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On 23 Jun 2009 at 18:40, Gary - G4WGT wrote:

> This is a bit worrying, I am getting spam e-mails using my e-mail
> address (this one - g4wgt) as the source/return address. I have already
> had a post from some one in Germany querying the validity of the return
> mail address so many others must be getting them also.
> 
> 
> 
> Is there some way to resolve this issue, stop it happening or notify
> some authority or what-ever?

In a word, no....

Spammers often do choose innocent individuals as the 'from' address as 
their spam mails - they are not sent by you at all of course, rather by 
large numbers of infected machines all over the world which they hijack 
for their purposes. It is virtually impossible to trace exactly where 
the mails were actually sent, and even if you did you could do nothing. 
These attacks usually die down after a few days after the spammer has 
sent his particular run.

Best way though is to stop your email address getting to the spammers 
in the first place - NEVER open spam mails if you have allowed your 
email program to download remote graphics (that means the preview pane 
as well) as that will confirm your address is valid. Never put your 
email address on websites in the clear, and general take care on who 
you do give it to. Using a program such as Mailwasher to preview and 
delete the spam before it gets to your email program is a good idea as 
well (but do NOT use its 'bounce' feature as that makes your particular 
problem infinitely worse).

73 Dave G3YMC

http://www.davesergeant.com



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Dave Pick schrieb:
> Gus
>
> I just get a screen full of random characters in Firefox.
> In Internet Explorer (which I don't use) it works OK.
>
> Dave G3YXM
>
The same at my side!

73,
Tom
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That's good, might be a sun spot by then !

G ..

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Hi!
Following signals observed tonight 
12.VI.- 13.VI.2009 

-----------------------------------------------------------
QTH Berlin city JO62RM
RX homemade simple superhet
IF-bandwidth abt 150Hz
ANT wireloop abt 15sqm, 
10m agl. in a linden tree
„pointing Iceland“ = NW/SE
--------------------------------------------------------------



23:18Z - 00:27Z   OK0EMW  distance about 482km
audible for an estimated one-third of the observing time
RST peaking say 559 at max.

00:28Z - 00:59Z   SK6RUD  distance about 538km
The local carriers usually blocking 500.000kHz
surprisingly weren't present this time.
Signal audible for most of the 31min 
observing time, RST peaking say 539 at max.


Thank You for providing the signals :)

vy73
Dennis
DL6NVC














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Hello Henny, Jean-Pierre,

  Thank you for the excellent captures!
--=20
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
                WE2XEB/2
                WE2XGR/1



On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 3:49 AM, "Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9
(F1AFJ)"<jpm.f1afj@online.fr> wrote:
> Hello Henny , Warren ,
>
> Last night , the grabber could not charge the ftp ( failure connection
> Internet ) , but the capures are stored in the PC .
> Good copy of WD2XGJ (01:30 =3D> 03:30) to see united pictures .
>
> 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj
>
> henny van elst a =E9crit :
>>
>> Hi Warren,Lf
>> Nice copy XGJ
>> Henny pa3cpm
>> best 73s
>>
>
>
>

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Thank you Henny for the capture!
WD2XGJ may be off - storms are predicted for the next few days.

-- 
73 Warren K2ORS
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2009/6/3 henny van elst <cpm@planet.nl>:
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> capture XGJ
> Henny pa3cpm
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Dear Richard, LF Group,

The umbrella antenna has a capacitance of about 144pF (against 129pF 
calculated by EZNEC) and a resistance of about 70ohms (rising to nearer 80 
ohms after some rain). It was tuned by a tapped series loading coil with 
variometer for fine tuning - the total inductance required is around 700uH. 
The coil added a further loss resistance of 9 ohms. Resistance matching to 
the TX was done with a multi-tapped auto transformer wound on a small SMPS 
core. To prevent a lot of RF current flowing down the coax feeder to mains 
earth and bypassing the radials, I used a common-mode choke in the feeder at 
the ATU end consisting of about 20 turns of RG58 coax on a large ferrite 
toroid core.

I also tried the idea of tuning the capacitive reactance of the radials 
using a coil in series with the ground connection to the ATU. This used a 
small tapped coil of about 50uH maximum between the ground terminal of the 
transformer, and the common point of the 4 radial wires. I measured the RF 
voltage between the transformer ground terminal and a "real ground" ground 
spike at the bottom of the antenna using a diode voltmeter. With no radial 
tuning inductance, the RF voltage was about 90V with 1A antenna current. 
Adjusting the tap on the coil gave a minimum of 17V (including a few V due 
to the local broadcast stations!). This required about 26uH of inductance - 
the main loading coil has to be reduced by the same amount to maintain 
resonance. It is not possible to get 0V in this way, because the tuning 
inductor cannot tune out the resistive component of the ground impedance, 
and anyway, the "real" ground potential is a bit arbitrary, but clearly a 
substantial reduction is possible, which would be useful for QRO operation.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU


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> Hi Jim
>
> I was out so I missed the tests last night. What ATU configuration did you 
> use? My system is just awaiting a suitable day for initial tests.
>
> 73
>
> Richard
> G3CWI
> 



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On 87kHz cave radio loop 60cm diameter.

Undetectable on my 136kHz loop (2m diameter).

John Rabson 
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France
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Tim
=A0
Try:-

Loop Antenna News and Information=A0 Forum
=A0
loopantennas@yahoogroups.com
=A0
Loads of info there!!
=A0
73 petefmt
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On Wed, 10/6/09, tim hague <m0afj@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:

From: tim hague <m0afj@dsl.pipex.com>
Subject: Re: LF: Re Welbrook Loops
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Wednesday, 10 June, 2009, 9:47 AM



Dave Pick wrote:
> Tim
>=20
> Yes, I use one all the time. The problem is usually the receiver, the Well=
brook will easily overload even the best receivers with broadcast signals as=
 most don't have any front-end selectivity below 1.6MHz. Try a 500kHz tuned=20=
circuit between the loop and the RX.
>=20
> Dave.
>=20
> 2009/6/10 tim hague <m0afj@dsl.pipex.com <mailto:m0afj@dsl.pipex.com>>
>=20
>=A0 =A0=A0=A0I've got a ALA 1530 Wellbrook Loop, is anyone using one of the=
se
>=A0 =A0=A0=A0for 500kHz monitoring?, although I can hear NDB's nothing on 5=
00kHz.
>=20
>=A0 =A0=A0=A0Tim M0AFJ
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> -- G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK
Thanks Dave, I'll have a go, just for interest, how have you got yours mount=
ed?, do you find you need a rotator?

Best Regards

Tim M0AFJ




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<DIV>Try:-</DIV>
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=3D"http://groups.yahoo.com/group/loopantennas;_ylc=3DX3oDMTJlNjltdm4xBF9TAz=
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<DIV><A href=3D"http://uk.mc281.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3Dloopantennas@=
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as@yahoogroups.com">loopantennas@yahoogroups.com</A></DIV>
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<DIV>Loads of info there!!</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>73 petefmt</DIV>
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<DIV>On <B>Wed, 10/6/09, tim hague <I>&lt;m0afj@dsl.pipex.com&gt;</I></B> wr=
ote:<BR><BR>From: tim hague &lt;m0afj@dsl.pipex.com&gt;<BR>Subject: Re: LF:=20=
Re Welbrook Loops<BR>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR>Date: Wednesday, 10=
 June, 2009, 9:47 AM<BR><BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5p=
x; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px">
<DIV class=3DplainMail>Dave Pick wrote:<BR>&gt; Tim<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Yes, I=20=
use one all the time. The problem is usually the receiver, the Wellbrook wil=
l easily overload even the best receivers with broadcast signals as most don=
't have any front-end selectivity below 1.6MHz. Try a 500kHz tuned circuit b=
etween the loop and the RX.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Dave.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; 2009/6/1=
0 tim hague &lt;<A href=3D"http://uk.mc281.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3Dm0=
afj@dsl.pipex.com" rel=3Dnofollow target=3D_blank>m0afj@dsl.pipex.com</A> &l=
t;mailto:<A href=3D"http://uk.mc281.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3Dm0afj@dsl=
.pipex.com" rel=3Dnofollow target=3D_blank>m0afj@dsl.pipex.com</A>&gt;&gt;<B=
R>&gt; <BR>&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I've got a ALA 1530 Wellbrook Loop,=20=
is anyone using one of these<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;for 500kHz moni=
toring?, although I can hear NDB's nothing on 500kHz.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;&nbsp;=
 &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Tim M0AFJ<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;
 -- G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK<BR>Thanks Dave, I'll have a go, just for inte=
rest, how have you got yours mounted?, do you find you need a rotator?<BR><B=
R>Best Regards<BR><BR>Tim M0AFJ<BR><BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></DIV></td><=
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Gary - G4WGT wrote:
> Pedro, LF,
>
> Seeing some weak traces on 503 kHz, it may be ON7WP ??
>
> G
>

I too can see a signal on 503kHz - not audible yet but clearly visible 
on the FFT.

73

Richard
IO83wg


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Mal, It might just be worth remembering that the original pioneers knew
absolutely "zilch" about the science, art or technology we now use. The
"expertise" some of us claim is based on an almost stone age past. Bits
of wire inserted into pieces of coke, Tesla coils and arcs, electric
light bulbs with extra bits of wire, jam jars with foil liners, bottles
of acid with lumps of zinc and lead, G9BF running 8 parallel 807
connected to the DC mains overheads outside in the street?

A lot of us have been there and thankfully have moved on despite our
nostalgic yearnings for our Teddyboy, Mods'n'Rocker, Duffle-coated,
Luminescent ankle socks past (a few of us even stood by our beds and
said "Yes Corporal")!

The science is still the same but the techniques and methodology have
moved on. After you've gone there will still be guys doing radio in some
form or other and, rest assured, they will still be following the same
old footsteps - because they have to - physics doesn't change.

As an example I just spent an hour or two fixing a 1 Ghz counter - with
a multimeter - not "rocket science" - just "where did the volts go?".
Same old rules - same old answers!
An electrolytic or two later, we're up and running!

So, the modern generation use the internet etc,? Well, sod it! So did I
- to get the manual that gave me the gen. to fix the counter!

Your grapes must have the sourest taste on this group if not on the
whole internet. I wonder if you've tried them with litmus paper or
perhaps (and God forbid the scientific diatribe we might get) a pH
meter? 
  73 de Pat G4gvw

On Sat, 2009-06-20 at 19:09 +0100, mal hamilton wrote:
> Sri 
> Beaming East in DX mode
> mal/g3kev
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Richard Newstead" <g3cwi@btconnect.com>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 6:33 PM
> Subject: Re: LF: amateur radio
> 
> 
> > mal hamilton wrote:
> >>  no one in QSO mode.
> > 
> > 
> > I called CQ several times. You are simply not trying hard enough.
> > 
> > 73
> > 
> > Richard
> > G3CWI
> >
> 



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Hi Warren,Lf
capture XGJ
Henny pa3cpm
73s
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XGJ 18-06.jpg

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Warren,Lf</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>capture XGJ</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Henny pa3cpm</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>73s</FONT></DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het volgende 
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Rik
WEBSDR is capable of receiving Broadasting stations running Megawatts - that 
is truely a MIRACLE !!!
g3kev

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rik Strobbe" <rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
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Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: LF: RE: webSDR


> Mal,
>
> depends on what you expect from it.
> At the Twente university the WEBSDR covers 8 frequency bands each
> 600kHz wide (ham bands from 1.8MHz up to 21MHz plus DC-600kHz) with a
> single ADC fed by a single antenna.
> For me that is a real masterpiece, even though the system is not
> optimized for 500kHz.
> As far as I have tested it works pretty good on HF and for LF/MF 
> broadcast.
> Just don't expect the same sensitivity from such a WEBSDR as from
> some grabbers dedicated to 500kHz.
>
> 73, Rik  ON7YD
>
> At 12:39 19/06/2009, you wrote:
>>WEBSDR is no good from what you have observed.
>>de G3KEV
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Rik Strobbe" <rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
>>To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>>Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 9:45 AM
>>Subject: Re: LF: RE: webSDR
>>
>>
>> > Hello Richard, all,
>> >
>> > I did some 500kHz tests last night with the Twente websdr:
>> > - I cannot hear or see my own signal on the websdr (abt. 1W ERP,
>> > distance 200km)
>> > - While I heard G3KEV 599+ here I could not hear or see on Mal on the
>> > websdr (distance G3KEV-me = 510km, distance G3KEV-Twente = 540km)
>> > I guess a W3DZZ dipole is not the perfect antenna for 600m.
>> >
>> > The above is not meant to criticize the WEBSDR project of the Twente
>> > university (all respect for this masterpiece), just to inform that
>> > one shouldn't panic it your 500kHz signal doesn't show up.
>> >
>> > 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
>> >
>> > At 22:29 18/06/2009, you wrote:
>> >>Amazing!
>> >>
>> >>I heard a couple of NDBs, "LAA" and "LI". You can also see what
>> >>frequencies
>> >>the other users are using, which is interesting in a curious way!
>> >>
>> >>73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
>> >>
>> >>-----Original Message-----
>> >>From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>> >>[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Richard 
>> >>Newstead
>> >>Sent: 18 June 2009 10:09
>> >>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>> >>Subject: LF: webSDR
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>Now covers LF/MF:
>> >>
>> >>http://websdr.ewi.utwente.nl:8901/
>> >>
>> >>73
>> >>
>> >>Richard
>> >>G3CWI
>> > DZZ
>> >
>> >
>>
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Hugh,

> I've got a record by them

Yes and their 1973 hit "Step into a Dream" was used in British
television commercials for Butlins' holiday camps.
--=20
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                WD2XGJ
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On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 7:36 PM, Hugh M0WYE<m0wye@radiouk.com> wrote:
, it was in the charts about 1973.
> Hugh M0WYE
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: mal hamilton
> To: rsgb
> Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 8:05 PM
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> I remember a radio station on HF SSB years ago WHITE PLAINS. Where=A0is=
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> located, somewhere in the USA.
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Hi Rik that would work quite well, there were some parameters for the
resonators at 4MHz discussed on the emrfd group recently. The parameter
measurement methosd are the same, but they were using the resonators for
"VXOs".

 I used measurements suggested by Jack Harcastle GJIR. If you are designing
for a 3 to 4kHz BW then you could aim at a much higher filter impedance
which makes it all a bit easier.

Alan G3NYK
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Hello Alan,

thanks for the info.
What I had in mind was a 501-504kHz filter so not
as narrow as the 800Hz filter you designed.
And as an input filter I wouldn't care about 10dB
(or even more) insertion loss as I always have a
20dB attenuator between antenna and RX.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

At 15:38 15/06/2009, you wrote:
>Hi Rick there is a problem building a sharp ladder filter with 500 or 455
>kHz resonators. I have played with a number. the difficulty seems to stem
>from the fact that to get a narow filter you have to design for a filter
>impedance of around 250 to 300ohms. then when you conside the ESR of the
>resonators of say 40 to 70 ohms and 5 in series you have a lot of loss
>through the filter. The best I managed at 455khz was about 800Hz pass band,
>but a lot of insertion loss. I think a more promising format is to use the
>resonators in shunt (parrallel resonance) with top coupling. I think the
>late Jan Noedling  LA2AK had some information on his web pages which I
>believe are still available. I have not tried that yet.
>
>Rapid Electronics does wire ended ceramic resonators for between 10p and
20p
>(exVAT)each in singles and discounts lots of 25  by a further 10% or more.
>No Min order but 3 postage on oders less that 30
>www.rapidonline.com
>Best Wishes
>Alan G3NYK
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Rik Strobbe" <rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
>To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 2:10 PM
>Subject: Re: LF: 500 kHz resonators at nedis.com
>
>
> > Pedro,
> >
> > I have a VXO with a 4MHz ceramic resonator. That signal is divided by
> > 8. Range is 500.5 - 506kHz.
> > see
> > http://wireless.org.uk/500k_tx.gif
> > http://wireless.org.uk/qtx.htm
> >
> > 4MHz cer. resonators are available at less than 1 Euro in almost
> > every electronic shop.
> >
> > 500kHz cer. resonators however could be interesting to build a sharp
> > RX-input filter (cfr xtal ladder filter)
> >
> > 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
> >
> >
> > At 14:50 15/06/2009, you wrote:
> > >Hello group,
> > >
> > >I just discovered that the European grossist for electronic parts has
> > >500 kc ceramic resonators in their range for less than half a Euro.
> > >this is a great building block for a tunable 500 kHz transmitter.  I
> > >ordered some for test purposes to see how far they can e pulled.
> > >Unfortunately they don't sell direct to customers, only to retailers.
> > >
> > >
> > >Pedro
> > >
> > >www.nedis.com
> >
> >





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My beacon on 503.7kHz is back on.  04/19/34/49 minutes past the hour
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Good signal again from SAQ in Nuernberg around 09:00, using SPM-3 selective level meter. QRN is now starting to build up again.

73 and a nice weekend,
Markus

DF6NM in JN59NK




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Hello Henny , LF ,
Within sight of the signal on the grabber ,
I think that it is a test of Nicolas (F4DTL)
or Claude (F8BOJ)
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henny van elst a =E9crit :
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I wonder if anyone has attempted to plot the diurnal noise levels on 
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particularly quiet?

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http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz?hl=en 

On the above site there is a design by GW3UEP for complete cw transmitters
25w and 50/80w using 8mhz resonators.  The osc/driver (501/504khz)

 is contained in a 4060 cmos chip and is adequately stable for cw work. Last
time I bought the 8mhz resonators they were 2p ea. From Rapid Electronics.

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Mike GW4HXO.

 

 


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Hello Neils
Nice to hear u on 500 and I am QRV every day. Let me know when u are in QSO=20=
mode.
mal/g3kev

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: niels rudberg j=F8rgensen=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 7:06 PM
  Subject: LF: OZ now on 500 kHz


  Hello LF-Group!
  Less than a week ago I received an experimental permit
  for 501-504 kHz and 20 W ERP.
  Test transmissions this afternoon for field strength
  measurements were received by Mal/G3KEV and John/
  GM4SLV. Thanks were much to both of you for the=20
  reports.
  My TX power was 80 watts, the antenna current 2.5 A
  and I estimate the ERP to be about 1.5 Watts.
  Soon I will be in a qso mode and I look forward to=20
  having some to-way CW-qso=B4s.
  73
  Niels / OZ8NJ+

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hello Neils</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Nice to hear u on 500 and I am QRV every da=
y. Let=20
me know when u are in QSO mode.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>mal/g3kev</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV     style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black=
"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dniels.rudberg@post.tele.dk     href=3D"mailto:niels.rudberg@pos=
t.tele.dk">niels rudberg j=F8rgensen</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacks=
heep.org     href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blac=
ksheep.org</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, June 20, 2009 7:06=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: OZ now on 500 kHz</DIV=
>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hello LF-Group!</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Less than a week ago I&nbsp;received an=20
  experimental permit</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>for 501-504 kHz and 20 W ERP.</FONT></DIV=
>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Test transmissions this afternoon for fie=
ld=20
  strength</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>measurements were&nbsp;received by Mal/G3=
KEV and=20
  John/</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>GM4SLV. Thanks were much to both of you f=
or the=20
  </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>reports.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>My TX power was 80 watts, the antenna cur=
rent 2.5=20
  A</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>and I estimate the ERP to be about 1.5=20
  Watts.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Soon I will be in a&nbsp;qso mode and I l=
ook=20
  forward to </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>having some to-way CW-qso=B4s.</FONT></DI=
V>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Niels /=20
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Hi Jean-Pierre,

  Thanks for the capture.
Yes very bad weather with thunderstorms predicted the next several days.
--=20
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
                WE2XEB/2
                WE2XGR/1





On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 3:56 AM, "Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9
(F1AFJ)"<jpm.f1afj@online.fr> wrote:
> bad capture , sry !
>
> Hi Warren , LF ,
>
> Just a short test at 01:20 =A0( many stormy last night )
>
> 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj
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>
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Nice qrss3 signal from F8BOJ, about 1 uV/m here. Captured at 13:06z on 137.7=
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73 es good luck

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DF6NM in JN59NK

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Nice qrss3 signal from F8BOJ, about&nbsp;1=20=
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At 1040 - 1045z, received "_." followed by "J" at 20dB over noise.  Argo
set to 30s dotts.

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I hope not. No more unattended QRM please
g3kev

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> Thank's Andy
>
> Its been a very interesting facility ,
>
> May be one of the  EI stations could run in one of the  time slots over
> night to  give a east  west  plot ? ,
>
> Tnx- Graham .
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Andy Talbot" <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 10:38 AM
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> Subject: LF: 503.7kHz - its back
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>>
>> My beacon on 503.7kHz is back on.  04/19/34/49 minutes past the hour
>> ~+25dBm EIRP.  Callsign, power steps, full power carrier 25 - 30
>> seconds then PSK31 from :30s
>>
>>
>> Andy
>> www.g4jnt.com
>>
>>
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>
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THE VOICE FOR INFORMATION AND EDUCATION - - - VOA

  ----- Original Message -----=20
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        Hi LF Group

        I think that must have been, or still is a big TX site because=
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        73 petefmt

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          From: Hugh M0WYE <m0wye@radiouk.com>
          Subject: LF: Re: WHITE PLAINS
          To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
          Date: Sunday, 28 June, 2009, 12:36 AM


          I've got a record by them, it was in the charts about 1973.
          Hugh M0WYE
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            I remember a radio station on HF SSB years ago WHITE PLAIN=
S. Where is that located, somewhere in the USA.
            De mal/g3kev
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During my sea-going days it was quite common for marine R/T stations to 
transmit a loop tape for a period when a ship called so that the ship's 
R/O could accurately tune his SSB receiver for link calls. The coast 
station operator would then call the ship and the link call or whatever 
could then be set up. Sydney/VIS used to come back with something like: 
'This is the Eastern terminal of the Australian Overseas 
Telecommunications Commission". Not sure about White Plains though. The 
AT&T marine R/T station in that area was WOO at Ocean Gate which I think 
was somewhere near Cape Cod. Maybe White Plains was a point -to-point 
operation.

73

Ian, G4EXD






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Mal,

depends on what you expect from it.
At the Twente university the WEBSDR covers 8 frequency bands each 
600kHz wide (ham bands from 1.8MHz up to 21MHz plus DC-600kHz) with a 
single ADC fed by a single antenna.
For me that is a real masterpiece, even though the system is not 
optimized for 500kHz.
As far as I have tested it works pretty good on HF and for LF/MF broadcast.
Just don't expect the same sensitivity from such a WEBSDR as from 
some grabbers dedicated to 500kHz.

73, Rik  ON7YD

At 12:39 19/06/2009, you wrote:
>WEBSDR is no good from what you have observed.
>de G3KEV
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Rik Strobbe" <rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
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>Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 9:45 AM
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>
>
> > Hello Richard, all,
> >
> > I did some 500kHz tests last night with the Twente websdr:
> > - I cannot hear or see my own signal on the websdr (abt. 1W ERP,
> > distance 200km)
> > - While I heard G3KEV 599+ here I could not hear or see on Mal on the
> > websdr (distance G3KEV-me = 510km, distance G3KEV-Twente = 540km)
> > I guess a W3DZZ dipole is not the perfect antenna for 600m.
> >
> > The above is not meant to criticize the WEBSDR project of the Twente
> > university (all respect for this masterpiece), just to inform that
> > one shouldn't panic it your 500kHz signal doesn't show up.
> >
> > 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
> >
> > At 22:29 18/06/2009, you wrote:
> >>Amazing!
> >>
> >>I heard a couple of NDBs, "LAA" and "LI". You can also see what
> >>frequencies
> >>the other users are using, which is interesting in a curious way!
> >>
> >>73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> >>[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Richard Newstead
> >>Sent: 18 June 2009 10:09
> >>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
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> >>
> >>Now covers LF/MF:
> >>
> >>http://websdr.ewi.utwente.nl:8901/
> >>
> >>73
> >>
> >>Richard
> >>G3CWI
> > DZZ
> >
> >
>
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Hello Warren, LF!
That is FB news, thank you for it! I will apply for a new permission last=
 month. I hope, that all will be OK. OK0EMW is on the air every night. But=
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73!

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

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> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 13:53:29 -0400
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>=20
> The FCC has just renewed  WD2XGJ for another 5 years!
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Hello Warren, LF!<br>That is FB news, thank you for it! I will apply for=
 a new permission last month. I hope, that all will be OK. OK0EMW is on th=
e air every night. But it depens on the weather, of course. <br><br>73!<br=
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********<br><br>&gt; Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 13:53:29 -0400<br>&gt; From:=
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Good night to all,

Anybody would have any experience on the use of IGBT in 136 KHz amplif=
iers?
Thanks in advance!
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Dear Jim,

Just audible here, about RST 229 at about 2050utc on 502.65kHz.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU

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> Dear All,
>
> G7NKS active on 503KHz at 21.20 BST/20.20 UTC  sending CW @ 5wpm   "CQ 
> Test
> de G7NKS"



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Alan Melia wrote:
> Hi Richard,
> I think the noise variation is very similar to that on 136k 

Hi Alan

Thanks for the analysis. I was actually thinking more of locally 
generated electrical noise - hence the reference to Sundays. I recall 
doing some test with Peter G3PLX years ago. We conducted them on 
Christmas Day in the hope that some propagated industrial noise would be 
less. That was HF not MF though.

73

Richard
G3CWI




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Gary - G4WGT wrote:
> Pedro, LF,
>
> Seeing some weak traces on 503 kHz, it may be ON7WP ??
>
>   
>

2030z the cw is now audible and readable by ear here. Weak at present.

73

Richard
G3CWI



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Hi All,

 

Just a line or two for the followers of the G4JNT 505.7kHz beacon to explain
the erratic signal & noise levels recently on the beacon grabber chart.

 

Over the past few days I have been working on my antenna system. This was to
carry out repairs & improvements to the top load on my LF/MF vertical since
the damage due to the gales in the early part of the year.

 

The raising & lowering etc of the mast & antenna has had an adverse effect
on the Mini-Whip active antenna used for the reception of the beacon which
is also installed on the mast.

 

The work is now completed & I feel that anyone who is following the beacon
data chart will now see an un-interrupted chart apart from the times when I
use the LF/MF antenna for my own transmitting arrangements. This is usually
announced on the grabber page.

 

73,

 

Gary - G4WGT - IO83QO.

 


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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font>=
</b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Just a line or two for the foll=
owers of the
G4JNT 505.7kHz beacon to explain the erratic signal &amp; noise levels recen=
tly
on the beacon grabber chart.<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font>=
</b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Over the past few days I have b=
een working
on my antenna system. This was to carry out repairs &amp; improvements to th=
e top
load on my LF/MF vertical since the damage due to the gales in the early par=
t
of the year.<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font>=
</b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>The raising &amp; lowering etc=20=
of the mast
&amp; antenna has had an adverse effect on the Mini-Whip active antenna used
for the reception of the beacon which is also installed on the mast.<o:p></o=
:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font>=
</b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>The work is now completed &amp;=
 I feel that
anyone who is following the beacon data chart will now see an un-interrupted
chart apart from the times when I use the LF/MF antenna for my own transmitt=
ing
arrangements. This is usually announced on the grabber page.<o:p></o:p></spa=
n></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font>=
</b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><strong><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'f=
ont-size: 12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>73,</span></font></b></strong><o:p></o:p=
></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'=
font-size: 12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><strong><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'f=
ont-size: 12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Gary - G4WGT - IO83QO.</span></font></b>=
</strong><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'=
font-size: 12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

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Amazing!

I heard a couple of NDBs, "LAA" and "LI". You can also see what frequencies
the other users are using, which is interesting in a curious way!

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Richard Newstead
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Now covers LF/MF:

http://websdr.ewi.utwente.nl:8901/

73

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There is a description of the WSPR encoding process at
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Dear All
Polish military NDB beacon NK (KN) active now 494kHz.
QTH: JO94?? Mode AM.
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Vy 73!
Marcin SQ2BXI

> Dear All,
>
> G7NKS active on 503KHz at 21.20 BST/20.20 UTC  sending CW @ 5wpm   "CQ
Test
> de G7NKS"
>
> Thanks for any reports
>
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> Jim
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Tim
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Try:-

Loop Antenna News and Information F

loopantennas@yahoogroups.com
=A0
Loads of info there!!
=A0
73 petefmt
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On Wed, 10/6/09, tim hague <m0afj@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:

From: tim hague <m0afj@dsl.pipex.com>
Subject: Re: LF: Re Welbrook Loops
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Wednesday, 10 June, 2009, 9:47 AM



Dave Pick wrote:
> Tim
>=20
> Yes, I use one all the time. The problem is usually the receiver, the Well=
brook will easily overload even the best receivers with broadcast signals as=
 most don't have any front-end selectivity below 1.6MHz. Try a 500kHz tuned=20=
circuit between the loop and the RX.
>=20
> Dave.
>=20
> 2009/6/10 tim hague <m0afj@dsl.pipex.com <mailto:m0afj@dsl.pipex.com>>
>=20
>=A0 =A0=A0=A0I've got a ALA 1530 Wellbrook Loop, is anyone using one of the=
se
>=A0 =A0=A0=A0for 500kHz monitoring?, although I can hear NDB's nothing on 5=
00kHz.
>=20
>=A0 =A0=A0=A0Tim M0AFJ
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> -- G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK
Thanks Dave, I'll have a go, just for interest, how have you got yours mount=
ed?, do you find you need a rotator?

Best Regards

Tim M0AFJ




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<DIV>Tim</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Try:-</DIV>
<DIV><BR><A style=3D"COLOR: #fff; FONT-SIZE: 136%; FONT-WEIGHT: bold" href=
=3D"http://groups.yahoo.com/group/loopantennas;_ylc=3DX3oDMTJlNjltdm4xBF9TAz=
k3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzEyODUxOTEwBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwODM5NjM3OQRzZWMDaGRyBHNsawNocG=
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ONT color=3D#000000>Loop Antenna News and Information</FONT> F</FONT></A></D=
IV>
<DIV><BR><A href=3D"http://uk.mc281.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3Dloopanten=
nas@yahoogroups.com" rel=3Dnofollow target=3D_blank ymailto=3D"mailto:loopan=
tennas@yahoogroups.com">loopantennas@yahoogroups.com</A></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Loads of info there!!</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>73 petefmt</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>On <B>Wed, 10/6/09, tim hague <I>&lt;m0afj@dsl.pipex.com&gt;</I></B> wr=
ote:<BR><BR>From: tim hague &lt;m0afj@dsl.pipex.com&gt;<BR>Subject: Re: LF:=20=
Re Welbrook Loops<BR>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR>Date: Wednesday, 10=
 June, 2009, 9:47 AM<BR><BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5p=
x; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px">
<DIV class=3DplainMail>Dave Pick wrote:<BR>&gt; Tim<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Yes, I=20=
use one all the time. The problem is usually the receiver, the Wellbrook wil=
l easily overload even the best receivers with broadcast signals as most don=
't have any front-end selectivity below 1.6MHz. Try a 500kHz tuned circuit b=
etween the loop and the RX.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Dave.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; 2009/6/1=
0 tim hague &lt;<A href=3D"http://uk.mc281.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3Dm0=
afj@dsl.pipex.com" rel=3Dnofollow target=3D_blank>m0afj@dsl.pipex.com</A> &l=
t;mailto:<A href=3D"http://uk.mc281.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3Dm0afj@dsl=
.pipex.com" rel=3Dnofollow target=3D_blank>m0afj@dsl.pipex.com</A>&gt;&gt;<B=
R>&gt; <BR>&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I've got a ALA 1530 Wellbrook Loop,=20=
is anyone using one of these<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;for 500kHz moni=
toring?, although I can hear NDB's nothing on 500kHz.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;&nbsp;=
 &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Tim M0AFJ<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;
 -- G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK<BR>Thanks Dave, I'll have a go, just for inte=
rest, how have you got yours mounted?, do you find you need a rotator?<BR><B=
R>Best Regards<BR><BR>Tim M0AFJ<BR><BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></DIV></td><=
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Good evening Gus,

Again solid copy ur SSB / CW transmission in JN59LN this evening!!!
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Tim

Yes, I use one all the time. The problem is usually the receiver, the
Wellbrook will easily overload even the best receivers with broadcast
signals as most don't have any front-end selectivity below 1.6MHz. Try a
500kHz tuned circuit between the loop and the RX.

Dave.

2009/6/10 tim hague <m0afj@dsl.pipex.com>

> I've got a ALA 1530 Wellbrook Loop, is anyone using one of these for 500kHz
> monitoring?, although I can hear NDB's nothing on 500kHz.
>
> Tim M0AFJ
>
>


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Tim<br><br>Yes, I use one all the time. The problem is usually the receiver,=
 the Wellbrook will easily overload even the best receivers with broadcast s=
ignals as most don&#39;t have any front-end selectivity below 1.6MHz. Try a=20=
500kHz tuned circuit between the loop and the RX.<br>
<br>Dave.<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/6/10 tim hague <span dir=
=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:m0afj@dsl.pipex.com">m0afj@dsl.pipex.com</a>&=
gt;</span><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px so=
lid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
I&#39;ve got a ALA 1530 Wellbrook Loop, is anyone using one of these for 500=
kHz monitoring?, although I can hear NDB&#39;s nothing on 500kHz.<br>
<br>
Tim M0AFJ<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham=20=
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Good signals from SAQ received here this morning. Signal was -83dBm, against
background noise of -94 dBm. Some QRN & static crashes.

Antenna is my regular 20m "tee" at 5m, RX is W&G SPM-30.

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Good night Markus and all,

Thank you for precision about IGBT. I thought that the rising generati=
ons of IGBT could help us to improve our equipment. In my job to use=
 IGBT time to time but to 100 KHz maximum (For example HGTG20N60). IGB=
T has lower conduction losses and smaller die aera at equilalent power=
. We are going to wait for the next generations therefore!  :0)

Vy 73 Markus,

Jeff, F6CWN



  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Markus Vester=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 8:05 PM
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  Dear Jeff,

  havn't actually tried it myself on 137 kHz. But from past experience=
 I'd say that while IGBTs may have less DC loss, they are much slower=
 (especially during turnoff). They can be used as effient switches at=
 some tens of kHz, whereas MOSFETs will easily go up to several MHz.

  Kind regards,
  Markus, DF6NM

    ----- Original Message -----=20
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    Good night to all,

    Anybody would have any experience on the use of IGBT in 136 KHz am=
plifiers?
    Thanks in advance!
    73: Jeff / F6CWN=20

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thank you for precision&nbsp;about IG=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Vy 73 Markus,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Jeff, F6CWN</FONT></DIV>
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z TX?</DIV>
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    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Good night to all,</FONT></DIV>
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    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Anybody would have any experience=
&nbsp;on the=20
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Gary - G4WGT wrote:
> Pedro. LF,
>
> ON7WP QRS signal last night at 2135utc.
>
>
>   
At 2130 ON7WP was 549. OR7T was 419. GW3UEP also 419. Gus (SM? I forget 
his call) was 569. I called many times but my TX will only QSY to 502.5 
so could not net - sorry.

73

Richard
G3CWI



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Yes . at  least hf will be open when it  runs out hihi

see what 'we can do  later in the  year , hopefully
fpr  will be linear by then on 500

 wx is warming  up in the  uk and the  rain showers are getting heaver

Not seen many static storms as such , may  be the
spots charge the  clouds  from the  top .. :)

G ..



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From: "Warren Ziegler" <wd2xgj@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 7:33 PM
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>
> Graham, Lubos,
>
>    Thank you for the comments, I'm not sure if sunspots are a good
> thing at LF - might cause more geomagnetic disturbances which could
> hurt propagation.
>    The weather has been very bad here, storms, rain, humidity and no=
=20
> sunshine!
>    Not good for operating.
>
> --=20
> 73 Warren K2ORS
>                WD2XGJ
>                WD2XSH/23
>                WE2XEB/2
>                WE2XGR/1
>
>
>
> 2009/6/25 Lubos OK2BVG <bvgbob@hotmail.com>:
>> Hello Warren, LF!
>> That is FB news, thank you for it! I will apply for a new permissio=
n last
>> month. I hope, that all will be OK. OK0EMW is on the air every nigh=
t. But=20
>> it
>> depens on the weather, of course.
>>
>> 73!
>>
>> Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS
>>
>> ************************************************
>>
>>> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 13:53:29 -0400
>>> From: wd2xgj@gmail.com
>>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; lowfer@mailman.qth.net
>>> Subject: LF: WD2XGJ
>>>
>>> The FCC has just renewed WD2XGJ for another 5 years!
>>>
>>> 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ
>>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> Bu=EFte v kontaktu se sv=FDmi p=F8=E1teli z Facebooku a Hotmailu Kl=
ikni zde!
>
>



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Hi Lubos ,
Thank you for the report , you receive my signal yesterday evening , or=20
this midday???
I made test this night and this day .
73 Jean-Pierre f1afj

Lubos OK2BVG a =E9crit :
> Hello Jean-Pierre, LF!
> Yes, I was surprised, the propagation was really good last night. I saw yo=
ur DFCW signal UFB as well.
>
> GL and 73!
>
> Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS
>
> *********************************
>
>  =20
>> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 13:25:17 +0200
>> From: jpm.f1afj@online.fr
>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>> Subject: Re: LF: XGJ
>>
>> Hello Warren , Lubos , Henny
>>
>> Very good conditions at this beginning of summer! we are in the longest=20
>> days !
>> the night is very short between Warren and Lubos . Cheer , beautiful=20
>> capture of
>> Warren , Lubos ! ( JN88ks =3D> FN42hi =3D 6519 km )
>>
>> 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj
>>
>> henny van elst a =E9crit :
>>  > Hi Warren,Lf
>>  > capture XGJ
>>  > Henny pa3cpm
>>  > 73s
>>
>> Lubos OK2BVG a =E9crit :
>>  > Hello Warren, LF!
>>  > I saw XGJ signal this morning. Thanks for your transmitting,=20
>> receiving was very interesting!
>>  > Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS
>>
>>
>>    =20
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Hi,Lf
Capture who?
Henny pa3cpm
best 73s
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Hello Jim, Finbar;  LF
 
Copied your QSO in regular CW Mode.

M0BMU, Jim:  about 339;
EI0CF, Finbar; about 449;

Vy 73 de Gerhard // DK6NI (in JN59LN)

======================









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Chris
Use a separate pwr supply for the fan, not the same supply that runs the FET=
S or driver ccts. This is what I do and never had a problem.
mal/g3kev

  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  LF,
  I've nearly completed my new PA for 500 kHz and have now managed to
  stop destroying FET's.

  Unfortunately I have an unusual problem in that the heatsink cooling fans
  are going U/S.

  I have used 24 volts brushless PC-type fans and after a while they
  either die completely or start to go backwards slowly. . .

  The fans may be slightly over-run but only by a volt or so and on key-up=20
  (unregulated supply) and are situated about 50 mm (2 inches) from the heat=
sink.
  I have rf decoupled them from the supply but maybe not well enough !

  Any suggestions in curing this problem would be most welcome.

  73 Chris G3XIZ




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  <DIV>I've nearly completed my new PA for 500 kHz and have now managed to</=
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  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Unfortunately I have an unusual problem in that the heatsink cooling=20
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  <DIV>are going U/S.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>I have used 24 volts brushless PC-type fans and after a while they</D=
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  <DIV>either die completely or start to go backwards slowly. . .</DIV>
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  <DIV>(unregulated supply) and are situated about 50 mm (2 inches) from the=
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Sri 
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> mal hamilton wrote:
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> 
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> I called CQ several times. You are simply not trying hard enough.
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> 73
> 
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test signal on air

reports appreciated on 3737 kHz (actually 3739 due to QRM...)

starting CQ for normal CW QSO on 19:00 utc and later

from 01:00 UTC CQ in QRSS 10

Pedro and team...



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Claude,

 

If you have not tried already, the VLF Group may be a good place to ask as
well.

 

Post message: VLF_Group@yahoogroups.com 
Subscribe:  VLF_Group-subscribe@yahoogroups.com

 

73,

 

Gary - G4WGT.

 

  _____  

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Claude Berthebaud
Sent: 25 June 2009 17:46
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: hello all...

 

hello all.

I'm looking for technical documentation Receiver Shwarzbeck
VLF LSME 1530A EMI information will be greatly appreciated 
Amicalement 
Claude F8boj

 

 


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Hello Perdo,  LF

I can copy your CW-Signal with about 449 and vy strong QRN in JN59LN.
Will send you a waterfall screenshot of your last two transmissions directly
to your mail address.

Vy 73 de Gerhard //  DK6NI

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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von Pedro M.J. Wyns
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Gesendet: Donnerstag, 11. Juni 2009 00:09
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Betreff: LF: ON7WP now testing on 503,000 kHz until 10:30 UTC

Hi folks,

I am currently (next half hour..) testing my transmit antenna in rainy=20
conditions to see wether my isolators catch fire or not ;-)

CW beacon every 10 seconds TEST de ON7WP JO21IC at 20 wpm, legal limit=20
off course...

Pedro ON7WP-AA9HX






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Andy, LF,

Unable to restart the 503.7kHz grabber at the moment due to usb sound card
failure.

Will be on as soon as a replacement card is available.

73

Gary - G4WGT.

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Andy Talbot
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My beacon on 503.7kHz is back on.  04/19/34/49 minutes past the hour
~+25dBm EIRP.  Callsign, power steps, full power carrier 25 - 30
seconds then PSK31 from :30s


Andy
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I just worked Finbar, 549 with lots of QSB and QRN
He is still calling on 501.5 (21:35UTC)

73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T
Quoting Richard Newstead <g3cwi@btconnect.com>:

> 501.05 now. Weak at present.




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James Cowburn wrote:
>  Sorry but I meant 502.5KHz
>
> Sending CQ Test on 5 mins cycles
>
> Thanx for any reports
>
>   
Nil in IO83wg





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Hello All,

 

This is to advise that Finbar EI0CF is hoping to operate fixed Portable on
501.050 khz from approx 11000 to 1400 BST on the 17th and 18th of June.
Location will be Shannon Harbour, near Banagher,  Co. Offaly.  Antenna in
use will be a  30  foot vertical, with 4 top hat wires, fed against the car
body and on the ground  16x 20 ft radial system  A Spiderbeam vertical whip
will be used for support.  Transmitter power will be between 10/30watts.
All subject to site suitability, weather etc.  The system has been tested
with a number of QSO's with GW3UEP.

Shannon Harbour is where the Grand Canal and River Shannon meet and close to
the centre point of the Island.  Reports and cw contacts will be
appreciated.

 

73

 

Mike GW4HXO

 


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Offaly.&nbsp; Antenna in use will be a &nbsp;30&nbsp; foot vertical, with 4=20=
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hat wires, fed against the car body and on the ground&nbsp; 16x 20 ft radial
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Transmitter power will be between 10/30watts.&nbsp; All subject to site
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Dear James and others,

Thanks for your very interesting post. A couple of comments.


> Since the wire mesh would be quite a convenient earth system to use for an
antenna over a paved area, or on rocky ground, I tried laying it on the
concrete driveway:

The mesh might not be as good on a rocky hilltop. There is probably conducti=
ve soil under only 10cm or so of concrete drive, whereas a mountain may be i=
nsulating rock all the way down to Old Nick.



> For portable antennas, it is often difficult to drive long ground rods int=
o
the earth. It seems that short ground spikes, like the tent pegs, or
metallic conductors laid on the surface of the ground, do not make a very
good ground connection.=20

Have you tried arrays of tent pegs? We meet the same problem with cave radio=
 - it's normally done on limestone, with very shallow soil, and driving long=
 spikes in is virtually impossible. What does work well is (say) half a doze=
n tent pegs connected together. It doesn't seem to matter much whether they=20=
are in a straight line, a circle or whatever, as long as they are far enough=
 apart. There are recommendations for the minimum separation, which I forget=
, but keeping them a couple of peg lengths apart should be adequate.



For mountain top experiments, there is one comparison which might be worth t=
rying. One of our cave radio people noticed years ago that Loran reception w=
as far weaker on peat than on bare limestone. Since she said this, I've ofte=
n noticed that it's far weaker on deep soil than on the thin soil over limes=
tone. Cave radio aerials are completely different from yours, so I'm not sug=
gesting the difference would be in the same direction. My guess is that you'=
d get a better aerial on (ideally wet) peat than on bare rock.


73,
Chris G4OKW



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Mal,

   A good BC-348 is hard to find here. Many have been cannibalized for
parts and ruinous modifications have been performed on them!  Thirty
five years ago I myself through my BC-348 in the dust bin rather than
fix it! (I am sorry now!)  I would suggest looking at EBay.

-- 
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
                WE2XEB/2
                WE2XGR/1

On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 2:34 PM, mal hamilton<g3kevmal@talktalk.net> wrote:
> Still looking for a BC 348 there must be thousands scattered across the USA.
> De mal/g3kev
>


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> already :-))
>
>
> Hi Alan,
>
>   there is no danger.... I am sure you are familiar with that famous
> article of Edsger Dijkstra...
>
> Edsger W. Dijkstra observed in *Selected Writings on Computing: A Personal
> Perspective* that
>
> =93*It is practically impossible to teach good programming style to studen=
ts
> that have had prior
> exposure to BASIC: as potential programmers they are mentally mutilated
> beyond hope of regeneration.*=94
>
>
> :-) :-)
>
>
> 73  Alberto  I2PHD
>
>

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<div>... haven&#39;t used a GOTO or GOSUB for many a year now ...</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>Not in Basic anyway.=A0 PIC assembler is a different matter.</div>
<div><br clear=3D"all">Andy =A0G4JNT<br>wobbleU cubed .g4jnt.kom<br><br><br>=
</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/6/14 Alberto di Bene <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<=
a href=3D"mailto:dibene@usa.net">dibene@usa.net</a>&gt;</span><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0p=
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<div text=3D"#000066" bgcolor=3D"#ffffff">Alan Melia wrote:=20
<blockquote type=3D"cite"><pre>Now Now Alberto dont encourage him. I am sure=
 Andy has enough bad habits
already :-))
  </pre></blockquote>Hi Alan,<br><br>=A0 there is no danger.... I am sure yo=
u are familiar with that famous article of Edsger Dijkstra...<br><br><a>Edsg=
er W. Dijkstra observed in <u><i>Selected Writings on Computing: A Personal=20=
Perspective</i></u> that <br>
<br>=93<b><i><span>It is practically impossible to teach good programming st=
yle to students that have had prior <br>exposure to BASIC: as potential prog=
rammers they are mentally mutilated beyond hope of regeneration.</span></i><=
/b>=94 </a><br>
<br><br><span><span>:-) </span></span><span><span>:-) </span></span><br><br>=
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Jim,

An interesting  investigation,

Last  year i bonded everything  that conducted in the  back garden to the 
main earth bus bar in the shed, from short 6 ft alloy 2 inch scaffold pipes 
that hold  the  plants in ,  5 feet in the ground, to a 6 ft I section 
girder  that holds the mast and 2 10 foot  poles flush  in the ground

All of the pipes are connected with  insulated 35 amp 7 stranded wire , 
using a rf  ammeter it was possible to observe each earth 'working' .

Out of all, the  I section beam ( 10 inch x 6)  gave the  biggest reading , 
odd as the ground in that place is actually  covered and is quite dry, but 
this has the greater surface area , the pipes all gave  similar  results, 
but  round only  50 to  75% of the beam

Even though the  mains earth had 'always been connected , this re-work did 
improve the radiated signal on 500 and with a feed round 20 watts on 160 
mtrs an increase of 4 watts could be measured on the power meter

I would  assume this to be mainly  due to  reduced  local  I sqr R losses , 
in end feeding the top loaded vertical , but did show a positive result ,

Ive only  worked Hf portable , to  date, but I have  all ways made use of a 
handy  wire fence !

Tnx- G ..



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>
> Dear Chris, Laurie, Richard, LF Group,
>
> Thanks for the replies. Re the comments:
>
> G4OKW wrote:
>>...The mesh might not be as good on a rocky hilltop. There is probably
>>conductive soil under only 10cm or so of concrete drive, whereas a 
>>mountain
>>may be insulating rock all the way down to Old Nick....
>
> I agree - I don't think the wire mesh would neccessarily improve the 
> ground
> losses, but compared to the radial wires it gives similar performance in a
> quite compact form, which could well be an advantage in itself.
>
>>... Have you tried arrays of tent pegs?
>
> No, I limited myself to one per radial. My thought was that for portable
> operation with a vertical antenna, it would probably be easier just to add
> some more radials, while for fixed station use full-length ground rods 
> work
> better, and are probably less affected by the surface soil drying out. For
> the ground-loop type of antenna used for cave radio, I can see the array 
> of
> tent pegs would be a good idea.
>
> G3AQC wrote:
> ...> does seem to support my findings that the Mains/water pipes take most
> of the current,
> making all the work on radials earth rods etc a bit of a waste of time...
>
> The ground systems I tried are more-or-less insulated from the ground, so
> are coupled to the ground mainly by their capacitance, which has a
> relatively high reactance compared to their resistance. A ground rod on 
> the
> end of a considerable length of wire probably has a substantial inductive
> reactance compared to its resistance, due to the inductance of the wire.
> Either way, even though they may have low resistance, the overall 
> impedance
> of these grounds will be relatively high compared to a ground with a short
> connection to the return terminal of the TX or ATU, and so little current
> will flow in them.
>
>>...I would need to series resonate with a capacitor, value depending of
>>course on my particular system..... but did you say that the reactance was
>>capacitive ?
>
> The insulated radials, etc. have a capacitive reactance - the individual
> wires on the ground were roughly equivalent to 28pF/m. So these would
> require a tuning inductance to neutralise their reactance. For ground 
> rods,
> or buried bare-wire radials, I expect the reactance would be more 
> inductive,
> so a tuning capacitance would be required. Since we are talking about
> nanofarads of capacitance, or perhaps 10s of uH of inductance for the 
> ground
> systems, the tuning components required would be fairly small
> inductance/large capacitance.
>
> G3CWI wrote:
>>...I am intrigued about loaded radials in that the loading is effectively
>>supplied by the inductor in the ATU circuit. There was no sign that such 
>>an
>>approach worked on my last trip but possibly the inductance was
>>insufficient...
>
> The reactance of the radials adds to the total capacitive reactance of the
> antenna, so more inductance is needed to resonate the antenna. According 
> to
> your previous mail, you had somewhere around 60m of radials, giving an
> additional reactance of roughly 200ohms on top of perhaps 900 ohms for the
> 200ft long antenna. So the increase in overall tuning inductance required
> would have been quite large.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
>
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Hello LF-Group!
Less than a week ago I received an experimental permit
for 501-504 kHz and 20 W ERP.
Test transmissions this afternoon for field strength
measurements were received by Mal/G3KEV and John/
GM4SLV. Thanks were much to both of you for the=20
reports.
My TX power was 80 watts, the antenna current 2.5 A
and I estimate the ERP to be about 1.5 Watts.
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Test transmissions this afternoon for field=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>measurements were&nbsp;received by Mal/G3KE=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>GM4SLV. Thanks were much to both of you for=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>reports.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>My TX power was 80 watts, the antenna curre=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>and I estimate the ERP to be about 1.5=20
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forward to </FONT></DIV>
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Hello Nicolas and group lf=20
Your signal is very qro here thank you for this first qso on 137 khz=
 controles and pics are welcome thank you=20
Regards
Claude F8boj


  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: F4DTL@aol.com=20
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  Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 10:24 AM
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  Many thanx Claude for this first and nice contact with you.
  Strong signal here FB !!!

  F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP
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  <DIV>Strong signal here FB !!!</DIV>
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John , Warren ,

Good copy of yours beacon last night  .

73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj


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Hello James and the group!

Thanks for the reply. Unfortunately I can't copy your signal in the
moment, let's hope for the evening/night.

I'm using my shortwave-antenna, a 55m long endfed wire in about 12m
height as antenna for lf. it's connected to the unsymmetrical input of
the Selective Level Meter. I think using this antenna is the first
problem. Another one ist that I don't have a preamp yet. The 2nd antenna
is a resonant frame antenna with about 1m diameter. Unfortunately I
haven't managed to bring it outside somehow and so I'm using it in the
shack which gives me a lot of QRM, especially from the tube-monitor
(n*75Hz vert. frequenzy).

The Level Meter only has a 22Hz and a 3.1khz filter. I just can use the
3.1 filter which gaves me lot of QRM from DCF39. I have tuned to 137.15
becasue I found that this qrg is quiet (-107dbm) compared to some 100Hz
up and down where the noise level is up to -92dbm. I think this noise is
produced by the carrier of DCF39 somehow.

As you may have noticed, I'm a LF beginner and it seems I have to work
on the sensitivity of my equipment. I'm living 30km north of Vienna and
I think QRN and QRM is not so bad here.

Any suggestions welcome.

Thanks a lot
and 73 de OE3GHB

Gerhard Hickl



 


Am Sonntag, den 21.06.2009, 13:53 +0100 schrieb James Moritz:
> Dear Gerhard, LF Group,
> 
> I am currently (1242utc) transmitting a DFCW beacon signal on 137.680kHz, 
> with ERP of about 300mW. There is some QRN here, but band noise is not too 
> bad. QTH is just north of London at IO91vr. Previous experience indicates 
> you may see something in OE during daylight, but don't be suprised if you 
> have to wait until after dark to copy the signal. Any reports very welcome.
> 
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
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> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 12:12 PM
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> 
> 
> >
> > So if anybody is planning activity on 137 for today, please let me know.
> >
> > Tnx and 73
> >
> > de OE3GHB
> >
> > Gerhard
> >
> >
> > 
> 
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Hello Group!

@James: Thanks a lot. Built a L-filter and the sensitivity is now at
least 10db (maybe even more) better. -60dbm (instead of -50dbm) fed into
the same wire than before can now be seen clearly. I just had some
assembled ferrite rods for MW with coils less than 1mH and they didn't
work. Then I applied about 200 turns to a ferrite-rod and got a coil of
5,1 mH. With this coil and a 10-320pf capacitor, I was able to match the
impedance of the wire to the input of my RX. Thank you again for the
hint. The entire assembly is "bread-board style" for now with a lot of
"flying wires" and without any shielding.

@Heinz: Thanks a lot too. I have seen on the Internet, that OE5ODL is a
very active station on LF. I will get back to you for the schedule on
your personal address. 


For now, I'm waiting for James beacon which will hopefully appear on my
screen at 2000z.

Cheers and 73 de
OE3GHB

Gerhard Hickl




 



Am Sonntag, den 21.06.2009, 20:41 +0200 schrieb H Schnait:
> Hello Gerhard,
> 
> OE5ODL can put out a respectable signal whenever you want. I can help 
> set up a sked, if you reply to my email adress (just google my callsign).
> 
> 73 Heinz, OE5EEP
> 
> 
> Gerhard Hickl schrieb:
> > Hello James and the group!
> >
> > Thanks for the reply. Unfortunately I can't copy your signal in the
> > moment, let's hope for the evening/night.
> >
> > I'm using my shortwave-antenna, a 55m long endfed wire in about 12m
> > height as antenna for lf. it's connected to the unsymmetrical input of
> > the Selective Level Meter. I think using this antenna is the first
> > problem. Another one ist that I don't have a preamp yet. The 2nd antenna
> > is a resonant frame antenna with about 1m diameter. Unfortunately I
> > haven't managed to bring it outside somehow and so I'm using it in the
> > shack which gives me a lot of QRM, especially from the tube-monitor
> > (n*75Hz vert. frequenzy).
> >
> > The Level Meter only has a 22Hz and a 3.1khz filter. I just can use the
> > 3.1 filter which gaves me lot of QRM from DCF39. I have tuned to 137.15
> > becasue I found that this qrg is quiet (-107dbm) compared to some 100Hz
> > up and down where the noise level is up to -92dbm. I think this noise is
> > produced by the carrier of DCF39 somehow.
> >
> > As you may have noticed, I'm a LF beginner and it seems I have to work
> > on the sensitivity of my equipment. I'm living 30km north of Vienna and
> > I think QRN and QRM is not so bad here.
> >
> > Any suggestions welcome.
> >
> > Thanks a lot
> > and 73 de OE3GHB
> >
> > Gerhard Hickl
> >
> >   
> 
> 
> 



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Hi Jean-Pierre,
   Yes, and this winter I will try for another 3dB (8W ERP) if the
antenna can stand it!
--=20
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
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> Super ! We will have still time for play to jump the pond =A0!!!!! hi hi=
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> 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj
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> Warren Ziegler a =E9crit :
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>> The FCC has just renewed =A0WD2XGJ for another 5 years!
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I saw signal XGJ before sunrice in OK. Nice reception this morning.

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Hello LF,

 

sorry about the added old attachment within the first Mail-info..

 

73     Gerhard

 

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  _____  

Von: Beckmann, Gerhard [mailto:beckmann.erlangen@freenet.de] 
Gesendet: Samstag, 13. Juni 2009 23:09
An: 'rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org'
Cc: 'Chris Osborn'
Betreff: G3XIZ is calling CQ on 502.8

 

Hello Chris,  LF

 

Receiving your CQ-call in regular CW-Mode with about 449 here in JN59LN;

 

73     de Gerhard  // DK6NI

 

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Gerhard [mailto:beckmann.erlangen@freenet.de] <br>
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<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> 'Chris Osborn'<br>
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Ian,

  Ocean Gate is in New Jersey, not Cape Cod (which is in Massachusetts).

http://wikimapia.org/4673741/AT-T-High-Seas-Service-Radio-Station-Manahawkin-WOO

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On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 5:25 PM, Ian Marsh<i.marsh@virgin.net> wrote:
> During my sea-going days it was quite common for marine R/T stations to
> transmit a loop tape for a period when a ship called so that the ship's R/O
> could accurately tune his SSB receiver for link calls. The coast station
> operator would then call the ship and the link call or whatever could then
> be set up. Sydney/VIS used to come back with something like: 'This is the
> Eastern terminal of the Australian Overseas Telecommunications Commission".
> Not sure about White Plains though. The AT&T marine R/T station in that area
> was WOO at Ocean Gate which I think was somewhere near Cape Cod. Maybe White
> Plains was a point -to-point operation.
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Jim,

tonight my antenna is disconnected because of the thunder and  
lightning show above our heads.
I copied your beacon last night 529.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

Quoting James Moritz <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>:

> Dear LF Group,
>
> As art of continuing investigations into antennas, grounds, etc., I am
> running a beacon at the moment on 503.5kHz - I am testing a small "/P"
> antenna similar to what G3CWI proposed to use a couple of weeks back. It is
> a 9m high "umbrella" with 4 x 5m long top loading wires sloping at about
> 45degrees. Ground system is 4 x 20m radial wires.
>
> The beacon is transmitting an 8wpm CW identifier, followed by five 5 second
> dashes at reducing power levels in steps of 6dB. The maximum ERP is
> somewhere in the region of 100mW ERP. The sequence repeats every 2 mins
> roughly.
>
> I'll leave it running until after dark at least - any reports would be very
> welcome.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
>
>




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Hi James.
Once again a very interesting set of experiments,which does seem to support
my findings that the Mains/water pipes take most of the current,
making all the work on radials earth rods etc a bit of a waste of time.
However I must try resonating the radial system. Presumably I would need
to series resonate with a capacitor, value depending of course on my
particular system..... but did you say that the reactance was capacitive ?
Regards
73 Laurie

2009/6/2 James Moritz <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>

> Dear LF Group,
>
> Over the last few days I have been doing some experiments with ground
> systems with my LF/MF antenna. The purpose was partly to see whether it is
> possible to reduce the overall loss resistance significantly, but also to
> test out some convenient types of ground for antennas for portable
> operation, in particular radial wires. The antenna is currently a top-loaded
> vertical about 10m high, with about 80m in total of horizontal wires in a
> narrow, asymmetrical "Y" shape about 50m long, giving a capacitance at 136k
> of around 500pF, and around 580pF at at 500k due to the increased effect of
> the distributed inductance of the wires. As a reference, I used the normal
> ground system, consisting of 6 x 1m ground rods, distributed within a couple
> of metres of the base of the antenna tuners.
>
> The measuring technique was to initially set the normal series loading
> coils to resonance at 136kHz and 502khz with the normal ground system, and
> then measure the antenna resistance between the "cold" end of the loading
> coil and ground with an RF bridge. The total loss resistance of the antenna
> (including the loading coils and the normal ground system) was 57ohms at
> 136k and 24ohms at 502k. Then an alternative ground system was connected
> instead of the normal ground, the bridge re-tuned to measure the new
> resistance, and any change in reactance determined from the change in
> resonant frequency. The reactance measurement is only approximate, but good
> enough for these purposes. The bridge equipment was all battery operated,
> and sat on a wooden table, so had minimal effect on the impedance of the
> ground system. When I set up a similar antenna with similar ground rods in a
> field a while back, the loss resistance of the antenna was only about 8 ohms
> in total, so the component of the loss resistance due to the normal ground
> system is probably less than 8 ohms. The much higher total loss resistance
> is due mostly to the environmental factors affecting the antenna.
>
> I first tried combinations of insulated radial wires laid on the ground,
> including 4 x 20m radials, 4 x 40m radials and 8 x 20m radials. It did not
> seem to matter much how the radials were laid out, whether underneath the
> top load wires or in completely different directions. Some had bends or
> doubled back - there is not really room at my QTH for 40m radials! Some were
> laid on the grass, others along the concrete driveway that runs down one
> side of the plot. None of this made more than a few ohms difference to the
> loss resistance, provided the wires were reasonably well spaced apart.  All
> configurations had significant capacitive reactance compared to the normal
> ground rods:
>
> 4 x 20m radials, 136k: R = 80ohm , X = -j466ohms
> 4x 20m radials, 502k: R = 28ohm, X = -j113ohms
>
> 4x 40m radials, 136k: R = 66ohms,  X = -j248ohms
> 4 x 40m radials, 502k, R = 25ohms, X = -j61ohms
>
> 8 x 20m radials, 136k: R = 62ohms, X = -j283ohms
> 8 x 20m radials, 502k: R = 23ohms, X = -j76ohms
>
> So it would seem that having the total of 160m of wire as 8 shorter radials
> is slightly better than 4 longer ones as far a loss goes. I also tried
> elevating the radials above ground about 0.3m on lengths of cane:
>
> 8 x 20m radials, elevated, 136k: R = 80ohms, X = -j622ohms
> 8 x 20m radials, elevated, 502k: R = 23ohms, X = -j158ohms
>
> The loss resistance at 502kHz is slightly reduced, but the extra capacitive
> reactance is now getting very high, especially at 136k. I tried adding a
> "metallic" ground connection by adding a 200mm long steel tent peg to the
> end of each radial, and driving it into the ground:
>
> 8 x 20m radial + ground spike, 136k: R = 80ohms, X = 0
> 8 x 20m radial + ground spike, 502k: R = 69ohms, X = -j11ohms
>
> So this is effective at reducing the reactance, but does not help loss
> resistance; in fact, it leads to a drastic increase in loss at 502k.
>
> Instead of insulated radials, I tried a 15m x 0.6m strip of wire mesh (a
> roll of chicken wire that was lying around), held down flat on the grass
> with bricks:
>
> 15m x 0.6m wire mesh, 136k: R = 82ohms, X = -j102ohms
> 15m x 0.6m wire mesh, 502k: R = 31ohms, X = -j9ohms
>
> So in spite of  having a large area of metal in reasonable contact with the
> ground, there is still relatively high resistance, and some capacitive
> reactance. Since the insulated radials in general resulted in lower loss
> resistance, I tried insulating the wire mesh from the ground using polythene
> sheet:
>
> 15m x 0.6m wire mesh, insulated, 136k: R = 65ohms, X = -j320ohms
> 15m x 0.6m wire mesh, insulated, 502k: R = 26ohms, X = -j63ohms
>
> Since the wire mesh would be quite a convenient earth system to use for an
> antenna over a paved area, or on rocky ground, I tried laying it on the
> concrete driveway:
>
> 15m x 0.6m wire mesh, on concrete, 136k: R = 57 ohms, X = -j320ohms
> 15m x 0.6m wire mesh, on concrete, 502k: R = 23 ohms, X = -j65ohms
>
> The loss resistance is now as low as the normal ground rod system, although
> the reactance is higher.
>
> Looking at these results, the ground rods win for the fixed station
> antenna. The ground here is a permanently wet clay soil, which is probably
> quite good for ground rods. They give practically the lowest loss resistance
> (a couple of the other ground systems give a marginally lower loss
> resistance at 502k, but in practice the actual resonant frequency was
> increased due to the additional reactance, and the loss resistance of the
> antenna decreases at higher frequency). The reactance is also lower. Most of
> the alternative ground systems effectively behave as capacitive coupling to
> ground, with significant capacitive reactance as well as some additional
> loss resistance. For the fixed station, if the ground system has a high
> reactance, most of the ground current will flow through the lower impedance
> path via TX chassis/mains earth, instead of the ground system. This is
> possibly why adding ground radials to an existing system often has no
> effect. One way round this would be to have an auxilliary tuning inductor
> connected between the ATU ground, and the ground radial sytem. You could
> tune the inductor for maximum RF current in the radials, or minimum current
> via the TX ground.
>
> For portable antennas, it is often difficult to drive long ground rods into
> the earth. It seems that short ground spikes, like the tent pegs, or
> metallic conductors laid on the surface of the ground, do not make a very
> good ground connection. The insulated radial wire systems generally give the
> lower loss resistances for the antenna system, and are quite easy to set up.
> The effect of the unwanted ground system reactance for a portable station
> with no other earth connection is that the ground terminal of the ATU is not
> at ground potential, and so probably also the cases of all the station
> equipment. For 500kHz stations with fairly low power (say <1A antenna
> current or so), where reactance is quite low, this probably does not matter
> much so long as the equipment (and operator) are reasonably well insulated
> from ground. For a QRO 136kHz station, it is likely to be a different story
> - with 1kW I can get about 4A antenna current - if I was using the 8 x 20m
> radials, the 283ohms reactance would mean the equipment ground would have
> more than 1kV of RF relative to ground! The capacitance of the insulated
> radials works out very roughly to 28pF per metre of wire, and one wants to
> make the total capacitance large enough to keep the voltage down to a
> reasonable level. More and longer radials would clearly be desirable, which
> are not really feasible in my garden, but might be quite easy at a /P
> location.
>
> The insulated wire mesh ground required less area than the radial wires,
> and had low loss resistance with similar reactance, so could be quite
> promising, especially where the ground is already insulated; on concrete or
> tarmac for example.
>
> Hopefully some time this summer, I will be able to borrow a field again,
> and do some further experiments with more space available.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Hi James.<br>Once again a very interesting set of experiments,which does see=
m to support my findings that the Mains/water pipes take most of the current=
,<br>making all the work on radials earth rods etc a bit of a waste of time.=
 However I must try resonating the radial system. Presumably I would need<br=
>
to series resonate with a capacitor, value depending of course on my particu=
lar system..... but did you say that the reactance was capacitive ?<br>Regar=
ds <br>73 Laurie<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/6/2 James Moritz <sp=
an dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:james.moritz@btopenworld.com">james.mor=
itz@btopenworld.com</a>&gt;</span><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 2=
04, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Dear LF Group,<br>
<br>
Over the last few days I have been doing some experiments with ground system=
s with my LF/MF antenna. The purpose was partly to see whether it is possibl=
e to reduce the overall loss resistance significantly, but also to test out=20=
some convenient types of ground for antennas for portable operation, in part=
icular radial wires. The antenna is currently a top-loaded vertical about 10=
m high, with about 80m in total of horizontal wires in a narrow, asymmetrica=
l &quot;Y&quot; shape about 50m long, giving a capacitance at 136k of around=
 500pF, and around 580pF at at 500k due to the increased effect of the distr=
ibuted inductance of the wires. As a reference, I used the normal ground sys=
tem, consisting of 6 x 1m ground rods, distributed within a couple of metres=
 of the base of the antenna tuners.<br>

<br>
The measuring technique was to initially set the normal series loading coils=
 to resonance at 136kHz and 502khz with the normal ground system, and then m=
easure the antenna resistance between the &quot;cold&quot; end of the loadin=
g coil and ground with an RF bridge. The total loss resistance of the antenn=
a (including the loading coils and the normal ground system) was 57ohms at 1=
36k and 24ohms at 502k. Then an alternative ground system was connected inst=
ead of the normal ground, the bridge re-tuned to measure the new resistance,=
 and any change in reactance determined from the change in resonant frequenc=
y. The reactance measurement is only approximate, but good enough for these=20=
purposes. The bridge equipment was all battery operated, and sat on a wooden=
 table, so had minimal effect on the impedance of the ground system. When I=20=
set up a similar antenna with similar ground rods in a field a while back, t=
he loss resistance of the antenna was only about 8 ohms in total, so the com=
ponent of the loss resistance due to the normal ground system is probably le=
ss than 8 ohms. The much higher total loss resistance is due mostly to the e=
nvironmental factors affecting the antenna.<br>

<br>
I first tried combinations of insulated radial wires laid on the ground, inc=
luding 4 x 20m radials, 4 x 40m radials and 8 x 20m radials. It did not seem=
 to matter much how the radials were laid out, whether underneath the top lo=
ad wires or in completely different directions. Some had bends or doubled ba=
ck - there is not really room at my QTH for 40m radials! Some were laid on t=
he grass, others along the concrete driveway that runs down one side of the=20=
plot. None of this made more than a few ohms difference to the loss resistan=
ce, provided the wires were reasonably well spaced apart. =A0All configurati=
ons had significant capacitive reactance compared to the normal ground rods:=
<br>

<br>
4 x 20m radials, 136k: R =3D 80ohm , X =3D -j466ohms<br>
4x 20m radials, 502k: R =3D 28ohm, X =3D -j113ohms<br>
<br>
4x 40m radials, 136k: R =3D 66ohms, =A0X =3D -j248ohms<br>
4 x 40m radials, 502k, R =3D 25ohms, X =3D -j61ohms<br>
<br>
8 x 20m radials, 136k: R =3D 62ohms, X =3D -j283ohms<br>
8 x 20m radials, 502k: R =3D 23ohms, X =3D -j76ohms<br>
<br>
So it would seem that having the total of 160m of wire as 8 shorter radials=20=
is slightly better than 4 longer ones as far a loss goes. I also tried eleva=
ting the radials above ground about 0.3m on lengths of cane:<br>
<br>
8 x 20m radials, elevated, 136k: R =3D 80ohms, X =3D -j622ohms<br>
8 x 20m radials, elevated, 502k: R =3D 23ohms, X =3D -j158ohms<br>
<br>
The loss resistance at 502kHz is slightly reduced, but the extra capacitive=20=
reactance is now getting very high, especially at 136k. I tried adding a &qu=
ot;metallic&quot; ground connection by adding a 200mm long steel tent peg to=
 the end of each radial, and driving it into the ground:<br>

<br>
8 x 20m radial + ground spike, 136k: R =3D 80ohms, X =3D 0<br>
8 x 20m radial + ground spike, 502k: R =3D 69ohms, X =3D -j11ohms<br>
<br>
So this is effective at reducing the reactance, but does not help loss resis=
tance; in fact, it leads to a drastic increase in loss at 502k.<br>
<br>
Instead of insulated radials, I tried a 15m x 0.6m strip of wire mesh (a rol=
l of chicken wire that was lying around), held down flat on the grass with b=
ricks:<br>
<br>
15m x 0.6m wire mesh, 136k: R =3D 82ohms, X =3D -j102ohms<br>
15m x 0.6m wire mesh, 502k: R =3D 31ohms, X =3D -j9ohms<br>
<br>
So in spite of =A0having a large area of metal in reasonable contact with th=
e ground, there is still relatively high resistance, and some capacitive rea=
ctance. Since the insulated radials in general resulted in lower loss resist=
ance, I tried insulating the wire mesh from the ground using polythene sheet=
:<br>

<br>
15m x 0.6m wire mesh, insulated, 136k: R =3D 65ohms, X =3D -j320ohms<br>
15m x 0.6m wire mesh, insulated, 502k: R =3D 26ohms, X =3D -j63ohms<br>
<br>
Since the wire mesh would be quite a convenient earth system to use for an a=
ntenna over a paved area, or on rocky ground, I tried laying it on the concr=
ete driveway:<br>
<br>
15m x 0.6m wire mesh, on concrete, 136k: R =3D 57 ohms, X =3D -j320ohms<br>
15m x 0.6m wire mesh, on concrete, 502k: R =3D 23 ohms, X =3D -j65ohms<br>
<br>
The loss resistance is now as low as the normal ground rod system, although=20=
the reactance is higher.<br>
<br>
Looking at these results, the ground rods win for the fixed station antenna.=
 The ground here is a permanently wet clay soil, which is probably quite goo=
d for ground rods. They give practically the lowest loss resistance (a coupl=
e of the other ground systems give a marginally lower loss resistance at 502=
k, but in practice the actual resonant frequency was increased due to the ad=
ditional reactance, and the loss resistance of the antenna decreases at high=
er frequency). The reactance is also lower. Most of the alternative ground s=
ystems effectively behave as capacitive coupling to ground, with significant=
 capacitive reactance as well as some additional loss resistance. For the fi=
xed station, if the ground system has a high reactance, most of the ground c=
urrent will flow through the lower impedance path via TX chassis/mains earth=
, instead of the ground system. This is possibly why adding ground radials t=
o an existing system often has no effect. One way round this would be to hav=
e an auxilliary tuning inductor connected between the ATU ground, and the gr=
ound radial sytem. You could tune the inductor for maximum RF current in the=
 radials, or minimum current via the TX ground.<br>

<br>
For portable antennas, it is often difficult to drive long ground rods into=20=
the earth. It seems that short ground spikes, like the tent pegs, or metalli=
c conductors laid on the surface of the ground, do not make a very good grou=
nd connection. The insulated radial wire systems generally give the lower lo=
ss resistances for the antenna system, and are quite easy to set up. The eff=
ect of the unwanted ground system reactance for a portable station with no o=
ther earth connection is that the ground terminal of the ATU is not at groun=
d potential, and so probably also the cases of all the station equipment. Fo=
r 500kHz stations with fairly low power (say &lt;1A antenna current or so),=20=
where reactance is quite low, this probably does not matter much so long as=20=
the equipment (and operator) are reasonably well insulated from ground. For=20=
a QRO 136kHz station, it is likely to be a different story - with 1kW I can=20=
get about 4A antenna current - if I was using the 8 x 20m radials, the 283oh=
ms reactance would mean the equipment ground would have more than 1kV of RF=20=
relative to ground! The capacitance of the insulated radials works out very=20=
roughly to 28pF per metre of wire, and one wants to make the total capacitan=
ce large enough to keep the voltage down to a reasonable level. More and lon=
ger radials would clearly be desirable, which are not really feasible in my=20=
garden, but might be quite easy at a /P location.<br>

<br>
The insulated wire mesh ground required less area than the radial wires, and=
 had low loss resistance with similar reactance, so could be quite promising=
, especially where the ground is already insulated; on concrete or tarmac fo=
r example.<br>

<br>
Hopefully some time this summer, I will be able to borrow a field again, and=
 do some further experiments with more space available.<br>
<br>
Cheers, Jim Moritz<br>
73 de M0BMU<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div><br>

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From: "Markus Vester" <markusvester@aol.com>
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... nice again at noontime, this time using direct input to soundcard and SpecLab's multistrip display (bottom to top).

