From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (rly-mg03.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.109]) by air-mg06.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMG062-a0349ba40f1230; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 07:18:24 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG035-a0349ba40f1230; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 07:18:11 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Li5Og-0001l0-HM for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 11:17:50 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Li5Og-0001kr-6l for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 11:17:50 +0000 Received: from simone.ucs.mun.ca ([134.153.232.77]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Li5Oe-0004jT-8d for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 11:17:50 +0000 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.232.153]) by simone.ucs.mun.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n2DBHeCY008195 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 13 Mar 2009 08:47:40 -0230 Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 08:47:40 -0230 (NDT) From: jcraig@mun.ca X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: henny van elst cc: blacksheep In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: 184khz Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Henny, LF Group. Sorry, but the beacon is off at the moment so that the 503.7 kHz signals from G4JNT can be monitored. Unfortunately, nothing seen so far. 73 Joe VO1NA Thanks for On Fri, 13 Mar 2009, henny van elst wrote: > hello LF, > Nil for Joe, > Henny cpm > 73s > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd07.mx.aol.com (rly-dd07.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.154]) by air-dd03.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDD032-b8b49bff9e225; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 15:29:04 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd07.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD075-b8b49bff9e225; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 15:28:36 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LjexW-0005y2-K8 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 19:28:18 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LjexW-0005xt-32 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 19:28:18 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.151] helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LjexU-0004c1-30 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 19:28:18 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3541.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 89B211C00082 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 20:28:10 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.15.9]) by mwinf3541.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id F131D1C00081 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 20:28:07 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20090317192807988.F131D1C00081@mwinf3541.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: References: <200903141634.37933.ve8rt@xplornet.com> <8bf118410903151024k69053f8cs345c4673ad93deec@mail.gmail.com> <200903151858.47737.ve8rt@xplornet.com> In-Reply-To: <200903151858.47737.ve8rt@xplornet.com> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 19:28:04 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8064.206 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8064.206 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Getting started, maybe Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Fine Ron, Well quite a lot of uk stations are running T or some form of top loaded vertical , with 35 feet vertical section, mine is in the form of a inverted L with 35 ft vertical, 40 turn/3inch top loading coil and 2 x 40 foot parallel ,capacity section, so your towers look to be fine ? what is the ground earth like , assume the lakes are fresh water ? 500 seems to be a funny frequency as theses small arrays appear to radiate quite well and distance/power looks good , 50 watts of mfsk prints well at 5/600 miles range A short 'long' wire may not work as well as you might think ..unless you can get the height , due mostly to ground capacity .. but if you can get 1000 mtrs out at fence height .. now that may do the trick (for rx) Andy's beacon is running 100 watts and looks to be reaching K4 land 4000 miles , you look to be 3600 miles so should be in range ? you could try loading up a T ,atu at the base and take a look on 503.7 , using the ral/plx software for the 5 meg project ? other beacons are about but are not 'timed' so need spec-lab, wsper or similar .. 73 , G .. Nb ... There has been a tv series showing the ice road truck's taking goods up the frozen lakes quite amazing to watch .... ! -------------------------------------------------- From: "Ron Thompson" Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 12:58 AM To: Subject: Re: LF: Getting started, maybe > > Hi Graham, > > my actual location is at postal code X1A 2H5 > > I'm in the company crew house at the float base. In the Google map for > the postal code, at the highest available satellite magnification, you > should > see floatplanes along the parking lot and then in a cove on the upper side > of > the parking lot is a yellow Cessna floatplane. The house just to the left > of > the floatplane is where I live. Unfortunately, as the house is in the > floatbase parking lot, there isn't any antenna space around it. What I do > have is two 15 metre towers spaced about 48 metres apart that I use for my > HF > antenna (it used to have a company commercial HF antenna before). Any > LF/MF > antenna must be compact and mountable either to the house or one of the > towers. Power lines are between the house and cove, which may be a noise > source. > > Ron > > On Sunday 15 March 2009 16:20, Graham wrote: >> I was looking on google earth ... looks to be a lot of sea planes about >> .. that would prevent any high mast ?? >> >> the location looks a bit tricky ......a low long wire may be good .. but >> can you get one out , looks to have roads all round ? >> >> G .. >> >> >> From: Dave Pick >> Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 5:24 PM >> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> Subject: Re: LF: Getting started, maybe >> >> >> Ron >> >> I would recommend a loop antenna, there are various designs around such >> as >> Jim M0BMU's design, http://www.wireless.org.uk/BPloops2.pdf Even though >> you're in the middle of nowhere there, you should stand a chance of >> getting >> some of the US 500kHz stations ( www.500kc.com ) going under the calls >> WD2XSH and WE2XGR with numerical suffixes identifying the individual >> stations. We in the UK have 10W ERP but it won't be easy to get right >> over >> to you... Maybe you could contact some of the US stations in the North >> and >> do some test with them first? >> >> Good luck! >> Dave G3YXM. >> >> 2009/3/14 Ron Thompson : >> > I've been reading the occasional posting to the list, wondering if I >> > could find some time and money to work with. As we do not yet have >> > licences for the 500KHz band, the best place to start would be setting >> > up >> > for receiving. > > -- > Ron Thompson, VE8RT > Yellowknife, NT, Canada > 62 28.060 N 114 20.648 W Grid Square DP22tl > "Who are are these that fly as a cloud, and as doves to their window?" Is > 60:8 > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.15/2003 - Release Date: 03/15/09 > 14:07:00 > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md03.mx.aol.com (rly-md03.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.141]) by air-md10.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMD102-8f249b409f0224; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 14:10:06 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md03.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD032-8f249b409f0224; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 14:09:54 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LgNRS-0000AH-C3 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 18:09:38 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LgNRR-0000A8-Rg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 18:09:37 +0000 Received: from fish2.hurontel.on.ca ([216.46.129.163]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LgNRQ-00077u-Jk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 18:09:37 +0000 Received: from weazle (pppoe.dyn-216.46.157.28.hurontel.on.ca [216.46.157.28]) by fish2.hurontel.on.ca (Spam Firewall) with SMTP id A713B86BD6C for ; Sun, 8 Mar 2009 14:09:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from weazle (pppoe.dyn-216.46.157.28.hurontel.on.ca [216.46.157.28]) by fish2.hurontel.on.ca with SMTP id ntUweEYUjhDlSt11 for ; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 14:09:27 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <000201c9a019$05129420$0b01a8c0@weazle> From: "J. B. Weazle McCreath" To: References: <1794381892.23372.1236524009509.JavaMail.mail@webmail03> <007f01c9a004$97057380$0900a8c0@AM> <49B40134.2020200@usa.net> Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 18:09:19 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: energy saving bulbs Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hello LFers, I've been using the CFL of the double helix variety for a number of years here with good results. I've not noted any increase in the "noise field" of my home, both in the shack and elsewhere, since I started using them. The ratio of light to power consumed makes them worthwhile, especially so in applications like my own where I produce some of my own power with a small wind turbine and PV array. In the shack I replaced 6 incandescent 60 watt bulbs with 6 of the CFLs rated at 15 watt each. I've got twice the light with 25% of the power needed to produce it, not a bad trade-off! As others have mentioned, I wouldn't install them where they are going to be turned on and off regularly, like in a closet, bathroom, etc., but in applications where they are turned on and left on for hours at a time, they are certainly worthwhile. 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL Solar and wind powered Lowfer " EAR" 188.830 EN93dr http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df06.mx.aol.com (rly-df06.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.19]) by air-df01.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDF014-55949bac4382ca; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 16:38:26 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df06.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF064-55949bac4382ca; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 16:38:18 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LiE8q-0004yQ-Rv for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 20:38:04 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LiE8q-0004yH-2i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 20:38:04 +0000 Received: from mail-bw0-f164.google.com ([209.85.218.164]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LiE8m-00051i-Pt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 20:38:04 +0000 Received: by bwz8 with SMTP id 8so3032605bwz.4 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 13:37:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=xTy+xmKYcni9VQC6MJAPF/GTrHpUJl7c6FaE+NKsjTM=; b=S688Nu5eMGSgZiagZvVNxzr8BUChrWE8BvJu36UPaWQ1Qpuwz4MTjkMu9xROuEfaFm WwiAIsI7lPMld7ICPiLOKHgkoyd8X5ZikDhWYRMOkU4KFglKPYDOr/zYLeaMzJJpxwPt au1SA3/gsr3WoGm+a/7/3IjrnMlx0C9/5g19M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=MNAQOMY4+Mdr6YIIsw6gI07yGsmfU429EzL8Dgchg/junqi7Kyr0SrvaKbbkmRQWJs 7zfG6CqFkvHPhwojEXAzpjfv/1CNJZsfhT2eok7cHyUcmRcHrVPLmbMPKCcRCWSng7sK xsz63bzwmAlGxOILlrnKC006/p4gize1zgogQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.56.4 with SMTP id w4mr497952bkg.25.1236976673252; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 13:37:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <76D5267D67914AA8851C33ECCF8AA856@DR2> References: <76D5267D67914AA8851C33ECCF8AA856@DR2> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 20:37:53 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: Multi-function beacon Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00504502bad0346530046506134e X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d290.2 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --00504502bad0346530046506134e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Its going continuously, although I suspect I'll have to turn it off when I'm not around such as weekday day times - unattended beacons are not permitted it seems! Certainly will be going all weekend. If you've set up logging, the file you specified will be in the default installation directory. Its a simple .txt file. Nothing clever like the WSPR monitoring S/W Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/3/13 dave.riley3 > *Andy, et al, re: logging program* > ** > *I just plugged in the G3PLX program and it is already collecting data on > 5290...* > ** > *Will you be on tonight?? 503.700kc ( 502.200 usb ) ?* > ** > *If so I'll leave it parked on you all night with -240 seconds delay.* > ** > *Where do I find the logs stored when session is over??* > ** > *TNX* > ** > *Dave @ WD2XSH/17* > ** > ** > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Andy Talbot > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org ; uk_beacons@yahoogroups.com > *Sent:* Friday, March 13, 2009 5:57 AM > *Subject:* LF: Re: Multi-function beacon > > Just a reminder to all - this beacon is still going, and will probably > continue to do so until further notice. A few listeners have downloaded > the software, and thanks to all (you know who your are :-) for the plots / > listings. I am not in a position to compile them, so don't expect > revelations, but Gerhard / DK6NI has been monitoring pretty > well continuously, and has plotted some deep fades / enhancements measured > over hours with depths in the regions of 30dB. > > Are there any stations in the US in a position to monitor ? > > Please note that if using the recommended 5meg beacon monitoring software > you'll either have to set the delta time to -240 (or -180 or -120) seconds > or adjust the PC clock by two, three or four minutes to cope with the four > minute offset I'm running it on. > > Andy G4JNT > www.g4jnt.com > > > 2009/3/6 Andy Talbot > >> I've now started transmitting a timed beacon signal on 503.7kHz that >> is identical in format to that of GB3SSS operated over the winter months of >> the last two years from Poldhu on 1.9 and 3.5MHz, and has a similar signal >> structure to the 5MHz beacons, GB3RAL, WES and ORK. These all have an >> initial CW ident and stepped power levels for aural reception, and a >> precisely defined period of full-power plain carrier for S/N measurements. >> See http://www.rsgb-spectrumforum.org.uk/5mhz%20beacons.htm for the >> complete 5MHz signal structure. For this MF transmission, as on GB3SSS, >> the pulsed sounder sequence of the 5MHz beacons is replaced with a PSK31 >> message which lasts from 30s to approx 48 seconds after the start >> >> Auto Monitoring software writen by G3PLX is available for monitoring >> these beacons, it measures signal to noise during the carrier period and >> saves to file as well as plotting the last 40 hours worth of measurements. >> The software can be downloaded from >> http://www.rsgb.org/spectrumforum/hf/beaconauto.php . PSK31 data can be >> copied with Digipan, Fldigi, PSK31SBW or a host of other packages. >> >> *TIMING * >> The 503.7kHz transmission takes place every 15 minutes at 4 minutes past >> the quarter hour. >> ie each transmission starts at *xx:04, xx:19, xx:34 and xx:49 * This >> time slot has been selected so that the transmission do not interfere with >> my continuous ongoing reception of the 5Mhz beacons - the active antenna >> used for these is overloaded by the 500kHz signal and I have already lost >> data when the WSPR beacon transmission coincided with one of the monitoring >> windows. >> >> NOTE If using the G3PLX software, this only monitors for the three 5MHz >> beacons at 00, 01 and 02 minutes. >> *SO IT WILL BE NECESSARY TO FRIG THE SOFTWARE * to monitor >> this transmission at the 04 minute point. The necessary alteration can be >> done by firstly setting your PC clock accurately to the correct time, then >> setting the Track Time box to -240 (minus 240 seconds). This will make the >> software look for this transmission during the time window it thinks it >> would be receiving GB3RAL, and log the MF transmission during the first >> minute, on the red trace, as if it were GB3RAL >> >> The beacon uses the identical hardware to the WSPR transmissions of the >> last few weeks, with the the only change being a reprogramming of the >> controller PIC. In fact the very same hardware was previously loaned to >> the Poldhu club for their beacons, with the only difference being a change >> to the final Low Pass filter on the output of the broadband PA. >> >> >> >> --00504502bad0346530046506134e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Its going continuously, although I suspect I'll have to turn it off= when I'm not around such as weekday day times=A0- unattended beacons ar= e not permitted it seems!=A0=A0 Certainly will be going all weekend.
=A0
If you've set up logging, the file you specified will be in the def= ault installation directory.=A0 Its a simple .txt file.=A0=A0 Nothing clever= like the WSPR monitoring S/W
=A0

Andy =A0G4JNT
www= .g4jnt.com


2009/3/13 dave.riley3 <dave.riley3@verizon.net>=
Andy, et al, re: logging program
=A0
I just plugged in the G3PLX program and it is=20= already collecting data on 5290...
=A0
Will you be on tonight??=A0=A0 503.700kc=A0 (=20= 502.200 usb ) ?
=A0
If so I'll leave it parked on you all nigh= t with -240 seconds delay.
=A0
Where do I find the logs stored when session i= s over??
=A0
TNX
=A0
Dave @ WD2XSH/17
=A0
=A0
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 5:57 AM<= /div>
Subject: LF: Re: Multi-function beaco= n

Just a reminder to all - this beacon is still going, and will probably=20= continue to do so until further notice.=A0=A0 A few listeners have downloade= d the software, and thanks to all (you know who your are :-) for the plots /= listings.=A0=A0 I am not in a position to compile them, so don't expect= revelations, but Gerhard=A0 /=A0 DK6NI has been monitoring pretty well=A0co= ntinuously, and has plotted some=A0deep fades / enhancements measured over h= ours with depths in the regions of 30dB.
=A0
Are there any stations in the US in a position to monitor ?=A0=A0
=A0
Please note that if using the recommended 5meg beacon monitoring softwa= re you'll either have to set the delta time to -240 (or -180 or -120) se= conds or adjust the PC clock by two, three or four minutes to cope with the=20= four minute offset I'm running it on.
=A0
Andy =A0G4JNT
2009/3/6 Andy Talbot <andy.g4jnt@googlema= il.com>
I've now=A0started transmitting a timed=A0 beacon signal on 503.7kH= z that is=A0identical in format to that of GB3SSS operated over the winter m= onths of the last two years=A0=A0from Poldhu on 1.9 and 3.5MHz, =A0and has= =A0a similar signal structure to the 5MHz beacons, GB3RAL, WES and ORK.=A0 T= hese all have=A0an initial CW ident and=A0stepped power levels for aural rec= eption,=A0and a precisely defined period of full-power plain carrier for S/N= measurements.=A0=A0
See=A0 =A0http://www.rsgb-spectrumforum.org.uk/5mhz%20beacons= .htm=A0 for the complete 5MHz =A0signal structure.=A0=A0For this MF tran= smission, as on GB3SSS, the pulsed sounder sequence of the 5MHz beacons is r= eplaced with a PSK31 message which lasts from=A030s to approx 48 seconds aft= er the start
=A0
Auto Monitoring software writen by G3PLX is available for monitoring th= ese beacons, it measures signal to noise during the carrier period and saves= to file as well as plotting the last 40 hours worth of measurements.
The software can be downloaded from=A0 http://www.rsgb.org/spectr= umforum/hf/beaconauto.php=A0.=A0=A0 PSK31 data can be copied with Digipa= n, Fldigi, PSK31SBW or a host of other packages.
=A0
TIMING
The 503.7kHz transmission takes place every 15 minutes at 4 minutes pas= t the quarter hour.=A0
ie=A0each transmission starts at xx:04, xx:19, xx:34 and xx:49= =A0=A0=A0=A0This time slot has been selected so that the transmissi= on do not interfere with my continuous ongoing reception of the 5Mhz beacons= - the active antenna used for these is overloaded by the 500kHz signal and=20= I have already lost data when the WSPR beacon transmission coincided with on= e of the monitoring windows.
=A0
NOTE=A0=A0 If using the=A0G3PLX software, this only=A0monitors for the=20= three 5MHz beacons at =A000, 01 and 02 minutes.
SO IT WILL BE NECESSARY=A0TO FRIG=A0THE SOFTWARE =A0to= monitor this=A0transmission at the 04 minute point.=A0=A0=A0The necessary a= lteration can be done by firstly setting=A0your PC clock accurately to the c= orrect time, then setting the Track Time box to -240 (minus 240 seconds)..= =A0 This will make the software look for this transmission during the time= =A0window it thinks it would be receiving GB3RAL, and log the=A0MF transmiss= ion during the first minute, on the red trace, as if it were GB3RAL=A0
=A0
The beacon uses the identical hardware to the=A0WSPR transmissions of= =A0the last few weeks, with the the only change being a=A0reprogramming of t= he controller PIC.=A0=A0 In fact the very same hardware was previously loane= d to the Poldhu club for their beacons, with the only difference being a cha= nge to the final Low Pass filter on the output of the broadband PA.
=A0


--00504502bad0346530046506134e-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd03.mx.aol.com (rly-dd03.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.150]) by air-dd05.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDD051-b6749bad000c0; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 17:28:49 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd03.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD031-b6749bad000c0; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 17:28:34 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LiEvI-0005QE-RT for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 21:28:08 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LiEvI-0005Q5-6y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 21:28:08 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-2-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.53]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LiEvG-0000nl-47 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 21:28:08 +0000 X-Trace: 166208592/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.59.96/None/g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.59.96 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Microsoft Office Outlook 11Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AkEIAEdsuklYajtg/2dsb2JhbACCUVNDhTd9g1rCMAeDdwY X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,360,1233532800"; d="scan'208,217";a="166208592" Received: from 88-106-59-96.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.59.96]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 13 Mar 2009 21:28:03 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF -RSGB LF Group" Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 21:28:03 -0000 Message-ID: <00c301c9a422$97e91cd0$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcmkIpdZ/eqWScC7REKGYSqepFDDgw== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: G4WGT 500KHz grabbers. Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00C4_01C9A422.97E91CD0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_00C4_01C9A422.97E91CD0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all at LF, The G4WGT grabbers are back on. Sorry for the glitch in continuity but had PC problems, all sorted now (hopefully), it seems to have been a corrupted sys file. Had to resort to restoring from a recent backup. 73, Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. ------=_NextPart_000_00C4_01C9A422.97E91CD0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi all at LF,=

 =

The G4WGT grabbers are back on.=

 =

Sorry for the glitch in continu= ity but had PC problems, all sorted now (hopefully), it seems to have been a corrupted s= ys file.

Had to resort to restoring from= a recent backup.

 =

73,

 

Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.=

 

------=_NextPart_000_00C4_01C9A422.97E91CD0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db03.mx.aol.com (rly-db03.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.78]) by air-db04.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDB043-ab549c0197512a; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 17:43:32 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db03.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB033-ab549c0197512a; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 17:43:19 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ljh41-0007Nb-EX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 21:43:09 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ljh41-0007NS-33 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 21:43:09 +0000 Received: from imo-d20.mx.aol.com ([205.188.139.136]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ljh3y-0005Le-Tq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 21:43:09 +0000 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-d20.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id l.c1a.543a8285 (34940) for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 17:42:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Black (g229165095.adsl.alicedsl.de [92.229.165.95]) by cia-da05.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILCIADA051-887c49c0195e14d; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 17:42:56 -0400 Message-ID: <3225EC660BC1470A9C61BCCA76E5AEAD@Black> From: "Markus Vester" To: References: <49C01194.2010305@online.fr> In-Reply-To: <49C01194.2010305@online.fr> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 22:42:54 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16480 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16669 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: [137kHz] Test de f1afj qrss60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 .....up to about 0.5 uV/m on this grabber. Well done Jean-Pierre! Good luck de Markus, DF6NM ----- Original Message ----- From: ""Jean-Pierre Méré (F1AFJ)"" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 10:09 PM Subject: LF: [137kHz] Test de f1afj qrss60 Hello LF I am in test on 137775 qrss60, 300 W until 22:00z Your reports will be welcome 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg08.mx.aol.com (rly-dg08.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.92]) by air-dg05.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDG054-5e849c50929195; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 11:35:24 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg08.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG087-5e849c50929195; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 11:35:06 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ll3DI-0005bI-VF for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 15:34:20 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ll3DI-0005b9-K8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 15:34:20 +0000 Received: from mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.48]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ll3DG-00038Y-Vl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 15:34:20 +0000 Received: from aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20090321153403.COPH4080.mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 15:34:03 +0000 Received: from [192.168.2.33] (really [82.22.242.113]) by aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vG.2.02.00.01 201-2161-120-102-20060912) with ESMTP id <20090321153403.OHV21638.aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@[192.168.2.33]> for ; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 15:34:03 +0000 From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 15:33:21 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <49C508C1.22893.5ECE72@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-description: Mail message body X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=9YlaCzn6_68A:10 a=HeoHQEiRHV5C1rAU898A:9 a=asg0tj9c2X0SIC0l6O40WFHQF5YA:4 a=XF7b4UCPwd8A:10 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 136kHz activity 21 March Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Thanks to Harry, G3MFW, activity was fairly high on the 136kHz band this morning. I had QRSS3 QSOs with G3MFW, F6BWO and F4DTL, and saw part of the transmission of OE5ODL. Well done Harry. Mike, G3XDV ========== From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de04.mx.aol.com (rly-de04.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.140]) by air-de04.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDE043-4d049c15f133d9; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 16:52:53 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de04.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE047-4d049c15f133d9; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 16:52:36 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lk2kL-0002rZ-L3 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 20:52:17 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lk2kL-0002rQ-2x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 20:52:17 +0000 Received: from mail-fx0-f174.google.com ([209.85.220.174]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lk2kI-000422-KC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 20:52:17 +0000 Received: by fxm22 with SMTP id 22so256816fxm.4 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 13:52:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=rYmWE7PQ3upKTVlLO1FSM0Np3nIIIIMOU9ptj1jdfj0=; b=xc6ymsZd/msCRRZST50rhaGINGAtgXZbTJTO8TJ4wnLeJT5YM3lR6Suq0WJwDO4THI 4V7/YXbzu6n3TxjEj0LvrMX8JQxug71TROkFCDeLRq7M1iwmeM1sECoxAVv3ZanpvvNr 8ziMGpmBomTnVQHzFKbjaMwQckpWlZ7xm70Es= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=aXa8pQyHeEv7lMsbQsECtxUiP/KbE6D4V+Q/edfdkFthzOKPS2LmkudeT1kTWUMS4s 8Jtqzos9Vk0nFseIrLg/tclXAJVtk8TjO05KNRqG1S9Vj97KrgFvhQTnuNwQUEzjGocV o9qsLvo4sJQwggDqbw6qNIksDhRtwDX+QbVZE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.50.195 with SMTP id a3mr542781bkg.123.1237409528563; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 13:52:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <009001c9a588$7eb02c60$6401a8c0@asus> <005101c9a679$df148f50$6401a8c0@asus> <916F3329CAA846A19B450540FCC7E0AB@AGB> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 20:52:08 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software QQQ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5ad0d64478104656adbfa X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d229.2 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --001636c5ad0d64478104656adbfa Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If timing slips, the averaged power will be out by the amount of slippage. So, for a 1 second error the total power summed over the window is 4/5, or about 1dB down. For 2.5s slippage, -3dB BUT.. ... this may be only an approximation as windowing is applied so the contribution from the power measured at the middle of the timing window is given a greater weigthing than the measurement at either end. In this event, slight timing error will introduce even less error. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/3/18 Graham > Andy, > > Q .. If the tx is keyed by vox/breakin will the slight clipping of > the leading edge of the beacon cause time problems ?? > reason being .. if use force 'tx' will miss the beacon rx windows ?? > > Tnx- G .. > > *From:* Andy Talbot > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 17, 2009 4:27 PM > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > *Subject:* Re: LF: RE: Syncback software > > That should have read http://www.g4jnt.com/PCBCN.zip > > Andy G4JNT > www.g4jnt.com > > > 2009/3/17 Andy Talbot > >> Try http://www.g4jnt.com/beacons.htm and go to PCBCN at the bottom >> or directly >> > ------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.16/2006 - Release Date: 03/17/09 > 07:23:00 > > --001636c5ad0d64478104656adbfa Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
If timing slips, the averaged power will be out by the amount of slippa= ge.=A0 So,=A0for a=A01 second error the total power summed over=A0the=A0wind= ow is 4/5, or about 1dB down.=A0=A0 For 2.5s slippage, -3dB
=A0
BUT..
=A0
.. this=A0may be=A0only an approximation as windowing is applied so the= contribution from the power measured at the middle of the timing window is=20= given a greater weigthing than the measurement at either end.=A0 In this eve= nt, slight timing error will introduce even less error.

Andy =A0G4JNT
www= .g4jnt.com


2009/3/18 Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
Andy,
=A0
Q .. If the=A0 tx is keyed by vox/break= in=A0=A0=A0 will the slight=A0 clipping of the=A0 leading edge of the=A0 bea= con=A0 cause time problems ??
reason being=A0 .. if use force 'tx= ' will miss the=A0 beacon rx windows ??
=A0
Tnx- G ..


Andy =A0G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com


2009/3/17 Andy Talbot <andy.g4jnt@googlem= ail.com>
Try http= ://www.g4jnt.com/beacons.htm=A0=A0=A0=A0and go to =A0PCBCN at the bottom=
=A0or directly=A0


No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 8= .0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.16/2006 - Release Date: 03/17/09 07:23:00


--001636c5ad0d64478104656adbfa-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (rly-ma08.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.52]) by air-ma09.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMA093-8c349c780f05e; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 08:30:53 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA085-8c349c780f05e; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 08:30:42 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LljIY-0006zX-UP for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 12:30:34 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LljIY-0006zO-J4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 12:30:34 +0000 Received: from mail-qy0-f107.google.com ([209.85.221.107]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LljIV-0005WF-S4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 12:30:34 +0000 Received: by qyk5 with SMTP id 5so2416844qyk.30 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 05:30:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=XyzDcnCIOvM7CaBlnz7ktvJVD81jdxsKTyVrD/oMY2E=; b=lBKuk49DFfJ3B70h0zK/LZOASQ+ohqCBGDy3zc/NE7Dtlj52KYOmmKEtb3t6e9zaik Fp8z/bK2ZwsRgerpIZYOxrV05Z7UyNtNSwcIeitPHX8nvM2yvUxEJkvJto2eJwyJ2BNv vkt8gQo8gPbH+PGFe6y1LfTy8Y+xtejTU9oRU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=tnqRaWjSEzbAP01esU3LJplsez2IK0Y8Pn650czoHifSWvhD0xdufK4wGrl0zPZnPH VOv5ysdjkLCi7rwaR3ZOkUKHcBkS+Nl2GUS+Z5QgGaVo0ver2UwWfrCR/mUIq64wQs7F lbeOdFEWnZktkbNePOgRead2zJbbUmFVQ+6/4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.89.16 with SMTP id c16mr8647714qam.375.1237811425327; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 05:30:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 08:30:25 -0400 Message-ID: <57a24ca70903230530s41cc001dha25a27f146984c12@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: Re: LF: xgj Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR, UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d221.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Thanks Victor! -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 1:42 AM, wrote: > Hi Warren,lf > > very good copy of XGJ at 5:36z > > 73 > Victor From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de03.mx.aol.com (rly-de03.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.139]) by air-de05.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDE052-4c349d28f5d15a; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 17:47:29 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de03.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE034-4c349d28f5d15a; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 17:47:11 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lolmr-00030n-Hv for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 22:46:25 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lolmr-00030e-3u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 22:46:25 +0100 Received: from [193.252.22.190] (helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lolmo-0006iI-Tk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 22:46:25 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3602.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 375657000083 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 23:46:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.26.3]) by mwinf3602.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id EFAA47000082 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 23:46:14 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20090331214614981.EFAA47000082@mwinf3602.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <8E3C72ADB40D4EEA84C5615F936FCAD6@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 22:46:14 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8064.206 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8064.206 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Beacons Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0178_01C9B252.7EF11140" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0178_01C9B252.7EF11140 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Im running in the green slot 5 mins on 503.700 Will run till round 2400 gmt=20 G ..=20 From: dave.riley3=20 Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 9:07 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: LF: Beacons Any 600M beacons or sigs from EU tonight?? TNX Dave @ WD2XSH/17 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.5.285 / Virus Database: 270.11.35/2033 - Release Date: 03/31/09 1= 3:05:00 ------=_NextPart_000_0178_01C9B252.7EF11140 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Im running in the green slot 5 mins on=20 503.700
 
Will run till round  2400 gmt <= /DIV>
 
G ..

Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 9:07 PM
Subject: LF: Beacons

Any 600M beacons or sigs from EU=20 tonight??
 
 
TNX
 
Dave @ WD2XSH/17
 
 


No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 8.5.285 / Virus Da= tabase:=20 270.11.35/2033 - Release Date: 03/31/09 13:05:00
------=_NextPart_000_0178_01C9B252.7EF11140-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db01.mx.aol.com (rly-db01.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.76]) by air-db08.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDB081-aaa49bc549d2c8; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 21:06:55 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db01.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB018-aaa49bc549d2c8; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 21:06:39 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LienX-0003It-Ug for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 01:05:51 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LienX-0003Ik-D8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 01:05:51 +0000 Received: from imo-m14.mx.aol.com ([64.12.138.204]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LienU-0005md-GM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 01:05:51 +0000 Received: from F4DTL@aol.com by imo-m14.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id l.d6a.45f71cb9 (32914) for ; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 21:05:35 -0400 (EDT) From: F4DTL@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 21:05:35 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5029 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: Re: LF: DI2BO Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_d6a.45f71cb9.36edae5f_boundary" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --part1_d6a.45f71cb9.36edae5f_boundary Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1237079134" -------------------------------1237079134 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Nice copy this evening,with the strong PIA beacon on 440 kHz F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP RX : Icom IC7200 Ant: LF/MF Miniwhip -------------------------------1237079134 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Nice copy this evening,with the strong PIA beacon on 440 kHz
 
F4DTL=20 Nicolas JN18FP

RX : Icom IC7200
Ant: LF/MF=20 Miniwhip

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([65.55.111.169]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LkMTf-00073Y-6G for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 17:56:24 +0000 Received: from BLU146-W2 ([65.55.111.136]) by blu0-omc4-s30.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 19 Mar 2009 10:55:53 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [196.40.0.241] From: Laurence BY3A-KL1X China To: , , , Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 09:55:52 -0800 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <004601c9a82e$acdd0e20$6401a8c0@radiocomputer> References: <004601c9a82e$acdd0e20$6401a8c0@radiocomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Mar 2009 17:55:53.0013 (UTC) FILETIME=[F20E1650:01C9A8BB] X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_2f91566b-384b-43ad-8771-9364036bbe2e_" Subject: LF: RE: 600MRG> WD2XSH/6 tonight QRSS3 on 507.600 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_2f91566b-384b-43ad-8771-9364036bbe2e_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Pat nice sigs up to readible cw at times from you and /10 - thanks for sigs=20= both. Ive not done a full run of all captures as Im up to my next in recabli= ng this commercial station.... =20 thanks for all the signals chaps!! http://kl1x.com/505.jpg =20 Laurence ti3/ kl 1 x Turriabla, Costa Rica - surrounded by mountains and vol= canoes....smoking too... =20 Ant was baby bottle probe at 11m next to a pasture.. =20 > From: pehamel@cableone.net > To: SHMRG@piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu > Subject: 600MRG> WD2XSH/6 tonight QRSS3 on 507.600 > Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 19:04:37 -0600 >=20 > WD2XSH/6 will be QRSS3 on 507.600 for reception by the KL1X DXpedition in=20 > Costa Rica. > If I am notified by email or otherwise that I am causing QRM or have been=20 > received, I will return to normal frequencies. > Thank you Lawrence for being there. > Pat >=20 >=20 >=20 > *********** The Primary 600MRG E-mail List Website is: ********** > ******************* http://www.500kc.com/ *********************** > ******* Secondary is: http://www.mines.uidaho.edu/~SHMRG/ ******* > *** Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to this address: **** > ************** majordomo@piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu ************** >=20 _________________________________________________________________ Express your personality in color! 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thanks for all the signals chaps!!
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Ant was baby bottle probe at 11m next to a pasture..

 
> From: pehamel@cableone.net
> To: SHMRG@piobaire.min= es.uidaho.edu
> Subject: 600MRG> WD2XSH/6 tonight QRSS3 on 507.600<= BR>> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 19:04:37 -0600
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See how. =3D --_2f91566b-384b-43ad-8771-9364036bbe2e_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh07.mx.aol.com (rly-mh07.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.143]) by air-mh01.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMH012-be349cb524ffb; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 06:01:04 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh07.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH073-be349cb524ffb; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 06:00:49 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LmmMt-0007Sp-EQ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 09:59:23 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LmmMs-0007Pf-D3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 09:59:22 +0000 Received: from cpsmtpm-eml108.kpnxchange.com ([195.121.3.12]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LmmMp-00077H-Vv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 09:59:22 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 ([81.204.139.159]) by CPSMTPM-EML108.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.0.6001.18000); Thu, 26 Mar 2009 10:59:13 +0100 Message-ID: <174B457CEB8341A78801171367A4D35F@ns94d01ae4d850> From: "henny van elst" To: References: Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 10:59:14 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Mar 2009 09:59:13.0761 (UTC) FILETIME=[8476CD10:01C9ADF9] X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36 Subject: Re: LF: DD7PC SIGNAL.jpg Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 thats ok marco, henny van elst straatweg 100 maarssen 3604bd 73s ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scholz, Marco " To: Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 10:21 AM Subject: AW: LF: DD7PC SIGNAL.jpg > Hello Henny, > Many thanks for easy QRSS3 QSO (was just my number 8 on 137.7). > I send a capture of your signal this evening. > Please can I send my QSL card direct? I put in an envelope with a stamp > for your return. > > vy73 > Marco > DD7PC (in JN49ax) > > > ----- Originalnachricht ----- > Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > An: blacksheep > Gesendet: Thu Mar 26 08:58:08 2009 > Betreff: LF: DD7PC SIGNAL.jpg > > the capture marco > henny cpm > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.29/2023 - Release Date: 03/25/09 18:54:00 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md02.mx.aol.com (rly-md02.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.140]) by air-md01.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMD014-8f049bed06d1b4; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 18:20:09 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md02.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD028-8f049bed06d1b4; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 18:19:27 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LjL9X-00076w-P8 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 22:19:23 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LjL9W-00076j-M8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 22:19:22 +0000 Received: from smtp818.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([77.238.189.18]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LjL9U-0002PL-Ig for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 22:19:22 +0000 Received: (qmail 84739 invoked from network); 16 Mar 2009 22:19:15 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=XfyaP+eY+0CEH2m3yBvKulKRy1aW3gDZ5N+oUJDQOisFda4zaFSlJTj6R2xhMEtvJRSbMnF/3Bh0EKfr4uexuIuz+2KNFD2iDeZlVEhOBa1mIQwZtZh9hNZm0J1h8IKTzFaMxY1TnqB804lsvqOcC3flrrc5BbBa4xShJRBo8FI= ; Received: from unknown (HELO Lark) (alan.melia@213.122.3.124 with login) by smtp818.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Mar 2009 22:19:13 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: XMkRyDYVM1k6jopOtgBkM1Ek6bo_98UQYTo3wmB5XSRf96GBiUp2WxIEEVYsTNv_nc8BopvEEDpFgiMhL7FVzq1VDDHCl0zKjsrd0m7kZS3JPtx78BJdIaNVtiFhHMJ6uKu.2N8PBkL4Nc8sCLs0yAViRDExXC0jgsx28BH3u9.szsSOXuDU99bkj_OSovoP7qDNoVs50gozG6MPGi2T X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <003101c9a685$3c6ce340$0900a8c0@AM> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <009001c9a588$7eb02c60$6401a8c0@asus> <00e001c9a5a7$f07216a0$6401a8c0@asus> <826BA6086575402A8C87062492069F5A@AGB> <004501c9a623$a4bf81d0$6401a8c0@asus> <2ED02F4327204E3C903828F9E18AA72B@AGB> <001e01c9a665$ebeac870$6401a8c0@asus> <00be01c9a66e$c8bfdbc0$0900a8c0@AM> <004a01c9a677$2a8b48a0$6401a8c0@asus> <005101c9a679$df148f50$6401a8c0@asus> <005f01c9a680$636296c0$6401a8c0@asus> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 22:19:06 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Gary that looks better. Alan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 9:44 PM Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software > Andy, > > > > I inserted 10dB for the 2104 Tx & then 20dB but at the 2119 Tx there was a > very deep fade (QSB) which I also noted on a separate Rx. I will leave it at > 20dB for a longer period. > > > > Recent levels as below :- > > > > 20:45 65.81 40.29 -240.0 1499.7 > > 20:46 43.87 40.29 -240.0 0.0 > > 20:47 43.36 40.29 -240.0 0.0 > > 21:00 58.08 32.23 -240.0 1499.8 > > 21:01 37.72 32.23 -240.0 0.0 > > 21:02 34.32 32.23 -240.0 0.0 > > 21:15 32.47 25.55 -240.0 0.0 > > 21:16 28.19 25.55 -240.0 0.0 > > 21:17 31.14 25.55 -240.0 0.0 > > 21:30 58.90 27.07 -240.0 1499.7 > > 21:31 28.89 27.07 -240.0 0.0 > > 21:32 28.86 27.07 -240.0 0.0 > > > > Cheers, Gary. > > > > _____ > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Andy Talbot > Sent: 16 March 2009 21:03 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > Don't destroy your noise figure though. But at HF you can probably get away > with 20 dB at least. > > > Andy G4JNT > www.g4jnt.com > > > > 2009/3/16 Gary - G4WGT > > Andy, > > > > OK, I will insert an attenuator at the antenna socket (that's an easy move) > & watch how it performs. It is switched at 10dB steps so I will start at > 10db of course. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Gary. > > > > _____ > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Andy Talbot > Sent: 16 March 2009 20:45 > > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > Doesn't matter which - just total system gain. That S/W works best if the > noise threshold rides at about 10dB above the baseline, then it allows for > up to 70 - 80dB of signal peaks. > > > Andy G4JNT > www.g4jnt.com > > 2009/3/16 Gary - G4WGT > > Alan, > > When you wrote :- > > my only comment is that you may have too much gain in the system. > > Are you meaning sound card or receiver gain? > > Gary. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Alan Melia > Sent: 16 March 2009 19:38 > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software > > Hi Gary my only comment is that you may have too much gain in the system. It > is sometimes better to have the noise further down nearer the axis. > > I am afraid there is a major problem with this kind of beacon, when the > fading period is shorter than the sampling interval, so you dont really know > what the path is doing. The only reliable points are the peaks, the troughs > dont really mean anything without some very sophisticated analysis and > probably two spaced receivers. However it does give a snapshot of the band > without taking up too much bandwidth (this was what was required for 5MHz > too). Despite all the data collected very little analysis has actually be > done on the 5MHz data collected by this program. The one succesfull bit of > work was that published in Radcom by Marcis Walden G0IJZ. I used it for some > time whilst Andy was testing the Poldhu beacon on 160m and also during the > 1st two months that ran. I was certainly surprised by the daytime path on > 160m from here. I have seen the data collected in Canada via Joe Craig VO1NA > and it is difficult to see how to use it. > > Still if you dont collect the data you will never know!! > > Alan G3NYK > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gary - G4WGT" > To: > Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 6:35 PM > Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > Hi Graham, LF, > > > > > > > > The original HTML Code for the 2 minute refresh is still inserted into the > > page format, so upload is 30 minute intervals with Syncback & 2 minute > > refresh. I have left the refresh in case I revert back to the original > > grabber page. I will look at changing it if I continue to use the beacon > > chart upload. > > > > > > > > I would like to have feedback from the LF group regarding the page, if you > > check it out periodically, is it useful to you, what are you looking for. > > > > > > > > You can view the chart on my web site at :- > > > > > > > > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html > > > > > > > > 73 > > > > > > > > Gary - G4WGT. > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham > > Sent: 16 March 2009 17:20 > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > > > > > Hi Gary, > > > > > > > > The page seemed to refresh quite often ... are there two settings ? > > > > > > > > G .. > > > > > > > > From: Gary - G4WGT > > > > Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:40 AM > > > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > > > Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > > > > > Hi Graham, LF, > > > > > > > > You wrote :- > > > > >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute > > intervals. <<< that could be backed off to 15 mins as the beacon only > > sends every 15 ?? > > > > > > > > I mentioned in my previous mail to ignore the text on the page as it was > > originally for grabber 1 for when I upgrade the web site (to a new design > & > > better navigation etc), also mentioned is that upload is every 30 minutes. > > > > > > > > If the uploaded chart proves useful or interesting to operators & viewers > > then I will change the text & make it a permanent feature for the > > foreseeable future. > > > > > > > > BTW :- > > > > > > > > For those of you who are not familiar with the chart - > > > > > > > > The RED trace is Andy's (G4JNT) beacon signal & the BLACK trace is the > noise > > level at my QTH. > > > > > > > > The Blue & GREEN are not in use & should be ignored on this chart as they > > are for the other beacons used when monitoring on the 5MHz allocation. > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > Gary - G4WGT > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham > > Sent: 15 March 2009 22:17 > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > > > > > Gary.. > > > > > > > > That looks good ... 0500 looks best time for a qso .. see you then Smile > > emoticon > > > > > > > > >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute > > intervals. <<< that could be backed off to 15 mins as the beacon only > > sends every 15 ?? > > > > > > > > the 15 db over the noise in day time is the same at this qth .. looks > like > > the big dips round 1900 where just when we where testing .. typical hihi > > > > > > > > tnx- G .. > > > > > > > > From: Gary - G4WGT > > > > Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 7:55 PM > > > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > > > Subject: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > > > > > LF, > > > > > > > > I have now got the software, Syncback running correctly (I think). > > > > > > > > The purpose of this is to upload the chart from Andy's beacon as received > > here to my web site periodically, ie. every 30 minutes. > > > > > > > > I now have a receiver running 24/7 monitoring Andy,s beacon on 503.7KHz. > > > > > > > > You can view the chart on my web site at :- > > > > > > > > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html > > > > > > > > For the moment ignore the text on the page as it is originally designed to > > use with the 500KHz grabber when I renew my web site design. If it is a > > useful upload I will make it a permanent feature but may have to extend > the > > frequency coverage of grabber 1 so not to overload the PC with operations > > which will cause the PC to struggle. > > > > > > > > Let me have your comments please. > > > > > > > > 73 > > > > > > > > Gary - G4WGT. > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT > > Sent: 15 March 2009 16:10 > > To: LF -RSGB LF Group > > Subject: LF: Syncback software > > > > > > > > Hi LF, > > > > > > > > If anyone is using Syncback software & can help, please. > > > > > > > > I am tying to upload a file to my website who's filename does not change, > > only the file size changes. I tried to do it with Argo-upload but failed > so > > I downloaded Syncback & still failing. > > > > > > > > Syncback gives me the following message :- > > > > > > > > ********************************** > > > > Can connect, but unable to change to destination directory: > > > > /chart01.bmp:not a directory > > > > ********************************** > > > > The Syncback help does not give me the answer. > > > > > > > > Any help will be appreciated > > > > > > > > Or > > > > > > > > Will Argo-Upload do it? > > > > > > > > Or > > > > > > > > Is there something else to do it? > > > > > > > > Thanks in anticipation, > > > > > > > > 73, > > > > > > > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.13/2001 - Release Date: 03/14/09 > > 06:54:00 > > > > _____ > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 8.0.237 / 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4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LgPLs-0000wj-CS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 20:12:00 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2a26.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 976287000088 for ; Sun, 8 Mar 2009 21:11:52 +0100 (CET) Received: from JR (Mix-Dijon-106-3-215.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.248.130.215]) by mwinf2a26.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id BB94C700008D for ; Sun, 8 Mar 2009 21:11:51 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20090308201151768.BB94C700008D@mwinf2a26.orange.fr Message-ID: <200903082111260341.1879F498@smtp.wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <1794381892.23372.1236524009509.JavaMail.mail@webmail03> References: <1794381892.23372.1236524009509.JavaMail.mail@webmail03> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (P) Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2009 21:11:26 +0100 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: energy saving bulbs Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 I have not noticed any QRM with these bulbs, but I don't seem to get a much=20= greater life than with the traditional ones. Also, a few months ago one of=20= the IEE/IET journals carried a letter from a member who had dissected a dead= unit. It had more than 60 soldered joints, and he suggested that this migh= t cast doubt on the economics of the product over its whole life. I have found another problem. The control gear in these devices is often en= closed in a collar round the base. As most ceiling-mounted sockets (ES or b= ayonet) in this area have a ceramic collar, the new device cannot be inserte= d far enough into the socket to be energised. You have to change the socket= or (in the case of an ES socket) buy an ES to SES adapter and an SES energy= -saving bulb. Given that people have experienced much shorter lives for the= se bulbs than has been claimed, this does seem to raise questions about the=20= economics of these products. John Rabson=20 F5VLF 58800 Cervon France JN17vg *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 08/03/2009 at 14:53 Peter Cleall wrote: >For many years I have avoided using the energy saving bulbs under the >impression that they were major RF pollutents. I am under increasing >pressure to move to using these bulbs.=20 > >=20 > > Are my concerns still the case or are they old fashioned and out of date.=20 > >Do you have experience of using these bulbs in the home.=20 > >Do modern versions interfer with your Radio receiving , I am interested in >signals from 15 kHz to 500 MHz.=20 > >Are there specific types or manufactures to be avoided=20 > >Any thoughts would be appreciaated=20 > >regards=20 > >peter From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma05.mx.aol.com (rly-ma05.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.49]) by air-ma03.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMA034-8ae49b42ee85f; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 16:48:02 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma05.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA058-8ae49b42ee85f; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 16:47:38 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LgPu4-0002MC-Le for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 20:47:20 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LgPu3-0002M3-Ej for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 20:47:19 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.151] helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LgPu1-0002mm-Ky for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 20:47:19 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3532.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id B5A371C00082 for ; Sun, 8 Mar 2009 21:47:11 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.31.236]) by mwinf3532.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 932DD1C00081 for ; Sun, 8 Mar 2009 21:47:10 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20090308204710603.932DD1C00081@mwinf3532.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <09E4F4FB066B4A5993583B221520D530@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <28FA0F184B25444F8BA2F1EC5FC42C04@AGB> In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 20:47:09 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8064.206 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8064.206 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: AW: 503.7 Multi-function beacon ... Its working ! Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00C2_01C9A02F.0CED86D0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_00C2_01C9A02F.0CED86D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Andy,=20 Looks like I have a signal 6/10 db over the noise during the day from 1200= slow rise from 1500 peak at 1800 , dip at 1700 and + 23 dB at 2015 .. s= eems to be a 1 hour qsb cycle as well=20 I think Gary is set up also for 24 monitor period ... Im seeing signal lev= els recorded that are not showing on spec lab ..=20 Q, do you have some details of the beacon, power , erp, or web links I c= an add to the info page ?=20 Tnx- G .. =20 From: Andy Talbot=20 Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 6:26 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: AW: 503.7 Multi-function beacon ... Its working ! It is no trouble to continue the transmission. I have set up the equipment=20= in the garage where it does not get in the way of other shack activites, and= won't do too much damage if the euipment blows up! So I can leave it runni= ng for a few weeks unless the antenna is needed for other purposes.. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/3/8 Beckmann, Gerhard Hi Graham, Thank you for your statement! Well actually, especially Scattergram or equal measurement methods would b= e of interest regarding the aspect of signal path monitoring. (direct wave /= sky wave via cross correlation of pulse delay values). However, the aspect of interferences by using 500us pulses has to be taken= into consideration but may be there are coming up suitable solution by the=20= LF-group.=20 Another method of monitoring the signal path on 500 kHz could possibly per= formed by using the =93PSK Sounder=94 software from ZL2AFP. And what I saw o= n a first glance it should be usable for transmission and reception in order= to monitor the signal path situation. By the way:=20 Do you know if Andy is continuing the Multi-function beaconing on 503.7 kH= z? In this case I would try long term signal monitoring by GB3RAL.exe and PSK= message decoding within the next evening sessions. vy 73 de Gerhard / DK6NI =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacks= heep.org] Im Auftrag von Graham Gesendet: Sonntag, 8. M=E4rz 2009 15:36=20 An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Betreff: Re: LF: AW: 503.7 Multi-function beacon ... Its working !=20 Hi, Grerhard, Andy's post about the new beacon came out of the blue, (as is the signal= hihi), Working on this, I've simply added a page to the uk500khz news gro= up and posted links about to generate some interest and make sure the beaco= n details are known to hams and swl's out side this reflector ..=20 The only thing that occurs to me is that there is a possibility for recep= tion reports to be directed to the 5 meg group , I note that the graph gen= erator by G4IRX requests your call and locator before processing the file=20= and presenting you with a plot. so I will see if anything can be done to pr= event this , the data format is of course distorted by having only one activ= e beacon.. so it will show up .. but may as yet be unexpected ...! I note from previous email that the pulse aspect of the beacon is require= d for precise measurements, I think that may be possible to set up a 'experi= ment' but the aspect of interference to other users may be significant, An= dy has referred to the concept of 'phase reversal' in a continues carrier sy= stem (or medium pulse ?) that would perhaps be a acceptable mode of modulati= on, weather it could be transmitted by a 'normal' transmitter im note sure ,= but its worth noting that activities on 500, to date are not 'funded' as s= uch and time and capital out lay are part of the 'hobby' and such hardware r= equirements and software re-writes are beyond many of the active stations.=20= but perhaps as interest spreads .. things may change ..?=20 Tnx-=20 Graham G0NBD IO83LK From: Beckmann, Gerhard=20 Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 11:06 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Cc: 'Robert Hemesley'=20 Subject: LF: AW: 503.7 Multi-function beacon ... Its working ! Hello Graham, Hello Andy,=20 reading about your activities concerning Multi-function beacon I tried yes= terday evening to catch your signals, but unfortunately with no results copy= ing your sig. May be condx were not good enough. Moreover I had some bad ma= nmade QRM from TV and PC. As Rob Hemesley told you I am active in 5-MHz-beaco- monitoring spec= ially concerning scattergram monitoring in order to analyse signal path sit= uation (direct wave / sky wave behaviour). But I am running both analysis software, GB3RAL.exe and Scattergram.= exe and it would not be any problem to modify the internal PC-clock speciall= y regarding GB3RAL.exe in order to analyse the long term signal level of you= r Multi-function beacon. So I will try to continue monitoring your Multi-fun= ction beacon hopefully that condx will be better in the next evening session= s (hi). If there will be Scattergram acties in future I certainly need some=20= more dB signal level, but it would be very interesting to investigate the si= gnal path situation. Of course, this is more interesting for those participants who are l= ocated in a distance range between 150 and 300 km in order to monitor the sl= ide crossover from direct wave to sky wave signal path.=20 However, thank you very much for implementation of your very intere= sting Multi-function beacon project and I will keep on running my monitoring= activities and will inform you in any case about further results. vy 73 and a lot of success by running Multi-function beacons, I will be=20= =93on the qui vive=94 !!! de Gerhard / DK6NI (JN59LN) By the way:=20 Dial frequency 505.2 kHz, is that o.k.? (because GB3RAL.exe is decoding wi= th 1500 Hz too). For BPSK31-decoding I am using DigiPan Vers.2.0 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacks= heep.org] Im Auftrag von Graham Gesendet: Samstag, 7. M=E4rz 2009 23:46 An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Betreff: LF: 503.7 Multi-function beacon ... Its working ! So far so good .. quite a step up in signal round 2100 hrs =20 no frequency decode before then , 15 db over noise at 2130 but a trend showing=20 about 1 hour slow qsb=20 any other reports ? G ..=20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- No virus found in this incoming message. 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Andy,
 
Looks like I have a signal 6/10 db over the=  =20 noise during the  day from 1200  slow rise from 1500  peak at= =20 1800 , dip at 1700  and  + 23 dB at 2015 .. seems to  be a 1=20= hour=20 qsb cycle as well
 
I think Gary is set up  also for = 24=20 monitor period ... Im seeing signal levels recorded that are not  showi= ng=20 on spec lab ..
 
Q, do you  have some details of the&nb= sp;=20 beacon,  power , erp, or  web links I can add to  the in= fo=20 page ?
 
Tnx- G ..  
 

Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 6:26 PM
Subject: Re: LF: AW: 503.7 Multi-function beacon ... Its working= =20 !

It is no trouble to continue the transmission.  I have set up the=20 equipment in the garage where it does not get in the way of other shack=20 activites, and won't do too much damage if the euipment blows up!  So I= can=20 leave it running for a few weeks unless the antenna is needed for other=20 purposes..

Andy  G4JNT
= www.g4jnt.com


2009/3/8 Beckmann, Gerhard <beckmann.erlangen@freenet.= de>

Hi=20 Graham,

 

Thank you=20 for your statement!

Well=20 actually, especially Scattergram or equal measurement methods would be of=20 interest regarding the aspect of signal path monitoring. (direct wave / sk= y=20 wave via cross correlation of pulse delay values).

However,=20 the aspect of interferences by using 500us pulses has to be taken into=20 consideration but may be there are coming up suitable solution by the=20 LF-group.

Another=20 method of monitoring the signal path on 500 kHz could possibly performed b= y=20 using the =93PSK Sounder=94 software from ZL2AFP. And what I saw on a firs= t glance=20 it should be usable for transmission and reception in order to monitor the= =20 signal path situation.

 

By the=20 way:

Do you=20 know if Andy is continuing the Multi-function beaconing on 503.7=20 kHz?

In this=20 case I would try long term signal monitoring by GB3RAL.exe and PSK message= =20 decoding within the next evening sessions.

 

vy 73 de=20 Gerhard / DK6NI

 

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

 

 

 

Von: o= wner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blackshe= ep.org] Im Auftrag von <= /B>Graham
Gesendet: S= onntag, 8. M=E4rz 2009 15:36=20


An: rsgb_l= f_group@blacksheep.org
Betreff: Re: LF: AW: 503.7 Multi-function=20 beacon ... Its working !=20

 

Hi,=20 Grerhard,

 

Andy's post about the  new=20 beacon came out of the  blue, (as is the signal hihi), Working on thi= s,=20  I've simply added a page to the  uk500khz news group and posted= =20 links about to  generate some interest and make sure the=20 beacon details are known to hams and swl's out side this reflector ..= =20

 

The only thing that occurs=20 to  me is that there is a possibility for reception reports to be&nbs= p;=20 directed to the 5 meg group , I note that the  graph generator by=20 G4IRX  requests your call and locator  before processing the fil= e=20 and presenting you with a plot. so I will see if anything can be done to&n= bsp;=20 prevent this , the data format is of course distorted by having only one=20 active beacon.. so it will show up .. but may as yet be unexpected=20 ...!

 

I=20 note from previous email that the pulse aspect of the  beacon is requ= ired=20 for precise measurements, I think that may be possible to set up a=20 'experiment'  but the aspect of interference to  other users may= be=20 significant, Andy has referred to the concept of 'phase reversal' in a=20 continues carrier system (or medium pulse ?) that would perhaps be a=20 acceptable mode of modulation, weather it could be transmitted by a 'norma= l'=20 transmitter im note sure , but its worth noting that activities on 500, to= =20 date  are not 'funded' as such and time and capital out lay are part=20= of=20 the 'hobby' and such hardware requirements  and software re-writes ar= e=20 beyond many of the active stations. but perhaps as interest spreads .. thi= ngs=20 may change ..?

 

Tnx-

 

Graham

 

G0NBD

IO83LK

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

From:<= /SPAN> Beckmann, Gerhard=20

Sent:<= /SPAN> Sunday,=20 March 08, 2009 11:06 AM

Subjec= t: LF: AW:=20 503.7 Multi-function beacon ... Its working=20 !

 

Hello Graham, Hello Andy,

 

reading about your activities concerning Multi-fun= ction beacon I=20 tried yesterday evening to catch your signals, but unfortunately with no=20 results copying your sig. May be condx were not good enough.  Moreove= r I=20 had some bad manmade QRM from TV and PC.

 

      As Rob Hemesley tol= d you I am active=20 in 5-MHz-beaco- monitoring specially concerning  scattergram monitori= ng=20 in order to analyse signal path situation (direct wave / sky wave=20 behaviour).

      But I am running bo= th analysis=20 software, GB3RAL.exe and Scattergram.exe and it would not be any problem t= o=20 modify the internal PC-clock specially regarding GB3RAL.exe in order to=20 analyse the long term signal level of your Multi-function beacon. So I wil= l=20 try to continue monitoring your Multi-function beacon hopefully that condx= =20 will be better in the next evening sessions (hi).

      If there will be Sc= attergram acties=20 in future I certainly need some more dB signal level, but it would be very= =20 interesting to investigate the signal path situation.

      Of course, this is=20= more interesting=20 for those participants who are located in a distance range between 150 and= 300=20 km in order to monitor the slide crossover from direct wave to sky wave si= gnal=20 path.

       However, than= k you very much=20 for implementation of your very interesting Multi-function beacon project=20= and=20 I will keep on running my monitoring activities and will inform you in any= =20 case about further results.

 

vy 73 and a lot of success by running Multi-functi= on beacons, I=20 will be =93on the qui vive=94 !!!

 

de Gerhard  /  DK6NI  (JN59LN)

 

By the way:

Dial frequency 505.2 kHz, is that o.k.? (because G= B3RAL.exe is=20 decoding with 1500 Hz too).

For BPSK31-decoding I am using DigiPan Vers.2.0

 

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

 

 

 

Von: o= wner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blackshe= ep.org] Im Auftrag von <= /B>Graham
Gesendet: S= amstag, 7. M=E4rz 2009=20 23:46
An: rsgb_lf_group@b= lacksheep.org
Betreff: LF: 503.7 Multi-function beacon=20 ... Its working !

 

So far so good .. quite a step up=20 in signal round 2100 hrs 

no frequency decode before then ,=20 15 db over noise at 2130

 

but a trend showing=20

about  1 hour slow qsb=20

 

any other reports=20 ?

 

G=20 ..

 


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(rly-md05.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.143]) by air-md03.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMD032-90649c15b5a3c; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 16:36:59 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md05.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD056-90649c15b5a3c; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 16:36:44 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lk2VE-0002U9-Od for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 20:36:40 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lk2VE-0002U0-DB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 20:36:40 +0000 Received: from imo-m27.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.8]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lk2VB-00016y-UC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 20:36:40 +0000 Received: from F4DTL@aol.com by imo-m27.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id l.c27.58d6e0d7 (33856) for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 16:35:26 -0400 (EDT) From: F4DTL@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 16:35:25 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5029 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: DTL 18-03.jpg Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1237408525" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 -------------------------------1237408525 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 Thanx Henny, im beaconing with 200w until 2130Z 137776 QRSS60. 10m vertical antenna very small capacitive hat. =20 Seen with the DF6NM grabber my friend DD7PC,hello Marco. =20 =20 F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP _http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/_ (http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/)=20 =20 =20 =20 Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 18/03/2009 21:25:21 Paris, Madrid, cpm@planet.nl a=20= =20 =E9crit : Hi lf, capture DTL Henny pa3cpm 73s =20 =20 =20 -------------------------------1237408525 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanx Henny, im beaconing with 200w until 2130Z 137776 QRSS60.
10m vertical antenna very small capacitive hat.
 
Seen with the DF6NM grabber my friend DD7PC,hello=20 Marco.
 
 
 
 
Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 18/03/2009 21:25:21 Paris, Madrid, cpm@planet.= nl a=20 =E9crit :
Hi lf,
capture DTL
Henny pa3cpm
73s
 
 
 
 -------------------------------1237408525-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc01.mx.aol.com (rly-dc01.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.30]) by air-dc01.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDC014-b0449bfa94188; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 09:44:40 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc01.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC018-b0449bfa94188; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 09:44:34 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LjZab-0002uG-2u for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 13:44:17 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LjZaa-0002u7-GF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 13:44:16 +0000 Received: from bay0-omc3-s28.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.228]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LjZaZ-0002OS-BJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 13:44:16 +0000 Received: from BAY101-W28 ([64.4.56.128]) by bay0-omc3-s28.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 17 Mar 2009 06:43:54 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [212.4.140.33] From: Lubos OK2BVG To: Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 14:43:54 +0100 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Mar 2009 13:43:54.0195 (UTC) FILETIME=[69B60A30:01C9A706] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_53a77ce4-a69d-4f1d-8d3f-8e7c9691fc62_" Subject: LF: XGJ X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_53a77ce4-a69d-4f1d-8d3f-8e7c9691fc62_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Warren, LF! I wasn=B4t on 137.777kHz last night, becouse my beacon OK0EMW transmitted..=20= But I will be ready this night and I am just looking forward to your signal.= =20 73 Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS=20 _________________________________________________________________ Pozvi sv=E9 p=F8=E1tele z Facebooku a Hotmailu do Messengeru! https://www.invite2messenger.net/Default.aspx=3D --_53a77ce4-a69d-4f1d-8d3f-8e7c9691fc62_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Warren, LF!
I wasn=B4t on 137.777kHz last night, becouse my beacon=20= OK0EMW transmitted. But I will be ready this night and I am just looking for= ward to your signal.

73 Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

St=E1h= n=ECte si zcela nov=FD Messenger 2009! Klikni zde! =3D --_53a77ce4-a69d-4f1d-8d3f-8e7c9691fc62_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (rly-dd04.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.151]) by air-dd06.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDD064-b7249c01b5c2d9; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 17:51:41 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD044-b7249c01b5c2d9; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 17:51:27 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LjhBx-0007c3-Mh for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 21:51:21 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LjhBx-0007bu-Bo for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 21:51:21 +0000 Received: from smtp1-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.1]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LjhBv-000336-Eu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 21:51:21 +0000 Received: from smtp1-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp1-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCEAD940143 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 22:51:16 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp1-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id C937E9400B5 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 22:51:13 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <49C01B51.2050905@online.fr> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 22:51:13 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <49C01194.2010305@online.fr> <3225EC660BC1470A9C61BCCA76E5AEAD@Black> In-Reply-To: <3225EC660BC1470A9C61BCCA76E5AEAD@Black> X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: [137kHz] Test de f1afj qrss60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Markus , Thank you for report , 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj Markus Vester a =E9crit : > ....up to about 0.5 uV/m on this grabber. Well done Jean-Pierre! > > Good luck de Markus, DF6NM > > > ----- Original Message -----=20 > From: ""Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 (F1AFJ)"" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 10:09 PM > Subject: LF: [137kHz] Test de f1afj qrss60 > > > Hello LF > I am in test on 137775 qrss60, 300 W until 22:00z > Your reports will be welcome > 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj > > > > > > =20 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me07.mx.aol.com (rly-me07.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.41]) by air-me04.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME041-9c749c780531a2; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 08:28:26 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me07.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME073-9c749c780531a2; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 08:28:06 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LljG6-0006jx-E1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 12:28:02 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LljG6-0006jo-2E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 12:28:02 +0000 Received: from qw-out-1920.google.com ([74.125.92.144]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LljG3-0005Se-5u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 12:28:01 +0000 Received: by qw-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 5so1039634qwc.16 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 05:27:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=c/cfGgXbJyvAil3SaWfGn3S6I+WIajSwSZoNOXhiwnA=; b=e+15sANAXPIe57VGwCcUNl+j7oZxzmYbUTi3878GZ68sVjnk1nAE9uxxL/M4V7QjsS Iu11xFzWpHam9rG5ATPFlfGwQ23xi4JiWDNESDSO1rKmWderLJ36eOltsjI2T4bGl4Go wTeJ1fnSGoh+tYFjrSMaDNKydhN8ER1I2Tz1M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=s2PU+oYdC5ut1yUMF8SPXeyJOoaaMmuql60S7mzZvrBkHJ5sW2O+HOaynVQ8qu0X5u looB69yW3zYUkHTvPfFQzC07SiZIio4+3NnWARkU9322URcQjnahHH7PAp5rCEKuKhbK AGQLi8HgM++bjCmbz8xpcm+5StCLRdjTkdCRU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.15.10 with SMTP id i10mr8748126qaa.11.1237811277215; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 05:27:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <6D5F38706EE348D3BC8A9202CE57C5FD@ns94d01ae4d850> References: <6D5F38706EE348D3BC8A9202CE57C5FD@ns94d01ae4d850> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 08:27:57 -0400 Message-ID: <57a24ca70903230527u2e6c7depa584090feb8b01f@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: XGJ 23-03.jpg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d272.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Henny, Great capture, thank you! -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 2009/3/23 henny van elst : > Hi Warren and Lf, > capture XGJ > Henny pa3cpm > best 73s > > et bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden > verzonden: > XGJ 23-03.jpg > > Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen > het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. > Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe > bijlagen worden afgehandeld. -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg07.mx.aol.com (rly-dg07.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.91]) by air-dg02.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDG024-5d949bd6638fa; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 16:34:19 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg07.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG072-5d949bd6638fa; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 16:34:02 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lix1h-00006q-4U for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 20:33:41 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lix1g-00006h-88 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 20:33:40 +0000 Received: from mout4.freenet.de ([195.4.92.94]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lix1e-0005I4-Ed for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 20:33:40 +0000 Received: from [195.4.92.17] (helo=7.mx.freenet.de) by mout4.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID beckmann.erlangen@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #76) id 1Lix1d-0006JG-0V; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 21:33:37 +0100 Received: from w1813.w.pppool.de ([89.58.24.19]:4553 helo=2a2d7ed321c6425) by 7.mx.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID beckmann.erlangen@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #79) id 1Lix1Z-0001eT-OG; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 21:33:36 +0100 From: "Beckmann, Gerhard" To: Cc: "'Chris Osborn'" References: <661888.79627.qm@web28507.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <0ADA06CA43A34FB2A0AF972E6D77252A@2a2d7ed321c6425> Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 21:33:31 +0100 Message-ID: <0D4B40D74E95431CB1D9C0492A9FEB2B@2a2d7ed321c6425> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: AclxcDZq9dgJStjFRyyzJejyT3EpWgAZTqFQDC15OiAAyFt0oA== In-Reply-To: X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Subject: LF: G3XIZ calling CQ in normal CW Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0010_01C9A5B5.B1EA8490" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C9A5B5.B1EA8490 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Chris, Group, =20 Again I am receiving your CQ-Call in Normal CW-Mode !!! on 502.7 kHz loud an= d clear,=20 vy fine audible here in JN59LN.=20 =20 Sri, I don=E2=80=99t have a possibility for a crossband QSO on 3.566 MHz at=20= the moment. =20 vy 73 de Gerhard // DK6NI =20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =20 _____ =20 Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blackshe= ep.org] Im Auftrag von Beckmann, Gerhard Gesendet: Donnerstag, 8. Januar 2009 22:43 An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Cc: 'Chris Osborn' Betreff: LF: 500 kHz - Silent majority =20 Hallo Chris, =20 just now I read your sad message about reducing your CW-activities on 500 kc= . Because this band is unfortunately still not released for German radio amate= urs, I am often listening for stations in CW- and QRSS - Mode, and I am alwa= ys happy to hear someone on this very interesting frequency. Also it should be taken into consideration, that not all OM=E2=80=99s are fa= miliar with the new Digital Modes on this experimental band. So I would be very happy if there would operate some OM=E2=80=99s still in t= he =E2=80=9Ctraditional modes=E2=80=9D. Last but not least only these modes are allowing crossband.QSO=E2=80=99s whi= ch are making our hobby somewhat more interesting. =20 vy 73 de Gerhard / DK6NI =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 _____ =20 Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blackshe= ep.org] Im Auftrag von Chris Osborn Gesendet: Donnerstag, 8. Januar 2009 10:02 An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Betreff: LF: 500 kHz - Silent majority =20 I deduce that my (fairly) frequent transmissions on MF may be causing some annoyance and inconvenience to local stations. =20 Consequently I shall be QRT on 500 kHz for the remainder of this month. This will give local stations an opportunity to use a quiet band without G3XIZ QRM. =20 I must report that sadly Adrian G4GDR has dismantled his MF equipment and returned his N.O.V. to OfCom. He was an active and keen MF operator and constructor but has lost interest=20= due to lack of activity. I for one will miss him. =20 73 Chris G3XIZ =20 =20 =20 _____ =20 From: Dave G3WCB To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Monday, 5 January, 2009 22:22:55 Subject: RE: LF: Re: Silent majority =EF=BB=BF=20 Dear LF,=20 =20 Geri DK8KW and Markus did some interesting slow-voice experiments on 137 kHz= a few years back.=20 =20 Definitely not a DX-mode, and a bit of a bandwidth-gobbler too ;-) =20 Follow the link below:-=20 =20 http://www.qru.de/slowvoice.html =20 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM =20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep..org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacks= heep.org]On Behalf Of M0FMT Sent: 05 January 2009 02:37 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep..org Subject: Re: LF: Re: Silent majority Hi LF=20 Since by general consent the 600m band is now wide open for experimentation=20= of whatever computer aided mode that can be down loaded for free off the Int= ernet. Might I suggest the use of SSTV. They say a picture is worth a 1000 w= ords. I have thousands of holiday snaps I would like to share with the world= by way of a 24/7 beaconing experiment. The result may be a bit more intere= sting than the shopping lists of stations worked, equipment lists and rig sp= ecifications that get churned out ad nauseam over the weekends.=20 I am not sure what my afore mentioned local Amateur Radio 600m op friends wo= uld feel being only a few miles away from my QTH.=20 No, the above suggestion is ridiculous. It does however, Einstein, Planck et= al withstanding, beg the question; what is a suitable maximum bandwidth for= the development of new modes on our British 3Kc/s 600m band? I will start=20= the ball rolling by saying a BW no more than 50c/s. G3PLX managed with less=20= than 32c/s BW. Since there is a QSB / QRN issue on this band then hand shaki= ng could be introduced to ensure error free data transfer a bit like X25 slo= w but sure yet confined in a very narrow bandwidth say 50c/s max. We need t= o think outside the box and not try to shoe horn unsuitable modes onto 600m.= To evoke names like Planck and co with all due respect to Alberto (who I ad= mire immensely for his great innovations with DSP, SDR, FFT processing softw= are) I think, is over the top. Nobody is into book burning and denial of sp= ectrum to impede progress but we only have 3kc/s to play with here in the UK= . I consider myself a =E2=80=9Cgrunt=E2=80=9D operator not a highflying=20= =E2=80=9CEinstein=E2=80=9D radio spectrum quantum mechanic, but I would hope= we are trying to do more with less and I don=E2=80=99t think Olivia is the=20= answer. Whatever modes are proposed and developed, I would expect one of the= cardinal points in their specification, along with very narrow BW, to be co= mpatibility with adjacent modes like CW and the effect on adjacent stations=20= not running that particular mode.=20 In the mean time I am hoping to improve my manual CW skills assuming there a= re any stations still interested in that form of error correcting narrow ban= d data transfer and are still prepared to QSO with me.=20 Now retreating into my cave with my knuckles dragging along the ground.=20 Vy 73 petefmt=20 --- On Mon, 5/1/09, Alberto di Bene wrote: From: Alberto di Bene Subject: LF: Re: Silent majority To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Monday, 5 January, 2009, 12:05 AM Steve McDonald wrote: >> There is virtually nothing new to discover or invent that has not already >> taken place on MF. >=20 > There you go guys. You may as well stop your 600m experiments right now as > Mal has proclaimed that there is "nothing new to discover". Wouldn't it be > wonderful if we could all see the future as clearly as he apparently does. > What an amazing gift. >=20 > VE7SL / Steve =20 This reminds me what Max Planck did write at the beginning of past century. At the turn of the 20th century scientists were absolutely certain that ther= e was nothing more to be discovered in theoretical physics. Max Planck, recalling the mood of optimism and conviction at that time, wrot= e: =20 =E2=80=9CWhen I began my physical studies [in Munich in 1874] and sought adv= ice from my venerable teacher Phillipp von Jolly... he portrayed to me physics as a highly developed almost fully matured science.... Possibly in one or another nook there would perhaps be a dust particle or a small bubble to be examined and classified, but the system as a whole stood there fairly secured, and theoretical physics approached visibly that degree of perfection which, for example, geometry has had already for centuries=E2=80=9D. =20 The history of physics during the 20th century did show how dumb was that point of view... =20 73 Alberto I2PHD =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C9A5B5.B1EA8490 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello Chris, G= roup,

 

Again I am rec= eiving your CQ-Call in Normal CW-Mode !!! on 502.7 kHz loud and clear,

vy fine audibl= e here in JN59LN.

 

Sri, I don=E2= =80=99t have a possibility for a crossband QSO on 3.566 MHz at the moment.

 

vy 73 de Gerha= rd  //  DK6NI

 

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Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von Beckmann, Gerhard
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 8. Janu= ar 2009 22:43
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Cc: 'Chris Osborn'
Betreff: LF: 500 kHz - Silent majority

 

Hallo Chris,<= o:p>

 

just now I read your sad message about r= educing your CW-activities on 500 kc.

Because this band= is unfortunately still not released for German radio amateurs, I am often listening for stations in CW- and QRSS - Mode, and I am always happy to hear someone on this very interesting frequency.

Also it should be taken into consideration, that not=20= all OM=E2=80=99s are familiar with the n= ew Digital Modes on this experimental band.

So I would be very happy if there would operate some=20= OM=E2=80=99s still in the =E2=80=9Ctradi= tional modes=E2=80=9D.

Last but not least only these modes are allowing cros= sband.QSO=E2=80=99s which are making our hobby somewhat more interesting.

 

vy 73 de Gerhard  /  DK6NI

 

 

 

 

 =

Von:= owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g] Im Auftrag von Chris Osborn
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 8. Janu= ar 2009 10:02
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Betreff: LF: 500 kHz - Silent majority

 

I deduce that my (fairly) frequent transmissions on MF m= ay be causing

some annoyance and inconvenience to local stations.=

 

Consequently I shall be QRT on 500 kHz for the remainder= of this month.

This will give local stations an opportunity to use = ;a quiet band without

G3XIZ QRM.

 

I must report that sadly Adrian G4GDR has dismantled his= MF equipment

and returned his N.O.V. to OfCom.

He was an active and keen MF operator and constructor bu= t has lost interest due

to lack of activity.

I for one will miss him.

 

73 Chris G3XIZ

 


 

 

From: Dave G3WCB <ganymede444@btopenworld.com>
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Sent: Monday, 5 January, 2009 22:22:55
Subject: RE: LF: Re: Silent majority

=EF=BB=BF

Dear LF, =

 

Geri DK8KW and Markus d= id some interesting slow-voice experiments on 137 kHz a few years back.

 

Definitely not a DX-mod= e, and a bit of a bandwidth-gobbler too ;-)

 

Follow the link below:-=

 

 

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM

 =

-----Original Mess= age-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@bla= cksheep..org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of M0F= MT
Sent: 05 January 2009 02:37 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= .org
Subject: Re: LF: Re: Silent majority

Hi LF

Since by=20= general consent the 600m band is now wide open for experimentation of whatever computer aided mode that can be down loaded for free off the Internet. Might I suggest th= e use of SSTV. They say a picture is worth a 1000 words. I have thousands of holiday snaps I would like to share with the world by way of a 24/7 beacon= ing experiment.  The result may be a bit more interesting than the shoppi= ng lists of stations worked, equipment lists and rig specifications that get churned out ad nauseam over th= e weekends.

I am not=20= sure what my afore mentioned local Amateur Radio 600m op friends would feel being only a few miles away from my QTH.

No, the a= bove suggestion is ridiculous. It does however, Einstein, Planck et al withstanding, beg t= he question; what is a suitable maximum bandwidth for the development of new modes on our British 3Kc/s 600m band?  I will start the ball rolling=20= by saying a BW no more than 50c/s. G3PLX managed with less than 32c/s BW. Sin= ce there is a QSB / QRN issue on this band then hand shaking could be introdu= ced to ensure error free data transfer a bit like X25 slow but sure yet confin= ed in a very narrow bandwidth say 50c/s max.  We need to think outside t= he box and not try to shoe horn unsuitable modes onto 600m. To evoke names li= ke Planck and co with all due respect to Alberto (who I admire immensely for=20= his great innovations with DSP, SDR, FFT processing software) I think,  i= s over the top. Nobody is into book burning and denial of spectrum to impede progress but we only have 3kc/s to play with here in the UK.  I consi= der myself a =E2=80=9Cgrunt=E2=80=9D operator not a highflying =E2=80=9CEinste= in=E2=80=9D radio spectrum quantum mechanic, but I would hope we are trying to do more with less and I don= =E2=80=99t think Olivia is the answer. Whatever modes are proposed and developed, I would expect one of the cardinal points in their specification, along with very narrow BW, to be compatibility with adjacent modes like CW and the effect on adjacent stations not running that particular mode.

In the me= an time I am hoping to improve my manual CW skills assuming there are any stations still interest= ed in that form of error correcting narrow band data transfer and are still prepared to QSO with me.

Now retre= ating into my cave with my knuckles dragging along the ground.

Vy 73 pet= efmt



--- On Mon, 5/1/09, Alberto di Bene <dibene@usa.net> wrote:

From: Alberto di Bene <dibene@usa.net>
Subject: LF: Re: Silent majority
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Monday, 5 January, 2009, 12:05 AM

=
Steve McDonald wrote:
>> There is virtu=
ally nothing new to discover or invent that has not=

already
>> taken place on MF.
> 
> There=
 you go guys. You may as well stop your 600m experiments right now as
> Mal has proclaimed that there is "nothing=
 new to discover".
Wouldn't it be
> wonderful if we could all see the future as cl=
early as he apparently does.
> What an ama=
zing gift.
> 
> VE7SL / Steve
 
This reminds me what Max Planck did write at the beginning of=
 past century.
At the turn of the 20th centur=
y scientists were absolutely certain that there
was nothing more to be discovered in theoretical physics.
Max Planck, recalling the mood of optimism and conviction at=
 that time, wrote:
 
=E2=80=9CWhen I began my physical studies [in Munich in 1874] an=
d sought advice from
my venerable teacher Phi=
llipp von Jolly... he portrayed to me physics as a<=
/pre>
highly developed almost fully matured science.... Possibly in one or a=
nother
nook there would perhaps be a dust par=
ticle or a small bubble to be examined
and cl=
assified, but the system as a whole stood there fairly secured, and
theoretical physics approached visibly that degree of=
 perfection which,
for example, geometry has=20=
had already for centuries=E2=80=9D.
&nbs=
p;
The history of physics during the 20th century=20=
did show how dumb was that
point of view...<=
o:p>
 
73 =
; Alberto  I2PHD
 
 
 
 

 

 

------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C9A5B5.B1EA8490-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg06.mx.aol.com (rly-dg06.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.90]) by air-dg03.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDG034-5cf49c0edab19; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 08:49:12 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg06.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG062-5cf49c0edab19; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 08:48:46 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LjvCA-0006KF-Ak for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 12:48:30 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LjvC9-0006K6-6J for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 12:48:29 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-4-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.55]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LjvC6-00017X-RA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 12:48:29 +0000 X-Trace: 165424636/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.59.96/None/g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.59.96 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Microsoft Office Outlook 11Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvIHACOKwElYajtg/2dsb2JhbACCUlQxE4U6fYNixTcHg3UG X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,384,1233532800"; d="gif'147?scan'147,208,217,147";a="165424636" Received: from 88-106-59-96.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.59.96]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 18 Mar 2009 12:48:23 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <005501c9a73b$dd0b8ac0$6401a8c0@asus> <007901c9a74b$9e595450$6401a8c0@asus> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 12:48:22 -0000 Message-ID: <000f01c9a7c7$d31e2b30$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AcmnvI5OJ/MzBfN+Q/agynQ2sfR4ygACv48g X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: RE: LF: RE: Who's playing on 503.7 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0010_01C9A7C7.D31E2B30" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C9A7C7.D31E2B30 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0011_01C9A7C7.D3209C30" ------=_NextPart_001_0011_01C9A7C7.D3209C30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit OK Andy, Yes, they looked the same strength as your main beacon signal. Thanks for the previous mail containing the brief explanation of the SNR feature. 73 Gary - G4WGT. _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Andy Talbot Sent: 18 March 2009 11:24 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: RE: Who's playing on 503.7 I sometimes flick the test switch and send a carrier - so you're probably seeing those. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/3/17 Gary - G4WGT Andy, >>>> Did the messages about the modified beacon timing software get though this reflector - don't appear to see them in the in box? I received the original & the correction to the url. OK, I used "decode" as the first word that came out of my head. I have looked at the black trace on my beacon chart & it doesn't seem to coincide with the peaks on the blue & green trace, there is a black peak but slightly offset. On my grabber saves there is very high noise level for a couple of minutes some times the blue & green has a peak which shows on the text log as well. But I have also seen very short carriers which I thought at first were part of you normal beacon signal & when looking carefully at the timestamp were at the following times - 1735, 1750 & 1751. At these times there was no burst of noise. Cheers, Gary - G4WGT. _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Andy Talbot Sent: 17 March 2009 20:36 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: RE: Who's playing on 503.7 continued ... The black trace gives it away. If there is extended QRM that spans the noise measurement period (which is the WHOLE minute before) and the 5s Tx period it will show up on both. The different system of noise measurement explains why the (no QRMed) green and blue traces are not sitting on top of teh black trace. Ideally, with no signal there, they should. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/3/17 Andy Talbot I filled in a couple at 1800, deliberately, by flicking the test switch on my beacon Tx. But there are too many peaks on the green annd blue traces to not suspect someone else is firing up a Tx. Its not a case of false decodes - there's not such thing as a 'decode' with this monitoring S/W. All it does is to measure the signal power over precisely this time slot, using a synchronised FFT with a bin size of 0.2Hz, which after windowing gives about 0.4Hz noise bandwidth. So any QRM would have to be quite strong to make a significant impact, and persist over 5 seconds. Short spikes get averaged out to not-a-lot. Did the messages about the modified beacon timing software get though this reflector - don't appear to see them in the in box? If not, http://www.g4jnt.com/beacons.htm at the bottom look for PCBCN Directly, http://www.g4jnt.com/PCBCN.zip Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/3/17 Gary - G4WGT Hi Andy, LF, I have not detected anything here other than your Tx. I was going to e-mail anyway because I have some false decodes on the 5 & 6 minute slots, see list below. These coincide with high bursts of noise which I experience here from time to time. Is there an issue with the decode software being "foxed" by high noise level? Gary - G4WGT. 15:45 40.35 25.76 -240.0 0.0 15:46 41.05 25.76 -240.0 1499.5 15:47 39.52 25.76 -240.0 0.0 16:00 41.70 25.75 -240.0 1499.5 16:01 41.62 25.75 -240.0 1510.6 16:02 31.49 25.75 -240.0 0.0 16:15 40.10 25.47 -240.0 0.0 16:16 30.16 25.47 -240.0 0.0 16:17 29.17 25.47 -240.0 0.0 16:30 37.85 28.93 -240.0 0.0 16:31 41.80 28.93 -240.0 0.0 16:32 36.23 28.93 -240.0 0.0 16:45 40.98 25.80 -240.0 1499.6 16:46 29.45 25.80 -240.0 0.0 16:47 30.17 25.80 -240.0 0.0 17:00 35.23 25.58 -240.0 0.0 17:01 28.35 25.58 -240.0 0.0 17:02 35.28 25.58 -240.0 0.0 17:15 45.32 25.10 -240.0 1499.4 17:16 30.14 25.10 -240.0 0.0 17:17 27.57 25.10 -240.0 0.0 17:30 51.09 25.30 -240.0 1499.5 17:31 53.16 25.30 -240.0 1499.6 17:32 30.18 25.30 -240.0 0.0 17:45 47.93 25.21 -240.0 1499.5 17:46 48.63 25.21 -240.0 1499.5 17:47 49.12 25.21 -240.0 1499.5 18:00 38.75 34.29 -240.0 0.0 18:01 32.01 34.29 -240.0 0.0 18:02 28.89 34.29 -240.0 0.0 18:15 51.36 26.01 -240.0 1499.6 18:16 38.85 26.01 -240.0 0.0 18:17 40.74 26.01 -240.0 0.0 18:30 43.06 24.96 -240.0 1499.5 18:31 29.24 24.96 -240.0 0.0 18:32 29.61 24.96 -240.0 0.0 18:45 36.98 26.26 -240.0 0.0 18:46 34.87 26.26 -240.0 0.0 18:47 36.14 26.26 -240.0 0.0 19:00 50.09 26.57 -240.0 1499.7 19:01 42.04 26.57 -240.0 1518.0 19:02 28.58 26.57 -240.0 0.0 _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Andy Talbot Sent: 17 March 2009 19:48 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Who's playing on 503.7 OK, Who is it? We can see you There's activity in the 5 and 6 minutes slots. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com ------=_NextPart_001_0011_01C9A7C7.D3209C30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

OK Andy,=

&nb= sp;

Yes, they looked the same strength as your main beacon signal.<= /font>

&nb= sp;

Thanks for the previous mail containing the brief explanation of the SNR feature.

&nb= sp;

73<= /o:p>

&nb= sp;

Gary = 211; G4WGT.

&nb= sp;

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Andy Talbot
Sent: 18 March 2009 11:24
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: RE: Who's pl= aying on 503.7

 

I sometimes flick the test switch and send a carrier= - so you're probably seeing those.

 

Andy  G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com

2009/3/17 Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>

Andy,

 <= o:p>

>>>> Did the messages about the modified beacon timing software get though this reflector - don't appear to see them in the in box?

I received the original &= amp; the correction to the url.

 <= o:p>

OK, I used “decode&= #8221; as the first word that came out of my head.

 <= o:p>

I have looked at the blac= k trace on my beacon chart & it doesn’t seem to coincide with the peaks on= the blue & green trace, there is a black peak but slightly offset. On my grabber saves there is very high noise level for a couple of minutes some times the blue & green has a peak which shows on the text log as well.

 <= o:p>

But I have also seen very= short carriers which I thought at first were part of you normal beacon signal &= ; when looking carefully at the timestamp were at the following times –=20= 1735, 1750 & 1751. At these times there was no burst of noise.

 <= o:p>

Cheers,=

 <= o:p>

Gary - G4WGT.

 <= o:p>

 <= o:p>

 <= o:p>

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Andy Talbot
Sent: 17 March 2009 20:36

Subject: Re: LF: RE: Who's playing on 503.7 <= o:p>

=  

= continued ....

=  

= The black trace gives it away.  If there is extended  QRM that spans  t= he noise measurement period (which is the WHOLE minute before) and the 5s Tx period it will show up on both.   The different system of noise measurement explains why the (no QRMed) green and blue traces are not sitting on top of teh black trace.   Ideally, with no signal there= , they should.


Andy  G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com

= 2009/3/17 Andy Talbot <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>

= I filled in a couple at 1800, deliberately, by flicking the test switch on my beacon Tx.   But there are too many peaks on the green annd blue traces to not suspect someone else is firing up a Tx.=

=  

= Its not a case of false decodes - there's not such thing as a 'decode' with this monitoring S/W.   All it does is to measure the signal power over precisely  this time slot, using a synchronised FFT with a bin size of 0.2Hz, which after windowing gives about 0.4Hz noise bandwidth.  So any QRM would have to be quite strong to make a significant impact, and persist over 5 seconds.   Short spikes get  averaged out to not-a-lot.

=  

= Did the messages about the modified beacon timing software get though this reflector= - don't appear to see them in the in box?

=  

=  


Andy  G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com

= 2009/3/17 Gary - G4WGT <g4= wgt@tiscali.co.uk>

=  

Hi Andy, LF,

 <= o:p>

I have not detected anyth= ing here other than your Tx.

 <= o:p>

I was going to e-mail any= way because I have some false decodes on the 5 & 6 minute slots, see list below. These coincide with high bursts of noise which I experience here from time to time. Is there an issue with the decode software being “foxed&= #8221; by high noise level?

 <= o:p>

Gary – G4WGT.

 <= o:p>

15:45  40.35  25.76  -240.0  0.0

15:46  41.05  25.76  -240.0  1499.5

15:47  39.52  25.76  -240.0  0.0

16:00  41.70  25.75  -240.0  1499.5

16:01  41.62  25.75  -240.0  1510.6

16:02  31.49  25.75  -240.0  0.0

16:15  40.10  25.47  -240.0  0.0

16:16  30.16  25.47  -240.0  0.0

16:17  29.17  25.47  -240.0  0.0

16:30  37.85  28.93  -240.0  0.0

16:31  41.80  28.93  -240.0  0.0

16:32  36.23  28.93  -240.0  0.0

16:45  40.98  25.80  -240.0  1499.6

16:46  29.45  25.80  -240.0  0.0

16:47  30.17  25.80  -240.0  0.0

17:00  35.23  25.58  -240.0  0.0

17:01  28.35  25.58  -240.0  0.0

17:02  35.28  25.58  -240.0  0.0

17:15  45.32  25.10  -240.0  1499.4

17:16  30.14  25.10  -240.0  0.0

17:17  27.57  25.10  -240.0  0.0

17:30  51.09  25.30  -240.0  1499.5

17:31  53.16  25.30  -240.0  1499.6

17:32  30.18  25.30  -240.0  0.0

17:45  47.93  25.21  -240.0  1499.5

17:46  48.63  25.21  -240.0  1499.5

17:47  49.12  25.21  -240.0  1499.5

18:00  38.75  34.29  -240.0  0.0

18:01  32.01  34.29  -240.0  0.0

18:02  28.89  34.29  -240.0  0.0

18:15  51.36  26.01  -240.0  1499.6

18:16  38.85  26.01  -240.0  0.0

18:17  40.74  26.01  -240.0  0.0

18:30  43.06  2= 4.96  -240.0  1499.5

18:31  29.24  24.96  -240.0  0.0

18:32  29.61  24.96  -240.0  0.0

18:45  36.98  26.26  -240.0  0.0

18:46  34.87  26.26  -240.0  0.0

18:47  36.14  26.26  -240.0  0.0

19:00  50.09  26.57  -240.0  1499.7

19:01  42.04  26.57  -240.0  1518.0

19:02  28.58  26.57  -240.0  0.0

 <= o:p>

 <= o:p>

 <= o:p>

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Andy Talbot
Sent: 17 March 2009 19:48
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Who's playing on 503.7

=  

= OK, Who is it? <= o:p>

= We can see you

= There's activity in the 5 and 6 minutes slots.

