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James,

The classical method is to use audio isolation transformers between the 
rig audio in/out and the soundcard, and opto-isolators on the serial 
port line(s) used  for the PTT switching (assuming you use serial port 
handshaking lines for this) so that there's no DC connection between 
radio "earth" and PC "earth".

I've got the audio transformers in my homemade interface, but no 
opto-isolators - so there's still some connection between radio and PCs 
(and I mean 3 radios and 2 PCs....) but still have no mains hum evident. 
Perhaps I'm just lucky?

Ferrites are good to keep RF out of places it's not wanted, but not sure 
what they'd do to keep 50Hz out.

John


James Cowburn wrote:
> Ferrite, Ferrite and more Ferrite then!
> 
> Any suggestions as to where best to place clip on cores?  
> 
> Mains lead? 
> Power lead from PSU (Icom PS55) to rig (IC735)?
> All leads from ZLP interface to laptop? (Dell D610) (I currently have
> ferrite clip ons on the microphone and speaker leads from ZLP to laptop)
> Dell Laptop PSU?
> 
> All the above??
> 
> With best regards
>  
>  
> Jim
>  
>  
> Dr. James Cowburn
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham
> Sent: 16 September 2009 21:59
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: Re: LF: Re: G7NKS multiple spots
> 
> JIm,
> 
> I think you  find that is  caused by 50 hz mains hum .... may be a hum loop 
> in the  audio system / pc-tx earthling , not likely to  be psu problem as 
> frequency is 50 (fund)  and 150 ( 3 rd harm)
> 
> I had a similar problem with my  valve HF set , that was a slight  ripple on
> 
> the PA  HT line caused by the  100% duty cycle of wspr, not part of the 
> design criteria for  ssb/cw , caused  spots to appear +/-  100  Hz due to 
> the  full wave  rectification in the  psu
> 
> G .
> 
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "James Moritz" <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 9:40 PM
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Subject: LF: Re: G7NKS multiple spots
> 
>> Dear Jim, LF Group,
>>
>>
>>> Me too.  I am getting 3 traces (!) from Jim M (he is 9+10 and audible!)
>>> and
>>> a biggish one from Gus too
>> I am seeing low-level (about -25dB) sidebands on your signal  at +/-50Hz 
>> and
>> +/-150Hz, which are giving rise to the extra spots.  I think something
>> similar is happening when you receive my signal. I am not getting similar
>> multiple spots from other nearby stations, nor am I seeing the same
>> sidebands on other strong signals, so I think they must originate in your
>> station somewhere - possibly audio being affected by mains noise, or some
>> sort of residual FM of an oscillator in your rig?
>>
>> Cheers, Jim Moritz
>> 73 de M0BMU
>>
>>
>>
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-- 
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Roger Lapthorn wrote:
> If you could SEE my TX,  "antenna" and ATU you would realise how amazed I am
> at this report from G3XVL. My antenna is literally 15m of low horizontal
> wire with about 2m of it vertical, a central heating ground and an ATU on
> the bedroom table made from a ferrite rod and fed with 700mW from a
> 2N3906/2N3904. This proves that 500kHz is possible with a
> *really*minimalist station. I can only imagine what will be possible
> with some
> effort on my part.


Roger!

Well done - it just shows what can be done with RF and a piece of wire....

Assuming your ERP to be around the ~mW level we might be in with a 
chance even up to Shetland, given some suitable conditions.

I've been doing some tests on 5MHz recently and have been receiving 
stations using TX powers in the milliwat, and sub-milliwatt, range.

I've received G4ZFQ using TX power of 0.3mW at a range of 1061km.

Obviously it's not fair to directly compare 5MHz and 500kHz - at least 
it shows what can be done with really low ERP.

Please leave the WSPR running overnight and let's see what turns up in 
the wee small hours.

Cheers,

John
GM4SLV




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On 16 Sep 2009 at 8:48, James Cowburn wrote:

> Dear LF
> 
> The past two days have been quite bad for signals I have noticed. 
> Normally I get lots of decodes from many stations and now I am only
> getting Gus. Also there is a lot of noise on the waterfall trace too.
> 
> Still hoping to catch Roger
> 
> With best regards
> 
> 
> Jim

Well the last two nights yourself and Gus have been the only two 
stations active apart from Roger. Last night you were a consistent
-17dB - for a while Gus was transmitting 100% and I was decoding you 
100% even though you were only 10Hz away. I also have high static QRN 
from mid evening onwards, but it didn't seem to affect copy - the one 
time when it seemed to have stopped I had accidentally managed to get 
WSPR7 into 'freeze' mode. And Roger, if you are only getting Jim at
 -30dB I guess there is some work to do on that antenna...

192200   4  -6  3.5    48  0  SM6BHZ JO57 30        
192400   9 -21  3.5    26  0  SM6BHZ JO57 30        
192600   8 -17  3.5    26  0  SM6BHZ JO57 30        
192800   8 -10  3.4    26  0  SM6BHZ JO57 30        
192800   9 -13  4.3    38 -1  G7NKS IO92 23         
193000   5 -11  3.4    27  0  SM6BHZ JO57 30        
193200   9 -12  3.5    26  0  SM6BHZ JO57 30        
194400   8   0  3.6    26  0  SM6BHZ JO57 30        
194600   8   0  3.6    27  0  SM6BHZ JO57 30        
194600   7 -17  4.2    42  0  G7NKS IO92 23         
195000  10  -1  3.6    27  1  SM6BHZ JO57 30        
200000  11   3  3.7    27  0  SM6BHZ JO57 30        
200600  11  -1  3.6    27  0  SM6BHZ JO57 30        
200600   7 -17  4.2    46 -1  G7NKS IO92 23         
201200   9  -8  3.4    25  0  SM6BHZ JO57 30        
201400   9  -5  3.4    26  0  SM6BHZ JO57 30        
201400   8 -17  3.7    40 -1  G7NKS IO92 23         
201600   8  -1  3.4    25  0  SM6BHZ JO57 30        
201800   8  -7  3.5    25  0  SM6BHZ JO57 30        
202000  14  -5  3.4    25  0  SM6BHZ JO57 30        

73 Dave G3YMC

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Roger,
I can beat that your reception report from Ipswich, Suffolk

2009-09-13 20:12  G3XBM  0.503922  -27  1  JO02dg  0.001  G3XVL  JO02nb  61
 112 well done,
Chris G3XVL



2009/9/13 Roger Lapthorn <rogerlapthorn@gmail.com>

> All of 3kms away (whoa DX!!) but I just got my first WSPR report on 500kHz:
>
>  2009-09-13 20:04  G3XBM   0.503908  -6  0  JO02dg  0.001   G6ALB  JO02dg
>  0  0   2009-09-13 20:02  G3XBM  0.503910  -12   -1  JO02dg  0.001  G6ALB
>  JO02dg  0  0
> At least the signal is getting across the fields at the back of the house.
> Andrew G6ALB is in the next village. You can see by my report that I have a
> LOT of work to do....
>
> 73s
> Roger G3XBM
> --
> -------------------------------------------------------------
> http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/
> http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
> G3XBM    GQRP 1678      ISWL G11088
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<td align=3D"right">=A01=A0</td><td align=3D"left">=A0JO02dg=A0</td><td al=
ign=3D"right">=A00.001=A0</td><td align=3D"left">=A0G3XVL=A0</td><td align=
=3D"left">=A0JO02nb=A0</td><td align=3D"right">=A061=A0</td><td align=3D"r=
ight">=A0112=A0</td></tr></tbody></table>
well done,<br>Chris G3XVL<br><br><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/9=
/13 Roger Lapthorn <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rogerlapthorn@g=
mail.com">rogerlapthorn@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class=3D"g=
mail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0p=
t 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
All of 3kms away (whoa DX!!) but I just got my first WSPR report on 500kHz=
:<br><br><table><tbody><tr><td align=3D"right"><font size=3D"2">=A02009-09=
-13 20:04=A0</font></td><td align=3D"left"><font size=3D"2">=A0G3XBM=A0</f=
ont></td><td align=3D"right">

<font size=3D"2">=A00.503908=A0</font></td><td align=3D"right"><font size=
=3D"2">=A0-6=A0</font></td><td align=3D"right"><font size=3D"2">=A00=A0</f=
ont></td><td align=3D"left"><font size=3D"2">=A0JO02dg=A0</font></td><td=
 align=3D"right"><font size=3D"2">=A00.001=A0</font></td>

<td align=3D"left"><font size=3D"2">=A0G6ALB=A0</font></td><td align=3D"le=
ft"><font size=3D"2">=A0JO02dg=A0</font></td><td align=3D"right"><font siz=
e=3D"2">=A00=A0</font></td><td align=3D"right"><font size=3D"2">=A00=A0</f=
ont></td></tr>
<tr><td align=3D"right"><font size=3D"2">=A02009-09-13 20:02=A0</font></td=
><td align=3D"left"><font size=3D"2">=A0G3XBM=A0</font></td><td align=3D"r=
ight"><font size=3D"2">=A00.503910=A0</font></td><td align=3D"right"><font=
 size=3D"2">=A0-12=A0</font></td>

<td align=3D"right"><font size=3D"2">=A0-1=A0</font></td><td align=3D"left=
"><font size=3D"2">=A0JO02dg=A0</font></td><td align=3D"right"><font size=
=3D"2">=A00.001=A0</font></td><td align=3D"left"><font size=3D"2">=A0G6ALB=
=A0</font></td><td align=3D"left">

<font size=3D"2">=A0JO02dg=A0</font></td><td align=3D"right"><font size=3D=
"2">=A00=A0</font></td><td align=3D"right"><font size=3D"2">=A00=A0</font>=
</td></tr></tbody></table><br clear=3D"all">At least the signal is getting=
 across the fields at the back of the house. Andrew G6ALB is in the next=
 village. You can see by my report that I have a LOT of work to do....<br>

<br>73s<br>Roger G3XBM<br><font color=3D"#888888">-- <br>-----------------=
--------------------------------------------<br><a href=3D"http://g3xbm-qr=
p.blogspot.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/</a><br><=
a href=3D"http://www.g3xbm.co.uk" target=3D"_blank">http://www.g3xbm.co.uk=
</a><br>

G3XBM =A0 =A0GQRP 1678 =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL G11088<br>
</font></blockquote></div><br>

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Hello LF!

1940   5  0.9   1.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
1946   7  0.8   1.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
1950 -24  1.2   1.503914  0 G4WGT IO83 27
1952   0  0.9   1.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
1958   7  0.9   1.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40

73!

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Hello LF!<br><br>1940&nbsp;&nbsp; 5&nbsp; 0.9&nbsp;&nbsp; 1.503925&nbsp; 0 SM6BHZ JO57 40<br>1946&nbsp;&nbsp; 7&nbsp; 0.8&nbsp;&nbsp; 1.503925&nbsp; 0 SM6BHZ JO57 40<br>1950 -24&nbsp; 1.2&nbsp;&nbsp; 1.503914&nbsp; 0 G4WGT IO83 27<br>1952&nbsp;&nbsp; 0&nbsp; 0.9&nbsp;&nbsp; 1.503925&nbsp; 0 SM6BHZ JO57 40<br>1958&nbsp;&nbsp; 7&nbsp; 0.9&nbsp;&nbsp; 1.503925&nbsp; 0 SM6BHZ JO57 40<br><br>73!<br><br>Lubos, OK2BVG<br><br /><hr />Sdílejte své zážitky s kýmkoli chcete <a href='http://www.microsoft.com/cze/windows/windowslive/products/photos-share.aspx?tab=1' target='_new'>s kýmkoli chcete.</a></body>
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Jim,

Emails  have  crossed in the system hi.

I note the reply , re USA  operating frequency's

The large gap in frequency made itself  apparent at the  time of my  first 
post , but with the  availability of  digital receivers, with the  ability 
to  capture quite  large spectrums, as can be  observed on for  example 
Gary's  grabber  page   http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html
perhaps the gap is not as problematic as might be of been in the past ?

A more conventional solution may be to  channel scan with the  rx , assuming 
the  rx may be  controlled by the pc ... how much of the wspr  signal do 
you  'actually need' to  decode, what happens if you  chop it.. room for 
experiment ?

G .




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>
> Sorry, pressed "send" too soon by accident!
>
> Dear Graham, LF Group,
>
>> As the  European allocation looks to  be  wider than the  Uk, are we
>> expecting the  UK 3 Khz  allocation to  remain as is, if  and when the
>> band is formalised ?, in which case loosing 200 hz may not be the  most
>> sensible option ...
>
> As I understand it, there are not yet any formal Europe-wide proposals, 
> just
> what individual regulators have allocated on a case-by-case basis. I think
> G, EI, and ON have all allocated 501 - 504. The DL beacons and OK0EMW are
> licenced to use spot frequencies around 505kHz. Gus SM6BHZ would be able 
> to
> use 504.0 - 504.1kHz.
>
> But the main thing is whether we over here should transmit around 504kHz 
> as
> we are now, or shift to near 501kHz to share a common WSPR segment with 
> the
> US. On one hand, keeping to near 504k would have the advantage of no 
> strong
> signals in band for those trying to receive US stations. But on the other
> hand, it might mean we get QRMed by "general comms" US stations for those
> trying to receive us, and anyone wanting to receive both US and EU 
> stations
> would need two receivers/soundcards, etc.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
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http://lwca.org/library/reference/LORAN/loran_lines.htm

VE7SL@shaw.ca wrote:
> Help! At one time there was a list of Loran lines visible within the 
> 2200m allocation but it seems to have vanished. Is there still a source 
> of this valuable info available somewhere on the web?
> 
> Steve
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Hi all
The 500KHz grabber at GM4ISM will be QRT after tomorrow night for about 7 
weeks, as I am out of the courtry and the server will be shut down. The WSPR 
RX will also be unavailable during this time.
Normal service will be resumed around mid November when I return from my 
holiday.
Regards
Mark ISM
www.dc2light.co.uk





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best:

2138   -19  0.7   0.503841  M0BMU IO91 33
2146     -1  0.8   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 40

73


> Hi Andrey,
> thank's report and info !
> 
> 73 de Gus SM6BHZ
> 
> www.sm6bhz.com
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Andrey rn3agc" <rn3agc@mail.ru>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 11:31 PM
> Subject: LF: WSPR SM6BHZ M0BMU
> 
> 
>> Hi Gus, Jim, LF,
>> 
>> 1920   -23  0.9   0.503926  SM6BHZ JO57 30
>> 1932   -16  1.0   0.503926  SM6BHZ JO57 30
>> 1938   -15  1.1   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 30
>> 1948   -10  0.9   0.503926  SM6BHZ JO57 40
>> 1958     -8  0.9   0.503926  SM6BHZ JO57 40
>> 2002   -26  0.8   0.503841  M0BMU IO91 33
>> 2004     -2  1.0   0.503926  SM6BHZ JO57 40
>> 2006   -27  0.6   0.503841  M0BMU IO91 33
>> 2014   -26  1.4   0.503841  M0BMU IO91 33
>> 2014   -14  0.8   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 40
>> 2018   -22  0.8   0.503841  M0BMU IO91 33
>> 2022     -6  1.0   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 40
>> 2028     -6  0.8   0.503926  SM6BHZ JO57 40
>> 2032   -21  0.8   0.503841  M0BMU IO91 33
>> 2032     -5  0.9   0.503926  SM6BHZ JO57 40
>> 2038     -8  1.0   0.503926  SM6BHZ JO57 40
>> 2046     -3  1.0   0.503926  SM6BHZ JO57 40
>> 2050   -29  0.8   0.503841  M0BMU IO91 33
>> 2052     -9  0.7   0.503926  SM6BHZ JO57 40
>> 2056   -30  0.6   0.503841  M0BMU IO91 33
>> 2056     -9  0.8   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 40
>> 2102   -24  0.5   0.503841  M0BMU IO91 33
>> 2102     -9  0.8   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 40
>> 2108   -21  0.6   0.503841  M0BMU IO91 33
>> 2110     -7  0.9   0.503926  SM6BHZ JO57 40
>> 2116   -20  0.6   0.503841  M0BMU IO91 33
>> 2116   -15  0.6   0.503926  SM6BHZ JO57 40
>> 2122   -24  2.1   0.503841  M0BMU IO91 33
>> 2124     -7  0.8   0.503926  SM6BHZ JO57 40
>> 
>> 73
>> Andrey
>>
> 
> 
>


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Hi Jim, LF!
I'v got some trace into my ARGO after 0430MSC LT on 503.5 kHz at=20
9sep2009!
looking my 500 part some later.

http://rw3adb.narod.ru/2009/9sep2009_M0BMU_WOLF/502.4_3_00020.jpg
http://rw3adb.narod.ru/2009/9sep2009_M0BMU_WOLF/502.4_3_00021.jpg
http://rw3adb.narod.ru/2009/9sep2009_M0BMU_WOLF/502.4_3_00026.jpg
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http://rw3adb.narod.ru/2009/9sep2009_M0BMU_WOLF/502.4_3_00034.jpg

Roman


* Roman RW3ADB <rw3adb@rambler.ru> [Wed, 09 Sep 2009 04:00:21 +0400]:
> =D1aprice of the prop on 500 today... (((
> I'v do not got any traces in Moscow today.
> WSPR is clear after 1h.
> Dial 502.4 and looking around 503.5 in argo up to sunrise.
> 73!
> Roman
>
>
> * Roman RW3ADB <rw3adb@rambler.ru> [Wed, 09 Sep 2009 02:50:56 +0400]:
> > Hi Jim, LF!
> > Inside my side band, but no WOLF prog- argo running now.
> > Roman
> >
> >
> > * James Moritz <james.moritz@btopenworld.com> [Tue, 8 Sep 2009
> 22:02:22
> > +0100]:
> > > Dear LF Group,
> > >
> > > I am now running a "standard" WOLF 10 mode beacon on 503.500kHz=20
for
> > the
> > > next
> > > few hours. Any reports would be very welcome. Information and
> software
> > > downloads can be found at
> > > http://freenet-homepage.de/dl4yhf/wolf/index.html.
> > > The beacon may shut down from time to time, because the signal=20
seems
> > to
> > > scramble my ADSL modem...
> > >
> > > Cheers, Jim Moritz
> > > 73 de M0BMU
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>



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Roman RW3ADB.

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I rx your signal, Jim!
http://rw3adb.narod.ru/2009/7sep2009_503.5kHz/MBU.jpg
Dial freq is incorrect, but the prog is decoded.

Roman

* James Moritz <james.moritz@btopenworld.com> [Sun, 6 Sep 2009 21:05:12 
+0100]:
> Dear LF Group,
>
> The M0BMU WSPR beacon is running again - I have jacked up the antenna 
to
> increase the ERP a bit. G4WGT and G7NKS are also active - any reports
> would
> be very welcome.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
>




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Dear LF,

My antenna is down for service, so i have only receiver mode for WSPR=
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73 de Gus SM6BHZ

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Hi Gus,

good copy with 49 in southern Germany JN68kj .
I've sent you a mp3 file.

73
Clemens
DL4RAJ
  ----- Original Message ----- 
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  Dear LF,

  this evening i test an SSB Beacon, QRG 508 kHz LSB.
  Reports are welcome.

  73 de Gus SM6BHZ
  www.sm6bhz.com




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  <DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4>this evening i test an SSB Beacon,=
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Dear LF Group,

The WSPR beacon shut down at 0740utc. Thanks for all the reports overnight.

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Had 12 lines of SM6BHZ copy last night between 0152 and 0420 from my 
home QTH in Massachusetts. No sign of other calls. The spots have been 
loaded to the MEPT database.

John, W1TAG (FN42ch)


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Hi LF,

a number of decodes in SE this night.

1848 -26  0.9   0.503911  0 G4WGT IO83 27
1852 -18  1.1   0.503910  0 G4WGT IO83 27
1900 -20  0.3   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
1912 -24  0.4   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
1922 -15  0.3   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
1926 -16  0.3   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
1926 -20  1.2   0.503910  0 G4WGT IO83 27
1930 -14  0.2   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
1930 -18  1.2   0.503910  0 G4WGT IO83 27
1934 -17  1.2   0.503910  0 G4WGT IO83 27
1936 -16  0.5   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
1948 -19  1.2   0.503910  0 G4WGT IO83 27
1958 -11  0.9   0.503910  0 G4WGT IO83 27
2000 -19  0.3   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
2004 -17  1.0   0.503910  0 G4WGT IO83 27
2006 -20  0.3   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
2012 -24  0.3   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
2020 -11  1.4   0.503887  0 G0NBD IO83 23
2024 -11  1.2   0.503887  0 G0NBD IO83 23
2026 -20  0.1   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
2030 -18  0.2   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
2032 -11  1.6   0.503887  0 G0NBD IO83 23
2036 -25  0.1   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
2036 -15  1.3   0.503887  0 G0NBD IO83 23
2038 -26  1.2   0.503910  0 G4WGT IO83 27
2044 -14  1.6   0.503887  0 G0NBD IO83 23
2046 -22  0.1   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
2046 -25  0.8   0.503910  0 G4WGT IO83 27
2052 -22  0.1   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
2052 -13  1.3   0.503887  0 G0NBD IO83 23
2104 -14  1.0   0.503910  0 G4WGT IO83 27
2106 -20  0.1   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
2110 -15  0.9   0.503910  0 G4WGT IO83 27
2112 -20  1.5   0.503887  0 G0NBD IO83 23
2116 -21  0.6   0.503910  0 G4WGT IO83 27
2118 -20  1.3   0.503887  0 G0NBD IO83 23
2126 -21  0.0   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
2130 -23  0.0   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
2130 -16  0.9   0.503910  0 G4WGT IO83 27
2134 -23  0.2   0.503946  0 M0LMH IO93 20
2136 -20  0.0   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
2144 -15  1.4   0.503887  0 G0NBD IO83 23
2144 -22  0.2   0.503941  0 M0LMH IO93 20
2146 -18 -0.1   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
2146 -23  0.6   0.503910  0 G4WGT IO83 27
2150 -20  0.6   0.503910  0 G4WGT IO83 27
2154 -21  0.6   0.503910  0 G4WGT IO83 27
2206 -15 -0.2   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
2206 -20  0.5   0.503910  0 G4WGT IO83 27
2214 -18  0.6   0.503910  0 G4WGT IO83 27
2218 -19  1.4   0.503887  0 G0NBD IO83 23
2222 -23  0.5   0.503910  0 G4WGT IO83 27
2224 -14  1.0   0.503887  0 G0NBD IO83 23
2226 -17  0.0   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
2226 -21 -0.1   0.503949  0 M0LMH IO93 20
2230 -22  0.0   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
2230 -16  1.0   0.503887  0 G0NBD IO83 23
2234 -14  1.0   0.503887  0 G0NBD IO83 23
2234 -24  0.4   0.503910  0 G4WGT IO83 27
2234 -16  0.0   0.503950  0 M0LMH IO93 20
2236 -26 -0.1   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
2242 -19  0.0   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
2242 -17  1.2   0.503887  0 G0NBD IO83 23
2244 -17  0.6   0.503910  0 G4WGT IO83 27
2248 -16  0.5   0.503910  0 G4WGT IO83 27
2252 -19  0.0   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
2252 -20  0.0   0.503949  0 M0LMH IO93 27
2254 -13  1.4   0.503887  0 G0NBD IO83 23
2254 -18  0.6   0.503910  0 G4WGT IO83 27
2300 -17  0.9   0.503887  0 G0NBD IO83 23
2306 -22 -0.1   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
2306 -19  0.6   0.503910  0 G4WGT IO83 27
2308 -19  1.0   0.503887  0 G0NBD IO83 23
2308 -20  0.2   0.503950  0 M0LMH IO93 20
2314 -15  0.7   0.503910  0 G4WGT IO83 27
2316 -18  1.2   0.503887  0 G0NBD IO83 23
2318 -24  0.0   0.503950  0 M0LMH IO93 20
2322 -18  0.0   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
2324 -16  1.4   0.503887  0 G0NBD IO83 23
2324 -24  0.7   0.503910  0 G4WGT IO83 27
2330 -22  0.0   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
2334 -24  0.0   0.503949  0 M0LMH IO93 20
2336 -24  0.0   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
2336 -19  0.6   0.503910  0 G4WGT IO83 27
2336 -18  0.0   0.503949  0 M0LMH IO93 20
2338 -18 -0.2   0.503949  0 M0LMH IO93 20
2342 -18  0.1   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
2352 -18  0.1   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
0000 -23  0.1   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
0006 -15  0.0   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
0012 -17  0.0   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
0012 -12  1.1   0.503887  0 G0NBD IO83 23
0020 -15  1.7   0.503887  0 G0NBD IO83 23
0024 -13  1.8   0.503887  0 G0NBD IO83 23
0026 -19  0.1   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
0028  -9  1.4   0.503887  0 G0NBD IO83 23
0032 -10  1.5   0.503887  0 G0NBD IO83 23
0036 -26  0.1   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
0102 -16 -0.3   0.503951 -1 M0LMH IO93 20
0106 -16  0.0   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
0112 -19  0.3   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
0122 -19  0.2   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
0124 -14 -0.4   0.503950 -1 M0LMH IO93 20
0130 -13  0.1   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
0130 -22 -0.3   0.503950 -1 M0LMH IO93 20
0136 -18  0.1   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
0138 -18 -0.1   0.503951 -1 M0LMH IO93 20
0144 -16 -0.3   0.503951  0 M0LMH IO93 20
0146 -24  0.2   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
0152 -24  0.3   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
0152 -19 -0.5   0.503951 -1 M0LMH IO93 20
0156 -22 -0.4   0.503950  0 M0LMH IO93 20
0200 -21  0.2   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
0202 -19 -0.2   0.503951 -1 M0LMH IO93 20
0208 -21 -0.4   0.503951  0 M0LMH IO93 20
0212 -23  0.2   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
0216 -14 -0.5   0.503951  0 M0LMH IO93 20
0222 -18  0.4   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
0226 -17  0.3   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
0230 -16  0.3   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
0242 -17  0.4   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
0246 -16  0.3   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
0252 -15  0.3   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
0300 -17  0.3   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
0306 -19  0.2   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
0308 -22 -0.5   0.503951  0 M0LMH IO93 20
0312 -26  0.2   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
0322 -22  0.3   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
0326 -19  0.3   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
0326 -25 -0.5   0.503951  0 M0LMH IO93 20
0330 -15  0.2   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
0334 -23 -0.6   0.503951  0 M0LMH IO93 20
0346 -20  0.1   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
0352 -27  0.0   0.503850 -1 G4JNT IO90 23
0400 -22  0.0   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
0400 -20 -0.9   0.503950  0 M0LMH IO93 20
0406 -22  0.1   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
0406 -24 -0.8   0.503951  0 M0LMH IO93 20
0412 -22  0.2   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
0412 -16 -0.9   0.503951 -1 M0LMH IO93 20
0422 -20  0.2   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
0430 -27  0.1   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23

73 de Gus

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<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4>Hi LF,</FONT></EM></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4></FONT></EM></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4>a number of decodes in SE this=20
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<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4>1848 -26&nbsp; 0.9&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.50391=
1&nbsp; 0=20
G4WGT IO83 27<BR>1852 -18&nbsp; 1.1&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503910&nbsp; 0 G4WGT=
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27<BR>1900 -20&nbsp; 0.3&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503850&nbsp; 0 G4JNT IO90 23<BR=
>1912=20
-24&nbsp; 0.4&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503850&nbsp; 0 G4JNT IO90 23<BR>1922 -15&n=
bsp;=20
0.3&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503850&nbsp; 0 G4JNT IO90 23<BR>1926 -16&nbsp; 0.3&n=
bsp;&nbsp;=20
0.503850&nbsp; 0 G4JNT IO90 23<BR>1926 -20&nbsp; 1.2&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503=
910&nbsp;=20
0 G4WGT IO83 27<BR>1930 -14&nbsp; 0.2&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503850&nbsp; 0 G4J=
NT IO90=20
23<BR>1930 -18&nbsp; 1.2&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503910&nbsp; 0 G4WGT IO83 27<BR=
>1934=20
-17&nbsp; 1.2&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503910&nbsp; 0 G4WGT IO83 27<BR>1936 -16&n=
bsp;=20
0.5&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503850&nbsp; 0 G4JNT IO90 23<BR>1948 -19&nbsp; 1.2&n=
bsp;&nbsp;=20
0.503910&nbsp; 0 G4WGT IO83 27<BR>1958 -11&nbsp; 0.9&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503=
910&nbsp;=20
0 G4WGT IO83 27<BR>2000 -19&nbsp; 0.3&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503850&nbsp; 0 G4J=
NT IO90=20
23<BR>2004 -17&nbsp; 1.0&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503910&nbsp; 0 G4WGT IO83 27<BR=
>2006=20
-20&nbsp; 0.3&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503850&nbsp; 0 G4JNT IO90 23<BR>2012 -24&n=
bsp;=20
0.3&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503850&nbsp; 0 G4JNT IO90 23<BR>2020 -11&nbsp; 1.4&n=
bsp;&nbsp;=20
0.503887&nbsp; 0 G0NBD IO83 23<BR>2024 -11&nbsp; 1.2&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503=
887&nbsp;=20
0 G0NBD IO83 23<BR>2026 -20&nbsp; 0.1&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503850&nbsp; 0 G4J=
NT IO90=20
23<BR>2030 -18&nbsp; 0.2&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503850&nbsp; 0 G4JNT IO90 23<BR=
>2032=20
-11&nbsp; 1.6&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503887&nbsp; 0 G0NBD IO83 23<BR>2036 -25&n=
bsp;=20
0.1&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503850&nbsp; 0 G4JNT IO90 23<BR>2036 -15&nbsp; 1.3&n=
bsp;&nbsp;=20
0.503887&nbsp; 0 G0NBD IO83 23<BR>2038 -26&nbsp; 1.2&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503=
910&nbsp;=20
0 G4WGT IO83 27<BR>2044 -14&nbsp; 1.6&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503887&nbsp; 0 G0N=
BD IO83=20
23<BR>2046 -22&nbsp; 0.1&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503850&nbsp; 0 G4JNT IO90 23<BR=
>2046=20
-25&nbsp; 0.8&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503910&nbsp; 0 G4WGT IO83 27<BR>2052 -22&n=
bsp;=20
0.1&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503850&nbsp; 0 G4JNT IO90 23<BR>2052 -13&nbsp; 1.3&n=
bsp;&nbsp;=20
0.503887&nbsp; 0 G0NBD IO83 23<BR>2104 -14&nbsp; 1.0&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503=
910&nbsp;=20
0 G4WGT IO83 27<BR>2106 -20&nbsp; 0.1&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503850&nbsp; 0 G4J=
NT IO90=20
23<BR>2110 -15&nbsp; 0.9&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503910&nbsp; 0 G4WGT IO83 27<BR=
>2112=20
-20&nbsp; 1.5&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503887&nbsp; 0 G0NBD IO83 23<BR>2116 -21&n=
bsp;=20
0.6&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503910&nbsp; 0 G4WGT IO83 27<BR>2118 -20&nbsp; 1.3&n=
bsp;&nbsp;=20
0.503887&nbsp; 0 G0NBD IO83 23<BR>2126 -21&nbsp; 0.0&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503=
850&nbsp;=20
0 G4JNT IO90 23<BR>2130 -23&nbsp; 0.0&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503850&nbsp; 0 G4J=
NT IO90=20
23<BR>2130 -16&nbsp; 0.9&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503910&nbsp; 0 G4WGT IO83 27<BR=
>2134=20
-23&nbsp; 0.2&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503946&nbsp; 0 M0LMH IO93 20<BR>2136 -20&n=
bsp;=20
0.0&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503850&nbsp; 0 G4JNT IO90 23<BR>2144 -15&nbsp; 1.4&n=
bsp;&nbsp;=20
0.503887&nbsp; 0 G0NBD IO83 23<BR>2144 -22&nbsp; 0.2&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503=
941&nbsp;=20
0 M0LMH IO93 20<BR>2146 -18 -0.1&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503850&nbsp; 0 G4JNT IO=
90=20
23<BR>2146 -23&nbsp; 0.6&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503910&nbsp; 0 G4WGT IO83 27<BR=
>2150=20
-20&nbsp; 0.6&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503910&nbsp; 0 G4WGT IO83 27<BR>2154 -21&n=
bsp;=20
0.6&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503910&nbsp; 0 G4WGT IO83 27<BR>2206 -15 -0.2&nbsp;&=
nbsp;=20
0.503850&nbsp; 0 G4JNT IO90 23<BR>2206 -20&nbsp; 0.5&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503=
910&nbsp;=20
0 G4WGT IO83 27<BR>2214 -18&nbsp; 0.6&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503910&nbsp; 0 G4W=
GT IO83=20
27<BR>2218 -19&nbsp; 1.4&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503887&nbsp; 0 G0NBD IO83 23<BR=
>2222=20
-23&nbsp; 0.5&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503910&nbsp; 0 G4WGT IO83 27<BR>2224 -14&n=
bsp;=20
1.0&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503887&nbsp; 0 G0NBD IO83 23<BR>2226 -17&nbsp; 0.0&n=
bsp;&nbsp;=20
0.503850&nbsp; 0 G4JNT IO90 23<BR>2226 -21 -0.1&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503949&n=
bsp; 0=20
M0LMH IO93 20<BR>2230 -22&nbsp; 0.0&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503850&nbsp; 0 G4JNT=
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23<BR>2230 -16&nbsp; 1.0&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503887&nbsp; 0 G0NBD IO83 23<BR=
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-14&nbsp; 1.0&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503887&nbsp; 0 G0NBD IO83 23<BR>2234 -24&n=
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0.4&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503910&nbsp; 0 G4WGT IO83 27<BR>2234 -16&nbsp; 0.0&n=
bsp;&nbsp;=20
0.503950&nbsp; 0 M0LMH IO93 20<BR>2236 -26 -0.1&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503850&n=
bsp; 0=20
G4JNT IO90 23<BR>2242 -19&nbsp; 0.0&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503850&nbsp; 0 G4JNT=
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23<BR>2242 -17&nbsp; 1.2&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503887&nbsp; 0 G0NBD IO83 23<BR=
>2244=20
-17&nbsp; 0.6&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503910&nbsp; 0 G4WGT IO83 27<BR>2248 -16&n=
bsp;=20
0.5&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503910&nbsp; 0 G4WGT IO83 27<BR>2252 -19&nbsp; 0.0&n=
bsp;&nbsp;=20
0.503850&nbsp; 0 G4JNT IO90 23<BR>2252 -20&nbsp; 0.0&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503=
949&nbsp;=20
0 M0LMH IO93 27<BR>2254 -13&nbsp; 1.4&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503887&nbsp; 0 G0N=
BD IO83=20
23<BR>2254 -18&nbsp; 0.6&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503910&nbsp; 0 G4WGT IO83 27<BR=
>2300=20
-17&nbsp; 0.9&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503887&nbsp; 0 G0NBD IO83 23<BR>2306 -22=
=20
-0.1&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503850&nbsp; 0 G4JNT IO90 23<BR>2306 -19&nbsp;=20
0.6&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503910&nbsp; 0 G4WGT IO83 27<BR>2308 -19&nbsp; 1.0&n=
bsp;&nbsp;=20
0.503887&nbsp; 0 G0NBD IO83 23<BR>2308 -20&nbsp; 0.2&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503=
950&nbsp;=20
0 M0LMH IO93 20<BR>2314 -15&nbsp; 0.7&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503910&nbsp; 0 G4W=
GT IO83=20
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=20
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<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4></FONT></EM></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4>73 de Gus</FONT></EM></STRONG></DIV>
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James, LF,

Another successful decode this morning, the only one from you, but at 
least you made it once!

090911 0410   4 -27  1.1   0.503953  G7NKS IO92 10

Cheers!

John
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Hi Jim,Gus and Gary,

 2009-09-05 21:58  G4WGT  0.503910  -25  0  IO83qo  0.5  DL4RAJ  JN68kj  1226  112 
 2009-09-05 21:58  M0BMU  0.503975  -11  0  IO91vr  2  DL4RAJ  JN68kj  1003  107 
 2009-09-05 21:56  SM6BHZ  0.503950  -13  0  JO57wq  1  DL4RAJ  JN68kj  1035  176 
 2009-09-05 21:52  SM6BHZ  0.503951  -5  0  JO57wq  1  DL4RAJ  JN68kj  1035  176 
 2009-09-05 21:52  M0BMU  0.503975  -17  0  IO91vr  2  DL4RAJ  JN68kj  1003  107 
 2009-09-05 21:48  SM6BHZ  0.503950  -6  0  JO57wq  1  DL4RAJ  JN68kj  1035  176 
 2009-09-05 21:46  M0BMU  0.503975  -12  0  IO91vr  2  DL4RAJ  JN68kj  1003  107 
 2009-09-05 21:44  SM6BHZ  0.503950  -5  0  JO57wq  1  DL4RAJ  JN68kj  1035  176 

Unfortunately my wspr sw has also uploaded two spots from 500kHz to the 160m section
of the database due to an 'operator error' before I could stop it.
Going to bed now and cl.

73
Clemens
DL4RAJ




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Subject: LF: Re: wspr


> Dear LF Group,
> 
> The WSPR beacon is now running again on 503.975kHz (502.4kHz "dial 
> frequency"). Any reports would be very welcome.
> 
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU 
>




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Andy,

As the  502.4 dial frequency looks to  be  accepted , with other stati=
ons moving in to  the  capture area when running  wspr and as it would=
 seem, AA1A is monitoring this dial setting  a frequency in the lower=
  part of the wspr section would  ensue a clear frequency, activity lo=
oks to  be  centred in the  higher portion of the  band ?=20

These look to be the  first wspr spots , of which I assume to be the=
  'first established permanent wspr  beacon' ?

      2009-09-19 12:06   G4JNT   0.503855   -9   0   IO90iv   0.2   G3=
XVL   JO02nb   212   51 =20
       2009-09-19 12:06   G4JNT   0.503850   -23   0   IO90iv   0.2 =
  M0LMH   IO93gx   343   358 =20
       2009-09-19 12:06   G4JNT   0.503850   -1   0   IO90iv   0.2  =
 M0BMU   IO91vr   119   39 =20


Power wise , during daylight , your ground wave looks to  be  simply=
 a function of  power , at  -23  at 343 k with 100 watts ? , you  coul=
d reduce by  10dB to  10 watts and still provide ground wave data ? ,=
 in tests last  year  with  Rick ON7T , carrier levels below 1 watt st=
ill decoded at  range.=20

I will up date the beacon page on uk500khz to  include the  new mode=
=20

73 - G .=20




From: Andy Talbot=20
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2009 12:06 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Subject: LF: 'JNT Dual purpose beacons


I'm in the last stages of modifying my beacon to include a WSPR transm=
ission that will run pseudo-simultaneously with the 15 minute regular=
 one at 503.7kHz

It has turned out to be posible to fit all the code into one controlle=
r PIC which simplifies the hardware considerably - the only downside=
 is that the PSK31 message length has had to be shortened by a few cha=
racters to be able to get the additional WSPR symbol and frequency inf=
ormation into the EEPROM area of the PIC.

I've included to option to be able to transmit the WSPR signal at a lo=
wer amplitude than the 15 minute beacon, and the pseudo random timing=
 is anything but - it has been chosen to fit round the 15 minute inter=
vals, and preferably not adjacent to them. =20

Before I programme-up the actual beacon Tx, can I have some suggestion=
 on the frequency that would be best to avoid existing users, and what=
 sort of power to adopt, bearing in mind the main Tx runs at about 100=
 Watts of RF giving somewhere in the region of 24dBm ERP.  Also some=
 idea of a duty cycle to use - 50% is the maximum I've allowed for.

Andy
www.g4jnt.com

this email has been scanned for political correctness by the nanny sta=
te



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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Andy,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>As the&nbsp; 502.4 dial frequency loo=
ks to&nbsp;=20
be&nbsp; accepted , with other&nbsp;stations moving in to&nbsp; the&nb=
sp;=20
capture area when running&nbsp; wspr and as it would seem,&nbsp;AA1A=
 is=20
monitoring this dial setting&nbsp;&nbsp;a frequency in the lower&nbsp;=
 part of=20
the wspr section would&nbsp; ensue a clear frequency, activity looks=
 to&nbsp;=20
be&nbsp; centred in the&nbsp; higher portion of the&nbsp; band ? </FON=
T></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>These look to be the&nbsp; first wspr=
 spots , of=20
which I assume to be the&nbsp; 'first established permanent wspr&nbsp;=
 beacon'=20
?</FONT></DIV>
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    <TD align=3Dright>2009-09-19 12:06&nbsp;</TD>
    <TD align=3Dleft>&nbsp;G4JNT&nbsp;</TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>&nbsp;0.503855&nbsp;</TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>&nbsp;-9&nbsp;</TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>&nbsp;0&nbsp;</TD>
    <TD align=3Dleft>&nbsp;IO90iv&nbsp;</TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>&nbsp;0.2&nbsp;</TD>
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    <TD align=3Dleft>&nbsp;JO02nb&nbsp;</TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>&nbsp;212&nbsp;</TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>&nbsp;51&nbsp;</TD></TR>
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    <TD align=3Dright>&nbsp;2009-09-19 12:06&nbsp;</TD>
    <TD align=3Dleft>&nbsp;G4JNT&nbsp;</TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>&nbsp;0.503850&nbsp;</TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>&nbsp;-23&nbsp;</TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>&nbsp;0&nbsp;</TD>
    <TD align=3Dleft>&nbsp;IO90iv&nbsp;</TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>&nbsp;0.2&nbsp;</TD>
    <TD align=3Dleft>&nbsp;M0LMH&nbsp;</TD>
    <TD align=3Dleft>&nbsp;IO93gx&nbsp;</TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>&nbsp;343&nbsp;</TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>&nbsp;358&nbsp;</TD></TR>
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    <TD align=3Dright>&nbsp;2009-09-19 12:06&nbsp;</TD>
    <TD align=3Dleft>&nbsp;G4JNT&nbsp;</TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>&nbsp;0.503850&nbsp;</TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>&nbsp;-1&nbsp;</TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>&nbsp;0&nbsp;</TD>
    <TD align=3Dleft>&nbsp;IO90iv&nbsp;</TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>&nbsp;0.2&nbsp;</TD>
    <TD align=3Dleft>&nbsp;M0BMU&nbsp;</TD>
    <TD align=3Dleft>&nbsp;IO91vr&nbsp;</TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>&nbsp;119&nbsp;</TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>&nbsp;39&nbsp;</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Power wise , during daylight , your=
 ground wave=20
looks to&nbsp; be&nbsp; simply a function of&nbsp; power , at&nbsp; -2=
3&nbsp; at=20
343 k with 100 watts ? , you&nbsp; could reduce by&nbsp; 10dB to&nbsp;=
 10 watts=20
and still provide ground wave data ? , in tests last&nbsp; year&nbsp;=
 with&nbsp;=20
Rick ON7T , carrier levels below 1 watt still decoded at&nbsp; range.=
=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>I will up date the beacon page on uk5=
00khz to&nbsp;=20
include the&nbsp; new mode </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>73 - G . </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=3Dandy.g4jnt@go=
oglemail.com   href=3D"mailto:andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com">Andy Talbot</=
A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, September 19, 2009 12:06 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org   href=3D"mail=
to:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> LF: 'JNT Dual purpose beacons</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>I'm in the&nbsp;last stages of modifying&nbsp;my beacon&nbsp;to=
 include a=20
WSPR transmission that will run&nbsp;pseudo-simultaneously&nbsp;with=
 the 15=20
minute regular one at 503.7kHz</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>It has turned out to&nbsp;be posible to fit all the code into one=
=20
controller PIC which simplifies the hardware considerably - the only=
 downside is=20
that the PSK31 message length has had to be shortened by a few charact=
ers to be=20
able to get the additional WSPR symbol and frequency information into=
 the EEPROM=20
area of the PIC.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>I've included to option to be able to transmit the WSPR signal at=
 a lower=20
amplitude than the 15 minute beacon, and the pseudo random timing is=
 anything=20
but - it has&nbsp;been chosen to fit round the 15 minute intervals, an=
d=20
preferably not&nbsp;adjacent to them.&nbsp;&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Before I programme-up the actual beacon Tx, can I have some sugge=
stion on=20
the frequency that would be best to avoid existing users, and what sor=
t of power=20
to adopt,&nbsp;bearing in mind the main Tx&nbsp;runs at&nbsp;about 100=
 Watts of=20
RF giving somewhere in the region of 24dBm ERP.&nbsp; Also&nbsp;some=
 idea of a=20
duty cycle to use - 50% is the maximum I've allowed for.</DIV>
<DIV><BR clear=3Dall>Andy<BR><A   href=3D"http://www.g4jnt.com">www.g4=
jnt.com</A><BR><BR>this email has been scanned=20
for political correctness by the nanny state<BR></DIV>
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Hello Gus!
The signal is still good, when you changed a power to 1W.

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Hello Gus!<br>The signal is still good, when you changed a power to 1W.<br=
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Thank you Marco for the fb QSO this morning. Good signal from Torino
trespassing the alps. Station here: RX Icom IC756 Pro III as receiver,
home made TX with class D PA with 4X IRFP250 and abt. 600W. Could
deliver 1.2kW at full pwr. Antenna: 55m long inverted L, only 12m
above ground, which I also use for 160-30m. Coil: autotransformer
3.5mH with variometer. Ground system: all iron fences in the
neighborhood, hi. 73 and hope to meet you again. Toni, HB9ASB JN36NU

2009/9/27, Scholz, Marco <marco.scholz@citi.com>:
> Hello Anton,
> I copied your CQ (starting at 8:09UTC) in QRSS3 this morning very good in
> JN49.
>
> Vy73
> Marco
> DD7PC
>


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Hi Jim, LF!
Inside my side band, but no WOLF prog- argo running now.
Roman


* James Moritz <james.moritz@btopenworld.com> [Tue, 8 Sep 2009 22:02:22 
+0100]:
> Dear LF Group,
>
> I am now running a "standard" WOLF 10 mode beacon on 503.500kHz for 
the
> next
> few hours. Any reports would be very welcome. Information and software
> downloads can be found at
> http://freenet-homepage.de/dl4yhf/wolf/index.html.
> The beacon may shut down from time to time, because the signal seems 
to
> scramble my ADSL modem...
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
>




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Maybe u like FICTION I like FACTS
g3kev
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> >the same old repetive rubbish.
>>g3kev
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> very respectfull Mal
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Dear LF Group,

So, as far as trans-atlantic band-plans are concerned: It appears that there 
isn't actually a common frequency range that all stations on both sides of 
the Atlantic could use for WSPR beacons or anything else, so the shared WSPR 
segment is really a non-starter. There is nothing actually preventing use of 
the 501.0 - 501.2kHz range in cooperation with WD2XSH stations should they 
wish to, but there does not seem to be any great advantage to using this 
frequency from the point of view of other US stations, for whom 
split-frequency working would be a necessity in any mode.  Since the UK 
allocations are currently experimental, and the long-term form of the band 
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Cheers, Jim Moritz
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Hello group!    

Just saw F8BOJ 20db over noise in JN88hl.
I can't get back to him because I haven't got at TX yet.
I completed my antenna yesterday.
I is about 80m of wire in avg. 10m above ground (600pf) and a 2,2mH
coil. RX is TS440S with selective Preamp.

Cheers and 73

OE3GHB
Gerhard




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roman
u are now 599 tnx report on 7033
mal g3kev


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>
>
>> Excellent propagartion world wide on 7Mcs tonite but so far nothing
> exciting on LF/MF
>
> Not so excellent, Mal. You are do not copy me on 40 now. -)
>
>> Mal/g3kev
>
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>
> --
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At 1455z.

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 A very poor drifting qrs signal on LF totally unstable
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At 10:59 AM 9/11/2009, Jay wrote:
>WE2XGR/2 will transmit in WOLF mode tonight from 2230 - 0330Z on 
>508.5 kHz. Local sunset is 2300Z. Reports are always appreciated.

Below are two decodings from the *same* recording.  Radio tuned to 
508.600 Khz for nominal 799.988 Hz audio output,
so Jay is at 699.988 and John is at 899.988 Hz (200 Hz 
higher).  Recording started at 23:25:00 utc.  I'll post spectral 
display shortly.  Conditions tonight excellent.  Antenna: 2 
orthogonal loops, each 100' circumference, phased to favor signals 
from the southeast of here.

using wolf -r 8200.389 -f 699.988 -t 0.2  file: RAW1
WOLF version 0.51
t:  24 f: 0.002 a:-1.4 dp:121.1 ci: 1 cj: 56 WE2XGR/2 FN31IS -
t:  48 f: 0.001 a:-1.3 dp:121.2 ci: 1 cj: 56 WE2XGR/2 FN31IS -
t:  96 f: 0.001 a:-1.3 dp:121.1 ci: 1 cj: 56 WE2XGR/2 FN31IS -
t: 192 f: 0.000 pm:4095 jm:847               WE2XGR/2 FN31IS -
t: 288 f: 0.000 pm:8190 jm:847               WE2XGR/2 FN31IS -
t: 384 f: 0.000 pm:12285 jm:847               WE2XGR/2 FN31IS -
t: 480 f: 0.000 pm:16380 jm:847               WE2XGR/2 FN31IS -
t: 576 f: 0.000 pm:20475 jm:847               WE2XGR/2 FN31IS -
t: 672 f: 0.000 pm:24570 jm:847               WE2XGR/2 FN31IS -
t: 768 f: 0.000 pm:28665 jm:847               WE2XGR/2 FN31IS -
t: 864 f: 0.000 pm:32760 jm:847               WE2XGR/2 FN31IS -
t: 960 f: 0.000 pm:36855 jm:847               WE2XGR/2 FN31IS -
t:1056 f: 0.000 pm:40950 jm:847               WE2XGR/2 FN31IS -
t:1152 f: 0.000 pm:45045 jm:847               WE2XGR/2 FN31IS -
t:1248 f: 0.000 pm:49140 jm:847               WE2XGR/2 FN31IS -
t:1344 f: 0.000 pm:53235 jm:847               WE2XGR/2 FN31IS -
t:1440 f: 0.000 pm:57330 jm:847               WE2XGR/2 FN31IS -
t:1536 f: 0.000 pm:61425 jm:847               WE2XGR/2 FN31IS -
t:1632 f: 0.000 pm:65520 jm:847               WE2XGR/2 FN31IS -

And same recording,
using wolf -r 8200.398 -f 899.988 -t 0.2
WOLF version 0.51
t:  24 f:-0.021 a: 0.3 dp: 81.8 ci: 4 cj:359 OR*BY7T4FYDH28M ?
t:  48 f:-0.001 a: 1.0 dp: 84.6 ci: 4 cj:359 OH4HL4*WMW*QJ 4 ?
t:  96 f: 0.001 a: 0.7 dp: 85.5 ci: 0 cj:280 MM*5UVUNBVODB2C ?
t: 192 f:-0.010 pm:  44 jm:242               WE2XGR/3 FN42CH -
t: 288 f:-0.010 pm: 472 jm:242               WE2XGR/3 FN42CH -
t: 384 f:-0.010 pm: 996 jm:242               WE2XGR/3 FN42CH -
t: 480 f:-0.010 pm:3285 jm:242               WE2XGR/3 FN42CH -
t: 576 f:-0.010 pm:5086 jm:242               WE2XGR/3 FN42CH -
t: 672 f:-0.010 pm:7120 jm:242               WE2XGR/3 FN42CH -
t: 768 f:-0.010 pm:7980 jm:242               WE2XGR/3 FN42CH -
t: 864 f:-0.010 pm:9091 jm:242               WE2XGR/3 FN42CH -
t: 960 f:-0.010 pm:13186 jm:242               WE2XGR/3 FN42CH -
t:1056 f:-0.010 pm:17281 jm:242               WE2XGR/3 FN42CH -
t:1152 f:-0.010 pm:19755 jm:242               WE2XGR/3 FN42CH -
t:1248 f:-0.010 pm:20891 jm:242               WE2XGR/3 FN42CH -
t:1344 f:-0.010 pm:21935 jm:242               WE2XGR/3 FN42CH -
t:1440 f:-0.010 pm:22946 jm:242               WE2XGR/3 FN42CH -
t:1536 f:-0.010 pm:25725 jm:242               WE2XGR/3 FN42CH -
t:1632 f:-0.010 pm:27859 jm:242               WE2XGR/3 FN42CH -

Note: started recording at 23:25:00 - that was 5 minutes before John was
supposed to start transmitting - but he may have been in there earlier?

73,
Bill VE2IQ



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This afternoon I fired up my 700mW 500kHz WSPR beacon and wet string (ERP
microwatts) and got 3 reports from G3XVL at 61kms.

So, I tried putting a 6dB then a 10dB attenuator between the PA and the ATU.
Even with the power from the PA of just 70mW (never mind what that would be
as ERP from the antenna) he still gave me a -25dB S/N report! These were the
three reports in reverse ordder:

 2009-09-14 14:42  G3XBM  0.503829  -25  1  JO02dg  0.001  G3XVL  JO02nb
 61  112   2009-09-14 14:40  G3XBM  0.503827  -23  1  JO02dg  0.001  G3XVL
 JO02nb  61  112   2009-09-14 14:36  G3XBM  0.503823  -18  1  JO02dg  0.001
 G3XVL  JO02nb  61  112
73s
Roger
G3XBM

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This afternoon I fired up my 700mW 500kHz WSPR beacon and wet string (ERP=
 microwatts) and got 3 reports from G3XVL at 61kms. <br><br>So, I tried pu=
tting a 6dB then a 10dB attenuator between the PA and the ATU. Even with=
 the power from the PA of just 70mW (never mind what that would be as ERP=
 from the antenna) he still gave me a -25dB S/N report! These were the thr=
ee reports in reverse ordder:<br>
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<td align=3D"right"><font size=3D"2">=A01=A0</font></td><td align=3D"left"=
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<td align=3D"right"><font size=3D"2">=A061=A0</font></td><td align=3D"righ=
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<td align=3D"right"><font size=3D"2">=A01=A0</font></td><td align=3D"left"=
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t"><font size=3D"2">=A0112=A0</font></td></tr>
<tr><td align=3D"right"><font size=3D"2">=A02009-09-14 14:36=A0</font></td=
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Reception in EM75xr ( Friendsville, TN. USA ) last night was very good.
Solid copy on " WD2XES -John in DFCW with no fades over a 3 hour period.
at 03:00 UTC, WD2XGJ - Warren in QRSS mode was audible here even during
his CW ID sequence, with very little fading. Got some nice captures too.

73 :::

Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz ( QRSS-60 )
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Hi LF,
Capture DI2AG
Henny pa3cpm
best 73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
DI2AG 08-09.jpg

Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld.

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi LF,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Capture DI2AG</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Henny pa3cpm</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>best 73s</FONT></DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het 
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Hello LF!
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Roger Lapthorn wrote:
> My 500kHz beacon has just been turned back on again. Any reports or 
> screenshots would be appreciated.  It would be lovely to have some 
> reports from a few new stations too and I'd just love to get >100kms 
> with the current QRP set-up.
>
> 73s
> Roger
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> G3XBM    GQRP 1678      ISWL G11088
Roger, I had my Rx running all last night, I'll do the same from now, 
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Roger Lapthorn wrote:

> Success!!! Recalibrated the sound card as suggested and BINGO - decode 
> on first try!
>
> 2009-09-10 21:15:29 >WOLF10  -r 8100.257 -f 1000 -t 1 -w 0.0000
> t:  24 f:-0.339 a:-1.5 dp: 85.6 ci: 7 cj:272 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
>
>
> 73s and thanks for everyone's help tonight
>
> Roger G3XBM
>
ooops!  you've already done it before my mail arrived . sorry, did not 
see it !
CONGRATULATIONS !

                                                      73 de piotr, sq7mpj
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Hello Henny ,
Good conditions this still on the Atlantic, and Asia.
On your capure one sees the signal of UA4WPF beacon!
73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

henny van elst a =E9crit :
> Hi Warren LF,
> Nice capture XGJ
> Henny pa3cpm
> best 73
>  =20

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This bodes well as the path gets more dark. Set up is R75 and PA0RDT Probe=
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Thanks for the sigs

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Thanks Jim - I have to keep tabs myself at work whats actually happening=
 in this domain and theatre (in more ways than one) - I guess Ill see the=
 next release of a Chinese text Navtex receiver probably in a couple of we=
eks down the local market. The interesting thing is the guys down the road=
 are actually testing on 484 not 486 and we have this lovely asssigned ver=
sus carrier debacle that crops up now and again - some say 2 some 2.1 Khz=
 off set etc etc. I didnt go into that with the station manager there but=
 its going to be interesting - I still recall of lot of my miltary radio=
 days with the PRC series used to keep my head scratching a lot on what I=
 was really transmitting on...still do.

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I picked up the China bit from

http://www.iho.shom.fr/COMMITTEES/CPRNW/CPRNW9/CPRNW9-3-3-1.pdf

and they cite here and else where the issues of limiting power cos of co=
 channel.

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My local Navtex station is some 100 miles from here and luckily theyve got=
 the tuning right - it can be a bit of a mess, and I recall some of the aw=
ful tuned Navtex transmissions that plagued me in Singapore marine trying=
 to listen on 500 -=20

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I do miss awfully the musical and not so musical A2 sounds when I was at=
 sea....Argh Jim lad - isnt it talk like a pirate day too?

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The noise is kicking up a bit even on 500 but will be looking your way thi=
s evening on WSPR and the speaker open for Mal.

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Laurence

KL1 X in BY3A

OM89UA China.

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> From: james.moritz@btopenworld.com
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 11:09:06 +0100
> Subject: LF: Re: 500 still in use?
>=20
> Dear Laurence, LF Group,
>=20
> The 468kHz frequency does seem to be slated for Chinese Navtex broadcast=
s -=20
> apparently 424kHz is being used for Japanese language Navtex too. This=
 seems=20
> to coincide with a general shift to using 490kHz for Navtex weather=20
> forecasts instead of "local language" as it was originally supposed to=
 be.
>=20
> I beleive the international agreements relating to Navtex say that "no=
 more=20
> than 1kW" should be used for Navtex broadcasts, and then only under=20
> exceptional circumstances, in order to minimise mutual QRM. but if you=
 look=20
> at manufacturer's TX offerings, you will struggle to find one less than=
 1kW.=20
> Fun for DXers, I suppose, but not so clever when you actually need the=
 info!
>=20
> Several years ago when a 500kHz allocation was first mooted, I spent som=
e=20
> time listening to 500kHz, and most nights used to hear Italian coast=20
> stations - IAR was one I think. They would appear on 500k and tell you=
 to=20
> QSY to some nearby frequency. When you did so they would broadcast a lon=
g=20
> list of ships' callsigns, I presume who they had traffic for. But I neve=
r=20
> did hear any 2-way operating, and got the impression the whole thing was=
=20
> computer generated. I haven't heard these coast stations since about 200=
3,=20
> or maybe before.
>=20
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>=20
> ----- Original Message -----=20
> From: "Laurence BY3A-KL1X China" <hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2009 9:40 AM
> Subject: LF: 500 still in use?
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> Im asked whether 500kcs or kHz etc is still in use here and yes it is -=
=20
> heres a TTT TTT Nav warning on 500.00 Khz at Hr +18 from XSV Tianjin rad=
io=20
> about 15 miles from me just a few mins ago.
>=20
>=20
>=20
> I dont hear Ship to Ship or Ship to Shore on MF, or should I say I haven=
t=20
> yet and none of my ships or platforms are equipped here, but the Chinese=
=20
> announced back in 2007 that 486 Khz (assigned) is to be used for a "Nati=
onal=20
> language channel" - Im not sure if this relates to safety traffic/navtex=
 or=20
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 on=20
> that freq to 5Kw, and dont I know it.
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Thanks Jim - I have to&nbsp;keep tabs myself at work whats actually happen=
ing in this domain and theatre (in more ways than one) -&nbsp;I guess Ill=
 see the next release of a Chinese text Navtex receiver probably&nbsp;in=
 a couple of weeks down the local market.&nbsp;The interesting thing is th=
e guys down the road are actually testing on 484 not 486 and&nbsp;we have=
 this lovely asssigned versus carrier debacle&nbsp;that crops up now and=
 again - some say 2 some 2.1 Khz off&nbsp;set etc etc. I didnt go into tha=
t&nbsp;with the station manager&nbsp;there but its&nbsp;going to be intere=
sting - I still recall of lot of my&nbsp;miltary radio days with the PRC=
 series used to keep my head scratching a lot on what I was really transmi=
tting on...still do.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
I picked up the China bit from<BR>
<A href=3D"http://www.iho.shom.fr/COMMITTEES/CPRNW/CPRNW9/CPRNW9-3-3-1.pdf=
">http://www.iho.shom.fr/COMMITTEES/CPRNW/CPRNW9/CPRNW9-3-3-1.pdf</A><BR>
and they cite here and else where the issues of limiting power cos of co=
 channel.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
My local Navtex station is some 100 miles from here and luckily theyve got=
 the tuning right - it can be a bit of a mess, and I recall some of the aw=
ful tuned Navtex transmissions that plagued me in Singapore marine trying=
 to listen on 500 - <BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
I do miss awfully the musical and not so musical A2 sounds when I was at=
 sea....Argh Jim lad - isnt it talk like a pirate day too?<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
The noise is kicking up a bit even on 500 but will be looking your way thi=
s evening on WSPR and the speaker open for Mal.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Laurence<BR>
KL1 X in BY3A<BR>
OM89UA China.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>&gt; From: james.moritz@btopenworld.com<BR>&gt; To: rsgb_lf_grou=
p@blacksheep.org<BR>&gt; Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 11:09:06 +0100<BR>&gt; Sub=
ject: LF: Re: 500 still in use?<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Dear Laurence, LF Group,<=
BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; The 468kHz frequency does seem to be slated for Chinese=
 Navtex broadcasts - <BR>&gt; apparently 424kHz is being used for Japanese=
 language Navtex too. This seems <BR>&gt; to coincide with a general shift=
 to using 490kHz for Navtex weather <BR>&gt; forecasts instead of "local=
 language" as it was originally supposed to be.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; I beleive=
 the international agreements relating to Navtex say that "no more <BR>&gt=
; than 1kW" should be used for Navtex broadcasts, and then only under <BR>=
&gt; exceptional circumstances, in order to minimise mutual QRM. but if yo=
u look <BR>&gt; at manufacturer's TX offerings, you will struggle to find=
 one less than 1kW. <BR>&gt; Fun for DXers, I suppose, but not so clever=
 when you actually need the info!<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Several years ago when=
 a 500kHz allocation was first mooted, I spent some <BR>&gt; time listenin=
g to 500kHz, and most nights used to hear Italian coast <BR>&gt; stations=
 - IAR was one I think. They would appear on 500k and tell you to <BR>&gt;=
 QSY to some nearby frequency. When you did so they would broadcast a long=
 <BR>&gt; list of ships' callsigns, I presume who they had traffic for. Bu=
t I never <BR>&gt; did hear any 2-way operating, and got the impression th=
e whole thing was <BR>&gt; computer generated. I haven't heard these coast=
 stations since about 2003, <BR>&gt; or maybe before.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Che=
ers, Jim Moritz<BR>&gt; 73 de M0BMU<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; ----- Original Messag=
e ----- <BR>&gt; From: "Laurence BY3A-KL1X China" &lt;hellozerohellozero@h=
otmail.com&gt;<BR>&gt; To: &lt;rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org&gt;<BR>&gt; Se=
nt: Saturday, September 19, 2009 9:40 AM<BR>&gt; Subject: LF: 500 still in=
 use?<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Im asked whethe=
r 500kcs or kHz etc is still in use here and yes it is - <BR>&gt; heres a=
 TTT TTT Nav warning on 500.00 Khz at Hr +18 from XSV Tianjin radio <BR>&g=
t; about 15 miles from me just a few mins ago.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;=
 <BR>&gt; I dont hear Ship to Ship or Ship to Shore on MF, or should I say=
 I havent <BR>&gt; yet and none of my ships or platforms are equipped here=
, but the Chinese <BR>&gt; announced back in 2007 that 486 Khz (assigned)=
 is to be used for a "National <BR>&gt; language channel" - Im not sure if=
 this relates to safety traffic/navtex or <BR>&gt; gen bsct - or whatever,=
 but Tianjin is just increasing its output power on <BR>&gt; that freq to=
 5Kw, and dont I know it.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR><br /><hr />Ready=
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Hello Dave and LF,

thank's for report and info !

73 de Gus SM6BHZ

----- Original Message ----- 
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> WSPR report of Gus's signal this evening.
> 
> Also looking for G3XBM, but static levels re very high tonight.
> 
> 2255  -6  0.6   0.503526  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
> 
> 73m Dave G3WCB IO91RM n Windsor S.E. England
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James Cowburn wrote:

> 
> For now I am back on WSPR 502.4

James,

I just checked on the WSPRNET site, and sorted all your spots by 
distance - looks like you made it the Shetland twice a couple of days ago.


Searched in my ALL_MEPT file and found:

090908 0042   2 -29  1.5   0.503947  G7NKS IO92 30

090908 0350   4 -27  1.2   0.503948  G7NKS IO92 30


WSRPNET calculates this as 916km

Best DX?

Cheers,

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Dear All,

Having now watched England beat Croatia I have just fired up the G7NKS=
 WSPR
set up.  Still sub sub optimal but thanks to Lee MOLMH I now have some
additional ideas on antennas to add to those from MOFMT and Dr. Moritz

Best regards

Dr. Jim Cowburn G7NKS



-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT
Sent: 09 September 2009 21:43
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Hi Lubos,

It looks like there is only Gus & me on tonight, thanks for your repor=
t.

You can have your decodes uploaded to the WSPR Spots Page at :-

http://www.wsprnet.org/meptspots.php

by ticking the box "Upload Spots" on the program window.

73,

Gary - G4WGT.

2009/9/9 Lubos OK2BVG <bvgbob@hotmail.com>:
> Hello LF!
> I changed my aerials and the results is more better. I just see SM6B=
HZ and
> G4WGT.
>
> 1940=A0 -3=A0 1.0=A0=A0 1.503951=A0 0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 1942 -29=A0 2.3=A0=A0 1.503911=A0 0 G4WGT IO83 27
> 1946=A0 -2=A0 1.2=A0=A0 1.503951=A0 0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
>
> Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS
>
> ________________________________
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Now off WSPR due no traffic @ 13.30 BST

G7NKS



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My 500kHz WSPR beacon is back on again this evening and overnight. Reports
and screenshots would be appreciated.

I tried to make a small improvement today but what I tried made things
worse. Suspect a BIG change to the antenna/ground system will be needed to
up the ERP. This will have to wait a few weeks now.

73s
Roger  G3XBM

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http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/
http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
G3XBM    GQRP 1678      ISWL G11088

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My 500kHz WSPR beacon is back on again this evening and overnight. Reports=
 and screenshots would be appreciated.<br><br>I tried to make a small impr=
ovement today but what I tried made things worse. Suspect a BIG change to=
 the antenna/ground system will be needed to up the ERP. This will have to=
 wait a few weeks now.<br>
<br>73s<br clear=3D"all">Roger=A0 G3XBM<br><br>---------------------------=
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G3XBM =A0 =A0GQRP 1678 =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL G11088<br>

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Anderey,
thank's report and info !
Yesterday 21.30 i run 10 W erp, today i run only 1 W ERP and that is 
probobly the reason !

73 de Gus SM6BHZ


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> Hello Gus,
> Today bad propagation to Moscow. Yesterday it was much better.
> The most good your signal was yesterday at 21.32:
>
> 2132  1  -0.5   0.503931  SM6BHZ  JO57 40
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> 73
> Andrey 





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Dear LF Group,

I still haven't replied to Fritz Raab, W1FR, regarding the WD2XSH US band 
plan which he is apparently coordinating - you may remember I posted the US 
proposals, which he sent me, a couple of weeks ago, but have not received 
any comments from other UK/Eu stations. I think I should reply with 
something, so now is your chance... The proposal relates to the US 
allocation extending to 495 - 515kHz, and how that would fit in with current 
UK and Eu beacon operations. The content of the e-mail is below. The issue 
is that they would like to make a 501.0 - 501.2kHz WSPR sub-band, to fit in 
with the various other proposals. Various other types of beacon modes are 
allocated frequencies outside the UK/EI/ON 501 - 504kHz range, while 501.2 - 
504kHz is allocated to "general comms". Retaining frequencies just below 
504kHz would divide their "general comms" band in two

I don't think there is anything preventing us from doing this, it is just 
the inconvenience of turning the current band "upside-down". Let me know 
what you think!

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU

>>>From W1FR:

Greetings:

     Thanks for the comments on the band plan, passed
along to me by W1XP.

     About a month ago, a modification to the WD2XSH
license was approved that adds stations and gives us
access to 495 - 510 kHz.  Perhaps half of the 42 stations
will eventually get on the air.  Because of NDBs, some
stations are limited to parts of this band and we will
have two calling frequencies and two beacon bands.

     A draft of our new band plan follows.  Of particular
interest is WSPR.  As I see it, our options are:

(a)  501.0-501.2:  Conveniently on one side of our comms
     band.  Will not overload WSPR receivers near 504 kHz.
     Apparently in EU CW-beacon band.

(b)  503.8-504.0:  Apparently same as what you guys are
     using.  Cuts our comms band in the middle.  Nearby
     stations may overload US receivers trying to hear EUs.

(c)  503.9-504.1:  Same problems as above with cutting
     comms band in two and overloading.  Conveniently
     straddles both G/ON/EI and Canadian bands.

     Any further thoughts you may have will be
appreciated.


73, Fritz, W1FR

Frederick H. (Fritz) Raab, Ph.D.
GREEN MOUNTAIN RADIO RESEARCH COMPANY
77 Vermont Avenue, Fort Ethan Allen
Colchester, Vermont 05446  USA
Tel./Fax.:  +1 (802) 655-9670  Home:  +1 (802) 862-0997
E-mail:  f.raab@ieee.org

BASIC BAND PLAN for WD2XSH

f, kHz          USE

495.0 - 495.1   QRSS, 1-Hz spacing, 40 stations
495.1 - 495.6   CW/PSK beacons midwest, 100-Hz spacing, 10 stations
495.6 - 499.0   Comms
497.5           Calling frequency
499.0 - 501.0   Reserved for heritage stations and special events
501.0 - 501.2   WSPR
501.2 - 505.0   Comms
505.0 - 505.2   DX window
505.2 - 508.5   Comms
507.5           Calling frequency
508.5 - 510.0   CW/PSK beacons east, south, west, Pacific, 50-Hz spacing, 30
stations
510.0 - 511.0   WE2XGR beacons
511.0 - 515.0   WE2XGR SSB and wideband modes


OTHER IN-BAND SIGNALS

503.976         NEED LSB
505.0           NEED carrier
506.024         NEED USB

508.976         OF/FA LSB
510.0           OF/FA carrier
511.024         OF/FA USB



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Dear LF Group,

Thanks to all for the overnight reports/decodes. I also set my RX to listen 
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considering the level of QRN!

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Dear LF ,

I will beacon WSPR this evening QRG 503,925 kHz on request.

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Hi Claude
I copy last night signal on 137,740kHz. Its yours?
Vy 73!
Marcin SQ2BXI


hi Marcin and LF
GM is f8boj error frequence in qrss3 change frequency for 137740hz  =
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qsl...F8boj Claude jn16wa----- Original Message -----
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Hello Jean Pierre
Your grabber regularly copy my signal:
http://www.sp2kds.pl/images/stories/f1afj.jpg
Vy 73!
Marcin SQ2BXI

Hello Marcin ,

Tnx for info , my antenna are at QTF 295=B0 (USA)

73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

Marcin a =E9crit :
> Dear Jean Pierre, LF
> It is HF70W QRSS 60 signal.
> Vy 73!
> Marcin SQ2BXI
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>
>> Hello LF'ers ,
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>> I copy on 137,778 unidentified signal ?
>> 22:00 =3D> 23:00 utc ( see on picture )
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>> 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj
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Roger Lapthorn wrote:
>  Overnight tonight I shall be running the WSPR beacon again in the hope that
> a few more people may spot my tiny signal.

Roger,

Still looking. I do think you'll make it to Shetland one night - it's 
still very early in the LF season, conditions will get better over the 
next copule of months.

Would you also like to try 160m one night, I notice your best DX on 160m 
WSPR is a few km short of the distance bewteen us (which is 895km) I'm 
happy to listen on any band, at any time!

Cheers,

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G/M Jim, Gus, LF!
Full reports till 7 up to 14 sep 2009 with all screen-shots:
http://qrss.nm.ru/500.html

Roman

> Hi Gus, Jim, LF!
>
> Into my location KO85ro today:
> 1926 -24 1.2 0.503925 0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
> 1932 -26 1.1 0.503925 0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
> 1938 -27 1.1 0.503925 1 SM6BHZ JO57 30
> 1958 -16 1.1 0.503925 0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2014 -15 1.0 0.503925 0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2022 -15 0.9 0.503925 0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2028 -15 0.9 0.503925 0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2032 -13 0.9 0.503925 0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2038 -20 0.5 0.503925 0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2046 -17 1.2 0.503925 0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2052 -25 0.3 0.503925 0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2056 -19 1.0 0.503925 0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2102 -22 1.1 0.503925 0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2110 -27 -0.1 0.503925 0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2124 -22 0.7 0.503925 0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2130 -15 1.3 0.503925 0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2134 -22 1.0 0.503925 0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2140 -19 1.1 0.503925 0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2146 -15 1.2 0.503925 0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2152 -20 1.3 0.503925 0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2200 -28 1.3 0.503925 0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2206 -23 1.2 0.503925 0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2210 -14 1.2 0.503925 0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2216 -15 1.3 0.503925 0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2224 -20 1.3 0.503925 0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2228 -17 1.2 0.503925 0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2234 -29 1.3 0.503840 0 M0BMU IO91 33
> 2236 -24 1.5 0.503925 0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2242 -25 1.5 0.503925 0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2246 -17 1.5 0.503925 0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2252 -26 1.2 0.503840 0 M0BMU IO91 33
> 2254 -25 1.5 0.503925 0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2256 -27 1.1 0.503840 0 M0BMU IO91 33
> 2302 -31 1.5 0.503840 0 M0BMU IO91 33
> 2308 -23 1.8 0.503925 0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
> 2310 -27 1.4 0.503840 0 M0BMU IO91 33
> 2314 -28 1.4 0.503840 0 M0BMU IO91 33
> 2318 -25 1.4 0.503840 0 M0BMU IO91 33
> 2322 -26 1.7 0.503925 0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>
> Glad to see M0BMU.
> it was more wonderful prop last monday.
> All reports next into 500-part qrss.nm.ru
>
> 73!
> Roman
>
> > Hi Gus, Jim, LF,
> >
> > 1920 -23 0.9 0.503926 SM6BHZ JO57 30
> > 1932 -16 1.0 0.503926 SM6BHZ JO57 30
> > 1938 -15 1.1 0.503927 SM6BHZ JO57 30
> > 1948 -10 0.9 0.503926 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> > 1958 -8 0.9 0.503926 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> > 2002 -26 0.8 0.503841 M0BMU IO91 33
> > 2004 -2 1.0 0.503926 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> > 2006 -27 0.6 0.503841 M0BMU IO91 33
> > 2014 -26 1.4 0.503841 M0BMU IO91 33
> > 2014 -14 0.8 0.503927 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> > 2018 -22 0.8 0.503841 M0BMU IO91 33
> > 2022 -6 1.0 0.503927 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> > 2028 -6 0.8 0.503926 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> > 2032 -21 0.8 0.503841 M0BMU IO91 33
> > 2032 -5 0.9 0.503926 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> > 2038 -8 1.0 0.503926 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> > 2046 -3 1.0 0.503926 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> > 2050 -29 0.8 0.503841 M0BMU IO91 33
> > 2052 -9 0.7 0.503926 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> > 2056 -30 0.6 0.503841 M0BMU IO91 33
> > 2056 -9 0.8 0.503927 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> > 2102 -24 0.5 0.503841 M0BMU IO91 33
> > 2102 -9 0.8 0.503927 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> > 2108 -21 0.6 0.503841 M0BMU IO91 33
> > 2110 -7 0.9 0.503926 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> > 2116 -20 0.6 0.503841 M0BMU IO91 33
> > 2116 -15 0.6 0.503926 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> > 2122 -24 2.1 0.503841 M0BMU IO91 33
> > 2124 -7 0.8 0.503926 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> >
> > 73
> > Andrey


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2009-09-11 05:49:46 >WOLF10  -r 7997.017 -f 1100 -t 3 -d 5 -w 0.0000
t:  24 f: 0.286 a: 0.1 dp: 73.5 ci: 1 cj:  0 MBEZF3 WAHD970J ?
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Looks like I've done this one to death now until some real DX or real 
QRP station comes on - hi!

Cheers,

John


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Hi John lf Group
Thank you for the controversy after modificaltion transformer impedance 
advocated by Michel F5Wk
I've tested the system 48 v 3.5A appears it is no major problem to present 
.... good evening everyone
Claude F8boj
Thank you for your information about your conditions of reception of 137 kHz
73 s
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> At 1530z.
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> F5VLF
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Hello all,

Nice signals from all WSPRers

I see there's a disagreement amongst you about whether to report ERP or 
TX power. Is there an agreed standard for this on MF/LF?

Jim, Gary & Gus seem to report ERP and Graham reports TX power. This 
makes Graham's spots look poorer than they should be.

I remember some discussion a few months ago about this, but can't 
remember the concensus that was reached. It would be good though if you 
all did the same thing, to gove a consistent approach and to allow 
better comparison between S/N, Distance and Power.

Cheers,

John
GM4SLV

Gus wrote:
> Dear Jim and group,
> 
> this evening i run WSPR beacon with abt 10 dB more power.


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At 1928z.

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Signals from Mori (JH1GVY) were copied here overnight on Friday (09/19/09 
1200-1300Z) during his short beaconing session. Unfortunately he was only 
able to get a few elements of QRSS120 off before high winds forced his 
balloon-supported vertical to the ground. By good fortune, Laurence, 
listening in China, was also able to capture Mori's signal, which allowed me 
to confirm reception by comparing the time and frequency signatures of both 
captures, including the slight downward chirp on his signal.

Apparently Mori is operating from a portable location and appears to be 
generating a good signal. Further testing will hopefully yield a complete ID 
from his station.

The distance between here and his location, north of Tokyo, is very 
comparable to the east-coast /European path I believe, at around 4600 miles. 
The path to Japan from western NA seems much more forgiving than the brutal 
long-haul down to VK / ZL. This, coupled with a huge amateur 'homebrew' 
population in Japan, should make for some interesting JA-NA Trans-Pacific LF 
work, once we here in NA get full-time operating privileges on LF.

Although Japan has only had 2200m for a brief time, there appears to be much 
interest and activity already. Mori is to be congratulated for getting the 
first JA LF signal over to NA - hopefully many more will follow.

His web site, although all in Japanese, shows his level of interest and 
commitment and makes for interesting study.

http://www003.upp.so-net.ne.jp/JH1GVY/lf-top.html

A copy of my screen capture can be seen here:

http://members.shaw.ca/ve7sl/mori

73

Steve / VE7SL / Mayne Island, B.C.

WEB - "The VE7SL Radio Notebook":  http://members.shaw.ca/ve7sl 



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Henny,

    Thank you, one string is all that I sent last night!
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2009/9/23 henny van elst <cpm@planet.nl>:
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> Capture one string,
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> best 73s


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Excellent Steve - Im sure he will be delighted with that.

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Thanks
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G'day Laurence,
=20
I have a capture of the GV beacon at this link:
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http://www.djirra.com/low_frequency/log/index.htm
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Look for the entry at the top dated 18/09/09 and click on the thumbnail.
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73 Steve VK2ZTO (also VK2XV)

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Excellent Steve&nbsp;- Im sure he will be delighted&nbsp;with that.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Thanks<BR>&nbsp;<BR>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>G'day Laurence,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>I have a capture of the GV beacon at this link:</F=
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* mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net> [Fri, 25 Sep 2009 19:21:43 
+0100]:
> Nw DX G3KEV ON 502.57 Kcs QSX 7033 CW AND QRS3
> DE G3KEV

You are REAL Radio Amateur, OM!
I'm admire you!


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Still 599 roman on 7033 and also lsn for YO2IS
MAL G3KEV

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>* mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net> [Sat, 19 Sep 2009 20:37:34
> +0100]:
>> Hi
>> Roman
>> Tnx O copy report, vy gud condx on 7033 fm Russia pse call again for
> qso
>> mal/g3kev
>
> Tried after every cycle of your tx.
>
> Only trace on 502.7 at moment.
>
> Roman
>
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>>
>>
>> > Hi Mal, LF!
>> > Copy you OOO 502.570, but you are do not heard me on 40m.
>> >
>> > grabber is on 502.0 dial
>> >
>> > Roman
>> >
>> >> Now in CQ DX MODE 502.57 and QSX 7033 KCS for xband QSO'S
>> >> G3KEV
>> >
>>
>>
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Hi Roman
Look out for my signal this evening starting 1800 utc 502.57 kcs qsx 7033 
kcs for xband qso
de mal/g3kev

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Hi Laurence!
100% UA4WPF! fine business!
I'm read his message in RUS-DW yahoo-group.

>>Äŕţ ěŕ˙ę â íî÷ü ń 18 íŕ 19 ńĺíň˙áđ˙ 2009 ă.
-I can make an beacon at 18 up to 19 sep 2009 tonight.
>>beacon (W_--) DFCW 240 F=137.77725 18 - 02 UTC Loc.LO66PU
>>73!
>>Anatol
>>UA4WPF

Roman

* Laurence BY3A-KL1X China <hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com> [Fri, 18 Sep
2009 14:14:37 -0800]:
>
> Sorry that should have been 137.7772 ish  - too early in the
> morning....of course it could be a "W" !
>
>
>
> Wheres the coffee....
>
>
>
> From: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 13:43:19 -0800
> Subject: LF: 137.772
>
>
>
> Good early morning - Who is M on this freq out to my West? As it gets
> daylight a Loran line will appear close to this freq and is just (just
> visible)
>
> DCF39 is S7 this mng :-))
>
> Laurence in BY3A OM89UA
>
>
>
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On 4 Sep 2009 at 21:48, James Moritz wrote:

> Dear LF Group,
> 
> The M0BMU WSPR beacon is running again tonight 0n 503.975kHz (502.4k
> "dial frequency"). Any reports are very welcome. Also a very strong
> signal from SM6BHZ tonight.
> 
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU 
> 
> 

Well prompted by all the mails on here I have just installed the WSPR 
software and had a listen to your signals this morning.

I noticed a couple of things which might explain why I was not getting 
any decodes:

1. On switch on of my K2 and Datong UC1 which I use for 500kHz receive 
there is a noticeable drift, initially as high as 10Hz in the 2 minute 
sampling period but eventually dropping to within 1Hz. I could not find 
a spec as to how stable the receiver needs to be for WSPR. I believe 
most of this drift is the 116MHz downconverter crystal in the UC1, 
which is a big limitation to using it as a serious 500kHz receiver.
2. Although I synchronised my computer clock to the time standards, and 
it seems just a fraction of a second different from my 60kHz clock, 
your transmissions seemed to be starting a second or two early, before 
my WSPR started receiving, and finishing at around the 1.52 minutes 
point. Is your clock out, or is this how it is supposed to work?
3. You are of course s9+ at this range, and show as bright red on 
WSPR's spectrogram. Hardly 'weak signal'. Does the software cope with 
strong signals or does it overload?

The only decode I got was for 'C1N/NU0RWS' in one of your non-transmit 
periods. With things like that coming out of white noise it doesn't 
give me much confidence in some of the other things the WSPR folks are 
bragging about....

It does though work OK on 30m and I have decoded a few Eu stations so I 
would have thought I would have been able to copy Jim.

I guess this will be another few days little play before I go back to 
more useful things...

73 Dave G3YMC


I have received a few Eu stations on 30m
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Dear Roger, LF Group,

The "WOLF GUI" software can be downloaded from 
http://freenet-homepage.de/dl4yhf/wolf/index.html. Intallation is just a 
matter of unzipping the zip file. If you then run the WOLF program, you will 
need to enter the WOLF config menu and set the centre frequency in "receive 
options" to the audio pitch coming out of your receiver - if you are 
receiving in CW mode, this will just be the CW pitch, if in USB mode it will 
be the difference between the "dial" frequency and 503.500kHz. You may also 
need to set the receive frequency tolerance - WOLF expects very accurate TX 
and RX frequencies, so if the error of you RX frequency is likely to be more 
than the default 1Hz, you will want to increase this tolerance. For 
receiving strong signals, averaging over many frames is unnecessary, so you 
would want to reduce "Nr of frames" to, say, 3. Then it is simply a matter 
of returning to the main screen and selecting "RX" by clicking on the button 
near the top left of the box, and waiting while various cryptic numbers, and 
eventually, hopefully, the decoded message, appear.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU

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Subject: LF: WOLF for real dummies?


> *Newbie help please.....*



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Hi Laurence!

504 are the same in Moscow:
http://qrss.nm.ru/grabber.html
but WSPR decoded!
http://rw3adb.narod.ru/2009/7sep2009_503.5kHz/BHZ.jpg
http://rw3adb.narod.ru/2009/7sep2009_503.5kHz/BHZ2.jpg

Roman

* Laurence BY3A-KL1X China <hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com> [Sun, 6 Sep 
2009 13:05:13 -0800]:
>
> That carrier on 504 and associated mod is pushing sidebands into the
> WSPR section quite strongly here. Grabber running.
>
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>
> Laurence in BY
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> http://kl1x.com/2dx00000.jpg
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> The link to my server was really slow last night but appears better 
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Hi Jim,

      2009-09-18 21:30   M0BMU   0.503840   +16   0   IO91vr   2   DL4RAJ   JN68kj   1003   107
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       2009-09-18 20:52   M0BMU   0.503840   +15   0   IO91vr   2   DL4RAJ   JN68kj   1003   107
       2009-09-18 20:46   M0BMU   0.503840   +15   0   IO91vr   2   DL4RAJ   JN68kj   1003   107


cl now
73
Clemens
DL4RAJ 

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Hi Jim, LF,



your WSPR on 137.0 kHz was received fairly well in Nuernberg throughout th=
e night. Often the SNR in the QRN appeared marginal even though the trace=
 on the grabber screen looked quite good - this is due WSPR fed by linear=
 audio containing all the impulsive noise, whereas the SpecLab screen did=
 have the software noise blanker engaged.



The frequency incidentally suits me well as my grabber receiver is sitting=
 on 135.5 kHz USB anyway, eliminating the need of another frequency conver=
sion and a second PC running WSPR. I'll just leave it like that for a coup=
le of days, so any possible spots between 136.9 and 137.1 will hopefully=
 be uploaded.



Best 73,

Markus, DF6NM
=C2=A0=20


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Thema: Re: LF: Re: WSPR 137.0k



Dear LF Group,=C2=A0
=C2=A0
Thanks to all for the overnight reports/decodes. I also set my RX to liste=
n for WD2XES on 137.577k, but no decodes here - perhaps not suprising cons=
idering the level of QRN!=C2=A0
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<div>Hi Jim, LF,</div>


<div>&nbsp;</div>


<div>your WSPR on 137.0 kHz was received fairly well in Nuernberg througho=
ut the night. Often the SNR in the QRN appeared marginal even though the=
 trace on the grabber screen looked quite good - this is due WSPR fed by=
 linear audio containing all the impulsive noise, whereas the SpecLab scre=
en did have the software noise blanker engaged.</div>


<div>&nbsp;</div>


<div>The frequency incidentally suits me well as my grabber receiver is si=
tting on 135.5 kHz USB anyway, eliminating the need of another frequency=
 conversion and a second PC running WSPR. I'll just leave it like that for=
 a couple of days, so any possible spots between 136.9 and 137.1 will hope=
fully be uploaded.</div>


<div>&nbsp;</div>


<div>Best 73,</div>


<div>Markus, DF6NM<br>
&nbsp; <br>
<br>
<br>
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Verschickt: Mo., 21. Sept. 2009, 9:04<br>
Thema: Re: LF: Re: WSPR 137.0k<br>
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&nbsp;<br>
Thanks to all for the overnight reports/decodes. I also set my RX to liste=
n for WD2XES on 137.577k, but no decodes here - perhaps not suprising cons=
idering the level of QRN!&nbsp;<br>
&nbsp;<br>
Cheers, Jim Moritz&nbsp;<br>
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Hello Jordan,

Regarding Q, I have used potcores, but this is not necessary at all.
Standard moulded rf chokes, those that look like resistors, give excellent
results.

I have found that the bandwidth can be so narrow that it was possible to
peak the individual sidebands of a 400 Hz modulated non directional beacon
at 400 kHz. as said before, decreasing the gain broadens the response to a
more practical bandwidth.

73,
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> Andrey - still very noisy over this side from Pacific storms (30 over)  and only traces seen on your assigned freq. 73 Laurence 
> in BY3A

Hi Laurence,
Many thanks for info!

73 



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Hello Jordan,

Sorry for the delay, I just forgot to answer your question.

In the attachment you will find the circuit diagram of a tuneable  
pre-amplifier.
I have build several of these and the frequency response is quite narrow.
The circuit has ample gain and using the rf-gain control, the tuned  
circuit is "damped", which broadens the response. The gain is realised by  
the impedance transformation of the tuned circuit, which results in  
considerable voltage gain. The amplifier is a voltage follower with an  
output impedance of 50 ohm.

Best regards,
Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt

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Hi Dave, LF,

> Dave Sergeant wrote:
>> 3. You are of course s9+ at this range, and show as bright red on WSPR'=
s
>> spectrogram. Hardly 'weak signal'. Does the software cope with strong
>> signals or does it overload?

I get about 25% decode from Graham G0NBD who is about 35-40 miles from
me, all weaker signals decode OK. As it is a weak signal mode the
stronger signals must be a cause of non-decodes.

73,

Gary - G4WGT.

2009/9/5 John P-G <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk>:
> Dave, LF,
>
>
> Dave Sergeant wrote:
>
>>
>> Well prompted by all the mails on here I have just installed the WSPR
>> software and had a listen to your signals this morning.
>>
>> I noticed a couple of things which might explain why I was not getting=
 any
>> decodes:
>>
>> 1. On switch on of my K2 and Datong UC1 which I use for 500kHz receive
>> there is a noticeable drift, initially as high as 10Hz in the 2 minute
>> sampling period but eventually dropping to within 1Hz. I could not find=
 a
>> spec as to how stable the receiver needs to be for WSPR. I believe most=
 of
>> this drift is the 116MHz downconverter crystal in the UC1, which is a=
 big
>> limitation to using it as a serious 500kHz receiver.
>
> The frequency needs to be reasonably stable - the WSPR software will rep=
ort
> the frequency shift seen during a reception period as "Drift" and I've=
 seen
> a few reports of 1 or 2 Hz. This implies that it will work with a 1-2Hz
> drift across the 2 minute period. I'm not sure what the absolute limit=
 is
> though.
>
>> 2. Although I synchronised my computer clock to the time standards, and=
 it
>> seems just a fraction of a second different from my 60kHz clock, your
>> transmissions seemed to be starting a second or two early, before my WS=
PR
>> started receiving, and finishing at around the 1.52 minutes point. Is=
 your
>> clock out, or is this how it is supposed to work?
>
> My PC is running NTP and is (hopefully fairly well locked to NTP time)=
 and
> WSPR reports =A0"DT" (Delta Time) of +/- 0.1 Seconds on Jim's signals,=
 so I
> guess that he and I are in agreement of what the correct time is, and he=
's
> getting lots of spots reported from other stations, so I don't think his
> timing is an issue. His trace on the waterfall in WSPR sits nicely in th=
e
> 2-minute window.
>
> I've seen successful decodes with DTs of up to 2 seconds.
>
> The SNR/clock rate issue (see below) might muddy the waters =A0on absolu=
te
> timing accuracy though?
>
>> 3. You are of course s9+ at this range, and show as bright red on WSPR'=
s
>> spectrogram. Hardly 'weak signal'. Does the software cope with strong
>> signals or does it overload?
>
> This might be significant though.
>
> I've seen may times that very strong signals fail to decode whereas much
> weaker ones from the same station (eg during QSB or after reduction in=
 TX
> power) decode fine. There is one theory that it's to do with the accurac=
y of
> the soundcard clocks. With weakish signals some of the transmission is=
 lost
> in the noise and the FEC will kick in and allow a decode by "filling in=
 the
> gaps". With very strong signals no data is missed, and due to clock rate
> differnces the decode fails because the received bits are outide the
> tolerance of the decoder, timewise (A very poor description, sorry - And=
y
> JNT will explain better).
>
>
> This could imply that either yours or Jim's soundcard is not up to the=
 job.
> Since Jim has had spots reported from close stations with SNRs of +9dB=
 I
> guess this implies Jim's timing must be okay. I've seen this effect kick=
 in
> when signals start to go into the positive SNR region.
>
>
>> The only decode I got was for 'C1N/NU0RWS' in one of your non-transmit
>> periods.
>
> That's a false decode and might indicate that you have a noise problem.=
 I've
> seen similar gobbledegook decodes from people with high noise levels.
>
> HTH
>
> I'm receiving Jim consistently, in daylight, at -21dB SNR at 953km dista=
nce
> - on a Wellbrook ALA1530 loop.
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> John
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Wow !!! a lot of stations this morning.
 
Seen on my screen:
 
HB9ASB
M0BMU
F6BWO
F8BOJ
and me F4DTL

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<DIV><STRONG>Wow !!!</STRONG>&nbsp;a lot of stations this morning.</DIV>
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<DIV>Seen on my screen:</DIV>
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is it just me or is this msg stuck in a loop
I keep getting it over and over

Bob K3DJC

On Sun, 20 Sep 2009 06:47:52 -0400 <jrusgrove@comcast.net> writes:
Andy

K1JT, AA1A, W1XP, W1VD and W1TAG have been watching for EU WSPR. All
display correct station information.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Andy Talbot 
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org 
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 6:23 AM
Subject: Re: LF: G4JNT WSPR


K1JT and A1AA certainly appear to report a lot of Dx WSPR spots :-)
I do wish users would eithe rset their callsign / locator properly or
turn off automatic upload.

Best 'real' report last night was > 2000km, a TF station

Andy
www.g4jnt.com



 
On 20/09/2009, John P-G <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk> wrote: 
Andy, LF

Many spots last night - here's just one of them

2352  -6  0.4   0.503851  0 G4JNT IO90 23

And I wasn't even the best DX!

Cheers,

John
GM4SLV
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<DIV>is it just me or is this msg stuck in a loop</DIV>
<DIV>I keep getting it over and over</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Bob K3DJC</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>On Sun, 20 Sep 2009 06:47:52 -0400 &lt;<A  href=3D"mailto:jrusgrove@c=
omcast.net">jrusgrove@comcast.net</A>&gt; writes:</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr  style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 10px; MARGIN-LEFT: 10px; BOR=
DER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid">
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Andy</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>K1JT, AA1A, W1XP, W1VD and&nbsp;W1TAG=
 have been=20
  watching for EU WSPR. All display correct station information.</FONT></D=
IV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Jay W1VD&nbsp; WD2XNS&nbsp; WE2XGR/2</F=
ONT></DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr    style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px;=
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    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
    <DIV      style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color:=
 black"><B>From:</B>=20
    <A title=3Dandy.g4jnt@googlemail.com      href=3D"mailto:andy.g4jnt@go=
oglemail.com">Andy Talbot</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A      title=3Drsgb_lf_gro=
up@blacksheep.org      href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_l=
f_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
    </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, September 20, 200=
9 6:23=20
    AM</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: G4JNT WSPR</DI=
V>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV>K1JT and A1AA certainly appear to report a lot of Dx WSPR spots=
=20
    :-)</DIV>
    <DIV>I do wish users would eithe rset their callsign / locator properl=
y or=20
    turn off automatic upload.</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>Best 'real' report last night was &gt; 2000km, a TF station</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>Andy</DIV>
    <DIV><A href=3D"http://www.g4jnt.com">www.g4jnt.com</A></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><BR><BR>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3Dgmail_quote>On 20/09/2009, <B class=3Dgmail_sendern=
ame>John=20
    P-G</B> &lt;<A      href=3D"mailto:gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk">gm4s=
lv@sighthound.demon.co.uk</A>&gt;=20
    wrote:</SPAN>=20
    <BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dgmail_quote      style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGI=
N: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">Andy,=20
      LF<BR><BR>Many spots last night - here's just one of them<BR><BR>235=
2=20
      &nbsp;-6 &nbsp;0.4 &nbsp; 0.503851 &nbsp;0 G4JNT IO90 23<BR><BR>And=
 I=20
      wasn't even the best DX!<BR><BR>Cheers,<BR><BR>John<BR>GM4SLV<BR><SP=
AN        class=3Dsg>-- <BR><A onclick=3D"return top.js.OpenExtLink(window=
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_blank>http://gm4slv.blogspot.com</A><BR>Clousta,=20
      Shetland<BR>IP90gg<BR><BR></SPAN></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
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Hi Mal, LF!

trying to tx pse again.
I want  trying  to look your signal with 502.32 dial.

Roman

> DX G3KEV nw QRV 502.57 CW and QRS3. QSX 7033
>
> mal/g3kev


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Dear John, Jay, LF Group,

I started a bit late last night at 0124utc (don't ask...), but again got 
consistent copy of WE2XGR/2 and /3. /2 decoded between about 0350 and a 
little after 0534 (about sunrise time here), while /3 was decoded between 
0124 and about 0300. Most decodes occured within 288s - conditions seemed 
similar to last night.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
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Strong signal at 5:00z warren

73
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 Ive been faced with similar problems over the years and especially when=
 audio in and out rates differ. I know very little save using a couple of=
 simple utilities to at least demonstrate what I have in front of me. We=
 have some cal checks built in tests with the prog itself.....What to do=
 about the offset results is another matter and James describes.

=20

Ive been using the standalone Sound card calibration utility in MixW softw=
are http://www.mixw.net/index.php?j=3Ddownloads - its not to three decimal=
 places but does visualize what the offset is for both In and out to the=
 soundcard using a repetitive check sum. You can select the rate you have=
 in the windows...

=20

My Sound  rate in is 8102.12 for a supposed 8000 rate....

=20

I tried it today on my remote receiver up in Alaska just to check that I=
 had both the rx cal and the sound card cal close enough (as I can get) an=
d it seems to check out. It showed, after caling the sound card a 4.1Hz of=
fset at 10Mhz using the non stab R75 up there and it was dead on...I haven=
t tweeked that receiver for a year or too.

=20

Im using standard cheap (Im presuming) Sigmatel C and Crystal something on=
 one of the other ones. They arent that stable thats for sure....but good=
 enough.

=20

Laurence=20

=20

=20

=20
> From: james.moritz@btopenworld.com
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 13:33:07 +0100
> Subject: LF: Re: WOLF/WSPR Sound card issues
>=20
> Dear Dave,
>=20
> AC 97=20
> (http://download.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/sb/ac97_r23.pdf=
 )=20
> specifies 48kHz as the basic, obligatory sample rate for compliant sound=
=20
> cards, so yours should certainly be able to do it - to find more info,=
 you=20
> could try looking for the audio codec chip on the motherboard - usually=
 a=20
> very tiny square 48pin thing near the audio connectors, and searching us=
ing=20
> its type number. But I guess what sample rate is actually used will depe=
nd=20
> on software, drivers and so forth - perhaps someone with experience of=
 PC=20
> sound card programming could advise. Looking at the audio settings in th=
e=20
> Windows control panel may well tell you what sample rates are possible.=
=20
> Also, some software allows you to select different sample rates, for=20
> instance Spectrum Lab, but not Argo as far as I know.
>=20
> The errors you are getting in the measured frequency seem to be enormous=
 - 2=20
> or 3%, which would certainly give rise to problems.
>=20
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>=20
> ----- Original Message -----=20
> From: "Dave Sergeant" <dave@davesergeant.com>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 11:59 AM
> Subject: LF: WOLF/WSPR Sound card issues
>=20
>=20
> It seems that both WOLF and WSPR are
> > designed for current sound cards which have 48,000 and 96,000 clock
> > rates. Mine is obviously from the old stable so has 44,100 etc rates.
> >
> > For information it is the sound card interface built into the
> > motherboard, an ASR Rock K7S41GX dating from 2003 with generic AC'97
> > sound. Zilch more given about its spec in the manual.
> >
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<BR>&nbsp;Ive been faced with similar problems over the years and especial=
ly when audio in and out rates differ. I know very little save using a cou=
ple of simple utilities to at least demonstrate what I have in front of me=
. We have some cal checks built in tests with the prog itself.....What to=
 do about the offset results is&nbsp;another matter and James describes.<B=
R>
&nbsp;<BR>
Ive been using the standalone Sound card calibration utility in MixW softw=
are <A href=3D"http://www.mixw.net/index.php?j=3Ddownloads">http://www.mix=
w.net/index.php?j=3Ddownloads</A>&nbsp;- its not to three decimal places=
 but does visualize what the offset is for both In and out to the soundcar=
d using a repetitive check sum. You can select the rate you have in the wi=
ndows...<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
My Sound&nbsp; rate in is 8102.12 for a supposed 8000 rate....<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
I tried it today on my remote receiver up in Alaska just to check that I=
 had both the rx cal and the sound card cal close enough (as I can get) an=
d it seems to check out. It showed, after caling the sound card a 4.1Hz of=
fset at 10Mhz using the non stab R75 up there and it was dead on...I haven=
t tweeked that receiver for a year or too.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Im using standard cheap (Im presuming) Sigmatel C and Crystal something on=
 one of the other ones. They arent that stable thats for sure....but good=
 enough.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Laurence <BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>&gt; From: james.moritz@btopenworld.com<BR>&gt; To: rsgb_lf_grou=
p@blacksheep.org<BR>&gt; Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 13:33:07 +0100<BR>&gt; Sub=
ject: LF: Re: WOLF/WSPR Sound card issues<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Dear Dave,<BR>&=
gt; <BR>&gt; AC 97 <BR>&gt; (http://download.intel.com/support/motherboard=
s/desktop/sb/ac97_r23.pdf ) <BR>&gt; specifies 48kHz as the basic, obligat=
ory sample rate for compliant sound <BR>&gt; cards, so yours should certai=
nly be able to do it - to find more info, you <BR>&gt; could try looking=
 for the audio codec chip on the motherboard - usually a <BR>&gt; very tin=
y square 48pin thing near the audio connectors, and searching using <BR>&g=
t; its type number. But I guess what sample rate is actually used will dep=
end <BR>&gt; on software, drivers and so forth - perhaps someone with expe=
rience of PC <BR>&gt; sound card programming could advise. Looking at the=
 audio settings in the <BR>&gt; Windows control panel may well tell you wh=
at sample rates are possible. <BR>&gt; Also, some software allows you to=
 select different sample rates, for <BR>&gt; instance Spectrum Lab, but no=
t Argo as far as I know.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; The errors you are getting in th=
e measured frequency seem to be enormous - 2 <BR>&gt; or 3%, which would=
 certainly give rise to problems.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Cheers, Jim Moritz<BR>&=
gt; 73 de M0BMU<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; ----- Original Message ----- <BR>&gt; Fro=
m: "Dave Sergeant" &lt;dave@davesergeant.com&gt;<BR>&gt; To: &lt;rsgb_lf_g=
roup@blacksheep.org&gt;<BR>&gt; Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 11:59=
 AM<BR>&gt; Subject: LF: WOLF/WSPR Sound card issues<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>=
&gt; It seems that both WOLF and WSPR are<BR>&gt; &gt; designed for curren=
t sound cards which have 48,000 and 96,000 clock<BR>&gt; &gt; rates. Mine=
 is obviously from the old stable so has 44,100 etc rates.<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR=
>&gt; &gt; For information it is the sound card interface built into the<B=
R>&gt; &gt; motherboard, an ASR Rock K7S41GX dating from 2003 with generic=
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Dear all,

aural reception of EI0CF again around 23.50 UTC (September 29th) on
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peaking 559, in eastern Bavaria, JN68GN.

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hi Jim / group

Ok.   I've put it on air with some preliminary values.   The WSPR signal is
on 503.850kHz  and its running 6db down on the 15 minute beacon at 50% duty
cycle.  Teh hiuh duty cycle is for my local monitoring purposes - save
haviign to wait too long.

When its had a run at this setting, I can reduce the duty cycle a bit (the
S/W hasn't been tested at lower DCy yet) and could increase power a bit.
Don't really want to run at full power, mainly in the interest of longevity
of the PA and my leccy bill!

The WSPR slots are currently at  0,2,6,10,14,22,26,28,32,36,40,44,46,52,56
minutes past the hour, with the orther signal at 4,19,34,49 minutes past.

Any changes are just a case of reprogramming the PIC EE Data

Andy
www.g4jnt.com

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2009/9/19 James Moritz <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>

> Dear Andy,
>
> I would suggest a frequency between 503.825 and 503.900, to avoid the QRM
> around 504kHz some people experience, and give a bit of tolerance for
> receiver frequency errors, which are sometimes suprisingly large. For some
> reason, the frequencies below 503.9 seem to be less widely used. But since
> there are only about half a dozen stations transmitting in this mode, there
> is plenty of space.
>
> A 25% or 33% duty cycle seems to be frequent enough to catch most
> "openings" - probably less would be OK. As for power, I would suggest
> running as much as possible - monitoring signal level of a strong beacon  is
> easier than a weak one, and a relatively high power will give the greatest
> chance of being received by the maximum number of stations under the maximum
> range of conditions. You could argue that the presence of a "strong" beacon
> would sometimes prevent reception of very weak signals nearby in frequency,
> but since this only can happen 25% or 33% of the time, and the signal is not
> so strong at a few 100 mW ERP,  it is probably not a serious objection in
> practice.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
>

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<div>hi Jim / group</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>Ok.=A0=A0 I&#39;ve=A0put it on air with some preliminary values.=A0=
=A0=A0The WSPR signal is on=A0503.850kHz=A0 and its running 6db down on th=
e 15 minute beacon at 50% duty cycle.=A0 Teh hiuh duty cycle is for my loc=
al monitoring purposes - save haviign to wait too long.</div>

<div>=A0</div>
<div>When its had a run at this setting, I=A0can reduce the duty cycle a=
 bit (the S/W hasn&#39;t been tested at lower DCy yet) and could increase=
 power a bit.=A0 Don&#39;t really want to run at full power, mainly in the=
 interest of longevity of the PA and my leccy bill!</div>

<div>=A0</div>
<div>The WSPR slots are currently at=A0 0,2,6,10,14,22,26,28,32,36,40,44,4=
6,52,56=A0=A0 minutes past the hour, with the orther signal at 4,19,34,49=
 minutes past.</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>Any changes are just a case of reprogramming the PIC EE Data</div>
<div><br clear=3D"all">Andy<br><a href=3D"http://www.g4jnt.com">www.g4jnt.=
com</a><br><br>this email has been scanned for political correctness by th=
e nanny state<br><br><br></div>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/9/19 James Moritz <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a=
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</a>&gt;</span><br>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8e=
x; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">Dear Andy,<br><br>I would sugg=
est a frequency between 503.825 and 503.900, to avoid the QRM around 504kH=
z some people experience, and give a bit of tolerance for receiver frequen=
cy errors, which are sometimes suprisingly large. For some reason, the fre=
quencies below 503.9 seem to be less widely used. But since there are only=
 about half a dozen stations transmitting in this mode, there is plenty of=
 space.<br>
<br>A 25% or 33% duty cycle seems to be frequent enough to catch most &quo=
t;openings&quot; - probably less would be OK. As for power, I would sugges=
t running as much as possible - monitoring signal level of a strong beacon=
 =A0is easier than a weak one, and a relatively high power will give the=
 greatest chance of being received by the maximum number of stations under=
 the maximum range of conditions. You could argue that the presence of a=
 &quot;strong&quot; beacon would sometimes prevent reception of very weak=
 signals nearby in frequency, but since this only can happen 25% or 33% of=
 the time, and the signal is not so strong at a few 100 mW ERP, =A0it is=
 probably not a serious objection in practice.<br>
<br>Cheers, Jim Moritz<br>73 de M0BMU <br><br></blockquote></div><br>

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Dear Laurence, Roman, LF Group,

I shut the beacon down at 0446utc this morning. The frequency was 503.975kHz 
as advertised. Thanks for the overnight reports, nice to see spots from 
W1TAG again and from Russia for the first time. I transmitted in about 75% 
of the 2 minute periods between about 1940 and 2050utc, but saw nothing like 
a signal in the BY3 grabber, although the frequency seemed mostly clear. 
Conditions were relatively noisy here with more QRN than the previous night.

The antenna is a top-loaded vertical with 3 wires in a sort of Y shape in 
the horizontal plane. Where the wires meet, it is supported by a 10m 
fibreglass mast. To "jack up" the antenna, I have an old "cherry picker" (or 
aerial access platform or whatever you wish to call it) which is slowly 
sinking into my lawn. The bottom of the mast is bolted to the cherry picker 
where the operator's basket used to be, so the whole mast can be raised into 
the air. This allows a total maximum height of about 19m if I am feeling 
brave; last night the middle of the antenna span was raised to about 17m. 
Previous FS measurements have shown this gives about 3 - 4dB improvement in 
ERP due to the increased height and radiation resistance, along with a 
slight reduction in loss resistance. The total length of wire in the antenna 
stays the same, but gets further from the ground, so antenna capacitance 
actually reduces slightly. The things we do to try and get a better 
signal...

Cross-band QSOs from M0BMU are unfortunately difficult at the moment due to 
the high QRM levels on the lower HF bands here - I am hoping some work on 
dedicated HF receiving antennas here will improve this soon.

The 504kHz signal seems to be present in many widely-seperated QTHs - don't 
know about W/VE though? It seems to be different at each location. Here it 
is a rather weak carrier with no audible modulation, on the spectrogram it 
can be seen to have a couple of stronger spectral lines and several weaker 
ones spread over a range of a few Hz. These seem to vary over time, possibly 
due to QSB. They can't all be RTE/Atlantic 252 harmonics - 504kHz is an 
integer multiple of 9kHz, so many opportunities for internal or external 
intermods due to broadcast stations. 504kHz is also a multiple of 8kHz, as 
is 136kHz - it was suggested at one time that the weak carriers audible in 
many places on 136.0kHz could be harmonics of the 8kHz clock rate used in 
wired telecomms.

I would be quite interested to try WOLF again - although it needs more 
careful coordination with frequencies than WSPR.

Roman, there are some pdf files on the UK 500kHz group site about some of my 
LF/MF gear - you are welcome to use those if you like.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU



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Thanks Dave. Thanks also to others who have tried to detect my flea power
500kHz WSPR station.

Clearly work is needed to up the ERP and will be done progressively during
the autumn.  I will give the current set-up one last go overnight tonight
then it will be down until Oct 6th.
It's the weekend, so there might be a few more people listening?

73s
Roger G3XBM



2009/9/19 Dave G3WCB <ganymede444@btopenworld.com>

>  No luck last night Roger. Just Jim and Jim. You need to have a go at your
> antenna when you get back!
>
>
>
> 0640 -12  2.8   0.503956  0 G7NKS IO92 27
>
> 0642  14  2.0   0.503841  0 M0BMU IO91 33
>
> 0648 -12  3.0   0.503959  0 G7NKS IO92 27
>
> 0650  15  2.0   0.503841  0 M0BMU IO91 33
>
> 0656  14  2.0   0.503841  0 M0BMU IO91 33
>
> 0702  14  2.0   0.503841  0 M0BMU IO91 33
>
> 0704 -14  2.8   0.503967  0 G7NKS IO92 27
> 0706  14  2.1   0.503841  0 M0BMU IO91 33
>
> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
>
> -----Original Message-----
> *From:* owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:
> owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]*On Behalf Of *Roger Lapthorn
> *Sent:* 18 September 2009 23:01
> *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> *Subject:* LF: 500kHz QRPp WSPR overnight
>
> Tonight is probably my last chance to receive any new WSPR reports before I
> go on holiday, so I'll leave the beacon running until around 8am UK time
> tomorrow on 33% TX. If there are any night owls around, I'd appreciate a few
> receivers staying on 500kHz just in case you might hear me.
>
> 73s
> Roger G3XBM
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------
> http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/
> http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
> G3XBM    GQRP 1678      ISWL G11088
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Thanks Dave. Thanks also to others who have tried to detect my flea power=
 500kHz WSPR station.<br><br>Clearly work is needed to up the ERP and will=
 be done progressively during the autumn.=A0 I will give the current set-u=
p one last go overnight tonight then it will be down until Oct 6th.<br>
It&#39;s the weekend, so there might be a few more people listening?<br><b=
r>73s <br>Roger G3XBM<br><br><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/9/19=
 Dave G3WCB <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ganymede444@btopenworl=
d.com">ganymede444@btopenworld.com</a>&gt;</span><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204,=
 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">



<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">
<p style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Times Ne=
w Roman" size=3D"3"><span>No luck last night Roger.=20
Just Jim and Jim. You need to have a go at your antenna when you get=20
back!</span></font></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Times Ne=
w Roman" size=3D"3"></font>=A0</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Courier=
 New" size=3D"3">0640 -12<span>=A0=20
</span>2.8<span>=A0=A0 </span>0.503956<span>=A0 </span>0 G7NKS IO92 27</fo=
nt></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Courier=
 New" size=3D"3">0642<span>=A0 </span>14<span>=A0 </span>2.0<span>=A0=A0=
 </span>0.503841<span>=A0 </span>0 M0BMU IO91 33</font></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Courier=
 New" size=3D"3">0648 -12<span>=A0=20
</span>3.0<span>=A0=A0 </span>0.503959<span>=A0 </span>0 G7NKS IO92 27</fo=
nt></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Courier=
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 </span>0.503841<span>=A0 </span>0 M0BMU IO91 33</font></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Courier=
 New" size=3D"3">0656<span>=A0 </span>14<span>=A0 </span>2.0<span>=A0=A0=
 </span>0.503841<span>=A0 </span>0 M0BMU IO91 33</font></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Courier=
 New" size=3D"3">0702<span>=A0 </span>14<span>=A0 </span>2.0<span>=A0=A0=
 </span>0.503841<span>=A0 </span>0 M0BMU IO91 33</font></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Courier=
 New" size=3D"3">0704 -14<span>=A0=20
</span>2.8<span>=A0=A0 </span>0.503967<span>=A0 </span>0 G7NKS IO92 27</fo=
nt></p>
<div><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: &#39;Microsoft Sans Seri=
f&#39;;"><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Courier New">0706<span>=A0=20
</span>14<span>=A0 </span>2.1<span>=A0=A0 </span>0.503841<span>=A0 </span>=
0 M0BMU IO91 33</font></span></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: &#39;Microsoft Sans Seri=
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iv>
<div><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: &#39;Microsoft Sans Seri=
f&#39;;"><span><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Times New Roman">73, Dave=
=20
G3WCB IO91RM</font></span></span></div></font></div><div><div></div><div=
 class=3D"h5">
<blockquote>
  <div dir=3D"ltr" align=3D"left"><font face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2">-----Or=
iginal Message-----<br><b>From:</b>=20
  <a href=3D"mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" target=3D"_blank">=
owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a>=20
  [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" target=3D"=
_blank">owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a>]<b>On Behalf Of </b>Roger=
=20
  Lapthorn<br><b>Sent:</b> 18 September 2009 23:01<br><b>To:</b>=20
  <a href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" target=3D"_blank">rsgb_l=
f_group@blacksheep.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> LF: 500kHz QRPp WSPR=20
  overnight<br><br></font></div>Tonight is probably my last chance to rece=
ive=20
  any new WSPR reports before I go on holiday, so I&#39;ll leave the beaco=
n running=20
  until around 8am UK time tomorrow on 33% TX. If there are any night owls=
=20
  around, I&#39;d appreciate a few receivers staying on 500kHz just in cas=
e you=20
  might hear me.<br><br>73s<br>Roger G3XBM<br clear=3D"all"><br>----------=
---------------------------------------------------<br><a href=3D"http://g=
3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/</=
a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.g3xbm.co.uk" target=3D"_blank">http://www.g3xbm.co.u=
k</a><br>G3XBM =A0=20
  =A0GQRP 1678 =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL G11088<br></blockquote>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>----------=
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3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/">http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/</a><br><a href=3D"h=
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James Moritz wrote:

> Dear Jim, Roger, LF Group,
>
> The M0BMU WOLF beacon is now running on 503.500kHz - I don't know what 
> frequency G7NKS plans to be on , but would suggest about 100Hz 
> spacing. If you are at reasonably close distance, and set up on the 
> right receive frequency, you should be seeing a trace about 20Hz wide 
> in the centre of the WOLF waterfall. However, for more distant 
> stations, you can expect successful decodes even when there is no 
> visible trace. It should be interesting to see how WOLF fares when 
> trying to receive a weaker signal close to a stronger one.
>
> Any reports will be very welcome.


Dear Jim, LF  Group,
Yesterday  evening/night i had all my rx  boxes off . I just read  the 
new posts on the reflector. among them,  it was an email from John , GM4SLV
John was saying it was too easy for him  to decode   WOLF  transmision 
from Jim. I  thought immediately it is going to be too difficult for me 
to do the same ..
but it was a nice surprise:
2009-09-10 19:36:31 >WOLF10  -r 11025 -f 1000 -t 3 -w 0.0000
t:  24 f:-2.129 a:-0.7 dp: 70.4 ci: 5 cj:257 27JXL*GCGV1KT0E ?
t:  48 f: 1.439 a: 0.1 dp: 70.4 ci:13 cj:290 5 CL/.XMV. Q7GO ?
t:  96 f:-0.322 a: 1.2 dp: 66.3 ci:11 cj: 46 X4*H4Y*08IQ/13X ?
t: 192 f: 0.303 pm:28.63 jm:286 q: -0.5 -1.2 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t: 288 f: 0.312 pm:32.73 jm:286 q:  2.5  2.1 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t: 384 f: 0.322 pm:45.78 jm:286 q:  2.0  2.2 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t: 480 f: 0.342 pm:62.10 jm:286 q: -0.3 -1.5 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t: 576 f: 0.342 pm:83.95 jm:286 q:  2.7  1.8 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t: 672 f: 0.342 pm:86.72 jm:286 q:  3.4  2.6 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t: 768 f: 0.361 pm:103.4 jm:287 q:  2.6  1.9 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t: 864 f: 0.371 pm:116.4 jm:287 q:  3.2  0.9 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t: 960 f: 0.371 pm:125.2 jm:287 q:  5.3  3.5 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t:1056 f: 0.381 pm:148.5 jm:287 q:  4.4  4.3 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t:1152 f: 0.381 pm:151.3 jm:287 q:  5.9  5.7 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t:1248 f: 0.381 pm:152.7 jm:287 q:  6.2  6.0 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -

                                         73 de peter, sq7mpj

qth: Lodz /jo91rs/




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Hello James, OM & LF!

Jim!
We are need that QSO!
Pse make any vertical 5-10m high for rx 40m!
I think it will be good.
Or loop/magnetic loop for 40m band rx!
Prop on 500 is wonderful! Fantastic!
10m high antenna and solid copy in Moscow!
Will be ready to x-band pse.

I'm very interesting to 504 Khz stations.
Some time I copy 539 in Moscow. China or east Russia I think! not RTE!
Do not correlation with the G|GM stations here.

73!
Roman

* James Moritz <james.moritz@btopenworld.com> [Mon, 7 Sep 2009 14:02:26 
+0100]:
> Dear Laurence, Roman, LF Group,
>
> I shut the beacon down at 0446utc this morning. The frequency was
> 503.975kHz
> as advertised. Thanks for the overnight reports, nice to see spots 
from
> W1TAG again and from Russia for the first time. I transmitted in about
> 75%
> of the 2 minute periods between about 1940 and 2050utc, but saw 
nothing
> like
> a signal in the BY3 grabber, although the frequency seemed mostly 
clear.
> Conditions were relatively noisy here with more QRN than the previous
> night.
>
> The antenna is a top-loaded vertical with 3 wires in a sort of Y shape
> in
> the horizontal plane. Where the wires meet, it is supported by a 10m
> fibreglass mast. To "jack up" the antenna, I have an old "cherry 
picker"
> (or
> aerial access platform or whatever you wish to call it) which is 
slowly
> sinking into my lawn. The bottom of the mast is bolted to the cherry
> picker
> where the operator's basket used to be, so the whole mast can be 
raised
> into
> the air. This allows a total maximum height of about 19m if I am 
feeling
> brave; last night the middle of the antenna span was raised to about
> 17m.
> Previous FS measurements have shown this gives about 3 - 4dB 
improvement
> in
> ERP due to the increased height and radiation resistance, along with a
> slight reduction in loss resistance. The total length of wire in the
> antenna
> stays the same, but gets further from the ground, so antenna 
capacitance
> actually reduces slightly. The things we do to try and get a better
> signal...
>
> Cross-band QSOs from M0BMU are unfortunately difficult at the moment 
due
> to
> the high QRM levels on the lower HF bands here - I am hoping some work
> on
> dedicated HF receiving antennas here will improve this soon.
>
> The 504kHz signal seems to be present in many widely-seperated QTHs -
> don't
> know about W/VE though? It seems to be different at each location. 
Here
> it
> is a rather weak carrier with no audible modulation, on the 
spectrogram
> it
> can be seen to have a couple of stronger spectral lines and several
> weaker
> ones spread over a range of a few Hz. These seem to vary over time,
> possibly
> due to QSB. They can't all be RTE/Atlantic 252 harmonics - 504kHz is 
an
> integer multiple of 9kHz, so many opportunities for internal or 
external
> intermods due to broadcast stations. 504kHz is also a multiple of 
8kHz,
> as
> is 136kHz - it was suggested at one time that the weak carriers 
audible
> in
> many places on 136.0kHz could be harmonics of the 8kHz clock rate used
> in
> wired telecomms.
>
> I would be quite interested to try WOLF again - although it needs more
> careful coordination with frequencies than WSPR.
>
> Roman, there are some pdf files on the UK 500kHz group site about some
> of my
> LF/MF gear - you are welcome to use those if you like.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
>




--
Roman RW3ADB.


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John P-G wrote:

> Hello Dave, LF
>
> A new WSPR one for me!
>
> 1852 -26  1.2   0.503808  0 G3YXM IO92 27
>
> Nice to see you on the mode from Shetland,
>
> Cheers,
>
> John
> GM4SLV
>
Hello Dave, LF  Group,
I will follow John, GM4SLV  and  write the same statement: :
Nice to see you on the mode from Poland

1946 -23  0.4   0.503812  0 G3YXM IO92 27
1946  -2  0.9   0.503931  0 SM6BHZ JO57 33

I also asked  another ham , Matt, sq7dqx  ( he  lives  also in Lodz )  
to  start  wspr on MF  and he also  got a positive decoding of ur signal
( both decodes are sent to wspr database)
It must be a good propagation  tonight on 500 khz
Btw,  you just took away my 'odx' label from James, M0BMU   as far as 
the wspr signals on 500 kHz are concerned but i do believe Jim  will 
forgive you :)
at this moment it is 1450 km  with 27dbm on your side  with my modest rx 
setup
11 turns  1sq. m loop "sitting' on my balcony  , followed by a simple 
two stage ( J310, BC109 )  buffer/amplif.  and ft857d

                                                                           
73 de Piotr, sq7mpj
qth: Lodz /jo91rs/



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Thank you, Warren.  I will try again this evening and see if I can get a=
 screen capture.

73
John F5VLF

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On 25/09/2009 at 16:40 Warren Ziegler wrote:

>John,
>
>   XGJ  is on 137.7798 here but sunset is not until 22:30 UTC.
>
>--=20
>73 Warren K2ORS
>                WD2XGJ
>                WD2XSH/23
>                WE2XEB/2
>                WE2XGR/1
>
>On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 3:29 PM, John RABSON <john.rabson@numeo.fr> wrote=
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>> At 1928z.
>>
>> F5VLF
>>
>>
>>
>>





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hi Marcin
last night I am no qrv in 137 khz.....
anytime I am at your disposal
73 s
F8boj Claude JN16WA
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Hi Claude
I copy last night signal on 137,740kHz. Its yours?
Vy 73!
Marcin SQ2BXI


hi Marcin and LF
GM is f8boj error frequence in qrss3 change frequency for 137740hz  =
 qsl...!
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Hello Jean Pierre
Your grabber regularly copy my signal:
http://www.sp2kds.pl/images/stories/f1afj.jpg
Vy 73!
Marcin SQ2BXI

Hello Marcin ,

Tnx for info , my antenna are at QTF 295=B0 (USA)

73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

Marcin a =E9crit :
> Dear Jean Pierre, LF
> It is HF70W QRSS 60 signal.
> Vy 73!
> Marcin SQ2BXI
>
>
>> Hello LF'ers ,
>>
>> I copy on 137,778 unidentified signal ?
>> 22:00 =3D> 23:00 utc ( see on picture )
>>
>> 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj
>>
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tim hague wrote:
> Roger Lapthorn wrote:
>> It is currently on around 503.890kHz. Just set your RX to 502.4kHz in 
>> USB mode with the WSPR software and it will find me if at a readable 
>> level.
>>
>> 73s
>> Roger G3XBM
>>
>> 2009/9/17 Chris <c.ashby435@btinternet.com 
>> <mailto:c.ashby435@btinternet.com>>
>>
>>     Hi Roger,
>>     Please remind us which frequency exactly it is on.
>>     Thanks and 73,
>>     Chris, G4AYT.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> -------------------------------------------------------------
>> http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/
>> http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
>> G3XBM    GQRP 1678      ISWL G11088
> Will leave my Rx on all night, now connected the FT2000 to the 
> welbrook loop
> Tim AFJ
> IO92OB
>
>
Copying SM7BHZ, best Dx so far on 500kHz


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As I have the RX up and copying Jim, are there *any other 137kHz WSPR
stations who could come on now* too? It would be good to see who else I
could copy on this band on WSPR. Don't have long as I am meant to be packing
a suitcase!

135.5kHz USB dial frequency

73s
Roger G3XBM

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http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
G3XBM    GQRP 1678      ISWL G11088

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As I have the RX up and copying Jim, are there <b><u>any other 137kHz WSPR=
 stations who could come on now</u></b> too? It would be good to see who=
 else I could copy on this band on WSPR. Don&#39;t have long as I am meant=
 to be packing a suitcase!<br>
<br>135.5kHz USB dial frequency<br><br>73s<br>Roger G3XBM<br clear=3D"all"=
><br>-- <br>-------------------------------------------------------------<=
br><a href=3D"http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/">http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.co=
m/</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.g3xbm.co.uk">http://www.g3xbm.co.uk</a><br>G3XBM =A0=
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* Lubos OK2BVG <bvgbob@hotmail.com> [Sat, 19 Sep 2009 22:55:28 +0200]:
>
> Hello Anatolij, LF!
> I just see your signal QRSS60.
>
> Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

Actually visible onto RA9CUA grabber:
http://ra9cua.nm.ru/

unstable S - UA9CS signal.

 Roman

PS- My grabber on 500 today.



>
> _________________________________________________________________
> P=C5=99et=C3=A1hn=C4=9Bte si fotografie p=C5=99=C3=ADmo do chatu v Messe=
nger. Jak se do d=C4=9Bl=C3=A1.
> http://download.live.com/messenger
>
> * "090919_WPF.JPG"



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Jay,

I know K1JT is active on 500kHz RX, but I think Andy had a fair point 
about other people not setting their WSPR data correctly, judging from 
the spot below:-

2009-09-20 18:16 SM6BHZ 0.503926 +12 0  JO57wq  2 K1JT FN20


With the best will in the world I don't think K1JT is receiving Gus at 
+12dB on 500kHz, at 18:00UTC when most of the path is in daylight :-)

John
GM4SLV


jrusgrove@comcast.net wrote:
> Andy
> 
> K1JT, AA1A, W1XP, W1VD and W1TAG have been watching for EU WSPR. All display 
> correct station information.
> 
> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2




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If you could SEE my TX,  "antenna" and ATU you would realise how amazed I am
at this report from G3XVL. My antenna is literally 15m of low horizontal
wire with about 2m of it vertical, a central heating ground and an ATU on
the bedroom table made from a ferrite rod and fed with 700mW from a
2N3906/2N3904. This proves that 500kHz is possible with a
*really*minimalist station. I can only imagine what will be possible
with some
effort on my part.

Today has been one of the most enjoyable since I got my licence in 1967.
Thanks to everyone on this list for encouraging me.

73s
Roger G3XBM

2009/9/13 Chris McCarthy <chris.decibel@googlemail.com>

> Roger,
> I can beat that your reception report from Ipswich, Suffolk
>
>   2009-09-13 20:12   G3XBM   0.503922   -27   1   JO02dg   0.001   G3XVL
>  JO02nb   61   112 well done,
> Chris G3XVL
>
>
>
> 2009/9/13 Roger Lapthorn <rogerlapthorn@gmail.com>
>
> All of 3kms away (whoa DX!!) but I just got my first WSPR report on 500kHz:
>>
>>    2009-09-13 20:04   G3XBM   0.503908   -6   0   JO02dg   0.001   G6ALB
>>  JO02dg   0   0   2009-09-13 20:02   G3XBM   0.503910   -12   -1
>>  JO02dg   0.001   G6ALB   JO02dg   0   0
>> At least the signal is getting across the fields at the back of the house.
>> Andrew G6ALB is in the next village. You can see by my report that I have a
>> LOT of work to do....
>>
>> 73s
>> Roger G3XBM
>> --
>> -------------------------------------------------------------
>> http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/
>> http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
>> G3XBM    GQRP 1678      ISWL G11088
>>
>
>


-- 
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<div>If you could SEE my TX, =A0&quot;antenna&quot; and ATU=A0you would re=
alise how amazed I am at this report from G3XVL.=A0My antenna=A0is literal=
ly 15m of low horizontal wire with about 2m of it vertical, a central heat=
ing ground and an ATU on the bedroom table made from a ferrite rod and fed=
 with 700mW from a 2N3906/2N3904. This proves that 500kHz is possible with=
 a <u>really</u> minimalist station. I can only imagine what will be possi=
ble with some effort on my part.</div>

<div>=A0</div>
<div>Today has been one of the most enjoyable since I got my licence in 19=
67.=A0 Thanks to everyone on this list for encouraging me.</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>73s</div>
<div>Roger G3XBM<br><br></div>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/9/13 Chris McCarthy <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;=
<a href=3D"mailto:chris.decibel@googlemail.com">chris.decibel@googlemail.c=
om</a>&gt;</span><br>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8e=
x; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">Roger,<br>I can beat that your=
 reception report from Ipswich, Suffolk<br><br>
<table>
<tbody>
<tr>
<td align=3D"right">2009-09-13 20:12=A0</td>
<td align=3D"left">=A0G3XBM=A0</td>
<td align=3D"right">=A00.503922=A0</td>
<td align=3D"right">=A0-27=A0</td>
<td align=3D"right">=A01=A0</td>
<td align=3D"left">=A0JO02dg=A0</td>
<td align=3D"right">=A00.001=A0</td>
<td align=3D"left">=A0G3XVL=A0</td>
<td align=3D"left">=A0JO02nb=A0</td>
<td align=3D"right">=A061=A0</td>
<td align=3D"right">=A0112=A0</td></tr></tbody></table>well done,<br>Chris=
 G3XVL<br><br><br><br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/9/13 Roger Lapthorn <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;=
<a href=3D"mailto:rogerlapthorn@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">rogerlapthorn=
@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>=20
<div>
<div></div>
<div class=3D"h5"><br>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid; MARGIN: 0pt=
 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">All of 3kms away=
 (whoa DX!!) but I just got my first WSPR report on 500kHz:<br><br>
<table>
<tbody>
<tr>
<td align=3D"right"><font size=3D"2">=A02009-09-13 20:04=A0</font></td>
<td align=3D"left"><font size=3D"2">=A0G3XBM=A0</font></td>
<td align=3D"right"><font size=3D"2">=A00.503908=A0</font></td>
<td align=3D"right"><font size=3D"2">=A0-6=A0</font></td>
<td align=3D"right"><font size=3D"2">=A00=A0</font></td>
<td align=3D"left"><font size=3D"2">=A0JO02dg=A0</font></td>
<td align=3D"right"><font size=3D"2">=A00.001=A0</font></td>
<td align=3D"left"><font size=3D"2">=A0G6ALB=A0</font></td>
<td align=3D"left"><font size=3D"2">=A0JO02dg=A0</font></td>
<td align=3D"right"><font size=3D"2">=A00=A0</font></td>
<td align=3D"right"><font size=3D"2">=A00=A0</font></td></tr>
<tr>
<td align=3D"right"><font size=3D"2">=A02009-09-13 20:02=A0</font></td>
<td align=3D"left"><font size=3D"2">=A0G3XBM=A0</font></td>
<td align=3D"right"><font size=3D"2">=A00.503910=A0</font></td>
<td align=3D"right"><font size=3D"2">=A0-12=A0</font></td>
<td align=3D"right"><font size=3D"2">=A0-1=A0</font></td>
<td align=3D"left"><font size=3D"2">=A0JO02dg=A0</font></td>
<td align=3D"right"><font size=3D"2">=A00.001=A0</font></td>
<td align=3D"left"><font size=3D"2">=A0G6ALB=A0</font></td>
<td align=3D"left"><font size=3D"2">=A0JO02dg=A0</font></td>
<td align=3D"right"><font size=3D"2">=A00=A0</font></td>
<td align=3D"right"><font size=3D"2">=A00=A0</font></td></tr></tbody></tab=
le><br clear=3D"all">At least the signal is getting across the fields at=
 the back of the house. Andrew G6ALB is in the next village. You can see=
 by my report that I have a LOT of work to do....<br>
<br>73s<br>Roger G3XBM<br><font color=3D"#888888">-- <br>-----------------=
--------------------------------------------<br><a href=3D"http://g3xbm-qr=
p.blogspot.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/</a><br><=
a href=3D"http://www.g3xbm.co.uk/" target=3D"_blank">http://www.g3xbm.co.u=
k</a><br>
G3XBM =A0 =A0GQRP 1678 =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL G11088<br></font></blockquote></div=
></div></div><br></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all">
<div></div><br>-- <br>----------------------------------------------------=
---------<br><a href=3D"http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/">http://g3xbm-qrp.b=
logspot.com/</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.g3xbm.co.uk">http://www.g3xbm.co=
.uk</a><br>
G3XBM =A0 =A0GQRP 1678 =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL G11088<br>

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James Cowburn wrote:
> Dear All,
> 
> Had a go with the WOLF but no decodes though

There seems to be a pattern - no one with a strong local signal can
decode it, but us in the far distance have no trouble! Perhaps the
decoder needs lots of noise to help it along - hi!

I'd like to see if WOLF is better than WSPR for you QRPpp, at this
distance up to Shetland. Certainly Jim's 2W is making it very easily.

> For now I am back on WSPR 502.4

I'm now trying both in parallel, on the same PC and the same soundcard,
wonder if it'll work?

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Hi again Roelof....
I did not see the message from Jim.... can you forward it to me..? 
73...Jordan...


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> Dear Jim,
>
> Thank you for your comments.
> I will try the circuit as in your description.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Roelof, pa0rdt
> 



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Hi LF group
=A0
Listened at abt 21:00 Clock time 30th Oct 2009 on 0.5013 mc/s to a fb rag=
 chew on CW all stations copied, Finbar in some QSB but abt 90% copied her=
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<table cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" border=3D"0" ><tr><td valign=3D=
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<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Listened at abt 21:00 Clock time 30th Oct 2009 on 0.5013 mc/s to a fb=
 rag chew on CW all stations copied, Finbar in some QSB but abt 90% copied=
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sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
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<DIV>73 petefmt<BR></DIV></td></tr></table><br>



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Merci bien!!

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Jim
 
 
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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Michel F5WK
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>
> Just set up new Ant system, hopefully a lot less lossy so I should not be
as QRPppp.  Operating on WSPR 502.4
>  

1852 -25  1.3   0.503940 -1 G7NKS IO92 23


First time decode !

73, Michel / f5wk




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Hi LF,
capture WPF 
Henny pa3cpm
73s                                                                    Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
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Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld.

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi LF,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>capture&nbsp;<FONT face="Times New Roman"   size=3>WPF&nbsp;</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>Henny 
pa3cpm</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><FONT face="Times New Roman"   size=3>73s&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
</FONT></FONT>Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden 
verzonden:<BR>WPF 26-09.jpg<BR><BR>Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan 
ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde 
bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail 
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WSPR record for G7NKS. Looking for others!

1658  -8  0.8   0.503942 -1 G7NKS IO92 23
1720  -4  0.7   0.503944 -1 G7NKS IO92 23
1732  -5  0.9   0.503942 -1 G7NKS IO92 23
1740  -4  0.9   0.503942  1 G7NKS IO92 23
1749  -7  1.6   0.503948 -1 G7NKS IO92 23


73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor, S.E. England


  -----Original Message-----
  From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Roger Lapthorn
  Sent: 16 September 2009 15:48
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
  Subject: LF: G3XBM 500kHz WSPR beacon back on - any stronger?


  Good Folks,

  Have made some quick changes to the 500kHz antenna and ground system (now
using my 10m halo and feed now as a short vertical with top capacity loading
and using the 15m long-wire as a radial along with the central heating
ground) and am putting the WSPR beacon back on shortly. Interested to know
if the changes have made much difference. Antenna current is higher so I
hope it will radiate a some more. Reports and screenshots gratefully
received.

  On RX, G7NKS is about the same S/N as this morning before the changes. Not
quite sure what this is telling me.

  BTW, I know I drift upwards about 50Hz for about 20 mins as the
transverter xtal oscillator settles.

  73s
  Roger G3XBM

  -------------------------------------------------------------
  http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/
  http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
  G3XBM    GQRP 1678      ISWL G11088

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Strong signal,
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best 73s
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Dear Joerg
OK! We will be specially qrv for you to saturday from 11:00 UTC.
--
Vy 73!
Marcin SQ2BXI



Dear Marcin,

will there be 136 kHz activities Saturday morning/noon?
Only during office hours access to "my" antenna, sri.
Could try to be qrv around 1100 to 1300 lt but only good old hand made
straight code.
Hw?

73 good luck
Joerg, DL3NRV




> -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: "Marcin" <bxi@go2.pl>
> Gesendet: 16.09.09 11:51:48
> An: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Betreff: LF: Special event HF70W


> Dear LF
> Special event HF70W will be activity in night saturday/sunday 19/20
> September and 4/5 October.
> This friday (18 September) worked on 137,700kHz, QRSS3  from 20:00=
 UTC.
> --
> Vy 73!
> Marcin SQ2BXI
> HF70W - SP2KDS Team
>
>




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Dear Laurence, LF Group,

The 468kHz frequency does seem to be slated for Chinese Navtex broadcasts - 
apparently 424kHz is being used for Japanese language Navtex too. This seems 
to coincide with a general shift to using 490kHz for Navtex weather 
forecasts instead of "local language" as it was originally supposed to be.

I beleive the international agreements relating to Navtex say that "no more 
than 1kW" should be used for Navtex broadcasts, and then only under 
exceptional circumstances, in order to minimise mutual QRM. but if you look 
at manufacturer's TX offerings, you will struggle to find one less than 1kW. 
Fun for DXers, I suppose, but not so clever when you actually need the info!

Several years ago when a 500kHz allocation was first mooted, I spent some 
time listening to 500kHz, and most nights used to hear Italian coast 
stations - IAR was one I think. They would appear on 500k and tell you to 
QSY to some nearby frequency. When you did so they would broadcast a long 
list of ships' callsigns, I presume who they had traffic for. But I never 
did hear any 2-way operating, and got the impression the whole thing was 
computer generated. I haven't heard these coast stations since about 2003, 
or maybe before.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU

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From: "Laurence BY3A-KL1X China" <hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com>
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Im asked whether 500kcs or  kHz etc is still in use here and yes it is - 
heres a TTT TTT Nav warning on 500.00 Khz at  Hr +18 from XSV Tianjin radio 
about 15 miles from me just a few mins ago.



I dont hear Ship to Ship or Ship to Shore on MF, or should I say I havent 
yet and none of my ships or platforms are equipped here, but the Chinese 
announced back in 2007 that 486 Khz (assigned) is to be used for a "National 
language channel" - Im not sure if this relates to safety traffic/navtex or 
gen bsct - or  whatever, but Tianjin is just increasing its output power on 
that freq to 5Kw, and dont I know it.




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M0BMU very clear at 503.840 WSPR:

193400   4  11  1.5  -896  0  M0BMU IO91 33

73 - IK1ODO - JN35sa



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Hi Lubos,

Thank you for your report.

73,

Gary - G4WGT.

2009/9/12 Lubos OK2BVG <bvgbob@hotmail.com>:
> Hello LF!
>
> 1940=A0=A0 5=A0 0.9=A0=A0 1.503925=A0 0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 1946=A0=A0 7=A0 0.8=A0=A0 1.503925=A0 0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 1950 -24=A0 1.2=A0=A0 1.503914=A0 0 G4WGT IO83 27
> 1952=A0=A0 0=A0 0.9=A0=A0 1.503925=A0 0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 1958=A0=A0 7=A0 0.9=A0=A0 1.503925=A0 0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
>
> 73!
>
> Lubos, OK2BVG
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> ________________________________
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Thanks Roelof..!

It looks like a fairly narrow band preamp with good Q...I guess it depends 
on the Q of the inductors...I'll put the design to good use..! 
73...Jordan....

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> Hello Jordan,
>
> Sorry for the delay, I just forgot to answer your question.
>
> In the attachment you will find the circuit diagram of a tuneable
> pre-amplifier.
> I have build several of these and the frequency response is quite narrow.
> The circuit has ample gain and using the rf-gain control, the tuned
> circuit is "damped", which broadens the response. The gain is realised by
> the impedance transformation of the tuned circuit, which results in
> considerable voltage gain. The amplifier is a voltage follower with an
> output impedance of 50 ohm.
>
> Best regards,
> Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt 



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While testing WSPR I noticed K1JT was 10.140234 at 2148 UTC. (-16dB)

Peter, G3LDO



John P-G wrote:
>
> Jay,
>
> I know K1JT is active on 500kHz RX, but I think Andy had a fair point 
> about other people not setting their WSPR data correctly, judging from 
> the spot below:-
>
> 2009-09-20 18:16 SM6BHZ 0.503926 +12 0    JO57wq    2 K1JT FN20
>
>
> With the best will in the world I don't think K1JT is receiving Gus at 
> +12dB on 500kHz, at 18:00UTC when most of the path is in daylight :-)
>
> John
> GM4SLV
>
>
> jrusgrove@comcast.net wrote:
>> Andy
>>
>> K1JT, AA1A, W1XP, W1VD and W1TAG have been watching for EU WSPR. All 
>> display correct station information.
>>
>> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>
>
>
>
>



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Thanks Gus you are my best Dx to date, just slightly further out than John
PG.

 

A bit more ant work today on matching and also making an umbrella antenna as
per design of M0BMU (thanks Jim).   Hopefully I can squeeze a bit more
efficiency out and persuade the TX to load into the system and not spool
back due to reactance

 

Next milestone is 1000km+

 

With best regards

 

 

Jim

 

 

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Hello LF,

 

one line tonight from G7NKS !

 

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 are my best Dx to date, just
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>A bit more ant=
 work today on matching and
also making an umbrella antenna as per design of M0BMU (thanks Jim).=
 &nbsp;&nbsp;Hopefully
I can squeeze a bit more efficiency out and persuade the TX to load in=
to the
system and not spool back due to reactance<o:p></o:p></span></font></p=
>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Next milestone=
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Graham,

Yes, ok on that, I have left it running but not really for any
purpose. It can still be useful, thanks.

Finally connected transverter up to the class D Tx & got no output,
then remembered it requires freq x2 input, still no output. Need to
carry out some checks now back in original mode & make sure it is
still working :-((

G...


2009/9/8 Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>:
> Gary,
>
> Leaving the=A0 beacon plotter=A0 running is quite=A0 useful as its givin=
g a plot
> of the background noise over time
>
> G ,,
>
>
> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html
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Early reports of my WSPR beacon from G3XVL and M0BMU suggest a VERY slight
improvement (2-3dB at best) has been achieved. Let's hope  a few others spot
me tonight.

73s
Roger G3XBM

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http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/
http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
G3XBM    GQRP 1678      ISWL G11088

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Early reports of my WSPR beacon from G3XVL and M0BMU suggest a VERY slight=
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Pretty strong in Bracknell Andy, nicely flattening the AGC .... see 
attached

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PS the RX is set to 136,8kHz USB. 

John

*********** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***********

On 22/09/2009 at 17:52 Claude Berthebaud wrote:

>Good evening John
>Can you give me your conditions of reception in any case thank you for 
>control at the moment I can not go below 20w hi ..
>thank you again
>F8boj Claude JN16WA
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>> Still 30dB over and 569 by ear at 1545z.
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>> F5VLF
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>> On 22/09/2009 at 17:35 John RABSON <john.rabson@numeo.fr> wrote:
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>>>At 1532z.
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Bless you Dex! Many thanks.


> http://lwca.org/library/reference/LORAN/loran_lines.htm


>> Help! At one time there was a list of Loran lines visible within the 
>> 2200m allocation but it seems to have vanished. Is there still a source 
>> of this valuable info available somewhere on the web?
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Thanks for the report Dave

I closed the tx as the  audio feed to the  tx was dropping  out  .capt=
ured a frequency jump  .. only  wspr  , not speclab using the same  ca=
rd .. . why ive no idea ..looking for  my  2 lbs  hammer=20

73 - G ..=20


From: Dave G3WCB=20
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 10:50 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Subject: LF: G0NBD G7NKS SM6BHZ M0BMU WSPR


Dear LF
  WSPR records for  G0NBD G7NKS SM6BHZ M0BMU (a small selection). =20

  Again, no sign of Roger so far, but I'll leave it running over night=
.
  2122 -16  0.9   0.503959  0 G7NKS IO92 27
  2124  -2  0.7   0.503926  0 SM6BHZ JO57 33
  2128  14  0.2   0.503841  0 M0BMU IO91 33
  2128 -19  0.3   0.503926  0 SM6BHZ JO57 33
  2130 -18  0.6   0.503960  0 G7NKS IO92 27
  2134  15  0.0   0.503841  0 M0BMU IO91 33
  2136  -6  0.4   0.503926  0 SM6BHZ JO57 33
  2142  14  0.0   0.503841  0 M0BMU IO91 33
  2144   0  1.1   0.503888  0 G0NBD IO83 23
  2144  -2  0.3   0.503926  0 SM6BHZ JO57 33=20


  73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM



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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Thanks for the report Dave</FONT></DI=
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>I closed the tx as the&nbsp; audio fe=
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=3Dganymede444@b=
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, September 17, 2009 10:50 PM</DIV>
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> LF: G0NBD G7NKS SM6BHZ M0BMU WSPR</DIV></DIV></DI=
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN class=3D071434621-17092009>Dear=
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BD&nbsp;</SPAN>G7NKS SM6BHZ M0BMU (a small=20
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  <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D273595219-16092009><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>73=
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Dear Jean Pierre, LF
It is HF70W QRSS 60 signal.
Vy 73!
Marcin SQ2BXI

> Hello LF'ers ,
>
> I copy on 137,778 unidentified signal ?
> 22:00 => 23:00 utc ( see on picture )
>
> 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj
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Hello Jim, LF!
I have connected my LF aerial through divider 1/2, so I am able to use two=
 LF receivers simultaneously now. The first is on 137.777 for QRSS60, the=
 second would be for WSPR experiments on 137kHz.=20
I hope to decode your WSPR signal!

73!

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

**************************



> From: james.moritz@btopenworld.com
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 08:07:57 +0100
> Subject: Re: LF: Re: WSPR 137.0k
>=20
> I forgot to say the beacon shut down at about 0700utc...
>=20
> ----- Original Message -----=20
> From: "James Moritz" <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 8:04 AM
> Subject: Re: LF: Re: WSPR 137.0k
>=20
>=20
> > Dear LF Group,
> >
> > Thanks to all for the overnight reports/decodes. I also set my RX to=
=20
> > listen for WD2XES on 137.577k, but no decodes here - perhaps not supri=
sing=20
> > considering the level of QRN!
> >
> > Cheers, Jim Moritz
> > 73 de M0BMU
> >
> >
> >=20
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<br>Hello Jim, LF!<br>I have connected my LF aerial through divider 1/2,=
 so I am able to use two LF receivers simultaneously now. The first is on=
 137.777 for QRSS60, the second would be for WSPR experiments on 137kHz.=
 <br>I hope to decode your WSPR signal!<br><br>73!<br><br>Lubos, OK2BVG,=
 JN88KS<br><br>**************************<br><br><br><br>&gt; From: james.=
moritz@btopenworld.com<br>&gt; To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<br>&gt; Da=
te: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 08:07:57 +0100<br>&gt; Subject: Re: LF: Re: WSPR 137.=
0k<br>&gt; <br>&gt; I forgot to say the beacon shut down at about 0700utc.=
..<br>&gt; <br>&gt; ----- Original Message ----- <br>&gt; From: "James Mor=
itz" &lt;james.moritz@btopenworld.com&gt;<br>&gt; To: &lt;rsgb_lf_group@bl=
acksheep.org&gt;<br>&gt; Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 8:04 AM<br>&gt;=
 Subject: Re: LF: Re: WSPR 137.0k<br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; &gt; Dear LF=
 Group,<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; Thanks to all for the overnight reports/=
decodes. I also set my RX to <br>&gt; &gt; listen for WD2XES on 137.577k,=
 but no decodes here - perhaps not suprising <br>&gt; &gt; considering the=
 level of QRN!<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; Cheers, Jim Moritz<br>&gt; &gt;=
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1634 -28  4.9   0.503910 -2 G7NKS IO92 10
1646 -30  5.8   0.503914  0 G7NKS IO92 23
1834  -2  5.1   0.503920  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
1838  -7  5.3   0.503920  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
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G'day Laurence,

I have a capture of the GV beacon at this link:

http://www.djirra.com/low_frequency/log/index.htm

Look for the entry at the top dated 18/09/09 and click on the thumbnai=
l.

73 Steve VK2ZTO (also VK2XV)
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>G'day Laurence,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>I have a capture of the GV beacon at this=20
link:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><U><FONT color=3D#247cd4><A   href=3D"http://www.djirra.com/low_f=
requency/log/index.htm">http://www.djirra.com/low_frequency/log/index.=
htm</A></FONT></U></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Look for the entry at the top dated 18/09/09=
 and click on=20
the thumbnail.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>73 Steve VK2ZTO (also VK2XV)</FONT></DIV>
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Mal, looking back at my post, I didn't say anywhere that "I have limited
knowledge".  Perhaps you are confusing my post with one from someone else?  

Confusion and memory issues are common traits in the elderly, so I wouldn't
worry about it too much if I were you.   

As for "opinions" they too are rather commonplace in amateur radio with most
operators holding dear several of them.

I'm pleased to hear of your excellent QSO results, good stuff

Keep at it


With best regards
 
 
Jim
 
 
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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal hamilton
Sent: 21 September 2009 18:12
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James if you were a competent CW operator you would think different, like 
you say you have limited knowledge.
WSPR beacons ARE a LAZY APPROACH no skills required and vy limited regarding

propagation predictions.
I had two nice solid QSO'S two nights ago on CW/QRS to Russia and Romania. I

did not need WSPR assistance. Any experienced CW operator can check a band 
and give an opinion about propagation in real time, then proceed to make a 
QSO.
G3KEV

----- Original Message ----- 
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> Adding my thoughts to the debate, 500Khz and WSPR has rekindled my 
> interest
> in radio and I am learning lots in new areas.  As a G7 and not an expert 
> in
> CW, if CW was the only means of communication on the band then I would not
> have been as able to participate, experiment and learn as I have done with
> WSPR.  Additionally, the use of WSPR on other bands encouraged me on to 
> 500
> as I was definitely "weak signal" and now I am trying and enjoying CW QSOs
> too.
>
> The database and software allow the analysis and deduction of lots of info
> and data from the reports and their locations.
>
> For me it is not a case of CW vs WSPR (or indeed other data modes e.g. 
> WOLF)
> but far more having a go at them all in a challenging environment and 
> giving
> the old grey matter a bit of a "run out" and learning some new stuff into
> the bargain i.e. self training.
>
> As I have said in other posts, it whacks the pants off 20m SSB for sense 
> of
> achievement and enjoyment (as well as outright frustration!)
>
> I'm sure once we've all got WSPR sorted we'll be running WSJT in QSO mode
> and then we can exchange information as per the original poster's comment.
>
> Just my thoughts and YMMV
>
> With best regards
>
>
> Jim
>
>
> Dr. James Cowburn
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Peter Cleall
> Sent: 21 September 2009 14:18
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Cc: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: LF: defence of WSPR Signals
>
> I have always been interested in propagation.
> These WSPR signals are seen by some as repetitious rubbish.
>
> If you use , WSPR, the Internet database and your own receptions you soon
> realise that there are subtle variations in signal particularly QSB that 
> are
> different over day/ night paths, transitions at dawn and dusk and
> differences on N/S and E/W paths. Northern stations seem favoured for E/W
> propagation and distance between stations also has an effect.
>
> At last we have software and a process for examining in near real time the
> subtlety of these variations. We can see the signal reports from many
> distances and directions at the same time. I think we will learn a lot 
> more
> over the winter if we continue with these tests. I would like to think 
> that
> in the future we could have some coordinated test times which would get a
> greater number of receiving participants available at the same time.
>
> Personally I have been working on propagation with WSPR for several months
> on 30m. But  the recent activity by Andy, Jim and others has resulted in 
> me
> hunting out my 137kHz equipment that has not been used for a couple of 
> years
> and rebuilding a converter to hear my first signals on 500khz , since the
> commercial stations disappeared. I can see from the other reports on the
> database that I need to do more work on Aerials and i suspect that I still
> have a lot to learn about signals and equipment overload. Thee existence 
> of
> a few known reference signals is essential to improving ones equipment and
> knowledge. I t think this is all part of the spirit of amateur radio for 
> our
> self education in radio techniques which is a major justification for us 
> to
> have licenses.
>
> regards
> peterG8AFN
>
>
> Sep 21, 2009 10:52:38 AM, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org wrote:
>
> ===========================================
>
> WSPR signals last evening copied from G4JNT, G4WGT, G7NKS and SM6BHZ on
> 500kHz. Also very strong signal during the day from M0BMU on 137kHz.My
> report of your DFCW signal on 137 the other day, Jim, had the wrong
> frequency - sorry about that, added the difference 20Hz rather than
> subtracted from my RX offset - should have been 137.68 of course.Tend to
> agree with Mal's comments, I am having difficulty in seeing the point of
> some of this when there is little in the way of exchanged information
> between stations. There is a place for beacons, certainly. What concerns 
> me
> is that the casual listener tuning across the band probably has no idea
> there's anybody on.Vy 73,Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent, JO01MI.
>
>


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Dear Jordan, Roelof, LF Group,

I have used a very similar circuit to the one in Roelof's schematic for some 
time (it is in the RSGB's "Radio communication handbook", and "LF Today"- I 
should declare an interest as a co-author of these).  With slight 
modifications it can be quite versatile. In my version, the input RF gain 
pot is omitted, and the antenna is connected direct to the tuning inductor. 
Gain is adjusted by a shunt capacitor between the antenna and ground, which 
ranges between several 100pF for a short wire to several nF for bigger 
antennas, making the input circuit into a pi network. Generally the same 
shunt capacitance is satisfactory over the whole tuning range. The shunt 
capacitor can be partly or wholly made up of the capacitance of a coax 
feeder, so quite long feeders can be used, e.g. one leg of an existing HF 
dipole. Alternatively, the antenna can be a large wire loop (say 10m^2 or 
so), in which case the shunt capacitor is omitted - again, the antenna can 
be fed through quite long lengths of coax.

Because the input tuner is essentially a low-pass filter circuit with a 
sharp peak in its response, it works well at rejecting the very local MW 
broadcasters here, although I have had problems with very small ferrite 
cored inductors saturating - using larger chokes, or series combinations of 
smaller values cured this. I have used it with inductors of up to 200mH, and 
1000pF tuning capacitance, to tune to the bottom of the VLF range. The 
tuning is very sharp, but this is not a problem for receiving the narrow 
136kHz and 500kHz amateur bands.

The amplifier section in my version is similar, except instead of the 2N5109 
I have used lower-frequency and cheaper transistors such as 2N3053, BD135, 
BFY51, etc, which work fine at these frequencies. The biasing in my circuit 
is a bit different - I have eliminated the 680R, 2k2, 10k, 470n and 47R 
coupling and bias components, and instead connected the source direct to the 
base, and a 100R resistor between base and emitter in a "bootstrapped" 
arrangement. This compound follower arrangement has been very useful as a 
high impedance, low noise buffer in several LF/MF applications.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU 



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Hi Claude!

My modest report: 
http://rw3adb.narod.ru/2009/20sep2009_F8BOJ/135.5W_120_00013.jpg
Looooong dash into mode-120 rx'd.
There is no trace actually into mode-90 as yet.
http://rw3adb.narod.ru/2009/20sep2009_F8BOJ/135.5W_90_00025.jpg

Roman

* Andrey rn3agc <rn3agc@mail.ru> [Sun, 20 Sep 2009 23:03:22 -0000]:
> Hi Claude,
> Magnificent signal!
> My locator KO85sv.
> Argo in modes 3s and 90s
>
> 73
> Andrey
>
> * "f8boj-3.jpg"
> * "f8boj-90.jpg"



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Roman RW3ADB.


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Jim, Gus, group-=20

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Ill do the same routine tonight and Ill put the China grabber on too for=
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 my dawn this morning and I need to look around and see what else there wa=
s. I didnt do that this morning - I left my dang 500khz LPF in Alaska so=
 will have to build another one here as I am getting some rubbish from all=
 my local blowtorch MF stations.

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http://kl1x.com/2dx00000.jpg   will show part of the China MF WSPR window=
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We dont have a path from Alaska to Eu at the moment but from Oct onwards=
 it looks possible and Ill bring that receiver online when it looks feasib=
le or probably a bit before!

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Laurence KL1X in China
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> From: james.moritz@btopenworld.com
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
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> Subject: Re: LF: Re: SM6BHZ into China
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> Laurence, Gus, LF Group,
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> Thanks - found it in the WSPRnet database eventually... I was surprised=
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 it! I=20
> did wonder why Gus was running 100% TX duty cycle.
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> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
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Jim, Gus, group- <BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Ill do the same routine tonight and Ill put the China grabber on too for=
 "graphicals" - Other Sigs were detectable but not decodeable till after=
 my dawn this morning and I need to look around and see what else there wa=
s. I didnt do that this morning - I left my dang 500khz LPF in&nbsp;Alaska=
 so will have to build another one here as I am getting some rubbish from=
 all my local blowtorch MF stations.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
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<A href=3D"http://kl1x.com/2dx00000.jpg">http://kl1x.com/2dx00000.jpg</A>&=
nbsp;&nbsp; will show part of the China MF WSPR window tonight i Hope.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
We dont have a path from Alaska to Eu at the moment but from Oct onwards=
 it looks possible and Ill bring that receiver&nbsp;online when it looks=
 feasible or probably a bit before!<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Laurence KL1X&nbsp;in China<BR>&nbsp;<BR>&gt; From: james.moritz@btopenwor=
ld.com<BR>&gt; To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR>&gt; Date: Sun, 6 Sep=
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; <BR>&gt; Laurence, Gus, LF Group,<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Thanks - found it in=
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 fast at that time it just flew off the bottom of the page before I saw it=
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1718 -20  0.6   0.503942  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
1720 -21  0.6   0.503942  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
1722 -21  0.8   0.503942  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
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At 04:38 AM 9/11/2009, I wrote:
[..]
  once you accumulate half a Hz of frequency offset adding in more 
samples actually hurts more than it helps because 
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(that should be half a cycle, not Hz)

destructive interference sets in.




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Hi Jim, LF!

On Andrey's grabber only:
http://www.rn3agc.msk.ru/grabber1.shtml
negative copy in my loc today.

> M0BMU very clear at 503.840 WSPR:
>
> 193400 4 11 1.5 -896 0 M0BMU IO91 33
>
> 73 - IK1ODO - JN35sa


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Laurence had mentioned that conditions seemed good last night. I had 22 lines of SM6BHZ WSPR copy between 2340 and 0154Z from Massachusetts (FN42ch). Copy started and ended earlier than usual. 

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OK Markus,
I produce the sound and CW via mic and MD player and a simpel Hand-Pum=
p so the level is't checked.
That could be the reason :-)

de Gus

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  oops, one word was missing...

  Generally the CW part seems a bit louder than the voice peaks.

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Will anyone be QAP tonite on 502.57 CW/QRS3 for poss QSO.
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John, Roger & Group,

It took me several attempts to calibrate the sound card but OK now.

Gary - G4WGT.

2009-09-10 20:30:17 >WOLF10  -r 7985.608 -f 800 -t 3.0 -w 0.0000 -ut
20:30:41 f:-2.791 a:-1.0 dp: 97.3 ci:11 cj:152 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
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20:31:53 f:-2.791 a:-1.1 dp: 94.2 ci: 8 cj:152 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
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2009/9/10 John P-G <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk>:
> Roger Lapthorn wrote:
>>
>> Well, easy for some (I can see) but NOT for me. What am I doing wrong?
>>
>
>
> Roger,
>
> Unfortunately I don't think I can help, as I'm a total novice at WOLF, so
> can't really come up with any quick fixes!
>
> All I did was set the centre frequency to match the USB tuning offset - tune
> low 1kHz to 502.5 and set centre frequency to 1000Hz.
>
> I think pretty much everything else standard.
>
> Looking at my version I see that under "Mode"... I have "Receive Only"
> ticked, "WOLF 10[symbols/sec] " ---> "Normal Speed" ticked.
>
> That's all I've done initially and it worked. Lawrence in China suggested I
> try to calibrate my soundcard, so I followed his suggestion.
>
> I know, as has been discussed before, that WSPR is often touchy about
> soundcard sampling rates and string signals.
>
> Don't know if WOLF is the same.
>
> But at least can adjust for this in the software with WOLF though.
>
> Tune to 197kHz in USB mode. THe Radio 4 carrier should be at 1kHz. If you've
> chosen a 1kHz centre frequency, on the WOLF Config tab there's a button
> marked "Cal" in the receive options area. Press it. It will work out a
> correction factor for your soundcard. I think you're then asked to accept
> the value offerred... do this and then start again. See if this fixes
> things.
>
> As Dave YMC rightly comments - this might be one to try and then forget,
> although it seems (of setup correctly) to be quite sensitive.
>
> Cheers,
>
> John
> GM4SLV
>
>
>
>
>


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Jim, Alan,

     Fritz does NOT represent all of the US 500kHz activity and his
band plan is not being followed here by non-XSH stations so I would
take all this with a large grain of salt.  Keep in mind that in
addition to WD2XSH there is WE2XPQ, WD2XFX, and WE2XTT, and a half
dozen WE2XGR stations as well as other pending applications.

--=20
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
                WE2XEB/2
                WE2XGR/1




On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Alan Melia <alan.melia@btinternet.com> wr=
ote:
> Hi Jim. whist it involves a change in "usage" from our end it would not=
 seem
> unreasonable to ensure that the US stations have a chance of hearing us
> without nearby swamping. I think this is an interesting development beca=
suse
> it now seems that Frtiz is extending the experiment to intercontinental
> tests/qsos.......an activity he discouraged earlier....due to the terms=
 of
> the original application and grant I believe. I have to admit my opinion=
s
> carry very little weight as a "non-active operator" :-)) But maybe it wi=
ll
> stimulate others with differing opinions to voice them to you.
>
> Best wishes
> Alan G3NYK
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "James Moritz" <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 2:14 PM
> Subject: LF: Re: US 500-kHz band plan
>
>
>> Dear LF Group,
>>
>> I still haven't replied to Fritz Raab, W1FR, regarding the WD2XSH US ba=
nd
>> plan which he is apparently coordinating - you may remember I posted th=
e
> US
>> proposals, which he sent me, a couple of weeks ago, but have not receiv=
ed
>> any comments from other UK/Eu stations. I think I should reply with
>> something, so now is your chance... The proposal relates to the US
>> allocation extending to 495 - 515kHz, and how that would fit in with
> current
>> UK and Eu beacon operations. The content of the e-mail is below. The is=
sue
>> is that they would like to make a 501.0 - 501.2kHz WSPR sub-band, to fi=
t
> in
>> with the various other proposals. Various other types of beacon modes=
 are
>> allocated frequencies outside the UK/EI/ON 501 - 504kHz range, while
> 501.2 -
>> 504kHz is allocated to "general comms". Retaining frequencies just belo=
w
>> 504kHz would divide their "general comms" band in two
>>
>> I don't think there is anything preventing us from doing this, it is ju=
st
>> the inconvenience of turning the current band "upside-down". Let me kno=
w
>> what you think!
>>
>> Cheers, Jim Moritz
>> 73 de M0BMU
>>
>> >>>From W1FR:
>>
>> Greetings:
>>
>> =A0 =A0 =A0Thanks for the comments on the band plan, passed
>> along to me by W1XP.
>>
>> =A0 =A0 =A0About a month ago, a modification to the WD2XSH
>> license was approved that adds stations and gives us
>> access to 495 - 510 kHz. =A0Perhaps half of the 42 stations
>> will eventually get on the air. =A0Because of NDBs, some
>> stations are limited to parts of this band and we will
>> have two calling frequencies and two beacon bands.
>>
>> =A0 =A0 =A0A draft of our new band plan follows. =A0Of particular
>> interest is WSPR. =A0As I see it, our options are:
>>
>> (a) =A0501.0-501.2: =A0Conveniently on one side of our comms
>> =A0 =A0 =A0band. =A0Will not overload WSPR receivers near 504 kHz.
>> =A0 =A0 =A0Apparently in EU CW-beacon band.
>>
>> (b) =A0503.8-504.0: =A0Apparently same as what you guys are
>> =A0 =A0 =A0using. =A0Cuts our comms band in the middle. =A0Nearby
>> =A0 =A0 =A0stations may overload US receivers trying to hear EUs.
>>
>> (c) =A0503.9-504.1: =A0Same problems as above with cutting
>> =A0 =A0 =A0comms band in two and overloading. =A0Conveniently
>> =A0 =A0 =A0straddles both G/ON/EI and Canadian bands.
>>
>> =A0 =A0 =A0Any further thoughts you may have will be
>> appreciated.
>>
>>
>> 73, Fritz, W1FR
>>
>> Frederick H. (Fritz) Raab, Ph.D.
>> GREEN MOUNTAIN RADIO RESEARCH COMPANY
>> 77 Vermont Avenue, Fort Ethan Allen
>> Colchester, Vermont 05446 =A0USA
>> Tel./Fax.: =A0+1 (802) 655-9670 =A0Home: =A0+1 (802) 862-0997
>> E-mail: =A0f.raab@ieee.org
>>
>> BASIC BAND PLAN for WD2XSH
>>
>> f, kHz =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0USE
>>
>> 495.0 - 495.1 =A0 QRSS, 1-Hz spacing, 40 stations
>> 495.1 - 495.6 =A0 CW/PSK beacons midwest, 100-Hz spacing, 10 stations
>> 495.6 - 499.0 =A0 Comms
>> 497.5 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Calling frequency
>> 499.0 - 501.0 =A0 Reserved for heritage stations and special events
>> 501.0 - 501.2 =A0 WSPR
>> 501.2 - 505.0 =A0 Comms
>> 505.0 - 505.2 =A0 DX window
>> 505.2 - 508.5 =A0 Comms
>> 507.5 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Calling frequency
>> 508.5 - 510.0 =A0 CW/PSK beacons east, south, west, Pacific, 50-Hz spac=
ing,
> 30
>> stations
>> 510.0 - 511.0 =A0 WE2XGR beacons
>> 511.0 - 515.0 =A0 WE2XGR SSB and wideband modes
>>
>>
>> OTHER IN-BAND SIGNALS
>>
>> 503.976 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 NEED LSB
>> 505.0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 NEED carrier
>> 506.024 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 NEED USB
>>
>> 508.976 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 OF/FA LSB
>> 510.0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 OF/FA carrier
>> 511.024 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 OF/FA USB
>>
>>
>
>
>

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Hi Laurence!
100% UA4WPF! fine business!
I'm read his message in RUS-DW yahoo-group.

>>=C4=E0=FE =EC=E0=FF=EA =E2 =ED=EE=F7=FC =F1 18 =ED=E0 19 =F1=E5=ED=F2=FF=
=E1=F0=FF 2009 =E3.
-I can make an beacon at 18 up to 19 sep 2009 tonight.
>>beacon (W_--) DFCW 240 F=3D137.77725 18 - 02 UTC Loc.LO66PU
>>73!
>>Anatol
>>UA4WPF

Roman

* Laurence BY3A-KL1X China <hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com> [Fri, 18 Sep=
=20
2009 14:14:37 -0800]:
>
> Sorry that should have been 137.7772 ish  - too early in the
> morning....of course it could be a "W" !
>
>
>
> Wheres the coffee....
>
>
>
> From: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 13:43:19 -0800
> Subject: LF: 137.772
>
>
>
> Good early morning - Who is M on this freq out to my West? As it gets
> daylight a Loran line will appear close to this freq and is just (just
> visible)
>
> DCF39 is S7 this mng :-))
>
> Laurence in BY3A OM89UA
>
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Gus, LF - GE

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One successful decode from the "B" SDR IQ receiver and  Dell 630

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2050  -29  0.9  0.503925  0  SMBHZ JO57 40  (reported as BY3X) =20

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Im definately getting better decodes on the SDR/D630 than the R75/Dell 610=
. Whether this is a result of the  A>D loss which the R75 analogue incurs=
  coming down to audio etc - or a true receiver artifact remains to be see=
n, but its the same on HF as well - Ill swop them over, or parts of the sy=
stem and will try to see where the improvement is.

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Now I know absolutely know that for my listening pleasure the R75 knocks=
 spots on sensitivity and other filtering/AGC/NB over the SDR IQ  -  but=
 in a highly processed, right on the edge -29/-30 world, heavy noise envir=
onment with plenty of RF perhaps the pure D to D SDR makes that little dif=
ference.  Or it could really be the processing power and divisors between=
 the two computers....lots of variables here so Im still not sure.

=20

Its was really noisy and surprised to get anything -there is a large Typho=
on between Hainan Island and Hong Kong which appears to be the largest noi=
se maker.

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Cheers

Laurence in BY3A

just dawn now in  E China.

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&nbsp;<BR>
Gus, LF - GE<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
One successful decode from the "B" SDR IQ receiver and&nbsp; Dell 630<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
2050&nbsp; -29&nbsp; 0.9&nbsp; 0.503925&nbsp; 0&nbsp;&nbsp;SMBHZ JO57 40&n=
bsp; (reported as BY3X)&nbsp; <BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Im definately getting better decodes on the SDR/D630 than the R75/Dell 610=
. Whether this is a result of the&nbsp; A&gt;D loss which the R75 analogue=
 incurs&nbsp; coming down to audio etc - or a true receiver artifact remai=
ns to be seen, but its the same on HF as well - Ill swop them over, or par=
ts of the system and will try to see where the improvement is.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Now I know absolutely know that for my listening pleasure the R75 knocks=
 spots on sensitivity and other filtering/AGC/NB over the&nbsp;SDR IQ&nbsp=
; - &nbsp;but in a highly processed, right on the edge -29/-30 world, heav=
y noise environment with plenty of RF perhaps the pure D to D SDR makes th=
at little difference.&nbsp; Or it could really be the processing power and=
 divisors between the two computers....lots of variables here so Im still=
 not sure.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Its was really noisy and surprised to get anything -there is a large Typho=
on between Hainan Island and Hong Kong which appears to be the largest noi=
se maker.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Cheers<BR>
Laurence in BY3A<BR>
just dawn now in&nbsp; E China.<BR><br /><hr />Hotmail: Free, trusted and=
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A few spots in the quiet dawn hours from MOBMU have now pushed my WSPR logs
to 3 different people, with best DX 69kms.

 2009-09-14 05:52  G3XBM  0.503829  -26  0  JO02dg  0.001  M0BMU  IO91vr
 69  210
Thanks Jim.and others

73s
Roger G3XBM
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A few spots in the quiet dawn hours from MOBMU have now pushed my WSPR log=
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Hello Group!

I haven't followed the list very closely recently and so I might have
missed something.

Could anybody please tell me what kind of signal is permanently on
137140? (Always visible on the DF6NM-grabber)

It seems to be modulated in some way and I have heard it is WSPR. Though
I can receive this signal in JN88HL, WSPR-software failed to decode.

Thanks in advance and

Cheers

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My 500kHz beacon has just been turned back on again. Any reports or
screenshots would be appreciated.  It would be lovely to have some reports
from a few new stations too and I'd just love to get >100kms with the
current QRP set-up.

73s
Roger
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My 500kHz beacon has just been turned back on again. Any reports or screen=
shots would be appreciated.=A0 It would be lovely to have some reports fro=
m a few new stations too and I&#39;d just love to get &gt;100kms with the=
 current QRP set-up.<br>
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LF group,
DI2AM signal good copied this evening.
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Marcin SQ2BXI

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James Cowburn wrote:
> Hi John
> 
> Let me know if you rx the new and improved G7NKS!
> 

James, LF,


Almost too easy now!

090911 2024    -24  1.1   0.503943  G7NKS IO92 23
090911 2032    -24  1.2   0.503942  G7NKS IO92 23
090911 2054    -27  0.9   0.503942  G7NKS IO92 23
090911 2114    -26  1.2   0.503942  G7NKS IO92 23
090911 2130    -24  1.5   0.503942  G7NKS IO92 23
090911 2150    -18  1.5   0.503942  G7NKS IO92 23


Will stay on 502.4 WSPR overnight to compare with previous fleeting 
reception of you on previous occasions.

It's looking good so far though, as I've never had any decodes so early 
before.

Cheers,

John


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Chris, John,

indeed, in theory radiation resistance is proportional to the square =20
of the height (for a short vertical antenna).
So "jacking up" the antenna even a few meter is worth the efford.
As a bonus the heigher antenna has a larger capacitance (although this =20
effect is less if you have good topload) and often (but not always) a =20
lower loss resistance (cfr the footprint theory of G3AQC).
I am in the onfortunate situtation when the loss resistance increases =20
with antenna height, because the antenna (topload) is over an open =20
grass area (30 by 45m) surrounded by forrest. As the antenna height =20
increases the footprint increases and it then includes more forrested =20
area. This results in a larger loss resistance. But even in this =20
situation the benefit of a larger radiation resistance overrules the =20
increased loss:
- antenna height 6m =3D 35 Ohm loss
- antenna height 11m =3D 45 Ohm loss (=3D +29%, but Rrad =3D +336%)

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

Quoting John P-G <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk>:

> Chris wrote:
>> ....and how does 'Jacking up' the antenna increase the ERP?
>> Chris, G4AYT.
>
> Chris,LF,
>
>   Presumably by increasing the height one increases the capacity and the
> the radiation resistance and thus the ERP will rise for a given TX power
> and antenna current? One probably also reduces the loss resistance too,
> due to needing less loading L, so the current might also increase,
> leading to yet more ERP for a fixed TX power.
>
> John
> GM4SLV
>
>
>



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Hi Willem and LF group 
Many thanks for the pics repport excellente copy...
good evening best 73s 
Claude F8BOJ JN16WA
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> boj
> 73s willem pa3ego jo22mb
> 
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Ee by gum! Tha's a bit tender on that 'un arnt thee!

I sed sem thin' to thee las week and tha bit me 'and off abaht it.  

'appen thee 's more Yorkshire than thee think.  Grumpy 'n maungy like.

You can allus tell a yorkshireman, but you can't tell 'im much!

Relevance to LF/MF?  Nowt! 


With best regards
 
 
Jim
 
 
Dr. James Cowburn
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal hamilton
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Steve
I am not from Yorkshire and therefore the Yorkshire accent is non 
applicable.
POME = PRISONER OF OLD MOTHER ENGLAND and that is also non applicacable.
We have strayed away from LF/MF time to get back on track What is WSPR doing

for AUSTRALIA?
G3KEV

----- Original Message ----- 
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> G'day Mal,
>
> Still reeling 'em in I see.
>
>
>>
>> I have heard a lot worse said about POME'S from AUS sources over the
>> years.
>>
>
> Nah - I'm not a POME-basher, sorry I can't give you that out.   Some of my
> best friends are POMs.    Good bunch of chaps in my experience.
>
>>
>> Glad that I am not a POME.
>>
>
> Don't worry - you are not - rest assured you are in a class completely of
> your own.
>
>>
>> de G3KEV now back to pounding the morse key, 20 metres looks good at
>> present.
>>
>
> I hope "morse key" is not a euphemism.....
>
> As the actress said to the ham operator..."Is that a morse key I see in 
> your
> hand - or are you just pleased to see me ?".... ;-)
>
> Keep throwing out the bait....
>
> BTW - for my own entertainment I have been listening to some Yorkshire
> accents from the BBC.    Don't know whether you are a native speaker of 
> them
> thar parts, but blimey mate, I thought 'strine was hard for non-Aussies to
> understand until I heard a Yorkshire accent.   If you are a native speaker

> I
> can fully understand why you would prefer CW and emails.    That mode is
> excellent for allowing foreign speakers to understand each other - even
> across counties.
>
> Nice to hook up with you again.
>
> 73 Steve
>
>


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Hi Chris and all=20
Thank you for your mail ... I am very happy to spend too for your qth=
=20
I hope you find a qso=20
F8boj Claude JN16WA
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Chris=20
  To: RSGB LF Group=20
  Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 11:49 AM
  Subject: LF: 137.74 F8BOJ


  Hi Claude,
  Your signal excellent here copy here, sorry can't get back to you.
  Vy 73,
  Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent, UK, (JO01MI).

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2022  -9  1.9   0.503941  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
2022   7  1.6   0.503967  0 M0BMU IO91 37
2024 -19  2.0   0.503902  0 G4WGT IO83 27
2024   5  1.6   0.503967  0 M0BMU IO91 37
2026   2  1.6   0.503967  0 M0BMU IO91 37
2028   0  2.0   0.503942  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
2030   0  1.6   0.503967  0 M0BMU IO91 37
2032 -18  1.9   0.503902  0 G4WGT IO83 27
2032  -3  1.6   0.503967  0 M0BMU IO91 37
2036 -22  2.0   0.503902  0 G4WGT IO83 27
2036   2  1.5   0.503967  0 M0BMU IO91 37
2038  -9  1.9   0.503942  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
2038   4  1.7   0.503967  0 M0BMU IO91 37
2042  -4  2.1   0.503942  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
2044 -18  2.2   0.503902  0 G4WGT IO83 27
2044   1  1.8   0.503967  0 M0BMU IO91 37
2046   0  4.3   0.503967  0 M0BMU IO91 37
2048 -17  2.2   0.503902  0 G4WGT IO83 27
2048  -8  1.9   0.503942  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
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2052   6  1.8   0.503967  0 M0BMU IO91 37
2054 -26  2.0   0.503903  0 G4WGT IO83 27
2056  -3  2.1   0.503942  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
2102 -24  2.4   0.503903  0 G4WGT IO83 27
2102   5  2.0   0.503942  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
2104   0  2.1   0.503967  0 M0BMU IO91 37
73s pa3ego jo22mb



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hi Marcin and LF
GM is f8boj error frequence in qrss3 change frequency for 137740hz  =
 qsl...!
qsl...F8boj Claude jn16wa----- Original Message -----=20
From: "Marcin" <bxi@go2.pl>
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Hello Jean Pierre
Your grabber regularly copy my signal:
http://www.sp2kds.pl/images/stories/f1afj.jpg
Vy 73!
Marcin SQ2BXI

Hello Marcin ,

Tnx for info , my antenna are at QTF 295=B0 (USA)

73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

Marcin a =E9crit :
> Dear Jean Pierre, LF
> It is HF70W QRSS 60 signal.
> Vy 73!
> Marcin SQ2BXI
>
>
>> Hello LF'ers ,
>>
>> I copy on 137,778 unidentified signal ?
>> 22:00 =3D> 23:00 utc ( see on picture )
>>
>> 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj
>>
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Hello Lubos , John , Warren ,

Last night good copy of  XGJ and XES (  As at the good old day !  )
XGJ was visible 1:30 after the sunrise

73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj


Lubos OK2BVG a =E9crit :
> Hello Warren, LF!
> I saw your signal in the sunrise time in OK.
>
> 73!
>
> Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS
>  =20

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> Excellent propagartion world wide on 7Mcs tonite but so far nothing 
exciting on LF/MF

Not so excellent, Mal. You are do not copy me on 40 now. -)

> Mal/g3kev



--
Roman RW3ADB.


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Dear Roger, LF Group,

I intend to run the WOLF beacon again from around 1900utc onwards this 
evening

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU

----- Original Message ----- 
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> All being well I am now ready to RX on WOLF on 502.5kHz (USB dial freq). 
> Is
> anyone planning to TX using WOLF this evening?
>
> 73s
> Roger G3XBM
>
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Roger,

One more thing - since you aren't set up for transceive operation and 
your TX power is fairly low would it be possible for you to operate in 
continuous TX mode. Then we might spot more easily any fleeting openings 
in propagation. It would be a shame to miss a short enhancement if it 
were to occur during one of your non-transmit periods.

Just a thought

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Gus, thank You very much for the offer :)
I heard You several times and the signal will be nice, for sure. 

My primary hope was/is to receive a signal from the west, e.g. England.

Thanks again
vy73
Dennis



 
-------- Original-Nachricht --------
> Datum: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 23:25:36 +0200
> Von: "Gus" <begu@algonet.se>
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> Betreff: LF: Re: low noise level today -> like to RX You on 600m

> Dear Dennis,
> I just run WSPR beacon, but i can take a break and transmit for you 15
> min.
> Is it ok if i transmit SSB and CW beacon , 505,5 kHz USB ?
> 
> 73 de Gus SM6BHZ
> 
> www.sm6bhz.com
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dennis" <Dennis.Hennig@gmx.de>
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> Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 11:16 PM
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> >
> > Hi!
> >
> > After some tinkering I'm surprised: The usual QRM is much lower tonight
> on 
> > 500kHz, DI2AM loud and clear by ear.
> >
> > I don't like to discuss pro&contra WSPR, but for today, I do not have
> any 
> > WSPR capabilities.
> > Would You mind to transmit a 10-15 minute CW-Beacon for me?
> >
> > Thanks a lot :)
> >
> > vy73
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CASE WELL PRESENTED BY DAVE SERGEANT

----- Original Message ----- 
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> On 21 Sep 2009 at 13:17, Peter Cleall wrote:
>
>> I have always been interested in propagation.
>> These WSPR signals are seen by some as repetitious rubbish.
>
> Well having spent a few days looking at WSPR I would tend to fit best
> in the 'repetitious rubbish' group.... WSPR is specifically designed
> for weak signal reception, and there is certainly a case of doing this
> to catch openings to our friends in W and BY land. But at a local level
> I don't think it serves much purpose - it is true that you can
> automatically monitor propagation and QSB rates, but a 2 minute
> sampling time is FAR too long to get any sensible figures from this. At
> my QTH every signal I have copied has been perfectly readable by ear,
> some by a very considerable margin. Once you have monitored for a few
> hours there is little more to be gained and it is a painfully slow mode
> to even consider as a QSO mode.
>
> The USA amateurs are fortunate in having a considerably wider band than
> us. To have what is effective beacon transmissions there for long
> periods in our 3kHz is not the best use of our space.
>
> I shall be very shortly re-configuring my vertical back to its Top Band
> mode for the winter season. If the future of 500kHz lies only in WSPR
> beaconing it is a sad life being an amateur and I have far more useful
> things to do on the other bands.
>
> 73 Dave G3YMC
>
> http://www.davesergeant.com
>
>


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G'day Alberto,

Crikey - I thought your blushing glow had reached VK !!!!!    Woke up to a 
Martian landscape this morning.    Red dust on everything.     Massive dust 
storm has enveloped almost all of NSW.    Last time I saw something like 
this was 40 years ago when I was living about 600km to the west of here. 
But that was on the edge of semi-desert, not the east coast of 
Australia.....

Anyway - back to things LF.

Note your modest remarks on ARGO.     Well, speaking for myself I haven't 
felt a need to try other QRSS viewers.

About SDR - I must confess to being in the dark about that.    I must swot 
up on it.   When I do I will start from your site.

Keep up the good work.

73   Steve Olney - VK2XV

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I have been trying to work out why I have such bad copy of WOLF and 
WSPR (on HF as well as 500kHz) and others report it as 'plug and go' 
and came across a page at http://wsprnet.org/drupal/node/336 which 
explains the problem exactly. It seems that both WOLF and WSPR are 
designed for current sound cards which have 48,000 and 96,000 clock 
rates. Mine is obviously from the old stable so has 44,100 etc rates.

For information it is the sound card interface built into the 
motherboard, an ASR Rock K7S41GX dating from 2003 with generic AC'97 
sound. Zilch more given about its spec in the manual.

I did a test using a 40m broadcast carrier on 7355kHz, with the K2 
tuned to get a 1.5kHz tone.

Argo reports it correctly at 1502Hz, pretty spot on
Wolf (default 8000Hz sampling) reports 1553Hz
WSPR (2000Hz sampling) reports 1534Hz

Obviously the interpolation works differently for the different 
sampling rates of WOLF and WSPR but the effect is obvious.

Being an older card there is no way it will support the 48,000 etc 
sampling rates natively, and there is certainly no switch. In Wolf I 
can play around with the calibration, but there seems no way to do this 
in WSPR.

At least I now know why I, and presumably others, have problems.

73 Dave G3YMC

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Thanks to Gus Jim and others - no decodes overnight here - reasonably high=
 QRN and a "new" carrier have landed on Gus's tx freq 503.950...(?). I got=
 up at 3.00am to check progress so another day of red eyes and imbibing =
 Chinese version of Red Bull. "Maos' Red Flag Ale"

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Ill be working on another pre-selector tonight - I left mine (W1VD design)=
 and the LPF back in AK, doh!

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I measured 12 descrete carriers on 504 plus or minus 5 Hz - a couple had=
 low level music/speech modulation on them and as suggested are probably=
 8 or 9kHz (x56th etc)  harmonics from local entertainment or other homely=
/industrial devices nearby and not all attributable to RTE..

=20

At 0700 local the local radio MW blow torch stations change to their dayti=
me power and antenna - this causes a few more lines to appear :-((

=20

Laurence

Sunny Tianjin...


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> From: james.moritz@btopenworld.com
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 07:07:06 +0100
> Subject: LF: Re: tonight - WOLF10 test
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> Dear LF Group,
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> Thanks for the reports overnight - the WOLF10 beacon closed down at 0600=
utc.
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> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU=20
>=20
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Thanks to Gus&nbsp;Jim&nbsp;and others - no decodes&nbsp;overnight here -=
 reasonably high QRN and a&nbsp;"new" carrier have landed on Gus's tx freq=
&nbsp;503.950...(?). I got up at 3.00am to check progress so another day=
 of red eyes and imbibing&nbsp;&nbsp;Chinese version of Red Bull. "Maos'=
 Red Flag Ale"<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Ill be working&nbsp;on another&nbsp;pre-selector tonight - I left mine (W1=
VD design)&nbsp;and the LPF back in AK, doh!<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
I measured 12 descrete carriers on 504 plus or minus 5 Hz - a couple had=
 low level music/speech modulation on them and as suggested are probably=
 8 or 9kHz&nbsp;(x56th etc)&nbsp;&nbsp;harmonics from local entertainment=
 or other homely/industrial devices nearby and not all attributable to RTE=
..<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
At 0700 local the local radio MW blow torch stations change to their dayti=
me power and antenna - this causes a few more lines to appear :-((<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Laurence<BR>
Sunny Tianjin...<BR>
<BR>&nbsp;<BR>&gt; From: james.moritz@btopenworld.com<BR>&gt; To: rsgb_lf_=
group@blacksheep.org<BR>&gt; Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 07:07:06 +0100<BR>&gt;=
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>&gt; <BR>&gt; Thanks for the reports overnight - the WOLF10 beacon closed=
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In the ideal case of course you have just receiver noise as your 
background noise level. So you adjust your sound card input to give you 
the magic 0dB on that. During the night the static crash level will 
rise and push the S-meter to s9 at times. Every 15 minutes G4JNT will 
do its one minute of transmission on 503.7 at various power levels and 
push the little thing in the box well into the red. So one has to ask 
oneself what exactly the dB figures in reports really mean. The 
adjustment to 0dB will differ widely between different stations 
depending on what the noise level was at the time they adjusted it. And 
as pointed out, 0dB in WSPR with an SSB bandwidth (but only looking at 
200Hz of it) usually implies a signal way over s9 in anybody's terms.

End result, pay no attention to the figure other than a relative 
measure of any individual stations reception, or to monitor QSB. It 
certainly doesn't mean that a -30dB report is 30dB below audible 
copy...

Anyway, I have now given up on WSPR for the moment. Any chance of 
another Wolf transmission before I disconnect the antenna?

73 Dave G3YMC

On 24 Sep 2009 at 9:18, Dave Pick wrote:

> opt-tee-mumish? These technical terms always confuse me....
> 
> ;-)  Dave
> 
> 
> 2009/9/24 Laurence BY3A-KL1X China <hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com>
> 
> >  Red box means its either too low (or recommended level) or too high -
> >  if
> > the box goes White its in the ballpark but Im told 0dB is
> > opt-tee-mumish
> >
> > --
> G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK
> 


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* Roman RW3ADB <rw3adb@rambler.ru> [Mon, 21 Sep 2009 00:12:08 +0400]:
>
> HI, Claude!
> RN3AGC Andrey ask you trying to TX on 137777 up to 2-3 hours later.
> Trying to see you in Moscow.
> The grabbers started ON:
> http://www.rn3agc.msk.ru/grabber1.shtml
> http://qrss.nm.ru/grabber.html
>

You are traced onto RN3AGC grabber: 
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NIL onto my grabber.

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Turns out the Moose was a baby and the White antennae wire of the K9AY was=
 visible to him. Wonder if you have to change the wire color due to season=
al changes! :-)  Soon be time for the Black wire...snow levels dropping...=
.

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Laurence  in by3a.
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The China http://kl1x.com/2dx00000.jpg grabber, and  Alaska   http://kl1x.=
com/dx00000.jpg grabbers will be on auto over the next 9 days or so, and=
 hopefully under remote control from elsewhere in the globe.=20
=20
I cant guarantee stability or access to the China grabber as "they" are do=
ing some odd blocks and changes to their firewalls given the upcoming 60th=
 celebrations of the creation of the Chinese state. Im also seeing increas=
iing Moose activity around my antennae in Alaska so fingers crossed there=
 too.
=20
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Turns out the&nbsp;Moose was a baby and the White antennae wire of the K9A=
Y was visible to him. Wonder if you have to change the wire color due to=
 seasonal changes! :-)&nbsp; Soon be time for the Black wire...snow levels=
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anges to their firewalls given the upcoming 60th celebrations of the creat=
ion of the Chinese state. Im also seeing increasiing Moose activity around=
 my antennae in Alaska so fingers crossed there too.<BR>&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;<B=
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Andrey and Lubos,

thank's for report and info !

73 de Gus SM6BHZ


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> Hi Gus, LF
> 
> 1802   -20 -0.9   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 1806   -16  0.9   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 1812   -12  0.7   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 1818   -17  0.8   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 1826   -15  1.1   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 1834   -17  0.6   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 1840   -16  0.8   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 1848   -10  0.8   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 1900   -19  1.0   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 1908   -11  0.7   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 
> 73
> Andrey
> 
> 
>




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OK Gus

today:

1954  -5  0.6   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 40
1956  -8  0.6   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 40
1958  -13  0.7   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 40
2000  -9  0.7   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 40
2002  -8  0.7   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 40
2004  -13  0.8   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 40
2006  -15  0.6   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 40
2008  -9  0.7   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 40
2016  -2  0.8   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 40
2022  -9  0.7   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 30
2028  -10  0.8   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 30
2036  -15  0.9   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 30
2040  -14  0.8   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 30
2044  -11  0.9   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 30
2050  -10  0.8   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 30
2058  -17  0.7   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 30
2106  -12  0.7   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 30
2112  -9  0.9   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 30

73



> Anderey,
> thank's report and info !
> Yesterday 21.30 i run 10 W erp, today i run only 1 W ERP and that is 
> probobly the reason !
> 
> 73 de Gus SM6BHZ
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Andrey rn3agc" <rn3agc@mail.ru>
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> Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 11:16 PM
> Subject: LF: Re: SM6BHZ WSPR
> 
> 
>> Hello Gus,
>> Today bad propagation to Moscow. Yesterday it was much better.
>> The most good your signal was yesterday at 21.32:
>>
>> 2132  1  -0.5   0.503931  SM6BHZ  JO57 40
>>
>> 73
>> Andrey 
> 
> 
> 
>


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On 02/09/2009 at 15:10 mal hamilton wrote:

>I was getting 579 from BOSTON/USA from NC1K on 137 khz over the years on
>CW=20
>which I thought was good using simple equipment like a manual morse key,=
=20
>home built mosfet class D TX/PA and an inv L antenna, also regular QSO'S=
=20
>with Russian stations. I am able to do the same on 500 KCS. I am surprise=
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>you have difficulty with my signal, I expect the problem is your end.

Even in the heart of the countryside you can still get all sorts of noises=
 off.  Last weekend was particularly difficult sometimes.

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For those who may want to experiment, WE2XGR/3 will run WOLF(10) tonight on 508.700 kHz from 2330 to 0230 UTC. The resulting "catfight" with WE2XGR/2 should make interesting aural listening in the NE U.S.!

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Dear LF Group,

Thanks for the reports - the WOLF beacon shut down at 0212utc.

Cheers, Jim moritz
73 de M0BMU


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Jim,

Having turned off the TX beacon I put the 500kHz RX on for a short while
just now. Since matching the antenna at the weekend (for my TXing) your
signals are *much* stronger here now than when I had previously heard you.

* 2009-09-16 07:12 ** G7NKS ** 0.503952 ** -12 ** 0 ** IO92ub ** 0.2 **
 G3XBM ** JO02dg ** 46 ** 60 *  2009-09-11 21:38  G7NKS  0.503941  -22  -1
 IO92ub  0.2  G3XBM  JO02dg  46  60   2009-09-08 07:12  G7NKS  0.503946
 -31  -1  IO92ub  1  G3XBM  JO02dg  46  60   2009-09-08 06:34  G7NKS
 0.503946  -32  -1  IO92ub  1  G3XBM  JO02dg  46  60   2009-09-08 06:04
 G7NKS  0.503946  -30  -1  IO92ub  1  G3XBM  JO02dg  46  60   2009-09-08
05:54  G7NKS  0.503946  -30  -1  IO92ub  1  G3XBM  JO02dg  46  60   2009-09-08
05:42  G7NKS  0.503946  -29  -1  IO92ub  1  G3XBM  JO02dg  46  60   2009-09-08
05:32  G7NKS  0.503946  -28  -1  IO92ub  1  G3XBM  JO02dg  46  60   2009-09-08
05:22  G7NKS  0.503946  -29  -1  IO92ub  1  G3XBM  JO02dg  46  60
It will be interesting to listen this evening to people like Gus and others
on 500kHz WSPR to see how much stronger they all are too.

73s
Roger G3XBM
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http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
G3XBM    GQRP 1678      ISWL G11088

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Thanks both of you for the nice reports.

I've been experimenting over the last couple of days and have finally
cracked it I think by changing from a Soundblaster 128 to a Yamaha sound
card. Now people can see me when signals are weak, and the calibration is
correct.
The new TX is working well too!

73
Dave G3YXM

2009/9/23 Piotr M=C5=82ynarski <sq7mpj@toya.net.pl>

> John P-G wrote:
>
>  Hello Dave, LF
>>
>> A new WSPR one for me!
>>
>> 1852 -26  1.2   0.503808  0 G3YXM IO92 27
>>
>> Nice to see you on the mode from Shetland,
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> John
>> GM4SLV
>>
>>  Hello Dave, LF  Group,
> I will follow John, GM4SLV  and  write the same statement: :
> Nice to see you on the mode from Poland
>
> 1946 -23  0.4   0.503812  0 G3YXM IO92 27
> 1946  -2  0.9   0.503931  0 SM6BHZ JO57 33
>
> I also asked  another ham , Matt, sq7dqx  ( he  lives  also in Lodz ) =
 to
>  start  wspr on MF  and he also  got a positive decoding of ur signal
> ( both decodes are sent to wspr database)
> It must be a good propagation  tonight on 500 khz
> Btw,  you just took away my 'odx' label from James, M0BMU   as far as th=
e
> wspr signals on 500 kHz are concerned but i do believe Jim  will forgive=
 you
> :)
> at this moment it is 1450 km  with 27dbm on your side  with my modest rx
> setup
> 11 turns  1sq. m loop "sitting' on my balcony  , followed by a simple tw=
o
> stage ( J310, BC109 )  buffer/amplif.  and ft857d
>
>                                                                       =
   73
> de Piotr, sq7mpj
> qth: Lodz /jo91rs/
>
>
>


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Thanks both of you for the nice reports.<br><br>I&#39;ve been experimentin=
g over the last couple of days and have finally cracked it I think by chan=
ging from a Soundblaster 128 to a Yamaha sound card. Now people can see me=
 when signals are weak, and the calibration is correct.<br>
The new TX is working well too!<br><br>73<br>Dave G3YXM<br><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote">2009/9/23 Piotr M=C5=82ynarski <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:sq7mpj@toya.net.pl">sq7mpj@toya.net.pl</a>&gt;</span><br><=
blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204,=
 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div class=3D"im">John P-G wrote:<br>
<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204,=
 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Hello Dave, LF<br>
<br>
A new WSPR one for me!<br>
<br>
1852 -26 =C2=A01.2 =C2=A0 0.503808 =C2=A00 G3YXM IO92 27<br>
<br>
Nice to see you on the mode from Shetland,<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
<br>
John<br>
GM4SLV<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div>
Hello Dave, LF =C2=A0Group,<br>
I will follow John, GM4SLV =C2=A0and =C2=A0write the same statement: :<br>
Nice to see you on the mode from Poland<br>
<br>
1946 -23 =C2=A00.4 =C2=A0 0.503812 =C2=A00 G3YXM IO92 27<br>
1946 =C2=A0-2 =C2=A00.9 =C2=A0 0.503931 =C2=A00 SM6BHZ JO57 33<br>
<br>
I also asked =C2=A0another ham , Matt, sq7dqx =C2=A0( he =C2=A0lives =C2=
=A0also in Lodz ) =C2=A0to =C2=A0start =C2=A0wspr on MF =C2=A0and he also=
 =C2=A0got a positive decoding of ur signal<br>
( both decodes are sent to wspr database)<br>
It must be a good propagation =C2=A0tonight on 500 khz<br>
Btw, =C2=A0you just took away my &#39;odx&#39; label from James, M0BMU =C2=
=A0 as far as the wspr signals on 500 kHz are concerned but i do believe=
 Jim =C2=A0will forgive you :)<br>
at this moment it is 1450 km =C2=A0with 27dbm on your side =C2=A0with my=
 modest rx setup<br>
11 turns =C2=A01sq. m loop &quot;sitting&#39; on my balcony =C2=A0, follow=
ed by a simple two stage ( J310, BC109 ) =C2=A0buffer/amplif. =C2=A0and ft=
857d<br>
<br>
 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=
 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A073 de Piotr, sq7mpj<br>
qth: Lodz /jo91rs/<br>
<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>G3YXM IO92BK Birmingha=
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Clemens and Graham,

thank's report info and file.

73 de Gus

  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Hi Gus,

  good copy with 49 in southern Germany JN68kj .
  I've sent you a mp3 file.

  73
  Clemens
  DL4RAJ
    ----- Original Message -----=20
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    Dear LF,

    this evening i test an SSB Beacon, QRG 508 kHz LSB.
    Reports are welcome.

    73 de Gus SM6BHZ
    www.sm6bhz.com




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You are stop to tx, Peter?
Whats a real FREQ?

* Peter Dodd <g3ldo@ukonline.co.uk> [Tue, 29 Sep 2009 22:54:54 +0100]:
> Many thanks for the report Roman
>
> Regards, Peter, G3LDO
> >
> >
> > Looking to your freq too!
> > qrss.nm.ru -> grabber 3 window 500-501.7
> > 3rd window. But SPL... Is not so sensitive then ARGO.
> > But I hope to see you.
> >
> > --
> > Roman RW3ADB.
> >
> >
> >
>
>




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Andy, LF

Many spots last night - here's just one of them

2352  -6  0.4   0.503851  0 G4JNT IO90 23

And I wasn't even the best DX!

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Dear Graham, LF Group,

> As the  European allocation looks to  be  wider than the  Uk, are we 
> expecting the  UK 3 Khz  allocation to  remain as is, if  and when the 
> band is formalised ?, in which case loosing 200 hz may not be the  most 
> sensible option ...

As I understand it, there are not yet any formal Europe-wide proposals, just 
what individual regulators have allocated on a case-by-case basis. I think 
G, EI, and ON have all allocated 501 - 504. The DL beacons and OK0EMW are 
licenced to use spot frequencies around 505kHz. Gus SM6BHZ would be able to 
use 504.0 - 504.1kHz.

>
> As by definition , if you  can transmit wspr  you  must be  able to  move 
> transmit  frequency (noting Andy's new beacon) establishing an over 
> lapping 100 hz section may be a reasonable  compromise ie move the  dial 
> frequency to say  502.5  or  499.5 , leaving 100 hz in band for uk access
>






>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "James Moritz" <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>
> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 2:14 PM
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Subject: LF: Re: US 500-kHz band plan
>
>>
>> Dear LF Group,
>>
>> I still haven't replied to Fritz Raab, W1FR, regarding the WD2XSH US band
>> plan which he is apparently coordinating - you may remember I posted the 
>> US
>> proposals, which he sent me, a couple of weeks ago, but have not received
>> any comments from other UK/Eu stations. I think I should reply with
>> something, so now is your chance... The proposal relates to the US
>> allocation extending to 495 - 515kHz, and how that would fit in with 
>> current
>> UK and Eu beacon operations. The content of the e-mail is below. The 
>> issue
>> is that they would like to make a 501.0 - 501.2kHz WSPR sub-band, to fit 
>> in
>> with the various other proposals. Various other types of beacon modes are
>> allocated frequencies outside the UK/EI/ON 501 - 504kHz range, while 
>> 501.2 -
>> 504kHz is allocated to "general comms". Retaining frequencies just below
>> 504kHz would divide their "general comms" band in two
>>
>> I don't think there is anything preventing us from doing this, it is just
>> the inconvenience of turning the current band "upside-down". Let me know
>> what you think!
>>
>> Cheers, Jim Moritz
>> 73 de M0BMU
>>
>>>>>From W1FR:
>>
>> Greetings:
>>
>>     Thanks for the comments on the band plan, passed
>> along to me by W1XP.
>>
>>     About a month ago, a modification to the WD2XSH
>> license was approved that adds stations and gives us
>> access to 495 - 510 kHz.  Perhaps half of the 42 stations
>> will eventually get on the air.  Because of NDBs, some
>> stations are limited to parts of this band and we will
>> have two calling frequencies and two beacon bands.
>>
>>     A draft of our new band plan follows.  Of particular
>> interest is WSPR.  As I see it, our options are:
>>
>> (a)  501.0-501.2:  Conveniently on one side of our comms
>>     band.  Will not overload WSPR receivers near 504 kHz.
>>     Apparently in EU CW-beacon band.
>>
>> (b)  503.8-504.0:  Apparently same as what you guys are
>>     using.  Cuts our comms band in the middle.  Nearby
>>     stations may overload US receivers trying to hear EUs.
>>
>> (c)  503.9-504.1:  Same problems as above with cutting
>>     comms band in two and overloading.  Conveniently
>>     straddles both G/ON/EI and Canadian bands.
>>
>>     Any further thoughts you may have will be
>> appreciated.
>>
>>
>> 73, Fritz, W1FR
>>
>> Frederick H. (Fritz) Raab, Ph.D.
>> GREEN MOUNTAIN RADIO RESEARCH COMPANY
>> 77 Vermont Avenue, Fort Ethan Allen
>> Colchester, Vermont 05446  USA
>> Tel./Fax.:  +1 (802) 655-9670  Home:  +1 (802) 862-0997
>> E-mail:  f.raab@ieee.org
>>
>> BASIC BAND PLAN for WD2XSH
>>
>> f, kHz          USE
>>
>> 495.0 - 495.1   QRSS, 1-Hz spacing, 40 stations
>> 495.1 - 495.6   CW/PSK beacons midwest, 100-Hz spacing, 10 stations
>> 495.6 - 499.0   Comms
>> 497.5           Calling frequency
>> 499.0 - 501.0   Reserved for heritage stations and special events
>> 501.0 - 501.2   WSPR
>> 501.2 - 505.0   Comms
>> 505.0 - 505.2   DX window
>> 505.2 - 508.5   Comms
>> 507.5           Calling frequency
>> 508.5 - 510.0   CW/PSK beacons east, south, west, Pacific, 50-Hz spacing, 
>> 30
>> stations
>> 510.0 - 511.0   WE2XGR beacons
>> 511.0 - 515.0   WE2XGR SSB and wideband modes
>>
>>
>> OTHER IN-BAND SIGNALS
>>
>> 503.976         NEED LSB
>> 505.0           NEED carrier
>> 506.024         NEED USB
>>
>> 508.976         OF/FA LSB
>> 510.0           OF/FA carrier
>> 511.024         OF/FA USB
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>>
>> No virus found in this incoming message.
>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>> Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.109/2384 - Release Date: 
>> 09/20/09 06:22:00
>>
>
>
> 



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Roman RW3ADB wrote:
> * Roman RW3ADB <rw3adb@rambler.ru> [Mon, 21 Sep 2009 00:12:08 +0400]:
>>
>> HI, Claude!
>> RN3AGC Andrey ask you trying to TX on 137777 up to 2-3 hours later.
>> Trying to see you in Moscow.
>> The grabbers started ON:
>> http://www.rn3agc.msk.ru/grabber1.shtml
>> http://qrss.nm.ru/grabber.html
>>
>
> You are traced onto RN3AGC grabber: 
> http://www.rn3agc.msk.ru/grabber1.shtml
> NIL onto my grabber.
>
> -- 
> Roman RW3ADB.
>
>
Hi, Glaude!

You see in Bryansk:
http://ra3yo.narod.ru/br00000.jpg


Dmitry
RA3YO
ko73dg


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>> Please check your keyboard - the shift key seems to be stuck!


Jim - I think it's more than his Shift key that is stuck...




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LF

Just received some short carriers + TEST G3YXM

Nice signal, 559 on 502.5kHz 1950UTC

The IC-718 was/is standing watch using the stock SSB filter :)

73

Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
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Dear John, Jim LF Group,


> Oddly though Jame's twin spots of Jim are 100Hz apart:
>
> M0BMU 0.503944
> M0BMU 0.503844

My signal is on a nominal 503840 centre frequency... I think what has 
happened is that, in this instance, G7NKS's RX has drifted up by 46Hz, 
taking the "proper" signal outside the range of WSPR, and so only the two 
USB residual sidebands are being decoded. If you look through the database, 
you will see some spots where the main sig is inside the WSPR range, giving 
3 spots with the lowest frequency one at a much higher level like this:

      2009-09-16 22:08   M0BMU   0.503951   -10   0   IO91vr   2   G7NKS 
IO92ub   38   351
       2009-09-16 22:08   M0BMU   0.503851   -11   1   IO91vr   2   G7NKS 
IO92ub   38   351
       2009-09-16 22:08   M0BMU   0.503801   +14   1   IO91vr   2   G7NKS 
IO92ub   38   351


This agrees with G7NKS's spots of SM6BHZ, which are shifted in frequency by 
about the same amount.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU 



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 2009-09-20 14:16  M0BMU  0.137067  -2  -1  IO91vr  0.2  G3XBM  JO02dg  69
 29
No great DX Jim, but you are getting to East Cambridgeshire OK on 137kHz.

73s
Roger G3XBM
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James, LF

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* mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net> [Sat, 19 Sep 2009 21:03:06 
+0100]:
> QSL UR O REPORT TNX QSO 73 TNX QSO GN DE MAL/G3KEV

TNX x-band QSO, Mal!
Prop is not bad.

73!
Roman

>
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> >* mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net> [Sat, 19 Sep 2009 20:37:34
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> >> Hi
> >> Roman
> >> Tnx O copy report, vy gud condx on 7033 fm Russia pse call again 
for
> > qso
> >> mal/g3kev
> >
> > Tried after every cycle of your tx.
> >
> > Only trace on 502.7 at moment.
> >
> > Roman
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> >> > Copy you OOO 502.570, but you are do not heard me on 40m.
> >> >
> >> > grabber is on 502.0 dial
> >> >
> >> > Roman
> >> >
> >> >> Now in CQ DX MODE 502.57 and QSX 7033 KCS for xband QSO'S
> >> >> G3KEV
> >> >
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 Overnight tonight I shall be running the WSPR beacon again in the hope that
a few more people may spot my tiny signal. It is on around 503.839kHz (83Hz
lower than Gus). As before, any reports would be much appreciated.

Best DX so far is still 69kms from M0BMU.

73s
Roger G3XBM

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 Overnight tonight I shall be running the WSPR beacon again in the hope th=
at a few more people may spot my tiny signal. It is on around 503.839kHz=
 (83Hz lower than Gus). As before, any reports would be much appreciated.=
 <br>
<br>Best DX so far is still 69kms from M0BMU.<br><br>73s<br>Roger G3XBM<br=
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<a href=3D"http://www.g3xbm.co.uk">http://www.g3xbm.co.uk</a><br>G3XBM =A0=
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* Roman RW3ADB <rw3adb@rambler.ru> [Sun, 20 Sep 2009 00:18:07 +0400]:
> * mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net> [Sat, 19 Sep 2009 21:03:06
> +0100]:
> > QSL UR O REPORT TNX QSO 73 TNX QSO GN DE MAL/G3KEV
>
> TNX x-band QSO, Mal!
> Prop is not bad.

Full report and all screen-shots put out on the web site:
http://qrss.nm.ru/500.html

My QSL via buro as usual next time.

Roman

>
> 73!
> Roman
>
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Roman RW3ADB" <rw3adb@rambler.ru>
> > To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> > Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2009 8:46 PM
> > Subject: Re: LF: NW CQ DX
> >
> >
> > >* mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net> [Sat, 19 Sep 2009 20:37:34
> > > +0100]:
> > >> Hi
> > >> Roman
> > >> Tnx O copy report, vy gud condx on 7033 fm Russia pse call again
> for
> > > qso
> > >> mal/g3kev
> > >
> > > Tried after every cycle of your tx.
> > >
> > > Only trace on 502.7 at moment.
> > >
> > > Roman
> > >
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: "Roman RW3ADB" <rw3adb@rambler.ru>
> > >> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> > >> Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2009 8:23 PM
> > >> Subject: Re: LF: NW CQ DX
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> > Hi Mal, LF!
> > >> > Copy you OOO 502.570, but you are do not heard me on 40m.
> > >> >
> > >> > grabber is on 502.0 dial
> > >> >
> > >> > Roman
> > >> >
> > >> >> Now in CQ DX MODE 502.57 and QSX 7033 KCS for xband QSO'S
> > >> >> G3KEV
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> >
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>



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opt-tee-mumish? These technical terms always confuse me....

;-)  Dave


2009/9/24 Laurence BY3A-KL1X China <hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com>

>  Red box means its either too low (or recommended level) or too high - if
> the box goes White its in the ballpark but Im told 0dB is opt-tee-mumish
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HI LF!

Special event http://www.qrz.com/db/HF70W
on 137.778.0 in Moscow now!
Better onto RN3AGC grabber: http://www.rn3agc.msk.ru/grabber1.shtml
My grabber started, but is not copy at moment: 
http://qrss.nm.ru/grabber.html

Visible onto DF6NM and F1AFJ grabbers too.

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Jim,

Yes your  right, the  onset  of  wspr  activity on the  500 has paved the 
way for  increased activity and  out  side interest, from previous data 
tests ran in the early  day of the  allocation, considerable  interest was 
shown  by data users , however, the  main problem being that all the  'new' 
modes requires audio to  carrier frequency translation and in some  cases 
transmit  chain linearity as well, which  tended to  prevent data operation 
by most  users , the  first  two way rtty  contact  required  the cw-fsk 
mode of a dds controlled transmitter to  produce the frequency shift .. not 
quite its intended function .. but did the job

We may be  watching a re run of the arguments surrounding the suite of  K1JT 
software , in that the point is made that you  don't 'actually'  have a qso 
, so  therefore its not communication in the true  sense.  But if the  need 
to  use wspr  results in more stations re configuring there  transmit paths 
to enable the frequency translation of audio to  rf carrier, then the mode 
has more than served its purpose ?

As Sail gave  way to  steam , so has  Antenna 'amps'  given way to CPU 
'amps'   ... but nothing  wrong with a sail boat ..hihi

G ..

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From: "James Cowburn" <james.cowburn@virgin.net>
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>
> Adding my thoughts to the debate, 500Khz and WSPR has rekindled my 
> interest
> in radio and I am learning lots in new areas.  As a G7 and not an expert 
> in
> CW, if CW was the only means of communication on the band then I would not
> have been as able to participate, experiment and learn as I have done with
> WSPR.  Additionally, the use of WSPR on other bands encouraged me on to 
> 500
> as I was definitely "weak signal" and now I am trying and enjoying CW QSOs
> too.
>
> The database and software allow the analysis and deduction of lots of info
> and data from the reports and their locations.
>
> For me it is not a case of CW vs WSPR (or indeed other data modes e.g. 
> WOLF)
> but far more having a go at them all in a challenging environment and 
> giving
> the old grey matter a bit of a "run out" and learning some new stuff into
> the bargain i.e. self training.
>
> As I have said in other posts, it whacks the pants off 20m SSB for sense 
> of
> achievement and enjoyment (as well as outright frustration!)
>
> I'm sure once we've all got WSPR sorted we'll be running WSJT in QSO mode
> and then we can exchange information as per the original poster's comment.
>
> Just my thoughts and YMMV
>
> With best regards
>
>
> Jim
>
>
> Dr. James Cowburn
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> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Peter Cleall
> Sent: 21 September 2009 14:18
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> Subject: LF: defence of WSPR Signals
>
> I have always been interested in propagation.
> These WSPR signals are seen by some as repetitious rubbish.
>
> If you use , WSPR, the Internet database and your own receptions you soon
> realise that there are subtle variations in signal particularly QSB that 
> are
> different over day/ night paths, transitions at dawn and dusk and
> differences on N/S and E/W paths. Northern stations seem favoured for E/W
> propagation and distance between stations also has an effect.
>
> At last we have software and a process for examining in near real time the
> subtlety of these variations. We can see the signal reports from many
> distances and directions at the same time. I think we will learn a lot 
> more
> over the winter if we continue with these tests. I would like to think 
> that
> in the future we could have some coordinated test times which would get a
> greater number of receiving participants available at the same time.
>
> Personally I have been working on propagation with WSPR for several months
> on 30m. But  the recent activity by Andy, Jim and others has resulted in 
> me
> hunting out my 137kHz equipment that has not been used for a couple of 
> years
> and rebuilding a converter to hear my first signals on 500khz , since the
> commercial stations disappeared. I can see from the other reports on the
> database that I need to do more work on Aerials and i suspect that I still
> have a lot to learn about signals and equipment overload. Thee existence 
> of
> a few known reference signals is essential to improving ones equipment and
> knowledge. I t think this is all part of the spirit of amateur radio for 
> our
> self education in radio techniques which is a major justification for us 
> to
> have licenses.
>
> regards
> peterG8AFN
>
>
> Sep 21, 2009 10:52:38 AM, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org wrote:
>
> ===========================================
>
> WSPR signals last evening copied from G4JNT, G4WGT, G7NKS and SM6BHZ on
> 500kHz. Also very strong signal during the day from M0BMU on 137kHz.My
> report of your DFCW signal on 137 the other day, Jim, had the wrong
> frequency - sorry about that, added the difference 20Hz rather than
> subtracted from my RX offset - should have been 137.68 of course.Tend to
> agree with Mal's comments, I am having difficulty in seeing the point of
> some of this when there is little in the way of exchanged information
> between stations. There is a place for beacons, certainly. What concerns 
> me
> is that the casual listener tuning across the band probably has no idea
> there's anybody on.Vy 73,Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent, JO01MI.
>
>
>



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* James Cowburn <james.cowburn@virgin.net> [Sun, 6 Sep 2009 22:48:11 
+0100]:
> Dear LF
>
> I've yet to finish my ant so still v compromise here and hence QRP. 
I'm
> getting the other 3 received and decoded ok though
>
> With best regards
>
>
> Jim
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of James Moritz
> Sent: 06 September 2009 21:52
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: LF: Re: WSPR beacon
>
> Dear Roman, LF Group,
>
> The signal on 503950Hz is SM6BHZ. G4WGT is on 503910 and G7NKS on 
503946
> (but very QRP).

Lose that message -(
OK.
Do not copy G7NKS, but copy you and SM6BHZ are very good!
2055 -23  1.3   0.505050  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
2101 -22  1.2   0.505050  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
2111 -28  1.3   0.505075  0 M0BMU IO91 37
2115 -23  1.4   0.505051  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
2115 -27  1.5   0.505075  0 M0BMU IO91 37
2123 -25  4.6   0.503975  0 M0BMU IO91 37
2127 -24  1.3   0.503951  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
2137 -30  1.4   0.503950  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
2137 -27  1.3   0.503975  0 M0BMU IO91 37
2149 -29  1.4   0.503951  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
2157 -24  1.6   0.503951  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
2157 -27  1.5   0.503975  0 M0BMU IO91 37
2203 -19  1.2   0.503951  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30

May be trying an x-band later on? Tomorrow? Or some later?

> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
>
>




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Hi,LF,
Capture BOJ,
Best 73s
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WSPR records for G7NKS SM6BHZ M0BMU (a small selection). I'm amazed that I
can copy Gus and Jim at the same time, as Jim is 40dB over S9 on the ICOM
RX.

Sadly, no sign of Roger so far, but I'll leave it running over night.

2118  13  0.9   0.503841  0 M0BMU IO91 33
2118 -16  1.0   0.503926  0 SM6BHZ JO57 33
2120 -17  1.6   0.503945 -1 G7NKS IO92 23
2124  15  1.0   0.503841  0 M0BMU IO91 33
2130 -16  1.5   0.503944 -1 G7NKS IO92 23
2132  15  0.9   0.503841  0 M0BMU IO91 33
2134 -10  1.0   0.503926  0 SM6BHZ JO57 33
2138 -16  1.6   0.503942 -1 G7NKS IO92 23
2140  14  0.8   0.503841  0 M0BMU IO91 33
2140 -18  1.1   0.503926  0 SM6BHZ JO57 33

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
  -----Original Message-----
  From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB
  Sent: 16 September 2009 19:05
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
  Subject: LF: G7NKS WSPR


  WSPR record for G7NKS. Looking for others!

  1658  -8  0.8   0.503942 -1 G7NKS IO92 23
  1720  -4  0.7   0.503944 -1 G7NKS IO92 23
  1732  -5  0.9   0.503942 -1 G7NKS IO92 23
  1740  -4  0.9   0.503942  1 G7NKS IO92 23
  1749  -7  1.6   0.503948 -1 G7NKS IO92 23


  73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor, S.E. England


    -----Original Message-----
    From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Roger Lapthorn
    Sent: 16 September 2009 15:48
    To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
    Subject: LF: G3XBM 500kHz WSPR beacon back on - any stronger?