Regards, 
Markus

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From: "Markus Vester" <markusvester@aol.com>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 11:29 AM
Subject: LF: Re: SAQ


Good signal again from SAQ in Nuernberg around 09:00, using SPM-3 selective level meter. QRN is now starting to build up again.

73 and a nice weekend,
Markus

DF6NM in JN59NK




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Hi Richard,
I think the noise variation is very similar to that on 136k and relates to
the position of the the dawn/disk edge. In the morning as the dawn sweeps
west across Europe the night-time skywave delivery of all this noise (both
atmospheric and man-made) is wiped out by D-layer absorption. We in the UK
get no noise from the west as its is mainly water. (the condition is exactly
the opposite on the East coast of the States). There seems to be less
lightning over water too.

The catch is that just around dawn there is a very quite period....this is
very encouraging and many have tried to make good DX in that period
.....unsuccessfully. I believe that this period is dogged by intense
absorbtion because at dawn the D-layer is first illuminated from underneath
(NM6M Bob Brown QST about 1999) by solar rays that have grazed the ground
before impinging on the D-layer about 1000km W of the ground dawn line. Thus
in this quiet period there is just no propagation by skywave so that DX is
not possible. Quite often the best time has been just before (say 60 mins)
dawn (at mid path)before the absorption starts.. N<>S paths are more
seriously affected than E<>W paths.

Once the sun rises and the ionosphere is illuminated from above then normal
daytime skywave returns slowly with the best singnals around mid-day at
mid-path. 500k is complicate dby the possibility of two "reflection heights"
which give rise to the deep daytime fading not seen on 136kHz, though this
my only occur later in the day.

There are difference between 136 and 500k but I think the noise problem is
similar.

Best of luck
Alan G3NYK

----- Original Message -----
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> I wonder if anyone has attempted to plot the diurnal noise levels on
> 500kHz? I wonder if, for instance, very early on a Sunday morning is
> particularly quiet?
>
> 73
>
> Richard
> G3CWI
>
>



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Rik Strobbe wrote:

>
> When I model a 11m high and 22m long lazy-L antenna (using MMANA-GAL) 
> the modeling result seem to agree with theory: 0.027 Ohm at 137kHz and 
> 0.359 Ohm at 502kHz.
> But when I model a 10.5m high and 22m long loop, 0.5m above ground:
> - 0.0013 Ohm at 137kHz and 0.033 Ohm at 502kHz, a ratio of only 25 
> instead of the expected 180
> - very different from the theoretical values: 0.00007 Ohm at 137kHz 
> and 0.013 Ohm at 502kHz
> - modeling in free space at 502kHz confirms the theoretical 0.013 Ohm, 
> but at 137kHz even in free space it is 0.0012 Ohm. If the claim that 
> loop losses are not affected by the ground I would expect that the 
> radiation resistance is not affected either.
>
> I guess MMANA-GAL is not suited for modeling very small loops, is 
> there other software that can scope with this ?
> Before going into the effort of putting op the loop I would like to 
> have an idea of what to expect.
>
> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
>
>
Dear Rick, LF group,
years  before  reading your  present post  i  have found ,among others, 
your review article  concerning LF antennae
 (btw, it  was  , and still is, a wonderful piece of  useful work done 
upon this  subject)  In this article there was a formula
 giving  a theoretical estimate of  a radiation resistance of a small 
loop. the  term 'small'  will be considered later..
over the  past few years there were some (internet)  reports about poor 
performance about  mmana especially
 when the 'real ground' option has been  switched on.  your present post 
confirms  this issue but  which is more important
and brings  my attention is the ' free space' performance  in the case 
of low frequencies.
so i decided to check out the  'theory'  behind the  formula  of  
rad.res. of  small loops

from the very, very basic consideration of electromagnetic radiation   
one arrives with Johnson-Nyquist
formula concernig the noise of carriers in a resistive medium i,e 
"antenna'  which states that rad.res
 = Z(0)(2/3)pi(heff/lambda)^2 where Z(0) is an impedance of a free space 
(377ohm) but which can be alternatively presented
as 4pi10^-7 c where heff is an effective height of an antenna  and c 
,velocity of light  which  , due to the units is 3 times 10^8 m/s)
the so called 'effective height ' is a proprtionality factor between  
voltage induced in the antenna  due to the electric field .
In the case of a SMALL  loop ( constant current ) simple considerations 
due to the Farady law lead to its effective height as
2piA/lambda , A is  loop area  ( single turn loop , air ).   Simple math 
and we arrive to rad .res.as  320pi^4A^2/lambda^4
as it is in your review. Rick, i did this 'check' because :
a)  some aspects of my job are loosely connected with  electromagnetism
b)  i like this sort of  ' brain recreation'   - 'play' with formulas, hi
c) I  simply wanted to 'confirm'  this expression as being  derived from 
the 'principles' i.e maxwell equations etcc.. and , first of all
 what assumptions, simplifications were made in order to get this. it 
seems that  this expression is  strongly supported by 'principles'
and considerations are ok.  let us go back to mmana performance .. your 
mmana modelling  the loop at 502  kHz  in a free space
  is consistent with theoretical  estimate  while  137 kHz  case gives 
discrepancy.  Considering only the theoretical expression  of rad.res
it just should be the opposite !  the loop is 'smaller' at 137  or 
'bigger' at 502  in terms of a wavelength  :)
Therefore, it must be  some sort of   intrinsic error in mmana 
performance when going to lower frequencies  due rather
 to the method and not to the 'physics'  . mmana is based on  the 
"method of  moments"  and may be it is the segmentation  issue
 which comes into play in the case of lower frequencies - those DM1, DM2 
parameters etc..
I must admit i've never played with these parameters  - usually i  was  
opening one of the existing antennae files
 in the  samples  subdirectories and was using it as a starting point  
for  changing the geometries etc.. (but for HF so far..)

                                                  yours, peter, sq7mpj
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Hello Alan,

thanks for the info.
What I had in mind was a 501-504kHz filter so not=20
as narrow as the 800Hz filter you designed.
And as an input filter I wouldn't care about 10dB=20
(or even more) insertion loss as I always have a=20
20dB attenuator between antenna and RX.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

At 15:38 15/06/2009, you wrote:
>Hi Rick there is a problem building a sharp ladder filter with 500 or 455
>kHz resonators. I have played with a number. the difficulty seems to stem
>from the fact that to get a narow filter you have to design for a filter
>impedance of around 250 to 300ohms. then when you conside the ESR of the
>resonators of say 40 to 70 ohms and 5 in series you have a lot of loss
>through the filter. The best I managed at 455khz was about 800Hz pass band,
>but a lot of insertion loss. I think a more promising format is to use the
>resonators in shunt (parrallel resonance) with top coupling. I think the
>late Jan Noedling  LA2AK had some information on his web pages which I
>believe are still available. I have not tried that yet.
>
>Rapid Electronics does wire ended ceramic resonators for between 10p and 20=
p
>(exVAT)each in singles and discounts lots of 25  by a further 10% or more.
>No Min order but =A33 postage on oders less that =A330
>www.rapidonline.com
>Best Wishes
>Alan G3NYK
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Rik Strobbe" <rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
>To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 2:10 PM
>Subject: Re: LF: 500 kHz resonators at nedis.com
>
>
> > Pedro,
> >
> > I have a VXO with a 4MHz ceramic resonator. That signal is divided by
> > 8. Range is 500.5 - 506kHz.
> > see
> > http://wireless.org.uk/500k_tx.gif
> > http://wireless.org.uk/qtx.htm
> >
> > 4MHz cer. resonators are available at less than 1 Euro in almost
> > every electronic shop.
> >
> > 500kHz cer. resonators however could be interesting to build a sharp
> > RX-input filter (cfr xtal ladder filter)
> >
> > 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
> >
> >
> > At 14:50 15/06/2009, you wrote:
> > >Hello group,
> > >
> > >I just discovered that the European grossist for electronic parts has
> > >500 kc ceramic resonators in their range for less than half a Euro.
> > >this is a great building block for a tunable 500 kHz transmitter.  I
> > >ordered some for test purposes to see how far they can e pulled.
> > >Unfortunately they don't sell direct to customers, only to retailers.
> > >
> > >
> > >Pedro
> > >
> > >www.nedis.com
> >
> >


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Reasons several...
My beacon on 503.7kHz will be off for a few days.
Hope to put it back middle of next week.


Andy  G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com


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Dear All,
 
last nights "rough note" due to soon to blow (now blown) linear PSU for
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James Moritz wrote:
> Dear Tim, LF Group,
>
> I tried some expeiments with measuring loop antennas at LF and MF a 
> while back - changing the height above ground from 0 - 10m made 
> virtually no difference. The only thing that made a lot of difference 
> to signal levels is if the loop is very close to big metal objects, 
> but even then the difference is only minor unless the metal thing is 
> big compared to the loop, and within a loop diameter, say.
>
> I would agree with G3YXM about overloading - if you have an 
> oscilloscope, it is worth connecting it to the loop output to see if 
> any huge signals are present. I have used elliptic low pass filters 
> here to reduce the signal level from the local medium wave broadcast 
> stations to a reasonable level.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Trevor Smithers" 
> <tsmithers@cix.co.uk>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Cc: <tsmithers@cix.co.uk>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 11:40 AM
> Subject: Re: LF: Re Welbrook Loops
>
>
>> I use a 1530 as well, its mounted on a rotator about 2ft above ground 
>> level on a Barenco
>> socket/spike. Works well 80m down to 500khz but being so close to the 
>> ground its a bit deaf
>> above 80m as you would expect. My understanding is that for hf it 
>> should me mounted high up but
>> for lf its better low down near the ground.
>>
>> A rotator isn't really necessary as the beamwidth is quite broad but 
>> where I do find it useful is
>> nulling out the local qrm, switch modes etc.
>>
>
>
>
Thanks Jim for the info, I'll get myself a length of Fibreglass pipe and 
put it up over the roof, just got it hanging off the gutter at the 
moment, can hear loads on NDB's during the day, now to find out when the 
500kz activity is on.
I've checked the output on a scope and it looks reasonable

73
Tim


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Hello Richard, all,

I did some 500kHz tests last night with the Twente websdr:
- I cannot hear or see my own signal on the websdr (abt. 1W ERP, 
distance 200km)
- While I heard G3KEV 599+ here I could not hear or see on Mal on the 
websdr (distance G3KEV-me = 510km, distance G3KEV-Twente = 540km)
I guess a W3DZZ dipole is not the perfect antenna for 600m.

The above is not meant to criticize the WEBSDR project of the Twente 
university (all respect for this masterpiece), just to inform that 
one shouldn't panic it your 500kHz signal doesn't show up.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

At 22:29 18/06/2009, you wrote:
>Amazing!
>
>I heard a couple of NDBs, "LAA" and "LI". You can also see what frequencies
>the other users are using, which is interesting in a curious way!
>
>73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Richard Newstead
>Sent: 18 June 2009 10:09
>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>Subject: LF: webSDR
>
>
>Now covers LF/MF:
>
>http://websdr.ewi.utwente.nl:8901/
>
>73
>
>Richard
>G3CWI
DZZ  



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They used to announce that "this is a point-to-point and not a broadcast=
 service".  I believe they were connected with ATT.

John F5VLF

*********** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***********

On 27/06/2009 at 15:10 Warren Ziegler wrote:

>White plains is immediately North of New York City:
>
>http://maps.google.com/maps?q=3Dwhite+plains,ny&oe=3Dutf-8&rls=3Dorg.mozi=
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>On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 3:05 PM, mal hamilton<g3kevmal@talktalk.net> wrot=
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>> I remember a radio station on HF SSB years ago WHITE PLAINS. Where=A0is
>that
>> located, somewhere in the USA.
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>>





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Hi, Jim.

Nothing heard here yet...and no signals on the G3YXM grabber either, at the
moment.

I'll keep monitoring for a while.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor S E England.

-----Original Message-----
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 Sorry but I meant 502.5KHz

Sending CQ Test on 5 mins cycles

Thanx for any reports

Jim G7NKS

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Dear All,

G7NKS active on 503KHz at 21.20 BST/20.20 UTC  sending CW @ 5wpm   "CQ Test
de G7NKS"

Thanks for any reports


Jim



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Hello Niels and LF!

Congratulation, Niels!
Hope to make an x-band  with you next autumn!

73!
--
Roman RW3ADB.

* mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net> [Sat, 20 Jun 2009 19:15:54=20
+0100]:
> Hello Neils
> Nice to hear u on 500 and I am QRV every day. Let me know when u are=20
in
> QSO mode.
> mal/g3kev
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: niels rudberg j=C3=B8rgensen
>   To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>   Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 7:06 PM
>   Subject: LF: OZ now on 500 kHz
>
>
>   Hello LF-Group!
>   Less than a week ago I received an experimental permit
>   for 501-504 kHz and 20 W ERP.
>   Test transmissions this afternoon for field strength
>   measurements were received by Mal/G3KEV and John/
>   GM4SLV. Thanks were much to both of you for the
>   reports.
>   My TX power was 80 watts, the antenna current 2.5 A
>   and I estimate the ERP to be about 1.5 Watts.
>   Soon I will be in a qso mode and I look forward to
>   having some to-way CW-qso=C2=B4s.
>   73
>   Niels / OZ8NJ+



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LF,

SAQ was good copy at 1200 UTC also. The spacer between characters was
visible on Spectran. This time my RX was an ICOM IC-PCR1000 with a VLF
upconverter to 7.017 MHz

Short sound sample attached.

73 Dave G3WCB IO91RM



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Hello Dennis!
Thanks for interesting report. OK0EMW is just on air.

73!

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

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> Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 03:03:00 +0200
> From: Dennis.Hennig@gmx.de
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: LF: 600m reports 12.VI.- 13.VI.2009  at night
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> Hi!
> Following signals observed tonight 
> 12.VI.- 13.VI.2009 
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> QTH Berlin city JO62RM
> RX homemade simple superhet
> IF-bandwidth abt 150Hz
> ANT wireloop abt 15sqm, 
> 10m agl. in a linden tree
> "pointing Iceland" = NW/SE
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> 23:18Z - 00:27Z   OK0EMW  distance about 482km
> audible for an estimated one-third of the observing time
> RST peaking say 559 at max.
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> 00:28Z - 00:59Z   SK6RUD  distance about 538km
> The local carriers usually blocking 500.000kHz
> surprisingly weren't present this time.
> Signal audible for most of the 31min 
> observing time, RST peaking say 539 at max.
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> Thank You for providing the signals :)
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Hello Dennis!<br>Thanks for interesting report. OK0EMW is just on air.<br><br>73!<br><br>Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS<br><br>************************************<br><br>&gt; Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 03:03:00 +0200<br>&gt; From: Dennis.Hennig@gmx.de<br>&gt; To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<br>&gt; Subject: LF: 600m reports 12.VI.- 13.VI.2009  at night<br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; Hi!<br>&gt; Following signals observed tonight <br>&gt; 12.VI.- 13.VI.2009 <br>&gt; <br>&gt; -----------------------------------------------------------<br>&gt; QTH Berlin city JO62RM<br>&gt; RX homemade simple superhet<br>&gt; IF-bandwidth abt 150Hz<br>&gt; ANT wireloop abt 15sqm, <br>&gt; 10m agl. in a linden tree<br>&gt; "pointing Iceland" = NW/SE<br>&gt; --------------------------------------------------------------<br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; 23:18Z - 00:27Z   OK0EMW  distance about 482km<br>&gt; audible for an estimated one-third of the observing time<br>&gt; RST peaking say 559 at max.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; 00:28Z - 00:59Z   SK6RUD  distance about 538km<br>&gt; The local carriers usually blocking 500.000kHz<br>&gt; surprisingly weren't present this time.<br>&gt; Signal audible for most of the 31min <br>&gt; observing time, RST peaking say 539 at max.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; Thank You for providing the signals :)<br>&gt; <br>&gt; vy73<br>&gt; Dennis<br>&gt; DL6NVC<br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; -- <br>&gt; GRATIS fr alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT!<br>&gt; Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01<br>&gt; <br><br /><hr />Pedvete svj styl pomoc zobrazen obrzk v Messenger. Prohldnte si je vechny. <a href='http://download.live.com/messenger' target='_new'>Klikni zde!</a></body>
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  Thank you for the report.
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 Sorry but I meant 502.5KHz

Sending CQ Test on 5 mins cycles

Thanx for any reports

Jim G7NKS

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Dear All,

G7NKS active on 503KHz at 21.20 BST/20.20 UTC  sending CW @ 5wpm   "CQ Test
de G7NKS"

Thanks for any reports


Jim



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Dear LF Group,

SAQ was a strong signal here as usual, with a message comemorating award of 
a Nobel Prize to Marconi and Braun. Plenty of QRN though. I got out the 
"electromechanical RX" again, as the most appropriate means of reception ;-)

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU 



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Not relevant.  Most FET's are going QRT due to feedback issues in bad 
parallel circuits...

The _golden rule_ is to put SUFFICIENT series resistance in every gate 
separately, do NEVER put gates in parallel.

Some nice literature on this is the fantastic book on HF amplifier 
design by Helge Granberg from Motorola.

Pedro ON7WP-AA9HX
/Licensed transceiver doctor and radio guru/ :-)




mal hamilton schreef:
> Chris
> Use a separate pwr supply for the fan, not the same supply that runs 
> the FETS or driver ccts. This is what I do and never had a problem.
> mal/g3kev
>  
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     *From:* Chris Osborn <mailto:g3xiz@yahoo.co.uk>
>     *To:* LF Group <mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>     *Sent:* Saturday, June 20, 2009 7:34 AM
>     *Subject:* LF: 500 kHz - Fans
>
>     LF,
>     I've nearly completed my new PA for 500 kHz and have now managed to
>     stop destroying FET's.
>      
>     Unfortunately I have an unusual problem in that the heatsink
>     cooling fans
>     are going U/S.
>      
>     I have used 24 volts brushless PC-type fans and after a while they
>     either die completely or start to go backwards slowly. . .
>      
>     The fans may be slightly over-run but only by a volt or so and on
>     key-up
>     (unregulated supply) and are situated about 50 mm (2 inches) from
>     the heatsink.
>     I have rf decoupled them from the supply but maybe not well enough !
>      
>     Any suggestions in curing this problem would be most welcome.
>      
>     73 Chris G3XIZ
>      
>      
>      
>


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Not relevant.&nbsp; Most FET's are going QRT due to feedback issues in bad
parallel circuits...<br>
<br>
The <u>golden rule</u> is to put SUFFICIENT series resistance in every
gate separately, do NEVER put gates in parallel.<br>
<br>
Some nice literature on this is the fantastic book on HF amplifier
design by Helge Granberg from Motorola.<br>
<br>
Pedro ON7WP-AA9HX<br>
<i>Licensed transceiver doctor and radio guru</i> :-)<br>
<br>
<br>
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<br>
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  <div><font face="Arial" size="2">Use a separate pwr supply for the
fan, not the same supply that runs the FETS or driver ccts. This is
what I do and never had a problem.</font></div>
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    <a moz-do-not-send="true" title="g3xiz@yahoo.co.uk"   href="mailto:g3xiz@yahoo.co.uk">Chris Osborn</a> </div>
    <div   style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>To:</b>
    <a moz-do-not-send="true" title="rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org"   href="mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">LF Group</a> </div>
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LF: 500 kHz - Fans</div>
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    </div>
    <div   style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif;">
    <div>LF,</div>
    <div>I've nearly completed my new PA for 500 kHz and have now
managed to</div>
    <div>stop destroying FET's.</div>
    <div>&nbsp;</div>
    <div>Unfortunately I have an unusual problem in that the heatsink
cooling fans</div>
    <div>are going U/S.</div>
    <div>&nbsp;</div>
    <div>I have used 24 volts brushless PC-type fans and after a while
they</div>
    <div>either die completely or start to go backwards slowly. . .</div>
    <div>&nbsp;</div>
    <div>The fans may be slightly over-run but only by a volt or so and
on key-up </div>
    <div>(unregulated supply) and are situated about 50 mm (2 inches)
from the heatsink.</div>
    <div>I have rf decoupled them from the supply but&nbsp;maybe not well
enough !</div>
    <div>&nbsp;</div>
    <div>Any suggestions&nbsp;in curing this problem would be most welcome.</div>
    <div>&nbsp;</div>
    <div>73 Chris G3XIZ</div>
    <div>&nbsp;</div>
    <div>&nbsp;</div>
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Pedro, LF,

Seeing some weak traces on 503 kHz, it may be ON7WP ??

Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP


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Subject: LF: ON7WP now testing on 503,000 kHz

test signal on air

reports appreciated on 3737 kHz (actually 3739 due to QRM...)

starting CQ for normal CW QSO on 19:00 utc and later

from 01:00 UTC CQ in QRSS 10

Pedro and team...


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Dear Gerhard, LF Group,

I am currently (1242utc) transmitting a DFCW beacon signal on 137.680kHz, 
with ERP of about 300mW. There is some QRN here, but band noise is not too 
bad. QTH is just north of London at IO91vr. Previous experience indicates 
you may see something in OE during daylight, but don't be suprised if you 
have to wait until after dark to copy the signal. Any reports very welcome.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gerhard Hickl" <gerhard.hickl@aon.at>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
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>
> So if anybody is planning activity on 137 for today, please let me know.
>
> Tnx and 73
>
> de OE3GHB
>
> Gerhard
>
>
> 



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Hello Chris,  LF

 

Receiving your CQ-call in regular CW-Mode with about 449 here in JN59LN;

 

73     de Gerhard  // DK6NI

 

================================

 

 

  _____  

Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von Chris Osborn
Gesendet: Samstag, 18. April 2009 19:38
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Betreff: LF: GB4FPR 502.000 Cw test as of 1430 18/4

 

Hello Graham,

You were a solid  559 in Biggleswade, Beds.

73 
Chris G3XIZ
IO 92 UB

 

  _____  

From: Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Sent: Saturday, 18 April, 2009 18:21:36
Subject: Re: LF: GB4FPR 502.000 Cw test as of 1430 18/4 

Thanks to  Finbar  GI4DPE

For the  first qso out of  GB4FPR , 

Apologies to  other stations calling

 

Thanks for reports via email . 

 

G .. 

 

From: Graham <mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet..co.uk>  

Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 2:09 PM

To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org 

Subject: LF: GB4FPR 502.000 Cw test as of 1430 18/4 

 

All.

 

Equipment  sorted .. should be  testing live on air as of  approx  1430 

 

502.00  cw only

 

Tnx - G ..

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You were a solid&nbsp; 559 in Biggleswade, Beds.<br>
<br>
73 <br>
Chris G3XIZ<br>
IO 92 UB<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><font size=3D2 face=
=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bol=
d'>From:</span></font></b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Graham
&lt;g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk&gt;<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st=3D"o=
n">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Saturday, 18 April, 200=
9
18:21:36<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: LF: GB4FPR 502.0=
00 Cw
test as of 1430 18/4 </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'=
font-size: 12.0pt'>Thanks to&nbsp; Finbar&nbsp; GI4DPE<o:p></o:p></span></fo=
nt></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'=
font-size: 12.0pt'>For the&nbsp; first qso out of&nbsp; GB4FPR , <o:p></o:p>=
</span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'=
font-size: 12.0pt'>Apologies to&nbsp; other stations calling<o:p></o:p></spa=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'=
font-size: 12.0pt'>Thanks for reports via email . <o:p></o:p></span></font><=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:whitesmoke'><b><font size=3D2 face=
=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bol=
d'>From:</span></font></b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> <a href=3D"mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet..co.uk"=20=
target=3D"_blank" title=3D"g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk" ymailto=3D"mailto:g8fzk@=
g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk">Graham</a>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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d'>Sent:</span></font></b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Saturday,
April 18, 2009 2:09 PM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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d'>To:</span></font></b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-siz=
e:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> <a href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=
" target=3D"_blank" title=3D"rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" ymailto=3D"mailto=
:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a> <o:p></o:p><=
/span></font></p>

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=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bol=
d'>Subject:</span></font></b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'fon=
t-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> LF:
GB4FPR 502.000 Cw test as of 1430 18/4 <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'=
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 air as
of&nbsp; approx&nbsp; 1430 <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'=
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Hi,LF
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On 26 Jun 2009 at 10:34, Rik Strobbe wrote:

>  noticed it too.
> The picture (in jpeg format) is saved with an .html extension.
> It seems that only IE looks into the code and recognizes the jpeg 
> format, other browser don't check and just display it as text.
> 

What a silly thing to do..

If I save the source to my hard disk and change its extension to .jpeg 
then it does indeed open (in Irfanview in my case) and show a nice 
grabber picture.

But surely nobody would ever change it to a html file and upload as if 
it were a web page. You should make a proper html webpage and put a 
link to the .jpeg image in there. Very easy HTML.....

How ANY browser would expect to display an html file as a jpeg image is 
beyond belief. I never thought IE was THAT bad...

Opera (which of course also displays the garbage) says in its 'info' 
screen:

grabber.htmlURL of main page:
http://www.sm6bhz.com/grabber.html
Encoding (used by Opera): - not supplied - (windows-1252)
MIME type: text/html
Size of main page: 114,906 bytes
Number of inline elements: 1 (205 bytes)
Display mode: Quirks mode
Last modified: 26/06/2009 08:21:25
Downloaded: 26/06/2009 10:04:29

Correctly of course interpreting it as text/html...

73 Dave G3YMC

http://www.davesergeant.com



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 cheers Dave 


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Subject: LF: RE: G7NKS??

Dear Jim,

Visual trace with "Argo", but too weak to copy by ear. Screenshot attached.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor S E England.


-----Original Message-----
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Hi, Jim.

Nothing heard here yet...and no signals on the G3YXM grabber either, at the
moment.

I'll keep monitoring for a while.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor S E England.

-----Original Message-----
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 Sorry but I meant 502.5KHz

Sending CQ Test on 5 mins cycles

Thanx for any reports

Jim G7NKS

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Dear All,

G7NKS active on 503KHz at 21.20 BST/20.20 UTC  sending CW @ 5wpm   "CQ Test
de G7NKS"

Thanks for any reports


Jim



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Dear Chris, Laurie, Richard, LF Group,

Thanks for the replies. Re the comments:

G4OKW wrote:
>...The mesh might not be as good on a rocky hilltop. There is probably 
>conductive soil under only 10cm or so of concrete drive, whereas a mountain 
>may be insulating rock all the way down to Old Nick....

I agree - I don't think the wire mesh would neccessarily improve the ground 
losses, but compared to the radial wires it gives similar performance in a 
quite compact form, which could well be an advantage in itself.

>... Have you tried arrays of tent pegs?

No, I limited myself to one per radial. My thought was that for portable 
operation with a vertical antenna, it would probably be easier just to add 
some more radials, while for fixed station use full-length ground rods work 
better, and are probably less affected by the surface soil drying out. For 
the ground-loop type of antenna used for cave radio, I can see the array of 
tent pegs would be a good idea.

G3AQC wrote:
...> does seem to support my findings that the Mains/water pipes take most 
of the current,
making all the work on radials earth rods etc a bit of a waste of time...

The ground systems I tried are more-or-less insulated from the ground, so 
are coupled to the ground mainly by their capacitance, which has a 
relatively high reactance compared to their resistance. A ground rod on the 
end of a considerable length of wire probably has a substantial inductive 
reactance compared to its resistance, due to the inductance of the wire. 
Either way, even though they may have low resistance, the overall impedance 
of these grounds will be relatively high compared to a ground with a short 
connection to the return terminal of the TX or ATU, and so little current 
will flow in them.

>...I would need to series resonate with a capacitor, value depending of 
>course on my particular system..... but did you say that the reactance was 
>capacitive ?

The insulated radials, etc. have a capacitive reactance - the individual 
wires on the ground were roughly equivalent to 28pF/m. So these would 
require a tuning inductance to neutralise their reactance. For ground rods, 
or buried bare-wire radials, I expect the reactance would be more inductive, 
so a tuning capacitance would be required. Since we are talking about 
nanofarads of capacitance, or perhaps 10s of uH of inductance for the ground 
systems, the tuning components required would be fairly small 
inductance/large capacitance.

G3CWI wrote:
>...I am intrigued about loaded radials in that the loading is effectively 
>supplied by the inductor in the ATU circuit. There was no sign that such an 
>approach worked on my last trip but possibly the inductance was 
>insufficient...

The reactance of the radials adds to the total capacitive reactance of the 
antenna, so more inductance is needed to resonate the antenna. According to 
your previous mail, you had somewhere around 60m of radials, giving an 
additional reactance of roughly 200ohms on top of perhaps 900 ohms for the 
200ft long antenna. So the increase in overall tuning inductance required 
would have been quite large.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU





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Gus,

 

I use Google chrome & is the same as Dave & Rik reported.

 

My web designer gives the option to :-

 

"Save this format with a name chosen by WebPlus" which is html format

or

"Save to my chosen path and name"

 

I use the last one with jpeg format.

 

73

 

Gary - G4WGT

 

  _____  

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Sent: 26 June 2009 09:35
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Subject: Re: LF: Grabber

 

Dave, Gus,

I noticed it too.
The picture (in jpeg format) is saved with an .html extension.
It seems that only IE looks into the code and recognizes the jpeg format,
other browser don't check and just display it as text.

You can check it: 
- let Firefox (or any other browser) show the source code 
- save the source using the "save as"  option
- in "save as" select the "all files" (or "all extensions" ? .. sorry my OS
is Dutch, but it is the last option) option
- change the name into grabber.jpg
- browse to the file and double click on it, it should open as a jpeg in
your default viewer

73, Rik  ON7YD

At 09:35 26/06/2009, you wrote:



Gus

I just get a screen full of random characters in Firefox.
In Internet Explorer (which I don't use) it works OK.

Dave G3YXM

2009/6/25 Gus <begu@algonet.se>

Graham, after some test it will be permanent !!

 

Gus

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From: Graham <mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>  

To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org 

Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 12:45 AM

Subject: Re: LF: Grabber

Gus ...  is this permanent on line ?

 

I will add to the  grabbers page on uk500khz

 

tnx - Graham . 

From: Gus <mailto:begu@algonet.se>  

Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 11:07 PM

To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org 

Subject: LF: Grabber

Dear LF !

 

Just as info, i do some test with a new grabber.

It could be find on http://www.sm6bhz.com/grabber.html

 

73 de Gus

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ld'>Gus,<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

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ld'>I use
Google chrome &amp; is the same as Dave &amp; Rik reported.<o:p></o:p>=
</span></font></b></p>

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 style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue;font-weight:bo=
ld'>My web
designer gives the option to :-<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

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 style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue;font-weight:bo=
ld'>&#8220;Save
this format with a name chosen by WebPlus&#8221; which is html format<=
o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

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ld'>or<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

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ld'>&#8220;Save
to my chosen path and name&#8221;<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

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the last one with jpeg format.<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

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ld'>Gary &#8211;
G4WGT<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span lang=3DEN-U=
S style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:=
</span></font></b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span lang=3DEN-US styl=
e=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
owner-<st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</st1:Pe=
rsonName>
[mailto:owner-<st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=
</st1:PersonName>]
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Rik Strobb=
e<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 26 June 2009 09:3=
5<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:s=
t=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: LF: Grabbe=
r</span></font><span lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'>Dave, Gus,<br>
<br>
I noticed it too.<br>
The picture (in jpeg format) is saved with an .html extension.<br>
It seems that only IE looks into the code and recognizes the jpeg form=
at, other
browser don't check and just display it as text.<br>
<br>
You can check it: <br>
- let Firefox (or any other browser) show the source code <br>
- save the source using the &quot;save as&quot;&nbsp; option<br>
- in &quot;save as&quot; select the &quot;all files&quot; (or &quot;al=
l
extensions&quot; ? .. sorry my OS is Dutch, but it is the last option)=
 option<br>
- change the name into grabber.jpg<br>
- browse to the file and double click on it, it should open as a jpeg=
 in your
default viewer<br>
<br>
73, Rik&nbsp; ON7YD<br>
<br>
At 09:35 26/06/2009, you wrote:<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'>Gus<br>
<br>
I just get a screen full of random characters in Firefox.<br>
In Internet Explorer (which I don't use) it works OK.<br>
<br>
Dave G3YXM<br>
<br>
2009/6/25 Gus &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:begu@algonet.se">begu@algonet.se</=
a>&gt;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3 face=
=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Graham, after so=
me test
it will be permanent !!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3 face=
=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p=
></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D4 color=
=3D"#888888" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;=
color:#888888'>Gus</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3 face=
=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>----- Original=
 Message
----- <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3 face=
=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>From: <a href=3D=
"mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk">Graham</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font><=
/p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3 face=
=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>To: <a href=3D"m=
ailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a>=
 <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3 face=
=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Sent: Friday, Ju=
ne 26,
2009 12:45 AM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;=
margin-bottom: 12.0pt;margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times=
 New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Subject: Re: LF: Grabber<=
o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 face=
=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Gus ...&nbsp; is=
 this
permanent on line ?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3 face=
=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p=
></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 face=
=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>I will add to th=
e&nbsp;
grabbers page on uk500khz</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3 face=
=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p=
></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;=
margin-bottom: 12.0pt;margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 face=3D"Times=
 New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>tnx - Graham . </span></f=
ont><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3 face=
=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>From: <a href=3D=
"mailto:begu@algonet.se">Gus</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3 face=
=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Sent: Thursday,=
 June 25,
2009 11:07 PM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3 face=
=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>To: <a href=3D"m=
ailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a>=
 <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;=
margin-bottom: 12.0pt;margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times=
 New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Subject: LF: Grabber<o:p>=
</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3 face=
=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Dear LF !<o:p></=
o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3 face=
=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p=
></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3 face=
=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Just as info, i=
 do some
test with a new grabber.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3 face=
=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>It could be find=
 on <a href=3D"http://www.sm6bhz.com/grabber.html">http://www.sm6bhz.c=
om/grabber.html</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3 face=
=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p=
></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;=
margin-bottom: 12.0pt;margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times=
 New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>73 de Gus<o:p></o:p></spa=
n></font></p>

<div class=3DMsoNormal align=3Dcenter style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt;text=
-align:center'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'=
font-size:12.0pt'>

<hr size=3D2 width=3D"100%" align=3Dcenter>

</span></font></div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3 face=
=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p=
></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3 face=
=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>No virus found=
 in this
incoming message.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3 face=
=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Checked by AVG=
 - <a href=3D"http://www.avg.com">www.avg.com</a> <o:p></o:p></span></=
font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;=
margin-bottom: 12.0pt;margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times=
 New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Version: 8.5.339 / Virus=
 Database: 270.12.91/2201 -
Release Date: 06/25/09 06:22:00<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'><br>
<br>
<br>
-- <br>
G3YXM IO92BK <st1:City w:st=3D"on">Birmingham</st1:City> <st1:country-=
region w:st=3D"on"><st1:place w:st=3D"on">UK</st1:place></st1:country-=
region><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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Alan, LF,

You wrote - 
"Never put your email address on your web site in clickable form"

Yes, that is exactly what I did some while ago but since removed it but it
was too late :-(

Thanks for your comments.

Cheers,

Gary.



-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Alan Melia
Sent: 23 June 2009 20:06
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: Re: Off Topic - Spam mails.

I am afraid not Gary, I have been seeing these and getting non-delivery
notices for years. I stopped signing my messages with my address when I
realised it was being harvested. Anyone can "forge" an email address
unfortunately which is why BT-Yahoo insists on Authentication being switched
on. Never put your email address on your web site in clickable form...use an
image. I made this mistake when i fiirst put my web site up in 2002.

Cheers de Alan G3NYK


----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
To: "LF -RSGB LF Group" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 6:40 PM
Subject: LF: Off Topic - Spam mails.


> Hi All,
>
>
>
> This is a bit worrying, I am getting spam e-mails using my e-mail address
> (this one - g4wgt) as the source/return address. I have already had a post
> from some one in Germany querying the validity of the return mail address
so
> many others must be getting them also.
>
>
>
> Is there some way to resolve this issue, stop it happening or notify some
> authority or what-ever?
>
>
>
> 73,
>
>
>
> Gary - G4WGT - IO83QO.
>
>
>
>




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Back on 502.5 cq test de g7nks

Tx on a 2 min cycle

Jim G7NKS



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Dear All,

G7NKS active on 503KHz at 21.20 BST/20.20 UTC  sending CW @ 5wpm   "CQ Test
de G7NKS"

Thanks for any reports


Jim



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Thank's Andy

Its been a very interesting facility ,

May be one of the  EI stations could run in one of the  time slots over 
night to  give a east  west  plot ? ,

Tnx- Graham .

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>
> My beacon on 503.7kHz is back on.  04/19/34/49 minutes past the hour
> ~+25dBm EIRP.  Callsign, power steps, full power carrier 25 - 30
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> Andy
> www.g4jnt.com
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>



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Hello Nicolas,

Many thanks indeed.
This was just the information I was looking for.

73,
Roelof, pa0rdt



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Dear Alan

Many apologies for the mess up! It wasn't my intention to hijack and I just
didn't think.  

Sorry to the group for any confusion or hassles caused 


With best regards

Jim
 
Dr. James Cowburn
G7NKS
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Alan Melia
Sent: 05 June 2009 00:18
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Subject: Re: LF: G7NKS (was XGJ)

Jim Please DO NOT hi-jack a subject line by using the reply button to send a
new message. The result is a thread of messages that have nothing to do with
Warren WD2XGJ and I almost didnt read them.

Please start a new thread with the "Create Message" button. You will need to
remember to have the posting address in your address book. All you need to
do here is right click on the "TO" line on an incoming refelctor message and
accept "Add to address book".

The subject line is extremely useful for searching old mail and "hijacked
subjects" prevent its proper use.

Thanks
Alan G3NYK
----- Original Message -----
From: "James Cowburn" <james.cowburn@virgin.net>
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> Dear All,
>
> G7NKS active on 503KHz at 21.20 BST/20.20 UTC  sending CW @ 5wpm   "CQ
Test
> de G7NKS"
>
> Thanks for any reports
>
>
> Jim
>
>



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Hello Jim ,

James Moritz a =E9crit :
> Any reports very welcome,
Your signal is virtually identical to this after midday , the ratio sign=20
/ noise is around : 22 dB .
I cannot give absolute value because there is a ACG in the RX .

73 Jean-Pierre f1afj

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Back in 1997 we temporarily activated a 400 foot ex AM broadcast mast 
at Kumara on the West Coast of the South Island. With an SSB signal at 
around 100 watts PEP into the mast, we had good LF propagation (i.e. 
good reports) in  the westerly direction to Tasmania until quite late 
in the morning- circa 9.30 or so local NZ time, which would have 
corresponded  approximately to the onset of daylight over the complete 
path to VK7. The distance was roughly 2200km in a more or less 
northwest  direction from ZL.

We were working crossband, with VK7RO operating on 40 metres, so it 
was readily apparent that the LF signals on 182 kHz disappeared fairly 
quickly, having been pretty consistent up to that time, over a fully 
dark and then a partially dark path.   Signals were down an S point or 
so from the 'fully dark path' levels  which had been 5/9/9 on CW and 
5/9 on SSB, but were still quite impressive.

 I found this result somewhat surprising at the time and still do.

Would have been great to have that QTH set up as a permanent LF tx 
site, it was absolutely magnificent! They demoloshed the mast a few 
months later. I have a video of the mast coming down- spectacular to 
watch/hear, but also disappointing.

73
Dave, ZL3FJ


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Alan Melia" <alan.melia@btinternet.com>
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Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2009 10:48 PM
Subject: LF: Re: 500kHz Diurnal Noise Variation


> Hi Richard,
> I think the noise variation is very similar to that on 136k and 
> relates to
> the position of the the dawn/disk edge. In the morning as the dawn 
> sweeps
> west across Europe the night-time skywave delivery of all this noise 
> (both
> atmospheric and man-made) is wiped out by D-layer absorption. We in 
> the UK
> get no noise from the west as its is mainly water. (the condition is 
> exactly
> the opposite on the East coast of the States). There seems to be 
> less
> lightning over water too.
>
> The catch is that just around dawn there is a very quite 
> period....this is
> very encouraging and many have tried to make good DX in that period
> .....unsuccessfully. I believe that this period is dogged by intense
> absorbtion because at dawn the D-layer is first illuminated from 
> underneath
> (NM6M Bob Brown QST about 1999) by solar rays that have grazed the 
> ground
> before impinging on the D-layer about 1000km W of the ground dawn 
> line. Thus
> in this quiet period there is just no propagation by skywave so that 
> DX is
> not possible. Quite often the best time has been just before (say 60 
> mins)
> dawn (at mid path)before the absorption starts.. N<>S paths are more
> seriously affected than E<>W paths.
>
> Once the sun rises and the ionosphere is illuminated from above then 
> normal
> daytime skywave returns slowly with the best singnals around mid-day 
> at
> mid-path. 500k is complicate dby the possibility of two "reflection 
> heights"
> which give rise to the deep daytime fading not seen on 136kHz, 
> though this
> my only occur later in the day.
>
> There are difference between 136 and 500k but I think the noise 
> problem is
> similar.
>
> Best of luck
> Alan G3NYK
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Richard Newstead" <g3cwi@btconnect.com>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2009 9:39 AM
> Subject: LF: 500kHz Diurnal Noise Variation
>
>
>> I wonder if anyone has attempted to plot the diurnal noise levels 
>> on
>> 500kHz? I wonder if, for instance, very early on a Sunday morning 
>> is
>> particularly quiet?
>>
>> 73
>>
>> Richard
>> G3CWI
>>
>>
>
>


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Tnx Niels
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Hello Alberto,

it is just out of curiosity what can be heard by such a system (feed  
the antenna signal into an ADC and let some software do the rest).

On LF there is more that MW broadcast. Around 400kHz I could copy half  
a dozen NDB's, best "DX" was Berlin (DLS) at almost 450km.
Taking into account that most NDB's run an ERP that is not so much  
more that an amateur station it should have some perspective ...

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T


Quoting Alberto di Bene <dibene@usa.net>:

>> Just don't expect the same sensitivity from such a WEBSDR as from
>> some grabbers dedicated to 500kHz.
>>
>> 73, Rik  ON7YD
>
> Rik,
>
>    don't you have better ways to waste your time ???
>
> 73  Alberto  I2PHD
>
>
>
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Dear All,
 
Just firing up now. got delayed by XYL!
 
With best regards
 
Dr. James Cowburn

  _____  

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham
Sent: 06 June 2009 21:26
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: G7NKS on tonite 502.5


James,
 
Nothing  from the  speaker  at io83lk, I can see a trace at Birmingham >
http://www.wireless.org.uk/grab/  , which is 75 miles closer to  you  than
my qth 
 
I can see a trace using  spec-lab , but that is 100 Hz lower ...and very low
, looks like a cw signal , but only  just over the noise ...are you  'spot
on'  502.500 ? 
 
>From past qso's with  Chris, I think you  are just outside the ground wave
range , with  signals showing at Birmingham but  not 75 miles on, its a pity
John has 
closed his Shetland monitor, you may of  shown there 
 
73 Graham
G0NBD

From: James Cowburn <mailto:james.cowburn@virgin.net>  
Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2009 8:56 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org 
Subject: LF: G7NKS on tonite 502.5

Dear All,
 
G7NKS back on 502.5 tonight "CQ TEST de G7NKS" at 7wpm  
 
thanks for any reports
 
Jim
 


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<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D718340721-06062009><FONT face=3DAr=
ial  color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Just firing up now. got delayed by XYL!</FONT>=
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<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>With best regards</FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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=20
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] <B>On Behalf Of=20
</B>Graham<BR><B>Sent:</B> 06 June 2009 21:26<BR><B>To:</B>=20
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502.5<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>James,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Nothing&nbsp;&nbsp;from the&nbsp; speaker &=
nbsp;at=20
io83lk, I can see a trace at Birmingham &gt; <A  title=3D"http://www.wireles=
s.org.uk/grab/&#10;CTRL + Click to follow link"  href=3D"http://www.wireless=
.org.uk/grab/">http://www.wireless.org.uk/grab/</A>&nbsp;=20
, which is 75 miles closer to&nbsp; you&nbsp; than my qth </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I can see a trace using&nbsp; spec-lab , bu=
t that=20
is 100 Hz lower ...and very low , looks like a cw signal , but only&nbsp; ju=
st=20
over the noise ...are you&nbsp; 'spot on' &nbsp;502.500 ? </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>From past qso's with&nbsp; Chris, I think y=
ou&nbsp;=20
are just outside the ground wave range , with&nbsp; signals showing at=20
Birmingham but&nbsp; not 75 miles on, its a pity John has </FONT></DIV>
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p; shown=20
there </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>7</FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>3=20
Graham</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>G0NBD</FONT><BR></DIV>
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urn@virgin.net&#10;CTRL + Click to follow link"  href=3D"mailto:james.cowbur=
n@virgin.net">James Cowburn</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, June 06, 2009 8:56 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A  title=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org&#10;CTRL +=20=
Click to follow link"  href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_=
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</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> LF: G7NKS on tonite 502.5</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN class=3D906485219-06062009>Dear=20
All,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN  class=3D906485219-06062009></SPAN></=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN class=3D906485219-06062009>G7NKS back=
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tonight "CQ TEST de G7NKS" at 7wpm&nbsp; </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN  class=3D906485219-06062009></SPAN></=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN class=3D906485219-06062009>thanks for=
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reports</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN  class=3D906485219-06062009></SPAN></=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN  class=3D906485219-06062009>Jim</SPAN=
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That was one reason for the continuous transmission. The other end picked 
the most suitable frequency, then called and an exchange of traffic began.
White Plains and other similar stations listened on a number of spot 
frequencies for replies. No scanning in those days, just a bank of receivers 
one on each frequency.
mal/g3kev

----- Original Message ----- 
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Subject: Re: LF: WHITE PLAINS


> 1960.  One of the first receptions I heard was a transmission that kept
> repeating a message something like this:  This is a test transmission for
> circuit adjustment purposes.

Yes that was the only transmission I recall hearing from them.
It made me wonder why someone would put up a station just for 'circuit
adjustment purposes' and nothing else.
I wondered what kind of circuit would need such constant adjustment!
Looking back I suppose that they transmitted on several frequencies
simultaneously and the purpose of the constant transmissions was so
that the receiving stations could pick the best frequency for the
conditions.

-- 
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
                WE2XEB/2
                WE2XGR/1




On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Dexter McIntyre W4DEX<dmcintyre@att.net> 
wrote:
> My first short wave receiver was a Knight Kit Star Roamer I built around
> 1960. One of the first receptions I heard was a transmission that kept
> repeating a message something like this: This is a test transmission for
> circuit adjustment purposes. This transmission originated form an office 
> of
> the American Telephone and Telegraph Company and is located near White
> Plains New York. I received this signal from time to time for many years 
> on
> several different frequencies. Many years later while reminiscing about 
> our
> past radio experiences with a retired AT&T engineer I asked him about the
> test transmission. He recalled hearing the same signals which he believed
> was for the HF High Seas Radiotelephone Service. I've never found any
> information about a White Plains site but there is some documentation 
> online
> about several other AT&T High Seas HF Radio locations.
>
> Dex
>
> mal hamilton wrote:
>>
>> I remember a radio station on HF SSB years ago WHITE PLAINS. Where is 
>> that
>> located, somewhere in the USA.
>> De mal/g3kev
>>
>
>
>



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Jim,

I can hear the first 4 signal levels consistently. On 100mW I would say you
are peaking about RST 5 7 9 .

Chris, G3XVL
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RX Icom 706
 Ant:inverted L at 10 mtrs.


2009/6/9 James Moritz <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>

> Dear LF Group,
>
> As art of continuing investigations into antennas, grounds, etc., I am
> running a beacon at the moment on 503.5kHz - I am testing a small "/P"
> antenna similar to what G3CWI proposed to use a couple of weeks back. It is
> a 9m high "umbrella" with 4 x 5m long top loading wires sloping at about
> 45degrees. Ground system is 4 x 20m radial wires.
>
> The beacon is transmitting an 8wpm CW identifier, followed by five 5 second
> dashes at reducing power levels in steps of 6dB. The maximum ERP is
> somewhere in the region of 100mW ERP. The sequence repeats every 2 mins
> roughly.
>
> I'll leave it running until after dark at least - any reports would be very
> welcome.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
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Jim,<br><br>I can hear the first 4 signal levels consistently. On 100mW I wo=
uld say you are peaking about RST 5 7 9 .<br><br>Chris, G3XVL<br>Ipswich, Su=
ffolk (JO02NB)<br><br>RX Icom 706<br>=A0Ant:inverted L at 10 mtrs.<br><br>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/6/9 James Moritz <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<=
a href=3D"mailto:james.moritz@btopenworld.com">james.moritz@btopenworld.com<=
/a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1p=
x solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Dear LF Group,<br>
<br>
As art of continuing investigations into antennas, grounds, etc., I am runni=
ng a beacon at the moment on 503.5kHz - I am testing a small &quot;/P&quot;=20=
antenna similar to what G3CWI proposed to use a couple of weeks back. It is=20=
a 9m high &quot;umbrella&quot; with 4 x 5m long top loading wires sloping at=
 about 45degrees. Ground system is 4 x 20m radial wires.<br>

<br>
The beacon is transmitting an 8wpm CW identifier, followed by five 5 second=20=
dashes at reducing power levels in steps of 6dB. The maximum ERP is somewher=
e in the region of 100mW ERP. The sequence repeats every 2 mins roughly.<br>

<br>
I&#39;ll leave it running until after dark at least - any reports would be v=
ery welcome.<br>
<br>
Cheers, Jim Moritz<br>
73 de M0BMU <br>
<br>
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Am I the only person that can hear OZ8NJ on the 500 Khz band. ? a nice signa=
l for a CW QSO. Pse QSO mode om
de g3kev

  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Good signal on 500 Khz band on CW beacon. Pse QSO mode
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James Moritz wrote:
> Dear Dave, Ken, Dave, Rik, Pete, LF Group,
>
> Thanks for the reports on the beacon signal. If nothing else, it is at 
> least a viable 500kHz TX antenna - as well as the reports, it is 
> showing up reasonably well on the G3YXM and G4WGT grabbers. I have now 
> closed down at 2206utc.
>
>
Hi Jim

I was out so I missed the tests last night. What ATU configuration did 
you use? My system is just awaiting a suitable day for initial tests.

73

Richard
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Dear Niels and group!

This evening me and OZ8NJ have a CW QSO, QRG 502,55 kHz.
Strong signal from OZ8NJ !
Well done and thanks QSO Niels!

73 de Gus SM6BHZ

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Jim,

I heard Chris working you, but nothing at all from you (not even =20
traces on the Argo screen).
Chris was 559 here, so your ERP must have been at least 15dB below =20
that of G3XIZ.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T


Quoting James Cowburn <james.cowburn@virgin.net>:

> Hi Jim
>
> Many thnx. Was in Qso with Chris G3Xix. Not long range as he is also in
> Biggleswade. 1st 600m Qso so dead chuffed!
>
> Just need to study up on antennas and matching so as to get more in the
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> Jim G7NKS
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of James Moritz
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> Dear Jim,
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> Just audible here, about RST 229 at about 2050utc on 502.65kHz.
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> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
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>> Dear All,
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>> G7NKS active on 503KHz at 21.20 BST/20.20 UTC  sending CW @ 5wpm   "CQ
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Dear Gerhard, LF Group,

Sorry you have had no luck so far - I'm sure improvements will be possible. 
I will leave the beacon running a little longer - I have QSY'ed to 
137.690kHz so you can see how the signal appears on DF6NM's 137kHz grabber 
at http://freenet-homepage.de/df6nm/Grabber.htm (Markus seems to have had 
the same idea ;-)). As you can see, there is a lot of QRN, but the signal is 
reasonably strong in JN59.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU 



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Hi James, Hello group!

Thanks a lot for your efforts, but still no copy here. I watched out for
the beacon until now but I have a lot of QRN/M. Something is basically
wrong with my RX-design and I have to think about that. As I wrote in my
last mail, the L-filter improved things but it still seems to be not
enough. I have to think about getting rid of QRM/N by better shielding.
I think most of the noise is generated nearby.

My efforts on receiving your signal are very simple and "primitive" but
thats what is is about! Isn't it?

Cheers and gn

de OE3GHB

Gerhard





Am Sonntag, den 21.06.2009, 21:07 +0100 schrieb James Moritz:
> Dear Gerhard, LF Group,
> 
> The beacon is now running again at 2000utc, as before in DFCW mode centered 
> on 137.680kHz. I will leave it running for a few hours at least. It is still 
> quite light here, so I expect signal levels will increase over time. As 
> expected, QRN has increased, too...
> 
> Any reports very welcome,
> 
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
> 
> 
> 



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Hello Marcin, LF!
Thanks for your receiving report. Your comparison of beacon signals is inter=
esting. My beacon still using 1W ERP.=20

73

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

***********************

> From: bxi@go2.pl
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 01:00:09 +0200
> Subject: LF: MF: beacon reports
>=20
> Hello!
> Very good copy today MF beacons (23:00 UTC):
> 500kHz SK6RUD 569
> 505,5kHz  SM6BHZ 579/57
> 505,180kHz DI2AM 549
> 505,060kHz OK0EMW 539
> --
> Vy 73!
> Marcin SQ2BXI
> QTH: big city Gda=F1sk, JO94GJ
> RX: IC-746
> Antenna: HF long windom 83m, max hight 20m
>=20
>=20

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acon signals is interesting. My beacon still using 1W ERP. <br><br>73<br><br=
>Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS<br><br>***********************<br><br>&gt; From: bxi@=
go2.pl<br>&gt; To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<br>&gt; Date: Wed, 3 Jun 200=
9 01:00:09 +0200<br>&gt; Subject: LF: MF: beacon reports<br>&gt; <br>&gt; He=
llo!<br>&gt; Very good copy today MF beacons (23:00 UTC):<br>&gt; 500kHz SK6=
RUD 569<br>&gt; 505,5kHz  SM6BHZ 579/57<br>&gt; 505,180kHz DI2AM 549<br>&gt;=
 505,060kHz OK0EMW 539<br>&gt; --<br>&gt; Vy 73!<br>&gt; Marcin SQ2BXI<br>&g=
t; QTH: big city Gda=F1sk, JO94GJ<br>&gt; RX: IC-746<br>&gt; Antenna: HF lon=
g windom 83m, max hight 20m<br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br><br /><hr />Bu=EFte v konta=
ktu se sv=FDmi p=F8=E1teli z Facebooku a Hotmailu <a href=3D'http://profile.=
live.com/connect/?mkt=3Dcz-cz' target=3D'_new'>Klikni zde!</a></body>
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Dear Gus, LF Group,

Just heard SM6BHZ calling CQ on 503.0kHz at around 2208utc, RST 569, so 
guess licence conditions have changed in SM... unfortunately, not really in 
a position to reply here at the moment, due to antenna experiments.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
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Warren
Move to the UK the WX recently has been fb and OFCOM is user friendly 
regarding licences for LF and MF.
De mal/g3kev

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Warren Ziegler" <wd2xgj@gmail.com>
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Graham, Lubos,

    Thank you for the comments, I'm not sure if sunspots are a good
thing at LF - might cause more geomagnetic disturbances which could
hurt propagation.
    The weather has been very bad here, storms, rain, humidity and no 
sunshine!
    Not good for operating.

-- 
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
                WE2XEB/2
                WE2XGR/1



2009/6/25 Lubos OK2BVG <bvgbob@hotmail.com>:
> Hello Warren, LF!
> That is FB news, thank you for it! I will apply for a new permission last
> month. I hope, that all will be OK. OK0EMW is on the air every night. But 
> it
> depens on the weather, of course.
>
> 73!
>
> Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS
>
> ************************************************
>
>> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 13:53:29 -0400
>> From: wd2xgj@gmail.com
>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; lowfer@mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: LF: WD2XGJ
>>
>> The FCC has just renewed WD2XGJ for another 5 years!
>>
>> 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ
>>
>
> ________________________________
> Bute v kontaktu se svmi pteli z Facebooku a Hotmailu Klikni zde!



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Dear Pedro, LF Group,

You are currently peaking about 549, with the usual deep QSB. QTH is 
Hatfield, 25km north of London, Loc IO91VR.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU

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Hi Jean-Pierre,

  Yes a short test (3 minutes!). Nothing escapes you!
The weather has been very stormy for many days so it has not been good
to operate.
--=20
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
                WE2XEB/2
                WE2XGR/1


On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 3:18 AM, "Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9
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> Hi Warren , LF ,
>
> Just a short test at 01:35 ! =A0( but I saw it ! hi hi ...... =A0)
>
> 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj
>

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Hello all,

Excellent copy in a 500 Hz bandwidth this morning in the Netherlands.
The signal was - 90 dBm, with the bandnoise around - 105 dBm.

Receiver: PERSEUS SDR
Antenna : mini-whip

Best regards,
Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt

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Hello group,

I just discovered that the European grossist for electronic parts has 
500 kc ceramic resonators in their range for less than half a Euro.  
this is a great building block for a tunable 500 kHz transmitter.  I 
ordered some for test purposes to see how far they can e pulled.
Unfortunately they don't sell direct to customers, only to retailers.


Pedro

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Incidentially I saw 500kHz resonators  
at Conrad.de for 0,61EUR each and
Reichelt.de for 0,28EUR.

vy73
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Now Now Alberto dont encourage him. I am sure Andy has enough bad habits
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> Andy Talbot wrote:
> >
> > The prog is first attempt at C programming, and going from fervently
> > disliking the language a few days ago (so totally unlike Basic !),  I've
> > now come round to actually quite liking it!
>
> A new convert ! Welcome ! Next step is C++....  :-)
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> 73  Alberto  I2PHD
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Hello LFers!

More modest report from my side:
http://qrss.nm.ru/27jun2009_505/503.99_3_00010.jpg
http://qrss.nm.ru/27jun2009_505/503.99_3_00019.jpg

* Andrey rn3agc <rn3agc@mail.ru> [Sat, 27 Jun 2009 14:54:45 +0400]:
> Hi Lubos, Joerg, LF,
> capture last night..
> DI2AM ~ 22.10z http://rn3agc.msk.ru/am.jpg
> OK0EMW ~ 22.10z http://rn3agc.msk.ru/emw.jpg
> SK6RUD ~ 22.55z http://rn3agc.msk.ru/rud.jpg
>
> 73
>

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Hello Andrey!

Thanks for receiving informations! They are very useful.

 

73!

 

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

 

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> From: rn3agc@mail.ru
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 14:54:45 +0400
> Subject: LF: LF: reports [500khz]
> 
> Hi Lubos, Joerg, LF,
> capture last night..
> DI2AM ~ 22.10z http://rn3agc.msk.ru/am.jpg
> OK0EMW ~ 22.10z http://rn3agc.msk.ru/emw.jpg
> SK6RUD ~ 22.55z http://rn3agc.msk.ru/rud.jpg
> 
> 73
> 

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<br><br>&gt; From: rn3agc@mail.ru<br>&gt; To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<br>&gt; Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 14:54:45 +0400<br>&gt; Subject: LF: LF: reports [500khz]<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Hi Lubos, Joerg, LF,<br>&gt; capture last night..<br>&gt; DI2AM ~ 22.10z http://rn3agc.msk.ru/am.jpg<br>&gt; OK0EMW ~ 22.10z http://rn3agc.msk.ru/emw.jpg<br>&gt; SK6RUD ~ 22.55z http://rn3agc.msk.ru/rud.jpg<br>&gt; <br>&gt; 73<br>&gt; <br><br /><hr />Pethnte si fotografie pmo do chatu v Messenger. Jak se do dl. <a href='http://download.live.com/messenger' target='_new'>Klikni zde!</a></body>
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Hi Rick there is a problem building a sharp ladder filter with 500 or 455
kHz resonators. I have played with a number. the difficulty seems to stem
from the fact that to get a narow filter you have to design for a filter
impedance of around 250 to 300ohms. then when you conside the ESR of the
resonators of say 40 to 70 ohms and 5 in series you have a lot of loss
through the filter. The best I managed at 455khz was about 800Hz pass band,
but a lot of insertion loss. I think a more promising format is to use the
resonators in shunt (parrallel resonance) with top coupling. I think the
late Jan Noedling  LA2AK had some information on his web pages which I
believe are still available. I have not tried that yet.

Rapid Electronics does wire ended ceramic resonators for between 10p and 20p
(exVAT)each in singles and discounts lots of 25  by a further 10% or more.
No Min order but 3 postage on oders less that 30
www.rapidonline.com
Best Wishes
Alan G3NYK


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> Pedro,
>
> I have a VXO with a 4MHz ceramic resonator. That signal is divided by
> 8. Range is 500.5 - 506kHz.
> see
> http://wireless.org.uk/500k_tx.gif
> http://wireless.org.uk/qtx.htm
>
> 4MHz cer. resonators are available at less than 1 Euro in almost
> every electronic shop.
>
> 500kHz cer. resonators however could be interesting to build a sharp
> RX-input filter (cfr xtal ladder filter)
>
> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
>
>
> At 14:50 15/06/2009, you wrote:
> >Hello group,
> >
> >I just discovered that the European grossist for electronic parts has
> >500 kc ceramic resonators in their range for less than half a Euro.
> >this is a great building block for a tunable 500 kHz transmitter.  I
> >ordered some for test purposes to see how far they can e pulled.
> >Unfortunately they don't sell direct to customers, only to retailers.
> >
> >
> >Pedro
> >
> >www.nedis.com
>
>



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LF,
I've nearly completed my new PA for 500 kHz and have now managed to
stop destroying FET's.

Unfortunately I have an unusual problem in that the heatsink cooling fans
are going U/S.

I have used 24 volts brushless PC-type fans and after a while they
either die completely or start to go backwards slowly. . .

The fans may be slightly over-run but only by a volt or so and on key-up=20
(unregulated supply) and are situated about 50 mm (2 inches) from the heatsi=
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I have rf decoupled them from the supply but=A0maybe not well enough !

Any suggestions=A0in curing this problem would be most welcome.

73 Chris G3XIZ


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<DIV>I have rf decoupled them from the supply but&nbsp;maybe not well enough=
 !</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Any suggestions&nbsp;in curing this problem would be most welcome.</DIV=
>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>73 Chris G3XIZ</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></div><br>



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Dear Pedro, LF Group,

Was not at home last night, but will be around tonight and tomorrow night - 
I now have my normal 500kHz antenna back in place, so should be a reasonable 
signal.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU

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Hi Henny , very good capture ! thank you
 73 J-P f1afj

henny van elst a =E9crit :
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> strong signal AFJ
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Hello Warren, LF!
I saw XGJ signal this morning. Thanks for your transmitting, receiving was v=
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Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

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Hello Marcin!
There were some storms here as well. Thanks for reception report!

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

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> From: bxi@go2.pl
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> Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 01:49:36 +0200
> Subject: LF: 500kHz beacon reports
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> Dear All,
> More QRN and QSB today...
> Copy only QRSS beacon:  DI2AM OK0EMW.
> SK6RUD normal CW - 337
> SM6BHZ -  nil
> --
> Vy 73!
> Marcin SQ2BXI

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Hello Marcin!<br>There were some storms here as well. Thanks for reception report!<br><br>Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS<br><br>*********************<br><br>&gt; From: bxi@go2.pl<br>&gt; To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<br>&gt; Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 01:49:36 +0200<br>&gt; Subject: LF: 500kHz beacon reports<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Dear All,<br>&gt; More QRN and QSB today...<br>&gt; Copy only QRSS beacon:  DI2AM OK0EMW.<br>&gt; SK6RUD normal CW - 337<br>&gt; SM6BHZ -  nil<br>&gt; --<br>&gt; Vy 73!<br>&gt; Marcin SQ2BXI<br><br /><hr />Pethnte si fotografie pmo do chatu v Messenger. Jak se do dl. <a href='http://download.live.com/messenger' target='_new'>Klikni zde!</a></body>
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James Moritz wrote:
>
> Over the last few days I have been doing some experiments with ground 
> systems with my LF/MF antenna.
>
>
Jim

Thank you for your detailed and well thought out review of earthing - 
the experimental results were especially interesting. I am intrigued 
about loaded radials in that the loading is effectively supplied by the 
inductor in the ATU circuit. There was no sign that such an approach 
worked on my last trip but possibly the inductance was insufficient. I 
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Hi Lubos! 

Thanks for replying and for providing the signal :)
Tonight beetween coming home and bedtime I tuned the RX to Your OK0EMW beacon as well:


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QTH Berlin city JO62RM
RX homemade simple superhet
IF-bandwidth abt 150Hz
ANT wireloop abt 15sqm, 
10m agl. in a linden tree
"pointing Iceland" = NW/SE
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OK0EMW observed 13.VI.2009 from 21:16Z - 22:36Z
At the beginning of the 80min period rather a grass roots signal, disappearing in the noise, sometimes up RST 339.
At the end of the observing time mostly a solid signal, RST say 559.

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Hello Rik,

Copied your CQ_Call in regular CW-Mode on 502,4 kc with about 449 in JN59LN

vy 73 de Gerhard  //  DK6NI

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Hi Jim G7NKS
=A0
Nothing heard 22:15-22:30.=A0in =A0IO91UX
=A0
Other Jim
=A0
M0BMU very strong here sending test, callsign and locator plus CW carrier le=
vels.
=A0
73 =A0Petefmt

--- On Tue, 9/6/09, James Cowburn <james.cowburn@virgin.net> wrote:


From: James Cowburn <james.cowburn@virgin.net>
Subject: LF: G7NKS on 502.10
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Tuesday, 9 June, 2009, 10:14 PM



Dear All,
=A0
last nights "rough note" due to soon to blow (now blown) linear PSU for Icom=
! new PSU in situ and up and running. TX on 502.5 "CQ test de G7NKS"=20
=A0
Thanks for any reports
=A0
Jim G7NKS (learning lots!)
=A0

__________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature=20=
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<table cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" border=3D"0" ><tr><td valign=3D"t=
op" style=3D"font: inherit;"><DIV>Hi Jim G7NKS</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Nothing heard 22:15-22:30.&nbsp;in &nbsp;IO91UX</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Other Jim</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>M0BMU very strong here sending test, callsign and locator plus CW carri=
er levels.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>73 &nbsp;Petefmt<BR><BR>--- On <B>Tue, 9/6/09, James Cowburn <I>&lt;jam=
es.cowburn@virgin.net&gt;</I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5p=
x; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><BR>From: James Cowburn &lt;james.cowburn@virgin.net&gt=
;<BR>Subject: LF: G7NKS on 502.10<BR>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR>Dat=
e: Tuesday, 9 June, 2009, 10:14 PM<BR><BR>
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D203364220-09062009><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Dear All,<=
/FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D203364220-09062009><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT></S=
PAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D203364220-09062009><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>last night=
s "rough note" due to soon to blow (now blown) linear PSU for Icom! new PSU=20=
in situ and up and running. TX on 502.5 "CQ test de G7NKS" </FONT></SPAN></D=
IV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D203364220-09062009><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT></S=
PAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D203364220-09062009><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Thanks for=
 any reports</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D203364220-09062009><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT></S=
PAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D203364220-09062009><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Jim G7NKS=20=
(learning lots!)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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Rik Strobbe wrote:
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> it is just out of curiosity what can be heard by such a system (feed  
> the antenna signal into an ADC and let some software do the rest).

Rik,

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Dear all,

Thanks for any info.=20
It seems that the grabber 2 and grabber 136 kHz appear in the same way=
, only works in IE.=20
I shut down all three grabbers until I found a solution.=20

73 de Gus SM6BHZ
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Rik Strobbe=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 10:34 AM
  Subject: Re: LF: Grabber


  Dave, Gus,

  I noticed it too.
  The picture (in jpeg format) is saved with an .html extension.
  It seems that only IE looks into the code and recognizes the jpeg fo=
rmat, other browser don't check and just display it as text.

  You can check it:=20
  - let Firefox (or any other browser) show the source code=20
  - save the source using the "save as"  option
  - in "save as" select the "all files" (or "all extensions" ? .. sorr=
y my OS is Dutch, but it is the last option) option
  - change the name into grabber.jpg
  - browse to the file and double click on it, it should open as a jpe=
g in your default viewer

  73, Rik  ON7YD

  At 09:35 26/06/2009, you wrote:

    Gus

    I just get a screen full of random characters in Firefox.
    In Internet Explorer (which I don't use) it works OK.

    Dave G3YXM

    2009/6/25 Gus <begu@algonet.se>

      Graham, after some test it will be permanent !!



      Gus

        ----- Original Message -----=20

        From: Graham=20

        To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20

        Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 12:45 AM

        Subject: Re: LF: Grabber


        Gus ...  is this permanent on line ?



        I will add to the  grabbers page on uk500khz



        tnx - Graham .=20


        From: Gus=20

        Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 11:07 PM

        To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20

        Subject: LF: Grabber


        Dear LF !



        Just as info, i do some test with a new grabber.

        It could be find on http://www.sm6bhz.com/grabber.html



        73 de Gus


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<DIV>Dear all,</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Thanks for any info. <BR>It seems that the grabber 2 and grabber=
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appear in the same way, only works in IE. <BR>I shut down all three gr=
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until I found a solution. <BR><BR>73 de Gus SM6BHZ</DIV>
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e@fys.kuleuven.be">Rik Strobbe</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@=
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AM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: Grabber</DIV=
>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>Dave, Gus,<BR><BR>I noticed it too.<BR>The picture (i=
n jpeg=20
  format) is saved with an .html extension.<BR>It seems that only IE=
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  the code and recognizes the jpeg format, other browser don't check=
 and just=20
  display it as text.<BR><BR>You can check it: <BR>- let Firefox (or=
 any other=20
  browser) show the source code <BR>- save the source using the "save=
 as"&nbsp;=20
  option<BR>- in "save as" select the "all files" (or "all extensions"=
 ? ..=20
  sorry my OS is Dutch, but it is the last option) option<BR>- change=
 the name=20
  into grabber.jpg<BR>- browse to the file and double click on it, it=
 should=20
  open as a jpeg in your default viewer<BR><BR>73, Rik&nbsp; ON7YD<BR>=
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 get a screen=20
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      <DD>Graham, after some test it will be permanent !!<BR>
      <DD><BR>&nbsp;
      <DD><FONT color=3D#888888 size=3D4>Gus<BR></I></B></FONT>
      <DL>
        <DD>----- Original Message ----- <BR>
        <DD>From:</B> <A href=3D"mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk">Graha=
m</A> <BR>
        <DD>To:</B> <A           href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blackshe=
ep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
        <BR>
        <DD>Sent:</B> Friday, June 26, 2009 12:45 AM<BR>
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        <DD><FONT size=3D2>Gus ...&nbsp; is this permanent on line ?<B=
R></FONT>
        <DD><BR>&nbsp;
        <DD><FONT size=3D2>I will add to the&nbsp; grabbers page on=20
        uk500khz<BR></FONT>
        <DD><BR>&nbsp;
        <DD><FONT size=3D2>tnx - Graham . <BR></FONT><BR>
        <DD>From:</B> <A href=3D"mailto:begu@algonet.se">Gus</A> <BR>
        <DD>Sent:</B> Thursday, June 25, 2009 11:07 PM<BR>
        <DD>To:</B> <A           href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blackshe=
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        <BR>
        <DD>Subject:</B> LF: Grabber<BR><BR>
        <DD>Dear LF !<BR></I></B>
        <DD><BR>&nbsp;
        <DD>Just as info, i do some test with a new grabber.<BR>
        <DD>It could be find on <A           href=3D"http://www.sm6bhz=
.com/grabber.html">http://www.sm6bhz.com/grabber.html</A><BR></I></B>
        <DD><BR>&nbsp;
        <DD>73 de Gus<BR></I></B><BR>
        <HR>
        <BR>
        <DD>No virus found in this incoming message.<BR>
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Dave, Gus,

I noticed it too.
The picture (in jpeg format) is saved with an .html extension.
It seems that only IE looks into the code and recognizes the jpeg 
format, other browser don't check and just display it as text.