=  

=  

=
Andy  G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com

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------=_NextPart_001_0011_01C9A7C7.D3209C30-- ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C9A7C7.D31E2B30 Content-Type: image/gif; name="image001.gif" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-ID: R0lGODlhDAAPAKIFAJh3AP/zxAAAANyuAP/gaP///wAAAAAAACH/C05FVFNDQVBFMi4wAwEA AAAh+QQJAAAFACwAAAAADAAPAAADLVi63P6wjEmrDDjrGYj/H0cIIElwpJmeQweC4hu2BGDf nnjjrLvPLtlJUikWEgAh+QQJAAAFACwAAAAADAAPAAADLVi63M4jyllGuDjHQLr3GyF8I7GN JWpaXxu2IAvMdBfS9coReLzDpspk+HAkAAAh+QQJCgAFACwAAAAADAAPAAADLVi6vPMwlhGq vS+QzXkmQhcSWTiaJNWt3+qpQCxvnzynGmG/uUtOkWBjSCQmAAAh+QQJFAAFACwAAAAADAAP AAADLViz3BowyhWIvZcSgTmhnBd+Q4Vh2pmVBOC+lvbCpDmvpvopTV/8wKBwSCwWEgAh+QQJ CgAFACwAAAAADAAPAAADLVi6vPMwlhGqvS+QzXkmQhcSWTiaJNWt3+qpQCxvnzynGmG/uUtO kWBjSCQmAAAh+QQFAAAFACwAAAAADAAPAAADLVi63M4jyllGuDjHQLr3GyF8I7GNJWpaXxu2 IAvMdBfS9coReLzDpspk+HAkAAA7 ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C9A7C7.D31E2B30-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf02.mx.aol.com (rly-mf02.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.172]) by air-mf04.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMF043-94749bfda3e302; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 13:13:59 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf02.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF025-94749bfda3e302; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 13:13:36 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ljcqo-0004GH-Jr for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 17:13:14 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ljcqo-0004G8-1o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 17:13:14 +0000 Received: from qw-out-1920.google.com ([74.125.92.146]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ljcql-0001JT-4q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 17:13:13 +0000 Received: by qw-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 5so97182qwc.16 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 10:13:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=9crJny9BTST53TyTJ1NTpPoeDN2mENc2Z7aUbsxjO5k=; b=UGYuJ6UhKWC/hzjDzJ6Dsl/Tk7/kHriNc3aQLOUJ4Lc12txnSRL6U5E8co+/NLkLOk uUDmqQ5C9DY9CcHe2aEVKu3TyPsEWrCp2lESWWAK69Yh/KAfs4+FUgK7XMc4awotjU2G /QeTMIMcauxsugCxHO4qkpB/bGQwLt6iIRziQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=L41bMJk3zswL99vyvS9ZNGdvnlrEwKmxD7FIzQ7aFdNP+qQKF9Z3C9Bc+0Qk0vhA2F /n4zIbxBTaBw9qakKVwkAmtrViDlJ72iTOjoFRhoZnCix8x0XRfD+rPB1whl3YfBqW79 ThsjNz18bqtg8GRSoxvFWIRGTnzckX6xEXJRY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.19.202 with SMTP id c10mr429114qab.233.1237309989265; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 10:13:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <200903162257.53821.ve8rt@xplornet.com> References: <200903141634.37933.ve8rt@xplornet.com> <200903151858.47737.ve8rt@xplornet.com> <57a24ca70903160704s1c191506u94d531226b6f9e9a@mail.gmail.com> <200903162257.53821.ve8rt@xplornet.com> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 12:13:09 -0500 Message-ID: <57a24ca70903171013g75b31fa7s391fbfb237171d45@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Getting started, maybe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m225.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Ron, If you make an e-probe it should cover both bands. From what I hear it shouldn't be long before Canada gets 137 and possibly 500kHz amateur allocations so it wouldn't hurt to get a jump on things. Also more U.S. experimenters will be coming on line, possibly a couple in Alaska which might be good for you. NDBs are a good target as well. In fact my 500kHz transmitter was previously in service up in your neck of the woods, at the Nahanni Butte airport. 500kHz is similar to the MW BC band, most signals will be skywave after da= rk. --=20 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 11:57 PM, Ron Thompson wrote: > Hi Warrren, > > =A0 and thanks to both Daves, Grahm and Mike. =A0I've checked out the webs= ites > suggested and may go ahead with a basic receiving set up. =A0Non-direction= al > beacons on the MF band are still widely used here for enroute air navigati= on > and would give me an idea of what propagation on the 600 metre band may be > like. > > =A0 What is the mode of propagation on 600 metres, primarily ground wave?=20= =A0How > much influence does space weather have on the MF band, does the band black > out like the HF bands? > > =A0 =A0another question, would there be any advantage to going lower, to t= he > 137KHz band? > > =A0 =A0Thanks, > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Ron > > On Monday 16 March 2009 08:04, Warren Ziegler wrote: >> Ron, >> >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Not to throw a wet blanket over your ambitions, but it wi= ll be >> very challenging (to put it mildly) for you to hear 500kHz amateur >> activity. >> The nearest active stations are thousands of miles away and you are >> under the auroral oval which really does a good job absorbing MF/HF >> signals. >> Rudy in Oregon was the closest signal and that was over 2000kM away! >> >> You never know, you might pick up one of the big guns under ideal >> conditions but it's always good to have realistic expectations. >> - >> 73 Warren K2ORS >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 WD2XGJ >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 WD2XSH/23 >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 WE2XEB/2 >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 WE2XGR/1 >> >> On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 8:58 PM, Ron Thompson wrote: >> > Hi Graham, >> > >> > =A0 =A0my actual location is at postal code X1A 2H5 >> > >> > =A0 =A0I'm in the company crew house at the float base. =A0In the Googl= e map >> > for the postal code, at the highest available satellite magnification, >> > you should see floatplanes along the parking lot and then in a cove on >> > the upper side of the parking lot is a yellow Cessna floatplane. =A0The >> > house just to the left of the floatplane is where I live. =A0Unfortunat= ely, >> > as the house is in the floatbase parking lot, there isn't any antenna >> > space around it. =A0What I do have is two 15 metre towers spaced about=20= 48 >> > metres apart that I use for my HF antenna (it used to have a company >> > commercial HF antenna before). =A0Any LF/MF antenna must be compact and >> > mountable either to the house or one of the towers. =A0Power lines are >> > between the house and cove, which may be a noise source. >> > >> > =A0 =A0 =A0Ron > > -- > Ron Thompson, VE8RT > Yellowknife, NT, Canada > 62 28.060 N =A0114 20.648 W =A0Grid Square DP22tl > "Who are are these that fly as a cloud, and as doves to their window?" Is=20= 60:8 > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df05.mx.aol.com (rly-df05.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.18]) by air-df06.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDF061-55349cfc66219f; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 15:05:26 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df05.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF058-55349cfc66219f; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 15:05:07 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lo0J6-0004k3-5e for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 20:04:32 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lo0J5-0004ju-NW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 20:04:31 +0100 Received: from mbox2.netikka.net ([213.250.81.203]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lo0J3-0007m7-WF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 20:04:31 +0100 Received: from mbox2-vams.netikka.net (mbox2 [127.0.0.1]) by mbox2-scanned.netikka.net (Postfix) with SMTP id AF125408093 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 22:04:23 +0300 (EEST) Received: from imp1.netikka.net (imp1.netikka.net [213.250.85.154]) by mbox2.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9E55408093 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 22:04:23 +0300 (EEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by imp1.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A246E495BA3 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 22:04:23 +0300 (EEST) Received: from 558602b6.adsl.multi.fi (558602b6.adsl.multi.fi [85.134.2.182]) by imp.netikka.net (IMP) with HTTP for ; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 22:04:23 +0300 Message-ID: <1238353463.49cfc63798ce5@imp.netikka.net> Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 22:04:23 +0300 From: Paul-Henrik To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <006b01c9b080$7127b560$0900a8c0@AM> In-Reply-To: <006b01c9b080$7127b560$0900a8c0@AM> MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.6 X-Originating-IP: 85.134.2.182 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: SM6BHZ in J3E/USB with someone on 505kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Gus, LF SM6BHZ just heard 59 testing J3E/USB on 505.0kHz (about 19.00UTC) with unidentified but received station having a 53 signal here. Very good signals! Antenna low 7x7x7m delta loop, RX IC-718 73's Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ Vaasa / KP03SD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me03.mx.aol.com (rly-me03.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.36]) by air-me07.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINME074-9a649b3a06b332; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 06:39:52 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me03.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME032-9a649b3a06b332; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 06:39:40 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LgGPv-0002xc-Up for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 10:39:35 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LgGPv-0002xT-Jq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 10:39:35 +0000 Received: from psmtp09.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.23]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LgGPu-00045f-VG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 10:39:35 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp09.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KG600392O9T3X@psmtp09.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 11:39:29 +0100 (MET) Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2009 11:39:25 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 184khz Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_cXYKT3AwXGfpD8EE+ETaZQ)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_cXYKT3AwXGfpD8EE+ETaZQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Hi Joe,lf nil on the screen, henny cpm. --Boundary_(ID_cXYKT3AwXGfpD8EE+ETaZQ) Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
Hi Joe,lf
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That should have read http://www.g4jnt.com/PCBCN.zip

Andy =A0G4JNT
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2009/3/17 Andy Talbot <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>
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--001636c59978b4c9970465530b92-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf10.mx.aol.com (rly-mf10.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.180]) by air-mf05.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMF051-98349c0351730c; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 19:41:27 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf10.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF101-98349c0351730c; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 19:41:13 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ljiti-0000Si-FS for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 23:40:38 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ljiti-0000SZ-0Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 23:40:38 +0000 Received: from mout0.freenet.de ([195.4.92.90]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ljitf-0005xC-Q3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 23:40:37 +0000 Received: from [195.4.92.21] (helo=11.mx.freenet.de) by mout0.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID beckmann.erlangen@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #79) id 1Ljitc-00051Z-Jc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 00:40:32 +0100 Received: from w1c54.w.pppool.de ([89.58.28.84]:1690 helo=2a2d7ed321c6425) by 11.mx.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID beckmann.erlangen@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #76) id 1Ljitc-0002QZ-4j for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 00:40:32 +0100 From: "Beckmann, Gerhard" To: References: <005501c9a73b$dd0b8ac0$6401a8c0@asus> <007901c9a74b$9e595450$6401a8c0@asus> <66041B03F81A45649EE247A427F62B69@2a2d7ed321c6425> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 00:40:25 +0100 Message-ID: <59F3C058263D42149AB3FA6911A3576C@2a2d7ed321c6425> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: AcmnQGpNLR16XYh4TuCtDgP6Dpa1XwAB4GUQAAGZ+eAAAnaQYA== In-Reply-To: <66041B03F81A45649EE247A427F62B69@2a2d7ed321c6425> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: LF: Addition: GI4DPE in CW on 502.7 kHz at 22:27 UTC Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0076_01C9A762.24C0F9B0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=5.0 tests=HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN, HTML_MESSAGE,UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0076_01C9A762.24C0F9B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello LF, MF Good readability of normal CW-signals from GI4DPE in JN59LN on 502.7 kHz at 22:27 UTC (about 549 !!) GI4DPE is in QSO with G3GNR. (No copy of G3GNR in JN59LN, sri ) vy 73 de Gerhard / DK6NI (JN59LN) ========================= ------=_NextPart_000_0076_01C9A762.24C0F9B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

 

Hello LF, MF

 

Good readabilit= y of normal CW-signals from GI4DPE in JN59LN  = on 502.7 kHz at 22:27 UTC (about 549 !!)

GI4DPE is in QS= O with G3GNR.

(No copy of G3G= NR in JN59LN, sri )

 

vy 73 de Gerhard  /=    DK6NI   (JN59LN)

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------=_NextPart_000_0076_01C9A762.24C0F9B0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf10.mx.aol.com (rly-mf10.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.180]) by air-mf01.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMF013-98349c7eec0302; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 16:19:34 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf10.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF101-98349c7eec0302; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 16:19:15 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Llqc0-0001r8-0x for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:19:08 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Llqbz-0001qz-MB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:19:07 +0000 Received: from imo-m12.mx.aol.com ([64.12.143.100] helo=imo-m12.mail.aol.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Llqbs-0004kk-FI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:19:07 +0000 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-m12.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id l.cc1.50b0aa79 (34966) for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 16:14:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Silver (g229167006.adsl.alicedsl.de [92.229.167.6]) by cia-da07.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILCIADA073-889649c7edab20; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 16:14:37 -0400 Message-ID: <864ED1778706409D9A640FF89C5F22C7@Silver> From: "Markus Vester" To: Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:14:35 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: DJ8WX, braving the storm Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0010_01C9ABF3.FC56A830" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.1 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_40_50, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C9ABF3.FC56A830 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0011_01C9ABF3.FC56A830" ------=_NextPart_001_0011_01C9ABF3.FC56A830 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Good luck Uwe... de Markus, DF6NM ------=_NextPart_001_0011_01C9ABF3.FC56A830 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: References: <0566EF6DE20B4249A3E74859BF9BA2C6@AGB> <9C03FBF153AB478A9B0DBC5580CF20D2@AGB> <28FA0F184B25444F8BA2F1EC5FC42C04@AGB> In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 22:45:53 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8064.206 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8064.206 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 503.7 Multi-function beacon ... Its working ! Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_011C_01C99F76.78DF57B0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_011C_01C99F76.78DF57B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable So far so good .. quite a step up in signal round 2100 hrs =20 no frequency decode before then , 15 db over noise at 2130 but a trend showing=20 about 1 hour slow qsb=20 any other reports ? G ..=20 ------=_NextPart_000_011C_01C99F76.78DF57B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
So far so good .. quite a step up in signal= round=20 2100 hrs 
no frequency decode before then , 15 db ove= r noise=20 at 2130
 
but a trend showing
about  1 hour slow qsb
 
any other reports ?
 
G ..
 
------=_NextPart_000_011C_01C99F76.78DF57B0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md03.mx.aol.com (rly-md03.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.141]) by air-md02.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMD022-8f549beb8dc15d; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 16:39:37 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md03.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD035-8f549beb8dc15d; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 16:38:54 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LjJZy-00067Y-NC for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 20:38:34 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LjJZy-00067P-1T for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 20:38:34 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-2-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.53]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LjJZv-0001vM-8S for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 20:38:33 +0000 X-Trace: 167850870/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.59.96/None/g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.59.96 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Microsoft Office Outlook 11Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AjMFAA5VvklYajtg/2dsb2JhbACDJESGNoNcxzcHgi6BSgY X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,374,1233532800"; d="scan'208";a="167850870" Received: from 88-106-59-96.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.59.96]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 16 Mar 2009 20:38:30 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <009001c9a588$7eb02c60$6401a8c0@asus> <00e001c9a5a7$f07216a0$6401a8c0@asus> <826BA6086575402A8C87062492069F5A@AGB> <004501c9a623$a4bf81d0$6401a8c0@asus> <2ED02F4327204E3C903828F9E18AA72B@AGB> <001e01c9a665$ebeac870$6401a8c0@asus> <00be01c9a66e$c8bfdbc0$0900a8c0@AM> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 20:38:29 -0000 Message-ID: <004a01c9a677$2a8b48a0$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <00be01c9a66e$c8bfdbc0$0900a8c0@AM> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AcmmcDJ3Eyo2Ce0jRBSn2vvecaueYAABsuqA X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Alan, When you wrote :- my only comment is that you may have too much gain in the system. Are you meaning sound card or receiver gain? Gary. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Alan Melia Sent: 16 March 2009 19:38 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software Hi Gary my only comment is that you may have too much gain in the system. It is sometimes better to have the noise further down nearer the axis. I am afraid there is a major problem with this kind of beacon, when the fading period is shorter than the sampling interval, so you dont really know what the path is doing. The only reliable points are the peaks, the troughs dont really mean anything without some very sophisticated analysis and probably two spaced receivers. However it does give a snapshot of the band without taking up too much bandwidth (this was what was required for 5MHz too). Despite all the data collected very little analysis has actually be done on the 5MHz data collected by this program. The one succesfull bit of work was that published in Radcom by Marcis Walden G0IJZ. I used it for some time whilst Andy was testing the Poldhu beacon on 160m and also during the 1st two months that ran. I was certainly surprised by the daytime path on 160m from here. I have seen the data collected in Canada via Joe Craig VO1NA and it is difficult to see how to use it. Still if you dont collect the data you will never know!! Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 6:35 PM Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software > Hi Graham, LF, > > > > The original HTML Code for the 2 minute refresh is still inserted into the > page format, so upload is 30 minute intervals with Syncback & 2 minute > refresh. I have left the refresh in case I revert back to the original > grabber page. I will look at changing it if I continue to use the beacon > chart upload. > > > > I would like to have feedback from the LF group regarding the page, if you > check it out periodically, is it useful to you, what are you looking for. > > > > You can view the chart on my web site at :- > > > > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html > > > > 73 > > > > Gary - G4WGT. > > > > > > _____ > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham > Sent: 16 March 2009 17:20 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > Hi Gary, > > > > The page seemed to refresh quite often ... are there two settings ? > > > > G .. > > > > From: Gary - G4WGT > > Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:40 AM > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > Hi Graham, LF, > > > > You wrote :- > > >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute > intervals. <<< that could be backed off to 15 mins as the beacon only > sends every 15 ?? > > > > I mentioned in my previous mail to ignore the text on the page as it was > originally for grabber 1 for when I upgrade the web site (to a new design & > better navigation etc), also mentioned is that upload is every 30 minutes. > > > > If the uploaded chart proves useful or interesting to operators & viewers > then I will change the text & make it a permanent feature for the > foreseeable future. > > > > BTW :- > > > > For those of you who are not familiar with the chart - > > > > The RED trace is Andy's (G4JNT) beacon signal & the BLACK trace is the noise > level at my QTH. > > > > The Blue & GREEN are not in use & should be ignored on this chart as they > are for the other beacons used when monitoring on the 5MHz allocation. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Gary - G4WGT > > > > > > _____ > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham > Sent: 15 March 2009 22:17 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > Gary.. > > > > That looks good ... 0500 looks best time for a qso .. see you then Smile > emoticon > > > > >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute > intervals. <<< that could be backed off to 15 mins as the beacon only > sends every 15 ?? > > > > the 15 db over the noise in day time is the same at this qth .. looks like > the big dips round 1900 where just when we where testing .. typical hihi > > > > tnx- G .. > > > > From: Gary - G4WGT > > Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 7:55 PM > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > Subject: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > LF, > > > > I have now got the software, Syncback running correctly (I think). > > > > The purpose of this is to upload the chart from Andy's beacon as received > here to my web site periodically, ie. every 30 minutes. > > > > I now have a receiver running 24/7 monitoring Andy,s beacon on 503.7KHz. > > > > You can view the chart on my web site at :- > > > > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html > > > > For the moment ignore the text on the page as it is originally designed to > use with the 500KHz grabber when I renew my web site design. If it is a > useful upload I will make it a permanent feature but may have to extend the > frequency coverage of grabber 1 so not to overload the PC with operations > which will cause the PC to struggle. > > > > Let me have your comments please. > > > > 73 > > > > Gary - G4WGT. > > > > _____ > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT > Sent: 15 March 2009 16:10 > To: LF -RSGB LF Group > Subject: LF: Syncback software > > > > Hi LF, > > > > If anyone is using Syncback software & can help, please. > > > > I am tying to upload a file to my website who's filename does not change, > only the file size changes. I tried to do it with Argo-upload but failed so > I downloaded Syncback & still failing. > > > > Syncback gives me the following message :- > > > > ********************************** > > Can connect, but unable to change to destination directory: > > /chart01.bmp:not a directory > > ********************************** > > The Syncback help does not give me the answer. > > > > Any help will be appreciated > > > > Or > > > > Will Argo-Upload do it? > > > > Or > > > > Is there something else to do it? > > > > Thanks in anticipation, > > > > 73, > > > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. > > > > _____ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.13/2001 - Release Date: 03/14/09 > 06:54:00 > > _____ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.15/2003 - Release Date: 03/15/09 > 14:07:00 > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc01.mx.aol.com (rly-dc01.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.30]) by air-dc05.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDC052-b0249c3627b3cd; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 05:32:01 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc01.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC016-b0249c3627b3cd; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 05:31:41 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lkb4P-0000sl-Oo for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 09:31:17 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lkb4P-0000sc-E2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 09:31:17 +0000 Received: from mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.47]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lkb4O-0008Ux-MW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 09:31:17 +0000 Received: from aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20090320093106.QDIA2989.mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com>; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 09:31:06 +0000 Received: from [192.168.2.33] (really [82.22.242.113]) by aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vG.2.02.00.01 201-2161-120-102-20060912) with ESMTP id <20090320093106.MSOL21638.aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@[192.168.2.33]>; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 09:31:06 +0000 From: "Mike Dennison" To: Harry Woodhouse , rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 09:31:02 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <49C36256.29572.48E172A@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> In-reply-to: <5931f8db0903200019t15b9a653ua1f46367492d0ec6@mail.gmail.com> References: <5931f8db0903200019t15b9a653ua1f46367492d0ec6@mail.gmail.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-description: Mail message body X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=9YlaCzn6_68A:10 a=sbSsfc6SFoy9G8vKjKAA:9 a=uyy8Ip4idx_kntXtqWdjiMnLiawA:4 a=gi0PWCVxevcA:10 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 137 KHz reports please Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 I shall be monitoring for you. Mike, G3XDV ========== > If I manage to get my temporary mast up in the wind, I hope to > transmit CQ tomorrow morning Saturday 21st March with QRSS3 on 137.68 > KHz. Running 825 watts input to Decca Tx which was scrapped from the > Isles of Scilly, to a 230 feet long Marconi T, 30 feet up. Earth is a > disused iron water main about 5 miles long. Rx is lazy loop. QTH is at > Porthpean, IO 70 OH, on the cliffs looking out to sea to the east. > Reports most welcome, but I am 79 and struggling! Please be patient! > Harry G3MFW > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg05.mx.aol.com (rly-dg05.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.89]) by air-dg05.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDG051-5c649d1cdc4149; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 04:01:22 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg05.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG053-5c649d1cdc4149; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 04:01:11 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LoYtr-0000uv-Lj for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 09:00:47 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LoYtr-0000um-7M for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 09:00:47 +0100 Received: from psmtp04.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.13]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LoYtp-0000k0-DU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 09:00:47 +0100 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp04.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KHD000OD28TTO@psmtp04.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 10:00:29 +0200 (MEST) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 10:00:31 +0200 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 137khz-2 31-03.jpg Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_si2B7oRYdaoDixtV96J0kA)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_si2B7oRYdaoDixtV96J0kA) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_dgzpFxACnJ3CqXg32qB1HA)" --Boundary_(ID_dgzpFxACnJ3CqXg32qB1HA) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT capture 137khz nr 2 henny cpm best 73s to all. 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capture 137khz nr 2
henny cpm
best 73s to all.
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Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0052_01C9A679.DF148F50" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNSAFE,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0052_01C9A679.DF148F50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Andy, OK, I will insert an attenuator at the antenna socket (that's an easy move) & watch how it performs. It is switched at 10dB steps so I will start at 10db of course. Cheers, Gary. _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Andy Talbot Sent: 16 March 2009 20:45 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software Doesn't matter which - just total system gain. That S/W works best if the noise threshold rides at about 10dB above the baseline, then it allows for up to 70 - 80dB of signal peaks. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/3/16 Gary - G4WGT Alan, When you wrote :- my only comment is that you may have too much gain in the system. Are you meaning sound card or receiver gain? Gary. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Alan Melia Sent: 16 March 2009 19:38 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software Hi Gary my only comment is that you may have too much gain in the system. It is sometimes better to have the noise further down nearer the axis. I am afraid there is a major problem with this kind of beacon, when the fading period is shorter than the sampling interval, so you dont really know what the path is doing. The only reliable points are the peaks, the troughs dont really mean anything without some very sophisticated analysis and probably two spaced receivers. However it does give a snapshot of the band without taking up too much bandwidth (this was what was required for 5MHz too). Despite all the data collected very little analysis has actually be done on the 5MHz data collected by this program. The one succesfull bit of work was that published in Radcom by Marcis Walden G0IJZ. I used it for some time whilst Andy was testing the Poldhu beacon on 160m and also during the 1st two months that ran. I was certainly surprised by the daytime path on 160m from here. I have seen the data collected in Canada via Joe Craig VO1NA and it is difficult to see how to use it. Still if you dont collect the data you will never know!! Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 6:35 PM Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software > Hi Graham, LF, > > > > The original HTML Code for the 2 minute refresh is still inserted into the > page format, so upload is 30 minute intervals with Syncback & 2 minute > refresh. I have left the refresh in case I revert back to the original > grabber page. I will look at changing it if I continue to use the beacon > chart upload. > > > > I would like to have feedback from the LF group regarding the page, if you > check it out periodically, is it useful to you, what are you looking for. > > > > You can view the chart on my web site at :- > > > > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html > > > > 73 > > > > Gary - G4WGT. > > > > > > _____ > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham > Sent: 16 March 2009 17:20 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > Hi Gary, > > > > The page seemed to refresh quite often ... are there two settings ? > > > > G .. > > > > From: Gary - G4WGT > > Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:40 AM > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > Hi Graham, LF, > > > > You wrote :- > > >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute > intervals. <<< that could be backed off to 15 mins as the beacon only > sends every 15 ?? > > > > I mentioned in my previous mail to ignore the text on the page as it was > originally for grabber 1 for when I upgrade the web site (to a new design & > better navigation etc), also mentioned is that upload is every 30 minutes. > > > > If the uploaded chart proves useful or interesting to operators & viewers > then I will change the text & make it a permanent feature for the > foreseeable future. > > > > BTW :- > > > > For those of you who are not familiar with the chart - > > > > The RED trace is Andy's (G4JNT) beacon signal & the BLACK trace is the noise > level at my QTH. > > > > The Blue & GREEN are not in use & should be ignored on this chart as they > are for the other beacons used when monitoring on the 5MHz allocation. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Gary - G4WGT > > > > > > _____ > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham > Sent: 15 March 2009 22:17 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > Gary.. > > > > That looks good ... 0500 looks best time for a qso .. see you then Smile > emoticon > > > > >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute > intervals. <<< that could be backed off to 15 mins as the beacon only > sends every 15 ?? > > > > the 15 db over the noise in day time is the same at this qth .. looks like > the big dips round 1900 where just when we where testing .. typical hihi > > > > tnx- G .. > > > > From: Gary - G4WGT > > Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 7:55 PM > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > Subject: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > LF, > > > > I have now got the software, Syncback running correctly (I think). > > > > The purpose of this is to upload the chart from Andy's beacon as received > here to my web site periodically, ie. every 30 minutes. > > > > I now have a receiver running 24/7 monitoring Andy,s beacon on 503.7KHz. > > > > You can view the chart on my web site at :- > > > > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html > > > > For the moment ignore the text on the page as it is originally designed to > use with the 500KHz grabber when I renew my web site design. If it is a > useful upload I will make it a permanent feature but may have to extend the > frequency coverage of grabber 1 so not to overload the PC with operations > which will cause the PC to struggle. > > > > Let me have your comments please. > > > > 73 > > > > Gary - G4WGT. > > > > _____ > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT > Sent: 15 March 2009 16:10 > To: LF -RSGB LF Group > Subject: LF: Syncback software > > > > Hi LF, > > > > If anyone is using Syncback software & can help, please. > > > > I am tying to upload a file to my website who's filename does not change, > only the file size changes. I tried to do it with Argo-upload but failed so > I downloaded Syncback & still failing. > > > > Syncback gives me the following message :- > > > > ********************************** > > Can connect, but unable to change to destination directory: > > /chart01.bmp:not a directory > > ********************************** > > The Syncback help does not give me the answer. > > > > Any help will be appreciated > > > > Or > > > > Will Argo-Upload do it? > > > > Or > > > > Is there something else to do it? > > > > Thanks in anticipation, > > > > 73, > > > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. > > > > _____ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.13/2001 - Release Date: 03/14/09 > 06:54:00 > > _____ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.15/2003 - Release Date: 03/15/09 > 14:07:00 > > ------=_NextPart_000_0052_01C9A679.DF148F50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Andy,

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OK, I will insert an attenuator at the antenna socket (that’s an easy move) & watch how it performs. It is switched at 10dB steps so I will start at 10db of course.

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Cheers,<= o:p>

&nb= sp;

Gary.

&nb= sp;

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Andy Talbot
Sent: 16 March 2009 20:45
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software

 

Doesn't matter which - just total system gain.  That= S/W works best if the noise threshold rides at about 10dB above the baseline,  th= en it allows for up to 70 - 80dB of signal peaks.


Andy  G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com

2009/3/16 Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>

Alan,

When you wrote :-

my only comment is that you may have too much gain in the system.

Are you meaning sound card or receiver gain?

Gary.



-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_gr= oup@blacksheep.org

[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Alan Melia
Sent: 16 March 2009 19:38

To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software

Hi Gary=20= my only comment is that you may have too much gain in the system. It
is sometimes better to have the noise further down nearer the axis.

I am afraid there is a major problem with this kind of beacon, when the
fading period is shorter than the sampling interval, so you dont really know=
what the path is doing. The only reliable points are the peaks, the troughs<= br> dont really mean anything without some very sophisticated analysis and
probably two spaced receivers. However it does give a snapshot of the band without taking up too much bandwidth (this was what was required for 5MHz too). Despite all the data collected very little analysis has actually be done on the 5MHz data collected by this program. The one succesfull bit of work was that published in Radcom by Marcis Walden G0IJZ. I used it for some=
time whilst Andy was testing the Poldhu beacon on 160m and also during the 1st two months that ran. I was certainly surprised by the daytime path on 160m from here. I have seen the data collected in Canada via=20= Joe Craig VO1NA
and it is difficult to see how to use it.

Still if you dont collect the data you will never know!!

Alan G3NYK




----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary - G4WGT" <g4= wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacks= heep.org>
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 6:35 PM
Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software


> Hi Graham, LF,
>
>
>
> The original HTML Code for the 2 minute refresh is still inserted into=20= the
> page format, so upload is 30 minute intervals with Syncback & 2 min= ute
> refresh. I have left the refresh in case I revert back to the original<= br> > grabber page. I will look at changing it if I continue to use the beaco= n
> chart upload.
>
>
>
> I would like to have feedback from the LF group regarding the page, if=20= you
> check it out periodically, is it useful to you, what are you looking fo= r.
>
>
>
> You can view the chart on my web site at :-
>
>
>
> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html
>
>
>
> 73
>
>
>
> Gary - G4WGT.
>
>
>
>
>
>   _____
>
> From: owner-rsgb_= lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsg= b_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham
> Sent: 16 March 2009 17:20
> To: rsgb_lf_group@black= sheep.org
> Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software
>
>
>
> Hi Gary,
>
>
>
> The page seemed to  refresh quite often ... are there two settings= ?
>
>
>
> G ..
>
>
>
> From: Gary - G4WGT <mailto:g4= wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
>
> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:40 AM
>
> To: rsgb_lf_group@black= sheep.org
>
> Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software
>
>
>
> Hi Graham, LF,
>
>
>
> You wrote :-
>
> >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute
> intervals. <<< that could be backed off to  15 mins as th= e beacon only
> sends every 15 ??
>
>
>
> I mentioned in my previous mail to ignore the text on the page as it wa= s
> originally for grabber 1 for when I upgrade the web site (to a new desi= gn
&
> better navigation etc), also mentioned is that upload is every 30 minut= es.
>
>
>
> If the uploaded chart proves useful or interesting to operators & viewers
> then I will change the text & make it a permanent feature for the > foreseeable future.
>
>
>
> BTW :-
>
>
>
> For those of you  who are not familiar with the chart -
>
>
>
> The RED trace is Andy's (G4JNT) beacon signal & the BLACK trace is=20= the
noise
> level at my QTH.
>
>
>
> The Blue & GREEN are not in use & should be ignored on this cha= rt as they
> are for the other beacons used when monitoring on the 5MHz allocation.<= br> >
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> Gary - G4WGT
>
>
>
>
>
>   _____
>
> From: owner-rsgb_= lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsg= b_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham
> Sent: 15 March 2009 22:17
> To: rsgb_lf_group@black= sheep.org
> Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software
>
>
>
> Gary..
>
>
>
> That looks good  ... 0500 looks best time for a qso .. see you the= n Smile
> emoticon
>
>
>
> >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute
> intervals. <<< that could be backed off to  15 mins as th= e beacon only
> sends every 15 ??
>
>
>
> the  15 db over the noise in day time is the  same at this qt= h ... looks
like
> the big dips round 1900  where just when we where testing ..  typical hihi
>
>
>
> tnx- G ..
>
>
>
> From: Gary - G4WGT <mailto:g4= wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
>
> Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 7:55 PM
>
> To: rsgb_lf_group@black= sheep.org
>
> Subject: LF: RE: Syncback software
>
>
>
> LF,
>
>
>
> I have now got the software, Syncback running correctly (I think).
>
>
>
> The purpose of this is to upload the chart from Andy's beacon as receiv= ed
> here to my web site periodically, ie. every 30 minutes.
>
>
>
> I now have a receiver running 24/7 monitoring Andy,s beacon on 503.7KHz= .
>
>
>
> You can view the chart on my web site at :-
>
>
>
> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html
>
>
>
> For the moment ignore the text on the page as it is originally designed= to
> use with the 500KHz grabber when I renew my web site design. If it is a=
> useful upload I will make it a permanent feature but may have to extend=
the
> frequency coverage of grabber 1 so not to overload the PC with operatio= ns
> which will cause the PC to struggle.
>
>
>
> Let me have your comments please.
>
>
>
> 73
>
>
>
> Gary - G4WGT.
>
>
>
>   _____
>
> From: owner-rsgb_= lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsg= b_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT
> Sent: 15 March 2009 16:10
> To: LF -RSGB LF Group
> Subject: LF: Syncback software
>
>
>
> Hi LF,
>
>
>
> If anyone is using Syncback software & can help, please.
>
>
>
> I am tying to upload a file to my website who's filename does not chang= e,
> only the file size changes. I tried to do it with Argo-upload but faile= d
so
> I downloaded Syncback & still failing.
>
>
>
> Syncback gives me the following message :-
>
>
>
> **********************************
>
> Can connect, but unable to change to destination directory:
>
> /chart01.bmp:not a directory
>
> **********************************
>
> The Syncback help does not give me the answer.
>
>
>
> Any help will be appreciated
>
>
>
> Or
>
>
>
> Will Argo-Upload do it?
>
>
>
> Or
>
>
>
> Is there something else to do it?
>
>
>
> Thanks in anticipation,
>
>
>
> 73,
>
>
>
> Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.
>
>
>
>   _____
>
>
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG - www.= avg.com
> Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.13/2001 - Release Date: 03/14= /09
> 06:54:00
>
>   _____
>
>
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG - www.= avg.com
> Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.15/2003 - Release Date: 03/15= /09
> 14:07:00
>
>


 

------=_NextPart_000_0052_01C9A679.DF148F50-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de12.mx.aol.com (rly-de12.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.148]) by air-de03.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDE033-51c49bbb0e331a; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 09:28:22 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de12.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE123-51c49bbb0e331a; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 09:28:05 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LiTto-0000gR-38 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 13:27:36 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LiTtn-0000gI-2R for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 13:27:35 +0000 Received: from [193.252.22.190] (helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LiTtj-0000sL-Vx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 13:27:35 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3628.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 713967000083 for ; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 14:27:24 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.110.71.35]) by mwinf3628.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 813447000081 for ; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 14:27:21 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20090314132721529.813447000081@mwinf3628.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <5467B2F044F54A7980C65F62409256D3@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 13:27:20 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8064.206 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8064.206 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: Multi-function beacon Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0049_01C9A4A8.9A593B90" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0049_01C9A4A8.9A593B90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dave, >>> Sample of 5290kc. over last night.<<< Is this from 5290 or 503.7 ....... ?? Graham ..=20 From: dave.riley3=20 Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 12:08 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Cc: 600MRG=20 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Multi-function beacon Andy, beacons, Looks like the beacon program is up and running correctly as 5 mhz shows rel= ative sigs and frequency counts. Last night conditions here were very poor for T/A on 600m, even with this br= oad high pressure area that helped keep the noise down. Even DI2AM was very=20= weak and SM6BHZ did not decode. So I will run it again on you tonight, but I did see remnanats of what looks= like a letter K during the beacon transmission times from you ( in ARGO QRS= S3 )... Sample of 5290kc. over last night. 2009 03 14 03 00 47.51 39.97 36.06 23.91 0.00 1495.70 1494.14 0.00 2009 03 14 03 15 34.12 37.03 31.32 23.36 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 14 03 30 33.87 30.14 35.05 29.91 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 14 03 45 30.91 26.89 26.38 23.12 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 14 04 00 32.25 44.39 25.68 24.24 0.00 0.00 1494.14 0.00 2009 03 14 04 15 40.13 39.54 35.79 24.24 0.00 1495.51 1494.14 0.00 2009 03 14 04 30 44.71 42.47 29.35 30.72 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 14 04 45 33.16 37.11 35.32 23.03 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 14 05 00 48.07 46.44 34.46 25.30 0.00 1495.90 1494.14 0.00 2009 03 14 05 15 43.12 47.39 30.40 23.83 0.00 1495.70 1494.14 0.00 2009 03 14 05 30 48.13 31.83 37.48 26.50 0.00 1495.70 0.00 0.00 2009 03 14 05 45 47.11 42.90 37.04 22.88 0.00 1495.90 1494.34 0.00 2009 03 14 06 00 28.69 30.99 30.46 23.66 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 14 06 15 41.04 31.09 29.58 23.29 0.00 1495.90 0.00 0.00 The 'red' station usually seems the strongest on the graph... TNX Dave @ /17 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Andy Talbot=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org ; uk_beacons@yahoogroups.com=20 Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 5:57 AM Subject: LF: Re: Multi-function beacon Just a reminder to all - this beacon is still going, and will probably con= tinue to do so until further notice. A few listeners have downloaded the s= oftware, and thanks to all (you know who your are :-) for the plots / listin= gs. I am not in a position to compile them, so don't expect revelations, b= ut Gerhard / DK6NI has been monitoring pretty well continuously, and has p= lotted some deep fades / enhancements measured over hours with depths in the= regions of 30dB. Are there any stations in the US in a position to monitor ? =20 Please note that if using the recommended 5meg beacon monitoring software=20= you'll either have to set the delta time to -240 (or -180 or -120) seconds o= r adjust the PC clock by two, three or four minutes to cope with the four mi= nute offset I'm running it on. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com =20 2009/3/6 Andy Talbot I've now started transmitting a timed beacon signal on 503.7kHz that is= identical in format to that of GB3SSS operated over the winter months of th= e last two years from Poldhu on 1.9 and 3.5MHz, and has a similar signal s= tructure to the 5MHz beacons, GB3RAL, WES and ORK. These all have an initia= l CW ident and stepped power levels for aural reception, and a precisely def= ined period of full-power plain carrier for S/N measurements. =20 See http://www.rsgb-spectrumforum.org.uk/5mhz%20beacons.htm for the c= omplete 5MHz signal structure. For this MF transmission, as on GB3SSS, the= pulsed sounder sequence of the 5MHz beacons is replaced with a PSK31 messag= e which lasts from 30s to approx 48 seconds after the start Auto Monitoring software writen by G3PLX is available for monitoring the= se beacons, it measures signal to noise during the carrier period and saves=20= to file as well as plotting the last 40 hours worth of measurements. The software can be downloaded from http://www.rsgb.org/spectrumforum/h= f/beaconauto.php . PSK31 data can be copied with Digipan, Fldigi, PSK31SBW= or a host of other packages. TIMING=20 The 503.7kHz transmission takes place every 15 minutes at 4 minutes past= the quarter hour. =20 ie each transmission starts at xx:04, xx:19, xx:34 and xx:49 This tim= e slot has been selected so that the transmission do not interfere with my c= ontinuous ongoing reception of the 5Mhz beacons - the active antenna used fo= r these is overloaded by the 500kHz signal and I have already lost data when= the WSPR beacon transmission coincided with one of the monitoring windows. NOTE If using the G3PLX software, this only monitors for the three 5MH= z beacons at 00, 01 and 02 minutes. SO IT WILL BE NECESSARY TO FRIG THE SOFTWARE to monitor this transmissi= on at the 04 minute point. The necessary alteration can be done by firstly= setting your PC clock accurately to the correct time, then setting the Trac= k Time box to -240 (minus 240 seconds). This will make the software look fo= r this transmission during the time window it thinks it would be receiving G= B3RAL, and log the MF transmission during the first minute, on the red trace= , as if it were GB3RAL=20 The beacon uses the identical hardware to the WSPR transmissions of the=20= last few weeks, with the the only change being a reprogramming of the contro= ller PIC. In fact the very same hardware was previously loaned to the Pold= hu club for their beacons, with the only difference being a change to the fi= nal Low Pass filter on the output of the broadband PA. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.13/2001 - Release Date: 03/13/09 0= 5:59:00 ------=_NextPart_000_0049_01C9A4A8.9A593B90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dave, >>> Sample of 5290kc. over last=20 night.<<<
 
Is this  from 5290  or  503.7 ...= .....=20 ??
 
Graham ..
 
 

Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 12:08 PM
Cc: 600MRG
Subject: LF: Re: Re: Multi-function beacon

Andy, beacons,
 
Looks like the beacon program is up and running=20 correctly as 5 mhz shows relative sigs and frequency=20 counts.
 
Last night conditions here were very poor for T/= A on=20 600m, even with this broad high pressure area that helped keep the noise dow= n.=20 Even DI2AM was very weak and SM6BHZ did not decode.
 
So I will run it again on you tonight, but I did= see=20 remnanats of what looks like a letter K during the beacon transmission times= =20 from you ( in ARGO QRSS3 )...
 
 
Sample of 5290kc. over last=20 night.
 
2009 03 14 03 00 47.51 39.97 36.06 23.91 0.00 14= 95.70=20 1494.14 0.00
2009 03 14 03 15 34.12 37.03 31.32 23.36 0.00 0.00 0.00=20 0.00
2009 03 14 03 30 33.87 30.14 35.05 29.91 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
2009= 03=20 14 03 45 30.91 26.89 26.38 23.12 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
2009 03 14 04 00 32.= 25=20 44.39 25.68 24.24 0.00 0.00 1494.14 0.00
2009 03 14 04 15 40.13 39.54 35.= 79=20 24.24 0.00 1495.51 1494.14 0.00
2009 03 14 04 30 44.71 42.47 29.35 30.72=20= 0.00=20 0.00 0.00 0.00
2009 03 14 04 45 33.16 37.11 35.32 23.03 0.00 0.00 0.00=20 0.00
2009 03 14 05 00 48.07 46.44 34.46 25.30 0.00 1495.90 1494.14=20 0.00
2009 03 14 05 15 43.12 47.39 30.40 23.83 0.00 1495.70 1494.14=20 0.00
2009 03 14 05 30 48.13 31.83 37.48 26.50 0.00 1495.70 0.00 0.00
2= 009=20 03 14 05 45 47.11 42.90 37.04 22.88 0.00 1495.90 1494.34 0.00
2009 03 14=20= 06=20 00 28.69 30.99 30.46 23.66 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
2009 03 14 06 15 41.04 31.= 09=20 29.58 23.29 0.00 1495.90 0.00 0.00
 
The 'red' station usually seems the strongest on= the=20 graph...
 
TNX
 
Dave @ /17
 
----- Original Message -----
Andy Talbot
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 5:57=20 AM
Subject: LF: Re: Multi-function=20 beacon

Just a reminder to all - this beacon is still going, and will probabl= y=20 continue to do so until further notice.   A few listeners have=20 downloaded the software, and thanks to all (you know who your are :-) for=20= the=20 plots / listings.   I am not in a position to compile them, so d= on't=20 expect revelations, but Gerhard  /  DK6NI has been monitoring pr= etty=20 well continuously, and has plotted some deep fades / enhancement= s=20 measured over hours with depths in the regions of 30dB.
 
Are there any stations in the US in a position to monitor=20 ?  
 
Please note that if using the recommended 5meg beacon monitoring soft= ware=20 you'll either have to set the delta time to -240 (or -180 or -120) seconds= or=20 adjust the PC clock by two, three or four minutes to cope with the four mi= nute=20 offset I'm running it on.
 
Andy  G4JNT
2009/3/6 Andy Talbot <andy.g4jnt@goog= lemail.com>
I've now started transmitting a timed  beacon signal on=20 503.7kHz that is identical in format to that of GB3SSS operated ove= r=20 the winter months of the last two years  from Poldhu on 1.9 an= d=20 3.5MHz,  and has a similar signal structure to the 5MHz beacon= s,=20 GB3RAL, WES and ORK.  These all have an initial CW ident=20 and stepped power levels for aural reception, and a precisely=20 defined period of full-power plain carrier for S/N=20 measurements.  
See   http://www.rsgb-spectrumforum.o= rg.uk/5mhz%20beacons.htm =20 for the complete 5MHz  signal structure.  For this MF=20 transmission, as on GB3SSS, the pulsed sounder sequence of the 5MHz beac= ons=20 is replaced with a PSK31 message which lasts from 30s to approx 48=20 seconds after the start
 
Auto Monitoring software writen by G3PLX is available for monitorin= g=20 these beacons, it measures signal to noise during the carrier period and= =20 saves to file as well as plotting the last 40 hours worth of=20 measurements.
The software can be downloaded from  http://ww= w.rsgb.org/spectrumforum/hf/beaconauto.php .  =20 PSK31 data can be copied with Digipan, Fldigi, PSK31SBW or a host of oth= er=20 packages.
 
TIMING
The 503.7kHz transmission takes place every 15 minutes at 4 minutes= =20 past the quarter hour. 
ie each transmission starts at xx:04, xx:19, xx:34 and= =20 xx:49    This time slot has been selected s= o=20 that the transmission do not interfere with my continuous ongoing recept= ion=20 of the 5Mhz beacons - the active antenna used for these is overloaded by= the=20 500kHz signal and I have already lost data when the WSPR beacon transmis= sion=20 coincided with one of the monitoring windows.
 
NOTE   If using the G3PLX software, this=20 only monitors for the three 5MHz beacons at  00, 01 and 02=20 minutes.
SO IT WILL BE NECESSARY TO FRIG THE SOFTWARE=20  to monitor this transmission at the 04 minute=20 point.   The necessary alteration can be done by firstly=20 setting your PC clock accurately to the correct time, then setting=20= the=20 Track Time box to -240 (minus 240 seconds).  This will make the=20 software look for this transmission during the time window it think= s it=20 would be receiving GB3RAL, and log the MF transmission during the f= irst=20 minute, on the red trace, as if it were GB3RAL 
 
The beacon uses the identical hardware to the WSPR transmissio= ns=20 of the last few weeks, with the the only change being=20 a reprogramming of the controller PIC.   In fact the very= =20 same hardware was previously loaned to the Poldhu club for their beacons= ,=20 with the only difference being a change to the final Low Pass filter on=20= the=20 output of the broadband PA.
 


No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG -=20 www.avg.com
Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.13/2001 - Release=20 Date: 03/13/09 05:59:00
------=_NextPart_000_0049_01C9A4A8.9A593B90-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db03.mx.aol.com (rly-db03.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.78]) by air-db01.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDB014-ab949b40dff305; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 14:27:30 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db03.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB037-ab949b40dff305; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 14:27:13 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LgNiJ-0000Vb-Rj for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 18:27:03 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LgNiJ-0000VR-1B for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 18:27:03 +0000 Received: from mail-fx0-f174.google.com ([209.85.220.174]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LgNiH-0007Of-Cy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 18:27:03 +0000 Received: by fxm22 with SMTP id 22so1160074fxm.4 for ; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 11:26:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=6YzguZ00jdy15G08/icmebq1N1EYBmPkRS4TV9/ffko=; b=iGl1FFsIw9dJoE3pSNYAluq/NuRb09BIjhlLMxbB7ON1nOk7/SryPLMPrqOlAlU4uX my4huna7gVabd2l2xHNs23dGUe00y0NC8rT75Me0BJDbAk080bruBFcgWdRa/ycn7SmD gt7eULgTpQRvMeleWL8B4RbXq++XDCzFhv2UY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Cs7Pp4myww68+u4LSbwN+NPKb980EbKblXxKw4xgZDpHxiekDsgO/irI6d9cqa9Xag JI2pzNP2gK8qZ1AcTqR2zpmV+RPNtxcr3hQyxNpJSN9yq4g+SI1uRsJdmW2fyP8MAHF/ XjDioqshYVXlSI+LITFgcUaTIdvteaU1qL0Yg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.110.11 with SMTP id l11mr3830557fap.50.1236536814286; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 11:26:54 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <28FA0F184B25444F8BA2F1EC5FC42C04@AGB> Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 18:26:54 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: AW: 503.7 Multi-function beacon ... Its working ! Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c598329137ed04649fa9ac X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m246.2 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --001636c598329137ed04649fa9ac Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It is no trouble to continue the transmission. I have set up the equipment in the garage where it does not get in the way of other shack activites, and won't do too much damage if the euipment blows up! So I can leave it running for a few weeks unless the antenna is needed for other purposes.. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/3/8 Beckmann, Gerhard > Hi Graham, > > > > Thank you for your statement! > > Well actually, especially Scattergram or equal measurement methods would b= e > of interest regarding the aspect of signal path monitoring. (direct wave / > sky wave via cross correlation of pulse delay values). > > However, the aspect of interferences by using 500us pulses has to be taken > into consideration but may be there are coming up suitable solution by the > LF-group. > > Another method of monitoring the signal path on 500 kHz could possibly > performed by using the =93PSK Sounder=94 software from ZL2AFP. And what I=20= saw on > a first glance it should be usable for transmission and reception in order > to monitor the signal path situation. > > > > By the way: > > Do you know if Andy is continuing the Multi-function beaconing on 503.7 > kHz? > > In this case I would try long term signal monitoring by GB3RAL.exe and PSK > message decoding within the next evening sessions. > > > > vy 73 de Gerhard / DK6NI > > > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > *Von:* owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto: > owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] *Im Auftrag von *Graham > *Gesendet:* Sonntag, 8. M=E4rz 2009 15:36 > *An:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > *Betreff:* Re: LF: AW: 503.7 Multi-function beacon ... Its working ! > > > > Hi, Grerhard, > > > > Andy's post about the new beacon came out of the blue, (as is the signal > hihi), Working on this, I've simply added a page to the uk500khz news > group and posted links about to generate some interest and make sure the > beacon details are known to hams and swl's out side this reflector .. > > > > The only thing that occurs to me is that there is a possibility for > reception reports to be directed to the 5 meg group , I note that the > graph generator by G4IRX requests your call and locator before processin= g > the file and presenting you with a plot. so I will see if anything can be > done to prevent this , the data format is of course distorted by having > only one active beacon.. so it will show up .. but may as yet be unexpecte= d > ...! > > > > I note from previous email that the pulse aspect of the beacon is require= d > for precise measurements, I think that may be possible to set up a > 'experiment' but the aspect of interference to other users may be > significant, Andy has referred to the concept of 'phase reversal' in a > continues carrier system (or medium pulse ?) that would perhaps be a > acceptable mode of modulation, weather it could be transmitted by a 'norma= l' > transmitter im note sure , but its worth noting that activities on 500, to > date are not 'funded' as such and time and capital out lay are part of th= e > 'hobby' and such hardware requirements and software re-writes are beyond > many of the active stations. but perhaps as interest spreads .. things may > change ..? > > > > Tnx- > > > > Graham > > > > G0NBD > > IO83LK > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *From:* Beckmann, Gerhard > > *Sent:* Sunday, March 08, 2009 11:06 AM > > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > *Cc:* 'Robert Hemesley' > > *Subject:* LF: AW: 503.7 Multi-function beacon ... Its working ! > > > > Hello Graham, Hello Andy, > > > > reading about your activities concerning Multi-function beacon I tried > yesterday evening to catch your signals, but unfortunately with no results > copying your sig. May be condx were not good enough. Moreover I had some > bad manmade QRM from TV and PC. > > > > As Rob Hemesley told you I am active in 5-MHz-beaco- monitoring > specially concerning scattergram monitoring in order to analyse signal pa= th > situation (direct wave / sky wave behaviour). > > But I am running both analysis software, GB3RAL.exe and > Scattergram.exe and it would not be any problem to modify the internal > PC-clock specially regarding GB3RAL.exe in order to analyse the long term > signal level of your Multi-function beacon. So I will try to continue > monitoring your Multi-function beacon hopefully that condx will be better=20= in > the next evening sessions (hi). > > If there will be Scattergram acties in future I certainly need some > more dB signal level, but it would be very interesting to investigate the > signal path situation. > > Of course, this is more interesting for those participants who are > located in a distance range between 150 and 300 km in order to monitor the > slide crossover from direct wave to sky wave signal path. > > However, thank you very much for implementation of your very > interesting Multi-function beacon project and I will keep on running my > monitoring activities and will inform you in any case about further result= s. > > > > vy 73 and a lot of success by running Multi-function beacons, I will be=20= =93on > the qui vive=94 !!! > > > > de Gerhard / DK6NI (JN59LN) > > > > By the way: > > Dial frequency 505.2 kHz, is that o.k.? (because GB3RAL.exe is decoding > with 1500 Hz too). > > For BPSK31-decoding I am using DigiPan Vers.2.0 > > > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > *Von:* owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto: > owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] *Im Auftrag von *Graham > *Gesendet:* Samstag, 7. M=E4rz 2009 23:46 > *An:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > *Betreff:* LF: 503.7 Multi-function beacon ... Its working ! > > > > So far so good .. quite a step up in signal round 2100 hrs > > no frequency decode before then , 15 db over noise at 2130 > > > > but a trend showing > > about 1 hour slow qsb > > > > any other reports ? > > > > G .. > > > ------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.9/1988 - Release Date: 03/06/09 > 19:17:00 > --001636c598329137ed04649fa9ac Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
It is no trouble to continue the transmission.=A0 I have set up the equ= ipment in the garage where it does not get in the way of other shack activit= es, and won't do too much damage if the euipment blows up!=A0 So I can l= eave it running for a few weeks unless the antenna is needed for other purpo= ses..

Andy =A0G4JNT
www= .g4jnt.com


2009/3/8 Beckmann, Gerhard <= beckmann.erlangen@freenet.de= >

Hi G= raham,

=A0<= /span>

Thank you for your statement!

Well actually, especially Scattergram or equal measurement method= s would be of interest regarding the aspect of signal path monitoring. (dire= ct wave / sky wave via cross correlation of pulse delay values).

However, the aspect of interferences by using 500us pulses has to= be taken into consideration but may be there are coming up suitable solutio= n by the LF-group.

Another method of monitoring the signal path on 500 kHz could pos= sibly performed by using the =93PSK Sounder=94 software from ZL2AFP. And wha= t I saw on a first glance it should be usable for transmission and reception= in order to monitor the signal path situation.

=A0

By the way:

Do you know if Andy is continuing the Multi-function beaconing on= 503.7 kHz?

In this case I would try long term signal monitoring by GB3RAL..e= xe and PSK message decoding within the next evening sessions.<= /p>

=A0

vy 73 de Gerhard / DK6NI

=A0

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

=A0

=A0

=A0

Von: owner-rsgb_= lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] <= span style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Im Auftrag von Graham
Gesendet: Sonntag, 8. M=E4rz= 2009 15:36=20


An: rsgb_lf_grou= p@blacksheep.org
Betreff:<= /span> Re: LF: AW: 503.7 Multi-function beacon ... Its working !<= /font>=20

=A0

Hi, Grerhard,

=A0

Andy's post about the=A0 new beacon came out of the=A0 blue,=20= (as is the signal hihi), Working on this, =A0I've simply added a page to= the=A0 uk500khz news group and posted links about to=A0 generate some inter= est and make sure=A0the beacon=A0details are known to hams and swl's out= side this reflector ..

=A0

The only thing that occurs to=A0 me is that there is a possibilit= y for reception reports to be=A0 directed to the 5 meg group , I note that t= he=A0 graph generator by G4IRX=A0 requests your call and locator=A0 before p= rocessing the file and presenting you with a plot. so I will see if anything= can be done to=A0 prevent this , the data format is of course distorted by=20= having only one active beacon.. so it will show up .. but may as yet be unex= pected ...!

=A0

I note from previous email that the pulse aspect of the=A0 beacon= is required for precise measurements, I think that may be possible to set u= p a 'experiment' =A0but the aspect of interference to=A0 other users= may be significant, Andy has referred to the concept of 'phase reversal= ' in a continues carrier system (or medium pulse ?) that would perhaps b= e a acceptable mode of modulation, weather it could be transmitted by a '= ;normal' transmitter im note sure , but its worth noting that activities= on 500, to date =A0are not 'funded' as such and time and capital ou= t lay are part of the 'hobby' and such hardware requirements =A0and=20= software re-writes are beyond many of the active stations. but perhaps as in= terest spreads .. things may change ..?

=A0

Tnx-

=A0

Graham

=A0

G0NBD

IO83LK

=A0

=A0

=A0

=A0

=A0

=A0

=A0

=A0

Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 11:06 AM

Subject:= LF: AW: 503.7 Multi-function beacon ... Its wor= king !

=A0

Hello Graham, Hello Andy,

=A0

reading about your activities concerning Multi-fun= ction beacon I tried yesterday evening to catch your signals, but unfortunat= ely with no results copying your sig. May be condx were not good enough.=A0=20= Moreover I had some bad manmade QRM from TV and PC.

=A0

=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 As Rob Hemesley told you I am acti= ve in 5-MHz-beaco- monitoring specially concerning=A0 scattergram monitoring= in order to analyse signal path situation (direct wave / sky wave behaviour= ).

=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 But I am running both analysis sof= tware, GB3RAL.exe and Scattergram.exe and it would not be any problem to mod= ify the internal PC-clock specially regarding GB3RAL.exe in order to analyse= the long term signal level of your Multi-function beacon. So I will try to=20= continue monitoring your Multi-function beacon hopefully that condx will be=20= better in the next evening sessions (hi).

=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 If there will be Scattergram actie= s in future I certainly need some more dB signal level, but it would be very= interesting to investigate the signal path situation.

=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Of course, this is more interestin= g for those participants who are located in a distance range between 150 and= 300 km in order to monitor the slide crossover from direct wave to sky wave= signal path.

=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0=A0However, thank you very much fo= r implementation of your very interesting Multi-function beacon project and=20= I will keep on running my monitoring activities and will inform you in any c= ase about further results.

=A0

vy 73 and a lot of success by running Multi-functi= on beacons, I will be =93on the qui vive=94 !!!

=A0

de Gerhard=A0 /=A0 DK6NI=A0 (JN59LN)=

=A0

By the way:

Dial frequency 505.2 kHz, is that o.k.? (because G= B3RAL.exe is decoding with 1500 Hz too).

For BPSK31-decoding I am using DigiPan Vers.2.0

=A0

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

=A0

=A0

=A0

Von: owner-rsgb_= lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] <= span style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Im Auftrag von Graham
Gesendet: Samstag, 7. M=E4rz= 2009 23:46
An: rsgb_lf_group@bla= cksheep.org
Betreff: LF: 503.7 Multi-fun= ction beacon ... Its working !

=A0

So far so good .. quite a step up in signal round 2100 hrs=A0

no frequency decode before then , 15 db over noise at 2130=

=A0

but a trend showing

about=A0 1 hour slow qsb

=A0

any other reports ?

=A0

G ..

=A0


No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 8.0.= .237 / Virus Database: 270.11.9/1988 - Release Date: 03/06/09 19:17:00


--001636c598329137ed04649fa9ac-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da04.mx.aol.com (rly-da04.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.78]) by air-da02.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA024-a6449c4de333d3; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 08:32:01 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da04.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA044-a6449c4de333d3; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 08:31:49 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ll0MW-0003im-CD for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 12:31:40 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ll0MW-0003id-1A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 12:31:40 +0000 Received: from imo-d21.mx.aol.com ([205.188.144.207]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ll0MT-0002WY-33 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 12:31:39 +0000 Received: from F4DTL@aol.com by imo-d21.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id l.d1d.412010ed (39952) for ; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 08:31:25 -0400 (EDT) From: F4DTL@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 08:31:25 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5029 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_FONT_BIG=0.256,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: 137 at 1035-1040z Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1237638685" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_FONT_BIG,HTML_MESSAGE,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 -------------------------------1237638685 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 Many thanx dear John,i hope to see you during a next Ham meeting in France. =20 73 de F4DTL Nicolas =20 Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 21/03/2009 11:46:25 Paris, Madrid, =20 john.rabson@wanadoo.fr a =E9crit : DTL very strong BWO/XDV strong cq de g3mfw weak but diecipherable 73 John Rabson=20 F5VLF 58800 Cervon France JN17vg -------------------------------1237638685 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Many thanx dear John,i hope to see you during a next Ham meeting i= n=20 France.
 
73 de F4DTL Nicolas
 
Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 21/03/2009 11:46:25 Paris, Madrid,=20 john.rabson@wanadoo.fr a =E9crit :
DTL= very=20 strong
BWO/XDV strong
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73
John Rabson
F5VLF
58800=20 Cervon
France
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 -------------------------------1237638685-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da04.mx.aol.com (rly-da04.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.78]) by air-da03.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDA031-a6749ab1f7c5a; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 18:51:47 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da04.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA047-a6749ab1f7c5a; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 18:51:26 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LdvRA-00033h-Eo for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 23:51:12 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LdvR9-00033Y-Tv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 23:51:11 +0000 Received: from fish2.hurontel.on.ca ([216.46.129.163]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LdvR8-0006Qu-IC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 23:51:11 +0000 Received: from weazle (pppoe.dyn-216.46.157.28.hurontel.on.ca [216.46.157.28]) by fish2.hurontel.on.ca (Spam Firewall) with SMTP id 91CB68F01C0 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 18:51:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from weazle (pppoe.dyn-216.46.157.28.hurontel.on.ca [216.46.157.28]) by fish2.hurontel.on.ca with SMTP id bWsLl2NWpSXJKejR for ; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 18:51:01 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <000001c99ac8$92fa8c80$0b01a8c0@weazle> From: "J. B. Weazle McCreath" To: References: <49AAF908.7040906@charter.net> <20090301223044.8i4kbe2osr5wco8o@webmail4.kuleuven.be> <49AB04A1.2030308@charter.net> <017801c99ab9$f8e9a9e0$6401a8c0@asus> <49AB098D.1020505@charter.net> Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 23:50:57 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WE2XGR/3 WSPR tonight Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=LINES_OF_YELLING autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi John, LFers, Here's a bit of my capture of your WSPR signals in EN93DR. I've been watching for WE2XVY as well, but nothing so far. I guess I'll be more likely than Rik to get a copy! 090301 2324 3 -14 -0.1 0.508069 W1TAG FN42 53 090301 2328 6 -14 0.2 0.508069 W1TAG FN42 53 090301 2332 2 -16 0.2 0.508069 W1TAG FN42 53 090301 2336 1 -19 -0.1 0.508069 W1TAG FN42 53 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL Solar and wind powered Lowfer " EAR" 188.830 EN93dr http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db09.mx.aol.com (rly-db09.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.84]) by air-db09.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB094-aea49ce7e816d; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 15:46:14 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db09.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB098-aea49ce7e816d; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 15:46:12 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LneTS-0000ip-GK for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 19:45:46 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LneTS-0000ie-3R for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 19:45:46 +0000 Received: from smtp06.online.nl ([194.134.42.51]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LneTQ-00072c-RQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 19:45:46 +0000 Received: from smtp06.online.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp06.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBF9E963AA for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 20:45:08 +0100 (CET) Received: from pa3fnytrqxpddu (s5593e077.adsl.wanadoo.nl [85.147.224.119]) by smtp06.online.nl (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 20:45:08 +0100 (CET) From: To: Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 20:45:08 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <007201c9afda$c31fc3e0$6501a8c0@TORRE> X-Online-Scanned: by Cloudmark authority (on smtp06.online.nl) X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: RE: LF: Lazy Man's CW made it to Venus and back Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Paarlen voor de zwijnen....(Dutch) Victor -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens Henrique Pessoa Verzonden: zaterdag 28 maart 2009 20:24 Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Onderwerp: Re: LF: Lazy Man's CW made it to Venus and back Well, for the statistics, a portuguese version same sense is also available it reads " dar p=E9rolas a porcos ". 73 Henrique CT1HX ----- Original Message ----- From: "John RABSON" To: Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 7:50 AM Subject: Re: LF: Lazy Man's CW made it to Venus and back On 26/03/2009 at 23:34 Johan H. Bodin wrote: >I didn't know it was an English saying/proverb! The swedish translation >"Kasta p=E4rlor f=F6r svinen" is sometimes used in similar circumstances... Very close. 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boundary=001636c5b47014c0670465171aab X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d223.2 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --001636c5b47014c0670465171aab Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Nothing happens here - the systems just carries on as usual. Its noticable that during those periods, the signal drops to the daytime groundwave level. Blame the sun :-) Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/3/14 Graham > Ok Andy , > > I have multi traces due to local noise/carriers floating about and > coinciding with the measuring windows... > > Noticed a couple of things so far , Gary and my plots show a dip in signal > 18:00 to 20:00 .. what happens round then ? and round 07:00 a single > sharp dip.. ? > > Gerhards plot looks to show the 'pre dawn' lift that I have never see > before .. it was mentioned in a talk on MW dx at one of the HFC a while ago > > Tnx, G .. > > > > *From:* Andy Talbot > *Sent:* Saturday, March 14, 2009 1:36 PM > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > *Subject:* Re: LF: Re: Re: Multi-function beacon > > That listing was 5.29MHz to prove the S/W - it shows the power and tone > frequencies of all three - RAL/WES/ORK on the TA path. > > Don't forget to offset the time :-) > > Andy G4JNT > www.g4jnt.com > > > 2009/3/14 Graham > >> Dave, >>> *Sample of 5290kc. over last night.<<<* >> ** >> *Is this from 5290 or 503.7 ....... ??* >> ** >> *Graham .. * >> >> >> >> *From:* dave.riley3 >> *Sent:* Saturday, March 14, 2009 12:08 PM >> *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> *Cc:* 600MRG >> *Subject:* LF: Re: Re: Multi-function beacon >> >> *Andy, beacons,* >> ** >> *Looks like the beacon program is up and running correctly as 5 mhz shows >> relative sigs and frequency counts.* >> ** >> *Last night conditions here were very poor for T/A on 600m, even with >> this broad high pressure area that helped keep the noise down. Even DI2AM >> was very weak and SM6BHZ did not decode.* >> ** >> *So I will run it again on you tonight, but I did see remnanats of what >> looks like a letter K during the beacon transmission times from you ( in >> ARGO QRSS3 )...* >> ** >> ** >> *Sample of 5290kc. over last night.* >> ** >> *2009 03 14 03 00 47.51 39.97 36.06 23.91 0.00 1495.70 1494.14 0.00 >> 2009 03 14 03 15 34.12 37.03 31.32 23.36 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 >> 2009 03 14 03 30 33.87 30.14 35.05 29.91 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 >> 2009 03 14 03 45 30.91 26.89 26.38 23.12 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 >> 2009 03 14 04 00 32.25 44.39 25.68 24.24 0.00 0.00 1494.14 0.00 >> 2009 03 14 04 15 40.13 39.54 35.79 24.24 0.00 1495.51 1494.14 0.00 >> 2009 03 14 04 30 44.71 42.47 29.35 30.72 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 >> 2009 03 14 04 45 33.16 37.11 35.32 23.03 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 >> 2009 03 14 05 00 48.07 46.44 34.46 25.30 0.00 1495.90 1494.14 0.00 >> 2009 03 14 05 15 43.12 47.39 30.40 23.83 0.00 1495.70 1494.14 0.00 >> 2009 03 14 05 30 48.13 31.83 37.48 26.50 0.00 1495.70 0.00 0.00 >> 2009 03 14 05 45 47.11 42.90 37.04 22.88 0.00 1495.90 1494.34 0.00 >> 2009 03 14 06 00 28.69 30.99 30.46 23.66 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 >> 2009 03 14 06 15 41.04 31.09 29.58 23.29 0.00 1495.90 0.00 0.00* >> ** >> *The 'red' station usually seems the strongest on the graph...* >> ** >> *TNX* >> ** >> *Dave @ /17* >> ** >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> *From:* Andy Talbot >> *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org ; uk_beacons@yahoogroups.com >> *Sent:* Friday, March 13, 2009 5:57 AM >> *Subject:* LF: Re: Multi-function beacon >> >> Just a reminder to all - this beacon is still going, and will probably >> continue to do so until further notice. A few listeners have downloaded >> the software, and thanks to all (you know who your are :-) for the plots / >> listings. I am not in a position to compile them, so don't expect >> revelations, but Gerhard / DK6NI has been monitoring pretty >> well continuously, and has plotted some deep fades / enhancements measured >> over hours with depths in the regions of 30dB. >> >> Are there any stations in the US in a position to monitor ? >> >> Please note that if using the recommended 5meg beacon monitoring software >> you'll either have to set the delta time to -240 (or -180 or -120) seconds >> or adjust the PC clock by two, three or four minutes to cope with the four >> minute offset I'm running it on. >> >> Andy G4JNT >> www.g4jnt.com >> >> >> 2009/3/6 Andy Talbot >> >>> I've now started transmitting a timed beacon signal on 503.7kHz that >>> is identical in format to that of GB3SSS operated over the winter months of >>> the last two years from Poldhu on 1.9 and 3.5MHz, and has a similar signal >>> structure to the 5MHz beacons, GB3RAL, WES and ORK. These all have an >>> initial CW ident and stepped power levels for aural reception, and a >>> precisely defined period of full-power plain carrier for S/N measurements. >>> See http://www.rsgb-spectrumforum.org.uk/5mhz%20beacons.htm for the >>> complete 5MHz signal structure. For this MF transmission, as on GB3SSS, >>> the pulsed sounder sequence of the 5MHz beacons is replaced with a PSK31 >>> message which lasts from 30s to approx 48 seconds after the start >>> >>> Auto Monitoring software writen by G3PLX is available for monitoring >>> these beacons, it measures signal to noise during the carrier period and >>> saves to file as well as plotting the last 40 hours worth of measurements. >>> The software can be downloaded from >>> http://www.rsgb.org/spectrumforum/hf/beaconauto.php . PSK31 data can >>> be copied with Digipan, Fldigi, PSK31SBW or a host of other packages. >>> >>> *TIMING * >>> The 503.7kHz transmission takes place every 15 minutes at 4 minutes past >>> the quarter hour. >>> ie each transmission starts at *xx:04, xx:19, xx:34 and xx:49 * This >>> time slot has been selected so that the transmission do not interfere with >>> my continuous ongoing reception of the 5Mhz beacons - the active antenna >>> used for these is overloaded by the 500kHz signal and I have already lost >>> data when the WSPR beacon transmission coincided with one of the monitoring >>> windows. >>> >>> NOTE If using the G3PLX software, this only monitors for the three 5MHz >>> beacons at 00, 01 and 02 minutes. >>> *SO IT WILL BE NECESSARY TO FRIG THE SOFTWARE * to monitor >>> this transmission at the 04 minute point. The necessary alteration can be >>> done by firstly setting your PC clock accurately to the correct time, then >>> setting the Track Time box to -240 (minus 240 seconds). This will make the >>> software look for this transmission during the time window it thinks it >>> would be receiving GB3RAL, and log the MF transmission during the first >>> minute, on the red trace, as if it were GB3RAL >>> >>> The beacon uses the identical hardware to the WSPR transmissions of the >>> last few weeks, with the the only change being a reprogramming of the >>> controller PIC. In fact the very same hardware was previously loaned to >>> the Poldhu club for their beacons, with the only difference being a change >>> to the final Low Pass filter on the output of the broadband PA. >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.13/2001 - Release Date: 03/13/09 >> 05:59:00 >> >> > ------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.13/2001 - Release Date: 03/14/09 > 06:54:00 > > --001636c5b47014c0670465171aab Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Nothing happens here - the systems=A0just carries on as usual.=A0=A0 It= s noticable that=A0during those periods, the signal drops to the daytime gro= undwave level.
=A0
Blame the sun :-)

Andy =A0G4JNT
www= .g4jnt.com


2009/3/14 Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
Ok Andy ,
=A0
I have multi traces due to=A0 local noi= se/carriers floating about and=A0 coinciding with the measuring windows... <= /font>
=A0
Noticed a couple of things so=A0 far ,=20= Gary and my plots show a dip in signal 18:00=A0 to=A0 20:00=A0.. what happen= s round then ? =A0and round =A007:00 a single sharp dip.. ?
=A0
Gerhards plot looks to=A0 show the '= ;pre dawn' lift that I have never see before .. it was mentioned in a ta= lk on MW dx at one of the HFC a while ago
=A0
Tnx, G ..
=A0
=A0

Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 1:36 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: Multi-function beacon

That listing was 5.29MHz to prove the S/W - it shows the power and tone= frequencies of all three - RAL/WES/ORK on the TA path.
=A0
Don't forget to offset the time :-)

Andy =A0G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com


2009/3/14 Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.u= k>
Dave, >>> Sample of 5290kc. over last night.<<<
=A0
Is this=A0 from 5290=A0 or=A0 503.7 ....... ??=
=A0
Graham ..
=A0
=A0

Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 12:08 PM
Cc: 600MRG
Subject: LF: Re: Re: Multi-function beacon

Andy, beacons,
=A0
Looks like the beacon program is up and runnin= g correctly as 5 mhz shows relative sigs and frequency counts.
=A0
Last night conditions here were very poor for=20= T/A on 600m, even with this broad high pressure area that helped keep the no= ise down. Even DI2AM was very weak and SM6BHZ did not decode.
=A0
So I will run it again on you tonight, but I d= id see remnanats of what looks like a letter K during the beacon transmissio= n times from you ( in ARGO QRSS3 )...
=A0
=A0
Sample of 5290kc. over last night.
=A0
2009 03 14 03 00 47.51 39.97 36.06 23.91 0.00=20= 1495.70 1494.14 0.00
2009 03 14 03 15 34.12 37.03 31.32 23.36 0.00 0.00 0= .00 0.00
2009 03 14 03 30 33.87 30.14 35.05 29.91 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
2009 03 14 03 45 30.91 26.89 26.38 23.12 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
2009 03 14 0= 4 00 32.25 44.39 25.68 24.24 0.00 0.00 1494.14 0.00
2009 03 14 04 15 40..= 13 39.54 35.79 24.24 0.00 1495.51 1494.14 0.00
2009 03 14 04 30 44.71 42.= 47 29.35 30.72 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
2009 03 14 04 45 33.16 37.11 35.32 23.03 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
2009 03 14 0= 5 00 48.07 46.44 34.46 25.30 0.00 1495.90 1494.14 0.00
2009 03 14 05 15 4= 3.12 47.39 30.40 23.83 0.00 1495.70 1494.14 0.00
2009 03 14 05 30 48.13 3= 1.83 37.48 26.50 0.00 1495.70 0.00 0.00
2009 03 14 05 45 47.11 42.90 37.04 22.88 0.00 1495.90 1494.34 0.00
2009 0= 3 14 06 00 28.69 30.99 30.46 23.66 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
2009 03 14 06 15 4= 1.04 31.09 29.58 23.29 0.00 1495.90 0.00 0.00
=A0
The 'red' station usually seems the st= rongest on the graph...
=A0
TNX
=A0
Dave @ /17
=A0
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 5:57 AM<= /div>
Subject: LF: Re: Multi-function beaco= n

Just a reminder to all - this beacon is still going, and will probably=20= continue to do so until further notice.=A0=A0 A few listeners have downloade= d the software, and thanks to all (you know who your are :-) for the plots /= listings.=A0=A0 I am not in a position to compile them, so don't expect= revelations, but Gerhard=A0 /=A0 DK6NI has been monitoring pretty well=A0co= ntinuously, and has plotted some=A0deep fades / enhancements measured over h= ours with depths in the regions of 30dB.
=A0
Are there any stations in the US in a position to monitor ?=A0=A0
=A0
Please note that if using the recommended 5meg beacon monitoring softwa= re you'll either have to set the delta time to -240 (or -180 or -120) se= conds or adjust the PC clock by two, three or four minutes to cope with the=20= four minute offset I'm running it on.
=A0
Andy =A0G4JNT
2009/3/6 Andy Talbot <andy.g4jnt@googlema= il.com>
I've now=A0started transmitting a timed=A0 beacon signal on 503.7kH= z that is=A0identical in format to that of GB3SSS operated over the winter m= onths of the last two years=A0=A0from Poldhu on 1.9 and 3.5MHz, =A0and has= =A0a similar signal structure to the 5MHz beacons, GB3RAL, WES and ORK.=A0 T= hese all have=A0an initial CW ident and=A0stepped power levels for aural rec= eption,=A0and a precisely defined period of full-power plain carrier for S/N= measurements.=A0=A0
See=A0 =A0http://www.rsgb-spectrumforum.org.uk/5mhz%20beacons= .htm=A0 for the complete 5MHz =A0signal structure.=A0=A0For this MF tran= smission, as on GB3SSS, the pulsed sounder sequence of the 5MHz beacons is r= eplaced with a PSK31 message which lasts from=A030s to approx 48 seconds aft= er the start
=A0
Auto Monitoring software writen by G3PLX is available for monitoring th= ese beacons, it measures signal to noise during the carrier period and saves= to file as well as plotting the last 40 hours worth of measurements.
The software can be downloaded from=A0 http://www.rsgb.org/spectr= umforum/hf/beaconauto.php=A0.=A0=A0 PSK31 data can be copied with Digipa= n, Fldigi, PSK31SBW or a host of other packages.
=A0
TIMING
The 503.7kHz transmission takes place every 15 minutes at 4 minutes pas= t the quarter hour.=A0
ie=A0each transmission starts at xx:04, xx:19, xx:34 and xx:49= =A0=A0=A0=A0This time slot has been selected so that the transmissi= on do not interfere with my continuous ongoing reception of the 5Mhz beacons= - the active antenna used for these is overloaded by the 500kHz signal and=20= I have already lost data when the WSPR beacon transmission coincided with on= e of the monitoring windows.
=A0
NOTE=A0=A0 If using the=A0G3PLX software, this only=A0monitors for the=20= three 5MHz beacons at =A000, 01 and 02 minutes.
SO IT WILL BE NECESSARY=A0TO FRIG=A0THE SOFTWARE =A0to= monitor this=A0transmission at the 04 minute point.=A0=A0=A0The necessary a= lteration can be done by firstly setting=A0your PC clock accurately to the c= orrect time, then setting the Track Time box to -240 (minus 240 seconds)..= =A0 This will make the software look for this transmission during the time= =A0window it thinks it would be receiving GB3RAL, and log the=A0MF transmiss= ion during the first minute, on the red trace, as if it were GB3RAL=A0
=A0
The beacon uses the identical hardware to the=A0WSPR transmissions of= =A0the last few weeks, with the the only change being a=A0reprogramming of t= he controller PIC.=A0=A0 In fact the very same hardware was previously loane= d to the Poldhu club for their beacons, with the only difference being a cha= nge to the final Low Pass filter on the output of the broadband PA.
=A0


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--001636c5b47014c0670465171aab-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh09.mx.aol.com (rly-mh09.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.145]) by air-mh03.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMH034-bf549ad959b174; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 15:40:13 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh09.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH095-bf549ad959b174; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 15:39:57 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LebOV-0003QX-KC for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 20:39:15 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LebOV-0003QO-4I for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 20:39:15 +0000 Received: from fmmailgate03.web.de ([217.72.192.234]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LebOT-0007H9-2t for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 20:39:15 +0000 Received: from smtp06.web.de (fmsmtp06.dlan.cinetic.de [172.20.5.172]) by fmmailgate03.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F51FF8DCB0A; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 21:39:03 +0100 (CET) Received: from [217.227.82.108] (helo=[192.168.1.101]) by smtp06.web.de with esmtp (WEB.DE 4.110 #277) id 1LebOI-0001j0-00; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 21:39:03 +0100 Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 21:38:59 +0100 From: Michael Oexner X-Mailer: The Bat! (v2.12.00) Personal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <692239273.20090303213859@web.de> To: Chris McCarthy CC: Gus In-Reply-To: <3aaadcb80903031200n53a5f4deib9fae3ec20448cc1@mail.gmail.com> References: <3aaadcb80903031200n53a5f4deib9fae3ec20448cc1@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: michael.oexner@web.de X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/HuDZ2jH/HSnRr4W7mwOX/S9qAdZSFYZZXmnQy /5pfUQPaSvMVeH5uPGkrslo1NyQgwEiwHMZu+UmI6YrJMtmxGB 7qpCjBJdjfM0kr/sl1KA== X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: Re: LF: 500KHz SM6BHZ WSPR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=LINES_OF_YELLING, UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Chris & Gus & list, > SM6BHZ is TX'ing WSPR now on (I make it about 504.5) dial 503.00 USB. > 1956=A0 -4=A0 0.9=A0=A0 0.504503=A0 0 SM6BHZ JO57 30 > Chris G3XVL Ipswich (JO02NB) Thanks for the alert. Here's what I've been getting: 2004 -3 1.2 0.504496 -1 SM6BHZ JO57 30 2006 -4 1.1 0.504495 0 SM6BHZ JO57 30 2008 -2 1.3 0.504496 0 SM6BHZ JO57 30 2012 0 1.2 0.504496 -1 SM6BHZ JO57 30 2014 0 0.9 0.504495 1 SM6BHZ JO57 30 2016 -4 1.2 0.504496 0 SM6BHZ JO57 30 2018 -3 1.1 0.504496 0 SM6BHZ JO57 30 2020 -2 1.2 0.504496 0 SM6BHZ JO57 30 2022 -1 1.7 0.504496 0 SM6BHZ JO57 30 --=20 vy 73 + gd DX, Michael RX: ICOM R75, SDR-IQ, Perseus Antenna: Wellbrook ALA 1530, Mini-Whip Location: Roschbach, Germany N 49=B015' E 8=B007' / Locator JN49BF Editor of "The European NDB Handbook" & "The North American NDB Handbook" cf. http://lwca.org/miscdocs/oexner/2009NDBinfo.zip From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma09.mx.aol.com (rly-ma09.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.53]) by air-ma04.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMA041-8ca49be91821da; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 13:51:43 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma09.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA094-8ca49be91821da; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 13:51:00 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LjGxT-0005C7-CL for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 17:50:39 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LjGxS-0005By-5w for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 17:50:38 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.159]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LjGxP-0004cR-Mc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 17:50:38 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3433.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 3A0CC7000085 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 18:50:30 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.61.111]) by mwinf3433.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 283EA7000083 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 18:50:29 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20090316175029164.283EA7000083@mwinf3433.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: References: <009001c9a588$7eb02c60$6401a8c0@asus> <00e001c9a5a7$f07216a0$6401a8c0@asus> <826BA6086575402A8C87062492069F5A@AGB> <004501c9a623$a4bf81d0$6401a8c0@asus> In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 17:50:28 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8064.206 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8064.206 X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,EXTRA_MPART_TYPE=0.815,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software Content-Type: multipart/related; type="multipart/alternative"; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_006F_01C9A65F.B185F520" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_006F_01C9A65F.B185F520 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0070_01C9A65F.B185F520" ------=_NextPart_001_0070_01C9A65F.B185F520 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Andy, That's the problem with windows hihi .. lucky to get as pulse the same=20= minuet ....but what happens if the tx pulse is slightly before and after= the measurement window ? That was the idea behind the multiplex beacon .. plenty of room for pulse=20= jitter=20 G .=20 From: Andy Talbot=20 Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 11:17 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software Those two time slots of 15 minute interval plus 5 and 6 that generate the gr= een and blue traces could be used by others. There is no need to generate t= he full beacon sequence, just a precisely time 5 second transmission every 1= 5 minutes. All the monitoring software does is look at the carrier S/N duri= ng the precise interval of 25 to 30 seconds. So, if someone could come up with a Tx that transmits precisely for 5 second= intervals at xx:05:25 , xx:20:25, xx:35:20 and xx:50:35:25 where xx: is= the hour it will show up as the gree trace on Gary's plot. Similarly, at=20= xx:06:25 etc it will appear as the blue trace. =20 Try it manually to see :-) Timing is extremally important though. Accurcy needs to be within 0.5 seco= nds for the monitoring S/W to make an accurate level recording, which makes=20= GPS or network based controlled timing almost mandatory. I've switched off at the moment as mentioned earlier, but should be able to=20= activate again by about 18:30.=20 Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/3/16 Gary - G4WGT Hi Graham, LF, You wrote :- >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute interv= als. <<< that could be backed off to 15 mins as the beacon only sends ever= y 15 ??=20 I mentioned in my previous mail to ignore the text on the page as it was o= riginally for grabber 1 for when I upgrade the web site (to a new design & b= etter navigation etc), also mentioned is that upload is every 30 minutes. If the uploaded chart proves useful or interesting to operators & viewers=20= then I will change the text & make it a permanent feature for the foreseeabl= e future. BTW :- For those of you who are not familiar with the chart =96=20 The RED trace is Andy=92s (G4JNT) beacon signal & the BLACK trace is the n= oise level at my QTH. The Blue & GREEN are not in use & should be ignored on this chart as they=20= are for the other beacons used when monitoring on the 5MHz allocation. Cheers, Gary =96 G4WGT ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@black= sheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham Sent: 15 March 2009 22:17=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software=20 Gary.. That looks good ... 0500 looks best time for a qso .. see you then =20 >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute interv= als. <<< that could be backed off to 15 mins as the beacon only sends ever= y 15 ??=20 the 15 db over the noise in day time is the same at this qth .. looks li= ke the big dips round 1900 where just when we where testing .. typical hih= i tnx- G ..=20 From: Gary - G4WGT=20 Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 7:55 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: LF: RE: Syncback software LF, I have now got the software, Syncback running correctly (I think). The purpose of this is to upload the chart from Andy=92s beacon as receive= d here to my web site periodically, ie. every 30 minutes. I now have a receiver running 24/7 monitoring Andy,s beacon on 503.7KHz. You can view the chart on my web site at :- http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html For the moment ignore the text on the page as it is originally designed to= use with the 500KHz grabber when I renew my web site design. If it is a use= ful upload I will make it a permanent feature but may have to extend the fre= quency coverage of grabber 1 so not to overload the PC with operations which= will cause the PC to struggle. Let me have your comments please. 73 Gary =96 G4WGT. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@black= sheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT Sent: 15 March 2009 16:10 To: LF -RSGB LF Group Subject: LF: Syncback software Hi LF, If anyone is using Syncback software & can help, please. I am tying to upload a file to my website who=92s filename does not change= , only the file size changes. I tried to do it with Argo-upload but failed s= o I downloaded Syncback & still failing. Syncback gives me the following message :- ********************************** Can connect, but unable to change to destination directory: /chart01.bmp:not a directory ********************************** The Syncback help does not give me the answer. Any help will be appreciated Or Will Argo-Upload do it? Or Is there something else to do it? Thanks in anticipation, 73, Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.13/2001 - Release Date: 03/14/09= 06:54:00 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.15/2003 - Release Date: 03/15/09 1= 4:07:00 ------=_NextPart_001_0070_01C9A65F.B185F520 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Andy,
 
That's the  problem with windows hihi&= nbsp; ..=20 lucky  to  get as pulse the  same minuet  ....but w= hat=20 happens if the  tx pulse is slightly  before and  after the&n= bsp;=20 measurement window ?
 
That was the idea behind the multiplex beac= on =20 ... plenty of room for  pulse jitter
 
G .

Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 11:17 AM
Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software

Those two time slots of 15 minute interval plus 5 and 6 that gener= ate=20 the green and blue traces could be used by others.  There is no ne= ed=20 to generate the full beacon sequence, just a precisely time 5 second=20 transmission every 15 minutes.  All the monitoring software does is loo= k at=20 the carrier S/N during the precise interval of 25 to 30 seconds.
 
So, if someone could come up with a Tx that transmits precisely for 5=20 second intervals at xx:05:25 , xx:20:25,  xx:35:20 and =20 xx:50:35:25   where xx: is the hour it will show up as the gree tr= ace=20 on Gary's plot.   Similarly, at xx:06:25 etc it will appear as the= =20 blue trace. 
Try it manually to see :-)
 
Timing is extremally important though.   Accurcy needs to be=20 within 0.5 seconds for the monitoring S/W to make an accurate level recordin= g,=20 which makes GPS or network based controlled timing almost mandatory.
 
I've switched off at the moment as mentioned earlier, but should be abl= e to=20 activate again by about 18:30. 

Andy  G4JNT
= www.g4jnt.com


2009/3/16 Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>

Hi=20 Graham, LF,

<= /B> 

You=20 wrote :-

>&= gt;>Upload=20 is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute intervals.=20 <<< that could be backed off to  15 mins as the beacon=20 only  sends every 15 ??

<= /B> 

I=20 mentioned in my previous mail to ignore the text on the page as it was=20 originally for grabber 1 for when I upgrade the web site (to a new design=20 & better navigation etc), also mentioned is that upload is every 30=20 minutes.

<= /B> 

If=20 the uploaded chart proves useful or interesting to operators & viewers= =20 then I will change the text & make it a permanent feature for the=20 foreseeable future.

<= /B> 

BTW=20 :-

<= /B> 

For=20 those of you  who are not familiar with the chart =96=20

<= /B> 

The=20 RED trace is Andy=92s (G4JNT) beacon signal & the BLACK trace is the n= oise=20 level at my QTH.

<= /B> 

The=20 Blue & GREEN are not in use & should be ignored on this chart as t= hey=20 are for the other beacons used when monitoring on the 5MHz=20 allocation.

<= /B> 

Cheers,<= /FONT>

<= /B> 

Gary=20 =96 G4WGT

<= /B> 

<= /B> 

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:= owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham
Sent: 15 March 2009 22:17=20


To: rsgb_l= f_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback=20 software=20

 

Gary..

 

That looks good  .... 0500=20 looks best time for a qso .. see you then 3D"Smile 

 

>>>Upload is=20 set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute intervals. <<= <=20 that could be backed off to  15 mins as the beacon only  sends e= very=20 15 ??

 

the  15 db over=20 the noise in day time is the  same at this qth .. looks like the big=20= dips=20 round 1900  where just when we where testing ..  typical=20 hihi

 

tnx- G ..=20

 

From:<= /SPAN> Gary - G4WGT=20

Sent:<= /SPAN> Sunday,=20 March 15, 2009 7:55 PM

Subjec= t: LF: RE:=20 Syncback software

 

LF,

<= /B> 

I=20 have now got the software, Syncback running correctly (I=20 think).

<= /B> 

The=20 purpose of this is to upload the chart from Andy=92s beacon as received he= re to=20 my web site periodically, ie. every 30 minutes.

<= /B> 

I=20 now have a receiver running 24/7 monitoring Andy,s beacon on=20 503.7KHz.

<= /B> 

You=20 can view the chart on my web site at :-

<= /B> 

http:= //myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html

<= /B> 

For=20 the moment ignore the text on the page as it is originally designed to use= =20 with the 500KHz grabber when I renew my web site design. If it is a useful= =20 upload I will make it a permanent feature but may have to extend the frequ= ency=20 coverage of grabber 1 so not to overload the PC with operations which will= =20 cause the PC to struggle.

<= /B> 

Let=20 me have your comments please.

<= /B> 

73

<= /B> 

Gary=20 =96 G4WGT.

<= /B> 

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:= owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT
Sent: 15 March 2009 16:10
To: LF -RSGB LF Group
Subject: LF: Syncback=20 software

 

Hi=20 LF,

 

If anyone is=20 using Syncback software & can help, please.

 

I am tying to=20 upload a file to my website who=92s filename does not change, only the fil= e size=20 changes. I tried to do it with Argo-upload but failed so I downloaded Sync= back=20 & still failing.

 

Syncback gives=20 me the following message :-

 

**********************************=

Can connect,=20 but unable to change to destination directory:

/chart01.bmp:not=20 a directory

**********************************=

The Syncback=20 help does not give me the answer.

 

Any help will=20 be appreciated

 

Or

 

Will=20 Argo-Upload do it?

 

Or

 

Is there=20 something else to do it?

 

Thanks in=20 anticipation,

 

73,

 

Gary - G4WGT -=20 IO83QP.

 


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The purpose of this is to upload the chart from Andy's beacon as received here to my web site periodically, ie. every 30 minutes. I now have a receiver running 24/7 monitoring Andy,s beacon on 503.7KHz. You can view the chart on my web site at :- http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html For the moment ignore the text on the page as it is originally designed to use with the 500KHz grabber when I renew my web site design. If it is a useful upload I will make it a permanent feature but may have to extend the frequency coverage of grabber 1 so not to overload the PC with operations which will cause the PC to struggle. Let me have your comments please. 73 Gary - G4WGT. _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT Sent: 15 March 2009 16:10 To: LF -RSGB LF Group Subject: LF: Syncback software Hi LF, If anyone is using Syncback software & can help, please. I am tying to upload a file to my website who's filename does not change, only the file size changes. I tried to do it with Argo-upload but failed so I downloaded Syncback & still failing. Syncback gives me the following message :- ********************************** Can connect, but unable to change to destination directory: /chart01.bmp:not a directory ********************************** The Syncback help does not give me the answer. Any help will be appreciated Or Will Argo-Upload do it? Or Is there something else to do it? Thanks in anticipation, 73, Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. ------=_NextPart_000_00E1_01C9A5A7.F07216A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

LF,=

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I have now got the software, Syncback running correctly (I think).

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The purpose of this is to upload the chart from Andy’s beacon as received here to my web site periodically, ie. every 30 minutes.