    Good Folks,

    Have made some quick changes to the 500kHz antenna and ground system
(now using my 10m halo and feed now as a short vertical with top capacity
loading and using the 15m long-wire as a radial along with the central
heating ground) and am putting the WSPR beacon back on shortly. Interested
to know if the changes have made much difference. Antenna current is higher
so I hope it will radiate a some more. Reports and screenshots gratefully
received.

    On RX, G7NKS is about the same S/N as this morning before the changes.
Not quite sure what this is telling me.

    BTW, I know I drift upwards about 50Hz for about 20 mins as the
transverter xtal oscillator settles.

    73s
    Roger G3XBM

    -------------------------------------------------------------
    http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/
    http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
    G3XBM    GQRP 1678      ISWL G11088

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night.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><BR><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>2118&nbsp; 13&nbs=
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0.9&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503841&nbsp; 0 M0BMU IO91 33<BR>2118 -16&nbsp; 1.0&n=
bsp;&nbsp;=20
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G7NKS IO92 23<BR>2124&nbsp; 15&nbsp; 1.0&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503841&nbsp; 0=
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1.6&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503942 -1 G7NKS IO92 23<BR>2140&nbsp; 14&nbsp; 0.8&n=
bsp;&nbsp;=20
0.503841&nbsp; 0 M0BMU IO91 33<BR>2140 -18&nbsp; 1.1&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503=
926&nbsp;=20
0 SM6BHZ JO57 33</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D273595219-16092009><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000=
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Dave G3WCB IO91RM</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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=3DTahoma     size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
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  [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Dave=
=20
  G3WCB<BR><B>Sent:</B> 16 September 2009 19:05<BR><B>To:</B>=20
  rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> LF: G7NKS=20
  WSPR<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN class=3D24425=
1917-16092009>WSPR=20
  record for G7NKS. Looking for others!</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>1658&nbsp; -8&nbsp;=
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>1720&nbsp; -4&nbsp;=
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>1732&nbsp; -5&nbsp;=
 0.9&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  0.503942 -1 G7NKS IO92 23<BR>1740&nbsp; -4&nbsp; 0.9&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>1749&nbsp; -7&nbsp;=
 1.6&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  0.503948 -1 G7NKS IO92 23<BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D244251917-16092009><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#00=
00ff size=3D2>73,=20
  Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor, S.E. England</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial><BR><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT></=
FONT></DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE>
    <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT fac=
e=3DTahoma       size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=
=20
    owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
    [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Rog=
er=20
    Lapthorn<BR><B>Sent:</B> 16 September 2009 15:48<BR><B>To:</B>=20
    rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> LF: G3XBM 500kHz=
 WSPR beacon=20
    back on - any stronger?<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>Good Folks,<BR><BR>Hav=
e made=20
    some quick changes to the 500kHz antenna and ground system (now us=
ing my 10m=20
    halo and feed now as a short vertical with top capacity loading an=
d using=20
    the 15m long-wire as a radial along with the central heating groun=
d) and am=20
    putting the WSPR beacon back on shortly. Interested to know if the=
 changes=20
    have made much difference. Antenna current is higher so I hope it=
 will=20
    radiate a some more. Reports and screenshots gratefully received.<=
BR><BR>On=20
    RX, G7NKS is about the same S/N as this morning before the changes=
. Not=20
    quite sure what this is telling me.<BR><BR>BTW, I know I drift upw=
ards about=20
    50Hz for about 20 mins as the transverter xtal oscillator=20
    settles.<BR><BR>73s<BR>Roger G3XBM<BR       clear=3Dall><BR>------=
-------------------------------------------------------<BR><A       hr=
ef=3D"http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/">http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/</=
A><BR><A       href=3D"http://www.g3xbm.co.uk">http://www.g3xbm.co.uk<=
/A><BR>G3XBM &nbsp;=20
    &nbsp;GQRP 1678 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;ISWL=20
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On 16 Sep 2009 at 7:56, Roger Lapthorn wrote:

> Hi folks,
> 
> My WSPR beacon is closing shortly. Thanks for reports this morning from
> M0BMU, and from G3XVL and G6ALB yesterday. No others as yet.
> 
> Later today, and before my holiday away, I hope to try a couple of quick
> and simple changes to the antenna and ground that may result in a
> slightly greater antenna current. All being well, the beacon will be on
> again later this afternoon and overnight tonight. Any reports would be
> greatly appreciated so I can compare performance.
> 
> Further improvements will have to then wait until October.
> 
> 73s
> Roger G3XBM

I listened again last night Roger between 1920 and 2020z and not a 
trace of you on the waterfall. SM6BHZ and G7NKS were coming in as 
normal, though Gus's signal seemed well down on what it was the night 
before, mostly down about -10dB with the occasional peak to 0dB (Monday 
he was consistently +2 to +4dB). So maybe 'excellent conditions' to DL 
land but not so to Bracknell...

73 Dave G3YMC

http://www.davesergeant.com



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I usually go to the wspr database on line and see what frequencies are being reported by others for the station I have heard.

Then I average the reports and adjust my RX until it gives the average figure on my decodes.
regards
peter


Sep 5, 2009 10:09:15 PM, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org wrote:

===========================================

On 5 Sep 2009 at 20:56, James Moritz wrote:

> Dear LF Group,
> 
> The WSPR beacon is now running again on 503.975kHz (502.4kHz "dial
> frequency"). Any reports would be very welcome.
> 
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU 
> 
> 

Well I seem to be copying something, but no decode of you Jim...

2012 -10  2.1   0.504019  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2022  -3  1.7   0.503978  0 G4WGT IO83 27
2026 -10  1.8   0.504022  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2034  -8  2.2   0.503923  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2038 -12  1.8   0.503922  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2044 -12  2.1   0.503920 -1 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2048 -12  1.9   0.503919 -1 SM6BHZ JO57 40

Don't pay much attention to the frequencies as I had been playing about 
a bit. Also not sure what frequencies Gus and Gary are actually on - I 
thought Gus was just above 504 but it seems Jim is a bit higher up, so 
I guess Gus has moved down below now.

OK, switching off for tonight...

73 Dave G3YMC

http://www.davesergeant.com




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Hi Graham, LF,
=20
Well here looking at WSPR with Spectrum Lab running the other week I=
 came to
the conclusion that:
=20
1. Adjusting the input level to the PC such that WSPR indicates a Nois=
e
level of 0dB corresponds to -60dBfs in Spectrum Lab.
2. A signal reported as -30dB in WSPR will measure -60dBfs in Spectrum=
 Lab,
and be indistingushable from the noise.
3. A signal reported as 0dB in WSPR will measure -30dBfs in Spectrum=
 Lab
4. A signal reported as +10dB will measure -20dBfs in Spectrum Lab.
5. Raising the Noise level reported by WSPR to +10dB will correspond=
 to
-50dBfs in Spectrum Lab. But this only reduces the dynamic range of WS=
PR.
=20
To me it appears WSPR prefers the Noise floor to be around -60dBfs giv=
ing it
a 30dB margin over the A/D theoretical noise floor.
=20
These tests were done during the day, when there was little QRN and QS=
B.
AGC off, and sufficient RF attenuation to achieve 0dB Noise level repo=
rted
by WSPR.
=20
73,
Lee M0LMH.
=20
=20
=20

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham
Sent: 23 September 2009 21:41
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: s/n shown by wspr .... what is it actually showing ?


Just watched Dave's G3YXM  wspr  signal on spec-lab ,=20
=20
Spec-lab showed the  signal to  be a constant  20 dB over the back gro=
und
noise floor  of the  rx=20
so in my  book that's 20 dB  s/n  =20
=20
The  wspr  decode is  showing -3 dB s/n ?
=20
What is it  actually  displaying ?
=20
G ..=20
=20
=20
=20

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<DIV><SPAN class=3D459435120-23092009><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2=
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D459435120-23092009><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2=
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D459435120-23092009><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2=
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D459435120-23092009><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2=
 face=3DArial>1.=20
Adjusting the input level to the PC such that WSPR indicates a Noise=
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0dB corresponds to -60dBfs in Spectrum Lab.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D459435120-23092009>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D459435120-23092009><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2=
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D459435120-23092009><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2=
 face=3DArial>2. A=20
signal reported as -30dB in WSPR will measure -60dBfs in Spectrum Lab,=
 and be=20
indistingushable from the noise.</FONT></SPAN></DIV></FONT></SPAN></DI=
V><FONT  face=3DArial><FONT color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2><SPAN  clas=
s=3D459435120-23092009>3</SPAN>. A signal reported as 0dB in WSPR will=
 measure=20
-30dBfs in Spectrum Lab</FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D459435120-23092009><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2=
 face=3DArial>4. A=20
signal reported as +10dB will measure -20dBfs in Spectrum=20
Lab.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D459435120-23092009><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2=
 face=3DArial>5.=20
Raising the Noise level reported by WSPR to +10dB will correspond to=
 -50dBfs in=20
Spectrum Lab. But this only reduces the dynamic range of=20
WSPR.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D459435120-23092009><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2=
  face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D459435120-23092009><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2=
 face=3DArial>To me=20
it appears WSPR prefers the Noise floor to be around -60dBfs giving it=
 a 30dB=20
margin over the A/D theoretical noise floor.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D459435120-23092009><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2=
  face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D459435120-23092009><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2=
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tests were done during the day, when there was little QRN and=20
QSB.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D459435120-23092009><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2=
 face=3DArial>AGC=20
off, and sufficient RF attenuation to achieve 0dB Noise level reported=
 by=20
WSPR.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D459435120-23092009></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D459435120-23092009><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2=
  face=3DArial>73,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D459435120-23092009><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2=
 face=3DArial>Lee=20
M0LMH.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D459435120-23092009><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2=
  face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D459435120-23092009>&nbsp;</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D459435120-23092009><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2=
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t><FONT size=3D2    face=3DTahoma>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>Fro=
m:</B>=20
  owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@black=
sheep.org]=20
  <B>On Behalf Of </B>Graham<BR><B>Sent:</B> 23 September 2009=20
  21:41<BR><B>To:</B> rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR><B>Subject:</B>=
 LF: s/n=20
  shown by wspr .... what is it actually showing ?<BR><BR></FONT></DIV=
>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Just watched Dave's G3YXM &nbsp;wsp=
r&nbsp; signal=20
  on spec-lab , </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Spec-lab showed the&nbsp; signal to=
&nbsp; be a=20
  constant&nbsp; 20 dB over the back ground noise floor&nbsp; of the&n=
bsp; rx=20
  </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>so in my&nbsp; book that's 20 dB&nb=
sp;=20
  s/n&nbsp;&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>The&nbsp; wspr&nbsp; decode is&nbsp=
; showing -3=20
  dB s/n ?</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>What is it&nbsp; actually&nbsp; dis=
playing=20
  ?</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>G .. </FONT></DIV>
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Hello Gerhard. Marco and LF
Thank you to you both for very good ... now repport station here that starts 
to work well ..... I'm in QSO with F6BWO jet arriving here very strong ...
Good Sunday to enjoy a qso ..
F8boj Claude JN16WA .. ..
L inv 172m 32m ground .....
zl1bpu exciter...group's irfp450 ...
73 s
----- Original Message ----- 
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> Good morning,
> Good signal of Claude also in JN49ax.
> Rx here Miniwhip ant., FT857 with Preamp.
> Unfortuantely my TX ant, is down until Nov/Dec..
> Vy73
> Marco
> DD7PC
>
>
> ----- Originalnachricht -----
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> An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Gesendet: Sun Sep 13 09:50:44 2009
> Betreff: LF: F8BOJ 137740
>
> Hello group!
>
> Just saw F8BOJ 20db over noise in JN88hl.
> I can't get back to him because I haven't got at TX yet.
> I completed my antenna yesterday.
> I is about 80m of wire in avg. 10m above ground (600pf) and a 2,2mH
> coil. RX is TS440S with selective Preamp.
>
> Cheers and 73
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> OE3GHB
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Hi John, LF,
The one I use is ExpressPCB (for boards) & ExpressSCH (for schematics) both
free, they may be suitable.

Go to - http://www.expresspcb.com/

<http://www.expresspcb.com/>73

Gary - G4WGT.



2009/9/25 John RABSON <john.rabson@numeo.fr>

> LF, Dave,
>
> John Hey, G3TDZ, has produced a prototype of a new version of the cave
> radio which is named after him, and looking for recommendations for CAD
> software for PCB layout.
>
> He doesn't need anything fancy - most packages he has looked at do much
> more than he wants and are too complicated.
>
> The software must be cheap (ideally free or shareware) and the file formats
> must not be tied to a particular PCB manufacturer.
>
> For details of the design see his article "A Prototype Cave Radio to Avoid
> Loran Interference", CREG Journal issue 72 pp4 to 6, August 2009.
>
> Any suggestions, please?
>
> 73
> John F5VLF
>
>
>
>
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Hi John, LF,<div><br></div><div>The one I use is ExpressPCB (for boards)=
 &amp; ExpressSCH (for schematics) both free, they may be suitable.=A0</di=
v><div><br></div><div>Go to -=A0<a href=3D"http://www.expresspcb.com/">htt=
p://www.expresspcb.com/</a></div>
<div><br></div><div><a href=3D"http://www.expresspcb.com/"></a>73</div><di=
v><br></div><div>Gary - G4WGT.</div><div><br></div><div><br><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote">2009/9/25 John RABSON <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:john.rabson@numeo.fr">john.rabson@numeo.fr</a>&gt;</span><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1=
px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">LF, Dave,<br>
<br>
John Hey, G3TDZ, has produced a prototype of a new version of the cave rad=
io which is named after him, and looking for recommendations for CAD softw=
are for PCB layout.<br>
<br>
He doesn&#39;t need anything fancy - most packages he has looked at do muc=
h more than he wants and are too complicated.<br>
<br>
The software must be cheap (ideally free or shareware) and the file format=
s must not be tied to a particular PCB manufacturer.<br>
<br>
For details of the design see his article &quot;A Prototype Cave Radio to=
 Avoid Loran Interference&quot;, CREG Journal issue 72 pp4 to 6, August 20=
09.<br>
<br>
Any suggestions, please?<br>
<br>
73<br>
John F5VLF<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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Dear Andrey, Markus
Thanks for raport. I calling QRSS3, 10  and 60.
Vy 73!
Marcin SQ2BXI

> Hi Marcin, Andrey,
>
> nice signal from HF70W also here in Nuernberg tonight.
>
> Andrey: Donebach 153 kHz seemed perfectly clean from here, so it's
probably "Luxembourg" intermodulation onto the DCF39 carrier
> which is causing trouble again.
>
> Best wishes,
> Markus (DF6NM)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Andrey rn3agc" <rn3agc@mail.ru>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 10:17 PM
> Subject: LF: Re: HF70W_QSO
>
>
> Hello Lubos, Marcin,
> I saw traces from signals. But here the strongest
> QRM from broadcasting station to 21z (153 khz).
>
> 73 Andrey
>
>
> >
> > Hello MArcin, LF!
> > Thanks for very nice QSO, I am pleased. Your signal was fine - see the
picture.
> >
> > 73!
> >
> > Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS
> >
>



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All being well I am now ready to RX on WOLF on 502.5kHz (USB dial freq). Is
anyone planning to TX using WOLF this evening?

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Jim, LF,

Moved up 10Hz.

Gary - G4WGT.

2009/9/3 James Moritz <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>:
> Dear LF Group,
>
> Am now QRV in WSPR mode on 503.975kHz, 502.4kHz "dial frequency". Also=
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> signals from G4WGT, G0NBD, and SM6BHZ at the moment. I see Gary and Grah=
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> seem =A0to be on exactly the same frequency, so will double occasionally=
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> reports would be very welcome.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
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Hi, Graham,

I listened but couldn't hear it at this QTH. But then I have a high noise
level due to ADSL hash...

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
  -----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Graham
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  Was I the  only station to  rx this  cw beacon ... who was sending it ?

  G ..


  From: Graham
  Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 8:37 PM
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  Subject: LF: CW beacon qrp on 5033 ?


  Who is  running a qrp beacon on 503.3  ... very low in to  io83lk, some
thing about  5 ..? .. watts and a loop ae might of  copied  G0WSJ but  could
be wrong .. signal is just showing at Birmingham ..  not at G4WGT grabber
and  very low in the  noise at Wallasey ..  ..looks like it has  closed ?

  Beacon text is very long ... would be better with simple vvvv  test  de
gxxxx  gxxxx gxxxx   etc as qsb and static kept  knocking bits out of the
text .... at least it  proved the  rx set up  works !

  Graham

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  <DIV><B>Subject:</B> LF: CW beacon qrp on 5033 ?</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Who is&nbsp; running a qrp beacon=
 on 503.3&nbsp;=20
  ... very low in to&nbsp; io83lk, some thing about&nbsp; 5 ..? .. wat=
ts and a=20
  loop ae might of&nbsp; copied&nbsp; G0WSJ but&nbsp; could be wrong=
 .. signal=20
  is just showing at Birmingham ..&nbsp; not at G4WGT grabber &nbsp;an=
d&nbsp;=20
  very low in the&nbsp; noise at Wallasey ..&nbsp;&nbsp;..looks like=
 it=20
  has&nbsp; closed ? </FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Beacon text is very long ... would=
 be better with=20
  simple vvvv&nbsp; test&nbsp; de gxxxx&nbsp; gxxxx gxxxx&nbsp;&nbsp;=
 etc as qsb=20
  and static kept&nbsp; knocking bits out of the&nbsp; text .... at le=
ast=20
  it&nbsp; proved the&nbsp; rx set up&nbsp; works !</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Graham</FONT></DIV>
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Hello LF!

2240  -5  1.1   1.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 33
2240 -25  0.4   1.503950  0 M0LMH IO93 20
2244 -24  0.9   1.503911  0 G4WGT IO83 27

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Hello LF!<br><br>2240&nbsp; -5&nbsp; 1.1&nbsp;&nbsp; 1.503925&nbsp; 0 SM6BHZ JO57 33<br>2240 -25&nbsp; 0.4&nbsp;&nbsp; 1.503950&nbsp; 0 M0LMH IO93 20<br>2244 -24&nbsp; 0.9&nbsp;&nbsp; 1.503911&nbsp; 0 G4WGT IO83 27<br><br>Lubos, OK2BVG<br>                    <br /><hr />Přetáhněte si fotografie přímo do chatu v Messenger. Jak se do dělá. <a href='http://download.live.com/messenger' target='_new'>Klikni zde!</a></body>
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Hi Gus!
2114 -19  0.6   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 33

The grabber started on 503 around and 502.35 dial.

Roman


> Hi Lubos,
>
> thanks report and info !
>
> 73 de Gus SM6BHZ
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Lubos OK2BVG
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>   Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2009 9:17 PM
>   Subject: LF: WSPR_BHZ_WGT
>
>
>   Hello Gus, Gary, LF!
>   I am back from my vacation and QRV on 600m:
>
>   1850 -9 0.8 1.503925 0 SM6BHZ JO57 33
>   1858 -23 1.2 1.503911 0 G4WGT IO83 27
>
>   Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS
>
>
>
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Dear Laurence, LF group,

This is amazing.  Well done Laurence!

73
Joe VO1NA

On Mon, 14 Sep 2009, Laurence BY3A-KL1X China wrote:

>
>
>
> Gus, LF - GE
>
>
>
> One successful decode from the "B" SDR IQ receiver and  Dell 630
>
>
>
> 2050  -29  0.9  0.503925  0  SMBHZ JO57 40  (reported as BY3X)
>
>
>
> Im definately getting better decodes on the SDR/D630 than the R75/Dell 610. Whether this is a result of the  A>D loss which the R75 analogue incurs  coming down to audio etc - or a true receiver artifact remains to be seen, but its the same on HF as well - Ill swop them over, or parts of the system and will try to see where the improvement is.
>
>
>
> Now I know absolutely know that for my listening pleasure the R75 knocks spots on sensitivity and other filtering/AGC/NB over the SDR IQ  -  but in a highly processed, right on the edge -29/-30 world, heavy noise environment with plenty of RF perhaps the pure D to D SDR makes that little difference.  Or it could really be the processing power and divisors between the two computers....lots of variables here so Im still not sure.
>
>
>
> Its was really noisy and surprised to get anything -there is a large Typhoon between Hainan Island and Hong Kong which appears to be the largest noise maker.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Laurence in BY3A
>
> just dawn now in  E China.
>
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Dear Graham, LF Group,

If an error in sample rate was causing the error in the transmission timing, 
it would also lead to an error of the same percentage in the audio 
frequencies being generated during transmission. I.e. if transmission was 
about 2% short, the transmitted frequency would be about 30Hz higher than 
the nominal value, with an audio frequency around 1500Hz. Likewise the 
reported frequencies on receive would be about 30Hz lower than expected. Do 
you recall if this was the case?

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU

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> Jim,
>
> Re the  size of error
>
> With the  delta-4 card, the  tx frame could be observed to  be  some  2 or 
> more seconds short of the  expected time  window
>
> 1 % ~  1.2 seconds , 2 %  ~ 2.4  seconds, assumedly indicating the clock 
> on the  card runs fast, but as to the  influence of the system by the 
> software, dma, irq etc  Im not  sure, one problem is I expect is the 
> soundcards are not  designed to be the  interface for  a accurate 
> frequency meter / generator and as such compromises 'must' exist ...



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Beckmann, Gerhard wrote:
> Hello Jim,
> 
> signal good copied this evening!
> 
> 73's  de Gerhard  //  DK6NI  (JN59LN)
> 
> 21:40:34 >WOLF RESTARTED
> t:  24 f:-0.527 a:-0.4 dp:102.0 ci:11 cj:256 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
> t:  48 f:-0.524 a:-0.6 dp: 99.7 ci:13 cj:256 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
> 
> ============================================================================


Jim, LF

Not quite so good here now, some QSB, doesn't decode on the first 24 or 
48 seconds. It's still very robust after 96 seconds though!

2009-09-09 21:49:42 >WOLF10  -r 7997.017 -f 1000 -t 1.0 -d 5 -w 0.0000
t:  24 f: 0.300 a: 0.3 dp:109.7 ci: 0 cj:  0 2Z I I.7IFX4.J/ ?
t:  48 f: 0.296 a: 0.6 dp:111.7 ci: 1 cj:  0 /1IAWCWNG4/.5 5 ?
t:  96 f: 0.297 a: 0.5 dp:113.5 ci:15 cj:124 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t: 192 f: 0.293 pm: 7696 jm:713 q:  9.5  9.4 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t: 288 f: 0.293 pm:12637 jm:713 q: 12.6 12.9 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -



Will leave the decoder running all night and post some results tomorrow.

Goodnight,

John
GM4SLV


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OK Jim, many thanks!
I will be on 137,1 till the morning. Results I will inform tomorrow.
Or there can be they will in wsprnet.org

73 Andrey


> Dear Markus, Andrey, LF Group,
> 
> I am now running the WSPR beacon again on 135.5kHz "dial frequency", 
> 137.090kHz RF out. Hopefully, this will be within range of Markus' receiver, 
> and also near enough to 137.1k for Andrey.
> 
> If anyone else is going to be on 137k tonight, I can set the RX to monitor 
> their QRG - if not, I could put the RX on 500kHz again.
> 
> Looking at Markus' grabber tonight, it is nearly a white-out (or rather 
> green-out ;-)) due to the loud QRN, but we will see.
> 
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU 
> 
>


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Hi Dave!

Thanks a lot for the infos and the link to your website.
I'm reading your 500kHz pages now - interesting to know facts about the history of this slice of the spectrum.

By the way, there might have been a misunderstanding when I wrote "...wspr...sounds like CW..." Of course I meant it in a rather literally sense: 
A Continuous Wave = a more or less constant carrier without very obvious modulation, at least to my ear/brain audio processing.

> Not quite Dennis. A WSPR transmission period is 114 secs
So I was not that very bad, estimating it to 115sec!

> Just got bored and turned the WSPR monitor off
I'm going to switch the RX on now for some minutes. :)

vy73
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The China http://kl1x.com/2dx00000.jpg grabber, and  Alaska   http://kl1x.=
com/dx00000.jpg grabbers will be on auto over the next 9 days or so, and=
 hopefully under remote control from elsewhere in the globe.=20

=20

I cant guarantee stability or access to the China grabber as "they" are do=
ing some odd blocks and changes to their firewalls given the upcoming 60th=
 celebrations of the creation of the Chinese state. Im also seeing increas=
iing Moose activity around my antennae in Alaska so fingers crossed there=
 too.

=20

=20

Laurence KL1 X in By3A

OM89UA China

http://kl1x.com

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_________________________________________________________________
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The China <A href=3D"http://kl1x.com/2dx00000.jpg">http://kl1x.com/2dx0000=
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&nbsp;<BR>
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LF,

I have been having e-mail problems and may miss some recent discussions.=
  Someone asked me how I could identify a WSPR signal without a decoder:

The times and frequencies of transmission were known.  I saw nothing else=
 remotely similar on the band.

The bandwidth was about 6Hz with Argo set to 10s dots.

Posting reports on the reflector elicited confirmation that I was receivin=
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John F5VLF
PS sorry for terseness.  I haven't been sleeping well and currently feel=
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John,

About 160m, yes I can give this a go. I can run more (but still QRP!) power
on 160m. I could set this running later this morning and leave running until
this evening when I'll go back to 500kHz.

73s
Roger G3XBM

2009/9/15 John P-G <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk>

> Roger Lapthorn wrote:
>
>>  Overnight tonight I shall be running the WSPR beacon again in the hope
>> that
>> a few more people may spot my tiny signal.
>>
>
> Roger, LF,
>
> Still no copy here, but it's early days!
>
> I've moved the MF WSPR receiver to 160m if you fancy a daytime test on that
> band, as a comparison?
>
> Dial = 1.8366MHz
>
> Will leave it running and reporting spots while I'm at work.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> John
> GM4SLV
>
>
>


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John,<br><br>About 160m, yes I can give this a go. I can run more (but sti=
ll QRP!) power on 160m. I could set this running later this morning and le=
ave running until this evening when I&#39;ll go back to 500kHz.<br><br>73s=
<br>
Roger G3XBM<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/9/15 John P-G <span dir=
=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk">gm4slv@sight=
hound.demon.co.uk</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" styl=
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<div class=3D"im">Roger Lapthorn wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204,=
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=A0Overnight tonight I shall be running the WSPR beacon again in the hope=
 that<br>
a few more people may spot my tiny signal.<br>
</blockquote>
<br></div>
Roger, LF,<br>
<br>
Still no copy here, but it&#39;s early days!<br>
<br>
I&#39;ve moved the MF WSPR receiver to 160m if you fancy a daytime test on=
 that band, as a comparison?<br>
<br>
Dial =3D 1.8366MHz<br>
<br>
Will leave it running and reporting spots while I&#39;m at work.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
<br>
John<br>
GM4SLV<br>
<br>
<br>
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Hi Jim!
Looked your trace in mode-120: 
http://rw3adb.narod.ru/2009/20sep2009_M0BMU_137WSPR/135.5W_120_00008.jpg
3d window on the grabber.

Roman

* James Moritz <james.moritz@btopenworld.com> [Sun, 20 Sep 2009 14:17:19 
+0100]:
> Dear LF Group,
>
> The M0BMU WSPR beacon is now running on 135.5kHz "dial frequency",
> 137.0kHz
> RF out. Note change of frequency to try to avoid DCF39/HGA22 
sidebands,
> which some stations experience problems with. Any reports over the 
next
> few
> hours would be very welcome.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
>




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I have always been interested in propagation.
These WSPR signals are seen by some as repetitious rubbish.

 If you use , WSPR, the Internet database and your own receptions you soon realise that there are subtle variations in signal particularly QSB that are different over day/ night paths, transitions at dawn and dusk and differences on N/S and E/W paths. Northern stations seem favoured for E/W propagation and distance between stations also has an effect.

At last we have software and a process for examining in near real time the subtlety of these variations. We can see the signal reports from many distances and directions at the same time. I think we will learn a lot more over the winter if we continue with these tests. I would like to think that in the future we could have some coordinated test times which would get a greater number of receiving participants available at the same time.

Personally I have been working on propagation with WSPR for several months on 30m. But  the recent activity by Andy, Jim and others has resulted in me hunting out my 137kHz equipment that has not been used for a couple of years and rebuilding a converter to hear my first signals on 500khz , since the commercial stations disappeared. I can see from the other reports on the database that I need to do more work on Aerials and i suspect that I still have a lot to learn about signals and equipment overload. Thee existence of a few known reference signals is essential to improving ones equipment and knowledge. I t think this is all part of the spirit of amateur radio for our self education in radio techniques which is a major justification for us to have licenses.

regards
peterG8AFN


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WSPR signals last evening copied from G4JNT, G4WGT, G7NKS and SM6BHZ on 500kHz. Also very strong signal during the day from M0BMU on 137kHz.My report of your DFCW signal on 137 the other day, Jim, had the wrong frequency - sorry about that, added the difference 20Hz rather than subtracted from my RX offset - should have been 137.68 of course.Tend to agree with Mal's comments, I am having difficulty in seeing the point of some of this when there is little in the way of exchanged information between stations. There is a place for beacons, certainly. What concerns me is that the casual listener tuning across the band probably has no idea there's anybody on.Vy 73,Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent, JO01MI.


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Looks like over 2500km, thanks!

Dave

2009/9/23 Andrey rn3agc <rn3agc@mail.ru>

> KO85sv
>
>
>
>  Thanks Andrey
>> What is your locator square?
>>
>> 73
>> Dave
>>
>> 2009/9/23 Andrey rn3agc <rn3agc@mail.ru>
>>
>>  Hello Dave, LF,
>>>
>>> 2026   -29  0.6   0.503808  G3YXM IO92 27
>>>
>>> 73 Andrey
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK
>>
>>
> 73 Andrey
>
>


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Looks like over 2500km, thanks!<br><br>Dave<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quo=
te">2009/9/23 Andrey rn3agc <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rn3agc=
@mail.ru">rn3agc@mail.ru</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quot=
e" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt=
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KO85sv<div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
<br>
<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204,=
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Thanks Andrey<br>
What is your locator square?<br>
<br>
73<br>
Dave<br>
<br>
2009/9/23 Andrey rn3agc &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rn3agc@mail.ru" target=3D"_b=
lank">rn3agc@mail.ru</a>&gt;<br>
<br>
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Hello Dave, LF,<br>
<br>
2026 =A0 -29 =A00.6 =A0 0.503808 =A0G3YXM IO92 27<br>
<br>
73 Andrey<br>
<br>
<br>
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<br>
<br>
-- <br>
G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
<br></div></div>
73 Andrey<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>G3YXM IO92BK Birmingha=
m UK<br>

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Johan H. Bodin wrote:
> mal hamilton wrote:
>> Maybe u like FICTION I like FACTS
> 
> Mal, please have a look at the FACTS at:
> 
>   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shannon-Hartley_theorem

A better Wikipedia page for Mal to read is:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hubris



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mal hamilton wrote:
> Tim
> Test ur antenna and cw.
> Can u hear my CW on 502.6
> de mal/g3kev
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "tim hague" <m0afj@dsl.pipex.com>
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>> Have my Rx on 500kHz (dial 502.4) immediately got copy of G7NKS, will
>> leave it running for a while and uploading spots to the database
>>
>> Tim M0AFJ
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Hi Mal
My CW's not to bad thanks!, I'm doing other things so I'm just leaving 
the Rx on in the shack, will try a cross band with you over the weekend, 
Its not much of a set up, FT2000, 80M Windom, untuned though I've got 
the stuff to cobble up a tuner, its a very noisy urban location though.
I've got my IC R71E and Wellbrook loop monitoring 502.6 but I don't tend 
to hear much on that

Tim M0AFJ / G8GGP


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Good folks,

I've now got a most basic WSPR TX system on-air transverting my FT817 TX
from 28MHz down to 500kHz. It is only putting out 700mW from the TX, so only
microwatts being radiated from the poor antenna at the moment. Although I
cannot yet transceive on 500kHz, when I get back from holiday in a few weeks
I will set to work getting more power, full transceive and a moderately
credible antenna.

However, nothing ventured nothing gained, *I will put this WSPR TX on the
air this evening* starting shortly in case *anyone* can hear me.  Any WSPR
spot reports would fill me with total amazement and delight.

73s
Roger
G3XBM

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Good folks,<br><br>I&#39;ve now got a most basic WSPR TX system on-air tra=
nsverting my FT817 TX from 28MHz down to 500kHz. It is only putting out 70=
0mW from the TX, so only microwatts being radiated from the poor antenna=
 at the moment. Although I cannot yet transceive on 500kHz, when I get bac=
k from holiday in a few weeks I will set to work getting more power, full=
 transceive and a moderately credible antenna.<br>
<br>However, nothing ventured nothing gained, <u>I will put this WSPR TX=
 on the air this evening</u> starting shortly in case <i>anyone</i> can he=
ar me.=A0 Any WSPR spot reports would fill me with total amazement and del=
ight.<br>
<br>73s<br>Roger<br>G3XBM<br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>--------------------=
-----------------------------------------<br><a href=3D"http://g3xbm-qrp.b=
logspot.com/">http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.=
g3xbm.co.uk">http://www.g3xbm.co.uk</a><br>
G3XBM =A0 =A0GQRP 1678 =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL G11088<br>

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Hello Victor,

thank's report !

73 de Gus
  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 8:31 PM
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  Hello Gus ,

  your ssb signal is about 55 at the moment,

  73

  Victor
    -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
    Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_grou=
p@blacksheep.org]Namens Gus
    Verzonden: donderdag 24 september 2009 20:19
    Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
    Onderwerp: LF: SSB Beacon


    Dear LF,

    this evening i test an SSB Beacon, QRG 508 kHz LSB.
    Reports are welcome.

    73 de Gus SM6BHZ
    www.sm6bhz.com

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<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4></FONT></EM></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4>thank's report !</FONT></EM></STRONG><=
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<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4></FONT></EM></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4>73 de Gus</FONT></EM></STRONG></DIV>
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  <A title=3Dvictor13@online.nl     href=3D"mailto:victor13@online.nl"=
>victor13@online.nl</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@=
blacksheep.org     href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_l=
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  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, September 24,=
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  PM</DIV>
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  <DIV><SPAN class=3D141343018-24092009><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2=
     face=3DArial>Hello Gus ,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D141343018-24092009><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2=
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  <DIV><SPAN class=3D141343018-24092009><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2=
 face=3DArial>your=20
  ssb&nbsp;signal is about 55 at the moment,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D141343018-24092009><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2=
     face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D141343018-24092009><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2=
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  <DIV><SPAN class=3D141343018-24092009><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2=
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  <DIV><SPAN class=3D141343018-24092009><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2=
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  <BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px" dir=3Dltr>
    <DIV dir=3Dltr class=3DOutlookMessageHeader align=3Dleft><FONT siz=
e=3D2       face=3DTahoma>-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----<BR><B>Van:<=
/B> <A       href=3D"mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">owner-=
rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
    [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]<B>Namens=20
    </B>Gus<BR><B>Verzonden:</B> donderdag 24 september 2009=20
    20:19<BR><B>Aan:</B> <A       href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksh=
eep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A><BR><B>Onderwerp:</B>=20
    LF: SSB Beacon<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4>Dear LF,</FONT></EM></STRONG></DIV=
>
    <DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4></FONT></EM></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4>this evening i test an SSB Beacon,=
 QRG 508 kHz=20
    LSB.</FONT></EM></STRONG></DIV>
    <DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4>Reports are=20
welcome.</FONT></EM></STRONG></DIV>
    <DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4></FONT></EM></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4>73 de Gus SM6BHZ</FONT></EM></STRO=
NG></DIV>
    <DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4><A       href=3D"http://www.sm6bhz=
.com">www.sm6bhz.com</A></FONT></EM></STRONG></DIV>
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Hello Willem and LF,
thank's report and info!
73 de Gus SM6BHZ
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> 1634 -28  4.9   0.503910 -2 G7NKS IO92 10
> 1646 -30  5.8   0.503914  0 G7NKS IO92 23
> 1834  -2  5.1   0.503920  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 1838  -7  5.3   0.503920  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 1846   7  5.4   0.503921  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 73s willem pa3ego
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Hi Andy, LF.
Started my grabber on 502.4 dial, WSPR prog and two window into grabber 
up to morning here.

Roman


* Andy Talbot <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com> [Fri, 11 Sep 2009 20:50:28 
+0100]:
> The G4JNT  Beacon on 503.700kHz is back on.   Every 15 minutes at the
> t+4
> minute epoch.
>
> I'll have to think how to include a WSPR waveform as well as the
> original
> signal type.   It will almost certainly  be too much for a single 
16F628
> PIC
> to be able to include both.   Can probably do it if I remove the PSK31
> component, but there have been several reports / decodes of that, so 
it
> ought to remain.
>
> Easiest solution may be to use two PIC / DDS drivers, one handiing 
each
> signal type and work out an arbitration scheme for when they both want
> to Tx
> at the same time.
>
>
> Andy
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Dave Sergeant wrote:

> 
> What actual frequency are you transmitting on Roger? As you might have 
> gathered I do have a bit of a problem calibrating WSPR and decoding.... 
> I am running it now, and Argo, and seeing a moderately strong WSPR 
> signal but no decodes. It may of course be Gus or somebody else. It 
> last transmitted in the 1744 slot and before that at 1736.

Dave, LF

This must be G7NKS, as he's being spotted by several stations, and at 
the times you mention.

I guess you know that http://wsprnet.org/drupal/wsprnet/spots shows the 
uploaded spots as they come in from any stations that have "Upload 
Spots" ticked on WSPR?

For anyone who isn't aware of this - click the link "Specify Query 
Parameters" and select "LF/VLF" from the drop down list of bands & then 
"Update"...

No sign here of any signals yet though.

John
GM4SLV



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Dear Marcin,

will there be 136 kHz activities Saturday morning/noon?=20
Only during office hours access to "my" antenna, sri.
Could try to be qrv around 1100 to 1300 lt but only good old hand made str=
aight code.
Hw?

73 good luck
Joerg, DL3NRV




> -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: "Marcin" <bxi@go2.pl>
> Gesendet: 16.09.09 11:51:48
> An: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Betreff: LF: Special event HF70W


> Dear LF
> Special event HF70W will be activity in night saturday/sunday 19/20
> September and 4/5 October.
> This friday (18 September) worked on 137,700kHz, QRSS3  from 20:00 UTC.
> --
> Vy 73!
> Marcin SQ2BXI
> HF70W - SP2KDS Team
>=20
>=20



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Hi Roman, LF,



from my experience, I=C2=A0don't think=C2=A0that=C2=A0either SpecLab or Ar=
go=C2=A0would generally be=C2=A0more sensitive than the other.=C2=A0If you=
 use similar settings (eg. FFT=C2=A0resolution 0.34 Hz), then there is lit=
tle=C2=A0difference in the appearance of the spectrograms. On the other ha=
nd, compared to Argo's predefined optimized settings, SpecLab has a lot of=
 flexibility, allowing=C2=A0for example to trade in sensitivity for screen=
 bandwidth.



Kind regards,

MArkus (DF6NM)

-----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung-----=20
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An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Verschickt: Mi., 30. Sept. 2009, 0:41
Thema: LF: G3LDO


Hi Peter, LF!=C2=A0
=C2=A0
Looking to your freq too!=C2=A0
qrss.nm.ru -> grabber 3 window 500-501.7=C2=A03rd window. But SPL... Is no=
t so sensitive then ARGO.=C2=A0
But I hope to see you.=C2=A0
=C2=A0
--=C2=A0
Roman RW3ADB.=C2=A0
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<div>Hi Roman, LF,</div>


<div>&nbsp;</div>


<div>from my experience, I&nbsp;don't think&nbsp;that&nbsp;either SpecLab=
 or Argo&nbsp;would generally be&nbsp;more sensitive than the other.&nbsp;=
If you use similar settings (eg. FFT&nbsp;resolution 0.34 Hz), then there=
 is little&nbsp;difference in the appearance of the spectrograms. On the=
 other hand, compared to Argo's predefined optimized settings, SpecLab has=
 a lot of flexibility, allowing&nbsp;for example to trade in sensitivity=
 for screen bandwidth.</div>


<div>&nbsp;</div>


<div>Kind regards,</div>


<div>MArkus (DF6NM)<br>
<br>
-----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung----- <br>
Von: Roman RW3ADB &lt;rw3adb@rambler.ru&gt;<br>
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<br>
Verschickt: Mi., 30. Sept. 2009, 0:41<br>
Thema: LF: G3LDO<br>
</div>


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&nbsp;<br>
Looking to your freq too!&nbsp;<br>
qrss.nm.ru -&gt; grabber 3 window 500-501.7&nbsp;3rd window. But SPL... Is=
 not so sensitive then ARGO.&nbsp;<br>
But I hope to see you.&nbsp;<br>
&nbsp;<br>
--&nbsp;<br>
Roman RW3ADB.&nbsp;<br>
&nbsp;<br>
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Hi Jim, LF!
Started grabber ON 137.0 too: http://qrss.nm.ru/grabber.html
Started WSPR up to morning time.

Roman

* James Moritz <james.moritz@btopenworld.com> [Sun, 20 Sep 2009 14:17:19 
+0100]:
> Dear LF Group,
>
> The M0BMU WSPR beacon is now running on 135.5kHz "dial frequency",
> 137.0kHz
> RF out. Note change of frequency to try to avoid DCF39/HGA22 
sidebands,
> which some stations experience problems with. Any reports over the 
next
> few
> hours would be very welcome.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
>




--
Roman RW3ADB.


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G7NKS on WSPR now. Dial freq 502.4

IO92UB

With best regards
 
 
Jim
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of John RABSON
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Subject: LF: Identifying WSPR

LF,

I have been having e-mail problems and may miss some recent discussions.
Someone asked me how I could identify a WSPR signal without a decoder:

The times and frequencies of transmission were known.  I saw nothing else
remotely similar on the band.

The bandwidth was about 6Hz with Argo set to 10s dots.

Posting reports on the reflector elicited confirmation that I was receiving
WSPR.

John F5VLF
PS sorry for terseness.  I haven't been sleeping well and currently feel
several turns short of a microhenry







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Gus,

I didn't copy anything after 0045Z. I will try again tonight from my home QTH.

John, W1TAG

---- Gus <begu@algonet.se> wrote: 
> Hello John and LF,
> 
> thank's report and info !
> Transmitter stoped after an upgrade last night.
> I will let transmitter run from now and all night in WSPR !
> Dial 502.5 kHz USB.
> 
> 73 de Gus SM6BHZ
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <w1tag@charter.net>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 2:45 AM
> Subject: Re: LF: Wspr spots
> 
> 
> >I have some copy of SM6BHZ in the past half hour:
> > 0016 -29  0.9   0.503951   0  SM6BHZ JO57 30
> > 0026 -28  1.0   0.503951   0  SM6BHZ JO57 30
> > 0034 -27  1.0   0.503951   0  SM6BHZ JO57 30
> > 0040 -26  1.2   0.503951   0  SM6BHZ JO57 30
> > 
> > Will let it run overnight and see if any other calls show up.
> > 
> > John Andrews, W1TAG/1
> > Raymond, Maine FN42ch
> >
> 
> 
> 



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hi henny and LF group
Many thanks Henny for the pics control very good week=20
with the beautifull sun..
best 73 's=20
Claude F8BOJ JN16WA
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: henny van elst=20
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  Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 11:15 AM
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  Hi,LF,
  Capture BOJ,
  Best 73s
  Henny pa3cpm
  Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden=
 verzonden:
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>hi henny and LF group</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Many thanks Henny for the pics contro=
l very good=20
week </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>with the beautifull sun..</FONT></DIV=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>best 73 's </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Claude F8BOJ JN16WA</FONT></DIV>
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Roman
I can copy lots of Russian stns on 7033 but now a contest again and some bad 
signals and chirp on freq
mal/g3kev

----- Original Message ----- 
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>
>
>> Excellent propagartion world wide on 7Mcs tonite but so far nothing
> exciting on LF/MF
>
> Not so excellent, Mal. You are do not copy me on 40 now. -)
>
>> Mal/g3kev
>
>
>
> --
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Thank you Victor for the excellent capture!
-- 
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
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On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 3:01 AM,  <victor13@online.nl> wrote:
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>
>
> 73
>
> PA3FNY
> Victor


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Hello Waren, LF!
There were fantastic condition last night! Both, XGJ and WPF were received=
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s signal was 15dB over noise! SUPER!

73!

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS =20

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Hello Waren, LF!<br>There were fantastic condition last night! Both, XGJ=
 and WPF were received at the same time. WPF is usually FB, but it was int=
eresting, that&nbsp; XGJ=B4s signal was 15dB over noise! SUPER!<br><br>73!=
<br><br>Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS&nbsp; <br><br /><hr />Bu=EFte v kontaktu se=
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Sorry for the short notice, I sent this using the wrong email account...

WE2XGR/3 will again be running WOLF(10) on 508.700 kHz tonight from
2300Z until 0500Z. Reports are welcome.

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Thanks for the comments John and others.

Firstly of course Jim is VERY strong here, well over s9. I did try 
putting 30dB of attenuation in but he was still moving the meter...

I have not at the moment done the calibration. Both that and the small 
drift you see are complicated by my receive setup I use on 500kHz:

Datong UC1 upconverter feeding my K2 on 10m.

The Datong itself has a 116MHz downconverter crystal (144MHz to 10m) 
which is known to driift and hard to set precisely.

The K2, as most of you will know, is not a fully synthsised rig rather 
an analogue VFO locked to a coarser synthesiser in 10kHz steps. It is 
adequately stable for normal use but has a worse case 30Hz absolute 
error and a pretty small thermal drift (it doesn't have the frequency 
stability mod they did in later K2s).

Because of the difficulty of setting frequencies precisely things like 
'tune to 197kHz for a 1kHz tone' are meaningless - as I have to use the 
soundcard to check it is 1kHz..... you cannot calibrate that way, and 
neither can I do it on Loran since I have no AM mode.

So realistically this setup is not up to coping with these more exotic 
sound card modes which seem to assume you are using fully synthesised 
rigs. But it is just fine on other modes like RTTY and PSK - Wolf 
should be no different, it just sounds like slowish RTTY to me...

Back to normal modes I think...

73 Dave G3YMC

On 10 Sep 2009 at 17:45, John Andrews wrote:

> Dave,
> 
> On a quick look, I see some substantial frequency drift, probably due to
> the receiver, and also the possibility that your actual sound card
> sampling rate is quite different from the default 8000 Hz. Both of these
> things will keep the copy from building up, as the framing keeps
> changing.
> 
> Are you used to seeing frequency drift on QRSS signals? Do you suspect
> that the receiver isn't stable?
> 
> John, W1TAG
> 
> >> Well, easy for some (I can see) but NOT for me. What am I doing
> >> wrong?
> >>
> >> 19:19:11 >WOLF RESTARTED
> >> t:  24 f: 0.367 a:-0.5 dp: 85.8 ci: 1 cj:  0 1STCG6J2X7EUEWZ ?
> >> t:  48 f: 0.366 a:-0.4 dp: 85.7 ci: 2 cj:  0 VP*JV9IX47R60ZC ?
> > 
> > You are not alone Roger....
> > 
> > 2009-09-10 20:05:04 >WOLF10  -r 8000 -f 700 -t 10 -d 8 -w 0.0000
> > t:  24 f:-3.282 a: 0.2 dp:131.5 ci: 1 cj:202 Y 6NQSDZ42XVQHU ?
> > t:  48 f:-3.282 a: 0.2 dp:128.8 ci: 7 cj:252 XHW/EU864G09IUO ?
> > t:  96 f:-3.429 a: 0.1 dp:126.6 ci: 6 cj:472 SCE6XF5ZOGYP0IY -
> > t: 192 f:-3.477 pm: 8690 jm:456 q: -6.9 -8.0 HIQ*QAUZFJGT8XB ?
> > t: 288 f:-3.770 pm:11554 jm:455 q: -8.3 -7.8 K2WH67SKZF20??? ?
> > t: 384 f:-3.477 pm:11696 jm:455 q: -4.8 -4.9 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
> > t: 480 f:-3.477 pm:13507 jm:455 q: -4.8 -5.7 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
> > t: 576 f:-2.891 pm:20843 jm:453 q: -3.7 -8.0 0XB7VQ6W169B0J9 ?
> > t: 672 f:-2.891 pm:20855 jm:453 q: -3.5 -7.9 0XB7VQ6W169B0J9 ?
> > t: 768 f:-2.891 pm:20862 jm:453 q: -3.4-10.2 DGC1ALF5ZELF5HS ?
> > 
> > At least there are a couple of valid decodes there, but my quality
> > fields are way way below those of John's.
> > 
> > Like WSPR another of these toys which I will probably never look at
> > again...


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Tu John, 200watt,ant.sloper 12meter and tophat14meter best 73s
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Hello group!

Just received a CQ from DJ9GT on 137700 with 15-20db over noise in
JN88HL.

I couldn't find a personal mail-address, so hopefully he's member of the
list.

I'm a LF-beginner and this is actually the first signal that I received
with my Marconi-antenna. 90m of wire about 12m high and a 2,2mH loading
coil.

RX is Kenwood TS440S with preamp.

I have got a lot of support and tips from Ossi, OE5ODL (Thank you) and I
hope to have a TX ready in early December. 

Cheers

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Hello LFers,

What are most of you fellows setting your Nr of frames value at
in the Wolf Config screen?  How important is this setting as to
its effect on decodes?  Thanks in advance for any/all replies.

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I have just been doing some more tests on 30m. Clock errors might well 
have been part of the problem. Initially on 30m the few decodes I was 
seeing were showing a DT of over 3s, so I had a play with the dsec 
setting, and setting that to -3.5 brought me rather more spots with DTs 
around 0. I noticed at that time that my computer clock was indeed 
around 3secs out relative to MSF, but that doesn't tie in with when I 
was listening to Jim earlier when it was no further than 0.5s 
different, even after an internet resynch. Surely my PC clock didn't 
drift 3s in a couple of hours....

As to strong signals failing to decode, thanks for the information. I 
am using the built in sound chip on the motherboard, and as you know 
these are always a bit ropey, so it may be the reason. I have another 
problem at the moment, in that I have just fitted a fixed level audio 
output connection to the K2 and I think I have got its level a bit high 
- I have to set the input level in WSPR to virtually zero to get around 
0dB input. I shall be turning it down a bit next time I have to go 
inside the K2.

It does look as if some aspects of WSPR are a bit finnicky though, not 
too impressed myself but if it means you are spotted in AA1A land it is 
obviously serving a good purpose. But for working Hatfield from 
Bracknell I guess there are quicker ways...

73 Dave G3YMC

On 5 Sep 2009 at 12:17, James Moritz wrote:

> Dear Daves, LF Group,
> 
> Thanks for the overnight reports - the beacon was shut down at 0925utc
> here. I see several spots in the database from AA1A - the first time
> M0BMU has been copied in the US this season, thanks Dave.
> 
> In answer to YMC Dave's questions:
> 1) I don't know of an actual figure for required frequency stability,
> but more than several Hz drift during a 2 minute period would be a
> problem. But a drift of 1Hz in 2min is small enough. Some of the HF
> people have problems with rigs heating and cooling between transmit and
> receive cycles and the resulting cyclic drift. Using a converter and
> receiver with seperate oscillators will certainly tend to multiply drift
> problems.
> 
> 2) I have not so far had much success with internet based clock 
> synchronisation utilities, so at the moment I am just setting my PC
> clock against an MSF clock at the start of each session - this is
> adequate, but my PC does drift a few seconds overnight. Having said
> that, I was being received OK by a number of other stations this
> morning. The transmission is supposed to start on each even minute, and
> have a duration of 110.6 seconds.
> 
> 3) WSPR seems to have good dynamic range, provided the RX and sound card
> gains are adjusted so that overload does not occur. Certainly, it is
> possible to receive rather weak signals giving just a faint trace in the
> noise on the waterfall display at the same time as strong "red" traces
> occur - a range of 40dB or more. Even if a strong signal does cause
> overload, the randomised transmit periods mean that only a fraction of
> the weak signal time slots will be affected. I have not noticed any
> problem with decoding strong WSPR signals here, although there are not
> really any "very" strong signals.
> 
> The "false decodes" occur from time to time, apparently more when 
> narrow-band QRM is present. If you read W1JT's description of the
> various JT modes, he has made a trade-off between excluding decoded weak
> signals that contain a lot of noise but could be correct, and falsely
> decoding noise that by chance resembles a signal. In practice, they are
> not really an issue, due to the fact that the callsign is encoded with
> other information (for WSPR the locator and power output) and these
> would have to be consistent with the callsign for the signal to be
> accepted as valid. Even if the falsely decoded callsign is plausible, it
> is extremely unlikely that the locator would be correct, and
> astronomically unlikely that the same decode would be generated from
> noise at multiple receiving stations on multiple occasions. Using these
> types of criteria, false decodes are periodically stripped out of the
> WSPR database.
> 
> A number of people have had problems with strong signals failing to
> decode, on HF as well as 500kHz. We did some investigation of this last
> winter; there may be more than one cause, but one issue is that some
> sound cards/operating systems appear to generate significant timing
> errors, which over the relatively long transmission period of WSPR
> accumulate to mess things up. This results in some receivers failing to
> decode some transmitters. One way to test this is to receive a strong
> WSPR signal, but then after about 40s or a minute from the start of a
> transmission disconnect the audio to the PC or turn the gain down to
> zero. There is enough data in the shortened signal to decode, but less
> time for timing errors to accumulate. If this results in successful
> decoding, then a timing error of this sort seems likely, which could be
> at either TX or RX. Weak signals may decode fine, because parts of the
> signal are "missing" due to noise and fading. So another possible test
> is to reduce gain until the strong signal is just a weak trace on the
> waterfall in the receiver noise, and see if correct decoding occurs
> then.
> 
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
> 
> 


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Hi Roger

 

I'll be looking out for you with the dawn chorus!!  Have a good holiday and
we'll see you with a tan and QRO when you get back.  Going anywhere exotic?

 

With best regards

 

 

Jim

 

 

Dr. James Cowburn G7NKS

 

  _____  

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Roger Lapthorn
Sent: 18 September 2009 23:01
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: 500kHz QRPp WSPR overnight

 

Tonight is probably my last chance to receive any new WSPR reports before I
go on holiday, so I'll leave the beacon running until around 8am UK time
tomorrow on 33% TX. If there are any night owls around, I'd appreciate a few
receivers staying on 500kHz just in case you might hear me.

73s
Roger G3XBM

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
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dawn chorus!! &nbsp;Have a good holiday and we&#8217;ll see you with=
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when you get back. &nbsp;Going anywhere exotic?<o:p></o:p></span></fon=
t></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'fo=
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t></b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;fon=
t-family:Tahoma'> owner-<st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blac=
ksheep.org</st1:PersonName> [mailto:owner-<st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">=
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weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Roger Lapthorn<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 18 September 2009=
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<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:s=
t=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> LF: 500kHz QRP=
p WSPR
overnight</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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tomorrow on 33% TX. If there are any night owls around, I'd appreciate=
 a few
receivers staying on 500kHz just in case you might hear me.<br>
<br>
73s<br>
Roger G3XBM<br clear=3Dall>
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<a href=3D"http://www.g3xbm.co.uk">http://www.g3xbm.co.uk</a><br>
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Hi Jim. whist it involves a change in "usage" from our end it would not seem
unreasonable to ensure that the US stations have a chance of hearing us
without nearby swamping. I think this is an interesting development becasuse
it now seems that Frtiz is extending the experiment to intercontinental
tests/qsos.......an activity he discouraged earlier....due to the terms of
the original application and grant I believe. I have to admit my opinions
carry very little weight as a "non-active operator" :-)) But maybe it will
stimulate others with differing opinions to voice them to you.

Best wishes
Alan G3NYK

----- Original Message -----
From: "James Moritz" <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>
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> Dear LF Group,
>
> I still haven't replied to Fritz Raab, W1FR, regarding the WD2XSH US band
> plan which he is apparently coordinating - you may remember I posted the
US
> proposals, which he sent me, a couple of weeks ago, but have not received
> any comments from other UK/Eu stations. I think I should reply with
> something, so now is your chance... The proposal relates to the US
> allocation extending to 495 - 515kHz, and how that would fit in with
current
> UK and Eu beacon operations. The content of the e-mail is below. The issue
> is that they would like to make a 501.0 - 501.2kHz WSPR sub-band, to fit
in
> with the various other proposals. Various other types of beacon modes are
> allocated frequencies outside the UK/EI/ON 501 - 504kHz range, while
501.2 -
> 504kHz is allocated to "general comms". Retaining frequencies just below
> 504kHz would divide their "general comms" band in two
>
> I don't think there is anything preventing us from doing this, it is just
> the inconvenience of turning the current band "upside-down". Let me know
> what you think!
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
> >>>From W1FR:
>
> Greetings:
>
>      Thanks for the comments on the band plan, passed
> along to me by W1XP.
>
>      About a month ago, a modification to the WD2XSH
> license was approved that adds stations and gives us
> access to 495 - 510 kHz.  Perhaps half of the 42 stations
> will eventually get on the air.  Because of NDBs, some
> stations are limited to parts of this band and we will
> have two calling frequencies and two beacon bands.
>
>      A draft of our new band plan follows.  Of particular
> interest is WSPR.  As I see it, our options are:
>
> (a)  501.0-501.2:  Conveniently on one side of our comms
>      band.  Will not overload WSPR receivers near 504 kHz.
>      Apparently in EU CW-beacon band.
>
> (b)  503.8-504.0:  Apparently same as what you guys are
>      using.  Cuts our comms band in the middle.  Nearby
>      stations may overload US receivers trying to hear EUs.
>
> (c)  503.9-504.1:  Same problems as above with cutting
>      comms band in two and overloading.  Conveniently
>      straddles both G/ON/EI and Canadian bands.
>
>      Any further thoughts you may have will be
> appreciated.
>
>
> 73, Fritz, W1FR
>
> Frederick H. (Fritz) Raab, Ph.D.
> GREEN MOUNTAIN RADIO RESEARCH COMPANY
> 77 Vermont Avenue, Fort Ethan Allen
> Colchester, Vermont 05446  USA
> Tel./Fax.:  +1 (802) 655-9670  Home:  +1 (802) 862-0997
> E-mail:  f.raab@ieee.org
>
> BASIC BAND PLAN for WD2XSH
>
> f, kHz          USE
>
> 495.0 - 495.1   QRSS, 1-Hz spacing, 40 stations
> 495.1 - 495.6   CW/PSK beacons midwest, 100-Hz spacing, 10 stations
> 495.6 - 499.0   Comms
> 497.5           Calling frequency
> 499.0 - 501.0   Reserved for heritage stations and special events
> 501.0 - 501.2   WSPR
> 501.2 - 505.0   Comms
> 505.0 - 505.2   DX window
> 505.2 - 508.5   Comms
> 507.5           Calling frequency
> 508.5 - 510.0   CW/PSK beacons east, south, west, Pacific, 50-Hz spacing,
30
> stations
> 510.0 - 511.0   WE2XGR beacons
> 511.0 - 515.0   WE2XGR SSB and wideband modes
>
>
> OTHER IN-BAND SIGNALS
>
> 503.976         NEED LSB
> 505.0           NEED carrier
> 506.024         NEED USB
>
> 508.976         OF/FA LSB
> 510.0           OF/FA carrier
> 511.024         OF/FA USB
>
>



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Piotr,

for Belgium:

Frequency: 501-504kHz
Power: max. 5W EIRP
Modes: telegraphy as per ITU definition, meaning it includes digital =20
text modes such as the various PSK and FSK modes, with a max. bandwith =20
of 100Hz
Permit:  no special permit required, just a "full license" (HAREC Class 1)
Additional: no expire date, amateurs are secundary users

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

Quoting Piotr M=C5=82ynarski <sq7mpj@toya.net.pl>:

> Dear LF group,
> The present discussion  about  uk/us 500 kHz bandplan  has triggered  a
> question which i  was going to  put here, on this reflector ,
> for some time.  In Poland, we still lack this MF band allocation to
> radioamateurs.  There is a small group of hams interested  in  having an
> access to this band..
> Some time ago i was asked  by one of our  PZK ( Polish Radioamateur
> Union)  officials to prepare a  sort of a  preliminary note about this
> issue
> I plan to write such a  note ( along with Marcin, sq2bxi and others)
> Athough this lf_reflector is uk based we all know that it has a
> world-wide character including stations from G,W,F,DL,S,OK,ON,EI,PA,I
> ,OE,HB,VE
> ( i am sorry if  any other country prefix has been ommited) . Therefore
> , my ask is the following:
> please , write  here  , on this reflector,   the 500 khz band
> allocation in particular countries  i.e.  band limits as well as   EIRP
> power,special permits. etc...
> Obviously,  with such an information provided  the   "power" of  such a
> note will be greatly increased.
>
>
> 73 de Piotr, sq7mpj
> qth: Lodz /jo91rs/
>
>



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On 13 Sep 2009 at 9:24, Dave Sergeant wrote:

> I had a quick play with WSJT7. But it looks as if WSPR was an add on to
> the original program, its implementation is a bit basic and the GUI
> totally different from the separate WSPR program.

OK, I seem to have got WSJT sussed, and it is working. It seems to auto 
calibrate for the sound card, I have done nothing and the two numbers 
in the bottom right hand are both close to 1...

192803  14  -7  0.0    17  0  G4WGT IO83 27         
193000  16  12  3.0   -53  0  M0BMU IO91 33         
193000   8 -23  2.9    38  1  G7NKS IO92 23         
193400  15  15  2.8   -53  0  M0BMU IO91 33         
193600  10  -9  2.9    17  0  G4WGT IO83 27         
194400  11  -7  2.9    17  0  G4WGT IO83 27         
194800  16   5  3.0    32  0  SM6BHZ JO57 40        
194800  10 -11  3.1    47  0  G7NKS IO92 23         
195000  15  16  2.9   -53  0  M0BMU IO91 33         
195000   1 -24  3.1    17  0                        
195400  14  15  2.9   -53  0  M0BMU IO91 33         
195600   7  -6  3.1    17  0  G4WGT IO83 27         
195600   9  -7  3.5    50  0  G7NKS IO92 23         
195800  10   2  2.9    33  0  SM6BHZ JO57 40        

Not 100% copy but MUCH better than WSPR which has seen none of this. 
And sorry Roger, no sign of you on the waterfall.

73 Dave G3YMC

http://www.davesergeant.com



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hi Lobos  lLF group...
very well thanks you for your pics control.
always welcome here=20
the pleasure of a next qso.
best 73 s=20
Claude F8boj   JN16WA

  From: Lubos OK2BVG=20
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  Hello Claude, LF!

  Your signal was big last night - see the picture.

  Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS


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Dear Roger, LF Group,

It is interesting to make an estimate of what G3XBM's ERP might be...

The noise level at M0BMU during relatively quiet daytime conditions I 
estimate to be of the order of 3uV/m in the 2.5kHz WSPR reference bandwidth. 
The reported SNR gets up to about -25dB, making the signal level from G3XBM 
about 0.18uV/m.

ERP = (Ed)^2 / 49; with E = 0.18 x 10e-6, d = 69000m , ERP is about 3uW with 
only "geometric spreading" propagation losses. But there is some additional 
reduction in field strength due to ground wave propagation losses, perhaps 
3dB with "good" ground, so the ERP would then become about 6uW. Diffraction 
losses due to the curvature of the earth are negligible at this distance.

Obviously, this could be +/- several dB due to various uncertainties, but 
should be of the right order of magnitude. Plenty of potential for 
improvement then!

Cheers, Jim Moritz
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Dear Dave,

AC 97 
(http://download.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/sb/ac97_r23.pdf ) 
specifies 48kHz as the basic, obligatory sample rate for compliant sound 
cards, so yours should certainly be able to do it - to find more info, you 
could try looking for the audio codec chip on the motherboard - usually a 
very tiny square 48pin thing near the audio connectors, and searching using 
its type number. But I guess what sample rate is actually used will depend 
on software, drivers and so forth - perhaps someone with experience of PC 
sound card programming could advise. Looking at the audio settings in the 
Windows control panel may well tell you what sample rates are possible. 
Also, some software allows you to select different sample rates, for 
instance Spectrum Lab, but not Argo as far as I know.

The errors you are getting in the measured frequency seem to be enormous - 2 
or 3%, which would certainly give rise to problems.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
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 It seems that both WOLF and WSPR are
> designed for current sound cards which have 48,000 and 96,000 clock
> rates. Mine is obviously from the old stable so has 44,100 etc rates.
>
> For information it is the sound card interface built into the
> motherboard, an ASR Rock K7S41GX dating from 2003 with generic AC'97
> sound. Zilch more given about its spec in the manual.
>



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Argo set to 10s dots.

At 0606z.

F5VLF





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Dear Jim, LF Group,


> Me too.  I am getting 3 traces (!) from Jim M (he is 9+10 and audible!) 
> and
> a biggish one from Gus too

I am seeing low-level (about -25dB) sidebands on your signal  at +/-50Hz and 
+/-150Hz, which are giving rise to the extra spots.  I think something 
similar is happening when you receive my signal. I am not getting similar 
multiple spots from other nearby stations, nor am I seeing the same 
sidebands on other strong signals, so I think they must originate in your 
station somewhere - possibly audio being affected by mains noise, or some 
sort of residual FM of an oscillator in your rig?

Cheers, Jim Moritz
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Hello all:

I monitored the transmission of John, WD2XES in WSPR mode on 9/20 to 9/21 -2009 ending at 05:00 UTC. I copied him for about 2-1/2 hours during which time I experimented with different settings on my receiver, as well as my DSP audio filters to see what interaction it would have on WSPR decodes. John was transmitting on 137.577 KHz, and this was my first attempt using WSPR on 2200 meters. Receive conditions were deplorable. The lightening
crashes with a 500 cycle filter were peaking at 40dB over S-9. I didn't have enough time to make many observations; however here are some things that I did find out about WSPR.
WSPR references its decodes against the noise level in a given audio passband. The more noise, lower S/N ratios of course. On my setup; WSPR could not decode when static crashes were above peaks of 10dB over S-9. 
I found this out by using my noise blanker. Without the NB on, static peaks were 40 over, and WSPR would not decode. My NB reduced the peaks
to S-9 to 10 over, and WSPR would then decode. It made no difference what audio BW I was using, without the NB, the Static simply masked the signal. The noise level using the 2.4 KHz SSB filter was out of the question. So, the narrower you can get your IF - BW,the better WSPR will do at decoding. My comment about the dB reading. With no audio filtering, the XES signal decoded around -26 to -29 dB. With audio BW as low as 20 Hz;
it would show +8 to +10 dB. This is not an exaggerated reading. When you narrow your audio BW, you lower the passband noise level. And the DSP filter also " Boosts " the desired signal level in amplitude. So, lower passband noise, coupled together with a higher signal level amplitude will naturally increase WSPR's dB reading. And just to make this remark, adjustment of the volume control does not have any effect on WSPR at all. That is unless you turn it all the way down. About narrow audio filtering and WSPR, I'll say this; try it and see what happens. I did find this out; audio filtering less than 20 Hz produced too much " filter ringing " and WSPR hears this as an un-intelligible signal, and the ringing will mask out the desired signal, and No Decode. My little one night, 2-1/2 hour
experiment showed this:  In the extreme receive conditions on 2200 meters, WSPR decoded OK at an IF - BW of 500 Hz. Decodes were better, and easier for WSPR when I used an audio BW of 220 Hz. And decodes came thru fine with the 20 Hz audio BW, centered on the desired signal. IF filtering, and IF shift will provide the best results from interfering signals within the passband. Notch filter would be beneficial if the interfering signal is far
enough away that the notch dosen't affect the signal you are trying to receive. The audio filtering is most effective at reducing the noise that WSPR has to deal with, and WSPR dosen't like extreme static.
I am fairly new to WSPR, and this is probably some elementary information, But I do hope that to any newcomers to WSPR, it might be of some value.

Thanks for your time in reading this, and ;  73 to all :::


Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz ( QRSS-60 )
Coordinates:  N:  35* 43' 54" - W:  84* 3' 16"
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Hello Anatolij, LF!
I saw your signal good last night.
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2032 -23  1.7   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 33
2040 -21  1.7   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 33
2044 -20  2.0   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 33
2054 -15  1.9   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 33
2058 -16  2.0   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 33
2106 -18  1.8   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 33
2114 -28  1.7   0.503840  0 M0BMU IO91 33
2114 -22  2.1   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 33
2118 -26  2.1   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 33
2120 -27  1.4   0.503840  0 M0BMU IO91 33
2124 -24  1.8   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 33
2128 -31  1.7   0.503840  0 M0BMU IO91 33
2136 -26  2.1   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 33
2144 -23  1.9   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 33
2152 -21  1.9   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 33
2158 -28  1.6   0.503840  0 M0BMU IO91 33
2200 -16  2.1   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 33
2204 -31  1.5   0.503840  0 M0BMU IO91 33
2208 -21  2.1   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 33
2212 -29  1.5   0.503840  0 M0BMU IO91 33
2212 -24  1.8   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 33
2218 -25  1.8   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 33
2222 -20  2.0   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 33
2226 -18  2.0   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 33
2234 -15  2.2   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 33
2238 -17  1.8   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 33
2246 -22  2.2   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 33

Grabber is on around 503.85 up to sunrise here.

Roman

> Dear LF
>   WSPR records for G0NBD G7NKS SM6BHZ M0BMU (a small selection).
>
>   Again, no sign of Roger so far, but I'll leave it running over 
night.
>   2122 -16 0.9 0.503959 0 G7NKS IO92 27
>   2124 -2 0.7 0.503926 0 SM6BHZ JO57 33
>   2128 14 0.2 0.503841 0 M0BMU IO91 33
>   2128 -19 0.3 0.503926 0 SM6BHZ JO57 33
>   2130 -18 0.6 0.503960 0 G7NKS IO92 27
>   2134 15 0.0 0.503841 0 M0BMU IO91 33
>   2136 -6 0.4 0.503926 0 SM6BHZ JO57 33
>   2142 14 0.0 0.503841 0 M0BMU IO91 33
>   2144 0 1.1 0.503888 0 G0NBD IO83 23
>   2144 -2 0.3 0.503926 0 SM6BHZ JO57 33
>
>
>   73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM


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Graham, Jim LF,
I agree with Graham that if the 500 kHz band remains at this small 3 kHz
allocation and as the number of operators is likely to continue to increase
then it would be wise to restrict the bandwidth of the WSPR section to 100
Hz. The problem with the upper frequency suggestion is that here in the UK &
Ireland there is sometimes severe interference from the 252 kHz broadcast
station harmonic on 504 kHz. It also seems that there are other countries
suffering a similar interference problem around that frequency from other
sources, recall Laurence's (KL1X) comments recently regarding his problem
with a strong harmonic or signal on 504 kHz.

So, if a bandwidth reduction for WSPR and a frequency change is to be made
then I favour a 100 Hz section at the bottom of the band.

The 500 kHz band is not restricted to the use by CW (morse code) only and
there must be compatibility with other modes, like it or not, users must
have a choice of operating modes within the terms of their licence (NoV).
Don't forget that this is a temporary allocation so the more operators on
the band (no matter what mode) the more likely that it will become a
permanent allocation.

Whilst on my soap box, I would also like to hear/see less of the disparaging
and belittling e-mails that appear on the LF Forum. Not all operators have
large areas of land available to construct large and full size antennas, or
unlimited financial resources to purchase the required hardware, or limited
time due to family and other commitments to improve their level of skills
within the hobby, yes it is a hobby.

Regards,

Gary - G4WGT.





2009/9/21 Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>

>
> Jim,
>
> I did post a email on this a short while ago, Gus , I thin was the only one
> to  respond and  subsequently lowered his operating  frequency to  fall
> inside the , set 502.4 usb dial  frequency in use in the  UK.
>
> As the  European allocation looks to  be  wider than the  Uk, are we
> expecting the  UK 3 Khz  allocation to  remain as is, if  and when the  band
> is formalised ?, in which case loosing 200 hz may not be the  most sensible
> option ...
>
> As by definition , if you  can transmit wspr  you  must be  able to  move
> transmit  frequency (noting Andy's new beacon) establishing an over lapping
> 100 hz section may be a reasonable  compromise ie move the  dial frequency
> to say  502.5  or  499.5 , leaving 100 hz in band for uk access
>
> Graham
>
> G0NBD.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "James Moritz" <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>
> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 2:14 PM
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Subject: LF: Re: US 500-kHz band plan
>
>
>> Dear LF Group,
>>
>> I still haven't replied to Fritz Raab, W1FR, regarding the WD2XSH US band
>> plan which he is apparently coordinating - you may remember I posted the
>> US
>> proposals, which he sent me, a couple of weeks ago, but have not received
>> any comments from other UK/Eu stations. I think I should reply with
>> something, so now is your chance... The proposal relates to the US
>> allocation extending to 495 - 515kHz, and how that would fit in with
>> current
>> UK and Eu beacon operations. The content of the e-mail is below. The issue
>> is that they would like to make a 501.0 - 501.2kHz WSPR sub-band, to fit
>> in
>> with the various other proposals. Various other types of beacon modes are
>> allocated frequencies outside the UK/EI/ON 501 - 504kHz range, while 501.2
>> -
>> 504kHz is allocated to "general comms". Retaining frequencies just below
>> 504kHz would divide their "general comms" band in two
>>
>> I don't think there is anything preventing us from doing this, it is just
>> the inconvenience of turning the current band "upside-down". Let me know
>> what you think!
>>
>> Cheers, Jim Moritz
>> 73 de M0BMU
>>
>>  From W1FR:
>>>>>
>>>>
>> Greetings:
>>
>>    Thanks for the comments on the band plan, passed
>> along to me by W1XP.
>>
>>    About a month ago, a modification to the WD2XSH
>> license was approved that adds stations and gives us
>> access to 495 - 510 kHz.  Perhaps half of the 42 stations
>> will eventually get on the air.  Because of NDBs, some
>> stations are limited to parts of this band and we will
>> have two calling frequencies and two beacon bands.
>>
>>    A draft of our new band plan follows.  Of particular
>> interest is WSPR.  As I see it, our options are:
>>
>> (a)  501.0-501.2:  Conveniently on one side of our comms
>>    band.  Will not overload WSPR receivers near 504 kHz.
>>    Apparently in EU CW-beacon band.
>>
>> (b)  503.8-504.0:  Apparently same as what you guys are
>>    using.  Cuts our comms band in the middle.  Nearby
>>    stations may overload US receivers trying to hear EUs.
>>
>> (c)  503.9-504.1:  Same problems as above with cutting
>>    comms band in two and overloading.  Conveniently
>>    straddles both G/ON/EI and Canadian bands.
>>
>>    Any further thoughts you may have will be
>> appreciated.
>>
>>
>> 73, Fritz, W1FR
>>
>> Frederick H. (Fritz) Raab, Ph.D.
>> GREEN MOUNTAIN RADIO RESEARCH COMPANY
>> 77 Vermont Avenue, Fort Ethan Allen
>> Colchester, Vermont 05446  USA
>> Tel./Fax.:  +1 (802) 655-9670  Home:  +1 (802) 862-0997
>> E-mail:  f.raab@ieee.org
>>
>> BASIC BAND PLAN for WD2XSH
>>
>> f, kHz          USE
>>
>> 495.0 - 495.1   QRSS, 1-Hz spacing, 40 stations
>> 495.1 - 495.6   CW/PSK beacons midwest, 100-Hz spacing, 10 stations
>> 495.6 - 499.0   Comms
>> 497.5           Calling frequency
>> 499.0 - 501.0   Reserved for heritage stations and special events
>> 501.0 - 501.2   WSPR
>> 501.2 - 505.0   Comms
>> 505.0 - 505.2   DX window
>> 505.2 - 508.5   Comms
>> 507.5           Calling frequency
>> 508.5 - 510.0   CW/PSK beacons east, south, west, Pacific, 50-Hz spacing,
>> 30
>> stations
>> 510.0 - 511.0   WE2XGR beacons
>> 511.0 - 515.0   WE2XGR SSB and wideband modes
>>
>>
>> OTHER IN-BAND SIGNALS
>>
>> 503.976         NEED LSB
>> 505.0           NEED carrier
>> 506.024         NEED USB
>>
>> 508.976         OF/FA LSB
>> 510.0           OF/FA carrier
>> 511.024         OF/FA USB
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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Graham, Jim LF,<div><br></div><div>I agree with Graham that if the 500 kHz=
 band remains at this small 3 kHz allocation and as the number of operator=
s is likely to continue to increase then it would be wise to restrict the=
 bandwidth of the WSPR section to 100 Hz. The problem with the upper frequ=
ency suggestion is that here in the UK &amp; Ireland there is sometimes se=
vere interference from the 252 kHz broadcast station harmonic on 504 kHz.=
 It also seems that there are other countries suffering a similar interfer=
ence problem around that frequency from other sources, recall Laurence&#39=
;s (KL1X) comments recently regarding his problem with a strong harmonic=
 or signal on 504 kHz.</div>
<div><br></div><div>So, if a bandwidth reduction for WSPR and a frequency=
 change is to be made then I favour a 100 Hz section at the bottom of the=
 band.</div><div><br></div><div>The 500 kHz band is not restricted to the=
 use by CW (morse code) only and there must be compatibility with other mo=
des, like it or not, users must have a choice of operating modes within th=
e terms of their licence (NoV). Don&#39;t forget that this is a temporary=
 allocation so the more operators on the band (no matter what mode) the mo=
re likely that it will become a permanent allocation.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Whilst on my soap box, I would also like to hear/see=
 less of the disparaging and belittling e-mails that appear on the LF Foru=
m. Not all operators have large areas of land available to construct large=
 and full size antennas, or unlimited financial resources to purchase the=
 required hardware, or limited time due to family and other commitments to=
 improve their level of skills within the hobby, yes it is a hobby.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div><br></div><div>Gary - G4WGT.</div><=
div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><br><div class=3D"gma=
il_quote">2009/9/21 Graham <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:g8fzk@g=
8fzk.fsnet.co.uk">g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk</a>&gt;</span><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1=
px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><br>
Jim,<br>
<br>
I did post a email on this a short while ago, Gus , I thin was the only on=
e to =A0respond and =A0subsequently lowered his operating =A0frequency to=
 =A0fall inside the , set 502.4 usb dial =A0frequency in use in the =A0UK.=
<br>
<br>
As the =A0European allocation looks to =A0be =A0wider than the =A0Uk, are=
 we expecting the =A0UK 3 Khz =A0allocation to =A0remain as is, if =A0and=
 when the =A0band is formalised ?, in which case loosing 200 hz may not be=
 the =A0most sensible option ...<br>

<br>
As by definition , if you =A0can transmit wspr =A0you =A0must be =A0able=
 to =A0move transmit =A0frequency (noting Andy&#39;s new beacon) establish=
ing an over lapping 100 hz section may be a reasonable =A0compromise ie mo=
ve the =A0dial frequency to say =A0502.5 =A0or =A0499.5 , leaving 100 hz=
 in band for uk access<br>

<br>
Graham<br>
<br>
G0NBD.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
--------------------------------------------------<br>
From: &quot;James Moritz&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:james.moritz@btopenwo=
rld.com" target=3D"_blank">james.moritz@btopenworld.com</a>&gt;<br>
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 2:14 PM<br>
To: &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" target=3D"_blank">=
rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a>&gt;<br>
Subject: LF: Re: US 500-kHz band plan<br>
<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1=
px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<br>
Dear LF Group,<br>
<br>
I still haven&#39;t replied to Fritz Raab, W1FR, regarding the WD2XSH US=
 band<br>
plan which he is apparently coordinating - you may remember I posted the=
 US<br>
proposals, which he sent me, a couple of weeks ago, but have not received<=
br>
any comments from other UK/Eu stations. I think I should reply with<br>
something, so now is your chance... The proposal relates to the US<br>
allocation extending to 495 - 515kHz, and how that would fit in with curre=
nt<br>
UK and Eu beacon operations. The content of the e-mail is below. The issue=
<br>
is that they would like to make a 501.0 - 501.2kHz WSPR sub-band, to fit=
 in<br>
with the various other proposals. Various other types of beacon modes are<=
br>
allocated frequencies outside the UK/EI/ON 501 - 504kHz range, while 501.2=
 -<br>
504kHz is allocated to &quot;general comms&quot;. Retaining frequencies ju=
st below<br>
504kHz would divide their &quot;general comms&quot; band in two<br>
<br>
I don&#39;t think there is anything preventing us from doing this, it is=
 just<br>
the inconvenience of turning the current band &quot;upside-down&quot;. Let=
 me know<br>
what you think!<br>
<br>
Cheers, Jim Moritz<br>
73 de M0BMU<br>
<br>
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px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D=
"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><blockquot=
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lid;padding-left:1ex">

>From W1FR:<br>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>
<br>
Greetings:<br>
<br>
 =A0 =A0Thanks for the comments on the band plan, passed<br>
along to me by W1XP.<br>
<br>
 =A0 =A0About a month ago, a modification to the WD2XSH<br>
license was approved that adds stations and gives us<br>
access to 495 - 510 kHz. =A0Perhaps half of the 42 stations<br>
will eventually get on the air. =A0Because of NDBs, some<br>
stations are limited to parts of this band and we will<br>
have two calling frequencies and two beacon bands.<br>
<br>
 =A0 =A0A draft of our new band plan follows. =A0Of particular<br>
interest is WSPR. =A0As I see it, our options are:<br>
<br>
(a) =A0501.0-501.2: =A0Conveniently on one side of our comms<br>
 =A0 =A0band. =A0Will not overload WSPR receivers near 504 kHz.<br>
 =A0 =A0Apparently in EU CW-beacon band.<br>
<br>
(b) =A0503.8-504.0: =A0Apparently same as what you guys are<br>
 =A0 =A0using. =A0Cuts our comms band in the middle. =A0Nearby<br>
 =A0 =A0stations may overload US receivers trying to hear EUs.<br>
<br>
(c) =A0503.9-504.1: =A0Same problems as above with cutting<br>
 =A0 =A0comms band in two and overloading. =A0Conveniently<br>
 =A0 =A0straddles both G/ON/EI and Canadian bands.<br>
<br>
 =A0 =A0Any further thoughts you may have will be<br>
appreciated.<br>
<br>
<br>
73, Fritz, W1FR<br>
<br>
Frederick H. (Fritz) Raab, Ph.D.<br>
GREEN MOUNTAIN RADIO RESEARCH COMPANY<br>
77 Vermont Avenue, Fort Ethan Allen<br>
Colchester, Vermont 05446 =A0USA<br>
Tel./Fax.: =A0+1 (802) 655-9670 =A0Home: =A0+1 (802) 862-0997<br>
E-mail: =A0<a href=3D"mailto:f.raab@ieee.org" target=3D"_blank">f.raab@iee=
e.org</a><br>
<br>
BASIC BAND PLAN for WD2XSH<br>
<br>
f, kHz =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0USE<br>
<br>
495.0 - 495.1 =A0 QRSS, 1-Hz spacing, 40 stations<br>
495.1 - 495.6 =A0 CW/PSK beacons midwest, 100-Hz spacing, 10 stations<br>
495.6 - 499.0 =A0 Comms<br>
497.5 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Calling frequency<br>
499.0 - 501.0 =A0 Reserved for heritage stations and special events<br>
501.0 - 501.2 =A0 WSPR<br>
501.2 - 505.0 =A0 Comms<br>
505.0 - 505.2 =A0 DX window<br>
505.2 - 508.5 =A0 Comms<br>
507.5 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Calling frequency<br>
508.5 - 510.0 =A0 CW/PSK beacons east, south, west, Pacific, 50-Hz spacing=
, 30<br>
stations<br>
510.0 - 511.0 =A0 WE2XGR beacons<br>
511.0 - 515.0 =A0 WE2XGR SSB and wideband modes<br>
<br>
<br>
OTHER IN-BAND SIGNALS<br>
<br>
503.976 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 NEED LSB<br>
505.0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 NEED carrier<br>
506.024 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 NEED USB<br>
<br>
508.976 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 OF/FA LSB<br>
510.0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 OF/FA carrier<br>
511.024 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 OF/FA USB<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
<br>
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137,502 KHz

1812 -12  0.7   0.137000  0 M0BMU IO91 23
1820 -15  0.6   0.137000  0 M0BMU IO91 23
1826 -12  0.3   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
1826   0  0.8   0.503927  0 SM6BHZ JO57 33
1828 -20  1.0   0.503910  0 G4WGT IO83 27
1830 -14  0.3   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
1834  -3  0.9   0.503927  0 SM6BHZ JO57 33

73

Victor

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens mal hamilton
Verzonden: zondag 20 september 2009 19:21
Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Onderwerp: LF: Re: RE: Re: WSPR 137.0k


Is this supposed to be Exciting, in my opinion machine generated repeative
data, with no real time exchange of information.
If this is forward thinking technology watch the band fold, this is not
Amateur Radio
G3KEV

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> 1454  -9  1.0   0.137000  0 M0BMU IO91 23
> 1500  -9  2.3   0.137000  0 M0BMU IO91 23
> 1508  -9  0.9   0.137000  0 M0BMU IO91 23
> 1514  -9  0.9   0.137000  0 M0BMU IO91 23
> 1522  -9  0.9   0.137000  0 M0BMU IO91 23
> 1526  -8  1.0   0.137000  0 M0BMU IO91 23
> 1532  -9  0.9   0.137000  0 M0BMU IO91 23
> 1536  -9  0.8   0.137000  0 M0BMU IO91 23
> 1544 -10  1.2   0.137000  0 M0BMU IO91 23
> 1550 -10  0.9   0.137000  0 M0BMU IO91 23
>
> 73
>
> Victor
> PA3FNY
>
> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens James Moritz
> Verzonden: zondag 20 september 2009 15:17
> Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Onderwerp: LF: Re: WSPR 137.0k
>
>
> Dear LF Group,
>
> The M0BMU WSPR beacon is now running on 135.5kHz "dial frequency",
> 137.0kHz
> RF out. Note change of frequency to try to avoid DCF39/HGA22 sidebands,
> which some stations experience problems with. Any reports over the next
> few
> hours would be very welcome.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
>
>


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* Gus <begu@algonet.se> [Thu, 24 Sep 2009 20:18:39 +0200]:
> Dear LF,
>
> this evening i test an SSB Beacon, QRG 508 kHz LSB.
> Reports are welcome.

Whats time you planing to finish?
Best reports for yesterday between 2230-0040 UTC

090923 2224  11 -20  1.2   0.503923  SM6BHZ JO57 33          0     1 
0
090923 2232  20 -13  1.4   0.503923  SM6BHZ JO57 33          0     1 
0
090923 2236  19 -14  1.4   0.503923  SM6BHZ JO57 33          0     1 
0
090923 2242  21 -11  1.2   0.503923  SM6BHZ JO57 33          0     1 
0
090923 2246  12 -21  1.4   0.503923  SM6BHZ JO57 33          0     1 
0
090923 2252  17 -17  1.4   0.503923  SM6BHZ JO57 33          0     1 
0
090923 2258  20 -13  1.4   0.503923  SM6BHZ JO57 33          0     1 
0
090923 2302  23  -9  1.5   0.503923  SM6BHZ JO57 33          0     1 
0
090923 2308  22 -11  1.3   0.503923  SM6BHZ JO57 33          0     1 
0
090923 2312  23 -10  1.4   0.503923  SM6BHZ JO57 33          0     1 
0
090923 2318  22 -10  1.4   0.503923  SM6BHZ JO57 33          0     1 
0
090923 2326  20 -12  1.6   0.503923  SM6BHZ JO57 33          0     1 
0
090923 2330  16 -16  1.7   0.503923  SM6BHZ JO57 33          0     1 
0
090923 2334  13 -19  1.6   0.503923  SM6BHZ JO57 33          0     1 
0
090923 2340  20 -12  1.7   0.503923  SM6BHZ JO57 33          0     1 
0
090923 2344  24 -10  1.4   0.503923  SM6BHZ JO57 33          0     1 
0
090923 2348  22 -10  1.6   0.503923  SM6BHZ JO57 33          0     1 
0
090923 2356  25  -7  1.6   0.503923  SM6BHZ JO57 33          0     1 
0
090924 0004  26  -7  1.8   0.503923  SM6BHZ JO57 33          0     1 
0
090924 0012  20 -13  1.7   0.503923  SM6BHZ JO57 33          0     1 
0
090924 0018  24  -9  1.8   0.503923  SM6BHZ JO57 33          0     1 
0
090924 0024  17 -15  1.9   0.503923  SM6BHZ JO57 33          0     1 
0
090924 0032  13 -17  2.0   0.503923  SM6BHZ JO57 33          0    62 
0
090924 0038  11 -20  2.0   0.503923  SM6BHZ JO57 33          0     1 
0

> 73 de Gus SM6BHZ
> www.sm6bhz.com
>




--
Roman RW3ADB.


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Thank you, Claude.

73
John F5VLF

*********** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***********

On 24/09/2009 at 17:49 Claude Berthebaud wrote:

>Hi John lf Group
>Thank you for the controversy after modificaltion transformer impedance=
=20
>advocated by Michel F5Wk
>I've tested the system 48 v 3.5A appears it is no major problem to presen=
t=20
>.... good evening everyone
>Claude F8boj
>Thank you for your information about your conditions of reception of 137
>kHz
>73 s
>----- Original Message -----=20
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>Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 5:31 PM
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>> At 1530z.
>>
>> F5VLF
>>
>>
>>
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Dave,

Looks to be the  same problem I had at the end of last year with a delta-4 
pci sound card , the  card worked fine for data modesand did not  need to 
have a clock adjustment,  however it  produced some confusing results on 
wspr, in that it appeared to  shorten the  transmission time by a couple of 
seconds, which in turn, resulted in only low/ noisy signals decoding on rx , 
with the  same  situation occurring during tx, in that a slolid signal  did 
not  decode where as a lower/broken reception decoded reliably.

Changing to  the  older awe64 resolved the problem.

G ..



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From: "Dave Sergeant" <dave@davesergeant.com>
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Subject: LF: Re: WSPR beacon

>
> On 6 Sep 2009 at 21:05, James Moritz wrote:
>
>> Dear LF Group,
>>
>> The M0BMU WSPR beacon is running again - I have jacked up the antenna to
>> increase the ERP a bit. G4WGT and G7NKS are also active - any reports
>> would be very welcome.
>>
>> Cheers, Jim Moritz
>> 73 de M0BMU
>
> OK, it looks as if the sound card clock synch error is the problem. As
> suggested I have been trying recording for the first minute of each
> period then stopping - by the simple expedient of switching the K2 to a
> different band. Result, solid copy.....
>
> 1958  16  2.5   0.503972  0 M0BMU IO91 37
> 2000  16  2.4   0.503972  0 M0BMU IO91 37
> 2002  16  2.6   0.503972  0 M0BMU IO91 37
> 2006 -26  6.2   0.503965  0 M0BMU IO91 37
> 2006  16  2.6   0.503972  0 000AAA (BadMsg)
> 2008  12  2.5   0.503972  0 M0BMU IO91 37
> 2010  11  2.7   0.503971  0 M0BMU IO91 37
>
> (apart from something went a bit wrong at 2006... And note the +16dB,
> you are strong!).
>
> I can see a couple of other weak traces on the spectrogram but no copy
> of others.
>
> (and having now stopped doing that tedious turning off after 1 minute I
> now see that it is copying Jim solidly now on full cycles. Maybe you
> did something your end Jim?.....)
>
> 73 Dave G3YMC
>
> http://www.davesergeant.com
>
>
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James Moritz wrote:
> Dear Roger, LF Group,
> 
> I intend to run the WOLF beacon again from around 1900utc onwards this 
> evening

Jim,

This is too easy....


2009-09-10 19:03:19 >WOLF10  -r 7997.017 -f 1000 -t 1.0 -d 5 -w 0.0000
t:  24 f: 0.422 a:-1.0 dp: 79.6 ci: 9 cj:455 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t:  48 f: 0.420 a:-0.9 dp: 79.1 ci: 9 cj:455 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t:  96 f: 0.419 a:-0.7 dp: 77.5 ci: 9 cj:455 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t: 192 f: 0.420 pm:80.90 jm: 50 q:  7.2  6.8 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t: 288 f: 0.420 pm:82.21 jm: 50 q:  6.8  6.1 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t: 384 f: 0.420 pm:82.22 jm: 50 q:  5.0  4.3 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -


Cheers!

John
GM4SLV


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As I found out, relatively small improvements/changes to the system result
in substantial improvements in performance.

The mini VNA has been a real help in getting stuff aligned.

Jim - using this formula could you estimate what my ERP is?

With best regards
 
 
Jim
 
 
Dr. James Cowburn

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Dear Roger, LF Group,

It is interesting to make an estimate of what G3XBM's ERP might be...

The noise level at M0BMU during relatively quiet daytime conditions I 
estimate to be of the order of 3uV/m in the 2.5kHz WSPR reference bandwidth.

The reported SNR gets up to about -25dB, making the signal level from G3XBM 
about 0.18uV/m.

ERP = (Ed)^2 / 49; with E = 0.18 x 10e-6, d = 69000m , ERP is about 3uW with

only "geometric spreading" propagation losses. But there is some additional 
reduction in field strength due to ground wave propagation losses, perhaps 
3dB with "good" ground, so the ERP would then become about 6uW. Diffraction 
losses due to the curvature of the earth are negligible at this distance.

Obviously, this could be +/- several dB due to various uncertainties, but 
should be of the right order of magnitude. Plenty of potential for 
improvement then!

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU 




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No decodes overnight - Im going to say its not because of QRN but more QRM=
 last night.

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A local coastal radio here (whose callsign shall remain nameless) has a fa=
ulty transmitter on 484kHz - its RF getting into their audio lines and Im=
 guessing the tx is VOX line operated or appears so at the moment,and is=
 on permanent tx with that all too well known RF into the audio line scree=
ching.=20

=20

White/gray/pink/Blue noise extends eitherside of their  SSB tx passband an=
d into 503khz range looking at the spec analyser. Its 40 over 9 here on ma=
in channel but crud is enough at 503 to mask WSPR :-((    Im hoping they=
 fix it today as theyve been told its nixing Naxtex too...

=20

It quietning down QRN wise as the last Typhoon dissapates but I see anothe=
r one heading for Hong Kong...

=20

Sorry=20

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No decodes overnight - Im going to say its not because of QRN but more QRM=
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&nbsp;<BR>
A local coastal radio here (whose callsign&nbsp;shall remain nameless) has=
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 is on permanent tx with that all too well known RF into the audio line sc=
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&nbsp;<BR>
White/gray/pink/Blue noise extends eitherside of their&nbsp; SSB tx passba=
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 on main channel but crud is enough at 503 to mask WSPR :-((&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp; Im hoping they fix it today as theyve been told its nixing Naxtex too=
...<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
It quietning down QRN wise as the last Typhoon dissapates but I see anothe=
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&nbsp;<BR>
Sorry <BR>
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Hello LF,
Capture HF70W
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Peter Cleall wrote:

> I have always been interested in propagation.
> These WSPR signals are seen by some as repetitious rubbish.

Not by some... by just one... the group troll...

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That carrier on 504 and associated mod is pushing sidebands into the WSPR=
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Laurence in BY

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=20

The link to my server was really slow last night but appears better here=
 this mng.

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That carrier on 504 and associated mod is pushing sidebands into the WSPR=
 section quite strongly here. Grabber running.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Laurence in BY<BR>
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The link to my server was really slow last night but appears better here=
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--- On Tue, 9/22/09, VK2ZTO <vk2zto@djirra.com> wrote:

> G'day Alberto,

> The enjoyment derived from these would not be possible
> without your software.
> 
> Along with your other software you have made a positive
> contribution to our hobby and (I apologise for using an 'F'
> word) raised the level of FUN for a lot of operators.
> 
> Sorry to embarass you with this paean, but to not
> acknowledge such contributions would be small-minded in the
> extreme.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 73 Steve 


I am very new to the world of LF, ( 2 years ), I too have found 
the software contributions from these Unselfish ( not money hungry )
men to be of great value.

Thank you Gentlemen for your time and efforts; along with your
willingness to share your knowledge with the community.

73 to all :::

Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz ( QRSS-60 )
Coordinates:  N:  35* 43' 54" - W:  84* 3' 16"
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Hi Jim!
Best screen-shot trace of your wspr: 
http://rw3adb.narod.ru/2009/20sep2009_M0BMU_137WSPR/135.5W_120_00017.jpg
There is no decoded into program WSPR.
There is no trace wspr in mode-120 now actually.
Re-start WSPR 135.58 dial up to morning and grabber ON.

Roman


* Clemens Paul <cpaul@gmx.net> [Mon, 21 Sep 2009 00:23:18 +0200]:
> Hello Jim,
>
> I got you at 2202z on 135.5 dial qrg:
> 2202   8  0.9   0.556500  0 M0BMU IO91 23
> As you can see I had a entered a wrong qrg in the frequency window.
> Fortunately upload window was unchecked therefore no wrong spot uplad 
to
> the database
> has happened.:-)
>
> 73
> Clemens
> DL4RAJ
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "James Moritz" <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 9:08 PM
> Subject: Re: LF: Re: WSPR 137.0k
>
>
> > Dear LF Group,
> >
> > Thanks for all the reports so far. The beacon will continue running
> for at
> > least a few more hours, although it looks like another noisy night 
on
> 136k.
> >
> > Cheers, Jim Moritz
> > 73 de M0BMU
> >
>
>
> 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
> No virus found in this incoming message.
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> Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.108/2383 - Release Date:
> 09/19/09 17:50:00




--
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...I should have said that it is on 503.975kHz, 502.4k "dial frequency"
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "James Moritz" <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>
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> Dear LF Group,
>
> The M0BMU WSPR beacon is running again - I have jacked up the antenna to 
> increase the ERP a bit. G4WGT and G7NKS are also active - any reports 
> would be very welcome.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
> 



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Tonight is probably my last chance to receive any new WSPR reports before I
go on holiday, so I'll leave the beacon running until around 8am UK time
tomorrow on 33% TX. If there are any night owls around, I'd appreciate a few
receivers staying on 500kHz just in case you might hear me.

73s
Roger G3XBM

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G3XBM    GQRP 1678      ISWL G11088

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Tonight is probably my last chance to receive any new WSPR reports before=
 I go on holiday, so I&#39;ll leave the beacon running until around 8am UK=
 time tomorrow on 33% TX. If there are any night owls around, I&#39;d appr=
eciate a few receivers staying on 500kHz just in case you might hear me.<b=
r>
<br>73s<br>Roger G3XBM<br clear=3D"all"><br>------------------------------=
-------------------------------<br><a href=3D"http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.co=
m/">http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.g3xbm.co.u=
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Dear Chris, LF Group,

Thanks for the reports on the 136kHz signals.

G4AYT wrote:
>>>
...I am having difficulty in seeing the point of some of this when there is 
little in the way of exchanged information between stations. There is a 
place for beacons, certainly. What concerns me is that the casual listener 
tuning across the band probably has no idea there's anybody on.
>>>

On 500k, there are a handful of fairly local stations and a couple of "big 
guns" who I can work routinely in CW. The information I can exchange with 
these stations is quite limited by the licence conditions; information about 
the station and some pleasant personal chatter. With other stations, 
communication is usually quite difficult, and exchange of information is 
usually limited to callsigns and signal reports. These kind of marginal QSOs 
are usually regarded as more "valuable" in amateur circles, although the 
information exchanged may amount to less than 10 alphanumeric characters 
each way. It isn't really the amount of information, but the fact you 
actually managed to transmit it. On the other hand, WSPR allows a similar or 
greater amount of information (callsign, location, power output for 
comparison with received signal level) to be transmitted routinely at signal 
levels where even marginal CW just isn't feasible. The fact it can be 
automatically monitored over extended periods, and the information 
immediately shared via a publicly-accessible database adds a whole series of 
other possibilities too.

Since the start of 500kHz, I have received one or two listener reports for 
CW signals from stations not already on this reflector. On the other hand, I 
have received reports from over 80 different stations in about 18 countries 
for the WSPR beacon, most not otherwise part of the 500kHz scene. This 
includes stations too far away to receive CW, those who do not have good 
receiving conditions, or those who are just not morse operators. So I think 
it encourages far more people than it discourages.

Cheers, Jim moritz
73 de M0BMU 



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Just trying Mal on CW

 

Will be back on WSPR in a bit

 

With best regards

 

 

Jim

 

 

Dr. James Cowburn

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Broom

Biggleswade

Beds

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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB
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Subject: LF: G7NKS WSPR

 

WSPR record for G7NKS. Looking for others!

 

1658  -8  0.8   0.503942 -1 G7NKS IO92 23

1720  -4  0.7   0.503944 -1 G7NKS IO92 23

1732  -5  0.9   0.503942 -1 G7NKS IO92 23
1740  -4  0.9   0.503942  1 G7NKS IO92 23

1749  -7  1.6   0.503948 -1 G7NKS IO92 23

 

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor, S.E. England

 

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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Roger Lapthorn
Sent: 16 September 2009 15:48
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: G3XBM 500kHz WSPR beacon back on - any stronger?

Good Folks,

Have made some quick changes to the 500kHz antenna and ground system (now
using my 10m halo and feed now as a short vertical with top capacity loading
and using the 15m long-wire as a radial along with the central heating
ground) and am putting the WSPR beacon back on shortly. Interested to know
if the changes have made much difference. Antenna current is higher so I
hope it will radiate a some more. Reports and screenshots gratefully
received.

On RX, G7NKS is about the same S/N as this morning before the changes. Not
quite sure what this is telling me.

BTW, I know I drift upwards about 50Hz for about 20 mins as the transverter
xtal oscillator settles.

73s
Roger G3XBM

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http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'fo=
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t></b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;fon=
t-family:Tahoma'> owner-<st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blac=
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rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</st1:PersonName>] <b><span style=3D'font-=
weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Dave G3WCB<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 16 September 2009=
 19:05<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:s=
t=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> LF: G7NKS WSPR=
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0.503942 -1 G7NKS IO92 23<br>
1740&nbsp; -4&nbsp; 0.9&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503942&nbsp; 1 G7NKS IO92 23</sp=
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yle=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>73, Dave G3WCB=
 IO91RM nr <st1:City w:st=3D"on">Windsor</st1:City>,
S.E. <st1:country-region w:st=3D"on"><st1:place w:st=3D"on">England</s=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3D2 fac=
e=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Or=
iginal Message-----<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> owner-<st1:Person=
Name w:st=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</st1:PersonName>
[mailto:owner-<st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=
</st1:PersonName>]<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </s=
pan></b>Roger Lapthorn<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 16 September 2009=
 15:48<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:s=
t=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> LF: G3XBM 500k=
Hz WSPR
beacon back on - any stronger?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'>Good Folks,<br>
<br>
Have made some quick changes to the 500kHz antenna and ground system=
 (now using
my 10m halo and feed now as a short vertical with top capacity loading=
 and
using the 15m long-wire as a radial along with the central heating gro=
und) and
am putting the WSPR beacon back on shortly. Interested to know if the=
 changes
have made much difference. Antenna current is higher so I hope it will=
 radiate
a some more. Reports and screenshots gratefully received.<br>
<br>
On RX, G7NKS is about the same S/N as this morning before the changes.=
 Not
quite sure what this is telling me.<br>
<br>
BTW, I know I drift upwards about 50Hz for about 20 mins as the transv=
erter
xtal oscillator settles.<br>
<br>
73s<br>
Roger G3XBM<br clear=3Dall>
<br>
-------------------------------------------------------------<br>
<a href=3D"http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/">http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.c=
om/</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.g3xbm.co.uk">http://www.g3xbm.co.uk</a><br>
G3XBM &nbsp; &nbsp;GQRP 1678 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;ISWL G11088<o:p></o:p=
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Hi Gus, LF!
-13 the best today here.

090914 1858  13 -19  1.5   0.503925  SM6BHZ JO57 40          0     1 
0
090914 1902  16 -15  1.6   0.503925  SM6BHZ JO57 40          0     1 
0
090914 1910  13 -19  1.4   0.503925  SM6BHZ JO57 40          0     1 
0
090914 1918  10 -22  1.5   0.503925  SM6BHZ JO57 40          0     1 
0
090914 1922   9 -23  1.5   0.503925  SM6BHZ JO57 40          0     1 
0
090914 1930   5 -26  1.5   0.503925  SM6BHZ JO57 40          0     2 
0
090914 1934   6 -25  1.6   0.503925  SM6BHZ JO57 40          0     1 
0
090914 1942  16 -14  1.6   0.503925  SM6BHZ JO57 40          0     1 
0
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0
090914 1954  18 -14  1.6   0.503925  SM6BHZ JO57 40          0     1 
0
090914 2000   6 -26  1.6   0.503925  SM6BHZ JO57 40          0     1 
0
090914 2008   9 -21  1.5   0.503925  SM6BHZ JO57 40          0     1 
0
090914 2012  12 -20  1.7   0.503925  SM6BHZ JO57 40          0     1 
0
090914 2018  15 -16  1.5   0.503925  SM6BHZ JO57 40          0     1 
0
090914 2026  11 -21  1.7   0.503925  SM6BHZ JO57 40          0     1 
0
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0
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0
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0
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0
090914 2126   8 -22  2.0   0.503925  SM6BHZ JO57 40          0     1 
0
090914 2130   2 -27  2.0   0.503925  SM6BHZ JO57 30          0   525 
0
090914 2134   7 -26  1.7   0.503925  SM6BHZ JO57 30          0     1 
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0
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0
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0
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0
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0
090914 2242   9 -21  2.2   0.503925  SM6BHZ JO57 30          0     1 
0
090914 2256   7 -24  2.3   0.503925  SM6BHZ JO57 30          0     1 
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* Dave G3WCB <ganymede444@btopenworld.com> [Tue, 15 Sep 2009 00:18:54 
+0100]:
> WSPR report of Gus's signal this evening.
>
> Also looking for G3XBM, but static levels re very high tonight.
>
> 2255  -6  0.6   0.503526  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>
> 73m Dave G3WCB IO91RM n Windsor S.E. England
>
> -
>




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Hi all LF'ers
I will be on 502.00 at 23.15 UTC  00.15 local, 100mW hand keyed cw.

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Ken   M0KHW

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Dear Andy,

I would suggest a frequency between 503.825 and 503.900, to avoid the QRM 
around 504kHz some people experience, and give a bit of tolerance for 
receiver frequency errors, which are sometimes suprisingly large. For some 
reason, the frequencies below 503.9 seem to be less widely used. But since 
there are only about half a dozen stations transmitting in this mode, there 
is plenty of space.

A 25% or 33% duty cycle seems to be frequent enough to catch most 
"openings" - probably less would be OK. As for power, I would suggest 
running as much as possible - monitoring signal level of a strong beacon  is 
easier than a weak one, and a relatively high power will give the greatest 
chance of being received by the maximum number of stations under the maximum 
range of conditions. You could argue that the presence of a "strong" beacon 
would sometimes prevent reception of very weak signals nearby in frequency, 
but since this only can happen 25% or 33% of the time, and the signal is not 
so strong at a few 100 mW ERP,  it is probably not a serious objection in 
practice.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU 



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Roger, what freq are you on tonight? I'm seeing a  v  e  r  y  faint trace
that isn't decoding.

Dave G3WCB
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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Roger Lapthorn
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  Early reports of my WSPR beacon from G3XVL and M0BMU suggest a VERY slight
improvement (2-3dB at best) has been achieved. Let's hope  a few others spot
me tonight.

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  Roger G3XBM

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Hello Jim,

vy glad to copy your WSPR-signal this evening in JN59LN!

2312 -29  4.4   0.503916 -2 G7NKS IO92 23

vy 73 de Gerhard  //  DK6NI  (JN59LN)

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Mori's would be fully readable at qrss 3 speeds - and given hes only  @ 50=
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 not too shabby ERP.

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Dang Typhoons...

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Good strong signal here
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Mori's would be fully&nbsp;readable at qrss&nbsp;3 speeds&nbsp;- and given=
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Dear LF
  WSPR records for  G0NBD G7NKS SM6BHZ M0BMU (a small selection).  

  Again, no sign of Roger so far, but I'll leave it running over night.
  2122 -16  0.9   0.503959  0 G7NKS IO92 27
  2124  -2  0.7   0.503926  0 SM6BHZ JO57 33
  2128  14  0.2   0.503841  0 M0BMU IO91 33
  2128 -19  0.3   0.503926  0 SM6BHZ JO57 33
  2130 -18  0.6   0.503960  0 G7NKS IO92 27
  2134  15  0.0   0.503841  0 M0BMU IO91 33
  2136  -6  0.4   0.503926  0 SM6BHZ JO57 33
  2142  14  0.0   0.503841  0 M0BMU IO91 33
  2144   0  1.1   0.503888  0 G0NBD IO83 23
  2144  -2  0.3   0.503926  0 SM6BHZ JO57 33


  73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM

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BD&nbsp;</SPAN>G7NKS SM6BHZ M0BMU (a small=20
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Still 30dB over and 569 by ear at 1545z.

F5VLF

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Hello Dave and LF group
Thank you for this first qso g3wcb dave ....
now I'm not good antenna for you in good
conditions the antenna used for this traditional
band is in maintenace now ... your signal here was
Mr. MM ..... then finally qso on loop for the top band hi
My locator is JN16WA ...
L inv 172m .....
qsl info ...qrz.com
Dave good weekend ... see you soon on 137 khz
73's F8boj Claude..

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> LF,
> F8BOJ very strong QRSS signals this morning on 137.740. Screenshot 
> attached.
> New station for me!
>
> 73, Dave IO91RM nr Windsor, S E England
>
> 




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1kw was a little too much for my antenna coil. The coil former melted
down and tomorrow I have to get another one ;-)
73 de Toni


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Hello Dave, LF

A new WSPR one for me!

1852 -26  1.2   0.503808  0 G3YXM IO92 27

Nice to see you on the mode from Shetland,

Cheers,

John
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Graham,

I tried to upload them, but they were rejected due to some error in the file. I was using a laptop at a portable QTH, and anything is possible. Will be listening again tonight from home.

John, W1TAG

---- Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote: 
> John,
> 
> Are these spots up loaded to the  wspr  database , im not  seeing any at 
> your  range ?
> 
> G ..
> 
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> >
> > I have some copy of SM6BHZ in the past half hour:
> > 0016 -29  0.9   0.503951   0  SM6BHZ JO57 30
> > 0026 -28  1.0   0.503951   0  SM6BHZ JO57 30
> > 0034 -27  1.0   0.503951   0  SM6BHZ JO57 30
> > 0040 -26  1.2   0.503951   0  SM6BHZ JO57 30
> >
> > Will let it run overnight and see if any other calls show up.
> >
> > John Andrews, W1TAG/1
> > Raymond, Maine FN42ch
> >
> >
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> > No virus found in this incoming message.
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To little band with !! :-))

de Gus

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> Gus, to you remains only AM and FM to try )
> 
> 73 Andrey
>




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There's a decode for M0LMH by AA1A at 05:54 today, but just that one
solitary one.

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There&#39;s a decode for M0LMH by AA1A at 05:54 today, but just that one solitary one.<br clear="all"><br>Dave.<br>-- <br>G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK<br>

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Hi John,

Im just happy the thing is working tonight, with no 10 hz steps in the 
frequency , must admit I forgot to change the  power level  , it was 10 
watts at the  end of last  nights run , but tx power has been  100 watts 
carrier to the  Ae all night .....  erp  at a guess round the  100mW  mark 
tops

.The  power level  It  was me , I suggested that the  erp be  displayed on 
500 as the power to the Ae did convey very much inn terms of  radiated power 
....

G .

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>
> Hello all,
>
> Nice signals from all WSPRers
>
> I see there's a disagreement amongst you about whether to report ERP or
> TX power. Is there an agreed standard for this on MF/LF?
>
> Jim, Gary & Gus seem to report ERP and Graham reports TX power. This
> makes Graham's spots look poorer than they should be.
>
> I remember some discussion a few months ago about this, but can't
> remember the concensus that was reached. It would be good though if you
> all did the same thing, to gove a consistent approach and to allow
> better comparison between S/N, Distance and Power.
>
> Cheers,
>
> John
> GM4SLV
>
> Gus wrote:
>> Dear Jim and group,
>>
>> this evening i run WSPR beacon with abt 10 dB more power.
>
>



>
> No virus found in this incoming message.
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> 17:51:00
> 




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Hello Claude,you should make tries beacon in QRSS60 at night, with  your 
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Cheers my friends.
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HI, Claude!
RN3AGC Andrey ask you trying to TX on 137777 up to 2-3 hours later.
Trying to see you in Moscow.
The grabbers started ON:
http://www.rn3agc.msk.ru/grabber1.shtml
http://qrss.nm.ru/grabber.html

--
Roman RW3ADB.


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Hi Warren,

right now i run abt 2 W erp.

73 de Gus SM6BHZ


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> Gus,
>  How much power on ssb?
> -- 
> 73 Warren K2ORS
>                WD2XGJ
>                WD2XSH/23
>                WE2XEB/2
>                WE2XGR/1
> 
> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Gus <begu@algonet.se> wrote:
>> Dear LF,
>>
>> this evening i test an SSB Beacon, QRG 508 kHz LSB.
>> Reports are welcome.
>>
>> 73 de Gus SM6BHZ
>> www.sm6bhz.com
>>
>>
>




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Mal,

Not helpful and factually incorrect.

73s
Roger



2009/9/1 mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>

>  All WSPR signals last evening struggling in QRN/QRS whereas they were
> audible here and if in CW mode I could easily have made a real time QSO.
> decode was marginal, and then the same old repetive rubbish.
> g3kev
>
>
>



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Mal,<br><br>Not helpful and factually incorrect.<br><br>73s<br>Roger<br><b=
r><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/9/1 mal hamilton <span dir=3D"lt=
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<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">All WSPR signals last evening struggl=
ing in QRN/QRS=20
whereas they were audible here and if in=A0CW mode I could easily=20
have=A0made a real time QSO.</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">decode was marginal, and then the sam=
e old repetive=20
rubbish.</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">g3kev</font></div>
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Take more water with it.
 
I have no idea what you are seeing in your vision.
 
David
 
 
 
In a message dated 02/09/2009 20:59:12 GMT Standard Time,  
g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk writes:

This is well on par with the  goon show ,  

how to  open the  door , turn the   handle on your side . but I haven't 
.....etc 
 
>> wasn't decoding because I don't yet have a decoder.<<  

Just the  song ,  .... .. ....  ..  

G 
 



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What has that got to do with LF ?

Andy
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<DIV>Take more water with it.</DIV>
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<DIV>I have no idea what you are seeing in your vision.</DIV>
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<DIV>In a message dated 02/09/2009 20:59:12 GMT Standard Time,=20
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This is well on par with the&nbsp; goon=
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>how to&nbsp; open the&nbsp; door , turn=
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Ok Dennis,

Yes I see  what you are describing, the system has  some  randomness in the 
tx / rx windows , most stations will set the  system to  33%  tx , ie you 
send for  33% of a  time period ..... the  system is in 'rx'  for the  other 
2/3 of the  time ...... as the top of the  minuet approaches, the  system 
enters 'rx' mode and  records for a 120  second  window .. this  co insides 
with 'other' stations  commencing tx

Once the  window is  closed ,the  received file is processed and the 
results are displayed on your screen and if selected , the  software will 
transmit the  results via the  web to  the  central data base , which , by 
the  locator  also  calculates the  distance

Your station will then wait till the  next  00-00  and either enter  tx or 
re commence 'rx' , don't worry too much about  frequency stability, the 
system will resolve quite a drift during  rx and a few seconds of  time 
error

G ..




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>
>
>> >>>I have learnt, WSPR sounds like a slightly rough CW and is transmitted
>> in
>> >>>4min-blocks. <<<<<
>>
>> Dennis , That may  not be wspr , wspr  tx time is  120 seconds locked to
>> the
>> exact time , with the  start time on the  00-00
>> by sound its like a very  slow narrow shift psk signal .....but it is 
>> only
>> one  carrier  changing frequency  with  no breaks in the 120 second
>> transmission
>
> Okay better to say: One cycle seemed to be 4min, divided into abt. 115sec 
> TX and 125sec no TX, maybe RX? The beginning of the received transmissions 
> were always well within half a second around even minute + zero seconds 
> which to me seems to be the strongest hint that is really was some wspr 
> what I was hearing. (DCF77-clock beside the speaker)
>
> Since yesterday I'm looking for a notebook - to run wspr :)
>
> vy73
> Dennis
> DL6NVC
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Dear Roger, LF Group,

Well done on the first 500k attempt. There is quite a lot of QRN tonight on 
500k, which is reducing the signal-to-noise ratio. Hopefully, it will die 
down later - if you leave it running into daybreak tomorrow, you may well 
pick up a few more reports.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
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Hi Gus, LF!

1934  14 -19  1.1   0.503931  SM6BHZ JO57 30
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1946  17 -15  1.0   0.503931  SM6BHZ JO57 30

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*Hi LF,**
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*DJ6GT ?? captured this morning at 0954utc 29-09-2009 attached.*
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*73*
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*Gary - G4WGT - IO83QO.*

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Lubos OK2BVG wrote:
> Hello Clemens! My WSPR v.1.12 doesn=B4t work below 1MHz (=3D dial frq).
> It is the reason, why I use dial frequency 1.502500. Is there any
> "trick", how to set 0.502500?
>

Lubos,

It is easy!

Select "Band =3D Other"
In the "Dial" frequency box enter 0.5024

This works for me, with version 1.12


You might need to "double click" an area of the waterfall to set a TX=20
frequency, even though you are only using RX mode - I don't remember if=20
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Hello Lubos and LF,

thank's report !

73 de Gus
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Lubos OK2BVG=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 4:32 AM
  Subject: LF: WSPR_SM6BHZ_ED6TBF


  Hello Gus, LF!

  The signal of  SM6BHZ in the best time :

  2248   1  0.9   1.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
  2252   3  1.0   1.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
  2300   6  0.9   1.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
  2306   2  1.0   1.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30

  I saw ED6TBF also:

  0022 -20  5.0   1.504001  2 ED6TBF (BadMsg)

  73!

  Lubos, OK2BVG


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<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4 face=3DArial>Hello Lubos and=20
LF,</FONT></EM></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4 face=3DArial></FONT></EM></STRONG>&nbs=
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<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4 face=3DArial>thank's report=20
!</FONT></EM></STRONG></DIV>
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p;</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4 face=3DArial>73 de Gus</FONT></EM></ST=
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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  <A title=3Dbvgbob@hotmail.com href=3D"mailto:bvgbob@hotmail.com">Lub=
os OK2BVG</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@=
blacksheep.org     href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_l=
f_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, September 12,=
 2009 4:32=20
  AM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: WSPR_SM6BHZ_ED6T=
BF</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>Hello Gus, LF!<BR><BR>The signal of&nbsp; SM6BHZ in=
 the best=20
  time :<BR><BR>2248&nbsp;&nbsp; 1&nbsp; 0.9&nbsp;&nbsp; 1.503925&nbsp=
; 0 SM6BHZ=20
  JO57 30<BR>2252&nbsp;&nbsp; 3&nbsp; 1.0&nbsp;&nbsp; 1.503925&nbsp;=
 0 SM6BHZ=20
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HI henny and LF
Many thanks for the pics report...
good week
F8boj Claude JN16WA
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  Hello LF,
  Capture BOJ
  Henny pa3cpm
  73s
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Your signal excellent here copy here, sorry can't get back to you.
Vy 73,
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Hello John and LF
Many thanks for the repport I am in qrp 24v 0.95A
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F8boj Claude JN16WA
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Hello Warren, LF!
Last night was quaiet and the propagation on 137kHz was very good here. I saw "XGJ" three times.
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Hello Warren, LF!<br>Last night was quaiet and the propagation on 137kHz was very good here. I saw "XGJ" three times.<br>73!<br><br>Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS &nbsp; <br><br /><hr />Sdílejte své zážitky s kýmkoli chcete <a href='http://www.microsoft.com/cze/windows/windowslive/products/photos-share.aspx?tab=1' target='_new'>s kýmkoli chcete.</a></body>
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As I think I may now have sorted sound card calibration I was wondering if
there was any WOLF action tonight to test it out?

 

With best regards

 

 

Jim

 

 

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WE2XGR/2 will be in WOLF mode on 508.5 kHz from 0400 - 1100Z tonight/tomorrow morning. Reports are 
always appreciated.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2 



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Dear Roman, Gus, LF
In Gdansk today SM6BHZ WSPR signal +2dB.
And I am interested crosband qso.
--
Vy 73!
Marcin SQ2BXI

> Hi LF!
> 
> Looking SM6BHZ WSPR -19 now.
> 
> Somebody interesting to make an x-band 503 kHz/40 or 80m today?
> 
> --
> Roman RW3ADB.
> 


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He's from Northern Ireland and was transported to the Yorkshire penal colony
of Scarborough for being too vexatious and grumpy for the Northern Irish,
(that in itself is an achievement given that the Northern Irish are accepted
as the most argumentative and provocativee of the peoples who live on this
group of cold damp islands in the North Sea!)

So far off group topic as likely to incur the wrath of moderators and big
brothers so I'll stop now and get back to my coil and transformer winding
and sausage sandwich

With best regards
 
 
Jim
 
 
Dr. James Cowburn
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Mal,

>
> I am not from Yorkshire and therefore the Yorkshire accent is non 
> applicable.
>

Sorry - I thought Scarborough was in Yorkshire - I will have to look up 
Google Maps.

Or perhaps you mean you are a blow in (not born there, but moved there..).

>
> We have strayed away from LF/MF time to get back on track What is WSPR 
> doing for AUSTRALIA?
>

I like to learn.  I believe I will have something to learn everyday until I 
die.   At least that is my fervent wish (to learn, not to die...).

I played with WSPR for a couple of months and it taught me a lot about 
propagation.    With normal ham operation you don't get the 24/7 band 
opening watch as you do with WSPR.

WSPR is not for everyone - especially if you are after the awards.    I am a

self-confessed non-award chaser.

For those who, like myself, are still fascinated by the sheer magic of radio

even after 40 years, WSPR allows a fascinating (granted non-perfect) view of

radio propagation.

Here in Australia (I speak for the period when I was using it), it kindled a

lot of interest and discussion amongst those of us who like talking about 
radio to like-minded individuals.   I can only say it has been a positive 
influence.

These days the newest interest in VK for a lot of us is our newly acquired 
access to the 136kHz.

Despite being old hat for some over there, here it has sparked a rush to the

soldering irons and delving into raising the bar regarding frequency 
accuracy and stability.

Spare a though for us in VK, just when we have arrived at the 136kHz trough,

the rest of the world is heading off for the 500kHz feeding station 
(including our leaders in things LF/MF over here, the Kiwis...)

73   Steve Olney - VK2XV

http://www.djirra.com




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Hi ALL LF!
I'm read some messages and answer. But I so very out of reality to next 
discussion now. -)
I start my grabber ON 502.4 dial.
And start WSPR. Fine prog! Gold monument to Joe Taylor, K1JT on his 
motherland during his life!
I can reading all other messages tomorrow.

73!
Roman


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After 10 years HB9ASB is back on 136 KHz.
Testing on 136.5 kHz in CW with modest power and antenna. Will
increase pwr and install QRS later this year. 73 de Toni, JN36NU near
Fribourg


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* James Moritz <james.moritz@btopenworld.com> [Sun, 6 Sep 2009 21:05:12 
+0100]:
> Dear LF Group,
Hi Jim & LF!
Start my grabber on 503.5 dial freq.
http://qrss.nm.ru/grabber.html
But do not any traces near 504.

Roman


> The M0BMU WSPR beacon is running again - I have jacked up the antenna 
to
> increase the ERP a bit. G4WGT and G7NKS are also active - any reports
> would
> be very welcome.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
>




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Hello LF!
The DFCW signal of HF70W was huge last night.

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Hi Marcin,

Ok! one could test this evening with the antenna in the right direction .
I will ON the grabber  towards 19:00 UTC until 22:00 UTC with the
antenna at the QTF 55=B0 . Then I will pass in direction the USA .

73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

Marcin a =E9crit :
> Hello Jean Pierre
> Your grabber regularly copy my signal:
> http://www.sp2kds.pl/images/stories/f1afj.jpg
> Vy 73!
> Marcin SQ2BXI
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> Hello Marcin ,
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> Tnx for info , my antenna are at QTF 295=B0 (USA)
>
> 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj
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> Marcin a =E9crit :
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>> Dear Jean Pierre, LF
>> It is HF70W QRSS 60 signal.
>> Vy 73!
>> Marcin SQ2BXI
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>>    =20
>>> Hello LF'ers ,
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>>> I copy on 137,778 unidentified signal ?
>>> 22:00 =3D> 23:00 utc ( see on picture )
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>>> 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj
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On 6 Sep 2009 at 21:05, James Moritz wrote:

> Dear LF Group,
> 
> The M0BMU WSPR beacon is running again - I have jacked up the antenna to
> increase the ERP a bit. G4WGT and G7NKS are also active - any reports
> would be very welcome.
> 
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU 

OK, it looks as if the sound card clock synch error is the problem. As 
suggested I have been trying recording for the first minute of each 
period then stopping - by the simple expedient of switching the K2 to a 
different band. Result, solid copy.....

1958  16  2.5   0.503972  0 M0BMU IO91 37
2000  16  2.4   0.503972  0 M0BMU IO91 37
2002  16  2.6   0.503972  0 M0BMU IO91 37
2006 -26  6.2   0.503965  0 M0BMU IO91 37
2006  16  2.6   0.503972  0 000AAA (BadMsg)
2008  12  2.5   0.503972  0 M0BMU IO91 37
2010  11  2.7   0.503971  0 M0BMU IO91 37

(apart from something went a bit wrong at 2006... And note the +16dB, 
you are strong!).

I can see a couple of other weak traces on the spectrogram but no copy 
of others.

(and having now stopped doing that tedious turning off after 1 minute I 
now see that it is copying Jim solidly now on full cycles. Maybe you 
did something your end Jim?.....)

73 Dave G3YMC

http://www.davesergeant.com



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Dear LF Group,

I am now running a "standard" WOLF 10 mode beacon on 503.500kHz for the next 
few hours. Any reports would be very welcome. Information and software 
downloads can be found at http://freenet-homepage.de/dl4yhf/wolf/index.html. 
The beacon may shut down from time to time, because the signal seems to 
scramble my ADSL modem...

Cheers, Jim Moritz
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Dear Dave, Roger, LF Group,

I have attached a screen shot of WSPR signals from SM6BHZ and G3XBM received 
just now, using Spectrum Lab set up for QRSS3 reception. The corresponding 
WSPR spots were:

1836 -12  0.0   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 33
1840 -27  2.9   0.503890  0 G3XBM JO02 0

SM6BHZ was an audible signal which would have been weak but copy-able CW - I 
expect Gus's signal will pick up by 10dB or so as the night progresses. 
G3XBM is never audible at all - the QRN is building rapidly now, but during 
the day I get 100% copy at about -25 or -26dB; when noise levels build up I 
sometimes get correct copy at -30dB or so. So that's what it looks like when 
it is working ;-)

It makes no detectable difference whether I use the SSB filter or 250Hz CW 
filter on the IC718 - even the local signals on 500k are not really strong 
enough to overload the audio, provided the RF gain is backed well off so 
that the S meter reads about s7 or 8. You do need the narrow filter on 136k 
of course.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU

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Hello John and Clemens!

Select "Band =3D Other"
In the "Dial" frequency box enter 0.5024

Yes, it was the first setting, what I tried, but it didn=B4t work. I am su=
re, that something other was wrong in my PC, becouse I am just testing thi=
s setting and all is OK. Thanks for yours  support in this problem! You ma=
de me sure, my first setting was OK. I am glad, WSPR is doing well now.=20

Thanks and 73!

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

******************************

> Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 10:07:11 +0000
> From: gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: Re: LF: WSPR_SET
>=20
> Lubos OK2BVG wrote:
> > Hello Clemens! My WSPR v.1.12 doesn=B4t work below 1MHz (=3D dial frq)=
.
> > It is the reason, why I use dial frequency 1.502500. Is there any
> > "trick", how to set 0.502500?
> >
>=20
> Lubos,
>=20
> It is easy!
>=20
> Select "Band =3D Other"
> In the "Dial" frequency box enter 0.5024
>=20
> This works for me, with version 1.12
>=20
>=20
> You might need to "double click" an area of the waterfall to set a TX=20
> frequency, even though you are only using RX mode - I don't remember if=
=20
> this is necessary.
>=20
> John
> GM4SLV
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Hello John and Clemens!<br><br>Select "Band =3D Other"<br>In the "Dial" fr=
equency box enter 0.5024<br><br>Yes, it was the first setting, what I trie=
d, but it didn=B4t work. I am sure, that something other was wrong in my=
 PC, becouse I am just testing this setting and all is OK. Thanks for your=
s&nbsp; support in this problem! You made me sure, my first setting was OK=
. I am glad, WSPR is doing well now. <br><br>Thanks and 73!<br><br>Lubos,=
 OK2BVG, JN88KS<br><br>******************************<br><br>&gt; Date: Su=
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<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Lubos OK2BVG wrote:<br>&gt; &gt; Hello Clemens! My WSPR=
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ck", how to set 0.502500?<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Lubos,<br>&gt; <br=
>&gt; It is easy!<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Select "Band =3D Other"<br>&gt; In the=
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h version 1.12<br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; You might need to "double click"=
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> I can't believe why you guys get so steamed up about Mal's comments. 
> Surely you know Mal is a troll (internet term - look it up...).
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Hi Steve,

    nice to read you after some time ! And you made me really laugh with
your message, indeed factual and up to the point !   Thanks for that  !

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a more fundamental question.
 at the bottom of the WSPR screen a red box has Rx Noise then a -dB number. What order of dBs do you normally see in here.

regards
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Sep 23, 2009 11:57:43 PM, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org wrote:

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Dear Graham, LF Group,

The SNR you see with Spectrum Lab will depend also on the relation between 
the spectrogram bandwidth (depending mostly on the resolution of the Fast 
Fourier Transform process) and the spectrum of the signal being monitored. 
Usually, the signal has a larger bandwidth than the FFT "bin", so varying 
amounts of signal appear in different bins. So the SNR measured from the 
spectrum graph is only useful as a relative measure between signals of the 
same type, without further analysis to total up the signal power in 
different bins.

To get the SNR for a particular mode from the WSPR SNR data for 2500Hz BW, 
you need to take the different bandwidths into account:

mode SNR(dB) = WSPR SNR - 10log(mode bandwidth / 2500Hz)

So if WSPR was giving SNR of -10dB, the SNR for PSK31 with 62Hz bandwidth 
would be +6.1dB.

What SNR is actually needed for successful copy depends on the type of 
modulation, the effectiveness of error correction, how good the demodulator 
is, what the nature of the noise is, etc. I suppose for most modes it is 
between about 0 and +several dB

Cheers, Jim moritz
73 de M0BMU




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* Roman RW3ADB <rw3adb@rambler.ru> [Sat, 12 Sep 2009 03:35:43 +0400]:
> Hi Andy, LF.
> Started my grabber on 502.4 dial, WSPR prog and two window into 
grabber
> up to morning here.

Changed to 502.35 dial


> Roman
>
>
> * Andy Talbot <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com> [Fri, 11 Sep 2009 20:50:28
> +0100]:
> > The G4JNT  Beacon on 503.700kHz is back on.   Every 15 minutes at 
the
> > t+4
> > minute epoch.
> >
> > I'll have to think how to include a WSPR waveform as well as the
> > original
> > signal type.   It will almost certainly  be too much for a single
> 16F628
> > PIC
> > to be able to include both.   Can probably do it if I remove the 
PSK31
> > component, but there have been several reports / decodes of that, so
> it
> > ought to remain.
> >
> > Easiest solution may be to use two PIC / DDS drivers, one handiing
> each
> > signal type and work out an arbitration scheme for when they both 
want
> > to Tx
> > at the same time.
> >
> >
> > Andy
> > www.g4jnt.com
> >
> > this email has been scanned for political correctness by the nanny
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>
>
>
>



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Hello Gus, LF!
This is my first experiment with WSPR.=20
73!

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS


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Jim the HF70W LF station is stopped, Problems with the  transmitter (MOSFE=
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73 de F4DTL  Nicolas
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Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 19/09/2009 22:42:21 Paris, Madrid (heure d'=E9t=
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james.moritz@btopenworld.com a =E9crit :

Dear  Marcin, LF Group,

M0BMU is on around 137.7kHz this evening - is HF70W  going to be QRV=20
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QRN level is high here...

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Your TX is Q5 here in JO01MI, talking and tones.
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G'day Alberto,

Nice to hear from you again too.

As you may know, we here in VK have been granted access to 136kHz this year, 
albeit by way of a sort of NOV.    Almost all of the active VK LF stations 
are using your excellent QRSS viewer ARGO.   So, once again, thank you for 
providing this.

LF reception highlights for me using ARGO have been the signals from ZL 
(ZL3JE) on 137.900kHz, various intra-VK transmissions, daytime reception of 
a ZL NDB carrier using 120s mode on 214kHz (distance 2000km) and, recently, 
reception of Mori's (JH1GVY) QRSS120 beacon on 137777.4Hz from JA (8000km) 
from his balloon antenna.    Despite the usual background noise from the 
jaded "pooh-poohers" and "dunbefores" I derive a lot of enjoyment out of 
these activities.

The enjoyment derived from these would not be possible without your 
software.

Along with your other software you have made a positive contribution to our 
hobby and (I apologise for using an 'F' word) raised the level of FUN for a 
lot of operators.

Sorry to embarass you with this paean, but to not acknowledge such 
contributions would be small-minded in the extreme.

Thanks.

73 Steve 



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Hello John and Lf
Is f8boj Claude in test
Many thanks.....
F8boj Claude
----- Original Message ----- 
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> At 1600z.
> 
> F5VLF
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Dear Jim and group,

this evening i run WSPR beacon with abt 10 dB more power.

73 de Gus SM6BHZ
www.sm6bhz.com


----- Original Message ----- 
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> Dear LF Group,
>
> The M0BMU WSPR beacon is running again tonight 0n 503.975kHz (502.4k "dial 
> frequency"). Any reports are very welcome. Also a very strong signal from 
> SM6BHZ tonight.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
> 





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It was an excellent signal Claude, I think I could have copied CW about 449.
Thanks for the first QSO.

73
Dave

2009/9/13 Claude Berthebaud <f8boj@club-internet.fr>

> Hello Dave and lf Group Trong signal Dave G3YXM i received your audio
> many thanks for qso
> Claude F8BOJ JN16WA...
> best regards




-- 
G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK

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It was an excellent signal Claude, I think I could have copied CW about 44=
9.<br>Thanks for the first QSO.<br><br>73<br>Dave <br><br><div class=3D"gm=
ail_quote">2009/9/13 Claude Berthebaud <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:f8boj@club-internet.fr">f8boj@club-internet.fr</a>&gt;</span><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204,=
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 lf Group Trong signal Dave G3YXM i received your audio<br>
many thanks for qso<br>
Claude F8BOJ JN16WA...<br>
best regards</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>G3YXM IO92=
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Dear Marcin, LF Group,

M0BMU is on around 137.7kHz this evening - is HF70W going to be QRV tonight?

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Hi Mal,
Copied several of your CQs on 500 yesterday, cracking signal down here=
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Chris, G4AYT, JO01MI.

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Hi LF,
Capture 505khz
henny cpm
73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi LF,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Capture 505khz</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>73s</FONT></DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het volgende 
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Hello LF,

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Not quite Dennis. A WSPR transmission period is 114 secs, starting on 
each even minute and stopping at 54 seconds after the second minute. 
These periods are fairly accurately timed. A station transmitting will 
have set his desired transmit duty cycle, from 10% to 100%. So you will 
occasionally hear continuous transmissions except for a gap of 6 
seconds before each even minute. More usually it will be more like a 
25% duty cycle with transmissions every 4 or 5 cycles. In your case you 
heard a station with a 50% duty cycle, transmitting one period and 
listening the next.

Just got bored and turned the WSPR monitor off, solid copy of SM6BHZ 
with the occasional one from G7NKS. It seems nobody else is on tonight.

73 Dave G3YMC

On 14 Sep 2009 at 21:54, Dennis wrote:

> 
> > >>>I have learnt, WSPR sounds like a slightly rough CW and is
> > >>>transmitted
> > in 
> > >>>4min-blocks. <<<<<
> > 
> > Dennis , That may  not be wspr , wspr  tx time is  120 seconds locked
> > to the exact time , with the  start time on the  00-00 by sound its
> > like a very  slow narrow shift psk signal .....but it is only one 
> > carrier  changing frequency  with  no breaks in the 120 second
> > transmission
> 
> Okay better to say: One cycle seemed to be 4min, divided into abt.
> 115sec TX and 125sec no TX, maybe RX? The beginning of the received
> transmissions were always well within half a second around even minute +
> zero seconds which to me seems to be the strongest hint that is really
> was some wspr what I was hearing. (DCF77-clock beside the speaker)
> 
> Since yesterday I'm looking for a notebook - to run wspr :)
> 
> vy73
> Dennis
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Very nice signal here Dave.
 
 
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HI Dave and Nicolas...
Many thanks for the super pics report..
Bon dimanche =E0 Nicolas good sunday Dave..
and thank you very match for the contact.
Claude F8boj      jn16wa
  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  It was an excellent signal Claude, I think I could have copied CW ab=
out 449.
  Thanks for the first QSO.

  73
  Dave=20


  2009/9/13 Claude Berthebaud <f8boj@club-internet.fr>

    Hello Dave and lf Group Trong signal Dave G3YXM i received your au=
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    Claude F8BOJ JN16WA...
    best regards



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The same applies here M0BMU does not represent LF/MF UK activity. It appears 
this was a false start and generated unnecessary debate.
G3KEV

----- Original Message ----- 
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Jim, Alan,

     Fritz does NOT represent all of the US 500kHz activity and his
band plan is not being followed here by non-XSH stations so I would
take all this with a large grain of salt.  Keep in mind that in
addition to WD2XSH there is WE2XPQ, WD2XFX, and WE2XTT, and a half
dozen WE2XGR stations as well as other pending applications.

-- 
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
                WE2XEB/2
                WE2XGR/1




On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Alan Melia <alan.melia@btinternet.com> 
wrote:
> Hi Jim. whist it involves a change in "usage" from our end it would not 
> seem
> unreasonable to ensure that the US stations have a chance of hearing us
> without nearby swamping. I think this is an interesting development 
> becasuse
> it now seems that Frtiz is extending the experiment to intercontinental
> tests/qsos.......an activity he discouraged earlier....due to the terms of
> the original application and grant I believe. I have to admit my opinions
> carry very little weight as a "non-active operator" :-)) But maybe it will
> stimulate others with differing opinions to voice them to you.
>
> Best wishes
> Alan G3NYK
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "James Moritz" <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 2:14 PM
> Subject: LF: Re: US 500-kHz band plan
>
>
>> Dear LF Group,
>>
>> I still haven't replied to Fritz Raab, W1FR, regarding the WD2XSH US band
>> plan which he is apparently coordinating - you may remember I posted the
> US
>> proposals, which he sent me, a couple of weeks ago, but have not received
>> any comments from other UK/Eu stations. I think I should reply with
>> something, so now is your chance... The proposal relates to the US
>> allocation extending to 495 - 515kHz, and how that would fit in with
> current
>> UK and Eu beacon operations. The content of the e-mail is below. The 
>> issue
>> is that they would like to make a 501.0 - 501.2kHz WSPR sub-band, to fit
> in
>> with the various other proposals. Various other types of beacon modes are
>> allocated frequencies outside the UK/EI/ON 501 - 504kHz range, while
> 501.2 -
>> 504kHz is allocated to "general comms". Retaining frequencies just below
>> 504kHz would divide their "general comms" band in two
>>
>> I don't think there is anything preventing us from doing this, it is just
>> the inconvenience of turning the current band "upside-down". Let me know
>> what you think!
>>
>> Cheers, Jim Moritz
>> 73 de M0BMU
>>
>> >>>From W1FR:
>>
>> Greetings:
>>
>> Thanks for the comments on the band plan, passed
>> along to me by W1XP.
>>
>> About a month ago, a modification to the WD2XSH
>> license was approved that adds stations and gives us
>> access to 495 - 510 kHz. Perhaps half of the 42 stations
>> will eventually get on the air. Because of NDBs, some
>> stations are limited to parts of this band and we will
>> have two calling frequencies and two beacon bands.
>>
>> A draft of our new band plan follows. Of particular
>> interest is WSPR. As I see it, our options are:
>>
>> (a) 501.0-501.2: Conveniently on one side of our comms
>> band. Will not overload WSPR receivers near 504 kHz.
>> Apparently in EU CW-beacon band.
>>
>> (b) 503.8-504.0: Apparently same as what you guys are
>> using. Cuts our comms band in the middle. Nearby
>> stations may overload US receivers trying to hear EUs.
>>
>> (c) 503.9-504.1: Same problems as above with cutting
>> comms band in two and overloading. Conveniently
>> straddles both G/ON/EI and Canadian bands.
>>
>> Any further thoughts you may have will be
>> appreciated.
>>
>>
>> 73, Fritz, W1FR
>>
>> Frederick H. (Fritz) Raab, Ph.D.
>> GREEN MOUNTAIN RADIO RESEARCH COMPANY
>> 77 Vermont Avenue, Fort Ethan Allen
>> Colchester, Vermont 05446 USA
>> Tel./Fax.: +1 (802) 655-9670 Home: +1 (802) 862-0997
>> E-mail: f.raab@ieee.org
>>
>> BASIC BAND PLAN for WD2XSH
>>
>> f, kHz USE
>>
>> 495.0 - 495.1 QRSS, 1-Hz spacing, 40 stations
>> 495.1 - 495.6 CW/PSK beacons midwest, 100-Hz spacing, 10 stations
>> 495.6 - 499.0 Comms
>> 497.5 Calling frequency
>> 499.0 - 501.0 Reserved for heritage stations and special events
>> 501.0 - 501.2 WSPR
>> 501.2 - 505.0 Comms
>> 505.0 - 505.2 DX window
>> 505.2 - 508.5 Comms
>> 507.5 Calling frequency
>> 508.5 - 510.0 CW/PSK beacons east, south, west, Pacific, 50-Hz spacing,
> 30
>> stations
>> 510.0 - 511.0 WE2XGR beacons
>> 511.0 - 515.0 WE2XGR SSB and wideband modes
>>
>>
>> OTHER IN-BAND SIGNALS
>>
>> 503.976 NEED LSB
>> 505.0 NEED carrier
>> 506.024 NEED USB
>>
>> 508.976 OF/FA LSB
>> 510.0 OF/FA carrier
>> 511.024 OF/FA USB
>>
>>
>
>
>



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Dear Gus, LF Group,
this evening i have a strong qrm on 500 khz so i've already switched off 
my rx gear.
you will find  (attached)  a part  of a wspr receiving window  where 
this qrm is  (on average) stronger than Gus signal
and  partially overlapping it but still  i've got a positive decode of  
SM6BHZ  at 2112 UTC ( it is sent to wspr database)
090908 2112  23  -7  0.6   0.503955  SM6BHZ JO57 40     

                                                 73 de peter, sq7mpj
qth: Lodz  /jo91rs/

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Hi John (and others),

Thanks again for listening out for me on 500kHz WSPR. The only reports
overnight were from G3XVL in Ipswich, a path that seems to be very reliable
from here even with my tiny QRP set-up.

Although I will run the beacon again overnight tonight, it looks like I need
to improve my antenna, ground and TX power to get more range. These are all
things I shall address when I get back from holiday. The TX transverter will
easily convert to a full RX/TX transverter, so with a bit more power I can
have a go at some CW QSOs as well.

I've been a late starter with my 500kHz NoV, but I can't tell you how much
fun this is now. The breakthrough was realising that although big antennas,
lots of power and large low loss ATUs are "a good thing" they are not a *
necessity* to get results, at least with WSPR.

Thanks again for the encouragement given here by everyone.

73s
Roger G3XBM
http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/




2009/9/15 John P-G <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk>

> Roger Lapthorn wrote:
>
>>  Overnight tonight I shall be running the WSPR beacon again in the hope
>> that
>> a few more people may spot my tiny signal.
>>
>
> Roger, LF,
>
> Still no copy here, but it's early days!
>
> I've moved the MF WSPR receiver to 160m if you fancy a daytime test on that
> band, as a comparison?
>
> Dial = 1.8366MHz
>
> Will leave it running and reporting spots while I'm at work.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> John
> GM4SLV
>
>
>


-- 
-------------------------------------------------------------
http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/
http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
G3XBM    GQRP 1678      ISWL G11088

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Hi John (and others),<br><br>Thanks again for listening out for me on 500k=
Hz WSPR. The only reports overnight were from G3XVL in Ipswich, a path tha=
t seems to be very reliable from here even with my tiny QRP set-up. <br><b=
r>
Although I will run the beacon again overnight tonight, it looks like I ne=
ed to improve my antenna, ground and TX power to get more range. These are=
 all things I shall address when I get back from holiday. The TX transvert=
er will easily convert to a full RX/TX transverter, so with a bit more pow=
er I can have a go at some CW QSOs as well.<br>
<br>I&#39;ve been a late starter with my 500kHz NoV, but I can&#39;t tell=
 you how much fun this is now. The breakthrough was realising that althoug=
h big antennas, lots of power and large low loss ATUs are &quot;a good thi=
ng&quot; they are not a <i>necessity</i> to get results, at least with WSP=
R. <br>
<br>Thanks again for the encouragement given here by everyone.<br><br>73s<=
br>Roger G3XBM<br><a href=3D"http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/">http://g3xbm-=
qrp.blogspot.com/</a> <br><br><br><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/=
9/15 John P-G <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gm4slv@sighthound.de=
mon.co.uk">gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk</a>&gt;</span><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204,=
 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div class=3D"i=
m">Roger Lapthorn wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204,=
 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
=A0Overnight tonight I shall be running the WSPR beacon again in the hope=
 that<br>
a few more people may spot my tiny signal.<br>
</blockquote>
<br></div>
Roger, LF,<br>
<br>
Still no copy here, but it&#39;s early days!<br>
<br>
I&#39;ve moved the MF WSPR receiver to 160m if you fancy a daytime test on=
 that band, as a comparison?<br>
<br>
Dial =3D 1.8366MHz<br>
<br>
Will leave it running and reporting spots while I&#39;m at work.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
<br>
John<br>
GM4SLV<br>
<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>----------------------=
---------------------------------------<br><a href=3D"http://g3xbm-qrp.blo=
gspot.com/">http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.g3=
xbm.co.uk">http://www.g3xbm.co.uk</a><br>
G3XBM =A0 =A0GQRP 1678 =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL G11088<br>

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Roman ,
My grabber is ON ,
antenna at QTF 60=C2=B0 for 2 hours ,
after i swich in USA direction !
73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

Roman RW3ADB a =C3=A9crit :
> Hi Jean-Pierre & LF agn!
> Yep, condx are very good!
> I was surprised last night!
> I'm put the screenshots from all night into QRSS-90 mode and half of=20
> night in QRSS-120 onto my report 136-page:
> http://qrss.nm.ru/136.html
>
> 73!
> Roman
>
> * "\"Jean-Pierre M=C3=A9r=C3=A9 (F1AFJ)\"" <jpm.f1afj@online.fr> [Sun,=
 06 Sep=20
> 2009 19:42:47 +0200]:
>> Hi  Roman ,
>> Tnx , good conditions !
>> 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj
>>
>> Roman RW3ADB a =C3=A9crit :
>> > Hello Jean-Pierre & LF!
>> > It was an UA4WPF beacon.He was visible very good during the last=20
> night
>> > into my grabber in Moscow.
>> > http://rw3adb.narod.ru/2009/5sep2009_UA4WPF/137.07W_90_00009.jpg
>> > http://rw3adb.narod.ru/2009/5sep2009_UA4WPF/137.07W_120_00002.jpg
>> > Was traced onto your grabber and DF6NM too.
>> >
>> > * "\"Jean-Pierre M=C3=A9r=C3=A9 (F1AFJ)\"" <jpm.f1afj@online.fr> [Sun=
, 06 Sep
>> > 2009 13:59:27 +0200]:
>> >> Ok Andrey , Tnx for info
>> >>
>> >> 73 Jean-Pierre
>> >>
>> >> Andrey rn3agc a =C3=A9crit :
>> >> > Hi Jean-Pierre,
>> >> > It, probably, was beacon UA4WPF.
>> >> >
>> >> > 73
>> >> > Andrey
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >> Hello LF ,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> My antenna was in directection of the USA , I raised of the=20
> traces
>> > on
>> >> >> 137777. 2 , I suppose that it is ACG in beaconning !
>> >> >>
>> >> >> 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Roman RW3ADB.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
>
>
> --=20
> Roman RW3ADB.
>
>
>

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* Roman RW3ADB <rw3adb@rambler.ru> [Sun, 20 Sep 2009 01:17:50 +0400]:
> * Lubos OK2BVG <bvgbob@hotmail.com> [Sat, 19 Sep 2009 22:55:28 +0200]:
> >
> > Hello Anatolij, LF!
> > I just see your signal QRSS60.
> >
> > Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS
>
> Actually visible onto RA9CUA grabber:
> http://ra9cua.nm.ru/

Onto RA3YO grabber visible also too:
http://ra3yo.narod.ru/graber.html

> unstable S - UA9CS signal.
>
>  Roman
>
> PS- My grabber on 500 today.
>
>
>
> >
> > _________________________________________________________________
> > P=C5=99et=C3=A1hn=C4=9Bte si fotografie p=C5=99=C3=ADmo do chatu v Mes=
senger. Jak se do d=C4=9Bl=C3=A1.
> > http://download.live.com/messenger
> >
> > * "090919_WPF.JPG"
>
>
>



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Hello Clemens and LF,

yes it seams like it is good conds this evening.

thank's report and info !

73 de Gus SM6BHZ
www.sm6bhz.com


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> Hi Gus,
>
> very good condx tonight.
>       2009-09-15 19:42   SM6BHZ   0.503925   +13   0   JO57wq   1   DL4RAJ 
> JN68kj   1035 176
>       2009-09-15 19:40   SM6BHZ   0.503925   +13   0   JO57wq   1   DL4RAJ 
> JN68kj   1035 176
>       2009-09-15 19:38   SM6BHZ   0.503925   +13   0   JO57wq   1   DL4RAJ 
> JN68kj   1035 176
>       2009-09-15 19:36   SM6BHZ   0.503925   +12   0   JO57wq   1   DL4RAJ 
> JN68kj   1035 176
>
>
> 73
> Clemens
> DL4RAJ
> 





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Dear Jim, Roger, LF Group,

The M0BMU WOLF beacon is now running on 503.500kHz - I don't know what 
frequency G7NKS plans to be on , but would suggest about 100Hz spacing. If 
you are at reasonably close distance, and set up on the right receive 
frequency, you should be seeing a trace about 20Hz wide in the centre of the 
WOLF waterfall. However, for more distant stations, you can expect 
successful decodes even when there is no visible trace. It should be 
interesting to see how WOLF fares when trying to receive a weaker signal 
close to a stronger one.

Any reports will be very welcome.

Cheers
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From: "James Cowburn" <james.cowburn@virgin.net>
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> Dear All
>
>
>
> G7NKS   ("No Known Signal! Hi hi) will be also txing on Wolf tonight.  I
> will send G7NKS IO92UB 10mw.   I am still v QRPppp but we'll see how I get
> on.



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Dear LF group,
The present discussion  about  uk/us 500 kHz bandplan  has triggered  a 
question which i  was going to  put here, on this reflector ,
for some time.  In Poland, we still lack this MF band allocation to 
radioamateurs.  There is a small group of hams interested  in  having an 
access to this band..
Some time ago i was asked  by one of our  PZK ( Polish Radioamateur 
Union)  officials to prepare a  sort of a  preliminary note about this 
issue
I plan to write such a  note ( along with Marcin, sq2bxi and others)
Athough this lf_reflector is uk based we all know that it has a 
world-wide character including stations from G,W,F,DL,S,OK,ON,EI,PA,I 
,OE,HB,VE
( i am sorry if  any other country prefix has been ommited) . Therefore 
, my ask is the following:
please , write  here  , on this reflector,   the 500 khz band  
allocation in particular countries  i.e.  band limits as well as   EIRP 
power,special permits. etc...
Obviously,  with such an information provided  the   "power" of  such a 
note will be greatly increased.

                                                                                               
73 de Piotr, sq7mpj
qth: Lodz /jo91rs/


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John and LF,

it could be somone who just have install the program and forget to put up 
his signal and locator ! In other word , the factory setup is still in the 
program.

73 de Gus

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>
> Jay,
>
> I know K1JT is active on 500kHz RX, but I think Andy had a fair point 
> about other people not setting their WSPR data correctly, judging from the 
> spot below:-
>
> 2009-09-20 18:16 SM6BHZ 0.503926 +12 0 JO57wq 2 K1JT FN20
>
>
> With the best will in the world I don't think K1JT is receiving Gus at 
> +12dB on 500kHz, at 18:00UTC when most of the path is in daylight :-)
>
> John
> GM4SLV
>
>
> jrusgrove@comcast.net wrote:
>> Andy
>>
>> K1JT, AA1A, W1XP, W1VD and W1TAG have been watching for EU WSPR. All 
>> display correct station information.
>>
>> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
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I saw your signal in the sunrise time in OK.

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I have some copy of SM6BHZ in the past half hour:
0016 -29  0.9   0.503951   0  SM6BHZ JO57 30
0026 -28  1.0   0.503951   0  SM6BHZ JO57 30
0034 -27  1.0   0.503951   0  SM6BHZ JO57 30
0040 -26  1.2   0.503951   0  SM6BHZ JO57 30

Will let it run overnight and see if any other calls show up.

John Andrews, W1TAG/1
Raymond, Maine FN42ch


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Dear Dave, LF Group,

The settings here are all the same as the last few nights, except that the 
antenna is a bit higher up! The other two (3 now) stations are consistently 
decoding here.

Thanks for doing the test - this does seem to be a problem relating to 
particular PC hardware and perhaps operating systems and drivers too.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Sergeant" <dave@davesergeant.com>
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Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 9:20 PM
Subject: LF: Re: WSPR beacon



> OK, it looks as if the sound card clock synch error is the problem. As
> suggested I have been trying recording for the first minute of each
> period then stopping - by the simple expedient of switching the K2 to a
> different band. Result, solid copy.....
> 



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Hi John

Let me know if you rx the new and improved G7NKS!

With best regards
 
 
Jim
 
 
Dr. James Cowburn
E james.cowburn@virgin.net
 


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of John P-G
Sent: 11 September 2009 20:44
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: G7NKS on WSPR with new ANT system

James Cowburn wrote:
> Dear LF
> 
>  
> 
> Just set up new Ant system, hopefully a lot less lossy so I should not be
as
> QRPppp.  Operating on WSPR 502.4

I'm setup to receive on 502.4 WSPR for now but am tempted to QSY to 
508.5 WOLF for WE2XGR/5..perhaps later at say 2200UTC

Too many things to do at the same time - 1 RX locked to the 5MHz 
beacons, one on 5MHz WSPR and the 3rd on MF (WSPR/WOLF etc) ....!

Cheers,

John
GM4SLV



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Correction of the call sign in the subject:M0BMU

73
Clemens
DL4RAJ
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Clemens Paul
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
  Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 11:40 PM
  Subject: LF: 500kHz wspr beacon M0MBU


  Hi Jim,

        2009-09-18 21:30   M0BMU   0.503840   +16   0   IO91vr   2   DL4RAJ   JN68kj   1003 
107
         2009-09-18 21:26   M0BMU   0.503844   +14   -1   IO91vr   2   DL4RAJ   JN68kj   1003 
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         2009-09-18 21:12   M0BMU   0.503840   +15   0   IO91vr   2   DL4RAJ   JN68kj   1003 
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         2009-09-18 20:52   M0BMU   0.503840   +15   0   IO91vr   2   DL4RAJ   JN68kj   1003 
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         2009-09-18 20:46   M0BMU   0.503840   +15   0   IO91vr   2   DL4RAJ   JN68kj   1003 
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  cl now
  73
  Clemens
  DL4RAJ


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Correction of the call sign in the=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73<BR>Clemens<BR>DL4RAJ</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, September 18,=
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi Jim,</FONT></DIV>
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* James Moritz <james.moritz@btopenworld.com> [Sun, 6 Sep 2009 21:11:44 
+0100]:
> ...I should have said that it is on 503.975kHz, 502.4k "dial 
frequency"

I copy you with QSB, I think.
How is the other station WSPR is near 503.950?
http://rw3adb.narod.ru/2009/7sep2009_503.5kHz/503.5W_3_00011.jpg
http://rw3adb.narod.ru/2009/7sep2009_503.5kHz/503.5W_3_00012.jpg
http://rw3adb.narod.ru/2009/7sep2009_503.5kHz/503.5_090907003036.jpg

Roman

> ----- Original Message -----
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> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 9:05 PM
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>
>
> > Dear LF Group,
> >
> > The M0BMU WSPR beacon is running again - I have jacked up the 
antenna
> to
> > increase the ERP a bit. G4WGT and G7NKS are also active - any 
reports
> > would be very welcome.
> >
> > Cheers, Jim Moritz
> > 73 de M0BMU
> >
>
>




--
Roman RW3ADB.


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At 09:57 PM 9/10/2009, W1TAG wrote:
>J.B.,
>
>For work at 500 kHz, I'd be tempted to go no longer than 16 frames. 
>I'm beginning to think that the fast fades and poorer phase 
>stability hurt the build-up of copy. While you may get your first 
>clear copy on the 31st line, I'll bet that you would have gotten it 
>quicker by flushing things out earlier.
>
>That said, 8 lines appears to be too short for any reasonable copy 
>of M0BMU here. I used 12 earlier in the week with decent results, 
>and have gone back to it.

WOLF was originally set up as a batch mode but the GUI adaptation 
made it convenient to run it continuously.  However, some of the 
batch mode philosophy still comes into play because the "integration 
time" builds up gradually.  It starts with one frame, then builds up 
to a resultant over n frames, then dumps everything and starts all 
over again at one frame, etc.  That isn't particularly compatible 
with continuous operation.  It would probably be better to do it like 
we used to in the COHERENT/AFRICAM BPSK software, i.e. to keep a 
"running" average.  COHERENT/AFRICA had a parameter called GRAB, 
which specified the number (n) of consecutive frames to be averaged 
together.  On startup, the algorithm worked just like WOLF, it built 
up gradually, using first one frame, then two, etc, until n frames 
were in the average.  Thereafter it continued to use only the *last* 
n frames.  It was done by keeping a set of accumulators and a large 
historical database of past samples.  Each time a new frame was 
received, its values were added into the accumulators and 
simultaneously the oldest values (from n samples back) were 
subtracted off.  That way we had a sliding window n frames wide, 
moving continuously forward through time.  One advantage was that we 
were working with much shorter frames (i.e. 16 or 32 bits vs 960 bits 
for WOLF blocks), so the amount of memory and computation required 
was considerably less.  Obviously we cannot afford to be 
compute-bound at the end of each frame for more than the time it 
takes to receive the next frame.  On the other hand, we have much 
faster processors these days and memory isn't an 
issue.  COHERENT/AFRICA could integrate in two ways: by sample or by 
decoded bit.  By sample gives better results but is impractical for 
long GRABs unless the timing is locked to GPS at both ends: once you 
accumulate half a Hz of frequency offset adding in more samples 
actually hurts more than it helps because destructive interference 
sets in.  Integrating after bit decoding allowed us to run for much 
longer times because it still pays off to do it until the offset 
reaches half a bit-time (50 msec vs 62.5 usec).  WOLF also does a 
frequency search at each update which multiplies the amount of 
compute time whereas COHERENT/AFRICA assumed the frequency was a 
known parameter.  We did eventually incorporate a tracking filter 
which was an attempt to follow a slowly-changing frequency, but that 
never proved to be very helpful.  The optimum value of n can be 
expected to vary over time depending on current propagation 
conditions.  Perhaps some kind of adaptive filter to adjust the value 
of n continuously to give the best decode of WOLF's 480-bit PRN sync channel?

Bill VE2IQ



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Dear Mal, LF Group,

Please check your keyboard - the shift key seems to be stuck!

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU


> THIS OBSERVATION IS INCORRECT. etc. etc. etc....


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This is beats 20m ssb dx anyday for "wow" factor!



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-----Original Message-----
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James, LF,

Another successful decode this morning, the only one from you, but at 
least you made it once!

090911 0410   4 -27  1.1   0.503953  G7NKS IO92 10

Cheers!

John
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Dear Jim, Gus,  LF Group

In night today:
2124   1 -1.3   0.503926  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2130 -30 -1.2   0.503841  0 M0BMU IO91 33
2130   3 -1.2   0.503926  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2134   1 -1.4   0.503926  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2140   2  0.9   0.503926  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2146   3  0.9   0.503926  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
--
Vy 73!
Marcin SQ2BXI



> M0BMU very clear at 503.840 WSPR:
> 
> 193400   4  11  1.5  -896  0  M0BMU IO91 33
> 
> 73 - IK1ODO - JN35sa
> 
> 


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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "James Moritz" <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>
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Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 6:15 PM
Subject: LF: Re: WSPR Signals


> Dear Chris, LF Group,
>
> Thanks for the reports on the 136kHz signals.
>
> G4AYT wrote:
>>>>
> ...I am having difficulty in seeing the point of some of this when there 
> is
> little in the way of exchanged information between stations. There is a
> place for beacons, certainly. What concerns me is that the casual listener
> tuning across the band probably has no idea there's anybody on.
>>>>
>
> On 500k, there are a handful of fairly local stations and a couple of "big
> guns" who I can work routinely in CW. The information I can exchange with
> these stations is quite limited by the licence conditions; information 
> about
> the station and some pleasant personal chatter. With other stations,
> communication is usually quite difficult, and exchange of information is
> usually limited to callsigns and signal reports. These kind of marginal 
> QSOs
> are usually regarded as more "valuable" in amateur circles, although the
> information exchanged may amount to less than 10 alphanumeric characters
> each way. It isn't really the amount of information, but the fact you
> actually managed to transmit it. On the other hand, WSPR allows a similar 
> or
> greater amount of information (callsign, location, power output for
> comparison with received signal level) to be transmitted routinely at 
> signal
> levels where even marginal CW just isn't feasible. The fact it can be

THIS OBSERVATION IS INCORRECT. ALL WSPR SIGNALS ARE OBSERVED AS A TRACE LONG 
BEFORE THEY DECODE THEREFORE  IF QRS3 MODE WAS USED THE INFORMATION WOULD BE 
READABLE. I HAVE NEVER DECODED A WSPR SIGNAL THAT WAS NOT VISIBLE ON THE 
WATERFALL. IT ALSO TAKES 2 MINUTES TO GET ANY INFO IF YOU ARE LUCKY.

> automatically monitored over extended periods, and the information
> immediately shared via a publicly-accessible database adds a whole series 
> of
> other possibilities too.
>
> Since the start of 500kHz, I have received one or two listener reports for
> CW signals from stations not already on this reflector. On the other hand, 
> I
> have received reports from over 80 different stations in about 18 
> countries
> for the WSPR beacon, most not otherwise part of the 500kHz scene. This
THIS INFO IS ALSO INCORRECT
QRSS CW WOULD HAVE BEEN SEEN AND READ LONG BEFORE WSPR WOULD DECODE IN POOR 
OR MARGINAL CONDITIONS
I OFTEN MAKE LONG HAUL DX CONTACTS ON CW AND QRS3 WHEN WSPR IS NOT DECODING.

> includes stations too far away to receive CW, those who do not have good
> receiving conditions, or those who are just not morse operators. So I 
> think
> it encourages far more people than it discourages.
>
> Cheers, Jim moritz
> 73 de M0BMU

PLEASE BE FACTUAL ABOUT WHAT IS GOING ON.
I HAD TWO SOLID QSO'S RECENTLY TO DX LOCATIONS PLUS VARIOUS SWL REPORTS FROM 
OTHERS BEYOND EU
IN THE PAST MY CW HAS BEEN COPIED BY NC1K AND OTHERS AROUND THE EAST COAST 
USA.

G3KEV

>
>


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Hi Nicolas and the LF group=20
Thank you for the image of contol I now test with a little more power=
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 I'll try to go one floor we auuron sl'automne and winter can test a=
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For info this weekend Marcin operant HF70W .. will be active on 137 kH=
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F8boj Claude JN16WA
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  Hello Claude,you should make tries beacon in QRSS60 at night, with=
 your good signal americans listeners should receive you i think.

  Cheers my friends.
  F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP

  RX : Icom IC7400
  Ant: Wellbrook LFL 1010
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oops, one word was missing...

Generally the CW part seems a bit louder than the voice peaks.

73, Markus

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On 17 Sep 2009 at 18:54, John P-G wrote:

> I guess the only benefit one would gain is if there was a strong signal
> within the receiver's SSB passband, but outside the WSPR 200Hz region,
> that was upsetting the receiver's AGC.

Like G4JNT for instance - way over s9 here and totally flattens the 
AGC.

73 Dave G3YMC

http://www.davesergeant.com



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Gus wrote:
> Dear LF,
> 
> this evening i test an SSB Beacon, QRG 508 kHz LSB.
> Reports are welcome.

Nice signal Gus, in Shetland

RS 55

Will send MP3 direct

Cheers,

John
GM4SLV

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Dear Willem

Thanks for the new contact.  Just upgraded from "wet String" to "short
wire".   Proper aerial is next!!

With best regards
 
 
Jim
 
 
Dr. James Cowburn G7NKS
E james.cowburn@virgin.net
 
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1634 -28  4.9   0.503910 -2 G7NKS IO92 10
1646 -30  5.8   0.503914  0 G7NKS IO92 23
1834  -2  5.1   0.503920  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
1838  -7  5.3   0.503920  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
1846   7  5.4   0.503921  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
73s willem pa3ego




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Mal,

>
> I am not from Yorkshire and therefore the Yorkshire accent is non 
> applicable.
>

Sorry - I thought Scarborough was in Yorkshire - I will have to look up 
Google Maps.

Or perhaps you mean you are a blow in (not born there, but moved there..).

>
> We have strayed away from LF/MF time to get back on track What is WSPR 
> doing for AUSTRALIA?
>

I like to learn.  I believe I will have something to learn everyday until I 
die.   At least that is my fervent wish (to learn, not to die...).

I played with WSPR for a couple of months and it taught me a lot about 
propagation.    With normal ham operation you don't get the 24/7 band 
opening watch as you do with WSPR.

WSPR is not for everyone - especially if you are after the awards.    I am a 
self-confessed non-award chaser.

For those who, like myself, are still fascinated by the sheer magic of radio 
even after 40 years, WSPR allows a fascinating (granted non-perfect) view of 
radio propagation.

Here in Australia (I speak for the period when I was using it), it kindled a 
lot of interest and discussion amongst those of us who like talking about 
radio to like-minded individuals.   I can only say it has been a positive 
influence.

These days the newest interest in VK for a lot of us is our newly acquired 
access to the 136kHz.

Despite being old hat for some over there, here it has sparked a rush to the 
soldering irons and delving into raising the bar regarding frequency 
accuracy and stability.

Spare a though for us in VK, just when we have arrived at the 136kHz trough, 
the rest of the world is heading off for the 500kHz feeding station 
(including our leaders in things LF/MF over here, the Kiwis...)

73   Steve Olney - VK2XV

http://www.djirra.com



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Right  .. thanks Andy ... that makes sense ...  looking at  rms power=
 in a bandwidth and not the spot noise power at one frequency (+/- spe=
c bw) ?

why the  100 hz , as the  wspr  window is 200 hz wide , is the  softwa=
re looking +/-  50  from the  decode frequency ?

To make use of the  level in terms of the  path suitability  for say=
 a data transmission ... is there a quick way  of working backwards ,=
 if you
know the  minimum s/n that the  mode will handle, using the  reported=
 wspr  result ?=20

Tnx- G .. =20


From: Andy Talbot=20
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 9:50 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Subject: Re: LF: s/n shown by wspr .... what is it actually showing ?


Its normalised to 2500Hz banbdwidth - approximately an SSB filter's wo=
rth.

So +20dB in 100Hz   =3D   -3dB in 2500Hz.  =20

Andy
www.g4jnt.com


=20
On 23/09/2009, Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:=20
  Just watched Dave's G3YXM  wspr  signal on spec-lab ,=20

  Spec-lab showed the  signal to  be a constant  20 dB over the back=
 ground noise floor  of the  rx=20
  so in my  book that's 20 dB  s/n  =20

  The  wspr  decode is  showing -3 dB s/n ?

  What is it  actually  displaying ?

  G ..=20






--=20
Andy
www.g4jnt.com

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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Right&nbsp; .. thanks Andy ... that=
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Tnx- G .. </FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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  on spec-lab , </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Spec-lab showed the&nbsp; signal to=
&nbsp; be a=20
  constant&nbsp; 20 dB over the back ground noise floor&nbsp; of the&n=
bsp; rx=20
  </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>so in my&nbsp; book that's 20 dB&nb=
sp;=20
  s/n&nbsp;&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>The&nbsp; wspr&nbsp; decode is&nbsp=
; showing -3=20
  dB s/n ?</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>What is it&nbsp; actually&nbsp; dis=
playing=20
  ?</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>G .. </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUO=
TE></DIV><BR><BR   clear=3Dall><BR>-- <BR>Andy<BR><A   href=3D"http://=
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for political correctness by the nanny state=20
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JIM YOU HAVE A MORE SERIOUS PROBLEM
FACTS AND FICTION MIXED UP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
----- Original Message ----- 
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> Dear Mal, LF Group,
>
> Please check your keyboard - the shift key seems to be stuck!
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
>
>> THIS OBSERVATION IS INCORRECT. etc. etc. etc....
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Is this supposed to be Exciting, in my opinion machine generated repeative 
data, with no real time exchange of information.
If this is forward thinking technology watch the band fold, this is not 
Amateur Radio
G3KEV

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> 1454  -9  1.0   0.137000  0 M0BMU IO91 23
> 1500  -9  2.3   0.137000  0 M0BMU IO91 23
> 1508  -9  0.9   0.137000  0 M0BMU IO91 23
> 1514  -9  0.9   0.137000  0 M0BMU IO91 23
> 1522  -9  0.9   0.137000  0 M0BMU IO91 23
> 1526  -8  1.0   0.137000  0 M0BMU IO91 23
> 1532  -9  0.9   0.137000  0 M0BMU IO91 23
> 1536  -9  0.8   0.137000  0 M0BMU IO91 23
> 1544 -10  1.2   0.137000  0 M0BMU IO91 23
> 1550 -10  0.9   0.137000  0 M0BMU IO91 23
>
> 73
>
> Victor
> PA3FNY
>
> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens James Moritz
> Verzonden: zondag 20 september 2009 15:17
> Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Onderwerp: LF: Re: WSPR 137.0k
>
>
> Dear LF Group,
>
> The M0BMU WSPR beacon is now running on 135.5kHz "dial frequency", 
> 137.0kHz
> RF out. Note change of frequency to try to avoid DCF39/HGA22 sidebands,
> which some stations experience problems with. Any reports over the next 
> few
> hours would be very welcome.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
>
>


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Roger Lapthorn wrote:
> It is currently on around 503.890kHz. Just set your RX to 502.4kHz in 
> USB mode with the WSPR software and it will find me if at a readable 
> level.
>
> 73s
> Roger G3XBM
>
> 2009/9/17 Chris <c.ashby435@btinternet.com 
> <mailto:c.ashby435@btinternet.com>>
>
>     Hi Roger,
>     Please remind us which frequency exactly it is on.
>     Thanks and 73,
>     Chris, G4AYT.
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> -------------------------------------------------------------
> http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/
> http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
> G3XBM    GQRP 1678      ISWL G11088
Will leave my Rx on all night, now connected the FT2000 to the welbrook loop
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WSPR report of Gus's signal this evening.

Also looking for G3XBM, but static levels re very high tonight.

2255  -6  0.6   0.503526  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30

73m Dave G3WCB IO91RM n Windsor S.E. England

-


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Jom,

Some more decodes, although the finer points escape me as yet:-

2009-09-08 23:23:12 >WOLF10  -r 8000 -f 800 -t 1.0 -w 0.0000
t:  24 f: 0.624 a:-1.3 dp: 96.4 ci:10 cj: 20 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t:  48 f: 0.621 a:-1.1 dp: 94.7 ci:10 cj: 20 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t:  96 f: 0.619 a:-1.0 dp: 98.6 ci:10 cj: 20 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t: 192 f: 0.625 pm:511.7 jm:920 q:  1.0  1.1 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t: 288 f: 0.625 pm: 3025 jm:920 q:  8.8  8.7 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t: 384 f: 0.625 pm: 5062 jm:920 q: 15.4 15.5 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t: 480 f: 0.625 pm: 5470 jm:920 q: 18.5 18.6 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t: 576 f: 0.625 pm: 7789 jm:920 q: 19.1 19.4 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t: 672 f: 0.625 pm:10270 jm:920 q: 19.0 19.3 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t: 768 f: 0.625 pm:10771 jm:920 q: 18.2 18.6 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t: 864 f: 0.625 pm:14317 jm:920 q: 17.9 18.3 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -

Cheers,

John
GM4SLV
IP90gg


F4DTL@aol.com wrote:
> Hello Jim,strong here
>  
>  
> 2009-09-08 23:15:42 >WOLF10  -r 11073.608 -f 796 -t 10 -d 25 -w  0.0000
> t:  24 f: 1.597 a:-0.2 dp:126.6 ci: 8 cj:166 M0BMU IO91VR  2W -
> t:  48 f: 1.593 a: 0.1 dp:128.9 ci:10 cj:166 M0BMU IO91VR 2W  -
> t:  96 f: 1.600 a:-1.1 dp:127.2 ci:13 cj:166 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
> t:  192 f: 1.602 pm:12592 jm:630 q: -1.8 -1.3 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
> t: 288 f: 1.602  pm:12650 jm:630 q: -1.4 -1.3 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
> t: 384 f: 1.602 pm:12695  jm:630 q: -1.5 -2.1 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
> t: 480 f: 1.602 pm:12718 jm:630 q: -2.2  -4.1 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
> 
> 
> 
> F4DTL  Nicolas JN18FP
> RX : Icom IC7400
> Ant: Miniwhip active  antenna
> 
> _http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/_ (http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/) 
> 


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Thanks Lubos for the capture!
--=20
73 Warren K2ORS
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                WD2XSH/23
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                WE2XGR/1


2009/9/8 Lubos OK2BVG <bvgbob@hotmail.com>:
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> Last night was quaiet and the propagation on 137kHz was very good here.=
 I
> saw "XGJ" three times.
> 73!
>
> Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS
>
> ________________________________
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Peter Cleall wrote:
> a more fundamental question. at the bottom of the WSPR screen a red
> box has Rx Noise then a -dB number. What order of dBs do you normally
> see in here.
> 
> regards peter
> 
> 

Peter,

I believe you are supposed to adjust the sound level (via external means 
or using the Windows mixer) to set that reading to ~0dB for optimum 
decoding. Others may have more info...

John
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Hi Lubos,

Thanks my report from you.

Gary - G4WGT.


2009/9/19 Lubos OK2BVG <bvgbob@hotmail.com>:
> Hello Gus, Gary, LF!
> I am back from my vacation and QRV on 600m:
>
> 1850=A0 -9=A0 0.8=A0=A0 1.503925=A0 0 SM6BHZ JO57 33
> 1858 -23=A0 1.2=A0=A0 1.503911=A0 0 G4WGT IO83 27
>
> Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS
>
>
> ________________________________
> P=F8et=E1hn=ECte si fotografie p=F8=EDmo do chatu v Messenger. Jak se do=
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Hello Clemens!
My WSPR v.1.12 doesn´t work below 1MHz (= dial frq). It is the reason, why I use dial frequency 1.502500. Is there any "trick", how to set 0.502500?

Thanks in advance!

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

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Lubos,
 
>1.503925  
 
you may want to check your indicated 
frequency.
 
73
Clemens
DL4RAJ

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Hello LF!

2240  -5  1.1   
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Lubos, OK2BVG


  
  Přetáhněte si fotografie přímo do chatu v Messenger. Jak se do dělá. Klikni zde! 
  
  


  

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Hello Clemens!<br>My WSPR v.1.12 doesn´t work below 1MHz (= dial frq). It is the reason, why I use dial frequency 1.502500. Is there any "trick", how to set 0.502500?<br><br>Thanks in advance!<br><br>Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS<br><br><hr id="stopSpelling">From: cpaul@gmx.net<br>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<br>Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 11:13:42 +0200<br>Subject: LF: Re: WSPR<br><br>




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<div><font face="Arial">Lubos,</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial">&gt;1.503925&nbsp; </font></div>
<div><font face="Arial"></font>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font face="Arial">you may want to check your indicated 
frequency.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial">73<br>Clemens<br>DL4RAJ</font></div>
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  <a title="bvgbob@hotmail.com" href="mailto:bvgbob@hotmail.com">Lubos OK2BVG</a> 
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  <div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; -x-system-font: none;"><b>To:</b> <a title="rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" href="mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a> 
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  <div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; -x-system-font: none;"><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, September 20, 2009 12:59 
  AM</div>
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  <div><br></div>Hello LF!<br><br>2240&nbsp; -5&nbsp; 1.1&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  1.503925&nbsp; 0 SM6BHZ JO57 33<br>2240 -25&nbsp; 0.4&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  1.503950&nbsp; 0 M0LMH IO93 20<br>2244 -24&nbsp; 0.9&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  1.503911&nbsp; 0 G4WGT IO83 27<br><br>Lubos, OK2BVG<br><br>
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  Přetáhněte si fotografie přímo do chatu v Messenger. Jak se do dělá. <a href="http://download.live.com/messenger">Klikni zde!</a> 
  
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Hello Gus, LF!
I am reading your FB signal in JN88KS:

1846 -19  1.2   1.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
1852 -16  1.3   1.503926  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
1858 -18  1.2   1.503926  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
1902  -7  1.2   1.503926  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30

Lubos, OK2BVG

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Hello Gus, LF!<br>I am reading your FB signal in JN88KS:<br><br>1846 -19&n=
bsp; 1.2&nbsp;&nbsp; 1.503925&nbsp; 0 SM6BHZ JO57 40<br>1852 -16&nbsp; 1.3=
&nbsp;&nbsp; 1.503926&nbsp; 0 SM6BHZ JO57 40<br>1858 -18&nbsp; 1.2&nbsp;&n=
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; 1.503926&nbsp; 0 SM6BHZ JO57 30<br><br>Lubos, OK2BVG<br><br /><hr />P=F8=
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John, if YOU manage to hear me then I really will believe pigs can fly.

73s
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2009/9/13 John P-G <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk>

> Roger Lapthorn wrote:
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>> Good folks, Any WSPR spot reports would fill me with total amazement
>> and delight.
>>
>>
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> I'll be watching from the far north!
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John, if YOU manage to hear me then I really will believe pigs can fly.<br=
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Good folks, Any WSPR spot reports would fill me with total amazement<br>
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<br>
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<br>
I&#39;ll be watching from the far north!<br>
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John<br>
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Just watched Dave's G3YXM  wspr  signal on spec-lab ,=20

Spec-lab showed the  signal to  be a constant  20 dB over the back gro=
und noise floor  of the  rx=20
so in my  book that's 20 dB  s/n  =20

The  wspr  decode is  showing -3 dB s/n ?

What is it  actually  displaying ?

G ..=20


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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Spec-lab showed the&nbsp; signal to&n=
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Hello LF'ers ,

I copy on 137,778 unidentified signal ?
22:00 => 23:00 utc ( see on picture )

73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

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Dear Piotr, LF Group,

In the UK we have access to 501 - 504kHz, with up to 10W ERP.

Individual stations must apply to Ofcom (the UK regulator) for a Notice of 
Variation to their licence - see 
http://www.rsgb.org/spectrumforum/mf/srp501.php

Good luck with your application, hope to see you on 500k -

Cheers, Jim Moritz
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Hello Jim,strong here
 
 
2009-09-08 23:15:42 >WOLF10  -r 11073.608 -f 796 -t 10 -d 25 -w  0.0000
t:  24 f: 1.597 a:-0.2 dp:126.6 ci: 8 cj:166 M0BMU IO91VR  2W -
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t:  96 f: 1.600 a:-1.1 dp:127.2 ci:13 cj:166 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t:  192 f: 1.602 pm:12592 jm:630 q: -1.8 -1.3 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t: 288 f: 1.602  pm:12650 jm:630 q: -1.4 -1.3 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t: 384 f: 1.602 pm:12695  jm:630 q: -1.5 -2.1 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t: 480 f: 1.602 pm:12718 jm:630 q: -2.2  -4.1 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -



F4DTL  Nicolas JN18FP
RX : Icom IC7400
Ant: Miniwhip active  antenna

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All WSPR signals last evening struggling in QRN/QRS whereas they were=
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decode was marginal, and then the same old repetive rubbish.
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Hi  Roman ,
Tnx , good conditions !
73 Jean-Pierre f1afj

Roman RW3ADB a =C3=A9crit :
> Hello Jean-Pierre & LF!
> It was an UA4WPF beacon.He was visible very good during the last night=
=20
> into my grabber in Moscow.
> http://rw3adb.narod.ru/2009/5sep2009_UA4WPF/137.07W_90_00009.jpg
> http://rw3adb.narod.ru/2009/5sep2009_UA4WPF/137.07W_120_00002.jpg
> Was traced onto your grabber and DF6NM too.
>
> * "\"Jean-Pierre M=C3=A9r=C3=A9 (F1AFJ)\"" <jpm.f1afj@online.fr> [Sun,=
 06 Sep=20
> 2009 13:59:27 +0200]:
>> Ok Andrey , Tnx for info
>>
>> 73 Jean-Pierre
>>
>> Andrey rn3agc a =C3=A9crit :
>> > Hi Jean-Pierre,
>> > It, probably, was beacon UA4WPF.
>> >
>> > 73
>> > Andrey
>> >
>> >
>> >> Hello LF ,
>> >>
>> >> My antenna was in directection of the USA , I raised of the traces=
=20
> on
>> >> 137777. 2 , I suppose that it is ACG in beaconning !
>> >>
>> >> 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
>
>
> --=20
> Roman RW3ADB.
>
>
>

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Jim,

Re the  size of error

With the  delta-4 card, the  tx frame could be observed to  be  some  2 or 
more seconds short of the  expected time  window

1 % ~  1.2 seconds , 2 %  ~ 2.4  seconds, assumedly indicating the clock on 
the  card runs fast, but as to the  influence of the system by the 
software, dma, irq etc  Im not  sure, one problem is I expect is the 
soundcards are not  designed to be the  interface for  a accurate  frequency 
meter / generator and as such compromises 'must' exist ...

The only  comparison I can think of is the running of a movie at  shot at 
24 fps  for projection , on a tele cinie system at  25 fps to  sync with the 
uk 50 hz frame rate  , giving a lift in the sound  pitch of + ~ 4 % ? , I 
know that this dose generate  irate phone  calls from musicians pointing out 
that orchestras appear to  be   'sharp' but not many  hi .. so its possible 
a tolerance of  2 %  may be accepted

G .

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>
> Dear Dave,
>
> AC 97
> (http://download.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/sb/ac97_r23.pdf )
> specifies 48kHz as the basic, obligatory sample rate for compliant sound
> cards, so yours should certainly be able to do it - to find more info, you
> could try looking for the audio codec chip on the motherboard - usually a
> very tiny square 48pin thing near the audio connectors, and searching 
> using
> its type number. But I guess what sample rate is actually used will depend
> on software, drivers and so forth - perhaps someone with experience of PC
> sound card programming could advise. Looking at the audio settings in the
> Windows control panel may well tell you what sample rates are possible.
> Also, some software allows you to select different sample rates, for
> instance Spectrum Lab, but not Argo as far as I know.
>
> The errors you are getting in the measured frequency seem to be enormous - 
> 2
> or 3%, which would certainly give rise to problems.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
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>
> It seems that both WOLF and WSPR are
>> designed for current sound cards which have 48,000 and 96,000 clock
>> rates. Mine is obviously from the old stable so has 44,100 etc rates.
>>
>> For information it is the sound card interface built into the
>> motherboard, an ASR Rock K7S41GX dating from 2003 with generic AC'97
>> sound. Zilch more given about its spec in the manual.
>>
>
>
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Hi Marcin, Andrey,

nice signal from HF70W also here in Nuernberg tonight.

Andrey: Donebach 153 kHz seemed perfectly clean from here, so it's probably "Luxembourg" intermodulation onto the DCF39 carrier 
which is causing trouble again.

Best wishes,
Markus (DF6NM)

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Hello Lubos, Marcin,
I saw traces from signals. But here the strongest
QRM from broadcasting station to 21z (153 khz).

73 Andrey


>
> Hello MArcin, LF!
> Thanks for very nice QSO, I am pleased. Your signal was fine - see the picture.
>
> 73!
>
> Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS
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Hello LF,
Capture BOJ
Henny pa3cpm
73s
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At 10:59 AM 9/11/2009, Jay wrote:
>WE2XGR/2 will transmit in WOLF mode tonight from 2230 - 0330Z on 
>508.5 kHz. Local sunset is 2300Z. Reports are always appreciated.

Jay, this is incredible!  I started recording at 2235z - and ran for 
30 minutes before transferring the file to my desktop for 
decoding.  During the entire 30 minute period there was absolutely no 
audible sign of your signal.  I thought it would be futile, but lo - 
perfect copy in short order.  I'll record while you and John are on 
together later, and post the file on my website if anyone wants to 
listen.  The Rx was tuned to 508.6 Khz in CW-narrow mode (500 Hz) so 
both you and John will be present in the passband simultaneously. 
Here's the decode starting 2235z, using -r 8200.390 -f 699.988 -t 0.2 :

WOLF version 0.51
t:  24 f:-0.129 a: 0.6 dp: 90.7 ci:10 cj:142 XUPGQA47HVT413* ?
t:  48 f:-0.132 a: 1.0 dp: 87.4 ci:14 cj:119 /FY6TV8MZMSN72L ?
t:  96 f: 0.160 a: 1.4 dp: 85.3 ci: 8 cj:352 0KTA/L0667ZD3B2 ?
t: 192 f: 0.029 pm:  28 jm: 35               FFVB8PT5*QFO51  ?
t: 288 f: 0.000 pm:  40 jm: 16               U5Q.J*NR2.7BP H ?
t: 384 f: 0.000 pm:  71 jm: 16               ???O/Q*ED???5UN ?
t: 480 f: 0.000 pm:  74 jm: 16               WE2XGR/2 FN31IS -
t: 576 f: 0.000 pm:  90 jm: 16               WE2XGR/2 FN31IS -
t: 672 f: 0.000 pm: 102 jm: 16               WE2XGR/2 FN31IS -
t: 768 f: 0.000 pm: 168 jm: 16               WE2XGR/2 FN31IS -
t: 864 f: 0.000 pm: 216 jm: 16               WE2XGR/2 FN31IS -
t: 960 f: 0.000 pm: 235 jm: 16               WE2XGR/2 FN31IS -
t:1056 f: 0.000 pm: 240 jm: 16               WE2XGR/2 FN31IS -
t:1152 f: 0.000 pm: 344 jm: 16               WE2XGR/2 FN31IS -
t:1248 f: 0.000 pm: 496 jm: 16               WE2XGR/2 FN31IS -

Nice going!
73,
Bill VE2IQ



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Im not sure whether Gus will be on WSPR on MF tonight  as he indicated hes=
 doing some complicated antennae repairs - but in any case Ill run on 502.=
4 WSPR - there will be two instances/callsigns decoding - BY3A is the R75=
 and BY3X is the SDR IQ and a more powerful Dell (both callsigns relate to=
 location, Teda Tianjin -  and not a ham call as Im a SWL here) .

=20

Ive been playing today and may (may) have some processing/buffer issues wi=
th the Dell 610 versus the 630 when multitasking.

=20

=20

No decodes from Jay XGR/3 or John overnight in Alaska but I have some work=
 to do on the antennae and moreover decoupling noise on LF/MF up there whe=
n Im there in Christmas.

=20

I wont be on 137 tonight. I need more gear!

=20

Ill be permanently QRT here in Teda Tianjin China at the end of Oct :-( =
 actually its :-)

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Ive opened a "book" of where we will end up next.=20

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Laurence WE2XPQ  KL1X in BY3A

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Im not sure whether Gus will be on WSPR on MF tonight&nbsp; as he indicate=
d hes doing some complicated antennae repairs - but in any case Ill run on=
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Ive been playing today and may (may) have some processing/buffer issues wi=
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&nbsp;<BR>
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 hi Jim,

have not put your spots on the database as am
seeing 3 signals from you in somerset


1346  -8 -1.6   0.136909  0 M0BMU IO91 23
1346 -24 -1.6   0.137009  0 M0BMU IO91 23
1346 -26 -1.6   0.137042  0 M0BMU IO91 23

1352  -7 -1.7   0.136910  0 M0BMU IO91 23
1352 -23 -1.6   0.137010  0 M0BMU IO91 23
1352 -23 -1.6   0.137042  0 M0BMU IO91 23

1400  -7 -1.0   0.136911  0 M0BMU IO91 23
1400 -22 -0.9   0.137011  0 M0BMU IO91 23
1400 -23 -1.0   0.137043  0 M0BMU IO91 23

I have never listened to WSPR on 135kHz and i have a noise source present in the band.
but do not have problems like this with WSPR on any other frequency.

regards
peter G8AFN


Sep 20, 2009 02:18:42 PM, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org wrote:

===========================================

Dear LF Group,

The M0BMU WSPR beacon is now running on 135.5kHz "dial frequency", 137.0kHz 
RF out. Note change of frequency to try to avoid DCF39/HGA22 sidebands, 
which some stations experience problems with. Any reports over the next few 
hours would be very welcome.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU 




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Thanks Henny and Jean-Pierre for the captures and 'grabber'!
--=20
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
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> Hi , Henny , Lubos , Warren ,
>
> Yes very good copy of "XGJ" last night !! ( see capture )
>
> 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj
>
> henny van elst a =E9crit :
>>
>> Hi Warren,LF
>> capture XGJ
>> Henny pa3cpm
>> best 73s
>>
>



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73 Warren K2ORS
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Congratulations Roger!
Are the same with my condition! =)
7.5m high steel mast and ~20m 1/4 sloper for 80m band from 7.5m to 1.5m 
over the roof of high-scraper 17 floors.
70m cable RG6U to my room and FT897D w/o any presel and LNA.

Looking my reports qrss.nm.ru ->500
I'm copied G/GM stations on 500 some time. QRB ~2600 km's

Roman

* Roger Lapthorn <rogerlapthorn@gmail.com> [Sun, 13 Sep 2009 21:28:58 
+0100]:
> If you could SEE my TX,  "antenna" and ATU you would realise how 
amazed
> I am
> at this report from G3XVL. My antenna is literally 15m of low 
horizontal
> wire with about 2m of it vertical, a central heating ground and an ATU
> on
> the bedroom table made from a ferrite rod and fed with 700mW from a
> 2N3906/2N3904. This proves that 500kHz is possible with a
> *really*minimalist station. I can only imagine what will be possible
> with some
> effort on my part.
>
> Today has been one of the most enjoyable since I got my licence in 
1967.
> Thanks to everyone on this list for encouraging me.
>
> 73s
> Roger G3XBM
>
> 2009/9/13 Chris McCarthy <chris.decibel@googlemail.com>
>
> > Roger,
> > I can beat that your reception report from Ipswich, Suffolk
> >
> >   2009-09-13 20:12   G3XBM   0.503922   -27   1   JO02dg   0.001
> G3XVL
> >  JO02nb   61   112 well done,
> > Chris G3XVL
> >
> >
> >
> > 2009/9/13 Roger Lapthorn <rogerlapthorn@gmail.com>
> >
> > All of 3kms away (whoa DX!!) but I just got my first WSPR report on
> 500kHz:
> >>
> >>    2009-09-13 20:04   G3XBM   0.503908   -6   0   JO02dg   0.001
> G6ALB
> >>  JO02dg   0   0   2009-09-13 20:02   G3XBM   0.503910   -12   -1
> >>  JO02dg   0.001   G6ALB   JO02dg   0   0
> >> At least the signal is getting across the fields at the back of the
> house.
> >> Andrew G6ALB is in the next village. You can see by my report that 
I
> have a
> >> LOT of work to do....
> >>
> >> 73s
> >> Roger G3XBM
> >> --
> >> -------------------------------------------------------------
> >> http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/
> >> http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
> >> G3XBM    GQRP 1678      ISWL G11088
> >>
> >
> >
>
>



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Roman RW3ADB.


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* Roman RW3ADB <rw3adb@rambler.ru> [Mon, 07 Sep 2009 01:23:43 +0400]:
> I rx your signal, Jim!
> http://rw3adb.narod.ru/2009/7sep2009_503.5kHz/MBU.jpg
> Dial freq is incorrect, but the prog is decoded.

corrected dial freq:
http://rw3adb.narod.ru/2009/7sep2009_503.5kHz/MBU1.jpg


> Roman
>
> * James Moritz <james.moritz@btopenworld.com> [Sun, 6 Sep 2009 
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> +0100]:
> > Dear LF Group,
> >
> > The M0BMU WSPR beacon is running again - I have jacked up the 
antenna
> to
> > increase the ERP a bit. G4WGT and G7NKS are also active - any 
reports
> > would
> > be very welcome.
> >
> > Cheers, Jim Moritz
> > 73 de M0BMU
> >
> >
>
>
>
>



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Roman RW3ADB.


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Hello andrey
Many thank for the reporte I have one probleme for the qrss120...now sended 
in qrss60 is very wel with the propagation....
I started transmission too early this evening then to 22h UT is good my 
qrss60 signals are readable now (youthful hi)
Thank you for the contol manqueari I do not return in the evening ..
pleasure
Claude F8boj.
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> Hi Claude,
> Magnificent signal!
> My locator KO85sv.
> Argo in modes 3s and 90s
>
> 73
> Andrey 




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LF, Dave,

John Hey, G3TDZ, has produced a prototype of a new version of the cave rad=
io which is named after him, and looking for recommendations for CAD softw=
are for PCB layout.=20

He doesn't need anything fancy - most packages he has looked at do much mo=
re than he wants and are too complicated.

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s must not be tied to a particular PCB manufacturer.

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UTC Date: 2009 Sep 23
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194600  16 -20 -2.3    23  0  SM6BHZ JO57 33       =20
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Roman

Details from the  web page  :-

Location : IO90IV
Carrier frequency : 503.700 KHz
100W RF Out (peak / carrier)
7m high Tee antenna with 14m top span.
Gain estimate -27dB - based on Rrad / Rload measurements


>>>>ERP 23dBm.<<<<<

73 - Graham

No idea ... but  may  be  right  hihi
uk500khz group page  using google  translate

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>
> Hi Gary, LF!
> TNX!
> Hope to look that signal now.
> How many EIRP?
>
> Roman
>
>
> * Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk> [Tue, 15 Sep 2009 10:22:58 +0100]:
>> Hi Roman, LF,
>>
>> The signal on 503.700 kHz you can see on my grabber is the propagation
>> beacon being run by Andy G4JNT, transmissions are at15 minute
>> intervals at 0004, 0019, 0034 & 0049 minutes of each hour. The beacon
>> now runs 24/7.
>>
>> It has a similar function & features to the beacons running on the
>> 5MHz band (GB3RAL, GB3WES & GB3ORK).
>>
>> For a full description of the beacon on 503.700 kHz please have a look
>> at the UK500KHZ group web site at :-
>>
>>
> http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/multi-function-beacon-by-andy-g4jnt
>>
>> Regards es 73
>>
>> Gary - G4WGT.
>>
>>
>>
>> 2009/9/15 Roman RW3ADB <rw3adb@rambler.ru>:
>> >
>> > Hi Gary, LF!
>> >
>> > Tell me pse, what is a signal I can see some time into G4WGT
> grabber?
>> >
>> > --
>> > Roman RW3ADB.
>> >
>>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Roman RW3ADB.
>
>



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Hello MArcin, LF!
Thanks for very nice QSO, I am pleased. Your signal was fine - see the picture.

73!

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

                      
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Hello MArcin, LF!<br>Thanks for very nice QSO, I am pleased. Your signal was fine - see the picture.<br><br>73!<br><br>Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS<br><br>                      <br /><hr />Předveďte svůj styl pomocí zobrazení obrázků v Messenger. Prohlédněte si je všechny. <a href='http://download.live.com/messenger' target='_new'>Klikni zde!</a></body>
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Gus,

> yes it seams like it is good conds this evening.

Very good, with lots of hits starting at 2330 UTC.

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* Laurence BY3A-KL1X China <hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com> [Fri, 18 Sep 
2009 13:43:19 -0800]:
>
> Good early morning - Who is M on this freq out to my West? As it gets
> daylight a Loran line will appear close to this freq and is just (just
> visible)

UA4WPF I think. W is OOO readable.
777.2 his freq as usual.

>
>
> DCF39 is S7 this mng :-))

wow.
I copy S6 as usual some time up to +10

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The window to Eu is still very small but Gus signal peaked (moreover becam=
e visible) at around 2100z for about 15 mins.

=20

This is the time of the day when the sky is just showing signs of lighteni=
ng up a bit as we go towards dawn. Nothing from Jim but given the paths an=
d the timeline its still way too short given the mutual full darkness path=
. It still isnt.

=20

Gus's move to 925 helped a lot and it was easy to see the WSPR signature=
 using Argo.

=20

On WOLF

=20

snipped from another email

2009-09-10 21:15:29 >WOLF10  -r 8100.257 -f 1000 -t 1 -w 0.0000
t:  24 f:-0.339 etc..................

=20

For calibration of receiver/cards I commend John W1TAG's site - have a tro=
ll around and perhaps read.

=20

http://www.w1tag.com/WOLFSamp.htm

=20

Hes got some great stuff on his site.

=20

WOLF should be a much better "dig into the noise" protocol for paths like=
 mine which require a lot of aggregation and sampling to get a good decode=
. Time will tell. But you have to get your receiver and sound cal down to=
 nearly zero Hz offset for the best improvement. f:-0.339 (Hz) isnt bad -=
=20

=20

Your pc too has to work very hard and having multiple processes running ma=
y be stressing it to the point where buffers are being buffeted! Im runnin=
g WSPR, WOLF, ARGO, ARGO upload and Internet exp all at the same time and=
 Im not sure whether this is the best for large processing sessions. I ten=
d to look at the clock timing and if there is discrepancies between actual=
 and PC clock time over a short baseline Im probably doing too much (my si=
mple view)

=20

If your getting f: >1Hz decodes you need to do something - In fact if your=
 getting freq offsets  f: >0.5 +- Hz Id still do something to get your cal=
 better. When we come to longer paths and weaker more transitory openings=
 it will really pay, and not just for WOLF either.

=20

WOLF should (should) knock socks off WSPR at very very low signal levels=
 (>-30) but time will tell. It also requires a very stable receiver/phase=
 to work...a receiver that wanders just a few millihertz over the sampling=
 period will reduce the quality of the decode..  It may appear to be a lot=
 of work and over the short paths WSPR/CW et al is much more forgiving..

=20

With thanks for the signals - off to work time.

=20

Laurence KL 1X G4 DMA in Tianjin China.

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&nbsp;<BR>
The window to Eu is still very small but Gus signal peaked (moreover becam=
e visible) at around 2100z for about 15 mins.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
This is the time of the day when the sky is just showing signs of lighteni=
ng up a bit as we go towards dawn. Nothing from Jim but given the paths an=
d the timeline its still way too short given the&nbsp;mutual full&nbsp;dar=
kness path. It still isnt.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Gus's move to 925 helped a lot and it was easy to see the WSPR signature=
 using Argo.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
On WOLF<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
snipped from another email<BR>
2009-09-10 21:15:29 &gt;WOLF10&nbsp; -r 8100.257 -f 1000 -t 1 -w 0.0000<BR=
>t:&nbsp; 24 <FONT color=3D#ff0000><FONT color=3D#ff0000>f</FONT>:-0.339=
 etc..................</FONT><BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
For calibration of receiver/cards I commend John W1TAG's site - have a tro=
ll around and perhaps read.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
<A href=3D"http://www.w1tag.com/WOLFSamp.htm">http://www.w1tag.com/WOLFSam=
p.htm</A><BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Hes got some great stuff on his site.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
WOLF should be a much better "dig into the noise" protocol for paths like=
 mine which require a lot of aggregation and sampling to get a good decode=
. Time will tell. But you have to get your receiver and sound cal down to=
 nearly zero Hz offset for the best improvement. <FONT color=3D#ff0000><FO=
NT color=3D#ff0000>f</FONT>:-0.339 (Hz)&nbsp;isnt bad - </FONT><BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Your pc too has to work very hard and having multiple processes running ma=
y be stressing it to the point where buffers are being buffeted! Im runnin=
g WSPR, WOLF, ARGO, ARGO upload and Internet exp all at the same time and=
 Im not sure whether this is the best for large processing sessions. I ten=
d to look at the clock timing and if there is discrepancies between actual=
 and PC clock time over a short baseline Im probably doing too much (my si=
mple view)<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
If your getting f: &gt;1Hz decodes&nbsp;you need to do something - In fact=
 if your getting freq offsets&nbsp; f: &gt;0.5 +- Hz&nbsp;Id still do some=
thing to get your cal better. When we come to longer paths and weaker more=
 transitory openings it will really pay, and not just for WOLF either.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
WOLF should (should) knock socks off WSPR at very very low signal levels=
 (&gt;-30)&nbsp;but time will tell. It also requires a very stable receive=
r/phase to work...a receiver that wanders just a few millihertz over the=
 sampling period will reduce the quality of&nbsp;the decode..&nbsp; It may=
 appear to be a lot of work and over the short paths WSPR/CW et al is much=
 more forgiving..<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
With thanks for the signals - off to work time.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Laurence KL 1X G4 DMA in Tianjin China.<BR><br /><hr />Hotmail=AE is up to=
 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast.  <a href=3D'http://windows=
live.com/online/hotmail?ocid=3DPID23391::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HYGN_fas=
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Dear all,

aural reception of EI0CF around midnight UTC (September 28th to 29th),
559 slight QRN, in eastern Bavaria, JN68GN.

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G

Try running the real NTP server rather than Dimension 4?

http://www.meinberg.de/english/sw/ntp.htm

Runs as an XP service and it's "the real thing" rather than a clock 
tweaker like Dimension 4

J



Graham wrote:
> Nice signal Jim,
> 
> Just  found AGV  had removed dimension 4 from my pc .luckily not the one 
> that runs the  tx ..
> something on the  web site about a glitch in agv   fine hihi
> 
> G ..
> 
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "James Moritz" <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>
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>> Dear LF Group,
>>
>> The M0BMU WSPR beacon is running again tonight 0n 503.975kHz (502.4k "dial
>> frequency"). Any reports are very welcome. Also a very strong signal from
>> SM6BHZ tonight.
>>
>> Cheers, Jim Moritz
>> 73 de M0BMU
>>
>>
>>
> 
> 
> 
>> No virus found in this incoming message.
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Hi Lubos,

Thank you for the report.

73

Gary - G4WGT.

2009/9/19 Lubos OK2BVG <bvgbob@hotmail.com>:
> Hello LF!
>
> 2240=A0 -5=A0 1.1=A0=A0 1.503925=A0 0 SM6BHZ JO57 33
> 2240 -25=A0 0.4=A0=A0 1.503950=A0 0 M0LMH IO93 20
> 2244 -24=A0 0.9=A0=A0 1.503911=A0 0 G4WGT IO83 27
>
> Lubos, OK2BVG
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Graham wrote:
> JIm,
> 
> I think you  find that is  caused by 50 hz mains hum .... may be a hum 
> loop in the  audio system / pc-tx earthling , not likely to  be psu 
> problem as frequency is 50 (fund)  and 150 ( 3 rd harm)
> 
> I had a similar problem with my  valve HF set , that was a slight  
> ripple on the PA  HT line caused by the  100% duty cycle of wspr, not 
> part of the design criteria for  ssb/cw , caused  spots to appear +/-  
> 100  Hz due to the  full wave  rectification in the  psu
> 


Oddly though Jame's twin spots of Jim are 100Hz apart:

M0BMU    0.503944
M0BMU    0.503844

John


-- 
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Dear LF WhiSPeRers,



my WSPR?monitor?is still continuously online, and?ready to report possible activity?around 137.0 kHz.



73 de Markus, DF6NM



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<div>Dear LF WhiSPeRers,</div>


<div>&nbsp;</div>


<div>my WSPR&nbsp;monitor&nbsp;is still continuously online, and&nbsp;ready to report possible activity&nbsp;around 137.0 kHz.</div>


<div>&nbsp;</div>


<div>73 de Markus, DF6NM</div>


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G4JNT also vy strong.
RX Antenna inv L 100 vert and 400 ft horizontal N/S
G3KEV

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  Strong signal from G7NKS on band at 1450=20
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=20

Hi Chaps and Chappesses. The long haul conditions towards Eu, and for that=
 matter probably elsewhere are pretty good at the moment - DCF39 was pound=
ing in way over S9 last night here on the Eastern coastal region of China,=
 and s/n noise, in a box or otherwise, were getting better and it wasnt hu=
rting my ears any more. Always a good sign. Mid range NDB's at around 1500=
Kms on the otherhand were down a bit.

=20

If anyone wants to shove any mode up the spout on 137 or 500 my way Id be=
 delighted to turn the knobs as long as you send an email before lights ou=
t here at around 1330z.

=20

Its interesting to look at the 500 captures of Gus and see how short the=
 opening is at the moment - akin to the ol' gray/grey oblique iono tilts.=
 looking at the data the typical fades/peaks are around 1 minute, so longe=
r than I thought, but very deep, but I bet they change when the iono kicks=
 up. Slightly short a time for WOLF but Im betting it still overall a bett=
er mode for long (long) haul than results have shown so far with WSPR.

=20

Laurence, SWLing in  OM89UA Tanggu China.
                     =20
_________________________________________________________________
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Hi Chaps and Chappesses. The long haul conditions towards Eu, and for that=
 matter probably elsewhere are pretty good at the moment - DCF39 was pound=
ing in way over S9 last night here on the Eastern coastal region of China,=
 and s/n noise, in a box or otherwise, were getting better and it wasnt hu=
rting my ears any more. Always a good sign. Mid range NDB's at around 1500=
Kms on the otherhand were down a bit.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
If anyone wants to shove any mode up the spout on 137 or 500 my way Id be=
 delighted to turn the knobs as long as you send an email before lights ou=
t here at around 1330z.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Its interesting to look at the 500 captures of Gus and see how short the=
 opening is at the moment - akin to the ol' gray/grey oblique iono tilts.=
 looking at the data the typical&nbsp;fades/peaks are around 1 minute, so=
 longer than I thought, but very deep, but I bet they change when the iono=
 kicks up. Slightly short a time for WOLF but Im betting it still overall=
 a better mode for long (long) haul than results have shown so far with WS=
PR.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Laurence, SWLing in &nbsp;OM89UA Tanggu China.<BR>                     <br=
 /><hr />Lauren found her dream laptop. <a href=3D'http://www.microsoft.co=
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Thanks Henny, Jean-Pierre for the captures!
--=20
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
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On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 4:00 AM, "Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 (F1AFJ)"
<jpm.f1afj@online.fr> wrote:
> Hello Henny ,
> Good conditions this still on the Atlantic, and Asia.
> On your capure one sees the signal of UA4WPF beacon!
> 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj
>
> henny van elst a =E9crit :
>>
>> Hi Warren LF,
>> Nice capture XGJ
>> Henny pa3cpm
>> best 73
>>
>

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Thanks for this John. I shall give it a go and let people have reports.

73s
Roger G3XBM

2009/9/9 John P-G <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk>

> Roger,
>
> I found Wolfgang, DL4YHF, has writting a GUI program to run WOLF
> (originally it was command line only) and it's available here:
>
> http://freenet-homepage.de/dl4yhf/wolf/index.html
>
> actual download URL:
> http://freenet-homepage.de/dl4yhf/wolf/wolf_gui_060118.zip
>
> I simply unzipped it and ran the WOLF_GUI.exe file.
>
> I set the centre frequency to 1kHz (the tab "Wolf config" has settings for
> TX and RX centre frequency) and then back on the main tab clicked the "RX"
> button. Tune the RX in USB mode to 502.5000 and you should see a coloured
> line in the center of the waterfall (Jim's signal) then after 12 seconds or
> so some decoded stuff should appear.
>
> I can't help any more than that, yet.
>
> Cheers,
>
> John
> GM4SLV
> Shetland
>
> Roger Lapthorn wrote:
>
>> *Newbie help please.....*
>>
>>
>> As I'd like to try listening to the WOLF transmissions people are sending
>> on
>> 500kHz, can someone give me a link or two to *suitable software and
>> installation instructions *please?  Is there the equivalent of K1JT's WSPR
>> software than simply installs and runs? At this stage I am only interested
>> in receiving.
>>
>> I assume that a reasonable XP laptop and a SignaLink USB are all that I
>> need
>> in addition to my FT817, as for WSPR.
>>
>> 73s
>> Roger G3XBM
>>
>> -------------------------------------------------------------
>> http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/
>> http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
>> G3XBM    GQRP 1678      ISWL G11088
>>
>>
>
>


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Thanks for this John. I shall give it a go and let people have reports.<br=
><br>73s<br>Roger G3XBM<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/9/9 John P-=
G <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk">g=
m4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk</a>&gt;</span><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204,=
 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Roger,<br>
<br>
I found Wolfgang, DL4YHF, has writting a GUI program to run WOLF (original=
ly it was command line only) and it&#39;s available here:<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"http://freenet-homepage.de/dl4yhf/wolf/index.html" target=3D"_b=
lank">http://freenet-homepage.de/dl4yhf/wolf/index.html</a><br>
<br>
actual download URL:<br>
<a href=3D"http://freenet-homepage.de/dl4yhf/wolf/wolf_gui_060118.zip" tar=
get=3D"_blank">http://freenet-homepage.de/dl4yhf/wolf/wolf_gui_060118.zip<=
/a><br>
<br>
I simply unzipped it and ran the WOLF_GUI.exe file.<br>
<br>
I set the centre frequency to 1kHz (the tab &quot;Wolf config&quot; has se=
ttings for TX and RX centre frequency) and then back on the main tab click=
ed the &quot;RX&quot; button. Tune the RX in USB mode to 502.5000 and you=
 should see a coloured line in the center of the waterfall (Jim&#39;s sign=
al) then after 12 seconds or so some decoded stuff should appear.<br>

<br>
I can&#39;t help any more than that, yet.<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
<br>
John<br>
GM4SLV<br>
Shetland<br>
<br>
Roger Lapthorn wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204,=
 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
*Newbie help please.....*<div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
<br>
As I&#39;d like to try listening to the WOLF transmissions people are send=
ing on<br>
500kHz, can someone give me a link or two to *suitable software and<br>
installation instructions *please? =A0Is there the equivalent of K1JT&#39;=
s WSPR<br>
software than simply installs and runs? At this stage I am only interested=
<br>
in receiving.<br>
<br>
I assume that a reasonable XP laptop and a SignaLink USB are all that I ne=
ed<br>
in addition to my FT817, as for WSPR.<br>
<br>
73s<br>
Roger G3XBM<br>
<br>
-------------------------------------------------------------<br>
<a href=3D"http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://g3xbm-=
qrp.blogspot.com/</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.g3xbm.co.uk" target=3D"_blank">http://www.g3xbm.co.u=
k</a><br>
G3XBM =A0 =A0GQRP 1678 =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL G11088<br>
<br>
</div></div></blockquote>
<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>----------------------=
---------------------------------------<br><a href=3D"http://g3xbm-qrp.blo=
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> Thanks Andrey
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Tnx roman for info abt yo2is qsx 500 khz
g3kev
YO2IS pse call on 7033 for xband qso

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Roman RW3ADB" <rw3adb@rambler.ru>
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>
>
>> Excellent propagartion world wide on 7Mcs tonite but so far nothing
> exciting on LF/MF
>
> Not so excellent, Mal. You are do not copy me on 40 now. -)
>
>> Mal/g3kev
>
>
>
> --
> Roman RW3ADB.
>


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Hi , Henny , Lubos , Warren ,

Yes very good copy of "XGJ" last night !! ( see capture )

73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

henny van elst a =E9crit :
> Hi Warren,LF
> capture XGJ
> Henny pa3cpm
> best 73s
>  =20
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Hi Roger

 

Well done! I remember my first contact albeit at -30dB and my first CW QSO
with G3XIZ too.  Beats the pants off 20m ssb for wow factor!!

 

As the night progresses you may get further.  I got to Shetlands with my
version one ground heater!

 

With best regards

 

 

Jim

 

 

Dr. James Cowburn

E  <blocked::mailto:james.cowburn@virgin.net> james.cowburn@virgin.net

 

 

  _____  

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Roger Lapthorn
Sent: 13 September 2009 21:11
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: My first WSPR spots

 

All of 3kms away (whoa DX!!) but I just got my first WSPR report on 500kHz:


 2009-09-13 20:04 

 G3XBM 

 0.503908 

 -6 

 0 

 JO02dg 

 0.001 

 G6ALB 

 JO02dg 

 0 

 0 


 2009-09-13 20:02 

 G3XBM 

 0.503910 

 -12 

 -1 

 JO02dg 

 0.001 

 G6ALB 

 JO02dg 

 0 

 0 


At least the signal is getting across the fields at the back of the house.
Andrew G6ALB is in the next village. You can see by my report that I have a
LOT of work to do....

73s
Roger G3XBM
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http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
G3XBM    GQRP 1678      ISWL G11088


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at -30dB and my first CW QSO with G3XIZ too. &nbsp;Beats the pants off=
 20m ssb for
wow factor!!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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yle=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>As the night pr=
ogresses you may get
further.&nbsp; I got to Shetlands with my version one ground heater!<o=
:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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e=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>All of 3kms awa=
y (whoa
DX!!) but I just got my first WSPR report on 500kHz:<o:p></o:p></span>=
</font></p>

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p></p>
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&nbsp;-6&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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&nbsp;0&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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:p></p>
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  <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span=
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p></p>
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  <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span=
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:p></p>
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&nbsp;2009-09-13
  20:02&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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  <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span=
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p></p>
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  <p class=3DMsoNormal align=3Dright style=3D'text-align:right'><font=
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&nbsp;0.503910&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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  <p class=3DMsoNormal align=3Dright style=3D'text-align:right'><font=
 size=3D2   face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>=
&nbsp;-12&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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  <p class=3DMsoNormal align=3Dright style=3D'text-align:right'><font=
 size=3D2   face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>=
&nbsp;-1&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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  <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span=
   style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>&nbsp;JO02dg&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o=
:p></p>
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&nbsp;0.001&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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  <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span=
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p></p>
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  <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span=
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:p></p>
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le=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'><br clear=3Dall>
At least the signal is getting across the fields at the back of the ho=
use.
Andrew G6ALB is in the next village. You can see by my report that I=
 have a <st1:place w:st=3D"on">LOT</st1:place> of work to do....<br>
<br>
73s<br>
Roger G3XBM<br>
-- <br>
-------------------------------------------------------------<br>
<a href=3D"http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/">http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.c=
om/</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.g3xbm.co.uk">http://www.g3xbm.co.uk</a><br>
G3XBM &nbsp; &nbsp;GQRP 1678 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;ISWL G11088<o:p></o:p=
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On 10 Sep 2009 at 21:11, Roger Lapthorn wrote:

> Well, easy for some (I can see) but NOT for me. What am I doing wrong?
> 
> 19:19:11 >WOLF RESTARTED
> t:  24 f: 0.367 a:-0.5 dp: 85.8 ci: 1 cj:  0 1STCG6J2X7EUEWZ ?
> t:  48 f: 0.366 a:-0.4 dp: 85.7 ci: 2 cj:  0 VP*JV9IX47R60ZC ?

You are not alone Roger....

2009-09-10 20:05:04 >WOLF10  -r 8000 -f 700 -t 10 -d 8 -w 0.0000
t:  24 f:-3.282 a: 0.2 dp:131.5 ci: 1 cj:202 Y 6NQSDZ42XVQHU ?
t:  48 f:-3.282 a: 0.2 dp:128.8 ci: 7 cj:252 XHW/EU864G09IUO ?
t:  96 f:-3.429 a: 0.1 dp:126.6 ci: 6 cj:472 SCE6XF5ZOGYP0IY -
t: 192 f:-3.477 pm: 8690 jm:456 q: -6.9 -8.0 HIQ*QAUZFJGT8XB ?
t: 288 f:-3.770 pm:11554 jm:455 q: -8.3 -7.8 K2WH67SKZF20??? ?
t: 384 f:-3.477 pm:11696 jm:455 q: -4.8 -4.9 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t: 480 f:-3.477 pm:13507 jm:455 q: -4.8 -5.7 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t: 576 f:-2.891 pm:20843 jm:453 q: -3.7 -8.0 0XB7VQ6W169B0J9 ?
t: 672 f:-2.891 pm:20855 jm:453 q: -3.5 -7.9 0XB7VQ6W169B0J9 ?
t: 768 f:-2.891 pm:20862 jm:453 q: -3.4-10.2 DGC1ALF5ZELF5HS ?

At least there are a couple of valid decodes there, but my quality 
fields are way way below those of John's.

Like WSPR another of these toys which I will probably never look at 
again...

73 Dave G3YMC

http://www.davesergeant.com



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Dear Warren,

Band plans aside, do all the various WD/WE stations have access to the same 
basic frequency range?

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Good morning,
F8BOJ calling CQ for a while on 137.740KHz and now in QSO with someone.
=20
vy73
Marco
DD7PC
JN49ax
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Rx: FT857 + Miniwhip

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From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of F4DTL@aol.com
Sent: 18 September 2009 18:15
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: F8BOJ beacon


Hello Claude,you should make tries beacon in QRSS60 at night, with your
good signal americans listeners should receive you i think.
=20
Cheers my friends.
F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP

RX : Icom IC7400
Ant: Wellbrook LFL 1010
http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/

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Andrey goodnight 
Thank you to leave your grabber road I'll try to see me go home 
at least good night tribute to your qro ..
best regards...
Claude F8boj

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Roman RW3ADB" <rw3adb@rambler.ru>
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> 
> HI, Claude!
> RN3AGC Andrey ask you trying to TX on 137777 up to 2-3 hours later.
> Trying to see you in Moscow.
> The grabbers started ON:
> http://www.rn3agc.msk.ru/grabber1.shtml
> http://qrss.nm.ru/grabber.html
> 
> --
> Roman RW3ADB.
> 
>



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Dear Roman, LF Group,

The signal on 503950Hz is SM6BHZ. G4WGT is on 503910 and G7NKS on 503946 
(but very QRP).

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU 



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John,

Are these spots up loaded to the  wspr  database , im not  seeing any at 
your  range ?

G ..

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>
> I have some copy of SM6BHZ in the past half hour:
> 0016 -29  0.9   0.503951   0  SM6BHZ JO57 30
> 0026 -28  1.0   0.503951   0  SM6BHZ JO57 30
> 0034 -27  1.0   0.503951   0  SM6BHZ JO57 30
> 0040 -26  1.2   0.503951   0  SM6BHZ JO57 30
>
> Will let it run overnight and see if any other calls show up.
>
> John Andrews, W1TAG/1
> Raymond, Maine FN42ch
>
>



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Thank you Lubos for the excellent capture!
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73 Warren K2ORS
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2009/9/9 Lubos OK2BVG <bvgbob@hotmail.com>:
> Hello Waren, LF!
> There were fantastic condition last night! Both, XGJ and WPF were receiv=
ed
> at the same time. WPF is usually FB, but it was interesting, that=A0 XGJ=
=B4s
> signal was 15dB over noise! SUPER!
>
> 73!
>
> Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS
>
> ________________________________
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Dear Markus, Andrey, LF Group,

I am now running the WSPR beacon again on 135.5kHz "dial frequency", 
137.090kHz RF out. Hopefully, this will be within range of Markus' receiver, 
and also near enough to 137.1k for Andrey.