You can check it:
- let Firefox (or any other browser) show the source code
- save the source using the "save as"  option
- in "save as" select the "all files" (or "all extensions" ? .. sorry 
my OS is Dutch, but it is the last option) option
- change the name into grabber.jpg
- browse to the file and double click on it, it should open as a jpeg 
in your default viewer

73, Rik  ON7YD

At 09:35 26/06/2009, you wrote:
>Gus
>
>I just get a screen full of random characters in Firefox.
>In Internet Explorer (which I don't use) it works OK.
>
>Dave G3YXM
>
>2009/6/25 Gus <<mailto:begu@algonet.se>begu@algonet.se>
>Graham, after some test it will be permanent !!
>
>Gus
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>Graham
>To: <mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 12:45 AM
>Subject: Re: LF: Grabber
>
>Gus ...  is this permanent on line ?
>
>I will add to the  grabbers page on uk500khz
>
>tnx - Graham .
>
>From: <mailto:begu@algonet.se>Gus
>Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 11:07 PM
>To: <mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>Subject: LF: Grabber
>
>Dear LF !
>
>Just as info, i do some test with a new grabber.
>It could be find on 
><http://www.sm6bhz.com/grabber.html>http://www.sm6bhz.com/grabber.html
>
>73 de Gus
>
>
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>
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Dave, Gus,<br><br>
I noticed it too.<br>
The picture (in jpeg format) is saved with an .html extension.<br>
It seems that only IE looks into the code and recognizes the jpeg format,
other browser don't check and just display it as text.<br><br>
You can check it: <br>
- let Firefox (or any other browser) show the source code <br>
- save the source using the &quot;save as&quot;&nbsp; option<br>
- in &quot;save as&quot; select the &quot;all files&quot; (or &quot;all
extensions&quot; ? .. sorry my OS is Dutch, but it is the last option)
option<br>
- change the name into grabber.jpg<br>
- browse to the file and double click on it, it should open as a jpeg in
your default viewer<br><br>
73, Rik&nbsp; ON7YD<br><br>
At 09:35 26/06/2009, you wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">Gus<br><br>
I just get a screen full of random characters in Firefox.<br>
In Internet Explorer (which I don't use) it works OK.<br><br>
Dave G3YXM<br><br>
2009/6/25 Gus
&lt;<a href="mailto:begu@algonet.se">begu@algonet.se</a>&gt;<br>

<dl>
<dd>Graham, after some test it will be permanent !!<br>

<dd>&nbsp;<br>

<dd><font size=4 color="#888888">Gus<br>
</i></b></font>
<dl>
<dd>----- Original Message ----- <br>

<dd>From:</b> <a href="mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk">Graham</a> <br>

<dd>To:</b>
<a href="mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">
rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a> <br>

<dd>Sent:</b> Friday, June 26, 2009 12:45 AM<br>

<dd>Subject:</b> Re: LF: Grabber<br><br>

<dd><font size=2>Gus ...&nbsp; is this permanent on line ?<br>
</font>
<dd>&nbsp;<br>

<dd><font size=2>I will add to the&nbsp; grabbers page on uk500khz<br>
</font>
<dd>&nbsp;<br>

<dd><font size=2>tnx - Graham . <br>
</font><br>

<dd>From:</b> <a href="mailto:begu@algonet.se">Gus</a> <br>

<dd>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 25, 2009 11:07 PM<br>

<dd>To:</b>
<a href="mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">
rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a> <br>

<dd>Subject:</b> LF: Grabber<br><br>

<dd>Dear LF !<br>
</i></b>
<dd>&nbsp;<br>

<dd>Just as info, i do some test with a new grabber.<br>

<dd>It could be find on
<a href="http://www.sm6bhz.com/grabber.html">
http://www.sm6bhz.com/grabber.html</a><br>
</i></b>
<dd>&nbsp;<br>

<dd>73 de Gus<br>
</i></b><br>
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I guess distance makes a big difference on 500kHz.

I was not in a position to call Pedro last night, but at 2030z ON7WP 
was 559 here in Bracknell IO91PJ. At 2100z he was peaking 579 on the 
meter. Solid copy by ear all the time. There seemed to be nobody else 
on the band to answer his CQs.

73 Dave G3YMC

On 12 Jun 2009 at 21:34, Richard Newstead wrote:

> Gary - G4WGT wrote:
> > Pedro, LF,
> >
> > Seeing some weak traces on 503 kHz, it may be ON7WP ??
> >
> >   
> >
> 
> 2030z the cw is now audible and readable by ear here. Weak at present.
> 
> 73
> 
> Richard
> G3CWI
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> 


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Hello Marcin, Gerhard and LF,

thank's report and info!

73 de Gus SM6BHZ


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Marcin" <bxi@go2.pl>
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Subject: LF: MF: beacon reports


Hello!
Very good copy today MF beacons (23:00 UTC):
500kHz SK6RUD 569
505,5kHz  SM6BHZ 579/57
505,180kHz DI2AM 549
505,060kHz OK0EMW 539
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Antenna: HF long windom 83m, max hight 20m






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Hi Warren , LF ,

Just a short test at 01:20  ( many stormy last night )

73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj


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Hello Jim, and group,

thank's report !

No change in my licence, still the same 501-508 kHz.

73 de Gus SM6BHZ


----- Original Message ----- 
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> Dear Gus, LF Group,
>
> Just heard SM6BHZ calling CQ on 503.0kHz at around 2208utc, RST 569, so 
> guess licence conditions have changed in SM... unfortunately, not really 
> in a position to reply here at the moment, due to antenna experiments.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
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> 





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> Just don't expect the same sensitivity from such a WEBSDR as from
> some grabbers dedicated to 500kHz.
>
> 73, Rik  ON7YD

Rik,

   don't you have better ways to waste your time ???

73  Alberto  I2PHD




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Dear Jim,

yes you were about 3 to 4 V/m here last night - quite a good signal which would have certainly been audible if not for the statics.

The appended clip shows four of your sequence repetitions, as seen in a high resolution 21 mHz FFT - of course not readable but 
still showing consecutive dashes as a line in the upper trace and a gap in the lower one. The emission appears to be phase coherent 
across symbols of the same type, but not across frequency switching. Apparently the shift does not happen to be an exact integer 
multiple of the symbol rate, and after returning to the original frequency the phase has lapsed by some amount.

Best wishes, and thank you for this interesting activity during this short summer night.

Markus, DF6NM


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "James Moritz" <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>
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Subject: Re: LF: Re: 137khz RX-Test


Dear Gerhard, LF Group,

Sorry you have had no luck so far - I'm sure improvements will be possible.
I will leave the beacon running a little longer - I have QSY'ed to
137.690kHz so you can see how the signal appears on DF6NM's 137kHz grabber
at http://freenet-homepage.de/df6nm/Grabber.htm (Markus seems to have had
the same idea ;-)). As you can see, there is a lot of QRN, but the signal is
reasonably strong in JN59.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU



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Lubos,
     Thank you for the capture.
WD2XGJ will be off due to storms.
--=20
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
                WE2XEB/2
                WE2XGR/1


2009/6/2 Lubos OK2BVG <bvgbob@hotmail.com>:
> Hello Warren, LF!
> I saw signal XGJ before sunrice in OK. Nice reception this morning.
>
> Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS
>
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Hello!
Very good copy today MF beacons (23:00 UTC):
500kHz SK6RUD 569
505,5kHz  SM6BHZ 579/57
505,180kHz DI2AM 549
505,060kHz OK0EMW 539
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Vy 73!
Marcin SQ2BXI
QTH: big city Gda=F1sk, JO94GJ
RX: IC-746
Antenna: HF long windom 83m, max hight 20m


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Hello Pedro and team; LF

Your signal is clear audible in JN59LN now (449)

vy 73 de Gerhard  //  DK6NI

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-----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von Pedro M.J. Wyns
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Gesendet: Freitag, 12. Juni 2009 20:31
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; leden1@on4aob.be
Betreff: LF: ON7WP now testing on 503,000 kHz

test signal on air

reports appreciated on 3737 kHz (actually 3739 due to QRM...)

starting CQ for normal CW QSO on 19:00 utc and later

from 01:00 UTC CQ in QRSS 10

Pedro and team...





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Dear LF !

Just as info, i do some test with a new grabber.
It could be find on http://www.sm6bhz.com/grabber.html

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Hello J-P,Lf
strong signal AFJ
Henny pa3cpm
73s
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Gus

I just get a screen full of random characters in Firefox.
In Internet Explorer (which I don't use) it works OK.

Dave G3YXM

2009/6/25 Gus <begu@algonet.se>

>  *Graham, after some test it will be permanent !!*
> * *
> *Gus*
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
> *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> *Sent:* Friday, June 26, 2009 12:45 AM
> *Subject:* Re: LF: Grabber
>
> Gus ...  is this permanent on line ?
>
> I will add to the  grabbers page on uk500khz
>
> tnx - Graham .
>
>  *From:* Gus <begu@algonet.se>
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 25, 2009 11:07 PM
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> *Subject:* LF: Grabber
>
> *Dear LF !*
> **
> *Just as info, i do some test with a new grabber.*
> *It could be find on http://www.sm6bhz.com/grabber.html*
> **
> *73 de Gus*
>
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>


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Gus<br><br>I just get a screen full of random characters in Firefox.<br>In=
 Internet Explorer (which I don&#39;t use) it works OK.<br><br>Dave G3YXM<=
br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/6/25 Gus <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:begu@algonet.se">begu@algonet.se</a>&gt;</span><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204,=
 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">





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<div><b><i><font size=3D"4">Graham, after some test it will be permanent=
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<div><b><i><font size=3D"4">Gus</font></i></b></div>
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eft: 5px; padding-right: 0px; margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 0px;"><div=
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al; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-a=
djust: none; font-stretch: normal;">----- Original Message ----- </div>
  <div style=3D"background: rgb(228, 228, 228) none repeat scroll 0% 0%;=
 font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight=
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nt-stretch: normal; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-or=
igin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;">
<b>From:</b>=20
  <a title=3D"g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk" href=3D"mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co=
.uk" target=3D"_blank">Graham</a> </div>
  <div style=3D"font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: norm=
al; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-a=
djust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"rsgb_lf_group@b=
lacksheep.org" href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" target=3D"_bla=
nk">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a>=20
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; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size=
: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;=
">
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, June 26, 2009 12:45=20
AM</div>
  <div style=3D"font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: norm=
al; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-a=
djust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>Subject:</b> Re: LF: Grabber</div>
  <div><br></div>
  <div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Gus ...=A0 is this permanent on lin=
e=20
  ?</font></div>
  <div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div>
  <div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">I will add to the=A0 grabbers page=
 on=20
  uk500khz</font></div>
  <div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div>
  <div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">tnx - Graham . </font></div>
  <div style=3D"font-family: Tahoma; font-style: normal; font-variant: nor=
mal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-=
adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;">
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 -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;">
  <div><b>From:</b> <a title=3D"begu@algonet.se" href=3D"mailto:begu@algon=
et.se" target=3D"_blank">Gus</a> </div>
  <div><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 25, 2009 11:07 PM</div>
  <div><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" href=3D"mailto=
:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" target=3D"_blank">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.=
org</a>=20
  </div>
  <div><b>Subject:</b> LF: Grabber</div></div></div>
  <div><br></div>
  <div><b><i><font size=3D"4">Dear LF !</font></i></b></div>
  <div><b><i><font size=3D"4"></font></i></b>=A0</div>
  <div><b><i><font size=3D"4">Just as info, i do some test with a new=20
  grabber.</font></i></b></div>
  <div><b><i><font size=3D"4">It could be find on <a href=3D"http://www.sm=
6bhz.com/grabber.html" target=3D"_blank">http://www.sm6bhz.com/grabber.htm=
l</a></font></i></b></div>
  <div><b><i><font size=3D"4"></font></i></b>=A0</div>
  <div><b><i><font size=3D"4">73 de Gus</font></i></b></div>
  <p>
  </p><hr>

  <p></p><br>No virus found in this incoming message.<br>Checked by AVG -=
 <a href=3D"http://www.avg.com" target=3D"_blank">www.avg.com</a> <br>Vers=
ion: 8.5.339 / Virus=20
  Database: 270.12.91/2201 - Release Date: 06/25/09=20
06:22:00<br></div></div></blockquote></div>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>G3YXM IO92BK Birmingha=
m UK<br>

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cheers Gary
 
many thnx for screenshot of my 1st 600m QSo with Chris G3XIZ
 
With best regards
 
Jim
 
G7NKS
io92ub
biggleswade 
 
 
 
  _____  

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT
Sent: 04 June 2009 22:02
To: LF -RSGB LF Group
Subject: LF: G7NKS



Jim, LF,

 

G7NKS now audible & readable RST 529.

 

See your signal on my grabber at :-

 

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber1.html

 

73,

 

Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.

 



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<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D392394821-04062009><FONT face=3DAr=
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face=3DTahoma  size=3D2><B>From:</B> owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Gary -=20
G4WGT<BR><B>Sent:</B> 04 June 2009 22:02<BR><B>To:</B> LF -RSGB LF=20
Group<BR><B>Subject:</B> LF: G7NKS<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><B><FONT face=3DArial size=3D3><SPAN  style=3D"FONT-WEI=
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Jim, LF,

 

G7NKS now audible & readable RST 529.

 

See your signal on my grabber at :-

 

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber1.html

 

73,

 

Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.

 


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Hi Lubos, Joerg, LF,
capture last night..
DI2AM ~ 22.10z http://rn3agc.msk.ru/am.jpg
OK0EMW ~ 22.10z http://rn3agc.msk.ru/emw.jpg
SK6RUD ~ 22.55z http://rn3agc.msk.ru/rud.jpg

73


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Graham, after some test it will be permanent !!
=20
Gus
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Graham=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 12:45 AM
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  Gus ...  is this permanent on line ?

  I will add to the  grabbers page on uk500khz

  tnx - Graham .=20


  From: Gus=20
  Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 11:07 PM
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  Subject: LF: Grabber


  Dear LF !

  Just as info, i do some test with a new grabber.
  It could be find on http://www.sm6bhz.com/grabber.html

  73 de Gus


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  No virus found in this incoming message.
  Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20
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<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4>Graham, after some test it will be per=
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<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4>Gus</FONT></EM></STRONG></DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Gus ...&nbsp; is this permanent on=
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  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>I will add to the&nbsp; grabbers pa=
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  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>tnx - Graham . </FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4>Dear LF !</FONT></EM></STRONG></DIV>
  <DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4></FONT></EM></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4>Just as info, i do some test with a=
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Dear Lubos!

At which time are you usually transmitting? (QRG?)

I'm just a beginner in LF and it would be interesting if I can copy you
here in JN88HL.

Greetings

OE3GHB
Gerhard





Am Donnerstag, den 25.06.2009, 20:27 +0200 schrieb Lubos OK2BVG:
> Hello Warren, LF!
> That is FB news, thank you for it! I will apply for a new permission
> last month. I hope, that all will be OK. OK0EMW is on the air every
> night. But it depens on the weather, of course. 
> 
> 73!
> 
> Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS
> 
> ************************************************
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> > Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 13:53:29 -0400
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> > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; lowfer@mailman.qth.net
> > Subject: LF: WD2XGJ
> > 
> > The FCC has just renewed WD2XGJ for another 5 years!
> > 
> > 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ
> > 
> 
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NEW, on my website, is a self-contained utility that, in one go, will
generate an 'include' file for PIC assemblers for generating WSPR signals
from a DDS.
Run GENWSPR from the command line and specify call, loc and power, for
example   'genwspr, g4jnt, io90, 43'   and it will go away and generate a
file WSPTONES.INC for importing into a PIC assembly file.

Unlike the utilities already there for WSPR to PIC data conversion -
 'WSPR.EXE' by Joe himself, and my 'WSP2INC' - this does everything in one
go, is not fussy about upper lower case in data entry and reports errors
sensibly.  It also cures a small bug in WSP2INC that generates the last two
symbols incorrectly and which went unnoticed as the error correction in the
WSPR protocol is so strong it laughs at two symbols being in error.

The prog is first attempt at C programming, and going from fervently
disliking the language a few days ago (so totally unlike Basic !),  I've now
come round to actually quite liking it!
So please report any bugs / errors.

www.g4jnt.com/GENWSPR.EXE  or   http://www.g4jnt.com/beacons.htm




Andy  G4JNT

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OOOOPS!

 

The Frequency should read 503.7 kHz.

 

And of course the grabber is at :-

 

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html

 

Gary - G4WGT.

 

  _____  

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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT
Sent: 09 June 2009 20:45
To: LF -RSGB LF Group
Subject: LF: 500kHz - G4JNT Beacon grabber.

 

Hi All,

 

Just a line or two for the followers of the G4JNT 505.7kHz beacon to explain
the erratic signal & noise levels recently on the beacon grabber chart.

 

Over the past few days I have been working on my antenna system. This was to
carry out repairs & improvements to the top load on my LF/MF vertical since
the damage due to the gales in the early part of the year.

 

The raising & lowering etc of the mast & antenna has had an adverse effect
on the Mini-Whip active antenna used for the reception of the beacon which
is also installed on the mast.

 

The work is now completed & I feel that anyone who is following the beacon
data chart will now see an un-interrupted chart apart from the times when I
use the LF/MF antenna for my own transmitting arrangements. This is usually
announced on the grabber page.

 

73,

 

Gary - G4WGT - IO83QO.

 


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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=
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o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

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=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue;font-weight:bold'><o:p>&nb=
sp;</o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue;font-weight:bold'>The Freq=
uency
should read 503.7 kHz.<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue;font-weight:bold'><o:p>&nb=
sp;</o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue;font-weight:bold'>And of
course the grabber is at :-<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

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=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue;font-weight:bold'><o:p>&nb=
sp;</o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'=
font-size: 12.0pt'><a href=3D"http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.h=
tml">http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html</a></span></font><b><=
font color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-family:Arial;color:blue;f=
ont-weight: bold'><o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

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sp;</o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue;font-weight:bold'>Gary &#8=
211;
G4WGT.<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span lang=3DEN-US styl=
e=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></fon=
t></b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-size:10.=
0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or=
g] <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Gary - G4WGT<=
br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 09 June 2009 20:45<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st=3D"o=
n">LF
 -RSGB LF Group</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> LF: 500kHz - G4JNT B=
eacon
grabber.</span></font><span lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Hi All,<o:p></o:p></span></font=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font>=
</b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Just a line or two for the foll=
owers of the
G4JNT 505.7kHz beacon to explain the erratic signal &amp; noise levels recen=
tly
on the beacon grabber chart.<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font>=
</b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Over the past few days I have b=
een working
on my antenna system. This was to carry out repairs &amp; improvements to th=
e
top load on my LF/MF vertical since the damage due to the gales in the early
part of the year.<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font>=
</b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>The raising &amp; lowering etc=20=
of the mast
&amp; antenna has had an adverse effect on the Mini-Whip active antenna used
for the reception of the beacon which is also installed on the mast.<o:p></o=
:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font>=
</b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>The work is now completed &amp;=
 I feel that
anyone who is following the beacon data chart will now see an un-interrupted
chart apart from the times when I use the LF/MF antenna for my own transmitt=
ing
arrangements. This is usually announced on the grabber page.<o:p></o:p></spa=
n></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font>=
</b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><strong><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'f=
ont-size: 12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>73,</span></font></b></strong><o:p></o:p=
></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'=
font-size: 12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><strong><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'f=
ont-size: 12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Gary - G4WGT - IO83QO.</span></font></b>=
</strong><o:p></o:p></p>

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Jim Please DO NOT hi-jack a subject line by using the reply button to send a
new message. The result is a thread of messages that have nothing to do with
Warren WD2XGJ and I almost didnt read them.

Please start a new thread with the "Create Message" button. You will need to
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do here is right click on the "TO" line on an incoming refelctor message and
accept "Add to address book".

The subject line is extremely useful for searching old mail and "hijacked
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Thanks
Alan G3NYK
----- Original Message -----
From: "James Cowburn" <james.cowburn@virgin.net>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
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> Dear All,
>
> G7NKS active on 503KHz at 21.20 BST/20.20 UTC  sending CW @ 5wpm   "CQ
Test
> de G7NKS"
>
> Thanks for any reports
>
>
> Jim
>
>



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 sorry Warren but I used the original post as my reply!  Spot the newbie! =20

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Warren Ziegler
Sent: 04 June 2009 23:08
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: XGJ

Not sure what this thread is about but XGJ is not on now
--
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
                WE2XEB/2
                WE2XGR/1




On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 6:02 PM, Rik Strobbe <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
wrote:
> Jim,
>
> I heard Chris working you, but nothing at all from you (not even traces on
> the Argo screen).
> Chris was 559 here, so your ERP must have been at least 15dB below that of
> G3XIZ.
>
> 73, Rik =A0ON7YD - OR7T
>
>
> Quoting James Cowburn <james.cowburn@virgin.net>:
>
>> Hi Jim
>>
>> Many thnx. Was in Qso with Chris G3Xix. Not long range as he is also in
>> Biggleswade. 1st 600m Qso so dead chuffed!
>>
>> Just need to study up on antennas and matching so as to get more in the
>> ether and less cooking the finals
>>
>> Jim G7NKS
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of James Moritz
>> Sent: 04 June 2009 21:58
>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>> Subject: Re: LF: XGJ
>>
>> Dear Jim,
>>
>> Just audible here, about RST 229 at about 2050utc on 502.65kHz.
>>
>> Cheers, Jim Moritz
>> 73 de M0BMU
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "James Cowburn" <james.cowburn@virgin.net>
>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 9:09 PM
>> Subject: RE: LF: XGJ
>>
>>
>>> Dear All,
>>>
>>> G7NKS active on 503KHz at 21.20 BST/20.20 UTC =A0sending CW @ 5wpm =A0 "=
CQ
>>> Test
>>> de G7NKS"
>>
>>
>>
>> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus
>> signature
>> database 3583 (20081104) __________
>>
>> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.
>>
>> http://www.eset.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>


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More QRN and QSB today...
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Hi All,

 

This is a bit worrying, I am getting spam e-mails using my e-mail address
(this one - g4wgt) as the source/return address. I have already had a post
from some one in Germany querying the validity of the return mail address so
many others must be getting them also.

 

Is there some way to resolve this issue, stop it happening or notify some
authority or what-ever?

 

73,

 

Gary - G4WGT - IO83QO.

 


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Richard Newstead wrote:
>
> 2030z the cw is now audible and readable by ear here. Weak at present.
>
>

When you key I can see sidebands +/- 8Hz on your signal.

00



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Hi Mal,
If your Microsoft Windows is the same as mine (XP or Vista) then when the 
mouse pointer is hovered over the small picture it will turn into a little 
magnifying glass and when you click it, it goes back to full size, with 
scroll-bars to move around the image.
But I suggest you save the files to your hard disk and bring them into a 
drawing program or word processor and look at them / print them in that if 
you still have a problem. Windows XP has a very good Wizard for printing 
pictures, and Image Preview can save the GIF files into a wide range of 
other file types.

You will appreciate that the files are about 3Mbytes each and so if it was 
all one file it would be about 100Megabytes - it took best part of half an 
hour to up-load on broadband as it was.

In my e-mail I explained that I tried to reduce to size, but it all takes 
time and I wanted to get it up on the web as quickly as possible to benefit 
Roelof.

73
Hugh M0WYE



----- Original Message ----- 
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Subject: Re: LF: Siemens D2155


Hi  Hugh
I have a D2155 but cannot read your manual properly. It jumps from large to 
small print after a few secs. Can u send the manual as one doc instead of 
lots of separate pages.
de mal/g3kev

  ----- Original Message ----- 
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  Subject: Re: LF: Siemens D2155


  Hi Roelof and Nicolas,
  I have a manual, and your E-mail has spurred me on to finish scanning it 
and put it on my web site.
  you will find it here:
  http://www.qsl.net/m0wye/D2155/k2155man.htm
  It is a curious format, 150mm x 220mm folded over in a plastic wallet.
  I do not have any circuit diagrams.
  The manual contains 17 pieces of paper, there is an "A" side and a "B" 
side. If there appear to be pages missing in my list, it is because they 
were blank and I didn't scan them.

  Some of the text was quite small to I had to keep the resolution high, 
otherwise I would have made the files smaller. For a similar reason I have 
used GIF format, which is better for text and diagrams, than jpg which is 
better for photos.
  I did try using Textbridge to do character recognition, but it was going 
to take an awflly long time to proof read it and it destroyed the formating.
  73
  Hugh M0WYE

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: F4DTL@aol.com
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    Hello Roelof, I have a D2155 selective level meter with the W3155 
tracking oscillator, I have no documentation but the battery is of 12V 7A

    Best regards F4DTL Nicolas


    Dans un e-mail dat du 25/06/2009 17:49:05 Paris, Madrid (heure d't), 
roelof@ndb.demon.nl a crit :
      Hello all,

      I have received a question from someone who owns a Siemens D2155 
selective
      level meter.
      I have owned one in the past, but it has move on to a good home and I 
am
      not able to check things anymore.

      Does anyone now a source for the manual?

      Does anyone know the type of the internal battery and the voltage and
      current rating?

      Any help will be much appreciated.

      Best regards,
      Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt





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Thank you Henny
73 J-P f1afj

henny van elst a =E9crit :
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> nice capture AFJ
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hello Jim and lf group.
Thank you Jim for your message I am new on 137 kHz and I look for some 
control paufiner my settings in any case I hope to have possitive news from 
you in the future.
Yesterday I spent well on the grabber Markus df6nm
I'm past that tag a few times in the afternoon yesterday ..
the pleasure of a qso on 137khz
Regards Claude f8boj.
===============
----- Original Message ----- 
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Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 11:33 PM
Subject: LF: Re: Hello all.....!


> Dear Claude, LF Group,
>
> I tried looking for your signal, but the level of QRN is currently 
> exceptionally high, and the spectrogram display is a complete "white-out". 
> DF6NM's grabber is also showing very high noise levels, and the EUCLID 
> lightning map shows extensive thunderstorm activity across Europe, so 
> conditions are not the best at the moment! Hope to catch your signal when 
> conditions improve,
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Claude Berthebaud" <f8boj@club-internet.fr>
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> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 1:52 PM
> Subject: LF: Hello all.....!
>
>
> hello
> Today I am testing 137740hz in qrss3
> for possible check your repport are welcome thank you for your kindness
> f8boj claude
>
>
> 




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Jean-Pierre,

Thanks very much for the report!

John, W1TAG

Jean-Pierre Mr (F1AFJ) wrote:
> Hi John , LF ,
> I copy your beacon last night ( see capture )
> 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj


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Chris.....

Oh dear ....hi .... Well I would think that the fan coils my  be  acting as=20=
antennas and  subjecting the electronics control board to 'slight' over volt=
age ... can you  pick up a ex equipment  'ac' fan , I have a System Papst TY=
P -8550-N  230V/50hz , which moves quite a bit of  air , about 3 inch mount=20=
, that would solve the  problem ?

G ..=20


From: Chris Osborn=20
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 7:34 AM
To: LF Group=20
Subject: LF: 500 kHz - Fans


LF,
I've nearly completed my new PA for 500 kHz and have now managed to
stop destroying FET's.

Unfortunately I have an unusual problem in that the heatsink cooling fans
are going U/S.

I have used 24 volts brushless PC-type fans and after a while they
either die completely or start to go backwards slowly. . .

The fans may be slightly over-run but only by a volt or so and on key-up=20
(unregulated supply) and are situated about 50 mm (2 inches) from the heatsi=
nk.
I have rf decoupled them from the supply but maybe not well enough !

Any suggestions in curing this problem would be most welcome.

73 Chris G3XIZ







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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Chris.....</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Oh dear ....hi .... Well I would think that=
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, June 20, 2009 7:34 AM</DIV>
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<DIV>LF,</DIV>
<DIV>I've nearly completed my new PA for 500 kHz and have now managed to</DI=
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<DIV>stop destroying FET's.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Unfortunately I have an unusual problem in that the heatsink cooling=20
fans</DIV>
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<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>I have used 24 volts brushless PC-type fans and after a while they</DIV=
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<DIV>The fans may be slightly over-run but only by a volt or so and on key-u=
p=20
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<DIV>I have rf decoupled them from the supply but&nbsp;maybe not well enough=
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!</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Any suggestions&nbsp;in curing this problem would be most welcome.</DIV=
>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>73 Chris G3XIZ</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></DIV><BR>
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Hello Henny , LF ,
Within sight of the signal on the grabber ,
I think that it is a test of Nicolas (F4DTL)
or Claude (F8BOJ)
73 Jean-Pierre f1AFJ

henny van elst a crit :
> Hi,LF
> capture who?
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Hi LF & SAQ,

 

Transmission at 1200utc was 100% copy although not too strong at RST 519.

 

Using Mini-Whip at 9mtrs high & JRC NRD-345 receiver, external audio filter
set at 100Hz to help reduce static crashes.

 

73,

 

Gary - G4WGT - IO83QO - NW England.

 


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Hi Warren,Lf
capture XGJ
Henny pa3cpm
73s
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Warren,Lf</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>capture XGJ</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Henny pa3cpm</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>73s</FONT></DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het volgende 
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Hello Richard,

I copied you 429 on 502.0 and a bit later on 502.5
But as Perdo, ON7WP, (here 599+40dB) was on I didn't call.
Let's try a QSO one of the next days (when QRN is low it should work).
GW3UEP was 579 here and SM6BHZ was 599+10dB.

73, Rik  ON7YD

Quoting Richard Newstead <g3cwi@btconnect.com>:

> Gary - G4WGT wrote:
>> Pedro. LF,
>>
>> ON7WP QRS signal last night at 2135utc.
>>
>>
>>
> At 2130 ON7WP was 549. OR7T was 419. GW3UEP also 419. Gus (SM? I forget
> his call) was 569. I called many times but my TX will only QSY to 502.5
> so could not net - sorry.
>
> 73
>
> Richard
> G3CWI
>
>
>




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Dear Gerhard, LF Group,

The beacon is now running again at 2000utc, as before in DFCW mode centered 
on 137.680kHz. I will leave it running for a few hours at least. It is still 
quite light here, so I expect signal levels will increase over time. As 
expected, QRN has increased, too...

Any reports very welcome,

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU



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Many thanks for putting me right. Probably thinking of WCC.

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Warren Ziegler wrote:
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>   Ocean Gate is in New Jersey, not Cape Cod (which is in Massachusetts).
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> http://wikimapia.org/4673741/AT-T-High-Seas-Service-Radio-Station-Manahawkin-WOO
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>   


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Jim,

NIL here (JO20IX) at 20:30 UTC
But is not yet completely dark outside.
I will try again later.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

Quoting James Cowburn <james.cowburn@virgin.net>:

> Dear All,
>
> G7NKS active on 503KHz at 21.20 BST/20.20 UTC  sending CW @ 5wpm   "CQ Test
> de G7NKS"
>
> Thanks for any reports
>
>
> Jim
>
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>




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Henny,
  Thank you for the capture!

-- 
73 Warren K2ORS
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2009/6/9 henny van elst <cpm@planet.nl>:
> Hi Warren,Lf
> capture XGJ
> Henny pa3cpm
> best 73s
> Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden
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Dear Claude, LF Group,

I tried looking for your signal, but the level of QRN is currently 
exceptionally high, and the spectrogram display is a complete "white-out". 
DF6NM's grabber is also showing very high noise levels, and the EUCLID 
lightning map shows extensive thunderstorm activity across Europe, so 
conditions are not the best at the moment! Hope to catch your signal when 
conditions improve,

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU

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hello
Today I am testing 137740hz in qrss3
for possible check your repport are welcome thank you for your kindness
f8boj claude



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Hello Gus,

signal very weak this evening in JN59LN. (CW about 349)

vy 73 de Gerhard /  DK6NI

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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von Gus
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Betreff: LF: Re: MF: beacon reports

Hello Marcin, Gerhard and LF,

thank's report and info!

73 de Gus SM6BHZ


----- Original Message -----=20
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Hello!
Very good copy today MF beacons (23:00 UTC):
500kHz SK6RUD 569
505,5kHz  SM6BHZ 579/57
505,180kHz DI2AM 549
505,060kHz OK0EMW 539
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Vy 73!
Marcin SQ2BXI
QTH: big city Gda=F1sk, JO94GJ
RX: IC-746
Antenna: HF long windom 83m, max hight 20m








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Hi LF Group
=A0
I think that must have been, or still is a big TX site because I can remem=
ber listening to,=A0I think, VOA (AM) from there on my SW one valver back=
 in the 1950s.
=A0
73 petefmt

--- On Sun, 28/6/09, Hugh M0WYE <m0wye@radiouk.com> wrote:


From: Hugh M0WYE <m0wye@radiouk.com>
Subject: LF: Re: WHITE PLAINS
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Sunday, 28 June, 2009, 12:36 AM





I've got a record by them, it was in the charts about 1973.
Hugh M0WYE

----- Original Message -----=20
From: mal hamilton=20
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Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 8:05 PM
Subject: LF: WHITE PLAINS


I remember a radio station on HF SSB years ago WHITE PLAINS. Where=A0is th=
at located, somewhere in the USA.
De mal/g3kev
=A0=A0


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<table cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" border=3D"0" ><tr><td valign=3D=
"top" style=3D"font: inherit;"><DIV>Hi LF Group</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>I think that must have been, or still is a big TX site because I can=
 remember listening to,&nbsp;I think, VOA (AM) from there on my SW one val=
ver back in the 1950s.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>73 petefmt<BR><BR>--- On <B>Sun, 28/6/09, Hugh M0WYE <I>&lt;m0wye@rad=
iouk.com&gt;</I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
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<DIV>From: Hugh M0WYE &lt;m0wye@radiouk.com&gt;<BR>Subject: LF: Re: WHITE=
 PLAINS<BR>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR>Date: Sunday, 28 June, 2009=
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>I've got a record by them, it was in the=
 charts about 1973.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Hugh M0WYE</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4"><B>From:</B> <A title=
=3Dg3kevmal@talktalk.net href=3D"http://uk.mc281.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose=
?to=3Dg3kevmal@talktalk.net" rel=3Dnofollow target=3D_blank ymailto=3D"mai=
lto:g3kevmal@talktalk.net">mal hamilton</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacks=
heep.org href=3D"http://uk.mc281.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3Drsgb_lf_gr=
oup@blacksheep.org" rel=3Dnofollow target=3D_blank ymailto=3D"mailto:rsgb_=
lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, June 27, 2009 8:05=
 PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: WHITE PLAINS</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>I remember a radio station on HF SSB year=
s ago WHITE PLAINS. Where&nbsp;is that located, somewhere in the USA.</FON=
T></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>De mal/g3kev</FONT></DIV>
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Hello Warren,Lf
strong signal and nice capture XGJ,
Henny pa3cpm
best 73s
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hello Warren,Lf</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>strong signal and nice capture XGJ,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Henny pa3cpm</FONT></DIV>
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Hello Hugh,

Many thanks indeed.
It is much appreciated.

73,
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Hi Rik

That would not surprise me right now as the ant is a bit of a rush job.  I
am going to work on it tomorrow to sort out the matching system and earth to
hopefully radiate a little more signal. Chris and I are no more than 2 kn
apart so I clearly have some loss issues!

Thnx for rprt tho



Cheers

Jim G7NKS


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Rik Strobbe
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Subject: RE: LF: XGJ

Jim,

I heard Chris working you, but nothing at all from you (not even traces on
the Argo screen).
Chris was 559 here, so your ERP must have been at least 15dB below that of
G3XIZ.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T


Quoting James Cowburn <james.cowburn@virgin.net>:

> Hi Jim
>
> Many thnx. Was in Qso with Chris G3Xix. Not long range as he is also 
> in Biggleswade. 1st 600m Qso so dead chuffed!
>
> Just need to study up on antennas and matching so as to get more in 
> the ether and less cooking the finals
>
> Jim G7NKS
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of James Moritz
> Sent: 04 June 2009 21:58
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> Dear Jim,
>
> Just audible here, about RST 229 at about 2050utc on 502.65kHz.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
> ----- Original Message -----
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>> Dear All,
>>
>> G7NKS active on 503KHz at 21.20 BST/20.20 UTC  sending CW @ 5wpm   "CQ
>> Test
>> de G7NKS"
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James,

Nothing  from the  speaker  at io83lk, I can see a trace at Birmingham > htt=
p://www.wireless.org.uk/grab/  , which is 75 miles closer to  you  than my q=
th=20

I can see a trace using  spec-lab , but that is 100 Hz lower ...and very low=
 , looks like a cw signal , but only  just over the noise ...are you  'spot=20=
on'  502.500 ?=20

>From past qso's with  Chris, I think you  are just outside the ground wave r=
ange , with  signals showing at Birmingham but  not 75 miles on, its a pity=20=
John has=20
closed his Shetland monitor, you may of  shown there=20

73 Graham
G0NBD

From: James Cowburn=20
Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2009 8:56 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Subject: LF: G7NKS on tonite 502.5


Dear All,

G7NKS back on 502.5 tonight "CQ TEST de G7NKS" at 7wpm =20

thanks for any reports

Jim



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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>James,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Nothing&nbsp;&nbsp;from the&nbsp; speaker &=
nbsp;at=20
io83lk, I can see a trace at Birmingham &gt; <A   title=3D"http://www.wirele=
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ss.org.uk/grab/">http://www.wireless.org.uk/grab/</A>&nbsp;=20
, which is 75 miles closer to&nbsp; you&nbsp; than my qth </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>I can see a trace using&nbsp; spec-lab , bu=
t that=20
is 100 Hz lower ...and very low , looks like a cw signal , but only&nbsp; ju=
st=20
over the noise ...are you&nbsp; 'spot on' &nbsp;502.500 ? </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>From past qso's with&nbsp; Chris, I think y=
ou&nbsp;=20
are just outside the ground wave range , with&nbsp; signals showing at=20
Birmingham but&nbsp; not 75 miles on, its a pity John has </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>closed his Shetland monitor, you may of&nbs=
p; shown=20
there </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>7</FONT><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>3=20
Graham</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>G0NBD</FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma">
<DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #f5f5f5">
<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A   title=3D"mailto:james.cow=
burn@virgin.net&#10;CTRL + Click to follow link"   href=3D"mailto:james.cowb=
urn@virgin.net">James Cowburn</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, June 06, 2009 8:56 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A   title=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org&#10;CTRL +=
 Click to follow link"   href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_l=
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> LF: G7NKS on tonite 502.5</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN class=3D906485219-06062009>Dear=20
All,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN   class=3D906485219-06062009></SPAN><=
/FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN class=3D906485219-06062009>G7NKS back=
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tonight "CQ TEST de G7NKS" at 7wpm&nbsp; </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN   class=3D906485219-06062009></SPAN><=
/FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN class=3D906485219-06062009>thanks for=
 any=20
reports</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN   class=3D906485219-06062009></SPAN><=
/FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN   class=3D906485219-06062009>Jim</SPA=
N></FONT></DIV>
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/FONT>&nbsp;</DIV><BR><BR>__________=20
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Gus ...  is this permanent on line ?

I will add to the  grabbers page on uk500khz

tnx - Graham .=20


From: Gus=20
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 11:07 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Subject: LF: Grabber


Dear LF !

Just as info, i do some test with a new grabber.
It could be find on http://www.sm6bhz.com/grabber.html

73 de Gus


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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Gus ...&nbsp; is this permanent on li=
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=3Dbegu@algonet.=
se   href=3D"mailto:begu@algonet.se">Gus</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, June 25, 2009 11:07 PM</DIV>
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to:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> LF: Grabber</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4>Dear LF !</FONT></EM></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4></FONT></EM></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4>Just as info, i do some test with a ne=
w=20
grabber.</FONT></EM></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4>It could be find on <A   href=3D"http:=
//www.sm6bhz.com/grabber.html">http://www.sm6bhz.com/grabber.html</A><=
/FONT></EM></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4></FONT></EM></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4>73 de Gus</FONT></EM></STRONG></DIV>
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I've got a record by them, it was in the charts about 1973.
Hugh M0WYE
  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  I remember a radio station on HF SSB years ago WHITE PLAINS. Where=
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Hello Jean-Pierre, LF!
Yes, I was surprised, the propagation was really good last night. I saw your=
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GL and 73!

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

*********************************

> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 13:25:17 +0200
> From: jpm.f1afj@online.fr
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: Re: LF: XGJ
>=20
> Hello Warren , Lubos , Henny
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> Very good conditions at this beginning of summer! we are in the longest=20
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> the night is very short between Warren and Lubos . Cheer , beautiful=20
> capture of
> Warren , Lubos ! ( JN88ks =3D> FN42hi =3D 6519 km )
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> 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj
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>  > capture XGJ
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>  > 73s
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> Lubos OK2BVG a =E9crit :
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r>&gt; Hello Warren , Lubos , Henny<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Very good conditions at=
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POSTED TO  UK500KHZ=20




Gents,=20

on friday starting 19:00 UTC a station will be set up by the HOB radio=20
amateur club of Heist-op-den-Berg located in JO21IC.=20


The station will consist of a 400W transistor exciter, variometer=20
tuner and 160 m 1/4 lambda vertical.=20


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<P>on friday starting 19:00 UTC a station will be set up by the HOB radio=20
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Dear Jeff,

havn't actually tried it myself on 137 kHz. But from past experience=
 I'd say that while IGBTs may have less DC loss, they are much slower=
 (especially during turnoff). They can be used as effient switches at=
 some tens of kHz, whereas MOSFETs will easily go up to several MHz.

Kind regards,
Markus, DF6NM

  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Good night to all,

  Anybody would have any experience on the use of IGBT in 136 KHz ampl=
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  Thanks in advance!
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>havn't actually tried it myself on 13=
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Hi  Hugh
I have a D2155 but cannot read your manual properly. It jumps from lar=
ge to small print after a few secs. Can u send the manual as one doc=
 instead of lots of separate pages.
de mal/g3kev

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Hugh M0WYE=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 9:50 PM
  Subject: Re: LF: Siemens D2155


  Hi Roelof and Nicolas,
  I have a manual, and your E-mail has spurred me on to finish scannin=
g it and put it on my web site.
  you will find it here:
  http://www.qsl.net/m0wye/D2155/k2155man.htm
  It is a curious format, 150mm x 220mm folded over in a plastic walle=
t.
  I do not have any circuit diagrams.
  The manual contains 17 pieces of paper, there is an "A" side and a=
 "B" side. If there appear to be pages missing in my list, it is becau=
se they were blank and I didn't scan them.

  Some of the text was quite small to I had to keep the resolution hig=
h, otherwise I would have made the files smaller. For a similar reason=
 I have used GIF format, which is better for text and diagrams, than=
 jpg which is better for photos.
  I did try using Textbridge to do character recognition, but it was=
 going to take an awflly long time to proof read it and it destroyed=
 the formating.
  73
  Hugh M0WYE

    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: F4DTL@aol.com=20
    To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
    Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 5:00 PM
    Subject: Re: LF: Siemens D2155


    Hello Roelof, I have a D2155 selective level meter with the W3155=
 tracking oscillator, I have no documentation but the battery is of 12=
V 7A

    Best regards F4DTL Nicolas


    Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 25/06/2009 17:49:05 Paris, Madrid (heure=
 d'=E9t=E9), roelof@ndb.demon.nl a =E9crit :
      Hello all,

      I have received a question from someone who owns a Siemens D2155=
 selective =20
      level meter.
      I have owned one in the past, but it has move on to a good home=
 and I am =20
      not able to check things anymore.

      Does anyone now a source for the manual?

      Does anyone know the type of the internal battery and the voltag=
e and =20
      current rating?

      Any help will be much appreciated.

      Best regards,
      Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt





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<DIV>Hi&nbsp; Hugh</DIV>
<DIV>I have a D2155 but cannot read your manual properly. It jumps fro=
m large to=20
small print after a few secs. Can u send the manual as one doc instead=
 of lots=20
of separate pages.</DIV>
<DIV>de mal/g3kev</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE   style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-L=
EFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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 black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dm0wye@radiouk.com href=3D"mailto:m0wye@radiouk.com">Hugh=
 M0WYE</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@=
blacksheep.org     href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_l=
f_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, June 25, 2009=
 9:50=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: Siemens D215=
5</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>Hi Roelof and Nicolas,</DIV>
  <DIV>I have a manual, and your E-mail has spurred me on to finish sc=
anning it=20
  and put it on my web site.</DIV>
  <DIV>you will find it here:</DIV>
  <DIV><A     href=3D"http://www.qsl.net/m0wye/D2155/k2155man.htm">htt=
p://www.qsl.net/m0wye/D2155/k2155man.htm</A></DIV>
  <DIV>It is a curious format, 150mm x 220mm folded over in a plastic=
=20
  wallet.</DIV>
  <DIV>I do not have any circuit diagrams.</DIV>
  <DIV>The manual contains 17 pieces of paper, there is an "A" side an=
d a "B"=20
  side. If there appear to be pages missing in my list, it is because=
 they were=20
  blank and I didn't scan them.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Some of the text was quite small to I had to keep the resolutio=
n high,=20
  otherwise I would have made the files smaller. For a similar reason=
 I have=20
  used GIF format, which is better for text and diagrams, than jpg whi=
ch is=20
  better for photos.</DIV>
  <DIV>I did try using Textbridge to do character recognition, but it=
 was going=20
  to take an awflly long time to proof read it and it destroyed the=20
  formating.</DIV>
  <DIV>73</DIV>
  <DIV>Hugh M0WYE</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr     style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT:=
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f_group@blacksheep.org       href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.o=
rg">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
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    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, June 25, 20=
09 5:00=20
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    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: Siemens D2=
155</DIV>
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00 size=3D2>
    <DIV>
    <DIV>Hello Roelof, I have a D2155 selective&nbsp;level meter&nbsp;=
with=20
    the&nbsp;W3155 tracking oscillator, I have no documentation but th=
e battery=20
    is of 12V 7A</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><STRONG>Best regards F4DTL Nicolas</STRONG></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 25/06/2009 17:49:05 Paris, Madrid (h=
eure d'=E9t=E9),=20
    <A href=3D"mailto:roelof@ndb.demon.nl">roelof@ndb.demon.nl</A> a=
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 from someone who owns=20
      a Siemens D2155 selective&nbsp; <BR>level meter.<BR>I have owned=
 one in=20
      the past, but it has move on to a good home and I am&nbsp; <BR>n=
ot able to=20
      check things anymore.<BR><BR>Does anyone now a source for the=20
      manual?<BR><BR>Does anyone know the type of the internal battery=
 and the=20
      voltage and&nbsp; <BR>current rating?<BR><BR>Any help will be mu=
ch=20
      appreciated.<BR><BR>Best regards,<BR>Roelof Bakker,=20
    pa0rdt<BR><BR></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>
    <DIV></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT>
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Cheers  Rik

I'll leave the set up running for an hour or so while I clear my inbox 


With best regards


Jim  G7NKS


 
Dr. James Cowburn
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Jim,

NIL here (JO20IX) at 20:30 UTC
But is not yet completely dark outside.
I will try again later.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

Quoting James Cowburn <james.cowburn@virgin.net>:

> Dear All,
>
> G7NKS active on 503KHz at 21.20 BST/20.20 UTC  sending CW @ 5wpm   "CQ
Test
> de G7NKS"
>
> Thanks for any reports
>
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> Jim
>
>
>




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Hello LF!
Signal from SAQ was very strong - 599 with QRN.
Receicer: Chase Electrics Limited LFR1000
Aerial: LF Amrad 5m long (homa made)

It was used ATT -20dB between aerial and RX, becouse signal was too strong=
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73!

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Hello LF!<br>Signal from SAQ was very strong - 599 with QRN.<br>Receicer:=
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m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
> Tim
>  
> Try:-
>
> Loop Antenna News and Information F 
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/loopantennas;_ylc=X3oDMTJlNjltdm4xBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzEyODUxOTEwBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwODM5NjM3OQRzZWMDaGRyBHNsawNocGgEc3RpbWUDMTI0NDQ5ODU4OQ-->
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> loopantennas@yahoogroups.com 
> <http://uk.mc281.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=loopantennas@yahoogroups.com>
>  
> Loads of info there!!
>  
> 73 petefmt
>  
>  
>  
>  
> On *Wed, 10/6/09, tim hague /<m0afj@dsl.pipex.com>/* wrote:
>
> From: tim hague <m0afj@dsl.pipex.com>
> Subject: Re: LF: Re Welbrook Loops
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Date: Wednesday, 10 June, 2009, 9:47 AM
>
>     Dave Pick wrote:
>     > Tim
>     >
>     > Yes, I use one all the time. The problem is usually the
>     receiver, the Wellbrook will easily overload even the best
>     receivers with broadcast signals as most don't have any front-end
>     selectivity below 1.6MHz. Try a 500kHz tuned circuit between the
>     loop and the RX.
>     >
>     > Dave.
>     >
>     > 2009/6/10 tim hague <m0afj@dsl.pipex.com
>     <http://uk.mc281.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=m0afj@dsl.pipex.com>
>     <mailto:m0afj@dsl.pipex.com
>     <http://uk.mc281.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=m0afj@dsl.pipex.com>>>
>     >
>     >     I've got a ALA 1530 Wellbrook Loop, is anyone using one of these
>     >     for 500kHz monitoring?, although I can hear NDB's nothing on
>     500kHz.
>     >
>     >     Tim M0AFJ
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > -- G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK
>     Thanks Dave, I'll have a go, just for interest, how have you got
>     yours mounted?, do you find you need a rotator?
>
>     Best Regards
>
>     Tim M0AFJ
>
>
Thanks Pete

Tim AFJ


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Good evening.
Thank you Gary for this information I will get to address this now=20
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  Claude,

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  =20

  hello all.

  I'm looking for technical documentation Receiver Shwarzbeck
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Warren
You seem to get a lot of bad WX there. Move to California or Texas, there 
are pots of gold there as well. A big attraction !!
g3kev

----- Original Message ----- 
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Hi Jean-Pierre,

  Thanks for the capture.
Yes very bad weather with thunderstorms predicted the next several days.
-- 
73 Warren K2ORS
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> bad capture , sry !
>
> Hi Warren , LF ,
>
> Just a short test at 01:20 ( many stormy last night )
>
> 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj
>
>
>



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Hello Jim.
I could just about hear you in Luton, IO91TV , at 19.50 UTC

73
Ken
M0KHW
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> Dear LF Group,
>
> As art of continuing investigations into antennas, grounds, etc., I am 
> running a beacon at the moment on 503.5kHz - I am testing a small "/P" 
> antenna similar to what G3CWI proposed to use a couple of weeks back. It 
> is a 9m high "umbrella" with 4 x 5m long top loading wires sloping at 
> about 45degrees. Ground system is 4 x 20m radial wires.
>
> The beacon is transmitting an 8wpm CW identifier, followed by five 5 
> second dashes at reducing power levels in steps of 6dB. The maximum ERP is 
> somewhere in the region of 100mW ERP. The sequence repeats every 2 mins 
> roughly.
>
> I'll leave it running until after dark at least - any reports would be 
> very welcome.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
> 



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Hi Jim ,

James Moritz a =E9crit :
> Any reports very welcome.=20
Good copy of your test now !

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Dear Tim, LF Group,

I tried some expeiments with measuring loop antennas at LF and MF a while 
back - changing the height above ground from 0 - 10m made virtually no 
difference. The only thing that made a lot of difference to signal levels is 
if the loop is very close to big metal objects, but even then the difference 
is only minor unless the metal thing is big compared to the loop, and within 
a loop diameter, say.

I would agree with G3YXM about overloading - if you have an oscilloscope, it 
is worth connecting it to the loop output to see if any huge signals are 
present. I have used elliptic low pass filters here to reduce the signal 
level from the local medium wave broadcast stations to a reasonable level.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU

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Subject: Re: LF: Re Welbrook Loops


>I use a 1530 as well, its mounted on a rotator about 2ft above ground level 
>on a Barenco
> socket/spike. Works well 80m down to 500khz but being so close to the 
> ground its a bit deaf
> above 80m as you would expect. My understanding is that for hf it should 
> me mounted high up but
> for lf its better low down near the ground.
>
> A rotator isn't really necessary as the beamwidth is quite broad but where 
> I do find it useful is
> nulling out the local qrm, switch modes etc.
>



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In a recent message, mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net> wrote ...
>Does anyone have a spare BC 348?
>de mal/g3kev

No, but I have the full, detailed technical manual for it if anyone 
needs one.

73

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Dear all

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Dear all<br><br>Has anyone got a picture of some new item of interest to the LF/MF community? Needed for the next Radcom LF column.<br>If you have, please send it to me in best quality via a direct mail to g3yxm at wireless dot org dot uk<br>
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bonjour=20
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ensuite je suis =E0 l'ecoute ....
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amicalement F8boj Claude
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  Hello Claude,your capture this morning.



  F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP

  RX : Icom IC7400
  Ant: Wellbrook LFL 1010

  http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/


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Hello Gerhard,

OE5ODL can put out a respectable signal whenever you want. I can help 
set up a sked, if you reply to my email adress (just google my callsign).

73 Heinz, OE5EEP


Gerhard Hickl schrieb:
> Hello James and the group!
>
> Thanks for the reply. Unfortunately I can't copy your signal in the
> moment, let's hope for the evening/night.
>
> I'm using my shortwave-antenna, a 55m long endfed wire in about 12m
> height as antenna for lf. it's connected to the unsymmetrical input of
> the Selective Level Meter. I think using this antenna is the first
> problem. Another one ist that I don't have a preamp yet. The 2nd antenna
> is a resonant frame antenna with about 1m diameter. Unfortunately I
> haven't managed to bring it outside somehow and so I'm using it in the
> shack which gives me a lot of QRM, especially from the tube-monitor
> (n*75Hz vert. frequenzy).
>
> The Level Meter only has a 22Hz and a 3.1khz filter. I just can use the
> 3.1 filter which gaves me lot of QRM from DCF39. I have tuned to 137.15
> becasue I found that this qrg is quiet (-107dbm) compared to some 100Hz
> up and down where the noise level is up to -92dbm. I think this noise is
> produced by the carrier of DCF39 somehow.
>
> As you may have noticed, I'm a LF beginner and it seems I have to work
> on the sensitivity of my equipment. I'm living 30km north of Vienna and
> I think QRN and QRM is not so bad here.
>
> Any suggestions welcome.
>
> Thanks a lot
> and 73 de OE3GHB
>
> Gerhard Hickl
>
>   



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Hi folks,

I am currently (next half hour..) testing my transmit antenna in rainy 
conditions to see wether my isolators catch fire or not ;-)

CW beacon every 10 seconds TEST de ON7WP JO21IC at 20 wpm, legal limit 
off course...

Pedro ON7WP-AA9HX




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Dear All,
 
G7NKS back on 502.5 tonight "CQ TEST de G7NKS" at 7wpm  
 
thanks for any reports
 
Jim
 

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Tnx info Warren
It is a good bit inland for a shore/ship radio telephone station. Normally 
they were located on the coast. I used to hear it frequenntly in the UK
73 Mal/g3kev

----- Original Message ----- 
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White plains is immediately North of New York City:

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=white+plains,ny&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&split=0&gl=us&ei=VW5GSo-fLdGktwfwuInOBg&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&ct=title&resnum=1

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On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 3:05 PM, mal hamilton<g3kevmal@talktalk.net> wrote:
> I remember a radio station on HF SSB years ago WHITE PLAINS. Where is that
> located, somewhere in the USA.
> De mal/g3kev
>



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Thank you Claude F8BOJ
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Not sure what this thread is about but XGJ is not on now
--=20
73 Warren K2ORS
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On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 6:02 PM, Rik Strobbe <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be> wr=
ote:
> Jim,
>
> I heard Chris working you, but nothing at all from you (not even traces on
> the Argo screen).
> Chris was 559 here, so your ERP must have been at least 15dB below that of
> G3XIZ.
>
> 73, Rik =A0ON7YD - OR7T
>
>
> Quoting James Cowburn <james.cowburn@virgin.net>:
>
>> Hi Jim
>>
>> Many thnx. Was in Qso with Chris G3Xix. Not long range as he is also in
>> Biggleswade. 1st 600m Qso so dead chuffed!
>>
>> Just need to study up on antennas and matching so as to get more in the
>> ether and less cooking the finals
>>
>> Jim G7NKS
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of James Moritz
>> Sent: 04 June 2009 21:58
>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>> Subject: Re: LF: XGJ
>>
>> Dear Jim,
>>
>> Just audible here, about RST 229 at about 2050utc on 502.65kHz.
>>
>> Cheers, Jim Moritz
>> 73 de M0BMU
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "James Cowburn" <james.cowburn@virgin.net>
>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 9:09 PM
>> Subject: RE: LF: XGJ
>>
>>
>>> Dear All,
>>>
>>> G7NKS active on 503KHz at 21.20 BST/20.20 UTC =A0sending CW @ 5wpm =A0 "=
CQ
>>> Test
>>> de G7NKS"
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>>
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>
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>
>

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Dear LF Group,

As art of continuing investigations into antennas, grounds, etc., I am 
running a beacon at the moment on 503.5kHz - I am testing a small "/P" 
antenna similar to what G3CWI proposed to use a couple of weeks back. It is 
a 9m high "umbrella" with 4 x 5m long top loading wires sloping at about 
45degrees. Ground system is 4 x 20m radial wires.

The beacon is transmitting an 8wpm CW identifier, followed by five 5 second 
dashes at reducing power levels in steps of 6dB. The maximum ERP is 
somewhere in the region of 100mW ERP. The sequence repeats every 2 mins 
roughly.

I'll leave it running until after dark at least - any reports would be very 
welcome.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
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My experiences in a surburban set up (Bartlesville  OK second QTH) are the s=
ame as Peters and others - some nice long 8ft earth rods spread out and abou=
t did most of the work, however empirically my QTH in Alaska (glacial morrai=
ne/clay and till) this did not work as well and I ended up with a large numb=
er of sort radials every few degress some 40m long (mostly for 80/160 gotta=20=
say), and a large earth mat of galvanised chicken wire covering an area of s=
ome 200ft x 100ft all interlaced. I know it rots but it worked well for a ye=
ar.

=20

In real terms, just with the sole aim at the time of increasing antennae cur=
rent, it was diminshing returns over the amount of effort/cost, and I seem t=
o recall I managed 21 ohms loss, most of which Im sure was environmental as=20=
I was in a cut out in Kincaid Park forest.

=20

 Looking back and what I know now I would have changes a few things in the a=
ntennae feed and earthing/matching arrangements too.

=20

When I left AK I pulled up (with some mechanical assistance) sections of the=
 galvanised mesh a length at a time and retuned and sure enough the losses i=
ncreased but very slowly...

=20

I did try 4 full size radials for 137kHz - all untuned and it did zip/nothin=
g to improve the situation.

=20

I did try earthing using a 200ft vertical well casing and this gave the exac=
t same antennae current as all the above. I didnt have a bridge at the time=20=
but which I had.

=20

Gotta say its every location is different and works well in some seems poor=20=
in others, but the general rule of as much in the air as high as possible, a=
way from lossy objects, and as much in the ground seems a reasonable assumpt=
ion, though Im now a little more concerned and thoughful about the reactance=
s involved and voltages present on them insulated radials now after reading=20=
Jims notes.

=20

I dont think Ill have to same problem back in AK in a few days as its got to=
 be a loop, again over glacial overlay/till and some larger rocks...Im more=20=
concerned over the fire hazard as its very very dry at the moment and a burn=
 ban in effect.

=20

Thanks for the work - all very thought provoking....

=20

Laurence BY3A KL1X

Teda China OM89UA

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My experiences in a surburban set up (Bartlesville&nbsp; OK second QTH) are=20=
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 about did most of the work, however empirically my QTH in Alaska (glacial m=
orraine/clay and till) this did not work as well and I ended up with a large=
 number of sort radials every few degress some 40m long (mostly for 80/160 g=
otta say), and a large earth mat of galvanised chicken wire covering an area=
 of some 200ft x 100ft all interlaced. I know it rots but it worked well for=
 a year.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
In real terms, just&nbsp;with the sole aim at the time of increasing antenna=
e current, it was diminshing returns over the amount of effort/cost, and I s=
eem to recall I managed 21 ohms loss, most of which Im sure was environmenta=
l as I was in a cut out in Kincaid Park forest.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
&nbsp;Looking back and what I know now I would have changes a few things in=20=
the antennae feed and earthing/matching arrangements too.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
When I left AK I pulled up (with some mechanical assistance)&nbsp;sections o=
f the galvanised mesh a length at a time and retuned and sure enough the los=
ses increased but very slowly...<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
I did try 4&nbsp;full size radials for 137kHz&nbsp;- all untuned and it did=20=
zip/nothing to improve the situation.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
I did try earthing using a 200ft vertical well casing and this gave the exac=
t same antennae current as all the above. I didnt have a bridge at the time=20=
but which I had.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Gotta say its every location is different and works well in some seems poor=20=
in others, but the general rule of as much in the air as high as possible, a=
way from lossy objects, and as much in the ground seems a reasonable assumpt=
ion, though Im now a little more concerned and thoughful about the reactance=
s involved and voltages present on them insulated radials now after reading=20=
Jims notes.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
I dont think Ill have to same problem back in AK in a few days as its got to=
 be a loop, again over glacial overlay/till and some larger rocks...Im more=20=
concerned over the fire hazard as its very very dry at the moment and a burn=
 ban in effect.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Thanks for the work - all very thought provoking....<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Laurence BY3A KL1X<BR>
Teda China OM89UA<BR>
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> 1960.  One of the first receptions I heard was a transmission that kept
> repeating a message something like this:  This is a test transmission fo=
r
> circuit adjustment purposes.

Yes that was the only transmission I recall hearing from them.
It made me wonder why someone would put up a station just for 'circuit
adjustment purposes' and nothing else.
I wondered what kind of circuit would need such constant adjustment!
Looking back I suppose that they transmitted on several frequencies
simultaneously and the purpose of the constant transmissions was so
that the receiving stations could pick the best frequency for the
conditions.

--=20
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
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On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Dexter McIntyre W4DEX<dmcintyre@att.net>=
 wrote:
> My first short wave receiver was a Knight Kit Star Roamer I built around
> 1960. =A0One of the first receptions I heard was a transmission that kep=
t
> repeating a message something like this: =A0This is a test transmission=
 for
> circuit adjustment purposes. =A0This transmission originated form an off=
ice of
> the American Telephone and Telegraph Company and is located near White
> Plains New York. =A0I received this signal from time to time for many ye=
ars on
> several different frequencies. =A0Many years later while reminiscing abo=
ut our
> past radio experiences with a retired AT&T engineer I asked him about th=
e
> test transmission. =A0He recalled hearing the same signals which he beli=
eved
> was for the HF High Seas Radiotelephone Service. =A0I've never found any
> information about a White Plains site but there is some documentation on=
line
> about several other AT&T High Seas HF Radio locations.
>
> Dex
>
> mal hamilton wrote:
>>
>> I remember a radio station on HF SSB years ago WHITE PLAINS. Where is=
 that
>> located, somewhere in the USA.
>> De mal/g3kev
>>
>
>
>

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Many thanks Hugh for this documentation because its very difficult to find=
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it.
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F4DTL  Nicolas JN18FP
_http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/_ (http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/)=20

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=E9), =20
m0wye@radiouk.com a =E9crit :

Hi Roelof and Nicolas,
I have a manual, and your E-mail has spurred me on to finish scanning it=
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and put it on my web site.
you will find it here:
_http://www.qsl.net/m0wye/D2155/k2155man.htm_=20
(http://www.qsl.net/m0wye/D2155/k2155man.htm)=20
It is a curious format, 150mm x 220mm folded over in a plastic  wallet.
I do not have any circuit diagrams.
The manual contains 17 pieces of paper, there is an "A" side and a "B" =20
side. If there appear to be pages missing in my list, it is because they=
 were =20
blank and I didn't scan them.
=20
Some of the text was quite small to I had to keep the resolution high, =20
otherwise I would have made the files smaller. For a similar reason I have=
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used GIF format, which is better for text and diagrams, than jpg which is=
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better for photos.
I did try using Textbridge to do character recognition, but it was going=
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to take an awflly long time to proof read it and it destroyed the  formati=
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73
Hugh M0WYE



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Nicolas JN18FP<BR><A   href=3D"http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/">http://l=
fistes.erst.azerttyu.net/</A></B></FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 25/06/2009 22:52:45 Paris, Madrid (heure d'=
=E9t=E9),=20
m0wye@radiouk.com a =E9crit :</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 0px; MARGIN-LEFT: 0px"><FONT     style=
=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" color=3D#000000 size=3D2 face=3DArial>
  <DIV>Hi Roelof and Nicolas,</DIV>
  <DIV>I have a manual, and your E-mail has spurred me on to finish scanni=
ng it=20
  and put it on my web site.</DIV>
  <DIV>you will find it here:</DIV>
  <DIV><A title=3Dhttp://www.qsl.net/m0wye/D2155/k2155man.htm     href=3D"=
http://www.qsl.net/m0wye/D2155/k2155man.htm">http://www.qsl.net/m0wye/D215=
5/k2155man.htm</A></DIV>
  <DIV>It is a curious format, 150mm x 220mm folded over in a plastic=20
  wallet.</DIV>
  <DIV>I do not have any circuit diagrams.</DIV>
  <DIV>The manual contains 17 pieces of paper, there is an "A" side and a=
 "B"=20
  side. If there appear to be pages missing in my list, it is because they=
 were=20
  blank and I didn't scan them.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Some of the text was quite small to I had to keep the resolution hi=
gh,=20
  otherwise I would have made the files smaller. For a similar reason I ha=
ve=20
  used GIF format, which is better for text and diagrams, than jpg which=
 is=20
  better for photos.</DIV>
  <DIV>I did try using Textbridge to do character recognition, but it was=
 going=20
  to take an awflly long time to proof read it and it destroyed the=20
  formating.</DIV>
  <DIV>73</DIV>
  <DIV>Hugh M0WYE</DIV></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
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Hello all,

I have received a question from someone who owns a Siemens D2155 selective  
level meter.
I have owned one in the past, but it has move on to a good home and I am  
not able to check things anymore.

Does anyone now a source for the manual?

Does anyone know the type of the internal battery and the voltage and  
current rating?

Any help will be much appreciated.

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Graham, Lubos,

    Thank you for the comments, I'm not sure if sunspots are a good
thing at LF - might cause more geomagnetic disturbances which could
hurt propagation.
    The weather has been very bad here, storms, rain, humidity and no suns=
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    Not good for operating.

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73 Warren K2ORS
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2009/6/25 Lubos OK2BVG <bvgbob@hotmail.com>:
> Hello Warren, LF!
> That is FB news, thank you for it! I will apply for a new permission las=
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> 73!
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Dear LF Group,

Over the last few days I have been doing some experiments with ground 
systems with my LF/MF antenna. The purpose was partly to see whether it is 
possible to reduce the overall loss resistance significantly, but also to 
test out some convenient types of ground for antennas for portable 
operation, in particular radial wires. The antenna is currently a top-loaded 
vertical about 10m high, with about 80m in total of horizontal wires in a 
narrow, asymmetrical "Y" shape about 50m long, giving a capacitance at 136k 
of around 500pF, and around 580pF at at 500k due to the increased effect of 
the distributed inductance of the wires. As a reference, I used the normal 
ground system, consisting of 6 x 1m ground rods, distributed within a couple 
of metres of the base of the antenna tuners.

The measuring technique was to initially set the normal series loading coils 
to resonance at 136kHz and 502khz with the normal ground system, and then 
measure the antenna resistance between the "cold" end of the loading coil 
and ground with an RF bridge. The total loss resistance of the antenna 
(including the loading coils and the normal ground system) was 57ohms at 
136k and 24ohms at 502k. Then an alternative ground system was connected 
instead of the normal ground, the bridge re-tuned to measure the new 
resistance, and any change in reactance determined from the change in 
resonant frequency. The reactance measurement is only approximate, but good 
enough for these purposes. The bridge equipment was all battery operated, 
and sat on a wooden table, so had minimal effect on the impedance of the 
ground system. When I set up a similar antenna with similar ground rods in a 
field a while back, the loss resistance of the antenna was only about 8 ohms 
in total, so the component of the loss resistance due to the normal ground 
system is probably less than 8 ohms. The much higher total loss resistance 
is due mostly to the environmental factors affecting the antenna.

I first tried combinations of insulated radial wires laid on the ground, 
including 4 x 20m radials, 4 x 40m radials and 8 x 20m radials. It did not 
seem to matter much how the radials were laid out, whether underneath the 
top load wires or in completely different directions. Some had bends or 
doubled back - there is not really room at my QTH for 40m radials! Some were 
laid on the grass, others along the concrete driveway that runs down one 
side of the plot. None of this made more than a few ohms difference to the 
loss resistance, provided the wires were reasonably well spaced apart.  All 
configurations had significant capacitive reactance compared to the normal 
ground rods:

4 x 20m radials, 136k: R = 80ohm , X = -j466ohms
4x 20m radials, 502k: R = 28ohm, X = -j113ohms

4x 40m radials, 136k: R = 66ohms,  X = -j248ohms
4 x 40m radials, 502k, R = 25ohms, X = -j61ohms

8 x 20m radials, 136k: R = 62ohms, X = -j283ohms
8 x 20m radials, 502k: R = 23ohms, X = -j76ohms

So it would seem that having the total of 160m of wire as 8 shorter radials 
is slightly better than 4 longer ones as far a loss goes. I also tried 
elevating the radials above ground about 0.3m on lengths of cane:

8 x 20m radials, elevated, 136k: R = 80ohms, X = -j622ohms
8 x 20m radials, elevated, 502k: R = 23ohms, X = -j158ohms

The loss resistance at 502kHz is slightly reduced, but the extra capacitive 
reactance is now getting very high, especially at 136k. I tried adding a 
"metallic" ground connection by adding a 200mm long steel tent peg to the 
end of each radial, and driving it into the ground:

8 x 20m radial + ground spike, 136k: R = 80ohms, X = 0
8 x 20m radial + ground spike, 502k: R = 69ohms, X = -j11ohms

So this is effective at reducing the reactance, but does not help loss 
resistance; in fact, it leads to a drastic increase in loss at 502k.

Instead of insulated radials, I tried a 15m x 0.6m strip of wire mesh (a 
roll of chicken wire that was lying around), held down flat on the grass 
with bricks:

15m x 0.6m wire mesh, 136k: R = 82ohms, X = -j102ohms
15m x 0.6m wire mesh, 502k: R = 31ohms, X = -j9ohms

So in spite of  having a large area of metal in reasonable contact with the 
ground, there is still relatively high resistance, and some capacitive 
reactance. Since the insulated radials in general resulted in lower loss 
resistance, I tried insulating the wire mesh from the ground using polythene 
sheet:

15m x 0.6m wire mesh, insulated, 136k: R = 65ohms, X = -j320ohms
15m x 0.6m wire mesh, insulated, 502k: R = 26ohms, X = -j63ohms

Since the wire mesh would be quite a convenient earth system to use for an 
antenna over a paved area, or on rocky ground, I tried laying it on the 
concrete driveway:

15m x 0.6m wire mesh, on concrete, 136k: R = 57 ohms, X = -j320ohms
15m x 0.6m wire mesh, on concrete, 502k: R = 23 ohms, X = -j65ohms

The loss resistance is now as low as the normal ground rod system, although 
the reactance is higher.

Looking at these results, the ground rods win for the fixed station antenna. 
The ground here is a permanently wet clay soil, which is probably quite good 
for ground rods. They give practically the lowest loss resistance (a couple 
of the other ground systems give a marginally lower loss resistance at 502k, 
but in practice the actual resonant frequency was increased due to the 
additional reactance, and the loss resistance of the antenna decreases at 
higher frequency). The reactance is also lower. Most of the alternative 
ground systems effectively behave as capacitive coupling to ground, with 
significant capacitive reactance as well as some additional loss resistance. 
For the fixed station, if the ground system has a high reactance, most of 
the ground current will flow through the lower impedance path via TX 
chassis/mains earth, instead of the ground system. This is possibly why 
adding ground radials to an existing system often has no effect. One way 
round this would be to have an auxilliary tuning inductor connected between 
the ATU ground, and the ground radial sytem. You could tune the inductor for 
maximum RF current in the radials, or minimum current via the TX ground.