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I now have a receiver running 24/7 monitoring Andy,s beacon on 503.7KHz.

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You can view the chart on my web site at :-

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http://myweb.tiscali.= co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html

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For the moment ignore the text on the page as it is originally designed to use with=20= the 500KHz grabber when I renew my web site design. If it is a useful upload I w= ill make it a permanent feature but may have to extend the frequency coverage of grabber 1 so not to overload the PC with operations which will cause the PC=20= to struggle.

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Let me have your comments please.

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73<= /o:p>

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Gary = 211; G4WGT.

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From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT<= br> Sent: 15 March 2009 16:10
To: LF -RSGB LF Group
Subject: LF: Syncback softwar= e

 

Hi LF,=

 =

If anyone is using Syncback sof= tware & can help, please.

 =

I am tying to upload a file to=20= my website who’s filename does not change, only the file size changes. I tried to= do it with Argo-upload but failed so I downloaded Syncback & still failing.=

 =

Syncback gives me the following= message :-

 =

*******************************= ***

Can connect, but unable to chan= ge to destination directory:

/chart01.bmp:not a directory

*******************************= ***

The Syncback help does not give= me the answer.

 =

Any help will be appreciated

 =

Or=

 =

Will Argo-Upload do it?

 =

Or=

 =

Is there something else to do i= t?

 =

Thanks in anticipation,

 =

73,

 

Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.=

 

------=_NextPart_000_00E1_01C9A5A7.F07216A0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf04.mx.aol.com (rly-mf04.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.174]) by air-mf03.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMF032-95749c15d353e0; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 16:45:02 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf04.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF045-95749c15d353e0; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 16:44:39 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lk2ct-0002gG-5T for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 20:44:35 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lk2cs-0002g6-Pr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 20:44:34 +0000 Received: from blu0-omc4-s6.blu0.hotmail.com ([65.55.111.145]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lk2cq-0001BH-T1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 20:44:34 +0000 Received: from BLU146-W22 ([65.55.111.135]) by blu0-omc4-s6.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 18 Mar 2009 13:44:27 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [196.40.0.241] From: Laurence BY3A-KL1X China To: , , Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 12:44:27 -0800 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Mar 2009 20:44:27.0150 (UTC) FILETIME=[54232AE0:01C9A80A] X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_248c3130-bfc4-4150-837a-fec198354767_" Subject: LF: RE: Ti3 wspr 507.00 tonight and qrss 3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_248c3130-bfc4-4150-837a-fec198354767_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Please make qrss 3 freq 507.500 to 670 - thanks =20 Laurence =20 From: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com To: shmrg@piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu; lowfer@mailman.qth.net; rsgb_lf_group@b= lacksheep.org Subject: Ti3 wspr 507.00 tonight and qrss 3 Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 12:35:13 -0800 =20 Will be "listening" 507 dial wspr and qrss 3 slow 507.000 -507.170 tonight f= rom my dusk till dawn. =20 nominations for modes and freqs near 505 et al for tomorrow welcomed. =20 =20 Laurence ti3/ kl 1 x =20 =20 =20 Windows Live=99 Groups: Create an online spot for your favorite groups to me= et. Check it out. _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live=99 Groups: Create an online spot for your favorite groups to me= et. http://windowslive.com/online/groups?ocid=3DTXT_TAGLM_WL_groups_032009=3D --_248c3130-bfc4-4150-837a-fec198354767_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Please make qrss  3 freq  507.500 to 670 - thanks
 
Laurence
 
From: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com
To: shmrg@piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu;= lowfer@mailman.qth.net; rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Ti3 wspr 5= 07.00 tonight and qrss 3
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 12:35:13 -0800

 
Will be "listening" 507 dial wspr and qrss 3 slow 507.000 -507.170= tonight from my dusk till dawn.
 
nominations for modes and freq= s  near 505 et al for tomorrow welcomed.
 
 
Laurenc= e ti3/ kl 1 x
 
 
 

Windows Live=99 Groups: Create an online spot for your favorite groups to me= et. Check it out.
Windows Live=99 Groups: Create an on= line spot for your favorite groups to meet. Check it=20= out. =3D --_248c3130-bfc4-4150-837a-fec198354767_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (rly-mg03.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.109]) by air-mg03.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG033-a0549c76bd83db; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 07:00:57 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG037-a0549c76bd83db; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 07:00:43 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LlhtT-0005zs-Ds for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 11:00:35 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LlhtT-0005zi-1o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 11:00:35 +0000 Received: from smtp818.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([77.238.189.18]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LlhtP-0003oX-MI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 11:00:34 +0000 Received: (qmail 16693 invoked from network); 23 Mar 2009 11:00:26 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=3YqfxCNbz3OvPGFWkASRUAj+aLQD1rJnh1w3cMkD/4+jfMqPJultxqyqVZzQ8tQdGq6+bmEW644XwBZl2o6vOcgBtWqtjVglq17W57rlj1KXSPlyf9C2HpeAZUE4JT5r7XJC1gGVKslAUCAgBjNExzgtlBKuk3eu230uVzGFM2Q= ; Received: from unknown (HELO Lark) (alan.melia@213.122.9.196 with login) by smtp818.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Mar 2009 11:00:25 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: olK38pIVM1lD8ywP0O2TpPYB3NzivASlTeQDu2AzLp.kiwsAT4N011r7Kseaou0A5PuKe9Ommr48U24RgzNf9029meh3H_X00iPNmJGE6pTPUjELZ6HuOkWk2gy9C7Ly2Wax7VUCVD_RKf3iKi2WXJtLjt2jhp6QSt9kSDf_Btrwcb3V_7Z8Frl65BIVRy9dAiAskNLIyLYEEdHg44m4dh.fExw- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <003901c9aba6$90c4b0a0$0900a8c0@AM> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <5931f8db0903230322l32c6424i6e35d6764448381b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 10:29:37 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Subject: Re: LF: RE: 136kHz activity 21 March [G3MFW] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Harry congratulations on your successes on LF it is great to have someone down in your area....I see you have discovered the real "secret equation".... LF = Lotsa Friends = Lotsa Fun Best Wishes Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harry Woodhouse" To: Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 10:22 AM Subject: Re: LF: RE: 136kHz activity 21 March [G3MFW] Dear Dave & others on LF Group. I have just joined the LF Group - I'm afraid I find the internet rather challenging! I am amazed at the help and friendship I have received. Thank you all for your encouragement. I have learned a lot already from the Group, and will continue to read & learn. I cannot transmit on Sundays - we are involved with our local village church, but I hope to be on again next Saturday morning 28th March. If members have no time for a QSO, your reports are most welcome. Best 73s, Harry G3MFW On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 11:28 PM, wrote: > Thanx Dave,very interresting measures. > > > *F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP > http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/* > > > > Dans un e-mail daté du 22/03/2009 23:08:24 Paris, Madrid, > ganymede444@btopenworld.com a écrit : > > LF, > > Congratulations to Harry G3MFW for putting a very strong signal into > IO91RM. > Screenshot attached. Mike G3XDV also captured on the screenshot. > > Signal strengths measured on my "Tee" antenna with the SPM-30 as follows:- > > G3XDV -42 dBm > G3MFW -61 dBm > F6BWO -70 dBm > F4DTL -73 dBm > Noise floor -80 dBm in 24 Hz bandwidth > > > 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor, SE England > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg05.mx.aol.com (rly-mg05.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.111]) by air-mg09.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMG092-a1649ba3c3b1cd; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 06:58:10 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg05.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG058-a1649ba3c3b1cd; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 06:58:06 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Li555-0001X4-3u for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 10:57:35 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Li554-0001Wv-HM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 10:57:34 +0000 Received: from mail-fx0-f174.google.com ([209.85.220.174]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Li551-0004Zp-KL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 10:57:34 +0000 Received: by fxm22 with SMTP id 22so2627708fxm.4 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 03:57:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=hIEZvTN/PegvPia/mptFY3mhmJtwDF4D+oSFHmgOUnk=; b=uIr4tuSwp3Fy/q8v22qa8RxGrFPZgZOlGThejIGJx1qWNRV3G/YIvLH3kbJS9BQ2Bi IitLd4gUZhYBFsOguUn58T/3H7TKG2nJLwppV4y4ZZ4qSN2rOwgPnRuyXgnqrNGx/L6c 3DedDGn0WfdZ/Keg2VEobmbkpyoe6nVUXWgWg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=ODRR6fYI8mvZp2MBy2aaFTUd/a94/h9eNvhd5+Gn7sLYwyXY7RhMQMplaEXd9rUmn/ Mg+NKpiB4RU3id1cUAmThtsJfaTtkETdESOucQGeHPNYYgDTiqCKy216QKZqYAmPuaRJ dCUujAO2tSUnWeSkVHX8TGDkrw0VkBbMmSgsM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.118.142 with SMTP id v14mr332815bkq.37.1236941843431; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 03:57:23 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 10:57:23 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, uk_beacons@yahoogroups.com X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Multi-function beacon Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d99bef2f80860464fdf70c X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m234.1 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : fail X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --0016e6d99bef2f80860464fdf70c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just a reminder to all - this beacon is still going, and will probably continue to do so until further notice. A few listeners have downloaded the software, and thanks to all (you know who your are :-) for the plots / listings. I am not in a position to compile them, so don't expect revelations, but Gerhard / DK6NI has been monitoring pretty well continuously, and has plotted some deep fades / enhancements measured over hours with depths in the regions of 30dB. Are there any stations in the US in a position to monitor ? Please note that if using the recommended 5meg beacon monitoring software you'll either have to set the delta time to -240 (or -180 or -120) seconds or adjust the PC clock by two, three or four minutes to cope with the four minute offset I'm running it on. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/3/6 Andy Talbot > I've now started transmitting a timed beacon signal on 503.7kHz that > is identical in format to that of GB3SSS operated over the winter months of > the last two years from Poldhu on 1.9 and 3.5MHz, and has a similar signal > structure to the 5MHz beacons, GB3RAL, WES and ORK. These all have an > initial CW ident and stepped power levels for aural reception, and a > precisely defined period of full-power plain carrier for S/N measurements. > See http://www.rsgb-spectrumforum.org.uk/5mhz%20beacons.htm for the > complete 5MHz signal structure. For this MF transmission, as on GB3SSS, > the pulsed sounder sequence of the 5MHz beacons is replaced with a PSK31 > message which lasts from 30s to approx 48 seconds after the start > > Auto Monitoring software writen by G3PLX is available for monitoring > these beacons, it measures signal to noise during the carrier period and > saves to file as well as plotting the last 40 hours worth of measurements. > The software can be downloaded from > http://www.rsgb.org/spectrumforum/hf/beaconauto.php . PSK31 data can be > copied with Digipan, Fldigi, PSK31SBW or a host of other packages. > > *TIMING * > The 503.7kHz transmission takes place every 15 minutes at 4 minutes past > the quarter hour. > ie each transmission starts at *xx:04, xx:19, xx:34 and xx:49 * This > time slot has been selected so that the transmission do not interfere with > my continuous ongoing reception of the 5Mhz beacons - the active antenna > used for these is overloaded by the 500kHz signal and I have already lost > data when the WSPR beacon transmission coincided with one of the monitoring > windows. > > NOTE If using the G3PLX software, this only monitors for the three 5MHz > beacons at 00, 01 and 02 minutes. > *SO IT WILL BE NECESSARY TO FRIG THE SOFTWARE * to monitor > this transmission at the 04 minute point. The necessary alteration can be > done by firstly setting your PC clock accurately to the correct time, then > setting the Track Time box to -240 (minus 240 seconds). This will make the > software look for this transmission during the time window it thinks it > would be receiving GB3RAL, and log the MF transmission during the first > minute, on the red trace, as if it were GB3RAL > > The beacon uses the identical hardware to the WSPR transmissions of the > last few weeks, with the the only change being a reprogramming of the > controller PIC. In fact the very same hardware was previously loaned to > the Poldhu club for their beacons, with the only difference being a change > to the final Low Pass filter on the output of the broadband PA. > > > > --0016e6d99bef2f80860464fdf70c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Just a reminder to all - this beacon is still going, and will probably=20= continue to do so until further notice.=A0=A0 A few listeners have downloade= d the software, and thanks to all (you know who your are :-) for the plots /= listings.=A0=A0 I am not in a position to compile them, so don't expect= revelations, but Gerhard=A0 /=A0 DK6NI has been monitoring pretty well=A0co= ntinuously, and has plotted some=A0deep fades / enhancements measured over h= ours with depths in the regions of 30dB.
=A0
Are there any stations in the US in a position to monitor ?=A0=A0
=A0
Please note that if using the recommended 5meg beacon monitoring softwa= re you'll either have to set the delta time to -240 (or -180 or -120) se= conds or adjust the PC clock by two, three or four minutes to cope with the=20= four minute offset I'm running it on.
=A0
Andy =A0G4JNT
2009/3/6 Andy Talbot <andy.g4jnt@googlema= il.com>
I've now=A0started transmitting a timed=A0 beacon signal on 503.7kH= z that is=A0identical in format to that of GB3SSS operated over the winter m= onths of the last two years=A0=A0from Poldhu on 1.9 and 3.5MHz, =A0and has= =A0a similar signal structure to the 5MHz beacons, GB3RAL, WES and ORK.=A0 T= hese all have=A0an initial CW ident and=A0stepped power levels for aural rec= eption,=A0and a precisely defined period of full-power plain carrier for S/N= measurements.=A0=A0
See=A0 =A0http://www.rsgb-spectrumforum.org.uk/5mhz%20beacons= .htm=A0 for the complete 5MHz =A0signal structure.=A0=A0For this MF tran= smission, as on GB3SSS, the pulsed sounder sequence of the 5MHz beacons is r= eplaced with a PSK31 message which lasts from=A030s to approx 48 seconds aft= er the start
=A0
Auto Monitoring software writen by G3PLX is available for monitoring th= ese beacons, it measures signal to noise during the carrier period and saves= to file as well as plotting the last 40 hours worth of measurements.
The software can be downloaded from=A0 http://www.rsgb.org/spectr= umforum/hf/beaconauto.php=A0.=A0=A0 PSK31 data can be copied with Digipa= n, Fldigi, PSK31SBW or a host of other packages.
=A0
TIMING
The 503.7kHz transmission takes place every 15 minutes at 4 minutes pas= t the quarter hour.=A0
ie=A0each transmission starts at xx:04, xx:19, xx:34 and xx:49= =A0=A0=A0=A0This time slot has been selected so that the transmissi= on do not interfere with my continuous ongoing reception of the 5Mhz beacons= - the active antenna used for these is overloaded by the 500kHz signal and=20= I have already lost data when the WSPR beacon transmission coincided with on= e of the monitoring windows.
=A0
NOTE=A0=A0 If using the=A0G3PLX software, this only=A0monitors for the=20= three 5MHz beacons at =A000, 01 and 02 minutes.
SO IT WILL BE NECESSARY=A0TO FRIG=A0THE SOFTWARE =A0to= monitor this=A0transmission at the 04 minute point.=A0=A0=A0The necessary a= lteration can be done by firstly setting=A0your PC clock accurately to the c= orrect time, then setting the Track Time box to -240 (minus 240 seconds)..= =A0 This will make the software look for this transmission during the time= =A0window it thinks it would be receiving GB3RAL, and log the=A0MF transmiss= ion during the first minute, on the red trace, as if it were GB3RAL=A0
=A0
The beacon uses the identical hardware to the=A0WSPR transmissions of= =A0the last few weeks, with the the only change being a=A0reprogramming of t= he controller PIC.=A0=A0 In fact the very same hardware was previously loane= d to the Poldhu club for their beacons, with the only difference being a cha= nge to the final Low Pass filter on the output of the broadband PA.
=A0

--0016e6d99bef2f80860464fdf70c-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de03.mx.aol.com (rly-de03.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.139]) by air-de06.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDE062-4c349b93b762ad; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 12:43:17 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de03.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE034-4c349b93b762ad; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 12:42:36 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LhnyZ-0004R5-48 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 16:41:43 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LhnyY-0004Qw-QR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 16:41:42 +0000 Received: from cpsmtpm-eml103.kpnxchange.com ([195.121.3.7]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LhnyW-0008Md-3s for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 16:41:42 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 ([81.204.139.159]) by CPSMTPM-EML103.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.0.6001.18000); Thu, 12 Mar 2009 17:41:35 +0100 Message-ID: From: "henny van elst" To: "blacksheep" Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 17:41:13 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Mar 2009 16:41:35.0779 (UTC) FILETIME=[6871E730:01C9A331] X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 184khz Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01C9A339.BCBDF9C0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.7 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_70_80, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C9A339.BCBDF9C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Joe,LF nothing on the screen Joe, Henny pa3cpm 73s ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C9A339.BCBDF9C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Joe,LF
nothing on the screen Joe,
Henny pa3cpm
73s
------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C9A339.BCBDF9C0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf10.mx.aol.com (rly-mf10.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.180]) by air-mf10.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMF102-98749c3c9bf110; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 12:52:35 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf10.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF105-98749c3c9bf110; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 12:52:18 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lkhwd-00061I-9l for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 16:51:43 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lkhwc-000619-UV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 16:51:42 +0000 Received: from mail-qy0-f107.google.com ([209.85.221.107]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lkhwa-00079V-Ia for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 16:51:42 +0000 Received: by qyk5 with SMTP id 5so1417903qyk.30 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 09:51:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=YvXtZo0xLYU0pfigKK7/PHd7+BbP8FJa0+TSG4Vp/Is=; b=BNirx1goG/o0czmsdW1oqaqjuO6YEZQ01DI1PFJSJyl687rnvu0xIbarX9gtWwZkoy 3tFMR+VN00t2JTvLi/Tk6BrHLqWCup98uGQamLMLEYoXPsmDT264hVIDxj2rWpWESTIU 0wEu5dQD0BVG2hd5E6W4bJG6dIij5bmi4sLVg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=vLeuWTbXjWUd39I1CfQFKdm7WtxyRDJD7K4p4gqkaWoxRxWTV7p/mAhdJxqa58Lk9r pM3JwJcp8LTKad0HdfiDEF5sA4TO229/i3jwiT3EUaeJaFy9pe8IP+Bettne42HVC3/l p+AKqGdYaSHfJooUEH8l0MtlGNEDDgb5v4hDo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.11.136 with SMTP id t8mr5452055qat.33.1237567894255; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 09:51:34 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 11:51:34 -0500 Message-ID: <57a24ca70903200951x42ca0ee9rac2f6e87b975896c@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Ropex Info? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d245.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : fail X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello the list, I have just acquired a Ropex "The First" transmitter for 136kHz - but without documentation of any kind. I know that Ropex did not supply anything more than a single sheet of instructions but I'm lacking even that. Questions: 1) Anyone have a copy of the instruction sheet that they could copy or scan? 2) Any info on mods (injecting an external vfo for example)? 3) Anybody do any 'reverse engineering' of the circuit? Any info at all is much appreciated! -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md05.mx.aol.com (rly-md05.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.143]) by air-md10.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD104-90849cacd9c1f3; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 20:34:48 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md05.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD058-90849cacd9c1f3; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 20:34:38 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LmdXn-00044J-FW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 00:34:03 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LmdXn-00044A-31 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 00:34:03 +0000 Received: from [193.252.22.192] (helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LmdXj-0008UP-44 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 00:34:03 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3626.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 5BB687000085 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 01:33:43 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.50.116]) by mwinf3626.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 20E497000083 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 01:33:43 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20090326003343134.20E497000083@mwinf3626.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <176DEB86C8544FA1AEC66530436203C2@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <86B4F549F8F247DDA470143B3BE77364@Hugh> <008c01c9ad63$4e9a9190$6401a8c0@asus> In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 00:33:42 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8064.206 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8064.206 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: Re: LF: WSPR Beacon 502.4 KHz Take 2 ON OVER NIGHT Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=LINES_OF_YELLING, LINES_OF_YELLING_2,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME,UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 BEACON - ON OVERNIGHT QRT - EXPECTED 0800 (UNLESS TRIPED .. THEN 14 DB LOWER) -------------------------------------------------- From: "Graham" Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 6:02 PM To: Subject: LF: WSPR Beacon 502.4 KHz Take 2 > > Making hay while the sun (doesn't shine) ...take 2 > > Due to problems tx and rx .! > > Running WSPR Beacon as of 1800 GMT > > G0NBD 502.4 DIAL NOW TILL LATER POSS OVER NIGHT > (will confirm near 2400) > > > Tnx- G .. > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.283 / Virus Database: 270.11.27/2021 - Release Date: 03/24/09 > 16:00:00 > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da08.mx.aol.com (rly-da08.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.82]) by air-da06.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDA063-a8749bdf35e365; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 02:36:33 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da08.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA087-a8749bdf35e365; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 02:36:18 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lj6Q9-0002b2-QP for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 06:35:33 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lj6Q9-0002at-6V for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 06:35:33 +0000 Received: from smtp109.prem.mail.sp1.yahoo.com ([98.136.44.54]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lj6Q8-0006W5-J7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 06:35:33 +0000 Received: (qmail 84825 invoked from network); 16 Mar 2009 06:35:25 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=DwGIrlldhSxpNwbznJjyaGEKEv4lEZ8r0FbZTnr/30YzcSWFd2dMaqoDN4BccKlF7C2tmbyQqg1zeq4mfL7zWpMeHijCs44wwuVUG8HunkYoMYB8KePRdEeEUVXXvtwO/BGKeDarq+9rArbCDeL+wD9HuSfthiRf0QfHEbMabGs= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.100?) (we0h@75.168.139.227 with plain) by smtp109.prem.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Mar 2009 06:35:25 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: jA5TLwQVM1m8KZFS1wOwicpSa_EHZJWKVoFRb8Rn7vXi9HUU8YYC25.wtLwrxuK4bjNzIcUrZ_M0UYD5tIUWGyo3M8smkbqnzinZcg335wVFMhBa57nnj9c.HETI80M2SpLA3ZS.GxzImapXpvWCqIikoFFDr9yRA91yCd4OuISTBlu7bH8KZZynS_XvvhtIx_5T6mzvqViEA8LguvgXNiWC34sWcahGYAboR9Sw_J_Fd2cjpvacPjjxmHH4qCNzygnSaiFmZqKNiu4dbf9Ul75TLsr9 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <49BDF319.6080900@yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 01:35:05 -0500 From: Mike-WE0H User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <200903141634.37933.ve8rt@xplornet.com> In-Reply-To: <200903141634.37933.ve8rt@xplornet.com> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Re: LF: Getting started, maybe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Ron, I built a pair of these loops for receiving. They work excellent. http://www.we0h.us/505kc/Simple-RX-Loop-Antenna/ Let me know if you want to try and listen for my signal. I can put a beacon on the air anytime. CW or PSK-31 Mike WE0H WD2XSH/16 Ron T wrote: > I've been reading the occasional posting to the list, wondering if I could > find some time and money to work with. As we do not yet have licences for > the 500KHz band, the best place to start would be setting up for receiving. > > From my location is it likely that I could receive any amateur stations on > 600 metres? Any recommendations for a relatively compact antenna? I do have > a reasonably good receiver that covers the band, a Ten Tec SP-325 (crystal > oven oscillators). > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc04.mx.aol.com (rly-dc04.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.33]) by air-dc10.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDC104-b1749bd7e8e21c; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 18:18:01 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc04.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC043-b1749bd7e8e21c; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 18:17:52 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Liydy-0000dD-7n for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 22:17:18 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Liydx-0000d4-CU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 22:17:17 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.151] helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Liyds-000697-KM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 22:17:17 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3524.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id F17811C00086 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 23:17:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.110.65.135]) by mwinf3524.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 472F01C00085 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 23:17:06 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20090315221706291.472F01C00085@mwinf3524.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <826BA6086575402A8C87062492069F5A@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <009001c9a588$7eb02c60$6401a8c0@asus> <00e001c9a5a7$f07216a0$6401a8c0@asus> In-Reply-To: <00e001c9a5a7$f07216a0$6401a8c0@asus> Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 22:17:04 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8064.206 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8064.206 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,EXTRA_MPART_TYPE=0.815,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software Content-Type: multipart/related; type="multipart/alternative"; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00D0_01C9A5BB.C5BFF990" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_00D0_01C9A5BB.C5BFF990 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_00D1_01C9A5BB.C5BFF990" ------=_NextPart_001_00D1_01C9A5BB.C5BFF990 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Gary.. That looks good ... 0500 looks best time for a qso .. see you then =20 >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute interval= s. <<< that could be backed off to 15 mins as the beacon only sends every=20= 15 ??=20 the 15 db over the noise in day time is the same at this qth .. looks like= the big dips round 1900 where just when we where testing .. typical hihi tnx- G ..=20 From: Gary - G4WGT=20 Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 7:55 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: LF: RE: Syncback software LF, =20 I have now got the software, Syncback running correctly (I think). =20 The purpose of this is to upload the chart from Andy's beacon as received he= re to my web site periodically, ie. every 30 minutes. =20 I now have a receiver running 24/7 monitoring Andy,s beacon on 503.7KHz. =20 You can view the chart on my web site at :- =20 http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html =20 For the moment ignore the text on the page as it is originally designed to u= se with the 500KHz grabber when I renew my web site design. If it is a usefu= l upload I will make it a permanent feature but may have to extend the frequ= ency coverage of grabber 1 so not to overload the PC with operations which w= ill cause the PC to struggle. =20 Let me have your comments please. =20 73 =20 Gary - G4WGT. =20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksh= eep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT Sent: 15 March 2009 16:10 To: LF -RSGB LF Group Subject: LF: Syncback software =20 Hi LF, =20 If anyone is using Syncback software & can help, please. =20 I am tying to upload a file to my website who's filename does not change, on= ly the file size changes. I tried to do it with Argo-upload but failed so I=20= downloaded Syncback & still failing. =20 Syncback gives me the following message :- =20 ********************************** Can connect, but unable to change to destination directory: /chart01.bmp:not a directory ********************************** The Syncback help does not give me the answer. =20 Any help will be appreciated =20 Or =20 Will Argo-Upload do it? =20 Or =20 Is there something else to do it? =20 Thanks in anticipation, =20 73, =20 Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. =20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.13/2001 - Release Date: 03/14/09 0= 6:54:00 ------=_NextPart_001_00D1_01C9A5BB.C5BFF990 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Gary..
 
That looks good  ... 0500 looks best t= ime for=20 a qso .. see you then 3D"Smile 
 
&g= t;>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2=20 minute intervals. <<< that could be backed off to  15 mins as=20= the=20 beacon only  sends every 15 ??
 
the&= nbsp; 15=20 db over the noise in day time is the  same at this qth .. looks like th= e=20 big dips round 1900  where just when we where testing ..  typical=20 hihi
 
tnx-= G ..=20

Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 7:55 PM
Subject: LF: RE: Syncback software

L= F,

<= o:p> 

I= =20 have now got the software, Syncback running correctly (I=20 think).

<= o:p> 

T= he=20 purpose of this is to upload the chart from Andy=92s beacon as received here= to my=20 web site periodically, ie. every 30 minutes.

<= o:p> 

I= =20 now have a receiver running 24/7 monitoring Andy,s beacon on=20 503.7KHz.

<= o:p> 

Y= ou=20 can view the chart on my web site at :-

<= o:p> 

<= A href=3D"http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html">http://myweb.= tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html

<= o:p> 

F= or=20 the moment ignore the text on the page as it is originally designed to use w= ith=20 the 500KHz grabber when I renew my web site design. If it is a useful upload= I=20 will make it a permanent feature but may have to extend the frequency covera= ge=20 of grabber 1 so not to overload the PC with operations which will cause the=20= PC=20 to struggle.

<= o:p> 

L= et=20 me have your comments please.

<= o:p> 

7= 3

<= o:p> 

G= ary=20 =96 G4WGT.

<= o:p> 

From:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g]=20 On Behalf Of Gary -=20 G4WGT
Sent: 15 March 2009= =20 16:10
To: LF -RSGB LF Group
Subject: LF: Syncback=20 software

 

Hi=20 LF,

 

If anyone is=20 using Syncback software & can help, please.=

 

I am tying to=20 upload a file to my website who=92s filename does not change, only the file=20= size=20 changes. I tried to do it with Argo-upload but failed so I downloaded Syncba= ck=20 & still failing.

 

Syncback gives me=20 the following message :-

 

***************************= *******

Can connect, but=20 unable to change to destination directory:

/chart01.bmp:not=20 a directory

***************************= *******

The Syncback help=20 does not give me the answer.

 

Any help will be=20 appreciated

 

Or=

 

Will Argo-Upload=20 do it?

 

Or=

 

Is there=20 something else to do it?

 

Thanks in=20 anticipation,

 

73,=

 

Gary - G4WGT -=20 IO83QP.

 


No virus found in this incoming message.
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There is no need to generate the full beacon sequence, just a precisely time 5 second transmission every 15 minutes. All the monitoring software does is look at the carrier S/N during the precise interval of 25 to 30 seconds. So, if someone could come up with a Tx that transmits precisely for 5 second intervals at xx:05:25 , xx:20:25, xx:35:20 and xx:50:35:25 where xx: is the hour it will show up as the gree trace on Gary's plot. Similarly, at xx:06:25 etc it will appear as the blue trace. Try it manually to see :-) Timing is extremally important though. Accurcy needs to be within 0.5 seconds for the monitoring S/W to make an accurate level recording, which makes GPS or network based controlled timing almost mandatory. I've switched off at the moment as mentioned earlier, but should be able to activate again by about 18:30. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/3/16 Gary - G4WGT > *Hi Graham, LF,* > > * * > > *You wrote :-* > > *>>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute > intervals. <<< that could be backed off to 15 mins as the beacon only > sends every 15 ?? *** > > * * > > *I mentioned in my previous mail to ignore the text on the page as it was > originally for grabber 1 for when I upgrade the web site (to a new design=20= & > better navigation etc), also mentioned is that upload is every 30 minutes.= . > * > > * * > > *If the uploaded chart proves useful or interesting to operators & viewers > then I will change the text & make it a permanent feature for the > foreseeable future.* > > * * > > *BTW :-* > > * * > > *For those of you who are not familiar with the chart =96 * > > * * > > *The RED trace is Andy=92s (G4JNT) beacon signal & the BLACK trace is the > noise level at my QTH.* > > * * > > *The Blue & GREEN are not in use & should be ignored on this chart as they > are for the other beacons used when monitoring on the 5MHz allocation.* > > * * > > *Cheers,* > > * * > > *Gary =96 G4WGT* > > * * > > * * > ------------------------------ > > *From:* owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto: > owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] *On Behalf Of *Graham > *Sent:* 15 March 2009 22:17 > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > *Subject:* Re: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > Gary.. > > > > That looks good ... 0500 looks best time for a qso .. see you then [image= : > Smile emoticon] > > > > *>>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute > intervals. <<< that could be backed off to 15 mins as the beacon only > sends every 15 ?? * > > > > *the 15 db over the noise in day time is the same at this qth .. looks > like the big dips round 1900 where just when we where testing .. typical > hihi* > > > > *tnx- G .. * > > > > *From:* Gary - G4WGT > > *Sent:* Sunday, March 15, 2009 7:55 PM > > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > *Subject:* LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > *LF,* > > * * > > *I have now got the software, Syncback running correctly (I think).* > > * * > > *The purpose of this is to upload the chart from Andy=92s beacon as receiv= ed > here to my web site periodically, ie. every 30 minutes.* > > * * > > *I now have a receiver running 24/7 monitoring Andy,s beacon on 503.7KHz.* > > * * > > *You can view the chart on my web site at :-* > > * * > > *http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html* > > * * > > *For the moment ignore the text on the page as it is originally designed > to use with the 500KHz grabber when I renew my web site design. If it is a > useful upload I will make it a permanent feature but may have to extend th= e > frequency coverage of grabber 1 so not to overload the PC with operations > which will cause the PC to struggle.* > > * * > > *Let me have your comments please.* > > * * > > *73* > > * * > > *Gary =96 G4WGT.* > > * * > ------------------------------ > > *From:* owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto: > owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] *On Behalf Of *Gary - G4WGT > *Sent:* 15 March 2009 16:10 > *To:* LF -RSGB LF Group > *Subject:* LF: Syncback software > > > > *Hi LF,* > > * * > > *If anyone is using Syncback software & can help, please.* > > * * > > *I am tying to upload a file to my website who=92s filename does not chang= e, > only the file size changes. I tried to do it with Argo-upload but failed s= o > I downloaded Syncback & still failing.* > > * * > > *Syncback gives me the following message :-* > > * * > > ************************************ > > *Can connect, but unable to change to destination directory:* > > */chart01.bmp:not a directory* > > ************************************ > > *The Syncback help does not give me the answer.* > > * * > > *Any help will be appreciated* > > * * > > *Or* > > * * > > *Will Argo-Upload do it?* > > * * > > *Or* > > * * > > *Is there something else to do it?* > > * * > > *Thanks in anticipation,* > > * * > > *73,* > > > > *Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.* > > > ------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.13/2001 - Release Date: 03/14/09 > 06:54:00 > --001636c5bcc5465dfe04653a9ad1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Those two time slots of 15 minute interval plus 5 and 6=A0that generate= the green and blue traces=A0could be used by others.=A0 There is no need to= generate the full beacon sequence, just a precisely time 5 second transmiss= ion every 15 minutes.=A0 All the monitoring software does is look at the car= rier S/N during the precise interval of 25 to 30 seconds.
=A0
So, if someone could come up with a Tx that transmits precisely for 5 s= econd intervals at=A0xx:05:25 , xx:20:25, =A0xx:35:20 and=A0 xx:50:35:25=A0= =A0 where xx: is the hour it will show up as the gree trace on Gary's pl= ot.=A0=A0 Similarly, at xx:06:25 etc it will appear as the blue trace.=A0
Try it manually to see :-)
=A0
Timing is extremally important though.=A0=A0 Accurcy needs to be within= 0.5 seconds for the monitoring S/W to make an accurate level recording, whi= ch makes GPS or network based controlled timing almost mandatory.
=A0
I've switched off at the moment as mentioned earlier, but should be= able to activate again by about 18:30.=A0

Andy =A0G4JNT
www= .g4jnt.com


2009/3/16 Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>

Hi Graham, LF,<= /span>

=A0

You wrote :-

>&= gt;>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute inte= rvals. <<< that could be backed off to=A0 15 mins as the beacon onl= y=A0 sends every 15 ??

=A0

I mentioned in=20= my previous mail to ignore the text on the page as it was originally for gra= bber 1 for when I upgrade the web site (to a new design & better navigat= ion etc), also mentioned is that upload is every 30 minutes.

=A0

If the uploaded= chart proves useful or interesting to operators & viewers then I will c= hange the text & make it a permanent feature for the foreseeable future.=

=A0

BTW :-

=A0

For those of yo= u=A0 who are not familiar with the chart =96

=A0

The RED trace i= s Andy=92s (G4JNT) beacon signal & the BLACK trace is the noise level at= my QTH.

=A0

The Blue &=20= GREEN are not in use & should be ignored on this chart as they are for t= he other beacons used when monitoring on the 5MHz allocation.<= /b>

=A0

Cheers,<= /font>

=A0

Gary =96 G4WGT<= /span>

=A0

=A0

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_= lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf=20= Of Graham
Sent: 15 March 2009 22:17=20


To: rsgb_lf_grou= p@blacksheep.org
Subject:<= /span> Re: LF: RE: Syncback software<= /span>=20

=A0

Gary..

=A0

That looks good=A0 ... 0500 looks best time for a qso .. see you=20= then 3D"Smile=A0

=A0

>>>Upload is set=20= at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute intervals. <<< t= hat could be backed off to=A0 15 mins as the beacon only=A0 sends every 15 ?= ?

=A0

the=A0 15 db over the nois= e in day time is the=A0 same at this qth .. looks like the big dips round 19= 00=A0 where just when we where testing ..=A0 typical hihi<= /strong>

=A0

tnx- G ..

=A0

Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 7:55 PM

Subject:= LF: RE: Syncback software

=A0

LF,

=A0

I have now got=20= the software, Syncback running correctly (I think).

=A0

The purpose of=20= this is to upload the chart from Andy=92s beacon as received here to my web=20= site periodically, ie. every 30 minutes.

=A0

I now have a re= ceiver running 24/7 monitoring Andy,s beacon on 503.7KHz.<= /p>

=A0

You can view th= e chart on my web site at :-

=A0

http://mywe= b.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html

=A0

For the moment=20= ignore the text on the page as it is originally designed to use with the 500= KHz grabber when I renew my web site design. If it is a useful upload I will= make it a permanent feature but may have to extend the frequency coverage o= f grabber 1 so not to overload the PC with operations which will cause the P= C to struggle.

=A0

Let me have you= r comments please.

=A0

73

=A0

Gary =96 G4WGT.=

=A0

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_= lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf=20= Of Gary - G4WGT
Sent: 15 March 2009 16:10To: LF -RSGB LF Group
Subject: LF: Syncback software=

=A0

Hi LF,

=A0

If anyone is using Syncback software &=20= can help, please.

=A0

I am tying to upload a file to my website w= ho=92s filename does not change, only the file size changes. I tried to do i= t with Argo-upload but failed so I downloaded Syncback & still failing.<= /span>

=A0

Syncback gives me the following message :-<= /span>

=A0

**********************************

Can connect, but unable to change to destin= ation directory:

/chart01.bmp:not a directory<= /b>

**********************************

The Syncback help does not give me the answ= er.

=A0

Any help will be appreciated<= /b>

=A0

Or

=A0

Will Argo-Upload do it?

=A0

Or

=A0

Is there something else to do it?

=A0

Thanks in anticipation,

=A0

73,

=A0

Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.

=A0


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(VPS 090216-1, 02/16/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Z-USANET-MsgId: XID920NcHRGn8672X36 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: energy saving bulbs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Alan Melia wrote: > They take several 10s of seconds to reach usable brightness....longer than > tuble starters. No good for short spells of activity as they are only > becomming usable when they are switched off. Hmmm, maybe this was true until the very last generation of energy-saving bulbs. I bought a couple of weeks ago a bulb, rated for 85W electrical consumption, and a light emission comparable (they say on the cardbox) to a normal lamp of 400W, to give light to my shack, and it comes up instantly at full light. I don't know how long it will last, it is made in China, and probably it will fail in two or three months, but I paid 8 Euro for it, so it will not be a great loss. But the bulb it replaced (an old one, that took 5 minutes to reach full luminosity) did last for three years... and it still worked, I just wanted a bit more light. BTW, I haven't noticed any increase in the RF noise, neither on VLF, nor on HF. But probably having the antennas 25 meters away from the shack, with good coax cables, helps... 73 Alberto I2PHD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me07.mx.aol.com (rly-me07.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.41]) by air-me04.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINME043-9c549c1770529a; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 18:35:15 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me07.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME071-9c549c1770529a; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 18:34:47 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lk4L5-0004qk-Hl for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 22:34:19 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lk4L5-0004qb-5c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 22:34:19 +0000 Received: from [193.252.22.190] (helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lk4L2-0001s4-NC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 22:34:19 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3604.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id ED3B47000085; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 23:34:00 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.14.71]) by mwinf3604.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 92E627000084; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 23:34:00 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20090318223400601.92E627000084@mwinf3604.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: Cc: References: <73A0D1BFA1F64CD4B5917B0EC67BF55B@ns94d01ae4d850> In-Reply-To: <73A0D1BFA1F64CD4B5917B0EC67BF55B@ns94d01ae4d850> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 22:33:59 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8064.206 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8064.206 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 4000 Miles DX QSL for G4JNT Beacon from KU4XR Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01AB_01C9A819.A1E0C1C0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_01AB_01C9A819.A1E0C1C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've just received this plot from Andy KU4XR , showing at least 5 detections= =20 at a range of 4000 miles ! To night Andy is set up to capture the psk id .... =20 http://uk500khz.googlegroups.com/web/G4JNT%203-17-09.png Quite an outstanding feat from each end of the path ! More to follow , may be ... ! G ..=20 ------=_NextPart_000_01AB_01C9A819.A1E0C1C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I've just received this plot from Andy KU4X= R ,=20 showing at least 5 detections 
at a range of 4000 miles !
 
To night Andy is set up to  = capture=20 the  psk  id ....  
 
 
Quite an outstanding feat from each end of=20= the path=20 !
 
More to  follow , may be ... !<= /DIV>
 
G ..
 
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_01AB_01C9A819.A1E0C1C0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (rly-dd02.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.149]) by air-dd07.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDD072-b6549bbb8321fc; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 09:59:22 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD027-b6549bbb8321fc; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 09:59:17 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LiUOC-0000xW-Pa for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 13:59:00 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LiUOB-0000xN-Rg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 13:58:59 +0000 Received: from [193.252.22.191] (helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LiUO9-0005uZ-3e for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 13:58:59 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3619.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 69BD57000084 for ; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 14:58:49 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.110.71.35]) by mwinf3619.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id B20F77000082 for ; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 14:58:48 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20090314135848729.B20F77000082@mwinf3619.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: References: <5467B2F044F54A7980C65F62409256D3@AGB> In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 13:58:47 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8064.206 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8064.206 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: Multi-function beacon Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_008D_01C9A4AC.FF45BB60" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_008D_01C9A4AC.FF45BB60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ok Andy , I have multi traces due to local noise/carriers floating about and coincid= ing with the measuring windows...=20 Noticed a couple of things so far , Gary and my plots show a dip in signal=20= 18:00 to 20:00 .. what happens round then ? and round 07:00 a single sha= rp dip.. ? Gerhards plot looks to show the 'pre dawn' lift that I have never see befor= e .. it was mentioned in a talk on MW dx at one of the HFC a while ago=20 Tnx, G ..=20 From: Andy Talbot=20 Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 1:36 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: Multi-function beacon That listing was 5.29MHz to prove the S/W - it shows the power and tone freq= uencies of all three - RAL/WES/ORK on the TA path. Don't forget to offset the time :-) Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/3/14 Graham Dave, >>> Sample of 5290kc. over last night.<<< Is this from 5290 or 503.7 ....... ?? Graham ..=20 From: dave.riley3=20 Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 12:08 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Cc: 600MRG=20 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Multi-function beacon Andy, beacons, Looks like the beacon program is up and running correctly as 5 mhz shows r= elative sigs and frequency counts. Last night conditions here were very poor for T/A on 600m, even with this=20= broad high pressure area that helped keep the noise down. Even DI2AM was ver= y weak and SM6BHZ did not decode. So I will run it again on you tonight, but I did see remnanats of what loo= ks like a letter K during the beacon transmission times from you ( in ARGO Q= RSS3 )... Sample of 5290kc. over last night. 2009 03 14 03 00 47.51 39.97 36.06 23.91 0.00 1495.70 1494.14 0.00 2009 03 14 03 15 34.12 37.03 31.32 23.36 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 14 03 30 33.87 30.14 35.05 29.91 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 14 03 45 30.91 26.89 26.38 23.12 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 14 04 00 32.25 44.39 25.68 24.24 0.00 0.00 1494.14 0.00 2009 03 14 04 15 40.13 39.54 35.79 24.24 0.00 1495.51 1494.14 0.00 2009 03 14 04 30 44.71 42.47 29.35 30.72 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 14 04 45 33.16 37.11 35.32 23.03 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 14 05 00 48.07 46.44 34.46 25.30 0.00 1495.90 1494.14 0.00 2009 03 14 05 15 43.12 47.39 30.40 23.83 0.00 1495.70 1494.14 0.00 2009 03 14 05 30 48.13 31.83 37.48 26.50 0.00 1495.70 0.00 0.00 2009 03 14 05 45 47.11 42.90 37.04 22.88 0.00 1495.90 1494.34 0.00 2009 03 14 06 00 28.69 30.99 30.46 23.66 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 14 06 15 41.04 31.09 29.58 23.29 0.00 1495.90 0.00 0.00 The 'red' station usually seems the strongest on the graph... TNX Dave @ /17 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Andy Talbot=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org ; uk_beacons@yahoogroups.com=20 Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 5:57 AM Subject: LF: Re: Multi-function beacon Just a reminder to all - this beacon is still going, and will probably c= ontinue to do so until further notice. A few listeners have downloaded the= software, and thanks to all (you know who your are :-) for the plots / list= ings. I am not in a position to compile them, so don't expect revelations,= but Gerhard / DK6NI has been monitoring pretty well continuously, and has= plotted some deep fades / enhancements measured over hours with depths in t= he regions of 30dB. Are there any stations in the US in a position to monitor ? =20 Please note that if using the recommended 5meg beacon monitoring softwar= e you'll either have to set the delta time to -240 (or -180 or -120) seconds= or adjust the PC clock by two, three or four minutes to cope with the four=20= minute offset I'm running it on. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com =20 2009/3/6 Andy Talbot I've now started transmitting a timed beacon signal on 503.7kHz that=20= is identical in format to that of GB3SSS operated over the winter months of=20= the last two years from Poldhu on 1.9 and 3.5MHz, and has a similar signal= structure to the 5MHz beacons, GB3RAL, WES and ORK. These all have an init= ial CW ident and stepped power levels for aural reception, and a precisely d= efined period of full-power plain carrier for S/N measurements. =20 See http://www.rsgb-spectrumforum.org.uk/5mhz%20beacons.htm for the= complete 5MHz signal structure. For this MF transmission, as on GB3SSS, t= he pulsed sounder sequence of the 5MHz beacons is replaced with a PSK31 mess= age which lasts from 30s to approx 48 seconds after the start Auto Monitoring software writen by G3PLX is available for monitoring t= hese beacons, it measures signal to noise during the carrier period and save= s to file as well as plotting the last 40 hours worth of measurements. The software can be downloaded from http://www.rsgb.org/spectrumforum= /hf/beaconauto.php . PSK31 data can be copied with Digipan, Fldigi, PSK31S= BW or a host of other packages. TIMING=20 The 503.7kHz transmission takes place every 15 minutes at 4 minutes pa= st the quarter hour. =20 ie each transmission starts at xx:04, xx:19, xx:34 and xx:49 This t= ime slot has been selected so that the transmission do not interfere with my= continuous ongoing reception of the 5Mhz beacons - the active antenna used=20= for these is overloaded by the 500kHz signal and I have already lost data wh= en the WSPR beacon transmission coincided with one of the monitoring windows= . NOTE If using the G3PLX software, this only monitors for the three 5= MHz beacons at 00, 01 and 02 minutes. SO IT WILL BE NECESSARY TO FRIG THE SOFTWARE to monitor this transmis= sion at the 04 minute point. The necessary alteration can be done by first= ly setting your PC clock accurately to the correct time, then setting the Tr= ack Time box to -240 (minus 240 seconds). This will make the software look=20= for this transmission during the time window it thinks it would be receiving= GB3RAL, and log the MF transmission during the first minute, on the red tra= ce, as if it were GB3RAL=20 The beacon uses the identical hardware to the WSPR transmissions of th= e last few weeks, with the the only change being a reprogramming of the cont= roller PIC. In fact the very same hardware was previously loaned to the Po= ldhu club for their beacons, with the only difference being a change to the=20= final Low Pass filter on the output of the broadband PA. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.13/2001 - Release Date: 03/13/09= 05:59:00 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- No virus found in this incoming message. 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Ok Andy ,
 
I have multi traces due to  local=20 noise/carriers floating about and  coinciding with the measuring window= s...=20
 
Noticed a couple of things so  far , G= ary and=20 my plots show a dip in signal 18:00  to  20:00 .. what happen= s=20 round then ?  and round  07:00 a single sharp dip.. ?
 
Gerhards plot looks to  show the 'pre=20= dawn'=20 lift that I have never see before .. it was mentioned in a talk on MW dx at=20= one=20 of the HFC a while ago
 
Tnx, G ..
 
 

Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 1:36 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: Multi-function beacon

That listing was 5.29MHz to prove the S/W - it shows the power and tone= =20 frequencies of all three - RAL/WES/ORK on the TA path.
 
Don't forget to offset the time :-)

Andy  G4JNT
= www.g4jnt.com


2009/3/14 Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
Dave, >>> Sample of 5290kc. over last=20 night.<<<
 
Is this  from 5290  or  503.7 .= ......=20 ??
 
Graham ..
 
 

Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 12:08 PM
Cc: 600MRG
Subject: LF: Re: Re: Multi-function beacon

Andy, beacons,
 
Looks like the beacon program is up and runnin= g=20 correctly as 5 mhz shows relative sigs and frequency=20 counts.
 
Last night conditions here were very poor for=20= T/A on=20 600m, even with this broad high pressure area that helped keep the noise d= own.=20 Even DI2AM was very weak and SM6BHZ did not decode.
 
So I will run it again on you tonight, but I d= id see=20 remnanats of what looks like a letter K during the beacon transmission tim= es=20 from you ( in ARGO QRSS3 )...
 
 
Sample of 5290kc. over last=20 night.
 
2009 03 14 03 00 47.51 39.97 36.06 23.91 0.00=20 1495.70 1494.14 0.00
2009 03 14 03 15 34.12 37.03 31.32 23.36 0.00 0.00= =20 0.00 0.00
2009 03 14 03 30 33.87 30.14 35.05 29.91 0.00 0.00 0.00=20 0.00
2009 03 14 03 45 30.91 26.89 26.38 23.12 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
20= 09=20 03 14 04 00 32.25 44.39 25.68 24.24 0.00 0.00 1494.14 0.00
2009 03 14 0= 4 15=20 40.13 39.54 35.79 24.24 0.00 1495.51 1494.14 0.00
2009 03 14 04 30 44.7= 1=20 42.47 29.35 30.72 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
2009 03 14 04 45 33.16 37.11 35.3= 2=20 23.03 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
2009 03 14 05 00 48.07 46.44 34.46 25.30 0.00= =20 1495.90 1494.14 0.00
2009 03 14 05 15 43.12 47.39 30.40 23.83 0.00 1495= .70=20 1494.14 0.00
2009 03 14 05 30 48.13 31.83 37.48 26.50 0.00 1495.70 0.00= =20 0.00
2009 03 14 05 45 47.11 42.90 37.04 22.88 0.00 1495.90 1494.34=20 0.00
2009 03 14 06 00 28.69 30.99 30.46 23.66 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
20= 09=20 03 14 06 15 41.04 31.09 29.58 23.29 0.00 1495.90 0.00=20 0.00
 
The 'red' station usually seems the strongest=20= on the=20 graph...
 
TNX
 
Dave @ /17
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 5:57= =20 AM
Subject: LF: Re: Multi-function=20 beacon

Just a reminder to all - this beacon is still going, and will proba= bly=20 continue to do so until further notice.   A few listeners have= =20 downloaded the software, and thanks to all (you know who your are :-) fo= r=20 the plots / listings.   I am not in a position to compile them= , so=20 don't expect revelations, but Gerhard  /  DK6NI has been=20 monitoring pretty well continuously, and has plotted some deep= =20 fades / enhancements measured over hours with depths in the regions of=20 30dB.
 
Are there any stations in the US in a position to monitor=20 ?  
 
Please note that if using the recommended 5meg beacon monitoring=20 software you'll either have to set the delta time to -240 (or -180 or -1= 20)=20 seconds or adjust the PC clock by two, three or four minutes to cope wit= h=20 the four minute offset I'm running it on.
 
Andy  G4JNT

 
2009/3/6 Andy Talbot <andy.g4jn= t@googlemail.com>
I've now started transmitting a timed  beacon signal on= =20 503.7kHz that is identical in format to that of GB3SSS operated o= ver=20 the winter months of the last two years  from Poldhu on 1.9=20= and=20 3.5MHz,  and has a similar signal structure to the 5MHz beac= ons,=20 GB3RAL, WES and ORK.  These all have an initial CW ident=20 and stepped power levels for aural reception, and a precisel= y=20 defined period of full-power plain carrier for S/N=20 measurements.  
See   http://www.rsgb-spectrumf= orum.org.uk/5mhz%20beacons.htm =20 for the complete 5MHz  signal structure.  For this MF=20 transmission, as on GB3SSS, the pulsed sounder sequence of the 5MHz=20 beacons is replaced with a PSK31 message which lasts from 30s to=20 approx 48 seconds after the start
 
Auto Monitoring software writen by G3PLX is available for monitor= ing=20 these beacons, it measures signal to noise during the carrier period a= nd=20 saves to file as well as plotting the last 40 hours worth of=20 measurements.
The software can be downloaded from  htt= p://www.rsgb.org/spectrumforum/hf/beaconauto.php .  =20 PSK31 data can be copied with Digipan, Fldigi, PSK31SBW or a host of o= ther=20 packages.
 
TIMING
The 503.7kHz transmission takes place every 15 minutes at 4 minut= es=20 past the quarter hour. 
ie each transmission starts at xx:04, xx:19, xx:34 a= nd=20 xx:49    This time slot has been selected= so=20 that the transmission do not interfere with my continuous ongoing=20 reception of the 5Mhz beacons - the active antenna used for these is=20 overloaded by the 500kHz signal and I have already lost data when the=20= WSPR=20 beacon transmission coincided with one of the monitoring windows.
 
NOTE   If using the G3PLX software, this=20 only monitors for the three 5MHz beacons at  00, 01 and 02=20 minutes.
SO IT WILL BE NECESSARY TO FRIG THE SOFTWARE=20  to monitor this transmission at the 04 minute=20 point.   The necessary alteration can be done by firstl= y=20 setting your PC clock accurately to the correct time, then settin= g=20 the Track Time box to -240 (minus 240 seconds).  This will make t= he=20 software look for this transmission during the time window it thi= nks=20 it would be receiving GB3RAL, and log the MF transmission during=20= the=20 first minute, on the red trace, as if it were GB3RAL 
 
The beacon uses the identical hardware to the WSPR transmiss= ions=20 of the last few weeks, with the the only change being=20 a reprogramming of the controller PIC.   In fact the ve= ry=20 same hardware was previously loaned to the Poldhu club for their beaco= ns,=20 with the only difference being a change to the final Low Pass filter o= n=20 the output of the broadband PA.
 


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------=_NextPart_000_008D_01C9A4AC.FF45BB60-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md03.mx.aol.com (rly-md03.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.141]) by air-md05.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD054-8f549c8035e244; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 17:47:29 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md03.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD035-8f549c8035e244; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 17:47:12 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Llryf-0002dE-2z for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 21:46:37 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Llrye-0002d5-N4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 21:46:36 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-2-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.53]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Llryb-0005lI-VV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 21:46:36 +0000 X-Trace: 171317607/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.59.96/None/g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.59.96 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Microsoft Office Outlook 11Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AoUHAAOUx0lYajtg/2dsb2JhbACCKCtUhgB9g2jEDgeDdwY X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,410,1233532800"; d="scan'208,217";a="171317607" Received: from 88-106-59-96.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.59.96]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 23 Mar 2009 21:46:31 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF -RSGB LF Group" Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 21:46:31 -0000 Message-ID: <004901c9ac00$d46ed2e0$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AcmsANPWJNo+6IQDSbiXeCSfbce0rA== X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 500KHz grabbers Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_004A_01C9AC00.D46ED2E0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_004A_01C9AC00.D46ED2E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit LF, Sorry if the grabbers look in a poor state, the wind gusts have damaged the top-load capacity hat & it is now lashing around & upsetting the grabbers. So, until I have the time to effect a repair it may not produce very pleasant results. Of course the grabbers are not using the vertical antenna but the close proximity of that antenna to the Mini-Whip will cause Rx problems. 73, Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. ------=_NextPart_000_004A_01C9AC00.D46ED2E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

LF,

 =

Sorry if the grabbers look in a= poor state, the wind gusts have damaged the top-load capacity hat & it is now lashin= g around & upsetting the grabbers.

 =

So, until I have the time to ef= fect a repair it may not produce very pleasant results.

 =

Of course the grabbers are not=20= using the vertical antenna but the close proximity of that antenna to the Mini-Whip wi= ll cause Rx problems.

 =

73,

 

Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.=

 

------=_NextPart_000_004A_01C9AC00.D46ED2E0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de03.mx.aol.com (rly-de03.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.139]) by air-de05.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDE053-4c149c0031548; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 16:08:16 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de03.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE032-4c149c0031548; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 16:07:51 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LjfZa-0006P2-41 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 20:07:38 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LjfZZ-0006Ot-Hj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 20:07:37 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-4-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.55]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LjfZW-0002R0-To for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 20:07:37 +0000 X-Trace: 165098479/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.59.96/None/g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.59.96 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Microsoft Office Outlook 11Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgsFAIefv0lYajtg/2dsb2JhbACCJitURIY3g1/GIweDdQY X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,381,1233532800"; d="gif'147?scan'147,208,217,147";a="165098479" Received: from 88-106-59-96.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.59.96]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 17 Mar 2009 20:06:30 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 20:06:30 -0000 Message-ID: <005501c9a73b$dd0b8ac0$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AcmnOpEJsk697SvhSdKQJ2Qt/VpvRAAAMMlw X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: RE: Who's playing on 503.7 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0056_01C9A73B.DD0DD4B0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0056_01C9A73B.DD0DD4B0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0057_01C9A73B.DD0DD4B0" ------=_NextPart_001_0057_01C9A73B.DD0DD4B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Andy, LF, I have not detected anything here other than your Tx. I was going to e-mail anyway because I have some false decodes on the 5 & 6 minute slots, see list below. These coincide with high bursts of noise which I experience here from time to time. Is there an issue with the decode software being "foxed" by high noise level? Gary - G4WGT. 15:45 40.35 25.76 -240.0 0.0 15:46 41.05 25.76 -240.0 1499.5 15:47 39.52 25.76 -240.0 0.0 16:00 41.70 25.75 -240.0 1499.5 16:01 41.62 25.75 -240.0 1510.6 16:02 31.49 25.75 -240.0 0.0 16:15 40.10 25.47 -240.0 0.0 16:16 30.16 25.47 -240.0 0.0 16:17 29.17 25.47 -240.0 0.0 16:30 37.85 28.93 -240.0 0.0 16:31 41.80 28.93 -240.0 0.0 16:32 36.23 28.93 -240.0 0.0 16:45 40.98 25.80 -240.0 1499.6 16:46 29.45 25.80 -240.0 0.0 16:47 30.17 25.80 -240.0 0.0 17:00 35.23 25.58 -240.0 0.0 17:01 28.35 25.58 -240.0 0.0 17:02 35.28 25.58 -240.0 0.0 17:15 45.32 25.10 -240.0 1499.4 17:16 30.14 25.10 -240.0 0.0 17:17 27.57 25.10 -240.0 0.0 17:30 51.09 25.30 -240.0 1499.5 17:31 53.16 25.30 -240.0 1499.6 17:32 30.18 25.30 -240.0 0.0 17:45 47.93 25.21 -240.0 1499.5 17:46 48.63 25.21 -240.0 1499.5 17:47 49.12 25.21 -240.0 1499.5 18:00 38.75 34.29 -240.0 0.0 18:01 32.01 34.29 -240.0 0.0 18:02 28.89 34.29 -240.0 0.0 18:15 51.36 26.01 -240.0 1499.6 18:16 38.85 26.01 -240.0 0.0 18:17 40.74 26.01 -240.0 0.0 18:30 43.06 24.96 -240.0 1499.5 18:31 29.24 24.96 -240.0 0.0 18:32 29.61 24.96 -240.0 0.0 18:45 36.98 26.26 -240.0 0.0 18:46 34.87 26.26 -240.0 0.0 18:47 36.14 26.26 -240.0 0.0 19:00 50.09 26.57 -240.0 1499.7 19:01 42.04 26.57 -240.0 1518.0 19:02 28.58 26.57 -240.0 0.0 _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Andy Talbot Sent: 17 March 2009 19:48 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Who's playing on 503.7 OK, Who is it? We can see you There's activity in the 5 and 6 minutes slots. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com ------=_NextPart_001_0057_01C9A73B.DD0DD4B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Andy, LF,

&nb= sp;

I have not detected anything here other than your Tx.<= /p>

&nb= sp;

I was going to e-mail anyway because I have some false decodes on the 5 & 6 minute slots, see list below. These coincide with high bursts of noise which= I experience here from time to time. Is there an issue with the decode softwar= e being “foxed” by high noise level?<= /p>

&nb= sp;

Gary = 211; G4WGT.

&nb= sp;

15:45&nb= sp; 40.35  25.76  -240.0  0.0

15:46&nb= sp; 41.05  25.76  -240.0  1499.5

15:47&nb= sp; 39.52  25.76  -240.0  0.0

16:00&nb= sp; 41.70  25.75  -240.0  1499.5

16:01&nb= sp; 41.62  25.75  -240.0  1510.6

16:02&nb= sp; 31.49  25.75  -240.0  0.0

16:15&nb= sp; 40.10  25.47  -240.0  0.0

16:16&nb= sp; 30.16  25.47  -240.0  0.0

16:17&nb= sp; 29.17  25.47  -240.0  0.0

16:30&nb= sp; 37.85  28.93  -240.0  0.0

16:31&nb= sp; 41.80  28.93  -240.0  0.0

16:32&nb= sp; 36.23  28.93  -240.0  0.0

16:45&nb= sp; 40.98  25.80  -240.0  1499.6

16:46&nb= sp; 29.45  25.80  -240.0  0.0

16:47&nb= sp; 30.17  25.80  -240.0  0.0

17:00&nb= sp; 35.23  25.58  -240.0  0.0

17:01&nb= sp; 28.35  25.58  -240.0  0.0

17:02&nb= sp; 35.28  25.58  -240.0  0.0

17:15&nb= sp; 45.32  25.10  -240.0  1499.4

17:16&nb= sp; 30.14  25.10  -240.0  0.0

17:17&nb= sp; 27.57  25.10  -240.0  0.0

17:30&nb= sp; 51.09  25.30  -240.0  1499.5

17:31&nb= sp; 53.16  25.30  -240.0  1499.6

17:32&nb= sp; 30.18  25.30  -240.0  0.0

17:45&nb= sp; 47.93  25.21  -240.0  1499.5

17:46&nb= sp; 48.63  25.21  -240.0  1499.5

17:47&nb= sp; 49.12  25.21  -240.0  1499.5

18:00&nb= sp; 38.75  34.29  -240.0  0.0

18:01&nb= sp; 32.01  34.29  -240.0  0.0

18:02&nb= sp; 28.89  34.29  -240.0  0.0

18:15&nb= sp; 51.36  26.01  -240.0  1499.6

18:16&nb= sp; 38.85  26.01  -240.0  0.0

18:17&nb= sp; 40.74  26.01  -240.0  0.0

18:30&nb= sp; 43.06  24.96  -240.0  1499.5

18:31&nb= sp; 29.24  24.96  -240.0  0.0

18:32&nb= sp; 29.61  24.96  -240.0  0.0

18:45&nb= sp; 36.98  26.26  -240.0  0.0

18:46&nb= sp; 34.87  26.26  -240.0  0.0

18:47&nb= sp; 36.14  26.26  -240.0  0.0

19:00&nb= sp; 50.09  26.57  -240.0  1499.7

19:01&nb= sp; 42.04  26.57  -240.0  1518.0

19:02&nb= sp; 28.58  26.57  -240.0  0.0

&nb= sp;

&nb= sp;

&nb= sp;

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Andy Talbot
Sent: 17 March 2009 19:48
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: Who's playing on 503.7

 

OK, Who is it?

We can see you

There's activity in the 5 and 6 minutes slots.<= /o:p>

 

 


Andy  G4JNT
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Marco, have a look here: http://www.radiocom.net/txvr.jpg I haven't tried it myself but it looks simple enough to give it a try. 73 Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO (currently on 440.015 kHz, tnx for the reception reports) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scholz, Marco " To: Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 9:55 PM Subject: LF: Looking for HF to LF-Transverter, ... ? Dear LF-Group, sorry for bandwidth, i looking for some sort of of mixer/transverter to use a shortwave transceiver on 137KHz for WSPR. Can be in experimental stage, but i need something to start. To build something from scratch is a bit a challenge for me, so i thought i ask around. Maybe someone has to sell some parts? If yes, please send me a mail to dd7pc@gmx.de Many thanks, vy73 Marco DD7PC From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da08.mx.aol.com (rly-da08.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.82]) by air-da10.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA104-a8849cbf09c2a3; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 17:16:16 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da08.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA088-a8849cbf09c2a3; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 17:16:15 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lmwuy-0004FN-E0 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 21:15:16 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lmwuy-0004FE-0R for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 21:15:16 +0000 Received: from cmsout01.mbox.net ([165.212.64.31]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lmwut-0002P4-Rj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 21:15:15 +0000 Received: from cmsout01.mbox.net (cmsout01-lo [127.0.0.1]) by cmsout01.mbox.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF4542AC6A9 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 21:15:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cmsapps03.cms.usa.net [165.212.11.132] by cmsout01.mbox.net via smtad (C8.MAIN.3.52G) with ESMTP id XID690NcZVPB3027X01; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 21:15:01 -0000 X-USANET-Source: 165.212.11.132 IN dibene@usa.net cmsapps03.cms.usa.net X-USANET-MsgId: XID690NcZVPB3027X01 Received: from [127.0.0.1] [151.47.217.227] by cmsapps03.cms.usa.net (ESMTPA/dibene@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.48O) with ESMTPA id 374NcZVPa8272M39; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 21:15:00 -0000 X-USANET-Auth: 151.47.217.227 AUTH dibene@usa.net [127.0.0.1] Message-ID: <49CBF051.9090707@usa.net> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 22:14:57 +0100 From: Alberto di Bene User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090216-1, 02/16/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Z-USANET-MsgId: XID374NcZVPa8272X39 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Lazy Man's CW made it to Venus and back Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Wolf, congratulations, especially for the ad-hoc version of your software. And I am sure that, after some past comments, you will now have more clear the meaning of the English saying of "throwing pearls to the porks".... 73 Alberto I2PHD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (rly-dd01.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.148]) by air-dd07.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDD072-b5b49afd2f3315; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 08:26:21 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD015-b5b49afd2f3315; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 08:26:14 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LfDaQ-0003Ns-Sq for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 13:26:06 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LfDaQ-0003Nj-Ge for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 13:26:06 +0000 Received: from qw-out-1920.google.com ([74.125.92.148]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LfDaP-0007Et-OK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 13:26:06 +0000 Received: by qw-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 4so3315763qwk.16 for ; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 05:26:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=jyBa1l2EWq8qb5leZPVWr1dWQ4wR2ZkeyknQ1Qgrk58=; b=sasEBxRQqSfyXSvaYeNyqa5KPnKuvYl72k572dC8WU76qrWKIT5gnHRoy0tJlRCHEN JVIYHM2EkIMrvO/AUx96DGS5rx63h6WKAaCUo1bjto0jC3baeDoeeAkPptU9SEk0WBAo i36Isw8IJsZTpNmyvLXL5dsafaQwSaSFba6gs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=UZHPPLigodJPf1t8zrG0QE6KwCLnRMUBm91M+B/LODI+v98Gz6y10CWMWGGkMGTNtg lSi4rX4IBTclRMCDk2znKF7JC1yu21lHEE1Y3BRj5nZUBdBDHZ1VeLlOfhE+KmTnPJBp wVQ5BH3OBkPzDijTwX1FXtdCL+i1S5cIvwS8Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.36.202 with SMTP id u10mr1805965qad.122.1236259564607; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 05:26:04 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 08:26:04 -0500 Message-ID: <57a24ca70903050526p3f5a238fp712c8488e0ea6160@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: Re: LF: xgj Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR, UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m262.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Victor, Thanks for the excellent capture! XGJ will be QRT for tonight. -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 12:36 AM, wrote: > Hi Warren,lf > > good copy of XGJ at 5:00z > > 73 > > Victor -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me03.mx.aol.com (rly-me03.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.36]) by air-me09.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME094-9ac49cfce7b15f; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 15:39:49 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me03.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME038-9ac49cfce7b15f; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 15:39:40 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lo0qI-000528-J0 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 20:38:50 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lo0qI-00051z-3V for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 20:38:50 +0100 Received: from mailout01.t-online.de ([194.25.134.80]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lo0qG-0003BN-A9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 20:38:50 +0100 Received: from fwd04.aul.t-online.de by mailout01.t-online.de with smtp id 1Lo0pG-0004RK-04; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 21:37:46 +0200 Received: from e7010 (ZBnFIcZcrhCvtxg3A6mCHIJbqLu+5yP6j1soHmyEQnicizrx1ge2o8yV3YYb-nxZ6g@[84.147.199.15]) by fwd04.aul.t-online.de with smtp id 1Lo0pB-0ELqGO0; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 21:37:41 +0200 Message-ID: <000a01c9b0a5$d30173f0$1402a8c0@e7010> From: "Walter und Marianne Staubach" To: Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 21:37:40 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4927.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 X-ID: ZBnFIcZcrhCvtxg3A6mCHIJbqLu+5yP6j1soHmyEQnicizrx1ge2o8yV3YYb-nxZ6g X-TOI-MSGID: ed1df50e-4c91-4d3a-9322-0235fc8e794c X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: DI2AG more power Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C9B0B6.96504830" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C9B0B6.96504830 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear All on MF, pse excuse - I forgot to set the new power since 17:00 UTC. 33dBm=20= instead of 27dBm. Is now correct. 73 Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C9B0B6.96504830 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear All on MF,
       =    pse excuse - I=20 forgot to set the new power since 17:00 UTC. 33dBm instead of 27dBm. Is now=20 correct.
73  Walter   DI2AG /=20 DJ2LF
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C9B0B6.96504830-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc06.mx.aol.com (rly-dc06.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.35]) by air-dc08.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDC084-b2a49aac6831a7; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 12:31:54 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc06.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC066-b2a49aac6831a7; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 12:31:49 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LdpVl-0005mc-Ra for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 17:31:33 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LdpVl-0005mT-F4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 17:31:33 +0000 Received: from mail-fx0-f174.google.com ([209.85.220.174]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LdpVk-0003Zw-Kj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 17:31:33 +0000 Received: by fxm22 with SMTP id 22so1994083fxm.4 for ; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 09:31:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=67Zf8T1v4i8ATq1obwtfB+bZXa8iylHhaMA375mEaE4=; b=gXUW+bK8HZ/YUo18T6iC1Z53nTopNXINi3kBUMxblfbYkY77EO7fYnG9ajidcFWezH MC2lTtrXoXuiyIRm3LzjZrXYSJbKXD+OPSI2gb3OPAo+7BSng7iO2zMdJ/7O9jdfVKgb vczS8Lsau8DMvrHBzGfipNgI1l+UQE1zo4z8Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=FhWgYEzRTiS0Dwe2wR+2S960W4eTgj9bBHfczaKWFNBPkwY6iHRjppVslHVvQConmU tt/i9Xilmk7E7HGeFHJfIfnJXeB+EUwvrcB0lF+0Yv9CoIxASxe7iTiZk2tVH7Tin4At MAaU1JeC9s6oMEAxrW8q4LNX5ZeV5SHFHKYOk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.108.15 with SMTP id d15mr5172774fap.105.1235928686557; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 09:31:26 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <000a01c99a91$a54a1180$1402a8c0@e7010> References: <000a01c99a91$a54a1180$1402a8c0@e7010> Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 17:31:26 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WSPR on 600m Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m219.2 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) G4JNT will NOT be WSPRing tonight. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/3/1 Walter und Marianne Staubach : > Dear All on MF, > =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 DI2AG will transmit WSPR tonight. Beginning 18UTC, e= nding 7UTC. > Dial frequency 503.6KHz, beacon on 505.090KHz. Power 1W ERP. Reports > welcome. Please report on WSPRnet.org or this reflector. > > 73=A0 Walter=A0 DI2AG / DJ2LF > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me07.mx.aol.com (rly-me07.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.41]) by air-me09.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINME093-9c649c011b0143; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 17:10:13 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me07.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME072-9c649c011b0143; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 17:10:11 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LjgXl-0006zQ-I1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 21:09:49 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LjgXl-0006zH-50 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 21:09:49 +0000 Received: from smtp3-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.3]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LjgXj-0002mO-9H for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 21:09:49 +0000 Received: from smtp3-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp3-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98DC2818049 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 22:09:44 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp3-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 748F4818193 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 22:09:41 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <49C01194.2010305@online.fr> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 22:09:40 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: [137kHz] Test de f1afj qrss60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello LF I am in test on 137775 qrss60, 300 W until 22:00z Your reports will be welcome 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh08.mx.aol.com (rly-mh08.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.144]) by air-mh01.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMH012-bef49c15f5af5; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 16:54:18 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh08.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH087-bef49c15f5af5; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 16:53:47 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lk2lj-0002tG-SO for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 20:53:43 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lk2lj-0002t7-H4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 20:53:43 +0000 Received: from psmtp31.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.33]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lk2lh-0001Fa-HJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 20:53:43 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp31.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KGP00AHHZDB30@psmtp31.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:53:35 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:53:35 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <73A0D1BFA1F64CD4B5917B0EC67BF55B@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: DD7PCc 18-03.jpg Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_5tNdGVYRKaGC3l5MZhtkPg)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; 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b=WZo5jdwF3keq0SjoOIcgdEaF8ali4fqB02KMvAofFGFdq0cPyBgzTt6vPID1l6HCuh pipo/ohVLIEEfGUwN5JN0JMgGgCKCqnf4o5b5sTvo4blbRnkkIpzrJQmp36gyioLFVLK vx2p0XkOlNOMjY7L1I5YdYiRZmMR/eiADIur8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.3.70 with SMTP id 48mr812928weg.74.1238161654649; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 06:47:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 13:47:34 +0000 Message-ID: <8bf118410903270647t5ebb0cedi82b96e2ea73075bd@mail.gmail.com> From: Dave Pick To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Lazy Man's CW made it to Venus and back Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e64c1e8e9993e1046619f923 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m279.2 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --0016e64c1e8e9993e1046619f923 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit How many miles per Watt is that?!! Dave 'YXM 2009/3/26 > Greetings everyone, > > Not really LF, but QRSS... > > A group of radio amateurs from AMSAT-DL has successfully transmitted a > (very short) message in QRSS, consisting of the two letters "HI" (im > memoriam of old OSCARS) to Venus on 2.4 GHz, and received the reflection. > Each TX/RX over lasted for about 5 minutes (the travelling time). The > transmitter was a 5 kW magnetron disciplined to a narrow-band transmitter. > Details on the AMSAT-DL website. The German HR TV will send a documentation > tonight at 19:30 (local). The EVE (Earth-Venus-Earth) details follow > tomorrow on Hessischer Rundfunk. > > 73, > Wolf DL4YHF > (from the IUZ in Bochum) > > > > > > #adBox3 {display:none;} > > > -- G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK --0016e64c1e8e9993e1046619f923 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable How many miles per Watt is that?!!

Dave 'YXM

2009/3/26 <dl4yhf@freenet.de>
Greetings everyone,

Not really LF, but QRSS...

A group of radio amateurs from AMSAT-DL has successfully transmitted a (very= short) message in QRSS, consisting of the two letters "HI" (im me= moriam of old OSCARS) to Venus on 2.4 GHz, and received the reflection.
Each TX/RX over lasted for about 5 minutes (the travelling time). The transm= itter was a 5 kW magnetron disciplined to a narrow-band transmitter. Details= on the AMSAT-DL website. The German HR TV will send a documentation tonight= at 19:30 (local). The EVE (Earth-Venus-Earth) details follow tomorrow on He= ssischer Rundfunk.

73,
=A0Wolf DL4YHF
=A0(from the IUZ in Bochum)





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--0016e64c1e8e9993e1046619f923-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh06.mx.aol.com (rly-mh06.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.142]) by air-mh01.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMH011-bdf49c1f094225; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 03:13:47 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh06.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH067-bdf49c1f094225; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 03:13:27 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LkCQj-0001Hk-2t for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 07:12:41 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LkCQi-0001Hb-Ms for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 07:12:40 +0000 Received: from mail7.ssmb.com ([199.67.204.181] helo=mail.citigroup.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LkCQg-0004Yd-Nv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 07:12:40 +0000 Received: from imbarc-eu02.eur.nsroot.net (imbarc-eu02 [169.186.216.28]) by imbaspam-eu03.eur.nsroot.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/SSMB_EXT/ev: 22534 $) with ESMTP id n2J7CUAO024752 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 07:12:31 GMT Received: from mailhub-dc1.eu.ssmb.com (mailhub-dc1.eu.ssmb.com [169.186.145.234]) by imbarc-eu02.eur.nsroot.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/SSMB_QQQ_IN/1.1) with ESMTP id n2J7CQBQ025559 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 07:12:26 GMT Received: from exuksm06.eur.nsroot.net (Exuksm06.eur.nsroot.net [169.183.26.36]) by mailhub-dc1.eu.ssmb.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/CG_HUB) with ESMTP id n2J7CMrI000925 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 07:12:22 GMT Received: from exukmb49.eur.nsroot.net ([169.183.32.64]) by exuksm06.eur.nsroot.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Thu, 19 Mar 2009 07:12:21 +0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6619.12 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 07:12:21 -0000 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: PC,AFJ,DTL Thread-Index: AcmoU8aRanDcrA7CT1KhIeqYOu8jTgADik5A From: "Scholz, Marco " To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Mar 2009 07:12:21.0734 (UTC) FILETIME=[0BF07860:01C9A862] X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 169.186.160.42 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 1.4 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: LF: RE: PC,AFJ,DTL X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR, SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Good morning Victor, Thanks for report and capture of my signal. vy73 Marco DD7PC, JN49ax=20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of victor13@online.nl Sent: 19 March 2009 06:25 To: blacksheep Subject: LF: PC,AFJ,DTL Hi,Marco,Jean-Pierre,Nicolas, good signals in a QRSS60 screen, 73 Victor PA3FNY JO22NC From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd06.mx.aol.com (rly-dd06.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.153]) by air-dd02.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD023-b8549c8aa09213; 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From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh11.mx.aol.com (rly-mh11.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.147]) by air-mh03.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMH033-61449c01d4b3bc; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 18:00:04 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh11.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH111-61449c01d4b3bc; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 17:59:42 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LjhJn-0007nB-8U for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 21:59:27 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LjhJm-0007n2-F9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 21:59:26 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-2-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.53]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LjhJg-00036d-Fy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 21:59:26 +0000 X-Trace: 168623406/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.59.96/None/g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.59.96 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Microsoft Office Outlook 11Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArAHAIu5v0lYajtg/2dsb2JhbACCJitURIU6fYNfxXQHg3UG X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,381,1233532800"; d="gif'147?scan'147,208,217,147";a="168623406" Received: from 88-106-59-96.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.59.96]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 17 Mar 2009 21:59:17 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <005501c9a73b$dd0b8ac0$6401a8c0@asus> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 21:59:16 -0000 Message-ID: <007901c9a74b$9e595450$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AcmnQGpNLR16XYh4TuCtDgP6Dpa1XwAB4GUQ X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: RE: LF: RE: Who's playing on 503.7 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_007A_01C9A74B.9E595450" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_007A_01C9A74B.9E595450 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_007B_01C9A74B.9E595450" ------=_NextPart_001_007B_01C9A74B.9E595450 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Andy, >>>> Did the messages about the modified beacon timing software get though this reflector - don't appear to see them in the in box? I received the original & the correction to the url. OK, I used "decode" as the first word that came out of my head. I have looked at the black trace on my beacon chart & it doesn't seem to coincide with the peaks on the blue & green trace, there is a black peak but slightly offset. On my grabber saves there is very high noise level for a couple of minutes some times the blue & green has a peak which shows on the text log as well. But I have also seen very short carriers which I thought at first were part of you normal beacon signal & when looking carefully at the timestamp were at the following times - 1735, 1750 & 1751. At these times there was no burst of noise. Cheers, Gary - G4WGT. _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Andy Talbot Sent: 17 March 2009 20:36 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: RE: Who's playing on 503.7 continued ... The black trace gives it away. If there is extended QRM that spans the noise measurement period (which is the WHOLE minute before) and the 5s Tx period it will show up on both. The different system of noise measurement explains why the (no QRMed) green and blue traces are not sitting on top of teh black trace. Ideally, with no signal there, they should. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/3/17 Andy Talbot I filled in a couple at 1800, deliberately, by flicking the test switch on my beacon Tx. But there are too many peaks on the green annd blue traces to not suspect someone else is firing up a Tx. Its not a case of false decodes - there's not such thing as a 'decode' with this monitoring S/W. All it does is to measure the signal power over precisely this time slot, using a synchronised FFT with a bin size of 0.2Hz, which after windowing gives about 0.4Hz noise bandwidth. So any QRM would have to be quite strong to make a significant impact, and persist over 5 seconds. Short spikes get averaged out to not-a-lot. Did the messages about the modified beacon timing software get though this reflector - don't appear to see them in the in box? If not, http://www.g4jnt.com/beacons.htm at the bottom look for PCBCN Directly, http://www.g4jnt.com/PCBCN.zip Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/3/17 Gary - G4WGT Hi Andy, LF, I have not detected anything here other than your Tx. I was going to e-mail anyway because I have some false decodes on the 5 & 6 minute slots, see list below. These coincide with high bursts of noise which I experience here from time to time. Is there an issue with the decode software being "foxed" by high noise level? Gary - G4WGT. 15:45 40.35 25.76 -240.0 0.0 15:46 41.05 25.76 -240.0 1499.5 15:47 39.52 25.76 -240.0 0.0 16:00 41.70 25.75 -240.0 1499.5 16:01 41.62 25.75 -240.0 1510.6 16:02 31.49 25.75 -240.0 0.0 16:15 40.10 25.47 -240.0 0.0 16:16 30.16 25.47 -240.0 0.0 16:17 29.17 25.47 -240.0 0.0 16:30 37.85 28.93 -240.0 0.0 16:31 41.80 28.93 -240.0 0.0 16:32 36.23 28.93 -240.0 0.0 16:45 40.98 25.80 -240.0 1499.6 16:46 29.45 25.80 -240.0 0.0 16:47 30.17 25.80 -240.0 0.0 17:00 35.23 25.58 -240.0 0.0 17:01 28.35 25.58 -240.0 0.0 17:02 35.28 25.58 -240.0 0.0 17:15 45.32 25.10 -240.0 1499.4 17:16 30.14 25.10 -240.0 0.0 17:17 27.57 25.10 -240.0 0.0 17:30 51.09 25.30 -240.0 1499.5 17:31 53.16 25.30 -240.0 1499.6 17:32 30.18 25.30 -240.0 0.0 17:45 47.93 25.21 -240.0 1499.5 17:46 48.63 25.21 -240.0 1499.5 17:47 49.12 25.21 -240.0 1499.5 18:00 38.75 34.29 -240.0 0.0 18:01 32.01 34.29 -240.0 0.0 18:02 28.89 34.29 -240.0 0.0 18:15 51.36 26.01 -240.0 1499.6 18:16 38.85 26.01 -240.0 0.0 18:17 40.74 26.01 -240.0 0.0 18:30 43.06 24.96 -240.0 1499.5 18:31 29.24 24.96 -240.0 0.0 18:32 29.61 24.96 -240.0 0.0 18:45 36.98 26.26 -240.0 0.0 18:46 34.87 26.26 -240.0 0.0 18:47 36.14 26.26 -240.0 0.0 19:00 50.09 26.57 -240.0 1499.7 19:01 42.04 26.57 -240.0 1518.0 19:02 28.58 26.57 -240.0 0.0 _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Andy Talbot Sent: 17 March 2009 19:48 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Who's playing on 503.7 OK, Who is it? We can see you There's activity in the 5 and 6 minutes slots. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com ------=_NextPart_001_007B_01C9A74B.9E595450 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Andy,

&nb= sp;

>>= >> Did the messages about the modified beacon timing software get though this reflector - don't appear to see them in the in box?

I received the original & the correction to the url.

&nb= sp;

OK, I used “decode” as the first word that came out of my head.

&nb= sp;

I have looked at the black trace on my beacon chart & it doesn’t seem to=20= coincide with the peaks on the blue & green trace, there is a black peak but slightly offset. On my grabber saves there is very high noise level for a couple of minutes some times the blue & green has a peak which shows on=20= the text log as well.

&nb= sp;

But I have also seen very short carriers which I thought at first were part of you normal beacon signal & when looking carefully at the timestamp were at t= he following times – 1735, 1750 & 1751. At these times there was no burst of noise.

&nb= sp;

Cheers,<= o:p>

&nb= sp;

Gary - G4WGT.

&nb= sp;

&nb= sp;

&nb= sp;

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Andy Talbot
Sent: 17 March 2009 20:36
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: RE: Who's pl= aying on 503.7

 

continued ...

 

The black trace gives it away.  If there is extended=  QRM that spans  the noise measurement period (which is the WHOLE minute before) and the 5s Tx period it will show up on both.   The differ= ent system of noise measurement explains why the (no QRMed) green and blue traces are not sitting on top of teh black trace.   Ideally, with=20= no signal there, they should.


Andy  G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com

2009/3/17 Andy Talbot <andy.g4jnt@google= mail.com>

I filled in a couple at 1800, deliberately, by flicking t= he test switch on my beacon Tx.   But there are too many peaks on the green annd blue traces to not suspect someone else is firing up a Tx.

 

Its not a case of false decodes - there's not such thing=20= as a 'decode' with this monitoring S/W.   All it does is to measure the sig= nal power over precisely  this time slot, using a synchronised FFT wit= h a bin size of 0.2Hz, which after windowing gives about 0.4Hz noise bandwidth.  So any QRM would have to be quite strong to make a significant impact, and persist over 5 seconds.   Short spikes get  averaged out to not-a-lot.

 

Did the messages about the modified beacon timing softwar= e get though this reflector - don't appear to see them in the in box?

 

If not,  http://www.g4jnt.com/beacons.htm at the bottom look for PCBCN

 


Andy  G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com

2009/3/17 Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>

 

Hi Andy, LF,

 <= o:p>

I have not detected anyth= ing here other than your Tx.

 <= o:p>

I was going to e-mail any= way because I have some false decodes on the 5 & 6 minute slots, see list below. These coincide with high bursts of noise which I experience here from time to time. Is there an issue with the decode software being “foxed” by high noise level?

 <= o:p>

Gary – G4WGT.

 <= o:p>

15:45  40.35  25.76  -240.0  0.0

15:46  41.05  25.76  -240.0  1499.5

15:47  39.52  25.76  -240.0  0.0

16:00  41.70  25.75  -240.0  1499.5

16:01  41.62  25.75  -240.0  1510.6

16:02  31.49  25.75  -240.0  0.0

16:15  40.10  25.47  -240.0  0.0

16:16  30.16  25.47  -240.0  0.0

16:17  29.17  25.47  -240.0  0.0

16:30  37.85  28.93  -240.0  0.0

16:31  41.80  28.93  -240.0  0.0

16:32  36.23  28.93  -240.0  0.0

16:45  40.98  25.80  -240.0  1499.6

16:46  29.45  25.80  -240.0  0.0

16:47  30.17  25.80  -240.0  0.0

17:00  35.23  25.58  -240.0  0.0

17:01  28.35  25.58  -240.0  0.0

17:02  35.28  25.58  -240.0  0.0

17:15  45.32  25.10  -240.0  1499.4

17:16  30.14  25.10  -240.0  0.0

17:17  27.57  25.10  -240.0  0.0

17:30  51.09  25.30  -240.0  1499.5

17:31  53.16  25.30  -240.0  1499.6

17:32  30.18  25.30  -240.0  0.0

17:45  47.93  25.21  -240.0  1499.5

17:46  48.63  25.21  -240.0  1499.5

17:47  49.12  25.21  -240.0  1499.5

18:00  38.75  34.29  -240.0  0.0

18:01  32.01  34.29  -240.0  0.0

18:02  28.89  34.29  -240.0  0.0

18:15  51.36  2= 6.01  -240.0  1499.6

18:16  38.85  26.01  -240.0  0.0

18:17  40.74  26.01  -240.0  0.0

18:30  43.06  24.96  -240.0  1499.5

18:31  29.24  24.96  -240.0  0.0

18:32  29.61  24.96  -240.0  0.0

18:45  36.98  26.26  -240.0  0.0

18:46  34.87  26.26  -240.0  0.0

18:47  36.14  26.26  -240.0  0.0

19:00  50.09  26.57  -240.0  1499.7

19:01  42.04  26.57  -240.0  1518.0

19:02  28.58  26.57  -240.0  0.0

 <= o:p>

 <= o:p>

 <= o:p>

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Andy Talbot
Sent: 17 March 2009 19:48
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Who's playing on 503.7

=  

= OK, Who is it? <= o:p>

= We can see you

= There's activity in the 5 and 6 minutes slots.

=  

=  

=
Andy  G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com

 

 

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That was my last night on 137 and tonight its going to be 500 as will my las= t night tomorrow. Email to follow.
 
The station is not attended at night, and we are housed about 30Km= s from the CATIE research establishment, nestled in a small bodega unde= r a fairly smoking and steaming all too close volcano. So not a lot of flex=20= to change modes or freqs.
 
The antennae is the baby bottle eprobe supported by an 11m fishing pole= . Noise is a problem but its a nearby 3 phase Hi Pot power line and they nee= d to clean or wash and replace some of the switching and iso's.
 
73 and thanks to all for the signals - Ill take a closer look at the capture= s later.
 