If anyone else is going to be on 137k tonight, I can set the RX to monitor 
their QRG - if not, I could put the RX on 500kHz again.

Looking at Markus' grabber tonight, it is nearly a white-out (or rather 
green-out ;-)) due to the loud QRN, but we will see.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
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Andy, LF,

Nothing here yet, but will leave WSPR RX running continuously.

I see BHZ has just appeared here at 1418z

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Hi LF,
Capture DI2AM-DI2AG
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Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden ver=
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Dear John and LF,

I did some test after work with antenna between 14.00 and 14.30.
 
73 de Gus SM6BHZ


----- Original Message ----- 
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> Andy, LF,
> 
> Nothing here yet, but will leave WSPR RX running continuously.
> 
> I see BHZ has just appeared here at 1418z
> 
> John
> GM4SLV
> -- 
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> Clousta, Shetland
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>




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Tim
Test ur antenna and cw.
Can u hear my CW on 502.6
de mal/g3kev

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> Have my Rx on 500kHz (dial 502.4) immediately got copy of G7NKS, will
> leave it running for a while and uploading spots to the database
>
> Tim M0AFJ
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>


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Gus ,

I would  say the  beacon is round the  55  mark, Im using the  38  ft=
  vertical , un tuned , into the  ft-897  with the  pre -amp 'off' ,=
 the  local bc  radio  is cross modding the  rx if I use the  tuner et=
c .. may be  not  as strong as the  last time  you  ran ssb , usual de=
ep  qsb , but the  audio is  fine=20

73 - Graham

Nb as  more stations are tuned to  500 , perhaps  one night  you  coul=
d  run the psk sounder again ?

http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/zl2afp-psk-sounder



From: Gus=20
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Subject: LF: SSB Beacon


Dear LF,

this evening i test an SSB Beacon, QRG 508 kHz LSB.
Reports are welcome.

73 de Gus SM6BHZ
www.sm6bhz.com




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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Gus ,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Nb as&nbsp; more stations are tuned=
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perhaps&nbsp; one night&nbsp; you&nbsp; could&nbsp; run the psk sounde=
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, September 24, 2009 7:18 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org   href=3D"mail=
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> LF: SSB Beacon</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4>Dear LF,</FONT></EM></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4></FONT></EM></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4>this evening i test an SSB Beacon, QRG=
 508 kHz=20
LSB.</FONT></EM></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4>Reports are welcome.</FONT></EM></STRO=
NG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4></FONT></EM></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4>73 de Gus SM6BHZ</FONT></EM></STRONG><=
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Dear All

 

G7NKS   ("No Known Signal! Hi hi) will be also txing on Wolf tonight.  I
will send G7NKS IO92UB 10mw.   I am still v QRPppp but we'll see how I get
on.

 

Having fixed my mini-VNA (dry joint on coax connectors!) I will be working
on my ant system this weekend, after a trip to the Loughborough rally to get
some bits and pieces.

 

 

 

With best regards

 

 

Jim

 

 

Dr. James Cowburn G7NKS

 

  _____  

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Roger Lapthorn
Sent: 10 September 2009 17:39
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: WOLF - ready to RX

 

All being well I am now ready to RX on WOLF on 502.5kHz (USB dial freq). Is
anyone planning to TX using WOLF this evening?

73s
Roger G3XBM

-------------------------------------------------------------
http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/
http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
G3XBM    GQRP 1678      ISWL G11088


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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
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yle=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>G7NKS&nbsp;&nbs=
p; (&#8220;No Known Signal! Hi hi) will
be also txing on Wolf tonight. &nbsp;I will send G7NKS IO92UB 10mw.&nb=
sp;&nbsp; I am still v
QRPppp but we&#8217;ll see how I get on.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Having fixed my=
 mini-VNA (dry joint on
coax connectors!) I will be working on my ant system this weekend, aft=
er a trip
to the Loughborough rally to get some bits and pieces.<o:p></o:p></spa=
n></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>With best regar=
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t-family:Tahoma'> owner-<st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blac=
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weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Roger Lapthorn<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 10 September 2009=
 17:39<br>
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t=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> LF: WOLF - rea=
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le=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'>All being well I am now ready to RX on WOLF=
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freq). Is anyone planning to TX using WOLF this evening?<br>
<br>
73s<br>
Roger G3XBM<br clear=3Dall>
<br>
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<a href=3D"http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/">http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.c=
om/</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.g3xbm.co.uk">http://www.g3xbm.co.uk</a><br>
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Jim,

XGR/3 off at 0235.

John, W1TAG

James Moritz wrote:
> Dear Jay, John, LF Group
> 
> Having arrived home, I see I have been copying WE2XGR/2 since about 
> midnight. I started up another instance of WOLF GUI upon seeing that 
> WE2XGR/3 was also on, and have just started to get copy at about 0220utc.
> 
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
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Dave,

On a quick look, I see some substantial frequency drift, probably due to 
the receiver, and also the possibility that your actual sound card 
sampling rate is quite different from the default 8000 Hz. Both of these 
things will keep the copy from building up, as the framing keeps changing.

Are you used to seeing frequency drift on QRSS signals? Do you suspect 
that the receiver isn't stable?

John, W1TAG

>> Well, easy for some (I can see) but NOT for me. What am I doing wrong?
>>
>> 19:19:11 >WOLF RESTARTED
>> t:  24 f: 0.367 a:-0.5 dp: 85.8 ci: 1 cj:  0 1STCG6J2X7EUEWZ ?
>> t:  48 f: 0.366 a:-0.4 dp: 85.7 ci: 2 cj:  0 VP*JV9IX47R60ZC ?
> 
> You are not alone Roger....
> 
> 2009-09-10 20:05:04 >WOLF10  -r 8000 -f 700 -t 10 -d 8 -w 0.0000
> t:  24 f:-3.282 a: 0.2 dp:131.5 ci: 1 cj:202 Y 6NQSDZ42XVQHU ?
> t:  48 f:-3.282 a: 0.2 dp:128.8 ci: 7 cj:252 XHW/EU864G09IUO ?
> t:  96 f:-3.429 a: 0.1 dp:126.6 ci: 6 cj:472 SCE6XF5ZOGYP0IY -
> t: 192 f:-3.477 pm: 8690 jm:456 q: -6.9 -8.0 HIQ*QAUZFJGT8XB ?
> t: 288 f:-3.770 pm:11554 jm:455 q: -8.3 -7.8 K2WH67SKZF20??? ?
> t: 384 f:-3.477 pm:11696 jm:455 q: -4.8 -4.9 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
> t: 480 f:-3.477 pm:13507 jm:455 q: -4.8 -5.7 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
> t: 576 f:-2.891 pm:20843 jm:453 q: -3.7 -8.0 0XB7VQ6W169B0J9 ?
> t: 672 f:-2.891 pm:20855 jm:453 q: -3.5 -7.9 0XB7VQ6W169B0J9 ?
> t: 768 f:-2.891 pm:20862 jm:453 q: -3.4-10.2 DGC1ALF5ZELF5HS ?
> 
> At least there are a couple of valid decodes there, but my quality 
> fields are way way below those of John's.
> 
> Like WSPR another of these toys which I will probably never look at 
> again...
> 
> 73 Dave G3YMC
> 
> http://www.davesergeant.com
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> 
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G'day Mal,

>
> Most great men come from NI including 12 ex Presidents of the USA.
>

Let me see.... 

NI  -> USA -> President.

NI -> Scarborough -> CW Op

Oh - now I see the similarity.....;-)

73 Steve VK2XV





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Hi Piotr,

The first line is:
2009-09-10 19:15:05 >WOLF10  -r 8000 -f 987 -t 20 -w 0.0000

The frequency of 987Hz is where (on my RX) Jim's signal peaks.

73s
Roger G3XBM

2009/9/10 Piotr M=C5=82ynarski <sq7mpj@toya.net.pl>

>  Roger Lapthorn wrote:
>
> Well, easy for some (I can see) but NOT for me. What am I doing wrong?
>
> 19:19:11 >WOLF RESTARTED
>
> And STILL no decode even though Jim is clear and strong on the waterfall=
.
>
> 73s
> Roger G3XBM
>
>
>> 2009-09-10 19:36:31 >WOLF10  -r 11025 -f 1000 -t 3 -w 0.0000
>>
>
> Dear Roger, LF group
>
> when you start the prgram from  scratch  the first line which appears
> in the receiving window looks like this:
> 2009-09-10 19:36:31 >WOLF10  -r 11025 -f 1000 -t 3 -w 0.0000
> send  here  "the same" line but from ur rx window . this line gives some
> info about your particular settings
> let's  look at it
>
>                                    73 de peter, sq7mpj
> qth: Lodz /jo91rs/
>
>


--=20
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http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/
http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
G3XBM    GQRP 1678      ISWL G11088

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Hi Piotr,<br><br>The first line is:<br>2009-09-10 19:15:05 &gt;WOLF10=C2=
=A0 -r 8000 -f 987 -t 20 -w 0.0000<br><br>The frequency of 987Hz is where=
 (on my RX) Jim&#39;s signal peaks.<br><br>73s<br>Roger G3XBM<br><br><div=
 class=3D"gmail_quote">
2009/9/10 Piotr M=C5=82ynarski <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:sq7=
mpj@toya.net.pl">sq7mpj@toya.net.pl</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class=3D=
"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin:=
 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">



 =20
 =20

<div bgcolor=3D"#ffffff" text=3D"#000000">
Roger Lapthorn wrote:
<blockquote cite=3D"http://mid9afca2640909101311i11534831g528282550dc840fe=
@mail.gmail.com" type=3D"cite"><div class=3D"im">Well, easy for some (I ca=
n see) but NOT for me. What am I
doing wrong?<br>
  <br>
19:19:11 &gt;WOLF RESTARTED<br>
  <br></div><div class=3D"im">
And STILL no decode even though Jim is clear and strong on the
waterfall.<br>
  <br>
73s<br>
Roger G3XBM<br>
  <br>
  </div><div class=3D"gmail_quote">
  <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(20=
4, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><br><div clas=
s=3D"im">
2009-09-10 19:36:31 &gt;WOLF10 =C2=A0-r 11025 -f 1000 -t 3 -w 0.0000<br>
  </div></blockquote>
  </div>
</blockquote>
<br>
Dear Roger, LF group<br>
<br>
when you start the prgram from=C2=A0 scratch=C2=A0 the first line which ap=
pears <br>
in the receiving window looks like this:<div class=3D"im"><br>
2009-09-10 19:36:31 &gt;WOLF10 =C2=A0-r 11025 -f 1000 -t 3 -w 0.0000<br></=
div>
send=C2=A0 here=C2=A0 &quot;the same&quot; line but from ur rx window . th=
is line gives
some info about your particular settings<br>
let&#39;s=C2=A0 look at it<div class=3D"im"><br>
<br>
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 73 de peter,=
 sq7mpj<br>
qth: Lodz /jo91rs/<br>
<br>
</div></div>

</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>----------------------=
---------------------------------------<br><a href=3D"http://g3xbm-qrp.blo=
gspot.com/">http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.g3=
xbm.co.uk">http://www.g3xbm.co.uk</a><br>
G3XBM =C2=A0 =C2=A0GQRP 1678 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0ISWL G11088<br>

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My wife goes shopping.works for her!!

 

With best regards

 

 

Jim

 

 

Dr. James Cowburn

 

  _____  

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Roger Lapthorn
Sent: 19 September 2009 10:52
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: RE: 500kHz QRPp WSPR overnight

 

Dear Jim (et al),

Thanks for this interesting analysis. It does indeed suggest plenty of scope
for improvement in the coming months. 

As I've said several times in the last week, I'm gobsmacked that anyone,
apart from G6ALB 3kms away, is able to hear me with the set-up I have. The
500kHz WSPR beacon will run one more time overnight tonight  then it will be
off for 2-3 weeks.  

My wife is wanting her dressing table back as the tiny ATU is sitting on it
and tuning is very sharp; every time she puts anything down I have to check
the antenna current is peaked :-))

You know I'm like a kid: I get so excited looking at the spots and thinking
about gradually making improvements and seeing my coverage extend on 500kHz.


My wife just humours me!

73s
Roger G3XBM



2009/9/19 James Moritz <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>

Dear Roger, LF Group,

It is interesting to make an estimate of what G3XBM's ERP might be...

The noise level at M0BMU during relatively quiet daytime conditions I
estimate to be of the order of 3uV/m in the 2.5kHz WSPR reference bandwidth.
The reported SNR gets up to about -25dB, making the signal level from G3XBM
about 0.18uV/m.

ERP = (Ed)^2 / 49; with E = 0.18 x 10e-6, d = 69000m , ERP is about 3uW with
only "geometric spreading" propagation losses. But there is some additional
reduction in field strength due to ground wave propagation losses, perhaps
3dB with "good" ground, so the ERP would then become about 6uW. Diffraction
losses due to the curvature of the earth are negligible at this distance.

Obviously, this could be +/- several dB due to various uncertainties, but
should be of the right order of magnitude. Plenty of potential for
improvement then!

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU 




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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'fo=
nt-size:10.0pt; font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></fon=
t></b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;fon=
t-family:Tahoma'> owner-<st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blac=
ksheep.org</st1:PersonName> [mailto:owner-<st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">=
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weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Roger Lapthorn<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 19 September 2009=
 10:52<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:s=
t=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: LF: RE: 50=
0kHz QRPp
WSPR overnight</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3D3 fac=
e=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Dear Jim (et al=
),<br>
<br>
Thanks for this interesting analysis. It does indeed suggest <u>plenty=
</u> of
scope for improvement in the coming months. <br>
<br>
As I've said several times in the last week, I'm gobsmacked that anyon=
e, apart
from G6ALB 3kms away, is able to hear me with the set-up I have. The=
 500kHz
WSPR beacon will run one more time overnight tonight&nbsp; then it wil=
l be off
for 2-3 weeks.&nbsp; <br>
<br>
My wife is wanting her dressing table back as the tiny ATU is sitting=
 on it and
tuning is very sharp; every time she puts anything down I have to chec=
k the
antenna current is peaked :-))<br>
<br>
You know I'm like a kid: I get <i><span style=3D'font-style:italic'>so=
</span></i>
excited looking at the spots and thinking about gradually making impro=
vements
and seeing my coverage extend on 500kHz. <br>
<br>
My wife just humours me!<br>
<br>
73s<br>
Roger G3XBM<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'>2009/9/19 James Moritz &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:=
james.moritz@btopenworld.com">james.moritz@btopenworld.com</a>&gt;<o:p=
></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3D3 fac=
e=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Dear Roger, LF=
 Group,<br>
<br>
It is interesting to make an estimate of what G3XBM's ERP might be...<=
br>
<br>
The noise level at M0BMU during relatively quiet daytime conditions I=
 estimate
to be of the order of 3uV/m in the 2.5kHz WSPR reference bandwidth. Th=
e
reported SNR gets up to about -25dB, making the signal level from G3XB=
M about
0.18uV/m.<br>
<br>
ERP =3D (Ed)^2 / 49; with E =3D 0.18 x 10e-6, d =3D 69000m , ERP is ab=
out 3uW with
only &quot;geometric spreading&quot; propagation losses. But there is=
 some
additional reduction in field strength due to ground wave propagation=
 losses,
perhaps 3dB with &quot;good&quot; ground, so the ERP would then become=
 about
6uW. Diffraction losses due to the curvature of the earth are negligib=
le at
this distance.<br>
<br>
Obviously, this could be +/- several dB due to various uncertainties,=
 but
should be of the right order of magnitude. Plenty of potential for imp=
rovement
then!<br>
<br>
Cheers, Jim Moritz<br>
73 de M0BMU <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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om/</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.g3xbm.co.uk">http://www.g3xbm.co.uk</a><br>
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Dave,

The deviation of the actual sampling rate from the nominal (8000, 11025, 
etc.) have always been an issue for low bit-rate sound card modes. The 
newer schemes may produce wider excursions, but that is a problem only 
if you aren't correcting for it.

WOLF has an obvious way to compensate for the actual sound card sampling 
rate, and once you have done it, the performance will be just as good as 
it would be if the rate were exactly equal to the nominal. If you have 
an accurate tone source, just use it in the WOLF calibration process, 
and you'll be all set. Other tone sources include Loran-C and 
divided-down outputs of higher frequency well-calibrated oscillators.

As you point out, the WSPR program does not seem to have a way to 
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has a jack-of-all-trades program called WSJT that DOES allow for 
calibration. WSPR is one of a number of modes offered in WSJT. So, that 
might be a way out for those stuck with on-board audio setups.

That said, I've never had a sampling rate issue with WSPR on any of my 
various computers, a couple of which sample pretty far off the mark.

If you think this stuff is fussy, try BPSK at 1 bit/sec where your only 
adjustment is a trimmer cap in a crystal oscillator. Been there.

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I'll leave the beacon running overnight and hope that a few new spots might
materialise if the band is quiet during the night and dawn period.

Further improvements envisaged - more power, significant antenna
improvements etc - will now have to wait until October. Until I go on
holiday at the end of the weekend I'll keep running with the current set-up
and see if any others managed to find me.

All great fun and I want to do better in the coming months....

73s
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I&#39;ll leave the beacon running overnight and hope that a few new spots=
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provements etc - will now have to wait until October. Until I go on holida=
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James Cowburn wrote:

> As the night progresses you may get further.  I got to Shetlands with my
> version one ground heater!


And again tonight...

2150 -28  1.1   0.503965  0 G7NKS IO92 23

Cheers,

John


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Roger I am stating the facts, someone else mentioned seeing the signal=
s on the waterfall but they were not decoding. I could easlily have ma=
de a qso on cw given the strength of signals whereas WSPR was not deco=
ding, so the exercise is pointless.
Get active on LF/MF transmitting and try the various modes then let me=
 have your opinion. We could have a qso on CW while WSPR is warming up=
!!!!!!!!
g3kev

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  Mal,

  Not helpful and factually incorrect.

  73s
  Roger




  2009/9/1 mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>

    All WSPR signals last evening struggling in QRN/QRS whereas they=
 were audible here and if in CW mode I could easily have made a real=
 time QSO.
    decode was marginal, and then the same old repetive rubbish.
    g3kev

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Dear LF Group,

The WSPR beacon is now running again on 503.975kHz (502.4kHz "dial 
frequency"). Any reports would be very welcome.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU 



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Tnx Szigy for the QSO xband. Hpe to work u agn soon. I will be on again 
tonite using CW and QRS3.
That was two nice QSO'S last nite RW3ADB and YO2IS. Condx about average.
Tx antenna this end 1/4 wave inv L 100 feet high. RX antennas separate inv L 
500 ft total length and 40 m vert quad loop both resonated on 500 khz or 137 
as required.
73 de mal/g3kev

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> From: YO2IS
>  Hello from KN05ps, was pleased to hear and see the
> QRSS3 signals from G3KEV on 502.5 KHz up to S3, using
> my HM setup, 500KHz/14 MHz conv uA1496, 41m sloping
> wire tunned with a 0.3mH vario and GW4ALG like TU, and
> ARGO on a 'historic' 475 MHz WIN98se machine...
>  Have sent 'O' report on 7033 KHz and we succeded in
> a nice X band QSO, received the following msgs:
>
>  YO2IS G3KEV 5NN K  then  IS KEV QSL O O 73 TU SK
>
>  The level of signals was enough for a CW QSO !, its
> my best 500m ODX, KN05ps -> IO94sh = 1911 Km... Will
> QSLL direct next days...would be happy to get yours.
>  Our experimental beacon YO2X will be activated
> randomly on 505.723 KHz, QRSS3 and CW id, 50W and
> the 41m wire...some day do reactivate also my 137.7...
>
>   73 & DX, Szigy.
>
>


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Many thanks for the report Roman

Regards, Peter, G3LDO
>
>
> Looking to your freq too!
> qrss.nm.ru -> grabber 3 window 500-501.7
> 3rd window. But SPL... Is not so sensitive then ARGO.
> But I hope to see you.
>
> -- 
> Roman RW3ADB.
>
>
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Hi Andrey,
thank's report and info !

73 de Gus SM6BHZ

www.sm6bhz.com


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> Hi Gus, Jim, LF,
> 
> 1920   -23  0.9   0.503926  SM6BHZ JO57 30
> 1932   -16  1.0   0.503926  SM6BHZ JO57 30
> 1938   -15  1.1   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 30
> 1948   -10  0.9   0.503926  SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 1958     -8  0.9   0.503926  SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2002   -26  0.8   0.503841  M0BMU IO91 33
> 2004     -2  1.0   0.503926  SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2006   -27  0.6   0.503841  M0BMU IO91 33
> 2014   -26  1.4   0.503841  M0BMU IO91 33
> 2014   -14  0.8   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2018   -22  0.8   0.503841  M0BMU IO91 33
> 2022     -6  1.0   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2028     -6  0.8   0.503926  SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2032   -21  0.8   0.503841  M0BMU IO91 33
> 2032     -5  0.9   0.503926  SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2038     -8  1.0   0.503926  SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2046     -3  1.0   0.503926  SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2050   -29  0.8   0.503841  M0BMU IO91 33
> 2052     -9  0.7   0.503926  SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2056   -30  0.6   0.503841  M0BMU IO91 33
> 2056     -9  0.8   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2102   -24  0.5   0.503841  M0BMU IO91 33
> 2102     -9  0.8   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2108   -21  0.6   0.503841  M0BMU IO91 33
> 2110     -7  0.9   0.503926  SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2116   -20  0.6   0.503841  M0BMU IO91 33
> 2116   -15  0.6   0.503926  SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2122   -24  2.1   0.503841  M0BMU IO91 33
> 2124     -7  0.8   0.503926  SM6BHZ JO57 40
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Its normalised to 2500Hz banbdwidth - approximately an SSB filter's worth.

So +20dB in 100Hz   =   -3dB in 2500Hz.

Andy
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On 23/09/2009, Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
>
>  Just watched Dave's G3YXM  wspr  signal on spec-lab ,
>
> Spec-lab showed the  signal to  be a constant  20 dB over the back ground
> noise floor  of the  rx
> so in my  book that's 20 dB  s/n
>
> The  wspr  decode is  showing -3 dB s/n ?
>
> What is it  actually  displaying ?
>
> G ..
>
>
>
>



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<div>Its normalised to 2500Hz banbdwidth - approximately an SSB filter&#39=
;s worth.</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>So +20dB in 100Hz=A0=A0 =3D=A0 =A0-3dB in 2500Hz.=A0=A0 </div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>Andy</div>
<div><a href=3D"http://www.g4jnt.com">www.g4jnt.com</a></div>
<div><br><br>=A0</div>
<div><span class=3D"gmail_quote">On 23/09/2009, <b class=3D"gmail_senderna=
me">Graham</b> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk">g8fzk@g8fzk.=
fsnet.co.uk</a>&gt; wrote:</span>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px=
 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">
<div style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 10px; PADDING-LEFT: 10px; PADDING-TOP: 15px"=
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<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Just watched Dave&#39;s G3YXM =A0wspr=
=A0 signal on spec-lab , </font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Spec-lab showed the=A0 signal to=A0=
 be a constant=A0 20 dB over the back ground noise floor=A0 of the=A0 rx=
 </font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">so in my=A0 book that&#39;s 20 dB=A0=
 s/n=A0=A0 </font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">The=A0 wspr=A0 decode is=A0 showing=
 -3 dB s/n ?</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">What is it=A0 actually=A0 displaying=
 ?</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">G .. </font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"></font>=A0</div></div></blockquote></=
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Hello Andrey, LF!
That=B4s fine, thanks! I had got a good reception wihout QRN. But by perma=
nent problem are two strong (S9+60dB) transmitters near ham band (DCF39 an=
d HA). Their modulation is disturbing my reception very much. If you have=
 a look on the map, you can see, that my QTH is just  in the middle betwee=
n them.=20
OK, Andrey, have a nice day!

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

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> From: rn3agc@mail.ru
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 20:17:35 +0000
> Subject: LF: Re: HF70W_QSO
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> Hello Lubos, Marcin,
> I saw traces from signals. But here the strongest
> QRM from broadcasting station to 21z (153 khz).
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> 73 Andrey
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> >
> > Hello MArcin, LF!
> > Thanks for very nice QSO, I am pleased. Your signal was fine - see the=
 picture.
> >
> > 73!
> >
> > Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS
> >
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Hello Andrey, LF!<br>That=B4s fine, thanks! I had got a good reception wih=
out QRN. But by permanent problem are two strong (S9+60dB) transmitters ne=
ar ham band (DCF39 and HA). Their modulation is disturbing my reception ve=
ry much. If you have a look on the map, you can see, that my QTH is just&n=
bsp; in the middle between them. <br>OK, Andrey, have a nice day!<br><br>L=
ubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS<br><br>*************************<br><br>&gt; From: rn=
3agc@mail.ru<br>&gt; To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<br>&gt; Date: Tue,=
 29 Sep 2009 20:17:35 +0000<br>&gt; Subject: LF: Re: HF70W_QSO<br>&gt; <br=
>&gt; Hello Lubos, Marcin,<br>&gt; I saw traces from signals. But here the=
 strongest<br>&gt; QRM from broadcasting station to 21z (153 khz).<br>&gt;=
 <br>&gt; 73 Andrey<br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; Hello MArc=
in, LF!<br>&gt; &gt; Thanks for very nice QSO, I am pleased. Your signal=
 was fine - see the picture.<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; 73!<br>&gt; &gt;<br=
>&gt; &gt; Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; __=
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Hi Lubos, Jean-Pierre, LF,
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Was actually turning quite noisey at the end QRN wise but god sig from WPF=
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Was actually turning quite noisey at the end QRN wise but god sig from WPF=
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These are very impressive results Mal - well done. I expect you've put a
great deal of work in optimising your station and antennas over the years
and we all could learn a good deal from your experience.  I have a LOT to
learn at this end of the spectrum, but that is half the fun.

Best regards
Roger
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2009/9/2 mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>

> I was getting 579 from BOSTON/USA from NC1K on 137 khz over the years on CW
> which I thought was good using simple equipment like a manual morse key,
> home built mosfet class D TX/PA and an inv L antenna, also regular QSO'S
> with Russian stations. I am able to do the same on 500 KCS. I am surprised
> you have difficulty with my signal, I expect the problem is your end.
> NC1K was a professional CW operator (Radio Officer) unfortunately now
> silent key.
> de G3KEV
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "John RABSON" <john.rabson@numeo.fr>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 9:47 PM
> Subject: Re: LF: wspr
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> On 01/09/2009 at 20:17 mal hamilton wrote:
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>  Roger I am stating the facts, someone else mentioned seeing the signals
>> on the waterfall but they were not decoding. I could easlily have made a
>> qso on cw given the strength of signals whereas WSPR was not decoding, so
>> the exercise is pointless.
>>
>
> That was me.  I wasn't decoding because I don't yet have a decoder.  Had I
> had one, and given the snr I observed, I would have expected 100% copy.  On
> the few occasions I have heard Mal, his snr has not been anything like as
> good as WSPR.
>
> John F5VLF
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These are very impressive results Mal - well done. I expect you&#39;ve put=
 a great deal of work in optimising your station and antennas over the yea=
rs and we all could learn a good deal from your experience.=A0 I have a LO=
T to learn at this end of the spectrum, but that is half the fun.<br>
<br>Best regards<br>Roger<br>G3XBM<br><br><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quot=
e">2009/9/2 mal hamilton <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:g3kevmal@=
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I was getting 579 from BOSTON/USA from NC1K on 137 khz over the years on=
 CW which I thought was good using simple equipment like a manual morse ke=
y, home built mosfet class D TX/PA and an inv L antenna, also regular QSO&=
#39;S with Russian stations. I am able to do the same on 500 KCS. I am sur=
prised you have difficulty with my signal, I expect the problem is your en=
d.<br>

NC1K was a professional CW operator (Radio Officer) unfortunately now sile=
nt key.<br>
de G3KEV<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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On 01/09/2009 at 20:17 mal hamilton wrote:<br>
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Roger I am stating the facts, someone else mentioned seeing the signals<br=
>
on the waterfall but they were not decoding. I could easlily have made a<b=
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qso on cw given the strength of signals whereas WSPR was not decoding, so<=
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the exercise is pointless.<br>
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That was me. =A0I wasn&#39;t decoding because I don&#39;t yet have a decod=
er. =A0Had I had one, and given the snr I observed, I would have expected=
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It's more addictive than crack cocaine!!  Every extra 10km or so is a real
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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dennis
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> >>>I have learnt, WSPR sounds like a slightly rough CW and is transmitted
> in 
> >>>4min-blocks. <<<<<
> 
> Dennis , That may  not be wspr , wspr  tx time is  120 seconds locked to
> the 
> exact time , with the  start time on the  00-00
> by sound its like a very  slow narrow shift psk signal .....but it is only
> one  carrier  changing frequency  with  no breaks in the 120 second 
> transmission

Okay better to say: One cycle seemed to be 4min, divided into abt. 115sec TX
and 125sec no TX, maybe RX? The beginning of the received transmissions were
always well within half a second around even minute + zero seconds which to
me seems to be the strongest hint that is really was some wspr what I was
hearing. (DCF77-clock beside the speaker)

Since yesterday I'm looking for a notebook - to run wspr :)

vy73
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Hello Gus ,

your ssb signal is about 55 at the moment,

73

Victor
  -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
  Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens Gus
  Verzonden: donderdag 24 september 2009 20:19
  Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
  Onderwerp: LF: SSB Beacon


  Dear LF,

  this evening i test an SSB Beacon, QRG 508 kHz LSB.
  Reports are welcome.

  73 de Gus SM6BHZ
  www.sm6bhz.com


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On 19 Sep 2009 at 8:53, Roger Lapthorn wrote:

> Clearly work is needed to up the ERP and will be done progressively
> during the autumn.  I will give the current set-up one last go overnight
> tonight then it will be down until Oct 6th. It's the weekend, so there
> might be a few more people listening?

Still not a whisper on the waterfall last night Roger, just the usual 
two Jims booming in:

194400   7 -28  1.4    64  0  G7NKS IO92 27         
195200  10  15  1.2   -53  0  M0BMU IO91 33         
195600   9  -9  1.9    70  0  G7NKS IO92 27         
200600  20  15  1.3   -51  0  M0BMU IO91 33         
200800   9 -11  1.4    76  0  G7NKS IO92 27         
201200  19  15  1.3   -50  0  M0BMU IO91 33         
202000  11 -10  1.5    80  0  G7NKS IO92 27         
202400  17  14  1.1   -49  0  M0BMU IO91 33

73 Dave G3YMC

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Only one decode,sorry I put in the wrong freq : 136.1 MHz in stead of KHz
(it was late)

0050 -23  3.8 136.101477  3 73 DE N F/AN7LQZ

73

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Hello Gus,
Today bad propagation to Moscow. Yesterday it was much better.
The most good your signal was yesterday at 21.32:

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73
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Hello Jim,

I got you at 2202z on 135.5 dial qrg:
2202   8  0.9   0.556500  0 M0BMU IO91 23
As you can see I had a entered a wrong qrg in the frequency window.
Fortunately upload window was unchecked therefore no wrong spot uplad to the database
has happened.:-)

73
Clemens
DL4RAJ 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "James Moritz" <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 9:08 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: WSPR 137.0k


> Dear LF Group,
> 
> Thanks for all the reports so far. The beacon will continue running for at 
> least a few more hours, although it looks like another noisy night on 136k.
> 
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU 
>


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hello Jim,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I got you at 2202z on 135.5 dial qrg:=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Fortunately&nbsp;upload window&nbsp;w=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>has happened.:-)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73<BR>Clemens<BR>DL4RAJ&nbsp;</FONT><=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>----- Original Message ----- </FONT>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>From: "James Moritz" &lt;</FONT><A =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Subject: Re: LF: Re: WSPR 137.0k</FON=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial><BR><FONT size=3D2></FONT></FONT></DIV><FONT=
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 for all the reports so far.=20
The beacon will continue running for at <BR>&gt; least a few more hour=
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Good morning Jim, Markus, LF!

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73 Andrey

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Good evening Steve,

    well, well, you make me blush... there are a lot of other very good programs
capable of displaying QRSS. Maybe Argo has the merit of having been the first,
so it got more widespread. And thanks for the report of 136kHz activity in VK,
though I don't think I have any hope to be able to receive one of those stations.

If you are interested in SDR, keep an eye on my soft_radio Yahoo list, maybe
in Q1 next year there will be an announcement about a new program.

All the best

73  Alberto  I2PHD
---------------------------------------

VK2ZTO wrote:
> G'day Alberto,
> 
> Nice to hear from you again too.
> 
> As you may know, we here in VK have been granted access to 136kHz this year, 
> albeit by way of a sort of NOV.    Almost all of the active VK LF stations 
> are using your excellent QRSS viewer ARGO.   So, once again, thank you for 
> providing this.
> 
> LF reception highlights for me using ARGO have been the signals from ZL 
> (ZL3JE) on 137.900kHz, various intra-VK transmissions, daytime reception of 
> a ZL NDB carrier using 120s mode on 214kHz (distance 2000km) and, recently, 
> reception of Mori's (JH1GVY) QRSS120 beacon on 137777.4Hz from JA (8000km) 
> from his balloon antenna.    Despite the usual background noise from the 
> jaded "pooh-poohers" and "dunbefores" I derive a lot of enjoyment out of 
> these activities.
> 
> The enjoyment derived from these would not be possible without your 
> software.
> 
> Along with your other software you have made a positive contribution to our 
> hobby and (I apologise for using an 'F' word) raised the level of FUN for a 
> lot of operators.
> 
> Sorry to embarass you with this paean, but to not acknowledge such 
> contributions would be small-minded in the extreme.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 73 Steve 
> 
> 
> 
> .
> 



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Hello Lubos, LF
OK! Mayby tomorrow (29 September ) about 19:00 UTC ?
--
Vy 73!
Marcin SQ2BXI



Hello Marcin, LF!
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let me know, please.
I hope you are successful in CQWW_RTTY!

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

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> From: bxi@go2.pl
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> Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 10:50:44 +0200
> Subject: LF: Re: HF70W
>
> Dear Nicolas, Lubos, Henny and LF
>
> Thank for HF70W raports.
> Next station activity friday and saturday.
>
> I sleep after CQ WW RTTY Contest :-)
> --
> Vy 73!
> Marcin SQ2BXI
>
>
>
> Hello Marcin,strong tonight.
>
>
> F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP
>
> RX : Icom IC7400
> Ant: Wellbrook LFL 1010
> http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/
>



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Lubos,

>1.503925

you may want to check your indicated frequency.

73
Clemens
DL4RAJ
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  Hello LF!

  2240  -5  1.1   1.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 33
  2240 -25  0.4   1.503950  0 M0LMH IO93 20
  2244 -24  0.9   1.503911  0 G4WGT IO83 27

  Lubos, OK2BVG


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Hello,LF,
Capture UA4WPF
Henny pa3cpm
best 73s
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Hello Gus, LF!

The signal of  SM6BHZ in the best time :

2248   1  0.9   1.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
2252   3  1.0   1.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
2300   6  0.9   1.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
2306   2  1.0   1.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30

I saw ED6TBF also:

0022 -20  5.0   1.504001  2 ED6TBF (BadMsg)

73!

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Hello Gus, LF!<br><br>The signal of&nbsp; SM6BHZ in the best time :<br><br>2248&nbsp;&nbsp; 1&nbsp; 0.9&nbsp;&nbsp; 1.503925&nbsp; 0 SM6BHZ JO57 30<br>2252&nbsp;&nbsp; 3&nbsp; 1.0&nbsp;&nbsp; 1.503925&nbsp; 0 SM6BHZ JO57 30<br><b>2300&nbsp;&nbsp; 6&nbsp; 0.9&nbsp;&nbsp; 1.503925&nbsp; 0 SM6BHZ JO57 30</b><br>2306&nbsp;&nbsp; 2&nbsp; 1.0&nbsp;&nbsp; 1.503925&nbsp; 0 SM6BHZ JO57 30<br><br>I saw ED6TBF also:<br><br>0022 -20&nbsp; 5.0&nbsp;&nbsp; 1.504001&nbsp; 2 ED6TBF (BadMsg)<br><br>73!<br><br>Lubos, OK2BVG<br><br /><hr />Ve službě Windows Live můžete uspořádat, upravit a <a href='http://www.microsoft.com/cze/windows/windowslive/products/photo-gallery-edit.aspx' target='_new'>sdílet své fotografie.</a></body>
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Hi Jean-Pierre & LF agn!
Yep, condx are very good!
I was surprised last night!
I'm put the screenshots from all night into QRSS-90 mode and half of 
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http://qrss.nm.ru/136.html

73!
Roman

* "\"Jean-Pierre MĂŠrĂŠ (F1AFJ)\"" <jpm.f1afj@online.fr> [Sun, 06 Sep 2009 
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> Hi  Roman ,
> Tnx , good conditions !
> 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj
>
> Roman RW3ADB a ĂŠcrit :
> > Hello Jean-Pierre & LF!
> > It was an UA4WPF beacon.He was visible very good during the last 
night
> > into my grabber in Moscow.
> > http://rw3adb.narod.ru/2009/5sep2009_UA4WPF/137.07W_90_00009.jpg
> > http://rw3adb.narod.ru/2009/5sep2009_UA4WPF/137.07W_120_00002.jpg
> > Was traced onto your grabber and DF6NM too.
> >
> > * "\"Jean-Pierre MĂŠrĂŠ (F1AFJ)\"" <jpm.f1afj@online.fr> [Sun, 06 Sep
> > 2009 13:59:27 +0200]:
> >> Ok Andrey , Tnx for info
> >>
> >> 73 Jean-Pierre
> >>
> >> Andrey rn3agc a ĂŠcrit :
> >> > Hi Jean-Pierre,
> >> > It, probably, was beacon UA4WPF.
> >> >
> >> > 73
> >> > Andrey
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> Hello LF ,
> >> >>
> >> >> My antenna was in directection of the USA , I raised of the 
traces
> > on
> >> >> 137777. 2 , I suppose that it is ACG in beaconning !
> >> >>
> >> >> 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Roman RW3ADB.
> >
> >
> >
>




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=D1aprice of the prop on 500 today... (((
I'v do not got any traces in Moscow today.
WSPR is clear after 1h.
Dial 502.4 and looking around 503.5 in argo up to sunrise.
73!
Roman


* Roman RW3ADB <rw3adb@rambler.ru> [Wed, 09 Sep 2009 02:50:56 +0400]:
> Hi Jim, LF!
> Inside my side band, but no WOLF prog- argo running now.
> Roman
>
>
> * James Moritz <james.moritz@btopenworld.com> [Tue, 8 Sep 2009=20
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> +0100]:
> > Dear LF Group,
> >
> > I am now running a "standard" WOLF 10 mode beacon on 503.500kHz for
> the
> > next
> > few hours. Any reports would be very welcome. Information and=20
software
> > downloads can be found at
> > http://freenet-homepage.de/dl4yhf/wolf/index.html.
> > The beacon may shut down from time to time, because the signal seems
> to
> > scramble my ADSL modem...
> >
> > Cheers, Jim Moritz
> > 73 de M0BMU
> >
> >
>
>
>
>



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* Marcin <bxi@go2.pl> [Mon, 14 Sep 2009 21:34:28 +0200]:
> Dear Roman, Gus, LF
> In Gdansk today SM6BHZ WSPR signal +2dB.
> And I am interested crosband qso.

Let's try to find an correspondent with TX on 503Kc and receiver on 
40/80m QRV! -)

> > Hi LF!
> >
> > Looking SM6BHZ WSPR -19 now.
> >
> > Somebody interesting to make an x-band 503 kHz/40 or 80m today?
> >
> > --
> > Roman RW3ADB.
> >
>




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On 5 Sep 2009 at 20:56, James Moritz wrote:

> Dear LF Group,
> 
> The WSPR beacon is now running again on 503.975kHz (502.4kHz "dial
> frequency"). Any reports would be very welcome.
> 
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU 
> 
> 

Well I seem to be copying something, but no decode of you Jim...

2012 -10  2.1   0.504019  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2022  -3  1.7   0.503978  0 G4WGT IO83 27
2026 -10  1.8   0.504022  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2034  -8  2.2   0.503923  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2038 -12  1.8   0.503922  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2044 -12  2.1   0.503920 -1 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2048 -12  1.9   0.503919 -1 SM6BHZ JO57 40

Don't pay much attention to the frequencies as I had been playing about 
a bit. Also not sure what frequencies Gus and Gary are actually on - I 
thought Gus was just above 504 but it seems Jim is a bit higher up, so 
I guess Gus has moved down below now.

OK, switching off for tonight...

73 Dave G3YMC

http://www.davesergeant.com



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Hello Warren,LF
Capture XGJ,
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Best 73s
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Warren,

Static is still very high here.  Nothing detected from you on Sunday eveni=
ng.  I will try later in the week, but tonight (Monday) is not possible.

73
John F5VLF

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On 25/09/2009 at 16:40 Warren Ziegler wrote:

>John,
>
>   XGJ  is on 137.7798 here but sunset is not until 22:30 UTC.
>
>--=20
>73 Warren K2ORS
>                WD2XGJ
>                WD2XSH/23
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>                WE2XGR/1
>
>On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 3:29 PM, John RABSON <john.rabson@numeo.fr> wrote=
:
>> At 1928z.
>>
>> F5VLF
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>>
>>
>>





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JIm,

I think you  find that is  caused by 50 hz mains hum .... may be a hum loop 
in the  audio system / pc-tx earthling , not likely to  be psu problem as 
frequency is 50 (fund)  and 150 ( 3 rd harm)

I had a similar problem with my  valve HF set , that was a slight  ripple on 
the PA  HT line caused by the  100% duty cycle of wspr, not part of the 
design criteria for  ssb/cw , caused  spots to appear +/-  100  Hz due to 
the  full wave  rectification in the  psu

G .

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>
> Dear Jim, LF Group,
>
>
>> Me too.  I am getting 3 traces (!) from Jim M (he is 9+10 and audible!)
>> and
>> a biggish one from Gus too
>
> I am seeing low-level (about -25dB) sidebands on your signal  at +/-50Hz 
> and
> +/-150Hz, which are giving rise to the extra spots.  I think something
> similar is happening when you receive my signal. I am not getting similar
> multiple spots from other nearby stations, nor am I seeing the same
> sidebands on other strong signals, so I think they must originate in your
> station somewhere - possibly audio being affected by mains noise, or some
> sort of residual FM of an oscillator in your rig?
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
>
>



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Dear Dave, LF Group,

There seem to be some misunderstandings here...

The little box with the receiver noise level is there so you can set the 
gain controls to a reasonable level where the incoming audio is well above 
the noise level of the sound card, but well below overload level. 0dB is 
what K1JT has settled on as an optimum level, but quite wide deviations from 
that (say +/- 10dB or more) will not have much effect on the decoding 
process, or the reported SNR of the signal. In fact, even if the overload 
level is reached on noise peaks, it still makes little difference provided 
it only occurs a reasonably small proportion of the time.

The reported SNR is obtained by measuring the level of each WSPR signal 
during the 2 minute period, measuring the associated noise level during the 
same period, and calculating the dB ratio. Thus it is largely independent of 
the actual receiver or sound card gain settings, and gain can be varied 
through many dB (see above) without significantly changing the SNR reports.

So there is no direct connection between the receiver output level and the 
SNR figures.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU


----- Original Message ----- 
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Subject: LF: Re: s/n shown by wspr .... what is it actually showing ?


> In the ideal case of course you have just receiver noise as your
> background noise level. So you adjust your sound card input to give you
> the magic 0dB on that. During the night the static crash level will
> rise and push the S-meter to s9 at times. Every 15 minutes G4JNT will
> do its one minute of transmission on 503.7 at various power levels and
> push the little thing in the box well into the red. So one has to ask
> oneself what exactly the dB figures in reports really mean.... 



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Jim, LF group

<2 cents>

If T/A is of interest it seems like a three frequency slot system would be 
benificial.

slot 1) EU beacons (not attempting a QSO)

slot 2) USA beacons (not attempting a QSO)

slot 3) EU/USA stations attempting a QSO on the same frequency (for 
convenience in digital modes)

Slots 1 and 2 should not be combined as 'local' interference will preclude 
reception of T/A. A similar three slot system could be used for cw, although 
operating 'split' on cw is less of a problem than on the digital modes.

The WD2XSH bandplan eats up large chunks of spectrum by unnecessarily 
handing out frequency allocations to all stations. Past performance within 
the XSH group has shown that some never got on the air and many others 
haven't been on the air in years. Only a very few stations are regularly 
active. We would be better served by an 'open' frequency slot system as 
outlined above. It doesn't appear the WE2XGR station will be following the 
XSH band plan as currently laid out.

</2 cents>

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2



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> Sorry, pressed "send" too soon by accident!
>
> Dear Graham, LF Group,
>
>> As the  European allocation looks to  be  wider than the  Uk, are we 
>> expecting the  UK 3 Khz  allocation to  remain as is, if  and when the 
>> band is formalised ?, in which case loosing 200 hz may not be the  most 
>> sensible option ...
>
> As I understand it, there are not yet any formal Europe-wide proposals, 
> just what individual regulators have allocated on a case-by-case basis. I 
> think G, EI, and ON have all allocated 501 - 504. The DL beacons and 
> OK0EMW are licenced to use spot frequencies around 505kHz. Gus SM6BHZ 
> would be able to use 504.0 - 504.1kHz.
>
> But the main thing is whether we over here should transmit around 504kHz 
> as we are now, or shift to near 501kHz to share a common WSPR segment with 
> the US. On one hand, keeping to near 504k would have the advantage of no 
> strong signals in band for those trying to receive US stations. But on the 
> other hand, it might mean we get QRMed by "general comms" US stations for 
> those trying to receive us, and anyone wanting to receive both US and EU 
> stations would need two receivers/soundcards, etc.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
> 



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Help! At one time there was a list of Loran lines visible within the 2200m 
allocation but it seems to have vanished. Is there still a source of this 
valuable info available somewhere on the web?

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Hello Marco and LF,

thank's report and info !

73 de Gus SM6BHZ

www.sm6bhz.com

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> SM6BHZ WSPR loud and clear in Italy, JN35sa.
> 
> 195000   6  12  1.1  -895  0  SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 195200   6  12  1.1  -895  0  SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 195400   6  13  1.0  -895  0  SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 
> 23m untuned long wire, Perseus, WSJT
> 
> 73 - Marco IK1ODO
> 
>




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Hi!

My first ever WSPR receptions - by ear...   :)
Whoever it was, thanks for this experience!

Anyway, here are your reports:

13.XI.2009 

22:00:00Z - 22:01:55Z 503,9..  RST559

22:06:00Z - 22:07:55Z 503,96   RST559

22:10:00Z - 22:11:55Z 503,96   RST579

22:14:00Z - 22:18:00Z 503,96   nothing heard

22:18:00Z - 22:19:55Z 503,96   RST559

22:20:00Z - 22:21:55Z 503,88qsy? RST439

break for typing this text, and finally:

22:38:00Z - 22:39:55Z 503,88   RST449


RX homemade simple superhet, IF-BW tonight 750Hz
ANT 10m loop in a linden tree, pointing abt. 80deg/260deg


I have learnt, WSPR sounds like a slightly rough CW and is transmitted in 4min-blocks. Thanks.



Good night!

Dennis 
DL6NVC
Berlin 
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Tnx agn Roman nice qso cul de mal nw lsn for YO2IS ON 7033
MAL/G3KEV

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From: "Roman RW3ADB" <rw3adb@rambler.ru>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
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Subject: Re: LF: NW CQ DX


>* mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net> [Sat, 19 Sep 2009 20:37:34
> +0100]:
>> Hi
>> Roman
>> Tnx O copy report, vy gud condx on 7033 fm Russia pse call again for
> qso
>> mal/g3kev
>
> Tried after every cycle of your tx.
>
> Only trace on 502.7 at moment.
>
> Roman
>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Roman RW3ADB" <rw3adb@rambler.ru>
>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2009 8:23 PM
>> Subject: Re: LF: NW CQ DX
>>
>>
>> > Hi Mal, LF!
>> > Copy you OOO 502.570, but you are do not heard me on 40m.
>> >
>> > grabber is on 502.0 dial
>> >
>> > Roman
>> >
>> >> Now in CQ DX MODE 502.57 and QSX 7033 KCS for xband QSO'S
>> >> G3KEV
>> >
>>
>>
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Thanks Dave.

Please keep listening and looking overnight. I do appreciate your effort.
Should be easier in a few weeks when I get a chance to improve things.

73s
Roger G3XBM

2009/9/18 Dave G3WCB <ganymede444@btopenworld.com>

>  Hi, Roger.
>
> Nothing heard to date, but I'll be listening overnight. Only Jim so far.
>
> 1746 -11  0.6   0.503945 -1 G7NKS IO92 27
> 1758 -10  0.8   0.503943  0 G7NKS IO92 27
> 1810 -11  0.4   0.503942  0 G7NKS IO92 27
> 1822 -12  0.7   0.503942 -1 G7NKS IO92 27
> 1834 -13  0.6   0.503942  0 G7NKS IO92 27
> 1842 -13  0.9   0.503951  1 G7NKS IO92 27
> 1850 -13  0.5   0.503956  0 G7NKS IO92 27
> 1858 -19  1.0   0.503960  0 G7NKS IO92 27
> 1906 -20  0.6   0.503965  0 G7NKS IO92 27
>
> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
>
> -----Original Message-----
> *From:* owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:
> owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]*On Behalf Of *Roger Lapthorn
> *Sent:* 18 September 2009 16:42
> *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> *Subject:* LF: G3XBM's 500kHz QRPp WSPR beacon running again
>
> My 500kHz beacon has just been turned back on again. Any reports or
> screenshots would be appreciated.  It would be lovely to have some reports
> from a few new stations too and I'd just love to get >100kms with the
> current QRP set-up.
>
> 73s
> Roger
> --
> -------------------------------------------------------------
> http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/
> http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
> G3XBM    GQRP 1678      ISWL G11088
>
>


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Thanks Dave.<br><br>Please keep listening and looking overnight. I do appr=
eciate your effort. Should be easier in a few weeks when I get a chance to=
 improve things.<br><br>73s<br>Roger G3XBM<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quot=
e">
2009/9/18 Dave G3WCB <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ganymede444@b=
topenworld.com">ganymede444@btopenworld.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote=
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<div>
<div><span><font color=3D"#0000ff" face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Hi,=20
Roger.</font></span></div>
<div><span><font color=3D"#0000ff" face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"></font></span=
>=A0</div>
<div><span><font color=3D"#0000ff" face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Nothing heard=
 to date, but I&#39;ll be listening overnight. Only Jim so=20
far.</font></span></div>
<div><span><font color=3D"#0000ff" face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"></font></span=
>=A0</div>
<div><span><font color=3D"#0000ff" face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">1746=20
-11=A0 0.6=A0=A0 0.503945 -1 G7NKS IO92 27<br>1758 -10=A0=20
0.8=A0=A0 0.503943=A0 0 G7NKS IO92 27<br>1810 -11=A0 0.4=A0=A0=20
0.503942=A0 0 G7NKS IO92 27<br>1822 -12=A0 0.7=A0=A0 0.503942 -1=20
G7NKS IO92 27<br>1834 -13=A0 0.6=A0=A0 0.503942=A0 0 G7NKS IO92=20
27<br>1842 -13=A0 0.9=A0=A0 0.503951=A0 1 G7NKS IO92 27<br>1850=20
-13=A0 0.5=A0=A0 0.503956=A0 0 G7NKS IO92 27<br>1858 -19=A0=20
1.0=A0=A0 0.503960=A0 0 G7NKS IO92 27<br>1906 -20=A0 0.6=A0=A0=20
0.503965=A0 0 G7NKS IO92 27</font></span></div>
<div><span><font color=3D"#0000ff" face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"></font></span=
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<div><span><font color=3D"#0000ff" face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">73,=20
Dave G3WCB IO91RM</font></span></div>
<blockquote>
  <div dir=3D"ltr" align=3D"left"><font face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2">-----Or=
iginal Message-----<br><b>From:</b>=20
  <a href=3D"mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" target=3D"_blank">=
owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a>=20
  [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" target=3D"=
_blank">owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a>]<b>On Behalf Of </b>Roger=
=20
  Lapthorn<br><b>Sent:</b> 18 September 2009 16:42<br><b>To:</b>=20
  <a href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" target=3D"_blank">rsgb_l=
f_group@blacksheep.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> LF: G3XBM&#39;s 500kHz QRPp=
 WSPR=20
  beacon running again<br><br></font></div>My 500kHz beacon has just been=
 turned=20
  back on again. Any reports or screenshots would be appreciated.=A0 It wo=
uld=20
  be lovely to have some reports from a few new stations too and I&#39;d=
 just love=20
  to get &gt;100kms with the current QRP set-up.<br><br>73s<br>Roger<br>--=
=20
  <br>-------------------------------------------------------------<br><a=
 href=3D"http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://g3xbm-qr=
p.blogspot.com/</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.g3xbm.co.uk" target=3D"_blank=
">http://www.g3xbm.co.uk</a><br>
G3XBM =A0=20
  =A0GQRP 1678 =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL G11088<br></blockquote></div>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>----------------------=
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Hi Lubos,

It looks like there is only Gus & me on tonight, thanks for your report.

You can have your decodes uploaded to the WSPR Spots Page at :-

http://www.wsprnet.org/meptspots.php

by ticking the box "Upload Spots" on the program window.

73,

Gary - G4WGT.

2009/9/9 Lubos OK2BVG <bvgbob@hotmail.com>:
> Hello LF!
> I changed my aerials and the results is more better. I just see SM6BHZ=
 and
> G4WGT.
>
> 1940=A0 -3=A0 1.0=A0=A0 1.503951=A0 0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 1942 -29=A0 2.3=A0=A0 1.503911=A0 0 G4WGT IO83 27
> 1946=A0 -2=A0 1.2=A0=A0 1.503951=A0 0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
>
> Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS
>
> ________________________________
> Ve slu=BEb=EC Windows Live m=F9=BEete uspo=F8=E1dat, upravit a sd=EDlet=
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Hello Nicolas mon ami,
Yes, I have a capture, but as you can see it's a bit 'over the top'.=
 This gives you some indication of how strong you were! If I had turne=
d the gain down it would have been a clean line with no background noi=
se.
Nice to see a good strong signal on 137, thanks.
Vy 73.
RX: IC718   ANT: home made active mini whip @ 10m
Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent, England, JO01MI.

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hello Nicolas mon ami,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Yes, I have a capture, but as you can=
 see it's a=20
bit 'over the top'. This gives you some indication of how strong you=
 were! If I=20
had turned the gain down it would have been a clean line with no backg=
round=20
noise.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Nice to see a good strong signal on=
 137,=20
thanks.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Vy 73.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>RX: IC718&nbsp; &nbsp;ANT: home made=
 active mini=20
whip @ 10m</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent, Engla=
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Graham wrote:

> Nothing in io83lk Roger, wspr  or  spec lab  only  decoding  Jim and Gus

Dear LF group,
speaking about treshold  reports....
this evening i have  again big  qrm  so  wspr indeed   goes to thresholds..
2114 -33  0.3   0.503845  0 M0BMU IO91 33
2114 -18  0.8   0.503930  0 SM6BHZ JO57 33
2118  -9  0.8   0.503930  0 SM6BHZ JO57 33
2120 -33  0.4   0.503845  0 M0BMU IO91 33
2124 -11  0.4   0.503930  0 SM6BHZ JO57 33
2128 -32  0.3   0.503845  0 M0BMU IO91 33
2128 -14  0.5   0.503930  0 SM6BHZ JO57 33
2134 -32  0.3   0.503845  0 M0BMU IO91 33

Jim, M0BMU is seen here at -33db
it is my "record" ...
                                        yours, piotr, sq7mpj
qth: Lodz /jo91rs/

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Graham wrote:
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Dear LF group,<br>
speaking about treshold=C2=A0 reports....<br>
this evening i have=C2=A0 again big=C2=A0 qrm=C2=A0 so=C2=A0 wspr indeed=
=C2=A0=C2=A0 goes to
thresholds..<br>
2114 -33=C2=A0 0.3=C2=A0=C2=A0 0.503845=C2=A0 0 M0BMU IO91 33<br>
2114 -18=C2=A0 0.8=C2=A0=C2=A0 0.503930=C2=A0 0 SM6BHZ JO57 33<br>
2118=C2=A0 -9=C2=A0 0.8=C2=A0=C2=A0 0.503930=C2=A0 0 SM6BHZ JO57 33<br>
2120 -33=C2=A0 0.4=C2=A0=C2=A0 0.503845=C2=A0 0 M0BMU IO91 33<br>
2124 -11=C2=A0 0.4=C2=A0=C2=A0 0.503930=C2=A0 0 SM6BHZ JO57 33<br>
2128 -32=C2=A0 0.3=C2=A0=C2=A0 0.503845=C2=A0 0 M0BMU IO91 33<br>
2128 -14=C2=A0 0.5=C2=A0=C2=A0 0.503930=C2=A0 0 SM6BHZ JO57 33<br>
2134 -32=C2=A0 0.3=C2=A0=C2=A0 0.503845=C2=A0 0 M0BMU IO91 33<br>
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Jim, M0BMU is seen here at -33db <br>
it is my "record" ...<br>
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=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 yours, piotr, sq7mpj<br>
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Gus,
  How much power on ssb?
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On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Gus <begu@algonet.se> wrote:
> Dear LF,
>
> this evening i test an SSB Beacon, QRG 508 kHz LSB.
> Reports are welcome.
>
> 73 de Gus SM6BHZ
> www.sm6bhz.com
>
>


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Hi Roman, LF,

The signal on 503.700 kHz you can see on my grabber is the propagation
beacon being run by Andy G4JNT, transmissions are at15 minute
intervals at 0004, 0019, 0034 & 0049 minutes of each hour. The beacon
now runs 24/7.

It has a similar function & features to the beacons running on the
5MHz band (GB3RAL, GB3WES & GB3ORK).

For a full description of the beacon on 503.700 kHz please have a look
at the UK500KHZ group web site at :-

http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/multi-function-beacon-by-andy-g4jnt

Regards es 73

Gary - G4WGT.



2009/9/15 Roman RW3ADB <rw3adb@rambler.ru>:
>
> Hi Gary, LF!
>
> Tell me pse, what is a signal I can see some time into G4WGT grabber?
>
> --
> Roman RW3ADB.
>


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Chris wrote:
> ....and how does 'Jacking up' the antenna increase the ERP?
> Chris, G4AYT.

Chris,LF,

  Presumably by increasing the height one increases the capacity and the 
the radiation resistance and thus the ERP will rise for a given TX power 
and antenna current? One probably also reduces the loss resistance too, 
due to needing less loading L, so the current might also increase, 
leading to yet more ERP for a fixed TX power.

John
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* Gus <begu@algonet.se> [Thu, 10 Sep 2009 22:57:23 +0200]:
> Hello Andrey,
>
> thank's report and info !
>
> 73 de Gus SM6BHZ
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Andrey rn3agc" <rn3agc@mail.ru>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 9:54 PM
> Subject: LF: Re: BHZ
>
>
> > Hi Gus, LF!
> >
> > 1934  14 -19  1.1   0.503931  SM6BHZ JO57 30
> > 1942  21 -13  1.1   0.503931  SM6BHZ JO57 30
> > 1946  17 -15  1.0   0.503931  SM6BHZ JO57 30
> >
> > 73
> > Andrey
> >
> >
>
>
>


2034 -27  2.2   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
2038 -27  1.9   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
2104 -19  2.3   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
2108 -21  2.1   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2116 -17  2.0   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2124 -23  1.9   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2132 -20  2.3   0.503926  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2140 -19  1.3   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2146 -17  2.1   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40


--
Roman RW3ADB.


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K1JT and A1AA certainly appear to report a lot of Dx WSPR spots :-)
I do wish users would eithe rset their callsign / locator properly or turn
off automatic upload.

Best 'real' report last night was > 2000km, a TF station

Andy
www.g4jnt.com




On 20/09/2009, John P-G <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Andy, LF
>
> Many spots last night - here's just one of them
>
> 2352  -6  0.4   0.503851  0 G4JNT IO90 23
>
> And I wasn't even the best DX!
>
> Cheers,
>
> John
> GM4SLV
> --
> http://gm4slv.blogspot.com
> Clousta, Shetland
> IP90gg
>
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<div>K1JT and A1AA certainly appear to report a lot of Dx WSPR spots :-)</=
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<div>I do wish users would eithe rset their callsign / locator properly or=
 turn off automatic upload.</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>Best &#39;real&#39; report last night was &gt; 2000km, a TF station</=
div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>Andy</div>
<div><a href=3D"http://www.g4jnt.com">www.g4jnt.com</a></div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div><br><br>=A0</div>
<div><span class=3D"gmail_quote">On 20/09/2009, <b class=3D"gmail_senderna=
me">John P-G</b> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk">gm4s=
lv@sighthound.demon.co.uk</a>&gt; wrote:</span>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px=
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st night - here&#39;s just one of them<br><br>2352 =A0-6 =A00.4 =A0 0.5038=
51 =A00 G4JNT IO90 23<br>
<br>And I wasn&#39;t even the best DX!<br><br>Cheers,<br><br>John<br>GM4SL=
V<br><span class=3D"sg">-- <br><a onclick=3D"return top.js.OpenExtLink(win=
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>
> Just set up new Ant system, hopefully a lot less lossy so I should not=
 be as QRPppp.  Operating on WSPR 502.4
> =20

1852 -25  1.3   0.503940 -1 G7NKS IO92 23


First time decode !

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Hi Mal

 

I could copy you ok but as the minutes progressed lots of noise here.
Confess I am using pc to decode/encode as my hand morse is not yet up to it
but I am learning.

 

You were clear 588 or 599

 

Thanks for trying and I'll have another go tomorrow poss in daytime if you
are around

 

With best regards

 

 

Jim

 

 

Dr. James Cowburn

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T +44 (0) 1767 600522

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From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal hamilton
Sent: 16 September 2009 20:18
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: Re: RE: G7NKS WSPR

 

James

Your signal daytime good audio copy plus visual and decoding, at dusk it
dropped 10db and was not decoding but visible and good for QRS 3.

Instead of improving after dark it has got worse and the long haul noise is
not helping. If u were using QRS 3 we could work and you must be hearing me
just got a report from EU.

MAL

 

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Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 7:55 PM

Subject: LF: RE: G7NKS WSPR

 

Just trying Mal on CW

 

Will be back on WSPR in a bit

 

With best regards

 

 

Jim

 

 

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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB
Sent: 16 September 2009 19:05
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: G7NKS WSPR

 

WSPR record for G7NKS. Looking for others!

 

1658  -8  0.8   0.503942 -1 G7NKS IO92 23

1720  -4  0.7   0.503944 -1 G7NKS IO92 23

1732  -5  0.9   0.503942 -1 G7NKS IO92 23
1740  -4  0.9   0.503942  1 G7NKS IO92 23

1749  -7  1.6   0.503948 -1 G7NKS IO92 23

 

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor, S.E. England

 

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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Roger Lapthorn
Sent: 16 September 2009 15:48
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: G3XBM 500kHz WSPR beacon back on - any stronger?

Good Folks,

Have made some quick changes to the 500kHz antenna and ground system (now
using my 10m halo and feed now as a short vertical with top capacity loading
and using the 15m long-wire as a radial along with the central heating
ground) and am putting the WSPR beacon back on shortly. Interested to know
if the changes have made much difference. Antenna current is higher so I
hope it will radiate a some more. Reports and screenshots gratefully
received.

On RX, G7NKS is about the same S/N as this morning before the changes. Not
quite sure what this is telling me.

BTW, I know I drift upwards about 50Hz for about 20 mins as the transverter
xtal oscillator settles.

73s
Roger G3XBM

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http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
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p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I could copy yo=
u ok but as the minutes
progressed lots of noise here. &nbsp;Confess I am using pc to decode/e=
ncode as my
hand morse is not yet up to it but I am learning.<o:p></o:p></span></f=
ont></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:=
p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>You were clear=
 588 or 599<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Thanks for tryi=
ng and I&#8217;ll have
another go tomorrow poss in daytime if you are around<o:p></o:p></span=
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yle=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>With best regar=
ds</span></font><font color=3Dnavy><span style=3D'color:navy'><o:p></o=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dnavy face=3D"Times New Rom=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>26 Birch Close<=
/span></font><font color=3Dnavy><span style=3D'color:navy'><o:p></o:p>=
</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Broom</span></f=
ont><font color=3Dnavy><span style=3D'color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></=
font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Biggleswade</sp=
an></font><font color=3Dnavy><span style=3D'color:navy'><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Beds</span></fo=
nt><font color=3Dnavy><span style=3D'color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></f=
ont></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>SG18 9NR</span>=
</font><font color=3Dnavy><span style=3D'color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span=
></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dnavy face=3D"Times New Rom=
an"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></spa=
n></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span la=
ng=3DDE style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>T +44=
 (0) 1767 600522</span></font><font color=3Dnavy><span lang=3DDE style=
=3D'color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span la=
ng=3DDE style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>M+44=
 (0) 7967 300152</span></font><font color=3Dnavy><span lang=3DDE style=
=3D'color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span la=
ng=3DDE style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>E </sp=
an></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=3D'font=
-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial; color:navy'><a href=3D"blocked::mailto=
:james.cowburn@virgin.net" title=3D"blocked::mailto:james.cowburn@virg=
in.net"><span lang=3DDE>james.cowburn@virgin.net</span></a></span></fo=
nt><font color=3Dnavy><span lang=3DDE style=3D'color:navy'><o:p></o:p>=
</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dnavy face=3D"Times New Rom=
an"><span lang=3DDE style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-botto=
m-alt:auto'><i><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New Roman"><=
span lang=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;color:black;font-style:it=
alic'>&#8220;The information transmitted is
intended only for the person to whom it is addressed and may contain
confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended=
 recipient,
you are hereby notified that you must not read this message.<br>
Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking=
 of any
action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other=
 than the
intended recipient is prohibited.&nbsp; Consequently, this email is no=
t
intended to be contractually binding.<br>
If you received this in error, please contact the sender, return the=
 message as
well as its attachments and delete the whole from any computer.&#8221;=
</span></font></i><font color=3D"#1f497d"><span style=3D'color:#1F497D=
'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dnavy face=3D"Times New Rom=
an"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'>&nbsp;</span></font><o=
:p></o:p></p>

</div>

</div>

<div>

<div class=3DMsoNormal align=3Dcenter style=3D'text-align:center'><fon=
t size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>

<hr size=3D3 width=3D"100%" align=3Dcenter tabindex=3D-1>

</span></font></div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'fo=
nt-size:10.0pt; font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></fon=
t></b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;fon=
t-family:Tahoma'> owner-<st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blac=
ksheep.org</st1:PersonName> [mailto:owner-<st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">=
rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</st1:PersonName>] <b><span style=3D'font-=
weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>mal <st1:City w:st=3D"on"><st1:pl=
ace  w:st=3D"on">hamilton</st1:place></st1:City><br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 16 September 2009=
 20:18<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:s=
t=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> LF: Re: RE: G7=
NKS WSPR</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-s=
ize:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>James</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-s=
ize:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>Your signal daytime good audio copy plu=
s visual and
decoding, at dusk it dropped 10db and was not decoding but visible and=
 good for
QRS 3.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-s=
ize:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>Instead of improving after dark it has=
 got worse and the
long haul noise is not helping. If u were using QRS 3 we could work an=
d you
must be hearing me just got a report from EU.</span></font><o:p></o:p>=
</p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-s=
ize:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>MAL</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<blockquote style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid black 1.5pt;padding=
:0cm 0cm 0cm 3.0pt; margin-left:3.0pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0c=
m;margin-bottom:5.0pt'>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-s=
ize:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>----- Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p=
></span></font></p>

</div>

<div style=3D'font-color:black'>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:#E4E4E4'><b><font size=3D2 fa=
ce=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weig=
ht:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span styl=
e=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a href=3D"mailto:james.cowb=
urn@virgin.net" title=3D"james.cowburn@virgin.net">James Cowburn</a>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'fon=
t-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>To:</span></font></=
b><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-fam=
ily:Arial'> <a href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" title=3D"r=
sgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'fon=
t-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></font>=
</b><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-f=
amily:Arial'> Wednesday,
September 16, 2009 7:55 PM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'fon=
t-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></fo=
nt></b><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;fon=
t-family:Arial'> LF: RE: G7NKS WSPR<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Just trying Mal=
 on CW<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:=
p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Will be back on=
 WSPR in a bit<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:=
p></span></font></p>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>With best regar=
ds</span></font><font color=3Dnavy><span style=3D'color:navy'><o:p></o=
:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dnavy face=3D"Times New Rom=
an"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></spa=
n></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dnavy face=3D"Times New Rom=
an"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></spa=
n></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><strong><b><font size=3D6 color=3Dnavy face=3D"Fr=
eestyle Script"><span style=3D'font-size:24.0pt;font-family:"Freestyle=
 Script";color:navy'>Jim</span></font></b></strong><font color=3Dnavy>=
<span style=3D'color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dnavy face=3D"Times New Rom=
an"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></spa=
n></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dnavy face=3D"Times New Rom=
an"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></spa=
n></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Dr. James Cowbu=
rn</span></font><font color=3Dnavy><span style=3D'color:navy'><o:p></o=
:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>26 Birch Close<=
/span></font><font color=3Dnavy><span style=3D'color:navy'><o:p></o:p>=
</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Broom</span></f=
ont><font color=3Dnavy><span style=3D'color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></=
font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Biggleswade</sp=
an></font><font color=3Dnavy><span style=3D'color:navy'><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Beds</span></fo=
nt><font color=3Dnavy><span style=3D'color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></f=
ont></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>SG18 9NR</span>=
</font><font color=3Dnavy><span style=3D'color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span=
></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dnavy face=3D"Times New Rom=
an"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></spa=
n></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span la=
ng=3DDE style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>T +44=
 (0) 1767 600522</span></font><font color=3Dnavy><span lang=3DDE style=
=3D'color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span la=
ng=3DDE style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>M+44=
 (0) 7967 300152</span></font><font color=3Dnavy><span lang=3DDE style=
=3D'color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span la=
ng=3DDE style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>E </sp=
an></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=3D'font=
-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial; color:navy'><a href=3D"mailto:james.co=
wburn@virgin.net" title=3D"blocked::mailto:james.cowburn@virgin.net"><=
span lang=3DDE>james.cowburn@virgin.net</span></a></span></font><font=
 color=3Dnavy><span lang=3DDE style=3D'color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span><=
/font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dnavy face=3D"Times New Rom=
an"><span lang=3DDE style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-botto=
m-alt:auto'><i><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New Roman"><=
span lang=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;color:black;font-style:it=
alic'>&#8220;The information transmitted is
intended only for the person to whom it is addressed and may contain
confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended=
 recipient,
you are hereby notified that you must not read this message.<br>
Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking=
 of any
action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other=
 than the
intended recipient is prohibited.&nbsp; Consequently, this email is no=
t
intended to be contractually binding.<br>
If you received this in error, please contact the sender, return the=
 message as
well as its attachments and delete the whole from any computer.&#8221;=
</span></font></i><font color=3D"#1f497d"><span style=3D'color:#1F497D=
'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dnavy face=3D"Times New Rom=
an"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'>&nbsp;</span></font><o=
:p></o:p></p>

</div>

</div>

<div>

<div class=3DMsoNormal align=3Dcenter style=3D'text-align:center'><fon=
t size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>

<hr size=3D3 width=3D"100%" align=3Dcenter tabIndex=3D-1>

</span></font></div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'fo=
nt-size:10.0pt; font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></fon=
t></b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;fon=
t-family:Tahoma'> owner-<st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blac=
ksheep.org</st1:PersonName> [mailto:owner-<st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">=
rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</st1:PersonName>] <b><span style=3D'font-=
weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Dave G3WCB<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 16 September 2009=
 19:05<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:s=
t=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> LF: G7NKS WSPR=
</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>WSPR record for=
 G7NKS. Looking for others!</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>1658&nbsp; -8&n=
bsp; 0.8&nbsp;&nbsp;
0.503942 -1 G7NKS IO92 23</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>1720&nbsp; -4&n=
bsp; 0.7&nbsp;&nbsp;
0.503944 -1 G7NKS IO92 23</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>1732&nbsp; -5&n=
bsp; 0.9&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503942
-1 G7NKS IO92 23<br>
1740&nbsp; -4&nbsp; 0.9&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503942&nbsp; 1 G7NKS IO92 23</sp=
an></font><o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>1749&nbsp; -7&n=
bsp; 1.6&nbsp;&nbsp;
0.503948 -1 G7NKS IO92 23</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>73, Dave G3WCB=
 IO91RM nr <st1:City w:st=3D"on">Windsor</st1:City>,
S.E. <st1:place w:st=3D"on"><st1:country-region w:st=3D"on">England</s=
t1:country-region></st1:place></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<blockquote style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3D2 fac=
e=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Or=
iginal Message-----<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> owner-<st1:Person=
Name w:st=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</st1:PersonName>
[mailto:owner-<st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=
</st1:PersonName>]<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </s=
pan></b>Roger Lapthorn<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 16 September 2009=
 15:48<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:s=
t=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> LF: G3XBM 500k=
Hz WSPR
beacon back on - any stronger?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<br>
Have made some quick changes to the 500kHz antenna and ground system=
 (now using
my 10m halo and feed now as a short vertical with top capacity loading=
 and
using the 15m long-wire as a radial along with the central heating gro=
und) and
am putting the WSPR beacon back on shortly. Interested to know if the=
 changes
have made much difference. Antenna current is higher so I hope it will=
 radiate
a some more. Reports and screenshots gratefully received.<br>
<br>
On RX, G7NKS is about the same S/N as this morning before the changes.=
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quite sure what this is telling me.<br>
<br>
BTW, I know I drift upwards about 50Hz for about 20 mins as the transv=
erter
xtal oscillator settles.<br>
<br>
73s<br>
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Red box means its either too low (or recommended level) or too high - if=
 the box goes White its in the ballpark but Im told 0dB is opt-tee-mumish

=20

Laurence
=20
> Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 06:54:21 +0000
> From: gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: Re: LF: s/n shown by wspr .... what is it actually showing ?
>=20
> Peter Cleall wrote:
> > a more fundamental question. at the bottom of the WSPR screen a red
> > box has Rx Noise then a -dB number. What order of dBs do you normally
> > see in here.
> >=20
> > regards peter
> >=20
> >=20
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> Peter,
>=20
> I believe you are supposed to adjust the sound level (via external means=
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> John
> GM4SLV
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> Clousta, Shetland
> IP90gg
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Red box means its&nbsp;either too low (or recommended level) or too high=
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&nbsp;<BR>
Laurence<BR>&nbsp;<BR>&gt; Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 06:54:21 +0000<BR>&gt;=
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owing ?<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Peter Cleall wrote:<BR>&gt; &gt; a more fundament=
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GAry, LF

Gary - G4WGT wrote:
> Hi Dave, LF,
> 
>> Dave Sergeant wrote:
>>> 3. You are of course s9+ at this range, and show as bright red on WSPR's
>>> spectrogram. Hardly 'weak signal'. Does the software cope with strong
>>> signals or does it overload?
> 
> I get about 25% decode from Graham G0NBD who is about 35-40 miles from
> me, all weaker signals decode OK. As it is a weak signal mode the
> stronger signals must be a cause of non-decodes.


Graham is often difficult here too though, and I think this is related 
to a soundcard problem at his end. The fact that you're nearer will 
probably just exacerbate the effect.

In general however it does appear that the mode is very good on weak 
signals and hit and miss on strong ones and one suspects that it's very 
intolerant of errors in soundcard sample rate - which is masked with 
weak signals to some extent.

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John



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Hi Peter, LF!

Looking to your freq too!
qrss.nm.ru -> grabber 3 window 500-501.7
3rd window. But SPL... Is not so sensitive then ARGO.
But I hope to see you.

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Laurence,

  What are the times for your local sunrise/sunset in UTC?
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On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 1:34 AM, Laurence BY3A-KL1X China
<hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Chaps and Chappesses. The long haul conditions towards Eu, and for th=
at
> matter probably elsewhere are pretty good at the moment - DCF39 was poun=
ding
> in way over S9 last night here on the Eastern coastal region of China,=
 and
> s/n noise, in a box or otherwise, were getting better and it wasnt hurti=
ng
> my ears any more. Always a good sign. Mid range NDB's at around 1500Kms=
 on
> the otherhand were down a bit.
>
> If anyone wants to shove any mode up the spout on 137 or 500 my way Id=
 be
> delighted to turn the knobs as long as you send an email before lights=
 out
> here at around 1330z.
>
> Its interesting to look at the 500 captures of Gus and see how short the
> opening is at the moment - akin to the ol' gray/grey oblique iono tilts.
> looking at the data the typical=A0fades/peaks are around 1 minute, so lo=
nger
> than I thought, but very deep, but I bet they change when the iono kicks=
 up.
> Slightly short a time for WOLF but Im betting it still overall a better=
 mode
> for long (long) haul than results have shown so far with WSPR.
>
> Laurence, SWLing in =A0OM89UA Tanggu China.
>
> ________________________________
> Lauren found her dream laptop. Find the PC that=92s right for you.

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Jim,

> I would be quite interested to try WOLF again - although it needs more 
> careful coordination with frequencies than WSPR.

And I'd be happy to watch for it. Tonight would be difficult, as we will be getting ready to return home, but the rest of the week would be fine.

John, W1TAG


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Hello Jordan,

Did you get any replies?

73
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On 27/08/2009 at 16:04 Jordan wrote:

>Hello group....
>
>Other than the PAL, MFJ etc., type, are there commercially available 
>preselectors that would tune from 10khz to 2 or 3 Mhz...?  Or could
>someone 
>point me to a homebrewing site..?
>
>Thanks for your time...73...Jordan VE6ZT






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Hi
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Tnx O copy report, vy gud condx on 7033 fm Russia pse call again for qso
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> Hi Mal, LF!
> Copy you OOO 502.570, but you are do not heard me on 40m.
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> grabber is on 502.0 dial
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> Roman
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>> Now in CQ DX MODE 502.57 and QSX 7033 KCS for xband QSO'S
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Dear Henny, LF
Thank you for HF70W capture.
Vy 73!
Marcin SQ2BXI

Hi,LF,
Capture HF70W
Henny pa3cpm
best 73s
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HF70W 30-09.jpg

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Hello Jim,

signal good copied this evening!

73's  de Gerhard  //  DK6NI  (JN59LN)

21:40:34 >WOLF RESTARTED
t:  24 f:-0.527 a:-0.4 dp:102.0 ci:11 cj:256 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
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-----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von James Morit=
z
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 9. September 2009 20:57
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Betreff: LF: Re: tonight - WOLF10 test

Dear Lawrence, John, LF group,

Thanks for monitoring the Wolf beacon last night.

The beacon is now (1846utc) running again in standard WOLF10 mode on=
=20
503.500kHz - all being well, it will be going overnight. Any reports=
 will be

very welcome.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU

----- Original Message -----=20
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Ill leave the receiver on wspr on 502.4, Wolf10 on 503.5 and upload th=
e wspr

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This is the trouble when a station BEACONS all the time. They do not=
 know what is going on around them especially on CW.
G3KEV

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: jrusgrove@comcast.net=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 11:47 AM
  Subject: Re: LF: G4JNT WSPR


  Andy

  K1JT, AA1A, W1XP, W1VD and W1TAG have been watching for EU WSPR. All=
 display correct station information.

  Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: Andy Talbot=20
    To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
    Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 6:23 AM
    Subject: Re: LF: G4JNT WSPR


    K1JT and A1AA certainly appear to report a lot of Dx WSPR spots :-=
)
    I do wish users would eithe rset their callsign / locator properly=
 or turn off automatic upload.

    Best 'real' report last night was > 2000km, a TF station

    Andy
    www.g4jnt.com



    =20
    On 20/09/2009, John P-G <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk> wrote:=20
      Andy, LF

      Many spots last night - here's just one of them

      2352  -6  0.4   0.503851  0 G4JNT IO90 23

      And I wasn't even the best DX!

      Cheers,

      John
      GM4SLV
      --=20
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      Clousta, Shetland
      IP90gg




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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This is the trouble when a station BE=
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AG have been=20
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    <DIV>K1JT and A1AA certainly appear to report a lot of Dx WSPR spo=
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    <DIV>I do wish users would eithe rset their callsign / locator pro=
perly or=20
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    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>Best 'real' report last night was &gt; 2000km, a TF station</=
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dername>John=20
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      LF<BR><BR>Many spots last night - here's just one of them<BR><BR=
>2352=20
      &nbsp;-6 &nbsp;0.4 &nbsp; 0.503851 &nbsp;0 G4JNT IO90 23<BR><BR>=
And I=20
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Ok Dave

Well , it was only just showing at the Birmingham grabber and not at=
  g4wgt who is about  25  miles to the  east  of  me , the  signal was=
 into the  background noise , seemed to  have a long  script , but  ev=
ery time the  call came round  so  did the  noise bursts ,  IO82TP was=
 possible .. but in the noise , you  can rx anything hihi=20
may be it  will return to nigh....... looking at my  page of  random=
 text  i have g3uh ? and  g3vh , the  last letter J looks to  be  corr=
ect . I should of  recoded the  audio on the  pc .. may be the  sender=
 is not  on this  reflector ?=20

tnx - Graham .=20


From: Dave G3WCB=20
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2009 8:20 AM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Subject: RE: LF: CW beacon qrp on 5033 ?


Hi, Graham,

I listened but couldn't hear it at this QTH. But then I have a high no=
ise level due to ADSL hash...

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
  -----Original Message-----
  From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group=
@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Graham
  Sent: 19 September 2009 00:41
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
  Subject: Re: LF: CW beacon qrp on 5033 ?


  Was I the  only station to  rx this  cw beacon ... who was sending=
 it ?

  G ..


  From: Graham=20
  Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 8:37 PM
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Subject: LF: CW beacon qrp on 5033 ?


  Who is  running a qrp beacon on 503.3  ... very low in to  io83lk,=
 some thing about  5 ..? .. watts and a loop ae might of  copied  G0WS=
J but  could be wrong .. signal is just showing at Birmingham ..  not=
 at G4WGT grabber  and  very low in the  noise at Wallasey ..  ..looks=
 like it has  closed ?=20

  Beacon text is very long ... would be better with simple vvvv  test=
  de gxxxx  gxxxx gxxxx   etc as qsb and static kept  knocking bits ou=
t of the  text .... at least it  proved the  rx set up  works !

  Graham

  G0NBD




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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Ok Dave</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Well , it was only just showing at th=
e Birmingham=20
grabber and not at&nbsp; g4wgt who is about&nbsp; 25&nbsp; miles to th=
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..... looking=20
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the&nbsp; last letter J looks to&nbsp; be&nbsp; correct . I should of&=
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recoded the&nbsp; audio on the&nbsp; pc .. may be the&nbsp; sender is=
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>tnx - Graham . </FONT></DIV>
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topenworld.com   href=3D"mailto:ganymede444@btopenworld.com">Dave G3WC=
B</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, September 19, 2009 8:20 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org   href=3D"mail=
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> RE: LF: CW beacon qrp on 5033 ?</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D405031907-19092009><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2=
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D405031907-19092009><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2=
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Dave G3WCB IO91RM</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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  [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]<B>On Behalf Of=20
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heep.org</A><BR><B>Subject:</B>=20
  Re: LF: CW beacon qrp on 5033 ?<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Was I the&nbsp; only station to&nbs=
p; rx=20
  this&nbsp; cw beacon ... who was sending it ?</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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.fsnet.co.uk     href=3D"mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk">Graham</A> </=
DIV>
  <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Friday, September 18, 2009 8:37 PM</DIV>
  <DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org     href=3D"=
mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A>=
=20
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  <DIV><B>Subject:</B> LF: CW beacon qrp on 5033 ?</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Who is&nbsp; running a qrp beacon=
 on 503.3&nbsp;=20
  ... very low in to&nbsp; io83lk, some thing about&nbsp; 5 ..? .. wat=
ts and a=20
  loop ae might of&nbsp; copied&nbsp; G0WSJ but&nbsp; could be wrong=
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  is just showing at Birmingham ..&nbsp; not at G4WGT grabber &nbsp;an=
d&nbsp;=20
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 it=20
  has&nbsp; closed ? </FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Beacon text is very long ... would=
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  and static kept&nbsp; knocking bits out of the&nbsp; text .... at le=
ast=20
  it&nbsp; proved the&nbsp; rx set up&nbsp; works !</FONT></DIV>
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Hello Marcin, LF!
I would like to make a QSO with HF70W. When you will be QRV in QRSS3 mode, let me know, please. 
I hope you are successful in CQWW_RTTY!

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

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> From: bxi@go2.pl
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 10:50:44 +0200
> Subject: LF: Re: HF70W
> 
> Dear Nicolas, Lubos, Henny and LF
> 
> Thank for HF70W raports.
> Next station activity friday and saturday. 
> 
> I sleep after CQ WW RTTY Contest :-)
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> Vy 73!
> Marcin SQ2BXI
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> Hello Marcin,strong tonight.
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Hello Marcin, LF!<br>I would like to make a QSO with HF70W. When you will be QRV in QRSS3 mode, let me know, please. <br>I hope you are successful in CQWW_RTTY!<br><br>Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS<br><br>**********************<br><br><br>&gt; From: bxi@go2.pl<br>&gt; To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<br>&gt; Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 10:50:44 +0200<br>&gt; Subject: LF: Re: HF70W<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Dear Nicolas, Lubos, Henny and LF<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Thank for HF70W raports.<br>&gt; Next station activity friday and saturday. <br>&gt; <br>&gt; I sleep after CQ WW RTTY Contest :-)<br>&gt; --<br>&gt; Vy 73!<br>&gt; Marcin SQ2BXI<br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; Hello Marcin,strong tonight.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP<br>&gt; <br>&gt; RX : Icom IC7400<br>&gt; Ant: Wellbrook LFL 1010<br>&gt; http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/<br>&gt; <br>                       <br /><hr />Předveďte svůj styl pomocí zobrazení obrázků v Messenger. Prohlédněte si je všechny. <a href='http://download.live.com/messenger' target='_new'>Klikni zde!</a></body>
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Hello Markus, thanks
QRB between my QTH and broadcasting station of 90 km.
Power of the transmitter 150(evening)/300(day) kw.
More or less normal reception on 136 khz is possible here
only at night when the transmitter is switched off :((

73 Andrey


> Hi Marcin, Andrey,
>
> nice signal from HF70W also here in Nuernberg tonight.
>
> Andrey: Donebach 153 kHz seemed perfectly clean from here, so it's probably "Luxembourg" intermodulation onto the DCF39 carrier
> which is causing trouble again.
>
> Best wishes,
> Markus (DF6NM)
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
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> Hello Lubos, Marcin,
> I saw traces from signals. But here the strongest
> QRM from broadcasting station to 21z (153 khz).
>
> 73 Andrey
>
>
>>
>> Hello MArcin, LF!
>> Thanks for very nice QSO, I am pleased. Your signal was fine - see the picture.
>>
>> 73!
>>
>> Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS
>>
> 



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Hi ALL!

I will be glad to make a new x-band QSO's!
It is possible for me QRSS-3\10/CW on SW or QRSS/SSB, SSB/SSB.
Sked's are welcome.
Prop from England to Moscow is very good and stable. QSO's season come.

--
Roman RW3ADB.


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Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 08:46:41 +0200
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Hello Warren,LF
Capture one string,
Henny pa3cpm
best 73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hello Warren,LF</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Capture one string,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Henny pa3cpm</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>best 73s</FONT></DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het 
volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:<BR>XGJ 
23-09.jpg<BR><BR>Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging 
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Thanks for the report Jim. Also thanks to anyone else that looked for the signal.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2


 
----- Original Message ----- 
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> Dear John, Jay, LF Group,
> 
> I started a bit late last night at 0124utc (don't ask...), but again got 
> consistent copy of WE2XGR/2 and /3. /2 decoded between about 0350 and a 
> little after 0534 (about sunrise time here), while /3 was decoded between 
> 0124 and about 0300. Most decodes occured within 288s - conditions seemed 
> similar to last night.
> 
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
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>


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Which mode is being used on 137.740 please??
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Dear Dennis,
I just run WSPR beacon, but i can take a break and transmit for you 15 min.
Is it ok if i transmit SSB and CW beacon , 505,5 kHz USB ?

73 de Gus SM6BHZ

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>
> Hi!
>
> After some tinkering I'm surprised: The usual QRM is much lower tonight on 
> 500kHz, DI2AM loud and clear by ear.
>
> I don't like to discuss pro&contra WSPR, but for today, I do not have any 
> WSPR capabilities.
> Would You mind to transmit a 10-15 minute CW-Beacon for me?
>
> Thanks a lot :)
>
> vy73
> Dennis
> DL6NVC
>
> Berlin JO62RM
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Dear LF

I've yet to finish my ant so still v compromise here and hence QRP.  I'm
getting the other 3 received and decoded ok though

With best regards
 
 
Jim
 
 
-----Original Message-----
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Dear Roman, LF Group,

The signal on 503950Hz is SM6BHZ. G4WGT is on 503910 and G7NKS on 503946 
(but very QRP).

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU 




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Roger Lapthorn wrote:

> Hi Piotr,
>
> The first line is:
> 2009-09-10 19:15:05 >WOLF10  -r 8000 -f 987 -t 20 -w 0.0000
>
> The frequency of 987Hz is where (on my RX) Jim's signal peaks.
>
> 73s
> Roger G3XBM

Hi Roger,
ok,  the  sampling rate  i.e -r flag   set to 8000 indicates that  " 
check sampling rate" procedure has not been done ( as suggested by 
others) otherwise
we would see some numbers after decimal point  with respect to this flag 
i know that you are somewhat in hurry due to the  "in the  middle of the 
night plane" so
likely you will do it on the weekend
i guess i will be here  trying to rx  Lf modes so we will se the results
                 yours, piotr, sq7mpj
qth: lodz /jo91rs/

                             


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Thanks Nicolas

It all went a bit noisy at the end, as darkness fell here but was good at
the start.

73
Dave

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Thanks Nicolas<br><br>It all went a bit noisy at the end, as darkness fell here but was good at the start.<br><br>73<br>Dave <br clear="all"><br>-- <br>G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK<br>

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Hi Gary, LF!

Tell me pse, what is a signal I can see some time into G4WGT grabber?

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Who started transmitting on 503.92 at exactly 22:00Z?
Nice signal in Berlin!
vy73
Dennis
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I've powered down at 11.55z to give the Tx a rest and go to the Bedfordshire
steam rally at Shuttleworth

 

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G'day All,

I can't believe why you guys get so steamed up about Mal's comments. 
Surely you know Mal is a troll (internet term - look it up...).

If you don't believe me go to link below - its official....

http://www.warcraftrealms.com/char/7964283

Note the Guild name....

Seriously - Mal has a right to express an opinion (perhaps not in UPPER 
CASE..), and everyone has a right to respond - but just be aware he is a 
troll.   You can rise to the bait or not - your choice.   As a fisherman 
nothing gives Mal more pleasure than a bite (including, I suspect, this 
one).

Mal and I go back a long way - he has amused me for longer than I can 
remember.    So much so I have kept a record of some of his "gems".    He 
has been trying for the Worked All Northern Continents award for years now.

Here are a few of my personal favourite quotes (taking from the PUBLIC 
record, not from personal communications with me old china plate).

 ****Taken during Mal's QRSS/computer/digital bashing stage....*****

"To date all qrss activity that I have seen could be
copied on normal aural cw at my qth. I suppose if one has a poor
antenna, low power and a noisy qth then maybe qrss is the only way if
you must work on 136 khz. Fortunately I do not have these problems.
73 de Mal/G3KEV"

"Qrss is discouraging experimenters from improving their antennas,
receivers and associated equipment to make a normal aural qso. It is also
encouraging nodding off (sleeping) during the hours that it takes to get a
MMM.
OOO, OXO etc
I hope the lazy mans cw will not prevail above 20 khz !!!
73 de Mal/G3KEV"

"Suggested awards for those long haul qso's across the atlantic.

Grade 1......
Grade 2.....
Grade 3  Those using a sophisticated computer generated mode like very slow
cw,...
Good Luck de G3KEV"

"At present it seems to be the TAIL WAGGING THE DOG with the few trying to
convince the rest of us that we should go to psk, lazy mans cw generated and
displayed by a video monitor, or long long dashes on high power causing qrm
to the rest of potential users of the band
Critic/G3KEV"

*****Look familiar ?    Remember this is from years ago.******

*****Then Mal had a conversion....  starts out with lower case qrs and 
builds to an upper case QRS....*****

"Considering the bandwith constraints on both 73 and 136 khz the most
efficient method is normal CW whether it be qrs or normal speed where
applicable.
...
My suggestion as previously stated it to learn and operate conventional
CW and know your appropriate Q codes and use QRS or normal speed as
appropriate.
73 De G3KEV"

"I tried some 60 sec dot qrs last night for a short time around 2330...

The old system worked very well when everyone was on QRS side by side
73 and Happy New Year to all de Mal/G3KEV"

"...or any advantage
over QRS which takes the minimum bandwith of all the modes to achieve the
object on a very narrow band.

the only suitable mode for this
band is CW, normal speed and QRS.
G3KEV"

"Thanks John for the confirmation that my signals were visible and readable 
last
night.  I will be on tonight at the same time 2300 - 0200 approx same qrg 
135.922
khz and QRS 60 sec dots.
de Mal/G3KEV"

"Yes I would like the screen shots please.
de Mal/G3KEV"


So - cut Mal some slack.   He is almost always right - its just he is always 
a few years behind everyone else.

WSPR is just Mal's latest whipping post.    You can choose to be tied to it 
or not....

73 Steve VK2ZTO




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Nice signal Jim,

Just  found AGV  had removed dimension 4 from my pc .luckily not the one 
that runs the  tx ..
something on the  web site about a glitch in agv   fine hihi

G ..

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From: "James Moritz" <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>
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>
> Dear LF Group,
>
> The M0BMU WSPR beacon is running again tonight 0n 503.975kHz (502.4k "dial
> frequency"). Any reports are very welcome. Also a very strong signal from
> SM6BHZ tonight.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
>
>



>
> No virus found in this incoming message.
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> 




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Hi Dave

 

Thanks for reports from Windsor!

 

With best regards

 

 

Jim

 

 

Dr. James Cowburn

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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB
Sent: 18 September 2009 20:14
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: RE: G3XBM's 500kHz QRPp WSPR beacon running again

 

Hi, Roger.

 

Nothing heard to date, but I'll be listening overnight. Only Jim so far.

 

1746 -11  0.6   0.503945 -1 G7NKS IO92 27
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1906 -20  0.6   0.503965  0 G7NKS IO92 27

 

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Roger Lapthorn
Sent: 18 September 2009 16:42
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: G3XBM's 500kHz QRPp WSPR beacon running again

My 500kHz beacon has just been turned back on again. Any reports or
screenshots would be appreciated.  It would be lovely to have some reports
from a few new stations too and I'd just love to get >100kms with the
current QRP set-up.

73s
Roger
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<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> owner-<st1:Person=
Name w:st=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</st1:PersonName>
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<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> LF: G3XBM's 50=
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le=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'>My 500kHz beacon has just been turned back on=
 again. Any reports or
screenshots would be appreciated.&nbsp; It would be lovely to have som=
e reports
from a few new stations too and I'd just love to get &gt;100kms with=
 the
current QRP set-up.<br>
<br>
73s<br>
Roger<br>
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At 1155z.

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Warren,

QRN was 25-30dB above normal last night and you can't turn the AGC off on=
 the HF250, so not surprisingly nothing heard.
Will try again Sunday evening.

73
John F5VLF

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On 26/09/2009 at 08:41 John RABSON wrote:

>Thank you, Warren.  I will try again this evening and see if I can get a
>screen capture.
>
>73
>John F5VLF
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>On 25/09/2009 at 16:40 Warren Ziegler wrote:
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>>John,
>>
>>   XGJ  is on 137.7798 here but sunset is not until 22:30 UTC.
>>
>>--=20
>>73 Warren K2ORS
>>                WD2XGJ
>>                WD2XSH/23
>>                WE2XEB/2
>>                WE2XGR/1
>>
>>On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 3:29 PM, John RABSON <john.rabson@numeo.fr> wrot=
e:
>>> At 1928z.
>>>
>>> F5VLF
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>





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Hi All,
I don't understand some of these comments about critical set up, frequ=
ency etc. I just downloaded the program, connected to the RX and it wo=
rked. Could it be because Jim is extremely strong here? I can tune +/-=
 200Hz off and it still decodes. I haven't worked out if/how it 'locks=
' to the signal. Maybe it would not be possible to receive a nearby we=
aker signal??
I find some of the documentation a bit daunting, has anybody written=
 a simple explanation of how to set the system up properly?
Not sure how useful it would be in reality for a QSO, inclined to thin=
k CW would be the best bet. Seems very limited as is.
Vy 73, Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent, JO01MI.

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Dear Jay, John, LF Group,

WE2XGR/2 was received continuously here between about midnight and 0400utc. 
The time required to decode varied from 576 seconds down to 96s:

2009-09-12 03:05:17 >WOLF10 -r 8000.128 -f 1500 -t 1.0 -d 12 -w 0.0000

t: 24 f: 0.914 a:-0.8 dp: 85.3 ci: 0 cj: 0 K*D4SFHGUW/0C9V ?

t: 48 f: 0.918 a:-1.0 dp: 82.6 ci: 0 cj: 0 CALLV2YD2ZFMYC7 ?

t: 96 f: 0.117 a:-0.2 dp: 79.7 ci:15 cj:385 WE2XGR/2 FN31IS -

t: 192 f: 0.117 pm:87.25 jm:191 q: -1.8 -0.6 WE2XGR/2 FN31IS -

t: 288 f: 0.117 pm:123.2 jm:191 q: 0.2 -0.1 WE2XGR/2 FN31IS -

t: 384 f: 0.117 pm:135.9 jm:191 q: 0.2 0.3 WE2XGR/2 FN31IS -

etc.

WE2XGR/3 was decoded on the second attempt out of two between my getting 
home and John going QRT:

2009-09-12 02:17:28 >WOLF10 -r 8000.125 -f 1700 -t 1.0 -d 12 -w 0.0000

t: 24 f: 0.295 a: 1.0 dp: 81.4 ci: 8 cj: 17 WENJFE9ONA8IO/C ?

t: 48 f: 0.295 a: 1.0 dp: 78.0 ci:13 cj:344 SZ5R3DCTZU8NVD/ ?

t: 96 f:-0.146 a: 0.5 dp: 75.3 ci: 8 cj:233 BTX/IFWE46PRNY3 ?

t: 192 f: 0.107 pm:9.342 jm:629 q: -9.5 -6.4 R*/UUYX O7XT682 -

t: 288 f: 0.107 pm:28.35 jm:629 q: -3.6 -4.1 WE2XGR/3 FN42CH -

t: 384 f: 0.107 pm:58.49 jm:629 q: -0.5 -0.8 WE2XGR/3 FN42CH -

t: 480 f: 0.107 pm:63.41 jm:629 q: -0.3 -0.3 WE2XGR/3 FN42CH -

t: 576 f: 0.107 pm:76.69 jm:629 q: 0.7 0.1 WE2XGR/3 FN42CH -

t: 672 f: 0.107 pm:77.39 jm:629 q: 0.3 -0.2 WE2XGR/3 FN42CH -

t: 768 f: 0.107 pm:90.35 jm:629 q: 1.5 0.5 WE2XGR/3 FN42CH -

t: 864 f: 0.107 pm:95.17 jm:629 q: 2.7 1.7 WE2XGR/3 FN42CH -

t: 960 f: 0.107 pm:119.3 jm:629 q: 3.7 3.0 WE2XGR/3 FN42CH -

t:1056 f: 0.107 pm:126.8 jm:629 q: 4.2 3.2 WE2XGR/3 FN42CH -

t:1152 f: 0.107 pm:129.2 jm:629 q: 4.4 3.3 WE2XGR/3 FN42CH -

t:1248 f: 0.107 pm:129.6 jm:629 q: 4.3 3.2 WE2XGR/3 FN42CH -

Both signals were occasionally visible for a few minutes at a time as a 
faint blur on a spectrogram display, but were not audible at all while I was 
listening. The QRN was quite noisy overnight.

I was quite pleased to be able to successfully receive the two beacons, 
since I have been having problems since the start of this year with broad 
band noise that appears to originate from the broadcast stations several 
hundred meters east of here. The noise can be nulled with a simple loop, but 
of course this also nulls W/VE signals coming from the west. I have now set 
up a broad-band loop/vertical/phasing unit system to produce a cardioid 
pattern with a single null in an easterly direction, which seems to be 
reasonably successful.

Cheers, Jim Moritz

73 de M0BMU



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Hi Gus,

very good condx tonight.
       2009-09-15 19:42   SM6BHZ   0.503925   +13   0   JO57wq   1   DL4RAJ   JN68kj   1035 
176
       2009-09-15 19:40   SM6BHZ   0.503925   +13   0   JO57wq   1   DL4RAJ   JN68kj   1035 
176
       2009-09-15 19:38   SM6BHZ   0.503925   +13   0   JO57wq   1   DL4RAJ   JN68kj   1035 
176
       2009-09-15 19:36   SM6BHZ   0.503925   +12   0   JO57wq   1   DL4RAJ   JN68kj   1035 
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Steve
I am not from Yorkshire and therefore the Yorkshire accent is non 
applicable.
POME = PRISONER OF OLD MOTHER ENGLAND and that is also non applicacable.
We have strayed away from LF/MF time to get back on track What is WSPR doing 
for AUSTRALIA?
G3KEV

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> G'day Mal,
>
> Still reeling 'em in I see.
>
>
>>
>> I have heard a lot worse said about POME'S from AUS sources over the
>> years.
>>
>
> Nah - I'm not a POME-basher, sorry I can't give you that out.   Some of my
> best friends are POMs.    Good bunch of chaps in my experience.
>
>>
>> Glad that I am not a POME.
>>
>
> Don't worry - you are not - rest assured you are in a class completely of
> your own.
>
>>
>> de G3KEV now back to pounding the morse key, 20 metres looks good at
>> present.
>>
>
> I hope "morse key" is not a euphemism.....
>
> As the actress said to the ham operator..."Is that a morse key I see in 
> your
> hand - or are you just pleased to see me ?".... ;-)
>
> Keep throwing out the bait....
>
> BTW - for my own entertainment I have been listening to some Yorkshire
> accents from the BBC.    Don't know whether you are a native speaker of 
> them
> thar parts, but blimey mate, I thought 'strine was hard for non-Aussies to
> understand until I heard a Yorkshire accent.   If you are a native speaker 
> I
> can fully understand why you would prefer CW and emails.    That mode is
> excellent for allowing foreign speakers to understand each other - even
> across counties.
>
> Nice to hook up with you again.
>
> 73 Steve
>
>


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All of 3kms away (whoa DX!!) but I just got my first WSPR report on 500kHz:

 2009-09-13 20:04  G3XBM  0.503908  -6  0  JO02dg  0.001  G6ALB  JO02dg  0
 0   2009-09-13 20:02  G3XBM  0.503910  -12  -1  JO02dg  0.001  G6ALB
 JO02dg  0  0
At least the signal is getting across the fields at the back of the house.
Andrew G6ALB is in the next village. You can see by my report that I have a
LOT of work to do....

73s
Roger G3XBM
-- 
-------------------------------------------------------------
http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/
http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
G3XBM    GQRP 1678      ISWL G11088

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All of 3kms away (whoa DX!!) but I just got my first WSPR report on 500kHz=
:<br><br><table><tbody><tr><td align=3D"right"><font size=3D"2">=A02009-09=
-13 20:04=A0</font></td><td align=3D"left"><font size=3D"2">=A0G3XBM=A0</f=
ont></td><td align=3D"right">
<font size=3D"2">=A00.503908=A0</font></td><td align=3D"right"><font size=
=3D"2">=A0-6=A0</font></td><td align=3D"right"><font size=3D"2">=A00=A0</f=
ont></td><td align=3D"left"><font size=3D"2">=A0JO02dg=A0</font></td><td=
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<td align=3D"left"><font size=3D"2">=A0G6ALB=A0</font></td><td align=3D"le=
ft"><font size=3D"2">=A0JO02dg=A0</font></td><td align=3D"right"><font siz=
e=3D"2">=A00=A0</font></td><td align=3D"right"><font size=3D"2">=A00=A0</f=
ont></td></tr>
<tr><td align=3D"right"><font size=3D"2">=A02009-09-13 20:02=A0</font></td=
><td align=3D"left"><font size=3D"2">=A0G3XBM=A0</font></td><td align=3D"r=
ight"><font size=3D"2">=A00.503910=A0</font></td><td align=3D"right"><font=
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"><font size=3D"2">=A0JO02dg=A0</font></td><td align=3D"right"><font size=
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=A0</font></td><td align=3D"left">
<font size=3D"2">=A0JO02dg=A0</font></td><td align=3D"right"><font size=3D=
"2">=A00=A0</font></td><td align=3D"right"><font size=3D"2">=A00=A0</font>=
</td></tr></tbody></table><br clear=3D"all">At least the signal is getting=
 across the fields at the back of the house. Andrew G6ALB is in the next=
 village. You can see by my report that I have a LOT of work to do....<br>
<br>73s<br>Roger G3XBM<br>-- <br>-----------------------------------------=
--------------------<br><a href=3D"http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/">http://=
g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.g3xbm.co.uk">http://w=
ww.g3xbm.co.uk</a><br>
G3XBM =A0 =A0GQRP 1678 =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL G11088<br>

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I forgot to say the beacon shut down at about 0700utc...

----- Original Message ----- 
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> Dear LF Group,
>
> Thanks to all for the overnight reports/decodes. I also set my RX to 
> listen for WD2XES on 137.577k, but no decodes here - perhaps not suprising 
> considering the level of QRN!
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
>
> 



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Good evening John
Can you give me your conditions of reception in any case thank you for 
control at the moment I can not go below 20w hi ..
thank you again
F8boj Claude JN16WA
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> Still 30dB over and 569 by ear at 1545z.
>
> F5VLF
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Servus Markus!

Thank you very much for the information. The signal is not audible here,
at least not with my equipment but maybe if I switch to a short update
time I could decode it visually.

SchĂśne GrĂźĂe und Danke

Gerhard



Am Dienstag, den 29.09.2009, 12:10 -0400 schrieb Markus Vester:
> Dear Gerhard,
>  
> it's a CW beacon from DF5QZ, operating in a continuous loop near
> 137.14 kHz. Good aural copy in Nuernberg when the band is quiet.
>  
> Best 73,
> Markus, DF6NM 
> 
> 
> -----UrsprĂźngliche Mitteilung----- 
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> An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Verschickt: Di., 29. Sept. 2009, 17:23
> Thema: LF: Signal on 137140
> 
> Hello Group!
> 
> I haven't followed the list very closely recently and so I might have
> missed something.
> 
> Could anybody please tell me what kind of signal is permanently on
> 137140? (Always visible on the DF6NM-grabber)
> 
> It seems to be modulated in some way and I have heard it is WSPR.
> Though I can receive this signal in JN88HL, WSPR-software failed to
> decode.
> 
> Thanks in advance and
> 
> Cheers
> OE3GHB
> Gerhard Hickl
> 



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Jim,

one single spot last night on the K9AY with Perseus SDR-RX:

      Timestamp Call MHz SNR Drift Grid Pwr Reporter RGrid km az
       2009-09-24 02:00   M0BMU   0.137090   +11   0   IO91vr   0.2   DL4RAJ   JN68kj   1003 
107


73
Clemens
DL4RAJ



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Dennis wrote:
> 
> Who started transmitting on 503.92 at exactly 22:00Z?
> Nice signal in Berlin!

Dennis,

I guess that's Gus SM6BHZ using WSPR mode.

John
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Sorry, pressed "send" too soon by accident!

Dear Graham, LF Group,

> As the  European allocation looks to  be  wider than the  Uk, are we 
> expecting the  UK 3 Khz  allocation to  remain as is, if  and when the 
> band is formalised ?, in which case loosing 200 hz may not be the  most 
> sensible option ...

As I understand it, there are not yet any formal Europe-wide proposals, just 
what individual regulators have allocated on a case-by-case basis. I think 
G, EI, and ON have all allocated 501 - 504. The DL beacons and OK0EMW are 
licenced to use spot frequencies around 505kHz. Gus SM6BHZ would be able to 
use 504.0 - 504.1kHz.

But the main thing is whether we over here should transmit around 504kHz as 
we are now, or shift to near 501kHz to share a common WSPR segment with the 
US. On one hand, keeping to near 504k would have the advantage of no strong 
signals in band for those trying to receive US stations. But on the other 
hand, it might mean we get QRMed by "general comms" US stations for those 
trying to receive us, and anyone wanting to receive both US and EU stations 
would need two receivers/soundcards, etc.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU



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No luck last night Roger. Just Jim and Jim. You need to have a go at your
antenna when you get back!



0640 -12  2.8   0.503956  0 G7NKS IO92 27

0642  14  2.0   0.503841  0 M0BMU IO91 33

0648 -12  3.0   0.503959  0 G7NKS IO92 27

0650  15  2.0   0.503841  0 M0BMU IO91 33

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0702  14  2.0   0.503841  0 M0BMU IO91 33

0704 -14  2.8   0.503967  0 G7NKS IO92 27

0706  14  2.1   0.503841  0 M0BMU IO91 33

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
  -----Original Message-----
  From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Roger Lapthorn
  Sent: 18 September 2009 23:01
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
  Subject: LF: 500kHz QRPp WSPR overnight


  Tonight is probably my last chance to receive any new WSPR reports before
I go on holiday, so I'll leave the beacon running until around 8am UK time
tomorrow on 33% TX. If there are any night owls around, I'd appreciate a few
receivers staying on 500kHz just in case you might hear me.

  73s
  Roger G3XBM

  -------------------------------------------------------------
  http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/
  http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
  G3XBM    GQRP 1678      ISWL G11088

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n running=20
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Dear Nicolas, John, LF Group,

Thanks for the info Nicolas - Hope Marcin and co. can get the problem fixed 
soon.

There does not seem to be much happening on 137.7k, so I am now transmitting 
in WSPR mode on 137.530k (136.0k "dial frequency", or 136.1k if you prefer). 
Hopefully, the beacon will run overnight - any spots of  WD2XES or others 
will be uploaded to the WSPR database.

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Hi Chris.

The mode is QRSS 3. i.e. slow CW with 1 dot - 3 sec, dash = 9 sec. I use
ARGO or Spectrum Lab to receive (PC soundcard) and QRS v4,02 to key the TX.
All freeware from various authors. See Dave's web-page for links.
http://www.wireless.org.uk/software.htm


73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor.
  -----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Chris
  Sent: 13 September 2009 16:01
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  Subject: LF: Mode?


  Which mode is being used on 137.740 please??
  Chris, G4AYT.

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Chris. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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mode is QRSS 3. i.e. slow CW with 1 dot - 3 sec, dash =3D 9 sec. I use=
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Which mode is being used on 137.740=
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Thanks Roman - 777 is getting a little busy!  Anatol was a good clear visu=
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Dear LF Group,

Am now QRV in WSPR mode on 503.975kHz, 502.4kHz "dial frequency". Also good 
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seem  to be on exactly the same frequency, so will double occasionally. Any 
reports would be very welcome.

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Dropped to 33% DutyCycle - the fan on the PA had kicked-in and I prefer to
keep things so the fan only comes on for Tx periods in hot weather.

WSPR Power still -6dB

Andy
www.g4jnt.com

this email has been scanned for political correctness by the nanny state


2009/9/19 James Moritz <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>

> Dear Andy,
>
> Looking, well, nominal here...
>
>
> 1206  -1  1.6   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
> 1210  -1  1.2   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
> 1214  -1  0.2   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
> 1222  -1  0.2   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
> 1226  -1  0.2   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
> 1228  -1  0.1   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
>
> ... spots are being uploaded to WSPRnet.org database.
>
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
>

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<div>Dropped to 33% DutyCycle - the fan=A0on the PA had kicked-in and I pr=
efer=A0to keep=A0things so the fan=A0only=A0comes on=A0for Tx periods=A0in=
=A0hot weather.=A0=A0 </div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>WSPR Power still -6dB</div>
<div><br clear=3D"all">Andy<br><a href=3D"http://www.g4jnt.com">www.g4jnt.=
com</a><br><br>this email has been scanned for political correctness by th=
e nanny state<br><br><br></div>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/9/19 James Moritz <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:james.moritz@btopenworld.com">james.moritz@btopenworld.com=
</a>&gt;</span><br>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8e=
x; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">Dear Andy,<br><br>Looking, wel=
l, nominal here...<br><br><br>1206 =A0-1 =A01.6 =A0 0.503850 =A00 G4JNT IO=
90 23<br>1210 =A0-1 =A01.2 =A0 0.503850 =A00 G4JNT IO90 23<br>
1214 =A0-1 =A00.2 =A0 0.503850 =A00 G4JNT IO90 23<br>1222 =A0-1 =A00.2 =A0=
 0.503850 =A00 G4JNT IO90 23<br>1226 =A0-1 =A00.2 =A0 0.503850 =A00 G4JNT=
 IO90 23<br>1228 =A0-1 =A00.1 =A0 0.503850 =A00 G4JNT IO90 23<br><br>...=
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<div>
<div></div>
<div class=3D"h5"><br><br>Cheers, Jim Moritz<br>73 de M0BMU<br><br></div><=
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Dear Mal, LF Group,

Struggling or not, I could consistently copy both the other beacons here, 
and received reports via the WSPRnet database from 17 different receiving 
stations in 7 countries, so not too shabby.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU

>....

All WSPR signals last evening struggling in QRN/QRS whereas they were 
audible here and if in CW mode I could easily have made a real time QSO.
decode was marginal, and then the same old repetive rubbish.
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Thanks for this John. I am not one to give up easily, HI, so will keep
trying until it's sorted.

Unfortunately I have to catch a plane very early tomorrow morning so my
efforts for tonight must stop shortly, but I shall try your suggestion for
calibration and try again at the weekend if Jim or others are on WOLF..

Incidentally, WSPR I found exceedingly easy on this PC - perhaps I was
lucky.

73s
Roger G3XBM

2009/9/10 John P-G <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk>

> Roger Lapthorn wrote:
>
>> Well, easy for some (I can see) but NOT for me. What am I doing wrong?
>>
>>
>
> Roger,
>
> Unfortunately I don't think I can help, as I'm a total novice at WOLF, so
> can't really come up with any quick fixes!
>
> All I did was set the centre frequency to match the USB tuning offset -
> tune low 1kHz to 502.5 and set centre frequency to 1000Hz.
>
> I think pretty much everything else standard.
>
> Looking at my version I see that under "Mode"... I have "Receive Only"
> ticked, "WOLF 10[symbols/sec] " ---> "Normal Speed" ticked.
>
> That's all I've done initially and it worked. Lawrence in China suggested I
> try to calibrate my soundcard, so I followed his suggestion.
>
> I know, as has been discussed before, that WSPR is often touchy about
> soundcard sampling rates and string signals.
>
> Don't know if WOLF is the same.
>
> But at least can adjust for this in the software with WOLF though.
>
> Tune to 197kHz in USB mode. THe Radio 4 carrier should be at 1kHz. If
> you've chosen a 1kHz centre frequency, on the WOLF Config tab there's a
> button marked "Cal" in the receive options area. Press it. It will work out
> a correction factor for your soundcard. I think you're then asked to accept
> the value offerred... do this and then start again. See if this fixes
> things.
>
> As Dave YMC rightly comments - this might be one to try and then forget,
> although it seems (of setup correctly) to be quite sensitive.
>
> Cheers,
>
> John
> GM4SLV
>
>
>
>
>


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Thanks for this John. I am not one to give up easily, HI, so will keep try=
ing until it&#39;s sorted. <br><br>Unfortunately I have to catch a plane=
 very early tomorrow morning so my efforts for tonight must stop shortly,=
 but I shall try your suggestion for calibration and try again at the week=
end if Jim or others are on WOLF..<br>
<br>Incidentally, WSPR I found exceedingly easy on this PC - perhaps I was=
 lucky.<br><br>73s<br>Roger G3XBM <br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/=
9/10 John P-G <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gm4slv@sighthound.de=
mon.co.uk">gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk</a>&gt;</span><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204,=
 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div class=3D"i=
m">Roger Lapthorn wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204,=
 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Well, easy for some (I can see) but NOT for me. What am I doing wrong?<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
<br></div>
Roger,<br>
<br>
Unfortunately I don&#39;t think I can help, as I&#39;m a total novice at=
 WOLF, so can&#39;t really come up with any quick fixes!<br>
<br>
All I did was set the centre frequency to match the USB tuning offset - tu=
ne low 1kHz to 502.5 and set centre frequency to 1000Hz.<br>
<br>
I think pretty much everything else standard.<br>
<br>
Looking at my version I see that under &quot;Mode&quot;... I have &quot;Re=
ceive Only&quot; ticked, &quot;WOLF 10[symbols/sec] &quot; ---&gt; &quot;N=
ormal Speed&quot; ticked.<br>
<br>
That&#39;s all I&#39;ve done initially and it worked. Lawrence in China su=
ggested I try to calibrate my soundcard, so I followed his suggestion.<br>
<br>
I know, as has been discussed before, that WSPR is often touchy about soun=
dcard sampling rates and string signals.<br>
<br>
Don&#39;t know if WOLF is the same.<br>
<br>
But at least can adjust for this in the software with WOLF though.<br>
<br>
Tune to 197kHz in USB mode. THe Radio 4 carrier should be at 1kHz. If you&=
#39;ve chosen a 1kHz centre frequency, on the WOLF Config tab there&#39;s=
 a button marked &quot;Cal&quot; in the receive options area. Press it. It=
 will work out a correction factor for your soundcard. I think you&#39;re=
 then asked to accept the value offerred... do this and then start again.=
 See if this fixes things.<br>

<br>
As Dave YMC rightly comments - this might be one to try and then forget,=
 although it seems (of setup correctly) to be quite sensitive.<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
<br>
John<br>
GM4SLV<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>----------------------=
---------------------------------------<br><a href=3D"http://g3xbm-qrp.blo=
gspot.com/">http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.g3=
xbm.co.uk">http://www.g3xbm.co.uk</a><br>
G3XBM =A0 =A0GQRP 1678 =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL G11088<br>

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night). The spots have been uploaded to the database.

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I'm in the last stages of modifying my beacon to include a WSPR transmission
that will run pseudo-simultaneously with the 15 minute regular one at
503.7kHz

It has turned out to be posible to fit all the code into one controller PIC
which simplifies the hardware considerably - the only downside is that the
PSK31 message length has had to be shortened by a few characters to be able
to get the additional WSPR symbol and frequency information into the EEPROM
area of the PIC.

I've included to option to be able to transmit the WSPR signal at a lower
amplitude than the 15 minute beacon, and the pseudo random timing is
anything but - it has been chosen to fit round the 15 minute intervals, and
preferably not adjacent to them.

Before I programme-up the actual beacon Tx, can I have some suggestion on
the frequency that would be best to avoid existing users, and what sort of
power to adopt, bearing in mind the main Tx runs at about 100 Watts of RF
giving somewhere in the region of 24dBm ERP.  Also some idea of a duty cycle
to use - 50% is the maximum I've allowed for.

Andy
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<div>=A0</div>
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ller PIC which simplifies the hardware considerably - the only downside is=
 that the PSK31 message length has had to be shortened by a few characters=
 to be able to get the additional WSPR symbol and frequency information in=
to the EEPROM area of the PIC.</div>

<div>=A0</div>
<div>I&#39;ve included to option to be able to transmit the WSPR signal at=
 a lower amplitude than the 15 minute beacon, and the pseudo random timing=
 is anything but - it has=A0been chosen to fit round the 15 minute interva=
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<div>=A0</div>
<div>Before I programme-up the actual beacon Tx, can I have some suggestio=
n on the frequency that would be best to avoid existing users, and what so=
rt of power to adopt,=A0bearing in mind the main Tx=A0runs at=A0about 100=
 Watts of RF giving somewhere in the region of 24dBm ERP.=A0 Also=A0some=
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<div><br clear=3D"all">Andy<br><a href=3D"http://www.g4jnt.com">www.g4jnt.=
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* Gus <begu@algonet.se> [Thu, 24 Sep 2009 22:31:02 +0200]:
> To little band with !! :-))
>
> de Gus

500-508 it is possible for AM/FM -)

>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Andrey rn3agc" <rn3agc@mail.ru>
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> > Gus, to you remains only AM and FM to try )
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>




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Thanks John

I will have a look at that ....

G ..


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From: "John P-G" <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk>
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>
> G
>
> Try running the real NTP server rather than Dimension 4?
>
> http://www.meinberg.de/english/sw/ntp.htm
>
> Runs as an XP service and it's "the real thing" rather than a clock
> tweaker like Dimension 4
>
> J
>
>
>
> Graham wrote:
>> Nice signal Jim,
>>
>> Just  found AGV  had removed dimension 4 from my pc .luckily not the one
>> that runs the  tx ..
>> something on the  web site about a glitch in agv   fine hihi
>>
>> G ..
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "James Moritz" <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>
>> Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 9:48 PM
>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Subject: LF: WSPR beacon
>>
>>> Dear LF Group,
>>>
>>> The M0BMU WSPR beacon is running again tonight 0n 503.975kHz (502.4k 
>>> "dial
>>> frequency"). Any reports are very welcome. Also a very strong signal 
>>> from
>>> SM6BHZ tonight.
>>>
>>> Cheers, Jim Moritz
>>> 73 de M0BMU
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>
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>



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Dear Gus, LF Group
This evening very strong copy your WSPR beacon:

2158   6  0.2   0.503951  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2206   3  0.9   0.503951  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2214   7  1.0   0.503951  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2222   1  0.9   0.503951  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2232   2  0.9   0.503951  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2236  10  0.8   0.503951  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2242   9  0.8   0.503951  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40

Maximum signal +10dB !
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Hi Lubos,

I'm using WSPR v.1.12_r1177.
Under bands I choose "others".
I can dial 0.xxx without problems.

73
Clemens
DL4RAJ
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Lubos OK2BVG
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  Hello Clemens!
  My WSPR v.1.12 doesn´t work below 1MHz (= dial frq). It is the reason, why I use dial 
frequency 1.502500. Is there any "trick", how to set 0.502500?

  Thanks in advance!

  Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS


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  Lubos,

  >1.503925

  you may want to check your indicated frequency.

  73
  Clemens
  DL4RAJ
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    Hello LF!

    2240  -5  1.1   1.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 33
    2240 -25  0.4   1.503950  0 M0LMH IO93 20
    2244 -24  0.9   1.503911  0 G4WGT IO83 27

    Lubos, OK2BVG


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Hi Lubos,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>I'm using WSPR v.1.12_r1177.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Under bands I choose "others".</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>I can dial 0.xxx without problems.</FONT></DIV=
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  dial frq). It is the reason, why I use dial frequency 1.502500. Is=
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>&gt;1.503925&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
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Yes, I'll leave the WSPR signal running tonight John.

So far only G6ALB and G3XVL have reported the signal, but maybe the noise
floor will drop during the night and a few more might discern the tiny
signal.  I am enjoying this SO much and wish I'd done this much sooner, but
I only discovered WSPR a few weeks ago.

73s
Roger G3XBM


2009/9/13 John P-G <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk>

> Roger Lapthorn wrote:
>
>> If you could SEE my TX,  "antenna" and ATU you would realise how amazed I
>> am
>> at this report from G3XVL. My antenna is literally 15m of low horizontal
>> wire with about 2m of it vertical, a central heating ground and an ATU on
>> the bedroom table made from a ferrite rod and fed with 700mW from a
>> 2N3906/2N3904. This proves that 500kHz is possible with a
>> *really*minimalist station. I can only imagine what will be possible
>> with some
>> effort on my part.
>>
>
>
> Roger!
>
> Well done - it just shows what can be done with RF and a piece of wire....
>
> Assuming your ERP to be around the ~mW level we might be in with a chance
> even up to Shetland, given some suitable conditions.
>
> I've been doing some tests on 5MHz recently and have been receiving
> stations using TX powers in the milliwat, and sub-milliwatt, range.
>
> I've received G4ZFQ using TX power of 0.3mW at a range of 1061km.
>
> Obviously it's not fair to directly compare 5MHz and 500kHz - at least it
> shows what can be done with really low ERP.
>
> Please leave the WSPR running overnight and let's see what turns up in the
> wee small hours.
>
> Cheers,
>
> John
> GM4SLV
>
>
>
>


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Yes, I&#39;ll leave the WSPR signal running tonight John. <br><br>So far=
 only G6ALB and G3XVL have reported the signal, but maybe the noise floor=
 will drop during the night and a few more might discern the tiny signal.=
=A0 I am enjoying this SO much and wish I&#39;d done this much sooner, but=
 I only discovered WSPR a few weeks ago. <br>
<br>73s<br>Roger G3XBM<br><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/9/13 Joh=
n P-G <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.u=
k">gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class=3D"gm=
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<div class=3D"im">Roger Lapthorn wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204,=
 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
If you could SEE my TX, =A0&quot;antenna&quot; and ATU you would realise=
 how amazed I am<br>
at this report from G3XVL. My antenna is literally 15m of low horizontal<b=
r>
wire with about 2m of it vertical, a central heating ground and an ATU on<=
br>
the bedroom table made from a ferrite rod and fed with 700mW from a<br>
2N3906/2N3904. This proves that 500kHz is possible with a<br>
*really*minimalist station. I can only imagine what will be possible<br>
with some<br>
effort on my part.<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
<br></div>
Roger!<br>
<br>
Well done - it just shows what can be done with RF and a piece of wire....=
<br>
<br>
Assuming your ERP to be around the ~mW level we might be in with a chance=
 even up to Shetland, given some suitable conditions.<br>
<br>
I&#39;ve been doing some tests on 5MHz recently and have been receiving st=
ations using TX powers in the milliwat, and sub-milliwatt, range.<br>
<br>
I&#39;ve received G4ZFQ using TX power of 0.3mW at a range of 1061km.<br>
<br>
Obviously it&#39;s not fair to directly compare 5MHz and 500kHz - at least=
 it shows what can be done with really low ERP.<br>
<br>
Please leave the WSPR running overnight and let&#39;s see what turns up in=
 the wee small hours.<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
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John<br>
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Roger,

I found Wolfgang, DL4YHF, has writting a GUI program to run WOLF 
(originally it was command line only) and it's available here:

http://freenet-homepage.de/dl4yhf/wolf/index.html

actual download URL:
http://freenet-homepage.de/dl4yhf/wolf/wolf_gui_060118.zip

I simply unzipped it and ran the WOLF_GUI.exe file.

I set the centre frequency to 1kHz (the tab "Wolf config" has settings 
for TX and RX centre frequency) and then back on the main tab clicked 
the "RX" button. Tune the RX in USB mode to 502.5000 and you should see 
a coloured line in the center of the waterfall (Jim's signal) then after 
12 seconds or so some decoded stuff should appear.

I can't help any more than that, yet.

Cheers,

John
GM4SLV
Shetland

Roger Lapthorn wrote:
> *Newbie help please.....*
> 
> As I'd like to try listening to the WOLF transmissions people are sending on
> 500kHz, can someone give me a link or two to *suitable software and
> installation instructions *please?  Is there the equivalent of K1JT's WSPR
> software than simply installs and runs? At this stage I am only interested
> in receiving.
> 
> I assume that a reasonable XP laptop and a SignaLink USB are all that I need
> in addition to my FT817, as for WSPR.
> 
> 73s
> Roger G3XBM
> 
> -------------------------------------------------------------
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> G3XBM    GQRP 1678      ISWL G11088
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Dave,

I'm not sure if the  actual frequency error is critical to the  wspr system, 
from the problems I experienced last year with the  system, as the  quality 
of the  received transmission in terms of  signal to  noise was identified 
as the 'only' factor that determined the  ability of the  system to  decode.

As the  data would appear to be' array processed' with decodes extracted 
from a received 2 dimensional block of data, any frequency error is not 
significant, however it was discussed that the  possibility existed that the 
exact time interval of the  symbolisation 'frames' may be truncated by a 
sound card clock running 'fast'

This was proposed as an explanation to the  observed situation, where a 
strong constant  signal, resulting in the  reception of  a full set of  sync 
frames failed to decode, where as a signal from the  same station, 
considerably weaker either by a power  reduction or coinciding with a deep 
qsb fade produced a reliable  decode to the  systems lower  operating limit. 
By off air measurement of the  time frame, it  could be  observed that the 
transmission finished  some 2 seconds before the  end of expected period. 
switching to a usb card and re running the  test, resulted in the  correct 
time frame and 100% decode of a 'clean' stable signal.

The Initial card   M-Audio delta-4  ,  substitute card ADS-rdx-150, 
interestingly I have  used the  44khz AWE-64  isa soundcard for wspr 
recently and where as long range decodes looked to be reliable, Gary g4wgt 
who is some 25 miles , has noted a high percentage of failed decodes , but 
not a total failure as when the  delt-4 was used.

May be (we hope)  later  issue of wspr will have a clock check facility?

G .







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>
> I have been trying to work out why I have such bad copy of WOLF and
> WSPR (on HF as well as 500kHz) and others report it as 'plug and go'
> and came across a page at http://wsprnet.org/drupal/node/336 which
> explains the problem exactly. It seems that both WOLF and WSPR are
> designed for current sound cards which have 48,000 and 96,000 clock
> rates. Mine is obviously from the old stable so has 44,100 etc rates.
>
> For information it is the sound card interface built into the
> motherboard, an ASR Rock K7S41GX dating from 2003 with generic AC'97
> sound. Zilch more given about its spec in the manual.
>
> I did a test using a 40m broadcast carrier on 7355kHz, with the K2
> tuned to get a 1.5kHz tone.
>
> Argo reports it correctly at 1502Hz, pretty spot on
> Wolf (default 8000Hz sampling) reports 1553Hz
> WSPR (2000Hz sampling) reports 1534Hz
>
> Obviously the interpolation works differently for the different
> sampling rates of WOLF and WSPR but the effect is obvious.
>
> Being an older card there is no way it will support the 48,000 etc
> sampling rates natively, and there is certainly no switch. In Wolf I
> can play around with the calibration, but there seems no way to do this
> in WSPR.
>
> At least I now know why I, and presumably others, have problems.
>
> 73 Dave G3YMC
>
> http://www.davesergeant.com
>
>
>



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Hello all,

I am looking for information on the Siemens D 364 selective level meter.
A circuit diagram should be most welcome, but a block diagram should also  
be nice for a start.

Thank you in advance.

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Just had these 2 reports. I am very surprised WSPR can detect these low S/N
levels...

 2009-09-17 08:12  G3XBM  0.503838  *-33*  1  JO02dg  0.001  G7NKS  IO92ub
 46  240   2009-09-17 07:56  G3XBM  0.503839 * -32*  0  JO02dg  0.001
 G7NKS  IO92ub  46  240
73s
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Just had these 2 reports. I am very surprised WSPR can detect these low S/=
N levels...<br><br><table><tbody><tr><td align=3D"right"><font size=3D"2">=
=A02009-09-17 08:12=A0</font></td><td align=3D"left"><font size=3D"2">=A0G=
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Dear LF
Special event HF70W will be activity in night saturday/sunday 19/20
September and 4/5 October.
This friday (18 September) worked on 137,700kHz, QRSS3  from 20:00 UTC.
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Vy 73!
Marcin SQ2BXI
HF70W - SP2KDS Team


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Hi Marcin,
thank's report and info !

73 de Gus SM6BHZ

www.sm6bhz.com

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From: "Marcin" <bxi@go2.pl>
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> Dear Jim, Gus,  LF Group
> 
> In night today:
> 2124   1 -1.3   0.503926  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2130 -30 -1.2   0.503841  0 M0BMU IO91 33
> 2130   3 -1.2   0.503926  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2134   1 -1.4   0.503926  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2140   2  0.9   0.503926  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2146   3  0.9   0.503926  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> --
> Vy 73!
> Marcin SQ2BXI
> 
> 
> 
>> M0BMU very clear at 503.840 WSPR:
>> 
>> 193400   4  11  1.5  -896  0  M0BMU IO91 33
>> 
>> 73 - IK1ODO - JN35sa
>> 
>> 
>




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Hi Roger you are solid copy with me at -25dB, multiple decodes

 

With best regards

 

 

Jim

 

 

Dr. James Cowburn

 

  _____  

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Roger Lapthorn
Sent: 17 September 2009 19:22
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Subject: Re: LF: QRPp Beacon

 

It is currently on around 503.890kHz. Just set your RX to 502.4kHz in USB
mode with the WSPR software and it will find me if at a readable level. 

73s
Roger G3XBM

2009/9/17 Chris <c.ashby435@btinternet.com>

Hi Roger,

Please remind us which frequency exactly it is on.

Thanks and 73,

Chris, G4AYT.




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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
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e solid copy with me at
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t></b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;fon=
t-family:Tahoma'> owner-<st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blac=
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weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Roger Lapthorn<br>
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 19:22<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:s=
t=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: LF: QRPp=
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le=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3D3 fac=
e=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>It is currently=
 on around
503.890kHz. Just set your RX to 502.4kHz in USB mode with the WSPR sof=
tware and
it will find me if at a readable level. <br>
<br>
73s<br>
Roger G3XBM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-s=
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Gus, to you remains only AM and FM to try )

73 Andrey


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QSL UR O REPORT TNX QSO 73 TNX QSO GN DE MAL/G3KEV

----- Original Message ----- 
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>* mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net> [Sat, 19 Sep 2009 20:37:34
> +0100]:
>> Hi
>> Roman
>> Tnx O copy report, vy gud condx on 7033 fm Russia pse call again for
> qso
>> mal/g3kev
>
> Tried after every cycle of your tx.
>
> Only trace on 502.7 at moment.
>
> Roman
>
>> ----- Original Message -----
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>>
>>
>> > Hi Mal, LF!
>> > Copy you OOO 502.570, but you are do not heard me on 40m.
>> >
>> > grabber is on 502.0 dial
>> >
>> > Roman
>> >
>> >> Now in CQ DX MODE 502.57 and QSX 7033 KCS for xband QSO'S
>> >> G3KEV
>> >
>>
>>
>>
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> --
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>


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G/M Gus, LF!
Some better tracks with ssb and cw:

0.9 Mb wav: (cw only readable)
http://rw3adb.narod.ru/2009/25sep2009_SM6BHZ_SSB_CW/2300msk090924sm6bhz_cw.wav

3 Mb wav:
http://rw3adb.narod.ru/2009/25sep2009_SM6BHZ_SSB_CW/2359msk090924sm6bhz_cw.wav

4Mb wav:
http://rw3adb.narod.ru/2009/25sep2009_SM6BHZ_SSB_CW/0228msk090925sm6bhz_cw.wav

4Mb wav:
http://rw3adb.narod.ru/2009/25sep2009_SM6BHZ_SSB_CW/0308msk090925sm6bhz_cw.wav

1.4 Mb wav:
http://rw3adb.narod.ru/2009/25sep2009_SM6BHZ_SSB_CW/0409msk090925sm6bhz_cw.wav

TNX for interesting reception!

Roman


* Roman RW3ADB <rw3adb@rambler.ru> [Thu, 24 Sep 2009 22:56:29 +0400]:
> Hi Gus!
>
> http://rw3adb.narod.ru/2009/25sep2009_SM6BHZ_SSB_CW/2.wav
> CW 438
> SSB not readable at moment
>
> Roman
>
> * Gus <begu@algonet.se> [Thu, 24 Sep 2009 20:18:39 +0200]:
> > Dear LF,
> >
> > this evening i test an SSB Beacon, QRG 508 kHz LSB.
> > Reports are welcome.
> >
> > 73 de Gus SM6BHZ
> > www.sm6bhz.com
> >
>
>
>
>



--
Roman RW3ADB.


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Dear LF Group,

The M0BMU WSPR beacon is running again tonight 0n 503.975kHz (502.4k "dial 
frequency"). Any reports are very welcome. Also a very strong signal from 
SM6BHZ tonight.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU 



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James Cowburn wrote:
> Dear LF
> 
>  
> 
> Just set up new Ant system, hopefully a lot less lossy so I should not be as
> QRPppp.  Operating on WSPR 502.4

I'm setup to receive on 502.4 WSPR for now but am tempted to QSY to 
508.5 WOLF for WE2XGR/5..perhaps later at say 2200UTC

Too many things to do at the same time - 1 RX locked to the 5MHz 
beacons, one on 5MHz WSPR and the 3rd on MF (WSPR/WOLF etc) ....!

Cheers,

John
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Lest anyone doubt the power of WOLF...

http://www.w1vd.com/capture/XGR3091209.jpg

This reception of WE2XGR/3 was over a 70 mile path. Antenna at the receive end was two 18" clip 
leads directly  into the antenna terminal of the RF-590 receiver...a receiver not known for it's 
great sensitivity. Note there is no trace of a signal in the waterfall and of course no audible 
received signal. This is not a fluke reception. John and I have seen similar results on 137 kHz over 
many years as well.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2


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From: "John Andrews" <w1tag@charter.net>
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> Sorry for the short notice, I sent this using the wrong email account...
>
> WE2XGR/3 will again be running WOLF(10) on 508.700 kHz tonight from
> 2300Z until 0500Z. Reports are welcome.
>
> John, W1TAG / WE2XGR/3
> 



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Dear=C2=A0Gerhard,



it's a CW beacon from DF5QZ, operating in a continuous loop near 137.14 kH=
z.=C2=A0Good aural copy in Nuernberg when the band is quiet.



Best 73,

Markus, DF6NM=C2=A0



-----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung-----=20
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Thema: LF: Signal on 137140

Hello Group!

I haven't followed the list very closely recently and so I might have miss=
ed something.

Could anybody please tell me what kind of signal is permanently on 137140?=
 (Always visible on the DF6NM-grabber)

It seems to be modulated in some way and I have heard it is WSPR. Though=
 I can receive this signal in JN88HL, WSPR-software failed to decode.

Thanks in advance and

Cheers
OE3GHB
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<div>Dear&nbsp;Gerhard,</div>


<div>&nbsp;</div>


<div>it's a CW beacon from DF5QZ, operating in a continuous loop near 137.=
14 kHz.&nbsp;Good aural copy in Nuernberg when the band is quiet.</div>


<div>&nbsp;</div>


<div>Best 73,</div>


<div>Markus, DF6NM&nbsp;</div>


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<br>
-----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung----- <br>
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Thema: LF: Signal on 137140<br>
<br>
<TT>Hello Group!<br>
<br>
I haven't followed the list very closely recently and so I might have miss=
ed something.<br>
<br>
Could anybody please tell me what kind of signal is permanently on 137140?=
 (Always visible on the DF6NM-grabber)<br>
<br>
It seems to be modulated in some way and I have heard it is WSPR. Though=
 I can receive this signal in JN88HL, WSPR-software failed to decode.<br>
<br>
Thanks in advance and<br>
<br>
Cheers<br>
OE3GHB<br>
Gerhard Hickl<br>
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Roger Lapthorn wrote:
> John, if YOU manage to hear me then I really will believe pigs can fly.
> 
>

Unfortunately my RX setup on 500 isn't quite as sensitive as it has been 
in previous seasons. I'm using an active loop - a Wellbrook ALA1530 - at 
the moment. The loop amplifier's own noise floor limits the absolute 
sensitivity of the system. At night this generally isn't a problem 
though, as external noise overcomes this. I've found that best results 
in daytime though are from my vertical tuned TX antenna fed via a 
tuneable pre-amp. The pre-amp has little effect on signals from the 
active loop though, as the S/N is pretty much set in the antenna's 
amplifier stage.

At the moment I have converted my MF TX antenna to use on HF (5MHz WSPR) 
so I can't bring it into use as an RX antenna on 500.

Still, I'm game to try it. I've set the 500kHz WSPR running in RX mode. 
Keep an eye on the online database.

The best time is likely to be well into the middle of the night, so 
please run overnight. I received a few signals from G7NKS, even before 
his recent antenna improvements, using this setup, so let's see how it goes.

Good luck

John
GM4SLV


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Thank you everyone for all your suggestions (direct and indirect).  I have=
 forwarded them to G3TDZ.

73
John F5VLF

*********** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***********

On 25/09/2009 at 15:23 John RABSON wrote:

>LF, Dave,
>
>John Hey, G3TDZ, has produced a prototype of a new version of the cave
>radio which is named after him, and looking for recommendations for CAD
>software for PCB layout.=20
>
>He doesn't need anything fancy - most packages he has looked at do much
>more than he wants and are too complicated.
>
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>For details of the design see his article "A Prototype Cave Radio to Avoi=
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>Any suggestions, please?
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>John F5VLF





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Thanks for the report Jim,  power to the  Ae has been 10 watts for the  last 
hour or so , ran the beacon since round 3 this afternoon, gm4ism and g7nks 
where  on line ... Im still looking for the 10 Hz jump in frequency  on my 
tx , no reason as yet ....also its not showing on the  rx side  ..

73 - G ..

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> Dear LF Group,
>
> Am now QRV in WSPR mode on 503.975kHz, 502.4kHz "dial frequency". Also 
> good
> signals from G4WGT, G0NBD, and SM6BHZ at the moment. I see Gary and Graham
> seem  to be on exactly the same frequency, so will double occasionally. 
> Any
> reports would be very welcome.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
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Hi LF,
Capture XES
Henny pa3cpm
best 73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
XES 25-09.jpg

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi LF,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Capture XES</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>best 73s</FONT></DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het 
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J.B.,

For work at 500 kHz, I'd be tempted to go no longer than 16 frames. I'm 
beginning to think that the fast fades and poorer phase stability hurt 
the build-up of copy. While you may get your first clear copy on the 
31st line, I'll bet that you would have gotten it quicker by flushing 
things out earlier.

That said, 8 lines appears to be too short for any reasonable copy of 
M0BMU here. I used 12 earlier in the week with decent results, and have 
gone back to it.

John, W1TAG

J. B. Weazle McCreath wrote:
> Hello LFers,
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> What are most of you fellows setting your Nr of frames value at
> in the Wolf Config screen?  How important is this setting as to
> its effect on decodes?  Thanks in advance for any/all replies.
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Hi , Henny , Warren ,

Also i copy XGJ last night

73 Jean-Pierre f1afj

henny van elst a =E9crit :
> Hi Warren,LF
> traces XGJ
> Henny pa3cpm
> 73s
>  =20

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Lubos,
thank's report and info.
Nice to hear that you are on stage with your experiment in WSPR, it se=
ams like WSPR is a great QRP mode!!

73 de Gus SM6BHZ
www.sm6bhz.com


  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Hello Gus, LF!
  This is my first experiment with WSPR.=20
  73!

  Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS


  1812 -30  0.8   1.503950  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
  1816 -25  0.9   1.503950  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
  1818 -22  0.9   1.503950  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
  1820 -21  1.1   1.503950  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
  1822 -19  1.1   1.503950  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
  1824 -16  0.9   1.503951  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
  1826 -17  1.0   1.503951  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
  1828 -17  1.0   1.503951  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
  1830 -18  1.1   1.503951  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
  1838 -23  1.1   1.503951  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40


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Hi LF,
Capture RA3YO,
Hennypa3cpm
73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi LF,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>73s</FONT></DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het volgende 
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Me too.  I am getting 3 traces (!) from Jim M (he is 9+10 and audible!) and
a biggish one from Gus too

 

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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB
Sent: 16 September 2009 21:02
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: RE: G3XBM on 500kHz - signals slightly better?

 

Roger, what freq are you on tonight? I'm seeing a  v  e  r  y  faint trace
that isn't decoding.

 

Dave G3WCB

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Roger Lapthorn
Sent: 16 September 2009 18:02
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; M0BXT
Subject: LF: G3XBM on 500kHz - signals slightly better?

Early reports of my WSPR beacon from G3XVL and M0BMU suggest a VERY slight
improvement (2-3dB at best) has been achieved. Let's hope  a few others spot
me tonight. 

73s
Roger G3XBM

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http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
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<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> LF: G3XBM on=
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others spot me tonight. <br>
<br>
73s<br>
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Laurence.
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> From: james.moritz@btopenworld.com
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 19:57:00 +0100
> Subject: LF: Re: tonight - WOLF10 test
>=20
> Dear Lawrence, John, LF group,
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> Thanks for monitoring the Wolf beacon last night.
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> The beacon is now (1846utc) running again in standard WOLF10 mode on=20
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> very welcome.
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> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
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> Ill leave the receiver on wspr on 502.4, Wolf10 on 503.5 and upload the=
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>=20
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Laurence.<BR>&nbsp;<BR>&gt; From: james.moritz@btopenworld.com<BR>&gt; To:=
 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR>&gt; Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 19:57:00 +0100=
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* Lubos OK2BVG <bvgbob@hotmail.com> [Thu, 10 Sep 2009 21:39:07 +0200]:

Congratulations!!!!
OZ6GFO increase your power pse!
Prop is wonderful.

> Hello LF!
>
> 1934 -33  6.5   1.503985 -1 OZ6GFO MF26 3
>
> Lubos, OK2BVG


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Dear Daves, LF Group,

Thanks for the overnight reports - the beacon was shut down at 0925utc here. 
I see several spots in the database from AA1A - the first time M0BMU has 
been copied in the US this season, thanks Dave.

In answer to YMC Dave's questions:
1) I don't know of an actual figure for required frequency stability, but 
more than several Hz drift during a 2 minute period would be a problem. But 
a drift of 1Hz in 2min is small enough. Some of the HF people have problems 
with rigs heating and cooling between transmit and receive cycles and the 
resulting cyclic drift. Using a converter and receiver with seperate 
oscillators will certainly tend to multiply drift problems.

2) I have not so far had much success with internet based clock 
synchronisation utilities, so at the moment I am just setting my PC clock 
against an MSF clock at the start of each session - this is adequate, but my 
PC does drift a few seconds overnight. Having said that, I was being 
received OK by a number of other stations this morning. The transmission is 
supposed to start on each even minute, and have a duration of 110.6 seconds.

3) WSPR seems to have good dynamic range, provided the RX and sound card 
gains are adjusted so that overload does not occur. Certainly, it is 
possible to receive rather weak signals giving just a faint trace in the 
noise on the waterfall display at the same time as strong "red" traces 
occur - a range of 40dB or more. Even if a strong signal does cause 
overload, the randomised transmit periods mean that only a fraction of the 
weak signal time slots will be affected. I have not noticed any problem with 
decoding strong WSPR signals here, although there are not really any "very" 
strong signals.

The "false decodes" occur from time to time, apparently more when 
narrow-band QRM is present. If you read W1JT's description of the various JT 
modes, he has made a trade-off between excluding decoded weak signals that 
contain a lot of noise but could be correct, and falsely decoding noise that 
by chance resembles a signal. In practice, they are not really an issue, due 
to the fact that the callsign is encoded with other information (for WSPR 
the locator and power output) and these would have to be consistent with the 
callsign for the signal to be accepted as valid. Even if the falsely decoded 
callsign is plausible, it is extremely unlikely that the locator would be 
correct, and astronomically unlikely that the same decode would be generated 
from noise at multiple receiving stations on multiple occasions. Using these 
types of criteria, false decodes are periodically stripped out of the WSPR 
database.

A number of people have had problems with strong signals failing to decode, 
on HF as well as 500kHz. We did some investigation of this last winter; 
there may be more than one cause, but one issue is that some sound 
cards/operating systems appear to generate significant timing errors, which 
over the relatively long transmission period of WSPR accumulate to mess 
things up. This results in some receivers failing to decode some 
transmitters. One way to test this is to receive a strong WSPR signal, but 
then after about 40s or a minute from the start of a transmission disconnect 
the audio to the PC or turn the gain down to zero. There is enough data in 
the shortened signal to decode, but less time for timing errors to 
accumulate. If this results in successful decoding, then a timing error of 
this sort seems likely, which could be at either TX or RX. Weak signals may 
decode fine, because parts of the signal are "missing" due to noise and 
fading. So another possible test is to reduce gain until the strong signal 
is just a weak trace on the waterfall in the receiver noise, and see if 
correct decoding occurs then.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU



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Dear LF enthusiasts!

I'll work 2-3 Oct on 137 kHz band from Machta KN97LN (field operation)
I'm not sure abt Internet on Machta ...

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On 17 Sep 2009 at 9:23, Roger Lapthorn wrote:

> Just had these 2 reports. I am very surprised WSPR can detect these low
> S/N levels...
> 
>  2009-09-17 08:12  G3XBM  0.503838  *-33*  1  JO02dg  0.001  G7NKS 
>  IO92ub 46  240   2009-09-17 07:56  G3XBM  0.503839 * -32*  0  JO02dg 
>  0.001 G7NKS  IO92ub  46  240
> 73s
> Roger

Still nothing at all here Roger, there were a couple of very weak 
broken lines on the waterfall but no copy.

I tend to take the dB figures in WSRP with a pinch of salt. Jim, James 
and Gus are quite strong signals and not only audible by ear all the 
time but reading well on the s meter - James 579, Gus peaking over s9 
at times but with deep QSB, and Jim - if it wasn't a row of LEDs it 
would be bending the meter. G7NKS shows between -3dB and -17dB on WSPR 
(with the input adjusted for a correct 0dB on noise), implying he is 
below the noise... I think all that can be deduced is the relative 
strengths against an unknown reference. With the signals heard here 
WSPR7 gives reliable decodes down to around -20dBm and a few gibberish 
decodes at the -30dBm level. I have not copied anything lower, and when 
I do get decodes the signal is easily copyable by ear and a very 
obvious line on the spectrogram.

One point is that with the K2 you cannot set a narrow filter at 1.5kHz 
(a limitation of the tuning range of its IF BFO). I am sure if you used 
such a narrow receive filter the results would be spectacularly better, 
but I am stuck with the SSB filter.

73 Dave G3YMC

http://www.davesergeant.com



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Hi Roman!
There was Request for Gus. :-)
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Vy 73!
Marcin SQ2BXI

> 
> Let's try to find an correspondent with TX on 503Kc and receiver on 
> 40/80m QRV! -)



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Marcin,

thank you for report and info!

73 de Gus SM6BHZ
www.sm6bhz.com

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> Dear Gus, LF Group
> This evening very strong copy your WSPR beacon:
> 
> 2158   6  0.2   0.503951  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2206   3  0.9   0.503951  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2214   7  1.0   0.503951  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2222   1  0.9   0.503951  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2232   2  0.9   0.503951  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2236  10  0.8   0.503951  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2242   9  0.8   0.503951  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 
> Maximum signal +10dB !
> --
> Vy 73!
> Marcin SQ2BXI
> 
>




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Thanks Andrey
What is your locator square?

73
Dave

2009/9/23 Andrey rn3agc <rn3agc@mail.ru>

> Hello Dave, LF,
>
> 2026   -29  0.6   0.503808  G3YXM IO92 27
>
> 73 Andrey
>
>


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Thanks Andrey<br>What is your locator square?<br><br>73<br>Dave<br><br><di=
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Hello Dave, LF,<br>
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2026 =A0 -29 =A00.6 =A0 0.503808 =A0G3YXM IO92 27<br>
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73 Andrey<br>
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Gus  last night...

=20

090912 2024   3 -30  0.8   0.503925  SM6BHZ JO57 40          0  4244    0
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=20

thanks

=20

Laurence in BY3A

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Gus&nbsp; last night...<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
090912 2024&nbsp;&nbsp; 3 -30&nbsp; 0.8&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503925&nbsp; SM6BHZ=
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SM6BHZ WSPR loud and clear in Italy, JN35sa.

195000   6  12  1.1  -895  0  SM6BHZ JO57 40
195200   6  12  1.1  -895  0  SM6BHZ JO57 40
195400   6  13  1.0  -895  0  SM6BHZ JO57 40

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Hello Jim,

received first line of code at 22.40 UTC.

0.2 dp: 99.3 ci: 0 cj:124 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -

73's de Gerhard  //  DK6NI  (JN59LN)

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-----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von James Morit=
z
Gesendet: Dienstag, 8. September 2009 23:02
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Betreff: LF: Re: WOLF beacon

Dear LF Group,

I am now running a "standard" WOLF 10 mode beacon on 503.500kHz for th=
e next

few hours. Any reports would be very welcome. Information and software=
=20
downloads can be found at http://freenet-homepage.de/dl4yhf/wolf/index=
.html.

The beacon may shut down from time to time, because the signal seems=
 to=20
scramble my ADSL modem...

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU=20



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<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"de"></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-gb"><FONT SIZE=
=3D2 FACE=3D"Courier New">0.2 dp: 99.3 ci: 0 cj:124</FONT></SPAN><SPAN=
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E=3D"Courier New">M0BMU IO91VR 2W -</FONT></SPAN></B><SPAN LANG=3D"de"=
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<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"de"></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-gb"></SPAN></P>

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73's de Gerhard&nbsp; //&nbsp; DK6NI&nbsp; (JN59LN)</FONT></SPAN></P>

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--Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----<BR>
Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [<A HREF=3D"mailto:owner-">mai=
lto:owner-</A>rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von James Morit=
z<BR>
Gesendet: Dienstag, 8. September 2009 23:02<BR>
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR>
Betreff: LF: Re: WOLF beacon</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"de"></SPAN></P=
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<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"de"><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Courier New">Dea=
r LF Group,</FONT></SPAN></P>

<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"de"><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Courier New">I=
 am now running a &quot;standard&quot; WOLF 10 mode beacon on 503.500k=
Hz for the next </FONT></SPAN></P>

<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"de"><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Courier New">few=
 hours. Any reports would be very welcome. Information and software </=
FONT></SPAN></P>

<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"de"><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Courier New">dow=
nloads can be found at <A HREF=3D"http://freenet-homepage.de/dl4yhf/wo=
lf/index.html">http://freenet-homepage.de/dl4yhf/wolf/index.html</A>.=
 </FONT></SPAN></P>

<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"de"><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Courier New">The=
 beacon may shut down from time to time, because the signal seems to=
 </FONT></SPAN></P>

<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"de"><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Courier New">scr=
amble my ADSL modem...</FONT></SPAN></P>

<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"de"><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Courier New">Che=
ers, Jim Moritz</FONT></SPAN></P>

<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"de"><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Courier New">73=
 de M0BMU </FONT></SPAN></P>
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Thanks Jim for this observation and others for their feedback.

When I first set up WSPR, in the days when the s/n button did not exist I ran a series of tests where I changed the level into the sound card and looked at the S/n of a single station as reported by WSPR. I found some non linearity and settled for an area on the linear part of the curve. When the s/n button appeared. I found it was red and reading -27dB. I have been running it at this level for several months.  I have been getting decoded reports of s/n between -27 and -9  but usually about 6 -9dB worse than others were reporting.
Last week as you know I tried your sigs on 137kHz and picked up 3 signals each time. slot After the dialogue of the last few days I have  turned my audio down and am setting to  0 dB on the button. Plenty of decodes last night. Now I need to find time to redo my linearity measurements and also compare my results with others reports on the database.

regards
peter G8AFN

Dear Dave, LF Group,

There seem to be some misunderstandings here...

The little box with the receiver noise level is there so you can set the 
gain controls to a reasonable level where the incoming audio is well above 
the noise level of the sound card, but well below overload level. 0dB is 
what K1JT has settled on as an optimum level, but quite wide deviations from 
that (say +/- 10dB or more) will not have much effect on the decoding 
process, or the reported SNR of the signal. In fact, even if the overload 
level is reached on noise peaks, it still makes little difference provided 
it only occurs a reasonably small proportion of the time.

The reported SNR is obtained by measuring the level of each WSPR signal 
during the 2 minute period, measuring the associated noise level during the 
same period, and calculating the dB ratio. Thus it is largely independent of 
the actual receiver or sound card gain settings, and gain can be varied 
through many dB (see above) without significantly changing the SNR reports.

So there is no direct connection between the receiver output level and the 
SNR figures.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Sergeant" 
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Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 9:39 AM
Subject: LF: Re: s/n shown by wspr .... what is it actually showing ?


> In the ideal case of course you have just receiver noise as your
> background noise level. So you adjust your sound card input to give you
> the magic 0dB on that. During the night the static crash level will
> rise and push the S-meter to s9 at times. Every 15 minutes G4JNT will
> do its one minute of transmission on 503.7 at various power levels and
> push the little thing in the box well into the red. So one has to ask
> oneself what exactly the dB figures in reports really mean.... 




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Dear LF Group,

Thanks for all the reports so far. The beacon will continue running for at 
least a few more hours, although it looks like another noisy night on 136k.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU 



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Roger Lapthorn wrote:

> Well, easy for some (I can see) but NOT for me. What am I doing wrong?
>
> 19:19:11 >WOLF RESTARTED
>
> And STILL no decode even though Jim is clear and strong on the waterfall.
>
> 73s
> Roger G3XBM
>
>
>     2009-09-10 19:36:31 >WOLF10  -r 11025 -f 1000 -t 3 -w 0.0000
>

Dear Roger, LF group

when you start the prgram from  scratch  the first line which appears
in the receiving window looks like this:
2009-09-10 19:36:31 >WOLF10  -r 11025 -f 1000 -t 3 -w 0.0000
send  here  "the same" line but from ur rx window . this line gives some 
info about your particular settings
let's  look at it

                                   73 de peter, sq7mpj
qth: Lodz /jo91rs/


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Roger Lapthorn wrote:
<blockquote   cite=3D"mid9afca2640909101311i11534831g528282550dc840fe@mail=
.gmail.com"   type=3D"cite">Well, easy for some (I can see) but NOT for me=
. What am I
doing wrong?<br>
  <br>
19:19:11 &gt;WOLF RESTARTED<br>
  <br>
And STILL no decode even though Jim is clear and strong on the
waterfall.<br>
  <br>
73s<br>
Roger G3XBM<br>
  <br>
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  <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote"   style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(=
204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><br>
2009-09-10 19:36:31 &gt;WOLF10 =C2=A0-r 11025 -f 1000 -t 3 -w 0.0000<br>
  </blockquote>
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</blockquote>
<br>
Dear Roger, LF group<br>
<br>
when you start the prgram from=C2=A0 scratch=C2=A0 the first line which ap=
pears <br>
in the receiving window looks like this:<br>
2009-09-10 19:36:31 &gt;WOLF10 =C2=A0-r 11025 -f 1000 -t 3 -w 0.0000<br>
send=C2=A0 here=C2=A0 "the same" line but from ur rx window . this line gi=
ves
some info about your particular settings<br>
let's=C2=A0 look at it<br>
<br>
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=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 73 de peter,=
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On 01/09/2009 at 20:17 mal hamilton wrote:

>Roger I am stating the facts, someone else mentioned seeing the signals
>on the waterfall but they were not decoding. I could easlily have made a
>qso on cw given the strength of signals whereas WSPR was not decoding, so
>the exercise is pointless.

That was me.  I wasn't decoding because I don't yet have a decoder.  Had=
 I had one, and given the snr I observed, I would have expected 100% copy.=
  On the few occasions I have heard Mal, his snr has not been anything lik=
e as good as WSPR.

John F5VLF



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Hi Gus, LF!
1926 -24  1.2   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
1932 -26  1.1   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
1938 -27  1.1   0.503925  1 SM6BHZ JO57 30
1958 -16  1.1   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2014 -15  1.0   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2022 -15  0.9   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40

Negative copy M0BMU today in my location. It' s a pity.


--
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Thanx dear Dave for this first contact with you on LF band.
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Hi Jim,
Just to let you know your sig last night on 137.72 was good here, as=
 one would expect(!), audible as well.
Nice to see a bit more activity lately on 136/137, the band seems to=
 have got neglected in favour of 500, shame.
Vy 73,
Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent, JO01MI.

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi Jim,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Just to let you know your sig last ni=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Vy 73,</FONT></DIV>
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Hello Dave, LF,

2026   -29  0.6   0.503808  G3YXM IO92 27

73 Andrey


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Roman and John,

thank's report and files!

73 de Gus

----- Original Message ----- 
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> Hi Gus!
> 
> http://rw3adb.narod.ru/2009/25sep2009_SM6BHZ_SSB_CW/2.wav
> CW 438
> SSB not readable at moment
> 
> Roman
> 
> * Gus <begu@algonet.se> [Thu, 24 Sep 2009 20:18:39 +0200]:
>> Dear LF,
>>
>> this evening i test an SSB Beacon, QRG 508 kHz LSB.
>> Reports are welcome.
>>
>> 73 de Gus SM6BHZ
>> www.sm6bhz.com
>>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --
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>




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* mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net> [Sat, 19 Sep 2009 20:37:34 
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> Hi
> Roman
> Tnx O copy report, vy gud condx on 7033 fm Russia pse call again for 
qso
> mal/g3kev

Tried after every cycle of your tx.

Only trace on 502.7 at moment.

Roman

> ----- Original Message -----
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> > Hi Mal, LF!
> > Copy you OOO 502.570, but you are do not heard me on 40m.
> >
> > grabber is on 502.0 dial
> >
> > Roman
> >
> >> Now in CQ DX MODE 502.57 and QSX 7033 KCS for xband QSO'S
> >> G3KEV
> >
>
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Lubos, Victor and LF,
thank's report and info !
73 de Gus SM6BHZ
www.sm6bhz.com


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  Hello LF!

  1910  -3  1.1   0.503927  0 SM6BHZ JO57 33
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  Lubos, OK2BVG




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>>>I have learnt, WSPR sounds like a slightly rough CW and is transmit=
ted in=20
>>>4min-blocks. <<<<<

Dennis , That may  not be wspr , wspr  tx time is  120 seconds locked=
 to the=20
exact time , with the  start time on the  00-00
by sound its like a very  slow narrow shift psk signal .....but it is=
 only=20
one  carrier  changing frequency  with  no breaks in the 120 second=20
transmission

The  software  may be downloaded :-

http://www.physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/wspr.html

As long as the  pc clock is  close it  will decode ok ....if the  pc=
 is not=20
on the  www  , multipsk has a pc clock set  facility  that use the  mf=
 time=20
signals

Multipsk :-

http://f6cte.free.fr/index_anglais.htm

73 - Graham .

G0NBD



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From: "Dennis" <Dennis.Hennig@gmx.de>
Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 11:45 PM
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Subject: LF: MY first WSPR - by ear ;)

>
>
> Hi!
>
> My first ever WSPR receptions - by ear...   :)
> Whoever it was, thanks for this experience!
>
> Anyway, here are your reports:
>
> 13.XI.2009
>
> 22:00:00Z - 22:01:55Z 503,9..  RST559
>
> 22:06:00Z - 22:07:55Z 503,96   RST559
>
> 22:10:00Z - 22:11:55Z 503,96   RST579
>
> 22:14:00Z - 22:18:00Z 503,96   nothing heard
>
> 22:18:00Z - 22:19:55Z 503,96   RST559
>
> 22:20:00Z - 22:21:55Z 503,88qsy? RST439
>
> break for typing this text, and finally:
>
> 22:38:00Z - 22:39:55Z 503,88   RST449
>
>
> RX homemade simple superhet, IF-BW tonight 750Hz
> ANT 10m loop in a linden tree, pointing abt. 80deg/260deg
>
>
> I have learnt, WSPR sounds like a slightly rough CW and is transmitt=
ed in=20
> 4min-blocks. Thanks.
>
>
>
> Good night!
>
> Dennis
> DL6NVC
> Berlin
> JO62RM
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Hello Andrey,

thank's report and info !

73 de Gus SM6BHZ


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> Hi Gus, LF!
> 
> 1934  14 -19  1.1   0.503931  SM6BHZ JO57 30
> 1942  21 -13  1.1   0.503931  SM6BHZ JO57 30
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Hello Lubos, LF
Thanks for QSO Lubos.
73!
Marcin SQ2BXI


Hello MArcin, LF!
Thanks for very nice QSO, I am pleased. Your signal was fine - see the
picture.

73!

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS




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Hello Jean Pierre
Your grabber regularly copy my signal:
http://www.sp2kds.pl/images/stories/f1afj.jpg
Vy 73!
Marcin SQ2BXI

Hello Marcin ,

Tnx for info , my antenna are at QTF 295=B0 (USA)

73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

Marcin a =E9crit :
> Dear Jean Pierre, LF
> It is HF70W QRSS 60 signal.
> Vy 73!
> Marcin SQ2BXI
>
>
>> Hello LF'ers ,
>>
>> I copy on 137,778 unidentified signal ?
>> 22:00 =3D> 23:00 utc ( see on picture )
>>
>> 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj
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I agree with Jay's points.

 I would like to remind all that WE2XGR stations are  authorized for
two-way QSOs with amateur stations
whilst WD2XSH are not authorized for two-way communications with
amateur stations.
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On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 4:02 PM,  <jrusgrove@comcast.net> wrote:
> Jim, LF group
>
> <2 cents>
>
> If T/A is of interest it seems like a three frequency slot system would=
 be
> benificial.
>
> slot 1) EU beacons (not attempting a QSO)
>
> slot 2) USA beacons (not attempting a QSO)
>
> slot 3) EU/USA stations attempting a QSO on the same frequency (for
> convenience in digital modes)
>
> Slots 1 and 2 should not be combined as 'local' interference will preclu=
de
> reception of T/A. A similar three slot system could be used for cw, alth=
ough
> operating 'split' on cw is less of a problem than on the digital modes.
>
> The WD2XSH bandplan eats up large chunks of spectrum by unnecessarily
> handing out frequency allocations to all stations. Past performance with=
in
> the XSH group has shown that some never got on the air and many others
> haven't been on the air in years. Only a very few stations are regularly
> active. We would be better served by an 'open' frequency slot system as
> outlined above. It doesn't appear the WE2XGR station will be following=
 the
> XSH band plan as currently laid out.
>
> </2 cents>
>
> Jay W1VD =A0WD2XNS =A0WE2XGR/2
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz"
> <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 2:40 PM
> Subject: Re: LF: Re: US 500-kHz band plan
>
>
>> Sorry, pressed "send" too soon by accident!
>>
>> Dear Graham, LF Group,
>>
>>> As the =A0European allocation looks to =A0be =A0wider than the =A0Uk,=
 are we
>>> expecting the =A0UK 3 Khz =A0allocation to =A0remain as is, if =A0and=
 when the band
>>> is formalised ?, in which case loosing 200 hz may not be the =A0most=
 sensible
>>> option ...
>>
>> As I understand it, there are not yet any formal Europe-wide proposals,
>> just what individual regulators have allocated on a case-by-case basis.=
 I
>> think G, EI, and ON have all allocated 501 - 504. The DL beacons and OK=
0EMW
>> are licenced to use spot frequencies around 505kHz. Gus SM6BHZ would be=
 able
>> to use 504.0 - 504.1kHz.
>>
>> But the main thing is whether we over here should transmit around 504kH=
z
>> as we are now, or shift to near 501kHz to share a common WSPR segment=
 with
>> the US. On one hand, keeping to near 504k would have the advantage of=
 no
>> strong signals in band for those trying to receive US stations. But on=
 the
>> other hand, it might mean we get QRMed by "general comms" US stations=
 for
>> those trying to receive us, and anyone wanting to receive both US and=
 EU
>> stations would need two receivers/soundcards, etc.
>>
>> Cheers, Jim Moritz
>> 73 de M0BMU
>>
>>
>
>
>

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Should be TXing around 503.930kHz but I'd be *very* surprised if you heard
me Dave!

73s
Roger G3XBM

2009/9/13 Dave Sergeant <dave@davesergeant.com>

> On 13 Sep 2009 at 16:51, Roger Lapthorn wrote:
>
> > However, nothing ventured nothing gained, *I will put this WSPR TX on
> > the air this evening* starting shortly in case *anyone* can hear me.
> > Any WSPR spot reports would fill me with total amazement and delight.
> >
>
> What actual frequency are you transmitting on Roger? As you might have
> gathered I do have a bit of a problem calibrating WSPR and decoding....
> I am running it now, and Argo, and seeing a moderately strong WSPR
> signal but no decodes. It may of course be Gus or somebody else. It
> last transmitted in the 1744 slot and before that at 1736.
>
> 73 Dave G3YMC
>
> http://www.davesergeant.com
>
>
>


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Should be TXing around 503.930kHz but I&#39;d be <u>very</u> surprised if=
 you heard me Dave!<br><br>73s<br>Roger G3XBM<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_q=
uote">2009/9/13 Dave Sergeant <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dave=
@davesergeant.com">dave@davesergeant.com</a>&gt;</span><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204,=
 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">On 13 Sep 2009=
 at 16:51, Roger Lapthorn wrote:<br>
<br>
&gt; However, nothing ventured nothing gained, *I will put this WSPR TX on=
<br>
&gt; the air this evening* starting shortly in case *anyone* can hear me.<=
br>
&gt; Any WSPR spot reports would fill me with total amazement and delight.=
<br>
&gt;<br>
<br>
What actual frequency are you transmitting on Roger? As you might have<br>
gathered I do have a bit of a problem calibrating WSPR and decoding....<br=
>
I am running it now, and Argo, and seeing a moderately strong WSPR<br>
signal but no decodes. It may of course be Gus or somebody else. It<br>
last transmitted in the 1744 slot and before that at 1736.<br>
<br>
73 Dave G3YMC<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.davesergeant.com" target=3D"_blank">http://www.daves=
ergeant.com</a><br>
<br>
<br>
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G3XBM =A0 =A0GQRP 1678 =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL G11088<br>

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G'day Mal,

Still reeling 'em in I see.


>
> I have heard a lot worse said about POME'S from AUS sources over the 
> years.
>

Nah - I'm not a POME-basher, sorry I can't give you that out.   Some of my 
best friends are POMs.    Good bunch of chaps in my experience.

>
> Glad that I am not a POME.
>

Don't worry - you are not - rest assured you are in a class completely of 
your own.

>
> de G3KEV now back to pounding the morse key, 20 metres looks good at 
> present.
>

I hope "morse key" is not a euphemism.....

As the actress said to the ham operator..."Is that a morse key I see in your 
hand - or are you just pleased to see me ?".... ;-)

Keep throwing out the bait....

BTW - for my own entertainment I have been listening to some Yorkshire 
accents from the BBC.    Don't know whether you are a native speaker of them 
thar parts, but blimey mate, I thought 'strine was hard for non-Aussies to 
understand until I heard a Yorkshire accent.   If you are a native speaker I 
can fully understand why you would prefer CW and emails.    That mode is 
excellent for allowing foreign speakers to understand each other - even 
across counties.

Nice to hook up with you again.

73 Steve 



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Dear LF

The past two days have been quite bad for signals I have noticed.  Normally
I get lots of decodes from many stations and now I am only getting Gus.
Also there is a lot of noise on the waterfall trace too.

Still hoping to catch Roger

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-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dave Sergeant
Sent: 16 September 2009 08:38
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Subject: LF: Re: G3XBM 500kHz WSPR tests

On 16 Sep 2009 at 7:56, Roger Lapthorn wrote:

> Hi folks,
> 
> My WSPR beacon is closing shortly. Thanks for reports this morning from
> M0BMU, and from G3XVL and G6ALB yesterday. No others as yet.
> 
> Later today, and before my holiday away, I hope to try a couple of quick
> and simple changes to the antenna and ground that may result in a
> slightly greater antenna current. All being well, the beacon will be on
> again later this afternoon and overnight tonight. Any reports would be
> greatly appreciated so I can compare performance.
> 
> Further improvements will have to then wait until October.
> 
> 73s
> Roger G3XBM

I listened again last night Roger between 1920 and 2020z and not a 
trace of you on the waterfall. SM6BHZ and G7NKS were coming in as 
normal, though Gus's signal seemed well down on what it was the night 
before, mostly down about -10dB with the occasional peak to 0dB (Monday 
he was consistently +2 to +4dB). So maybe 'excellent conditions' to DL 
land but not so to Bracknell...

73 Dave G3YMC

http://www.davesergeant.com




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Hi All,
I think most people are more likely to know their TX power, but then=
 you need to gather more information to make fair comparisons.
I am not convinced many really genuinely know their ERP. A recent e-ma=
il referred to the ERP as a guess! I am convinced some stations are ru=
nning much more ERP than they think/say.
Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent.

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Hi LF,
DI2AM strong
Henny pa3cpm
73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi LF,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>DI2AM strong</FONT></DIV>
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Good Folks,

Have made some quick changes to the 500kHz antenna and ground system (now
using my 10m halo and feed now as a short vertical with top capacity loading
and using the 15m long-wire as a radial along with the central heating
ground) and am putting the WSPR beacon back on shortly. Interested to know
if the changes have made much difference. Antenna current is higher so I
hope it will radiate a some more. Reports and screenshots gratefully
received.

On RX, G7NKS is about the same S/N as this morning before the changes. Not
quite sure what this is telling me.

BTW, I know I drift upwards about 50Hz for about 20 mins as the transverter
xtal oscillator settles.

73s
Roger G3XBM

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http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
G3XBM    GQRP 1678      ISWL G11088

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Good Folks,<br><br>Have made some quick changes to the 500kHz antenna and=
 ground system (now using my 10m halo and feed now as a short vertical wit=
h top capacity loading and using the 15m long-wire as a radial along with=
 the central heating ground) and am putting the WSPR beacon back on shortl=
y. Interested to know if the changes have made much difference. Antenna cu=
rrent is higher so I hope it will radiate a some more. Reports and screens=
hots gratefully received.<br>
<br>On RX, G7NKS is about the same S/N as this morning before the changes.=
 Not quite sure what this is telling me.<br><br>BTW, I know I drift upward=
s about 50Hz for about 20 mins as the transverter xtal oscillator settles.=
<br>
<br>73s<br>Roger G3XBM<br clear=3D"all"><br>------------------------------=
-------------------------------<br><a href=3D"http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.co=
m/">http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.g3xbm.co.u=
k">http://www.g3xbm.co.uk</a><br>
G3XBM =A0 =A0GQRP 1678 =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL G11088<br>

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Any chance of the 502.4/137 tx group want a try at WOLF10 as an experiment=
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e how it howls against a quiet Whisper.

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With thanks

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Hello John and LF,

thank's report and info !
Transmitter stoped after an upgrade last night.
I will let transmitter run from now and all night in WSPR !
Dial 502.5 kHz USB.

73 de Gus SM6BHZ


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>I have some copy of SM6BHZ in the past half hour:
> 0016 -29  0.9   0.503951   0  SM6BHZ JO57 30
> 0026 -28  1.0   0.503951   0  SM6BHZ JO57 30
> 0034 -27  1.0   0.503951   0  SM6BHZ JO57 30
> 0040 -26  1.2   0.503951   0  SM6BHZ JO57 30
> 
> Will let it run overnight and see if any other calls show up.
> 
> John Andrews, W1TAG/1
> Raymond, Maine FN42ch
>




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At 2003z.  Very weak then faded out.

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Dear Laurence, Gus, LF Group,

Yes, that is very good - Congratulations! Would be interested to know what 
time did that occur?

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU

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Gus - excellent!



2009-09-05 SM6BHZ



0.503951
 -30
 0
 JO57wq
 10
 BY3A
 OM89ua
 7254 55



This bodes well as the path gets more dark. Set up is R75 and PA0RDT Probe 
in city centre apartment roof.



Thanks for the sigs



Laurence KL1X in BY3A OM89UA

Nr Tianjin Bohai Bay China





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James Moritz wrote:
> Dear LF Group,
> 
> I am now running a "standard" WOLF 10 mode beacon on 503.500kHz 


t:  48 f: 0.622 a: 1.2 dp:107.9 ci:10 cj:413 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t:  96 f: 0.623 a: 1.1 dp:107.8 ci:10 cj:413 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -

Actually it wasn't too difficult!

Now I should study the documentation to understand what the software's 
telling me!

Cheers,

John
GM4SLV



for the next
> few hours. Any reports would be very welcome. Information and software 
> downloads can be found at http://freenet-homepage.de/dl4yhf/wolf/index.html. 
> The beacon may shut down from time to time, because the signal seems to 
> scramble my ADSL modem...
> 
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU 
> 
> 


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Who is  running a qrp beacon on 503.3  ... very low in to  io83lk, som=
e thing about  5 ..? .. watts and a loop ae might of  copied  G0WSJ bu=
t  could be wrong .. signal is just showing at Birmingham ..  not at=
 G4WGT grabber  and  very low in the  noise at Wallasey ..  ..looks li=
ke it has  closed ?=20

Beacon text is very long ... would be better with simple vvvv  test =
 de gxxxx  gxxxx gxxxx   etc as qsb and static kept  knocking bits out=
 of the  text .... at least it  proved the  rx set up  works !

Graham

G0NBD

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Dave, LF,


Dave Sergeant wrote:

> 
> Well prompted by all the mails on here I have just installed the WSPR 
> software and had a listen to your signals this morning.
> 
> I noticed a couple of things which might explain why I was not getting 
> any decodes:
> 
> 1. On switch on of my K2 and Datong UC1 which I use for 500kHz receive 
> there is a noticeable drift, initially as high as 10Hz in the 2 minute 
> sampling period but eventually dropping to within 1Hz. I could not find 
> a spec as to how stable the receiver needs to be for WSPR. I believe 
> most of this drift is the 116MHz downconverter crystal in the UC1, 
> which is a big limitation to using it as a serious 500kHz receiver.

The frequency needs to be reasonably stable - the WSPR software will 
report the frequency shift seen during a reception period as "Drift" and 
I've seen a few reports of 1 or 2 Hz. This implies that it will work 
with a 1-2Hz drift across the 2 minute period. I'm not sure what the 
absolute limit is though.

> 2. Although I synchronised my computer clock to the time standards, and 
> it seems just a fraction of a second different from my 60kHz clock, 
> your transmissions seemed to be starting a second or two early, before 
> my WSPR started receiving, and finishing at around the 1.52 minutes 
> point. Is your clock out, or is this how it is supposed to work?

My PC is running NTP and is (hopefully fairly well locked to NTP time) 
and WSPR reports  "DT" (Delta Time) of +/- 0.1 Seconds on Jim's signals, 
so I guess that he and I are in agreement of what the correct time is, 
and he's getting lots of spots reported from other stations, so I don't 
think his timing is an issue. His trace on the waterfall in WSPR sits 
nicely in the 2-minute window.

I've seen successful decodes with DTs of up to 2 seconds.

The SNR/clock rate issue (see below) might muddy the waters  on absolute 
timing accuracy though?

> 3. You are of course s9+ at this range, and show as bright red on 
> WSPR's spectrogram. Hardly 'weak signal'. Does the software cope with 
> strong signals or does it overload?

This might be significant though.

I've seen may times that very strong signals fail to decode whereas much 
weaker ones from the same station (eg during QSB or after reduction in 
TX power) decode fine. There is one theory that it's to do with the 
accuracy of the soundcard clocks. With weakish signals some of the 
transmission is lost in the noise and the FEC will kick in and allow a 
decode by "filling in the gaps". With very strong signals no data is 
missed, and due to clock rate differnces the decode fails because the 
received bits are outide the tolerance of the decoder, timewise (A very 
poor description, sorry - Andy JNT will explain better).


This could imply that either yours or Jim's soundcard is not up to the 
job. Since Jim has had spots reported from close stations with SNRs of 
+9dB I guess this implies Jim's timing must be okay. I've seen this 
effect kick in when signals start to go into the positive SNR region.


> The only decode I got was for 'C1N/NU0RWS' in one of your non-transmit 
> periods.

That's a false decode and might indicate that you have a noise problem. 
I've seen similar gobbledegook decodes from people with high noise levels.

HTH

I'm receiving Jim consistently, in daylight, at -21dB SNR at 953km 
distance - on a Wellbrook ALA1530 loop.


Cheers,

John







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Congratulations to Gus and Laurence!

>From my Maine QTH, I had 11 hits on SM6BHZ and 4 on M0BMU last night. The spots have been uploaded to the database.

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* Marcin <bxi@go2.pl> [Mon, 14 Sep 2009 22:16:49 +0200]:
> Hi Roman!
> There was Request for Gus. :-)
> >
> > Let's try to find an correspondent with TX on 503Kc and receiver on
> > 40/80m QRV! -)

He is keep silence.

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HI ALL
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hi Marcin and LF
GM is f8boj error frequence in qrss3 change frequency for 137740hz  =
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Hello Jean Pierre
Your grabber regularly copy my signal:
http://www.sp2kds.pl/images/stories/f1afj.jpg
Vy 73!
Marcin SQ2BXI

Hello Marcin ,

Tnx for info , my antenna are at QTF 295=B0 (USA)

73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

Marcin a =E9crit :
> Dear Jean Pierre, LF
> It is HF70W QRSS 60 signal.
> Vy 73!
> Marcin SQ2BXI
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>
>> Hello LF'ers ,
>>
>> I copy on 137,778 unidentified signal ?
>> 22:00 =3D> 23:00 utc ( see on picture )
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>> 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj
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Wow -
dx !
sri for thinking they were wrong C/W entries in that case :-(

(oh, and Mal, I don't listen on CW, it gives me a headache)

Andy
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2009/9/20 <jrusgrove@comcast.net>

>  Andy
>
> K1JT, AA1A, W1XP, W1VD and W1TAG have been watching for EU WSPR. All
> display correct station information.
>
> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Andy Talbot <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>
>  *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>  *Sent:* Sunday, September 20, 2009 6:23 AM
> *Subject:* Re: LF: G4JNT WSPR
>
>   K1JT and A1AA certainly appear to report a lot of Dx WSPR spots :-)
> I do wish users would eithe rset their callsign / locator properly or turn
> off automatic upload.
>
> Best 'real' report last night was > 2000km, a TF station
>
> Andy
> www.g4jnt.com
>
>
>
>
> On 20/09/2009, John P-G <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> Andy, LF
>>
>> Many spots last night - here's just one of them
>>
>> 2352  -6  0.4   0.503851  0 G4JNT IO90 23
>>
>> And I wasn't even the best DX!
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> John
>> GM4SLV
>> --
>> http://gm4slv.blogspot.com
>> Clousta, Shetland
>> IP90gg
>>
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<div>Wow - </div>
<div>dx !</div>
<div>sri for thinking they were wrong C/W entries in that case :-(</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>(oh, and Mal, I don&#39;t listen on CW, it gives me a headache)</div>
<div><br clear=3D"all">Andy<br><a href=3D"http://www.g4jnt.com">www.g4jnt.=
com</a><br><br>this email has been scanned for political correctness by th=
e nanny state<br><br><br></div>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/9/20 <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mail=
to:jrusgrove@comcast.net">jrusgrove@comcast.net</a>&gt;</span><br>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8e=
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<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Andy</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">K1JT, AA1A, W1XP, W1VD and=A0W1TAG ha=
ve been watching for EU WSPR. All display correct station information.</fo=
nt></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Jay W1VD=A0 WD2XNS=A0 WE2XGR/2</font>=
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=3D"andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com" href=3D"mailto:andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com"=
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<div style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"rsgb_lf_group@black=
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<div style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, September 20, 2009 6:=
23 AM</div>
<div style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> Re: LF: G4JNT WSPR</div>
<div><br></div></div>
<div>
<div></div>
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<div>K1JT and A1AA certainly appear to report a lot of Dx WSPR spots :-)</=
div>
<div>I do wish users would eithe rset their callsign / locator properly or=
 turn off automatic upload.</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>Best &#39;real&#39; report last night was &gt; 2000km, a TF station</=
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<div>=A0</div>
<div>Andy</div>
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<div><br><br>=A0</div>
<div><span class=3D"gmail_quote">On 20/09/2009, <b class=3D"gmail_senderna=
me">John P-G</b> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk" targ=
et=3D"_blank">gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk</a>&gt; wrote:</span>=20
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8e=
x; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">Andy, LF<br><br>Many spots las=
t night - here&#39;s just one of them<br><br>2352 =A0-6 =A00.4 =A0 0.50385=
1 =A00 G4JNT IO90 23<br>
<br>And I wasn&#39;t even the best DX!<br><br>Cheers,<br><br>John<br>GM4SL=
V<br><span>-- <br><a href=3D"http://gm4slv.blogspot.com/" target=3D"_blank=
">http://gm4slv.blogspot.com</a><br>Clousta, Shetland<br>IP90gg<br><br></s=
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LF,
F8BOJ very strong QRSS signals this morning on 137.740. Screenshot attached.
New station for me!

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Hi Chris,

thanks for info and report !

73 de Gus SM6BHZ

  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 9:19 PM
  Subject: LF: SM6BHZ LSB TX


  Hi Gus,
  Your TX is Q5 here in JO01MI, talking and tones.
  Vy 73,
  Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent, England.

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<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4>Hi Chris,</FONT></EM></STRONG></DIV>
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Hi Claude,
Magnificent signal!
My locator KO85sv.
Argo in modes 3s and 90s

73
Andrey

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Hello LF,

My attempt to use the soundcard for both programs at the same time is 
working:

WSPR

2056  -2  0.7   0.503931  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
2104   7  0.9   0.503931  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30



WOLF

2009-09-10 20:59:21 >WOLF10  -r 7997.017 -f 1100 -t 3 -d 5 -w 0.0000
t:  24 f: 0.145 a: 1.4 dp:105.8 ci: 0 cj:224 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t:  48 f: 0.146 a: 1.3 dp:104.1 ci: 0 cj:224 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t:  96 f: 0.145 a: 1.4 dp: 98.9 ci: 0 cj:224 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t: 192 f: 0.156 pm:352.0 jm:511 q:  6.4  5.6 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t: 288 f: 0.146 pm:629.2 jm:512 q: 11.4 11.2 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -



RX tuned to 502.4 and WOLF centre freq adjusted to 1100Hz to comensate.

Note my -r 7997.017 came from the WOLF calibration routine, as described 
earlier.

Cheers,

John


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It is currently on around 503.890kHz. Just set your RX to 502.4kHz in USB
mode with the WSPR software and it will find me if at a readable level.

73s
Roger G3XBM

2009/9/17 Chris <c.ashby435@btinternet.com>

>  Hi Roger,
> Please remind us which frequency exactly it is on.
> Thanks and 73,
> Chris, G4AYT.
>



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It is currently on around 503.890kHz. Just set your RX to 502.4kHz in USB=
 mode with the WSPR software and it will find me if at a readable level.=
 <br><br>73s<br>Roger G3XBM<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/9/17 Ch=
ris <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:c.ashby435@btinternet.com">c.a=
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<div bgcolor=3D"#ffffff">
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Hi Roger,</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Please remind us which frequency exac=
tly it is=20
on.</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Thanks and 73,</font></div>
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Hi Jim & LF!

Started WSPR and RX'd SM6BHZ here:
http://rw3adb.narod.ru/2009/7sep2009_503.5kHz/1.jpg
503.950 is a SM6BHZ WSPR signal "loud" now.
It was possible to rx your station little bit b4, when I copy you into 
ARGO.
Std by WSPR prog up to morning.


Roman


* James Moritz <james.moritz@btopenworld.com> [Sun, 6 Sep 2009 21:05:12 
+0100]:
> Dear LF Group,
>
> The M0BMU WSPR beacon is running again - I have jacked up the antenna 
to
> increase the ERP a bit. G4WGT and G7NKS are also active - any reports
> would
> be very welcome.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
>




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Hi Warren,LF
capture XGJ
Henny pa3cpm
best 73s
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OK Dennis,
no problem, i go on transmit WSPR.
Good luck, i hope you find a G-stn to give you signals.
73 de Gus SM6BHZ


----- Original Message ----- 
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>
> Gus, thank You very much for the offer :)
> I heard You several times and the signal will be nice, for sure.
>
> My primary hope was/is to receive a signal from the west, e.g. England.
>
> Thanks again
> vy73
> Dennis
>
>
>
>
> -------- Original-Nachricht --------
>> Datum: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 23:25:36 +0200
>> Von: "Gus" <begu@algonet.se>
>> An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>> Betreff: LF: Re: low noise level today -> like to RX You on 600m
>
>> Dear Dennis,
>> I just run WSPR beacon, but i can take a break and transmit for you 15
>> min.
>> Is it ok if i transmit SSB and CW beacon , 505,5 kHz USB ?
>>
>> 73 de Gus SM6BHZ
>>
>> www.sm6bhz.com
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Dennis" <Dennis.Hennig@gmx.de>
>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 11:16 PM
>> Subject: LF: low noise level today -> like to RX You on 600m
>>
>>
>> >
>> > Hi!
>> >
>> > After some tinkering I'm surprised: The usual QRM is much lower tonight
>> on
>> > 500kHz, DI2AM loud and clear by ear.
>> >
>> > I don't like to discuss pro&contra WSPR, but for today, I do not have
>> any
>> > WSPR capabilities.
>> > Would You mind to transmit a 10-15 minute CW-Beacon for me?
>> >
>> > Thanks a lot :)
>> >
>> > vy73
>> > Dennis
>> > DL6NVC
>> >
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Dear Nicolas, Lubos, Henny and LF

Thank for HF70W raports.
Next station activity friday and saturday. 

I sleep after CQ WW RTTY Contest :-)
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Marcin SQ2BXI



Hello Marcin,strong tonight.


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Hi!

After some tinkering I'm surprised: The usual QRM is much lower tonight on 500kHz, DI2AM loud and clear by ear.

I don't like to discuss pro&contra WSPR, but for today, I do not have any WSPR capabilities. 
Would You mind to transmit a 10-15 minute CW-Beacon for me? 

Thanks a lot :)

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Hi Gus, Jim, LF!

Into my location KO85ro today:
1926 -24  1.2   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
1932 -26  1.1   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
1938 -27  1.1   0.503925  1 SM6BHZ JO57 30
1958 -16  1.1   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2014 -15  1.0   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2022 -15  0.9   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2028 -15  0.9   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2032 -13  0.9   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2038 -20  0.5   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2046 -17  1.2   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2052 -25  0.3   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2056 -19  1.0   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2102 -22  1.1   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2110 -27 -0.1   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2124 -22  0.7   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2130 -15  1.3   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2134 -22  1.0   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2140 -19  1.1   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2146 -15  1.2   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2152 -20  1.3   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2200 -28  1.3   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2206 -23  1.2   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2210 -14  1.2   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2216 -15  1.3   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2224 -20  1.3   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2228 -17  1.2   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2234 -29  1.3   0.503840  0 M0BMU IO91 33
2236 -24  1.5   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2242 -25  1.5   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2246 -17  1.5   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2252 -26  1.2   0.503840  0 M0BMU IO91 33
2254 -25  1.5   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2256 -27  1.1   0.503840  0 M0BMU IO91 33
2302 -31  1.5   0.503840  0 M0BMU IO91 33
2308 -23  1.8   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
2310 -27  1.4   0.503840  0 M0BMU IO91 33
2314 -28  1.4   0.503840  0 M0BMU IO91 33
2318 -25  1.4   0.503840  0 M0BMU IO91 33
2322 -26  1.7   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30

Glad to see M0BMU.
it was more wonderful prop last monday.
All reports next into 500-part qrss.nm.ru

73!
Roman

> Hi Gus, Jim, LF,
>
> 1920 -23 0.9 0.503926 SM6BHZ JO57 30
> 1932 -16 1.0 0.503926 SM6BHZ JO57 30
> 1938 -15 1.1 0.503927 SM6BHZ JO57 30
> 1948 -10 0.9 0.503926 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 1958 -8 0.9 0.503926 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2002 -26 0.8 0.503841 M0BMU IO91 33
> 2004 -2 1.0 0.503926 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2006 -27 0.6 0.503841 M0BMU IO91 33
> 2014 -26 1.4 0.503841 M0BMU IO91 33
> 2014 -14 0.8 0.503927 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2018 -22 0.8 0.503841 M0BMU IO91 33
> 2022 -6 1.0 0.503927 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2028 -6 0.8 0.503926 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2032 -21 0.8 0.503841 M0BMU IO91 33
> 2032 -5 0.9 0.503926 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2038 -8 1.0 0.503926 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2046 -3 1.0 0.503926 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2050 -29 0.8 0.503841 M0BMU IO91 33
> 2052 -9 0.7 0.503926 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2056 -30 0.6 0.503841 M0BMU IO91 33
> 2056 -9 0.8 0.503927 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2102 -24 0.5 0.503841 M0BMU IO91 33
> 2102 -9 0.8 0.503927 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2108 -21 0.6 0.503841 M0BMU IO91 33
> 2110 -7 0.9 0.503926 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2116 -20 0.6 0.503841 M0BMU IO91 33
> 2116 -15 0.6 0.503926 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2122 -24 2.1 0.503841 M0BMU IO91 33
> 2124 -7 0.8 0.503926 SM6BHZ JO57 40
>
> 73
> Andrey


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Tnx Chris
Will be QRV this evening agn  on CW and QSX 7033 for DX
 Best dx report this past few days was from SV
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  Hi Mal,
  Copied several of your CQs on 500 yesterday, cracking signal down he=
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  Chris, G4AYT, JO01MI.


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Hello Jean-Pierre, Warren, LF!
I saw only some traces of callsign at about 03:30UT. But last night was ve=
ry quiet, without QRN. I think, we could try receive this night.

73!

Lubos, OK2BVG

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> Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 10:36:23 +0200
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> Hi , Henny , Warren ,
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> Also i copy XGJ last night
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Hello Jean-Pierre, Warren, LF!<br>I saw only some traces of callsign at ab=
out 03:30UT. But last night was very quiet, without QRN. I think, we could=
 try receive this night.<br><br>73!<br><br>Lubos, OK2BVG<br><br>**********=
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I have multiple carriers on 504kHz Roman - I think some are relatively loc=
al and some a lot more distant given the qsb/strength at dawn - I pick the=
m up on both receivers both on active and un amplified antennae so I dont=
 think all of them can be mixing artifacts, but all cant be attributed to=
 the second harmonic of RTE Ireland  on 252.=20

=20

I would suggesting avoiding 30Hz LF of 504 or its in the splatter zone for=
 me (!)=20

=20

=20

In China we have all sorts of temp civil and military beacons and as we ar=
e only 600kms from Korea, and just up from other countries so you can gues=
s that a lot dont conform to "rules". As you may have seen from the Argo's=
 from here I get all sort of temp signals appearing mostly from local devi=
ces such as variable speed motor drives/cranes/security devices as well as=
 the normal SMPSU's. My general background noise daytime is around S4-5 bu=
t at night it zooms up of course..

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500kHz (A1A only ) continues to be used by the coast stations here for wea=
ther, navigational warnings etc but Ive not heard any two way traffic and=
 they dont move to their assigned 4xxkHz CW working channels when the sign=
 "up".=20

=20

Cheers

Laurence in BY3A

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> From: rw3adb@rambler.ru
> To: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com
> Subject: Re: Moscow decodes
> Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 03:55:32 +0400
>=20
> Do you know whats a 504.0 station? What is a locator?
> I'm visible that station very strong b4 0400mscLT as usual. Then he is=
=20
> going down here.
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I have multiple carriers on 504kHz Roman&nbsp;- I think some are relativel=
y local and some a lot&nbsp;more distant given the qsb/strength at dawn -=
 I pick them up on both receivers&nbsp;both on active and un amplified ant=
ennae so I dont think all of them&nbsp;can be mixing artifacts, but all ca=
nt be attributed to the second harmonic of RTE Ireland&nbsp; on 252. <BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
I would suggesting avoiding 30Hz LF of 504 or its in the splatter zone for=
 me (!) <BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
In China we have all sorts&nbsp;of temp civil and military beacons and&nbs=
p;as we are only 600kms from Korea, and just up from other countries so&nb=
sp;you can guess that a lot dont conform to "rules". As you may have seen=
 from the Argo's from here I get all sort of temp signals appearing mostly=
 from local devices such as variable speed motor drives/cranes/security de=
vices as well as the normal SMPSU's. My general background noise daytime=
 is around S4-5 but at night it zooms up of course..<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
500kHz (A1A only )&nbsp;continues to be used by the coast stations here fo=
r&nbsp;weather, navigational warnings etc but Ive not heard any two way tr=
affic and they dont move to their assigned&nbsp;4xxkHz CW&nbsp;working cha=
nnels when the sign "up".&nbsp;<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Cheers<BR>
Laurence in BY3A<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>&gt; From: rw3adb@rambler.ru<BR>&gt; To: hellozerohellozero@hotm=
ail.com<BR>&gt; Subject: Re: Moscow decodes<BR>&gt; Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009=
 03:55:32 +0400<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Do you know whats a 504.0 station? What=
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 as usual. Then he is <BR>&gt; going down here.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;=
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Hi Jim....

Your email has arrived, know I know what the odd signal is on 503.5 !  hihi
not  tried to decode , but a good beat from the  speaker

G .

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> Dear LF Group,
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> I am now running a "standard" WOLF 10 mode beacon on 503.500kHz for the 
> next
> few hours. Any reports would be very welcome. Information and software
> downloads can be found at 
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> The beacon may shut down from time to time, because the signal seems to
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Hi Warren,LF
traces XGJ
Henny pa3cpm
73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
xgj 07-09.jpg

Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld.

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Hi Gus, LF

1802   -20 -0.9   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 40
1806   -16  0.9   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 40
1812   -12  0.7   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 40
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1826   -15  1.1   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 40
1834   -17  0.6   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 40
1840   -16  0.8   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 40
1848   -10  0.8   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 40
1900   -19  1.0   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 40
1908   -11  0.7   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 40

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Success!!! Recalibrated the sound card as suggested and BINGO - decode on
first try!

2009-09-10 21:15:29 >WOLF10  -r 8100.257 -f 1000 -t 1 -w 0.0000
t:  24 f:-0.339 a:-1.5 dp: 85.6 ci: 7 cj:272 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -


73s and thanks for everyone's help tonight

Roger G3XBM

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Success!!! Recalibrated the sound card as suggested and BINGO - decode on=
 first try!<br><br>2009-09-10 21:15:29 &gt;WOLF10=A0 -r 8100.257 -f 1000=
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<br><br>73s and thanks for everyone&#39;s help tonight<br><br>Roger G3XBM<=
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Ferrite, Ferrite and more Ferrite then!

Any suggestions as to where best to place clip on cores?  

Mains lead? 
Power lead from PSU (Icom PS55) to rig (IC735)?
All leads from ZLP interface to laptop? (Dell D610) (I currently have
ferrite clip ons on the microphone and speaker leads from ZLP to laptop)
Dell Laptop PSU?

All the above??

With best regards
 
 
Jim
 
 
Dr. James Cowburn

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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham
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JIm,

I think you  find that is  caused by 50 hz mains hum .... may be a hum loop 
in the  audio system / pc-tx earthling , not likely to  be psu problem as 
frequency is 50 (fund)  and 150 ( 3 rd harm)

I had a similar problem with my  valve HF set , that was a slight  ripple on

the PA  HT line caused by the  100% duty cycle of wspr, not part of the 
design criteria for  ssb/cw , caused  spots to appear +/-  100  Hz due to 
the  full wave  rectification in the  psu

G .

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Subject: LF: Re: G7NKS multiple spots

>
> Dear Jim, LF Group,
>
>
>> Me too.  I am getting 3 traces (!) from Jim M (he is 9+10 and audible!)
>> and
>> a biggish one from Gus too
>
> I am seeing low-level (about -25dB) sidebands on your signal  at +/-50Hz 
> and
> +/-150Hz, which are giving rise to the extra spots.  I think something
> similar is happening when you receive my signal. I am not getting similar
> multiple spots from other nearby stations, nor am I seeing the same
> sidebands on other strong signals, so I think they must originate in your
> station somewhere - possibly audio being affected by mains noise, or some
> sort of residual FM of an oscillator in your rig?
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
>
>



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Dear LF Group,

Thanks for the reports on the WOLF beacon overnight. The beacon closed down 
at 0600utc Unfortunately, I drifted off to sleep shortly after starting it 
up ... all this beaconing is getting a bit exhausting! So I have only just 
seen the comments posted overnight.

As people have noticed, WOLF is quite critical in terms of setting-up 
required, and neccessary frequency accuracy and stability. The software 
expects the signal frequency to be within hertz of the specified value, so 
the receiver has to be accurate to this kind of level. The frequency drift 
has to be lower still, so much more demanding than WSPR. Wolf transmits a 
data frame of 10 baud BPSK lasting 96 seconds, which contains a 15-character 
message with highly redundant encoding. The 96s frame is repeated back to 
back. If the SNR is good enough, the WOLF decoder can successfully decode 
the message from only 1/4 of the complete frame after 24s. On the other 
hand,  if the signal is very weak, it allows several frames of the signal to 
be integrated over a period of time, potentially making it much more 
sensitive than WSPR. After every 96s, WOLF makes a new attempt to decode the 
accumulated signal, which is what each line of text on the decoder display 
represents.

For this to work, the timing of both transmitter and receiver have to be 
quite accurate as well as the frequency, so that the pattern of bits in 
successive frames does not get "out of step". This is governed mostly by the 
sample rate of the sound card, and for WOLF to successfully decode very weak 
signals, this needs to be calibrated within a few tens of parts per million, 
which is rather better than sound card manufacturers specify their products. 
The calibration utility in WOLF can do this by measuring the frequency of of 
an accurate audio tone, unfortunately, not every amateur has a suitably 
accurate audio source. I am using an audio source made from a TCXO and 
digital divider for calibration, made some years ago specially for this 
purpose. The problem with using an off-air signal such as 198kHz to 
calibrate the sound card is that the actual audio frequency coming out of an 
SSB/CW receiver then depends on the error in the receiver's oscillators, and 
the measured frequency depends on the error in the sound card sample rate, 
so there are two unknown errors that have to be resolved. So while an 
off-air signal can be used to calibrate the received frequency with more 
than adequate accuracy, the sound card sample rate is a bit more tricky.

The sample rate error will probably be small enough without calibration when 
the signal is strong, where successful decodes can be obtained from short 
periods of signal, but is likely to prevent the successful accumulation of a 
weak signal over many frames. Also, the experience with WSPR shows that 
quite large timing errors can appear for unknown reasons with "some 
computers". I think W1TAG has a good point about WOLF being possibly less 
satisfactory at 500kHz than 136k, due to the more rapidly changing phase in 
the propagation path at the higher frequency. The signal strength of the 
beacon in the UK and nearby during the last few days has undoubtedly been 
too high for a good assesment of the weak-signal performance of WOLF - if 
anyone is interested, I could try a low-power beacon this weekend for the 
benefit of UK stations.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU




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Ok Andrey , Tnx for info

73 Jean-Pierre

Andrey rn3agc a =E9crit :
> Hi Jean-Pierre,
> It, probably, was beacon UA4WPF.
>
> 73
> Andrey
>
>
>> Hello LF ,
>>
>> My antenna was in directection of the USA , I raised of the traces on=
=20
>> 137777. 2 , I suppose that it is ACG in beaconning !
>>
>> 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj
>>
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My 500kHz WSPR beacon is now back on again and will run overnight tonight.

All reports appreciated. I'd also appreciate some screenshots please.

Tomorrow I will try to do a small improvement to the ground system that
might be worth a couple of dBs.

73s
Roger

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My 500kHz WSPR beacon is now back on again and will run overnight tonight.=
 <br><br>All reports appreciated. I&#39;d also appreciate some screenshots=
 please.<br><br>Tomorrow I will try to do a small improvement to the groun=
d system that might be worth a couple of dBs.<br>
<br>73s<br>Roger <br><br>-------------------------------------------------=
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Will be running tonight from about 0000 to 0500 UTC (can't start 
earlier). Set receiver for 136.1, USB. Reports are welcome.

John, W1TAG/WD2XES
FN42ch


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Hi Joe,

I'll be visiting St. John's from the 17th. to 24th., staying at
a B&B right downtown.  I don't know what my wife has
planned, but perhaps we could have an eyeball QSO
over an evening meal if you're available?

73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
Solar and wind powered
Lowfer " EAR"  188.830
EN93dr

http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle




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Andy

K1JT, AA1A, W1XP, W1VD and W1TAG have been watching for EU WSPR. All display 
correct station information.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Andy Talbot
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  K1JT and A1AA certainly appear to report a lot of Dx WSPR spots :-)
  I do wish users would eithe rset their callsign / locator properly or turn 
off automatic upload.

  Best 'real' report last night was > 2000km, a TF station

  Andy
  www.g4jnt.com




  On 20/09/2009, John P-G <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk> wrote:
    Andy, LF

    Many spots last night - here's just one of them

    2352  -6  0.4   0.503851  0 G4JNT IO90 23

    And I wasn't even the best DX!

    Cheers,

    John
    GM4SLV
    -- 
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    Clousta, Shetland
    IP90gg


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Nothing in io83lk Roger, wspr  or  spec lab  only  decoding  Jim and=
 Gus=20

G ..

G0NBD


From: rogerlapthorn@gmail.com=20
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 8:47 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: WSPR threshold reports


Thanks for the screen shots Jim.=20

I continue to be simply amazed that my tiny signal is being decoded by=
 ANYONE at all. It certainly proves what a wonderful resource WSPR is=
 for experimenting with QRP, antennas, rigs etc. on any band, but espe=
cially on 136 and 500kHz.=20

73s
Roger G3XBM



On 17 Sep 2009 20:29, James Moritz <james.moritz@btopenworld.com> wrot=
e:
> Dear Dave, Roger, LF Group,
>=20
>=20
>=20
> I have attached a screen shot of WSPR signals from SM6BHZ and G3XBM=
 received just now, using Spectrum Lab set up for QRSS3 reception. The=
 corresponding WSPR spots were:
>=20
>=20
>=20
> 1836 -12  0.0   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 33
>=20
> 1840 -27  2.9   0.503890  0 G3XBM JO02 0
>=20
>=20
>=20
> SM6BHZ was an audible signal which would have been weak but copy-abl=
e CW - I expect Gus's signal will pick up by 10dB or so as the night=
 progresses. G3XBM is never audible at all - the QRN is building rapid=
ly now, but during the day I get 100% copy at about -25 or -26dB; when=
 noise levels build up I sometimes get correct copy at -30dB or so. So=
 that's what it looks like when it is working ;-)
>=20
>=20
>=20
> It makes no detectable difference whether I use the SSB filter or 25=
0Hz CW filter on the IC718 - even the local signals on 500k are not re=
ally strong enough to overload the audio, provided the RF gain is back=
ed well off so that the S meter reads about s7 or 8. You do need the=
 narrow filter on 136k of course.
>=20
>=20
>=20
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
>=20
> 73 de M0BMU
>=20


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inly=20
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rigs etc. on any band, but especially on 136 and 500kHz. <BR><BR>73s<B=
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G3XBM<BR><BR><BR><BR>On 17 Sep 2009 20:29, James Moritz &lt;<A   href=
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wrote:<BR>&gt; Dear Dave, Roger, LF Group,<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;=
 <BR>&gt; I=20
have attached a screen shot of WSPR signals from SM6BHZ and G3XBM rece=
ived just=20
now, using Spectrum Lab set up for QRSS3 reception. The corresponding=
 WSPR spots=20
were:<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; 1836 -12 &nbsp;0.0 &nbsp; 0.5=
03925=20
&nbsp;0 SM6BHZ JO57 33<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; 1840 -27 &nbsp;2.9 &nbsp; 0.50=
3890=20
&nbsp;0 G3XBM JO02 0<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; SM6BHZ was an=
 audible=20
signal which would have been weak but copy-able CW - I expect Gus's si=
gnal will=20
pick up by 10dB or so as the night progresses. G3XBM is never audible=
 at all -=20
the QRN is building rapidly now, but during the day I get 100% copy at=
 about -25=20
or -26dB; when noise levels build up I sometimes get correct copy at=
 -30dB or=20
so. So that's what it looks like when it is working ;-)<BR>&gt; <BR>&g=
t;=20
<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; It makes no detectable difference whether I use the=
 SSB filter=20
or 250Hz CW filter on the IC718 - even the local signals on 500k are=
 not really=20
strong enough to overload the audio, provided the RF gain is backed we=
ll off so=20
that the S meter reads about s7 or 8. You do need the narrow filter on=
 136k of=20
course.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Cheers, Jim Moritz<BR>&gt;=
 <BR>&gt;=20
73 de M0BMU<BR>&gt;=20
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Hello Marcin ,

Tnx for info , my antenna are at QTF 295=B0 (USA)

73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

Marcin a =E9crit :
> Dear Jean Pierre, LF
> It is HF70W QRSS 60 signal.
> Vy 73!
> Marcin SQ2BXI
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>> Hello LF'ers ,
>>
>> I copy on 137,778 unidentified signal ?
>> 22:00 =3D> 23:00 utc ( see on picture )
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Hello LF ,

My antenna was in directection of the USA , I raised of the traces on 
137777. 2 , I suppose that it is ACG in beaconning !

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Hi,LF,
Capture HF70W
Henny pa3cpm
best 73s
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Look it pse, Jim:
http://rw3adb.narod.ru/2009/7sep2009_503.5kHz/503.5W_3_00006.jpg
http://rw3adb.narod.ru/2009/7sep2009_503.5kHz/503.5W_3_00008.jpg
Is't your signal?

Roman

* James Moritz <james.moritz@btopenworld.com> [Sun, 6 Sep 2009 21:11:44 
+0100]:
> ...I should have said that it is on 503.975kHz, 502.4k "dial 
frequency"
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "James Moritz" <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 9:05 PM
> Subject: LF: WSPR beacon
>
>
> > Dear LF Group,
> >
> > The M0BMU WSPR beacon is running again - I have jacked up the 
antenna
> to
> > increase the ERP a bit. G4WGT and G7NKS are also active - any 
reports
> > would be very welcome.
> >
> > Cheers, Jim Moritz
> > 73 de M0BMU
> >
>
>




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Andy,

Showing well with the  -6 db power level, Using the  35  ft top loaded=
 vertical , tuned with the  atu and the  FT-897-d, atten 'on'  rf gain=
 backed to  show  6 s points   the  odd -33 spot  was the FT897 warmin=
g up ( I will sent it to the data base for removal)=20

tnx- G .=20



       2009-09-19 13:22   G4JNT   0.503850   -20   0   IO90iv   0.2 =
  G0NBD   IO83   311   338 =20
       2009-09-19 13:12   G4JNT   0.503850   -19   0   IO90iv   0.2 =
  G0NBD   IO83   311   338 =20
       2009-09-19 13:06   G4JNT   0.503918   -33   0   IO90iv   0.2 =
  G0NBD   IO83   311   338 =20
       2009-09-19 13:06   G4JNT   0.503850   -20   0   IO90iv   0.2 =
  G0NBD   IO83   311   338 =20







From: Andy Talbot=20
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2009 1:49 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Subject: Re: LF: Re: 'JNT Dual purpose beacons


Dropped to 33% DutyCycle - the fan on the PA had kicked-in and I prefe=
r to keep things so the fan only comes on for Tx periods in hot weathe=
r.  =20

WSPR Power still -6dB

Andy
www.g4jnt.com

this email has been scanned for political correctness by the nanny sta=
te



2009/9/19 James Moritz <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>

  Dear Andy,

  Looking, well, nominal here...


  1206  -1  1.6   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
  1210  -1  1.2   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
  1214  -1  0.2   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
  1222  -1  0.2   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
  1226  -1  0.2   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
  1228  -1  0.1   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23

  ... spots are being uploaded to WSPRnet.org database.=20


  Cheers, Jim Moritz
  73 de M0BMU






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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Showing well with the&nbsp; -6 db pow=
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y.g4jnt@googlemail.com&#10;CTRL + Click to follow link"   href=3D"mail=
to:andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com">Andy Talbot</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, September 19, 2009 1:49 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A   title=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org&#10;=
CTRL + Click to follow link"   href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep=
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</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: Re: 'JNT Dual purpose beacons</DIV></DIV>=
</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Dropped to 33% DutyCycle - the fan&nbsp;on the PA had kicked-in=
 and I=20
prefer&nbsp;to keep&nbsp;things so the fan&nbsp;only&nbsp;comes on&nbs=
p;for Tx=20
periods&nbsp;in&nbsp;hot weather.&nbsp;&nbsp; </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>WSPR Power still -6dB</DIV>
<DIV><BR clear=3Dall>Andy<BR><A   href=3D"http://www.g4jnt.com">www.g4=
jnt.com</A><BR><BR>this email has been scanned=20
for political correctness by the nanny state<BR><BR><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>2009/9/19 James Moritz <SPAN dir=3Dltr>&lt;<A=
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On 13 Sep 2009 at 16:51, Roger Lapthorn wrote:

> However, nothing ventured nothing gained, *I will put this WSPR TX on
> the air this evening* starting shortly in case *anyone* can hear me. 
> Any WSPR spot reports would fill me with total amazement and delight.
> 

What actual frequency are you transmitting on Roger? As you might have 
gathered I do have a bit of a problem calibrating WSPR and decoding.... 
I am running it now, and Argo, and seeing a moderately strong WSPR 
signal but no decodes. It may of course be Gus or somebody else. It 
last transmitted in the 1744 slot and before that at 1736.

73 Dave G3YMC

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1552 -28 -0.7   0.503843  0 G4JNT IO90 23

73s willem pa3ego



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James Cowburn wrote:
> This is beats 20m ssb dx anyday for "wow" factor!
> 


Indeed!

I'm also running WSPR on 5MHz - sometimes TX, more usually RX only, and 
Alan G4ZFQ on the Isle of Wight has been running some low power tests 
with me.

So far I've been able to receive him when he's been using 0.3mW TX 
power..... at 1036km distance

Now that beats "your report is 59 please repeat your name and QTH"

Cheers,

John

> 



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Dear Chris,

Re: your successful reception of WOLF with large frequency offsets, this is 
quite interesting, since normally the mode is not very tolerant of errors in 
the frequency settings. Next time (if there is one...) it would be 
interesting to see what the decoder output looks like when you do this.

In its present experimental form, WOLF is certainly not very easy to set up. 
Some brave souls have completed 2-way QSOs, but it has to be said that as a 
2-way communications mode it is not yet fully developed either. Much of the 
difficulty is due to shortcomings of the hardware being used to transmit and 
receive it, especially sound cards. You have to remember that sound cards 
are really designed to generate sound effects to accompany the escapades of 
Sonic the Hedgehog, or for listening to your favorite illegal Drum 'n' Bass 
downloads, neither of which need great precision in frequency, so getting 
them to work for sophisticated communications DSP is bound to be fiddly 
sometimes.

It is certainly true that a 2-way QSO between M0BMU and G4AYT would be much 
easier using CW, or PSK31, or any of several quite well developed modes that 
are available. But if you are trying to work DX stations on LF or MF, most 
of the time you cannot hear their signals at all, nor they yours, so 
contacts in CW are impossible. But modes like WSPR, QRSS and perhaps WOLF 
can function with much lower signal levels and make these QSOs possible, if 
not as easy and convenient as one might like.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU




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Hi Warren LF,
Nice capture XGJ
Henny pa3cpm
best 73s
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Warren LF,</FONT></DIV>
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James Cowburn wrote:
> Dear LF
> 
>  
> 
> G7NKS is back on tonight with a new umbrella antenna under test.  
> 
>  
> 
> 10m vertical element with 4x8m capacity wires sloping down at 45degrees.
> Not ideal but a little better than the old "L".   

James,

This is much the same antenna as I've used on 500kHz. I started with 12m 
height, but Shetland weather saw to that.... I then used 8m, with 
sloping capacity wires of approx 6m, acting as guys (insulators at the 
lower ends ends and nylon rope for the last section to the guying points.)

I tuned it with a variety of fixed and tapped inductors and matched to 
50 ohms with a tapped ferrite transformer, all in a plastic bin at the 
feed point. A run of 50 ohm feeder back to the shack.

I've had reports and QSOs (in-band and cross-band) from at least the 
follwing: G/GW/GM/GI/EI/LA/SM/DL/OH/F/PA/ON and probably others. I've 
had QSOs with powers as low as 100mW TX power and up to 200W TX power.

My estimate of the ERP for 100W TX power is 4-500mW on a good day (very 
dependant on ground losses which affect the antenna current and hence 
the radiated power).

Hope you have success with it.

John
GM4SLV

-- 
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IP90gg


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Dear LF,



regarding intercontinental LF propagation, 100 kHz Loran is currently showing traces in Europe during the following approximate time windows:
?
Japan: 17 - 21 UT (Minami Torishima ending an hour earlier)
China: 16 - 22 UT
American east coast: 21 - 06 UT
South and central US: 01 - 05 UT
Transpolar (Port Clarence AK): 21 - 03 UT (still weak)



For details and day-to-day variations, see http://freenet-homepage.de/df6nm/LoranView/LoranView.htm



Kind regards,

Markus, DF6NM



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<div>Dear LF,</div>


<div>&nbsp;</div>


<div>regarding intercontinental LF propagation, 100 kHz Loran is currently showing traces in Europe during the following approximate time windows:<br>
&nbsp;<br>
Japan: 17 - 21 UT (Minami Torishima ending an hour earlier)<br>
China: 16 - 22 UT<br>
American east coast: 21 - 06 UT<br>
South and central US: 01 - 05 UT<br>
Transpolar (Port Clarence AK): 21 - 03 UT (still weak)</div>


<div>&nbsp;</div>


<div>For details and day-to-day variations, see <A href="http://freenet-homepage.de/df6nm/LoranView/LoranView.htm">http://freenet-homepage.de/df6nm/LoranView/LoranView.htm</A></div>


<div>&nbsp;</div>


<div>Kind regards,</div>


<div>Markus, DF6NM</div>


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John ,
you are right !
I hope that conds stay untill tomorrow night ! :-)
Now bed time.

73 de Gus SM6BHZ
www.sm6bhz.com


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> Gus,
> 
>> yes it seams like it is good conds this evening.
> 
> Very good, with lots of hits starting at 2330 UTC.
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> John, W1TAG
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hi Anatoly LF group
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good copy Anatoly..last night open qrss60 windows...
best's and good week end
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Hello LF'ers,
Question to Jim M0BMU and all who will work further WSPR on 137...
It is possible to move transmission frequencies WSPR in area 137.1?

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Gus, LF group
This evening strong copy your WSPR beacon: +11dB.
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Vy 73!
Marcin SQ2BXI


> Marcin,
> 
> thank you for report and info!
> 
> 73 de Gus SM6BHZ
> www.sm6bhz.com
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Marcin" <bxi@go2.pl>
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> > Dear Gus, LF Group
> > This evening very strong copy your WSPR beacon:
> > 
> > 2158   6  0.2   0.503951  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> > 2206   3  0.9   0.503951  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> > 2214   7  1.0   0.503951  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> > 2222   1  0.9   0.503951  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> > 2232   2  0.9   0.503951  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> > 2236  10  0.8   0.503951  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> > 2242   9  0.8   0.503951  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> > 
> > Maximum signal +10dB !
> > --
> > Vy 73!
> > Marcin SQ2BXI
> > 
> >
> 
> 
> 


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Hi jean-Pierre!

You are oriented right, I'm looked!
There is no TX stations from russia today.
Andrey RN3AGC started his grabber and no TX, Anatoly UA4WPF TX'd 1 cycle 
around 2230mscLT and finished.
I'm onto 503 kHz now, looking WSPR beacons.
If I looked info from WPF next time I'm let you know!