For portable antennas, it is often difficult to drive long ground rods into 
the earth. It seems that short ground spikes, like the tent pegs, or 
metallic conductors laid on the surface of the ground, do not make a very 
good ground connection. The insulated radial wire systems generally give the 
lower loss resistances for the antenna system, and are quite easy to set up. 
The effect of the unwanted ground system reactance for a portable station 
with no other earth connection is that the ground terminal of the ATU is not 
at ground potential, and so probably also the cases of all the station 
equipment. For 500kHz stations with fairly low power (say <1A antenna 
current or so), where reactance is quite low, this probably does not matter 
much so long as the equipment (and operator) are reasonably well insulated 
from ground. For a QRO 136kHz station, it is likely to be a different 
story - with 1kW I can get about 4A antenna current - if I was using the 8 x 
20m radials, the 283ohms reactance would mean the equipment ground would 
have more than 1kV of RF relative to ground! The capacitance of the 
insulated radials works out very roughly to 28pF per metre of wire, and one 
wants to make the total capacitance large enough to keep the voltage down to 
a reasonable level. More and longer radials would clearly be desirable, 
which are not really feasible in my garden, but might be quite easy at a /P 
location.

The insulated wire mesh ground required less area than the radial wires, and 
had low loss resistance with similar reactance, so could be quite promising, 
especially where the ground is already insulated; on concrete or tarmac for 
example.

Hopefully some time this summer, I will be able to borrow a field again, and 
do some further experiments with more space available.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU










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Hi Warren , LF ,

Just a short test at 01:35 !  ( but I saw it ! hi hi ......  )

73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

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Jim

The full power sequence is a solid s9 on the meter. I can hear all of 
the 5 second dashes - s8, s7,s5, s3 and s1 on meter. Rather peculiarly 
each of the dashes has long 'rounded' on and off keying edges sounding 
like deep QSB - but is not, it is on the transmission... The keying of 
beacon itself is a little soft but not so severe. The lowest power tone 
is just above my noise level - 30dB down on 100mw = 0.1mW?.

In Bracknell IO91PJ

73 Dave G3YMC

On 9 Jun 2009 at 20:48, James Moritz wrote:

> Dear LF Group,
> 
> As art of continuing investigations into antennas, grounds, etc., I am
> running a beacon at the moment on 503.5kHz - I am testing a small "/P"
> antenna similar to what G3CWI proposed to use a couple of weeks back. It
> is a 9m high "umbrella" with 4 x 5m long top loading wires sloping at
> about 45degrees. Ground system is 4 x 20m radial wires.
> 
> The beacon is transmitting an 8wpm CW identifier, followed by five 5
> second dashes at reducing power levels in steps of 6dB. The maximum ERP
> is somewhere in the region of 100mW ERP. The sequence repeats every 2
> mins roughly.
> 
> I'll leave it running until after dark at least - any reports would be
> very welcome.
> 
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU 
> 
> 


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A very interesting set of experiments Jim.

I also found  that long copper rods driven into the found as deep as you 
can get them worked best for 73 and 136kHz and that radials in a 
suburban environment were not much good at all. 
However, I did some experiments on 73kHz at Amberley museum some years 
ago. This QTH was once a chalk quarry and I found it impossible to get a 
ground stake earth in chalk to work. I finished up using a single 
counterpoise 300m long just lying on the ground. To get it to work I 
used a loading coil just like the one used for the antenna itself, which 
was also about 300m long strung across the a valley created by the 
mining activity. Both coils and the matching transformer were adjusted 
for maximum antenna current.

Interestingly, a Tesla coil group set up a series of serious Tesla coils 
at the museum for a demonstration and they had make a buried earth mat 
arrangement for the large coils. The largest one, which gave spark 
discharge over a metre long was driven by a RF arrangement at 70kHz. I 
checked the signal using the TS850 with a short antenna in my vehicle 
located around 80m distant from the coil - and heard nothing. This 
surprised me - I was expecting a very large signal.

Regards

Peter, G3LDO


> Over the last few days I have been doing some experiments with ground 
> systems with my LF/MF antenna. The purpose was partly to see whether 
> it is possible to reduce the overall loss resistance significantly, 
> but also to test out some convenient types of ground for antennas for 
> portable operation, in particular radial wires. The antenna is 
> currently a top-loaded vertical about 10m high, with about 80m in 
> total of horizontal wires in a narrow, asymmetrical "Y" shape about 
> 50m long, giving a capacitance at 136k of around 500pF, and around 
> 580pF at at 500k due to the increased effect of the distributed 
> inductance of the wires. As a reference, I used the normal ground 
> system, consisting of 6 x 1m ground rods, distributed within a couple 
> of metres of the base of the antenna tuners.
>
> The measuring technique was to initially set the normal series loading 
> coils to resonance at 136kHz and 502khz with the normal ground system, 
> and then measure the antenna resistance between the "cold" end of the 
> loading coil and ground with an RF bridge. The total loss resistance 
> of the antenna (including the loading coils and the normal ground 
> system) was 57ohms at 136k and 24ohms at 502k. Then an alternative 
> ground system was connected instead of the normal ground, the bridge 
> re-tuned to measure the new resistance, and any change in reactance 
> determined from the change in resonant frequency. The reactance 
> measurement is only approximate, but good enough for these purposes. 
> The bridge equipment was all battery operated, and sat on a wooden 
> table, so had minimal effect on the impedance of the ground system. 
> When I set up a similar antenna with similar ground rods in a field a 
> while back, the loss resistance of the antenna was only about 8 ohms 
> in total, so the component of the loss resistance due to the normal 
> ground system is probably less than 8 ohms. The much higher total loss 
> resistance is due mostly to the environmental factors affecting the 
> antenna.
>
> I first tried combinations of insulated radial wires laid on the 
> ground, including 4 x 20m radials, 4 x 40m radials and 8 x 20m 
> radials. It did not seem to matter much how the radials were laid out, 
> whether underneath the top load wires or in completely different 
> directions. Some had bends or doubled back - there is not really room 
> at my QTH for 40m radials! Some were laid on the grass, others along 
> the concrete driveway that runs down one side of the plot. None of 
> this made more than a few ohms difference to the loss resistance, 
> provided the wires were reasonably well spaced apart.  All 
> configurations had significant capacitive reactance compared to the 
> normal ground rods:
>
> 4 x 20m radials, 136k: R = 80ohm , X = -j466ohms
> 4x 20m radials, 502k: R = 28ohm, X = -j113ohms
>
> 4x 40m radials, 136k: R = 66ohms,  X = -j248ohms
> 4 x 40m radials, 502k, R = 25ohms, X = -j61ohms
>
> 8 x 20m radials, 136k: R = 62ohms, X = -j283ohms
> 8 x 20m radials, 502k: R = 23ohms, X = -j76ohms
>
> So it would seem that having the total of 160m of wire as 8 shorter 
> radials is slightly better than 4 longer ones as far a loss goes. I 
> also tried elevating the radials above ground about 0.3m on lengths of 
> cane:
>
> 8 x 20m radials, elevated, 136k: R = 80ohms, X = -j622ohms
> 8 x 20m radials, elevated, 502k: R = 23ohms, X = -j158ohms
>
> The loss resistance at 502kHz is slightly reduced, but the extra 
> capacitive reactance is now getting very high, especially at 136k. I 
> tried adding a "metallic" ground connection by adding a 200mm long 
> steel tent peg to the end of each radial, and driving it into the ground:
>
> 8 x 20m radial + ground spike, 136k: R = 80ohms, X = 0
> 8 x 20m radial + ground spike, 502k: R = 69ohms, X = -j11ohms
>
> So this is effective at reducing the reactance, but does not help loss 
> resistance; in fact, it leads to a drastic increase in loss at 502k.
>
> Instead of insulated radials, I tried a 15m x 0.6m strip of wire mesh 
> (a roll of chicken wire that was lying around), held down flat on the 
> grass with bricks:
>
> 15m x 0.6m wire mesh, 136k: R = 82ohms, X = -j102ohms
> 15m x 0.6m wire mesh, 502k: R = 31ohms, X = -j9ohms
>
> So in spite of  having a large area of metal in reasonable contact 
> with the ground, there is still relatively high resistance, and some 
> capacitive reactance. Since the insulated radials in general resulted 
> in lower loss resistance, I tried insulating the wire mesh from the 
> ground using polythene sheet:
>
> 15m x 0.6m wire mesh, insulated, 136k: R = 65ohms, X = -j320ohms
> 15m x 0.6m wire mesh, insulated, 502k: R = 26ohms, X = -j63ohms
>
> Since the wire mesh would be quite a convenient earth system to use 
> for an antenna over a paved area, or on rocky ground, I tried laying 
> it on the concrete driveway:
>
> 15m x 0.6m wire mesh, on concrete, 136k: R = 57 ohms, X = -j320ohms
> 15m x 0.6m wire mesh, on concrete, 502k: R = 23 ohms, X = -j65ohms
>
> The loss resistance is now as low as the normal ground rod system, 
> although the reactance is higher.
>
> Looking at these results, the ground rods win for the fixed station 
> antenna. The ground here is a permanently wet clay soil, which is 
> probably quite good for ground rods. They give practically the lowest 
> loss resistance (a couple of the other ground systems give a 
> marginally lower loss resistance at 502k, but in practice the actual 
> resonant frequency was increased due to the additional reactance, and 
> the loss resistance of the antenna decreases at higher frequency). The 
> reactance is also lower. Most of the alternative ground systems 
> effectively behave as capacitive coupling to ground, with significant 
> capacitive reactance as well as some additional loss resistance. For 
> the fixed station, if the ground system has a high reactance, most of 
> the ground current will flow through the lower impedance path via TX 
> chassis/mains earth, instead of the ground system. This is possibly 
> why adding ground radials to an existing system often has no effect. 
> One way round this would be to have an auxilliary tuning inductor 
> connected between the ATU ground, and the ground radial sytem. You 
> could tune the inductor for maximum RF current in the radials, or 
> minimum current via the TX ground.
>
> For portable antennas, it is often difficult to drive long ground rods 
> into the earth. It seems that short ground spikes, like the tent pegs, 
> or metallic conductors laid on the surface of the ground, do not make 
> a very good ground connection. The insulated radial wire systems 
> generally give the lower loss resistances for the antenna system, and 
> are quite easy to set up. The effect of the unwanted ground system 
> reactance for a portable station with no other earth connection is 
> that the ground terminal of the ATU is not at ground potential, and so 
> probably also the cases of all the station equipment. For 500kHz 
> stations with fairly low power (say <1A antenna current or so), where 
> reactance is quite low, this probably does not matter much so long as 
> the equipment (and operator) are reasonably well insulated from 
> ground. For a QRO 136kHz station, it is likely to be a different story 
> - with 1kW I can get about 4A antenna current - if I was using the 8 x 
> 20m radials, the 283ohms reactance would mean the equipment ground 
> would have more than 1kV of RF relative to ground! The capacitance of 
> the insulated radials works out very roughly to 28pF per metre of 
> wire, and one wants to make the total capacitance large enough to keep 
> the voltage down to a reasonable level. More and longer radials would 
> clearly be desirable, which are not really feasible in my garden, but 
> might be quite easy at a /P location.
>
> The insulated wire mesh ground required less area than the radial 
> wires, and had low loss resistance with similar reactance, so could be 
> quite promising, especially where the ground is already insulated; on 
> concrete or tarmac for example.
>
> Hopefully some time this summer, I will be able to borrow a field 
> again, and do some further experiments with more space available.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>



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Thanks Dave for this info!!

> G3XIZ is in CW QSO with GW3UEP right now (2103z,)on 502.3 and 501.1 kHz
> (Check the G3YXM grabber on www.wireless.org.uk
> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM

Unfortunately nothing heard here in Berlin.
But one hour ago there wasn't even anything audible from DI2AM, which is 

Now, one and a half hour later, 22:40Z, propagation does improve, local people switch off their home electronics, and things get better.
DI2AM peaking 539 now.

I would give it a try again now, 
but prefer to sleep after 00:00Z.

vy73
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Hello all!

I have set up a selectivel level meter (HP) as a LOFER-rx. I can see the
modulation of DCF39 very well but I never receiced any other signal.

So I would need a station close to me (JN88HL) who can transmit on a
predifined qrg (137.7 ?) at a scheduled time to see if my RX is
sensitive enough.

I've spent half of last night staring at the screen but didn't see
anything but the dcf39.....

When i connect the level generator set to -50dbm to some meters of wire,
i can see a clear line on the spectro but i'm not sure if that
sensitivity is enough for real signals...

So if anybody is planning activity on 137 for today, please let me know.

Tnx and 73

de OE3GHB

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Dear Gerhard, Nicolas, Jean-Pierre,

Thanks for the reports - the beacon is now QRT at 1530utc. I will try again 
later when it begins to get dark at around 2000utc for a few hours - I 
expect signal levels will be higher after dark, but so will be QRN, of 
course.

OE3GHB wrote:
>
> I'm using my shortwave-antenna, a 55m long endfed wire in about 12m
> height as antenna for lf. it's connected to the unsymmetrical input of
> the Selective Level Meter. I think using this antenna is the first
> problem. Another one ist that I don't have a preamp yet.

The signal level from that antenna will be much higher if it is tuned to 
resonance, which could be done with an adjustable series inductance of a few 
mH, or, for RX-only, with a fixed inductance in series with the RX input and 
a variable capacitor connected between antenna and ground to make a simple L 
matching network. A long-wave ferrite rod antenna would work for the 
inductor in this case. This will give very sharp selectivity, and an 
increase in signal level of 20 - 30dB, so a preamp should not be neccessary.

>The 2nd antenna
> is a resonant frame antenna with about 1m diameter. Unfortunately I
> haven't managed to bring it outside somehow and so I'm using it in the
> shack which gives me a lot of QRM, especially from the tube-monitor
> (n*75Hz vert. frequenzy).

Usually, such an antenna must be distant from mains electrical wiring to 
achieve a low QRM level, so usually has to be outside to work well. But, if 
you can find a good position, it will achieve 30dB or more rejection of 
unwanted signals if the null direction is adjusted carefully. This would 
help with the QRM from DCF39, if directions are favourable.

> The Level Meter only has a 22Hz and a 3.1khz filter. I just can use the
> 3.1 filter which gaves me lot of QRM from DCF39. I have tuned to 137.15
> becasue I found that this qrg is quiet (-107dbm) compared to some 100Hz
> up and down where the noise level is up to -92dbm. I think this noise is
> produced by the carrier of DCF39 somehow.
>
The DCF39 sidebands have maxima and minima across the band , due to the 
spectrum of the FSK modulation used. I guess in OE, similar sidebands from 
HGA22 could also be a problem. I can transmit on 137.15k, or another 
frequency with a low noise level if you prefer - let me know.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU



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Dear All

Went QRT shortly after start due to S9+20 local QRN.  Need to do some
detective work to find cause. Prob a SMPS or neighbours PLT  Will power down
mains on house when XYL is at work and do process of elim. 

Will hopefully be back on tonight. 

Nice set up there Pedro!!  Envious!


With best regards
 
Dr. James Cowburn  G7NKS



-----Original Message-----
From: Pedro M.J. Wyns (netbook) [mailto:pedro.wyns@telenet.be] 
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Subject: Re: G7NKS active on 503.4 cw /ON7WP

just switched off my beacon to upgrade the PC with some spectrum analysis
software.

First tests on this end, picture enclosed

About 100W into 40m vertical.  3A antenna current.  New toy for daddy
here...



James Moritz schreef:
> Dear Jim, LF Group,
>
> Nil copy so far on 503.4kHz... But I seem to be hearing ON7WP on 
> 503.0kHz, RST 229. The signal is extremely weak, probably because it 
> is in the null of the antenna I am using to cancel the local QRM - 
> others will probably be able to hear it better than me. The sinal now 
> seems to have disappeared at 2055utc
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Cowburn" 
> <james.cowburn@virgin.net>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 8:49 PM
> Subject: LF: G7NKS active on 503.4 cw
>
>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> On new ant and ATU system tonight on 503.4kHz signing "CQ test de 
>> G7NKS" at
>> approx 7wpm
>>
>> thnks for any reports
>>
>>
>> With best regards
>>
>>
>> Jim G7NKS
>>
>
>
>




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Hi LF & SAQ,

 

Transmission at 1200utc was 100% copy although not too strong at RST 519.

 

Using Mini-Whip at 9mtrs & JRC NRD-345 receiver, external audio filter set
at 100Hz to help reduce static crashes.

 

73,

 

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You seem to have got it working now (22:30a)
Andy  G4JNT
wobbleU cubed .g4jnt.kom


2009/6/30 Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>

> Andy, LF,
>
> Unable to restart the 503.7kHz grabber at the moment due to usb sound card
> failure.
>
> Will be on as soon as a replacement card is available.
>
> 73
>
> Gary - G4WGT.
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Andy Talbot
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> My beacon on 503.7kHz is back on.  04/19/34/49 minutes past the hour
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You seem to have got it working now (22:30a)<br clear=3D"all">Andy =A0G4JN=
T<br>wobbleU cubed .g4jnt.kom<br><br><br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/6/30 Gary - G4WGT <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a=
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start the 503.7kHz grabber at the moment due to usb sound card<br>failure.=
<br>
<br>Will be on as soon as a replacement card is available.<br><br>73<br><b=
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Subject: LF: 503.7kHz - its back<br><br>My beacon on 503.7kHz is back on.=
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Hello Henny , Warren ,

Last night , the grabber could not charge the ftp ( failure connection
Internet ) , but the capures are stored in the PC .
Good copy of WD2XGJ (01:30 =3D> 03:30) to see united pictures .

73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

henny van elst a =E9crit :
> Hi Warren,Lf
> Nice copy XGJ
> Henny pa3cpm
> best 73s
>  =20


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Hi Roelof and Nicolas,
I have a manual, and your E-mail has spurred me on to finish scanning=
 it and put it on my web site.
you will find it here:
http://www.qsl.net/m0wye/D2155/k2155man.htm
It is a curious format, 150mm x 220mm folded over in a plastic wallet.
I do not have any circuit diagrams.
The manual contains 17 pieces of paper, there is an "A" side and a "B"=
 side. If there appear to be pages missing in my list, it is because=
 they were blank and I didn't scan them.

Some of the text was quite small to I had to keep the resolution high,=
 otherwise I would have made the files smaller. For a similar reason=
 I have used GIF format, which is better for text and diagrams, than=
 jpg which is better for photos.
I did try using Textbridge to do character recognition, but it was goi=
ng to take an awflly long time to proof read it and it destroyed the=
 formating.
73
Hugh M0WYE

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: F4DTL@aol.com=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 5:00 PM
  Subject: Re: LF: Siemens D2155


  Hello Roelof, I have a D2155 selective level meter with the W3155 tr=
acking oscillator, I have no documentation but the battery is of 12V=
 7A

  Best regards F4DTL Nicolas


  Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 25/06/2009 17:49:05 Paris, Madrid (heure d'=
=E9t=E9), roelof@ndb.demon.nl a =E9crit :
    Hello all,

    I have received a question from someone who owns a Siemens D2155=
 selective =20
    level meter.
    I have owned one in the past, but it has move on to a good home an=
d I am =20
    not able to check things anymore.

    Does anyone now a source for the manual?

    Does anyone know the type of the internal battery and the voltage=
 and =20
    current rating?

    Any help will be much appreciated.

    Best regards,
    Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt


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<DIV>Hi Roelof and Nicolas,</DIV>
<DIV>I have a manual, and your E-mail has spurred me on to finish scan=
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and put it on my web site.</DIV>
<DIV>you will find it here:</DIV>
<DIV><A   href=3D"http://www.qsl.net/m0wye/D2155/k2155man.htm">http://=
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<DIV>It is a curious format, 150mm x 220mm folded over in a plastic=20
wallet.</DIV>
<DIV>I do not have any circuit diagrams.</DIV>
<DIV>The manual contains 17 pieces of paper, there is an "A" side and=
 a "B"=20
side. If there appear to be pages missing in my list, it is because th=
ey were=20
blank and I didn't scan them.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Some of the text was quite small to I had to keep the resolution=
 high,=20
otherwise I would have made the files smaller. For a similar reason I=
 have used=20
GIF format, which is better for text and diagrams, than jpg which is=
 better for=20
photos.</DIV>
<DIV>I did try using Textbridge to do character recognition, but it wa=
s going to=20
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<DIV>73</DIV>
<DIV>Hugh M0WYE</DIV>
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  <DIV>Hello Roelof, I have a D2155 selective&nbsp;level meter&nbsp;wi=
th=20
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  <DIV><STRONG>Best regards F4DTL Nicolas</STRONG></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 25/06/2009 17:49:05 Paris, Madrid (heu=
re d'=E9t=E9),=20
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73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

Quoting James Moritz <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>:

> Dear Gerhard, LF Group,
>
> The beacon is now running again at 2000utc, as before in DFCW mode centered
> on 137.680kHz. I will leave it running for a few hours at least. It is still
> quite light here, so I expect signal levels will increase over time. As
> expected, QRN has increased, too...
>
> Any reports very welcome,
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
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>
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Yes Hugh
I am able to get the info but I thought there might be a more direct 
approach.
Maybe a pdf file
73 and tnx mal/g3kev

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Hugh_m0wye" <m0wye@radiouk.com>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 11:44 AM
Subject: Re: LF: Siemens D2155


> Hi Mal,
> If your Microsoft Windows is the same as mine (XP or Vista) then when the
> mouse pointer is hovered over the small picture it will turn into a little
> magnifying glass and when you click it, it goes back to full size, with
> scroll-bars to move around the image.
> But I suggest you save the files to your hard disk and bring them into a
> drawing program or word processor and look at them / print them in that if
> you still have a problem. Windows XP has a very good Wizard for printing
> pictures, and Image Preview can save the GIF files into a wide range of
> other file types.
>
> You will appreciate that the files are about 3Mbytes each and so if it was
> all one file it would be about 100Megabytes - it took best part of half an
> hour to up-load on broadband as it was.
>
> In my e-mail I explained that I tried to reduce to size, but it all takes
> time and I wanted to get it up on the web as quickly as possible to 
> benefit
> Roelof.
>
> 73
> Hugh M0WYE
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "mal hamilton" <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 11:15 AM
> Subject: Re: LF: Siemens D2155
>
>
> Hi  Hugh
> I have a D2155 but cannot read your manual properly. It jumps from large 
> to
> small print after a few secs. Can u send the manual as one doc instead of
> lots of separate pages.
> de mal/g3kev
>
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: Hugh M0WYE
>  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>  Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 9:50 PM
>  Subject: Re: LF: Siemens D2155
>
>
>  Hi Roelof and Nicolas,
>  I have a manual, and your E-mail has spurred me on to finish scanning it
> and put it on my web site.
>  you will find it here:
>  http://www.qsl.net/m0wye/D2155/k2155man.htm
>  It is a curious format, 150mm x 220mm folded over in a plastic wallet.
>  I do not have any circuit diagrams.
>  The manual contains 17 pieces of paper, there is an "A" side and a "B"
> side. If there appear to be pages missing in my list, it is because they
> were blank and I didn't scan them.
>
>  Some of the text was quite small to I had to keep the resolution high,
> otherwise I would have made the files smaller. For a similar reason I have
> used GIF format, which is better for text and diagrams, than jpg which is
> better for photos.
>  I did try using Textbridge to do character recognition, but it was going
> to take an awflly long time to proof read it and it destroyed the 
> formating.
>  73
>  Hugh M0WYE
>
>    ----- Original Message ----- 
>    From: F4DTL@aol.com
>    To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>    Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 5:00 PM
>    Subject: Re: LF: Siemens D2155
>
>
>    Hello Roelof, I have a D2155 selective level meter with the W3155
> tracking oscillator, I have no documentation but the battery is of 12V 7A
>
>    Best regards F4DTL Nicolas
>
>
>    Dans un e-mail dat du 25/06/2009 17:49:05 Paris, Madrid (heure d't),
> roelof@ndb.demon.nl a crit :
>      Hello all,
>
>      I have received a question from someone who owns a Siemens D2155
> selective
>      level meter.
>      I have owned one in the past, but it has move on to a good home and I
> am
>      not able to check things anymore.
>
>      Does anyone now a source for the manual?
>
>      Does anyone know the type of the internal battery and the voltage and
>      current rating?
>
>      Any help will be much appreciated.
>
>      Best regards,
>      Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt
>
>
>
>
>
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Dave Pick wrote:
> Tim
>
> Yes, I use one all the time. The problem is usually the receiver, the 
> Wellbrook will easily overload even the best receivers with broadcast 
> signals as most don't have any front-end selectivity below 1.6MHz. Try 
> a 500kHz tuned circuit between the loop and the RX.
>
> Dave.
>
> 2009/6/10 tim hague <m0afj@dsl.pipex.com <mailto:m0afj@dsl.pipex.com>>
>
>     I've got a ALA 1530 Wellbrook Loop, is anyone using one of these
>     for 500kHz monitoring?, although I can hear NDB's nothing on 500kHz.
>
>     Tim M0AFJ
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK
Thanks Dave, I'll have a go, just for interest, how have you got yours 
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OK, Dennis, thanks! Have a nice day.

73! Lubos

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> Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 00:47:40 +0200
> From: Dennis.Hennig@gmx.de
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: LF: OK0EMW 13.VI.2009  late evening
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> Hi Lubos! 
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> Thanks for replying and for providing the signal :)
> Tonight beetween coming home and bedtime I tuned the RX to Your OK0EMW beacon as well:
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> QTH Berlin city JO62RM
> RX homemade simple superhet
> IF-bandwidth abt 150Hz
> ANT wireloop abt 15sqm, 
> 10m agl. in a linden tree
> "pointing Iceland" = NW/SE
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> OK0EMW observed 13.VI.2009 from 21:16Z - 22:36Z
> At the beginning of the 80min period rather a grass roots signal, disappearing in the noise, sometimes up RST 339.
> At the end of the observing time mostly a solid signal, RST say 559.
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OK, Dennis, thanks! Have a nice day.<br><br>73! Lubos<br><br>*********************************<br><br>&gt; Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 00:47:40 +0200<br>&gt; From: Dennis.Hennig@gmx.de<br>&gt; To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<br>&gt; Subject: LF: OK0EMW 13.VI.2009  late evening<br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; Hi Lubos! <br>&gt; <br>&gt; Thanks for replying and for providing the signal :)<br>&gt; Tonight beetween coming home and bedtime I tuned the RX to Your OK0EMW beacon as well:<br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; -----------------------------------------------------------<br>&gt; QTH Berlin city JO62RM<br>&gt; RX homemade simple superhet<br>&gt; IF-bandwidth abt 150Hz<br>&gt; ANT wireloop abt 15sqm, <br>&gt; 10m agl. in a linden tree<br>&gt; "pointing Iceland" = NW/SE<br>&gt; --------------------------------------------------------------<br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; OK0EMW observed 13.VI.2009 from 21:16Z - 22:36Z<br>&gt; At the beginning of the 80min period rather a grass roots signal, disappearing in the noise, sometimes up RST 339.<br>&gt; At the end of the observing time mostly a solid signal, RST say 559.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; vy73<br>&gt; Dennis<br>&gt; DL6NVC<br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; -- <br>&gt; GRATIS fr alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT!<br>&gt; Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01<br>&gt; <br><br /><hr />Pedvete svj styl pomoc zobrazen obrzk v Messenger. Prohldnte si je vechny. <a href='http://download.live.com/messenger' target='_new'>Klikni zde!</a></body>
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Hi Dave

Thanks for the reply.  It's my first attempt and antenna is not right yet,
it's a bit of a "chewing gum and sealing wax" job!!

I'll leave the rig running for an  hour or so.  I

I am using MCW mode off Digital master 780 with an Icom 735 feeding into a
home brew L with a home wound coil and matching unit.  I'm not overly
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Hi, Jim.

Nothing heard here yet...and no signals on the G3YXM grabber either, at the
moment.

I'll keep monitoring for a while.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor S E England.

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 Sorry but I meant 502.5KHz

Sending CQ Test on 5 mins cycles

Thanx for any reports

Jim G7NKS

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Dear All,

G7NKS active on 503KHz at 21.20 BST/20.20 UTC  sending CW @ 5wpm   "CQ Test
de G7NKS"

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Mal,

   My wife's cousin and family have already moved to the U.K., pity
that they are not hams though...
--=20
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
                WE2XEB/2
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2009/6/25 mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>:
> Warren
> Move to the UK the WX recently has been fb and OFCOM is user friendly
> regarding licences for LF and MF.
> De mal/g3kev
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Warren Ziegler" <wd2xgj@gmail.com>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 7:33 PM
> Subject: Re: LF: WD2XGJ
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> Graham, Lubos,
>
> =A0 Thank you for the comments, I'm not sure if sunspots are a good
> thing at LF - might cause more geomagnetic disturbances which could
> hurt propagation.
> =A0 The weather has been very bad here, storms, rain, humidity and no
> sunshine!
> =A0 Not good for operating.
>
> --
> 73 Warren K2ORS
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 WD2XGJ
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 WD2XSH/23
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 WE2XEB/2
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 WE2XGR/1
>
>
>
> 2009/6/25 Lubos OK2BVG <bvgbob@hotmail.com>:
>>
>> Hello Warren, LF!
>> That is FB news, thank you for it! I will apply for a new permission la=
st
>> month. I hope, that all will be OK. OK0EMW is on the air every night.=
 But
>> it
>> depens on the weather, of course.
>>
>> 73!
>>
>> Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS
>>
>> ************************************************
>>
>>> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 13:53:29 -0400
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>>> The FCC has just renewed WD2XGJ for another 5 years!
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>>> 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ
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Hi Dave, LF,

Thanks for your comments.

I thought that may be the case, I did some while ago make the mistake of
placing my e-mail address on my own web site. Then some one told me about
e-mail scanners which search for e-mail addresses on web sites, I removed my
references but too late.

I have had a lot of spam for a long while now but my Zone Alarm Internet
Security detects them & places them in a special folder & seems to disable
the links, so after checking if there are any valid ones I just delete the
e-mails. This latest issue just had me a bit worried that it could be more
serious but maybe not. I just hope that it will die down eventually but I
know the usual spam will keep on coming unless I change my e-mail address.

Cheers,

Gary.



-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dave Sergeant
Sent: 23 June 2009 18:59
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Subject: Re: LF: Off Topic - Spam mails.

On 23 Jun 2009 at 18:40, Gary - G4WGT wrote:

> This is a bit worrying, I am getting spam e-mails using my e-mail
> address (this one - g4wgt) as the source/return address. I have already
> had a post from some one in Germany querying the validity of the return
> mail address so many others must be getting them also.
> 
> 
> 
> Is there some way to resolve this issue, stop it happening or notify
> some authority or what-ever?

In a word, no....

Spammers often do choose innocent individuals as the 'from' address as 
their spam mails - they are not sent by you at all of course, rather by 
large numbers of infected machines all over the world which they hijack 
for their purposes. It is virtually impossible to trace exactly where 
the mails were actually sent, and even if you did you could do nothing. 
These attacks usually die down after a few days after the spammer has 
sent his particular run.

Best way though is to stop your email address getting to the spammers 
in the first place - NEVER open spam mails if you have allowed your 
email program to download remote graphics (that means the preview pane 
as well) as that will confirm your address is valid. Never put your 
email address on websites in the clear, and general take care on who 
you do give it to. Using a program such as Mailwasher to preview and 
delete the spam before it gets to your email program is a good idea as 
well (but do NOT use its 'bounce' feature as that makes your particular 
problem infinitely worse).

73 Dave G3YMC

http://www.davesergeant.com




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James Cowburn wrote:
> Dear All,
>  
> On new ant and ATU system tonight on 503.4kHz signing "CQ test de 
> G7NKS" at approx 7wpm
>  
> thnks for any reports
>
> <http://www.eset.com>
Nil here either by ear or with FFT system.

73

Richard
G3CWI



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Dear LF Group,

Just had a nice QSO with Finbar, this time as EI0CF - the first QSO I have 
had with a non-G station on 500kHz. Apparently, his and 7 other 500kHz 
permits for EI stations have been granted, so hope to hear from them soon. A 
few minutes ago (abt 2300utc)he was calling CQ for cross-band QSOs to 80m.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU



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Pedro. LF,

ON7WP QRS signal last night at 2135utc.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dave Sergeant
Sent: 13 June 2009 06:30
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: RE: ON7WP now testing on 503,000 kHz

I guess distance makes a big difference on 500kHz.

I was not in a position to call Pedro last night, but at 2030z ON7WP 
was 559 here in Bracknell IO91PJ. At 2100z he was peaking 579 on the 
meter. Solid copy by ear all the time. There seemed to be nobody else 
on the band to answer his CQs.

73 Dave G3YMC

On 12 Jun 2009 at 21:34, Richard Newstead wrote:

> Gary - G4WGT wrote:
> > Pedro, LF,
> >
> > Seeing some weak traces on 503 kHz, it may be ON7WP ??
> >
> >   
> >
> 
> 2030z the cw is now audible and readable by ear here. Weak at present.
> 
> 73
> 
> Richard
> G3CWI
> 
> 


http://www.davesergeant.com


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  Hello Claude,your capture this morning.



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tu Markus,
best 73s
Henny pa3cpm
  ----- Original Message ----- 
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  Hello Henny,

  think I caught that on screen here as well, yesterday night around 22:00. Colour indicated northeast so possibly (UA4)WPF?

  Just saw your reply to DJ6GT's CQ. Heinz is calling often but he seems to have difficult receive conditions.

  Best 73
  Markus, DF6NM

    ----- Original Message ----- 
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    Hi,Lf
    Capture who?
    Henny pa3cpm
    best 73s
    Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
    captur who.jpg

    Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld. 


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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>tu Markus,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>best 73s</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Henny pa3cpm</FONT></DIV>
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  <A title=markusvester@aol.com href="mailto:markusvester@aol.com">Markus 
  Vester</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org     href="mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A> 
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  AM</DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: Re: captur who.jpg</DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hello Henny,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>think I&nbsp;caught that on screen here as well, 
  yesterday night around 22:00. Colour indicated northeast so possibly 
  (UA4)WPF?</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Just&nbsp;saw your reply to DJ6GT's 
  CQ.&nbsp;Heinz is&nbsp;calling often but&nbsp;he seems to have difficult 
  receive conditions.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Best 73</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Markus, DF6NM</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A       title=rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org       href="mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">blacksheep</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, June 06, 2009 10:47 
    AM</DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: captur who.jpg</DIV>
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    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi,Lf</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Capture who?</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Henny pa3cpm</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>best 73s</FONT></DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het 
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I use a 1530 as well, its mounted on a rotator about 2ft above ground level on a Barenco 
socket/spike. Works well 80m down to 500khz but being so close to the ground its a bit deaf 
above 80m as you would expect. My understanding is that for hf it should me mounted high up but 
for lf its better low down near the ground.

A rotator isn't really necessary as the beamwidth is quite broad but where I do find it useful is 
nulling out the local qrm, switch modes etc. 

>I can hear NDB's nothing on 500kHz
By NDB I assume you mean the 200/300khz variety so if you can hear them, 500khz shouldn't be 
a problem. I recent wspr activity on 500khz I found I could hear everything that others were 
hearing...at reduced strength of course, but then I don't have the room for "big gun" antennas 
here :-)

73
Trevor  G0KTN


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Dear Peter, Pete, LF Group,

Heard G3LDO calling CQ on 500kHz about RST 559, but could not establish a 
QSO using the small umbrella antenna. I did have better luck with M0FMT a 
little later, with 599 reports both ways.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU 



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mal hamilton wrote:
>  no one in QSO mode.


I called CQ several times. You are simply not trying hard enough.

73

Richard
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Hi, Jim.

I'm copying your beacon OK here at 20:30z

Measured signal levels (signal path includes a tuned pre-amp) are:-

beacon -63 dBm, -69 dBm, -77 dBm, -83 dBm, and the last dash is below the
noise level of -85 dBm.

The set up is a Mini-Whip on top of a 2.4m portable mast, tuned pre-amp and
SPM-30 with 1740 Hz bandwidth.
Intriguingly, the signal strength is much the same if I use my regular
transmiting 20m long "Tee" antenna at 5m instead of the MiniWhip.

If I turn my ADSL modem back on, the noise level jumps to -73 dBm.

What level of carrier power are you putting into the antenna?

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, S.E England

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Dear LF Group,

As art of continuing investigations into antennas, grounds, etc., I am
running a beacon at the moment on 503.5kHz - I am testing a small "/P"
antenna similar to what G3CWI proposed to use a couple of weeks back. It is
a 9m high "umbrella" with 4 x 5m long top loading wires sloping at about
45degrees. Ground system is 4 x 20m radial wires.

The beacon is transmitting an 8wpm CW identifier, followed by five 5 second
dashes at reducing power levels in steps of 6dB. The maximum ERP is
somewhere in the region of 100mW ERP. The sequence repeats every 2 mins
roughly.

I'll leave it running until after dark at least - any reports would be very
welcome.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU




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Good signal on 500 Khz band on CW beacon. Pse QSO mode
de mal/g3kev

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Mal,

that has nothing to do with the document (that in=20
fact is a series of gif pictures) but with the=20
settings of your browser that by default adjusts=20
the picture to fit in the screen.

Solution 1: buy a really BIG screen ;-)

Solution 2, move the mouse over the picture, now=20
a zoom glass should appear as cursor. Left-click=20
on the picture and it will be exposed in full glory.
for older IE versions: move the mouse to the=20
lower right corner of the picture (but still=20
within the picture) and click on the symbol that appears.

73, Rik  ON7YD


At 12:15 26/06/2009, you wrote:
>Hi  Hugh
>I have a D2155 but cannot read your manual=20
>properly. It jumps from large to small print=20
>after a few secs. Can u send the manual as one=20
>doc instead of lots of separate pages.
>de mal/g3kev
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <mailto:m0wye@radiouk.com>Hugh M0WYE
>To: <mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 9:50 PM
>Subject: Re: LF: Siemens D2155
>
>Hi Roelof and Nicolas,
>I have a manual, and your E-mail has spurred me=20
>on to finish scanning it and put it on my web site.
>you will find it here:
><http://www.qsl.net/m0wye/D2155/k2155man.htm>http://www.qsl.net/m0wye/D21=
55/k2155man.htm
>It is a curious format, 150mm x 220mm folded over in a plastic wallet.
>I do not have any circuit diagrams.
>The manual contains 17 pieces of paper, there is=20
>an "A" side and a "B" side. If there appear to=20
>be pages missing in my list, it is because they=20
>were blank and I didn't scan them.
>
>Some of the text was quite small to I had to=20
>keep the resolution high, otherwise I would have=20
>made the files smaller. For a similar reason I=20
>have used GIF format, which is better for text=20
>and diagrams, than jpg which is better for photos.
>I did try using Textbridge to do character=20
>recognition, but it was going to take an awflly=20
>long time to proof read it and it destroyed the formating.
>73
>Hugh M0WYE
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <mailto:F4DTL@aol.com>F4DTL@aol.com
>To: <mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 5:00 PM
>Subject: Re: LF: Siemens D2155
>
>Hello Roelof, I have a D2155 selective level=20
>meter with the W3155 tracking oscillator, I have=20
>no documentation but the battery is of 12V 7A
>
>Best regards F4DTL Nicolas
>
>
>Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 25/06/2009 17:49:05=20
>Paris, Madrid (heure d'=E9t=E9),=20
><mailto:roelof@ndb.demon.nl>roelof@ndb.demon.nl a =E9crit :
>Hello all,
>
>I have received a question from someone who owns a Siemens D2155 selectiv=
e
>level meter.
>I have owned one in the past, but it has move on to a good home and I am
>not able to check things anymore.
>
>Does anyone now a source for the manual?
>
>Does anyone know the type of the internal battery and the voltage and
>current rating?
>
>Any help will be much appreciated.
>
>Best regards,
>Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt
>
>
>
>
>----------
>
>No virus found in this incoming message.
>Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
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<body>
Mal,<br><br>
that has nothing to do with the document (that in fact is a series of gif
pictures) but with the settings of your browser that by default adjusts
the picture to fit in the screen.<br><br>
Solution 1: buy a really BIG screen ;-)<br><br>
Solution 2, move the mouse over the picture, now a zoom glass should
appear as cursor. Left-click on the picture and it will be exposed in
full glory.<br>
for older IE versions: move the mouse to the lower right corner of the
picture (but still within the picture) and click on the symbol that
appears.<br><br>
73, Rik&nbsp; ON7YD<br><br>
<br>
At 12:15 26/06/2009, you wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=3Dcite class=3Dcite cite=3D"">Hi&nbsp; Hugh<br>
I have a D2155 but cannot read your manual properly. It jumps from large
to small print after a few secs. Can u send the manual as one doc instead
of lots of separate pages.<br>
de mal/g3kev<br>
&nbsp;<br>

<dl>
<dd>----- Original Message ----- <br>

<dd>From:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:m0wye@radiouk.com">Hugh M0WYE</a> <br>

<dd>To:</b>
<a href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">
rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a> <br>

<dd>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 25, 2009 9:50 PM<br>

<dd>Subject:</b> Re: LF: Siemens D2155<br><br>

<dd>Hi Roelof and Nicolas,<br>

<dd>I have a manual, and your E-mail has spurred me on to finish scanning
it and put it on my web site.<br>

<dd>you will find it here:<br>

<dd><a href=3D"http://www.qsl.net/m0wye/D2155/k2155man.htm">
http://www.qsl.net/m0wye/D2155/k2155man.htm</a><br>

<dd>It is a curious format, 150mm x 220mm folded over in a plastic
wallet.<br>

<dd>I do not have any circuit diagrams.<br>

<dd>The manual contains 17 pieces of paper, there is an &quot;A&quot;
side and a &quot;B&quot; side. If there appear to be pages missing in my
list, it is because they were blank and I didn't scan them.<br>

<dd>&nbsp;<br>

<dd>Some of the text was quite small to I had to keep the resolution
high, otherwise I would have made the files smaller. For a similar reason
I have used GIF format, which is better for text and diagrams, than jpg
which is better for photos.<br>

<dd>I did try using Textbridge to do character recognition, but it was
going to take an awflly long time to proof read it and it destroyed the
formating.<br>

<dd>73<br>

<dd>Hugh M0WYE<br>

<dd>&nbsp;<br>

<dl>
<dd>----- Original Message ----- <br>

<dd>From:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:F4DTL@aol.com">F4DTL@aol.com</a> <br>

<dd>To:</b>
<a href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">
rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a> <br>

<dd>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 25, 2009 5:00 PM<br>

<dd>Subject:</b> Re: LF: Siemens D2155<br><br>

<dd><font size=3D2>Hello Roelof, I have a D2155 selective level meter with
the W3155 tracking oscillator, I have no documentation but the battery is
of 12V 7A<br>

<dd>&nbsp;<br>

<dd>Best regards F4DTL Nicolas<br>
</b>
<dd>&nbsp;<br>

<dd>&nbsp;<br>

<dd>Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 25/06/2009 17:49:05 Paris, Madrid (heure
d'=E9t=E9), <a href=3D"mailto:roelof@ndb.demon.nl">roelof@ndb.demon.nl</a>=
 a
=E9crit :<br>

<dl>
<dd>Hello all,<br><br>

<dd>I have received a question from someone who owns a Siemens D2155
selective&nbsp; <br>

<dd>level meter.<br>

<dd>I have owned one in the past, but it has move on to a good home and I
am&nbsp; <br>

<dd>not able to check things anymore.<br><br>

<dd>Does anyone now a source for the manual?<br><br>

<dd>Does anyone know the type of the internal battery and the voltage
and&nbsp; <br>

<dd>current rating?<br><br>

<dd>Any help will be much appreciated.<br><br>

<dd>Best regards,<br>

<dd>Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt<br><br>
</font>
</dl>
<dd>&nbsp;<br><br>

</dl><hr>
<br>

<dd>No virus found in this incoming message.<br>

<dd>Checked by AVG -
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EI0CF and GW3UEP both beaconing just above 501kHz.



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Rik Strobbe wrote:
> I just worked Finbar,
Wkd him at 2305z. He was 589 in heavy QRN.

73

Richard
G3CWI


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Pedro,

I have a VXO with a 4MHz ceramic resonator. That signal is divided by 
8. Range is 500.5 - 506kHz.
see
http://wireless.org.uk/500k_tx.gif
http://wireless.org.uk/qtx.htm

4MHz cer. resonators are available at less than 1 Euro in almost 
every electronic shop.

500kHz cer. resonators however could be interesting to build a sharp 
RX-input filter (cfr xtal ladder filter)

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T


At 14:50 15/06/2009, you wrote:
>Hello group,
>
>I just discovered that the European grossist for electronic parts has
>500 kc ceramic resonators in their range for less than half a Euro.
>this is a great building block for a tunable 500 kHz transmitter.  I
>ordered some for test purposes to see how far they can e pulled.
>Unfortunately they don't sell direct to customers, only to retailers.
>
>
>Pedro
>
>www.nedis.com



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Hello Pedro and team; LF

Now with sreenshot.....

Vy 73 de Gerhard  //  DK6NI  (JN59LN)

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-----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Beckmann, Gerhard [mailto:beckmann.erlangen@freenet.de]=20
Gesendet: Freitag, 12. Juni 2009 23:06
An: 'rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org'; 'leden1@on4aob.be'
Betreff: AW: ON7WP now testing on 503,000 kHz



Hello Pedro and team; LF

Your signal is clear audible in JN59LN now (449)

vy 73 de Gerhard  //  DK6NI

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-----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von Pedro M.J. Wyns
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Gesendet: Freitag, 12. Juni 2009 20:31
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; leden1@on4aob.be
Betreff: LF: ON7WP now testing on 503,000 kHz

test signal on air

reports appreciated on 3737 kHz (actually 3739 due to QRM...)

starting CQ for normal CW QSO on 19:00 utc and later

from 01:00 UTC CQ in QRSS 10

Pedro and team...



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I've got a ALA 1530 Wellbrook Loop, is anyone using one of these for 
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Hello Henny,

think I caught that on screen here as well, yesterday night around 22:00. Co=
lour indicated northeast so possibly (UA4)WPF?

Just saw your reply to DJ6GT's CQ. Heinz is calling often but he seems to ha=
ve difficult receive conditions.

Best 73
Markus, DF6NM

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  Hi,Lf
  Capture who?
  Henny pa3cpm
  best 73s
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Dear Markus, LF Group,

Thanks for the screen shot from Sunday night

> The appended clip shows four of your sequence repetitions, as seen in a 
> high resolution 21 mHz FFT - of course not readable but
> still showing consecutive dashes as a line in the upper trace and a gap in 
> the lower one. The emission appears to be phase coherent
> across symbols of the same type, but not across frequency switching. 
> Apparently the shift does not happen to be an exact integer
> multiple of the symbol rate, and after returning to the original frequency 
> the phase has lapsed by some amount.
>

The DFCW was generated, via sound-card output and transverter, by DL4YHF's 
Spectrum Lab "Digimode Terminal", set to 0.2 symbols/s and 2Hz shift. I 
think that would make some of the inter-symbol spaces 2.5s, so not an exact 
multiple of 0.2s maybe? I guess Wolf could confirm exactly how the phase is 
determined...

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU 



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OK May be thats what I used to hear Warren not VoA=A0.... if you hear some=
thing often enough it sticks in memory for a long time. =A0
=A0
73 petefmt

--- On Sun, 28/6/09, Warren Ziegler <wd2xgj@gmail.com> wrote:


From: Warren Ziegler <wd2xgj@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: LF: WHITE PLAINS
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Sunday, 28 June, 2009, 3:22 PM


> 1960.=A0 One of the first receptions I heard was a transmission that kep=
t
> repeating a message something like this:=A0 This is a test transmission=
 for
> circuit adjustment purposes.

Yes that was the only transmission I recall hearing from them.
It made me wonder why someone would put up a station just for 'circuit
adjustment purposes' and nothing else.
I wondered what kind of circuit would need such constant adjustment!
Looking back I suppose that they transmitted on several frequencies
simultaneously and the purpose of the constant transmissions was so
that the receiving stations could pick the best frequency for the
conditions.

--=20
73 Warren K2ORS
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 WD2XGJ
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 WD2XSH/23
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 WE2XEB/2
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 WE2XGR/1




On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Dexter McIntyre W4DEX<dmcintyre@att.net>=
 wrote:
> My first short wave receiver was a Knight Kit Star Roamer I built around
> 1960. =A0One of the first receptions I heard was a transmission that kep=
t
> repeating a message something like this: =A0This is a test transmission=
 for
> circuit adjustment purposes. =A0This transmission originated form an off=
ice of
> the American Telephone and Telegraph Company and is located near White
> Plains New York. =A0I received this signal from time to time for many ye=
ars on
> several different frequencies. =A0Many years later while reminiscing abo=
ut our
> past radio experiences with a retired AT&T engineer I asked him about th=
e
> test transmission. =A0He recalled hearing the same signals which he beli=
eved
> was for the HF High Seas Radiotelephone Service. =A0I've never found any
> information about a White Plains site but there is some documentation on=
line
> about several other AT&T High Seas HF Radio locations.
>
> Dex
>
> mal hamilton wrote:
>>
>> I remember a radio station on HF SSB years ago WHITE PLAINS. Where is=
 that
>> located, somewhere in the USA.
>> De mal/g3kev
>>
>
>
>




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<table cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" border=3D"0" ><tr><td valign=3D=
"top" style=3D"font: inherit;"><DIV>OK May be thats what I used to hear Wa=
rren not VoA&nbsp;.... if you hear something often enough it sticks in mem=
ory for a long time. &nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>73 petefmt<BR><BR>--- On <B>Sun, 28/6/09, Warren Ziegler <I>&lt;wd2xg=
j@gmail.com&gt;</I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT:=
 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><BR>From: Warren Ziegler &lt;wd2xgj@gmail.com&gt;<=
BR>Subject: Re: LF: WHITE PLAINS<BR>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR>Da=
te: Sunday, 28 June, 2009, 3:22 PM<BR><BR>
<DIV class=3DplainMail>&gt; 1960.&nbsp; One of the first receptions I hear=
d was a transmission that kept<BR>&gt; repeating a message something like=
 this:&nbsp; This is a test transmission for<BR>&gt; circuit adjustment pu=
rposes.<BR><BR>Yes that was the only transmission I recall hearing from th=
em.<BR>It made me wonder why someone would put up a station just for 'circ=
uit<BR>adjustment purposes' and nothing else.<BR>I wondered what kind of=
 circuit would need such constant adjustment!<BR>Looking back I suppose th=
at they transmitted on several frequencies<BR>simultaneously and the purpo=
se of the constant transmissions was so<BR>that the receiving stations cou=
ld pick the best frequency for the<BR>conditions.<BR><BR>-- <BR>73 Warren=
 K2ORS<BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; WD2XGJ<B=
R>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; WD2XSH/23<BR>&nb=
sp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; WE2XEB/2<BR>&nbsp; &n=
bsp; &nbsp;
 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; WE2XGR/1<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>On Sun, Ju=
n 28, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Dexter McIntyre W4DEX&lt;<A href=3D"http://uk.mc281=
.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3Ddmcintyre@att.net" ymailto=3D"mailto:dmcin=
tyre@att.net">dmcintyre@att.net</A>&gt; wrote:<BR>&gt; My first short wave=
 receiver was a Knight Kit Star Roamer I built around<BR>&gt; 1960. &nbsp;=
One of the first receptions I heard was a transmission that kept<BR>&gt;=
 repeating a message something like this: &nbsp;This is a test transmissio=
n for<BR>&gt; circuit adjustment purposes. &nbsp;This transmission origina=
ted form an office of<BR>&gt; the American Telephone and Telegraph Company=
 and is located near White<BR>&gt; Plains New York. &nbsp;I received this=
 signal from time to time for many years on<BR>&gt; several different freq=
uencies. &nbsp;Many years later while reminiscing about our<BR>&gt; past=
 radio experiences with a retired AT&amp;T engineer I asked him about the<=
BR>&gt; test
 transmission. &nbsp;He recalled hearing the same signals which he believe=
d<BR>&gt; was for the HF High Seas Radiotelephone Service. &nbsp;I've neve=
r found any<BR>&gt; information about a White Plains site but there is som=
e documentation online<BR>&gt; about several other AT&amp;T High Seas HF=
 Radio locations.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Dex<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; mal hamilton wrote:<=
BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; I remember a radio station on HF SSB years ago WHI=
TE PLAINS. Where is that<BR>&gt;&gt; located, somewhere in the USA.<BR>&gt=
;&gt; De mal/g3kev<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR><BR></DIV></BLOC=
KQUOTE></td></tr></table><br>



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Many thanx Claude for this first and nice contact with you.
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Hi!

After coming back home,  RX quickly rewired to
600m-operation, and then I enjoyed signals on 500kHz   :)
--------------------------------------------------------------
QTH Berlin city JO62RM
RX homemade simple superhet
IF-bandwidth abt. 150Hz or abt. 2,5kHz 
ANT wireloop abt. 15sqm, 10m agl. in a linden tree
„pointing Iceland“ = NW/SE
--------------------------------------------------------------
date 4.VI.2009
--------------------------------------------------------------
RX@SSB-Bandwidth
21:48Z – 21:57Z   SM6BHZ   43 SSB,  449 CW
--------------------------------------------------------------
RX@CW-Bandwidth
21:58Z – 22:00Z   SM6BHZ   549 fb
22:00Z – 22:01Z   SK6RUD   barely detectable by „interfering“ to local QRM
22:02Z – 22:04Z   DI2AM, OK0EMW 
        and all the others in the „beacon cluster“ around 505.1kHz: nil
22:04Z – 22:06Z   SM6BHZ   559 fb
22:06Z – 22:12Z   DI2AM, OK0EMW both peaking 339 qsb
22:13Z – 22:17Z   OK0EMW peak 459 fb
                  DI2AM 229 grassroots signal
        all the others in the „beacon cluster“ around 505.1kHz: nil
22:17Z – 22:18Z   SM6BHZ   559 fb
22:18Z – 22:23Z   OK0EMW 339 – 559 (22:20Z normal speed CW fb copied)
                  DI2AM  peaking 559 as well
        all the others in the „beacon cluster“ around 505.1kHz: nil
--------------------------------------------------------------
RX@SSB-Bandwidth again
22:27Z – 22:50Z   SM6BHZ  SSB 23 only fragments, CW 339  
              now much stronger local QRM,  
              so I gave up listening as it was no longer fun.
--------------------------------------------------------------
After typing this report, last receptions for tonight
RX@CW-Bandwidth
23:28Z – 00:39Z   SK6RUD   
             seriousely battling the local QRM, RST peak 459

00:40Z – 00:47Z   OK0EMW   549
                  DI2AM    549
--------------------------------------------------------------

Thank You all for the signals  :)
Unfortunately I missed Your qso,  Jim & Finbar.

Now I'd like to sleep...
vy73
Dennis 
DL6NVC




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WEBSDR is no good from what you have observed.
de G3KEV

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> Hello Richard, all,
>
> I did some 500kHz tests last night with the Twente websdr:
> - I cannot hear or see my own signal on the websdr (abt. 1W ERP,
> distance 200km)
> - While I heard G3KEV 599+ here I could not hear or see on Mal on the
> websdr (distance G3KEV-me = 510km, distance G3KEV-Twente = 540km)
> I guess a W3DZZ dipole is not the perfect antenna for 600m.
>
> The above is not meant to criticize the WEBSDR project of the Twente
> university (all respect for this masterpiece), just to inform that
> one shouldn't panic it your 500kHz signal doesn't show up.
>
> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
>
> At 22:29 18/06/2009, you wrote:
>>Amazing!
>>
>>I heard a couple of NDBs, "LAA" and "LI". You can also see what 
>>frequencies
>>the other users are using, which is interesting in a curious way!
>>
>>73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>>[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Richard Newstead
>>Sent: 18 June 2009 10:09
>>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>>Subject: LF: webSDR
>>
>>
>>Now covers LF/MF:
>>
>>http://websdr.ewi.utwente.nl:8901/
>>
>>73
>>
>>Richard
>>G3CWI
> DZZ
>
>


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Dear Gerhard, Rik, Jean-Pierre, LF Group,

Thanks for the reports - the beacon closed down at 0004utc.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
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My first short wave receiver was a Knight Kit Star Roamer I built around 
1960.  One of the first receptions I heard was a transmission that kept 
repeating a message something like this:  This is a test transmission 
for circuit adjustment purposes.  This transmission originated form an 
office of the American Telephone and Telegraph Company and is located 
near White Plains New York.  I received this signal from time to time 
for many years on several different frequencies.  Many years later while 
reminiscing about our past radio experiences with a retired AT&T 
engineer I asked him about the test transmission.  He recalled hearing 
the same signals which he believed was for the HF High Seas 
Radiotelephone Service.  I've never found any information about a White 
Plains site but there is some documentation online about several other 
AT&T High Seas HF Radio locations.

Dex

mal hamilton wrote:
> I remember a radio station on HF SSB years ago WHITE PLAINS. Where is 
> that located, somewhere in the USA.
> De mal/g3kev
>   



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I am of the opinion that the majority of LF and MF stations do not hav=
e suitable Receiving apparatus, probably the antenna is the weakness.=
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This applies also to GRABBER and a recent WEBSDR site.
There are a few stations doing very well on RX but these are RARE
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Just worked ON7WP on 503, 599+ both side (only 20km).
Pedro is still calling.
He is running 100W into a 40m high vertical (full size quarter wave  
for topband).

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T



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Dear Jim,

Visual trace with "Argo", but too weak to copy by ear. Screenshot attached.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor S E England.


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Hi, Jim.

Nothing heard here yet...and no signals on the G3YXM grabber either, at the
moment.

I'll keep monitoring for a while.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor S E England.

-----Original Message-----
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 Sorry but I meant 502.5KHz

Sending CQ Test on 5 mins cycles

Thanx for any reports

Jim G7NKS

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Dear All,

G7NKS active on 503KHz at 21.20 BST/20.20 UTC  sending CW @ 5wpm   "CQ Test
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Thanks for any reports


Jim



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Hello Warren , Lubos , Henny

Very good conditions at this beginning of summer! we are in the longest=20
days !
the night is very short between Warren and Lubos . Cheer , beautiful=20
capture of
Warren , Lubos ! ( JN88ks =3D> FN42hi =3D 6519 km )

73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

henny van elst a =E9crit :
 > Hi Warren,Lf
 > capture XGJ
 > Henny pa3cpm
 > 73s

Lubos OK2BVG a =E9crit :
 > Hello Warren, LF!
 > I saw XGJ signal this morning. Thanks for your transmitting,=20
receiving was very interesting!
 > Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS


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Hi John , LF ,
I copy your beacon last night ( see capture )
73 Jean-Pierre f1afj

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Hi Warren,Lf
capture XGJ
Henny pa3cpm
best 73s
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Warren,Lf</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>capture XGJ</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Henny pa3cpm</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>best 73s</FONT></DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het 
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Now covers LF/MF:

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Calling CQ on 136.7 Khz CW but no other CW acty hrd.
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Hello Jean-Pierre, LF!

I saw your signal between 21:20 / 21:50 UT. As you can
see, my RX was not perfectly stable at this time. It was started short time
before.

 

Well, I just woke up, so I am going to switch beacon
OK0EMW off and RX 137kHz on.

 

73! Lubos, OK2BVG
********************************
> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 22:54:17 +0200
> From: jpm.f1afj@online.fr
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: Re: LF: AFJ
> 
> Hi Lubos ,
> Thank you for the report , you receive my signal yesterday evening , or 
> this midday???
> I made test this night and this day .
> 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj
> 
> Lubos OK2BVG a crit :
> > Hello Jean-Pierre, LF!
> > Yes, I was surprised, the propagation was really good last night. I saw your DFCW signal UFB as well.
> >
> > GL and 73!
> >
> > Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS
> >
> > *********************************
> >
> >   
> >> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 13:25:17 +0200
> >> From: jpm.f1afj@online.fr
> >> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> >> Subject: Re: LF: XGJ
> >>
> >> Hello Warren , Lubos , Henny
> >>
> >> Very good conditions at this beginning of summer! we are in the longest 
> >> days !
> >> the night is very short between Warren and Lubos . Cheer , beautiful 
> >> capture of
> >> Warren , Lubos ! ( JN88ks => FN42hi = 6519 km )
> >>
> >> 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj
> >>
> >> henny van elst a crit :
> >>  > Hi Warren,Lf
> >>  > capture XGJ
> >>  > Henny pa3cpm
> >>  > 73s
> >>
> >> Lubos OK2BVG a crit :
> >>  > Hello Warren, LF!
> >>  > I saw XGJ signal this morning. Thanks for your transmitting, 
> >> receiving was very interesting!
> >>  > Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS
> >>
> >>
> >>     
> >
> > _________________________________________________________________
> > Pouvte Messenger? Pak tak pouvte Windows Live. Chcete vdt vc? 
> > http://www.windowslive.com/explore
> >   
> 

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<p class="MsoPlainText">Hello Jean-Pierre, LF!<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class="MsoPlainText">I saw your signal between 21:20 / 21:50 UT. As you can
see, my RX was not perfectly stable at this time. It was started short time
before.<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class="MsoPlainText">Well, I just woke up, so I am going to switch beacon
OK0EMW off and RX 137kHz on.<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class="MsoPlainText">73! Lubos, OK2BVG</p><br>********************************<br>&gt; Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 22:54:17 +0200<br>&gt; From: jpm.f1afj@online.fr<br>&gt; To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<br>&gt; Subject: Re: LF: AFJ<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Hi Lubos ,<br>&gt; Thank you for the report , you receive my signal yesterday evening , or <br>&gt; this midday???<br>&gt; I made test this night and this day .<br>&gt; 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Lubos OK2BVG a crit :<br>&gt; &gt; Hello Jean-Pierre, LF!<br>&gt; &gt; Yes, I was surprised, the propagation was really good last night. I saw your DFCW signal UFB as well.<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; GL and 73!<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; *********************************<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt;   <br>&gt; &gt;&gt; Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 13:25:17 +0200<br>&gt; &gt;&gt; From: jpm.f1afj@online.fr<br>&gt; &gt;&gt; To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<br>&gt; &gt;&gt; Subject: Re: LF: XGJ<br>&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>&gt; &gt;&gt; Hello Warren , Lubos , Henny<br>&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>&gt; &gt;&gt; Very good conditions at this beginning of summer! we are in the longest <br>&gt; &gt;&gt; days !<br>&gt; &gt;&gt; the night is very short between Warren and Lubos . Cheer , beautiful <br>&gt; &gt;&gt; capture of<br>&gt; &gt;&gt; Warren , Lubos ! ( JN88ks =&gt; FN42hi = 6519 km )<br>&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>&gt; &gt;&gt; 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj<br>&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>&gt; &gt;&gt; henny van elst a crit :<br>&gt; &gt;&gt;  &gt; Hi Warren,Lf<br>&gt; &gt;&gt;  &gt; capture XGJ<br>&gt; &gt;&gt;  &gt; Henny pa3cpm<br>&gt; &gt;&gt;  &gt; 73s<br>&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>&gt; &gt;&gt; Lubos OK2BVG a crit :<br>&gt; &gt;&gt;  &gt; Hello Warren, LF!<br>&gt; &gt;&gt;  &gt; I saw XGJ signal this morning. Thanks for your transmitting, <br>&gt; &gt;&gt; receiving was very interesting!<br>&gt; &gt;&gt;  &gt; Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS<br>&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>&gt; &gt;&gt;     <br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; _________________________________________________________________<br>
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Hi Jim

Many thnx. Was in Qso with Chris G3Xix. Not long range as he is also in
Biggleswade. 1st 600m Qso so dead chuffed! 

Just need to study up on antennas and matching so as to get more in the
ether and less cooking the finals

Jim G7NKS


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of James Moritz
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Dear Jim,

Just audible here, about RST 229 at about 2050utc on 502.65kHz.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU

----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 9:09 PM
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> Dear All,
>
> G7NKS active on 503KHz at 21.20 BST/20.20 UTC  sending CW @ 5wpm   "CQ 
> Test
> de G7NKS"



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Now on 501.5



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I am afraid not Gary, I have been seeing these and getting non-delivery
notices for years. I stopped signing my messages with my address when I
realised it was being harvested. Anyone can "forge" an email address
unfortunately which is why BT-Yahoo insists on Authentication being switched
on. Never put your email address on your web site in clickable form...use an
image. I made this mistake when i fiirst put my web site up in 2002.

Cheers de Alan G3NYK


----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
To: "LF -RSGB LF Group" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 6:40 PM
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> Hi All,
>
>
>
> This is a bit worrying, I am getting spam e-mails using my e-mail address
> (this one - g4wgt) as the source/return address. I have already had a post
> from some one in Germany querying the validity of the return mail address
so
> many others must be getting them also.
>
>
>
> Is there some way to resolve this issue, stop it happening or notify some
> authority or what-ever?
>
>
>
> 73,
>
>
>
> Gary - G4WGT - IO83QO.
>
>
>
>



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Dear Dave, Ken, Dave, Rik, Pete, LF Group,

Thanks for the reports on the beacon signal. If nothing else, it is at least 
a viable 500kHz TX antenna - as well as the reports, it is showing up 
reasonably well on the G3YXM and G4WGT grabbers. I have now closed down at 
2206utc.

The TX power was about 70W maximum, dropping to about 0.3W at the minimum 
power level. I haven't  done detailed measurements yet, but the loss 
resistance is about 70 - 80 ohms, and the antenna current just under an amp 
at maximum power. My "guesstimate" of ERP is 100mW at maximum power, down to 
0.4mW at the minimum level - I am allowing -6dB for the fact that the 
antenna is completely screened by the surrounding trees. The loss resistance 
is about 3 x that of my normal antenna, which has much more wire. The high 
resistance isn't a great suprise, as the ends of the top load wires are only 
a couple of metres from the trees and bushes. From previous experience, in 
an actual open /P location the loss resistance should be much lower, and the 
ERP significantly higher for a given antenna current.

The TX signal is a .wav file of CW and QRSS recorded from the "digimodes 
terminal" in Spectrum Lab, and played back through the linear transverter. 
The software generates a smoothly rounded raised-cosine keying envelope 
which minimises the bandwidth and results in the "soft" keying. The 5s 
dashes have a proportionally slower rise/fall - I left it with the default 
settings to see if anyone would notice, I think on balance a faster rising, 
sharper keying envelope would be better for a listening test. The variable 
power level was obtained by editing the audio level in the .wav file using 
some sound editing software.

As Rik observed, I did briefly operate last night as well - power was 
slightly lower then.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU






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bad capture , sry !

Hi Warren , LF ,

Just a short test at 01:20  ( many stormy last night )

73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj



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Many thank Lubos ,
73 Jean-Pierre f1afj

Lubos OK2BVG a =E9crit :
>
> Hello Jean-Pierre, LF!
>
> I saw your signal between 21:20 / 21:50 UT. As you can
> see, my RX was not perfectly stable at this time. It was started short tim=
e
> before.
>
> =20
>
> Well, I just woke up, so I am going to switch beacon
> OK0EMW off and RX 137kHz on.
>
> =20
>
> 73! Lubos, OK2BVG
> ********************************
>  =20
>> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 22:54:17 +0200
>> From: jpm.f1afj@online.fr
>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>> Subject: Re: LF: AFJ
>>
>> Hi Lubos ,
>> Thank you for the report , you receive my signal yesterday evening , or=20
>> this midday???
>> I made test this night and this day .
>> 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj
>>
>> Lubos OK2BVG a =E9crit :
>>    =20
>>> Hello Jean-Pierre, LF!
>>> Yes, I was surprised, the propagation was really good last night. I saw=20=
your DFCW signal UFB as well.
>>>
>>> GL and 73!
>>>
>>> Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS
>>>
>>> *********************************
>>>
>>>  =20
>>>      =20
>>>> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 13:25:17 +0200
>>>> From: jpm.f1afj@online.fr
>>>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>>>> Subject: Re: LF: XGJ
>>>>
>>>> Hello Warren , Lubos , Henny
>>>>
>>>> Very good conditions at this beginning of summer! we are in the longest=
=20
>>>> days !
>>>> the night is very short between Warren and Lubos . Cheer , beautiful=20
>>>> capture of
>>>> Warren , Lubos ! ( JN88ks =3D> FN42hi =3D 6519 km )
>>>>
>>>> 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj
>>>>
>>>> henny van elst a =E9crit :
>>>>  > Hi Warren,Lf
>>>>  > capture XGJ
>>>>  > Henny pa3cpm
>>>>  > 73s
>>>>
>>>> Lubos OK2BVG a =E9crit :
>>>>  > Hello Warren, LF!
>>>>  > I saw XGJ signal this morning. Thanks for your transmitting,=20
>>>> receiving was very interesting!
>>>>  > Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    =20
>>>>        =20
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Hi Warren,Lf
Nice copy XGJ
Henny pa3cpm
best 73s
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Warren,Lf</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Nice copy XGJ</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Henny pa3cpm</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>best 73s</FONT></DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het 
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Dear Peter,

thanks for your interesting mail.

One question regarding the general formula for radiation resistance:

In other places I found Rrad = 160*Pi^2*(Heff/lambda)^2 = 1579*(Heff/lambda)^2
whereas Zo*(2/3)*pi*(heff/lambda)^2 = 790*(Heff/lambda)^2

So there is a difference of a factor 2 (what looks very much like the 
perfect ground vs free space difference)

73, Rik  ON7YD

At 02:43 5/06/2009, you wrote:
>Rik Strobbe wrote:
>
>>
>>When I model a 11m high and 22m long lazy-L antenna (using 
>>MMANA-GAL) the modeling result seem to agree with theory: 0.027 Ohm 
>>at 137kHz and 0.359 Ohm at 502kHz.
>>But when I model a 10.5m high and 22m long loop, 0.5m above ground:
>>- 0.0013 Ohm at 137kHz and 0.033 Ohm at 502kHz, a ratio of only 25 
>>instead of the expected 180
>>- very different from the theoretical values: 0.00007 Ohm at 137kHz 
>>and 0.013 Ohm at 502kHz
>>- modeling in free space at 502kHz confirms the theoretical 0.013 
>>Ohm, but at 137kHz even in free space it is 0.0012 Ohm. If the 
>>claim that loop losses are not affected by the ground I would 
>>expect that the radiation resistance is not affected either.
>>
>>I guess MMANA-GAL is not suited for modeling very small loops, is 
>>there other software that can scope with this ?
>>Before going into the effort of putting op the loop I would like to 
>>have an idea of what to expect.
>>
>>73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
>>
>Dear Rick, LF group,
>years  before  reading your  present post  i  have found ,among 
>others, your review article  concerning LF antennae
>(btw, it  was  , and still is, a wonderful piece of  useful work 
>done upon this  subject)  In this article there was a formula
>giving  a theoretical estimate of  a radiation resistance of a small 
>loop. the  term 'small'  will be considered later..
>over the  past few years there were some (internet)  reports about 
>poor performance about  mmana especially
>when the 'real ground' option has been  switched on.  your present 
>post confirms  this issue but  which is more important
>and brings  my attention is the ' free space' performance  in the 
>case of low frequencies.
>so i decided to check out the  'theory'  behind the  formula  of
>rad.res. of  small loops
>
>from the very, very basic consideration of electromagnetic radiation
>one arrives with Johnson-Nyquist
>formula concernig the noise of carriers in a resistive medium i,e 
>"antenna'  which states that rad.res
>= Z(0)(2/3)pi(heff/lambda)^2 where Z(0) is an impedance of a free 
>space (377ohm) but which can be alternatively presented
>as 4pi10^-7 c where heff is an effective height of an antenna  and c 
>,velocity of light  which  , due to the units is 3 times 10^8 m/s)
>the so called 'effective height ' is a proprtionality factor between
>voltage induced in the antenna  due to the electric field .
>In the case of a SMALL  loop ( constant current ) simple 
>considerations due to the Farady law lead to its effective height as
>2piA/lambda , A is  loop area  ( single turn loop , air ).   Simple 
>math and we arrive to rad .res.as  320pi^4A^2/lambda^4
>as it is in your review. Rick, i did this 'check' because :
>a)  some aspects of my job are loosely connected with  electromagnetism
>b)  i like this sort of  ' brain recreation'   - 'play' with formulas, hi
>c) I  simply wanted to 'confirm'  this expression as being  derived 
>from the 'principles' i.e maxwell equations etcc.. and , first of all
>what assumptions, simplifications were made in order to get this. it 
>seems that  this expression is  strongly supported by 'principles'
>and considerations are ok.  let us go back to mmana performance .. 
>your mmana modelling  the loop at 502  kHz  in a free space
>  is consistent with theoretical  estimate  while  137 kHz  case 
> gives discrepancy.  Considering only the theoretical expression  of rad.res
>it just should be the opposite !  the loop is 'smaller' at 137  or 
>'bigger' at 502  in terms of a wavelength  :)
>Therefore, it must be  some sort of   intrinsic error in mmana 
>performance when going to lower frequencies  due rather
>to the method and not to the 'physics'  . mmana is based on  the 
>"method of  moments"  and may be it is the segmentation  issue
>which comes into play in the case of lower frequencies - those DM1, 
>DM2 parameters etc..
>I must admit i've never played with these parameters  - usually i  was
>opening one of the existing antennae files
>in the  samples  subdirectories and was using it as a starting point
>for  changing the geometries etc.. (but for HF so far..)
>
>                                                  yours, peter, sq7mpj
>qth: lodz , jo91rs
>



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On 23 Jun 2009 at 18:40, Gary - G4WGT wrote:

> This is a bit worrying, I am getting spam e-mails using my e-mail
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> had a post from some one in Germany querying the validity of the return
> mail address so many others must be getting them also.
> 
> 
> 
> Is there some way to resolve this issue, stop it happening or notify
> some authority or what-ever?