Laurence ti3/kl1x Turrialba Costa Rica
 

 
> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 10:58:31 -0400
> From: dmcin= tyre@att.net
> To: lowfer@mailman.qth.net
> CC: rsgb_lf_group@bl= acksheep.org
> Subject: LF: Re: [Lowfer] XGJ and XKO into TI3
>=20=
> Laurence,
>
> I kind of like this one better that I sn= agged from you page this morning
> just before sunrise :)
> > http://w4dex.com/lf/xko_reports/XKO_KL1X_CostaRica.jpg
>
>= ; Tnx,
> Dex
>
> Laurence BY3A-KL1X China wrote:
>=20= > http://kl1x.com/ti3.jpg
> >
> >
>
>
Express your personality in color! Preview and select themes fo= r Hotmail=AE. See how. =3D --_977defd6-79f1-4c82-a6ea-00dc50e8c13d_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me06.mx.aol.com (rly-me06.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.40]) by air-me02.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME024-9c449cd8d1b231; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 22:36:33 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me06.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME068-9c449cd8d1b231; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 22:36:14 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LnOO5-0000jb-Lx for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 02:35:09 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LnOO5-0000jS-Ap for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 02:35:09 +0000 Received: from psmtp30.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.32]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LnOO3-0004kT-Fh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 02:35:09 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp30.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KH7007MY36BB9@psmtp30.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 03:34:59 +0100 (MET) Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 03:34:59 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <09EEBFEAD3D34FD683AA5838C7343032@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: AGC 28-03.jpg Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_ot0LMsJ2tR6NYUfLSJp46w)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_ot0LMsJ2tR6NYUfLSJp46w) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_U4ZwQTgKllbFAsy4VbyVjg)" --Boundary_(ID_U4ZwQTgKllbFAsy4VbyVjg) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Nice capture AGC Henny cpm best 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: agc 28-03.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld. --Boundary_(ID_U4ZwQTgKllbFAsy4VbyVjg) Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
Nice capture AGC
Henny cpm
best 73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
agc 28-03.jpg

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--Boundary_(ID_zI2+1+HWUDr+mtojWo9Dlg)-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de03.mx.aol.com (rly-de03.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.139]) by air-de06.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDE063-4c649beba47307; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 16:45:13 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de03.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE037-4c649beba47307; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 16:44:56 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LjJfx-0006DY-5w for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 20:44:45 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LjJfw-0006DM-39 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 20:44:44 +0000 Received: from mail-fx0-f174.google.com ([209.85.220.174]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LjJfu-0005cZ-Bw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 20:44:44 +0000 Received: by fxm22 with SMTP id 22so3916365fxm.4 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 13:44:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=LV/7pIgQqdCr4sprMTXpHHf10f/EuzQn745QmbCI4Eo=; b=u4DVrPqINPWi2Qg5fuRlA8BMRVFJoG5vJ8CmmLqRAD1ZKXj96ORrzrLppVjhRKz3Kh /K8dtkhKZJapgLAVB6MrfvJmS/Klc70MvpRKsOA9aoS9KPo0sBrOROjZa9wtzwXeR/ZO x4b62fQAaclH/B6rUvFO5j2d8E7UnnZNuaU5k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=HNPGHO4WjMTIPu1b1WRdFHfVaX99rgTektL610qNiVV1377YhNdKoawZud4fES/OpN /EznTkl0MyT84M88Hf8XayFZpakRpqJl/RQ2AIISsklfffowRPZTr0a4jS3h/eRGpXEB gzf4A+ko3kUa1nkJ69VzVetULJU9zrYmePdME= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.31.215 with SMTP id z23mr1757693bkc.83.1237236275848; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 13:44:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <004a01c9a677$2a8b48a0$6401a8c0@asus> References: <009001c9a588$7eb02c60$6401a8c0@asus> <00e001c9a5a7$f07216a0$6401a8c0@asus> <826BA6086575402A8C87062492069F5A@AGB> <004501c9a623$a4bf81d0$6401a8c0@asus> <2ED02F4327204E3C903828F9E18AA72B@AGB> <001e01c9a665$ebeac870$6401a8c0@asus> <00be01c9a66e$c8bfdbc0$0900a8c0@AM> <004a01c9a677$2a8b48a0$6401a8c0@asus> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 20:44:35 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f791ceb9a72a046542844e X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNSAFE, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m257.1 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --001485f791ceb9a72a046542844e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Doesn't matter which - just total system gain. That S/W works best if the noise threshold rides at about 10dB above the baseline, then it allows for up to 70 - 80dB of signal peaks. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/3/16 Gary - G4WGT > Alan, > > When you wrote :- > my only comment is that you may have too much gain in the system. > > Are you meaning sound card or receiver gain? > > Gary. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Alan Melia > Sent: 16 March 2009 19:38 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software > > Hi Gary my only comment is that you may have too much gain in the system. > It > is sometimes better to have the noise further down nearer the axis. > > I am afraid there is a major problem with this kind of beacon, when the > fading period is shorter than the sampling interval, so you dont really > know > what the path is doing. The only reliable points are the peaks, the troughs > dont really mean anything without some very sophisticated analysis and > probably two spaced receivers. However it does give a snapshot of the band > without taking up too much bandwidth (this was what was required for 5MHz > too). Despite all the data collected very little analysis has actually be > done on the 5MHz data collected by this program. The one succesfull bit of > work was that published in Radcom by Marcis Walden G0IJZ. I used it for > some > time whilst Andy was testing the Poldhu beacon on 160m and also during the > 1st two months that ran. I was certainly surprised by the daytime path on > 160m from here. I have seen the data collected in Canada via Joe Craig > VO1NA > and it is difficult to see how to use it. > > Still if you dont collect the data you will never know!! > > Alan G3NYK > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gary - G4WGT" > To: > Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 6:35 PM > Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > Hi Graham, LF, > > > > > > > > The original HTML Code for the 2 minute refresh is still inserted into > the > > page format, so upload is 30 minute intervals with Syncback & 2 minute > > refresh. I have left the refresh in case I revert back to the original > > grabber page. I will look at changing it if I continue to use the beacon > > chart upload. > > > > > > > > I would like to have feedback from the LF group regarding the page, if > you > > check it out periodically, is it useful to you, what are you looking for. > > > > > > > > You can view the chart on my web site at :- > > > > > > > > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html > > > > > > > > 73 > > > > > > > > Gary - G4WGT. > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham > > Sent: 16 March 2009 17:20 > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > > > > > Hi Gary, > > > > > > > > The page seemed to refresh quite often ... are there two settings ? > > > > > > > > G .. > > > > > > > > From: Gary - G4WGT > > > > Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:40 AM > > > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > > > Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > > > > > Hi Graham, LF, > > > > > > > > You wrote :- > > > > >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute > > intervals. <<< that could be backed off to 15 mins as the beacon only > > sends every 15 ?? > > > > > > > > I mentioned in my previous mail to ignore the text on the page as it was > > originally for grabber 1 for when I upgrade the web site (to a new design > & > > better navigation etc), also mentioned is that upload is every 30 > minutes. > > > > > > > > If the uploaded chart proves useful or interesting to operators & viewers > > then I will change the text & make it a permanent feature for the > > foreseeable future. > > > > > > > > BTW :- > > > > > > > > For those of you who are not familiar with the chart - > > > > > > > > The RED trace is Andy's (G4JNT) beacon signal & the BLACK trace is the > noise > > level at my QTH. > > > > > > > > The Blue & GREEN are not in use & should be ignored on this chart as they > > are for the other beacons used when monitoring on the 5MHz allocation. > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > Gary - G4WGT > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham > > Sent: 15 March 2009 22:17 > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > > > > > Gary.. > > > > > > > > That looks good ... 0500 looks best time for a qso .. see you then Smile > > emoticon > > > > > > > > >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute > > intervals. <<< that could be backed off to 15 mins as the beacon only > > sends every 15 ?? > > > > > > > > the 15 db over the noise in day time is the same at this qth .. looks > like > > the big dips round 1900 where just when we where testing .. typical > hihi > > > > > > > > tnx- G .. > > > > > > > > From: Gary - G4WGT > > > > Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 7:55 PM > > > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > > > Subject: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > > > > > LF, > > > > > > > > I have now got the software, Syncback running correctly (I think). > > > > > > > > The purpose of this is to upload the chart from Andy's beacon as received > > here to my web site periodically, ie. every 30 minutes. > > > > > > > > I now have a receiver running 24/7 monitoring Andy,s beacon on 503.7KHz. > > > > > > > > You can view the chart on my web site at :- > > > > > > > > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html > > > > > > > > For the moment ignore the text on the page as it is originally designed > to > > use with the 500KHz grabber when I renew my web site design. If it is a > > useful upload I will make it a permanent feature but may have to extend > the > > frequency coverage of grabber 1 so not to overload the PC with operations > > which will cause the PC to struggle. > > > > > > > > Let me have your comments please. > > > > > > > > 73 > > > > > > > > Gary - G4WGT. > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT > > Sent: 15 March 2009 16:10 > > To: LF -RSGB LF Group > > Subject: LF: Syncback software > > > > > > > > Hi LF, > > > > > > > > If anyone is using Syncback software & can help, please. > > > > > > > > I am tying to upload a file to my website who's filename does not change, > > only the file size changes. I tried to do it with Argo-upload but failed > so > > I downloaded Syncback & still failing. > > > > > > > > Syncback gives me the following message :- > > > > > > > > ********************************** > > > > Can connect, but unable to change to destination directory: > > > > /chart01.bmp:not a directory > > > > ********************************** > > > > The Syncback help does not give me the answer. > > > > > > > > Any help will be appreciated > > > > > > > > Or > > > > > > > > Will Argo-Upload do it? > > > > > > > > Or > > > > > > > > Is there something else to do it? > > > > > > > > Thanks in anticipation, > > > > > > > > 73, > > > > > > > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.13/2001 - Release Date: > 03/14/09 > > 06:54:00 > > > > _____ > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.15/2003 - Release Date: > 03/15/09 > > 14:07:00 > > > > > > > > --001485f791ceb9a72a046542844e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Doesn't matter which - just total system gain.=A0 That S/W works be= st if the noise threshold rides at about 10dB above the baseline,=A0 then it= allows for up to 70 - 80dB of signal peaks.

Andy =A0G4JNT
www= .g4jnt.com


2009/3/16 Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
Alan,

When you wrote :-
my only comment is that you may have too much gain in the=20= system.

Are you meaning sound card or receiver gain?

Gary.


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Alan Melia
Sent:= 16 March 2009 19:38
To: rsgb_l= f_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software

= Hi Gary my only comment is that you may have too much gain in the system. It=
is sometimes better to have the noise further down nearer the axis.

I= am afraid there is a major problem with this kind of beacon, when the
fa= ding period is shorter than the sampling interval, so you dont really know what the path is doing. The only reliable points are the peaks, the troughs<= br>dont really mean anything without some very sophisticated analysis andprobably two spaced receivers. However it does give a snapshot of the band<= br> without taking up too much bandwidth (this was what was required for 5MHztoo). Despite all the data collected very little analysis has actually bedone on the 5MHz data collected by this program. The one succesfull bit of=
work was that published in Radcom by Marcis Walden G0IJZ. I used it for some=
time whilst Andy was testing the Poldhu beacon on 160m and also during t= he
1st two months that ran. I was certainly surprised by the daytime path= on
160m from here. I have seen the data collected in Canada via Joe Craig VO1NA=
and it is difficult to see how to use it.

Still if you dont colle= ct the data you will never know!!

Alan G3NYK




----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org&= gt;
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 6:35 PM
Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback softwa= re


> Hi Graham, LF,
>
>
>
> The origin= al HTML Code for the 2 minute refresh is still inserted into the
> pag= e format, so upload is 30 minute intervals with Syncback & 2 minute
> refresh. I have left the refresh in case I revert back to the original<= br>> grabber page. I will look at changing it if I continue to use the be= acon
> chart upload.
>
>
>
> I would like to h= ave feedback from the LF group regarding the page, if you
> check it out periodically, is it useful to you, what are you looking fo= r.
>
>
>
> You can view the chart on my web site at=20= :-
>
>
>
> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/g= rabber3.html
>
>
>
> 73
>
>
>
> Gary - G4WGT= .
>
>
>
>
>
> =A0 _____
>
>=20= From: owner-rsgb_lf_gr= oup@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsg= b_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham
> Sent: 16 March 20= 09 17:20
> To: rsgb_lf= _group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software
>
>
>
>=20= Hi Gary,
>
>
>
> The page seemed to =A0refresh quite= often ... are there two settings ?
>
>
>
> G ..
>
>
>
> From: Gary - G4WGT <mailto:g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
>
> Sent: Mond= ay, March 16, 2009 10:40 AM
>
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>
> Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software
>
>
><= br>> Hi Graham, LF,
>
>
>
> You wrote :-
><= br>> >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at=20= 2 minute
> intervals. <<< that could be backed off to =A015 mins as the b= eacon only
> sends every 15 ??
>
>
>
> I menti= oned in my previous mail to ignore the text on the page as it was
> or= iginally for grabber 1 for when I upgrade the web site (to a new design
&
> better navigation etc), also mentioned is that upload is every= 30 minutes.
>
>
>
> If the uploaded chart proves us= eful or interesting to operators & viewers
> then I will change th= e text & make it a permanent feature for the
> foreseeable future.
>
>
>
> BTW :-
>
&= gt;
>
> For those of you =A0who are not familiar with the chart=20= -
>
>
>
> The RED trace is Andy's (G4JNT) beacon= signal & the BLACK trace is the
noise
> level at my QTH.
>
>
>
> The Blue &= ; GREEN are not in use & should be ignored on this chart as they
>= are for the other beacons used when monitoring on the 5MHz allocation.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> Gary -=20= G4WGT
>
>
>
>
>
> =A0 _____
>
&= gt; From: owner-rsgb_l= f_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsg= b_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham
> Sent: 15 March 20= 09 22:17
> To: rsgb_lf= _group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software
>
>
>
>=20= Gary..
>
>
>
> That looks good =A0... 0500 looks bes= t time for a qso .. see you then Smile
> emoticon
>
>
>
> >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refres= h at 2 minute
> intervals. <<< that could be backed off to=20= =A015 mins as the beacon only
> sends every 15 ??
>
>
>
> the =A015 db over the noise in day time is the =A0same at this=20= qth .. looks
like
> the big dips round 1900 =A0where just when we w= here testing .. =A0typical hihi
>
>
>
> tnx- G .. >
>
>
> From: Gary - G4WGT <mailto:g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
>
> Sent: Sund= ay, March 15, 2009 7:55 PM
>
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>
> Subject: LF: RE: Syncback software
>
>
>
&= gt; LF,
>
>
>
> I have now got the software, Syncbac= k running correctly (I think).
>
>
>
> The purpose o= f this is to upload the chart from Andy's beacon as received
> here to my web site periodically, ie. every 30 minutes.
>
>=
>
> I now have a receiver running 24/7 monitoring Andy,s beacon= on 503.7KHz.
>
>
>
> You can view the chart on my w= eb site at :-
>
>
>
> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber= 3.html
>
>
>
> For the moment ignore the text on= the page as it is originally designed to
> use with the 500KHz grabber when I renew my web site design. If it is a=
> useful upload I will make it a permanent feature but may have to ex= tend
the
> frequency coverage of grabber 1 so not to overload the P= C with operations
> which will cause the PC to struggle.
>
>
>
> Le= t me have your comments please.
>
>
>
> 73
>>
>
> Gary - G4WGT.
>
>
>
> =A0 ___= __
>
> From: own= er-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Beh= alf Of Gary - G4WGT
> Sent: 15 March 2009 16:10
> To: LF -RSGB LF Group
> Subject= : LF: Syncback software
>
>
>
> Hi LF,
>
&g= t;
>
> If anyone is using Syncback software & can help, plea= se.
>
>
>
> I am tying to upload a file to my website who&#= 39;s filename does not change,
> only the file size changes. I tried t= o do it with Argo-upload but failed
so
> I downloaded Syncback &= ; still failing.
>
>
>
> Syncback gives me the following message :-
&= gt;
>
>
> **********************************
>
&g= t; Can connect, but unable to change to destination directory:
>
> /chart01.bmp:not a directory
>
> **************************= ********
>
> The Syncback help does not give me the answer.
&= gt;
>
>
> Any help will be appreciated
>
>
>
> Or
>
>
>
> Will Argo-Upload do it?
&= gt;
>
>
> Or
>
>
>
> Is there some= thing else to do it?
>
>
>
> Thanks in anticipation,=
>
>
>
> 73,
>
>
>
> Gary - G4WG= T - IO83QP.
>
>
>
> =A0 _____
>
>
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--001485f791ceb9a72a046542844e-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me04.mx.aol.com (rly-me04.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.38]) by air-me04.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINME041-9ad49bac9ba4c; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 17:02:07 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me04.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME041-9ad49bac9ba4c; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 17:01:50 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LiEVS-0005H4-Lw for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 21:01:26 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LiEVS-0005Gv-1u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 21:01:26 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.152]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LiEVP-0000f3-83 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 21:01:26 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3426.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 6F5911C00085 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 22:01:17 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.110.92.90]) by mwinf3426.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id E55631C00083 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 22:01:16 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20090313210116939.E55631C00083@mwinf3426.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <6B0A0CA1E91F4B768C0B49F4287EC0F8@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 21:01:15 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8064.206 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8064.206 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Multi-function beacon Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0059_01C9A41E.D96AA970" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0059_01C9A41E.D96AA970 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Andy, Just a note, the latest plots are listed on :- http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/propagation Andy - KU4XR is also setting up to night=20 Tnx - G ..=20 From: Andy Talbot=20 Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 10:57 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org ; uk_beacons@yahoogroups.com=20 Subject: LF: Re: Multi-function beacon Just a reminder to all - this beacon is still going, and will probably conti= nue to do so until further notice. A few listeners have downloaded the sof= tware, and thanks to all (you know who your are :-) for the plots / listings= . I am not in a position to compile them, so don't expect revelations, but= Gerhard / DK6NI has been monitoring pretty well continuously, and has plo= tted some deep fades / enhancements measured over hours with depths in the r= egions of 30dB. Are there any stations in the US in a position to monitor ? =20 Please note that if using the recommended 5meg beacon monitoring software yo= u'll either have to set the delta time to -240 (or -180 or -120) seconds or=20= adjust the PC clock by two, three or four minutes to cope with the four minu= te offset I'm running it on. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com =20 2009/3/6 Andy Talbot I've now started transmitting a timed beacon signal on 503.7kHz that is i= dentical in format to that of GB3SSS operated over the winter months of the=20= last two years from Poldhu on 1.9 and 3.5MHz, and has a similar signal str= ucture to the 5MHz beacons, GB3RAL, WES and ORK. These all have an initial=20= CW ident and stepped power levels for aural reception, and a precisely defin= ed period of full-power plain carrier for S/N measurements. =20 See http://www.rsgb-spectrumforum.org.uk/5mhz%20beacons.htm for the com= plete 5MHz signal structure. For this MF transmission, as on GB3SSS, the p= ulsed sounder sequence of the 5MHz beacons is replaced with a PSK31 message=20= which lasts from 30s to approx 48 seconds after the start Auto Monitoring software writen by G3PLX is available for monitoring these= beacons, it measures signal to noise during the carrier period and saves to= file as well as plotting the last 40 hours worth of measurements. The software can be downloaded from http://www.rsgb.org/spectrumforum/hf/= beaconauto.php . PSK31 data can be copied with Digipan, Fldigi, PSK31SBW o= r a host of other packages. TIMING=20 The 503.7kHz transmission takes place every 15 minutes at 4 minutes past t= he quarter hour. =20 ie each transmission starts at xx:04, xx:19, xx:34 and xx:49 This time=20= slot has been selected so that the transmission do not interfere with my con= tinuous ongoing reception of the 5Mhz beacons - the active antenna used for=20= these is overloaded by the 500kHz signal and I have already lost data when t= he WSPR beacon transmission coincided with one of the monitoring windows. NOTE If using the G3PLX software, this only monitors for the three 5MHz=20= beacons at 00, 01 and 02 minutes. SO IT WILL BE NECESSARY TO FRIG THE SOFTWARE to monitor this transmission= at the 04 minute point. The necessary alteration can be done by firstly s= etting your PC clock accurately to the correct time, then setting the Track=20= Time box to -240 (minus 240 seconds). This will make the software look for=20= this transmission during the time window it thinks it would be receiving GB3= RAL, and log the MF transmission during the first minute, on the red trace,=20= as if it were GB3RAL=20 The beacon uses the identical hardware to the WSPR transmissions of the la= st few weeks, with the the only change being a reprogramming of the controll= er PIC. In fact the very same hardware was previously loaned to the Poldhu= club for their beacons, with the only difference being a change to the fina= l Low Pass filter on the output of the broadband PA. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.13/1999 - Release Date: 03/13/09 0= 5:59:00 ------=_NextPart_000_0059_01C9A41E.D96AA970 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
Andy,
 
Just a note, the latest plots  ar= e listed=20 on :-
 
 
 
Andy - KU4XR  is also setting up to night
 
Tnx - G ..
 
 

Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 10:57 AM
Subject: LF: Re: Multi-function beacon

Just a reminder to all - this beacon is still going, and will probably=20 continue to do so until further notice.   A few listeners have=20 downloaded the software, and thanks to all (you know who your are :-) for th= e=20 plots / listings.   I am not in a position to compile them, so don= 't=20 expect revelations, but Gerhard  /  DK6NI has been monitoring pret= ty=20 well continuously, and has plotted some deep fades / enhancements=20 measured over hours with depths in the regions of 30dB.
 
Are there any stations in the US in a position to monitor=20 ?  
 
Please note that if using the recommended 5meg beacon monitoring softwa= re=20 you'll either have to set the delta time to -240 (or -180 or -120) seconds o= r=20 adjust the PC clock by two, three or four minutes to cope with the four minu= te=20 offset I'm running it on.
 
Andy  G4JNT
2009/3/6 Andy Talbot <andy.g4jnt@googlemai= l.com>
I've now started transmitting a timed  beacon signal on=20 503.7kHz that is identical in format to that of GB3SSS operated over=20= the=20 winter months of the last two years  from Poldhu on 1.9 and 3.5M= Hz,=20  and has a similar signal structure to the 5MHz beacons, GB3RAL,= WES=20 and ORK.  These all have an initial CW ident and stepped po= wer=20 levels for aural reception, and a precisely defined period of full-po= wer=20 plain carrier for S/N measurements.  
See   http://www.rsgb-spectrumforum.org.uk/= 5mhz%20beacons.htm =20 for the complete 5MHz  signal structure.  For this MF=20 transmission, as on GB3SSS, the pulsed sounder sequence of the 5MHz beacon= s is=20 replaced with a PSK31 message which lasts from 30s to approx 48 secon= ds=20 after the start
 
Auto Monitoring software writen by G3PLX is available for monitoring=20 these beacons, it measures signal to noise during the carrier period and s= aves=20 to file as well as plotting the last 40 hours worth of measurements.
The software can be downloaded from  http://www.rsgb= .org/spectrumforum/hf/beaconauto.php .  =20 PSK31 data can be copied with Digipan, Fldigi, PSK31SBW or a host of other= =20 packages.
 
TIMING
The 503.7kHz transmission takes place every 15 minutes at 4 minutes p= ast=20 the quarter hour. 
ie each transmission starts at xx:04, xx:19, xx:34 and=20 xx:49    This time slot has been selected so=20= that=20 the transmission do not interfere with my continuous ongoing reception of=20= the=20 5Mhz beacons - the active antenna used for these is overloaded by the 500k= Hz=20 signal and I have already lost data when the WSPR beacon transmission=20 coincided with one of the monitoring windows.
 
NOTE   If using the G3PLX software, this=20 only monitors for the three 5MHz beacons at  00, 01 and 02=20 minutes.
SO IT WILL BE NECESSARY TO FRIG THE SOFTWARE=20  to monitor this transmission at the 04 minute=20 point.   The necessary alteration can be done by firstly=20 setting your PC clock accurately to the correct time, then setting th= e=20 Track Time box to -240 (minus 240 seconds).  This will make the softw= are=20 look for this transmission during the time window it thinks it would=20= be=20 receiving GB3RAL, and log the MF transmission during the first minute= , on=20 the red trace, as if it were GB3RAL 
 
The beacon uses the identical hardware to the WSPR transmissions= =20 of the last few weeks, with the the only change being=20 a reprogramming of the controller PIC.   In fact the very s= ame=20 hardware was previously loaned to the Poldhu club for their beacons, with=20= the=20 only difference being a change to the final Low Pass filter on the output=20= of=20 the broadband PA.
 


No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG -=20 www.avg.com
Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.13/1999 - Release=20 Date: 03/13/09 05:59:00
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--Boundary_(ID_89rvNHYu93tZqMKIsBCYJg)-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg02.mx.aol.com (rly-dg02.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.86]) by air-dg07.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDG074-5a649ac7f84115; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 19:53:42 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG021-5a649ac7f84115; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 19:53:35 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LeIiO-0000Qi-0v for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 00:42:32 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LeIiM-0000QZ-QX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 00:42:30 +0000 Received: from mta21.charter.net ([216.33.127.81]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LeIiF-0001H5-JM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 00:42:30 +0000 Received: from imp10 ([10.20.200.10]) by mta21.charter.net (InterMail vM.7.09.01.00 201-2219-108-20080618) with ESMTP id <20090303004157.KAVR7559.mta21.charter.net@imp10>; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 19:41:57 -0500 Received: from [192.168.0.2] ([68.116.200.100]) by imp10 with charter.net id NQhx1b0022AU2w405QhxyJ; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 19:41:57 -0500 Message-ID: <49AC7CD4.8080900@charter.net> Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 19:41:56 -0500 From: John Andrews User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, 600MRG X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: WE2XGR/3 WSPR Monday Night Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) I goofed and posted this from the wrong email address earlier, so it will probably get moderated and posted in a couple of days! Anyway... WE2XGR/3 will be running WSPR again tonight, but on the originally announced 508.500 kHz frequency. Set your dial to 507.0. Start time will be around 2330 UTC, and it will run until 0300 UTC. The call sign on the WSPR screen will be W1TAG. If you see a WE2XGR on your screen, that would be Jay, W1VD. John Andrews, W1TAG / WE2XGR/3 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh10.mx.aol.com (rly-mh10.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.146]) by air-mh04.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMH042-bff49c3d317ca; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 13:32:27 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh10.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH107-bff49c3d317ca; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 13:32:08 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LkiZX-0006WF-KD for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 17:31:55 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LkiZX-0006W6-33 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 17:31:55 +0000 Received: from mail-qy0-f107.google.com ([209.85.221.107]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LkiZV-00025Y-G7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 17:31:55 +0000 Received: by qyk5 with SMTP id 5so1442391qyk.30 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 10:31:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=23YfL7j12LXI0lo7Wjk8HFFq36hpa/Q1D4IMSi6b0rU=; b=mM33SAWhHambLT20fsu96/q2SdMCfb3DONK6zVQKwKNbOstJpllariMymqdGy9AGzx MOLokeyPJh3OJU9AuwPjtnlWLv5mRv6rFp6r/ngaivAapVwo2V4CGnLtktbXacTqHpFO Sc6+bbjXD9S/7dlrpkVH4u96XZB6BN/QS7qlI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=nYhIf5OA5hatOAfbRLgQI7xdiPLr/tBzWy0CYlbrS8fJ2xt1Rw8VSf1cRkYjnHPUfY HEUtgrtvKqzPqKDFsvtoKfpfvgNNENEtXCpeyPSua3sB4DV/ZFI4tr4Foe8qh0j66L/P otBNr0eSNfPADP9HmL1NI5T3Cs1sQSY5blyy0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.28.213 with SMTP id n21mr6021783qac.90.1237570306269; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 10:31:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 12:31:46 -0500 Message-ID: <57a24ca70903201031x676cff07vddb351e103ea2e1a@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Ropex Info? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d248.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Marco, Thank you! --=20 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 12:23 PM, Scholz, Marco wrot= e: > Hello Warren, > I have also a Ropex and will scan the light documentation for you. > The only modification I did was a socket for the xtal, so I can easily cha= nge the frequency. I have anyway the top cover removed, because with an addi= tional big fan I can ran QRSS60. Without I think QRSS3 is the maximum. > I also need a low pass filter in front off my loading coil as described on= the great website http://wireless.org.uk/ropex.htm > > Vy73 > Marco > DD7PC > > > ----- Originalnachricht ----- > Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > An: rsgb_lf_group > Gesendet: Fri Mar 20 16:51:34 2009 > Betreff: LF: Ropex Info? > > Hello the list, > > =A0 =A0 I have just acquired a Ropex "The First" transmitter for 136kHz - > but without documentation of any kind. > I know that Ropex did not supply anything more than a single sheet of > instructions but I'm lacking even that. > Questions: > 1) Anyone have a copy of the instruction sheet that they could copy or sca= n? > 2) Any info on mods (injecting an external vfo for example)? > 3) Anybody do any 'reverse engineering' of the circuit? > > Any info at all is much appreciated! > > -- > 73 Warren K2ORS > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0WD2XGJ > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0WD2XSH/23 > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0WE2XEB/2 > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0WE2XGR/1 > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg08.mx.aol.com (rly-dg08.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.92]) by air-dg07.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDG072-5e649b18df23dd; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 15:56:30 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg08.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG085-5e649b18df23dd; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 15:56:20 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lfh5Y-0001JF-KY for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 20:56:12 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lfh5Y-0001J6-7m for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 20:56:12 +0000 Received: from mail6.ssmb.com ([199.67.203.180] helo=mail.citigroup.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lfh5X-0002wo-4O for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 20:56:12 +0000 Received: from imbarc-eu02.eur.nsroot.net (imbarc-eu02 [169.186.216.28]) by imbaspam-eu02.eur.nsroot.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/SSMB_EXT/ev: 22534 $) with ESMTP id n26Ku3Mv014267 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 20:56:04 GMT Received: from mailhub-dc1.eu.ssmb.com (mailhub-dc1.eu.ssmb.com [169.186.145.234]) by imbarc-eu02.eur.nsroot.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/SSMB_QQQ_IN/1.1) with ESMTP id n26KtsjX019573 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 20:55:54 GMT Received: from exuksm01.eur.nsroot.net (exuksm01.eur.nsroot.net [169.183.20.152]) by mailhub-dc1.eu.ssmb.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/CG_HUB) with ESMTP id n26Ktl3C014071 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 20:55:47 GMT Received: from exukmb49.eur.nsroot.net ([169.183.32.64]) by exuksm01.eur.nsroot.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Fri, 6 Mar 2009 20:55:47 +0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6619.12 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 20:55:46 -0000 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Looking for HF to LF-Transverter, ... ? Thread-Index: AcmenexW1JcTfI4vT4O+bBtK7iJKjg== From: "Scholz, Marco " To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Mar 2009 20:55:47.0328 (UTC) FILETIME=[EC991800:01C99E9D] X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 169.186.247.38 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: LF: Looking for HF to LF-Transverter, ... ? X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Dear LF-Group, sorry for bandwidth, i looking for some sort of of mixer/transverter to use a shortwave transceiver on 137KHz for WSPR. Can be in experimental stage, but i need something to start. To build something from scratch is a bit a challenge for me, so i thought i ask around. Maybe someone has to sell some parts? If yes, please send me a mail to dd7pc@gmx.de Many thanks, vy73 Marco DD7PC From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg08.mx.aol.com (rly-dg08.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.92]) by air-dg06.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDG061-5e649ac4ff914b; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:30:51 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg08.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG085-5e649ac4ff914b; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:30:36 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LeFiK-0007K3-7i for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 21:30:16 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LeFiJ-0007Ju-P8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 21:30:15 +0000 Received: from psmtp31.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.33]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LeFiI-0000Pz-S6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 21:30:15 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp31.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KFW00EPEEE8DC@psmtp31.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 22:30:09 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 22:29:58 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <6C8D5C4DCEEE438D97DFCB21FA79853A@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: AGC 02-03.jpg Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_RM99QyDc7/SuNVD9htNBeQ)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_RM99QyDc7/SuNVD9htNBeQ) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_/aV2VJ8CKSVJWlQ055MTew)" --Boundary_(ID_/aV2VJ8CKSVJWlQ055MTew) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Hi Lf, capture AGC Henny cpm 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: AGC 02-03.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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Hi Lf,
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Henny cpm
73s
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2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hello Lubos, LF, OK0EMW this evening audible in Moscow, 549. 73 Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf09.mx.aol.com (rly-mf09.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.179]) by air-mf10.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMF102-98149cbfbd8282; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 18:04:14 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf09.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF097-98149cbfbd8282; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 18:04:10 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 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(VPS 090216-1, 02/16/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Z-USANET-MsgId: XID319NcZwDm7872X39 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Lazy Man's CW made it to Venus and back Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Alberto di Bene wrote: > the meaning of the English saying of "throwing pearls to the porks".... Or perhaps it is "throwing pearls to the pigs", but the meaning does not change... 73 Alberto I2PHD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma03.mx.aol.com (rly-ma03.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.47]) by air-ma08.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMA082-89c49beac6e355; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 15:46:05 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma03.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA036-89c49beac6e355; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 15:45:52 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LjIkQ-0005h1-NI for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 19:45:18 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LjIkQ-0005gs-3A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 19:45:18 +0000 Received: from smtp819.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([77.238.189.19]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LjIkO-0005Ee-C4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 19:45:18 +0000 Received: (qmail 47489 invoked from network); 16 Mar 2009 19:38:31 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=SGymqGM099+Xg+K60+bO0OKG7MBr6tfJrDgC5ATPX6bRYH6vJOY7gAk4FiStpSuVPc1/N85+3fV+9VS9zbAjeUqtyvvetJ8KeeCkHPPH4AKkWnnHVegDffIcCovtPNUHAJkTcsyu4e0ymSz+kYF3N/O87IPA46entVSlatkivWw= ; Received: from unknown (HELO Lark) (alan.melia@213.122.53.95 with login) by smtp819.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Mar 2009 19:38:29 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: ePZ.5pIVM1n5lHYKxTUGLH_NbAU6r56iI.1Q4Qe8Pvsbq7cniuT4kWp4efwD85JC0KyD2TbaYAIob1nWghpLdMIMr2XObk7rIGrPQ.mg2IiXIRk2V8Qlr7A3nt.woTP1HUJ9R9V2fio3a7MXzNVv9d3divT3BwCf3KAGXIc_5MXNvAKPDmdV2aF9Dv9nVhcI9vvlj9ad0RXq9YcFvhhE3ufqzQ-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <00be01c9a66e$c8bfdbc0$0900a8c0@AM> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <009001c9a588$7eb02c60$6401a8c0@asus> <00e001c9a5a7$f07216a0$6401a8c0@asus> <826BA6086575402A8C87062492069F5A@AGB> <004501c9a623$a4bf81d0$6401a8c0@asus> <2ED02F4327204E3C903828F9E18AA72B@AGB> <001e01c9a665$ebeac870$6401a8c0@asus> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 19:38:11 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Gary my only comment is that you may have too much gain in the system. It is sometimes better to have the noise further down nearer the axis. I am afraid there is a major problem with this kind of beacon, when the fading period is shorter than the sampling interval, so you dont really know what the path is doing. The only reliable points are the peaks, the troughs dont really mean anything without some very sophisticated analysis and probably two spaced receivers. However it does give a snapshot of the band without taking up too much bandwidth (this was what was required for 5MHz too). Despite all the data collected very little analysis has actually be done on the 5MHz data collected by this program. The one succesfull bit of work was that published in Radcom by Marcis Walden G0IJZ. I used it for some time whilst Andy was testing the Poldhu beacon on 160m and also during the 1st two months that ran. I was certainly surprised by the daytime path on 160m from here. I have seen the data collected in Canada via Joe Craig VO1NA and it is difficult to see how to use it. Still if you dont collect the data you will never know!! Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 6:35 PM Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software > Hi Graham, LF, > > > > The original HTML Code for the 2 minute refresh is still inserted into the > page format, so upload is 30 minute intervals with Syncback & 2 minute > refresh. I have left the refresh in case I revert back to the original > grabber page. I will look at changing it if I continue to use the beacon > chart upload. > > > > I would like to have feedback from the LF group regarding the page, if you > check it out periodically, is it useful to you, what are you looking for. > > > > You can view the chart on my web site at :- > > > > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html > > > > 73 > > > > Gary - G4WGT. > > > > > > _____ > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham > Sent: 16 March 2009 17:20 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > Hi Gary, > > > > The page seemed to refresh quite often ... are there two settings ? > > > > G .. > > > > From: Gary - G4WGT > > Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:40 AM > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > Hi Graham, LF, > > > > You wrote :- > > >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute > intervals. <<< that could be backed off to 15 mins as the beacon only > sends every 15 ?? > > > > I mentioned in my previous mail to ignore the text on the page as it was > originally for grabber 1 for when I upgrade the web site (to a new design & > better navigation etc), also mentioned is that upload is every 30 minutes. > > > > If the uploaded chart proves useful or interesting to operators & viewers > then I will change the text & make it a permanent feature for the > foreseeable future. > > > > BTW :- > > > > For those of you who are not familiar with the chart - > > > > The RED trace is Andy's (G4JNT) beacon signal & the BLACK trace is the noise > level at my QTH. > > > > The Blue & GREEN are not in use & should be ignored on this chart as they > are for the other beacons used when monitoring on the 5MHz allocation. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Gary - G4WGT > > > > > > _____ > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham > Sent: 15 March 2009 22:17 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > Gary.. > > > > That looks good ... 0500 looks best time for a qso .. see you then Smile > emoticon > > > > >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute > intervals. <<< that could be backed off to 15 mins as the beacon only > sends every 15 ?? > > > > the 15 db over the noise in day time is the same at this qth .. looks like > the big dips round 1900 where just when we where testing .. typical hihi > > > > tnx- G .. > > > > From: Gary - G4WGT > > Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 7:55 PM > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > Subject: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > LF, > > > > I have now got the software, Syncback running correctly (I think). > > > > The purpose of this is to upload the chart from Andy's beacon as received > here to my web site periodically, ie. every 30 minutes. > > > > I now have a receiver running 24/7 monitoring Andy,s beacon on 503.7KHz. > > > > You can view the chart on my web site at :- > > > > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html > > > > For the moment ignore the text on the page as it is originally designed to > use with the 500KHz grabber when I renew my web site design. If it is a > useful upload I will make it a permanent feature but may have to extend the > frequency coverage of grabber 1 so not to overload the PC with operations > which will cause the PC to struggle. > > > > Let me have your comments please. > > > > 73 > > > > Gary - G4WGT. > > > > _____ > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT > Sent: 15 March 2009 16:10 > To: LF -RSGB LF Group > Subject: LF: Syncback software > > > > Hi LF, > > > > If anyone is using Syncback software & can help, please. > > > > I am tying to upload a file to my website who's filename does not change, > only the file size changes. I tried to do it with Argo-upload but failed so > I downloaded Syncback & still failing. > > > > Syncback gives me the following message :- > > > > ********************************** > > Can connect, but unable to change to destination directory: > > /chart01.bmp:not a directory > > ********************************** > > The Syncback help does not give me the answer. > > > > Any help will be appreciated > > > > Or > > > > Will Argo-Upload do it? > > > > Or > > > > Is there something else to do it? > > > > Thanks in anticipation, > > > > 73, > > > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. > > > > _____ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.13/2001 - Release Date: 03/14/09 > 06:54:00 > > _____ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.15/2003 - Release Date: 03/15/09 > 14:07:00 > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df04.mx.aol.com (rly-df04.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.17]) by air-df06.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDF064-54349c4326731e; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 20:19:00 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df04.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF042-54349c4326731e; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 20:18:49 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lkov4-0003Uv-Eu for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 00:18:34 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lkov4-0003Um-32 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 00:18:34 +0000 Received: from mailout02.t-online.de ([194.25.134.17]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lkov1-0005xp-1K for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 00:18:34 +0000 Received: from fwd04.aul.t-online.de by mailout02.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 1Lkoux-0003xQ-00; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 01:18:27 +0100 Received: from [192.168.2.22] (ZYPkkBZEZhzJ0uTzkbW2mJh4EwNqGok1o0vyXcHgli7XU+VYVAS8FC3Dlp0KtiGwxM@[93.196.39.90]) by fwd04.t-online.de with esmtp id 1Lkouw-0zh0Ii0; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 01:18:26 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de To: X-Mailer: T-Online eMail 6.07.0001 Date: 21 Mar 2009 00:16 GMT Message-ID: <1Lkouw-0zh0Ii0@fwd04.t-online.de> X-ID: ZYPkkBZEZhzJ0uTzkbW2mJh4EwNqGok1o0vyXcHgli7XU+VYVAS8FC3Dlp0KtiGwxM X-TOI-MSGID: 23b1e997-ea79-408a-806b-eb7dd19d83b7 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Ropex Info? Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Lbr Klaus, auf der RSGB-Seite tauchten nach einer Anfrage folgende Adressen zu Unterlagen über den Ropex auf. Ich habe sie hier alle hineinkopiert. http://homepage.ntlworld.com/mike.dennison/index/lf//ropex/ http://dd7pc.qsl.nu/dd7pc_137khz_files/ropex_schematic_01.jpg and http://dd7pc.qsl.nu/dd7pc_137khz_files/ropex_schematic_02.jpg http://wireless.org.uk/ropex.htm http://lf.apersonalguide.co.uk/ropex Von unserer Kreuzfahrt sind wir wohlbehalten zurück. Sonst nichts Neues. 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB > > Mike > WE0H > > > > Mike D wrote: > > I have posted the documents at: > > > > http://:lf.apersonalguide.co.uk/ropex > > > > Mike, G3XDV > > ========== > > > > > >> I have just acquired a Ropex "The First" transmitter for 136kHz - > >> but without documentation of any kind. I know that Ropex did not > >> supply anything more than a single sheet of instructions but I'm > >> lacking even that. Questions: 1) Anyone have a copy of the instruction > >> sheet that they could copy or scan? 2) Any info on mods (injecting an > >> external vfo for example)? 3) Anybody do any 'reverse engineering' of > >> the circuit? > >> > >> Any info at all is much appreciated! > >> > >> -- > >> 73 Warren K2ORS > >> WD2XGJ > >> WD2XSH/23 > >> WE2XEB/2 > >> WE2XGR/1 > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh04.mx.aol.com (rly-mh04.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.140]) by air-mh08.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMH081-bc949c118c114f; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 11:53:03 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh04.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH041-bc949c118c114f; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 11:52:35 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ljy40-0007pT-Or for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 15:52:16 +0000 Received: from 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88-106-59-96.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.59.96]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 16 Mar 2009 20:17:09 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <009001c9a588$7eb02c60$6401a8c0@asus> <00e001c9a5a7$f07216a0$6401a8c0@asus> <826BA6086575402A8C87062492069F5A@AGB> <004501c9a623$a4bf81d0$6401a8c0@asus> <2ED02F4327204E3C903828F9E18AA72B@AGB> <001e01c9a665$ebeac870$6401a8c0@asus> <00be01c9a66e$c8bfdbc0$0900a8c0@AM> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 20:17:09 -0000 Message-ID: <003901c9a674$2f94d530$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <00be01c9a66e$c8bfdbc0$0900a8c0@AM> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AcmmcDJ3Eyo2Ce0jRBSn2vvecaueYAAAt6cg X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Alan, All comments noted. This type of beaconing is new to me, I did not participate in the 5MHz beacon other than just have a look using the software for a short while when it was first introduced. Now it is in use on 500KHz then it has become a more serious subject for me. Uploading the chart is my first contribution to hopefully enhance Andy's efforts. A problem with doing this is that it puts limitations on other operations in the shack, mainly transmitting, although there are 12 minute periods for that even. I hope that the chart can be made use of in this way. Gary - G4WGT. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Alan Melia Sent: 16 March 2009 19:38 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software Hi Gary my only comment is that you may have too much gain in the system. It is sometimes better to have the noise further down nearer the axis. I am afraid there is a major problem with this kind of beacon, when the fading period is shorter than the sampling interval, so you dont really know what the path is doing. The only reliable points are the peaks, the troughs dont really mean anything without some very sophisticated analysis and probably two spaced receivers. However it does give a snapshot of the band without taking up too much bandwidth (this was what was required for 5MHz too). Despite all the data collected very little analysis has actually be done on the 5MHz data collected by this program. The one succesfull bit of work was that published in Radcom by Marcis Walden G0IJZ. I used it for some time whilst Andy was testing the Poldhu beacon on 160m and also during the 1st two months that ran. I was certainly surprised by the daytime path on 160m from here. I have seen the data collected in Canada via Joe Craig VO1NA and it is difficult to see how to use it. Still if you dont collect the data you will never know!! Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 6:35 PM Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software > Hi Graham, LF, > > > > The original HTML Code for the 2 minute refresh is still inserted into the > page format, so upload is 30 minute intervals with Syncback & 2 minute > refresh. I have left the refresh in case I revert back to the original > grabber page. I will look at changing it if I continue to use the beacon > chart upload. > > > > I would like to have feedback from the LF group regarding the page, if you > check it out periodically, is it useful to you, what are you looking for. > > > > You can view the chart on my web site at :- > > > > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html > > > > 73 > > > > Gary - G4WGT. > > > > > > _____ > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham > Sent: 16 March 2009 17:20 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > Hi Gary, > > > > The page seemed to refresh quite often ... are there two settings ? > > > > G .. > > > > From: Gary - G4WGT > > Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:40 AM > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > Hi Graham, LF, > > > > You wrote :- > > >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute > intervals. <<< that could be backed off to 15 mins as the beacon only > sends every 15 ?? > > > > I mentioned in my previous mail to ignore the text on the page as it was > originally for grabber 1 for when I upgrade the web site (to a new design & > better navigation etc), also mentioned is that upload is every 30 minutes. > > > > If the uploaded chart proves useful or interesting to operators & viewers > then I will change the text & make it a permanent feature for the > foreseeable future. > > > > BTW :- > > > > For those of you who are not familiar with the chart - > > > > The RED trace is Andy's (G4JNT) beacon signal & the BLACK trace is the noise > level at my QTH. > > > > The Blue & GREEN are not in use & should be ignored on this chart as they > are for the other beacons used when monitoring on the 5MHz allocation. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Gary - G4WGT > > > > > > _____ > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham > Sent: 15 March 2009 22:17 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > Gary.. > > > > That looks good ... 0500 looks best time for a qso .. see you then Smile > emoticon > > > > >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute > intervals. <<< that could be backed off to 15 mins as the beacon only > sends every 15 ?? > > > > the 15 db over the noise in day time is the same at this qth .. looks like > the big dips round 1900 where just when we where testing .. typical hihi > > > > tnx- G .. > > > > From: Gary - G4WGT > > Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 7:55 PM > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > Subject: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > LF, > > > > I have now got the software, Syncback running correctly (I think). > > > > The purpose of this is to upload the chart from Andy's beacon as received > here to my web site periodically, ie. every 30 minutes. > > > > I now have a receiver running 24/7 monitoring Andy,s beacon on 503.7KHz. > > > > You can view the chart on my web site at :- > > > > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html > > > > For the moment ignore the text on the page as it is originally designed to > use with the 500KHz grabber when I renew my web site design. If it is a > useful upload I will make it a permanent feature but may have to extend the > frequency coverage of grabber 1 so not to overload the PC with operations > which will cause the PC to struggle. > > > > Let me have your comments please. > > > > 73 > > > > Gary - G4WGT. > > > > _____ > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT > Sent: 15 March 2009 16:10 > To: LF -RSGB LF Group > Subject: LF: Syncback software > > > > Hi LF, > > > > If anyone is using Syncback software & can help, please. > > > > I am tying to upload a file to my website who's filename does not change, > only the file size changes. I tried to do it with Argo-upload but failed so > I downloaded Syncback & still failing. > > > > Syncback gives me the following message :- > > > > ********************************** > > Can connect, but unable to change to destination directory: > > /chart01.bmp:not a directory > > ********************************** > > The Syncback help does not give me the answer. > > > > Any help will be appreciated > > > > Or > > > > Will Argo-Upload do it? > > > > Or > > > > Is there something else to do it? > > > > Thanks in anticipation, > > > > 73, > > > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. > > > > _____ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.13/2001 - Release Date: 03/14/09 > 06:54:00 > > _____ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.15/2003 - Release Date: 03/15/09 > 14:07:00 > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd03.mx.aol.com (rly-dd03.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.150]) by air-dd07.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDD074-b6949ac0c7c352; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 11:42:44 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd03.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD033-b6949ac0c7c352; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 11:42:38 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LeBDg-0004jm-RH for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:42:20 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LeBDg-0004jd-GV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:42:20 +0000 Received: from simone.ucs.mun.ca ([134.153.232.77]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LeBDf-00064X-6w for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:42:20 +0000 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.232.153]) by simone.ucs.mun.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n22Gg96Z024117 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 13:12:09 -0330 Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 13:12:09 -0330 (NST) From: jcraig@mun.ca X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: blacksheep In-Reply-To: <0FD81C970D1F4740A80463DB2680F696@ns94d01ae4d850> Message-ID: References: <0FD81C970D1F4740A80463DB2680F696@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: 184khz QRT again! Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Thanks to Henny, Jean-Pierre, Victor and Willem for the recent reports. As a result of an ice storm last night, the antenna is on the ground again. 73 Joe VO1NA On Sun, 1 Mar 2009, henny van elst wrote: > Hi Joe,lf > nil on the screen > henny cpm > best 73s > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db08.mx.aol.com (rly-db08.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.83]) by air-db04.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDB043-adc49b8cbaa3e1; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 04:45:44 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db08.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB082-adc49b8cbaa3e1; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 04:45:32 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LhgWz-0000s8-JJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 08:44:45 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LhgWz-0000rz-3X for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 08:44:45 +0000 Received: from ttsmtp-2.cpwnetworks.com ([62.24.128.243] helo=ttsmtp.cpwnetworks.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LhgWw-0001HL-TF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 08:44:45 +0000 X-Path: TalkTalk-smtp X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AiYGAONouElOlT93/2dsb2JhbACCIy6BaIcJBscbhA0G Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.149.63.119]) by ttsmtp.cpwnetworks.com with SMTP; 12 Mar 2009 08:44:36 +0000 Message-ID: <000c01c9a2ee$c5dd4a60$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <5931f8db0903110410h410cd7c3k4fd09b74b8ae0ad5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 08:44:35 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: 137KHz reports please Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01C9A2EE.C557C6B0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C9A2EE.C557C6B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Harry I will be active on Saturday morning on CW and will look out for you. de mal/g3kev =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Harry Woodhouse=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 11:10 AM Subject: LF: 137KHz reports please I hope to transmit QRSS3 on 137.68 KHz on Saturday mornings March 21 & 28.= Depends on weather here in Cornwall - I live on the coast and have to erect= a temporary mast. Using Decca Tx from Isles of Scilly running 825 watts inp= ut to a Marconi T 230 feet long 30 feet up. Lazy Loop for Rx. Started on 72=20= KHz in 1998, reached well into Devon, but nobody there so no contacts! On 13= 6 have only had QSOs with G3YXM, F6BWO, G3XDV & G3WCB. I am 79 and strugglin= g! Would be delighted to make more contacts, but please be patient with me,=20= I keep doing stupid things! Regards, Harry G3MFW ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.9/1993 - Release Date: 03/10/09=20= 07:19:00 ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C9A2EE.C557C6B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Harry
I will be active on Saturday morning on CW=20= and=20 will look out for you.
de mal/g3kev
 
----- Original Message -----
Harry Woodhouse
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 11:= 10=20 AM
Subject: LF: 137KHz reports please<= /DIV>

I hope to transmit QRSS3 on 137.68 KHz on Saturday mornings= =20 March 21 & 28. Depends on weather here in Cornwall - I live on the coa= st=20 and have to erect a temporary mast. Using Decca Tx from Isles of Scilly=20 running 825 watts input to a Marconi T 230 feet long 30 feet up. Lazy Loop= for=20 Rx. Started on 72 KHz in 1998, reached well into Devon, but nobody there s= o no=20 contacts! On 136 have only had QSOs with G3YXM, F6BWO, G3XDV & G3WCB.=20= I am=20 79 and struggling! Would be delighted to make more contacts, but please be= =20 patient with me, I keep doing stupid=20 things!
          &nb= sp;            =20 Regards, Harry G3MFW


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------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C9A2EE.C557C6B0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db09.mx.aol.com (rly-db09.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.84]) by air-db09.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDB091-ae649b1188e142; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 07:35:40 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db09.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB094-ae649b1188e142; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 07:35:30 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LfZGP-000337-P6 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 12:34:53 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LfZGM-00032y-SJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 12:34:50 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.151] helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LfZGL-0006yt-4p for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 12:34:50 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3503.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id C1B7A7000084 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 13:34:43 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.23.203]) by mwinf3503.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 4AAE67000081 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 13:34:43 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20090306123443305.4AAE67000081@mwinf3503.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <0566EF6DE20B4249A3E74859BF9BA2C6@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 12:34:42 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8064.206 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8064.206 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Multi-function beacon Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002E_01C99E57.ECA37B10" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_002E_01C99E57.ECA37B10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Andy, Quick Q .. is the reception software capable of auto reporting to the 5 me= g group ? I have an idea it has this facility .or at least produces a -5 meg- report=20= file . if so can it be turned off ? G ..=20 From: Andy Talbot=20 Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 11:03 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Cc: jfell@tesco.net=20 Subject: LF: Multi-function beacon I've now started transmitting a timed beacon signal on 503.7kHz that is ide= ntical in format to that of GB3SSS operated over the winter months of the la= st two years from Poldhu on 1.9 and 3.5MHz, and has a similar signal struc= ture to the 5MHz beacons, GB3RAL, WES and ORK. These all have an initial CW= ident and stepped power levels for aural reception, and a precisely defined= period of full-power plain carrier for S/N measurements. =20 See http://www.rsgb-spectrumforum.org.uk/5mhz%20beacons.htm for the compl= ete 5MHz signal structure. For this MF transmission, as on GB3SSS, the pul= sed sounder sequence of the 5MHz beacons is replaced with a PSK31 message wh= ich lasts from 30s to approx 48 seconds after the start Auto Monitoring software writen by G3PLX is available for monitoring these b= eacons, it measures signal to noise during the carrier period and saves to f= ile as well as plotting the last 40 hours worth of measurements. The software can be downloaded from http://www.rsgb.org/spectrumforum/hf/be= aconauto.php . PSK31 data can be copied with Digipan, Fldigi, PSK31SBW or=20= a host of other packages. TIMING=20 The 503.7kHz transmission takes place every 15 minutes at 4 minutes past the= quarter hour. =20 ie each transmission starts at xx:04, xx:19, xx:34 and xx:49 This time sl= ot has been selected so that the transmission do not interfere with my conti= nuous ongoing reception of the 5Mhz beacons - the active antenna used for th= ese is overloaded by the 500kHz signal and I have already lost data when the= WSPR beacon transmission coincided with one of the monitoring windows. NOTE If using the G3PLX software, this only monitors for the three 5MHz be= acons at 00, 01 and 02 minutes. SO IT WILL BE NECESSARY TO FRIG THE SOFTWARE to monitor this transmission a= t the 04 minute point. The necessary alteration can be done by firstly set= ting your PC clock accurately to the correct time, then setting the Track Ti= me box to -240 (minus 240 seconds). This will make the software look for th= is transmission during the time window it thinks it would be receiving GB3RA= L, and log the MF transmission during the first minute, on the red trace, as= if it were GB3RAL=20 The beacon uses the identical hardware to the WSPR transmissions of the last= few weeks, with the the only change being a reprogramming of the controller= PIC. In fact the very same hardware was previously loaned to the Poldhu c= lub for their beacons, with the only difference being a change to the final=20= Low Pass filter on the output of the broadband PA. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.8/1985 - Release Date: 03/05/09 07= :54:00 ------=_NextPart_000_002E_01C99E57.ECA37B10 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Andy,
 
Quick Q .. is the  reception software=20= capable=20 of auto reporting to the  5 meg group ?
 
I have an idea it has this  facility .= or at=20 least produces a -5 meg- report file . if so can it be turned off=20 ?
 
 
G ..

Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 11:03 AM
Subject: LF: Multi-function beacon

I've now started transmitting a timed  beacon signal on 503.7= kHz=20 that is identical in format to that of GB3SSS operated over the winter=20 months of the last two years  from Poldhu on 1.9 and 3.5MHz,  = ;and=20 has a similar signal structure to the 5MHz beacons, GB3RAL, WES and=20 ORK.  These all have an initial CW ident and stepped power le= vels=20 for aural reception, and a precisely defined period of full-power plain= =20 carrier for S/N measurements.  
See   http://www.rsgb-spectrumforum.org.uk/5mhz%20beacons.htm&n= bsp;=20 for the complete 5MHz  signal structure.  For this MF=20 transmission, as on GB3SSS, the pulsed sounder sequence of the 5MHz beacons=20= is=20 replaced with a PSK31 message which lasts from 30s to approx 48 seconds= =20 after the start
 
Auto Monitoring software writen by G3PLX is available for monitoring th= ese=20 beacons, it measures signal to noise during the carrier period and saves to=20= file=20 as well as plotting the last 40 hours worth of measurements.
The software can be downloaded from  http://www.rsgb.org/spectrumforum/hf/be= aconauto.php .  =20 PSK31 data can be copied with Digipan, Fldigi, PSK31SBW or a host of other=20 packages.
 
TIMING
The 503.7kHz transmission takes place every 15 minutes at 4 minutes pas= t=20 the quarter hour. 
ie each transmission starts at xx:04, xx:19, xx:34 and=20 xx:49    This time slot has been selected so th= at=20 the transmission do not interfere with my continuous ongoing reception of th= e=20 5Mhz beacons - the active antenna used for these is overloaded by the 500kHz= =20 signal and I have already lost data when the WSPR beacon transmission coinci= ded=20 with one of the monitoring windows.
 
NOTE   If using the G3PLX software, this only monit= ors=20 for the three 5MHz beacons at  00, 01 and 02 minutes.
SO IT WILL BE NECESSARY TO FRIG THE SOFTWARE=20  to monitor this transmission at the 04 minute=20 point.   The necessary alteration can be done by firstly=20 setting your PC clock accurately to the correct time, then setting the=20 Track Time box to -240 (minus 240 seconds).  This will make the softwar= e=20 look for this transmission during the time window it thinks it would be= =20 receiving GB3RAL, and log the MF transmission during the first minute,=20= on=20 the red trace, as if it were GB3RAL 
 
The beacon uses the identical hardware to the WSPR transmissions=20 of the last few weeks, with the the only change being a reprogramm= ing=20 of the controller PIC.   In fact the very same hardware was previo= usly=20 loaned to the Poldhu club for their beacons, with the only difference being=20= a=20 change to the final Low Pass filter on the output of the broadband PA.
 
Andy  G4JNT


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------=_NextPart_000_002E_01C99E57.ECA37B10-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df09.mx.aol.com (rly-df09.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.22]) by air-df04.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDF042-57b49ad51d729f; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 10:50:59 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df09.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF098-57b49ad51d729f; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 10:50:51 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LeWsm-0000ee-6e for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 15:50:12 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LeWsl-0000eV-Qo for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 15:50:11 +0000 Received: from mx7.mail.ru ([94.100.176.21]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LeWsk-0005BC-LB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 15:50:11 +0000 Received: from [79.98.8.6] (port=11142 helo=EFREMOV) by mx7.mail.ru with asmtp id 1LeWse-000PTA-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 18:50:04 +0300 X-Nat-Received: 172.16.10.160 Message-ID: <001401c99c17$b87f6f70$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> From: "Andrey rn3agc" To: References: <6C8D5C4DCEEE438D97DFCB21FA79853A@ns94d01ae4d850> Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 15:48:20 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: Ok X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: AGC 02-03.jpg Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Thanks Henny! 73 Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV > Hi Lf, > capture AGC > Henny cpm > 73s > Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: > AGC 02-03.jpg > > Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde > bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df07.mx.aol.com (rly-df07.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.20]) by air-df05.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDF053-56149b271a6314; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 08:08:13 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df07.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF072-56149b271a6314; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 08:07:52 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LfwFY-0004XB-GV for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 13:07:32 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LfwFX-0004X2-Rg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 13:07:31 +0000 Received: from fmmailgate01.web.de ([217.72.192.221]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LfwFW-0004Mq-3i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 13:07:31 +0000 Received: from smtp07.web.de (fmsmtp07.dlan.cinetic.de [172.20.5.215]) by fmmailgate01.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 759E8FE50A40; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 14:07:20 +0100 (CET) Received: from [217.227.69.138] (helo=[192.168.1.101]) by smtp07.web.de with esmtp (WEB.DE 4.110 #277) id 1LfwFH-0000nw-00; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 14:07:15 +0100 Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 14:07:11 +0100 From: Michael Oexner X-Mailer: The Bat! (v2.12.00) Personal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <565395453.20090307140711@web.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org CC: wum.staubach@t-online.de MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: michael.oexner@web.de X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19KjQIdXvogsH3LF6UvFJ7wxp4q7jwy+k3tGuGl au1+ttLpmH5jeE9OZLhEsXt/LF/6zZfanlZkZv7b1XwaeAaicx LKIVrhpiA5EHh7p3IuyQ== X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: DI2AG daytime Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------116173E8111678A5" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=LINES_OF_YELLING autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------------116173E8111678A5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, Copying DI2AG WSPR as shown below: 1038 -33 1.2 0.505088 0 DI2AG JN59 23 1046 -33 1.2 0.505088 0 DI2AG JN59 23 1050 -33 1.2 0.505088 0 DI2AG JN59 23 1056 -33 1.8 0.505087 0 DI2AG JN59 23 1104 -33 1.4 0.505087 0 DI2AG JN59 23 1112 -33 1.4 0.505088 0 DI2AG JN59 23 1120 -33 1.5 0.505088 0 DI2AG JN59 23 1124 -33 1.3 0.505088 0 DI2AG JN59 23 1132 -33 1.5 0.505088 0 DI2AG JN59 23 1140 -33 1.4 0.505088 0 DI2AG JN59 23 1146 -33 1.5 0.505088 0 DI2AG JN59 23 1152 -33 1.4 0.505088 0 DI2AG JN59 23 1158 -33 1.5 0.505088 0 DI2AG JN59 23 1206 -33 1.5 0.505088 0 DI2AG JN59 23 1214 -33 1.6 0.505088 0 DI2AG JN59 23 1230 -33 1.5 0.505088 0 DI2AG JN59 23 1236 -33 1.6 0.505088 0 DI2AG JN59 23 1256 -33 2.0 0.505088 0 DI2AG JN59 23 --=20 vy 73 + gd DX, Michael RX: ICOM R75, SDR-IQ, Perseus Antenna: Wellbrook ALA 1530, Mini-Whip Location: Roschbach, Germany N 49=B015' E 8=B007' / Locator JN49BF Editor of "The European NDB Handbook" & "The North American NDB Handbook" cf. http://lwca.org/miscdocs/oexner/2009NDBinfo.zip ------------116173E8111678A5 Content-Type: image/jpeg; name="DI2AG WSPR 20090307.jpg" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="DI2AG WSPR 20090307.jpg" /9j/4AAQSkZJRgABAQEAYABgAAD//gAfTEVBRCBUZWNobm9sb2dpZXMgSW5jLiBWMS4wMQD/ 2wBDAAYEBQYFBAYGBQYHBwYIChAKCgkJChQODwwQFxQYGBcUFhYaHSUfGhsjHBYWICwgIyYn KSopGR8tMC0oMCUoKSj/2wBDAQcHBwoIChMKChMoGhYaKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgo KCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCj/wAARCACwAiYDASIAAhEBAxEB/8QAHAAA AQQDAQAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAwABAgQFBwgG/8QAWRAAAQMCAwMHCAYHBQMHDAMAAQIDEQAhBBIx BRNBBiJRYXGBoQcUFjKRsdHwFSNUlcHTFyQzNELh8SVScnOiYpLSQ0RFU1WCkyY1NlZjdJSl srXC1GR1hf/EABoBAAMBAQEBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAECAwAEBQb/xAA4EQABAwIEAgkDAwQCAwEA AAABAAIRAyEEEjFBUfAFImFxgaGxwdETMpEUFTMGQuHxFiNSYnKS/9oADAMBAAIRAxEAPwDa +M5W7Kwm0MXglJ2m9iMKsNvea7LxOIShZQlYGZtsicqkmJ40P0y2X9l2/wDcOO/JrwPLrbm0 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(rly-mh02.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.138]) by air-mh06.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMH063-bb949b6eba835c; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 18:37:41 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh02.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH021-bb949b6eba835c; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 18:37:30 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LhAYw-00015w-Dx for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 22:36:38 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LhAYw-00015n-3i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 22:36:38 +0000 Received: from simone.ucs.mun.ca ([134.153.232.77]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LhAYu-0005kL-3l for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 22:36:38 +0000 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.232.153]) by simone.ucs.mun.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n2AMaSxl017185 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 20:06:29 -0230 Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 20:06:29 -0230 (NDT) From: jcraig@mun.ca X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <49B622B9.9070601@online.fr> Message-ID: References: <49B622B9.9070601@online.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: 184khz Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Dear LF Group, The TX will be off starting tonight to monitor G4JNT on 503.7 kHz. 73 Joe VO1NA From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df08.mx.aol.com (rly-df08.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.21]) by air-df01.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDF013-56e49cc0b601bc; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:10:30 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df08.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF085-56e49cc0b601bc; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:10:27 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lmyhm-0005Kx-Kq for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 23:09:46 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lmyhm-0005Ko-9Q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 23:09:46 +0000 Received: from smtp106.prem.mail.sp1.yahoo.com ([98.136.44.61]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lmyhl-0003yU-Ou for 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(we0h@75.168.158.40 with plain) by smtp106.prem.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Mar 2009 23:09:38 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: Iz84ycYVM1kt89okI_xlLgUQNBOGCLQdElTODgMhiu5t0MVk4g8AprJilS7XUtfyj6B.nw0_Z.SW6bm_u5UoQj3ADIGQqwb4nSIkb_hxXMcCbvpW41wk.bgcdC8H07PJy_n6_6FN4c1EHPHsRWpTxkiWhMefkFjIQYswGh3BP4DU8uPsFtHR6DJ6cp8T0A-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <49CC0B28.2080804@yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 18:09:28 -0500 From: Mike-WE0H User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090318) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Re: LF: Lazy Man's CW made it to Venus and back Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Who is gonna have the first QSO via Venus? Mike WE0H Wolf wrote: > Greetings everyone, > > Not really LF, but QRSS... > > A group of radio amateurs from AMSAT-DL has successfully transmitted a (very short) message in QRSS, consisting of the two letters "HI" (im memoriam of old OSCARS) to Venus on 2.4 GHz, and received the reflection. > Each TX/RX over lasted for about 5 minutes (the travelling time). The transmitter was a 5 kW magnetron disciplined to a narrow-band transmitter. Details on the AMSAT-DL website. The German HR TV will send a documentation tonight at 19:30 (local). The EVE (Earth-Venus-Earth) details follow tomorrow on Hessischer Rundfunk. > > 73, > Wolf DL4YHF > (from the IUZ in Bochum) From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh05.mx.aol.com (rly-mh05.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.141]) by air-mh06.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMH064-bd449c51bb02; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 12:54:26 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh05.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH054-bd449c51bb02; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 12:54:11 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ll4Rt-0006ZM-Ld for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 16:53:29 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ll4Rt-0006ZD-6Z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 16:53:29 +0000 Received: from smtp08.online.nl ([194.134.42.53]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ll4Rq-0003vC-Uj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 16:53:29 +0000 Received: from smtp08.online.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp08.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC2C466328 for ; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 17:53:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from pa3fnytrqxpddu (s5593e077.adsl.wanadoo.nl [85.147.224.119]) by smtp08.online.nl (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 17:53:25 +0100 (CET) From: To: "blacksheep" Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 17:53:24 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Importance: Normal X-Online-Scanned: by Cloudmark authority (on smtp08.online.nl) X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: OE5ODL Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0002_01C9AA4D.EE34A100" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com 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SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 20 Mar 2009 02:01:52 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [212.4.140.33] From: Lubos OK2BVG To: Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 10:01:51 +0100 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Mar 2009 09:01:52.0176 (UTC) FILETIME=[82A41B00:01C9A93A] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_2a9e2e56-9809-478f-9386-a8b95963f3a0_" Subject: LF: XGJ X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_2a9e2e56-9809-478f-9386-a8b95963f3a0_ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_382df9aa-a68e-4f96-8b39-d99880854e4d_" --_382df9aa-a68e-4f96-8b39-d99880854e4d_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Warren, LF! I saw nice XGJ signal last night. Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS _________________________________________________________________ Pozvi sv=E9 p=F8=E1tele z Facebooku a Hotmailu do Messengeru! https://www.invite2messenger.net/Default.aspx=3D --_382df9aa-a68e-4f96-8b39-d99880854e4d_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Warren, LF!
I saw nice XGJ signal last night.

Lubos, OK2BVG,= JN88KS

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post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LmXxi-0001p8-3f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 18:36:26 +0000 Received: from smtpa1.mediabeam.com ([194.25.41.13]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LmXxg-0002gA-1q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 18:36:26 +0000 Received: from r300-1 ([194.25.41.40]) by smtpa1.mediabeam.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n2PIbqU3019871 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 19:37:53 +0100 From: "Uwe Jannsen" To: Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 19:36:15 Message-ID: <08BC07D903191224105F@kabelmail.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-PRIORITY: 3 X-Spam-Score: 1.8 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,INVALID_DATE=1.76 Subject: Re: Re: LF: DJ8WX Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=PRIORITY_NO_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Andrey; spring 2008 it was 600 to 800mWERP.=20 I remember several PA MOSFETS exploded because snow or rain detuned the aeri= al. have fun Uwe/dj8wx -------- Kabel E-Mail Reply --------------- From: rn3agc@mail.ru To : rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: 25.03.2009 17:06:05 > ...113mWERP... Uwe, last spring how many was? 73 Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da03.mx.aol.com (rly-da03.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.77]) by air-da04.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDA042-a5949b854d4370; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 20:18:40 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da03.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA031-a5949b854d4370; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 20:18:30 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LhYcn-0005NS-Hy for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 00:18:13 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LhYcn-0005NJ-4F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 00:18:13 +0000 Received: from vms173009pub.verizon.net ([206.46.173.9]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LhYck-0007Cd-NL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 00:18:13 +0000 Received: from DR2 ([71.184.212.10]) by vms173009.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KGD00HG7A5D06A1@vms173009.mailsrvcs.net> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 19:17:38 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <6F5FDD77751E47668B504D68B5A72CE8@DR2> From: "dave.riley3" To: References: <929C5BBFDED6431E8C9F8642D5402094@DR2> Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 19:17:37 -0500 MIME-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: SM6BHZ Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_008C_01C9A27E.09D91350" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.7 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_60_70, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_008C_01C9A27E.09D91350 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Go ahead but all I will see is maybe more power?? ----- Original Message -----=20 From: dave.riley3=20 To: 600MRG=20 Cc: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 6:59 PM Subject: LF: SM6BHZ WSPR loud and clean 504.500 090311 2356 6 -26 1.1 0.504497 SM6BHZ JO57 30 TNX DE /17 ------=_NextPart_000_008C_01C9A27E.09D91350 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Go ahead but all I will see is maybe more=20 power??
 
 
----- Original Message -----
dave.riley3
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 6:5= 9=20 PM
Subject: LF: SM6BHZ

WSPR loud and clean =20 504.500
 
090311 2356   6 -26  1.1 &= nbsp;=20 0.504497  SM6BHZ JO57 30
 
 
TNX DE /17
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_008C_01C9A27E.09D91350-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df05.mx.aol.com (rly-df05.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.18]) by air-df05.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDF053-54f49ca86151ec; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:29:55 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df05.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF054-54f49ca86151ec; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:29:27 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LmYmD-000274-6e for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 19:28:37 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LmYmC-00026v-JK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 19:28:36 +0000 Received: from [193.252.22.191] (helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LmYm9-0002oZ-OK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 19:28:36 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3607.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 5350B700008B for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 20:28:28 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.50.116]) by mwinf3607.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 16A3A700008A for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 20:28:28 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20090325192828928.16A3A700008A@mwinf3607.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: References: <86B4F549F8F247DDA470143B3BE77364@Hugh> <008c01c9ad63$4e9a9190$6401a8c0@asus> In-Reply-To: <008c01c9ad63$4e9a9190$6401a8c0@asus> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 19:28:27 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8064.206 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8064.206 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: RE: Re: TDA2003, TDA2030 for PA? Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 G.. Just checked ... power -3 db at 140 Khz .. but the gain/bw plot shows 20=20 db gain at 500 K but that's running with 'no' compensation ... so may be a little 'wild'=20 hihi G .. B Power Bandwidth (-3 dB) Gv =3D 30 dB Po =3D 12W RL =3D 4W 10 to 140,000 Hz -------------------------------------------------- From: "Gary - G4WGT" Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 4:03 PM To: Subject: LF: RE: Re: TDA2003, TDA2030 for PA? > > Hi Petr, > > I have tested a TDA2030 for a 500KHz driver & is OK for 136KHz as other > authors have stated. > > It does fall off very rapidly from 200KHz & higher & is of no use at=20 > 500KHz. > > 73 > > Gary - G4WGT. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Hugh_m0wye > Sent: 25 March 2009 15:01 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: LF: Re: TDA2003, TDA2030 for PA? > > I successfully made a TDA2030 amplifier which i used for all my intial > experimenting on 137kHz > Photo http://www.m0wye.radiouk.com/lfamp.jpg > The data sheet for this IC claims a bandwidth of 140kHz so it won't work=20 > on > 500kHz. > I think I got about 6Watts out. Not all the audio ICs have as much=20 > bandwidth > > as this. > You need a matching circuit on the output to convert the low impedance of > the amp to 50 ohms - or whatever your antenna system uses. > 73 > Hugh M0WYE > > > > > ----- Original Message -----=20 > From: "Petr Mal=FD" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 1:38 PM > Subject: LF: TDA2003, TDA2030 for PA? > > > Hi all, > > My intention is to build a small transmitter up to some 10W for 136 and=20 > 505 > kHz, this time not the D class, but B or AB class. > I think of employing AF amplifiers such as TDA2003, TDA2030, or similar.=20 > Of > course, mainly 505 kHz is rather out of range so that nothing is=20 > guaranteed. > > This is why I ask before experimenting. > Did anybody try to use these for 136/505 kHz? > > Tks, 73, Petr, OK!FIG > http://ok1fig.nagano.cz > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.283 / Virus Database: 270.11.27/2021 - Release Date: 03/24/09= =20 > 16:00:00 >=20 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (rly-dd01.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.148]) by air-dd02.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD024-b5c49cdf680303; 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Sat, 28 Mar 2009 11:04:48 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20090328100449110.1B05320000AD@mwinf1916.orange.fr Message-ID: <200903281104270721.54188600@smtp.wanadoo.fr> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (P) Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 11:04:27 +0100 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 137: 'MFW' 20dB SNR, '?E5ODL' 15dB SNR Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 At 1000z 73 F5VLF From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg01.mx.aol.com (rly-mg01.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.107]) by air-mg10.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG104-9f549ab04c7335; 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Sun, 01 Mar 2009 16:56:49 -0500 Message-ID: <49AB04A1.2030308@charter.net> Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 16:56:49 -0500 From: John Andrews User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, 600MRG References: <49AAF908.7040906@charter.net> <20090301223044.8i4kbe2osr5wco8o@webmail4.kuleuven.be> In-Reply-To: <20090301223044.8i4kbe2osr5wco8o@webmail4.kuleuven.be> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WE2XGR/3 WSPR tonight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Rik, Yes, I can use 508.000 as a center frequency. So that'll put the dial frequency down to 506.500. The WE2XVY signal would certainly be a challenge for you! So XGR/3 will be on 508.000 starting at 2330Z. John Andrews, WE2XGR/3 Rik Strobbe wrote: > Hello John, > > is +/- 508.00 instead of 508.50 an option ? > That way we would have you and WE2XVY (on 507.985) in the same WSPR > window ? > > 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > > Quoting John Andrews : > >> I will run a WSPR beacon on 508.500 kHz tonight from 2330 to 0300 UTC. >> That's a dial frequency of 507.000 kHz. Reports are welcome. >> >> John Andrews, WE2XGR/3 > > > > Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.5/1978 - Release Date: 03/01/09 07:04:00 > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma07.mx.aol.com (rly-ma07.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.51]) by air-ma08.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMA083-8ba49c34cfcd0; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 04:00:05 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma07.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA074-8ba49c34cfcd0; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 03:59:57 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LkZdh-0008Cj-1b for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 07:59:37 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LkZdg-0008Am-4S for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 07:59:36 +0000 Received: from psmtp13.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.25]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LkZde-0003k5-GE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 07:59:36 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp13.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KGS008XUOUVWM@psmtp13.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 08:59:19 +0100 (MET) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 08:59:12 +0100 From: henny van elst To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <650F5744AD854ABD8276029657B4AB17@ns94d01ae4d850> <49C2BCB0.4010607@online.fr> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: F6AFJ 19-03.jpg Content-type: text/plain; reply-type=original; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 F1AFJ, pa3cpm sri Jean-Pierre, 73s ----- Original Message -----=20 From: ""Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 (F1AFJ)"" To: Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 10:44 PM Subject: Re: LF: F6AFJ 19-03.jpg Hi Henny , TNX for capture , my call are F1AFJ not F6AFJ !!!! hi hi 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj henny van elst a =E9crit : > Hi Jean-Pierre and All, > strong signal 137khz > Henny pa3cpm > best 73s > Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden=20 > verzonden: > F6AFJ 19-03.jpg > > Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen=20 > het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe.=20 > Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe= =20 > bijlagen worden afgehandeld. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.18/2008 - Release Date: 03/17/09=20 16:25:00 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me02.mx.aol.com (rly-me02.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.35]) by air-me03.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINME032-99f49b18cd727b; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 15:52:00 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me02.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME023-99f49b18cd727b; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 15:51:38 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lfh0i-0001Ck-RS for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 20:51:12 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lfh0i-0001Cb-1D for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 20:51:12 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.151] helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lfh0g-0005LR-Ju for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 20:51:11 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3529.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 11E371C00084 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 21:51:05 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.23.203]) by mwinf3529.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 803401C00081 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 21:51:04 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20090306205104525.803401C00081@mwinf3529.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <28FA0F184B25444F8BA2F1EC5FC42C04@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <0566EF6DE20B4249A3E74859BF9BA2C6@AGB> <9C03FBF153AB478A9B0DBC5580CF20D2@AGB> In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 20:51:02 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8064.206 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8064.206 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Multi-function beacon Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00D4_01C99E9D.434773A0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_00D4_01C99E9D.434773A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable OK Andy,=20 I was thinking more in terms of generating the pulse using 'audio' and not=20= by hard keying .. but the 'area under the curve' looks a little 'thin' ..p= ity .. the rest of the system could be 'constructed' using a audio editor=20= .and sent via a ssb tx with alc 'off' .. how accurate is the start time req= uirements ?=20 tnx- G ..=20 From: Andy Talbot=20 Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 8:13 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: Multi-function beacon Not strictly -=20 Look at it in th efreqeuncy domain. A 500us pulse has its first zero at 200= 0/pi =3D 637Hz, so most of the energy is within 1300Hz bandwidth, and a subs= tantial part will pass though the Rx filter. It will be extended in time an= d flattenned, but the detection algorithm finds the peak, in effect applying= an inverse transform of the SSB filter. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com Nb the pulse width , 500uS .. that's a bit sharp for a ssb filter , on= ly 1.5 cycles at 3 Khz ... ? ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.8/1987 - Release Date: 03/06/09 07= :20:00 ------=_NextPart_000_00D4_01C99E9D.434773A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
OK  Andy,
 
I was thinking more in terms of generating=20 the  pulse using 'audio' and not by hard keying .. but the 'area under=20 the  curve' looks a little 'thin'  ..pity .. the  rest of=20 the  system could be 'constructed' using a audio editor .and sent via a= ssb=20 tx with alc 'off' .. how accurate is the  start time requirements ?=20
 
tnx- G ..
 
 

Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 8:13 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Multi-function beacon

Not strictly -
Look at it in th efreqeuncy domain.  A 500us pulse has its first z= ero=20 at 2000/pi =3D 637Hz, so most of the energy is within 1300Hz bandwidth, and&= nbsp;a=20 substantial part will pass though the Rx filter.  It will be extended i= n=20 time and flattenned, but the detection algorithm finds the peak, in effect=20 applying an inverse transform of the SSB filter.

Andy  G4JNT
= www.g4jnt.com

 
 
Nb   the  pulse width , 500uS .= . that's=20 a bit  sharp for a ssb filter , only  1.5 cycles at 3 Khz ....=20 ?
 
 
 
 


No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG -=20 www.avg.com
Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.8/1987 - Release D= ate:=20 03/06/09 07:20:00
------=_NextPart_000_00D4_01C99E9D.434773A0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me06.mx.aol.com (rly-me06.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.40]) by air-me01.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINME011-9c449c020eb1c; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 18:15:18 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me06.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME068-9c449c020eb1c; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 18:15:09 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LjhYi-000895-2v for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 22:14:52 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LjhYh-00088w-OF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 22:14:51 +0000 Received: from smtp6-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.6]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LjhYf-0003Cd-Ei for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 22:14:51 +0000 Received: from smtp6-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp6-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 834B8E0801C for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 23:14:43 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp6-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D4F3E080F4 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 23:14:41 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <49C020D0.3050201@online.fr> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 23:14:40 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <49C01194.2010305@online.fr> In-Reply-To: X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: [137kHz] Test de f1afj qrss60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Lubos , Thank you for report , 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj Lubos OK2BVG a =E9crit : > Hello Jean-Pierre, LF! > Your signal is FB "O" here in JN88KS. > > Lubos, OK2BVG > > > > =20 >> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 22:09:40 +0100 >> From: jpm.f1afj@online.fr >> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> Subject: LF: [137kHz] Test de f1afj qrss60 >> >> Hello LF >> I am in test on 137775 qrss60, 300 W until 22:00z >> Your reports will be welcome >> 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj >> >> =20 > > _________________________________________________________________ > Pozvi sv=E9 p=F8=E1tele z Facebooku a Hotmailu do Messengeru! > https://www.invite2messenger.net/Default.aspx > =20 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg06.mx.aol.com (rly-dg06.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.90]) by air-dg04.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDG042-5d349b66be87a; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 09:32:35 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg06.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG066-5d349b66be87a; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 09:32:27 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lh23F-0004OU-Hm for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 13:31:21 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lh23F-0004OL-3m for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 13:31:21 +0000 Received: from mail-ew0-f161.google.com ([209.85.219.161]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lh23D-0002Sf-0x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 13:31:21 +0000 Received: by ewy5 with SMTP id 5so1463263ewy.4 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 06:31:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Z7C/+84v5aeWgM58PC/9KK+PGjg+NJTXMB3PfABwMNs=; b=Cbr01X2hulobvL0PcaKz2BeyleVFpZDgW1Eqep7vmxKpHKe2Kntu3i2GnrywOuT7yD lzZdQzaa6f5kT0iTlW23vAh1w/zCqMwS8RY6nj01x7pL87/adzQyce+URBDZfG0ntJVb U9XTLm/F/ErI6Mq+ZhYWkr+cnJE5scPbbllcY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Zdj7N/YyflFdDaMVpxmAkPlVvpT0p3xC9viQO/+8CdZzTkM2x0R/QuQQ7YaP4O6E2Q AzvpYUJIOnuk+8igXP775TjtPP8oI5uOYuOtnV6jv9wrJ4djhAiRjYhZyqAb1P0UiDOH /ij5fmzi42uda1nZLHzG77fshPnnF7h+RitPU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.2.210 with SMTP id 60mr2709519wef.21.1236691873368; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 06:31:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5931f8db0903100248k30848559n7d80ce48e4227a9d@mail.gmail.com> References: <8bf118410902200141m5f37c7dcv6736f876fdcfd3e1@mail.gmail.com> <8bf118410902200151y197b60fbjddf4acd6500e4b4a@mail.gmail.com> <5931f8db0903100248k30848559n7d80ce48e4227a9d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 13:31:13 +0000 Message-ID: <8bf118410903100631k62661ee5u2ab958cb1475ae16@mail.gmail.com> From: Dave Pick To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: test Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d261.1 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Harry Well at least it's easy with Googlemail, you can just "archive" it all when you've scanned for anything interesting. Then its available for searching through later. They give you so much storage you don't need to delete anything! Dave. 2009/3/10 Harry Woodhouse : > Dear Dave, Thanks for all your trouble.I have now got a Google Mail addres= s, > and joined with no problems, but am overwhelmed by the volume of it!! > =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0 Regards, Harry > > On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 9:51 AM, Dave Pick wrote: >> >> Here is the error message: >> >> Reporting-MTA: dns; ttsmtp.cpwnetworks.com >> >> Final-Recipient: rfc822;majordomo@blacksheep.org >> Action: failed >> Status: 5.0.0 (permanent failure) >> Remote-MTA: dns; [193.82.116.32] >> Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 5.1.0 - Unknown address error 550-'This message >> scored 5.3 spam points - rejected' (delivery attempts: 0) >> >> 2009/2/20 Dave Pick >> > >> > My last message didn't get through... does this work? >> > Was trying to help a colleague who was having trouble subscribing to >> > this reflector, even though he was doing exactly the right thing his me= ssage >> > was being bounced by a spam filter. Is there any way round this? >> > >> > Dave. >> > >> > -- >> > G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK >> >> >> >> -- >> G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK >> > > --=20 G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf01.mx.aol.com (rly-mf01.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.171]) by air-mf07.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMF073-93b49ab1bdebc; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 18:36:03 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf01.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF011-93b49ab1bdebc; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 18:35:59 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LdvBq-0002XL-0H for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 23:35:22 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LdvBp-0002XC-Gq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 23:35:21 +0000 Received: from fish4a.hurontel.on.ca ([216.46.140.4] helo=fish4.hurontel.on.ca) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LdvBo-0005oD-LS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 23:35:21 +0000 Received: from hurontel.on.ca (filter4.hurontel.on.ca [216.46.129.219]) by fish4.hurontel.on.ca (Spam Firewall) with ESMTP id CAC18284A192 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 18:35:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from hurontel.on.ca (filter4.hurontel.on.ca [216.46.129.219]) by fish4.hurontel.on.ca with ESMTP id R8BWDZQzLdoX3AO2 for ; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 18:35:15 -0500 (EST) From: "weazle" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Mailer: Quality Web Email v3.1e, http://netwinsite.com/refw.htm Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 18:34:52 -0500 Message-id: <49ab1bb3.261.438d.1190371772@hurontel.on.ca> X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WE2XGR/3 WSPR tonight X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: John Andrews To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, 600MRG Subject: LF: WE2XGR/3 WSPR tonight Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 16:07:20 -0500 ----- Original Message Follows ----- > I will run a WSPR beacon on 508.500 kHz tonight from 2330 > to 0300 UTC. That's a dial frequency of 507.000 kHz. > Reports are welcome. > > John Andrews, WE2XGR/3 > Hi John, You're solid into EN93DR, just a bit up from where I've been looking for WE2XVY all the way from Arizona! 73, J.B., VE3EAR From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (rly-mg03.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.109]) by air-mg08.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMG084-a0449c075153a8; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 00:14:34 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG036-a0449c075153a8; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 00:14:15 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ljn9u-0002HZ-LH for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 04:13:38 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ljn9t-0002HQ-V2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 04:13:37 +0000 Received: from smtprelay0193.hostedemail.com ([216.40.44.193] helo=smtprelay.hostedemail.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ljn9q-0004TO-Sr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 04:13:37 +0000 Received: from filter.hostedemail.com (ff-bigip1 [10.5.19.254]) by smtprelay03.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 39491B6257 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 04:13:11 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Summary: 30,2,0,27bd2ff10d03d3f0,49f40f4b3f783a2d,ve8rt@xplornet.com,rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org,RULES_HIT:2:69:152:355:379:408:481:599:601:800:945:946:960:967:973:982:988:989:1042:1260:1261:1277:1311:1312:1313:1314:1345:1359:1437:1515:1516:1518:1519:1535:1593:1594:1595:1596:1605:1676:1730:1747:1766:1792:2194:2199:2379:2393:2525:2551:2552:2553:2560:2563:2682:2685:2829:2857:2859:2933:2937:2939:2942:2945:2947:2951:2954:3022:3027:3622:3636:3865:3866:3867:3868:3869:3870:3871:3872:3873:3874:3876:3877:3934:3936:3938:3941:3944:3947:3950:3953:3956:3959:4043:4049:4118:4225:4250:4605:4648:4649:5007:6114:6117:6119:6996:6997:7576:7652:7679:7754:7875:7903:7904:7974:8501:8599:8660:9010:9025:9038:9040:9108:9388:9545,0,RBL:none,CacheIP:none,Bayesian:0.5,0.5,0.5,Netcheck:none,DomainCache:0,MSF:not bulk,SPF:fu,MSBL:none,DNSBL:none Received: from [192.168.1.103] (xplr-ts-v10-208-114-191-189.barrettxplore.com [208.114.191.189]) (Authenticated sender: ron.t@xplornet.com) by omf02.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 04:13:05 +0000 (UTC) From: Ron Thompson To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 22:12:53 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.4 References: <200903141634.37933.ve8rt@xplornet.com> <200903151858.47737.ve8rt@xplornet.com> In-Reply-To: Organization: ARS VE8RT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200903172212.54356.ve8rt@xplornet.com> X-session-marker: 726F6E2E744078706C6F726E65742E636F6D X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Getting started, maybe Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Graham, its a good thing that they did the ice-road truckers series before the economic slowdown, traffic this year has been very light with a drivers not even making their expenses to come up here. Anyway, I'm in avionics for an operator up here. My apprentice is leaving, over pay issues, to work for one of our competitors, Buffalo Airways. You might see him on TV in a year or two as the people who did the Ice Road Truckers series are doing another one on Buffalo Air. The attraction there is that they're just now making the transition over to turbine aircraft with some Lockheed Electras, prior to that their fleet was made up of DC3's DC4s DC6s and a couple of C46s. Apparently parts these vintage machines are too hard to find so they've updated the fleet with the Electras. Thanks for the antenna recommendations. While it isn't practical to put a top hat on the tower as the power lines pass withing 7 metres or so, I could use the off-centre fed 80 metre dipole feedline as a vertical antenna for receiving. I've been told that the landfill they used to make the parking lot, that the house is in, has a foundation of old car bodies. So I should have a good ground, and I know that I have one of the quietest places in town with respect to RF noise. If, or when, we get licenced to transmit on the band then I'll be looking for some options. I did find a web site with a cursory description of a home made Isoltron loop type antenna for transmitting on the 60 metre band, if it worked it may fit my available space. Its time to call it a night. Thanks again, Ron On Tuesday 17 March 2009 13:28, Graham wrote: > Fine Ron, > > Well quite a lot of uk stations are running T or some form of top loaded > vertical , with 35 feet vertical section, mine is in the form of a > inverted L with 35 ft vertical, 40 turn/3inch top loading coil and 2 x > 40 foot parallel ,capacity section, so your towers look to be fine ? what > is the ground earth like , assume the lakes are fresh water ? > > 500 seems to be a funny frequency as theses small arrays appear to > radiate quite well and distance/power looks good , 50 watts of mfsk prints > well at 5/600 miles range > > A short 'long' wire may not work as well as you might think ..unless you > can get the height , due mostly to ground capacity .. but if you can > get 1000 mtrs out at fence height .. now that may do the trick (for rx) > > > Andy's beacon is running 100 watts and looks to be reaching K4 land > 4000 miles , you look to be 3600 miles so should be in range ? you could > try loading up a T ,atu at the base and take a look on 503.7 , using the > ral/plx software for the 5 meg project ? other beacons are about but are > not 'timed' so need spec-lab, wsper or similar .. > > 73 , G .. > > > Nb ... There has been a tv series showing the ice road truck's taking > goods up the frozen lakes quite amazing to watch .... ! > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Ron Thompson" > Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 12:58 AM > To: > Subject: Re: LF: Getting started, maybe > > > Hi Graham, > > > > my actual location is at postal code X1A 2H5 > > > > I'm in the company crew house at the float base. In the Google map > > for the postal code, at the highest available satellite magnification, > > you should > > see floatplanes along the parking lot and then in a cove on the upper > > side of > > the parking lot is a yellow Cessna floatplane. The house just to the > > left of > > the floatplane is where I live. Unfortunately, as the house is in the > > floatbase parking lot, there isn't any antenna space around it. What I > > do have is two 15 metre towers spaced about 48 metres apart that I use > > for my HF > > antenna (it used to have a company commercial HF antenna before). Any > > LF/MF > > antenna must be compact and mountable either to the house or one of the > > towers. Power lines are between the house and cove, which may be a noise > > source. > > > > Ron > > > > On Sunday 15 March 2009 16:20, Graham wrote: > >> I was looking on google earth ... looks to be a lot of sea planes > >> about .. that would prevent any high mast ?? > >> > >> the location looks a bit tricky ......a low long wire may be good .. > >> but can you get one out , looks to have roads all round ? > >> > >> G .. > >> > >> > >> From: Dave Pick > >> Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 5:24 PM > >> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > >> Subject: Re: LF: Getting started, maybe > >> > >> > >> Ron > >> > >> I would recommend a loop antenna, there are various designs around such > >> as > >> Jim M0BMU's design, http://www.wireless.org.uk/BPloops2.pdf Even though > >> you're in the middle of nowhere there, you should stand a chance of > >> getting > >> some of the US 500kHz stations ( www.500kc.com ) going under the calls > >> WD2XSH and WE2XGR with numerical suffixes identifying the individual > >> stations. We in the UK have 10W ERP but it won't be easy to get right > >> over > >> to you... Maybe you could contact some of the US stations in the North > >> and > >> do some test with them first? > >> > >> Good luck! > >> Dave G3YXM. > >> > >> 2009/3/14 Ron Thompson : > >> > I've been reading the occasional posting to the list, wondering if I > >> > could find some time and money to work with. As we do not yet have > >> > licences for the 500KHz band, the best place to start would be setting > >> > up > >> > for receiving. > > > > -- > > Ron Thompson, VE8RT > > Yellowknife, NT, Canada > > 62 28.060 N 114 20.648 W Grid Square DP22tl > > "Who are are these that fly as a cloud, and as doves to their window?" Is > > 60:8 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.15/2003 - Release Date: > > 03/15/09 14:07:00 -- Ron Thompson, VE8RT Yellowknife, NT, Canada 62 28.060 N 114 20.648 W Grid Square DP22tl "Who are are these that fly as a cloud, and as doves to their window?" Is 60:8 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da07.mx.aol.com (rly-da07.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.81]) by air-da09.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA093-a7f49cdef06aa; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 05:34:22 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da07.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA077-a7f49cdef06aa; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 05:34:02 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LnUub-0003nv-7c for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 09:33:09 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LnUua-0003nm-TL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 09:33:08 +0000 Received: from ns3.isc.de ([195.64.106.46] helo=ndisco46.misc.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LnUuY-0007Dh-4q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 09:33:08 +0000 Received: from p5b261c98.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([91.38.28.152] helo=[192.168.178.20]) by ndisco46.misc.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LnUuS-0006u5-7E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 10:33:00 +0100 From: "Klaus von der Heide" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 10:32:48 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <49CDFCD0.558.336691@v.d.heide.on-line.de> In-reply-to: <02803F019014433F8238BE62E2FC3BAD@Silver> References: , <02803F019014433F8238BE62E2FC3BAD@Silver> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41, DE v4.41 R1) Content-description: Mail message body X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Miles per Watt? Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hello Markus and all, if the reflector scatters isotropic then we have the decay of fieldstrength on the ways hence and forth which has the consequence that the received energy decays by the inverse of the FOURTH power of the distance. That was the intrinsic challenge of the EVE experiment! This also is the reason why the small distance changes of our Moon cause 2.3 dB difference in EME. 73! Klaus, DJ5HG > Gentlemen, > > sorry, but in my humble opinion a figure like "miles per watt" just doesn't make any sense. > > Fieldstrength goes with the square root of power, but decays at least proportional to inverse distance. Anyone could claim 1000 lightyears (1E16 km !) per watt, simply by feeding -165 dBm into a pair of 144 MHz dipoles spaced by 0.3 m and a QRSS3 receiver. > > A more appropiate figure would be km/sqrt(watt). > > Best regards, > Markus (DF6NM) From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh09.mx.aol.com (rly-mh09.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.145]) by air-mh02.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMH021-bf149ae475e317; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 04:18:35 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh09.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH091-bf149ae475e317; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 04:18:26 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LenEr-00026K-Qm for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 09:18:05 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LenEr-00026B-AP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 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(post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db10.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB102-aec49c7c65612a; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 13:26:48 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LlnuV-0000ax-V0 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 17:26:03 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LlnuV-0000ao-Cy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 17:26:03 +0000 Received: from [193.252.22.192] (helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LlnuR-0006md-Bq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 17:26:03 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3621.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 8A7AF7000082 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 18:25:51 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.1.168]) by mwinf3621.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 08F137000081 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 18:25:48 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20090323172549367.08F137000081@mwinf3621.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <5DC3B112A661483985D7E2EE0E0821B6@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <20090323085031.52ABEF3862@smtps02.kuleuven.be> In-Reply-To: <20090323085031.52ABEF3862@smtps02.kuleuven.be> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 17:25:48 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8064.206 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8064.206 X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_FONT_FACE_BAD=0.452,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: definition of telegraphy Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003E_01C9ABDC.67FF28E0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_FONT_FACE_BAD, HTML_MESSAGE,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_003E_01C9ABDC.67FF28E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rik That's really good news .you see everyone complains how crude 'English' i= s .. but not in this case hihi Depending on your set up .. the mfsk systems look to give the best resul= ts and dont need a linear system=20 G ..=20 From: Rik Strobbe=20 Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 8:50 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: LF: definition of telegraphy Dear all, in Belgium we have access to 500kHz since about 1 year. Conditions (limitations) are: - 501-504kHz - max. 5 W EIRP - only telegraphy - max. 100Hz bandwidth - only full license holders ITU Recommendation R V.662-3 defines telegraphy as "A form of telecommunicat= ion in which the transmitted information is intended to be recorded on arriv= al as a graphic document; the transmitted information may sometimes be prese= nted in an alternative form or may be stored for subsequent use.". So digita= l modes could be considered telegraphy and thus allowed on 500kHz. As we (UBA) reached the 500kHz access only after long negotiations with BIPT= (our Ofcom / FCC) we are very careful in what we do. Therefor we asked BIPT= if they would agree with our point of view. After internal (read BIPT legal department) consultation BIPT agreed with us= . So from now on we can use digital modes on 500kHz. The 100Hz bandwidth limit= ation is still in force, but there is plenty of digital modes that stay with= in this limit. 73, Rik ON7YD Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm for more inform= ation.=20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.24/2018 - Release Date: 03/22/09 1= 7:51:00 ------=_NextPart_000_003E_01C9ABDC.67FF28E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Rik
 
That's really  good  news .you&nb= sp; see=20 everyone complains how crude 'English' is .. but not in this case=20 hihi
 
Depending on your  set up .. the = mfsk=20 systems look to  give the  best results and dont  need a line= ar=20 system
 
G ..

Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 8:50 AM
Subject: LF: definition of telegraphy

Dear all,

in Belgium we have access to 500kHz  si= nce=20 about 1 year.
Conditions (limitations) are:
- 501-504kHz
- max. 5 W= =20 EIRP
- only telegraphy
- max. 100Hz bandwidth
- only full license=20 holders
ITU Recommendation R V.662-3 defines telegraphy as "A form of=20 telecommunication in which the transmitted information is intended to be=20 recorded on arrival as a graphic document; the transmitted information may=20 sometimes be presented in an alternative form or may be stored for subsequen= t=20 use.". So digital modes could be considered telegraphy and thus allowed=20= on=20 500kHz.
As we (UBA) reached the 500kHz access only after long negotiation= s=20 with BIPT (our Ofcom / FCC) we are very careful in what we do. Therefor we a= sked=20 BIPT if they would agree with our point of view.
After internal (read BIP= T=20 legal department) consultation BIPT agreed with us.
So from now on we can= use=20 digital modes on 500kHz. The 100Hz bandwidth limitation is still in force, b= ut=20 there is plenty of digital modes that stay within this limit.

73,=20 Rik  ON7YD

Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.= be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm=20 for more information.


No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG -=20 www.avg.com
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------=_NextPart_000_003E_01C9ABDC.67FF28E0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da03.mx.aol.com (rly-da03.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.77]) by air-da10.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDA102-a5d49b44456239; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 18:19:20 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da03.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA035-a5d49b44456239; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 18:19:04 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LgRKS-0003Y3-6F for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 22:18:40 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LgRKR-0003Xu-M5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 22:18:39 +0000 Received: from smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk ([195.188.213.6]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LgRKQ-0003XS-8u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 22:18:39 +0000 Received: from [172.23.170.145] (helo=anti-virus03-08) by smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1LgRKM-00064O-7o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 22:18:34 +0000 Received: from [92.235.33.173] (helo=p4) by asmtp-out1.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1LgRKL-0006q3-KF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 22:18:33 +0000 Message-ID: <892948FBAAB84D3C9C48310A7EA05737@p4> From: "Mark" To: References: <0566EF6DE20B4249A3E74859BF9BA2C6@AGB> <9C03FBF153AB478A9B0DBC5580CF20D2@AGB> <28FA0F184B25444F8BA2F1EC5FC42C04@AGB> <006101c9a01b$0d14fc10$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <839B448A31F0490FAC0789261C271A6C@AGB> Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 22:18:33 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Ok so who missed this quick qsy ? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_006F_01C9A03B.D1710750" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.7 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_60_70, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_006F_01C9A03B.D1710750 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Graham, Not sure what u are referring to.... =20 The transmission that starts off a little unstable and ends up on 504.5 is S= M6BHZ in WSPR mode. I saw the same start-up frequency drift yesterday too. The signals in-band h= owever.. ??? regards Mark GM4ISM ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Graham=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 9:53 PM Subject: LF: Ok so who missed this quick qsy ?=20 Whilst watching Andys beacon ..... captured this ...=20 Oops a daisy seems to be the appropriate technical expression=20 (the wavy line is feature of the R5003)=20 1800 Hz =3D 504 Khz=20 >>> http://uk500khz.googlegroups.com/web/capt0903082130.jpg <<< http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/ufos-and-things-that-go-beep G ..=20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.9/1989 - Release Date: 03/07/09=20= 18:43:00 ------=_NextPart_000_006F_01C9A03B.D1710750 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Graham,
Not sure what u are referring to.... =20  
The transmission that starts off a little u= nstable=20 and ends up on 504.5 is SM6BHZ in WSPR mode.
I saw the same start-up frequency drift yes= terday=20 too. The signals in-band however.. ???
regards
Mark GM4ISM
----- Original Message -----
Graham
Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 9:53=20 PM
Subject: LF: Ok so who missed this=20= quick=20 qsy ?

Whilst watching Andys beacon ..... captur= ed this=20 ...
 
Oops a daisy seems to  be the=20  appropriate   technical expression
 
(the wavy line is feature of the R5003)=20
 
1800 Hz =3D 504 Khz
 
 
 
G ..


No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG -=20 www.avg.com
Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.9/1989 - Release= =20 Date: 03/07/09 18:43:00
------=_NextPart_000_006F_01C9A03B.D1710750-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh11.mx.aol.com (rly-mh11.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.147]) by air-mh07.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMH072-61a49c018b41ce; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 17:40:23 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh11.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH117-61a49c018b41ce; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 17:40:07 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ljh0b-0007KZ-MJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 21:39:37 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ljh0b-0007KQ-BS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 21:39:37 +0000 Received: from imr-d02.mx.aol.com ([205.188.157.40]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ljh0Y-0002y7-N7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 21:39:37 +0000 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imr-d02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id l.c42.488343d0 (34983) for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 17:38:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Black (g229165095.adsl.alicedsl.de [92.229.165.95]) by cia-da08.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILCIADA088-88a749c0185e3dc; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 17:38:39 -0400 Message-ID: <09D7DB9537774AB5A6A57D13F7F5FCCC@Black> From: "Markus Vester" To: Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 22:38:37 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16480 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16669 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: XKO and XGJ in Bavaria Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0011_01C9A751.1D1B2E80" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C9A751.1D1B2E80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Dex and Warren, last night, XKO and XGJ were also strong at this end of the world... http://freenet-homepage.de/df6nm/TA/testTA0903170400.png 73 de Markus, DF6NM ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C9A751.1D1B2E80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Dex and Warren,
 
last night, XKO and XGJ were also strong at= this=20 end of the world...
 
73 de Markus, DF6NM
 
------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C9A751.1D1B2E80-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me08.mx.aol.com (rly-me08.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.42]) by air-me04.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME042-9cf49cf8f8f226; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 11:11:27 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me08.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME083-9cf49cf8f8f226; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 11:11:14 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LnweE-0002wq-Je for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 16:10:06 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LnweE-0002wh-3v for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 16:10:06 +0100 Received: from smtp813.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.73]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LnweC-000201-Mi for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 16:10:06 +0100 Received: (qmail 50491 invoked from network); 29 Mar 2009 15:09:58 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=jX2g9lN4OkaOxwGA2qfMJL4NOARAR0S4dRg0VyxXnPq8tZr21zj7PIlhbnpTXmz9Cv13xT3gi99OgqD4YCA5XCr8/zSZYatHPpqhqq45vY84TUXqt1jb1AU0/GKRTmdfNnrTZ0lPxim2Beq0Wh1QPbCpxa/xdHXkfwTXuL9rMUo= ; Received: from unknown (HELO Lark) (alan.melia@213.122.29.38 with login) by smtp813.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Mar 2009 15:09:57 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 57SuJAQVM1n.cZnW5KVo5E7EZkAJDZtpyrbQ8sCWXdz3f0oZhdkZi4bzdYXDpBRxpQOY9a1FRSb834QqksuoD15YZCCdIJLWiE_54plrZZKp8uSCw1hTsFPpd.47qkSjVvwQA6LJHJDMsM6wrRZnApceKtzS02Ztmap6Dt8eSzbcH_LmAIVR6vvmdIoA8SxbhvIIa3Je1jMFA1MMETR7FrzFR2Trt4zt7mUS X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <006b01c9b080$7127b560$0900a8c0@AM> From: "Alan Melia" To: Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 16:05:20 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Fw: EI--- 500khz permit applications Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael J. Probert" To: "Alan Melia" Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 3:32 PM Subject: FW: EI--- 500khz permit applications Hello Alan, The LF reflector does not seem to accept my posting. Could you kindly forward please? Best regards Mike. _______________________________ From: Michael Probert GW4HXO [mailto:mikegw4hxo@solva.co.uk] Sent: 29 March 2009 14:57 To: 'owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org' Subject: EI--- 500khz permit applications Hello All, It was announced on the IRTS news today that applications for operation on the 500khz "Band" are now being invited. No specification has yet been posted. Permits will be limited. Best regards Mike GW4HXO From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md05.mx.aol.com (rly-md05.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.143]) by air-md03.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMD032-90849c023b7d9; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 18:27:10 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md05.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD058-90849c023b7d9; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 18:27:05 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LjhkE-0008Fr-9I for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 22:26:46 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LjhkD-0008Fi-Q4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 22:26:45 +0000 Received: from mout2.freenet.de ([195.4.92.92]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LjhkB-0003GS-Qx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 22:26:45 +0000 Received: from [195.4.92.23] (helo=13.mx.freenet.de) by mout2.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID beckmann.erlangen@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #76) id 1LjhkA-0001oo-2x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 23:26:42 +0100 Received: from w1c54.w.pppool.de ([89.58.28.84]:1391 helo=2a2d7ed321c6425) by 13.mx.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID beckmann.erlangen@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #76) id 1Ljhk9-0003Mg-Ly for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 23:26:42 +0100 From: "Beckmann, Gerhard" To: References: <005501c9a73b$dd0b8ac0$6401a8c0@asus> <007901c9a74b$9e595450$6401a8c0@asus> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 23:26:39 +0100 Message-ID: <66041B03F81A45649EE247A427F62B69@2a2d7ed321c6425> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: AcmnQGpNLR16XYh4TuCtDgP6Dpa1XwAB4GUQAAGZ+eA= In-Reply-To: <007901c9a74b$9e595450$6401a8c0@asus> X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: LF: Good copy of GI4DPE in Normal CW Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0067_01C9A757.D3EC6C90" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=5.0 tests=HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN, HTML_MESSAGE,UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0067_01C9A757.D3EC6C90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello LF, MF Good readability of normal CW-signals from GI4DPE in JN59LN (about 549 !!) GI4DPE is in QSO with G3GNR. (No copy of G3GNR in JN59LN, sri ) vy 73 de Gerhard / DK6NI (JN59LN) ========================= ------=_NextPart_000_0067_01C9A757.D3EC6C90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello LF, MF

 

Good readabilit= y of normal CW-signals from GI4DPE in JN59LN (about 549= !!)

GI4DPE is in QS= O with G3GNR.

(No copy of G3G= NR in JN59LN, sri )

 

vy 73 de Gerhard  /=    DK6NI   (JN59LN)

 =

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------=_NextPart_000_0067_01C9A757.D3EC6C90-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg10.mx.aol.com (rly-mg10.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.116]) by air-mg02.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG023-a3949a9fd50193; Sat, 28 Feb 2009 22:13:38 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG103-a3949a9fd50193; Sat, 28 Feb 2009 22:13:22 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ldc6f-0002Zj-QL for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 03:12:45 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ldc6f-0002Za-9H for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 03:12:45 +0000 Received: from vms173003pub.verizon.net ([206.46.173.3]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ldc6e-0002Hc-Ao for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 03:12:45 +0000 Received: from DR2 ([71.184.212.10]) by vms173003.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KFT00FAW4WUJJBU@vms173003.mailsrvcs.net> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Feb 2009 21:12:31 -0600 (CST) Message-id: <5CBFF239A1B3472FB662FAA251A3C943@DR2> From: "dave.riley3" To: Cc: "600MRG" References: <20090125092908.0aec06a4@lurcher> <7EC707A6E2D94414AEBBC52C6159581C@JimPC> Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 22:12:29 -0500 MIME-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36 Subject: LF: Saturday night 'G' watering hole on 600M... 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TNX Dave @ WD2XSH/17 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg07.mx.aol.com (rly-dg07.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.91]) by air-dg03.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDG032-5d849b405621c8; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 13:50:45 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg07.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG071-5d849b405621c8; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 13:50:28 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LgN8W-0008MK-Vh for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 17:50:04 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LgN8W-0008MB-5t for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 17:50:04 +0000 Received: from mout1.freenet.de ([195.4.92.91]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LgN8U-0006ia-Je for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 17:50:04 +0000 Received: from [195.4.92.14] (helo=4.mx.freenet.de) by mout1.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID beckmann.erlangen@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #76) id 1LgN8S-0003d5-Hj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 18:50:00 +0100 Received: from w276a.w.pppool.de ([89.58.39.106]:1295 helo=2a2d7ed321c6425) by 4.mx.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID beckmann.erlangen@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #79) id 1LgN8M-0002Rm-9h for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 18:50:00 +0100 From: "Beckmann, Gerhard" To: References: <0566EF6DE20B4249A3E74859BF9BA2C6@AGB> <9C03FBF153AB478A9B0DBC5580CF20D2@AGB> <28FA0F184B25444F8BA2F1EC5FC42C04@AGB> Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 18:49:54 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: Acmf+6bAXkr7prYwTBOMEnXRFnFQ1gAFJHsg X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: AW: LF: AW: 503.7 Multi-function beacon ... Its working ! Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01C9A01E.AE9AE6A0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C9A01E.AE9AE6A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Graham, =20 Thank you for your statement! Well actually, especially Scattergram or equal measurement methods would be of interest regarding the aspect of signal path monitoring. (direct wave / sky wave via cross correlation of pulse delay values). However, the aspect of interferences by using 500us pulses has to be taken into consideration but may be there are coming up suitable solution by the LF-group.=20 Another method of monitoring the signal path on 500 kHz could possibly performed by using the =93PSK Sounder=94 software from ZL2AFP. And what I sa= w on a first glance it should be usable for transmission and reception in order to monitor the signal path situation. =20 By the way:=20 Do you know if Andy is continuing the Multi-function beaconing on 503.7 kHz? In this case I would try long term signal monitoring by GB3RAL.exe and PSK message decoding within the next evening sessions. =20 vy 73 de Gerhard / DK6NI =20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D =20 =20 =20 _____ =20 Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von Graham Gesendet: Sonntag, 8. M=E4rz 2009 15:36 An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Betreff: Re: LF: AW: 503.7 Multi-function beacon ... Its working ! =20 Hi, Grerhard, =20 Andy's post about the new beacon came out of the blue, (as is the signal hihi), Working on this, I've simply added a page to the uk500khz news group and posted links about to generate some interest and make sure the beacon details are known to hams and swl's out side this reflector ..=20 =20 The only thing that occurs to me is that there is a possibility for reception reports to be directed to the 5 meg group , I note that the graph generator by G4IRX requests your call and locator before processing the file and presenting you with a plot. so I will see if anything can be done to prevent this , the data format is of course distorted by having only one active beacon.. so it will show up .. but may as yet be unexpected ....! =20 I note from previous email that the pulse aspect of the beacon is required for precise measurements, I think that may be possible to set up a 'experiment' but the aspect of interference to other users may be significant, Andy has referred to the concept of 'phase reversal' in a continues carrier system (or medium pulse ?) that would perhaps be a acceptable mode of modulation, weather it could be transmitted by a 'normal' transmitter im note sure , but its worth noting that activities on 500, to date are not 'funded' as such and time and capital out lay are part of the 'hobby' and such hardware requirements and software re-writes are beyond many of the active stations. but perhaps as interest spreads .. things may change ..?=20 =20 Tnx-=20 =20 Graham =20 G0NBD IO83LK =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 From: Beckmann, Gerhard=20 Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 11:06 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Cc: 'Robert Hemesley'=20 Subject: LF: AW: 503.7 Multi-function beacon ... Its working ! =20 Hello Graham, Hello Andy,=20 =20 reading about your activities concerning Multi-function beacon I tried yesterday evening to catch your signals, but unfortunately with no results copying your sig. May be condx were not good enough. Moreover I had some bad manmade QRM from TV and PC. =20 As Rob Hemesley told you I am active in 5-MHz-beaco- monitoring specially concerning scattergram monitoring in order to analyse signal path situation (direct wave / sky wave behaviour). But I am running both analysis software, GB3RAL.exe and Scattergram.exe and it would not be any problem to modify the internal PC-clock specially regarding GB3RAL.exe in order to analyse the long term signal level of your Multi-function beacon. So I will try to continue monitoring your Multi-function beacon hopefully that condx will be better in the next evening sessions (hi). If there will be Scattergram acties in future I certainly need some more dB signal level, but it would be very interesting to investigate the signal path situation. Of course, this is more interesting for those participants who are located in a distance range between 150 and 300 km in order to monitor the slide crossover from direct wave to sky wave signal path.=20 However, thank you very much for implementation of your very interesting Multi-function beacon project and I will keep on running my monitoring activities and will inform you in any case about further results. =20 vy 73 and a lot of success by running Multi-function beacons, I will be =93o= n the qui vive=94 !!! =20 de Gerhard / DK6NI (JN59LN) =20 By the way:=20 Dial frequency 505.2 kHz, is that o.k.? (because GB3RAL.exe is decoding with 1500 Hz too). For BPSK31-decoding I am using DigiPan Vers.2.0 =20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =20 =20 =20 _____ =20 Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von Graham Gesendet: Samstag, 7. M=E4rz 2009 23:46 An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Betreff: LF: 503.7 Multi-function beacon ... Its working ! =20 So far so good .. quite a step up in signal round 2100 hrs =20 no frequency decode before then , 15 db over noise at 2130 =20 but a trend showing=20 about 1 hour slow qsb=20 =20 any other reports ? =20 G ..=20 =20 _____ =20 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.9/1988 - Release Date: 03/06/09 19:17:00 ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C9A01E.AE9AE6A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Graham,

 

Thank you for your statement!

Well actually, especially Scattergram or equal measur= ement methods would be of interest regarding the aspect of signal path monitoring. (direct wave / sky wave via cross correlation of pulse delay values).

However, the aspect of interferences by using 500us p= ulses has to be taken into consideration but may be there are coming up suitable solution= by the LF-group.

Another method of monitoring the signal path on 500 k= Hz could possibly performed by using the “PSK Sounder” software from ZL2A= FP. And what I saw on a first glance it should be usable for transmission and reception in order to monitor the signal path situation.

 

By the way:

Do you know if Andy is continuing the Multi-function=20= beaconing on 503.7 kHz?

In this case I would try long term signal monitoring=20= by GB3RAL.exe and PSK message decoding within the next evening sessions.=

 

vy 73 de Gerhard / DK6NI

 

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

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Von:= owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g] Im Auftrag von Graham
Gesendet: Sonntag, 8. M=E4rz=20= 2009 15:36
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Betreff: Re: LF: AW: 503.7 Multi-function beacon ... Its working !

 

Hi, Grerhard,

 

Andy's post about the  new beacon came out of= the  blue, (as is the signal hihi), Working on this,  I've simply added a pa= ge to the  uk500khz news group and posted links about to  generate so= me interest and make sure the beacon details are known to hams and sw= l's out side this reflector ..

 

The only thing that occurs to  me is that the= re is a possibility for reception reports to be  directed to the 5 meg group ,=20= I note that the  graph generator by G4IRX  requests your call and lo= cator  before processing the file and presenting you with a plot. so I will see if anything can be done to  prevent this , the data format is of course distorted by having only one active beacon.. so it will show up .. but may a= s yet be unexpected ...!

 

I note from previous email that the pulse aspect o= f the  beacon is required for precise measurements, I think that may be possible to set up a 'experiment'  but the aspect of interference to&nb= sp; other users may be significant, Andy has referred to the concept of 'phase reversal' in a continues carrier system (or medium pulse ?) that would perha= ps be a acceptable mode of modulation, weather it could be transmitted by a 'normal' transmitter im note sure , but its worth noting that activities on 500, to date  are not 'funded' as such and time and capital out lay are part of the 'hobby' and such hardware requirements  and software re-wri= tes are beyond many of the active stations. but perhaps as interest spreads ... things may change ..?

 

Tnx-

 

Graham

 

G0NBD

IO83LK

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 11:06 AM

Subject: LF: AW: 503.7 Multi-function beacon ... Its working !

 

Hello Graham, Hello Andy,

 

reading about your activities conc= erning Multi-function beacon I tried yesterday evening to catch your signals, but unfortunately with no results copying your sig. May be condx were not good enough.  Moreover I had some bad manmade QRM from TV and PC.=

 

      As=20= Rob Hemesley told you I am active in 5-MHz-beaco- monitoring specially concerning  scattergram monitoring in order to analyse signal path situation (direct wav= e / sky wave behaviour).

      But= I am running both analysis software, GB3RAL.exe and Scattergram.exe and it would not be any problem to modify the internal PC-clock specially regarding GB3RAL.exe in or= der to analyse the long term signal level of your Multi-function beacon. So I wi= ll try to continue monitoring your Multi-function beacon hopefully that condx w= ill be better in the next evening sessions (hi).

      If=20= there will be Scattergram acties in future I certainly need some more dB signal level, but= it would be very interesting to investigate the signal path situation.

      Of=20= course, this is more interesting for those participants who are located in a distance range between 150 and 300 km in order to monitor the slide crossover from direct w= ave to sky wave signal path.

      &nb= sp;However, thank you very much for implementation of your very interesting Multi-function bea= con project and I will keep on running my monitoring activities and will inform=20= you in any case about further results.

 

vy 73 and a lot of success by runn= ing Multi-function beacons, I will be “on the qui vive” !!!

 

de Gerhard  /  DK6NI&nbs= p; (JN59LN)

 

By the way:

Dial frequency 505.2 kHz, is that=20= o.k.? (because GB3RAL.exe is decoding with 1500 Hz too).

For BPSK31-decoding I am using Dig= iPan Vers.2.0

 

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

 

 

 

Von:= owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g] Im Auftrag von Graham
Gesendet: Samstag, 7. M=E4rz=20= 2009 23:46
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Betreff: LF: 503.7 Multi-func= tion beacon ... Its working !

 

So far so good .. quite a step up in signal round=20= 2100 hrs 

no frequency decode before then , 15 db over noise= at 2130

 

but a trend showing

about  1 hour slow qsb

 

any other reports ?

 

G ..

 


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------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C9A01E.AE9AE6A0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd05.mx.aol.com (rly-dd05.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.152]) by air-dd06.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDD061-b7b49c1631d3a0; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 17:10:15 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd05.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD055-b7b49c1631d3a0; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 17:09:51 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lk316-0003N5-23 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:09:36 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lk315-0003Mw-Hw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:09:35 +0000 Received: from mail-fx0-f174.google.com ([209.85.220.174]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lk312-0001N3-GC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:09:35 +0000 Received: by fxm22 with SMTP id 22so263579fxm.4 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 14:09:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=w3Bo8srPEx3mGVbpNkXoiVW04THnv9zXdoX27I0t9Gw=; b=eJWIjMwBKj80Qbl267KW0AkkBnsRlFaCa9xkx6J82KF44W+KwmtERaZxzk2Vkxt1O5 Ch9TRT9MG5cHcLsMhxPp4HF8jtVXf/0+OyZrKDkJHV1TI8sbE56qE4w/1aXHvWUBQR8o nkXUwoofWofTOhu8LxmADffbgl2J/WtgP2LGc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=xOcDDO771GQZmXKlJP+R4HP2hIKfjy5mZ43BXLtjQxAn/O+vbz3yTqfdY88fzRaSdm ZTQYt32IONAYS8PfqUMt+8H7GfQvuqAQVVzSmg5mfSlo9oL0xQQ7xcVAFeflLbgUrtLZ 01EBrlHfc8Wn1X+ciCFVNBwKm/W4aPDBVaz3U= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.116.212 with SMTP id n20mr548831bkq.138.1237410565272; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 14:09:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20090318215906.vn1zu4jium1w08cc@webmail4.kuleuven.be> References: <009001c9a588$7eb02c60$6401a8c0@asus> <916F3329CAA846A19B450540FCC7E0AB@AGB> <20090318215906.vn1zu4jium1w08cc@webmail4.kuleuven.be> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:09:25 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software QQQ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d999da2f335304656b19e1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d295.2 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --0016e6d999da2f335304656b19e1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes. All it does is measure the total signal within the 25 - 30 second. You could transmit for the entire one minute and it would still give the same reading. But avoid the preceding minute though, that's when the noise measurement is made. http://www.g4jnt.com/PCBCN.zip will do the job if you can keep the PC clock accurately set, eg from an internet sync site Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/3/18 Rik Strobbe > Hello Andy, > > if I got it right the RX software will make a correct measurent as long as > the signal is there during the 5 second period, even if the transmission > start a few seconds early and stops a few seconds late ? > That would make timing far less critical and it would be possible to use my > QRS software (eg. sending an "E" at 10 seconds dotlength). > > 73, Rik ON7YD > > Quoting Andy Talbot : > > No it uses the average power over the 5 second period. You could always >> start it 1s early and stop 1s later >> Andy G4JNT >> www.g4jnt.com >> >> >> 2009/3/18 Graham >> >> Andy, >>> >>> Q .. If the tx is keyed by vox/breakin will the slight clipping of >>> the leading edge of the beacon cause time problems ?? >>> reason being .. if use force 'tx' will miss the beacon rx windows ?? >>> >>> Tnx- G .. >>> >>> *From:* Andy Talbot >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 17, 2009 4:27 PM >>> *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>> *Subject:* Re: LF: RE: Syncback software >>> >>> That should have read http://www.g4jnt.com/PCBCN.zip >>> >>> Andy G4JNT >>> www.g4jnt.com >>> >>> >>> 2009/3/17 Andy Talbot >>> >>> Try http://www.g4jnt.com/beacons.htm and go to PCBCN at the bottom >>>> or directly >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>> Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.16/2006 - Release Date: >>> 03/17/09 >>> 07:23:00 >>> >>> >>> >> > > > Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm > > > --0016e6d999da2f335304656b19e1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Yes.=A0
=A0
All it does is measure the total signal within the 25 - 30 second.=A0 Y= ou could transmit for the entire one minute and it would still give the same= reading.=A0=A0
=A0
But avoid the preceding minute though, that's when the noise measur= ement is made.
=A0
=A0http://www.g4jnt.com/PCBC= N.zip=A0 will do the job if you can keep the PC clock accurately set, eg= from an internet sync site

Andy =A0G4JNT
www= .g4jnt.com


2009/3/18 Rik Strobbe <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>= ;
Hello Andy,

if I got it rig= ht the RX software will make a correct measurent as long as the signal is th= ere during the 5 second period, even if the transmission start a few seconds= early and stops a few seconds late ?
That would make timing far less critical and it would be possible to use my=20= QRS software (eg. sending an "E" at 10 seconds dotlength).

= 73, Rik =A0ON7YD=20


Quoting Andy Talbot <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>:
<= br>
No it uses the average power over the 5 second period.=20= =A0 You could always
start it 1s early and stop 1s later
Andy =A0G4JNT=
www.g4jnt.com

2009/3/18 Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>

=A0Andy,

Q .. If the =A0tx is keyed by vox/breakin=20= =A0 =A0will the slight =A0clipping of
the =A0leading edge of the =A0beaco= n =A0cause time problems ??
reason being =A0.. if use force 'tx'=20= will miss the =A0beacon rx windows ??

Tnx- G ..

=A0*From:* Andy Talbot <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>*Sent:* Tuesday, March 17, 2009 4:27 PM=20

*To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
*Subject:* Re: LF: RE:= Syncback software

That should have read http://www.g4jnt.com/PCBCN.zip

Andy =A0G4JNT
www= .g4jnt.com


2009/3/17 Andy Talbot <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>
Try http://www.g4jnt.com/beacons.htm =A0=20= =A0and go to =A0PCBCN at the bottom
=A0or directly

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--0016e6d999da2f335304656b19e1-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da08.mx.aol.com (rly-da08.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.82]) by air-da03.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA034-a8349ca4780296; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 11:02:43 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da08.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA083-a8349ca4780296; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 11:02:25 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LmUcH-0000Em-4w for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:02:05 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LmUcG-0000Ed-OZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:02:04 +0000 Received: from relay.pcl-ipout01.plus.net ([212.159.7.99]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LmUcF-0007Ot-Hm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:02:04 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AjQOAAvkyUnUnw6S/2dsb2JhbACBSoheg2vEM4N1Bg Received: from ptb-relay02.plus.net ([212.159.14.146]) by relay.pcl-ipout01.plus.net with ESMTP; 25 Mar 2009 15:00:58 +0000 Received: from [212.159.90.113] (helo=Hugh) by ptb-relay02.plus.net with smtp (Exim) id 1LmUbB-0007uu-Hd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:00:57 +0000 Message-ID: <86B4F549F8F247DDA470143B3BE77364@Hugh> From: "Hugh_m0wye" To: References: Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:00:50 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Plusnet-Relay: 23843678ecf466f75e4f9af95ab5e3cd X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36 Subject: LF: Re: TDA2003, TDA2030 for PA? Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 I successfully made a TDA2030 amplifier which i used for all my intial experimenting on 137kHz Photo http://www.m0wye.radiouk.com/lfamp.jpg The data sheet for this IC claims a bandwidth of 140kHz so it won't work on 500kHz. I think I got about 6Watts out. Not all the audio ICs have as much bandwidth as this. You need a matching circuit on the output to convert the low impedance of the amp to 50 ohms - or whatever your antenna system uses. 73 Hugh M0WYE ----- Original Message ----- From: "Petr Malý" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 1:38 PM Subject: LF: TDA2003, TDA2030 for PA? Hi all, My intention is to build a small transmitter up to some 10W for 136 and 505 kHz, this time not the D class, but B or AB class. I think of employing AF amplifiers such as TDA2003, TDA2030, or similar. Of course, mainly 505 kHz is rather out of range so that nothing is guaranteed. This is why I ask before experimenting. Did anybody try to use these for 136/505 kHz? Tks, 73, Petr, OK!FIG http://ok1fig.nagano.cz From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc08.mx.aol.com (rly-dc08.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.37]) by air-dc04.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDC042-b3849b224ce14d; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 02:40:19 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc08.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC084-b3849b224ce14d; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 02:40:00 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lfr80-0000Rm-2u for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 07:39:24 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lfr7z-0000Rd-Kq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 07:39:23 +0000 Received: from psmtp09.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.23]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lfr7z-0000x7-1R for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 07:39:23 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp09.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KG400GL2L9HY0@psmtp09.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 08:39:17 +0100 (MET) Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2009 08:39:09 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <5FDEEB9D3CEC45E29426984CA7DC6C15@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 184khz Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_8Y8GpZGamAmVPGP+OXyCHg)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_8Y8GpZGamAmVPGP+OXyCHg) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Hi lf, nil for Joe, henny cpm 73s --Boundary_(ID_8Y8GpZGamAmVPGP+OXyCHg) Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
Hi lf,
nil for Joe,
henny cpm
73s
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Jean Pierre thanks for your reports enjoy your "holiday" Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean-Pierre Méré (F1AFJ)" To: Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 8:27 AM Subject: LF: AFJ 's Grabber closed ! Hello LF , The grabber will be closed for a few times, two reasons with that : 1/ by carrying out my tests of TXing I “killed” my preamplifier of the K9AY , 2/ I leave in the south for two weeks , I will see all that on my return ! 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (rly-dd01.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.148]) by air-dd03.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDD032-b5849bfcf63205; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 12:28:15 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD012-b5849bfcf63205; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 12:27:17 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ljc7g-0003sv-FM for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 16:26:36 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ljc7f-0003sm-3M for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 16:26:35 +0000 Received: from mail-bw0-f171.google.com ([209.85.218.171]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ljc7c-0003Uo-S5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 16:26:35 +0000 Received: by bwz19 with SMTP id 19so160894bwz.4 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 09:26:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=WYVt1JnCtEpdZg4FggSH0e6JjuicYHttZP7gO+X7qcI=; b=paanBK5cmjdduOEvGnPkZZFivipEaGNehtA9Hvj/4/g6GH/PVnJTnHcZlcPV35tryN rBGhd70EutijU3CW1fPWrixjgqZHN+6D6VLx+y+xpbxHL3UI/s0cU3aqK7obcKgIidqY YGdKYTroBLGPZeYs48R+14NTPIz5g4OH8uuYg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=q5im7nhueZB1yGDt60bfQA3riYUaDJIFbvaBRFrtHBQZ5ydDoRFm635omV8YsHvsyx 50d0GSp1/lyxIjU9c6ZFLdO2T4nS3ifYFvuzIoibaPEjOWfkCibvaH9yvET3Cw/n0163 s95CiyMXPowHRLkSnOYDuv+dU22KsnnMCk5bI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.60.194 with SMTP id q2mr53345bkh.150.1237307187233; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 09:26:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <009001c9a588$7eb02c60$6401a8c0@asus> <001e01c9a665$ebeac870$6401a8c0@asus> <00be01c9a66e$c8bfdbc0$0900a8c0@AM> <004a01c9a677$2a8b48a0$6401a8c0@asus> <005101c9a679$df148f50$6401a8c0@asus> <916F3329CAA846A19B450540FCC7E0AB@AGB> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 16:26:27 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5a6b85f825b046553074c X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNSAFE,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m215.1 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --001636c5a6b85f825b046553074c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Try http://www.g4jnt.com/beacons.htm and go to PCBCN at the bottom or directly http://www.g4jnt.com/beacons.htm/PCBCN.zip This little prog has been there for some time, mostly forgotton, and I've just made a quickie mod to allow seconds into the offset as well as minutes.= . But, it relies ONLY ON THE PC's INTERNAL CLOCK which must be kept synchronised to within a second, somehow. Use : Interval =3D 15 Offset =3D 5 or 6 Mins and 25 secs, Duration =3D 5. No guarantees, so watch it for a bit and don't trust for 86400/365.2422 operation until fully proven. (Midnight rollover has never been tested in anger) VB6 source code included for info. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/3/17 Graham > Ok Andy > > Easily ... that's the problem hihi .. > > Is there anyone tuned in who could write a short code to say ,select > the com port, time slot and key the com port ? , That way any simple cw=20= tx > could be used , as not every one can translate from audio to rf on 500 o= r > 137 ! > > Thanks > > Graham ,, > > *From:* Andy Talbot > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 17, 2009 7:55 AM > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > *Subject:* Re: LF: RE: Syncback software > > Easily, all you need is a five second transmission of carrier at xx:05:25 > xx:20:25 etc > But accurate timing to at least one second accuracy is essential, so the P= C > clock will have to be set continuously. > > Andy G4JNT > www.g4jnt.com > > > 2009/3/16 Graham > >> Andy, >> >> Is there any way the slots could be filled using a pc ... ? if a small >> exe could be run to make a cw pulse then that would be no problem ? >> >> G .. >> >> *From:* Andy Talbot >> *Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2009 9:36 PM >> *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> *Subject:* Re: LF: RE: Syncback software >> >> See you just have - got quite a shock until I realised the noise had >> plummeted as well. >> Any takers for the 5 and 6 minute slots? >> >> Andy G4JNT >> www.g4jnt.com >> >> >> 2009/3/16 Gary - G4WGT >> >>> *Andy,* >>> >>> ** >>> >>> *OK, I will insert an attenuator at the antenna socket (that=92s an easy >>> move) & watch how it performs. It is switched at 10dB steps so I will st= art >>> at 10db of course.* >>> >>> ** >>> >>> *Cheers,* >>> >>> ** >>> >>> *Gary.* >>> >>> ** >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> *From:* owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto: >>> owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] *On Behalf Of *Andy Talbot >>> *Sent:* 16 March 2009 20:45 >>> >>> *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>> *Subject:* Re: LF: RE: Syncback software >>> >>> >>> >>> Doesn't matter which - just total system gain. That S/W works best if >>> the noise threshold rides at about 10dB above the baseline, then it all= ows >>> for up to 70 - 80dB of signal peaks. >>> >>> >>> Andy G4JNT >>> www.g4jnt.com >>> >>> 2009/3/16 Gary - G4WGT >>> >>> Alan, >>> >>> When you wrote :- >>> >>> my only comment is that you may have too much gain in the system. >>> >>> Are you meaning sound card or receiver gain? >>> >>> Gary. >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>> >>> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Alan Melia >>> Sent: 16 March 2009 19:38 >>> >>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>> Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software >>> >>> Hi Gary my only comment is that you may have too much gain in the system= . >>> It >>> is sometimes better to have the noise further down nearer the axis. >>> >>> I am afraid there is a major problem with this kind of beacon, when the >>> fading period is shorter than the sampling interval, so you dont really >>> know >>> what the path is doing. The only reliable points are the peaks, the >>> troughs >>> dont really mean anything without some very sophisticated analysis and >>> probably two spaced receivers. However it does give a snapshot of the >>> band >>> without taking up too much bandwidth (this was what was required for 5MH= z >>> too). Despite all the data collected very little analysis has actually b= e >>> done on the 5MHz data collected by this program. The one succesfull bit >>> of >>> work was that published in Radcom by Marcis Walden G0IJZ. I used it for >>> some >>> time whilst Andy was testing the Poldhu beacon on 160m and also during >>> the >>> 1st two months that ran. I was certainly surprised by the daytime path o= n >>> 160m from here. I have seen the data collected in Canada via Joe Craig >>> VO1NA >>> and it is difficult to see how to use it. >>> >>> Still if you dont collect the data you will never know!! >>> >>> Alan G3NYK >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Gary - G4WGT" >>> To: >>> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 6:35 PM >>> Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software >>> >>> >>> > Hi Graham, LF, >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > The original HTML Code for the 2 minute refresh is still inserted into >>> the >>> > page format, so upload is 30 minute intervals with Syncback & 2 minute >>> > refresh. I have left the refresh in case I revert back to the original >>> > grabber page. I will look at changing it if I continue to use the >>> beacon >>> > chart upload. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > I would like to have feedback from the LF group regarding the page, if >>> you >>> > check it out periodically, is it useful to you, what are you looking >>> for. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > You can view the chart on my web site at :- >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > 73 >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Gary - G4WGT. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > _____ >>> > >>> > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>> > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham >>> > Sent: 16 March 2009 17:20 >>> > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>> > Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Hi Gary, >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > The page seemed to refresh quite often ... are there two settings ? >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > G .. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > From: Gary - G4WGT >>> > >>> > Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:40 AM >>> > >>> > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>> > >>> > Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Hi Graham, LF, >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > You wrote :- >>> > >>> > >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute >>> > intervals. <<< that could be backed off to 15 mins as the beacon only >>> > sends every 15 ?? >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > I mentioned in my previous mail to ignore the text on the page as it >>> was >>> > originally for grabber 1 for when I upgrade the web site (to a new >>> design >>> & >>> > better navigation etc), also mentioned is that upload is every 30 >>> minutes. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > If the uploaded chart proves useful or interesting to operators & >>> viewers >>> > then I will change the text & make it a permanent feature for the >>> > foreseeable future. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > BTW :- >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > For those of you who are not familiar with the chart - >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > The RED trace is Andy's (G4JNT) beacon signal & the BLACK trace is the >>> noise >>> > level at my QTH. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > The Blue & GREEN are not in use & should be ignored on this chart as >>> they >>> > are for the other beacons used when monitoring on the 5MHz allocation.= . >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Cheers, >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Gary - G4WGT >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > _____ >>> > >>> > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>> > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham >>> > Sent: 15 March 2009 22:17 >>> > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>> > Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Gary.. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > That looks good ... 0500 looks best time for a qso .. see you then >>> Smile >>> > emoticon >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute >>> > intervals. <<< that could be backed off to 15 mins as the beacon only >>> > sends every 15 ?? >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > the 15 db over the noise in day time is the same at this qth .. look= s >>> like >>> > the big dips round 1900 where just when we where testing .. typical >>> hihi >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > tnx- G .. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > From: Gary - G4WGT >>> > >>> > Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 7:55 PM >>> > >>> > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>> > >>> > Subject: LF: RE: Syncback software >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > LF, >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > I have now got the software, Syncback running correctly (I think). >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > The purpose of this is to upload the chart from Andy's beacon as >>> received >>> > here to my web site periodically, ie. every 30 minutes. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > I now have a receiver running 24/7 monitoring Andy,s beacon on >>> 503.7KHz. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > You can view the chart on my web site at :- >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > For the moment ignore the text on the page as it is originally designe= d >>> to >>> > use with the 500KHz grabber when I renew my web site design. If it is=20= a >>> > useful upload I will make it a permanent feature but may have to exten= d >>> the >>> > frequency coverage of grabber 1 so not to overload the PC with >>> operations >>> > which will cause the PC to struggle. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Let me have your comments please. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > 73 >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Gary - G4WGT. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > _____ >>> > >>> > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>> > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT >>> > Sent: 15 March 2009 16:10 >>> > To: LF -RSGB LF Group >>> > Subject: LF: Syncback software >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Hi LF, >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > If anyone is using Syncback software & can help, please. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > I am tying to upload a file to my website who's filename does not >>> change, >>> > only the file size changes. I tried to do it with Argo-upload but >>> failed >>> so >>> > I downloaded Syncback & still failing. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Syncback gives me the following message :- >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > ********************************** >>> > >>> > Can connect, but unable to change to destination directory: >>> > >>> > /chart01.bmp:not a directory >>> > >>> > ********************************** >>> > >>> > The Syncback help does not give me the answer. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Any help will be appreciated >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Or >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Will Argo-Upload do it? >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Or >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Is there something else to do it? >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Thanks in anticipation, >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > 73, >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > _____ >>> > >>> > >>> > No virus found in this incoming message. >>> > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>> > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.13/2001 - Release Date: >>> 03/14/09 >>> > 06:54:00 >>> > >>> > _____ >>> > >>> > >>> > No virus found in this incoming message. >>> > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>> > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.15/2003 - Release Date: >>> 03/15/09 >>> > 14:07:00 >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.15/2004 - Release Date: 03/16/0= 9 >> 07:04:00 >> >> > ------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.16/2006 - Release Date: 03/17/09 > 07:23:00 > > --001636c5a6b85f825b046553074c Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Try http://www.g4jnt.com/b= eacons.htm=A0=A0=A0=A0and go to =A0PCBCN at the bottom
=A0
This little prog has been there for some time, mostly forgotton, and I&= #39;ve just=A0made a quickie mod to allow seconds into the offset as well as= minutes.
=A0
But, it relies ONLY ON THE PC's INTERNAL CLOCK=A0=A0 which must be=20= kept synchronised to within a second, somehow.
=A0
Use :
Interval=A0 =3D 15
Offset=A0 =3D 5 or 6 Mins and 25 secs,
Duration=A0 =3D 5.
=A0
No guarantees, so watch it for a bit and don't trust for=A0 86400/3= 65.2422 operation until fully proven.=A0
(Midnight rollover has never been tested in anger)
=A0
VB6 source code=A0included for info.
=A0

Andy =A0G4JNT
www= .g4jnt.com


2009/3/17 Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
Ok Andy
=A0
Easily ... that's the=A0 problem= =A0 hihi ..
=A0
Is there anyone tuned in who could writ= e a short code to say ,select the=A0com port, =A0time slot and =A0key the co= m port ?=A0, That way any simple cw tx could be used , as not every=A0 one c= an translate from audio to=A0 rf on 500 or 137 !
=A0
Thanks
=A0
Graham ,,

Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 7:55 AM
Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software

Easily, all you need is a five second transmission of carrier at xx:05:= 25 xx:20:25 etc
But accurate timing to at least one second accuracy is essential, so th= e PC clock will have to be set continuously.

Andy =A0G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com


2009/3/16 Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.u= k>
Andy,
=A0
Is there any way the=A0 slots could be=20= filled using a pc ... ? if a small exe could be run to=A0 make a cw=A0 pulse= then that would be no problem ?
=A0
G ..


See you just have - got quite a shock until I realised the noise had pl= ummeted as well.
Any takers for the 5 and 6 minute slots?
2009/3/16 Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk= >

Andy,

<= /b>=A0

OK, I will inse= rt an attenuator at the antenna socket (that=92s an easy move) & watch h= ow it performs. It is switched at 10dB steps so I will start at 10db of cour= se.

<= /b>=A0

Cheers,<= /font>

<= /b>=A0

Gary.

<= /b>=A0

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_= lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf=20= Of Andy Talbot
Sent: 16 March 2009 20:45=20


To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org
Subject: Re: LF:=20= RE: Syncback software

=A0

Doesn't matter which - just total system gain.=A0 That S/W works best i= f the noise threshold rides at about 10dB above the baseline,=A0 then it all= ows for up to 70 - 80dB of signal peaks.

<= span style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">
Andy =A0G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com

2009/3/16 Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>

Alan,

When you wrote :-

<= span style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">my only comment is that you may have too much= gain in the system.

Are you meaning sound card or receiver gain?

Gary.



-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<= /a>

[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Alan Melia
Sent= : 16 March 2009 19:38

<= span style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF= : RE: Syncback software

Hi Gary my only comment is that you may have too much gain in the system= . It
is sometimes better to have the noise further down nearer the axis..=

I am afraid there is a major problem with this kind of beacon, when=20= the
fading period is shorter than the sampling interval, so you dont really know=
what the path is doing. The only reliable points are the peaks, the trou= ghs
dont really mean anything without some very sophisticated analysis an= d
probably two spaced receivers. However it does give a snapshot of the bandwithout taking up too much bandwidth (this was what was required for 5MHz<= br>too). Despite all the data collected very little analysis has actually be=
done on the 5MHz data collected by this program. The one succesfull bit ofwork was that published in Radcom by Marcis Walden G0IJZ. I used it for so= me
time whilst Andy was testing the Poldhu beacon on 160m and also during= the
1st two months that ran. I was certainly surprised by the daytime path on160m from here. I have seen the data collected in Canada via Joe Craig VO1N= A
and it is difficult to see how to use it.

Still if you dont coll= ect the data you will never know!!

Alan G3NYK




----- Original Message -----
From: &quo= t;Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 6:35 PM
Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback softwa= re


> Hi Graham, LF,
>
>
>
> The origin= al HTML Code for the 2 minute refresh is still inserted into the
> pag= e format, so upload is 30 minute intervals with Syncback & 2 minute
> refresh. I have left the refresh in case I revert back to the original<= br>> grabber page. I will look at changing it if I continue to use the be= acon
> chart upload.
>
>
>
> I would like to h= ave feedback from the LF group regarding the page, if you
> check it out periodically, is it useful to you, what are you looking fo= r.
>
>
>
> You can view the chart on my web site at=20= :-
>
>
>
> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/g= rabber3.html
>
>
>
> 73
>
>
>
> Gary - G4WGT= .
>
>
>
>
>
> =A0 _____
>
>=20= From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham
&= gt; Sent: 16 March 2009 17:20
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software
>
>
>
>=20= Hi Gary,
>
>
>
> The page seemed to =A0refresh quite= often ... are there two settings ?
>
>
>
> G ..
>
>
>
> From: Gary - G4WGT <mailto:g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
><= br>> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:40 AM
>
> To: rsgb_lf_group@bla= cksheep.org
>
> Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software
>
>
><= br>> Hi Graham, LF,
>
>
>
> You wrote :-
><= br>> >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at=20= 2 minute
> intervals. <<< that could be backed off to =A015 mins as the b= eacon only
> sends every 15 ??
>
>
>
> I menti= oned in my previous mail to ignore the text on the page as it was
> or= iginally for grabber 1 for when I upgrade the web site (to a new design
&
> better navigation etc), also mentioned is that upload is every= 30 minutes.
>
>
>
> If the uploaded chart proves us= eful or interesting to operators & viewers
> then I will change th= e text & make it a permanent feature for the
> foreseeable future.
>
>
>
> BTW :-
>
&= gt;
>
> For those of you =A0who are not familiar with the chart=20= -
>
>
>
> The RED trace is Andy's (G4JNT) beacon= signal & the BLACK trace is the
noise
> level at my QTH.
>
>
>
> The Blue &= ; GREEN are not in use & should be ignored on this chart as they
>= are for the other beacons used when monitoring on the 5MHz allocation.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> Gary -=20= G4WGT
>
>
>
>
>
> =A0 _____
>
&= gt; From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham
&= gt; Sent: 15 March 2009 22:17
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software
>
>
>
>=20= Gary..
>
>
>
> That looks good =A0... 0500 looks bes= t time for a qso .. see you then Smile
> emoticon
>
>
>
> >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refres= h at 2 minute
> intervals. <<< that could be backed off to=20= =A015 mins as the beacon only
> sends every 15 ??
>
>
>
> the =A015 db over the noise in day time is the =A0same at this=20= qth .. looks
like
> the big dips round 1900 =A0where just when we w= here testing .. =A0typical hihi
>
>
>
> tnx- G .. >
>
>
> From: Gary - G4WGT <mailto:g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
><= br>> Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 7:55 PM
>
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksh= eep.org
>
> Subject: LF: RE: Syncback software
>
>
>
&= gt; LF,
>
>
>
> I have now got the software, Syncbac= k running correctly (I think).
>
>
>
> The purpose o= f this is to upload the chart from Andy's beacon as received
> here to my web site periodically, ie. every 30 minutes.
>
>=
>
> I now have a receiver running 24/7 monitoring Andy,s beacon= on 503.7KHz.
>
>
>
> You can view the chart on my w= eb site at :-
>
>
>
> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber= 3.html
>
>
>
> For the moment ignore the text on= the page as it is originally designed to
> use with the 500KHz grabber when I renew my web site design. If it is a=
> useful upload I will make it a permanent feature but may have to ex= tend
the
> frequency coverage of grabber 1 so not to overload the P= C with operations
> which will cause the PC to struggle.
>
>
>
> Le= t me have your comments please.
>
>
>
> 73
>>
>
> Gary - G4WGT.
>
>
>
> =A0 ___= __
>
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb= _lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT
> Sent: 15 March 2009 16:10
> To: LF -RSGB LF Group
> Subject= : LF: Syncback software
>
>
>
> Hi LF,
>
&g= t;
>
> If anyone is using Syncback software & can help, plea= se.
>
>
>
> I am tying to upload a file to my website who&#= 39;s filename does not change,
> only the file size changes. I tried t= o do it with Argo-upload but failed
so
> I downloaded Syncback &= ; still failing.
>
>
>
> Syncback gives me the following message :-
&= gt;
>
>
> **********************************
>
&g= t; Can connect, but unable to change to destination directory:
>
> /chart01.bmp:not a directory
>
> **************************= ********
>
> The Syncback help does not give me the answer.
&= gt;
>
>
> Any help will be appreciated
>
>
>
> Or
>
>
>
> Will Argo-Upload do it?
&= gt;
>
>
> Or
>
>
>
> Is there some= thing else to do it?
>
>
>
> Thanks in anticipation,=
>
>
>
> 73,
>
>
>
> Gary - G4WG= T - IO83QP.
>
>
>
> =A0 _____
>
>
>= ; No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.13/2001 - Release Date: 03/14= /09
> 06:54:00
>
> =A0 _____
>
>
> No vi= rus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.15/2003 - Release Date: 03/15= /09
> 14:07:00
>
>


=A0


<= /div>


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Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
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--001636c5a6b85f825b046553074c-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da05.mx.aol.com (rly-da05.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.79]) by air-da02.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDA022-a6e49bcd0cb232; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 05:56:52 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da05.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA056-a6e49bcd0cb232; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 05:56:30 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lin3z-0006BX-92 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 09:55:23 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lin3y-0006BO-Od for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 09:55:22 +0000 Received: from vms173003pub.verizon.net ([206.46.173.3]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lin3v-0005uL-Hl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 09:55:22 +0000 Received: from DR2 ([71.184.212.10]) by vms173003.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KGJ0030SKVW0T32@vms173003.mailsrvcs.net> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 04:55:08 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: From: "dave.riley3" To: References: Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 04:55:07 -0500 MIME-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Multi-function beacon Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0008_01C9A52A.3671B1C0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C9A52A.3671B1C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Andy, beacons, I guess one could make a case for detection of the RED signal, but not quite= enuf to make a frequency measurement. Conditions were good for copying DI2AM and SM6BHZ 0415 looks about the best... TNX Dave/17 =20 2009 03 14 22 30 45.02 47.01 48.55 42.18 -240.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 14 22 45 43.03 43.24 45.68 40.27 -240.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 14 23 00 45.43 45.02 42.65 40.50 -240.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 14 23 15 43.51 42.23 44.00 38.20 -240.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 14 23 30 56.28 56.33 55.33 53.31 -240.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 14 23 45 31.58 24.63 30.09 22.93 -240.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 15 00 00 35.53 23.34 25.55 23.21 -240.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 15 00 15 36.16 38.75 40.73 31.88 -240.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 15 00 30 36.42 35.50 35.42 32.79 -240.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 15 00 45 38.51 35.93 36.26 34.17 -240.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 15 01 00 46.15 44.20 42.57 41.68 -240.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 15 01 15 47.14 43.99 46.59 42.46 -240.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 15 01 30 46.24 45.77 45.86 41.55 -240.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 15 01 45 48.21 45.14 45.58 41.76 -240.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 15 02 00 43.59 44.06 51.39 42.51 -240.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 15 02 15 46.14 51.63 46.41 42.56 -240.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 15 02 30 45.87 51.95 48.03 44.00 -240.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 15 02 45 47.14 46.12 47.40 44.04 -240.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 15 03 00 46.38 48.08 46.57 45.21 -240.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 15 03 15 49.76 46.17 46.42 44.66 -240.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 15 03 30 49.45 48.28 46.35 45.51 -240.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 15 03 45 46.82 46.93 45.24 46.18 -240.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 15 04 00 43.42 49.45 45.42 43.88 -240.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 15 04 15 52.30 45.05 43.80 44.29 -240.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 15 04 30 47.92 45.22 44.68 43.71 -240.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 15 04 45 47.18 49.20 46.21 43.64 -240.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 15 05 00 48.01 50.49 48.73 44.97 -240.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 15 05 15 45.51 49.19 49.08 43.85 -240.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 15 05 30 50.47 48.77 49.65 43.66 -240.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 15 05 45 46.20 45.84 52.50 43.86 -240.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C9A52A.3671B1C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Andy, beacons,
 
I guess one could make a case for detection of t= he RED=20 signal, but not quite enuf to make a frequency=20 measurement.
Conditions were good for copying DI2AM and=20 SM6BHZ
0415 looks about the best...
 
TNX Dave/17  
 
 
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------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C9A52A.3671B1C0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (rly-mg03.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.109]) by air-mg09.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG094-a0549c412f55d; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 18:04:49 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG037-a0549c412f55d; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 18:04:40 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lkmp9-0001rS-Ir for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 22:04:19 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lkmp9-0001rJ-8L for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 22:04:19 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.4]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lkmp7-0003cl-Ba for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 22:04:19 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id B92DE4C80F2 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 23:04:14 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99A004C8137 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 23:04:10 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <49C412DA.50906@online.fr> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 23:04:10 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: AFJ 20-03.jpg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Henny , TNX 73 henny van elst a =E9crit : > Hi Jean-Pierre,LF > Nice capture F1afj, > Henny pa3cpm > best 73s > > Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzond= en: > AFJ 20-03.jpg > > Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen=20= het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controlee= r de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen w= orden afgehandeld. > > =20 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg10.mx.aol.com (rly-dg10.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.94]) by air-dg02.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDG022-5f649b622df203; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 04:21:10 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg10.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG101-5f649b622df203; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 04:20:50 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LgxCE-0000nd-QO for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 08:20:18 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LgxCE-0000nU-7y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 08:20:18 +0000 Received: from smtp1-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.1]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LgxCC-0000FO-Gc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 08:20:18 +0000 Received: from smtp1-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp1-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED7319401C2 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 09:20:13 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp1-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAAE5940197 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 09:20:10 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <49B622B9.9070601@online.fr> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 09:20:09 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 184khz Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------040809090504030909050201" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --------------040809090504030909050201 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Henny , Joe , LF , Just a small trace here ! 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj henny van elst a =E9crit : > Hi lf, > nil for Joe, > henny pa3cpm > 73s > > =20 --------------040809090504030909050201 Content-Type: image/jpeg; name="20090310090733.jpg" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline; filename="20090310090733.jpg" /9j/4AAQSkZJRgABAQEBLAEsAAD/2wBDAAUDBAQEAwUEBAQFBQUGBwwIBwcHBw8LCwkMEQ8S 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(v2.12.00) Personal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <143887676.20090301200818@web.de> To: "Walter und Marianne Staubach" CC: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <000a01c99a91$a54a1180$1402a8c0@e7010> References: <000a01c99a91$a54a1180$1402a8c0@e7010> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: michael.oexner@web.de X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19VeUX/g7pHLeTBgXiRiveQmz83glyw9zD1y/DS aOQnMEbEP7mYPweCcpZ7HgpO0TehskebnGJGYrRtpi1M7HaohS 6O8CFHQX60zWlVfHodEw== X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WSPR on 600m Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=LINES_OF_YELLING autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hello Walter, > Dear All on MF, > =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 DI2AG will transmit WSPR tonight. Beginning 18UTC, e= nding 7UTC. > Dial frequency 503.6KHz, beacon on 505.090KHz. Power 1W ERP. > Reports welcome. Please report on WSPRnet.org or this reflector. > =A0 > 73=A0 Walter=A0 DI2AG / DJ2LF 1854 2 1.2 0.505088 0 DI2AG JN59 30 1856 -3 1.8 0.505088 0 DI2AG JN59 30 1858 -5 1.1 0.505088 0 DI2AG JN59 30 1900 -7 1.2 0.505088 0 DI2AG JN59 30 1902 -2 1.1 0.505088 0 DI2AG JN59 30 --=20 vy 73 + gd DX, Michael RX: ICOM R75, SDR-IQ, Perseus Antenna: Wellbrook ALA 1530, Mini-Whip Location: Roschbach, Germany N 49=B015' E 8=B007' / Locator JN49BF Editor of "The European NDB Handbook" & "The North American NDB Handbook" cf. http://lwca.org/miscdocs/oexner/2009NDBinfo.zip From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf06.mx.aol.com (rly-mf06.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.176]) by air-mf10.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMF104-96549b43e8d284; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 17:54:29 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf06.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF063-96549b43e8d284; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 17:54:24 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LgQwi-00039g-Ob for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 21:54:08 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LgQwi-00039X-9t for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 21:54:08 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.151] helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LgQwf-0003MI-Vu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 21:54:08 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3512.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 9CB467000083 for ; Sun, 8 Mar 2009 22:54:00 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.31.236]) by mwinf3512.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 611A87000081 for ; Sun, 8 Mar 2009 22:54:00 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20090308215400397.611A87000081@mwinf3512.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <839B448A31F0490FAC0789261C271A6C@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <0566EF6DE20B4249A3E74859BF9BA2C6@AGB> <9C03FBF153AB478A9B0DBC5580CF20D2@AGB> <28FA0F184B25444F8BA2F1EC5FC42C04@AGB> <006101c9a01b$0d14fc10$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> In-Reply-To: <006101c9a01b$0d14fc10$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 21:53:59 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8064.206 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8064.206 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Ok so who missed this quick qsy ? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_013D_01C9A038.6311BF50" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_013D_01C9A038.6311BF50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Whilst watching Andys beacon ..... captured this ...=20 Oops a daisy seems to be the appropriate technical expression=20 (the wavy line is feature of the R5003)=20 1800 Hz =3D 504 Khz=20 >>> http://uk500khz.googlegroups.com/web/capt0903082130.jpg <<< http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/ufos-and-things-that-go-beep G ..=20 ------=_NextPart_000_013D_01C9A038.6311BF50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Whilst watching Andys beacon ..... captured= this=20 ....
 
Oops a daisy seems to  be the=20  appropriate   technical expression
 
(the wavy line is feature of the R5003)=20
 
1800 Hz =3D 504 Khz
 
>>> http://uk500= khz.googlegroups.com/web/capt0903082130.jpg <<<
 
 
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------=_NextPart_000_013D_01C9A038.6311BF50-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg01.mx.aol.com (rly-mg01.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.107]) by air-mg03.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG032-9f249ce2898150; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 09:39:54 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg01.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG014-9f249ce2898150; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 09:39:38 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LnYk5-0005wd-L4 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 13:38:33 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LnYk5-0005wU-7I for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 13:38:33 +0000 Received: from mailout06.t-online.de ([194.25.134.19]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LnYk3-0000TV-Ck for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 13:38:33 +0000 Received: from fwd11.aul.t-online.de by mailout06.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 1LnYk1-0002cM-03; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 14:38:29 +0100 Received: from e7010 (b7EptQZfghutwQyne03E-YUdYmoE1e6yU+ck6mZ9AaD-RDen1tFavBATCtPaItUZqK@[84.147.194.121]) by fwd11.aul.t-online.de with smtp id 1LnYk1-0ipFJ20; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 14:38:29 +0100 Message-ID: <004201c9afaa$79a0c410$1402a8c0@e7010> From: "Walter und Marianne Staubach" To: Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 14:38:27 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4927.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 X-ID: b7EptQZfghutwQyne03E-YUdYmoE1e6yU+ck6mZ9AaD-RDen1tFavBATCtPaItUZqK X-TOI-MSGID: 61f39475-bebb-4626-864d-00bdcc2edfbc X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: DI2AG WSPR Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003F_01C9AFB2.DB220890" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_003F_01C9AFB2.DB220890 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear All on MF,=20 DI2AG is still running in WSPR, 0.5W ERP on 505.090KHz. TNX to G0H= NW for his numerous reports last night and also to F4DTL and DJ6LB. DI2AG wi= ll be transmitting continually throughout day and night until Monday morning= . Your reports - also daylight propagation - are welcome via WSPR database o= r by e-mail. Thanks a lot.=20 73 Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF BTW: Last eve, when I started WSPR on MF, I observed my signal with ARGO - f= ull band view. Only one modulated carrier on the screen. All ok. For a while= later - sun had disappeared - suddenly the screen was full of vertikal line= s , all modulated like the main carrier. It was a ladder, all lines 100, 200= , 300,.....Hz apart. When the transmitter paused, the carriers were off. Som= ething wrong with the equipment? After a long time I found the reason: I had= switched on the light in my shack. This comes from three energy-saving bulb= s, each 15W. My antenna begins just outside the shack, part of the power mix= ed in the electronic of the bulbs with the rectifiers. When replacing these=20= Bulbs by good olds type Mr. Edison the ghost carriers were off. What do we l= earn? Before saving energy test the bulbs for curious signals :-) 73 Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF =20 ------=_NextPart_000_003F_01C9AFB2.DB220890 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear All on MF,
       =    DI2AG is still=20 running in WSPR, 0.5W ERP on 505.090KHz. TNX to G0HNW for his numerous repor= ts=20 last night and also to F4DTL and DJ6LB. DI2AG will be transmitting continual= ly=20 throughout day and night until Monday morning. Your reports - also daylight=20 propagation - are welcome via WSPR database or by e-mail. Thanks a lot.=20
73
Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF
 
BTW: Last eve, when I started WSPR on MF, I= =20 observed my signal with ARGO - full band view. Only one modulated carrier on= the=20 screen. All ok. For a while later - sun had disappeared - suddenly the scree= n=20 was full of vertikal lines , all modulated like the main carrier. It was a=20 ladder, all lines 100, 200, 300,.....Hz apart. When the transmitter paused,=20= the=20 carriers were off. Something wrong with the equipment? After a long time I f= ound=20 the reason: I had switched on the light in my shack. This comes from three=20 energy-saving bulbs, each 15W. My antenna begins just outside the shack= ,=20 part of the power mixed in the electronic of the bulbs with the rectifiers.=20= When=20 replacing these Bulbs by good olds type Mr. Edison the ghost carriers were o= ff.=20 What do we learn? Before saving energy test the bulbs for curious=20 signals :-)
73
Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF
 
------=_NextPart_000_003F_01C9AFB2.DB220890-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh09.mx.aol.com (rly-mh09.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.145]) by air-mh07.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMH071-bf549c53df1103; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 15:20:35 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh09.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH095-bf549c53df1103; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 15:20:19 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ll6jZ-0008I9-G3 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 19:19:53 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ll6jZ-0008I0-5T for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 19:19:53 +0000 Received: from mta31.charter.net ([216.33.127.82]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ll6jX-00008N-93 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 19:19:53 +0000 Received: from imp11 ([10.20.200.11]) by mta31.charter.net (InterMail vM.7.09.01.00 201-2219-108-20080618) with ESMTP id <20090321191937.NTAF2647.mta31.charter.net@imp11>; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 15:19:37 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.2] ([68.116.200.100]) by imp11 with charter.net id VvKd1b0082AU2w405vKduZ; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 15:19:37 -0400 Message-ID: <49C53DC9.3060108@charter.net> Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 15:19:37 -0400 From: John Andrews User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, 600MRG , "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, & UK) and MedFer bands" X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 508.500 WOLF Tonight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) WE2XGR/3 will be beaconing in WOLF(10) mode on 508.500 kHz tonight (Saturday) from 2300 to 0230 UTC. Reports are welcome. John Andrews, W1TAG / WE2XGR/3 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg08.mx.aol.com (rly-mg08.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.114]) by air-mg07.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG071-a2749c3d9a83c3; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 14:00:37 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg08.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG081-a2749c3d9a83c3; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 14:00:10 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lkj0b-0007Ii-Fb for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 17:59:53 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lkj0b-0007IZ-37 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 17:59:53 +0000 Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de ([212.227.126.177]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lkj0Z-0002Ra-Sf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 17:59:53 +0000 Received: from W1KW (77-20-51-211-dynip.superkabel.de [77.20.51.211]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu6) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0ML29c-1Lkj0T241g-0001oH; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 18:59:45 +0100 Message-ID: <002301c9a985$a6fcce20$c501a8c0@W1KW> From: "Holger 'Geri', DK8KW" To: References: Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 18:59:44 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 Disposition-Notification-To: "Holger 'Geri', DK8KW" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+Q1tey5S2n+Td7NeupnWSZUfU4o2pupve3JhO LKsddzBsjTpEAJvNjExAYUlex9poffm5TxGvdb8JGEVDaSO2xd d0/c4vK0hcvBPo590Wv0A== X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Subject: LF: Re: DI2BO Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Victor, Henny and Nicolas, Thanks for the reception reports of DI2BO. Especially in relation to PIA this gives an interesting picture about what is possible even with low power. Vy 73 Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO (currently on 440.015 kHz) ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "blacksheep" Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 8:41 PM Subject: LF: DI2BO > Good copy DI2BO 440KHz 19:39z > > 73 > > Victor ----- Original Message ----- From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:00 AM Subject: LF: DI2BO 15-03.jpg Hi LF, Capture DI2BO, Henny pa3cpm Best 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: di2bo 15-03.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld. ----- Original Message ----- From: F4DTL@aol.com To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 2:05 AM Subject: Re: LF: DI2BO Nice copy this evening,with the strong PIA beacon on 440 kHz F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP RX : Icom IC7200 Ant: LF/MF Miniwhip From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (rly-dd04.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.151]) by air-dd04.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDD043-b7049ae759529d; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 07:35:39 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD042-b7049ae759529d; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 07:35:36 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LeqJw-0004Bx-Rp for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 12:35:32 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LeqJw-0004Bo-FK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 12:35:32 +0000 Received: from qw-out-1920.google.com ([74.125.92.148]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LeqJv-0004qC-FI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 12:35:32 +0000 Received: by qw-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 4so2815027qwk.16 for ; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 04:35:29 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=qNWfNR8m/quAzwjNGvRirBgZ8cZrQ5Q5A7hn5VbujJM=; b=G65AVUW8XmsFC7C26WP1ZYR2VPvIraRsDa8rBZ29Vy5hMYuOnsAGBNykeRdc1Crloc UPD0DOymAREQ9EaBQO7ztNLpRe69HCbaqzQU2sy7s73fCXrmayZjLNM5w2mmW4YAi8K5 ehHKX4tmx6STtYTrPFtPrEiJzi5QUGpTM3xdY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=XKoFeRwzk+AEQ8TUvh9vXfDnkMabvdfLDdh0KsUFGXWjRdTS/OHbCvw5jFVv03amfb pDnCoCw/547hZ4ll+/Lgvu7PqJsOmtTrbz8GJ1EMjhc1PSQ4MRtnm1FwA1c51RFCZ33X VYJ7Vq8PKA8fhGQyDPoeT8lq08k8dMDuMV8oM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.36.202 with SMTP id u10mr11520888qad.124.1236170129517; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 04:35:29 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 07:35:29 -0500 Message-ID: <57a24ca70903040435w47c2acafla5ef37fcb2088872@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: XGJ report Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m257.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Marco, Thanks for the capture! 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ On 3/4/09, Scholz, Marco wrote: > Hello Warren, > I copied your signal from ~22:40 - 00:40 and ~3:30 - 4:30UTC. > Attached a strong peak "X" around 4:00am UTC. > > Vy73 > Marco > DD7PC > JN49ax > > mailto:dd7pc@gmx.de > http:/dd7pc.qsl.nu > -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (rly-dd01.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.148]) by air-dd08.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD083-b5849cf2b3b47; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 04:03:29 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD012-b5849cf2b3b47; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 04:03:10 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lnpxh-0007xp-KD for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 09:01:45 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lnpxh-0007xg-7G for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 09:01:45 +0100 Received: from dx.ru ([80.68.4.13]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lnpxe-0007y3-Oo for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 09:01:45 +0100 Received: from [85.26.183.18] (helo=UR5IBG) by dx.ru with esmtpa auth=ed@dx.ru id 1LnpxW-000BeA-CU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 12:01:36 +0400 Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 12:01:01 +0400 From: Ed RU6LA X-Mailer: The Bat! (v4.0.7) Professional Organization: Ed Lesnichy X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <64634259.20090329120101@dx.ru> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 1.3 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.332 Subject: LF: XGJ strong Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------E99DFC2412F34F" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------------E99DFC2412F34F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear LF enthusiasts! XGJ was very strong from 3z till 5z in 60s mode of Argo Now see some traces (o to M) on abt 710 in 10s mode 73! 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with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LfFY7-0005Py-DO for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 15:31:51 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LfFY7-0005Pp-22 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 15:31:51 +0000 Received: from smtp2-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.2]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LfFY6-0000hD-7F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 15:31:50 +0000 Received: from smtp2-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp2-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id B74D94B009F for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 16:31:47 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp2-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id A84EB4B00FD for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 16:31:44 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <49AFF060.3070309@online.fr> Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 16:31:44 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <8FA0F64CAE294E9681BFE4D22D1EB2D4@ns94d01ae4d850> In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: QRV Again on 1600m Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Joe , I listening tonight your signal ! 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj jcraig@mun.ca a =E9crit : > Dear LF Group, > > The antenna wire is up again. 184.5093 kHz 10 watts 0.5 amps to 100m wire > at 10m height. QRSS75 24/7 > > Reports most welcomed! > > 73 & GL > Joe VO1NA > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me04.mx.aol.com (rly-me04.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.38]) by air-me04.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME044-9b449cbcbbd15f; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:39:22 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me04.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME048-9b449cbcbbd15f; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:38:55 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LmuSj-0002xm-EI for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 18:37:57 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LmuSj-0002xd-0F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 18:37:57 +0000 Received: from ttsmtp-2.cpwnetworks.com ([62.24.128.243] helo=ttsmtp.cpwnetworks.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LmuSf-0000Hy-Ps for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 18:37:56 +0000 X-Path: TalkTalk-smtp X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AmIJADVoy0lZ8hBR/2dsb2JhbACCJSYIgWyHHgbJHYN3Bg Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([89.242.16.81]) by ttsmtp.cpwnetworks.com with SMTP; 26 Mar 2009 18:37:47 +0000 Message-ID: <008d01c9ae41$f5fc4df0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 18:37:46 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.014,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Lazy Man's CW made it to Venus and back Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_008A_01C9AE41.F5CA4170" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_008A_01C9AE41.F5CA4170 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MessageWolf. It looks like LAZY MANS CW has come in useful.=20 Everyone knows what LMCW means no need to mention QRSSSSSSSSSSSS ie LMCW 3,=20= 10, 30 etc MAL/G3KEV ----- Original Message -----=20 From: dl4yhf@freenet.de=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 5:11 PM Subject: LF: Lazy Man's CW made it to Venus and back Greetings everyone, Not really LF, but QRSS... A group of radio amateurs from AMSAT-DL has successfully transmitted a (ve= ry short) message in QRSS, consisting of the two letters "HI" (im memoriam o= f old OSCARS) to Venus on 2.4 GHz, and received the reflection. Each TX/RX over lasted for about 5 minutes (the travelling time). The tran= smitter was a 5 kW magnetron disciplined to a narrow-band transmitter. Detai= ls on the AMSAT-DL website. The German HR TV will send a documentation tonig= ht at 19:30 (local). The EVE (Earth-Venus-Earth) details follow tomorrow on=20= Hessischer Rundfunk. 73, Wolf DL4YHF (from the IUZ in Bochum) -- =20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.28/2022 - Release Date: 03/25/09= 07:16:00 ------=_NextPart_000_008A_01C9AE41.F5CA4170 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message
Wolf.
It looks like LAZY MANS CW has come in usef= ul.=20
Everyone knows what LMCW means no need to m= ention=20 QRSSSSSSSSSSSS ie LMCW 3, 10, 30 etc
MAL/G3KEV
 
----- Original Message -----
dl4yhf@= freenet.de
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 5:11= =20 PM
Subject: LF: Lazy Man's CW made it=20= to=20 Venus and back

Greetings everyone,

Not really LF, but QRSS...
A=20 group of radio amateurs from AMSAT-DL has successfully transmitted a (very= =20 short) message in QRSS, consisting of the two letters "HI" (im memoriam of= old=20 OSCARS) to Venus on 2.4 GHz, and received the reflection.
Each TX/RX ov= er=20 lasted for about 5 minutes (the travelling time). The transmitter was a 5=20= kW=20 magnetron disciplined to a narrow-band transmitter. Details on the AMSAT-D= L=20 website. The German HR TV will send a documentation tonight at 19:30 (loca= l).=20 The EVE (Earth-Venus-Earth) details follow tomorrow on Hessischer=20 Rundfunk.

73,
 Wolf DL4YHF
  (from the IUZ in=20 Bochum)

--
=20


No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG -=20 www.avg.com
Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.28/2022 - Releas= e=20 Date: 03/25/09 07:16:00
------=_NextPart_000_008A_01C9AE41.F5CA4170-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md09.mx.aol.com (rly-md09.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.147]) by air-md07.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD072-92849c96037345; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 18:35:59 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md09.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD098-92849c96037345; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 18:35:38 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LmFCv-0003R9-L7 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 22:34:53 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LmFCv-0003R0-5A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 22:34:53 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.151] helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LmFCt-0006Q2-Q5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 22:34:53 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3512.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 3D9D3700008A for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 23:34:34 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.7.94]) by mwinf3512.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 01A667000089 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 23:34:33 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20090324223434686.01A667000089@mwinf3512.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <35BC7A5BC84143BB916FEAA9FA0B67CF@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <864ED1778706409D9A640FF89C5F22C7@Silver> In-Reply-To: <864ED1778706409D9A640FF89C5F22C7@Silver> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 22:34:33 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8064.206 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8064.206 X-Spam-Score: 1.8 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166,UPPERCASE_50_75=0.591 Subject: LF: WSPR G0NBD 502.4 DIAL NOW TILL LATER POSS OVER NIGHT Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_016F_01C9ACD0.B4484520" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE, LINES_OF_YELLING,LINES_OF_YELLING_2,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME, SUBJ_ALL_CAPS,UPPERCASE_50_75 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_016F_01C9ACD0.B4484520 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Making hay while the sun (doesn't shine)=20 G0NBD 502.4 DIAL NOW TILL LATER POSS OVER NIGHT=20 Tnx- G .. ------=_NextPart_000_016F_01C9ACD0.B4484520 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Maki= ng =20 hay while the  sun (doesn't shine)
 
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<= /DIV> ------=_NextPart_000_016F_01C9ACD0.B4484520-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (rly-ma08.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.52]) by air-ma02.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMA022-8c249afe30a67; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 09:35:17 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA084-8c249afe30a67; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 09:34:53 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LfEca-0004YO-Km for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 14:32:24 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LfEca-0004YF-4g for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 14:32:24 +0000 Received: from psmtp08.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.22]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LfEcY-0008IQ-TP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 14:32:24 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp08.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KG100EDSF0ICZ@psmtp08.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 15:31:30 +0100 (MET) Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 15:31:29 +0100 From: henny van elst To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <1Lf1BU-0Vc4bw0@fwd01.t-online.de> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: capture 67hz.jpg Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_oLSa5gGCHHkr6LXNa8cNOw)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_oLSa5gGCHHkr6LXNa8cNOw) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT T-Online eMail -Tu Markus and Ha-jo Henny pa3cpm best 73s ---- Original Message ----- From: hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:11 AM Subject: Re: LF: Re: capture 67hz.jpg "Markus Vester" schrieb: Dear Henny, my QTH is about 400 m from a railway line, and I regularly saw their 16.667 Hz power frequency and several ELF harmonics. The E-fields are relatively strong as the lines normally do not carry a grounded top wire for lightning protection. The "modulation" could be caused by some switching activity. Another origin might be a controlled rectifier on the 50 Hz mains, which could be triggered at a subharmonic frequency. Best regards, Markus, DF6NM Dear Markus, I have even thougth that this "67Hz" in reality might have been 66.667 Hz, and this would open other ideas, such as mixer products between 50 Hz and 16,667 Hz etc. HW? 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB ----- Original Message ----- From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 7:43 PM Subject: LF: capture 67hz.jpg Hi,Lf capture unid signal 67hz,but who ? henny pa3cpm best 73s ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.7/1983 - Release Date: 03/04/09 07:41:00 --Boundary_(ID_oLSa5gGCHHkr6LXNa8cNOw) Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT T-Online eMail
 
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---- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:11 AM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: capture 67hz.jpg

  "Markus Vester" <markusvester@aol.com> schrieb:
Dear Henny,
 
my QTH is about 400 m from a railway line, and I regularly saw their 16.667 Hz power frequency and several ELF harmonics. The E-fields are relatively strong as the lines normally do not carry a grounded top wire for lightning protection. The "modulation" could be caused by some switching activity.
 
Another origin might be a controlled rectifier on the 50 Hz mains, which could be triggered at a subharmonic frequency.
 
Best regards,
Markus, DF6NM


Dear Markus,

I have even thougth that this "67Hz" in reality might have been 66.667 Hz, and this would open other ideas, such as mixer products between 50 Hz and 16,667 Hz etc.

HW?

73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 7:43 PM
Subject: LF: capture 67hz.jpg

Hi,Lf
capture unid signal 67hz,but who ?
henny pa3cpm
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Hi lf,
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Congrats Harry,
 
nice=20 signal in Utrecht
 
73
 
Victor
PA3FNY
JO22NC
-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens Harry=20 Woodhouse
Verzonden: vrijdag 20 maart 2009 8:14
Aan:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Onderwerp: LF: 137 KHz reports=20 please

If I manage to get my temporary mast up in the=20 wind, I hope to transmit CQ tomorrow, Saturday 21st March with QRSS3 on=20 137.68KHz.

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fa+19qcSfkn/AE1f9qdt/wCDRf8AOn14lr23/TV/2p23/gsX/On14lrTT//Z ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C9AA22.0618D330-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma02.mx.aol.com (rly-ma02.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.46]) by air-ma04.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMA044-89149b661142ff; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 08:46:26 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma02.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA023-89149b661142ff; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 08:46:15 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lh1Kd-0003pT-G9 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 12:45:15 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lh1Kd-0003pK-4K for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 12:45:15 +0000 Received: from simone.ucs.mun.ca ([134.153.232.77]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lh1Kb-00022m-2T for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 12:45:15 +0000 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.232.153]) by simone.ucs.mun.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n2ACj1Kv019725 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 10:15:03 -0230 Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 10:15:01 -0230 (NDT) From: jcraig@mun.ca X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <49B622B9.9070601@online.fr> Message-ID: References: <49B622B9.9070601@online.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: 184khz / 503.7 kHz Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-1719232024-1487256019-1236689101=:32747" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) ---1719232024-1487256019-1236689101=:32747 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Thank-you Jean-Pierre, Henny and Jay W1VD for the recent reports. Aside from Jean-Pierre's weak capture this morning and Jay's very clear partial callsign capture, there has been little in the way of reception so far this month. Hopefully conditions will improve before the spring QRN brings up the nosie floor. I listened for Andy's G4JNT transmissions on 503.7 last night but nothing heard. Has anyone on this side of the pond heard them yet? 73 Joe VO1NA On Tue, 10 Mar 2009, "Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 (F1AFJ)" wrote: > Hello Henny , Joe , LF , > > Just a small trace here ! > > 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj > > henny van elst a =E9crit : >> Hi lf, >> nil for Joe, >> henny pa3cpm >> 73s >> >> ---1719232024-1487256019-1236689101=:32747-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da05.mx.aol.com (rly-da05.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.79]) by air-da09.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA092-a7049cb60f33e; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 07:03:21 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da05.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA058-a7049cb60f33e; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 07:03:16 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LmnM5-00081F-Dq for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 11:02:37 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LmnM5-000816-3Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 11:02:37 +0000 Received: from dx.ru ([80.68.4.13]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LmnM2-0007u6-Ax for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 11:02:37 +0000 Received: from 68.35.117.87.donpac.ru ([87.117.35.68] helo=192.168.1.3) by dx.ru with esmtpa auth=ed@dx.ru id 1LmnKi-000MfM-Vp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:01:13 +0300 Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:00:52 +0300 From: Ed RU6LA X-Mailer: The Bat! (v4.0.7) Professional Organization: Ed Lesnichy X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <696227068.20090326140052@dx.ru> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 2.6 (++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.332,RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=1.236 Subject: LF: RU6LA's acty 27-28 mar Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear LF enthusiasts! I'll work 27-28 mar on 137 KHz band 73! Ed RU6LA 136.73.ru From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me06.mx.aol.com (rly-me06.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.40]) by air-me03.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME031-9c149c7edb5aa; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 16:15:04 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me06.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME065-9c149c7edb5aa; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 16:14:46 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LlqX9-0001hK-Lf for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:14:07 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LlqX9-0001hB-6x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:14:07 +0000 Received: from imr-m08.mx.aol.com ([64.12.138.210]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LlqX7-0000M9-8D for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:14:07 +0000 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imr-m08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id l.d01.4e5a46e1 (34957) for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 16:12:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Silver (g229167006.adsl.alicedsl.de [92.229.167.6]) by cia-da06.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILCIADA066-888d49c7ed40f3; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 16:12:49 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Markus Vester" To: References: <49C76B3C.7933.6BFBAD@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:12:47 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: XGJ - excellent Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01C9ABF3.BC1623E0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.1 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_40_50, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C9ABF3.BC1623E0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_000A_01C9ABF3.BC1623E0" ------=_NextPart_001_000A_01C9ABF3.BC1623E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Warren, you were unusually strong here as well last midnight. 73 de Markus,=20= DF6NM ------=_NextPart_001_000A_01C9ABF3.BC1623E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Warren, you were unusually strong here as well last midnight. 73 de Markus, DF6NM
 
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rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 20:00:26 +0000 Received: from mail-fx0-f174.google.com ([209.85.220.174]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Leamv-0007DZ-Uu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 20:00:26 +0000 Received: by fxm22 with SMTP id 22so3041734fxm.4 for ; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 12:00:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=fFpxHNKkvCcNTNcg/dJZjxt1/EQkc1hb7QOdnO4748k=; b=cyNVsH6dSW+3DIMf0Ci8e7kQXYgC/+IhQQsdsAYMCU6XGztAp3/4s1k+Nf4EPMRp1M Zc+fdKJDMCG8wPj75N2V0oy5k5Tv7AyhVhaSYaxMIw+Fv21pspiJ/umNCW0nuJLhQPy0 F+o/mjBYeLTiIH1uV3+8kOkP3Xk506uUUY3Gc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=DDW2TE1lkkqw9KOb+oykIKKng+U73nM63QjM/DKdFO0oevfdqdxW1bGwYZp1izXlYU 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rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d236.2 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : fail X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --001636c5bab3673c5104643c625d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit SM6BHZ is TX'ing WSPR now on (I make it about 504.5) dial 503.00 USB. 1956 -4 0.9 0.504503 0 SM6BHZ JO57 30 Chris G3XVL Ipswich (JO02NB) --001636c5bab3673c5104643c625d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable SM6BHZ is TX'ing WSPR now on (I make it about 504.5) dial 503.00 USB.
1956=A0 -4=A0 0.9=A0=A0 0.504503=A0 0 SM6BHZ JO57 30

Chris G3XVL= Ipswich (JO02NB)
--001636c5bab3673c5104643c625d-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md05.mx.aol.com (rly-md05.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.143]) by air-md04.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD043-90249c9ec3fd0; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 04:33:10 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md05.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD052-90249c9ec3fd0; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 04:33:05 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LmOXb-0006h6-PY for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 08:32:51 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LmOXb-0006gx-3z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 08:32:51 +0000 Received: from smtp3.wanadoo.co.uk ([193.252.22.156] helo=smtp3.freeserve.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LmOXZ-0002K8-4r for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 08:32:51 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3212.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id B28DF7000086 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 09:32:41 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.52.48]) by mwinf3212.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 300CA7000084 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 09:32:41 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20090325083241196.300CA7000084@mwinf3212.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <5829CB671231499CB310B679860662AF@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <864ED1778706409D9A640FF89C5F22C7@Silver> <35BC7A5BC84143BB916FEAA9FA0B67CF@AGB> <6F3FEF77C5114A42BB288377EFF89835@2a2d7ed321c6425> <4C20F995A547459D94F4739B09D1441F@DR2> In-Reply-To: <4C20F995A547459D94F4739B09D1441F@DR2> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 08:32:40 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8064.206 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8064.206 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: Re: LF: Re: AW: WSPR G0NBD 502.4 DIAL NOW TILL LATER POSS OVER NIGHT Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002A_01C9AD24.42AE0AE0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE,LINES_OF_YELLING, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME,UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_002A_01C9AD24.42AE0AE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks for the report, Looks like 0100 gmt was best time ? What a night .. wx caused pa to trip on swr .. this looks to be when the pa= tripped at 0306 so will of run from 24-00 to 0300 on 100 watts then d= ropped by 14 db=20 2009-03-25 03:06 G0NBD 0.503939 -18 0 IO83lk +13 0.020 G0KTN= IO81ti 236 147=20 G ..=20 From: dave.riley3=20 Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 1:20 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Cc: 600MRG=20 Subject: LF: Re: AW: WSPR G0NBD 502.4 DIAL NOW TILL LATER POSS OVER NIGHT QSL G0NBD 090325 0050 9 -21 1.5 0.503938 G0NBD IO83 13 Hello Graham, You still had 10 DBs to spare for a decode!!! Try 2 milliwatts... Looks like 155,700 miles per watt... Good on ya... PSE QSL VIA E-MAIL... ( hi hi ) Dave @ WD2XSH/17 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Beckmann, Gerhard=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 7:47 PM Subject: LF: AW: WSPR G0NBD 502.4 DIAL NOW TILL LATER POSS OVER NIGHT =20 Hello Graham, =20 nice signal here in JN59LN =20 2338 -17 1.8 0.503980 -1 G0NBD IO83 13 =20 Vy 73 de Gerhard / DK6NI =20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =20 =20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacks= heep.org] Im Auftrag von Graham Gesendet: Dienstag, 24. M=E4rz 2009 23:35 An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Betreff: LF: WSPR G0NBD 502.4 DIAL NOW TILL LATER POSS OVER NIGHT=20 =20 Making hay while the sun (doesn't shine)=20 =20 G0NBD 502.4 DIAL NOW TILL LATER POSS OVER NIGHT=20 =20 Tnx- G .. =20 =20 =20 =20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.5.283 / Virus Database: 270.11.27/2021 - Release Date: 03/24/09 1= 6:00:00 ------=_NextPart_000_002A_01C9AD24.42AE0AE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks for the report,
 
Looks like 0100 gmt was best time ?<= /DIV>
 
 
What a night .. wx caused pa to trip on swr= .. this=20 looks to be when the  pa tripped at  0306  so will of run=20 from  24-00 to  0300 on 100 watts  then  dropped by 14 d= b=20
2009-03-25 03:06   G0NBD &nb= sp;=20 0.503939   -18   0   IO83lk  =20 +13   0.020   G0KTN   IO81ti  =20 236   147
 
G ..

Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 1:20 AM
Cc: 600MRG
Subject: LF: Re: AW: WSPR G0NBD 502.4 DIAL NOW TILL LATER POSS O= VER=20 NIGHT

QSL G0NBD
 
 
090325 0050   9 -21  1.5 &nb= sp;=20 0.503938  G0NBD IO83 13
 
 
Hello Graham,
 
You still had 10 DBs to spare for a decode!!! Tr= y 2=20 milliwatts...
 
Looks like 155,700 miles per=20 watt...
 
Good on ya... PSE QSL VIA E-MAIL... ( hi hi=20 )
 
 
Dave @ WD2XSH/17
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Beckmann, Gerhard
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 7:47=20 PM
Subject: LF: AW: WSPR G0NBD 502.4 D= IAL=20 NOW TILL LATER POSS OVER NIGHT

 

Hello=20 Graham,

 

nice=20 signal here in JN59LN

 

2338=20  -17  1.8   0.503980 -1 G0NBD IO83=20 13

 

Vy 73=20= de=20 Gerhard  /  DK6NI

 

= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

 

=  <= /FONT>

Von: owner-= rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= ] Im Auftrag von <= /SPAN>Graham
Gesendet: Dienstag, 24. M=E4rz 2009=20 23:35
An: rsgb_= lf_group@blacksheep.org
Betreff: LF: WSPR G0NBD 502.4 DIAL NOW=20 TILL LATER POSS OVER NIGHT

 

Making =20 hay while the  sun (doesn't shine)=20

 

G0NBD=20 502.4 DIAL NOW TILL LATER POSS OVER NIGHT=20

 

Tnx-=20 G ..