73!
Roman


* "\"Jean-Pierre MĂŠrĂŠ (F1AFJ)\"" <jpm.f1afj@online.fr> [Sun, 06 Sep 2009 
22:49:40 +0200]:
> Roman ,
> My grabber is ON ,
> antenna at QTF 60Â° for 2 hours ,
> after i swich in USA direction !
> 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj
>
> Roman RW3ADB a ĂŠcrit :
> > Hi Jean-Pierre & LF agn!
> > Yep, condx are very good!
> > I was surprised last night!
> > I'm put the screenshots from all night into QRSS-90 mode and half of
> > night in QRSS-120 onto my report 136-page:
> > http://qrss.nm.ru/136.html
> >
> > 73!
> > Roman
> >
> > * "\"Jean-Pierre MĂŠrĂŠ (F1AFJ)\"" <jpm.f1afj@online.fr> [Sun, 06 Sep
> > 2009 19:42:47 +0200]:
> >> Hi  Roman ,
> >> Tnx , good conditions !
> >> 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj
> >>
> >> Roman RW3ADB a ĂŠcrit :
> >> > Hello Jean-Pierre & LF!
> >> > It was an UA4WPF beacon.He was visible very good during the last
> > night
> >> > into my grabber in Moscow.
> >> > http://rw3adb.narod.ru/2009/5sep2009_UA4WPF/137.07W_90_00009.jpg
> >> > http://rw3adb.narod.ru/2009/5sep2009_UA4WPF/137.07W_120_00002.jpg
> >> > Was traced onto your grabber and DF6NM too.
> >> >
> >> > * "\"Jean-Pierre MĂŠrĂŠ (F1AFJ)\"" <jpm.f1afj@online.fr> [Sun, 06 
Sep
> >> > 2009 13:59:27 +0200]:
> >> >> Ok Andrey , Tnx for info
> >> >>
> >> >> 73 Jean-Pierre
> >> >>
> >> >> Andrey rn3agc a ĂŠcrit :
> >> >> > Hi Jean-Pierre,
> >> >> > It, probably, was beacon UA4WPF.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > 73
> >> >> > Andrey
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> Hello LF ,
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> My antenna was in directection of the USA , I raised of the
> > traces
> >> > on
> >> >> >> 137777. 2 , I suppose that it is ACG in beaconning !
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Roman RW3ADB.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Roman RW3ADB.
> >
> >
> >
>




--
Roman RW3ADB.


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Bonsoir Claude,

Ant: 2 x 2 m loop of 8 turns, series resonant at 137kHz.  Loop adjusted to=
 minimise France Inter on 162kHz (reduction of 34dB).

RX: Lowe HF250 set to CW (LSB) with 2,2kHz filter.  Line level output goes=
 to an external USB soundcard feeding an XP system which runs Argo V1 buil=
d 134.

Si vous voulez, je peux correspondre en fran=E7ais.

73
John Rabson=20
F5VLF
58800 Cervon
France
JN17vg

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On 22/09/2009 at 17:52 Claude Berthebaud wrote:

>Good evening John
>Can you give me your conditions of reception in any case thank you for=20
>control at the moment I can not go below 20w hi ..
>thank you again
>F8boj Claude JN16WA
>----- Original Message -----=20
>From: "John RABSON" <john.rabson@numeo.fr>
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>
>> Still 30dB over and 569 by ear at 1545z.
>>
>> F5VLF
>>
>> *********** BEGIN FORWARDED MESSAGE  ***********
>>
>> On 22/09/2009 at 17:35 John RABSON <john.rabson@numeo.fr> wrote:
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>>>At 1532z.
>>>
>>>F5VLF
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>





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Roger Lapthorn wrote:
>  Overnight tonight I shall be running the WSPR beacon again in the hope that
> a few more people may spot my tiny signal.

Roger, LF,

Still no copy here, but it's early days!

I've moved the MF WSPR receiver to 160m if you fancy a daytime test on 
that band, as a comparison?

Dial = 1.8366MHz

Will leave it running and reporting spots while I'm at work.



Cheers,

John
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Dave,

I think the  signal level V signal quality may be a major  factor, Gary is 
quite  close to me and  as he mentioned doesn't  always decode my signal, 
contrary and oddly my off line monitor  (ft897 with 20 feet end fed floating 
vertical to the  chimney stack)  produced reliable decodes all night ... 
capturing Gus and Jim in the  quite windows and my signal with a 'huge'  red 
centre  line and 50% of the  window  green ..

But  from last winter, I think it was determined that the  clock speed of 
the  audio card was the  main factor, various posts on the  user  group did 
tend to confirm this, but seems to date there no provision for a correction 
factor.

Following this , it looks like the  'less is more' syndrome applies, with 
missing a percentage of the  sync 'pulses'  resulting in a reliable de-code 
where as a 100% decode may fail, perhaps due to some form of 'quality check' 
in the  package ?

Last night  I ran two separate stations , with  tx/rx  from one pc and the 
off air decode from the  second, the decodes from the  ft897 showed Jim and 
Gus Dt to  be similar to the  reporting  data base , where as my  tx was 
showing 1.5   dt ..  both pc's share the same  radio network and  where 
running the  Dim-4 software, (Note Johns comments re d4)  so with in the 
same qth, same web link there was a displayed error of 1.5

was this  error recorded by other  stations ? , the dt is  not shown on the 
web data base

73- G ..


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Subject: LF: Re: WSPR beacon

>
> I have just been doing some more tests on 30m. Clock errors might well
> have been part of the problem. Initially on 30m the few decodes I was
> seeing were showing a DT of over 3s, so I had a play with the dsec
> setting, and setting that to -3.5 brought me rather more spots with DTs
> around 0. I noticed at that time that my computer clock was indeed
> around 3secs out relative to MSF, but that doesn't tie in with when I
> was listening to Jim earlier when it was no further than 0.5s
> different, even after an internet resynch. Surely my PC clock didn't
> drift 3s in a couple of hours....
>
> As to strong signals failing to decode, thanks for the information. I
> am using the built in sound chip on the motherboard, and as you know
> these are always a bit ropey, so it may be the reason. I have another
> problem at the moment, in that I have just fitted a fixed level audio
> output connection to the K2 and I think I have got its level a bit high
> - I have to set the input level in WSPR to virtually zero to get around
> 0dB input. I shall be turning it down a bit next time I have to go
> inside the K2.
>
> It does look as if some aspects of WSPR are a bit finnicky though, not
> too impressed myself but if it means you are spotted in AA1A land it is
> obviously serving a good purpose. But for working Hatfield from
> Bracknell I guess there are quicker ways...
>
> 73 Dave G3YMC
>
> On 5 Sep 2009 at 12:17, James Moritz wrote:
>
>> Dear Daves, LF Group,
>>
>> Thanks for the overnight reports - the beacon was shut down at 0925utc
>> here. I see several spots in the database from AA1A - the first time
>> M0BMU has been copied in the US this season, thanks Dave.
>>
>> In answer to YMC Dave's questions:
>> 1) I don't know of an actual figure for required frequency stability,
>> but more than several Hz drift during a 2 minute period would be a
>> problem. But a drift of 1Hz in 2min is small enough. Some of the HF
>> people have problems with rigs heating and cooling between transmit and
>> receive cycles and the resulting cyclic drift. Using a converter and
>> receiver with seperate oscillators will certainly tend to multiply drift
>> problems.
>>
>> 2) I have not so far had much success with internet based clock
>> synchronisation utilities, so at the moment I am just setting my PC
>> clock against an MSF clock at the start of each session - this is
>> adequate, but my PC does drift a few seconds overnight. Having said
>> that, I was being received OK by a number of other stations this
>> morning. The transmission is supposed to start on each even minute, and
>> have a duration of 110.6 seconds.
>>
>> 3) WSPR seems to have good dynamic range, provided the RX and sound card
>> gains are adjusted so that overload does not occur. Certainly, it is
>> possible to receive rather weak signals giving just a faint trace in the
>> noise on the waterfall display at the same time as strong "red" traces
>> occur - a range of 40dB or more. Even if a strong signal does cause
>> overload, the randomised transmit periods mean that only a fraction of
>> the weak signal time slots will be affected. I have not noticed any
>> problem with decoding strong WSPR signals here, although there are not
>> really any "very" strong signals.
>>
>> The "false decodes" occur from time to time, apparently more when
>> narrow-band QRM is present. If you read W1JT's description of the
>> various JT modes, he has made a trade-off between excluding decoded weak
>> signals that contain a lot of noise but could be correct, and falsely
>> decoding noise that by chance resembles a signal. In practice, they are
>> not really an issue, due to the fact that the callsign is encoded with
>> other information (for WSPR the locator and power output) and these
>> would have to be consistent with the callsign for the signal to be
>> accepted as valid. Even if the falsely decoded callsign is plausible, it
>> is extremely unlikely that the locator would be correct, and
>> astronomically unlikely that the same decode would be generated from
>> noise at multiple receiving stations on multiple occasions. Using these
>> types of criteria, false decodes are periodically stripped out of the
>> WSPR database.
>>
>> A number of people have had problems with strong signals failing to
>> decode, on HF as well as 500kHz. We did some investigation of this last
>> winter; there may be more than one cause, but one issue is that some
>> sound cards/operating systems appear to generate significant timing
>> errors, which over the relatively long transmission period of WSPR
>> accumulate to mess things up. This results in some receivers failing to
>> decode some transmitters. One way to test this is to receive a strong
>> WSPR signal, but then after about 40s or a minute from the start of a
>> transmission disconnect the audio to the PC or turn the gain down to
>> zero. There is enough data in the shortened signal to decode, but less
>> time for timing errors to accumulate. If this results in successful
>> decoding, then a timing error of this sort seems likely, which could be
>> at either TX or RX. Weak signals may decode fine, because parts of the
>> signal are "missing" due to noise and fading. So another possible test
>> is to reduce gain until the strong signal is just a weak trace on the
>> waterfall in the receiver noise, and see if correct decoding occurs
>> then.
>>
>> Cheers, Jim Moritz
>> 73 de M0BMU
>>
>>
>
>
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Nil seen so far is he still TX
G3KEV

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Laurence BY3A-KL1X China=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2009 8:55 AM
  Subject: LF: JH1GVY 137.7775


  =20
  JH1GVY 137.7775 QRSS 120 Will be QRV tonight again tonight, Saturday=
 from 12Z for a few hours  -  if the wind isnt strong.=20
  =20
  Antennae is 40/50m vertical balloon, Tx around  50W, circa 1W ERP.=
=20
  =20
  =20
  QTH  PM96UC, 50km north of Tokyo
  =20
  Some of his details and experiences on LF and 160m=20
  http://www003.upp.so-net.ne.jp/JH1GVY/index.html
  =20
  Hes certainly putting out a signal both into VK and China  and bodes=
 well for Eu later in the year....
  =20
  Ill have one receiver on 137 and the SDR on WSPR 502.4
  =20
  73
  =20
  Laurence in BY3A
  Grabs China  http://kl1x.com/2dx00000.jpg
  Grabs Alaksa http://kl1x.com/dx00000.jpg
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Nil seen so far is he still TX</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><BR></DIV>&nbsp;<BR>JH1GVY 137.7775 QRSS 120 Will be QRV tonigh=
t again=20
  tonight, Saturday from 12Z for a few hours &nbsp;- &nbsp;if the wind=
 isnt=20
  strong. <BR>&nbsp;<BR>Antennae is 40/50m vertical balloon, Tx around=
=20
  &nbsp;50W, circa 1W ERP. <BR><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;<BR><FO=
NT     face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;<BR><FONT face=3DArial>QTH &nbsp;PM96=
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James Moritz wrote:
> Dear LF Group,
> 
> I am now running a "standard" WOLF 10 mode beacon 


Jim,

Now I'm going to have to learn something else new.... is there no end to 
this?

What's wrong with plain CW?

Of course there's nothing to beat the weekly stage coach.

:-)

Give me a day or two and I'll try RX in WOLF mode.

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Hello LF!
I changed my aerials and the results is more better. I just see SM6BHZ and G4WGT.

1940  -3  1.0   1.503951  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
1942 -29  2.3   1.503911  0 G4WGT IO83 27
1946  -2  1.2   1.503951  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

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Hello LF!<br>I changed my aerials and the results is more better. I just see SM6BHZ and G4WGT.<br><br>1940&nbsp; -3&nbsp; 1.0&nbsp;&nbsp; 1.503951&nbsp; 0 SM6BHZ JO57 40<br>1942 -29&nbsp; 2.3&nbsp;&nbsp; 1.503911&nbsp; 0 G4WGT IO83 27<br>1946&nbsp; -2&nbsp; 1.2&nbsp;&nbsp; 1.503951&nbsp; 0 SM6BHZ JO57 40<br><br>Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS<br><br /><hr />Ve službě Windows Live můžete uspořádat, upravit a <a href='http://www.microsoft.com/cze/windows/windowslive/products/photo-gallery-edit.aspx' target='_new'>sdílet své fotografie.</a></body>
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Thanks Paul-Henrik, I was testing a new QRO TX. Hope to be fully operational
soon.

73
Dave
G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK

2009/9/22 Paul-Henrik <phl@netikka.fi>

> LF
>
> Just received some short carriers + TEST G3YXM
>
> Nice signal, 559 on 502.5kHz 1950UTC
>
> The IC-718 was/is standing watch using the stock SSB filter :)
>
> 73
>
> Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
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Thanks Paul-Henrik, I was testing a new QRO TX. Hope to be fully operation=
al soon.<br><br>73<br>Dave<br>G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK<br><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote">2009/9/22 Paul-Henrik <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:phl@netikka.fi">phl@netikka.fi</a>&gt;</span><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204,=
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<br>
Just received some short carriers + TEST G3YXM<br>
<br>
Nice signal, 559 on 502.5kHz 1950UTC<br>
<br>
The IC-718 was/is standing watch using the stock SSB filter :)<br>
<br>
73<br>
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Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ<br>
Vaasa / KP03SD<br>
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Roman,

thank's report and info !
If all work good i will run all night.

73 de Gus


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>* Gus <begu@algonet.se> [Thu, 24 Sep 2009 20:18:39 +0200]:
>> Dear LF,
>>
>> this evening i test an SSB Beacon, QRG 508 kHz LSB.
>> Reports are welcome.
> 
> Whats time you planing to finish?
> Best reports for yesterday between 2230-0040 UTC
> 
> 090923 2224  11 -20  1.2   0.503923  SM6BHZ JO57 33          0     1 
> 0
> 090923 2232  20 -13  1.4   0.503923  SM6BHZ JO57 33          0     1 
> 0
> 090923 2236  19 -14  1.4   0.503923  SM6BHZ JO57 33          0     1 
> 0
> 090923 2242  21 -11  1.2   0.503923  SM6BHZ JO57 33          0     1 
> 0
> 090923 2246  12 -21  1.4   0.503923  SM6BHZ JO57 33          0     1 
> 0
> 090923 2252  17 -17  1.4   0.503923  SM6BHZ JO57 33          0     1 
> 0
> 090923 2258  20 -13  1.4   0.503923  SM6BHZ JO57 33          0     1 
> 0
> 090923 2302  23  -9  1.5   0.503923  SM6BHZ JO57 33          0     1 
> 0
> 090923 2308  22 -11  1.3   0.503923  SM6BHZ JO57 33          0     1 
> 0
> 090923 2312  23 -10  1.4   0.503923  SM6BHZ JO57 33          0     1 
> 0
> 090923 2318  22 -10  1.4   0.503923  SM6BHZ JO57 33          0     1 
> 0
> 090923 2326  20 -12  1.6   0.503923  SM6BHZ JO57 33          0     1 
> 0
> 090923 2330  16 -16  1.7   0.503923  SM6BHZ JO57 33          0     1 
> 0
> 090923 2334  13 -19  1.6   0.503923  SM6BHZ JO57 33          0     1 
> 0
> 090923 2340  20 -12  1.7   0.503923  SM6BHZ JO57 33          0     1 
> 0
> 090923 2344  24 -10  1.4   0.503923  SM6BHZ JO57 33          0     1 
> 0
> 090923 2348  22 -10  1.6   0.503923  SM6BHZ JO57 33          0     1 
> 0
> 090923 2356  25  -7  1.6   0.503923  SM6BHZ JO57 33          0     1 
> 0
> 090924 0004  26  -7  1.8   0.503923  SM6BHZ JO57 33          0     1 
> 0
> 090924 0012  20 -13  1.7   0.503923  SM6BHZ JO57 33          0     1 
> 0
> 090924 0018  24  -9  1.8   0.503923  SM6BHZ JO57 33          0     1 
> 0
> 090924 0024  17 -15  1.9   0.503923  SM6BHZ JO57 33          0     1 
> 0
> 090924 0032  13 -17  2.0   0.503923  SM6BHZ JO57 33          0    62 
> 0
> 090924 0038  11 -20  2.0   0.503923  SM6BHZ JO57 33          0     1 
> 0
> 
>> 73 de Gus SM6BHZ
>> www.sm6bhz.com
>>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --
> Roman RW3ADB.
>




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--- On Mon, 9/21/09, James Moritz <james.moritz@btopenworld.com> wrote:

> or those who are just not morse operators. 

I've been waiting to see a comment like this; I would fall into
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On 15 Sep 2009 at 7:12, Dave G3WCB wrote:

> No sign of any other stations last night. I'll be able to monitor again
> on Wednesday evening.

G7NKS was also on, as you see a bit weaker than Gus but seemed to be 
sharing the same time slots.
(note this is WSJT7 output, which is all that will run on my sound 
card:
Time, Sync, dB, DT, DF, Drift, Call, Locator
where DF is the relative frequency to the centre, 503.9kHz (give or 
take a few Hz...)

184000  10  -8  2.9    32  1  G7NKS IO92 23         
184400  10  -3  2.4    32  0  SM6BHZ JO57 40        
184800   7  -9  2.9    40  1  G7NKS IO92 23         
185000   8  -3  2.4    34  0  SM6BHZ JO57 40        
185800  13  -1  2.4    24  0  SM6BHZ JO57 40        
185800   9 -11  2.7    33  0  G7NKS IO92 23         
190200   6  -5  2.4    24  1  SM6BHZ JO57 40        
191000  11   4  2.3    24  0  SM6BHZ JO57 40        
191000   5 -14  2.9    34  0  G7NKS IO92 23

73 Dave G3YMC
         
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That seems to  be a reasonable situation Jim ?.

After  running the wspr  system for a considerable time, with the  504 
carrier in the  pass band, it seems 'not' to cause false decodes as I 
originally feared, from this, I would  suggest that  the  top section of the 
band be retained for  wspr usage , possibly raising the dial set  100 hz ?

As I am 'fortunate' (?) to  receive  the 504  signal at a level where the 
'am'   modulation may be resolved at times , it can be observed that a 
clear window exists close in to the  carrier  frequency, approaching  100 hz 
wide, the  same exists on the  hf side of the signal, wide enough for wspr 
operations.

This may also  be beneficial to the  g4jnt multi mode beacon, which, due to 
antenna 'q'  may not  welcome a change of  tx frequency from  the top to the 
bottom of the  band dictated by mode ?

G ..

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>
> Dear Graham, LF Group,
>
>> As the  European allocation looks to  be  wider than the  Uk, are we
>> expecting the  UK 3 Khz  allocation to  remain as is, if  and when the
>> band is formalised ?, in which case loosing 200 hz may not be the  most
>> sensible option ...
>
> As I understand it, there are not yet any formal Europe-wide proposals, 
> just
> what individual regulators have allocated on a case-by-case basis. I think
> G, EI, and ON have all allocated 501 - 504. The DL beacons and OK0EMW are
> licenced to use spot frequencies around 505kHz. Gus SM6BHZ would be able 
> to
> use 504.0 - 504.1kHz.
>
>>
>> As by definition , if you  can transmit wspr  you  must be  able to  move
>> transmit  frequency (noting Andy's new beacon) establishing an over
>> lapping 100 hz section may be a reasonable  compromise ie move the  dial
>> frequency to say  502.5  or  499.5 , leaving 100 hz in band for uk access
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "James Moritz" <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>
>> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 2:14 PM
>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Subject: LF: Re: US 500-kHz band plan
>>
>>>
>>> Dear LF Group,
>>>
>>> I still haven't replied to Fritz Raab, W1FR, regarding the WD2XSH US 
>>> band
>>> plan which he is apparently coordinating - you may remember I posted the
>>> US
>>> proposals, which he sent me, a couple of weeks ago, but have not 
>>> received
>>> any comments from other UK/Eu stations. I think I should reply with
>>> something, so now is your chance... The proposal relates to the US
>>> allocation extending to 495 - 515kHz, and how that would fit in with
>>> current
>>> UK and Eu beacon operations. The content of the e-mail is below. The
>>> issue
>>> is that they would like to make a 501.0 - 501.2kHz WSPR sub-band, to fit
>>> in
>>> with the various other proposals. Various other types of beacon modes 
>>> are
>>> allocated frequencies outside the UK/EI/ON 501 - 504kHz range, while
>>> 501.2 -
>>> 504kHz is allocated to "general comms". Retaining frequencies just below
>>> 504kHz would divide their "general comms" band in two
>>>
>>> I don't think there is anything preventing us from doing this, it is 
>>> just
>>> the inconvenience of turning the current band "upside-down". Let me know
>>> what you think!
>>>
>>> Cheers, Jim Moritz
>>> 73 de M0BMU
>>>
>>>>>>From W1FR:
>>>
>>> Greetings:
>>>
>>>     Thanks for the comments on the band plan, passed
>>> along to me by W1XP.
>>>
>>>     About a month ago, a modification to the WD2XSH
>>> license was approved that adds stations and gives us
>>> access to 495 - 510 kHz.  Perhaps half of the 42 stations
>>> will eventually get on the air.  Because of NDBs, some
>>> stations are limited to parts of this band and we will
>>> have two calling frequencies and two beacon bands.
>>>
>>>     A draft of our new band plan follows.  Of particular
>>> interest is WSPR.  As I see it, our options are:
>>>
>>> (a)  501.0-501.2:  Conveniently on one side of our comms
>>>     band.  Will not overload WSPR receivers near 504 kHz.
>>>     Apparently in EU CW-beacon band.
>>>
>>> (b)  503.8-504.0:  Apparently same as what you guys are
>>>     using.  Cuts our comms band in the middle.  Nearby
>>>     stations may overload US receivers trying to hear EUs.
>>>
>>> (c)  503.9-504.1:  Same problems as above with cutting
>>>     comms band in two and overloading.  Conveniently
>>>     straddles both G/ON/EI and Canadian bands.
>>>
>>>     Any further thoughts you may have will be
>>> appreciated.
>>>
>>>
>>> 73, Fritz, W1FR
>>>
>>> Frederick H. (Fritz) Raab, Ph.D.
>>> GREEN MOUNTAIN RADIO RESEARCH COMPANY
>>> 77 Vermont Avenue, Fort Ethan Allen
>>> Colchester, Vermont 05446  USA
>>> Tel./Fax.:  +1 (802) 655-9670  Home:  +1 (802) 862-0997
>>> E-mail:  f.raab@ieee.org
>>>
>>> BASIC BAND PLAN for WD2XSH
>>>
>>> f, kHz          USE
>>>
>>> 495.0 - 495.1   QRSS, 1-Hz spacing, 40 stations
>>> 495.1 - 495.6   CW/PSK beacons midwest, 100-Hz spacing, 10 stations
>>> 495.6 - 499.0   Comms
>>> 497.5           Calling frequency
>>> 499.0 - 501.0   Reserved for heritage stations and special events
>>> 501.0 - 501.2   WSPR
>>> 501.2 - 505.0   Comms
>>> 505.0 - 505.2   DX window
>>> 505.2 - 508.5   Comms
>>> 507.5           Calling frequency
>>> 508.5 - 510.0   CW/PSK beacons east, south, west, Pacific, 50-Hz 
>>> spacing,
>>> 30
>>> stations
>>> 510.0 - 511.0   WE2XGR beacons
>>> 511.0 - 515.0   WE2XGR SSB and wideband modes
>>>
>>>
>>> OTHER IN-BAND SIGNALS
>>>
>>> 503.976         NEED LSB
>>> 505.0           NEED carrier
>>> 506.024         NEED USB
>>>
>>> 508.976         OF/FA LSB
>>> 510.0           OF/FA carrier
>>> 511.024         OF/FA USB
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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Dear Graham, LF Group,

The SNR you see with Spectrum Lab will depend also on the relation between 
the spectrogram bandwidth (depending mostly on the resolution of the Fast 
Fourier Transform process) and the spectrum of the signal being monitored. 
Usually, the signal has a larger bandwidth than the FFT "bin", so varying 
amounts of signal appear in different bins. So the SNR measured from the 
spectrum graph is only useful as a relative measure between signals of the 
same type, without further analysis to total up the signal power in 
different bins.

To get the SNR for a particular mode from the WSPR SNR data for 2500Hz BW, 
you need to take the different bandwidths into account:

mode SNR(dB) = WSPR SNR - 10log(mode bandwidth / 2500Hz)

So if WSPR was giving SNR of -10dB, the SNR for PSK31 with 62Hz bandwidth 
would be +6.1dB.

What SNR is actually needed for successful copy depends on the type of 
modulation, the effectiveness of error correction, how good the demodulator 
is, what the nature of the noise is, etc. I suppose for most modes it is 
between about 0 and +several dB

Cheers, Jim moritz
73 de M0BMU



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AA1A/Dave puts out a big signal on 500 CW, surprised you have not hear=
d him. I had several QSO'S earlier on in the year with him.
G3KEV

  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  K1JT and A1AA certainly appear to report a lot of Dx WSPR spots :-)
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  Best 'real' report last night was > 2000km, a TF station

  Andy
  www.g4jnt.com



  =20
  On 20/09/2009, John P-G <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk> wrote:=20
    Andy, LF

    Many spots last night - here's just one of them

    2352  -6  0.4   0.503851  0 G4JNT IO90 23

    And I wasn't even the best DX!

    Cheers,

    John
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Andrey,

agn thanks report and info !
Not bad for a singel W ..

73 de Gus


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> OK Gus
> 
> today:
> 
> 1954  -5  0.6   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 1956  -8  0.6   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 1958  -13  0.7   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2000  -9  0.7   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2002  -8  0.7   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2004  -13  0.8   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2006  -15  0.6   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2008  -9  0.7   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2016  -2  0.8   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2022  -9  0.7   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 30
> 2028  -10  0.8   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 30
> 2036  -15  0.9   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 30
> 2040  -14  0.8   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 30
> 2044  -11  0.9   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 30
> 2050  -10  0.8   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 30
> 2058  -17  0.7   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 30
> 2106  -12  0.7   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 30
> 2112  -9  0.9   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 30
> 
> 73
> 
> 
> 
>> Anderey,
>> thank's report and info !
>> Yesterday 21.30 i run 10 W erp, today i run only 1 W ERP and that is 
>> probobly the reason !
>> 
>> 73 de Gus SM6BHZ
>> 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Andrey rn3agc" <rn3agc@mail.ru>
>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 11:16 PM
>> Subject: LF: Re: SM6BHZ WSPR
>> 
>> 
>>> Hello Gus,
>>> Today bad propagation to Moscow. Yesterday it was much better.
>>> The most good your signal was yesterday at 21.32:
>>>
>>> 2132  1  -0.5   0.503931  SM6BHZ  JO57 40
>>>
>>> 73
>>> Andrey 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>
>




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James Moritz wrote:
> Dear Lawrence, John, LF group,
> 
> Thanks for monitoring the Wolf beacon last night.
> 
> The beacon is now (1846utc) running again in standard WOLF10 mode on 
> 503.500kHz - all being well, it will be going overnight. Any reports will be 
> very welcome.


Jim, LF

Thanks Lawrence for the tip re: samplerate calibration.

I've just started monitoring and find the following...


2009-09-09 20:55:49 >WOLF10  -r 7997.017 -f 1000 -t 1.0 -w 0.0000
t:  24 f: 0.276 a:-0.3 dp: 82.2 ci:14 cj:277 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t:  48 f: 0.280 a:-0.5 dp: 85.8 ci:15 cj:277 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t:  96 f: 0.285 a: 1.3 dp: 92.6 ci: 0 cj:276 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t: 192 f: 0.283 pm:762.8 jm:407 q:  8.1  8.3 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t: 288 f: 0.283 pm: 4746 jm:407 q: 12.1 12.2 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t: 384 f: 0.283 pm: 7531 jm:407 q: 14.8 15.3 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t: 480 f: 0.283 pm: 9261 jm:408 q: 15.5 15.8 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -

Now I suppose I should start reading around the subject to learn how to 
interpret the information!

Cheers all

John
GM4SLV


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Dear All,

Had a go with the WOLF but no decodes though I can see what I guess is Jim
M's monster sig smack in the middle of the waterfall in a rather fetching
orange colour.  I need to have a read up of the manual tomorrow and do the
calibrations etc and also fix the ant to try to heat the ground less.
(thanks to all the various kind folks who have forwarded lots of very useful
info to help me here).

For now I am back on WSPR 502.4

With best regards
 
 
Jim G7NKS
 
 
Dr. James Cowburn
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Subject: Re: LF: Re: RE: WOLF - ready to RX

Roger Lapthorn wrote:
> Well, easy for some (I can see) but NOT for me. What am I doing wrong?
> 


Roger,

Unfortunately I don't think I can help, as I'm a total novice at WOLF, 
so can't really come up with any quick fixes!

All I did was set the centre frequency to match the USB tuning offset - 
tune low 1kHz to 502.5 and set centre frequency to 1000Hz.

I think pretty much everything else standard.

Looking at my version I see that under "Mode"... I have "Receive Only" 
ticked, "WOLF 10[symbols/sec] " ---> "Normal Speed" ticked.

That's all I've done initially and it worked. Lawrence in China 
suggested I try to calibrate my soundcard, so I followed his suggestion.

I know, as has been discussed before, that WSPR is often touchy about 
soundcard sampling rates and string signals.

Don't know if WOLF is the same.

But at least can adjust for this in the software with WOLF though.

Tune to 197kHz in USB mode. THe Radio 4 carrier should be at 1kHz. If 
you've chosen a 1kHz centre frequency, on the WOLF Config tab there's a 
button marked "Cal" in the receive options area. Press it. It will work 
out a correction factor for your soundcard. I think you're then asked to 
accept the value offerred... do this and then start again. See if this 
fixes things.

As Dave YMC rightly comments - this might be one to try and then forget, 
although it seems (of setup correctly) to be quite sensitive.

Cheers,

John
GM4SLV






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Evening all - Ill have the China 500Khz grabber open in the 502.4 plus WSP=
R window or will be looking for other sigs as advised/asked.

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ot

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"Blog Blogger Bloggest Bloggy, Blogspot, Tweet Twit Twitter My face your=
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e (or valve)" you get the picture.

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Nice and fairly quiet on 137 and 500 at the moment so fingers crossed.

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&nbsp;<BR>
ot<BR>
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Nice and fairly quiet on 137 and 500 at the moment so fingers crossed.<BR>
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Hello Claude, LF!

Your signal was big last night - see the picture.

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS
                      
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Dear LF

I was running 20% duty, I'll shift mine down to 10% or up to 25% to try and
"outlace" with Gus who I obviously can't compete with! 

Working on new vertical with top load next.

Roger - not copied you yet and I am closer than Jim M but I know my antenna
will be down on Rx vs his.

Last night was really noisy here and also not many stations on so gave Tx a
rest after 11pm.  



With best regards
 
 
Jim
 
 
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-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dave Sergeant
Sent: 15 September 2009 07:58
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Subject: LF: Re: SM6BHZ - WSPR Rport nothing further

On 15 Sep 2009 at 7:12, Dave G3WCB wrote:

> No sign of any other stations last night. I'll be able to monitor again
> on Wednesday evening.

G7NKS was also on, as you see a bit weaker than Gus but seemed to be 
sharing the same time slots.
(note this is WSJT7 output, which is all that will run on my sound 
card:
Time, Sync, dB, DT, DF, Drift, Call, Locator
where DF is the relative frequency to the centre, 503.9kHz (give or 
take a few Hz...)

184000  10  -8  2.9    32  1  G7NKS IO92 23         
184400  10  -3  2.4    32  0  SM6BHZ JO57 40        
184800   7  -9  2.9    40  1  G7NKS IO92 23         
185000   8  -3  2.4    34  0  SM6BHZ JO57 40        
185800  13  -1  2.4    24  0  SM6BHZ JO57 40        
185800   9 -11  2.7    33  0  G7NKS IO92 23         
190200   6  -5  2.4    24  1  SM6BHZ JO57 40        
191000  11   4  2.3    24  0  SM6BHZ JO57 40        
191000   5 -14  2.9    34  0  G7NKS IO92 23

73 Dave G3YMC
         
http://www.davesergeant.com




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Currently 503.880kHz

73s
Roger

2009/9/15 Marco IK1ODO <ik1odo@spin-it.com>

> Roger,
>
> do you confirm 503.830 kHz?
>
> Marco IK1ODO
>
>
>
> At 21.46 15/09/2009, you wrote:
>
>> My 500kHz WSPR beacon is now back on again and will run overnight tonight.
>>
>> All reports appreciated. I'd also appreciate some screenshots please.
>>
>> Tomorrow I will try to do a small improvement to the ground system that
>> might be worth a couple of dBs.
>>
>> 73s
>> Roger
>>
>
>
>
>


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Currently 503.880kHz<br><br>73s<br>Roger<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"=
>2009/9/15 Marco IK1ODO <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ik1odo@spi=
n-it.com">ik1odo@spin-it.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_=
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Roger,<br>
<br>
do you confirm 503.830 kHz?<br><font color=3D"#888888">
<br>
Marco IK1ODO</font><div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
<br>
<br>
At 21.46 15/09/2009, you wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204,=
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My 500kHz WSPR beacon is now back on again and will run overnight tonight.=
<br>
<br>
All reports appreciated. I&#39;d also appreciate some screenshots please.<=
br>
<br>
Tomorrow I will try to do a small improvement to the ground system that mi=
ght be worth a couple of dBs.<br>
<br>
73s<br>
Roger<br>
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<br>
<br>
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Hi, Roger.

Nothing heard to date, but I'll be listening overnight. Only Jim so far.

1746 -11  0.6   0.503945 -1 G7NKS IO92 27
1758 -10  0.8   0.503943  0 G7NKS IO92 27
1810 -11  0.4   0.503942  0 G7NKS IO92 27
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1858 -19  1.0   0.503960  0 G7NKS IO92 27
1906 -20  0.6   0.503965  0 G7NKS IO92 27

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
  -----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Roger Lapthorn
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  Subject: LF: G3XBM's 500kHz QRPp WSPR beacon running again


  My 500kHz beacon has just been turned back on again. Any reports or
screenshots would be appreciated.  It would be lovely to have some reports
from a few new stations too and I'd just love to get >100kms with the
current QRP set-up.

  73s
  Roger
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D024301119-18092009><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000=
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Dave G3WCB IO91RM</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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; It would=20
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From: YO2IS
  Hello from KN05ps, was pleased to hear and see the
 QRSS3 signals from G3KEV on 502.5 KHz up to S3, using
 my HM setup, 500KHz/14 MHz conv uA1496, 41m sloping
 wire tunned with a 0.3mH vario and GW4ALG like TU, and
 ARGO on a 'historic' 475 MHz WIN98se machine...
  Have sent 'O' report on 7033 KHz and we succeded in 
 a nice X band QSO, received the following msgs:

  YO2IS G3KEV 5NN K  then  IS KEV QSL O O 73 TU SK

  The level of signals was enough for a CW QSO !, its
 my best 500m ODX, KN05ps -> IO94sh = 1911 Km... Will 
 QSLL direct next days...would be happy to get yours.
  Our experimental beacon YO2X will be activated
 randomly on 505.723 KHz, QRSS3 and CW id, 50W and
 the 41m wire...some day do reactivate also my 137.7...

   73 & DX, Szigy.



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>From tomorrow (Monday 2009/09/07) my beacon on 503.7kHz will be off for a
few days pending various odd jobs around here.   Hopefully it should be back
again next weekend.

As we approach the winter months, would it be worth modifying to add a WSPR
transmission as well?   I don't want to stop the 15 minute timed signal on
503.7 for auto logging, but it wouldn't be too difficult to add a WSPR
transmission between those, on a different frequency somewhere in the 503.8
to 504.0 range.

Andy
www.g4jnt.com

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<div>From tomorrow (Monday 2009/09/07) my beacon on 503.7kHz will be off=
 for a few days=A0pending various odd jobs around here.=A0=A0 Hopefully it=
 should be back again next weekend.</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>As we approach the winter months, would it be worth modifying to add=
 a WSPR transmission as well?=A0=A0 I don&#39;t want to stop the 15 minute=
 timed signal on 503.7=A0for auto logging, but it wouldn&#39;t be too diff=
icult to add a WSPR transmission between those, on a different frequency=
 somewhere in the 503.8 to 504.0 range.</div>

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Hi Jean-Pierre,
It, probably, was beacon UA4WPF.

73
Andrey


> Hello LF ,
> 
> My antenna was in directection of the USA , I raised of the traces on 
> 137777. 2 , I suppose that it is ACG in beaconning !
> 
> 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj
>




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Tnx, Henny, fer agn capture on 505.090kHz. Pwr 0.4W ERP.
73   Walter  DJ2LF / DI2AG

  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Hi LF,
  Capture 505khz
  Henny pa3cpm
  73s
  Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden=
 verzonden:
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  Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen vir=
ussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet to=
e. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt we=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tnx, Henny, fer agn capture on 505.09=
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi LF,</FONT></DIV>
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Thanks Jim - good work on the antennae - I love them Cherry pickers ! as=
 for 504 - I dont know as I havent looked into it very deeply and it must=
 be a common issue but even on the smallest near efficient antennae we see=
 tram lines; as you say and in my case they could be a mix of local artifa=
cts - that wouldnt suprise me at all as I have 100 neighbors all within a=
 100m horiz and vertical distance -  but thankfully the antenna sits outsi=
de a virtual Faraday cage as most of the reinforcing of the building is ho=
lding and dumping  the QRM inside the "box" - if I dont ground the coaxs=
 before entry the QRM sits over S9 plus - with it S4/5.

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Im game for WOLF at any ones convienence and just cal'd the decoder using=
 the 30 over signal from 60/68.5/39kHz and moreover 10Mhz to tweek the ind=
uctor and stab Osc in the R75.

=20

Thanks for the signals - all very interesting. Long Haul - and Eu is defin=
ately that, werent so good last night in general and I noticed more attenu=
ation at LF/MF on the remote Alaskan receiver too.

=20

=20

LaurenceTanggu Tianjin China

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> From: james.moritz@btopenworld.com
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 14:02:26 +0100
> Subject: LF: Re: WSPR/Questions
>=20
> Dear Laurence, Roman, LF Group,
>=20
> I shut the beacon down at 0446utc this morning. The frequency was 503.97=
5kHz=20
> as advertised. Thanks for the overnight reports, nice to see spots from=
=20
> W1TAG again and from Russia for the first time. I transmitted in about=
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> of the 2 minute periods between about 1940 and 2050utc, but saw nothing=
 like=20
> a signal in the BY3 grabber, although the frequency seemed mostly clear.=
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> Conditions were relatively noisy here with more QRN than the previous ni=
ght.
>=20
> The antenna is a top-loaded vertical with 3 wires in a sort of Y shape=
 in=20
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> fibreglass mast. To "jack up" the antenna, I have an old "cherry picker"=
 (or=20
> aerial access platform or whatever you wish to call it) which is slowly=
=20
> sinking into my lawn. The bottom of the mast is bolted to the cherry pic=
ker=20
> where the operator's basket used to be, so the whole mast can be raised=
 into=20
> the air. This allows a total maximum height of about 19m if I am feeling=
=20
> brave; last night the middle of the antenna span was raised to about 17m=
.=20
> Previous FS measurements have shown this gives about 3 - 4dB improvement=
 in=20
> ERP due to the increased height and radiation resistance, along with a=
=20
> slight reduction in loss resistance. The total length of wire in the ant=
enna=20
> stays the same, but gets further from the ground, so antenna capacitance=
=20
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> signal...
>=20
> Cross-band QSOs from M0BMU are unfortunately difficult at the moment due=
 to=20
> the high QRM levels on the lower HF bands here - I am hoping some work=
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>=20
> The 504kHz signal seems to be present in many widely-seperated QTHs - do=
n't=20
> know about W/VE though? It seems to be different at each location. Here=
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=20
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> I would be quite interested to try WOLF again - although it needs more=
=20
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>=20
> Roman, there are some pdf files on the UK 500kHz group site about some=
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Thanks Jim - good work on the antennae&nbsp;- I love them Cherry pickers=
 ! as for 504 - I dont know as I havent looked into it very deeply and it=
 must be a common issue but even on the smallest&nbsp;near efficient anten=
nae we see tram lines; as you say and in my case&nbsp;they could be a mix=
 of local artifacts - that wouldnt suprise me at all as I have 100 neighbo=
rs all within a 100m horiz and&nbsp;vertical distance - &nbsp;but thankful=
ly&nbsp;the antenna sits&nbsp;outside a virtual Faraday cage as&nbsp;most=
 of the reinforcing of the building is&nbsp;holding&nbsp;and dumping&nbsp;=
 the&nbsp;QRM inside the "box" - if I dont ground the coaxs before entry=
 the QRM sits over S9 plus - with it S4/5.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Im game for WOLF at any ones convienence and just cal'd the decoder&nbsp;u=
sing the 30 over signal from 60/68.5/39kHz and moreover 10Mhz to tweek the=
 inductor and stab Osc in the R75.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Thanks for the signals - all very interesting. Long Haul - and Eu is defin=
ately that, werent so good last night in general and I noticed more attenu=
ation at LF/MF on the remote Alaskan receiver too.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
LaurenceTanggu Tianjin China<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
<BR>&nbsp;<BR>&gt; From: james.moritz@btopenworld.com<BR>&gt; To: rsgb_lf_=
group@blacksheep.org<BR>&gt; Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 14:02:26 +0100<BR>&gt;=
 Subject: LF: Re: WSPR/Questions<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Dear Laurence, Roman, LF=
 Group,<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; I shut the beacon down at 0446utc this morning.=
 The frequency was 503.975kHz <BR>&gt; as advertised. Thanks for the overn=
ight reports, nice to see spots from <BR>&gt; W1TAG again and from Russia=
 for the first time. I transmitted in about 75% <BR>&gt; of the 2 minute=
 periods between about 1940 and 2050utc, but saw nothing like <BR>&gt; a=
 signal in the BY3 grabber, although the frequency seemed mostly clear. <B=
R>&gt; Conditions were relatively noisy here with more QRN than the previo=
us night.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; The antenna is a top-loaded vertical with 3 wir=
es in a sort of Y shape in <BR>&gt; the horizontal plane. Where the wires=
 meet, it is supported by a 10m <BR>&gt; fibreglass mast. To "jack up" the=
 antenna, I have an old "cherry picker" (or <BR>&gt; aerial access platfor=
m or whatever you wish to call it) which is slowly <BR>&gt; sinking into=
 my lawn. The bottom of the mast is bolted to the cherry picker <BR>&gt;=
 where the operator's basket used to be, so the whole mast can be raised=
 into <BR>&gt; the air. This allows a total maximum height of about 19m if=
 I am feeling <BR>&gt; brave; last night the middle of the antenna span wa=
s raised to about 17m. <BR>&gt; Previous FS measurements have shown this=
 gives about 3 - 4dB improvement in <BR>&gt; ERP due to the increased heig=
ht and radiation resistance, along with a <BR>&gt; slight reduction in los=
s resistance. The total length of wire in the antenna <BR>&gt; stays the=
 same, but gets further from the ground, so antenna capacitance <BR>&gt;=
 actually reduces slightly. The things we do to try and get a better <BR>&=
gt; signal...<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Cross-band QSOs from M0BMU are unfortunatel=
y difficult at the moment due to <BR>&gt; the high QRM levels on the lower=
 HF bands here - I am hoping some work on <BR>&gt; dedicated HF receiving=
 antennas here will improve this soon.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; The 504kHz signal=
 seems to be present in many widely-seperated QTHs - don't <BR>&gt; know=
 about W/VE though? It seems to be different at each location. Here it <BR=
>&gt; is a rather weak carrier with no audible modulation, on the spectrog=
ram it <BR>&gt; can be seen to have a couple of stronger spectral lines an=
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 to vary over time, possibly <BR>&gt; due to QSB. They can't all be RTE/At=
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adcast stations. 504kHz is also a multiple of 8kHz, as <BR>&gt; is 136kHz=
 - it was suggested at one time that the weak carriers audible in <BR>&gt;=
 many places on 136.0kHz could be harmonics of the 8kHz clock rate used in=
 <BR>&gt; wired telecomms.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; I would be quite interested to=
 try WOLF again - although it needs more <BR>&gt; careful coordination wit=
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 on the UK 500kHz group site about some of my <BR>&gt; LF/MF gear - you ar=
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welcome back Scott - Im stuck in Beijing your old watering hole  this week=
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L.
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> Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 22:09:43 -0700
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> Still tweaking but the VE7TIL 2200m grabber is back.
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welcome back Scott - Im stuck in Beijing your old watering hole &nbsp;this=
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L.<BR>&nbsp;<BR>&gt; Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 22:09:43 -0700<BR>&gt; From:=
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Captured last night on 137,778 with many QRN.
 
F4DTL  Nicolas JN18FP

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WD2XES will be running in WSPR mode tonight starting around 2330Z. Set 
your receiver for 136.1 kHz, USB. If everything is stable, I'll let it 
run until 0500Z.

John, W1TAG/WD2XES


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Hello LF'ers,
I have spent the Weekend in a countryside, locator KO86NP.
DI2AM and SK6RUD it was perfectly audible on Degen1103, ~23z RST 559!
No counterbalances and external aerials were used, reception was on own telescopic aerial of the receiver!
The receiver works in "the expanded" mode.

73 Andrey


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At 10:59 AM 9/11/2009, Jay wrote:
>WE2XGR/2 will transmit in WOLF mode tonight from 2230 - 0330Z on 
>508.5 kHz. Local sunset is 2300Z. Reports are always appreciated.

Here is a spectral plot showing both signals together.  Actually, 200 
Hz was overkill separation as you can see...

http://www.nrtco.net/~ve2iq/jay_john.gif

The red marker just above the arrow cursor signifies 800 Hz.  Jay 
(with the big signal) is 100 Hz lower at about 700 Hz,
John is 100 Hz higher at about 900 Hz.  There is a curious spike at 1 
Khz - not sure what it is.  At the time the S-meter
on the TS850 had *no* dots showing on the S-meter so I'd hardly think 
it could be some non-linearity in the radio.  Could
be something in the sound card I guess.

If anyone wants to look at the raw data, I cut out the first part of 
the recording, converted it from 16-bit to 8-bit format.
It still works OK.  The actual sampling rate was 8200.389.  Jay's 
audio freq was 699.988 Hz, John's audio was 899.988 Hz.

To decode Jay, use: WOLF -r 8200.389 -f 699.988 -t 0.2
To decode John use: WOLF -r 8200.389 -f 899.988 -t 0.2

The file is still about 5 Mb (they don't zip too well) - you can 
download it from here:

http://www.nrtco.net/~ve2iq/wolfr.wav

73,
Bill VE2IQ



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hi Andrey LF group
thank you very much for Andrey control reception 
your grabber qro it is very delightful to real-time monitoring 
and the propagation is very well
good week good evening everyone 
Claude F8boj JN16WA

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> Hi Claude, LF,
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> 73 Andrey



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Dear Roger, LF Group,

The M0BMU WSPR beacon shut down at 0640utc - thanks for all the overnight 
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G3XBM started decoding here at 0502, and is being quite consistently 
received now the QRN has died down, although not very strong of course...


Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU





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Hi John, LF,
The one I use is ExpressPCB (for boards) & ExpressSCH (for schematics) both
free, they may be suitable.

Go to - http://www.expresspcb.com/

<http://www.expresspcb.com/>73

Gary - G4WGT.

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<span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-family: arial, sans-serif;=
 font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse; ">Hi John, LF,<div><br></div>=
<div>The one I use is ExpressPCB (for boards) &amp; ExpressSCH (for schema=
tics) both free, they may be suitable.=A0</div>
<div><br></div><div>Go to -=A0<a href=3D"http://www.expresspcb.com/" targe=
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Hello Gus, Gary, LF!
I am back from my vacation and QRV on 600m:

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1858 -23  1.2   1.503911  0 G4WGT IO83 27

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Hello LF!

0044 -31  1.4   1.503960  0 WD2XSH FN42 37
0054 -29  1.5   1.503960  0 WD2XSH FN42 37

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Jim,

I did post a email on this a short while ago, Gus , I thin was the only one 
to  respond and  subsequently lowered his operating  frequency to  fall 
inside the , set 502.4 usb dial  frequency in use in the  UK.

As the  European allocation looks to  be  wider than the  Uk, are we 
expecting the  UK 3 Khz  allocation to  remain as is, if  and when the  band 
is formalised ?, in which case loosing 200 hz may not be the  most sensible 
option ...

As by definition , if you  can transmit wspr  you  must be  able to  move 
transmit  frequency (noting Andy's new beacon) establishing an over lapping 
100 hz section may be a reasonable  compromise ie move the  dial frequency 
to say  502.5  or  499.5 , leaving 100 hz in band for uk access

Graham

G0NBD.







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>
> Dear LF Group,
>
> I still haven't replied to Fritz Raab, W1FR, regarding the WD2XSH US band
> plan which he is apparently coordinating - you may remember I posted the 
> US
> proposals, which he sent me, a couple of weeks ago, but have not received
> any comments from other UK/Eu stations. I think I should reply with
> something, so now is your chance... The proposal relates to the US
> allocation extending to 495 - 515kHz, and how that would fit in with 
> current
> UK and Eu beacon operations. The content of the e-mail is below. The issue
> is that they would like to make a 501.0 - 501.2kHz WSPR sub-band, to fit 
> in
> with the various other proposals. Various other types of beacon modes are
> allocated frequencies outside the UK/EI/ON 501 - 504kHz range, while 
> 501.2 -
> 504kHz is allocated to "general comms". Retaining frequencies just below
> 504kHz would divide their "general comms" band in two
>
> I don't think there is anything preventing us from doing this, it is just
> the inconvenience of turning the current band "upside-down". Let me know
> what you think!
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
>>>>From W1FR:
>
> Greetings:
>
>     Thanks for the comments on the band plan, passed
> along to me by W1XP.
>
>     About a month ago, a modification to the WD2XSH
> license was approved that adds stations and gives us
> access to 495 - 510 kHz.  Perhaps half of the 42 stations
> will eventually get on the air.  Because of NDBs, some
> stations are limited to parts of this band and we will
> have two calling frequencies and two beacon bands.
>
>     A draft of our new band plan follows.  Of particular
> interest is WSPR.  As I see it, our options are:
>
> (a)  501.0-501.2:  Conveniently on one side of our comms
>     band.  Will not overload WSPR receivers near 504 kHz.
>     Apparently in EU CW-beacon band.
>
> (b)  503.8-504.0:  Apparently same as what you guys are
>     using.  Cuts our comms band in the middle.  Nearby
>     stations may overload US receivers trying to hear EUs.
>
> (c)  503.9-504.1:  Same problems as above with cutting
>     comms band in two and overloading.  Conveniently
>     straddles both G/ON/EI and Canadian bands.
>
>     Any further thoughts you may have will be
> appreciated.
>
>
> 73, Fritz, W1FR
>
> Frederick H. (Fritz) Raab, Ph.D.
> GREEN MOUNTAIN RADIO RESEARCH COMPANY
> 77 Vermont Avenue, Fort Ethan Allen
> Colchester, Vermont 05446  USA
> Tel./Fax.:  +1 (802) 655-9670  Home:  +1 (802) 862-0997
> E-mail:  f.raab@ieee.org
>
> BASIC BAND PLAN for WD2XSH
>
> f, kHz          USE
>
> 495.0 - 495.1   QRSS, 1-Hz spacing, 40 stations
> 495.1 - 495.6   CW/PSK beacons midwest, 100-Hz spacing, 10 stations
> 495.6 - 499.0   Comms
> 497.5           Calling frequency
> 499.0 - 501.0   Reserved for heritage stations and special events
> 501.0 - 501.2   WSPR
> 501.2 - 505.0   Comms
> 505.0 - 505.2   DX window
> 505.2 - 508.5   Comms
> 507.5           Calling frequency
> 508.5 - 510.0   CW/PSK beacons east, south, west, Pacific, 50-Hz spacing, 
> 30
> stations
> 510.0 - 511.0   WE2XGR beacons
> 511.0 - 515.0   WE2XGR SSB and wideband modes
>
>
> OTHER IN-BAND SIGNALS
>
> 503.976         NEED LSB
> 505.0           NEED carrier
> 506.024         NEED USB
>
> 508.976         OF/FA LSB
> 510.0           OF/FA carrier
> 511.024         OF/FA USB
>
>
>



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Last night I was sharing the output from the baby bottle probe between the=
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 Argo on a second computer. Well the impedance matching may be off but it=
 works ok, but qrn was pretty bad but looks like some qrss on 137.7785 at=
 my dawn - I havent cal'd the sdr on this computer but will do that in a=
 while so this freq maybe off.

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On MF things were good and we got Gus a whole 30 mins earlier tonight.

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Chris, Jim, all,

Remember that despite the fancy signal coding, the end result with WOLF is a simple BPSK signal sent at 10 bits/second, i.e., the phase is flipped 0/180 degrees as fast as 10 times a second. In that sense, it's the same modulation scheme as the familiar PSK31, but at a slower rate and with less shaped keying. PSK31 has a highly shaped amplitude envelope - slow rise and fall times, easily noted on an oscilloscope connected to your transmitter output. There's a signal to noise tradeoff in doing that, however, as the transmitter is at full power for only a portion of each bit. But the reduced keying clicks are important in a high-power narrow environment, such as the PSK31 section of 20 meters.

WOLF keying has a faster rise and fall time, giving some s/n improvement, but creating the sidebands you see in the waterfall display with a strong signal. Remember that each of those sidebands is flipping in phase right in step with the main carrier, and you can center one on the waterfall and get a decode assuming the signal is strong enough. 

WOLF is unnecessarily complex for communication where the signal is audible, and is of real value only for very weak signals. At 137 kHz, it can be copied under conditions that support only QRSS30 or 60 rates, and it can offer much better data throughput. But for weak signals that require build-up of copy over many minutes, the accuracy of the audio tone and the sound card sampling rate can become issues. With strong signals, the frames of data can slew all over the place, and you will still get decodes.

I have done a number of WOLF QSO's, and they are not difficult. You only need to work out the concept of time slots in advance, and what sort of response will be given in case of good/no copy. There are articles on my web site describing some of these QSO's. The most amazing one was a 1000 km 2-way with 1 watt TRANSMITTER output in the early afternoon. Think about that one...

My results on copying Jim last night were the worst of the week, and I don't know why! Part of the problem was that I was out of the house for most of the evening, and am not sure about noise levels, which may have been higher due to an approaching coastal storm. 

John, W1TAG


---- Chris <c.ashby435@btinternet.com> wrote: 
> Hi All,
> I don't understand some of these comments about critical set up, frequency etc. I just downloaded the program, connected to the RX and it worked. Could it be because Jim is extremely strong here? I can tune +/- 200Hz off and it still decodes. I haven't worked out if/how it 'locks' to the signal. Maybe it would not be possible to receive a nearby weaker signal??
> I find some of the documentation a bit daunting, has anybody written a simple explanation of how to set the system up properly?
> Not sure how useful it would be in reality for a QSO, inclined to think CW would be the best bet. Seems very limited as is.
> Vy 73, Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent, JO01MI.



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Jim, Andy, LF Group,
I am not in the position to put in anything re transmitting on 500kHz=
 myself
but I would like to stronly support the position of Jim M0MBU.=20
WSPR is a vy interesting mode and its advantages of having an "automat=
ic"
background in logging and distributing the reception results is really
fascinating.=20
And as John, F5VLF had put it just recently and as he urged us (the
amateurs) to keep on experimenting: "...To cite just two examples of=
 this
ingenuity (the ham's): transmitting loops seem to have been almost unk=
nown
to the old-time professionals, and some of the low data rate systems=
 we have
been experimenting with would have been impracticable then. ...".=20
We have different modes now and different means to detect weak signals=
 and
WSPR is definitely one mode in this group with new advantages!
We are neither ships (exception DI2AM) nor do we have powerful transmi=
tters
with huge antennas beside the sea (maybe you guys in G-land have it an=
d we
just don't know it, hi!), so we still have a lot to find out.
I am very greatful for all amateurs who make great personal efforts to
provide beacons for the rest of us!
73
de
Klaus
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I don't "do" contests but do use them to make new contacts and when I have
given 5-5 or 5-7 they have either queried it or ignored me and moved on, and
I have lost count of the number of times I have had to repeat suffix/prefix
or serial number and then been given 5-9...hmmmm

Lowfering is much more fun!! (if a little frustrating at times!).  WSPR was
easy to get going but WOLF is looking like a "douleur dans la derriere".

I am guessing that the big bright orange band in the middle of my green
waterfall last night was Dr. Moritz and his Grimeton-esque transmitter but I
got no decodes.  I did try the 197KHz calibration trick but to no effect.  I
need to RTFM as I am still clueless as to what all the numbers mean and I
guess my lack of decodes has more to do with operator error than the
proximity of Jim's TX (though I am sure I can see a glow of Cherenkov
radiation in his direction in the night sky).

I haven't heard Chris XIZ recently so haven't been able to practice my CW?

Anyone going to Loughborough?  

Hopefully if I get my ant sorted I'll be on this Sunday and next week a
little less QRPp (or is that a double double negative?)



With best regards
 
 
Jim
 
 
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of John RABSON
Sent: 11 September 2009 12:44
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Subject: Re: LF: RE: WSPR G7NKS

On 11/09/2009 at 07:05 John P-G wrote:

>"your report is 59 please repeat your name and QTH"

You think you are joking!  A couple of years ago a G6+2 came back to me with
just that.  I think we should get rid of RS(T) in contests and make the
RoPoCo contest international.  

John F5VLF





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Hi Roger

 

That's how I started with femtowatts!!  I'll be looking for you on WSPR

 

With best regards

 

 

Jim

 

 

Dr. James Cowburn

 

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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Roger Lapthorn
Sent: 13 September 2009 16:51
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: G3XBM TXing on 500kHz WSPR (after a fashion) tonight

 

Good folks,

I've now got a most basic WSPR TX system on-air transverting my FT817 TX
from 28MHz down to 500kHz. It is only putting out 700mW from the TX, so only
microwatts being radiated from the poor antenna at the moment. Although I
cannot yet transceive on 500kHz, when I get back from holiday in a few weeks
I will set to work getting more power, full transceive and a moderately
credible antenna.

However, nothing ventured nothing gained, I will put this WSPR TX on the air
this evening starting shortly in case anyone can hear me.  Any WSPR spot
reports would fill me with total amazement and delight.

73s
Roger
G3XBM

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
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w I started with
femtowatts!! &nbsp;I&#8217;ll be looking for you on WSPR<o:p></o:p></s=
pan></font></p>

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t-family:Tahoma'>
owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksh=
eep.org] <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>R=
oger Lapthorn<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 13 September 2009=
 16:51<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> rsgb_lf_group@black=
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<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> LF: G3XBM TXin=
g on 500kHz
WSPR (after a fashion) tonight</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'>Good folks,<br>
<br>
I've now got a most basic <st1:place w:st=3D"on"><st1:City w:st=3D"on"=
>WSPR</st1:City>
 <st1:State w:st=3D"on">TX</st1:State></st1:place> system on-air trans=
verting my
FT817 TX from 28MHz down to 500kHz. It is only putting out 700mW from=
 the TX,
so only microwatts being radiated from the poor antenna at the moment.=
 Although
I cannot yet transceive on 500kHz, when I get back from holiday in a=
 few weeks
I will set to work getting more power, full transceive and a moderatel=
y
credible antenna.<br>
<br>
However, nothing ventured nothing gained, <u>I will put this WSPR TX=
 on the air
this evening</u> starting shortly in case <i><span style=3D'font-style=
:italic'>anyone</span></i>
can hear me.&nbsp; Any WSPR spot reports would fill me with total amaz=
ement and
delight.<br>
<br>
73s<br>
Roger<br>
G3XBM<br clear=3Dall>
<br>
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om/</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.g3xbm.co.uk">http://www.g3xbm.co.uk</a><br>
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OK Jay no problem, i would be in stand by on 508.5 kHz at 2230Z
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Your QRSS3 signal is very good, just 25dB over the noise (137.700kHz).

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Jim,

Thanks very much for the report! Nice to know that the path works both ways.

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Hi!

At 21:00:00Z a 559 signal started.

As far as I can say, 
using a free running & open air VFO
and a low-cost-counter, 
qrg seems to be 503.98kHz.

Gus, is it You? :)

vy73
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Good morning Jim, Gus, LF!
Sunrise come to Moscow, prop is finished at once.
Full WSPR log here:
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* James Moritz <james.moritz@btopenworld.com> [Sun, 6 Sep 2009 21:05:12 
+0100]:
> Dear LF Group,
>
> The M0BMU WSPR beacon is running again - I have jacked up the antenna 
to
> increase the ERP a bit. G4WGT and G7NKS are also active - any reports
> would
> be very welcome.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
>




--
Roman RW3ADB.


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Roger Lapthorn wrote:
> Thanks for this John. I am not one to give up easily, HI, so will keep
> trying until it's sorted.
> 

That's good! Once it's sorted we need some real QRPp signals or real DX 
to try it with.


> 
> Incidentally, WSPR I found exceedingly easy on this PC - perhaps I was
> lucky.

That probably bodes well, in respect of soundcard sampling rate at least

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Hi Willhem,

thank's report and info !

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Gary,

Leaving the  beacon plotter  running is quite  useful as its giving a=
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Hello John,

thank's report and info.
i run abt 10 dB more power this evening in WSPR until midnight.

73 de Gus SM6BHZ
www.sm6bhz.com


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Andrews" <w1tag@charter.net>
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Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 12:56 PM
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> Had 12 lines of SM6BHZ copy last night between 0152 and 0420 from my 
> home QTH in Massachusetts. No sign of other calls. The spots have been 
> loaded to the MEPT database.
> 
> John, W1TAG (FN42ch)
>




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goodnight and edgard group lf=20
This morning the active stations on 137 kHz.=20
Mobmu .. OO .. Jim=20
HB9asb .. OO .. ..... Toni I hope one qso=20
F6cwa ... OO .. Hubert=20
F6bwo ... OO .. Jeff=20
F4dtl Nicolas ... OO ..=20
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8 active stations received here=20
congratulations for the 137 khz activity
good evening=20
F8boj Claude JN16WA ...
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  dr Claude, LF group

  any station in 3sec-mode on the screen this morning:

  F8BOJ "O", tu for the QSO! dr Claude.
  HB9ASB "M", i hope for a QSO soon!
  SO5AS "M", tu for QSO again Steve!
  F6BWO "O"
  M0BMU "O"
  F4DTL "T"

  GL 73 Edgar
  DL2HRE jo51tq=20

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Hello Lubos and LF,

thanks report and info!

73 de Gus SM6BHZ

www.sm6bhz.com
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Lubos OK2BVG=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 9:09 PM
  Subject: LF: WSPR_BHZ


  Hello Gus, LF!

  1834 -14  0.4   1.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
  1838  -6  0.6   1.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
  1846  -2  0.3   1.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
  1852  -9  0.5   1.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
  1858  -5  0.5   1.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
  1906  -6  0.7   1.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40

  Lubos, OK2BVG


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<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4 face=3DArial>Hello Lubos and=20
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<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4 face=3DArial>thanks report and=20
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: WSPR_BHZ</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>Hello Gus, LF!<BR><BR>1834 -14&nbsp; 0.4&nbsp;&nbsp;=
=20
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  1.503925&nbsp; 0 SM6BHZ JO57 40<BR><BR>Lubos, OK2BVG<BR><BR>
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I was getting 579 from BOSTON/USA from NC1K on 137 khz over the years on CW 
which I thought was good using simple equipment like a manual morse key, 
home built mosfet class D TX/PA and an inv L antenna, also regular QSO'S 
with Russian stations. I am able to do the same on 500 KCS. I am surprised 
you have difficulty with my signal, I expect the problem is your end.
NC1K was a professional CW operator (Radio Officer) unfortunately now silent 
key.
de G3KEV



----- Original Message ----- 
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On 01/09/2009 at 20:17 mal hamilton wrote:

>Roger I am stating the facts, someone else mentioned seeing the signals
>on the waterfall but they were not decoding. I could easlily have made a
>qso on cw given the strength of signals whereas WSPR was not decoding, so
>the exercise is pointless.

That was me.  I wasn't decoding because I don't yet have a decoder.  Had I 
had one, and given the snr I observed, I would have expected 100% copy.  On 
the few occasions I have heard Mal, his snr has not been anything like as 
good as WSPR.

John F5VLF





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Hello James,

very good copy here with K9AY
and Perseus SDR.

      2009-09-16 20:28   M0BMU   0.503840   +14   0   IO91vr   2   DL4RAJ   JN68kj   1003 
107


73
Clemens
DL4RAJ 



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Dear Jim, LF group

Copied Your signal this evening:


t: 96 f: 0.004 a:-1.2 dp: 77.5 ci: 5 cj:113 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -

t: 192 f: 0.000 pm:37.87 jm:734 q: -3.7 -4.4 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -

t: 288 f: 0.000 pm:83.22 jm:734 q: -0.5 -0.9 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -

t: 384 f: 0.000 pm:133.7 jm:734 q: 2.4 2.4 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -

t: 480 f: 0.000 pm:156.2 jm:734 q: 3.2 3.3 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -

t: 576 f: 0.000 pm:157.9 jm:734 q: 3.5 3.2 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -

t: 672 f: 0.000 pm:159.6 jm:734 q: 3.5 3.5 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -

t: 768 f: 0.000 pm:159.8 jm:734 q: 3.4 3.8 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -

t: 864 f: 0.000 pm:162.2 jm:734 q: 3.4 3.7 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -

t: 960 f: 0.000 pm:167.5 jm:734 q: 3.4 3.9 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -

t:1056 f: 0.000 pm:169.4 jm:734 q: 3.6 3.7 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -

t:1152 f: 0.000 pm:170.7 jm:734 q: 3.7 3.5 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -

t:1248 f:-0.020 pm:199.4 jm:734 q: 4.7 3.8 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -

t:1344 f:-0.020 pm:223.6 jm:734 q: 5.2 4.5 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -

t:1440 f:-0.020 pm:226.3 jm:734 q: 5.6 5.0 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -

t:1536 f:-0.020 pm:230.5 jm:734 q: 6.2 5.7 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -

--
Vy 73!
Marcin SQ2BXI

QTH: Gdansk, JO94GJ





----- Original Message ----- 
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> Dear Lawrence, John, LF group,
>
> Thanks for monitoring the Wolf beacon last night.
>
> The beacon is now (1846utc) running again in standard WOLF10 mode on
> 503.500kHz - all being well, it will be going overnight. Any reports will
be
> very welcome.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Laurence BY3A-KL1X China" <hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 3:34 PM
> Subject: LF: tonight
>
>
>
> Ill leave the receiver on wspr on 502.4, Wolf10 on 503.5 and upload the
wspr
> window to http://kl1x.com/dx00000.jpg - if the processor can take it :-)
>
>
>



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Hi Lubos,

thanks report and info !

73 de Gus SM6BHZ
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  Hello Gus, Gary, LF!
  I am back from my vacation and QRV on 600m:

  1850  -9  0.8   1.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 33
  1858 -23  1.2   1.503911  0 G4WGT IO83 27

  Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS



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Hi Dave

Clock synchronization is key to WSPR, anything much more than 1 second out
between you and the other station will result in no decodes (been there done
that!)despite bold traces on the waterfall.  Also the WSPR program only
covers some 200Hz so unless the frequency is within that block it won't pick
it up.  

I use a little routine that continually links my pc clock to a time server
and updates every 30 mins as my pc clock drifts like mad esp when the cpu is
busy.  I gather you may already be doing this so I'm probably teaching
granny to suck eggs!

HTH


With best regards
 
 
Jim
 
 
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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dave Sergeant
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Subject: LF: Re: WSPR beacon

On 4 Sep 2009 at 21:48, James Moritz wrote:

> Dear LF Group,
> 
> The M0BMU WSPR beacon is running again tonight 0n 503.975kHz (502.4k
> "dial frequency"). Any reports are very welcome. Also a very strong
> signal from SM6BHZ tonight.
> 
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU 
> 
> 

Well prompted by all the mails on here I have just installed the WSPR 
software and had a listen to your signals this morning.

I noticed a couple of things which might explain why I was not getting 
any decodes:

1. On switch on of my K2 and Datong UC1 which I use for 500kHz receive 
there is a noticeable drift, initially as high as 10Hz in the 2 minute 
sampling period but eventually dropping to within 1Hz. I could not find 
a spec as to how stable the receiver needs to be for WSPR. I believe 
most of this drift is the 116MHz downconverter crystal in the UC1, 
which is a big limitation to using it as a serious 500kHz receiver.
2. Although I synchronised my computer clock to the time standards, and 
it seems just a fraction of a second different from my 60kHz clock, 
your transmissions seemed to be starting a second or two early, before 
my WSPR started receiving, and finishing at around the 1.52 minutes 
point. Is your clock out, or is this how it is supposed to work?
3. You are of course s9+ at this range, and show as bright red on 
WSPR's spectrogram. Hardly 'weak signal'. Does the software cope with 
strong signals or does it overload?

The only decode I got was for 'C1N/NU0RWS' in one of your non-transmit 
periods. With things like that coming out of white noise it doesn't 
give me much confidence in some of the other things the WSPR folks are 
bragging about....

It does though work OK on 30m and I have decoded a few Eu stations so I 
would have thought I would have been able to copy Jim.

I guess this will be another few days little play before I go back to 
more useful things...

73 Dave G3YMC


I have received a few Eu stations on 30m
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Yes, looking forward to a CW QSO Mal when I've got the TX together and a
half decent antenna. On the digital stuff we can agree to disagree.

All the best

Roger
G3XBM



2009/9/1 mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>

>  Roger I am stating the facts, someone else mentioned seeing the signals
> on the waterfall but they were not decoding. I could easlily have made a qso
> on cw given the strength of signals whereas WSPR was not decoding, so the
> exercise is pointless.
> Get active on LF/MF transmitting and try the various modes then let me have
> your opinion. We could have a qso on CW while WSPR is warming up!!!!!!!!
> g3kev
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Roger Lapthorn <rogerlapthorn@gmail.com>
> *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 01, 2009 7:47 PM
> *Subject:* Re: LF: wspr
>
> Mal,
>
> Not helpful and factually incorrect.
>
> 73s
> Roger
>
>
>
> 2009/9/1 mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
>
>>  All WSPR signals last evening struggling in QRN/QRS whereas they were
>> audible here and if in CW mode I could easily have made a real time QSO.
>> decode was marginal, and then the same old repetive rubbish.
>> g3kev
>>
>>
>>
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Yes, looking forward to a CW QSO Mal when I&#39;ve got the TX together and=
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<br>All the best<br><br>Roger<br>G3XBM<br><br><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_=
quote">
2009/9/1 mal hamilton <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:g3kevmal@tal=
ktalk.net">g3kevmal@talktalk.net</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class=3D"gm=
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<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Roger I am stating the facts, someone=
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mentioned seeing the signals on the waterfall but they were not decoding.=
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could easlily have made a qso on cw given the strength of signals whereas=
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was not decoding, so the exercise is pointless.</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Get active on LF/MF transmitting and=
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various modes then let me have your opinion. We could have a qso on CW whi=
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WSPR is warming up!!!!!!!!</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">g3kev</font></div>
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<b>From:</b>=20
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com" target=3D"_blank">Roger=20
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  <div><br></div>Mal,<br><br>Not helpful and factually=20
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  <div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/9/1 mal hamilton <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<=
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Adding my thoughts to the debate, 500Khz and WSPR has rekindled my interest
in radio and I am learning lots in new areas.  As a G7 and not an expert in
CW, if CW was the only means of communication on the band then I would not
have been as able to participate, experiment and learn as I have done with
WSPR.  Additionally, the use of WSPR on other bands encouraged me on to 500
as I was definitely "weak signal" and now I am trying and enjoying CW QSOs
too.

The database and software allow the analysis and deduction of lots of info
and data from the reports and their locations.

For me it is not a case of CW vs WSPR (or indeed other data modes e.g. WOLF)
but far more having a go at them all in a challenging environment and giving
the old grey matter a bit of a "run out" and learning some new stuff into
the bargain i.e. self training.

As I have said in other posts, it whacks the pants off 20m SSB for sense of
achievement and enjoyment (as well as outright frustration!)

I'm sure once we've all got WSPR sorted we'll be running WSJT in QSO mode
and then we can exchange information as per the original poster's comment.

Just my thoughts and YMMV

With best regards
 
 
Jim
 
 
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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Peter Cleall
Sent: 21 September 2009 14:18
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Cc: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: defence of WSPR Signals

I have always been interested in propagation.
These WSPR signals are seen by some as repetitious rubbish.

 If you use , WSPR, the Internet database and your own receptions you soon
realise that there are subtle variations in signal particularly QSB that are
different over day/ night paths, transitions at dawn and dusk and
differences on N/S and E/W paths. Northern stations seem favoured for E/W
propagation and distance between stations also has an effect.

At last we have software and a process for examining in near real time the
subtlety of these variations. We can see the signal reports from many
distances and directions at the same time. I think we will learn a lot more
over the winter if we continue with these tests. I would like to think that
in the future we could have some coordinated test times which would get a
greater number of receiving participants available at the same time.

Personally I have been working on propagation with WSPR for several months
on 30m. But  the recent activity by Andy, Jim and others has resulted in me
hunting out my 137kHz equipment that has not been used for a couple of years
and rebuilding a converter to hear my first signals on 500khz , since the
commercial stations disappeared. I can see from the other reports on the
database that I need to do more work on Aerials and i suspect that I still
have a lot to learn about signals and equipment overload. Thee existence of
a few known reference signals is essential to improving ones equipment and
knowledge. I t think this is all part of the spirit of amateur radio for our
self education in radio techniques which is a major justification for us to
have licenses.

regards
peterG8AFN


Sep 21, 2009 10:52:38 AM, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org wrote:

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WSPR signals last evening copied from G4JNT, G4WGT, G7NKS and SM6BHZ on
500kHz. Also very strong signal during the day from M0BMU on 137kHz.My
report of your DFCW signal on 137 the other day, Jim, had the wrong
frequency - sorry about that, added the difference 20Hz rather than
subtracted from my RX offset - should have been 137.68 of course.Tend to
agree with Mal's comments, I am having difficulty in seeing the point of
some of this when there is little in the way of exchanged information
between stations. There is a place for beacons, certainly. What concerns me
is that the casual listener tuning across the band probably has no idea
there's anybody on.Vy 73,Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent, JO01MI.



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mal hamilton wrote:
> JIM YOU HAVE A MORE SERIOUS PROBLEM
> FACTS AND FICTION MIXED UP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>> Dear Mal, LF Group,
>>
>> Please check your keyboard - the shift key seems to be stuck!
>>
>> Cheers, Jim Moritz
>> 73 de M0BMU
>>
>>
>>> THIS OBSERVATION IS INCORRECT. etc. etc. etc....
>>

Thanks all. This is definitely my favourite internet group. Never a dull 
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Keep up the good work chaps.

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Dear LF,

this evening i test an SSB Beacon, QRG 508 kHz LSB.
Reports are welcome.

73 de Gus SM6BHZ
www.sm6bhz.com

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<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4>this evening i test an SSB Beacon, QRG=
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Most great men come from NI including 12 ex Presidents of the USA. I could 
go on but must get back to pounding the key. There is some nice choice DX 
about on HF. I am getting distracted by these emails,  also I am trying to 
get a 1/2 wave inv V installed for 500 for the coming DX season.
G3KEV

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "James Cowburn" <james.cowburn@virgin.net>
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Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 11:34 AM
Subject: LF: RE: Re: Re: Re: Re: Malcontent...


> He's from Northern Ireland and was transported to the Yorkshire penal 
> colony
> of Scarborough for being too vexatious and grumpy for the Northern Irish,
> (that in itself is an achievement given that the Northern Irish are 
> accepted
> as the most argumentative and provocativee of the peoples who live on this
> group of cold damp islands in the North Sea!)
>
> So far off group topic as likely to incur the wrath of moderators and big
> brothers so I'll stop now and get back to my coil and transformer winding
> and sausage sandwich
>
> With best regards
>
>
> Jim
>
>
> Dr. James Cowburn
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of VK2ZTO
> Sent: 22 September 2009 11:16
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: Re: Malcontent...
>
> Mal,
>
>>
>> I am not from Yorkshire and therefore the Yorkshire accent is non
>> applicable.
>>
>
> Sorry - I thought Scarborough was in Yorkshire - I will have to look up
> Google Maps.
>
> Or perhaps you mean you are a blow in (not born there, but moved there..).
>
>>
>> We have strayed away from LF/MF time to get back on track What is WSPR
>> doing for AUSTRALIA?
>>
>
> I like to learn.  I believe I will have something to learn everyday until 
> I
> die.   At least that is my fervent wish (to learn, not to die...).
>
> I played with WSPR for a couple of months and it taught me a lot about
> propagation.    With normal ham operation you don't get the 24/7 band
> opening watch as you do with WSPR.
>
> WSPR is not for everyone - especially if you are after the awards.    I am 
> a
>
> self-confessed non-award chaser.
>
> For those who, like myself, are still fascinated by the sheer magic of 
> radio
>
> even after 40 years, WSPR allows a fascinating (granted non-perfect) view 
> of
>
> radio propagation.
>
> Here in Australia (I speak for the period when I was using it), it kindled 
> a
>
> lot of interest and discussion amongst those of us who like talking about
> radio to like-minded individuals.   I can only say it has been a positive
> influence.
>
> These days the newest interest in VK for a lot of us is our newly acquired
> access to the 136kHz.
>
> Despite being old hat for some over there, here it has sparked a rush to 
> the
>
> soldering irons and delving into raising the bar regarding frequency
> accuracy and stability.
>
> Spare a though for us in VK, just when we have arrived at the 136kHz 
> trough,
>
> the rest of the world is heading off for the 500kHz feeding station
> (including our leaders in things LF/MF over here, the Kiwis...)
>
> 73   Steve Olney - VK2XV
>
> http://www.djirra.com
>
>
>


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This is well on par with the  goon show ,=20

how to  open the  door , turn the  handle on your side . but I haven't=
 .....etc=20

>> wasn't decoding because I don't yet have a decoder.<<=20

Just the  song ,  .... .. ....  ..=20

G=20


From: Andy Talbot=20
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What has that got to do with LF ?

Andy
www.g4jnt.com

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2009/9/2 Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>

  You just could not make it up !

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DgqsT4xnKZPg

  G .

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  To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
  Subject: Re: LF: wspr



    On 01/09/2009 at 20:17 mal hamilton wrote:


      Roger I am stating the facts, someone else mentioned seeing the=
 signals
      on the waterfall but they were not decoding. I could easlily hav=
e made a
      qso on cw given the strength of signals whereas WSPR was not dec=
oding, so
      the exercise is pointless.


    That was me.  I wasn't decoding because I don't yet have a decoder=
.  Had I had one, and given the snr I observed, I would have expected=
 100% copy. On the few occasions I have heard Mal, his snr has not bee=
n anything like as good as WSPR.

    John F5VLF










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<DIV>What has that got to do with LF ?</DIV>
<DIV><BR clear=3Dall>Andy<BR><A   title=3D"http://www.g4jnt.com&#10;CT=
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g. I could=20
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Roger Lapthorn wrote:
> Success!!! Recalibrated the sound card as suggested and BINGO - decode on
> first try!
>

Great news!

Now we need some real QRPp to test this mode with - it's supposed to be 
able to average over many frames to pull a decode out of the noise, but 
at present Jim's signal is too strong - it's decoding on the first frame!

Any chance of a 30dB reduction in ERP?

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Dear Jay, LF Group,

I will be going out shortly, but the RX will be set to 508.5kHz in the hope 
of copying your sigs.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU

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> WE2XGR/2 will transmit in WOLF mode tonight from 2230 - 0330Z on 508.5 
> kHz. Local sunset is 2300Z. Reports are always appreciated.



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Dear Andy, LF Group,

AA1A is "real"... his name is Dave.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU

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> K1JT and A1AA certainly appear to report a lot of Dx WSPR spots :-)
> I do wish users would eithe rset their callsign / locator properly or turn
> off automatic upload.
>



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mal hamilton wrote:
> Maybe u like FICTION I like FACTS

Mal, please have a look at the FACTS at:

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shannon-Hartley_theorem

These are the "rules" that all kinds of communications have to obey to
when information is sent through a noisy channel. Believe me, hand sent
CW is no exception!

I agree with you that CW is both fun and efficient, I am a keen CW
operator myself by the way (QRP HF), but, by today's standards, CW is
simply not the most efficient way to communicate.


73
Johan SM6LKM


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Early this morning I've started to be heard by *G7NKS* as well (thank you
for the "new reporter" spots) as well as by G6ALB (better reports - I think
he's worked on his RX), M0BMU and G3XVL.I'll leave the beacon running until
after breakfast in case anoyone else hears me.

 2009-09-17 07:06  G3XBM  0.503799  -29  1  JO02dg  0.001  G7NKS  IO92ub
 46  240   2009-09-17 07:04  G3XBM  0.503798  -29  0  JO02dg  0.001  G7NKS
 IO92ub  46  240   2009-09-17 06:44  G3XBM  0.503802  -29  0  JO02dg  0.001
 G7NKS  IO92ub  46  240   2009-09-17 06:24  G3XBM  0.503803  -30  0  JO02dg
 0.001  G7NKS  IO92ub  46  240
Total of 4 different stations hearing my very minuscule station is
encouraging.

73s
Roger G3XBM
-- 
-------------------------------------------------------------
http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/
http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
G3XBM    GQRP 1678      ISWL G11088

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Early this morning I&#39;ve started to be heard by <b>G7NKS</b> as well (t=
hank you for the &quot;new reporter&quot; spots) as well as by G6ALB (bett=
er reports - I think he&#39;s worked on his RX), M0BMU and G3XVL.I&#39;ll=
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"all">Total of 4 different stations hearing my very minuscule station is=
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73s<br>Roger G3XBM<br>-- <br>---------------------------------------------=
----------------<br><a href=3D"http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/">http://g3xb=
m-qrp.blogspot.com/</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.g3xbm.co.uk">http://www.g=
3xbm.co.uk</a><br>
G3XBM =A0 =A0GQRP 1678 =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL G11088<br>

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Good transmission F6bwo Jeff
Many thank's for the qso...and good week end ALL
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Hello Gus, LF!

1834 -14  0.4   1.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
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1906  -6  0.7   1.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40

Lubos, OK2BVG

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Hello Gus, LF!<br><br>1834 -14&nbsp; 0.4&nbsp;&nbsp; 1.503925&nbsp; 0 SM6B=
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Hi Dave

Thanks for the report.  WOLF is next assuming I can get it to work!



With best regards
 
 
Jim
 
 
Dr. James Cowburn


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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dave Sergeant
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On 16 Sep 2009 at 8:48, James Cowburn wrote:

> Dear LF
> 
> The past two days have been quite bad for signals I have noticed. 
> Normally I get lots of decodes from many stations and now I am only
> getting Gus. Also there is a lot of noise on the waterfall trace too.
> 
> Still hoping to catch Roger
> 
> With best regards
> 
> 
> Jim

Well the last two nights yourself and Gus have been the only two 
stations active apart from Roger. Last night you were a consistent
-17dB - for a while Gus was transmitting 100% and I was decoding you 
100% even though you were only 10Hz away. I also have high static QRN 
from mid evening onwards, but it didn't seem to affect copy - the one 
time when it seemed to have stopped I had accidentally managed to get 
WSPR7 into 'freeze' mode. And Roger, if you are only getting Jim at
 -30dB I guess there is some work to do on that antenna...

192200   4  -6  3.5    48  0  SM6BHZ JO57 30        
192400   9 -21  3.5    26  0  SM6BHZ JO57 30        
192600   8 -17  3.5    26  0  SM6BHZ JO57 30        
192800   8 -10  3.4    26  0  SM6BHZ JO57 30        
192800   9 -13  4.3    38 -1  G7NKS IO92 23         
193000   5 -11  3.4    27  0  SM6BHZ JO57 30        
193200   9 -12  3.5    26  0  SM6BHZ JO57 30        
194400   8   0  3.6    26  0  SM6BHZ JO57 30        
194600   8   0  3.6    27  0  SM6BHZ JO57 30        
194600   7 -17  4.2    42  0  G7NKS IO92 23         
195000  10  -1  3.6    27  1  SM6BHZ JO57 30        
200000  11   3  3.7    27  0  SM6BHZ JO57 30        
200600  11  -1  3.6    27  0  SM6BHZ JO57 30        
200600   7 -17  4.2    46 -1  G7NKS IO92 23         
201200   9  -8  3.4    25  0  SM6BHZ JO57 30        
201400   9  -5  3.4    26  0  SM6BHZ JO57 30        
201400   8 -17  3.7    40 -1  G7NKS IO92 23         
201600   8  -1  3.4    25  0  SM6BHZ JO57 30        
201800   8  -7  3.5    25  0  SM6BHZ JO57 30        
202000  14  -5  3.4    25  0  SM6BHZ JO57 30        

73 Dave G3YMC

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Piotr,

Well the  UK is allocated   501  KHz to  504 KHz

Power is  now   10 watts ERP ,

Modes allowed appear to be  all modes except 'speech' , with the  prov=
iso of=20
'none interference' to  other  users , to  date I do not  know of any=
  such=20
problems with  interference. Licence applications  indicated the  requ=
ired=20
modes.

The original  emphasis was on 'purely experimentation' however this ha=
s=20
matured into mixture of  conventional and  experimental traffic , but=
=20
significantly the  UK allocation still allows experimental operation=
 and as=20
its viewed as a 'variation' , enables communication with   stations =
 in and=20
out side the UK

This aspect  makes the  allocation quite  versatile and is worth  requ=
esting=20
,

Good luck

Graham



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From: "Piotr M=C5=82ynarski" <sq7mpj@toya.net.pl>
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 9:54 PM
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Subject: LF: 500 Khz allocation

>
> Dear LF group,
> The present discussion  about  uk/us 500 kHz bandplan  has triggered=
  a
> question which i  was going to  put here, on this reflector ,
> for some time.  In Poland, we still lack this MF band allocation to
> radioamateurs.  There is a small group of hams interested  in  havin=
g an
> access to this band..
> Some time ago i was asked  by one of our  PZK ( Polish Radioamateur
> Union)  officials to prepare a  sort of a  preliminary note about th=
is
> issue
> I plan to write such a  note ( along with Marcin, sq2bxi and others)
> Athough this lf_reflector is uk based we all know that it has a
> world-wide character including stations from G,W,F,DL,S,OK,ON,EI,PA,=
I
> ,OE,HB,VE
> ( i am sorry if  any other country prefix has been ommited) . Theref=
ore
> , my ask is the following:
> please , write  here  , on this reflector,   the 500 khz band
> allocation in particular countries  i.e.  band limits as well as  =
 EIRP
> power,special permits. etc...
> Obviously,  with such an information provided  the   "power" of  suc=
h a
> note will be greatly increased.
>
>
> 73 de Piotr, sq7mpj
> qth: Lodz /jo91rs/
>
>



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Hi Gus, Jim, LF,

1920   -23  0.9   0.503926  SM6BHZ JO57 30
1932   -16  1.0   0.503926  SM6BHZ JO57 30
1938   -15  1.1   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 30
1948   -10  0.9   0.503926  SM6BHZ JO57 40
1958     -8  0.9   0.503926  SM6BHZ JO57 40
2002   -26  0.8   0.503841  M0BMU IO91 33
2004     -2  1.0   0.503926  SM6BHZ JO57 40
2006   -27  0.6   0.503841  M0BMU IO91 33
2014   -26  1.4   0.503841  M0BMU IO91 33
2014   -14  0.8   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 40
2018   -22  0.8   0.503841  M0BMU IO91 33
2022     -6  1.0   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 40
2028     -6  0.8   0.503926  SM6BHZ JO57 40
2032   -21  0.8   0.503841  M0BMU IO91 33
2032     -5  0.9   0.503926  SM6BHZ JO57 40
2038     -8  1.0   0.503926  SM6BHZ JO57 40
2046     -3  1.0   0.503926  SM6BHZ JO57 40
2050   -29  0.8   0.503841  M0BMU IO91 33
2052     -9  0.7   0.503926  SM6BHZ JO57 40
2056   -30  0.6   0.503841  M0BMU IO91 33
2056     -9  0.8   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 40
2102   -24  0.5   0.503841  M0BMU IO91 33
2102     -9  0.8   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 40
2108   -21  0.6   0.503841  M0BMU IO91 33
2110     -7  0.9   0.503926  SM6BHZ JO57 40
2116   -20  0.6   0.503841  M0BMU IO91 33
2116   -15  0.6   0.503926  SM6BHZ JO57 40
2122   -24  2.1   0.503841  M0BMU IO91 33
2124     -7  0.8   0.503926  SM6BHZ JO57 40

73
Andrey


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James Moritz wrote:
> Dear LF Group,
> 
> Thanks for the reports overnight - the WOLF10 beacon closed down at 0600utc.
> 
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU 
> 
> 

Thanks for running the test Jim,


The final 5 frames:-

2009-09-10 05:51:37 >WOLF10  -r 7997.017 -f 1000 -t 1.0 -d 5 -w 0.0000
t:  24 f: 0.341 a: 0.4 dp: 71.3 ci: 0 cj:  0 3.C/ *8CSAUMYFS ?
t:  48 f: 0.341 a: 0.4 dp: 71.6 ci: 0 cj:  0 TVQQ70CKWW6FS5B ?
t:  96 f: 0.341 a: 0.3 dp: 70.9 ci:13 cj:218 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t: 192 f: 0.342 pm:40.11 jm:525 q:  6.6  6.1 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t: 288 f: 0.342 pm:84.27 jm:525 q:  9.3  9.4 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t: 384 f: 0.342 pm:129.0 jm:525 q: 10.9 11.0 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t: 480 f: 0.342 pm:170.2 jm:525 q: 11.7 12.3 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t: 576 f: 0.342 pm:179.2 jm:525 q: 11.5 12.0 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -

I've sent you the full night's decodes directly.

Cheers,

John



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Gus,

I didn't copy anything after 0045Z. I will try again tonight from my home QTH.

John, W1TAG

---- Gus <begu@algonet.se> wrote: 
> Hello John and LF,
> 
> thank's report and info !
> Transmitter stoped after an upgrade last night.
> I will let transmitter run from now and all night in WSPR !
> Dial 502.5 kHz USB.
> 
> 73 de Gus SM6BHZ
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <w1tag@charter.net>
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> Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 2:45 AM
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> 
> 
> >I have some copy of SM6BHZ in the past half hour:
> > 0016 -29  0.9   0.503951   0  SM6BHZ JO57 30
> > 0026 -28  1.0   0.503951   0  SM6BHZ JO57 30
> > 0034 -27  1.0   0.503951   0  SM6BHZ JO57 30
> > 0040 -26  1.2   0.503951   0  SM6BHZ JO57 30
> > 
> > Will let it run overnight and see if any other calls show up.
> > 
> > John Andrews, W1TAG/1
> > Raymond, Maine FN42ch
> >
> 
> 
> 



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And maybe if you take the attenuators out again you will reach the 
dizzy heights of Bracknell.... I did monitor till around 10pm last 
night but no sign, but the QRN got attrocious and I even lost copy of 
Jim. IO think it was a bit late when I turned on this morning, with 
lower noise, but no sign. But if Jim is copying you I am not really 
that much further (well at 120km it is about twice the distance...).

73 Dave G3YMC

On 14 Sep 2009 at 15:52, Roger Lapthorn wrote:

> This afternoon I fired up my 700mW 500kHz WSPR beacon and wet string
> (ERP microwatts) and got 3 reports from G3XVL at 61kms.
> 
> So, I tried putting a 6dB then a 10dB attenuator between the PA and the
> ATU. Even with the power from the PA of just 70mW (never mind what that
> would be as ERP from the antenna) he still gave me a -25dB S/N report!
> These were the three reports in reverse ordder:
> 
>  2009-09-14 14:42  G3XBM  0.503829  -25  1  JO02dg  0.001  G3XVL  JO02nb
>  61  112   2009-09-14 14:40  G3XBM  0.503827  -23  1  JO02dg  0.001 
>  G3XVL JO02nb  61  112   2009-09-14 14:36  G3XBM  0.503823  -18  1 
>  JO02dg  0.001 G3XVL  JO02nb  61  112
> 73s
> Roger
> G3XBM

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*Newbie help please.....*

As I'd like to try listening to the WOLF transmissions people are sending on
500kHz, can someone give me a link or two to *suitable software and
installation instructions *please?  Is there the equivalent of K1JT's WSPR
software than simply installs and runs? At this stage I am only interested
in receiving.

I assume that a reasonable XP laptop and a SignaLink USB are all that I need
in addition to my FT817, as for WSPR.

73s
Roger G3XBM

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<b><i>Newbie help please.....</i></b><br><br>As I&#39;d like to try listen=
ing to the WOLF transmissions people are sending on 500kHz, can someone gi=
ve me a link or two to <b>suitable software and installation instructions=
 </b>please?=A0 Is there the equivalent of K1JT&#39;s WSPR software than=
 simply installs and runs? At this stage I am only interested in receiving=
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<br>I assume that a reasonable XP laptop and a SignaLink USB are all that=
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On 14 Sep 2009 at 21:54, Dennis wrote:

> 
> > >>>I have learnt, WSPR sounds like a slightly rough CW and is
> > >>>transmitted
> > in 
> > >>>4min-blocks. <<<<<
> > 
> > Dennis , That may  not be wspr , wspr  tx time is  120 seconds locked
> > to the exact time , with the  start time on the  00-00 by sound its
> > like a very  slow narrow shift psk signal .....but it is only one 
> > carrier  changing frequency  with  no breaks in the 120 second
> > transmission
> 
> Okay better to say: One cycle seemed to be 4min, divided into abt.
> 115sec TX and 125sec no TX, maybe RX? The beginning of the received
> transmissions were always well within half a second around even minute +
> zero seconds which to me seems to be the strongest hint that is really
> was some wspr what I was hearing. (DCF77-clock beside the speaker)
> 
> Since yesterday I'm looking for a notebook - to run wspr :)
> 
> vy73
> Dennis
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How do you Jack up an Antenna

Bob K3DJC

> > Dear LF Group,
> >
> > The M0BMU WSPR beacon is running again - I have jacked up the 
> antenna to 
> > increase the ERP a bit. G4WGT and G7NKS are also active - any 
> reports 
> > would be very welcome.
> >
> > Cheers, Jim Moritz
> > 73 de M0BMU
> > 
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> Peter Cleall wrote:
>
>> I have always been interested in propagation.
>> These WSPR signals are seen by some as repetitious rubbish.
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> Not by some... by just one... the group troll...
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Hello Chris,do you have a screen capture of my transmission ?
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<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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James Cowburn wrote:
> Dear All
> 
>  
> 
> G7NKS   ("No Known Signal! Hi hi) will be also txing on Wolf tonight.  I
> will send G7NKS IO92UB 10mw.   I am still v QRPppp but we'll see how I get
> on.
> 
James,

What frequency? I can see a strong trace from Jim on 503.5 (tuned to 
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JH1GVY 137.7775 QRSS 120 Will be QRV tonight again tonight, Saturday from=
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Antennae is 40/50m vertical balloon, Tx around  50W, circa 1W ERP.=20

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QTH  PM96UC, 50km north of Tokyo

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Some of his details and experiences on LF and 160m=20

http://www003.upp.so-net.ne.jp/JH1GVY/index.html

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Hes certainly putting out a signal both into VK and China  and bodes well=
 for Eu later in the year....

=20

Ill have one receiver on 137 and the SDR on WSPR 502.4

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73

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Laurence in BY3A

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Grabs Alaksa http://kl1x.com/dx00000.jpg

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JH1GVY 137.7775 QRSS 120 Will be QRV tonight again tonight, Saturday from=
 12Z for a few hours &nbsp;- &nbsp;if the wind isnt strong. <BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Antennae is 40/50m vertical balloon, Tx around &nbsp;50W, circa 1W ERP. <B=
R>
<FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;<BR>
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<FONT face=3DArial>QTH &nbsp;PM96UC, 50km north of Tokyo</FONT><BR>
<FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;<BR>
<FONT face=3DArial>Some of his details and experiences on LF and 160m </FO=
NT><BR>
<A href=3D"http://www003.upp.so-net.ne.jp/JH1GVY/index.html"><FONT face=3D=
Arial>http://www003.upp.so-net.ne.jp/JH1GVY/index.html</FONT></A><BR>
<FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;<BR>
<FONT face=3DArial>Hes certainly putting out a&nbsp;signal both into VK an=
d China&nbsp; and bodes well for Eu later in the year....</FONT><BR>
<FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;<BR>
<FONT face=3DArial>Ill have one receiver on 137 and the SDR on WSPR 502.4<=
/FONT><BR>
<FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;<BR>
<FONT face=3DArial>73</FONT><BR>
<FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;<BR>
<FONT face=3DArial>Laurence in BY3A</FONT><BR>
<FONT face=3DArial>Grabs China &nbsp;<A href=3D"http://kl1x.com/2dx00000.j=
pg">http://kl1x.com/2dx00000.jpg</A></FONT><BR>
<FONT face=3DArial>Grabs Alaksa <A href=3D"http://kl1x.com/dx00000.jpg">ht=
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Hello Marcin, LF!
OK, that=B4s fine, I will be ready  tomorrow at 19:00Z on 137.700 QRSS3 or=
 DFCW3.=20
Thanks!

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

******************
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> From: bxi@go2.pl
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 14:13:13 +0200
> Subject: LF: Re: HF70W_sked
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> Hello Lubos, LF
> OK! Mayby tomorrow (29 September ) about 19:00 UTC ?
> --
> Vy 73!
> Marcin SQ2BXI
>=20
>=20
>=20
> Hello Marcin, LF!
> I would like to make a QSO with HF70W. When you will be QRV in QRSS3 mod=
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> let me know, please.
> I hope you are successful in CQWW_RTTY!
>=20
> Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS
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> **********************
>=20
>=20
> > From: bxi@go2.pl
> > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> > Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 10:50:44 +0200
> > Subject: LF: Re: HF70W
> >
> > Dear Nicolas, Lubos, Henny and LF
> >
> > Thank for HF70W raports.
> > Next station activity friday and saturday.
> >
> > I sleep after CQ WW RTTY Contest :-)
> > --
> > Vy 73!
> > Marcin SQ2BXI
> >
> >
> >
> > Hello Marcin,strong tonight.
> >
> >
> > F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP
> >
> > RX : Icom IC7400
> > Ant: Wellbrook LFL 1010
> > http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/
> >
>=20
>=20
>=20
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> v=B9echny. Klikni zde!
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<br>Hello Marcin, LF!<br>OK, that=B4s fine, I will be ready&nbsp; tomorrow=
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88KS<br><br>******************<br>&nbsp;<br>&gt; From: bxi@go2.pl<br>&gt;=
 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<br>&gt; Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 14:13:13=
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 LF<br>&gt; OK! Mayby tomorrow (29 September ) about 19:00 UTC ?<br>&gt;=
 --<br>&gt; Vy 73!<br>&gt; Marcin SQ2BXI<br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt=
; Hello Marcin, LF!<br>&gt; I would like to make a QSO with HF70W. When yo=
u will be QRV in QRSS3 mode,<br>&gt; let me know, please.<br>&gt; I hope=
 you are successful in CQWW_RTTY!<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS<b=
r>&gt; <br>&gt; **********************<br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; &gt; From=
: bxi@go2.pl<br>&gt; &gt; To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<br>&gt; &gt; Da=
te: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 10:50:44 +0200<br>&gt; &gt; Subject: LF: Re: HF70W<br=
>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; Dear Nicolas, Lubos, Henny and LF<br>&gt; &gt;<br>=
&gt; &gt; Thank for HF70W raports.<br>&gt; &gt; Next station activity frid=
ay and saturday.<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; I sleep after CQ WW RTTY Contes=
t :-)<br>&gt; &gt; --<br>&gt; &gt; Vy 73!<br>&gt; &gt; Marcin SQ2BXI<br>&g=
t; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; Hello Marcin,strong tonight=
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Did you get any Canadian submarines replying :-))
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----- Original Message -----
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> Dear LF Group,
>
> The M0BMU WSPR beacon is now running on 135.5kHz "dial frequency",
137.0kHz
> RF out. Note change of frequency to try to avoid DCF39/HGA22 sidebands,
> which some stations experience problems with. Any reports over the next
few
> hours would be very welcome.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
>



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Hi Gary, thanks for this info about the G4JNT beacon!
Have been overlooking this opportunity, somehow.
Nice to have a signal to listen to. :)

vy73
Dennis
Berlin
JO62RM






-------- Original-Nachricht --------
> Datum: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 10:22:58 +0100
> Von: Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
> An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Betreff: Re: LF: signal

> Hi Roman, LF,
> 
> The signal on 503.700 kHz you can see on my grabber is the propagation
> beacon being run by Andy G4JNT, transmissions are at15 minute
> intervals at 0004, 0019, 0034 & 0049 minutes of each hour. The beacon
> now runs 24/7.


































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Dear LF Group,

M0BMU QRT at 0712utc. Thanks for all the overnight reports.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
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Dear LF Group,

Thanks for the reports overnight - the WOLF10 beacon closed down at 0600utc.

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Dear Roman,

Thanks for the grabber - I can see my signal on it at 0:17:56

Cheers, Jim moritz
73 de M0BMU

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Roman RW3ADB" <rw3adb@rambler.ru>
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>* James Moritz <james.moritz@btopenworld.com> [Sun, 6 Sep 2009 21:05:12 
> +0100]:
>> Dear LF Group,
> Hi Jim & LF!
> Start my grabber on 503.5 dial freq.
> http://qrss.nm.ru/grabber.html
> But do not any traces near 504.
> 
> Roman



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Hello Claude.

Thank you for our first QSO. Your signals were very strong at this QTH, near
Windsor, South East England. My transmitter runs 200W RF out, and the
antenna is a 20m "Tee" antenna at 5m high....not very good for LF work! My
receiver is an ICOM IC-PCR1000 with a tuned pre-amp for 137 kHz.

73 and hope we work again soon,

Dave G3WCB IO91RM ne Windsor, S E England.



-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Claude
Berthebaud
Sent: 12 September 2009 11:32
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: Re: F8BOJ - report


Hello Dave and LF group
Thank you for this first qso g3wcb dave ....
now I'm not good antenna for you in good
conditions the antenna used for this traditional
band is in maintenace now ... your signal here was
Mr. MM ..... then finally qso on loop for the top band hi
My locator is JN16WA ...
L inv 172m .....
qsl info ...qrz.com
Dave good weekend ... see you soon on 137 khz
73's F8boj Claude..

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave G3WCB" <ganymede444@btopenworld.com>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 11:53 AM
Subject: LF: F8BOJ - report


> LF,
> F8BOJ very strong QRSS signals this morning on 137.740. Screenshot
> attached.
> New station for me!
>
> 73, Dave IO91RM nr Windsor, S E England
>
>



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dr Claude, LF group

any station in 3sec-mode on the screen this morning:

F8BOJ "O", tu for the QSO! dr Claude.
HB9ASB "M", i hope for a QSO soon!
SO5AS "M", tu for QSO again Steve!
F6BWO "O"
M0BMU "O"
F4DTL "T"

GL 73 Edgar
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Hello James,

good copy up to 0dB SNR:
      2009-09-04 20:56   M0BMU   0.503975   0   0   IO91vr   2   DL4RAJ   JN68kj   1003   107


see also WSPR Database.

73
Clemens
DL4RAJ


----- Original Message ----- 
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> Dear LF Group,
>
> The M0BMU WSPR beacon is running again tonight 0n 503.975kHz (502.4k "dial
> frequency"). Any reports are very welcome. Also a very strong signal from
> SM6BHZ tonight.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
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Hi Peter and LF,

thanks report and info.
Also tonight i will run WSPR.

73 de Gus SM6BHZ
www.sm6bhz.com

----- Original Message ----- 
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> Dear Gus, LF Group,
> this evening i have a strong qrm on 500 khz so i've already switched off
> my rx gear.
> you will find  (attached)  a part  of a wspr receiving window  where
> this qrm is  (on average) stronger than Gus signal
> and  partially overlapping it but still  i've got a positive decode of
> SM6BHZ  at 2112 UTC ( it is sent to wspr database)
> 090908 2112  23  -7  0.6   0.503955  SM6BHZ JO57 40
>
>                                                 73 de peter, sq7mpj
> qth: Lodz  /jo91rs/
> 





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Hello Lubos, Marcin,
I saw traces from signals. But here the strongest
QRM from broadcasting station to 21z (153 khz).

73 Andrey


>
> Hello MArcin, LF!
> Thanks for very nice QSO, I am pleased. Your signal was fine - see the picture.
>
> 73!
>
> Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS
>
>
> _________________________________________________________________
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Steve.
Strange that you are the only one that has noticed this. I have heard a lot 
worse said about POME'S from AUS sources over the years.
Glad that I am not a POME. Are you going to publish? A Wireless Operator 
needs a sense of humour on LF/MF.
G'day. You have a lot of information, was this research for your PHd
de G3KEV now back to pounding the morse key, 20 metres looks good at 
present.




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "VK2ZTO" <vk2zto@djirra.com>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 1:32 AM
Subject: LF: Malcontent...


> G'day All,
>
> I can't believe why you guys get so steamed up about Mal's comments.
> Surely you know Mal is a troll (internet term - look it up...).
>
> If you don't believe me go to link below - its official....
>
> http://www.warcraftrealms.com/char/7964283
>
> Note the Guild name....
>
> Seriously - Mal has a right to express an opinion (perhaps not in UPPER
> CASE..), and everyone has a right to respond - but just be aware he is a
> troll.   You can rise to the bait or not - your choice.   As a fisherman
> nothing gives Mal more pleasure than a bite (including, I suspect, this
> one).
>
> Mal and I go back a long way - he has amused me for longer than I can
> remember.    So much so I have kept a record of some of his "gems".    He
> has been trying for the Worked All Northern Continents award for years 
> now.
>
> Here are a few of my personal favourite quotes (taking from the PUBLIC
> record, not from personal communications with me old china plate).
>
> ****Taken during Mal's QRSS/computer/digital bashing stage....*****
>
> "To date all qrss activity that I have seen could be
> copied on normal aural cw at my qth. I suppose if one has a poor
> antenna, low power and a noisy qth then maybe qrss is the only way if
> you must work on 136 khz. Fortunately I do not have these problems.
> 73 de Mal/G3KEV"
>
> "Qrss is discouraging experimenters from improving their antennas,
> receivers and associated equipment to make a normal aural qso. It is also
> encouraging nodding off (sleeping) during the hours that it takes to get a
> MMM.
> OOO, OXO etc
> I hope the lazy mans cw will not prevail above 20 khz !!!
> 73 de Mal/G3KEV"
>
> "Suggested awards for those long haul qso's across the atlantic.
>
> Grade 1......
> Grade 2.....
> Grade 3  Those using a sophisticated computer generated mode like very 
> slow
> cw,...
> Good Luck de G3KEV"
>
> "At present it seems to be the TAIL WAGGING THE DOG with the few trying to
> convince the rest of us that we should go to psk, lazy mans cw generated 
> and
> displayed by a video monitor, or long long dashes on high power causing 
> qrm
> to the rest of potential users of the band
> Critic/G3KEV"
>
> *****Look familiar ?    Remember this is from years ago.******
>
> *****Then Mal had a conversion....  starts out with lower case qrs and
> builds to an upper case QRS....*****
>
> "Considering the bandwith constraints on both 73 and 136 khz the most
> efficient method is normal CW whether it be qrs or normal speed where
> applicable.
> ...
> My suggestion as previously stated it to learn and operate conventional
> CW and know your appropriate Q codes and use QRS or normal speed as
> appropriate.
> 73 De G3KEV"
>
> "I tried some 60 sec dot qrs last night for a short time around 2330...
>
> The old system worked very well when everyone was on QRS side by side
> 73 and Happy New Year to all de Mal/G3KEV"
>
> "...or any advantage
> over QRS which takes the minimum bandwith of all the modes to achieve the
> object on a very narrow band.
>
> the only suitable mode for this
> band is CW, normal speed and QRS.
> G3KEV"
>
> "Thanks John for the confirmation that my signals were visible and 
> readable
> last
> night.  I will be on tonight at the same time 2300 - 0200 approx same qrg
> 135.922
> khz and QRS 60 sec dots.
> de Mal/G3KEV"
>
> "Yes I would like the screen shots please.
> de Mal/G3KEV"
>
>
> So - cut Mal some slack.   He is almost always right - its just he is 
> always
> a few years behind everyone else.
>
> WSPR is just Mal's latest whipping post.    You can choose to be tied to 
> it
> or not....
>
> 73 Steve VK2ZTO
>
>
>


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Well, easy for some (I can see) but NOT for me. What am I doing wrong?

19:19:11 >WOLF RESTARTED
t:  24 f: 0.367 a:-0.5 dp: 85.8 ci: 1 cj:  0 1STCG6J2X7EUEWZ ?
t:  48 f: 0.366 a:-0.4 dp: 85.7 ci: 2 cj:  0 VP*JV9IX47R60ZC ?
t:  96 f: 0.365 a:-0.3 dp: 85.3 ci: 6 cj:310 K.RU24.Q9AE21FZ ?
t: 192 f: 0.391 pm:10.86 jm:135 q:-11.5 -9.4 FOFTI.6ISF EOGB ?
t: 288 f:-0.400 pm:14.10 jm:255 q:-10.7 -5.7 ABMR90MGQ54T6P/ ?
t: 384 f:-0.078 pm:14.23 jm:  1 q:-10.2 -7.8 P.7DUMD3EHD/94S ?
t: 480 f: 0.186 pm:15.66 jm:852 q: -9.2 -7.8 S0MISIL2.5URQJ. ?
t: 576 f:-0.195 pm:17.73 jm:416 q: -9.0 -7.7 .ZV01QUR4??? DB ?
t: 672 f: 0.762 pm:18.85 jm: 74 q:-10.3 -7.7 KFKN1G9 EPGXDN3 ?
t: 768 f: 0.342 pm:20.93 jm:135 q:-10.1 -7.6 ???HM.BKM56T4.9 ?
t: 864 f: 0.762 pm:22.51 jm: 74 q: -8.4 -9.2 R/92R8DJOHKK42J ?
t: 960 f: 0.332 pm:24.31 jm:159 q: -8.3 -7.2 I*/U 5EYP057LGS ?
t:1056 f: 0.332 pm:24.93 jm:159 q: -7.9 -8.0 8RZNALIB9XK GIA ?
t:1152 f: 0.332 pm:26.07 jm:159 q: -7.8 -7.8 *DNYG*DN0YZ 1ME ?
t:1248 f: 0.332 pm:28.64 jm:147 q: -7.1 -8.3 MW3YFN68VBY0754 ?
t:1344 f: 0.332 pm:29.74 jm:159 q: -6.7 -7.6 JBCAPMW.YV59S*/ ?
t:1440 f: 0.332 pm:30.10 jm:159 q: -6.5 -6.2 REO2D/Q82MGVTZ1 -
t:1536 f: 2.383 pm:30.67 jm:862 q: -5.3 -8.0 K*S.D71XBP*7M5J ?
t:1632 f: 0.332 pm:33.64 jm:874 q: -6.9 -7.5 /KC9V6702???CI3 ?
t:1728 f: 1.631 pm:37.36 jm:459 q: -5.2-10.2 S7VHN.7XBKFP V0 ?
t:1824 f: 0.332 pm:39.66 jm:874 q: -6.1 -8.1 DHGCVD9FG???.SW ?
t:1920 f: 0.332 pm:39.98 jm:874 q: -5.8 -7.1 FS ???D4QVDNMAQ ?
t:2016 f: 1.631 pm:40.76 jm:459 q: -4.7 -6.1 87H2914HR AMF8/ -
t:2112 f: 1.631 pm:41.33 jm:459 q: -4.7 -8.1 87H3EG0F3P6WS6X ?
t:2208 f: 0.254 pm:42.98 jm:415 q: -3.7 -7.7 TK0M 3TLTP/90XH ?
t:2304 f:-0.254 pm:44.74 jm:410 q: -3.8 -7.5 2MTQ .NSW5*1Q5S ?
t:2400 f:-0.254 pm:47.27 jm:410 q: -3.4 -8.6  .ZWBD1S1GFRZUO ?
t:2496 f:-0.254 pm:48.49 jm:410 q: -3.3 -8.7  .ZWBCC*RKD5.7/ ?
t:2592 f:-0.254 pm:49.53 jm:410 q: -3.0 -8.8  ./7EU2.D2ZS62G ?
t:2688 f:-0.254 pm:49.99 jm:410 q: -2.7 -6.0  ..1LCZAM77*5C9 -
t:2784 f: 0.303 pm:52.48 jm:467 q: -5.0 -8.7 4IVCSYMR1E*3R53 ?
t:2880 f: 0.303 pm:52.95 jm:467 q: -4.8 -5.9 4IVC27123T20NSC -
t:2976 f: 0.303 pm:53.97 jm:467 q: -4.7 -7.6 4IVDKPE86GVFAQT ?
...at which point I gave up.

And STILL no decode even though Jim is clear and strong on the waterfall.

73s
Roger G3XBM


2009/9/10 Piotr M=C5=82ynarski <sq7mpj@toya.net.pl>

> James Moritz wrote:
>
>  Dear Jim, Roger, LF Group,
>>
>> The M0BMU WOLF beacon is now running on 503.500kHz - I don't know what
>> frequency G7NKS plans to be on , but would suggest about 100Hz spacing.=
 If
>> you are at reasonably close distance, and set up on the right receive
>> frequency, you should be seeing a trace about 20Hz wide in the centre=
 of the
>> WOLF waterfall. However, for more distant stations, you can expect
>> successful decodes even when there is no visible trace. It should be
>> interesting to see how WOLF fares when trying to receive a weaker signa=
l
>> close to a stronger one.
>>
>> Any reports will be very welcome.
>>
>
>
> Dear Jim, LF  Group,
> Yesterday  evening/night i had all my rx  boxes off . I just read  the=
 new
> posts on the reflector. among them,  it was an email from John , GM4SLV
> John was saying it was too easy for him  to decode   WOLF  transmision=
 from
> Jim. I  thought immediately it is going to be too difficult for me to do=
 the
> same ..
> but it was a nice surprise:
> 2009-09-10 19:36:31 >WOLF10  -r 11025 -f 1000 -t 3 -w 0.0000
> t:  24 f:-2.129 a:-0.7 dp: 70.4 ci: 5 cj:257 27JXL*GCGV1KT0E ?
> t:  48 f: 1.439 a: 0.1 dp: 70.4 ci:13 cj:290 5 CL/.XMV. Q7GO ?
> t:  96 f:-0.322 a: 1.2 dp: 66.3 ci:11 cj: 46 X4*H4Y*08IQ/13X ?
> t: 192 f: 0.303 pm:28.63 jm:286 q: -0.5 -1.2 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
> t: 288 f: 0.312 pm:32.73 jm:286 q:  2.5  2.1 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
> t: 384 f: 0.322 pm:45.78 jm:286 q:  2.0  2.2 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
> t: 480 f: 0.342 pm:62.10 jm:286 q: -0.3 -1.5 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
> t: 576 f: 0.342 pm:83.95 jm:286 q:  2.7  1.8 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
> t: 672 f: 0.342 pm:86.72 jm:286 q:  3.4  2.6 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
> t: 768 f: 0.361 pm:103.4 jm:287 q:  2.6  1.9 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
> t: 864 f: 0.371 pm:116.4 jm:287 q:  3.2  0.9 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
> t: 960 f: 0.371 pm:125.2 jm:287 q:  5.3  3.5 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
> t:1056 f: 0.381 pm:148.5 jm:287 q:  4.4  4.3 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
> t:1152 f: 0.381 pm:151.3 jm:287 q:  5.9  5.7 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
> t:1248 f: 0.381 pm:152.7 jm:287 q:  6.2  6.0 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
>
>                                        73 de peter, sq7mpj
>
> qth: Lodz /jo91rs/
>
>
>
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Well, easy for some (I can see) but NOT for me. What am I doing wrong?<br>=
<br>19:19:11 &gt;WOLF RESTARTED<br>t:=C2=A0 24 f: 0.367 a:-0.5 dp: 85.8 ci=
: 1 cj:=C2=A0 0 1STCG6J2X7EUEWZ ?<br>t:=C2=A0 48 f: 0.366 a:-0.4 dp: 85.7=
 ci: 2 cj:=C2=A0 0 VP*JV9IX47R60ZC ?<br>
t:=C2=A0 96 f: 0.365 a:-0.3 dp: 85.3 ci: 6 cj:310 K.RU24.Q9AE21FZ ?<br>t:=
 192 f: 0.391 pm:10.86 jm:135 q:-11.5 -9.4 FOFTI.6ISF EOGB ?<br>t: 288 f:-=
0.400 pm:14.10 jm:255 q:-10.7 -5.7 ABMR90MGQ54T6P/ ?<br>t: 384 f:-0.078 pm=
:14.23 jm:=C2=A0 1 q:-10.2 -7.8 P.7DUMD3EHD/94S ?<br>
t: 480 f: 0.186 pm:15.66 jm:852 q: -9.2 -7.8 S0MISIL2.5URQJ. ?<br>t: 576=
 f:-0.195 pm:17.73 jm:416 q: -9.0 -7.7 .ZV01QUR4??? DB ?<br>t: 672 f: 0.76=
2 pm:18.85 jm: 74 q:-10.3 -7.7 KFKN1G9 EPGXDN3 ?<br>t: 768 f: 0.342 pm:20.=
93 jm:135 q:-10.1 -7.6 ???HM.BKM56T4.9 ?<br>
t: 864 f: 0.762 pm:22.51 jm: 74 q: -8.4 -9.2 R/92R8DJOHKK42J ?<br>t: 960=
 f: 0.332 pm:24.31 jm:159 q: -8.3 -7.2 I*/U 5EYP057LGS ?<br>t:1056 f: 0.33=
2 pm:24.93 jm:159 q: -7.9 -8.0 8RZNALIB9XK GIA ?<br>t:1152 f: 0.332 pm:26.=
07 jm:159 q: -7.8 -7.8 *DNYG*DN0YZ 1ME ?<br>
t:1248 f: 0.332 pm:28.64 jm:147 q: -7.1 -8.3 MW3YFN68VBY0754 ?<br>t:1344=
 f: 0.332 pm:29.74 jm:159 q: -6.7 -7.6 JBCAPMW.YV59S*/ ?<br>t:1440 f: 0.33=
2 pm:30.10 jm:159 q: -6.5 -6.2 REO2D/Q82MGVTZ1 -<br>t:1536 f: 2.383 pm:30.=
67 jm:862 q: -5.3 -8.0 K*S.D71XBP*7M5J ?<br>
t:1632 f: 0.332 pm:33.64 jm:874 q: -6.9 -7.5 /KC9V6702???CI3 ?<br>t:1728=
 f: 1.631 pm:37.36 jm:459 q: -5.2-10.2 S7VHN.7XBKFP V0 ?<br>t:1824 f: 0.33=
2 pm:39.66 jm:874 q: -6.1 -8.1 DHGCVD9FG???.SW ?<br>t:1920 f: 0.332 pm:39.=
98 jm:874 q: -5.8 -7.1 FS ???D4QVDNMAQ ?<br>
t:2016 f: 1.631 pm:40.76 jm:459 q: -4.7 -6.1 87H2914HR AMF8/ -<br>t:2112=
 f: 1.631 pm:41.33 jm:459 q: -4.7 -8.1 87H3EG0F3P6WS6X ?<br>t:2208 f: 0.25=
4 pm:42.98 jm:415 q: -3.7 -7.7 TK0M 3TLTP/90XH ?<br>t:2304 f:-0.254 pm:44.=
74 jm:410 q: -3.8 -7.5 2MTQ .NSW5*1Q5S ?<br>
t:2400 f:-0.254 pm:47.27 jm:410 q: -3.4 -8.6=C2=A0 .ZWBD1S1GFRZUO ?<br>t:2=
496 f:-0.254 pm:48.49 jm:410 q: -3.3 -8.7=C2=A0 .ZWBCC*RKD5.7/ ?<br>t:2592=
 f:-0.254 pm:49.53 jm:410 q: -3.0 -8.8=C2=A0 ./7EU2.D2ZS62G ?<br>t:2688 f:=
-0.254 pm:49.99 jm:410 q: -2.7 -6.0=C2=A0 ..1LCZAM77*5C9 -<br>
t:2784 f: 0.303 pm:52.48 jm:467 q: -5.0 -8.7 4IVCSYMR1E*3R53 ?<br>t:2880=
 f: 0.303 pm:52.95 jm:467 q: -4.8 -5.9 4IVC27123T20NSC -<br>t:2976 f: 0.30=
3 pm:53.97 jm:467 q: -4.7 -7.6 4IVDKPE86GVFAQT ?<br>...at which point I ga=
ve up.<br>
<br>And STILL no decode even though Jim is clear and strong on the waterfa=
ll.<br><br>73s<br>Roger G3XBM<br><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/9=
/10 Piotr M=C5=82ynarski <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:sq7mpj@to=
ya.net.pl">sq7mpj@toya.net.pl</a>&gt;</span><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204,=
 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div class=3D"i=
m">James Moritz wrote:<br>
<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204,=
 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Dear Jim, Roger, LF Group,<br>
<br>
The M0BMU WOLF beacon is now running on 503.500kHz - I don&#39;t know what=
 frequency G7NKS plans to be on , but would suggest about 100Hz spacing.=
 If you are at reasonably close distance, and set up on the right receive=
 frequency, you should be seeing a trace about 20Hz wide in the centre of=
 the WOLF waterfall. However, for more distant stations, you can expect su=
ccessful decodes even when there is no visible trace. It should be interes=
ting to see how WOLF fares when trying to receive a weaker signal close to=
 a stronger one.<br>

<br>
Any reports will be very welcome.<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
<br></div>
Dear Jim, LF =C2=A0Group,<br>
Yesterday =C2=A0evening/night i had all my rx =C2=A0boxes off . I just rea=
d =C2=A0the new posts on the reflector. among them, =C2=A0it was an email=
 from John , GM4SLV<br>
John was saying it was too easy for him =C2=A0to decode =C2=A0 WOLF =C2=A0=
transmision from Jim. I =C2=A0thought immediately it is going to be too di=
fficult for me to do the same ..<br>
but it was a nice surprise:<br>
2009-09-10 19:36:31 &gt;WOLF10 =C2=A0-r 11025 -f 1000 -t 3 -w 0.0000<br>
t: =C2=A024 f:-2.129 a:-0.7 dp: 70.4 ci: 5 cj:257 27JXL*GCGV1KT0E ?<br>
t: =C2=A048 f: 1.439 a: 0.1 dp: 70.4 ci:13 cj:290 5 CL/.XMV. Q7GO ?<br>
t: =C2=A096 f:-0.322 a: 1.2 dp: 66.3 ci:11 cj: 46 X4*H4Y*08IQ/13X ?<br>
t: 192 f: 0.303 pm:28.63 jm:286 q: -0.5 -1.2 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -<br>
t: 288 f: 0.312 pm:32.73 jm:286 q: =C2=A02.5 =C2=A02.1 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -<b=
r>
t: 384 f: 0.322 pm:45.78 jm:286 q: =C2=A02.0 =C2=A02.2 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -<b=
r>
t: 480 f: 0.342 pm:62.10 jm:286 q: -0.3 -1.5 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -<br>
t: 576 f: 0.342 pm:83.95 jm:286 q: =C2=A02.7 =C2=A01.8 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -<b=
r>
t: 672 f: 0.342 pm:86.72 jm:286 q: =C2=A03.4 =C2=A02.6 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -<b=
r>
t: 768 f: 0.361 pm:103.4 jm:287 q: =C2=A02.6 =C2=A01.9 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -<b=
r>
t: 864 f: 0.371 pm:116.4 jm:287 q: =C2=A03.2 =C2=A00.9 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -<b=
r>
t: 960 f: 0.371 pm:125.2 jm:287 q: =C2=A05.3 =C2=A03.5 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -<b=
r>
t:1056 f: 0.381 pm:148.5 jm:287 q: =C2=A04.4 =C2=A04.3 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -<b=
r>
t:1152 f: 0.381 pm:151.3 jm:287 q: =C2=A05.9 =C2=A05.7 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -<b=
r>
t:1248 f: 0.381 pm:152.7 jm:287 q: =C2=A06.2 =C2=A06.0 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -<b=
r>
<br>
 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A073 de pe=
ter, sq7mpj<br>
<br>
qth: Lodz /jo91rs/<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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Many thanx dear Jim for this new contact with you.
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<DIV>Many thanx dear Jim for this new contact with you.</DIV>
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>the same old repetive rubbish.
>g3kev


very respectfull Mal




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Hi Andrey,

Well that is a new one for  me

Tnx- G ..

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>
> Hi Graham
>
> 2210   -25  1.2   0.503898  G0NBD IO83 23
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> my qth-loc: KO85sv
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Hello Lubos,

thank's report and info !

73 de Gus
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Lubos OK2BVG=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 9:09 PM
  Subject: LF: BHZ


  Hello Gus, LF!
  I am reading your FB signal in JN88KS:

  1846 -19  1.2   1.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
  1852 -16  1.3   1.503926  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
  1858 -18  1.2   1.503926  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
  1902  -7  1.2   1.503926  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30

  Lubos, OK2BVG


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<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4 face=3DArial>Hello Lubos,</FONT></EM><=
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<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4 face=3DArial>73 de Gus</FONT></EM></ST=
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Z JO57=20
  40<BR>1852 -16&nbsp; 1.3&nbsp;&nbsp; 1.503926&nbsp; 0 SM6BHZ JO57 40=
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James if you were a competent CW operator you would think different, like 
you say you have limited knowledge.
WSPR beacons ARE a LAZY APPROACH no skills required and vy limited regarding 
propagation predictions.
I had two nice solid QSO'S two nights ago on CW/QRS to Russia and Romania. I 
did not need WSPR assistance. Any experienced CW operator can check a band 
and give an opinion about propagation in real time, then proceed to make a 
QSO.
G3KEV

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "James Cowburn" <james.cowburn@virgin.net>
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Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 3:47 PM
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> Adding my thoughts to the debate, 500Khz and WSPR has rekindled my 
> interest
> in radio and I am learning lots in new areas.  As a G7 and not an expert 
> in
> CW, if CW was the only means of communication on the band then I would not
> have been as able to participate, experiment and learn as I have done with
> WSPR.  Additionally, the use of WSPR on other bands encouraged me on to 
> 500
> as I was definitely "weak signal" and now I am trying and enjoying CW QSOs
> too.
>
> The database and software allow the analysis and deduction of lots of info
> and data from the reports and their locations.
>
> For me it is not a case of CW vs WSPR (or indeed other data modes e.g. 
> WOLF)
> but far more having a go at them all in a challenging environment and 
> giving
> the old grey matter a bit of a "run out" and learning some new stuff into
> the bargain i.e. self training.
>
> As I have said in other posts, it whacks the pants off 20m SSB for sense 
> of
> achievement and enjoyment (as well as outright frustration!)
>
> I'm sure once we've all got WSPR sorted we'll be running WSJT in QSO mode
> and then we can exchange information as per the original poster's comment.
>
> Just my thoughts and YMMV
>
> With best regards
>
>
> Jim
>
>
> Dr. James Cowburn
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> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Peter Cleall
> Sent: 21 September 2009 14:18
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Cc: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: LF: defence of WSPR Signals
>
> I have always been interested in propagation.
> These WSPR signals are seen by some as repetitious rubbish.
>
> If you use , WSPR, the Internet database and your own receptions you soon
> realise that there are subtle variations in signal particularly QSB that 
> are
> different over day/ night paths, transitions at dawn and dusk and
> differences on N/S and E/W paths. Northern stations seem favoured for E/W
> propagation and distance between stations also has an effect.
>
> At last we have software and a process for examining in near real time the
> subtlety of these variations. We can see the signal reports from many
> distances and directions at the same time. I think we will learn a lot 
> more
> over the winter if we continue with these tests. I would like to think 
> that
> in the future we could have some coordinated test times which would get a
> greater number of receiving participants available at the same time.
>
> Personally I have been working on propagation with WSPR for several months
> on 30m. But  the recent activity by Andy, Jim and others has resulted in 
> me
> hunting out my 137kHz equipment that has not been used for a couple of 
> years
> and rebuilding a converter to hear my first signals on 500khz , since the
> commercial stations disappeared. I can see from the other reports on the
> database that I need to do more work on Aerials and i suspect that I still
> have a lot to learn about signals and equipment overload. Thee existence 
> of
> a few known reference signals is essential to improving ones equipment and
> knowledge. I t think this is all part of the spirit of amateur radio for 
> our
> self education in radio techniques which is a major justification for us 
> to
> have licenses.
>
> regards
> peterG8AFN
>
>
> Sep 21, 2009 10:52:38 AM, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org wrote:
>
> ===========================================
>
> WSPR signals last evening copied from G4JNT, G4WGT, G7NKS and SM6BHZ on
> 500kHz. Also very strong signal during the day from M0BMU on 137kHz.My
> report of your DFCW signal on 137 the other day, Jim, had the wrong
> frequency - sorry about that, added the difference 20Hz rather than
> subtracted from my RX offset - should have been 137.68 of course.Tend to
> agree with Mal's comments, I am having difficulty in seeing the point of
> some of this when there is little in the way of exchanged information
> between stations. There is a place for beacons, certainly. What concerns 
> me
> is that the casual listener tuning across the band probably has no idea
> there's anybody on.Vy 73,Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent, JO01MI.
>
>


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Hi Gus!

http://rw3adb.narod.ru/2009/25sep2009_SM6BHZ_SSB_CW/2.wav
CW 438
SSB not readable at moment

Roman

* Gus <begu@algonet.se> [Thu, 24 Sep 2009 20:18:39 +0200]:
> Dear LF,
>
> this evening i test an SSB Beacon, QRG 508 kHz LSB.
> Reports are welcome.
>
> 73 de Gus SM6BHZ
> www.sm6bhz.com
>




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>Tu John, 200watt,ant.sloper 12meter and tophat14meter best 73s
>Henny pa3cpm.
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Roger Lapthorn wrote:
> Good folks, Any WSPR spot reports would fill me with total amazement
> and delight.
> 


I'll be watching from the far north!

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At 07:37 PM 9/10/2009, J.B. wrote:
>Hello LFers,
>
>What are most of you fellows setting your Nr of frames value at
>in the Wolf Config screen?  How important is this setting as to
>its effect on decodes?  Thanks in advance for any/all replies.

Mine is set to 32 - but Rx is locked to GPS for good long term
stability and I let the sound card warm up a long time then key in
the exact sampling rate.  If the overall drift is substantial
it doesn't pay to use a long integration time because it reduces
the probability of seeing a sudden (but of short duration) upswing
in the signal quality because the averaging process will treat
all received frames equally, which implies any one frame with good
SNR won't count very much when competing with lots of others with
poor SNR.  I suppose one could come up with a formula based on
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Laurence, Gus, LF Group,

Thanks - found it in the WSPRnet database eventually... I was surprised I 
had not noticed BY3A at the time, but I think the database was filling up so 
fast at that time it just flew off the bottom of the page before I saw it! I 
did wonder why Gus was running 100% TX duty cycle.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Laurence BY3A-KL1X China" <hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com>
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Jim - that was 2008z and the path was about equal time between fully dark in 
Sweden and Pre dawn here in E China and follows the geometry of the setting 
sun pretty well.

http://www.kl1x.com/sm6bhz.jpg  -



 The Path to Eu is getting more and more physically cluttered as large 
concrete and steel edifices grows in front of me daily.



Cheers









> From: james.moritz@btopenworld.com
,
> Yes, that is very good - Congratulations! Would be interested to know what
> time did that occur?

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Hi Jim,

    > Band plans aside, do all the various WD/WE stations have access
to the same
> basic frequency range?

    No, WD2XSH has 495-510;  WE2XGR has 505-515 and most of the rest
just 505-510kHz.


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Jim, LF

0126 -27  0.9   0.137090  0 M0BMU IO91 23
0130 -28  0.7   0.137091  0 M0BMU IO91 23
0138 -29  0.7   0.137090  0 M0BMU IO91 23
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0412 -28  0.6   0.137090  0 M0BMU IO91 23
0416 -31  0.6   0.137090  0 M0BMU IO91 23


Marginal signals, but signals nontheless!

John
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On 21 Sep 2009 at 13:17, Peter Cleall wrote:

> I have always been interested in propagation.
> These WSPR signals are seen by some as repetitious rubbish.

Well having spent a few days looking at WSPR I would tend to fit best 
in the 'repetitious rubbish' group.... WSPR is specifically designed 
for weak signal reception, and there is certainly a case of doing this 
to catch openings to our friends in W and BY land. But at a local level 
I don't think it serves much purpose - it is true that you can 
automatically monitor propagation and QSB rates, but a 2 minute 
sampling time is FAR too long to get any sensible figures from this. At 
my QTH every signal I have copied has been perfectly readable by ear, 
some by a very considerable margin. Once you have monitored for a few 
hours there is little more to be gained and it is a painfully slow mode 
to even consider as a QSO mode.

The USA amateurs are fortunate in having a considerably wider band than 
us. To have what is effective beacon transmissions there for long 
periods in our 3kHz is not the best use of our space.

I shall be very shortly re-configuring my vertical back to its Top Band 
mode for the winter season. If the future of 500kHz lies only in WSPR 
beaconing it is a sad life being an amateur and I have far more useful 
things to do on the other bands.

73 Dave G3YMC

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Jim,

First copy was around 0125Z, with absolutely no sign of the signal 
before that. That's later than some of the WSPR copy on other nights, 
but there's been quite variation. I'll keep it running...

John, W1TAG

James Moritz wrote:
> Dear LF Group,
> 
> I am now running a "standard" WOLF 10 mode beacon on 503.500kHz for the 
> next few hours. Any reports would be very welcome. Information and 
> software downloads can be found at 
> http://freenet-homepage.de/dl4yhf/wolf/index.html. The beacon may shut 
> down from time to time, because the signal seems to scramble my ADSL 
> modem...
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> Cheers, Jim Moritz
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WSPR at G7NKS now off for day.

Will be back on again tonight



With best regards
 
 
Jim
 
 
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Dear LF

The past two days have been quite bad for signals I have noticed.  Normally
I get lots of decodes from many stations and now I am only getting Gus.
Also there is a lot of noise on the waterfall trace too.

Still hoping to catch Roger

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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dave Sergeant
Sent: 16 September 2009 08:38
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Subject: LF: Re: G3XBM 500kHz WSPR tests

On 16 Sep 2009 at 7:56, Roger Lapthorn wrote:

> Hi folks,
> 
> My WSPR beacon is closing shortly. Thanks for reports this morning from
> M0BMU, and from G3XVL and G6ALB yesterday. No others as yet.
> 
> Later today, and before my holiday away, I hope to try a couple of quick
> and simple changes to the antenna and ground that may result in a
> slightly greater antenna current. All being well, the beacon will be on
> again later this afternoon and overnight tonight. Any reports would be
> greatly appreciated so I can compare performance.
> 
> Further improvements will have to then wait until October.
> 
> 73s
> Roger G3XBM

I listened again last night Roger between 1920 and 2020z and not a 
trace of you on the waterfall. SM6BHZ and G7NKS were coming in as 
normal, though Gus's signal seemed well down on what it was the night 
before, mostly down about -10dB with the occasional peak to 0dB (Monday 
he was consistently +2 to +4dB). So maybe 'excellent conditions' to DL 
land but not so to Bracknell...

73 Dave G3YMC

http://www.davesergeant.com





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WE2XGR/2 will transmit in WOLF mode tonight from 2230 - 0330Z on 508.5 kHz. 
Local sunset is 2300Z. Reports are always appreciated.

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Was I the  only station to  rx this  cw beacon ... who was sending it=
 ?

G ..


From: Graham=20
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 8:37 PM
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Subject: LF: CW beacon qrp on 5033 ?


Who is  running a qrp beacon on 503.3  ... very low in to  io83lk, som=
e thing about  5 ..? .. watts and a loop ae might of  copied  G0WSJ bu=
t  could be wrong .. signal is just showing at Birmingham ..  not at=
 G4WGT grabber  and  very low in the  noise at Wallasey ..  ..looks li=
ke it has  closed ?=20

Beacon text is very long ... would be better with simple vvvv  test =
 de gxxxx  gxxxx gxxxx   etc as qsb and static kept  knocking bits out=
 of the  text .... at least it  proved the  rx set up  works !

Graham

G0NBD




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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Who is&nbsp; running a qrp beacon on=
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Beacon text is very long ... would be=
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c as qsb=20
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Jim,



yes,=C2=A0my capture=C2=A0range=C2=A0should be 136.9 to 137.1 kHz.=C2=A0Bu=
t as you say, mediterranean QRN seems overwhelming now (look at=C2=A0www.b=
litzortung.org=C2=A0), so decodes may be erratic at best. Monday morning=
 in daylight, you were consistent at about -23 dB SNR (2.5 kHz).



Kind regards,

Markus


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-----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung-----=20
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Verschickt: Mi., 23. Sept. 2009, 22:52
Thema: LF: Re: WSPR 137.0 kHz



Dear Markus, Andrey, LF Group,=C2=A0
=C2=A0
I am now running the WSPR beacon again on 135.5kHz "dial frequency", 137.0=
90kHz RF out. Hopefully, this will be within range of Markus' receiver, an=
d also near enough to 137.1k for Andrey.=C2=A0
=C2=A0
If anyone else is going to be on 137k tonight, I can set the RX to monitor=
 their QRG - if not, I could put the RX on 500kHz again.=C2=A0
=C2=A0
Looking at Markus' grabber tonight, it is nearly a white-out (or rather gr=
een-out ;-)) due to the loud QRN, but we will see.=C2=A0
=C2=A0
Cheers, Jim Moritz=C2=A0
73 de M0BMU =C2=A0

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<div>Jim,</div>


<div>&nbsp;</div>


<div>yes,&nbsp;my capture&nbsp;range&nbsp;should be 136.9 to 137.1 kHz.&nb=
sp;But as you say, mediterranean QRN seems overwhelming now (look at&nbsp;=
<A href=3D"http://www.blitzortung.org">www.blitzortung.org</A>&nbsp;), so=
 decodes may be erratic at best. Monday morning in daylight, you were cons=
istent at about -23 dB SNR (2.5 kHz).</div>


<div>&nbsp;</div>


<div>Kind regards,</div>


<div>Markus</div>


<div><br>
PS: to Andy and Graham, wouldn't 23 dB&nbsp;less than&nbsp;2.5 kHz&nbsp;be=
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<br>
-----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung----- <br>
Von: James Moritz &lt;james.moritz@btopenworld.com&gt;<br>
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<br>
Verschickt: Mi., 23. Sept. 2009, 22:52<br>
Thema: LF: Re: WSPR 137.0 kHz<br>
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SIZE: 12px; MARGIN: 0px; COLOR: #000; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial,=
 Sans-Serif; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff">Dear Markus, Andrey, LF Group,&nbsp;<=
br>
&nbsp;<br>
I am now running the WSPR beacon again on 135.5kHz "dial frequency", 137.0=
90kHz RF out. Hopefully, this will be within range of Markus' receiver, an=
d also near enough to 137.1k for Andrey.&nbsp;<br>
&nbsp;<br>
If anyone else is going to be on 137k tonight, I can set the RX to monitor=
 their QRG - if not, I could put the RX on 500kHz again.&nbsp;<br>
&nbsp;<br>
Looking at Markus' grabber tonight, it is nearly a white-out (or rather gr=
een-out ;-)) due to the loud QRN, but we will see.&nbsp;<br>
&nbsp;<br>
Cheers, Jim Moritz&nbsp;<br>
73 de M0B
MU &nbsp;<br>
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Sorry John I was off last evenings.
 I don't know how close you are to F1AFJ but I make it into
Jean-Pierre's grabber almost every night that I'm on.

--=20
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On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 11:42 AM, John RABSON <john.rabson@numeo.fr> wrote=
:
> Warren,
>
> Static is still very high here. =A0Nothing detected from you on Sunday=
 evening. =A0I will try later in the week, but tonight (Monday) is not pos=
sible.
>
> 73
> John F5VLF
>
> *********** REPLY SEPARATOR =A0***********
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> On 25/09/2009 at 16:40 Warren Ziegler wrote:
>
>>John,
>>
>> =A0 XGJ =A0is on 137.7798 here but sunset is not until 22:30 UTC.
>>
>>--
>>73 Warren K2ORS
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>>> At 1928z.
>>>
>>> F5VLF
>>>
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Trong signal Dave G3YXM i received your audio
many thanks for qso
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Hi Gary, LF!
TNX!
Hope to look that signal now.
How many EIRP?

Roman


* Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk> [Tue, 15 Sep 2009 10:22:58 +0100]:
> Hi Roman, LF,
>
> The signal on 503.700 kHz you can see on my grabber is the propagation
> beacon being run by Andy G4JNT, transmissions are at15 minute
> intervals at 0004, 0019, 0034 & 0049 minutes of each hour. The beacon
> now runs 24/7.
>
> It has a similar function & features to the beacons running on the
> 5MHz band (GB3RAL, GB3WES & GB3ORK).
>
> For a full description of the beacon on 503.700 kHz please have a look
> at the UK500KHZ group web site at :-
>
> 
http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/multi-function-beacon-by-andy-g4jnt
>
> Regards es 73
>
> Gary - G4WGT.
>
>
>
> 2009/9/15 Roman RW3ADB <rw3adb@rambler.ru>:
> >
> > Hi Gary, LF!
> >
> > Tell me pse, what is a signal I can see some time into G4WGT 
grabber?
> >
> > --
> > Roman RW3ADB.
> >
>




--
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What has that got to do with LF ?

Andy
www.g4jnt.com

this email has been scanned for political correctness by the nanny state


2009/9/2 Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>

> You just could not make it up !
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqsT4xnKZPg
>
> G .
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "John RABSON" <john.rabson@numeo.fr>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 9:47 PM
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>
>
>> On 01/09/2009 at 20:17 mal hamilton wrote:
>>
>> Roger I am stating the facts, someone else mentioned seeing the signals
>>> on the waterfall but they were not decoding. I could easlily have made a
>>> qso on cw given the strength of signals whereas WSPR was not decoding, so
>>> the exercise is pointless.
>>>
>>
>> That was me.  I wasn't decoding because I don't yet have a decoder.  Had I
>> had one, and given the snr I observed, I would have expected 100% copy. On
>> the few occasions I have heard Mal, his snr has not been anything like as
>> good as WSPR.
>>
>> John F5VLF
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>> No virus found in this incoming message.
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<div>What has that got to do with LF ?</div>
<div><br clear=3D"all">Andy<br><a href=3D"http://www.g4jnt.com">www.g4jnt.=
com</a><br><br>this email has been scanned for political correctness by th=
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<div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/9/2 Graham <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
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<br>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8e=
x; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">You just could not make it up=
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<br>G .<br><br>--------------------------------------------------<br>From:=
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To: &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" target=3D"_blank">=
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<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8e=
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<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8e=
x; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">Roger I am stating the facts,=
 someone else mentioned seeing the signals<br>on the waterfall but they we=
re not decoding. I could easlily have made a<br>
qso on cw given the strength of signals whereas WSPR was not decoding, so<=
br>the exercise is pointless.<br></blockquote><br>That was me. =A0I wasn&#=
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d given the snr I observed, I would have expected 100% copy. On the few oc=
casions I have heard Mal, his snr has not been anything like as good as WS=
PR.<br>
<br>John F5VLF<br><br><br><br><br></blockquote><br><br><br>
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Hi Gerhard,

I think this must have been Heinz, DJ6GT in Langelsheim, who is regula=
rly calling and testing in QRSS mode. As far as I know, he has a calls=
ign@darc.de address.

73 de Markus, DF6NM


----- Original Message -----=20
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Subject: LF: DJ9GT on 137700 20db SNR


Hello group!

Just received a CQ from DJ9GT on 137700 with 15-20db over noise in JN8=
8HL.

I couldn't find a personal mail-address, so hopefully he's member of=
 the list.

I'm a LF-beginner and this is actually the first signal that I receive=
d with my Marconi-antenna. 90m of wire about 12m high and a 2,2mH load=
ing coil.

RX is Kenwood TS440S with preamp.

I have got a lot of support and tips from Ossi, OE5ODL (Thank you) and=
 I hope to have a TX ready in early December.=20

Cheers

Gerhard Hickl
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi Gerhard,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I think this must have been Heinz, DJ=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Subject: LF: DJ9GT on 137700 20db=20
SNR</FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial><BR><FONT size=3D2></FONT></FONT></DIV><FONT=
 face=3DArial   size=3D2>Hello group!<BR><BR>Just received a CQ from=
 DJ9GT on 137700 with 15-20db=20
over noise in JN88HL.<BR><BR>I couldn't find a personal mail-address,=
 so=20
hopefully he's member of the list.<BR><BR>I'm a LF-beginner and this=
 is actually=20
the first signal that I received with my Marconi-antenna. 90m of wire=
 about 12m=20
high and a 2,2mH loading coil.<BR><BR>RX is Kenwood TS440S with preamp=
.<BR><BR>I=20
have got a lot of support and tips from Ossi, OE5ODL (Thank you) and=
 I hope to=20
have a TX ready in early December. <BR><BR>Cheers<BR><BR>Gerhard=20
Hickl<BR>OE3GHB<BR><BR></FONT></BODY></HTML>

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Hi Graham

2210   -25  1.2   0.503898  G0NBD IO83 23

my qth-loc: KO85sv

73
Andrey


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Dear Jay, John, LF Group

Having arrived home, I see I have been copying WE2XGR/2 since about 
midnight. I started up another instance of WOLF GUI upon seeing that 
WE2XGR/3 was also on, and have just started to get copy at about 0220utc.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU



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* James Moritz <james.moritz@btopenworld.com> [Sun, 6 Sep 2009 21:11:44 
+0100]:
> ...I should have said that it is on 503.975kHz, 502.4k "dial 
frequency"

The other fragment of the similar signal rx'd onto 504.950:
http://rw3adb.narod.ru/2009/7sep2009_503.5kHz/503.5W_3_00010.jpg

Roman

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "James Moritz" <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 9:05 PM
> Subject: LF: WSPR beacon
>
>
> > Dear LF Group,
> >
> > The M0BMU WSPR beacon is running again - I have jacked up the 
antenna
> to
> > increase the ERP a bit. G4WGT and G7NKS are also active - any 
reports
> > would be very welcome.
> >
> > Cheers, Jim Moritz
> > 73 de M0BMU
> >
>
>




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Dear Andy, LF Group,

I think adding WSPR transmissions would be a useful extension of your 
current beacon - it would give it a weak-signal capability that would extend 
the range. Amongst others, one of the things that is interesting about the 
current WSPR tests is the way the signal level at fairly long distances 
drops away rapidly when it gets light, but does not dissapear entirely - 
perhaps due to ground wave, or some sort of attenuated skywave. but it is 
awkward for most stations to run a beacon all day to monitor this due to the 
"no unattended operation" stipulation of the licence.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU 



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Andy,

Yes that would be a good  idea as it  would increase the  number of =
 monitor stations , and as your system is  software defined you  could=
 simply  qso  inside the  '502.4' wspr window ... as the  wspr  system=
 perhaps more 'sensitive' you  could reduce power by say  10dB over th=
e  120 second  tx period to save 'your' system ?

I think there still may be an  issue with the wspr  frequency interims=
 of operations outside Europe on higher channels which is a pity as it=
 reduces the  opportunities to monitor , with the 504  carrier present=
ing  quite a strong signal, it's  perhaps not  desirable to  have it=
 in the wspr pass band as it may (is) cause false decodes , especially=
 when 'modulation' is  present, =20

Thank you  for  running the  beacon over the  year and Gary  for  sett=
ing up a perm ant monitoring station with the  results displayed on hi=
s web page, the  saved text data files will be available shortly,   li=
nked to the  beacon page on the uk500khz group and may be  plotted on=
 line.=20
  =20


From: Andy Talbot=20
Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 1:58 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Subject: LF: 'JNT Beacon off


>From tomorrow (Monday 2009/09/07) my beacon on 503.7kHz will be off fo=
r a few days pending various odd jobs around here.   Hopefully it shou=
ld be back again next weekend.

As we approach the winter months, would it be worth modifying to add=
 a WSPR transmission as well?   I don't want to stop the 15 minute tim=
ed signal on 503.7 for auto logging, but it wouldn't be too difficult=
 to add a WSPR transmission between those, on a different frequency so=
mewhere in the 503.8 to 504.0 range.

Andy
www.g4jnt.com

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<DIV>From tomorrow (Monday 2009/09/07) my beacon on 503.7kHz will be=
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Thanks for the screen shots Jim.

I continue to be simply amazed that my tiny signal is being decoded by  
ANYONE at all. It certainly proves what a wonderful resource WSPR is for  
experimenting with QRP, antennas, rigs etc. on any band, but especially on  
136 and 500kHz.

73s
Roger G3XBM



On 17 Sep 2009 20:29, James Moritz <james.moritz@btopenworld.com> wrote:
> Dear Dave, Roger, LF Group,



> I have attached a screen shot of WSPR signals from SM6BHZ and G3XBM  
> received just now, using Spectrum Lab set up for QRSS3 reception. The  
> corresponding WSPR spots were:



> 1836 -12 0.0 0.503925 0 SM6BHZ JO57 33

> 1840 -27 2.9 0.503890 0 G3XBM JO02 0



> SM6BHZ was an audible signal which would have been weak but copy-able CW  
> - I expect Gus's signal will pick up by 10dB or so as the night  
> progresses. G3XBM is never audible at all - the QRN is building rapidly  
> now, but during the day I get 100% copy at about -25 or -26dB; when noise  
> levels build up I sometimes get correct copy at -30dB or so. So that's  
> what it looks like when it is working ;-)



> It makes no detectable difference whether I use the SSB filter or 250Hz  
> CW filter on the IC718 - even the local signals on 500k are not really  
> strong enough to overload the audio, provided the RF gain is backed well  
> off so that the S meter reads about s7 or 8. You do need the narrow  
> filter on 136k of course.



> Cheers, Jim Moritz

> 73 de M0BMU


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Thanks for the screen shots Jim. <br /><br />I continue to be simply amaze=
d that my tiny signal is being decoded by ANYONE at all.  It certainly pro=
ves what a wonderful resource WSPR is for experimenting with QRP, antennas=
, rigs etc. on any band, but especially on 136 and 500kHz. <br /><br />73s=
<br />Roger   G3XBM<br /><br /><br /><br />On 17 Sep 2009 20:29, James Mor=
itz &lt;james.moritz@btopenworld.com&gt; wrote:<br />&gt; Dear Dave, Roger=
, LF Group,<br />&gt; <br />&gt; <br />&gt; <br />&gt; I have attached a=
 screen shot of WSPR signals from SM6BHZ and G3XBM received just now, usin=
g Spectrum Lab set up for QRSS3 reception. The corresponding WSPR spots we=
re:<br />&gt; <br />&gt; <br />&gt; <br />&gt; 1836 -12 =A00.0 =A0 0.50392=
5 =A00 SM6BHZ JO57 33<br />&gt; <br />&gt; 1840 -27 =A02.9 =A0 0.503890 =
=A00 G3XBM JO02 0<br />&gt; <br />&gt; <br />&gt; <br />&gt; SM6BHZ was an=
 audible signal which would have been weak but copy-able CW - I expect Gus=
&#39;s signal will pick up by 10dB or so as the night progresses. G3XBM is=
 never audible at all - the QRN is building rapidly now, but during the da=
y I get 100% copy at about -25 or -26dB; when noise levels build up I some=
times get correct copy at -30dB or so. So that&#39;s what it looks like wh=
en it is working ;-)<br />&gt; <br />&gt; <br />&gt; <br />&gt; It makes=
 no detectable difference whether I use the SSB filter or 250Hz CW filter=
 on the IC718 - even the local signals on 500k are not really strong enoug=
h to overload the audio, provided the RF gain is backed well off so that=
 the S meter reads about s7 or 8. You do need the narrow filter on 136k of=
 course.<br />&gt; <br />&gt; <br />&gt; <br />&gt; Cheers, Jim Moritz<br=
 />&gt; <br />&gt; 73 de M0BMU<br />&gt;

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The G4JNT  Beacon on 503.700kHz is back on.   Every 15 minutes at the t+4
minute epoch.

I'll have to think how to include a WSPR waveform as well as the original
signal type.   It will almost certainly  be too much for a single 16F628 PIC
to be able to include both.   Can probably do it if I remove the PSK31
component, but there have been several reports / decodes of that, so it
ought to remain.

Easiest solution may be to use two PIC / DDS drivers, one handiing each
signal type and work out an arbitration scheme for when they both want to Tx
at the same time.


Andy
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<div>The G4JNT=A0 Beacon on 503.700kHz is back on.=A0=A0 Every 15 minutes=
 at the t+4 minute epoch.</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>I&#39;ll have to think how to include a WSPR waveform as well as the=
 original signal type.=A0=A0 It=A0will almost certainly =A0be too much for=
 a single 16F628 PIC to be able to include both.=A0=A0 Can probably do it=
 if I remove the PSK31 component, but there have been several reports / de=
codes of that, so it ought to remain.</div>

<div>=A0</div>
<div>Easiest solution may be to use two PIC / DDS=A0drivers, one handiing=
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Hi Jim,
Downloaded WOLF yesterday afternoon. Tuned to 503.5 CW yesterday eveni=
ng, put WOLF into RX mode, didn't input any settings and there you wer=
e! I was amazed at how far I could off tune and decoding still continu=
ed. Mind you, to me you are a relative local. Like John I am going to=
 have to read up and learn what all the figures mean.
Thanks for test, interesting if nothing else.
Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent (JO01MI).

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Downloaded WOLF yesterday afternoon.=
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Dear Jim (et al),

Thanks for this interesting analysis. It does indeed suggest *plenty* of
scope for improvement in the coming months.

As I've said several times in the last week, I'm gobsmacked that anyone,
apart from G6ALB 3kms away, is able to hear me with the set-up I have. The
500kHz WSPR beacon will run one more time overnight tonight  then it will be
off for 2-3 weeks.

My wife is wanting her dressing table back as the tiny ATU is sitting on it
and tuning is very sharp; every time she puts anything down I have to check
the antenna current is peaked :-))

You know I'm like a kid: I get *so* excited looking at the spots and
thinking about gradually making improvements and seeing my coverage extend
on 500kHz.

My wife just humours me!

73s
Roger G3XBM


2009/9/19 James Moritz <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>

> Dear Roger, LF Group,
>
> It is interesting to make an estimate of what G3XBM's ERP might be...
>
> The noise level at M0BMU during relatively quiet daytime conditions I
> estimate to be of the order of 3uV/m in the 2.5kHz WSPR reference bandwidth.
> The reported SNR gets up to about -25dB, making the signal level from G3XBM
> about 0.18uV/m.
>
> ERP = (Ed)^2 / 49; with E = 0.18 x 10e-6, d = 69000m , ERP is about 3uW
> with only "geometric spreading" propagation losses. But there is some
> additional reduction in field strength due to ground wave propagation
> losses, perhaps 3dB with "good" ground, so the ERP would then become about
> 6uW. Diffraction losses due to the curvature of the earth are negligible at
> this distance.
>
> Obviously, this could be +/- several dB due to various uncertainties, but
> should be of the right order of magnitude. Plenty of potential for
> improvement then!
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
>


-- 
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http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
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Dear Jim (et al),<br><br>Thanks for this interesting analysis. It does ind=
eed suggest <u>plenty</u> of scope for improvement in the coming months.=
 <br><br>As I&#39;ve said several times in the last week, I&#39;m gobsmack=
ed that anyone, apart from G6ALB 3kms away, is able to hear me with the se=
t-up I have. The 500kHz WSPR beacon will run one more time overnight tonig=
ht=A0 then it will be off for 2-3 weeks.=A0 <br>
<br>My wife is wanting her dressing table back as the tiny ATU is sitting
on it and tuning is very sharp; every time she puts anything down I have
to check the antenna current is peaked :-))<br><br>
You know I&#39;m like a kid: I get <i>so</i> excited looking at the spots=
 and thinking about gradually making improvements and seeing my coverage=
 extend on 500kHz. <br><br>My wife just humours me!<br><br>73s<br>Roger G3=
XBM<br>
<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/9/19 James Moritz <span dir=3D"ltr=
">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:james.moritz@btopenworld.com">james.moritz@btopenw=
orld.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"bord=
er-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-=
left: 1ex;">
Dear Roger, LF Group,<br>
<br>
It is interesting to make an estimate of what G3XBM&#39;s ERP might be...<=
br>
<br>
The noise level at M0BMU during relatively quiet daytime conditions I esti=
mate to be of the order of 3uV/m in the 2.5kHz WSPR reference bandwidth.=
 The reported SNR gets up to about -25dB, making the signal level from G3X=
BM about 0.18uV/m.<br>

<br>
ERP =3D (Ed)^2 / 49; with E =3D 0.18 x 10e-6, d =3D 69000m , ERP is about=
 3uW with only &quot;geometric spreading&quot; propagation losses. But the=
re is some additional reduction in field strength due to ground wave propa=
gation losses, perhaps 3dB with &quot;good&quot; ground, so the ERP would=
 then become about 6uW. Diffraction losses due to the curvature of the ear=
th are negligible at this distance.<br>

<br>
Obviously, this could be +/- several dB due to various uncertainties, but=
 should be of the right order of magnitude. Plenty of potential for improv=
ement then!<br>
<br>
Cheers, Jim Moritz<br>
73 de M0BMU <br>
<br>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>----------------------=
---------------------------------------<br><a href=3D"http://g3xbm-qrp.blo=
gspot.com/">http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.g3=
xbm.co.uk">http://www.g3xbm.co.uk</a><br>
G3XBM =A0 =A0GQRP 1678 =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL G11088<br>

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James Cowburn wrote:
> Hi John
> 
> Let me know if you rx the new and improved G7NKS!
> 

James, LF,


Almost too easy now!

090911 2024    -24  1.1   0.503943  G7NKS IO92 23
090911 2032    -24  1.2   0.503942  G7NKS IO92 23
090911 2054    -27  0.9   0.503942  G7NKS IO92 23
090911 2114    -26  1.2   0.503942  G7NKS IO92 23
090911 2130    -24  1.5   0.503942  G7NKS IO92 23
090911 2150    -18  1.5   0.503942  G7NKS IO92 23


Will stay on 502.4 WSPR overnight to compare with previous fleeting 
reception of you on previous occasions.

It's looking good so far though, as I've never had any decodes so early 
before.

Cheers,

John



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* Alberto di Bene <dibene@usa.net> [Wed, 23 Sep 2009 00:30:36 +0200]:
> Good evening Steve,
>
>     well, well, you make me blush... there are a lot of other very 
good
> programs
> capable of displaying QRSS. Maybe Argo has the merit of having been 
the
> first,
> so it got more widespread.

Not it all, Alberto! I'm use ARGO and SPL at moment usually.
Some time I copy pale and readable trace in ARGO and nothing into SPL 
wide window.
ARGO more good with her small-band by the S/N then other. And more 
sensitive too.
ARGO is not out of any other errors of course.

Roman

> And thanks for the report of 136kHz activity
> in VK,
> though I don't think I have any hope to be able to receive one of 
those
> stations.
>
> If you are interested in SDR, keep an eye on my soft_radio Yahoo list,
> maybe
> in Q1 next year there will be an announcement about a new program.
>
> All the best
>
> 73  Alberto  I2PHD
> ---------------------------------------
>
> VK2ZTO wrote:
> > G'day Alberto,
> >
> > Nice to hear from you again too.
> >
> > As you may know, we here in VK have been granted access to 136kHz 
this
> year,
> > albeit by way of a sort of NOV.    Almost all of the active VK LF
> stations
> > are using your excellent QRSS viewer ARGO.   So, once again, thank 
you
> for
> > providing this.
> >
> > LF reception highlights for me using ARGO have been the signals from
> ZL
> > (ZL3JE) on 137.900kHz, various intra-VK transmissions, daytime
> reception of
> > a ZL NDB carrier using 120s mode on 214kHz (distance 2000km) and,
> recently,
> > reception of Mori's (JH1GVY) QRSS120 beacon on 137777.4Hz from JA
> (8000km)
> > from his balloon antenna.    Despite the usual background noise from
> the
> > jaded "pooh-poohers" and "dunbefores" I derive a lot of enjoyment 
out
> of
> > these activities.
> >
> > The enjoyment derived from these would not be possible without your
> > software.
> >
> > Along with your other software you have made a positive contribution
> to our
> > hobby and (I apologise for using an 'F' word) raised the level of 
FUN
> for a
> > lot of operators.
> >
> > Sorry to embarass you with this paean, but to not acknowledge such
> > contributions would be small-minded in the extreme.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > 73 Steve
> >
> >
> >
> > .
> >
>
>




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James
Your signal daytime good audio copy plus visual and decoding, at dusk=
 it dropped 10db and was not decoding but visible and good for QRS 3.
Instead of improving after dark it has got worse and the long haul noi=
se is not helping. If u were using QRS 3 we could work and you must be=
 hearing me just got a report from EU.
MAL

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: James Cowburn=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 7:55 PM
  Subject: LF: RE: G7NKS WSPR


  Just trying Mal on CW

  =20

  Will be back on WSPR in a bit

  =20

  With best regards

  =20

  =20

  Jim

  =20

  =20

  Dr. James Cowburn

  26 Birch Close

  Broom

  Biggleswade

  Beds

  SG18 9NR

  =20

  T +44 (0) 1767 600522

  M+44 (0) 7967 300152

  E james.cowburn@virgin.net

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  From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group=
@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB
  Sent: 16 September 2009 19:05
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
  Subject: LF: G7NKS WSPR

  =20

  WSPR record for G7NKS. Looking for others!

  =20

  1658  -8  0.8   0.503942 -1 G7NKS IO92 23

  1720  -4  0.7   0.503944 -1 G7NKS IO92 23

  1732  -5  0.9   0.503942 -1 G7NKS IO92 23
  1740  -4  0.9   0.503942  1 G7NKS IO92 23

  1749  -7  1.6   0.503948 -1 G7NKS IO92 23

  =20

  73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor, S.E. England

  =20

    -----Original Message-----
    From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_gro=
up@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Roger Lapthorn
    Sent: 16 September 2009 15:48
    To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
    Subject: LF: G3XBM 500kHz WSPR beacon back on - any stronger?

    Good Folks,

    Have made some quick changes to the 500kHz antenna and ground syst=
em (now using my 10m halo and feed now as a short vertical with top ca=
pacity loading and using the 15m long-wire as a radial along with the=
 central heating ground) and am putting the WSPR beacon back on shortl=
y. Interested to know if the changes have made much difference. Antenn=
a current is higher so I hope it will radiate a some more. Reports and=
 screenshots gratefully received.

    On RX, G7NKS is about the same S/N as this morning before the chan=
ges. Not quite sure what this is telling me.

    BTW, I know I drift upwards about 50Hz for about 20 mins as the tr=
ansverter xtal oscillator settles.

    73s
    Roger G3XBM

    -------------------------------------------------------------
    http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/
    http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
    G3XBM    GQRP 1678      ISWL G11088



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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>James</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Your signal daytime good audio copy=
 plus visual and=20
decoding, at dusk it dropped 10db and was not decoding but visible and=
 good for=20
QRS 3.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Instead of improving after dark it ha=
s got worse=20
and the long haul noise is not helping. If u were using QRS 3 we could=
 work and=20
you must be hearing me just got a report from EU.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>MAL</FONT></DIV>
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f_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, September 16=
, 2009 7:55=20
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: RE: G7NKS WSPR</=
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  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=
     style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Just=
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     style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Will=
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rg</st1:PersonName>=20
    [mailto:owner-<st1:PersonName       w:st=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blac=
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ame><BR><B><SPAN       style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B>=
 LF: G3XBM 500kHz WSPR beacon=20
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ck changes to=20
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ed now as=20
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wire as a=20
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 WSPR beacon=20
    back on shortly. Interested to know if the changes have made much=
=20
    difference. Antenna current is higher so I hope it will radiate a=
 some more.=20
    Reports and screenshots gratefully received.<BR><BR>On RX, G7NKS=
 is about=20
    the same S/N as this morning before the changes. Not quite sure wh=
at this is=20
    telling me.<BR><BR>BTW, I know I drift upwards about 50Hz for abou=
t 20 mins=20
    as the transverter xtal oscillator settles.<BR><BR>73s<BR>Roger G3=
XBM<BR       clear=3Dall><BR>-----------------------------------------=
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Hi LF group
The F8boj beacon is op 137740hz
good afternoon
your servant
Claude F8boj Jn16wa

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Hello Jim,

Big signal with QSB peaking 40 dB above the noise.


2009-09-08 22:41:39 >WOLF10  -r 11025.000 -f 700 -t 2 -d 10 -w 0.0000
t:  24 f:-1.382 a: 0.7 dp:137.8 ci: 8 cj:383 56PM9AIFATWYJ2C ?
t:  48 f:-1.383 a: 0.8 dp:134.2 ci: 4 cj: 29 CSIOD.78XL9T ZU ?
t:  96 f:-1.368 a:-0.6 dp:148.8 ci: 4 cj: 29 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t: 192 f:-1.367 pm:1426972 jm:902 q: 14.0 14.2 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t: 288 f:-1.367 pm:2456988 jm:902 q: 17.1 17.5 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
22:46:46 >WOLF RESTARTED
t:  24 f:-1.370 a:-0.2 dp:163.3 ci: 0 cj:  0 W5SH2GN8UFT*GR  ?
t:  48 f:-1.368 a:-0.2 dp:160.9 ci:10 cj:120 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t:  96 f:-1.369 a:-0.2 dp:156.8 ci:10 cj:120 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t: 192 f:-1.367 pm:455476 jm:720 q:  9.5  9.3 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -


73,

Michel / f5wk


> Dear LF Group,

> I am now running a "standard" WOLF 10 mode beacon on 503.500kHz for the=
 next
> few hours. Any reports would be very welcome. Information and software=
=20
> downloads can be found at
> http://freenet-homepage.de/dl4yhf/wolf/index.html.=20
> The beacon may shut down from time to time, because the signal seems to=
=20
> scramble my ADSL modem...

> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU=20





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Dear Andy,

Looking, well, nominal here...


1206  -1  1.6   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
1210  -1  1.2   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
1214  -1  0.2   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
1222  -1  0.2   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
1226  -1  0.2   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
1228  -1  0.1   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23

... spots are being uploaded to WSPRnet.org database.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU


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Hi Roman, Dear LF
Yesterday we testing LF transmiter.
We will be 2-way QRV long wave special event HF70W in next weekend night
(19/20 September).
--
Vy 73!
Marcin SQ2BXI



> HI LF!
>
> Special event http://www.qrz.com/db/HF70W
> on 137.778.0 in Moscow now!
> Better onto RN3AGC grabber: http://www.rn3agc.msk.ru/grabber1.shtml
> My grabber started, but is not copy at moment:
> http://qrss.nm.ru/grabber.html
>
> Visible onto DF6NM and F1AFJ grabbers too.
>
> --
> Roman RW3ADB.
>



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WSPR is a minority interest in producing repetive rubbish on 500 Kcs.=
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160 metres has similar characteristics to 500 so pse go there with wsp=
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On 12 Sep 2009 at 9:09, John Andrews wrote:

> As you point out, the WSPR program does not seem to have a way to 
> compensate for far-off actual sampling rates. But WSPR's author, K1JT,
> has a jack-of-all-trades program called WSJT that DOES allow for
> calibration. WSPR is one of a number of modes offered in WSJT. So, that
> might be a way out for those stuck with on-board audio setups.

I had a quick play with WSJT7. But it looks as if WSPR was an add on to 
the original program, its implementation is a bit basic and the GUI 
totally different from the separate WSPR program.

1. The bands seem to be pre-programmed in, you select just by the band 
and there seems to be no means of setting a custom frequency. 500kHz 
(and 60m) are noticeably absent, there is no 'other'.
2. The displayed decodes are a different format and it only tells you 
the call decoded, dB strength and a DF figure in Hz from presumably 
what it considers the centre of the WSPR spectrum - not the actual 
frequency, and the time of the decode is not given.
3. There is no band map, the upper right hand corner is taken up with a 
moon data window which may be of interest to moon bounce people.... and 
this cannot be turned off.
4. There is a seperate waterfall display in a seperate window, which 
may be useful to some.
5. Although it obviously decodes in the same 2 minute periods it does 
not show this by displaying 'waiting to start' at any time, it shows 
'receiving' continuously. I also failed to work out how to set any TX 
periods, or how to be sure I had turned them off.
6. There seems no option to upload spots.
7. And if you select any other soundcard input than the default 0 one 
it crashes at startup. From a Google this is a well known problem...
8. Supplied documentation is patchy. The main manual does not even 
mention WSPR mode and the additional quick guide for WSPR talks a lot 
about theory but virtally nil about actually using it.

I didn't get round to doing any sound card calibration, it obvously can 
be done but even that looked to be a bit fiddly. I hope K1JT does add a 
calibration routine to WSPR to address this issue.

73 Dave G3YMC

http://www.davesergeant.com



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Zdravstvuj tovarishch Roman! and LF group.
Spasibo za tvoi raport!
Ja budu peredovatj WSPR takzhe segodnja vecherom.
Kazhetsja chto moi signali horosho dohodjat do tjebja.
73 de Gus SM6BHZ

www.sm6bhz.com


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> 
> Hi Gus, LF!
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John,

Well, I'd better stick to 33%  as the 2N3904/2N3906 transistors are not
really PA devices and have no heatsinks. Truly I would be *utterly* amazed
if my uW signals reached you, but I am beginning to think that anything is
now possible.

73s
Roger  G3XBM



2009/9/13 John P-G <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk>

> Roger,
>
> One more thing - since you aren't set up for transceive operation and your
> TX power is fairly low would it be possible for you to operate in continuous
> TX mode. Then we might spot more easily any fleeting openings in
> propagation. It would be a shame to miss a short enhancement if it were to
> occur during one of your non-transmit periods.
>
> Just a thought
>
> John
>
>
>


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John,<br><br>Well, I&#39;d better stick to 33%=A0 as the 2N3904/2N3906 tra=
nsistors are not really PA devices and have no heatsinks. Truly I would be=
 <i>utterly</i> amazed if my uW signals reached you, but I am beginning to=
 think that anything is now possible.<br>
<br>73s<br>Roger=A0 G3XBM<br><br><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/9=
/13 John P-G <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gm4slv@sighthound.dem=
on.co.uk">gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote clas=
s=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); marg=
in: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Roger,<br>
<br>
One more thing - since you aren&#39;t set up for transceive operation and=
 your TX power is fairly low would it be possible for you to operate in co=
ntinuous TX mode. Then we might spot more easily any fleeting openings in=
 propagation. It would be a shame to miss a short enhancement if it were=
 to occur during one of your non-transmit periods.<br>

<br>
Just a thought<br><font color=3D"#888888">
<br>
John<br>
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Dear Lawrence, John, LF group,

Thanks for monitoring the Wolf beacon last night.

The beacon is now (1846utc) running again in standard WOLF10 mode on 
503.500kHz - all being well, it will be going overnight. Any reports will be 
very welcome.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU

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Ill leave the receiver on wspr on 502.4, Wolf10 on 503.5 and upload the wspr 
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Good evening Gus,

nice audio here in Nuernberg as well! Generally the CW part seems a bi=
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Hi John

It most certainly is/was!!  Very chuffed given that my ant system is
slightly sub-optimal!  It will be good to see what I can manage when I get a
decent system up and running

Managed it again last night too

Thanks for the reports

With best regards
 
 
Jim
 
 
Dr. James Cowburn

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James Cowburn wrote:

> 
> For now I am back on WSPR 502.4

James,

I just checked on the WSPRNET site, and sorted all your spots by 
distance - looks like you made it the Shetland twice a couple of days ago.


Searched in my ALL_MEPT file and found:

090908 0042   2 -29  1.5   0.503947  G7NKS IO92 30

090908 0350   4 -27  1.2   0.503948  G7NKS IO92 30


WSRPNET calculates this as 916km

Best DX?

Cheers,

John
GM4SLV
Clousta
Shetland
IP90gg






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Hi Marcin!
Will be glad to make an x-band via 40/80m with you if I copy your signal 
137 here.
Do not got solid copy and any trace in my location yesterday.

Roman

* Marcin <bxi@go2.pl> [Sat, 12 Sep 2009 22:03:51 +0200]:
> Hi Roman, Dear LF
> Yesterday we testing LF transmiter.
> We will be 2-way QRV long wave special event HF70W in next weekend 
night
> (19/20 September).
> > HI LF!
> >
> > Special event http://www.qrz.com/db/HF70W
> > on 137.778.0 in Moscow now!
> > Better onto RN3AGC grabber: http://www.rn3agc.msk.ru/grabber1.shtml
> > My grabber started, but is not copy at moment:
> > http://qrss.nm.ru/grabber.html
> >
> > Visible onto DF6NM and F1AFJ grabbers too.
> >
> > --
> > Roman RW3ADB.
> >
>
>




--
Roman RW3ADB.


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Dear LF Group,

The M0BMU WSPR beacon is running again - I have jacked up the antenna to 
increase the ERP a bit. G4WGT and G7NKS are also active - any reports would 
be very welcome.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU 



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1454  -9  1.0   0.137000  0 M0BMU IO91 23
1500  -9  2.3   0.137000  0 M0BMU IO91 23
1508  -9  0.9   0.137000  0 M0BMU IO91 23
1514  -9  0.9   0.137000  0 M0BMU IO91 23
1522  -9  0.9   0.137000  0 M0BMU IO91 23
1526  -8  1.0   0.137000  0 M0BMU IO91 23
1532  -9  0.9   0.137000  0 M0BMU IO91 23
1536  -9  0.8   0.137000  0 M0BMU IO91 23
1544 -10  1.2   0.137000  0 M0BMU IO91 23
1550 -10  0.9   0.137000  0 M0BMU IO91 23

73

Victor
PA3FNY

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens James Moritz
Verzonden: zondag 20 september 2009 15:17
Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Onderwerp: LF: Re: WSPR 137.0k


Dear LF Group,

The M0BMU WSPR beacon is now running on 135.5kHz "dial frequency", 137.0kHz
RF out. Note change of frequency to try to avoid DCF39/HGA22 sidebands,
which some stations experience problems with. Any reports over the next few
hours would be very welcome.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU




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Toni,

sorry to read that...  You may be inclined to rebuild your long helica=
l coil, I suppose it had excellent cooling and high voltage=20
properties.

Best of luck,
Markus DF6NM

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1kw was a little too much for my antenna coil. The coil former melted
down and tomorrow I have to get another one ;-)
73 de Toni



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Interesting spots on wspr , nothing showing at  gm4ism until round  22=
-50  gmt and then similar s/n ratios 800 kmt on=20
power approx 100 watts carrier   to  35 ft top load vert   ...=20

G ..=20



      2009-09-02 22:58   G0NBD   0.503887   -22   0   IO83lk   10   SM=
6BHZ   JO57wq   1047   57 =20
       2009-09-02 22:50   G0NBD   0.503897   -21   0   IO83lk   10  =
 GM4ISM   IO85ar   262   347 =20
       2009-09-02 22:50   G0NBD   0.503923   -25   0   IO83lk   10  =
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Roger Lapthorn wrote:
> Well, easy for some (I can see) but NOT for me. What am I doing wrong?
> 


Roger,

Unfortunately I don't think I can help, as I'm a total novice at WOLF, 
so can't really come up with any quick fixes!

All I did was set the centre frequency to match the USB tuning offset - 
tune low 1kHz to 502.5 and set centre frequency to 1000Hz.

I think pretty much everything else standard.

Looking at my version I see that under "Mode"... I have "Receive Only" 
ticked, "WOLF 10[symbols/sec] " ---> "Normal Speed" ticked.

That's all I've done initially and it worked. Lawrence in China 
suggested I try to calibrate my soundcard, so I followed his suggestion.

I know, as has been discussed before, that WSPR is often touchy about 
soundcard sampling rates and string signals.

Don't know if WOLF is the same.

But at least can adjust for this in the software with WOLF though.

Tune to 197kHz in USB mode. THe Radio 4 carrier should be at 1kHz. If 
you've chosen a 1kHz centre frequency, on the WOLF Config tab there's a 
button marked "Cal" in the receive options area. Press it. It will work 
out a correction factor for your soundcard. I think you're then asked to 
accept the value offerred... do this and then start again. See if this 
fixes things.

As Dave YMC rightly comments - this might be one to try and then forget, 
although it seems (of setup correctly) to be quite sensitive.

Cheers,

John
GM4SLV





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Have my Rx on 500kHz (dial 502.4) immediately got copy of G7NKS, will 
leave it running for a while and uploading spots to the database

Tim M0AFJ
IO92OB, Milton Keynes


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Dave Sergeant wrote:

> One point is that with the K2 you cannot set a narrow filter at 1.5kHz 
> (a limitation of the tuning range of its IF BFO). I am sure if you used 
> such a narrow receive filter the results would be spectacularly better, 
> but I am stuck with the SSB filter.

Dave, LF

I'm not sure this would really be a big improvement.

I guess the only benefit one would gain is if there was a strong signal 
within the receiver's SSB passband, but outside the WSPR 200Hz region, 
that was upsetting the receiver's AGC.

If this isn't the case then the DSP filtering of WSPR itself should 
suffice. After all WSPR is capable of discriminating between adjacent 
WSPR transmissions <10Hz apart.

I wouldn't worry about the lack of a narrow IF filter in most 
circumstances, especially on 500kHz. 40m might be another story!

John

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Hello Piotr, LF

Please also remember to formally ask your telecom authorities to support=
 the
WRC-2012 (was WRC-2011) agenda item 1.23. This is very important for every
national amateur radio organisation to do. Way too many have not done so=
 yet
and this is about the long term future of amateur radio on MF. You must ac=
t
soon because the preparations for WRC-2012 are already in progress and the
input is needed NOW.

WRC-2011 agenda item 1.23: "to consider an allocation of about 15 kHz in=
 parts
of the band 415-526.5 kHz to the amateur service on a secondary basis, tak=
ing
into account the need to protect existing services."

73

Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ






Quoting Piotr M=C5=82ynarski <sq7mpj@toya.net.pl>:

> Dear LF group,
> The present discussion  about  uk/us 500 kHz bandplan  has triggered  a
> question which i  was going to  put here, on this reflector ,
> for some time.  In Poland, we still lack this MF band allocation to
> radioamateurs.  There is a small group of hams interested  in  having an
> access to this band..
> Some time ago i was asked  by one of our  PZK ( Polish Radioamateur
> Union)  officials to prepare a  sort of a  preliminary note about this
> issue
> I plan to write such a  note ( along with Marcin, sq2bxi and others)
> Athough this lf_reflector is uk based we all know that it has a
> world-wide character including stations from G,W,F,DL,S,OK,ON,EI,PA,I
> ,OE,HB,VE
> ( i am sorry if  any other country prefix has been ommited) . Therefore
> , my ask is the following:
> please , write  here  , on this reflector,   the 500 khz band
> allocation in particular countries  i.e.  band limits as well as   EIRP
> power,special permits. etc...
> Obviously,  with such an information provided  the   "power" of  such a
> note will be greatly increased.
>
>
> 73 de Piotr, sq7mpj
> qth: Lodz /jo91rs/
>
>




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Hi Jim

Got you at -6dB and that's on my 500 antenna system with no adjustment for
137.  Clearly audible and nice trace on waterfall.

With best regards
 
 
Jim
 
 
Dr. James Cowburn

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Dear LF Group,

The M0BMU WSPR beacon is now running on 135.5kHz "dial frequency", 137.0kHz 
RF out. Note change of frequency to try to avoid DCF39/HGA22 sidebands, 
which some stations experience problems with. Any reports over the next few 
hours would be very welcome.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU 




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Dear Jim,

Thank you for your comments.
I will try the circuit as in your description.

Best regards,

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Hello John and all ,

Good copy of your beacon last night !

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Henny,
   Thanks for the capture!
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2009/9/21 henny van elst <cpm@planet.nl>:
> Hi Warren,LF
> Capture XGJ
> Henny pa3cpm
> 73s
> Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden
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> XGJ 21-09.jpg
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Hi Roger

 

Invariably your signals improve at my end as the night progresses and dawn
breaks.   I'm on my new autotransformer tonight.  miniVNA says SWR = 1.2 and
Xs is low but phase angle still in 20s, and Tx only putting out 30w into
load.  According to VNA I need an extra 1.2uH to bring to full resonance so
will be winding an extra coil tomorrow or Sunday.

 

Jim M is booming in now.

 

I'm looking for the 1000kn mark next and then next step is over the pond and
5000km +

 

 

 

With best regards

 

 

Jim

 

 

Dr. James Cowburn

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From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Roger Lapthorn
Sent: 18 September 2009 20:25
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: RE: G3XBM's 500kHz QRPp WSPR beacon running again

 

Thanks Dave.

Please keep listening and looking overnight. I do appreciate your effort.
Should be easier in a few weeks when I get a chance to improve things.

73s
Roger G3XBM

2009/9/18 Dave G3WCB <ganymede444@btopenworld.com>

Hi, Roger.

 

Nothing heard to date, but I'll be listening overnight. Only Jim so far.

 

1746 -11  0.6   0.503945 -1 G7NKS IO92 27
1758 -10  0.8   0.503943  0 G7NKS IO92 27
1810 -11  0.4   0.503942  0 G7NKS IO92 27
1822 -12  0.7   0.503942 -1 G7NKS IO92 27
1834 -13  0.6   0.503942  0 G7NKS IO92 27
1842 -13  0.9   0.503951  1 G7NKS IO92 27
1850 -13  0.5   0.503956  0 G7NKS IO92 27
1858 -19  1.0   0.503960  0 G7NKS IO92 27
1906 -20  0.6   0.503965  0 G7NKS IO92 27

 

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Roger Lapthorn
Sent: 18 September 2009 16:42
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: G3XBM's 500kHz QRPp WSPR beacon running again

My 500kHz beacon has just been turned back on again. Any reports or
screenshots would be appreciated.  It would be lovely to have some reports
from a few new stations too and I'd just love to get >100kms with the
current QRP set-up.

73s
Roger
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Invariably your=
 signals improve at my end
as the night progresses and dawn breaks.&nbsp;&nbsp; I&#8217;m on my=
 new autotransformer
tonight.&nbsp; miniVNA says SWR =3D 1.2 and Xs is low but phase angle=
 still in 20s,
and Tx only putting out 30w into load.&nbsp; According to VNA I need=
 an extra 1.2uH
to bring to full resonance so will be winding an extra coil tomorrow=
 or Sunday.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Jim M is boomin=
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yle=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I&#8217;m looki=
ng for the 1000kn mark next
and then next step is over the pond and 5000km +<o:p></o:p></span></fo=
nt></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'fo=
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t></b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;fon=
t-family:Tahoma'> owner-<st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blac=
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weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Roger Lapthorn<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 18 September 2009=
 20:25<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:s=
t=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: LF: RE: G3=
XBM's
500kHz QRPp WSPR beacon running again</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3D3 fac=
e=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Thanks Dave.<br=
>
<br>
Please keep listening and looking overnight. I do appreciate your effo=
rt.
Should be easier in a few weeks when I get a chance to improve things.=
<br>
<br>
73s<br>
Roger G3XBM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'>2009/9/18 Dave G3WCB &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ga=
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:p></span></font></p>

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yle=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Nothing heard=
 to date, but I'll be
listening overnight. Only Jim so far.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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yle=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>1746 -11&nbsp;=
 0.6&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503945 -1
G7NKS IO92 27<br>
1758 -10&nbsp; 0.8&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503943&nbsp; 0 G7NKS IO92 27<br>
1810 -11&nbsp; 0.4&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503942&nbsp; 0 G7NKS IO92 27<br>
1822 -12&nbsp; 0.7&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503942 -1 G7NKS IO92 27<br>
1834 -13&nbsp; 0.6&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503942&nbsp; 0 G7NKS IO92 27<br>
1842 -13&nbsp; 0.9&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503951&nbsp; 1 G7NKS IO92 27<br>
1850 -13&nbsp; 0.5&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503956&nbsp; 0 G7NKS IO92 27<br>
1858 -19&nbsp; 1.0&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503960&nbsp; 0 G7NKS IO92 27<br>
1906 -20&nbsp; 0.6&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503965&nbsp; 0 G7NKS IO92 27</span></=
font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>73, Dave G3WCB=
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<blockquote style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3D2 fac=
e=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Or=
iginal Message-----<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> <a href=3D"mailto=
:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" target=3D"_blank">owner-rsgb_lf_g=
roup@blacksheep.org</a>
[mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" target=
=3D"_blank">owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a>]<b><span style=3D'f=
ont-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Roger Lapthorn<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 18 September 2009=
 16:42<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <a href=3D"mailto:r=
sgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" target=3D"_blank">rsgb_lf_group@blackshee=
p.org</a><br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> LF: G3XBM's 50=
0kHz QRPp
WSPR beacon running again</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'>My 500kHz beacon has just been turned back on=
 again. Any reports or
screenshots would be appreciated.&nbsp; It would be lovely to have som=
e reports
from a few new stations too and I'd just love to get &gt;100kms with=
 the
current QRP set-up.<br>
<br>
73s<br>
Roger<br>
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<a href=3D"http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://g3=
xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.g3xbm.co.uk" target=3D"_blank">http://www.g3xbm.=
co.uk</a><br>
G3XBM &nbsp; &nbsp;GQRP 1678 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;ISWL G11088<o:p></o:p=
></span></font></p>

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Hi LF!

Looking SM6BHZ WSPR -19 now.

Somebody interesting to make an x-band 503 kHz/40 or 80m today?

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Hi Warren - sun up here 2158 thru 1000z  - short co darkness period to you=
 at 1000-1100z appx =3D gets better as get towards Dec

=20

Laurence

in BY3A
=20
> Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 07:56:09 -0400
> From: wd2xgj@gmail.com
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: Re: LF: Long Haul 137
>=20
> Laurence,
>=20
> What are the times for your local sunrise/sunset in UTC?
> --=20
> 73 Warren K2ORS
> WD2XGJ
> WD2XSH/23
> WE2XEB/2
> WE2XGR/1
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 1:34 AM, Laurence BY3A-KL1X China
> <hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Chaps and Chappesses. The long haul conditions towards Eu, and for=
 that
> > matter probably elsewhere are pretty good at the moment - DCF39 was po=
unding
> > in way over S9 last night here on the Eastern coastal region of China,=
 and
> > s/n noise, in a box or otherwise, were getting better and it wasnt hur=
ting
> > my ears any more. Always a good sign. Mid range NDB's at around 1500Km=
s on
> > the otherhand were down a bit.
> >
> > If anyone wants to shove any mode up the spout on 137 or 500 my way Id=
 be
> > delighted to turn the knobs as long as you send an email before lights=
 out
> > here at around 1330z.
> >
> > Its interesting to look at the 500 captures of Gus and see how short=
 the
> > opening is at the moment - akin to the ol' gray/grey oblique iono tilt=
s.
> > looking at the data the typical fades/peaks are around 1 minute, so lo=
nger
> > than I thought, but very deep, but I bet they change when the iono kic=
ks up.
> > Slightly short a time for WOLF but Im betting it still overall a bette=
r mode
> > for long (long) haul than results have shown so far with WSPR.
> >
> > Laurence, SWLing in  OM89UA Tanggu China.
> >
> > ________________________________
> > Lauren found her dream laptop. Find the PC that=92s right for you.
>=20
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Hi&nbsp;Warren&nbsp;- sun up here&nbsp;2158 thru 1000z&nbsp; - short co da=
rkness period to you at 1000-1100z appx =3D gets better as&nbsp;get toward=
s&nbsp;Dec<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Laurence<BR>
in BY3A<BR>&nbsp;<BR>&gt; Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 07:56:09 -0400<BR>&gt; Fr=
om: wd2xgj@gmail.com<BR>&gt; To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR>&gt; Subj=
ect: Re: LF: Long Haul 137<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Laurence,<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Wha=
t are the times for your local sunrise/sunset in UTC?<BR>&gt; -- <BR>&gt;=
 73 Warren K2ORS<BR>&gt; WD2XGJ<BR>&gt; WD2XSH/23<BR>&gt; WE2XEB/2<BR>&gt;=
 WE2XGR/1<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; On Fri, Sep=
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ero@hotmail.com&gt; wrote:<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; Hi Chaps and Chappess=
es. The long haul conditions towards Eu, and for that<BR>&gt; &gt; matter=
 probably elsewhere are pretty good at the moment - DCF39 was pounding<BR>=
&gt; &gt; in way over S9 last night here on the Eastern coastal region of=
 China, and<BR>&gt; &gt; s/n noise, in a box or otherwise, were getting be=
tter and it wasnt hurting<BR>&gt; &gt; my ears any more. Always a good sig=
n. Mid range NDB's at around 1500Kms on<BR>&gt; &gt; the otherhand were do=
wn a bit.<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; If anyone wants to shove any mode up=
 the spout on 137 or 500 my way Id be<BR>&gt; &gt; delighted to turn the=
 knobs as long as you send an email before lights out<BR>&gt; &gt; here at=
 around 1330z.<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; Its interesting to look at the 50=
0 captures of Gus and see how short the<BR>&gt; &gt; opening is at the mom=
ent - akin to the ol' gray/grey oblique iono tilts.<BR>&gt; &gt; looking=
 at the data the typical&nbsp;fades/peaks are around 1 minute, so longer<B=
R>&gt; &gt; than I thought, but very deep, but I bet they change when the=
 iono kicks up.<BR>&gt; &gt; Slightly short a time for WOLF but Im betting=
 it still overall a better mode<BR>&gt; &gt; for long (long) haul than res=
ults have shown so far with WSPR.<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; Laurence, SWLi=
ng in &nbsp;OM89UA Tanggu China.<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; _______________=
_________________<BR>&gt; &gt; Lauren found her dream laptop. Find the PC=
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Roman ,

Roman RW3ADB a =C3=A9crit :
> Hi jean-Pierre!
>
> You are oriented right, I'm looked!
> There is no TX stations from russia today.
> Andrey RN3AGC started his grabber and no TX, Anatoly UA4WPF TX'd 1=20
> cycle around 2230mscLT and finished.
> I'm onto 503 kHz now, looking WSPR beacons.
> If I looked info from WPF next time I'm let you know!
Thank you  for this info
>
> 73!
> Roman
Good night , 73 Jean-Pierre

PS : i switch antenna in USA direction now .
>
>
> * "\"Jean-Pierre M=C3=A9r=C3=A9 (F1AFJ)\"" <jpm.f1afj@online.fr> [Sun,=
 06 Sep=20
> 2009 22:49:40 +0200]:
>> Roman ,
>> My grabber is ON ,
>> antenna at QTF 60=C2=B0 for 2 hours ,
>> after i swich in USA direction !
>> 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj
>>
>> Roman RW3ADB a =C3=A9crit :
>> > Hi Jean-Pierre & LF agn!
>> > Yep, condx are very good!
>> > I was surprised last night!
>> > I'm put the screenshots from all night into QRSS-90 mode and half of
>> > night in QRSS-120 onto my report 136-page:
>> > http://qrss.nm.ru/136.html
>> >
>> > 73!
>> > Roman
>> >
>> > * "\"Jean-Pierre M=C3=A9r=C3=A9 (F1AFJ)\"" <jpm.f1afj@online.fr> [Sun=
, 06 Sep
>> > 2009 19:42:47 +0200]:
>> >> Hi  Roman ,
>> >> Tnx , good conditions !
>> >> 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj
>> >>
>> >> Roman RW3ADB a =C3=A9crit :
>> >> > Hello Jean-Pierre & LF!
>> >> > It was an UA4WPF beacon.He was visible very good during the last
>> > night
>> >> > into my grabber in Moscow.
>> >> > http://rw3adb.narod.ru/2009/5sep2009_UA4WPF/137.07W_90_00009.jpg
>> >> > http://rw3adb.narod.ru/2009/5sep2009_UA4WPF/137.07W_120_00002.jpg
>> >> > Was traced onto your grabber and DF6NM too.
>> >> >
>> >> > * "\"Jean-Pierre M=C3=A9r=C3=A9 (F1AFJ)\"" <jpm.f1afj@online.fr>=
 [Sun, 06=20
> Sep
>> >> > 2009 13:59:27 +0200]:
>> >> >> Ok Andrey , Tnx for info
>> >> >>
>> >> >> 73 Jean-Pierre
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Andrey rn3agc a =C3=A9crit :
>> >> >> > Hi Jean-Pierre,
>> >> >> > It, probably, was beacon UA4WPF.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > 73
>> >> >> > Andrey
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> Hello LF ,
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> My antenna was in directection of the USA , I raised of the
>> > traces
>> >> > on
>> >> >> >> 137777. 2 , I suppose that it is ACG in beaconning !
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > Roman RW3ADB.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Roman RW3ADB.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
>
>
> --=20
> Roman RW3ADB.
>
>
>

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Roman,

thank's report and info !

73 de Gus SM6BHZ


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> Hi Gus, LF!
> 1926 -24  1.2   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
> 1932 -26  1.1   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
> 1938 -27  1.1   0.503925  1 SM6BHZ JO57 30
> 1958 -16  1.1   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2014 -15  1.0   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2022 -15  0.9   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 
> Negative copy M0BMU today in my location. It' s a pity.
> 
> 
> --
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>




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No sign of any other stations last night. I'll be able to monitor again on
Wednesday evening.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM n Windsor S.E. England

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WSPR report of Gus's signal this evening.

Also looking for G3XBM, but static levels re very high tonight.

2255  -6  0.6   0.503526  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM n Windsor S.E. England

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My 500kHz WSPR beacon will be closing in a few minutes and back on overnight
tonight.

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> >>>I have learnt, WSPR sounds like a slightly rough CW and is transmitted
> in 
> >>>4min-blocks. <<<<<
> 
> Dennis , That may  not be wspr , wspr  tx time is  120 seconds locked to
> the 
> exact time , with the  start time on the  00-00
> by sound its like a very  slow narrow shift psk signal .....but it is only
> one  carrier  changing frequency  with  no breaks in the 120 second 
> transmission

Okay better to say: One cycle seemed to be 4min, divided into abt. 115sec TX and 125sec no TX, maybe RX? The beginning of the received transmissions were always well within half a second around even minute + zero seconds which to me seems to be the strongest hint that is really was some wspr what I was hearing. (DCF77-clock beside the speaker)

Since yesterday I'm looking for a notebook - to run wspr :)

vy73
Dennis
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We'll soon see if it works ok/better

I need to work on the transformer a bit and have had some more pointers from
Jim M so that's a project for tomorrow

See you on WSPR

With best regards
 
 
Jim
 
 
Dr. James Cowburn
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James Cowburn wrote:
> Dear LF
> 
>  
> 
> G7NKS is back on tonight with a new umbrella antenna under test.  
> 
>  
> 
> 10m vertical element with 4x8m capacity wires sloping down at 45degrees.
> Not ideal but a little better than the old "L".   

James,

This is much the same antenna as I've used on 500kHz. I started with 12m 
height, but Shetland weather saw to that.... I then used 8m, with 
sloping capacity wires of approx 6m, acting as guys (insulators at the 
lower ends ends and nylon rope for the last section to the guying points.)

I tuned it with a variety of fixed and tapped inductors and matched to 
50 ohms with a tapped ferrite transformer, all in a plastic bin at the 
feed point. A run of 50 ohm feeder back to the shack.

I've had reports and QSOs (in-band and cross-band) from at least the 
follwing: G/GW/GM/GI/EI/LA/SM/DL/OH/F/PA/ON and probably others. I've 
had QSOs with powers as low as 100mW TX power and up to 200W TX power.

My estimate of the ERP for 100W TX power is 4-500mW on a good day (very 
dependant on ground losses which affect the antenna current and hence 
the radiated power).

Hope you have success with it.

John
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Thanks for the tip John.
PA3CPM very strong signal here, F8BOJ also there but weaker than when=
 I last saw him. Another QRSS3 signal higher in frequency I missed who=
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Vy 73, G4AYT.

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>PA3CPM very strong signal here, F8BOJ=
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Hi LF,
Capture who?
henny pa3cpm
73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
UNID 12-09.jpg

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi LF,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Capture who?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>henny pa3cpm</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>73s</FONT></DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het volgende 
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>
> On 01/09/2009 at 20:17 mal hamilton wrote:
>
>>Roger I am stating the facts, someone else mentioned seeing the signals
>>on the waterfall but they were not decoding. I could easlily have made a
>>qso on cw given the strength of signals whereas WSPR was not decoding, so
>>the exercise is pointless.
>
> That was me.  I wasn't decoding because I don't yet have a decoder.  Had I 
> had one, and given the snr I observed, I would have expected 100% copy. 
> On the few occasions I have heard Mal, his snr has not been anything like 
> as good as WSPR.
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Dear LF Group,

The M0BMU WSPR beacon is now running on 135.5kHz "dial frequency", 137.0kHz 
RF out. Note change of frequency to try to avoid DCF39/HGA22 sidebands, 
which some stations experience problems with. Any reports over the next few 
hours would be very welcome.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU 



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I transported my RX SPM-30 to my portable QTH out of city. I would like to=
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:00UT on usual frequency 502.500 (DIAL) in WSPR mode.=20

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On 21/09/2009 at 18:23 mal hamilton wrote:

>WSPR is a minority interest ...=20

Since when we have had to follow the majority?  I remember when most phone=
 was on AM.  SSB users were very much in the minority and received comment=
s equivalent to those we get from Mal. =20

The same applied at one time to NBFM on VHF/UHF.  Anyway, in amateur radio=
 as a whole, CW operators are probably in the minority (puts hard hat on=
 and dives under the table).=20

>The majority of operators on 500 are CW OPERATORS and should not let the=
 TAIL WAG THE DOG.

But for those who are fortunate enough to have the band, there is room eno=
ugh for several modes on 500.  It is not intended to be "just another ham=
 band" but is for carrying out innovative investigations.  _You_ are not=
 obliged to use WSPR, but should not denigrate those who do. =20
=20
>160 metres ...  where the bandwidth approx 200 Kcs wide.

Not in France it isn't.  We have 1810 to 1850kHz on Topband.

John F5VLF




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On 11/09/2009 at 07:05 John P-G wrote:

>"your report is 59 please repeat your name and QTH"

You think you are joking!  A couple of years ago a G6+2 came back to me wi=
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My Dell Inspiron Laptop, when  11025Hz sampling rate is requested, actually
gives 10800Hz (near enough) which was enough to completely kill JT4
decoding.  (JT4 is a WSJT mode, not totally unlike WSPR in its coding/error
correction and use of four frequency FSK with 50% embedded sync, but with a
much wider frequency shift and 48 second Tx period with 4.375Hz symbol
interval).

The WSJT software itself measures and reports sampling rate errors and
allows the user to enter the values into the setup - quite why Joe never
made this an automatic procedure I wonder....

the 'JNT theory why it was so far out...
The old sampling rate of 11025 has factors of (3 * 3 * 5 * 5 * 7 * 7)
However 12000Hz has factors   5 * 5 * 5 * 3 * 2 * 2 * 2 * 2 * 2 * 2
So I'm guessing 10800 (factors of  5 * 5 * 3 * 3 * 3 * 2 * 2 * 2 * 2)
 is adopted as it has more in common with 12000 and keeps the firmware
simpler.

Frequency error of 2.08% which I'm sure a musician would detect

As WSPR is the first from the WSJT stable to use 12000 sampling, presumably
he saw no need to put the correction into the original WSPR software.


Andy
www.g4jnt.com
(working on modifying WSPR beacon software for the ancient AD9851 DDS, as I
have a couple spare now)

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2009/9/12 Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>

> Jim,
>
> Re the  size of error
>
> With the  delta-4 card, the  tx frame could be observed to  be  some  2 or
> more seconds short of the  expected time  window
>
> 1 % ~  1.2 seconds , 2 %  ~ 2.4  seconds, assumedly indicating the clock on
> the  card runs fast, but as to the  influence of the system by the software,
> dma, irq etc  Im not  sure, one problem is I expect is the soundcards are
> not  designed to be the  interface for  a accurate  frequency meter /
> generator and as such compromises 'must' exist ...
>
> The only  comparison I can think of is the running of a movie at  shot at
> 24 fps  for projection , on a tele cinie system at  25 fps to  sync with the
> uk 50 hz frame rate  , giving a lift in the sound  pitch of + ~ 4 % ? , I
> know that this dose generate  irate phone  calls from musicians pointing out
> that orchestras appear to  be   'sharp' but not many  hi .. so its possible
> a tolerance of  2 %  may be accepted
>
> G .
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "James Moritz" <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>
> Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 1:33 PM
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Subject: LF: Re: WOLF/WSPR Sound card issues
>
>
>
>> Dear Dave,
>>
>> AC 97
>> (http://download.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/sb/ac97_r23.pdf )
>> specifies 48kHz as the basic, obligatory sample rate for compliant sound
>> cards, so yours should certainly be able to do it - to find more info, you
>> could try looking for the audio codec chip on the motherboard - usually a
>> very tiny square 48pin thing near the audio connectors, and searching
>> using
>> its type number. But I guess what sample rate is actually used will depend
>> on software, drivers and so forth - perhaps someone with experience of PC
>> sound card programming could advise. Looking at the audio settings in the
>> Windows control panel may well tell you what sample rates are possible.
>> Also, some software allows you to select different sample rates, for
>> instance Spectrum Lab, but not Argo as far as I know.
>>
>> The errors you are getting in the measured frequency seem to be enormous -
>> 2
>> or 3%, which would certainly give rise to problems.
>>
>> Cheers, Jim Moritz
>> 73 de M0BMU
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Sergeant" <dave@davesergeant.com
>> >
>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 11:59 AM
>> Subject: LF: WOLF/WSPR Sound card issues
>>
>>
>> It seems that both WOLF and WSPR are
>>
>>> designed for current sound cards which have 48,000 and 96,000 clock
>>> rates. Mine is obviously from the old stable so has 44,100 etc rates.
>>>
>>> For information it is the sound card interface built into the
>>> motherboard, an ASR Rock K7S41GX dating from 2003 with generic AC'97
>>> sound. Zilch more given about its spec in the manual.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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<div>My Dell Inspiron Laptop, when=A0 11025Hz sampling rate is requested,=
 actually gives 10800Hz (near enough) which was enough to completely kill=
 JT4 decoding.=A0 (JT4 is a WSJT mode, not totally unlike WSPR in its codi=
ng/error correction=A0and use of four frequency FSK with 50% embedded sync=
, but with a much wider frequency shift and 48 second Tx period with 4.375=
Hz symbol interval).</div>

<div>=A0</div>
<div>The WSJT software itself measures and reports sampling rate errors an=
d allows the user to enter the values into the setup - quite why Joe never=
 made this an automatic procedure I wonder....</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>the &#39;JNT theory why it was so far out...</div>
<div>The old sampling rate of 11025=A0has factors of (3 * 3 * 5 * 5=A0* 7=
 * 7)</div>
<div>However 12000Hz has factors=A0=A0=A05 * 5 * 5 *=A03 * 2 * 2 * 2 * 2=
 * 2 * 2</div>
<div>So I&#39;m guessing 10800 (factors of=A0 5 * 5 * 3 * 3 * 3 * 2 * 2 *=
 2 * 2) =A0is=A0adopted as it has more in common with 12000 and keeps the=
 firmware simpler.</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>Frequency error of 2.08% which I&#39;m sure a musician would detect</=
div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>As WSPR is the first from the WSJT stable to use 12000 sampling, pres=
umably he saw no need to put the correction into the original WSPR softwar=
e.=A0=A0 </div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div><br clear=3D"all">Andy<br><a href=3D"http://www.g4jnt.com/">www.g4jnt=
.com</a><br></div>
<div>(working on modifying WSPR beacon software for the ancient AD9851 DDS=
, as I have a couple spare now)</div>
<div><br>this email has been scanned for political correctness by the nann=
y state<br><br><br></div>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/9/12 Graham <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk">g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk</a>&gt;</span>=
<br>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8e=
x; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">Jim,<br><br>Re the =A0size of=
 error<br><br>With the =A0delta-4 card, the =A0tx frame could be observed=
 to =A0be =A0some =A02 or more seconds short of the =A0expected time =A0wi=
ndow<br>
<br>1 % ~ =A01.2 seconds , 2 % =A0~ 2.4 =A0seconds, assumedly indicating=
 the clock on the =A0card runs fast, but as to the =A0influence of the sys=
tem by the software, dma, irq etc =A0Im not =A0sure, one problem is I expe=
ct is the soundcards are not =A0designed to be the =A0interface for =A0a=
 accurate =A0frequency meter / generator and as such compromises &#39;must=
&#39; exist ...<br>
<br>The only =A0comparison I can think of is the running of a movie at =A0=
shot at 24 fps =A0for projection , on a tele cinie system at =A025 fps to=
 =A0sync with the uk 50 hz frame rate =A0, giving a lift in the sound =A0p=
itch of + ~ 4 % ? , I know that this dose generate =A0irate phone =A0calls=
 from musicians pointing out that orchestras appear to =A0be =A0 &#39;shar=
p&#39; but not many =A0hi .. so its possible a tolerance of =A02 % =A0may=
 be accepted<br>
<br>G .<br><br>--------------------------------------------------<br>From:=
 &quot;James Moritz&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:james.moritz@btopenworld.c=
om" target=3D"_blank">james.moritz@btopenworld.com</a>&gt;<br>Sent: Saturd=
ay, September 12, 2009 1:33 PM=20
<div class=3D"im"><br>To: &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.o=
rg" target=3D"_blank">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a>&gt;<br></div>Subjec=
t: LF: Re: WOLF/WSPR Sound card issues=20
<div>
<div></div>
<div class=3D"h5"><br><br>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8e=
x; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote"><br>Dear Dave,<br><br>AC 97<br=
>(<a href=3D"http://download.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/sb/ac9=
7_r23.pdf" target=3D"_blank">http://download.intel.com/support/motherboard=
s/desktop/sb/ac97_r23.pdf</a> )<br>
specifies 48kHz as the basic, obligatory sample rate for compliant sound<b=
r>cards, so yours should certainly be able to do it - to find more info,=
 you<br>could try looking for the audio codec chip on the motherboard - us=
ually a<br>
very tiny square 48pin thing near the audio connectors, and searching usin=
g<br>its type number. But I guess what sample rate is actually used will=
 depend<br>on software, drivers and so forth - perhaps someone with experi=
ence of PC<br>
sound card programming could advise. Looking at the audio settings in the<=
br>Windows control panel may well tell you what sample rates are possible.=
<br>Also, some software allows you to select different sample rates, for<b=
r>
instance Spectrum Lab, but not Argo as far as I know.<br><br>The errors yo=
u are getting in the measured frequency seem to be enormous - 2<br>or 3%,=
 which would certainly give rise to problems.<br><br>Cheers, Jim Moritz<br=
>
73 de M0BMU<br><br>----- Original Message ----- From: &quot;Dave Sergeant&=
quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dave@davesergeant.com" target=3D"_blank">dave@=
davesergeant.com</a>&gt;<br>To: &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacks=
heep.org" target=3D"_blank">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a>&gt;<br>
Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 11:59 AM<br>Subject: LF: WOLF/WSPR Soun=
d card issues<br><br><br>It seems that both WOLF and WSPR are<br>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8e=
x; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">designed for current sound car=
ds which have 48,000 and 96,000 clock<br>rates. Mine is obviously from the=
 old stable so has 44,100 etc rates.<br>
<br>For information it is the sound card interface built into the<br>mothe=
rboard, an ASR Rock K7S41GX dating from 2003 with generic AC&#39;97<br>sou=
nd. Zilch more given about its spec in the manual.<br><br></blockquote><br=
>
<br><br></blockquote><br><br><br></div></div>
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John P-G wrote:

>
>
>
> Graham is often difficult here too though, and I think this is related 
> to a soundcard problem at his end. The fact that you're nearer will 
> probably just exacerbate the effect.
>
> In general however it does appear that the mode is very good on weak 
> signals and hit and miss on strong ones and one suspects that it's 
> very intolerant of errors in soundcard sample rate - which is masked 
> with weak signals to some extent.
>
> Cheers,
>
> John
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>
>
Hello LF Group,
just to add  more points to the ongoing disscussion  about wspr  
problem: to decode or not to decode ... :)
in  my view John, GM4SLV is right  when indicating that the  soundcard 
sample rate  may be responsible for not decoding at all or, in part, 
for  errors.
some time ago i've posted to this reflector  the following observation:
 the wspr is using bin size of  FFT  8192 and  transmits  162 data  bits 
at 12000 Hz  sampling rate so  the wspr transmission lasts  
162*8192/12000  = 110.59 seconds i.e  less  than  2 minutes.  if  the 
11025 sampling rate was used than we would  have 162*8192/11025 = 120.37 
seconds - just over 2 min.
most  of the soundcards have, say, master sapmling rate of 44.1 khz  
therefore when downconverting  this  rate  to the used sampling rate of 
12000 Hz 
some non-integer "offset" appears and how the drivers/chips deal with 
this issue is an open problem
let me now add  few other observations.. when i used wspr for the first 
time (  on HF bands) soon  i  got interested in  its performance  in the 
case of a strong signals so i have asked  another ham (  we live in the 
same city  abt 3 km frm each other)  to TX strong signal  - indeed it 
was red on the display and there was no problem
to properly decode his transmission. in the next 'experiment' i asked 
him to do the same but at the same time i was trying to decode the 
signal from  distant transmitting stations ( i do not remember  exactly 
but i think it was a 7 Mhz band )  again,  i was properly decoding  weak 
stations in a presence of a "red" strip on the waterfall. In some way  , 
the last  issue was also confirmed yesterday when i successfuly decoded  
Jim , M0BMU and Gus, SM6BHZ: (frm MEPT.txt file)
in the same time slot:
090903 2242  22  -9  0.6   0.503956  SM6BHZ JO57 30          0     1    0
090903 2242  12 -19  0.4   0.503981  M0BMU IO91 33           0     1    0
Ok, it is only 10db difference but sure it is possible .
It seems that Jim, M0BMU  has made a point  when  indicating the 
narrow-band  qrm's.  if it is close to the 'signal' there is a false 
decode or no decode at all.
here i have terrible and floating  qrm  on 500 kHz when it gets closer  
to the signal wspr fails.
As for the PC clock synchronization..- again,  i have looked into 
all_mept file and i can see that DT can be as much as  3sec and still 
yield a positive decode
090328 2244  12 -18  3.4   0.505094  DI2AG JN59 27           0   232    
0           (DT=3.4sec)
 
                                                                           
yours, peter, sq7mpj
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Dear LF

 

G7NKS is back on tonight with a new umbrella antenna under test.  

 

10m vertical element with 4x8m capacity wires sloping down at 45degrees.
Not ideal but a little better than the old "L".   

 

According to the VNA the Xs is down to 4 and the SWR at the base before
transformer went from 2.5 to 1.8.

 

Back at the shack the SWR was 2 and after the transformer it was 1.5 with Xs
still at 15

 

Power output hasn't changed much though so we'll see if its any more
efficient

 

Thanks for any reports

 

 

 

With best regards

 

 

Jim

 

 

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-s=
ize:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>Dear LF<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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ize:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>G7NKS is back on tonight with a new umb=
rella antenna under
test. &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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ize:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

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ize:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>10m vertical element with 4x8m capacity=
 wires sloping down
at 45degrees. &nbsp;Not ideal but a little better than the old &#8220;=
L&#8221;. &nbsp;&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-s=
ize:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>According to the VNA the Xs is down to=
 4 and the SWR at the
base before transformer went from 2.5 to 1.8.<o:p></o:p></span></font>=
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ize:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-s=
ize:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>Back at the shack the SWR was 2 and aft=
er the transformer it
was 1.5 with Xs still at 15<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-s=
ize:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>Power output hasn&#8217;t changed much=
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HI Roman and LF 
many thanks for your mail
and the grabber in russia good evenind
F8boj Claude 
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> 
> HI, Claude!
> RN3AGC Andrey ask you trying to TX on 137777 up to 2-3 hours later.
> Trying to see you in Moscow.
> The grabbers started ON:
> http://www.rn3agc.msk.ru/grabber1.shtml
> http://qrss.nm.ru/grabber.html
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Hi LF,
Capture 505khz
Henny pa3cpm
73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
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Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld.

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Roger,

do you confirm 503.830 kHz?

Marco IK1ODO


At 21.46 15/09/2009, you wrote:
>My 500kHz WSPR beacon is now back on again and will run overnight tonight.
>
>All reports appreciated. I'd also appreciate some screenshots please.
>
>Tomorrow I will try to do a small improvement to the ground system 
>that might be worth a couple of dBs.
>
>73s
>Roger




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Hello Jean-Pierre & LF!
It was an UA4WPF beacon.He was visible very good during the last night 
into my grabber in Moscow.
http://rw3adb.narod.ru/2009/5sep2009_UA4WPF/137.07W_90_00009.jpg
http://rw3adb.narod.ru/2009/5sep2009_UA4WPF/137.07W_120_00002.jpg
Was traced onto your grabber and DF6NM too.

* "\"Jean-Pierre MĂŠrĂŠ (F1AFJ)\"" <jpm.f1afj@online.fr> [Sun, 06 Sep 2009 
13:59:27 +0200]:
> Ok Andrey , Tnx for info
>
> 73 Jean-Pierre
>
> Andrey rn3agc a ĂŠcrit :
> > Hi Jean-Pierre,
> > It, probably, was beacon UA4WPF.
> >
> > 73
> > Andrey
> >
> >
> >> Hello LF ,
> >>
> >> My antenna was in directection of the USA , I raised of the traces 
on
> >> 137777. 2 , I suppose that it is ACG in beaconning !
> >>
> >> 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>




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Hi Graham!

* Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> [Fri, 18 Sep 2009 00:14:09 +0100]:
> Roman
>
> Details from the  web page  :-
>
> Location : IO90IV
> Carrier frequency : 503.700 KHz
> 100W RF Out (peak / carrier)
> 7m high Tee antenna with 14m top span.
> Gain estimate -27dB - based on Rrad / Rload measurements
>
>
> >>>>ERP 23dBm.<<<<<

TNX for info!
Will be trying to copy it signal.


> 73 - Graham
>
> No idea ... but  may  be  right  hihi
> uk500khz group page  using google  translate
>
> 
http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fgroup%2Fuk500khz%2Fweb%2Fmulti-function-beacon-by-andy-g4jnt&sl=en&tl=ru&history_state0=

TNX!
Looknig original, more good the curve translate))

Roman

> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Roman RW3ADB" <rw3adb@rambler.ru>
> Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 11:47 PM
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Subject: Re: LF: signal
>
> >
> > Hi Gary, LF!
> > TNX!
> > Hope to look that signal now.
> > How many EIRP?
> >
> > Roman
> >
> >
> > * Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk> [Tue, 15 Sep 2009 10:22:58
> +0100]:
> >> Hi Roman, LF,
> >>
> >> The signal on 503.700 kHz you can see on my grabber is the
> propagation
> >> beacon being run by Andy G4JNT, transmissions are at15 minute
> >> intervals at 0004, 0019, 0034 & 0049 minutes of each hour. The 
beacon
> >> now runs 24/7.
> >>
> >> It has a similar function & features to the beacons running on the
> >> 5MHz band (GB3RAL, GB3WES & GB3ORK).
> >>
> >> For a full description of the beacon on 503.700 kHz please have a
> look
> >> at the UK500KHZ group web site at :-
> >>
> >>
> >
> 
http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/multi-function-beacon-by-andy-g4jnt
> >>
> >> Regards es 73
> >>
> >> Gary - G4WGT.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 2009/9/15 Roman RW3ADB <rw3adb@rambler.ru>:
> >> >
> >> > Hi Gary, LF!
> >> >
> >> > Tell me pse, what is a signal I can see some time into G4WGT
> > grabber?
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Roman RW3ADB.
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Roman RW3ADB.
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Hello LFers,

On a recent trip to Newfoundland my wife and I had the pleasure
of meeting Joe, VO1NA, for an eyeball QSO and chat about our
LF activities.  Attached is a shot of Joe sitting on the base of his
LowFER antenna...now we know why his signal is seen across
the pond!!  Seriously, it's a pix of a new installation at a coast
guard antenna farm nearby.

After the tour of a few antenna sites we went to Joe's QTH for a
look at his antennas and station.  We met his wife and daughter
and where treated to a lovely roast turkey dinner.  The visit was
a highlight of our trip and shows how ham radio can open doors
that might otherwise be missed.  Thanks Joe!!

73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
Solar and wind powered
Lowfer " EAR"  188.830
EN93dr

http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle


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WSPR signals last evening copied from G4JNT, G4WGT, G7NKS and SM6BHZ=
 on 500kHz. Also very strong signal during the day from M0BMU on 137kH=
z.
My report of your DFCW signal on 137 the other day, Jim, had the wrong=
 frequency - sorry about that, added the difference 20Hz rather than=
 subtracted from my RX offset - should have been 137.68 of course.
Tend to agree with Mal's comments, I am having difficulty in seeing th=
e point of some of this when there is little in the way of exchanged=
 information between stations. There is a place for beacons, certainly=
. What concerns me is that the casual listener tuning across the band=
 probably has no idea there's anybody on.
Vy 73,
Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent, JO01MI.

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Hi folks,

My WSPR beacon is closing shortly. Thanks for reports this morning from
M0BMU, and from G3XVL and G6ALB yesterday. No others as yet.

Later today, and before my holiday away, I hope to try a couple of quick and
simple changes to the antenna and ground that may result in a slightly
greater antenna current. All being well, the beacon will be on again later
this afternoon and overnight tonight. Any reports would be greatly
appreciated so I can compare performance.

Further improvements will have to then wait until October.

73s
Roger G3XBM
-------------------------------------------------------------
http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/
http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
G3XBM    GQRP 1678      ISWL G11088

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Hi folks,<br><br>My WSPR beacon is closing shortly. Thanks for reports thi=
s morning from M0BMU, and from G3XVL and G6ALB yesterday. No others as yet=
.<br><br>Later today, and before my holiday away, I hope to try a couple=
 of quick and simple changes to the antenna and ground that may result in=
 a slightly greater antenna current. All being well, the beacon will be on=
 again later this afternoon and overnight tonight. Any reports would be gr=
eatly appreciated so I can compare performance.<br>
<br>Further improvements will have to then wait until October.<br><br>73s<=
br>Roger G3XBM<br>--------------------------------------------------------=
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James,

The classical method is to use audio isolation transformers between the 
rig audio in/out and the soundcard, and opto-isolators on the serial 
port line(s) used  for the PTT switching (assuming you use serial port 
handshaking lines for this) so that there's no DC connection between 
radio "earth" and PC "earth".

I've got the audio transformers in my homemade interface, but no 
opto-isolators - so there's still some connection between radio and PCs 
(and I mean 3 radios and 2 PCs....) but still have no mains hum evident. 
Perhaps I'm just lucky?

Ferrites are good to keep RF out of places it's not wanted, but not sure 
what they'd do to keep 50Hz out.