In a word, no....

Spammers often do choose innocent individuals as the 'from' address as 
their spam mails - they are not sent by you at all of course, rather by 
large numbers of infected machines all over the world which they hijack 
for their purposes. It is virtually impossible to trace exactly where 
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These attacks usually die down after a few days after the spammer has 
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Dave Pick schrieb:
> Gus
>
> I just get a screen full of random characters in Firefox.
> In Internet Explorer (which I don't use) it works OK.
>
> Dave G3YXM
>
The same at my side!

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That's good, might be a sun spot by then !

G ..

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Hi!
Following signals observed tonight 
12.VI.- 13.VI.2009 

-----------------------------------------------------------
QTH Berlin city JO62RM
RX homemade simple superhet
IF-bandwidth abt 150Hz
ANT wireloop abt 15sqm, 
10m agl. in a linden tree
„pointing Iceland“ = NW/SE
--------------------------------------------------------------



23:18Z - 00:27Z   OK0EMW  distance about 482km
audible for an estimated one-third of the observing time
RST peaking say 559 at max.

00:28Z - 00:59Z   SK6RUD  distance about 538km
The local carriers usually blocking 500.000kHz
surprisingly weren't present this time.
Signal audible for most of the 31min 
observing time, RST peaking say 539 at max.


Thank You for providing the signals :)

vy73
Dennis
DL6NVC














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Hello Henny, Jean-Pierre,

  Thank you for the excellent captures!
--=20
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
                WE2XEB/2
                WE2XGR/1



On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 3:49 AM, "Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9
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> Hello Henny , Warren ,
>
> Last night , the grabber could not charge the ftp ( failure connection
> Internet ) , but the capures are stored in the PC .
> Good copy of WD2XGJ (01:30 =3D> 03:30) to see united pictures .
>
> 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj
>
> henny van elst a =E9crit :
>>
>> Hi Warren,Lf
>> Nice copy XGJ
>> Henny pa3cpm
>> best 73s
>>
>
>
>

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Thank you Henny for the capture!
WD2XGJ may be off - storms are predicted for the next few days.

-- 
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
                WE2XEB/2
                WE2XGR/1



2009/6/3 henny van elst <cpm@planet.nl>:
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> capture XGJ
> Henny pa3cpm
> 73s
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Dear Richard, LF Group,

The umbrella antenna has a capacitance of about 144pF (against 129pF 
calculated by EZNEC) and a resistance of about 70ohms (rising to nearer 80 
ohms after some rain). It was tuned by a tapped series loading coil with 
variometer for fine tuning - the total inductance required is around 700uH. 
The coil added a further loss resistance of 9 ohms. Resistance matching to 
the TX was done with a multi-tapped auto transformer wound on a small SMPS 
core. To prevent a lot of RF current flowing down the coax feeder to mains 
earth and bypassing the radials, I used a common-mode choke in the feeder at 
the ATU end consisting of about 20 turns of RG58 coax on a large ferrite 
toroid core.

I also tried the idea of tuning the capacitive reactance of the radials 
using a coil in series with the ground connection to the ATU. This used a 
small tapped coil of about 50uH maximum between the ground terminal of the 
transformer, and the common point of the 4 radial wires. I measured the RF 
voltage between the transformer ground terminal and a "real ground" ground 
spike at the bottom of the antenna using a diode voltmeter. With no radial 
tuning inductance, the RF voltage was about 90V with 1A antenna current. 
Adjusting the tap on the coil gave a minimum of 17V (including a few V due 
to the local broadcast stations!). This required about 26uH of inductance - 
the main loading coil has to be reduced by the same amount to maintain 
resonance. It is not possible to get 0V in this way, because the tuning 
inductor cannot tune out the resistive component of the ground impedance, 
and anyway, the "real" ground potential is a bit arbitrary, but clearly a 
substantial reduction is possible, which would be useful for QRO operation.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU


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> Hi Jim
>
> I was out so I missed the tests last night. What ATU configuration did you 
> use? My system is just awaiting a suitable day for initial tests.
>
> 73
>
> Richard
> G3CWI
> 



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On 87kHz cave radio loop 60cm diameter.

Undetectable on my 136kHz loop (2m diameter).

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Tim
=A0
Try:-

Loop Antenna News and Information=A0 Forum
=A0
loopantennas@yahoogroups.com
=A0
Loads of info there!!
=A0
73 petefmt
=A0
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On Wed, 10/6/09, tim hague <m0afj@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:

From: tim hague <m0afj@dsl.pipex.com>
Subject: Re: LF: Re Welbrook Loops
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Wednesday, 10 June, 2009, 9:47 AM



Dave Pick wrote:
> Tim
>=20
> Yes, I use one all the time. The problem is usually the receiver, the Well=
brook will easily overload even the best receivers with broadcast signals as=
 most don't have any front-end selectivity below 1.6MHz. Try a 500kHz tuned=20=
circuit between the loop and the RX.
>=20
> Dave.
>=20
> 2009/6/10 tim hague <m0afj@dsl.pipex.com <mailto:m0afj@dsl.pipex.com>>
>=20
>=A0 =A0=A0=A0I've got a ALA 1530 Wellbrook Loop, is anyone using one of the=
se
>=A0 =A0=A0=A0for 500kHz monitoring?, although I can hear NDB's nothing on 5=
00kHz.
>=20
>=A0 =A0=A0=A0Tim M0AFJ
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> -- G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK
Thanks Dave, I'll have a go, just for interest, how have you got yours mount=
ed?, do you find you need a rotator?

Best Regards

Tim M0AFJ




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<DIV>Try:-</DIV>
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<DIV>Loads of info there!!</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>73 petefmt</DIV>
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<DIV>On <B>Wed, 10/6/09, tim hague <I>&lt;m0afj@dsl.pipex.com&gt;</I></B> wr=
ote:<BR><BR>From: tim hague &lt;m0afj@dsl.pipex.com&gt;<BR>Subject: Re: LF:=20=
Re Welbrook Loops<BR>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR>Date: Wednesday, 10=
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<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5p=
x; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px">
<DIV class=3DplainMail>Dave Pick wrote:<BR>&gt; Tim<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Yes, I=20=
use one all the time. The problem is usually the receiver, the Wellbrook wil=
l easily overload even the best receivers with broadcast signals as most don=
't have any front-end selectivity below 1.6MHz. Try a 500kHz tuned circuit b=
etween the loop and the RX.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Dave.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; 2009/6/1=
0 tim hague &lt;<A href=3D"http://uk.mc281.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3Dm0=
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t;mailto:<A href=3D"http://uk.mc281.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3Dm0afj@dsl=
.pipex.com" rel=3Dnofollow target=3D_blank>m0afj@dsl.pipex.com</A>&gt;&gt;<B=
R>&gt; <BR>&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I've got a ALA 1530 Wellbrook Loop,=20=
is anyone using one of these<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;for 500kHz moni=
toring?, although I can hear NDB's nothing on 500kHz.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;&nbsp;=
 &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Tim M0AFJ<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;
 -- G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK<BR>Thanks Dave, I'll have a go, just for inte=
rest, how have you got yours mounted?, do you find you need a rotator?<BR><B=
R>Best Regards<BR><BR>Tim M0AFJ<BR><BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></DIV></td><=
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Gary - G4WGT wrote:
> Pedro, LF,
>
> Seeing some weak traces on 503 kHz, it may be ON7WP ??
>
> G
>

I too can see a signal on 503kHz - not audible yet but clearly visible 
on the FFT.

73

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Mal, It might just be worth remembering that the original pioneers knew
absolutely "zilch" about the science, art or technology we now use. The
"expertise" some of us claim is based on an almost stone age past. Bits
of wire inserted into pieces of coke, Tesla coils and arcs, electric
light bulbs with extra bits of wire, jam jars with foil liners, bottles
of acid with lumps of zinc and lead, G9BF running 8 parallel 807
connected to the DC mains overheads outside in the street?

A lot of us have been there and thankfully have moved on despite our
nostalgic yearnings for our Teddyboy, Mods'n'Rocker, Duffle-coated,
Luminescent ankle socks past (a few of us even stood by our beds and
said "Yes Corporal")!

The science is still the same but the techniques and methodology have
moved on. After you've gone there will still be guys doing radio in some
form or other and, rest assured, they will still be following the same
old footsteps - because they have to - physics doesn't change.

As an example I just spent an hour or two fixing a 1 Ghz counter - with
a multimeter - not "rocket science" - just "where did the volts go?".
Same old rules - same old answers!
An electrolytic or two later, we're up and running!

So, the modern generation use the internet etc,? Well, sod it! So did I
- to get the manual that gave me the gen. to fix the counter!

Your grapes must have the sourest taste on this group if not on the
whole internet. I wonder if you've tried them with litmus paper or
perhaps (and God forbid the scientific diatribe we might get) a pH
meter? 
  73 de Pat G4gvw

On Sat, 2009-06-20 at 19:09 +0100, mal hamilton wrote:
> Sri 
> Beaming East in DX mode
> mal/g3kev
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Richard Newstead" <g3cwi@btconnect.com>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 6:33 PM
> Subject: Re: LF: amateur radio
> 
> 
> > mal hamilton wrote:
> >>  no one in QSO mode.
> > 
> > 
> > I called CQ several times. You are simply not trying hard enough.
> > 
> > 73
> > 
> > Richard
> > G3CWI
> >
> 



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Hi Warren,Lf
capture XGJ
Henny pa3cpm
73s
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XGJ 18-06.jpg

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Warren,Lf</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>capture XGJ</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Henny pa3cpm</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>73s</FONT></DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het volgende 
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Rik
WEBSDR is capable of receiving Broadasting stations running Megawatts - that 
is truely a MIRACLE !!!
g3kev

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rik Strobbe" <rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
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Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: LF: RE: webSDR


> Mal,
>
> depends on what you expect from it.
> At the Twente university the WEBSDR covers 8 frequency bands each
> 600kHz wide (ham bands from 1.8MHz up to 21MHz plus DC-600kHz) with a
> single ADC fed by a single antenna.
> For me that is a real masterpiece, even though the system is not
> optimized for 500kHz.
> As far as I have tested it works pretty good on HF and for LF/MF 
> broadcast.
> Just don't expect the same sensitivity from such a WEBSDR as from
> some grabbers dedicated to 500kHz.
>
> 73, Rik  ON7YD
>
> At 12:39 19/06/2009, you wrote:
>>WEBSDR is no good from what you have observed.
>>de G3KEV
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Rik Strobbe" <rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
>>To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>>Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 9:45 AM
>>Subject: Re: LF: RE: webSDR
>>
>>
>> > Hello Richard, all,
>> >
>> > I did some 500kHz tests last night with the Twente websdr:
>> > - I cannot hear or see my own signal on the websdr (abt. 1W ERP,
>> > distance 200km)
>> > - While I heard G3KEV 599+ here I could not hear or see on Mal on the
>> > websdr (distance G3KEV-me = 510km, distance G3KEV-Twente = 540km)
>> > I guess a W3DZZ dipole is not the perfect antenna for 600m.
>> >
>> > The above is not meant to criticize the WEBSDR project of the Twente
>> > university (all respect for this masterpiece), just to inform that
>> > one shouldn't panic it your 500kHz signal doesn't show up.
>> >
>> > 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
>> >
>> > At 22:29 18/06/2009, you wrote:
>> >>Amazing!
>> >>
>> >>I heard a couple of NDBs, "LAA" and "LI". You can also see what
>> >>frequencies
>> >>the other users are using, which is interesting in a curious way!
>> >>
>> >>73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
>> >>
>> >>-----Original Message-----
>> >>From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>> >>[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Richard 
>> >>Newstead
>> >>Sent: 18 June 2009 10:09
>> >>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>> >>Subject: LF: webSDR
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>Now covers LF/MF:
>> >>
>> >>http://websdr.ewi.utwente.nl:8901/
>> >>
>> >>73
>> >>
>> >>Richard
>> >>G3CWI
>> > DZZ
>> >
>> >
>>
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Hugh,

> I've got a record by them

Yes and their 1973 hit "Step into a Dream" was used in British
television commercials for Butlins' holiday camps.
--=20
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
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On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 7:36 PM, Hugh M0WYE<m0wye@radiouk.com> wrote:
, it was in the charts about 1973.
> Hugh M0WYE
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: mal hamilton
> To: rsgb
> Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 8:05 PM
> Subject: LF: WHITE PLAINS
> I remember a radio station on HF SSB years ago WHITE PLAINS. Where=A0is=
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> located, somewhere in the USA.
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Hi Rik that would work quite well, there were some parameters for the
resonators at 4MHz discussed on the emrfd group recently. The parameter
measurement methosd are the same, but they were using the resonators for
"VXOs".

 I used measurements suggested by Jack Harcastle GJIR. If you are designing
for a 3 to 4kHz BW then you could aim at a much higher filter impedance
which makes it all a bit easier.

Alan G3NYK
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Hello Alan,

thanks for the info.
What I had in mind was a 501-504kHz filter so not
as narrow as the 800Hz filter you designed.
And as an input filter I wouldn't care about 10dB
(or even more) insertion loss as I always have a
20dB attenuator between antenna and RX.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

At 15:38 15/06/2009, you wrote:
>Hi Rick there is a problem building a sharp ladder filter with 500 or 455
>kHz resonators. I have played with a number. the difficulty seems to stem
>from the fact that to get a narow filter you have to design for a filter
>impedance of around 250 to 300ohms. then when you conside the ESR of the
>resonators of say 40 to 70 ohms and 5 in series you have a lot of loss
>through the filter. The best I managed at 455khz was about 800Hz pass band,
>but a lot of insertion loss. I think a more promising format is to use the
>resonators in shunt (parrallel resonance) with top coupling. I think the
>late Jan Noedling  LA2AK had some information on his web pages which I
>believe are still available. I have not tried that yet.
>
>Rapid Electronics does wire ended ceramic resonators for between 10p and
20p
>(exVAT)each in singles and discounts lots of 25  by a further 10% or more.
>No Min order but 3 postage on oders less that 30
>www.rapidonline.com
>Best Wishes
>Alan G3NYK
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Rik Strobbe" <rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
>To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 2:10 PM
>Subject: Re: LF: 500 kHz resonators at nedis.com
>
>
> > Pedro,
> >
> > I have a VXO with a 4MHz ceramic resonator. That signal is divided by
> > 8. Range is 500.5 - 506kHz.
> > see
> > http://wireless.org.uk/500k_tx.gif
> > http://wireless.org.uk/qtx.htm
> >
> > 4MHz cer. resonators are available at less than 1 Euro in almost
> > every electronic shop.
> >
> > 500kHz cer. resonators however could be interesting to build a sharp
> > RX-input filter (cfr xtal ladder filter)
> >
> > 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
> >
> >
> > At 14:50 15/06/2009, you wrote:
> > >Hello group,
> > >
> > >I just discovered that the European grossist for electronic parts has
> > >500 kc ceramic resonators in their range for less than half a Euro.
> > >this is a great building block for a tunable 500 kHz transmitter.  I
> > >ordered some for test purposes to see how far they can e pulled.
> > >Unfortunately they don't sell direct to customers, only to retailers.
> > >
> > >
> > >Pedro
> > >
> > >www.nedis.com
> >
> >





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My beacon on 503.7kHz is back on.  04/19/34/49 minutes past the hour
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Good signal again from SAQ in Nuernberg around 09:00, using SPM-3 selective level meter. QRN is now starting to build up again.

73 and a nice weekend,
Markus

DF6NM in JN59NK




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Hello Henny , LF ,
Within sight of the signal on the grabber ,
I think that it is a test of Nicolas (F4DTL)
or Claude (F8BOJ)
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henny van elst a =E9crit :
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I wonder if anyone has attempted to plot the diurnal noise levels on 
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particularly quiet?

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http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz?hl=en 

On the above site there is a design by GW3UEP for complete cw transmitters
25w and 50/80w using 8mhz resonators.  The osc/driver (501/504khz)

 is contained in a 4060 cmos chip and is adequately stable for cw work. Last
time I bought the 8mhz resonators they were 2p ea. From Rapid Electronics.

73

Mike GW4HXO.

 

 


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Hello Neils
Nice to hear u on 500 and I am QRV every day. Let me know when u are in QSO=20=
mode.
mal/g3kev

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: niels rudberg j=F8rgensen=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 7:06 PM
  Subject: LF: OZ now on 500 kHz


  Hello LF-Group!
  Less than a week ago I received an experimental permit
  for 501-504 kHz and 20 W ERP.
  Test transmissions this afternoon for field strength
  measurements were received by Mal/G3KEV and John/
  GM4SLV. Thanks were much to both of you for the=20
  reports.
  My TX power was 80 watts, the antenna current 2.5 A
  and I estimate the ERP to be about 1.5 Watts.
  Soon I will be in a qso mode and I look forward to=20
  having some to-way CW-qso=B4s.
  73
  Niels / OZ8NJ+

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hello Neils</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Nice to hear u on 500 and I am QRV every da=
y. Let=20
me know when u are in QSO mode.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>mal/g3kev</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dniels.rudberg@post.tele.dk     href=3D"mailto:niels.rudberg@pos=
t.tele.dk">niels rudberg j=F8rgensen</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacks=
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ksheep.org</A>=20
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, June 20, 2009 7:06=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: OZ now on 500 kHz</DIV=
>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hello LF-Group!</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Less than a week ago I&nbsp;received an=20
  experimental permit</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>for 501-504 kHz and 20 W ERP.</FONT></DIV=
>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Test transmissions this afternoon for fie=
ld=20
  strength</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>measurements were&nbsp;received by Mal/G3=
KEV and=20
  John/</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>GM4SLV. Thanks were much to both of you f=
or the=20
  </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>reports.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>My TX power was 80 watts, the antenna cur=
rent 2.5=20
  A</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>and I estimate the ERP to be about 1.5=20
  Watts.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Soon I will be in a&nbsp;qso mode and I l=
ook=20
  forward to </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>having some to-way CW-qso=B4s.</FONT></DI=
V>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Niels /=20
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Hi Jean-Pierre,

  Thanks for the capture.
Yes very bad weather with thunderstorms predicted the next several days.
--=20
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
                WE2XEB/2
                WE2XGR/1





On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 3:56 AM, "Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9
(F1AFJ)"<jpm.f1afj@online.fr> wrote:
> bad capture , sry !
>
> Hi Warren , LF ,
>
> Just a short test at 01:20 =A0( many stormy last night )
>
> 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj
>
>
>

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Nice qrss3 signal from F8BOJ, about 1 uV/m here. Captured at 13:06z on 137.7=
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73 es good luck

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DF6NM in JN59NK

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Nice qrss3 signal from F8BOJ, about&nbsp;1=20=
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I hope not. No more unattended QRM please
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> Thank's Andy
>
> Its been a very interesting facility ,
>
> May be one of the  EI stations could run in one of the  time slots over
> night to  give a east  west  plot ? ,
>
> Tnx- Graham .
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Andy Talbot" <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>
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>>
>> My beacon on 503.7kHz is back on.  04/19/34/49 minutes past the hour
>> ~+25dBm EIRP.  Callsign, power steps, full power carrier 25 - 30
>> seconds then PSK31 from :30s
>>
>>
>> Andy
>> www.g4jnt.com
>>
>>
>
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>
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>


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  Subject: Re: LF: Nice one Hugh ..hee Re: WHITE PLAINS


        Hi LF Group

        I think that must have been, or still is a big TX site because=
 I can remember listening to, I think, VOA (AM) from there on my SW on=
e valver back in the 1950s.

        73 petefmt

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          From: Hugh M0WYE <m0wye@radiouk.com>
          Subject: LF: Re: WHITE PLAINS
          To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
          Date: Sunday, 28 June, 2009, 12:36 AM


          I've got a record by them, it was in the charts about 1973.
          Hugh M0WYE
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            I remember a radio station on HF SSB years ago WHITE PLAIN=
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            De mal/g3kev
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During my sea-going days it was quite common for marine R/T stations to 
transmit a loop tape for a period when a ship called so that the ship's 
R/O could accurately tune his SSB receiver for link calls. The coast 
station operator would then call the ship and the link call or whatever 
could then be set up. Sydney/VIS used to come back with something like: 
'This is the Eastern terminal of the Australian Overseas 
Telecommunications Commission". Not sure about White Plains though. The 
AT&T marine R/T station in that area was WOO at Ocean Gate which I think 
was somewhere near Cape Cod. Maybe White Plains was a point -to-point 
operation.

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Mal,

depends on what you expect from it.
At the Twente university the WEBSDR covers 8 frequency bands each 
600kHz wide (ham bands from 1.8MHz up to 21MHz plus DC-600kHz) with a 
single ADC fed by a single antenna.
For me that is a real masterpiece, even though the system is not 
optimized for 500kHz.
As far as I have tested it works pretty good on HF and for LF/MF broadcast.
Just don't expect the same sensitivity from such a WEBSDR as from 
some grabbers dedicated to 500kHz.

73, Rik  ON7YD

At 12:39 19/06/2009, you wrote:
>WEBSDR is no good from what you have observed.
>de G3KEV
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Rik Strobbe" <rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
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>Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 9:45 AM
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>
>
> > Hello Richard, all,
> >
> > I did some 500kHz tests last night with the Twente websdr:
> > - I cannot hear or see my own signal on the websdr (abt. 1W ERP,
> > distance 200km)
> > - While I heard G3KEV 599+ here I could not hear or see on Mal on the
> > websdr (distance G3KEV-me = 510km, distance G3KEV-Twente = 540km)
> > I guess a W3DZZ dipole is not the perfect antenna for 600m.
> >
> > The above is not meant to criticize the WEBSDR project of the Twente
> > university (all respect for this masterpiece), just to inform that
> > one shouldn't panic it your 500kHz signal doesn't show up.
> >
> > 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
> >
> > At 22:29 18/06/2009, you wrote:
> >>Amazing!
> >>
> >>I heard a couple of NDBs, "LAA" and "LI". You can also see what
> >>frequencies
> >>the other users are using, which is interesting in a curious way!
> >>
> >>73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> >>[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Richard Newstead
> >>Sent: 18 June 2009 10:09
> >>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
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> >>
> >>
> >>Now covers LF/MF:
> >>
> >>http://websdr.ewi.utwente.nl:8901/
> >>
> >>73
> >>
> >>Richard
> >>G3CWI
> > DZZ
> >
> >
>
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Hello Warren, LF!
That is FB news, thank you for it! I will apply for a new permission last=
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 it depens on the weather, of course.=20

73!

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

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> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 13:53:29 -0400
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> The FCC has just renewed  WD2XGJ for another 5 years!
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 a new permission last month. I hope, that all will be OK. OK0EMW is on th=
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Dear Jim,

Just audible here, about RST 229 at about 2050utc on 502.65kHz.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU

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> Dear All,
>
> G7NKS active on 503KHz at 21.20 BST/20.20 UTC  sending CW @ 5wpm   "CQ 
> Test
> de G7NKS"



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Alan Melia wrote:
> Hi Richard,
> I think the noise variation is very similar to that on 136k 

Hi Alan

Thanks for the analysis. I was actually thinking more of locally 
generated electrical noise - hence the reference to Sundays. I recall 
doing some test with Peter G3PLX years ago. We conducted them on 
Christmas Day in the hope that some propagated industrial noise would be 
less. That was HF not MF though.

73

Richard
G3CWI




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Gary - G4WGT wrote:
> Pedro, LF,
>
> Seeing some weak traces on 503 kHz, it may be ON7WP ??
>
>   
>

2030z the cw is now audible and readable by ear here. Weak at present.

73

Richard
G3CWI



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Hi All,

 

Just a line or two for the followers of the G4JNT 505.7kHz beacon to explain
the erratic signal & noise levels recently on the beacon grabber chart.

 

Over the past few days I have been working on my antenna system. This was to
carry out repairs & improvements to the top load on my LF/MF vertical since
the damage due to the gales in the early part of the year.

 

The raising & lowering etc of the mast & antenna has had an adverse effect
on the Mini-Whip active antenna used for the reception of the beacon which
is also installed on the mast.

 

The work is now completed & I feel that anyone who is following the beacon
data chart will now see an un-interrupted chart apart from the times when I
use the LF/MF antenna for my own transmitting arrangements. This is usually
announced on the grabber page.

 

73,

 

Gary - G4WGT - IO83QO.

 


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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Hi All,<o:p></o:p></span></font=
></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font>=
</b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Just a line or two for the foll=
owers of the
G4JNT 505.7kHz beacon to explain the erratic signal &amp; noise levels recen=
tly
on the beacon grabber chart.<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font>=
</b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Over the past few days I have b=
een working
on my antenna system. This was to carry out repairs &amp; improvements to th=
e top
load on my LF/MF vertical since the damage due to the gales in the early par=
t
of the year.<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font>=
</b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>The raising &amp; lowering etc=20=
of the mast
&amp; antenna has had an adverse effect on the Mini-Whip active antenna used
for the reception of the beacon which is also installed on the mast.<o:p></o=
:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font>=
</b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>The work is now completed &amp;=
 I feel that
anyone who is following the beacon data chart will now see an un-interrupted
chart apart from the times when I use the LF/MF antenna for my own transmitt=
ing
arrangements. This is usually announced on the grabber page.<o:p></o:p></spa=
n></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font>=
</b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><strong><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'f=
ont-size: 12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>73,</span></font></b></strong><o:p></o:p=
></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'=
font-size: 12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><strong><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'f=
ont-size: 12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Gary - G4WGT - IO83QO.</span></font></b>=
</strong><o:p></o:p></p>

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Amazing!

I heard a couple of NDBs, "LAA" and "LI". You can also see what frequencies
the other users are using, which is interesting in a curious way!

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Richard Newstead
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Now covers LF/MF:

http://websdr.ewi.utwente.nl:8901/

73

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Dear All
Polish military NDB beacon NK (KN) active now 494kHz.
QTH: JO94?? Mode AM.
--
Vy 73!
Marcin SQ2BXI

> Dear All,
>
> G7NKS active on 503KHz at 21.20 BST/20.20 UTC  sending CW @ 5wpm   "CQ
Test
> de G7NKS"
>
> Thanks for any reports
>
>
> Jim
>
>



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Tim
=A0
Try:-

Loop Antenna News and Information F

loopantennas@yahoogroups.com
=A0
Loads of info there!!
=A0
73 petefmt
=A0
=A0
=A0
=A0
On Wed, 10/6/09, tim hague <m0afj@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:

From: tim hague <m0afj@dsl.pipex.com>
Subject: Re: LF: Re Welbrook Loops
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Wednesday, 10 June, 2009, 9:47 AM



Dave Pick wrote:
> Tim
>=20
> Yes, I use one all the time. The problem is usually the receiver, the Well=
brook will easily overload even the best receivers with broadcast signals as=
 most don't have any front-end selectivity below 1.6MHz. Try a 500kHz tuned=20=
circuit between the loop and the RX.
>=20
> Dave.
>=20
> 2009/6/10 tim hague <m0afj@dsl.pipex.com <mailto:m0afj@dsl.pipex.com>>
>=20
>=A0 =A0=A0=A0I've got a ALA 1530 Wellbrook Loop, is anyone using one of the=
se
>=A0 =A0=A0=A0for 500kHz monitoring?, although I can hear NDB's nothing on 5=
00kHz.
>=20
>=A0 =A0=A0=A0Tim M0AFJ
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> -- G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK
Thanks Dave, I'll have a go, just for interest, how have you got yours mount=
ed?, do you find you need a rotator?

Best Regards

Tim M0AFJ




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<DIV>Tim</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Try:-</DIV>
<DIV><BR><A style=3D"COLOR: #fff; FONT-SIZE: 136%; FONT-WEIGHT: bold" href=
=3D"http://groups.yahoo.com/group/loopantennas;_ylc=3DX3oDMTJlNjltdm4xBF9TAz=
k3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzEyODUxOTEwBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwODM5NjM3OQRzZWMDaGRyBHNsawNocG=
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<DIV><BR><A href=3D"http://uk.mc281.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3Dloopanten=
nas@yahoogroups.com" rel=3Dnofollow target=3D_blank ymailto=3D"mailto:loopan=
tennas@yahoogroups.com">loopantennas@yahoogroups.com</A></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Loads of info there!!</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>73 petefmt</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>On <B>Wed, 10/6/09, tim hague <I>&lt;m0afj@dsl.pipex.com&gt;</I></B> wr=
ote:<BR><BR>From: tim hague &lt;m0afj@dsl.pipex.com&gt;<BR>Subject: Re: LF:=20=
Re Welbrook Loops<BR>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR>Date: Wednesday, 10=
 June, 2009, 9:47 AM<BR><BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5p=
x; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px">
<DIV class=3DplainMail>Dave Pick wrote:<BR>&gt; Tim<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Yes, I=20=
use one all the time. The problem is usually the receiver, the Wellbrook wil=
l easily overload even the best receivers with broadcast signals as most don=
't have any front-end selectivity below 1.6MHz. Try a 500kHz tuned circuit b=
etween the loop and the RX.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Dave.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; 2009/6/1=
0 tim hague &lt;<A href=3D"http://uk.mc281.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3Dm0=
afj@dsl.pipex.com" rel=3Dnofollow target=3D_blank>m0afj@dsl.pipex.com</A> &l=
t;mailto:<A href=3D"http://uk.mc281.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3Dm0afj@dsl=
.pipex.com" rel=3Dnofollow target=3D_blank>m0afj@dsl.pipex.com</A>&gt;&gt;<B=
R>&gt; <BR>&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I've got a ALA 1530 Wellbrook Loop,=20=
is anyone using one of these<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;for 500kHz moni=
toring?, although I can hear NDB's nothing on 500kHz.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;&nbsp;=
 &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Tim M0AFJ<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;
 -- G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK<BR>Thanks Dave, I'll have a go, just for inte=
rest, how have you got yours mounted?, do you find you need a rotator?<BR><B=
R>Best Regards<BR><BR>Tim M0AFJ<BR><BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></DIV></td><=
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Good evening Gus,

Again solid copy ur SSB / CW transmission in JN59LN this evening!!!
Your SSB-Signal is about 449 // CW is 459 at low QRN.

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Tim

Yes, I use one all the time. The problem is usually the receiver, the
Wellbrook will easily overload even the best receivers with broadcast
signals as most don't have any front-end selectivity below 1.6MHz. Try a
500kHz tuned circuit between the loop and the RX.

Dave.

2009/6/10 tim hague <m0afj@dsl.pipex.com>

> I've got a ALA 1530 Wellbrook Loop, is anyone using one of these for 500kHz
> monitoring?, although I can hear NDB's nothing on 500kHz.
>
> Tim M0AFJ
>
>


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Tim<br><br>Yes, I use one all the time. The problem is usually the receiver,=
 the Wellbrook will easily overload even the best receivers with broadcast s=
ignals as most don&#39;t have any front-end selectivity below 1.6MHz. Try a=20=
500kHz tuned circuit between the loop and the RX.<br>
<br>Dave.<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/6/10 tim hague <span dir=
=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:m0afj@dsl.pipex.com">m0afj@dsl.pipex.com</a>&=
gt;</span><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px so=
lid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
I&#39;ve got a ALA 1530 Wellbrook Loop, is anyone using one of these for 500=
kHz monitoring?, although I can hear NDB&#39;s nothing on 500kHz.<br>
<br>
Tim M0AFJ<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham=20=
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LF,

Good signals from SAQ received here this morning. Signal was -83dBm, against
background noise of -94 dBm. Some QRN & static crashes.

Antenna is my regular 20m "tee" at 5m, RX is W&G SPM-30.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor S E England



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Good night Markus and all,

Thank you for precision about IGBT. I thought that the rising generati=
ons of IGBT could help us to improve our equipment. In my job to use=
 IGBT time to time but to 100 KHz maximum (For example HGTG20N60). IGB=
T has lower conduction losses and smaller die aera at equilalent power=
. We are going to wait for the next generations therefore!  :0)

Vy 73 Markus,

Jeff, F6CWN



  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Markus Vester=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 8:05 PM
  Subject: LF: Re: IGBT in 136 KHz TX?


  Dear Jeff,

  havn't actually tried it myself on 137 kHz. But from past experience=
 I'd say that while IGBTs may have less DC loss, they are much slower=
 (especially during turnoff). They can be used as effient switches at=
 some tens of kHz, whereas MOSFETs will easily go up to several MHz.

  Kind regards,
  Markus, DF6NM

    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: F6CWN=20
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    Good night to all,

    Anybody would have any experience on the use of IGBT in 136 KHz am=
plifiers?
    Thanks in advance!
    73: Jeff / F6CWN=20

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thank you for precision&nbsp;about IG=
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ment. In=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Vy 73 Markus,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Jeff, F6CWN</FONT></DIV>
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z TX?</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Good night to all,</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Anybody would have any experience=
&nbsp;on the=20
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Gary - G4WGT wrote:
> Pedro. LF,
>
> ON7WP QRS signal last night at 2135utc.
>
>
>   
At 2130 ON7WP was 549. OR7T was 419. GW3UEP also 419. Gus (SM? I forget 
his call) was 569. I called many times but my TX will only QSY to 502.5 
so could not net - sorry.

73

Richard
G3CWI



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Yes . at  least hf will be open when it  runs out hihi

see what 'we can do  later in the  year , hopefully
fpr  will be linear by then on 500

 wx is warming  up in the  uk and the  rain showers are getting heaver

Not seen many static storms as such , may  be the
spots charge the  clouds  from the  top .. :)

G ..



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From: "Warren Ziegler" <wd2xgj@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 7:33 PM
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>
> Graham, Lubos,
>
>    Thank you for the comments, I'm not sure if sunspots are a good
> thing at LF - might cause more geomagnetic disturbances which could
> hurt propagation.
>    The weather has been very bad here, storms, rain, humidity and no=
=20
> sunshine!
>    Not good for operating.
>
> --=20
> 73 Warren K2ORS
>                WD2XGJ
>                WD2XSH/23
>                WE2XEB/2
>                WE2XGR/1
>
>
>
> 2009/6/25 Lubos OK2BVG <bvgbob@hotmail.com>:
>> Hello Warren, LF!
>> That is FB news, thank you for it! I will apply for a new permissio=
n last
>> month. I hope, that all will be OK. OK0EMW is on the air every nigh=
t. But=20
>> it
>> depens on the weather, of course.
>>
>> 73!
>>
>> Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS
>>
>> ************************************************
>>
>>> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 13:53:29 -0400
>>> From: wd2xgj@gmail.com
>>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; lowfer@mailman.qth.net
>>> Subject: LF: WD2XGJ
>>>
>>> The FCC has just renewed WD2XGJ for another 5 years!
>>>
>>> 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ
>>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> Bu=EFte v kontaktu se sv=FDmi p=F8=E1teli z Facebooku a Hotmailu Kl=
ikni zde!
>
>



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Hi Lubos ,
Thank you for the report , you receive my signal yesterday evening , or=20
this midday???
I made test this night and this day .
73 Jean-Pierre f1afj

Lubos OK2BVG a =E9crit :
> Hello Jean-Pierre, LF!
> Yes, I was surprised, the propagation was really good last night. I saw yo=
ur DFCW signal UFB as well.
>
> GL and 73!
>
> Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS
>
> *********************************
>
>  =20
>> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 13:25:17 +0200
>> From: jpm.f1afj@online.fr
>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>> Subject: Re: LF: XGJ
>>
>> Hello Warren , Lubos , Henny
>>
>> Very good conditions at this beginning of summer! we are in the longest=20
>> days !
>> the night is very short between Warren and Lubos . Cheer , beautiful=20
>> capture of
>> Warren , Lubos ! ( JN88ks =3D> FN42hi =3D 6519 km )
>>
>> 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj
>>
>> henny van elst a =E9crit :
>>  > Hi Warren,Lf
>>  > capture XGJ
>>  > Henny pa3cpm
>>  > 73s
>>
>> Lubos OK2BVG a =E9crit :
>>  > Hello Warren, LF!
>>  > I saw XGJ signal this morning. Thanks for your transmitting,=20
>> receiving was very interesting!
>>  > Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS
>>
>>
>>    =20
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Hi,Lf
Capture who?
Henny pa3cpm
best 73s
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Hello Jim, Finbar;  LF
 
Copied your QSO in regular CW Mode.

M0BMU, Jim:  about 339;
EI0CF, Finbar; about 449;

Vy 73 de Gerhard // DK6NI (in JN59LN)

======================









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Chris
Use a separate pwr supply for the fan, not the same supply that runs the FET=
S or driver ccts. This is what I do and never had a problem.
mal/g3kev

  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  LF,
  I've nearly completed my new PA for 500 kHz and have now managed to
  stop destroying FET's.

  Unfortunately I have an unusual problem in that the heatsink cooling fans
  are going U/S.

  I have used 24 volts brushless PC-type fans and after a while they
  either die completely or start to go backwards slowly. . .

  The fans may be slightly over-run but only by a volt or so and on key-up=20
  (unregulated supply) and are situated about 50 mm (2 inches) from the heat=
sink.
  I have rf decoupled them from the supply but maybe not well enough !

  Any suggestions in curing this problem would be most welcome.

  73 Chris G3XIZ




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  <DIV>I've nearly completed my new PA for 500 kHz and have now managed to</=
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  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Unfortunately I have an unusual problem in that the heatsink cooling=20
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  <DIV>are going U/S.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>I have used 24 volts brushless PC-type fans and after a while they</D=
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  <DIV>either die completely or start to go backwards slowly. . .</DIV>
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  <DIV>(unregulated supply) and are situated about 50 mm (2 inches) from the=
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Sri 
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> mal hamilton wrote:
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> 
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> I called CQ several times. You are simply not trying hard enough.
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> 73
> 
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test signal on air

reports appreciated on 3737 kHz (actually 3739 due to QRM...)

starting CQ for normal CW QSO on 19:00 utc and later

from 01:00 UTC CQ in QRSS 10

Pedro and team...



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Claude,

 

If you have not tried already, the VLF Group may be a good place to ask as
well.

 

Post message: VLF_Group@yahoogroups.com 
Subscribe:  VLF_Group-subscribe@yahoogroups.com

 

73,

 

Gary - G4WGT.

 

  _____  

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Claude Berthebaud
Sent: 25 June 2009 17:46
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: hello all...

 

hello all.

I'm looking for technical documentation Receiver Shwarzbeck
VLF LSME 1530A EMI information will be greatly appreciated 
Amicalement 
Claude F8boj

 

 


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Hello Perdo,  LF

I can copy your CW-Signal with about 449 and vy strong QRN in JN59LN.
Will send you a waterfall screenshot of your last two transmissions directly
to your mail address.

Vy 73 de Gerhard //  DK6NI

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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von Pedro M.J. Wyns
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Gesendet: Donnerstag, 11. Juni 2009 00:09
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Betreff: LF: ON7WP now testing on 503,000 kHz until 10:30 UTC

Hi folks,

I am currently (next half hour..) testing my transmit antenna in rainy=20
conditions to see wether my isolators catch fire or not ;-)

CW beacon every 10 seconds TEST de ON7WP JO21IC at 20 wpm, legal limit=20
off course...

Pedro ON7WP-AA9HX






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Andy, LF,

Unable to restart the 503.7kHz grabber at the moment due to usb sound card
failure.

Will be on as soon as a replacement card is available.

73

Gary - G4WGT.

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Andy Talbot
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My beacon on 503.7kHz is back on.  04/19/34/49 minutes past the hour
~+25dBm EIRP.  Callsign, power steps, full power carrier 25 - 30
seconds then PSK31 from :30s


Andy
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I just worked Finbar, 549 with lots of QSB and QRN
He is still calling on 501.5 (21:35UTC)

73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T
Quoting Richard Newstead <g3cwi@btconnect.com>:

> 501.05 now. Weak at present.




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James Cowburn wrote:
>  Sorry but I meant 502.5KHz
>
> Sending CQ Test on 5 mins cycles
>
> Thanx for any reports
>
>   
Nil in IO83wg





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Hello All,

 

This is to advise that Finbar EI0CF is hoping to operate fixed Portable on
501.050 khz from approx 11000 to 1400 BST on the 17th and 18th of June.
Location will be Shannon Harbour, near Banagher,  Co. Offaly.  Antenna in
use will be a  30  foot vertical, with 4 top hat wires, fed against the car
body and on the ground  16x 20 ft radial system  A Spiderbeam vertical whip
will be used for support.  Transmitter power will be between 10/30watts.
All subject to site suitability, weather etc.  The system has been tested
with a number of QSO's with GW3UEP.

Shannon Harbour is where the Grand Canal and River Shannon meet and close to
the centre point of the Island.  Reports and cw contacts will be
appreciated.

 

73

 

Mike GW4HXO

 


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Offaly.&nbsp; Antenna in use will be a &nbsp;30&nbsp; foot vertical, with 4=20=
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hat wires, fed against the car body and on the ground&nbsp; 16x 20 ft radial
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Transmitter power will be between 10/30watts.&nbsp; All subject to site
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Dear James and others,

Thanks for your very interesting post. A couple of comments.


> Since the wire mesh would be quite a convenient earth system to use for an
antenna over a paved area, or on rocky ground, I tried laying it on the
concrete driveway:

The mesh might not be as good on a rocky hilltop. There is probably conducti=
ve soil under only 10cm or so of concrete drive, whereas a mountain may be i=
nsulating rock all the way down to Old Nick.



> For portable antennas, it is often difficult to drive long ground rods int=
o
the earth. It seems that short ground spikes, like the tent pegs, or
metallic conductors laid on the surface of the ground, do not make a very
good ground connection.=20

Have you tried arrays of tent pegs? We meet the same problem with cave radio=
 - it's normally done on limestone, with very shallow soil, and driving long=
 spikes in is virtually impossible. What does work well is (say) half a doze=
n tent pegs connected together. It doesn't seem to matter much whether they=20=
are in a straight line, a circle or whatever, as long as they are far enough=
 apart. There are recommendations for the minimum separation, which I forget=
, but keeping them a couple of peg lengths apart should be adequate.



For mountain top experiments, there is one comparison which might be worth t=
rying. One of our cave radio people noticed years ago that Loran reception w=
as far weaker on peat than on bare limestone. Since she said this, I've ofte=
n noticed that it's far weaker on deep soil than on the thin soil over limes=
tone. Cave radio aerials are completely different from yours, so I'm not sug=
gesting the difference would be in the same direction. My guess is that you'=
d get a better aerial on (ideally wet) peat than on bare rock.


73,
Chris G4OKW



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Mal,

   A good BC-348 is hard to find here. Many have been cannibalized for
parts and ruinous modifications have been performed on them!  Thirty
five years ago I myself through my BC-348 in the dust bin rather than
fix it! (I am sorry now!)  I would suggest looking at EBay.

-- 
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
                WE2XEB/2
                WE2XGR/1

On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 2:34 PM, mal hamilton<g3kevmal@talktalk.net> wrote:
> Still looking for a BC 348 there must be thousands scattered across the USA.
> De mal/g3kev
>


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> already :-))
>
>
> Hi Alan,
>
>   there is no danger.... I am sure you are familiar with that famous
> article of Edsger Dijkstra...
>
> Edsger W. Dijkstra observed in *Selected Writings on Computing: A Personal
> Perspective* that
>
> =93*It is practically impossible to teach good programming style to studen=
ts
> that have had prior
> exposure to BASIC: as potential programmers they are mentally mutilated
> beyond hope of regeneration.*=94
>
>
> :-) :-)
>
>
> 73  Alberto  I2PHD
>
>

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<div>... haven&#39;t used a GOTO or GOSUB for many a year now ...</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>Not in Basic anyway.=A0 PIC assembler is a different matter.</div>
<div><br clear=3D"all">Andy =A0G4JNT<br>wobbleU cubed .g4jnt.kom<br><br><br>=
</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/6/14 Alberto di Bene <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<=
a href=3D"mailto:dibene@usa.net">dibene@usa.net</a>&gt;</span><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0p=
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<div text=3D"#000066" bgcolor=3D"#ffffff">Alan Melia wrote:=20
<blockquote type=3D"cite"><pre>Now Now Alberto dont encourage him. I am sure=
 Andy has enough bad habits
already :-))
  </pre></blockquote>Hi Alan,<br><br>=A0 there is no danger.... I am sure yo=
u are familiar with that famous article of Edsger Dijkstra...<br><br><a>Edsg=
er W. Dijkstra observed in <u><i>Selected Writings on Computing: A Personal=20=
Perspective</i></u> that <br>
<br>=93<b><i><span>It is practically impossible to teach good programming st=
yle to students that have had prior <br>exposure to BASIC: as potential prog=
rammers they are mentally mutilated beyond hope of regeneration.</span></i><=
/b>=94 </a><br>
<br><br><span><span>:-) </span></span><span><span>:-) </span></span><br><br>=
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Jim,

An interesting  investigation,

Last  year i bonded everything  that conducted in the  back garden to the 
main earth bus bar in the shed, from short 6 ft alloy 2 inch scaffold pipes 
that hold  the  plants in ,  5 feet in the ground, to a 6 ft I section 
girder  that holds the mast and 2 10 foot  poles flush  in the ground

All of the pipes are connected with  insulated 35 amp 7 stranded wire , 
using a rf  ammeter it was possible to observe each earth 'working' .

Out of all, the  I section beam ( 10 inch x 6)  gave the  biggest reading , 
odd as the ground in that place is actually  covered and is quite dry, but 
this has the greater surface area , the pipes all gave  similar  results, 
but  round only  50 to  75% of the beam

Even though the  mains earth had 'always been connected , this re-work did 
improve the radiated signal on 500 and with a feed round 20 watts on 160 
mtrs an increase of 4 watts could be measured on the power meter

I would  assume this to be mainly  due to  reduced  local  I sqr R losses , 
in end feeding the top loaded vertical , but did show a positive result ,

Ive only  worked Hf portable , to  date, but I have  all ways made use of a 
handy  wire fence !

Tnx- G ..



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>
> Dear Chris, Laurie, Richard, LF Group,
>
> Thanks for the replies. Re the comments:
>
> G4OKW wrote:
>>...The mesh might not be as good on a rocky hilltop. There is probably
>>conductive soil under only 10cm or so of concrete drive, whereas a 
>>mountain
>>may be insulating rock all the way down to Old Nick....
>
> I agree - I don't think the wire mesh would neccessarily improve the 
> ground
> losses, but compared to the radial wires it gives similar performance in a
> quite compact form, which could well be an advantage in itself.
>
>>... Have you tried arrays of tent pegs?
>
> No, I limited myself to one per radial. My thought was that for portable
> operation with a vertical antenna, it would probably be easier just to add
> some more radials, while for fixed station use full-length ground rods 
> work
> better, and are probably less affected by the surface soil drying out. For
> the ground-loop type of antenna used for cave radio, I can see the array 
> of
> tent pegs would be a good idea.
>
> G3AQC wrote:
> ...> does seem to support my findings that the Mains/water pipes take most
> of the current,
> making all the work on radials earth rods etc a bit of a waste of time...
>
> The ground systems I tried are more-or-less insulated from the ground, so
> are coupled to the ground mainly by their capacitance, which has a
> relatively high reactance compared to their resistance. A ground rod on 
> the
> end of a considerable length of wire probably has a substantial inductive
> reactance compared to its resistance, due to the inductance of the wire.
> Either way, even though they may have low resistance, the overall 
> impedance
> of these grounds will be relatively high compared to a ground with a short
> connection to the return terminal of the TX or ATU, and so little current
> will flow in them.
>
>>...I would need to series resonate with a capacitor, value depending of
>>course on my particular system..... but did you say that the reactance was
>>capacitive ?
>
> The insulated radials, etc. have a capacitive reactance - the individual
> wires on the ground were roughly equivalent to 28pF/m. So these would
> require a tuning inductance to neutralise their reactance. For ground 
> rods,
> or buried bare-wire radials, I expect the reactance would be more 
> inductive,
> so a tuning capacitance would be required. Since we are talking about
> nanofarads of capacitance, or perhaps 10s of uH of inductance for the 
> ground
> systems, the tuning components required would be fairly small
> inductance/large capacitance.
>
> G3CWI wrote:
>>...I am intrigued about loaded radials in that the loading is effectively
>>supplied by the inductor in the ATU circuit. There was no sign that such 
>>an
>>approach worked on my last trip but possibly the inductance was
>>insufficient...
>
> The reactance of the radials adds to the total capacitive reactance of the
> antenna, so more inductance is needed to resonate the antenna. According 
> to
> your previous mail, you had somewhere around 60m of radials, giving an
> additional reactance of roughly 200ohms on top of perhaps 900 ohms for the
> 200ft long antenna. So the increase in overall tuning inductance required
> would have been quite large.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
>
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Hello LF-Group!
Less than a week ago I received an experimental permit
for 501-504 kHz and 20 W ERP.
Test transmissions this afternoon for field strength
measurements were received by Mal/G3KEV and John/
GM4SLV. Thanks were much to both of you for the=20
reports.
My TX power was 80 watts, the antenna current 2.5 A
and I estimate the ERP to be about 1.5 Watts.
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Test transmissions this afternoon for field=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>measurements were&nbsp;received by Mal/G3KE=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>GM4SLV. Thanks were much to both of you for=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>reports.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>My TX power was 80 watts, the antenna curre=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>and I estimate the ERP to be about 1.5=20
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forward to </FONT></DIV>
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Hello Nicolas and group lf=20
Your signal is very qro here thank you for this first qso on 137 khz=
 controles and pics are welcome thank you=20
Regards
Claude F8boj


  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: F4DTL@aol.com=20
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  Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 10:24 AM
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  Many thanx Claude for this first and nice contact with you.
  Strong signal here FB !!!

  F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP
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  <DIV>Strong signal here FB !!!</DIV>
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John , Warren ,

Good copy of yours beacon last night  .

73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj


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Hello James and the group!

Thanks for the reply. Unfortunately I can't copy your signal in the
moment, let's hope for the evening/night.

I'm using my shortwave-antenna, a 55m long endfed wire in about 12m
height as antenna for lf. it's connected to the unsymmetrical input of
the Selective Level Meter. I think using this antenna is the first
problem. Another one ist that I don't have a preamp yet. The 2nd antenna
is a resonant frame antenna with about 1m diameter. Unfortunately I
haven't managed to bring it outside somehow and so I'm using it in the
shack which gives me a lot of QRM, especially from the tube-monitor
(n*75Hz vert. frequenzy).

The Level Meter only has a 22Hz and a 3.1khz filter. I just can use the
3.1 filter which gaves me lot of QRM from DCF39. I have tuned to 137.15
becasue I found that this qrg is quiet (-107dbm) compared to some 100Hz
up and down where the noise level is up to -92dbm. I think this noise is
produced by the carrier of DCF39 somehow.

As you may have noticed, I'm a LF beginner and it seems I have to work
on the sensitivity of my equipment. I'm living 30km north of Vienna and
I think QRN and QRM is not so bad here.

Any suggestions welcome.

Thanks a lot
and 73 de OE3GHB

Gerhard Hickl



 


Am Sonntag, den 21.06.2009, 13:53 +0100 schrieb James Moritz:
> Dear Gerhard, LF Group,
> 
> I am currently (1242utc) transmitting a DFCW beacon signal on 137.680kHz, 
> with ERP of about 300mW. There is some QRN here, but band noise is not too 
> bad. QTH is just north of London at IO91vr. Previous experience indicates 
> you may see something in OE during daylight, but don't be suprised if you 
> have to wait until after dark to copy the signal. Any reports very welcome.
> 
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
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> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 12:12 PM
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> 
> 
> >
> > So if anybody is planning activity on 137 for today, please let me know.
> >
> > Tnx and 73
> >
> > de OE3GHB
> >
> > Gerhard
> >
> >
> > 
> 
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Hello Group!

@James: Thanks a lot. Built a L-filter and the sensitivity is now at
least 10db (maybe even more) better. -60dbm (instead of -50dbm) fed into
the same wire than before can now be seen clearly. I just had some
assembled ferrite rods for MW with coils less than 1mH and they didn't
work. Then I applied about 200 turns to a ferrite-rod and got a coil of
5,1 mH. With this coil and a 10-320pf capacitor, I was able to match the
impedance of the wire to the input of my RX. Thank you again for the
hint. The entire assembly is "bread-board style" for now with a lot of
"flying wires" and without any shielding.

@Heinz: Thanks a lot too. I have seen on the Internet, that OE5ODL is a
very active station on LF. I will get back to you for the schedule on
your personal address. 


For now, I'm waiting for James beacon which will hopefully appear on my
screen at 2000z.

Cheers and 73 de
OE3GHB

Gerhard Hickl




 



Am Sonntag, den 21.06.2009, 20:41 +0200 schrieb H Schnait:
> Hello Gerhard,
> 
> OE5ODL can put out a respectable signal whenever you want. I can help 
> set up a sked, if you reply to my email adress (just google my callsign).
> 
> 73 Heinz, OE5EEP
> 
> 
> Gerhard Hickl schrieb:
> > Hello James and the group!
> >
> > Thanks for the reply. Unfortunately I can't copy your signal in the
> > moment, let's hope for the evening/night.
> >
> > I'm using my shortwave-antenna, a 55m long endfed wire in about 12m
> > height as antenna for lf. it's connected to the unsymmetrical input of
> > the Selective Level Meter. I think using this antenna is the first
> > problem. Another one ist that I don't have a preamp yet. The 2nd antenna
> > is a resonant frame antenna with about 1m diameter. Unfortunately I
> > haven't managed to bring it outside somehow and so I'm using it in the
> > shack which gives me a lot of QRM, especially from the tube-monitor
> > (n*75Hz vert. frequenzy).
> >
> > The Level Meter only has a 22Hz and a 3.1khz filter. I just can use the
> > 3.1 filter which gaves me lot of QRM from DCF39. I have tuned to 137.15
> > becasue I found that this qrg is quiet (-107dbm) compared to some 100Hz
> > up and down where the noise level is up to -92dbm. I think this noise is
> > produced by the carrier of DCF39 somehow.
> >
> > As you may have noticed, I'm a LF beginner and it seems I have to work
> > on the sensitivity of my equipment. I'm living 30km north of Vienna and
> > I think QRN and QRM is not so bad here.
> >
> > Any suggestions welcome.
> >
> > Thanks a lot
> > and 73 de OE3GHB
> >
> > Gerhard Hickl
> >
> >   
> 
> 
> 



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Hi Jean-Pierre,
   Yes, and this winter I will try for another 3dB (8W ERP) if the
antenna can stand it!
--=20
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
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> Super ! We will have still time for play to jump the pond =A0!!!!! hi hi=
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> 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj
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> Warren Ziegler a =E9crit :
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>> The FCC has just renewed =A0WD2XGJ for another 5 years!
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I saw signal XGJ before sunrice in OK. Nice reception this morning.

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Hello LF,

 

sorry about the added old attachment within the first Mail-info..

 

73     Gerhard

 

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  _____  

Von: Beckmann, Gerhard [mailto:beckmann.erlangen@freenet.de] 
Gesendet: Samstag, 13. Juni 2009 23:09
An: 'rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org'
Cc: 'Chris Osborn'
Betreff: G3XIZ is calling CQ on 502.8

 

Hello Chris,  LF

 

Receiving your CQ-call in regular CW-Mode with about 449 here in JN59LN;

 

73     de Gerhard  // DK6NI

 

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Gerhard [mailto:beckmann.erlangen@freenet.de] <br>
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<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> 'Chris Osborn'<br>
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Ian,

  Ocean Gate is in New Jersey, not Cape Cod (which is in Massachusetts).

http://wikimapia.org/4673741/AT-T-High-Seas-Service-Radio-Station-Manahawkin-WOO

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On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 5:25 PM, Ian Marsh<i.marsh@virgin.net> wrote:
> During my sea-going days it was quite common for marine R/T stations to
> transmit a loop tape for a period when a ship called so that the ship's R/O
> could accurately tune his SSB receiver for link calls. The coast station
> operator would then call the ship and the link call or whatever could then
> be set up. Sydney/VIS used to come back with something like: 'This is the
> Eastern terminal of the Australian Overseas Telecommunications Commission".
> Not sure about White Plains though. The AT&T marine R/T station in that area
> was WOO at Ocean Gate which I think was somewhere near Cape Cod. Maybe White
> Plains was a point -to-point operation.
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Jim,

tonight my antenna is disconnected because of the thunder and  
lightning show above our heads.
I copied your beacon last night 529.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

Quoting James Moritz <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>:

> Dear LF Group,
>
> As art of continuing investigations into antennas, grounds, etc., I am
> running a beacon at the moment on 503.5kHz - I am testing a small "/P"
> antenna similar to what G3CWI proposed to use a couple of weeks back. It is
> a 9m high "umbrella" with 4 x 5m long top loading wires sloping at about
> 45degrees. Ground system is 4 x 20m radial wires.
>
> The beacon is transmitting an 8wpm CW identifier, followed by five 5 second
> dashes at reducing power levels in steps of 6dB. The maximum ERP is
> somewhere in the region of 100mW ERP. The sequence repeats every 2 mins
> roughly.
>
> I'll leave it running until after dark at least - any reports would be very
> welcome.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
>
>




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Hi James.
Once again a very interesting set of experiments,which does seem to support
my findings that the Mains/water pipes take most of the current,
making all the work on radials earth rods etc a bit of a waste of time.
However I must try resonating the radial system. Presumably I would need
to series resonate with a capacitor, value depending of course on my
particular system..... but did you say that the reactance was capacitive ?
Regards
73 Laurie

2009/6/2 James Moritz <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>

> Dear LF Group,
>
> Over the last few days I have been doing some experiments with ground
> systems with my LF/MF antenna. The purpose was partly to see whether it is
> possible to reduce the overall loss resistance significantly, but also to
> test out some convenient types of ground for antennas for portable
> operation, in particular radial wires. The antenna is currently a top-loaded
> vertical about 10m high, with about 80m in total of horizontal wires in a
> narrow, asymmetrical "Y" shape about 50m long, giving a capacitance at 136k
> of around 500pF, and around 580pF at at 500k due to the increased effect of
> the distributed inductance of the wires. As a reference, I used the normal
> ground system, consisting of 6 x 1m ground rods, distributed within a couple
> of metres of the base of the antenna tuners.
>
> The measuring technique was to initially set the normal series loading
> coils to resonance at 136kHz and 502khz with the normal ground system, and
> then measure the antenna resistance between the "cold" end of the loading
> coil and ground with an RF bridge. The total loss resistance of the antenna
> (including the loading coils and the normal ground system) was 57ohms at
> 136k and 24ohms at 502k. Then an alternative ground system was connected
> instead of the normal ground, the bridge re-tuned to measure the new
> resistance, and any change in reactance determined from the change in
> resonant frequency. The reactance measurement is only approximate, but good
> enough for these purposes. The bridge equipment was all battery operated,
> and sat on a wooden table, so had minimal effect on the impedance of the
> ground system. When I set up a similar antenna with similar ground rods in a
> field a while back, the loss resistance of the antenna was only about 8 ohms
> in total, so the component of the loss resistance due to the normal ground
> system is probably less than 8 ohms. The much higher total loss resistance
> is due mostly to the environmental factors affecting the antenna.
>
> I first tried combinations of insulated radial wires laid on the ground,
> including 4 x 20m radials, 4 x 40m radials and 8 x 20m radials. It did not
> seem to matter much how the radials were laid out, whether underneath the
> top load wires or in completely different directions. Some had bends or
> doubled back - there is not really room at my QTH for 40m radials! Some were
> laid on the grass, others along the concrete driveway that runs down one
> side of the plot. None of this made more than a few ohms difference to the
> loss resistance, provided the wires were reasonably well spaced apart.  All
> configurations had significant capacitive reactance compared to the normal
> ground rods:
>
> 4 x 20m radials, 136k: R = 80ohm , X = -j466ohms
> 4x 20m radials, 502k: R = 28ohm, X = -j113ohms
>
> 4x 40m radials, 136k: R = 66ohms,  X = -j248ohms
> 4 x 40m radials, 502k, R = 25ohms, X = -j61ohms
>
> 8 x 20m radials, 136k: R = 62ohms, X = -j283ohms
> 8 x 20m radials, 502k: R = 23ohms, X = -j76ohms
>
> So it would seem that having the total of 160m of wire as 8 shorter radials
> is slightly better than 4 longer ones as far a loss goes. I also tried
> elevating the radials above ground about 0.3m on lengths of cane:
>
> 8 x 20m radials, elevated, 136k: R = 80ohms, X = -j622ohms
> 8 x 20m radials, elevated, 502k: R = 23ohms, X = -j158ohms
>
> The loss resistance at 502kHz is slightly reduced, but the extra capacitive
> reactance is now getting very high, especially at 136k. I tried adding a
> "metallic" ground connection by adding a 200mm long steel tent peg to the
> end of each radial, and driving it into the ground:
>
> 8 x 20m radial + ground spike, 136k: R = 80ohms, X = 0
> 8 x 20m radial + ground spike, 502k: R = 69ohms, X = -j11ohms
>
> So this is effective at reducing the reactance, but does not help loss
> resistance; in fact, it leads to a drastic increase in loss at 502k.
>
> Instead of insulated radials, I tried a 15m x 0.6m strip of wire mesh (a
> roll of chicken wire that was lying around), held down flat on the grass
> with bricks:
>
> 15m x 0.6m wire mesh, 136k: R = 82ohms, X = -j102ohms
> 15m x 0.6m wire mesh, 502k: R = 31ohms, X = -j9ohms
>
> So in spite of  having a large area of metal in reasonable contact with the
> ground, there is still relatively high resistance, and some capacitive
> reactance. Since the insulated radials in general resulted in lower loss
> resistance, I tried insulating the wire mesh from the ground using polythene
> sheet:
>
> 15m x 0.6m wire mesh, insulated, 136k: R = 65ohms, X = -j320ohms
> 15m x 0.6m wire mesh, insulated, 502k: R = 26ohms, X = -j63ohms
>
> Since the wire mesh would be quite a convenient earth system to use for an
> antenna over a paved area, or on rocky ground, I tried laying it on the
> concrete driveway:
>
> 15m x 0.6m wire mesh, on concrete, 136k: R = 57 ohms, X = -j320ohms
> 15m x 0.6m wire mesh, on concrete, 502k: R = 23 ohms, X = -j65ohms
>
> The loss resistance is now as low as the normal ground rod system, although
> the reactance is higher.
>
> Looking at these results, the ground rods win for the fixed station
> antenna. The ground here is a permanently wet clay soil, which is probably
> quite good for ground rods. They give practically the lowest loss resistance
> (a couple of the other ground systems give a marginally lower loss
> resistance at 502k, but in practice the actual resonant frequency was
> increased due to the additional reactance, and the loss resistance of the
> antenna decreases at higher frequency). The reactance is also lower. Most of
> the alternative ground systems effectively behave as capacitive coupling to
> ground, with significant capacitive reactance as well as some additional
> loss resistance. For the fixed station, if the ground system has a high
> reactance, most of the ground current will flow through the lower impedance
> path via TX chassis/mains earth, instead of the ground system. This is
> possibly why adding ground radials to an existing system often has no
> effect. One way round this would be to have an auxilliary tuning inductor
> connected between the ATU ground, and the ground radial sytem. You could
> tune the inductor for maximum RF current in the radials, or minimum current
> via the TX ground.
>
> For portable antennas, it is often difficult to drive long ground rods into
> the earth. It seems that short ground spikes, like the tent pegs, or
> metallic conductors laid on the surface of the ground, do not make a very
> good ground connection. The insulated radial wire systems generally give the
> lower loss resistances for the antenna system, and are quite easy to set up.
> The effect of the unwanted ground system reactance for a portable station
> with no other earth connection is that the ground terminal of the ATU is not
> at ground potential, and so probably also the cases of all the station
> equipment. For 500kHz stations with fairly low power (say <1A antenna
> current or so), where reactance is quite low, this probably does not matter
> much so long as the equipment (and operator) are reasonably well insulated
> from ground. For a QRO 136kHz station, it is likely to be a different story
> - with 1kW I can get about 4A antenna current - if I was using the 8 x 20m
> radials, the 283ohms reactance would mean the equipment ground would have
> more than 1kV of RF relative to ground! The capacitance of the insulated
> radials works out very roughly to 28pF per metre of wire, and one wants to
> make the total capacitance large enough to keep the voltage down to a
> reasonable level. More and longer radials would clearly be desirable, which
> are not really feasible in my garden, but might be quite easy at a /P
> location.
>
> The insulated wire mesh ground required less area than the radial wires,
> and had low loss resistance with similar reactance, so could be quite
> promising, especially where the ground is already insulated; on concrete or
> tarmac for example.
>
> Hopefully some time this summer, I will be able to borrow a field again,
> and do some further experiments with more space available.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Hi James.<br>Once again a very interesting set of experiments,which does see=
m to support my findings that the Mains/water pipes take most of the current=
,<br>making all the work on radials earth rods etc a bit of a waste of time.=
 However I must try resonating the radial system. Presumably I would need<br=
>
to series resonate with a capacitor, value depending of course on my particu=
lar system..... but did you say that the reactance was capacitive ?<br>Regar=
ds <br>73 Laurie<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/6/2 James Moritz <sp=
an dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:james.moritz@btopenworld.com">james.mor=
itz@btopenworld.com</a>&gt;</span><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 2=
04, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Dear LF Group,<br>
<br>
Over the last few days I have been doing some experiments with ground system=
s with my LF/MF antenna. The purpose was partly to see whether it is possibl=
e to reduce the overall loss resistance significantly, but also to test out=20=
some convenient types of ground for antennas for portable operation, in part=
icular radial wires. The antenna is currently a top-loaded vertical about 10=
m high, with about 80m in total of horizontal wires in a narrow, asymmetrica=
l &quot;Y&quot; shape about 50m long, giving a capacitance at 136k of around=
 500pF, and around 580pF at at 500k due to the increased effect of the distr=
ibuted inductance of the wires. As a reference, I used the normal ground sys=
tem, consisting of 6 x 1m ground rods, distributed within a couple of metres=
 of the base of the antenna tuners.<br>

<br>
The measuring technique was to initially set the normal series loading coils=
 to resonance at 136kHz and 502khz with the normal ground system, and then m=
easure the antenna resistance between the &quot;cold&quot; end of the loadin=
g coil and ground with an RF bridge. The total loss resistance of the antenn=
a (including the loading coils and the normal ground system) was 57ohms at 1=
36k and 24ohms at 502k. Then an alternative ground system was connected inst=
ead of the normal ground, the bridge re-tuned to measure the new resistance,=
 and any change in reactance determined from the change in resonant frequenc=
y. The reactance measurement is only approximate, but good enough for these=20=
purposes. The bridge equipment was all battery operated, and sat on a wooden=
 table, so had minimal effect on the impedance of the ground system. When I=20=
set up a similar antenna with similar ground rods in a field a while back, t=
he loss resistance of the antenna was only about 8 ohms in total, so the com=
ponent of the loss resistance due to the normal ground system is probably le=
ss than 8 ohms. The much higher total loss resistance is due mostly to the e=
nvironmental factors affecting the antenna.<br>

<br>
I first tried combinations of insulated radial wires laid on the ground, inc=
luding 4 x 20m radials, 4 x 40m radials and 8 x 20m radials. It did not seem=
 to matter much how the radials were laid out, whether underneath the top lo=
ad wires or in completely different directions. Some had bends or doubled ba=
ck - there is not really room at my QTH for 40m radials! Some were laid on t=
he grass, others along the concrete driveway that runs down one side of the=20=
plot. None of this made more than a few ohms difference to the loss resistan=
ce, provided the wires were reasonably well spaced apart. =A0All configurati=
ons had significant capacitive reactance compared to the normal ground rods:=
<br>

<br>
4 x 20m radials, 136k: R =3D 80ohm , X =3D -j466ohms<br>
4x 20m radials, 502k: R =3D 28ohm, X =3D -j113ohms<br>
<br>
4x 40m radials, 136k: R =3D 66ohms, =A0X =3D -j248ohms<br>
4 x 40m radials, 502k, R =3D 25ohms, X =3D -j61ohms<br>
<br>
8 x 20m radials, 136k: R =3D 62ohms, X =3D -j283ohms<br>
8 x 20m radials, 502k: R =3D 23ohms, X =3D -j76ohms<br>
<br>
So it would seem that having the total of 160m of wire as 8 shorter radials=20=
is slightly better than 4 longer ones as far a loss goes. I also tried eleva=
ting the radials above ground about 0.3m on lengths of cane:<br>
<br>
8 x 20m radials, elevated, 136k: R =3D 80ohms, X =3D -j622ohms<br>
8 x 20m radials, elevated, 502k: R =3D 23ohms, X =3D -j158ohms<br>
<br>
The loss resistance at 502kHz is slightly reduced, but the extra capacitive=20=
reactance is now getting very high, especially at 136k. I tried adding a &qu=
ot;metallic&quot; ground connection by adding a 200mm long steel tent peg to=
 the end of each radial, and driving it into the ground:<br>

<br>
8 x 20m radial + ground spike, 136k: R =3D 80ohms, X =3D 0<br>
8 x 20m radial + ground spike, 502k: R =3D 69ohms, X =3D -j11ohms<br>
<br>
So this is effective at reducing the reactance, but does not help loss resis=
tance; in fact, it leads to a drastic increase in loss at 502k.<br>
<br>
Instead of insulated radials, I tried a 15m x 0.6m strip of wire mesh (a rol=
l of chicken wire that was lying around), held down flat on the grass with b=
ricks:<br>
<br>
15m x 0.6m wire mesh, 136k: R =3D 82ohms, X =3D -j102ohms<br>
15m x 0.6m wire mesh, 502k: R =3D 31ohms, X =3D -j9ohms<br>
<br>
So in spite of =A0having a large area of metal in reasonable contact with th=
e ground, there is still relatively high resistance, and some capacitive rea=
ctance. Since the insulated radials in general resulted in lower loss resist=
ance, I tried insulating the wire mesh from the ground using polythene sheet=
:<br>

<br>
15m x 0.6m wire mesh, insulated, 136k: R =3D 65ohms, X =3D -j320ohms<br>
15m x 0.6m wire mesh, insulated, 502k: R =3D 26ohms, X =3D -j63ohms<br>
<br>
Since the wire mesh would be quite a convenient earth system to use for an a=
ntenna over a paved area, or on rocky ground, I tried laying it on the concr=
ete driveway:<br>
<br>
15m x 0.6m wire mesh, on concrete, 136k: R =3D 57 ohms, X =3D -j320ohms<br>
15m x 0.6m wire mesh, on concrete, 502k: R =3D 23 ohms, X =3D -j65ohms<br>
<br>
The loss resistance is now as low as the normal ground rod system, although=20=
the reactance is higher.<br>
<br>
Looking at these results, the ground rods win for the fixed station antenna.=
 The ground here is a permanently wet clay soil, which is probably quite goo=
d for ground rods. They give practically the lowest loss resistance (a coupl=
e of the other ground systems give a marginally lower loss resistance at 502=
k, but in practice the actual resonant frequency was increased due to the ad=
ditional reactance, and the loss resistance of the antenna decreases at high=
er frequency). The reactance is also lower. Most of the alternative ground s=
ystems effectively behave as capacitive coupling to ground, with significant=
 capacitive reactance as well as some additional loss resistance. For the fi=
xed station, if the ground system has a high reactance, most of the ground c=
urrent will flow through the lower impedance path via TX chassis/mains earth=
, instead of the ground system. This is possibly why adding ground radials t=
o an existing system often has no effect. One way round this would be to hav=
e an auxilliary tuning inductor connected between the ATU ground, and the gr=
ound radial sytem. You could tune the inductor for maximum RF current in the=
 radials, or minimum current via the TX ground.<br>

<br>
For portable antennas, it is often difficult to drive long ground rods into=20=
the earth. It seems that short ground spikes, like the tent pegs, or metalli=
c conductors laid on the surface of the ground, do not make a very good grou=
nd connection. The insulated radial wire systems generally give the lower lo=
ss resistances for the antenna system, and are quite easy to set up. The eff=
ect of the unwanted ground system reactance for a portable station with no o=
ther earth connection is that the ground terminal of the ATU is not at groun=
d potential, and so probably also the cases of all the station equipment. Fo=
r 500kHz stations with fairly low power (say &lt;1A antenna current or so),=20=
where reactance is quite low, this probably does not matter much so long as=20=
the equipment (and operator) are reasonably well insulated from ground. For=20=
a QRO 136kHz station, it is likely to be a different story - with 1kW I can=20=
get about 4A antenna current - if I was using the 8 x 20m radials, the 283oh=
ms reactance would mean the equipment ground would have more than 1kV of RF=20=
relative to ground! The capacitance of the insulated radials works out very=20=
roughly to 28pF per metre of wire, and one wants to make the total capacitan=
ce large enough to keep the voltage down to a reasonable level. More and lon=
ger radials would clearly be desirable, which are not really feasible in my=20=
garden, but might be quite easy at a /P location.<br>

<br>
The insulated wire mesh ground required less area than the radial wires, and=
 had low loss resistance with similar reactance, so could be quite promising=
, especially where the ground is already insulated; on concrete or tarmac fo=
r example.<br>

<br>
Hopefully some time this summer, I will be able to borrow a field again, and=
 do some further experiments with more space available.<br>
<br>
Cheers, Jim Moritz<br>
73 de M0BMU<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div><br>

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From: "Markus Vester" <markusvester@aol.com>
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... nice again at noontime, this time using direct input to soundcard and SpecLab's multistrip display (bottom to top).