 

 

 

 =


No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG -=20 www.avg.com
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------=_NextPart_000_002A_01C9AD24.42AE0AE0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg10.mx.aol.com (rly-mg10.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.116]) by air-mg06.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMG063-a3749c343a856; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 03:20:25 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg10.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG101-a3749c343a856; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 03:20:09 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LkZ1L-0007a8-NC for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 07:19:59 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LkZ1L-0007Zz-B7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 07:19:59 +0000 Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com ([209.85.146.182]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LkZ1I-0006WI-RV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 07:19:59 +0000 Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id l24so576505waf.4 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 00:19:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=YLHPIiiDCLiqXtRLGo+5hsjI2atcimmg1nILY2qDRGA=; b=kb38CDBspG3hiBeKVe7DN6fWRhRpRWcaIUDlo2/fqM1E24zkEykHUZ+z8avzUOIUKO Gm025NiokwYyT6F0He9OJO91oZ7G0HKVHLc4pOZucLO1GdjI+HfT49HB86BKrQzE8SRZ p65fhbUV5hXJFDuiwogO1Fok6fhT2v13lEET4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=w3XSvqEutHGIItpEejWFSZQlMRvYaX6Hu0vlCVGxw5HVe0gr+Efzl4hjijMCOWwBw9 XJ6/5CJ4jt+efCK0yB0wtCD/72ajAh+4YXlVTDgQLWkIOt8F5Gys7q+SsmgZAv51pXf5 jrDM7lIodl7Sf5edJd1nfZhLBYDEkXbkVgQrc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.114.177.1 with SMTP id z1mr2263778wae.68.1237533592891; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 00:19:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 07:19:52 +0000 Message-ID: <5931f8db0903200019t15b9a653ua1f46367492d0ec6@mail.gmail.com> From: Harry Woodhouse To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_00_10=0.642,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 137 KHz reports please Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636456e5a33b239046587be58 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m269.2 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : fail X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --001636456e5a33b239046587be58 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If I manage to get my temporary mast up in the wind, I hope to transmit CQ tomorrow morning Saturday 21st March with QRSS3 on 137.68 KHz. Running 825 watts input to Decca Tx which was scrapped from the Isles of Scilly, to a 230 feet long Marconi T, 30 feet up. Earth is a disused iron water main about 5 miles long. Rx is lazy loop. QTH is at Porthpean, IO 70 OH, on the cliffs looking out to sea to the east. Reports most welcome, but I am 79 and struggling! Please be patient! Harry G3MFW --001636456e5a33b239046587be58 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If I manage to get my temporary mast up in the wind, I hope to transmit CQ t= omorrow morning Saturday 21st March with QRSS3 on 137.68 KHz. Running 825 wa= tts input to Decca Tx which was scrapped from the Isles of Scilly, to a 230=20= feet long Marconi T, 30 feet up. Earth is a disused iron water main about 5=20= miles long. Rx is lazy loop. QTH is at Porthpean, IO 70 OH, on the cliffs lo= oking out to sea to the east. Reports most welcome, but I am 79 and struggli= ng! Please be patient!
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Harry G3MFW
--001636456e5a33b239046587be58-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df12.mx.aol.com (rly-df12.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.25]) by air-df02.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDF024-59349c587db123; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 20:35:43 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df12.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF122-59349c587db123; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 20:35:42 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LlBeX-00032R-5R for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 00:35:01 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LlBeW-00032I-Kf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 00:35:00 +0000 Received: from mail-qy0-f107.google.com ([209.85.221.107]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LlBeT-0002qp-Tg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 00:35:00 +0000 Received: by qyk5 with SMTP id 5so1959905qyk.30 for ; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 17:33:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=UH0JIQSGtTUC9SM8ywc8eY7NHHbNxj6NzfmDJuhHJaY=; b=K5RiXPtcuPZixyfD8rXtfP9NG393eIIfBJ3edypDw75t5/pSRbILyhYYL0wVCoNww4 suyj+j4YUY5lGMbjBLo2pViB4P+5BfRciPKwScjzErCOXmpXsvthQJjsOFpX6X2MGvyW tEczgFrEwRDAz1fK60zGdBwdoKBzQic84TQLs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=u2GtNFysU2OC5KOdyLgOP4OD4IQw0x6q1k0UZOQSjy7LqlNZfsYdjVZCkUzcafWuZc 5CUYAlQb/YFTMNpzrd8qWQIpdXOzlfVzK4uyqmLjFS2JieuAmOZ+CsfkjF5uL6qWyILC 2X5sKkFSBRz4F0jq0e7zRyam1SMHlf+fs/scA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.19.197 with SMTP id c5mr7545597qab.24.1237682030659; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 17:33:50 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <49C53DC9.3060108@charter.net> References: <49C53DC9.3060108@charter.net> Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 20:33:50 -0400 Message-ID: <57a24ca70903211733k4fe4a03h2e580ead8187e21e@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: Re: LF: 508.500 WOLF Tonight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m228.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) The return of Wolfman Jack? -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 3:19 PM, John Andrews wrote: > WE2XGR/3 will be beaconing in WOLF(10) mode on 508.500 kHz tonight > (Saturday) from 2300 to 0230 UTC. Reports are welcome. > > John Andrews, W1TAG / WE2XGR/3 > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg05.mx.aol.com (rly-mg05.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.111]) by air-mg09.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG092-a1549c893ca24; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 04:03:26 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg05.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG057-a1549c893ca24; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 04:03:24 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lm1bB-0006cc-SG for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 08:03:01 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lm1bB-0006cT-8z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 08:03:01 +0000 Received: from mail6.ssmb.com ([199.67.203.180] helo=mail.citigroup.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lm1b9-00024v-S4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 08:03:01 +0000 Received: from imbarc-eu02.eur.nsroot.net (imbarc-eu02 [169.186.216.28]) by imbaspam-eu02.eur.nsroot.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/SSMB_EXT/ev: 22534 $) with ESMTP id n2O82pN7017267 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 08:02:52 GMT Received: from mailhub-dc2.eu.ssmb.com (mailhub-dc2.eur.nsroot.net [169.186.205.199]) by imbarc-eu02.eur.nsroot.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/SSMB_QQQ_IN/1.1) with ESMTP id n2O82ieI002585 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 08:02:44 GMT Received: from exuksm05.eur.nsroot.net (Exuksm05.eur.nsroot.net [169.183.26.34]) by mailhub-dc2.eu.ssmb.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/CG_HUB) with ESMTP id n2O82hUJ020792 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 08:02:43 GMT Received: from exukmb49.eur.nsroot.net ([169.183.32.64]) by exuksm05.eur.nsroot.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Tue, 24 Mar 2009 08:02:34 +0000 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6619.12 Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 08:02:31 -0000 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: LF: Re: XGJ - excellent Thread-Index: Acmr+nyATe1i8ua2TCmDYPxqG5y83wAW6u9A From: "Scholz, Marco " To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Mar 2009 08:02:34.0065 (UTC) FILETIME=[E37E7410:01C9AC56] X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 169.186.247.38 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C9AC56.E22698B8" Subject: RE: LF: Re: XGJ - excellent X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) ------_=_NextPart_001_01C9AC56.E22698B8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Warren, copied your signal last night between 0:35 - 5:20 UTC. Received some charate= rs like in the attached sample.=20 vy73 Marco DD7PC in JN49ax [Rx: Yaesu FT857 with G0MRF 137KHz preamp and PA0DRT Miniwhip] -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksh= eep.org] On Behalf Of Warren Ziegler Sent: 23 March 2009 21:57 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: Re: XGJ - excellent Thank you Markus, I saw the signal last night on your 'grabber -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 3:12 PM, Markus Vester wrote: > Warren,=A0you were unusually strong here as well last midnight. 73 de Mark= us, > DF6NM > ------_=_NextPart_001_01C9AC56.E22698B8 Content-Type: image/jpeg; name="xgj_240309_jn49ax.JPG" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Description: xgj_240309_jn49ax.JPG Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="xgj_240309_jn49ax.JPG" /9j/4AAQSkZJRgABAQEAyADIAAD/2wBDABsSFBcUERsXFhceHBsgKEIrKCUlKFE6PTBCYFVl ZF9VXVtqeJmBanGQc1tdhbWGkJ6jq62rZ4C8ybqmx5moq6T/2wBDARweHigjKE4rK06kbl1u pKSkpKSkpKSkpKSkpKSkpKSkpKSkpKSkpKSkpKSkpKSkpKSkpKSkpKSkpKSkpKSkpKT/wAAR CAAfAQADASIAAhEBAxEB/8QAHwAAAQUBAQEBAQEAAAAAAAAAAAECAwQFBgcICQoL/8QAtRAA AgEDAwIEAwUFBAQAAAF9AQIDAAQRBRIhMUEGE1FhByJxFDKBkaEII0KxwRVS0fAkM2JyggkK FhcYGRolJicoKSo0NTY3ODk6Q0RFRkdISUpTVFVWV1hZWmNkZWZnaGlqc3R1dnd4eXqDhIWG h4iJipKTlJWWl5iZmqKjpKWmp6ipqrKztLW2t7i5usLDxMXGx8jJytLT1NXW19jZ2uHi4+Tl 5ufo6erx8vP09fb3+Pn6/8QAHwEAAwEBAQEBAQEBAQAAAAAAAAECAwQFBgcICQoL/8QAtREA AgECBAQDBAcFBAQAAQJ3AAECAxEEBSExBhJBUQdhcRMiMoEIFEKRobHBCSMzUvAVYnLRChYk NOEl8RcYGRomJygpKjU2Nzg5OkNERUZHSElKU1RVVldYWVpjZGVmZ2hpanN0dXZ3eHl6goOE hYaHiImKkpOUlZaXmJmaoqOkpaanqKmqsrO0tba3uLm6wsPExcbHyMnK0tPU1dbX2Nna4uPk 5ebn6Onq8vP09fb3+Pn6/9oADAMBAAIRAxEAPwDms/LjH40lPIA+Q4z60m0BMnknp7UCG45x Tu2MkjFIxzjpwMU4bMDJb0wKBg5yx3EZ9RTWJJG7t606Rg7cDA6DtikwM7ehz1NAbiqGIyCO eOtNIA68n2pVOB/T1oOCfTPb0p2AVkwvAJ75pASmGBIb6U4E7CD26H/PaoznvSYCnnknk0Dr ycUEYOKCSxyxz70ABPXmgjHB60A8YPI+tLj5c0ANopSSepzR26UAJmiilOMDFABjJwOaSlxz 1oBx16GgBKUnjv70dDnGKAM59qADgjuTSUvTkGkoAXJyffsKTFGKKACl4x05pKKACiiigApy j16d+abSj2oAM4BAqQzuVC4XA6fKKipzHPGMY7ZoFa5MLqQDOI+ePuimPIZfmfaOOw61F0o7 0Aopa2JjOxj8squz1A5/OkjmePdtx8w53AHNMA3EjIx14pSMZ2/XJ7inuw5Y2F8xpJMsRnHe pBNIqrnaQDwdtQgZXOOc4FJk7etDYcqHvIQ5xjr1xSM7SlQeT9KRhgY3dO1ALY2g8UMbWohz jBoUkHI60HGeOlJSAesrKcjH5CleVmUDAA9gOaYQAOvPpSUBYcrFen8qQHHQCgkHGBik7UAS eazDaSMY9KRJGiJCkc+2aYBk4oIxQG453LkEgDAxgChcdxn+lN6UuecnmgVh6TMhJAHPqKa7 tI2Wxnp6Uh554/CjGc46CgLLcm+1SBdnyEf7oNL9rkPBEePTYKhI+UH1NNoE4p9B8kjSuWbG fal8xlI4Xj2qOindjsSCV1II28dOBTZHLsWOPwFNpc8Y9KXmMdvYkAAfl1pQx2ElRjPpUdLy ePeh6isDMWxnHHoMUlAz2pcnGM8UDP/Z ------_=_NextPart_001_01C9AC56.E22698B8-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de10.mx.aol.com (rly-de10.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.146]) by air-de02.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDE024-50649ae75871ca; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 07:35:39 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de10.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE101-50649ae75871ca; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 07:35:22 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LeqJ7-0004BG-Bw for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 12:34:41 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LeqJ6-0004B7-TT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 12:34:40 +0000 Received: from qw-out-1920.google.com ([74.125.92.145]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LeqJ6-0004iT-5u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 12:34:40 +0000 Received: by qw-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 4so2814728qwk.16 for ; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 04:34:38 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; 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charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d250.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Willem, Thank you for the XGJ capture! 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ On 3/4/09, Willem De Roode wrote: > Capture xgj > 73 sWillem pa3ego > > > -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de05.mx.aol.com (rly-de05.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.141]) by air-de04.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDE043-4d749c0c093216; 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boundary="_fa9f6d78-e594-4a24-928b-44ba495e4d0f_" Subject: LF: XGJ_XKO X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_fa9f6d78-e594-4a24-928b-44ba495e4d0f_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Warren, LF! I saw traces of callsigns XGJ and XKO only. The weather was awful last nigh= t. It was raining and there were strong wind and storm here. But it is clear= now, so I hope this night will be better. 73 Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS=20 _________________________________________________________________ St=E1hn=ECte si zcela nov=FD Messenger 2009! http://download.live.com/messenger=3D --_fa9f6d78-e594-4a24-928b-44ba495e4d0f_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Warren, LF!
I saw traces of  callsigns XGJ and XKO only. The w= eather was awful last night. It was raining and there were strong wind and s= torm here. But it is clear now, so I hope this night will be better..
73

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

St=E1hn=ECte si zcela nov= =FD Messenger 2009! Klikni zde! =3D --_fa9f6d78-e594-4a24-928b-44ba495e4d0f_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd05.mx.aol.com (rly-dd05.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.152]) by air-dd07.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD072-b7949cb97d860; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 10:57:42 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd05.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD053-b7949cb97d860; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 10:57:29 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lmr0y-0001Aj-Fy for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:57:04 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lmr0y-0001Aa-46 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:57:04 +0000 Received: from ttsmtp-3.cpwnetworks.com ([62.24.128.244] helo=ttsmtp.cpwnetworks.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lmr0v-0002na-UZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:57:04 +0000 X-Path: TalkTalk-smtp X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhcGABM1y0lcGcBt/2dsb2JhbACCU4Fshx4GyCuDdgY Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([92.25.192.109]) by ttsmtp.cpwnetworks.com with SMTP; 26 Mar 2009 14:56:52 +0000 Message-ID: <006a01c9ae23$1956d820$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:56:52 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 501.3 carrier Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0067_01C9AE23.191D9FB0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0067_01C9AE23.191D9FB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Has someone left their TX on 501.3 khz. It seems to be there this past coupl= e of days. mal/g3kev =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0067_01C9AE23.191D9FB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Has someone left their TX on 501.3 khz. It=20= seems to=20 be there this past couple of days.
mal/g3kev
 
------=_NextPart_000_0067_01C9AE23.191D9FB0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df08.mx.aol.com (rly-df08.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.21]) by air-df01.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDF011-57149aa51a8188; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 04:13:28 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df08.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF088-57149aa51a8188; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 04:13:14 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ldhj3-0007cK-K9 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 09:12:45 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ldhj3-0007cB-8a for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 09:12:45 +0000 Received: from smtp07.online.nl ([194.134.42.52]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ldhj2-0003vJ-CI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 09:12:45 +0000 Received: from smtp07.online.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp07.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DC9998050 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 10:12:39 +0100 (CET) Received: from pa3fnytrqxpddu (s5593e077.adsl.wanadoo.nl [85.147.224.119]) by smtp07.online.nl (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 10:12:39 +0100 (CET) From: To: "blacksheep" Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 09:11:48 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Online-Scanned: by Cloudmark authority (on smtp07.online.nl) X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: xgj Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0002_01C99A4D.C02E9F50" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0002_01C99A4D.C02E9F50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, good signals from xgj,wpf,agc and yo, 73 Victor ------=_NextPart_000_0002_01C99A4D.C02E9F50 Content-Type: image/jpeg; name="xgj66.jpg" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="xgj66.jpg" /9j/4AAQSkZJRgABAgAAAQABAAD/4QDmRXhpZgAASUkqAAgAAAAFABIBAwABAAAAAQAAADEB AgAcAAAASgAAADIBAgAUAAAAZgAAABMCAwABAAAAAQAAAGmHBAABAAAAegAAAAAAAABBQ0Qg U3lzdGVtcyBEaWdpdGFsIEltYWdpbmcAMjAwOTowMzowMSAxMDoxMDowNAAFAACQBwAEAAAA MDIyMJCSAgAEAAAANjE3AAKgBAABAAAAQAIAAAOgBAABAAAAHgAAAAWgBAABAAAAvAAAAAAA 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(post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me02.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME023-99f49cc9c07382; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 05:27:38 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ln8Kg-00018N-2H for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 09:26:34 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ln8Kf-00018E-Lu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 09:26:33 +0000 Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.198.245]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ln8Kc-0003Zz-RW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 09:26:33 +0000 Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id l33so1117921rvb.4 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 02:26:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; 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Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016364574a4c32be4046616520f X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d287.2 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : fail X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --0016364574a4c32be4046616520f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hoping to call CQ on 137.68 KHz tomorrow 28th March from 08.30 to 12.30 GMT. 825 watts DC input to Decca Tx. 3=BD RF amps to Marconi T. Earth to metal water pipe 8KM long. QTH Porthpean IO 70 OH, house on cliffs with clear view of horizon 100 to 160 degrees true (roughly E to SE). Last Saturday, to my amazement, I was received by Marco near Karlsruhe. About 915 km, 400km over sea. --0016364574a4c32be4046616520f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hoping to call CQ on 137.68 KHz tomorrow 28th March from 08.30 to 12.30 GMT.= 825 watts DC input to Decca Tx. 3=BD RF amps to Marconi T. Earth to metal w= ater pipe 8KM long. QTH Porthpean IO 70 OH, house on cliffs with clear view=20= of horizon 100 to 160 degrees true (roughly E to SE). Last Saturday, to my a= mazement, I was received by Marco near Karlsruhe. About 915 km, 400km over s= ea.

--0016364574a4c32be4046616520f-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db05.mx.aol.com (rly-db05.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.80]) by air-db04.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB041-ac449c4e1ff1a; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 08:48:17 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db05.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB052-ac449c4e1ff1a; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 08:48:01 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ll0c6-0004CF-EO for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 12:47:46 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ll0c6-0004C6-3Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 12:47:46 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.4]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ll0c4-0002kW-5m for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 12:47:46 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E32E4C802B for ; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 13:47:40 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ECE44C8046 for ; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 13:47:38 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <49C4E1E9.6010907@online.fr> Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 13:47:37 +0100 From: =?windows-1252?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <49C412DA.50906@online.fr> <49C4A4D6.4080705@online.fr> <003f01c9aa1e$99d3b8a0$0900a8c0@AM> In-Reply-To: <003f01c9aa1e$99d3b8a0$0900a8c0@AM> X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: AFJ 's Grabber closed ! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Alan , Thank you 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj Alan Melia a =E9crit : > Hi Jean Pierre thanks for your reports enjoy your "holiday" > Alan G3NYK > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 (F1AFJ)" > To: > Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 8:27 AM > Subject: LF: AFJ 's Grabber closed ! > > > Hello LF , > The grabber will be closed for a few times, two reasons with that : > 1/ by carrying out my tests of TXing I =93killed=94 my preamplifier of the > K9AY , > 2/ I leave in the south for two weeks , > I will see all that on my return ! > 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj > > > > > > > > =20 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de01.mx.aol.com (rly-de01.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.137]) by air-de02.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDE023-4b349c16611229; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 17:22:45 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de01.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE018-4b349c16611229; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 17:22:26 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lk3D3-0003lW-97 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:21:57 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lk3D2-0003lN-PX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:21:56 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.4]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lk3Cy-0001Ve-Jf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:21:56 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id A78384C80DE for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 22:21:49 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9160D4C818D for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 22:21:46 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <49C165E9.3080701@online.fr> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 22:21:45 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: AFJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Lubos , Thank you for capture and report , 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj Lubos OK2BVG a =E9crit : > Hello Jean-Pierre, LF! > I just see your signal. FB! > > Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS > > _________________________________________________________________ > Pozvi sv=E9 p=F8=E1tele z Facebooku a Hotmailu do Messengeru! > https://www.invite2messenger.net/Default.aspx > =20 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg10.mx.aol.com (rly-mg10.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.116]) by air-mg01.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG014-a3849cdf84ee5; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 06:13:39 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg10.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG102-a3849cdf84ee5; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 06:13:36 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LnVXG-0004DC-ET for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 10:13:06 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LnVXG-0004D3-3L for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 10:13:06 +0000 Received: from smtp19.orange.fr ([80.12.242.18]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LnVXD-0003Bp-WD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 10:13:06 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1916.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 7C4B5200014B for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 11:12:48 +0100 (CET) Received: from JR (Mix-Nancy-110-2-207.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.248.195.207]) by mwinf1916.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id BA64720000AB for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 11:12:47 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20090328101247763.BA64720000AB@mwinf1916.orange.fr Message-ID: <200903281112290908.541FE18C@smtp.wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <200903281104270721.54188600@smtp.wanadoo.fr> References: <200903281104270721.54188600@smtp.wanadoo.fr> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (P) Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 11:12:29 +0100 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: Re: LF: 137: 'MFW' 20dB SNR, '?E5ODL' 15dB SNR Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ODL might be DL2HRE calling the OE. Wandering 50Hz spaced comb came up. 73 F5VLF *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 28/03/2009 at 11:04 John RABSON wrote: >At 1000z > >73 F5VLF From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df01.mx.aol.com (rly-df01.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.14]) by air-df03.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDF033-52a49c2f4e7b6; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 21:44:22 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df01.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF017-52a49c2f4e7b6; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 21:44:08 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LkTli-0004LQ-I6 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 01:43:30 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LkTli-0004LH-2P for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 01:43:30 +0000 Received: from blu0-omc1-s6.blu0.hotmail.com ([65.55.116.17]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LkTlf-0001cI-Hj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 01:43:30 +0000 Received: from BLU146-W9 ([65.55.116.8]) by blu0-omc1-s6.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 19 Mar 2009 18:43:21 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [201.196.58.59] From: Laurence BY3A-KL1X China To: Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 17:43:21 -0800 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <1168962903.22540.1237476815238.JavaMail.mail@webmail08> References: <1168962903.22540.1237476815238.JavaMail.mail@webmail08> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Mar 2009 01:43:21.0499 (UTC) FILETIME=[404166B0:01C9A8FD] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_5b9583e1-895e-416a-9510-09800deee3e7_" Subject: RE: LF: energy saving bulbs X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_5b9583e1-895e-416a-9510-09800deee3e7_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Forgot to reply Peter but Ive also had issues with LF interference from the=20= Phillips 22W Hi efficiency (RF) type Balun lamps. Not sure of the part numbe= rs but I bought it in China. - It got binned as I couldnt cure it with norma= l methods. =20 Laurence =20 Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 15:33:35 +0000 From: peter.cleall@virgin.net To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: energy saving bulbs A big thankyou to everyone who replied to my recent e-mails on energy saving= bulbs. I sent the message to 3 different lists and received 31 replies. The general= conclusion seems to be that the only interference to radio listening in rec= ent times have been with specific rogue bulbs, not specific brands.There was= some useful advice on handling the hazards of disposal of bulbs. Some inter= esting dialogue on whether these bulbs were as efficient and as long life as= claimed. Ideas that these bulbs were inappropriate for use where they were=20= only on for very short periods, but suggestions that recent designs were bet= ter in all aspects of operation. So I come to the conclusion that perhaps I will try some but will devise a m= eans of comparing band noise in parts of the spectrum that interst me. Then serendipity kicks in. We were on holiday this week some 600 km from hom= e. Go into a charity shop to buy something for =A31. and I am also given 2 f= ree energy saving bulbs from Scottish Hydro Electric. They also decide that=20= my wife can also have 2 bulbs. Now I have no excuse, I will have to try them= when I return. =20 regards peter _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live=99: Life without walls. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=3DTXT_TAGLM_WL_allup_1a_explore_032009= =3D --_5b9583e1-895e-416a-9510-09800deee3e7_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Forgot to reply Peter but Ive also had issues with LF interference from the=20= Phillips 22W Hi efficiency (RF) type Balun lamps. Not sure of the part=20= numbers but I bought it in China. - It got binned as I couldnt cure it=20= with normal methods.
 
Laurence
 
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 15:33:35 +0000
From: peter.cleall@virgin.net
To= : rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: energy saving bulbs

A big thankyou to everyone who replied to my recent e-mails on energy saving= bulbs.
I sent the message to 3 different lists and received 31 replies..= The general conclusion seems to be that the only interference to radio list= ening in recent times have been with specific rogue bulbs, not specific bran= ds.There was some useful advice on handling the hazards of disposal of bulbs= . Some interesting dialogue on whether these bulbs were as efficient and as=20= long life as claimed. Ideas that these bulbs were inappropriate for use wher= e they were only on for very short periods, but suggestions that recent desi= gns were better in all aspects of operation.

So I come to the conclusion that perhaps I will try some but will devise= a means of comparing band noise in parts of the spectrum that interst me. Then serendipity kicks in. We were on holiday this week some 600 km from hom= e. Go into a charity shop to buy something for =A31. and I am also given 2 f= ree energy saving bulbs from Scottish Hydro Electric. They also decide that=20= my wife can also have 2 bulbs. Now I have no excuse, I will have to try them= when I return.
 
regards
peter

Windows Live=99: Keep your life in sync. =20= Check it out. =3D --_5b9583e1-895e-416a-9510-09800deee3e7_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma03.mx.aol.com (rly-ma03.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.47]) by air-ma03.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMA032-89d49cdec5534f; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 05:22:46 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma03.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA037-89d49cdec5534f; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 05:22:30 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LnUjf-0003c4-Dm for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 09:21:51 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LnUje-0003bv-T4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 09:21:50 +0000 Received: from mail-in-05.arcor-online.net ([151.189.21.45]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LnUjc-00079W-P5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 09:21:50 +0000 Received: from mail-in-06-z2.arcor-online.net (mail-in-06-z2.arcor-online.net [151.189.8.18]) by mx.arcor.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8FB633274E for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 10:21:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail-in-11.arcor-online.net (mail-in-11.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.51]) by mail-in-06-z2.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 976255BE4C for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 10:21:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from edgar1ew1re1zt (dslb-088-072-133-168.pools.arcor-ip.net [88.72.133.168]) (Authenticated sender: dl2hre@arcor.de) by mail-in-11.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 348CFE3AFF for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 10:21:38 +0100 (CET) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.2 mail-in-11.arcor-online.net 348CFE3AFF DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=arcor.de; s=mail-in; t=1238232098; bh=zumeyiVARpLaJ3vjrsE2Y2A/ILiLqHtbwHBUBPNg20k=; h=Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=BK+nG95EBF7HrBADX5+m/mYo4qHkCH81CtV8ijyXxsXaA0MSRRWRr53kvNXwqRFHL SywuJg0KYGwPLdL3B5+Iy7DbCUi5yvQICt/ApyeC4ZbgBTAMqr8/cDRXD+07K40IPC ci3wjWQ1YoQn3IwmANTPK3okUav8ZRu1ETVy6s9w= Message-ID: From: "dl2hre" To: References: <5931f8db0903110410h410cd7c3k4fd09b74b8ae0ad5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 09:21:36 -0000 Organization: Arcor Online MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: 137KHz reports please Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01C9AF86.97EEAE10" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.4 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d261.1 ; domain : arcor.de DKIM : fail ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C9AF86.97EEAE10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable dr Harry, can you qsy 5Hz up or dwn please. i have mny qrm(line) on the present qrg. may be we can have a qso! 73 Ed DL2HRE jo51tq ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Harry Woodhouse=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 11:10 AM Subject: LF: 137KHz reports please I hope to transmit QRSS3 on 137.68 KHz on Saturday mornings March 21 & 28.= Depends on weather here in Cornwall - I live on the coast and have to erect= a temporary mast. Using Decca Tx from Isles of Scilly running 825 watts inp= ut to a Marconi T 230 feet long 30 feet up. Lazy Loop for Rx. Started on 72=20= KHz in 1998, reached well into Devon, but nobody there so no contacts! On 13= 6 have only had QSOs with G3YXM, F6BWO, G3XDV & G3WCB. I am 79 and strugglin= g! Would be delighted to make more contacts, but please be patient with me,=20= I keep doing stupid things! Regards, Harry G3MFW ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C9AF86.97EEAE10 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
dr Harry,
 
can you qsy 5Hz up or dwn please. i have mn= y=20 qrm(line) on the present qrg.
  may be we can have a qso!
 
73 Ed DL2HRE jo51tq
----- Original Message -----
Harry Woodhouse
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 11:= 10=20 AM
Subject: LF: 137KHz reports please<= /DIV>

I hope to transmit QRSS3 on 137.68 KHz on Saturday mornings= =20 March 21 & 28. Depends on weather here in Cornwall - I live on the coa= st=20 and have to erect a temporary mast. Using Decca Tx from Isles of Scilly=20 running 825 watts input to a Marconi T 230 feet long 30 feet up. Lazy Loop= for=20 Rx. Started on 72 KHz in 1998, reached well into Devon, but nobody there s= o no=20 contacts! On 136 have only had QSOs with G3YXM, F6BWO, G3XDV & G3WCB.=20= I am=20 79 and struggling! Would be delighted to make more contacts, but please be= =20 patient with me, I keep doing stupid=20 things!
          &nb= sp;            =20 Regards, Harry G3MFW
------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C9AF86.97EEAE10-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (rly-ma08.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.52]) by air-ma01.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMA012-8c549c7809d55; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 08:29:32 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA087-8c549c7809d55; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 08:29:19 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LljHG-0006nE-TH for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 12:29:14 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LljHG-0006mz-9M for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 12:29:14 +0000 Received: from qw-out-1920.google.com ([74.125.92.146]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LljHD-0005Tq-TQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 12:29:14 +0000 Received: by qw-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 5so1039775qwc.16 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 05:28:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=giMAIA5zFaKel2SJa8VZEGXe83r/KBoN6p+Ek2fL3Pc=; b=AZflzjOSxFzFWegx5a4YsiG3F6mUlmUunCVNtAzV7wv6a0py4/qcEuO4E2Ew0HQdGm iWZ0qBnhT4ST2kbbY+8IMDi38jmNFd6eQhJIChRIGJAlKmHXhmJTzpbeDaSa9Wzj1JI5 uCG3zIU9zpP77MAPUXGilRbn9qqEHFrHI8q9Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=NAf6FB6Ino5vsxj+WnQxq88QIjXE/yZEyG8wqnmMy7B6qehwqVaiJEUyyz/7mMhILY py1FKICPa48fd5CGLQzk3hpCTA3trCmbUcknjEhLqOKWns/08ekzYA+wzvzogXFp/Jck mtqrRCkyckiFMtErxFiDcqfjsTPSFnbH8RsgU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.11.137 with SMTP id t9mr8701510qat.178.1237811332842; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 05:28:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 08:28:52 -0400 Message-ID: <57a24ca70903230528v5dce2d83iebb4e0e13c91381c@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: Re: LF: XGJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m242.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Lubos, Thank you for the nice capture! --=20 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 2009/3/23 Lubos OK2BVG : > Hello Warren, LF! > XGJ signal was good this morning. > 73 > > Lubos, OK2BVG > > > ________________________________ > St=E1hn=ECte si zcela nov=FD Messenger 2009! Klikni zde! From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg09.mx.aol.com (rly-mg09.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.115]) by air-mg10.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG103-a3249c4c56f8b; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 06:46:23 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg09.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG094-a3249c4c56f8b; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 06:46:09 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lkyhx-0002DZ-Kn for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 10:45:41 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lkyhx-0002DQ-3l for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 10:45:41 +0000 Received: from smtp2b.orange.fr ([80.12.242.146]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lkyhv-0000ht-3d for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 10:45:41 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2b17.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 802D9700009A for ; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 11:45:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from JR (Mix-Nancy-110-2-245.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.248.195.245]) by mwinf2b17.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id D4D1E7000094 for ; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 11:45:18 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20090321104518871.D4D1E7000094@mwinf2b17.orange.fr Message-ID: <200903211144570189.3031141D@smtp.wanadoo.fr> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (P) Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 11:44:57 +0100 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 137 at 1035-1040z Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 DTL very strong BWO/XDV strong cq de g3mfw weak but diecipherable 73 John Rabson F5VLF 58800 Cervon France JN17vg From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db08.mx.aol.com (rly-db08.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.83]) by air-db10.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB101-ae149c6c9b130d; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 19:28:59 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db08.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB087-ae149c6c9b130d; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 19:28:50 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LlX5Y-00080A-Gk for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 23:28:20 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LlX5Y-000801-4s for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 23:28:20 +0000 Received: from imo-m12.mx.aol.com ([64.12.143.100] helo=imo-m12.mail.aol.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LlX5V-0006BT-Mj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 23:28:20 +0000 Received: from F4DTL@aol.com by imo-m12.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id l.d1b.3a2e4dd8 (41809) for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 19:28:06 -0400 (EDT) From: F4DTL@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 19:28:05 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5029 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: RE: 136kHz activity 21 March [G3MFW] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1237764485" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 -------------------------------1237764485 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 Thanx Dave,very interresting measures. =20 =20 F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP _http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/_ (http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/)=20 =20 =20 =20 Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 22/03/2009 23:08:24 Paris, Madrid, =20 ganymede444@btopenworld.com a =E9crit : LF, Congratulations to Harry G3MFW for putting a very strong signal into IO91RM= . Screenshot attached. Mike G3XDV also captured on the screenshot. Signal strengths measured on my "Tee" antenna with the SPM-30 as follows:- G3XDV -42 dBm G3MFW -61 dBm F6BWO -70 dBm F4DTL -73 dBm Noise floor -80 dBm in 24 Hz bandwidth 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor, SE England -------------------------------1237764485 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanx Dave,very interresting measures.
 
 
 
 
 
Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 22/03/2009 23:08:24 Paris, Madrid,=20 ganymede444@btopenworld.com a =E9crit :
LF,

Congratulations to Harry G3MFW for putting a very strong=20 signal into IO91RM.
Screenshot attached. Mike G3XDV also captured on th= e=20 screenshot.

Signal strengths measured on my "Tee" antenna with the=20 SPM-30 as follows:-

G3XDV -42 dBm
G3MFW -61 dBm
F6BWO =20   -70 dBm
F4DTL -73 dBm
Noise floor -80 dBm in 24 Hz=20 bandwidth


73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor, SE=20 England



 
 -------------------------------1237764485-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da05.mx.aol.com (rly-da05.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.79]) by air-da05.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDA054-a7049abaace237; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:46:11 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da05.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA058-a7049abaace237; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:45:52 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Le4hv-0008Px-OZ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 09:45:07 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Le4hv-0008Po-73 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 09:45:07 +0000 Received: from elvis.franken.de ([193.175.24.41]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Le4hu-0002Eu-HB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 09:45:07 +0000 Received: from uucp by elvis.franken.de with local-rmail (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1Le4hs-0002M4-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 10:45:04 +0100 Received: from [192.168.1.12] (uhrenpc [192.168.1.12]) by mbsks.zwiebeltuete.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EF634480BB for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 10:39:27 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <49ABA94B.9040106@mbsks.franken.de> Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 10:39:23 +0100 From: Roland Bruestle User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000a01c99a91$a54a1180$1402a8c0@e7010> <20090301205328.1s1wth6swu0w80c4@webmail4.kuleuven.be> <20090301205958.za3harvgnsowkw8w@webmail4.kuleuven.be> <49AAF55A.8070106@toya.net.pl> In-Reply-To: <49AAF55A.8070106@toya.net.pl> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WSPR on 600m Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi DI2AG was transmitting on 505.09 kHz last night. Roland DL3NDR Piotr MĹ‚ynarski schrieb: > sri > bad decode of di2ag: > 2024 -14 2.6 0.505179 2 1C5HNX NI57 10 > 2034 -25 0.6 0.505094 0 DI2AG JN59 30 > unfortunately , wsprnet(database) accepted it and i have automatic > upload on. > > 73,peter,sq7mpj > p.s #1 > it would be a nice record - almost 9000 km on 500 kHz ( 1W erp) > with "1/2" of w3dzz on a rx side..... > post scriptum # 2 > doeas anyone have an idea how to remove bad record from wspr database ? > (record as a line not record as a record ..hi) > qth: lodz, poland /jo91rs/ > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma09.mx.aol.com (rly-ma09.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.53]) by air-ma08.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMA083-8cc49b121363d2; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 08:12:40 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma09.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA096-8cc49b121363d2; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 08:12:24 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LfZqD-0003UD-N9 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 13:11:53 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LfZqD-0003U4-0j for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 13:11:53 +0000 Received: from mail-bw0-f164.google.com ([209.85.218.164]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LfZqA-0001wV-PL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 13:11:52 +0000 Received: by bwz8 with SMTP id 8so413004bwz.4 for ; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 05:11:41 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=uTZhvS8WRuKaXVtsAw+UnXKJKovRpPtMH2G9lyKJiYo=; b=wa/QFxM1BI3l0CEe8d/ZwrDrcaUS3S4OJyKISgj+K8RHBNVE/hys9oxKo2MCw2MGPA /S/wTpkztiAg+i/F6Cxug55q1b3MfrvZNJBCwjgc+WxKI4fMZd0L8IOOgmFp5n66zmqU Wz/6eVLfkGvI4g0VTwsH16NkEG5ueEjEw/ZKA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=GL7oF/tvW39mAdtqZZoTFClvGbs39ld0bA/ZthfFCZlmZlPzeyOyxJCONe8Zhsf0lQ lOAlJEMUG9BFShX7EOTkfxbmfLeeUjO1Yt46u8E5VoPElFFcXN1xbe/q/1aUnWms0ONm zp7qXWjTTwz7/wP2QO85rT/CE48odekUInOIM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.122.15 with SMTP id j15mr2035615far.10.1236345100417; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 05:11:40 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <0566EF6DE20B4249A3E74859BF9BA2C6@AGB> References: <0566EF6DE20B4249A3E74859BF9BA2C6@AGB> Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 13:11:40 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Multi-function beacon Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5a72387bb9304647306d9 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d302.1 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --001636c5a72387bb9304647306d9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There is no auto reporting feature in that S/W. It generates a log file containing S/N of each beacon / time slot, which the user then has to personally send to the 5MHz working group. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/3/6 Graham > Andy, > > Quick Q .. is the reception software capable of auto reporting to the 5 > meg group ? > > I have an idea it has this facility .or at least produces a -5 meg- report > file . if so can it be turned off ? > > > G .. > > *From:* Andy Talbot > *Sent:* Friday, March 06, 2009 11:03 AM > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > *Cc:* jfell@tesco.net > *Subject:* LF: Multi-function beacon > > I've now started transmitting a timed beacon signal on 503.7kHz that > is identical in format to that of GB3SSS operated over the winter months of > the last two years from Poldhu on 1.9 and 3.5MHz, and has a similar signal > structure to the 5MHz beacons, GB3RAL, WES and ORK. These all have an > initial CW ident and stepped power levels for aural reception, and a > precisely defined period of full-power plain carrier for S/N measurements. > See http://www.rsgb-spectrumforum.org.uk/5mhz%20beacons.htm for the > complete 5MHz signal structure. For this MF transmission, as on GB3SSS, > the pulsed sounder sequence of the 5MHz beacons is replaced with a PSK31 > message which lasts from 30s to approx 48 seconds after the start > > Auto Monitoring software writen by G3PLX is available for monitoring > these beacons, it measures signal to noise during the carrier period and > saves to file as well as plotting the last 40 hours worth of measurements. > The software can be downloaded from > http://www.rsgb.org/spectrumforum/hf/beaconauto.php . PSK31 data can be > copied with Digipan, Fldigi, PSK31SBW or a host of other packages. > > *TIMING * > The 503.7kHz transmission takes place every 15 minutes at 4 minutes past > the quarter hour. > ie each transmission starts at *xx:04, xx:19, xx:34 and xx:49 * This > time slot has been selected so that the transmission do not interfere with > my continuous ongoing reception of the 5Mhz beacons - the active antenna > used for these is overloaded by the 500kHz signal and I have already lost > data when the WSPR beacon transmission coincided with one of the monitoring > windows. > > NOTE If using the G3PLX software, this only monitors for the three 5MHz > beacons at 00, 01 and 02 minutes. > *SO IT WILL BE NECESSARY TO FRIG THE SOFTWARE * to monitor > this transmission at the 04 minute point. The necessary alteration can be > done by firstly setting your PC clock accurately to the correct time, then > setting the Track Time box to -240 (minus 240 seconds). This will make the > software look for this transmission during the time window it thinks it > would be receiving GB3RAL, and log the MF transmission during the first > minute, on the red trace, as if it were GB3RAL > > The beacon uses the identical hardware to the WSPR transmissions of the > last few weeks, with the the only change being a reprogramming of the > controller PIC. In fact the very same hardware was previously loaned to > the Poldhu club for their beacons, with the only difference being a change > to the final Low Pass filter on the output of the broadband PA. > > Andy G4JNT > www.g4jnt.com > > ------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.8/1985 - Release Date: 03/05/09 > 07:54:00 > > --001636c5a72387bb9304647306d9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
There is no auto reporting feature in that S/W.=A0=A0=A0 It generates a= log file containing S/N of each beacon / time slot, which the user then has= to personally send to the 5MHz working group.

Andy =A0G4JNT
www= .g4jnt.com


2009/3/6 Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
Andy,
=A0
Quick Q .. is the=A0 reception software= capable of auto reporting to the=A0 5 meg group=A0?
=A0
I have an idea it has this=A0 facility=20= .or at least produces a -5 meg-=A0report file . if so can it be turned off ?=
=A0
=A0
G ..

Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 11:03 AM
Subject: LF: Multi-function beacon

I've now=A0started transmitting a timed=A0 beacon signal on 503.7kH= z that is=A0identical in format to that of GB3SSS operated over the winter m= onths of the last two years=A0=A0from Poldhu on 1.9 and 3.5MHz, =A0and has= =A0a similar signal structure to the 5MHz beacons, GB3RAL, WES and ORK.=A0 T= hese all have=A0an initial CW ident and=A0stepped power levels for aural rec= eption,=A0and a precisely defined period of full-power plain carrier for S/N= measurements.=A0=A0
See=A0 =A0http://www.rsgb-spectrumforum.org.uk/5mhz%20beacons= .htm=A0 for the complete 5MHz =A0signal structure.=A0=A0For this MF tran= smission, as on GB3SSS, the pulsed sounder sequence of the 5MHz beacons is r= eplaced with a PSK31 message which lasts from=A030s to approx 48 seconds aft= er the start
=A0
Auto Monitoring software writen by G3PLX is available for monitoring th= ese beacons, it measures signal to noise during the carrier period and saves= to file as well as plotting the last 40 hours worth of measurements.
The software can be downloaded from=A0 http://www.rsgb.org/spectr= umforum/hf/beaconauto.php=A0.=A0=A0 PSK31 data can be copied with Digipa= n, Fldigi, PSK31SBW or a host of other packages.
=A0
TIMING
The 503.7kHz transmission takes place every 15 minutes at 4 minutes pas= t the quarter hour.=A0
ie=A0each transmission starts at xx:04, xx:19, xx:34 and xx:49= =A0=A0=A0=A0This time slot has been selected so that the transmissi= on do not interfere with my continuous ongoing reception of the 5Mhz beacons= - the active antenna used for these is overloaded by the 500kHz signal and=20= I have already lost data when the WSPR beacon transmission coincided with on= e of the monitoring windows.
=A0
NOTE=A0=A0 If using the=A0G3PLX software, this only=A0monitors for the=20= three 5MHz beacons at =A000, 01 and 02 minutes.
SO IT WILL BE NECESSARY=A0TO FRIG=A0THE SOFTWARE =A0to= monitor this=A0transmission at the 04 minute point.=A0=A0=A0The necessary a= lteration can be done by firstly setting=A0your PC clock accurately to the c= orrect time, then setting the Track Time box to -240 (minus 240 seconds)..= =A0 This will make the software look for this transmission during the time= =A0window it thinks it would be receiving GB3RAL, and log the=A0MF transmiss= ion during the first minute, on the red trace, as if it were GB3RAL=A0
=A0
The beacon uses the identical hardware to the=A0WSPR transmissions of= =A0the last few weeks, with the the only change being a=A0reprogramming of t= he controller PIC.=A0=A0 In fact the very same hardware was previously loane= d to the Poldhu club for their beacons, with the only difference being a cha= nge to the final Low Pass filter on the output of the broadband PA.
=A0
Andy =A0G4JNT
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--001636c5a72387bb9304647306d9-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md04.mx.aol.com (rly-md04.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.142]) by air-md07.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMD072-90049b49ca3f7; Mon, 09 Mar 2009 00:35:59 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md04.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD048-90049b49ca3f7; Mon, 09 Mar 2009 00:35:49 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LgXCd-0007tG-MP for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Mar 2009 04:34:59 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LgXCd-0007t7-Ah for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Mar 2009 04:34:59 +0000 Received: from mail-qy0-f103.google.com ([209.85.221.103]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LgXCb-0005s7-Hm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Mar 2009 04:34:59 +0000 Received: by qyk1 with SMTP id 1so1011128qyk.30 for ; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 21:34:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=bgp/CinACx2xSn7IseFQmU3QIcRUEtY7GuQzSo7EGTE=; b=qT7OzVRhXdRet7l7hu/+SBOcpvBP8GgoUMuxK/2Sp4UkNF3pLXMCSlmuOykaItgWGb y7Oi6TOoFDDlygZQu9jHLjNx8QdwAppIWZbhTIqLwAT6+4FyGDgFVRSS0FZc6A0YY64z DwVWNvXwcm9FtvVRLBv8TdlduMN5XjfDwSHG8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Ooc0fjLDi3k76QXlrKz2BECaeDCWj6lp/z9xEgCEN9/DAXqIYbvV+xFHkbR86j+S7W H6J0Cv9lZ5rYOapLxGTJaBST7mfQo0s0O1inCH/M5O3AM99OI9R7l43sDlo9lJrmWmPf +pEstwZVPYIwoJ5KKCcaXK7GqFkOS45AYZHQI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.28.78 with SMTP id l14mr6495165qac.307.1236573290141; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 21:34:50 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <552E4D8090C443129A866221CE713901@ns94d01ae4d850> References: <552E4D8090C443129A866221CE713901@ns94d01ae4d850> Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 00:34:50 -0400 Message-ID: <57a24ca70903082134sacce7fex45bb53d916fd42b0@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: XGJ 08-03.jpg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m229.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Henny, Lubos, Thank you for the captures! 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ On 3/8/09, henny van elst wrote: > Hi Warren,lf > capture XGJ > Henny pa3cpm > 73s > Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden > verzonden: > XGJ 08-03.jpg > > Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen > het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. > Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe > bijlagen worden afgehandeld. > -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da05.mx.aol.com (rly-da05.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.79]) by air-da05.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDA054-a6a49ab09af2a5; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 17:18:27 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da05.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA052-a6a49ab09af2a5; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 17:18:25 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ldtz9-0001oH-Eb for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 22:18:11 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ldtz9-0001o8-2c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 22:18:11 +0000 Received: from mta21.charter.net ([216.33.127.81]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ldtz3-0005yh-IL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 22:18:10 +0000 Received: from imp09 ([10.20.200.9]) by mta21.charter.net (InterMail vM.7.09.01.00 201-2219-108-20080618) with ESMTP id <20090301221749.YWRE7559.mta21.charter.net@imp09>; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 17:17:49 -0500 Received: from [192.168.0.2] ([68.116.200.100]) by imp09 with charter.net id MyHp1b00D2AU2w405yHpx5; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 17:17:49 -0500 Message-ID: <49AB098D.1020505@charter.net> Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 17:17:49 -0500 From: John Andrews User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, 600MRG References: <49AAF908.7040906@charter.net> <20090301223044.8i4kbe2osr5wco8o@webmail4.kuleuven.be> <49AB04A1.2030308@charter.net> <017801c99ab9$f8e9a9e0$6401a8c0@asus> In-Reply-To: <017801c99ab9$f8e9a9e0$6401a8c0@asus> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WE2XGR/3 WSPR tonight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Gary, Rik, Darn. Now I remember why we settled on 508.500! I'll take Rik's "new" advice and move up by 50 Hz, and put the carrier on 508.050. Keep your dials on 506.500. John Andrews, WE2XGR/3 Gary - G4WGT wrote: > Hi John, > > Don't forget we see an NDB "Z" carrier on 508.000 KHz, plus or minus from > that would be preferred for WSPR signal. > > 73 > > Gary - G4WGT. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma07.mx.aol.com (rly-ma07.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.51]) by air-ma08.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMA084-8bb49c9870e197; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 21:21:28 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma07.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA075-8bb49c9870e197; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 21:21:21 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LmHnQ-0004Vo-J7 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 01:20:44 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LmHnQ-0004Vf-0f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 01:20:44 +0000 Received: from vms173017pub.verizon.net ([206.46.173.17]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LmHnM-0001Dl-Gz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 01:20:43 +0000 Received: from DR2 ([71.184.212.10]) by vms173017.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KH100EVLFQ1CZHI@vms173017.mailsrvcs.net> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 20:20:26 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <4C20F995A547459D94F4739B09D1441F@DR2> From: "dave.riley3" To: Cc: "600MRG" References: <864ED1778706409D9A640FF89C5F22C7@Silver> <35BC7A5BC84143BB916FEAA9FA0B67CF@AGB> <6F3FEF77C5114A42BB288377EFF89835@2a2d7ed321c6425> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 21:20:25 -0400 MIME-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: LF: Re: AW: WSPR G0NBD 502.4 DIAL NOW TILL LATER POSS OVER NIGHT Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0017_01C9ACC6.590DABA0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.1 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_70_80, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE,LINES_OF_YELLING,UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C9ACC6.590DABA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable QSL G0NBD 090325 0050 9 -21 1.5 0.503938 G0NBD IO83 13 Hello Graham, You still had 10 DBs to spare for a decode!!! Try 2 milliwatts... Looks like 155,700 miles per watt... Good on ya... PSE QSL VIA E-MAIL... ( hi hi ) Dave @ WD2XSH/17 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Beckmann, Gerhard=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 7:47 PM Subject: LF: AW: WSPR G0NBD 502.4 DIAL NOW TILL LATER POSS OVER NIGHT =20 Hello Graham, =20 nice signal here in JN59LN =20 2338 -17 1.8 0.503980 -1 G0NBD IO83 13 =20 Vy 73 de Gerhard / DK6NI =20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =20 =20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacks= heep.org] Im Auftrag von Graham Gesendet: Dienstag, 24. M=E4rz 2009 23:35 An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Betreff: LF: WSPR G0NBD 502.4 DIAL NOW TILL LATER POSS OVER NIGHT=20 =20 Making hay while the sun (doesn't shine)=20 =20 G0NBD 502.4 DIAL NOW TILL LATER POSS OVER NIGHT=20 =20 Tnx- G .. =20 =20 =20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C9ACC6.590DABA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
QSL G0NBD
 
 
090325 0050   9 -21  1.5 &nb= sp;=20 0.503938  G0NBD IO83 13
 
 
Hello Graham,
 
You still had 10 DBs to spare for a decode!!! Tr= y 2=20 milliwatts...
 
Looks like 155,700 miles per=20 watt...
 
Good on ya... PSE QSL VIA E-MAIL... ( hi hi=20 )
 
 
Dave @ WD2XSH/17
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Beckmann, Gerhard
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 7:47=20 PM
Subject: LF: AW: WSPR G0NBD 502.4 D= IAL=20 NOW TILL LATER POSS OVER NIGHT

 

Hello=20 Graham,

 

nice= signal here in=20 JN59LN

 

2338=  -17=20  1.8   0.503980 -1 G0NBD IO83 13

 

Vy 7= 3 de=20 Gerhard  /  DK6NI

 

=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

 

=  <= /FONT>

Von: owner-= rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= ] Im Auftrag von <= /SPAN>Graham
Gesendet: Dienstag, 24. M=E4rz 2009=20 23:35
An: rsgb_= lf_group@blacksheep.org
Betreff: LF: WSPR G0NBD 502.4 DIAL NOW=20 TILL LATER POSS OVER NIGHT

 

Making =20 hay while the  sun (doesn't shine)=20

 

G0NBD=20 502.4 DIAL NOW TILL LATER POSS OVER NIGHT=20

 

Tnx-=20 G ..

 

 

 

 =

------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C9ACC6.590DABA0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md06.mx.aol.com (rly-md06.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.144]) by air-md07.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMD071-90c49b26c5620e; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 07:45:27 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md06.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD064-90c49b26c5620e; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 07:45:12 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lfvte-00045s-VI for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 12:44:54 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lfvte-00045j-Ew for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 12:44:54 +0000 Received: from cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.43]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lfvtd-00047A-Ba for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 12:44:54 +0000 Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (smtpshost02.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.75]) by cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DC687B8043 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 13:44:46 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B753F3863 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 13:44:46 +0100 (CET) Received: from webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.242.4]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 030E6F3862 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 13:44:46 +0100 (CET) Received: by webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 9979C57A2; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 13:44:46 +0100 (CET) Received: from 212.94-200-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (212.94-200-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [80.200.94.212]) by webmail4.kuleuven.be (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 13:44:46 +0100 Message-ID: <20090307134446.ii8sntwivt1c4co4@webmail4.kuleuven.be> Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2009 13:44:46 +0100 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <1DF611251F48450DB34200591E4F2D0D@radiorummet> <20090307122246.s1brm6bta0yswk0s@webmail4.kuleuven.be> In-Reply-To: <20090307122246.s1brm6bta0yswk0s@webmail4.kuleuven.be> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 80.200.94.212 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: DI2AG daytime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=LINES_OF_YELLING autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Now good copies: 1124 -27 1.3 0.505092 0 DI2AG JN59 23 1146 -26 1.3 0.505092 0 DI2AG JN59 23 1152 -28 1.1 0.505092 0 DI2AG JN59 23 1158 -26 1.3 0.505092 0 DI2AG JN59 23 1214 -28 1.2 0.505092 0 DI2AG JN59 23 1222 -26 1.3 0.505092 0 DI2AG JN59 23 1230 -26 1.2 0.505092 0 DI2AG JN59 23 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T Quoting Rik Strobbe : > Weak daytime copy of DI2AG in JO20ix (481km). > Traces can be seen but no decoding (yet), see attached (RX frequency = > 503.6 so traces at 90 are from DI2AG) > > 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > > > > > > Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de12.mx.aol.com (rly-de12.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.148]) by air-de04.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDE044-51e49b43a17202; 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Its working ! Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5b680148a430464a24912 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d237.1 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --001636c5b680148a430464a24912 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Its exactly the same RF hardware as the WSPR beacon was - the only difference is in the PIC code. Details are : 100W RF Out (peak / carrier) 7m high Tee antenna with 14m top span. Gain estimate -27dB - based on Rrad / Rload measurements ERP 23dBm. There may be some small /low-res photos of the antenna in the 73kHz archives somewhere - but I don't have good quality electronic copies. They were taken on film a few years before before digital photography became all-pervasive. For info, the controller consists of an AD9852 DDS clocked from a 13MHz TCXO (*4 internally for a 52MHz DDS clock) controlled from a 16F628 PIC. A Motorola Oncore GPS receiver supplies timing information as serial data and a 1PPS UTC reference pulse. An early version of the PIC driver code can be found at http://www.g4jnt.com/NEWHFBCN.ASM The latest version has a few improvements, such as raised cosine shaping on the CW pulse rather than the linear ramp in the code shown Power Amp. is a Kalmus broadband module, flat over 0.5 to 40MHz, rated at 200W max - so at 100W is substantially backed-off for good linearity. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/3/8 Graham > Andy, > > Looks like I have a signal 6/10 db over the noise during the day from > 1200 slow rise from 1500 peak at 1800 , dip at 1700 and + 23 dB at 201= 5 > .. seems to be a 1 hour qsb cycle as well > > I think Gary is set up also for 24 monitor period ... Im seeing signal > levels recorded that are not showing on spec lab .. > > Q, do you have some details of the beacon, power , erp, or web links I > can add to the info page ? > > Tnx- G .. > > > *From:* Andy Talbot > *Sent:* Sunday, March 08, 2009 6:26 PM > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > *Subject:* Re: LF: AW: 503.7 Multi-function beacon ... Its working ! > > It is no trouble to continue the transmission. I have set up the equipmen= t > in the garage where it does not get in the way of other shack activites, a= nd > won't do too much damage if the euipment blows up! So I can leave it > running for a few weeks unless the antenna is needed for other purposes.. > > Andy G4JNT > www.g4jnt.com > > > 2009/3/8 Beckmann, Gerhard > >> Hi Graham, >> >> >> >> Thank you for your statement! >> >> Well actually, especially Scattergram or equal measurement methods would >> be of interest regarding the aspect of signal path monitoring. (direct wa= ve >> / sky wave via cross correlation of pulse delay values). >> >> However, the aspect of interferences by using 500us pulses has to be take= n >> into consideration but may be there are coming up suitable solution by th= e >> LF-group. >> >> Another method of monitoring the signal path on 500 kHz could possibly >> performed by using the =93PSK Sounder=94 software from ZL2AFP. And what I= saw on >> a first glance it should be usable for transmission and reception in orde= r >> to monitor the signal path situation. >> >> >> >> By the way: >> >> Do you know if Andy is continuing the Multi-function beaconing on 503.7 >> kHz? >> >> In this case I would try long term signal monitoring by GB3RAL.exe and PS= K >> message decoding within the next evening sessions. >> >> >> >> vy 73 de Gerhard / DK6NI >> >> >> >> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> *Von:* owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto: >> owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] *Im Auftrag von *Graham >> *Gesendet:* Sonntag, 8. M=E4rz 2009 15:36 >> *An:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> *Betreff:* Re: LF: AW: 503.7 Multi-function beacon ... Its working ! >> >> >> >> Hi, Grerhard, >> >> >> >> Andy's post about the new beacon came out of the blue, (as is the signa= l >> hihi), Working on this, I've simply added a page to the uk500khz news >> group and posted links about to generate some interest and make sure the >> beacon details are known to hams and swl's out side this reflector .. >> >> >> >> The only thing that occurs to me is that there is a possibility for >> reception reports to be directed to the 5 meg group , I note that the >> graph generator by G4IRX requests your call and locator before processi= ng >> the file and presenting you with a plot. so I will see if anything can be >> done to prevent this , the data format is of course distorted by having >> only one active beacon.. so it will show up .. but may as yet be unexpect= ed >> ...! >> >> >> >> I note from previous email that the pulse aspect of the beacon is >> required for precise measurements, I think that may be possible to set up= a >> 'experiment' but the aspect of interference to other users may be >> significant, Andy has referred to the concept of 'phase reversal' in a >> continues carrier system (or medium pulse ?) that would perhaps be a >> acceptable mode of modulation, weather it could be transmitted by a 'norm= al' >> transmitter im note sure , but its worth noting that activities on 500, t= o >> date are not 'funded' as such and time and capital out lay are part of t= he >> 'hobby' and such hardware requirements and software re-writes are beyond >> many of the active stations. but perhaps as interest spreads .. things ma= y >> change ..? >> >> >> >> Tnx- >> >> >> >> Graham >> >> >> >> G0NBD >> >> IO83LK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* Beckmann, Gerhard >> >> *Sent:* Sunday, March 08, 2009 11:06 AM >> >> *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> >> *Cc:* 'Robert Hemesley' >> >> *Subject:* LF: AW: 503.7 Multi-function beacon ... Its working ! >> >> >> >> Hello Graham, Hello Andy, >> >> >> >> reading about your activities concerning Multi-function beacon I tried >> yesterday evening to catch your signals, but unfortunately with no result= s >> copying your sig. May be condx were not good enough. Moreover I had some >> bad manmade QRM from TV and PC. >> >> >> >> As Rob Hemesley told you I am active in 5-MHz-beaco- monitoring >> specially concerning scattergram monitoring in order to analyse signal p= ath >> situation (direct wave / sky wave behaviour). >> >> But I am running both analysis software, GB3RAL.exe and >> Scattergram.exe and it would not be any problem to modify the internal >> PC-clock specially regarding GB3RAL.exe in order to analyse the long term >> signal level of your Multi-function beacon. So I will try to continue >> monitoring your Multi-function beacon hopefully that condx will be better= in >> the next evening sessions (hi). >> >> If there will be Scattergram acties in future I certainly need some >> more dB signal level, but it would be very interesting to investigate the >> signal path situation. >> >> Of course, this is more interesting for those participants who are >> located in a distance range between 150 and 300 km in order to monitor th= e >> slide crossover from direct wave to sky wave signal path. >> >> However, thank you very much for implementation of your very >> interesting Multi-function beacon project and I will keep on running my >> monitoring activities and will inform you in any case about further resul= ts. >> >> >> >> vy 73 and a lot of success by running Multi-function beacons, I will be >> =93on the qui vive=94 !!! >> >> >> >> de Gerhard / DK6NI (JN59LN) >> >> >> >> By the way: >> >> Dial frequency 505.2 kHz, is that o.k.? (because GB3RAL.exe is decoding >> with 1500 Hz too). >> >> For BPSK31-decoding I am using DigiPan Vers.2.0 >> >> >> >> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> *Von:* owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto: >> owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] *Im Auftrag von *Graham >> *Gesendet:* Samstag, 7. M=E4rz 2009 23:46 >> *An:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> *Betreff:* LF: 503.7 Multi-function beacon ... Its working ! >> >> >> >> So far so good .. quite a step up in signal round 2100 hrs >> >> no frequency decode before then , 15 db over noise at 2130 >> >> >> >> but a trend showing >> >> about 1 hour slow qsb >> >> >> >> any other reports ? >> >> >> >> G .. >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.9/1988 - Release Date: 03/06/09 >> 19:17:00 >> > > ------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.9/1989 - Release Date: 03/07/09 > 18:43:00 > > --001636c5b680148a430464a24912 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Its exactly the same RF hardware as=A0the WSPR beacon was - the only di= fference is in the PIC code.=A0
=A0
Details are :
=A0 100W RF Out (peak / carrier)
=A0 7m high Tee antenna with 14m top span.
=A0 Gain estimate -27dB - based on Rrad / Rload measurements
=A0 ERP 23dBm.
=A0
There may be some small /low-res photos of the antenna in the 73kHz arc= hives somewhere - but I don't have good quality electronic copies.=A0 Th= ey were taken on film=A0a few years before before digital photography became= all-pervasive.
=A0
For info, the controller consists of an=A0AD9852 DDS clocked from a 13M= Hz TCXO (*4 internally for=A0a 52MHz DDS clock) controlled from a 16F628 PIC= .=A0 A Motorola Oncore GPS receiver supplies timing information as serial da= ta=A0and a 1PPS UTC reference pulse.
=A0
An early version of the PIC driver code can be found at http://www.g4jnt.com/NEWHFBCN.ASM=A0 The=20= latest version=A0has a few improvements, such as=A0raised cosine shaping on=20= the CW pulse rather than the linear ramp in the code shown
=A0
Power Amp. is a Kalmus broadband=A0module, =A0flat over =A00.5 to 40MHz= , rated at 200W max - so at 100W is substantially backed-off for good linear= ity.

Andy =A0G4JNT
www= .g4jnt.com


2009/3/8 Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
Andy,
=A0
Looks like I have a signal 6/10 db over= the=A0 noise during the=A0 day from 1200=A0 slow rise from 1500 =A0peak at=20= 1800 , dip at 1700=A0 and=A0 + 23 dB at 2015 .. seems to=A0 be a 1 hour qsb=20= cycle as well
=A0
I think Gary is set up=A0 also for=A0 2= 4 monitor period ... Im seeing signal levels recorded that are not=A0 showin= g on spec lab ..
=A0
Q, do you=A0 have some details of the= =A0 beacon,=A0 power , erp,=A0or=A0 web links I can add to=A0 the info page=20= ?
=A0
Tnx- G .. =A0
=A0

Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 6:26 PM
Subject: Re: LF: AW: 503.7 Multi-function beacon ... Its working= !

It is no trouble to continue the transmission.=A0 I have set up the equ= ipment in the garage where it does not get in the way of other shack activit= es, and won't do too much damage if the euipment blows up!=A0 So I can l= eave it running for a few weeks unless the antenna is needed for other purpo= ses..

Andy =A0G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com


2009/3/8 Beckmann, Gerhard <= beckmann.er= langen@freenet.de>

Hi G= raham,

=A0

Thank you for your statement!

Well actually, especially Scattergram or equal measurement method= s would be of interest regarding the aspect of signal path monitoring. (dire= ct wave / sky wave via cross correlation of pulse delay values).

However, the aspect of interferences by using 500us pulses has to= be taken into consideration but may be there are coming up suitable solutio= n by the LF-group.

Another method of monitoring the signal path on 500 kHz could pos= sibly performed by using the =93PSK Sounder=94 software from ZL2AFP. And wha= t I saw on a first glance it should be usable for transmission and reception= in order to monitor the signal path situation.

=A0

By the way:

Do you know if Andy is continuing the Multi-function beaconing on= 503.7 kHz?

In this case I would try long term signal monitoring by GB3RAL..e= xe and PSK message decoding within the next evening sessions.<= /p>

=A0

vy 73 de Gerhard / DK6NI

=A0

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

=A0

=A0

=A0

Von: owner-rsgb_= lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] <= span style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Im Auftrag von Graham
Gesendet: Sonntag, 8. M=E4rz= 2009 15:36=20

Betreff: Re= : LF: AW: 503.7 Multi-function beacon ... Its working !=20

=A0

Hi, Grerhard,

=A0

Andy's post about the=A0 new beacon came out of the=A0 blue,=20= (as is the signal hihi), Working on this, =A0I've simply added a page to= the=A0 uk500khz news group and posted links about to=A0 generate some inter= est and make sure=A0the beacon=A0details are known to hams and swl's out= side this reflector ..

=A0

The only thing that occurs to=A0 me is that there is a possibilit= y for reception reports to be=A0 directed to the 5 meg group , I note that t= he=A0 graph generator by G4IRX=A0 requests your call and locator=A0 before p= rocessing the file and presenting you with a plot. so I will see if anything= can be done to=A0 prevent this , the data format is of course distorted by=20= having only one active beacon.. so it will show up .. but may as yet be unex= pected ...!

=A0

I note from previous email that the pulse aspect of the=A0 beacon= is required for precise measurements, I think that may be possible to set u= p a 'experiment' =A0but the aspect of interference to=A0 other users= may be significant, Andy has referred to the concept of 'phase reversal= ' in a continues carrier system (or medium pulse ?) that would perhaps b= e a acceptable mode of modulation, weather it could be transmitted by a '= ;normal' transmitter im note sure , but its worth noting that activities= on 500, to date =A0are not 'funded' as such and time and capital ou= t lay are part of the 'hobby' and such hardware requirements =A0and=20= software re-writes are beyond many of the active stations. but perhaps as in= terest spreads .. things may change ..?

=A0

Tnx-

=A0

Graham

=A0

G0NBD

IO83LK

=A0

=A0

=A0

=A0

=A0

=A0

=A0

=A0

Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 11:06 AM

Subject:= LF: AW: 503.7 Multi-function beacon ... Its wor= king !

=A0

Hello Graham, Hello Andy,

=A0

reading about your activities concerning Multi-fun= ction beacon I tried yesterday evening to catch your signals, but unfortunat= ely with no results copying your sig. May be condx were not good enough.=A0=20= Moreover I had some bad manmade QRM from TV and PC.

=A0

=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 As Rob Hemesley told you I am acti= ve in 5-MHz-beaco- monitoring specially concerning=A0 scattergram monitoring= in order to analyse signal path situation (direct wave / sky wave behaviour= ).

=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 But I am running both analysis sof= tware, GB3RAL.exe and Scattergram.exe and it would not be any problem to mod= ify the internal PC-clock specially regarding GB3RAL.exe in order to analyse= the long term signal level of your Multi-function beacon. So I will try to=20= continue monitoring your Multi-function beacon hopefully that condx will be=20= better in the next evening sessions (hi).

=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 If there will be Scattergram actie= s in future I certainly need some more dB signal level, but it would be very= interesting to investigate the signal path situation.

=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Of course, this is more interestin= g for those participants who are located in a distance range between 150 and= 300 km in order to monitor the slide crossover from direct wave to sky wave= signal path.

=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0=A0However, thank you very much fo= r implementation of your very interesting Multi-function beacon project and=20= I will keep on running my monitoring activities and will inform you in any c= ase about further results.

=A0

vy 73 and a lot of success by running Multi-functi= on beacons, I will be =93on the qui vive=94 !!!

=A0

de Gerhard=A0 /=A0 DK6NI=A0 (JN59LN)=

=A0

By the way:

Dial frequency 505.2 kHz, is that o.k.? (because G= B3RAL.exe is decoding with 1500 Hz too).

For BPSK31-decoding I am using DigiPan Vers.2.0

=A0

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

=A0

=A0

=A0

Von: owner-rsgb_= lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] <= span style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Im Auftrag von Graham
Gesendet: Samstag, 7. M=E4rz= 2009 23:46
An: rsgb_lf_group@bla= cksheep.org
Betreff: LF: 503.7 Multi-fun= ction beacon ... Its working !

=A0

So far so good .. quite a step up in signal round 2100 hrs=A0

no frequency decode before then , 15 db over noise at 2130=

=A0

but a trend showing

about=A0 1 hour slow qsb

=A0

any other reports ?

=A0

G ..

=A0


No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 8.0.= .237 / Virus Database: 270.11.9/1988 - Release Date: 03/06/09 19:17:00



No virus found in this incoming message.
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--001636c5b680148a430464a24912-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg03.mx.aol.com (rly-dg03.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.87]) by air-dg07.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDG073-5b749b0187217a; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 13:22:53 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg03.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG038-5b749b0187217a; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 13:22:45 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LfID8-0007fU-Br for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 18:22:22 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LfID7-0007fL-LF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 18:22:21 +0000 Received: from vms173003pub.verizon.net ([206.46.173.3]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LfID6-00035D-92 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 18:22:21 +0000 Received: from DR2 ([71.184.212.10]) by vms173003.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KG100F2JPOUJJZF@vms173003.mailsrvcs.net> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 12:22:06 -0600 (CST) Message-id: From: "dave.riley3" To: Cc: "600MRG" References: <000a01c99a91$a54a1180$1402a8c0@e7010> <7.0.1.0.1.20090305091934.0181aca8@magma.ca> Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 13:22:05 -0500 MIME-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Deep copy... Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000F_01C99D95.60BBD420" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.1 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C99D95.60BBD420 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks to ALL who responded with quick and cogent findings... It has seemed for a time that with the receiver AGC and NBs OFF that I gener= ally can see a deeper signal, depending on conditions... The final audio filter assures that the program does not have to deal with n= oise outside of the passband of interest... TNX Here is today's gnawing question... What is the expected ambient noise say=20= @ 600M one should expect?? Rural, City, Country, remote battery operated, etc. combinations... Especial= ly well away from AC neutral wires... Today I ran the input to the SDR-IQ into a 50 ohm load and set a long integr= ate ( 64+ ) and saw approx -134 dbm of baseband noise with NO signals... I then connected to the outside antenna with no external pre-amp or any non=20= linear device and saw -117 dbm of noise across 10 khz. with a few weak and f= loating predictable BB noises.. At night it is sure to be up to near -100 dbm depending on conditions and no= ises present... What do YOU get for a noise difference between a terminated antenna input an= d your regular receive antenna?? I'm about to place several e-probes about this place in order to mix and mat= ch phase and amplitudes in order to see what net gain can be made to the SNR= with the hope that the most offending noises will not be in the path of a d= esired signal... TNX and ain't this fun??? Dave @ WD2XSH/17 =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Bill de Carle=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 9:58 AM Subject: Re: LF: Deep copy... At 09:25 PM 3/4/2009, you wrote: I seem to get best results while trying to pull signals out of the noise= when the AGC of the receiver is OFF as well as the Noise Blanker and Noise=20= reduction features being OFF... =20 Do you concur?? =20 Also setting a good audio filter to the passband of interest seems to by= pass some heavy static hits as well... I've noticed that when doing HF frequency measurement tests (working to th= e nearest milliHertz) - turning off the AGC under high static conditions see= ms to improve the accuracy of the measurement, at least with the software I=20= use. One plausible explanation is that AGC action necessarily introduces am= plitude modulation (on all signals in the passband). When I process the AGC= 'd signal with what amounts to a very narrow DSP filter the added amplitude=20= modulation shows up as apparent sidebands close-in on the signal I'm trying=20= to measure. If the power in those sidebands is comparable to that of the si= gnal whose frequency I'm looking for, the FFT algorithm (which assumes the r= eal signal has the largest amplitude) gets confused and comes up with an est= imated frequency somewhere between the correct value and that of a nearby si= deband. The effect is small however because the AGC pumping action doesn't=20= occur very fast so the added sidebands are seen to be only some milliHertz a= way from the signal. The sidebands occur on both sides of the "real" signal= , so one might expect them to cancel out but in practice they don't because=20= the amount of error depends on where the "real" signal falls with respect to= the fixed frequency bins of the FFT. It should be possible to model the AG= C action of a particular receiver and compensate for it in the software. No= doubt the phenomenon becomes less significant with smaller FFT's or shorter= integration times. Changing the AGC setting between SLOW-FAST-OFF might he= lp under some conditions. With QRSS-60 signaling rates it can take a long t= ime to find out which setting is optimum, especially when band conditions ar= e changing or the QSB period is close to a bit time, hi! VE2IQ ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C99D95.60BBD420 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks to ALL who responded with quick and cogen= t=20 findings...
 
It has seemed for a time that with the receiver=20= AGC=20 and NBs OFF that I generally can see a deeper signal, depending on=20 conditions...
 
The final audio filter assures that the program=20= does=20 not have to deal with noise outside of the passband of=20 interest...
 
TNX
 
 
Here is today's gnawing question...  What i= s the=20 expected ambient noise say @ 600M one should expect??
Rural, City, Country, remote battery operated, e= tc.=20 combinations... Especially well away from AC neutral=20 wires...
 
Today I ran the input to the=20 SDR-IQ <= FONT size=3D2>into a 50 ohm load and set a long integrate ( 64+ )  an= d saw approx=20 -134 dbm of baseband noise with NO signals...
 
I then connected to the outside antenna with no=20 external pre-amp or any non linear device and saw -117 dbm of noise across 1= 0=20 khz. with a few weak and floating predictable BB noises..
 
At night it is sure to be up to near -100 dbm=20 depending on conditions and noises present...
 
What do YOU get for a noise difference between a= =20 terminated antenna input and your regular receive=20 antenna??
 
I'm about to place several e-probes about this p= lace=20 in order to mix and match phase and amplitudes in order to see what net gain= can=20 be made to the SNR with the hope that the most offending noises will not be=20= in=20 the path of a desired signal...
 
TNX and ain't this fun???
 
Dave @ WD2XSH/17
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Bill de Carle=
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 9:58= =20 AM
Subject: Re: LF: Deep copy...

At 09:25 PM 3/4/2009, you wrote:
I seem=20= to get=20 best results while trying to pull signals out of the noise when the AGC=20= of=20 the receiver is OFF as well as the Noise Blanker and Noise reduction=20 features being OFF...
 
Do you=20 concur??
 
Also setting a good a= udio=20 filter to the passband of interest seems to bypass some heavy static hit= s as=20 well...

I've noticed that when doing HF frequ= ency=20 measurement tests (working to the nearest milliHertz) - turning off the AG= C=20 under high static conditions seems to improve the accuracy of the measurem= ent,=20 at least with the software I use.  One plausible explanation is that=20= AGC=20 action necessarily introduces amplitude modulation (on all signals in the=20 passband).  When I process the AGC'd signal with what amounts to a ve= ry=20 narrow DSP filter the added amplitude modulation shows up as apparent=20 sidebands close-in on the signal I'm trying to measure.  If the power= in=20 those sidebands is comparable to that of the signal whose frequency I'm=20 looking for, the FFT algorithm (which assumes the real signal has the larg= est=20 amplitude) gets confused and comes up with an estimated frequency somewher= e=20 between the correct value and that of a nearby sideband.  The effect=20= is=20 small however because the AGC pumping action doesn't occur very fast so th= e=20 added sidebands are seen to be only some milliHertz away from the=20 signal.  The sidebands occur on both sides of the "real" signal, so o= ne=20 might expect them to cancel out but in practice they don't because the amo= unt=20 of error depends on where the "real" signal falls with respect to the fixe= d=20 frequency bins of the FFT.  It should be possible to model the AGC ac= tion=20 of a particular receiver and compensate for it in the software.  No d= oubt=20 the phenomenon becomes less significant with smaller FFT's or shorter=20 integration times.  Changing the AGC setting between SLOW-FAST-OFF mi= ght=20 help under some conditions.  With QRSS-60 signaling rates it can take= a=20 long time to find out which setting is optimum, especially when band=20 conditions are changing or the QSB period is close to a bit time,=20 hi!

VE2IQ
------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C99D95.60BBD420-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db07.mx.aol.com (rly-db07.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.82]) by air-db01.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDB013-ad549c01b1e1bf; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 17:50:37 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db07.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB073-ad549c01b1e1bf; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 17:50:23 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LjhAp-0007aT-SH for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 21:50:11 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LjhAp-0007aK-GF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 21:50:11 +0000 Received: from smtp3.citigroup.com ([199.67.203.181] helo=mail.citigroup.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LjhAo-00032S-H8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 21:50:11 +0000 Received: from imbarc-eu01.eur.nsroot.net (imbarc-eu01.eu.ssmb.com [169.183.21.39]) by imbaspam-eu04.eur.nsroot.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/SSMB_EXT/ev: 22534 $) with ESMTP id n2HLo2pD020251; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 21:50:02 GMT Received: from mailhub-dc1.eu.ssmb.com (mailhub-dc1.eu.ssmb.com [169.186.145.234]) by imbarc-eu01.eur.nsroot.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/SSMB_QQQ_IN/1.1) with ESMTP id n2HLnshd005739; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 21:49:54 GMT Received: from exuksm04.eur.nsroot.net (EXUKSM04.eur.nsroot.net [169.186.220.125]) by mailhub-dc1.eu.ssmb.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/CG_HUB) with ESMTP id n2HLnqsF015189; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 21:49:53 GMT Received: from exukmb49.eur.nsroot.net ([169.183.32.64]) by exuksm04.eur.nsroot.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Tue, 17 Mar 2009 21:49:47 +0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6619.12 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 21:49:47 -0000 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [137kHz] Test de f1afj qrss60 Thread-Index: AcmnRT95NMEXeVfwTsm4UNqiyuh32AABLs7g From: "Scholz, Marco " To: Cc: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Mar 2009 21:49:47.0922 (UTC) FILETIME=[4AAFBF20:01C9A74A] X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 169.186.247.39 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: LF: RE: [137kHz] Test de f1afj qrss60 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Jean-Pierre, I have a good copy of your QRSS60 transmission in JN49ax. Picture i send you directly tomorrow morning. vy73 Marco DD7PC RX: FT-857 with 137KHz Preamp and Miniwhip ant. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksh= eep.org] On Behalf Of "Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 (F1AFJ)" Sent: 17 March 2009 22:10 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: [137kHz] Test de f1afj qrss60 Hello LF I am in test on 137775 qrss60, 300 W until 22:00z Your reports will be welco= me 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da01.mx.aol.com (rly-da01.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.75]) by air-da08.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA083-a4b49cfd61f24f; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 16:12:25 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da01.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA013-a4b49cfd61f24f; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 16:12:16 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lo1Ls-0005SY-NH for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 21:11:28 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lo1Ls-0005SP-Bt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 21:11:28 +0100 Received: from smtprelay-virgin0177.hostedemail.com ([64.99.136.177] helo=smtprelay-virgin.hostedemail.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lo1Lp-00085o-OU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 21:11:28 +0100 Received: from filter.hostedemail.com (ff-bigip1 [10.5.19.254]) by smtprelay04.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with SMTP id D0007525E24 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 20:10:46 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Summary: 50,0,0,ea7abe221ea7cfe2,6936aa9012d44e86,i.marsh@virgin.net,rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org,RULES_HIT:355:379:599:601:854:967:973:988:989:1187:1260:1261:1277:1311:1313:1314:1345:1359:1437:1515:1516:1518:1534:1539:1593:1594:1711:1730:1747:1766:1792:2194:2199:2393:2525:2560:2563:2682:2685:2828:2857:2859:2892:2933:2937:2939:2942:2945:2947:2951:2954:3022:3027:3352:3865:3866:3867:3868:3869:3870:3871:3872:3873:3876:3877:3934:3936:3938:3941:3944:3947:3950:3953:3956:3959:4250:4648:5007:6114:6119:7652:7679:7903:8501:8784:8828:8957:9025:9388,0,RBL:none,CacheIP:none,Bayesian:0.5,0.5,0.5,Netcheck:none,DomainCache:0,MSF:not bulk,SPF:,MSBL:none,DNSBL:none Received: from [192.168.1.64] (client-82-2-84-13.manc.adsl.virgin.net [82.2.84.13]) (Authenticated sender: i.marsh@virgin.net) by omf09.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 20:10:46 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <49CFD5C4.2090503@virgin.net> Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 21:10:44 +0100 From: Ian Marsh User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000501c9b09e$561f8f40$0b01a8c0@weazle> In-Reply-To: <000501c9b09e$561f8f40$0b01a8c0@weazle> X-session-marker: 692E6D617273684076697267696E2E6E6574 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: OT-Frequency question Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello J.B. The UK Coast Guard is MF and VHF only with R/T, DSC and Navtex. Other than for military traffic, I don't think there are any HF marine transmissions at all from the UK these days, although there is still HF weather FAX on 4610 KHz. Think it's operated by the navy. 73 Ian/G4EXD J. B. Weazle McCreath wrote: > Hello LFers, > > Do any of you happen to know if the British Coast Guard does > any weather or marine safety broadcasts using HF SITOR? > If so, can you give me some frequencies or point me to a > source of such information. Thanks in advance. > > 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL > Solar and wind powered > Lowfer " EAR" 188.830 > EN93dr > > http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf02.mx.aol.com (rly-mf02.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.172]) by air-mf09.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMF092-94749c76307246; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 06:23:23 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf02.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF025-94749c76307246; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 06:23:05 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LlhIa-0005g6-HV for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 10:22:28 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LlhIa-0005fx-3M for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 10:22:28 +0000 Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.198.251]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LlhIW-0003BG-Jz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 10:22:27 +0000 Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id l33so1818412rvb.4 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 03:22:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=A+ydBGJinc/m7gVjtgimU+OgN54gKSBjAIN5O2gDS1M=; b=affqMu0Ai/4+83Hhic5BSAfnwyKI/m+TrPLELbwNw4efJrszUUBa6HFIoPGmnkFtM0 BVZmRbBgnFooy//zetE1uIxb24ePO4hUuu72sUKcWZSyTZZN0XxZvGsaiIZdQZNhylBI aOjGe07LIpWxnWwPW98k2djfF4BlkqNUP2qks= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=sS3Bsaax7LVX/aBxZRLdmSL2XDHgMvY3NHmCaDI/ln8hCmPA6U08UAcOkiU2cWf1X7 Q1UApihseOuyJJdrH9tc0gdMNoEg3Bdo42flVaLv0nibHtJKwqgCf5Eq0YZXW2/woltC nZY33FG7PZkwSqZQJsu5Xr6PEt0rohc7SiB8E= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.114.183.1 with SMTP id g1mr4185262waf.140.1237803742498; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 03:22:22 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 10:22:22 +0000 Message-ID: <5931f8db0903230322l32c6424i6e35d6764448381b@mail.gmail.com> From: Harry Woodhouse To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Subject: Re: LF: RE: 136kHz activity 21 March [G3MFW] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00163646ca825f97580465c6a4b9 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m204.2 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --00163646ca825f97580465c6a4b9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Dave & others on LF Group. I have just joined the LF Group - I'm afraid I find the internet rather challenging! I am amazed at the help and friendship I have received. Thank you all for your encouragement. I have learned a lot already from the Group, and will continue to read & learn. I cannot transmit on Sundays - we are involved with our local village church, but I hope to be on again next Saturday morning 28th March. If members have no time for a QSO, your reports are most welcome. Best 73s, Harry G3MFW On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 11:28 PM, wrote: > Thanx Dave,very interresting measures. > > > *F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP > http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/* > > > > Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 22/03/2009 23:08:24 Paris, Madrid, > ganymede444@btopenworld.com a =E9crit : > > LF, > > Congratulations to Harry G3MFW for putting a very strong signal into > IO91RM. > Screenshot attached. Mike G3XDV also captured on the screenshot. > > Signal strengths measured on my "Tee" antenna with the SPM-30 as follows:- > > G3XDV -42 dBm > G3MFW -61 dBm > F6BWO -70 dBm > F4DTL -73 dBm > Noise floor -80 dBm in 24 Hz bandwidth > > > 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor, SE England > > > > > --00163646ca825f97580465c6a4b9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Dave & others on LF Group. I have just joined the LF Group - I'= m afraid I find the internet rather challenging! I am amazed at the help and= friendship I have received. Thank you all for your encouragement. I have le= arned a lot already from the Group, and will continue to read & learn. I= cannot transmit on Sundays - we are involved with our local village church,= but I hope to be on again next Saturday morning 28th March. If members have= no time for a QSO, your reports are most welcome.
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Best 73s,
=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Harry G3MFW<= br>
On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 11:28 PM, <F4DTL@aol.com>= wrote:
Thanx Dave,very interresting measures.
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F4DTL=20 Nicolas JN18FP
http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/
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Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 22/03/2009 23:08:24 Paris, Madrid,=20 ganymede444= @btopenworld.com a =E9crit :
LF= ,

Congratulations to Harry G3MFW for putting a very strong=20 signal into IO91RM.
Screenshot attached. Mike G3XDV also captured on th= e=20 screenshot.

Signal strengths measured on my "Tee" antenna= with the=20 SPM-30 as follows:-

G3XDV -42 dBm
G3MFW -61 dBm
F6BWO=A0=20 =A0 -70 dBm
F4DTL -73 dBm
Noise floor -80 dBm in 24 Hz=20 bandwidth


73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor, SE=20 England



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--00163646ca825f97580465c6a4b9-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh07.mx.aol.com (rly-mh07.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.143]) by air-mh04.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMH044-be449c01ed8207; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 18:06:35 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh07.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH074-be449c01ed8207; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 18:06:17 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LjhQ9-0007r1-Dr for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 22:06:01 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LjhQ9-0007qs-24 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 22:06:01 +0000 Received: from bay0-omc3-s27.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.227]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LjhQ6-00039I-Vk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 22:06:01 +0000 Received: from BAY101-W21 ([64.4.56.121]) by bay0-omc3-s27.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 17 Mar 2009 15:05:48 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [212.4.140.33] From: Lubos OK2BVG To: Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 23:05:48 +0100 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <49C01194.2010305@online.fr> References: <49C01194.2010305@online.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Mar 2009 22:05:48.0902 (UTC) FILETIME=[8779A860:01C9A74C] X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_af3a8542-eabf-4118-ac1a-ec52f1c1cd62_" Subject: RE: LF: [137kHz] Test de f1afj qrss60 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_af3a8542-eabf-4118-ac1a-ec52f1c1cd62_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Jean-Pierre, LF! Your signal is FB "O" here in JN88KS. Lubos, OK2BVG > Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 22:09:40 +0100 > From: jpm.f1afj@online.fr > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: LF: [137kHz] Test de f1afj qrss60 >=20 > Hello LF > I am in test on 137775 qrss60, 300 W until 22:00z > Your reports will be welcome > 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj >=20 _________________________________________________________________ Pozvi sv=E9 p=F8=E1tele z Facebooku a Hotmailu do Messengeru! https://www.invite2messenger.net/Default.aspx=3D --_af3a8542-eabf-4118-ac1a-ec52f1c1cd62_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Jean-Pierre, LF!
Your signal is FB "O" here in JN88KS.

Lubos= , OK2BVG



> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 22:09:40 +0100
> F= rom: jpm.f1afj@online.fr
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep..org
> S= ubject: LF: [137kHz] Test de f1afj qrss60
>
> Hello LF
>=20= I am in test on 137775 qrss60, 300 W until 22:00z
> Your reports will=20= be welcome
> 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj
>

St=E1hn=ECte= si zcela nov=FD Messenger 2009! 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193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d239.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Thank you Jean-Pierre for the report and the 'grabber'! --=20 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 3:15 AM, "Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 (F1AFJ)" wrote: > Hello LF , > > Very good copy WD2XGJ and WD2XKO last night . > Thank you Warren and Dex for beaconning > > 73 qro Jean-Pierre F1AFJ > http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm > > --=20 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf05.mx.aol.com (rly-mf05.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.175]) by air-mf07.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMF074-95b49c9ead9233; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 04:27:19 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf05.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF051-95b49c9ead9233; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 04:27:08 -0400 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------=_NextPart_000_007E_01C9A27B.8D9D4060-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf04.mx.aol.com (rly-mf04.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.174]) by air-mf06.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMF062-95749b1362e1e9; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 09:42:04 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf04.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF045-95749b1362e1e9; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 09:41:52 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LfbEy-0004fF-Vt for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 14:41:32 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LfbEy-0004f6-5C for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 14:41:32 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.151] helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LfbEw-0000PM-8o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 14:41:32 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3512.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id C2CDB7000084 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 15:41:22 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.23.203]) by mwinf3512.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 3CC027000083 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 15:41:22 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20090306144122248.3CC027000083@mwinf3512.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <9C03FBF153AB478A9B0DBC5580CF20D2@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <0566EF6DE20B4249A3E74859BF9BA2C6@AGB> In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 14:41:21 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8064.206 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8064.206 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Multi-function beacon Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_005A_01C99E69.9DF7FEC0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_005A_01C99E69.9DF7FEC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ok Andy, Obvious question, hi,=20 How long are you thinking of running the beacon and where do you want th= e report files to be sent ? There may be quite a few records generated in a short time, I note from the=20= last 'hfc' that there is quite a backlog of data from the 5 meg operation=20= but there is movement to analyse the data. should prove interesting .. =20 How aggressive is the pulsed section of the tx cycle,?, I know there is som= e interest in using that facility for study's on 500, but as yet I have not=20= found the rise/fall and timing parameters. dose it need to be a pulse or =20= could a small frequency shift be used if time is being measured ? Tnx- G ..=20 From: Andy Talbot=20 Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 1:11 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: Multi-function beacon There is no auto reporting feature in that S/W. It generates a log file c= ontaining S/N of each beacon / time slot, which the user then has to persona= lly send to the 5MHz working group. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/3/6 Graham Andy, Quick Q .. is the reception software capable of auto reporting to the 5=20= meg group ? I have an idea it has this facility .or at least produces a -5 meg- repor= t file . if so can it be turned off ? G ..=20 From: Andy Talbot=20 Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 11:03 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Cc: jfell@tesco.net=20 Subject: LF: Multi-function beacon I've now started transmitting a timed beacon signal on 503.7kHz that is i= dentical in format to that of GB3SSS operated over the winter months of the=20= last two years from Poldhu on 1.9 and 3.5MHz, and has a similar signal str= ucture to the 5MHz beacons, GB3RAL, WES and ORK. These all have an initial=20= CW ident and stepped power levels for aural reception, and a precisely defin= ed period of full-power plain carrier for S/N measurements. =20 See http://www.rsgb-spectrumforum.org.uk/5mhz%20beacons.htm for the com= plete 5MHz signal structure. For this MF transmission, as on GB3SSS, the p= ulsed sounder sequence of the 5MHz beacons is replaced with a PSK31 message=20= which lasts from 30s to approx 48 seconds after the start Auto Monitoring software writen by G3PLX is available for monitoring these= beacons, it measures signal to noise during the carrier period and saves to= file as well as plotting the last 40 hours worth of measurements. The software can be downloaded from http://www.rsgb.org/spectrumforum/hf/= beaconauto.php . PSK31 data can be copied with Digipan, Fldigi, PSK31SBW o= r a host of other packages. TIMING=20 The 503.7kHz transmission takes place every 15 minutes at 4 minutes past t= he quarter hour. =20 ie each transmission starts at xx:04, xx:19, xx:34 and xx:49 This time=20= slot has been selected so that the transmission do not interfere with my con= tinuous ongoing reception of the 5Mhz beacons - the active antenna used for=20= these is overloaded by the 500kHz signal and I have already lost data when t= he WSPR beacon transmission coincided with one of the monitoring windows. NOTE If using the G3PLX software, this only monitors for the three 5MHz=20= beacons at 00, 01 and 02 minutes. SO IT WILL BE NECESSARY TO FRIG THE SOFTWARE to monitor this transmission= at the 04 minute point. The necessary alteration can be done by firstly s= etting your PC clock accurately to the correct time, then setting the Track=20= Time box to -240 (minus 240 seconds). This will make the software look for=20= this transmission during the time window it thinks it would be receiving GB3= RAL, and log the MF transmission during the first minute, on the red trace,=20= as if it were GB3RAL=20 The beacon uses the identical hardware to the WSPR transmissions of the la= st few weeks, with the the only change being a reprogramming of the controll= er PIC. In fact the very same hardware was previously loaned to the Poldhu= club for their beacons, with the only difference being a change to the fina= l Low Pass filter on the output of the broadband PA. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.8/1985 - Release Date: 03/05/09=20= 07:54:00 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- No virus found in this incoming message. 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Ok Andy,
 
Obvious question, hi,
 
How long are you  thinking of running=20 the  beacon and where do  you  want the report files to = be=20 sent ?
 