John


James Cowburn wrote:
> Ferrite, Ferrite and more Ferrite then!
> 
> Any suggestions as to where best to place clip on cores?  
> 
> Mains lead? 
> Power lead from PSU (Icom PS55) to rig (IC735)?
> All leads from ZLP interface to laptop? (Dell D610) (I currently have
> ferrite clip ons on the microphone and speaker leads from ZLP to laptop)
> Dell Laptop PSU?
> 
> All the above??
> 
> With best regards
>  
>  
> Jim
>  
>  
> Dr. James Cowburn
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham
> Sent: 16 September 2009 21:59
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> 
> JIm,
> 
> I think you  find that is  caused by 50 hz mains hum .... may be a hum loop 
> in the  audio system / pc-tx earthling , not likely to  be psu problem as 
> frequency is 50 (fund)  and 150 ( 3 rd harm)
> 
> I had a similar problem with my  valve HF set , that was a slight  ripple on
> 
> the PA  HT line caused by the  100% duty cycle of wspr, not part of the 
> design criteria for  ssb/cw , caused  spots to appear +/-  100  Hz due to 
> the  full wave  rectification in the  psu
> 
> G .
> 
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "James Moritz" <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 9:40 PM
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> 
>> Dear Jim, LF Group,
>>
>>
>>> Me too.  I am getting 3 traces (!) from Jim M (he is 9+10 and audible!)
>>> and
>>> a biggish one from Gus too
>> I am seeing low-level (about -25dB) sidebands on your signal  at +/-50Hz 
>> and
>> +/-150Hz, which are giving rise to the extra spots.  I think something
>> similar is happening when you receive my signal. I am not getting similar
>> multiple spots from other nearby stations, nor am I seeing the same
>> sidebands on other strong signals, so I think they must originate in your
>> station somewhere - possibly audio being affected by mains noise, or some
>> sort of residual FM of an oscillator in your rig?
>>
>> Cheers, Jim Moritz
>> 73 de M0BMU
>>
>>
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Roger Lapthorn wrote:
> If you could SEE my TX,  "antenna" and ATU you would realise how amazed I am
> at this report from G3XVL. My antenna is literally 15m of low horizontal
> wire with about 2m of it vertical, a central heating ground and an ATU on
> the bedroom table made from a ferrite rod and fed with 700mW from a
> 2N3906/2N3904. This proves that 500kHz is possible with a
> *really*minimalist station. I can only imagine what will be possible
> with some
> effort on my part.


Roger!

Well done - it just shows what can be done with RF and a piece of wire....

Assuming your ERP to be around the ~mW level we might be in with a 
chance even up to Shetland, given some suitable conditions.

I've been doing some tests on 5MHz recently and have been receiving 
stations using TX powers in the milliwat, and sub-milliwatt, range.

I've received G4ZFQ using TX power of 0.3mW at a range of 1061km.

Obviously it's not fair to directly compare 5MHz and 500kHz - at least 
it shows what can be done with really low ERP.

Please leave the WSPR running overnight and let's see what turns up in 
the wee small hours.

Cheers,

John
GM4SLV




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On 16 Sep 2009 at 8:48, James Cowburn wrote:

> Dear LF
> 
> The past two days have been quite bad for signals I have noticed. 
> Normally I get lots of decodes from many stations and now I am only
> getting Gus. Also there is a lot of noise on the waterfall trace too.
> 
> Still hoping to catch Roger
> 
> With best regards
> 
> 
> Jim

Well the last two nights yourself and Gus have been the only two 
stations active apart from Roger. Last night you were a consistent
-17dB - for a while Gus was transmitting 100% and I was decoding you 
100% even though you were only 10Hz away. I also have high static QRN 
from mid evening onwards, but it didn't seem to affect copy - the one 
time when it seemed to have stopped I had accidentally managed to get 
WSPR7 into 'freeze' mode. And Roger, if you are only getting Jim at
 -30dB I guess there is some work to do on that antenna...

192200   4  -6  3.5    48  0  SM6BHZ JO57 30        
192400   9 -21  3.5    26  0  SM6BHZ JO57 30        
192600   8 -17  3.5    26  0  SM6BHZ JO57 30        
192800   8 -10  3.4    26  0  SM6BHZ JO57 30        
192800   9 -13  4.3    38 -1  G7NKS IO92 23         
193000   5 -11  3.4    27  0  SM6BHZ JO57 30        
193200   9 -12  3.5    26  0  SM6BHZ JO57 30        
194400   8   0  3.6    26  0  SM6BHZ JO57 30        
194600   8   0  3.6    27  0  SM6BHZ JO57 30        
194600   7 -17  4.2    42  0  G7NKS IO92 23         
195000  10  -1  3.6    27  1  SM6BHZ JO57 30        
200000  11   3  3.7    27  0  SM6BHZ JO57 30        
200600  11  -1  3.6    27  0  SM6BHZ JO57 30        
200600   7 -17  4.2    46 -1  G7NKS IO92 23         
201200   9  -8  3.4    25  0  SM6BHZ JO57 30        
201400   9  -5  3.4    26  0  SM6BHZ JO57 30        
201400   8 -17  3.7    40 -1  G7NKS IO92 23         
201600   8  -1  3.4    25  0  SM6BHZ JO57 30        
201800   8  -7  3.5    25  0  SM6BHZ JO57 30        
202000  14  -5  3.4    25  0  SM6BHZ JO57 30        

73 Dave G3YMC

http://www.davesergeant.com



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Roger,
I can beat that your reception report from Ipswich, Suffolk

2009-09-13 20:12  G3XBM  0.503922  -27  1  JO02dg  0.001  G3XVL  JO02nb  61
 112 well done,
Chris G3XVL



2009/9/13 Roger Lapthorn <rogerlapthorn@gmail.com>

> All of 3kms away (whoa DX!!) but I just got my first WSPR report on 500kHz:
>
>  2009-09-13 20:04  G3XBM   0.503908  -6  0  JO02dg  0.001   G6ALB  JO02dg
>  0  0   2009-09-13 20:02  G3XBM  0.503910  -12   -1  JO02dg  0.001  G6ALB
>  JO02dg  0  0
> At least the signal is getting across the fields at the back of the house.
> Andrew G6ALB is in the next village. You can see by my report that I have a
> LOT of work to do....
>
> 73s
> Roger G3XBM
> --
> -------------------------------------------------------------
> http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/
> http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
> G3XBM    GQRP 1678      ISWL G11088
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Roger,<br>I can beat that your reception report from Ipswich, Suffolk<br><=
br><table><tbody><tr><td align=3D"right">2009-09-13 20:12=A0</td><td align=
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<td align=3D"right">=A01=A0</td><td align=3D"left">=A0JO02dg=A0</td><td al=
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=3D"left">=A0JO02nb=A0</td><td align=3D"right">=A061=A0</td><td align=3D"r=
ight">=A0112=A0</td></tr></tbody></table>
well done,<br>Chris G3XVL<br><br><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/9=
/13 Roger Lapthorn <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rogerlapthorn@g=
mail.com">rogerlapthorn@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class=3D"g=
mail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0p=
t 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
All of 3kms away (whoa DX!!) but I just got my first WSPR report on 500kHz=
:<br><br><table><tbody><tr><td align=3D"right"><font size=3D"2">=A02009-09=
-13 20:04=A0</font></td><td align=3D"left"><font size=3D"2">=A0G3XBM=A0</f=
ont></td><td align=3D"right">

<font size=3D"2">=A00.503908=A0</font></td><td align=3D"right"><font size=
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<td align=3D"left"><font size=3D"2">=A0G6ALB=A0</font></td><td align=3D"le=
ft"><font size=3D"2">=A0JO02dg=A0</font></td><td align=3D"right"><font siz=
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ont></td></tr>
<tr><td align=3D"right"><font size=3D"2">=A02009-09-13 20:02=A0</font></td=
><td align=3D"left"><font size=3D"2">=A0G3XBM=A0</font></td><td align=3D"r=
ight"><font size=3D"2">=A00.503910=A0</font></td><td align=3D"right"><font=
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<td align=3D"right"><font size=3D"2">=A0-1=A0</font></td><td align=3D"left=
"><font size=3D"2">=A0JO02dg=A0</font></td><td align=3D"right"><font size=
=3D"2">=A00.001=A0</font></td><td align=3D"left"><font size=3D"2">=A0G6ALB=
=A0</font></td><td align=3D"left">

<font size=3D"2">=A0JO02dg=A0</font></td><td align=3D"right"><font size=3D=
"2">=A00=A0</font></td><td align=3D"right"><font size=3D"2">=A00=A0</font>=
</td></tr></tbody></table><br clear=3D"all">At least the signal is getting=
 across the fields at the back of the house. Andrew G6ALB is in the next=
 village. You can see by my report that I have a LOT of work to do....<br>

<br>73s<br>Roger G3XBM<br><font color=3D"#888888">-- <br>-----------------=
--------------------------------------------<br><a href=3D"http://g3xbm-qr=
p.blogspot.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/</a><br><=
a href=3D"http://www.g3xbm.co.uk" target=3D"_blank">http://www.g3xbm.co.uk=
</a><br>

G3XBM =A0 =A0GQRP 1678 =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL G11088<br>
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Hello LF!

1940   5  0.9   1.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
1946   7  0.8   1.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
1950 -24  1.2   1.503914  0 G4WGT IO83 27
1952   0  0.9   1.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
1958   7  0.9   1.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40

73!

Lubos, OK2BVG

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Hello LF!<br><br>1940&nbsp;&nbsp; 5&nbsp; 0.9&nbsp;&nbsp; 1.503925&nbsp; 0 SM6BHZ JO57 40<br>1946&nbsp;&nbsp; 7&nbsp; 0.8&nbsp;&nbsp; 1.503925&nbsp; 0 SM6BHZ JO57 40<br>1950 -24&nbsp; 1.2&nbsp;&nbsp; 1.503914&nbsp; 0 G4WGT IO83 27<br>1952&nbsp;&nbsp; 0&nbsp; 0.9&nbsp;&nbsp; 1.503925&nbsp; 0 SM6BHZ JO57 40<br>1958&nbsp;&nbsp; 7&nbsp; 0.9&nbsp;&nbsp; 1.503925&nbsp; 0 SM6BHZ JO57 40<br><br>73!<br><br>Lubos, OK2BVG<br><br /><hr />Sdílejte své zážitky s kýmkoli chcete <a href='http://www.microsoft.com/cze/windows/windowslive/products/photos-share.aspx?tab=1' target='_new'>s kýmkoli chcete.</a></body>
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Jim,

Emails  have  crossed in the system hi.

I note the reply , re USA  operating frequency's

The large gap in frequency made itself  apparent at the  time of my  first 
post , but with the  availability of  digital receivers, with the  ability 
to  capture quite  large spectrums, as can be  observed on for  example 
Gary's  grabber  page   http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html
perhaps the gap is not as problematic as might be of been in the past ?

A more conventional solution may be to  channel scan with the  rx , assuming 
the  rx may be  controlled by the pc ... how much of the wspr  signal do 
you  'actually need' to  decode, what happens if you  chop it.. room for 
experiment ?

G .




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From: "James Moritz" <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 7:40 PM
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Subject: Re: LF: Re: US 500-kHz band plan

>
> Sorry, pressed "send" too soon by accident!
>
> Dear Graham, LF Group,
>
>> As the  European allocation looks to  be  wider than the  Uk, are we
>> expecting the  UK 3 Khz  allocation to  remain as is, if  and when the
>> band is formalised ?, in which case loosing 200 hz may not be the  most
>> sensible option ...
>
> As I understand it, there are not yet any formal Europe-wide proposals, 
> just
> what individual regulators have allocated on a case-by-case basis. I think
> G, EI, and ON have all allocated 501 - 504. The DL beacons and OK0EMW are
> licenced to use spot frequencies around 505kHz. Gus SM6BHZ would be able 
> to
> use 504.0 - 504.1kHz.
>
> But the main thing is whether we over here should transmit around 504kHz 
> as
> we are now, or shift to near 501kHz to share a common WSPR segment with 
> the
> US. On one hand, keeping to near 504k would have the advantage of no 
> strong
> signals in band for those trying to receive US stations. But on the other
> hand, it might mean we get QRMed by "general comms" US stations for those
> trying to receive us, and anyone wanting to receive both US and EU 
> stations
> would need two receivers/soundcards, etc.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
>
>



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http://lwca.org/library/reference/LORAN/loran_lines.htm

VE7SL@shaw.ca wrote:
> Help! At one time there was a list of Loran lines visible within the 
> 2200m allocation but it seems to have vanished. Is there still a source 
> of this valuable info available somewhere on the web?
> 
> Steve
> 
> 
> WEB - "The VE7SL Radio Notebook":  http://members.shaw.ca/ve7sl
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Hi all
The 500KHz grabber at GM4ISM will be QRT after tomorrow night for about 7 
weeks, as I am out of the courtry and the server will be shut down. The WSPR 
RX will also be unavailable during this time.
Normal service will be resumed around mid November when I return from my 
holiday.
Regards
Mark ISM
www.dc2light.co.uk





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best:

2138   -19  0.7   0.503841  M0BMU IO91 33
2146     -1  0.8   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 40

73


> Hi Andrey,
> thank's report and info !
> 
> 73 de Gus SM6BHZ
> 
> www.sm6bhz.com
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Andrey rn3agc" <rn3agc@mail.ru>
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> 
>> Hi Gus, Jim, LF,
>> 
>> 1920   -23  0.9   0.503926  SM6BHZ JO57 30
>> 1932   -16  1.0   0.503926  SM6BHZ JO57 30
>> 1938   -15  1.1   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 30
>> 1948   -10  0.9   0.503926  SM6BHZ JO57 40
>> 1958     -8  0.9   0.503926  SM6BHZ JO57 40
>> 2002   -26  0.8   0.503841  M0BMU IO91 33
>> 2004     -2  1.0   0.503926  SM6BHZ JO57 40
>> 2006   -27  0.6   0.503841  M0BMU IO91 33
>> 2014   -26  1.4   0.503841  M0BMU IO91 33
>> 2014   -14  0.8   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 40
>> 2018   -22  0.8   0.503841  M0BMU IO91 33
>> 2022     -6  1.0   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 40
>> 2028     -6  0.8   0.503926  SM6BHZ JO57 40
>> 2032   -21  0.8   0.503841  M0BMU IO91 33
>> 2032     -5  0.9   0.503926  SM6BHZ JO57 40
>> 2038     -8  1.0   0.503926  SM6BHZ JO57 40
>> 2046     -3  1.0   0.503926  SM6BHZ JO57 40
>> 2050   -29  0.8   0.503841  M0BMU IO91 33
>> 2052     -9  0.7   0.503926  SM6BHZ JO57 40
>> 2056   -30  0.6   0.503841  M0BMU IO91 33
>> 2056     -9  0.8   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 40
>> 2102   -24  0.5   0.503841  M0BMU IO91 33
>> 2102     -9  0.8   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 40
>> 2108   -21  0.6   0.503841  M0BMU IO91 33
>> 2110     -7  0.9   0.503926  SM6BHZ JO57 40
>> 2116   -20  0.6   0.503841  M0BMU IO91 33
>> 2116   -15  0.6   0.503926  SM6BHZ JO57 40
>> 2122   -24  2.1   0.503841  M0BMU IO91 33
>> 2124     -7  0.8   0.503926  SM6BHZ JO57 40
>> 
>> 73
>> Andrey
>>
> 
> 
>


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Hi Jim, LF!
I'v got some trace into my ARGO after 0430MSC LT on 503.5 kHz at=20
9sep2009!
looking my 500 part some later.

http://rw3adb.narod.ru/2009/9sep2009_M0BMU_WOLF/502.4_3_00020.jpg
http://rw3adb.narod.ru/2009/9sep2009_M0BMU_WOLF/502.4_3_00021.jpg
http://rw3adb.narod.ru/2009/9sep2009_M0BMU_WOLF/502.4_3_00026.jpg
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http://rw3adb.narod.ru/2009/9sep2009_M0BMU_WOLF/502.4_3_00033.jpg
http://rw3adb.narod.ru/2009/9sep2009_M0BMU_WOLF/502.4_3_00034.jpg

Roman


* Roman RW3ADB <rw3adb@rambler.ru> [Wed, 09 Sep 2009 04:00:21 +0400]:
> =D1aprice of the prop on 500 today... (((
> I'v do not got any traces in Moscow today.
> WSPR is clear after 1h.
> Dial 502.4 and looking around 503.5 in argo up to sunrise.
> 73!
> Roman
>
>
> * Roman RW3ADB <rw3adb@rambler.ru> [Wed, 09 Sep 2009 02:50:56 +0400]:
> > Hi Jim, LF!
> > Inside my side band, but no WOLF prog- argo running now.
> > Roman
> >
> >
> > * James Moritz <james.moritz@btopenworld.com> [Tue, 8 Sep 2009
> 22:02:22
> > +0100]:
> > > Dear LF Group,
> > >
> > > I am now running a "standard" WOLF 10 mode beacon on 503.500kHz=20
for
> > the
> > > next
> > > few hours. Any reports would be very welcome. Information and
> software
> > > downloads can be found at
> > > http://freenet-homepage.de/dl4yhf/wolf/index.html.
> > > The beacon may shut down from time to time, because the signal=20
seems
> > to
> > > scramble my ADSL modem...
> > >
> > > Cheers, Jim Moritz
> > > 73 de M0BMU
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>



--
Roman RW3ADB.

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I rx your signal, Jim!
http://rw3adb.narod.ru/2009/7sep2009_503.5kHz/MBU.jpg
Dial freq is incorrect, but the prog is decoded.

Roman

* James Moritz <james.moritz@btopenworld.com> [Sun, 6 Sep 2009 21:05:12 
+0100]:
> Dear LF Group,
>
> The M0BMU WSPR beacon is running again - I have jacked up the antenna 
to
> increase the ERP a bit. G4WGT and G7NKS are also active - any reports
> would
> be very welcome.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
>




--
Roman RW3ADB.


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Dear LF,

My antenna is down for service, so i have only receiver mode for WSPR=
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73 de Gus SM6BHZ

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Hi Gus,

good copy with 49 in southern Germany JN68kj .
I've sent you a mp3 file.

73
Clemens
DL4RAJ
  ----- Original Message ----- 
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  Dear LF,

  this evening i test an SSB Beacon, QRG 508 kHz LSB.
  Reports are welcome.

  73 de Gus SM6BHZ
  www.sm6bhz.com




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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73<BR>Clemens<BR>DL4RAJ</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4>Dear LF,</FONT></EM></STRONG></DIV>
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  <DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4>this evening i test an SSB Beacon,=
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  <DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4>Reports are welcome.</FONT></EM></ST=
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Dear LF Group,

The WSPR beacon shut down at 0740utc. Thanks for all the reports overnight.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU


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Had 12 lines of SM6BHZ copy last night between 0152 and 0420 from my 
home QTH in Massachusetts. No sign of other calls. The spots have been 
loaded to the MEPT database.

John, W1TAG (FN42ch)


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Hi LF,

a number of decodes in SE this night.

1848 -26  0.9   0.503911  0 G4WGT IO83 27
1852 -18  1.1   0.503910  0 G4WGT IO83 27
1900 -20  0.3   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
1912 -24  0.4   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
1922 -15  0.3   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
1926 -16  0.3   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
1926 -20  1.2   0.503910  0 G4WGT IO83 27
1930 -14  0.2   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
1930 -18  1.2   0.503910  0 G4WGT IO83 27
1934 -17  1.2   0.503910  0 G4WGT IO83 27
1936 -16  0.5   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
1948 -19  1.2   0.503910  0 G4WGT IO83 27
1958 -11  0.9   0.503910  0 G4WGT IO83 27
2000 -19  0.3   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
2004 -17  1.0   0.503910  0 G4WGT IO83 27
2006 -20  0.3   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
2012 -24  0.3   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
2020 -11  1.4   0.503887  0 G0NBD IO83 23
2024 -11  1.2   0.503887  0 G0NBD IO83 23
2026 -20  0.1   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
2030 -18  0.2   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
2032 -11  1.6   0.503887  0 G0NBD IO83 23
2036 -25  0.1   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
2036 -15  1.3   0.503887  0 G0NBD IO83 23
2038 -26  1.2   0.503910  0 G4WGT IO83 27
2044 -14  1.6   0.503887  0 G0NBD IO83 23
2046 -22  0.1   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
2046 -25  0.8   0.503910  0 G4WGT IO83 27
2052 -22  0.1   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
2052 -13  1.3   0.503887  0 G0NBD IO83 23
2104 -14  1.0   0.503910  0 G4WGT IO83 27
2106 -20  0.1   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
2110 -15  0.9   0.503910  0 G4WGT IO83 27
2112 -20  1.5   0.503887  0 G0NBD IO83 23
2116 -21  0.6   0.503910  0 G4WGT IO83 27
2118 -20  1.3   0.503887  0 G0NBD IO83 23
2126 -21  0.0   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
2130 -23  0.0   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
2130 -16  0.9   0.503910  0 G4WGT IO83 27
2134 -23  0.2   0.503946  0 M0LMH IO93 20
2136 -20  0.0   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
2144 -15  1.4   0.503887  0 G0NBD IO83 23
2144 -22  0.2   0.503941  0 M0LMH IO93 20
2146 -18 -0.1   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
2146 -23  0.6   0.503910  0 G4WGT IO83 27
2150 -20  0.6   0.503910  0 G4WGT IO83 27
2154 -21  0.6   0.503910  0 G4WGT IO83 27
2206 -15 -0.2   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
2206 -20  0.5   0.503910  0 G4WGT IO83 27
2214 -18  0.6   0.503910  0 G4WGT IO83 27
2218 -19  1.4   0.503887  0 G0NBD IO83 23
2222 -23  0.5   0.503910  0 G4WGT IO83 27
2224 -14  1.0   0.503887  0 G0NBD IO83 23
2226 -17  0.0   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
2226 -21 -0.1   0.503949  0 M0LMH IO93 20
2230 -22  0.0   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
2230 -16  1.0   0.503887  0 G0NBD IO83 23
2234 -14  1.0   0.503887  0 G0NBD IO83 23
2234 -24  0.4   0.503910  0 G4WGT IO83 27
2234 -16  0.0   0.503950  0 M0LMH IO93 20
2236 -26 -0.1   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
2242 -19  0.0   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
2242 -17  1.2   0.503887  0 G0NBD IO83 23
2244 -17  0.6   0.503910  0 G4WGT IO83 27
2248 -16  0.5   0.503910  0 G4WGT IO83 27
2252 -19  0.0   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
2252 -20  0.0   0.503949  0 M0LMH IO93 27
2254 -13  1.4   0.503887  0 G0NBD IO83 23
2254 -18  0.6   0.503910  0 G4WGT IO83 27
2300 -17  0.9   0.503887  0 G0NBD IO83 23
2306 -22 -0.1   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
2306 -19  0.6   0.503910  0 G4WGT IO83 27
2308 -19  1.0   0.503887  0 G0NBD IO83 23
2308 -20  0.2   0.503950  0 M0LMH IO93 20
2314 -15  0.7   0.503910  0 G4WGT IO83 27
2316 -18  1.2   0.503887  0 G0NBD IO83 23
2318 -24  0.0   0.503950  0 M0LMH IO93 20
2322 -18  0.0   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
2324 -16  1.4   0.503887  0 G0NBD IO83 23
2324 -24  0.7   0.503910  0 G4WGT IO83 27
2330 -22  0.0   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
2334 -24  0.0   0.503949  0 M0LMH IO93 20
2336 -24  0.0   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
2336 -19  0.6   0.503910  0 G4WGT IO83 27
2336 -18  0.0   0.503949  0 M0LMH IO93 20
2338 -18 -0.2   0.503949  0 M0LMH IO93 20
2342 -18  0.1   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
2352 -18  0.1   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
0000 -23  0.1   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
0006 -15  0.0   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
0012 -17  0.0   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
0012 -12  1.1   0.503887  0 G0NBD IO83 23
0020 -15  1.7   0.503887  0 G0NBD IO83 23
0024 -13  1.8   0.503887  0 G0NBD IO83 23
0026 -19  0.1   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
0028  -9  1.4   0.503887  0 G0NBD IO83 23
0032 -10  1.5   0.503887  0 G0NBD IO83 23
0036 -26  0.1   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
0102 -16 -0.3   0.503951 -1 M0LMH IO93 20
0106 -16  0.0   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
0112 -19  0.3   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
0122 -19  0.2   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
0124 -14 -0.4   0.503950 -1 M0LMH IO93 20
0130 -13  0.1   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
0130 -22 -0.3   0.503950 -1 M0LMH IO93 20
0136 -18  0.1   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
0138 -18 -0.1   0.503951 -1 M0LMH IO93 20
0144 -16 -0.3   0.503951  0 M0LMH IO93 20
0146 -24  0.2   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
0152 -24  0.3   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
0152 -19 -0.5   0.503951 -1 M0LMH IO93 20
0156 -22 -0.4   0.503950  0 M0LMH IO93 20
0200 -21  0.2   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
0202 -19 -0.2   0.503951 -1 M0LMH IO93 20
0208 -21 -0.4   0.503951  0 M0LMH IO93 20
0212 -23  0.2   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
0216 -14 -0.5   0.503951  0 M0LMH IO93 20
0222 -18  0.4   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
0226 -17  0.3   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
0230 -16  0.3   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
0242 -17  0.4   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
0246 -16  0.3   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
0252 -15  0.3   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
0300 -17  0.3   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
0306 -19  0.2   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
0308 -22 -0.5   0.503951  0 M0LMH IO93 20
0312 -26  0.2   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
0322 -22  0.3   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
0326 -19  0.3   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
0326 -25 -0.5   0.503951  0 M0LMH IO93 20
0330 -15  0.2   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
0334 -23 -0.6   0.503951  0 M0LMH IO93 20
0346 -20  0.1   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
0352 -27  0.0   0.503850 -1 G4JNT IO90 23
0400 -22  0.0   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
0400 -20 -0.9   0.503950  0 M0LMH IO93 20
0406 -22  0.1   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
0406 -24 -0.8   0.503951  0 M0LMH IO93 20
0412 -22  0.2   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
0412 -16 -0.9   0.503951 -1 M0LMH IO93 20
0422 -20  0.2   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
0430 -27  0.1   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23

73 de Gus

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<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4>Hi LF,</FONT></EM></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4></FONT></EM></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4>a number of decodes in SE this=20
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<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4>1848 -26&nbsp; 0.9&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.50391=
1&nbsp; 0=20
G4WGT IO83 27<BR>1852 -18&nbsp; 1.1&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503910&nbsp; 0 G4WGT=
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27<BR>1900 -20&nbsp; 0.3&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503850&nbsp; 0 G4JNT IO90 23<BR=
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-24&nbsp; 0.4&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503850&nbsp; 0 G4JNT IO90 23<BR>1922 -15&n=
bsp;=20
0.3&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503850&nbsp; 0 G4JNT IO90 23<BR>1926 -16&nbsp; 0.3&n=
bsp;&nbsp;=20
0.503850&nbsp; 0 G4JNT IO90 23<BR>1926 -20&nbsp; 1.2&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503=
910&nbsp;=20
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bsp;&nbsp;=20
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IO93 20<BR>0130 -13&nbsp; 0.1&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503850&nbsp; 0 G4JNT IO90=
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bsp;&nbsp;=20
0.503850&nbsp; 0 G4JNT IO90 23<BR>0138 -18 -0.1&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503951=
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IO93 20<BR>0144 -16 -0.3&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503951&nbsp; 0 M0LMH IO93 20<BR=
>0146=20
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bsp;=20
0.3&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503850&nbsp; 0 G4JNT IO90 23<BR>0152 -19 -0.5&nbsp;&=
nbsp;=20
0.503951 -1 M0LMH IO93 20<BR>0156 -22 -0.4&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503950&nbsp;=
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IO93 20<BR>0200 -21&nbsp; 0.2&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503850&nbsp; 0 G4JNT IO90=
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-19 -0.2&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503951 -1 M0LMH IO93 20<BR>0208 -21 -0.4&nbsp;&=
nbsp;=20
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850&nbsp;=20
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bsp;=20
0.3&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503850&nbsp; 0 G4JNT IO90 23<BR>0242 -17&nbsp; 0.4&n=
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850&nbsp;=20
0 G4JNT IO90 23<BR>0252 -15&nbsp; 0.3&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503850&nbsp; 0 G4J=
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23<BR>0300 -17&nbsp; 0.3&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503850&nbsp; 0 G4JNT IO90 23<BR=
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-19&nbsp; 0.2&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503850&nbsp; 0 G4JNT IO90 23<BR>0308 -22=
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-0.5&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503951&nbsp; 0 M0LMH IO93 20<BR>0312 -26&nbsp;=20
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0.503850&nbsp; 0 G4JNT IO90 23<BR>0326 -19&nbsp; 0.3&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503=
850&nbsp;=20
0 G4JNT IO90 23<BR>0326 -25 -0.5&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503951&nbsp; 0 M0LMH IO=
93=20
20<BR>0330 -15&nbsp; 0.2&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503850&nbsp; 0 G4JNT IO90 23<BR=
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bsp; 0=20
G4JNT IO90 23<BR>0400 -20 -0.9&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503950&nbsp; 0 M0LMH IO93=
=20
20<BR>0406 -22&nbsp; 0.1&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503850&nbsp; 0 G4JNT IO90 23<BR=
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nbsp;=20
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bsp; 0=20
G4JNT IO90 23<BR>0430 -27&nbsp; 0.1&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503850&nbsp; 0 G4JNT=
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<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4>73 de Gus</FONT></EM></STRONG></DIV>
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Hi Jim,Gus and Gary,

 2009-09-05 21:58  G4WGT  0.503910  -25  0  IO83qo  0.5  DL4RAJ  JN68kj  1226  112 
 2009-09-05 21:58  M0BMU  0.503975  -11  0  IO91vr  2  DL4RAJ  JN68kj  1003  107 
 2009-09-05 21:56  SM6BHZ  0.503950  -13  0  JO57wq  1  DL4RAJ  JN68kj  1035  176 
 2009-09-05 21:52  SM6BHZ  0.503951  -5  0  JO57wq  1  DL4RAJ  JN68kj  1035  176 
 2009-09-05 21:52  M0BMU  0.503975  -17  0  IO91vr  2  DL4RAJ  JN68kj  1003  107 
 2009-09-05 21:48  SM6BHZ  0.503950  -6  0  JO57wq  1  DL4RAJ  JN68kj  1035  176 
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 2009-09-05 21:44  SM6BHZ  0.503950  -5  0  JO57wq  1  DL4RAJ  JN68kj  1035  176 

Unfortunately my wspr sw has also uploaded two spots from 500kHz to the 160m section
of the database due to an 'operator error' before I could stop it.
Going to bed now and cl.

73
Clemens
DL4RAJ




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> Dear LF Group,
> 
> The WSPR beacon is now running again on 503.975kHz (502.4kHz "dial 
> frequency"). Any reports would be very welcome.
> 
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU 
>




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Andy,

As the  502.4 dial frequency looks to  be  accepted , with other stati=
ons moving in to  the  capture area when running  wspr and as it would=
 seem, AA1A is monitoring this dial setting  a frequency in the lower=
  part of the wspr section would  ensue a clear frequency, activity lo=
oks to  be  centred in the  higher portion of the  band ?=20

These look to be the  first wspr spots , of which I assume to be the=
  'first established permanent wspr  beacon' ?

      2009-09-19 12:06   G4JNT   0.503855   -9   0   IO90iv   0.2   G3=
XVL   JO02nb   212   51 =20
       2009-09-19 12:06   G4JNT   0.503850   -23   0   IO90iv   0.2 =
  M0LMH   IO93gx   343   358 =20
       2009-09-19 12:06   G4JNT   0.503850   -1   0   IO90iv   0.2  =
 M0BMU   IO91vr   119   39 =20


Power wise , during daylight , your ground wave looks to  be  simply=
 a function of  power , at  -23  at 343 k with 100 watts ? , you  coul=
d reduce by  10dB to  10 watts and still provide ground wave data ? ,=
 in tests last  year  with  Rick ON7T , carrier levels below 1 watt st=
ill decoded at  range.=20

I will up date the beacon page on uk500khz to  include the  new mode=
=20

73 - G .=20




From: Andy Talbot=20
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2009 12:06 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Subject: LF: 'JNT Dual purpose beacons


I'm in the last stages of modifying my beacon to include a WSPR transm=
ission that will run pseudo-simultaneously with the 15 minute regular=
 one at 503.7kHz

It has turned out to be posible to fit all the code into one controlle=
r PIC which simplifies the hardware considerably - the only downside=
 is that the PSK31 message length has had to be shortened by a few cha=
racters to be able to get the additional WSPR symbol and frequency inf=
ormation into the EEPROM area of the PIC.

I've included to option to be able to transmit the WSPR signal at a lo=
wer amplitude than the 15 minute beacon, and the pseudo random timing=
 is anything but - it has been chosen to fit round the 15 minute inter=
vals, and preferably not adjacent to them. =20

Before I programme-up the actual beacon Tx, can I have some suggestion=
 on the frequency that would be best to avoid existing users, and what=
 sort of power to adopt, bearing in mind the main Tx runs at about 100=
 Watts of RF giving somewhere in the region of 24dBm ERP.  Also some=
 idea of a duty cycle to use - 50% is the maximum I've allowed for.

Andy
www.g4jnt.com

this email has been scanned for political correctness by the nanny sta=
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Andy,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>As the&nbsp; 502.4 dial frequency loo=
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be&nbsp; accepted , with other&nbsp;stations moving in to&nbsp; the&nb=
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 to&nbsp;=20
be&nbsp; centred in the&nbsp; higher portion of the&nbsp; band ? </FON=
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>These look to be the&nbsp; first wspr=
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which I assume to be the&nbsp; 'first established permanent wspr&nbsp;=
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?</FONT></DIV>
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<TABLE>
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    <TD align=3Dright>2009-09-19 12:06&nbsp;</TD>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Power wise , during daylight , your=
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3&nbsp; at=20
343 k with 100 watts ? , you&nbsp; could reduce by&nbsp; 10dB to&nbsp;=
 10 watts=20
and still provide ground wave data ? , in tests last&nbsp; year&nbsp;=
 with&nbsp;=20
Rick ON7T , carrier levels below 1 watt still decoded at&nbsp; range.=
=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>I will up date the beacon page on uk5=
00khz to&nbsp;=20
include the&nbsp; new mode </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>73 - G . </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #f5f5f5">
<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=3Dandy.g4jnt@go=
oglemail.com   href=3D"mailto:andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com">Andy Talbot</=
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, September 19, 2009 12:06 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org   href=3D"mail=
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> LF: 'JNT Dual purpose beacons</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>I'm in the&nbsp;last stages of modifying&nbsp;my beacon&nbsp;to=
 include a=20
WSPR transmission that will run&nbsp;pseudo-simultaneously&nbsp;with=
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<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>It has turned out to&nbsp;be posible to fit all the code into one=
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<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>I've included to option to be able to transmit the WSPR signal at=
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but - it has&nbsp;been chosen to fit round the 15 minute intervals, an=
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<DIV>Before I programme-up the actual beacon Tx, can I have some sugge=
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Hello Gus!
The signal is still good, when you changed a power to 1W.

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Thank you Marco for the fb QSO this morning. Good signal from Torino
trespassing the alps. Station here: RX Icom IC756 Pro III as receiver,
home made TX with class D PA with 4X IRFP250 and abt. 600W. Could
deliver 1.2kW at full pwr. Antenna: 55m long inverted L, only 12m
above ground, which I also use for 160-30m. Coil: autotransformer
3.5mH with variometer. Ground system: all iron fences in the
neighborhood, hi. 73 and hope to meet you again. Toni, HB9ASB JN36NU

2009/9/27, Scholz, Marco <marco.scholz@citi.com>:
> Hello Anton,
> I copied your CQ (starting at 8:09UTC) in QRSS3 this morning very good in
> JN49.
>
> Vy73
> Marco
> DD7PC
>


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Hi Jim, LF!
Inside my side band, but no WOLF prog- argo running now.
Roman


* James Moritz <james.moritz@btopenworld.com> [Tue, 8 Sep 2009 22:02:22 
+0100]:
> Dear LF Group,
>
> I am now running a "standard" WOLF 10 mode beacon on 503.500kHz for 
the
> next
> few hours. Any reports would be very welcome. Information and software
> downloads can be found at
> http://freenet-homepage.de/dl4yhf/wolf/index.html.
> The beacon may shut down from time to time, because the signal seems 
to
> scramble my ADSL modem...
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
>




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Roman RW3ADB.


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Maybe u like FICTION I like FACTS
g3kev
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> >the same old repetive rubbish.
>>g3kev
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> very respectfull Mal
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Thanks Willem!
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Dear LF Group,

So, as far as trans-atlantic band-plans are concerned: It appears that there 
isn't actually a common frequency range that all stations on both sides of 
the Atlantic could use for WSPR beacons or anything else, so the shared WSPR 
segment is really a non-starter. There is nothing actually preventing use of 
the 501.0 - 501.2kHz range in cooperation with WD2XSH stations should they 
wish to, but there does not seem to be any great advantage to using this 
frequency from the point of view of other US stations, for whom 
split-frequency working would be a necessity in any mode.  Since the UK 
allocations are currently experimental, and the long-term form of the band 
may change, it would seem sensible to continue with ad-hoc frequency 
arrangements as we have at the moment.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU 



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Hello group!    

Just saw F8BOJ 20db over noise in JN88hl.
I can't get back to him because I haven't got at TX yet.
I completed my antenna yesterday.
I is about 80m of wire in avg. 10m above ground (600pf) and a 2,2mH
coil. RX is TS440S with selective Preamp.

Cheers and 73

OE3GHB
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roman
u are now 599 tnx report on 7033
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>> Excellent propagartion world wide on 7Mcs tonite but so far nothing
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> Not so excellent, Mal. You are do not copy me on 40 now. -)
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At 1455z.

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 A very poor drifting qrs signal on LF totally unstable
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At 10:59 AM 9/11/2009, Jay wrote:
>WE2XGR/2 will transmit in WOLF mode tonight from 2230 - 0330Z on 
>508.5 kHz. Local sunset is 2300Z. Reports are always appreciated.

Below are two decodings from the *same* recording.  Radio tuned to 
508.600 Khz for nominal 799.988 Hz audio output,
so Jay is at 699.988 and John is at 899.988 Hz (200 Hz 
higher).  Recording started at 23:25:00 utc.  I'll post spectral 
display shortly.  Conditions tonight excellent.  Antenna: 2 
orthogonal loops, each 100' circumference, phased to favor signals 
from the southeast of here.

using wolf -r 8200.389 -f 699.988 -t 0.2  file: RAW1
WOLF version 0.51
t:  24 f: 0.002 a:-1.4 dp:121.1 ci: 1 cj: 56 WE2XGR/2 FN31IS -
t:  48 f: 0.001 a:-1.3 dp:121.2 ci: 1 cj: 56 WE2XGR/2 FN31IS -
t:  96 f: 0.001 a:-1.3 dp:121.1 ci: 1 cj: 56 WE2XGR/2 FN31IS -
t: 192 f: 0.000 pm:4095 jm:847               WE2XGR/2 FN31IS -
t: 288 f: 0.000 pm:8190 jm:847               WE2XGR/2 FN31IS -
t: 384 f: 0.000 pm:12285 jm:847               WE2XGR/2 FN31IS -
t: 480 f: 0.000 pm:16380 jm:847               WE2XGR/2 FN31IS -
t: 576 f: 0.000 pm:20475 jm:847               WE2XGR/2 FN31IS -
t: 672 f: 0.000 pm:24570 jm:847               WE2XGR/2 FN31IS -
t: 768 f: 0.000 pm:28665 jm:847               WE2XGR/2 FN31IS -
t: 864 f: 0.000 pm:32760 jm:847               WE2XGR/2 FN31IS -
t: 960 f: 0.000 pm:36855 jm:847               WE2XGR/2 FN31IS -
t:1056 f: 0.000 pm:40950 jm:847               WE2XGR/2 FN31IS -
t:1152 f: 0.000 pm:45045 jm:847               WE2XGR/2 FN31IS -
t:1248 f: 0.000 pm:49140 jm:847               WE2XGR/2 FN31IS -
t:1344 f: 0.000 pm:53235 jm:847               WE2XGR/2 FN31IS -
t:1440 f: 0.000 pm:57330 jm:847               WE2XGR/2 FN31IS -
t:1536 f: 0.000 pm:61425 jm:847               WE2XGR/2 FN31IS -
t:1632 f: 0.000 pm:65520 jm:847               WE2XGR/2 FN31IS -

And same recording,
using wolf -r 8200.398 -f 899.988 -t 0.2
WOLF version 0.51
t:  24 f:-0.021 a: 0.3 dp: 81.8 ci: 4 cj:359 OR*BY7T4FYDH28M ?
t:  48 f:-0.001 a: 1.0 dp: 84.6 ci: 4 cj:359 OH4HL4*WMW*QJ 4 ?
t:  96 f: 0.001 a: 0.7 dp: 85.5 ci: 0 cj:280 MM*5UVUNBVODB2C ?
t: 192 f:-0.010 pm:  44 jm:242               WE2XGR/3 FN42CH -
t: 288 f:-0.010 pm: 472 jm:242               WE2XGR/3 FN42CH -
t: 384 f:-0.010 pm: 996 jm:242               WE2XGR/3 FN42CH -
t: 480 f:-0.010 pm:3285 jm:242               WE2XGR/3 FN42CH -
t: 576 f:-0.010 pm:5086 jm:242               WE2XGR/3 FN42CH -
t: 672 f:-0.010 pm:7120 jm:242               WE2XGR/3 FN42CH -
t: 768 f:-0.010 pm:7980 jm:242               WE2XGR/3 FN42CH -
t: 864 f:-0.010 pm:9091 jm:242               WE2XGR/3 FN42CH -
t: 960 f:-0.010 pm:13186 jm:242               WE2XGR/3 FN42CH -
t:1056 f:-0.010 pm:17281 jm:242               WE2XGR/3 FN42CH -
t:1152 f:-0.010 pm:19755 jm:242               WE2XGR/3 FN42CH -
t:1248 f:-0.010 pm:20891 jm:242               WE2XGR/3 FN42CH -
t:1344 f:-0.010 pm:21935 jm:242               WE2XGR/3 FN42CH -
t:1440 f:-0.010 pm:22946 jm:242               WE2XGR/3 FN42CH -
t:1536 f:-0.010 pm:25725 jm:242               WE2XGR/3 FN42CH -
t:1632 f:-0.010 pm:27859 jm:242               WE2XGR/3 FN42CH -

Note: started recording at 23:25:00 - that was 5 minutes before John was
supposed to start transmitting - but he may have been in there earlier?

73,
Bill VE2IQ



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This afternoon I fired up my 700mW 500kHz WSPR beacon and wet string (ERP
microwatts) and got 3 reports from G3XVL at 61kms.

So, I tried putting a 6dB then a 10dB attenuator between the PA and the ATU.
Even with the power from the PA of just 70mW (never mind what that would be
as ERP from the antenna) he still gave me a -25dB S/N report! These were the
three reports in reverse ordder:

 2009-09-14 14:42  G3XBM  0.503829  -25  1  JO02dg  0.001  G3XVL  JO02nb
 61  112   2009-09-14 14:40  G3XBM  0.503827  -23  1  JO02dg  0.001  G3XVL
 JO02nb  61  112   2009-09-14 14:36  G3XBM  0.503823  -18  1  JO02dg  0.001
 G3XVL  JO02nb  61  112
73s
Roger
G3XBM

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http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/
http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
G3XBM    GQRP 1678      ISWL G11088

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This afternoon I fired up my 700mW 500kHz WSPR beacon and wet string (ERP=
 microwatts) and got 3 reports from G3XVL at 61kms. <br><br>So, I tried pu=
tting a 6dB then a 10dB attenuator between the PA and the ATU. Even with=
 the power from the PA of just 70mW (never mind what that would be as ERP=
 from the antenna) he still gave me a -25dB S/N report! These were the thr=
ee reports in reverse ordder:<br>
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t"><font size=3D"2">=A0112=A0</font></td></tr>
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t"><font size=3D"2">=A0112=A0</font></td></tr></tbody></table><br>73s<br>R=
oger<br>G3XBM<br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>--------------------------------=
-----------------------------<br>
<a href=3D"http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/">http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/<=
/a><br><a href=3D"http://www.g3xbm.co.uk">http://www.g3xbm.co.uk</a><br>G3=
XBM =A0 =A0GQRP 1678 =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL G11088<br>

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Reception in EM75xr ( Friendsville, TN. USA ) last night was very good.
Solid copy on " WD2XES -John in DFCW with no fades over a 3 hour period.
at 03:00 UTC, WD2XGJ - Warren in QRSS mode was audible here even during
his CW ID sequence, with very little fading. Got some nice captures too.

73 :::

Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz ( QRSS-60 )
Coordinates:  N:  35* 43' 54" - W:  84* 3' 16"
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Hi LF,
Capture DI2AG
Henny pa3cpm
best 73s
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No problem Jim.
 
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Hello LF!
SO5AS is CQing on 137.700, mode QRSS3. I have seen him "000".
Any news about HF70W?

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Roger Lapthorn wrote:
> My 500kHz beacon has just been turned back on again. Any reports or 
> screenshots would be appreciated.  It would be lovely to have some 
> reports from a few new stations too and I'd just love to get >100kms 
> with the current QRP set-up.
>
> 73s
> Roger
> -- 
> -------------------------------------------------------------
> http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/
> http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
> G3XBM    GQRP 1678      ISWL G11088
Roger, I had my Rx running all last night, I'll do the same from now, 
lets hope.
Tim M0AFJ io("OB


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Roger Lapthorn wrote:

> Success!!! Recalibrated the sound card as suggested and BINGO - decode 
> on first try!
>
> 2009-09-10 21:15:29 >WOLF10  -r 8100.257 -f 1000 -t 1 -w 0.0000
> t:  24 f:-0.339 a:-1.5 dp: 85.6 ci: 7 cj:272 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
>
>
> 73s and thanks for everyone's help tonight
>
> Roger G3XBM
>
ooops!  you've already done it before my mail arrived . sorry, did not 
see it !
CONGRATULATIONS !

                                                      73 de piotr, sq7mpj
qth: Lodz /jo91rs/


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Hello Henny ,
Good conditions this still on the Atlantic, and Asia.
On your capure one sees the signal of UA4WPF beacon!
73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

henny van elst a =E9crit :
> Hi Warren LF,
> Nice capture XGJ
> Henny pa3cpm
> best 73
>  =20

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Thanks Jim - I have to keep tabs myself at work whats actually happening=
 in this domain and theatre (in more ways than one) - I guess Ill see the=
 next release of a Chinese text Navtex receiver probably in a couple of we=
eks down the local market. The interesting thing is the guys down the road=
 are actually testing on 484 not 486 and we have this lovely asssigned ver=
sus carrier debacle that crops up now and again - some say 2 some 2.1 Khz=
 off set etc etc. I didnt go into that with the station manager there but=
 its going to be interesting - I still recall of lot of my miltary radio=
 days with the PRC series used to keep my head scratching a lot on what I=
 was really transmitting on...still do.

=20

I picked up the China bit from

http://www.iho.shom.fr/COMMITTEES/CPRNW/CPRNW9/CPRNW9-3-3-1.pdf

and they cite here and else where the issues of limiting power cos of co=
 channel.

=20

My local Navtex station is some 100 miles from here and luckily theyve got=
 the tuning right - it can be a bit of a mess, and I recall some of the aw=
ful tuned Navtex transmissions that plagued me in Singapore marine trying=
 to listen on 500 -=20

=20

I do miss awfully the musical and not so musical A2 sounds when I was at=
 sea....Argh Jim lad - isnt it talk like a pirate day too?

=20

The noise is kicking up a bit even on 500 but will be looking your way thi=
s evening on WSPR and the speaker open for Mal.

=20

Laurence

KL1 X in BY3A

OM89UA China.

=20

=20

=20

=20
> From: james.moritz@btopenworld.com
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 11:09:06 +0100
> Subject: LF: Re: 500 still in use?
>=20
> Dear Laurence, LF Group,
>=20
> The 468kHz frequency does seem to be slated for Chinese Navtex broadcast=
s -=20
> apparently 424kHz is being used for Japanese language Navtex too. This=
 seems=20
> to coincide with a general shift to using 490kHz for Navtex weather=20
> forecasts instead of "local language" as it was originally supposed to=
 be.
>=20
> I beleive the international agreements relating to Navtex say that "no=
 more=20
> than 1kW" should be used for Navtex broadcasts, and then only under=20
> exceptional circumstances, in order to minimise mutual QRM. but if you=
 look=20
> at manufacturer's TX offerings, you will struggle to find one less than=
 1kW.=20
> Fun for DXers, I suppose, but not so clever when you actually need the=
 info!
>=20
> Several years ago when a 500kHz allocation was first mooted, I spent som=
e=20
> time listening to 500kHz, and most nights used to hear Italian coast=20
> stations - IAR was one I think. They would appear on 500k and tell you=
 to=20
> QSY to some nearby frequency. When you did so they would broadcast a lon=
g=20
> list of ships' callsigns, I presume who they had traffic for. But I neve=
r=20
> did hear any 2-way operating, and got the impression the whole thing was=
=20
> computer generated. I haven't heard these coast stations since about 200=
3,=20
> or maybe before.
>=20
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>=20
> ----- Original Message -----=20
> From: "Laurence BY3A-KL1X China" <hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2009 9:40 AM
> Subject: LF: 500 still in use?
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> Im asked whether 500kcs or kHz etc is still in use here and yes it is -=
=20
> heres a TTT TTT Nav warning on 500.00 Khz at Hr +18 from XSV Tianjin rad=
io=20
> about 15 miles from me just a few mins ago.
>=20
>=20
>=20
> I dont hear Ship to Ship or Ship to Shore on MF, or should I say I haven=
t=20
> yet and none of my ships or platforms are equipped here, but the Chinese=
=20
> announced back in 2007 that 486 Khz (assigned) is to be used for a "Nati=
onal=20
> language channel" - Im not sure if this relates to safety traffic/navtex=
 or=20
> gen bsct - or whatever, but Tianjin is just increasing its output power=
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> that freq to 5Kw, and dont I know it.
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Thanks Jim - I have to&nbsp;keep tabs myself at work whats actually happen=
ing in this domain and theatre (in more ways than one) -&nbsp;I guess Ill=
 see the next release of a Chinese text Navtex receiver probably&nbsp;in=
 a couple of weeks down the local market.&nbsp;The interesting thing is th=
e guys down the road are actually testing on 484 not 486 and&nbsp;we have=
 this lovely asssigned versus carrier debacle&nbsp;that crops up now and=
 again - some say 2 some 2.1 Khz off&nbsp;set etc etc. I didnt go into tha=
t&nbsp;with the station manager&nbsp;there but its&nbsp;going to be intere=
sting - I still recall of lot of my&nbsp;miltary radio days with the PRC=
 series used to keep my head scratching a lot on what I was really transmi=
tting on...still do.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
I picked up the China bit from<BR>
<A href=3D"http://www.iho.shom.fr/COMMITTEES/CPRNW/CPRNW9/CPRNW9-3-3-1.pdf=
">http://www.iho.shom.fr/COMMITTEES/CPRNW/CPRNW9/CPRNW9-3-3-1.pdf</A><BR>
and they cite here and else where the issues of limiting power cos of co=
 channel.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
My local Navtex station is some 100 miles from here and luckily theyve got=
 the tuning right - it can be a bit of a mess, and I recall some of the aw=
ful tuned Navtex transmissions that plagued me in Singapore marine trying=
 to listen on 500 - <BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
I do miss awfully the musical and not so musical A2 sounds when I was at=
 sea....Argh Jim lad - isnt it talk like a pirate day too?<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
The noise is kicking up a bit even on 500 but will be looking your way thi=
s evening on WSPR and the speaker open for Mal.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Laurence<BR>
KL1 X in BY3A<BR>
OM89UA China.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>&gt; From: james.moritz@btopenworld.com<BR>&gt; To: rsgb_lf_grou=
p@blacksheep.org<BR>&gt; Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 11:09:06 +0100<BR>&gt; Sub=
ject: LF: Re: 500 still in use?<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Dear Laurence, LF Group,<=
BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; The 468kHz frequency does seem to be slated for Chinese=
 Navtex broadcasts - <BR>&gt; apparently 424kHz is being used for Japanese=
 language Navtex too. This seems <BR>&gt; to coincide with a general shift=
 to using 490kHz for Navtex weather <BR>&gt; forecasts instead of "local=
 language" as it was originally supposed to be.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; I beleive=
 the international agreements relating to Navtex say that "no more <BR>&gt=
; than 1kW" should be used for Navtex broadcasts, and then only under <BR>=
&gt; exceptional circumstances, in order to minimise mutual QRM. but if yo=
u look <BR>&gt; at manufacturer's TX offerings, you will struggle to find=
 one less than 1kW. <BR>&gt; Fun for DXers, I suppose, but not so clever=
 when you actually need the info!<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Several years ago when=
 a 500kHz allocation was first mooted, I spent some <BR>&gt; time listenin=
g to 500kHz, and most nights used to hear Italian coast <BR>&gt; stations=
 - IAR was one I think. They would appear on 500k and tell you to <BR>&gt;=
 QSY to some nearby frequency. When you did so they would broadcast a long=
 <BR>&gt; list of ships' callsigns, I presume who they had traffic for. Bu=
t I never <BR>&gt; did hear any 2-way operating, and got the impression th=
e whole thing was <BR>&gt; computer generated. I haven't heard these coast=
 stations since about 2003, <BR>&gt; or maybe before.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Che=
ers, Jim Moritz<BR>&gt; 73 de M0BMU<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; ----- Original Messag=
e ----- <BR>&gt; From: "Laurence BY3A-KL1X China" &lt;hellozerohellozero@h=
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nt: Saturday, September 19, 2009 9:40 AM<BR>&gt; Subject: LF: 500 still in=
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r 500kcs or kHz etc is still in use here and yes it is - <BR>&gt; heres a=
 TTT TTT Nav warning on 500.00 Khz at Hr +18 from XSV Tianjin radio <BR>&g=
t; about 15 miles from me just a few mins ago.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;=
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 I havent <BR>&gt; yet and none of my ships or platforms are equipped here=
, but the Chinese <BR>&gt; announced back in 2007 that 486 Khz (assigned)=
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Hello Dave and LF,

thank's for report and info !

73 de Gus SM6BHZ

----- Original Message ----- 
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> WSPR report of Gus's signal this evening.
> 
> Also looking for G3XBM, but static levels re very high tonight.
> 
> 2255  -6  0.6   0.503526  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
> 
> 73m Dave G3WCB IO91RM n Windsor S.E. England
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James Cowburn wrote:

> 
> For now I am back on WSPR 502.4

James,

I just checked on the WSPRNET site, and sorted all your spots by 
distance - looks like you made it the Shetland twice a couple of days ago.


Searched in my ALL_MEPT file and found:

090908 0042   2 -29  1.5   0.503947  G7NKS IO92 30

090908 0350   4 -27  1.2   0.503948  G7NKS IO92 30


WSRPNET calculates this as 916km

Best DX?

Cheers,

John
GM4SLV
Clousta
Shetland
IP90gg





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Dear All,

Having now watched England beat Croatia I have just fired up the G7NKS=
 WSPR
set up.  Still sub sub optimal but thanks to Lee MOLMH I now have some
additional ideas on antennas to add to those from MOFMT and Dr. Moritz

Best regards

Dr. Jim Cowburn G7NKS



-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT
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Hi Lubos,

It looks like there is only Gus & me on tonight, thanks for your repor=
t.

You can have your decodes uploaded to the WSPR Spots Page at :-

http://www.wsprnet.org/meptspots.php

by ticking the box "Upload Spots" on the program window.

73,

Gary - G4WGT.

2009/9/9 Lubos OK2BVG <bvgbob@hotmail.com>:
> Hello LF!
> I changed my aerials and the results is more better. I just see SM6B=
HZ and
> G4WGT.
>
> 1940=A0 -3=A0 1.0=A0=A0 1.503951=A0 0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 1942 -29=A0 2.3=A0=A0 1.503911=A0 0 G4WGT IO83 27
> 1946=A0 -2=A0 1.2=A0=A0 1.503951=A0 0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
>
> Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS
>
> ________________________________
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Now off WSPR due no traffic @ 13.30 BST

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My 500kHz WSPR beacon is back on again this evening and overnight. Reports
and screenshots would be appreciated.

I tried to make a small improvement today but what I tried made things
worse. Suspect a BIG change to the antenna/ground system will be needed to
up the ERP. This will have to wait a few weeks now.

73s
Roger  G3XBM

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My 500kHz WSPR beacon is back on again this evening and overnight. Reports=
 and screenshots would be appreciated.<br><br>I tried to make a small impr=
ovement today but what I tried made things worse. Suspect a BIG change to=
 the antenna/ground system will be needed to up the ERP. This will have to=
 wait a few weeks now.<br>
<br>73s<br clear=3D"all">Roger=A0 G3XBM<br><br>---------------------------=
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Anderey,
thank's report and info !
Yesterday 21.30 i run 10 W erp, today i run only 1 W ERP and that is 
probobly the reason !

73 de Gus SM6BHZ


----- Original Message ----- 
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> Hello Gus,
> Today bad propagation to Moscow. Yesterday it was much better.
> The most good your signal was yesterday at 21.32:
>
> 2132  1  -0.5   0.503931  SM6BHZ  JO57 40
>
> 73
> Andrey 





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Dear LF Group,

I still haven't replied to Fritz Raab, W1FR, regarding the WD2XSH US band 
plan which he is apparently coordinating - you may remember I posted the US 
proposals, which he sent me, a couple of weeks ago, but have not received 
any comments from other UK/Eu stations. I think I should reply with 
something, so now is your chance... The proposal relates to the US 
allocation extending to 495 - 515kHz, and how that would fit in with current 
UK and Eu beacon operations. The content of the e-mail is below. The issue 
is that they would like to make a 501.0 - 501.2kHz WSPR sub-band, to fit in 
with the various other proposals. Various other types of beacon modes are 
allocated frequencies outside the UK/EI/ON 501 - 504kHz range, while 501.2 - 
504kHz is allocated to "general comms". Retaining frequencies just below 
504kHz would divide their "general comms" band in two

I don't think there is anything preventing us from doing this, it is just 
the inconvenience of turning the current band "upside-down". Let me know 
what you think!

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU

>>>From W1FR:

Greetings:

     Thanks for the comments on the band plan, passed
along to me by W1XP.

     About a month ago, a modification to the WD2XSH
license was approved that adds stations and gives us
access to 495 - 510 kHz.  Perhaps half of the 42 stations
will eventually get on the air.  Because of NDBs, some
stations are limited to parts of this band and we will
have two calling frequencies and two beacon bands.

     A draft of our new band plan follows.  Of particular
interest is WSPR.  As I see it, our options are:

(a)  501.0-501.2:  Conveniently on one side of our comms
     band.  Will not overload WSPR receivers near 504 kHz.
     Apparently in EU CW-beacon band.

(b)  503.8-504.0:  Apparently same as what you guys are
     using.  Cuts our comms band in the middle.  Nearby
     stations may overload US receivers trying to hear EUs.

(c)  503.9-504.1:  Same problems as above with cutting
     comms band in two and overloading.  Conveniently
     straddles both G/ON/EI and Canadian bands.

     Any further thoughts you may have will be
appreciated.


73, Fritz, W1FR

Frederick H. (Fritz) Raab, Ph.D.
GREEN MOUNTAIN RADIO RESEARCH COMPANY
77 Vermont Avenue, Fort Ethan Allen
Colchester, Vermont 05446  USA
Tel./Fax.:  +1 (802) 655-9670  Home:  +1 (802) 862-0997
E-mail:  f.raab@ieee.org

BASIC BAND PLAN for WD2XSH

f, kHz          USE

495.0 - 495.1   QRSS, 1-Hz spacing, 40 stations
495.1 - 495.6   CW/PSK beacons midwest, 100-Hz spacing, 10 stations
495.6 - 499.0   Comms
497.5           Calling frequency
499.0 - 501.0   Reserved for heritage stations and special events
501.0 - 501.2   WSPR
501.2 - 505.0   Comms
505.0 - 505.2   DX window
505.2 - 508.5   Comms
507.5           Calling frequency
508.5 - 510.0   CW/PSK beacons east, south, west, Pacific, 50-Hz spacing, 30
stations
510.0 - 511.0   WE2XGR beacons
511.0 - 515.0   WE2XGR SSB and wideband modes


OTHER IN-BAND SIGNALS

503.976         NEED LSB
505.0           NEED carrier
506.024         NEED USB

508.976         OF/FA LSB
510.0           OF/FA carrier
511.024         OF/FA USB



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Lubos,

   Thanks for the capture.
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Dear LF Group,

Thanks to all for the overnight reports/decodes. I also set my RX to listen 
for WD2XES on 137.577k, but no decodes here - perhaps not suprising 
considering the level of QRN!

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I will beacon WSPR this evening QRG 503,925 kHz on request.

73 de Gus SM6BHZ

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Hi Claude
I copy last night signal on 137,740kHz. Its yours?
Vy 73!
Marcin SQ2BXI


hi Marcin and LF
GM is f8boj error frequence in qrss3 change frequency for 137740hz  =
 qsl...!
qsl...F8boj Claude jn16wa----- Original Message -----
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Subject: Re: LF: Re: What signal on 137,778kHz


Hello Jean Pierre
Your grabber regularly copy my signal:
http://www.sp2kds.pl/images/stories/f1afj.jpg
Vy 73!
Marcin SQ2BXI

Hello Marcin ,

Tnx for info , my antenna are at QTF 295=B0 (USA)

73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

Marcin a =E9crit :
> Dear Jean Pierre, LF
> It is HF70W QRSS 60 signal.
> Vy 73!
> Marcin SQ2BXI
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>> Hello LF'ers ,
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>> I copy on 137,778 unidentified signal ?
>> 22:00 =3D> 23:00 utc ( see on picture )
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>> 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj
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Roger Lapthorn wrote:
>  Overnight tonight I shall be running the WSPR beacon again in the hope that
> a few more people may spot my tiny signal.

Roger,

Still looking. I do think you'll make it to Shetland one night - it's 
still very early in the LF season, conditions will get better over the 
next copule of months.

Would you also like to try 160m one night, I notice your best DX on 160m 
WSPR is a few km short of the distance bewteen us (which is 895km) I'm 
happy to listen on any band, at any time!

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G/M Jim, Gus, LF!
Full reports till 7 up to 14 sep 2009 with all screen-shots:
http://qrss.nm.ru/500.html

Roman

> Hi Gus, Jim, LF!
>
> Into my location KO85ro today:
> 1926 -24 1.2 0.503925 0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
> 1932 -26 1.1 0.503925 0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
> 1938 -27 1.1 0.503925 1 SM6BHZ JO57 30
> 1958 -16 1.1 0.503925 0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2014 -15 1.0 0.503925 0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2022 -15 0.9 0.503925 0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2028 -15 0.9 0.503925 0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2032 -13 0.9 0.503925 0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2038 -20 0.5 0.503925 0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2046 -17 1.2 0.503925 0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2052 -25 0.3 0.503925 0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2056 -19 1.0 0.503925 0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2102 -22 1.1 0.503925 0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2110 -27 -0.1 0.503925 0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2124 -22 0.7 0.503925 0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2130 -15 1.3 0.503925 0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2134 -22 1.0 0.503925 0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2140 -19 1.1 0.503925 0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2146 -15 1.2 0.503925 0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2152 -20 1.3 0.503925 0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2200 -28 1.3 0.503925 0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2206 -23 1.2 0.503925 0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2210 -14 1.2 0.503925 0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2216 -15 1.3 0.503925 0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2224 -20 1.3 0.503925 0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2228 -17 1.2 0.503925 0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2234 -29 1.3 0.503840 0 M0BMU IO91 33
> 2236 -24 1.5 0.503925 0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2242 -25 1.5 0.503925 0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2246 -17 1.5 0.503925 0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2252 -26 1.2 0.503840 0 M0BMU IO91 33
> 2254 -25 1.5 0.503925 0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2256 -27 1.1 0.503840 0 M0BMU IO91 33
> 2302 -31 1.5 0.503840 0 M0BMU IO91 33
> 2308 -23 1.8 0.503925 0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
> 2310 -27 1.4 0.503840 0 M0BMU IO91 33
> 2314 -28 1.4 0.503840 0 M0BMU IO91 33
> 2318 -25 1.4 0.503840 0 M0BMU IO91 33
> 2322 -26 1.7 0.503925 0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>
> Glad to see M0BMU.
> it was more wonderful prop last monday.
> All reports next into 500-part qrss.nm.ru
>
> 73!
> Roman
>
> > Hi Gus, Jim, LF,
> >
> > 1920 -23 0.9 0.503926 SM6BHZ JO57 30
> > 1932 -16 1.0 0.503926 SM6BHZ JO57 30
> > 1938 -15 1.1 0.503927 SM6BHZ JO57 30
> > 1948 -10 0.9 0.503926 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> > 1958 -8 0.9 0.503926 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> > 2002 -26 0.8 0.503841 M0BMU IO91 33
> > 2004 -2 1.0 0.503926 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> > 2006 -27 0.6 0.503841 M0BMU IO91 33
> > 2014 -26 1.4 0.503841 M0BMU IO91 33
> > 2014 -14 0.8 0.503927 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> > 2018 -22 0.8 0.503841 M0BMU IO91 33
> > 2022 -6 1.0 0.503927 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> > 2028 -6 0.8 0.503926 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> > 2032 -21 0.8 0.503841 M0BMU IO91 33
> > 2032 -5 0.9 0.503926 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> > 2038 -8 1.0 0.503926 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> > 2046 -3 1.0 0.503926 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> > 2050 -29 0.8 0.503841 M0BMU IO91 33
> > 2052 -9 0.7 0.503926 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> > 2056 -30 0.6 0.503841 M0BMU IO91 33
> > 2056 -9 0.8 0.503927 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> > 2102 -24 0.5 0.503841 M0BMU IO91 33
> > 2102 -9 0.8 0.503927 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> > 2108 -21 0.6 0.503841 M0BMU IO91 33
> > 2110 -7 0.9 0.503926 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> > 2116 -20 0.6 0.503841 M0BMU IO91 33
> > 2116 -15 0.6 0.503926 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> > 2122 -24 2.1 0.503841 M0BMU IO91 33
> > 2124 -7 0.8 0.503926 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> >
> > 73
> > Andrey


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Just set up new Ant system, hopefully a lot less lossy so I should not be as
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Jim, LF

The last decoded data this morning:

2009-09-11 05:49:46 >WOLF10  -r 7997.017 -f 1100 -t 3 -d 5 -w 0.0000
t:  24 f: 0.286 a: 0.1 dp: 73.5 ci: 1 cj:  0 MBEZF3 WAHD970J ?
t:  48 f: 0.286 a: 0.1 dp: 72.9 ci:14 cj:471 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t:  96 f: 0.285 a: 0.2 dp: 72.0 ci:14 cj:471 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t: 192 f: 0.283 pm:46.74 jm: 19 q:  5.1  6.0 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t: 288 f: 0.283 pm:85.82 jm: 19 q:  7.9  9.0 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t: 384 f: 0.283 pm:130.1 jm: 19 q:  9.9 10.4 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t: 480 f: 0.283 pm:159.1 jm: 19 q: 10.9 11.7 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t: 576 f: 0.283 pm:171.5 jm: 19 q: 11.5 12.3 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -



Looks like I've done this one to death now until some real DX or real 
QRP station comes on - hi!

Cheers,

John


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Hi John lf Group
Thank you for the controversy after modificaltion transformer impedance 
advocated by Michel F5Wk
I've tested the system 48 v 3.5A appears it is no major problem to present 
.... good evening everyone
Claude F8boj
Thank you for your information about your conditions of reception of 137 kHz
73 s
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> At 1530z.
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> F5VLF
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Hello all,

Nice signals from all WSPRers

I see there's a disagreement amongst you about whether to report ERP or 
TX power. Is there an agreed standard for this on MF/LF?

Jim, Gary & Gus seem to report ERP and Graham reports TX power. This 
makes Graham's spots look poorer than they should be.

I remember some discussion a few months ago about this, but can't 
remember the concensus that was reached. It would be good though if you 
all did the same thing, to gove a consistent approach and to allow 
better comparison between S/N, Distance and Power.

Cheers,

John
GM4SLV

Gus wrote:
> Dear Jim and group,
> 
> this evening i run WSPR beacon with abt 10 dB more power.


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At 1928z.

F5VLF




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Signals from Mori (JH1GVY) were copied here overnight on Friday (09/19/09 
1200-1300Z) during his short beaconing session. Unfortunately he was only 
able to get a few elements of QRSS120 off before high winds forced his 
balloon-supported vertical to the ground. By good fortune, Laurence, 
listening in China, was also able to capture Mori's signal, which allowed me 
to confirm reception by comparing the time and frequency signatures of both 
captures, including the slight downward chirp on his signal.

Apparently Mori is operating from a portable location and appears to be 
generating a good signal. Further testing will hopefully yield a complete ID 
from his station.

The distance between here and his location, north of Tokyo, is very 
comparable to the east-coast /European path I believe, at around 4600 miles. 
The path to Japan from western NA seems much more forgiving than the brutal 
long-haul down to VK / ZL. This, coupled with a huge amateur 'homebrew' 
population in Japan, should make for some interesting JA-NA Trans-Pacific LF 
work, once we here in NA get full-time operating privileges on LF.

Although Japan has only had 2200m for a brief time, there appears to be much 
interest and activity already. Mori is to be congratulated for getting the 
first JA LF signal over to NA - hopefully many more will follow.

His web site, although all in Japanese, shows his level of interest and 
commitment and makes for interesting study.

http://www003.upp.so-net.ne.jp/JH1GVY/lf-top.html

A copy of my screen capture can be seen here:

http://members.shaw.ca/ve7sl/mori

73

Steve / VE7SL / Mayne Island, B.C.

WEB - "The VE7SL Radio Notebook":  http://members.shaw.ca/ve7sl 



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Henny,

    Thank you, one string is all that I sent last night!
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2009/9/23 henny van elst <cpm@planet.nl>:
> Hello Warren,LF
> Capture one string,
> Henny pa3cpm
> best 73s


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Excellent Steve - Im sure he will be delighted with that.

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Thanks
=20


From: vk2zto@djirra.com
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Subject: LF: Re: More JH1JVY




G'day Laurence,
=20
I have a capture of the GV beacon at this link:
=20
http://www.djirra.com/low_frequency/log/index.htm
=20
Look for the entry at the top dated 18/09/09 and click on the thumbnail.
=20
73 Steve VK2ZTO (also VK2XV)

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Excellent Steve&nbsp;- Im sure he will be delighted&nbsp;with that.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Thanks<BR>&nbsp;<BR>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>G'day Laurence,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>I have a capture of the GV beacon at this link:</F=
ONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Look for the entry at the top dated 18/09/09 and=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>73 Steve VK2ZTO (also VK2XV)</FONT></DIV>
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* mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net> [Fri, 25 Sep 2009 19:21:43 
+0100]:
> Nw DX G3KEV ON 502.57 Kcs QSX 7033 CW AND QRS3
> DE G3KEV

You are REAL Radio Amateur, OM!
I'm admire you!


--
Roman RW3ADB.


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Still 599 roman on 7033 and also lsn for YO2IS
MAL G3KEV

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>* mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net> [Sat, 19 Sep 2009 20:37:34
> +0100]:
>> Hi
>> Roman
>> Tnx O copy report, vy gud condx on 7033 fm Russia pse call again for
> qso
>> mal/g3kev
>
> Tried after every cycle of your tx.
>
> Only trace on 502.7 at moment.
>
> Roman
>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Roman RW3ADB" <rw3adb@rambler.ru>
>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2009 8:23 PM
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>>
>>
>> > Hi Mal, LF!
>> > Copy you OOO 502.570, but you are do not heard me on 40m.
>> >
>> > grabber is on 502.0 dial
>> >
>> > Roman
>> >
>> >> Now in CQ DX MODE 502.57 and QSX 7033 KCS for xband QSO'S
>> >> G3KEV
>> >
>>
>>
>>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Roman RW3ADB.
>


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Hi Roman
Look out for my signal this evening starting 1800 utc 502.57 kcs qsx 7033 
kcs for xband qso
de mal/g3kev

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Hi Laurence!
100% UA4WPF! fine business!
I'm read his message in RUS-DW yahoo-group.

>>Äŕţ ěŕ˙ę â íî÷ü ń 18 íŕ 19 ńĺíň˙áđ˙ 2009 ă.
-I can make an beacon at 18 up to 19 sep 2009 tonight.
>>beacon (W_--) DFCW 240 F=137.77725 18 - 02 UTC Loc.LO66PU
>>73!
>>Anatol
>>UA4WPF

Roman

* Laurence BY3A-KL1X China <hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com> [Fri, 18 Sep
2009 14:14:37 -0800]:
>
> Sorry that should have been 137.7772 ish  - too early in the
> morning....of course it could be a "W" !
>
>
>
> Wheres the coffee....
>
>
>
> From: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 13:43:19 -0800
> Subject: LF: 137.772
>
>
>
> Good early morning - Who is M on this freq out to my West? As it gets
> daylight a Loran line will appear close to this freq and is just (just
> visible)
>
> DCF39 is S7 this mng :-))
>
> Laurence in BY3A OM89UA
>
>
>
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On 4 Sep 2009 at 21:48, James Moritz wrote:

> Dear LF Group,
> 
> The M0BMU WSPR beacon is running again tonight 0n 503.975kHz (502.4k
> "dial frequency"). Any reports are very welcome. Also a very strong
> signal from SM6BHZ tonight.
> 
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU 
> 
> 

Well prompted by all the mails on here I have just installed the WSPR 
software and had a listen to your signals this morning.

I noticed a couple of things which might explain why I was not getting 
any decodes:

1. On switch on of my K2 and Datong UC1 which I use for 500kHz receive 
there is a noticeable drift, initially as high as 10Hz in the 2 minute 
sampling period but eventually dropping to within 1Hz. I could not find 
a spec as to how stable the receiver needs to be for WSPR. I believe 
most of this drift is the 116MHz downconverter crystal in the UC1, 
which is a big limitation to using it as a serious 500kHz receiver.
2. Although I synchronised my computer clock to the time standards, and 
it seems just a fraction of a second different from my 60kHz clock, 
your transmissions seemed to be starting a second or two early, before 
my WSPR started receiving, and finishing at around the 1.52 minutes 
point. Is your clock out, or is this how it is supposed to work?
3. You are of course s9+ at this range, and show as bright red on 
WSPR's spectrogram. Hardly 'weak signal'. Does the software cope with 
strong signals or does it overload?

The only decode I got was for 'C1N/NU0RWS' in one of your non-transmit 
periods. With things like that coming out of white noise it doesn't 
give me much confidence in some of the other things the WSPR folks are 
bragging about....

It does though work OK on 30m and I have decoded a few Eu stations so I 
would have thought I would have been able to copy Jim.

I guess this will be another few days little play before I go back to 
more useful things...

73 Dave G3YMC


I have received a few Eu stations on 30m
http://www.davesergeant.com



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Dear Roger, LF Group,

The "WOLF GUI" software can be downloaded from 
http://freenet-homepage.de/dl4yhf/wolf/index.html. Intallation is just a 
matter of unzipping the zip file. If you then run the WOLF program, you will 
need to enter the WOLF config menu and set the centre frequency in "receive 
options" to the audio pitch coming out of your receiver - if you are 
receiving in CW mode, this will just be the CW pitch, if in USB mode it will 
be the difference between the "dial" frequency and 503.500kHz. You may also 
need to set the receive frequency tolerance - WOLF expects very accurate TX 
and RX frequencies, so if the error of you RX frequency is likely to be more 
than the default 1Hz, you will want to increase this tolerance. For 
receiving strong signals, averaging over many frames is unnecessary, so you 
would want to reduce "Nr of frames" to, say, 3. Then it is simply a matter 
of returning to the main screen and selecting "RX" by clicking on the button 
near the top left of the box, and waiting while various cryptic numbers, and 
eventually, hopefully, the decoded message, appear.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU

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> *Newbie help please.....*



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Hi Laurence!

504 are the same in Moscow:
http://qrss.nm.ru/grabber.html
but WSPR decoded!
http://rw3adb.narod.ru/2009/7sep2009_503.5kHz/BHZ.jpg
http://rw3adb.narod.ru/2009/7sep2009_503.5kHz/BHZ2.jpg

Roman

* Laurence BY3A-KL1X China <hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com> [Sun, 6 Sep 
2009 13:05:13 -0800]:
>
> That carrier on 504 and associated mod is pushing sidebands into the
> WSPR section quite strongly here. Grabber running.
>
>
>
> Laurence in BY
>
> http://kl1x.com/2dx00000.jpg
>
>
> The link to my server was really slow last night but appears better 
here
> this mng.
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Hi Jim,

      2009-09-18 21:30   M0BMU   0.503840   +16   0   IO91vr   2   DL4RAJ   JN68kj   1003   107
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107
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       2009-09-18 21:06   M0BMU   0.503840   +15   0   IO91vr   2   DL4RAJ   JN68kj   1003   107
       2009-09-18 21:00   M0BMU   0.503840   +15   0   IO91vr   2   DL4RAJ   JN68kj   1003   107
       2009-09-18 20:52   M0BMU   0.503840   +15   0   IO91vr   2   DL4RAJ   JN68kj   1003   107
       2009-09-18 20:46   M0BMU   0.503840   +15   0   IO91vr   2   DL4RAJ   JN68kj   1003   107


cl now
73
Clemens
DL4RAJ 

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Hi Jim, LF,



your WSPR on 137.0 kHz was received fairly well in Nuernberg throughout th=
e night. Often the SNR in the QRN appeared marginal even though the trace=
 on the grabber screen looked quite good - this is due WSPR fed by linear=
 audio containing all the impulsive noise, whereas the SpecLab screen did=
 have the software noise blanker engaged.



The frequency incidentally suits me well as my grabber receiver is sitting=
 on 135.5 kHz USB anyway, eliminating the need of another frequency conver=
sion and a second PC running WSPR. I'll just leave it like that for a coup=
le of days, so any possible spots between 136.9 and 137.1 will hopefully=
 be uploaded.



Best 73,

Markus, DF6NM
=C2=A0=20


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Von: James Moritz <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>
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Verschickt: Mo., 21. Sept. 2009, 9:04
Thema: Re: LF: Re: WSPR 137.0k



Dear LF Group,=C2=A0
=C2=A0
Thanks to all for the overnight reports/decodes. I also set my RX to liste=
n for WD2XES on 137.577k, but no decodes here - perhaps not suprising cons=
idering the level of QRN!=C2=A0
=C2=A0
Cheers, Jim Moritz=C2=A0
73 de M0BMU=C2=A0
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<div>Hi Jim, LF,</div>


<div>&nbsp;</div>


<div>your WSPR on 137.0 kHz was received fairly well in Nuernberg througho=
ut the night. Often the SNR in the QRN appeared marginal even though the=
 trace on the grabber screen looked quite good - this is due WSPR fed by=
 linear audio containing all the impulsive noise, whereas the SpecLab scre=
en did have the software noise blanker engaged.</div>


<div>&nbsp;</div>


<div>The frequency incidentally suits me well as my grabber receiver is si=
tting on 135.5 kHz USB anyway, eliminating the need of another frequency=
 conversion and a second PC running WSPR. I'll just leave it like that for=
 a couple of days, so any possible spots between 136.9 and 137.1 will hope=
fully be uploaded.</div>


<div>&nbsp;</div>


<div>Best 73,</div>


<div>Markus, DF6NM<br>
&nbsp; <br>
<br>
<br>
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Von: James Moritz &lt;james.moritz@btopenworld.com&gt;<br>
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Verschickt: Mo., 21. Sept. 2009, 9:04<br>
Thema: Re: LF: Re: WSPR 137.0k<br>
<br>
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 Sans-Serif; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff">Dear LF Group,&nbsp;<br>
&nbsp;<br>
Thanks to all for the overnight reports/decodes. I also set my RX to liste=
n for WD2XES on 137.577k, but no decodes here - perhaps not suprising cons=
idering the level of QRN!&nbsp;<br>
&nbsp;<br>
Cheers, Jim Moritz&nbsp;<br>
73 de M0BMU&nbsp;<br>
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Hello Jordan,

Regarding Q, I have used potcores, but this is not necessary at all.
Standard moulded rf chokes, those that look like resistors, give excellent
results.

I have found that the bandwidth can be so narrow that it was possible to
peak the individual sidebands of a 400 Hz modulated non directional beacon
at 400 kHz. as said before, decreasing the gain broadens the response to a
more practical bandwidth.

73,
Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt



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> Andrey - still very noisy over this side from Pacific storms (30 over)  and only traces seen on your assigned freq. 73 Laurence 
> in BY3A

Hi Laurence,
Many thanks for info!

73 



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Hello Jordan,

Sorry for the delay, I just forgot to answer your question.

In the attachment you will find the circuit diagram of a tuneable  
pre-amplifier.
I have build several of these and the frequency response is quite narrow.
The circuit has ample gain and using the rf-gain control, the tuned  
circuit is "damped", which broadens the response. The gain is realised by  
the impedance transformation of the tuned circuit, which results in  
considerable voltage gain. The amplifier is a voltage follower with an  
output impedance of 50 ohm.

Best regards,
Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt

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Hi Dave, LF,

> Dave Sergeant wrote:
>> 3. You are of course s9+ at this range, and show as bright red on WSPR'=
s
>> spectrogram. Hardly 'weak signal'. Does the software cope with strong
>> signals or does it overload?

I get about 25% decode from Graham G0NBD who is about 35-40 miles from
me, all weaker signals decode OK. As it is a weak signal mode the
stronger signals must be a cause of non-decodes.

73,

Gary - G4WGT.

2009/9/5 John P-G <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk>:
> Dave, LF,
>
>
> Dave Sergeant wrote:
>
>>
>> Well prompted by all the mails on here I have just installed the WSPR
>> software and had a listen to your signals this morning.
>>
>> I noticed a couple of things which might explain why I was not getting=
 any
>> decodes:
>>
>> 1. On switch on of my K2 and Datong UC1 which I use for 500kHz receive
>> there is a noticeable drift, initially as high as 10Hz in the 2 minute
>> sampling period but eventually dropping to within 1Hz. I could not find=
 a
>> spec as to how stable the receiver needs to be for WSPR. I believe most=
 of
>> this drift is the 116MHz downconverter crystal in the UC1, which is a=
 big
>> limitation to using it as a serious 500kHz receiver.
>
> The frequency needs to be reasonably stable - the WSPR software will rep=
ort
> the frequency shift seen during a reception period as "Drift" and I've=
 seen
> a few reports of 1 or 2 Hz. This implies that it will work with a 1-2Hz
> drift across the 2 minute period. I'm not sure what the absolute limit=
 is
> though.
>
>> 2. Although I synchronised my computer clock to the time standards, and=
 it
>> seems just a fraction of a second different from my 60kHz clock, your
>> transmissions seemed to be starting a second or two early, before my WS=
PR
>> started receiving, and finishing at around the 1.52 minutes point. Is=
 your
>> clock out, or is this how it is supposed to work?
>
> My PC is running NTP and is (hopefully fairly well locked to NTP time)=
 and
> WSPR reports =A0"DT" (Delta Time) of +/- 0.1 Seconds on Jim's signals,=
 so I
> guess that he and I are in agreement of what the correct time is, and he=
's
> getting lots of spots reported from other stations, so I don't think his
> timing is an issue. His trace on the waterfall in WSPR sits nicely in th=
e
> 2-minute window.
>
> I've seen successful decodes with DTs of up to 2 seconds.
>
> The SNR/clock rate issue (see below) might muddy the waters =A0on absolu=
te
> timing accuracy though?
>
>> 3. You are of course s9+ at this range, and show as bright red on WSPR'=
s
>> spectrogram. Hardly 'weak signal'. Does the software cope with strong
>> signals or does it overload?
>
> This might be significant though.
>
> I've seen may times that very strong signals fail to decode whereas much
> weaker ones from the same station (eg during QSB or after reduction in=
 TX
> power) decode fine. There is one theory that it's to do with the accurac=
y of
> the soundcard clocks. With weakish signals some of the transmission is=
 lost
> in the noise and the FEC will kick in and allow a decode by "filling in=
 the
> gaps". With very strong signals no data is missed, and due to clock rate
> differnces the decode fails because the received bits are outide the
> tolerance of the decoder, timewise (A very poor description, sorry - And=
y
> JNT will explain better).
>
>
> This could imply that either yours or Jim's soundcard is not up to the=
 job.
> Since Jim has had spots reported from close stations with SNRs of +9dB=
 I
> guess this implies Jim's timing must be okay. I've seen this effect kick=
 in
> when signals start to go into the positive SNR region.
>
>
>> The only decode I got was for 'C1N/NU0RWS' in one of your non-transmit
>> periods.
>
> That's a false decode and might indicate that you have a noise problem.=
 I've
> seen similar gobbledegook decodes from people with high noise levels.
>
> HTH
>
> I'm receiving Jim consistently, in daylight, at -21dB SNR at 953km dista=
nce
> - on a Wellbrook ALA1530 loop.
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> John
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Wow !!! a lot of stations this morning.
 
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HB9ASB
M0BMU
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is it just me or is this msg stuck in a loop
I keep getting it over and over

Bob K3DJC

On Sun, 20 Sep 2009 06:47:52 -0400 <jrusgrove@comcast.net> writes:
Andy

K1JT, AA1A, W1XP, W1VD and W1TAG have been watching for EU WSPR. All
display correct station information.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Andy Talbot 
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org 
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 6:23 AM
Subject: Re: LF: G4JNT WSPR


K1JT and A1AA certainly appear to report a lot of Dx WSPR spots :-)
I do wish users would eithe rset their callsign / locator properly or
turn off automatic upload.

Best 'real' report last night was > 2000km, a TF station

Andy
www.g4jnt.com



 
On 20/09/2009, John P-G <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk> wrote: 
Andy, LF

Many spots last night - here's just one of them

2352  -6  0.4   0.503851  0 G4JNT IO90 23

And I wasn't even the best DX!

Cheers,

John
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<DIV>is it just me or is this msg stuck in a loop</DIV>
<DIV>I keep getting it over and over</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Bob K3DJC</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>On Sun, 20 Sep 2009 06:47:52 -0400 &lt;<A  href=3D"mailto:jrusgrove@c=
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<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr  style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 10px; MARGIN-LEFT: 10px; BOR=
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Andy</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>K1JT, AA1A, W1XP, W1VD and&nbsp;W1TAG=
 have been=20
  watching for EU WSPR. All display correct station information.</FONT></D=
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Jay W1VD&nbsp; WD2XNS&nbsp; WE2XGR/2</F=
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    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A      title=3Drsgb_lf_gro=
up@blacksheep.org      href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_l=
f_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
    </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, September 20, 200=
9 6:23=20
    AM</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: G4JNT WSPR</DI=
V>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV>K1JT and A1AA certainly appear to report a lot of Dx WSPR spots=
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    :-)</DIV>
    <DIV>I do wish users would eithe rset their callsign / locator properl=
y or=20
    turn off automatic upload.</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>Best 'real' report last night was &gt; 2000km, a TF station</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>Andy</DIV>
    <DIV><A href=3D"http://www.g4jnt.com">www.g4jnt.com</A></DIV>
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    <DIV><BR><BR>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3Dgmail_quote>On 20/09/2009, <B class=3Dgmail_sendern=
ame>John=20
    P-G</B> &lt;<A      href=3D"mailto:gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk">gm4s=
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      LF<BR><BR>Many spots last night - here's just one of them<BR><BR>235=
2=20
      &nbsp;-6 &nbsp;0.4 &nbsp; 0.503851 &nbsp;0 G4JNT IO90 23<BR><BR>And=
 I=20
      wasn't even the best DX!<BR><BR>Cheers,<BR><BR>John<BR>GM4SLV<BR><SP=
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Hi Mal, LF!

trying to tx pse again.
I want  trying  to look your signal with 502.32 dial.

Roman

> DX G3KEV nw QRV 502.57 CW and QRS3. QSX 7033
>
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Dear John, Jay, LF Group,

I started a bit late last night at 0124utc (don't ask...), but again got 
consistent copy of WE2XGR/2 and /3. /2 decoded between about 0350 and a 
little after 0534 (about sunrise time here), while /3 was decoded between 
0124 and about 0300. Most decodes occured within 288s - conditions seemed 
similar to last night.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU



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Strong signal at 5:00z warren

73
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 Ive been faced with similar problems over the years and especially when=
 audio in and out rates differ. I know very little save using a couple of=
 simple utilities to at least demonstrate what I have in front of me. We=
 have some cal checks built in tests with the prog itself.....What to do=
 about the offset results is another matter and James describes.

=20

Ive been using the standalone Sound card calibration utility in MixW softw=
are http://www.mixw.net/index.php?j=3Ddownloads - its not to three decimal=
 places but does visualize what the offset is for both In and out to the=
 soundcard using a repetitive check sum. You can select the rate you have=
 in the windows...

=20

My Sound  rate in is 8102.12 for a supposed 8000 rate....

=20

I tried it today on my remote receiver up in Alaska just to check that I=
 had both the rx cal and the sound card cal close enough (as I can get) an=
d it seems to check out. It showed, after caling the sound card a 4.1Hz of=
fset at 10Mhz using the non stab R75 up there and it was dead on...I haven=
t tweeked that receiver for a year or too.

=20

Im using standard cheap (Im presuming) Sigmatel C and Crystal something on=
 one of the other ones. They arent that stable thats for sure....but good=
 enough.

=20

Laurence=20

=20

=20

=20
> From: james.moritz@btopenworld.com
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 13:33:07 +0100
> Subject: LF: Re: WOLF/WSPR Sound card issues
>=20
> Dear Dave,
>=20
> AC 97=20
> (http://download.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/sb/ac97_r23.pdf=
 )=20
> specifies 48kHz as the basic, obligatory sample rate for compliant sound=
=20
> cards, so yours should certainly be able to do it - to find more info,=
 you=20
> could try looking for the audio codec chip on the motherboard - usually=
 a=20
> very tiny square 48pin thing near the audio connectors, and searching us=
ing=20
> its type number. But I guess what sample rate is actually used will depe=
nd=20
> on software, drivers and so forth - perhaps someone with experience of=
 PC=20
> sound card programming could advise. Looking at the audio settings in th=
e=20
> Windows control panel may well tell you what sample rates are possible.=
=20
> Also, some software allows you to select different sample rates, for=20
> instance Spectrum Lab, but not Argo as far as I know.
>=20
> The errors you are getting in the measured frequency seem to be enormous=
 - 2=20
> or 3%, which would certainly give rise to problems.
>=20
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>=20
> ----- Original Message -----=20
> From: "Dave Sergeant" <dave@davesergeant.com>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 11:59 AM
> Subject: LF: WOLF/WSPR Sound card issues
>=20
>=20
> It seems that both WOLF and WSPR are
> > designed for current sound cards which have 48,000 and 96,000 clock
> > rates. Mine is obviously from the old stable so has 44,100 etc rates.
> >
> > For information it is the sound card interface built into the
> > motherboard, an ASR Rock K7S41GX dating from 2003 with generic AC'97
> > sound. Zilch more given about its spec in the manual.
> >
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<BR>&nbsp;Ive been faced with similar problems over the years and especial=
ly when audio in and out rates differ. I know very little save using a cou=
ple of simple utilities to at least demonstrate what I have in front of me=
. We have some cal checks built in tests with the prog itself.....What to=
 do about the offset results is&nbsp;another matter and James describes.<B=
R>
&nbsp;<BR>
Ive been using the standalone Sound card calibration utility in MixW softw=
are <A href=3D"http://www.mixw.net/index.php?j=3Ddownloads">http://www.mix=
w.net/index.php?j=3Ddownloads</A>&nbsp;- its not to three decimal places=
 but does visualize what the offset is for both In and out to the soundcar=
d using a repetitive check sum. You can select the rate you have in the wi=
ndows...<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
My Sound&nbsp; rate in is 8102.12 for a supposed 8000 rate....<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
I tried it today on my remote receiver up in Alaska just to check that I=
 had both the rx cal and the sound card cal close enough (as I can get) an=
d it seems to check out. It showed, after caling the sound card a 4.1Hz of=
fset at 10Mhz using the non stab R75 up there and it was dead on...I haven=
t tweeked that receiver for a year or too.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Im using standard cheap (Im presuming) Sigmatel C and Crystal something on=
 one of the other ones. They arent that stable thats for sure....but good=
 enough.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Laurence <BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>&gt; From: james.moritz@btopenworld.com<BR>&gt; To: rsgb_lf_grou=
p@blacksheep.org<BR>&gt; Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 13:33:07 +0100<BR>&gt; Sub=
ject: LF: Re: WOLF/WSPR Sound card issues<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Dear Dave,<BR>&=
gt; <BR>&gt; AC 97 <BR>&gt; (http://download.intel.com/support/motherboard=
s/desktop/sb/ac97_r23.pdf ) <BR>&gt; specifies 48kHz as the basic, obligat=
ory sample rate for compliant sound <BR>&gt; cards, so yours should certai=
nly be able to do it - to find more info, you <BR>&gt; could try looking=
 for the audio codec chip on the motherboard - usually a <BR>&gt; very tin=
y square 48pin thing near the audio connectors, and searching using <BR>&g=
t; its type number. But I guess what sample rate is actually used will dep=
end <BR>&gt; on software, drivers and so forth - perhaps someone with expe=
rience of PC <BR>&gt; sound card programming could advise. Looking at the=
 audio settings in the <BR>&gt; Windows control panel may well tell you wh=
at sample rates are possible. <BR>&gt; Also, some software allows you to=
 select different sample rates, for <BR>&gt; instance Spectrum Lab, but no=
t Argo as far as I know.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; The errors you are getting in th=
e measured frequency seem to be enormous - 2 <BR>&gt; or 3%, which would=
 certainly give rise to problems.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Cheers, Jim Moritz<BR>&=
gt; 73 de M0BMU<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; ----- Original Message ----- <BR>&gt; Fro=
m: "Dave Sergeant" &lt;dave@davesergeant.com&gt;<BR>&gt; To: &lt;rsgb_lf_g=
roup@blacksheep.org&gt;<BR>&gt; Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 11:59=
 AM<BR>&gt; Subject: LF: WOLF/WSPR Sound card issues<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>=
&gt; It seems that both WOLF and WSPR are<BR>&gt; &gt; designed for curren=
t sound cards which have 48,000 and 96,000 clock<BR>&gt; &gt; rates. Mine=
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Dear all,

aural reception of EI0CF again around 23.50 UTC (September 29th) on
501,1 kHz,
peaking 559, in eastern Bavaria, JN68GN.

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hi Jim / group

Ok.   I've put it on air with some preliminary values.   The WSPR signal is
on 503.850kHz  and its running 6db down on the 15 minute beacon at 50% duty
cycle.  Teh hiuh duty cycle is for my local monitoring purposes - save
haviign to wait too long.

When its had a run at this setting, I can reduce the duty cycle a bit (the
S/W hasn't been tested at lower DCy yet) and could increase power a bit.
Don't really want to run at full power, mainly in the interest of longevity
of the PA and my leccy bill!

The WSPR slots are currently at  0,2,6,10,14,22,26,28,32,36,40,44,46,52,56
minutes past the hour, with the orther signal at 4,19,34,49 minutes past.

Any changes are just a case of reprogramming the PIC EE Data

Andy
www.g4jnt.com

this email has been scanned for political correctness by the nanny state


2009/9/19 James Moritz <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>

> Dear Andy,
>
> I would suggest a frequency between 503.825 and 503.900, to avoid the QRM
> around 504kHz some people experience, and give a bit of tolerance for
> receiver frequency errors, which are sometimes suprisingly large. For some
> reason, the frequencies below 503.9 seem to be less widely used. But since
> there are only about half a dozen stations transmitting in this mode, there
> is plenty of space.
>
> A 25% or 33% duty cycle seems to be frequent enough to catch most
> "openings" - probably less would be OK. As for power, I would suggest
> running as much as possible - monitoring signal level of a strong beacon  is
> easier than a weak one, and a relatively high power will give the greatest
> chance of being received by the maximum number of stations under the maximum
> range of conditions. You could argue that the presence of a "strong" beacon
> would sometimes prevent reception of very weak signals nearby in frequency,
> but since this only can happen 25% or 33% of the time, and the signal is not
> so strong at a few 100 mW ERP,  it is probably not a serious objection in
> practice.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
>

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<div>hi Jim / group</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>Ok.=A0=A0 I&#39;ve=A0put it on air with some preliminary values.=A0=
=A0=A0The WSPR signal is on=A0503.850kHz=A0 and its running 6db down on th=
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al monitoring purposes - save haviign to wait too long.</div>

<div>=A0</div>
<div>When its had a run at this setting, I=A0can reduce the duty cycle a=
 bit (the S/W hasn&#39;t been tested at lower DCy yet) and could increase=
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<div>=A0</div>
<div>The WSPR slots are currently at=A0 0,2,6,10,14,22,26,28,32,36,40,44,4=
6,52,56=A0=A0 minutes past the hour, with the orther signal at 4,19,34,49=
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<div>=A0</div>
<div>Any changes are just a case of reprogramming the PIC EE Data</div>
<div><br clear=3D"all">Andy<br><a href=3D"http://www.g4jnt.com">www.g4jnt.=
com</a><br><br>this email has been scanned for political correctness by th=
e nanny state<br><br><br></div>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/9/19 James Moritz <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a=
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</a>&gt;</span><br>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8e=
x; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">Dear Andy,<br><br>I would sugg=
est a frequency between 503.825 and 503.900, to avoid the QRM around 504kH=
z some people experience, and give a bit of tolerance for receiver frequen=
cy errors, which are sometimes suprisingly large. For some reason, the fre=
quencies below 503.9 seem to be less widely used. But since there are only=
 about half a dozen stations transmitting in this mode, there is plenty of=
 space.<br>
<br>A 25% or 33% duty cycle seems to be frequent enough to catch most &quo=
t;openings&quot; - probably less would be OK. As for power, I would sugges=
t running as much as possible - monitoring signal level of a strong beacon=
 =A0is easier than a weak one, and a relatively high power will give the=
 greatest chance of being received by the maximum number of stations under=
 the maximum range of conditions. You could argue that the presence of a=
 &quot;strong&quot; beacon would sometimes prevent reception of very weak=
 signals nearby in frequency, but since this only can happen 25% or 33% of=
 the time, and the signal is not so strong at a few 100 mW ERP, =A0it is=
 probably not a serious objection in practice.<br>
<br>Cheers, Jim Moritz<br>73 de M0BMU <br><br></blockquote></div><br>

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Dear Laurence, Roman, LF Group,

I shut the beacon down at 0446utc this morning. The frequency was 503.975kHz 
as advertised. Thanks for the overnight reports, nice to see spots from 
W1TAG again and from Russia for the first time. I transmitted in about 75% 
of the 2 minute periods between about 1940 and 2050utc, but saw nothing like 
a signal in the BY3 grabber, although the frequency seemed mostly clear. 
Conditions were relatively noisy here with more QRN than the previous night.

The antenna is a top-loaded vertical with 3 wires in a sort of Y shape in 
the horizontal plane. Where the wires meet, it is supported by a 10m 
fibreglass mast. To "jack up" the antenna, I have an old "cherry picker" (or 
aerial access platform or whatever you wish to call it) which is slowly 
sinking into my lawn. The bottom of the mast is bolted to the cherry picker 
where the operator's basket used to be, so the whole mast can be raised into 
the air. This allows a total maximum height of about 19m if I am feeling 
brave; last night the middle of the antenna span was raised to about 17m. 
Previous FS measurements have shown this gives about 3 - 4dB improvement in 
ERP due to the increased height and radiation resistance, along with a 
slight reduction in loss resistance. The total length of wire in the antenna 
stays the same, but gets further from the ground, so antenna capacitance 
actually reduces slightly. The things we do to try and get a better 
signal...

Cross-band QSOs from M0BMU are unfortunately difficult at the moment due to 
the high QRM levels on the lower HF bands here - I am hoping some work on 
dedicated HF receiving antennas here will improve this soon.

The 504kHz signal seems to be present in many widely-seperated QTHs - don't 
know about W/VE though? It seems to be different at each location. Here it 
is a rather weak carrier with no audible modulation, on the spectrogram it 
can be seen to have a couple of stronger spectral lines and several weaker 
ones spread over a range of a few Hz. These seem to vary over time, possibly 
due to QSB. They can't all be RTE/Atlantic 252 harmonics - 504kHz is an 
integer multiple of 9kHz, so many opportunities for internal or external 
intermods due to broadcast stations. 504kHz is also a multiple of 8kHz, as 
is 136kHz - it was suggested at one time that the weak carriers audible in 
many places on 136.0kHz could be harmonics of the 8kHz clock rate used in 
wired telecomms.

I would be quite interested to try WOLF again - although it needs more 
careful coordination with frequencies than WSPR.

Roman, there are some pdf files on the UK 500kHz group site about some of my 
LF/MF gear - you are welcome to use those if you like.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU



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Hello Nicolas
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Thanks Dave. Thanks also to others who have tried to detect my flea power
500kHz WSPR station.

Clearly work is needed to up the ERP and will be done progressively during
the autumn.  I will give the current set-up one last go overnight tonight
then it will be down until Oct 6th.
It's the weekend, so there might be a few more people listening?

73s
Roger G3XBM



2009/9/19 Dave G3WCB <ganymede444@btopenworld.com>

>  No luck last night Roger. Just Jim and Jim. You need to have a go at your
> antenna when you get back!
>
>
>
> 0640 -12  2.8   0.503956  0 G7NKS IO92 27
>
> 0642  14  2.0   0.503841  0 M0BMU IO91 33
>
> 0648 -12  3.0   0.503959  0 G7NKS IO92 27
>
> 0650  15  2.0   0.503841  0 M0BMU IO91 33
>
> 0656  14  2.0   0.503841  0 M0BMU IO91 33
>
> 0702  14  2.0   0.503841  0 M0BMU IO91 33
>
> 0704 -14  2.8   0.503967  0 G7NKS IO92 27
> 0706  14  2.1   0.503841  0 M0BMU IO91 33
>
> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
>
> -----Original Message-----
> *From:* owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:
> owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]*On Behalf Of *Roger Lapthorn
> *Sent:* 18 September 2009 23:01
> *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> *Subject:* LF: 500kHz QRPp WSPR overnight
>
> Tonight is probably my last chance to receive any new WSPR reports before I
> go on holiday, so I'll leave the beacon running until around 8am UK time
> tomorrow on 33% TX. If there are any night owls around, I'd appreciate a few
> receivers staying on 500kHz just in case you might hear me.
>
> 73s
> Roger G3XBM
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> http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
> G3XBM    GQRP 1678      ISWL G11088
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Thanks Dave. Thanks also to others who have tried to detect my flea power=
 500kHz WSPR station.<br><br>Clearly work is needed to up the ERP and will=
 be done progressively during the autumn.=A0 I will give the current set-u=
p one last go overnight tonight then it will be down until Oct 6th.<br>
It&#39;s the weekend, so there might be a few more people listening?<br><b=
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<p style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Courier=
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</span>3.0<span>=A0=A0 </span>0.503959<span>=A0 </span>0 G7NKS IO92 27</fo=
nt></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Courier=
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<p style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Courier=
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<p style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Courier=
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<p style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Courier=
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</span>2.8<span>=A0=A0 </span>0.503967<span>=A0 </span>0 G7NKS IO92 27</fo=
nt></p>
<div><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: &#39;Microsoft Sans Seri=
f&#39;;"><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Courier New">0706<span>=A0=20
</span>14<span>=A0 </span>2.1<span>=A0=A0 </span>0.503841<span>=A0 </span>=
0 M0BMU IO91 33</font></span></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: &#39;Microsoft Sans Seri=
f&#39;;"><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Courier New"></font></span>=A0</d=
iv>
<div><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: &#39;Microsoft Sans Seri=
f&#39;;"><span><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Times New Roman">73, Dave=
=20
G3WCB IO91RM</font></span></span></div></font></div><div><div></div><div=
 class=3D"h5">
<blockquote>
  <div dir=3D"ltr" align=3D"left"><font face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2">-----Or=
iginal Message-----<br><b>From:</b>=20
  <a href=3D"mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" target=3D"_blank">=
owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a>=20
  [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" target=3D"=
_blank">owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a>]<b>On Behalf Of </b>Roger=
=20
  Lapthorn<br><b>Sent:</b> 18 September 2009 23:01<br><b>To:</b>=20
  <a href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" target=3D"_blank">rsgb_l=
f_group@blacksheep.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> LF: 500kHz QRPp WSPR=20
  overnight<br><br></font></div>Tonight is probably my last chance to rece=
ive=20
  any new WSPR reports before I go on holiday, so I&#39;ll leave the beaco=
n running=20
  until around 8am UK time tomorrow on 33% TX. If there are any night owls=
=20
  around, I&#39;d appreciate a few receivers staying on 500kHz just in cas=
e you=20
  might hear me.<br><br>73s<br>Roger G3XBM<br clear=3D"all"><br>----------=
---------------------------------------------------<br><a href=3D"http://g=
3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/</=
a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.g3xbm.co.uk" target=3D"_blank">http://www.g3xbm.co.u=
k</a><br>G3XBM =A0=20
  =A0GQRP 1678 =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL G11088<br></blockquote>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>----------=
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3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/">http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/</a><br><a href=3D"h=
ttp://www.g3xbm.co.uk">http://www.g3xbm.co.uk</a><br>
G3XBM =A0 =A0GQRP 1678 =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL G11088<br>

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James Moritz wrote:

> Dear Jim, Roger, LF Group,
>
> The M0BMU WOLF beacon is now running on 503.500kHz - I don't know what 
> frequency G7NKS plans to be on , but would suggest about 100Hz 
> spacing. If you are at reasonably close distance, and set up on the 
> right receive frequency, you should be seeing a trace about 20Hz wide 
> in the centre of the WOLF waterfall. However, for more distant 
> stations, you can expect successful decodes even when there is no 
> visible trace. It should be interesting to see how WOLF fares when 
> trying to receive a weaker signal close to a stronger one.
>
> Any reports will be very welcome.


Dear Jim, LF  Group,
Yesterday  evening/night i had all my rx  boxes off . I just read  the 
new posts on the reflector. among them,  it was an email from John , GM4SLV
John was saying it was too easy for him  to decode   WOLF  transmision 
from Jim. I  thought immediately it is going to be too difficult for me 
to do the same ..
but it was a nice surprise:
2009-09-10 19:36:31 >WOLF10  -r 11025 -f 1000 -t 3 -w 0.0000
t:  24 f:-2.129 a:-0.7 dp: 70.4 ci: 5 cj:257 27JXL*GCGV1KT0E ?
t:  48 f: 1.439 a: 0.1 dp: 70.4 ci:13 cj:290 5 CL/.XMV. Q7GO ?
t:  96 f:-0.322 a: 1.2 dp: 66.3 ci:11 cj: 46 X4*H4Y*08IQ/13X ?
t: 192 f: 0.303 pm:28.63 jm:286 q: -0.5 -1.2 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t: 288 f: 0.312 pm:32.73 jm:286 q:  2.5  2.1 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t: 384 f: 0.322 pm:45.78 jm:286 q:  2.0  2.2 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t: 480 f: 0.342 pm:62.10 jm:286 q: -0.3 -1.5 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t: 576 f: 0.342 pm:83.95 jm:286 q:  2.7  1.8 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t: 672 f: 0.342 pm:86.72 jm:286 q:  3.4  2.6 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t: 768 f: 0.361 pm:103.4 jm:287 q:  2.6  1.9 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t: 864 f: 0.371 pm:116.4 jm:287 q:  3.2  0.9 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t: 960 f: 0.371 pm:125.2 jm:287 q:  5.3  3.5 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t:1056 f: 0.381 pm:148.5 jm:287 q:  4.4  4.3 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t:1152 f: 0.381 pm:151.3 jm:287 q:  5.9  5.7 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t:1248 f: 0.381 pm:152.7 jm:287 q:  6.2  6.0 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -

                                         73 de peter, sq7mpj

qth: Lodz /jo91rs/




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Hello James, OM & LF!

Jim!
We are need that QSO!
Pse make any vertical 5-10m high for rx 40m!
I think it will be good.
Or loop/magnetic loop for 40m band rx!
Prop on 500 is wonderful! Fantastic!
10m high antenna and solid copy in Moscow!
Will be ready to x-band pse.

I'm very interesting to 504 Khz stations.
Some time I copy 539 in Moscow. China or east Russia I think! not RTE!
Do not correlation with the G|GM stations here.

73!
Roman

* James Moritz <james.moritz@btopenworld.com> [Mon, 7 Sep 2009 14:02:26 
+0100]:
> Dear Laurence, Roman, LF Group,
>
> I shut the beacon down at 0446utc this morning. The frequency was
> 503.975kHz
> as advertised. Thanks for the overnight reports, nice to see spots 
from
> W1TAG again and from Russia for the first time. I transmitted in about
> 75%
> of the 2 minute periods between about 1940 and 2050utc, but saw 
nothing
> like
> a signal in the BY3 grabber, although the frequency seemed mostly 
clear.
> Conditions were relatively noisy here with more QRN than the previous
> night.
>
> The antenna is a top-loaded vertical with 3 wires in a sort of Y shape
> in
> the horizontal plane. Where the wires meet, it is supported by a 10m
> fibreglass mast. To "jack up" the antenna, I have an old "cherry 
picker"
> (or
> aerial access platform or whatever you wish to call it) which is 
slowly
> sinking into my lawn. The bottom of the mast is bolted to the cherry
> picker
> where the operator's basket used to be, so the whole mast can be 
raised
> into
> the air. This allows a total maximum height of about 19m if I am 
feeling
> brave; last night the middle of the antenna span was raised to about
> 17m.
> Previous FS measurements have shown this gives about 3 - 4dB 
improvement
> in
> ERP due to the increased height and radiation resistance, along with a
> slight reduction in loss resistance. The total length of wire in the
> antenna
> stays the same, but gets further from the ground, so antenna 
capacitance
> actually reduces slightly. The things we do to try and get a better
> signal...
>
> Cross-band QSOs from M0BMU are unfortunately difficult at the moment 
due
> to
> the high QRM levels on the lower HF bands here - I am hoping some work
> on
> dedicated HF receiving antennas here will improve this soon.
>
> The 504kHz signal seems to be present in many widely-seperated QTHs -
> don't
> know about W/VE though? It seems to be different at each location. 
Here
> it
> is a rather weak carrier with no audible modulation, on the 
spectrogram
> it
> can be seen to have a couple of stronger spectral lines and several
> weaker
> ones spread over a range of a few Hz. These seem to vary over time,
> possibly
> due to QSB. They can't all be RTE/Atlantic 252 harmonics - 504kHz is 
an
> integer multiple of 9kHz, so many opportunities for internal or 
external
> intermods due to broadcast stations. 504kHz is also a multiple of 
8kHz,
> as
> is 136kHz - it was suggested at one time that the weak carriers 
audible
> in
> many places on 136.0kHz could be harmonics of the 8kHz clock rate used
> in
> wired telecomms.
>
> I would be quite interested to try WOLF again - although it needs more
> careful coordination with frequencies than WSPR.
>
> Roman, there are some pdf files on the UK 500kHz group site about some
> of my
> LF/MF gear - you are welcome to use those if you like.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
>




--
Roman RW3ADB.


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John P-G wrote:

> Hello Dave, LF
>
> A new WSPR one for me!
>
> 1852 -26  1.2   0.503808  0 G3YXM IO92 27
>
> Nice to see you on the mode from Shetland,
>
> Cheers,
>
> John
> GM4SLV
>
Hello Dave, LF  Group,
I will follow John, GM4SLV  and  write the same statement: :
Nice to see you on the mode from Poland

1946 -23  0.4   0.503812  0 G3YXM IO92 27
1946  -2  0.9   0.503931  0 SM6BHZ JO57 33

I also asked  another ham , Matt, sq7dqx  ( he  lives  also in Lodz )  
to  start  wspr on MF  and he also  got a positive decoding of ur signal
( both decodes are sent to wspr database)
It must be a good propagation  tonight on 500 khz
Btw,  you just took away my 'odx' label from James, M0BMU   as far as 
the wspr signals on 500 kHz are concerned but i do believe Jim  will 
forgive you :)
at this moment it is 1450 km  with 27dbm on your side  with my modest rx 
setup
11 turns  1sq. m loop "sitting' on my balcony  , followed by a simple 
two stage ( J310, BC109 )  buffer/amplif.  and ft857d

                                                                           
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Thank you, Warren.  I will try again this evening and see if I can get a=
 screen capture.

73
John F5VLF

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On 25/09/2009 at 16:40 Warren Ziegler wrote:

>John,
>
>   XGJ  is on 137.7798 here but sunset is not until 22:30 UTC.
>
>--=20
>73 Warren K2ORS
>                WD2XGJ
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>On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 3:29 PM, John RABSON <john.rabson@numeo.fr> wrote=
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>> At 1928z.
>>
>> F5VLF
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>>
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>>





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hi Marcin
last night I am no qrv in 137 khz.....
anytime I am at your disposal
73 s
F8boj Claude JN16WA
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Hi Claude
I copy last night signal on 137,740kHz. Its yours?
Vy 73!
Marcin SQ2BXI


hi Marcin and LF
GM is f8boj error frequence in qrss3 change frequency for 137740hz  =
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qsl...F8boj Claude jn16wa----- Original Message -----
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Hello Jean Pierre
Your grabber regularly copy my signal:
http://www.sp2kds.pl/images/stories/f1afj.jpg
Vy 73!
Marcin SQ2BXI

Hello Marcin ,

Tnx for info , my antenna are at QTF 295=B0 (USA)

73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

Marcin a =E9crit :
> Dear Jean Pierre, LF
> It is HF70W QRSS 60 signal.
> Vy 73!
> Marcin SQ2BXI
>
>
>> Hello LF'ers ,
>>
>> I copy on 137,778 unidentified signal ?
>> 22:00 =3D> 23:00 utc ( see on picture )
>>
>> 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj
>>
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tim hague wrote:
> Roger Lapthorn wrote:
>> It is currently on around 503.890kHz. Just set your RX to 502.4kHz in 
>> USB mode with the WSPR software and it will find me if at a readable 
>> level.
>>
>> 73s
>> Roger G3XBM
>>
>> 2009/9/17 Chris <c.ashby435@btinternet.com 
>> <mailto:c.ashby435@btinternet.com>>
>>
>>     Hi Roger,
>>     Please remind us which frequency exactly it is on.
>>     Thanks and 73,
>>     Chris, G4AYT.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
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>> http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/
>> http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
>> G3XBM    GQRP 1678      ISWL G11088
> Will leave my Rx on all night, now connected the FT2000 to the 
> welbrook loop
> Tim AFJ
> IO92OB
>
>
Copying SM7BHZ, best Dx so far on 500kHz


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As I have the RX up and copying Jim, are there *any other 137kHz WSPR
stations who could come on now* too? It would be good to see who else I
could copy on this band on WSPR. Don't have long as I am meant to be packing
a suitcase!

135.5kHz USB dial frequency

73s
Roger G3XBM

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As I have the RX up and copying Jim, are there <b><u>any other 137kHz WSPR=
 stations who could come on now</u></b> too? It would be good to see who=
 else I could copy on this band on WSPR. Don&#39;t have long as I am meant=
 to be packing a suitcase!<br>
<br>135.5kHz USB dial frequency<br><br>73s<br>Roger G3XBM<br clear=3D"all"=
><br>-- <br>-------------------------------------------------------------<=
br><a href=3D"http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/">http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.co=
m/</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.g3xbm.co.uk">http://www.g3xbm.co.uk</a><br>G3XBM =A0=
 =A0GQRP 1678 =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL G11088<br>

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* Lubos OK2BVG <bvgbob@hotmail.com> [Sat, 19 Sep 2009 22:55:28 +0200]:
>
> Hello Anatolij, LF!
> I just see your signal QRSS60.
>
> Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

Actually visible onto RA9CUA grabber:
http://ra9cua.nm.ru/

unstable S - UA9CS signal.

 Roman

PS- My grabber on 500 today.



>
> _________________________________________________________________
> P=C5=99et=C3=A1hn=C4=9Bte si fotografie p=C5=99=C3=ADmo do chatu v Messe=
nger. Jak se do d=C4=9Bl=C3=A1.
> http://download.live.com/messenger
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> * "090919_WPF.JPG"



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Jay,

I know K1JT is active on 500kHz RX, but I think Andy had a fair point 
about other people not setting their WSPR data correctly, judging from 
the spot below:-

2009-09-20 18:16 SM6BHZ 0.503926 +12 0  JO57wq  2 K1JT FN20


With the best will in the world I don't think K1JT is receiving Gus at 
+12dB on 500kHz, at 18:00UTC when most of the path is in daylight :-)

John
GM4SLV


jrusgrove@comcast.net wrote:
> Andy
> 
> K1JT, AA1A, W1XP, W1VD and W1TAG have been watching for EU WSPR. All display 
> correct station information.
> 
> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2




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If you could SEE my TX,  "antenna" and ATU you would realise how amazed I am
at this report from G3XVL. My antenna is literally 15m of low horizontal
wire with about 2m of it vertical, a central heating ground and an ATU on
the bedroom table made from a ferrite rod and fed with 700mW from a
2N3906/2N3904. This proves that 500kHz is possible with a
*really*minimalist station. I can only imagine what will be possible
with some
effort on my part.

Today has been one of the most enjoyable since I got my licence in 1967.
Thanks to everyone on this list for encouraging me.

73s
Roger G3XBM

2009/9/13 Chris McCarthy <chris.decibel@googlemail.com>

> Roger,
> I can beat that your reception report from Ipswich, Suffolk
>
>   2009-09-13 20:12   G3XBM   0.503922   -27   1   JO02dg   0.001   G3XVL
>  JO02nb   61   112 well done,
> Chris G3XVL
>
>
>
> 2009/9/13 Roger Lapthorn <rogerlapthorn@gmail.com>
>
> All of 3kms away (whoa DX!!) but I just got my first WSPR report on 500kHz:
>>
>>    2009-09-13 20:04   G3XBM   0.503908   -6   0   JO02dg   0.001   G6ALB
>>  JO02dg   0   0   2009-09-13 20:02   G3XBM   0.503910   -12   -1
>>  JO02dg   0.001   G6ALB   JO02dg   0   0
>> At least the signal is getting across the fields at the back of the house.
>> Andrew G6ALB is in the next village. You can see by my report that I have a
>> LOT of work to do....
>>
>> 73s
>> Roger G3XBM
>> --
>> -------------------------------------------------------------
>> http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/
>> http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
>> G3XBM    GQRP 1678      ISWL G11088
>>
>
>


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<div>If you could SEE my TX, =A0&quot;antenna&quot; and ATU=A0you would re=
alise how amazed I am at this report from G3XVL.=A0My antenna=A0is literal=
ly 15m of low horizontal wire with about 2m of it vertical, a central heat=
ing ground and an ATU on the bedroom table made from a ferrite rod and fed=
 with 700mW from a 2N3906/2N3904. This proves that 500kHz is possible with=
 a <u>really</u> minimalist station. I can only imagine what will be possi=
ble with some effort on my part.</div>

<div>=A0</div>
<div>Today has been one of the most enjoyable since I got my licence in 19=
67.=A0 Thanks to everyone on this list for encouraging me.</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>73s</div>
<div>Roger G3XBM<br><br></div>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/9/13 Chris McCarthy <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;=
<a href=3D"mailto:chris.decibel@googlemail.com">chris.decibel@googlemail.c=
om</a>&gt;</span><br>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8e=
x; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">Roger,<br>I can beat that your=
 reception report from Ipswich, Suffolk<br><br>
<table>
<tbody>
<tr>
<td align=3D"right">2009-09-13 20:12=A0</td>
<td align=3D"left">=A0G3XBM=A0</td>
<td align=3D"right">=A00.503922=A0</td>
<td align=3D"right">=A0-27=A0</td>
<td align=3D"right">=A01=A0</td>
<td align=3D"left">=A0JO02dg=A0</td>
<td align=3D"right">=A00.001=A0</td>
<td align=3D"left">=A0G3XVL=A0</td>
<td align=3D"left">=A0JO02nb=A0</td>
<td align=3D"right">=A061=A0</td>
<td align=3D"right">=A0112=A0</td></tr></tbody></table>well done,<br>Chris=
 G3XVL<br><br><br><br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/9/13 Roger Lapthorn <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;=
<a href=3D"mailto:rogerlapthorn@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">rogerlapthorn=
@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>=20
<div>
<div></div>
<div class=3D"h5"><br>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid; MARGIN: 0pt=
 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">All of 3kms away=
 (whoa DX!!) but I just got my first WSPR report on 500kHz:<br><br>
<table>
<tbody>
<tr>
<td align=3D"right"><font size=3D"2">=A02009-09-13 20:04=A0</font></td>
<td align=3D"left"><font size=3D"2">=A0G3XBM=A0</font></td>
<td align=3D"right"><font size=3D"2">=A00.503908=A0</font></td>
<td align=3D"right"><font size=3D"2">=A0-6=A0</font></td>
<td align=3D"right"><font size=3D"2">=A00=A0</font></td>
<td align=3D"left"><font size=3D"2">=A0JO02dg=A0</font></td>
<td align=3D"right"><font size=3D"2">=A00.001=A0</font></td>
<td align=3D"left"><font size=3D"2">=A0G6ALB=A0</font></td>
<td align=3D"left"><font size=3D"2">=A0JO02dg=A0</font></td>
<td align=3D"right"><font size=3D"2">=A00=A0</font></td>
<td align=3D"right"><font size=3D"2">=A00=A0</font></td></tr>
<tr>
<td align=3D"right"><font size=3D"2">=A02009-09-13 20:02=A0</font></td>
<td align=3D"left"><font size=3D"2">=A0G3XBM=A0</font></td>
<td align=3D"right"><font size=3D"2">=A00.503910=A0</font></td>
<td align=3D"right"><font size=3D"2">=A0-12=A0</font></td>
<td align=3D"right"><font size=3D"2">=A0-1=A0</font></td>
<td align=3D"left"><font size=3D"2">=A0JO02dg=A0</font></td>
<td align=3D"right"><font size=3D"2">=A00.001=A0</font></td>
<td align=3D"left"><font size=3D"2">=A0G6ALB=A0</font></td>
<td align=3D"left"><font size=3D"2">=A0JO02dg=A0</font></td>
<td align=3D"right"><font size=3D"2">=A00=A0</font></td>
<td align=3D"right"><font size=3D"2">=A00=A0</font></td></tr></tbody></tab=
le><br clear=3D"all">At least the signal is getting across the fields at=
 the back of the house. Andrew G6ALB is in the next village. You can see=
 by my report that I have a LOT of work to do....<br>
<br>73s<br>Roger G3XBM<br><font color=3D"#888888">-- <br>-----------------=
--------------------------------------------<br><a href=3D"http://g3xbm-qr=
p.blogspot.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/</a><br><=
a href=3D"http://www.g3xbm.co.uk/" target=3D"_blank">http://www.g3xbm.co.u=
k</a><br>
G3XBM =A0 =A0GQRP 1678 =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL G11088<br></font></blockquote></div=
></div></div><br></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all">
<div></div><br>-- <br>----------------------------------------------------=
---------<br><a href=3D"http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/">http://g3xbm-qrp.b=
logspot.com/</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.g3xbm.co.uk">http://www.g3xbm.co=
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James Cowburn wrote:
> Dear All,
> 
> Had a go with the WOLF but no decodes though

There seems to be a pattern - no one with a strong local signal can
decode it, but us in the far distance have no trouble! Perhaps the
decoder needs lots of noise to help it along - hi!

I'd like to see if WOLF is better than WSPR for you QRPpp, at this
distance up to Shetland. Certainly Jim's 2W is making it very easily.

> For now I am back on WSPR 502.4

I'm now trying both in parallel, on the same PC and the same soundcard,
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Hi again Roelof....
I did not see the message from Jim.... can you forward it to me..? 
73...Jordan...


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> Dear Jim,
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> Thank you for your comments.
> I will try the circuit as in your description.
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Merci bien!!

With best regards
 
 
Jim
 
 
Dr. James Cowburn

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>
> Just set up new Ant system, hopefully a lot less lossy so I should not be
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>  

1852 -25  1.3   0.503940 -1 G7NKS IO92 23


First time decode !

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Hi LF,
capture WPF 
Henny pa3cpm
73s                                                                    Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
WPF 26-09.jpg

Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld.

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi LF,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>capture&nbsp;<FONT face="Times New Roman"   size=3>WPF&nbsp;</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>Henny 
pa3cpm</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><FONT face="Times New Roman"   size=3>73s&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
</FONT></FONT>Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden 
verzonden:<BR>WPF 26-09.jpg<BR><BR>Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan 
ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde 
bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail 
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WSPR record for G7NKS. Looking for others!

1658  -8  0.8   0.503942 -1 G7NKS IO92 23
1720  -4  0.7   0.503944 -1 G7NKS IO92 23
1732  -5  0.9   0.503942 -1 G7NKS IO92 23
1740  -4  0.9   0.503942  1 G7NKS IO92 23
1749  -7  1.6   0.503948 -1 G7NKS IO92 23


73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor, S.E. England


  -----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Roger Lapthorn
  Sent: 16 September 2009 15:48
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
  Subject: LF: G3XBM 500kHz WSPR beacon back on - any stronger?


  Good Folks,

  Have made some quick changes to the 500kHz antenna and ground system (now
using my 10m halo and feed now as a short vertical with top capacity loading
and using the 15m long-wire as a radial along with the central heating
ground) and am putting the WSPR beacon back on shortly. Interested to know
if the changes have made much difference. Antenna current is higher so I
hope it will radiate a some more. Reports and screenshots gratefully
received.

  On RX, G7NKS is about the same S/N as this morning before the changes. Not
quite sure what this is telling me.

  BTW, I know I drift upwards about 50Hz for about 20 mins as the
transverter xtal oscillator settles.

  73s
  Roger G3XBM

  -------------------------------------------------------------
  http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/
  http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
  G3XBM    GQRP 1678      ISWL G11088

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  Lapthorn<BR><B>Sent:</B> 16 September 2009 15:48<BR><B>To:</B>=20
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Hello Warren,LF,
Strong signal,
Capture XGJ
Henny pa3cpm
best 73s
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hello Warren,LF,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Capture XGJ</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>best 73s</FONT></DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het 
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Dear Joerg
OK! We will be specially qrv for you to saturday from 11:00 UTC.
--
Vy 73!
Marcin SQ2BXI



Dear Marcin,

will there be 136 kHz activities Saturday morning/noon?
Only during office hours access to "my" antenna, sri.
Could try to be qrv around 1100 to 1300 lt but only good old hand made
straight code.
Hw?

73 good luck
Joerg, DL3NRV




> -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: "Marcin" <bxi@go2.pl>
> Gesendet: 16.09.09 11:51:48
> An: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Betreff: LF: Special event HF70W


> Dear LF
> Special event HF70W will be activity in night saturday/sunday 19/20
> September and 4/5 October.
> This friday (18 September) worked on 137,700kHz, QRSS3  from 20:00=
 UTC.
> --
> Vy 73!
> Marcin SQ2BXI
> HF70W - SP2KDS Team
>
>




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Dear Laurence, LF Group,

The 468kHz frequency does seem to be slated for Chinese Navtex broadcasts - 
apparently 424kHz is being used for Japanese language Navtex too. This seems 
to coincide with a general shift to using 490kHz for Navtex weather 
forecasts instead of "local language" as it was originally supposed to be.

I beleive the international agreements relating to Navtex say that "no more 
than 1kW" should be used for Navtex broadcasts, and then only under 
exceptional circumstances, in order to minimise mutual QRM. but if you look 
at manufacturer's TX offerings, you will struggle to find one less than 1kW. 
Fun for DXers, I suppose, but not so clever when you actually need the info!

Several years ago when a 500kHz allocation was first mooted, I spent some 
time listening to 500kHz, and most nights used to hear Italian coast 
stations - IAR was one I think. They would appear on 500k and tell you to 
QSY to some nearby frequency. When you did so they would broadcast a long 
list of ships' callsigns, I presume who they had traffic for. But I never 
did hear any 2-way operating, and got the impression the whole thing was 
computer generated. I haven't heard these coast stations since about 2003, 
or maybe before.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU

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Im asked whether 500kcs or  kHz etc is still in use here and yes it is - 
heres a TTT TTT Nav warning on 500.00 Khz at  Hr +18 from XSV Tianjin radio 
about 15 miles from me just a few mins ago.



I dont hear Ship to Ship or Ship to Shore on MF, or should I say I havent 
yet and none of my ships or platforms are equipped here, but the Chinese 
announced back in 2007 that 486 Khz (assigned) is to be used for a "National 
language channel" - Im not sure if this relates to safety traffic/navtex or 
gen bsct - or  whatever, but Tianjin is just increasing its output power on 
that freq to 5Kw, and dont I know it.




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M0BMU very clear at 503.840 WSPR:

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Hi Lubos,

Thank you for your report.

73,

Gary - G4WGT.

2009/9/12 Lubos OK2BVG <bvgbob@hotmail.com>:
> Hello LF!
>
> 1940=A0=A0 5=A0 0.9=A0=A0 1.503925=A0 0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 1946=A0=A0 7=A0 0.8=A0=A0 1.503925=A0 0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
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Thanks Roelof..!

It looks like a fairly narrow band preamp with good Q...I guess it depends 
on the Q of the inductors...I'll put the design to good use..! 
73...Jordan....

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From: "Roelof Bakker" <roelof@ndb.demon.nl>
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> Hello Jordan,
>
> Sorry for the delay, I just forgot to answer your question.
>
> In the attachment you will find the circuit diagram of a tuneable
> pre-amplifier.
> I have build several of these and the frequency response is quite narrow.
> The circuit has ample gain and using the rf-gain control, the tuned
> circuit is "damped", which broadens the response. The gain is realised by
> the impedance transformation of the tuned circuit, which results in
> considerable voltage gain. The amplifier is a voltage follower with an
> output impedance of 50 ohm.
>
> Best regards,
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While testing WSPR I noticed K1JT was 10.140234 at 2148 UTC. (-16dB)

Peter, G3LDO



John P-G wrote:
>
> Jay,
>
> I know K1JT is active on 500kHz RX, but I think Andy had a fair point 
> about other people not setting their WSPR data correctly, judging from 
> the spot below:-
>
> 2009-09-20 18:16 SM6BHZ 0.503926 +12 0    JO57wq    2 K1JT FN20
>
>
> With the best will in the world I don't think K1JT is receiving Gus at 
> +12dB on 500kHz, at 18:00UTC when most of the path is in daylight :-)
>
> John
> GM4SLV
>
>
> jrusgrove@comcast.net wrote:
>> Andy
>>
>> K1JT, AA1A, W1XP, W1VD and W1TAG have been watching for EU WSPR. All 
>> display correct station information.
>>
>> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>
>
>
>
>



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Thanks Gus you are my best Dx to date, just slightly further out than John
PG.

 

A bit more ant work today on matching and also making an umbrella antenna as
per design of M0BMU (thanks Jim).   Hopefully I can squeeze a bit more
efficiency out and persuade the TX to load into the system and not spool
back due to reactance

 

Next milestone is 1000km+

 

With best regards

 

 

Jim

 

 

Dr. James Cowburn

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yle=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>A bit more ant=
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Graham,

Yes, ok on that, I have left it running but not really for any
purpose. It can still be useful, thanks.

Finally connected transverter up to the class D Tx & got no output,
then remembered it requires freq x2 input, still no output. Need to
carry out some checks now back in original mode & make sure it is
still working :-((

G...


2009/9/8 Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>:
> Gary,
>
> Leaving the=A0 beacon plotter=A0 running is quite=A0 useful as its givin=
g a plot
> of the background noise over time
>
> G ,,
>
>
> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html
>

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Early reports of my WSPR beacon from G3XVL and M0BMU suggest a VERY slight
improvement (2-3dB at best) has been achieved. Let's hope  a few others spot
me tonight.

73s
Roger G3XBM

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http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
G3XBM    GQRP 1678      ISWL G11088

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Early reports of my WSPR beacon from G3XVL and M0BMU suggest a VERY slight=
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hers spot me tonight. <br><br>73s<br>Roger G3XBM<br clear=3D"all"><br>----=
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Pretty strong in Bracknell Andy, nicely flattening the AGC .... see 
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PS the RX is set to 136,8kHz USB. 

John

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On 22/09/2009 at 17:52 Claude Berthebaud wrote:

>Good evening John
>Can you give me your conditions of reception in any case thank you for 
>control at the moment I can not go below 20w hi ..
>thank you again
>F8boj Claude JN16WA
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>> Still 30dB over and 569 by ear at 1545z.
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>> F5VLF
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Bless you Dex! Many thanks.


> http://lwca.org/library/reference/LORAN/loran_lines.htm


>> Help! At one time there was a list of Loran lines visible within the 
>> 2200m allocation but it seems to have vanished. Is there still a source 
>> of this valuable info available somewhere on the web?
>> 
>> Steve



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Thanks for the report Dave

I closed the tx as the  audio feed to the  tx was dropping  out  .capt=
ured a frequency jump  .. only  wspr  , not speclab using the same  ca=
rd .. . why ive no idea ..looking for  my  2 lbs  hammer=20

73 - G ..=20


From: Dave G3WCB=20
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 10:50 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Subject: LF: G0NBD G7NKS SM6BHZ M0BMU WSPR


Dear LF
  WSPR records for  G0NBD G7NKS SM6BHZ M0BMU (a small selection). =20

  Again, no sign of Roger so far, but I'll leave it running over night=
.
  2122 -16  0.9   0.503959  0 G7NKS IO92 27
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  2128  14  0.2   0.503841  0 M0BMU IO91 33
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  2142  14  0.0   0.503841  0 M0BMU IO91 33
  2144   0  1.1   0.503888  0 G0NBD IO83 23
  2144  -2  0.3   0.503926  0 SM6BHZ JO57 33=20


  73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM



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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Thanks for the report Dave</FONT></DI=
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>I closed the tx as the&nbsp; audio fe=
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN class=3D071434621-17092009>Dear=
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Dear Jean Pierre, LF
It is HF70W QRSS 60 signal.
Vy 73!
Marcin SQ2BXI

> Hello LF'ers ,
>
> I copy on 137,778 unidentified signal ?
> 22:00 => 23:00 utc ( see on picture )
>
> 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj
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Hello Jim, LF!
I have connected my LF aerial through divider 1/2, so I am able to use two=
 LF receivers simultaneously now. The first is on 137.777 for QRSS60, the=
 second would be for WSPR experiments on 137kHz.=20
I hope to decode your WSPR signal!

73!

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

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> From: james.moritz@btopenworld.com
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 08:07:57 +0100
> Subject: Re: LF: Re: WSPR 137.0k
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> I forgot to say the beacon shut down at about 0700utc...
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> ----- Original Message -----=20
> From: "James Moritz" <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>
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> > Dear LF Group,
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> > Thanks to all for the overnight reports/decodes. I also set my RX to=
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> > listen for WD2XES on 137.577k, but no decodes here - perhaps not supri=
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> > considering the level of QRN!
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> > Cheers, Jim Moritz
> > 73 de M0BMU
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<br>Hello Jim, LF!<br>I have connected my LF aerial through divider 1/2,=
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G'day Laurence,

I have a capture of the GV beacon at this link:

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Look for the entry at the top dated 18/09/09 and click on the thumbnai=
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73 Steve VK2ZTO (also VK2XV)
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>G'day Laurence,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>I have a capture of the GV beacon at this=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>73 Steve VK2ZTO (also VK2XV)</FONT></DIV>
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Mal, looking back at my post, I didn't say anywhere that "I have limited
knowledge".  Perhaps you are confusing my post with one from someone else?  

Confusion and memory issues are common traits in the elderly, so I wouldn't
worry about it too much if I were you.   

As for "opinions" they too are rather commonplace in amateur radio with most
operators holding dear several of them.

I'm pleased to hear of your excellent QSO results, good stuff

Keep at it


With best regards
 
 
Jim
 
 
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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal hamilton
Sent: 21 September 2009 18:12
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Subject: LF: Re: RE: defence of WSPR Signals

James if you were a competent CW operator you would think different, like 
you say you have limited knowledge.
WSPR beacons ARE a LAZY APPROACH no skills required and vy limited regarding

propagation predictions.
I had two nice solid QSO'S two nights ago on CW/QRS to Russia and Romania. I

did not need WSPR assistance. Any experienced CW operator can check a band 
and give an opinion about propagation in real time, then proceed to make a 
QSO.
G3KEV

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "James Cowburn" <james.cowburn@virgin.net>
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Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 3:47 PM
Subject: LF: RE: defence of WSPR Signals


> Adding my thoughts to the debate, 500Khz and WSPR has rekindled my 
> interest
> in radio and I am learning lots in new areas.  As a G7 and not an expert 
> in
> CW, if CW was the only means of communication on the band then I would not
> have been as able to participate, experiment and learn as I have done with
> WSPR.  Additionally, the use of WSPR on other bands encouraged me on to 
> 500
> as I was definitely "weak signal" and now I am trying and enjoying CW QSOs
> too.
>
> The database and software allow the analysis and deduction of lots of info
> and data from the reports and their locations.
>
> For me it is not a case of CW vs WSPR (or indeed other data modes e.g. 
> WOLF)
> but far more having a go at them all in a challenging environment and 
> giving
> the old grey matter a bit of a "run out" and learning some new stuff into
> the bargain i.e. self training.
>
> As I have said in other posts, it whacks the pants off 20m SSB for sense 
> of
> achievement and enjoyment (as well as outright frustration!)
>
> I'm sure once we've all got WSPR sorted we'll be running WSJT in QSO mode
> and then we can exchange information as per the original poster's comment.
>
> Just my thoughts and YMMV
>
> With best regards
>
>
> Jim
>
>
> Dr. James Cowburn
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Peter Cleall
> Sent: 21 September 2009 14:18
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Cc: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: LF: defence of WSPR Signals
>
> I have always been interested in propagation.
> These WSPR signals are seen by some as repetitious rubbish.
>
> If you use , WSPR, the Internet database and your own receptions you soon
> realise that there are subtle variations in signal particularly QSB that 
> are
> different over day/ night paths, transitions at dawn and dusk and
> differences on N/S and E/W paths. Northern stations seem favoured for E/W
> propagation and distance between stations also has an effect.
>
> At last we have software and a process for examining in near real time the
> subtlety of these variations. We can see the signal reports from many
> distances and directions at the same time. I think we will learn a lot 
> more
> over the winter if we continue with these tests. I would like to think 
> that
> in the future we could have some coordinated test times which would get a
> greater number of receiving participants available at the same time.
>
> Personally I have been working on propagation with WSPR for several months
> on 30m. But  the recent activity by Andy, Jim and others has resulted in 
> me
> hunting out my 137kHz equipment that has not been used for a couple of 
> years
> and rebuilding a converter to hear my first signals on 500khz , since the
> commercial stations disappeared. I can see from the other reports on the
> database that I need to do more work on Aerials and i suspect that I still
> have a lot to learn about signals and equipment overload. Thee existence 
> of
> a few known reference signals is essential to improving ones equipment and
> knowledge. I t think this is all part of the spirit of amateur radio for 
> our
> self education in radio techniques which is a major justification for us 
> to
> have licenses.
>
> regards
> peterG8AFN
>
>
> Sep 21, 2009 10:52:38 AM, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org wrote:
>
> ===========================================
>
> WSPR signals last evening copied from G4JNT, G4WGT, G7NKS and SM6BHZ on
> 500kHz. Also very strong signal during the day from M0BMU on 137kHz.My
> report of your DFCW signal on 137 the other day, Jim, had the wrong
> frequency - sorry about that, added the difference 20Hz rather than
> subtracted from my RX offset - should have been 137.68 of course.Tend to
> agree with Mal's comments, I am having difficulty in seeing the point of
> some of this when there is little in the way of exchanged information
> between stations. There is a place for beacons, certainly. What concerns 
> me
> is that the casual listener tuning across the band probably has no idea
> there's anybody on.Vy 73,Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent, JO01MI.
>
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Dear Jordan, Roelof, LF Group,

I have used a very similar circuit to the one in Roelof's schematic for some 
time (it is in the RSGB's "Radio communication handbook", and "LF Today"- I 
should declare an interest as a co-author of these).  With slight 
modifications it can be quite versatile. In my version, the input RF gain 
pot is omitted, and the antenna is connected direct to the tuning inductor. 
Gain is adjusted by a shunt capacitor between the antenna and ground, which 
ranges between several 100pF for a short wire to several nF for bigger 
antennas, making the input circuit into a pi network. Generally the same 
shunt capacitance is satisfactory over the whole tuning range. The shunt 
capacitor can be partly or wholly made up of the capacitance of a coax 
feeder, so quite long feeders can be used, e.g. one leg of an existing HF 
dipole. Alternatively, the antenna can be a large wire loop (say 10m^2 or 
so), in which case the shunt capacitor is omitted - again, the antenna can 
be fed through quite long lengths of coax.

Because the input tuner is essentially a low-pass filter circuit with a 
sharp peak in its response, it works well at rejecting the very local MW 
broadcasters here, although I have had problems with very small ferrite 
cored inductors saturating - using larger chokes, or series combinations of 
smaller values cured this. I have used it with inductors of up to 200mH, and 
1000pF tuning capacitance, to tune to the bottom of the VLF range. The 
tuning is very sharp, but this is not a problem for receiving the narrow 
136kHz and 500kHz amateur bands.

The amplifier section in my version is similar, except instead of the 2N5109 
I have used lower-frequency and cheaper transistors such as 2N3053, BD135, 
BFY51, etc, which work fine at these frequencies. The biasing in my circuit 
is a bit different - I have eliminated the 680R, 2k2, 10k, 470n and 47R 
coupling and bias components, and instead connected the source direct to the 
base, and a 100R resistor between base and emitter in a "bootstrapped" 
arrangement. This compound follower arrangement has been very useful as a 
high impedance, low noise buffer in several LF/MF applications.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
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Hi Claude!

My modest report: 
http://rw3adb.narod.ru/2009/20sep2009_F8BOJ/135.5W_120_00013.jpg
Looooong dash into mode-120 rx'd.
There is no trace actually into mode-90 as yet.
http://rw3adb.narod.ru/2009/20sep2009_F8BOJ/135.5W_90_00025.jpg

Roman

* Andrey rn3agc <rn3agc@mail.ru> [Sun, 20 Sep 2009 23:03:22 -0000]:
> Hi Claude,
> Magnificent signal!
> My locator KO85sv.
> Argo in modes 3s and 90s
>
> 73
> Andrey
>
> * "f8boj-3.jpg"
> * "f8boj-90.jpg"



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Jim, Gus, group-=20

=20

Ill do the same routine tonight and Ill put the China grabber on too for=
 "graphicals" - Other Sigs were detectable but not decodeable till after=
 my dawn this morning and I need to look around and see what else there wa=
s. I didnt do that this morning - I left my dang 500khz LPF in Alaska so=
 will have to build another one here as I am getting some rubbish from all=
 my local blowtorch MF stations.

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http://kl1x.com/2dx00000.jpg   will show part of the China MF WSPR window=
 tonight i Hope.

=20

We dont have a path from Alaska to Eu at the moment but from Oct onwards=
 it looks possible and Ill bring that receiver online when it looks feasib=
le or probably a bit before!

=20

Laurence KL1X in China
=20
> From: james.moritz@btopenworld.com
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 00:14:15 +0100
> Subject: Re: LF: Re: SM6BHZ into China
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> Laurence, Gus, LF Group,
>=20
> Thanks - found it in the WSPRnet database eventually... I was surprised=
 I=20
> had not noticed BY3A at the time, but I think the database was filling=
 up so=20
> fast at that time it just flew off the bottom of the page before I saw=
 it! I=20
> did wonder why Gus was running 100% TX duty cycle.
>=20
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Jim, Gus, group- <BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Ill do the same routine tonight and Ill put the China grabber on too for=
 "graphicals" - Other Sigs were detectable but not decodeable till after=
 my dawn this morning and I need to look around and see what else there wa=
s. I didnt do that this morning - I left my dang 500khz LPF in&nbsp;Alaska=
 so will have to build another one here as I am getting some rubbish from=
 all my local blowtorch MF stations.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
<A href=3D"http://kl1x.com/2dx00000.jpg">http://kl1x.com/2dx00000.jpg</A>&=
nbsp;&nbsp; will show part of the China MF WSPR window tonight i Hope.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
We dont have a path from Alaska to Eu at the moment but from Oct onwards=
 it looks possible and Ill bring that receiver&nbsp;online when it looks=
 feasible or probably a bit before!<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Laurence KL1X&nbsp;in China<BR>&nbsp;<BR>&gt; From: james.moritz@btopenwor=
ld.com<BR>&gt; To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR>&gt; Date: Sun, 6 Sep=
 2009 00:14:15 +0100<BR>&gt; Subject: Re: LF: Re: SM6BHZ into China<BR>&gt=
; <BR>&gt; Laurence, Gus, LF Group,<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Thanks - found it in=
 the WSPRnet database eventually... I was surprised I <BR>&gt; had not not=
iced BY3A at the time, but I think the database was filling up so <BR>&gt;=
 fast at that time it just flew off the bottom of the page before I saw it=
! I <BR>&gt; did wonder why Gus was running 100% TX duty cycle.<BR>&gt; <B=
R>&gt; Cheers, Jim Moritz<BR>&gt; 73 de M0BMU<BR>&gt;_____________________=
_______________________<BR>&gt; With Windows Live, you can organize, edit,=
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1718 -20  0.6   0.503942  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
1720 -21  0.6   0.503942  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
1722 -21  0.8   0.503942  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
1724 -22  0.7   0.503942  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
1726 -21  0.8   0.503942  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
1728 -19  0.9   0.503942  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
1730 -19  0.7   0.503942  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
73s pa3ego jo22mb



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At 04:38 AM 9/11/2009, I wrote:
[..]
  once you accumulate half a Hz of frequency offset adding in more 
samples actually hurts more than it helps because 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
(that should be half a cycle, not Hz)

destructive interference sets in.




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Hi Jim, LF!

On Andrey's grabber only:
http://www.rn3agc.msk.ru/grabber1.shtml
negative copy in my loc today.

> M0BMU very clear at 503.840 WSPR:
>
> 193400 4 11 1.5 -896 0 M0BMU IO91 33
>
> 73 - IK1ODO - JN35sa


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Laurence had mentioned that conditions seemed good last night. I had 22 lines of SM6BHZ WSPR copy between 2340 and 0154Z from Massachusetts (FN42ch). Copy started and ended earlier than usual. 

John, W1TAG


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OK Markus,
I produce the sound and CW via mic and MD player and a simpel Hand-Pum=
p so the level is't checked.
That could be the reason :-)

de Gus

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  oops, one word was missing...

  Generally the CW part seems a bit louder than the voice peaks.

  73, Markus

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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, September 24,=
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John, Roger & Group,

It took me several attempts to calibrate the sound card but OK now.

Gary - G4WGT.

2009-09-10 20:30:17 >WOLF10  -r 7985.608 -f 800 -t 3.0 -w 0.0000 -ut
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2009/9/10 John P-G <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk>:
> Roger Lapthorn wrote:
>>
>> Well, easy for some (I can see) but NOT for me. What am I doing wrong?
>>
>
>
> Roger,
>
> Unfortunately I don't think I can help, as I'm a total novice at WOLF, so
> can't really come up with any quick fixes!
>
> All I did was set the centre frequency to match the USB tuning offset - tune
> low 1kHz to 502.5 and set centre frequency to 1000Hz.
>
> I think pretty much everything else standard.
>
> Looking at my version I see that under "Mode"... I have "Receive Only"
> ticked, "WOLF 10[symbols/sec] " ---> "Normal Speed" ticked.
>
> That's all I've done initially and it worked. Lawrence in China suggested I
> try to calibrate my soundcard, so I followed his suggestion.
>
> I know, as has been discussed before, that WSPR is often touchy about
> soundcard sampling rates and string signals.
>
> Don't know if WOLF is the same.
>
> But at least can adjust for this in the software with WOLF though.
>
> Tune to 197kHz in USB mode. THe Radio 4 carrier should be at 1kHz. If you've
> chosen a 1kHz centre frequency, on the WOLF Config tab there's a button
> marked "Cal" in the receive options area. Press it. It will work out a
> correction factor for your soundcard. I think you're then asked to accept
> the value offerred... do this and then start again. See if this fixes
> things.
>
> As Dave YMC rightly comments - this might be one to try and then forget,
> although it seems (of setup correctly) to be quite sensitive.
>
> Cheers,
>
> John
> GM4SLV
>
>
>
>
>


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Jim, Alan,

     Fritz does NOT represent all of the US 500kHz activity and his
band plan is not being followed here by non-XSH stations so I would
take all this with a large grain of salt.  Keep in mind that in
addition to WD2XSH there is WE2XPQ, WD2XFX, and WE2XTT, and a half
dozen WE2XGR stations as well as other pending applications.

--=20
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
                WE2XEB/2
                WE2XGR/1




On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Alan Melia <alan.melia@btinternet.com> wr=
ote:
> Hi Jim. whist it involves a change in "usage" from our end it would not=
 seem
> unreasonable to ensure that the US stations have a chance of hearing us
> without nearby swamping. I think this is an interesting development beca=
suse
> it now seems that Frtiz is extending the experiment to intercontinental
> tests/qsos.......an activity he discouraged earlier....due to the terms=
 of
> the original application and grant I believe. I have to admit my opinion=
s
> carry very little weight as a "non-active operator" :-)) But maybe it wi=
ll
> stimulate others with differing opinions to voice them to you.
>
> Best wishes
> Alan G3NYK
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "James Moritz" <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 2:14 PM
> Subject: LF: Re: US 500-kHz band plan
>
>
>> Dear LF Group,
>>
>> I still haven't replied to Fritz Raab, W1FR, regarding the WD2XSH US ba=
nd
>> plan which he is apparently coordinating - you may remember I posted th=
e
> US
>> proposals, which he sent me, a couple of weeks ago, but have not receiv=
ed
>> any comments from other UK/Eu stations. I think I should reply with
>> something, so now is your chance... The proposal relates to the US
>> allocation extending to 495 - 515kHz, and how that would fit in with
> current
>> UK and Eu beacon operations. The content of the e-mail is below. The is=
sue
>> is that they would like to make a 501.0 - 501.2kHz WSPR sub-band, to fi=
t
> in
>> with the various other proposals. Various other types of beacon modes=
 are
>> allocated frequencies outside the UK/EI/ON 501 - 504kHz range, while
> 501.2 -
>> 504kHz is allocated to "general comms". Retaining frequencies just belo=
w
>> 504kHz would divide their "general comms" band in two
>>
>> I don't think there is anything preventing us from doing this, it is ju=
st
>> the inconvenience of turning the current band "upside-down". Let me kno=
w
>> what you think!
>>
>> Cheers, Jim Moritz
>> 73 de M0BMU
>>
>> >>>From W1FR:
>>
>> Greetings:
>>
>> =A0 =A0 =A0Thanks for the comments on the band plan, passed
>> along to me by W1XP.
>>
>> =A0 =A0 =A0About a month ago, a modification to the WD2XSH
>> license was approved that adds stations and gives us
>> access to 495 - 510 kHz. =A0Perhaps half of the 42 stations
>> will eventually get on the air. =A0Because of NDBs, some
>> stations are limited to parts of this band and we will
>> have two calling frequencies and two beacon bands.
>>
>> =A0 =A0 =A0A draft of our new band plan follows. =A0Of particular
>> interest is WSPR. =A0As I see it, our options are:
>>
>> (a) =A0501.0-501.2: =A0Conveniently on one side of our comms
>> =A0 =A0 =A0band. =A0Will not overload WSPR receivers near 504 kHz.
>> =A0 =A0 =A0Apparently in EU CW-beacon band.
>>
>> (b) =A0503.8-504.0: =A0Apparently same as what you guys are
>> =A0 =A0 =A0using. =A0Cuts our comms band in the middle. =A0Nearby
>> =A0 =A0 =A0stations may overload US receivers trying to hear EUs.
>>
>> (c) =A0503.9-504.1: =A0Same problems as above with cutting
>> =A0 =A0 =A0comms band in two and overloading. =A0Conveniently
>> =A0 =A0 =A0straddles both G/ON/EI and Canadian bands.
>>
>> =A0 =A0 =A0Any further thoughts you may have will be
>> appreciated.
>>
>>
>> 73, Fritz, W1FR
>>
>> Frederick H. (Fritz) Raab, Ph.D.
>> GREEN MOUNTAIN RADIO RESEARCH COMPANY
>> 77 Vermont Avenue, Fort Ethan Allen
>> Colchester, Vermont 05446 =A0USA
>> Tel./Fax.: =A0+1 (802) 655-9670 =A0Home: =A0+1 (802) 862-0997
>> E-mail: =A0f.raab@ieee.org
>>
>> BASIC BAND PLAN for WD2XSH
>>
>> f, kHz =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0USE
>>
>> 495.0 - 495.1 =A0 QRSS, 1-Hz spacing, 40 stations
>> 495.1 - 495.6 =A0 CW/PSK beacons midwest, 100-Hz spacing, 10 stations
>> 495.6 - 499.0 =A0 Comms
>> 497.5 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Calling frequency
>> 499.0 - 501.0 =A0 Reserved for heritage stations and special events
>> 501.0 - 501.2 =A0 WSPR
>> 501.2 - 505.0 =A0 Comms
>> 505.0 - 505.2 =A0 DX window
>> 505.2 - 508.5 =A0 Comms
>> 507.5 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Calling frequency
>> 508.5 - 510.0 =A0 CW/PSK beacons east, south, west, Pacific, 50-Hz spac=
ing,
> 30
>> stations
>> 510.0 - 511.0 =A0 WE2XGR beacons
>> 511.0 - 515.0 =A0 WE2XGR SSB and wideband modes
>>
>>
>> OTHER IN-BAND SIGNALS
>>
>> 503.976 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 NEED LSB
>> 505.0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 NEED carrier
>> 506.024 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 NEED USB
>>
>> 508.976 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 OF/FA LSB
>> 510.0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 OF/FA carrier
>> 511.024 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 OF/FA USB
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>>
>
>
>

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Hi Laurence!
100% UA4WPF! fine business!
I'm read his message in RUS-DW yahoo-group.

>>=C4=E0=FE =EC=E0=FF=EA =E2 =ED=EE=F7=FC =F1 18 =ED=E0 19 =F1=E5=ED=F2=FF=
=E1=F0=FF 2009 =E3.
-I can make an beacon at 18 up to 19 sep 2009 tonight.
>>beacon (W_--) DFCW 240 F=3D137.77725 18 - 02 UTC Loc.LO66PU
>>73!
>>Anatol
>>UA4WPF

Roman

* Laurence BY3A-KL1X China <hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com> [Fri, 18 Sep=
=20
2009 14:14:37 -0800]:
>
> Sorry that should have been 137.7772 ish  - too early in the
> morning....of course it could be a "W" !
>
>
>
> Wheres the coffee....
>
>
>
> From: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 13:43:19 -0800
> Subject: LF: 137.772
>
>
>
> Good early morning - Who is M on this freq out to my West? As it gets
> daylight a Loran line will appear close to this freq and is just (just
> visible)
>
> DCF39 is S7 this mng :-))
>
> Laurence in BY3A OM89UA
>
>
>
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=20

Gus, LF - GE

=20

One successful decode from the "B" SDR IQ receiver and  Dell 630

=20

2050  -29  0.9  0.503925  0  SMBHZ JO57 40  (reported as BY3X) =20

=20

Im definately getting better decodes on the SDR/D630 than the R75/Dell 610=
. Whether this is a result of the  A>D loss which the R75 analogue incurs=
  coming down to audio etc - or a true receiver artifact remains to be see=
n, but its the same on HF as well - Ill swop them over, or parts of the sy=
stem and will try to see where the improvement is.

=20

Now I know absolutely know that for my listening pleasure the R75 knocks=
 spots on sensitivity and other filtering/AGC/NB over the SDR IQ  -  but=
 in a highly processed, right on the edge -29/-30 world, heavy noise envir=
onment with plenty of RF perhaps the pure D to D SDR makes that little dif=
ference.  Or it could really be the processing power and divisors between=
 the two computers....lots of variables here so Im still not sure.

=20

Its was really noisy and surprised to get anything -there is a large Typho=
on between Hainan Island and Hong Kong which appears to be the largest noi=
se maker.

=20

Cheers

Laurence in BY3A

just dawn now in  E China.

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&nbsp;<BR>
Gus, LF - GE<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
One successful decode from the "B" SDR IQ receiver and&nbsp; Dell 630<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
2050&nbsp; -29&nbsp; 0.9&nbsp; 0.503925&nbsp; 0&nbsp;&nbsp;SMBHZ JO57 40&n=
bsp; (reported as BY3X)&nbsp; <BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Im definately getting better decodes on the SDR/D630 than the R75/Dell 610=
. Whether this is a result of the&nbsp; A&gt;D loss which the R75 analogue=
 incurs&nbsp; coming down to audio etc - or a true receiver artifact remai=
ns to be seen, but its the same on HF as well - Ill swop them over, or par=
ts of the system and will try to see where the improvement is.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Now I know absolutely know that for my listening pleasure the R75 knocks=
 spots on sensitivity and other filtering/AGC/NB over the&nbsp;SDR IQ&nbsp=
; - &nbsp;but in a highly processed, right on the edge -29/-30 world, heav=
y noise environment with plenty of RF perhaps the pure D to D SDR makes th=
at little difference.&nbsp; Or it could really be the processing power and=
 divisors between the two computers....lots of variables here so Im still=
 not sure.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Its was really noisy and surprised to get anything -there is a large Typho=
on between Hainan Island and Hong Kong which appears to be the largest noi=
se maker.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Cheers<BR>
Laurence in BY3A<BR>
just dawn now in&nbsp; E China.<BR><br /><hr />Hotmail: Free, trusted and=
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A few spots in the quiet dawn hours from MOBMU have now pushed my WSPR logs
to 3 different people, with best DX 69kms.

 2009-09-14 05:52  G3XBM  0.503829  -26  0  JO02dg  0.001  M0BMU  IO91vr
 69  210
Thanks Jim.and others

73s
Roger G3XBM
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A few spots in the quiet dawn hours from MOBMU have now pushed my WSPR log=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi Dave</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The DX season has started are u ready=
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ck out condx USA/UK. Now in QSO mode CW and QRS3 beaming USA and=20
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Hello Group!

I haven't followed the list very closely recently and so I might have
missed something.

Could anybody please tell me what kind of signal is permanently on
137140? (Always visible on the DF6NM-grabber)

It seems to be modulated in some way and I have heard it is WSPR. Though
I can receive this signal in JN88HL, WSPR-software failed to decode.

Thanks in advance and

Cheers

OE3GHB

Gerhard Hickl





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My 500kHz beacon has just been turned back on again. Any reports or
screenshots would be appreciated.  It would be lovely to have some reports
from a few new stations too and I'd just love to get >100kms with the
current QRP set-up.

73s
Roger
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G3XBM    GQRP 1678      ISWL G11088

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My 500kHz beacon has just been turned back on again. Any reports or screen=
shots would be appreciated.=A0 It would be lovely to have some reports fro=
m a few new stations too and I&#39;d just love to get &gt;100kms with the=
 current QRP set-up.<br>
<br>73s<br>Roger<br>-- <br>-----------------------------------------------=
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bm.co.uk</a><br>
G3XBM =A0 =A0GQRP 1678 =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL G11088<br>

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LF group,
DI2AM signal good copied this evening.
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James Cowburn wrote:
> Hi John
> 
> Let me know if you rx the new and improved G7NKS!
> 

James, LF,


Almost too easy now!

090911 2024    -24  1.1   0.503943  G7NKS IO92 23
090911 2032    -24  1.2   0.503942  G7NKS IO92 23
090911 2054    -27  0.9   0.503942  G7NKS IO92 23
090911 2114    -26  1.2   0.503942  G7NKS IO92 23
090911 2130    -24  1.5   0.503942  G7NKS IO92 23
090911 2150    -18  1.5   0.503942  G7NKS IO92 23


Will stay on 502.4 WSPR overnight to compare with previous fleeting 
reception of you on previous occasions.

It's looking good so far though, as I've never had any decodes so early 
before.

Cheers,

John


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Chris, John,

indeed, in theory radiation resistance is proportional to the square =20
of the height (for a short vertical antenna).
So "jacking up" the antenna even a few meter is worth the efford.
As a bonus the heigher antenna has a larger capacitance (although this =20
effect is less if you have good topload) and often (but not always) a =20
lower loss resistance (cfr the footprint theory of G3AQC).
I am in the onfortunate situtation when the loss resistance increases =20
with antenna height, because the antenna (topload) is over an open =20
grass area (30 by 45m) surrounded by forrest. As the antenna height =20
increases the footprint increases and it then includes more forrested =20
area. This results in a larger loss resistance. But even in this =20
situation the benefit of a larger radiation resistance overrules the =20
increased loss:
- antenna height 6m =3D 35 Ohm loss
- antenna height 11m =3D 45 Ohm loss (=3D +29%, but Rrad =3D +336%)

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

Quoting John P-G <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk>:

> Chris wrote:
>> ....and how does 'Jacking up' the antenna increase the ERP?
>> Chris, G4AYT.
>
> Chris,LF,
>
>   Presumably by increasing the height one increases the capacity and the
> the radiation resistance and thus the ERP will rise for a given TX power
> and antenna current? One probably also reduces the loss resistance too,
> due to needing less loading L, so the current might also increase,
> leading to yet more ERP for a fixed TX power.
>
> John
> GM4SLV
>
>
>



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Hi Willem and LF group 
Many thanks for the pics repport excellente copy...
good evening best 73s 
Claude F8BOJ JN16WA
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Ee by gum! Tha's a bit tender on that 'un arnt thee!

I sed sem thin' to thee las week and tha bit me 'and off abaht it.  

'appen thee 's more Yorkshire than thee think.  Grumpy 'n maungy like.

You can allus tell a yorkshireman, but you can't tell 'im much!

Relevance to LF/MF?  Nowt! 


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Jim
 
 
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-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal hamilton
Sent: 22 September 2009 10:43
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Steve
I am not from Yorkshire and therefore the Yorkshire accent is non 
applicable.
POME = PRISONER OF OLD MOTHER ENGLAND and that is also non applicacable.
We have strayed away from LF/MF time to get back on track What is WSPR doing

for AUSTRALIA?
G3KEV

----- Original Message ----- 
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> G'day Mal,
>
> Still reeling 'em in I see.
>
>
>>
>> I have heard a lot worse said about POME'S from AUS sources over the
>> years.
>>
>
> Nah - I'm not a POME-basher, sorry I can't give you that out.   Some of my
> best friends are POMs.    Good bunch of chaps in my experience.
>
>>
>> Glad that I am not a POME.
>>
>
> Don't worry - you are not - rest assured you are in a class completely of
> your own.
>
>>
>> de G3KEV now back to pounding the morse key, 20 metres looks good at
>> present.
>>
>
> I hope "morse key" is not a euphemism.....
>
> As the actress said to the ham operator..."Is that a morse key I see in 
> your
> hand - or are you just pleased to see me ?".... ;-)
>
> Keep throwing out the bait....
>
> BTW - for my own entertainment I have been listening to some Yorkshire
> accents from the BBC.    Don't know whether you are a native speaker of 
> them
> thar parts, but blimey mate, I thought 'strine was hard for non-Aussies to
> understand until I heard a Yorkshire accent.   If you are a native speaker

> I
> can fully understand why you would prefer CW and emails.    That mode is
> excellent for allowing foreign speakers to understand each other - even
> across counties.
>
> Nice to hook up with you again.
>
> 73 Steve
>
>


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Hi Chris and all=20
Thank you for your mail ... I am very happy to spend too for your qth=
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I hope you find a qso=20
F8boj Claude JN16WA
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Chris=20
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  Hi Claude,
  Your signal excellent here copy here, sorry can't get back to you.
  Vy 73,
  Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent, UK, (JO01MI).

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2022  -9  1.9   0.503941  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
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hi Marcin and LF
GM is f8boj error frequence in qrss3 change frequency for 137740hz  =
 qsl...!
qsl...F8boj Claude jn16wa----- Original Message -----=20
From: "Marcin" <bxi@go2.pl>
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Subject: Re: LF: Re: What signal on 137,778kHz


Hello Jean Pierre
Your grabber regularly copy my signal:
http://www.sp2kds.pl/images/stories/f1afj.jpg
Vy 73!
Marcin SQ2BXI

Hello Marcin ,

Tnx for info , my antenna are at QTF 295=B0 (USA)

73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

Marcin a =E9crit :
> Dear Jean Pierre, LF
> It is HF70W QRSS 60 signal.
> Vy 73!
> Marcin SQ2BXI
>
>
>> Hello LF'ers ,
>>
>> I copy on 137,778 unidentified signal ?
>> 22:00 =3D> 23:00 utc ( see on picture )
>>
>> 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj
>>
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Hello Lubos , John , Warren ,

Last night good copy of  XGJ and XES (  As at the good old day !  )
XGJ was visible 1:30 after the sunrise

73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj


Lubos OK2BVG a =E9crit :
> Hello Warren, LF!
> I saw your signal in the sunrise time in OK.
>
> 73!
>
> Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS
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> Excellent propagartion world wide on 7Mcs tonite but so far nothing 
exciting on LF/MF

Not so excellent, Mal. You are do not copy me on 40 now. -)

> Mal/g3kev



--
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At 1530z.

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Dear Roger, LF Group,

I intend to run the WOLF beacon again from around 1900utc onwards this 
evening

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU

----- Original Message ----- 
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> All being well I am now ready to RX on WOLF on 502.5kHz (USB dial freq). 
> Is
> anyone planning to TX using WOLF this evening?
>
> 73s
> Roger G3XBM
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------
> http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/
> http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
> G3XBM    GQRP 1678      ISWL G11088
> 



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Roger,

One more thing - since you aren't set up for transceive operation and 
your TX power is fairly low would it be possible for you to operate in 
continuous TX mode. Then we might spot more easily any fleeting openings 
in propagation. It would be a shame to miss a short enhancement if it 
were to occur during one of your non-transmit periods.

Just a thought

John



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Gus, thank You very much for the offer :)
I heard You several times and the signal will be nice, for sure. 

My primary hope was/is to receive a signal from the west, e.g. England.

Thanks again
vy73
Dennis



 
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> Von: "Gus" <begu@algonet.se>
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> Betreff: LF: Re: low noise level today -> like to RX You on 600m

> Dear Dennis,
> I just run WSPR beacon, but i can take a break and transmit for you 15
> min.
> Is it ok if i transmit SSB and CW beacon , 505,5 kHz USB ?
> 
> 73 de Gus SM6BHZ
> 
> www.sm6bhz.com
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dennis" <Dennis.Hennig@gmx.de>
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> Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 11:16 PM
> Subject: LF: low noise level today -> like to RX You on 600m
> 
> 
> >
> > Hi!
> >
> > After some tinkering I'm surprised: The usual QRM is much lower tonight
> on 
> > 500kHz, DI2AM loud and clear by ear.
> >
> > I don't like to discuss pro&contra WSPR, but for today, I do not have
> any 
> > WSPR capabilities.
> > Would You mind to transmit a 10-15 minute CW-Beacon for me?
> >
> > Thanks a lot :)
> >
> > vy73
> > Dennis
> > DL6NVC
> >
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CASE WELL PRESENTED BY DAVE SERGEANT

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Sergeant" <dave@davesergeant.com>
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> On 21 Sep 2009 at 13:17, Peter Cleall wrote:
>
>> I have always been interested in propagation.
>> These WSPR signals are seen by some as repetitious rubbish.
>
> Well having spent a few days looking at WSPR I would tend to fit best
> in the 'repetitious rubbish' group.... WSPR is specifically designed
> for weak signal reception, and there is certainly a case of doing this
> to catch openings to our friends in W and BY land. But at a local level
> I don't think it serves much purpose - it is true that you can
> automatically monitor propagation and QSB rates, but a 2 minute
> sampling time is FAR too long to get any sensible figures from this. At
> my QTH every signal I have copied has been perfectly readable by ear,
> some by a very considerable margin. Once you have monitored for a few
> hours there is little more to be gained and it is a painfully slow mode
> to even consider as a QSO mode.
>
> The USA amateurs are fortunate in having a considerably wider band than
> us. To have what is effective beacon transmissions there for long
> periods in our 3kHz is not the best use of our space.
>
> I shall be very shortly re-configuring my vertical back to its Top Band
> mode for the winter season. If the future of 500kHz lies only in WSPR
> beaconing it is a sad life being an amateur and I have far more useful
> things to do on the other bands.
>
> 73 Dave G3YMC
>
> http://www.davesergeant.com
>
>


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G'day Alberto,

Crikey - I thought your blushing glow had reached VK !!!!!    Woke up to a 
Martian landscape this morning.    Red dust on everything.     Massive dust 
storm has enveloped almost all of NSW.    Last time I saw something like 
this was 40 years ago when I was living about 600km to the west of here. 
But that was on the edge of semi-desert, not the east coast of 
Australia.....

Anyway - back to things LF.

Note your modest remarks on ARGO.     Well, speaking for myself I haven't 
felt a need to try other QRSS viewers.

About SDR - I must confess to being in the dark about that.    I must swot 
up on it.   When I do I will start from your site.

Keep up the good work.

73   Steve Olney - VK2XV

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I have been trying to work out why I have such bad copy of WOLF and 
WSPR (on HF as well as 500kHz) and others report it as 'plug and go' 
and came across a page at http://wsprnet.org/drupal/node/336 which 
explains the problem exactly. It seems that both WOLF and WSPR are 
designed for current sound cards which have 48,000 and 96,000 clock 
rates. Mine is obviously from the old stable so has 44,100 etc rates.

For information it is the sound card interface built into the 
motherboard, an ASR Rock K7S41GX dating from 2003 with generic AC'97 
sound. Zilch more given about its spec in the manual.

I did a test using a 40m broadcast carrier on 7355kHz, with the K2 
tuned to get a 1.5kHz tone.

Argo reports it correctly at 1502Hz, pretty spot on
Wolf (default 8000Hz sampling) reports 1553Hz
WSPR (2000Hz sampling) reports 1534Hz

Obviously the interpolation works differently for the different 
sampling rates of WOLF and WSPR but the effect is obvious.

Being an older card there is no way it will support the 48,000 etc 
sampling rates natively, and there is certainly no switch. In Wolf I 
can play around with the calibration, but there seems no way to do this 
in WSPR.

At least I now know why I, and presumably others, have problems.

73 Dave G3YMC

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Thanks to Gus Jim and others - no decodes overnight here - reasonably high=
 QRN and a "new" carrier have landed on Gus's tx freq 503.950...(?). I got=
 up at 3.00am to check progress so another day of red eyes and imbibing =
 Chinese version of Red Bull. "Maos' Red Flag Ale"

=20

Ill be working on another pre-selector tonight - I left mine (W1VD design)=
 and the LPF back in AK, doh!

=20

I measured 12 descrete carriers on 504 plus or minus 5 Hz - a couple had=
 low level music/speech modulation on them and as suggested are probably=
 8 or 9kHz (x56th etc)  harmonics from local entertainment or other homely=
/industrial devices nearby and not all attributable to RTE..

=20

At 0700 local the local radio MW blow torch stations change to their dayti=
me power and antenna - this causes a few more lines to appear :-((

=20

Laurence

Sunny Tianjin...


=20
> From: james.moritz@btopenworld.com
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 07:07:06 +0100
> Subject: LF: Re: tonight - WOLF10 test
>=20
> Dear LF Group,
>=20
> Thanks for the reports overnight - the WOLF10 beacon closed down at 0600=
utc.
>=20
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU=20
>=20
>=20

_________________________________________________________________
Get back to school stuff for them and cashback for you.
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Thanks to Gus&nbsp;Jim&nbsp;and others - no decodes&nbsp;overnight here -=
 reasonably high QRN and a&nbsp;"new" carrier have landed on Gus's tx freq=
&nbsp;503.950...(?). I got up at 3.00am to check progress so another day=
 of red eyes and imbibing&nbsp;&nbsp;Chinese version of Red Bull. "Maos'=
 Red Flag Ale"<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Ill be working&nbsp;on another&nbsp;pre-selector tonight - I left mine (W1=
VD design)&nbsp;and the LPF back in AK, doh!<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
I measured 12 descrete carriers on 504 plus or minus 5 Hz - a couple had=
 low level music/speech modulation on them and as suggested are probably=
 8 or 9kHz&nbsp;(x56th etc)&nbsp;&nbsp;harmonics from local entertainment=
 or other homely/industrial devices nearby and not all attributable to RTE=
..<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
At 0700 local the local radio MW blow torch stations change to their dayti=
me power and antenna - this causes a few more lines to appear :-((<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Laurence<BR>
Sunny Tianjin...<BR>
<BR>&nbsp;<BR>&gt; From: james.moritz@btopenworld.com<BR>&gt; To: rsgb_lf_=
group@blacksheep.org<BR>&gt; Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 07:07:06 +0100<BR>&gt;=
 Subject: LF: Re: tonight - WOLF10 test<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Dear LF Group,<BR=
>&gt; <BR>&gt; Thanks for the reports overnight - the WOLF10 beacon closed=
 down at 0600utc.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Cheers, Jim Moritz<BR>&gt; 73 de M0BMU=
 <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR><br /><hr />Get back to school stuff for them and=
 cashback for you. <a href=3D'http://www.bing.com/cashback?form=3DMSHYCB&p=
ubl=3DWLHMTAG&crea=3DTEXT_MSHYCB_BackToSchool_Cashback_BTSCashback_1x1' ta=
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In the ideal case of course you have just receiver noise as your 
background noise level. So you adjust your sound card input to give you 
the magic 0dB on that. During the night the static crash level will 
rise and push the S-meter to s9 at times. Every 15 minutes G4JNT will 
do its one minute of transmission on 503.7 at various power levels and 
push the little thing in the box well into the red. So one has to ask 
oneself what exactly the dB figures in reports really mean. The 
adjustment to 0dB will differ widely between different stations 
depending on what the noise level was at the time they adjusted it. And 
as pointed out, 0dB in WSPR with an SSB bandwidth (but only looking at 
200Hz of it) usually implies a signal way over s9 in anybody's terms.

End result, pay no attention to the figure other than a relative 
measure of any individual stations reception, or to monitor QSB. It 
certainly doesn't mean that a -30dB report is 30dB below audible 
copy...

Anyway, I have now given up on WSPR for the moment. Any chance of 
another Wolf transmission before I disconnect the antenna?

73 Dave G3YMC

On 24 Sep 2009 at 9:18, Dave Pick wrote:

> opt-tee-mumish? These technical terms always confuse me....
> 
> ;-)  Dave
> 
> 
> 2009/9/24 Laurence BY3A-KL1X China <hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com>
> 
> >  Red box means its either too low (or recommended level) or too high -
> >  if
> > the box goes White its in the ballpark but Im told 0dB is
> > opt-tee-mumish
> >
> > --
> G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK
> 


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* Roman RW3ADB <rw3adb@rambler.ru> [Mon, 21 Sep 2009 00:12:08 +0400]:
>
> HI, Claude!
> RN3AGC Andrey ask you trying to TX on 137777 up to 2-3 hours later.
> Trying to see you in Moscow.
> The grabbers started ON:
> http://www.rn3agc.msk.ru/grabber1.shtml
> http://qrss.nm.ru/grabber.html
>

You are traced onto RN3AGC grabber: 
http://www.rn3agc.msk.ru/grabber1.shtml
NIL onto my grabber.

--
Roman RW3ADB.


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Turns out the Moose was a baby and the White antennae wire of the K9AY was=
 visible to him. Wonder if you have to change the wire color due to season=
al changes! :-)  Soon be time for the Black wire...snow levels dropping...=
.

=20

Laurence  in by3a.
=20


From: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 17:09:12 -0800
Subject: LF: away



=20
The China http://kl1x.com/2dx00000.jpg grabber, and  Alaska   http://kl1x.=
com/dx00000.jpg grabbers will be on auto over the next 9 days or so, and=
 hopefully under remote control from elsewhere in the globe.=20
=20
I cant guarantee stability or access to the China grabber as "they" are do=
ing some odd blocks and changes to their firewalls given the upcoming 60th=
 celebrations of the creation of the Chinese state. Im also seeing increas=
iing Moose activity around my antennae in Alaska so fingers crossed there=
 too.
=20
=20
Laurence KL1 X in By3A
OM89UA China
http://kl1x.com
=20



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Turns out the&nbsp;Moose was a baby and the White antennae wire of the K9A=
Y was visible to him. Wonder if you have to change the wire color due to=
 seasonal changes! :-)&nbsp; Soon be time for the Black wire...snow levels=
 dropping....<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Laurence&nbsp;&nbsp;in by3a.<BR>&nbsp;<BR>
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&nbsp;<BR>The China <A href=3D"http://kl1x.com/2dx00000.jpg">http://kl1x.c=
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anges to their firewalls given the upcoming 60th celebrations of the creat=
ion of the Chinese state. Im also seeing increasiing Moose activity around=
 my antennae in Alaska so fingers crossed there too.<BR>&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;<B=
R>Laurence KL1 X in By3A<BR>OM89UA China<BR><A href=3D"http://kl1x.com/">h=
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Andrey and Lubos,

thank's for report and info !

73 de Gus SM6BHZ


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> Hi Gus, LF
> 
> 1802   -20 -0.9   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 1806   -16  0.9   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 1812   -12  0.7   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 1818   -17  0.8   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 1826   -15  1.1   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 1834   -17  0.6   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 1840   -16  0.8   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 1848   -10  0.8   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 1900   -19  1.0   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 1908   -11  0.7   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 
> 73
> Andrey
> 
> 
>




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OK Gus

today:

1954  -5  0.6   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 40
1956  -8  0.6   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 40
1958  -13  0.7   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 40
2000  -9  0.7   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 40
2002  -8  0.7   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 40
2004  -13  0.8   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 40
2006  -15  0.6   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 40
2008  -9  0.7   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 40
2016  -2  0.8   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 40
2022  -9  0.7   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 30
2028  -10  0.8   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 30
2036  -15  0.9   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 30
2040  -14  0.8   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 30
2044  -11  0.9   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 30
2050  -10  0.8   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 30
2058  -17  0.7   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 30
2106  -12  0.7   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 30
2112  -9  0.9   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 30

73



> Anderey,
> thank's report and info !
> Yesterday 21.30 i run 10 W erp, today i run only 1 W ERP and that is 
> probobly the reason !
> 
> 73 de Gus SM6BHZ
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
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> 
> 
>> Hello Gus,
>> Today bad propagation to Moscow. Yesterday it was much better.
>> The most good your signal was yesterday at 21.32:
>>
>> 2132  1  -0.5   0.503931  SM6BHZ  JO57 40
>>
>> 73
>> Andrey 
> 
> 
> 
>


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On 02/09/2009 at 15:10 mal hamilton wrote:

>I was getting 579 from BOSTON/USA from NC1K on 137 khz over the years on
>CW=20
>which I thought was good using simple equipment like a manual morse key,=
=20
>home built mosfet class D TX/PA and an inv L antenna, also regular QSO'S=
=20
>with Russian stations. I am able to do the same on 500 KCS. I am surprise=
d=20
>you have difficulty with my signal, I expect the problem is your end.

Even in the heart of the countryside you can still get all sorts of noises=
 off.  Last weekend was particularly difficult sometimes.

John F5VLF



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For those who may want to experiment, WE2XGR/3 will run WOLF(10) tonight on 508.700 kHz from 2330 to 0230 UTC. The resulting "catfight" with WE2XGR/2 should make interesting aural listening in the NE U.S.!

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Dear LF Group,

Thanks for the reports - the WOLF beacon shut down at 0212utc.

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Jim,

Having turned off the TX beacon I put the 500kHz RX on for a short while
just now. Since matching the antenna at the weekend (for my TXing) your
signals are *much* stronger here now than when I had previously heard you.

* 2009-09-16 07:12 ** G7NKS ** 0.503952 ** -12 ** 0 ** IO92ub ** 0.2 **
 G3XBM ** JO02dg ** 46 ** 60 *  2009-09-11 21:38  G7NKS  0.503941  -22  -1
 IO92ub  0.2  G3XBM  JO02dg  46  60   2009-09-08 07:12  G7NKS  0.503946
 -31  -1  IO92ub  1  G3XBM  JO02dg  46  60   2009-09-08 06:34  G7NKS
 0.503946  -32  -1  IO92ub  1  G3XBM  JO02dg  46  60   2009-09-08 06:04
 G7NKS  0.503946  -30  -1  IO92ub  1  G3XBM  JO02dg  46  60   2009-09-08
05:54  G7NKS  0.503946  -30  -1  IO92ub  1  G3XBM  JO02dg  46  60   2009-09-08
05:42  G7NKS  0.503946  -29  -1  IO92ub  1  G3XBM  JO02dg  46  60   2009-09-08
05:32  G7NKS  0.503946  -28  -1  IO92ub  1  G3XBM  JO02dg  46  60   2009-09-08
05:22  G7NKS  0.503946  -29  -1  IO92ub  1  G3XBM  JO02dg  46  60
It will be interesting to listen this evening to people like Gus and others
on 500kHz WSPR to see how much stronger they all are too.

73s
Roger G3XBM
-------------------------------------------------------------
http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/
http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
G3XBM    GQRP 1678      ISWL G11088

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Jim,<br><br>Having turned off the TX beacon I put the 500kHz RX on for a=
 short while just now. Since matching the antenna at the weekend (for my=
 TXing) your signals are <i>much</i> stronger here now than when I had pre=
viously heard you.<br>
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t"><font size=3D"2">=A060=A0</font></td></tr></tbody></table><br clear=3D"=
all">It will be interesting to listen this evening to people like Gus and=
 others on 500kHz WSPR to see how much stronger they all are too.<br>
<br>73s<br>Roger G3XBM<br>------------------------------------------------=
-------------<br><a href=3D"http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/">http://g3xbm-q=
rp.blogspot.com/</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.g3xbm.co.uk">http://www.g3xb=
m.co.uk</a><br>
G3XBM =A0 =A0GQRP 1678 =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL G11088<br>

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Thanks both of you for the nice reports.

I've been experimenting over the last couple of days and have finally
cracked it I think by changing from a Soundblaster 128 to a Yamaha sound
card. Now people can see me when signals are weak, and the calibration is
correct.
The new TX is working well too!

73
Dave G3YXM

2009/9/23 Piotr M=C5=82ynarski <sq7mpj@toya.net.pl>

> John P-G wrote:
>
>  Hello Dave, LF
>>
>> A new WSPR one for me!
>>
>> 1852 -26  1.2   0.503808  0 G3YXM IO92 27
>>
>> Nice to see you on the mode from Shetland,
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> John
>> GM4SLV
>>
>>  Hello Dave, LF  Group,
> I will follow John, GM4SLV  and  write the same statement: :
> Nice to see you on the mode from Poland
>
> 1946 -23  0.4   0.503812  0 G3YXM IO92 27
> 1946  -2  0.9   0.503931  0 SM6BHZ JO57 33
>
> I also asked  another ham , Matt, sq7dqx  ( he  lives  also in Lodz ) =
 to
>  start  wspr on MF  and he also  got a positive decoding of ur signal
> ( both decodes are sent to wspr database)
> It must be a good propagation  tonight on 500 khz
> Btw,  you just took away my 'odx' label from James, M0BMU   as far as th=
e
> wspr signals on 500 kHz are concerned but i do believe Jim  will forgive=
 you
> :)
> at this moment it is 1450 km  with 27dbm on your side  with my modest rx
> setup
> 11 turns  1sq. m loop "sitting' on my balcony  , followed by a simple tw=
o
> stage ( J310, BC109 )  buffer/amplif.  and ft857d
>
>                                                                       =
   73
> de Piotr, sq7mpj
> qth: Lodz /jo91rs/
>
>
>


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Thanks both of you for the nice reports.<br><br>I&#39;ve been experimentin=
g over the last couple of days and have finally cracked it I think by chan=
ging from a Soundblaster 128 to a Yamaha sound card. Now people can see me=
 when signals are weak, and the calibration is correct.<br>
The new TX is working well too!<br><br>73<br>Dave G3YXM<br><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote">2009/9/23 Piotr M=C5=82ynarski <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:sq7mpj@toya.net.pl">sq7mpj@toya.net.pl</a>&gt;</span><br><=
blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204,=
 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div class=3D"im">John P-G wrote:<br>
<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204,=
 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Hello Dave, LF<br>
<br>
A new WSPR one for me!<br>
<br>
1852 -26 =C2=A01.2 =C2=A0 0.503808 =C2=A00 G3YXM IO92 27<br>
<br>
Nice to see you on the mode from Shetland,<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
<br>
John<br>
GM4SLV<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div>
Hello Dave, LF =C2=A0Group,<br>
I will follow John, GM4SLV =C2=A0and =C2=A0write the same statement: :<br>
Nice to see you on the mode from Poland<br>
<br>
1946 -23 =C2=A00.4 =C2=A0 0.503812 =C2=A00 G3YXM IO92 27<br>
1946 =C2=A0-2 =C2=A00.9 =C2=A0 0.503931 =C2=A00 SM6BHZ JO57 33<br>
<br>
I also asked =C2=A0another ham , Matt, sq7dqx =C2=A0( he =C2=A0lives =C2=
=A0also in Lodz ) =C2=A0to =C2=A0start =C2=A0wspr on MF =C2=A0and he also=
 =C2=A0got a positive decoding of ur signal<br>
( both decodes are sent to wspr database)<br>
It must be a good propagation =C2=A0tonight on 500 khz<br>
Btw, =C2=A0you just took away my &#39;odx&#39; label from James, M0BMU =C2=
=A0 as far as the wspr signals on 500 kHz are concerned but i do believe=
 Jim =C2=A0will forgive you :)<br>
at this moment it is 1450 km =C2=A0with 27dbm on your side =C2=A0with my=
 modest rx setup<br>
11 turns =C2=A01sq. m loop &quot;sitting&#39; on my balcony =C2=A0, follow=
ed by a simple two stage ( J310, BC109 ) =C2=A0buffer/amplif. =C2=A0and ft=
857d<br>
<br>
 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=
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Clemens and Graham,

thank's report info and file.

73 de Gus

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  Hi Gus,

  good copy with 49 in southern Germany JN68kj .
  I've sent you a mp3 file.

  73
  Clemens
  DL4RAJ
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    Dear LF,

    this evening i test an SSB Beacon, QRG 508 kHz LSB.
    Reports are welcome.

    73 de Gus SM6BHZ
    www.sm6bhz.com




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You are stop to tx, Peter?
Whats a real FREQ?

* Peter Dodd <g3ldo@ukonline.co.uk> [Tue, 29 Sep 2009 22:54:54 +0100]:
> Many thanks for the report Roman
>
> Regards, Peter, G3LDO
> >
> >
> > Looking to your freq too!
> > qrss.nm.ru -> grabber 3 window 500-501.7
> > 3rd window. But SPL... Is not so sensitive then ARGO.
> > But I hope to see you.
> >
> > --
> > Roman RW3ADB.
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> >
> >
>
>




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Andy, LF

Many spots last night - here's just one of them

2352  -6  0.4   0.503851  0 G4JNT IO90 23

And I wasn't even the best DX!

Cheers,

John
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Dear Graham, LF Group,

> As the  European allocation looks to  be  wider than the  Uk, are we 
> expecting the  UK 3 Khz  allocation to  remain as is, if  and when the 
> band is formalised ?, in which case loosing 200 hz may not be the  most 
> sensible option ...

As I understand it, there are not yet any formal Europe-wide proposals, just 
what individual regulators have allocated on a case-by-case basis. I think 
G, EI, and ON have all allocated 501 - 504. The DL beacons and OK0EMW are 
licenced to use spot frequencies around 505kHz. Gus SM6BHZ would be able to 
use 504.0 - 504.1kHz.

>
> As by definition , if you  can transmit wspr  you  must be  able to  move 
> transmit  frequency (noting Andy's new beacon) establishing an over 
> lapping 100 hz section may be a reasonable  compromise ie move the  dial 
> frequency to say  502.5  or  499.5 , leaving 100 hz in band for uk access
>






>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "James Moritz" <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>
> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 2:14 PM
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Subject: LF: Re: US 500-kHz band plan
>
>>
>> Dear LF Group,
>>
>> I still haven't replied to Fritz Raab, W1FR, regarding the WD2XSH US band
>> plan which he is apparently coordinating - you may remember I posted the 
>> US
>> proposals, which he sent me, a couple of weeks ago, but have not received
>> any comments from other UK/Eu stations. I think I should reply with
>> something, so now is your chance... The proposal relates to the US
>> allocation extending to 495 - 515kHz, and how that would fit in with 
>> current
>> UK and Eu beacon operations. The content of the e-mail is below. The 
>> issue
>> is that they would like to make a 501.0 - 501.2kHz WSPR sub-band, to fit 
>> in
>> with the various other proposals. Various other types of beacon modes are
>> allocated frequencies outside the UK/EI/ON 501 - 504kHz range, while 
>> 501.2 -
>> 504kHz is allocated to "general comms". Retaining frequencies just below
>> 504kHz would divide their "general comms" band in two
>>
>> I don't think there is anything preventing us from doing this, it is just
>> the inconvenience of turning the current band "upside-down". Let me know
>> what you think!
>>
>> Cheers, Jim Moritz
>> 73 de M0BMU
>>
>>>>>From W1FR:
>>
>> Greetings:
>>
>>     Thanks for the comments on the band plan, passed
>> along to me by W1XP.
>>
>>     About a month ago, a modification to the WD2XSH
>> license was approved that adds stations and gives us
>> access to 495 - 510 kHz.  Perhaps half of the 42 stations
>> will eventually get on the air.  Because of NDBs, some
>> stations are limited to parts of this band and we will
>> have two calling frequencies and two beacon bands.
>>
>>     A draft of our new band plan follows.  Of particular
>> interest is WSPR.  As I see it, our options are:
>>
>> (a)  501.0-501.2:  Conveniently on one side of our comms
>>     band.  Will not overload WSPR receivers near 504 kHz.
>>     Apparently in EU CW-beacon band.
>>
>> (b)  503.8-504.0:  Apparently same as what you guys are
>>     using.  Cuts our comms band in the middle.  Nearby
>>     stations may overload US receivers trying to hear EUs.
>>
>> (c)  503.9-504.1:  Same problems as above with cutting
>>     comms band in two and overloading.  Conveniently
>>     straddles both G/ON/EI and Canadian bands.
>>
>>     Any further thoughts you may have will be
>> appreciated.
>>
>>
>> 73, Fritz, W1FR
>>
>> Frederick H. (Fritz) Raab, Ph.D.
>> GREEN MOUNTAIN RADIO RESEARCH COMPANY
>> 77 Vermont Avenue, Fort Ethan Allen
>> Colchester, Vermont 05446  USA
>> Tel./Fax.:  +1 (802) 655-9670  Home:  +1 (802) 862-0997
>> E-mail:  f.raab@ieee.org
>>
>> BASIC BAND PLAN for WD2XSH
>>
>> f, kHz          USE
>>
>> 495.0 - 495.1   QRSS, 1-Hz spacing, 40 stations
>> 495.1 - 495.6   CW/PSK beacons midwest, 100-Hz spacing, 10 stations
>> 495.6 - 499.0   Comms
>> 497.5           Calling frequency
>> 499.0 - 501.0   Reserved for heritage stations and special events
>> 501.0 - 501.2   WSPR
>> 501.2 - 505.0   Comms
>> 505.0 - 505.2   DX window
>> 505.2 - 508.5   Comms
>> 507.5           Calling frequency
>> 508.5 - 510.0   CW/PSK beacons east, south, west, Pacific, 50-Hz spacing, 
>> 30
>> stations
>> 510.0 - 511.0   WE2XGR beacons
>> 511.0 - 515.0   WE2XGR SSB and wideband modes
>>
>>
>> OTHER IN-BAND SIGNALS
>>
>> 503.976         NEED LSB
>> 505.0           NEED carrier
>> 506.024         NEED USB
>>
>> 508.976         OF/FA LSB
>> 510.0           OF/FA carrier
>> 511.024         OF/FA USB
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>>
>> No virus found in this incoming message.
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>
>
> 



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Roman RW3ADB wrote:
> * Roman RW3ADB <rw3adb@rambler.ru> [Mon, 21 Sep 2009 00:12:08 +0400]:
>>
>> HI, Claude!
>> RN3AGC Andrey ask you trying to TX on 137777 up to 2-3 hours later.
>> Trying to see you in Moscow.
>> The grabbers started ON:
>> http://www.rn3agc.msk.ru/grabber1.shtml
>> http://qrss.nm.ru/grabber.html
>>
>
> You are traced onto RN3AGC grabber: 
> http://www.rn3agc.msk.ru/grabber1.shtml
> NIL onto my grabber.
>
> -- 
> Roman RW3ADB.
>
>
Hi, Glaude!

You see in Bryansk:
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>> Please check your keyboard - the shift key seems to be stuck!


Jim - I think it's more than his Shift key that is stuck...




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LF

Just received some short carriers + TEST G3YXM

Nice signal, 559 on 502.5kHz 1950UTC

The IC-718 was/is standing watch using the stock SSB filter :)

73

Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
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Dear John, Jim LF Group,


> Oddly though Jame's twin spots of Jim are 100Hz apart:
>
> M0BMU 0.503944
> M0BMU 0.503844

My signal is on a nominal 503840 centre frequency... I think what has 
happened is that, in this instance, G7NKS's RX has drifted up by 46Hz, 
taking the "proper" signal outside the range of WSPR, and so only the two 
USB residual sidebands are being decoded. If you look through the database, 
you will see some spots where the main sig is inside the WSPR range, giving 
3 spots with the lowest frequency one at a much higher level like this:

      2009-09-16 22:08   M0BMU   0.503951   -10   0   IO91vr   2   G7NKS 
IO92ub   38   351
       2009-09-16 22:08   M0BMU   0.503851   -11   1   IO91vr   2   G7NKS 
IO92ub   38   351
       2009-09-16 22:08   M0BMU   0.503801   +14   1   IO91vr   2   G7NKS 
IO92ub   38   351


This agrees with G7NKS's spots of SM6BHZ, which are shifted in frequency by 
about the same amount.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU 



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 2009-09-20 14:16  M0BMU  0.137067  -2  -1  IO91vr  0.2  G3XBM  JO02dg  69
 29
No great DX Jim, but you are getting to East Cambridgeshire OK on 137kHz.

73s
Roger G3XBM
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G3XBM    GQRP 1678      ISWL G11088

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* mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net> [Sat, 19 Sep 2009 21:03:06 
+0100]:
> QSL UR O REPORT TNX QSO 73 TNX QSO GN DE MAL/G3KEV

TNX x-band QSO, Mal!
Prop is not bad.

73!
Roman

>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Roman RW3ADB" <rw3adb@rambler.ru>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2009 8:46 PM
> Subject: Re: LF: NW CQ DX
>
>
> >* mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net> [Sat, 19 Sep 2009 20:37:34
> > +0100]:
> >> Hi
> >> Roman
> >> Tnx O copy report, vy gud condx on 7033 fm Russia pse call again 
for
> > qso
> >> mal/g3kev
> >
> > Tried after every cycle of your tx.
> >
> > Only trace on 502.7 at moment.
> >
> > Roman
> >
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Roman RW3ADB" <rw3adb@rambler.ru>
> >> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> >> Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2009 8:23 PM
> >> Subject: Re: LF: NW CQ DX
> >>
> >>
> >> > Hi Mal, LF!
> >> > Copy you OOO 502.570, but you are do not heard me on 40m.
> >> >
> >> > grabber is on 502.0 dial
> >> >
> >> > Roman
> >> >
> >> >> Now in CQ DX MODE 502.57 and QSX 7033 KCS for xband QSO'S
> >> >> G3KEV
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> No virus found in this incoming message.
> >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> >> Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.106/2381 - Release Date:
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> >> 18:14:00
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Roman RW3ADB.
> >
>
>
> 
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>
>
>
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>
>




--
Roman RW3ADB.


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 Overnight tonight I shall be running the WSPR beacon again in the hope that
a few more people may spot my tiny signal. It is on around 503.839kHz (83Hz
lower than Gus). As before, any reports would be much appreciated.

Best DX so far is still 69kms from M0BMU.

73s
Roger G3XBM

-------------------------------------------------------------
http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/
http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
G3XBM    GQRP 1678      ISWL G11088

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 Overnight tonight I shall be running the WSPR beacon again in the hope th=
at a few more people may spot my tiny signal. It is on around 503.839kHz=
 (83Hz lower than Gus). As before, any reports would be much appreciated.=
 <br>
<br>Best DX so far is still 69kms from M0BMU.<br><br>73s<br>Roger G3XBM<br=
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------<br><a href=3D"http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/">http://g3xbm-qrp.blog=
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<a href=3D"http://www.g3xbm.co.uk">http://www.g3xbm.co.uk</a><br>G3XBM =A0=
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* Roman RW3ADB <rw3adb@rambler.ru> [Sun, 20 Sep 2009 00:18:07 +0400]:
> * mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net> [Sat, 19 Sep 2009 21:03:06
> +0100]:
> > QSL UR O REPORT TNX QSO 73 TNX QSO GN DE MAL/G3KEV
>
> TNX x-band QSO, Mal!
> Prop is not bad.

Full report and all screen-shots put out on the web site:
http://qrss.nm.ru/500.html

My QSL via buro as usual next time.

Roman

>
> 73!
> Roman
>
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Roman RW3ADB" <rw3adb@rambler.ru>
> > To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> > Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2009 8:46 PM
> > Subject: Re: LF: NW CQ DX
> >
> >
> > >* mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net> [Sat, 19 Sep 2009 20:37:34
> > > +0100]:
> > >> Hi
> > >> Roman
> > >> Tnx O copy report, vy gud condx on 7033 fm Russia pse call again
> for
> > > qso
> > >> mal/g3kev
> > >
> > > Tried after every cycle of your tx.
> > >
> > > Only trace on 502.7 at moment.
> > >
> > > Roman
> > >
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: "Roman RW3ADB" <rw3adb@rambler.ru>
> > >> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> > >> Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2009 8:23 PM
> > >> Subject: Re: LF: NW CQ DX
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> > Hi Mal, LF!
> > >> > Copy you OOO 502.570, but you are do not heard me on 40m.
> > >> >
> > >> > grabber is on 502.0 dial
> > >> >
> > >> > Roman
> > >> >
> > >> >> Now in CQ DX MODE 502.57 and QSX 7033 KCS for xband QSO'S
> > >> >> G3KEV
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> >
> 
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> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
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> > >
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> > > Roman RW3ADB.
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> 
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opt-tee-mumish? These technical terms always confuse me....

;-)  Dave


2009/9/24 Laurence BY3A-KL1X China <hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com>

>  Red box means its either too low (or recommended level) or too high - if
> the box goes White its in the ballpark but Im told 0dB is opt-tee-mumish
>
> --
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opt-tee-mumish? These technical terms always confuse me....<br><br>;-)=A0=
 Dave<br><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/9/24 Laurence BY3A-KL1X=
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<div>
Red box means its=A0either too low (or recommended level) or too high - if=
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HI LF!

Special event http://www.qrz.com/db/HF70W
on 137.778.0 in Moscow now!
Better onto RN3AGC grabber: http://www.rn3agc.msk.ru/grabber1.shtml
My grabber started, but is not copy at moment: 
http://qrss.nm.ru/grabber.html

Visible onto DF6NM and F1AFJ grabbers too.

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Jim,

Yes your  right, the  onset  of  wspr  activity on the  500 has paved the 
way for  increased activity and  out  side interest, from previous data 
tests ran in the early  day of the  allocation, considerable  interest was 
shown  by data users , however, the  main problem being that all the  'new' 
modes requires audio to  carrier frequency translation and in some  cases 
transmit  chain linearity as well, which  tended to  prevent data operation 
by most  users , the  first  two way rtty  contact  required  the cw-fsk 
mode of a dds controlled transmitter to  produce the frequency shift .. not 
quite its intended function .. but did the job

We may be  watching a re run of the arguments surrounding the suite of  K1JT 
software , in that the point is made that you  don't 'actually'  have a qso 
, so  therefore its not communication in the true  sense.  But if the  need 
to  use wspr  results in more stations re configuring there  transmit paths 
to enable the frequency translation of audio to  rf carrier, then the mode 
has more than served its purpose ?

As Sail gave  way to  steam , so has  Antenna 'amps'  given way to CPU 
'amps'   ... but nothing  wrong with a sail boat ..hihi

G ..

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From: "James Cowburn" <james.cowburn@virgin.net>
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 3:47 PM
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>
> Adding my thoughts to the debate, 500Khz and WSPR has rekindled my 
> interest
> in radio and I am learning lots in new areas.  As a G7 and not an expert 
> in
> CW, if CW was the only means of communication on the band then I would not
> have been as able to participate, experiment and learn as I have done with
> WSPR.  Additionally, the use of WSPR on other bands encouraged me on to 
> 500
> as I was definitely "weak signal" and now I am trying and enjoying CW QSOs
> too.
>
> The database and software allow the analysis and deduction of lots of info
> and data from the reports and their locations.
>
> For me it is not a case of CW vs WSPR (or indeed other data modes e.g. 
> WOLF)
> but far more having a go at them all in a challenging environment and 
> giving
> the old grey matter a bit of a "run out" and learning some new stuff into
> the bargain i.e. self training.
>
> As I have said in other posts, it whacks the pants off 20m SSB for sense 
> of
> achievement and enjoyment (as well as outright frustration!)
>
> I'm sure once we've all got WSPR sorted we'll be running WSJT in QSO mode
> and then we can exchange information as per the original poster's comment.
>
> Just my thoughts and YMMV
>
> With best regards
>
>
> Jim
>
>
> Dr. James Cowburn
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Peter Cleall
> Sent: 21 September 2009 14:18
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Cc: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: LF: defence of WSPR Signals
>
> I have always been interested in propagation.
> These WSPR signals are seen by some as repetitious rubbish.
>
> If you use , WSPR, the Internet database and your own receptions you soon
> realise that there are subtle variations in signal particularly QSB that 
> are
> different over day/ night paths, transitions at dawn and dusk and
> differences on N/S and E/W paths. Northern stations seem favoured for E/W
> propagation and distance between stations also has an effect.
>
> At last we have software and a process for examining in near real time the
> subtlety of these variations. We can see the signal reports from many
> distances and directions at the same time. I think we will learn a lot 
> more
> over the winter if we continue with these tests. I would like to think 
> that
> in the future we could have some coordinated test times which would get a
> greater number of receiving participants available at the same time.
>
> Personally I have been working on propagation with WSPR for several months
> on 30m. But  the recent activity by Andy, Jim and others has resulted in 
> me
> hunting out my 137kHz equipment that has not been used for a couple of 
> years
> and rebuilding a converter to hear my first signals on 500khz , since the
> commercial stations disappeared. I can see from the other reports on the
> database that I need to do more work on Aerials and i suspect that I still
> have a lot to learn about signals and equipment overload. Thee existence 
> of
> a few known reference signals is essential to improving ones equipment and
> knowledge. I t think this is all part of the spirit of amateur radio for 
> our
> self education in radio techniques which is a major justification for us 
> to
> have licenses.
>
> regards
> peterG8AFN
>
>
> Sep 21, 2009 10:52:38 AM, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org wrote:
>
> ===========================================
>
> WSPR signals last evening copied from G4JNT, G4WGT, G7NKS and SM6BHZ on
> 500kHz. Also very strong signal during the day from M0BMU on 137kHz.My
> report of your DFCW signal on 137 the other day, Jim, had the wrong
> frequency - sorry about that, added the difference 20Hz rather than
> subtracted from my RX offset - should have been 137.68 of course.Tend to
> agree with Mal's comments, I am having difficulty in seeing the point of
> some of this when there is little in the way of exchanged information
> between stations. There is a place for beacons, certainly. What concerns 
> me
> is that the casual listener tuning across the band probably has no idea
> there's anybody on.Vy 73,Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent, JO01MI.
>
>
>



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* James Cowburn <james.cowburn@virgin.net> [Sun, 6 Sep 2009 22:48:11 
+0100]:
> Dear LF
>
> I've yet to finish my ant so still v compromise here and hence QRP. 
I'm
> getting the other 3 received and decoded ok though
>
> With best regards
>
>
> Jim
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of James Moritz
> Sent: 06 September 2009 21:52
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: LF: Re: WSPR beacon
>
> Dear Roman, LF Group,
>
> The signal on 503950Hz is SM6BHZ. G4WGT is on 503910 and G7NKS on 
503946
> (but very QRP).

Lose that message -(
OK.
Do not copy G7NKS, but copy you and SM6BHZ are very good!
2055 -23  1.3   0.505050  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
2101 -22  1.2   0.505050  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
2111 -28  1.3   0.505075  0 M0BMU IO91 37
2115 -23  1.4   0.505051  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
2115 -27  1.5   0.505075  0 M0BMU IO91 37
2123 -25  4.6   0.503975  0 M0BMU IO91 37
2127 -24  1.3   0.503951  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
2137 -30  1.4   0.503950  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
2137 -27  1.3   0.503975  0 M0BMU IO91 37
2149 -29  1.4   0.503951  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
2157 -24  1.6   0.503951  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
2157 -27  1.5   0.503975  0 M0BMU IO91 37
2203 -19  1.2   0.503951  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30

May be trying an x-band later on? Tomorrow? Or some later?

> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
>
>




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Hi,LF,
Capture BOJ,
Best 73s
Henny pa3cpm
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WSPR records for G7NKS SM6BHZ M0BMU (a small selection). I'm amazed that I
can copy Gus and Jim at the same time, as Jim is 40dB over S9 on the ICOM
RX.

Sadly, no sign of Roger so far, but I'll leave it running over night.

2118  13  0.9   0.503841  0 M0BMU IO91 33
2118 -16  1.0   0.503926  0 SM6BHZ JO57 33
2120 -17  1.6   0.503945 -1 G7NKS IO92 23
2124  15  1.0   0.503841  0 M0BMU IO91 33
2130 -16  1.5   0.503944 -1 G7NKS IO92 23
2132  15  0.9   0.503841  0 M0BMU IO91 33
2134 -10  1.0   0.503926  0 SM6BHZ JO57 33
2138 -16  1.6   0.503942 -1 G7NKS IO92 23
2140  14  0.8   0.503841  0 M0BMU IO91 33
2140 -18  1.1   0.503926  0 SM6BHZ JO57 33

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
  -----Original Message-----
  From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB
  Sent: 16 September 2009 19:05
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
  Subject: LF: G7NKS WSPR


  WSPR record for G7NKS. Looking for others!

  1658  -8  0.8   0.503942 -1 G7NKS IO92 23
  1720  -4  0.7   0.503944 -1 G7NKS IO92 23
  1732  -5  0.9   0.503942 -1 G7NKS IO92 23
  1740  -4  0.9   0.503942  1 G7NKS IO92 23
  1749  -7  1.6   0.503948 -1 G7NKS IO92 23


  73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor, S.E. England


    -----Original Message-----
    From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Roger Lapthorn
    Sent: 16 September 2009 15:48
    To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
    Subject: LF: G3XBM 500kHz WSPR beacon back on - any stronger?


    Good Folks,

    Have made some quick changes to the 500kHz antenna and ground system
(now using my 10m halo and feed now as a short vertical with top capacity
loading and using the 15m long-wire as a radial along with the central
heating ground) and am putting the WSPR beacon back on shortly. Interested
to know if the changes have made much difference. Antenna current is higher
so I hope it will radiate a some more. Reports and screenshots gratefully
received.

    On RX, G7NKS is about the same S/N as this morning before the changes.
Not quite sure what this is telling me.

    BTW, I know I drift upwards about 50Hz for about 20 mins as the
transverter xtal oscillator settles.

    73s
    Roger G3XBM

    -------------------------------------------------------------
    http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/
    http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
    G3XBM    GQRP 1678      ISWL G11088

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  <DIV><SPAN class=3D244251917-16092009><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#00=
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e made=20
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ing my 10m=20
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d using=20
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d) and am=20
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 will=20
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On 16 Sep 2009 at 7:56, Roger Lapthorn wrote:

> Hi folks,
> 
> My WSPR beacon is closing shortly. Thanks for reports this morning from
> M0BMU, and from G3XVL and G6ALB yesterday. No others as yet.
> 
> Later today, and before my holiday away, I hope to try a couple of quick
> and simple changes to the antenna and ground that may result in a
> slightly greater antenna current. All being well, the beacon will be on
> again later this afternoon and overnight tonight. Any reports would be
> greatly appreciated so I can compare performance.
> 
> Further improvements will have to then wait until October.
> 
> 73s
> Roger G3XBM

I listened again last night Roger between 1920 and 2020z and not a 
trace of you on the waterfall. SM6BHZ and G7NKS were coming in as 
normal, though Gus's signal seemed well down on what it was the night 
before, mostly down about -10dB with the occasional peak to 0dB (Monday 
he was consistently +2 to +4dB). So maybe 'excellent conditions' to DL 
land but not so to Bracknell...

73 Dave G3YMC

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I usually go to the wspr database on line and see what frequencies are being reported by others for the station I have heard.

Then I average the reports and adjust my RX until it gives the average figure on my decodes.
regards
peter


Sep 5, 2009 10:09:15 PM, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org wrote:

===========================================

On 5 Sep 2009 at 20:56, James Moritz wrote:

> Dear LF Group,
> 
> The WSPR beacon is now running again on 503.975kHz (502.4kHz "dial
> frequency"). Any reports would be very welcome.
> 
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU 
> 
> 

Well I seem to be copying something, but no decode of you Jim...

2012 -10  2.1   0.504019  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2022  -3  1.7   0.503978  0 G4WGT IO83 27
2026 -10  1.8   0.504022  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2034  -8  2.2   0.503923  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2038 -12  1.8   0.503922  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2044 -12  2.1   0.503920 -1 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2048 -12  1.9   0.503919 -1 SM6BHZ JO57 40

Don't pay much attention to the frequencies as I had been playing about 
a bit. Also not sure what frequencies Gus and Gary are actually on - I 
thought Gus was just above 504 but it seems Jim is a bit higher up, so 
I guess Gus has moved down below now.

OK, switching off for tonight...

73 Dave G3YMC

http://www.davesergeant.com




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Hi Graham, LF,
=20
Well here looking at WSPR with Spectrum Lab running the other week I=
 came to
the conclusion that:
=20
1. Adjusting the input level to the PC such that WSPR indicates a Nois=
e
level of 0dB corresponds to -60dBfs in Spectrum Lab.
2. A signal reported as -30dB in WSPR will measure -60dBfs in Spectrum=
 Lab,
and be indistingushable from the noise.
3. A signal reported as 0dB in WSPR will measure -30dBfs in Spectrum=
 Lab
4. A signal reported as +10dB will measure -20dBfs in Spectrum Lab.
5. Raising the Noise level reported by WSPR to +10dB will correspond=
 to
-50dBfs in Spectrum Lab. But this only reduces the dynamic range of WS=
PR.
=20
To me it appears WSPR prefers the Noise floor to be around -60dBfs giv=
ing it
a 30dB margin over the A/D theoretical noise floor.
=20
These tests were done during the day, when there was little QRN and QS=
B.
AGC off, and sufficient RF attenuation to achieve 0dB Noise level repo=
rted
by WSPR.
=20
73,
Lee M0LMH.
=20
=20
=20

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham
Sent: 23 September 2009 21:41
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: s/n shown by wspr .... what is it actually showing ?


Just watched Dave's G3YXM  wspr  signal on spec-lab ,=20
=20
Spec-lab showed the  signal to  be a constant  20 dB over the back gro=
und
noise floor  of the  rx=20
so in my  book that's 20 dB  s/n  =20
=20
The  wspr  decode is  showing -3 dB s/n ?
=20
What is it  actually  displaying ?
=20
G ..=20
=20
=20
=20

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<DIV><SPAN class=3D459435120-23092009><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2=
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Graham, LF,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D459435120-23092009><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2=
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D459435120-23092009><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2=
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here looking at WSPR with Spectrum Lab running the other week I came=
 to the=20
conclusion that:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D459435120-23092009><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2=
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D459435120-23092009><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2=
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Adjusting the input level to the PC such that WSPR indicates a Noise=
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0dB corresponds to -60dBfs in Spectrum Lab.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D459435120-23092009>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D459435120-23092009><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2=
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D459435120-23092009><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2=
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signal reported as -30dB in WSPR will measure -60dBfs in Spectrum Lab,=
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indistingushable from the noise.</FONT></SPAN></DIV></FONT></SPAN></DI=
V><FONT  face=3DArial><FONT color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2><SPAN  clas=
s=3D459435120-23092009>3</SPAN>. A signal reported as 0dB in WSPR will=
 measure=20
-30dBfs in Spectrum Lab</FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D459435120-23092009><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2=
 face=3DArial>4. A=20
signal reported as +10dB will measure -20dBfs in Spectrum=20
Lab.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D459435120-23092009><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2=
 face=3DArial>5.=20
Raising the Noise level reported by WSPR to +10dB will correspond to=
 -50dBfs in=20
Spectrum Lab. But this only reduces the dynamic range of=20
WSPR.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D459435120-23092009><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2=
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D459435120-23092009><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2=
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it appears WSPR prefers the Noise floor to be around -60dBfs giving it=
 a 30dB=20
margin over the A/D theoretical noise floor.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D459435120-23092009><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2=
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D459435120-23092009><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2=
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tests were done during the day, when there was little QRN and=20
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D459435120-23092009><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2=
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off, and sufficient RF attenuation to achieve 0dB Noise level reported=
 by=20
WSPR.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D459435120-23092009></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D459435120-23092009><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2=
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D459435120-23092009><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2=
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M0LMH.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D459435120-23092009><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2=
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D459435120-23092009>&nbsp;</SPAN></DIV>
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  <B>On Behalf Of </B>Graham<BR><B>Sent:</B> 23 September 2009=20
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  shown by wspr .... what is it actually showing ?<BR><BR></FONT></DIV=
>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Just watched Dave's G3YXM &nbsp;wsp=
r&nbsp; signal=20
  on spec-lab , </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Spec-lab showed the&nbsp; signal to=
&nbsp; be a=20
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  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>so in my&nbsp; book that's 20 dB&nb=
sp;=20
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  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>The&nbsp; wspr&nbsp; decode is&nbsp=
; showing -3=20
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  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>What is it&nbsp; actually&nbsp; dis=
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  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>G .. </FONT></DIV>
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Hello Gerhard. Marco and LF
Thank you to you both for very good ... now repport station here that starts 
to work well ..... I'm in QSO with F6BWO jet arriving here very strong ...
Good Sunday to enjoy a qso ..
F8boj Claude JN16WA .. ..
L inv 172m 32m ground .....
zl1bpu exciter...group's irfp450 ...
73 s
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> Good morning,
> Good signal of Claude also in JN49ax.
> Rx here Miniwhip ant., FT857 with Preamp.
> Unfortuantely my TX ant, is down until Nov/Dec..
> Vy73
> Marco
> DD7PC
>
>
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> An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Gesendet: Sun Sep 13 09:50:44 2009
> Betreff: LF: F8BOJ 137740
>
> Hello group!
>
> Just saw F8BOJ 20db over noise in JN88hl.
> I can't get back to him because I haven't got at TX yet.
> I completed my antenna yesterday.
> I is about 80m of wire in avg. 10m above ground (600pf) and a 2,2mH
> coil. RX is TS440S with selective Preamp.
>
> Cheers and 73
>
> OE3GHB
> Gerhard
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Hi John, LF,
The one I use is ExpressPCB (for boards) & ExpressSCH (for schematics) both
free, they may be suitable.

Go to - http://www.expresspcb.com/

<http://www.expresspcb.com/>73

Gary - G4WGT.



2009/9/25 John RABSON <john.rabson@numeo.fr>

> LF, Dave,
>
> John Hey, G3TDZ, has produced a prototype of a new version of the cave
> radio which is named after him, and looking for recommendations for CAD
> software for PCB layout.
>
> He doesn't need anything fancy - most packages he has looked at do much
> more than he wants and are too complicated.
>
> The software must be cheap (ideally free or shareware) and the file formats
> must not be tied to a particular PCB manufacturer.
>
> For details of the design see his article "A Prototype Cave Radio to Avoid
> Loran Interference", CREG Journal issue 72 pp4 to 6, August 2009.
>
> Any suggestions, please?
>
> 73
> John F5VLF
>
>
>
>
>

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Hi John, LF,<div><br></div><div>The one I use is ExpressPCB (for boards)=
 &amp; ExpressSCH (for schematics) both free, they may be suitable.=A0</di=
v><div><br></div><div>Go to -=A0<a href=3D"http://www.expresspcb.com/">htt=
p://www.expresspcb.com/</a></div>
<div><br></div><div><a href=3D"http://www.expresspcb.com/"></a>73</div><di=
v><br></div><div>Gary - G4WGT.</div><div><br></div><div><br><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote">2009/9/25 John RABSON <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:john.rabson@numeo.fr">john.rabson@numeo.fr</a>&gt;</span><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1=
px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">LF, Dave,<br>
<br>
John Hey, G3TDZ, has produced a prototype of a new version of the cave rad=
io which is named after him, and looking for recommendations for CAD softw=
are for PCB layout.<br>
<br>
He doesn&#39;t need anything fancy - most packages he has looked at do muc=
h more than he wants and are too complicated.<br>
<br>
The software must be cheap (ideally free or shareware) and the file format=
s must not be tied to a particular PCB manufacturer.<br>
<br>
For details of the design see his article &quot;A Prototype Cave Radio to=
 Avoid Loran Interference&quot;, CREG Journal issue 72 pp4 to 6, August 20=
09.<br>
<br>
Any suggestions, please?<br>
<br>
73<br>
John F5VLF<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div><br></div>

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Dear Andrey, Markus
Thanks for raport. I calling QRSS3, 10  and 60.
Vy 73!
Marcin SQ2BXI

> Hi Marcin, Andrey,
>
> nice signal from HF70W also here in Nuernberg tonight.
>
> Andrey: Donebach 153 kHz seemed perfectly clean from here, so it's
probably "Luxembourg" intermodulation onto the DCF39 carrier
> which is causing trouble again.
>
> Best wishes,
> Markus (DF6NM)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Andrey rn3agc" <rn3agc@mail.ru>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 10:17 PM
> Subject: LF: Re: HF70W_QSO
>
>
> Hello Lubos, Marcin,
> I saw traces from signals. But here the strongest
> QRM from broadcasting station to 21z (153 khz).
>
> 73 Andrey
>
>
> >
> > Hello MArcin, LF!
> > Thanks for very nice QSO, I am pleased. Your signal was fine - see the
picture.
> >
> > 73!
> >
> > Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS
> >
>



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All being well I am now ready to RX on WOLF on 502.5kHz (USB dial freq). Is
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Jim, LF,

Moved up 10Hz.

Gary - G4WGT.

2009/9/3 James Moritz <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>:
> Dear LF Group,
>
> Am now QRV in WSPR mode on 503.975kHz, 502.4kHz "dial frequency". Also=
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> signals from G4WGT, G0NBD, and SM6BHZ at the moment. I see Gary and Grah=
am
> seem =A0to be on exactly the same frequency, so will double occasionally=
. Any
> reports would be very welcome.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
>

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Hi, Graham,

I listened but couldn't hear it at this QTH. But then I have a high noise
level due to ADSL hash...

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
  -----Original Message-----
  From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Graham
  Sent: 19 September 2009 00:41
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
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  Was I the  only station to  rx this  cw beacon ... who was sending it ?

  G ..


  From: Graham
  Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 8:37 PM
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
  Subject: LF: CW beacon qrp on 5033 ?


  Who is  running a qrp beacon on 503.3  ... very low in to  io83lk, some
thing about  5 ..? .. watts and a loop ae might of  copied  G0WSJ but  could
be wrong .. signal is just showing at Birmingham ..  not at G4WGT grabber
and  very low in the  noise at Wallasey ..  ..looks like it has  closed ?

  Beacon text is very long ... would be better with simple vvvv  test  de
gxxxx  gxxxx gxxxx   etc as qsb and static kept  knocking bits out of the
text .... at least it  proved the  rx set up  works !