Regards, 
Markus

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From: "Markus Vester" <markusvester@aol.com>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 11:29 AM
Subject: LF: Re: SAQ


Good signal again from SAQ in Nuernberg around 09:00, using SPM-3 selective level meter. QRN is now starting to build up again.

73 and a nice weekend,
Markus

DF6NM in JN59NK




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Hi Richard,
I think the noise variation is very similar to that on 136k and relates to
the position of the the dawn/disk edge. In the morning as the dawn sweeps
west across Europe the night-time skywave delivery of all this noise (both
atmospheric and man-made) is wiped out by D-layer absorption. We in the UK
get no noise from the west as its is mainly water. (the condition is exactly
the opposite on the East coast of the States). There seems to be less
lightning over water too.

The catch is that just around dawn there is a very quite period....this is
very encouraging and many have tried to make good DX in that period
.....unsuccessfully. I believe that this period is dogged by intense
absorbtion because at dawn the D-layer is first illuminated from underneath
(NM6M Bob Brown QST about 1999) by solar rays that have grazed the ground
before impinging on the D-layer about 1000km W of the ground dawn line. Thus
in this quiet period there is just no propagation by skywave so that DX is
not possible. Quite often the best time has been just before (say 60 mins)
dawn (at mid path)before the absorption starts.. N<>S paths are more
seriously affected than E<>W paths.

Once the sun rises and the ionosphere is illuminated from above then normal
daytime skywave returns slowly with the best singnals around mid-day at
mid-path. 500k is complicate dby the possibility of two "reflection heights"
which give rise to the deep daytime fading not seen on 136kHz, though this
my only occur later in the day.

There are difference between 136 and 500k but I think the noise problem is
similar.

Best of luck
Alan G3NYK

----- Original Message -----
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> I wonder if anyone has attempted to plot the diurnal noise levels on
> 500kHz? I wonder if, for instance, very early on a Sunday morning is
> particularly quiet?
>
> 73
>
> Richard
> G3CWI
>
>



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Rik Strobbe wrote:

>
> When I model a 11m high and 22m long lazy-L antenna (using MMANA-GAL) 
> the modeling result seem to agree with theory: 0.027 Ohm at 137kHz and 
> 0.359 Ohm at 502kHz.
> But when I model a 10.5m high and 22m long loop, 0.5m above ground:
> - 0.0013 Ohm at 137kHz and 0.033 Ohm at 502kHz, a ratio of only 25 
> instead of the expected 180
> - very different from the theoretical values: 0.00007 Ohm at 137kHz 
> and 0.013 Ohm at 502kHz
> - modeling in free space at 502kHz confirms the theoretical 0.013 Ohm, 
> but at 137kHz even in free space it is 0.0012 Ohm. If the claim that 
> loop losses are not affected by the ground I would expect that the 
> radiation resistance is not affected either.
>
> I guess MMANA-GAL is not suited for modeling very small loops, is 
> there other software that can scope with this ?
> Before going into the effort of putting op the loop I would like to 
> have an idea of what to expect.
>
> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
>
>
Dear Rick, LF group,
years  before  reading your  present post  i  have found ,among others, 
your review article  concerning LF antennae
 (btw, it  was  , and still is, a wonderful piece of  useful work done 
upon this  subject)  In this article there was a formula
 giving  a theoretical estimate of  a radiation resistance of a small 
loop. the  term 'small'  will be considered later..
over the  past few years there were some (internet)  reports about poor 
performance about  mmana especially
 when the 'real ground' option has been  switched on.  your present post 
confirms  this issue but  which is more important
and brings  my attention is the ' free space' performance  in the case 
of low frequencies.
so i decided to check out the  'theory'  behind the  formula  of  
rad.res. of  small loops

from the very, very basic consideration of electromagnetic radiation   
one arrives with Johnson-Nyquist
formula concernig the noise of carriers in a resistive medium i,e 
"antenna'  which states that rad.res
 = Z(0)(2/3)pi(heff/lambda)^2 where Z(0) is an impedance of a free space 
(377ohm) but which can be alternatively presented
as 4pi10^-7 c where heff is an effective height of an antenna  and c 
,velocity of light  which  , due to the units is 3 times 10^8 m/s)
the so called 'effective height ' is a proprtionality factor between  
voltage induced in the antenna  due to the electric field .
In the case of a SMALL  loop ( constant current ) simple considerations 
due to the Farady law lead to its effective height as
2piA/lambda , A is  loop area  ( single turn loop , air ).   Simple math 
and we arrive to rad .res.as  320pi^4A^2/lambda^4
as it is in your review. Rick, i did this 'check' because :
a)  some aspects of my job are loosely connected with  electromagnetism
b)  i like this sort of  ' brain recreation'   - 'play' with formulas, hi
c) I  simply wanted to 'confirm'  this expression as being  derived from 
the 'principles' i.e maxwell equations etcc.. and , first of all
 what assumptions, simplifications were made in order to get this. it 
seems that  this expression is  strongly supported by 'principles'
and considerations are ok.  let us go back to mmana performance .. your 
mmana modelling  the loop at 502  kHz  in a free space
  is consistent with theoretical  estimate  while  137 kHz  case gives 
discrepancy.  Considering only the theoretical expression  of rad.res
it just should be the opposite !  the loop is 'smaller' at 137  or 
'bigger' at 502  in terms of a wavelength  :)
Therefore, it must be  some sort of   intrinsic error in mmana 
performance when going to lower frequencies  due rather
 to the method and not to the 'physics'  . mmana is based on  the 
"method of  moments"  and may be it is the segmentation  issue
 which comes into play in the case of lower frequencies - those DM1, DM2 
parameters etc..
I must admit i've never played with these parameters  - usually i  was  
opening one of the existing antennae files
 in the  samples  subdirectories and was using it as a starting point  
for  changing the geometries etc.. (but for HF so far..)

                                                  yours, peter, sq7mpj
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Hello Alan,

thanks for the info.
What I had in mind was a 501-504kHz filter so not=20
as narrow as the 800Hz filter you designed.
And as an input filter I wouldn't care about 10dB=20
(or even more) insertion loss as I always have a=20
20dB attenuator between antenna and RX.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

At 15:38 15/06/2009, you wrote:
>Hi Rick there is a problem building a sharp ladder filter with 500 or 455
>kHz resonators. I have played with a number. the difficulty seems to stem
>from the fact that to get a narow filter you have to design for a filter
>impedance of around 250 to 300ohms. then when you conside the ESR of the
>resonators of say 40 to 70 ohms and 5 in series you have a lot of loss
>through the filter. The best I managed at 455khz was about 800Hz pass band,
>but a lot of insertion loss. I think a more promising format is to use the
>resonators in shunt (parrallel resonance) with top coupling. I think the
>late Jan Noedling  LA2AK had some information on his web pages which I
>believe are still available. I have not tried that yet.
>
>Rapid Electronics does wire ended ceramic resonators for between 10p and 20=
p
>(exVAT)each in singles and discounts lots of 25  by a further 10% or more.
>No Min order but =A33 postage on oders less that =A330
>www.rapidonline.com
>Best Wishes
>Alan G3NYK
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Rik Strobbe" <rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
>To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 2:10 PM
>Subject: Re: LF: 500 kHz resonators at nedis.com
>
>
> > Pedro,
> >
> > I have a VXO with a 4MHz ceramic resonator. That signal is divided by
> > 8. Range is 500.5 - 506kHz.
> > see
> > http://wireless.org.uk/500k_tx.gif
> > http://wireless.org.uk/qtx.htm
> >
> > 4MHz cer. resonators are available at less than 1 Euro in almost
> > every electronic shop.
> >
> > 500kHz cer. resonators however could be interesting to build a sharp
> > RX-input filter (cfr xtal ladder filter)
> >
> > 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
> >
> >
> > At 14:50 15/06/2009, you wrote:
> > >Hello group,
> > >
> > >I just discovered that the European grossist for electronic parts has
> > >500 kc ceramic resonators in their range for less than half a Euro.
> > >this is a great building block for a tunable 500 kHz transmitter.  I
> > >ordered some for test purposes to see how far they can e pulled.
> > >Unfortunately they don't sell direct to customers, only to retailers.
> > >
> > >
> > >Pedro
> > >
> > >www.nedis.com
> >
> >


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Reasons several...
My beacon on 503.7kHz will be off for a few days.
Hope to put it back middle of next week.


Andy  G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com


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Dear All,
 
last nights "rough note" due to soon to blow (now blown) linear PSU for
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James Moritz wrote:
> Dear Tim, LF Group,
>
> I tried some expeiments with measuring loop antennas at LF and MF a 
> while back - changing the height above ground from 0 - 10m made 
> virtually no difference. The only thing that made a lot of difference 
> to signal levels is if the loop is very close to big metal objects, 
> but even then the difference is only minor unless the metal thing is 
> big compared to the loop, and within a loop diameter, say.
>
> I would agree with G3YXM about overloading - if you have an 
> oscilloscope, it is worth connecting it to the loop output to see if 
> any huge signals are present. I have used elliptic low pass filters 
> here to reduce the signal level from the local medium wave broadcast 
> stations to a reasonable level.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Trevor Smithers" 
> <tsmithers@cix.co.uk>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Cc: <tsmithers@cix.co.uk>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 11:40 AM
> Subject: Re: LF: Re Welbrook Loops
>
>
>> I use a 1530 as well, its mounted on a rotator about 2ft above ground 
>> level on a Barenco
>> socket/spike. Works well 80m down to 500khz but being so close to the 
>> ground its a bit deaf
>> above 80m as you would expect. My understanding is that for hf it 
>> should me mounted high up but
>> for lf its better low down near the ground.
>>
>> A rotator isn't really necessary as the beamwidth is quite broad but 
>> where I do find it useful is
>> nulling out the local qrm, switch modes etc.
>>
>
>
>
Thanks Jim for the info, I'll get myself a length of Fibreglass pipe and 
put it up over the roof, just got it hanging off the gutter at the 
moment, can hear loads on NDB's during the day, now to find out when the 
500kz activity is on.
I've checked the output on a scope and it looks reasonable

73
Tim


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Hello Richard, all,

I did some 500kHz tests last night with the Twente websdr:
- I cannot hear or see my own signal on the websdr (abt. 1W ERP, 
distance 200km)
- While I heard G3KEV 599+ here I could not hear or see on Mal on the 
websdr (distance G3KEV-me = 510km, distance G3KEV-Twente = 540km)
I guess a W3DZZ dipole is not the perfect antenna for 600m.

The above is not meant to criticize the WEBSDR project of the Twente 
university (all respect for this masterpiece), just to inform that 
one shouldn't panic it your 500kHz signal doesn't show up.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

At 22:29 18/06/2009, you wrote:
>Amazing!
>
>I heard a couple of NDBs, "LAA" and "LI". You can also see what frequencies
>the other users are using, which is interesting in a curious way!
>
>73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Richard Newstead
>Sent: 18 June 2009 10:09
>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>Subject: LF: webSDR
>
>
>Now covers LF/MF:
>
>http://websdr.ewi.utwente.nl:8901/
>
>73
>
>Richard
>G3CWI
DZZ  



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They used to announce that "this is a point-to-point and not a broadcast=
 service".  I believe they were connected with ATT.

John F5VLF

*********** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***********

On 27/06/2009 at 15:10 Warren Ziegler wrote:

>White plains is immediately North of New York City:
>
>http://maps.google.com/maps?q=3Dwhite+plains,ny&oe=3Dutf-8&rls=3Dorg.mozi=
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>On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 3:05 PM, mal hamilton<g3kevmal@talktalk.net> wrot=
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>> I remember a radio station on HF SSB years ago WHITE PLAINS. Where=A0is
>that
>> located, somewhere in the USA.
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>>





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Hi, Jim.

Nothing heard here yet...and no signals on the G3YXM grabber either, at the
moment.

I'll keep monitoring for a while.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor S E England.

-----Original Message-----
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 Sorry but I meant 502.5KHz

Sending CQ Test on 5 mins cycles

Thanx for any reports

Jim G7NKS

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Dear All,

G7NKS active on 503KHz at 21.20 BST/20.20 UTC  sending CW @ 5wpm   "CQ Test
de G7NKS"

Thanks for any reports


Jim



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Hello Niels and LF!

Congratulation, Niels!
Hope to make an x-band  with you next autumn!

73!
--
Roman RW3ADB.

* mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net> [Sat, 20 Jun 2009 19:15:54=20
+0100]:
> Hello Neils
> Nice to hear u on 500 and I am QRV every day. Let me know when u are=20
in
> QSO mode.
> mal/g3kev
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: niels rudberg j=C3=B8rgensen
>   To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>   Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 7:06 PM
>   Subject: LF: OZ now on 500 kHz
>
>
>   Hello LF-Group!
>   Less than a week ago I received an experimental permit
>   for 501-504 kHz and 20 W ERP.
>   Test transmissions this afternoon for field strength
>   measurements were received by Mal/G3KEV and John/
>   GM4SLV. Thanks were much to both of you for the
>   reports.
>   My TX power was 80 watts, the antenna current 2.5 A
>   and I estimate the ERP to be about 1.5 Watts.
>   Soon I will be in a qso mode and I look forward to
>   having some to-way CW-qso=C2=B4s.
>   73
>   Niels / OZ8NJ+



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LF,

SAQ was good copy at 1200 UTC also. The spacer between characters was
visible on Spectran. This time my RX was an ICOM IC-PCR1000 with a VLF
upconverter to 7.017 MHz

Short sound sample attached.

73 Dave G3WCB IO91RM



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Hello Dennis!
Thanks for interesting report. OK0EMW is just on air.

73!

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

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> Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 03:03:00 +0200
> From: Dennis.Hennig@gmx.de
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: LF: 600m reports 12.VI.- 13.VI.2009  at night
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> Hi!
> Following signals observed tonight 
> 12.VI.- 13.VI.2009 
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> QTH Berlin city JO62RM
> RX homemade simple superhet
> IF-bandwidth abt 150Hz
> ANT wireloop abt 15sqm, 
> 10m agl. in a linden tree
> "pointing Iceland" = NW/SE
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> 23:18Z - 00:27Z   OK0EMW  distance about 482km
> audible for an estimated one-third of the observing time
> RST peaking say 559 at max.
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> 00:28Z - 00:59Z   SK6RUD  distance about 538km
> The local carriers usually blocking 500.000kHz
> surprisingly weren't present this time.
> Signal audible for most of the 31min 
> observing time, RST peaking say 539 at max.
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> Thank You for providing the signals :)
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Hello Dennis!<br>Thanks for interesting report. OK0EMW is just on air.<br><br>73!<br><br>Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS<br><br>************************************<br><br>&gt; Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 03:03:00 +0200<br>&gt; From: Dennis.Hennig@gmx.de<br>&gt; To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<br>&gt; Subject: LF: 600m reports 12.VI.- 13.VI.2009  at night<br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; Hi!<br>&gt; Following signals observed tonight <br>&gt; 12.VI.- 13.VI.2009 <br>&gt; <br>&gt; -----------------------------------------------------------<br>&gt; QTH Berlin city JO62RM<br>&gt; RX homemade simple superhet<br>&gt; IF-bandwidth abt 150Hz<br>&gt; ANT wireloop abt 15sqm, <br>&gt; 10m agl. in a linden tree<br>&gt; "pointing Iceland" = NW/SE<br>&gt; --------------------------------------------------------------<br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; 23:18Z - 00:27Z   OK0EMW  distance about 482km<br>&gt; audible for an estimated one-third of the observing time<br>&gt; RST peaking say 559 at max.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; 00:28Z - 00:59Z   SK6RUD  distance about 538km<br>&gt; The local carriers usually blocking 500.000kHz<br>&gt; surprisingly weren't present this time.<br>&gt; Signal audible for most of the 31min <br>&gt; observing time, RST peaking say 539 at max.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; Thank You for providing the signals :)<br>&gt; <br>&gt; vy73<br>&gt; Dennis<br>&gt; DL6NVC<br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; -- <br>&gt; GRATIS fr alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT!<br>&gt; Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01<br>&gt; <br><br /><hr />Pedvete svj styl pomoc zobrazen obrzk v Messenger. Prohldnte si je vechny. <a href='http://download.live.com/messenger' target='_new'>Klikni zde!</a></body>
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  Thank you for the report.
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 Sorry but I meant 502.5KHz

Sending CQ Test on 5 mins cycles

Thanx for any reports

Jim G7NKS

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Dear All,

G7NKS active on 503KHz at 21.20 BST/20.20 UTC  sending CW @ 5wpm   "CQ Test
de G7NKS"

Thanks for any reports


Jim



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Dear LF Group,

SAQ was a strong signal here as usual, with a message comemorating award of 
a Nobel Prize to Marconi and Braun. Plenty of QRN though. I got out the 
"electromechanical RX" again, as the most appropriate means of reception ;-)

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU 



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Not relevant.  Most FET's are going QRT due to feedback issues in bad 
parallel circuits...

The _golden rule_ is to put SUFFICIENT series resistance in every gate 
separately, do NEVER put gates in parallel.

Some nice literature on this is the fantastic book on HF amplifier 
design by Helge Granberg from Motorola.

Pedro ON7WP-AA9HX
/Licensed transceiver doctor and radio guru/ :-)




mal hamilton schreef:
> Chris
> Use a separate pwr supply for the fan, not the same supply that runs 
> the FETS or driver ccts. This is what I do and never had a problem.
> mal/g3kev
>  
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     *From:* Chris Osborn <mailto:g3xiz@yahoo.co.uk>
>     *To:* LF Group <mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>     *Sent:* Saturday, June 20, 2009 7:34 AM
>     *Subject:* LF: 500 kHz - Fans
>
>     LF,
>     I've nearly completed my new PA for 500 kHz and have now managed to
>     stop destroying FET's.
>      
>     Unfortunately I have an unusual problem in that the heatsink
>     cooling fans
>     are going U/S.
>      
>     I have used 24 volts brushless PC-type fans and after a while they
>     either die completely or start to go backwards slowly. . .
>      
>     The fans may be slightly over-run but only by a volt or so and on
>     key-up
>     (unregulated supply) and are situated about 50 mm (2 inches) from
>     the heatsink.
>     I have rf decoupled them from the supply but maybe not well enough !
>      
>     Any suggestions in curing this problem would be most welcome.
>      
>     73 Chris G3XIZ
>      
>      
>      
>


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Not relevant.&nbsp; Most FET's are going QRT due to feedback issues in bad
parallel circuits...<br>
<br>
The <u>golden rule</u> is to put SUFFICIENT series resistance in every
gate separately, do NEVER put gates in parallel.<br>
<br>
Some nice literature on this is the fantastic book on HF amplifier
design by Helge Granberg from Motorola.<br>
<br>
Pedro ON7WP-AA9HX<br>
<i>Licensed transceiver doctor and radio guru</i> :-)<br>
<br>
<br>
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<br>
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  <div><font face="Arial" size="2">Use a separate pwr supply for the
fan, not the same supply that runs the FETS or driver ccts. This is
what I do and never had a problem.</font></div>
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    <a moz-do-not-send="true" title="g3xiz@yahoo.co.uk"   href="mailto:g3xiz@yahoo.co.uk">Chris Osborn</a> </div>
    <div   style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>To:</b>
    <a moz-do-not-send="true" title="rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org"   href="mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">LF Group</a> </div>
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LF: 500 kHz - Fans</div>
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    </div>
    <div   style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif;">
    <div>LF,</div>
    <div>I've nearly completed my new PA for 500 kHz and have now
managed to</div>
    <div>stop destroying FET's.</div>
    <div>&nbsp;</div>
    <div>Unfortunately I have an unusual problem in that the heatsink
cooling fans</div>
    <div>are going U/S.</div>
    <div>&nbsp;</div>
    <div>I have used 24 volts brushless PC-type fans and after a while
they</div>
    <div>either die completely or start to go backwards slowly. . .</div>
    <div>&nbsp;</div>
    <div>The fans may be slightly over-run but only by a volt or so and
on key-up </div>
    <div>(unregulated supply) and are situated about 50 mm (2 inches)
from the heatsink.</div>
    <div>I have rf decoupled them from the supply but&nbsp;maybe not well
enough !</div>
    <div>&nbsp;</div>
    <div>Any suggestions&nbsp;in curing this problem would be most welcome.</div>
    <div>&nbsp;</div>
    <div>73 Chris G3XIZ</div>
    <div>&nbsp;</div>
    <div>&nbsp;</div>
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Pedro, LF,

Seeing some weak traces on 503 kHz, it may be ON7WP ??

Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP


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Subject: LF: ON7WP now testing on 503,000 kHz

test signal on air

reports appreciated on 3737 kHz (actually 3739 due to QRM...)

starting CQ for normal CW QSO on 19:00 utc and later

from 01:00 UTC CQ in QRSS 10

Pedro and team...


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Dear Gerhard, LF Group,

I am currently (1242utc) transmitting a DFCW beacon signal on 137.680kHz, 
with ERP of about 300mW. There is some QRN here, but band noise is not too 
bad. QTH is just north of London at IO91vr. Previous experience indicates 
you may see something in OE during daylight, but don't be suprised if you 
have to wait until after dark to copy the signal. Any reports very welcome.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gerhard Hickl" <gerhard.hickl@aon.at>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
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>
> So if anybody is planning activity on 137 for today, please let me know.
>
> Tnx and 73
>
> de OE3GHB
>
> Gerhard
>
>
> 



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Hello Chris,  LF

 

Receiving your CQ-call in regular CW-Mode with about 449 here in JN59LN;

 

73     de Gerhard  // DK6NI

 

================================

 

 

  _____  

Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von Chris Osborn
Gesendet: Samstag, 18. April 2009 19:38
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Betreff: LF: GB4FPR 502.000 Cw test as of 1430 18/4

 

Hello Graham,

You were a solid  559 in Biggleswade, Beds.

73 
Chris G3XIZ
IO 92 UB

 

  _____  

From: Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Sent: Saturday, 18 April, 2009 18:21:36
Subject: Re: LF: GB4FPR 502.000 Cw test as of 1430 18/4 

Thanks to  Finbar  GI4DPE

For the  first qso out of  GB4FPR , 

Apologies to  other stations calling

 

Thanks for reports via email . 

 

G .. 

 

From: Graham <mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet..co.uk>  

Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 2:09 PM

To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org 

Subject: LF: GB4FPR 502.000 Cw test as of 1430 18/4 

 

All.

 

Equipment  sorted .. should be  testing live on air as of  approx  1430 

 

502.00  cw only

 

Tnx - G ..

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You were a solid&nbsp; 559 in Biggleswade, Beds.<br>
<br>
73 <br>
Chris G3XIZ<br>
IO 92 UB<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><font size=3D2 face=
=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bol=
d'>From:</span></font></b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Graham
&lt;g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk&gt;<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st=3D"o=
n">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Saturday, 18 April, 200=
9
18:21:36<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: LF: GB4FPR 502.0=
00 Cw
test as of 1430 18/4 </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'=
font-size: 12.0pt'>Thanks to&nbsp; Finbar&nbsp; GI4DPE<o:p></o:p></span></fo=
nt></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'=
font-size: 12.0pt'>For the&nbsp; first qso out of&nbsp; GB4FPR , <o:p></o:p>=
</span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'=
font-size: 12.0pt'>Apologies to&nbsp; other stations calling<o:p></o:p></spa=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'=
font-size: 12.0pt'>Thanks for reports via email . <o:p></o:p></span></font><=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:whitesmoke'><b><font size=3D2 face=
=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bol=
d'>From:</span></font></b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> <a href=3D"mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet..co.uk"=20=
target=3D"_blank" title=3D"g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk" ymailto=3D"mailto:g8fzk@=
g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk">Graham</a>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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d'>Sent:</span></font></b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Saturday,
April 18, 2009 2:09 PM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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d'>To:</span></font></b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-siz=
e:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> <a href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=
" target=3D"_blank" title=3D"rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" ymailto=3D"mailto=
:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a> <o:p></o:p><=
/span></font></p>

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=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bol=
d'>Subject:</span></font></b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'fon=
t-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> LF:
GB4FPR 502.000 Cw test as of 1430 18/4 <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'=
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 air as
of&nbsp; approx&nbsp; 1430 <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'=
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Hi,LF
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On 26 Jun 2009 at 10:34, Rik Strobbe wrote:

>  noticed it too.
> The picture (in jpeg format) is saved with an .html extension.
> It seems that only IE looks into the code and recognizes the jpeg 
> format, other browser don't check and just display it as text.
> 

What a silly thing to do..

If I save the source to my hard disk and change its extension to .jpeg 
then it does indeed open (in Irfanview in my case) and show a nice 
grabber picture.

But surely nobody would ever change it to a html file and upload as if 
it were a web page. You should make a proper html webpage and put a 
link to the .jpeg image in there. Very easy HTML.....

How ANY browser would expect to display an html file as a jpeg image is 
beyond belief. I never thought IE was THAT bad...

Opera (which of course also displays the garbage) says in its 'info' 
screen:

grabber.htmlURL of main page:
http://www.sm6bhz.com/grabber.html
Encoding (used by Opera): - not supplied - (windows-1252)
MIME type: text/html
Size of main page: 114,906 bytes
Number of inline elements: 1 (205 bytes)
Display mode: Quirks mode
Last modified: 26/06/2009 08:21:25
Downloaded: 26/06/2009 10:04:29

Correctly of course interpreting it as text/html...

73 Dave G3YMC

http://www.davesergeant.com



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 cheers Dave 


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Subject: LF: RE: G7NKS??

Dear Jim,

Visual trace with "Argo", but too weak to copy by ear. Screenshot attached.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor S E England.


-----Original Message-----
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Hi, Jim.

Nothing heard here yet...and no signals on the G3YXM grabber either, at the
moment.

I'll keep monitoring for a while.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor S E England.

-----Original Message-----
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 Sorry but I meant 502.5KHz

Sending CQ Test on 5 mins cycles

Thanx for any reports

Jim G7NKS

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Dear All,

G7NKS active on 503KHz at 21.20 BST/20.20 UTC  sending CW @ 5wpm   "CQ Test
de G7NKS"

Thanks for any reports


Jim



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Dear Chris, Laurie, Richard, LF Group,

Thanks for the replies. Re the comments:

G4OKW wrote:
>...The mesh might not be as good on a rocky hilltop. There is probably 
>conductive soil under only 10cm or so of concrete drive, whereas a mountain 
>may be insulating rock all the way down to Old Nick....

I agree - I don't think the wire mesh would neccessarily improve the ground 
losses, but compared to the radial wires it gives similar performance in a 
quite compact form, which could well be an advantage in itself.

>... Have you tried arrays of tent pegs?

No, I limited myself to one per radial. My thought was that for portable 
operation with a vertical antenna, it would probably be easier just to add 
some more radials, while for fixed station use full-length ground rods work 
better, and are probably less affected by the surface soil drying out. For 
the ground-loop type of antenna used for cave radio, I can see the array of 
tent pegs would be a good idea.

G3AQC wrote:
...> does seem to support my findings that the Mains/water pipes take most 
of the current,
making all the work on radials earth rods etc a bit of a waste of time...

The ground systems I tried are more-or-less insulated from the ground, so 
are coupled to the ground mainly by their capacitance, which has a 
relatively high reactance compared to their resistance. A ground rod on the 
end of a considerable length of wire probably has a substantial inductive 
reactance compared to its resistance, due to the inductance of the wire. 
Either way, even though they may have low resistance, the overall impedance 
of these grounds will be relatively high compared to a ground with a short 
connection to the return terminal of the TX or ATU, and so little current 
will flow in them.

>...I would need to series resonate with a capacitor, value depending of 
>course on my particular system..... but did you say that the reactance was 
>capacitive ?

The insulated radials, etc. have a capacitive reactance - the individual 
wires on the ground were roughly equivalent to 28pF/m. So these would 
require a tuning inductance to neutralise their reactance. For ground rods, 
or buried bare-wire radials, I expect the reactance would be more inductive, 
so a tuning capacitance would be required. Since we are talking about 
nanofarads of capacitance, or perhaps 10s of uH of inductance for the ground 
systems, the tuning components required would be fairly small 
inductance/large capacitance.

G3CWI wrote:
>...I am intrigued about loaded radials in that the loading is effectively 
>supplied by the inductor in the ATU circuit. There was no sign that such an 
>approach worked on my last trip but possibly the inductance was 
>insufficient...

The reactance of the radials adds to the total capacitive reactance of the 
antenna, so more inductance is needed to resonate the antenna. According to 
your previous mail, you had somewhere around 60m of radials, giving an 
additional reactance of roughly 200ohms on top of perhaps 900 ohms for the 
200ft long antenna. So the increase in overall tuning inductance required 
would have been quite large.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU





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Gus,

 

I use Google chrome & is the same as Dave & Rik reported.

 

My web designer gives the option to :-

 

"Save this format with a name chosen by WebPlus" which is html format

or

"Save to my chosen path and name"

 

I use the last one with jpeg format.

 

73

 

Gary - G4WGT

 

  _____  

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Sent: 26 June 2009 09:35
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Subject: Re: LF: Grabber

 

Dave, Gus,

I noticed it too.
The picture (in jpeg format) is saved with an .html extension.
It seems that only IE looks into the code and recognizes the jpeg format,
other browser don't check and just display it as text.

You can check it: 
- let Firefox (or any other browser) show the source code 
- save the source using the "save as"  option
- in "save as" select the "all files" (or "all extensions" ? .. sorry my OS
is Dutch, but it is the last option) option
- change the name into grabber.jpg
- browse to the file and double click on it, it should open as a jpeg in
your default viewer

73, Rik  ON7YD

At 09:35 26/06/2009, you wrote:



Gus

I just get a screen full of random characters in Firefox.
In Internet Explorer (which I don't use) it works OK.

Dave G3YXM

2009/6/25 Gus <begu@algonet.se>

Graham, after some test it will be permanent !!

 

Gus

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From: Graham <mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>  

To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org 

Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 12:45 AM

Subject: Re: LF: Grabber

Gus ...  is this permanent on line ?

 

I will add to the  grabbers page on uk500khz

 

tnx - Graham . 

From: Gus <mailto:begu@algonet.se>  

Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 11:07 PM

To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org 

Subject: LF: Grabber

Dear LF !

 

Just as info, i do some test with a new grabber.

It could be find on http://www.sm6bhz.com/grabber.html

 

73 de Gus

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ld'>Gus,<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

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ld'>I use
Google chrome &amp; is the same as Dave &amp; Rik reported.<o:p></o:p>=
</span></font></b></p>

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 style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue;font-weight:bo=
ld'>My web
designer gives the option to :-<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

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 style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue;font-weight:bo=
ld'>&#8220;Save
this format with a name chosen by WebPlus&#8221; which is html format<=
o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

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ld'>or<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

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ld'>&#8220;Save
to my chosen path and name&#8221;<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

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the last one with jpeg format.<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

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ld'>Gary &#8211;
G4WGT<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span lang=3DEN-U=
S style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:=
</span></font></b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span lang=3DEN-US styl=
e=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
owner-<st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</st1:Pe=
rsonName>
[mailto:owner-<st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=
</st1:PersonName>]
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Rik Strobb=
e<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 26 June 2009 09:3=
5<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:s=
t=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: LF: Grabbe=
r</span></font><span lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'>Dave, Gus,<br>
<br>
I noticed it too.<br>
The picture (in jpeg format) is saved with an .html extension.<br>
It seems that only IE looks into the code and recognizes the jpeg form=
at, other
browser don't check and just display it as text.<br>
<br>
You can check it: <br>
- let Firefox (or any other browser) show the source code <br>
- save the source using the &quot;save as&quot;&nbsp; option<br>
- in &quot;save as&quot; select the &quot;all files&quot; (or &quot;al=
l
extensions&quot; ? .. sorry my OS is Dutch, but it is the last option)=
 option<br>
- change the name into grabber.jpg<br>
- browse to the file and double click on it, it should open as a jpeg=
 in your
default viewer<br>
<br>
73, Rik&nbsp; ON7YD<br>
<br>
At 09:35 26/06/2009, you wrote:<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'>Gus<br>
<br>
I just get a screen full of random characters in Firefox.<br>
In Internet Explorer (which I don't use) it works OK.<br>
<br>
Dave G3YXM<br>
<br>
2009/6/25 Gus &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:begu@algonet.se">begu@algonet.se</=
a>&gt;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3 face=
=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Graham, after so=
me test
it will be permanent !!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3 face=
=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p=
></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D4 color=
=3D"#888888" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;=
color:#888888'>Gus</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3 face=
=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>----- Original=
 Message
----- <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3 face=
=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>From: <a href=3D=
"mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk">Graham</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font><=
/p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3 face=
=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>To: <a href=3D"m=
ailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a>=
 <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3 face=
=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Sent: Friday, Ju=
ne 26,
2009 12:45 AM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;=
margin-bottom: 12.0pt;margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times=
 New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Subject: Re: LF: Grabber<=
o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 face=
=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Gus ...&nbsp; is=
 this
permanent on line ?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3 face=
=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p=
></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 face=
=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>I will add to th=
e&nbsp;
grabbers page on uk500khz</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3 face=
=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p=
></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;=
margin-bottom: 12.0pt;margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 face=3D"Times=
 New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>tnx - Graham . </span></f=
ont><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3 face=
=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>From: <a href=3D=
"mailto:begu@algonet.se">Gus</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3 face=
=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Sent: Thursday,=
 June 25,
2009 11:07 PM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3 face=
=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>To: <a href=3D"m=
ailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a>=
 <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;=
margin-bottom: 12.0pt;margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times=
 New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Subject: LF: Grabber<o:p>=
</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3 face=
=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Dear LF !<o:p></=
o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3 face=
=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p=
></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3 face=
=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Just as info, i=
 do some
test with a new grabber.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3 face=
=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>It could be find=
 on <a href=3D"http://www.sm6bhz.com/grabber.html">http://www.sm6bhz.c=
om/grabber.html</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3 face=
=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p=
></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;=
margin-bottom: 12.0pt;margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times=
 New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>73 de Gus<o:p></o:p></spa=
n></font></p>

<div class=3DMsoNormal align=3Dcenter style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt;text=
-align:center'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'=
font-size:12.0pt'>

<hr size=3D2 width=3D"100%" align=3Dcenter>

</span></font></div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3 face=
=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p=
></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3 face=
=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>No virus found=
 in this
incoming message.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3 face=
=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Checked by AVG=
 - <a href=3D"http://www.avg.com">www.avg.com</a> <o:p></o:p></span></=
font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;=
margin-bottom: 12.0pt;margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times=
 New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Version: 8.5.339 / Virus=
 Database: 270.12.91/2201 -
Release Date: 06/25/09 06:22:00<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'><br>
<br>
<br>
-- <br>
G3YXM IO92BK <st1:City w:st=3D"on">Birmingham</st1:City> <st1:country-=
region w:st=3D"on"><st1:place w:st=3D"on">UK</st1:place></st1:country-=
region><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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Alan, LF,

You wrote - 
"Never put your email address on your web site in clickable form"

Yes, that is exactly what I did some while ago but since removed it but it
was too late :-(

Thanks for your comments.

Cheers,

Gary.



-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Alan Melia
Sent: 23 June 2009 20:06
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: Re: Off Topic - Spam mails.

I am afraid not Gary, I have been seeing these and getting non-delivery
notices for years. I stopped signing my messages with my address when I
realised it was being harvested. Anyone can "forge" an email address
unfortunately which is why BT-Yahoo insists on Authentication being switched
on. Never put your email address on your web site in clickable form...use an
image. I made this mistake when i fiirst put my web site up in 2002.

Cheers de Alan G3NYK


----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
To: "LF -RSGB LF Group" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 6:40 PM
Subject: LF: Off Topic - Spam mails.


> Hi All,
>
>
>
> This is a bit worrying, I am getting spam e-mails using my e-mail address
> (this one - g4wgt) as the source/return address. I have already had a post
> from some one in Germany querying the validity of the return mail address
so
> many others must be getting them also.
>
>
>
> Is there some way to resolve this issue, stop it happening or notify some
> authority or what-ever?
>
>
>
> 73,
>
>
>
> Gary - G4WGT - IO83QO.
>
>
>
>




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Back on 502.5 cq test de g7nks

Tx on a 2 min cycle

Jim G7NKS



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Dear All,

G7NKS active on 503KHz at 21.20 BST/20.20 UTC  sending CW @ 5wpm   "CQ Test
de G7NKS"

Thanks for any reports


Jim



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Thank's Andy

Its been a very interesting facility ,

May be one of the  EI stations could run in one of the  time slots over 
night to  give a east  west  plot ? ,

Tnx- Graham .

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>
> My beacon on 503.7kHz is back on.  04/19/34/49 minutes past the hour
> ~+25dBm EIRP.  Callsign, power steps, full power carrier 25 - 30
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> Andy
> www.g4jnt.com
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>



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Hello Nicolas,

Many thanks indeed.
This was just the information I was looking for.

73,
Roelof, pa0rdt



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Dear Alan

Many apologies for the mess up! It wasn't my intention to hijack and I just
didn't think.  

Sorry to the group for any confusion or hassles caused 


With best regards

Jim
 
Dr. James Cowburn
G7NKS
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Alan Melia
Sent: 05 June 2009 00:18
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Subject: Re: LF: G7NKS (was XGJ)

Jim Please DO NOT hi-jack a subject line by using the reply button to send a
new message. The result is a thread of messages that have nothing to do with
Warren WD2XGJ and I almost didnt read them.

Please start a new thread with the "Create Message" button. You will need to
remember to have the posting address in your address book. All you need to
do here is right click on the "TO" line on an incoming refelctor message and
accept "Add to address book".

The subject line is extremely useful for searching old mail and "hijacked
subjects" prevent its proper use.

Thanks
Alan G3NYK
----- Original Message -----
From: "James Cowburn" <james.cowburn@virgin.net>
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> Dear All,
>
> G7NKS active on 503KHz at 21.20 BST/20.20 UTC  sending CW @ 5wpm   "CQ
Test
> de G7NKS"
>
> Thanks for any reports
>
>
> Jim
>
>



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Hello Jim ,

James Moritz a =E9crit :
> Any reports very welcome,
Your signal is virtually identical to this after midday , the ratio sign=20
/ noise is around : 22 dB .
I cannot give absolute value because there is a ACG in the RX .

73 Jean-Pierre f1afj

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Back in 1997 we temporarily activated a 400 foot ex AM broadcast mast 
at Kumara on the West Coast of the South Island. With an SSB signal at 
around 100 watts PEP into the mast, we had good LF propagation (i.e. 
good reports) in  the westerly direction to Tasmania until quite late 
in the morning- circa 9.30 or so local NZ time, which would have 
corresponded  approximately to the onset of daylight over the complete 
path to VK7. The distance was roughly 2200km in a more or less 
northwest  direction from ZL.

We were working crossband, with VK7RO operating on 40 metres, so it 
was readily apparent that the LF signals on 182 kHz disappeared fairly 
quickly, having been pretty consistent up to that time, over a fully 
dark and then a partially dark path.   Signals were down an S point or 
so from the 'fully dark path' levels  which had been 5/9/9 on CW and 
5/9 on SSB, but were still quite impressive.

 I found this result somewhat surprising at the time and still do.

Would have been great to have that QTH set up as a permanent LF tx 
site, it was absolutely magnificent! They demoloshed the mast a few 
months later. I have a video of the mast coming down- spectacular to 
watch/hear, but also disappointing.

73
Dave, ZL3FJ


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Alan Melia" <alan.melia@btinternet.com>
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Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2009 10:48 PM
Subject: LF: Re: 500kHz Diurnal Noise Variation


> Hi Richard,
> I think the noise variation is very similar to that on 136k and 
> relates to
> the position of the the dawn/disk edge. In the morning as the dawn 
> sweeps
> west across Europe the night-time skywave delivery of all this noise 
> (both
> atmospheric and man-made) is wiped out by D-layer absorption. We in 
> the UK
> get no noise from the west as its is mainly water. (the condition is 
> exactly
> the opposite on the East coast of the States). There seems to be 
> less
> lightning over water too.
>
> The catch is that just around dawn there is a very quite 
> period....this is
> very encouraging and many have tried to make good DX in that period
> .....unsuccessfully. I believe that this period is dogged by intense
> absorbtion because at dawn the D-layer is first illuminated from 
> underneath
> (NM6M Bob Brown QST about 1999) by solar rays that have grazed the 
> ground
> before impinging on the D-layer about 1000km W of the ground dawn 
> line. Thus
> in this quiet period there is just no propagation by skywave so that 
> DX is
> not possible. Quite often the best time has been just before (say 60 
> mins)
> dawn (at mid path)before the absorption starts.. N<>S paths are more
> seriously affected than E<>W paths.
>
> Once the sun rises and the ionosphere is illuminated from above then 
> normal
> daytime skywave returns slowly with the best singnals around mid-day 
> at
> mid-path. 500k is complicate dby the possibility of two "reflection 
> heights"
> which give rise to the deep daytime fading not seen on 136kHz, 
> though this
> my only occur later in the day.
>
> There are difference between 136 and 500k but I think the noise 
> problem is
> similar.
>
> Best of luck
> Alan G3NYK
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Richard Newstead" <g3cwi@btconnect.com>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2009 9:39 AM
> Subject: LF: 500kHz Diurnal Noise Variation
>
>
>> I wonder if anyone has attempted to plot the diurnal noise levels 
>> on
>> 500kHz? I wonder if, for instance, very early on a Sunday morning 
>> is
>> particularly quiet?
>>
>> 73
>>
>> Richard
>> G3CWI
>>
>>
>
>


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Tnx Niels
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Hello Alberto,

it is just out of curiosity what can be heard by such a system (feed  
the antenna signal into an ADC and let some software do the rest).

On LF there is more that MW broadcast. Around 400kHz I could copy half  
a dozen NDB's, best "DX" was Berlin (DLS) at almost 450km.
Taking into account that most NDB's run an ERP that is not so much  
more that an amateur station it should have some perspective ...

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T


Quoting Alberto di Bene <dibene@usa.net>:

>> Just don't expect the same sensitivity from such a WEBSDR as from
>> some grabbers dedicated to 500kHz.
>>
>> 73, Rik  ON7YD
>
> Rik,
>
>    don't you have better ways to waste your time ???
>
> 73  Alberto  I2PHD
>
>
>
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Dear All,
 
Just firing up now. got delayed by XYL!
 
With best regards
 
Dr. James Cowburn

  _____  

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham
Sent: 06 June 2009 21:26
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: G7NKS on tonite 502.5


James,
 
Nothing  from the  speaker  at io83lk, I can see a trace at Birmingham >
http://www.wireless.org.uk/grab/  , which is 75 miles closer to  you  than
my qth 
 
I can see a trace using  spec-lab , but that is 100 Hz lower ...and very low
, looks like a cw signal , but only  just over the noise ...are you  'spot
on'  502.500 ? 
 
>From past qso's with  Chris, I think you  are just outside the ground wave
range , with  signals showing at Birmingham but  not 75 miles on, its a pity
John has 
closed his Shetland monitor, you may of  shown there 
 
73 Graham
G0NBD

From: James Cowburn <mailto:james.cowburn@virgin.net>  
Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2009 8:56 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org 
Subject: LF: G7NKS on tonite 502.5

Dear All,
 
G7NKS back on 502.5 tonight "CQ TEST de G7NKS" at 7wpm  
 
thanks for any reports
 
Jim
 


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<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D718340721-06062009><FONT face=3DAr=
ial  color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Just firing up now. got delayed by XYL!</FONT>=
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<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>With best regards</FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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=20
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] <B>On Behalf Of=20
</B>Graham<BR><B>Sent:</B> 06 June 2009 21:26<BR><B>To:</B>=20
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502.5<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>James,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Nothing&nbsp;&nbsp;from the&nbsp; speaker &=
nbsp;at=20
io83lk, I can see a trace at Birmingham &gt; <A  title=3D"http://www.wireles=
s.org.uk/grab/&#10;CTRL + Click to follow link"  href=3D"http://www.wireless=
.org.uk/grab/">http://www.wireless.org.uk/grab/</A>&nbsp;=20
, which is 75 miles closer to&nbsp; you&nbsp; than my qth </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I can see a trace using&nbsp; spec-lab , bu=
t that=20
is 100 Hz lower ...and very low , looks like a cw signal , but only&nbsp; ju=
st=20
over the noise ...are you&nbsp; 'spot on' &nbsp;502.500 ? </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>From past qso's with&nbsp; Chris, I think y=
ou&nbsp;=20
are just outside the ground wave range , with&nbsp; signals showing at=20
Birmingham but&nbsp; not 75 miles on, its a pity John has </FONT></DIV>
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p; shown=20
there </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>7</FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>3=20
Graham</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>G0NBD</FONT><BR></DIV>
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urn@virgin.net&#10;CTRL + Click to follow link"  href=3D"mailto:james.cowbur=
n@virgin.net">James Cowburn</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, June 06, 2009 8:56 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A  title=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org&#10;CTRL +=20=
Click to follow link"  href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_=
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</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> LF: G7NKS on tonite 502.5</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN class=3D906485219-06062009>Dear=20
All,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN  class=3D906485219-06062009></SPAN></=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN class=3D906485219-06062009>G7NKS back=
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tonight "CQ TEST de G7NKS" at 7wpm&nbsp; </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN  class=3D906485219-06062009></SPAN></=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN class=3D906485219-06062009>thanks for=
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reports</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN  class=3D906485219-06062009></SPAN></=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN  class=3D906485219-06062009>Jim</SPAN=
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That was one reason for the continuous transmission. The other end picked 
the most suitable frequency, then called and an exchange of traffic began.
White Plains and other similar stations listened on a number of spot 
frequencies for replies. No scanning in those days, just a bank of receivers 
one on each frequency.
mal/g3kev

----- Original Message ----- 
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Subject: Re: LF: WHITE PLAINS


> 1960.  One of the first receptions I heard was a transmission that kept
> repeating a message something like this:  This is a test transmission for
> circuit adjustment purposes.

Yes that was the only transmission I recall hearing from them.
It made me wonder why someone would put up a station just for 'circuit
adjustment purposes' and nothing else.
I wondered what kind of circuit would need such constant adjustment!
Looking back I suppose that they transmitted on several frequencies
simultaneously and the purpose of the constant transmissions was so
that the receiving stations could pick the best frequency for the
conditions.

-- 
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
                WE2XEB/2
                WE2XGR/1




On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Dexter McIntyre W4DEX<dmcintyre@att.net> 
wrote:
> My first short wave receiver was a Knight Kit Star Roamer I built around
> 1960. One of the first receptions I heard was a transmission that kept
> repeating a message something like this: This is a test transmission for
> circuit adjustment purposes. This transmission originated form an office 
> of
> the American Telephone and Telegraph Company and is located near White
> Plains New York. I received this signal from time to time for many years 
> on
> several different frequencies. Many years later while reminiscing about 
> our
> past radio experiences with a retired AT&T engineer I asked him about the
> test transmission. He recalled hearing the same signals which he believed
> was for the HF High Seas Radiotelephone Service. I've never found any
> information about a White Plains site but there is some documentation 
> online
> about several other AT&T High Seas HF Radio locations.
>
> Dex
>
> mal hamilton wrote:
>>
>> I remember a radio station on HF SSB years ago WHITE PLAINS. Where is 
>> that
>> located, somewhere in the USA.
>> De mal/g3kev
>>
>
>
>



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Jim,

I can hear the first 4 signal levels consistently. On 100mW I would say you
are peaking about RST 5 7 9 .

Chris, G3XVL
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RX Icom 706
 Ant:inverted L at 10 mtrs.


2009/6/9 James Moritz <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>

> Dear LF Group,
>
> As art of continuing investigations into antennas, grounds, etc., I am
> running a beacon at the moment on 503.5kHz - I am testing a small "/P"
> antenna similar to what G3CWI proposed to use a couple of weeks back. It is
> a 9m high "umbrella" with 4 x 5m long top loading wires sloping at about
> 45degrees. Ground system is 4 x 20m radial wires.
>
> The beacon is transmitting an 8wpm CW identifier, followed by five 5 second
> dashes at reducing power levels in steps of 6dB. The maximum ERP is
> somewhere in the region of 100mW ERP. The sequence repeats every 2 mins
> roughly.
>
> I'll leave it running until after dark at least - any reports would be very
> welcome.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
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Jim,<br><br>I can hear the first 4 signal levels consistently. On 100mW I wo=
uld say you are peaking about RST 5 7 9 .<br><br>Chris, G3XVL<br>Ipswich, Su=
ffolk (JO02NB)<br><br>RX Icom 706<br>=A0Ant:inverted L at 10 mtrs.<br><br>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/6/9 James Moritz <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<=
a href=3D"mailto:james.moritz@btopenworld.com">james.moritz@btopenworld.com<=
/a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1p=
x solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Dear LF Group,<br>
<br>
As art of continuing investigations into antennas, grounds, etc., I am runni=
ng a beacon at the moment on 503.5kHz - I am testing a small &quot;/P&quot;=20=
antenna similar to what G3CWI proposed to use a couple of weeks back. It is=20=
a 9m high &quot;umbrella&quot; with 4 x 5m long top loading wires sloping at=
 about 45degrees. Ground system is 4 x 20m radial wires.<br>

<br>
The beacon is transmitting an 8wpm CW identifier, followed by five 5 second=20=
dashes at reducing power levels in steps of 6dB. The maximum ERP is somewher=
e in the region of 100mW ERP. The sequence repeats every 2 mins roughly.<br>

<br>
I&#39;ll leave it running until after dark at least - any reports would be v=
ery welcome.<br>
<br>
Cheers, Jim Moritz<br>
73 de M0BMU <br>
<br>
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Am I the only person that can hear OZ8NJ on the 500 Khz band. ? a nice signa=
l for a CW QSO. Pse QSO mode om
de g3kev

  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Good signal on 500 Khz band on CW beacon. Pse QSO mode
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James Moritz wrote:
> Dear Dave, Ken, Dave, Rik, Pete, LF Group,
>
> Thanks for the reports on the beacon signal. If nothing else, it is at 
> least a viable 500kHz TX antenna - as well as the reports, it is 
> showing up reasonably well on the G3YXM and G4WGT grabbers. I have now 
> closed down at 2206utc.
>
>
Hi Jim

I was out so I missed the tests last night. What ATU configuration did 
you use? My system is just awaiting a suitable day for initial tests.

73

Richard
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Dear Niels and group!

This evening me and OZ8NJ have a CW QSO, QRG 502,55 kHz.
Strong signal from OZ8NJ !
Well done and thanks QSO Niels!

73 de Gus SM6BHZ

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Jim,

I heard Chris working you, but nothing at all from you (not even =20
traces on the Argo screen).
Chris was 559 here, so your ERP must have been at least 15dB below =20
that of G3XIZ.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T


Quoting James Cowburn <james.cowburn@virgin.net>:

> Hi Jim
>
> Many thnx. Was in Qso with Chris G3Xix. Not long range as he is also in
> Biggleswade. 1st 600m Qso so dead chuffed!
>
> Just need to study up on antennas and matching so as to get more in the
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> Jim G7NKS
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of James Moritz
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> Dear Jim,
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> Just audible here, about RST 229 at about 2050utc on 502.65kHz.
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> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
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>> Dear All,
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>> G7NKS active on 503KHz at 21.20 BST/20.20 UTC  sending CW @ 5wpm   "CQ
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Dear Gerhard, LF Group,

Sorry you have had no luck so far - I'm sure improvements will be possible. 
I will leave the beacon running a little longer - I have QSY'ed to 
137.690kHz so you can see how the signal appears on DF6NM's 137kHz grabber 
at http://freenet-homepage.de/df6nm/Grabber.htm (Markus seems to have had 
the same idea ;-)). As you can see, there is a lot of QRN, but the signal is 
reasonably strong in JN59.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU 



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Hi James, Hello group!

Thanks a lot for your efforts, but still no copy here. I watched out for
the beacon until now but I have a lot of QRN/M. Something is basically
wrong with my RX-design and I have to think about that. As I wrote in my
last mail, the L-filter improved things but it still seems to be not
enough. I have to think about getting rid of QRM/N by better shielding.
I think most of the noise is generated nearby.

My efforts on receiving your signal are very simple and "primitive" but
thats what is is about! Isn't it?

Cheers and gn

de OE3GHB

Gerhard





Am Sonntag, den 21.06.2009, 21:07 +0100 schrieb James Moritz:
> Dear Gerhard, LF Group,
> 
> The beacon is now running again at 2000utc, as before in DFCW mode centered 
> on 137.680kHz. I will leave it running for a few hours at least. It is still 
> quite light here, so I expect signal levels will increase over time. As 
> expected, QRN has increased, too...
> 
> Any reports very welcome,
> 
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
> 
> 
> 



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Hello Marcin, LF!
Thanks for your receiving report. Your comparison of beacon signals is inter=
esting. My beacon still using 1W ERP.=20

73

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

***********************

> From: bxi@go2.pl
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 01:00:09 +0200
> Subject: LF: MF: beacon reports
>=20
> Hello!
> Very good copy today MF beacons (23:00 UTC):
> 500kHz SK6RUD 569
> 505,5kHz  SM6BHZ 579/57
> 505,180kHz DI2AM 549
> 505,060kHz OK0EMW 539
> --
> Vy 73!
> Marcin SQ2BXI
> QTH: big city Gda=F1sk, JO94GJ
> RX: IC-746
> Antenna: HF long windom 83m, max hight 20m
>=20
>=20

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acon signals is interesting. My beacon still using 1W ERP. <br><br>73<br><br=
>Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS<br><br>***********************<br><br>&gt; From: bxi@=
go2.pl<br>&gt; To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<br>&gt; Date: Wed, 3 Jun 200=
9 01:00:09 +0200<br>&gt; Subject: LF: MF: beacon reports<br>&gt; <br>&gt; He=
llo!<br>&gt; Very good copy today MF beacons (23:00 UTC):<br>&gt; 500kHz SK6=
RUD 569<br>&gt; 505,5kHz  SM6BHZ 579/57<br>&gt; 505,180kHz DI2AM 549<br>&gt;=
 505,060kHz OK0EMW 539<br>&gt; --<br>&gt; Vy 73!<br>&gt; Marcin SQ2BXI<br>&g=
t; QTH: big city Gda=F1sk, JO94GJ<br>&gt; RX: IC-746<br>&gt; Antenna: HF lon=
g windom 83m, max hight 20m<br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br><br /><hr />Bu=EFte v konta=
ktu se sv=FDmi p=F8=E1teli z Facebooku a Hotmailu <a href=3D'http://profile.=
live.com/connect/?mkt=3Dcz-cz' target=3D'_new'>Klikni zde!</a></body>
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Dear Gus, LF Group,

Just heard SM6BHZ calling CQ on 503.0kHz at around 2208utc, RST 569, so 
guess licence conditions have changed in SM... unfortunately, not really in 
a position to reply here at the moment, due to antenna experiments.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
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Warren
Move to the UK the WX recently has been fb and OFCOM is user friendly 
regarding licences for LF and MF.
De mal/g3kev

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Warren Ziegler" <wd2xgj@gmail.com>
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Graham, Lubos,

    Thank you for the comments, I'm not sure if sunspots are a good
thing at LF - might cause more geomagnetic disturbances which could
hurt propagation.
    The weather has been very bad here, storms, rain, humidity and no 
sunshine!
    Not good for operating.

-- 
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
                WE2XEB/2
                WE2XGR/1



2009/6/25 Lubos OK2BVG <bvgbob@hotmail.com>:
> Hello Warren, LF!
> That is FB news, thank you for it! I will apply for a new permission last
> month. I hope, that all will be OK. OK0EMW is on the air every night. But 
> it
> depens on the weather, of course.
>
> 73!
>
> Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS
>
> ************************************************
>
>> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 13:53:29 -0400
>> From: wd2xgj@gmail.com
>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; lowfer@mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: LF: WD2XGJ
>>
>> The FCC has just renewed WD2XGJ for another 5 years!
>>
>> 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ
>>
>
> ________________________________
> Bute v kontaktu se svmi pteli z Facebooku a Hotmailu Klikni zde!



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Dear Pedro, LF Group,

You are currently peaking about 549, with the usual deep QSB. QTH is 
Hatfield, 25km north of London, Loc IO91VR.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU

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Hi Jean-Pierre,

  Yes a short test (3 minutes!). Nothing escapes you!
The weather has been very stormy for many days so it has not been good
to operate.
--=20
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
                WE2XEB/2
                WE2XGR/1


On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 3:18 AM, "Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9
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> Hi Warren , LF ,
>
> Just a short test at 01:35 ! =A0( but I saw it ! hi hi ...... =A0)
>
> 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj
>

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Hello all,

Excellent copy in a 500 Hz bandwidth this morning in the Netherlands.
The signal was - 90 dBm, with the bandnoise around - 105 dBm.

Receiver: PERSEUS SDR
Antenna : mini-whip

Best regards,
Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt

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Hello group,

I just discovered that the European grossist for electronic parts has 
500 kc ceramic resonators in their range for less than half a Euro.  
this is a great building block for a tunable 500 kHz transmitter.  I 
ordered some for test purposes to see how far they can e pulled.
Unfortunately they don't sell direct to customers, only to retailers.


Pedro

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Incidentially I saw 500kHz resonators  
at Conrad.de for 0,61EUR each and
Reichelt.de for 0,28EUR.

vy73
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Now Now Alberto dont encourage him. I am sure Andy has enough bad habits
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> Andy Talbot wrote:
> >
> > The prog is first attempt at C programming, and going from fervently
> > disliking the language a few days ago (so totally unlike Basic !),  I've
> > now come round to actually quite liking it!
>
> A new convert ! Welcome ! Next step is C++....  :-)
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> 73  Alberto  I2PHD
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Hello LFers!

More modest report from my side:
http://qrss.nm.ru/27jun2009_505/503.99_3_00010.jpg
http://qrss.nm.ru/27jun2009_505/503.99_3_00019.jpg

* Andrey rn3agc <rn3agc@mail.ru> [Sat, 27 Jun 2009 14:54:45 +0400]:
> Hi Lubos, Joerg, LF,
> capture last night..
> DI2AM ~ 22.10z http://rn3agc.msk.ru/am.jpg
> OK0EMW ~ 22.10z http://rn3agc.msk.ru/emw.jpg
> SK6RUD ~ 22.55z http://rn3agc.msk.ru/rud.jpg
>
> 73
>

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Hello Andrey!

Thanks for receiving informations! They are very useful.

 

73!

 

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

 

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> From: rn3agc@mail.ru
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 14:54:45 +0400
> Subject: LF: LF: reports [500khz]
> 
> Hi Lubos, Joerg, LF,
> capture last night..
> DI2AM ~ 22.10z http://rn3agc.msk.ru/am.jpg
> OK0EMW ~ 22.10z http://rn3agc.msk.ru/emw.jpg
> SK6RUD ~ 22.55z http://rn3agc.msk.ru/rud.jpg
> 
> 73
> 

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<br><br>&gt; From: rn3agc@mail.ru<br>&gt; To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<br>&gt; Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 14:54:45 +0400<br>&gt; Subject: LF: LF: reports [500khz]<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Hi Lubos, Joerg, LF,<br>&gt; capture last night..<br>&gt; DI2AM ~ 22.10z http://rn3agc.msk.ru/am.jpg<br>&gt; OK0EMW ~ 22.10z http://rn3agc.msk.ru/emw.jpg<br>&gt; SK6RUD ~ 22.55z http://rn3agc.msk.ru/rud.jpg<br>&gt; <br>&gt; 73<br>&gt; <br><br /><hr />Pethnte si fotografie pmo do chatu v Messenger. Jak se do dl. <a href='http://download.live.com/messenger' target='_new'>Klikni zde!</a></body>
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Hi Rick there is a problem building a sharp ladder filter with 500 or 455
kHz resonators. I have played with a number. the difficulty seems to stem
from the fact that to get a narow filter you have to design for a filter
impedance of around 250 to 300ohms. then when you conside the ESR of the
resonators of say 40 to 70 ohms and 5 in series you have a lot of loss
through the filter. The best I managed at 455khz was about 800Hz pass band,
but a lot of insertion loss. I think a more promising format is to use the
resonators in shunt (parrallel resonance) with top coupling. I think the
late Jan Noedling  LA2AK had some information on his web pages which I
believe are still available. I have not tried that yet.

Rapid Electronics does wire ended ceramic resonators for between 10p and 20p
(exVAT)each in singles and discounts lots of 25  by a further 10% or more.
No Min order but 3 postage on oders less that 30
www.rapidonline.com
Best Wishes
Alan G3NYK


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> Pedro,
>
> I have a VXO with a 4MHz ceramic resonator. That signal is divided by
> 8. Range is 500.5 - 506kHz.
> see
> http://wireless.org.uk/500k_tx.gif
> http://wireless.org.uk/qtx.htm
>
> 4MHz cer. resonators are available at less than 1 Euro in almost
> every electronic shop.
>
> 500kHz cer. resonators however could be interesting to build a sharp
> RX-input filter (cfr xtal ladder filter)
>
> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
>
>
> At 14:50 15/06/2009, you wrote:
> >Hello group,
> >
> >I just discovered that the European grossist for electronic parts has
> >500 kc ceramic resonators in their range for less than half a Euro.
> >this is a great building block for a tunable 500 kHz transmitter.  I
> >ordered some for test purposes to see how far they can e pulled.
> >Unfortunately they don't sell direct to customers, only to retailers.
> >
> >
> >Pedro
> >
> >www.nedis.com
>
>



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LF,
I've nearly completed my new PA for 500 kHz and have now managed to
stop destroying FET's.

Unfortunately I have an unusual problem in that the heatsink cooling fans
are going U/S.

I have used 24 volts brushless PC-type fans and after a while they
either die completely or start to go backwards slowly. . .

The fans may be slightly over-run but only by a volt or so and on key-up=20
(unregulated supply) and are situated about 50 mm (2 inches) from the heatsi=
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I have rf decoupled them from the supply but=A0maybe not well enough !

Any suggestions=A0in curing this problem would be most welcome.

73 Chris G3XIZ


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<DIV>I have rf decoupled them from the supply but&nbsp;maybe not well enough=
 !</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Any suggestions&nbsp;in curing this problem would be most welcome.</DIV=
>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>73 Chris G3XIZ</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></div><br>



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Dear Pedro, LF Group,

Was not at home last night, but will be around tonight and tomorrow night - 
I now have my normal 500kHz antenna back in place, so should be a reasonable 
signal.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU

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Hi Henny , very good capture ! thank you
 73 J-P f1afj

henny van elst a =E9crit :
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> strong signal AFJ
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Hello Warren, LF!
I saw XGJ signal this morning. Thanks for your transmitting, receiving was v=
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Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

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Hello Marcin!
There were some storms here as well. Thanks for reception report!

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

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> From: bxi@go2.pl
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> Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 01:49:36 +0200
> Subject: LF: 500kHz beacon reports
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> Dear All,
> More QRN and QSB today...
> Copy only QRSS beacon:  DI2AM OK0EMW.
> SK6RUD normal CW - 337
> SM6BHZ -  nil
> --
> Vy 73!
> Marcin SQ2BXI

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Hello Marcin!<br>There were some storms here as well. Thanks for reception report!<br><br>Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS<br><br>*********************<br><br>&gt; From: bxi@go2.pl<br>&gt; To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<br>&gt; Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 01:49:36 +0200<br>&gt; Subject: LF: 500kHz beacon reports<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Dear All,<br>&gt; More QRN and QSB today...<br>&gt; Copy only QRSS beacon:  DI2AM OK0EMW.<br>&gt; SK6RUD normal CW - 337<br>&gt; SM6BHZ -  nil<br>&gt; --<br>&gt; Vy 73!<br>&gt; Marcin SQ2BXI<br><br /><hr />Pethnte si fotografie pmo do chatu v Messenger. Jak se do dl. <a href='http://download.live.com/messenger' target='_new'>Klikni zde!</a></body>
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James Moritz wrote:
>
> Over the last few days I have been doing some experiments with ground 
> systems with my LF/MF antenna.
>
>
Jim

Thank you for your detailed and well thought out review of earthing - 
the experimental results were especially interesting. I am intrigued 
about loaded radials in that the loading is effectively supplied by the 
inductor in the ATU circuit. There was no sign that such an approach 
worked on my last trip but possibly the inductance was insufficient. I 
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Hi Lubos! 

Thanks for replying and for providing the signal :)
Tonight beetween coming home and bedtime I tuned the RX to Your OK0EMW beacon as well:


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QTH Berlin city JO62RM
RX homemade simple superhet
IF-bandwidth abt 150Hz
ANT wireloop abt 15sqm, 
10m agl. in a linden tree
"pointing Iceland" = NW/SE
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OK0EMW observed 13.VI.2009 from 21:16Z - 22:36Z
At the beginning of the 80min period rather a grass roots signal, disappearing in the noise, sometimes up RST 339.
At the end of the observing time mostly a solid signal, RST say 559.

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Hello Rik,

Copied your CQ_Call in regular CW-Mode on 502,4 kc with about 449 in JN59LN

vy 73 de Gerhard  //  DK6NI

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Hi Jim G7NKS
=A0
Nothing heard 22:15-22:30.=A0in =A0IO91UX
=A0
Other Jim
=A0
M0BMU very strong here sending test, callsign and locator plus CW carrier le=
vels.
=A0
73 =A0Petefmt

--- On Tue, 9/6/09, James Cowburn <james.cowburn@virgin.net> wrote:


From: James Cowburn <james.cowburn@virgin.net>
Subject: LF: G7NKS on 502.10
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Tuesday, 9 June, 2009, 10:14 PM



Dear All,
=A0
last nights "rough note" due to soon to blow (now blown) linear PSU for Icom=
! new PSU in situ and up and running. TX on 502.5 "CQ test de G7NKS"=20
=A0
Thanks for any reports
=A0
Jim G7NKS (learning lots!)
=A0

__________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature=20=
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<table cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" border=3D"0" ><tr><td valign=3D"t=
op" style=3D"font: inherit;"><DIV>Hi Jim G7NKS</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Nothing heard 22:15-22:30.&nbsp;in &nbsp;IO91UX</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Other Jim</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>M0BMU very strong here sending test, callsign and locator plus CW carri=
er levels.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>73 &nbsp;Petefmt<BR><BR>--- On <B>Tue, 9/6/09, James Cowburn <I>&lt;jam=
es.cowburn@virgin.net&gt;</I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5p=
x; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><BR>From: James Cowburn &lt;james.cowburn@virgin.net&gt=
;<BR>Subject: LF: G7NKS on 502.10<BR>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR>Dat=
e: Tuesday, 9 June, 2009, 10:14 PM<BR><BR>
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D203364220-09062009><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Dear All,<=
/FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D203364220-09062009><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT></S=
PAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D203364220-09062009><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>last night=
s "rough note" due to soon to blow (now blown) linear PSU for Icom! new PSU=20=
in situ and up and running. TX on 502.5 "CQ test de G7NKS" </FONT></SPAN></D=
IV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D203364220-09062009><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT></S=
PAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D203364220-09062009><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Thanks for=
 any reports</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D203364220-09062009><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT></S=
PAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D203364220-09062009><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Jim G7NKS=20=
(learning lots!)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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Rik Strobbe wrote:
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> it is just out of curiosity what can be heard by such a system (feed  
> the antenna signal into an ADC and let some software do the rest).

Rik,

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Dear all,

Thanks for any info.=20
It seems that the grabber 2 and grabber 136 kHz appear in the same way=
, only works in IE.=20
I shut down all three grabbers until I found a solution.=20

73 de Gus SM6BHZ
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Rik Strobbe=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 10:34 AM
  Subject: Re: LF: Grabber


  Dave, Gus,

  I noticed it too.
  The picture (in jpeg format) is saved with an .html extension.
  It seems that only IE looks into the code and recognizes the jpeg fo=
rmat, other browser don't check and just display it as text.

  You can check it:=20
  - let Firefox (or any other browser) show the source code=20
  - save the source using the "save as"  option
  - in "save as" select the "all files" (or "all extensions" ? .. sorr=
y my OS is Dutch, but it is the last option) option
  - change the name into grabber.jpg
  - browse to the file and double click on it, it should open as a jpe=
g in your default viewer

  73, Rik  ON7YD

  At 09:35 26/06/2009, you wrote:

    Gus

    I just get a screen full of random characters in Firefox.
    In Internet Explorer (which I don't use) it works OK.

    Dave G3YXM

    2009/6/25 Gus <begu@algonet.se>

      Graham, after some test it will be permanent !!



      Gus

        ----- Original Message -----=20

        From: Graham=20

        To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20

        Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 12:45 AM

        Subject: Re: LF: Grabber


        Gus ...  is this permanent on line ?



        I will add to the  grabbers page on uk500khz



        tnx - Graham .=20


        From: Gus=20

        Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 11:07 PM

        To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20

        Subject: LF: Grabber


        Dear LF !



        Just as info, i do some test with a new grabber.

        It could be find on http://www.sm6bhz.com/grabber.html



        73 de Gus


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<DIV>Dear all,</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Thanks for any info. <BR>It seems that the grabber 2 and grabber=
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appear in the same way, only works in IE. <BR>I shut down all three gr=
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until I found a solution. <BR><BR>73 de Gus SM6BHZ</DIV>
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e@fys.kuleuven.be">Rik Strobbe</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@=
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AM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: Grabber</DIV=
>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>Dave, Gus,<BR><BR>I noticed it too.<BR>The picture (i=
n jpeg=20
  format) is saved with an .html extension.<BR>It seems that only IE=
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  the code and recognizes the jpeg format, other browser don't check=
 and just=20
  display it as text.<BR><BR>You can check it: <BR>- let Firefox (or=
 any other=20
  browser) show the source code <BR>- save the source using the "save=
 as"&nbsp;=20
  option<BR>- in "save as" select the "all files" (or "all extensions"=
 ? ..=20
  sorry my OS is Dutch, but it is the last option) option<BR>- change=
 the name=20
  into grabber.jpg<BR>- browse to the file and double click on it, it=
 should=20
  open as a jpeg in your default viewer<BR><BR>73, Rik&nbsp; ON7YD<BR>=
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 get a screen=20
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      <DD>Graham, after some test it will be permanent !!<BR>
      <DD><BR>&nbsp;
      <DD><FONT color=3D#888888 size=3D4>Gus<BR></I></B></FONT>
      <DL>
        <DD>----- Original Message ----- <BR>
        <DD>From:</B> <A href=3D"mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk">Graha=
m</A> <BR>
        <DD>To:</B> <A           href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blackshe=
ep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
        <BR>
        <DD>Sent:</B> Friday, June 26, 2009 12:45 AM<BR>
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        <DD><FONT size=3D2>Gus ...&nbsp; is this permanent on line ?<B=
R></FONT>
        <DD><BR>&nbsp;
        <DD><FONT size=3D2>I will add to the&nbsp; grabbers page on=20
        uk500khz<BR></FONT>
        <DD><BR>&nbsp;
        <DD><FONT size=3D2>tnx - Graham . <BR></FONT><BR>
        <DD>From:</B> <A href=3D"mailto:begu@algonet.se">Gus</A> <BR>
        <DD>Sent:</B> Thursday, June 25, 2009 11:07 PM<BR>
        <DD>To:</B> <A           href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blackshe=
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        <BR>
        <DD>Subject:</B> LF: Grabber<BR><BR>
        <DD>Dear LF !<BR></I></B>
        <DD><BR>&nbsp;
        <DD>Just as info, i do some test with a new grabber.<BR>
        <DD>It could be find on <A           href=3D"http://www.sm6bhz=
.com/grabber.html">http://www.sm6bhz.com/grabber.html</A><BR></I></B>
        <DD><BR>&nbsp;
        <DD>73 de Gus<BR></I></B><BR>
        <HR>
        <BR>
        <DD>No virus found in this incoming message.<BR>
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Dave, Gus,

I noticed it too.
The picture (in jpeg format) is saved with an .html extension.
It seems that only IE looks into the code and recognizes the jpeg 
format, other browser don't check and just display it as text.