There may be quite a few records generated=20= in a=20 short time, I note from the last 'hfc' th= at there=20 is quite a backlog of data from the  5  meg operation but there is= =20 movement
to analyse the  data. should prove int= eresting=20 ...  
 
How aggressive is the pulsed section of the=  =20 tx cycle,?, I know there is some interest in using that facility for study's= on=20 500, but as yet I have not  found the rise/fall and timing parameters.=20= dose=20 it need to  be a pulse or  could a small frequency shift be used i= f=20 time is being measured ?
 
Tnx- G ..
 
 
 
 
 
 

Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 1:11 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Multi-function beacon

There is no auto reporting feature in that S/W.    It=20 generates a log file containing S/N of each beacon / time slot, which the us= er=20 then has to personally send to the 5MHz working group.

Andy  G4JNT
= www.g4jnt.com


2009/3/6 Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
Andy,
 
Quick Q .. is the  reception softwar= e=20 capable of auto reporting to the  5 meg group ?
 
I have an idea it has this  facility= .or at=20 least produces a -5 meg- report file . if so can it be turned off=20 ?
 
 
G ..

Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 11:03 AM
Subject: LF: Multi-function beacon

I've now started transmitting a timed  beacon signal on=20 503.7kHz that is identical in format to that of GB3SSS operated over=20= the=20 winter months of the last two years  from Poldhu on 1.9 and 3.5M= Hz,=20  and has a similar signal structure to the 5MHz beacons, GB3RAL,= WES=20 and ORK.  These all have an initial CW ident and stepped po= wer=20 levels for aural reception, and a precisely defined period of full-po= wer=20 plain carrier for S/N measurements.  
See   http://www.rsgb-spectrumforum.org.uk/= 5mhz%20beacons.htm =20 for the complete 5MHz  signal structure.  For this MF=20 transmission, as on GB3SSS, the pulsed sounder sequence of the 5MHz beacon= s is=20 replaced with a PSK31 message which lasts from 30s to approx 48 secon= ds=20 after the start
 
Auto Monitoring software writen by G3PLX is available for monitoring=20 these beacons, it measures signal to noise during the carrier period and s= aves=20 to file as well as plotting the last 40 hours worth of measurements.
The software can be downloaded from  http://www.rsgb= .org/spectrumforum/hf/beaconauto.php .  =20 PSK31 data can be copied with Digipan, Fldigi, PSK31SBW or a host of other= =20 packages.
 
TIMING
The 503.7kHz transmission takes place every 15 minutes at 4 minutes p= ast=20 the quarter hour. 
ie each transmission starts at xx:04, xx:19, xx:34 and=20 xx:49    This time slot has been selected so=20= that=20 the transmission do not interfere with my continuous ongoing reception of=20= the=20 5Mhz beacons - the active antenna used for these is overloaded by the 500k= Hz=20 signal and I have already lost data when the WSPR beacon transmission=20 coincided with one of the monitoring windows.
 
NOTE   If using the G3PLX software, this=20 only monitors for the three 5MHz beacons at  00, 01 and 02=20 minutes.
SO IT WILL BE NECESSARY TO FRIG THE SOFTWARE=20  to monitor this transmission at the 04 minute=20 point.   The necessary alteration can be done by firstly=20 setting your PC clock accurately to the correct time, then setting th= e=20 Track Time box to -240 (minus 240 seconds).  This will make the softw= are=20 look for this transmission during the time window it thinks it would=20= be=20 receiving GB3RAL, and log the MF transmission during the first minute= , on=20 the red trace, as if it were GB3RAL 
 
The beacon uses the identical hardware to the WSPR transmissions= =20 of the last few weeks, with the the only change being=20 a reprogramming of the controller PIC.   In fact the very s= ame=20 hardware was previously loaned to the Poldhu club for their beacons, with=20= the=20 only difference being a change to the final Low Pass filter on the output=20= of=20 the broadband PA.
 
Andy  G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com


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------=_NextPart_000_005A_01C99E69.9DF7FEC0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de04.mx.aol.com (rly-de04.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.140]) by air-de03.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDE032-4cb49be8a621d2; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 13:20:57 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de04.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE042-4cb49be8a621d2; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 13:20:36 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LjGTk-00050d-Uu for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 17:19:56 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LjGTk-00050U-78 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 17:19:56 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.128]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LjGTg-0000xo-54 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 17:19:56 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3417.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 528A71C00087 for ; 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SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0046_01C9A65B.64F43310 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0047_01C9A65B.64F43310" ------=_NextPart_001_0047_01C9A65B.64F43310 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Gary, The page seemed to refresh quite often ... are there two settings ?=20 G ..=20 From: Gary - G4WGT=20 Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:40 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software Hi Graham, LF, =20 You wrote :- >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute interval= s. <<< that could be backed off to 15 mins as the beacon only sends every=20= 15 ??=20 =20 I mentioned in my previous mail to ignore the text on the page as it was ori= ginally for grabber 1 for when I upgrade the web site (to a new design & bet= ter navigation etc), also mentioned is that upload is every 30 minutes. =20 If the uploaded chart proves useful or interesting to operators & viewers th= en I will change the text & make it a permanent feature for the foreseeable=20= future. =20 BTW :- =20 For those of you who are not familiar with the chart -=20 =20 The RED trace is Andy's (G4JNT) beacon signal & the BLACK trace is the noise= level at my QTH. =20 The Blue & GREEN are not in use & should be ignored on this chart as they ar= e for the other beacons used when monitoring on the 5MHz allocation. =20 Cheers, =20 Gary - G4WGT =20 =20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksh= eep.org] On Behalf Of Graham Sent: 15 March 2009 22:17 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software =20 Gary.. =20 That looks good ... 0500 looks best time for a qso .. see you then =20 =20 >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute interval= s. <<< that could be backed off to 15 mins as the beacon only sends every=20= 15 ??=20 =20 the 15 db over the noise in day time is the same at this qth .. looks like= the big dips round 1900 where just when we where testing .. typical hihi =20 tnx- G ..=20 =20 From: Gary - G4WGT=20 Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 7:55 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: LF: RE: Syncback software =20 LF, =20 I have now got the software, Syncback running correctly (I think). =20 The purpose of this is to upload the chart from Andy's beacon as received he= re to my web site periodically, ie. every 30 minutes. =20 I now have a receiver running 24/7 monitoring Andy,s beacon on 503.7KHz. =20 You can view the chart on my web site at :- =20 http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html =20 For the moment ignore the text on the page as it is originally designed to u= se with the 500KHz grabber when I renew my web site design. If it is a usefu= l upload I will make it a permanent feature but may have to extend the frequ= ency coverage of grabber 1 so not to overload the PC with operations which w= ill cause the PC to struggle. =20 Let me have your comments please. =20 73 =20 Gary - G4WGT. =20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksh= eep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT Sent: 15 March 2009 16:10 To: LF -RSGB LF Group Subject: LF: Syncback software =20 Hi LF, =20 If anyone is using Syncback software & can help, please. =20 I am tying to upload a file to my website who's filename does not change, on= ly the file size changes. I tried to do it with Argo-upload but failed so I=20= downloaded Syncback & still failing. =20 Syncback gives me the following message :- =20 ********************************** Can connect, but unable to change to destination directory: /chart01.bmp:not a directory ********************************** The Syncback help does not give me the answer. =20 Any help will be appreciated =20 Or =20 Will Argo-Upload do it? =20 Or =20 Is there something else to do it? =20 Thanks in anticipation, =20 73, =20 Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. =20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.13/2001 - Release Date: 03/14/09 0= 6:54:00 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.15/2003 - Release Date: 03/15/09 1= 4:07:00 ------=_NextPart_001_0047_01C9A65B.64F43310 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Gary,
 
The page seemed to  refresh quite ofte= n ...=20 are there two settings ?
 
G ..

Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:40 AM
Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software

H= i=20 Graham, LF,

<= o:p> 

Y= ou=20 wrote :-

>>>Upload=20 is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute intervals.=20 <<< that could be backed off to  15 mins as the beacon only&nb= sp;=20 sends every 15 ??

<= o:p> 

I= =20 mentioned in my previous mail to ignore the text on the page as it was=20 originally for grabber 1 for when I upgrade the web site (to a new design &a= mp;=20 better navigation etc), also mentioned is that upload is every 30=20 minutes.

<= o:p> 

I= f=20 the uploaded chart proves useful or interesting to operators & viewers t= hen=20 I will change the text & make it a permanent feature for the foreseeable= =20 future.

<= o:p> 

B= TW=20 :-

<= o:p> 

F= or=20 those of you  who are not familiar with the chart =96=20

<= o:p> 

T= he=20 RED trace is Andy=92s (G4JNT) beacon signal & the BLACK trace is the noi= se=20 level at my QTH.

<= o:p> 

T= he=20 Blue & GREEN are not in use & should be ignored on this chart as the= y=20 are for the other beacons used when monitoring on the 5MHz=20 allocation.

<= o:p> 

C= heers,

<= o:p> 

G= ary=20 =96 G4WGT

<= o:p> 

<= o:p> 

From: owner-rsgb_= lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham
Sent: 15 March= 2009 22:17
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
<= SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback=20 software

 

Ga= ry..

 

That looks good  ... 0500 looks=20 best time for a qso .. see you then 3D"Smile 

 

>>>= Upload is=20 set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute intervals. <<&l= t;=20 that could be backed off to  15 mins as the beacon only  sends eve= ry=20 15 ??

 

the  15= db over=20 the noise in day time is the  same at this qth .. looks like the big di= ps=20 round 1900  where just when we where testing ..  typical=20 hihi

 

tnx- G ..=20

 

From: Gary - G4WGT=20

Sent: Sunday,=20 March 15, 2009 7:55 PM

Subject: LF: RE:=20 Syncback software

 

L= F,

<= o:p> 

I= =20 have now got the software, Syncback running correctly (I=20 think).

<= o:p> 

T= he=20 purpose of this is to upload the chart from Andy=92s beacon as received here= to my=20 web site periodically, ie. every 30 minutes.

<= o:p> 

I= =20 now have a receiver running 24/7 monitoring Andy,s beacon on=20 503.7KHz.

<= o:p> 

Y= ou=20 can view the chart on my web site at :-

<= o:p> 

<= A href=3D"http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html">http://myweb.= tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html

<= o:p> 

F= or=20 the moment ignore the text on the page as it is originally designed to use w= ith=20 the 500KHz grabber when I renew my web site design. If it is a useful upload= I=20 will make it a permanent feature but may have to extend the frequency covera= ge=20 of grabber 1 so not to overload the PC with operations which will cause the=20= PC=20 to struggle.

<= o:p> 

L= et=20 me have your comments please.

<= o:p> 

7= 3

<= o:p> 

G= ary=20 =96 G4WGT.

<= o:p> 

From: owner-rsgb_= lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT
Sent: 15= March 2009 16:10
To: <= st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">LF -RSGB LF=20 Group
Subject:=20 LF: Syncback software

=

 

Hi=20 LF,

 

If anyone is=20 using Syncback software & can help, please.=

 

I am tying to=20 upload a file to my website who=92s filename does not change, only the file=20= size=20 changes. I tried to do it with Argo-upload but failed so I downloaded Syncba= ck=20 & still failing.

 

Syncback gives me=20 the following message :-

 

***************************= *******

Can connect, but=20 unable to change to destination directory:

/chart01.bmp:not=20 a directory

***************************= *******

The Syncback help=20 does not give me the answer.

 

Any help will be=20 appreciated

 

Or=

 

Will Argo-Upload=20 do it?

 

Or=

 

Is there=20 something else to do it?

 

Thanks in=20 anticipation,

 

73,=

 

Gary - G4WGT -=20 IO83QP.

 


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193.82.116.20 Hello Rik, Many thanks for the reception report, especially for daytime reception this is very good. Still running in the 50 mW ERP range (1 A antenna current, 8 m long antenna). Best 73 Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rik Strobbe" To: Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 9:34 PM Subject: LF: 500kHz daytime > Dear all, > > as I checked the band at 15 UTC today I noticed very good daytime > signals from DI2AM (612km) and OK0EMW (904km) as well as DI2BO (402km) > on 440kHz. > > 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > > Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da09.mx.aol.com (rly-da09.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.83]) by air-da02.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDA021-a8d49c09af91da; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 02:56:16 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da09.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA095-a8d49c09af91da; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 02:55:55 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LjpgK-0003F0-Ub for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 06:55:16 +0000 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Hi Lf,
capture DI2BO
Henny pa3cpm
73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
DI2BO 20-03.jpg

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China To: , , alanmelia melia , Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 15:52:03 -0800 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Mar 2009 23:52:03.0454 (UTC) FILETIME=[349759E0:01C9A692] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_4b85166f-1f18-479f-8158-a9c4297c5da5_" Subject: LF: Costa rica ops X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_4b85166f-1f18-479f-8158-a9c4297c5da5_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" 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See how. =3D --_4b85166f-1f18-479f-8158-a9c4297c5da5_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg01.mx.aol.com (rly-mg01.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.107]) by air-mg09.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMG093-9f549c22af667; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 07:22:51 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg01.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG017-9f549c22af667; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 07:22:32 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LkGKF-0003hr-It for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 11:22:15 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LkGKF-0003hi-5z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 11:22:15 +0000 Received: from mailout09.t-online.de ([194.25.134.84]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LkGKD-0001iI-GQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 11:22:15 +0000 Received: from fwd01.aul.t-online.de by mailout09.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 1LkGK9-0005kJ-00; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 12:22:09 +0100 Received: from e7010 (rPGJOgZCwhCM3lnRDmFLc2OWksBwUr5O5GaX4gnIk7FQh+vAT9jwae4I4Rken-uQMp@[84.147.205.119]) by fwd01.aul.t-online.de with smtp id 1LkGJi-0LFAGW0; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 12:21:42 +0100 Message-ID: <000d01c9a884$e1bab970$1402a8c0@e7010> From: "Walter und Marianne Staubach" To: References: <000901c9a81c$6147b5d0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 12:21:42 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4927.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 X-ID: rPGJOgZCwhCM3lnRDmFLc2OWksBwUr5O5GaX4gnIk7FQh+vAT9jwae4I4Rken-uQMp X-TOI-MSGID: 9a3242b7-3fb6-442c-b288-a73b21eafa19 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: WE2XGR/2 WSPR Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Please at what time in UTC exactly? 73 Walter DI2AG ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "SHMRG@piobaire.mines.ui" ; "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep" ; Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 11:53 PM Subject: LF: WE2XGR/2 WSPR > WE2XPR/2 will be transmitting in WSPR mode tonight on 508.52 kHz (507.00 dial)...trying for copy by > KL1X DXpedition in Costa Rica. > > Reports from other areas are of course appreciated. > > Jat W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df06.mx.aol.com (rly-df06.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.19]) by air-df05.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDF052-55849c0f30615f; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 09:11:36 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df06.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF063-55849c0f30615f; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 09:11:36 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LjvXt-0006cw-23 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 13:10:57 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LjvXs-0006cn-Mj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 13:10:56 +0000 Received: from mail-qy0-f107.google.com ([209.85.221.107]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LjvXp-0006ro-UR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 13:10:56 +0000 Received: by qyk5 with SMTP id 5so22362qyk.30 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 06:10:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=+hHFn671upZX+XoyLBLnEGiViGqUlA2qsHpWssf8spk=; b=O9Q1KsBtdHnpmf+R6PSQk12/LOLvutOtWn0dKE8DGLjM/YLbWmlX7A9eAhwEStn5cz ulK+UU9/yp60MdJ8JkDbKnJFyyZka5rHpKAD4W23ywIVrkPJZKnbdDh1Sg9uae7uf6/I yZLtGEBxTAV2UrYZnqJRFk6omBBbm0TaL2fEw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=FQ4/3kz1IAA66Am9ksnDBVTVtDEKJcZIglZsdzRJ35vIGxF7/8xieE8khQb5szMm4b 6xJT5IMETEhiOqYCwwN17QkRTE/vp/XA6Q9+fhgMxjB7K3pEPdQXgv7la4d4ZdwN9oK6 h1PsDrEQX8vwhHtWNC6b3L8MiwXd7XunTfBy4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.74.75 with SMTP id t11mr1932274qaj.144.1237380531731; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 05:48:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 08:48:51 -0400 Message-ID: <57a24ca70903180548s601fa61dkd6377ac84e1c7742@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: XGJ_XKO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d282.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Lubos, Thanks for monitoring. Hopefully there will be better conditions soon! --=20 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 2009/3/18 Lubos OK2BVG : > Hello Warren, LF! > I saw traces of=A0 callsigns XGJ and XKO only. The weather was awful last > night. It was raining and there were strong wind and storm here. But it is > clear now, so I hope this night will be better. > > 73 > > Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS > > ________________________________ > St=E1hn=ECte si zcela nov=FD Messenger 2009! Klikni zde! --=20 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg08.mx.aol.com (rly-mg08.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.114]) by air-mg04.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMG044-a2849b825eb59; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 16:58:49 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg08.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG082-a2849b825eb59; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 16:58:21 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LhVV5-0003gD-I1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 20:58:03 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LhVV4-0003g4-EG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 20:58:02 +0000 Received: from mout2.freenet.de ([195.4.92.92]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LhVUx-0005xa-KF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 20:58:02 +0000 Received: from [195.4.92.22] (helo=12.mx.freenet.de) by mout2.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID beckmann.erlangen@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #76) id 1LhVUw-00034l-9x; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 21:57:54 +0100 Received: from w1e26.w.pppool.de ([89.58.30.38]:1169 helo=2a2d7ed321c6425) by 12.mx.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID beckmann.erlangen@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #76) id 1LhVUt-00040c-JT; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 21:57:54 +0100 From: "Beckmann, Gerhard" To: Cc: "'Chris Osborn'" References: <661888.79627.qm@web28507.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <0ADA06CA43A34FB2A0AF972E6D77252A@2a2d7ed321c6425> Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 21:57:54 +0100 Message-ID: <7EEF2A7C36F34458B2C6EE0A272C6F05@2a2d7ed321c6425> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <0ADA06CA43A34FB2A0AF972E6D77252A@2a2d7ed321c6425> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: AclxcDZq9dgJStjFRyyzJejyT3EpWgAZTqFQDC15OiA= X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Subject: LF: Reception Report: G3XIZ calling CQ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001B_01C9A294.6FA31CB0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C9A294.6FA31CB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Chris, Group, =20 I am receiving your CQ-Call in Normal CW-Mode !!! on 502.7 kHz loud and clea= r,=20 fine audible here in JN59LN. =20 vy 73 de Gerhard // DK6NI =20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =20 _____ =20 Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blackshe= ep.org] Im Auftrag von Beckmann, Gerhard Gesendet: Donnerstag, 8. Januar 2009 22:43 An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Cc: 'Chris Osborn' Betreff: LF: 500 kHz - Silent majority =20 Hallo Chris, =20 just now I read your sad message about reducing your CW-activities on 500 kc= . Because this band is unfortunately still not released for German radio amate= urs, I am often listening for stations in CW- and QRSS - Mode, and I am alwa= ys happy to hear someone on this very interesting frequency. Also it should be taken into consideration, that not all OM=E2=80=99s are fa= miliar with the new Digital Modes on this experimental band. So I would be very happy if there would operate some OM=E2=80=99s still in t= he =E2=80=9Ctraditional modes=E2=80=9D. Last but not least only these modes are allowing crossband.QSO=E2=80=99s whi= ch are making our hobby somewhat more interesting. =20 vy 73 de Gerhard / DK6NI =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 _____ =20 Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blackshe= ep.org] Im Auftrag von Chris Osborn Gesendet: Donnerstag, 8. Januar 2009 10:02 An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Betreff: LF: 500 kHz - Silent majority =20 I deduce that my (fairly) frequent transmissions on MF may be causing some annoyance and inconvenience to local stations. =20 Consequently I shall be QRT on 500 kHz for the remainder of this month. This will give local stations an opportunity to use a quiet band without G3XIZ QRM. =20 I must report that sadly Adrian G4GDR has dismantled his MF equipment and returned his N.O.V. to OfCom. He was an active and keen MF operator and constructor but has lost interest=20= due to lack of activity. I for one will miss him. =20 73 Chris G3XIZ =20 =20 =20 _____ =20 From: Dave G3WCB To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Monday, 5 January, 2009 22:22:55 Subject: RE: LF: Re: Silent majority =EF=BB=BF=20 Dear LF,=20 =20 Geri DK8KW and Markus did some interesting slow-voice experiments on 137 kHz= a few years back.=20 =20 Definitely not a DX-mode, and a bit of a bandwidth-gobbler too ;-) =20 Follow the link below:-=20 =20 http://www.qru.de/slowvoice.html =20 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM =20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep..org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacks= heep.org]On Behalf Of M0FMT Sent: 05 January 2009 02:37 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep..org Subject: Re: LF: Re: Silent majority Hi LF=20 Since by general consent the 600m band is now wide open for experimentation=20= of whatever computer aided mode that can be down loaded for free off the Int= ernet. Might I suggest the use of SSTV. They say a picture is worth a 1000 w= ords. I have thousands of holiday snaps I would like to share with the world= by way of a 24/7 beaconing experiment. The result may be a bit more intere= sting than the shopping lists of stations worked, equipment lists and rig sp= ecifications that get churned out ad nauseam over the weekends.=20 I am not sure what my afore mentioned local Amateur Radio 600m op friends wo= uld feel being only a few miles away from my QTH.=20 No, the above suggestion is ridiculous. It does however, Einstein, Planck et= al withstanding, beg the question; what is a suitable maximum bandwidth for= the development of new modes on our British 3Kc/s 600m band? I will start=20= the ball rolling by saying a BW no more than 50c/s. G3PLX managed with less=20= than 32c/s BW. Since there is a QSB / QRN issue on this band then hand shaki= ng could be introduced to ensure error free data transfer a bit like X25 slo= w but sure yet confined in a very narrow bandwidth say 50c/s max. We need t= o think outside the box and not try to shoe horn unsuitable modes onto 600m.= To evoke names like Planck and co with all due respect to Alberto (who I ad= mire immensely for his great innovations with DSP, SDR, FFT processing softw= are) I think, is over the top. Nobody is into book burning and denial of sp= ectrum to impede progress but we only have 3kc/s to play with here in the UK= . I consider myself a =E2=80=9Cgrunt=E2=80=9D operator not a highflying=20= =E2=80=9CEinstein=E2=80=9D radio spectrum quantum mechanic, but I would hope= we are trying to do more with less and I don=E2=80=99t think Olivia is the=20= answer. Whatever modes are proposed and developed, I would expect one of the= cardinal points in their specification, along with very narrow BW, to be co= mpatibility with adjacent modes like CW and the effect on adjacent stations=20= not running that particular mode.=20 In the mean time I am hoping to improve my manual CW skills assuming there a= re any stations still interested in that form of error correcting narrow ban= d data transfer and are still prepared to QSO with me.=20 Now retreating into my cave with my knuckles dragging along the ground.=20 Vy 73 petefmt=20 --- On Mon, 5/1/09, Alberto di Bene wrote: From: Alberto di Bene Subject: LF: Re: Silent majority To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Monday, 5 January, 2009, 12:05 AM Steve McDonald wrote: >> There is virtually nothing new to discover or invent that has not already >> taken place on MF. >=20 > There you go guys. You may as well stop your 600m experiments right now as > Mal has proclaimed that there is "nothing new to discover". Wouldn't it be > wonderful if we could all see the future as clearly as he apparently does. > What an amazing gift. >=20 > VE7SL / Steve =20 This reminds me what Max Planck did write at the beginning of past century. At the turn of the 20th century scientists were absolutely certain that ther= e was nothing more to be discovered in theoretical physics. Max Planck, recalling the mood of optimism and conviction at that time, wrot= e: =20 =E2=80=9CWhen I began my physical studies [in Munich in 1874] and sought adv= ice from my venerable teacher Phillipp von Jolly... he portrayed to me physics as a highly developed almost fully matured science.... Possibly in one or another nook there would perhaps be a dust particle or a small bubble to be examined and classified, but the system as a whole stood there fairly secured, and theoretical physics approached visibly that degree of perfection which, for example, geometry has had already for centuries=E2=80=9D. =20 The history of physics during the 20th century did show how dumb was that point of view... =20 73 Alberto I2PHD =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C9A294.6FA31CB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello Chris, G= roup,

 

I am receiving= your CQ-Call in Normal CW-Mode !!! on 502.7 kHz loud and clear,

fine audible h= ere in JN59LN.

 

vy 73 de Gerha= rd=C2=A0 //=C2=A0 DK6NI

 

=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

 =

Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von Beckmann, Gerhard
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 8. Janu= ar 2009 22:43
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Cc: 'Chris Osborn'
Betreff: LF: 500 kHz - Silent majority

 

Hallo Chris,<= o:p>

 

just now I read your sad message about r= educing your CW-activities on 500 kc.

Because this band= is unfortunately still not released for German radio amateurs, I am often listening for stations in= CW- and QRSS - Mode, and I am always happy to hear someone on this very interest= ing frequency.

Also it should be taken into consideration, that not=20= all OM=E2=80=99s are familiar with the n= ew Digital Modes on this experimental band.

So I would be very happy if there would operate some=20= OM=E2=80=99s still in the =E2=80=9Ctradi= tional modes=E2=80=9D.

Last but not least only these modes are allowing cros= sband.QSO=E2=80=99s which are making our hobby somewhat more interesting.

 

vy 73 de Gerhard  /  DK6NI

 

 

 

 

 =

Von:= owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g] Im Auftrag von Chris Osborn
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 8. Janu= ar 2009 10:02
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Betreff: LF: 500 kHz - Silent majority

 

I deduce that my (fairly) frequent transmissions on MF m= ay be causing

some annoyance and inconvenience to local stations.=

 

Consequently I shall be QRT on 500 kHz for the remainder= of this month.

This will give local stations an opportunity to use = ;a quiet band without

G3XIZ QRM.

 

I must report that sadly Adrian G4GDR has dismantled his= MF equipment

and returned his N.O.V. to OfCom.

He was an active and keen MF operator and constructor bu= t has lost interest due

to lack of activity.

I for one will miss him.

 

73 Chris G3XIZ

 


 

 

From: Dave G3WCB <ganymede444@btopenworld.com>
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Sent: Monday, 5 January, 2009 22:22:55
Subject: RE: LF: Re: Silent majority

=EF=BB=BF

Dear LF, =

 

Geri DK8KW and Markus d= id some interesting slow-voice experiments on 137 kHz a few years back.

 

Definitely not a DX-mod= e, and a bit of a bandwidth-gobbler too ;-)

 

Follow the link below:-=

 

 

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM

 =

-----Original Mess= age-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep..org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of M0FMT
Sent: 05 January 2009 02:37 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= .org
Subject: Re: LF: Re: Silent majority

Hi LF

Since by=20= general consent the 600m band is now wide open for experimentation of whatever computer aided mode that can be down loaded for free off the Internet. Might I suggest th= e use of SSTV. They say a picture is worth a 1000 words. I have thousands of= holiday snaps I would like to share with the world by way of a 24/7 beaconing experiment.  The result may be a bit more interesting than the shoppi= ng lists of stations worked, equipment lists and rig specifications that get churned out ad nauseam over th= e weekends.

I am not=20= sure what my afore mentioned local Amateur Radio 600m op friends would feel being only a few miles away from my QTH.

No, the a= bove suggestion is ridiculous. It does however, Einstein, Planck et al withstanding, beg t= he question; what is a suitable maximum bandwidth for the development of new modes on our British 3Kc/s 600m band?  I will start the ball rolling=20= by saying a BW no more than 50c/s. G3PLX managed with less than 32c/s BW. Sin= ce there is a QSB / QRN issue on this band then hand shaking could be introdu= ced to ensure error free data transfer a bit like X25 slow but sure yet confin= ed in a very narrow bandwidth say 50c/s max.  We need to think outside t= he box and not try to shoe horn unsuitable modes onto 600m. To evoke names li= ke Planck and co with all due respect to Alberto (who I admire immensely for=20= his great innovations with DSP, SDR, FFT processing software) I think,  i= s over the top. Nobody is into book burning and denial of spectrum to impede progress but we only have 3kc/s to play with here in the UK.  I consi= der myself a =E2=80=9Cgrunt=E2=80=9D operator not a highflying =E2=80=9CEinste= in=E2=80=9D radio spectrum quantum mechanic, but I would hope we are trying to do more with less and I don= =E2=80=99t think Olivia is the answer. Whatever modes are proposed and developed, I would expect one of the cardinal points in their specification, along with very narrow BW, to be compatibility with adjacent modes like CW and the effect on adjacent stations not running that particular mode.

In the me= an time I am hoping to improve my manual CW skills assuming there are any stations still interest= ed in that form of error correcting narrow band data transfer and are still prepared to QSO with me.

Now retre= ating into my cave with my knuckles dragging along the ground.

Vy 73 pet= efmt



--- On Mon, 5/1/09, Alberto di Bene <dibene@usa.net> wrote:

From: Alberto di Bene <dibene@usa.net>
Subject: LF: Re: Silent majority
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Monday, 5 January, 2009, 12:05 AM

=
Steve McDonald wrote:
>> There is virtu=
ally nothing new to discover or invent that has not=

already
>> taken place on MF.
> 
> There=
 you go guys. You may as well stop your 600m experiments right now as
> Mal has proclaimed that there is "nothing=
 new to discover".
Wouldn't it be
> wonderful if we could all see the future as cl=
early as he apparently does.
> What an ama=
zing gift.
> 
> VE7SL / Steve
 
This reminds me what Max Planck did write at the beginning of=
 past century.
At the turn of the 20th centur=
y scientists were absolutely certain that there
was nothing more to be discovered in theoretical physics.
Max Planck, recalling the mood of optimism and conviction at=
 that time, wrote:
 
=E2=80=9CWhen I began my physical studies [in Munich in 1874] an=
d sought advice from
my venerable teacher Phi=
llipp von Jolly... he portrayed to me physics as a<=
/pre>
highly developed almost fully matured science.... Possibly in one or a=
nother
nook there would perhaps be a dust par=
ticle or a small bubble to be examined
and cl=
assified, but the system as a whole stood there fairly secured, and
theoretical physics approached visibly that degree of=
 perfection which,
for example, geometry has=20=
had already for centuries=E2=80=9D.
&nbs=
p;
The history of physics during the 20th century=20=
did show how dumb was that
point of view...<=
o:p>
 
73 =
; Alberto  I2PHD
 
 
 
 

 

 

------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C9A294.6FA31CB0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de12.mx.aol.com (rly-de12.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.148]) by air-de04.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDE041-51a49c164e029a; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 17:17:57 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de12.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE121-51a49c164e029a; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 17:17:21 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lk38X-0003dQ-4F for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:17:17 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lk38W-0003dH-Lp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:17:16 +0000 Received: from [193.252.22.192] (helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lk38U-0001Sy-2W for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:17:16 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3624.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 5D2B57000084 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 22:16:58 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.14.71]) by mwinf3624.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 17D117000081 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 22:16:58 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20090318211658976.17D117000081@mwinf3624.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: References: <009001c9a588$7eb02c60$6401a8c0@asus> <005101c9a679$df148f50$6401a8c0@asus> <916F3329CAA846A19B450540FCC7E0AB@AGB> In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:16:57 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8064.206 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8064.206 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software QQQ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_014B_01C9A80E.DE9D0250" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_014B_01C9A80E.DE9D0250 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ok Andy , thanks for that .. G ..=20 From: Andy Talbot=20 Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:13 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software QQQ No it uses the average power over the 5 second period. You could always st= art it 1s early and stop 1s later Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/3/18 Graham Andy, Q .. If the tx is keyed by vox/breakin will the slight clipping of th= e leading edge of the beacon cause time problems ?? reason being .. if use force 'tx' will miss the beacon rx windows ?? Tnx- G ..=20 From: Andy Talbot=20 Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 4:27 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software That should have read http://www.g4jnt.com/PCBCN.zip Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/3/17 Andy Talbot Try http://www.g4jnt.com/beacons.htm and go to PCBCN at the bottom or directly =20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.16/2006 - Release Date: 03/17/09= 07:23:00 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.18/2009 - Release Date: 03/18/09 0= 7:17:00 ------=_NextPart_000_014B_01C9A80E.DE9D0250 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ok Andy , thanks for that ...
 
G ..

Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:13 PM
Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software QQQ

No it uses the average power over the 5 second period.   You=20 could always start it 1s early and stop 1s later
Andy=20  G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com

<= BR>
2009/3/18 Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
Andy,
 
Q .. If the  tx is keyed by=20 vox/breakin    will the slight  clipping of the =20 leading edge of the  beacon  cause time problems ??
reason being  .. if use force 'tx' w= ill miss=20 the  beacon rx windows ??
 
Tnx- G ..

Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 4:27 PM
Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software

That should have read http://www.g4jnt.com/PCBCN.zip

Andy  G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com


2009/3/17 Andy Talbot <andy.g4jnt@goo= glemail.com>
Try http://www.g4jnt.com/beacons.htm    and=20 go to  PCBCN at the bottom
 or directly 


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------=_NextPart_000_014B_01C9A80E.DE9D0250-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md02.mx.aol.com (rly-md02.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.140]) by air-md05.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD054-8f049c9221210a; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 14:10:58 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md02.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD028-8f049c9221210a; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 14:10:28 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LmB49-00026F-5k for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 18:09:33 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LmB48-000266-MK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 18:09:32 +0000 Received: from vms173001pub.verizon.net ([206.46.173.1]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LmB45-00046F-QE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 18:09:32 +0000 Received: from DR2 ([71.184.212.10]) by vms173001.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KH000B50VRE449X@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 13:09:15 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <49EF81B19E57446696DEAFC2EF3BCE84@DR2> From: "dave.riley3" To: Cc: "600MRG" References: Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 14:09:13 -0400 MIME-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Plug and Play is here to stay Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00A2_01C9AC8A.1C424820" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.4 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_00A2_01C9AC8A.1C424820 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable QRZ 600 Meters ( 137 kc ) ( lowfer ) ( all mode ) Home brew doesn't get any easier and all the heavy lifting has been done for= us... Here is that 50khz. to HF transverter that started out as a thought which ha= s since been updated... First a trip to the junk box and here is what happened... www.radiocom.net/600M/TxVerter2.jpg If you heard me since early 2008 then t= his is the chain I was using... It's a bit crude but it ran on the bench here and never failed in a year... Now it was time to clean things up a bit and here is what it looks like now.= .. www.radiocom.net/600M/TxVerter3.jpg There is still plenty of room inside that would have allowed construction in= a case less than 1/3rd the size... You see the green LED which means that the internal ni-cad is powering the 1= 0mhz. clock oscillator... By shutting this off the external 10mhz. LO then supplies GPS 10mhz. clock i= nput to the mixers... The internal oscillator was installed in case portable ops became possible a= nd a total drain of 35ma. assures many hours of operation, else NO power is=20= required... The only modification I made to the IC-706 was to cut the B+ to the final wh= ich then made for almost 10 milliwatts output while in transmit... Just lucky on that one I guess but it should work well from any 'transverter= ' port in a modern HF rig... I use 10 mhz. IF just to keep the numbers easy and that is what I have for a= ccurate LO availability...=20 The mixers and filters were replaced from the prototype of the first example= with Mini-Circuits ADE-6 double balanced mixers which work very well from .= 05 to 250 mhz... The Low Pass filters are Mini-Circuits LPF-BOR6 for the 600M and below versi= on... The power splitters from the IC706 RT port and the 10mhz. LO are Mini-Circui= ts ZX10-2-12... Who wants to wind coils and solder stuff @ this stage??? 73s from Lazy Dave - AA1A - WD2XSH/17 * a similar transverter worked well @ 10ghz. and also @ laser, so I guess th= e IC-706 is good from virtually DC to light... =20 ------=_NextPart_000_00A2_01C9AC8A.1C424820 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
QRZ 600 Meters ( 137 kc ) ( lowfer )  ( all= mode=20 )
 
 
Home brew doesn't get any easier and all the hea= vy=20 lifting has been done for us...
 
Here is that 50khz. to HF transverter that start= ed out=20 as a thought which has since been updated...
First a trip to the junk box and here is what=20 happened...
 
www.radiocom.net/600M/TxVerter2.jpg =20 If you heard me since early 2008 then this is the chain I was=20 using...
 
It's a bit crude but it ran on the bench here an= d=20 never failed in a year...
 
Now it was time to clean things up a bit&nb= sp;and=20 here is what it looks like now...
 
 
There is still plenty of room inside that w= ould=20 have allowed construction in a case less than 1/3rd the=20 size...
 
You see the green LED which means that the inter= nal=20 ni-cad is powering the 10mhz. clock oscillator...
By shutting this off the external 10mhz. LO= then=20 supplies GPS 10mhz. clock input to the mixers...
The internal oscillator was installed in=20 case portable ops became possible and a total drain of 35ma. assur= es=20 many hours of operation, else NO power is required...
 
The only modification I made to the IC-706 was t= o cut=20 the B+ to the final which then made for almost 10 milliwatts output whi= le=20 in transmit...
Just lucky on that one I guess but it shoul= d work=20 well from any 'transverter' port in a modern HF rig...
I use 10 mhz. IF just to keep the numbers easy a= nd=20 that is what I have for accurate LO availability... 
 
The mixers and filters were replaced from the=20 prototype of the first example with Mini-Circuits ADE-6 double balanced mixe= rs=20 which work very well from .05 to 250 mhz...
The Low Pass filters are Mini-Circuits LPF-BOR6=20= for=20 the 600M and below version...
The power splitters from the IC706 RT port = and=20 the 10mhz. LO are Mini-Circuits ZX10-2-12...
 
Who wants to wind coils and solder stuff @ this=20 stage???
 
73s from Lazy Dave - AA1A -=20 WD2XSH/17
 
 
* a similar transverter worked well @ 10ghz. and= also=20 @ laser, so I guess the IC-706 is good from virtually DC to=20 light...
 
 
 
  
 
 
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No it uses the average power over the 5 second period.=A0=A0 You could=20= always start it 1s early and stop 1s later
Andy =A0G4JNTwww.g4jnt.com


2009/3/18 Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
Andy,
=A0
Q .. If the=A0 tx is keyed by vox/break= in=A0=A0=A0 will the slight=A0 clipping of the=A0 leading edge of the=A0 bea= con=A0 cause time problems ??
reason being=A0 .. if use force 'tx= ' will miss the=A0 beacon rx windows ??
=A0
Tnx- G ..


Andy =A0G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com


2009/3/17 Andy Talbot <andy.g4jnt@googlem= ail.com>
Try http= ://www.g4jnt.com/beacons.htm=A0=A0=A0=A0and go to =A0PCBCN at the bottom=
=A0or directly=A0


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--001636c5baaf681f2004656a528d-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf09.mx.aol.com (rly-mf09.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.179]) by air-mf04.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMF041-97e49aa8e6a2fb; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 08:32:48 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf09.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF094-97e49aa8e6a2fb; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 08:32:30 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ldlll-00039L-4y for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 13:31:49 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ldllk-00039C-N3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 13:31:48 +0000 Received: from imr-m08.mx.aol.com ([64.12.138.210]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ldllj-0007Av-JV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 13:31:48 +0000 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imr-m08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id l.bc7.3a2eb240 (34967) for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 08:31:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from Black (g229168189.adsl.alicedsl.de [92.229.168.189]) by cia-da07.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILCIADA074-889749aa8e35ad; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 08:31:34 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Markus Vester" To: Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 14:31:33 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16480 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16669 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: EW6GB Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01C99A7A.6B3EDFA0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C99A7A.6B3EDFA0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0007_01C99A7A.6B3F54D0" ------=_NextPart_001_0007_01C99A7A.6B3F54D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable along with DK4U tuning up and DD7PC calling, the purple trace above looks li= ke EW6GB.=20 73 de Markus, DF6NM ------=_NextPart_001_0007_01C99A7A.6B3F54D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
along with DK4U tuning up and DD7PC=20 calling, the purple trace above looks like EW6GB.
 
73 de Markus, DF6NM
 
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h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Dz+6cW6L9KX/+/FKxhu82FG7nrDX3d/LOhV0ZvtwZjPdgabzdt0EJPQtN2Nhm1wOmh BQLr2lNamsJG+AORwXk5EDm1MG4VgWkzQh/QA4xr/u1CThJ6E2aOd2dLGaDOh1TUxW6t /dJMqzPSCba72yevc8yDAlrxqf+D4Me5RCqf0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.59.76 with SMTP id k12mr1349339bkh.136.1237150807362; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 14:00:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <00e001c9a5a7$f07216a0$6401a8c0@asus> References: <009001c9a588$7eb02c60$6401a8c0@asus> <00e001c9a5a7$f07216a0$6401a8c0@asus> Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 21:00:07 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016368e269d680efd04652e9ec0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 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The on-off sessions should be obvious from Gary's plot. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com * >* > *http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html* > > * * > --0016368e269d680efd04652e9ec0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
For various reason I'm going to have to switch the beacon off durin= g some day-time periods, but it should always be on from evening through to=20= the following morning.=A0=A0 The on-off=A0sessions should be=A0obvious from=20= Gary's plot.

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--0016368e269d680efd04652e9ec0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma01.mx.aol.com (rly-ma01.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.44]) by air-ma07.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMA071-88749b366b0396; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 01:33:29 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma01.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA011-88749b366b0396; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 01:33:21 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LgCYp-0000HT-3x for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 06:32:31 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LgCYo-0000HK-LV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 06:32:30 +0000 Received: from bay0-omc3-s39.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.239]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LgCYm-0003MQ-IN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 06:32:30 +0000 Received: from BAY105-W52 ([65.54.224.152]) by bay0-omc3-s39.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sat, 7 Mar 2009 22:32:21 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [212.4.140.33] From: Lubos OK2BVG To: Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 07:32:21 +0100 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Mar 2009 06:32:21.0823 (UTC) FILETIME=[A2EFDCF0:01C99FB7] X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_9572e0cb-3381-4dc3-97f4-12ac1a517261_" Subject: LF: XGJ X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_9572e0cb-3381-4dc3-97f4-12ac1a517261_ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_2d83a425-3bd5-4d12-9612-fa339345e4ae_" --_2d83a425-3bd5-4d12-9612-fa339345e4ae_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Warren, LF! I saw callsign "XGJ" two times. That=B4s fine, XGJ is back on LF!Thanks! 73 =20 Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS _________________________________________________________________ St=E1hn=ECte si zcela nov=FD Messenger 2009! http://download.live.com/messenger=3D --_2d83a425-3bd5-4d12-9612-fa339345e4ae_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Warren, LF!
I saw callsign "XGJ" two times. That=B4s fine, XGJ is b= ack on LF!Thanks!

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Many thanx Henny for this first contact with you.
I hope to see and call you again.
 
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(post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df07.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF074-56349aeef2d28f; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 16:14:23 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LeyPZ-0001TT-6M for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 21:13:53 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LeyPY-0001TK-Oh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 21:13:52 +0000 Received: from imo-d06.mx.aol.com ([205.188.157.38]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LeyPX-0000Rn-Sz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 21:13:52 +0000 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-d06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id l.bdb.3e30feeb (34967) for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 16:13:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from Black (g229115213.adsl.alicedsl.de [92.229.115.213]) by cia-da07.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILCIADA074-889749aeeeec1ba; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 16:13:17 -0500 Message-ID: <04DB809048FC434FBA0D4DB387E89863@Black> From: "Markus Vester" To: References: <8FA0F64CAE294E9681BFE4D22D1EB2D4@ns94d01ae4d850> In-Reply-To: <8FA0F64CAE294E9681BFE4D22D1EB2D4@ns94d01ae4d850> Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 22:13:14 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16480 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16669 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: capture 67hz.jpg Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000C_01C99D16.696ECC00" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C99D16.696ECC00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Henny, my QTH is about 400 m from a railway line, and I regularly saw their 16.667=20= Hz power frequency and several ELF harmonics. The E-fields are relatively st= rong as the lines normally do not carry a grounded top wire for lightning pr= otection. The "modulation" could be caused by some switching activity. Another origin might be a controlled rectifier on the 50 Hz mains, which cou= ld be triggered at a subharmonic frequency. Best regards, Markus, DF6NM ----- Original Message -----=20 From: henny van elst=20 To: blacksheep=20 Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 7:43 PM Subject: LF: capture 67hz.jpg Hi,Lf capture unid signal 67hz,but who ? henny pa3cpm best 73s ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C99D16.696ECC00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear Henny,
 
my QTH is about 400 m from a railway l= ine,=20 and I regularly saw their 16.667 Hz power frequency and several EL= F=20 harmonics. The E-fields are relatively strong as the lines normally do not c= arry=20 a grounded top wire for lightni= ng=20 protection. The "modulation" could be caused by some switching=20 activity.
 
Another origin might be a=20 controlled rectifier on the 50 Hz mains, which could be triggered=20 at a subharmonic frequency.
 
Best regards,
Markus, DF6NM
 
----- Original Message -----
henny van elst=20=
To: blacksheep
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 7:4= 3=20 PM
Subject: LF: capture 67hz.jpg

Hi,Lf
capture unid signal 67hz,but who ?=
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= ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C99D16.696ECC00-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc02.mx.aol.com (rly-dc02.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.31]) by air-dc05.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDC054-b0b49bee0333d5; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 19:26:57 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc02.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC027-b0b49bee0333d5; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 19:26:45 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LjMCE-0007Wh-Hq for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 23:26:14 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LjMCD-0007WY-IS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 23:26:13 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.159]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LjMCA-0002ez-Sb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 23:26:13 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3401.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 807901C00084 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 00:25:58 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.61.111]) by mwinf3401.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 929FE1C00082 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 00:25:57 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20090316232557600.929FE1C00082@mwinf3401.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <916F3329CAA846A19B450540FCC7E0AB@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <009001c9a588$7eb02c60$6401a8c0@asus> <00e001c9a5a7$f07216a0$6401a8c0@asus> <826BA6086575402A8C87062492069F5A@AGB> <004501c9a623$a4bf81d0$6401a8c0@asus> <2ED02F4327204E3C903828F9E18AA72B@AGB> <001e01c9a665$ebeac870$6401a8c0@asus> <00be01c9a66e$c8bfdbc0$0900a8c0@AM> <004a01c9a677$2a8b48a0$6401a8c0@asus> <005101c9a679$df148f50$6401a8c0@asus> In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 23:25:56 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8064.206 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8064.206 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_014F_01C9A68E.8EDFFAA0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNSAFE,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_014F_01C9A68E.8EDFFAA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Andy, Is there any way the slots could be filled using a pc ... ? if a small exe=20= could be run to make a cw pulse then that would be no problem ? G ..=20 From: Andy Talbot=20 Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 9:36 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software See you just have - got quite a shock until I realised the noise had plummet= ed as well. Any takers for the 5 and 6 minute slots? Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/3/16 Gary - G4WGT Andy, OK, I will insert an attenuator at the antenna socket (that=92s an easy mo= ve) & watch how it performs. It is switched at 10dB steps so I will start at= 10db of course. Cheers, Gary. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@black= sheep.org] On Behalf Of Andy Talbot Sent: 16 March 2009 20:45=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software Doesn't matter which - just total system gain. That S/W works best if the= noise threshold rides at about 10dB above the baseline, then it allows for= up to 70 - 80dB of signal peaks. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/3/16 Gary - G4WGT Alan, When you wrote :- my only comment is that you may have too much gain in the system. Are you meaning sound card or receiver gain? Gary. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Alan Melia Sent: 16 March 2009 19:38 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software Hi Gary my only comment is that you may have too much gain in the system.=20= It is sometimes better to have the noise further down nearer the axis. I am afraid there is a major problem with this kind of beacon, when the fading period is shorter than the sampling interval, so you dont really kn= ow what the path is doing. The only reliable points are the peaks, the trough= s dont really mean anything without some very sophisticated analysis and probably two spaced receivers. However it does give a snapshot of the band without taking up too much bandwidth (this was what was required for 5MHz too). Despite all the data collected very little analysis has actually be done on the 5MHz data collected by this program. The one succesfull bit of work was that published in Radcom by Marcis Walden G0IJZ. I used it for so= me time whilst Andy was testing the Poldhu beacon on 160m and also during the 1st two months that ran. I was certainly surprised by the daytime path on 160m from here. I have seen the data collected in Canada via Joe Craig VO1= NA and it is difficult to see how to use it. Still if you dont collect the data you will never know!! Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 6:35 PM Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software > Hi Graham, LF, > > > > The original HTML Code for the 2 minute refresh is still inserted into t= he > page format, so upload is 30 minute intervals with Syncback & 2 minute > refresh. I have left the refresh in case I revert back to the original > grabber page. I will look at changing it if I continue to use the beacon > chart upload. > > > > I would like to have feedback from the LF group regarding the page, if y= ou > check it out periodically, is it useful to you, what are you looking for= . > > > > You can view the chart on my web site at :- > > > > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html > > > > 73 > > > > Gary - G4WGT. > > > > > > _____ > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham > Sent: 16 March 2009 17:20 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > Hi Gary, > > > > The page seemed to refresh quite often ... are there two settings ? > > > > G .. > > > > From: Gary - G4WGT > > Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:40 AM > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > Hi Graham, LF, > > > > You wrote :- > > >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute > intervals. <<< that could be backed off to 15 mins as the beacon only > sends every 15 ?? > > > > I mentioned in my previous mail to ignore the text on the page as it was > originally for grabber 1 for when I upgrade the web site (to a new desig= n & > better navigation etc), also mentioned is that upload is every 30 minute= s. > > > > If the uploaded chart proves useful or interesting to operators & viewer= s > then I will change the text & make it a permanent feature for the > foreseeable future. > > > > BTW :- > > > > For those of you who are not familiar with the chart - > > > > The RED trace is Andy's (G4JNT) beacon signal & the BLACK trace is the noise > level at my QTH. > > > > The Blue & GREEN are not in use & should be ignored on this chart as the= y > are for the other beacons used when monitoring on the 5MHz allocation. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Gary - G4WGT > > > > > > _____ > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham > Sent: 15 March 2009 22:17 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > Gary.. > > > > That looks good ... 0500 looks best time for a qso .. see you then Smil= e > emoticon > > > > >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute > intervals. <<< that could be backed off to 15 mins as the beacon only > sends every 15 ?? > > > > the 15 db over the noise in day time is the same at this qth .. looks like > the big dips round 1900 where just when we where testing .. typical hi= hi > > > > tnx- G .. > > > > From: Gary - G4WGT > > Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 7:55 PM > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > Subject: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > LF, > > > > I have now got the software, Syncback running correctly (I think). > > > > The purpose of this is to upload the chart from Andy's beacon as receive= d > here to my web site periodically, ie. every 30 minutes. > > > > I now have a receiver running 24/7 monitoring Andy,s beacon on 503.7KHz. > > > > You can view the chart on my web site at :- > > > > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html > > > > For the moment ignore the text on the page as it is originally designed=20= to > use with the 500KHz grabber when I renew my web site design. If it is a > useful upload I will make it a permanent feature but may have to extend the > frequency coverage of grabber 1 so not to overload the PC with operation= s > which will cause the PC to struggle. > > > > Let me have your comments please. > > > > 73 > > > > Gary - G4WGT. > > > > _____ > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT > Sent: 15 March 2009 16:10 > To: LF -RSGB LF Group > Subject: LF: Syncback software > > > > Hi LF, > > > > If anyone is using Syncback software & can help, please. > > > > I am tying to upload a file to my website who's filename does not change= , > only the file size changes. I tried to do it with Argo-upload but failed so > I downloaded Syncback & still failing. > > > > Syncback gives me the following message :- > > > > ********************************** > > Can connect, but unable to change to destination directory: > > /chart01.bmp:not a directory > > ********************************** > > The Syncback help does not give me the answer. > > > > Any help will be appreciated > > > > Or > > > > Will Argo-Upload do it? > > > > Or > > > > Is there something else to do it? > > > > Thanks in anticipation, > > > > 73, > > > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. > > > > _____ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.13/2001 - Release Date: 03/14/= 09 > 06:54:00 > > _____ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.15/2003 - Release Date: 03/15/= 09 > 14:07:00 > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.15/2004 - Release Date: 03/16/09 0= 7:04:00 ------=_NextPart_000_014F_01C9A68E.8EDFFAA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Andy,
 
Is there any way the  slots could be f= illed=20 using a pc ... ? if a small exe could be run to  make a cw  pulse=20= then=20 that would be no problem ?
 
G ..

Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 9:36 PM
Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software

See you just have - got quite a shock until I realised the noise had=20 plummeted as well.
Any takers for the 5 and 6 minute slots?

Andy  G4JNT
= www.g4jnt.com


2009/3/16 Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>

Andy,

<= /B> 

OK,=20 I will insert an attenuator at the antenna socket (that=92s an easy move)=20= &=20 watch how it performs. It is switched at 10dB steps so I will start at 10d= b of=20 course.

<= /B> 

Cheers,<= /FONT>

<= /B> 

Gary.

<= /B> 

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:= owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Andy Talbot
Sent: 16 March 2009 20:45=20


To: rsgb_l= f_group@blacksheep.org
Subje= ct: Re: LF: RE: Syncback=20 software

 

Doesn't=20 matter which - just total system gain.  That S/W works best if the no= ise=20 threshold rides at about 10dB above the baseline,  then it allows for= up=20 to 70 - 80dB of signal peaks.

<= SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">
Andy  G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com

2009/3/16=20 Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>

Alan,

When you wrote :-

<= SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">my only comment is that you may have too=20= much gain in=20 the system.

Are you=20 meaning sound card or receiver gain?

Gary.



-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@black= sheep.org

[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Alan=20 Melia
Sent: 16 March 2009 19:38

<= SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject:=20= Re: LF: RE:=20 Syncback software

Hi Gary my only comment is that you may have too=20= much=20 gain in the system. It
is sometimes better to have the noise further do= wn=20 nearer the axis.

I am afraid there is a major problem with this kin= d of=20 beacon, when the
fading period is shorter than the sampling interval, s= o=20 you dont really know
what the path is doing. The only reliable points a= re=20 the peaks, the troughs
dont really mean anything without some very=20 sophisticated analysis and
probably two spaced receivers. However it do= es=20 give a snapshot of the band
without taking up too much bandwidth (this=20= was=20 what was required for 5MHz
too). Despite all the data collected very li= ttle=20 analysis has actually be
done on the 5MHz data collected by this progra= m.=20 The one succesfull bit of
work was that published in Radcom by Marcis=20 Walden G0IJZ. I used it for some
time whilst Andy was testing the Poldh= u=20 beacon on 160m and also during the
1st two months that ran. I was certa= inly=20 surprised by the daytime path on
160m from here. I have seen the data=20 collected in Canada via Joe Craig VO1NA
and it is difficult to see how=20= to=20 use it.

Still if you dont collect the data you will never=20 know!!

Alan G3NYK




----- Original Message=20 -----
From: "Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blackshe= ep.org>
Sent: Monday, March 16,=20 2009 6:35 PM
Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software


> Hi=20 Graham, LF,
>
>
>
> The original HTML Code for the= 2=20 minute refresh is still inserted into the
> page format, so upload i= s 30=20 minute intervals with Syncback & 2 minute
> refresh. I have left= the=20 refresh in case I revert back to the original
> grabber page. I will= =20 look at changing it if I continue to use the beacon
> chart=20 upload.
>
>
>
> I would like to have feedback from= the=20 LF group regarding the page, if you
> check it out periodically, is=20= it=20 useful to you, what are you looking for.
>
>
>
> Y= ou=20 can view the chart on my web site at :-
>
>
>
> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html
>
&= gt;
>
>=20 73
>
>
>
> Gary -=20 G4WGT.
>
>
>
>
>
>  =20 _____
>
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
&g= t; [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of=20 Graham
> Sent: 16 March 2009 17:20
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org
> Subject: Re: LF: RE:=20 Syncback software
>
>
>
> Hi=20 Gary,
>
>
>
> The page seemed to  refresh qui= te=20 often ... are there two settings ?
>
>
>
> G=20 ..
>
>
>
> From: Gary - G4WGT <mailto:g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
>
> Sent: Monday, March=20 16, 2009 10:40 AM
>
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>=
> Subject: RE:=20 LF: RE: Syncback software
>
>
>
> Hi Graham,=20 LF,
>
>
>
> You wrote :-
>
>=20 >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2=20 minute
> intervals. <<< that could be backed off to  1= 5=20 mins as the beacon only
> sends every 15=20 ??
>
>
>
> I mentioned in my previous mail to igno= re=20 the text on the page as it was
> originally for grabber 1 for when I= =20 upgrade the web site (to a new design
&
> better navigation e= tc),=20 also mentioned is that upload is every 30=20 minutes.
>
>
>
> If the uploaded chart proves usef= ul=20 or interesting to operators & viewers
> then I will change the t= ext=20 & make it a permanent feature for the
> foreseeable=20 future.
>
>
>
> BTW :-
>
>
>
= >=20 For those of you  who are not familiar with the chart=20 -
>
>
>
> The RED trace is Andy's (G4JNT) beacon=20 signal & the BLACK trace is the
noise
> level at my=20 QTH.
>
>
>
> The Blue & GREEN are not in use &= amp;=20 should be ignored on this chart as they
> are for the other beacons=20= used=20 when monitoring on the 5MHz allocation.
>
>
>
>=20 Cheers,
>
>
>
> Gary -=20 G4WGT
>
>
>
>
>
>  =20 _____
>
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
&g= t; [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of=20 Graham
> Sent: 15 March 2009 22:17
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org
> Subject: Re: LF: RE:=20 Syncback software
>
>
>
>=20 Gary..
>
>
>
> That looks good  ... 0500 look= s=20 best time for a qso .. see you then Smile
>=20 emoticon
>
>
>
> >>>Upload is set at 5 mi= nute=20 intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute
> intervals. <<< tha= t=20 could be backed off to  15 mins as the beacon only
> sends ever= y 15=20 ??
>
>
>
> the  15 db over the noise in day t= ime=20 is the  same at this qth .. looks
like
> the big dips round=20= 1900=20  where just when we where testing ..  typical=20 hihi
>
>
>
> tnx- G ...
>
>
>>=20 From: Gary - G4WGT <mailto:g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
>
> Sent: Sunday, Mar= ch=20 15, 2009 7:55 PM
>
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
><= BR>> Subject: LF:=20 RE: Syncback software
>
>
>
>=20 LF,
>
>
>
> I have now got the software, Syncback=20 running correctly (I think).
>
>
>
> The purpose o= f=20 this is to upload the chart from Andy's beacon as received
> here to= my=20 web site periodically, ie. every 30 minutes.
>
>
>
&g= t; I=20 now have a receiver running 24/7 monitoring Andy,s beacon on=20 503.7KHz.
>
>
>
> You can view the chart on my web= =20 site at :-
>
>
>
> http://myweb.tiscali.= co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html
>
>
>
>=20 For the moment ignore the text on the page as it is originally designed=20 to
> use with the 500KHz grabber when I renew my web site design. If= it=20 is a
> useful upload I will make it a permanent feature but may have= to=20 extend
the
> frequency coverage of grabber 1 so not to overload t= he=20 PC with operations
> which will cause the PC to=20 struggle.
>
>
>
> Let me have your comments=20 please.
>
>
>
> 73
>
>
>
>= =20 Gary - G4WGT.
>
>
>
>   _____
>
>= =20 From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf= _group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary -=20 G4WGT
> Sent: 15 March 2009 16:10
> To: LF -RSGB LF Group
&= gt;=20 Subject: LF: Syncback software
>
>
>
> Hi=20 LF,
>
>
>
> If anyone is using Syncback software &= amp;=20 can help, please.
>
>
>
> I am tying to upload a f= ile=20 to my website who's filename does not change,
> only the file size=20 changes. I tried to do it with Argo-upload but failed
so
> I=20 downloaded Syncback & still failing.
>
>
>
>=20 Syncback gives me the following message :-
>
>
>
>= =20 **********************************
>
> Can connect, but unable= to=20 change to destination directory:
>
> /chart01.bmp:not a=20 directory
>
> **********************************
>
&g= t;=20 The Syncback help does not give me the answer.
>
>
>
= >=20 Any help will be appreciated
>
>
>
>=20 Or
>
>
>
> Will Argo-Upload do=20 it?
>
>
>
> Or
>
>
>
> Is=20 there something else to do it?
>
>
>
> Thanks in=20 anticipation,
>
>
>
>=20 73,
>
>
>
> Gary - G4WGT -=20 IO83QP.
>
>
>
>   _____
>
>
&g= t;=20 No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> Version:= =20 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.13/2001 - Release Date: 03/14/09
>=20 06:54:00
>
>   _____
>
>
> No virus fou= nd=20 in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> Version:=20 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.15/2003 - Release Date: 03/15/09
>=20 14:07:00
>
>


 



No virus found in this incoming message.
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Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.15/2004 - Release=20 Date: 03/16/09 07:04:00
------=_NextPart_000_014F_01C9A68E.8EDFFAA0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db03.mx.aol.com (rly-db03.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.78]) by air-db08.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDB081-ab349be156a5c; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 05:01:50 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db03.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB031-ab349be156a5c; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 05:01:32 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lj8gp-00034U-DM for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 09:00:55 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lj8gp-00034L-1C for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 09:00:55 +0000 Received: from psmtp13.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.25]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lj8gm-0001zQ-GO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 09:00:54 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp13.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KGL0028RD1388@psmtp13.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 10:00:40 +0100 (MET) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 10:00:39 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <90D794D70D704743A722D0E698122332@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: DI2BO 15-03.jpg Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_os7ix+KjsdR9r+8crFAbPQ)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_os7ix+KjsdR9r+8crFAbPQ) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_+hj6RCb14j6Ub7ac4tAM2g)" --Boundary_(ID_+hj6RCb14j6Ub7ac4tAM2g) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Hi LF, Capture DI2BO, Henny pa3cpm Best 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: di2bo 15-03.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld. --Boundary_(ID_+hj6RCb14j6Ub7ac4tAM2g) Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
Hi LF,
Capture DI2BO,
Henny pa3cpm
Best 73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
di2bo 15-03.jpg

Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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Hi,Lf
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It was great. 73 Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF DI2AG / DJ2LF Test with WSPR ( beacon-mode ) on MF 505.090MHz March 1. 19:00UTC to March 2. 07:00UTC Results 13 stations reported via WSPR, 6stations reported via reflector or gave addi= tional comments. Total sum: 378 reports ODX: AA1A 6077Km ( mni tnx, Dave ) Mni tnx also to Andy, G4JNT, who went QRT with his WSPR beacon that night. Call QRB Loc Best signal at Poorest signal at Nr.=20= of reports =20 (Km) (SNR) (UTC) (SNR) (UTC) AA1A 6.077 FN42pb -24 02:00 ----------- =20= 2 DJ6LB 11 JN59mm + 8 22:44 +5 22:12 =20= 9 OR7T 481 JO20ix -4 20:02 -6 19:48 =20= 3 G4WGT 1.048 IO83qp -17 20:20 -27 20:10 =20= 7 SQ7MPJ 634 JO91rs -16 20:10 -26 20:20 =20= 22 LA3BEA 1.140 JO29og -8 01:38 -27 06:32 =20= 95 G3XVL 753 JO02nb -3 20:48 -16 20:20 =20= 20 Michael 221 JN49bf +2 18:54 -7 19:00 =20= 10 GM4ISM 1.220 IO85ar -14 23:20 -29 18:28 =20= 85 DD7PC 225 JN49ax -4 18:28 -26 20:20 =20= 6 G0KTN 973 IO81ti +0 00:02 -26 18:02 =20= 54 F4DTL 639 JN18fp -4 22:28 -21 18:02 =20= 17 G4JNT 893 IO90iv -4 20:34 -21 18:22 =20= 48 =20= -------------- =20= Total 378 Mni tnx to All =20 73 Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF 03.02.09 ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C99B4C.A4CEB600 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable DI2AG / DJ2LF

 

Dear All on 600m,

=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 here are some results of the tes= t last night. It was great.

73=A0 Walter=A0 DI2AG / DJ2LF

 

 

 

DI2AG / DJ2LF

 

Test with WSPR ( beac= on-mode ) on MF 505.090MHz

 

March 1. 19:00UTC to=20= March 2. 07:00UTC

 

Results

 

13 stations reported=20= via WSPR, 6stations reported via reflector or gave additional comments.

Total sum: 378 report= s

ODX: AA1A 6077Km ( mn= i tnx, Dave )

Mni tnx also to Andy,= G4JNT, who went QRT with his WSPR beacon that night.

 

 

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=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =A0(Km)=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0(SNR) (UTC)=A0=A0=A0 (SNR) (UTC)

 

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------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C99B4C.A4CEB600-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf10.mx.aol.com (rly-mf10.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.180]) by air-mf09.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMF092-98a49c612d1165; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 06:28:49 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf10.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF108-98a49c612d1165; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 06:28:35 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LlKqg-0001Gr-F6 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 10:24:10 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LlKqg-0001Gi-3O for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 10:24:10 +0000 Received: from imo-d20.mx.aol.com ([205.188.139.136]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LlKqd-0007tp-7L for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 10:24:10 +0000 Received: from F4DTL@aol.com by imo-d20.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id l.c23.5a4519f5 (29678) for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 06:23:59 -0400 (EDT) From: F4DTL@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 06:23:59 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5029 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Score: 1.7 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: LF: PA3CPM F4DTL Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1237717439" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 -------------------------------1237717439 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks my friend for this new contact with you. Have a nice day. F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP RX : Icom IC7400 Ant: Wellbrook LFL 1010 _http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/_ (http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/) -------------------------------1237717439 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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 -------------------------------1237717439-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf09.mx.aol.com (rly-mf09.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.179]) by air-mf04.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMF041-98149bc313e128; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 18:35:52 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf09.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF097-98149bc313e128; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 18:35:45 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LicRT-0002mg-GY for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 22:34:55 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LicRT-0002mX-46 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 22:34:55 +0000 Received: from smtprelay0055.hostedemail.com ([216.40.44.55] helo=smtprelay.hostedemail.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LicRR-000549-0j for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 22:34:55 +0000 Received: from filter.hostedemail.com (ff-bigip1 [10.5.19.254]) by smtprelay02.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 68A9C1FBE1BB for ; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 22:34:47 +0000 (UTC) X-SpamScore: 1 X-Spam-Summary: 2,0,0,d7314e92ebd740ac,49f40f4b3f783a2d,ve8rt@xplornet.com,rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org,RULES_HIT:355:379:946:973:988:989:1260:1261:1277:1311:1312:1313:1314:1345:1437:1515:1516:1518:1519:1534:1539:1593:1594:1595:1596:1711:1730:1747:1766:1792:2194:2199:2393:2559:2562:3294:3352:3636:3865:3867:3868:3869:3871:3872:3874:3876:3877:4649:5007:6114:6119:6997:7652:7903:7904:8501:9010:9108,0,RBL:none,CacheIP:none,Bayesian:0.5,0.5,0.5,Netcheck:none,DomainCache:0,MSF:not bulk,SPF:fu,MSBL:none,DNSBL:none Received: from [192.168.1.103] (xplr-ts-v10-208-114-191-189.barrettxplore.com [208.114.191.189]) (Authenticated sender: ron.t@xplornet.com) by omf03.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 22:34:45 +0000 (UTC) From: Ron Thompson To: "blacksheep" Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 16:34:37 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.4 Organization: ARS VE8RT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200903141634.37933.ve8rt@xplornet.com> X-session-marker: 726F6E2E744078706C6F726E65742E636F6D X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Getting started, maybe Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) I've been reading the occasional posting to the list, wondering if I could find some time and money to work with. As we do not yet have licences for the 500KHz band, the best place to start would be setting up for receiving. From my location is it likely that I could receive any amateur stations on 600 metres? Any recommendations for a relatively compact antenna? I do have a reasonably good receiver that covers the band, a Ten Tec SP-325 (crystal oven oscillators). -- Ron Thompson, VE8RT Yellowknife, NT, Canada 62 28.060 N 114 20.648 W Grid Square DP22tl "Who are are these that fly as a cloud, and as doves to their window?" 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Fri, 20 Mar 2009 16:43:10 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20090320154310875.D5A8E1C00081@mwinf3421.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <635EBA8E954C46899275118E6892F9F3@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <007501c9a883$81d23930$6401a8c0@asus> In-Reply-To: <007501c9a883$81d23930$6401a8c0@asus> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 15:43:10 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8064.206 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8064.206 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 503.7 Beacon - Green slot- G0NBD - running now 1345 hrs > Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0031_01C9A972.922EB430" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0031_01C9A972.922EB430 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi All=20 Running at 25 watts (to ae) 5 second pulse in -5 min Green time slot ,=20= from about 1345 hrs to day Will increase power round 2200 hrs to 150 watt and run till past midnight ,= =20 (pa may trip in which case sig will be -14 dB lower .. till reset ) last beep 0100 Hrs may be 0115 ! Tnx - G ..=20 G0NBD IO83LK ------=_NextPart_000_0031_01C9A972.922EB430 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi All
 
Running at 25 watts (to ae)  &nbs= p; 5=20 second pulse in  -5 min  Green time slot , from about 1345  h= rs=20 to day
 
Will increase power round 2200 hrs to=20= 150 watt=20 and run till  past midnight ,
 
(pa may trip in which case sig will be -14=20= dB lower=20 .. till reset )
 
last beep   0100 Hrs may be 0115 !
 
Tnx - G ..
 
G0NBD
IO83LK
------=_NextPart_000_0031_01C9A972.922EB430-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md05.mx.aol.com (rly-md05.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.143]) by air-md06.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMD061-90149bfffd31e9; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 15:54:19 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md05.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD051-90149bfffd31e9; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 15:53:57 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LjfM0-0006EK-OH for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 19:53:36 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LjfM0-0006EB-5f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 19:53:36 +0000 Received: from mail-bw0-f171.google.com ([209.85.218.171]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LjfLx-0004k8-SF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 19:53:36 +0000 Received: by bwz19 with SMTP id 19so253245bwz.4 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 12:53:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:x-goomoji-body:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=R1/CQMHn7bl9//rCDcACyXgBzCjuSEY35BD8HoNLyC8=; b=xKLbC4f7ZuOMHfkfeNyu5mLfPXUgYXhVBIMvZONl4X6zr91bHr1c2xT5R6dsfKshvK WehadrcBMJKT9A660tBx1EzcZLsiJGkksz6/7L4u4BJcfxwkPPW7nWfoKvEVlv8GocAQ TELGARHR3rLvlHs87sQEi0+gUlAYLwHG/2Ll0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:x-goomoji-body:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=FS+ZQw88Zm6BiiLWp7zSM9pcJHRCELLsVDiHUsSaX+4mjBaQj6YWStIAz9aTDypG2t Xqt32Q4dm6TgtFHdGqK+b+0BYv6Fufaf3k4S5HrlL8mR31PoNawwIcpJ/7FUPYcx+nel KzshEULTkdPCQ/w7MFOgveUo0Jju1MxgY5lZY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.118.138 with SMTP id v10mr110016bkq.182.1237319302905; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 12:48:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Goomoji-Body: true Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 19:48:22 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 2.9 (++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_04=2.88,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Who's playing on 503.7 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary=0016e6d77d9b8600c1046555d93b X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_06, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d292.1 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : fail X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --0016e6d77d9b8600c1046555d93b Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d77d9b8600be046555d93a --0016e6d77d9b8600be046555d93a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit OK, Who is it? [?] We can see you There's activity in the 5 and 6 minutes slots. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com --0016e6d77d9b8600be046555d93a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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--0016e6d77d9b8600be046555d93a-- --0016e6d77d9b8600c1046555d93b Content-Type: image/gif; name="360.gif" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 X-Attachment-Id: 360@goomoji.gmail Content-ID: <360@goomoji.gmail> R0lGODlhDAAPAKIFAJh3AP/zxAAAANyuAP/gaP///wAAAAAAACH/C05FVFNDQVBFMi4wAwEA AAAh+QQJAAAFACwAAAAADAAPAAADLVi63P6wjEmrDDjrGYj/H0cIIElwpJmeQweC4hu2BGDf nnjjrLvPLtlJUikWEgAh+QQJAAAFACwAAAAADAAPAAADLVi63M4jyllGuDjHQLr3GyF8I7GN JWpaXxu2IAvMdBfS9coReLzDpspk+HAkAAAh+QQJCgAFACwAAAAADAAPAAADLVi6vPMwlhGq vS+QzXkmQhcSWTiaJNWt3+qpQCxvnzynGmG/uUtOkWBjSCQmAAAh+QQJFAAFACwAAAAADAAP AAADLViz3BowyhWIvZcSgTmhnBd+Q4Vh2pmVBOC+lvbCpDmvpvopTV/8wKBwSCwWEgAh+QQJ CgAFACwAAAAADAAPAAADLVi6vPMwlhGqvS+QzXkmQhcSWTiaJNWt3+qpQCxvnzynGmG/uUtO kWBjSCQmAAAh+QQFAAAFACwAAAAADAAPAAADLVi63M4jyllGuDjHQLr3GyF8I7GNJWpaXxu2 IAvMdBfS9coReLzDpspk+HAkAAA7 --0016e6d77d9b8600c1046555d93b-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da02.mx.aol.com (rly-da02.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.76]) by air-da08.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDA084-a5849bfbb1432a; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 11:01:06 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da02.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA028-a5849bfbb1432a; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 11:00:37 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LjamQ-0003OA-LR for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 15:00:34 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LjamQ-0003O1-5y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 15:00:34 +0000 Received: from psmtp13.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.25]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LjamO-0002pd-BD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 15:00:34 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp13.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KGN00E5XOCQMX@psmtp13.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 16:00:26 +0100 (MET) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 16:00:23 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: XKO 17-03.jpg Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_GqJLRVM+nPw1Yk3baHe/Bw)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_GqJLRVM+nPw1Yk3baHe/Bw) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_teOlsSn/x3qfm3kDOtJR9A)" --Boundary_(ID_teOlsSn/x3qfm3kDOtJR9A) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Hi LF, capture XKO Henny pa3cpm 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: XKO 17-03.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld. --Boundary_(ID_teOlsSn/x3qfm3kDOtJR9A) Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
Hi LF,
capture XKO
Henny pa3cpm
73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
XKO 17-03.jpg

Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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autolearn=disabled,RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=1.236 Subject: LF: Re: [Lowfer] XGJ and XKO into TI3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Laurence, I kind of like this one better that I snagged from you page this morning just before sunrise :) http://w4dex.com/lf/xko_reports/XKO_KL1X_CostaRica.jpg Tnx, Dex Laurence BY3A-KL1X China wrote: > http://kl1x.com/ti3.jpg > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg04.mx.aol.com (rly-mg04.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.110]) by air-mg08.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG083-a0b49c7504c21f; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 05:03:22 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg04.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG045-a0b49c7504c21f; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 05:03:10 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Llg3b-0004kV-Up for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 09:02:55 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Llg3b-0004kM-J4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 09:02:55 +0000 Received: from bay0-omc3-s24.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.224]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Llg3W-0002Gq-Dh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 09:02:55 +0000 Received: from BAY101-W11 ([64.4.56.111]) by bay0-omc3-s24.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 23 Mar 2009 02:02:35 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [212.4.140.33] From: Lubos OK2BVG To: Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 10:02:35 +0100 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Mar 2009 09:02:35.0570 (UTC) FILETIME=[1BBEC120:01C9AB96] X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_be0323d6-d831-4cf8-b738-808692363042_" Subject: LF: XGJ X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_be0323d6-d831-4cf8-b738-808692363042_ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_3934fc92-270f-4f73-a11c-7a6fc2da5975_" --_3934fc92-270f-4f73-a11c-7a6fc2da5975_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Warren, LF! XGJ signal was good this morning. 73 Lubos, OK2BVG _________________________________________________________________ St=E1hn=ECte si zcela nov=FD Messenger 2009! http://download.live.com/messenger=3D --_3934fc92-270f-4f73-a11c-7a6fc2da5975_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Warren, LF!
XGJ signal was good this morning.
73

Lubos, O= K2BVG


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ESMTP id MAILINDC053-b0249b40d6119c; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 14:24:50 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc01.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC016-b0249b40d6119c; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 14:24:35 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LgNfh-0000QF-Ko for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 18:24:21 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LgNfg-0000Q6-It for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 18:24:20 +0000 Received: from ttsmtp-1.cpwnetworks.com ([62.24.128.242] helo=ttsmtp.cpwnetworks.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LgNfe-0000zL-UJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 18:24:20 +0000 X-Path: TalkTalk-smtp X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtkHAJeqs0lZ8Lap/2dsb2JhbACCJCyBaM5YgkeBPgY Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([89.240.182.169]) by ttsmtp.cpwnetworks.com with SMTP; 08 Mar 2009 18:23:59 +0000 Message-ID: <006101c9a01b$0d14fc10$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <0566EF6DE20B4249A3E74859BF9BA2C6@AGB> <9C03FBF153AB478A9B0DBC5580CF20D2@AGB> <28FA0F184B25444F8BA2F1EC5FC42C04@AGB> Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 18:23:59 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: AW: 503.7 Multi-function beacon ... Its working ! Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_005E_01C9A01B.0C8F7860" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_005E_01C9A01B.0C8F7860 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MF Do not forget the QRM aspect to other MF users when using PULSE transmission= s, also QRM to other services outside the amateur allocation on 500 khz G3KEV ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Beckmann, Gerhard=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 5:49 PM Subject: AW: LF: AW: 503.7 Multi-function beacon ... Its working ! Hi Graham, =20 Thank you for your statement! Well actually, especially Scattergram or equal measurement methods would b= e of interest regarding the aspect of signal path monitoring. (direct wave /= sky wave via cross correlation of pulse delay values). However, the aspect of interferences by using 500us pulses has to be taken= into consideration but may be there are coming up suitable solution by the=20= LF-group.=20 Another method of monitoring the signal path on 500 kHz could possibly per= formed by using the "PSK Sounder" software from ZL2AFP. And what I saw on a=20= first glance it should be usable for transmission and reception in order to=20= monitor the signal path situation. =20 By the way:=20 Do you know if Andy is continuing the Multi-function beaconing on 503.7 kH= z? In this case I would try long term signal monitoring by GB3RAL.exe and PSK= message decoding within the next evening sessions. =20 vy 73 de Gerhard / DK6NI =20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =20 =20 =20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacks= heep.org] Im Auftrag von Graham Gesendet: Sonntag, 8. M=E4rz 2009 15:36 An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Betreff: Re: LF: AW: 503.7 Multi-function beacon ... Its working ! =20 Hi, Grerhard, =20 Andy's post about the new beacon came out of the blue, (as is the signal= hihi), Working on this, I've simply added a page to the uk500khz news gro= up and posted links about to generate some interest and make sure the beaco= n details are known to hams and swl's out side this reflector ..=20 =20 The only thing that occurs to me is that there is a possibility for recep= tion reports to be directed to the 5 meg group , I note that the graph gen= erator by G4IRX requests your call and locator before processing the file=20= and presenting you with a plot. so I will see if anything can be done to pr= event this , the data format is of course distorted by having only one activ= e beacon.. so it will show up .. but may as yet be unexpected ...! =20 I note from previous email that the pulse aspect of the beacon is require= d for precise measurements, I think that may be possible to set up a 'experi= ment' but the aspect of interference to other users may be significant, An= dy has referred to the concept of 'phase reversal' in a continues carrier sy= stem (or medium pulse ?) that would perhaps be a acceptable mode of modulati= on, weather it could be transmitted by a 'normal' transmitter im note sure ,= but its worth noting that activities on 500, to date are not 'funded' as s= uch and time and capital out lay are part of the 'hobby' and such hardware r= equirements and software re-writes are beyond many of the active stations.=20= but perhaps as interest spreads .. things may change ..?=20 =20 Tnx-=20 =20 Graham =20 G0NBD IO83LK =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 From: Beckmann, Gerhard=20 Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 11:06 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Cc: 'Robert Hemesley'=20 Subject: LF: AW: 503.7 Multi-function beacon ... Its working ! =20 Hello Graham, Hello Andy,=20 =20 reading about your activities concerning Multi-function beacon I tried yes= terday evening to catch your signals, but unfortunately with no results copy= ing your sig. May be condx were not good enough. Moreover I had some bad ma= nmade QRM from TV and PC. =20 As Rob Hemesley told you I am active in 5-MHz-beaco- monitoring spec= ially concerning scattergram monitoring in order to analyse signal path sit= uation (direct wave / sky wave behaviour). But I am running both analysis software, GB3RAL.exe and Scattergram.= exe and it would not be any problem to modify the internal PC-clock speciall= y regarding GB3RAL.exe in order to analyse the long term signal level of you= r Multi-function beacon. So I will try to continue monitoring your Multi-fun= ction beacon hopefully that condx will be better in the next evening session= s (hi). If there will be Scattergram acties in future I certainly need some=20= more dB signal level, but it would be very interesting to investigate the si= gnal path situation. Of course, this is more interesting for those participants who are l= ocated in a distance range between 150 and 300 km in order to monitor the sl= ide crossover from direct wave to sky wave signal path.=20 However, thank you very much for implementation of your very intere= sting Multi-function beacon project and I will keep on running my monitoring= activities and will inform you in any case about further results. =20 vy 73 and a lot of success by running Multi-function beacons, I will be "o= n the qui vive" !!! =20 de Gerhard / DK6NI (JN59LN) =20 By the way:=20 Dial frequency 505.2 kHz, is that o.k.? (because GB3RAL.exe is decoding wi= th 1500 Hz too). For BPSK31-decoding I am using DigiPan Vers.2.0 =20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =20 =20 =20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacks= heep.org] Im Auftrag von Graham Gesendet: Samstag, 7. M=E4rz 2009 23:46 An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Betreff: LF: 503.7 Multi-function beacon ... Its working ! =20 So far so good .. quite a step up in signal round 2100 hrs =20 no frequency decode before then , 15 db over noise at 2130 =20 but a trend showing=20 about 1 hour slow qsb=20 =20 any other reports ? =20 G ..=20 =20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- No virus found in this incoming message. 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Do not forget the QRM aspect to other MF us= ers when=20 using PULSE transmissions, also QRM to other services outside the amate= ur=20 allocation on 500 khz
G3KEV
 
----- Original Message -----
Beckmann, Gerhard
Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 5:49=20 PM
Subject: AW: LF: AW: 503.7 Multi-fu= nction=20 beacon ... Its working !

Hi=20 Graham,

 

Thank you for your=20 statement!

Well actually,=20 especially Scattergram or equal measurement methods would be of interest=20 regarding the aspect of signal path monitoring. (direct wave / sky wave vi= a=20 cross correlation of pulse delay values).

However, the aspect=20 of interferences by using 500us pulses has to be taken into consideration=20= but=20 may be there are coming up suitable solution by the LF-group.=20

Another method of=20 monitoring the signal path on 500 kHz could possibly performed by using th= e=20 =93PSK Sounder=94 software from ZL2AFP. And what I saw on a first glance i= t should=20 be usable for transmission and reception in order to monitor the signal pa= th=20 situation.

 

By the way:=20

Do you know if Andy=20 is continuing the Multi-function beaconing on 503.7=20 kHz?

In this case I would=20 try long term signal monitoring by GB3RAL.exe and PSK message decoding wit= hin=20 the next evening sessions.

 

vy 73 de Gerhard /=20 DK6NI

 

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Von:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= ] Im Auftrag von <= /SPAN>Graham
Gesendet: Sonntag, 8. M=E4rz 2009=20 15:36
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Betreff: Re: LF: AW: 503.7 Multi= -function=20 beacon ... Its working !

 

Hi,=20 Grerhard,

 

Andy's post about the  new=20 beacon came out of the  blue, (as is the signal hihi), Working on thi= s,=20  I've simply added a page to the  uk500khz news group and posted= =20 links about to  generate some interest and make sure the=20 beacon details are known to hams and swl's out side this reflector ..= =20

 

The only thing that occurs=20 to  me is that there is a possibility for reception reports to be&nbs= p;=20 directed to the 5 meg group , I note that the  graph generator by=20 G4IRX  requests your call and locator  before processing the fil= e=20 and presenting you with a plot. so I will see if anything can be done to&n= bsp;=20 prevent this , the data format is of course distorted by having only one=20 active beacon.. so it will show up .. but may as yet be unexpected=20 ...!

 

I note from previous email that=20 the pulse aspect of the  beacon is required for precise measurements,= I=20 think that may be possible to set up a 'experiment'  but the aspect o= f=20 interference to  other users may be significant, Andy has referred to= the=20 concept of 'phase reversal' in a continues carrier system (or medium pulse= ?)=20 that would perhaps be a acceptable mode of modulation, weather it could be= =20 transmitted by a 'normal' transmitter im note sure , but its worth noting=20= that=20 activities on 500, to date  are not 'funded' as such and time and cap= ital=20 out lay are part of the 'hobby' and such hardware requirements  and=20 software re-writes are beyond many of the active stations. but perhaps as=20 interest spreads .. things may change ..?

 

Tnx-=20

 

Graham

 

G0NBD

IO83LK

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sent: Sunday,=20 March 08, 2009 11:06 AM

Subject:<= SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> LF: AW:=20 503.7 Multi-function beacon ... Its working=20 !

 

Hello Graham, Hello Andy,=20

 <= /P>

reading about your activities=20 concerning Multi-function beacon I tried yesterday evening to catch your=20 signals, but unfortunately with no results copying your sig. May be condx=20= were=20 not good enough.  Moreover I had some bad manmade QRM from TV and=20 PC.

 <= /P>

      A= s=20 Rob Hemesley told you I am active in 5-MHz-beaco- monitoring specially=20 concerning  scattergram monitoring in order to analyse signal path=20 situation (direct wave / sky wave behaviour).

      B= ut=20 I am running both analysis software, GB3RAL.exe and Scattergram.exe and it= =20 would not be any problem to modify the internal PC-clock specially regardi= ng=20 GB3RAL.exe in order to analyse the long term signal level of your=20 Multi-function beacon. So I will try to continue monitoring your=20 Multi-function beacon hopefully that condx will be better in the next even= ing=20 sessions (hi).

      I= f=20 there will be Scattergram acties in future I certainly need some more dB=20 signal level, but it would be very interesting to investigate the signal p= ath=20 situation.

      O= f=20 course, this is more interesting for those participants who are located in= a=20 distance range between 150 and 300 km in order to monitor the slide crosso= ver=20 from direct wave to sky wave signal path.

  =20     However, thank you very much for implementation of= =20 your very interesting Multi-function beacon project and I will keep on run= ning=20 my monitoring activities and will inform you in any case about further=20 results.

 <= /P>

vy 73 and a lot of success by=20 running Multi-function beacons, I will be =93on the qui vive=94=20 !!!

 <= /P>

de Gerhard  / =20 DK6NI  (JN59LN)

 <= /P>

By the way:=20

Dial frequency 505.2 kHz, is tha= t=20 o.k.? (because GB3RAL.exe is decoding with 1500 Hz=20 too).

For BPSK31-decoding I am using=20 DigiPan Vers.2.0

 <= /P>

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Von:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= ] Im Auftrag von <= /SPAN>Graham
Gesendet: Samstag, 7. M=E4rz 2009=20 23:46
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Betreff: LF: 503.7 Multi-functio= n beacon=20 ... Its working !

 

So far so good .. quite a step up=20 in signal round 2100 hrs 

no frequency decode before then ,=20 15 db over noise at 2130

 

but a trend showing=20

about  1 hour slow qsb=20

 

any other reports=20 ?

 

G ..=20

 


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rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma05.mx.aol.com (rly-ma05.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.49]) by air-ma09.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMA091-8ab49aaf93115b; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 16:08:03 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma05.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA055-8ab49aaf93115b; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 16:08:02 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ldst2-0000Th-HX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 21:07:48 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ldst2-0000TY-3a for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 21:07:48 +0000 Received: from mta21.charter.net ([216.33.127.81]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ldst0-000528-RY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 21:07:48 +0000 Received: from imp09 ([10.20.200.9]) by mta21.charter.net (InterMail vM.7.09.01.00 201-2219-108-20080618) with ESMTP id <20090301210720.XHEZ7559.mta21.charter.net@imp09>; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 16:07:20 -0500 Received: from [192.168.0.2] ([68.116.200.100]) by imp09 with charter.net id Mx7L1b00P2AU2w405x7LSt; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 16:07:20 -0500 Message-ID: <49AAF908.7040906@charter.net> Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 16:07:20 -0500 From: John Andrews User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, 600MRG X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: WE2XGR/3 WSPR tonight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) I will run a WSPR beacon on 508.500 kHz tonight from 2330 to 0300 UTC. That's a dial frequency of 507.000 kHz. Reports are welcome. John Andrews, WE2XGR/3 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg08.mx.aol.com (rly-dg08.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.92]) by air-dg08.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDG083-5e249c76b84360; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 06:59:24 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg08.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG081-5e249c76b84360; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 06:59:18 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Llhro-0005yE-Pq for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 10:58:52 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Llhro-0005y5-8U for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 10:58:52 +0000 Received: from mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.48]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Llhrn-0002JR-Ft for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 10:58:52 +0000 Received: from aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20090323105845.YMCG4080.mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 10:58:45 +0000 Received: from [192.168.2.33] (really [82.22.242.113]) by aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vG.2.02.00.01 201-2161-120-102-20060912) with ESMTP id <20090323105845.MTMM13254.aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@[192.168.2.33]> for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 10:58:45 +0000 From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 10:58:04 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <49C76B3C.7933.6BFBAD@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=9YlaCzn6_68A:10 a=nZnuQnCPJVceM0NBKQcA:9 a=4cWN17F8kN_mjO45nHtXb3lHIVoA:4 a=10sAvMsTeQkA:10 a=gmBXsakOPyV2O1YJ9SEA:9 a=MdMqCQolhZec9jNJ9i0A:7 a=coKIHIswEg73Tz1xr4SKZL4U7L8A:4 a=XF7b4UCPwd8A:10 a=PZ4txq_IQ5slJDd2sIIA:9 a=-gVXbXPLEONRXfXyskqg_sx_nHMA:4 a=bC4pTEGzVWIA:10 a=KQqxNPgzF0kA:10 a=lJtZseMHP14DZTIK:18 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Content-type: Multipart/Mixed; boundary=Message-Boundary-22061 Subject: LF: XGJ - excellent X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Message-Boundary-22061 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Content-Description: Mail message body Very good reception of WD2XGJ on 137kHz last night. The callsign was readable from 2352-0032, then nil until 0234 when it was solid to 0613. Attached is the call starting at 0452 and is one of the best transatlantic signals I have ever seen - there's even a small amount of 'dog boning'.. Mike, G3XDV ========== --Message-Boundary-22061 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Description: Attachment information. The following section of this message contains a file attachment prepared for transmission using the Internet MIME message format. If you are using Pegasus Mail, or any other MIME-compliant system, you should be able to save it or view it from within your mailer. If you cannot, please ask your system administrator for assistance. ---- File information ----------- File: XGJ-0452-20090323-lo.jpg Date: 23 Mar 2009, 10:55 Size: 3692 bytes. 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1LmZTI-0002WI-G8 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 20:13:08 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LmZTI-0002W9-3r for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 20:13:08 +0000 Received: from ttsmtp-3.cpwnetworks.com ([62.24.128.244] helo=ttsmtp.cpwnetworks.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LmZTG-0004S8-7a for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 20:13:08 +0000 X-Path: TalkTalk-smtp X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AkkGAHQtyklOlssd/2dsb2JhbACCKCuBbIccBsc+g3UG Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.150.203.29]) by ttsmtp.cpwnetworks.com with SMTP; 25 Mar 2009 20:13:00 +0000 Message-ID: <040101c9ad86$187fee70$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 20:12:59 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: KU4XR Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_03FE_01C9AD86.17EE83E0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_03FE_01C9AD86.17EE83E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Andy Are u currently in RX mode on 500 khz Active on QRS 3 tonite 502.57khz=20 De mal/g3kev ------=_NextPart_000_03FE_01C9AD86.17EE83E0 Content-Type: text/html; 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    Hi Andy
Are u currently in RX mode on 500 khz
Active on QRS 3 tonite 502.57khz
De mal/g3kev
 
------=_NextPart_000_03FE_01C9AD86.17EE83E0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg02.mx.aol.com (rly-mg02.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.108]) by air-mg06.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG064-9f749d2837c389; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 16:56:55 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg02.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG021-9f749d2837c389; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 16:56:32 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lokz9-0002kG-Tb for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 21:55:03 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lokz9-0002k7-H2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 21:55:03 +0100 Received: from [193.252.22.191] (helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lokz6-0002vO-AF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 21:55:03 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3611.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id CA52F7000086 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 22:54:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.2.250]) by mwinf3611.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 8C9D9700008A for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 22:54:42 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20090331205442576.8C9D9700008A@mwinf3611.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <6F1E1DECC22A42CFBB0797E7EB718EF4@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 21:54:41 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8064.206 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8064.206 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Beacons Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_010E_01C9B24B.4BB2F340" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_010E_01C9B24B.4BB2F340 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RiK ON7YD Is running in the -6 min time slot , showing at=20 http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html G ..=20 From: dave.riley3=20 Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 9:07 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: LF: Beacons Any 600M beacons or sigs from EU tonight?? TNX Dave @ WD2XSH/17 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.5.285 / Virus Database: 270.11.35/2033 - Release Date: 03/31/09 1= 3:05:00 ------=_NextPart_000_010E_01C9B24B.4BB2F340 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
RiK  ON7YD
 
Is running in the  -6 min time slot&nb= sp; ,=20 showing at
 
 
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Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 9:07 PM
Subject: LF: Beacons

Any 600M beacons or sigs from EU=20 tonight??
 