  Graham

  G0NBD




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<DIV><SPAN class=3D405031907-19092009><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000=
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D405031907-19092009><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000=
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D405031907-19092009><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000=
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Dave G3WCB IO91RM</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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p on 5033=20
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Was I the&nbsp; only station to&nbs=
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  this&nbsp; cw beacon ... who was sending it ?</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Who is&nbsp; running a qrp beacon=
 on 503.3&nbsp;=20
  ... very low in to&nbsp; io83lk, some thing about&nbsp; 5 ..? .. wat=
ts and a=20
  loop ae might of&nbsp; copied&nbsp; G0WSJ but&nbsp; could be wrong=
 .. signal=20
  is just showing at Birmingham ..&nbsp; not at G4WGT grabber &nbsp;an=
d&nbsp;=20
  very low in the&nbsp; noise at Wallasey ..&nbsp;&nbsp;..looks like=
 it=20
  has&nbsp; closed ? </FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Beacon text is very long ... would=
 be better with=20
  simple vvvv&nbsp; test&nbsp; de gxxxx&nbsp; gxxxx gxxxx&nbsp;&nbsp;=
 etc as qsb=20
  and static kept&nbsp; knocking bits out of the&nbsp; text .... at le=
ast=20
  it&nbsp; proved the&nbsp; rx set up&nbsp; works !</FONT></DIV>
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Hello LF!

2240  -5  1.1   1.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 33
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Hello LF!<br><br>2240&nbsp; -5&nbsp; 1.1&nbsp;&nbsp; 1.503925&nbsp; 0 SM6BHZ JO57 33<br>2240 -25&nbsp; 0.4&nbsp;&nbsp; 1.503950&nbsp; 0 M0LMH IO93 20<br>2244 -24&nbsp; 0.9&nbsp;&nbsp; 1.503911&nbsp; 0 G4WGT IO83 27<br><br>Lubos, OK2BVG<br>                    <br /><hr />Přetáhněte si fotografie přímo do chatu v Messenger. Jak se do dělá. <a href='http://download.live.com/messenger' target='_new'>Klikni zde!</a></body>
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Hi Gus!
2114 -19  0.6   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 33

The grabber started on 503 around and 502.35 dial.

Roman


> Hi Lubos,
>
> thanks report and info !
>
> 73 de Gus SM6BHZ
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Lubos OK2BVG
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>   Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2009 9:17 PM
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>
>
>   Hello Gus, Gary, LF!
>   I am back from my vacation and QRV on 600m:
>
>   1850 -9 0.8 1.503925 0 SM6BHZ JO57 33
>   1858 -23 1.2 1.503911 0 G4WGT IO83 27
>
>   Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS
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>
>
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Dear Laurence, LF group,

This is amazing.  Well done Laurence!

73
Joe VO1NA

On Mon, 14 Sep 2009, Laurence BY3A-KL1X China wrote:

>
>
>
> Gus, LF - GE
>
>
>
> One successful decode from the "B" SDR IQ receiver and  Dell 630
>
>
>
> 2050  -29  0.9  0.503925  0  SMBHZ JO57 40  (reported as BY3X)
>
>
>
> Im definately getting better decodes on the SDR/D630 than the R75/Dell 610. Whether this is a result of the  A>D loss which the R75 analogue incurs  coming down to audio etc - or a true receiver artifact remains to be seen, but its the same on HF as well - Ill swop them over, or parts of the system and will try to see where the improvement is.
>
>
>
> Now I know absolutely know that for my listening pleasure the R75 knocks spots on sensitivity and other filtering/AGC/NB over the SDR IQ  -  but in a highly processed, right on the edge -29/-30 world, heavy noise environment with plenty of RF perhaps the pure D to D SDR makes that little difference.  Or it could really be the processing power and divisors between the two computers....lots of variables here so Im still not sure.
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> Its was really noisy and surprised to get anything -there is a large Typhoon between Hainan Island and Hong Kong which appears to be the largest noise maker.
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Dear Graham, LF Group,

If an error in sample rate was causing the error in the transmission timing, 
it would also lead to an error of the same percentage in the audio 
frequencies being generated during transmission. I.e. if transmission was 
about 2% short, the transmitted frequency would be about 30Hz higher than 
the nominal value, with an audio frequency around 1500Hz. Likewise the 
reported frequencies on receive would be about 30Hz lower than expected. Do 
you recall if this was the case?

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU

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> Jim,
>
> Re the  size of error
>
> With the  delta-4 card, the  tx frame could be observed to  be  some  2 or 
> more seconds short of the  expected time  window
>
> 1 % ~  1.2 seconds , 2 %  ~ 2.4  seconds, assumedly indicating the clock 
> on the  card runs fast, but as to the  influence of the system by the 
> software, dma, irq etc  Im not  sure, one problem is I expect is the 
> soundcards are not  designed to be the  interface for  a accurate 
> frequency meter / generator and as such compromises 'must' exist ...



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Beckmann, Gerhard wrote:
> Hello Jim,
> 
> signal good copied this evening!
> 
> 73's  de Gerhard  //  DK6NI  (JN59LN)
> 
> 21:40:34 >WOLF RESTARTED
> t:  24 f:-0.527 a:-0.4 dp:102.0 ci:11 cj:256 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
> t:  48 f:-0.524 a:-0.6 dp: 99.7 ci:13 cj:256 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
> 
> ============================================================================


Jim, LF

Not quite so good here now, some QSB, doesn't decode on the first 24 or 
48 seconds. It's still very robust after 96 seconds though!

2009-09-09 21:49:42 >WOLF10  -r 7997.017 -f 1000 -t 1.0 -d 5 -w 0.0000
t:  24 f: 0.300 a: 0.3 dp:109.7 ci: 0 cj:  0 2Z I I.7IFX4.J/ ?
t:  48 f: 0.296 a: 0.6 dp:111.7 ci: 1 cj:  0 /1IAWCWNG4/.5 5 ?
t:  96 f: 0.297 a: 0.5 dp:113.5 ci:15 cj:124 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t: 192 f: 0.293 pm: 7696 jm:713 q:  9.5  9.4 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t: 288 f: 0.293 pm:12637 jm:713 q: 12.6 12.9 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -



Will leave the decoder running all night and post some results tomorrow.

Goodnight,

John
GM4SLV


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OK Jim, many thanks!
I will be on 137,1 till the morning. Results I will inform tomorrow.
Or there can be they will in wsprnet.org

73 Andrey


> Dear Markus, Andrey, LF Group,
> 
> I am now running the WSPR beacon again on 135.5kHz "dial frequency", 
> 137.090kHz RF out. Hopefully, this will be within range of Markus' receiver, 
> and also near enough to 137.1k for Andrey.
> 
> If anyone else is going to be on 137k tonight, I can set the RX to monitor 
> their QRG - if not, I could put the RX on 500kHz again.
> 
> Looking at Markus' grabber tonight, it is nearly a white-out (or rather 
> green-out ;-)) due to the loud QRN, but we will see.
> 
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU 
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Hi Dave!

Thanks a lot for the infos and the link to your website.
I'm reading your 500kHz pages now - interesting to know facts about the history of this slice of the spectrum.

By the way, there might have been a misunderstanding when I wrote "...wspr...sounds like CW..." Of course I meant it in a rather literally sense: 
A Continuous Wave = a more or less constant carrier without very obvious modulation, at least to my ear/brain audio processing.

> Not quite Dennis. A WSPR transmission period is 114 secs
So I was not that very bad, estimating it to 115sec!

> Just got bored and turned the WSPR monitor off
I'm going to switch the RX on now for some minutes. :)

vy73
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The China http://kl1x.com/2dx00000.jpg grabber, and  Alaska   http://kl1x.=
com/dx00000.jpg grabbers will be on auto over the next 9 days or so, and=
 hopefully under remote control from elsewhere in the globe.=20

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I cant guarantee stability or access to the China grabber as "they" are do=
ing some odd blocks and changes to their firewalls given the upcoming 60th=
 celebrations of the creation of the Chinese state. Im also seeing increas=
iing Moose activity around my antennae in Alaska so fingers crossed there=
 too.

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Laurence KL1 X in By3A

OM89UA China

http://kl1x.com

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Lauren found her dream laptop. Find the PC that=92s right for you.
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The China <A href=3D"http://kl1x.com/2dx00000.jpg">http://kl1x.com/2dx0000=
0.jpg</A> grabber, and&nbsp;&nbsp;Alaska&nbsp;&nbsp; <A href=3D"http://kl1=
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o over the next 9 days or so, and hopefully under remote control from else=
where in&nbsp;the globe. <IMG height=3D19 alt=3D"" src=3D"http://gfx2.hotm=
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I cant guarantee stability or access to the China grabber as "they" are do=
ing some odd blocks and changes to their firewalls given the upcoming 60th=
 celebrations of the creation of the Chinese state. Im also seeing increas=
iing Moose activity around my antennae in Alaska so fingers crossed there=
 too.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Laurence KL1 X in By3A<BR>
OM89UA China<BR>
<A href=3D"http://kl1x.com">http://kl1x.com</A><BR>
&nbsp;<BR>                     <br /><hr />Lauren found her dream laptop.=
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LF,

I have been having e-mail problems and may miss some recent discussions.=
  Someone asked me how I could identify a WSPR signal without a decoder:

The times and frequencies of transmission were known.  I saw nothing else=
 remotely similar on the band.

The bandwidth was about 6Hz with Argo set to 10s dots.

Posting reports on the reflector elicited confirmation that I was receivin=
g WSPR.

John F5VLF
PS sorry for terseness.  I haven't been sleeping well and currently feel=
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John,

About 160m, yes I can give this a go. I can run more (but still QRP!) power
on 160m. I could set this running later this morning and leave running until
this evening when I'll go back to 500kHz.

73s
Roger G3XBM

2009/9/15 John P-G <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk>

> Roger Lapthorn wrote:
>
>>  Overnight tonight I shall be running the WSPR beacon again in the hope
>> that
>> a few more people may spot my tiny signal.
>>
>
> Roger, LF,
>
> Still no copy here, but it's early days!
>
> I've moved the MF WSPR receiver to 160m if you fancy a daytime test on that
> band, as a comparison?
>
> Dial = 1.8366MHz
>
> Will leave it running and reporting spots while I'm at work.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> John
> GM4SLV
>
>
>


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John,<br><br>About 160m, yes I can give this a go. I can run more (but sti=
ll QRP!) power on 160m. I could set this running later this morning and le=
ave running until this evening when I&#39;ll go back to 500kHz.<br><br>73s=
<br>
Roger G3XBM<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/9/15 John P-G <span dir=
=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk">gm4slv@sight=
hound.demon.co.uk</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" styl=
e=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;=
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<div class=3D"im">Roger Lapthorn wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204,=
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=A0Overnight tonight I shall be running the WSPR beacon again in the hope=
 that<br>
a few more people may spot my tiny signal.<br>
</blockquote>
<br></div>
Roger, LF,<br>
<br>
Still no copy here, but it&#39;s early days!<br>
<br>
I&#39;ve moved the MF WSPR receiver to 160m if you fancy a daytime test on=
 that band, as a comparison?<br>
<br>
Dial =3D 1.8366MHz<br>
<br>
Will leave it running and reporting spots while I&#39;m at work.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
<br>
John<br>
GM4SLV<br>
<br>
<br>
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gspot.com/">http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.g3=
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G3XBM =A0 =A0GQRP 1678 =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL G11088<br>

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Hi Jim!
Looked your trace in mode-120: 
http://rw3adb.narod.ru/2009/20sep2009_M0BMU_137WSPR/135.5W_120_00008.jpg
3d window on the grabber.

Roman

* James Moritz <james.moritz@btopenworld.com> [Sun, 20 Sep 2009 14:17:19 
+0100]:
> Dear LF Group,
>
> The M0BMU WSPR beacon is now running on 135.5kHz "dial frequency",
> 137.0kHz
> RF out. Note change of frequency to try to avoid DCF39/HGA22 
sidebands,
> which some stations experience problems with. Any reports over the 
next
> few
> hours would be very welcome.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
>




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I have always been interested in propagation.
These WSPR signals are seen by some as repetitious rubbish.

 If you use , WSPR, the Internet database and your own receptions you soon realise that there are subtle variations in signal particularly QSB that are different over day/ night paths, transitions at dawn and dusk and differences on N/S and E/W paths. Northern stations seem favoured for E/W propagation and distance between stations also has an effect.

At last we have software and a process for examining in near real time the subtlety of these variations. We can see the signal reports from many distances and directions at the same time. I think we will learn a lot more over the winter if we continue with these tests. I would like to think that in the future we could have some coordinated test times which would get a greater number of receiving participants available at the same time.

Personally I have been working on propagation with WSPR for several months on 30m. But  the recent activity by Andy, Jim and others has resulted in me hunting out my 137kHz equipment that has not been used for a couple of years and rebuilding a converter to hear my first signals on 500khz , since the commercial stations disappeared. I can see from the other reports on the database that I need to do more work on Aerials and i suspect that I still have a lot to learn about signals and equipment overload. Thee existence of a few known reference signals is essential to improving ones equipment and knowledge. I t think this is all part of the spirit of amateur radio for our self education in radio techniques which is a major justification for us to have licenses.

regards
peterG8AFN


Sep 21, 2009 10:52:38 AM, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org wrote:

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WSPR signals last evening copied from G4JNT, G4WGT, G7NKS and SM6BHZ on 500kHz. Also very strong signal during the day from M0BMU on 137kHz.My report of your DFCW signal on 137 the other day, Jim, had the wrong frequency - sorry about that, added the difference 20Hz rather than subtracted from my RX offset - should have been 137.68 of course.Tend to agree with Mal's comments, I am having difficulty in seeing the point of some of this when there is little in the way of exchanged information between stations. There is a place for beacons, certainly. What concerns me is that the casual listener tuning across the band probably has no idea there's anybody on.Vy 73,Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent, JO01MI.


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Hi Warren,LF
Capture XGJ
Henny pa3cpm
73s
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Warren,LF</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Capture XGJ</FONT></DIV>
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Looks like over 2500km, thanks!

Dave

2009/9/23 Andrey rn3agc <rn3agc@mail.ru>

> KO85sv
>
>
>
>  Thanks Andrey
>> What is your locator square?
>>
>> 73
>> Dave
>>
>> 2009/9/23 Andrey rn3agc <rn3agc@mail.ru>
>>
>>  Hello Dave, LF,
>>>
>>> 2026   -29  0.6   0.503808  G3YXM IO92 27
>>>
>>> 73 Andrey
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK
>>
>>
> 73 Andrey
>
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Looks like over 2500km, thanks!<br><br>Dave<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quo=
te">2009/9/23 Andrey rn3agc <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rn3agc=
@mail.ru">rn3agc@mail.ru</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quot=
e" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt=
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KO85sv<div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
<br>
<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204,=
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Thanks Andrey<br>
What is your locator square?<br>
<br>
73<br>
Dave<br>
<br>
2009/9/23 Andrey rn3agc &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rn3agc@mail.ru" target=3D"_b=
lank">rn3agc@mail.ru</a>&gt;<br>
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<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204,=
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Hello Dave, LF,<br>
<br>
2026 =A0 -29 =A00.6 =A0 0.503808 =A0G3YXM IO92 27<br>
<br>
73 Andrey<br>
<br>
<br>
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<br>
<br>
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<br>
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73 Andrey<br>
<br>
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Johan H. Bodin wrote:
> mal hamilton wrote:
>> Maybe u like FICTION I like FACTS
> 
> Mal, please have a look at the FACTS at:
> 
>   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shannon-Hartley_theorem

A better Wikipedia page for Mal to read is:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hubris



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mal hamilton wrote:
> Tim
> Test ur antenna and cw.
> Can u hear my CW on 502.6
> de mal/g3kev
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "tim hague" <m0afj@dsl.pipex.com>
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>> Have my Rx on 500kHz (dial 502.4) immediately got copy of G7NKS, will
>> leave it running for a while and uploading spots to the database
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Hi Mal
My CW's not to bad thanks!, I'm doing other things so I'm just leaving 
the Rx on in the shack, will try a cross band with you over the weekend, 
Its not much of a set up, FT2000, 80M Windom, untuned though I've got 
the stuff to cobble up a tuner, its a very noisy urban location though.
I've got my IC R71E and Wellbrook loop monitoring 502.6 but I don't tend 
to hear much on that

Tim M0AFJ / G8GGP


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Good folks,

I've now got a most basic WSPR TX system on-air transverting my FT817 TX
from 28MHz down to 500kHz. It is only putting out 700mW from the TX, so only
microwatts being radiated from the poor antenna at the moment. Although I
cannot yet transceive on 500kHz, when I get back from holiday in a few weeks
I will set to work getting more power, full transceive and a moderately
credible antenna.

However, nothing ventured nothing gained, *I will put this WSPR TX on the
air this evening* starting shortly in case *anyone* can hear me.  Any WSPR
spot reports would fill me with total amazement and delight.

73s
Roger
G3XBM

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http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
G3XBM    GQRP 1678      ISWL G11088

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Good folks,<br><br>I&#39;ve now got a most basic WSPR TX system on-air tra=
nsverting my FT817 TX from 28MHz down to 500kHz. It is only putting out 70=
0mW from the TX, so only microwatts being radiated from the poor antenna=
 at the moment. Although I cannot yet transceive on 500kHz, when I get bac=
k from holiday in a few weeks I will set to work getting more power, full=
 transceive and a moderately credible antenna.<br>
<br>However, nothing ventured nothing gained, <u>I will put this WSPR TX=
 on the air this evening</u> starting shortly in case <i>anyone</i> can he=
ar me.=A0 Any WSPR spot reports would fill me with total amazement and del=
ight.<br>
<br>73s<br>Roger<br>G3XBM<br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>--------------------=
-----------------------------------------<br><a href=3D"http://g3xbm-qrp.b=
logspot.com/">http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.=
g3xbm.co.uk">http://www.g3xbm.co.uk</a><br>
G3XBM =A0 =A0GQRP 1678 =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL G11088<br>

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Hello Victor,

thank's report !

73 de Gus
  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 8:31 PM
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  Hello Gus ,

  your ssb signal is about 55 at the moment,

  73

  Victor
    -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
    Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_grou=
p@blacksheep.org]Namens Gus
    Verzonden: donderdag 24 september 2009 20:19
    Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
    Onderwerp: LF: SSB Beacon


    Dear LF,

    this evening i test an SSB Beacon, QRG 508 kHz LSB.
    Reports are welcome.

    73 de Gus SM6BHZ
    www.sm6bhz.com

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<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4>Hello Victor,</FONT></EM></STRONG></DI=
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<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4></FONT></EM></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4>thank's report !</FONT></EM></STRONG><=
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<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4></FONT></EM></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
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  <DIV><SPAN class=3D141343018-24092009><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2=
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  <DIV><SPAN class=3D141343018-24092009><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2=
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    </B>Gus<BR><B>Verzonden:</B> donderdag 24 september 2009=20
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    <DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4>Dear LF,</FONT></EM></STRONG></DIV=
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    <DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4></FONT></EM></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4>this evening i test an SSB Beacon,=
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    LSB.</FONT></EM></STRONG></DIV>
    <DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4>Reports are=20
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    <DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4></FONT></EM></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
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Hello Willem and LF,
thank's report and info!
73 de Gus SM6BHZ
www.sm6bhz.com

----- Original Message ----- 
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> 1634 -28  4.9   0.503910 -2 G7NKS IO92 10
> 1646 -30  5.8   0.503914  0 G7NKS IO92 23
> 1834  -2  5.1   0.503920  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 1838  -7  5.3   0.503920  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 1846   7  5.4   0.503921  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 73s willem pa3ego
> 
>




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Hi Andy, LF.
Started my grabber on 502.4 dial, WSPR prog and two window into grabber 
up to morning here.

Roman


* Andy Talbot <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com> [Fri, 11 Sep 2009 20:50:28 
+0100]:
> The G4JNT  Beacon on 503.700kHz is back on.   Every 15 minutes at the
> t+4
> minute epoch.
>
> I'll have to think how to include a WSPR waveform as well as the
> original
> signal type.   It will almost certainly  be too much for a single 
16F628
> PIC
> to be able to include both.   Can probably do it if I remove the PSK31
> component, but there have been several reports / decodes of that, so 
it
> ought to remain.
>
> Easiest solution may be to use two PIC / DDS drivers, one handiing 
each
> signal type and work out an arbitration scheme for when they both want
> to Tx
> at the same time.
>
>
> Andy
> www.g4jnt.com
>
> this email has been scanned for political correctness by the nanny 
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--
Roman RW3ADB.


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Dave Sergeant wrote:

> 
> What actual frequency are you transmitting on Roger? As you might have 
> gathered I do have a bit of a problem calibrating WSPR and decoding.... 
> I am running it now, and Argo, and seeing a moderately strong WSPR 
> signal but no decodes. It may of course be Gus or somebody else. It 
> last transmitted in the 1744 slot and before that at 1736.

Dave, LF

This must be G7NKS, as he's being spotted by several stations, and at 
the times you mention.

I guess you know that http://wsprnet.org/drupal/wsprnet/spots shows the 
uploaded spots as they come in from any stations that have "Upload 
Spots" ticked on WSPR?

For anyone who isn't aware of this - click the link "Specify Query 
Parameters" and select "LF/VLF" from the drop down list of bands & then 
"Update"...

No sign here of any signals yet though.

John
GM4SLV



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Dear Marcin,

will there be 136 kHz activities Saturday morning/noon?=20
Only during office hours access to "my" antenna, sri.
Could try to be qrv around 1100 to 1300 lt but only good old hand made str=
aight code.
Hw?

73 good luck
Joerg, DL3NRV




> -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: "Marcin" <bxi@go2.pl>
> Gesendet: 16.09.09 11:51:48
> An: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Betreff: LF: Special event HF70W


> Dear LF
> Special event HF70W will be activity in night saturday/sunday 19/20
> September and 4/5 October.
> This friday (18 September) worked on 137,700kHz, QRSS3  from 20:00 UTC.
> --
> Vy 73!
> Marcin SQ2BXI
> HF70W - SP2KDS Team
>=20
>=20



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Hi Roman, LF,



from my experience, I=C2=A0don't think=C2=A0that=C2=A0either SpecLab or Ar=
go=C2=A0would generally be=C2=A0more sensitive than the other.=C2=A0If you=
 use similar settings (eg. FFT=C2=A0resolution 0.34 Hz), then there is lit=
tle=C2=A0difference in the appearance of the spectrograms. On the other ha=
nd, compared to Argo's predefined optimized settings, SpecLab has a lot of=
 flexibility, allowing=C2=A0for example to trade in sensitivity for screen=
 bandwidth.



Kind regards,

MArkus (DF6NM)

-----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung-----=20
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Verschickt: Mi., 30. Sept. 2009, 0:41
Thema: LF: G3LDO


Hi Peter, LF!=C2=A0
=C2=A0
Looking to your freq too!=C2=A0
qrss.nm.ru -> grabber 3 window 500-501.7=C2=A03rd window. But SPL... Is no=
t so sensitive then ARGO.=C2=A0
But I hope to see you.=C2=A0
=C2=A0
--=C2=A0
Roman RW3ADB.=C2=A0
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<div>Hi Roman, LF,</div>


<div>&nbsp;</div>


<div>from my experience, I&nbsp;don't think&nbsp;that&nbsp;either SpecLab=
 or Argo&nbsp;would generally be&nbsp;more sensitive than the other.&nbsp;=
If you use similar settings (eg. FFT&nbsp;resolution 0.34 Hz), then there=
 is little&nbsp;difference in the appearance of the spectrograms. On the=
 other hand, compared to Argo's predefined optimized settings, SpecLab has=
 a lot of flexibility, allowing&nbsp;for example to trade in sensitivity=
 for screen bandwidth.</div>


<div>&nbsp;</div>


<div>Kind regards,</div>


<div>MArkus (DF6NM)<br>
<br>
-----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung----- <br>
Von: Roman RW3ADB &lt;rw3adb@rambler.ru&gt;<br>
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<br>
Verschickt: Mi., 30. Sept. 2009, 0:41<br>
Thema: LF: G3LDO<br>
</div>


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 Sans-Serif; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff">Hi Peter, LF!&nbsp;<br>
&nbsp;<br>
Looking to your freq too!&nbsp;<br>
qrss.nm.ru -&gt; grabber 3 window 500-501.7&nbsp;3rd window. But SPL... Is=
 not so sensitive then ARGO.&nbsp;<br>
But I hope to see you.&nbsp;<br>
&nbsp;<br>
--&nbsp;<br>
Roman RW3ADB.&nbsp;<br>
&nbsp;<br>
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Hi Jim, LF!
Started grabber ON 137.0 too: http://qrss.nm.ru/grabber.html
Started WSPR up to morning time.

Roman

* James Moritz <james.moritz@btopenworld.com> [Sun, 20 Sep 2009 14:17:19 
+0100]:
> Dear LF Group,
>
> The M0BMU WSPR beacon is now running on 135.5kHz "dial frequency",
> 137.0kHz
> RF out. Note change of frequency to try to avoid DCF39/HGA22 
sidebands,
> which some stations experience problems with. Any reports over the 
next
> few
> hours would be very welcome.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
>




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G7NKS on WSPR now. Dial freq 502.4

IO92UB

With best regards
 
 
Jim
 
 

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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of John RABSON
Sent: 03 September 2009 10:34
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Subject: LF: Identifying WSPR

LF,

I have been having e-mail problems and may miss some recent discussions.
Someone asked me how I could identify a WSPR signal without a decoder:

The times and frequencies of transmission were known.  I saw nothing else
remotely similar on the band.

The bandwidth was about 6Hz with Argo set to 10s dots.

Posting reports on the reflector elicited confirmation that I was receiving
WSPR.

John F5VLF
PS sorry for terseness.  I haven't been sleeping well and currently feel
several turns short of a microhenry







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Gus,

I didn't copy anything after 0045Z. I will try again tonight from my home QTH.

John, W1TAG

---- Gus <begu@algonet.se> wrote: 
> Hello John and LF,
> 
> thank's report and info !
> Transmitter stoped after an upgrade last night.
> I will let transmitter run from now and all night in WSPR !
> Dial 502.5 kHz USB.
> 
> 73 de Gus SM6BHZ
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <w1tag@charter.net>
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> Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 2:45 AM
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> 
> 
> >I have some copy of SM6BHZ in the past half hour:
> > 0016 -29  0.9   0.503951   0  SM6BHZ JO57 30
> > 0026 -28  1.0   0.503951   0  SM6BHZ JO57 30
> > 0034 -27  1.0   0.503951   0  SM6BHZ JO57 30
> > 0040 -26  1.2   0.503951   0  SM6BHZ JO57 30
> > 
> > Will let it run overnight and see if any other calls show up.
> > 
> > John Andrews, W1TAG/1
> > Raymond, Maine FN42ch
> >
> 
> 
> 



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hi henny and LF group
Many thanks Henny for the pics control very good week=20
with the beautifull sun..
best 73 's=20
Claude F8BOJ JN16WA
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: henny van elst=20
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  Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 11:15 AM
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  Hi,LF,
  Capture BOJ,
  Best 73s
  Henny pa3cpm
  Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden=
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  Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen vir=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>hi henny and LF group</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Many thanks Henny for the pics contro=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>with the beautifull sun..</FONT></DIV=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>best 73 's </FONT></DIV>
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Roman
I can copy lots of Russian stns on 7033 but now a contest again and some bad 
signals and chirp on freq
mal/g3kev

----- Original Message ----- 
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>
>
>> Excellent propagartion world wide on 7Mcs tonite but so far nothing
> exciting on LF/MF
>
> Not so excellent, Mal. You are do not copy me on 40 now. -)
>
>> Mal/g3kev
>
>
>
> --
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Hello Waren, LF!
There were fantastic condition last night! Both, XGJ and WPF were received=
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s signal was 15dB over noise! SUPER!

73!

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS =20

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Sorry for the short notice, I sent this using the wrong email account...

WE2XGR/3 will again be running WOLF(10) on 508.700 kHz tonight from
2300Z until 0500Z. Reports are welcome.

John, W1TAG / WE2XGR/3


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Thanks for the comments John and others.

Firstly of course Jim is VERY strong here, well over s9. I did try 
putting 30dB of attenuation in but he was still moving the meter...

I have not at the moment done the calibration. Both that and the small 
drift you see are complicated by my receive setup I use on 500kHz:

Datong UC1 upconverter feeding my K2 on 10m.

The Datong itself has a 116MHz downconverter crystal (144MHz to 10m) 
which is known to driift and hard to set precisely.

The K2, as most of you will know, is not a fully synthsised rig rather 
an analogue VFO locked to a coarser synthesiser in 10kHz steps. It is 
adequately stable for normal use but has a worse case 30Hz absolute 
error and a pretty small thermal drift (it doesn't have the frequency 
stability mod they did in later K2s).

Because of the difficulty of setting frequencies precisely things like 
'tune to 197kHz for a 1kHz tone' are meaningless - as I have to use the 
soundcard to check it is 1kHz..... you cannot calibrate that way, and 
neither can I do it on Loran since I have no AM mode.

So realistically this setup is not up to coping with these more exotic 
sound card modes which seem to assume you are using fully synthesised 
rigs. But it is just fine on other modes like RTTY and PSK - Wolf 
should be no different, it just sounds like slowish RTTY to me...

Back to normal modes I think...

73 Dave G3YMC

On 10 Sep 2009 at 17:45, John Andrews wrote:

> Dave,
> 
> On a quick look, I see some substantial frequency drift, probably due to
> the receiver, and also the possibility that your actual sound card
> sampling rate is quite different from the default 8000 Hz. Both of these
> things will keep the copy from building up, as the framing keeps
> changing.
> 
> Are you used to seeing frequency drift on QRSS signals? Do you suspect
> that the receiver isn't stable?
> 
> John, W1TAG
> 
> >> Well, easy for some (I can see) but NOT for me. What am I doing
> >> wrong?
> >>
> >> 19:19:11 >WOLF RESTARTED
> >> t:  24 f: 0.367 a:-0.5 dp: 85.8 ci: 1 cj:  0 1STCG6J2X7EUEWZ ?
> >> t:  48 f: 0.366 a:-0.4 dp: 85.7 ci: 2 cj:  0 VP*JV9IX47R60ZC ?
> > 
> > You are not alone Roger....
> > 
> > 2009-09-10 20:05:04 >WOLF10  -r 8000 -f 700 -t 10 -d 8 -w 0.0000
> > t:  24 f:-3.282 a: 0.2 dp:131.5 ci: 1 cj:202 Y 6NQSDZ42XVQHU ?
> > t:  48 f:-3.282 a: 0.2 dp:128.8 ci: 7 cj:252 XHW/EU864G09IUO ?
> > t:  96 f:-3.429 a: 0.1 dp:126.6 ci: 6 cj:472 SCE6XF5ZOGYP0IY -
> > t: 192 f:-3.477 pm: 8690 jm:456 q: -6.9 -8.0 HIQ*QAUZFJGT8XB ?
> > t: 288 f:-3.770 pm:11554 jm:455 q: -8.3 -7.8 K2WH67SKZF20??? ?
> > t: 384 f:-3.477 pm:11696 jm:455 q: -4.8 -4.9 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
> > t: 480 f:-3.477 pm:13507 jm:455 q: -4.8 -5.7 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
> > t: 576 f:-2.891 pm:20843 jm:453 q: -3.7 -8.0 0XB7VQ6W169B0J9 ?
> > t: 672 f:-2.891 pm:20855 jm:453 q: -3.5 -7.9 0XB7VQ6W169B0J9 ?
> > t: 768 f:-2.891 pm:20862 jm:453 q: -3.4-10.2 DGC1ALF5ZELF5HS ?
> > 
> > At least there are a couple of valid decodes there, but my quality
> > fields are way way below those of John's.
> > 
> > Like WSPR another of these toys which I will probably never look at
> > again...


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Tu John, 200watt,ant.sloper 12meter and tophat14meter best 73s
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Hello group!

Just received a CQ from DJ9GT on 137700 with 15-20db over noise in
JN88HL.

I couldn't find a personal mail-address, so hopefully he's member of the
list.

I'm a LF-beginner and this is actually the first signal that I received
with my Marconi-antenna. 90m of wire about 12m high and a 2,2mH loading
coil.

RX is Kenwood TS440S with preamp.

I have got a lot of support and tips from Ossi, OE5ODL (Thank you) and I
hope to have a TX ready in early December. 

Cheers

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Hello LFers,

What are most of you fellows setting your Nr of frames value at
in the Wolf Config screen?  How important is this setting as to
its effect on decodes?  Thanks in advance for any/all replies.

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I have just been doing some more tests on 30m. Clock errors might well 
have been part of the problem. Initially on 30m the few decodes I was 
seeing were showing a DT of over 3s, so I had a play with the dsec 
setting, and setting that to -3.5 brought me rather more spots with DTs 
around 0. I noticed at that time that my computer clock was indeed 
around 3secs out relative to MSF, but that doesn't tie in with when I 
was listening to Jim earlier when it was no further than 0.5s 
different, even after an internet resynch. Surely my PC clock didn't 
drift 3s in a couple of hours....

As to strong signals failing to decode, thanks for the information. I 
am using the built in sound chip on the motherboard, and as you know 
these are always a bit ropey, so it may be the reason. I have another 
problem at the moment, in that I have just fitted a fixed level audio 
output connection to the K2 and I think I have got its level a bit high 
- I have to set the input level in WSPR to virtually zero to get around 
0dB input. I shall be turning it down a bit next time I have to go 
inside the K2.

It does look as if some aspects of WSPR are a bit finnicky though, not 
too impressed myself but if it means you are spotted in AA1A land it is 
obviously serving a good purpose. But for working Hatfield from 
Bracknell I guess there are quicker ways...

73 Dave G3YMC

On 5 Sep 2009 at 12:17, James Moritz wrote:

> Dear Daves, LF Group,
> 
> Thanks for the overnight reports - the beacon was shut down at 0925utc
> here. I see several spots in the database from AA1A - the first time
> M0BMU has been copied in the US this season, thanks Dave.
> 
> In answer to YMC Dave's questions:
> 1) I don't know of an actual figure for required frequency stability,
> but more than several Hz drift during a 2 minute period would be a
> problem. But a drift of 1Hz in 2min is small enough. Some of the HF
> people have problems with rigs heating and cooling between transmit and
> receive cycles and the resulting cyclic drift. Using a converter and
> receiver with seperate oscillators will certainly tend to multiply drift
> problems.
> 
> 2) I have not so far had much success with internet based clock 
> synchronisation utilities, so at the moment I am just setting my PC
> clock against an MSF clock at the start of each session - this is
> adequate, but my PC does drift a few seconds overnight. Having said
> that, I was being received OK by a number of other stations this
> morning. The transmission is supposed to start on each even minute, and
> have a duration of 110.6 seconds.
> 
> 3) WSPR seems to have good dynamic range, provided the RX and sound card
> gains are adjusted so that overload does not occur. Certainly, it is
> possible to receive rather weak signals giving just a faint trace in the
> noise on the waterfall display at the same time as strong "red" traces
> occur - a range of 40dB or more. Even if a strong signal does cause
> overload, the randomised transmit periods mean that only a fraction of
> the weak signal time slots will be affected. I have not noticed any
> problem with decoding strong WSPR signals here, although there are not
> really any "very" strong signals.
> 
> The "false decodes" occur from time to time, apparently more when 
> narrow-band QRM is present. If you read W1JT's description of the
> various JT modes, he has made a trade-off between excluding decoded weak
> signals that contain a lot of noise but could be correct, and falsely
> decoding noise that by chance resembles a signal. In practice, they are
> not really an issue, due to the fact that the callsign is encoded with
> other information (for WSPR the locator and power output) and these
> would have to be consistent with the callsign for the signal to be
> accepted as valid. Even if the falsely decoded callsign is plausible, it
> is extremely unlikely that the locator would be correct, and
> astronomically unlikely that the same decode would be generated from
> noise at multiple receiving stations on multiple occasions. Using these
> types of criteria, false decodes are periodically stripped out of the
> WSPR database.
> 
> A number of people have had problems with strong signals failing to
> decode, on HF as well as 500kHz. We did some investigation of this last
> winter; there may be more than one cause, but one issue is that some
> sound cards/operating systems appear to generate significant timing
> errors, which over the relatively long transmission period of WSPR
> accumulate to mess things up. This results in some receivers failing to
> decode some transmitters. One way to test this is to receive a strong
> WSPR signal, but then after about 40s or a minute from the start of a
> transmission disconnect the audio to the PC or turn the gain down to
> zero. There is enough data in the shortened signal to decode, but less
> time for timing errors to accumulate. If this results in successful
> decoding, then a timing error of this sort seems likely, which could be
> at either TX or RX. Weak signals may decode fine, because parts of the
> signal are "missing" due to noise and fading. So another possible test
> is to reduce gain until the strong signal is just a weak trace on the
> waterfall in the receiver noise, and see if correct decoding occurs
> then.
> 
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
> 
> 


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Hi Roger

 

I'll be looking out for you with the dawn chorus!!  Have a good holiday and
we'll see you with a tan and QRO when you get back.  Going anywhere exotic?

 

With best regards

 

 

Jim

 

 

Dr. James Cowburn G7NKS

 

  _____  

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Roger Lapthorn
Sent: 18 September 2009 23:01
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: 500kHz QRPp WSPR overnight

 

Tonight is probably my last chance to receive any new WSPR reports before I
go on holiday, so I'll leave the beacon running until around 8am UK time
tomorrow on 33% TX. If there are any night owls around, I'd appreciate a few
receivers staying on 500kHz just in case you might hear me.

73s
Roger G3XBM

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yle=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Hi Roger<o:p></=
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yle=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I&#8217;ll be=
 looking out for you with the
dawn chorus!! &nbsp;Have a good holiday and we&#8217;ll see you with=
 a tan and QRO
when you get back. &nbsp;Going anywhere exotic?<o:p></o:p></span></fon=
t></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>With best regar=
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an"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></spa=
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an"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></spa=
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eestyle Script"><span style=3D'font-size:24.0pt;font-family:"Freestyle=
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<span style=3D'color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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yle=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Dr. James Cowbu=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'fo=
nt-size:10.0pt; font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></fon=
t></b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;fon=
t-family:Tahoma'> owner-<st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blac=
ksheep.org</st1:PersonName> [mailto:owner-<st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">=
rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</st1:PersonName>] <b><span style=3D'font-=
weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Roger Lapthorn<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 18 September 2009=
 23:01<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:s=
t=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> LF: 500kHz QRP=
p WSPR
overnight</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'>Tonight is probably my last chance to receive=
 any new WSPR reports
before I go on holiday, so I'll leave the beacon running until around=
 8am <st1:country-region w:st=3D"on"><st1:place w:st=3D"on">UK</st1:pl=
ace></st1:country-region> time
tomorrow on 33% TX. If there are any night owls around, I'd appreciate=
 a few
receivers staying on 500kHz just in case you might hear me.<br>
<br>
73s<br>
Roger G3XBM<br clear=3Dall>
<br>
-------------------------------------------------------------<br>
<a href=3D"http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/">http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.c=
om/</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.g3xbm.co.uk">http://www.g3xbm.co.uk</a><br>
G3XBM &nbsp; &nbsp;GQRP 1678 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;ISWL G11088<o:p></o:p=
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Hi Jim. whist it involves a change in "usage" from our end it would not seem
unreasonable to ensure that the US stations have a chance of hearing us
without nearby swamping. I think this is an interesting development becasuse
it now seems that Frtiz is extending the experiment to intercontinental
tests/qsos.......an activity he discouraged earlier....due to the terms of
the original application and grant I believe. I have to admit my opinions
carry very little weight as a "non-active operator" :-)) But maybe it will
stimulate others with differing opinions to voice them to you.

Best wishes
Alan G3NYK

----- Original Message -----
From: "James Moritz" <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 2:14 PM
Subject: LF: Re: US 500-kHz band plan


> Dear LF Group,
>
> I still haven't replied to Fritz Raab, W1FR, regarding the WD2XSH US band
> plan which he is apparently coordinating - you may remember I posted the
US
> proposals, which he sent me, a couple of weeks ago, but have not received
> any comments from other UK/Eu stations. I think I should reply with
> something, so now is your chance... The proposal relates to the US
> allocation extending to 495 - 515kHz, and how that would fit in with
current
> UK and Eu beacon operations. The content of the e-mail is below. The issue
> is that they would like to make a 501.0 - 501.2kHz WSPR sub-band, to fit
in
> with the various other proposals. Various other types of beacon modes are
> allocated frequencies outside the UK/EI/ON 501 - 504kHz range, while
501.2 -
> 504kHz is allocated to "general comms". Retaining frequencies just below
> 504kHz would divide their "general comms" band in two
>
> I don't think there is anything preventing us from doing this, it is just
> the inconvenience of turning the current band "upside-down". Let me know
> what you think!
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
> >>>From W1FR:
>
> Greetings:
>
>      Thanks for the comments on the band plan, passed
> along to me by W1XP.
>
>      About a month ago, a modification to the WD2XSH
> license was approved that adds stations and gives us
> access to 495 - 510 kHz.  Perhaps half of the 42 stations
> will eventually get on the air.  Because of NDBs, some
> stations are limited to parts of this band and we will
> have two calling frequencies and two beacon bands.
>
>      A draft of our new band plan follows.  Of particular
> interest is WSPR.  As I see it, our options are:
>
> (a)  501.0-501.2:  Conveniently on one side of our comms
>      band.  Will not overload WSPR receivers near 504 kHz.
>      Apparently in EU CW-beacon band.
>
> (b)  503.8-504.0:  Apparently same as what you guys are
>      using.  Cuts our comms band in the middle.  Nearby
>      stations may overload US receivers trying to hear EUs.
>
> (c)  503.9-504.1:  Same problems as above with cutting
>      comms band in two and overloading.  Conveniently
>      straddles both G/ON/EI and Canadian bands.
>
>      Any further thoughts you may have will be
> appreciated.
>
>
> 73, Fritz, W1FR
>
> Frederick H. (Fritz) Raab, Ph.D.
> GREEN MOUNTAIN RADIO RESEARCH COMPANY
> 77 Vermont Avenue, Fort Ethan Allen
> Colchester, Vermont 05446  USA
> Tel./Fax.:  +1 (802) 655-9670  Home:  +1 (802) 862-0997
> E-mail:  f.raab@ieee.org
>
> BASIC BAND PLAN for WD2XSH
>
> f, kHz          USE
>
> 495.0 - 495.1   QRSS, 1-Hz spacing, 40 stations
> 495.1 - 495.6   CW/PSK beacons midwest, 100-Hz spacing, 10 stations
> 495.6 - 499.0   Comms
> 497.5           Calling frequency
> 499.0 - 501.0   Reserved for heritage stations and special events
> 501.0 - 501.2   WSPR
> 501.2 - 505.0   Comms
> 505.0 - 505.2   DX window
> 505.2 - 508.5   Comms
> 507.5           Calling frequency
> 508.5 - 510.0   CW/PSK beacons east, south, west, Pacific, 50-Hz spacing,
30
> stations
> 510.0 - 511.0   WE2XGR beacons
> 511.0 - 515.0   WE2XGR SSB and wideband modes
>
>
> OTHER IN-BAND SIGNALS
>
> 503.976         NEED LSB
> 505.0           NEED carrier
> 506.024         NEED USB
>
> 508.976         OF/FA LSB
> 510.0           OF/FA carrier
> 511.024         OF/FA USB
>
>



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Piotr,

for Belgium:

Frequency: 501-504kHz
Power: max. 5W EIRP
Modes: telegraphy as per ITU definition, meaning it includes digital =20
text modes such as the various PSK and FSK modes, with a max. bandwith =20
of 100Hz
Permit:  no special permit required, just a "full license" (HAREC Class 1)
Additional: no expire date, amateurs are secundary users

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

Quoting Piotr M=C5=82ynarski <sq7mpj@toya.net.pl>:

> Dear LF group,
> The present discussion  about  uk/us 500 kHz bandplan  has triggered  a
> question which i  was going to  put here, on this reflector ,
> for some time.  In Poland, we still lack this MF band allocation to
> radioamateurs.  There is a small group of hams interested  in  having an
> access to this band..
> Some time ago i was asked  by one of our  PZK ( Polish Radioamateur
> Union)  officials to prepare a  sort of a  preliminary note about this
> issue
> I plan to write such a  note ( along with Marcin, sq2bxi and others)
> Athough this lf_reflector is uk based we all know that it has a
> world-wide character including stations from G,W,F,DL,S,OK,ON,EI,PA,I
> ,OE,HB,VE
> ( i am sorry if  any other country prefix has been ommited) . Therefore
> , my ask is the following:
> please , write  here  , on this reflector,   the 500 khz band
> allocation in particular countries  i.e.  band limits as well as   EIRP
> power,special permits. etc...
> Obviously,  with such an information provided  the   "power" of  such a
> note will be greatly increased.
>
>
> 73 de Piotr, sq7mpj
> qth: Lodz /jo91rs/
>
>



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On 13 Sep 2009 at 9:24, Dave Sergeant wrote:

> I had a quick play with WSJT7. But it looks as if WSPR was an add on to
> the original program, its implementation is a bit basic and the GUI
> totally different from the separate WSPR program.

OK, I seem to have got WSJT sussed, and it is working. It seems to auto 
calibrate for the sound card, I have done nothing and the two numbers 
in the bottom right hand are both close to 1...

192803  14  -7  0.0    17  0  G4WGT IO83 27         
193000  16  12  3.0   -53  0  M0BMU IO91 33         
193000   8 -23  2.9    38  1  G7NKS IO92 23         
193400  15  15  2.8   -53  0  M0BMU IO91 33         
193600  10  -9  2.9    17  0  G4WGT IO83 27         
194400  11  -7  2.9    17  0  G4WGT IO83 27         
194800  16   5  3.0    32  0  SM6BHZ JO57 40        
194800  10 -11  3.1    47  0  G7NKS IO92 23         
195000  15  16  2.9   -53  0  M0BMU IO91 33         
195000   1 -24  3.1    17  0                        
195400  14  15  2.9   -53  0  M0BMU IO91 33         
195600   7  -6  3.1    17  0  G4WGT IO83 27         
195600   9  -7  3.5    50  0  G7NKS IO92 23         
195800  10   2  2.9    33  0  SM6BHZ JO57 40        

Not 100% copy but MUCH better than WSPR which has seen none of this. 
And sorry Roger, no sign of you on the waterfall.

73 Dave G3YMC

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hi Lobos  lLF group...
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Dear Roger, LF Group,

It is interesting to make an estimate of what G3XBM's ERP might be...

The noise level at M0BMU during relatively quiet daytime conditions I 
estimate to be of the order of 3uV/m in the 2.5kHz WSPR reference bandwidth. 
The reported SNR gets up to about -25dB, making the signal level from G3XBM 
about 0.18uV/m.

ERP = (Ed)^2 / 49; with E = 0.18 x 10e-6, d = 69000m , ERP is about 3uW with 
only "geometric spreading" propagation losses. But there is some additional 
reduction in field strength due to ground wave propagation losses, perhaps 
3dB with "good" ground, so the ERP would then become about 6uW. Diffraction 
losses due to the curvature of the earth are negligible at this distance.

Obviously, this could be +/- several dB due to various uncertainties, but 
should be of the right order of magnitude. Plenty of potential for 
improvement then!

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Dear Dave,

AC 97 
(http://download.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/sb/ac97_r23.pdf ) 
specifies 48kHz as the basic, obligatory sample rate for compliant sound 
cards, so yours should certainly be able to do it - to find more info, you 
could try looking for the audio codec chip on the motherboard - usually a 
very tiny square 48pin thing near the audio connectors, and searching using 
its type number. But I guess what sample rate is actually used will depend 
on software, drivers and so forth - perhaps someone with experience of PC 
sound card programming could advise. Looking at the audio settings in the 
Windows control panel may well tell you what sample rates are possible. 
Also, some software allows you to select different sample rates, for 
instance Spectrum Lab, but not Argo as far as I know.

The errors you are getting in the measured frequency seem to be enormous - 2 
or 3%, which would certainly give rise to problems.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
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 It seems that both WOLF and WSPR are
> designed for current sound cards which have 48,000 and 96,000 clock
> rates. Mine is obviously from the old stable so has 44,100 etc rates.
>
> For information it is the sound card interface built into the
> motherboard, an ASR Rock K7S41GX dating from 2003 with generic AC'97
> sound. Zilch more given about its spec in the manual.
>



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Dear Jim, LF Group,


> Me too.  I am getting 3 traces (!) from Jim M (he is 9+10 and audible!) 
> and
> a biggish one from Gus too

I am seeing low-level (about -25dB) sidebands on your signal  at +/-50Hz and 
+/-150Hz, which are giving rise to the extra spots.  I think something 
similar is happening when you receive my signal. I am not getting similar 
multiple spots from other nearby stations, nor am I seeing the same 
sidebands on other strong signals, so I think they must originate in your 
station somewhere - possibly audio being affected by mains noise, or some 
sort of residual FM of an oscillator in your rig?

Cheers, Jim Moritz
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Hello all:

I monitored the transmission of John, WD2XES in WSPR mode on 9/20 to 9/21 -2009 ending at 05:00 UTC. I copied him for about 2-1/2 hours during which time I experimented with different settings on my receiver, as well as my DSP audio filters to see what interaction it would have on WSPR decodes. John was transmitting on 137.577 KHz, and this was my first attempt using WSPR on 2200 meters. Receive conditions were deplorable. The lightening
crashes with a 500 cycle filter were peaking at 40dB over S-9. I didn't have enough time to make many observations; however here are some things that I did find out about WSPR.
WSPR references its decodes against the noise level in a given audio passband. The more noise, lower S/N ratios of course. On my setup; WSPR could not decode when static crashes were above peaks of 10dB over S-9. 
I found this out by using my noise blanker. Without the NB on, static peaks were 40 over, and WSPR would not decode. My NB reduced the peaks
to S-9 to 10 over, and WSPR would then decode. It made no difference what audio BW I was using, without the NB, the Static simply masked the signal. The noise level using the 2.4 KHz SSB filter was out of the question. So, the narrower you can get your IF - BW,the better WSPR will do at decoding. My comment about the dB reading. With no audio filtering, the XES signal decoded around -26 to -29 dB. With audio BW as low as 20 Hz;
it would show +8 to +10 dB. This is not an exaggerated reading. When you narrow your audio BW, you lower the passband noise level. And the DSP filter also " Boosts " the desired signal level in amplitude. So, lower passband noise, coupled together with a higher signal level amplitude will naturally increase WSPR's dB reading. And just to make this remark, adjustment of the volume control does not have any effect on WSPR at all. That is unless you turn it all the way down. About narrow audio filtering and WSPR, I'll say this; try it and see what happens. I did find this out; audio filtering less than 20 Hz produced too much " filter ringing " and WSPR hears this as an un-intelligible signal, and the ringing will mask out the desired signal, and No Decode. My little one night, 2-1/2 hour
experiment showed this:  In the extreme receive conditions on 2200 meters, WSPR decoded OK at an IF - BW of 500 Hz. Decodes were better, and easier for WSPR when I used an audio BW of 220 Hz. And decodes came thru fine with the 20 Hz audio BW, centered on the desired signal. IF filtering, and IF shift will provide the best results from interfering signals within the passband. Notch filter would be beneficial if the interfering signal is far
enough away that the notch dosen't affect the signal you are trying to receive. The audio filtering is most effective at reducing the noise that WSPR has to deal with, and WSPR dosen't like extreme static.
I am fairly new to WSPR, and this is probably some elementary information, But I do hope that to any newcomers to WSPR, it might be of some value.

Thanks for your time in reading this, and ;  73 to all :::


Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz ( QRSS-60 )
Coordinates:  N:  35* 43' 54" - W:  84* 3' 16"
http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr


      



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Hello Anatolij, LF!
I saw your signal good last night.
73!

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2032 -23  1.7   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 33
2040 -21  1.7   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 33
2044 -20  2.0   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 33
2054 -15  1.9   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 33
2058 -16  2.0   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 33
2106 -18  1.8   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 33
2114 -28  1.7   0.503840  0 M0BMU IO91 33
2114 -22  2.1   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 33
2118 -26  2.1   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 33
2120 -27  1.4   0.503840  0 M0BMU IO91 33
2124 -24  1.8   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 33
2128 -31  1.7   0.503840  0 M0BMU IO91 33
2136 -26  2.1   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 33
2144 -23  1.9   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 33
2152 -21  1.9   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 33
2158 -28  1.6   0.503840  0 M0BMU IO91 33
2200 -16  2.1   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 33
2204 -31  1.5   0.503840  0 M0BMU IO91 33
2208 -21  2.1   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 33
2212 -29  1.5   0.503840  0 M0BMU IO91 33
2212 -24  1.8   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 33
2218 -25  1.8   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 33
2222 -20  2.0   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 33
2226 -18  2.0   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 33
2234 -15  2.2   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 33
2238 -17  1.8   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 33
2246 -22  2.2   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 33

Grabber is on around 503.85 up to sunrise here.

Roman

> Dear LF
>   WSPR records for G0NBD G7NKS SM6BHZ M0BMU (a small selection).
>
>   Again, no sign of Roger so far, but I'll leave it running over 
night.
>   2122 -16 0.9 0.503959 0 G7NKS IO92 27
>   2124 -2 0.7 0.503926 0 SM6BHZ JO57 33
>   2128 14 0.2 0.503841 0 M0BMU IO91 33
>   2128 -19 0.3 0.503926 0 SM6BHZ JO57 33
>   2130 -18 0.6 0.503960 0 G7NKS IO92 27
>   2134 15 0.0 0.503841 0 M0BMU IO91 33
>   2136 -6 0.4 0.503926 0 SM6BHZ JO57 33
>   2142 14 0.0 0.503841 0 M0BMU IO91 33
>   2144 0 1.1 0.503888 0 G0NBD IO83 23
>   2144 -2 0.3 0.503926 0 SM6BHZ JO57 33
>
>
>   73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM


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Graham, Jim LF,
I agree with Graham that if the 500 kHz band remains at this small 3 kHz
allocation and as the number of operators is likely to continue to increase
then it would be wise to restrict the bandwidth of the WSPR section to 100
Hz. The problem with the upper frequency suggestion is that here in the UK &
Ireland there is sometimes severe interference from the 252 kHz broadcast
station harmonic on 504 kHz. It also seems that there are other countries
suffering a similar interference problem around that frequency from other
sources, recall Laurence's (KL1X) comments recently regarding his problem
with a strong harmonic or signal on 504 kHz.

So, if a bandwidth reduction for WSPR and a frequency change is to be made
then I favour a 100 Hz section at the bottom of the band.

The 500 kHz band is not restricted to the use by CW (morse code) only and
there must be compatibility with other modes, like it or not, users must
have a choice of operating modes within the terms of their licence (NoV).
Don't forget that this is a temporary allocation so the more operators on
the band (no matter what mode) the more likely that it will become a
permanent allocation.

Whilst on my soap box, I would also like to hear/see less of the disparaging
and belittling e-mails that appear on the LF Forum. Not all operators have
large areas of land available to construct large and full size antennas, or
unlimited financial resources to purchase the required hardware, or limited
time due to family and other commitments to improve their level of skills
within the hobby, yes it is a hobby.

Regards,

Gary - G4WGT.





2009/9/21 Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>

>
> Jim,
>
> I did post a email on this a short while ago, Gus , I thin was the only one
> to  respond and  subsequently lowered his operating  frequency to  fall
> inside the , set 502.4 usb dial  frequency in use in the  UK.
>
> As the  European allocation looks to  be  wider than the  Uk, are we
> expecting the  UK 3 Khz  allocation to  remain as is, if  and when the  band
> is formalised ?, in which case loosing 200 hz may not be the  most sensible
> option ...
>
> As by definition , if you  can transmit wspr  you  must be  able to  move
> transmit  frequency (noting Andy's new beacon) establishing an over lapping
> 100 hz section may be a reasonable  compromise ie move the  dial frequency
> to say  502.5  or  499.5 , leaving 100 hz in band for uk access
>
> Graham
>
> G0NBD.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "James Moritz" <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>
> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 2:14 PM
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Subject: LF: Re: US 500-kHz band plan
>
>
>> Dear LF Group,
>>
>> I still haven't replied to Fritz Raab, W1FR, regarding the WD2XSH US band
>> plan which he is apparently coordinating - you may remember I posted the
>> US
>> proposals, which he sent me, a couple of weeks ago, but have not received
>> any comments from other UK/Eu stations. I think I should reply with
>> something, so now is your chance... The proposal relates to the US
>> allocation extending to 495 - 515kHz, and how that would fit in with
>> current
>> UK and Eu beacon operations. The content of the e-mail is below. The issue
>> is that they would like to make a 501.0 - 501.2kHz WSPR sub-band, to fit
>> in
>> with the various other proposals. Various other types of beacon modes are
>> allocated frequencies outside the UK/EI/ON 501 - 504kHz range, while 501.2
>> -
>> 504kHz is allocated to "general comms". Retaining frequencies just below
>> 504kHz would divide their "general comms" band in two
>>
>> I don't think there is anything preventing us from doing this, it is just
>> the inconvenience of turning the current band "upside-down". Let me know
>> what you think!
>>
>> Cheers, Jim Moritz
>> 73 de M0BMU
>>
>>  From W1FR:
>>>>>
>>>>
>> Greetings:
>>
>>    Thanks for the comments on the band plan, passed
>> along to me by W1XP.
>>
>>    About a month ago, a modification to the WD2XSH
>> license was approved that adds stations and gives us
>> access to 495 - 510 kHz.  Perhaps half of the 42 stations
>> will eventually get on the air.  Because of NDBs, some
>> stations are limited to parts of this band and we will
>> have two calling frequencies and two beacon bands.
>>
>>    A draft of our new band plan follows.  Of particular
>> interest is WSPR.  As I see it, our options are:
>>
>> (a)  501.0-501.2:  Conveniently on one side of our comms
>>    band.  Will not overload WSPR receivers near 504 kHz.
>>    Apparently in EU CW-beacon band.
>>
>> (b)  503.8-504.0:  Apparently same as what you guys are
>>    using.  Cuts our comms band in the middle.  Nearby
>>    stations may overload US receivers trying to hear EUs.
>>
>> (c)  503.9-504.1:  Same problems as above with cutting
>>    comms band in two and overloading.  Conveniently
>>    straddles both G/ON/EI and Canadian bands.
>>
>>    Any further thoughts you may have will be
>> appreciated.
>>
>>
>> 73, Fritz, W1FR
>>
>> Frederick H. (Fritz) Raab, Ph.D.
>> GREEN MOUNTAIN RADIO RESEARCH COMPANY
>> 77 Vermont Avenue, Fort Ethan Allen
>> Colchester, Vermont 05446  USA
>> Tel./Fax.:  +1 (802) 655-9670  Home:  +1 (802) 862-0997
>> E-mail:  f.raab@ieee.org
>>
>> BASIC BAND PLAN for WD2XSH
>>
>> f, kHz          USE
>>
>> 495.0 - 495.1   QRSS, 1-Hz spacing, 40 stations
>> 495.1 - 495.6   CW/PSK beacons midwest, 100-Hz spacing, 10 stations
>> 495.6 - 499.0   Comms
>> 497.5           Calling frequency
>> 499.0 - 501.0   Reserved for heritage stations and special events
>> 501.0 - 501.2   WSPR
>> 501.2 - 505.0   Comms
>> 505.0 - 505.2   DX window
>> 505.2 - 508.5   Comms
>> 507.5           Calling frequency
>> 508.5 - 510.0   CW/PSK beacons east, south, west, Pacific, 50-Hz spacing,
>> 30
>> stations
>> 510.0 - 511.0   WE2XGR beacons
>> 511.0 - 515.0   WE2XGR SSB and wideband modes
>>
>>
>> OTHER IN-BAND SIGNALS
>>
>> 503.976         NEED LSB
>> 505.0           NEED carrier
>> 506.024         NEED USB
>>
>> 508.976         OF/FA LSB
>> 510.0           OF/FA carrier
>> 511.024         OF/FA USB
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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Graham, Jim LF,<div><br></div><div>I agree with Graham that if the 500 kHz=
 band remains at this small 3 kHz allocation and as the number of operator=
s is likely to continue to increase then it would be wise to restrict the=
 bandwidth of the WSPR section to 100 Hz. The problem with the upper frequ=
ency suggestion is that here in the UK &amp; Ireland there is sometimes se=
vere interference from the 252 kHz broadcast station harmonic on 504 kHz.=
 It also seems that there are other countries suffering a similar interfer=
ence problem around that frequency from other sources, recall Laurence&#39=
;s (KL1X) comments recently regarding his problem with a strong harmonic=
 or signal on 504 kHz.</div>
<div><br></div><div>So, if a bandwidth reduction for WSPR and a frequency=
 change is to be made then I favour a 100 Hz section at the bottom of the=
 band.</div><div><br></div><div>The 500 kHz band is not restricted to the=
 use by CW (morse code) only and there must be compatibility with other mo=
des, like it or not, users must have a choice of operating modes within th=
e terms of their licence (NoV). Don&#39;t forget that this is a temporary=
 allocation so the more operators on the band (no matter what mode) the mo=
re likely that it will become a permanent allocation.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Whilst on my soap box, I would also like to hear/see=
 less of the disparaging and belittling e-mails that appear on the LF Foru=
m. Not all operators have large areas of land available to construct large=
 and full size antennas, or unlimited financial resources to purchase the=
 required hardware, or limited time due to family and other commitments to=
 improve their level of skills within the hobby, yes it is a hobby.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div><br></div><div>Gary - G4WGT.</div><=
div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><br><div class=3D"gma=
il_quote">2009/9/21 Graham <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:g8fzk@g=
8fzk.fsnet.co.uk">g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk</a>&gt;</span><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1=
px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><br>
Jim,<br>
<br>
I did post a email on this a short while ago, Gus , I thin was the only on=
e to =A0respond and =A0subsequently lowered his operating =A0frequency to=
 =A0fall inside the , set 502.4 usb dial =A0frequency in use in the =A0UK.=
<br>
<br>
As the =A0European allocation looks to =A0be =A0wider than the =A0Uk, are=
 we expecting the =A0UK 3 Khz =A0allocation to =A0remain as is, if =A0and=
 when the =A0band is formalised ?, in which case loosing 200 hz may not be=
 the =A0most sensible option ...<br>

<br>
As by definition , if you =A0can transmit wspr =A0you =A0must be =A0able=
 to =A0move transmit =A0frequency (noting Andy&#39;s new beacon) establish=
ing an over lapping 100 hz section may be a reasonable =A0compromise ie mo=
ve the =A0dial frequency to say =A0502.5 =A0or =A0499.5 , leaving 100 hz=
 in band for uk access<br>

<br>
Graham<br>
<br>
G0NBD.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
--------------------------------------------------<br>
From: &quot;James Moritz&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:james.moritz@btopenwo=
rld.com" target=3D"_blank">james.moritz@btopenworld.com</a>&gt;<br>
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 2:14 PM<br>
To: &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" target=3D"_blank">=
rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a>&gt;<br>
Subject: LF: Re: US 500-kHz band plan<br>
<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1=
px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<br>
Dear LF Group,<br>
<br>
I still haven&#39;t replied to Fritz Raab, W1FR, regarding the WD2XSH US=
 band<br>
plan which he is apparently coordinating - you may remember I posted the=
 US<br>
proposals, which he sent me, a couple of weeks ago, but have not received<=
br>
any comments from other UK/Eu stations. I think I should reply with<br>
something, so now is your chance... The proposal relates to the US<br>
allocation extending to 495 - 515kHz, and how that would fit in with curre=
nt<br>
UK and Eu beacon operations. The content of the e-mail is below. The issue=
<br>
is that they would like to make a 501.0 - 501.2kHz WSPR sub-band, to fit=
 in<br>
with the various other proposals. Various other types of beacon modes are<=
br>
allocated frequencies outside the UK/EI/ON 501 - 504kHz range, while 501.2=
 -<br>
504kHz is allocated to &quot;general comms&quot;. Retaining frequencies ju=
st below<br>
504kHz would divide their &quot;general comms&quot; band in two<br>
<br>
I don&#39;t think there is anything preventing us from doing this, it is=
 just<br>
the inconvenience of turning the current band &quot;upside-down&quot;. Let=
 me know<br>
what you think!<br>
<br>
Cheers, Jim Moritz<br>
73 de M0BMU<br>
<br>
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px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D=
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>From W1FR:<br>
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<br>
Greetings:<br>
<br>
 =A0 =A0Thanks for the comments on the band plan, passed<br>
along to me by W1XP.<br>
<br>
 =A0 =A0About a month ago, a modification to the WD2XSH<br>
license was approved that adds stations and gives us<br>
access to 495 - 510 kHz. =A0Perhaps half of the 42 stations<br>
will eventually get on the air. =A0Because of NDBs, some<br>
stations are limited to parts of this band and we will<br>
have two calling frequencies and two beacon bands.<br>
<br>
 =A0 =A0A draft of our new band plan follows. =A0Of particular<br>
interest is WSPR. =A0As I see it, our options are:<br>
<br>
(a) =A0501.0-501.2: =A0Conveniently on one side of our comms<br>
 =A0 =A0band. =A0Will not overload WSPR receivers near 504 kHz.<br>
 =A0 =A0Apparently in EU CW-beacon band.<br>
<br>
(b) =A0503.8-504.0: =A0Apparently same as what you guys are<br>
 =A0 =A0using. =A0Cuts our comms band in the middle. =A0Nearby<br>
 =A0 =A0stations may overload US receivers trying to hear EUs.<br>
<br>
(c) =A0503.9-504.1: =A0Same problems as above with cutting<br>
 =A0 =A0comms band in two and overloading. =A0Conveniently<br>
 =A0 =A0straddles both G/ON/EI and Canadian bands.<br>
<br>
 =A0 =A0Any further thoughts you may have will be<br>
appreciated.<br>
<br>
<br>
73, Fritz, W1FR<br>
<br>
Frederick H. (Fritz) Raab, Ph.D.<br>
GREEN MOUNTAIN RADIO RESEARCH COMPANY<br>
77 Vermont Avenue, Fort Ethan Allen<br>
Colchester, Vermont 05446 =A0USA<br>
Tel./Fax.: =A0+1 (802) 655-9670 =A0Home: =A0+1 (802) 862-0997<br>
E-mail: =A0<a href=3D"mailto:f.raab@ieee.org" target=3D"_blank">f.raab@iee=
e.org</a><br>
<br>
BASIC BAND PLAN for WD2XSH<br>
<br>
f, kHz =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0USE<br>
<br>
495.0 - 495.1 =A0 QRSS, 1-Hz spacing, 40 stations<br>
495.1 - 495.6 =A0 CW/PSK beacons midwest, 100-Hz spacing, 10 stations<br>
495.6 - 499.0 =A0 Comms<br>
497.5 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Calling frequency<br>
499.0 - 501.0 =A0 Reserved for heritage stations and special events<br>
501.0 - 501.2 =A0 WSPR<br>
501.2 - 505.0 =A0 Comms<br>
505.0 - 505.2 =A0 DX window<br>
505.2 - 508.5 =A0 Comms<br>
507.5 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Calling frequency<br>
508.5 - 510.0 =A0 CW/PSK beacons east, south, west, Pacific, 50-Hz spacing=
, 30<br>
stations<br>
510.0 - 511.0 =A0 WE2XGR beacons<br>
511.0 - 515.0 =A0 WE2XGR SSB and wideband modes<br>
<br>
<br>
OTHER IN-BAND SIGNALS<br>
<br>
503.976 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 NEED LSB<br>
505.0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 NEED carrier<br>
506.024 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 NEED USB<br>
<br>
508.976 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 OF/FA LSB<br>
510.0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 OF/FA carrier<br>
511.024 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 OF/FA USB<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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<br>
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Hi Mal, LF!
Copy you OOO 502.570, but you are do not heard me on 40m.

grabber is on 502.0 dial

Roman

> Now in CQ DX MODE 502.57 and QSX 7033 KCS for xband QSO'S
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137,502 KHz

1812 -12  0.7   0.137000  0 M0BMU IO91 23
1820 -15  0.6   0.137000  0 M0BMU IO91 23
1826 -12  0.3   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
1826   0  0.8   0.503927  0 SM6BHZ JO57 33
1828 -20  1.0   0.503910  0 G4WGT IO83 27
1830 -14  0.3   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
1834  -3  0.9   0.503927  0 SM6BHZ JO57 33

73

Victor

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens mal hamilton
Verzonden: zondag 20 september 2009 19:21
Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Onderwerp: LF: Re: RE: Re: WSPR 137.0k


Is this supposed to be Exciting, in my opinion machine generated repeative
data, with no real time exchange of information.
If this is forward thinking technology watch the band fold, this is not
Amateur Radio
G3KEV

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> 1454  -9  1.0   0.137000  0 M0BMU IO91 23
> 1500  -9  2.3   0.137000  0 M0BMU IO91 23
> 1508  -9  0.9   0.137000  0 M0BMU IO91 23
> 1514  -9  0.9   0.137000  0 M0BMU IO91 23
> 1522  -9  0.9   0.137000  0 M0BMU IO91 23
> 1526  -8  1.0   0.137000  0 M0BMU IO91 23
> 1532  -9  0.9   0.137000  0 M0BMU IO91 23
> 1536  -9  0.8   0.137000  0 M0BMU IO91 23
> 1544 -10  1.2   0.137000  0 M0BMU IO91 23
> 1550 -10  0.9   0.137000  0 M0BMU IO91 23
>
> 73
>
> Victor
> PA3FNY
>
> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens James Moritz
> Verzonden: zondag 20 september 2009 15:17
> Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Onderwerp: LF: Re: WSPR 137.0k
>
>
> Dear LF Group,
>
> The M0BMU WSPR beacon is now running on 135.5kHz "dial frequency",
> 137.0kHz
> RF out. Note change of frequency to try to avoid DCF39/HGA22 sidebands,
> which some stations experience problems with. Any reports over the next
> few
> hours would be very welcome.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
>
>


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* Gus <begu@algonet.se> [Thu, 24 Sep 2009 20:18:39 +0200]:
> Dear LF,
>
> this evening i test an SSB Beacon, QRG 508 kHz LSB.
> Reports are welcome.

Whats time you planing to finish?
Best reports for yesterday between 2230-0040 UTC

090923 2224  11 -20  1.2   0.503923  SM6BHZ JO57 33          0     1 
0
090923 2232  20 -13  1.4   0.503923  SM6BHZ JO57 33          0     1 
0
090923 2236  19 -14  1.4   0.503923  SM6BHZ JO57 33          0     1 
0
090923 2242  21 -11  1.2   0.503923  SM6BHZ JO57 33          0     1 
0
090923 2246  12 -21  1.4   0.503923  SM6BHZ JO57 33          0     1 
0
090923 2252  17 -17  1.4   0.503923  SM6BHZ JO57 33          0     1 
0
090923 2258  20 -13  1.4   0.503923  SM6BHZ JO57 33          0     1 
0
090923 2302  23  -9  1.5   0.503923  SM6BHZ JO57 33          0     1 
0
090923 2308  22 -11  1.3   0.503923  SM6BHZ JO57 33          0     1 
0
090923 2312  23 -10  1.4   0.503923  SM6BHZ JO57 33          0     1 
0
090923 2318  22 -10  1.4   0.503923  SM6BHZ JO57 33          0     1 
0
090923 2326  20 -12  1.6   0.503923  SM6BHZ JO57 33          0     1 
0
090923 2330  16 -16  1.7   0.503923  SM6BHZ JO57 33          0     1 
0
090923 2334  13 -19  1.6   0.503923  SM6BHZ JO57 33          0     1 
0
090923 2340  20 -12  1.7   0.503923  SM6BHZ JO57 33          0     1 
0
090923 2344  24 -10  1.4   0.503923  SM6BHZ JO57 33          0     1 
0
090923 2348  22 -10  1.6   0.503923  SM6BHZ JO57 33          0     1 
0
090923 2356  25  -7  1.6   0.503923  SM6BHZ JO57 33          0     1 
0
090924 0004  26  -7  1.8   0.503923  SM6BHZ JO57 33          0     1 
0
090924 0012  20 -13  1.7   0.503923  SM6BHZ JO57 33          0     1 
0
090924 0018  24  -9  1.8   0.503923  SM6BHZ JO57 33          0     1 
0
090924 0024  17 -15  1.9   0.503923  SM6BHZ JO57 33          0     1 
0
090924 0032  13 -17  2.0   0.503923  SM6BHZ JO57 33          0    62 
0
090924 0038  11 -20  2.0   0.503923  SM6BHZ JO57 33          0     1 
0

> 73 de Gus SM6BHZ
> www.sm6bhz.com
>




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Thank you, Claude.

73
John F5VLF

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On 24/09/2009 at 17:49 Claude Berthebaud wrote:

>Hi John lf Group
>Thank you for the controversy after modificaltion transformer impedance=
=20
>advocated by Michel F5Wk
>I've tested the system 48 v 3.5A appears it is no major problem to presen=
t=20
>.... good evening everyone
>Claude F8boj
>Thank you for your information about your conditions of reception of 137
>kHz
>73 s
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>> At 1530z.
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Merci pour l'image, Nicolas.
73 de Toni

2009/9/29, F4DTL@aol.com <F4DTL@aol.com>:
> Good signal Toni.
>
> F4DTL  Nicolas JN18FP
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Dave,

Looks to be the  same problem I had at the end of last year with a delta-4 
pci sound card , the  card worked fine for data modesand did not  need to 
have a clock adjustment,  however it  produced some confusing results on 
wspr, in that it appeared to  shorten the  transmission time by a couple of 
seconds, which in turn, resulted in only low/ noisy signals decoding on rx , 
with the  same  situation occurring during tx, in that a slolid signal  did 
not  decode where as a lower/broken reception decoded reliably.

Changing to  the  older awe64 resolved the problem.

G ..



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From: "Dave Sergeant" <dave@davesergeant.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 9:20 PM
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Subject: LF: Re: WSPR beacon

>
> On 6 Sep 2009 at 21:05, James Moritz wrote:
>
>> Dear LF Group,
>>
>> The M0BMU WSPR beacon is running again - I have jacked up the antenna to
>> increase the ERP a bit. G4WGT and G7NKS are also active - any reports
>> would be very welcome.
>>
>> Cheers, Jim Moritz
>> 73 de M0BMU
>
> OK, it looks as if the sound card clock synch error is the problem. As
> suggested I have been trying recording for the first minute of each
> period then stopping - by the simple expedient of switching the K2 to a
> different band. Result, solid copy.....
>
> 1958  16  2.5   0.503972  0 M0BMU IO91 37
> 2000  16  2.4   0.503972  0 M0BMU IO91 37
> 2002  16  2.6   0.503972  0 M0BMU IO91 37
> 2006 -26  6.2   0.503965  0 M0BMU IO91 37
> 2006  16  2.6   0.503972  0 000AAA (BadMsg)
> 2008  12  2.5   0.503972  0 M0BMU IO91 37
> 2010  11  2.7   0.503971  0 M0BMU IO91 37
>
> (apart from something went a bit wrong at 2006... And note the +16dB,
> you are strong!).
>
> I can see a couple of other weak traces on the spectrogram but no copy
> of others.
>
> (and having now stopped doing that tedious turning off after 1 minute I
> now see that it is copying Jim solidly now on full cycles. Maybe you
> did something your end Jim?.....)
>
> 73 Dave G3YMC
>
> http://www.davesergeant.com
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James Moritz wrote:
> Dear Roger, LF Group,
> 
> I intend to run the WOLF beacon again from around 1900utc onwards this 
> evening

Jim,

This is too easy....


2009-09-10 19:03:19 >WOLF10  -r 7997.017 -f 1000 -t 1.0 -d 5 -w 0.0000
t:  24 f: 0.422 a:-1.0 dp: 79.6 ci: 9 cj:455 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t:  48 f: 0.420 a:-0.9 dp: 79.1 ci: 9 cj:455 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t:  96 f: 0.419 a:-0.7 dp: 77.5 ci: 9 cj:455 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t: 192 f: 0.420 pm:80.90 jm: 50 q:  7.2  6.8 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t: 288 f: 0.420 pm:82.21 jm: 50 q:  6.8  6.1 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t: 384 f: 0.420 pm:82.22 jm: 50 q:  5.0  4.3 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -


Cheers!

John
GM4SLV


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As I found out, relatively small improvements/changes to the system result
in substantial improvements in performance.

The mini VNA has been a real help in getting stuff aligned.

Jim - using this formula could you estimate what my ERP is?

With best regards
 
 
Jim
 
 
Dr. James Cowburn

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Subject: LF: RE: 500kHz QRPp WSPR overnight

Dear Roger, LF Group,

It is interesting to make an estimate of what G3XBM's ERP might be...

The noise level at M0BMU during relatively quiet daytime conditions I 
estimate to be of the order of 3uV/m in the 2.5kHz WSPR reference bandwidth.

The reported SNR gets up to about -25dB, making the signal level from G3XBM 
about 0.18uV/m.

ERP = (Ed)^2 / 49; with E = 0.18 x 10e-6, d = 69000m , ERP is about 3uW with

only "geometric spreading" propagation losses. But there is some additional 
reduction in field strength due to ground wave propagation losses, perhaps 
3dB with "good" ground, so the ERP would then become about 6uW. Diffraction 
losses due to the curvature of the earth are negligible at this distance.

Obviously, this could be +/- several dB due to various uncertainties, but 
should be of the right order of magnitude. Plenty of potential for 
improvement then!

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU 




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No decodes overnight - Im going to say its not because of QRN but more QRM=
 last night.

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A local coastal radio here (whose callsign shall remain nameless) has a fa=
ulty transmitter on 484kHz - its RF getting into their audio lines and Im=
 guessing the tx is VOX line operated or appears so at the moment,and is=
 on permanent tx with that all too well known RF into the audio line scree=
ching.=20

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White/gray/pink/Blue noise extends eitherside of their  SSB tx passband an=
d into 503khz range looking at the spec analyser. Its 40 over 9 here on ma=
in channel but crud is enough at 503 to mask WSPR :-((    Im hoping they=
 fix it today as theyve been told its nixing Naxtex too...

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It quietning down QRN wise as the last Typhoon dissapates but I see anothe=
r one heading for Hong Kong...

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Sorry=20

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No decodes overnight - Im going to say its not because of QRN but more QRM=
 last night.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
A local coastal radio here (whose callsign&nbsp;shall remain nameless) has=
 a faulty transmitter on 484kHz - its RF getting into their audio lines an=
d Im guessing the tx is VOX line operated or appears so at the moment,and=
 is on permanent tx with that all too well known RF into the audio line sc=
reeching. <BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
White/gray/pink/Blue noise extends eitherside of their&nbsp; SSB tx passba=
nd and into 503khz range looking at the spec analyser. Its 40 over 9 here=
 on main channel but crud is enough at 503 to mask WSPR :-((&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp; Im hoping they fix it today as theyve been told its nixing Naxtex too=
...<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
It quietning down QRN wise as the last Typhoon dissapates but I see anothe=
r one heading for Hong Kong...<BR>
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Sorry <BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
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Peter Cleall wrote:

> I have always been interested in propagation.
> These WSPR signals are seen by some as repetitious rubbish.

Not by some... by just one... the group troll...

73  Alberto  I2PHD



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That carrier on 504 and associated mod is pushing sidebands into the WSPR=
 section quite strongly here. Grabber running.

=20

Laurence in BY

http://kl1x.com/2dx00000.jpg
=20

The link to my server was really slow last night but appears better here=
 this mng.

_________________________________________________________________
Hotmail=AE is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast.=20
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That carrier on 504 and associated mod is pushing sidebands into the WSPR=
 section quite strongly here. Grabber running.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Laurence in BY<BR>
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The link to my server was really slow last night but appears better here=
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--- On Tue, 9/22/09, VK2ZTO <vk2zto@djirra.com> wrote:

> G'day Alberto,

> The enjoyment derived from these would not be possible
> without your software.
> 
> Along with your other software you have made a positive
> contribution to our hobby and (I apologise for using an 'F'
> word) raised the level of FUN for a lot of operators.
> 
> Sorry to embarass you with this paean, but to not
> acknowledge such contributions would be small-minded in the
> extreme.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 73 Steve 


I am very new to the world of LF, ( 2 years ), I too have found 
the software contributions from these Unselfish ( not money hungry )
men to be of great value.

Thank you Gentlemen for your time and efforts; along with your
willingness to share your knowledge with the community.

73 to all :::

Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz ( QRSS-60 )
Coordinates:  N:  35* 43' 54" - W:  84* 3' 16"
http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr




      



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Hi Jim!
Best screen-shot trace of your wspr: 
http://rw3adb.narod.ru/2009/20sep2009_M0BMU_137WSPR/135.5W_120_00017.jpg
There is no decoded into program WSPR.
There is no trace wspr in mode-120 now actually.
Re-start WSPR 135.58 dial up to morning and grabber ON.

Roman


* Clemens Paul <cpaul@gmx.net> [Mon, 21 Sep 2009 00:23:18 +0200]:
> Hello Jim,
>
> I got you at 2202z on 135.5 dial qrg:
> 2202   8  0.9   0.556500  0 M0BMU IO91 23
> As you can see I had a entered a wrong qrg in the frequency window.
> Fortunately upload window was unchecked therefore no wrong spot uplad 
to
> the database
> has happened.:-)
>
> 73
> Clemens
> DL4RAJ
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "James Moritz" <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 9:08 PM
> Subject: Re: LF: Re: WSPR 137.0k
>
>
> > Dear LF Group,
> >
> > Thanks for all the reports so far. The beacon will continue running
> for at
> > least a few more hours, although it looks like another noisy night 
on
> 136k.
> >
> > Cheers, Jim Moritz
> > 73 de M0BMU
> >
>
>
> 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.108/2383 - Release Date:
> 09/19/09 17:50:00




--
Roman RW3ADB.


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...I should have said that it is on 503.975kHz, 502.4k "dial frequency"
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> Dear LF Group,
>
> The M0BMU WSPR beacon is running again - I have jacked up the antenna to 
> increase the ERP a bit. G4WGT and G7NKS are also active - any reports 
> would be very welcome.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
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Tonight is probably my last chance to receive any new WSPR reports before I
go on holiday, so I'll leave the beacon running until around 8am UK time
tomorrow on 33% TX. If there are any night owls around, I'd appreciate a few
receivers staying on 500kHz just in case you might hear me.

73s
Roger G3XBM

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Tonight is probably my last chance to receive any new WSPR reports before=
 I go on holiday, so I&#39;ll leave the beacon running until around 8am UK=
 time tomorrow on 33% TX. If there are any night owls around, I&#39;d appr=
eciate a few receivers staying on 500kHz just in case you might hear me.<b=
r>
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Dear Chris, LF Group,

Thanks for the reports on the 136kHz signals.

G4AYT wrote:
>>>
...I am having difficulty in seeing the point of some of this when there is 
little in the way of exchanged information between stations. There is a 
place for beacons, certainly. What concerns me is that the casual listener 
tuning across the band probably has no idea there's anybody on.
>>>

On 500k, there are a handful of fairly local stations and a couple of "big 
guns" who I can work routinely in CW. The information I can exchange with 
these stations is quite limited by the licence conditions; information about 
the station and some pleasant personal chatter. With other stations, 
communication is usually quite difficult, and exchange of information is 
usually limited to callsigns and signal reports. These kind of marginal QSOs 
are usually regarded as more "valuable" in amateur circles, although the 
information exchanged may amount to less than 10 alphanumeric characters 
each way. It isn't really the amount of information, but the fact you 
actually managed to transmit it. On the other hand, WSPR allows a similar or 
greater amount of information (callsign, location, power output for 
comparison with received signal level) to be transmitted routinely at signal 
levels where even marginal CW just isn't feasible. The fact it can be 
automatically monitored over extended periods, and the information 
immediately shared via a publicly-accessible database adds a whole series of 
other possibilities too.

Since the start of 500kHz, I have received one or two listener reports for 
CW signals from stations not already on this reflector. On the other hand, I 
have received reports from over 80 different stations in about 18 countries 
for the WSPR beacon, most not otherwise part of the 500kHz scene. This 
includes stations too far away to receive CW, those who do not have good 
receiving conditions, or those who are just not morse operators. So I think 
it encourages far more people than it discourages.

Cheers, Jim moritz
73 de M0BMU 



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Just trying Mal on CW

 

Will be back on WSPR in a bit

 

With best regards

 

 

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Subject: LF: G7NKS WSPR

 

WSPR record for G7NKS. Looking for others!

 

1658  -8  0.8   0.503942 -1 G7NKS IO92 23

1720  -4  0.7   0.503944 -1 G7NKS IO92 23

1732  -5  0.9   0.503942 -1 G7NKS IO92 23
1740  -4  0.9   0.503942  1 G7NKS IO92 23

1749  -7  1.6   0.503948 -1 G7NKS IO92 23

 

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor, S.E. England

 

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Subject: LF: G3XBM 500kHz WSPR beacon back on - any stronger?

Good Folks,

Have made some quick changes to the 500kHz antenna and ground system (now
using my 10m halo and feed now as a short vertical with top capacity loading
and using the 15m long-wire as a radial along with the central heating
ground) and am putting the WSPR beacon back on shortly. Interested to know
if the changes have made much difference. Antenna current is higher so I
hope it will radiate a some more. Reports and screenshots gratefully
received.

On RX, G7NKS is about the same S/N as this morning before the changes. Not
quite sure what this is telling me.

BTW, I know I drift upwards about 50Hz for about 20 mins as the transverter
xtal oscillator settles.

73s
Roger G3XBM

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in.net"><span lang=3DDE>james.cowburn@virgin.net</span></a></span></fo=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'fo=
nt-size:10.0pt; font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></fon=
t></b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;fon=
t-family:Tahoma'> owner-<st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blac=
ksheep.org</st1:PersonName> [mailto:owner-<st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">=
rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</st1:PersonName>] <b><span style=3D'font-=
weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Dave G3WCB<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 16 September 2009=
 19:05<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:s=
t=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> LF: G7NKS WSPR=
</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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yle=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>WSPR record for=
 G7NKS. Looking for others!</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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yle=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>1658&nbsp; -8&n=
bsp; 0.8&nbsp;&nbsp;
0.503942 -1 G7NKS IO92 23</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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yle=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>1720&nbsp; -4&n=
bsp; 0.7&nbsp;&nbsp;
0.503944 -1 G7NKS IO92 23</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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yle=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>1732&nbsp; -5&n=
bsp; 0.9&nbsp;&nbsp;
0.503942 -1 G7NKS IO92 23<br>
1740&nbsp; -4&nbsp; 0.9&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503942&nbsp; 1 G7NKS IO92 23</sp=
an></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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yle=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>1749&nbsp; -7&n=
bsp; 1.6&nbsp;&nbsp;
0.503948 -1 G7NKS IO92 23</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>73, Dave G3WCB=
 IO91RM nr <st1:City w:st=3D"on">Windsor</st1:City>,
S.E. <st1:country-region w:st=3D"on"><st1:place w:st=3D"on">England</s=
t1:place></st1:country-region></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3D2 fac=
e=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Or=
iginal Message-----<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> owner-<st1:Person=
Name w:st=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</st1:PersonName>
[mailto:owner-<st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=
</st1:PersonName>]<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </s=
pan></b>Roger Lapthorn<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 16 September 2009=
 15:48<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:s=
t=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> LF: G3XBM 500k=
Hz WSPR
beacon back on - any stronger?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'>Good Folks,<br>
<br>
Have made some quick changes to the 500kHz antenna and ground system=
 (now using
my 10m halo and feed now as a short vertical with top capacity loading=
 and
using the 15m long-wire as a radial along with the central heating gro=
und) and
am putting the WSPR beacon back on shortly. Interested to know if the=
 changes
have made much difference. Antenna current is higher so I hope it will=
 radiate
a some more. Reports and screenshots gratefully received.<br>
<br>
On RX, G7NKS is about the same S/N as this morning before the changes.=
 Not
quite sure what this is telling me.<br>
<br>
BTW, I know I drift upwards about 50Hz for about 20 mins as the transv=
erter
xtal oscillator settles.<br>
<br>
73s<br>
Roger G3XBM<br clear=3Dall>
<br>
-------------------------------------------------------------<br>
<a href=3D"http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/">http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.c=
om/</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.g3xbm.co.uk">http://www.g3xbm.co.uk</a><br>
G3XBM &nbsp; &nbsp;GQRP 1678 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;ISWL G11088<o:p></o:p=
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090914 2220   6 -25  2.1   0.503925  SM6BHZ JO57 30          0    18 
0
090914 2226   7 -23  2.3   0.503925  SM6BHZ JO57 30          0     1 
0
090914 2234   7 -22  2.0   0.503925  SM6BHZ JO57 30          0     6 
0
090914 2238  11 -22  2.5   0.503925  SM6BHZ JO57 30          0     1 
0
090914 2242   9 -21  2.2   0.503925  SM6BHZ JO57 30          0     1 
0
090914 2256   7 -24  2.3   0.503925  SM6BHZ JO57 30          0     1 
0


* Dave G3WCB <ganymede444@btopenworld.com> [Tue, 15 Sep 2009 00:18:54 
+0100]:
> WSPR report of Gus's signal this evening.
>
> Also looking for G3XBM, but static levels re very high tonight.
>
> 2255  -6  0.6   0.503526  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>
> 73m Dave G3WCB IO91RM n Windsor S.E. England
>
> -
>




--
Roman RW3ADB.


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Hi all LF'ers
I will be on 502.00 at 23.15 UTC  00.15 local, 100mW hand keyed cw.

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Dear Andy,

I would suggest a frequency between 503.825 and 503.900, to avoid the QRM 
around 504kHz some people experience, and give a bit of tolerance for 
receiver frequency errors, which are sometimes suprisingly large. For some 
reason, the frequencies below 503.9 seem to be less widely used. But since 
there are only about half a dozen stations transmitting in this mode, there 
is plenty of space.

A 25% or 33% duty cycle seems to be frequent enough to catch most 
"openings" - probably less would be OK. As for power, I would suggest 
running as much as possible - monitoring signal level of a strong beacon  is 
easier than a weak one, and a relatively high power will give the greatest 
chance of being received by the maximum number of stations under the maximum 
range of conditions. You could argue that the presence of a "strong" beacon 
would sometimes prevent reception of very weak signals nearby in frequency, 
but since this only can happen 25% or 33% of the time, and the signal is not 
so strong at a few 100 mW ERP,  it is probably not a serious objection in 
practice.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
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Roger, what freq are you on tonight? I'm seeing a  v  e  r  y  faint trace
that isn't decoding.

Dave G3WCB
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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Roger Lapthorn
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  Early reports of my WSPR beacon from G3XVL and M0BMU suggest a VERY slight
improvement (2-3dB at best) has been achieved. Let's hope  a few others spot
me tonight.

  73s
  Roger G3XBM

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Hello Jim,

vy glad to copy your WSPR-signal this evening in JN59LN!

2312 -29  4.4   0.503916 -2 G7NKS IO92 23

vy 73 de Gerhard  //  DK6NI  (JN59LN)

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Mori's would be fully readable at qrss 3 speeds - and given hes only  @ 50=
W, I think, and moreover the racket on the bands this evening must have a=
 not too shabby ERP.

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Dang Typhoons...

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Good strong signal here
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Mori's would be fully&nbsp;readable at qrss&nbsp;3 speeds&nbsp;- and given=
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Dear LF
  WSPR records for  G0NBD G7NKS SM6BHZ M0BMU (a small selection).  

  Again, no sign of Roger so far, but I'll leave it running over night.
  2122 -16  0.9   0.503959  0 G7NKS IO92 27
  2124  -2  0.7   0.503926  0 SM6BHZ JO57 33
  2128  14  0.2   0.503841  0 M0BMU IO91 33
  2128 -19  0.3   0.503926  0 SM6BHZ JO57 33
  2130 -18  0.6   0.503960  0 G7NKS IO92 27
  2134  15  0.0   0.503841  0 M0BMU IO91 33
  2136  -6  0.4   0.503926  0 SM6BHZ JO57 33
  2142  14  0.0   0.503841  0 M0BMU IO91 33
  2144   0  1.1   0.503888  0 G0NBD IO83 23
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  73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM

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Hello Dave and LF group
Thank you for this first qso g3wcb dave ....
now I'm not good antenna for you in good
conditions the antenna used for this traditional
band is in maintenace now ... your signal here was
Mr. MM ..... then finally qso on loop for the top band hi
My locator is JN16WA ...
L inv 172m .....
qsl info ...qrz.com
Dave good weekend ... see you soon on 137 khz
73's F8boj Claude..

----- Original Message ----- 
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> LF,
> F8BOJ very strong QRSS signals this morning on 137.740. Screenshot 
> attached.
> New station for me!
>
> 73, Dave IO91RM nr Windsor, S E England
>
> 




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1kw was a little too much for my antenna coil. The coil former melted
down and tomorrow I have to get another one ;-)
73 de Toni


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Hello Dave, LF

A new WSPR one for me!

1852 -26  1.2   0.503808  0 G3YXM IO92 27

Nice to see you on the mode from Shetland,

Cheers,

John
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Graham,

I tried to upload them, but they were rejected due to some error in the file. I was using a laptop at a portable QTH, and anything is possible. Will be listening again tonight from home.

John, W1TAG

---- Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote: 
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> Are these spots up loaded to the  wspr  database , im not  seeing any at 
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> G ..
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> > I have some copy of SM6BHZ in the past half hour:
> > 0016 -29  0.9   0.503951   0  SM6BHZ JO57 30
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> > Will let it run overnight and see if any other calls show up.
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To little band with !! :-))

de Gus

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> Gus, to you remains only AM and FM to try )
> 
> 73 Andrey
>




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There's a decode for M0LMH by AA1A at 05:54 today, but just that one
solitary one.

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There&#39;s a decode for M0LMH by AA1A at 05:54 today, but just that one solitary one.<br clear="all"><br>Dave.<br>-- <br>G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK<br>

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Hi John,

Im just happy the thing is working tonight, with no 10 hz steps in the 
frequency , must admit I forgot to change the  power level  , it was 10 
watts at the  end of last  nights run , but tx power has been  100 watts 
carrier to the  Ae all night .....  erp  at a guess round the  100mW  mark 
tops

.The  power level  It  was me , I suggested that the  erp be  displayed on 
500 as the power to the Ae did convey very much inn terms of  radiated power 
....

G .

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Subject: Re: LF: Re: WSPR beacon

>
> Hello all,
>
> Nice signals from all WSPRers
>
> I see there's a disagreement amongst you about whether to report ERP or
> TX power. Is there an agreed standard for this on MF/LF?
>
> Jim, Gary & Gus seem to report ERP and Graham reports TX power. This
> makes Graham's spots look poorer than they should be.
>
> I remember some discussion a few months ago about this, but can't
> remember the concensus that was reached. It would be good though if you
> all did the same thing, to gove a consistent approach and to allow
> better comparison between S/N, Distance and Power.
>
> Cheers,
>
> John
> GM4SLV
>
> Gus wrote:
>> Dear Jim and group,
>>
>> this evening i run WSPR beacon with abt 10 dB more power.
>
>



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Hello Claude,you should make tries beacon in QRSS60 at night, with  your 
good signal americans listeners should receive you i think.
 
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HI, Claude!
RN3AGC Andrey ask you trying to TX on 137777 up to 2-3 hours later.
Trying to see you in Moscow.
The grabbers started ON:
http://www.rn3agc.msk.ru/grabber1.shtml
http://qrss.nm.ru/grabber.html

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Hi Warren,

right now i run abt 2 W erp.

73 de Gus SM6BHZ


----- Original Message ----- 
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> Gus,
>  How much power on ssb?
> -- 
> 73 Warren K2ORS
>                WD2XGJ
>                WD2XSH/23
>                WE2XEB/2
>                WE2XGR/1
> 
> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Gus <begu@algonet.se> wrote:
>> Dear LF,
>>
>> this evening i test an SSB Beacon, QRG 508 kHz LSB.
>> Reports are welcome.
>>
>> 73 de Gus SM6BHZ
>> www.sm6bhz.com
>>
>>
>




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Mal,

Not helpful and factually incorrect.

73s
Roger



2009/9/1 mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>

>  All WSPR signals last evening struggling in QRN/QRS whereas they were
> audible here and if in CW mode I could easily have made a real time QSO.
> decode was marginal, and then the same old repetive rubbish.
> g3kev
>
>
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Mal,<br><br>Not helpful and factually incorrect.<br><br>73s<br>Roger<br><b=
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<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">decode was marginal, and then the sam=
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<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">g3kev</font></div>
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Take more water with it.
 
I have no idea what you are seeing in your vision.
 
David
 
 
 
In a message dated 02/09/2009 20:59:12 GMT Standard Time,  
g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk writes:

This is well on par with the  goon show ,  

how to  open the  door , turn the   handle on your side . but I haven't 
.....etc 
 
>> wasn't decoding because I don't yet have a decoder.<<  

Just the  song ,  .... .. ....  ..  

G 
 



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What has that got to do with LF ?

Andy
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<DIV>Take more water with it.</DIV>
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Ok Dennis,

Yes I see  what you are describing, the system has  some  randomness in the 
tx / rx windows , most stations will set the  system to  33%  tx , ie you 
send for  33% of a  time period ..... the  system is in 'rx'  for the  other 
2/3 of the  time ...... as the top of the  minuet approaches, the  system 
enters 'rx' mode and  records for a 120  second  window .. this  co insides 
with 'other' stations  commencing tx

Once the  window is  closed ,the  received file is processed and the 
results are displayed on your screen and if selected , the  software will 
transmit the  results via the  web to  the  central data base , which , by 
the  locator  also  calculates the  distance

Your station will then wait till the  next  00-00  and either enter  tx or 
re commence 'rx' , don't worry too much about  frequency stability, the 
system will resolve quite a drift during  rx and a few seconds of  time 
error

G ..




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Subject: Re: LF: MY first WSPR - by ear ;)

>
>
>> >>>I have learnt, WSPR sounds like a slightly rough CW and is transmitted
>> in
>> >>>4min-blocks. <<<<<
>>
>> Dennis , That may  not be wspr , wspr  tx time is  120 seconds locked to
>> the
>> exact time , with the  start time on the  00-00
>> by sound its like a very  slow narrow shift psk signal .....but it is 
>> only
>> one  carrier  changing frequency  with  no breaks in the 120 second
>> transmission
>
> Okay better to say: One cycle seemed to be 4min, divided into abt. 115sec 
> TX and 125sec no TX, maybe RX? The beginning of the received transmissions 
> were always well within half a second around even minute + zero seconds 
> which to me seems to be the strongest hint that is really was some wspr 
> what I was hearing. (DCF77-clock beside the speaker)
>
> Since yesterday I'm looking for a notebook - to run wspr :)
>
> vy73
> Dennis
> DL6NVC
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Dear Roger, LF Group,

Well done on the first 500k attempt. There is quite a lot of QRN tonight on 
500k, which is reducing the signal-to-noise ratio. Hopefully, it will die 
down later - if you leave it running into daybreak tomorrow, you may well 
pick up a few more reports.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
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Hi Gus, LF!

1934  14 -19  1.1   0.503931  SM6BHZ JO57 30
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*Hi LF,**
*
*DJ6GT ?? captured this morning at 0954utc 29-09-2009 attached.*
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*73*
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*Gary - G4WGT - IO83QO.*

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Lubos OK2BVG wrote:
> Hello Clemens! My WSPR v.1.12 doesn=B4t work below 1MHz (=3D dial frq).
> It is the reason, why I use dial frequency 1.502500. Is there any
> "trick", how to set 0.502500?
>

Lubos,

It is easy!

Select "Band =3D Other"
In the "Dial" frequency box enter 0.5024

This works for me, with version 1.12


You might need to "double click" an area of the waterfall to set a TX=20
frequency, even though you are only using RX mode - I don't remember if=20
this is necessary.

John
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Hello Lubos and LF,

thank's report !

73 de Gus
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Lubos OK2BVG=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 4:32 AM
  Subject: LF: WSPR_SM6BHZ_ED6TBF


  Hello Gus, LF!

  The signal of  SM6BHZ in the best time :

  2248   1  0.9   1.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
  2252   3  1.0   1.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
  2300   6  0.9   1.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
  2306   2  1.0   1.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30

  I saw ED6TBF also:

  0022 -20  5.0   1.504001  2 ED6TBF (BadMsg)

  73!

  Lubos, OK2BVG


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  Ve slu=BEb=EC Windows Live m=F9=BEete uspo=F8=E1dat, upravit a sd=ED=
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<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4 face=3DArial>Hello Lubos and=20
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<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4 face=3DArial>thank's report=20
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os OK2BVG</A>=20
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@=
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  AM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: WSPR_SM6BHZ_ED6T=
BF</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>Hello Gus, LF!<BR><BR>The signal of&nbsp; SM6BHZ in=
 the best=20
  time :<BR><BR>2248&nbsp;&nbsp; 1&nbsp; 0.9&nbsp;&nbsp; 1.503925&nbsp=
; 0 SM6BHZ=20
  JO57 30<BR>2252&nbsp;&nbsp; 3&nbsp; 1.0&nbsp;&nbsp; 1.503925&nbsp;=
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p; 0=20
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bsp;&nbsp;=20
  1.504001&nbsp; 2 ED6TBF (BadMsg)<BR><BR>73!<BR><BR>Lubos, OK2BVG<BR>=
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HI henny and LF
Many thanks for the pics report...
good week
F8boj Claude JN16WA
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  Hello LF,
  Capture BOJ
  Henny pa3cpm
  73s
  Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden=
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Hi Claude,
Your signal excellent here copy here, sorry can't get back to you.
Vy 73,
Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent, UK, (JO01MI).

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Hello John and LF
Many thanks for the repport I am in qrp 24v 0.95A
only 21W...with the L inv antenna...the propagation is very very well
best regards
F8boj Claude JN16WA
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Hello Warren, LF!
Last night was quaiet and the propagation on 137kHz was very good here. I saw "XGJ" three times.
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Hello Warren, LF!<br>Last night was quaiet and the propagation on 137kHz was very good here. I saw "XGJ" three times.<br>73!<br><br>Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS &nbsp; <br><br /><hr />Sdílejte své zážitky s kýmkoli chcete <a href='http://www.microsoft.com/cze/windows/windowslive/products/photos-share.aspx?tab=1' target='_new'>s kýmkoli chcete.</a></body>
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As I think I may now have sorted sound card calibration I was wondering if
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Dear Roman, Gus, LF
In Gdansk today SM6BHZ WSPR signal +2dB.
And I am interested crosband qso.
--
Vy 73!
Marcin SQ2BXI

> Hi LF!
> 
> Looking SM6BHZ WSPR -19 now.
> 
> Somebody interesting to make an x-band 503 kHz/40 or 80m today?
> 
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> 


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He's from Northern Ireland and was transported to the Yorkshire penal colony
of Scarborough for being too vexatious and grumpy for the Northern Irish,
(that in itself is an achievement given that the Northern Irish are accepted
as the most argumentative and provocativee of the peoples who live on this
group of cold damp islands in the North Sea!)

So far off group topic as likely to incur the wrath of moderators and big
brothers so I'll stop now and get back to my coil and transformer winding
and sausage sandwich

With best regards
 
 
Jim
 
 
Dr. James Cowburn
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Mal,

>
> I am not from Yorkshire and therefore the Yorkshire accent is non 
> applicable.
>

Sorry - I thought Scarborough was in Yorkshire - I will have to look up 
Google Maps.

Or perhaps you mean you are a blow in (not born there, but moved there..).

>
> We have strayed away from LF/MF time to get back on track What is WSPR 
> doing for AUSTRALIA?
>

I like to learn.  I believe I will have something to learn everyday until I 
die.   At least that is my fervent wish (to learn, not to die...).

I played with WSPR for a couple of months and it taught me a lot about 
propagation.    With normal ham operation you don't get the 24/7 band 
opening watch as you do with WSPR.

WSPR is not for everyone - especially if you are after the awards.    I am a

self-confessed non-award chaser.

For those who, like myself, are still fascinated by the sheer magic of radio

even after 40 years, WSPR allows a fascinating (granted non-perfect) view of

radio propagation.

Here in Australia (I speak for the period when I was using it), it kindled a

lot of interest and discussion amongst those of us who like talking about 
radio to like-minded individuals.   I can only say it has been a positive 
influence.

These days the newest interest in VK for a lot of us is our newly acquired 
access to the 136kHz.

Despite being old hat for some over there, here it has sparked a rush to the

soldering irons and delving into raising the bar regarding frequency 
accuracy and stability.

Spare a though for us in VK, just when we have arrived at the 136kHz trough,

the rest of the world is heading off for the 500kHz feeding station 
(including our leaders in things LF/MF over here, the Kiwis...)

73   Steve Olney - VK2XV

http://www.djirra.com




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Hi ALL LF!
I'm read some messages and answer. But I so very out of reality to next 
discussion now. -)
I start my grabber ON 502.4 dial.
And start WSPR. Fine prog! Gold monument to Joe Taylor, K1JT on his 
motherland during his life!
I can reading all other messages tomorrow.

73!
Roman


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After 10 years HB9ASB is back on 136 KHz.
Testing on 136.5 kHz in CW with modest power and antenna. Will
increase pwr and install QRS later this year. 73 de Toni, JN36NU near
Fribourg


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* James Moritz <james.moritz@btopenworld.com> [Sun, 6 Sep 2009 21:05:12 
+0100]:
> Dear LF Group,
Hi Jim & LF!
Start my grabber on 503.5 dial freq.
http://qrss.nm.ru/grabber.html
But do not any traces near 504.

Roman


> The M0BMU WSPR beacon is running again - I have jacked up the antenna 
to
> increase the ERP a bit. G4WGT and G7NKS are also active - any reports
> would
> be very welcome.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
>




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Hello LF!
The DFCW signal of HF70W was huge last night.

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Hi Marcin,

Ok! one could test this evening with the antenna in the right direction .
I will ON the grabber  towards 19:00 UTC until 22:00 UTC with the
antenna at the QTF 55=B0 . Then I will pass in direction the USA .

73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

Marcin a =E9crit :
> Hello Jean Pierre
> Your grabber regularly copy my signal:
> http://www.sp2kds.pl/images/stories/f1afj.jpg
> Vy 73!
> Marcin SQ2BXI
>
> Hello Marcin ,
>
> Tnx for info , my antenna are at QTF 295=B0 (USA)
>
> 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj
>
> Marcin a =E9crit :
>  =20
>> Dear Jean Pierre, LF
>> It is HF70W QRSS 60 signal.
>> Vy 73!
>> Marcin SQ2BXI
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>>> Hello LF'ers ,
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>>> I copy on 137,778 unidentified signal ?
>>> 22:00 =3D> 23:00 utc ( see on picture )
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>>> 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj
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On 6 Sep 2009 at 21:05, James Moritz wrote:

> Dear LF Group,
> 
> The M0BMU WSPR beacon is running again - I have jacked up the antenna to
> increase the ERP a bit. G4WGT and G7NKS are also active - any reports
> would be very welcome.
> 
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU 

OK, it looks as if the sound card clock synch error is the problem. As 
suggested I have been trying recording for the first minute of each 
period then stopping - by the simple expedient of switching the K2 to a 
different band. Result, solid copy.....

1958  16  2.5   0.503972  0 M0BMU IO91 37
2000  16  2.4   0.503972  0 M0BMU IO91 37
2002  16  2.6   0.503972  0 M0BMU IO91 37
2006 -26  6.2   0.503965  0 M0BMU IO91 37
2006  16  2.6   0.503972  0 000AAA (BadMsg)
2008  12  2.5   0.503972  0 M0BMU IO91 37
2010  11  2.7   0.503971  0 M0BMU IO91 37

(apart from something went a bit wrong at 2006... And note the +16dB, 
you are strong!).

I can see a couple of other weak traces on the spectrogram but no copy 
of others.

(and having now stopped doing that tedious turning off after 1 minute I 
now see that it is copying Jim solidly now on full cycles. Maybe you 
did something your end Jim?.....)

73 Dave G3YMC

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Dear LF Group,

I am now running a "standard" WOLF 10 mode beacon on 503.500kHz for the next 
few hours. Any reports would be very welcome. Information and software 
downloads can be found at http://freenet-homepage.de/dl4yhf/wolf/index.html. 
The beacon may shut down from time to time, because the signal seems to 
scramble my ADSL modem...

Cheers, Jim Moritz
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Dear Dave, Roger, LF Group,

I have attached a screen shot of WSPR signals from SM6BHZ and G3XBM received 
just now, using Spectrum Lab set up for QRSS3 reception. The corresponding 
WSPR spots were:

1836 -12  0.0   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 33
1840 -27  2.9   0.503890  0 G3XBM JO02 0

SM6BHZ was an audible signal which would have been weak but copy-able CW - I 
expect Gus's signal will pick up by 10dB or so as the night progresses. 
G3XBM is never audible at all - the QRN is building rapidly now, but during 
the day I get 100% copy at about -25 or -26dB; when noise levels build up I 
sometimes get correct copy at -30dB or so. So that's what it looks like when 
it is working ;-)

It makes no detectable difference whether I use the SSB filter or 250Hz CW 
filter on the IC718 - even the local signals on 500k are not really strong 
enough to overload the audio, provided the RF gain is backed well off so 
that the S meter reads about s7 or 8. You do need the narrow filter on 136k 
of course.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU

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Hello John and Clemens!

Select "Band =3D Other"
In the "Dial" frequency box enter 0.5024

Yes, it was the first setting, what I tried, but it didn=B4t work. I am su=
re, that something other was wrong in my PC, becouse I am just testing thi=
s setting and all is OK. Thanks for yours  support in this problem! You ma=
de me sure, my first setting was OK. I am glad, WSPR is doing well now.=20

Thanks and 73!

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

******************************

> Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 10:07:11 +0000
> From: gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: Re: LF: WSPR_SET
>=20
> Lubos OK2BVG wrote:
> > Hello Clemens! My WSPR v.1.12 doesn=B4t work below 1MHz (=3D dial frq)=
.
> > It is the reason, why I use dial frequency 1.502500. Is there any
> > "trick", how to set 0.502500?
> >
>=20
> Lubos,
>=20
> It is easy!
>=20
> Select "Band =3D Other"
> In the "Dial" frequency box enter 0.5024
>=20
> This works for me, with version 1.12
>=20
>=20
> You might need to "double click" an area of the waterfall to set a TX=20
> frequency, even though you are only using RX mode - I don't remember if=
=20
> this is necessary.
>=20
> John
> GM4SLV
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Hello John and Clemens!<br><br>Select "Band =3D Other"<br>In the "Dial" fr=
equency box enter 0.5024<br><br>Yes, it was the first setting, what I trie=
d, but it didn=B4t work. I am sure, that something other was wrong in my=
 PC, becouse I am just testing this setting and all is OK. Thanks for your=
s&nbsp; support in this problem! You made me sure, my first setting was OK=
. I am glad, WSPR is doing well now. <br><br>Thanks and 73!<br><br>Lubos,=
 OK2BVG, JN88KS<br><br>******************************<br><br>&gt; Date: Su=
n, 20 Sep 2009 10:07:11 +0000<br>&gt; From: gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk<=
br>&gt; To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<br>&gt; Subject: Re: LF: WSPR_SET=
<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Lubos OK2BVG wrote:<br>&gt; &gt; Hello Clemens! My WSPR=
 v.1.12 doesn=B4t work below 1MHz (=3D dial frq).<br>&gt; &gt; It is the=
 reason, why I use dial frequency 1.502500. Is there any<br>&gt; &gt; "tri=
ck", how to set 0.502500?<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Lubos,<br>&gt; <br=
>&gt; It is easy!<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Select "Band =3D Other"<br>&gt; In the=
 "Dial" frequency box enter 0.5024<br>&gt; <br>&gt; This works for me, wit=
h version 1.12<br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; You might need to "double click"=
 an area of the waterfall to set a TX <br>&gt; frequency, even though you=
 are only using RX mode - I don't remember if <br>&gt; this is necessary.<=
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VK2ZTO wrote:

> G'day All,
> 
> I can't believe why you guys get so steamed up about Mal's comments. 
> Surely you know Mal is a troll (internet term - look it up...).
> <<< snip >>>

Hi Steve,

    nice to read you after some time ! And you made me really laugh with
your message, indeed factual and up to the point !   Thanks for that  !

73  Alberto  I2PHD



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a more fundamental question.
 at the bottom of the WSPR screen a red box has Rx Noise then a -dB number. What order of dBs do you normally see in here.

regards
peter


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===========================================

Dear Graham, LF Group,

The SNR you see with Spectrum Lab will depend also on the relation between 
the spectrogram bandwidth (depending mostly on the resolution of the Fast 
Fourier Transform process) and the spectrum of the signal being monitored. 
Usually, the signal has a larger bandwidth than the FFT "bin", so varying 
amounts of signal appear in different bins. So the SNR measured from the 
spectrum graph is only useful as a relative measure between signals of the 
same type, without further analysis to total up the signal power in 
different bins.

To get the SNR for a particular mode from the WSPR SNR data for 2500Hz BW, 
you need to take the different bandwidths into account:

mode SNR(dB) = WSPR SNR - 10log(mode bandwidth / 2500Hz)

So if WSPR was giving SNR of -10dB, the SNR for PSK31 with 62Hz bandwidth 
would be +6.1dB.

What SNR is actually needed for successful copy depends on the type of 
modulation, the effectiveness of error correction, how good the demodulator 
is, what the nature of the noise is, etc. I suppose for most modes it is 
between about 0 and +several dB

Cheers, Jim moritz
73 de M0BMU




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* Roman RW3ADB <rw3adb@rambler.ru> [Sat, 12 Sep 2009 03:35:43 +0400]:
> Hi Andy, LF.
> Started my grabber on 502.4 dial, WSPR prog and two window into 
grabber
> up to morning here.

Changed to 502.35 dial


> Roman
>
>
> * Andy Talbot <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com> [Fri, 11 Sep 2009 20:50:28
> +0100]:
> > The G4JNT  Beacon on 503.700kHz is back on.   Every 15 minutes at 
the
> > t+4
> > minute epoch.
> >
> > I'll have to think how to include a WSPR waveform as well as the
> > original
> > signal type.   It will almost certainly  be too much for a single
> 16F628
> > PIC
> > to be able to include both.   Can probably do it if I remove the 
PSK31
> > component, but there have been several reports / decodes of that, so
> it
> > ought to remain.
> >
> > Easiest solution may be to use two PIC / DDS drivers, one handiing
> each
> > signal type and work out an arbitration scheme for when they both 
want
> > to Tx
> > at the same time.
> >
> >
> > Andy
> > www.g4jnt.com
> >
> > this email has been scanned for political correctness by the nanny
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>
>
>
>



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Hello Gus, LF!
This is my first experiment with WSPR.=20
73!

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS


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Jim the HF70W LF station is stopped, Problems with the  transmitter (MOSFE=
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drivers are QRT)

73 de F4DTL  Nicolas
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Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 19/09/2009 22:42:21 Paris, Madrid (heure d'=E9t=
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james.moritz@btopenworld.com a =E9crit :

Dear  Marcin, LF Group,

M0BMU is on around 137.7kHz this evening - is HF70W  going to be QRV=20
tonight?

QRN level is high here...

Cheers, Jim  Moritz
73 de M0BMU=20








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Hi Gus,
Your TX is Q5 here in JO01MI, talking and tones.
Vy 73,
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G'day Alberto,

Nice to hear from you again too.

As you may know, we here in VK have been granted access to 136kHz this year, 
albeit by way of a sort of NOV.    Almost all of the active VK LF stations 
are using your excellent QRSS viewer ARGO.   So, once again, thank you for 
providing this.

LF reception highlights for me using ARGO have been the signals from ZL 
(ZL3JE) on 137.900kHz, various intra-VK transmissions, daytime reception of 
a ZL NDB carrier using 120s mode on 214kHz (distance 2000km) and, recently, 
reception of Mori's (JH1GVY) QRSS120 beacon on 137777.4Hz from JA (8000km) 
from his balloon antenna.    Despite the usual background noise from the 
jaded "pooh-poohers" and "dunbefores" I derive a lot of enjoyment out of 
these activities.

The enjoyment derived from these would not be possible without your 
software.

Along with your other software you have made a positive contribution to our 
hobby and (I apologise for using an 'F' word) raised the level of FUN for a 
lot of operators.

Sorry to embarass you with this paean, but to not acknowledge such 
contributions would be small-minded in the extreme.

Thanks.

73 Steve 



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Hello John and Lf
Is f8boj Claude in test
Many thanks.....
F8boj Claude
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> At 1600z.
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Dear Jim and group,

this evening i run WSPR beacon with abt 10 dB more power.

73 de Gus SM6BHZ
www.sm6bhz.com


----- Original Message ----- 
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> Dear LF Group,
>
> The M0BMU WSPR beacon is running again tonight 0n 503.975kHz (502.4k "dial 
> frequency"). Any reports are very welcome. Also a very strong signal from 
> SM6BHZ tonight.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
> 





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It was an excellent signal Claude, I think I could have copied CW about 449.
Thanks for the first QSO.

73
Dave

2009/9/13 Claude Berthebaud <f8boj@club-internet.fr>

> Hello Dave and lf Group Trong signal Dave G3YXM i received your audio
> many thanks for qso
> Claude F8BOJ JN16WA...
> best regards




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It was an excellent signal Claude, I think I could have copied CW about 44=
9.<br>Thanks for the first QSO.<br><br>73<br>Dave <br><br><div class=3D"gm=
ail_quote">2009/9/13 Claude Berthebaud <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"ma=
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<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204,=
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 lf Group Trong signal Dave G3YXM i received your audio<br>
many thanks for qso<br>
Claude F8BOJ JN16WA...<br>
best regards</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>G3YXM IO92=
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Dear Marcin, LF Group,

M0BMU is on around 137.7kHz this evening - is HF70W going to be QRV tonight?

QRN level is high here...

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU 



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Hi Mal,
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Hi LF,
Capture 505khz
henny cpm
73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
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Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld.

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi LF,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Capture 505khz</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>henny cpm</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>73s</FONT></DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het volgende 
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Not quite Dennis. A WSPR transmission period is 114 secs, starting on 
each even minute and stopping at 54 seconds after the second minute. 
These periods are fairly accurately timed. A station transmitting will 
have set his desired transmit duty cycle, from 10% to 100%. So you will 
occasionally hear continuous transmissions except for a gap of 6 
seconds before each even minute. More usually it will be more like a 
25% duty cycle with transmissions every 4 or 5 cycles. In your case you 
heard a station with a 50% duty cycle, transmitting one period and 
listening the next.

Just got bored and turned the WSPR monitor off, solid copy of SM6BHZ 
with the occasional one from G7NKS. It seems nobody else is on tonight.

73 Dave G3YMC

On 14 Sep 2009 at 21:54, Dennis wrote:

> 
> > >>>I have learnt, WSPR sounds like a slightly rough CW and is
> > >>>transmitted
> > in 
> > >>>4min-blocks. <<<<<
> > 
> > Dennis , That may  not be wspr , wspr  tx time is  120 seconds locked
> > to the exact time , with the  start time on the  00-00 by sound its
> > like a very  slow narrow shift psk signal .....but it is only one 
> > carrier  changing frequency  with  no breaks in the 120 second
> > transmission
> 
> Okay better to say: One cycle seemed to be 4min, divided into abt.
> 115sec TX and 125sec no TX, maybe RX? The beginning of the received
> transmissions were always well within half a second around even minute +
> zero seconds which to me seems to be the strongest hint that is really
> was some wspr what I was hearing. (DCF77-clock beside the speaker)
> 
> Since yesterday I'm looking for a notebook - to run wspr :)
> 
> vy73
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HI Dave and Nicolas...
Many thanks for the super pics report..
Bon dimanche =E0 Nicolas good sunday Dave..
and thank you very match for the contact.
Claude F8boj      jn16wa
  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  It was an excellent signal Claude, I think I could have copied CW ab=
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  Thanks for the first QSO.

  73
  Dave=20


  2009/9/13 Claude Berthebaud <f8boj@club-internet.fr>

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The same applies here M0BMU does not represent LF/MF UK activity. It appears 
this was a false start and generated unnecessary debate.
G3KEV

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Jim, Alan,

     Fritz does NOT represent all of the US 500kHz activity and his
band plan is not being followed here by non-XSH stations so I would
take all this with a large grain of salt.  Keep in mind that in
addition to WD2XSH there is WE2XPQ, WD2XFX, and WE2XTT, and a half
dozen WE2XGR stations as well as other pending applications.

-- 
73 Warren K2ORS
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                WE2XEB/2
                WE2XGR/1




On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Alan Melia <alan.melia@btinternet.com> 
wrote:
> Hi Jim. whist it involves a change in "usage" from our end it would not 
> seem
> unreasonable to ensure that the US stations have a chance of hearing us
> without nearby swamping. I think this is an interesting development 
> becasuse
> it now seems that Frtiz is extending the experiment to intercontinental
> tests/qsos.......an activity he discouraged earlier....due to the terms of
> the original application and grant I believe. I have to admit my opinions
> carry very little weight as a "non-active operator" :-)) But maybe it will
> stimulate others with differing opinions to voice them to you.
>
> Best wishes
> Alan G3NYK
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "James Moritz" <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 2:14 PM
> Subject: LF: Re: US 500-kHz band plan
>
>
>> Dear LF Group,
>>
>> I still haven't replied to Fritz Raab, W1FR, regarding the WD2XSH US band
>> plan which he is apparently coordinating - you may remember I posted the
> US
>> proposals, which he sent me, a couple of weeks ago, but have not received
>> any comments from other UK/Eu stations. I think I should reply with
>> something, so now is your chance... The proposal relates to the US
>> allocation extending to 495 - 515kHz, and how that would fit in with
> current
>> UK and Eu beacon operations. The content of the e-mail is below. The 
>> issue
>> is that they would like to make a 501.0 - 501.2kHz WSPR sub-band, to fit
> in
>> with the various other proposals. Various other types of beacon modes are
>> allocated frequencies outside the UK/EI/ON 501 - 504kHz range, while
> 501.2 -
>> 504kHz is allocated to "general comms". Retaining frequencies just below
>> 504kHz would divide their "general comms" band in two
>>
>> I don't think there is anything preventing us from doing this, it is just
>> the inconvenience of turning the current band "upside-down". Let me know
>> what you think!
>>
>> Cheers, Jim Moritz
>> 73 de M0BMU
>>
>> >>>From W1FR:
>>
>> Greetings:
>>
>> Thanks for the comments on the band plan, passed
>> along to me by W1XP.
>>
>> About a month ago, a modification to the WD2XSH
>> license was approved that adds stations and gives us
>> access to 495 - 510 kHz. Perhaps half of the 42 stations
>> will eventually get on the air. Because of NDBs, some
>> stations are limited to parts of this band and we will
>> have two calling frequencies and two beacon bands.
>>
>> A draft of our new band plan follows. Of particular
>> interest is WSPR. As I see it, our options are:
>>
>> (a) 501.0-501.2: Conveniently on one side of our comms
>> band. Will not overload WSPR receivers near 504 kHz.
>> Apparently in EU CW-beacon band.
>>
>> (b) 503.8-504.0: Apparently same as what you guys are
>> using. Cuts our comms band in the middle. Nearby
>> stations may overload US receivers trying to hear EUs.
>>
>> (c) 503.9-504.1: Same problems as above with cutting
>> comms band in two and overloading. Conveniently
>> straddles both G/ON/EI and Canadian bands.
>>
>> Any further thoughts you may have will be
>> appreciated.
>>
>>
>> 73, Fritz, W1FR
>>
>> Frederick H. (Fritz) Raab, Ph.D.
>> GREEN MOUNTAIN RADIO RESEARCH COMPANY
>> 77 Vermont Avenue, Fort Ethan Allen
>> Colchester, Vermont 05446 USA
>> Tel./Fax.: +1 (802) 655-9670 Home: +1 (802) 862-0997
>> E-mail: f.raab@ieee.org
>>
>> BASIC BAND PLAN for WD2XSH
>>
>> f, kHz USE
>>
>> 495.0 - 495.1 QRSS, 1-Hz spacing, 40 stations
>> 495.1 - 495.6 CW/PSK beacons midwest, 100-Hz spacing, 10 stations
>> 495.6 - 499.0 Comms
>> 497.5 Calling frequency
>> 499.0 - 501.0 Reserved for heritage stations and special events
>> 501.0 - 501.2 WSPR
>> 501.2 - 505.0 Comms
>> 505.0 - 505.2 DX window
>> 505.2 - 508.5 Comms
>> 507.5 Calling frequency
>> 508.5 - 510.0 CW/PSK beacons east, south, west, Pacific, 50-Hz spacing,
> 30
>> stations
>> 510.0 - 511.0 WE2XGR beacons
>> 511.0 - 515.0 WE2XGR SSB and wideband modes
>>
>>
>> OTHER IN-BAND SIGNALS
>>
>> 503.976 NEED LSB
>> 505.0 NEED carrier
>> 506.024 NEED USB
>>
>> 508.976 OF/FA LSB
>> 510.0 OF/FA carrier
>> 511.024 OF/FA USB
>>
>>
>
>
>



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Dear Gus, LF Group,
this evening i have a strong qrm on 500 khz so i've already switched off 
my rx gear.
you will find  (attached)  a part  of a wspr receiving window  where 
this qrm is  (on average) stronger than Gus signal
and  partially overlapping it but still  i've got a positive decode of  
SM6BHZ  at 2112 UTC ( it is sent to wspr database)
090908 2112  23  -7  0.6   0.503955  SM6BHZ JO57 40     

                                                 73 de peter, sq7mpj
qth: Lodz  /jo91rs/

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Hi John (and others),

Thanks again for listening out for me on 500kHz WSPR. The only reports
overnight were from G3XVL in Ipswich, a path that seems to be very reliable
from here even with my tiny QRP set-up.

Although I will run the beacon again overnight tonight, it looks like I need
to improve my antenna, ground and TX power to get more range. These are all
things I shall address when I get back from holiday. The TX transverter will
easily convert to a full RX/TX transverter, so with a bit more power I can
have a go at some CW QSOs as well.

I've been a late starter with my 500kHz NoV, but I can't tell you how much
fun this is now. The breakthrough was realising that although big antennas,
lots of power and large low loss ATUs are "a good thing" they are not a *
necessity* to get results, at least with WSPR.

Thanks again for the encouragement given here by everyone.

73s
Roger G3XBM
http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/




2009/9/15 John P-G <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk>

> Roger Lapthorn wrote:
>
>>  Overnight tonight I shall be running the WSPR beacon again in the hope
>> that
>> a few more people may spot my tiny signal.
>>
>
> Roger, LF,
>
> Still no copy here, but it's early days!
>
> I've moved the MF WSPR receiver to 160m if you fancy a daytime test on that
> band, as a comparison?
>
> Dial = 1.8366MHz
>
> Will leave it running and reporting spots while I'm at work.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> John
> GM4SLV
>
>
>


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Hi John (and others),<br><br>Thanks again for listening out for me on 500k=
Hz WSPR. The only reports overnight were from G3XVL in Ipswich, a path tha=
t seems to be very reliable from here even with my tiny QRP set-up. <br><b=
r>
Although I will run the beacon again overnight tonight, it looks like I ne=
ed to improve my antenna, ground and TX power to get more range. These are=
 all things I shall address when I get back from holiday. The TX transvert=
er will easily convert to a full RX/TX transverter, so with a bit more pow=
er I can have a go at some CW QSOs as well.<br>
<br>I&#39;ve been a late starter with my 500kHz NoV, but I can&#39;t tell=
 you how much fun this is now. The breakthrough was realising that althoug=
h big antennas, lots of power and large low loss ATUs are &quot;a good thi=
ng&quot; they are not a <i>necessity</i> to get results, at least with WSP=
R. <br>
<br>Thanks again for the encouragement given here by everyone.<br><br>73s<=
br>Roger G3XBM<br><a href=3D"http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/">http://g3xbm-=
qrp.blogspot.com/</a> <br><br><br><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/=
9/15 John P-G <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gm4slv@sighthound.de=
mon.co.uk">gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk</a>&gt;</span><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204,=
 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div class=3D"i=
m">Roger Lapthorn wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204,=
 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
=A0Overnight tonight I shall be running the WSPR beacon again in the hope=
 that<br>
a few more people may spot my tiny signal.<br>
</blockquote>
<br></div>
Roger, LF,<br>
<br>
Still no copy here, but it&#39;s early days!<br>
<br>
I&#39;ve moved the MF WSPR receiver to 160m if you fancy a daytime test on=
 that band, as a comparison?<br>
<br>
Dial =3D 1.8366MHz<br>
<br>
Will leave it running and reporting spots while I&#39;m at work.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
<br>
John<br>
GM4SLV<br>
<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>----------------------=
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gspot.com/">http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.g3=
xbm.co.uk">http://www.g3xbm.co.uk</a><br>
G3XBM =A0 =A0GQRP 1678 =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL G11088<br>

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Roman ,
My grabber is ON ,
antenna at QTF 60=C2=B0 for 2 hours ,
after i swich in USA direction !
73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

Roman RW3ADB a =C3=A9crit :
> Hi Jean-Pierre & LF agn!
> Yep, condx are very good!
> I was surprised last night!
> I'm put the screenshots from all night into QRSS-90 mode and half of=20
> night in QRSS-120 onto my report 136-page:
> http://qrss.nm.ru/136.html
>
> 73!
> Roman
>
> * "\"Jean-Pierre M=C3=A9r=C3=A9 (F1AFJ)\"" <jpm.f1afj@online.fr> [Sun,=
 06 Sep=20
> 2009 19:42:47 +0200]:
>> Hi  Roman ,
>> Tnx , good conditions !
>> 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj
>>
>> Roman RW3ADB a =C3=A9crit :
>> > Hello Jean-Pierre & LF!
>> > It was an UA4WPF beacon.He was visible very good during the last=20
> night
>> > into my grabber in Moscow.
>> > http://rw3adb.narod.ru/2009/5sep2009_UA4WPF/137.07W_90_00009.jpg
>> > http://rw3adb.narod.ru/2009/5sep2009_UA4WPF/137.07W_120_00002.jpg
>> > Was traced onto your grabber and DF6NM too.
>> >
>> > * "\"Jean-Pierre M=C3=A9r=C3=A9 (F1AFJ)\"" <jpm.f1afj@online.fr> [Sun=
, 06 Sep
>> > 2009 13:59:27 +0200]:
>> >> Ok Andrey , Tnx for info
>> >>
>> >> 73 Jean-Pierre
>> >>
>> >> Andrey rn3agc a =C3=A9crit :
>> >> > Hi Jean-Pierre,
>> >> > It, probably, was beacon UA4WPF.
>> >> >
>> >> > 73
>> >> > Andrey
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >> Hello LF ,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> My antenna was in directection of the USA , I raised of the=20
> traces
>> > on
>> >> >> 137777. 2 , I suppose that it is ACG in beaconning !
>> >> >>
>> >> >> 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Roman RW3ADB.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
>
>
> --=20
> Roman RW3ADB.
>
>
>

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* Roman RW3ADB <rw3adb@rambler.ru> [Sun, 20 Sep 2009 01:17:50 +0400]:
> * Lubos OK2BVG <bvgbob@hotmail.com> [Sat, 19 Sep 2009 22:55:28 +0200]:
> >
> > Hello Anatolij, LF!
> > I just see your signal QRSS60.
> >
> > Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS
>
> Actually visible onto RA9CUA grabber:
> http://ra9cua.nm.ru/

Onto RA3YO grabber visible also too:
http://ra3yo.narod.ru/graber.html

> unstable S - UA9CS signal.
>
>  Roman
>
> PS- My grabber on 500 today.
>
>
>
> >
> > _________________________________________________________________
> > P=C5=99et=C3=A1hn=C4=9Bte si fotografie p=C5=99=C3=ADmo do chatu v Mes=
senger. Jak se do d=C4=9Bl=C3=A1.
> > http://download.live.com/messenger
> >
> > * "090919_WPF.JPG"
>
>
>



--
Roman RW3ADB.

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Hello Clemens and LF,

yes it seams like it is good conds this evening.

thank's report and info !

73 de Gus SM6BHZ
www.sm6bhz.com


----- Original Message ----- 
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> Hi Gus,
>
> very good condx tonight.
>       2009-09-15 19:42   SM6BHZ   0.503925   +13   0   JO57wq   1   DL4RAJ 
> JN68kj   1035 176
>       2009-09-15 19:40   SM6BHZ   0.503925   +13   0   JO57wq   1   DL4RAJ 
> JN68kj   1035 176
>       2009-09-15 19:38   SM6BHZ   0.503925   +13   0   JO57wq   1   DL4RAJ 
> JN68kj   1035 176
>       2009-09-15 19:36   SM6BHZ   0.503925   +12   0   JO57wq   1   DL4RAJ 
> JN68kj   1035 176
>
>
> 73
> Clemens
> DL4RAJ
> 





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Dear Jim, Roger, LF Group,

The M0BMU WOLF beacon is now running on 503.500kHz - I don't know what 
frequency G7NKS plans to be on , but would suggest about 100Hz spacing. If 
you are at reasonably close distance, and set up on the right receive 
frequency, you should be seeing a trace about 20Hz wide in the centre of the 
WOLF waterfall. However, for more distant stations, you can expect 
successful decodes even when there is no visible trace. It should be 
interesting to see how WOLF fares when trying to receive a weaker signal 
close to a stronger one.

Any reports will be very welcome.

Cheers
----- Original Message ----- 


From: "James Cowburn" <james.cowburn@virgin.net>
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> Dear All
>
>
>
> G7NKS   ("No Known Signal! Hi hi) will be also txing on Wolf tonight.  I
> will send G7NKS IO92UB 10mw.   I am still v QRPppp but we'll see how I get
> on.



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Dear LF group,
The present discussion  about  uk/us 500 kHz bandplan  has triggered  a 
question which i  was going to  put here, on this reflector ,
for some time.  In Poland, we still lack this MF band allocation to 
radioamateurs.  There is a small group of hams interested  in  having an 
access to this band..
Some time ago i was asked  by one of our  PZK ( Polish Radioamateur 
Union)  officials to prepare a  sort of a  preliminary note about this 
issue
I plan to write such a  note ( along with Marcin, sq2bxi and others)
Athough this lf_reflector is uk based we all know that it has a 
world-wide character including stations from G,W,F,DL,S,OK,ON,EI,PA,I 
,OE,HB,VE
( i am sorry if  any other country prefix has been ommited) . Therefore 
, my ask is the following:
please , write  here  , on this reflector,   the 500 khz band  
allocation in particular countries  i.e.  band limits as well as   EIRP 
power,special permits. etc...
Obviously,  with such an information provided  the   "power" of  such a 
note will be greatly increased.

                                                                                               
73 de Piotr, sq7mpj
qth: Lodz /jo91rs/


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John and LF,

it could be somone who just have install the program and forget to put up 
his signal and locator ! In other word , the factory setup is still in the 
program.

73 de Gus

----- Original Message ----- 
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>
> Jay,
>
> I know K1JT is active on 500kHz RX, but I think Andy had a fair point 
> about other people not setting their WSPR data correctly, judging from the 
> spot below:-
>
> 2009-09-20 18:16 SM6BHZ 0.503926 +12 0 JO57wq 2 K1JT FN20
>
>
> With the best will in the world I don't think K1JT is receiving Gus at 
> +12dB on 500kHz, at 18:00UTC when most of the path is in daylight :-)
>
> John
> GM4SLV
>
>
> jrusgrove@comcast.net wrote:
>> Andy
>>
>> K1JT, AA1A, W1XP, W1VD and W1TAG have been watching for EU WSPR. All 
>> display correct station information.
>>
>> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>
>
> 





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Hello Warren, LF!
I saw your signal in the sunrise time in OK.

73!

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I have some copy of SM6BHZ in the past half hour:
0016 -29  0.9   0.503951   0  SM6BHZ JO57 30
0026 -28  1.0   0.503951   0  SM6BHZ JO57 30
0034 -27  1.0   0.503951   0  SM6BHZ JO57 30
0040 -26  1.2   0.503951   0  SM6BHZ JO57 30

Will let it run overnight and see if any other calls show up.

John Andrews, W1TAG/1
Raymond, Maine FN42ch


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Dear Dave, LF Group,

The settings here are all the same as the last few nights, except that the 
antenna is a bit higher up! The other two (3 now) stations are consistently 
decoding here.

Thanks for doing the test - this does seem to be a problem relating to 
particular PC hardware and perhaps operating systems and drivers too.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Sergeant" <dave@davesergeant.com>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 9:20 PM
Subject: LF: Re: WSPR beacon



> OK, it looks as if the sound card clock synch error is the problem. As
> suggested I have been trying recording for the first minute of each
> period then stopping - by the simple expedient of switching the K2 to a
> different band. Result, solid copy.....
> 



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Hi John

Let me know if you rx the new and improved G7NKS!

With best regards
 
 
Jim
 
 
Dr. James Cowburn
E james.cowburn@virgin.net
 


-----Original Message-----
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Subject: Re: LF: G7NKS on WSPR with new ANT system

James Cowburn wrote:
> Dear LF
> 
>  
> 
> Just set up new Ant system, hopefully a lot less lossy so I should not be
as
> QRPppp.  Operating on WSPR 502.4

I'm setup to receive on 502.4 WSPR for now but am tempted to QSY to 
508.5 WOLF for WE2XGR/5..perhaps later at say 2200UTC

Too many things to do at the same time - 1 RX locked to the 5MHz 
beacons, one on 5MHz WSPR and the 3rd on MF (WSPR/WOLF etc) ....!

Cheers,

John
GM4SLV



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Correction of the call sign in the subject:M0BMU

73
Clemens
DL4RAJ
  ----- Original Message ----- 
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  Subject: LF: 500kHz wspr beacon M0MBU


  Hi Jim,

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  DL4RAJ


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* James Moritz <james.moritz@btopenworld.com> [Sun, 6 Sep 2009 21:11:44 
+0100]:
> ...I should have said that it is on 503.975kHz, 502.4k "dial 
frequency"

I copy you with QSB, I think.
How is the other station WSPR is near 503.950?
http://rw3adb.narod.ru/2009/7sep2009_503.5kHz/503.5W_3_00011.jpg
http://rw3adb.narod.ru/2009/7sep2009_503.5kHz/503.5W_3_00012.jpg
http://rw3adb.narod.ru/2009/7sep2009_503.5kHz/503.5_090907003036.jpg

Roman

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "James Moritz" <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 9:05 PM
> Subject: LF: WSPR beacon
>
>
> > Dear LF Group,
> >
> > The M0BMU WSPR beacon is running again - I have jacked up the 
antenna
> to
> > increase the ERP a bit. G4WGT and G7NKS are also active - any 
reports
> > would be very welcome.
> >
> > Cheers, Jim Moritz
> > 73 de M0BMU
> >
>
>




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At 09:57 PM 9/10/2009, W1TAG wrote:
>J.B.,
>
>For work at 500 kHz, I'd be tempted to go no longer than 16 frames. 
>I'm beginning to think that the fast fades and poorer phase 
>stability hurt the build-up of copy. While you may get your first 
>clear copy on the 31st line, I'll bet that you would have gotten it 
>quicker by flushing things out earlier.
>
>That said, 8 lines appears to be too short for any reasonable copy 
>of M0BMU here. I used 12 earlier in the week with decent results, 
>and have gone back to it.

WOLF was originally set up as a batch mode but the GUI adaptation 
made it convenient to run it continuously.  However, some of the 
batch mode philosophy still comes into play because the "integration 
time" builds up gradually.  It starts with one frame, then builds up 
to a resultant over n frames, then dumps everything and starts all 
over again at one frame, etc.  That isn't particularly compatible 
with continuous operation.  It would probably be better to do it like 
we used to in the COHERENT/AFRICAM BPSK software, i.e. to keep a 
"running" average.  COHERENT/AFRICA had a parameter called GRAB, 
which specified the number (n) of consecutive frames to be averaged 
together.  On startup, the algorithm worked just like WOLF, it built 
up gradually, using first one frame, then two, etc, until n frames 
were in the average.  Thereafter it continued to use only the *last* 
n frames.  It was done by keeping a set of accumulators and a large 
historical database of past samples.  Each time a new frame was 
received, its values were added into the accumulators and 
simultaneously the oldest values (from n samples back) were 
subtracted off.  That way we had a sliding window n frames wide, 
moving continuously forward through time.  One advantage was that we 
were working with much shorter frames (i.e. 16 or 32 bits vs 960 bits 
for WOLF blocks), so the amount of memory and computation required 
was considerably less.  Obviously we cannot afford to be 
compute-bound at the end of each frame for more than the time it 
takes to receive the next frame.  On the other hand, we have much 
faster processors these days and memory isn't an 
issue.  COHERENT/AFRICA could integrate in two ways: by sample or by 
decoded bit.  By sample gives better results but is impractical for 
long GRABs unless the timing is locked to GPS at both ends: once you 
accumulate half a Hz of frequency offset adding in more samples 
actually hurts more than it helps because destructive interference 
sets in.  Integrating after bit decoding allowed us to run for much 
longer times because it still pays off to do it until the offset 
reaches half a bit-time (50 msec vs 62.5 usec).  WOLF also does a 
frequency search at each update which multiplies the amount of 
compute time whereas COHERENT/AFRICA assumed the frequency was a 
known parameter.  We did eventually incorporate a tracking filter 
which was an attempt to follow a slowly-changing frequency, but that 
never proved to be very helpful.  The optimum value of n can be 
expected to vary over time depending on current propagation 
conditions.  Perhaps some kind of adaptive filter to adjust the value 
of n continuously to give the best decode of WOLF's 480-bit PRN sync channel?

Bill VE2IQ



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Dear Mal, LF Group,

Please check your keyboard - the shift key seems to be stuck!

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU


> THIS OBSERVATION IS INCORRECT. etc. etc. etc....


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This is beats 20m ssb dx anyday for "wow" factor!



With best regards
 
 
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of John P-G
Sent: 11 September 2009 07:27
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: WSPR G7NKS

James, LF,

Another successful decode this morning, the only one from you, but at 
least you made it once!

090911 0410   4 -27  1.1   0.503953  G7NKS IO92 10

Cheers!

John
GM4SLV
IP90gg
Shetland



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Dear Jim, Gus,  LF Group

In night today:
2124   1 -1.3   0.503926  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2130 -30 -1.2   0.503841  0 M0BMU IO91 33
2130   3 -1.2   0.503926  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2134   1 -1.4   0.503926  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2140   2  0.9   0.503926  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2146   3  0.9   0.503926  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
--
Vy 73!
Marcin SQ2BXI



> M0BMU very clear at 503.840 WSPR:
> 
> 193400   4  11  1.5  -896  0  M0BMU IO91 33
> 
> 73 - IK1ODO - JN35sa
> 
> 


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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "James Moritz" <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 6:15 PM
Subject: LF: Re: WSPR Signals


> Dear Chris, LF Group,
>
> Thanks for the reports on the 136kHz signals.
>
> G4AYT wrote:
>>>>
> ...I am having difficulty in seeing the point of some of this when there 
> is
> little in the way of exchanged information between stations. There is a
> place for beacons, certainly. What concerns me is that the casual listener
> tuning across the band probably has no idea there's anybody on.
>>>>
>
> On 500k, there are a handful of fairly local stations and a couple of "big
> guns" who I can work routinely in CW. The information I can exchange with
> these stations is quite limited by the licence conditions; information 
> about
> the station and some pleasant personal chatter. With other stations,
> communication is usually quite difficult, and exchange of information is
> usually limited to callsigns and signal reports. These kind of marginal 
> QSOs
> are usually regarded as more "valuable" in amateur circles, although the
> information exchanged may amount to less than 10 alphanumeric characters
> each way. It isn't really the amount of information, but the fact you
> actually managed to transmit it. On the other hand, WSPR allows a similar 
> or
> greater amount of information (callsign, location, power output for
> comparison with received signal level) to be transmitted routinely at 
> signal
> levels where even marginal CW just isn't feasible. The fact it can be

THIS OBSERVATION IS INCORRECT. ALL WSPR SIGNALS ARE OBSERVED AS A TRACE LONG 
BEFORE THEY DECODE THEREFORE  IF QRS3 MODE WAS USED THE INFORMATION WOULD BE 
READABLE. I HAVE NEVER DECODED A WSPR SIGNAL THAT WAS NOT VISIBLE ON THE 
WATERFALL. IT ALSO TAKES 2 MINUTES TO GET ANY INFO IF YOU ARE LUCKY.

> automatically monitored over extended periods, and the information
> immediately shared via a publicly-accessible database adds a whole series 
> of
> other possibilities too.
>
> Since the start of 500kHz, I have received one or two listener reports for
> CW signals from stations not already on this reflector. On the other hand, 
> I
> have received reports from over 80 different stations in about 18 
> countries
> for the WSPR beacon, most not otherwise part of the 500kHz scene. This
THIS INFO IS ALSO INCORRECT
QRSS CW WOULD HAVE BEEN SEEN AND READ LONG BEFORE WSPR WOULD DECODE IN POOR 
OR MARGINAL CONDITIONS
I OFTEN MAKE LONG HAUL DX CONTACTS ON CW AND QRS3 WHEN WSPR IS NOT DECODING.

> includes stations too far away to receive CW, those who do not have good
> receiving conditions, or those who are just not morse operators. So I 
> think
> it encourages far more people than it discourages.
>
> Cheers, Jim moritz
> 73 de M0BMU

PLEASE BE FACTUAL ABOUT WHAT IS GOING ON.
I HAD TWO SOLID QSO'S RECENTLY TO DX LOCATIONS PLUS VARIOUS SWL REPORTS FROM 
OTHERS BEYOND EU
IN THE PAST MY CW HAS BEEN COPIED BY NC1K AND OTHERS AROUND THE EAST COAST 
USA.

G3KEV

>
>


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Hi Nicolas and the LF group=20
Thank you for the image of contol I now test with a little more power=
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 I'll try to go one floor we auuron sl'automne and winter can test a=
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already very good with Markus ..=20
For info this weekend Marcin operant HF70W .. will be active on 137 kH=
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Good evening everyone=20
F8boj Claude JN16WA
  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Hello Claude,you should make tries beacon in QRSS60 at night, with=
 your good signal americans listeners should receive you i think.

  Cheers my friends.
  F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP

  RX : Icom IC7400
  Ant: Wellbrook LFL 1010
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oops, one word was missing...

Generally the CW part seems a bit louder than the voice peaks.

73, Markus

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On 17 Sep 2009 at 18:54, John P-G wrote:

> I guess the only benefit one would gain is if there was a strong signal
> within the receiver's SSB passband, but outside the WSPR 200Hz region,
> that was upsetting the receiver's AGC.

Like G4JNT for instance - way over s9 here and totally flattens the 
AGC.

73 Dave G3YMC

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Gus wrote:
> Dear LF,
> 
> this evening i test an SSB Beacon, QRG 508 kHz LSB.
> Reports are welcome.

Nice signal Gus, in Shetland

RS 55

Will send MP3 direct

Cheers,

John
GM4SLV

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IP90gg


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Dear Willem

Thanks for the new contact.  Just upgraded from "wet String" to "short
wire".   Proper aerial is next!!

With best regards
 
 
Jim
 
 
Dr. James Cowburn G7NKS
E james.cowburn@virgin.net
 
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1634 -28  4.9   0.503910 -2 G7NKS IO92 10
1646 -30  5.8   0.503914  0 G7NKS IO92 23
1834  -2  5.1   0.503920  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
1838  -7  5.3   0.503920  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
1846   7  5.4   0.503921  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
73s willem pa3ego




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Mal,

>
> I am not from Yorkshire and therefore the Yorkshire accent is non 
> applicable.
>

Sorry - I thought Scarborough was in Yorkshire - I will have to look up 
Google Maps.

Or perhaps you mean you are a blow in (not born there, but moved there..).

>
> We have strayed away from LF/MF time to get back on track What is WSPR 
> doing for AUSTRALIA?
>

I like to learn.  I believe I will have something to learn everyday until I 
die.   At least that is my fervent wish (to learn, not to die...).

I played with WSPR for a couple of months and it taught me a lot about 
propagation.    With normal ham operation you don't get the 24/7 band 
opening watch as you do with WSPR.

WSPR is not for everyone - especially if you are after the awards.    I am a 
self-confessed non-award chaser.

For those who, like myself, are still fascinated by the sheer magic of radio 
even after 40 years, WSPR allows a fascinating (granted non-perfect) view of 
radio propagation.

Here in Australia (I speak for the period when I was using it), it kindled a 
lot of interest and discussion amongst those of us who like talking about 
radio to like-minded individuals.   I can only say it has been a positive 
influence.

These days the newest interest in VK for a lot of us is our newly acquired 
access to the 136kHz.

Despite being old hat for some over there, here it has sparked a rush to the 
soldering irons and delving into raising the bar regarding frequency 
accuracy and stability.

Spare a though for us in VK, just when we have arrived at the 136kHz trough, 
the rest of the world is heading off for the 500kHz feeding station 
(including our leaders in things LF/MF over here, the Kiwis...)

73   Steve Olney - VK2XV

http://www.djirra.com



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Right  .. thanks Andy ... that makes sense ...  looking at  rms power=
 in a bandwidth and not the spot noise power at one frequency (+/- spe=
c bw) ?

why the  100 hz , as the  wspr  window is 200 hz wide , is the  softwa=
re looking +/-  50  from the  decode frequency ?

To make use of the  level in terms of the  path suitability  for say=
 a data transmission ... is there a quick way  of working backwards ,=
 if you
know the  minimum s/n that the  mode will handle, using the  reported=
 wspr  result ?=20

Tnx- G .. =20


From: Andy Talbot=20
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 9:50 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Subject: Re: LF: s/n shown by wspr .... what is it actually showing ?


Its normalised to 2500Hz banbdwidth - approximately an SSB filter's wo=
rth.

So +20dB in 100Hz   =3D   -3dB in 2500Hz.  =20

Andy
www.g4jnt.com


=20
On 23/09/2009, Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:=20
  Just watched Dave's G3YXM  wspr  signal on spec-lab ,=20

  Spec-lab showed the  signal to  be a constant  20 dB over the back=
 ground noise floor  of the  rx=20
  so in my  book that's 20 dB  s/n  =20

  The  wspr  decode is  showing -3 dB s/n ?

  What is it  actually  displaying ?

  G ..=20






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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Right&nbsp; .. thanks Andy ... that=
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...&nbsp; looking at&nbsp; rms power in a bandwidth and not the spot=
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at one frequency (+/- spec bw)&nbsp;?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>why the&nbsp; 100 hz , as the&nbsp;=
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window is 200 hz wide , is the&nbsp; software looking +/-&nbsp; 50&nbs=
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the&nbsp; decode frequency ?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>To make use of the&nbsp; level in ter=
ms of=20
the&nbsp; path suitability&nbsp; for say a data transmission ... is th=
ere a=20
quick way&nbsp; of working backwards , if you</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>know the&nbsp; minimum s/n that the&n=
bsp; mode will=20
handle, using&nbsp;the&nbsp; reported wspr&nbsp; result ? </FONT></DIV=
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<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Tnx- G .. </FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma">
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A   title=3D"mailto:and=
y.g4jnt@googlemail.com&#10;CTRL + Click to follow link"   href=3D"mail=
to:andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com">Andy Talbot</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, September 23, 2009 9:50 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A   title=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org&#10;=
CTRL + Click to follow link"   href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep=
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: s/n shown by wspr .... what is it actuall=
y showing=20
?</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Its normalised to 2500Hz banbdwidth - approximately an SSB filter=
's=20
worth.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>So +20dB in 100Hz&nbsp;&nbsp; =3D&nbsp; &nbsp;-3dB in 2500Hz.&nbs=
p;&nbsp;=20
</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Andy</DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=3Dgmail_quote>On 23/09/2009, <B class=3Dgmail_sendern=
ame>Graham</B>=20
&lt;<A href=3D"mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk">g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk=
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  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Just watched Dave's G3YXM &nbsp;wsp=
r&nbsp; signal=20
  on spec-lab , </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Spec-lab showed the&nbsp; signal to=
&nbsp; be a=20
  constant&nbsp; 20 dB over the back ground noise floor&nbsp; of the&n=
bsp; rx=20
  </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>so in my&nbsp; book that's 20 dB&nb=
sp;=20
  s/n&nbsp;&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>The&nbsp; wspr&nbsp; decode is&nbsp=
; showing -3=20
  dB s/n ?</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>What is it&nbsp; actually&nbsp; dis=
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  ?</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>G .. </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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JIM YOU HAVE A MORE SERIOUS PROBLEM
FACTS AND FICTION MIXED UP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
----- Original Message ----- 
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> Dear Mal, LF Group,
>
> Please check your keyboard - the shift key seems to be stuck!
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
>
>> THIS OBSERVATION IS INCORRECT. etc. etc. etc....
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Is this supposed to be Exciting, in my opinion machine generated repeative 
data, with no real time exchange of information.
If this is forward thinking technology watch the band fold, this is not 
Amateur Radio
G3KEV

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> 1454  -9  1.0   0.137000  0 M0BMU IO91 23
> 1500  -9  2.3   0.137000  0 M0BMU IO91 23
> 1508  -9  0.9   0.137000  0 M0BMU IO91 23
> 1514  -9  0.9   0.137000  0 M0BMU IO91 23
> 1522  -9  0.9   0.137000  0 M0BMU IO91 23
> 1526  -8  1.0   0.137000  0 M0BMU IO91 23
> 1532  -9  0.9   0.137000  0 M0BMU IO91 23
> 1536  -9  0.8   0.137000  0 M0BMU IO91 23
> 1544 -10  1.2   0.137000  0 M0BMU IO91 23
> 1550 -10  0.9   0.137000  0 M0BMU IO91 23
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> 73
>
> Victor
> PA3FNY
>
> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens James Moritz
> Verzonden: zondag 20 september 2009 15:17
> Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Onderwerp: LF: Re: WSPR 137.0k
>
>
> Dear LF Group,
>
> The M0BMU WSPR beacon is now running on 135.5kHz "dial frequency", 
> 137.0kHz
> RF out. Note change of frequency to try to avoid DCF39/HGA22 sidebands,
> which some stations experience problems with. Any reports over the next 
> few
> hours would be very welcome.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
>
>


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Roger Lapthorn wrote:
> It is currently on around 503.890kHz. Just set your RX to 502.4kHz in 
> USB mode with the WSPR software and it will find me if at a readable 
> level.
>
> 73s
> Roger G3XBM
>
> 2009/9/17 Chris <c.ashby435@btinternet.com 
> <mailto:c.ashby435@btinternet.com>>
>
>     Hi Roger,
>     Please remind us which frequency exactly it is on.
>     Thanks and 73,
>     Chris, G4AYT.
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> -------------------------------------------------------------
> http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/
> http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
> G3XBM    GQRP 1678      ISWL G11088
Will leave my Rx on all night, now connected the FT2000 to the welbrook loop
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WSPR report of Gus's signal this evening.

Also looking for G3XBM, but static levels re very high tonight.

2255  -6  0.6   0.503526  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30

73m Dave G3WCB IO91RM n Windsor S.E. England

-


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Jom,

Some more decodes, although the finer points escape me as yet:-

2009-09-08 23:23:12 >WOLF10  -r 8000 -f 800 -t 1.0 -w 0.0000
t:  24 f: 0.624 a:-1.3 dp: 96.4 ci:10 cj: 20 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t:  48 f: 0.621 a:-1.1 dp: 94.7 ci:10 cj: 20 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t:  96 f: 0.619 a:-1.0 dp: 98.6 ci:10 cj: 20 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t: 192 f: 0.625 pm:511.7 jm:920 q:  1.0  1.1 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t: 288 f: 0.625 pm: 3025 jm:920 q:  8.8  8.7 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t: 384 f: 0.625 pm: 5062 jm:920 q: 15.4 15.5 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t: 480 f: 0.625 pm: 5470 jm:920 q: 18.5 18.6 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t: 576 f: 0.625 pm: 7789 jm:920 q: 19.1 19.4 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t: 672 f: 0.625 pm:10270 jm:920 q: 19.0 19.3 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t: 768 f: 0.625 pm:10771 jm:920 q: 18.2 18.6 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t: 864 f: 0.625 pm:14317 jm:920 q: 17.9 18.3 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -

Cheers,

John
GM4SLV
IP90gg


F4DTL@aol.com wrote:
> Hello Jim,strong here
>  
>  
> 2009-09-08 23:15:42 >WOLF10  -r 11073.608 -f 796 -t 10 -d 25 -w  0.0000
> t:  24 f: 1.597 a:-0.2 dp:126.6 ci: 8 cj:166 M0BMU IO91VR  2W -
> t:  48 f: 1.593 a: 0.1 dp:128.9 ci:10 cj:166 M0BMU IO91VR 2W  -
> t:  96 f: 1.600 a:-1.1 dp:127.2 ci:13 cj:166 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
> t:  192 f: 1.602 pm:12592 jm:630 q: -1.8 -1.3 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
> t: 288 f: 1.602  pm:12650 jm:630 q: -1.4 -1.3 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
> t: 384 f: 1.602 pm:12695  jm:630 q: -1.5 -2.1 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
> t: 480 f: 1.602 pm:12718 jm:630 q: -2.2  -4.1 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
> 
> 
> 
> F4DTL  Nicolas JN18FP
> RX : Icom IC7400
> Ant: Miniwhip active  antenna
> 
> _http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/_ (http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/) 
> 


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Thanks Lubos for the capture!
--=20
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
                WE2XEB/2
                WE2XGR/1


2009/9/8 Lubos OK2BVG <bvgbob@hotmail.com>:
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> Last night was quaiet and the propagation on 137kHz was very good here.=
 I
> saw "XGJ" three times.
> 73!
>
> Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS
>
> ________________________________
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Peter Cleall wrote:
> a more fundamental question. at the bottom of the WSPR screen a red
> box has Rx Noise then a -dB number. What order of dBs do you normally
> see in here.
> 
> regards peter
> 
> 

Peter,

I believe you are supposed to adjust the sound level (via external means 
or using the Windows mixer) to set that reading to ~0dB for optimum 
decoding. Others may have more info...

John
GM4SLV

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Hi Lubos,

Thanks my report from you.

Gary - G4WGT.


2009/9/19 Lubos OK2BVG <bvgbob@hotmail.com>:
> Hello Gus, Gary, LF!
> I am back from my vacation and QRV on 600m:
>
> 1850=A0 -9=A0 0.8=A0=A0 1.503925=A0 0 SM6BHZ JO57 33
> 1858 -23=A0 1.2=A0=A0 1.503911=A0 0 G4WGT IO83 27
>
> Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS
>
>
> ________________________________
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Hello Clemens!
My WSPR v.1.12 doesn´t work below 1MHz (= dial frq). It is the reason, why I use dial frequency 1.502500. Is there any "trick", how to set 0.502500?

Thanks in advance!

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

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Subject: LF: Re: WSPR










Lubos,
 
>1.503925  
 
you may want to check your indicated 
frequency.
 
73
Clemens
DL4RAJ

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Hello LF!

2240  -5  1.1   
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2240 -25  0.4   
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2244 -24  0.9   
  1.503911  0 G4WGT IO83 27

Lubos, OK2BVG


  
  Přetáhněte si fotografie přímo do chatu v Messenger. Jak se do dělá. Klikni zde! 
  
  


  

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Hello Clemens!<br>My WSPR v.1.12 doesn´t work below 1MHz (= dial frq). It is the reason, why I use dial frequency 1.502500. Is there any "trick", how to set 0.502500?<br><br>Thanks in advance!<br><br>Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS<br><br><hr id="stopSpelling">From: cpaul@gmx.net<br>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<br>Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 11:13:42 +0200<br>Subject: LF: Re: WSPR<br><br>




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<div><font face="Arial">Lubos,</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial"></font>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font face="Arial">&gt;1.503925&nbsp; </font></div>
<div><font face="Arial"></font>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font face="Arial">you may want to check your indicated 
frequency.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial"></font>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font face="Arial">73<br>Clemens<br>DL4RAJ</font></div>
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  <div style="background: rgb(228, 228, 228) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial; font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; -x-system-font: none;"><b>From:</b> 
  <a title="bvgbob@hotmail.com" href="mailto:bvgbob@hotmail.com">Lubos OK2BVG</a> 
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  <div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; -x-system-font: none;"><b>To:</b> <a title="rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" href="mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a> 
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  <div><br></div>Hello LF!<br><br>2240&nbsp; -5&nbsp; 1.1&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  1.503925&nbsp; 0 SM6BHZ JO57 33<br>2240 -25&nbsp; 0.4&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  1.503950&nbsp; 0 M0LMH IO93 20<br>2244 -24&nbsp; 0.9&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  1.503911&nbsp; 0 G4WGT IO83 27<br><br>Lubos, OK2BVG<br><br>
  <hr>
  Přetáhněte si fotografie přímo do chatu v Messenger. Jak se do dělá. <a href="http://download.live.com/messenger">Klikni zde!</a> 
  
  <BR><hr>

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17:50:00<br></blockquote>                      <br /><hr />Přetáhněte si fotografie přímo do chatu v Messenger. Jak se do dělá. <a href='http://download.live.com/messenger' target='_new'>Klikni zde!</a></body>
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Hello Gus, LF!
I am reading your FB signal in JN88KS:

1846 -19  1.2   1.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
1852 -16  1.3   1.503926  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
1858 -18  1.2   1.503926  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
1902  -7  1.2   1.503926  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30

Lubos, OK2BVG

_________________________________________________________________
Ve slu=BEb=EC Windows Live m=F9=BEete uspo=F8=E1dat, upravit a sd=EDlet sv=
=E9 fotografie.
http://www.microsoft.com/cze/windows/windowslive/products/photo-gallery-ed=
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Hello Gus, LF!<br>I am reading your FB signal in JN88KS:<br><br>1846 -19&n=
bsp; 1.2&nbsp;&nbsp; 1.503925&nbsp; 0 SM6BHZ JO57 40<br>1852 -16&nbsp; 1.3=
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John, if YOU manage to hear me then I really will believe pigs can fly.

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>>
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> I'll be watching from the far north!
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John, if YOU manage to hear me then I really will believe pigs can fly.<br=
><br>73s<br>Roger<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/9/13 John P-G <sp=
an dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk">gm4slv=
@sighthound.demon.co.uk</a>&gt;</span><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204,=
 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Roger Lapthorn=
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<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204,=
 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Good folks, Any WSPR spot reports would fill me with total amazement<br>
and delight.<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
<br>
I&#39;ll be watching from the far north!<br>
<br>
John<br>
GM4SLV<br>
<br>
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Just watched Dave's G3YXM  wspr  signal on spec-lab ,=20

Spec-lab showed the  signal to  be a constant  20 dB over the back gro=
und noise floor  of the  rx=20
so in my  book that's 20 dB  s/n  =20

The  wspr  decode is  showing -3 dB s/n ?

What is it  actually  displaying ?

G ..=20


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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Just watched Dave's G3YXM &nbsp;wspr&=
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on spec-lab , </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Spec-lab showed the&nbsp; signal to&n=
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constant&nbsp; 20 dB over the back ground noise floor&nbsp; of the&nbs=
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Hello LF'ers ,

I copy on 137,778 unidentified signal ?
22:00 => 23:00 utc ( see on picture )

73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

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Dear Piotr, LF Group,

In the UK we have access to 501 - 504kHz, with up to 10W ERP.

Individual stations must apply to Ofcom (the UK regulator) for a Notice of 
Variation to their licence - see 
http://www.rsgb.org/spectrumforum/mf/srp501.php

Good luck with your application, hope to see you on 500k -

Cheers, Jim Moritz
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All WSPR signals last evening struggling in QRN/QRS whereas they were=
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decode was marginal, and then the same old repetive rubbish.
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Hi  Roman ,
Tnx , good conditions !
73 Jean-Pierre f1afj

Roman RW3ADB a =C3=A9crit :
> Hello Jean-Pierre & LF!
> It was an UA4WPF beacon.He was visible very good during the last night=
=20
> into my grabber in Moscow.
> http://rw3adb.narod.ru/2009/5sep2009_UA4WPF/137.07W_90_00009.jpg
> http://rw3adb.narod.ru/2009/5sep2009_UA4WPF/137.07W_120_00002.jpg
> Was traced onto your grabber and DF6NM too.
>
> * "\"Jean-Pierre M=C3=A9r=C3=A9 (F1AFJ)\"" <jpm.f1afj@online.fr> [Sun,=
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> 2009 13:59:27 +0200]:
>> Ok Andrey , Tnx for info
>>
>> 73 Jean-Pierre
>>
>> Andrey rn3agc a =C3=A9crit :
>> > Hi Jean-Pierre,
>> > It, probably, was beacon UA4WPF.
>> >
>> > 73
>> > Andrey
>> >
>> >
>> >> Hello LF ,
>> >>
>> >> My antenna was in directection of the USA , I raised of the traces=
=20
> on
>> >> 137777. 2 , I suppose that it is ACG in beaconning !
>> >>
>> >> 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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Hi LF,
Capture UA4WPF,
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Jim,

Re the  size of error

With the  delta-4 card, the  tx frame could be observed to  be  some  2 or 
more seconds short of the  expected time  window

1 % ~  1.2 seconds , 2 %  ~ 2.4  seconds, assumedly indicating the clock on 
the  card runs fast, but as to the  influence of the system by the 
software, dma, irq etc  Im not  sure, one problem is I expect is the 
soundcards are not  designed to be the  interface for  a accurate  frequency 
meter / generator and as such compromises 'must' exist ...

The only  comparison I can think of is the running of a movie at  shot at 
24 fps  for projection , on a tele cinie system at  25 fps to  sync with the 
uk 50 hz frame rate  , giving a lift in the sound  pitch of + ~ 4 % ? , I 
know that this dose generate  irate phone  calls from musicians pointing out 
that orchestras appear to  be   'sharp' but not many  hi .. so its possible 
a tolerance of  2 %  may be accepted

G .

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From: "James Moritz" <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 1:33 PM
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Subject: LF: Re: WOLF/WSPR Sound card issues

>
> Dear Dave,
>
> AC 97
> (http://download.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/sb/ac97_r23.pdf )
> specifies 48kHz as the basic, obligatory sample rate for compliant sound
> cards, so yours should certainly be able to do it - to find more info, you
> could try looking for the audio codec chip on the motherboard - usually a
> very tiny square 48pin thing near the audio connectors, and searching 
> using
> its type number. But I guess what sample rate is actually used will depend
> on software, drivers and so forth - perhaps someone with experience of PC
> sound card programming could advise. Looking at the audio settings in the
> Windows control panel may well tell you what sample rates are possible.
> Also, some software allows you to select different sample rates, for
> instance Spectrum Lab, but not Argo as far as I know.
>
> The errors you are getting in the measured frequency seem to be enormous - 
> 2
> or 3%, which would certainly give rise to problems.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dave Sergeant" <dave@davesergeant.com>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 11:59 AM
> Subject: LF: WOLF/WSPR Sound card issues
>
>
> It seems that both WOLF and WSPR are
>> designed for current sound cards which have 48,000 and 96,000 clock
>> rates. Mine is obviously from the old stable so has 44,100 etc rates.
>>
>> For information it is the sound card interface built into the
>> motherboard, an ASR Rock K7S41GX dating from 2003 with generic AC'97
>> sound. Zilch more given about its spec in the manual.
>>
>
>
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Hi Marcin, Andrey,

nice signal from HF70W also here in Nuernberg tonight.

Andrey: Donebach 153 kHz seemed perfectly clean from here, so it's probably "Luxembourg" intermodulation onto the DCF39 carrier 
which is causing trouble again.

Best wishes,
Markus (DF6NM)

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Andrey rn3agc" <rn3agc@mail.ru>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 10:17 PM
Subject: LF: Re: HF70W_QSO


Hello Lubos, Marcin,
I saw traces from signals. But here the strongest
QRM from broadcasting station to 21z (153 khz).

73 Andrey


>
> Hello MArcin, LF!
> Thanks for very nice QSO, I am pleased. Your signal was fine - see the picture.
>
> 73!
>
> Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS
> 

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Hello LF,
Capture BOJ
Henny pa3cpm
73s
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At 10:59 AM 9/11/2009, Jay wrote:
>WE2XGR/2 will transmit in WOLF mode tonight from 2230 - 0330Z on 
>508.5 kHz. Local sunset is 2300Z. Reports are always appreciated.

Jay, this is incredible!  I started recording at 2235z - and ran for 
30 minutes before transferring the file to my desktop for 
decoding.  During the entire 30 minute period there was absolutely no 
audible sign of your signal.  I thought it would be futile, but lo - 
perfect copy in short order.  I'll record while you and John are on 
together later, and post the file on my website if anyone wants to 
listen.  The Rx was tuned to 508.6 Khz in CW-narrow mode (500 Hz) so 
both you and John will be present in the passband simultaneously. 
Here's the decode starting 2235z, using -r 8200.390 -f 699.988 -t 0.2 :

WOLF version 0.51
t:  24 f:-0.129 a: 0.6 dp: 90.7 ci:10 cj:142 XUPGQA47HVT413* ?
t:  48 f:-0.132 a: 1.0 dp: 87.4 ci:14 cj:119 /FY6TV8MZMSN72L ?
t:  96 f: 0.160 a: 1.4 dp: 85.3 ci: 8 cj:352 0KTA/L0667ZD3B2 ?
t: 192 f: 0.029 pm:  28 jm: 35               FFVB8PT5*QFO51  ?
t: 288 f: 0.000 pm:  40 jm: 16               U5Q.J*NR2.7BP H ?
t: 384 f: 0.000 pm:  71 jm: 16               ???O/Q*ED???5UN ?
t: 480 f: 0.000 pm:  74 jm: 16               WE2XGR/2 FN31IS -
t: 576 f: 0.000 pm:  90 jm: 16               WE2XGR/2 FN31IS -
t: 672 f: 0.000 pm: 102 jm: 16               WE2XGR/2 FN31IS -
t: 768 f: 0.000 pm: 168 jm: 16               WE2XGR/2 FN31IS -
t: 864 f: 0.000 pm: 216 jm: 16               WE2XGR/2 FN31IS -
t: 960 f: 0.000 pm: 235 jm: 16               WE2XGR/2 FN31IS -
t:1056 f: 0.000 pm: 240 jm: 16               WE2XGR/2 FN31IS -
t:1152 f: 0.000 pm: 344 jm: 16               WE2XGR/2 FN31IS -
t:1248 f: 0.000 pm: 496 jm: 16               WE2XGR/2 FN31IS -

Nice going!
73,
Bill VE2IQ



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Im not sure whether Gus will be on WSPR on MF tonight  as he indicated hes=
 doing some complicated antennae repairs - but in any case Ill run on 502.=
4 WSPR - there will be two instances/callsigns decoding - BY3A is the R75=
 and BY3X is the SDR IQ and a more powerful Dell (both callsigns relate to=
 location, Teda Tianjin -  and not a ham call as Im a SWL here) .

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Ive been playing today and may (may) have some processing/buffer issues wi=
th the Dell 610 versus the 630 when multitasking.

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No decodes from Jay XGR/3 or John overnight in Alaska but I have some work=
 to do on the antennae and moreover decoupling noise on LF/MF up there whe=
n Im there in Christmas.

=20

I wont be on 137 tonight. I need more gear!

=20

Ill be permanently QRT here in Teda Tianjin China at the end of Oct :-( =
 actually its :-)

=20

Ive opened a "book" of where we will end up next.=20

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Laurence WE2XPQ  KL1X in BY3A

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Im not sure whether Gus will be on WSPR on MF tonight&nbsp; as he indicate=
d hes doing some complicated antennae repairs - but in any case Ill run on=
 502.4 WSPR - there will be two instances/callsigns decoding - BY3A is the=
 R75 and BY3X is the SDR IQ and a more powerful Dell (both callsigns relat=
e to location, Teda Tianjin - &nbsp;and not a ham call as Im a SWL here)&n=
bsp;.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Ive been playing today and may (may) have some processing/buffer issues wi=
th the Dell 610 versus the 630 when multitasking.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
No decodes from Jay XGR/3 or John overnight in Alaska but I have some work=
 to do on the antennae and moreover decoupling noise on LF/MF up there whe=
n Im there in Christmas.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
I wont be on 137 tonight. I need more gear!<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Ill be permanently QRT here in Teda Tianjin China&nbsp;at the end of Oct=
 :-(&nbsp; actually its :-)<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Ive opened a "book" of where we will end up next. <BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
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 hi Jim,

have not put your spots on the database as am
seeing 3 signals from you in somerset


1346  -8 -1.6   0.136909  0 M0BMU IO91 23
1346 -24 -1.6   0.137009  0 M0BMU IO91 23
1346 -26 -1.6   0.137042  0 M0BMU IO91 23

1352  -7 -1.7   0.136910  0 M0BMU IO91 23
1352 -23 -1.6   0.137010  0 M0BMU IO91 23
1352 -23 -1.6   0.137042  0 M0BMU IO91 23

1400  -7 -1.0   0.136911  0 M0BMU IO91 23
1400 -22 -0.9   0.137011  0 M0BMU IO91 23
1400 -23 -1.0   0.137043  0 M0BMU IO91 23

I have never listened to WSPR on 135kHz and i have a noise source present in the band.
but do not have problems like this with WSPR on any other frequency.

regards
peter G8AFN


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===========================================

Dear LF Group,

The M0BMU WSPR beacon is now running on 135.5kHz "dial frequency", 137.0kHz 
RF out. Note change of frequency to try to avoid DCF39/HGA22 sidebands, 
which some stations experience problems with. Any reports over the next few 
hours would be very welcome.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU 




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Thanks Henny and Jean-Pierre for the captures and 'grabber'!
--=20
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
                WE2XEB/2
                WE2XGR/1


On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 4:55 AM, "Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9
(F1AFJ)"<jpm.f1afj@online.fr> wrote:
> Hi , Henny , Lubos , Warren ,
>
> Yes very good copy of "XGJ" last night !! ( see capture )
>
> 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj
>
> henny van elst a =E9crit :
>>
>> Hi Warren,LF
>> capture XGJ
>> Henny pa3cpm
>> best 73s
>>
>



--=20
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
                WE2XEB/2
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Congratulations Roger!
Are the same with my condition! =)
7.5m high steel mast and ~20m 1/4 sloper for 80m band from 7.5m to 1.5m 
over the roof of high-scraper 17 floors.
70m cable RG6U to my room and FT897D w/o any presel and LNA.

Looking my reports qrss.nm.ru ->500
I'm copied G/GM stations on 500 some time. QRB ~2600 km's

Roman

* Roger Lapthorn <rogerlapthorn@gmail.com> [Sun, 13 Sep 2009 21:28:58 
+0100]:
> If you could SEE my TX,  "antenna" and ATU you would realise how 
amazed
> I am
> at this report from G3XVL. My antenna is literally 15m of low 
horizontal
> wire with about 2m of it vertical, a central heating ground and an ATU
> on
> the bedroom table made from a ferrite rod and fed with 700mW from a
> 2N3906/2N3904. This proves that 500kHz is possible with a
> *really*minimalist station. I can only imagine what will be possible
> with some
> effort on my part.
>
> Today has been one of the most enjoyable since I got my licence in 
1967.
> Thanks to everyone on this list for encouraging me.
>
> 73s
> Roger G3XBM
>
> 2009/9/13 Chris McCarthy <chris.decibel@googlemail.com>
>
> > Roger,
> > I can beat that your reception report from Ipswich, Suffolk
> >
> >   2009-09-13 20:12   G3XBM   0.503922   -27   1   JO02dg   0.001
> G3XVL
> >  JO02nb   61   112 well done,
> > Chris G3XVL
> >
> >
> >
> > 2009/9/13 Roger Lapthorn <rogerlapthorn@gmail.com>
> >
> > All of 3kms away (whoa DX!!) but I just got my first WSPR report on
> 500kHz:
> >>
> >>    2009-09-13 20:04   G3XBM   0.503908   -6   0   JO02dg   0.001
> G6ALB
> >>  JO02dg   0   0   2009-09-13 20:02   G3XBM   0.503910   -12   -1
> >>  JO02dg   0.001   G6ALB   JO02dg   0   0
> >> At least the signal is getting across the fields at the back of the
> house.
> >> Andrew G6ALB is in the next village. You can see by my report that 
I
> have a
> >> LOT of work to do....
> >>
> >> 73s
> >> Roger G3XBM
> >> --
> >> -------------------------------------------------------------
> >> http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/
> >> http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
> >> G3XBM    GQRP 1678      ISWL G11088
> >>
> >
> >
>
>



--
Roman RW3ADB.


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* Roman RW3ADB <rw3adb@rambler.ru> [Mon, 07 Sep 2009 01:23:43 +0400]:
> I rx your signal, Jim!
> http://rw3adb.narod.ru/2009/7sep2009_503.5kHz/MBU.jpg
> Dial freq is incorrect, but the prog is decoded.

corrected dial freq:
http://rw3adb.narod.ru/2009/7sep2009_503.5kHz/MBU1.jpg


> Roman
>
> * James Moritz <james.moritz@btopenworld.com> [Sun, 6 Sep 2009 
21:05:12
> +0100]:
> > Dear LF Group,
> >
> > The M0BMU WSPR beacon is running again - I have jacked up the 
antenna
> to
> > increase the ERP a bit. G4WGT and G7NKS are also active - any 
reports
> > would
> > be very welcome.
> >
> > Cheers, Jim Moritz
> > 73 de M0BMU
> >
> >
>
>
>
>



--
Roman RW3ADB.


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Hello andrey
Many thank for the reporte I have one probleme for the qrss120...now sended 
in qrss60 is very wel with the propagation....
I started transmission too early this evening then to 22h UT is good my 
qrss60 signals are readable now (youthful hi)
Thank you for the contol manqueari I do not return in the evening ..
pleasure
Claude F8boj.
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From: "Andrey rn3agc" <rn3agc@mail.ru>
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> Hi Claude,
> Magnificent signal!
> My locator KO85sv.
> Argo in modes 3s and 90s
>
> 73
> Andrey 




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LF, Dave,

John Hey, G3TDZ, has produced a prototype of a new version of the cave rad=
io which is named after him, and looking for recommendations for CAD softw=
are for PCB layout.=20

He doesn't need anything fancy - most packages he has looked at do much mo=
re than he wants and are too complicated.

The software must be cheap (ideally free or shareware) and the file format=
s must not be tied to a particular PCB manufacturer.

For details of the design see his article "A Prototype Cave Radio to Avoid=
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Any suggestions, please?

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Details from the  web page  :-

Location : IO90IV
Carrier frequency : 503.700 KHz
100W RF Out (peak / carrier)
7m high Tee antenna with 14m top span.
Gain estimate -27dB - based on Rrad / Rload measurements


>>>>ERP 23dBm.<<<<<

73 - Graham

No idea ... but  may  be  right  hihi
uk500khz group page  using google  translate

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>
> Hi Gary, LF!
> TNX!
> Hope to look that signal now.
> How many EIRP?
>
> Roman
>
>
> * Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk> [Tue, 15 Sep 2009 10:22:58 +0100]:
>> Hi Roman, LF,
>>
>> The signal on 503.700 kHz you can see on my grabber is the propagation
>> beacon being run by Andy G4JNT, transmissions are at15 minute
>> intervals at 0004, 0019, 0034 & 0049 minutes of each hour. The beacon
>> now runs 24/7.
>>
>> It has a similar function & features to the beacons running on the
>> 5MHz band (GB3RAL, GB3WES & GB3ORK).
>>
>> For a full description of the beacon on 503.700 kHz please have a look
>> at the UK500KHZ group web site at :-
>>
>>
> http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/multi-function-beacon-by-andy-g4jnt
>>
>> Regards es 73
>>
>> Gary - G4WGT.
>>
>>
>>
>> 2009/9/15 Roman RW3ADB <rw3adb@rambler.ru>:
>> >
>> > Hi Gary, LF!
>> >
>> > Tell me pse, what is a signal I can see some time into G4WGT
> grabber?
>> >
>> > --
>> > Roman RW3ADB.
>> >
>>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Roman RW3ADB.
>
>



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Hello MArcin, LF!
Thanks for very nice QSO, I am pleased. Your signal was fine - see the picture.

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Gus,

> yes it seams like it is good conds this evening.

Very good, with lots of hits starting at 2330 UTC.

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* Laurence BY3A-KL1X China <hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com> [Fri, 18 Sep 
2009 13:43:19 -0800]:
>
> Good early morning - Who is M on this freq out to my West? As it gets
> daylight a Loran line will appear close to this freq and is just (just
> visible)

UA4WPF I think. W is OOO readable.
777.2 his freq as usual.

>
>
> DCF39 is S7 this mng :-))

wow.
I copy S6 as usual some time up to +10

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=20

The window to Eu is still very small but Gus signal peaked (moreover becam=
e visible) at around 2100z for about 15 mins.

=20

This is the time of the day when the sky is just showing signs of lighteni=
ng up a bit as we go towards dawn. Nothing from Jim but given the paths an=
d the timeline its still way too short given the mutual full darkness path=
. It still isnt.

=20

Gus's move to 925 helped a lot and it was easy to see the WSPR signature=
 using Argo.

=20

On WOLF

=20

snipped from another email

2009-09-10 21:15:29 >WOLF10  -r 8100.257 -f 1000 -t 1 -w 0.0000
t:  24 f:-0.339 etc..................

=20

For calibration of receiver/cards I commend John W1TAG's site - have a tro=
ll around and perhaps read.

=20

http://www.w1tag.com/WOLFSamp.htm

=20

Hes got some great stuff on his site.

=20

WOLF should be a much better "dig into the noise" protocol for paths like=
 mine which require a lot of aggregation and sampling to get a good decode=
. Time will tell. But you have to get your receiver and sound cal down to=
 nearly zero Hz offset for the best improvement. f:-0.339 (Hz) isnt bad -=
=20

=20

Your pc too has to work very hard and having multiple processes running ma=
y be stressing it to the point where buffers are being buffeted! Im runnin=
g WSPR, WOLF, ARGO, ARGO upload and Internet exp all at the same time and=
 Im not sure whether this is the best for large processing sessions. I ten=
d to look at the clock timing and if there is discrepancies between actual=
 and PC clock time over a short baseline Im probably doing too much (my si=
mple view)

=20

If your getting f: >1Hz decodes you need to do something - In fact if your=
 getting freq offsets  f: >0.5 +- Hz Id still do something to get your cal=
 better. When we come to longer paths and weaker more transitory openings=
 it will really pay, and not just for WOLF either.

=20

WOLF should (should) knock socks off WSPR at very very low signal levels=
 (>-30) but time will tell. It also requires a very stable receiver/phase=
 to work...a receiver that wanders just a few millihertz over the sampling=
 period will reduce the quality of the decode..  It may appear to be a lot=
 of work and over the short paths WSPR/CW et al is much more forgiving..

=20

With thanks for the signals - off to work time.

=20

Laurence KL 1X G4 DMA in Tianjin China.

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&nbsp;<BR>
The window to Eu is still very small but Gus signal peaked (moreover becam=
e visible) at around 2100z for about 15 mins.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
This is the time of the day when the sky is just showing signs of lighteni=
ng up a bit as we go towards dawn. Nothing from Jim but given the paths an=
d the timeline its still way too short given the&nbsp;mutual full&nbsp;dar=
kness path. It still isnt.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Gus's move to 925 helped a lot and it was easy to see the WSPR signature=
 using Argo.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
On WOLF<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
snipped from another email<BR>
2009-09-10 21:15:29 &gt;WOLF10&nbsp; -r 8100.257 -f 1000 -t 1 -w 0.0000<BR=
>t:&nbsp; 24 <FONT color=3D#ff0000><FONT color=3D#ff0000>f</FONT>:-0.339=
 etc..................</FONT><BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
For calibration of receiver/cards I commend John W1TAG's site - have a tro=
ll around and perhaps read.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
<A href=3D"http://www.w1tag.com/WOLFSamp.htm">http://www.w1tag.com/WOLFSam=
p.htm</A><BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Hes got some great stuff on his site.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
WOLF should be a much better "dig into the noise" protocol for paths like=
 mine which require a lot of aggregation and sampling to get a good decode=
. Time will tell. But you have to get your receiver and sound cal down to=
 nearly zero Hz offset for the best improvement. <FONT color=3D#ff0000><FO=
NT color=3D#ff0000>f</FONT>:-0.339 (Hz)&nbsp;isnt bad - </FONT><BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Your pc too has to work very hard and having multiple processes running ma=
y be stressing it to the point where buffers are being buffeted! Im runnin=
g WSPR, WOLF, ARGO, ARGO upload and Internet exp all at the same time and=
 Im not sure whether this is the best for large processing sessions. I ten=
d to look at the clock timing and if there is discrepancies between actual=
 and PC clock time over a short baseline Im probably doing too much (my si=
mple view)<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
If your getting f: &gt;1Hz decodes&nbsp;you need to do something - In fact=
 if your getting freq offsets&nbsp; f: &gt;0.5 +- Hz&nbsp;Id still do some=
thing to get your cal better. When we come to longer paths and weaker more=
 transitory openings it will really pay, and not just for WOLF either.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
WOLF should (should) knock socks off WSPR at very very low signal levels=
 (&gt;-30)&nbsp;but time will tell. It also requires a very stable receive=
r/phase to work...a receiver that wanders just a few millihertz over the=
 sampling period will reduce the quality of&nbsp;the decode..&nbsp; It may=
 appear to be a lot of work and over the short paths WSPR/CW et al is much=
 more forgiving..<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
With thanks for the signals - off to work time.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
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aural reception of EI0CF around midnight UTC (September 28th to 29th),
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capture last night

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Try running the real NTP server rather than Dimension 4?

http://www.meinberg.de/english/sw/ntp.htm

Runs as an XP service and it's "the real thing" rather than a clock 
tweaker like Dimension 4

J



Graham wrote:
> Nice signal Jim,
> 
> Just  found AGV  had removed dimension 4 from my pc .luckily not the one 
> that runs the  tx ..
> something on the  web site about a glitch in agv   fine hihi
> 
> G ..
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> From: "James Moritz" <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>
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>> Dear LF Group,
>>
>> The M0BMU WSPR beacon is running again tonight 0n 503.975kHz (502.4k "dial
>> frequency"). Any reports are very welcome. Also a very strong signal from
>> SM6BHZ tonight.
>>
>> Cheers, Jim Moritz
>> 73 de M0BMU
>>
>>
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> 
> 
> 
>> No virus found in this incoming message.
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Hi Lubos,

Thank you for the report.

73

Gary - G4WGT.

2009/9/19 Lubos OK2BVG <bvgbob@hotmail.com>:
> Hello LF!
>
> 2240=A0 -5=A0 1.1=A0=A0 1.503925=A0 0 SM6BHZ JO57 33
> 2240 -25=A0 0.4=A0=A0 1.503950=A0 0 M0LMH IO93 20
> 2244 -24=A0 0.9=A0=A0 1.503911=A0 0 G4WGT IO83 27
>
> Lubos, OK2BVG
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Graham wrote:
> JIm,
> 
> I think you  find that is  caused by 50 hz mains hum .... may be a hum 
> loop in the  audio system / pc-tx earthling , not likely to  be psu 
> problem as frequency is 50 (fund)  and 150 ( 3 rd harm)
> 
> I had a similar problem with my  valve HF set , that was a slight  
> ripple on the PA  HT line caused by the  100% duty cycle of wspr, not 
> part of the design criteria for  ssb/cw , caused  spots to appear +/-  
> 100  Hz due to the  full wave  rectification in the  psu
> 


Oddly though Jame's twin spots of Jim are 100Hz apart:

M0BMU    0.503944
M0BMU    0.503844

John


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Dear LF WhiSPeRers,



my WSPR?monitor?is still continuously online, and?ready to report possible activity?around 137.0 kHz.



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<div>Dear LF WhiSPeRers,</div>


<div>&nbsp;</div>


<div>my WSPR&nbsp;monitor&nbsp;is still continuously online, and&nbsp;ready to report possible activity&nbsp;around 137.0 kHz.</div>


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G4JNT also vy strong.
RX Antenna inv L 100 vert and 400 ft horizontal N/S
G3KEV

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  Strong signal from G7NKS on band at 1450=20
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Hi Chaps and Chappesses. The long haul conditions towards Eu, and for that=
 matter probably elsewhere are pretty good at the moment - DCF39 was pound=
ing in way over S9 last night here on the Eastern coastal region of China,=
 and s/n noise, in a box or otherwise, were getting better and it wasnt hu=
rting my ears any more. Always a good sign. Mid range NDB's at around 1500=
Kms on the otherhand were down a bit.

=20

If anyone wants to shove any mode up the spout on 137 or 500 my way Id be=
 delighted to turn the knobs as long as you send an email before lights ou=
t here at around 1330z.

=20

Its interesting to look at the 500 captures of Gus and see how short the=
 opening is at the moment - akin to the ol' gray/grey oblique iono tilts.=
 looking at the data the typical fades/peaks are around 1 minute, so longe=
r than I thought, but very deep, but I bet they change when the iono kicks=
 up. Slightly short a time for WOLF but Im betting it still overall a bett=
er mode for long (long) haul than results have shown so far with WSPR.

=20

Laurence, SWLing in  OM89UA Tanggu China.
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Hi Chaps and Chappesses. The long haul conditions towards Eu, and for that=
 matter probably elsewhere are pretty good at the moment - DCF39 was pound=
ing in way over S9 last night here on the Eastern coastal region of China,=
 and s/n noise, in a box or otherwise, were getting better and it wasnt hu=
rting my ears any more. Always a good sign. Mid range NDB's at around 1500=
Kms on the otherhand were down a bit.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
If anyone wants to shove any mode up the spout on 137 or 500 my way Id be=
 delighted to turn the knobs as long as you send an email before lights ou=
t here at around 1330z.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Its interesting to look at the 500 captures of Gus and see how short the=
 opening is at the moment - akin to the ol' gray/grey oblique iono tilts.=
 looking at the data the typical&nbsp;fades/peaks are around 1 minute, so=
 longer than I thought, but very deep, but I bet they change when the iono=
 kicks up. Slightly short a time for WOLF but Im betting it still overall=
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PR.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
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Thanks Henny, Jean-Pierre for the captures!
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On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 4:00 AM, "Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 (F1AFJ)"
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> Hello Henny ,
> Good conditions this still on the Atlantic, and Asia.
> On your capure one sees the signal of UA4WPF beacon!
> 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj
>
> henny van elst a =E9crit :
>>
>> Hi Warren LF,
>> Nice capture XGJ
>> Henny pa3cpm
>> best 73
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Morning Gus/LF

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Using a 350Hz filter and offsetting the IF response to get a 1400-1600Hz+=
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 my normal 2.2Kish normalized SSB filter. More testing needed, but still=
 a short "opening" to Eu.

=20

090923 1934   7 -22  0.9   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 33          0 10380    2
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Using a 350Hz filter and offsetting the IF response to get a 1400-1600Hz+=
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Thanks for this John. I shall give it a go and let people have reports.

73s
Roger G3XBM

2009/9/9 John P-G <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk>

> Roger,
>
> I found Wolfgang, DL4YHF, has writting a GUI program to run WOLF
> (originally it was command line only) and it's available here:
>
> http://freenet-homepage.de/dl4yhf/wolf/index.html
>
> actual download URL:
> http://freenet-homepage.de/dl4yhf/wolf/wolf_gui_060118.zip
>
> I simply unzipped it and ran the WOLF_GUI.exe file.
>
> I set the centre frequency to 1kHz (the tab "Wolf config" has settings for
> TX and RX centre frequency) and then back on the main tab clicked the "RX"
> button. Tune the RX in USB mode to 502.5000 and you should see a coloured
> line in the center of the waterfall (Jim's signal) then after 12 seconds or
> so some decoded stuff should appear.
>
> I can't help any more than that, yet.
>
> Cheers,
>
> John
> GM4SLV
> Shetland
>
> Roger Lapthorn wrote:
>
>> *Newbie help please.....*
>>
>>
>> As I'd like to try listening to the WOLF transmissions people are sending
>> on
>> 500kHz, can someone give me a link or two to *suitable software and
>> installation instructions *please?  Is there the equivalent of K1JT's WSPR
>> software than simply installs and runs? At this stage I am only interested
>> in receiving.
>>
>> I assume that a reasonable XP laptop and a SignaLink USB are all that I
>> need
>> in addition to my FT817, as for WSPR.
>>
>> 73s
>> Roger G3XBM
>>
>> -------------------------------------------------------------
>> http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/
>> http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
>> G3XBM    GQRP 1678      ISWL G11088
>>
>>
>
>


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Thanks for this John. I shall give it a go and let people have reports.<br=
><br>73s<br>Roger G3XBM<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/9/9 John P-=
G <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk">g=
m4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk</a>&gt;</span><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204,=
 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Roger,<br>
<br>
I found Wolfgang, DL4YHF, has writting a GUI program to run WOLF (original=
ly it was command line only) and it&#39;s available here:<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"http://freenet-homepage.de/dl4yhf/wolf/index.html" target=3D"_b=
lank">http://freenet-homepage.de/dl4yhf/wolf/index.html</a><br>
<br>
actual download URL:<br>
<a href=3D"http://freenet-homepage.de/dl4yhf/wolf/wolf_gui_060118.zip" tar=
get=3D"_blank">http://freenet-homepage.de/dl4yhf/wolf/wolf_gui_060118.zip<=
/a><br>
<br>
I simply unzipped it and ran the WOLF_GUI.exe file.<br>
<br>
I set the centre frequency to 1kHz (the tab &quot;Wolf config&quot; has se=
ttings for TX and RX centre frequency) and then back on the main tab click=
ed the &quot;RX&quot; button. Tune the RX in USB mode to 502.5000 and you=
 should see a coloured line in the center of the waterfall (Jim&#39;s sign=
al) then after 12 seconds or so some decoded stuff should appear.<br>

<br>
I can&#39;t help any more than that, yet.<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
<br>
John<br>
GM4SLV<br>
Shetland<br>
<br>
Roger Lapthorn wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204,=
 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
*Newbie help please.....*<div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
<br>
As I&#39;d like to try listening to the WOLF transmissions people are send=
ing on<br>
500kHz, can someone give me a link or two to *suitable software and<br>
installation instructions *please? =A0Is there the equivalent of K1JT&#39;=
s WSPR<br>
software than simply installs and runs? At this stage I am only interested=
<br>
in receiving.<br>
<br>
I assume that a reasonable XP laptop and a SignaLink USB are all that I ne=
ed<br>
in addition to my FT817, as for WSPR.<br>
<br>
73s<br>
Roger G3XBM<br>
<br>
-------------------------------------------------------------<br>
<a href=3D"http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://g3xbm-=
qrp.blogspot.com/</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.g3xbm.co.uk" target=3D"_blank">http://www.g3xbm.co.u=
k</a><br>
G3XBM =A0 =A0GQRP 1678 =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL G11088<br>
<br>
</div></div></blockquote>
<br>
<br>
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Jean-Pierre, Henny,

Thanks for the reports. I will run again tonight.

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KO85sv


> Thanks Andrey
> What is your locator square?
> 
> 73
> Dave
> 
> 2009/9/23 Andrey rn3agc <rn3agc@mail.ru>
> 
>> Hello Dave, LF,
>>
>> 2026   -29  0.6   0.503808  G3YXM IO92 27
>>
>> 73 Andrey
>>
>>
> 
> 
> -- 
> G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK
>

73 Andrey


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Tnx roman for info abt yo2is qsx 500 khz
g3kev
YO2IS pse call on 7033 for xband qso

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Roman RW3ADB" <rw3adb@rambler.ru>
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>
>
>> Excellent propagartion world wide on 7Mcs tonite but so far nothing
> exciting on LF/MF
>
> Not so excellent, Mal. You are do not copy me on 40 now. -)
>
>> Mal/g3kev
>
>
>
> --
> Roman RW3ADB.
>


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Hi , Henny , Lubos , Warren ,

Yes very good copy of "XGJ" last night !! ( see capture )

73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

henny van elst a =E9crit :
> Hi Warren,LF
> capture XGJ
> Henny pa3cpm
> best 73s
>  =20
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Hi Roger

 

Well done! I remember my first contact albeit at -30dB and my first CW QSO
with G3XIZ too.  Beats the pants off 20m ssb for wow factor!!

 

As the night progresses you may get further.  I got to Shetlands with my
version one ground heater!

 

With best regards

 

 

Jim

 

 

Dr. James Cowburn

E  <blocked::mailto:james.cowburn@virgin.net> james.cowburn@virgin.net

 

 

  _____  

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Roger Lapthorn
Sent: 13 September 2009 21:11
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: My first WSPR spots

 

All of 3kms away (whoa DX!!) but I just got my first WSPR report on 500kHz:


 2009-09-13 20:04 

 G3XBM 

 0.503908 

 -6 

 0 

 JO02dg 

 0.001 

 G6ALB 

 JO02dg 

 0 

 0 


 2009-09-13 20:02 

 G3XBM 

 0.503910 

 -12 

 -1 

 JO02dg 

 0.001 

 G6ALB 

 JO02dg 

 0 

 0 


At least the signal is getting across the fields at the back of the house.
Andrew G6ALB is in the next village. You can see by my report that I have a
LOT of work to do....

73s
Roger G3XBM
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:=
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yle=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Well done! I re=
member my first contact albeit
at -30dB and my first CW QSO with G3XIZ too. &nbsp;Beats the pants off=
 20m ssb for
wow factor!!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
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yle=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>As the night pr=
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further.&nbsp; I got to Shetlands with my version one ground heater!<o=
:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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:p></span></font></p>

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in.net"><span lang=3DDE>james.cowburn@virgin.net</span></a></span></fo=
nt><font color=3Dnavy><span lang=3DDE style=3D'color:navy'><o:p></o:p>=
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t></b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;fon=
t-family:Tahoma'> owner-<st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blac=
ksheep.org</st1:PersonName> [mailto:owner-<st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">=
rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</st1:PersonName>] <b><span style=3D'font-=
weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Roger Lapthorn<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 13 September 2009=
 21:11<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:s=
t=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> LF: My first=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3D3 fac=
e=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>All of 3kms awa=
y (whoa
DX!!) but I just got my first WSPR report on 500kHz:<o:p></o:p></span>=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'><br clear=3Dall>
At least the signal is getting across the fields at the back of the ho=
use.
Andrew G6ALB is in the next village. You can see by my report that I=
 have a <st1:place w:st=3D"on">LOT</st1:place> of work to do....<br>
<br>
73s<br>
Roger G3XBM<br>
-- <br>
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<a href=3D"http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/">http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.c=
om/</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.g3xbm.co.uk">http://www.g3xbm.co.uk</a><br>
G3XBM &nbsp; &nbsp;GQRP 1678 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;ISWL G11088<o:p></o:p=
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On 10 Sep 2009 at 21:11, Roger Lapthorn wrote:

> Well, easy for some (I can see) but NOT for me. What am I doing wrong?
> 
> 19:19:11 >WOLF RESTARTED
> t:  24 f: 0.367 a:-0.5 dp: 85.8 ci: 1 cj:  0 1STCG6J2X7EUEWZ ?
> t:  48 f: 0.366 a:-0.4 dp: 85.7 ci: 2 cj:  0 VP*JV9IX47R60ZC ?

You are not alone Roger....

2009-09-10 20:05:04 >WOLF10  -r 8000 -f 700 -t 10 -d 8 -w 0.0000
t:  24 f:-3.282 a: 0.2 dp:131.5 ci: 1 cj:202 Y 6NQSDZ42XVQHU ?
t:  48 f:-3.282 a: 0.2 dp:128.8 ci: 7 cj:252 XHW/EU864G09IUO ?
t:  96 f:-3.429 a: 0.1 dp:126.6 ci: 6 cj:472 SCE6XF5ZOGYP0IY -
t: 192 f:-3.477 pm: 8690 jm:456 q: -6.9 -8.0 HIQ*QAUZFJGT8XB ?
t: 288 f:-3.770 pm:11554 jm:455 q: -8.3 -7.8 K2WH67SKZF20??? ?
t: 384 f:-3.477 pm:11696 jm:455 q: -4.8 -4.9 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t: 480 f:-3.477 pm:13507 jm:455 q: -4.8 -5.7 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t: 576 f:-2.891 pm:20843 jm:453 q: -3.7 -8.0 0XB7VQ6W169B0J9 ?
t: 672 f:-2.891 pm:20855 jm:453 q: -3.5 -7.9 0XB7VQ6W169B0J9 ?
t: 768 f:-2.891 pm:20862 jm:453 q: -3.4-10.2 DGC1ALF5ZELF5HS ?

At least there are a couple of valid decodes there, but my quality 
fields are way way below those of John's.

Like WSPR another of these toys which I will probably never look at 
again...

73 Dave G3YMC

http://www.davesergeant.com



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Dear Warren,

Band plans aside, do all the various WD/WE stations have access to the same 
basic frequency range?

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU 



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Good morning,
F8BOJ calling CQ for a while on 137.740KHz and now in QSO with someone.
=20
vy73
Marco
DD7PC
JN49ax
=20
Rx: FT857 + Miniwhip

  _____ =20

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
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Subject: LF: F8BOJ beacon


Hello Claude,you should make tries beacon in QRSS60 at night, with your
good signal americans listeners should receive you i think.
=20
Cheers my friends.
F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP

RX : Icom IC7400
Ant: Wellbrook LFL 1010
http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/

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<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D259240809-19092009>Good=20
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<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D259240809-19092009>F8BOJ calling=
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<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN  class=3D259240809-19092009>vy73<BR>Marc=
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<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D259240809-19092009>Rx: FT857 +=
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<DIV>Hello Claude,you should make tries beacon in QRSS60&nbsp;at night, wi=
th=20
your&nbsp;good signal americans listeners&nbsp;should receive you i think.=
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Andrey goodnight 
Thank you to leave your grabber road I'll try to see me go home 
at least good night tribute to your qro ..
best regards...
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----- Original Message ----- 
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> 
> HI, Claude!
> RN3AGC Andrey ask you trying to TX on 137777 up to 2-3 hours later.
> Trying to see you in Moscow.
> The grabbers started ON:
> http://www.rn3agc.msk.ru/grabber1.shtml
> http://qrss.nm.ru/grabber.html
> 
> --
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Dear Roman, LF Group,

The signal on 503950Hz is SM6BHZ. G4WGT is on 503910 and G7NKS on 503946 
(but very QRP).

Cheers, Jim Moritz
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John,

Are these spots up loaded to the  wspr  database , im not  seeing any at 
your  range ?

G ..

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>
> I have some copy of SM6BHZ in the past half hour:
> 0016 -29  0.9   0.503951   0  SM6BHZ JO57 30
> 0026 -28  1.0   0.503951   0  SM6BHZ JO57 30
> 0034 -27  1.0   0.503951   0  SM6BHZ JO57 30
> 0040 -26  1.2   0.503951   0  SM6BHZ JO57 30
>
> Will let it run overnight and see if any other calls show up.
>
> John Andrews, W1TAG/1
> Raymond, Maine FN42ch
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Thank you Lubos for the excellent capture!
--=20
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
                WE2XEB/2
                WE2XGR/1


2009/9/9 Lubos OK2BVG <bvgbob@hotmail.com>:
> Hello Waren, LF!
> There were fantastic condition last night! Both, XGJ and WPF were receiv=
ed
> at the same time. WPF is usually FB, but it was interesting, that=A0 XGJ=
=B4s
> signal was 15dB over noise! SUPER!
>
> 73!
>
> Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS
>
> ________________________________
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Dear Markus, Andrey, LF Group,

I am now running the WSPR beacon again on 135.5kHz "dial frequency", 
137.090kHz RF out. Hopefully, this will be within range of Markus' receiver, 
and also near enough to 137.1k for Andrey.

If anyone else is going to be on 137k tonight, I can set the RX to monitor 
their QRG - if not, I could put the RX on 500kHz again.

Looking at Markus' grabber tonight, it is nearly a white-out (or rather 
green-out ;-)) due to the loud QRN, but we will see.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
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Andy, LF,

Nothing here yet, but will leave WSPR RX running continuously.

I see BHZ has just appeared here at 1418z

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Hi LF,
Capture DI2AM-DI2AG
Henny pa3cpm
73s
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Dear John and LF,

I did some test after work with antenna between 14.00 and 14.30.
 
73 de Gus SM6BHZ


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> Andy, LF,
> 
> Nothing here yet, but will leave WSPR RX running continuously.
> 
> I see BHZ has just appeared here at 1418z
> 
> John
> GM4SLV
> -- 
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Tim
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Can u hear my CW on 502.6
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> Have my Rx on 500kHz (dial 502.4) immediately got copy of G7NKS, will
> leave it running for a while and uploading spots to the database
>
> Tim M0AFJ
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Gus ,

I would  say the  beacon is round the  55  mark, Im using the  38  ft=
  vertical , un tuned , into the  ft-897  with the  pre -amp 'off' ,=
 the  local bc  radio  is cross modding the  rx if I use the  tuner et=
c .. may be  not  as strong as the  last time  you  ran ssb , usual de=
ep  qsb , but the  audio is  fine=20

73 - Graham

Nb as  more stations are tuned to  500 , perhaps  one night  you  coul=
d  run the psk sounder again ?

http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/zl2afp-psk-sounder



From: Gus=20
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 7:18 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Subject: LF: SSB Beacon


Dear LF,

this evening i test an SSB Beacon, QRG 508 kHz LSB.
Reports are welcome.

73 de Gus SM6BHZ
www.sm6bhz.com




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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Gus ,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>I would&nbsp; say the&nbsp; beacon is=
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the&nbsp; 55&nbsp; mark, Im using the&nbsp; 38&nbsp; ft&nbsp; vertical=
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tuned , into the&nbsp; ft-897&nbsp; with the&nbsp; pre -amp 'off'=20
,&nbsp;the&nbsp; local bc &nbsp;radio&nbsp; is cross modding the&nbsp;=
 rx if I=20
use the&nbsp; tuner etc .. may be&nbsp; not&nbsp; as strong as the&nbs=
p; last=20
time&nbsp; you&nbsp; ran ssb , usual deep&nbsp; qsb , but the&nbsp; au=
dio=20
is&nbsp; fine </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>73 - Graham</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Nb as&nbsp; more stations are tuned=
 to&nbsp; 500 ,=20
perhaps&nbsp; one night&nbsp; you&nbsp; could&nbsp; run the psk sounde=
r again=20
?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><A   href=3D"http://groups.google.com=
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A   title=3D"mailto:beg=
u@algonet.se&#10;CTRL + Click to follow link"   href=3D"mailto:begu@al=
gonet.se">Gus</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, September 24, 2009 7:18 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org   href=3D"mail=
to:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> LF: SSB Beacon</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4>Dear LF,</FONT></EM></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4></FONT></EM></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4>this evening i test an SSB Beacon, QRG=
 508 kHz=20
LSB.</FONT></EM></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4>Reports are welcome.</FONT></EM></STRO=
NG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4></FONT></EM></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4>73 de Gus SM6BHZ</FONT></EM></STRONG><=
/DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4><A   href=3D"http://www.sm6bhz.com">ww=
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<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4></FONT></EM></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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Dear All

 

G7NKS   ("No Known Signal! Hi hi) will be also txing on Wolf tonight.  I
will send G7NKS IO92UB 10mw.   I am still v QRPppp but we'll see how I get
on.

 

Having fixed my mini-VNA (dry joint on coax connectors!) I will be working
on my ant system this weekend, after a trip to the Loughborough rally to get
some bits and pieces.

 

 

 

With best regards

 

 

Jim

 

 

Dr. James Cowburn G7NKS

 

  _____  

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Roger Lapthorn
Sent: 10 September 2009 17:39
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: WOLF - ready to RX

 

All being well I am now ready to RX on WOLF on 502.5kHz (USB dial freq). Is
anyone planning to TX using WOLF this evening?

73s
Roger G3XBM

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http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/
http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
G3XBM    GQRP 1678      ISWL G11088


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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
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p; (&#8220;No Known Signal! Hi hi) will
be also txing on Wolf tonight. &nbsp;I will send G7NKS IO92UB 10mw.&nb=
sp;&nbsp; I am still v
QRPppp but we&#8217;ll see how I get on.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Having fixed my=
 mini-VNA (dry joint on
coax connectors!) I will be working on my ant system this weekend, aft=
er a trip
to the Loughborough rally to get some bits and pieces.<o:p></o:p></spa=
n></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>With best regar=
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<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> LF: WOLF - rea=
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le=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'>All being well I am now ready to RX on WOLF=
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<br>
73s<br>
Roger G3XBM<br clear=3Dall>
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<a href=3D"http://www.g3xbm.co.uk">http://www.g3xbm.co.uk</a><br>
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Jim,

XGR/3 off at 0235.

John, W1TAG

James Moritz wrote:
> Dear Jay, John, LF Group
> 
> Having arrived home, I see I have been copying WE2XGR/2 since about 
> midnight. I started up another instance of WOLF GUI upon seeing that 
> WE2XGR/3 was also on, and have just started to get copy at about 0220utc.
> 
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
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Dave,

On a quick look, I see some substantial frequency drift, probably due to 
the receiver, and also the possibility that your actual sound card 
sampling rate is quite different from the default 8000 Hz. Both of these 
things will keep the copy from building up, as the framing keeps changing.

Are you used to seeing frequency drift on QRSS signals? Do you suspect 
that the receiver isn't stable?

John, W1TAG

>> Well, easy for some (I can see) but NOT for me. What am I doing wrong?
>>
>> 19:19:11 >WOLF RESTARTED
>> t:  24 f: 0.367 a:-0.5 dp: 85.8 ci: 1 cj:  0 1STCG6J2X7EUEWZ ?
>> t:  48 f: 0.366 a:-0.4 dp: 85.7 ci: 2 cj:  0 VP*JV9IX47R60ZC ?
> 
> You are not alone Roger....
> 
> 2009-09-10 20:05:04 >WOLF10  -r 8000 -f 700 -t 10 -d 8 -w 0.0000
> t:  24 f:-3.282 a: 0.2 dp:131.5 ci: 1 cj:202 Y 6NQSDZ42XVQHU ?
> t:  48 f:-3.282 a: 0.2 dp:128.8 ci: 7 cj:252 XHW/EU864G09IUO ?
> t:  96 f:-3.429 a: 0.1 dp:126.6 ci: 6 cj:472 SCE6XF5ZOGYP0IY -
> t: 192 f:-3.477 pm: 8690 jm:456 q: -6.9 -8.0 HIQ*QAUZFJGT8XB ?
> t: 288 f:-3.770 pm:11554 jm:455 q: -8.3 -7.8 K2WH67SKZF20??? ?
> t: 384 f:-3.477 pm:11696 jm:455 q: -4.8 -4.9 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
> t: 480 f:-3.477 pm:13507 jm:455 q: -4.8 -5.7 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
> t: 576 f:-2.891 pm:20843 jm:453 q: -3.7 -8.0 0XB7VQ6W169B0J9 ?
> t: 672 f:-2.891 pm:20855 jm:453 q: -3.5 -7.9 0XB7VQ6W169B0J9 ?
> t: 768 f:-2.891 pm:20862 jm:453 q: -3.4-10.2 DGC1ALF5ZELF5HS ?
> 
> At least there are a couple of valid decodes there, but my quality 
> fields are way way below those of John's.
> 
> Like WSPR another of these toys which I will probably never look at 
> again...
> 
> 73 Dave G3YMC
> 
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G'day Mal,

>
> Most great men come from NI including 12 ex Presidents of the USA.
>

Let me see.... 

NI  -> USA -> President.

NI -> Scarborough -> CW Op

Oh - now I see the similarity.....;-)

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Hi Piotr,

The first line is:
2009-09-10 19:15:05 >WOLF10  -r 8000 -f 987 -t 20 -w 0.0000

The frequency of 987Hz is where (on my RX) Jim's signal peaks.

73s
Roger G3XBM

2009/9/10 Piotr M=C5=82ynarski <sq7mpj@toya.net.pl>

>  Roger Lapthorn wrote:
>
> Well, easy for some (I can see) but NOT for me. What am I doing wrong?
>
> 19:19:11 >WOLF RESTARTED
>
> And STILL no decode even though Jim is clear and strong on the waterfall=
.
>
> 73s
> Roger G3XBM
>
>
>> 2009-09-10 19:36:31 >WOLF10  -r 11025 -f 1000 -t 3 -w 0.0000
>>
>
> Dear Roger, LF group
>
> when you start the prgram from  scratch  the first line which appears
> in the receiving window looks like this:
> 2009-09-10 19:36:31 >WOLF10  -r 11025 -f 1000 -t 3 -w 0.0000
> send  here  "the same" line but from ur rx window . this line gives some
> info about your particular settings
> let's  look at it
>
>                                    73 de peter, sq7mpj
> qth: Lodz /jo91rs/
>
>


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Hi Piotr,<br><br>The first line is:<br>2009-09-10 19:15:05 &gt;WOLF10=C2=
=A0 -r 8000 -f 987 -t 20 -w 0.0000<br><br>The frequency of 987Hz is where=
 (on my RX) Jim&#39;s signal peaks.<br><br>73s<br>Roger G3XBM<br><br><div=
 class=3D"gmail_quote">
2009/9/10 Piotr M=C5=82ynarski <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:sq7=
mpj@toya.net.pl">sq7mpj@toya.net.pl</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class=3D=
"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin:=
 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">



 =20
 =20

<div bgcolor=3D"#ffffff" text=3D"#000000">
Roger Lapthorn wrote:
<blockquote cite=3D"http://mid9afca2640909101311i11534831g528282550dc840fe=
@mail.gmail.com" type=3D"cite"><div class=3D"im">Well, easy for some (I ca=
n see) but NOT for me. What am I
doing wrong?<br>
  <br>
19:19:11 &gt;WOLF RESTARTED<br>
  <br></div><div class=3D"im">
And STILL no decode even though Jim is clear and strong on the
waterfall.<br>
  <br>
73s<br>
Roger G3XBM<br>
  <br>
  </div><div class=3D"gmail_quote">
  <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(20=
4, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><br><div clas=
s=3D"im">
2009-09-10 19:36:31 &gt;WOLF10 =C2=A0-r 11025 -f 1000 -t 3 -w 0.0000<br>
  </div></blockquote>
  </div>
</blockquote>
<br>
Dear Roger, LF group<br>
<br>
when you start the prgram from=C2=A0 scratch=C2=A0 the first line which ap=
pears <br>
in the receiving window looks like this:<div class=3D"im"><br>
2009-09-10 19:36:31 &gt;WOLF10 =C2=A0-r 11025 -f 1000 -t 3 -w 0.0000<br></=
div>
send=C2=A0 here=C2=A0 &quot;the same&quot; line but from ur rx window . th=
is line gives
some info about your particular settings<br>
let&#39;s=C2=A0 look at it<div class=3D"im"><br>
<br>
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 73 de peter,=
 sq7mpj<br>
qth: Lodz /jo91rs/<br>
<br>
</div></div>

</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>----------------------=
---------------------------------------<br><a href=3D"http://g3xbm-qrp.blo=
gspot.com/">http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.g3=
xbm.co.uk">http://www.g3xbm.co.uk</a><br>
G3XBM =C2=A0 =C2=A0GQRP 1678 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0ISWL G11088<br>

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My wife goes shopping.works for her!!

 

With best regards

 

 

Jim

 

 

Dr. James Cowburn

 

  _____  

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Roger Lapthorn
Sent: 19 September 2009 10:52
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: RE: 500kHz QRPp WSPR overnight

 

Dear Jim (et al),

Thanks for this interesting analysis. It does indeed suggest plenty of scope
for improvement in the coming months. 

As I've said several times in the last week, I'm gobsmacked that anyone,
apart from G6ALB 3kms away, is able to hear me with the set-up I have. The
500kHz WSPR beacon will run one more time overnight tonight  then it will be
off for 2-3 weeks.  

My wife is wanting her dressing table back as the tiny ATU is sitting on it
and tuning is very sharp; every time she puts anything down I have to check
the antenna current is peaked :-))

You know I'm like a kid: I get so excited looking at the spots and thinking
about gradually making improvements and seeing my coverage extend on 500kHz.


My wife just humours me!

73s
Roger G3XBM



2009/9/19 James Moritz <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>

Dear Roger, LF Group,

It is interesting to make an estimate of what G3XBM's ERP might be...

The noise level at M0BMU during relatively quiet daytime conditions I
estimate to be of the order of 3uV/m in the 2.5kHz WSPR reference bandwidth.
The reported SNR gets up to about -25dB, making the signal level from G3XBM
about 0.18uV/m.

ERP = (Ed)^2 / 49; with E = 0.18 x 10e-6, d = 69000m , ERP is about 3uW with
only "geometric spreading" propagation losses. But there is some additional
reduction in field strength due to ground wave propagation losses, perhaps
3dB with "good" ground, so the ERP would then become about 6uW. Diffraction
losses due to the curvature of the earth are negligible at this distance.

Obviously, this could be +/- several dB due to various uncertainties, but
should be of the right order of magnitude. Plenty of potential for
improvement then!

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU 




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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'fo=
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t-family:Tahoma'> owner-<st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blac=
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<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:s=
t=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: LF: RE: 50=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3D3 fac=
e=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Dear Jim (et al=
),<br>
<br>
Thanks for this interesting analysis. It does indeed suggest <u>plenty=
</u> of
scope for improvement in the coming months. <br>
<br>
As I've said several times in the last week, I'm gobsmacked that anyon=
e, apart
from G6ALB 3kms away, is able to hear me with the set-up I have. The=
 500kHz
WSPR beacon will run one more time overnight tonight&nbsp; then it wil=
l be off
for 2-3 weeks.&nbsp; <br>
<br>
My wife is wanting her dressing table back as the tiny ATU is sitting=
 on it and
tuning is very sharp; every time she puts anything down I have to chec=
k the
antenna current is peaked :-))<br>
<br>
You know I'm like a kid: I get <i><span style=3D'font-style:italic'>so=
</span></i>
excited looking at the spots and thinking about gradually making impro=
vements
and seeing my coverage extend on 500kHz. <br>
<br>
My wife just humours me!<br>
<br>
73s<br>
Roger G3XBM<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'>2009/9/19 James Moritz &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:=
james.moritz@btopenworld.com">james.moritz@btopenworld.com</a>&gt;<o:p=
></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3D3 fac=
e=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Dear Roger, LF=
 Group,<br>
<br>
It is interesting to make an estimate of what G3XBM's ERP might be...<=
br>
<br>
The noise level at M0BMU during relatively quiet daytime conditions I=
 estimate
to be of the order of 3uV/m in the 2.5kHz WSPR reference bandwidth. Th=
e
reported SNR gets up to about -25dB, making the signal level from G3XB=
M about
0.18uV/m.<br>
<br>
ERP =3D (Ed)^2 / 49; with E =3D 0.18 x 10e-6, d =3D 69000m , ERP is ab=
out 3uW with
only &quot;geometric spreading&quot; propagation losses. But there is=
 some
additional reduction in field strength due to ground wave propagation=
 losses,
perhaps 3dB with &quot;good&quot; ground, so the ERP would then become=
 about
6uW. Diffraction losses due to the curvature of the earth are negligib=
le at
this distance.<br>
<br>
Obviously, this could be +/- several dB due to various uncertainties,=
 but
should be of the right order of magnitude. Plenty of potential for imp=
rovement
then!<br>
<br>
Cheers, Jim Moritz<br>
73 de M0BMU <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<a href=3D"http://www.g3xbm.co.uk">http://www.g3xbm.co.uk</a><br>
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Dave,

The deviation of the actual sampling rate from the nominal (8000, 11025, 
etc.) have always been an issue for low bit-rate sound card modes. The 
newer schemes may produce wider excursions, but that is a problem only 
if you aren't correcting for it.

WOLF has an obvious way to compensate for the actual sound card sampling 
rate, and once you have done it, the performance will be just as good as 
it would be if the rate were exactly equal to the nominal. If you have 
an accurate tone source, just use it in the WOLF calibration process, 
and you'll be all set. Other tone sources include Loran-C and 
divided-down outputs of higher frequency well-calibrated oscillators.