You can check it:
- let Firefox (or any other browser) show the source code
- save the source using the "save as"  option
- in "save as" select the "all files" (or "all extensions" ? .. sorry 
my OS is Dutch, but it is the last option) option
- change the name into grabber.jpg
- browse to the file and double click on it, it should open as a jpeg 
in your default viewer

73, Rik  ON7YD

At 09:35 26/06/2009, you wrote:
>Gus
>
>I just get a screen full of random characters in Firefox.
>In Internet Explorer (which I don't use) it works OK.
>
>Dave G3YXM
>
>2009/6/25 Gus <<mailto:begu@algonet.se>begu@algonet.se>
>Graham, after some test it will be permanent !!
>
>Gus
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>Graham
>To: <mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 12:45 AM
>Subject: Re: LF: Grabber
>
>Gus ...  is this permanent on line ?
>
>I will add to the  grabbers page on uk500khz
>
>tnx - Graham .
>
>From: <mailto:begu@algonet.se>Gus
>Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 11:07 PM
>To: <mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>Subject: LF: Grabber
>
>Dear LF !
>
>Just as info, i do some test with a new grabber.
>It could be find on 
><http://www.sm6bhz.com/grabber.html>http://www.sm6bhz.com/grabber.html
>
>73 de Gus
>
>
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>
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Dave, Gus,<br><br>
I noticed it too.<br>
The picture (in jpeg format) is saved with an .html extension.<br>
It seems that only IE looks into the code and recognizes the jpeg format,
other browser don't check and just display it as text.<br><br>
You can check it: <br>
- let Firefox (or any other browser) show the source code <br>
- save the source using the &quot;save as&quot;&nbsp; option<br>
- in &quot;save as&quot; select the &quot;all files&quot; (or &quot;all
extensions&quot; ? .. sorry my OS is Dutch, but it is the last option)
option<br>
- change the name into grabber.jpg<br>
- browse to the file and double click on it, it should open as a jpeg in
your default viewer<br><br>
73, Rik&nbsp; ON7YD<br><br>
At 09:35 26/06/2009, you wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">Gus<br><br>
I just get a screen full of random characters in Firefox.<br>
In Internet Explorer (which I don't use) it works OK.<br><br>
Dave G3YXM<br><br>
2009/6/25 Gus
&lt;<a href="mailto:begu@algonet.se">begu@algonet.se</a>&gt;<br>

<dl>
<dd>Graham, after some test it will be permanent !!<br>

<dd>&nbsp;<br>

<dd><font size=4 color="#888888">Gus<br>
</i></b></font>
<dl>
<dd>----- Original Message ----- <br>

<dd>From:</b> <a href="mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk">Graham</a> <br>

<dd>To:</b>
<a href="mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">
rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a> <br>

<dd>Sent:</b> Friday, June 26, 2009 12:45 AM<br>

<dd>Subject:</b> Re: LF: Grabber<br><br>

<dd><font size=2>Gus ...&nbsp; is this permanent on line ?<br>
</font>
<dd>&nbsp;<br>

<dd><font size=2>I will add to the&nbsp; grabbers page on uk500khz<br>
</font>
<dd>&nbsp;<br>

<dd><font size=2>tnx - Graham . <br>
</font><br>

<dd>From:</b> <a href="mailto:begu@algonet.se">Gus</a> <br>

<dd>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 25, 2009 11:07 PM<br>

<dd>To:</b>
<a href="mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">
rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a> <br>

<dd>Subject:</b> LF: Grabber<br><br>

<dd>Dear LF !<br>
</i></b>
<dd>&nbsp;<br>

<dd>Just as info, i do some test with a new grabber.<br>

<dd>It could be find on
<a href="http://www.sm6bhz.com/grabber.html">
http://www.sm6bhz.com/grabber.html</a><br>
</i></b>
<dd>&nbsp;<br>

<dd>73 de Gus<br>
</i></b><br>
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I guess distance makes a big difference on 500kHz.

I was not in a position to call Pedro last night, but at 2030z ON7WP 
was 559 here in Bracknell IO91PJ. At 2100z he was peaking 579 on the 
meter. Solid copy by ear all the time. There seemed to be nobody else 
on the band to answer his CQs.

73 Dave G3YMC

On 12 Jun 2009 at 21:34, Richard Newstead wrote:

> Gary - G4WGT wrote:
> > Pedro, LF,
> >
> > Seeing some weak traces on 503 kHz, it may be ON7WP ??
> >
> >   
> >
> 
> 2030z the cw is now audible and readable by ear here. Weak at present.
> 
> 73
> 
> Richard
> G3CWI
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> 


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Hello Marcin, Gerhard and LF,

thank's report and info!

73 de Gus SM6BHZ


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Marcin" <bxi@go2.pl>
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Subject: LF: MF: beacon reports


Hello!
Very good copy today MF beacons (23:00 UTC):
500kHz SK6RUD 569
505,5kHz  SM6BHZ 579/57
505,180kHz DI2AM 549
505,060kHz OK0EMW 539
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Antenna: HF long windom 83m, max hight 20m






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Hi Warren , LF ,

Just a short test at 01:20  ( many stormy last night )

73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj


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Hello Jim, and group,

thank's report !

No change in my licence, still the same 501-508 kHz.

73 de Gus SM6BHZ


----- Original Message ----- 
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> Dear Gus, LF Group,
>
> Just heard SM6BHZ calling CQ on 503.0kHz at around 2208utc, RST 569, so 
> guess licence conditions have changed in SM... unfortunately, not really 
> in a position to reply here at the moment, due to antenna experiments.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
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> 





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> Just don't expect the same sensitivity from such a WEBSDR as from
> some grabbers dedicated to 500kHz.
>
> 73, Rik  ON7YD

Rik,

   don't you have better ways to waste your time ???

73  Alberto  I2PHD




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Dear Jim,

yes you were about 3 to 4 V/m here last night - quite a good signal which would have certainly been audible if not for the statics.

The appended clip shows four of your sequence repetitions, as seen in a high resolution 21 mHz FFT - of course not readable but 
still showing consecutive dashes as a line in the upper trace and a gap in the lower one. The emission appears to be phase coherent 
across symbols of the same type, but not across frequency switching. Apparently the shift does not happen to be an exact integer 
multiple of the symbol rate, and after returning to the original frequency the phase has lapsed by some amount.

Best wishes, and thank you for this interesting activity during this short summer night.

Markus, DF6NM


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "James Moritz" <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>
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Subject: Re: LF: Re: 137khz RX-Test


Dear Gerhard, LF Group,

Sorry you have had no luck so far - I'm sure improvements will be possible.
I will leave the beacon running a little longer - I have QSY'ed to
137.690kHz so you can see how the signal appears on DF6NM's 137kHz grabber
at http://freenet-homepage.de/df6nm/Grabber.htm (Markus seems to have had
the same idea ;-)). As you can see, there is a lot of QRN, but the signal is
reasonably strong in JN59.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU



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Lubos,
     Thank you for the capture.
WD2XGJ will be off due to storms.
--=20
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
                WE2XEB/2
                WE2XGR/1


2009/6/2 Lubos OK2BVG <bvgbob@hotmail.com>:
> Hello Warren, LF!
> I saw signal XGJ before sunrice in OK. Nice reception this morning.
>
> Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS
>
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Hello!
Very good copy today MF beacons (23:00 UTC):
500kHz SK6RUD 569
505,5kHz  SM6BHZ 579/57
505,180kHz DI2AM 549
505,060kHz OK0EMW 539
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Vy 73!
Marcin SQ2BXI
QTH: big city Gda=F1sk, JO94GJ
RX: IC-746
Antenna: HF long windom 83m, max hight 20m


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Hello Pedro and team; LF

Your signal is clear audible in JN59LN now (449)

vy 73 de Gerhard  //  DK6NI

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-----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von Pedro M.J. Wyns
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Gesendet: Freitag, 12. Juni 2009 20:31
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; leden1@on4aob.be
Betreff: LF: ON7WP now testing on 503,000 kHz

test signal on air

reports appreciated on 3737 kHz (actually 3739 due to QRM...)

starting CQ for normal CW QSO on 19:00 utc and later

from 01:00 UTC CQ in QRSS 10

Pedro and team...





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Dear LF !

Just as info, i do some test with a new grabber.
It could be find on http://www.sm6bhz.com/grabber.html

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Hello J-P,Lf
strong signal AFJ
Henny pa3cpm
73s
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Gus

I just get a screen full of random characters in Firefox.
In Internet Explorer (which I don't use) it works OK.

Dave G3YXM

2009/6/25 Gus <begu@algonet.se>

>  *Graham, after some test it will be permanent !!*
> * *
> *Gus*
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
> *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> *Sent:* Friday, June 26, 2009 12:45 AM
> *Subject:* Re: LF: Grabber
>
> Gus ...  is this permanent on line ?
>
> I will add to the  grabbers page on uk500khz
>
> tnx - Graham .
>
>  *From:* Gus <begu@algonet.se>
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 25, 2009 11:07 PM
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> *Subject:* LF: Grabber
>
> *Dear LF !*
> **
> *Just as info, i do some test with a new grabber.*
> *It could be find on http://www.sm6bhz.com/grabber.html*
> **
> *73 de Gus*
>
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>


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Gus<br><br>I just get a screen full of random characters in Firefox.<br>In=
 Internet Explorer (which I don&#39;t use) it works OK.<br><br>Dave G3YXM<=
br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/6/25 Gus <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:begu@algonet.se">begu@algonet.se</a>&gt;</span><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204,=
 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">





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<div><b><i><font size=3D"4">Graham, after some test it will be permanent=
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<div><b><i><font size=3D"4">Gus</font></i></b></div>
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eft: 5px; padding-right: 0px; margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 0px;"><div=
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al; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-a=
djust: none; font-stretch: normal;">----- Original Message ----- </div>
  <div style=3D"background: rgb(228, 228, 228) none repeat scroll 0% 0%;=
 font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight=
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nt-stretch: normal; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-or=
igin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;">
<b>From:</b>=20
  <a title=3D"g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk" href=3D"mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co=
.uk" target=3D"_blank">Graham</a> </div>
  <div style=3D"font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: norm=
al; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-a=
djust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"rsgb_lf_group@b=
lacksheep.org" href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" target=3D"_bla=
nk">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a>=20
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; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size=
: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;=
">
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, June 26, 2009 12:45=20
AM</div>
  <div style=3D"font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: norm=
al; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-a=
djust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>Subject:</b> Re: LF: Grabber</div>
  <div><br></div>
  <div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Gus ...=A0 is this permanent on lin=
e=20
  ?</font></div>
  <div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div>
  <div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">I will add to the=A0 grabbers page=
 on=20
  uk500khz</font></div>
  <div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div>
  <div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">tnx - Graham . </font></div>
  <div style=3D"font-family: Tahoma; font-style: normal; font-variant: nor=
mal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-=
adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;">
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 -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;">
  <div><b>From:</b> <a title=3D"begu@algonet.se" href=3D"mailto:begu@algon=
et.se" target=3D"_blank">Gus</a> </div>
  <div><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 25, 2009 11:07 PM</div>
  <div><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" href=3D"mailto=
:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" target=3D"_blank">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.=
org</a>=20
  </div>
  <div><b>Subject:</b> LF: Grabber</div></div></div>
  <div><br></div>
  <div><b><i><font size=3D"4">Dear LF !</font></i></b></div>
  <div><b><i><font size=3D"4"></font></i></b>=A0</div>
  <div><b><i><font size=3D"4">Just as info, i do some test with a new=20
  grabber.</font></i></b></div>
  <div><b><i><font size=3D"4">It could be find on <a href=3D"http://www.sm=
6bhz.com/grabber.html" target=3D"_blank">http://www.sm6bhz.com/grabber.htm=
l</a></font></i></b></div>
  <div><b><i><font size=3D"4"></font></i></b>=A0</div>
  <div><b><i><font size=3D"4">73 de Gus</font></i></b></div>
  <p>
  </p><hr>

  <p></p><br>No virus found in this incoming message.<br>Checked by AVG -=
 <a href=3D"http://www.avg.com" target=3D"_blank">www.avg.com</a> <br>Vers=
ion: 8.5.339 / Virus=20
  Database: 270.12.91/2201 - Release Date: 06/25/09=20
06:22:00<br></div></div></blockquote></div>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>G3YXM IO92BK Birmingha=
m UK<br>

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cheers Gary
 
many thnx for screenshot of my 1st 600m QSo with Chris G3XIZ
 
With best regards
 
Jim
 
G7NKS
io92ub
biggleswade 
 
 
 
  _____  

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT
Sent: 04 June 2009 22:02
To: LF -RSGB LF Group
Subject: LF: G7NKS



Jim, LF,

 

G7NKS now audible & readable RST 529.

 

See your signal on my grabber at :-

 

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber1.html

 

73,

 

Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.

 



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<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D392394821-04062009><FONT face=3DAr=
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face=3DTahoma  size=3D2><B>From:</B> owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Gary -=20
G4WGT<BR><B>Sent:</B> 04 June 2009 22:02<BR><B>To:</B> LF -RSGB LF=20
Group<BR><B>Subject:</B> LF: G7NKS<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><B><FONT face=3DArial size=3D3><SPAN  style=3D"FONT-WEI=
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Jim, LF,

 

G7NKS now audible & readable RST 529.

 

See your signal on my grabber at :-

 

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber1.html

 

73,

 

Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.

 


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Hi Lubos, Joerg, LF,
capture last night..
DI2AM ~ 22.10z http://rn3agc.msk.ru/am.jpg
OK0EMW ~ 22.10z http://rn3agc.msk.ru/emw.jpg
SK6RUD ~ 22.55z http://rn3agc.msk.ru/rud.jpg

73


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Graham, after some test it will be permanent !!
=20
Gus
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Graham=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 12:45 AM
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  Gus ...  is this permanent on line ?

  I will add to the  grabbers page on uk500khz

  tnx - Graham .=20


  From: Gus=20
  Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 11:07 PM
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  Subject: LF: Grabber


  Dear LF !

  Just as info, i do some test with a new grabber.
  It could be find on http://www.sm6bhz.com/grabber.html

  73 de Gus


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  No virus found in this incoming message.
  Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20
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<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4>Graham, after some test it will be per=
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<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4>Gus</FONT></EM></STRONG></DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Gus ...&nbsp; is this permanent on=
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  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>I will add to the&nbsp; grabbers pa=
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  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>tnx - Graham . </FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4>Dear LF !</FONT></EM></STRONG></DIV>
  <DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4></FONT></EM></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4>Just as info, i do some test with a=
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Dear Lubos!

At which time are you usually transmitting? (QRG?)

I'm just a beginner in LF and it would be interesting if I can copy you
here in JN88HL.

Greetings

OE3GHB
Gerhard





Am Donnerstag, den 25.06.2009, 20:27 +0200 schrieb Lubos OK2BVG:
> Hello Warren, LF!
> That is FB news, thank you for it! I will apply for a new permission
> last month. I hope, that all will be OK. OK0EMW is on the air every
> night. But it depens on the weather, of course. 
> 
> 73!
> 
> Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS
> 
> ************************************************
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> > Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 13:53:29 -0400
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> > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; lowfer@mailman.qth.net
> > Subject: LF: WD2XGJ
> > 
> > The FCC has just renewed WD2XGJ for another 5 years!
> > 
> > 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ
> > 
> 
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NEW, on my website, is a self-contained utility that, in one go, will
generate an 'include' file for PIC assemblers for generating WSPR signals
from a DDS.
Run GENWSPR from the command line and specify call, loc and power, for
example   'genwspr, g4jnt, io90, 43'   and it will go away and generate a
file WSPTONES.INC for importing into a PIC assembly file.

Unlike the utilities already there for WSPR to PIC data conversion -
 'WSPR.EXE' by Joe himself, and my 'WSP2INC' - this does everything in one
go, is not fussy about upper lower case in data entry and reports errors
sensibly.  It also cures a small bug in WSP2INC that generates the last two
symbols incorrectly and which went unnoticed as the error correction in the
WSPR protocol is so strong it laughs at two symbols being in error.

The prog is first attempt at C programming, and going from fervently
disliking the language a few days ago (so totally unlike Basic !),  I've now
come round to actually quite liking it!
So please report any bugs / errors.

www.g4jnt.com/GENWSPR.EXE  or   http://www.g4jnt.com/beacons.htm




Andy  G4JNT

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OOOOPS!

 

The Frequency should read 503.7 kHz.

 

And of course the grabber is at :-

 

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html

 

Gary - G4WGT.

 

  _____  

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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT
Sent: 09 June 2009 20:45
To: LF -RSGB LF Group
Subject: LF: 500kHz - G4JNT Beacon grabber.

 

Hi All,

 

Just a line or two for the followers of the G4JNT 505.7kHz beacon to explain
the erratic signal & noise levels recently on the beacon grabber chart.

 

Over the past few days I have been working on my antenna system. This was to
carry out repairs & improvements to the top load on my LF/MF vertical since
the damage due to the gales in the early part of the year.

 

The raising & lowering etc of the mast & antenna has had an adverse effect
on the Mini-Whip active antenna used for the reception of the beacon which
is also installed on the mast.

 

The work is now completed & I feel that anyone who is following the beacon
data chart will now see an un-interrupted chart apart from the times when I
use the LF/MF antenna for my own transmitting arrangements. This is usually
announced on the grabber page.

 

73,

 

Gary - G4WGT - IO83QO.

 


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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=
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o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

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=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue;font-weight:bold'><o:p>&nb=
sp;</o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue;font-weight:bold'>The Freq=
uency
should read 503.7 kHz.<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue;font-weight:bold'><o:p>&nb=
sp;</o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue;font-weight:bold'>And of
course the grabber is at :-<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

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=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue;font-weight:bold'><o:p>&nb=
sp;</o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'=
font-size: 12.0pt'><a href=3D"http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.h=
tml">http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html</a></span></font><b><=
font color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-family:Arial;color:blue;f=
ont-weight: bold'><o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

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sp;</o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue;font-weight:bold'>Gary &#8=
211;
G4WGT.<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span lang=3DEN-US styl=
e=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></fon=
t></b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-size:10.=
0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or=
g] <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Gary - G4WGT<=
br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 09 June 2009 20:45<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st=3D"o=
n">LF
 -RSGB LF Group</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> LF: 500kHz - G4JNT B=
eacon
grabber.</span></font><span lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Hi All,<o:p></o:p></span></font=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font>=
</b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Just a line or two for the foll=
owers of the
G4JNT 505.7kHz beacon to explain the erratic signal &amp; noise levels recen=
tly
on the beacon grabber chart.<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font>=
</b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Over the past few days I have b=
een working
on my antenna system. This was to carry out repairs &amp; improvements to th=
e
top load on my LF/MF vertical since the damage due to the gales in the early
part of the year.<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font>=
</b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>The raising &amp; lowering etc=20=
of the mast
&amp; antenna has had an adverse effect on the Mini-Whip active antenna used
for the reception of the beacon which is also installed on the mast.<o:p></o=
:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font>=
</b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>The work is now completed &amp;=
 I feel that
anyone who is following the beacon data chart will now see an un-interrupted
chart apart from the times when I use the LF/MF antenna for my own transmitt=
ing
arrangements. This is usually announced on the grabber page.<o:p></o:p></spa=
n></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font>=
</b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><strong><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'f=
ont-size: 12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>73,</span></font></b></strong><o:p></o:p=
></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'=
font-size: 12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><strong><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'f=
ont-size: 12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Gary - G4WGT - IO83QO.</span></font></b>=
</strong><o:p></o:p></p>

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Jim Please DO NOT hi-jack a subject line by using the reply button to send a
new message. The result is a thread of messages that have nothing to do with
Warren WD2XGJ and I almost didnt read them.

Please start a new thread with the "Create Message" button. You will need to
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do here is right click on the "TO" line on an incoming refelctor message and
accept "Add to address book".

The subject line is extremely useful for searching old mail and "hijacked
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Thanks
Alan G3NYK
----- Original Message -----
From: "James Cowburn" <james.cowburn@virgin.net>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
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> Dear All,
>
> G7NKS active on 503KHz at 21.20 BST/20.20 UTC  sending CW @ 5wpm   "CQ
Test
> de G7NKS"
>
> Thanks for any reports
>
>
> Jim
>
>



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 sorry Warren but I used the original post as my reply!  Spot the newbie! =20

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Warren Ziegler
Sent: 04 June 2009 23:08
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: XGJ

Not sure what this thread is about but XGJ is not on now
--
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
                WE2XEB/2
                WE2XGR/1




On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 6:02 PM, Rik Strobbe <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
wrote:
> Jim,
>
> I heard Chris working you, but nothing at all from you (not even traces on
> the Argo screen).
> Chris was 559 here, so your ERP must have been at least 15dB below that of
> G3XIZ.
>
> 73, Rik =A0ON7YD - OR7T
>
>
> Quoting James Cowburn <james.cowburn@virgin.net>:
>
>> Hi Jim
>>
>> Many thnx. Was in Qso with Chris G3Xix. Not long range as he is also in
>> Biggleswade. 1st 600m Qso so dead chuffed!
>>
>> Just need to study up on antennas and matching so as to get more in the
>> ether and less cooking the finals
>>
>> Jim G7NKS
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of James Moritz
>> Sent: 04 June 2009 21:58
>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>> Subject: Re: LF: XGJ
>>
>> Dear Jim,
>>
>> Just audible here, about RST 229 at about 2050utc on 502.65kHz.
>>
>> Cheers, Jim Moritz
>> 73 de M0BMU
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "James Cowburn" <james.cowburn@virgin.net>
>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 9:09 PM
>> Subject: RE: LF: XGJ
>>
>>
>>> Dear All,
>>>
>>> G7NKS active on 503KHz at 21.20 BST/20.20 UTC =A0sending CW @ 5wpm =A0 "=
CQ
>>> Test
>>> de G7NKS"
>>
>>
>>
>> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus
>> signature
>> database 3583 (20081104) __________
>>
>> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.
>>
>> http://www.eset.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>


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More QRN and QSB today...
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Hi All,

 

This is a bit worrying, I am getting spam e-mails using my e-mail address
(this one - g4wgt) as the source/return address. I have already had a post
from some one in Germany querying the validity of the return mail address so
many others must be getting them also.

 

Is there some way to resolve this issue, stop it happening or notify some
authority or what-ever?

 

73,

 

Gary - G4WGT - IO83QO.

 


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Richard Newstead wrote:
>
> 2030z the cw is now audible and readable by ear here. Weak at present.
>
>

When you key I can see sidebands +/- 8Hz on your signal.

00



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Hi Mal,
If your Microsoft Windows is the same as mine (XP or Vista) then when the 
mouse pointer is hovered over the small picture it will turn into a little 
magnifying glass and when you click it, it goes back to full size, with 
scroll-bars to move around the image.
But I suggest you save the files to your hard disk and bring them into a 
drawing program or word processor and look at them / print them in that if 
you still have a problem. Windows XP has a very good Wizard for printing 
pictures, and Image Preview can save the GIF files into a wide range of 
other file types.

You will appreciate that the files are about 3Mbytes each and so if it was 
all one file it would be about 100Megabytes - it took best part of half an 
hour to up-load on broadband as it was.

In my e-mail I explained that I tried to reduce to size, but it all takes 
time and I wanted to get it up on the web as quickly as possible to benefit 
Roelof.

73
Hugh M0WYE



----- Original Message ----- 
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Subject: Re: LF: Siemens D2155


Hi  Hugh
I have a D2155 but cannot read your manual properly. It jumps from large to 
small print after a few secs. Can u send the manual as one doc instead of 
lots of separate pages.
de mal/g3kev

  ----- Original Message ----- 
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  Subject: Re: LF: Siemens D2155


  Hi Roelof and Nicolas,
  I have a manual, and your E-mail has spurred me on to finish scanning it 
and put it on my web site.
  you will find it here:
  http://www.qsl.net/m0wye/D2155/k2155man.htm
  It is a curious format, 150mm x 220mm folded over in a plastic wallet.
  I do not have any circuit diagrams.
  The manual contains 17 pieces of paper, there is an "A" side and a "B" 
side. If there appear to be pages missing in my list, it is because they 
were blank and I didn't scan them.

  Some of the text was quite small to I had to keep the resolution high, 
otherwise I would have made the files smaller. For a similar reason I have 
used GIF format, which is better for text and diagrams, than jpg which is 
better for photos.
  I did try using Textbridge to do character recognition, but it was going 
to take an awflly long time to proof read it and it destroyed the formating.
  73
  Hugh M0WYE

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: F4DTL@aol.com
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    Hello Roelof, I have a D2155 selective level meter with the W3155 
tracking oscillator, I have no documentation but the battery is of 12V 7A

    Best regards F4DTL Nicolas


    Dans un e-mail dat du 25/06/2009 17:49:05 Paris, Madrid (heure d't), 
roelof@ndb.demon.nl a crit :
      Hello all,

      I have received a question from someone who owns a Siemens D2155 
selective
      level meter.
      I have owned one in the past, but it has move on to a good home and I 
am
      not able to check things anymore.

      Does anyone now a source for the manual?

      Does anyone know the type of the internal battery and the voltage and
      current rating?

      Any help will be much appreciated.

      Best regards,
      Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt





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Thank you Henny
73 J-P f1afj

henny van elst a =E9crit :
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> nice capture AFJ
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hello Jim and lf group.
Thank you Jim for your message I am new on 137 kHz and I look for some 
control paufiner my settings in any case I hope to have possitive news from 
you in the future.
Yesterday I spent well on the grabber Markus df6nm
I'm past that tag a few times in the afternoon yesterday ..
the pleasure of a qso on 137khz
Regards Claude f8boj.
===============
----- Original Message ----- 
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Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 11:33 PM
Subject: LF: Re: Hello all.....!


> Dear Claude, LF Group,
>
> I tried looking for your signal, but the level of QRN is currently 
> exceptionally high, and the spectrogram display is a complete "white-out". 
> DF6NM's grabber is also showing very high noise levels, and the EUCLID 
> lightning map shows extensive thunderstorm activity across Europe, so 
> conditions are not the best at the moment! Hope to catch your signal when 
> conditions improve,
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Claude Berthebaud" <f8boj@club-internet.fr>
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> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 1:52 PM
> Subject: LF: Hello all.....!
>
>
> hello
> Today I am testing 137740hz in qrss3
> for possible check your repport are welcome thank you for your kindness
> f8boj claude
>
>
> 




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Jean-Pierre,

Thanks very much for the report!

John, W1TAG

Jean-Pierre Mr (F1AFJ) wrote:
> Hi John , LF ,
> I copy your beacon last night ( see capture )
> 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj


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Chris.....

Oh dear ....hi .... Well I would think that the fan coils my  be  acting as=20=
antennas and  subjecting the electronics control board to 'slight' over volt=
age ... can you  pick up a ex equipment  'ac' fan , I have a System Papst TY=
P -8550-N  230V/50hz , which moves quite a bit of  air , about 3 inch mount=20=
, that would solve the  problem ?

G ..=20


From: Chris Osborn=20
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 7:34 AM
To: LF Group=20
Subject: LF: 500 kHz - Fans


LF,
I've nearly completed my new PA for 500 kHz and have now managed to
stop destroying FET's.

Unfortunately I have an unusual problem in that the heatsink cooling fans
are going U/S.

I have used 24 volts brushless PC-type fans and after a while they
either die completely or start to go backwards slowly. . .

The fans may be slightly over-run but only by a volt or so and on key-up=20
(unregulated supply) and are situated about 50 mm (2 inches) from the heatsi=
nk.
I have rf decoupled them from the supply but maybe not well enough !

Any suggestions in curing this problem would be most welcome.

73 Chris G3XIZ







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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Chris.....</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Oh dear ....hi .... Well I would think that=
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, June 20, 2009 7:34 AM</DIV>
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<DIV>LF,</DIV>
<DIV>I've nearly completed my new PA for 500 kHz and have now managed to</DI=
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<DIV>stop destroying FET's.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Unfortunately I have an unusual problem in that the heatsink cooling=20
fans</DIV>
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<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>I have used 24 volts brushless PC-type fans and after a while they</DIV=
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<DIV>The fans may be slightly over-run but only by a volt or so and on key-u=
p=20
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<DIV>I have rf decoupled them from the supply but&nbsp;maybe not well enough=
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!</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Any suggestions&nbsp;in curing this problem would be most welcome.</DIV=
>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>73 Chris G3XIZ</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></DIV><BR>
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Hello Henny , LF ,
Within sight of the signal on the grabber ,
I think that it is a test of Nicolas (F4DTL)
or Claude (F8BOJ)
73 Jean-Pierre f1AFJ

henny van elst a crit :
> Hi,LF
> capture who?
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Hi LF & SAQ,

 

Transmission at 1200utc was 100% copy although not too strong at RST 519.

 

Using Mini-Whip at 9mtrs high & JRC NRD-345 receiver, external audio filter
set at 100Hz to help reduce static crashes.

 

73,

 

Gary - G4WGT - IO83QO - NW England.

 


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Hi Warren,Lf
capture XGJ
Henny pa3cpm
73s
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Warren,Lf</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>capture XGJ</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Henny pa3cpm</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>73s</FONT></DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het volgende 
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Hello Richard,

I copied you 429 on 502.0 and a bit later on 502.5
But as Perdo, ON7WP, (here 599+40dB) was on I didn't call.
Let's try a QSO one of the next days (when QRN is low it should work).
GW3UEP was 579 here and SM6BHZ was 599+10dB.

73, Rik  ON7YD

Quoting Richard Newstead <g3cwi@btconnect.com>:

> Gary - G4WGT wrote:
>> Pedro. LF,
>>
>> ON7WP QRS signal last night at 2135utc.
>>
>>
>>
> At 2130 ON7WP was 549. OR7T was 419. GW3UEP also 419. Gus (SM? I forget
> his call) was 569. I called many times but my TX will only QSY to 502.5
> so could not net - sorry.
>
> 73
>
> Richard
> G3CWI
>
>
>




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Dear Gerhard, LF Group,

The beacon is now running again at 2000utc, as before in DFCW mode centered 
on 137.680kHz. I will leave it running for a few hours at least. It is still 
quite light here, so I expect signal levels will increase over time. As 
expected, QRN has increased, too...

Any reports very welcome,

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU



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Many thanks for putting me right. Probably thinking of WCC.

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Warren Ziegler wrote:
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>   Ocean Gate is in New Jersey, not Cape Cod (which is in Massachusetts).
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> http://wikimapia.org/4673741/AT-T-High-Seas-Service-Radio-Station-Manahawkin-WOO
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>   


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Jim,

NIL here (JO20IX) at 20:30 UTC
But is not yet completely dark outside.
I will try again later.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

Quoting James Cowburn <james.cowburn@virgin.net>:

> Dear All,
>
> G7NKS active on 503KHz at 21.20 BST/20.20 UTC  sending CW @ 5wpm   "CQ Test
> de G7NKS"
>
> Thanks for any reports
>
>
> Jim
>
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>




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Henny,
  Thank you for the capture!

-- 
73 Warren K2ORS
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2009/6/9 henny van elst <cpm@planet.nl>:
> Hi Warren,Lf
> capture XGJ
> Henny pa3cpm
> best 73s
> Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden
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Dear Claude, LF Group,

I tried looking for your signal, but the level of QRN is currently 
exceptionally high, and the spectrogram display is a complete "white-out". 
DF6NM's grabber is also showing very high noise levels, and the EUCLID 
lightning map shows extensive thunderstorm activity across Europe, so 
conditions are not the best at the moment! Hope to catch your signal when 
conditions improve,

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU

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hello
Today I am testing 137740hz in qrss3
for possible check your repport are welcome thank you for your kindness
f8boj claude



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Hello Gus,

signal very weak this evening in JN59LN. (CW about 349)

vy 73 de Gerhard /  DK6NI

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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von Gus
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Betreff: LF: Re: MF: beacon reports

Hello Marcin, Gerhard and LF,

thank's report and info!

73 de Gus SM6BHZ


----- Original Message -----=20
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Hello!
Very good copy today MF beacons (23:00 UTC):
500kHz SK6RUD 569
505,5kHz  SM6BHZ 579/57
505,180kHz DI2AM 549
505,060kHz OK0EMW 539
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Vy 73!
Marcin SQ2BXI
QTH: big city Gda=F1sk, JO94GJ
RX: IC-746
Antenna: HF long windom 83m, max hight 20m








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Hi LF Group
=A0
I think that must have been, or still is a big TX site because I can remem=
ber listening to,=A0I think, VOA (AM) from there on my SW one valver back=
 in the 1950s.
=A0
73 petefmt

--- On Sun, 28/6/09, Hugh M0WYE <m0wye@radiouk.com> wrote:


From: Hugh M0WYE <m0wye@radiouk.com>
Subject: LF: Re: WHITE PLAINS
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Sunday, 28 June, 2009, 12:36 AM





I've got a record by them, it was in the charts about 1973.
Hugh M0WYE

----- Original Message -----=20
From: mal hamilton=20
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Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 8:05 PM
Subject: LF: WHITE PLAINS


I remember a radio station on HF SSB years ago WHITE PLAINS. Where=A0is th=
at located, somewhere in the USA.
De mal/g3kev
=A0=A0


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<table cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" border=3D"0" ><tr><td valign=3D=
"top" style=3D"font: inherit;"><DIV>Hi LF Group</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>I think that must have been, or still is a big TX site because I can=
 remember listening to,&nbsp;I think, VOA (AM) from there on my SW one val=
ver back in the 1950s.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>73 petefmt<BR><BR>--- On <B>Sun, 28/6/09, Hugh M0WYE <I>&lt;m0wye@rad=
iouk.com&gt;</I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
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<DIV>From: Hugh M0WYE &lt;m0wye@radiouk.com&gt;<BR>Subject: LF: Re: WHITE=
 PLAINS<BR>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR>Date: Sunday, 28 June, 2009=
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>I've got a record by them, it was in the=
 charts about 1973.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Hugh M0WYE</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4"><B>From:</B> <A title=
=3Dg3kevmal@talktalk.net href=3D"http://uk.mc281.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose=
?to=3Dg3kevmal@talktalk.net" rel=3Dnofollow target=3D_blank ymailto=3D"mai=
lto:g3kevmal@talktalk.net">mal hamilton</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacks=
heep.org href=3D"http://uk.mc281.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3Drsgb_lf_gr=
oup@blacksheep.org" rel=3Dnofollow target=3D_blank ymailto=3D"mailto:rsgb_=
lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, June 27, 2009 8:05=
 PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: WHITE PLAINS</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>I remember a radio station on HF SSB year=
s ago WHITE PLAINS. Where&nbsp;is that located, somewhere in the USA.</FON=
T></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>De mal/g3kev</FONT></DIV>
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Hello Warren,Lf
strong signal and nice capture XGJ,
Henny pa3cpm
best 73s
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hello Warren,Lf</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>strong signal and nice capture XGJ,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Henny pa3cpm</FONT></DIV>
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Hello Hugh,

Many thanks indeed.
It is much appreciated.

73,
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Hi Rik

That would not surprise me right now as the ant is a bit of a rush job.  I
am going to work on it tomorrow to sort out the matching system and earth to
hopefully radiate a little more signal. Chris and I are no more than 2 kn
apart so I clearly have some loss issues!

Thnx for rprt tho



Cheers

Jim G7NKS


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Rik Strobbe
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Subject: RE: LF: XGJ

Jim,

I heard Chris working you, but nothing at all from you (not even traces on
the Argo screen).
Chris was 559 here, so your ERP must have been at least 15dB below that of
G3XIZ.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T


Quoting James Cowburn <james.cowburn@virgin.net>:

> Hi Jim
>
> Many thnx. Was in Qso with Chris G3Xix. Not long range as he is also 
> in Biggleswade. 1st 600m Qso so dead chuffed!
>
> Just need to study up on antennas and matching so as to get more in 
> the ether and less cooking the finals
>
> Jim G7NKS
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of James Moritz
> Sent: 04 June 2009 21:58
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> Dear Jim,
>
> Just audible here, about RST 229 at about 2050utc on 502.65kHz.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
> ----- Original Message -----
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>> Dear All,
>>
>> G7NKS active on 503KHz at 21.20 BST/20.20 UTC  sending CW @ 5wpm   "CQ
>> Test
>> de G7NKS"
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James,

Nothing  from the  speaker  at io83lk, I can see a trace at Birmingham > htt=
p://www.wireless.org.uk/grab/  , which is 75 miles closer to  you  than my q=
th=20

I can see a trace using  spec-lab , but that is 100 Hz lower ...and very low=
 , looks like a cw signal , but only  just over the noise ...are you  'spot=20=
on'  502.500 ?=20

>From past qso's with  Chris, I think you  are just outside the ground wave r=
ange , with  signals showing at Birmingham but  not 75 miles on, its a pity=20=
John has=20
closed his Shetland monitor, you may of  shown there=20

73 Graham
G0NBD

From: James Cowburn=20
Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2009 8:56 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Subject: LF: G7NKS on tonite 502.5


Dear All,

G7NKS back on 502.5 tonight "CQ TEST de G7NKS" at 7wpm =20

thanks for any reports

Jim



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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>James,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Nothing&nbsp;&nbsp;from the&nbsp; speaker &=
nbsp;at=20
io83lk, I can see a trace at Birmingham &gt; <A   title=3D"http://www.wirele=
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ss.org.uk/grab/">http://www.wireless.org.uk/grab/</A>&nbsp;=20
, which is 75 miles closer to&nbsp; you&nbsp; than my qth </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>I can see a trace using&nbsp; spec-lab , bu=
t that=20
is 100 Hz lower ...and very low , looks like a cw signal , but only&nbsp; ju=
st=20
over the noise ...are you&nbsp; 'spot on' &nbsp;502.500 ? </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>From past qso's with&nbsp; Chris, I think y=
ou&nbsp;=20
are just outside the ground wave range , with&nbsp; signals showing at=20
Birmingham but&nbsp; not 75 miles on, its a pity John has </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>closed his Shetland monitor, you may of&nbs=
p; shown=20
there </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>7</FONT><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>3=20
Graham</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>G0NBD</FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma">
<DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #f5f5f5">
<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A   title=3D"mailto:james.cow=
burn@virgin.net&#10;CTRL + Click to follow link"   href=3D"mailto:james.cowb=
urn@virgin.net">James Cowburn</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, June 06, 2009 8:56 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A   title=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org&#10;CTRL +=
 Click to follow link"   href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_l=
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> LF: G7NKS on tonite 502.5</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN class=3D906485219-06062009>Dear=20
All,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN   class=3D906485219-06062009></SPAN><=
/FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN class=3D906485219-06062009>G7NKS back=
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tonight "CQ TEST de G7NKS" at 7wpm&nbsp; </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN   class=3D906485219-06062009></SPAN><=
/FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN class=3D906485219-06062009>thanks for=
 any=20
reports</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN   class=3D906485219-06062009></SPAN><=
/FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN   class=3D906485219-06062009>Jim</SPA=
N></FONT></DIV>
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/FONT>&nbsp;</DIV><BR><BR>__________=20
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Gus ...  is this permanent on line ?

I will add to the  grabbers page on uk500khz

tnx - Graham .=20


From: Gus=20
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 11:07 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Subject: LF: Grabber


Dear LF !

Just as info, i do some test with a new grabber.
It could be find on http://www.sm6bhz.com/grabber.html

73 de Gus


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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Gus ...&nbsp; is this permanent on li=
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=3Dbegu@algonet.=
se   href=3D"mailto:begu@algonet.se">Gus</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, June 25, 2009 11:07 PM</DIV>
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to:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> LF: Grabber</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4>Dear LF !</FONT></EM></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4></FONT></EM></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4>Just as info, i do some test with a ne=
w=20
grabber.</FONT></EM></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4>It could be find on <A   href=3D"http:=
//www.sm6bhz.com/grabber.html">http://www.sm6bhz.com/grabber.html</A><=
/FONT></EM></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4></FONT></EM></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4>73 de Gus</FONT></EM></STRONG></DIV>
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I've got a record by them, it was in the charts about 1973.
Hugh M0WYE
  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  I remember a radio station on HF SSB years ago WHITE PLAINS. Where=
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Hello Jean-Pierre, LF!
Yes, I was surprised, the propagation was really good last night. I saw your=
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GL and 73!

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

*********************************

> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 13:25:17 +0200
> From: jpm.f1afj@online.fr
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: Re: LF: XGJ
>=20
> Hello Warren , Lubos , Henny
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> Very good conditions at this beginning of summer! we are in the longest=20
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> the night is very short between Warren and Lubos . Cheer , beautiful=20
> capture of
> Warren , Lubos ! ( JN88ks =3D> FN42hi =3D 6519 km )
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> 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj
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>  > capture XGJ
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>  > 73s
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> Lubos OK2BVG a =E9crit :
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r>&gt; Hello Warren , Lubos , Henny<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Very good conditions at=
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POSTED TO  UK500KHZ=20




Gents,=20

on friday starting 19:00 UTC a station will be set up by the HOB radio=20
amateur club of Heist-op-den-Berg located in JO21IC.=20


The station will consist of a 400W transistor exciter, variometer=20
tuner and 160 m 1/4 lambda vertical.=20


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<P>on friday starting 19:00 UTC a station will be set up by the HOB radio=20
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Dear Jeff,

havn't actually tried it myself on 137 kHz. But from past experience=
 I'd say that while IGBTs may have less DC loss, they are much slower=
 (especially during turnoff). They can be used as effient switches at=
 some tens of kHz, whereas MOSFETs will easily go up to several MHz.

Kind regards,
Markus, DF6NM

  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Good night to all,

  Anybody would have any experience on the use of IGBT in 136 KHz ampl=
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  Thanks in advance!
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>havn't actually tried it myself on 13=
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Hi  Hugh
I have a D2155 but cannot read your manual properly. It jumps from lar=
ge to small print after a few secs. Can u send the manual as one doc=
 instead of lots of separate pages.
de mal/g3kev

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Hugh M0WYE=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 9:50 PM
  Subject: Re: LF: Siemens D2155


  Hi Roelof and Nicolas,
  I have a manual, and your E-mail has spurred me on to finish scannin=
g it and put it on my web site.
  you will find it here:
  http://www.qsl.net/m0wye/D2155/k2155man.htm
  It is a curious format, 150mm x 220mm folded over in a plastic walle=
t.
  I do not have any circuit diagrams.
  The manual contains 17 pieces of paper, there is an "A" side and a=
 "B" side. If there appear to be pages missing in my list, it is becau=
se they were blank and I didn't scan them.

  Some of the text was quite small to I had to keep the resolution hig=
h, otherwise I would have made the files smaller. For a similar reason=
 I have used GIF format, which is better for text and diagrams, than=
 jpg which is better for photos.
  I did try using Textbridge to do character recognition, but it was=
 going to take an awflly long time to proof read it and it destroyed=
 the formating.
  73
  Hugh M0WYE

    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: F4DTL@aol.com=20
    To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
    Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 5:00 PM
    Subject: Re: LF: Siemens D2155


    Hello Roelof, I have a D2155 selective level meter with the W3155=
 tracking oscillator, I have no documentation but the battery is of 12=
V 7A

    Best regards F4DTL Nicolas


    Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 25/06/2009 17:49:05 Paris, Madrid (heure=
 d'=E9t=E9), roelof@ndb.demon.nl a =E9crit :
      Hello all,

      I have received a question from someone who owns a Siemens D2155=
 selective =20
      level meter.
      I have owned one in the past, but it has move on to a good home=
 and I am =20
      not able to check things anymore.

      Does anyone now a source for the manual?

      Does anyone know the type of the internal battery and the voltag=
e and =20
      current rating?

      Any help will be much appreciated.

      Best regards,
      Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt





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<DIV>Hi&nbsp; Hugh</DIV>
<DIV>I have a D2155 but cannot read your manual properly. It jumps fro=
m large to=20
small print after a few secs. Can u send the manual as one doc instead=
 of lots=20
of separate pages.</DIV>
<DIV>de mal/g3kev</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE   style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-L=
EFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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 black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dm0wye@radiouk.com href=3D"mailto:m0wye@radiouk.com">Hugh=
 M0WYE</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@=
blacksheep.org     href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_l=
f_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, June 25, 2009=
 9:50=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: Siemens D215=
5</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>Hi Roelof and Nicolas,</DIV>
  <DIV>I have a manual, and your E-mail has spurred me on to finish sc=
anning it=20
  and put it on my web site.</DIV>
  <DIV>you will find it here:</DIV>
  <DIV><A     href=3D"http://www.qsl.net/m0wye/D2155/k2155man.htm">htt=
p://www.qsl.net/m0wye/D2155/k2155man.htm</A></DIV>
  <DIV>It is a curious format, 150mm x 220mm folded over in a plastic=
=20
  wallet.</DIV>
  <DIV>I do not have any circuit diagrams.</DIV>
  <DIV>The manual contains 17 pieces of paper, there is an "A" side an=
d a "B"=20
  side. If there appear to be pages missing in my list, it is because=
 they were=20
  blank and I didn't scan them.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Some of the text was quite small to I had to keep the resolutio=
n high,=20
  otherwise I would have made the files smaller. For a similar reason=
 I have=20
  used GIF format, which is better for text and diagrams, than jpg whi=
ch is=20
  better for photos.</DIV>
  <DIV>I did try using Textbridge to do character recognition, but it=
 was going=20
  to take an awflly long time to proof read it and it destroyed the=20
  formating.</DIV>
  <DIV>73</DIV>
  <DIV>Hugh M0WYE</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr     style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT:=
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f_group@blacksheep.org       href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.o=
rg">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
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    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, June 25, 20=
09 5:00=20
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    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: Siemens D2=
155</DIV>
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00 size=3D2>
    <DIV>
    <DIV>Hello Roelof, I have a D2155 selective&nbsp;level meter&nbsp;=
with=20
    the&nbsp;W3155 tracking oscillator, I have no documentation but th=
e battery=20
    is of 12V 7A</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><STRONG>Best regards F4DTL Nicolas</STRONG></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 25/06/2009 17:49:05 Paris, Madrid (h=
eure d'=E9t=E9),=20
    <A href=3D"mailto:roelof@ndb.demon.nl">roelof@ndb.demon.nl</A> a=
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 from someone who owns=20
      a Siemens D2155 selective&nbsp; <BR>level meter.<BR>I have owned=
 one in=20
      the past, but it has move on to a good home and I am&nbsp; <BR>n=
ot able to=20
      check things anymore.<BR><BR>Does anyone now a source for the=20
      manual?<BR><BR>Does anyone know the type of the internal battery=
 and the=20
      voltage and&nbsp; <BR>current rating?<BR><BR>Any help will be mu=
ch=20
      appreciated.<BR><BR>Best regards,<BR>Roelof Bakker,=20
    pa0rdt<BR><BR></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>
    <DIV></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT>
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Cheers  Rik

I'll leave the set up running for an hour or so while I clear my inbox 


With best regards


Jim  G7NKS


 
Dr. James Cowburn
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Jim,

NIL here (JO20IX) at 20:30 UTC
But is not yet completely dark outside.
I will try again later.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

Quoting James Cowburn <james.cowburn@virgin.net>:

> Dear All,
>
> G7NKS active on 503KHz at 21.20 BST/20.20 UTC  sending CW @ 5wpm   "CQ
Test
> de G7NKS"
>
> Thanks for any reports
>
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> Jim
>
>
>




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Hello LF!
Signal from SAQ was very strong - 599 with QRN.
Receicer: Chase Electrics Limited LFR1000
Aerial: LF Amrad 5m long (homa made)

It was used ATT -20dB between aerial and RX, becouse signal was too strong=
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73!

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Hello LF!<br>Signal from SAQ was very strong - 599 with QRN.<br>Receicer:=
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m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
> Tim
>  
> Try:-
>
> Loop Antenna News and Information F 
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/loopantennas;_ylc=X3oDMTJlNjltdm4xBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzEyODUxOTEwBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwODM5NjM3OQRzZWMDaGRyBHNsawNocGgEc3RpbWUDMTI0NDQ5ODU4OQ-->
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> loopantennas@yahoogroups.com 
> <http://uk.mc281.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=loopantennas@yahoogroups.com>
>  
> Loads of info there!!
>  
> 73 petefmt
>  
>  
>  
>  
> On *Wed, 10/6/09, tim hague /<m0afj@dsl.pipex.com>/* wrote:
>
> From: tim hague <m0afj@dsl.pipex.com>
> Subject: Re: LF: Re Welbrook Loops
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Date: Wednesday, 10 June, 2009, 9:47 AM
>
>     Dave Pick wrote:
>     > Tim
>     >
>     > Yes, I use one all the time. The problem is usually the
>     receiver, the Wellbrook will easily overload even the best
>     receivers with broadcast signals as most don't have any front-end
>     selectivity below 1.6MHz. Try a 500kHz tuned circuit between the
>     loop and the RX.
>     >
>     > Dave.
>     >
>     > 2009/6/10 tim hague <m0afj@dsl.pipex.com
>     <http://uk.mc281.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=m0afj@dsl.pipex.com>
>     <mailto:m0afj@dsl.pipex.com
>     <http://uk.mc281.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=m0afj@dsl.pipex.com>>>
>     >
>     >     I've got a ALA 1530 Wellbrook Loop, is anyone using one of these
>     >     for 500kHz monitoring?, although I can hear NDB's nothing on
>     500kHz.
>     >
>     >     Tim M0AFJ
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > -- G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK
>     Thanks Dave, I'll have a go, just for interest, how have you got
>     yours mounted?, do you find you need a rotator?
>
>     Best Regards
>
>     Tim M0AFJ
>
>
Thanks Pete

Tim AFJ


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Good evening.
Thank you Gary for this information I will get to address this now=20
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  Claude,

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  =20

  hello all.

  I'm looking for technical documentation Receiver Shwarzbeck
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Warren
You seem to get a lot of bad WX there. Move to California or Texas, there 
are pots of gold there as well. A big attraction !!
g3kev

----- Original Message ----- 
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Hi Jean-Pierre,

  Thanks for the capture.
Yes very bad weather with thunderstorms predicted the next several days.
-- 
73 Warren K2ORS
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> bad capture , sry !
>
> Hi Warren , LF ,
>
> Just a short test at 01:20 ( many stormy last night )
>
> 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj
>
>
>



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Hello Jim.
I could just about hear you in Luton, IO91TV , at 19.50 UTC

73
Ken
M0KHW
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> Dear LF Group,
>
> As art of continuing investigations into antennas, grounds, etc., I am 
> running a beacon at the moment on 503.5kHz - I am testing a small "/P" 
> antenna similar to what G3CWI proposed to use a couple of weeks back. It 
> is a 9m high "umbrella" with 4 x 5m long top loading wires sloping at 
> about 45degrees. Ground system is 4 x 20m radial wires.
>
> The beacon is transmitting an 8wpm CW identifier, followed by five 5 
> second dashes at reducing power levels in steps of 6dB. The maximum ERP is 
> somewhere in the region of 100mW ERP. The sequence repeats every 2 mins 
> roughly.
>
> I'll leave it running until after dark at least - any reports would be 
> very welcome.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
> 



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Hi Jim ,

James Moritz a =E9crit :
> Any reports very welcome.=20
Good copy of your test now !

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Dear Tim, LF Group,

I tried some expeiments with measuring loop antennas at LF and MF a while 
back - changing the height above ground from 0 - 10m made virtually no 
difference. The only thing that made a lot of difference to signal levels is 
if the loop is very close to big metal objects, but even then the difference 
is only minor unless the metal thing is big compared to the loop, and within 
a loop diameter, say.

I would agree with G3YXM about overloading - if you have an oscilloscope, it 
is worth connecting it to the loop output to see if any huge signals are 
present. I have used elliptic low pass filters here to reduce the signal 
level from the local medium wave broadcast stations to a reasonable level.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU

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Subject: Re: LF: Re Welbrook Loops


>I use a 1530 as well, its mounted on a rotator about 2ft above ground level 
>on a Barenco
> socket/spike. Works well 80m down to 500khz but being so close to the 
> ground its a bit deaf
> above 80m as you would expect. My understanding is that for hf it should 
> me mounted high up but
> for lf its better low down near the ground.
>
> A rotator isn't really necessary as the beamwidth is quite broad but where 
> I do find it useful is
> nulling out the local qrm, switch modes etc.
>



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In a recent message, mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net> wrote ...
>Does anyone have a spare BC 348?
>de mal/g3kev

No, but I have the full, detailed technical manual for it if anyone 
needs one.

73

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Dear all

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Dear all<br><br>Has anyone got a picture of some new item of interest to the LF/MF community? Needed for the next Radcom LF column.<br>If you have, please send it to me in best quality via a direct mail to g3yxm at wireless dot org dot uk<br>
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bonjour=20
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ensuite je suis =E0 l'ecoute ....
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amicalement F8boj Claude
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  Hello Claude,your capture this morning.



  F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP

  RX : Icom IC7400
  Ant: Wellbrook LFL 1010

  http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/


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Hello Gerhard,

OE5ODL can put out a respectable signal whenever you want. I can help 
set up a sked, if you reply to my email adress (just google my callsign).

73 Heinz, OE5EEP


Gerhard Hickl schrieb:
> Hello James and the group!
>
> Thanks for the reply. Unfortunately I can't copy your signal in the
> moment, let's hope for the evening/night.
>
> I'm using my shortwave-antenna, a 55m long endfed wire in about 12m
> height as antenna for lf. it's connected to the unsymmetrical input of
> the Selective Level Meter. I think using this antenna is the first
> problem. Another one ist that I don't have a preamp yet. The 2nd antenna
> is a resonant frame antenna with about 1m diameter. Unfortunately I
> haven't managed to bring it outside somehow and so I'm using it in the
> shack which gives me a lot of QRM, especially from the tube-monitor
> (n*75Hz vert. frequenzy).
>
> The Level Meter only has a 22Hz and a 3.1khz filter. I just can use the
> 3.1 filter which gaves me lot of QRM from DCF39. I have tuned to 137.15
> becasue I found that this qrg is quiet (-107dbm) compared to some 100Hz
> up and down where the noise level is up to -92dbm. I think this noise is
> produced by the carrier of DCF39 somehow.
>
> As you may have noticed, I'm a LF beginner and it seems I have to work
> on the sensitivity of my equipment. I'm living 30km north of Vienna and
> I think QRN and QRM is not so bad here.
>
> Any suggestions welcome.
>
> Thanks a lot
> and 73 de OE3GHB
>
> Gerhard Hickl
>
>   



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Hi folks,

I am currently (next half hour..) testing my transmit antenna in rainy 
conditions to see wether my isolators catch fire or not ;-)

CW beacon every 10 seconds TEST de ON7WP JO21IC at 20 wpm, legal limit 
off course...

Pedro ON7WP-AA9HX




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Dear All,
 
G7NKS back on 502.5 tonight "CQ TEST de G7NKS" at 7wpm  
 
thanks for any reports
 
Jim
 

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Tnx info Warren
It is a good bit inland for a shore/ship radio telephone station. Normally 
they were located on the coast. I used to hear it frequenntly in the UK
73 Mal/g3kev

----- Original Message ----- 
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White plains is immediately North of New York City:

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=white+plains,ny&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&split=0&gl=us&ei=VW5GSo-fLdGktwfwuInOBg&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&ct=title&resnum=1

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On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 3:05 PM, mal hamilton<g3kevmal@talktalk.net> wrote:
> I remember a radio station on HF SSB years ago WHITE PLAINS. Where is that
> located, somewhere in the USA.
> De mal/g3kev
>



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Thank you Claude F8BOJ
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Not sure what this thread is about but XGJ is not on now
--=20
73 Warren K2ORS
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On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 6:02 PM, Rik Strobbe <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be> wr=
ote:
> Jim,
>
> I heard Chris working you, but nothing at all from you (not even traces on
> the Argo screen).
> Chris was 559 here, so your ERP must have been at least 15dB below that of
> G3XIZ.
>
> 73, Rik =A0ON7YD - OR7T
>
>
> Quoting James Cowburn <james.cowburn@virgin.net>:
>
>> Hi Jim
>>
>> Many thnx. Was in Qso with Chris G3Xix. Not long range as he is also in
>> Biggleswade. 1st 600m Qso so dead chuffed!
>>
>> Just need to study up on antennas and matching so as to get more in the
>> ether and less cooking the finals
>>
>> Jim G7NKS
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of James Moritz
>> Sent: 04 June 2009 21:58
>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>> Subject: Re: LF: XGJ
>>
>> Dear Jim,
>>
>> Just audible here, about RST 229 at about 2050utc on 502.65kHz.
>>
>> Cheers, Jim Moritz
>> 73 de M0BMU
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "James Cowburn" <james.cowburn@virgin.net>
>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 9:09 PM
>> Subject: RE: LF: XGJ
>>
>>
>>> Dear All,
>>>
>>> G7NKS active on 503KHz at 21.20 BST/20.20 UTC =A0sending CW @ 5wpm =A0 "=
CQ
>>> Test
>>> de G7NKS"
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>>
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>
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>
>

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Dear LF Group,

As art of continuing investigations into antennas, grounds, etc., I am 
running a beacon at the moment on 503.5kHz - I am testing a small "/P" 
antenna similar to what G3CWI proposed to use a couple of weeks back. It is 
a 9m high "umbrella" with 4 x 5m long top loading wires sloping at about 
45degrees. Ground system is 4 x 20m radial wires.

The beacon is transmitting an 8wpm CW identifier, followed by five 5 second 
dashes at reducing power levels in steps of 6dB. The maximum ERP is 
somewhere in the region of 100mW ERP. The sequence repeats every 2 mins 
roughly.

I'll leave it running until after dark at least - any reports would be very 
welcome.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
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My experiences in a surburban set up (Bartlesville  OK second QTH) are the s=
ame as Peters and others - some nice long 8ft earth rods spread out and abou=
t did most of the work, however empirically my QTH in Alaska (glacial morrai=
ne/clay and till) this did not work as well and I ended up with a large numb=
er of sort radials every few degress some 40m long (mostly for 80/160 gotta=20=
say), and a large earth mat of galvanised chicken wire covering an area of s=
ome 200ft x 100ft all interlaced. I know it rots but it worked well for a ye=
ar.

=20

In real terms, just with the sole aim at the time of increasing antennae cur=
rent, it was diminshing returns over the amount of effort/cost, and I seem t=
o recall I managed 21 ohms loss, most of which Im sure was environmental as=20=
I was in a cut out in Kincaid Park forest.

=20

 Looking back and what I know now I would have changes a few things in the a=
ntennae feed and earthing/matching arrangements too.

=20

When I left AK I pulled up (with some mechanical assistance) sections of the=
 galvanised mesh a length at a time and retuned and sure enough the losses i=
ncreased but very slowly...

=20

I did try 4 full size radials for 137kHz - all untuned and it did zip/nothin=
g to improve the situation.

=20

I did try earthing using a 200ft vertical well casing and this gave the exac=
t same antennae current as all the above. I didnt have a bridge at the time=20=
but which I had.

=20

Gotta say its every location is different and works well in some seems poor=20=
in others, but the general rule of as much in the air as high as possible, a=
way from lossy objects, and as much in the ground seems a reasonable assumpt=
ion, though Im now a little more concerned and thoughful about the reactance=
s involved and voltages present on them insulated radials now after reading=20=
Jims notes.

=20

I dont think Ill have to same problem back in AK in a few days as its got to=
 be a loop, again over glacial overlay/till and some larger rocks...Im more=20=
concerned over the fire hazard as its very very dry at the moment and a burn=
 ban in effect.

=20

Thanks for the work - all very thought provoking....

=20

Laurence BY3A KL1X

Teda China OM89UA

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My experiences in a surburban set up (Bartlesville&nbsp; OK second QTH) are=20=
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 about did most of the work, however empirically my QTH in Alaska (glacial m=
orraine/clay and till) this did not work as well and I ended up with a large=
 number of sort radials every few degress some 40m long (mostly for 80/160 g=
otta say), and a large earth mat of galvanised chicken wire covering an area=
 of some 200ft x 100ft all interlaced. I know it rots but it worked well for=
 a year.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
In real terms, just&nbsp;with the sole aim at the time of increasing antenna=
e current, it was diminshing returns over the amount of effort/cost, and I s=
eem to recall I managed 21 ohms loss, most of which Im sure was environmenta=
l as I was in a cut out in Kincaid Park forest.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
&nbsp;Looking back and what I know now I would have changes a few things in=20=
the antennae feed and earthing/matching arrangements too.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
When I left AK I pulled up (with some mechanical assistance)&nbsp;sections o=
f the galvanised mesh a length at a time and retuned and sure enough the los=
ses increased but very slowly...<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
I did try 4&nbsp;full size radials for 137kHz&nbsp;- all untuned and it did=20=
zip/nothing to improve the situation.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
I did try earthing using a 200ft vertical well casing and this gave the exac=
t same antennae current as all the above. I didnt have a bridge at the time=20=
but which I had.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Gotta say its every location is different and works well in some seems poor=20=
in others, but the general rule of as much in the air as high as possible, a=
way from lossy objects, and as much in the ground seems a reasonable assumpt=
ion, though Im now a little more concerned and thoughful about the reactance=
s involved and voltages present on them insulated radials now after reading=20=
Jims notes.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
I dont think Ill have to same problem back in AK in a few days as its got to=
 be a loop, again over glacial overlay/till and some larger rocks...Im more=20=
concerned over the fire hazard as its very very dry at the moment and a burn=
 ban in effect.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Thanks for the work - all very thought provoking....<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Laurence BY3A KL1X<BR>
Teda China OM89UA<BR>
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> 1960.  One of the first receptions I heard was a transmission that kept
> repeating a message something like this:  This is a test transmission fo=
r
> circuit adjustment purposes.

Yes that was the only transmission I recall hearing from them.
It made me wonder why someone would put up a station just for 'circuit
adjustment purposes' and nothing else.
I wondered what kind of circuit would need such constant adjustment!
Looking back I suppose that they transmitted on several frequencies
simultaneously and the purpose of the constant transmissions was so
that the receiving stations could pick the best frequency for the
conditions.

--=20
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
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On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Dexter McIntyre W4DEX<dmcintyre@att.net>=
 wrote:
> My first short wave receiver was a Knight Kit Star Roamer I built around
> 1960. =A0One of the first receptions I heard was a transmission that kep=
t
> repeating a message something like this: =A0This is a test transmission=
 for
> circuit adjustment purposes. =A0This transmission originated form an off=
ice of
> the American Telephone and Telegraph Company and is located near White
> Plains New York. =A0I received this signal from time to time for many ye=
ars on
> several different frequencies. =A0Many years later while reminiscing abo=
ut our
> past radio experiences with a retired AT&T engineer I asked him about th=
e
> test transmission. =A0He recalled hearing the same signals which he beli=
eved
> was for the HF High Seas Radiotelephone Service. =A0I've never found any
> information about a White Plains site but there is some documentation on=
line
> about several other AT&T High Seas HF Radio locations.
>
> Dex
>
> mal hamilton wrote:
>>
>> I remember a radio station on HF SSB years ago WHITE PLAINS. Where is=
 that
>> located, somewhere in the USA.
>> De mal/g3kev
>>
>
>
>

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Many thanks Hugh for this documentation because its very difficult to find=
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it.
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F4DTL  Nicolas JN18FP
_http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/_ (http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/)=20

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=E9), =20
m0wye@radiouk.com a =E9crit :

Hi Roelof and Nicolas,
I have a manual, and your E-mail has spurred me on to finish scanning it=
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and put it on my web site.
you will find it here:
_http://www.qsl.net/m0wye/D2155/k2155man.htm_=20
(http://www.qsl.net/m0wye/D2155/k2155man.htm)=20
It is a curious format, 150mm x 220mm folded over in a plastic  wallet.
I do not have any circuit diagrams.
The manual contains 17 pieces of paper, there is an "A" side and a "B" =20
side. If there appear to be pages missing in my list, it is because they=
 were =20
blank and I didn't scan them.
=20
Some of the text was quite small to I had to keep the resolution high, =20
otherwise I would have made the files smaller. For a similar reason I have=
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used GIF format, which is better for text and diagrams, than jpg which is=
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better for photos.
I did try using Textbridge to do character recognition, but it was going=
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to take an awflly long time to proof read it and it destroyed the  formati=
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73
Hugh M0WYE



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Nicolas JN18FP<BR><A   href=3D"http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/">http://l=
fistes.erst.azerttyu.net/</A></B></FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 25/06/2009 22:52:45 Paris, Madrid (heure d'=
=E9t=E9),=20
m0wye@radiouk.com a =E9crit :</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 0px; MARGIN-LEFT: 0px"><FONT     style=
=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" color=3D#000000 size=3D2 face=3DArial>
  <DIV>Hi Roelof and Nicolas,</DIV>
  <DIV>I have a manual, and your E-mail has spurred me on to finish scanni=
ng it=20
  and put it on my web site.</DIV>
  <DIV>you will find it here:</DIV>
  <DIV><A title=3Dhttp://www.qsl.net/m0wye/D2155/k2155man.htm     href=3D"=
http://www.qsl.net/m0wye/D2155/k2155man.htm">http://www.qsl.net/m0wye/D215=
5/k2155man.htm</A></DIV>
  <DIV>It is a curious format, 150mm x 220mm folded over in a plastic=20
  wallet.</DIV>
  <DIV>I do not have any circuit diagrams.</DIV>
  <DIV>The manual contains 17 pieces of paper, there is an "A" side and a=
 "B"=20
  side. If there appear to be pages missing in my list, it is because they=
 were=20
  blank and I didn't scan them.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Some of the text was quite small to I had to keep the resolution hi=
gh,=20
  otherwise I would have made the files smaller. For a similar reason I ha=
ve=20
  used GIF format, which is better for text and diagrams, than jpg which=
 is=20
  better for photos.</DIV>
  <DIV>I did try using Textbridge to do character recognition, but it was=
 going=20
  to take an awflly long time to proof read it and it destroyed the=20
  formating.</DIV>
  <DIV>73</DIV>
  <DIV>Hugh M0WYE</DIV></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
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Hello all,

I have received a question from someone who owns a Siemens D2155 selective  
level meter.
I have owned one in the past, but it has move on to a good home and I am  
not able to check things anymore.

Does anyone now a source for the manual?

Does anyone know the type of the internal battery and the voltage and  
current rating?

Any help will be much appreciated.

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Graham, Lubos,

    Thank you for the comments, I'm not sure if sunspots are a good
thing at LF - might cause more geomagnetic disturbances which could
hurt propagation.
    The weather has been very bad here, storms, rain, humidity and no suns=
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    Not good for operating.

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73 Warren K2ORS
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2009/6/25 Lubos OK2BVG <bvgbob@hotmail.com>:
> Hello Warren, LF!
> That is FB news, thank you for it! I will apply for a new permission las=
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> 73!
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Dear LF Group,

Over the last few days I have been doing some experiments with ground 
systems with my LF/MF antenna. The purpose was partly to see whether it is 
possible to reduce the overall loss resistance significantly, but also to 
test out some convenient types of ground for antennas for portable 
operation, in particular radial wires. The antenna is currently a top-loaded 
vertical about 10m high, with about 80m in total of horizontal wires in a 
narrow, asymmetrical "Y" shape about 50m long, giving a capacitance at 136k 
of around 500pF, and around 580pF at at 500k due to the increased effect of 
the distributed inductance of the wires. As a reference, I used the normal 
ground system, consisting of 6 x 1m ground rods, distributed within a couple 
of metres of the base of the antenna tuners.

The measuring technique was to initially set the normal series loading coils 
to resonance at 136kHz and 502khz with the normal ground system, and then 
measure the antenna resistance between the "cold" end of the loading coil 
and ground with an RF bridge. The total loss resistance of the antenna 
(including the loading coils and the normal ground system) was 57ohms at 
136k and 24ohms at 502k. Then an alternative ground system was connected 
instead of the normal ground, the bridge re-tuned to measure the new 
resistance, and any change in reactance determined from the change in 
resonant frequency. The reactance measurement is only approximate, but good 
enough for these purposes. The bridge equipment was all battery operated, 
and sat on a wooden table, so had minimal effect on the impedance of the 
ground system. When I set up a similar antenna with similar ground rods in a 
field a while back, the loss resistance of the antenna was only about 8 ohms 
in total, so the component of the loss resistance due to the normal ground 
system is probably less than 8 ohms. The much higher total loss resistance 
is due mostly to the environmental factors affecting the antenna.

I first tried combinations of insulated radial wires laid on the ground, 
including 4 x 20m radials, 4 x 40m radials and 8 x 20m radials. It did not 
seem to matter much how the radials were laid out, whether underneath the 
top load wires or in completely different directions. Some had bends or 
doubled back - there is not really room at my QTH for 40m radials! Some were 
laid on the grass, others along the concrete driveway that runs down one 
side of the plot. None of this made more than a few ohms difference to the 
loss resistance, provided the wires were reasonably well spaced apart.  All 
configurations had significant capacitive reactance compared to the normal 
ground rods:

4 x 20m radials, 136k: R = 80ohm , X = -j466ohms
4x 20m radials, 502k: R = 28ohm, X = -j113ohms

4x 40m radials, 136k: R = 66ohms,  X = -j248ohms
4 x 40m radials, 502k, R = 25ohms, X = -j61ohms

8 x 20m radials, 136k: R = 62ohms, X = -j283ohms
8 x 20m radials, 502k: R = 23ohms, X = -j76ohms

So it would seem that having the total of 160m of wire as 8 shorter radials 
is slightly better than 4 longer ones as far a loss goes. I also tried 
elevating the radials above ground about 0.3m on lengths of cane:

8 x 20m radials, elevated, 136k: R = 80ohms, X = -j622ohms
8 x 20m radials, elevated, 502k: R = 23ohms, X = -j158ohms

The loss resistance at 502kHz is slightly reduced, but the extra capacitive 
reactance is now getting very high, especially at 136k. I tried adding a 
"metallic" ground connection by adding a 200mm long steel tent peg to the 
end of each radial, and driving it into the ground:

8 x 20m radial + ground spike, 136k: R = 80ohms, X = 0
8 x 20m radial + ground spike, 502k: R = 69ohms, X = -j11ohms

So this is effective at reducing the reactance, but does not help loss 
resistance; in fact, it leads to a drastic increase in loss at 502k.

Instead of insulated radials, I tried a 15m x 0.6m strip of wire mesh (a 
roll of chicken wire that was lying around), held down flat on the grass 
with bricks:

15m x 0.6m wire mesh, 136k: R = 82ohms, X = -j102ohms
15m x 0.6m wire mesh, 502k: R = 31ohms, X = -j9ohms

So in spite of  having a large area of metal in reasonable contact with the 
ground, there is still relatively high resistance, and some capacitive 
reactance. Since the insulated radials in general resulted in lower loss 
resistance, I tried insulating the wire mesh from the ground using polythene 
sheet:

15m x 0.6m wire mesh, insulated, 136k: R = 65ohms, X = -j320ohms
15m x 0.6m wire mesh, insulated, 502k: R = 26ohms, X = -j63ohms

Since the wire mesh would be quite a convenient earth system to use for an 
antenna over a paved area, or on rocky ground, I tried laying it on the 
concrete driveway:

15m x 0.6m wire mesh, on concrete, 136k: R = 57 ohms, X = -j320ohms
15m x 0.6m wire mesh, on concrete, 502k: R = 23 ohms, X = -j65ohms

The loss resistance is now as low as the normal ground rod system, although 
the reactance is higher.

Looking at these results, the ground rods win for the fixed station antenna. 
The ground here is a permanently wet clay soil, which is probably quite good 
for ground rods. They give practically the lowest loss resistance (a couple 
of the other ground systems give a marginally lower loss resistance at 502k, 
but in practice the actual resonant frequency was increased due to the 
additional reactance, and the loss resistance of the antenna decreases at 
higher frequency). The reactance is also lower. Most of the alternative 
ground systems effectively behave as capacitive coupling to ground, with 
significant capacitive reactance as well as some additional loss resistance. 
For the fixed station, if the ground system has a high reactance, most of 
the ground current will flow through the lower impedance path via TX 
chassis/mains earth, instead of the ground system. This is possibly why 
adding ground radials to an existing system often has no effect. One way 
round this would be to have an auxilliary tuning inductor connected between 
the ATU ground, and the ground radial sytem. You could tune the inductor for 
maximum RF current in the radials, or minimum current via the TX ground.

For portable antennas, it is often difficult to drive long ground rods into 
the earth. It seems that short ground spikes, like the tent pegs, or 
metallic conductors laid on the surface of the ground, do not make a very 
good ground connection. The insulated radial wire systems generally give the 
lower loss resistances for the antenna system, and are quite easy to set up. 
The effect of the unwanted ground system reactance for a portable station 
with no other earth connection is that the ground terminal of the ATU is not 
at ground potential, and so probably also the cases of all the station 
equipment. For 500kHz stations with fairly low power (say <1A antenna 
current or so), where reactance is quite low, this probably does not matter 
much so long as the equipment (and operator) are reasonably well insulated 
from ground. For a QRO 136kHz station, it is likely to be a different 
story - with 1kW I can get about 4A antenna current - if I was using the 8 x 
20m radials, the 283ohms reactance would mean the equipment ground would 
have more than 1kV of RF relative to ground! The capacitance of the 
insulated radials works out very roughly to 28pF per metre of wire, and one 
wants to make the total capacitance large enough to keep the voltage down to 
a reasonable level. More and longer radials would clearly be desirable, 
which are not really feasible in my garden, but might be quite easy at a /P 
location.

The insulated wire mesh ground required less area than the radial wires, and 
had low loss resistance with similar reactance, so could be quite promising, 
especially where the ground is already insulated; on concrete or tarmac for 
example.

Hopefully some time this summer, I will be able to borrow a field again, and 
do some further experiments with more space available.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU










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Hi Warren , LF ,

Just a short test at 01:35 !  ( but I saw it ! hi hi ......  )

73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

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Jim

The full power sequence is a solid s9 on the meter. I can hear all of 
the 5 second dashes - s8, s7,s5, s3 and s1 on meter. Rather peculiarly 
each of the dashes has long 'rounded' on and off keying edges sounding 
like deep QSB - but is not, it is on the transmission... The keying of 
beacon itself is a little soft but not so severe. The lowest power tone 
is just above my noise level - 30dB down on 100mw = 0.1mW?.

In Bracknell IO91PJ

73 Dave G3YMC

On 9 Jun 2009 at 20:48, James Moritz wrote:

> Dear LF Group,
> 
> As art of continuing investigations into antennas, grounds, etc., I am
> running a beacon at the moment on 503.5kHz - I am testing a small "/P"
> antenna similar to what G3CWI proposed to use a couple of weeks back. It
> is a 9m high "umbrella" with 4 x 5m long top loading wires sloping at
> about 45degrees. Ground system is 4 x 20m radial wires.
> 
> The beacon is transmitting an 8wpm CW identifier, followed by five 5
> second dashes at reducing power levels in steps of 6dB. The maximum ERP
> is somewhere in the region of 100mW ERP. The sequence repeats every 2
> mins roughly.
> 
> I'll leave it running until after dark at least - any reports would be
> very welcome.
> 
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU 
> 
> 


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A very interesting set of experiments Jim.

I also found  that long copper rods driven into the found as deep as you 
can get them worked best for 73 and 136kHz and that radials in a 
suburban environment were not much good at all. 
However, I did some experiments on 73kHz at Amberley museum some years 
ago. This QTH was once a chalk quarry and I found it impossible to get a 
ground stake earth in chalk to work. I finished up using a single 
counterpoise 300m long just lying on the ground. To get it to work I 
used a loading coil just like the one used for the antenna itself, which 
was also about 300m long strung across the a valley created by the 
mining activity. Both coils and the matching transformer were adjusted 
for maximum antenna current.

Interestingly, a Tesla coil group set up a series of serious Tesla coils 
at the museum for a demonstration and they had make a buried earth mat 
arrangement for the large coils. The largest one, which gave spark 
discharge over a metre long was driven by a RF arrangement at 70kHz. I 
checked the signal using the TS850 with a short antenna in my vehicle 
located around 80m distant from the coil - and heard nothing. This 
surprised me - I was expecting a very large signal.

Regards

Peter, G3LDO


> Over the last few days I have been doing some experiments with ground 
> systems with my LF/MF antenna. The purpose was partly to see whether 
> it is possible to reduce the overall loss resistance significantly, 
> but also to test out some convenient types of ground for antennas for 
> portable operation, in particular radial wires. The antenna is 
> currently a top-loaded vertical about 10m high, with about 80m in 
> total of horizontal wires in a narrow, asymmetrical "Y" shape about 
> 50m long, giving a capacitance at 136k of around 500pF, and around 
> 580pF at at 500k due to the increased effect of the distributed 
> inductance of the wires. As a reference, I used the normal ground 
> system, consisting of 6 x 1m ground rods, distributed within a couple 
> of metres of the base of the antenna tuners.
>
> The measuring technique was to initially set the normal series loading 
> coils to resonance at 136kHz and 502khz with the normal ground system, 
> and then measure the antenna resistance between the "cold" end of the 
> loading coil and ground with an RF bridge. The total loss resistance 
> of the antenna (including the loading coils and the normal ground 
> system) was 57ohms at 136k and 24ohms at 502k. Then an alternative 
> ground system was connected instead of the normal ground, the bridge 
> re-tuned to measure the new resistance, and any change in reactance 
> determined from the change in resonant frequency. The reactance 
> measurement is only approximate, but good enough for these purposes. 
> The bridge equipment was all battery operated, and sat on a wooden 
> table, so had minimal effect on the impedance of the ground system. 
> When I set up a similar antenna with similar ground rods in a field a 
> while back, the loss resistance of the antenna was only about 8 ohms 
> in total, so the component of the loss resistance due to the normal 
> ground system is probably less than 8 ohms. The much higher total loss 
> resistance is due mostly to the environmental factors affecting the 
> antenna.
>
> I first tried combinations of insulated radial wires laid on the 
> ground, including 4 x 20m radials, 4 x 40m radials and 8 x 20m 
> radials. It did not seem to matter much how the radials were laid out, 
> whether underneath the top load wires or in completely different 
> directions. Some had bends or doubled back - there is not really room 
> at my QTH for 40m radials! Some were laid on the grass, others along 
> the concrete driveway that runs down one side of the plot. None of 
> this made more than a few ohms difference to the loss resistance, 
> provided the wires were reasonably well spaced apart.  All 
> configurations had significant capacitive reactance compared to the 
> normal ground rods:
>
> 4 x 20m radials, 136k: R = 80ohm , X = -j466ohms
> 4x 20m radials, 502k: R = 28ohm, X = -j113ohms
>
> 4x 40m radials, 136k: R = 66ohms,  X = -j248ohms
> 4 x 40m radials, 502k, R = 25ohms, X = -j61ohms
>
> 8 x 20m radials, 136k: R = 62ohms, X = -j283ohms
> 8 x 20m radials, 502k: R = 23ohms, X = -j76ohms
>
> So it would seem that having the total of 160m of wire as 8 shorter 
> radials is slightly better than 4 longer ones as far a loss goes. I 
> also tried elevating the radials above ground about 0.3m on lengths of 
> cane:
>
> 8 x 20m radials, elevated, 136k: R = 80ohms, X = -j622ohms
> 8 x 20m radials, elevated, 502k: R = 23ohms, X = -j158ohms
>
> The loss resistance at 502kHz is slightly reduced, but the extra 
> capacitive reactance is now getting very high, especially at 136k. I 
> tried adding a "metallic" ground connection by adding a 200mm long 
> steel tent peg to the end of each radial, and driving it into the ground:
>
> 8 x 20m radial + ground spike, 136k: R = 80ohms, X = 0
> 8 x 20m radial + ground spike, 502k: R = 69ohms, X = -j11ohms
>
> So this is effective at reducing the reactance, but does not help loss 
> resistance; in fact, it leads to a drastic increase in loss at 502k.
>
> Instead of insulated radials, I tried a 15m x 0.6m strip of wire mesh 
> (a roll of chicken wire that was lying around), held down flat on the 
> grass with bricks:
>
> 15m x 0.6m wire mesh, 136k: R = 82ohms, X = -j102ohms
> 15m x 0.6m wire mesh, 502k: R = 31ohms, X = -j9ohms
>
> So in spite of  having a large area of metal in reasonable contact 
> with the ground, there is still relatively high resistance, and some 
> capacitive reactance. Since the insulated radials in general resulted 
> in lower loss resistance, I tried insulating the wire mesh from the 
> ground using polythene sheet:
>
> 15m x 0.6m wire mesh, insulated, 136k: R = 65ohms, X = -j320ohms
> 15m x 0.6m wire mesh, insulated, 502k: R = 26ohms, X = -j63ohms
>
> Since the wire mesh would be quite a convenient earth system to use 
> for an antenna over a paved area, or on rocky ground, I tried laying 
> it on the concrete driveway:
>
> 15m x 0.6m wire mesh, on concrete, 136k: R = 57 ohms, X = -j320ohms
> 15m x 0.6m wire mesh, on concrete, 502k: R = 23 ohms, X = -j65ohms
>
> The loss resistance is now as low as the normal ground rod system, 
> although the reactance is higher.
>
> Looking at these results, the ground rods win for the fixed station 
> antenna. The ground here is a permanently wet clay soil, which is 
> probably quite good for ground rods. They give practically the lowest 
> loss resistance (a couple of the other ground systems give a 
> marginally lower loss resistance at 502k, but in practice the actual 
> resonant frequency was increased due to the additional reactance, and 
> the loss resistance of the antenna decreases at higher frequency). The 
> reactance is also lower. Most of the alternative ground systems 
> effectively behave as capacitive coupling to ground, with significant 
> capacitive reactance as well as some additional loss resistance. For 
> the fixed station, if the ground system has a high reactance, most of 
> the ground current will flow through the lower impedance path via TX 
> chassis/mains earth, instead of the ground system. This is possibly 
> why adding ground radials to an existing system often has no effect. 
> One way round this would be to have an auxilliary tuning inductor 
> connected between the ATU ground, and the ground radial sytem. You 
> could tune the inductor for maximum RF current in the radials, or 
> minimum current via the TX ground.
>
> For portable antennas, it is often difficult to drive long ground rods 
> into the earth. It seems that short ground spikes, like the tent pegs, 
> or metallic conductors laid on the surface of the ground, do not make 
> a very good ground connection. The insulated radial wire systems 
> generally give the lower loss resistances for the antenna system, and 
> are quite easy to set up. The effect of the unwanted ground system 
> reactance for a portable station with no other earth connection is 
> that the ground terminal of the ATU is not at ground potential, and so 
> probably also the cases of all the station equipment. For 500kHz 
> stations with fairly low power (say <1A antenna current or so), where 
> reactance is quite low, this probably does not matter much so long as 
> the equipment (and operator) are reasonably well insulated from 
> ground. For a QRO 136kHz station, it is likely to be a different story 
> - with 1kW I can get about 4A antenna current - if I was using the 8 x 
> 20m radials, the 283ohms reactance would mean the equipment ground 
> would have more than 1kV of RF relative to ground! The capacitance of 
> the insulated radials works out very roughly to 28pF per metre of 
> wire, and one wants to make the total capacitance large enough to keep 
> the voltage down to a reasonable level. More and longer radials would 
> clearly be desirable, which are not really feasible in my garden, but 
> might be quite easy at a /P location.
>
> The insulated wire mesh ground required less area than the radial 
> wires, and had low loss resistance with similar reactance, so could be 
> quite promising, especially where the ground is already insulated; on 
> concrete or tarmac for example.
>
> Hopefully some time this summer, I will be able to borrow a field 
> again, and do some further experiments with more space available.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>



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Thanks Dave for this info!!

> G3XIZ is in CW QSO with GW3UEP right now (2103z,)on 502.3 and 501.1 kHz
> (Check the G3YXM grabber on www.wireless.org.uk
> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM

Unfortunately nothing heard here in Berlin.
But one hour ago there wasn't even anything audible from DI2AM, which is 

Now, one and a half hour later, 22:40Z, propagation does improve, local people switch off their home electronics, and things get better.
DI2AM peaking 539 now.

I would give it a try again now, 
but prefer to sleep after 00:00Z.

vy73
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Hello all!

I have set up a selectivel level meter (HP) as a LOFER-rx. I can see the
modulation of DCF39 very well but I never receiced any other signal.

So I would need a station close to me (JN88HL) who can transmit on a
predifined qrg (137.7 ?) at a scheduled time to see if my RX is
sensitive enough.

I've spent half of last night staring at the screen but didn't see
anything but the dcf39.....

When i connect the level generator set to -50dbm to some meters of wire,
i can see a clear line on the spectro but i'm not sure if that
sensitivity is enough for real signals...

So if anybody is planning activity on 137 for today, please let me know.

Tnx and 73

de OE3GHB

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Dear Gerhard, Nicolas, Jean-Pierre,

Thanks for the reports - the beacon is now QRT at 1530utc. I will try again 
later when it begins to get dark at around 2000utc for a few hours - I 
expect signal levels will be higher after dark, but so will be QRN, of 
course.

OE3GHB wrote:
>
> I'm using my shortwave-antenna, a 55m long endfed wire in about 12m
> height as antenna for lf. it's connected to the unsymmetrical input of
> the Selective Level Meter. I think using this antenna is the first
> problem. Another one ist that I don't have a preamp yet.

The signal level from that antenna will be much higher if it is tuned to 
resonance, which could be done with an adjustable series inductance of a few 
mH, or, for RX-only, with a fixed inductance in series with the RX input and 
a variable capacitor connected between antenna and ground to make a simple L 
matching network. A long-wave ferrite rod antenna would work for the 
inductor in this case. This will give very sharp selectivity, and an 
increase in signal level of 20 - 30dB, so a preamp should not be neccessary.

>The 2nd antenna
> is a resonant frame antenna with about 1m diameter. Unfortunately I
> haven't managed to bring it outside somehow and so I'm using it in the
> shack which gives me a lot of QRM, especially from the tube-monitor
> (n*75Hz vert. frequenzy).

Usually, such an antenna must be distant from mains electrical wiring to 
achieve a low QRM level, so usually has to be outside to work well. But, if 
you can find a good position, it will achieve 30dB or more rejection of 
unwanted signals if the null direction is adjusted carefully. This would 
help with the QRM from DCF39, if directions are favourable.

> The Level Meter only has a 22Hz and a 3.1khz filter. I just can use the
> 3.1 filter which gaves me lot of QRM from DCF39. I have tuned to 137.15
> becasue I found that this qrg is quiet (-107dbm) compared to some 100Hz
> up and down where the noise level is up to -92dbm. I think this noise is
> produced by the carrier of DCF39 somehow.
>
The DCF39 sidebands have maxima and minima across the band , due to the 
spectrum of the FSK modulation used. I guess in OE, similar sidebands from 
HGA22 could also be a problem. I can transmit on 137.15k, or another 
frequency with a low noise level if you prefer - let me know.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU



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Dear All

Went QRT shortly after start due to S9+20 local QRN.  Need to do some
detective work to find cause. Prob a SMPS or neighbours PLT  Will power down
mains on house when XYL is at work and do process of elim. 

Will hopefully be back on tonight. 

Nice set up there Pedro!!  Envious!


With best regards
 
Dr. James Cowburn  G7NKS



-----Original Message-----
From: Pedro M.J. Wyns (netbook) [mailto:pedro.wyns@telenet.be] 
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Subject: Re: G7NKS active on 503.4 cw /ON7WP

just switched off my beacon to upgrade the PC with some spectrum analysis
software.

First tests on this end, picture enclosed

About 100W into 40m vertical.  3A antenna current.  New toy for daddy
here...



James Moritz schreef:
> Dear Jim, LF Group,
>
> Nil copy so far on 503.4kHz... But I seem to be hearing ON7WP on 
> 503.0kHz, RST 229. The signal is extremely weak, probably because it 
> is in the null of the antenna I am using to cancel the local QRM - 
> others will probably be able to hear it better than me. The sinal now 
> seems to have disappeared at 2055utc
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Cowburn" 
> <james.cowburn@virgin.net>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 8:49 PM
> Subject: LF: G7NKS active on 503.4 cw
>
>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> On new ant and ATU system tonight on 503.4kHz signing "CQ test de 
>> G7NKS" at
>> approx 7wpm
>>
>> thnks for any reports
>>
>>
>> With best regards
>>
>>
>> Jim G7NKS
>>
>
>
>




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Hi LF & SAQ,

 

Transmission at 1200utc was 100% copy although not too strong at RST 519.

 

Using Mini-Whip at 9mtrs & JRC NRD-345 receiver, external audio filter set
at 100Hz to help reduce static crashes.

 

73,

 

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You seem to have got it working now (22:30a)
Andy  G4JNT
wobbleU cubed .g4jnt.kom


2009/6/30 Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>

> Andy, LF,
>
> Unable to restart the 503.7kHz grabber at the moment due to usb sound card
> failure.
>
> Will be on as soon as a replacement card is available.
>
> 73
>
> Gary - G4WGT.
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Andy Talbot
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> My beacon on 503.7kHz is back on.  04/19/34/49 minutes past the hour
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You seem to have got it working now (22:30a)<br clear=3D"all">Andy =A0G4JN=
T<br>wobbleU cubed .g4jnt.kom<br><br><br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/6/30 Gary - G4WGT <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a=
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start the 503.7kHz grabber at the moment due to usb sound card<br>failure.=
<br>
<br>Will be on as soon as a replacement card is available.<br><br>73<br><b=
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Subject: LF: 503.7kHz - its back<br><br>My beacon on 503.7kHz is back on.=
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Hello Henny , Warren ,

Last night , the grabber could not charge the ftp ( failure connection
Internet ) , but the capures are stored in the PC .
Good copy of WD2XGJ (01:30 =3D> 03:30) to see united pictures .

73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

henny van elst a =E9crit :
> Hi Warren,Lf
> Nice copy XGJ
> Henny pa3cpm
> best 73s
>  =20


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Hi Roelof and Nicolas,
I have a manual, and your E-mail has spurred me on to finish scanning=
 it and put it on my web site.
you will find it here:
http://www.qsl.net/m0wye/D2155/k2155man.htm
It is a curious format, 150mm x 220mm folded over in a plastic wallet.
I do not have any circuit diagrams.
The manual contains 17 pieces of paper, there is an "A" side and a "B"=
 side. If there appear to be pages missing in my list, it is because=
 they were blank and I didn't scan them.

Some of the text was quite small to I had to keep the resolution high,=
 otherwise I would have made the files smaller. For a similar reason=
 I have used GIF format, which is better for text and diagrams, than=
 jpg which is better for photos.
I did try using Textbridge to do character recognition, but it was goi=
ng to take an awflly long time to proof read it and it destroyed the=
 formating.
73
Hugh M0WYE

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: F4DTL@aol.com=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 5:00 PM
  Subject: Re: LF: Siemens D2155


  Hello Roelof, I have a D2155 selective level meter with the W3155 tr=
acking oscillator, I have no documentation but the battery is of 12V=
 7A

  Best regards F4DTL Nicolas


  Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 25/06/2009 17:49:05 Paris, Madrid (heure d'=
=E9t=E9), roelof@ndb.demon.nl a =E9crit :
    Hello all,

    I have received a question from someone who owns a Siemens D2155=
 selective =20
    level meter.
    I have owned one in the past, but it has move on to a good home an=
d I am =20
    not able to check things anymore.

    Does anyone now a source for the manual?

    Does anyone know the type of the internal battery and the voltage=
 and =20
    current rating?

    Any help will be much appreciated.

    Best regards,
    Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt


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<DIV>Hi Roelof and Nicolas,</DIV>
<DIV>I have a manual, and your E-mail has spurred me on to finish scan=
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and put it on my web site.</DIV>
<DIV>you will find it here:</DIV>
<DIV><A   href=3D"http://www.qsl.net/m0wye/D2155/k2155man.htm">http://=
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<DIV>It is a curious format, 150mm x 220mm folded over in a plastic=20
wallet.</DIV>
<DIV>I do not have any circuit diagrams.</DIV>
<DIV>The manual contains 17 pieces of paper, there is an "A" side and=
 a "B"=20
side. If there appear to be pages missing in my list, it is because th=
ey were=20
blank and I didn't scan them.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Some of the text was quite small to I had to keep the resolution=
 high,=20
otherwise I would have made the files smaller. For a similar reason I=
 have used=20
GIF format, which is better for text and diagrams, than jpg which is=
 better for=20
photos.</DIV>
<DIV>I did try using Textbridge to do character recognition, but it wa=
s going to=20
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<DIV>73</DIV>
<DIV>Hugh M0WYE</DIV>
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  <DIV>Hello Roelof, I have a D2155 selective&nbsp;level meter&nbsp;wi=
th=20
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  <DIV><STRONG>Best regards F4DTL Nicolas</STRONG></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 25/06/2009 17:49:05 Paris, Madrid (heu=
re d'=E9t=E9),=20
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73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

Quoting James Moritz <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>:

> Dear Gerhard, LF Group,
>
> The beacon is now running again at 2000utc, as before in DFCW mode centered
> on 137.680kHz. I will leave it running for a few hours at least. It is still
> quite light here, so I expect signal levels will increase over time. As
> expected, QRN has increased, too...
>
> Any reports very welcome,
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
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>
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Yes Hugh
I am able to get the info but I thought there might be a more direct 
approach.
Maybe a pdf file
73 and tnx mal/g3kev

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Hugh_m0wye" <m0wye@radiouk.com>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 11:44 AM
Subject: Re: LF: Siemens D2155


> Hi Mal,
> If your Microsoft Windows is the same as mine (XP or Vista) then when the
> mouse pointer is hovered over the small picture it will turn into a little
> magnifying glass and when you click it, it goes back to full size, with
> scroll-bars to move around the image.
> But I suggest you save the files to your hard disk and bring them into a
> drawing program or word processor and look at them / print them in that if
> you still have a problem. Windows XP has a very good Wizard for printing
> pictures, and Image Preview can save the GIF files into a wide range of
> other file types.
>
> You will appreciate that the files are about 3Mbytes each and so if it was
> all one file it would be about 100Megabytes - it took best part of half an
> hour to up-load on broadband as it was.
>
> In my e-mail I explained that I tried to reduce to size, but it all takes
> time and I wanted to get it up on the web as quickly as possible to 
> benefit
> Roelof.
>
> 73
> Hugh M0WYE
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "mal hamilton" <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 11:15 AM
> Subject: Re: LF: Siemens D2155
>
>
> Hi  Hugh
> I have a D2155 but cannot read your manual properly. It jumps from large 
> to
> small print after a few secs. Can u send the manual as one doc instead of
> lots of separate pages.
> de mal/g3kev
>
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: Hugh M0WYE
>  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>  Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 9:50 PM
>  Subject: Re: LF: Siemens D2155
>
>
>  Hi Roelof and Nicolas,
>  I have a manual, and your E-mail has spurred me on to finish scanning it
> and put it on my web site.
>  you will find it here:
>  http://www.qsl.net/m0wye/D2155/k2155man.htm
>  It is a curious format, 150mm x 220mm folded over in a plastic wallet.
>  I do not have any circuit diagrams.
>  The manual contains 17 pieces of paper, there is an "A" side and a "B"
> side. If there appear to be pages missing in my list, it is because they
> were blank and I didn't scan them.
>
>  Some of the text was quite small to I had to keep the resolution high,
> otherwise I would have made the files smaller. For a similar reason I have
> used GIF format, which is better for text and diagrams, than jpg which is
> better for photos.
>  I did try using Textbridge to do character recognition, but it was going
> to take an awflly long time to proof read it and it destroyed the 
> formating.
>  73
>  Hugh M0WYE
>
>    ----- Original Message ----- 
>    From: F4DTL@aol.com
>    To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>    Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 5:00 PM
>    Subject: Re: LF: Siemens D2155
>
>
>    Hello Roelof, I have a D2155 selective level meter with the W3155
> tracking oscillator, I have no documentation but the battery is of 12V 7A
>
>    Best regards F4DTL Nicolas
>
>
>    Dans un e-mail dat du 25/06/2009 17:49:05 Paris, Madrid (heure d't),
> roelof@ndb.demon.nl a crit :
>      Hello all,
>
>      I have received a question from someone who owns a Siemens D2155
> selective
>      level meter.
>      I have owned one in the past, but it has move on to a good home and I
> am
>      not able to check things anymore.
>
>      Does anyone now a source for the manual?
>
>      Does anyone know the type of the internal battery and the voltage and
>      current rating?
>
>      Any help will be much appreciated.
>
>      Best regards,
>      Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt
>
>
>
>
>
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Dave Pick wrote:
> Tim
>
> Yes, I use one all the time. The problem is usually the receiver, the 
> Wellbrook will easily overload even the best receivers with broadcast 
> signals as most don't have any front-end selectivity below 1.6MHz. Try 
> a 500kHz tuned circuit between the loop and the RX.
>
> Dave.
>
> 2009/6/10 tim hague <m0afj@dsl.pipex.com <mailto:m0afj@dsl.pipex.com>>
>
>     I've got a ALA 1530 Wellbrook Loop, is anyone using one of these
>     for 500kHz monitoring?, although I can hear NDB's nothing on 500kHz.
>
>     Tim M0AFJ
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK
Thanks Dave, I'll have a go, just for interest, how have you got yours 
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OK, Dennis, thanks! Have a nice day.

73! Lubos

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> Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 00:47:40 +0200
> From: Dennis.Hennig@gmx.de
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: LF: OK0EMW 13.VI.2009  late evening
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> Hi Lubos! 
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> Thanks for replying and for providing the signal :)
> Tonight beetween coming home and bedtime I tuned the RX to Your OK0EMW beacon as well:
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> QTH Berlin city JO62RM
> RX homemade simple superhet
> IF-bandwidth abt 150Hz
> ANT wireloop abt 15sqm, 
> 10m agl. in a linden tree
> "pointing Iceland" = NW/SE
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> OK0EMW observed 13.VI.2009 from 21:16Z - 22:36Z
> At the beginning of the 80min period rather a grass roots signal, disappearing in the noise, sometimes up RST 339.
> At the end of the observing time mostly a solid signal, RST say 559.
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OK, Dennis, thanks! Have a nice day.<br><br>73! Lubos<br><br>*********************************<br><br>&gt; Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 00:47:40 +0200<br>&gt; From: Dennis.Hennig@gmx.de<br>&gt; To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<br>&gt; Subject: LF: OK0EMW 13.VI.2009  late evening<br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; Hi Lubos! <br>&gt; <br>&gt; Thanks for replying and for providing the signal :)<br>&gt; Tonight beetween coming home and bedtime I tuned the RX to Your OK0EMW beacon as well:<br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; -----------------------------------------------------------<br>&gt; QTH Berlin city JO62RM<br>&gt; RX homemade simple superhet<br>&gt; IF-bandwidth abt 150Hz<br>&gt; ANT wireloop abt 15sqm, <br>&gt; 10m agl. in a linden tree<br>&gt; "pointing Iceland" = NW/SE<br>&gt; --------------------------------------------------------------<br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; OK0EMW observed 13.VI.2009 from 21:16Z - 22:36Z<br>&gt; At the beginning of the 80min period rather a grass roots signal, disappearing in the noise, sometimes up RST 339.<br>&gt; At the end of the observing time mostly a solid signal, RST say 559.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; vy73<br>&gt; Dennis<br>&gt; DL6NVC<br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; -- <br>&gt; GRATIS fr alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT!<br>&gt; Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01<br>&gt; <br><br /><hr />Pedvete svj styl pomoc zobrazen obrzk v Messenger. Prohldnte si je vechny. <a href='http://download.live.com/messenger' target='_new'>Klikni zde!</a></body>
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Hi Dave

Thanks for the reply.  It's my first attempt and antenna is not right yet,
it's a bit of a "chewing gum and sealing wax" job!!

I'll leave the rig running for an  hour or so.  I

I am using MCW mode off Digital master 780 with an Icom 735 feeding into a
home brew L with a home wound coil and matching unit.  I'm not overly
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Hi, Jim.

Nothing heard here yet...and no signals on the G3YXM grabber either, at the
moment.

I'll keep monitoring for a while.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor S E England.

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 Sorry but I meant 502.5KHz

Sending CQ Test on 5 mins cycles

Thanx for any reports

Jim G7NKS

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Dear All,

G7NKS active on 503KHz at 21.20 BST/20.20 UTC  sending CW @ 5wpm   "CQ Test
de G7NKS"

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Mal,

   My wife's cousin and family have already moved to the U.K., pity
that they are not hams though...
--=20
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
                WE2XEB/2
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2009/6/25 mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>:
> Warren
> Move to the UK the WX recently has been fb and OFCOM is user friendly
> regarding licences for LF and MF.
> De mal/g3kev
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Warren Ziegler" <wd2xgj@gmail.com>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 7:33 PM
> Subject: Re: LF: WD2XGJ
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> Graham, Lubos,
>
> =A0 Thank you for the comments, I'm not sure if sunspots are a good
> thing at LF - might cause more geomagnetic disturbances which could
> hurt propagation.
> =A0 The weather has been very bad here, storms, rain, humidity and no
> sunshine!
> =A0 Not good for operating.
>
> --
> 73 Warren K2ORS
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 WD2XGJ
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 WD2XSH/23
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 WE2XEB/2
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 WE2XGR/1
>
>
>
> 2009/6/25 Lubos OK2BVG <bvgbob@hotmail.com>:
>>
>> Hello Warren, LF!
>> That is FB news, thank you for it! I will apply for a new permission la=
st
>> month. I hope, that all will be OK. OK0EMW is on the air every night.=
 But
>> it
>> depens on the weather, of course.
>>
>> 73!
>>
>> Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS
>>
>> ************************************************
>>
>>> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 13:53:29 -0400
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>>> The FCC has just renewed WD2XGJ for another 5 years!
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>>> 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ
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Hi Dave, LF,

Thanks for your comments.

I thought that may be the case, I did some while ago make the mistake of
placing my e-mail address on my own web site. Then some one told me about
e-mail scanners which search for e-mail addresses on web sites, I removed my
references but too late.

I have had a lot of spam for a long while now but my Zone Alarm Internet
Security detects them & places them in a special folder & seems to disable
the links, so after checking if there are any valid ones I just delete the
e-mails. This latest issue just had me a bit worried that it could be more
serious but maybe not. I just hope that it will die down eventually but I
know the usual spam will keep on coming unless I change my e-mail address.

Cheers,

Gary.



-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dave Sergeant
Sent: 23 June 2009 18:59
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Subject: Re: LF: Off Topic - Spam mails.

On 23 Jun 2009 at 18:40, Gary - G4WGT wrote:

> This is a bit worrying, I am getting spam e-mails using my e-mail
> address (this one - g4wgt) as the source/return address. I have already
> had a post from some one in Germany querying the validity of the return
> mail address so many others must be getting them also.
> 
> 
> 
> Is there some way to resolve this issue, stop it happening or notify
> some authority or what-ever?

In a word, no....

Spammers often do choose innocent individuals as the 'from' address as 
their spam mails - they are not sent by you at all of course, rather by 
large numbers of infected machines all over the world which they hijack 
for their purposes. It is virtually impossible to trace exactly where 
the mails were actually sent, and even if you did you could do nothing. 
These attacks usually die down after a few days after the spammer has 
sent his particular run.

Best way though is to stop your email address getting to the spammers 
in the first place - NEVER open spam mails if you have allowed your 
email program to download remote graphics (that means the preview pane 
as well) as that will confirm your address is valid. Never put your 
email address on websites in the clear, and general take care on who 
you do give it to. Using a program such as Mailwasher to preview and 
delete the spam before it gets to your email program is a good idea as 
well (but do NOT use its 'bounce' feature as that makes your particular 
problem infinitely worse).

73 Dave G3YMC

http://www.davesergeant.com




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James Cowburn wrote:
> Dear All,
>  
> On new ant and ATU system tonight on 503.4kHz signing "CQ test de 
> G7NKS" at approx 7wpm
>  
> thnks for any reports
>
> <http://www.eset.com>
Nil here either by ear or with FFT system.

73

Richard
G3CWI



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Dear LF Group,

Just had a nice QSO with Finbar, this time as EI0CF - the first QSO I have 
had with a non-G station on 500kHz. Apparently, his and 7 other 500kHz 
permits for EI stations have been granted, so hope to hear from them soon. A 
few minutes ago (abt 2300utc)he was calling CQ for cross-band QSOs to 80m.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU



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Pedro. LF,

ON7WP QRS signal last night at 2135utc.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dave Sergeant
Sent: 13 June 2009 06:30
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: RE: ON7WP now testing on 503,000 kHz

I guess distance makes a big difference on 500kHz.

I was not in a position to call Pedro last night, but at 2030z ON7WP 
was 559 here in Bracknell IO91PJ. At 2100z he was peaking 579 on the 
meter. Solid copy by ear all the time. There seemed to be nobody else 
on the band to answer his CQs.

73 Dave G3YMC

On 12 Jun 2009 at 21:34, Richard Newstead wrote:

> Gary - G4WGT wrote:
> > Pedro, LF,
> >
> > Seeing some weak traces on 503 kHz, it may be ON7WP ??
> >
> >   
> >
> 
> 2030z the cw is now audible and readable by ear here. Weak at present.
> 
> 73
> 
> Richard
> G3CWI
> 
> 


http://www.davesergeant.com


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  Hello Claude,your capture this morning.



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tu Markus,
best 73s
Henny pa3cpm
  ----- Original Message ----- 
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  Hello Henny,

  think I caught that on screen here as well, yesterday night around 22:00. Colour indicated northeast so possibly (UA4)WPF?

  Just saw your reply to DJ6GT's CQ. Heinz is calling often but he seems to have difficult receive conditions.

  Best 73
  Markus, DF6NM

    ----- Original Message ----- 
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    Hi,Lf
    Capture who?
    Henny pa3cpm
    best 73s
    Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
    captur who.jpg

    Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld. 


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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>tu Markus,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>best 73s</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Henny pa3cpm</FONT></DIV>
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  <A title=markusvester@aol.com href="mailto:markusvester@aol.com">Markus 
  Vester</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org     href="mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A> 
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  AM</DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: Re: captur who.jpg</DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hello Henny,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>think I&nbsp;caught that on screen here as well, 
  yesterday night around 22:00. Colour indicated northeast so possibly 
  (UA4)WPF?</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Just&nbsp;saw your reply to DJ6GT's 
  CQ.&nbsp;Heinz is&nbsp;calling often but&nbsp;he seems to have difficult 
  receive conditions.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Best 73</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Markus, DF6NM</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A       title=rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org       href="mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">blacksheep</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, June 06, 2009 10:47 
    AM</DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: captur who.jpg</DIV>
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    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi,Lf</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Capture who?</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Henny pa3cpm</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>best 73s</FONT></DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het 
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I use a 1530 as well, its mounted on a rotator about 2ft above ground level on a Barenco 
socket/spike. Works well 80m down to 500khz but being so close to the ground its a bit deaf 
above 80m as you would expect. My understanding is that for hf it should me mounted high up but 
for lf its better low down near the ground.

A rotator isn't really necessary as the beamwidth is quite broad but where I do find it useful is 
nulling out the local qrm, switch modes etc. 

>I can hear NDB's nothing on 500kHz
By NDB I assume you mean the 200/300khz variety so if you can hear them, 500khz shouldn't be 
a problem. I recent wspr activity on 500khz I found I could hear everything that others were 
hearing...at reduced strength of course, but then I don't have the room for "big gun" antennas 
here :-)

73
Trevor  G0KTN


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Dear Peter, Pete, LF Group,

Heard G3LDO calling CQ on 500kHz about RST 559, but could not establish a 
QSO using the small umbrella antenna. I did have better luck with M0FMT a 
little later, with 599 reports both ways.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU 



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mal hamilton wrote:
>  no one in QSO mode.


I called CQ several times. You are simply not trying hard enough.

73

Richard
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Hi, Jim.

I'm copying your beacon OK here at 20:30z

Measured signal levels (signal path includes a tuned pre-amp) are:-

beacon -63 dBm, -69 dBm, -77 dBm, -83 dBm, and the last dash is below the
noise level of -85 dBm.

The set up is a Mini-Whip on top of a 2.4m portable mast, tuned pre-amp and
SPM-30 with 1740 Hz bandwidth.
Intriguingly, the signal strength is much the same if I use my regular
transmiting 20m long "Tee" antenna at 5m instead of the MiniWhip.

If I turn my ADSL modem back on, the noise level jumps to -73 dBm.

What level of carrier power are you putting into the antenna?

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, S.E England

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Dear LF Group,

As art of continuing investigations into antennas, grounds, etc., I am
running a beacon at the moment on 503.5kHz - I am testing a small "/P"
antenna similar to what G3CWI proposed to use a couple of weeks back. It is
a 9m high "umbrella" with 4 x 5m long top loading wires sloping at about
45degrees. Ground system is 4 x 20m radial wires.

The beacon is transmitting an 8wpm CW identifier, followed by five 5 second
dashes at reducing power levels in steps of 6dB. The maximum ERP is
somewhere in the region of 100mW ERP. The sequence repeats every 2 mins
roughly.

I'll leave it running until after dark at least - any reports would be very
welcome.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU




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Good signal on 500 Khz band on CW beacon. Pse QSO mode
de mal/g3kev

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Mal,

that has nothing to do with the document (that in=20
fact is a series of gif pictures) but with the=20
settings of your browser that by default adjusts=20
the picture to fit in the screen.

Solution 1: buy a really BIG screen ;-)

Solution 2, move the mouse over the picture, now=20
a zoom glass should appear as cursor. Left-click=20
on the picture and it will be exposed in full glory.
for older IE versions: move the mouse to the=20
lower right corner of the picture (but still=20
within the picture) and click on the symbol that appears.

73, Rik  ON7YD


At 12:15 26/06/2009, you wrote:
>Hi  Hugh
>I have a D2155 but cannot read your manual=20
>properly. It jumps from large to small print=20
>after a few secs. Can u send the manual as one=20
>doc instead of lots of separate pages.
>de mal/g3kev
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <mailto:m0wye@radiouk.com>Hugh M0WYE
>To: <mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 9:50 PM
>Subject: Re: LF: Siemens D2155
>
>Hi Roelof and Nicolas,
>I have a manual, and your E-mail has spurred me=20
>on to finish scanning it and put it on my web site.
>you will find it here:
><http://www.qsl.net/m0wye/D2155/k2155man.htm>http://www.qsl.net/m0wye/D21=
55/k2155man.htm
>It is a curious format, 150mm x 220mm folded over in a plastic wallet.
>I do not have any circuit diagrams.
>The manual contains 17 pieces of paper, there is=20
>an "A" side and a "B" side. If there appear to=20
>be pages missing in my list, it is because they=20
>were blank and I didn't scan them.
>
>Some of the text was quite small to I had to=20
>keep the resolution high, otherwise I would have=20
>made the files smaller. For a similar reason I=20
>have used GIF format, which is better for text=20
>and diagrams, than jpg which is better for photos.
>I did try using Textbridge to do character=20
>recognition, but it was going to take an awflly=20
>long time to proof read it and it destroyed the formating.
>73
>Hugh M0WYE
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <mailto:F4DTL@aol.com>F4DTL@aol.com
>To: <mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 5:00 PM
>Subject: Re: LF: Siemens D2155
>
>Hello Roelof, I have a D2155 selective level=20
>meter with the W3155 tracking oscillator, I have=20
>no documentation but the battery is of 12V 7A
>
>Best regards F4DTL Nicolas
>
>
>Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 25/06/2009 17:49:05=20
>Paris, Madrid (heure d'=E9t=E9),=20
><mailto:roelof@ndb.demon.nl>roelof@ndb.demon.nl a =E9crit :
>Hello all,
>
>I have received a question from someone who owns a Siemens D2155 selectiv=
e
>level meter.
>I have owned one in the past, but it has move on to a good home and I am
>not able to check things anymore.
>
>Does anyone now a source for the manual?
>
>Does anyone know the type of the internal battery and the voltage and
>current rating?
>
>Any help will be much appreciated.
>
>Best regards,
>Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt
>
>
>
>
>----------
>
>No virus found in this incoming message.
>Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
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<body>
Mal,<br><br>
that has nothing to do with the document (that in fact is a series of gif
pictures) but with the settings of your browser that by default adjusts
the picture to fit in the screen.<br><br>
Solution 1: buy a really BIG screen ;-)<br><br>
Solution 2, move the mouse over the picture, now a zoom glass should
appear as cursor. Left-click on the picture and it will be exposed in
full glory.<br>
for older IE versions: move the mouse to the lower right corner of the
picture (but still within the picture) and click on the symbol that
appears.<br><br>
73, Rik&nbsp; ON7YD<br><br>
<br>
At 12:15 26/06/2009, you wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=3Dcite class=3Dcite cite=3D"">Hi&nbsp; Hugh<br>
I have a D2155 but cannot read your manual properly. It jumps from large
to small print after a few secs. Can u send the manual as one doc instead
of lots of separate pages.<br>
de mal/g3kev<br>
&nbsp;<br>

<dl>
<dd>----- Original Message ----- <br>

<dd>From:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:m0wye@radiouk.com">Hugh M0WYE</a> <br>

<dd>To:</b>
<a href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">
rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a> <br>

<dd>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 25, 2009 9:50 PM<br>

<dd>Subject:</b> Re: LF: Siemens D2155<br><br>

<dd>Hi Roelof and Nicolas,<br>

<dd>I have a manual, and your E-mail has spurred me on to finish scanning
it and put it on my web site.<br>

<dd>you will find it here:<br>

<dd><a href=3D"http://www.qsl.net/m0wye/D2155/k2155man.htm">
http://www.qsl.net/m0wye/D2155/k2155man.htm</a><br>

<dd>It is a curious format, 150mm x 220mm folded over in a plastic
wallet.<br>

<dd>I do not have any circuit diagrams.<br>

<dd>The manual contains 17 pieces of paper, there is an &quot;A&quot;
side and a &quot;B&quot; side. If there appear to be pages missing in my
list, it is because they were blank and I didn't scan them.<br>

<dd>&nbsp;<br>

<dd>Some of the text was quite small to I had to keep the resolution
high, otherwise I would have made the files smaller. For a similar reason
I have used GIF format, which is better for text and diagrams, than jpg
which is better for photos.<br>

<dd>I did try using Textbridge to do character recognition, but it was
going to take an awflly long time to proof read it and it destroyed the
formating.<br>

<dd>73<br>

<dd>Hugh M0WYE<br>

<dd>&nbsp;<br>

<dl>
<dd>----- Original Message ----- <br>

<dd>From:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:F4DTL@aol.com">F4DTL@aol.com</a> <br>

<dd>To:</b>
<a href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">
rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a> <br>

<dd>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 25, 2009 5:00 PM<br>

<dd>Subject:</b> Re: LF: Siemens D2155<br><br>

<dd><font size=3D2>Hello Roelof, I have a D2155 selective level meter with
the W3155 tracking oscillator, I have no documentation but the battery is
of 12V 7A<br>

<dd>&nbsp;<br>

<dd>Best regards F4DTL Nicolas<br>
</b>
<dd>&nbsp;<br>

<dd>&nbsp;<br>

<dd>Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 25/06/2009 17:49:05 Paris, Madrid (heure
d'=E9t=E9), <a href=3D"mailto:roelof@ndb.demon.nl">roelof@ndb.demon.nl</a>=
 a
=E9crit :<br>

<dl>
<dd>Hello all,<br><br>

<dd>I have received a question from someone who owns a Siemens D2155
selective&nbsp; <br>

<dd>level meter.<br>

<dd>I have owned one in the past, but it has move on to a good home and I
am&nbsp; <br>

<dd>not able to check things anymore.<br><br>

<dd>Does anyone now a source for the manual?<br><br>

<dd>Does anyone know the type of the internal battery and the voltage
and&nbsp; <br>

<dd>current rating?<br><br>

<dd>Any help will be much appreciated.<br><br>

<dd>Best regards,<br>

<dd>Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt<br><br>
</font>
</dl>
<dd>&nbsp;<br><br>

</dl><hr>
<br>

<dd>No virus found in this incoming message.<br>

<dd>Checked by AVG -
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EI0CF and GW3UEP both beaconing just above 501kHz.



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Rik Strobbe wrote:
> I just worked Finbar,
Wkd him at 2305z. He was 589 in heavy QRN.

73

Richard
G3CWI


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Pedro,

I have a VXO with a 4MHz ceramic resonator. That signal is divided by 
8. Range is 500.5 - 506kHz.
see
http://wireless.org.uk/500k_tx.gif
http://wireless.org.uk/qtx.htm

4MHz cer. resonators are available at less than 1 Euro in almost 
every electronic shop.

500kHz cer. resonators however could be interesting to build a sharp 
RX-input filter (cfr xtal ladder filter)

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T


At 14:50 15/06/2009, you wrote:
>Hello group,
>
>I just discovered that the European grossist for electronic parts has
>500 kc ceramic resonators in their range for less than half a Euro.
>this is a great building block for a tunable 500 kHz transmitter.  I
>ordered some for test purposes to see how far they can e pulled.
>Unfortunately they don't sell direct to customers, only to retailers.
>
>
>Pedro
>
>www.nedis.com



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Hello Pedro and team; LF

Now with sreenshot.....

Vy 73 de Gerhard  //  DK6NI  (JN59LN)

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-----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Beckmann, Gerhard [mailto:beckmann.erlangen@freenet.de]=20
Gesendet: Freitag, 12. Juni 2009 23:06
An: 'rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org'; 'leden1@on4aob.be'
Betreff: AW: ON7WP now testing on 503,000 kHz



Hello Pedro and team; LF

Your signal is clear audible in JN59LN now (449)

vy 73 de Gerhard  //  DK6NI

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-----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von Pedro M.J. Wyns
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Gesendet: Freitag, 12. Juni 2009 20:31
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; leden1@on4aob.be
Betreff: LF: ON7WP now testing on 503,000 kHz

test signal on air

reports appreciated on 3737 kHz (actually 3739 due to QRM...)

starting CQ for normal CW QSO on 19:00 utc and later

from 01:00 UTC CQ in QRSS 10

Pedro and team...



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I've got a ALA 1530 Wellbrook Loop, is anyone using one of these for 
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Hello Henny,

think I caught that on screen here as well, yesterday night around 22:00. Co=
lour indicated northeast so possibly (UA4)WPF?

Just saw your reply to DJ6GT's CQ. Heinz is calling often but he seems to ha=
ve difficult receive conditions.

Best 73
Markus, DF6NM

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  Hi,Lf
  Capture who?
  Henny pa3cpm
  best 73s
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Dear Markus, LF Group,

Thanks for the screen shot from Sunday night

> The appended clip shows four of your sequence repetitions, as seen in a 
> high resolution 21 mHz FFT - of course not readable but
> still showing consecutive dashes as a line in the upper trace and a gap in 
> the lower one. The emission appears to be phase coherent
> across symbols of the same type, but not across frequency switching. 
> Apparently the shift does not happen to be an exact integer
> multiple of the symbol rate, and after returning to the original frequency 
> the phase has lapsed by some amount.
>

The DFCW was generated, via sound-card output and transverter, by DL4YHF's 
Spectrum Lab "Digimode Terminal", set to 0.2 symbols/s and 2Hz shift. I 
think that would make some of the inter-symbol spaces 2.5s, so not an exact 
multiple of 0.2s maybe? I guess Wolf could confirm exactly how the phase is 
determined...

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU 



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OK May be thats what I used to hear Warren not VoA=A0.... if you hear some=
thing often enough it sticks in memory for a long time. =A0
=A0
73 petefmt

--- On Sun, 28/6/09, Warren Ziegler <wd2xgj@gmail.com> wrote:


From: Warren Ziegler <wd2xgj@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: LF: WHITE PLAINS
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Sunday, 28 June, 2009, 3:22 PM


> 1960.=A0 One of the first receptions I heard was a transmission that kep=
t
> repeating a message something like this:=A0 This is a test transmission=
 for
> circuit adjustment purposes.

Yes that was the only transmission I recall hearing from them.
It made me wonder why someone would put up a station just for 'circuit
adjustment purposes' and nothing else.
I wondered what kind of circuit would need such constant adjustment!
Looking back I suppose that they transmitted on several frequencies
simultaneously and the purpose of the constant transmissions was so
that the receiving stations could pick the best frequency for the
conditions.

--=20
73 Warren K2ORS
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 WD2XGJ
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 WD2XSH/23
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 WE2XEB/2
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 WE2XGR/1




On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Dexter McIntyre W4DEX<dmcintyre@att.net>=
 wrote:
> My first short wave receiver was a Knight Kit Star Roamer I built around
> 1960. =A0One of the first receptions I heard was a transmission that kep=
t
> repeating a message something like this: =A0This is a test transmission=
 for
> circuit adjustment purposes. =A0This transmission originated form an off=
ice of
> the American Telephone and Telegraph Company and is located near White
> Plains New York. =A0I received this signal from time to time for many ye=
ars on
> several different frequencies. =A0Many years later while reminiscing abo=
ut our
> past radio experiences with a retired AT&T engineer I asked him about th=
e
> test transmission. =A0He recalled hearing the same signals which he beli=
eved
> was for the HF High Seas Radiotelephone Service. =A0I've never found any
> information about a White Plains site but there is some documentation on=
line
> about several other AT&T High Seas HF Radio locations.
>
> Dex
>
> mal hamilton wrote:
>>
>> I remember a radio station on HF SSB years ago WHITE PLAINS. Where is=
 that
>> located, somewhere in the USA.
>> De mal/g3kev
>>
>
>
>




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<table cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" border=3D"0" ><tr><td valign=3D=
"top" style=3D"font: inherit;"><DIV>OK May be thats what I used to hear Wa=
rren not VoA&nbsp;.... if you hear something often enough it sticks in mem=
ory for a long time. &nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>73 petefmt<BR><BR>--- On <B>Sun, 28/6/09, Warren Ziegler <I>&lt;wd2xg=
j@gmail.com&gt;</I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT:=
 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><BR>From: Warren Ziegler &lt;wd2xgj@gmail.com&gt;<=
BR>Subject: Re: LF: WHITE PLAINS<BR>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR>Da=
te: Sunday, 28 June, 2009, 3:22 PM<BR><BR>
<DIV class=3DplainMail>&gt; 1960.&nbsp; One of the first receptions I hear=
d was a transmission that kept<BR>&gt; repeating a message something like=
 this:&nbsp; This is a test transmission for<BR>&gt; circuit adjustment pu=
rposes.<BR><BR>Yes that was the only transmission I recall hearing from th=
em.<BR>It made me wonder why someone would put up a station just for 'circ=
uit<BR>adjustment purposes' and nothing else.<BR>I wondered what kind of=
 circuit would need such constant adjustment!<BR>Looking back I suppose th=
at they transmitted on several frequencies<BR>simultaneously and the purpo=
se of the constant transmissions was so<BR>that the receiving stations cou=
ld pick the best frequency for the<BR>conditions.<BR><BR>-- <BR>73 Warren=
 K2ORS<BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; WD2XGJ<B=
R>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; WD2XSH/23<BR>&nb=
sp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; WE2XEB/2<BR>&nbsp; &n=
bsp; &nbsp;
 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; WE2XGR/1<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>On Sun, Ju=
n 28, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Dexter McIntyre W4DEX&lt;<A href=3D"http://uk.mc281=
.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3Ddmcintyre@att.net" ymailto=3D"mailto:dmcin=
tyre@att.net">dmcintyre@att.net</A>&gt; wrote:<BR>&gt; My first short wave=
 receiver was a Knight Kit Star Roamer I built around<BR>&gt; 1960. &nbsp;=
One of the first receptions I heard was a transmission that kept<BR>&gt;=
 repeating a message something like this: &nbsp;This is a test transmissio=
n for<BR>&gt; circuit adjustment purposes. &nbsp;This transmission origina=
ted form an office of<BR>&gt; the American Telephone and Telegraph Company=
 and is located near White<BR>&gt; Plains New York. &nbsp;I received this=
 signal from time to time for many years on<BR>&gt; several different freq=
uencies. &nbsp;Many years later while reminiscing about our<BR>&gt; past=
 radio experiences with a retired AT&amp;T engineer I asked him about the<=
BR>&gt; test
 transmission. &nbsp;He recalled hearing the same signals which he believe=
d<BR>&gt; was for the HF High Seas Radiotelephone Service. &nbsp;I've neve=
r found any<BR>&gt; information about a White Plains site but there is som=
e documentation online<BR>&gt; about several other AT&amp;T High Seas HF=
 Radio locations.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Dex<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; mal hamilton wrote:<=
BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; I remember a radio station on HF SSB years ago WHI=
TE PLAINS. Where is that<BR>&gt;&gt; located, somewhere in the USA.<BR>&gt=
;&gt; De mal/g3kev<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR><BR></DIV></BLOC=
KQUOTE></td></tr></table><br>



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Many thanx Claude for this first and nice contact with you.
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Hi!

After coming back home,  RX quickly rewired to
600m-operation, and then I enjoyed signals on 500kHz   :)
--------------------------------------------------------------
QTH Berlin city JO62RM
RX homemade simple superhet
IF-bandwidth abt. 150Hz or abt. 2,5kHz 
ANT wireloop abt. 15sqm, 10m agl. in a linden tree
„pointing Iceland“ = NW/SE
--------------------------------------------------------------
date 4.VI.2009
--------------------------------------------------------------
RX@SSB-Bandwidth
21:48Z – 21:57Z   SM6BHZ   43 SSB,  449 CW
--------------------------------------------------------------
RX@CW-Bandwidth
21:58Z – 22:00Z   SM6BHZ   549 fb
22:00Z – 22:01Z   SK6RUD   barely detectable by „interfering“ to local QRM
22:02Z – 22:04Z   DI2AM, OK0EMW 
        and all the others in the „beacon cluster“ around 505.1kHz: nil
22:04Z – 22:06Z   SM6BHZ   559 fb
22:06Z – 22:12Z   DI2AM, OK0EMW both peaking 339 qsb
22:13Z – 22:17Z   OK0EMW peak 459 fb
                  DI2AM 229 grassroots signal
        all the others in the „beacon cluster“ around 505.1kHz: nil
22:17Z – 22:18Z   SM6BHZ   559 fb
22:18Z – 22:23Z   OK0EMW 339 – 559 (22:20Z normal speed CW fb copied)
                  DI2AM  peaking 559 as well
        all the others in the „beacon cluster“ around 505.1kHz: nil
--------------------------------------------------------------
RX@SSB-Bandwidth again
22:27Z – 22:50Z   SM6BHZ  SSB 23 only fragments, CW 339  
              now much stronger local QRM,  
              so I gave up listening as it was no longer fun.
--------------------------------------------------------------
After typing this report, last receptions for tonight
RX@CW-Bandwidth
23:28Z – 00:39Z   SK6RUD   
             seriousely battling the local QRM, RST peak 459

00:40Z – 00:47Z   OK0EMW   549
                  DI2AM    549
--------------------------------------------------------------

Thank You all for the signals  :)
Unfortunately I missed Your qso,  Jim & Finbar.

Now I'd like to sleep...
vy73
Dennis 
DL6NVC




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WEBSDR is no good from what you have observed.
de G3KEV

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> Hello Richard, all,
>
> I did some 500kHz tests last night with the Twente websdr:
> - I cannot hear or see my own signal on the websdr (abt. 1W ERP,
> distance 200km)
> - While I heard G3KEV 599+ here I could not hear or see on Mal on the
> websdr (distance G3KEV-me = 510km, distance G3KEV-Twente = 540km)
> I guess a W3DZZ dipole is not the perfect antenna for 600m.
>
> The above is not meant to criticize the WEBSDR project of the Twente
> university (all respect for this masterpiece), just to inform that
> one shouldn't panic it your 500kHz signal doesn't show up.
>
> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
>
> At 22:29 18/06/2009, you wrote:
>>Amazing!
>>
>>I heard a couple of NDBs, "LAA" and "LI". You can also see what 
>>frequencies
>>the other users are using, which is interesting in a curious way!
>>
>>73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>>[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Richard Newstead
>>Sent: 18 June 2009 10:09
>>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>>Subject: LF: webSDR
>>
>>
>>Now covers LF/MF:
>>
>>http://websdr.ewi.utwente.nl:8901/
>>
>>73
>>
>>Richard
>>G3CWI
> DZZ
>
>


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Dear Gerhard, Rik, Jean-Pierre, LF Group,

Thanks for the reports - the beacon closed down at 0004utc.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
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My first short wave receiver was a Knight Kit Star Roamer I built around 
1960.  One of the first receptions I heard was a transmission that kept 
repeating a message something like this:  This is a test transmission 
for circuit adjustment purposes.  This transmission originated form an 
office of the American Telephone and Telegraph Company and is located 
near White Plains New York.  I received this signal from time to time 
for many years on several different frequencies.  Many years later while 
reminiscing about our past radio experiences with a retired AT&T 
engineer I asked him about the test transmission.  He recalled hearing 
the same signals which he believed was for the HF High Seas 
Radiotelephone Service.  I've never found any information about a White 
Plains site but there is some documentation online about several other 
AT&T High Seas HF Radio locations.

Dex

mal hamilton wrote:
> I remember a radio station on HF SSB years ago WHITE PLAINS. Where is 
> that located, somewhere in the USA.
> De mal/g3kev
>   



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I am of the opinion that the majority of LF and MF stations do not hav=
e suitable Receiving apparatus, probably the antenna is the weakness.=
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This applies also to GRABBER and a recent WEBSDR site.
There are a few stations doing very well on RX but these are RARE
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Just worked ON7WP on 503, 599+ both side (only 20km).
Pedro is still calling.
He is running 100W into a 40m high vertical (full size quarter wave  
for topband).

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T



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Dear Jim,

Visual trace with "Argo", but too weak to copy by ear. Screenshot attached.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor S E England.


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Hi, Jim.

Nothing heard here yet...and no signals on the G3YXM grabber either, at the
moment.

I'll keep monitoring for a while.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor S E England.

-----Original Message-----
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 Sorry but I meant 502.5KHz

Sending CQ Test on 5 mins cycles

Thanx for any reports

Jim G7NKS

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Dear All,

G7NKS active on 503KHz at 21.20 BST/20.20 UTC  sending CW @ 5wpm   "CQ Test
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Thanks for any reports


Jim



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Hello Warren , Lubos , Henny

Very good conditions at this beginning of summer! we are in the longest=20
days !
the night is very short between Warren and Lubos . Cheer , beautiful=20
capture of
Warren , Lubos ! ( JN88ks =3D> FN42hi =3D 6519 km )

73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

henny van elst a =E9crit :
 > Hi Warren,Lf
 > capture XGJ
 > Henny pa3cpm
 > 73s

Lubos OK2BVG a =E9crit :
 > Hello Warren, LF!
 > I saw XGJ signal this morning. Thanks for your transmitting,=20
receiving was very interesting!
 > Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS


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Hi John , LF ,
I copy your beacon last night ( see capture )
73 Jean-Pierre f1afj

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Hi Warren,Lf
capture XGJ
Henny pa3cpm
best 73s
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Warren,Lf</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>capture XGJ</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Henny pa3cpm</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>best 73s</FONT></DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het 
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Now covers LF/MF:

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Calling CQ on 136.7 Khz CW but no other CW acty hrd.
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Hello Jean-Pierre, LF!

I saw your signal between 21:20 / 21:50 UT. As you can
see, my RX was not perfectly stable at this time. It was started short time
before.

 

Well, I just woke up, so I am going to switch beacon
OK0EMW off and RX 137kHz on.

 

73! Lubos, OK2BVG
********************************
> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 22:54:17 +0200
> From: jpm.f1afj@online.fr
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: Re: LF: AFJ
> 
> Hi Lubos ,
> Thank you for the report , you receive my signal yesterday evening , or 
> this midday???
> I made test this night and this day .
> 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj
> 
> Lubos OK2BVG a crit :
> > Hello Jean-Pierre, LF!
> > Yes, I was surprised, the propagation was really good last night. I saw your DFCW signal UFB as well.
> >
> > GL and 73!
> >
> > Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS
> >
> > *********************************
> >
> >   
> >> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 13:25:17 +0200
> >> From: jpm.f1afj@online.fr
> >> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> >> Subject: Re: LF: XGJ
> >>
> >> Hello Warren , Lubos , Henny
> >>
> >> Very good conditions at this beginning of summer! we are in the longest 
> >> days !
> >> the night is very short between Warren and Lubos . Cheer , beautiful 
> >> capture of
> >> Warren , Lubos ! ( JN88ks => FN42hi = 6519 km )
> >>
> >> 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj
> >>
> >> henny van elst a crit :
> >>  > Hi Warren,Lf
> >>  > capture XGJ
> >>  > Henny pa3cpm
> >>  > 73s
> >>
> >> Lubos OK2BVG a crit :
> >>  > Hello Warren, LF!
> >>  > I saw XGJ signal this morning. Thanks for your transmitting, 
> >> receiving was very interesting!
> >>  > Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS
> >>
> >>
> >>     
> >
> > _________________________________________________________________
> > Pouvte Messenger? Pak tak pouvte Windows Live. Chcete vdt vc? 
> > http://www.windowslive.com/explore
> >   
> 

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<p class="MsoPlainText">Hello Jean-Pierre, LF!<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class="MsoPlainText">I saw your signal between 21:20 / 21:50 UT. As you can
see, my RX was not perfectly stable at this time. It was started short time
before.<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class="MsoPlainText">Well, I just woke up, so I am going to switch beacon
OK0EMW off and RX 137kHz on.<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class="MsoPlainText">73! Lubos, OK2BVG</p><br>********************************<br>&gt; Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 22:54:17 +0200<br>&gt; From: jpm.f1afj@online.fr<br>&gt; To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<br>&gt; Subject: Re: LF: AFJ<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Hi Lubos ,<br>&gt; Thank you for the report , you receive my signal yesterday evening , or <br>&gt; this midday???<br>&gt; I made test this night and this day .<br>&gt; 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Lubos OK2BVG a crit :<br>&gt; &gt; Hello Jean-Pierre, LF!<br>&gt; &gt; Yes, I was surprised, the propagation was really good last night. I saw your DFCW signal UFB as well.<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; GL and 73!<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; *********************************<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt;   <br>&gt; &gt;&gt; Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 13:25:17 +0200<br>&gt; &gt;&gt; From: jpm.f1afj@online.fr<br>&gt; &gt;&gt; To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<br>&gt; &gt;&gt; Subject: Re: LF: XGJ<br>&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>&gt; &gt;&gt; Hello Warren , Lubos , Henny<br>&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>&gt; &gt;&gt; Very good conditions at this beginning of summer! we are in the longest <br>&gt; &gt;&gt; days !<br>&gt; &gt;&gt; the night is very short between Warren and Lubos . Cheer , beautiful <br>&gt; &gt;&gt; capture of<br>&gt; &gt;&gt; Warren , Lubos ! ( JN88ks =&gt; FN42hi = 6519 km )<br>&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>&gt; &gt;&gt; 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj<br>&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>&gt; &gt;&gt; henny van elst a crit :<br>&gt; &gt;&gt;  &gt; Hi Warren,Lf<br>&gt; &gt;&gt;  &gt; capture XGJ<br>&gt; &gt;&gt;  &gt; Henny pa3cpm<br>&gt; &gt;&gt;  &gt; 73s<br>&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>&gt; &gt;&gt; Lubos OK2BVG a crit :<br>&gt; &gt;&gt;  &gt; Hello Warren, LF!<br>&gt; &gt;&gt;  &gt; I saw XGJ signal this morning. Thanks for your transmitting, <br>&gt; &gt;&gt; receiving was very interesting!<br>&gt; &gt;&gt;  &gt; Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS<br>&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>&gt; &gt;&gt;     <br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; _________________________________________________________________<br>
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Hi Jim

Many thnx. Was in Qso with Chris G3Xix. Not long range as he is also in
Biggleswade. 1st 600m Qso so dead chuffed! 

Just need to study up on antennas and matching so as to get more in the
ether and less cooking the finals

Jim G7NKS


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of James Moritz
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Dear Jim,

Just audible here, about RST 229 at about 2050utc on 502.65kHz.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU

----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 9:09 PM
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> Dear All,
>
> G7NKS active on 503KHz at 21.20 BST/20.20 UTC  sending CW @ 5wpm   "CQ 
> Test
> de G7NKS"



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Now on 501.5



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I am afraid not Gary, I have been seeing these and getting non-delivery
notices for years. I stopped signing my messages with my address when I
realised it was being harvested. Anyone can "forge" an email address
unfortunately which is why BT-Yahoo insists on Authentication being switched
on. Never put your email address on your web site in clickable form...use an
image. I made this mistake when i fiirst put my web site up in 2002.

Cheers de Alan G3NYK


----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
To: "LF -RSGB LF Group" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 6:40 PM
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> Hi All,
>
>
>
> This is a bit worrying, I am getting spam e-mails using my e-mail address
> (this one - g4wgt) as the source/return address. I have already had a post
> from some one in Germany querying the validity of the return mail address
so
> many others must be getting them also.
>
>
>
> Is there some way to resolve this issue, stop it happening or notify some
> authority or what-ever?
>
>
>
> 73,
>
>
>
> Gary - G4WGT - IO83QO.
>
>
>
>



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Dear Dave, Ken, Dave, Rik, Pete, LF Group,

Thanks for the reports on the beacon signal. If nothing else, it is at least 
a viable 500kHz TX antenna - as well as the reports, it is showing up 
reasonably well on the G3YXM and G4WGT grabbers. I have now closed down at 
2206utc.

The TX power was about 70W maximum, dropping to about 0.3W at the minimum 
power level. I haven't  done detailed measurements yet, but the loss 
resistance is about 70 - 80 ohms, and the antenna current just under an amp 
at maximum power. My "guesstimate" of ERP is 100mW at maximum power, down to 
0.4mW at the minimum level - I am allowing -6dB for the fact that the 
antenna is completely screened by the surrounding trees. The loss resistance 
is about 3 x that of my normal antenna, which has much more wire. The high 
resistance isn't a great suprise, as the ends of the top load wires are only 
a couple of metres from the trees and bushes. From previous experience, in 
an actual open /P location the loss resistance should be much lower, and the 
ERP significantly higher for a given antenna current.

The TX signal is a .wav file of CW and QRSS recorded from the "digimodes 
terminal" in Spectrum Lab, and played back through the linear transverter. 
The software generates a smoothly rounded raised-cosine keying envelope 
which minimises the bandwidth and results in the "soft" keying. The 5s 
dashes have a proportionally slower rise/fall - I left it with the default 
settings to see if anyone would notice, I think on balance a faster rising, 
sharper keying envelope would be better for a listening test. The variable 
power level was obtained by editing the audio level in the .wav file using 
some sound editing software.

As Rik observed, I did briefly operate last night as well - power was 
slightly lower then.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU






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bad capture , sry !

Hi Warren , LF ,

Just a short test at 01:20  ( many stormy last night )

73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj



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Many thank Lubos ,
73 Jean-Pierre f1afj

Lubos OK2BVG a =E9crit :
>
> Hello Jean-Pierre, LF!
>
> I saw your signal between 21:20 / 21:50 UT. As you can
> see, my RX was not perfectly stable at this time. It was started short tim=
e
> before.
>
> =20
>
> Well, I just woke up, so I am going to switch beacon
> OK0EMW off and RX 137kHz on.
>
> =20
>
> 73! Lubos, OK2BVG
> ********************************
>  =20
>> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 22:54:17 +0200
>> From: jpm.f1afj@online.fr
>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>> Subject: Re: LF: AFJ
>>
>> Hi Lubos ,
>> Thank you for the report , you receive my signal yesterday evening , or=20
>> this midday???
>> I made test this night and this day .
>> 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj
>>
>> Lubos OK2BVG a =E9crit :
>>    =20
>>> Hello Jean-Pierre, LF!
>>> Yes, I was surprised, the propagation was really good last night. I saw=20=
your DFCW signal UFB as well.
>>>
>>> GL and 73!
>>>
>>> Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS
>>>
>>> *********************************
>>>
>>>  =20
>>>      =20
>>>> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 13:25:17 +0200
>>>> From: jpm.f1afj@online.fr
>>>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>>>> Subject: Re: LF: XGJ
>>>>
>>>> Hello Warren , Lubos , Henny
>>>>
>>>> Very good conditions at this beginning of summer! we are in the longest=
=20
>>>> days !
>>>> the night is very short between Warren and Lubos . Cheer , beautiful=20
>>>> capture of
>>>> Warren , Lubos ! ( JN88ks =3D> FN42hi =3D 6519 km )
>>>>
>>>> 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj
>>>>
>>>> henny van elst a =E9crit :
>>>>  > Hi Warren,Lf
>>>>  > capture XGJ
>>>>  > Henny pa3cpm
>>>>  > 73s
>>>>
>>>> Lubos OK2BVG a =E9crit :
>>>>  > Hello Warren, LF!
>>>>  > I saw XGJ signal this morning. Thanks for your transmitting,=20
>>>> receiving was very interesting!
>>>>  > Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    =20
>>>>        =20
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Hi Warren,Lf
Nice copy XGJ
Henny pa3cpm
best 73s
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Warren,Lf</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Nice copy XGJ</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Henny pa3cpm</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>best 73s</FONT></DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het 
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Dear Peter,

thanks for your interesting mail.

One question regarding the general formula for radiation resistance:

In other places I found Rrad = 160*Pi^2*(Heff/lambda)^2 = 1579*(Heff/lambda)^2
whereas Zo*(2/3)*pi*(heff/lambda)^2 = 790*(Heff/lambda)^2

So there is a difference of a factor 2 (what looks very much like the 
perfect ground vs free space difference)

73, Rik  ON7YD

At 02:43 5/06/2009, you wrote:
>Rik Strobbe wrote:
>
>>
>>When I model a 11m high and 22m long lazy-L antenna (using 
>>MMANA-GAL) the modeling result seem to agree with theory: 0.027 Ohm 
>>at 137kHz and 0.359 Ohm at 502kHz.
>>But when I model a 10.5m high and 22m long loop, 0.5m above ground:
>>- 0.0013 Ohm at 137kHz and 0.033 Ohm at 502kHz, a ratio of only 25 
>>instead of the expected 180
>>- very different from the theoretical values: 0.00007 Ohm at 137kHz 
>>and 0.013 Ohm at 502kHz
>>- modeling in free space at 502kHz confirms the theoretical 0.013 
>>Ohm, but at 137kHz even in free space it is 0.0012 Ohm. If the 
>>claim that loop losses are not affected by the ground I would 
>>expect that the radiation resistance is not affected either.
>>
>>I guess MMANA-GAL is not suited for modeling very small loops, is 
>>there other software that can scope with this ?
>>Before going into the effort of putting op the loop I would like to 
>>have an idea of what to expect.
>>
>>73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
>>
>Dear Rick, LF group,
>years  before  reading your  present post  i  have found ,among 
>others, your review article  concerning LF antennae
>(btw, it  was  , and still is, a wonderful piece of  useful work 
>done upon this  subject)  In this article there was a formula
>giving  a theoretical estimate of  a radiation resistance of a small 
>loop. the  term 'small'  will be considered later..
>over the  past few years there were some (internet)  reports about 
>poor performance about  mmana especially
>when the 'real ground' option has been  switched on.  your present 
>post confirms  this issue but  which is more important
>and brings  my attention is the ' free space' performance  in the 
>case of low frequencies.
>so i decided to check out the  'theory'  behind the  formula  of
>rad.res. of  small loops
>
>from the very, very basic consideration of electromagnetic radiation
>one arrives with Johnson-Nyquist
>formula concernig the noise of carriers in a resistive medium i,e 
>"antenna'  which states that rad.res
>= Z(0)(2/3)pi(heff/lambda)^2 where Z(0) is an impedance of a free 
>space (377ohm) but which can be alternatively presented
>as 4pi10^-7 c where heff is an effective height of an antenna  and c 
>,velocity of light  which  , due to the units is 3 times 10^8 m/s)
>the so called 'effective height ' is a proprtionality factor between
>voltage induced in the antenna  due to the electric field .
>In the case of a SMALL  loop ( constant current ) simple 
>considerations due to the Farady law lead to its effective height as
>2piA/lambda , A is  loop area  ( single turn loop , air ).   Simple 
>math and we arrive to rad .res.as  320pi^4A^2/lambda^4
>as it is in your review. Rick, i did this 'check' because :
>a)  some aspects of my job are loosely connected with  electromagnetism
>b)  i like this sort of  ' brain recreation'   - 'play' with formulas, hi
>c) I  simply wanted to 'confirm'  this expression as being  derived 
>from the 'principles' i.e maxwell equations etcc.. and , first of all
>what assumptions, simplifications were made in order to get this. it 
>seems that  this expression is  strongly supported by 'principles'
>and considerations are ok.  let us go back to mmana performance .. 
>your mmana modelling  the loop at 502  kHz  in a free space
>  is consistent with theoretical  estimate  while  137 kHz  case 
> gives discrepancy.  Considering only the theoretical expression  of rad.res
>it just should be the opposite !  the loop is 'smaller' at 137  or 
>'bigger' at 502  in terms of a wavelength  :)
>Therefore, it must be  some sort of   intrinsic error in mmana 
>performance when going to lower frequencies  due rather
>to the method and not to the 'physics'  . mmana is based on  the 
>"method of  moments"  and may be it is the segmentation  issue
>which comes into play in the case of lower frequencies - those DM1, 
>DM2 parameters etc..
>I must admit i've never played with these parameters  - usually i  was
>opening one of the existing antennae files
>in the  samples  subdirectories and was using it as a starting point
>for  changing the geometries etc.. (but for HF so far..)
>
>                                                  yours, peter, sq7mpj
>qth: lodz , jo91rs
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