As you point out, the WSPR program does not seem to have a way to 
compensate for far-off actual sampling rates. But WSPR's author, K1JT, 
has a jack-of-all-trades program called WSJT that DOES allow for 
calibration. WSPR is one of a number of modes offered in WSJT. So, that 
might be a way out for those stuck with on-board audio setups.

That said, I've never had a sampling rate issue with WSPR on any of my 
various computers, a couple of which sample pretty far off the mark.

If you think this stuff is fussy, try BPSK at 1 bit/sec where your only 
adjustment is a trimmer cap in a crystal oscillator. Been there.

John, W1TAG


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Excellent propagartion world wide on 7Mcs tonite but so far nothing ex=
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I'll leave the beacon running overnight and hope that a few new spots might
materialise if the band is quiet during the night and dawn period.

Further improvements envisaged - more power, significant antenna
improvements etc - will now have to wait until October. Until I go on
holiday at the end of the weekend I'll keep running with the current set-up
and see if any others managed to find me.

All great fun and I want to do better in the coming months....

73s
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I&#39;ll leave the beacon running overnight and hope that a few new spots=
 might materialise if the band is quiet during the night and dawn period.<=
br><br>Further improvements envisaged - more power, significant antenna im=
provements etc - will now have to wait until October. Until I go on holida=
y at the end of the weekend I&#39;ll keep running with the current set-up=
 and see if any others managed to find me.<br>
<br>All great fun and I want to do better in the coming months....<br><br>=
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James Cowburn wrote:

> As the night progresses you may get further.  I got to Shetlands with my
> version one ground heater!


And again tonight...

2150 -28  1.1   0.503965  0 G7NKS IO92 23

Cheers,

John


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Roger I am stating the facts, someone else mentioned seeing the signal=
s on the waterfall but they were not decoding. I could easlily have ma=
de a qso on cw given the strength of signals whereas WSPR was not deco=
ding, so the exercise is pointless.
Get active on LF/MF transmitting and try the various modes then let me=
 have your opinion. We could have a qso on CW while WSPR is warming up=
!!!!!!!!
g3kev

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  Mal,

  Not helpful and factually incorrect.

  73s
  Roger




  2009/9/1 mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>

    All WSPR signals last evening struggling in QRN/QRS whereas they=
 were audible here and if in CW mode I could easily have made a real=
 time QSO.
    decode was marginal, and then the same old repetive rubbish.
    g3kev

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Roger I am stating the facts, someone=
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WSPR is warming up!!!!!!!!</FONT></DIV>
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Dear LF Group,

The WSPR beacon is now running again on 503.975kHz (502.4kHz "dial 
frequency"). Any reports would be very welcome.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU 



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Tnx Szigy for the QSO xband. Hpe to work u agn soon. I will be on again 
tonite using CW and QRS3.
That was two nice QSO'S last nite RW3ADB and YO2IS. Condx about average.
Tx antenna this end 1/4 wave inv L 100 feet high. RX antennas separate inv L 
500 ft total length and 40 m vert quad loop both resonated on 500 khz or 137 
as required.
73 de mal/g3kev

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Szigy" <yo2is@9a0tcp.ampr.org>
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Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 7:44 AM
Subject: LF: 500 KHz X band QSO !


> From: YO2IS
>  Hello from KN05ps, was pleased to hear and see the
> QRSS3 signals from G3KEV on 502.5 KHz up to S3, using
> my HM setup, 500KHz/14 MHz conv uA1496, 41m sloping
> wire tunned with a 0.3mH vario and GW4ALG like TU, and
> ARGO on a 'historic' 475 MHz WIN98se machine...
>  Have sent 'O' report on 7033 KHz and we succeded in
> a nice X band QSO, received the following msgs:
>
>  YO2IS G3KEV 5NN K  then  IS KEV QSL O O 73 TU SK
>
>  The level of signals was enough for a CW QSO !, its
> my best 500m ODX, KN05ps -> IO94sh = 1911 Km... Will
> QSLL direct next days...would be happy to get yours.
>  Our experimental beacon YO2X will be activated
> randomly on 505.723 KHz, QRSS3 and CW id, 50W and
> the 41m wire...some day do reactivate also my 137.7...
>
>   73 & DX, Szigy.
>
>


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Many thanks for the report Roman

Regards, Peter, G3LDO
>
>
> Looking to your freq too!
> qrss.nm.ru -> grabber 3 window 500-501.7
> 3rd window. But SPL... Is not so sensitive then ARGO.
> But I hope to see you.
>
> -- 
> Roman RW3ADB.
>
>
>



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Hi Andrey,
thank's report and info !

73 de Gus SM6BHZ

www.sm6bhz.com


----- Original Message ----- 
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Subject: LF: WSPR SM6BHZ M0BMU


> Hi Gus, Jim, LF,
> 
> 1920   -23  0.9   0.503926  SM6BHZ JO57 30
> 1932   -16  1.0   0.503926  SM6BHZ JO57 30
> 1938   -15  1.1   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 30
> 1948   -10  0.9   0.503926  SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 1958     -8  0.9   0.503926  SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2002   -26  0.8   0.503841  M0BMU IO91 33
> 2004     -2  1.0   0.503926  SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2006   -27  0.6   0.503841  M0BMU IO91 33
> 2014   -26  1.4   0.503841  M0BMU IO91 33
> 2014   -14  0.8   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2018   -22  0.8   0.503841  M0BMU IO91 33
> 2022     -6  1.0   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2028     -6  0.8   0.503926  SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2032   -21  0.8   0.503841  M0BMU IO91 33
> 2032     -5  0.9   0.503926  SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2038     -8  1.0   0.503926  SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2046     -3  1.0   0.503926  SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2050   -29  0.8   0.503841  M0BMU IO91 33
> 2052     -9  0.7   0.503926  SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2056   -30  0.6   0.503841  M0BMU IO91 33
> 2056     -9  0.8   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2102   -24  0.5   0.503841  M0BMU IO91 33
> 2102     -9  0.8   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2108   -21  0.6   0.503841  M0BMU IO91 33
> 2110     -7  0.9   0.503926  SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2116   -20  0.6   0.503841  M0BMU IO91 33
> 2116   -15  0.6   0.503926  SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2122   -24  2.1   0.503841  M0BMU IO91 33
> 2124     -7  0.8   0.503926  SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 
> 73
> Andrey
>




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Its normalised to 2500Hz banbdwidth - approximately an SSB filter's worth.

So +20dB in 100Hz   =   -3dB in 2500Hz.

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On 23/09/2009, Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
>
>  Just watched Dave's G3YXM  wspr  signal on spec-lab ,
>
> Spec-lab showed the  signal to  be a constant  20 dB over the back ground
> noise floor  of the  rx
> so in my  book that's 20 dB  s/n
>
> The  wspr  decode is  showing -3 dB s/n ?
>
> What is it  actually  displaying ?
>
> G ..
>
>
>
>



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<div>Its normalised to 2500Hz banbdwidth - approximately an SSB filter&#39=
;s worth.</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>So +20dB in 100Hz=A0=A0 =3D=A0 =A0-3dB in 2500Hz.=A0=A0 </div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>Andy</div>
<div><a href=3D"http://www.g4jnt.com">www.g4jnt.com</a></div>
<div><br><br>=A0</div>
<div><span class=3D"gmail_quote">On 23/09/2009, <b class=3D"gmail_senderna=
me">Graham</b> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk">g8fzk@g8fzk.=
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<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px=
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<div style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 10px; PADDING-LEFT: 10px; PADDING-TOP: 15px"=
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<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Just watched Dave&#39;s G3YXM =A0wspr=
=A0 signal on spec-lab , </font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Spec-lab showed the=A0 signal to=A0=
 be a constant=A0 20 dB over the back ground noise floor=A0 of the=A0 rx=
 </font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">so in my=A0 book that&#39;s 20 dB=A0=
 s/n=A0=A0 </font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">The=A0 wspr=A0 decode is=A0 showing=
 -3 dB s/n ?</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">What is it=A0 actually=A0 displaying=
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<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">G .. </font></div>
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Hello Andrey, LF!
That=B4s fine, thanks! I had got a good reception wihout QRN. But by perma=
nent problem are two strong (S9+60dB) transmitters near ham band (DCF39 an=
d HA). Their modulation is disturbing my reception very much. If you have=
 a look on the map, you can see, that my QTH is just  in the middle betwee=
n them.=20
OK, Andrey, have a nice day!

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

*************************

> From: rn3agc@mail.ru
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 20:17:35 +0000
> Subject: LF: Re: HF70W_QSO
>=20
> Hello Lubos, Marcin,
> I saw traces from signals. But here the strongest
> QRM from broadcasting station to 21z (153 khz).
>=20
> 73 Andrey
>=20
>=20
> >
> > Hello MArcin, LF!
> > Thanks for very nice QSO, I am pleased. Your signal was fine - see the=
 picture.
> >
> > 73!
> >
> > Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS
> >
> >
> > _________________________________________________________________
> > What's New v=E1m to =F8ekne hned, jak se to stane. Uka=BE mi jak.
> > http://home.live.com/=20
                     =20
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Hello Andrey, LF!<br>That=B4s fine, thanks! I had got a good reception wih=
out QRN. But by permanent problem are two strong (S9+60dB) transmitters ne=
ar ham band (DCF39 and HA). Their modulation is disturbing my reception ve=
ry much. If you have a look on the map, you can see, that my QTH is just&n=
bsp; in the middle between them. <br>OK, Andrey, have a nice day!<br><br>L=
ubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS<br><br>*************************<br><br>&gt; From: rn=
3agc@mail.ru<br>&gt; To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<br>&gt; Date: Tue,=
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>&gt; Hello Lubos, Marcin,<br>&gt; I saw traces from signals. But here the=
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in, LF!<br>&gt; &gt; Thanks for very nice QSO, I am pleased. Your signal=
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Hi Lubos, Jean-Pierre, LF,
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These are very impressive results Mal - well done. I expect you've put a
great deal of work in optimising your station and antennas over the years
and we all could learn a good deal from your experience.  I have a LOT to
learn at this end of the spectrum, but that is half the fun.

Best regards
Roger
G3XBM



2009/9/2 mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>

> I was getting 579 from BOSTON/USA from NC1K on 137 khz over the years on CW
> which I thought was good using simple equipment like a manual morse key,
> home built mosfet class D TX/PA and an inv L antenna, also regular QSO'S
> with Russian stations. I am able to do the same on 500 KCS. I am surprised
> you have difficulty with my signal, I expect the problem is your end.
> NC1K was a professional CW operator (Radio Officer) unfortunately now
> silent key.
> de G3KEV
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "John RABSON" <john.rabson@numeo.fr>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 9:47 PM
> Subject: Re: LF: wspr
>
>
> On 01/09/2009 at 20:17 mal hamilton wrote:
>
>  Roger I am stating the facts, someone else mentioned seeing the signals
>> on the waterfall but they were not decoding. I could easlily have made a
>> qso on cw given the strength of signals whereas WSPR was not decoding, so
>> the exercise is pointless.
>>
>
> That was me.  I wasn't decoding because I don't yet have a decoder.  Had I
> had one, and given the snr I observed, I would have expected 100% copy.  On
> the few occasions I have heard Mal, his snr has not been anything like as
> good as WSPR.
>
> John F5VLF
>
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These are very impressive results Mal - well done. I expect you&#39;ve put=
 a great deal of work in optimising your station and antennas over the yea=
rs and we all could learn a good deal from your experience.=A0 I have a LO=
T to learn at this end of the spectrum, but that is half the fun.<br>
<br>Best regards<br>Roger<br>G3XBM<br><br><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quot=
e">2009/9/2 mal hamilton <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:g3kevmal@=
talktalk.net">g3kevmal@talktalk.net</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class=3D=
"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin:=
 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
I was getting 579 from BOSTON/USA from NC1K on 137 khz over the years on=
 CW which I thought was good using simple equipment like a manual morse ke=
y, home built mosfet class D TX/PA and an inv L antenna, also regular QSO&=
#39;S with Russian stations. I am able to do the same on 500 KCS. I am sur=
prised you have difficulty with my signal, I expect the problem is your en=
d.<br>

NC1K was a professional CW operator (Radio Officer) unfortunately now sile=
nt key.<br>
de G3KEV<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
----- Original Message ----- From: &quot;John RABSON&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"=
mailto:john.rabson@numeo.fr" target=3D"_blank">john.rabson@numeo.fr</a>&gt=
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To: &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" target=3D"_blank">=
rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a>&gt;<br>
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 9:47 PM<br>
Subject: Re: LF: wspr<br>
<br>
<br></div><div><div></div><div class=3D"h5">
On 01/09/2009 at 20:17 mal hamilton wrote:<br>
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<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204,=
 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Roger I am stating the facts, someone else mentioned seeing the signals<br=
>
on the waterfall but they were not decoding. I could easlily have made a<b=
r>
qso on cw given the strength of signals whereas WSPR was not decoding, so<=
br>
the exercise is pointless.<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
That was me. =A0I wasn&#39;t decoding because I don&#39;t yet have a decod=
er. =A0Had I had one, and given the snr I observed, I would have expected=
 100% copy. =A0On the few occasions I have heard Mal, his snr has not been=
 anything like as good as WSPR.<br>

<br>
John F5VLF<br>
<br>
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Hi Dennis

It's more addictive than crack cocaine!!  Every extra 10km or so is a real
buzz.  Beats ssb dx hands down.



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> >>>I have learnt, WSPR sounds like a slightly rough CW and is transmitted
> in 
> >>>4min-blocks. <<<<<
> 
> Dennis , That may  not be wspr , wspr  tx time is  120 seconds locked to
> the 
> exact time , with the  start time on the  00-00
> by sound its like a very  slow narrow shift psk signal .....but it is only
> one  carrier  changing frequency  with  no breaks in the 120 second 
> transmission

Okay better to say: One cycle seemed to be 4min, divided into abt. 115sec TX
and 125sec no TX, maybe RX? The beginning of the received transmissions were
always well within half a second around even minute + zero seconds which to
me seems to be the strongest hint that is really was some wspr what I was
hearing. (DCF77-clock beside the speaker)

Since yesterday I'm looking for a notebook - to run wspr :)

vy73
Dennis
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Hello Gus ,

your ssb signal is about 55 at the moment,

73

Victor
  -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
  Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens Gus
  Verzonden: donderdag 24 september 2009 20:19
  Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
  Onderwerp: LF: SSB Beacon


  Dear LF,

  this evening i test an SSB Beacon, QRG 508 kHz LSB.
  Reports are welcome.

  73 de Gus SM6BHZ
  www.sm6bhz.com


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On 19 Sep 2009 at 8:53, Roger Lapthorn wrote:

> Clearly work is needed to up the ERP and will be done progressively
> during the autumn.  I will give the current set-up one last go overnight
> tonight then it will be down until Oct 6th. It's the weekend, so there
> might be a few more people listening?

Still not a whisper on the waterfall last night Roger, just the usual 
two Jims booming in:

194400   7 -28  1.4    64  0  G7NKS IO92 27         
195200  10  15  1.2   -53  0  M0BMU IO91 33         
195600   9  -9  1.9    70  0  G7NKS IO92 27         
200600  20  15  1.3   -51  0  M0BMU IO91 33         
200800   9 -11  1.4    76  0  G7NKS IO92 27         
201200  19  15  1.3   -50  0  M0BMU IO91 33         
202000  11 -10  1.5    80  0  G7NKS IO92 27         
202400  17  14  1.1   -49  0  M0BMU IO91 33

73 Dave G3YMC

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Only one decode,sorry I put in the wrong freq : 136.1 MHz in stead of KHz
(it was late)

0050 -23  3.8 136.101477  3 73 DE N F/AN7LQZ

73

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From: "Andrey rn3agc" <rn3agc@mail.ru>
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Subject: LF: Re: SM6BHZ WSPR
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Hello Gus,
Today bad propagation to Moscow. Yesterday it was much better.
The most good your signal was yesterday at 21.32:

2132  1  -0.5   0.503931  SM6BHZ  JO57 40

73
Andrey

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Hello Jim,

I got you at 2202z on 135.5 dial qrg:
2202   8  0.9   0.556500  0 M0BMU IO91 23
As you can see I had a entered a wrong qrg in the frequency window.
Fortunately upload window was unchecked therefore no wrong spot uplad to the database
has happened.:-)

73
Clemens
DL4RAJ 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "James Moritz" <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 9:08 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: WSPR 137.0k


> Dear LF Group,
> 
> Thanks for all the reports so far. The beacon will continue running for at 
> least a few more hours, although it looks like another noisy night on 136k.
> 
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU 
>


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hello Jim,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I got you at 2202z on 135.5 dial qrg:=
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g qrg in the=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Fortunately&nbsp;upload window&nbsp;w=
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therefore no wrong spot uplad to the database</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>has happened.:-)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73<BR>Clemens<BR>DL4RAJ&nbsp;</FONT><=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>----- Original Message ----- </FONT>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>From: "James Moritz" &lt;</FONT><A =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial><BR><FONT size=3D2></FONT></FONT></DIV><FONT=
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The beacon will continue running for at <BR>&gt; least a few more hour=
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Good morning Jim, Markus, LF!

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Good evening Steve,

    well, well, you make me blush... there are a lot of other very good programs
capable of displaying QRSS. Maybe Argo has the merit of having been the first,
so it got more widespread. And thanks for the report of 136kHz activity in VK,
though I don't think I have any hope to be able to receive one of those stations.

If you are interested in SDR, keep an eye on my soft_radio Yahoo list, maybe
in Q1 next year there will be an announcement about a new program.

All the best

73  Alberto  I2PHD
---------------------------------------

VK2ZTO wrote:
> G'day Alberto,
> 
> Nice to hear from you again too.
> 
> As you may know, we here in VK have been granted access to 136kHz this year, 
> albeit by way of a sort of NOV.    Almost all of the active VK LF stations 
> are using your excellent QRSS viewer ARGO.   So, once again, thank you for 
> providing this.
> 
> LF reception highlights for me using ARGO have been the signals from ZL 
> (ZL3JE) on 137.900kHz, various intra-VK transmissions, daytime reception of 
> a ZL NDB carrier using 120s mode on 214kHz (distance 2000km) and, recently, 
> reception of Mori's (JH1GVY) QRSS120 beacon on 137777.4Hz from JA (8000km) 
> from his balloon antenna.    Despite the usual background noise from the 
> jaded "pooh-poohers" and "dunbefores" I derive a lot of enjoyment out of 
> these activities.
> 
> The enjoyment derived from these would not be possible without your 
> software.
> 
> Along with your other software you have made a positive contribution to our 
> hobby and (I apologise for using an 'F' word) raised the level of FUN for a 
> lot of operators.
> 
> Sorry to embarass you with this paean, but to not acknowledge such 
> contributions would be small-minded in the extreme.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 73 Steve 
> 
> 
> 
> .
> 



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Hello Lubos, LF
OK! Mayby tomorrow (29 September ) about 19:00 UTC ?
--
Vy 73!
Marcin SQ2BXI



Hello Marcin, LF!
I would like to make a QSO with HF70W. When you will be QRV in QRSS3=
 mode,
let me know, please.
I hope you are successful in CQWW_RTTY!

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

**********************


> From: bxi@go2.pl
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> Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 10:50:44 +0200
> Subject: LF: Re: HF70W
>
> Dear Nicolas, Lubos, Henny and LF
>
> Thank for HF70W raports.
> Next station activity friday and saturday.
>
> I sleep after CQ WW RTTY Contest :-)
> --
> Vy 73!
> Marcin SQ2BXI
>
>
>
> Hello Marcin,strong tonight.
>
>
> F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP
>
> RX : Icom IC7400
> Ant: Wellbrook LFL 1010
> http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/
>



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Lubos,

>1.503925

you may want to check your indicated frequency.

73
Clemens
DL4RAJ
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Lubos OK2BVG
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  Subject: LF: WSPR


  Hello LF!

  2240  -5  1.1   1.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 33
  2240 -25  0.4   1.503950  0 M0LMH IO93 20
  2244 -24  0.9   1.503911  0 G4WGT IO83 27

  Lubos, OK2BVG


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Lubos,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>&gt;1.503925&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>73<BR>Clemens<BR>DL4RAJ</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><BR></DIV>Hello LF!<BR><BR>2240&nbsp; -5&nbsp; 1.1&nbsp;&nbsp;=
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  1.503925&nbsp; 0 SM6BHZ JO57 33<BR>2240 -25&nbsp; 0.4&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
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Hello,LF,
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Hello Gus, LF!

The signal of  SM6BHZ in the best time :

2248   1  0.9   1.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
2252   3  1.0   1.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
2300   6  0.9   1.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
2306   2  1.0   1.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30

I saw ED6TBF also:

0022 -20  5.0   1.504001  2 ED6TBF (BadMsg)

73!

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Hello Gus, LF!<br><br>The signal of&nbsp; SM6BHZ in the best time :<br><br>2248&nbsp;&nbsp; 1&nbsp; 0.9&nbsp;&nbsp; 1.503925&nbsp; 0 SM6BHZ JO57 30<br>2252&nbsp;&nbsp; 3&nbsp; 1.0&nbsp;&nbsp; 1.503925&nbsp; 0 SM6BHZ JO57 30<br><b>2300&nbsp;&nbsp; 6&nbsp; 0.9&nbsp;&nbsp; 1.503925&nbsp; 0 SM6BHZ JO57 30</b><br>2306&nbsp;&nbsp; 2&nbsp; 1.0&nbsp;&nbsp; 1.503925&nbsp; 0 SM6BHZ JO57 30<br><br>I saw ED6TBF also:<br><br>0022 -20&nbsp; 5.0&nbsp;&nbsp; 1.504001&nbsp; 2 ED6TBF (BadMsg)<br><br>73!<br><br>Lubos, OK2BVG<br><br /><hr />Ve službě Windows Live můžete uspořádat, upravit a <a href='http://www.microsoft.com/cze/windows/windowslive/products/photo-gallery-edit.aspx' target='_new'>sdílet své fotografie.</a></body>
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Hi Jean-Pierre & LF agn!
Yep, condx are very good!
I was surprised last night!
I'm put the screenshots from all night into QRSS-90 mode and half of 
night in QRSS-120 onto my report 136-page:
http://qrss.nm.ru/136.html

73!
Roman

* "\"Jean-Pierre MĂŠrĂŠ (F1AFJ)\"" <jpm.f1afj@online.fr> [Sun, 06 Sep 2009 
19:42:47 +0200]:
> Hi  Roman ,
> Tnx , good conditions !
> 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj
>
> Roman RW3ADB a ĂŠcrit :
> > Hello Jean-Pierre & LF!
> > It was an UA4WPF beacon.He was visible very good during the last 
night
> > into my grabber in Moscow.
> > http://rw3adb.narod.ru/2009/5sep2009_UA4WPF/137.07W_90_00009.jpg
> > http://rw3adb.narod.ru/2009/5sep2009_UA4WPF/137.07W_120_00002.jpg
> > Was traced onto your grabber and DF6NM too.
> >
> > * "\"Jean-Pierre MĂŠrĂŠ (F1AFJ)\"" <jpm.f1afj@online.fr> [Sun, 06 Sep
> > 2009 13:59:27 +0200]:
> >> Ok Andrey , Tnx for info
> >>
> >> 73 Jean-Pierre
> >>
> >> Andrey rn3agc a ĂŠcrit :
> >> > Hi Jean-Pierre,
> >> > It, probably, was beacon UA4WPF.
> >> >
> >> > 73
> >> > Andrey
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> Hello LF ,
> >> >>
> >> >> My antenna was in directection of the USA , I raised of the 
traces
> > on
> >> >> 137777. 2 , I suppose that it is ACG in beaconning !
> >> >>
> >> >> 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Roman RW3ADB.
> >
> >
> >
>




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=D1aprice of the prop on 500 today... (((
I'v do not got any traces in Moscow today.
WSPR is clear after 1h.
Dial 502.4 and looking around 503.5 in argo up to sunrise.
73!
Roman


* Roman RW3ADB <rw3adb@rambler.ru> [Wed, 09 Sep 2009 02:50:56 +0400]:
> Hi Jim, LF!
> Inside my side band, but no WOLF prog- argo running now.
> Roman
>
>
> * James Moritz <james.moritz@btopenworld.com> [Tue, 8 Sep 2009=20
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> +0100]:
> > Dear LF Group,
> >
> > I am now running a "standard" WOLF 10 mode beacon on 503.500kHz for
> the
> > next
> > few hours. Any reports would be very welcome. Information and=20
software
> > downloads can be found at
> > http://freenet-homepage.de/dl4yhf/wolf/index.html.
> > The beacon may shut down from time to time, because the signal seems
> to
> > scramble my ADSL modem...
> >
> > Cheers, Jim Moritz
> > 73 de M0BMU
> >
> >
>
>
>
>



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* Marcin <bxi@go2.pl> [Mon, 14 Sep 2009 21:34:28 +0200]:
> Dear Roman, Gus, LF
> In Gdansk today SM6BHZ WSPR signal +2dB.
> And I am interested crosband qso.

Let's try to find an correspondent with TX on 503Kc and receiver on 
40/80m QRV! -)

> > Hi LF!
> >
> > Looking SM6BHZ WSPR -19 now.
> >
> > Somebody interesting to make an x-band 503 kHz/40 or 80m today?
> >
> > --
> > Roman RW3ADB.
> >
>




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I just see your signal QRSS60.

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On 5 Sep 2009 at 20:56, James Moritz wrote:

> Dear LF Group,
> 
> The WSPR beacon is now running again on 503.975kHz (502.4kHz "dial
> frequency"). Any reports would be very welcome.
> 
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU 
> 
> 

Well I seem to be copying something, but no decode of you Jim...

2012 -10  2.1   0.504019  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2022  -3  1.7   0.503978  0 G4WGT IO83 27
2026 -10  1.8   0.504022  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2034  -8  2.2   0.503923  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2038 -12  1.8   0.503922  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2044 -12  2.1   0.503920 -1 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2048 -12  1.9   0.503919 -1 SM6BHZ JO57 40

Don't pay much attention to the frequencies as I had been playing about 
a bit. Also not sure what frequencies Gus and Gary are actually on - I 
thought Gus was just above 504 but it seems Jim is a bit higher up, so 
I guess Gus has moved down below now.

OK, switching off for tonight...

73 Dave G3YMC

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Hello Warren,LF
Capture XGJ,
Henny pa3cpm
Best 73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
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Warren,

Static is still very high here.  Nothing detected from you on Sunday eveni=
ng.  I will try later in the week, but tonight (Monday) is not possible.

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On 25/09/2009 at 16:40 Warren Ziegler wrote:

>John,
>
>   XGJ  is on 137.7798 here but sunset is not until 22:30 UTC.
>
>--=20
>73 Warren K2ORS
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>> F5VLF
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JIm,

I think you  find that is  caused by 50 hz mains hum .... may be a hum loop 
in the  audio system / pc-tx earthling , not likely to  be psu problem as 
frequency is 50 (fund)  and 150 ( 3 rd harm)

I had a similar problem with my  valve HF set , that was a slight  ripple on 
the PA  HT line caused by the  100% duty cycle of wspr, not part of the 
design criteria for  ssb/cw , caused  spots to appear +/-  100  Hz due to 
the  full wave  rectification in the  psu

G .

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>
> Dear Jim, LF Group,
>
>
>> Me too.  I am getting 3 traces (!) from Jim M (he is 9+10 and audible!)
>> and
>> a biggish one from Gus too
>
> I am seeing low-level (about -25dB) sidebands on your signal  at +/-50Hz 
> and
> +/-150Hz, which are giving rise to the extra spots.  I think something
> similar is happening when you receive my signal. I am not getting similar
> multiple spots from other nearby stations, nor am I seeing the same
> sidebands on other strong signals, so I think they must originate in your
> station somewhere - possibly audio being affected by mains noise, or some
> sort of residual FM of an oscillator in your rig?
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
>
>



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Thanks Dave, got it. Copied F4DTL perfectly, very good signal, first=
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Dear Dave, LF Group,

There seem to be some misunderstandings here...

The little box with the receiver noise level is there so you can set the 
gain controls to a reasonable level where the incoming audio is well above 
the noise level of the sound card, but well below overload level. 0dB is 
what K1JT has settled on as an optimum level, but quite wide deviations from 
that (say +/- 10dB or more) will not have much effect on the decoding 
process, or the reported SNR of the signal. In fact, even if the overload 
level is reached on noise peaks, it still makes little difference provided 
it only occurs a reasonably small proportion of the time.

The reported SNR is obtained by measuring the level of each WSPR signal 
during the 2 minute period, measuring the associated noise level during the 
same period, and calculating the dB ratio. Thus it is largely independent of 
the actual receiver or sound card gain settings, and gain can be varied 
through many dB (see above) without significantly changing the SNR reports.

So there is no direct connection between the receiver output level and the 
SNR figures.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Sergeant" <dave@davesergeant.com>
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Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 9:39 AM
Subject: LF: Re: s/n shown by wspr .... what is it actually showing ?


> In the ideal case of course you have just receiver noise as your
> background noise level. So you adjust your sound card input to give you
> the magic 0dB on that. During the night the static crash level will
> rise and push the S-meter to s9 at times. Every 15 minutes G4JNT will
> do its one minute of transmission on 503.7 at various power levels and
> push the little thing in the box well into the red. So one has to ask
> oneself what exactly the dB figures in reports really mean.... 



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Jim, LF group

<2 cents>

If T/A is of interest it seems like a three frequency slot system would be 
benificial.

slot 1) EU beacons (not attempting a QSO)

slot 2) USA beacons (not attempting a QSO)

slot 3) EU/USA stations attempting a QSO on the same frequency (for 
convenience in digital modes)

Slots 1 and 2 should not be combined as 'local' interference will preclude 
reception of T/A. A similar three slot system could be used for cw, although 
operating 'split' on cw is less of a problem than on the digital modes.

The WD2XSH bandplan eats up large chunks of spectrum by unnecessarily 
handing out frequency allocations to all stations. Past performance within 
the XSH group has shown that some never got on the air and many others 
haven't been on the air in years. Only a very few stations are regularly 
active. We would be better served by an 'open' frequency slot system as 
outlined above. It doesn't appear the WE2XGR station will be following the 
XSH band plan as currently laid out.

</2 cents>

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2



----- Original Message ----- 
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> Sorry, pressed "send" too soon by accident!
>
> Dear Graham, LF Group,
>
>> As the  European allocation looks to  be  wider than the  Uk, are we 
>> expecting the  UK 3 Khz  allocation to  remain as is, if  and when the 
>> band is formalised ?, in which case loosing 200 hz may not be the  most 
>> sensible option ...
>
> As I understand it, there are not yet any formal Europe-wide proposals, 
> just what individual regulators have allocated on a case-by-case basis. I 
> think G, EI, and ON have all allocated 501 - 504. The DL beacons and 
> OK0EMW are licenced to use spot frequencies around 505kHz. Gus SM6BHZ 
> would be able to use 504.0 - 504.1kHz.
>
> But the main thing is whether we over here should transmit around 504kHz 
> as we are now, or shift to near 501kHz to share a common WSPR segment with 
> the US. On one hand, keeping to near 504k would have the advantage of no 
> strong signals in band for those trying to receive US stations. But on the 
> other hand, it might mean we get QRMed by "general comms" US stations for 
> those trying to receive us, and anyone wanting to receive both US and EU 
> stations would need two receivers/soundcards, etc.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
> 



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Help! At one time there was a list of Loran lines visible within the 2200m 
allocation but it seems to have vanished. Is there still a source of this 
valuable info available somewhere on the web?

Steve


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Hello Marco and LF,

thank's report and info !

73 de Gus SM6BHZ

www.sm6bhz.com

----- Original Message ----- 
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> SM6BHZ WSPR loud and clear in Italy, JN35sa.
> 
> 195000   6  12  1.1  -895  0  SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 195200   6  12  1.1  -895  0  SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 195400   6  13  1.0  -895  0  SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 
> 23m untuned long wire, Perseus, WSJT
> 
> 73 - Marco IK1ODO
> 
>




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Hi!

My first ever WSPR receptions - by ear...   :)
Whoever it was, thanks for this experience!

Anyway, here are your reports:

13.XI.2009 

22:00:00Z - 22:01:55Z 503,9..  RST559

22:06:00Z - 22:07:55Z 503,96   RST559

22:10:00Z - 22:11:55Z 503,96   RST579

22:14:00Z - 22:18:00Z 503,96   nothing heard

22:18:00Z - 22:19:55Z 503,96   RST559

22:20:00Z - 22:21:55Z 503,88qsy? RST439

break for typing this text, and finally:

22:38:00Z - 22:39:55Z 503,88   RST449


RX homemade simple superhet, IF-BW tonight 750Hz
ANT 10m loop in a linden tree, pointing abt. 80deg/260deg


I have learnt, WSPR sounds like a slightly rough CW and is transmitted in 4min-blocks. Thanks.



Good night!

Dennis 
DL6NVC
Berlin 
JO62RM






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Is anyone looking for a TS850? Our club received
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Im asked whether 500kcs or  kHz etc is still in use here and yes it is -=
 heres a TTT TTT Nav warning on 500.00 Khz at  Hr +18 from XSV Tianjin rad=
io about 15 miles from me just a few mins ago.=20

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 yet and none of my ships or platforms are equipped here, but the Chinese=
 announced back in 2007 that 486 Khz (assigned) is to be used for a "Natio=
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I dont hear Ship to Ship or Ship to Shore on MF, or should I say I havent=
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TNX QSP FM YO2IS MY O COPY ON 502.57 KCS u are still 599 on 7033 cw
Tnx agn Roman nice qso cul de mal nw lsn for YO2IS ON 7033
MAL/G3KEV

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>* mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net> [Sat, 19 Sep 2009 20:37:34
> +0100]:
>> Hi
>> Roman
>> Tnx O copy report, vy gud condx on 7033 fm Russia pse call again for
> qso
>> mal/g3kev
>
> Tried after every cycle of your tx.
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> Only trace on 502.7 at moment.
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> Roman
>
>> ----- Original Message -----
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>> > Hi Mal, LF!
>> > Copy you OOO 502.570, but you are do not heard me on 40m.
>> >
>> > grabber is on 502.0 dial
>> >
>> > Roman
>> >
>> >> Now in CQ DX MODE 502.57 and QSX 7033 KCS for xband QSO'S
>> >> G3KEV
>> >
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Thanks Dave.

Please keep listening and looking overnight. I do appreciate your effort.
Should be easier in a few weeks when I get a chance to improve things.

73s
Roger G3XBM

2009/9/18 Dave G3WCB <ganymede444@btopenworld.com>

>  Hi, Roger.
>
> Nothing heard to date, but I'll be listening overnight. Only Jim so far.
>
> 1746 -11  0.6   0.503945 -1 G7NKS IO92 27
> 1758 -10  0.8   0.503943  0 G7NKS IO92 27
> 1810 -11  0.4   0.503942  0 G7NKS IO92 27
> 1822 -12  0.7   0.503942 -1 G7NKS IO92 27
> 1834 -13  0.6   0.503942  0 G7NKS IO92 27
> 1842 -13  0.9   0.503951  1 G7NKS IO92 27
> 1850 -13  0.5   0.503956  0 G7NKS IO92 27
> 1858 -19  1.0   0.503960  0 G7NKS IO92 27
> 1906 -20  0.6   0.503965  0 G7NKS IO92 27
>
> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
>
> -----Original Message-----
> *From:* owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:
> owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]*On Behalf Of *Roger Lapthorn
> *Sent:* 18 September 2009 16:42
> *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> *Subject:* LF: G3XBM's 500kHz QRPp WSPR beacon running again
>
> My 500kHz beacon has just been turned back on again. Any reports or
> screenshots would be appreciated.  It would be lovely to have some reports
> from a few new stations too and I'd just love to get >100kms with the
> current QRP set-up.
>
> 73s
> Roger
> --
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> http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/
> http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
> G3XBM    GQRP 1678      ISWL G11088
>
>


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Thanks Dave.<br><br>Please keep listening and looking overnight. I do appr=
eciate your effort. Should be easier in a few weeks when I get a chance to=
 improve things.<br><br>73s<br>Roger G3XBM<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quot=
e">
2009/9/18 Dave G3WCB <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ganymede444@b=
topenworld.com">ganymede444@btopenworld.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote=
 class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);=
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<div>
<div><span><font color=3D"#0000ff" face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Hi,=20
Roger.</font></span></div>
<div><span><font color=3D"#0000ff" face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"></font></span=
>=A0</div>
<div><span><font color=3D"#0000ff" face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Nothing heard=
 to date, but I&#39;ll be listening overnight. Only Jim so=20
far.</font></span></div>
<div><span><font color=3D"#0000ff" face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"></font></span=
>=A0</div>
<div><span><font color=3D"#0000ff" face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">1746=20
-11=A0 0.6=A0=A0 0.503945 -1 G7NKS IO92 27<br>1758 -10=A0=20
0.8=A0=A0 0.503943=A0 0 G7NKS IO92 27<br>1810 -11=A0 0.4=A0=A0=20
0.503942=A0 0 G7NKS IO92 27<br>1822 -12=A0 0.7=A0=A0 0.503942 -1=20
G7NKS IO92 27<br>1834 -13=A0 0.6=A0=A0 0.503942=A0 0 G7NKS IO92=20
27<br>1842 -13=A0 0.9=A0=A0 0.503951=A0 1 G7NKS IO92 27<br>1850=20
-13=A0 0.5=A0=A0 0.503956=A0 0 G7NKS IO92 27<br>1858 -19=A0=20
1.0=A0=A0 0.503960=A0 0 G7NKS IO92 27<br>1906 -20=A0 0.6=A0=A0=20
0.503965=A0 0 G7NKS IO92 27</font></span></div>
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<div><span><font color=3D"#0000ff" face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">73,=20
Dave G3WCB IO91RM</font></span></div>
<blockquote>
  <div dir=3D"ltr" align=3D"left"><font face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2">-----Or=
iginal Message-----<br><b>From:</b>=20
  <a href=3D"mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" target=3D"_blank">=
owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a>=20
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_blank">owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a>]<b>On Behalf Of </b>Roger=
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  Lapthorn<br><b>Sent:</b> 18 September 2009 16:42<br><b>To:</b>=20
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f_group@blacksheep.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> LF: G3XBM&#39;s 500kHz QRPp=
 WSPR=20
  beacon running again<br><br></font></div>My 500kHz beacon has just been=
 turned=20
  back on again. Any reports or screenshots would be appreciated.=A0 It wo=
uld=20
  be lovely to have some reports from a few new stations too and I&#39;d=
 just love=20
  to get &gt;100kms with the current QRP set-up.<br><br>73s<br>Roger<br>--=
=20
  <br>-------------------------------------------------------------<br><a=
 href=3D"http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://g3xbm-qr=
p.blogspot.com/</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.g3xbm.co.uk" target=3D"_blank=
">http://www.g3xbm.co.uk</a><br>
G3XBM =A0=20
  =A0GQRP 1678 =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL G11088<br></blockquote></div>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>----------------------=
---------------------------------------<br><a href=3D"http://g3xbm-qrp.blo=
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xbm.co.uk">http://www.g3xbm.co.uk</a><br>
G3XBM =A0 =A0GQRP 1678 =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL G11088<br>

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Hi Lubos,

It looks like there is only Gus & me on tonight, thanks for your report.

You can have your decodes uploaded to the WSPR Spots Page at :-

http://www.wsprnet.org/meptspots.php

by ticking the box "Upload Spots" on the program window.

73,

Gary - G4WGT.

2009/9/9 Lubos OK2BVG <bvgbob@hotmail.com>:
> Hello LF!
> I changed my aerials and the results is more better. I just see SM6BHZ=
 and
> G4WGT.
>
> 1940=A0 -3=A0 1.0=A0=A0 1.503951=A0 0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 1942 -29=A0 2.3=A0=A0 1.503911=A0 0 G4WGT IO83 27
> 1946=A0 -2=A0 1.2=A0=A0 1.503951=A0 0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
>
> Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS
>
> ________________________________
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Hello Nicolas mon ami,
Yes, I have a capture, but as you can see it's a bit 'over the top'.=
 This gives you some indication of how strong you were! If I had turne=
d the gain down it would have been a clean line with no background noi=
se.
Nice to see a good strong signal on 137, thanks.
Vy 73.
RX: IC718   ANT: home made active mini whip @ 10m
Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent, England, JO01MI.

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hello Nicolas mon ami,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Yes, I have a capture, but as you can=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Nice to see a good strong signal on=
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thanks.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Vy 73.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>RX: IC718&nbsp; &nbsp;ANT: home made=
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Graham wrote:

> Nothing in io83lk Roger, wspr  or  spec lab  only  decoding  Jim and Gus

Dear LF group,
speaking about treshold  reports....
this evening i have  again big  qrm  so  wspr indeed   goes to thresholds..
2114 -33  0.3   0.503845  0 M0BMU IO91 33
2114 -18  0.8   0.503930  0 SM6BHZ JO57 33
2118  -9  0.8   0.503930  0 SM6BHZ JO57 33
2120 -33  0.4   0.503845  0 M0BMU IO91 33
2124 -11  0.4   0.503930  0 SM6BHZ JO57 33
2128 -32  0.3   0.503845  0 M0BMU IO91 33
2128 -14  0.5   0.503930  0 SM6BHZ JO57 33
2134 -32  0.3   0.503845  0 M0BMU IO91 33

Jim, M0BMU is seen here at -33db
it is my "record" ...
                                        yours, piotr, sq7mpj
qth: Lodz /jo91rs/

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Graham wrote:
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Dear LF group,<br>
speaking about treshold=C2=A0 reports....<br>
this evening i have=C2=A0 again big=C2=A0 qrm=C2=A0 so=C2=A0 wspr indeed=
=C2=A0=C2=A0 goes to
thresholds..<br>
2114 -33=C2=A0 0.3=C2=A0=C2=A0 0.503845=C2=A0 0 M0BMU IO91 33<br>
2114 -18=C2=A0 0.8=C2=A0=C2=A0 0.503930=C2=A0 0 SM6BHZ JO57 33<br>
2118=C2=A0 -9=C2=A0 0.8=C2=A0=C2=A0 0.503930=C2=A0 0 SM6BHZ JO57 33<br>
2120 -33=C2=A0 0.4=C2=A0=C2=A0 0.503845=C2=A0 0 M0BMU IO91 33<br>
2124 -11=C2=A0 0.4=C2=A0=C2=A0 0.503930=C2=A0 0 SM6BHZ JO57 33<br>
2128 -32=C2=A0 0.3=C2=A0=C2=A0 0.503845=C2=A0 0 M0BMU IO91 33<br>
2128 -14=C2=A0 0.5=C2=A0=C2=A0 0.503930=C2=A0 0 SM6BHZ JO57 33<br>
2134 -32=C2=A0 0.3=C2=A0=C2=A0 0.503845=C2=A0 0 M0BMU IO91 33<br>
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Jim, M0BMU is seen here at -33db <br>
it is my "record" ...<br>
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Gus,
  How much power on ssb?
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On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Gus <begu@algonet.se> wrote:
> Dear LF,
>
> this evening i test an SSB Beacon, QRG 508 kHz LSB.
> Reports are welcome.
>
> 73 de Gus SM6BHZ
> www.sm6bhz.com
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Hi Roman, LF,

The signal on 503.700 kHz you can see on my grabber is the propagation
beacon being run by Andy G4JNT, transmissions are at15 minute
intervals at 0004, 0019, 0034 & 0049 minutes of each hour. The beacon
now runs 24/7.

It has a similar function & features to the beacons running on the
5MHz band (GB3RAL, GB3WES & GB3ORK).

For a full description of the beacon on 503.700 kHz please have a look
at the UK500KHZ group web site at :-

http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/multi-function-beacon-by-andy-g4jnt

Regards es 73

Gary - G4WGT.



2009/9/15 Roman RW3ADB <rw3adb@rambler.ru>:
>
> Hi Gary, LF!
>
> Tell me pse, what is a signal I can see some time into G4WGT grabber?
>
> --
> Roman RW3ADB.
>


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Chris wrote:
> ....and how does 'Jacking up' the antenna increase the ERP?
> Chris, G4AYT.

Chris,LF,

  Presumably by increasing the height one increases the capacity and the 
the radiation resistance and thus the ERP will rise for a given TX power 
and antenna current? One probably also reduces the loss resistance too, 
due to needing less loading L, so the current might also increase, 
leading to yet more ERP for a fixed TX power.

John
GM4SLV



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* Gus <begu@algonet.se> [Thu, 10 Sep 2009 22:57:23 +0200]:
> Hello Andrey,
>
> thank's report and info !
>
> 73 de Gus SM6BHZ
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Andrey rn3agc" <rn3agc@mail.ru>
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> Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 9:54 PM
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>
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> > Hi Gus, LF!
> >
> > 1934  14 -19  1.1   0.503931  SM6BHZ JO57 30
> > 1942  21 -13  1.1   0.503931  SM6BHZ JO57 30
> > 1946  17 -15  1.0   0.503931  SM6BHZ JO57 30
> >
> > 73
> > Andrey
> >
> >
>
>
>


2034 -27  2.2   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
2038 -27  1.9   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
2104 -19  2.3   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
2108 -21  2.1   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2116 -17  2.0   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2124 -23  1.9   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2132 -20  2.3   0.503926  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2140 -19  1.3   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2146 -17  2.1   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40


--
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K1JT and A1AA certainly appear to report a lot of Dx WSPR spots :-)
I do wish users would eithe rset their callsign / locator properly or turn
off automatic upload.

Best 'real' report last night was > 2000km, a TF station

Andy
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On 20/09/2009, John P-G <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Andy, LF
>
> Many spots last night - here's just one of them
>
> 2352  -6  0.4   0.503851  0 G4JNT IO90 23
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> And I wasn't even the best DX!
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> Cheers,
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<div>K1JT and A1AA certainly appear to report a lot of Dx WSPR spots :-)</=
div>
<div>I do wish users would eithe rset their callsign / locator properly or=
 turn off automatic upload.</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>Best &#39;real&#39; report last night was &gt; 2000km, a TF station</=
div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>Andy</div>
<div><a href=3D"http://www.g4jnt.com">www.g4jnt.com</a></div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div><br><br>=A0</div>
<div><span class=3D"gmail_quote">On 20/09/2009, <b class=3D"gmail_senderna=
me">John P-G</b> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk">gm4s=
lv@sighthound.demon.co.uk</a>&gt; wrote:</span>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px=
 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">Andy, LF<br><br>Many spots la=
st night - here&#39;s just one of them<br><br>2352 =A0-6 =A00.4 =A0 0.5038=
51 =A00 G4JNT IO90 23<br>
<br>And I wasn&#39;t even the best DX!<br><br>Cheers,<br><br>John<br>GM4SL=
V<br><span class=3D"sg">-- <br><a onclick=3D"return top.js.OpenExtLink(win=
dow,event,this)" href=3D"http://gm4slv.blogspot.com/" target=3D"_blank">ht=
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Clousta, Shetland<br>IP90gg<br><br></span></blockquote></div>

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>
> Just set up new Ant system, hopefully a lot less lossy so I should not=
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> =20

1852 -25  1.3   0.503940 -1 G7NKS IO92 23


First time decode !

73, Michel / f5wk


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Hi Mal

 

I could copy you ok but as the minutes progressed lots of noise here.
Confess I am using pc to decode/encode as my hand morse is not yet up to it
but I am learning.

 

You were clear 588 or 599

 

Thanks for trying and I'll have another go tomorrow poss in daytime if you
are around

 

With best regards

 

 

Jim

 

 

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James

Your signal daytime good audio copy plus visual and decoding, at dusk it
dropped 10db and was not decoding but visible and good for QRS 3.

Instead of improving after dark it has got worse and the long haul noise is
not helping. If u were using QRS 3 we could work and you must be hearing me
just got a report from EU.

MAL

 

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Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 7:55 PM

Subject: LF: RE: G7NKS WSPR

 

Just trying Mal on CW

 

Will be back on WSPR in a bit

 

With best regards

 

 

Jim

 

 

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From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB
Sent: 16 September 2009 19:05
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: G7NKS WSPR

 

WSPR record for G7NKS. Looking for others!

 

1658  -8  0.8   0.503942 -1 G7NKS IO92 23

1720  -4  0.7   0.503944 -1 G7NKS IO92 23

1732  -5  0.9   0.503942 -1 G7NKS IO92 23
1740  -4  0.9   0.503942  1 G7NKS IO92 23

1749  -7  1.6   0.503948 -1 G7NKS IO92 23

 

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor, S.E. England

 

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Roger Lapthorn
Sent: 16 September 2009 15:48
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: G3XBM 500kHz WSPR beacon back on - any stronger?

Good Folks,

Have made some quick changes to the 500kHz antenna and ground system (now
using my 10m halo and feed now as a short vertical with top capacity loading
and using the 15m long-wire as a radial along with the central heating
ground) and am putting the WSPR beacon back on shortly. Interested to know
if the changes have made much difference. Antenna current is higher so I
hope it will radiate a some more. Reports and screenshots gratefully
received.

On RX, G7NKS is about the same S/N as this morning before the changes. Not
quite sure what this is telling me.

BTW, I know I drift upwards about 50Hz for about 20 mins as the transverter
xtal oscillator settles.

73s
Roger G3XBM

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http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/
http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
G3XBM    GQRP 1678      ISWL G11088


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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'fo=
nt-size:10.0pt; font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></fon=
t></b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;fon=
t-family:Tahoma'> owner-<st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blac=
ksheep.org</st1:PersonName> [mailto:owner-<st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">=
rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</st1:PersonName>] <b><span style=3D'font-=
weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Dave G3WCB<br>
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 19:05<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:s=
t=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> LF: G7NKS WSPR=
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-1 G7NKS IO92 23<br>
1740&nbsp; -4&nbsp; 0.9&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503942&nbsp; 1 G7NKS IO92 23</sp=
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S.E. <st1:place w:st=3D"on"><st1:country-region w:st=3D"on">England</s=
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e=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Or=
iginal Message-----<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> owner-<st1:Person=
Name w:st=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</st1:PersonName>
[mailto:owner-<st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=
</st1:PersonName>]<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </s=
pan></b>Roger Lapthorn<br>
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 15:48<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:s=
t=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> LF: G3XBM 500k=
Hz WSPR
beacon back on - any stronger?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'>Good Folks,<br>
<br>
Have made some quick changes to the 500kHz antenna and ground system=
 (now using
my 10m halo and feed now as a short vertical with top capacity loading=
 and
using the 15m long-wire as a radial along with the central heating gro=
und) and
am putting the WSPR beacon back on shortly. Interested to know if the=
 changes
have made much difference. Antenna current is higher so I hope it will=
 radiate
a some more. Reports and screenshots gratefully received.<br>
<br>
On RX, G7NKS is about the same S/N as this morning before the changes.=
 Not
quite sure what this is telling me.<br>
<br>
BTW, I know I drift upwards about 50Hz for about 20 mins as the transv=
erter
xtal oscillator settles.<br>
<br>
73s<br>
Roger G3XBM<br clear=3Dall>
<br>
-------------------------------------------------------------<br>
<a href=3D"http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/">http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.c=
om/</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.g3xbm.co.uk">http://www.g3xbm.co.uk</a><br>
G3XBM &nbsp; &nbsp;GQRP 1678 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;ISWL G11088<o:p></o:p=
></span></font></p>

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Red box means its either too low (or recommended level) or too high - if=
 the box goes White its in the ballpark but Im told 0dB is opt-tee-mumish

=20

Laurence
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> Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 06:54:21 +0000
> From: gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: Re: LF: s/n shown by wspr .... what is it actually showing ?
>=20
> Peter Cleall wrote:
> > a more fundamental question. at the bottom of the WSPR screen a red
> > box has Rx Noise then a -dB number. What order of dBs do you normally
> > see in here.
> >=20
> > regards peter
> >=20
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> Peter,
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> John
> GM4SLV
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> Clousta, Shetland
> IP90gg
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Red box means its&nbsp;either too low (or recommended level) or too high=
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&nbsp;<BR>
Laurence<BR>&nbsp;<BR>&gt; Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 06:54:21 +0000<BR>&gt;=
 From: gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk<BR>&gt; To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.=
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owing ?<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Peter Cleall wrote:<BR>&gt; &gt; a more fundament=
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hers may have more info...<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; John<BR>&gt; GM4SLV<BR>&gt; <B=
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GAry, LF

Gary - G4WGT wrote:
> Hi Dave, LF,
> 
>> Dave Sergeant wrote:
>>> 3. You are of course s9+ at this range, and show as bright red on WSPR's
>>> spectrogram. Hardly 'weak signal'. Does the software cope with strong
>>> signals or does it overload?
> 
> I get about 25% decode from Graham G0NBD who is about 35-40 miles from
> me, all weaker signals decode OK. As it is a weak signal mode the
> stronger signals must be a cause of non-decodes.


Graham is often difficult here too though, and I think this is related 
to a soundcard problem at his end. The fact that you're nearer will 
probably just exacerbate the effect.

In general however it does appear that the mode is very good on weak 
signals and hit and miss on strong ones and one suspects that it's very 
intolerant of errors in soundcard sample rate - which is masked with 
weak signals to some extent.

Cheers,

John



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Hi Peter, LF!

Looking to your freq too!
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3rd window. But SPL... Is not so sensitive then ARGO.
But I hope to see you.

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Laurence,

  What are the times for your local sunrise/sunset in UTC?
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On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 1:34 AM, Laurence BY3A-KL1X China
<hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Chaps and Chappesses. The long haul conditions towards Eu, and for th=
at
> matter probably elsewhere are pretty good at the moment - DCF39 was poun=
ding
> in way over S9 last night here on the Eastern coastal region of China,=
 and
> s/n noise, in a box or otherwise, were getting better and it wasnt hurti=
ng
> my ears any more. Always a good sign. Mid range NDB's at around 1500Kms=
 on
> the otherhand were down a bit.
>
> If anyone wants to shove any mode up the spout on 137 or 500 my way Id=
 be
> delighted to turn the knobs as long as you send an email before lights=
 out
> here at around 1330z.
>
> Its interesting to look at the 500 captures of Gus and see how short the
> opening is at the moment - akin to the ol' gray/grey oblique iono tilts.
> looking at the data the typical=A0fades/peaks are around 1 minute, so lo=
nger
> than I thought, but very deep, but I bet they change when the iono kicks=
 up.
> Slightly short a time for WOLF but Im betting it still overall a better=
 mode
> for long (long) haul than results have shown so far with WSPR.
>
> Laurence, SWLing in =A0OM89UA Tanggu China.
>
> ________________________________
> Lauren found her dream laptop. Find the PC that=92s right for you.

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Jim,

> I would be quite interested to try WOLF again - although it needs more 
> careful coordination with frequencies than WSPR.

And I'd be happy to watch for it. Tonight would be difficult, as we will be getting ready to return home, but the rest of the week would be fine.

John, W1TAG


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Hello Jordan,

Did you get any replies?

73
John Rabson 
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58800 Cervon
France
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On 27/08/2009 at 16:04 Jordan wrote:

>Hello group....
>
>Other than the PAL, MFJ etc., type, are there commercially available 
>preselectors that would tune from 10khz to 2 or 3 Mhz...?  Or could
>someone 
>point me to a homebrewing site..?
>
>Thanks for your time...73...Jordan VE6ZT






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Captured last night on 137,778 with many QRN.
 
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Hi
Roman
Tnx O copy report, vy gud condx on 7033 fm Russia pse call again for qso
mal/g3kev

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Roman RW3ADB" <rw3adb@rambler.ru>
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> Hi Mal, LF!
> Copy you OOO 502.570, but you are do not heard me on 40m.
>
> grabber is on 502.0 dial
>
> Roman
>
>> Now in CQ DX MODE 502.57 and QSX 7033 KCS for xband QSO'S
>> G3KEV
>


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Dear Henny, LF
Thank you for HF70W capture.
Vy 73!
Marcin SQ2BXI

Hi,LF,
Capture HF70W
Henny pa3cpm
best 73s
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Hello Jim,

signal good copied this evening!

73's  de Gerhard  //  DK6NI  (JN59LN)

21:40:34 >WOLF RESTARTED
t:  24 f:-0.527 a:-0.4 dp:102.0 ci:11 cj:256 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t:  48 f:-0.524 a:-0.6 dp: 99.7 ci:13 cj:256 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -

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-----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von James Morit=
z
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 9. September 2009 20:57
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Betreff: LF: Re: tonight - WOLF10 test

Dear Lawrence, John, LF group,

Thanks for monitoring the Wolf beacon last night.

The beacon is now (1846utc) running again in standard WOLF10 mode on=
=20
503.500kHz - all being well, it will be going overnight. Any reports=
 will be

very welcome.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU

----- Original Message -----=20
From: "Laurence BY3A-KL1X China" <hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com>
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Ill leave the receiver on wspr on 502.4, Wolf10 on 503.5 and upload th=
e wspr

window to http://kl1x.com/dx00000.jpg - if the processor can take it=
 :-)






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Hello LF!

1910  -3  1.1   0.503927  0 SM6BHZ JO57 33
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Hi Gus, LF!

090908 0052  17 -14  0.9   0.503950  SM6BHZ JO57 30          0     1 
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No good decodes for the past few days and Im going to blame this local coa=
st station here still putting noise into my baseband. I went out and bough=
t a Tecsun PL-600 SSB portable receiver yesterday from the local Tesco equ=
iv and will get some bearings to confirm my suspicions on whom is guilty.=
 Not a bad little radio covers 100khz to 30Mhz SSB double conversion, plus=
 VHF- looks deaf on 137 but good enough for my needs and pretty warm on 50=
0khz, and fits in my pocket.

=20

There was a false decode last night showing Vk6POP - this was due to Op er=
ror in being slow in  not unclicking the upload button whilst changing fro=
m 40m, sorry, it happens.

=20

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No good decodes for the past few days and Im going to blame this local coa=
st station here still putting noise into my baseband. I went out and bough=
t a Tecsun PL-600 SSB portable&nbsp;receiver yesterday from the local Tesc=
o equiv and will get some bearings to confirm my suspicions on whom is gui=
lty. Not a bad little radio covers 100khz to 30Mhz SSB double conversion,=
 plus VHF- looks deaf on 137 but good enough for my needs and pretty warm=
 on 500khz, and fits in my pocket.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
There was a false decode last night showing Vk6POP - this was due to Op er=
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This is the trouble when a station BEACONS all the time. They do not=
 know what is going on around them especially on CW.
G3KEV

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: jrusgrove@comcast.net=20
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  Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 11:47 AM
  Subject: Re: LF: G4JNT WSPR


  Andy

  K1JT, AA1A, W1XP, W1VD and W1TAG have been watching for EU WSPR. All=
 display correct station information.

  Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: Andy Talbot=20
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    Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 6:23 AM
    Subject: Re: LF: G4JNT WSPR


    K1JT and A1AA certainly appear to report a lot of Dx WSPR spots :-=
)
    I do wish users would eithe rset their callsign / locator properly=
 or turn off automatic upload.

    Best 'real' report last night was > 2000km, a TF station

    Andy
    www.g4jnt.com



    =20
    On 20/09/2009, John P-G <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk> wrote:=20
      Andy, LF

      Many spots last night - here's just one of them

      2352  -6  0.4   0.503851  0 G4JNT IO90 23

      And I wasn't even the best DX!

      Cheers,

      John
      GM4SLV
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      Clousta, Shetland
      IP90gg




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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Andy</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>K1JT, AA1A, W1XP, W1VD and&nbsp;W1T=
AG have been=20
  watching for EU WSPR. All display correct station information.</FONT=
></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Jay W1VD&nbsp; WD2XNS&nbsp; WE2XGR/=
2</FONT></DIV>
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lor: black"><B>From:</B>=20
    <A title=3Dandy.g4jnt@googlemail.com       href=3D"mailto:andy.g4j=
nt@googlemail.com">Andy Talbot</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A       title=3Drsgb_l=
f_group@blacksheep.org       href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.o=
rg">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
    </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, September 20,=
 2009 6:23=20
    AM</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: G4JNT WSPR=
</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV>K1JT and A1AA certainly appear to report a lot of Dx WSPR spo=
ts=20
    :-)</DIV>
    <DIV>I do wish users would eithe rset their callsign / locator pro=
perly or=20
    turn off automatic upload.</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>Best 'real' report last night was &gt; 2000km, a TF station</=
DIV>
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    <DIV>Andy</DIV>
    <DIV><A href=3D"http://www.g4jnt.com">www.g4jnt.com</A></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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    <DIV><SPAN class=3Dgmail_quote>On 20/09/2009, <B class=3Dgmail_sen=
dername>John=20
    P-G</B> &lt;<A       href=3D"mailto:gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk"=
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      LF<BR><BR>Many spots last night - here's just one of them<BR><BR=
>2352=20
      &nbsp;-6 &nbsp;0.4 &nbsp; 0.503851 &nbsp;0 G4JNT IO90 23<BR><BR>=
And I=20
      wasn't even the best DX!<BR><BR>Cheers,<BR><BR>John<BR>GM4SLV<BR=
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Ok Dave

Well , it was only just showing at the Birmingham grabber and not at=
  g4wgt who is about  25  miles to the  east  of  me , the  signal was=
 into the  background noise , seemed to  have a long  script , but  ev=
ery time the  call came round  so  did the  noise bursts ,  IO82TP was=
 possible .. but in the noise , you  can rx anything hihi=20
may be it  will return to nigh....... looking at my  page of  random=
 text  i have g3uh ? and  g3vh , the  last letter J looks to  be  corr=
ect . I should of  recoded the  audio on the  pc .. may be the  sender=
 is not  on this  reflector ?=20

tnx - Graham .=20


From: Dave G3WCB=20
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2009 8:20 AM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Subject: RE: LF: CW beacon qrp on 5033 ?


Hi, Graham,

I listened but couldn't hear it at this QTH. But then I have a high no=
ise level due to ADSL hash...

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
  -----Original Message-----
  From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group=
@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Graham
  Sent: 19 September 2009 00:41
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
  Subject: Re: LF: CW beacon qrp on 5033 ?


  Was I the  only station to  rx this  cw beacon ... who was sending=
 it ?

  G ..


  From: Graham=20
  Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 8:37 PM
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Subject: LF: CW beacon qrp on 5033 ?


  Who is  running a qrp beacon on 503.3  ... very low in to  io83lk,=
 some thing about  5 ..? .. watts and a loop ae might of  copied  G0WS=
J but  could be wrong .. signal is just showing at Birmingham ..  not=
 at G4WGT grabber  and  very low in the  noise at Wallasey ..  ..looks=
 like it has  closed ?=20

  Beacon text is very long ... would be better with simple vvvv  test=
  de gxxxx  gxxxx gxxxx   etc as qsb and static kept  knocking bits ou=
t of the  text .... at least it  proved the  rx set up  works !

  Graham

  G0NBD




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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Ok Dave</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Well , it was only just showing at th=
e Birmingham=20
grabber and not at&nbsp; g4wgt who is about&nbsp; 25&nbsp; miles to th=
e&nbsp;=20
east&nbsp; of&nbsp; me , the&nbsp; signal was into the&nbsp; backgroun=
d noise ,=20
seemed to&nbsp; have a long&nbsp; script , but&nbsp; every time the&nb=
sp; call=20
came round&nbsp; so&nbsp; did the&nbsp; noise bursts ,&nbsp; IO82TP wa=
s possible=20
.. but in the noise , you&nbsp; can rx anything hihi </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>may be it&nbsp; will return to nigh..=
..... looking=20
at my&nbsp; page of&nbsp; random text&nbsp; i have g3uh ?&nbsp;and &nb=
sp;g3vh ,=20
the&nbsp; last letter J looks to&nbsp; be&nbsp; correct . I should of&=
nbsp;=20
recoded the&nbsp; audio on the&nbsp; pc .. may be the&nbsp; sender is=
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on this&nbsp; reflector ? </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>tnx - Graham . </FONT></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma">
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT><FONT face=3DArial></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #f5f5f5">
<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=3Dganymede444@b=
topenworld.com   href=3D"mailto:ganymede444@btopenworld.com">Dave G3WC=
B</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, September 19, 2009 8:20 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org   href=3D"mail=
to:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> RE: LF: CW beacon qrp on 5033 ?</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D405031907-19092009><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2=
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Graham,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D405031907-19092009><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2=
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D405031907-19092009><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2=
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listened but couldn't hear it at this QTH. But then I have a high nois=
e level=20
due to ADSL hash...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D405031907-19092009><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2=
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D405031907-19092009><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2=
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Dave G3WCB IO91RM</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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  </B>Graham<BR><B>Sent:</B> 19 September 2009 00:41<BR><B>To:</B> <A=
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heep.org</A><BR><B>Subject:</B>=20
  Re: LF: CW beacon qrp on 5033 ?<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Was I the&nbsp; only station to&nbs=
p; rx=20
  this&nbsp; cw beacon ... who was sending it ?</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>G ..</FONT></DIV>
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.fsnet.co.uk     href=3D"mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk">Graham</A> </=
DIV>
  <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Friday, September 18, 2009 8:37 PM</DIV>
  <DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org     href=3D"=
mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A>=
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  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Who is&nbsp; running a qrp beacon=
 on 503.3&nbsp;=20
  ... very low in to&nbsp; io83lk, some thing about&nbsp; 5 ..? .. wat=
ts and a=20
  loop ae might of&nbsp; copied&nbsp; G0WSJ but&nbsp; could be wrong=
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  is just showing at Birmingham ..&nbsp; not at G4WGT grabber &nbsp;an=
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  very low in the&nbsp; noise at Wallasey ..&nbsp;&nbsp;..looks like=
 it=20
  has&nbsp; closed ? </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Beacon text is very long ... would=
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  simple vvvv&nbsp; test&nbsp; de gxxxx&nbsp; gxxxx gxxxx&nbsp;&nbsp;=
 etc as qsb=20
  and static kept&nbsp; knocking bits out of the&nbsp; text .... at le=
ast=20
  it&nbsp; proved the&nbsp; rx set up&nbsp; works !</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Graham</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>G0NBD</FONT></DIV>
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Hello Marcin, LF!
I would like to make a QSO with HF70W. When you will be QRV in QRSS3 mode, let me know, please. 
I hope you are successful in CQWW_RTTY!

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

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> Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 10:50:44 +0200
> Subject: LF: Re: HF70W
> 
> Dear Nicolas, Lubos, Henny and LF
> 
> Thank for HF70W raports.
> Next station activity friday and saturday. 
> 
> I sleep after CQ WW RTTY Contest :-)
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> Vy 73!
> Marcin SQ2BXI
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> 
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> Hello Marcin,strong tonight.
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> 
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Hello Marcin, LF!<br>I would like to make a QSO with HF70W. When you will be QRV in QRSS3 mode, let me know, please. <br>I hope you are successful in CQWW_RTTY!<br><br>Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS<br><br>**********************<br><br><br>&gt; From: bxi@go2.pl<br>&gt; To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<br>&gt; Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 10:50:44 +0200<br>&gt; Subject: LF: Re: HF70W<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Dear Nicolas, Lubos, Henny and LF<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Thank for HF70W raports.<br>&gt; Next station activity friday and saturday. <br>&gt; <br>&gt; I sleep after CQ WW RTTY Contest :-)<br>&gt; --<br>&gt; Vy 73!<br>&gt; Marcin SQ2BXI<br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; Hello Marcin,strong tonight.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP<br>&gt; <br>&gt; RX : Icom IC7400<br>&gt; Ant: Wellbrook LFL 1010<br>&gt; http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/<br>&gt; <br>                       <br /><hr />Předveďte svůj styl pomocí zobrazení obrázků v Messenger. Prohlédněte si je všechny. <a href='http://download.live.com/messenger' target='_new'>Klikni zde!</a></body>
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Hello Markus, thanks
QRB between my QTH and broadcasting station of 90 km.
Power of the transmitter 150(evening)/300(day) kw.
More or less normal reception on 136 khz is possible here
only at night when the transmitter is switched off :((

73 Andrey


> Hi Marcin, Andrey,
>
> nice signal from HF70W also here in Nuernberg tonight.
>
> Andrey: Donebach 153 kHz seemed perfectly clean from here, so it's probably "Luxembourg" intermodulation onto the DCF39 carrier
> which is causing trouble again.
>
> Best wishes,
> Markus (DF6NM)
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Andrey rn3agc" <rn3agc@mail.ru>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 10:17 PM
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>
> Hello Lubos, Marcin,
> I saw traces from signals. But here the strongest
> QRM from broadcasting station to 21z (153 khz).
>
> 73 Andrey
>
>
>>
>> Hello MArcin, LF!
>> Thanks for very nice QSO, I am pleased. Your signal was fine - see the picture.
>>
>> 73!
>>
>> Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS
>>
> 



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Hi ALL!

I will be glad to make a new x-band QSO's!
It is possible for me QRSS-3\10/CW on SW or QRSS/SSB, SSB/SSB.
Sked's are welcome.
Prop from England to Moscow is very good and stable. QSO's season come.

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Hello Warren,LF
Capture one string,
Henny pa3cpm
best 73s
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Thanks for the report Jim. Also thanks to anyone else that looked for the signal.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2


 
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Subject: LF: Re: WE2XGR/3 WOLF Again


> Dear John, Jay, LF Group,
> 
> I started a bit late last night at 0124utc (don't ask...), but again got 
> consistent copy of WE2XGR/2 and /3. /2 decoded between about 0350 and a 
> little after 0534 (about sunrise time here), while /3 was decoded between 
> 0124 and about 0300. Most decodes occured within 288s - conditions seemed 
> similar to last night.
> 
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
> 
>


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Which mode is being used on 137.740 please??
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Dear Dennis,
I just run WSPR beacon, but i can take a break and transmit for you 15 min.
Is it ok if i transmit SSB and CW beacon , 505,5 kHz USB ?

73 de Gus SM6BHZ

www.sm6bhz.com


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>
> Hi!
>
> After some tinkering I'm surprised: The usual QRM is much lower tonight on 
> 500kHz, DI2AM loud and clear by ear.
>
> I don't like to discuss pro&contra WSPR, but for today, I do not have any 
> WSPR capabilities.
> Would You mind to transmit a 10-15 minute CW-Beacon for me?
>
> Thanks a lot :)
>
> vy73
> Dennis
> DL6NVC
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Dear LF

I've yet to finish my ant so still v compromise here and hence QRP.  I'm
getting the other 3 received and decoded ok though

With best regards
 
 
Jim
 
 
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Dear Roman, LF Group,

The signal on 503950Hz is SM6BHZ. G4WGT is on 503910 and G7NKS on 503946 
(but very QRP).

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU 




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Roger Lapthorn wrote:

> Hi Piotr,
>
> The first line is:
> 2009-09-10 19:15:05 >WOLF10  -r 8000 -f 987 -t 20 -w 0.0000
>
> The frequency of 987Hz is where (on my RX) Jim's signal peaks.
>
> 73s
> Roger G3XBM

Hi Roger,
ok,  the  sampling rate  i.e -r flag   set to 8000 indicates that  " 
check sampling rate" procedure has not been done ( as suggested by 
others) otherwise
we would see some numbers after decimal point  with respect to this flag 
i know that you are somewhat in hurry due to the  "in the  middle of the 
night plane" so
likely you will do it on the weekend
i guess i will be here  trying to rx  Lf modes so we will se the results
                 yours, piotr, sq7mpj
qth: lodz /jo91rs/

                             


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Thanks Nicolas

It all went a bit noisy at the end, as darkness fell here but was good at
the start.

73
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Thanks Nicolas<br><br>It all went a bit noisy at the end, as darkness fell here but was good at the start.<br><br>73<br>Dave <br clear="all"><br>-- <br>G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK<br>

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Hi Gary, LF!

Tell me pse, what is a signal I can see some time into G4WGT grabber?

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I've powered down at 11.55z to give the Tx a rest and go to the Bedfordshire
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G'day All,

I can't believe why you guys get so steamed up about Mal's comments. 
Surely you know Mal is a troll (internet term - look it up...).

If you don't believe me go to link below - its official....

http://www.warcraftrealms.com/char/7964283

Note the Guild name....

Seriously - Mal has a right to express an opinion (perhaps not in UPPER 
CASE..), and everyone has a right to respond - but just be aware he is a 
troll.   You can rise to the bait or not - your choice.   As a fisherman 
nothing gives Mal more pleasure than a bite (including, I suspect, this 
one).

Mal and I go back a long way - he has amused me for longer than I can 
remember.    So much so I have kept a record of some of his "gems".    He 
has been trying for the Worked All Northern Continents award for years now.

Here are a few of my personal favourite quotes (taking from the PUBLIC 
record, not from personal communications with me old china plate).

 ****Taken during Mal's QRSS/computer/digital bashing stage....*****

"To date all qrss activity that I have seen could be
copied on normal aural cw at my qth. I suppose if one has a poor
antenna, low power and a noisy qth then maybe qrss is the only way if
you must work on 136 khz. Fortunately I do not have these problems.
73 de Mal/G3KEV"

"Qrss is discouraging experimenters from improving their antennas,
receivers and associated equipment to make a normal aural qso. It is also
encouraging nodding off (sleeping) during the hours that it takes to get a
MMM.
OOO, OXO etc
I hope the lazy mans cw will not prevail above 20 khz !!!
73 de Mal/G3KEV"

"Suggested awards for those long haul qso's across the atlantic.

Grade 1......
Grade 2.....
Grade 3  Those using a sophisticated computer generated mode like very slow
cw,...
Good Luck de G3KEV"

"At present it seems to be the TAIL WAGGING THE DOG with the few trying to
convince the rest of us that we should go to psk, lazy mans cw generated and
displayed by a video monitor, or long long dashes on high power causing qrm
to the rest of potential users of the band
Critic/G3KEV"

*****Look familiar ?    Remember this is from years ago.******

*****Then Mal had a conversion....  starts out with lower case qrs and 
builds to an upper case QRS....*****

"Considering the bandwith constraints on both 73 and 136 khz the most
efficient method is normal CW whether it be qrs or normal speed where
applicable.
...
My suggestion as previously stated it to learn and operate conventional
CW and know your appropriate Q codes and use QRS or normal speed as
appropriate.
73 De G3KEV"

"I tried some 60 sec dot qrs last night for a short time around 2330...

The old system worked very well when everyone was on QRS side by side
73 and Happy New Year to all de Mal/G3KEV"

"...or any advantage
over QRS which takes the minimum bandwith of all the modes to achieve the
object on a very narrow band.

the only suitable mode for this
band is CW, normal speed and QRS.
G3KEV"

"Thanks John for the confirmation that my signals were visible and readable 
last
night.  I will be on tonight at the same time 2300 - 0200 approx same qrg 
135.922
khz and QRS 60 sec dots.
de Mal/G3KEV"

"Yes I would like the screen shots please.
de Mal/G3KEV"


So - cut Mal some slack.   He is almost always right - its just he is always 
a few years behind everyone else.

WSPR is just Mal's latest whipping post.    You can choose to be tied to it 
or not....

73 Steve VK2ZTO




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Nice signal Jim,

Just  found AGV  had removed dimension 4 from my pc .luckily not the one 
that runs the  tx ..
something on the  web site about a glitch in agv   fine hihi

G ..

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>
> Dear LF Group,
>
> The M0BMU WSPR beacon is running again tonight 0n 503.975kHz (502.4k "dial
> frequency"). Any reports are very welcome. Also a very strong signal from
> SM6BHZ tonight.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
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Hi Dave

 

Thanks for reports from Windsor!

 

With best regards

 

 

Jim

 

 

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Subject: LF: RE: G3XBM's 500kHz QRPp WSPR beacon running again

 

Hi, Roger.

 

Nothing heard to date, but I'll be listening overnight. Only Jim so far.

 

1746 -11  0.6   0.503945 -1 G7NKS IO92 27
1758 -10  0.8   0.503943  0 G7NKS IO92 27
1810 -11  0.4   0.503942  0 G7NKS IO92 27
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1906 -20  0.6   0.503965  0 G7NKS IO92 27

 

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Roger Lapthorn
Sent: 18 September 2009 16:42
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Subject: LF: G3XBM's 500kHz QRPp WSPR beacon running again

My 500kHz beacon has just been turned back on again. Any reports or
screenshots would be appreciated.  It would be lovely to have some reports
from a few new stations too and I'd just love to get >100kms with the
current QRP set-up.

73s
Roger
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http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'fo=
nt-size:10.0pt; font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></fon=
t></b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;fon=
t-family:Tahoma'> owner-<st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blac=
ksheep.org</st1:PersonName> [mailto:owner-<st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">=
rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</st1:PersonName>] <b><span style=3D'font-=
weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Dave G3WCB<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 18 September 2009=
 20:14<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:s=
t=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> LF: RE: G3XBM'=
s 500kHz
QRPp WSPR beacon running again</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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 to date, but I'll be
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 0.6&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503945 -1
G7NKS IO92 27<br>
1758 -10&nbsp; 0.8&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503943&nbsp; 0 G7NKS IO92 27<br>
1810 -11&nbsp; 0.4&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503942&nbsp; 0 G7NKS IO92 27<br>
1822 -12&nbsp; 0.7&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503942 -1 G7NKS IO92 27<br>
1834 -13&nbsp; 0.6&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503942&nbsp; 0 G7NKS IO92 27<br>
1842 -13&nbsp; 0.9&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503951&nbsp; 1 G7NKS IO92 27<br>
1850 -13&nbsp; 0.5&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503956&nbsp; 0 G7NKS IO92 27<br>
1858 -19&nbsp; 1.0&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503960&nbsp; 0 G7NKS IO92 27<br>
1906 -20&nbsp; 0.6&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503965&nbsp; 0 G7NKS IO92 27</span></=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3D2 fac=
e=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Or=
iginal Message-----<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> owner-<st1:Person=
Name w:st=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</st1:PersonName>
[mailto:owner-<st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=
</st1:PersonName>]<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </s=
pan></b>Roger Lapthorn<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 18 September 2009=
 16:42<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:s=
t=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> LF: G3XBM's 50=
0kHz QRPp
WSPR beacon running again</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'>My 500kHz beacon has just been turned back on=
 again. Any reports or
screenshots would be appreciated.&nbsp; It would be lovely to have som=
e reports
from a few new stations too and I'd just love to get &gt;100kms with=
 the
current QRP set-up.<br>
<br>
73s<br>
Roger<br>
-- <br>
-------------------------------------------------------------<br>
<a href=3D"http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/">http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.c=
om/</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.g3xbm.co.uk">http://www.g3xbm.co.uk</a><br>
G3XBM &nbsp; &nbsp;GQRP 1678 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;ISWL G11088<o:p></o:p=
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Warren,

QRN was 25-30dB above normal last night and you can't turn the AGC off on=
 the HF250, so not surprisingly nothing heard.
Will try again Sunday evening.

73
John F5VLF

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On 26/09/2009 at 08:41 John RABSON wrote:

>Thank you, Warren.  I will try again this evening and see if I can get a
>screen capture.
>
>73
>John F5VLF
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>On 25/09/2009 at 16:40 Warren Ziegler wrote:
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>>John,
>>
>>   XGJ  is on 137.7798 here but sunset is not until 22:30 UTC.
>>
>>--=20
>>73 Warren K2ORS
>>                WD2XGJ
>>                WD2XSH/23
>>                WE2XEB/2
>>                WE2XGR/1
>>
>>On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 3:29 PM, John RABSON <john.rabson@numeo.fr> wrot=
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>>> At 1928z.
>>>
>>> F5VLF
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>>>
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>>>





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Hi All,
I don't understand some of these comments about critical set up, frequ=
ency etc. I just downloaded the program, connected to the RX and it wo=
rked. Could it be because Jim is extremely strong here? I can tune +/-=
 200Hz off and it still decodes. I haven't worked out if/how it 'locks=
' to the signal. Maybe it would not be possible to receive a nearby we=
aker signal??
I find some of the documentation a bit daunting, has anybody written=
 a simple explanation of how to set the system up properly?
Not sure how useful it would be in reality for a QSO, inclined to thin=
k CW would be the best bet. Seems very limited as is.
Vy 73, Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent, JO01MI.

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I don't understand some of these comm=
ents about=20
critical set up, frequency&nbsp;etc. I just downloaded the program, co=
nnected to=20
the RX and it worked. Could it be because Jim is extremely strong here=
? I can=20
tune +/- 200Hz off and it still decodes. I haven't worked out if/how=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I find some of the documentation a bi=
t daunting,=20
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ality for a=20
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Dear Jay, John, LF Group,

WE2XGR/2 was received continuously here between about midnight and 0400utc. 
The time required to decode varied from 576 seconds down to 96s:

2009-09-12 03:05:17 >WOLF10 -r 8000.128 -f 1500 -t 1.0 -d 12 -w 0.0000

t: 24 f: 0.914 a:-0.8 dp: 85.3 ci: 0 cj: 0 K*D4SFHGUW/0C9V ?

t: 48 f: 0.918 a:-1.0 dp: 82.6 ci: 0 cj: 0 CALLV2YD2ZFMYC7 ?

t: 96 f: 0.117 a:-0.2 dp: 79.7 ci:15 cj:385 WE2XGR/2 FN31IS -

t: 192 f: 0.117 pm:87.25 jm:191 q: -1.8 -0.6 WE2XGR/2 FN31IS -

t: 288 f: 0.117 pm:123.2 jm:191 q: 0.2 -0.1 WE2XGR/2 FN31IS -

t: 384 f: 0.117 pm:135.9 jm:191 q: 0.2 0.3 WE2XGR/2 FN31IS -

etc.

WE2XGR/3 was decoded on the second attempt out of two between my getting 
home and John going QRT:

2009-09-12 02:17:28 >WOLF10 -r 8000.125 -f 1700 -t 1.0 -d 12 -w 0.0000

t: 24 f: 0.295 a: 1.0 dp: 81.4 ci: 8 cj: 17 WENJFE9ONA8IO/C ?

t: 48 f: 0.295 a: 1.0 dp: 78.0 ci:13 cj:344 SZ5R3DCTZU8NVD/ ?

t: 96 f:-0.146 a: 0.5 dp: 75.3 ci: 8 cj:233 BTX/IFWE46PRNY3 ?

t: 192 f: 0.107 pm:9.342 jm:629 q: -9.5 -6.4 R*/UUYX O7XT682 -

t: 288 f: 0.107 pm:28.35 jm:629 q: -3.6 -4.1 WE2XGR/3 FN42CH -

t: 384 f: 0.107 pm:58.49 jm:629 q: -0.5 -0.8 WE2XGR/3 FN42CH -

t: 480 f: 0.107 pm:63.41 jm:629 q: -0.3 -0.3 WE2XGR/3 FN42CH -

t: 576 f: 0.107 pm:76.69 jm:629 q: 0.7 0.1 WE2XGR/3 FN42CH -

t: 672 f: 0.107 pm:77.39 jm:629 q: 0.3 -0.2 WE2XGR/3 FN42CH -

t: 768 f: 0.107 pm:90.35 jm:629 q: 1.5 0.5 WE2XGR/3 FN42CH -

t: 864 f: 0.107 pm:95.17 jm:629 q: 2.7 1.7 WE2XGR/3 FN42CH -

t: 960 f: 0.107 pm:119.3 jm:629 q: 3.7 3.0 WE2XGR/3 FN42CH -

t:1056 f: 0.107 pm:126.8 jm:629 q: 4.2 3.2 WE2XGR/3 FN42CH -

t:1152 f: 0.107 pm:129.2 jm:629 q: 4.4 3.3 WE2XGR/3 FN42CH -

t:1248 f: 0.107 pm:129.6 jm:629 q: 4.3 3.2 WE2XGR/3 FN42CH -

Both signals were occasionally visible for a few minutes at a time as a 
faint blur on a spectrogram display, but were not audible at all while I was 
listening. The QRN was quite noisy overnight.

I was quite pleased to be able to successfully receive the two beacons, 
since I have been having problems since the start of this year with broad 
band noise that appears to originate from the broadcast stations several 
hundred meters east of here. The noise can be nulled with a simple loop, but 
of course this also nulls W/VE signals coming from the west. I have now set 
up a broad-band loop/vertical/phasing unit system to produce a cardioid 
pattern with a single null in an easterly direction, which seems to be 
reasonably successful.

Cheers, Jim Moritz

73 de M0BMU



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Hi Gus,

very good condx tonight.
       2009-09-15 19:42   SM6BHZ   0.503925   +13   0   JO57wq   1   DL4RAJ   JN68kj   1035 
176
       2009-09-15 19:40   SM6BHZ   0.503925   +13   0   JO57wq   1   DL4RAJ   JN68kj   1035 
176
       2009-09-15 19:38   SM6BHZ   0.503925   +13   0   JO57wq   1   DL4RAJ   JN68kj   1035 
176
       2009-09-15 19:36   SM6BHZ   0.503925   +12   0   JO57wq   1   DL4RAJ   JN68kj   1035 
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Clemens
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Steve
I am not from Yorkshire and therefore the Yorkshire accent is non 
applicable.
POME = PRISONER OF OLD MOTHER ENGLAND and that is also non applicacable.
We have strayed away from LF/MF time to get back on track What is WSPR doing 
for AUSTRALIA?
G3KEV

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> G'day Mal,
>
> Still reeling 'em in I see.
>
>
>>
>> I have heard a lot worse said about POME'S from AUS sources over the
>> years.
>>
>
> Nah - I'm not a POME-basher, sorry I can't give you that out.   Some of my
> best friends are POMs.    Good bunch of chaps in my experience.
>
>>
>> Glad that I am not a POME.
>>
>
> Don't worry - you are not - rest assured you are in a class completely of
> your own.
>
>>
>> de G3KEV now back to pounding the morse key, 20 metres looks good at
>> present.
>>
>
> I hope "morse key" is not a euphemism.....
>
> As the actress said to the ham operator..."Is that a morse key I see in 
> your
> hand - or are you just pleased to see me ?".... ;-)
>
> Keep throwing out the bait....
>
> BTW - for my own entertainment I have been listening to some Yorkshire
> accents from the BBC.    Don't know whether you are a native speaker of 
> them
> thar parts, but blimey mate, I thought 'strine was hard for non-Aussies to
> understand until I heard a Yorkshire accent.   If you are a native speaker 
> I
> can fully understand why you would prefer CW and emails.    That mode is
> excellent for allowing foreign speakers to understand each other - even
> across counties.
>
> Nice to hook up with you again.
>
> 73 Steve
>
>


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All of 3kms away (whoa DX!!) but I just got my first WSPR report on 500kHz:

 2009-09-13 20:04  G3XBM  0.503908  -6  0  JO02dg  0.001  G6ALB  JO02dg  0
 0   2009-09-13 20:02  G3XBM  0.503910  -12  -1  JO02dg  0.001  G6ALB
 JO02dg  0  0
At least the signal is getting across the fields at the back of the house.
Andrew G6ALB is in the next village. You can see by my report that I have a
LOT of work to do....

73s
Roger G3XBM
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<td align=3D"right"><font size=3D"2">=A0-1=A0</font></td><td align=3D"left=
"><font size=3D"2">=A0JO02dg=A0</font></td><td align=3D"right"><font size=
=3D"2">=A00.001=A0</font></td><td align=3D"left"><font size=3D"2">=A0G6ALB=
=A0</font></td><td align=3D"left">
<font size=3D"2">=A0JO02dg=A0</font></td><td align=3D"right"><font size=3D=
"2">=A00=A0</font></td><td align=3D"right"><font size=3D"2">=A00=A0</font>=
</td></tr></tbody></table><br clear=3D"all">At least the signal is getting=
 across the fields at the back of the house. Andrew G6ALB is in the next=
 village. You can see by my report that I have a LOT of work to do....<br>
<br>73s<br>Roger G3XBM<br>-- <br>-----------------------------------------=
--------------------<br><a href=3D"http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/">http://=
g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.g3xbm.co.uk">http://w=
ww.g3xbm.co.uk</a><br>
G3XBM =A0 =A0GQRP 1678 =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL G11088<br>

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I forgot to say the beacon shut down at about 0700utc...

----- Original Message ----- 
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> Dear LF Group,
>
> Thanks to all for the overnight reports/decodes. I also set my RX to 
> listen for WD2XES on 137.577k, but no decodes here - perhaps not suprising 
> considering the level of QRN!
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
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>
> 



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Good evening John
Can you give me your conditions of reception in any case thank you for 
control at the moment I can not go below 20w hi ..
thank you again
F8boj Claude JN16WA
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> Still 30dB over and 569 by ear at 1545z.
>
> F5VLF
>
> *********** BEGIN FORWARDED MESSAGE  ***********
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> On 22/09/2009 at 17:35 John RABSON <john.rabson@numeo.fr> wrote:
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>>At 1532z.
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>>F5VLF
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Servus Markus!

Thank you very much for the information. The signal is not audible here,
at least not with my equipment but maybe if I switch to a short update
time I could decode it visually.

SchĂśne GrĂźĂe und Danke

Gerhard



Am Dienstag, den 29.09.2009, 12:10 -0400 schrieb Markus Vester:
> Dear Gerhard,
>  
> it's a CW beacon from DF5QZ, operating in a continuous loop near
> 137.14 kHz. Good aural copy in Nuernberg when the band is quiet.
>  
> Best 73,
> Markus, DF6NM 
> 
> 
> -----UrsprĂźngliche Mitteilung----- 
> Von: Gerhard Hickl <gerhard.hickl@aon.at>
> An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Verschickt: Di., 29. Sept. 2009, 17:23
> Thema: LF: Signal on 137140
> 
> Hello Group!
> 
> I haven't followed the list very closely recently and so I might have
> missed something.
> 
> Could anybody please tell me what kind of signal is permanently on
> 137140? (Always visible on the DF6NM-grabber)
> 
> It seems to be modulated in some way and I have heard it is WSPR.
> Though I can receive this signal in JN88HL, WSPR-software failed to
> decode.
> 
> Thanks in advance and
> 
> Cheers
> OE3GHB
> Gerhard Hickl
> 



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Jim,

one single spot last night on the K9AY with Perseus SDR-RX:

      Timestamp Call MHz SNR Drift Grid Pwr Reporter RGrid km az
       2009-09-24 02:00   M0BMU   0.137090   +11   0   IO91vr   0.2   DL4RAJ   JN68kj   1003 
107


73
Clemens
DL4RAJ



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Dennis wrote:
> 
> Who started transmitting on 503.92 at exactly 22:00Z?
> Nice signal in Berlin!

Dennis,

I guess that's Gus SM6BHZ using WSPR mode.

John
GM4SLV


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Sorry, pressed "send" too soon by accident!

Dear Graham, LF Group,

> As the  European allocation looks to  be  wider than the  Uk, are we 
> expecting the  UK 3 Khz  allocation to  remain as is, if  and when the 
> band is formalised ?, in which case loosing 200 hz may not be the  most 
> sensible option ...

As I understand it, there are not yet any formal Europe-wide proposals, just 
what individual regulators have allocated on a case-by-case basis. I think 
G, EI, and ON have all allocated 501 - 504. The DL beacons and OK0EMW are 
licenced to use spot frequencies around 505kHz. Gus SM6BHZ would be able to 
use 504.0 - 504.1kHz.

But the main thing is whether we over here should transmit around 504kHz as 
we are now, or shift to near 501kHz to share a common WSPR segment with the 
US. On one hand, keeping to near 504k would have the advantage of no strong 
signals in band for those trying to receive US stations. But on the other 
hand, it might mean we get QRMed by "general comms" US stations for those 
trying to receive us, and anyone wanting to receive both US and EU stations 
would need two receivers/soundcards, etc.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU



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No luck last night Roger. Just Jim and Jim. You need to have a go at your
antenna when you get back!



0640 -12  2.8   0.503956  0 G7NKS IO92 27

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0706  14  2.1   0.503841  0 M0BMU IO91 33

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
  -----Original Message-----
  From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Roger Lapthorn
  Sent: 18 September 2009 23:01
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
  Subject: LF: 500kHz QRPp WSPR overnight


  Tonight is probably my last chance to receive any new WSPR reports before
I go on holiday, so I'll leave the beacon running until around 8am UK time
tomorrow on 33% TX. If there are any night owls around, I'd appreciate a few
receivers staying on 500kHz just in case you might hear me.

  73s
  Roger G3XBM

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  http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/
  http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
  G3XBM    GQRP 1678      ISWL G11088

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Dear Nicolas, John, LF Group,

Thanks for the info Nicolas - Hope Marcin and co. can get the problem fixed 
soon.

There does not seem to be much happening on 137.7k, so I am now transmitting 
in WSPR mode on 137.530k (136.0k "dial frequency", or 136.1k if you prefer). 
Hopefully, the beacon will run overnight - any spots of  WD2XES or others 
will be uploaded to the WSPR database.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU 



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Hi Chris.

The mode is QRSS 3. i.e. slow CW with 1 dot - 3 sec, dash = 9 sec. I use
ARGO or Spectrum Lab to receive (PC soundcard) and QRS v4,02 to key the TX.
All freeware from various authors. See Dave's web-page for links.
http://www.wireless.org.uk/software.htm


73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor.
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  Which mode is being used on 137.740 please??
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Thanks Roman - 777 is getting a little busy!  Anatol was a good clear visu=
al signal at 5166 Kms even with nasty QRN last nite here. Conditions seem=
 pretty good with DCF39 coming up to its late Autumn levels already as the=
 path darkens...

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Laurence OM89UA
 > Hi Laurence!
> 100% UA4WPF! fine business!
> I'm read his message in RUS-DW yahoo-group.
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> -I can make an beacon at 18 up to 19 sep 2009 tonight.
> >>beacon (W_--) DFCW 240 F=3D137.77725 18 - 02 UTC Loc.LO66PU
> >>73!
> >>Anatol
> >>UA4WPF
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Dear LF Group,

Am now QRV in WSPR mode on 503.975kHz, 502.4kHz "dial frequency". Also good 
signals from G4WGT, G0NBD, and SM6BHZ at the moment. I see Gary and Graham 
seem  to be on exactly the same frequency, so will double occasionally. Any 
reports would be very welcome.

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Dropped to 33% DutyCycle - the fan on the PA had kicked-in and I prefer to
keep things so the fan only comes on for Tx periods in hot weather.

WSPR Power still -6dB

Andy
www.g4jnt.com

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2009/9/19 James Moritz <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>

> Dear Andy,
>
> Looking, well, nominal here...
>
>
> 1206  -1  1.6   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
> 1210  -1  1.2   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
> 1214  -1  0.2   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
> 1222  -1  0.2   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
> 1226  -1  0.2   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
> 1228  -1  0.1   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
>
> ... spots are being uploaded to WSPRnet.org database.
>
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
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<div>Dropped to 33% DutyCycle - the fan=A0on the PA had kicked-in and I pr=
efer=A0to keep=A0things so the fan=A0only=A0comes on=A0for Tx periods=A0in=
=A0hot weather.=A0=A0 </div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>WSPR Power still -6dB</div>
<div><br clear=3D"all">Andy<br><a href=3D"http://www.g4jnt.com">www.g4jnt.=
com</a><br><br>this email has been scanned for political correctness by th=
e nanny state<br><br><br></div>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/9/19 James Moritz <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:james.moritz@btopenworld.com">james.moritz@btopenworld.com=
</a>&gt;</span><br>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8e=
x; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">Dear Andy,<br><br>Looking, wel=
l, nominal here...<br><br><br>1206 =A0-1 =A01.6 =A0 0.503850 =A00 G4JNT IO=
90 23<br>1210 =A0-1 =A01.2 =A0 0.503850 =A00 G4JNT IO90 23<br>
1214 =A0-1 =A00.2 =A0 0.503850 =A00 G4JNT IO90 23<br>1222 =A0-1 =A00.2 =A0=
 0.503850 =A00 G4JNT IO90 23<br>1226 =A0-1 =A00.2 =A0 0.503850 =A00 G4JNT=
 IO90 23<br>1228 =A0-1 =A00.1 =A0 0.503850 =A00 G4JNT IO90 23<br><br>...=
 spots are being uploaded to WSPRnet.org database.=20
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<div class=3D"h5"><br><br>Cheers, Jim Moritz<br>73 de M0BMU<br><br></div><=
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Dear Mal, LF Group,

Struggling or not, I could consistently copy both the other beacons here, 
and received reports via the WSPRnet database from 17 different receiving 
stations in 7 countries, so not too shabby.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU

>....

All WSPR signals last evening struggling in QRN/QRS whereas they were 
audible here and if in CW mode I could easily have made a real time QSO.
decode was marginal, and then the same old repetive rubbish.
g3kev




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Thanks for this John. I am not one to give up easily, HI, so will keep
trying until it's sorted.

Unfortunately I have to catch a plane very early tomorrow morning so my
efforts for tonight must stop shortly, but I shall try your suggestion for
calibration and try again at the weekend if Jim or others are on WOLF..

Incidentally, WSPR I found exceedingly easy on this PC - perhaps I was
lucky.

73s
Roger G3XBM

2009/9/10 John P-G <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk>

> Roger Lapthorn wrote:
>
>> Well, easy for some (I can see) but NOT for me. What am I doing wrong?
>>
>>
>
> Roger,
>
> Unfortunately I don't think I can help, as I'm a total novice at WOLF, so
> can't really come up with any quick fixes!
>
> All I did was set the centre frequency to match the USB tuning offset -
> tune low 1kHz to 502.5 and set centre frequency to 1000Hz.
>
> I think pretty much everything else standard.
>
> Looking at my version I see that under "Mode"... I have "Receive Only"
> ticked, "WOLF 10[symbols/sec] " ---> "Normal Speed" ticked.
>
> That's all I've done initially and it worked. Lawrence in China suggested I
> try to calibrate my soundcard, so I followed his suggestion.
>
> I know, as has been discussed before, that WSPR is often touchy about
> soundcard sampling rates and string signals.
>
> Don't know if WOLF is the same.
>
> But at least can adjust for this in the software with WOLF though.
>
> Tune to 197kHz in USB mode. THe Radio 4 carrier should be at 1kHz. If
> you've chosen a 1kHz centre frequency, on the WOLF Config tab there's a
> button marked "Cal" in the receive options area. Press it. It will work out
> a correction factor for your soundcard. I think you're then asked to accept
> the value offerred... do this and then start again. See if this fixes
> things.
>
> As Dave YMC rightly comments - this might be one to try and then forget,
> although it seems (of setup correctly) to be quite sensitive.
>
> Cheers,
>
> John
> GM4SLV
>
>
>
>
>


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Thanks for this John. I am not one to give up easily, HI, so will keep try=
ing until it&#39;s sorted. <br><br>Unfortunately I have to catch a plane=
 very early tomorrow morning so my efforts for tonight must stop shortly,=
 but I shall try your suggestion for calibration and try again at the week=
end if Jim or others are on WOLF..<br>
<br>Incidentally, WSPR I found exceedingly easy on this PC - perhaps I was=
 lucky.<br><br>73s<br>Roger G3XBM <br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/=
9/10 John P-G <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gm4slv@sighthound.de=
mon.co.uk">gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk</a>&gt;</span><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204,=
 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div class=3D"i=
m">Roger Lapthorn wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204,=
 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Well, easy for some (I can see) but NOT for me. What am I doing wrong?<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
<br></div>
Roger,<br>
<br>
Unfortunately I don&#39;t think I can help, as I&#39;m a total novice at=
 WOLF, so can&#39;t really come up with any quick fixes!<br>
<br>
All I did was set the centre frequency to match the USB tuning offset - tu=
ne low 1kHz to 502.5 and set centre frequency to 1000Hz.<br>
<br>
I think pretty much everything else standard.<br>
<br>
Looking at my version I see that under &quot;Mode&quot;... I have &quot;Re=
ceive Only&quot; ticked, &quot;WOLF 10[symbols/sec] &quot; ---&gt; &quot;N=
ormal Speed&quot; ticked.<br>
<br>
That&#39;s all I&#39;ve done initially and it worked. Lawrence in China su=
ggested I try to calibrate my soundcard, so I followed his suggestion.<br>
<br>
I know, as has been discussed before, that WSPR is often touchy about soun=
dcard sampling rates and string signals.<br>
<br>
Don&#39;t know if WOLF is the same.<br>
<br>
But at least can adjust for this in the software with WOLF though.<br>
<br>
Tune to 197kHz in USB mode. THe Radio 4 carrier should be at 1kHz. If you&=
#39;ve chosen a 1kHz centre frequency, on the WOLF Config tab there&#39;s=
 a button marked &quot;Cal&quot; in the receive options area. Press it. It=
 will work out a correction factor for your soundcard. I think you&#39;re=
 then asked to accept the value offerred... do this and then start again.=
 See if this fixes things.<br>

<br>
As Dave YMC rightly comments - this might be one to try and then forget,=
 although it seems (of setup correctly) to be quite sensitive.<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
<br>
John<br>
GM4SLV<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>----------------------=
---------------------------------------<br><a href=3D"http://g3xbm-qrp.blo=
gspot.com/">http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.g3=
xbm.co.uk">http://www.g3xbm.co.uk</a><br>
G3XBM =A0 =A0GQRP 1678 =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL G11088<br>

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Had 13 hits on SM6BHZ overnight, and <ta-da> 2 hits on M0BMU (both late 
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I'm in the last stages of modifying my beacon to include a WSPR transmission
that will run pseudo-simultaneously with the 15 minute regular one at
503.7kHz

It has turned out to be posible to fit all the code into one controller PIC
which simplifies the hardware considerably - the only downside is that the
PSK31 message length has had to be shortened by a few characters to be able
to get the additional WSPR symbol and frequency information into the EEPROM
area of the PIC.

I've included to option to be able to transmit the WSPR signal at a lower
amplitude than the 15 minute beacon, and the pseudo random timing is
anything but - it has been chosen to fit round the 15 minute intervals, and
preferably not adjacent to them.

Before I programme-up the actual beacon Tx, can I have some suggestion on
the frequency that would be best to avoid existing users, and what sort of
power to adopt, bearing in mind the main Tx runs at about 100 Watts of RF
giving somewhere in the region of 24dBm ERP.  Also some idea of a duty cycle
to use - 50% is the maximum I've allowed for.

Andy
www.g4jnt.com

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<div>I&#39;m in the=A0last stages of modifying=A0my beacon=A0to include a=
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ute regular one at 503.7kHz</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>It has turned out to=A0be posible to fit all the code into one contro=
ller PIC which simplifies the hardware considerably - the only downside is=
 that the PSK31 message length has had to be shortened by a few characters=
 to be able to get the additional WSPR symbol and frequency information in=
to the EEPROM area of the PIC.</div>

<div>=A0</div>
<div>I&#39;ve included to option to be able to transmit the WSPR signal at=
 a lower amplitude than the 15 minute beacon, and the pseudo random timing=
 is anything but - it has=A0been chosen to fit round the 15 minute interva=
ls, and preferably not=A0adjacent to them.=A0=A0</div>

<div>=A0</div>
<div>Before I programme-up the actual beacon Tx, can I have some suggestio=
n on the frequency that would be best to avoid existing users, and what so=
rt of power to adopt,=A0bearing in mind the main Tx=A0runs at=A0about 100=
 Watts of RF giving somewhere in the region of 24dBm ERP.=A0 Also=A0some=
 idea of a duty cycle to use - 50% is the maximum I&#39;ve allowed for.</d=
iv>

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* Gus <begu@algonet.se> [Thu, 24 Sep 2009 22:31:02 +0200]:
> To little band with !! :-))
>
> de Gus

500-508 it is possible for AM/FM -)

>
> ----- Original Message -----
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Thanks John

I will have a look at that ....

G ..


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From: "John P-G" <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk>
Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2009 12:38 AM
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>
> G
>
> Try running the real NTP server rather than Dimension 4?
>
> http://www.meinberg.de/english/sw/ntp.htm
>
> Runs as an XP service and it's "the real thing" rather than a clock
> tweaker like Dimension 4
>
> J
>
>
>
> Graham wrote:
>> Nice signal Jim,
>>
>> Just  found AGV  had removed dimension 4 from my pc .luckily not the one
>> that runs the  tx ..
>> something on the  web site about a glitch in agv   fine hihi
>>
>> G ..
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "James Moritz" <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>
>> Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 9:48 PM
>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Subject: LF: WSPR beacon
>>
>>> Dear LF Group,
>>>
>>> The M0BMU WSPR beacon is running again tonight 0n 503.975kHz (502.4k 
>>> "dial
>>> frequency"). Any reports are very welcome. Also a very strong signal 
>>> from
>>> SM6BHZ tonight.
>>>
>>> Cheers, Jim Moritz
>>> 73 de M0BMU
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>
>



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Dear Gus, LF Group
This evening very strong copy your WSPR beacon:

2158   6  0.2   0.503951  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2206   3  0.9   0.503951  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2214   7  1.0   0.503951  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2222   1  0.9   0.503951  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2232   2  0.9   0.503951  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2236  10  0.8   0.503951  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2242   9  0.8   0.503951  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40

Maximum signal +10dB !
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Hi Lubos,

I'm using WSPR v.1.12_r1177.
Under bands I choose "others".
I can dial 0.xxx without problems.

73
Clemens
DL4RAJ
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Lubos OK2BVG
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  Hello Clemens!
  My WSPR v.1.12 doesn´t work below 1MHz (= dial frq). It is the reason, why I use dial 
frequency 1.502500. Is there any "trick", how to set 0.502500?

  Thanks in advance!

  Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS


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  Lubos,

  >1.503925

  you may want to check your indicated frequency.

  73
  Clemens
  DL4RAJ
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    Hello LF!

    2240  -5  1.1   1.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 33
    2240 -25  0.4   1.503950  0 M0LMH IO93 20
    2244 -24  0.9   1.503911  0 G4WGT IO83 27

    Lubos, OK2BVG


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Hi Lubos,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>I'm using WSPR v.1.12_r1177.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Under bands I choose "others".</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>I can dial 0.xxx without problems.</FONT></DIV=
>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>73<BR>Clemens<BR>DL4RAJ</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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 black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dbvgbob@hotmail.com href=3D"mailto:bvgbob@hotmail.com">Lub=
os OK2BVG</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@=
blacksheep.org     href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_l=
f_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, September 20,=
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: WSPR_SET</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>Hello Clemens!<BR>My WSPR v.1.12 doesn=B4t work below=
 1MHz (=3D=20
  dial frq). It is the reason, why I use dial frequency 1.502500. Is=
 there any=20
  "trick", how to set 0.502500?<BR><BR>Thanks in advance!<BR><BR>Lubos=
, OK2BVG,=20
  JN88KS<BR><BR>
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  From: <A href=3D"mailto:cpaul@gmx.net">cpaul@gmx.net</A><BR>To: <A=
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Lubos,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>&gt;1.503925&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>you may want to check your indicated=20
  frequency.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>73<BR>Clemens<BR>DL4RAJ</FONT></DIV>
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l; moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial"><B>From:</B>=20
    <A title=3Dbvgbob@hotmail.com href=3D"mailto:bvgbob@hotmail.com">L=
ubos=20
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    <DIV       style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none; font=
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    LF: WSPR</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>Hello LF!<BR><BR>2240&nbsp; -5&nbsp; 1.1&nbsp;&nbsp=
;=20
    1.503925&nbsp; 0 SM6BHZ JO57 33<BR>2240 -25&nbsp; 0.4&nbsp;&nbsp;=
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    1.503950&nbsp; 0 M0LMH IO93 20<BR>2244 -24&nbsp; 0.9&nbsp;&nbsp;=
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    1.503911&nbsp; 0 G4WGT IO83 27<BR><BR>Lubos, OK2BVG<BR><BR>
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Yes, I'll leave the WSPR signal running tonight John.

So far only G6ALB and G3XVL have reported the signal, but maybe the noise
floor will drop during the night and a few more might discern the tiny
signal.  I am enjoying this SO much and wish I'd done this much sooner, but
I only discovered WSPR a few weeks ago.

73s
Roger G3XBM


2009/9/13 John P-G <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk>

> Roger Lapthorn wrote:
>
>> If you could SEE my TX,  "antenna" and ATU you would realise how amazed I
>> am
>> at this report from G3XVL. My antenna is literally 15m of low horizontal
>> wire with about 2m of it vertical, a central heating ground and an ATU on
>> the bedroom table made from a ferrite rod and fed with 700mW from a
>> 2N3906/2N3904. This proves that 500kHz is possible with a
>> *really*minimalist station. I can only imagine what will be possible
>> with some
>> effort on my part.
>>
>
>
> Roger!
>
> Well done - it just shows what can be done with RF and a piece of wire....
>
> Assuming your ERP to be around the ~mW level we might be in with a chance
> even up to Shetland, given some suitable conditions.
>
> I've been doing some tests on 5MHz recently and have been receiving
> stations using TX powers in the milliwat, and sub-milliwatt, range.
>
> I've received G4ZFQ using TX power of 0.3mW at a range of 1061km.
>
> Obviously it's not fair to directly compare 5MHz and 500kHz - at least it
> shows what can be done with really low ERP.
>
> Please leave the WSPR running overnight and let's see what turns up in the
> wee small hours.
>
> Cheers,
>
> John
> GM4SLV
>
>
>
>


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Yes, I&#39;ll leave the WSPR signal running tonight John. <br><br>So far=
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 will drop during the night and a few more might discern the tiny signal.=
=A0 I am enjoying this SO much and wish I&#39;d done this much sooner, but=
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<br>73s<br>Roger G3XBM<br><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/9/13 Joh=
n P-G <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.u=
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<div class=3D"im">Roger Lapthorn wrote:<br>
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If you could SEE my TX, =A0&quot;antenna&quot; and ATU you would realise=
 how amazed I am<br>
at this report from G3XVL. My antenna is literally 15m of low horizontal<b=
r>
wire with about 2m of it vertical, a central heating ground and an ATU on<=
br>
the bedroom table made from a ferrite rod and fed with 700mW from a<br>
2N3906/2N3904. This proves that 500kHz is possible with a<br>
*really*minimalist station. I can only imagine what will be possible<br>
with some<br>
effort on my part.<br>
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<br>
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Roger!<br>
<br>
Well done - it just shows what can be done with RF and a piece of wire....=
<br>
<br>
Assuming your ERP to be around the ~mW level we might be in with a chance=
 even up to Shetland, given some suitable conditions.<br>
<br>
I&#39;ve been doing some tests on 5MHz recently and have been receiving st=
ations using TX powers in the milliwat, and sub-milliwatt, range.<br>
<br>
I&#39;ve received G4ZFQ using TX power of 0.3mW at a range of 1061km.<br>
<br>
Obviously it&#39;s not fair to directly compare 5MHz and 500kHz - at least=
 it shows what can be done with really low ERP.<br>
<br>
Please leave the WSPR running overnight and let&#39;s see what turns up in=
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<br>
Cheers,<br>
<br>
John<br>
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Roger,

I found Wolfgang, DL4YHF, has writting a GUI program to run WOLF 
(originally it was command line only) and it's available here:

http://freenet-homepage.de/dl4yhf/wolf/index.html

actual download URL:
http://freenet-homepage.de/dl4yhf/wolf/wolf_gui_060118.zip

I simply unzipped it and ran the WOLF_GUI.exe file.

I set the centre frequency to 1kHz (the tab "Wolf config" has settings 
for TX and RX centre frequency) and then back on the main tab clicked 
the "RX" button. Tune the RX in USB mode to 502.5000 and you should see 
a coloured line in the center of the waterfall (Jim's signal) then after 
12 seconds or so some decoded stuff should appear.

I can't help any more than that, yet.

Cheers,

John
GM4SLV
Shetland

Roger Lapthorn wrote:
> *Newbie help please.....*
> 
> As I'd like to try listening to the WOLF transmissions people are sending on
> 500kHz, can someone give me a link or two to *suitable software and
> installation instructions *please?  Is there the equivalent of K1JT's WSPR
> software than simply installs and runs? At this stage I am only interested
> in receiving.
> 
> I assume that a reasonable XP laptop and a SignaLink USB are all that I need
> in addition to my FT817, as for WSPR.
> 
> 73s
> Roger G3XBM
> 
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Dave,

I'm not sure if the  actual frequency error is critical to the  wspr system, 
from the problems I experienced last year with the  system, as the  quality 
of the  received transmission in terms of  signal to  noise was identified 
as the 'only' factor that determined the  ability of the  system to  decode.

As the  data would appear to be' array processed' with decodes extracted 
from a received 2 dimensional block of data, any frequency error is not 
significant, however it was discussed that the  possibility existed that the 
exact time interval of the  symbolisation 'frames' may be truncated by a 
sound card clock running 'fast'

This was proposed as an explanation to the  observed situation, where a 
strong constant  signal, resulting in the  reception of  a full set of  sync 
frames failed to decode, where as a signal from the  same station, 
considerably weaker either by a power  reduction or coinciding with a deep 
qsb fade produced a reliable  decode to the  systems lower  operating limit. 
By off air measurement of the  time frame, it  could be  observed that the 
transmission finished  some 2 seconds before the  end of expected period. 
switching to a usb card and re running the  test, resulted in the  correct 
time frame and 100% decode of a 'clean' stable signal.

The Initial card   M-Audio delta-4  ,  substitute card ADS-rdx-150, 
interestingly I have  used the  44khz AWE-64  isa soundcard for wspr 
recently and where as long range decodes looked to be reliable, Gary g4wgt 
who is some 25 miles , has noted a high percentage of failed decodes , but 
not a total failure as when the  delt-4 was used.

May be (we hope)  later  issue of wspr will have a clock check facility?

G .







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>
> I have been trying to work out why I have such bad copy of WOLF and
> WSPR (on HF as well as 500kHz) and others report it as 'plug and go'
> and came across a page at http://wsprnet.org/drupal/node/336 which
> explains the problem exactly. It seems that both WOLF and WSPR are
> designed for current sound cards which have 48,000 and 96,000 clock
> rates. Mine is obviously from the old stable so has 44,100 etc rates.
>
> For information it is the sound card interface built into the
> motherboard, an ASR Rock K7S41GX dating from 2003 with generic AC'97
> sound. Zilch more given about its spec in the manual.
>
> I did a test using a 40m broadcast carrier on 7355kHz, with the K2
> tuned to get a 1.5kHz tone.
>
> Argo reports it correctly at 1502Hz, pretty spot on
> Wolf (default 8000Hz sampling) reports 1553Hz
> WSPR (2000Hz sampling) reports 1534Hz
>
> Obviously the interpolation works differently for the different
> sampling rates of WOLF and WSPR but the effect is obvious.
>
> Being an older card there is no way it will support the 48,000 etc
> sampling rates natively, and there is certainly no switch. In Wolf I
> can play around with the calibration, but there seems no way to do this
> in WSPR.
>
> At least I now know why I, and presumably others, have problems.
>
> 73 Dave G3YMC
>
> http://www.davesergeant.com
>
>
>



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Hello all,

I am looking for information on the Siemens D 364 selective level meter.
A circuit diagram should be most welcome, but a block diagram should also  
be nice for a start.

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Just had these 2 reports. I am very surprised WSPR can detect these low S/N
levels...

 2009-09-17 08:12  G3XBM  0.503838  *-33*  1  JO02dg  0.001  G7NKS  IO92ub
 46  240   2009-09-17 07:56  G3XBM  0.503839 * -32*  0  JO02dg  0.001
 G7NKS  IO92ub  46  240
73s
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http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
G3XBM    GQRP 1678      ISWL G11088

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Just had these 2 reports. I am very surprised WSPR can detect these low S/=
N levels...<br><br><table><tbody><tr><td align=3D"right"><font size=3D"2">=
=A02009-09-17 08:12=A0</font></td><td align=3D"left"><font size=3D"2">=A0G=
3XBM=A0</font></td>
<td align=3D"right"><font size=3D"2">=A00.503838=A0</font></td><td align=
=3D"right"><font size=3D"2">=A0<b>-33</b>=A0</font></td><td align=3D"right=
"><font size=3D"2">=A01=A0</font></td><td align=3D"left"><font size=3D"2">=
=A0JO02dg=A0</font></td><td align=3D"right">
<font size=3D"2">=A00.001=A0</font></td><td align=3D"left"><font size=3D"2=
">=A0G7NKS=A0</font></td><td align=3D"left"><font size=3D"2">=A0IO92ub=A0<=
/font></td><td align=3D"right"><font size=3D"2">=A046=A0</font></td><td al=
ign=3D"right"><font size=3D"2">=A0240=A0</font></td>
</tr>
<tr><td align=3D"right"><font size=3D"2">=A02009-09-17 07:56=A0</font></td=
><td align=3D"left"><font size=3D"2">=A0G3XBM=A0</font></td><td align=3D"r=
ight"><font size=3D"2">=A00.503839=A0</font></td><td align=3D"right"><font=
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t"><font size=3D"2">=A0240</font></td></tr></tbody></table><br clear=3D"al=
l">73s<br>Roger <br>-- <br>-----------------------------------------------=
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<a href=3D"http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/">http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/<=
/a><br><a href=3D"http://www.g3xbm.co.uk">http://www.g3xbm.co.uk</a><br>G3=
XBM =A0 =A0GQRP 1678 =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL G11088<br>

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Dear LF
Special event HF70W will be activity in night saturday/sunday 19/20
September and 4/5 October.
This friday (18 September) worked on 137,700kHz, QRSS3  from 20:00 UTC.
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Hi Marcin,
thank's report and info !

73 de Gus SM6BHZ

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> Dear Jim, Gus,  LF Group
> 
> In night today:
> 2124   1 -1.3   0.503926  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2130 -30 -1.2   0.503841  0 M0BMU IO91 33
> 2130   3 -1.2   0.503926  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2134   1 -1.4   0.503926  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2140   2  0.9   0.503926  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2146   3  0.9   0.503926  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> --
> Vy 73!
> Marcin SQ2BXI
> 
> 
> 
>> M0BMU very clear at 503.840 WSPR:
>> 
>> 193400   4  11  1.5  -896  0  M0BMU IO91 33
>> 
>> 73 - IK1ODO - JN35sa
>> 
>> 
>




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Hi Roger you are solid copy with me at -25dB, multiple decodes

 

With best regards

 

 

Jim

 

 

Dr. James Cowburn

 

  _____  

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Subject: Re: LF: QRPp Beacon

 

It is currently on around 503.890kHz. Just set your RX to 502.4kHz in USB
mode with the WSPR software and it will find me if at a readable level. 

73s
Roger G3XBM

2009/9/17 Chris <c.ashby435@btinternet.com>

Hi Roger,

Please remind us which frequency exactly it is on.

Thanks and 73,

Chris, G4AYT.




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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Hi Roger you ar=
e solid copy with me at
-25dB, multiple decodes<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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yle=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>With best regar=
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t></b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;fon=
t-family:Tahoma'> owner-<st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blac=
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rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</st1:PersonName>] <b><span style=3D'font-=
weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Roger Lapthorn<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 17 September 2009=
 19:22<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:s=
t=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: LF: QRPp=
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le=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3D3 fac=
e=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>It is currently=
 on around
503.890kHz. Just set your RX to 502.4kHz in USB mode with the WSPR sof=
tware and
it will find me if at a readable level. <br>
<br>
73s<br>
Roger G3XBM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-s=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-s=
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<a href=3D"http://www.g3xbm.co.uk">http://www.g3xbm.co.uk</a><br>
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QSL UR O REPORT TNX QSO 73 TNX QSO GN DE MAL/G3KEV

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>* mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net> [Sat, 19 Sep 2009 20:37:34
> +0100]:
>> Hi
>> Roman
>> Tnx O copy report, vy gud condx on 7033 fm Russia pse call again for
> qso
>> mal/g3kev
>
> Tried after every cycle of your tx.
>
> Only trace on 502.7 at moment.
>
> Roman
>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Roman RW3ADB" <rw3adb@rambler.ru>
>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2009 8:23 PM
>> Subject: Re: LF: NW CQ DX
>>
>>
>> > Hi Mal, LF!
>> > Copy you OOO 502.570, but you are do not heard me on 40m.
>> >
>> > grabber is on 502.0 dial
>> >
>> > Roman
>> >
>> >> Now in CQ DX MODE 502.57 and QSX 7033 KCS for xband QSO'S
>> >> G3KEV
>> >
>>
>>
>>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>
>>
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> --
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>


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G/M Gus, LF!
Some better tracks with ssb and cw:

0.9 Mb wav: (cw only readable)
http://rw3adb.narod.ru/2009/25sep2009_SM6BHZ_SSB_CW/2300msk090924sm6bhz_cw.wav

3 Mb wav:
http://rw3adb.narod.ru/2009/25sep2009_SM6BHZ_SSB_CW/2359msk090924sm6bhz_cw.wav

4Mb wav:
http://rw3adb.narod.ru/2009/25sep2009_SM6BHZ_SSB_CW/0228msk090925sm6bhz_cw.wav

4Mb wav:
http://rw3adb.narod.ru/2009/25sep2009_SM6BHZ_SSB_CW/0308msk090925sm6bhz_cw.wav

1.4 Mb wav:
http://rw3adb.narod.ru/2009/25sep2009_SM6BHZ_SSB_CW/0409msk090925sm6bhz_cw.wav

TNX for interesting reception!

Roman


* Roman RW3ADB <rw3adb@rambler.ru> [Thu, 24 Sep 2009 22:56:29 +0400]:
> Hi Gus!
>
> http://rw3adb.narod.ru/2009/25sep2009_SM6BHZ_SSB_CW/2.wav
> CW 438
> SSB not readable at moment
>
> Roman
>
> * Gus <begu@algonet.se> [Thu, 24 Sep 2009 20:18:39 +0200]:
> > Dear LF,
> >
> > this evening i test an SSB Beacon, QRG 508 kHz LSB.
> > Reports are welcome.
> >
> > 73 de Gus SM6BHZ
> > www.sm6bhz.com
> >
>
>
>
>



--
Roman RW3ADB.


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Dear LF Group,

The M0BMU WSPR beacon is running again tonight 0n 503.975kHz (502.4k "dial 
frequency"). Any reports are very welcome. Also a very strong signal from 
SM6BHZ tonight.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU 



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James Cowburn wrote:
> Dear LF
> 
>  
> 
> Just set up new Ant system, hopefully a lot less lossy so I should not be as
> QRPppp.  Operating on WSPR 502.4

I'm setup to receive on 502.4 WSPR for now but am tempted to QSY to 
508.5 WOLF for WE2XGR/5..perhaps later at say 2200UTC

Too many things to do at the same time - 1 RX locked to the 5MHz 
beacons, one on 5MHz WSPR and the 3rd on MF (WSPR/WOLF etc) ....!

Cheers,

John
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Lest anyone doubt the power of WOLF...

http://www.w1vd.com/capture/XGR3091209.jpg

This reception of WE2XGR/3 was over a 70 mile path. Antenna at the receive end was two 18" clip 
leads directly  into the antenna terminal of the RF-590 receiver...a receiver not known for it's 
great sensitivity. Note there is no trace of a signal in the waterfall and of course no audible 
received signal. This is not a fluke reception. John and I have seen similar results on 137 kHz over 
many years as well.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2


----- Original Message ----- 
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> Sorry for the short notice, I sent this using the wrong email account...
>
> WE2XGR/3 will again be running WOLF(10) on 508.700 kHz tonight from
> 2300Z until 0500Z. Reports are welcome.
>
> John, W1TAG / WE2XGR/3
> 



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Dear=C2=A0Gerhard,



it's a CW beacon from DF5QZ, operating in a continuous loop near 137.14 kH=
z.=C2=A0Good aural copy in Nuernberg when the band is quiet.



Best 73,

Markus, DF6NM=C2=A0



-----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung-----=20
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Verschickt: Di., 29. Sept. 2009, 17:23
Thema: LF: Signal on 137140

Hello Group!

I haven't followed the list very closely recently and so I might have miss=
ed something.

Could anybody please tell me what kind of signal is permanently on 137140?=
 (Always visible on the DF6NM-grabber)

It seems to be modulated in some way and I have heard it is WSPR. Though=
 I can receive this signal in JN88HL, WSPR-software failed to decode.

Thanks in advance and

Cheers
OE3GHB
Gerhard Hickl

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<div>Dear&nbsp;Gerhard,</div>


<div>&nbsp;</div>


<div>it's a CW beacon from DF5QZ, operating in a continuous loop near 137.=
14 kHz.&nbsp;Good aural copy in Nuernberg when the band is quiet.</div>


<div>&nbsp;</div>


<div>Best 73,</div>


<div>Markus, DF6NM&nbsp;</div>


<div><br>
<br>
-----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung----- <br>
Von: Gerhard Hickl &lt;gerhard.hickl@aon.at&gt;<br>
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Verschickt: Di., 29. Sept. 2009, 17:23<br>
Thema: LF: Signal on 137140<br>
<br>
<TT>Hello Group!<br>
<br>
I haven't followed the list very closely recently and so I might have miss=
ed something.<br>
<br>
Could anybody please tell me what kind of signal is permanently on 137140?=
 (Always visible on the DF6NM-grabber)<br>
<br>
It seems to be modulated in some way and I have heard it is WSPR. Though=
 I can receive this signal in JN88HL, WSPR-software failed to decode.<br>
<br>
Thanks in advance and<br>
<br>
Cheers<br>
OE3GHB<br>
Gerhard Hickl<br>
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Roger Lapthorn wrote:
> John, if YOU manage to hear me then I really will believe pigs can fly.
> 
>

Unfortunately my RX setup on 500 isn't quite as sensitive as it has been 
in previous seasons. I'm using an active loop - a Wellbrook ALA1530 - at 
the moment. The loop amplifier's own noise floor limits the absolute 
sensitivity of the system. At night this generally isn't a problem 
though, as external noise overcomes this. I've found that best results 
in daytime though are from my vertical tuned TX antenna fed via a 
tuneable pre-amp. The pre-amp has little effect on signals from the 
active loop though, as the S/N is pretty much set in the antenna's 
amplifier stage.

At the moment I have converted my MF TX antenna to use on HF (5MHz WSPR) 
so I can't bring it into use as an RX antenna on 500.

Still, I'm game to try it. I've set the 500kHz WSPR running in RX mode. 
Keep an eye on the online database.

The best time is likely to be well into the middle of the night, so 
please run overnight. I received a few signals from G7NKS, even before 
his recent antenna improvements, using this setup, so let's see how it goes.

Good luck

John
GM4SLV


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Thank you everyone for all your suggestions (direct and indirect).  I have=
 forwarded them to G3TDZ.

73
John F5VLF

*********** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***********

On 25/09/2009 at 15:23 John RABSON wrote:

>LF, Dave,
>
>John Hey, G3TDZ, has produced a prototype of a new version of the cave
>radio which is named after him, and looking for recommendations for CAD
>software for PCB layout.=20
>
>He doesn't need anything fancy - most packages he has looked at do much
>more than he wants and are too complicated.
>
>The software must be cheap (ideally free or shareware) and the file
>formats must not be tied to a particular PCB manufacturer.
>
>For details of the design see his article "A Prototype Cave Radio to Avoi=
d
>Loran Interference", CREG Journal issue 72 pp4 to 6, August 2009.
>
>Any suggestions, please?
>
>73
>John F5VLF





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Thanks for the report Jim,  power to the  Ae has been 10 watts for the  last 
hour or so , ran the beacon since round 3 this afternoon, gm4ism and g7nks 
where  on line ... Im still looking for the 10 Hz jump in frequency  on my 
tx , no reason as yet ....also its not showing on the  rx side  ..

73 - G ..

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>
> Dear LF Group,
>
> Am now QRV in WSPR mode on 503.975kHz, 502.4kHz "dial frequency". Also 
> good
> signals from G4WGT, G0NBD, and SM6BHZ at the moment. I see Gary and Graham
> seem  to be on exactly the same frequency, so will double occasionally. 
> Any
> reports would be very welcome.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
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Hi LF,
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Henny pa3cpm
best 73s
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J.B.,

For work at 500 kHz, I'd be tempted to go no longer than 16 frames. I'm 
beginning to think that the fast fades and poorer phase stability hurt 
the build-up of copy. While you may get your first clear copy on the 
31st line, I'll bet that you would have gotten it quicker by flushing 
things out earlier.

That said, 8 lines appears to be too short for any reasonable copy of 
M0BMU here. I used 12 earlier in the week with decent results, and have 
gone back to it.

John, W1TAG

J. B. Weazle McCreath wrote:
> Hello LFers,
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> What are most of you fellows setting your Nr of frames value at
> in the Wolf Config screen?  How important is this setting as to
> its effect on decodes?  Thanks in advance for any/all replies.
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Hi , Henny , Warren ,

Also i copy XGJ last night

73 Jean-Pierre f1afj

henny van elst a =E9crit :
> Hi Warren,LF
> traces XGJ
> Henny pa3cpm
> 73s
>  =20

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Lubos,
thank's report and info.
Nice to hear that you are on stage with your experiment in WSPR, it se=
ams like WSPR is a great QRP mode!!

73 de Gus SM6BHZ
www.sm6bhz.com


  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Lubos OK2BVG=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 8:43 PM
  Subject: LF: BHZ_WSPR


  Hello Gus, LF!
  This is my first experiment with WSPR.=20
  73!

  Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS


  1812 -30  0.8   1.503950  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
  1816 -25  0.9   1.503950  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
  1818 -22  0.9   1.503950  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
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  1824 -16  0.9   1.503951  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
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  1838 -23  1.1   1.503951  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40


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<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4 face=3DArial>Lubos,</FONT></EM></STRON=
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<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4 face=3DArial>thank's report and=20
info.</FONT></EM></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4 face=3DArial>Nice to hear that you are=
 on stage with=20
your experiment in WSPR, it seams like WSPR is a great QRP=20
mode!!</FONT></EM></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4 face=3DArial></FONT></EM></STRONG>&nbs=
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<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4 face=3DArial>73 de Gus=20
SM6BHZ</FONT></EM></STRONG></DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: BHZ_WSPR</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>Hello Gus, LF!<BR>This is my first experiment with WS=
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Hi LF,
Capture RA3YO,
Hennypa3cpm
73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
RA3YO 11-09.jpg

Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld.

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi LF,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Capture RA3YO,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hennypa3cpm</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>73s</FONT></DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het volgende 
bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:<BR>RA3YO 11-09.jpg<BR><BR>Opmerking: 
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Me too.  I am getting 3 traces (!) from Jim M (he is 9+10 and audible!) and
a biggish one from Gus too

 

With best regards

 

 

Jim

 

 

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Subject: LF: RE: G3XBM on 500kHz - signals slightly better?

 

Roger, what freq are you on tonight? I'm seeing a  v  e  r  y  faint trace
that isn't decoding.

 

Dave G3WCB

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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Roger Lapthorn
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To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; M0BXT
Subject: LF: G3XBM on 500kHz - signals slightly better?

Early reports of my WSPR beacon from G3XVL and M0BMU suggest a VERY slight
improvement (2-3dB at best) has been achieved. Let's hope  a few others spot
me tonight. 

73s
Roger G3XBM

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http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
G3XBM    GQRP 1678      ISWL G11088


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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'fo=
nt-size:10.0pt; font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></fon=
t></b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;fon=
t-family:Tahoma'> owner-<st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blac=
ksheep.org</st1:PersonName> [mailto:owner-<st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">=
rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</st1:PersonName>] <b><span style=3D'font-=
weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Dave G3WCB<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 16 September 2009=
 21:02<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:s=
t=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> LF: RE: G3XBM=
 on 500kHz -
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yle=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Roger, what fre=
q are you on tonight? I'm
seeing a&nbsp; v&nbsp; e&nbsp; r &nbsp;y&nbsp; faint trace that isn't=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3D2 fac=
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iginal Message-----<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> owner-<st1:Person=
Name w:st=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</st1:PersonName>
[mailto:owner-<st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=
</st1:PersonName>]<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </s=
pan></b>Roger Lapthorn<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 16 September 2009=
 18:02<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:s=
t=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</st1:PersonName>;
M0BXT<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> LF: G3XBM on=
 500kHz -
signals slightly better?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'>Early reports of my WSPR beacon from G3XVL an=
d M0BMU suggest a VERY
slight improvement (2-3dB at best) has been achieved. Let's hope&nbsp;=
 a few
others spot me tonight. <br>
<br>
73s<br>
Roger G3XBM<br clear=3Dall>
<br>
-------------------------------------------------------------<br>
<a href=3D"http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/">http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.c=
om/</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.g3xbm.co.uk">http://www.g3xbm.co.uk</a><br>
G3XBM &nbsp; &nbsp;GQRP 1678 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;ISWL G11088<o:p></o:p=
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Tnx jim - QRN is fairly high on this side this evening  - decoders running=
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Laurence.
=20
> From: james.moritz@btopenworld.com
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 19:57:00 +0100
> Subject: LF: Re: tonight - WOLF10 test
>=20
> Dear Lawrence, John, LF group,
>=20
> Thanks for monitoring the Wolf beacon last night.
>=20
> The beacon is now (1846utc) running again in standard WOLF10 mode on=20
> 503.500kHz - all being well, it will be going overnight. Any reports wil=
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> very welcome.
>=20
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
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> ----- Original Message -----=20
> From: "Laurence BY3A-KL1X China" <hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 3:34 PM
> Subject: LF: tonight
>=20
>=20
>=20
> Ill leave the receiver on wspr on 502.4, Wolf10 on 503.5 and upload the=
 wspr=20
> window to http://kl1x.com/dx00000.jpg - if the processor can take it :-)
>=20
>=20
>=20

_________________________________________________________________
Get back to school stuff for them and cashback for you.
http://www.bing.com/cashback?form=3DMSHYCB&publ=3DWLHMTAG&crea=3DTEXT_MSHY=
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Tnx jim - QRN is fairly&nbsp;high on this side this evening&nbsp; -&nbsp;d=
ecoders running - <BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Laurence.<BR>&nbsp;<BR>&gt; From: james.moritz@btopenworld.com<BR>&gt; To:=
 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR>&gt; Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 19:57:00 +0100=
<BR>&gt; Subject: LF: Re: tonight - WOLF10 test<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Dear Lawr=
ence, John, LF group,<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Thanks for monitoring the Wolf beac=
on last night.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; The beacon is now (1846utc) running again=
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* Lubos OK2BVG <bvgbob@hotmail.com> [Thu, 10 Sep 2009 21:39:07 +0200]:

Congratulations!!!!
OZ6GFO increase your power pse!
Prop is wonderful.

> Hello LF!
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> 1934 -33  6.5   1.503985 -1 OZ6GFO MF26 3
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Dear Daves, LF Group,

Thanks for the overnight reports - the beacon was shut down at 0925utc here. 
I see several spots in the database from AA1A - the first time M0BMU has 
been copied in the US this season, thanks Dave.

In answer to YMC Dave's questions:
1) I don't know of an actual figure for required frequency stability, but 
more than several Hz drift during a 2 minute period would be a problem. But 
a drift of 1Hz in 2min is small enough. Some of the HF people have problems 
with rigs heating and cooling between transmit and receive cycles and the 
resulting cyclic drift. Using a converter and receiver with seperate 
oscillators will certainly tend to multiply drift problems.

2) I have not so far had much success with internet based clock 
synchronisation utilities, so at the moment I am just setting my PC clock 
against an MSF clock at the start of each session - this is adequate, but my 
PC does drift a few seconds overnight. Having said that, I was being 
received OK by a number of other stations this morning. The transmission is 
supposed to start on each even minute, and have a duration of 110.6 seconds.

3) WSPR seems to have good dynamic range, provided the RX and sound card 
gains are adjusted so that overload does not occur. Certainly, it is 
possible to receive rather weak signals giving just a faint trace in the 
noise on the waterfall display at the same time as strong "red" traces 
occur - a range of 40dB or more. Even if a strong signal does cause 
overload, the randomised transmit periods mean that only a fraction of the 
weak signal time slots will be affected. I have not noticed any problem with 
decoding strong WSPR signals here, although there are not really any "very" 
strong signals.

The "false decodes" occur from time to time, apparently more when 
narrow-band QRM is present. If you read W1JT's description of the various JT 
modes, he has made a trade-off between excluding decoded weak signals that 
contain a lot of noise but could be correct, and falsely decoding noise that 
by chance resembles a signal. In practice, they are not really an issue, due 
to the fact that the callsign is encoded with other information (for WSPR 
the locator and power output) and these would have to be consistent with the 
callsign for the signal to be accepted as valid. Even if the falsely decoded 
callsign is plausible, it is extremely unlikely that the locator would be 
correct, and astronomically unlikely that the same decode would be generated 
from noise at multiple receiving stations on multiple occasions. Using these 
types of criteria, false decodes are periodically stripped out of the WSPR 
database.

A number of people have had problems with strong signals failing to decode, 
on HF as well as 500kHz. We did some investigation of this last winter; 
there may be more than one cause, but one issue is that some sound 
cards/operating systems appear to generate significant timing errors, which 
over the relatively long transmission period of WSPR accumulate to mess 
things up. This results in some receivers failing to decode some 
transmitters. One way to test this is to receive a strong WSPR signal, but 
then after about 40s or a minute from the start of a transmission disconnect 
the audio to the PC or turn the gain down to zero. There is enough data in 
the shortened signal to decode, but less time for timing errors to 
accumulate. If this results in successful decoding, then a timing error of 
this sort seems likely, which could be at either TX or RX. Weak signals may 
decode fine, because parts of the signal are "missing" due to noise and 
fading. So another possible test is to reduce gain until the strong signal 
is just a weak trace on the waterfall in the receiver noise, and see if 
correct decoding occurs then.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU



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On 17 Sep 2009 at 9:23, Roger Lapthorn wrote:

> Just had these 2 reports. I am very surprised WSPR can detect these low
> S/N levels...
> 
>  2009-09-17 08:12  G3XBM  0.503838  *-33*  1  JO02dg  0.001  G7NKS 
>  IO92ub 46  240   2009-09-17 07:56  G3XBM  0.503839 * -32*  0  JO02dg 
>  0.001 G7NKS  IO92ub  46  240
> 73s
> Roger

Still nothing at all here Roger, there were a couple of very weak 
broken lines on the waterfall but no copy.

I tend to take the dB figures in WSRP with a pinch of salt. Jim, James 
and Gus are quite strong signals and not only audible by ear all the 
time but reading well on the s meter - James 579, Gus peaking over s9 
at times but with deep QSB, and Jim - if it wasn't a row of LEDs it 
would be bending the meter. G7NKS shows between -3dB and -17dB on WSPR 
(with the input adjusted for a correct 0dB on noise), implying he is 
below the noise... I think all that can be deduced is the relative 
strengths against an unknown reference. With the signals heard here 
WSPR7 gives reliable decodes down to around -20dBm and a few gibberish 
decodes at the -30dBm level. I have not copied anything lower, and when 
I do get decodes the signal is easily copyable by ear and a very 
obvious line on the spectrogram.

One point is that with the K2 you cannot set a narrow filter at 1.5kHz 
(a limitation of the tuning range of its IF BFO). I am sure if you used 
such a narrow receive filter the results would be spectacularly better, 
but I am stuck with the SSB filter.

73 Dave G3YMC

http://www.davesergeant.com



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Hi Roman!
There was Request for Gus. :-)
--
Vy 73!
Marcin SQ2BXI

> 
> Let's try to find an correspondent with TX on 503Kc and receiver on 
> 40/80m QRV! -)



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Marcin,

thank you for report and info!

73 de Gus SM6BHZ
www.sm6bhz.com

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> Dear Gus, LF Group
> This evening very strong copy your WSPR beacon:
> 
> 2158   6  0.2   0.503951  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2206   3  0.9   0.503951  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2214   7  1.0   0.503951  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2222   1  0.9   0.503951  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2232   2  0.9   0.503951  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2236  10  0.8   0.503951  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2242   9  0.8   0.503951  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 
> Maximum signal +10dB !
> --
> Vy 73!
> Marcin SQ2BXI
> 
>




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Thanks Andrey
What is your locator square?

73
Dave

2009/9/23 Andrey rn3agc <rn3agc@mail.ru>

> Hello Dave, LF,
>
> 2026   -29  0.6   0.503808  G3YXM IO92 27
>
> 73 Andrey
>
>


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Thanks Andrey<br>What is your locator square?<br><br>73<br>Dave<br><br><di=
v class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/9/23 Andrey rn3agc <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a=
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73 Andrey<br>
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Gus  last night...

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090912 2024   3 -30  0.8   0.503925  SM6BHZ JO57 40          0  4244    0
090912 2032   4 -28  0.9   0.503925  SM6BHZ JO57 40          0    52    0
090912 2040   3 -28  0.7   0.503925  SM6BHZ JO57 40          0     3    0
090912 2046   2 -30  0.8   0.503926  SM6BHZ JO57 40          0  6875    1

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thanks

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Laurence in BY3A

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Gus&nbsp; last night...<BR>
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090912 2024&nbsp;&nbsp; 3 -30&nbsp; 0.8&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503925&nbsp; SM6BHZ=
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Hi all dxers
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SM6BHZ WSPR loud and clear in Italy, JN35sa.

195000   6  12  1.1  -895  0  SM6BHZ JO57 40
195200   6  12  1.1  -895  0  SM6BHZ JO57 40
195400   6  13  1.0  -895  0  SM6BHZ JO57 40

23m untuned long wire, Perseus, WSJT

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Hello Jim,

received first line of code at 22.40 UTC.

0.2 dp: 99.3 ci: 0 cj:124 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -

73's de Gerhard  //  DK6NI  (JN59LN)

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
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-----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von James Morit=
z
Gesendet: Dienstag, 8. September 2009 23:02
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Betreff: LF: Re: WOLF beacon

Dear LF Group,

I am now running a "standard" WOLF 10 mode beacon on 503.500kHz for th=
e next

few hours. Any reports would be very welcome. Information and software=
=20
downloads can be found at http://freenet-homepage.de/dl4yhf/wolf/index=
.html.

The beacon may shut down from time to time, because the signal seems=
 to=20
scramble my ADSL modem...

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU=20



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<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"de"></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-gb"></SPAN></P>

<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-gb"><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Courier New">=
received first line of code</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"de"></SPAN><SPA=
N LANG=3D"en-gb"><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Courier New"> at 22.40 UTC.</F=
ONT></SPAN></P>

<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"de"></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-gb"><FONT SIZE=
=3D2 FACE=3D"Courier New">0.2 dp: 99.3 ci: 0 cj:124</FONT></SPAN><SPAN=
 LANG=3D"de"><B></B></SPAN><B><SPAN LANG=3D"en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=3D2 FAC=
E=3D"Courier New">M0BMU IO91VR 2W -</FONT></SPAN></B><SPAN LANG=3D"de"=
><B></B></SPAN><B><SPAN LANG=3D"en-gb"></SPAN></B></P>

<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"de"></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-gb"></SPAN></P>

<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-gb"><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Courier New">=
73's de Gerhard&nbsp; //&nbsp; DK6NI&nbsp; (JN59LN)</FONT></SPAN></P>

<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-gb"><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Courier New">=
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<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"de"><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Courier New">---=
--Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----<BR>
Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [<A HREF=3D"mailto:owner-">mai=
lto:owner-</A>rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von James Morit=
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<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"de"><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Courier New">Dea=
r LF Group,</FONT></SPAN></P>

<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"de"><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Courier New">I=
 am now running a &quot;standard&quot; WOLF 10 mode beacon on 503.500k=
Hz for the next </FONT></SPAN></P>

<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"de"><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Courier New">few=
 hours. Any reports would be very welcome. Information and software </=
FONT></SPAN></P>

<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"de"><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Courier New">dow=
nloads can be found at <A HREF=3D"http://freenet-homepage.de/dl4yhf/wo=
lf/index.html">http://freenet-homepage.de/dl4yhf/wolf/index.html</A>.=
 </FONT></SPAN></P>

<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"de"><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Courier New">The=
 beacon may shut down from time to time, because the signal seems to=
 </FONT></SPAN></P>

<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"de"><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Courier New">scr=
amble my ADSL modem...</FONT></SPAN></P>

<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"de"><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Courier New">Che=
ers, Jim Moritz</FONT></SPAN></P>

<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"de"><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Courier New">73=
 de M0BMU </FONT></SPAN></P>
<BR>

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Thanks Jim for this observation and others for their feedback.

When I first set up WSPR, in the days when the s/n button did not exist I ran a series of tests where I changed the level into the sound card and looked at the S/n of a single station as reported by WSPR. I found some non linearity and settled for an area on the linear part of the curve. When the s/n button appeared. I found it was red and reading -27dB. I have been running it at this level for several months.  I have been getting decoded reports of s/n between -27 and -9  but usually about 6 -9dB worse than others were reporting.
Last week as you know I tried your sigs on 137kHz and picked up 3 signals each time. slot After the dialogue of the last few days I have  turned my audio down and am setting to  0 dB on the button. Plenty of decodes last night. Now I need to find time to redo my linearity measurements and also compare my results with others reports on the database.

regards
peter G8AFN

Dear Dave, LF Group,

There seem to be some misunderstandings here...

The little box with the receiver noise level is there so you can set the 
gain controls to a reasonable level where the incoming audio is well above 
the noise level of the sound card, but well below overload level. 0dB is 
what K1JT has settled on as an optimum level, but quite wide deviations from 
that (say +/- 10dB or more) will not have much effect on the decoding 
process, or the reported SNR of the signal. In fact, even if the overload 
level is reached on noise peaks, it still makes little difference provided 
it only occurs a reasonably small proportion of the time.

The reported SNR is obtained by measuring the level of each WSPR signal 
during the 2 minute period, measuring the associated noise level during the 
same period, and calculating the dB ratio. Thus it is largely independent of 
the actual receiver or sound card gain settings, and gain can be varied 
through many dB (see above) without significantly changing the SNR reports.

So there is no direct connection between the receiver output level and the 
SNR figures.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU


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> In the ideal case of course you have just receiver noise as your
> background noise level. So you adjust your sound card input to give you
> the magic 0dB on that. During the night the static crash level will
> rise and push the S-meter to s9 at times. Every 15 minutes G4JNT will
> do its one minute of transmission on 503.7 at various power levels and
> push the little thing in the box well into the red. So one has to ask
> oneself what exactly the dB figures in reports really mean.... 




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Dear LF Group,

Thanks for all the reports so far. The beacon will continue running for at 
least a few more hours, although it looks like another noisy night on 136k.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU 



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Roger Lapthorn wrote:

> Well, easy for some (I can see) but NOT for me. What am I doing wrong?
>
> 19:19:11 >WOLF RESTARTED
>
> And STILL no decode even though Jim is clear and strong on the waterfall.
>
> 73s
> Roger G3XBM
>
>
>     2009-09-10 19:36:31 >WOLF10  -r 11025 -f 1000 -t 3 -w 0.0000
>

Dear Roger, LF group

when you start the prgram from  scratch  the first line which appears
in the receiving window looks like this:
2009-09-10 19:36:31 >WOLF10  -r 11025 -f 1000 -t 3 -w 0.0000
send  here  "the same" line but from ur rx window . this line gives some 
info about your particular settings
let's  look at it

                                   73 de peter, sq7mpj
qth: Lodz /jo91rs/


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Roger Lapthorn wrote:
<blockquote   cite=3D"mid9afca2640909101311i11534831g528282550dc840fe@mail=
.gmail.com"   type=3D"cite">Well, easy for some (I can see) but NOT for me=
. What am I
doing wrong?<br>
  <br>
19:19:11 &gt;WOLF RESTARTED<br>
  <br>
And STILL no decode even though Jim is clear and strong on the
waterfall.<br>
  <br>
73s<br>
Roger G3XBM<br>
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2009-09-10 19:36:31 &gt;WOLF10 =C2=A0-r 11025 -f 1000 -t 3 -w 0.0000<br>
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</blockquote>
<br>
Dear Roger, LF group<br>
<br>
when you start the prgram from=C2=A0 scratch=C2=A0 the first line which ap=
pears <br>
in the receiving window looks like this:<br>
2009-09-10 19:36:31 &gt;WOLF10 =C2=A0-r 11025 -f 1000 -t 3 -w 0.0000<br>
send=C2=A0 here=C2=A0 "the same" line but from ur rx window . this line gi=
ves
some info about your particular settings<br>
let's=C2=A0 look at it<br>
<br>
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On 01/09/2009 at 20:17 mal hamilton wrote:

>Roger I am stating the facts, someone else mentioned seeing the signals
>on the waterfall but they were not decoding. I could easlily have made a
>qso on cw given the strength of signals whereas WSPR was not decoding, so
>the exercise is pointless.

That was me.  I wasn't decoding because I don't yet have a decoder.  Had=
 I had one, and given the snr I observed, I would have expected 100% copy.=
  On the few occasions I have heard Mal, his snr has not been anything lik=
e as good as WSPR.

John F5VLF



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Hi Gus, LF!
1926 -24  1.2   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
1932 -26  1.1   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
1938 -27  1.1   0.503925  1 SM6BHZ JO57 30
1958 -16  1.1   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2014 -15  1.0   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2022 -15  0.9   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40

Negative copy M0BMU today in my location. It' s a pity.


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Thanx dear Dave for this first contact with you on LF band.
Good evening and hope to listen you later
 
 
F4DTL  Nicolas JN18FP
RX : Icom IC7400
Ant: Wellbrook LFL 1010

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Hi Jim,
Just to let you know your sig last night on 137.72 was good here, as=
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Nice to see a bit more activity lately on 136/137, the band seems to=
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Vy 73,
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Hello Dave, LF,

2026   -29  0.6   0.503808  G3YXM IO92 27

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Roman and John,

thank's report and files!

73 de Gus

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> Hi Gus!
> 
> http://rw3adb.narod.ru/2009/25sep2009_SM6BHZ_SSB_CW/2.wav
> CW 438
> SSB not readable at moment
> 
> Roman
> 
> * Gus <begu@algonet.se> [Thu, 24 Sep 2009 20:18:39 +0200]:
>> Dear LF,
>>
>> this evening i test an SSB Beacon, QRG 508 kHz LSB.
>> Reports are welcome.
>>
>> 73 de Gus SM6BHZ
>> www.sm6bhz.com
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> 
> --
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>




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* mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net> [Sat, 19 Sep 2009 20:37:34 
+0100]:
> Hi
> Roman
> Tnx O copy report, vy gud condx on 7033 fm Russia pse call again for 
qso
> mal/g3kev

Tried after every cycle of your tx.

Only trace on 502.7 at moment.

Roman

> ----- Original Message -----
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>
>
> > Hi Mal, LF!
> > Copy you OOO 502.570, but you are do not heard me on 40m.
> >
> > grabber is on 502.0 dial
> >
> > Roman
> >
> >> Now in CQ DX MODE 502.57 and QSX 7033 KCS for xband QSO'S
> >> G3KEV
> >
>
>
> 
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Lubos, Victor and LF,
thank's report and info !
73 de Gus SM6BHZ
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  Hello LF!

  1910  -3  1.1   0.503927  0 SM6BHZ JO57 33
  1912 -25  1.5   0.503911  0 G4WGT IO83 27

  Lubos, OK2BVG




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>>>I have learnt, WSPR sounds like a slightly rough CW and is transmit=
ted in=20
>>>4min-blocks. <<<<<

Dennis , That may  not be wspr , wspr  tx time is  120 seconds locked=
 to the=20
exact time , with the  start time on the  00-00
by sound its like a very  slow narrow shift psk signal .....but it is=
 only=20
one  carrier  changing frequency  with  no breaks in the 120 second=20
transmission

The  software  may be downloaded :-

http://www.physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/wspr.html

As long as the  pc clock is  close it  will decode ok ....if the  pc=
 is not=20
on the  www  , multipsk has a pc clock set  facility  that use the  mf=
 time=20
signals

Multipsk :-

http://f6cte.free.fr/index_anglais.htm

73 - Graham .

G0NBD



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From: "Dennis" <Dennis.Hennig@gmx.de>
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Subject: LF: MY first WSPR - by ear ;)

>
>
> Hi!
>
> My first ever WSPR receptions - by ear...   :)
> Whoever it was, thanks for this experience!
>
> Anyway, here are your reports:
>
> 13.XI.2009
>
> 22:00:00Z - 22:01:55Z 503,9..  RST559
>
> 22:06:00Z - 22:07:55Z 503,96   RST559
>
> 22:10:00Z - 22:11:55Z 503,96   RST579
>
> 22:14:00Z - 22:18:00Z 503,96   nothing heard
>
> 22:18:00Z - 22:19:55Z 503,96   RST559
>
> 22:20:00Z - 22:21:55Z 503,88qsy? RST439
>
> break for typing this text, and finally:
>
> 22:38:00Z - 22:39:55Z 503,88   RST449
>
>
> RX homemade simple superhet, IF-BW tonight 750Hz
> ANT 10m loop in a linden tree, pointing abt. 80deg/260deg
>
>
> I have learnt, WSPR sounds like a slightly rough CW and is transmitt=
ed in=20
> 4min-blocks. Thanks.
>
>
>
> Good night!
>
> Dennis
> DL6NVC
> Berlin
> JO62RM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --=20
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> Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01
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Hello Andrey,

thank's report and info !

73 de Gus SM6BHZ


----- Original Message ----- 
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> Hi Gus, LF!
> 
> 1934  14 -19  1.1   0.503931  SM6BHZ JO57 30
> 1942  21 -13  1.1   0.503931  SM6BHZ JO57 30
> 1946  17 -15  1.0   0.503931  SM6BHZ JO57 30
> 
> 73
> Andrey
> 
>




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Hello Lubos, LF
Thanks for QSO Lubos.
73!
Marcin SQ2BXI


Hello MArcin, LF!
Thanks for very nice QSO, I am pleased. Your signal was fine - see the
picture.

73!

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS




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Hello Jean Pierre
Your grabber regularly copy my signal:
http://www.sp2kds.pl/images/stories/f1afj.jpg
Vy 73!
Marcin SQ2BXI

Hello Marcin ,

Tnx for info , my antenna are at QTF 295=B0 (USA)

73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

Marcin a =E9crit :
> Dear Jean Pierre, LF
> It is HF70W QRSS 60 signal.
> Vy 73!
> Marcin SQ2BXI
>
>
>> Hello LF'ers ,
>>
>> I copy on 137,778 unidentified signal ?
>> 22:00 =3D> 23:00 utc ( see on picture )
>>
>> 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj
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I agree with Jay's points.

 I would like to remind all that WE2XGR stations are  authorized for
two-way QSOs with amateur stations
whilst WD2XSH are not authorized for two-way communications with
amateur stations.
--=20
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                WD2XGJ
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                WE2XGR/1


On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 4:02 PM,  <jrusgrove@comcast.net> wrote:
> Jim, LF group
>
> <2 cents>
>
> If T/A is of interest it seems like a three frequency slot system would=
 be
> benificial.
>
> slot 1) EU beacons (not attempting a QSO)
>
> slot 2) USA beacons (not attempting a QSO)
>
> slot 3) EU/USA stations attempting a QSO on the same frequency (for
> convenience in digital modes)
>
> Slots 1 and 2 should not be combined as 'local' interference will preclu=
de
> reception of T/A. A similar three slot system could be used for cw, alth=
ough
> operating 'split' on cw is less of a problem than on the digital modes.
>
> The WD2XSH bandplan eats up large chunks of spectrum by unnecessarily
> handing out frequency allocations to all stations. Past performance with=
in
> the XSH group has shown that some never got on the air and many others
> haven't been on the air in years. Only a very few stations are regularly
> active. We would be better served by an 'open' frequency slot system as
> outlined above. It doesn't appear the WE2XGR station will be following=
 the
> XSH band plan as currently laid out.
>
> </2 cents>
>
> Jay W1VD =A0WD2XNS =A0WE2XGR/2
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz"
> <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 2:40 PM
> Subject: Re: LF: Re: US 500-kHz band plan
>
>
>> Sorry, pressed "send" too soon by accident!
>>
>> Dear Graham, LF Group,
>>
>>> As the =A0European allocation looks to =A0be =A0wider than the =A0Uk,=
 are we
>>> expecting the =A0UK 3 Khz =A0allocation to =A0remain as is, if =A0and=
 when the band
>>> is formalised ?, in which case loosing 200 hz may not be the =A0most=
 sensible
>>> option ...
>>
>> As I understand it, there are not yet any formal Europe-wide proposals,
>> just what individual regulators have allocated on a case-by-case basis.=
 I
>> think G, EI, and ON have all allocated 501 - 504. The DL beacons and OK=
0EMW
>> are licenced to use spot frequencies around 505kHz. Gus SM6BHZ would be=
 able
>> to use 504.0 - 504.1kHz.
>>
>> But the main thing is whether we over here should transmit around 504kH=
z
>> as we are now, or shift to near 501kHz to share a common WSPR segment=
 with
>> the US. On one hand, keeping to near 504k would have the advantage of=
 no
>> strong signals in band for those trying to receive US stations. But on=
 the
>> other hand, it might mean we get QRMed by "general comms" US stations=
 for
>> those trying to receive us, and anyone wanting to receive both US and=
 EU
>> stations would need two receivers/soundcards, etc.
>>
>> Cheers, Jim Moritz
>> 73 de M0BMU
>>
>>
>
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Should be TXing around 503.930kHz but I'd be *very* surprised if you heard
me Dave!

73s
Roger G3XBM

2009/9/13 Dave Sergeant <dave@davesergeant.com>

> On 13 Sep 2009 at 16:51, Roger Lapthorn wrote:
>
> > However, nothing ventured nothing gained, *I will put this WSPR TX on
> > the air this evening* starting shortly in case *anyone* can hear me.
> > Any WSPR spot reports would fill me with total amazement and delight.
> >
>
> What actual frequency are you transmitting on Roger? As you might have
> gathered I do have a bit of a problem calibrating WSPR and decoding....
> I am running it now, and Argo, and seeing a moderately strong WSPR
> signal but no decodes. It may of course be Gus or somebody else. It
> last transmitted in the 1744 slot and before that at 1736.
>
> 73 Dave G3YMC
>
> http://www.davesergeant.com
>
>
>


-- 
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Should be TXing around 503.930kHz but I&#39;d be <u>very</u> surprised if=
 you heard me Dave!<br><br>73s<br>Roger G3XBM<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_q=
uote">2009/9/13 Dave Sergeant <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dave=
@davesergeant.com">dave@davesergeant.com</a>&gt;</span><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204,=
 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">On 13 Sep 2009=
 at 16:51, Roger Lapthorn wrote:<br>
<br>
&gt; However, nothing ventured nothing gained, *I will put this WSPR TX on=
<br>
&gt; the air this evening* starting shortly in case *anyone* can hear me.<=
br>
&gt; Any WSPR spot reports would fill me with total amazement and delight.=
<br>
&gt;<br>
<br>
What actual frequency are you transmitting on Roger? As you might have<br>
gathered I do have a bit of a problem calibrating WSPR and decoding....<br=
>
I am running it now, and Argo, and seeing a moderately strong WSPR<br>
signal but no decodes. It may of course be Gus or somebody else. It<br>
last transmitted in the 1744 slot and before that at 1736.<br>
<br>
73 Dave G3YMC<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.davesergeant.com" target=3D"_blank">http://www.daves=
ergeant.com</a><br>
<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>----------------------=
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gspot.com/">http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.g3=
xbm.co.uk">http://www.g3xbm.co.uk</a><br>
G3XBM =A0 =A0GQRP 1678 =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL G11088<br>

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G'day Mal,

Still reeling 'em in I see.


>
> I have heard a lot worse said about POME'S from AUS sources over the 
> years.
>

Nah - I'm not a POME-basher, sorry I can't give you that out.   Some of my 
best friends are POMs.    Good bunch of chaps in my experience.

>
> Glad that I am not a POME.
>

Don't worry - you are not - rest assured you are in a class completely of 
your own.

>
> de G3KEV now back to pounding the morse key, 20 metres looks good at 
> present.
>

I hope "morse key" is not a euphemism.....

As the actress said to the ham operator..."Is that a morse key I see in your 
hand - or are you just pleased to see me ?".... ;-)

Keep throwing out the bait....

BTW - for my own entertainment I have been listening to some Yorkshire 
accents from the BBC.    Don't know whether you are a native speaker of them 
thar parts, but blimey mate, I thought 'strine was hard for non-Aussies to 
understand until I heard a Yorkshire accent.   If you are a native speaker I 
can fully understand why you would prefer CW and emails.    That mode is 
excellent for allowing foreign speakers to understand each other - even 
across counties.

Nice to hook up with you again.

73 Steve 



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Dear LF

The past two days have been quite bad for signals I have noticed.  Normally
I get lots of decodes from many stations and now I am only getting Gus.
Also there is a lot of noise on the waterfall trace too.

Still hoping to catch Roger

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On 16 Sep 2009 at 7:56, Roger Lapthorn wrote:

> Hi folks,
> 
> My WSPR beacon is closing shortly. Thanks for reports this morning from
> M0BMU, and from G3XVL and G6ALB yesterday. No others as yet.
> 
> Later today, and before my holiday away, I hope to try a couple of quick
> and simple changes to the antenna and ground that may result in a
> slightly greater antenna current. All being well, the beacon will be on
> again later this afternoon and overnight tonight. Any reports would be
> greatly appreciated so I can compare performance.
> 
> Further improvements will have to then wait until October.
> 
> 73s
> Roger G3XBM

I listened again last night Roger between 1920 and 2020z and not a 
trace of you on the waterfall. SM6BHZ and G7NKS were coming in as 
normal, though Gus's signal seemed well down on what it was the night 
before, mostly down about -10dB with the occasional peak to 0dB (Monday 
he was consistently +2 to +4dB). So maybe 'excellent conditions' to DL 
land but not so to Bracknell...

73 Dave G3YMC

http://www.davesergeant.com




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Hi All,
I think most people are more likely to know their TX power, but then=
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I am not convinced many really genuinely know their ERP. A recent e-ma=
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Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent.

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Hi LF,
DI2AM strong
Henny pa3cpm
73s
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi LF,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>DI2AM strong</FONT></DIV>
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Good Folks,

Have made some quick changes to the 500kHz antenna and ground system (now
using my 10m halo and feed now as a short vertical with top capacity loading
and using the 15m long-wire as a radial along with the central heating
ground) and am putting the WSPR beacon back on shortly. Interested to know
if the changes have made much difference. Antenna current is higher so I
hope it will radiate a some more. Reports and screenshots gratefully
received.

On RX, G7NKS is about the same S/N as this morning before the changes. Not
quite sure what this is telling me.

BTW, I know I drift upwards about 50Hz for about 20 mins as the transverter
xtal oscillator settles.

73s
Roger G3XBM

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http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/
http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
G3XBM    GQRP 1678      ISWL G11088

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Good Folks,<br><br>Have made some quick changes to the 500kHz antenna and=
 ground system (now using my 10m halo and feed now as a short vertical wit=
h top capacity loading and using the 15m long-wire as a radial along with=
 the central heating ground) and am putting the WSPR beacon back on shortl=
y. Interested to know if the changes have made much difference. Antenna cu=
rrent is higher so I hope it will radiate a some more. Reports and screens=
hots gratefully received.<br>
<br>On RX, G7NKS is about the same S/N as this morning before the changes.=
 Not quite sure what this is telling me.<br><br>BTW, I know I drift upward=
s about 50Hz for about 20 mins as the transverter xtal oscillator settles.=
<br>
<br>73s<br>Roger G3XBM<br clear=3D"all"><br>------------------------------=
-------------------------------<br><a href=3D"http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.co=
m/">http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.g3xbm.co.u=
k">http://www.g3xbm.co.uk</a><br>
G3XBM =A0 =A0GQRP 1678 =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL G11088<br>

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Any chance of the 502.4/137 tx group want a try at WOLF10 as an experiment=
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e how it howls against a quiet Whisper.

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Hello John and LF,

thank's report and info !
Transmitter stoped after an upgrade last night.
I will let transmitter run from now and all night in WSPR !
Dial 502.5 kHz USB.

73 de Gus SM6BHZ


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>I have some copy of SM6BHZ in the past half hour:
> 0016 -29  0.9   0.503951   0  SM6BHZ JO57 30
> 0026 -28  1.0   0.503951   0  SM6BHZ JO57 30
> 0034 -27  1.0   0.503951   0  SM6BHZ JO57 30
> 0040 -26  1.2   0.503951   0  SM6BHZ JO57 30
> 
> Will let it run overnight and see if any other calls show up.
> 
> John Andrews, W1TAG/1
> Raymond, Maine FN42ch
>




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At 2003z.  Very weak then faded out.

John Rabson 
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Dear Laurence, Gus, LF Group,

Yes, that is very good - Congratulations! Would be interested to know what 
time did that occur?

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU

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Gus - excellent!



2009-09-05 SM6BHZ



0.503951
 -30
 0
 JO57wq
 10
 BY3A
 OM89ua
 7254 55



This bodes well as the path gets more dark. Set up is R75 and PA0RDT Probe 
in city centre apartment roof.



Thanks for the sigs



Laurence KL1X in BY3A OM89UA

Nr Tianjin Bohai Bay China





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James Moritz wrote:
> Dear LF Group,
> 
> I am now running a "standard" WOLF 10 mode beacon on 503.500kHz 


t:  48 f: 0.622 a: 1.2 dp:107.9 ci:10 cj:413 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t:  96 f: 0.623 a: 1.1 dp:107.8 ci:10 cj:413 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -

Actually it wasn't too difficult!

Now I should study the documentation to understand what the software's 
telling me!

Cheers,

John
GM4SLV



for the next
> few hours. Any reports would be very welcome. Information and software 
> downloads can be found at http://freenet-homepage.de/dl4yhf/wolf/index.html. 
> The beacon may shut down from time to time, because the signal seems to 
> scramble my ADSL modem...
> 
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU 
> 
> 


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Who is  running a qrp beacon on 503.3  ... very low in to  io83lk, som=
e thing about  5 ..? .. watts and a loop ae might of  copied  G0WSJ bu=
t  could be wrong .. signal is just showing at Birmingham ..  not at=
 G4WGT grabber  and  very low in the  noise at Wallasey ..  ..looks li=
ke it has  closed ?=20

Beacon text is very long ... would be better with simple vvvv  test =
 de gxxxx  gxxxx gxxxx   etc as qsb and static kept  knocking bits out=
 of the  text .... at least it  proved the  rx set up  works !

Graham

G0NBD

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Dave, LF,


Dave Sergeant wrote:

> 
> Well prompted by all the mails on here I have just installed the WSPR 
> software and had a listen to your signals this morning.
> 
> I noticed a couple of things which might explain why I was not getting 
> any decodes:
> 
> 1. On switch on of my K2 and Datong UC1 which I use for 500kHz receive 
> there is a noticeable drift, initially as high as 10Hz in the 2 minute 
> sampling period but eventually dropping to within 1Hz. I could not find 
> a spec as to how stable the receiver needs to be for WSPR. I believe 
> most of this drift is the 116MHz downconverter crystal in the UC1, 
> which is a big limitation to using it as a serious 500kHz receiver.

The frequency needs to be reasonably stable - the WSPR software will 
report the frequency shift seen during a reception period as "Drift" and 
I've seen a few reports of 1 or 2 Hz. This implies that it will work 
with a 1-2Hz drift across the 2 minute period. I'm not sure what the 
absolute limit is though.

> 2. Although I synchronised my computer clock to the time standards, and 
> it seems just a fraction of a second different from my 60kHz clock, 
> your transmissions seemed to be starting a second or two early, before 
> my WSPR started receiving, and finishing at around the 1.52 minutes 
> point. Is your clock out, or is this how it is supposed to work?

My PC is running NTP and is (hopefully fairly well locked to NTP time) 
and WSPR reports  "DT" (Delta Time) of +/- 0.1 Seconds on Jim's signals, 
so I guess that he and I are in agreement of what the correct time is, 
and he's getting lots of spots reported from other stations, so I don't 
think his timing is an issue. His trace on the waterfall in WSPR sits 
nicely in the 2-minute window.

I've seen successful decodes with DTs of up to 2 seconds.

The SNR/clock rate issue (see below) might muddy the waters  on absolute 
timing accuracy though?

> 3. You are of course s9+ at this range, and show as bright red on 
> WSPR's spectrogram. Hardly 'weak signal'. Does the software cope with 
> strong signals or does it overload?

This might be significant though.

I've seen may times that very strong signals fail to decode whereas much 
weaker ones from the same station (eg during QSB or after reduction in 
TX power) decode fine. There is one theory that it's to do with the 
accuracy of the soundcard clocks. With weakish signals some of the 
transmission is lost in the noise and the FEC will kick in and allow a 
decode by "filling in the gaps". With very strong signals no data is 
missed, and due to clock rate differnces the decode fails because the 
received bits are outide the tolerance of the decoder, timewise (A very 
poor description, sorry - Andy JNT will explain better).


This could imply that either yours or Jim's soundcard is not up to the 
job. Since Jim has had spots reported from close stations with SNRs of 
+9dB I guess this implies Jim's timing must be okay. I've seen this 
effect kick in when signals start to go into the positive SNR region.


> The only decode I got was for 'C1N/NU0RWS' in one of your non-transmit 
> periods.

That's a false decode and might indicate that you have a noise problem. 
I've seen similar gobbledegook decodes from people with high noise levels.

HTH

I'm receiving Jim consistently, in daylight, at -21dB SNR at 953km 
distance - on a Wellbrook ALA1530 loop.


Cheers,

John







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Congratulations to Gus and Laurence!

>From my Maine QTH, I had 11 hits on SM6BHZ and 4 on M0BMU last night. The spots have been uploaded to the database.

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Wheres the coffee....
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DCF39 is S7 this mng :-))
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* Marcin <bxi@go2.pl> [Mon, 14 Sep 2009 22:16:49 +0200]:
> Hi Roman!
> There was Request for Gus. :-)
> >
> > Let's try to find an correspondent with TX on 503Kc and receiver on
> > 40/80m QRV! -)

He is keep silence.

>

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HI ALL
error on the mail list excuse me
Claude F8boj jn16wa
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hi Marcin and LF
GM is f8boj error frequence in qrss3 change frequency for 137740hz  =
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qsl...F8boj Claude jn16wa----- Original Message -----=20
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Hello Jean Pierre
Your grabber regularly copy my signal:
http://www.sp2kds.pl/images/stories/f1afj.jpg
Vy 73!
Marcin SQ2BXI

Hello Marcin ,

Tnx for info , my antenna are at QTF 295=B0 (USA)

73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

Marcin a =E9crit :
> Dear Jean Pierre, LF
> It is HF70W QRSS 60 signal.
> Vy 73!
> Marcin SQ2BXI
>
>
>> Hello LF'ers ,
>>
>> I copy on 137,778 unidentified signal ?
>> 22:00 =3D> 23:00 utc ( see on picture )
>>
>> 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj
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Wow -
dx !
sri for thinking they were wrong C/W entries in that case :-(

(oh, and Mal, I don't listen on CW, it gives me a headache)

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2009/9/20 <jrusgrove@comcast.net>

>  Andy
>
> K1JT, AA1A, W1XP, W1VD and W1TAG have been watching for EU WSPR. All
> display correct station information.
>
> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Andy Talbot <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>
>  *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>  *Sent:* Sunday, September 20, 2009 6:23 AM
> *Subject:* Re: LF: G4JNT WSPR
>
>   K1JT and A1AA certainly appear to report a lot of Dx WSPR spots :-)
> I do wish users would eithe rset their callsign / locator properly or turn
> off automatic upload.
>
> Best 'real' report last night was > 2000km, a TF station
>
> Andy
> www.g4jnt.com
>
>
>
>
> On 20/09/2009, John P-G <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> Andy, LF
>>
>> Many spots last night - here's just one of them
>>
>> 2352  -6  0.4   0.503851  0 G4JNT IO90 23
>>
>> And I wasn't even the best DX!
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> John
>> GM4SLV
>> --
>> http://gm4slv.blogspot.com
>> Clousta, Shetland
>> IP90gg
>>
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<div>Wow - </div>
<div>dx !</div>
<div>sri for thinking they were wrong C/W entries in that case :-(</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>(oh, and Mal, I don&#39;t listen on CW, it gives me a headache)</div>
<div><br clear=3D"all">Andy<br><a href=3D"http://www.g4jnt.com">www.g4jnt.=
com</a><br><br>this email has been scanned for political correctness by th=
e nanny state<br><br><br></div>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/9/20 <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mail=
to:jrusgrove@comcast.net">jrusgrove@comcast.net</a>&gt;</span><br>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8e=
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<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">K1JT, AA1A, W1XP, W1VD and=A0W1TAG ha=
ve been watching for EU WSPR. All display correct station information.</fo=
nt></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Jay W1VD=A0 WD2XNS=A0 WE2XGR/2</font>=
</div>
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<div style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </div>
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=3D"andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com" href=3D"mailto:andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com"=
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<div style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"rsgb_lf_group@black=
sheep.org" href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" target=3D"_blank">=
rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a> </div></div>
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<div style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, September 20, 2009 6:=
23 AM</div>
<div style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> Re: LF: G4JNT WSPR</div>
<div><br></div></div>
<div>
<div></div>
<div class=3D"h5">
<div>K1JT and A1AA certainly appear to report a lot of Dx WSPR spots :-)</=
div>
<div>I do wish users would eithe rset their callsign / locator properly or=
 turn off automatic upload.</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>Best &#39;real&#39; report last night was &gt; 2000km, a TF station</=
div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>Andy</div>
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</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div><br><br>=A0</div>
<div><span class=3D"gmail_quote">On 20/09/2009, <b class=3D"gmail_senderna=
me">John P-G</b> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk" targ=
et=3D"_blank">gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk</a>&gt; wrote:</span>=20
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8e=
x; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">Andy, LF<br><br>Many spots las=
t night - here&#39;s just one of them<br><br>2352 =A0-6 =A00.4 =A0 0.50385=
1 =A00 G4JNT IO90 23<br>
<br>And I wasn&#39;t even the best DX!<br><br>Cheers,<br><br>John<br>GM4SL=
V<br><span>-- <br><a href=3D"http://gm4slv.blogspot.com/" target=3D"_blank=
">http://gm4slv.blogspot.com</a><br>Clousta, Shetland<br>IP90gg<br><br></s=
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LF,
F8BOJ very strong QRSS signals this morning on 137.740. Screenshot attached.
New station for me!

73, Dave IO91RM nr Windsor, S E England


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Hi Chris,

thanks for info and report !

73 de Gus SM6BHZ

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  Hi Gus,
  Your TX is Q5 here in JO01MI, talking and tones.
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Hi Claude,
Magnificent signal!
My locator KO85sv.
Argo in modes 3s and 90s

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Hello LF,

My attempt to use the soundcard for both programs at the same time is 
working:

WSPR

2056  -2  0.7   0.503931  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
2104   7  0.9   0.503931  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30



WOLF

2009-09-10 20:59:21 >WOLF10  -r 7997.017 -f 1100 -t 3 -d 5 -w 0.0000
t:  24 f: 0.145 a: 1.4 dp:105.8 ci: 0 cj:224 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t:  48 f: 0.146 a: 1.3 dp:104.1 ci: 0 cj:224 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t:  96 f: 0.145 a: 1.4 dp: 98.9 ci: 0 cj:224 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t: 192 f: 0.156 pm:352.0 jm:511 q:  6.4  5.6 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t: 288 f: 0.146 pm:629.2 jm:512 q: 11.4 11.2 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -



RX tuned to 502.4 and WOLF centre freq adjusted to 1100Hz to comensate.

Note my -r 7997.017 came from the WOLF calibration routine, as described 
earlier.

Cheers,

John


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It is currently on around 503.890kHz. Just set your RX to 502.4kHz in USB
mode with the WSPR software and it will find me if at a readable level.

73s
Roger G3XBM

2009/9/17 Chris <c.ashby435@btinternet.com>

>  Hi Roger,
> Please remind us which frequency exactly it is on.
> Thanks and 73,
> Chris, G4AYT.
>



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It is currently on around 503.890kHz. Just set your RX to 502.4kHz in USB=
 mode with the WSPR software and it will find me if at a readable level.=
 <br><br>73s<br>Roger G3XBM<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/9/17 Ch=
ris <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:c.ashby435@btinternet.com">c.a=
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<div bgcolor=3D"#ffffff">
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Hi Roger,</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Please remind us which frequency exac=
tly it is=20
on.</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Thanks and 73,</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Chris, G4AYT.</font></div></div>
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G3XBM =A0 =A0GQRP 1678 =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL G11088<br>

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Hi Jim & LF!

Started WSPR and RX'd SM6BHZ here:
http://rw3adb.narod.ru/2009/7sep2009_503.5kHz/1.jpg
503.950 is a SM6BHZ WSPR signal "loud" now.
It was possible to rx your station little bit b4, when I copy you into 
ARGO.
Std by WSPR prog up to morning.


Roman


* James Moritz <james.moritz@btopenworld.com> [Sun, 6 Sep 2009 21:05:12 
+0100]:
> Dear LF Group,
>
> The M0BMU WSPR beacon is running again - I have jacked up the antenna 
to
> increase the ERP a bit. G4WGT and G7NKS are also active - any reports
> would
> be very welcome.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
>




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Hi Warren,LF
capture XGJ
Henny pa3cpm
best 73s
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OK Dennis,
no problem, i go on transmit WSPR.
Good luck, i hope you find a G-stn to give you signals.
73 de Gus SM6BHZ


----- Original Message ----- 
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>
> Gus, thank You very much for the offer :)
> I heard You several times and the signal will be nice, for sure.
>
> My primary hope was/is to receive a signal from the west, e.g. England.
>
> Thanks again
> vy73
> Dennis
>
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>
>
> -------- Original-Nachricht --------
>> Datum: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 23:25:36 +0200
>> Von: "Gus" <begu@algonet.se>
>> An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>> Betreff: LF: Re: low noise level today -> like to RX You on 600m
>
>> Dear Dennis,
>> I just run WSPR beacon, but i can take a break and transmit for you 15
>> min.
>> Is it ok if i transmit SSB and CW beacon , 505,5 kHz USB ?
>>
>> 73 de Gus SM6BHZ
>>
>> www.sm6bhz.com
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Dennis" <Dennis.Hennig@gmx.de>
>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 11:16 PM
>> Subject: LF: low noise level today -> like to RX You on 600m
>>
>>
>> >
>> > Hi!
>> >
>> > After some tinkering I'm surprised: The usual QRM is much lower tonight
>> on
>> > 500kHz, DI2AM loud and clear by ear.
>> >
>> > I don't like to discuss pro&contra WSPR, but for today, I do not have
>> any
>> > WSPR capabilities.
>> > Would You mind to transmit a 10-15 minute CW-Beacon for me?
>> >
>> > Thanks a lot :)
>> >
>> > vy73
>> > Dennis
>> > DL6NVC
>> >
>> > Berlin JO62RM
>> >
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Dear Nicolas, Lubos, Henny and LF

Thank for HF70W raports.
Next station activity friday and saturday. 

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Hi!

After some tinkering I'm surprised: The usual QRM is much lower tonight on 500kHz, DI2AM loud and clear by ear.

I don't like to discuss pro&contra WSPR, but for today, I do not have any WSPR capabilities. 
Would You mind to transmit a 10-15 minute CW-Beacon for me? 

Thanks a lot :)

vy73
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Hi Gus, Jim, LF!

Into my location KO85ro today:
1926 -24  1.2   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
1932 -26  1.1   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
1938 -27  1.1   0.503925  1 SM6BHZ JO57 30
1958 -16  1.1   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2014 -15  1.0   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2022 -15  0.9   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2028 -15  0.9   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2032 -13  0.9   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2038 -20  0.5   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2046 -17  1.2   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2052 -25  0.3   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2056 -19  1.0   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2102 -22  1.1   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2110 -27 -0.1   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2124 -22  0.7   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2130 -15  1.3   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2134 -22  1.0   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2140 -19  1.1   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2146 -15  1.2   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2152 -20  1.3   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2200 -28  1.3   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2206 -23  1.2   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2210 -14  1.2   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2216 -15  1.3   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2224 -20  1.3   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2228 -17  1.2   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2234 -29  1.3   0.503840  0 M0BMU IO91 33
2236 -24  1.5   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2242 -25  1.5   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2246 -17  1.5   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2252 -26  1.2   0.503840  0 M0BMU IO91 33
2254 -25  1.5   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
2256 -27  1.1   0.503840  0 M0BMU IO91 33
2302 -31  1.5   0.503840  0 M0BMU IO91 33
2308 -23  1.8   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
2310 -27  1.4   0.503840  0 M0BMU IO91 33
2314 -28  1.4   0.503840  0 M0BMU IO91 33
2318 -25  1.4   0.503840  0 M0BMU IO91 33
2322 -26  1.7   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30

Glad to see M0BMU.
it was more wonderful prop last monday.
All reports next into 500-part qrss.nm.ru

73!
Roman

> Hi Gus, Jim, LF,
>
> 1920 -23 0.9 0.503926 SM6BHZ JO57 30
> 1932 -16 1.0 0.503926 SM6BHZ JO57 30
> 1938 -15 1.1 0.503927 SM6BHZ JO57 30
> 1948 -10 0.9 0.503926 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 1958 -8 0.9 0.503926 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2002 -26 0.8 0.503841 M0BMU IO91 33
> 2004 -2 1.0 0.503926 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2006 -27 0.6 0.503841 M0BMU IO91 33
> 2014 -26 1.4 0.503841 M0BMU IO91 33
> 2014 -14 0.8 0.503927 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2018 -22 0.8 0.503841 M0BMU IO91 33
> 2022 -6 1.0 0.503927 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2028 -6 0.8 0.503926 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2032 -21 0.8 0.503841 M0BMU IO91 33
> 2032 -5 0.9 0.503926 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2038 -8 1.0 0.503926 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2046 -3 1.0 0.503926 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2050 -29 0.8 0.503841 M0BMU IO91 33
> 2052 -9 0.7 0.503926 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2056 -30 0.6 0.503841 M0BMU IO91 33
> 2056 -9 0.8 0.503927 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2102 -24 0.5 0.503841 M0BMU IO91 33
> 2102 -9 0.8 0.503927 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2108 -21 0.6 0.503841 M0BMU IO91 33
> 2110 -7 0.9 0.503926 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2116 -20 0.6 0.503841 M0BMU IO91 33
> 2116 -15 0.6 0.503926 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2122 -24 2.1 0.503841 M0BMU IO91 33
> 2124 -7 0.8 0.503926 SM6BHZ JO57 40
>
> 73
> Andrey


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Tnx Chris
Will be QRV this evening agn  on CW and QSX 7033 for DX
 Best dx report this past few days was from SV
de mal/g3kev

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  Hi Mal,
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tnx Chris</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Will be&nbsp;QRV this evening agn&nbs=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;Best dx report this past few da=
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi Mal,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Copied several of your CQs on 500=
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Hello Jean-Pierre, Warren, LF!
I saw only some traces of callsign at about 03:30UT. But last night was ve=
ry quiet, without QRN. I think, we could try receive this night.

73!

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> Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 10:36:23 +0200
> From: jpm.f1afj@online.fr
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: Re: LF: xgj 07-09.jpg
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> Hi , Henny , Warren ,
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> Also i copy XGJ last night
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> 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj
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> henny van elst a =E9crit :
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Hello Jean-Pierre, Warren, LF!<br>I saw only some traces of callsign at ab=
out 03:30UT. But last night was very quiet, without QRN. I think, we could=
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***<br><br>&gt; Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 10:36:23 +0200<br>&gt; From: jpm.f1a=
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I have multiple carriers on 504kHz Roman - I think some are relatively loc=
al and some a lot more distant given the qsb/strength at dawn - I pick the=
m up on both receivers both on active and un amplified antennae so I dont=
 think all of them can be mixing artifacts, but all cant be attributed to=
 the second harmonic of RTE Ireland  on 252.=20

=20

I would suggesting avoiding 30Hz LF of 504 or its in the splatter zone for=
 me (!)=20

=20

=20

In China we have all sorts of temp civil and military beacons and as we ar=
e only 600kms from Korea, and just up from other countries so you can gues=
s that a lot dont conform to "rules". As you may have seen from the Argo's=
 from here I get all sort of temp signals appearing mostly from local devi=
ces such as variable speed motor drives/cranes/security devices as well as=
 the normal SMPSU's. My general background noise daytime is around S4-5 bu=
t at night it zooms up of course..

=20

500kHz (A1A only ) continues to be used by the coast stations here for wea=
ther, navigational warnings etc but Ive not heard any two way traffic and=
 they dont move to their assigned 4xxkHz CW working channels when the sign=
 "up".=20

=20

Cheers

Laurence in BY3A

=20
> From: rw3adb@rambler.ru
> To: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com
> Subject: Re: Moscow decodes
> Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 03:55:32 +0400
>=20
> Do you know whats a 504.0 station? What is a locator?
> I'm visible that station very strong b4 0400mscLT as usual. Then he is=
=20
> going down here.
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>=20
> --
> Roman RW3ADB.

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I have multiple carriers on 504kHz Roman&nbsp;- I think some are relativel=
y local and some a lot&nbsp;more distant given the qsb/strength at dawn -=
 I pick them up on both receivers&nbsp;both on active and un amplified ant=
ennae so I dont think all of them&nbsp;can be mixing artifacts, but all ca=
nt be attributed to the second harmonic of RTE Ireland&nbsp; on 252. <BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
I would suggesting avoiding 30Hz LF of 504 or its in the splatter zone for=
 me (!) <BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
In China we have all sorts&nbsp;of temp civil and military beacons and&nbs=
p;as we are only 600kms from Korea, and just up from other countries so&nb=
sp;you can guess that a lot dont conform to "rules". As you may have seen=
 from the Argo's from here I get all sort of temp signals appearing mostly=
 from local devices such as variable speed motor drives/cranes/security de=
vices as well as the normal SMPSU's. My general background noise daytime=
 is around S4-5 but at night it zooms up of course..<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
500kHz (A1A only )&nbsp;continues to be used by the coast stations here fo=
r&nbsp;weather, navigational warnings etc but Ive not heard any two way tr=
affic and they dont move to their assigned&nbsp;4xxkHz CW&nbsp;working cha=
nnels when the sign "up".&nbsp;<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Cheers<BR>
Laurence in BY3A<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>&gt; From: rw3adb@rambler.ru<BR>&gt; To: hellozerohellozero@hotm=
ail.com<BR>&gt; Subject: Re: Moscow decodes<BR>&gt; Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009=
 03:55:32 +0400<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Do you know whats a 504.0 station? What=
 is a locator?<BR>&gt; I'm visible that station very strong b4 0400mscLT=
 as usual. Then he is <BR>&gt; going down here.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;=
 <BR>&gt; --<BR>&gt; Roman RW3ADB.<BR><br /><hr />Get back to school stuff=
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Hi Jim....

Your email has arrived, know I know what the odd signal is on 503.5 !  hihi
not  tried to decode , but a good beat from the  speaker

G .

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Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 10:02 PM
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>
> Dear LF Group,
>
> I am now running a "standard" WOLF 10 mode beacon on 503.500kHz for the 
> next
> few hours. Any reports would be very welcome. Information and software
> downloads can be found at 
> http://freenet-homepage.de/dl4yhf/wolf/index.html.
> The beacon may shut down from time to time, because the signal seems to
> scramble my ADSL modem...
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
>
>



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Hi Warren,LF
traces XGJ
Henny pa3cpm
73s
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Warren,LF</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>traces XGJ</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Henny pa3cpm</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>73s</FONT></DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het volgende 
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Hi Gus, LF

1802   -20 -0.9   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 40
1806   -16  0.9   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 40
1812   -12  0.7   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 40
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1826   -15  1.1   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 40
1834   -17  0.6   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 40
1840   -16  0.8   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 40
1848   -10  0.8   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 40
1900   -19  1.0   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 40
1908   -11  0.7   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 40

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Success!!! Recalibrated the sound card as suggested and BINGO - decode on
first try!

2009-09-10 21:15:29 >WOLF10  -r 8100.257 -f 1000 -t 1 -w 0.0000
t:  24 f:-0.339 a:-1.5 dp: 85.6 ci: 7 cj:272 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -


73s and thanks for everyone's help tonight

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 first try!<br><br>2009-09-10 21:15:29 &gt;WOLF10=A0 -r 8100.257 -f 1000=
 -t 1 -w 0.0000<br>t:=A0 24 f:-0.339 a:-1.5 dp: 85.6 ci: 7 cj:272 M0BMU IO=
91VR 2W -<br>
<br><br>73s and thanks for everyone&#39;s help tonight<br><br>Roger G3XBM<=
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><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.g3xbm.co.uk">http://www.g3xbm.co.uk</a><br>G3XBM =A0=
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Ferrite, Ferrite and more Ferrite then!

Any suggestions as to where best to place clip on cores?  

Mains lead? 
Power lead from PSU (Icom PS55) to rig (IC735)?
All leads from ZLP interface to laptop? (Dell D610) (I currently have
ferrite clip ons on the microphone and speaker leads from ZLP to laptop)
Dell Laptop PSU?

All the above??

With best regards
 
 
Jim
 
 
Dr. James Cowburn

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JIm,

I think you  find that is  caused by 50 hz mains hum .... may be a hum loop 
in the  audio system / pc-tx earthling , not likely to  be psu problem as 
frequency is 50 (fund)  and 150 ( 3 rd harm)

I had a similar problem with my  valve HF set , that was a slight  ripple on

the PA  HT line caused by the  100% duty cycle of wspr, not part of the 
design criteria for  ssb/cw , caused  spots to appear +/-  100  Hz due to 
the  full wave  rectification in the  psu

G .

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>
> Dear Jim, LF Group,
>
>
>> Me too.  I am getting 3 traces (!) from Jim M (he is 9+10 and audible!)
>> and
>> a biggish one from Gus too
>
> I am seeing low-level (about -25dB) sidebands on your signal  at +/-50Hz 
> and
> +/-150Hz, which are giving rise to the extra spots.  I think something
> similar is happening when you receive my signal. I am not getting similar
> multiple spots from other nearby stations, nor am I seeing the same
> sidebands on other strong signals, so I think they must originate in your
> station somewhere - possibly audio being affected by mains noise, or some
> sort of residual FM of an oscillator in your rig?
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
>
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Dear LF Group,

Thanks for the reports on the WOLF beacon overnight. The beacon closed down 
at 0600utc Unfortunately, I drifted off to sleep shortly after starting it 
up ... all this beaconing is getting a bit exhausting! So I have only just 
seen the comments posted overnight.

As people have noticed, WOLF is quite critical in terms of setting-up 
required, and neccessary frequency accuracy and stability. The software 
expects the signal frequency to be within hertz of the specified value, so 
the receiver has to be accurate to this kind of level. The frequency drift 
has to be lower still, so much more demanding than WSPR. Wolf transmits a 
data frame of 10 baud BPSK lasting 96 seconds, which contains a 15-character 
message with highly redundant encoding. The 96s frame is repeated back to 
back. If the SNR is good enough, the WOLF decoder can successfully decode 
the message from only 1/4 of the complete frame after 24s. On the other 
hand,  if the signal is very weak, it allows several frames of the signal to 
be integrated over a period of time, potentially making it much more 
sensitive than WSPR. After every 96s, WOLF makes a new attempt to decode the 
accumulated signal, which is what each line of text on the decoder display 
represents.

For this to work, the timing of both transmitter and receiver have to be 
quite accurate as well as the frequency, so that the pattern of bits in 
successive frames does not get "out of step". This is governed mostly by the 
sample rate of the sound card, and for WOLF to successfully decode very weak 
signals, this needs to be calibrated within a few tens of parts per million, 
which is rather better than sound card manufacturers specify their products. 
The calibration utility in WOLF can do this by measuring the frequency of of 
an accurate audio tone, unfortunately, not every amateur has a suitably 
accurate audio source. I am using an audio source made from a TCXO and 
digital divider for calibration, made some years ago specially for this 
purpose. The problem with using an off-air signal such as 198kHz to 
calibrate the sound card is that the actual audio frequency coming out of an 
SSB/CW receiver then depends on the error in the receiver's oscillators, and 
the measured frequency depends on the error in the sound card sample rate, 
so there are two unknown errors that have to be resolved. So while an 
off-air signal can be used to calibrate the received frequency with more 
than adequate accuracy, the sound card sample rate is a bit more tricky.

The sample rate error will probably be small enough without calibration when 
the signal is strong, where successful decodes can be obtained from short 
periods of signal, but is likely to prevent the successful accumulation of a 
weak signal over many frames. Also, the experience with WSPR shows that 
quite large timing errors can appear for unknown reasons with "some 
computers". I think W1TAG has a good point about WOLF being possibly less 
satisfactory at 500kHz than 136k, due to the more rapidly changing phase in 
the propagation path at the higher frequency. The signal strength of the 
beacon in the UK and nearby during the last few days has undoubtedly been 
too high for a good assesment of the weak-signal performance of WOLF - if 
anyone is interested, I could try a low-power beacon this weekend for the 
benefit of UK stations.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU




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Ok Andrey , Tnx for info

73 Jean-Pierre

Andrey rn3agc a =E9crit :
> Hi Jean-Pierre,
> It, probably, was beacon UA4WPF.
>
> 73
> Andrey
>
>
>> Hello LF ,
>>
>> My antenna was in directection of the USA , I raised of the traces on=
=20
>> 137777. 2 , I suppose that it is ACG in beaconning !
>>
>> 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj
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My 500kHz WSPR beacon is now back on again and will run overnight tonight.

All reports appreciated. I'd also appreciate some screenshots please.

Tomorrow I will try to do a small improvement to the ground system that
might be worth a couple of dBs.

73s
Roger

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http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
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My 500kHz WSPR beacon is now back on again and will run overnight tonight.=
 <br><br>All reports appreciated. I&#39;d also appreciate some screenshots=
 please.<br><br>Tomorrow I will try to do a small improvement to the groun=
d system that might be worth a couple of dBs.<br>
<br>73s<br>Roger <br><br>-------------------------------------------------=
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Will be running tonight from about 0000 to 0500 UTC (can't start 
earlier). Set receiver for 136.1, USB. Reports are welcome.

John, W1TAG/WD2XES
FN42ch


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Hi Joe,

I'll be visiting St. John's from the 17th. to 24th., staying at
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Solar and wind powered
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EN93dr

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Andy

K1JT, AA1A, W1XP, W1VD and W1TAG have been watching for EU WSPR. All display 
correct station information.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Andy Talbot
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  Subject: Re: LF: G4JNT WSPR


  K1JT and A1AA certainly appear to report a lot of Dx WSPR spots :-)
  I do wish users would eithe rset their callsign / locator properly or turn 
off automatic upload.

  Best 'real' report last night was > 2000km, a TF station

  Andy
  www.g4jnt.com




  On 20/09/2009, John P-G <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk> wrote:
    Andy, LF

    Many spots last night - here's just one of them

    2352  -6  0.4   0.503851  0 G4JNT IO90 23

    And I wasn't even the best DX!

    Cheers,

    John
    GM4SLV
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    Clousta, Shetland
    IP90gg


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  <DIV>I do wish users would eithe rset their callsign / locator prope=
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d I wasn't=20
    even the best DX!<BR><BR>Cheers,<BR><BR>John<BR>GM4SLV<BR><SPAN cl=
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Nothing in io83lk Roger, wspr  or  spec lab  only  decoding  Jim and=
 Gus=20

G ..

G0NBD


From: rogerlapthorn@gmail.com=20
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 8:47 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: WSPR threshold reports


Thanks for the screen shots Jim.=20

I continue to be simply amazed that my tiny signal is being decoded by=
 ANYONE at all. It certainly proves what a wonderful resource WSPR is=
 for experimenting with QRP, antennas, rigs etc. on any band, but espe=
cially on 136 and 500kHz.=20

73s
Roger G3XBM



On 17 Sep 2009 20:29, James Moritz <james.moritz@btopenworld.com> wrot=
e:
> Dear Dave, Roger, LF Group,
>=20
>=20
>=20
> I have attached a screen shot of WSPR signals from SM6BHZ and G3XBM=
 received just now, using Spectrum Lab set up for QRSS3 reception. The=
 corresponding WSPR spots were:
>=20
>=20
>=20
> 1836 -12  0.0   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 33
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> 1840 -27  2.9   0.503890  0 G3XBM JO02 0
>=20
>=20
>=20
> SM6BHZ was an audible signal which would have been weak but copy-abl=
e CW - I expect Gus's signal will pick up by 10dB or so as the night=
 progresses. G3XBM is never audible at all - the QRN is building rapid=
ly now, but during the day I get 100% copy at about -25 or -26dB; when=
 noise levels build up I sometimes get correct copy at -30dB or so. So=
 that's what it looks like when it is working ;-)
>=20
>=20
>=20
> It makes no detectable difference whether I use the SSB filter or 25=
0Hz CW filter on the IC718 - even the local signals on 500k are not re=
ally strong enough to overload the audio, provided the RF gain is back=
ed well off so that the S meter reads about s7 or 8. You do need the=
 narrow filter on 136k of course.
>=20
>=20
>=20
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
>=20
> 73 de M0BMU
>=20


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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Nothing in io83lk Roger,&nbsp;wspr&nb=
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<DIV><BR></DIV>Thanks for the screen shots Jim. <BR><BR>I continue to=
 be simply=20
amazed that my tiny signal is being decoded by ANYONE at all. It certa=
inly=20
proves what a wonderful resource WSPR is for experimenting with QRP,=
 antennas,=20
rigs etc. on any band, but especially on 136 and 500kHz. <BR><BR>73s<B=
R>Roger=20
G3XBM<BR><BR><BR><BR>On 17 Sep 2009 20:29, James Moritz &lt;<A   href=
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wrote:<BR>&gt; Dear Dave, Roger, LF Group,<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;=
 <BR>&gt; I=20
have attached a screen shot of WSPR signals from SM6BHZ and G3XBM rece=
ived just=20
now, using Spectrum Lab set up for QRSS3 reception. The corresponding=
 WSPR spots=20
were:<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; 1836 -12 &nbsp;0.0 &nbsp; 0.5=
03925=20
&nbsp;0 SM6BHZ JO57 33<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; 1840 -27 &nbsp;2.9 &nbsp; 0.50=
3890=20
&nbsp;0 G3XBM JO02 0<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; SM6BHZ was an=
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signal which would have been weak but copy-able CW - I expect Gus's si=
gnal will=20
pick up by 10dB or so as the night progresses. G3XBM is never audible=
 at all -=20
the QRN is building rapidly now, but during the day I get 100% copy at=
 about -25=20
or -26dB; when noise levels build up I sometimes get correct copy at=
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so. So that's what it looks like when it is working ;-)<BR>&gt; <BR>&g=
t;=20
<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; It makes no detectable difference whether I use the=
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or 250Hz CW filter on the IC718 - even the local signals on 500k are=
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strong enough to overload the audio, provided the RF gain is backed we=
ll off so=20
that the S meter reads about s7 or 8. You do need the narrow filter on=
 136k of=20
course.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Cheers, Jim Moritz<BR>&gt;=
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73 de M0BMU<BR>&gt;=20
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Hello Marcin ,

Tnx for info , my antenna are at QTF 295=B0 (USA)

73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

Marcin a =E9crit :
> Dear Jean Pierre, LF
> It is HF70W QRSS 60 signal.
> Vy 73!
> Marcin SQ2BXI
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>> Hello LF'ers ,
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Hello LF ,

My antenna was in directection of the USA , I raised of the traces on 
137777. 2 , I suppose that it is ACG in beaconning !

73 Jean-Pierre f1afj


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Hi,LF,
Capture HF70W
Henny pa3cpm
best 73s
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Look it pse, Jim:
http://rw3adb.narod.ru/2009/7sep2009_503.5kHz/503.5W_3_00006.jpg
http://rw3adb.narod.ru/2009/7sep2009_503.5kHz/503.5W_3_00008.jpg
Is't your signal?

Roman

* James Moritz <james.moritz@btopenworld.com> [Sun, 6 Sep 2009 21:11:44 
+0100]:
> ...I should have said that it is on 503.975kHz, 502.4k "dial 
frequency"
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "James Moritz" <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 9:05 PM
> Subject: LF: WSPR beacon
>
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> > Dear LF Group,
> >
> > The M0BMU WSPR beacon is running again - I have jacked up the 
antenna
> to
> > increase the ERP a bit. G4WGT and G7NKS are also active - any 
reports
> > would be very welcome.
> >
> > Cheers, Jim Moritz
> > 73 de M0BMU
> >
>
>




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Andy,

Showing well with the  -6 db power level, Using the  35  ft top loaded=
 vertical , tuned with the  atu and the  FT-897-d, atten 'on'  rf gain=
 backed to  show  6 s points   the  odd -33 spot  was the FT897 warmin=
g up ( I will sent it to the data base for removal)=20

tnx- G .=20



       2009-09-19 13:22   G4JNT   0.503850   -20   0   IO90iv   0.2 =
  G0NBD   IO83   311   338 =20
       2009-09-19 13:12   G4JNT   0.503850   -19   0   IO90iv   0.2 =
  G0NBD   IO83   311   338 =20
       2009-09-19 13:06   G4JNT   0.503918   -33   0   IO90iv   0.2 =
  G0NBD   IO83   311   338 =20
       2009-09-19 13:06   G4JNT   0.503850   -20   0   IO90iv   0.2 =
  G0NBD   IO83   311   338 =20







From: Andy Talbot=20
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2009 1:49 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Subject: Re: LF: Re: 'JNT Dual purpose beacons


Dropped to 33% DutyCycle - the fan on the PA had kicked-in and I prefe=
r to keep things so the fan only comes on for Tx periods in hot weathe=
r.  =20

WSPR Power still -6dB

Andy
www.g4jnt.com

this email has been scanned for political correctness by the nanny sta=
te



2009/9/19 James Moritz <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>

  Dear Andy,

  Looking, well, nominal here...


  1206  -1  1.6   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
  1210  -1  1.2   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
  1214  -1  0.2   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
  1222  -1  0.2   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
  1226  -1  0.2   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
  1228  -1  0.1   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23

  ... spots are being uploaded to WSPRnet.org database.=20


  Cheers, Jim Moritz
  73 de M0BMU






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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Andy,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Showing well with the&nbsp; -6 db pow=
er level,=20
Using the&nbsp; 35&nbsp; ft top loaded vertical , tuned with the&nbsp;=
 atu and=20
the&nbsp; FT-897-d, atten 'on'&nbsp; rf gain backed to&nbsp; show&nbsp=
; 6 s=20
points &nbsp; the&nbsp; odd -33 spot&nbsp; was the FT897 warming up (=
 I will=20
sent it to the data base for removal) </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>tnx- G . </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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    <TD align=3Dright>&nbsp;2009-09-19 13:22&nbsp;</TD>
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to:andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com">Andy Talbot</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, September 19, 2009 1:49 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A   title=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org&#10;=
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: Re: 'JNT Dual purpose beacons</DIV></DIV>=
</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Dropped to 33% DutyCycle - the fan&nbsp;on the PA had kicked-in=
 and I=20
prefer&nbsp;to keep&nbsp;things so the fan&nbsp;only&nbsp;comes on&nbs=
p;for Tx=20
periods&nbsp;in&nbsp;hot weather.&nbsp;&nbsp; </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>WSPR Power still -6dB</DIV>
<DIV><BR clear=3Dall>Andy<BR><A   href=3D"http://www.g4jnt.com">www.g4=
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for political correctness by the nanny state<BR><BR><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>2009/9/19 James Moritz <SPAN dir=3Dltr>&lt;<A=
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oking, well, nominal=20
  here...<BR><BR><BR>1206 &nbsp;-1 &nbsp;1.6 &nbsp; 0.503850 &nbsp;0=
 G4JNT IO90=20
  23<BR>1210 &nbsp;-1 &nbsp;1.2 &nbsp; 0.503850 &nbsp;0 G4JNT IO90 23<=
BR>1214=20
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On 13 Sep 2009 at 16:51, Roger Lapthorn wrote:

> However, nothing ventured nothing gained, *I will put this WSPR TX on
> the air this evening* starting shortly in case *anyone* can hear me. 
> Any WSPR spot reports would fill me with total amazement and delight.
> 

What actual frequency are you transmitting on Roger? As you might have 
gathered I do have a bit of a problem calibrating WSPR and decoding.... 
I am running it now, and Argo, and seeing a moderately strong WSPR 
signal but no decodes. It may of course be Gus or somebody else. It 
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James Cowburn wrote:
> This is beats 20m ssb dx anyday for "wow" factor!
> 


Indeed!

I'm also running WSPR on 5MHz - sometimes TX, more usually RX only, and 
Alan G4ZFQ on the Isle of Wight has been running some low power tests 
with me.

So far I've been able to receive him when he's been using 0.3mW TX 
power..... at 1036km distance

Now that beats "your report is 59 please repeat your name and QTH"

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John

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Dear Chris,

Re: your successful reception of WOLF with large frequency offsets, this is 
quite interesting, since normally the mode is not very tolerant of errors in 
the frequency settings. Next time (if there is one...) it would be 
interesting to see what the decoder output looks like when you do this.

In its present experimental form, WOLF is certainly not very easy to set up. 
Some brave souls have completed 2-way QSOs, but it has to be said that as a 
2-way communications mode it is not yet fully developed either. Much of the 
difficulty is due to shortcomings of the hardware being used to transmit and 
receive it, especially sound cards. You have to remember that sound cards 
are really designed to generate sound effects to accompany the escapades of 
Sonic the Hedgehog, or for listening to your favorite illegal Drum 'n' Bass 
downloads, neither of which need great precision in frequency, so getting 
them to work for sophisticated communications DSP is bound to be fiddly 
sometimes.

It is certainly true that a 2-way QSO between M0BMU and G4AYT would be much 
easier using CW, or PSK31, or any of several quite well developed modes that 
are available. But if you are trying to work DX stations on LF or MF, most 
of the time you cannot hear their signals at all, nor they yours, so 
contacts in CW are impossible. But modes like WSPR, QRSS and perhaps WOLF 
can function with much lower signal levels and make these QSOs possible, if 
not as easy and convenient as one might like.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU




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Hi Warren LF,
Nice capture XGJ
Henny pa3cpm
best 73s
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James Cowburn wrote:
> Dear LF
> 
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> 
> G7NKS is back on tonight with a new umbrella antenna under test.  
> 
>  
> 
> 10m vertical element with 4x8m capacity wires sloping down at 45degrees.
> Not ideal but a little better than the old "L".   

James,

This is much the same antenna as I've used on 500kHz. I started with 12m 
height, but Shetland weather saw to that.... I then used 8m, with 
sloping capacity wires of approx 6m, acting as guys (insulators at the 
lower ends ends and nylon rope for the last section to the guying points.)

I tuned it with a variety of fixed and tapped inductors and matched to 
50 ohms with a tapped ferrite transformer, all in a plastic bin at the 
feed point. A run of 50 ohm feeder back to the shack.

I've had reports and QSOs (in-band and cross-band) from at least the 
follwing: G/GW/GM/GI/EI/LA/SM/DL/OH/F/PA/ON and probably others. I've 
had QSOs with powers as low as 100mW TX power and up to 200W TX power.

My estimate of the ERP for 100W TX power is 4-500mW on a good day (very 
dependant on ground losses which affect the antenna current and hence 
the radiated power).

Hope you have success with it.

John
GM4SLV

-- 
http://gm4slv.blogspot.com
Clousta, Shetland
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Dear LF,



regarding intercontinental LF propagation, 100 kHz Loran is currently showing traces in Europe during the following approximate time windows:
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Japan: 17 - 21 UT (Minami Torishima ending an hour earlier)
China: 16 - 22 UT
American east coast: 21 - 06 UT
South and central US: 01 - 05 UT
Transpolar (Port Clarence AK): 21 - 03 UT (still weak)



For details and day-to-day variations, see http://freenet-homepage.de/df6nm/LoranView/LoranView.htm



Kind regards,

Markus, DF6NM



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<div>Dear LF,</div>


<div>&nbsp;</div>


<div>regarding intercontinental LF propagation, 100 kHz Loran is currently showing traces in Europe during the following approximate time windows:<br>
&nbsp;<br>
Japan: 17 - 21 UT (Minami Torishima ending an hour earlier)<br>
China: 16 - 22 UT<br>
American east coast: 21 - 06 UT<br>
South and central US: 01 - 05 UT<br>
Transpolar (Port Clarence AK): 21 - 03 UT (still weak)</div>


<div>&nbsp;</div>


<div>For details and day-to-day variations, see <A href="http://freenet-homepage.de/df6nm/LoranView/LoranView.htm">http://freenet-homepage.de/df6nm/LoranView/LoranView.htm</A></div>


<div>&nbsp;</div>


<div>Kind regards,</div>


<div>Markus, DF6NM</div>


<div>&nbsp;</div>

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John ,
you are right !
I hope that conds stay untill tomorrow night ! :-)
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> Gus,
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>> yes it seams like it is good conds this evening.
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> Very good, with lots of hits starting at 2330 UTC.
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Hello LF'ers,
Question to Jim M0BMU and all who will work further WSPR on 137...
It is possible to move transmission frequencies WSPR in area 137.1?

73 Andrey


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Gus, LF group
This evening strong copy your WSPR beacon: +11dB.
--
Vy 73!
Marcin SQ2BXI


> Marcin,
> 
> thank you for report and info!
> 
> 73 de Gus SM6BHZ
> www.sm6bhz.com
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Marcin" <bxi@go2.pl>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 12:46 AM
> Subject: LF: Re: wspr 
> 
> 
> > Dear Gus, LF Group
> > This evening very strong copy your WSPR beacon:
> > 
> > 2158   6  0.2   0.503951  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> > 2206   3  0.9   0.503951  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> > 2214   7  1.0   0.503951  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> > 2222   1  0.9   0.503951  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> > 2232   2  0.9   0.503951  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> > 2236  10  0.8   0.503951  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> > 2242   9  0.8   0.503951  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> > 
> > Maximum signal +10dB !
> > --
> > Vy 73!
> > Marcin SQ2BXI
> > 
> >
> 
> 
> 


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Hi jean-Pierre!

You are oriented right, I'm looked!
There is no TX stations from russia today.
Andrey RN3AGC started his grabber and no TX, Anatoly UA4WPF TX'd 1 cycle 
around 2230mscLT and finished.
I'm onto 503 kHz now, looking WSPR beacons.
If I looked info from WPF next time I'm let you know!

73!
Roman


* "\"Jean-Pierre MĂŠrĂŠ (F1AFJ)\"" <jpm.f1afj@online.fr> [Sun, 06 Sep 2009 
22:49:40 +0200]:
> Roman ,
> My grabber is ON ,
> antenna at QTF 60Â° for 2 hours ,
> after i swich in USA direction !
> 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj
>
> Roman RW3ADB a ĂŠcrit :
> > Hi Jean-Pierre & LF agn!
> > Yep, condx are very good!
> > I was surprised last night!
> > I'm put the screenshots from all night into QRSS-90 mode and half of
> > night in QRSS-120 onto my report 136-page:
> > http://qrss.nm.ru/136.html
> >
> > 73!
> > Roman
> >
> > * "\"Jean-Pierre MĂŠrĂŠ (F1AFJ)\"" <jpm.f1afj@online.fr> [Sun, 06 Sep
> > 2009 19:42:47 +0200]:
> >> Hi  Roman ,
> >> Tnx , good conditions !
> >> 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj
> >>
> >> Roman RW3ADB a ĂŠcrit :
> >> > Hello Jean-Pierre & LF!
> >> > It was an UA4WPF beacon.He was visible very good during the last
> > night
> >> > into my grabber in Moscow.
> >> > http://rw3adb.narod.ru/2009/5sep2009_UA4WPF/137.07W_90_00009.jpg
> >> > http://rw3adb.narod.ru/2009/5sep2009_UA4WPF/137.07W_120_00002.jpg
> >> > Was traced onto your grabber and DF6NM too.
> >> >
> >> > * "\"Jean-Pierre MĂŠrĂŠ (F1AFJ)\"" <jpm.f1afj@online.fr> [Sun, 06 
Sep
> >> > 2009 13:59:27 +0200]:
> >> >> Ok Andrey , Tnx for info
> >> >>
> >> >> 73 Jean-Pierre
> >> >>
> >> >> Andrey rn3agc a ĂŠcrit :
> >> >> > Hi Jean-Pierre,
> >> >> > It, probably, was beacon UA4WPF.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > 73
> >> >> > Andrey
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> Hello LF ,
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> My antenna was in directection of the USA , I raised of the
> > traces
> >> > on
> >> >> >> 137777. 2 , I suppose that it is ACG in beaconning !
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Roman RW3ADB.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Roman RW3ADB.
> >
> >
> >
>




--
Roman RW3ADB.


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Bonsoir Claude,

Ant: 2 x 2 m loop of 8 turns, series resonant at 137kHz.  Loop adjusted to=
 minimise France Inter on 162kHz (reduction of 34dB).

RX: Lowe HF250 set to CW (LSB) with 2,2kHz filter.  Line level output goes=
 to an external USB soundcard feeding an XP system which runs Argo V1 buil=
d 134.

Si vous voulez, je peux correspondre en fran=E7ais.

73
John Rabson=20
F5VLF
58800 Cervon
France
JN17vg

*********** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***********

On 22/09/2009 at 17:52 Claude Berthebaud wrote:

>Good evening John
>Can you give me your conditions of reception in any case thank you for=20
>control at the moment I can not go below 20w hi ..
>thank you again
>F8boj Claude JN16WA
>----- Original Message -----=20
>From: "John RABSON" <john.rabson@numeo.fr>
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>Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 5:45 PM
>Subject: Fwd: LF: F8BOJ 30dB over QRN on 137
>
>
>> Still 30dB over and 569 by ear at 1545z.
>>
>> F5VLF
>>
>> *********** BEGIN FORWARDED MESSAGE  ***********
>>
>> On 22/09/2009 at 17:35 John RABSON <john.rabson@numeo.fr> wrote:
>>
>>>At 1532z.
>>>
>>>F5VLF
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> *********** END FORWARDED MESSAGE  ***********
>>
>>
>>
>>





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Roger Lapthorn wrote:
>  Overnight tonight I shall be running the WSPR beacon again in the hope that
> a few more people may spot my tiny signal.

Roger, LF,

Still no copy here, but it's early days!

I've moved the MF WSPR receiver to 160m if you fancy a daytime test on 
that band, as a comparison?

Dial = 1.8366MHz

Will leave it running and reporting spots while I'm at work.



Cheers,

John
GM4SLV



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Dave,

I think the  signal level V signal quality may be a major  factor, Gary is 
quite  close to me and  as he mentioned doesn't  always decode my signal, 
contrary and oddly my off line monitor  (ft897 with 20 feet end fed floating 
vertical to the  chimney stack)  produced reliable decodes all night ... 
capturing Gus and Jim in the  quite windows and my signal with a 'huge'  red 
centre  line and 50% of the  window  green ..

But  from last winter, I think it was determined that the  clock speed of 
the  audio card was the  main factor, various posts on the  user  group did 
tend to confirm this, but seems to date there no provision for a correction 
factor.

Following this , it looks like the  'less is more' syndrome applies, with 
missing a percentage of the  sync 'pulses'  resulting in a reliable de-code 
where as a 100% decode may fail, perhaps due to some form of 'quality check' 
in the  package ?

Last night  I ran two separate stations , with  tx/rx  from one pc and the 
off air decode from the  second, the decodes from the  ft897 showed Jim and 
Gus Dt to  be similar to the  reporting  data base , where as my  tx was 
showing 1.5   dt ..  both pc's share the same  radio network and  where 
running the  Dim-4 software, (Note Johns comments re d4)  so with in the 
same qth, same web link there was a displayed error of 1.5

was this  error recorded by other  stations ? , the dt is  not shown on the 
web data base

73- G ..


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>
> I have just been doing some more tests on 30m. Clock errors might well
> have been part of the problem. Initially on 30m the few decodes I was
> seeing were showing a DT of over 3s, so I had a play with the dsec
> setting, and setting that to -3.5 brought me rather more spots with DTs
> around 0. I noticed at that time that my computer clock was indeed
> around 3secs out relative to MSF, but that doesn't tie in with when I
> was listening to Jim earlier when it was no further than 0.5s
> different, even after an internet resynch. Surely my PC clock didn't
> drift 3s in a couple of hours....
>
> As to strong signals failing to decode, thanks for the information. I
> am using the built in sound chip on the motherboard, and as you know
> these are always a bit ropey, so it may be the reason. I have another
> problem at the moment, in that I have just fitted a fixed level audio
> output connection to the K2 and I think I have got its level a bit high
> - I have to set the input level in WSPR to virtually zero to get around
> 0dB input. I shall be turning it down a bit next time I have to go
> inside the K2.
>
> It does look as if some aspects of WSPR are a bit finnicky though, not
> too impressed myself but if it means you are spotted in AA1A land it is
> obviously serving a good purpose. But for working Hatfield from
> Bracknell I guess there are quicker ways...
>
> 73 Dave G3YMC
>
> On 5 Sep 2009 at 12:17, James Moritz wrote:
>
>> Dear Daves, LF Group,
>>
>> Thanks for the overnight reports - the beacon was shut down at 0925utc
>> here. I see several spots in the database from AA1A - the first time
>> M0BMU has been copied in the US this season, thanks Dave.
>>
>> In answer to YMC Dave's questions:
>> 1) I don't know of an actual figure for required frequency stability,
>> but more than several Hz drift during a 2 minute period would be a
>> problem. But a drift of 1Hz in 2min is small enough. Some of the HF
>> people have problems with rigs heating and cooling between transmit and
>> receive cycles and the resulting cyclic drift. Using a converter and
>> receiver with seperate oscillators will certainly tend to multiply drift
>> problems.
>>
>> 2) I have not so far had much success with internet based clock
>> synchronisation utilities, so at the moment I am just setting my PC
>> clock against an MSF clock at the start of each session - this is
>> adequate, but my PC does drift a few seconds overnight. Having said
>> that, I was being received OK by a number of other stations this
>> morning. The transmission is supposed to start on each even minute, and
>> have a duration of 110.6 seconds.
>>
>> 3) WSPR seems to have good dynamic range, provided the RX and sound card
>> gains are adjusted so that overload does not occur. Certainly, it is
>> possible to receive rather weak signals giving just a faint trace in the
>> noise on the waterfall display at the same time as strong "red" traces
>> occur - a range of 40dB or more. Even if a strong signal does cause
>> overload, the randomised transmit periods mean that only a fraction of
>> the weak signal time slots will be affected. I have not noticed any
>> problem with decoding strong WSPR signals here, although there are not
>> really any "very" strong signals.
>>
>> The "false decodes" occur from time to time, apparently more when
>> narrow-band QRM is present. If you read W1JT's description of the
>> various JT modes, he has made a trade-off between excluding decoded weak
>> signals that contain a lot of noise but could be correct, and falsely
>> decoding noise that by chance resembles a signal. In practice, they are
>> not really an issue, due to the fact that the callsign is encoded with
>> other information (for WSPR the locator and power output) and these
>> would have to be consistent with the callsign for the signal to be
>> accepted as valid. Even if the falsely decoded callsign is plausible, it
>> is extremely unlikely that the locator would be correct, and
>> astronomically unlikely that the same decode would be generated from
>> noise at multiple receiving stations on multiple occasions. Using these
>> types of criteria, false decodes are periodically stripped out of the
>> WSPR database.
>>
>> A number of people have had problems with strong signals failing to
>> decode, on HF as well as 500kHz. We did some investigation of this last
>> winter; there may be more than one cause, but one issue is that some
>> sound cards/operating systems appear to generate significant timing
>> errors, which over the relatively long transmission period of WSPR
>> accumulate to mess things up. This results in some receivers failing to
>> decode some transmitters. One way to test this is to receive a strong
>> WSPR signal, but then after about 40s or a minute from the start of a
>> transmission disconnect the audio to the PC or turn the gain down to
>> zero. There is enough data in the shortened signal to decode, but less
>> time for timing errors to accumulate. If this results in successful
>> decoding, then a timing error of this sort seems likely, which could be
>> at either TX or RX. Weak signals may decode fine, because parts of the
>> signal are "missing" due to noise and fading. So another possible test
>> is to reduce gain until the strong signal is just a weak trace on the
>> waterfall in the receiver noise, and see if correct decoding occurs
>> then.
>>
>> Cheers, Jim Moritz
>> 73 de M0BMU
>>
>>
>
>
> http://www.davesergeant.com
>
>
>



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Nil seen so far is he still TX
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James Moritz wrote:
> Dear LF Group,
> 
> I am now running a "standard" WOLF 10 mode beacon 


Jim,

Now I'm going to have to learn something else new.... is there no end to 
this?

What's wrong with plain CW?

Of course there's nothing to beat the weekly stage coach.

:-)

Give me a day or two and I'll try RX in WOLF mode.

Cheers,

John
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Hi Roger,
Please remind us which frequency exactly it is on.
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Hello LF!
I changed my aerials and the results is more better. I just see SM6BHZ and G4WGT.

1940  -3  1.0   1.503951  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
1942 -29  2.3   1.503911  0 G4WGT IO83 27
1946  -2  1.2   1.503951  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40

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Hello LF!<br>I changed my aerials and the results is more better. I just see SM6BHZ and G4WGT.<br><br>1940&nbsp; -3&nbsp; 1.0&nbsp;&nbsp; 1.503951&nbsp; 0 SM6BHZ JO57 40<br>1942 -29&nbsp; 2.3&nbsp;&nbsp; 1.503911&nbsp; 0 G4WGT IO83 27<br>1946&nbsp; -2&nbsp; 1.2&nbsp;&nbsp; 1.503951&nbsp; 0 SM6BHZ JO57 40<br><br>Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS<br><br /><hr />Ve službě Windows Live můžete uspořádat, upravit a <a href='http://www.microsoft.com/cze/windows/windowslive/products/photo-gallery-edit.aspx' target='_new'>sdílet své fotografie.</a></body>
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Thanks Paul-Henrik, I was testing a new QRO TX. Hope to be fully operational
soon.

73
Dave
G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK

2009/9/22 Paul-Henrik <phl@netikka.fi>

> LF
>
> Just received some short carriers + TEST G3YXM
>
> Nice signal, 559 on 502.5kHz 1950UTC
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> The IC-718 was/is standing watch using the stock SSB filter :)
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> 73
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> Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
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Thanks Paul-Henrik, I was testing a new QRO TX. Hope to be fully operation=
al soon.<br><br>73<br>Dave<br>G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK<br><br><div class=
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<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204,=
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<br>
Just received some short carriers + TEST G3YXM<br>
<br>
Nice signal, 559 on 502.5kHz 1950UTC<br>
<br>
The IC-718 was/is standing watch using the stock SSB filter :)<br>
<br>
73<br>
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Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ<br>
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Roman,

thank's report and info !
If all work good i will run all night.

73 de Gus


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>* Gus <begu@algonet.se> [Thu, 24 Sep 2009 20:18:39 +0200]:
>> Dear LF,
>>
>> this evening i test an SSB Beacon, QRG 508 kHz LSB.
>> Reports are welcome.
> 
> Whats time you planing to finish?
> Best reports for yesterday between 2230-0040 UTC
> 
> 090923 2224  11 -20  1.2   0.503923  SM6BHZ JO57 33          0     1 
> 0
> 090923 2232  20 -13  1.4   0.503923  SM6BHZ JO57 33          0     1 
> 0
> 090923 2236  19 -14  1.4   0.503923  SM6BHZ JO57 33          0     1 
> 0
> 090923 2242  21 -11  1.2   0.503923  SM6BHZ JO57 33          0     1 
> 0
> 090923 2246  12 -21  1.4   0.503923  SM6BHZ JO57 33          0     1 
> 0
> 090923 2252  17 -17  1.4   0.503923  SM6BHZ JO57 33          0     1 
> 0
> 090923 2258  20 -13  1.4   0.503923  SM6BHZ JO57 33          0     1 
> 0
> 090923 2302  23  -9  1.5   0.503923  SM6BHZ JO57 33          0     1 
> 0
> 090923 2308  22 -11  1.3   0.503923  SM6BHZ JO57 33          0     1 
> 0
> 090923 2312  23 -10  1.4   0.503923  SM6BHZ JO57 33          0     1 
> 0
> 090923 2318  22 -10  1.4   0.503923  SM6BHZ JO57 33          0     1 
> 0
> 090923 2326  20 -12  1.6   0.503923  SM6BHZ JO57 33          0     1 
> 0
> 090923 2330  16 -16  1.7   0.503923  SM6BHZ JO57 33          0     1 
> 0
> 090923 2334  13 -19  1.6   0.503923  SM6BHZ JO57 33          0     1 
> 0
> 090923 2340  20 -12  1.7   0.503923  SM6BHZ JO57 33          0     1 
> 0
> 090923 2344  24 -10  1.4   0.503923  SM6BHZ JO57 33          0     1 
> 0
> 090923 2348  22 -10  1.6   0.503923  SM6BHZ JO57 33          0     1 
> 0
> 090923 2356  25  -7  1.6   0.503923  SM6BHZ JO57 33          0     1 
> 0
> 090924 0004  26  -7  1.8   0.503923  SM6BHZ JO57 33          0     1 
> 0
> 090924 0012  20 -13  1.7   0.503923  SM6BHZ JO57 33          0     1 
> 0
> 090924 0018  24  -9  1.8   0.503923  SM6BHZ JO57 33          0     1 
> 0
> 090924 0024  17 -15  1.9   0.503923  SM6BHZ JO57 33          0     1 
> 0
> 090924 0032  13 -17  2.0   0.503923  SM6BHZ JO57 33          0    62 
> 0
> 090924 0038  11 -20  2.0   0.503923  SM6BHZ JO57 33          0     1 
> 0
> 
>> 73 de Gus SM6BHZ
>> www.sm6bhz.com
>>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --
> Roman RW3ADB.
>




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--- On Mon, 9/21/09, James Moritz <james.moritz@btopenworld.com> wrote:

> or those who are just not morse operators. 

I've been waiting to see a comment like this; I would fall into
such a catagory, and don't care what others think about it.
I am not a morse operator !! NOT, because I can't; I just don't
like it !!!! So I don't haggle the guys that do, nor do I try
to interefere with their operation.

" Change; ( of any type ) is the most resisted force on earth ".



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On 15 Sep 2009 at 7:12, Dave G3WCB wrote:

> No sign of any other stations last night. I'll be able to monitor again
> on Wednesday evening.

G7NKS was also on, as you see a bit weaker than Gus but seemed to be 
sharing the same time slots.
(note this is WSJT7 output, which is all that will run on my sound 
card:
Time, Sync, dB, DT, DF, Drift, Call, Locator
where DF is the relative frequency to the centre, 503.9kHz (give or 
take a few Hz...)

184000  10  -8  2.9    32  1  G7NKS IO92 23         
184400  10  -3  2.4    32  0  SM6BHZ JO57 40        
184800   7  -9  2.9    40  1  G7NKS IO92 23         
185000   8  -3  2.4    34  0  SM6BHZ JO57 40        
185800  13  -1  2.4    24  0  SM6BHZ JO57 40        
185800   9 -11  2.7    33  0  G7NKS IO92 23         
190200   6  -5  2.4    24  1  SM6BHZ JO57 40        
191000  11   4  2.3    24  0  SM6BHZ JO57 40        
191000   5 -14  2.9    34  0  G7NKS IO92 23

73 Dave G3YMC
         
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Hello LF!

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That seems to  be a reasonable situation Jim ?.

After  running the wspr  system for a considerable time, with the  504 
carrier in the  pass band, it seems 'not' to cause false decodes as I 
originally feared, from this, I would  suggest that  the  top section of the 
band be retained for  wspr usage , possibly raising the dial set  100 hz ?

As I am 'fortunate' (?) to  receive  the 504  signal at a level where the 
'am'   modulation may be resolved at times , it can be observed that a 
clear window exists close in to the  carrier  frequency, approaching  100 hz 
wide, the  same exists on the  hf side of the signal, wide enough for wspr 
operations.

This may also  be beneficial to the  g4jnt multi mode beacon, which, due to 
antenna 'q'  may not  welcome a change of  tx frequency from  the top to the 
bottom of the  band dictated by mode ?

G ..

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>
> Dear Graham, LF Group,
>
>> As the  European allocation looks to  be  wider than the  Uk, are we
>> expecting the  UK 3 Khz  allocation to  remain as is, if  and when the
>> band is formalised ?, in which case loosing 200 hz may not be the  most
>> sensible option ...
>
> As I understand it, there are not yet any formal Europe-wide proposals, 
> just
> what individual regulators have allocated on a case-by-case basis. I think
> G, EI, and ON have all allocated 501 - 504. The DL beacons and OK0EMW are
> licenced to use spot frequencies around 505kHz. Gus SM6BHZ would be able 
> to
> use 504.0 - 504.1kHz.
>
>>
>> As by definition , if you  can transmit wspr  you  must be  able to  move
>> transmit  frequency (noting Andy's new beacon) establishing an over
>> lapping 100 hz section may be a reasonable  compromise ie move the  dial
>> frequency to say  502.5  or  499.5 , leaving 100 hz in band for uk access
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "James Moritz" <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>
>> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 2:14 PM
>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Subject: LF: Re: US 500-kHz band plan
>>
>>>
>>> Dear LF Group,
>>>
>>> I still haven't replied to Fritz Raab, W1FR, regarding the WD2XSH US 
>>> band
>>> plan which he is apparently coordinating - you may remember I posted the
>>> US
>>> proposals, which he sent me, a couple of weeks ago, but have not 
>>> received
>>> any comments from other UK/Eu stations. I think I should reply with
>>> something, so now is your chance... The proposal relates to the US
>>> allocation extending to 495 - 515kHz, and how that would fit in with
>>> current
>>> UK and Eu beacon operations. The content of the e-mail is below. The
>>> issue
>>> is that they would like to make a 501.0 - 501.2kHz WSPR sub-band, to fit
>>> in
>>> with the various other proposals. Various other types of beacon modes 
>>> are
>>> allocated frequencies outside the UK/EI/ON 501 - 504kHz range, while
>>> 501.2 -
>>> 504kHz is allocated to "general comms". Retaining frequencies just below
>>> 504kHz would divide their "general comms" band in two
>>>
>>> I don't think there is anything preventing us from doing this, it is 
>>> just
>>> the inconvenience of turning the current band "upside-down". Let me know
>>> what you think!
>>>
>>> Cheers, Jim Moritz
>>> 73 de M0BMU
>>>
>>>>>>From W1FR:
>>>
>>> Greetings:
>>>
>>>     Thanks for the comments on the band plan, passed
>>> along to me by W1XP.
>>>
>>>     About a month ago, a modification to the WD2XSH
>>> license was approved that adds stations and gives us
>>> access to 495 - 510 kHz.  Perhaps half of the 42 stations
>>> will eventually get on the air.  Because of NDBs, some
>>> stations are limited to parts of this band and we will
>>> have two calling frequencies and two beacon bands.
>>>
>>>     A draft of our new band plan follows.  Of particular
>>> interest is WSPR.  As I see it, our options are:
>>>
>>> (a)  501.0-501.2:  Conveniently on one side of our comms
>>>     band.  Will not overload WSPR receivers near 504 kHz.
>>>     Apparently in EU CW-beacon band.
>>>
>>> (b)  503.8-504.0:  Apparently same as what you guys are
>>>     using.  Cuts our comms band in the middle.  Nearby
>>>     stations may overload US receivers trying to hear EUs.
>>>
>>> (c)  503.9-504.1:  Same problems as above with cutting
>>>     comms band in two and overloading.  Conveniently
>>>     straddles both G/ON/EI and Canadian bands.
>>>
>>>     Any further thoughts you may have will be
>>> appreciated.
>>>
>>>
>>> 73, Fritz, W1FR
>>>
>>> Frederick H. (Fritz) Raab, Ph.D.
>>> GREEN MOUNTAIN RADIO RESEARCH COMPANY
>>> 77 Vermont Avenue, Fort Ethan Allen
>>> Colchester, Vermont 05446  USA
>>> Tel./Fax.:  +1 (802) 655-9670  Home:  +1 (802) 862-0997
>>> E-mail:  f.raab@ieee.org
>>>
>>> BASIC BAND PLAN for WD2XSH
>>>
>>> f, kHz          USE
>>>
>>> 495.0 - 495.1   QRSS, 1-Hz spacing, 40 stations
>>> 495.1 - 495.6   CW/PSK beacons midwest, 100-Hz spacing, 10 stations
>>> 495.6 - 499.0   Comms
>>> 497.5           Calling frequency
>>> 499.0 - 501.0   Reserved for heritage stations and special events
>>> 501.0 - 501.2   WSPR
>>> 501.2 - 505.0   Comms
>>> 505.0 - 505.2   DX window
>>> 505.2 - 508.5   Comms
>>> 507.5           Calling frequency
>>> 508.5 - 510.0   CW/PSK beacons east, south, west, Pacific, 50-Hz 
>>> spacing,
>>> 30
>>> stations
>>> 510.0 - 511.0   WE2XGR beacons
>>> 511.0 - 515.0   WE2XGR SSB and wideband modes
>>>
>>>
>>> OTHER IN-BAND SIGNALS
>>>
>>> 503.976         NEED LSB
>>> 505.0           NEED carrier
>>> 506.024         NEED USB
>>>
>>> 508.976         OF/FA LSB
>>> 510.0           OF/FA carrier
>>> 511.024         OF/FA USB
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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Dear Graham, LF Group,

The SNR you see with Spectrum Lab will depend also on the relation between 
the spectrogram bandwidth (depending mostly on the resolution of the Fast 
Fourier Transform process) and the spectrum of the signal being monitored. 
Usually, the signal has a larger bandwidth than the FFT "bin", so varying 
amounts of signal appear in different bins. So the SNR measured from the 
spectrum graph is only useful as a relative measure between signals of the 
same type, without further analysis to total up the signal power in 
different bins.

To get the SNR for a particular mode from the WSPR SNR data for 2500Hz BW, 
you need to take the different bandwidths into account:

mode SNR(dB) = WSPR SNR - 10log(mode bandwidth / 2500Hz)

So if WSPR was giving SNR of -10dB, the SNR for PSK31 with 62Hz bandwidth 
would be +6.1dB.

What SNR is actually needed for successful copy depends on the type of 
modulation, the effectiveness of error correction, how good the demodulator 
is, what the nature of the noise is, etc. I suppose for most modes it is 
between about 0 and +several dB

Cheers, Jim moritz
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AA1A/Dave puts out a big signal on 500 CW, surprised you have not hear=
d him. I had several QSO'S earlier on in the year with him.
G3KEV

  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  K1JT and A1AA certainly appear to report a lot of Dx WSPR spots :-)
  I do wish users would eithe rset their callsign / locator properly=
 or turn off automatic upload.

  Best 'real' report last night was > 2000km, a TF station

  Andy
  www.g4jnt.com



  =20
  On 20/09/2009, John P-G <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk> wrote:=20
    Andy, LF

    Many spots last night - here's just one of them

    2352  -6  0.4   0.503851  0 G4JNT IO90 23

    And I wasn't even the best DX!

    Cheers,

    John
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agn thanks report and info !
Not bad for a singel W ..

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> OK Gus
> 
> today:
> 
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> 2058  -17  0.7   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 30
> 2106  -12  0.7   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 30
> 2112  -9  0.9   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 30
> 
> 73
> 
> 
> 
>> Anderey,
>> thank's report and info !
>> Yesterday 21.30 i run 10 W erp, today i run only 1 W ERP and that is 
>> probobly the reason !
>> 
>> 73 de Gus SM6BHZ
>> 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Andrey rn3agc" <rn3agc@mail.ru>
>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 11:16 PM
>> Subject: LF: Re: SM6BHZ WSPR
>> 
>> 
>>> Hello Gus,
>>> Today bad propagation to Moscow. Yesterday it was much better.
>>> The most good your signal was yesterday at 21.32:
>>>
>>> 2132  1  -0.5   0.503931  SM6BHZ  JO57 40
>>>
>>> 73
>>> Andrey 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>
>




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James Moritz wrote:
> Dear Lawrence, John, LF group,
> 
> Thanks for monitoring the Wolf beacon last night.
> 
> The beacon is now (1846utc) running again in standard WOLF10 mode on 
> 503.500kHz - all being well, it will be going overnight. Any reports will be 
> very welcome.


Jim, LF

Thanks Lawrence for the tip re: samplerate calibration.

I've just started monitoring and find the following...


2009-09-09 20:55:49 >WOLF10  -r 7997.017 -f 1000 -t 1.0 -w 0.0000
t:  24 f: 0.276 a:-0.3 dp: 82.2 ci:14 cj:277 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t:  48 f: 0.280 a:-0.5 dp: 85.8 ci:15 cj:277 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t:  96 f: 0.285 a: 1.3 dp: 92.6 ci: 0 cj:276 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t: 192 f: 0.283 pm:762.8 jm:407 q:  8.1  8.3 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t: 288 f: 0.283 pm: 4746 jm:407 q: 12.1 12.2 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t: 384 f: 0.283 pm: 7531 jm:407 q: 14.8 15.3 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t: 480 f: 0.283 pm: 9261 jm:408 q: 15.5 15.8 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -

Now I suppose I should start reading around the subject to learn how to 
interpret the information!

Cheers all

John
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Jim - that was 2008z and the path was about equal time between fully dark=
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Dear All,

Had a go with the WOLF but no decodes though I can see what I guess is Jim
M's monster sig smack in the middle of the waterfall in a rather fetching
orange colour.  I need to have a read up of the manual tomorrow and do the
calibrations etc and also fix the ant to try to heat the ground less.
(thanks to all the various kind folks who have forwarded lots of very useful
info to help me here).

For now I am back on WSPR 502.4

With best regards
 
 
Jim G7NKS
 
 
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Roger Lapthorn wrote:
> Well, easy for some (I can see) but NOT for me. What am I doing wrong?
> 


Roger,

Unfortunately I don't think I can help, as I'm a total novice at WOLF, 
so can't really come up with any quick fixes!

All I did was set the centre frequency to match the USB tuning offset - 
tune low 1kHz to 502.5 and set centre frequency to 1000Hz.

I think pretty much everything else standard.

Looking at my version I see that under "Mode"... I have "Receive Only" 
ticked, "WOLF 10[symbols/sec] " ---> "Normal Speed" ticked.

That's all I've done initially and it worked. Lawrence in China 
suggested I try to calibrate my soundcard, so I followed his suggestion.

I know, as has been discussed before, that WSPR is often touchy about 
soundcard sampling rates and string signals.

Don't know if WOLF is the same.

But at least can adjust for this in the software with WOLF though.

Tune to 197kHz in USB mode. THe Radio 4 carrier should be at 1kHz. If 
you've chosen a 1kHz centre frequency, on the WOLF Config tab there's a 
button marked "Cal" in the receive options area. Press it. It will work 
out a correction factor for your soundcard. I think you're then asked to 
accept the value offerred... do this and then start again. See if this 
fixes things.

As Dave YMC rightly comments - this might be one to try and then forget, 
although it seems (of setup correctly) to be quite sensitive.

Cheers,

John
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R window or will be looking for other sigs as advised/asked.

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ot

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"Blog Blogger Bloggest Bloggy, Blogspot, Tweet Twit Twitter My face your=
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e (or valve)" you get the picture.

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Nice and fairly quiet on 137 and 500 at the moment so fingers crossed.

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&nbsp;<BR>
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&nbsp;<BR>
Nice and fairly quiet on 137 and 500 at the moment so fingers crossed.<BR>
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Hello Claude, LF!

Your signal was big last night - see the picture.

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Hello Claude, LF!<br><br>Your signal was big last night - see the picture.<br><br>Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS<br>                       <br /><hr />Předveďte svůj styl pomocí zobrazení obrázků v Messenger. Prohlédněte si je všechny. <a href='http://download.live.com/messenger' target='_new'>Klikni zde!</a></body>
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Dear LF

I was running 20% duty, I'll shift mine down to 10% or up to 25% to try and
"outlace" with Gus who I obviously can't compete with! 

Working on new vertical with top load next.

Roger - not copied you yet and I am closer than Jim M but I know my antenna
will be down on Rx vs his.

Last night was really noisy here and also not many stations on so gave Tx a
rest after 11pm.  



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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dave Sergeant
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On 15 Sep 2009 at 7:12, Dave G3WCB wrote:

> No sign of any other stations last night. I'll be able to monitor again
> on Wednesday evening.

G7NKS was also on, as you see a bit weaker than Gus but seemed to be 
sharing the same time slots.
(note this is WSJT7 output, which is all that will run on my sound 
card:
Time, Sync, dB, DT, DF, Drift, Call, Locator
where DF is the relative frequency to the centre, 503.9kHz (give or 
take a few Hz...)

184000  10  -8  2.9    32  1  G7NKS IO92 23         
184400  10  -3  2.4    32  0  SM6BHZ JO57 40        
184800   7  -9  2.9    40  1  G7NKS IO92 23         
185000   8  -3  2.4    34  0  SM6BHZ JO57 40        
185800  13  -1  2.4    24  0  SM6BHZ JO57 40        
185800   9 -11  2.7    33  0  G7NKS IO92 23         
190200   6  -5  2.4    24  1  SM6BHZ JO57 40        
191000  11   4  2.3    24  0  SM6BHZ JO57 40        
191000   5 -14  2.9    34  0  G7NKS IO92 23

73 Dave G3YMC
         
http://www.davesergeant.com




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Currently 503.880kHz

73s
Roger

2009/9/15 Marco IK1ODO <ik1odo@spin-it.com>

> Roger,
>
> do you confirm 503.830 kHz?
>
> Marco IK1ODO
>
>
>
> At 21.46 15/09/2009, you wrote:
>
>> My 500kHz WSPR beacon is now back on again and will run overnight tonight.
>>
>> All reports appreciated. I'd also appreciate some screenshots please.
>>
>> Tomorrow I will try to do a small improvement to the ground system that
>> might be worth a couple of dBs.
>>
>> 73s
>> Roger
>>
>
>
>
>


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Currently 503.880kHz<br><br>73s<br>Roger<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"=
>2009/9/15 Marco IK1ODO <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ik1odo@spi=
n-it.com">ik1odo@spin-it.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_=
quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt=
 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Roger,<br>
<br>
do you confirm 503.830 kHz?<br><font color=3D"#888888">
<br>
Marco IK1ODO</font><div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
<br>
<br>
At 21.46 15/09/2009, you wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204,=
 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
My 500kHz WSPR beacon is now back on again and will run overnight tonight.=
<br>
<br>
All reports appreciated. I&#39;d also appreciate some screenshots please.<=
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<br>
Tomorrow I will try to do a small improvement to the ground system that mi=
ght be worth a couple of dBs.<br>
<br>
73s<br>
Roger<br>
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Hi, Roger.

Nothing heard to date, but I'll be listening overnight. Only Jim so far.

1746 -11  0.6   0.503945 -1 G7NKS IO92 27
1758 -10  0.8   0.503943  0 G7NKS IO92 27
1810 -11  0.4   0.503942  0 G7NKS IO92 27
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1834 -13  0.6   0.503942  0 G7NKS IO92 27
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1850 -13  0.5   0.503956  0 G7NKS IO92 27
1858 -19  1.0   0.503960  0 G7NKS IO92 27
1906 -20  0.6   0.503965  0 G7NKS IO92 27

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
  -----Original Message-----
  From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Roger Lapthorn
  Sent: 18 September 2009 16:42
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
  Subject: LF: G3XBM's 500kHz QRPp WSPR beacon running again


  My 500kHz beacon has just been turned back on again. Any reports or
screenshots would be appreciated.  It would be lovely to have some reports
from a few new stations too and I'd just love to get >100kms with the
current QRP set-up.

  73s
  Roger
  --
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  http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/
  http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
  G3XBM    GQRP 1678      ISWL G11088

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<DIV><SPAN class=3D024301119-18092009><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000=
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 QRPp WSPR=20
  beacon running again<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>My 500kHz beacon has just=
 been turned=20
  back on again. Any reports or screenshots would be appreciated.&nbsp=
; It would=20
  be lovely to have some reports from a few new stations too and I'd=
 just love=20
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From: YO2IS
  Hello from KN05ps, was pleased to hear and see the
 QRSS3 signals from G3KEV on 502.5 KHz up to S3, using
 my HM setup, 500KHz/14 MHz conv uA1496, 41m sloping
 wire tunned with a 0.3mH vario and GW4ALG like TU, and
 ARGO on a 'historic' 475 MHz WIN98se machine...
  Have sent 'O' report on 7033 KHz and we succeded in 
 a nice X band QSO, received the following msgs:

  YO2IS G3KEV 5NN K  then  IS KEV QSL O O 73 TU SK

  The level of signals was enough for a CW QSO !, its
 my best 500m ODX, KN05ps -> IO94sh = 1911 Km... Will 
 QSLL direct next days...would be happy to get yours.
  Our experimental beacon YO2X will be activated
 randomly on 505.723 KHz, QRSS3 and CW id, 50W and
 the 41m wire...some day do reactivate also my 137.7...

   73 & DX, Szigy.



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>From tomorrow (Monday 2009/09/07) my beacon on 503.7kHz will be off for a
few days pending various odd jobs around here.   Hopefully it should be back
again next weekend.

As we approach the winter months, would it be worth modifying to add a WSPR
transmission as well?   I don't want to stop the 15 minute timed signal on
503.7 for auto logging, but it wouldn't be too difficult to add a WSPR
transmission between those, on a different frequency somewhere in the 503.8
to 504.0 range.

Andy
www.g4jnt.com

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<div>From tomorrow (Monday 2009/09/07) my beacon on 503.7kHz will be off=
 for a few days=A0pending various odd jobs around here.=A0=A0 Hopefully it=
 should be back again next weekend.</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>As we approach the winter months, would it be worth modifying to add=
 a WSPR transmission as well?=A0=A0 I don&#39;t want to stop the 15 minute=
 timed signal on 503.7=A0for auto logging, but it wouldn&#39;t be too diff=
icult to add a WSPR transmission between those, on a different frequency=
 somewhere in the 503.8 to 504.0 range.</div>

<div><br clear=3D"all">Andy<br><a href=3D"http://www.g4jnt.com">www.g4jnt.=
com</a><br><br>this email has been scanned for political correctness by th=
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Hi Jean-Pierre,
It, probably, was beacon UA4WPF.

73
Andrey


> Hello LF ,
> 
> My antenna was in directection of the USA , I raised of the traces on 
> 137777. 2 , I suppose that it is ACG in beaconning !
> 
> 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj
>




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Tnx, Henny, fer agn capture on 505.090kHz. Pwr 0.4W ERP.
73   Walter  DJ2LF / DI2AG

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Thanks Jim - good work on the antennae - I love them Cherry pickers ! as=
 for 504 - I dont know as I havent looked into it very deeply and it must=
 be a common issue but even on the smallest near efficient antennae we see=
 tram lines; as you say and in my case they could be a mix of local artifa=
cts - that wouldnt suprise me at all as I have 100 neighbors all within a=
 100m horiz and vertical distance -  but thankfully the antenna sits outsi=
de a virtual Faraday cage as most of the reinforcing of the building is ho=
lding and dumping  the QRM inside the "box" - if I dont ground the coaxs=
 before entry the QRM sits over S9 plus - with it S4/5.

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Im game for WOLF at any ones convienence and just cal'd the decoder using=
 the 30 over signal from 60/68.5/39kHz and moreover 10Mhz to tweek the ind=
uctor and stab Osc in the R75.

=20

Thanks for the signals - all very interesting. Long Haul - and Eu is defin=
ately that, werent so good last night in general and I noticed more attenu=
ation at LF/MF on the remote Alaskan receiver too.

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=20

LaurenceTanggu Tianjin China

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=20
> From: james.moritz@btopenworld.com
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 14:02:26 +0100
> Subject: LF: Re: WSPR/Questions
>=20
> Dear Laurence, Roman, LF Group,
>=20
> I shut the beacon down at 0446utc this morning. The frequency was 503.97=
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> as advertised. Thanks for the overnight reports, nice to see spots from=
=20
> W1TAG again and from Russia for the first time. I transmitted in about=
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> of the 2 minute periods between about 1940 and 2050utc, but saw nothing=
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> a signal in the BY3 grabber, although the frequency seemed mostly clear.=
=20
> Conditions were relatively noisy here with more QRN than the previous ni=
ght.
>=20
> The antenna is a top-loaded vertical with 3 wires in a sort of Y shape=
 in=20
> the horizontal plane. Where the wires meet, it is supported by a 10m=20
> fibreglass mast. To "jack up" the antenna, I have an old "cherry picker"=
 (or=20
> aerial access platform or whatever you wish to call it) which is slowly=
=20
> sinking into my lawn. The bottom of the mast is bolted to the cherry pic=
ker=20
> where the operator's basket used to be, so the whole mast can be raised=
 into=20
> the air. This allows a total maximum height of about 19m if I am feeling=
=20
> brave; last night the middle of the antenna span was raised to about 17m=
.=20
> Previous FS measurements have shown this gives about 3 - 4dB improvement=
 in=20
> ERP due to the increased height and radiation resistance, along with a=
=20
> slight reduction in loss resistance. The total length of wire in the ant=
enna=20
> stays the same, but gets further from the ground, so antenna capacitance=
=20
> actually reduces slightly. The things we do to try and get a better=20
> signal...
>=20
> Cross-band QSOs from M0BMU are unfortunately difficult at the moment due=
 to=20
> the high QRM levels on the lower HF bands here - I am hoping some work=
 on=20
> dedicated HF receiving antennas here will improve this soon.
>=20
> The 504kHz signal seems to be present in many widely-seperated QTHs - do=
n't=20
> know about W/VE though? It seems to be different at each location. Here=
 it=20
> is a rather weak carrier with no audible modulation, on the spectrogram=
 it=20
> can be seen to have a couple of stronger spectral lines and several weak=
er=20
> ones spread over a range of a few Hz. These seem to vary over time, poss=
ibly=20
> due to QSB. They can't all be RTE/Atlantic 252 harmonics - 504kHz is an=
=20
> integer multiple of 9kHz, so many opportunities for internal or external=
=20
> intermods due to broadcast stations. 504kHz is also a multiple of 8kHz,=
 as=20
> is 136kHz - it was suggested at one time that the weak carriers audible=
 in=20
> many places on 136.0kHz could be harmonics of the 8kHz clock rate used=
 in=20
> wired telecomms.
>=20
> I would be quite interested to try WOLF again - although it needs more=
=20
> careful coordination with frequencies than WSPR.
>=20
> Roman, there are some pdf files on the UK 500kHz group site about some=
 of my=20
> LF/MF gear - you are welcome to use those if you like.
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> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
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Thanks Jim - good work on the antennae&nbsp;- I love them Cherry pickers=
 ! as for 504 - I dont know as I havent looked into it very deeply and it=
 must be a common issue but even on the smallest&nbsp;near efficient anten=
nae we see tram lines; as you say and in my case&nbsp;they could be a mix=
 of local artifacts - that wouldnt suprise me at all as I have 100 neighbo=
rs all within a 100m horiz and&nbsp;vertical distance - &nbsp;but thankful=
ly&nbsp;the antenna sits&nbsp;outside a virtual Faraday cage as&nbsp;most=
 of the reinforcing of the building is&nbsp;holding&nbsp;and dumping&nbsp;=
 the&nbsp;QRM inside the "box" - if I dont ground the coaxs before entry=
 the QRM sits over S9 plus - with it S4/5.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Im game for WOLF at any ones convienence and just cal'd the decoder&nbsp;u=
sing the 30 over signal from 60/68.5/39kHz and moreover 10Mhz to tweek the=
 inductor and stab Osc in the R75.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Thanks for the signals - all very interesting. Long Haul - and Eu is defin=
ately that, werent so good last night in general and I noticed more attenu=
ation at LF/MF on the remote Alaskan receiver too.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
LaurenceTanggu Tianjin China<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
<BR>&nbsp;<BR>&gt; From: james.moritz@btopenworld.com<BR>&gt; To: rsgb_lf_=
group@blacksheep.org<BR>&gt; Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 14:02:26 +0100<BR>&gt;=
 Subject: LF: Re: WSPR/Questions<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Dear Laurence, Roman, LF=
 Group,<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; I shut the beacon down at 0446utc this morning.=
 The frequency was 503.975kHz <BR>&gt; as advertised. Thanks for the overn=
ight reports, nice to see spots from <BR>&gt; W1TAG again and from Russia=
 for the first time. I transmitted in about 75% <BR>&gt; of the 2 minute=
 periods between about 1940 and 2050utc, but saw nothing like <BR>&gt; a=
 signal in the BY3 grabber, although the frequency seemed mostly clear. <B=
R>&gt; Conditions were relatively noisy here with more QRN than the previo=
us night.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; The antenna is a top-loaded vertical with 3 wir=
es in a sort of Y shape in <BR>&gt; the horizontal plane. Where the wires=
 meet, it is supported by a 10m <BR>&gt; fibreglass mast. To "jack up" the=
 antenna, I have an old "cherry picker" (or <BR>&gt; aerial access platfor=
m or whatever you wish to call it) which is slowly <BR>&gt; sinking into=
 my lawn. The bottom of the mast is bolted to the cherry picker <BR>&gt;=
 where the operator's basket used to be, so the whole mast can be raised=
 into <BR>&gt; the air. This allows a total maximum height of about 19m if=
 I am feeling <BR>&gt; brave; last night the middle of the antenna span wa=
s raised to about 17m. <BR>&gt; Previous FS measurements have shown this=
 gives about 3 - 4dB improvement in <BR>&gt; ERP due to the increased heig=
ht and radiation resistance, along with a <BR>&gt; slight reduction in los=
s resistance. The total length of wire in the antenna <BR>&gt; stays the=
 same, but gets further from the ground, so antenna capacitance <BR>&gt;=
 actually reduces slightly. The things we do to try and get a better <BR>&=
gt; signal...<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Cross-band QSOs from M0BMU are unfortunatel=
y difficult at the moment due to <BR>&gt; the high QRM levels on the lower=
 HF bands here - I am hoping some work on <BR>&gt; dedicated HF receiving=
 antennas here will improve this soon.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; The 504kHz signal=
 seems to be present in many widely-seperated QTHs - don't <BR>&gt; know=
 about W/VE though? It seems to be different at each location. Here it <BR=
>&gt; is a rather weak carrier with no audible modulation, on the spectrog=
ram it <BR>&gt; can be seen to have a couple of stronger spectral lines an=
d several weaker <BR>&gt; ones spread over a range of a few Hz. These seem=
 to vary over time, possibly <BR>&gt; due to QSB. They can't all be RTE/At=
lantic 252 harmonics - 504kHz is an <BR>&gt; integer multiple of 9kHz, so=
 many opportunities for internal or external <BR>&gt; intermods due to bro=
adcast stations. 504kHz is also a multiple of 8kHz, as <BR>&gt; is 136kHz=
 - it was suggested at one time that the weak carriers audible in <BR>&gt;=
 many places on 136.0kHz could be harmonics of the 8kHz clock rate used in=
 <BR>&gt; wired telecomms.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; I would be quite interested to=
 try WOLF again - although it needs more <BR>&gt; careful coordination wit=
h frequencies than WSPR.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Roman, there are some pdf files=
 on the UK 500kHz group site about some of my <BR>&gt; LF/MF gear - you ar=
e welcome to use those if you like.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Cheers, Jim Moritz<BR=
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Hi Warren,LF,
Capture XGJ
Henny pa3cpm
73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
XGJ 26-09.jpg

Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld.

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Warren,LF,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Capture XGJ</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Henny pa3cpm</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>73s</FONT></DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het volgende 
bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:<BR>XGJ 26-09.jpg<BR><BR>Opmerking: 
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welcome back Scott - Im stuck in Beijing your old watering hole  this week=
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> Still tweaking but the VE7TIL 2200m grabber is back.
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> http://www3.telus.net/sthed/argo/
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> 73 Scott
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welcome back Scott - Im stuck in Beijing your old watering hole &nbsp;this=
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Captured last night on 137,778 with many QRN.
 
F4DTL  Nicolas JN18FP

RX : Icom IC7400
Ant: Wellbrook LFL 1010
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WD2XES will be running in WSPR mode tonight starting around 2330Z. Set 
your receiver for 136.1 kHz, USB. If everything is stable, I'll let it 
run until 0500Z.

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Hello LF'ers,
I have spent the Weekend in a countryside, locator KO86NP.
DI2AM and SK6RUD it was perfectly audible on Degen1103, ~23z RST 559!
No counterbalances and external aerials were used, reception was on own telescopic aerial of the receiver!
The receiver works in "the expanded" mode.

73 Andrey


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At 10:59 AM 9/11/2009, Jay wrote:
>WE2XGR/2 will transmit in WOLF mode tonight from 2230 - 0330Z on 
>508.5 kHz. Local sunset is 2300Z. Reports are always appreciated.

Here is a spectral plot showing both signals together.  Actually, 200 
Hz was overkill separation as you can see...

http://www.nrtco.net/~ve2iq/jay_john.gif

The red marker just above the arrow cursor signifies 800 Hz.  Jay 
(with the big signal) is 100 Hz lower at about 700 Hz,
John is 100 Hz higher at about 900 Hz.  There is a curious spike at 1 
Khz - not sure what it is.  At the time the S-meter
on the TS850 had *no* dots showing on the S-meter so I'd hardly think 
it could be some non-linearity in the radio.  Could
be something in the sound card I guess.

If anyone wants to look at the raw data, I cut out the first part of 
the recording, converted it from 16-bit to 8-bit format.
It still works OK.  The actual sampling rate was 8200.389.  Jay's 
audio freq was 699.988 Hz, John's audio was 899.988 Hz.

To decode Jay, use: WOLF -r 8200.389 -f 699.988 -t 0.2
To decode John use: WOLF -r 8200.389 -f 899.988 -t 0.2

The file is still about 5 Mb (they don't zip too well) - you can 
download it from here:

http://www.nrtco.net/~ve2iq/wolfr.wav

73,
Bill VE2IQ



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hi Andrey LF group
thank you very much for Andrey control reception 
your grabber qro it is very delightful to real-time monitoring 
and the propagation is very well
good week good evening everyone 
Claude F8boj JN16WA

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> Hi Claude, LF,
> capture last night
> 
> 73 Andrey



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Dear Roger, LF Group,

The M0BMU WSPR beacon shut down at 0640utc - thanks for all the overnight 
reports.

G3XBM started decoding here at 0502, and is being quite consistently 
received now the QRN has died down, although not very strong of course...


Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU





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Hi John, LF,
The one I use is ExpressPCB (for boards) & ExpressSCH (for schematics) both
free, they may be suitable.

Go to - http://www.expresspcb.com/

<http://www.expresspcb.com/>73

Gary - G4WGT.

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<span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-family: arial, sans-serif;=
 font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse; ">Hi John, LF,<div><br></div>=
<div>The one I use is ExpressPCB (for boards) &amp; ExpressSCH (for schema=
tics) both free, they may be suitable.=A0</div>
<div><br></div><div>Go to -=A0<a href=3D"http://www.expresspcb.com/" targe=
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Hello Gus, Gary, LF!
I am back from my vacation and QRV on 600m:

1850  -9  0.8   1.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 33
1858 -23  1.2   1.503911  0 G4WGT IO83 27

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Hello LF!

0044 -31  1.4   1.503960  0 WD2XSH FN42 37
0054 -29  1.5   1.503960  0 WD2XSH FN42 37

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Jim,

I did post a email on this a short while ago, Gus , I thin was the only one 
to  respond and  subsequently lowered his operating  frequency to  fall 
inside the , set 502.4 usb dial  frequency in use in the  UK.

As the  European allocation looks to  be  wider than the  Uk, are we 
expecting the  UK 3 Khz  allocation to  remain as is, if  and when the  band 
is formalised ?, in which case loosing 200 hz may not be the  most sensible 
option ...

As by definition , if you  can transmit wspr  you  must be  able to  move 
transmit  frequency (noting Andy's new beacon) establishing an over lapping 
100 hz section may be a reasonable  compromise ie move the  dial frequency 
to say  502.5  or  499.5 , leaving 100 hz in band for uk access

Graham

G0NBD.







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>
> Dear LF Group,
>
> I still haven't replied to Fritz Raab, W1FR, regarding the WD2XSH US band
> plan which he is apparently coordinating - you may remember I posted the 
> US
> proposals, which he sent me, a couple of weeks ago, but have not received
> any comments from other UK/Eu stations. I think I should reply with
> something, so now is your chance... The proposal relates to the US
> allocation extending to 495 - 515kHz, and how that would fit in with 
> current
> UK and Eu beacon operations. The content of the e-mail is below. The issue
> is that they would like to make a 501.0 - 501.2kHz WSPR sub-band, to fit 
> in
> with the various other proposals. Various other types of beacon modes are
> allocated frequencies outside the UK/EI/ON 501 - 504kHz range, while 
> 501.2 -
> 504kHz is allocated to "general comms". Retaining frequencies just below
> 504kHz would divide their "general comms" band in two
>
> I don't think there is anything preventing us from doing this, it is just
> the inconvenience of turning the current band "upside-down". Let me know
> what you think!
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
>>>>From W1FR:
>
> Greetings:
>
>     Thanks for the comments on the band plan, passed
> along to me by W1XP.
>
>     About a month ago, a modification to the WD2XSH
> license was approved that adds stations and gives us
> access to 495 - 510 kHz.  Perhaps half of the 42 stations
> will eventually get on the air.  Because of NDBs, some
> stations are limited to parts of this band and we will
> have two calling frequencies and two beacon bands.
>
>     A draft of our new band plan follows.  Of particular
> interest is WSPR.  As I see it, our options are:
>
> (a)  501.0-501.2:  Conveniently on one side of our comms
>     band.  Will not overload WSPR receivers near 504 kHz.
>     Apparently in EU CW-beacon band.
>
> (b)  503.8-504.0:  Apparently same as what you guys are
>     using.  Cuts our comms band in the middle.  Nearby
>     stations may overload US receivers trying to hear EUs.
>
> (c)  503.9-504.1:  Same problems as above with cutting
>     comms band in two and overloading.  Conveniently
>     straddles both G/ON/EI and Canadian bands.
>
>     Any further thoughts you may have will be
> appreciated.
>
>
> 73, Fritz, W1FR
>
> Frederick H. (Fritz) Raab, Ph.D.
> GREEN MOUNTAIN RADIO RESEARCH COMPANY
> 77 Vermont Avenue, Fort Ethan Allen
> Colchester, Vermont 05446  USA
> Tel./Fax.:  +1 (802) 655-9670  Home:  +1 (802) 862-0997
> E-mail:  f.raab@ieee.org
>
> BASIC BAND PLAN for WD2XSH
>
> f, kHz          USE
>
> 495.0 - 495.1   QRSS, 1-Hz spacing, 40 stations
> 495.1 - 495.6   CW/PSK beacons midwest, 100-Hz spacing, 10 stations
> 495.6 - 499.0   Comms
> 497.5           Calling frequency
> 499.0 - 501.0   Reserved for heritage stations and special events
> 501.0 - 501.2   WSPR
> 501.2 - 505.0   Comms
> 505.0 - 505.2   DX window
> 505.2 - 508.5   Comms
> 507.5           Calling frequency
> 508.5 - 510.0   CW/PSK beacons east, south, west, Pacific, 50-Hz spacing, 
> 30
> stations
> 510.0 - 511.0   WE2XGR beacons
> 511.0 - 515.0   WE2XGR SSB and wideband modes
>
>
> OTHER IN-BAND SIGNALS
>
> 503.976         NEED LSB
> 505.0           NEED carrier
> 506.024         NEED USB
>
> 508.976         OF/FA LSB
> 510.0           OF/FA carrier
> 511.024         OF/FA USB
>
>
>



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Last night I was sharing the output from the baby bottle probe between the=
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 Argo on a second computer. Well the impedance matching may be off but it=
 works ok, but qrn was pretty bad but looks like some qrss on 137.7785 at=
 my dawn - I havent cal'd the sdr on this computer but will do that in a=
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On MF things were good and we got Gus a whole 30 mins earlier tonight.

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&nbsp;<BR>
Last night I was sharing the output from the baby bottle probe between the=
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 works ok, but qrn was pretty bad but looks like some qrss on 137.7785 at=
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 while so this freq maybe off.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
On MF things were good and we got Gus a whole 30 mins earlier tonight.<BR>
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Chris, Jim, all,

Remember that despite the fancy signal coding, the end result with WOLF is a simple BPSK signal sent at 10 bits/second, i.e., the phase is flipped 0/180 degrees as fast as 10 times a second. In that sense, it's the same modulation scheme as the familiar PSK31, but at a slower rate and with less shaped keying. PSK31 has a highly shaped amplitude envelope - slow rise and fall times, easily noted on an oscilloscope connected to your transmitter output. There's a signal to noise tradeoff in doing that, however, as the transmitter is at full power for only a portion of each bit. But the reduced keying clicks are important in a high-power narrow environment, such as the PSK31 section of 20 meters.

WOLF keying has a faster rise and fall time, giving some s/n improvement, but creating the sidebands you see in the waterfall display with a strong signal. Remember that each of those sidebands is flipping in phase right in step with the main carrier, and you can center one on the waterfall and get a decode assuming the signal is strong enough. 

WOLF is unnecessarily complex for communication where the signal is audible, and is of real value only for very weak signals. At 137 kHz, it can be copied under conditions that support only QRSS30 or 60 rates, and it can offer much better data throughput. But for weak signals that require build-up of copy over many minutes, the accuracy of the audio tone and the sound card sampling rate can become issues. With strong signals, the frames of data can slew all over the place, and you will still get decodes.

I have done a number of WOLF QSO's, and they are not difficult. You only need to work out the concept of time slots in advance, and what sort of response will be given in case of good/no copy. There are articles on my web site describing some of these QSO's. The most amazing one was a 1000 km 2-way with 1 watt TRANSMITTER output in the early afternoon. Think about that one...

My results on copying Jim last night were the worst of the week, and I don't know why! Part of the problem was that I was out of the house for most of the evening, and am not sure about noise levels, which may have been higher due to an approaching coastal storm. 

John, W1TAG


---- Chris <c.ashby435@btinternet.com> wrote: 
> Hi All,
> I don't understand some of these comments about critical set up, frequency etc. I just downloaded the program, connected to the RX and it worked. Could it be because Jim is extremely strong here? I can tune +/- 200Hz off and it still decodes. I haven't worked out if/how it 'locks' to the signal. Maybe it would not be possible to receive a nearby weaker signal??
> I find some of the documentation a bit daunting, has anybody written a simple explanation of how to set the system up properly?
> Not sure how useful it would be in reality for a QSO, inclined to think CW would be the best bet. Seems very limited as is.
> Vy 73, Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent, JO01MI.



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Jim, Andy, LF Group,
I am not in the position to put in anything re transmitting on 500kHz=
 myself
but I would like to stronly support the position of Jim M0MBU.=20
WSPR is a vy interesting mode and its advantages of having an "automat=
ic"
background in logging and distributing the reception results is really
fascinating.=20
And as John, F5VLF had put it just recently and as he urged us (the
amateurs) to keep on experimenting: "...To cite just two examples of=
 this
ingenuity (the ham's): transmitting loops seem to have been almost unk=
nown
to the old-time professionals, and some of the low data rate systems=
 we have
been experimenting with would have been impracticable then. ...".=20
We have different modes now and different means to detect weak signals=
 and
WSPR is definitely one mode in this group with new advantages!
We are neither ships (exception DI2AM) nor do we have powerful transmi=
tters
with huge antennas beside the sea (maybe you guys in G-land have it an=
d we
just don't know it, hi!), so we still have a lot to find out.
I am very greatful for all amateurs who make great personal efforts to
provide beacons for the rest of us!
73
de
Klaus
DJ6LB
~~~ No trees were killed in the sending of this message, ~~~
~~~ but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced ~~~=
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I don't "do" contests but do use them to make new contacts and when I have
given 5-5 or 5-7 they have either queried it or ignored me and moved on, and
I have lost count of the number of times I have had to repeat suffix/prefix
or serial number and then been given 5-9...hmmmm

Lowfering is much more fun!! (if a little frustrating at times!).  WSPR was
easy to get going but WOLF is looking like a "douleur dans la derriere".

I am guessing that the big bright orange band in the middle of my green
waterfall last night was Dr. Moritz and his Grimeton-esque transmitter but I
got no decodes.  I did try the 197KHz calibration trick but to no effect.  I
need to RTFM as I am still clueless as to what all the numbers mean and I
guess my lack of decodes has more to do with operator error than the
proximity of Jim's TX (though I am sure I can see a glow of Cherenkov
radiation in his direction in the night sky).

I haven't heard Chris XIZ recently so haven't been able to practice my CW?

Anyone going to Loughborough?  

Hopefully if I get my ant sorted I'll be on this Sunday and next week a
little less QRPp (or is that a double double negative?)



With best regards
 
 
Jim
 
 
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of John RABSON
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On 11/09/2009 at 07:05 John P-G wrote:

>"your report is 59 please repeat your name and QTH"

You think you are joking!  A couple of years ago a G6+2 came back to me with
just that.  I think we should get rid of RS(T) in contests and make the
RoPoCo contest international.  

John F5VLF





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Hi Roger

 

That's how I started with femtowatts!!  I'll be looking for you on WSPR

 

With best regards

 

 

Jim

 

 

Dr. James Cowburn

 

  _____  

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Good folks,

I've now got a most basic WSPR TX system on-air transverting my FT817 TX
from 28MHz down to 500kHz. It is only putting out 700mW from the TX, so only
microwatts being radiated from the poor antenna at the moment. Although I
cannot yet transceive on 500kHz, when I get back from holiday in a few weeks
I will set to work getting more power, full transceive and a moderately
credible antenna.

However, nothing ventured nothing gained, I will put this WSPR TX on the air
this evening starting shortly in case anyone can hear me.  Any WSPR spot
reports would fill me with total amazement and delight.

73s
Roger
G3XBM

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femtowatts!! &nbsp;I&#8217;ll be looking for you on WSPR<o:p></o:p></s=
pan></font></p>

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t-family:Tahoma'>
owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksh=
eep.org] <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>R=
oger Lapthorn<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 13 September 2009=
 16:51<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> rsgb_lf_group@black=
sheep.org<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> LF: G3XBM TXin=
g on 500kHz
WSPR (after a fashion) tonight</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'>Good folks,<br>
<br>
I've now got a most basic <st1:place w:st=3D"on"><st1:City w:st=3D"on"=
>WSPR</st1:City>
 <st1:State w:st=3D"on">TX</st1:State></st1:place> system on-air trans=
verting my
FT817 TX from 28MHz down to 500kHz. It is only putting out 700mW from=
 the TX,
so only microwatts being radiated from the poor antenna at the moment.=
 Although
I cannot yet transceive on 500kHz, when I get back from holiday in a=
 few weeks
I will set to work getting more power, full transceive and a moderatel=
y
credible antenna.<br>
<br>
However, nothing ventured nothing gained, <u>I will put this WSPR TX=
 on the air
this evening</u> starting shortly in case <i><span style=3D'font-style=
:italic'>anyone</span></i>
can hear me.&nbsp; Any WSPR spot reports would fill me with total amaz=
ement and
delight.<br>
<br>
73s<br>
Roger<br>
G3XBM<br clear=3Dall>
<br>
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<a href=3D"http://www.g3xbm.co.uk">http://www.g3xbm.co.uk</a><br>
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OK Jay no problem, i would be in stand by on 508.5 kHz at 2230Z
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F4DTL  Nicolas JN18FP
RX : Icom IC7400
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Your QRSS3 signal is very good, just 25dB over the noise (137.700kHz).

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Jim,

Thanks very much for the report! Nice to know that the path works both ways.

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Hi!

At 21:00:00Z a 559 signal started.

As far as I can say, 
using a free running & open air VFO
and a low-cost-counter, 
qrg seems to be 503.98kHz.

Gus, is it You? :)

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Good morning Jim, Gus, LF!
Sunrise come to Moscow, prop is finished at once.
Full WSPR log here:
090906 2055   9 -23  1.3   0.505050  SM6BHZ JO57 30          0     1 
0
090906 2101   9 -22  1.2   0.505050  SM6BHZ JO57 30          0     1 
0
090906 2111   2 -28  1.3   0.505075  M0BMU IO91 37           0 13090 
-33
090906 2115   8 -23  1.4   0.505051  SM6BHZ JO57 30          0     1 
0
090906 2115   4 -27  1.5   0.505075  M0BMU IO91 37           0   714 
0
090906 2123   5 -25  4.6   0.503975  M0BMU IO91 37           0     1 
0
090906 2127   5 -24  1.3   0.503951  SM6BHZ JO57 30          0     1 
0
090906 2137   3 -30  1.4   0.503950  SM6BHZ JO57 30          0 16130 
-6
090906 2137   5 -27  1.3   0.503975  M0BMU IO91 37           0     1 
0
090906 2149   3 -29  1.4   0.503951  SM6BHZ JO57 30          0   217 
0
090906 2157   6 -24  1.6   0.503951  SM6BHZ JO57 30          0     1 
0
090906 2157   4 -27  1.5   0.503975  M0BMU IO91 37           0     1 
0
090906 2203  12 -19  1.2   0.503951  SM6BHZ JO57 30          0     1 
0
090906 2205   3 -26  1.3   0.503975  M0BMU IO91 37           0    57 
0
090906 2211  15 -16  1.5   0.503951  SM6BHZ JO57 30          0     1 
0
090906 2219   7 -25  1.6   0.503950  SM6BHZ JO57 30          0     1 
0
090906 2223  11 -21  1.5   0.503950  SM6BHZ JO57 30          0     1 
0
090906 2231   4 -27  1.6   0.503950  SM6BHZ JO57 30          0     4 
0
090906 2237   7 -25  1.6   0.503951  SM6BHZ JO57 30          0     1 
0
090906 2241   3 -26  1.4   0.503975  M0BMU IO91 37           0     2 
0
090906 2245   4 -27  1.7   0.503951  SM6BHZ JO57 30          0  1081 
0
090906 2253   5 -25  1.9   0.503950  SM6BHZ JO57 30          0     1 
0
090906 2313   8 -24  2.1   0.503951  SM6BHZ JO57 30          0     1 
0
090906 2315   3 -27  1.4   0.503975  M0BMU IO91 37           0 11970 
0
090906 2317   8 -23  1.8   0.503951  SM6BHZ JO57 30          0     1 
0
090906 2323  10 -22  2.1   0.503951  SM6BHZ JO57 30          0     1 
0
090906 2327   3 -28  2.0   0.503951  SM6BHZ JO57 30          0    25 
0
090906 2329   4 -27  1.5   0.503975  M0BMU IO91 37           0     2 
0
090906 2335   3 -28  2.1   0.503975  M0BMU IO91 37           0  9903 
-4
090906 2339   5 -27  2.1   0.503950  SM6BHZ JO57 30          0   170 
0
090906 2339   9 -23  1.7   0.503975  M0BMU IO91 37           0     1 
0
090906 2343   8 -23  1.6   0.503975  M0BMU IO91 37           0     1 
0
090906 2353   6 -24  0.9   0.503951  SM6BHZ JO57 30          0     1 
0
090906 2353   5 -26  0.4   0.503975  M0BMU IO91 37           0     1 
0
090906 2357   2 -29  1.9   0.503975  M0BMU IO91 37           0  1007 
0
090907 0005   7 -25  1.6   0.503975  M0BMU IO91 37           0     1 
0
090907 0011  11 -19  1.6   0.503975  M0BMU IO91 37           0     1 
0
090907 0015  11 -20  1.8   0.503975  M0BMU IO91 37           0     1 
0
090907 0021   6 -25  1.7   0.503975  M0BMU IO91 37           0     1 
0
090907 0023  13 -18  2.1   0.503951  SM6BHZ JO57 30          0     1 
0
090907 0029   6 -25  1.8   0.503975  M0BMU IO91 37           0     1 
0
090907 0031  13 -19  2.2   0.503951  SM6BHZ JO57 30          0     1 
0
090907 0035  14 -17  2.1   0.503951  SM6BHZ JO57 30          0     1 
0
090907 0039   6 -25  1.6   0.503975  M0BMU IO91 37           0     1 
0
090907 0041   9 -23  1.8   0.503951  SM6BHZ JO57 30          0     1 
0
090907 0043   2 -29  1.8   0.503975  M0BMU IO91 37           0 19621 
2
090907 0049  12 -20  2.4   0.503950  SM6BHZ JO57 30          0     1 
0
090907 0051   4 -27  1.8   0.503975  M0BMU IO91 37           0     1 
0
090907 0057   7 -25  2.4   0.503950  SM6BHZ JO57 30          0     1 
0
090907 0057   3 -28  1.8   0.503975  M0BMU IO91 37           0  4548 
0
090907 0105   9 -21  2.3   0.503951  SM6BHZ JO57 30          0     1 
0
090907 0109   6 -25  2.2   0.503951  SM6BHZ JO57 30          0     1 
0
090907 0109   4 -29  1.8   0.503975  M0BMU IO91 37           0 11339 
-10
090907 0115   2 -28  2.3   0.503951  SM6BHZ JO57 30          0 16029 
20
090907 0117   7 -25  2.1   0.503975  M0BMU IO91 37           0     1 
0
090907 0123  10 -21  2.5   0.503951  SM6BHZ JO57 30          0     1 
0
090907 0127   4 -26  2.6   0.503950  SM6BHZ JO57 30          0     7 
0
090907 0135   5 -26  2.7   0.503950  SM6BHZ JO57 30          0     1 
0
090907 0141  12 -20  2.7   0.503951  SM6BHZ JO57 30          0     1 
0
090907 0147  11 -21  2.9   0.503951  SM6BHZ JO57 30          0     1 
0
090907 0151   5 -26  2.1   0.503975  M0BMU IO91 37           0     1 
0
090907 0155   8 -22  2.6   0.503951  SM6BHZ JO57 30          0     1 
0
090907 0155   5 -26  1.9   0.503975  M0BMU IO91 37           0     3 
0
090907 0159  11 -20  2.7   0.503951  SM6BHZ JO57 30          0     1 
0
090907 0201   6 -25  2.0   0.503975  M0BMU IO91 37           0     1 
0
090907 0203  11 -19  2.7   0.503951  SM6BHZ JO57 30          0     1 
0
090907 0207  11 -21  2.8   0.503950  SM6BHZ JO57 30          0     1 
0
090907 0209   4 -27  2.3   0.503975  M0BMU IO91 37           0     4 
0
090907 0211   9 -23  2.9   0.503950  SM6BHZ JO57 30          0     1 
0
090907 0217  13 -19  2.8   0.503951  SM6BHZ JO57 30          0     1 
0
090907 0223   3 -27  3.0   0.503951  SM6BHZ JO57 30          0     4 
0
090907 0231   3 -28  2.8   0.503951  SM6BHZ JO57 30          0   103 
0


* James Moritz <james.moritz@btopenworld.com> [Sun, 6 Sep 2009 21:05:12 
+0100]:
> Dear LF Group,
>
> The M0BMU WSPR beacon is running again - I have jacked up the antenna 
to
> increase the ERP a bit. G4WGT and G7NKS are also active - any reports
> would
> be very welcome.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
>




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Roger Lapthorn wrote:
> Thanks for this John. I am not one to give up easily, HI, so will keep
> trying until it's sorted.
> 

That's good! Once it's sorted we need some real QRPp signals or real DX 
to try it with.


> 
> Incidentally, WSPR I found exceedingly easy on this PC - perhaps I was
> lucky.

That probably bodes well, in respect of soundcard sampling rate at least

Cheers,

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Hi Willhem,

thank's report and info !

73 de Gus SM6BHZ

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> 1718 -20  0.6   0.503942  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 1720 -21  0.6   0.503942  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 1722 -21  0.8   0.503942  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 1724 -22  0.7   0.503942  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 1726 -21  0.8   0.503942  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 1728 -19  0.9   0.503942  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 1730 -19  0.7   0.503942  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 73s pa3ego jo22mb
> 
>




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Gary,

Leaving the  beacon plotter  running is quite  useful as its giving a=
 plot of the background noise over time=20

G ,,=20


http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html

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Hello John,

thank's report and info.
i run abt 10 dB more power this evening in WSPR until midnight.

73 de Gus SM6BHZ
www.sm6bhz.com


----- Original Message ----- 
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> Had 12 lines of SM6BHZ copy last night between 0152 and 0420 from my 
> home QTH in Massachusetts. No sign of other calls. The spots have been 
> loaded to the MEPT database.
> 
> John, W1TAG (FN42ch)
>




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goodnight and edgard group lf=20
This morning the active stations on 137 kHz.=20
Mobmu .. OO .. Jim=20
HB9asb .. OO .. ..... Toni I hope one qso=20
F6cwa ... OO .. Hubert=20
F6bwo ... OO .. Jeff=20
F4dtl Nicolas ... OO ..=20
DF2hre .. MMM ... edgard thank you for the qso=20
IK1hss .. O. .... Marco thank you for the qso=20
SO5as ... MMM ... I hope one qso=20
8 active stations received here=20
congratulations for the 137 khz activity
good evening=20
F8boj Claude JN16WA ...
  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  dr Claude, LF group

  any station in 3sec-mode on the screen this morning:

  F8BOJ "O", tu for the QSO! dr Claude.
  HB9ASB "M", i hope for a QSO soon!
  SO5AS "M", tu for QSO again Steve!
  F6BWO "O"
  M0BMU "O"
  F4DTL "T"

  GL 73 Edgar
  DL2HRE jo51tq=20

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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>dr Claude, LF group</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>any station in 3sec-mode&nbsp;on th=
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>F8BOJ&nbsp;"O", tu for the QSO! dr=
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>HB9ASB "M", i hope for a QSO soon!<=
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>F4DTL "T"</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>GL 73 Edgar</FONT></DIV>
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Hello Lubos and LF,

thanks report and info!

73 de Gus SM6BHZ

www.sm6bhz.com
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Lubos OK2BVG=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 9:09 PM
  Subject: LF: WSPR_BHZ


  Hello Gus, LF!

  1834 -14  0.4   1.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
  1838  -6  0.6   1.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
  1846  -2  0.3   1.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
  1852  -9  0.5   1.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
  1858  -5  0.5   1.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
  1906  -6  0.7   1.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40

  Lubos, OK2BVG


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<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4 face=3DArial>Hello Lubos and=20
LF,</FONT></EM></STRONG></DIV>
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<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4 face=3DArial>thanks report and=20
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<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4 face=3DArial>73 de Gus=20
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I was getting 579 from BOSTON/USA from NC1K on 137 khz over the years on CW 
which I thought was good using simple equipment like a manual morse key, 
home built mosfet class D TX/PA and an inv L antenna, also regular QSO'S 
with Russian stations. I am able to do the same on 500 KCS. I am surprised 
you have difficulty with my signal, I expect the problem is your end.
NC1K was a professional CW operator (Radio Officer) unfortunately now silent 
key.
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John RABSON" <john.rabson@numeo.fr>
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On 01/09/2009 at 20:17 mal hamilton wrote:

>Roger I am stating the facts, someone else mentioned seeing the signals
>on the waterfall but they were not decoding. I could easlily have made a
>qso on cw given the strength of signals whereas WSPR was not decoding, so
>the exercise is pointless.

That was me.  I wasn't decoding because I don't yet have a decoder.  Had I 
had one, and given the snr I observed, I would have expected 100% copy.  On 
the few occasions I have heard Mal, his snr has not been anything like as 
good as WSPR.

John F5VLF





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Hello James,

very good copy here with K9AY
and Perseus SDR.

      2009-09-16 20:28   M0BMU   0.503840   +14   0   IO91vr   2   DL4RAJ   JN68kj   1003 
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Dear Jim, LF group

Copied Your signal this evening:


t: 96 f: 0.004 a:-1.2 dp: 77.5 ci: 5 cj:113 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -

t: 192 f: 0.000 pm:37.87 jm:734 q: -3.7 -4.4 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -

t: 288 f: 0.000 pm:83.22 jm:734 q: -0.5 -0.9 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -

t: 384 f: 0.000 pm:133.7 jm:734 q: 2.4 2.4 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -

t: 480 f: 0.000 pm:156.2 jm:734 q: 3.2 3.3 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -

t: 576 f: 0.000 pm:157.9 jm:734 q: 3.5 3.2 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -

t: 672 f: 0.000 pm:159.6 jm:734 q: 3.5 3.5 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -

t: 768 f: 0.000 pm:159.8 jm:734 q: 3.4 3.8 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -

t: 864 f: 0.000 pm:162.2 jm:734 q: 3.4 3.7 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -

t: 960 f: 0.000 pm:167.5 jm:734 q: 3.4 3.9 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -

t:1056 f: 0.000 pm:169.4 jm:734 q: 3.6 3.7 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -

t:1152 f: 0.000 pm:170.7 jm:734 q: 3.7 3.5 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -

t:1248 f:-0.020 pm:199.4 jm:734 q: 4.7 3.8 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -

t:1344 f:-0.020 pm:223.6 jm:734 q: 5.2 4.5 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -

t:1440 f:-0.020 pm:226.3 jm:734 q: 5.6 5.0 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -

t:1536 f:-0.020 pm:230.5 jm:734 q: 6.2 5.7 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -

--
Vy 73!
Marcin SQ2BXI

QTH: Gdansk, JO94GJ





----- Original Message ----- 
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> Dear Lawrence, John, LF group,
>
> Thanks for monitoring the Wolf beacon last night.
>
> The beacon is now (1846utc) running again in standard WOLF10 mode on
> 503.500kHz - all being well, it will be going overnight. Any reports will
be
> very welcome.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Laurence BY3A-KL1X China" <hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 3:34 PM
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>
>
>
> Ill leave the receiver on wspr on 502.4, Wolf10 on 503.5 and upload the
wspr
> window to http://kl1x.com/dx00000.jpg - if the processor can take it :-)
>
>
>



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Hi Lubos,

thanks report and info !

73 de Gus SM6BHZ
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  Hello Gus, Gary, LF!
  I am back from my vacation and QRV on 600m:

  1850  -9  0.8   1.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 33
  1858 -23  1.2   1.503911  0 G4WGT IO83 27

  Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS



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Hi Dave

Clock synchronization is key to WSPR, anything much more than 1 second out
between you and the other station will result in no decodes (been there done
that!)despite bold traces on the waterfall.  Also the WSPR program only
covers some 200Hz so unless the frequency is within that block it won't pick
it up.  

I use a little routine that continually links my pc clock to a time server
and updates every 30 mins as my pc clock drifts like mad esp when the cpu is
busy.  I gather you may already be doing this so I'm probably teaching
granny to suck eggs!

HTH


With best regards
 
 
Jim
 
 
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dave Sergeant
Sent: 05 September 2009 09:44
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Subject: LF: Re: WSPR beacon

On 4 Sep 2009 at 21:48, James Moritz wrote:

> Dear LF Group,
> 
> The M0BMU WSPR beacon is running again tonight 0n 503.975kHz (502.4k
> "dial frequency"). Any reports are very welcome. Also a very strong
> signal from SM6BHZ tonight.
> 
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU 
> 
> 

Well prompted by all the mails on here I have just installed the WSPR 
software and had a listen to your signals this morning.

I noticed a couple of things which might explain why I was not getting 
any decodes:

1. On switch on of my K2 and Datong UC1 which I use for 500kHz receive 
there is a noticeable drift, initially as high as 10Hz in the 2 minute 
sampling period but eventually dropping to within 1Hz. I could not find 
a spec as to how stable the receiver needs to be for WSPR. I believe 
most of this drift is the 116MHz downconverter crystal in the UC1, 
which is a big limitation to using it as a serious 500kHz receiver.
2. Although I synchronised my computer clock to the time standards, and 
it seems just a fraction of a second different from my 60kHz clock, 
your transmissions seemed to be starting a second or two early, before 
my WSPR started receiving, and finishing at around the 1.52 minutes 
point. Is your clock out, or is this how it is supposed to work?
3. You are of course s9+ at this range, and show as bright red on 
WSPR's spectrogram. Hardly 'weak signal'. Does the software cope with 
strong signals or does it overload?

The only decode I got was for 'C1N/NU0RWS' in one of your non-transmit 
periods. With things like that coming out of white noise it doesn't 
give me much confidence in some of the other things the WSPR folks are 
bragging about....

It does though work OK on 30m and I have decoded a few Eu stations so I 
would have thought I would have been able to copy Jim.

I guess this will be another few days little play before I go back to 
more useful things...

73 Dave G3YMC


I have received a few Eu stations on 30m
http://www.davesergeant.com




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Yes, looking forward to a CW QSO Mal when I've got the TX together and a
half decent antenna. On the digital stuff we can agree to disagree.

All the best

Roger
G3XBM



2009/9/1 mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>

>  Roger I am stating the facts, someone else mentioned seeing the signals
> on the waterfall but they were not decoding. I could easlily have made a qso
> on cw given the strength of signals whereas WSPR was not decoding, so the
> exercise is pointless.
> Get active on LF/MF transmitting and try the various modes then let me have
> your opinion. We could have a qso on CW while WSPR is warming up!!!!!!!!
> g3kev
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Roger Lapthorn <rogerlapthorn@gmail.com>
> *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 01, 2009 7:47 PM
> *Subject:* Re: LF: wspr
>
> Mal,
>
> Not helpful and factually incorrect.
>
> 73s
> Roger
>
>
>
> 2009/9/1 mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
>
>>  All WSPR signals last evening struggling in QRN/QRS whereas they were
>> audible here and if in CW mode I could easily have made a real time QSO.
>> decode was marginal, and then the same old repetive rubbish.
>> g3kev
>>
>>
>>
>
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Yes, looking forward to a CW QSO Mal when I&#39;ve got the TX together and=
 a half decent antenna. On the digital stuff we can agree to disagree.<br>=
<br>All the best<br><br>Roger<br>G3XBM<br><br><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_=
quote">
2009/9/1 mal hamilton <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:g3kevmal@tal=
ktalk.net">g3kevmal@talktalk.net</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class=3D"gm=
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<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Roger I am stating the facts, someone=
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mentioned seeing the signals on the waterfall but they were not decoding.=
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could easlily have made a qso on cw given the strength of signals whereas=
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was not decoding, so the exercise is pointless.</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Get active on LF/MF transmitting and=
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<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">g3kev</font></div>
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<b>From:</b>=20
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com" target=3D"_blank">Roger=20
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djust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>Subject:</b> Re: LF: wspr</div>
  <div><br></div>Mal,<br><br>Not helpful and factually=20
  incorrect.<br><br>73s<br>Roger<br><br><br><br>
  <div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/9/1 mal hamilton <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<=
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    <div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">decode was marginal, and then the=
 same old=20
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    <div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">g3kev</font></div>
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Adding my thoughts to the debate, 500Khz and WSPR has rekindled my interest
in radio and I am learning lots in new areas.  As a G7 and not an expert in
CW, if CW was the only means of communication on the band then I would not
have been as able to participate, experiment and learn as I have done with
WSPR.  Additionally, the use of WSPR on other bands encouraged me on to 500
as I was definitely "weak signal" and now I am trying and enjoying CW QSOs
too.

The database and software allow the analysis and deduction of lots of info
and data from the reports and their locations.

For me it is not a case of CW vs WSPR (or indeed other data modes e.g. WOLF)
but far more having a go at them all in a challenging environment and giving
the old grey matter a bit of a "run out" and learning some new stuff into
the bargain i.e. self training.

As I have said in other posts, it whacks the pants off 20m SSB for sense of
achievement and enjoyment (as well as outright frustration!)

I'm sure once we've all got WSPR sorted we'll be running WSJT in QSO mode
and then we can exchange information as per the original poster's comment.

Just my thoughts and YMMV

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-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Peter Cleall
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Subject: LF: defence of WSPR Signals

I have always been interested in propagation.
These WSPR signals are seen by some as repetitious rubbish.

 If you use , WSPR, the Internet database and your own receptions you soon
realise that there are subtle variations in signal particularly QSB that are
different over day/ night paths, transitions at dawn and dusk and
differences on N/S and E/W paths. Northern stations seem favoured for E/W
propagation and distance between stations also has an effect.

At last we have software and a process for examining in near real time the
subtlety of these variations. We can see the signal reports from many
distances and directions at the same time. I think we will learn a lot more
over the winter if we continue with these tests. I would like to think that
in the future we could have some coordinated test times which would get a
greater number of receiving participants available at the same time.

Personally I have been working on propagation with WSPR for several months
on 30m. But  the recent activity by Andy, Jim and others has resulted in me
hunting out my 137kHz equipment that has not been used for a couple of years
and rebuilding a converter to hear my first signals on 500khz , since the
commercial stations disappeared. I can see from the other reports on the
database that I need to do more work on Aerials and i suspect that I still
have a lot to learn about signals and equipment overload. Thee existence of
a few known reference signals is essential to improving ones equipment and
knowledge. I t think this is all part of the spirit of amateur radio for our
self education in radio techniques which is a major justification for us to
have licenses.

regards
peterG8AFN


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===========================================

WSPR signals last evening copied from G4JNT, G4WGT, G7NKS and SM6BHZ on
500kHz. Also very strong signal during the day from M0BMU on 137kHz.My
report of your DFCW signal on 137 the other day, Jim, had the wrong
frequency - sorry about that, added the difference 20Hz rather than
subtracted from my RX offset - should have been 137.68 of course.Tend to
agree with Mal's comments, I am having difficulty in seeing the point of
some of this when there is little in the way of exchanged information
between stations. There is a place for beacons, certainly. What concerns me
is that the casual listener tuning across the band probably has no idea
there's anybody on.Vy 73,Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent, JO01MI.



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mal hamilton wrote:
> JIM YOU HAVE A MORE SERIOUS PROBLEM
> FACTS AND FICTION MIXED UP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>> Dear Mal, LF Group,
>>
>> Please check your keyboard - the shift key seems to be stuck!
>>
>> Cheers, Jim Moritz
>> 73 de M0BMU
>>
>>
>>> THIS OBSERVATION IS INCORRECT. etc. etc. etc....
>>

Thanks all. This is definitely my favourite internet group. Never a dull 
moment.

Keep up the good work chaps.

73

Richard
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Dear LF,

this evening i test an SSB Beacon, QRG 508 kHz LSB.
Reports are welcome.

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<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4>this evening i test an SSB Beacon, QRG=
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Most great men come from NI including 12 ex Presidents of the USA. I could 
go on but must get back to pounding the key. There is some nice choice DX 
about on HF. I am getting distracted by these emails,  also I am trying to 
get a 1/2 wave inv V installed for 500 for the coming DX season.
G3KEV

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "James Cowburn" <james.cowburn@virgin.net>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 11:34 AM
Subject: LF: RE: Re: Re: Re: Re: Malcontent...


> He's from Northern Ireland and was transported to the Yorkshire penal 
> colony
> of Scarborough for being too vexatious and grumpy for the Northern Irish,
> (that in itself is an achievement given that the Northern Irish are 
> accepted
> as the most argumentative and provocativee of the peoples who live on this
> group of cold damp islands in the North Sea!)
>
> So far off group topic as likely to incur the wrath of moderators and big
> brothers so I'll stop now and get back to my coil and transformer winding
> and sausage sandwich
>
> With best regards
>
>
> Jim
>
>
> Dr. James Cowburn
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of VK2ZTO
> Sent: 22 September 2009 11:16
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: Re: Malcontent...
>
> Mal,
>
>>
>> I am not from Yorkshire and therefore the Yorkshire accent is non
>> applicable.
>>
>
> Sorry - I thought Scarborough was in Yorkshire - I will have to look up
> Google Maps.
>
> Or perhaps you mean you are a blow in (not born there, but moved there..).
>
>>
>> We have strayed away from LF/MF time to get back on track What is WSPR
>> doing for AUSTRALIA?
>>
>
> I like to learn.  I believe I will have something to learn everyday until 
> I
> die.   At least that is my fervent wish (to learn, not to die...).
>
> I played with WSPR for a couple of months and it taught me a lot about
> propagation.    With normal ham operation you don't get the 24/7 band
> opening watch as you do with WSPR.
>
> WSPR is not for everyone - especially if you are after the awards.    I am 
> a
>
> self-confessed non-award chaser.
>
> For those who, like myself, are still fascinated by the sheer magic of 
> radio
>
> even after 40 years, WSPR allows a fascinating (granted non-perfect) view 
> of
>
> radio propagation.
>
> Here in Australia (I speak for the period when I was using it), it kindled 
> a
>
> lot of interest and discussion amongst those of us who like talking about
> radio to like-minded individuals.   I can only say it has been a positive
> influence.
>
> These days the newest interest in VK for a lot of us is our newly acquired
> access to the 136kHz.
>
> Despite being old hat for some over there, here it has sparked a rush to 
> the
>
> soldering irons and delving into raising the bar regarding frequency
> accuracy and stability.
>
> Spare a though for us in VK, just when we have arrived at the 136kHz 
> trough,
>
> the rest of the world is heading off for the 500kHz feeding station
> (including our leaders in things LF/MF over here, the Kiwis...)
>
> 73   Steve Olney - VK2XV
>
> http://www.djirra.com
>
>
>


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This is well on par with the  goon show ,=20

how to  open the  door , turn the  handle on your side . but I haven't=
 .....etc=20

>> wasn't decoding because I don't yet have a decoder.<<=20

Just the  song ,  .... .. ....  ..=20

G=20


From: Andy Talbot=20
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 8:11 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Subject: Re: LF: wspr


What has that got to do with LF ?

Andy
www.g4jnt.com

this email has been scanned for political correctness by the nanny sta=
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2009/9/2 Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>

  You just could not make it up !

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DgqsT4xnKZPg

  G .

  --------------------------------------------------
  From: "John RABSON" <john.rabson@numeo.fr>
  Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 9:47 PM
  To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
  Subject: Re: LF: wspr



    On 01/09/2009 at 20:17 mal hamilton wrote:


      Roger I am stating the facts, someone else mentioned seeing the=
 signals
      on the waterfall but they were not decoding. I could easlily hav=
e made a
      qso on cw given the strength of signals whereas WSPR was not dec=
oding, so
      the exercise is pointless.


    That was me.  I wasn't decoding because I don't yet have a decoder=
.  Had I had one, and given the snr I observed, I would have expected=
 100% copy. On the few occasions I have heard Mal, his snr has not bee=
n anything like as good as WSPR.

    John F5VLF










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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>This is well on par with the&nbsp; go=
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A   title=3D"mailto:and=
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<DIV>What has that got to do with LF ?</DIV>
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Roger Lapthorn wrote:
> Success!!! Recalibrated the sound card as suggested and BINGO - decode on
> first try!
>

Great news!

Now we need some real QRPp to test this mode with - it's supposed to be 
able to average over many frames to pull a decode out of the noise, but 
at present Jim's signal is too strong - it's decoding on the first frame!

Any chance of a 30dB reduction in ERP?

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Dear Jay, LF Group,

I will be going out shortly, but the RX will be set to 508.5kHz in the hope 
of copying your sigs.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU

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> WE2XGR/2 will transmit in WOLF mode tonight from 2230 - 0330Z on 508.5 
> kHz. Local sunset is 2300Z. Reports are always appreciated.



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Dear Andy, LF Group,

AA1A is "real"... his name is Dave.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU

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> K1JT and A1AA certainly appear to report a lot of Dx WSPR spots :-)
> I do wish users would eithe rset their callsign / locator properly or turn
> off automatic upload.
>



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mal hamilton wrote:
> Maybe u like FICTION I like FACTS

Mal, please have a look at the FACTS at:

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shannon-Hartley_theorem

These are the "rules" that all kinds of communications have to obey to
when information is sent through a noisy channel. Believe me, hand sent
CW is no exception!

I agree with you that CW is both fun and efficient, I am a keen CW
operator myself by the way (QRP HF), but, by today's standards, CW is
simply not the most efficient way to communicate.


73
Johan SM6LKM


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Early this morning I've started to be heard by *G7NKS* as well (thank you
for the "new reporter" spots) as well as by G6ALB (better reports - I think
he's worked on his RX), M0BMU and G3XVL.I'll leave the beacon running until
after breakfast in case anoyone else hears me.

 2009-09-17 07:06  G3XBM  0.503799  -29  1  JO02dg  0.001  G7NKS  IO92ub
 46  240   2009-09-17 07:04  G3XBM  0.503798  -29  0  JO02dg  0.001  G7NKS
 IO92ub  46  240   2009-09-17 06:44  G3XBM  0.503802  -29  0  JO02dg  0.001
 G7NKS  IO92ub  46  240   2009-09-17 06:24  G3XBM  0.503803  -30  0  JO02dg
 0.001  G7NKS  IO92ub  46  240
Total of 4 different stations hearing my very minuscule station is
encouraging.

73s
Roger G3XBM
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http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/
http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
G3XBM    GQRP 1678      ISWL G11088

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er reports - I think he&#39;s worked on his RX), M0BMU and G3XVL.I&#39;ll=
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"all">Total of 4 different stations hearing my very minuscule station is=
 encouraging.<br><br>
73s<br>Roger G3XBM<br>-- <br>---------------------------------------------=
----------------<br><a href=3D"http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/">http://g3xb=
m-qrp.blogspot.com/</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.g3xbm.co.uk">http://www.g=
3xbm.co.uk</a><br>
G3XBM =A0 =A0GQRP 1678 =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL G11088<br>

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From: "Claude Berthebaud" <f8boj@club-internet.fr>
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Hello Jeff and LF group
Good transmission F6bwo Jeff
Many thank's for the qso...and good week end ALL
F8boj Claude JN16WA
Best regards
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Hello Gus, LF!<br><br>1834 -14&nbsp; 0.4&nbsp;&nbsp; 1.503925&nbsp; 0 SM6B=
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Hi Dave

Thanks for the report.  WOLF is next assuming I can get it to work!



With best regards
 
 
Jim
 
 
Dr. James Cowburn


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dave Sergeant
Sent: 16 September 2009 09:18
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Subject: LF: Re: G3XBM 500kHz WSPR tests

On 16 Sep 2009 at 8:48, James Cowburn wrote:

> Dear LF
> 
> The past two days have been quite bad for signals I have noticed. 
> Normally I get lots of decodes from many stations and now I am only
> getting Gus. Also there is a lot of noise on the waterfall trace too.
> 
> Still hoping to catch Roger
> 
> With best regards
> 
> 
> Jim

Well the last two nights yourself and Gus have been the only two 
stations active apart from Roger. Last night you were a consistent
-17dB - for a while Gus was transmitting 100% and I was decoding you 
100% even though you were only 10Hz away. I also have high static QRN 
from mid evening onwards, but it didn't seem to affect copy - the one 
time when it seemed to have stopped I had accidentally managed to get 
WSPR7 into 'freeze' mode. And Roger, if you are only getting Jim at
 -30dB I guess there is some work to do on that antenna...

192200   4  -6  3.5    48  0  SM6BHZ JO57 30        
192400   9 -21  3.5    26  0  SM6BHZ JO57 30        
192600   8 -17  3.5    26  0  SM6BHZ JO57 30        
192800   8 -10  3.4    26  0  SM6BHZ JO57 30        
192800   9 -13  4.3    38 -1  G7NKS IO92 23         
193000   5 -11  3.4    27  0  SM6BHZ JO57 30        
193200   9 -12  3.5    26  0  SM6BHZ JO57 30        
194400   8   0  3.6    26  0  SM6BHZ JO57 30        
194600   8   0  3.6    27  0  SM6BHZ JO57 30        
194600   7 -17  4.2    42  0  G7NKS IO92 23         
195000  10  -1  3.6    27  1  SM6BHZ JO57 30        
200000  11   3  3.7    27  0  SM6BHZ JO57 30        
200600  11  -1  3.6    27  0  SM6BHZ JO57 30        
200600   7 -17  4.2    46 -1  G7NKS IO92 23         
201200   9  -8  3.4    25  0  SM6BHZ JO57 30        
201400   9  -5  3.4    26  0  SM6BHZ JO57 30        
201400   8 -17  3.7    40 -1  G7NKS IO92 23         
201600   8  -1  3.4    25  0  SM6BHZ JO57 30        
201800   8  -7  3.5    25  0  SM6BHZ JO57 30        
202000  14  -5  3.4    25  0  SM6BHZ JO57 30        

73 Dave G3YMC

http://www.davesergeant.com




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Piotr,

Well the  UK is allocated   501  KHz to  504 KHz

Power is  now   10 watts ERP ,

Modes allowed appear to be  all modes except 'speech' , with the  prov=
iso of=20
'none interference' to  other  users , to  date I do not  know of any=
  such=20
problems with  interference. Licence applications  indicated the  requ=
ired=20
modes.

The original  emphasis was on 'purely experimentation' however this ha=
s=20
matured into mixture of  conventional and  experimental traffic , but=
=20
significantly the  UK allocation still allows experimental operation=
 and as=20
its viewed as a 'variation' , enables communication with   stations =
 in and=20
out side the UK

This aspect  makes the  allocation quite  versatile and is worth  requ=
esting=20
,

Good luck

Graham



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From: "Piotr M=C5=82ynarski" <sq7mpj@toya.net.pl>
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 9:54 PM
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>
> Dear LF group,
> The present discussion  about  uk/us 500 kHz bandplan  has triggered=
  a
> question which i  was going to  put here, on this reflector ,
> for some time.  In Poland, we still lack this MF band allocation to
> radioamateurs.  There is a small group of hams interested  in  havin=
g an
> access to this band..
> Some time ago i was asked  by one of our  PZK ( Polish Radioamateur
> Union)  officials to prepare a  sort of a  preliminary note about th=
is
> issue
> I plan to write such a  note ( along with Marcin, sq2bxi and others)
> Athough this lf_reflector is uk based we all know that it has a
> world-wide character including stations from G,W,F,DL,S,OK,ON,EI,PA,=
I
> ,OE,HB,VE
> ( i am sorry if  any other country prefix has been ommited) . Theref=
ore
> , my ask is the following:
> please , write  here  , on this reflector,   the 500 khz band
> allocation in particular countries  i.e.  band limits as well as  =
 EIRP
> power,special permits. etc...
> Obviously,  with such an information provided  the   "power" of  suc=
h a
> note will be greatly increased.
>
>
> 73 de Piotr, sq7mpj
> qth: Lodz /jo91rs/
>
>



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Hi Gus, Jim, LF,

1920   -23  0.9   0.503926  SM6BHZ JO57 30
1932   -16  1.0   0.503926  SM6BHZ JO57 30
1938   -15  1.1   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 30
1948   -10  0.9   0.503926  SM6BHZ JO57 40
1958     -8  0.9   0.503926  SM6BHZ JO57 40
2002   -26  0.8   0.503841  M0BMU IO91 33
2004     -2  1.0   0.503926  SM6BHZ JO57 40
2006   -27  0.6   0.503841  M0BMU IO91 33
2014   -26  1.4   0.503841  M0BMU IO91 33
2014   -14  0.8   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 40
2018   -22  0.8   0.503841  M0BMU IO91 33
2022     -6  1.0   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 40
2028     -6  0.8   0.503926  SM6BHZ JO57 40
2032   -21  0.8   0.503841  M0BMU IO91 33
2032     -5  0.9   0.503926  SM6BHZ JO57 40
2038     -8  1.0   0.503926  SM6BHZ JO57 40
2046     -3  1.0   0.503926  SM6BHZ JO57 40
2050   -29  0.8   0.503841  M0BMU IO91 33
2052     -9  0.7   0.503926  SM6BHZ JO57 40
2056   -30  0.6   0.503841  M0BMU IO91 33
2056     -9  0.8   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 40
2102   -24  0.5   0.503841  M0BMU IO91 33
2102     -9  0.8   0.503927  SM6BHZ JO57 40
2108   -21  0.6   0.503841  M0BMU IO91 33
2110     -7  0.9   0.503926  SM6BHZ JO57 40
2116   -20  0.6   0.503841  M0BMU IO91 33
2116   -15  0.6   0.503926  SM6BHZ JO57 40
2122   -24  2.1   0.503841  M0BMU IO91 33
2124     -7  0.8   0.503926  SM6BHZ JO57 40

73
Andrey


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James Moritz wrote:
> Dear LF Group,
> 
> Thanks for the reports overnight - the WOLF10 beacon closed down at 0600utc.
> 
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU 
> 
> 

Thanks for running the test Jim,


The final 5 frames:-

2009-09-10 05:51:37 >WOLF10  -r 7997.017 -f 1000 -t 1.0 -d 5 -w 0.0000
t:  24 f: 0.341 a: 0.4 dp: 71.3 ci: 0 cj:  0 3.C/ *8CSAUMYFS ?
t:  48 f: 0.341 a: 0.4 dp: 71.6 ci: 0 cj:  0 TVQQ70CKWW6FS5B ?
t:  96 f: 0.341 a: 0.3 dp: 70.9 ci:13 cj:218 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t: 192 f: 0.342 pm:40.11 jm:525 q:  6.6  6.1 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t: 288 f: 0.342 pm:84.27 jm:525 q:  9.3  9.4 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t: 384 f: 0.342 pm:129.0 jm:525 q: 10.9 11.0 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t: 480 f: 0.342 pm:170.2 jm:525 q: 11.7 12.3 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t: 576 f: 0.342 pm:179.2 jm:525 q: 11.5 12.0 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -

I've sent you the full night's decodes directly.

Cheers,

John



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Gus,

I didn't copy anything after 0045Z. I will try again tonight from my home QTH.

John, W1TAG

---- Gus <begu@algonet.se> wrote: 
> Hello John and LF,
> 
> thank's report and info !
> Transmitter stoped after an upgrade last night.
> I will let transmitter run from now and all night in WSPR !
> Dial 502.5 kHz USB.
> 
> 73 de Gus SM6BHZ
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
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> 
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> >I have some copy of SM6BHZ in the past half hour:
> > 0016 -29  0.9   0.503951   0  SM6BHZ JO57 30
> > 0026 -28  1.0   0.503951   0  SM6BHZ JO57 30
> > 0034 -27  1.0   0.503951   0  SM6BHZ JO57 30
> > 0040 -26  1.2   0.503951   0  SM6BHZ JO57 30
> > 
> > Will let it run overnight and see if any other calls show up.
> > 
> > John Andrews, W1TAG/1
> > Raymond, Maine FN42ch
> >
> 
> 
> 



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And maybe if you take the attenuators out again you will reach the 
dizzy heights of Bracknell.... I did monitor till around 10pm last 
night but no sign, but the QRN got attrocious and I even lost copy of 
Jim. IO think it was a bit late when I turned on this morning, with 
lower noise, but no sign. But if Jim is copying you I am not really 
that much further (well at 120km it is about twice the distance...).

73 Dave G3YMC

On 14 Sep 2009 at 15:52, Roger Lapthorn wrote:

> This afternoon I fired up my 700mW 500kHz WSPR beacon and wet string
> (ERP microwatts) and got 3 reports from G3XVL at 61kms.
> 
> So, I tried putting a 6dB then a 10dB attenuator between the PA and the
> ATU. Even with the power from the PA of just 70mW (never mind what that
> would be as ERP from the antenna) he still gave me a -25dB S/N report!
> These were the three reports in reverse ordder:
> 
>  2009-09-14 14:42  G3XBM  0.503829  -25  1  JO02dg  0.001  G3XVL  JO02nb
>  61  112   2009-09-14 14:40  G3XBM  0.503827  -23  1  JO02dg  0.001 
>  G3XVL JO02nb  61  112   2009-09-14 14:36  G3XBM  0.503823  -18  1 
>  JO02dg  0.001 G3XVL  JO02nb  61  112
> 73s
> Roger
> G3XBM

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*Newbie help please.....*

As I'd like to try listening to the WOLF transmissions people are sending on
500kHz, can someone give me a link or two to *suitable software and
installation instructions *please?  Is there the equivalent of K1JT's WSPR
software than simply installs and runs? At this stage I am only interested
in receiving.

I assume that a reasonable XP laptop and a SignaLink USB are all that I need
in addition to my FT817, as for WSPR.

73s
Roger G3XBM

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<b><i>Newbie help please.....</i></b><br><br>As I&#39;d like to try listen=
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On 14 Sep 2009 at 21:54, Dennis wrote:

> 
> > >>>I have learnt, WSPR sounds like a slightly rough CW and is
> > >>>transmitted
> > in 
> > >>>4min-blocks. <<<<<
> > 
> > Dennis , That may  not be wspr , wspr  tx time is  120 seconds locked
> > to the exact time , with the  start time on the  00-00 by sound its
> > like a very  slow narrow shift psk signal .....but it is only one 
> > carrier  changing frequency  with  no breaks in the 120 second
> > transmission
> 
> Okay better to say: One cycle seemed to be 4min, divided into abt.
> 115sec TX and 125sec no TX, maybe RX? The beginning of the received
> transmissions were always well within half a second around even minute +
> zero seconds which to me seems to be the strongest hint that is really
> was some wspr what I was hearing. (DCF77-clock beside the speaker)
> 
> Since yesterday I'm looking for a notebook - to run wspr :)
> 
> vy73
> Dennis
> DL6NVC
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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How do you Jack up an Antenna

Bob K3DJC

> > Dear LF Group,
> >
> > The M0BMU WSPR beacon is running again - I have jacked up the 
> antenna to 
> > increase the ERP a bit. G4WGT and G7NKS are also active - any 
> reports 
> > would be very welcome.
> >
> > Cheers, Jim Moritz
> > 73 de M0BMU
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More than you think.
CANNOT SAY YOU ARE AN EXPERT!!!!!!!!!!!! Where is your SIGNAL ? on LF/MF

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> Peter Cleall wrote:
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>> I have always been interested in propagation.
>> These WSPR signals are seen by some as repetitious rubbish.
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> Not by some... by just one... the group troll...
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Hello Chris,do you have a screen capture of my transmission ?
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James Cowburn wrote:
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> 
>  
> 
> G7NKS   ("No Known Signal! Hi hi) will be also txing on Wolf tonight.  I
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> on.
> 
James,

What frequency? I can see a strong trace from Jim on 503.5 (tuned to 
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JH1GVY 137.7775 QRSS 120 Will be QRV tonight again tonight, Saturday from=
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Antennae is 40/50m vertical balloon, Tx around  50W, circa 1W ERP.=20

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QTH  PM96UC, 50km north of Tokyo

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Some of his details and experiences on LF and 160m=20

http://www003.upp.so-net.ne.jp/JH1GVY/index.html

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Hes certainly putting out a signal both into VK and China  and bodes well=
 for Eu later in the year....

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Ill have one receiver on 137 and the SDR on WSPR 502.4

=20

73

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Grabs Alaksa http://kl1x.com/dx00000.jpg

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JH1GVY 137.7775 QRSS 120 Will be QRV tonight again tonight, Saturday from=
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&nbsp;<BR>
Antennae is 40/50m vertical balloon, Tx around &nbsp;50W, circa 1W ERP. <B=
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<FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;<BR>
<FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;<BR>
<FONT face=3DArial>QTH &nbsp;PM96UC, 50km north of Tokyo</FONT><BR>
<FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;<BR>
<FONT face=3DArial>Some of his details and experiences on LF and 160m </FO=
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<A href=3D"http://www003.upp.so-net.ne.jp/JH1GVY/index.html"><FONT face=3D=
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<FONT face=3DArial>Hes certainly putting out a&nbsp;signal both into VK an=
d China&nbsp; and bodes well for Eu later in the year....</FONT><BR>
<FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;<BR>
<FONT face=3DArial>Ill have one receiver on 137 and the SDR on WSPR 502.4<=
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<FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;<BR>
<FONT face=3DArial>73</FONT><BR>
<FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;<BR>
<FONT face=3DArial>Laurence in BY3A</FONT><BR>
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Hello Marcin, LF!
OK, that=B4s fine, I will be ready  tomorrow at 19:00Z on 137.700 QRSS3 or=
 DFCW3.=20
Thanks!

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

******************
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> From: bxi@go2.pl
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 14:13:13 +0200
> Subject: LF: Re: HF70W_sked
>=20
> Hello Lubos, LF
> OK! Mayby tomorrow (29 September ) about 19:00 UTC ?
> --
> Vy 73!
> Marcin SQ2BXI
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> Hello Marcin, LF!
> I would like to make a QSO with HF70W. When you will be QRV in QRSS3 mod=
e,
> let me know, please.
> I hope you are successful in CQWW_RTTY!
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> Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS
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> **********************
>=20
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> > From: bxi@go2.pl
> > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> > Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 10:50:44 +0200
> > Subject: LF: Re: HF70W
> >
> > Dear Nicolas, Lubos, Henny and LF
> >
> > Thank for HF70W raports.
> > Next station activity friday and saturday.
> >
> > I sleep after CQ WW RTTY Contest :-)
> > --
> > Vy 73!
> > Marcin SQ2BXI
> >
> >
> >
> > Hello Marcin,strong tonight.
> >
> >
> > F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP
> >
> > RX : Icom IC7400
> > Ant: Wellbrook LFL 1010
> > http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/
> >
>=20
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> P=F8edve=EFte sv=F9j styl pomoc=ED zobrazen=ED obr=E1zk=F9 v Messenger.=
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> v=B9echny. Klikni zde!
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<br>Hello Marcin, LF!<br>OK, that=B4s fine, I will be ready&nbsp; tomorrow=
 at 19:00Z on 137.700 QRSS3 or DFCW3. <br>Thanks!<br><br>Lubos, OK2BVG, JN=
88KS<br><br>******************<br>&nbsp;<br>&gt; From: bxi@go2.pl<br>&gt;=
 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<br>&gt; Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 14:13:13=
 +0200<br>&gt; Subject: LF: Re: HF70W_sked<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Hello Lubos,=
 LF<br>&gt; OK! Mayby tomorrow (29 September ) about 19:00 UTC ?<br>&gt;=
 --<br>&gt; Vy 73!<br>&gt; Marcin SQ2BXI<br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt=
; Hello Marcin, LF!<br>&gt; I would like to make a QSO with HF70W. When yo=
u will be QRV in QRSS3 mode,<br>&gt; let me know, please.<br>&gt; I hope=
 you are successful in CQWW_RTTY!<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS<b=
r>&gt; <br>&gt; **********************<br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; &gt; From=
: bxi@go2.pl<br>&gt; &gt; To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<br>&gt; &gt; Da=
te: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 10:50:44 +0200<br>&gt; &gt; Subject: LF: Re: HF70W<br=
>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; Dear Nicolas, Lubos, Henny and LF<br>&gt; &gt;<br>=
&gt; &gt; Thank for HF70W raports.<br>&gt; &gt; Next station activity frid=
ay and saturday.<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; I sleep after CQ WW RTTY Contes=
t :-)<br>&gt; &gt; --<br>&gt; &gt; Vy 73!<br>&gt; &gt; Marcin SQ2BXI<br>&g=
t; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; Hello Marcin,strong tonight=
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Did you get any Canadian submarines replying :-))
Alan G3NYK


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> Dear LF Group,
>
> The M0BMU WSPR beacon is now running on 135.5kHz "dial frequency",
137.0kHz
> RF out. Note change of frequency to try to avoid DCF39/HGA22 sidebands,
> which some stations experience problems with. Any reports over the next
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> hours would be very welcome.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
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>



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Hi Gary, thanks for this info about the G4JNT beacon!
Have been overlooking this opportunity, somehow.
Nice to have a signal to listen to. :)

vy73
Dennis
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> Datum: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 10:22:58 +0100
> Von: Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
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> Betreff: Re: LF: signal

> Hi Roman, LF,
> 
> The signal on 503.700 kHz you can see on my grabber is the propagation
> beacon being run by Andy G4JNT, transmissions are at15 minute
> intervals at 0004, 0019, 0034 & 0049 minutes of each hour. The beacon
> now runs 24/7.


































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Dear LF Group,

M0BMU QRT at 0712utc. Thanks for all the overnight reports.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU


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Dear LF Group,

Thanks for the reports overnight - the WOLF10 beacon closed down at 0600utc.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU 



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Dear Roman,

Thanks for the grabber - I can see my signal on it at 0:17:56

Cheers, Jim moritz
73 de M0BMU

----- Original Message ----- 
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>* James Moritz <james.moritz@btopenworld.com> [Sun, 6 Sep 2009 21:05:12 
> +0100]:
>> Dear LF Group,
> Hi Jim & LF!
> Start my grabber on 503.5 dial freq.
> http://qrss.nm.ru/grabber.html
> But do not any traces near 504.
> 
> Roman



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Hello Claude.

Thank you for our first QSO. Your signals were very strong at this QTH, near
Windsor, South East England. My transmitter runs 200W RF out, and the
antenna is a 20m "Tee" antenna at 5m high....not very good for LF work! My
receiver is an ICOM IC-PCR1000 with a tuned pre-amp for 137 kHz.

73 and hope we work again soon,

Dave G3WCB IO91RM ne Windsor, S E England.



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Hello Dave and LF group
Thank you for this first qso g3wcb dave ....
now I'm not good antenna for you in good
conditions the antenna used for this traditional
band is in maintenace now ... your signal here was
Mr. MM ..... then finally qso on loop for the top band hi
My locator is JN16WA ...
L inv 172m .....
qsl info ...qrz.com
Dave good weekend ... see you soon on 137 khz
73's F8boj Claude..

----- Original Message -----
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> LF,
> F8BOJ very strong QRSS signals this morning on 137.740. Screenshot
> attached.
> New station for me!
>
> 73, Dave IO91RM nr Windsor, S E England
>
>



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dr Claude, LF group

any station in 3sec-mode on the screen this morning:

F8BOJ "O", tu for the QSO! dr Claude.
HB9ASB "M", i hope for a QSO soon!
SO5AS "M", tu for QSO again Steve!
F6BWO "O"
M0BMU "O"
F4DTL "T"

GL 73 Edgar
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Hello James,

good copy up to 0dB SNR:
      2009-09-04 20:56   M0BMU   0.503975   0   0   IO91vr   2   DL4RAJ   JN68kj   1003   107


see also WSPR Database.

73
Clemens
DL4RAJ


----- Original Message ----- 
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> Dear LF Group,
>
> The M0BMU WSPR beacon is running again tonight 0n 503.975kHz (502.4k "dial
> frequency"). Any reports are very welcome. Also a very strong signal from
> SM6BHZ tonight.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>


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Hi Peter and LF,

thanks report and info.
Also tonight i will run WSPR.

73 de Gus SM6BHZ
www.sm6bhz.com

----- Original Message ----- 
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> Dear Gus, LF Group,
> this evening i have a strong qrm on 500 khz so i've already switched off
> my rx gear.
> you will find  (attached)  a part  of a wspr receiving window  where
> this qrm is  (on average) stronger than Gus signal
> and  partially overlapping it but still  i've got a positive decode of
> SM6BHZ  at 2112 UTC ( it is sent to wspr database)
> 090908 2112  23  -7  0.6   0.503955  SM6BHZ JO57 40
>
>                                                 73 de peter, sq7mpj
> qth: Lodz  /jo91rs/
> 





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Hello Lubos, Marcin,
I saw traces from signals. But here the strongest
QRM from broadcasting station to 21z (153 khz).

73 Andrey


>
> Hello MArcin, LF!
> Thanks for very nice QSO, I am pleased. Your signal was fine - see the picture.
>
> 73!
>
> Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS
>
>
> _________________________________________________________________
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Steve.
Strange that you are the only one that has noticed this. I have heard a lot 
worse said about POME'S from AUS sources over the years.
Glad that I am not a POME. Are you going to publish? A Wireless Operator 
needs a sense of humour on LF/MF.
G'day. You have a lot of information, was this research for your PHd
de G3KEV now back to pounding the morse key, 20 metres looks good at 
present.




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Subject: LF: Malcontent...


> G'day All,
>
> I can't believe why you guys get so steamed up about Mal's comments.
> Surely you know Mal is a troll (internet term - look it up...).
>
> If you don't believe me go to link below - its official....
>
> http://www.warcraftrealms.com/char/7964283
>
> Note the Guild name....
>
> Seriously - Mal has a right to express an opinion (perhaps not in UPPER
> CASE..), and everyone has a right to respond - but just be aware he is a
> troll.   You can rise to the bait or not - your choice.   As a fisherman
> nothing gives Mal more pleasure than a bite (including, I suspect, this
> one).
>
> Mal and I go back a long way - he has amused me for longer than I can
> remember.    So much so I have kept a record of some of his "gems".    He
> has been trying for the Worked All Northern Continents award for years 
> now.
>
> Here are a few of my personal favourite quotes (taking from the PUBLIC
> record, not from personal communications with me old china plate).
>
> ****Taken during Mal's QRSS/computer/digital bashing stage....*****
>
> "To date all qrss activity that I have seen could be
> copied on normal aural cw at my qth. I suppose if one has a poor
> antenna, low power and a noisy qth then maybe qrss is the only way if
> you must work on 136 khz. Fortunately I do not have these problems.
> 73 de Mal/G3KEV"
>
> "Qrss is discouraging experimenters from improving their antennas,
> receivers and associated equipment to make a normal aural qso. It is also
> encouraging nodding off (sleeping) during the hours that it takes to get a
> MMM.
> OOO, OXO etc
> I hope the lazy mans cw will not prevail above 20 khz !!!
> 73 de Mal/G3KEV"
>
> "Suggested awards for those long haul qso's across the atlantic.
>
> Grade 1......
> Grade 2.....
> Grade 3  Those using a sophisticated computer generated mode like very 
> slow
> cw,...
> Good Luck de G3KEV"
>
> "At present it seems to be the TAIL WAGGING THE DOG with the few trying to
> convince the rest of us that we should go to psk, lazy mans cw generated 
> and
> displayed by a video monitor, or long long dashes on high power causing 
> qrm
> to the rest of potential users of the band
> Critic/G3KEV"
>
> *****Look familiar ?    Remember this is from years ago.******
>
> *****Then Mal had a conversion....  starts out with lower case qrs and
> builds to an upper case QRS....*****
>
> "Considering the bandwith constraints on both 73 and 136 khz the most
> efficient method is normal CW whether it be qrs or normal speed where
> applicable.
> ...
> My suggestion as previously stated it to learn and operate conventional
> CW and know your appropriate Q codes and use QRS or normal speed as
> appropriate.
> 73 De G3KEV"
>
> "I tried some 60 sec dot qrs last night for a short time around 2330...
>
> The old system worked very well when everyone was on QRS side by side
> 73 and Happy New Year to all de Mal/G3KEV"
>
> "...or any advantage
> over QRS which takes the minimum bandwith of all the modes to achieve the
> object on a very narrow band.
>
> the only suitable mode for this
> band is CW, normal speed and QRS.
> G3KEV"
>
> "Thanks John for the confirmation that my signals were visible and 
> readable
> last
> night.  I will be on tonight at the same time 2300 - 0200 approx same qrg
> 135.922
> khz and QRS 60 sec dots.
> de Mal/G3KEV"
>
> "Yes I would like the screen shots please.
> de Mal/G3KEV"
>
>
> So - cut Mal some slack.   He is almost always right - its just he is 
> always
> a few years behind everyone else.
>
> WSPR is just Mal's latest whipping post.    You can choose to be tied to 
> it
> or not....
>
> 73 Steve VK2ZTO
>
>
>


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Well, easy for some (I can see) but NOT for me. What am I doing wrong?

19:19:11 >WOLF RESTARTED
t:  24 f: 0.367 a:-0.5 dp: 85.8 ci: 1 cj:  0 1STCG6J2X7EUEWZ ?
t:  48 f: 0.366 a:-0.4 dp: 85.7 ci: 2 cj:  0 VP*JV9IX47R60ZC ?
t:  96 f: 0.365 a:-0.3 dp: 85.3 ci: 6 cj:310 K.RU24.Q9AE21FZ ?
t: 192 f: 0.391 pm:10.86 jm:135 q:-11.5 -9.4 FOFTI.6ISF EOGB ?
t: 288 f:-0.400 pm:14.10 jm:255 q:-10.7 -5.7 ABMR90MGQ54T6P/ ?
t: 384 f:-0.078 pm:14.23 jm:  1 q:-10.2 -7.8 P.7DUMD3EHD/94S ?
t: 480 f: 0.186 pm:15.66 jm:852 q: -9.2 -7.8 S0MISIL2.5URQJ. ?
t: 576 f:-0.195 pm:17.73 jm:416 q: -9.0 -7.7 .ZV01QUR4??? DB ?
t: 672 f: 0.762 pm:18.85 jm: 74 q:-10.3 -7.7 KFKN1G9 EPGXDN3 ?
t: 768 f: 0.342 pm:20.93 jm:135 q:-10.1 -7.6 ???HM.BKM56T4.9 ?
t: 864 f: 0.762 pm:22.51 jm: 74 q: -8.4 -9.2 R/92R8DJOHKK42J ?
t: 960 f: 0.332 pm:24.31 jm:159 q: -8.3 -7.2 I*/U 5EYP057LGS ?
t:1056 f: 0.332 pm:24.93 jm:159 q: -7.9 -8.0 8RZNALIB9XK GIA ?
t:1152 f: 0.332 pm:26.07 jm:159 q: -7.8 -7.8 *DNYG*DN0YZ 1ME ?
t:1248 f: 0.332 pm:28.64 jm:147 q: -7.1 -8.3 MW3YFN68VBY0754 ?
t:1344 f: 0.332 pm:29.74 jm:159 q: -6.7 -7.6 JBCAPMW.YV59S*/ ?
t:1440 f: 0.332 pm:30.10 jm:159 q: -6.5 -6.2 REO2D/Q82MGVTZ1 -
t:1536 f: 2.383 pm:30.67 jm:862 q: -5.3 -8.0 K*S.D71XBP*7M5J ?
t:1632 f: 0.332 pm:33.64 jm:874 q: -6.9 -7.5 /KC9V6702???CI3 ?
t:1728 f: 1.631 pm:37.36 jm:459 q: -5.2-10.2 S7VHN.7XBKFP V0 ?
t:1824 f: 0.332 pm:39.66 jm:874 q: -6.1 -8.1 DHGCVD9FG???.SW ?
t:1920 f: 0.332 pm:39.98 jm:874 q: -5.8 -7.1 FS ???D4QVDNMAQ ?
t:2016 f: 1.631 pm:40.76 jm:459 q: -4.7 -6.1 87H2914HR AMF8/ -
t:2112 f: 1.631 pm:41.33 jm:459 q: -4.7 -8.1 87H3EG0F3P6WS6X ?
t:2208 f: 0.254 pm:42.98 jm:415 q: -3.7 -7.7 TK0M 3TLTP/90XH ?
t:2304 f:-0.254 pm:44.74 jm:410 q: -3.8 -7.5 2MTQ .NSW5*1Q5S ?
t:2400 f:-0.254 pm:47.27 jm:410 q: -3.4 -8.6  .ZWBD1S1GFRZUO ?
t:2496 f:-0.254 pm:48.49 jm:410 q: -3.3 -8.7  .ZWBCC*RKD5.7/ ?
t:2592 f:-0.254 pm:49.53 jm:410 q: -3.0 -8.8  ./7EU2.D2ZS62G ?
t:2688 f:-0.254 pm:49.99 jm:410 q: -2.7 -6.0  ..1LCZAM77*5C9 -
t:2784 f: 0.303 pm:52.48 jm:467 q: -5.0 -8.7 4IVCSYMR1E*3R53 ?
t:2880 f: 0.303 pm:52.95 jm:467 q: -4.8 -5.9 4IVC27123T20NSC -
t:2976 f: 0.303 pm:53.97 jm:467 q: -4.7 -7.6 4IVDKPE86GVFAQT ?
...at which point I gave up.

And STILL no decode even though Jim is clear and strong on the waterfall.

73s
Roger G3XBM


2009/9/10 Piotr M=C5=82ynarski <sq7mpj@toya.net.pl>

> James Moritz wrote:
>
>  Dear Jim, Roger, LF Group,
>>
>> The M0BMU WOLF beacon is now running on 503.500kHz - I don't know what
>> frequency G7NKS plans to be on , but would suggest about 100Hz spacing.=
 If
>> you are at reasonably close distance, and set up on the right receive
>> frequency, you should be seeing a trace about 20Hz wide in the centre=
 of the
>> WOLF waterfall. However, for more distant stations, you can expect
>> successful decodes even when there is no visible trace. It should be
>> interesting to see how WOLF fares when trying to receive a weaker signa=
l
>> close to a stronger one.
>>
>> Any reports will be very welcome.
>>
>
>
> Dear Jim, LF  Group,
> Yesterday  evening/night i had all my rx  boxes off . I just read  the=
 new
> posts on the reflector. among them,  it was an email from John , GM4SLV
> John was saying it was too easy for him  to decode   WOLF  transmision=
 from
> Jim. I  thought immediately it is going to be too difficult for me to do=
 the
> same ..
> but it was a nice surprise:
> 2009-09-10 19:36:31 >WOLF10  -r 11025 -f 1000 -t 3 -w 0.0000
> t:  24 f:-2.129 a:-0.7 dp: 70.4 ci: 5 cj:257 27JXL*GCGV1KT0E ?
> t:  48 f: 1.439 a: 0.1 dp: 70.4 ci:13 cj:290 5 CL/.XMV. Q7GO ?
> t:  96 f:-0.322 a: 1.2 dp: 66.3 ci:11 cj: 46 X4*H4Y*08IQ/13X ?
> t: 192 f: 0.303 pm:28.63 jm:286 q: -0.5 -1.2 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
> t: 288 f: 0.312 pm:32.73 jm:286 q:  2.5  2.1 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
> t: 384 f: 0.322 pm:45.78 jm:286 q:  2.0  2.2 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
> t: 480 f: 0.342 pm:62.10 jm:286 q: -0.3 -1.5 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
> t: 576 f: 0.342 pm:83.95 jm:286 q:  2.7  1.8 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
> t: 672 f: 0.342 pm:86.72 jm:286 q:  3.4  2.6 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
> t: 768 f: 0.361 pm:103.4 jm:287 q:  2.6  1.9 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
> t: 864 f: 0.371 pm:116.4 jm:287 q:  3.2  0.9 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
> t: 960 f: 0.371 pm:125.2 jm:287 q:  5.3  3.5 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
> t:1056 f: 0.381 pm:148.5 jm:287 q:  4.4  4.3 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
> t:1152 f: 0.381 pm:151.3 jm:287 q:  5.9  5.7 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
> t:1248 f: 0.381 pm:152.7 jm:287 q:  6.2  6.0 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
>
>                                        73 de peter, sq7mpj
>
> qth: Lodz /jo91rs/
>
>
>
>


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Well, easy for some (I can see) but NOT for me. What am I doing wrong?<br>=
<br>19:19:11 &gt;WOLF RESTARTED<br>t:=C2=A0 24 f: 0.367 a:-0.5 dp: 85.8 ci=
: 1 cj:=C2=A0 0 1STCG6J2X7EUEWZ ?<br>t:=C2=A0 48 f: 0.366 a:-0.4 dp: 85.7=
 ci: 2 cj:=C2=A0 0 VP*JV9IX47R60ZC ?<br>
t:=C2=A0 96 f: 0.365 a:-0.3 dp: 85.3 ci: 6 cj:310 K.RU24.Q9AE21FZ ?<br>t:=
 192 f: 0.391 pm:10.86 jm:135 q:-11.5 -9.4 FOFTI.6ISF EOGB ?<br>t: 288 f:-=
0.400 pm:14.10 jm:255 q:-10.7 -5.7 ABMR90MGQ54T6P/ ?<br>t: 384 f:-0.078 pm=
:14.23 jm:=C2=A0 1 q:-10.2 -7.8 P.7DUMD3EHD/94S ?<br>
t: 480 f: 0.186 pm:15.66 jm:852 q: -9.2 -7.8 S0MISIL2.5URQJ. ?<br>t: 576=
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93 jm:135 q:-10.1 -7.6 ???HM.BKM56T4.9 ?<br>
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07 jm:159 q: -7.8 -7.8 *DNYG*DN0YZ 1ME ?<br>
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4 pm:42.98 jm:415 q: -3.7 -7.7 TK0M 3TLTP/90XH ?<br>t:2304 f:-0.254 pm:44.=
74 jm:410 q: -3.8 -7.5 2MTQ .NSW5*1Q5S ?<br>
t:2400 f:-0.254 pm:47.27 jm:410 q: -3.4 -8.6=C2=A0 .ZWBD1S1GFRZUO ?<br>t:2=
496 f:-0.254 pm:48.49 jm:410 q: -3.3 -8.7=C2=A0 .ZWBCC*RKD5.7/ ?<br>t:2592=
 f:-0.254 pm:49.53 jm:410 q: -3.0 -8.8=C2=A0 ./7EU2.D2ZS62G ?<br>t:2688 f:=
-0.254 pm:49.99 jm:410 q: -2.7 -6.0=C2=A0 ..1LCZAM77*5C9 -<br>
t:2784 f: 0.303 pm:52.48 jm:467 q: -5.0 -8.7 4IVCSYMR1E*3R53 ?<br>t:2880=
 f: 0.303 pm:52.95 jm:467 q: -4.8 -5.9 4IVC27123T20NSC -<br>t:2976 f: 0.30=
3 pm:53.97 jm:467 q: -4.7 -7.6 4IVDKPE86GVFAQT ?<br>...at which point I ga=
ve up.<br>
<br>And STILL no decode even though Jim is clear and strong on the waterfa=
ll.<br><br>73s<br>Roger G3XBM<br><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/9=
/10 Piotr M=C5=82ynarski <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:sq7mpj@to=
ya.net.pl">sq7mpj@toya.net.pl</a>&gt;</span><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204,=
 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div class=3D"i=
m">James Moritz wrote:<br>
<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204,=
 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Dear Jim, Roger, LF Group,<br>
<br>
The M0BMU WOLF beacon is now running on 503.500kHz - I don&#39;t know what=
 frequency G7NKS plans to be on , but would suggest about 100Hz spacing.=
 If you are at reasonably close distance, and set up on the right receive=
 frequency, you should be seeing a trace about 20Hz wide in the centre of=
 the WOLF waterfall. However, for more distant stations, you can expect su=
ccessful decodes even when there is no visible trace. It should be interes=
ting to see how WOLF fares when trying to receive a weaker signal close to=
 a stronger one.<br>

<br>
Any reports will be very welcome.<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
<br></div>
Dear Jim, LF =C2=A0Group,<br>
Yesterday =C2=A0evening/night i had all my rx =C2=A0boxes off . I just rea=
d =C2=A0the new posts on the reflector. among them, =C2=A0it was an email=
 from John , GM4SLV<br>
John was saying it was too easy for him =C2=A0to decode =C2=A0 WOLF =C2=A0=
transmision from Jim. I =C2=A0thought immediately it is going to be too di=
fficult for me to do the same ..<br>
but it was a nice surprise:<br>
2009-09-10 19:36:31 &gt;WOLF10 =C2=A0-r 11025 -f 1000 -t 3 -w 0.0000<br>
t: =C2=A024 f:-2.129 a:-0.7 dp: 70.4 ci: 5 cj:257 27JXL*GCGV1KT0E ?<br>
t: =C2=A048 f: 1.439 a: 0.1 dp: 70.4 ci:13 cj:290 5 CL/.XMV. Q7GO ?<br>
t: =C2=A096 f:-0.322 a: 1.2 dp: 66.3 ci:11 cj: 46 X4*H4Y*08IQ/13X ?<br>
t: 192 f: 0.303 pm:28.63 jm:286 q: -0.5 -1.2 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -<br>
t: 288 f: 0.312 pm:32.73 jm:286 q: =C2=A02.5 =C2=A02.1 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -<b=
r>
t: 384 f: 0.322 pm:45.78 jm:286 q: =C2=A02.0 =C2=A02.2 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -<b=
r>
t: 480 f: 0.342 pm:62.10 jm:286 q: -0.3 -1.5 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -<br>
t: 576 f: 0.342 pm:83.95 jm:286 q: =C2=A02.7 =C2=A01.8 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -<b=
r>
t: 672 f: 0.342 pm:86.72 jm:286 q: =C2=A03.4 =C2=A02.6 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -<b=
r>
t: 768 f: 0.361 pm:103.4 jm:287 q: =C2=A02.6 =C2=A01.9 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -<b=
r>
t: 864 f: 0.371 pm:116.4 jm:287 q: =C2=A03.2 =C2=A00.9 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -<b=
r>
t: 960 f: 0.371 pm:125.2 jm:287 q: =C2=A05.3 =C2=A03.5 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -<b=
r>
t:1056 f: 0.381 pm:148.5 jm:287 q: =C2=A04.4 =C2=A04.3 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -<b=
r>
t:1152 f: 0.381 pm:151.3 jm:287 q: =C2=A05.9 =C2=A05.7 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -<b=
r>
t:1248 f: 0.381 pm:152.7 jm:287 q: =C2=A06.2 =C2=A06.0 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -<b=
r>
<br>
 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A073 de pe=
ter, sq7mpj<br>
<br>
qth: Lodz /jo91rs/<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>----------------------=
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gspot.com/">http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.g3=
xbm.co.uk">http://www.g3xbm.co.uk</a><br>
G3XBM =C2=A0 =C2=A0GQRP 1678 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0ISWL G11088<br>

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Many thanx dear Jim for this new contact with you.
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>the same old repetive rubbish.
>g3kev


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Hi Andrey,

Well that is a new one for  me

Tnx- G ..

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>
> Hi Graham
>
> 2210   -25  1.2   0.503898  G0NBD IO83 23
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> my qth-loc: KO85sv
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> 73
> Andrey
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>



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Hello Lubos,

thank's report and info !

73 de Gus
  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 9:09 PM
  Subject: LF: BHZ


  Hello Gus, LF!
  I am reading your FB signal in JN88KS:

  1846 -19  1.2   1.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
  1852 -16  1.3   1.503926  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
  1858 -18  1.2   1.503926  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
  1902  -7  1.2   1.503926  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30

  Lubos, OK2BVG


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James if you were a competent CW operator you would think different, like 
you say you have limited knowledge.
WSPR beacons ARE a LAZY APPROACH no skills required and vy limited regarding 
propagation predictions.
I had two nice solid QSO'S two nights ago on CW/QRS to Russia and Romania. I 
did not need WSPR assistance. Any experienced CW operator can check a band 
and give an opinion about propagation in real time, then proceed to make a 
QSO.
G3KEV

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> Adding my thoughts to the debate, 500Khz and WSPR has rekindled my 
> interest
> in radio and I am learning lots in new areas.  As a G7 and not an expert 
> in
> CW, if CW was the only means of communication on the band then I would not
> have been as able to participate, experiment and learn as I have done with
> WSPR.  Additionally, the use of WSPR on other bands encouraged me on to 
> 500
> as I was definitely "weak signal" and now I am trying and enjoying CW QSOs
> too.
>
> The database and software allow the analysis and deduction of lots of info
> and data from the reports and their locations.
>
> For me it is not a case of CW vs WSPR (or indeed other data modes e.g. 
> WOLF)
> but far more having a go at them all in a challenging environment and 
> giving
> the old grey matter a bit of a "run out" and learning some new stuff into
> the bargain i.e. self training.
>
> As I have said in other posts, it whacks the pants off 20m SSB for sense 
> of
> achievement and enjoyment (as well as outright frustration!)
>
> I'm sure once we've all got WSPR sorted we'll be running WSJT in QSO mode
> and then we can exchange information as per the original poster's comment.
>
> Just my thoughts and YMMV
>
> With best regards
>
>
> Jim
>
>
> Dr. James Cowburn
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Peter Cleall
> Sent: 21 September 2009 14:18
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Cc: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: LF: defence of WSPR Signals
>
> I have always been interested in propagation.
> These WSPR signals are seen by some as repetitious rubbish.
>
> If you use , WSPR, the Internet database and your own receptions you soon
> realise that there are subtle variations in signal particularly QSB that 
> are
> different over day/ night paths, transitions at dawn and dusk and
> differences on N/S and E/W paths. Northern stations seem favoured for E/W
> propagation and distance between stations also has an effect.
>
> At last we have software and a process for examining in near real time the
> subtlety of these variations. We can see the signal reports from many
> distances and directions at the same time. I think we will learn a lot 
> more
> over the winter if we continue with these tests. I would like to think 
> that
> in the future we could have some coordinated test times which would get a
> greater number of receiving participants available at the same time.
>
> Personally I have been working on propagation with WSPR for several months
> on 30m. But  the recent activity by Andy, Jim and others has resulted in 
> me
> hunting out my 137kHz equipment that has not been used for a couple of 
> years
> and rebuilding a converter to hear my first signals on 500khz , since the
> commercial stations disappeared. I can see from the other reports on the
> database that I need to do more work on Aerials and i suspect that I still
> have a lot to learn about signals and equipment overload. Thee existence 
> of
> a few known reference signals is essential to improving ones equipment and
> knowledge. I t think this is all part of the spirit of amateur radio for 
> our
> self education in radio techniques which is a major justification for us 
> to
> have licenses.
>
> regards
> peterG8AFN
>
>
> Sep 21, 2009 10:52:38 AM, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org wrote:
>
> ===========================================
>
> WSPR signals last evening copied from G4JNT, G4WGT, G7NKS and SM6BHZ on
> 500kHz. Also very strong signal during the day from M0BMU on 137kHz.My
> report of your DFCW signal on 137 the other day, Jim, had the wrong
> frequency - sorry about that, added the difference 20Hz rather than
> subtracted from my RX offset - should have been 137.68 of course.Tend to
> agree with Mal's comments, I am having difficulty in seeing the point of
> some of this when there is little in the way of exchanged information
> between stations. There is a place for beacons, certainly. What concerns 
> me
> is that the casual listener tuning across the band probably has no idea
> there's anybody on.Vy 73,Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent, JO01MI.
>
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Hi Gus!

http://rw3adb.narod.ru/2009/25sep2009_SM6BHZ_SSB_CW/2.wav
CW 438
SSB not readable at moment

Roman

* Gus <begu@algonet.se> [Thu, 24 Sep 2009 20:18:39 +0200]:
> Dear LF,
>
> this evening i test an SSB Beacon, QRG 508 kHz LSB.
> Reports are welcome.
>
> 73 de Gus SM6BHZ
> www.sm6bhz.com
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Thank you, Henny.

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>Tu John, 200watt,ant.sloper 12meter and tophat14meter best 73s
>Henny pa3cpm.
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Roger Lapthorn wrote:
> Good folks, Any WSPR spot reports would fill me with total amazement
> and delight.
> 


I'll be watching from the far north!

John
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At 07:37 PM 9/10/2009, J.B. wrote:
>Hello LFers,
>
>What are most of you fellows setting your Nr of frames value at
>in the Wolf Config screen?  How important is this setting as to
>its effect on decodes?  Thanks in advance for any/all replies.

Mine is set to 32 - but Rx is locked to GPS for good long term
stability and I let the sound card warm up a long time then key in
the exact sampling rate.  If the overall drift is substantial
it doesn't pay to use a long integration time because it reduces
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expected stabilities at Tx, Rx, QSB periods, etc.

Bill



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Laurence, Gus, LF Group,

Thanks - found it in the WSPRnet database eventually... I was surprised I 
had not noticed BY3A at the time, but I think the database was filling up so 
fast at that time it just flew off the bottom of the page before I saw it! I 
did wonder why Gus was running 100% TX duty cycle.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU

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Jim - that was 2008z and the path was about equal time between fully dark in 
Sweden and Pre dawn here in E China and follows the geometry of the setting 
sun pretty well.

http://www.kl1x.com/sm6bhz.jpg  -



 The Path to Eu is getting more and more physically cluttered as large 
concrete and steel edifices grows in front of me daily.



Cheers









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,
> Yes, that is very good - Congratulations! Would be interested to know what
> time did that occur?

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Hi Jim,

    > Band plans aside, do all the various WD/WE stations have access
to the same
> basic frequency range?

    No, WD2XSH has 495-510;  WE2XGR has 505-515 and most of the rest
just 505-510kHz.


73 Warren K2ORS
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                WE2XEB/2
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Jim, LF

0126 -27  0.9   0.137090  0 M0BMU IO91 23
0130 -28  0.7   0.137091  0 M0BMU IO91 23
0138 -29  0.7   0.137090  0 M0BMU IO91 23
0234 -31  0.7   0.137090  0 M0BMU IO91 23
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0304 -30  0.6   0.137090  0 M0BMU IO91 23
0358 -30  0.7   0.137090  0 M0BMU IO91 23
0412 -28  0.6   0.137090  0 M0BMU IO91 23
0416 -31  0.6   0.137090  0 M0BMU IO91 23


Marginal signals, but signals nontheless!

John
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On 21 Sep 2009 at 13:17, Peter Cleall wrote:

> I have always been interested in propagation.
> These WSPR signals are seen by some as repetitious rubbish.

Well having spent a few days looking at WSPR I would tend to fit best 
in the 'repetitious rubbish' group.... WSPR is specifically designed 
for weak signal reception, and there is certainly a case of doing this 
to catch openings to our friends in W and BY land. But at a local level 
I don't think it serves much purpose - it is true that you can 
automatically monitor propagation and QSB rates, but a 2 minute 
sampling time is FAR too long to get any sensible figures from this. At 
my QTH every signal I have copied has been perfectly readable by ear, 
some by a very considerable margin. Once you have monitored for a few 
hours there is little more to be gained and it is a painfully slow mode 
to even consider as a QSO mode.

The USA amateurs are fortunate in having a considerably wider band than 
us. To have what is effective beacon transmissions there for long 
periods in our 3kHz is not the best use of our space.

I shall be very shortly re-configuring my vertical back to its Top Band 
mode for the winter season. If the future of 500kHz lies only in WSPR 
beaconing it is a sad life being an amateur and I have far more useful 
things to do on the other bands.

73 Dave G3YMC

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Jim,

First copy was around 0125Z, with absolutely no sign of the signal 
before that. That's later than some of the WSPR copy on other nights, 
but there's been quite variation. I'll keep it running...

John, W1TAG

James Moritz wrote:
> Dear LF Group,
> 
> I am now running a "standard" WOLF 10 mode beacon on 503.500kHz for the 
> next few hours. Any reports would be very welcome. Information and 
> software downloads can be found at 
> http://freenet-homepage.de/dl4yhf/wolf/index.html. The beacon may shut 
> down from time to time, because the signal seems to scramble my ADSL 
> modem...
> 
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
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WSPR at G7NKS now off for day.

Will be back on again tonight



With best regards
 
 
Jim
 
 
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Dear LF

The past two days have been quite bad for signals I have noticed.  Normally
I get lots of decodes from many stations and now I am only getting Gus.
Also there is a lot of noise on the waterfall trace too.

Still hoping to catch Roger

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On 16 Sep 2009 at 7:56, Roger Lapthorn wrote:

> Hi folks,
> 
> My WSPR beacon is closing shortly. Thanks for reports this morning from
> M0BMU, and from G3XVL and G6ALB yesterday. No others as yet.
> 
> Later today, and before my holiday away, I hope to try a couple of quick
> and simple changes to the antenna and ground that may result in a
> slightly greater antenna current. All being well, the beacon will be on
> again later this afternoon and overnight tonight. Any reports would be
> greatly appreciated so I can compare performance.
> 
> Further improvements will have to then wait until October.
> 
> 73s
> Roger G3XBM

I listened again last night Roger between 1920 and 2020z and not a 
trace of you on the waterfall. SM6BHZ and G7NKS were coming in as 
normal, though Gus's signal seemed well down on what it was the night 
before, mostly down about -10dB with the occasional peak to 0dB (Monday 
he was consistently +2 to +4dB). So maybe 'excellent conditions' to DL 
land but not so to Bracknell...

73 Dave G3YMC

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WE2XGR/2 will transmit in WOLF mode tonight from 2230 - 0330Z on 508.5 kHz. 
Local sunset is 2300Z. Reports are always appreciated.

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Was I the  only station to  rx this  cw beacon ... who was sending it=
 ?

G ..


From: Graham=20
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 8:37 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Subject: LF: CW beacon qrp on 5033 ?


Who is  running a qrp beacon on 503.3  ... very low in to  io83lk, som=
e thing about  5 ..? .. watts and a loop ae might of  copied  G0WSJ bu=
t  could be wrong .. signal is just showing at Birmingham ..  not at=
 G4WGT grabber  and  very low in the  noise at Wallasey ..  ..looks li=
ke it has  closed ?=20

Beacon text is very long ... would be better with simple vvvv  test =
 de gxxxx  gxxxx gxxxx   etc as qsb and static kept  knocking bits out=
 of the  text .... at least it  proved the  rx set up  works !

Graham

G0NBD




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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Was I the&nbsp; only station to&nbsp;=
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Who is&nbsp; running a qrp beacon on=
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... very low in to&nbsp; io83lk, some thing about&nbsp; 5 ..? .. watts=
 and a=20
loop ae might of&nbsp; copied&nbsp; G0WSJ but&nbsp; could be wrong ..=
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low in the&nbsp; noise at Wallasey ..&nbsp;&nbsp;..looks like it has&n=
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closed ? </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Beacon text is very long ... would be=
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c as qsb=20
and static kept&nbsp; knocking bits out of the&nbsp; text .... at leas=
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Jim,



yes,=C2=A0my capture=C2=A0range=C2=A0should be 136.9 to 137.1 kHz.=C2=A0Bu=
t as you say, mediterranean QRN seems overwhelming now (look at=C2=A0www.b=
litzortung.org=C2=A0), so decodes may be erratic at best. Monday morning=
 in daylight, you were consistent at about -23 dB SNR (2.5 kHz).



Kind regards,

Markus


PS: to Andy and Graham, wouldn't 23 dB=C2=A0less than=C2=A02.5 kHz=C2=A0be=
 12.5 Hz, not 100 Hz?



-----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung-----=20
Von: James Moritz <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Verschickt: Mi., 23. Sept. 2009, 22:52
Thema: LF: Re: WSPR 137.0 kHz



Dear Markus, Andrey, LF Group,=C2=A0
=C2=A0
I am now running the WSPR beacon again on 135.5kHz "dial frequency", 137.0=
90kHz RF out. Hopefully, this will be within range of Markus' receiver, an=
d also near enough to 137.1k for Andrey.=C2=A0
=C2=A0
If anyone else is going to be on 137k tonight, I can set the RX to monitor=
 their QRG - if not, I could put the RX on 500kHz again.=C2=A0
=C2=A0
Looking at Markus' grabber tonight, it is nearly a white-out (or rather gr=
een-out ;-)) due to the loud QRN, but we will see.=C2=A0
=C2=A0
Cheers, Jim Moritz=C2=A0
73 de M0BMU =C2=A0

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<div>Jim,</div>


<div>&nbsp;</div>


<div>yes,&nbsp;my capture&nbsp;range&nbsp;should be 136.9 to 137.1 kHz.&nb=
sp;But as you say, mediterranean QRN seems overwhelming now (look at&nbsp;=
<A href=3D"http://www.blitzortung.org">www.blitzortung.org</A>&nbsp;), so=
 decodes may be erratic at best. Monday morning in daylight, you were cons=
istent at about -23 dB SNR (2.5 kHz).</div>


<div>&nbsp;</div>


<div>Kind regards,</div>


<div>Markus</div>


<div><br>
PS: to Andy and Graham, wouldn't 23 dB&nbsp;less than&nbsp;2.5 kHz&nbsp;be=
 12.5 Hz, not 100 Hz?</div>


<div><br>
<br>
-----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung----- <br>
Von: James Moritz &lt;james.moritz@btopenworld.com&gt;<br>
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<br>
Verschickt: Mi., 23. Sept. 2009, 22:52<br>
Thema: LF: Re: WSPR 137.0 kHz<br>
<br>
</div>


<div id=3DAOLMsgPart_0_76ced485-615c-4097-993f-8e33022d159b style=3D"FONT-=
SIZE: 12px; MARGIN: 0px; COLOR: #000; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial,=
 Sans-Serif; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff">Dear Markus, Andrey, LF Group,&nbsp;<=
br>
&nbsp;<br>
I am now running the WSPR beacon again on 135.5kHz "dial frequency", 137.0=
90kHz RF out. Hopefully, this will be within range of Markus' receiver, an=
d also near enough to 137.1k for Andrey.&nbsp;<br>
&nbsp;<br>
If anyone else is going to be on 137k tonight, I can set the RX to monitor=
 their QRG - if not, I could put the RX on 500kHz again.&nbsp;<br>
&nbsp;<br>
Looking at Markus' grabber tonight, it is nearly a white-out (or rather gr=
een-out ;-)) due to the loud QRN, but we will see.&nbsp;<br>
&nbsp;<br>
Cheers, Jim Moritz&nbsp;<br>
73 de M0B
MU &nbsp;<br>
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Sorry John I was off last evenings.
 I don't know how close you are to F1AFJ but I make it into
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> Warren,
>
> Static is still very high here. =A0Nothing detected from you on Sunday=
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> 73
> John F5VLF
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> *********** REPLY SEPARATOR =A0***********
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> On 25/09/2009 at 16:40 Warren Ziegler wrote:
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>>John,
>>
>> =A0 XGJ =A0is on 137.7798 here but sunset is not until 22:30 UTC.
>>
>>--
>>73 Warren K2ORS
>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0WD2XGJ
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>>
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e:
>>> At 1928z.
>>>
>>> F5VLF
>>>
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Trong signal Dave G3YXM i received your audio
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Hi Gary, LF!
TNX!
Hope to look that signal now.
How many EIRP?

Roman


* Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk> [Tue, 15 Sep 2009 10:22:58 +0100]:
> Hi Roman, LF,
>
> The signal on 503.700 kHz you can see on my grabber is the propagation
> beacon being run by Andy G4JNT, transmissions are at15 minute
> intervals at 0004, 0019, 0034 & 0049 minutes of each hour. The beacon
> now runs 24/7.
>
> It has a similar function & features to the beacons running on the
> 5MHz band (GB3RAL, GB3WES & GB3ORK).
>
> For a full description of the beacon on 503.700 kHz please have a look
> at the UK500KHZ group web site at :-
>
> 
http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/multi-function-beacon-by-andy-g4jnt
>
> Regards es 73
>
> Gary - G4WGT.
>
>
>
> 2009/9/15 Roman RW3ADB <rw3adb@rambler.ru>:
> >
> > Hi Gary, LF!
> >
> > Tell me pse, what is a signal I can see some time into G4WGT 
grabber?
> >
> > --
> > Roman RW3ADB.
> >
>




--
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What has that got to do with LF ?

Andy
www.g4jnt.com

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2009/9/2 Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>

> You just could not make it up !
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqsT4xnKZPg
>
> G .
>
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> Subject: Re: LF: wspr
>
>
>> On 01/09/2009 at 20:17 mal hamilton wrote:
>>
>> Roger I am stating the facts, someone else mentioned seeing the signals
>>> on the waterfall but they were not decoding. I could easlily have made a
>>> qso on cw given the strength of signals whereas WSPR was not decoding, so
>>> the exercise is pointless.
>>>
>>
>> That was me.  I wasn't decoding because I don't yet have a decoder.  Had I
>> had one, and given the snr I observed, I would have expected 100% copy. On
>> the few occasions I have heard Mal, his snr has not been anything like as
>> good as WSPR.
>>
>> John F5VLF
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>> No virus found in this incoming message.
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<div>What has that got to do with LF ?</div>
<div><br clear=3D"all">Andy<br><a href=3D"http://www.g4jnt.com">www.g4jnt.=
com</a><br><br>this email has been scanned for political correctness by th=
e nanny state<br><br><br></div>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/9/2 Graham <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk">g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk</a>&gt;</span>=
<br>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8e=
x; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">You just could not make it up=
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=3D"_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DgqsT4xnKZPg</a><br>
<br>G .<br><br>--------------------------------------------------<br>From:=
 &quot;John RABSON&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:john.rabson@numeo.fr" targe=
t=3D"_blank">john.rabson@numeo.fr</a>&gt;<br>Sent: Tuesday, September 01,=
 2009 9:47 PM<br>
To: &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" target=3D"_blank">=
rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a>&gt;<br>Subject: Re: LF: wspr<br><br>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8e=
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<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8e=
x; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">Roger I am stating the facts,=
 someone else mentioned seeing the signals<br>on the waterfall but they we=
re not decoding. I could easlily have made a<br>
qso on cw given the strength of signals whereas WSPR was not decoding, so<=
br>the exercise is pointless.<br></blockquote><br>That was me. =A0I wasn&#=
39;t decoding because I don&#39;t yet have a decoder. =A0Had I had one, an=
d given the snr I observed, I would have expected 100% copy. On the few oc=
casions I have heard Mal, his snr has not been anything like as good as WS=
PR.<br>
<br>John F5VLF<br><br><br><br><br></blockquote><br><br><br>
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Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.75/2341 - Release Date: 09/02/09=
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Hi Gerhard,

I think this must have been Heinz, DJ6GT in Langelsheim, who is regula=
rly calling and testing in QRSS mode. As far as I know, he has a calls=
ign@darc.de address.

73 de Markus, DF6NM


----- Original Message -----=20
From: "Gerhard Hickl" <gerhard.hickl@aon.at>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 6:54 PM
Subject: LF: DJ9GT on 137700 20db SNR


Hello group!

Just received a CQ from DJ9GT on 137700 with 15-20db over noise in JN8=
8HL.

I couldn't find a personal mail-address, so hopefully he's member of=
 the list.

I'm a LF-beginner and this is actually the first signal that I receive=
d with my Marconi-antenna. 90m of wire about 12m high and a 2,2mH load=
ing coil.

RX is Kenwood TS440S with preamp.

I have got a lot of support and tips from Ossi, OE5ODL (Thank you) and=
 I hope to have a TX ready in early December.=20

Cheers

Gerhard Hickl
OE3GHB

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi Gerhard,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I think this must have been Heinz, DJ=
6GT in=20
Langelsheim, who is regularly calling and testing in QRSS mode. As far=
 as I=20
know, he has a <A href=3D"mailto:callsign@darc.de">callsign@darc.de</A=
>=20
address.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73 de Markus, DF6NM</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>----- Original Message ----- </FONT>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>From: "Gerhard Hickl" &lt;</FONT><A=
   href=3D"mailto:gerhard.hickl@aon.at"><FONT face=3DArial   size=3D2>=
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p@blacksheep.org</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial   size=3D2>&gt;</FONT></=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 6:5=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Subject: LF: DJ9GT on 137700 20db=20
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Hi Graham

2210   -25  1.2   0.503898  G0NBD IO83 23

my qth-loc: KO85sv

73
Andrey


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Dear Jay, John, LF Group

Having arrived home, I see I have been copying WE2XGR/2 since about 
midnight. I started up another instance of WOLF GUI upon seeing that 
WE2XGR/3 was also on, and have just started to get copy at about 0220utc.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU



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* James Moritz <james.moritz@btopenworld.com> [Sun, 6 Sep 2009 21:11:44 
+0100]:
> ...I should have said that it is on 503.975kHz, 502.4k "dial 
frequency"

The other fragment of the similar signal rx'd onto 504.950:
http://rw3adb.narod.ru/2009/7sep2009_503.5kHz/503.5W_3_00010.jpg

Roman

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "James Moritz" <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 9:05 PM
> Subject: LF: WSPR beacon
>
>
> > Dear LF Group,
> >
> > The M0BMU WSPR beacon is running again - I have jacked up the 
antenna
> to
> > increase the ERP a bit. G4WGT and G7NKS are also active - any 
reports
> > would be very welcome.
> >
> > Cheers, Jim Moritz
> > 73 de M0BMU
> >
>
>




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Dear Andy, LF Group,

I think adding WSPR transmissions would be a useful extension of your 
current beacon - it would give it a weak-signal capability that would extend 
the range. Amongst others, one of the things that is interesting about the 
current WSPR tests is the way the signal level at fairly long distances 
drops away rapidly when it gets light, but does not dissapear entirely - 
perhaps due to ground wave, or some sort of attenuated skywave. but it is 
awkward for most stations to run a beacon all day to monitor this due to the 
"no unattended operation" stipulation of the licence.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU 



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Andy,

Yes that would be a good  idea as it  would increase the  number of =
 monitor stations , and as your system is  software defined you  could=
 simply  qso  inside the  '502.4' wspr window ... as the  wspr  system=
 perhaps more 'sensitive' you  could reduce power by say  10dB over th=
e  120 second  tx period to save 'your' system ?

I think there still may be an  issue with the wspr  frequency interims=
 of operations outside Europe on higher channels which is a pity as it=
 reduces the  opportunities to monitor , with the 504  carrier present=
ing  quite a strong signal, it's  perhaps not  desirable to  have it=
 in the wspr pass band as it may (is) cause false decodes , especially=
 when 'modulation' is  present, =20

Thank you  for  running the  beacon over the  year and Gary  for  sett=
ing up a perm ant monitoring station with the  results displayed on hi=
s web page, the  saved text data files will be available shortly,   li=
nked to the  beacon page on the uk500khz group and may be  plotted on=
 line.=20
  =20


From: Andy Talbot=20
Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 1:58 PM
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Subject: LF: 'JNT Beacon off


>From tomorrow (Monday 2009/09/07) my beacon on 503.7kHz will be off fo=
r a few days pending various odd jobs around here.   Hopefully it shou=
ld be back again next weekend.

As we approach the winter months, would it be worth modifying to add=
 a WSPR transmission as well?   I don't want to stop the 15 minute tim=
ed signal on 503.7 for auto logging, but it wouldn't be too difficult=
 to add a WSPR transmission between those, on a different frequency so=
mewhere in the 503.8 to 504.0 range.

Andy
www.g4jnt.com

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Thanks for the screen shots Jim.

I continue to be simply amazed that my tiny signal is being decoded by  
ANYONE at all. It certainly proves what a wonderful resource WSPR is for  
experimenting with QRP, antennas, rigs etc. on any band, but especially on  
136 and 500kHz.

73s
Roger G3XBM



On 17 Sep 2009 20:29, James Moritz <james.moritz@btopenworld.com> wrote:
> Dear Dave, Roger, LF Group,



> I have attached a screen shot of WSPR signals from SM6BHZ and G3XBM  
> received just now, using Spectrum Lab set up for QRSS3 reception. The  
> corresponding WSPR spots were:



> 1836 -12 0.0 0.503925 0 SM6BHZ JO57 33

> 1840 -27 2.9 0.503890 0 G3XBM JO02 0



> SM6BHZ was an audible signal which would have been weak but copy-able CW  
> - I expect Gus's signal will pick up by 10dB or so as the night  
> progresses. G3XBM is never audible at all - the QRN is building rapidly  
> now, but during the day I get 100% copy at about -25 or -26dB; when noise  
> levels build up I sometimes get correct copy at -30dB or so. So that's  
> what it looks like when it is working ;-)



> It makes no detectable difference whether I use the SSB filter or 250Hz  
> CW filter on the IC718 - even the local signals on 500k are not really  
> strong enough to overload the audio, provided the RF gain is backed well  
> off so that the S meter reads about s7 or 8. You do need the narrow  
> filter on 136k of course.



> Cheers, Jim Moritz

> 73 de M0BMU


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Thanks for the screen shots Jim. <br /><br />I continue to be simply amaze=
d that my tiny signal is being decoded by ANYONE at all.  It certainly pro=
ves what a wonderful resource WSPR is for experimenting with QRP, antennas=
, rigs etc. on any band, but especially on 136 and 500kHz. <br /><br />73s=
<br />Roger   G3XBM<br /><br /><br /><br />On 17 Sep 2009 20:29, James Mor=
itz &lt;james.moritz@btopenworld.com&gt; wrote:<br />&gt; Dear Dave, Roger=
, LF Group,<br />&gt; <br />&gt; <br />&gt; <br />&gt; I have attached a=
 screen shot of WSPR signals from SM6BHZ and G3XBM received just now, usin=
g Spectrum Lab set up for QRSS3 reception. The corresponding WSPR spots we=
re:<br />&gt; <br />&gt; <br />&gt; <br />&gt; 1836 -12 =A00.0 =A0 0.50392=
5 =A00 SM6BHZ JO57 33<br />&gt; <br />&gt; 1840 -27 =A02.9 =A0 0.503890 =
=A00 G3XBM JO02 0<br />&gt; <br />&gt; <br />&gt; <br />&gt; SM6BHZ was an=
 audible signal which would have been weak but copy-able CW - I expect Gus=
&#39;s signal will pick up by 10dB or so as the night progresses. G3XBM is=
 never audible at all - the QRN is building rapidly now, but during the da=
y I get 100% copy at about -25 or -26dB; when noise levels build up I some=
times get correct copy at -30dB or so. So that&#39;s what it looks like wh=
en it is working ;-)<br />&gt; <br />&gt; <br />&gt; <br />&gt; It makes=
 no detectable difference whether I use the SSB filter or 250Hz CW filter=
 on the IC718 - even the local signals on 500k are not really strong enoug=
h to overload the audio, provided the RF gain is backed well off so that=
 the S meter reads about s7 or 8. You do need the narrow filter on 136k of=
 course.<br />&gt; <br />&gt; <br />&gt; <br />&gt; Cheers, Jim Moritz<br=
 />&gt; <br />&gt; 73 de M0BMU<br />&gt;

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The G4JNT  Beacon on 503.700kHz is back on.   Every 15 minutes at the t+4
minute epoch.

I'll have to think how to include a WSPR waveform as well as the original
signal type.   It will almost certainly  be too much for a single 16F628 PIC
to be able to include both.   Can probably do it if I remove the PSK31
component, but there have been several reports / decodes of that, so it
ought to remain.

Easiest solution may be to use two PIC / DDS drivers, one handiing each
signal type and work out an arbitration scheme for when they both want to Tx
at the same time.


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<div>The G4JNT=A0 Beacon on 503.700kHz is back on.=A0=A0 Every 15 minutes=
 at the t+4 minute epoch.</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>I&#39;ll have to think how to include a WSPR waveform as well as the=
 original signal type.=A0=A0 It=A0will almost certainly =A0be too much for=
 a single 16F628 PIC to be able to include both.=A0=A0 Can probably do it=
 if I remove the PSK31 component, but there have been several reports / de=
codes of that, so it ought to remain.</div>

<div>=A0</div>
<div>Easiest solution may be to use two PIC / DDS=A0drivers, one handiing=
 each signal type and work out an arbitration scheme for when they both wa=
nt to Tx at the same time.</div>
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Hi Jim,
Downloaded WOLF yesterday afternoon. Tuned to 503.5 CW yesterday eveni=
ng, put WOLF into RX mode, didn't input any settings and there you wer=
e! I was amazed at how far I could off tune and decoding still continu=
ed. Mind you, to me you are a relative local. Like John I am going to=
 have to read up and learn what all the figures mean.
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Downloaded WOLF yesterday afternoon.=
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Dear Jim (et al),

Thanks for this interesting analysis. It does indeed suggest *plenty* of
scope for improvement in the coming months.

As I've said several times in the last week, I'm gobsmacked that anyone,
apart from G6ALB 3kms away, is able to hear me with the set-up I have. The
500kHz WSPR beacon will run one more time overnight tonight  then it will be
off for 2-3 weeks.

My wife is wanting her dressing table back as the tiny ATU is sitting on it
and tuning is very sharp; every time she puts anything down I have to check
the antenna current is peaked :-))

You know I'm like a kid: I get *so* excited looking at the spots and
thinking about gradually making improvements and seeing my coverage extend
on 500kHz.

My wife just humours me!

73s
Roger G3XBM


2009/9/19 James Moritz <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>

> Dear Roger, LF Group,
>
> It is interesting to make an estimate of what G3XBM's ERP might be...
>
> The noise level at M0BMU during relatively quiet daytime conditions I
> estimate to be of the order of 3uV/m in the 2.5kHz WSPR reference bandwidth.
> The reported SNR gets up to about -25dB, making the signal level from G3XBM
> about 0.18uV/m.
>
> ERP = (Ed)^2 / 49; with E = 0.18 x 10e-6, d = 69000m , ERP is about 3uW
> with only "geometric spreading" propagation losses. But there is some
> additional reduction in field strength due to ground wave propagation
> losses, perhaps 3dB with "good" ground, so the ERP would then become about
> 6uW. Diffraction losses due to the curvature of the earth are negligible at
> this distance.
>
> Obviously, this could be +/- several dB due to various uncertainties, but
> should be of the right order of magnitude. Plenty of potential for
> improvement then!
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
>


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Dear Jim (et al),<br><br>Thanks for this interesting analysis. It does ind=
eed suggest <u>plenty</u> of scope for improvement in the coming months.=
 <br><br>As I&#39;ve said several times in the last week, I&#39;m gobsmack=
ed that anyone, apart from G6ALB 3kms away, is able to hear me with the se=
t-up I have. The 500kHz WSPR beacon will run one more time overnight tonig=
ht=A0 then it will be off for 2-3 weeks.=A0 <br>
<br>My wife is wanting her dressing table back as the tiny ATU is sitting
on it and tuning is very sharp; every time she puts anything down I have
to check the antenna current is peaked :-))<br><br>
You know I&#39;m like a kid: I get <i>so</i> excited looking at the spots=
 and thinking about gradually making improvements and seeing my coverage=
 extend on 500kHz. <br><br>My wife just humours me!<br><br>73s<br>Roger G3=
XBM<br>
<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/9/19 James Moritz <span dir=3D"ltr=
">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:james.moritz@btopenworld.com">james.moritz@btopenw=
orld.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"bord=
er-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-=
left: 1ex;">
Dear Roger, LF Group,<br>
<br>
It is interesting to make an estimate of what G3XBM&#39;s ERP might be...<=
br>
<br>
The noise level at M0BMU during relatively quiet daytime conditions I esti=
mate to be of the order of 3uV/m in the 2.5kHz WSPR reference bandwidth.=
 The reported SNR gets up to about -25dB, making the signal level from G3X=
BM about 0.18uV/m.<br>

<br>
ERP =3D (Ed)^2 / 49; with E =3D 0.18 x 10e-6, d =3D 69000m , ERP is about=
 3uW with only &quot;geometric spreading&quot; propagation losses. But the=
re is some additional reduction in field strength due to ground wave propa=
gation losses, perhaps 3dB with &quot;good&quot; ground, so the ERP would=
 then become about 6uW. Diffraction losses due to the curvature of the ear=
th are negligible at this distance.<br>

<br>
Obviously, this could be +/- several dB due to various uncertainties, but=
 should be of the right order of magnitude. Plenty of potential for improv=
ement then!<br>
<br>
Cheers, Jim Moritz<br>
73 de M0BMU <br>
<br>
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Fish in a barrel!!


With best regards
 
 
Jim
 
 
Dr. James Cowburn
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Broom
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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of John P-G
Sent: 11 September 2009 23:01
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: G7NKS on WSPR with new ANT system

James Cowburn wrote:
> Hi John
> 
> Let me know if you rx the new and improved G7NKS!
> 

James, LF,


Almost too easy now!

090911 2024    -24  1.1   0.503943  G7NKS IO92 23
090911 2032    -24  1.2   0.503942  G7NKS IO92 23
090911 2054    -27  0.9   0.503942  G7NKS IO92 23
090911 2114    -26  1.2   0.503942  G7NKS IO92 23
090911 2130    -24  1.5   0.503942  G7NKS IO92 23
090911 2150    -18  1.5   0.503942  G7NKS IO92 23


Will stay on 502.4 WSPR overnight to compare with previous fleeting 
reception of you on previous occasions.

It's looking good so far though, as I've never had any decodes so early 
before.

Cheers,

John



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* Alberto di Bene <dibene@usa.net> [Wed, 23 Sep 2009 00:30:36 +0200]:
> Good evening Steve,
>
>     well, well, you make me blush... there are a lot of other very 
good
> programs
> capable of displaying QRSS. Maybe Argo has the merit of having been 
the
> first,
> so it got more widespread.

Not it all, Alberto! I'm use ARGO and SPL at moment usually.
Some time I copy pale and readable trace in ARGO and nothing into SPL 
wide window.
ARGO more good with her small-band by the S/N then other. And more 
sensitive too.
ARGO is not out of any other errors of course.

Roman

> And thanks for the report of 136kHz activity
> in VK,
> though I don't think I have any hope to be able to receive one of 
those
> stations.
>
> If you are interested in SDR, keep an eye on my soft_radio Yahoo list,
> maybe
> in Q1 next year there will be an announcement about a new program.
>
> All the best
>
> 73  Alberto  I2PHD
> ---------------------------------------
>
> VK2ZTO wrote:
> > G'day Alberto,
> >
> > Nice to hear from you again too.
> >
> > As you may know, we here in VK have been granted access to 136kHz 
this
> year,
> > albeit by way of a sort of NOV.    Almost all of the active VK LF
> stations
> > are using your excellent QRSS viewer ARGO.   So, once again, thank 
you
> for
> > providing this.
> >
> > LF reception highlights for me using ARGO have been the signals from
> ZL
> > (ZL3JE) on 137.900kHz, various intra-VK transmissions, daytime
> reception of
> > a ZL NDB carrier using 120s mode on 214kHz (distance 2000km) and,
> recently,
> > reception of Mori's (JH1GVY) QRSS120 beacon on 137777.4Hz from JA
> (8000km)
> > from his balloon antenna.    Despite the usual background noise from
> the
> > jaded "pooh-poohers" and "dunbefores" I derive a lot of enjoyment 
out
> of
> > these activities.
> >
> > The enjoyment derived from these would not be possible without your
> > software.
> >
> > Along with your other software you have made a positive contribution
> to our
> > hobby and (I apologise for using an 'F' word) raised the level of 
FUN
> for a
> > lot of operators.
> >
> > Sorry to embarass you with this paean, but to not acknowledge such
> > contributions would be small-minded in the extreme.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > 73 Steve
> >
> >
> >
> > .
> >
>
>




--
Roman RW3ADB.


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James
Your signal daytime good audio copy plus visual and decoding, at dusk=
 it dropped 10db and was not decoding but visible and good for QRS 3.
Instead of improving after dark it has got worse and the long haul noi=
se is not helping. If u were using QRS 3 we could work and you must be=
 hearing me just got a report from EU.
MAL

  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 7:55 PM
  Subject: LF: RE: G7NKS WSPR


  Just trying Mal on CW

  =20

  Will be back on WSPR in a bit

  =20

  With best regards

  =20

  =20

  Jim

  =20

  =20

  Dr. James Cowburn

  26 Birch Close

  Broom

  Biggleswade

  Beds

  SG18 9NR

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  From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group=
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  Sent: 16 September 2009 19:05
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
  Subject: LF: G7NKS WSPR

  =20

  WSPR record for G7NKS. Looking for others!

  =20

  1658  -8  0.8   0.503942 -1 G7NKS IO92 23

  1720  -4  0.7   0.503944 -1 G7NKS IO92 23

  1732  -5  0.9   0.503942 -1 G7NKS IO92 23
  1740  -4  0.9   0.503942  1 G7NKS IO92 23

  1749  -7  1.6   0.503948 -1 G7NKS IO92 23

  =20

  73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor, S.E. England

  =20

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    From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_gro=
up@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Roger Lapthorn
    Sent: 16 September 2009 15:48
    To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
    Subject: LF: G3XBM 500kHz WSPR beacon back on - any stronger?

    Good Folks,

    Have made some quick changes to the 500kHz antenna and ground syst=
em (now using my 10m halo and feed now as a short vertical with top ca=
pacity loading and using the 15m long-wire as a radial along with the=
 central heating ground) and am putting the WSPR beacon back on shortl=
y. Interested to know if the changes have made much difference. Antenn=
a current is higher so I hope it will radiate a some more. Reports and=
 screenshots gratefully received.

    On RX, G7NKS is about the same S/N as this morning before the chan=
ges. Not quite sure what this is telling me.

    BTW, I know I drift upwards about 50Hz for about 20 mins as the tr=
ansverter xtal oscillator settles.

    73s
    Roger G3XBM

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    http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/
    http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
    G3XBM    GQRP 1678      ISWL G11088



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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>James</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Your signal daytime good audio copy=
 plus visual and=20
decoding, at dusk it dropped 10db and was not decoding but visible and=
 good for=20
QRS 3.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Instead of improving after dark it ha=
s got worse=20
and the long haul noise is not helping. If u were using QRS 3 we could=
 work and=20
you must be hearing me just got a report from EU.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>MAL</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@=
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f_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, September 16=
, 2009 7:55=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: RE: G7NKS WSPR</=
DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV class=3DSection1>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=
     style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Just=
 trying Mal on=20
  CW<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=
     style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p>&=
nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=
     style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Will=
 be back on WSPR=20
  in a bit<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=
     style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p>&=
nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=
     style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">With=
 best=20
  regards</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dnavy><SPAN     style=3D"COLOR: na=
vy"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3Dnavy siz=
e=3D3><SPAN     style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy">&nbsp;<o:p></o:=
p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3Dnavy siz=
e=3D3><SPAN     style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy">&nbsp;<o:p></o:=
p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><STRONG><B><FONT face=3D"Freestyle Script" colo=
r=3Dnavy     size=3D6><SPAN     style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 24pt; COLOR: navy;=
 FONT-FAMILY: 'Freestyle Script'">Jim</SPAN></FONT></B></STRONG><FONT=
     color=3Dnavy><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: navy"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT=
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     style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Dr. Ja=
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     style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">26 Bir=
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swade</SPAN></FONT><FONT     color=3Dnavy><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: navy">=
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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al">T +44 (0) 1767=20
  600522</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dnavy><SPAN lang=3DDE     style=3D"=
COLOR: navy"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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 lang=3DDE     style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Ari=
al">M+44 (0) 7967=20
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COLOR: navy"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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:james.cowburn@virgin.net"><SPAN     lang=3DDE>james.cowburn@virgin.ne=
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e=3D3><SPAN     style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy">&nbsp;</SPAN></=
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 12pt">
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  </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><B><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN     style=
=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SP=
AN></FONT></B><FONT     face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZ=
E: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">=20
  owner-<st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</st1:=
PersonName>=20
  [mailto:owner-<st1:PersonName     w:st=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blackshe=
ep.org</st1:PersonName>] <B><SPAN     style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On=
 Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Dave G3WCB<BR><B><SPAN     style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT:=
 bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> 16 September 2009 19:05<BR><B><SPAN     style=
=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> <st1:PersonName     w:st=3D"on">=
rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</st1:PersonName><BR><B><SPAN     style=3D=
"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> LF: G7NKS=20
  WSPR</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=
     style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblue size=3D2><SPAN=
     style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">WSPR=
 record for=20
  G7NKS. Looking for others!</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=
     style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DI=
V>
  <DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblue size=3D2><SPAN=
     style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">1658&n=
bsp; -8&nbsp;=20
  0.8&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503942 -1 G7NKS IO92 23</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></=
P></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblue size=3D2><SPAN=
     style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">1720&n=
bsp; -4&nbsp;=20
  0.7&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503944 -1 G7NKS IO92 23</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></=
P></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblue size=3D2><SPAN=
     style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">1732&n=
bsp; -5&nbsp;=20
  0.9&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503942 -1 G7NKS IO92 23<BR>1740&nbsp; -4&nbsp;=20
  0.9&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503942&nbsp; 1 G7NKS IO92=20
  23</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblue size=3D2><SPAN=
     style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">1749&n=
bsp; -7&nbsp;=20
  1.6&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503948 -1 G7NKS IO92 23</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></=
P></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=
     style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DI=
V>
  <DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblue size=3D2><SPAN=
     style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">73, Da=
ve G3WCB IO91RM=20
  nr <st1:City w:st=3D"on">Windsor</st1:City>, S.E. <st1:country-regio=
n     w:st=3D"on"><st1:place     w:st=3D"on">England</st1:place></st1:=
country-region></SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=
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V>
  <BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt">
    <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><FONT face=3DTa=
homa       size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahom=
a">-----Original=20
    Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN><=
/B>=20
    owner-<st1:PersonName       w:st=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.o=
rg</st1:PersonName>=20
    [mailto:owner-<st1:PersonName       w:st=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blac=
ksheep.org</st1:PersonName>]<B><SPAN       style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold"=
>On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Roger Lapthorn<BR><B><SPAN       style=3D"FON=
T-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> 16 September 2009=20
    15:48<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> <st1:=
PersonName       w:st=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</st1:PersonN=
ame><BR><B><SPAN       style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B>=
 LF: G3XBM 500kHz WSPR beacon=20
    back on - any stronger?</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
    <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=
       style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Good Folks,<BR><BR>Have made some qui=
ck changes to=20
    the 500kHz antenna and ground system (now using my 10m halo and fe=
ed now as=20
    a short vertical with top capacity loading and using the 15m long-=
wire as a=20
    radial along with the central heating ground) and am putting the=
 WSPR beacon=20
    back on shortly. Interested to know if the changes have made much=
=20
    difference. Antenna current is higher so I hope it will radiate a=
 some more.=20
    Reports and screenshots gratefully received.<BR><BR>On RX, G7NKS=
 is about=20
    the same S/N as this morning before the changes. Not quite sure wh=
at this is=20
    telling me.<BR><BR>BTW, I know I drift upwards about 50Hz for abou=
t 20 mins=20
    as the transverter xtal oscillator settles.<BR><BR>73s<BR>Roger G3=
XBM<BR       clear=3Dall><BR>-----------------------------------------=
--------------------<BR><A       href=3D"http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com=
/">http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/</A><BR><A       href=3D"http://www.g=
3xbm.co.uk">http://www.g3xbm.co.uk</A><BR>G3XBM &nbsp;=20
    &nbsp;GQRP 1678 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;ISWL=20
  G11088<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>
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Hi LF group
The F8boj beacon is op 137740hz
good afternoon
your servant
Claude F8boj Jn16wa

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Hello Jim,

Big signal with QSB peaking 40 dB above the noise.


2009-09-08 22:41:39 >WOLF10  -r 11025.000 -f 700 -t 2 -d 10 -w 0.0000
t:  24 f:-1.382 a: 0.7 dp:137.8 ci: 8 cj:383 56PM9AIFATWYJ2C ?
t:  48 f:-1.383 a: 0.8 dp:134.2 ci: 4 cj: 29 CSIOD.78XL9T ZU ?
t:  96 f:-1.368 a:-0.6 dp:148.8 ci: 4 cj: 29 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t: 192 f:-1.367 pm:1426972 jm:902 q: 14.0 14.2 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t: 288 f:-1.367 pm:2456988 jm:902 q: 17.1 17.5 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
22:46:46 >WOLF RESTARTED
t:  24 f:-1.370 a:-0.2 dp:163.3 ci: 0 cj:  0 W5SH2GN8UFT*GR  ?
t:  48 f:-1.368 a:-0.2 dp:160.9 ci:10 cj:120 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t:  96 f:-1.369 a:-0.2 dp:156.8 ci:10 cj:120 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -
t: 192 f:-1.367 pm:455476 jm:720 q:  9.5  9.3 M0BMU IO91VR 2W -


73,

Michel / f5wk


> Dear LF Group,

> I am now running a "standard" WOLF 10 mode beacon on 503.500kHz for the=
 next
> few hours. Any reports would be very welcome. Information and software=
=20
> downloads can be found at
> http://freenet-homepage.de/dl4yhf/wolf/index.html.=20
> The beacon may shut down from time to time, because the signal seems to=
=20
> scramble my ADSL modem...

> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU=20





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Dear Andy,

Looking, well, nominal here...


1206  -1  1.6   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
1210  -1  1.2   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
1214  -1  0.2   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
1222  -1  0.2   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
1226  -1  0.2   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
1228  -1  0.1   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23

... spots are being uploaded to WSPRnet.org database.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU


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Hi Roman, Dear LF
Yesterday we testing LF transmiter.
We will be 2-way QRV long wave special event HF70W in next weekend night
(19/20 September).
--
Vy 73!
Marcin SQ2BXI



> HI LF!
>
> Special event http://www.qrz.com/db/HF70W
> on 137.778.0 in Moscow now!
> Better onto RN3AGC grabber: http://www.rn3agc.msk.ru/grabber1.shtml
> My grabber started, but is not copy at moment:
> http://qrss.nm.ru/grabber.html
>
> Visible onto DF6NM and F1AFJ grabbers too.
>
> --
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>



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WSPR is a minority interest in producing repetive rubbish on 500 Kcs.=
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160 metres has similar characteristics to 500 so pse go there with wsp=
r where the bandwidth approx 200 Kcs wide.
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On 12 Sep 2009 at 9:09, John Andrews wrote:

> As you point out, the WSPR program does not seem to have a way to 
> compensate for far-off actual sampling rates. But WSPR's author, K1JT,
> has a jack-of-all-trades program called WSJT that DOES allow for
> calibration. WSPR is one of a number of modes offered in WSJT. So, that
> might be a way out for those stuck with on-board audio setups.

I had a quick play with WSJT7. But it looks as if WSPR was an add on to 
the original program, its implementation is a bit basic and the GUI 
totally different from the separate WSPR program.

1. The bands seem to be pre-programmed in, you select just by the band 
and there seems to be no means of setting a custom frequency. 500kHz 
(and 60m) are noticeably absent, there is no 'other'.
2. The displayed decodes are a different format and it only tells you 
the call decoded, dB strength and a DF figure in Hz from presumably 
what it considers the centre of the WSPR spectrum - not the actual 
frequency, and the time of the decode is not given.
3. There is no band map, the upper right hand corner is taken up with a 
moon data window which may be of interest to moon bounce people.... and 
this cannot be turned off.
4. There is a seperate waterfall display in a seperate window, which 
may be useful to some.
5. Although it obviously decodes in the same 2 minute periods it does 
not show this by displaying 'waiting to start' at any time, it shows 
'receiving' continuously. I also failed to work out how to set any TX 
periods, or how to be sure I had turned them off.
6. There seems no option to upload spots.
7. And if you select any other soundcard input than the default 0 one 
it crashes at startup. From a Google this is a well known problem...
8. Supplied documentation is patchy. The main manual does not even 
mention WSPR mode and the additional quick guide for WSPR talks a lot 
about theory but virtally nil about actually using it.

I didn't get round to doing any sound card calibration, it obvously can 
be done but even that looked to be a bit fiddly. I hope K1JT does add a 
calibration routine to WSPR to address this issue.

73 Dave G3YMC

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Zdravstvuj tovarishch Roman! and LF group.
Spasibo za tvoi raport!
Ja budu peredovatj WSPR takzhe segodnja vecherom.
Kazhetsja chto moi signali horosho dohodjat do tjebja.
73 de Gus SM6BHZ

www.sm6bhz.com


----- Original Message ----- 
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Subject: LF: SM6BHZ 8-sep-2009


> 
> Hi Gus, LF!
> 
> 090908 0052  17 -14  0.9   0.503950  SM6BHZ JO57 30          0     1 
> 0
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> 
> 
> --
> Roman RW3ADB.
>




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John,

Well, I'd better stick to 33%  as the 2N3904/2N3906 transistors are not
really PA devices and have no heatsinks. Truly I would be *utterly* amazed
if my uW signals reached you, but I am beginning to think that anything is
now possible.

73s
Roger  G3XBM



2009/9/13 John P-G <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk>

> Roger,
>
> One more thing - since you aren't set up for transceive operation and your
> TX power is fairly low would it be possible for you to operate in continuous
> TX mode. Then we might spot more easily any fleeting openings in
> propagation. It would be a shame to miss a short enhancement if it were to
> occur during one of your non-transmit periods.
>
> Just a thought
>
> John
>
>
>


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John,<br><br>Well, I&#39;d better stick to 33%=A0 as the 2N3904/2N3906 tra=
nsistors are not really PA devices and have no heatsinks. Truly I would be=
 <i>utterly</i> amazed if my uW signals reached you, but I am beginning to=
 think that anything is now possible.<br>
<br>73s<br>Roger=A0 G3XBM<br><br><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/9=
/13 John P-G <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gm4slv@sighthound.dem=
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Roger,<br>
<br>
One more thing - since you aren&#39;t set up for transceive operation and=
 your TX power is fairly low would it be possible for you to operate in co=
ntinuous TX mode. Then we might spot more easily any fleeting openings in=
 propagation. It would be a shame to miss a short enhancement if it were=
 to occur during one of your non-transmit periods.<br>

<br>
Just a thought<br><font color=3D"#888888">
<br>
John<br>
<br>
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Amazed!!!

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Dear Lawrence, John, LF group,

Thanks for monitoring the Wolf beacon last night.

The beacon is now (1846utc) running again in standard WOLF10 mode on 
503.500kHz - all being well, it will be going overnight. Any reports will be 
very welcome.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU

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Ill leave the receiver on wspr on 502.4, Wolf10 on 503.5 and upload the wspr 
window to http://kl1x.com/dx00000.jpg - if the processor can take it :-)




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Good evening Gus,

nice audio here in Nuernberg as well! Generally the CW part seems a bi=
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Hi John

It most certainly is/was!!  Very chuffed given that my ant system is
slightly sub-optimal!  It will be good to see what I can manage when I get a
decent system up and running

Managed it again last night too

Thanks for the reports

With best regards
 
 
Jim
 
 
Dr. James Cowburn

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James Cowburn wrote:

> 
> For now I am back on WSPR 502.4

James,

I just checked on the WSPRNET site, and sorted all your spots by 
distance - looks like you made it the Shetland twice a couple of days ago.


Searched in my ALL_MEPT file and found:

090908 0042   2 -29  1.5   0.503947  G7NKS IO92 30

090908 0350   4 -27  1.2   0.503948  G7NKS IO92 30


WSRPNET calculates this as 916km

Best DX?

Cheers,

John
GM4SLV
Clousta
Shetland
IP90gg






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Hi Marcin!
Will be glad to make an x-band via 40/80m with you if I copy your signal 
137 here.
Do not got solid copy and any trace in my location yesterday.

Roman

* Marcin <bxi@go2.pl> [Sat, 12 Sep 2009 22:03:51 +0200]:
> Hi Roman, Dear LF
> Yesterday we testing LF transmiter.
> We will be 2-way QRV long wave special event HF70W in next weekend 
night
> (19/20 September).
> > HI LF!
> >
> > Special event http://www.qrz.com/db/HF70W
> > on 137.778.0 in Moscow now!
> > Better onto RN3AGC grabber: http://www.rn3agc.msk.ru/grabber1.shtml
> > My grabber started, but is not copy at moment:
> > http://qrss.nm.ru/grabber.html
> >
> > Visible onto DF6NM and F1AFJ grabbers too.
> >
> > --
> > Roman RW3ADB.
> >
>
>




--
Roman RW3ADB.


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Dear LF Group,

The M0BMU WSPR beacon is running again - I have jacked up the antenna to 
increase the ERP a bit. G4WGT and G7NKS are also active - any reports would 
be very welcome.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU 



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1454  -9  1.0   0.137000  0 M0BMU IO91 23
1500  -9  2.3   0.137000  0 M0BMU IO91 23
1508  -9  0.9   0.137000  0 M0BMU IO91 23
1514  -9  0.9   0.137000  0 M0BMU IO91 23
1522  -9  0.9   0.137000  0 M0BMU IO91 23
1526  -8  1.0   0.137000  0 M0BMU IO91 23
1532  -9  0.9   0.137000  0 M0BMU IO91 23
1536  -9  0.8   0.137000  0 M0BMU IO91 23
1544 -10  1.2   0.137000  0 M0BMU IO91 23
1550 -10  0.9   0.137000  0 M0BMU IO91 23

73

Victor
PA3FNY

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens James Moritz
Verzonden: zondag 20 september 2009 15:17
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Onderwerp: LF: Re: WSPR 137.0k


Dear LF Group,

The M0BMU WSPR beacon is now running on 135.5kHz "dial frequency", 137.0kHz
RF out. Note change of frequency to try to avoid DCF39/HGA22 sidebands,
which some stations experience problems with. Any reports over the next few
hours would be very welcome.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU




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Toni,

sorry to read that...  You may be inclined to rebuild your long helica=
l coil, I suppose it had excellent cooling and high voltage=20
properties.

Best of luck,
Markus DF6NM

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1kw was a little too much for my antenna coil. The coil former melted
down and tomorrow I have to get another one ;-)
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Interesting spots on wspr , nothing showing at  gm4ism until round  22=
-50  gmt and then similar s/n ratios 800 kmt on=20
power approx 100 watts carrier   to  35 ft top load vert   ...=20

G ..=20



      2009-09-02 22:58   G0NBD   0.503887   -22   0   IO83lk   10   SM=
6BHZ   JO57wq   1047   57 =20
       2009-09-02 22:50   G0NBD   0.503897   -21   0   IO83lk   10  =
 GM4ISM   IO85ar   262   347 =20
       2009-09-02 22:50   G0NBD   0.503923   -25   0   IO83lk   10  =
 DK6NI   JN59ln   1058   108 =20

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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Interesting spots on wspr , nothing=
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    <TD align=3Dright>2009-09-02 22:58&nbsp;</TD>
    <TD align=3Dleft>&nbsp;G0NBD&nbsp;</TD>
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    <TD align=3Dleft>&nbsp;JN59ln&nbsp;</TD>
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Roger Lapthorn wrote:
> Well, easy for some (I can see) but NOT for me. What am I doing wrong?
> 


Roger,

Unfortunately I don't think I can help, as I'm a total novice at WOLF, 
so can't really come up with any quick fixes!

All I did was set the centre frequency to match the USB tuning offset - 
tune low 1kHz to 502.5 and set centre frequency to 1000Hz.

I think pretty much everything else standard.

Looking at my version I see that under "Mode"... I have "Receive Only" 
ticked, "WOLF 10[symbols/sec] " ---> "Normal Speed" ticked.

That's all I've done initially and it worked. Lawrence in China 
suggested I try to calibrate my soundcard, so I followed his suggestion.

I know, as has been discussed before, that WSPR is often touchy about 
soundcard sampling rates and string signals.

Don't know if WOLF is the same.

But at least can adjust for this in the software with WOLF though.

Tune to 197kHz in USB mode. THe Radio 4 carrier should be at 1kHz. If 
you've chosen a 1kHz centre frequency, on the WOLF Config tab there's a 
button marked "Cal" in the receive options area. Press it. It will work 
out a correction factor for your soundcard. I think you're then asked to 
accept the value offerred... do this and then start again. See if this 
fixes things.

As Dave YMC rightly comments - this might be one to try and then forget, 
although it seems (of setup correctly) to be quite sensitive.

Cheers,

John
GM4SLV





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Have my Rx on 500kHz (dial 502.4) immediately got copy of G7NKS, will 
leave it running for a while and uploading spots to the database

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Dave Sergeant wrote:

> One point is that with the K2 you cannot set a narrow filter at 1.5kHz 
> (a limitation of the tuning range of its IF BFO). I am sure if you used 
> such a narrow receive filter the results would be spectacularly better, 
> but I am stuck with the SSB filter.

Dave, LF

I'm not sure this would really be a big improvement.

I guess the only benefit one would gain is if there was a strong signal 
within the receiver's SSB passband, but outside the WSPR 200Hz region, 
that was upsetting the receiver's AGC.

If this isn't the case then the DSP filtering of WSPR itself should 
suffice. After all WSPR is capable of discriminating between adjacent 
WSPR transmissions <10Hz apart.

I wouldn't worry about the lack of a narrow IF filter in most 
circumstances, especially on 500kHz. 40m might be another story!

John

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Hello Piotr, LF

Please also remember to formally ask your telecom authorities to support=
 the
WRC-2012 (was WRC-2011) agenda item 1.23. This is very important for every
national amateur radio organisation to do. Way too many have not done so=
 yet
and this is about the long term future of amateur radio on MF. You must ac=
t
soon because the preparations for WRC-2012 are already in progress and the
input is needed NOW.

WRC-2011 agenda item 1.23: "to consider an allocation of about 15 kHz in=
 parts
of the band 415-526.5 kHz to the amateur service on a secondary basis, tak=
ing
into account the need to protect existing services."

73

Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ






Quoting Piotr M=C5=82ynarski <sq7mpj@toya.net.pl>:

> Dear LF group,
> The present discussion  about  uk/us 500 kHz bandplan  has triggered  a
> question which i  was going to  put here, on this reflector ,
> for some time.  In Poland, we still lack this MF band allocation to
> radioamateurs.  There is a small group of hams interested  in  having an
> access to this band..
> Some time ago i was asked  by one of our  PZK ( Polish Radioamateur
> Union)  officials to prepare a  sort of a  preliminary note about this
> issue
> I plan to write such a  note ( along with Marcin, sq2bxi and others)
> Athough this lf_reflector is uk based we all know that it has a
> world-wide character including stations from G,W,F,DL,S,OK,ON,EI,PA,I
> ,OE,HB,VE
> ( i am sorry if  any other country prefix has been ommited) . Therefore
> , my ask is the following:
> please , write  here  , on this reflector,   the 500 khz band
> allocation in particular countries  i.e.  band limits as well as   EIRP
> power,special permits. etc...
> Obviously,  with such an information provided  the   "power" of  such a
> note will be greatly increased.
>
>
> 73 de Piotr, sq7mpj
> qth: Lodz /jo91rs/
>
>




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Hi Jim

Got you at -6dB and that's on my 500 antenna system with no adjustment for
137.  Clearly audible and nice trace on waterfall.

With best regards
 
 
Jim
 
 
Dr. James Cowburn

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Dear LF Group,

The M0BMU WSPR beacon is now running on 135.5kHz "dial frequency", 137.0kHz 
RF out. Note change of frequency to try to avoid DCF39/HGA22 sidebands, 
which some stations experience problems with. Any reports over the next few 
hours would be very welcome.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU 




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Dear Jim,

Thank you for your comments.
I will try the circuit as in your description.

Best regards,

Roelof, pa0rdt


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Hello John and all ,

Good copy of your beacon last night !

73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj




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Hi Roger

 

Invariably your signals improve at my end as the night progresses and dawn
breaks.   I'm on my new autotransformer tonight.  miniVNA says SWR = 1.2 and
Xs is low but phase angle still in 20s, and Tx only putting out 30w into
load.  According to VNA I need an extra 1.2uH to bring to full resonance so
will be winding an extra coil tomorrow or Sunday.

 

Jim M is booming in now.

 

I'm looking for the 1000kn mark next and then next step is over the pond and
5000km +

 

 

 

With best regards

 

 

Jim

 

 

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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Roger Lapthorn
Sent: 18 September 2009 20:25
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: RE: G3XBM's 500kHz QRPp WSPR beacon running again

 

Thanks Dave.

Please keep listening and looking overnight. I do appreciate your effort.
Should be easier in a few weeks when I get a chance to improve things.

73s
Roger G3XBM

2009/9/18 Dave G3WCB <ganymede444@btopenworld.com>

Hi, Roger.

 

Nothing heard to date, but I'll be listening overnight. Only Jim so far.

 

1746 -11  0.6   0.503945 -1 G7NKS IO92 27
1758 -10  0.8   0.503943  0 G7NKS IO92 27
1810 -11  0.4   0.503942  0 G7NKS IO92 27
1822 -12  0.7   0.503942 -1 G7NKS IO92 27
1834 -13  0.6   0.503942  0 G7NKS IO92 27
1842 -13  0.9   0.503951  1 G7NKS IO92 27
1850 -13  0.5   0.503956  0 G7NKS IO92 27
1858 -19  1.0   0.503960  0 G7NKS IO92 27
1906 -20  0.6   0.503965  0 G7NKS IO92 27

 

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Roger Lapthorn
Sent: 18 September 2009 16:42
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: G3XBM's 500kHz QRPp WSPR beacon running again

My 500kHz beacon has just been turned back on again. Any reports or
screenshots would be appreciated.  It would be lovely to have some reports
from a few new stations too and I'd just love to get >100kms with the
current QRP set-up.

73s
Roger
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Invariably your=
 signals improve at my end
as the night progresses and dawn breaks.&nbsp;&nbsp; I&#8217;m on my=
 new autotransformer
tonight.&nbsp; miniVNA says SWR =3D 1.2 and Xs is low but phase angle=
 still in 20s,
and Tx only putting out 30w into load.&nbsp; According to VNA I need=
 an extra 1.2uH
to bring to full resonance so will be winding an extra coil tomorrow=
 or Sunday.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Jim M is boomin=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I&#8217;m looki=
ng for the 1000kn mark next
and then next step is over the pond and 5000km +<o:p></o:p></span></fo=
nt></p>

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ds</span></font><font color=3Dnavy><span style=3D'color:navy'><o:p></o=
:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dnavy face=3D"Times New Rom=
an"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></spa=
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eestyle Script"><span style=3D'font-size:24.0pt;font-family:"Freestyle=
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<span style=3D'color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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rn</span></font><font color=3Dnavy><span style=3D'color:navy'><o:p></o=
:p></span></font></p>

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nt><font color=3Dnavy><span lang=3DDE style=3D'color:navy'><o:p></o:p>=
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t size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'fo=
nt-size:10.0pt; font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></fon=
t></b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;fon=
t-family:Tahoma'> owner-<st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blac=
ksheep.org</st1:PersonName> [mailto:owner-<st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">=
rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</st1:PersonName>] <b><span style=3D'font-=
weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Roger Lapthorn<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 18 September 2009=
 20:25<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:s=
t=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: LF: RE: G3=
XBM's
500kHz QRPp WSPR beacon running again</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3D3 fac=
e=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Thanks Dave.<br=
>
<br>
Please keep listening and looking overnight. I do appreciate your effo=
rt.
Should be easier in a few weeks when I get a chance to improve things.=
<br>
<br>
73s<br>
Roger G3XBM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'>2009/9/18 Dave G3WCB &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ga=
nymede444@btopenworld.com">ganymede444@btopenworld.com</a>&gt;<o:p></o=
:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Hi, Roger.</spa=
n></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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le=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Nothing heard=
 to date, but I'll be
listening overnight. Only Jim so far.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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le=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>1746 -11&nbsp;=
 0.6&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503945 -1
G7NKS IO92 27<br>
1758 -10&nbsp; 0.8&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503943&nbsp; 0 G7NKS IO92 27<br>
1810 -11&nbsp; 0.4&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503942&nbsp; 0 G7NKS IO92 27<br>
1822 -12&nbsp; 0.7&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503942 -1 G7NKS IO92 27<br>
1834 -13&nbsp; 0.6&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503942&nbsp; 0 G7NKS IO92 27<br>
1842 -13&nbsp; 0.9&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503951&nbsp; 1 G7NKS IO92 27<br>
1850 -13&nbsp; 0.5&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503956&nbsp; 0 G7NKS IO92 27<br>
1858 -19&nbsp; 1.0&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503960&nbsp; 0 G7NKS IO92 27<br>
1906 -20&nbsp; 0.6&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503965&nbsp; 0 G7NKS IO92 27</span></=
font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>73, Dave G3WCB=
 IO91RM</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<blockquote style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3D2 fac=
e=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Or=
iginal Message-----<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> <a href=3D"mailto=
:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" target=3D"_blank">owner-rsgb_lf_g=
roup@blacksheep.org</a>
[mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" target=
=3D"_blank">owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a>]<b><span style=3D'f=
ont-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Roger Lapthorn<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 18 September 2009=
 16:42<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <a href=3D"mailto:r=
sgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" target=3D"_blank">rsgb_lf_group@blackshee=
p.org</a><br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> LF: G3XBM's 50=
0kHz QRPp
WSPR beacon running again</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'>My 500kHz beacon has just been turned back on=
 again. Any reports or
screenshots would be appreciated.&nbsp; It would be lovely to have som=
e reports
from a few new stations too and I'd just love to get &gt;100kms with=
 the
current QRP set-up.<br>
<br>
73s<br>
Roger<br>
-- <br>
-------------------------------------------------------------<br>
<a href=3D"http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://g3=
xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.g3xbm.co.uk" target=3D"_blank">http://www.g3xbm.=
co.uk</a><br>
G3XBM &nbsp; &nbsp;GQRP 1678 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;ISWL G11088<o:p></o:p=
></span></font></p>

</blockquote>

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-- <br>
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<a href=3D"http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/">http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.c=
om/</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.g3xbm.co.uk">http://www.g3xbm.co.uk</a><br>
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Hi Warren - sun up here 2158 thru 1000z  - short co darkness period to you=
 at 1000-1100z appx =3D gets better as get towards Dec

=20

Laurence

in BY3A
=20
> Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 07:56:09 -0400
> From: wd2xgj@gmail.com
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: Re: LF: Long Haul 137
>=20
> Laurence,
>=20
> What are the times for your local sunrise/sunset in UTC?
> --=20
> 73 Warren K2ORS
> WD2XGJ
> WD2XSH/23
> WE2XEB/2
> WE2XGR/1
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 1:34 AM, Laurence BY3A-KL1X China
> <hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Chaps and Chappesses. The long haul conditions towards Eu, and for=
 that
> > matter probably elsewhere are pretty good at the moment - DCF39 was po=
unding
> > in way over S9 last night here on the Eastern coastal region of China,=
 and
> > s/n noise, in a box or otherwise, were getting better and it wasnt hur=
ting
> > my ears any more. Always a good sign. Mid range NDB's at around 1500Km=
s on
> > the otherhand were down a bit.
> >
> > If anyone wants to shove any mode up the spout on 137 or 500 my way Id=
 be
> > delighted to turn the knobs as long as you send an email before lights=
 out
> > here at around 1330z.
> >
> > Its interesting to look at the 500 captures of Gus and see how short=
 the
> > opening is at the moment - akin to the ol' gray/grey oblique iono tilt=
s.
> > looking at the data the typical fades/peaks are around 1 minute, so lo=
nger
> > than I thought, but very deep, but I bet they change when the iono kic=
ks up.
> > Slightly short a time for WOLF but Im betting it still overall a bette=
r mode
> > for long (long) haul than results have shown so far with WSPR.
> >
> > Laurence, SWLing in  OM89UA Tanggu China.
> >
> > ________________________________
> > Lauren found her dream laptop. Find the PC that=92s right for you.
>=20
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Hi&nbsp;Warren&nbsp;- sun up here&nbsp;2158 thru 1000z&nbsp; - short co da=
rkness period to you at 1000-1100z appx =3D gets better as&nbsp;get toward=
s&nbsp;Dec<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Laurence<BR>
in BY3A<BR>&nbsp;<BR>&gt; Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 07:56:09 -0400<BR>&gt; Fr=
om: wd2xgj@gmail.com<BR>&gt; To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR>&gt; Subj=
ect: Re: LF: Long Haul 137<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Laurence,<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Wha=
t are the times for your local sunrise/sunset in UTC?<BR>&gt; -- <BR>&gt;=
 73 Warren K2ORS<BR>&gt; WD2XGJ<BR>&gt; WD2XSH/23<BR>&gt; WE2XEB/2<BR>&gt;=
 WE2XGR/1<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; On Fri, Sep=
 25, 2009 at 1:34 AM, Laurence BY3A-KL1X China<BR>&gt; &lt;hellozerohelloz=
ero@hotmail.com&gt; wrote:<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; Hi Chaps and Chappess=
es. The long haul conditions towards Eu, and for that<BR>&gt; &gt; matter=
 probably elsewhere are pretty good at the moment - DCF39 was pounding<BR>=
&gt; &gt; in way over S9 last night here on the Eastern coastal region of=
 China, and<BR>&gt; &gt; s/n noise, in a box or otherwise, were getting be=
tter and it wasnt hurting<BR>&gt; &gt; my ears any more. Always a good sig=
n. Mid range NDB's at around 1500Kms on<BR>&gt; &gt; the otherhand were do=
wn a bit.<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; If anyone wants to shove any mode up=
 the spout on 137 or 500 my way Id be<BR>&gt; &gt; delighted to turn the=
 knobs as long as you send an email before lights out<BR>&gt; &gt; here at=
 around 1330z.<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; Its interesting to look at the 50=
0 captures of Gus and see how short the<BR>&gt; &gt; opening is at the mom=
ent - akin to the ol' gray/grey oblique iono tilts.<BR>&gt; &gt; looking=
 at the data the typical&nbsp;fades/peaks are around 1 minute, so longer<B=
R>&gt; &gt; than I thought, but very deep, but I bet they change when the=
 iono kicks up.<BR>&gt; &gt; Slightly short a time for WOLF but Im betting=
 it still overall a better mode<BR>&gt; &gt; for long (long) haul than res=
ults have shown so far with WSPR.<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; Laurence, SWLi=
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Roman ,

Roman RW3ADB a =C3=A9crit :
> Hi jean-Pierre!
>
> You are oriented right, I'm looked!
> There is no TX stations from russia today.
> Andrey RN3AGC started his grabber and no TX, Anatoly UA4WPF TX'd 1=20
> cycle around 2230mscLT and finished.
> I'm onto 503 kHz now, looking WSPR beacons.
> If I looked info from WPF next time I'm let you know!
Thank you  for this info
>
> 73!
> Roman
Good night , 73 Jean-Pierre

PS : i switch antenna in USA direction now .
>
>
> * "\"Jean-Pierre M=C3=A9r=C3=A9 (F1AFJ)\"" <jpm.f1afj@online.fr> [Sun,=
 06 Sep=20
> 2009 22:49:40 +0200]:
>> Roman ,
>> My grabber is ON ,
>> antenna at QTF 60=C2=B0 for 2 hours ,
>> after i swich in USA direction !
>> 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj
>>
>> Roman RW3ADB a =C3=A9crit :
>> > Hi Jean-Pierre & LF agn!
>> > Yep, condx are very good!
>> > I was surprised last night!
>> > I'm put the screenshots from all night into QRSS-90 mode and half of
>> > night in QRSS-120 onto my report 136-page:
>> > http://qrss.nm.ru/136.html
>> >
>> > 73!
>> > Roman
>> >
>> > * "\"Jean-Pierre M=C3=A9r=C3=A9 (F1AFJ)\"" <jpm.f1afj@online.fr> [Sun=
, 06 Sep
>> > 2009 19:42:47 +0200]:
>> >> Hi  Roman ,
>> >> Tnx , good conditions !
>> >> 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj
>> >>
>> >> Roman RW3ADB a =C3=A9crit :
>> >> > Hello Jean-Pierre & LF!
>> >> > It was an UA4WPF beacon.He was visible very good during the last
>> > night
>> >> > into my grabber in Moscow.
>> >> > http://rw3adb.narod.ru/2009/5sep2009_UA4WPF/137.07W_90_00009.jpg
>> >> > http://rw3adb.narod.ru/2009/5sep2009_UA4WPF/137.07W_120_00002.jpg
>> >> > Was traced onto your grabber and DF6NM too.
>> >> >
>> >> > * "\"Jean-Pierre M=C3=A9r=C3=A9 (F1AFJ)\"" <jpm.f1afj@online.fr>=
 [Sun, 06=20
> Sep
>> >> > 2009 13:59:27 +0200]:
>> >> >> Ok Andrey , Tnx for info
>> >> >>
>> >> >> 73 Jean-Pierre
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Andrey rn3agc a =C3=A9crit :
>> >> >> > Hi Jean-Pierre,
>> >> >> > It, probably, was beacon UA4WPF.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > 73
>> >> >> > Andrey
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> Hello LF ,
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> My antenna was in directection of the USA , I raised of the
>> > traces
>> >> > on
>> >> >> >> 137777. 2 , I suppose that it is ACG in beaconning !
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > Roman RW3ADB.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Roman RW3ADB.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
>
>
> --=20
> Roman RW3ADB.
>
>
>

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Roman,

thank's report and info !

73 de Gus SM6BHZ


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> Hi Gus, LF!
> 1926 -24  1.2   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
> 1932 -26  1.1   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
> 1938 -27  1.1   0.503925  1 SM6BHZ JO57 30
> 1958 -16  1.1   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2014 -15  1.0   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 2022 -15  0.9   0.503925  0 SM6BHZ JO57 40
> 
> Negative copy M0BMU today in my location. It' s a pity.
> 
> 
> --
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>




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No sign of any other stations last night. I'll be able to monitor again on
Wednesday evening.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM n Windsor S.E. England

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WSPR report of Gus's signal this evening.

Also looking for G3XBM, but static levels re very high tonight.

2255  -6  0.6   0.503526  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM n Windsor S.E. England

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My 500kHz WSPR beacon will be closing in a few minutes and back on overnight
tonight.

73s
Roger
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> >>>I have learnt, WSPR sounds like a slightly rough CW and is transmitted
> in 
> >>>4min-blocks. <<<<<
> 
> Dennis , That may  not be wspr , wspr  tx time is  120 seconds locked to
> the 
> exact time , with the  start time on the  00-00
> by sound its like a very  slow narrow shift psk signal .....but it is only
> one  carrier  changing frequency  with  no breaks in the 120 second 
> transmission

Okay better to say: One cycle seemed to be 4min, divided into abt. 115sec TX and 125sec no TX, maybe RX? The beginning of the received transmissions were always well within half a second around even minute + zero seconds which to me seems to be the strongest hint that is really was some wspr what I was hearing. (DCF77-clock beside the speaker)

Since yesterday I'm looking for a notebook - to run wspr :)

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We'll soon see if it works ok/better

I need to work on the transformer a bit and have had some more pointers from
Jim M so that's a project for tomorrow

See you on WSPR

With best regards
 
 
Jim
 
 
Dr. James Cowburn
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James Cowburn wrote:
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> 
>  
> 
> G7NKS is back on tonight with a new umbrella antenna under test.  
> 
>  
> 
> 10m vertical element with 4x8m capacity wires sloping down at 45degrees.
> Not ideal but a little better than the old "L".   

James,

This is much the same antenna as I've used on 500kHz. I started with 12m 
height, but Shetland weather saw to that.... I then used 8m, with 
sloping capacity wires of approx 6m, acting as guys (insulators at the 
lower ends ends and nylon rope for the last section to the guying points.)

I tuned it with a variety of fixed and tapped inductors and matched to 
50 ohms with a tapped ferrite transformer, all in a plastic bin at the 
feed point. A run of 50 ohm feeder back to the shack.

I've had reports and QSOs (in-band and cross-band) from at least the 
follwing: G/GW/GM/GI/EI/LA/SM/DL/OH/F/PA/ON and probably others. I've 
had QSOs with powers as low as 100mW TX power and up to 200W TX power.

My estimate of the ERP for 100W TX power is 4-500mW on a good day (very 
dependant on ground losses which affect the antenna current and hence 
the radiated power).

Hope you have success with it.

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Thanks for the tip John.
PA3CPM very strong signal here, F8BOJ also there but weaker than when=
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Hi LF,
Capture who?
henny pa3cpm
73s
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You just could not make it up !

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>
> On 01/09/2009 at 20:17 mal hamilton wrote:
>
>>Roger I am stating the facts, someone else mentioned seeing the signals
>>on the waterfall but they were not decoding. I could easlily have made a
>>qso on cw given the strength of signals whereas WSPR was not decoding, so
>>the exercise is pointless.
>
> That was me.  I wasn't decoding because I don't yet have a decoder.  Had I 
> had one, and given the snr I observed, I would have expected 100% copy. 
> On the few occasions I have heard Mal, his snr has not been anything like 
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Dear LF Group,

The M0BMU WSPR beacon is now running on 135.5kHz "dial frequency", 137.0kHz 
RF out. Note change of frequency to try to avoid DCF39/HGA22 sidebands, 
which some stations experience problems with. Any reports over the next few 
hours would be very welcome.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU 



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On 21/09/2009 at 18:23 mal hamilton wrote:

>WSPR is a minority interest ...=20

Since when we have had to follow the majority?  I remember when most phone=
 was on AM.  SSB users were very much in the minority and received comment=
s equivalent to those we get from Mal. =20

The same applied at one time to NBFM on VHF/UHF.  Anyway, in amateur radio=
 as a whole, CW operators are probably in the minority (puts hard hat on=
 and dives under the table).=20

>The majority of operators on 500 are CW OPERATORS and should not let the=
 TAIL WAG THE DOG.

But for those who are fortunate enough to have the band, there is room eno=
ugh for several modes on 500.  It is not intended to be "just another ham=
 band" but is for carrying out innovative investigations.  _You_ are not=
 obliged to use WSPR, but should not denigrate those who do. =20
=20
>160 metres ...  where the bandwidth approx 200 Kcs wide.

Not in France it isn't.  We have 1810 to 1850kHz on Topband.

John F5VLF




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On 11/09/2009 at 07:05 John P-G wrote:

>"your report is 59 please repeat your name and QTH"

You think you are joking!  A couple of years ago a G6+2 came back to me wi=
th just that.  I think we should get rid of RS(T) in contests and make the=
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My Dell Inspiron Laptop, when  11025Hz sampling rate is requested, actually
gives 10800Hz (near enough) which was enough to completely kill JT4
decoding.  (JT4 is a WSJT mode, not totally unlike WSPR in its coding/error
correction and use of four frequency FSK with 50% embedded sync, but with a
much wider frequency shift and 48 second Tx period with 4.375Hz symbol
interval).

The WSJT software itself measures and reports sampling rate errors and
allows the user to enter the values into the setup - quite why Joe never
made this an automatic procedure I wonder....

the 'JNT theory why it was so far out...
The old sampling rate of 11025 has factors of (3 * 3 * 5 * 5 * 7 * 7)
However 12000Hz has factors   5 * 5 * 5 * 3 * 2 * 2 * 2 * 2 * 2 * 2
So I'm guessing 10800 (factors of  5 * 5 * 3 * 3 * 3 * 2 * 2 * 2 * 2)
 is adopted as it has more in common with 12000 and keeps the firmware
simpler.

Frequency error of 2.08% which I'm sure a musician would detect

As WSPR is the first from the WSJT stable to use 12000 sampling, presumably
he saw no need to put the correction into the original WSPR software.


Andy
www.g4jnt.com
(working on modifying WSPR beacon software for the ancient AD9851 DDS, as I
have a couple spare now)

this email has been scanned for political correctness by the nanny state


2009/9/12 Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>

> Jim,
>
> Re the  size of error
>
> With the  delta-4 card, the  tx frame could be observed to  be  some  2 or
> more seconds short of the  expected time  window
>
> 1 % ~  1.2 seconds , 2 %  ~ 2.4  seconds, assumedly indicating the clock on
> the  card runs fast, but as to the  influence of the system by the software,
> dma, irq etc  Im not  sure, one problem is I expect is the soundcards are
> not  designed to be the  interface for  a accurate  frequency meter /
> generator and as such compromises 'must' exist ...
>
> The only  comparison I can think of is the running of a movie at  shot at
> 24 fps  for projection , on a tele cinie system at  25 fps to  sync with the
> uk 50 hz frame rate  , giving a lift in the sound  pitch of + ~ 4 % ? , I
> know that this dose generate  irate phone  calls from musicians pointing out
> that orchestras appear to  be   'sharp' but not many  hi .. so its possible
> a tolerance of  2 %  may be accepted
>
> G .
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "James Moritz" <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>
> Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 1:33 PM
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Subject: LF: Re: WOLF/WSPR Sound card issues
>
>
>
>> Dear Dave,
>>
>> AC 97
>> (http://download.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/sb/ac97_r23.pdf )
>> specifies 48kHz as the basic, obligatory sample rate for compliant sound
>> cards, so yours should certainly be able to do it - to find more info, you
>> could try looking for the audio codec chip on the motherboard - usually a
>> very tiny square 48pin thing near the audio connectors, and searching
>> using
>> its type number. But I guess what sample rate is actually used will depend
>> on software, drivers and so forth - perhaps someone with experience of PC
>> sound card programming could advise. Looking at the audio settings in the
>> Windows control panel may well tell you what sample rates are possible.
>> Also, some software allows you to select different sample rates, for
>> instance Spectrum Lab, but not Argo as far as I know.
>>
>> The errors you are getting in the measured frequency seem to be enormous -
>> 2
>> or 3%, which would certainly give rise to problems.
>>
>> Cheers, Jim Moritz
>> 73 de M0BMU
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Sergeant" <dave@davesergeant.com
>> >
>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 11:59 AM
>> Subject: LF: WOLF/WSPR Sound card issues
>>
>>
>> It seems that both WOLF and WSPR are
>>
>>> designed for current sound cards which have 48,000 and 96,000 clock
>>> rates. Mine is obviously from the old stable so has 44,100 etc rates.
>>>
>>> For information it is the sound card interface built into the
>>> motherboard, an ASR Rock K7S41GX dating from 2003 with generic AC'97
>>> sound. Zilch more given about its spec in the manual.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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<div>My Dell Inspiron Laptop, when=A0 11025Hz sampling rate is requested,=
 actually gives 10800Hz (near enough) which was enough to completely kill=
 JT4 decoding.=A0 (JT4 is a WSJT mode, not totally unlike WSPR in its codi=
ng/error correction=A0and use of four frequency FSK with 50% embedded sync=
, but with a much wider frequency shift and 48 second Tx period with 4.375=
Hz symbol interval).</div>

<div>=A0</div>
<div>The WSJT software itself measures and reports sampling rate errors an=
d allows the user to enter the values into the setup - quite why Joe never=
 made this an automatic procedure I wonder....</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>the &#39;JNT theory why it was so far out...</div>
<div>The old sampling rate of 11025=A0has factors of (3 * 3 * 5 * 5=A0* 7=
 * 7)</div>
<div>However 12000Hz has factors=A0=A0=A05 * 5 * 5 *=A03 * 2 * 2 * 2 * 2=
 * 2 * 2</div>
<div>So I&#39;m guessing 10800 (factors of=A0 5 * 5 * 3 * 3 * 3 * 2 * 2 *=
 2 * 2) =A0is=A0adopted as it has more in common with 12000 and keeps the=
 firmware simpler.</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>Frequency error of 2.08% which I&#39;m sure a musician would detect</=
div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>As WSPR is the first from the WSJT stable to use 12000 sampling, pres=
umably he saw no need to put the correction into the original WSPR softwar=
e.=A0=A0 </div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div><br clear=3D"all">Andy<br><a href=3D"http://www.g4jnt.com/">www.g4jnt=
.com</a><br></div>
<div>(working on modifying WSPR beacon software for the ancient AD9851 DDS=
, as I have a couple spare now)</div>
<div><br>this email has been scanned for political correctness by the nann=
y state<br><br><br></div>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/9/12 Graham <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk">g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk</a>&gt;</span>=
<br>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8e=
x; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">Jim,<br><br>Re the =A0size of=
 error<br><br>With the =A0delta-4 card, the =A0tx frame could be observed=
 to =A0be =A0some =A02 or more seconds short of the =A0expected time =A0wi=
ndow<br>
<br>1 % ~ =A01.2 seconds , 2 % =A0~ 2.4 =A0seconds, assumedly indicating=
 the clock on the =A0card runs fast, but as to the =A0influence of the sys=
tem by the software, dma, irq etc =A0Im not =A0sure, one problem is I expe=
ct is the soundcards are not =A0designed to be the =A0interface for =A0a=
 accurate =A0frequency meter / generator and as such compromises &#39;must=
&#39; exist ...<br>
<br>The only =A0comparison I can think of is the running of a movie at =A0=
shot at 24 fps =A0for projection , on a tele cinie system at =A025 fps to=
 =A0sync with the uk 50 hz frame rate =A0, giving a lift in the sound =A0p=
itch of + ~ 4 % ? , I know that this dose generate =A0irate phone =A0calls=
 from musicians pointing out that orchestras appear to =A0be =A0 &#39;shar=
p&#39; but not many =A0hi .. so its possible a tolerance of =A02 % =A0may=
 be accepted<br>
<br>G .<br><br>--------------------------------------------------<br>From:=
 &quot;James Moritz&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:james.moritz@btopenworld.c=
om" target=3D"_blank">james.moritz@btopenworld.com</a>&gt;<br>Sent: Saturd=
ay, September 12, 2009 1:33 PM=20
<div class=3D"im"><br>To: &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.o=
rg" target=3D"_blank">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a>&gt;<br></div>Subjec=
t: LF: Re: WOLF/WSPR Sound card issues=20
<div>
<div></div>
<div class=3D"h5"><br><br>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8e=
x; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote"><br>Dear Dave,<br><br>AC 97<br=
>(<a href=3D"http://download.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/sb/ac9=
7_r23.pdf" target=3D"_blank">http://download.intel.com/support/motherboard=
s/desktop/sb/ac97_r23.pdf</a> )<br>
specifies 48kHz as the basic, obligatory sample rate for compliant sound<b=
r>cards, so yours should certainly be able to do it - to find more info,=
 you<br>could try looking for the audio codec chip on the motherboard - us=
ually a<br>
very tiny square 48pin thing near the audio connectors, and searching usin=
g<br>its type number. But I guess what sample rate is actually used will=
 depend<br>on software, drivers and so forth - perhaps someone with experi=
ence of PC<br>
sound card programming could advise. Looking at the audio settings in the<=
br>Windows control panel may well tell you what sample rates are possible.=
<br>Also, some software allows you to select different sample rates, for<b=
r>
instance Spectrum Lab, but not Argo as far as I know.<br><br>The errors yo=
u are getting in the measured frequency seem to be enormous - 2<br>or 3%,=
 which would certainly give rise to problems.<br><br>Cheers, Jim Moritz<br=
>
73 de M0BMU<br><br>----- Original Message ----- From: &quot;Dave Sergeant&=
quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dave@davesergeant.com" target=3D"_blank">dave@=
davesergeant.com</a>&gt;<br>To: &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacks=
heep.org" target=3D"_blank">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a>&gt;<br>
Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 11:59 AM<br>Subject: LF: WOLF/WSPR Soun=
d card issues<br><br><br>It seems that both WOLF and WSPR are<br>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8e=
x; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">designed for current sound car=
ds which have 48,000 and 96,000 clock<br>rates. Mine is obviously from the=
 old stable so has 44,100 etc rates.<br>
<br>For information it is the sound card interface built into the<br>mothe=
rboard, an ASR Rock K7S41GX dating from 2003 with generic AC&#39;97<br>sou=
nd. Zilch more given about its spec in the manual.<br><br></blockquote><br=
>
<br><br></blockquote><br><br><br></div></div>
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x; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote"><br>No virus found in this inc=
oming message.<br>Checked by AVG - <a href=3D"http://www.avg.com/" target=
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John P-G wrote:

>
>
>
> Graham is often difficult here too though, and I think this is related 
> to a soundcard problem at his end. The fact that you're nearer will 
> probably just exacerbate the effect.
>
> In general however it does appear that the mode is very good on weak 
> signals and hit and miss on strong ones and one suspects that it's 
> very intolerant of errors in soundcard sample rate - which is masked 
> with weak signals to some extent.
>
> Cheers,
>
> John
>
>
>
Hello LF Group,
just to add  more points to the ongoing disscussion  about wspr  
problem: to decode or not to decode ... :)
in  my view John, GM4SLV is right  when indicating that the  soundcard 
sample rate  may be responsible for not decoding at all or, in part, 
for  errors.
some time ago i've posted to this reflector  the following observation:
 the wspr is using bin size of  FFT  8192 and  transmits  162 data  bits 
at 12000 Hz  sampling rate so  the wspr transmission lasts  
162*8192/12000  = 110.59 seconds i.e  less  than  2 minutes.  if  the 
11025 sampling rate was used than we would  have 162*8192/11025 = 120.37 
seconds - just over 2 min.
most  of the soundcards have, say, master sapmling rate of 44.1 khz  
therefore when downconverting  this  rate  to the used sampling rate of 
12000 Hz 
some non-integer "offset" appears and how the drivers/chips deal with 
this issue is an open problem
let me now add  few other observations.. when i used wspr for the first 
time (  on HF bands) soon  i  got interested in  its performance  in the 
case of a strong signals so i have asked  another ham (  we live in the 
same city  abt 3 km frm each other)  to TX strong signal  - indeed it 
was red on the display and there was no problem
to properly decode his transmission. in the next 'experiment' i asked 
him to do the same but at the same time i was trying to decode the 
signal from  distant transmitting stations ( i do not remember  exactly 
but i think it was a 7 Mhz band )  again,  i was properly decoding  weak 
stations in a presence of a "red" strip on the waterfall. In some way  , 
the last  issue was also confirmed yesterday when i successfuly decoded  
Jim , M0BMU and Gus, SM6BHZ: (frm MEPT.txt file)
in the same time slot:
090903 2242  22  -9  0.6   0.503956  SM6BHZ JO57 30          0     1    0
090903 2242  12 -19  0.4   0.503981  M0BMU IO91 33           0     1    0
Ok, it is only 10db difference but sure it is possible .
It seems that Jim, M0BMU  has made a point  when  indicating the 
narrow-band  qrm's.  if it is close to the 'signal' there is a false 
decode or no decode at all.
here i have terrible and floating  qrm  on 500 kHz when it gets closer  
to the signal wspr fails.
As for the PC clock synchronization..- again,  i have looked into 
all_mept file and i can see that DT can be as much as  3sec and still 
yield a positive decode
090328 2244  12 -18  3.4   0.505094  DI2AG JN59 27           0   232    
0           (DT=3.4sec)
 
                                                                           
yours, peter, sq7mpj
qth: Lodz /jo91rs/







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Dear LF

 

G7NKS is back on tonight with a new umbrella antenna under test.  

 

10m vertical element with 4x8m capacity wires sloping down at 45degrees.
Not ideal but a little better than the old "L".   

 

According to the VNA the Xs is down to 4 and the SWR at the base before
transformer went from 2.5 to 1.8.

 

Back at the shack the SWR was 2 and after the transformer it was 1.5 with Xs
still at 15

 

Power output hasn't changed much though so we'll see if its any more
efficient

 

Thanks for any reports

 

 

 

With best regards

 

 

Jim

 

 

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ize:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>According to the VNA the Xs is down to=
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ize:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>Back at the shack the SWR was 2 and aft=
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was 1.5 with Xs still at 15<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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> 
> HI, Claude!
> RN3AGC Andrey ask you trying to TX on 137777 up to 2-3 hours later.
> Trying to see you in Moscow.
> The grabbers started ON:
> http://www.rn3agc.msk.ru/grabber1.shtml
> http://qrss.nm.ru/grabber.html
> 
> --
> Roman RW3ADB.
> 
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Hi LF,
Capture 505khz
Henny pa3cpm
73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
505khz 05-09.jpg

Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld.

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi LF,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Capture 505khz</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Henny pa3cpm</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>73s</FONT></DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het volgende 
bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:<BR>505khz 05-09.jpg<BR><BR>Opmerking: 
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Roger,

do you confirm 503.830 kHz?

Marco IK1ODO


At 21.46 15/09/2009, you wrote:
>My 500kHz WSPR beacon is now back on again and will run overnight tonight.
>
>All reports appreciated. I'd also appreciate some screenshots please.
>
>Tomorrow I will try to do a small improvement to the ground system 
>that might be worth a couple of dBs.
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>73s
>Roger




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Hello Jean-Pierre & LF!
It was an UA4WPF beacon.He was visible very good during the last night 
into my grabber in Moscow.
http://rw3adb.narod.ru/2009/5sep2009_UA4WPF/137.07W_90_00009.jpg
http://rw3adb.narod.ru/2009/5sep2009_UA4WPF/137.07W_120_00002.jpg
Was traced onto your grabber and DF6NM too.

* "\"Jean-Pierre MĂŠrĂŠ (F1AFJ)\"" <jpm.f1afj@online.fr> [Sun, 06 Sep 2009 
13:59:27 +0200]:
> Ok Andrey , Tnx for info
>
> 73 Jean-Pierre
>
> Andrey rn3agc a ĂŠcrit :
> > Hi Jean-Pierre,
> > It, probably, was beacon UA4WPF.
> >
> > 73
> > Andrey
> >
> >
> >> Hello LF ,
> >>
> >> My antenna was in directection of the USA , I raised of the traces 
on
> >> 137777. 2 , I suppose that it is ACG in beaconning !
> >>
> >> 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>




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Hi Graham!

* Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> [Fri, 18 Sep 2009 00:14:09 +0100]:
> Roman
>
> Details from the  web page  :-
>
> Location : IO90IV
> Carrier frequency : 503.700 KHz
> 100W RF Out (peak / carrier)
> 7m high Tee antenna with 14m top span.
> Gain estimate -27dB - based on Rrad / Rload measurements
>
>
> >>>>ERP 23dBm.<<<<<

TNX for info!
Will be trying to copy it signal.


> 73 - Graham
>
> No idea ... but  may  be  right  hihi
> uk500khz group page  using google  translate
>
> 
http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fgroup%2Fuk500khz%2Fweb%2Fmulti-function-beacon-by-andy-g4jnt&sl=en&tl=ru&history_state0=

TNX!
Looknig original, more good the curve translate))

Roman

> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Roman RW3ADB" <rw3adb@rambler.ru>
> Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 11:47 PM
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Subject: Re: LF: signal
>
> >
> > Hi Gary, LF!
> > TNX!
> > Hope to look that signal now.
> > How many EIRP?
> >
> > Roman
> >
> >
> > * Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk> [Tue, 15 Sep 2009 10:22:58
> +0100]:
> >> Hi Roman, LF,
> >>
> >> The signal on 503.700 kHz you can see on my grabber is the
> propagation
> >> beacon being run by Andy G4JNT, transmissions are at15 minute
> >> intervals at 0004, 0019, 0034 & 0049 minutes of each hour. The 
beacon
> >> now runs 24/7.
> >>
> >> It has a similar function & features to the beacons running on the
> >> 5MHz band (GB3RAL, GB3WES & GB3ORK).
> >>
> >> For a full description of the beacon on 503.700 kHz please have a
> look
> >> at the UK500KHZ group web site at :-
> >>
> >>
> >
> 
http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/multi-function-beacon-by-andy-g4jnt
> >>
> >> Regards es 73
> >>
> >> Gary - G4WGT.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 2009/9/15 Roman RW3ADB <rw3adb@rambler.ru>:
> >> >
> >> > Hi Gary, LF!
> >> >
> >> > Tell me pse, what is a signal I can see some time into G4WGT
> > grabber?
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Roman RW3ADB.
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Roman RW3ADB.
> >
> >
>
>
>
> >
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>
>
>




--
Roman RW3ADB.


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Hello LFers,

On a recent trip to Newfoundland my wife and I had the pleasure
of meeting Joe, VO1NA, for an eyeball QSO and chat about our
LF activities.  Attached is a shot of Joe sitting on the base of his
LowFER antenna...now we know why his signal is seen across
the pond!!  Seriously, it's a pix of a new installation at a coast
guard antenna farm nearby.

After the tour of a few antenna sites we went to Joe's QTH for a
look at his antennas and station.  We met his wife and daughter
and where treated to a lovely roast turkey dinner.  The visit was
a highlight of our trip and shows how ham radio can open doors
that might otherwise be missed.  Thanks Joe!!

73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
Solar and wind powered
Lowfer " EAR"  188.830
EN93dr

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WSPR signals last evening copied from G4JNT, G4WGT, G7NKS and SM6BHZ=
 on 500kHz. Also very strong signal during the day from M0BMU on 137kH=
z.
My report of your DFCW signal on 137 the other day, Jim, had the wrong=
 frequency - sorry about that, added the difference 20Hz rather than=
 subtracted from my RX offset - should have been 137.68 of course.
Tend to agree with Mal's comments, I am having difficulty in seeing th=
e point of some of this when there is little in the way of exchanged=
 information between stations. There is a place for beacons, certainly=
. What concerns me is that the casual listener tuning across the band=
 probably has no idea there's anybody on.
Vy 73,
Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent, JO01MI.

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Hi folks,

My WSPR beacon is closing shortly. Thanks for reports this morning from
M0BMU, and from G3XVL and G6ALB yesterday. No others as yet.

Later today, and before my holiday away, I hope to try a couple of quick and
simple changes to the antenna and ground that may result in a slightly
greater antenna current. All being well, the beacon will be on again later
this afternoon and overnight tonight. Any reports would be greatly
appreciated so I can compare performance.

Further improvements will have to then wait until October.

73s
Roger G3XBM
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http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/
http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
G3XBM    GQRP 1678      ISWL G11088

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Hi folks,<br><br>My WSPR beacon is closing shortly. Thanks for reports thi=
s morning from M0BMU, and from G3XVL and G6ALB yesterday. No others as yet=
.<br><br>Later today, and before my holiday away, I hope to try a couple=
 of quick and simple changes to the antenna and ground that may result in=
 a slightly greater antenna current. All being well, the beacon will be on=
 again later this afternoon and overnight tonight. Any reports would be gr=
eatly appreciated so I can compare performance.<br>
<br>Further improvements will have to then wait until October.<br><br>73s<=
br>Roger G3XBM<br>--------------------------------------------------------=
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pot.com/</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.g3xbm.co.uk">http://www.g3xbm.co.uk</a><br>G3XBM =A0=
 =A0GQRP 1678 =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL G11088<br>

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