 
TNX
 
Dave @ WD2XSH/17
 
 


No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 8.5.285 / Virus Da= tabase:=20 270.11.35/2033 - Release Date: 03/31/09 13:05:00
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charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Subject: AW: LF: DD7PC SIGNAL.jpg X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) SGVsbG8gSGVubnksDQpNYW55IHRoYW5rcyBmb3IgZWFzeSBRUlNTMyBRU08gKHdhcyBqdXN0 IG15IG51bWJlciA4IG9uIDEzNy43KS4NCkkgc2VuZCBhIGNhcHR1cmUgb2YgeW91ciBzaWdu YWwgdGhpcyBldmVuaW5nLg0KUGxlYXNlIGNhbiBJIHNlbmQgbXkgUVNMIGNhcmQgZGlyZWN0 PyBJIHB1dCBpbiBhbiBlbnZlbG9wZSB3aXRoIGEgc3RhbXAgZm9yIHlvdXIgcmV0dXJuLg0K DQp2eTczDQpNYXJjbw0KREQ3UEMgKGluIEpONDlheCkNCg0KDQotLS0tLSBPcmlnaW5hbG5h Y2hyaWNodCAtLS0tLQ0KVm9uOiBvd25lci1yc2diX2xmX2dyb3VwQGJsYWNrc2hlZXAub3Jn IDxvd25lci1yc2diX2xmX2dyb3VwQGJsYWNrc2hlZXAub3JnPg0KQW46IGJsYWNrc2hlZXAg PHJzZ2JfbGZfZ3JvdXBAYmxhY2tzaGVlcC5vcmc+DQpHZXNlbmRldDogVGh1IE1hciAyNiAw ODo1ODowOCAyMDA5DQpCZXRyZWZmOiBMRjogREQ3UEMgU0lHTkFMLmpwZw0KDQp0aGUgY2Fw dHVyZSBtYXJjbw0KaGVubnkgY3BtDQoNCg== From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf07.mx.aol.com (rly-mf07.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.177]) by air-mf07.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMF072-96e49b251ae2cb; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 05:51:39 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf07.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF074-96e49b251ae2cb; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 05:51:29 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lfu7F-0002ba-Gn for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 10:50:49 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lfu7F-0002bR-4q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 10:50:49 +0000 Received: from fwx.uvtc.net ([195.22.25.2] helo=uvtcmail.se) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lfu7D-0002pS-4R for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 10:50:49 +0000 Received: from radiorummet ([87.227.51.55]) by uvtcmail.se with MailEnable ESMTP; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 10:50:39 +0000 Message-ID: <1DF611251F48450DB34200591E4F2D0D@radiorummet> From: "Gus" To: References: In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 11:50:38 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 X-ME-Bayesian: 0.000000 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Looking for HF to LF-Transverter, ... ? Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Marco, there is a very easy and good way to build a transmitting converter or transverter. For the mixer you have to use 8 diodes and 5 transformer, 1n4148 do the job. A filter and a simple amplifire and you are in the air. I build this type and use it now, i have test all mode like AM,SSB,CW WSPR with great sucess in a range of 10-900 kHz with an ICOM tranceiver. If you are interested or any else, i have made a design and pcb-board. 73 de Gus SM6BHZ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scholz, Marco " To: Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 9:55 PM Subject: LF: Looking for HF to LF-Transverter, ... ? Dear LF-Group, sorry for bandwidth, i looking for some sort of of mixer/transverter to use a shortwave transceiver on 137KHz for WSPR. Can be in experimental stage, but i need something to start. To build something from scratch is a bit a challenge for me, so i thought i ask around. Maybe someone has to sell some parts? If yes, please send me a mail to dd7pc@gmx.de Many thanks, vy73 Marco DD7PC From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh10.mx.aol.com (rly-mh10.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.146]) by air-mh01.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMH014-bfd49c72173149; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 01:43:28 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh10.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH105-bfd49c72173149; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 01:43:18 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Llcva-0002ra-Rj for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 05:42:26 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Llcva-0002rR-6b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 05:42:26 +0000 Received: from smtp08.online.nl ([194.134.42.53]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LlcvY-0007ma-70 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 05:42:26 +0000 Received: from smtp08.online.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp08.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 804B66672A for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 06:42:22 +0100 (CET) Received: from pa3fnytrqxpddu (s5593e077.adsl.wanadoo.nl [85.147.224.119]) by smtp08.online.nl (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 06:42:22 +0100 (CET) From: To: "blacksheep" Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 06:42:21 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Importance: Normal X-Online-Scanned: by Cloudmark authority (on smtp08.online.nl) X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: xgj Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01C9AB82.84679990" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, 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------=_NextPart_000_0019_01C99DC3.12FB6A60-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd03.mx.aol.com (rly-dd03.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.150]) by air-dd06.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDD063-b6d49bbb2e37e; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 09:37:04 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd03.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD037-b6d49bbb2e37e; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 09:36:37 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LiU2K-0000of-0n for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 13:36:24 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LiU2J-0000oW-2c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 13:36:23 +0000 Received: from mail-fx0-f174.google.com ([209.85.220.174]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LiU2H-0000wa-Ci for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 13:36:23 +0000 Received: by fxm22 with SMTP id 22so3060023fxm.4 for ; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 06:36:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=n/TBZeGDGqko7ElRhTLul306ZWhcQn7rIMfh/5GIZMM=; b=TrNKVVDYMh0vxrOVednJeNEaw87i3th/UwoVPE6TqniSye8pbwVtcMt/ZlHQ/EQoEp 8LY5h6SdA4tM5S7kBybBHTPFoR57eKAI+RF1WKIyMG4/GtU+9ZCdDAroXBRmcXTEUj8c 3bQVCD+zvUEi4fqn7NZx63tp5ugTb42deymm4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=McMpFc2E5zjsSn/Hb41KkUEtdktHpEgy/OA4PQgD0un3Ku+gIxmB9Z/zzQS7kgC7Bf 8GrpuNU4p5DaGk/JnnGFoMgsPzCGwNMaTKQ2Vw8Lbv/+grv3cvD6Qttt8zfEaLNSUCQb NlukPn+CvCheyRgjiAPfcVcvfK13ZT9xnZyik= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.76.129 with SMTP id c1mr783709bkk.9.1237037775420; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 06:36:15 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5467B2F044F54A7980C65F62409256D3@AGB> References: <5467B2F044F54A7980C65F62409256D3@AGB> Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 13:36:15 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: Multi-function beacon Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636458d302d7e7b0465144d99 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d234.2 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --001636458d302d7e7b0465144d99 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit That listing was 5.29MHz to prove the S/W - it shows the power and tone frequencies of all three - RAL/WES/ORK on the TA path. Don't forget to offset the time :-) Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/3/14 Graham > Dave, >>> *Sample of 5290kc. over last night.<<<* > ** > *Is this from 5290 or 503.7 ....... ??* > ** > *Graham .. * > > > > *From:* dave.riley3 > *Sent:* Saturday, March 14, 2009 12:08 PM > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > *Cc:* 600MRG > *Subject:* LF: Re: Re: Multi-function beacon > > *Andy, beacons,* > ** > *Looks like the beacon program is up and running correctly as 5 mhz shows > relative sigs and frequency counts.* > ** > *Last night conditions here were very poor for T/A on 600m, even with this > broad high pressure area that helped keep the noise down. Even DI2AM was > very weak and SM6BHZ did not decode.* > ** > *So I will run it again on you tonight, but I did see remnanats of what > looks like a letter K during the beacon transmission times from you ( in > ARGO QRSS3 )...* > ** > ** > *Sample of 5290kc. over last night.* > ** > *2009 03 14 03 00 47.51 39.97 36.06 23.91 0.00 1495.70 1494.14 0.00 > 2009 03 14 03 15 34.12 37.03 31.32 23.36 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 > 2009 03 14 03 30 33.87 30.14 35.05 29.91 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 > 2009 03 14 03 45 30.91 26.89 26.38 23.12 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 > 2009 03 14 04 00 32.25 44.39 25.68 24.24 0.00 0.00 1494.14 0.00 > 2009 03 14 04 15 40.13 39.54 35.79 24.24 0.00 1495.51 1494.14 0.00 > 2009 03 14 04 30 44.71 42.47 29.35 30.72 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 > 2009 03 14 04 45 33.16 37.11 35.32 23.03 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 > 2009 03 14 05 00 48.07 46.44 34.46 25.30 0.00 1495.90 1494.14 0.00 > 2009 03 14 05 15 43.12 47.39 30.40 23.83 0.00 1495.70 1494.14 0.00 > 2009 03 14 05 30 48.13 31.83 37.48 26.50 0.00 1495.70 0.00 0.00 > 2009 03 14 05 45 47.11 42.90 37.04 22.88 0.00 1495.90 1494.34 0.00 > 2009 03 14 06 00 28.69 30.99 30.46 23.66 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 > 2009 03 14 06 15 41.04 31.09 29.58 23.29 0.00 1495.90 0.00 0.00* > ** > *The 'red' station usually seems the strongest on the graph...* > ** > *TNX* > ** > *Dave @ /17* > ** > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Andy Talbot > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org ; uk_beacons@yahoogroups.com > *Sent:* Friday, March 13, 2009 5:57 AM > *Subject:* LF: Re: Multi-function beacon > > Just a reminder to all - this beacon is still going, and will probably > continue to do so until further notice. A few listeners have downloaded > the software, and thanks to all (you know who your are :-) for the plots / > listings. I am not in a position to compile them, so don't expect > revelations, but Gerhard / DK6NI has been monitoring pretty > well continuously, and has plotted some deep fades / enhancements measured > over hours with depths in the regions of 30dB. > > Are there any stations in the US in a position to monitor ? > > Please note that if using the recommended 5meg beacon monitoring software > you'll either have to set the delta time to -240 (or -180 or -120) seconds > or adjust the PC clock by two, three or four minutes to cope with the four > minute offset I'm running it on. > > Andy G4JNT > www.g4jnt.com > > > 2009/3/6 Andy Talbot > >> I've now started transmitting a timed beacon signal on 503.7kHz that >> is identical in format to that of GB3SSS operated over the winter months of >> the last two years from Poldhu on 1.9 and 3.5MHz, and has a similar signal >> structure to the 5MHz beacons, GB3RAL, WES and ORK. These all have an >> initial CW ident and stepped power levels for aural reception, and a >> precisely defined period of full-power plain carrier for S/N measurements. >> See http://www.rsgb-spectrumforum.org.uk/5mhz%20beacons.htm for the >> complete 5MHz signal structure. For this MF transmission, as on GB3SSS, >> the pulsed sounder sequence of the 5MHz beacons is replaced with a PSK31 >> message which lasts from 30s to approx 48 seconds after the start >> >> Auto Monitoring software writen by G3PLX is available for monitoring >> these beacons, it measures signal to noise during the carrier period and >> saves to file as well as plotting the last 40 hours worth of measurements. >> The software can be downloaded from >> http://www.rsgb.org/spectrumforum/hf/beaconauto.php . PSK31 data can be >> copied with Digipan, Fldigi, PSK31SBW or a host of other packages. >> >> *TIMING * >> The 503.7kHz transmission takes place every 15 minutes at 4 minutes past >> the quarter hour. >> ie each transmission starts at *xx:04, xx:19, xx:34 and xx:49 * This >> time slot has been selected so that the transmission do not interfere with >> my continuous ongoing reception of the 5Mhz beacons - the active antenna >> used for these is overloaded by the 500kHz signal and I have already lost >> data when the WSPR beacon transmission coincided with one of the monitoring >> windows. >> >> NOTE If using the G3PLX software, this only monitors for the three 5MHz >> beacons at 00, 01 and 02 minutes. >> *SO IT WILL BE NECESSARY TO FRIG THE SOFTWARE * to monitor >> this transmission at the 04 minute point. The necessary alteration can be >> done by firstly setting your PC clock accurately to the correct time, then >> setting the Track Time box to -240 (minus 240 seconds). This will make the >> software look for this transmission during the time window it thinks it >> would be receiving GB3RAL, and log the MF transmission during the first >> minute, on the red trace, as if it were GB3RAL >> >> The beacon uses the identical hardware to the WSPR transmissions of the >> last few weeks, with the the only change being a reprogramming of the >> controller PIC. In fact the very same hardware was previously loaned to >> the Poldhu club for their beacons, with the only difference being a change >> to the final Low Pass filter on the output of the broadband PA. >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.13/2001 - Release Date: 03/13/09 > 05:59:00 > > --001636458d302d7e7b0465144d99 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
That listing was 5.29MHz to prove the S/W - it shows the power and tone= frequencies of all three - RAL/WES/ORK on the TA path.
=A0
Don't forget to offset the time :-)

Andy =A0G4JNT
www= .g4jnt.com


2009/3/14 Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
Dave, >>> Sample of 5290kc. over last night.<<<
=A0
Is this=A0 from 5290=A0 or=A0 503.7 ....... ??=
=A0
Graham ..
=A0
=A0

Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 12:08 PM
Cc: 600MRG
Subject: LF: Re: Re: Multi-function beacon

Andy, beacons,
=A0
Looks like the beacon program is up and runnin= g correctly as 5 mhz shows relative sigs and frequency counts.
=A0
Last night conditions here were very poor for=20= T/A on 600m, even with this broad high pressure area that helped keep the no= ise down. Even DI2AM was very weak and SM6BHZ did not decode.
=A0
So I will run it again on you tonight, but I d= id see remnanats of what looks like a letter K during the beacon transmissio= n times from you ( in ARGO QRSS3 )...
=A0
=A0
Sample of 5290kc. over last night.
=A0
2009 03 14 03 00 47.51 39.97 36.06 23.91 0.00=20= 1495.70 1494.14 0.00
2009 03 14 03 15 34.12 37.03 31.32 23.36 0.00 0.00 0= .00 0.00
2009 03 14 03 30 33.87 30.14 35.05 29.91 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
2009 03 14 03 45 30.91 26.89 26.38 23.12 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
2009 03 14 0= 4 00 32.25 44.39 25.68 24.24 0.00 0.00 1494.14 0.00
2009 03 14 04 15 40..= 13 39.54 35.79 24.24 0.00 1495.51 1494.14 0.00
2009 03 14 04 30 44.71 42.= 47 29.35 30.72 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
2009 03 14 04 45 33.16 37.11 35.32 23.03 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
2009 03 14 0= 5 00 48.07 46.44 34.46 25.30 0.00 1495.90 1494.14 0.00
2009 03 14 05 15 4= 3.12 47.39 30.40 23.83 0.00 1495.70 1494.14 0.00
2009 03 14 05 30 48.13 3= 1.83 37.48 26.50 0.00 1495.70 0.00 0.00
2009 03 14 05 45 47.11 42.90 37.04 22.88 0.00 1495.90 1494.34 0.00
2009 0= 3 14 06 00 28.69 30.99 30.46 23.66 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
2009 03 14 06 15 4= 1.04 31.09 29.58 23.29 0.00 1495.90 0.00 0.00
=A0
The 'red' station usually seems the st= rongest on the graph...
=A0
TNX
=A0
Dave @ /17
=A0
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 5:57 AM<= /div>
Subject: LF: Re: Multi-function beaco= n

Just a reminder to all - this beacon is still going, and will probably=20= continue to do so until further notice.=A0=A0 A few listeners have downloade= d the software, and thanks to all (you know who your are :-) for the plots /= listings.=A0=A0 I am not in a position to compile them, so don't expect= revelations, but Gerhard=A0 /=A0 DK6NI has been monitoring pretty well=A0co= ntinuously, and has plotted some=A0deep fades / enhancements measured over h= ours with depths in the regions of 30dB.
=A0
Are there any stations in the US in a position to monitor ?=A0=A0
=A0
Please note that if using the recommended 5meg beacon monitoring softwa= re you'll either have to set the delta time to -240 (or -180 or -120) se= conds or adjust the PC clock by two, three or four minutes to cope with the=20= four minute offset I'm running it on.
=A0
Andy =A0G4JNT
2009/3/6 Andy Talbot <andy.g4jnt@googlema= il.com>
I've now=A0started transmitting a timed=A0 beacon signal on 503.7kH= z that is=A0identical in format to that of GB3SSS operated over the winter m= onths of the last two years=A0=A0from Poldhu on 1.9 and 3.5MHz, =A0and has= =A0a similar signal structure to the 5MHz beacons, GB3RAL, WES and ORK.=A0 T= hese all have=A0an initial CW ident and=A0stepped power levels for aural rec= eption,=A0and a precisely defined period of full-power plain carrier for S/N= measurements.=A0=A0
See=A0 =A0http://www.rsgb-spectrumforum.org.uk/5mhz%20beacons= .htm=A0 for the complete 5MHz =A0signal structure.=A0=A0For this MF tran= smission, as on GB3SSS, the pulsed sounder sequence of the 5MHz beacons is r= eplaced with a PSK31 message which lasts from=A030s to approx 48 seconds aft= er the start
=A0
Auto Monitoring software writen by G3PLX is available for monitoring th= ese beacons, it measures signal to noise during the carrier period and saves= to file as well as plotting the last 40 hours worth of measurements.
The software can be downloaded from=A0 http://www.rsgb.org/spectr= umforum/hf/beaconauto.php=A0.=A0=A0 PSK31 data can be copied with Digipa= n, Fldigi, PSK31SBW or a host of other packages.
=A0
TIMING
The 503.7kHz transmission takes place every 15 minutes at 4 minutes pas= t the quarter hour.=A0
ie=A0each transmission starts at xx:04, xx:19, xx:34 and xx:49= =A0=A0=A0=A0This time slot has been selected so that the transmissi= on do not interfere with my continuous ongoing reception of the 5Mhz beacons= - the active antenna used for these is overloaded by the 500kHz signal and=20= I have already lost data when the WSPR beacon transmission coincided with on= e of the monitoring windows.
=A0
NOTE=A0=A0 If using the=A0G3PLX software, this only=A0monitors for the=20= three 5MHz beacons at =A000, 01 and 02 minutes.
SO IT WILL BE NECESSARY=A0TO FRIG=A0THE SOFTWARE =A0to= monitor this=A0transmission at the 04 minute point.=A0=A0=A0The necessary a= lteration can be done by firstly setting=A0your PC clock accurately to the c= orrect time, then setting the Track Time box to -240 (minus 240 seconds)..= =A0 This will make the software look for this transmission during the time= =A0window it thinks it would be receiving GB3RAL, and log the=A0MF transmiss= ion during the first minute, on the red trace, as if it were GB3RAL=A0
=A0
The beacon uses the identical hardware to the=A0WSPR transmissions of= =A0the last few weeks, with the the only change being a=A0reprogramming of t= he controller PIC.=A0=A0 In fact the very same hardware was previously loane= d to the Poldhu club for their beacons, with the only difference being a cha= nge to the final Low Pass filter on the output of the broadband PA.
=A0


No virus found in this incoming message.
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--001636458d302d7e7b0465144d99-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da06.mx.aol.com (rly-da06.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.80]) by air-da04.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDA044-a7749abfe94151; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 10:43:41 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da06.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA067-a7749abfe94151; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 10:43:19 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LeAI5-0003di-Gy for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 15:42:49 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LeAI4-0003dZ-V9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 15:42:48 +0000 Received: from vms173007pub.verizon.net ([206.46.173.7]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LeAI3-0006b9-5H for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 15:42:48 +0000 Received: from DR2 ([71.184.212.10]) by vms173007.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KFV005JAYAMQ5SF@vms173007.mailsrvcs.net> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 09:42:24 -0600 (CST) Message-id: <19A578917E70491491C2F436D978EC77@DR2> From: "dave.riley3" To: References: <000701c99b44$838ac180$1402a8c0@e7010> Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 10:42:23 -0500 MIME-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: WSPR-Versuch MW.doc Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0129_01C99B23.91EBF350" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.7 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_70_80, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0129_01C99B23.91EBF350 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable DI2AG / DJ2LFHi Walter, I would have copied and decoded you many times but after QSL of the first tw= o, I shifted to WE2XVY ( 508 ) frequency who is much closer in Arizona, but=20= nil sigs all night... BTW, allowing for QSB you were -6 db from DI2AM... TNX for good sigs, Dave ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Walter und Marianne Staubach=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 9:36 AM Subject: LF: WSPR-Versuch MW.doc =20 Dear All on 600m, here are some results of the test last night. It was great. 73 Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF =20 =20 =20 DI2AG / DJ2LF =20 Test with WSPR ( beacon-mode ) on MF 505.090MHz =20 March 1. 19:00UTC to March 2. 07:00UTC =20 Results =20 13 stations reported via WSPR, 6stations reported via reflector or gave ad= ditional comments. Total sum: 378 reports ODX: AA1A 6077Km ( mni tnx, Dave ) Mni tnx also to Andy, G4JNT, who went QRT with his WSPR beacon that night. =20 =20 Call QRB Loc Best signal at Poorest signal at Nr= . of reports =20 (Km) (SNR) (UTC) (SNR) (UTC) =20 AA1A 6.077 FN42pb -24 02:00 ----------- =20= 2 DJ6LB 11 JN59mm + 8 22:44 +5 22:12 =20= 9 OR7T 481 JO20ix -4 20:02 -6 19:48 =20= 3 G4WGT 1.048 IO83qp -17 20:20 -27 20:10 =20= 7 SQ7MPJ 634 JO91rs -16 20:10 -26 20:20 =20= 22 LA3BEA 1.140 JO29og -8 01:38 -27 06:32 =20= 95 G3XVL 753 JO02nb -3 20:48 -16 20:20 =20= 20 Michael 221 JN49bf +2 18:54 -7 19:00 =20= 10 GM4ISM 1.220 IO85ar -14 23:20 -29 18:28 =20= 85 DD7PC 225 JN49ax -4 18:28 -26 20:20 =20= 6 G0KTN 973 IO81ti +0 00:02 -26 18:02 =20= 54 F4DTL 639 JN18fp -4 22:28 -21 18:02 =20= 17 G4JNT 893 IO90iv -4 20:34 -21 18:22 =20= 48 =20= -------------- =20= Total 378 =20 Mni tnx to All =20 73 Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF 03.02.09 =20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0129_01C99B23.91EBF350 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable DI2AG / DJ2LF
Hi Walter,
 
I would have copied and decoded you many times b= ut=20 after QSL of the first two, I shifted to WE2XVY ( 508 ) frequency who is muc= h=20 closer in Arizona, but nil sigs all night...
 
BTW, allowing for QSB you were -6 db from=20 DI2AM...
 
TNX for good sigs,
 
Dave
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 9:36=20 AM
Subject: LF: WSPR-Versuch MW.doc

 

Dear All on=20 600m,

        =20 here are some results of the test last night. It was=20 great.

73  Walter  DI2AG /=20 DJ2LF

 <= /o:p>

 <= /o:p>

 <= /o:p>

DI2AG=20 / DJ2LF

 <= /o:p>

Test with WS= PR ( beacon-mode=20 ) on MF 505.090MHz

 <= /o:p>

March 1. 19:= 00UTC to March=20 2. 07:00UTC

 <= /o:p>

Results

 <= /o:p>

13 stations=20= reported via=20 WSPR, 6stations reported via reflector or gave additional=20 comments.

Total sum: 3= 78=20 reports

ODX: AA1A 60= 77Km ( mni tnx,=20 Dave )

Mni tnx also= to Andy, G4JNT,=20 who went QRT with his WSPR beacon that night.

 <= /o:p>

 <= /o:p>

Call         QRB   &n= bsp;  Loc       Best signal at   &= nbsp; Poorest signal at&nbs= p;   Nr. of reports&nb= sp;            &= nbsp;=20

        &nb= sp;    =20  (Km)         = ;    =20      =  (SNR)=20 (UTC)    (SNR)=20 (UTC)

 <= /o:p>

AA1A      6.077  FN42pb    -24  02:00&nbs= p;        =20 -----------   &= nbsp;            = ;       =20   2

DJ6LB       &nbs= p; =20 11  JN59mm   + 8  22:44 &nbs= p;      = ;   +5  22:12          &nb= sp;            &= nbsp;=20 9

OR7T        = ; =20 481  JO20ix      &nb= sp; -4  20:02       = ;   =20 -6  19:48        &nb= sp;            &= nbsp;=20   3

G4WGT   1.048   IO83qp     -17  20:20        =20 -27  20:10        &n= bsp;            =    =20 7

SQ7MPJ     634 = ;  JO91rs   =    -16  20= :10      =    =20 -26  20:20        &n= bsp;            =  =20 22

LA3BEA  1.140  JO29og &n= bsp;     -8&= nbsp; 01:38   &nb= sp;     =20 -27  06:32        &n= bsp;            =  =20 95

G3XVL      &nb= sp;753  JO02nb       -= 3  20:48         =20 -16  20:20        &n= bsp;            =  =20 20

Michael      &= nbsp;221  JN49bf       +2  18:54         = ;  =20 -7  19:00        &nb= sp;            &= nbsp;=20 10

GM4ISM  1.220  IO85ar &n= bsp;    -14 = 23:20    &n= bsp;    =20 -29  18:28        &n= bsp;            =  =20 85

DD7PC      &nb= sp;225   JN49ax=        -4  18:28        &nbs= p;=20 -26  20:20        &n= bsp;            =    =20 6

G0KTN       973  IO81ti        =20 +0  00:02        =20 -26  18:02        &n= bsp;            =  =20 54

F4DTL       &nb= sp;639  JN18fp       =20 -4  22:28        &nb= sp;=20 -21  18:02        &n= bsp;            =  =20 17

G4JNT       &nb= sp;893  IO90iv      &n= bsp;  -4  = 20:34     &nbs= p;   =20 -21  18:22        &n= bsp;            =  =20 48

         &nb= sp;            &= nbsp;            = ;            &nb= sp;            &= nbsp;            = ;            &nb= sp;          =20 --------------

         &nb= sp;            &= nbsp;            = ;            &nb= sp;     =20      =             &nbs= p;            &n= bsp;            = Total   =20 378

 <= /SPAN>

       Mni tnx=20 to All

         &nb= sp;            &= nbsp;       =20

73     =20  Walt= er  DI2AG / DJ2LF

      =20 03.02.09

 <= /SPAN>

 <= /SPAN>

------=_NextPart_000_0129_01C99B23.91EBF350-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg10.mx.aol.com (rly-mg10.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.116]) by air-mg03.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMG033-a3e49be2cdb32d; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 06:41:50 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg10.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG108-a3e49be2cdb32d; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 06:41:32 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LjAFP-0003Qu-IF for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 10:40:43 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LjAFO-0003Ql-OB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 10:40:42 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-1-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.52]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LjAFL-000354-B6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 10:40:42 +0000 X-Trace: 168005653/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.59.96/None/g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.59.96 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Microsoft Office Outlook 11Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArcEAJvJvUlYajtg/2dsb2JhbACCUVOGeoNbxRIHg3gG X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,372,1233532800"; d="gif'147?scan'147,208,217,147";a="168005653" Received: from 88-106-59-96.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.59.96]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 16 Mar 2009 10:40:37 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <009001c9a588$7eb02c60$6401a8c0@asus> <00e001c9a5a7$f07216a0$6401a8c0@asus> <826BA6086575402A8C87062492069F5A@AGB> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 10:40:37 -0000 Message-ID: <004501c9a623$a4bf81d0$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <826BA6086575402A8C87062492069F5A@AGB> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AcmlvEqNx4lQaS9KQDqZ7f+2D+BElAAZc6jw X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0046_01C9A623.A4C1F2D0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0046_01C9A623.A4C1F2D0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0047_01C9A623.A4C1F2D0" ------=_NextPart_001_0047_01C9A623.A4C1F2D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Graham, LF, You wrote :- >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute intervals. <<< that could be backed off to 15 mins as the beacon only sends every 15 ?? I mentioned in my previous mail to ignore the text on the page as it was originally for grabber 1 for when I upgrade the web site (to a new design & better navigation etc), also mentioned is that upload is every 30 minutes. If the uploaded chart proves useful or interesting to operators & viewers then I will change the text & make it a permanent feature for the foreseeable future. BTW :- For those of you who are not familiar with the chart - The RED trace is Andy's (G4JNT) beacon signal & the BLACK trace is the noise level at my QTH. The Blue & GREEN are not in use & should be ignored on this chart as they are for the other beacons used when monitoring on the 5MHz allocation. Cheers, Gary - G4WGT _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham Sent: 15 March 2009 22:17 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software Gary.. That looks good ... 0500 looks best time for a qso .. see you then Smile emoticon >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute intervals. <<< that could be backed off to 15 mins as the beacon only sends every 15 ?? the 15 db over the noise in day time is the same at this qth .. looks like the big dips round 1900 where just when we where testing .. typical hihi tnx- G .. From: Gary - G4WGT Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 7:55 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: RE: Syncback software LF, I have now got the software, Syncback running correctly (I think). The purpose of this is to upload the chart from Andy's beacon as received here to my web site periodically, ie. every 30 minutes. I now have a receiver running 24/7 monitoring Andy,s beacon on 503.7KHz. You can view the chart on my web site at :- http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html For the moment ignore the text on the page as it is originally designed to use with the 500KHz grabber when I renew my web site design. If it is a useful upload I will make it a permanent feature but may have to extend the frequency coverage of grabber 1 so not to overload the PC with operations which will cause the PC to struggle. Let me have your comments please. 73 Gary - G4WGT. _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT Sent: 15 March 2009 16:10 To: LF -RSGB LF Group Subject: LF: Syncback software Hi LF, If anyone is using Syncback software & can help, please. I am tying to upload a file to my website who's filename does not change, only the file size changes. I tried to do it with Argo-upload but failed so I downloaded Syncback & still failing. Syncback gives me the following message :- ********************************** Can connect, but unable to change to destination directory: /chart01.bmp:not a directory ********************************** The Syncback help does not give me the answer. Any help will be appreciated Or Will Argo-Upload do it? Or Is there something else to do it? Thanks in anticipation, 73, Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. _____ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.13/2001 - Release Date: 03/14/09 06:54:00 ------=_NextPart_001_0047_01C9A623.A4C1F2D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Graha= m, LF,

&nb= sp;

You wrote :-

>>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute intervals. <<< that could be backed off to  15 mins as the beacon only&nb= sp; sends every 15 ??

&nb= sp;

I mentioned in my previous mail to ignore the text on the page as it was originally for grabber 1 for when I upgrade the web site (to a new design &a= mp; better navigation etc), also mentioned is that upload is every 30 minutes.

&nb= sp;

If the uploaded chart proves useful or interesting to operators & viewers then=20= I will change the text & make it a permanent feature for the foreseeable f= uture.

&nb= sp;

BTW :-

&nb= sp;

For those of you  who are not familiar with the chart –

&nb= sp;

The RED trace is Andy’s (G4JNT) beacon signal & the BLACK trace is the noi= se level at my QTH.

&nb= sp;

The Blue & GREEN are not in use & should be ignored on this chart as they are for the other beacons used when monitoring on the 5MHz allocation.

&nb= sp;

Cheers,<= o:p>

&nb= sp;

Gary = 211; G4WGT

&nb= sp;

&nb= sp;

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham
Sent: 15 March 2009 22:17
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software

 

Gary<= /span>..

 

That looks good  ... 0500 looks best time for=20= a qso .. see you then 3D"Smile 

 

>>>Uploa= d is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute intervals. <<< t= hat could be backed off to  15 mins as the beacon only  sends every 15= ??

 

the  15 db o= ver the noise in day time is the  same at this qth .. looks like the big dips round 1900  where just when we where testing ..  typical hihi

 

tnx- G .. =

 

Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 7:55 PM

Subject: LF: RE: Syncback software

 

LF,=

&nb= sp;

I have now got the software, Syncback running correctly (I think).

&nb= sp;

The purpose of this is to upload the chart from Andy’s beacon as received here to my web site periodically, ie. every 30 minutes.

&nb= sp;

I now have a receiver running 24/7 monitoring Andy,s beacon on 503.7KHz.

&nb= sp;

You can view the chart on my web site at :-

&nb= sp;

http://myweb.tiscali.= co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html

&nb= sp;

For the moment ignore the text on the page as it is originally designed to use with=20= the 500KHz grabber when I renew my web site design. If it is a useful upload I w= ill make it a permanent feature but may have to extend the frequency coverage of grabber 1 so not to overload the PC with operations which will cause the PC=20= to struggle.

&nb= sp;

Let me have your comments please.

&nb= sp;

73<= /o:p>

&nb= sp;

Gary – G4WGT.

&nb= sp;

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT
Sent: 15 March 2009 16:10
To: LF -RSGB LF Group
Subject: LF: Syncback softwar= e

 

Hi LF,=

 =

If anyone is using Syncback sof= tware & can help, please.

 =

I am tying to upload a file to=20= my website who’s filename does not change, only the file size changes. I tried to= do it with Argo-upload but failed so I downloaded Syncback & still failing.=

 =

Syncback gives me the following= message :-

 =

*******************************= ***

Can connect, but unable to chan= ge to destination directory:

/chart01.bmp:not a directory

*******************************= ***

The Syncback help does not give= me the answer.

 =

Any help will be appreciated

 =

Or=

 =

Will Argo-Upload do it?

 =

Or=

 =

Is there something else to do i= t?

 =

Thanks in anticipation,

 =

73,

 

Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.=

 


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Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/3/17 Gary - G4WGT > *Andy,* > > * * > > *>>>>* Did the messages about the modified beacon timing software get > though this reflector - don't appear to see them in the in box? > > *I received the original & the correction to the url.* > > * * > > *OK, I used =93decode=94 as the first word that came out of my head.* > > * * > > *I have looked at the black trace on my beacon chart & it doesn=92t seem t= o > coincide with the peaks on the blue & green trace, there is a black peak b= ut > slightly offset. On my grabber saves there is very high noise level for a > couple of minutes some times the blue & green has a peak which shows on th= e > text log as well.* > > * * > > *But I have also seen very short carriers which I thought at first were > part of you normal beacon signal & when looking carefully at the timestamp > were at the following times =96 1735, 1750 & 1751. At these times there wa= s no > burst of noise.* > > * * > > *Cheers,* > > * * > > *Gary - G4WGT.* > > * * > > * * > > * * > ------------------------------ > > *From:* owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto: > owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] *On Behalf Of *Andy Talbot > *Sent:* 17 March 2009 20:36 > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > *Subject:* Re: LF: RE: Who's playing on 503.7 > > > > continued ... > > > > The black trace gives it away. If there is extended QRM that spans the > noise measurement period (which is the WHOLE minute before) and the 5s Tx > period it will show up on both. The different system of noise > measurement explains why the (no QRMed) green and blue traces are not > sitting on top of teh black trace. Ideally, with no signal there, they > should. > > > Andy G4JNT > www.g4jnt.com > > 2009/3/17 Andy Talbot > > I filled in a couple at 1800, deliberately, by flicking the test switch on > my beacon Tx. But there are too many peaks on the green annd blue > traces to not suspect someone else is firing up a Tx. > > > > Its not a case of false decodes - there's not such thing as a 'decode' wit= h > this monitoring S/W. All it does is to measure the signal power over > precisely this time slot, using a synchronised FFT with a bin size of > 0.2Hz, which after windowing gives about 0.4Hz noise bandwidth. So any QR= M > would have to be quite strong to make a significant impact, and persist ov= er > 5 seconds. Short spikes get averaged out to not-a-lot. > > > > Did the messages about the modified beacon timing software get though this > reflector - don't appear to see them in the in box? > > > > If not, http://www.g4jnt.com/beacons.htm at the bottom look for PCBCN > > Directly, http://www.g4jnt.com/PCBCN.zip > > > > > Andy G4JNT > www.g4jnt.com > > 2009/3/17 Gary - G4WGT > > > > *Hi Andy, LF,* > > * * > > *I have not detected anything here other than your Tx.* > > * * > > *I was going to e-mail anyway because I have some false decodes on the 5 & > 6 minute slots, see list below. These coincide with high bursts of noise > which I experience here from time to time. Is there an issue with the deco= de > software being =93foxed=94 by high noise level?* > > * * > > *Gary =96 G4WGT.* > > * * > > *15:45 40.35 25.76 -240.0 0.0* > > *15:46 41.05 25.76 -240.0 1499.5* > > *15:47 39.52 25.76 -240.0 0.0* > > *16:00 41.70 25.75 -240.0 1499.5* > > *16:01 41.62 25.75 -240.0 1510.6* > > *16:02 31.49 25.75 -240.0 0.0* > > *16:15 40.10 25.47 -240.0 0.0* > > *16:16 30.16 25.47 -240.0 0.0* > > *16:17 29.17 25.47 -240.0 0.0* > > *16:30 37.85 28.93 -240.0 0.0* > > *16:31 41.80 28.93 -240.0 0.0* > > *16:32 36.23 28.93 -240.0 0.0* > > *16:45 40.98 25.80 -240.0 1499.6* > > *16:46 29.45 25.80 -240.0 0.0* > > *16:47 30.17 25.80 -240.0 0.0* > > *17:00 35.23 25.58 -240.0 0.0* > > *17:01 28.35 25.58 -240.0 0.0* > > *17:02 35.28 25.58 -240.0 0.0* > > *17:15 45.32 25.10 -240.0 1499.4* > > *17:16 30.14 25.10 -240.0 0.0* > > *17:17 27.57 25.10 -240.0 0.0* > > *17:30 51.09 25.30 -240.0 1499.5* > > *17:31 53.16 25.30 -240.0 1499.6* > > *17:32 30.18 25.30 -240.0 0.0* > > *17:45 47.93 25.21 -240.0 1499.5* > > *17:46 48.63 25.21 -240.0 1499.5* > > *17:47 49.12 25.21 -240.0 1499.5* > > *18:00 38.75 34.29 -240.0 0.0* > > *18:01 32.01 34.29 -240.0 0.0* > > *18:02 28.89 34.29 -240.0 0.0* > > *18:15 51.36 26.01 -240.0 1499.6* > > *18:16 38.85 26.01 -240.0 0.0* > > *18:17 40.74 26.01 -240.0 0.0* > > *18:30 43.06 24.96 -240.0 1499.5* > > *18:31 29.24 24.96 -240.0 0.0* > > *18:32 29.61 24.96 -240.0 0.0* > > *18:45 36.98 26.26 -240.0 0.0* > > *18:46 34.87 26.26 -240.0 0.0* > > *18:47 36.14 26.26 -240.0 0.0* > > *19:00 50.09 26.57 -240.0 1499.7* > > *19:01 42.04 26.57 -240.0 1518.0* > > *19:02 28.58 26.57 -240.0 0.0* > > * * > > * * > > * * > ------------------------------ > > *From:* owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto: > owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] *On Behalf Of *Andy Talbot > *Sent:* 17 March 2009 19:48 > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > *Subject:* LF: Who's playing on 503.7 > > > > OK, Who is it? [?] > > We can see you > > There's activity in the 5 and 6 minutes slots. > > > > > > > Andy G4JNT > www.g4jnt.com > > > > > --0016e6d99bef27d050046562ed7b Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I=A0sometimes flick the test switch and send a carrier - so you're=20= probably seeing those.
=A0
Andy =A0G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com
=

2009/3/17 Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>

Andy,

=A0

>>>>= ; Did the messages about the modified beacon timing softwa= re get though this reflector - don't appear to see them in the in box?

I received the=20= original & the correction to the url.

=A0

OK, I used =93d= ecode=94 as the first word that came out of my head.

=A0

I have looked a= t the black trace on my beacon chart & it doesn=92t seem to coincide wit= h the peaks on the blue & green trace, there is a black peak but slightl= y offset. On my grabber saves there is very high noise level for a couple of= minutes some times the blue & green has a peak which shows on the text=20= log as well.

=A0

But I have also= seen very short carriers which I thought at first were part of you normal b= eacon signal & when looking carefully at the timestamp were at the follo= wing times =96 1735, 1750 & 1751. At these times there was no burst of n= oise.

=A0

Cheers,<= /font>

=A0

Gary - G4WGT.

=A0

=A0

=A0

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_= lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf=20= Of Andy Talbot
Sent: 17 March 2009 20:36=20


To: rsgb_lf_grou= p@blacksheep.org
Subject:<= /span> Re: LF: RE: Who's playing on 503.7=20

=A0

continued ...

=A0

The black trace gives it away.=A0 If there is extended =A0QRM that spans= =A0 the noise measurement period (which is the WHOLE minute before) and the=20= 5s Tx period it will show up on both.=A0=A0 The different system of noise me= asurement=A0explains why the (no QRMed) green and blue traces are not sittin= g on top of teh black trace.=A0=A0 Ideally, with no signal there, they shoul= d.

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Andy =A0G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com

2009/3/17 Andy Talbot <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>

I filled in a couple at 1800, deliberately, by flicking the test switch on=20= my beacon Tx.=A0=A0=A0But there are too many peaks on the green annd blue tr= aces=A0to not suspect someone else is firing up a Tx.

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Its not a case of false decodes - there's not such thing as a 'deco= de' with this monitoring S/W.=A0=A0 All it does is to measure=A0the sign= al power over precisely =A0this time slot, using=A0a synchronised FFT with a= =A0bin size of 0.2Hz,=A0which after windowing gives=A0about 0.4Hz noise band= width.=A0 So any QRM would have to be quite strong to make a significant imp= act, and persist over 5 seconds.=A0=A0 Short spikes get=A0 averaged out to n= ot-a-lot.

=A0

Did the messages about the modified beacon timing software get though this=20= reflector - don't appear to see them in the in box?

=A0

If not,=A0 h= ttp://www.g4jnt.com/beacons.htm=A0at the bottom look for PCBCN

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Andy =A0G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com

2009/3/17 Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>

=A0

Hi Andy, LF,

=A0

I have not dete= cted anything here other than your Tx.

=A0

I was going to=20= e-mail anyway because I have some false decodes on the 5 & 6 minute slot= s, see list below. These coincide with high bursts of noise which I experien= ce here from time to time. Is there an issue with the decode software being=20= =93foxed=94 by high noise level?

=A0

Gary =96 G4WGT.=

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15:45=A0 40.35= =A0 25.76=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

15:46=A0 41.05= =A0 25.76=A0 -240.0=A0 1499.5

15:47=A0 39.52= =A0 25.76=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

16:00=A0 41.70= =A0 25.75=A0 -240.0=A0 1499.5

16:01=A0 41.62= =A0 25.75=A0 -240.0=A0 1510.6

16:02=A0 31.49= =A0 25.75=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

16:15=A0 40.10= =A0 25.47=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

16:16=A0 30.16= =A0 25.47=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

16:17=A0 29.17= =A0 25.47=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

16:30=A0 37.85= =A0 28.93=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

16:31=A0 41.80= =A0 28.93=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

16:32=A0 36.23= =A0 28.93=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

16:45=A0 40.98= =A0 25.80=A0 -240.0=A0 1499.6

16:46=A0 29.45= =A0 25.80=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

16:47=A0 30.17= =A0 25.80=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

17:00=A0 35.23= =A0 25.58=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

17:01=A0 28.35= =A0 25.58=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

17:02=A0 35.28= =A0 25.58=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

17:15=A0 45.32= =A0 25.10=A0 -240.0=A0 1499.4

17:16=A0 30.14= =A0 25.10=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

17:17=A0 27.57= =A0 25.10=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

17:30=A0 51.09= =A0 25.30=A0 -240.0=A0 1499.5

17:31=A0 53.16= =A0 25.30=A0 -240.0=A0 1499.6

17:32=A0 30.18= =A0 25.30=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

17:45=A0 47.93= =A0 25.21=A0 -240.0=A0 1499.5

17:46=A0 48.63= =A0 25.21=A0 -240.0=A0 1499.5

17:47=A0 49.12= =A0 25.21=A0 -240.0=A0 1499.5

18:00=A0 38.75= =A0 34.29=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

18:01=A0 32.01= =A0 34.29=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

18:02=A0 28.89= =A0 34.29=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

18:15=A0 51.36= =A0 26.01=A0 -240.0=A0 1499.6

18:16=A0 38.85= =A0 26.01=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

18:17=A0 40.74= =A0 26.01=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

18:30=A0 43.06= =A0 24.96=A0 -240.0=A0 1499.5

18:31=A0 29.24= =A0 24.96=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

18:32=A0 29.61= =A0 24.96=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

18:45=A0 36.98= =A0 26.26=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

18:46=A0 34.87= =A0 26.26=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

18:47=A0 36.14= =A0 26.26=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

19:00=A0 50.09= =A0 26.57=A0 -240.0=A0 1499.7

19:01=A0 42.04= =A0 26.57=A0 -240.0=A0 1518.0

19:02=A0 28.58= =A0 26.57=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

=A0

=A0

=A0

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_= lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf=20= Of Andy Talbot
Sent: 17 March 2009 19:48To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<= br> Subject: LF: Who's playi= ng on 503.7

=A0

OK, Who is it?

We can see you

There's activity in the=A05 and 6 minutes slots.

=A0

=A0


Andy =A0G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com

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=A0


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I am tempted to build a high-voltage QRP transmitter from one of these beasts ;-) Sure that "DK51" is a unijunction transistor ? I found a french site (in french language) which seems to say that the DK51 is more or less compatible with an MJE13001, which is a 600 Volt, 0.2 A silicon NPN transistor. Looking at the circuit, it seems to make sense: http://pagesperso-orange.fr/doumai/Clartec_Lampe/Clartec_Lampe_8W.htm Cheers, Wolf DL4YHF . From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg05.mx.aol.com (rly-dg05.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.89]) by air-dg07.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDG072-5c849c75115265; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 05:06:44 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg05.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG055-5c849c75115265; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 05:06:33 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Llg6z-0004qp-Tv for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 09:06:25 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Llg6z-0004qg-Fa for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 09:06:25 +0000 Received: from psmtp13.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.25]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Llg6x-0002KX-Hs for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 09:06:25 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp13.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KGY00L18BY7XN@psmtp13.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 10:06:07 +0100 (MET) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 10:06:06 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <6D5F38706EE348D3BC8A9202CE57C5FD@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: XGJ 23-03.jpg Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_AUskEmVdZO3K/DFiVS26Mw)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_AUskEmVdZO3K/DFiVS26Mw) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_KMwfDJrmtUNtXv+9UZq46g)" --Boundary_(ID_KMwfDJrmtUNtXv+9UZq46g) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Hi Warren and Lf, capture XGJ Henny pa3cpm best 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: XGJ 23-03.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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Hi Warren and Lf,
capture XGJ
Henny pa3cpm
best 73s
 
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X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m240.2 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : fail X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --001636c5b541b6826d04659ec77f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm now down to the last two unpopulated PCBs for the AD9852 DDS module http://www.g4jnt.com/projects.htm and http://www.g4jnt.com/newdds.htm . The PCBs are up for grabs for anyone with some spare chips at a reduced price of =A37 each as there is a bit a silver tarnish on the PCBs after bein= g stored. First come first served, with proceeds for these last two PCBs to the South Coast Repeater and Beacon Group funds - any additional donations always welcome. http://www.scrbg.org/donate/ The AD9852 is a bit long in the tooth now so my next DDS design will migrate to one of the later devices with higher frequency clock and better signal purity. Hopefully migration of JT65, WSPR, FSK441, PSK31 and multipurpose beacon code won't be too time consuming. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com --001636c5b541b6826d04659ec77f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I'm now down to the=A0last two unpopulated PCBs for=A0the AD9852 DD= S module=A0http://www.g4jnt.co= m/projects.htm=A0=A0 and=A0 = http://www.g4jnt.com/newdds.htm=A0
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The PCBs are up for grabs for anyone with some spare chips=A0at a reduc= ed price of =A37 each as there=A0is a=A0bit a silver tarnish on the PCBs aft= er being stored.
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First come first served, with proceeds=A0for these last two=A0PCBs to= =A0the South Coast Repeater and Beacon Group funds=A0=A0- any additional don= ations always welcome.=A0=A0http://= www.scrbg.org/donate/=A0
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The AD9852 is a bit long in the tooth now so=A0my next DDS design will=20= migrate to one of the later devices with higher frequency clock and better s= ignal purity.=A0=A0 Hopefully migration of JT65, WSPR, FSK441, PSK31 and mul= tipurpose beacon code won't be too time consuming.

Andy =A0G4JNT
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--001636c5b541b6826d04659ec77f-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg08.mx.aol.com (rly-mg08.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.114]) by air-mg02.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMG024-a2749b4446e326; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 18:19:36 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg08.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG081-a2749b4446e326; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 18:19:28 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LgRLB-0003Yp-7F for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 22:19:25 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LgRLA-0003Yc-2T for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 22:19:24 +0000 Received: from mout2.freenet.de ([195.4.92.92]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LgRL8-0003Xk-CG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 22:19:23 +0000 Received: from [195.4.92.11] (helo=1.mx.freenet.de) by mout2.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID beckmann.erlangen@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #76) id 1LgRL6-0000G3-RV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 23:19:21 +0100 Received: from w0bd1.w.pppool.de ([89.58.11.209]:1535 helo=2a2d7ed321c6425) by 1.mx.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID beckmann.erlangen@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #79) id 1LgRL4-0007BI-Be for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 23:19:20 +0100 From: "Beckmann, Gerhard" To: References: <28FA0F184B25444F8BA2F1EC5FC42C04@AGB> Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 23:19:19 +0100 Message-ID: <42E7DAD85B85407398CEA9B6E0A21280@2a2d7ed321c6425> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AcmgG7ZPjkulcWyvTXSmReloKI5NyQAHq/MQ X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: AW: LF: AW: 503.7 Multi-function beacon ... Its working ! Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0023_01C9A044.4FE3A8B0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01C9A044.4FE3A8B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Andy, =20 Thank you for this special action! Again this evening is very much QRM and unfortunately no reception in JN59LN. But I will try again within the next days in each case beginning at 21:00 UTC. =20 Again mni tks and best 73 de Gerhard / DK6NI =20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =20 =20 _____ =20 Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von Andy Talbot Gesendet: Sonntag, 8. M=E4rz 2009 19:27 An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Betreff: Re: LF: AW: 503.7 Multi-function beacon ... Its working ! =20 It is no trouble to continue the transmission. I have set up the equipment in the garage where it does not get in the way of other shack activites, and won't do too much damage if the euipment blows up! So I can leave it running for a few weeks unless the antenna is needed for other purposes.. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/3/8 Beckmann, Gerhard Hi Graham, =20 Thank you for your statement! Well actually, especially Scattergram or equal measurement methods would be of interest regarding the aspect of signal path monitoring. (direct wave / sky wave via cross correlation of pulse delay values). However, the aspect of interferences by using 500us pulses has to be taken into consideration but may be there are coming up suitable solution by the LF-group.=20 Another method of monitoring the signal path on 500 kHz could possibly performed by using the =93PSK Sounder=94 software from ZL2AFP. And what I sa= w on a first glance it should be usable for transmission and reception in order to monitor the signal path situation. =20 By the way:=20 Do you know if Andy is continuing the Multi-function beaconing on 503.7 kHz? In this case I would try long term signal monitoring by GB3RAL.exe and PSK message decoding within the next evening sessions. =20 vy 73 de Gerhard / DK6NI =20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D =20 =20 =20 _____ =20 Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von Graham Gesendet: Sonntag, 8. M=E4rz 2009 15:36=20 An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Betreff: Re: LF: AW: 503.7 Multi-function beacon ... Its working !=20 =20 Hi, Grerhard, =20 Andy's post about the new beacon came out of the blue, (as is the signal hihi), Working on this, I've simply added a page to the uk500khz news group and posted links about to generate some interest and make sure the beacon details are known to hams and swl's out side this reflector ..=20 =20 The only thing that occurs to me is that there is a possibility for reception reports to be directed to the 5 meg group , I note that the graph generator by G4IRX requests your call and locator before processing the file and presenting you with a plot. so I will see if anything can be done to prevent this , the data format is of course distorted by having only one active beacon.. so it will show up .. but may as yet be unexpected ....! =20 I note from previous email that the pulse aspect of the beacon is required for precise measurements, I think that may be possible to set up a 'experiment' but the aspect of interference to other users may be significant, Andy has referred to the concept of 'phase reversal' in a continues carrier system (or medium pulse ?) that would perhaps be a acceptable mode of modulation, weather it could be transmitted by a 'normal' transmitter im note sure , but its worth noting that activities on 500, to date are not 'funded' as such and time and capital out lay are part of the 'hobby' and such hardware requirements and software re-writes are beyond many of the active stations. but perhaps as interest spreads .. things may change ..?=20 =20 Tnx-=20 =20 Graham =20 G0NBD IO83LK =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 From: Beckmann, Gerhard=20 Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 11:06 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Cc: 'Robert Hemesley'=20 Subject: LF: AW: 503.7 Multi-function beacon ... Its working ! =20 Hello Graham, Hello Andy,=20 =20 reading about your activities concerning Multi-function beacon I tried yesterday evening to catch your signals, but unfortunately with no results copying your sig. May be condx were not good enough. Moreover I had some bad manmade QRM from TV and PC. =20 As Rob Hemesley told you I am active in 5-MHz-beaco- monitoring specially concerning scattergram monitoring in order to analyse signal path situation (direct wave / sky wave behaviour). But I am running both analysis software, GB3RAL.exe and Scattergram.exe and it would not be any problem to modify the internal PC-clock specially regarding GB3RAL.exe in order to analyse the long term signal level of your Multi-function beacon. So I will try to continue monitoring your Multi-function beacon hopefully that condx will be better in the next evening sessions (hi). If there will be Scattergram acties in future I certainly need some more dB signal level, but it would be very interesting to investigate the signal path situation. Of course, this is more interesting for those participants who are located in a distance range between 150 and 300 km in order to monitor the slide crossover from direct wave to sky wave signal path.=20 However, thank you very much for implementation of your very interesting Multi-function beacon project and I will keep on running my monitoring activities and will inform you in any case about further results. =20 vy 73 and a lot of success by running Multi-function beacons, I will be =93o= n the qui vive=94 !!! =20 de Gerhard / DK6NI (JN59LN) =20 By the way:=20 Dial frequency 505.2 kHz, is that o.k.? (because GB3RAL.exe is decoding with 1500 Hz too). For BPSK31-decoding I am using DigiPan Vers.2.0 =20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =20 =20 =20 _____ =20 Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von Graham Gesendet: Samstag, 7. M=E4rz 2009 23:46 An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Betreff: LF: 503.7 Multi-function beacon ... Its working ! =20 So far so good .. quite a step up in signal round 2100 hrs =20 no frequency decode before then , 15 db over noise at 2130 =20 but a trend showing=20 about 1 hour slow qsb=20 =20 any other reports ? =20 G ..=20 =20 _____ =20 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com =20 Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.9/1988 - Release Date: 03/06/09 19:17:00 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01C9A044.4FE3A8B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Andy,

 

Thank you for=20= this special action!

Again this eve= ning is very much QRM and unfortunately no reception in JN59LN.

But I will try= again within the next days in each case beginning at 21:00 UTC.<= /font>

 

Again mni tks=20= and best 73 de Gerhard=A0 /=A0 DK6NI

 

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 =

Von:= owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g] Im Auftrag von Andy Talbot
Gesendet: Sonntag, 8. M=E4rz=20= 2009 19:27
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Betreff: Re: LF: AW: 503.7 Multi-function beacon ... Its working !

 

It is no trouble to continue the transmission.  I h= ave set up the equipment in the garage where it does not get in the way of other shack activites, and won't do too much damage if the euipment blows up!  So I can leave it running for a few weeks unless the antenna is needed for other purposes..


Andy  G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com

2009/3/8 Beckmann, Gerhard <beckmann.erlangen@freenet.de>

= Hi Graham,

=  =

= = Thank you for your statement!

= = Well actually, especially Scattergram or equal measurement methods would be of interest regarding the aspect of signal path monitoring. (direct wave / sky wave via cross correlation of pulse delay values).

= = However, the aspect of interferences by using 500us pulses has to be taken into consideration but may be there are coming up suitable solution by the LF-gro= up.

= = Another method of monitoring the signal path on 500 kHz could possibly performed by using t= he “PSK Sounder” software from ZL2AFP. And what I saw on a first glance it should be usable for transmission and reception in order to monito= r the signal path situation.

= =  

= = By the way:

= = Do you know if Andy is continuing the Multi-function beaconing on 503.7 kHz?<= o:p>

= = In this case I would try long term signal monitoring by GB3RAL.exe and PSK message decoding within the next evening sessions.

= =  

= = vy 73 de Gerhard / DK6NI

= =  

= = =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D

= =  

= =  

 

Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@= blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von Graham
Gesendet: Sonntag, 8. M=E4rz=20= 2009 15:36

Betreff: Re: LF: AW: 503.7 Multi-function beacon ... Its working !

=  

Hi, Grerhard,

=  

Andy's post about the  new beacon came out of the  blue, (as is the signa= l hihi), Working on this,  I've simply added a page to the  uk500khz news group and posted links about to  generate some interest and make sure the beacon details are known to hams and swl's out side this reflector ..

=  

The only thing that occurs to  me is that there is a possibility for recept= ion reports to be  directed to the 5 meg group , I note that the  grap= h generator by G4IRX  requests your call and locator  before process= ing the file and presenting you with a plot. so I will see if anything can be do= ne to  prevent this , the data format is of course distorted by having onl= y one active beacon.. so it will show up .. but may as yet be unexpected ....!=

=  

I note from previous email that the pulse aspect of the  beacon is requir= ed for precise measurements, I think that may be possible to set up a 'experime= nt'  but the aspect of interference to  other users may be significant= , Andy has referred to the concept of 'phase reversal' in a continues carrier system (or medium pulse ?) that would perhaps be a acceptable mode of modula= tion, weather it could be transmitted by a 'normal' transmitter im note sure , but its worth noting that activities on 500, to date  are not 'funded' as s= uch and time and capital out lay are part of the 'hobby' and such hardware requirements  and software re-writes are beyond many of the active stations. but perhaps as interest spreads .. things may change ..?

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Tnx-

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Graham

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Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 11:06 AM

Subject:= LF: AW: 503.7 Multi-function beacon ... Its working !

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Hello Graham, Hello Andy,

 

reading about your activities concerning Multi-function= beacon I tried yesterday evening to catch your signals, but unfortunately with no results copying your sig. May be condx were not good enough.  Moreover I had so= me bad manmade QRM from TV and PC.

 

      As Rob Hemesley told you= I am active in 5-MHz-beaco- monitoring specially concerning  scattergram monitoring in order to analyse signal path situation (direct wave / sky wave behaviour).

      But I am running both an= alysis software, GB3RAL.exe and Scattergram.exe and it would not be any problem to modify the internal PC-clock specially regarding GB3RAL.exe in order to analyse the lon= g term signal level of your Multi-function beacon. So I will try to continue monitoring your Multi-function beacon hopefully that condx will be better in the next evening sessions (hi).

      If there will be Scatter= gram acties in future I certainly need some more dB signal level, but it would be very interesting to investigate the signal path situation.

      Of course, this is more=20= interesting for those participants who are located in a distance range between 150 and 300 k= m in order to monitor the slide crossover from direct wave to sky wave signal path.

       However, thank you= very much for implementation of your very interesting Multi-function beacon project and I will keep on running my monitoring activities and will inform you in any cas= e about further results.

 

vy 73 and a lot of success by running Multi-function be= acons, I will be “on the qui vive” !!!

 

de Gerhard  /  DK6NI  (JN59LN)

 

By the way:

Dial frequency 505.2 kHz, is that o.k.? (because GB3RAL= .exe is decoding with 1500 Hz too).

For BPSK31-decoding I am using DigiPan Vers.2.0<= /font>

 

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Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@= blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von Graham
Gesendet: Samstag, 7. M=E4rz=20= 2009 23:46
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Betreff: LF: 503.7 Multi-func= tion beacon ... Its working !

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So far so good .. quite a step up in signal round 2100 hrs  =

no frequency decode before then , 15 db over noise at 2130

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but a trend showing

about  1 hour slow qsb

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any other reports ?

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G ...

 

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       =20= as=20 Roland ( DL3NDR, former DI2AT ) lend his equipment to me, DI2AG will create=20= a=20 non-stop-whisper-weekend beginning tonight 18UTC an ending Monday morni= ng=20 7UTC. Power will be 27dBm, QRG 505.090KHz. I am interested in your reports,=20= also=20 daylight propagation.Thank you in advance.
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------=_NextPart_000_0041_01C99E76.34C205B0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh08.mx.aol.com (rly-mh08.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.144]) by air-mh02.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMH024-bec49c7803d7c; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 08:27:57 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh08.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH084-bec49c7803d7c; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 08:27:45 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LljFD-0006j7-Nr for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 12:27:07 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LljFD-0006iy-3b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 12:27:07 +0000 Received: from qw-out-1920.google.com ([74.125.92.148]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LljFA-0003IB-VH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 12:27:07 +0000 Received: by qw-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 5so1039510qwc.16 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 05:27:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=TOqyaIZb+EkobaFpekMyTNPOPXgg6P9xs2Uj7ayygQU=; b=uwmAnse3gYAKTjqpBSP7u07VGRCxGaze9Ad7sAXIzQWKTdq9E5SzurXEHj2iByAmoa 289+qxRLoVZF5/pD9arnD9CiYg3foPUjlwsAfPKdAOoA2MH+lfhUIdV/rLXRKjE1HGEK aBjZyYHE0+DshlY7L/5EcbMAA89Zjmah97Dgg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Nz4kGpgHTHMhc4RAIepTcBTUFkl0e/L7XR2tkQyFQ5qMibG5bOP+e8bf7FHcr7aIJF YySTakEgfEPyTcOxBSPJgHqcpjmKplwEmvshbOViDLZmTg465lqLd92piTDP1NxZmMnB Cmt9YQsc6ZhUPjSCzWtlnuVMhwPTZiZ4Ueo9Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.60.75 with SMTP id o11mr8681324qah.230.1237811222112; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 05:27:02 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <49C76B3C.7933.6BFBAD@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> References: <49C76B3C.7933.6BFBAD@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 08:27:02 -0400 Message-ID: <57a24ca70903230527v1911ac6cqec938c95883f3a5@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: XGJ - excellent Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d229.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Mike, Thank you for the excellent report! 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Attached is the call starting at 0452 and is one of the best > transatlantic signals I have ever seen - there's even a small amount > of 'dog boning'.. > > Mike, G3XDV > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > The following section of this message contains a file attachment > prepared for transmission using the Internet MIME message format. > If you are using Pegasus Mail, or any other MIME-compliant system, > you should be able to save it or view it from within your mailer. > If you cannot, please ask your system administrator for assistance. > > =A0 ---- File information ----------- > =A0 =A0 File: =A0XGJ-0452-20090323-lo.jpg > =A0 =A0 Date: =A023 Mar 2009, 10:55 > =A0 =A0 Size: =A03692 bytes. > =A0 =A0 Type: =A0JPEG-image > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de06.mx.aol.com (rly-de06.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.142]) by air-de02.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDE024-4e149cc0c70338; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:15:19 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de06.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE064-4e149cc0c70338; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:14:59 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LmymN-0005S0-Of for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 23:14:31 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LmymN-0005Rr-DO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 23:14:31 +0000 Received: from smtp102.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com ([76.13.13.41]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LmymL-00041G-72 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 23:14:31 +0000 Received: (qmail 57756 invoked from network); 26 Mar 2009 23:14:20 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=RrmULI5pQd33s9USszGZ71zCwx5ML3kscxhZiDjsZTJQ72sZXFe6Wlsz6LfZdR6tJ/ktAnFJCqnBhY31Pl+W6q9H0N2wKC/mYI208YL654S0A+SgG8TPuaUU302nRMmCvbDP4KRYTmd+L8V1wt6InnAJc9cc3AOVp8TSdGxJLx8= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.100?) (we0h@75.168.158.40 with plain) by smtp102.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Mar 2009 23:14:20 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: qgY.osIVM1n05_2fDWPSCyCx5_8qNO1mzqNV.1a.aG.DFkaboocqCSwSIXbvvStRomUCuQRXAjfsOtdcUCcKh0Km6Q_FWt8sEJm5GeQq55aX9Qkc1Q_62dGVYHNkBkWID0q5BrUPieeeUA4iogNUCguIHeznStt7vesGu7WhLRR0jlBqRPH5b3FZelbl7A-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <49CC0C42.4000008@yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 18:14:10 -0500 From: Mike-WE0H User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090318) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <49CBF051.9090707@usa.net> <49CBFB9E.9040903@usa.net> <49CC0310.3040808@telia.com> In-Reply-To: <49CC0310.3040808@telia.com> X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Lazy Man's CW made it to Venus and back Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Over here, at least in the Midwest states, we say Give her hell OM!!! hi hi... Mike WE0H Johan wrote: > I didn't know it was an English saying/proverb! The swedish translation > "Kasta pärlor för svinen" is sometimes used in similar circumstances... > > 73 > Johan > > Alberto wrote: > >>> the meaning of the English saying of "throwing pearls to the porks".... >>> >> Or perhaps it is "throwing pearls to the pigs", but the meaning does not >> change... >> From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc10.mx.aol.com (rly-dc10.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.39]) by air-dc01.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDC014-b4c49bfa0c236d; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 09:08:44 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc10.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC108-b4c49bfa0c236d; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 09:08:19 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LjZ0h-0002ew-Cq for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 13:07:11 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LjZ0g-0002en-3d for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 13:07:10 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.159]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LjZ0e-0002BE-5Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 13:07:10 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3414.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id A55AA1C00084 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 14:07:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.15.9]) by mwinf3414.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 4B2421C00081 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 14:06:59 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20090317130659307.4B2421C00081@mwinf3414.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: References: <009001c9a588$7eb02c60$6401a8c0@asus> <004501c9a623$a4bf81d0$6401a8c0@asus> <2ED02F4327204E3C903828F9E18AA72B@AGB> <001e01c9a665$ebeac870$6401a8c0@asus> <00be01c9a66e$c8bfdbc0$0900a8c0@AM> <004a01c9a677$2a8b48a0$6401a8c0@asus> <005101c9a679$df148f50$6401a8c0@asus> <916F3329CAA846A19B450540FCC7E0AB@AGB> In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 13:06:58 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8064.206 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8064.206 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0018_01C9A701.410D5B10" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNSAFE,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C9A701.410D5B10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ok Andy=20 Easily ... that's the problem hihi ..=20 Is there anyone tuned in who could write a short code to say ,select the com= port, time slot and key the com port ? , That way any simple cw tx could=20= be used , as not every one can translate from audio to rf on 500 or 137 ! Thanks=20 Graham ,, From: Andy Talbot=20 Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 7:55 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software Easily, all you need is a five second transmission of carrier at xx:05:25 xx= :20:25 etc But accurate timing to at least one second accuracy is essential, so the PC=20= clock will have to be set continuously. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/3/16 Graham Andy, Is there any way the slots could be filled using a pc ... ? if a small ex= e could be run to make a cw pulse then that would be no problem ? G ..=20 From: Andy Talbot=20 Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 9:36 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software See you just have - got quite a shock until I realised the noise had plumm= eted as well. Any takers for the 5 and 6 minute slots? Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/3/16 Gary - G4WGT Andy, OK, I will insert an attenuator at the antenna socket (that=92s an easy=20= move) & watch how it performs. It is switched at 10dB steps so I will start=20= at 10db of course. Cheers, Gary. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@bla= cksheep.org] On Behalf Of Andy Talbot Sent: 16 March 2009 20:45=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software Doesn't matter which - just total system gain. That S/W works best if t= he noise threshold rides at about 10dB above the baseline, then it allows f= or up to 70 - 80dB of signal peaks. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/3/16 Gary - G4WGT Alan, When you wrote :- my only comment is that you may have too much gain in the system. Are you meaning sound card or receiver gain? Gary. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Alan Melia Sent: 16 March 2009 19:38 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software Hi Gary my only comment is that you may have too much gain in the system= . It is sometimes better to have the noise further down nearer the axis. I am afraid there is a major problem with this kind of beacon, when the fading period is shorter than the sampling interval, so you dont really=20= know what the path is doing. The only reliable points are the peaks, the trou= ghs dont really mean anything without some very sophisticated analysis and probably two spaced receivers. However it does give a snapshot of the ba= nd without taking up too much bandwidth (this was what was required for 5MH= z too). Despite all the data collected very little analysis has actually b= e done on the 5MHz data collected by this program. The one succesfull bit=20= of work was that published in Radcom by Marcis Walden G0IJZ. I used it for=20= some time whilst Andy was testing the Poldhu beacon on 160m and also during t= he 1st two months that ran. I was certainly surprised by the daytime path o= n 160m from here. I have seen the data collected in Canada via Joe Craig V= O1NA and it is difficult to see how to use it. Still if you dont collect the data you will never know!! Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 6:35 PM Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software > Hi Graham, LF, > > > > The original HTML Code for the 2 minute refresh is still inserted into= the > page format, so upload is 30 minute intervals with Syncback & 2 minute > refresh. I have left the refresh in case I revert back to the original > grabber page. I will look at changing it if I continue to use the beac= on > chart upload. > > > > I would like to have feedback from the LF group regarding the page, if= you > check it out periodically, is it useful to you, what are you looking f= or. > > > > You can view the chart on my web site at :- > > > > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html > > > > 73 > > > > Gary - G4WGT. > > > > > > _____ > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham > Sent: 16 March 2009 17:20 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > Hi Gary, > > > > The page seemed to refresh quite often ... are there two settings ? > > > > G .. > > > > From: Gary - G4WGT > > Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:40 AM > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > Hi Graham, LF, > > > > You wrote :- > > >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute > intervals. <<< that could be backed off to 15 mins as the beacon only > sends every 15 ?? > > > > I mentioned in my previous mail to ignore the text on the page as it w= as > originally for grabber 1 for when I upgrade the web site (to a new des= ign & > better navigation etc), also mentioned is that upload is every 30 minu= tes. > > > > If the uploaded chart proves useful or interesting to operators & view= ers > then I will change the text & make it a permanent feature for the > foreseeable future. > > > > BTW :- > > > > For those of you who are not familiar with the chart - > > > > The RED trace is Andy's (G4JNT) beacon signal & the BLACK trace is the noise > level at my QTH. > > > > The Blue & GREEN are not in use & should be ignored on this chart as t= hey > are for the other beacons used when monitoring on the 5MHz allocation. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Gary - G4WGT > > > > > > _____ > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham > Sent: 15 March 2009 22:17 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > Gary.. > > > > That looks good ... 0500 looks best time for a qso .. see you then Sm= ile > emoticon > > > > >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute > intervals. <<< that could be backed off to 15 mins as the beacon only > sends every 15 ?? > > > > the 15 db over the noise in day time is the same at this qth .. look= s like > the big dips round 1900 where just when we where testing .. typical=20= hihi > > > > tnx- G .. > > > > From: Gary - G4WGT > > Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 7:55 PM > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > Subject: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > LF, > > > > I have now got the software, Syncback running correctly (I think). > > > > The purpose of this is to upload the chart from Andy's beacon as recei= ved > here to my web site periodically, ie. every 30 minutes. > > > > I now have a receiver running 24/7 monitoring Andy,s beacon on 503.7KH= z. > > > > You can view the chart on my web site at :- > > > > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html > > > > For the moment ignore the text on the page as it is originally designe= d to > use with the 500KHz grabber when I renew my web site design. If it is=20= a > useful upload I will make it a permanent feature but may have to exten= d the > frequency coverage of grabber 1 so not to overload the PC with operati= ons > which will cause the PC to struggle. > > > > Let me have your comments please. > > > > 73 > > > > Gary - G4WGT. > > > > _____ > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT > Sent: 15 March 2009 16:10 > To: LF -RSGB LF Group > Subject: LF: Syncback software > > > > Hi LF, > > > > If anyone is using Syncback software & can help, please. > > > > I am tying to upload a file to my website who's filename does not chan= ge, > only the file size changes. I tried to do it with Argo-upload but fail= ed so > I downloaded Syncback & still failing. > > > > Syncback gives me the following message :- > > > > ********************************** > > Can connect, but unable to change to destination directory: > > /chart01.bmp:not a directory > > ********************************** > > The Syncback help does not give me the answer. > > > > Any help will be appreciated > > > > Or > > > > Will Argo-Upload do it? > > > > Or > > > > Is there something else to do it? > > > > Thanks in anticipation, > > > > 73, > > > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. > > > > _____ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.13/2001 - Release Date: 03/1= 4/09 > 06:54:00 > > _____ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.15/2003 - Release Date: 03/1= 5/09 > 14:07:00 > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.15/2004 - Release Date: 03/16/09= 07:04:00 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.16/2006 - Release Date: 03/17/09 0= 7:23:00 ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C9A701.410D5B10 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ok Andy
 
Easily ... that's the  problem  h= ihi ..=20
 
Is there anyone tuned in who could write a=20= short=20 code to say ,select the com port,  time slot and  key the com= =20 port ? , That way any simple cw tx could be used , as not every  o= ne=20 can translate from audio to  rf on 500 or 137 !
 
Thanks
 
Graham ,,

Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 7:55 AM
Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software

Easily, all you need is a five second transmission of carrier at xx:05:= 25=20 xx:20:25 etc
But accurate timing to at least one second accuracy is essential, so th= e PC=20 clock will have to be set continuously.

Andy  G4JNT
= www.g4jnt.com


2009/3/16 Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
Andy,
 
Is there any way the  slots could be= filled=20 using a pc ... ? if a small exe could be run to  make a cw  puls= e=20 then that would be no problem ?
 
G ..

Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 9:36 PM
Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback=20 software

See you just have - got quite a shock until I realised the noise had=20 plummeted as well.
Any takers for the 5 and 6 minute slots?

Andy  G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com


2009/3/16 Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk= >

Andy,

 

OK,=20 I will insert an attenuator at the antenna socket (that=92s an easy move= )=20 & watch how it performs. It is switched at 10dB steps so I will star= t at=20 10db of course.

 

Cheers,

 

Gary.

 

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Andy Talbot
Sent: 16 March 2009 20:45=20


To: rsgb_lf_gro= up@blacksheep.org
Subject:= Re: LF: RE: Syncback=20 software

 

Doesn't=20 matter which - just total system gain.  That S/W works best if the=20 noise threshold rides at about 10dB above the baseline,  then it al= lows=20 for up to 70 - 80dB of signal peaks.


Andy  G4JNT
<= A href=3D"http://www.g4jnt.com/" target=3D_blank>www.g4jnt.com

2009/3/16 Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>

Alan,

When you wrote :-

my only comment is that you may have=20= too much gain=20 in the system.

Are you=20 meaning sound card or receiver gain?

Gary.



-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_gro= up@blacksheep.org

[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of=20= Alan=20 Melia
Sent: 16 March 2009 19:38

To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Sub= ject: Re: LF: RE:=20 Syncback software

Hi Gary my only comment is that you may have to= o=20 much gain in the system. It
is sometimes better to have the noise fur= ther=20 down nearer the axis.

I am afraid there is a major problem with t= his=20 kind of beacon, when the
fading period is shorter than the sampling=20 interval, so you dont really know
what the path is doing. The only=20 reliable points are the peaks, the troughs
dont really mean anything=20 without some very sophisticated analysis and
probably two spaced=20 receivers. However it does give a snapshot of the band
without taking= up=20 too much bandwidth (this was what was required for 5MHz
too). Despite= all=20 the data collected very little analysis has actually be
done on the 5= MHz=20 data collected by this program. The one succesfull bit of
work was th= at=20 published in Radcom by Marcis Walden G0IJZ. I used it for some
time=20 whilst Andy was testing the Poldhu beacon on 160m and also during the1st=20 two months that ran. I was certainly surprised by the daytime path=20 on
160m from here. I have seen the data collected in Canada via Joe C= raig=20 VO1NA
and it is difficult to see how to use it.

Still if you d= ont=20 collect the data you will never know!!

Alan=20 G3NYK




----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary -=20 G4WGT" <= g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org><= BR>Sent: Monday, March=20 16, 2009 6:35 PM
Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software


&g= t;=20 Hi Graham, LF,
>
>
>
> The original HTML Code fo= r=20 the 2 minute refresh is still inserted into the
> page format, so=20 upload is 30 minute intervals with Syncback & 2 minute
> refre= sh.=20 I have left the refresh in case I revert back to the original
>=20 grabber page. I will look at changing it if I continue to use the=20 beacon
> chart upload.
>
>
>
> I would lik= e to=20 have feedback from the LF group regarding the page, if you
> check= it=20 out periodically, is it useful to you, what are you looking=20 for.
>
>
>
> You can view the chart on my web si= te=20 at :-
>
>
>
> http://myweb.tiscali= .co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html
>
>
>
>=20 73
>
>
>
> Gary -=20 G4WGT.
>
>
>
>
>
>  =20 _____
>
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of=20 Graham
> Sent: 16 March 2009 17:20
> To: rsgb_lf_group@black= sheep.org
> Subject: Re: LF: RE:=20 Syncback software
>
>
>
> Hi=20 Gary,
>
>
>
> The page seemed to  refresh q= uite=20 often ... are there two settings ?
>
>
>
> G=20 ..
>
>
>
> From: Gary - G4WGT <mailto:g4wgt@tiscali.co= .uk>
>
> Sent: Monday,=20 March 16, 2009 10:40 AM
>
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=
>
> Subject: RE:=20 LF: RE: Syncback software
>
>
>
> Hi Graham,=20 LF,
>
>
>
> You wrote :-
>
>=20 >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2=20 minute
> intervals. <<< that could be backed off to  = ;15=20 mins as the beacon only
> sends every 15=20 ??
>
>
>
> I mentioned in my previous mail to ig= nore=20 the text on the page as it was
> originally for grabber 1 for when= I=20 upgrade the web site (to a new design
&
> better navigation= =20 etc), also mentioned is that upload is every 30=20 minutes.
>
>
>
> If the uploaded chart proves us= eful=20 or interesting to operators & viewers
> then I will change the= =20 text & make it a permanent feature for the
> foreseeable=20 future.
>
>
>
> BTW=20 :-
>
>
>
> For those of you  who are not=20 familiar with the chart -
>
>
>
> The RED trace=20= is=20 Andy's (G4JNT) beacon signal & the BLACK trace is the
noise
&g= t;=20 level at my QTH.
>
>
>
> The Blue & GREEN ar= e=20 not in use & should be ignored on this chart as they
> are for= the=20 other beacons used when monitoring on the 5MHz=20 allocation.
>
>
>
>=20 Cheers,
>
>
>
> Gary -=20 G4WGT
>
>
>
>
>
>  =20 _____
>
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of=20 Graham
> Sent: 15 March 2009 22:17
> To: rsgb_lf_group@black= sheep.org
> Subject: Re: LF: RE:=20 Syncback software
>
>
>
>=20 Gary..
>
>
>
> That looks good  ... 0500 lo= oks=20 best time for a qso .. see you then Smile
>=20 emoticon
>
>
>
> >>>Upload is set at 5=20 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute
> intervals.=20 <<< that could be backed off to  15 mins as the beacon=20 only
> sends every 15 ??
>
>
>
> the  = ;15=20 db over the noise in day time is the  same at this qth ..=20 looks
like
> the big dips round 1900  where just when we w= here=20 testing ..  typical hihi
>
>
>
> tnx- G=20 ..
>
>
>
> From: Gary - G4WGT <mailto:g4wgt@tiscali.co= .uk>
>
> Sent: Sunday,=20 March 15, 2009 7:55 PM
>
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<= /A>
>
> Subject: LF:=20 RE: Syncback software
>
>
>
>=20 LF,
>
>
>
> I have now got the software, Syncbac= k=20 running correctly (I think).
>
>
>
> The purpose= of=20 this is to upload the chart from Andy's beacon as received
> here=20= to=20 my web site periodically, ie. every 30=20 minutes.
>
>
>
> I now have a receiver running 2= 4/7=20 monitoring Andy,s beacon on 503.7KHz.
>
>
>
> Yo= u=20 can view the chart on my web site at :-
>
>
>
>=20= http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html
><= BR>>
>
>=20 For the moment ignore the text on the page as it is originally designed=20 to
> use with the 500KHz grabber when I renew my web site design.=20= If=20 it is a
> useful upload I will make it a permanent feature but may= =20 have to extend
the
> frequency coverage of grabber 1 so not to=20 overload the PC with operations
> which will cause the PC to=20 struggle.
>
>
>
> Let me have your comments=20 please.
>
>
>
> 73
>
>
>
&g= t;=20 Gary - G4WGT.
>
>
>
>   _____
>
&g= t;=20 From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner= -rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary -=20 G4WGT
> Sent: 15 March 2009 16:10
> To: LF -RSGB LF=20 Group
> Subject: LF: Syncback software
>
>
>
= >=20 Hi LF,
>
>
>
> If anyone is using Syncback softw= are=20 & can help, please.
>
>
>
> I am tying to up= load=20 a file to my website who's filename does not change,
> only the fi= le=20 size changes. I tried to do it with Argo-upload but failed
so
>= I=20 downloaded Syncback & still failing.
>
>
>
>= =20 Syncback gives me the following message :-
>
>
>
&g= t;=20 **********************************
>
> Can connect, but unab= le=20 to change to destination directory:
>
> /chart01.bmp:not a=20 directory
>
> **********************************
>
= >=20 The Syncback help does not give me the=20 answer.
>
>
>
> Any help will be=20 appreciated
>
>
>
>=20 Or
>
>
>
> Will Argo-Upload do=20 it?
>
>
>
> Or
>
>
>
> I= s=20 there something else to do it?
>
>
>
> Thanks in= =20 anticipation,
>
>
>
>=20 73,
>
>
>
> Gary - G4WGT -=20 IO83QP.
>
>
>
>   _____
>
>
= >=20 No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> Vers= ion:=20 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.13/2001 - Release Date: 03/14/09
>= ;=20 06:54:00
>
>   _____
>
>
> No virus f= ound=20 in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> Version:=20 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.15/2003 - Release Date: 03/15/09
>= ;=20 14:07:00
>
>


 

=


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A big thankyou to everyone who replied to my recent e-mails on energy sav= ing bulbs.
I sent the message to 3 different lists and received 31 replie= s. The general conclusion seems to be that the only interference to radio li= stening in recent times have been with specific rogue bulbs, not specific br= ands.There was some useful advice on handling the hazards of disposal of bul= bs. Some interesting dialogue on whether these bulbs were as efficient and a= s long life as claimed. Ideas that these bulbs were inappropriate for use wh= ere they were only on for very short periods, but suggestions that recent de= signs were better in all aspects of operation.


So I come to the conclusion that perhaps I will try some but will dev= ise a means of comparing band noise in parts of the spectrum that interst me= .

Then serendipity kicks in. We were on holiday this week some 600 km from=20= home. Go into a charity shop to buy something for =C2=A31. and I am also giv= en 2 free energy saving bulbs from Scottish Hydro Electric. They also decide= that my wife can also have 2 bulbs. Now I have no excuse, I will have to tr= y them when I return.

 

regards

peter

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da03.mx.aol.com (rly-da03.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.77]) by air-da03.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA032-a5d49cf99d48f; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 11:55:23 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da03.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA035-a5d49cf99d48f; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 11:55:01 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LnxL2-0003Hd-Nj for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 16:54:20 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LnxL2-0003HU-3c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 16:54:20 +0100 Received: from mailout10.t-online.de ([194.25.134.21]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LnxL0-0002EW-Gi for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 16:54:20 +0100 Received: from fwd04.aul.t-online.de by mailout10.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 1LnxKx-0002jG-01; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 17:54:15 +0200 Received: from e7010 (Z2YvEsZLwhwJXtptxfDfJuWNt0jcE-I7pmCHchiivlLhU5zJEKpYvSF8gXgzuD9QQc@[84.147.199.15]) by fwd04.aul.t-online.de with smtp id 1LnxKf-0qYXYG0; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 17:53:57 +0200 Message-ID: <00e401c9b086$90695c20$1402a8c0@e7010> From: "Walter und Marianne Staubach" To: Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 17:53:54 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4927.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 X-ID: Z2YvEsZLwhwJXtptxfDfJuWNt0jcE-I7pmCHchiivlLhU5zJEKpYvSF8gXgzuD9QQc X-TOI-MSGID: 3974fc6d-0c69-42a2-831d-21e596795037 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: LF: DI2AG WSPR weekend Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00E1_01C9B097.53B682B0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_00E1_01C9B097.53B682B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear All on MF, DI2AG is still running on 505.090KHz with 0.5W ERP in WSPR. Until now I got a lot of reports from DJ6LB 11 G3XVL 753 DJ6YD 363 G0HNW 993 G0KTN 973 GM4ISM 1220 SQ7MPJ 634 G3AQC 863 G4FDD 971 DD7PC 98 F4DTL 639 Many thanks to all reporters. Please excuse if I forgot one. DI2AG will be t= ransmitting with 33% duty cycle until tomorrow morning 7:00 UTC. 73 Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF =20 ------=_NextPart_000_00E1_01C9B097.53B682B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear All on MF,
       DI2AG=20= is still=20 running on 505.090KHz with 0.5W ERP in WSPR.
Until now I got a lot of reports from <c= all,=20 distance Km>
DJ6LB      =20 11
G3XVL     753
DJ6YD    363
G0HNW   993
G0KTN    973
GM4ISM 1220
SQ7MPJ   634
G3AQC    863
G4FDD    971
DD7PC      9= 8
F4DTL     =20 639
 
Many thanks to all reporters. Please excuse= if I=20 forgot one. DI2AG will be transmitting with 33% duty cycle until tomorr= ow=20 morning 7:00 UTC.
73   Walter   DI2AG /&n= bsp;=20 DJ2LF
 
------=_NextPart_000_00E1_01C9B097.53B682B0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md03.mx.aol.com (rly-md03.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.141]) by air-md02.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMD023-8f749c3424f1ed; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 03:14:28 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md03.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD037-8f749c3424f1ed; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 03:14:24 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LkYvL-0007Td-SD for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 07:13:47 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LkYvL-0007TU-Dz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 07:13:47 +0000 Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.198.250]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LkYvJ-0006Pc-EJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 07:13:47 +0000 Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id l33so1028522rvb.4 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 00:13:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=AM+bUTo6yOjqmvT3NVQLngJ+tgpOUkp2c0fDdbYb7/c=; b=vDWJk1OIqdUp+GypoVkzdQs9i2eUd/zhhZAthHCZG2sMHHkO9t3kwNG1J+BRTTcK7k nuw4RtJ6FM1Apj5UQnQWI7YQd12QgCgbFpfy4BmPCgZ4Pxuwk3GWYtTzNt5IX9EaFVim QTpIwUtKGSag85GvoWqBfPPYHI4+bGRWMzgNs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=qi3Nxjm4K/fOUqvdyHbNtNfLw6ZXybtmpSMBLWW3n19RXTjI/Bu22u9yv44FlNMOaZ AIu2sKe8uyRQ1paU679DHLNQTwbprsBL1IXdThPTDsdc9Cb7EFpG6pldEEuIY1Yi08gX gktTfoD7GKKk+zzuvg4P1GUOZeEvC+ZUcxqx8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.114.150.1 with SMTP id x1mr2259640wad.93.1237533223067; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 00:13:43 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 07:13:42 +0000 Message-ID: <5931f8db0903200013t5985259dr1483addef93a27c0@mail.gmail.com> From: Harry Woodhouse To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 1.3 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_00_10=0.642,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_SHORT_LENGTH=0.629 Subject: LF: 137 KHz reports please Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00163645873428bf52046587a8d7 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m240.1 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : fail X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --00163645873428bf52046587a8d7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If I manage to get my temporary mast up in the wind, I hope to transmit CQ tomorrow, Saturday 21st March with QRSS3 on 137.68KHz. --00163645873428bf52046587a8d7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If I manage to get my temporary mast up in the wind, I hope to transmit CQ tomorrow, Saturday 21st March with QRSS3 on 137.68KHz.

--00163645873428bf52046587a8d7-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc07.mx.aol.com (rly-dc07.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.36]) by air-dc08.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDC082-b3449c29e517c; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 15:35:05 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc07.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC078-b3449c29e517c; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 15:34:43 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LkO09-0000qj-EM for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 19:34:01 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LkO09-0000qa-09 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 19:34:01 +0000 Received: from blu0-omc1-s29.blu0.hotmail.com ([65.55.116.40]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LkO06-0000Bv-PO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 19:34:00 +0000 Received: from BLU146-W12 ([65.55.116.8]) by blu0-omc1-s29.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 19 Mar 2009 12:33:52 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [196.40.0.241] From: Laurence BY3A-KL1X China To: Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 11:33:52 -0800 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <49C16D13.6050204@charter.net> References: <49C16D13.6050204@charter.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Mar 2009 19:33:52.0837 (UTC) FILETIME=[A2B40750:01C9A8C9] X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_c322e2e0-5b9f-4a77-97e2-12893859abf8_" Subject: RE: LF: Ti3 wspr 507.00 tonight and qrss 3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_c322e2e0-5b9f-4a77-97e2-12893859abf8_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ill take another look at the data thanks for coming on... =20 > Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 17:52:19 -0400 > From: w1tag@charter.net > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: Ti3 wspr 507.00 tonight and qrss 3 >=20 > L, >=20 > I'll try to get an hour or two in, but probably not until 0100 UTC. Will=20 > shoot for 1500 Hz =3D 508.500. >=20 > John,W1TAG >=20 > Laurence BY3A-KL1X China wrote: > >=20 > > Will be "listening" 507 dial wspr and qrss 3 slow 507.000 -507.170=20 > > tonight from my dusk till dawn. > >=20 > > nominations for modes and freqs near 505 et al for tomorrow welcomed. > >=20 > >=20 > > Laurence ti3/ kl 1 x > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Windows Live=99 Groups: Create an online spot for your favorite groups t= o=20 > > meet. Check it out.=20 > > > >=20 > >=20 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >=20 > >=20 > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 > > Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.18/2009 - Release Date: 03/18/= 09 07:17:00 > >=20 >=20 _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live=99 Groups: Create an online spot for your favorite groups to me= et. http://windowslive.com/online/groups?ocid=3DTXT_TAGLM_WL_groups_032009=3D --_c322e2e0-5b9f-4a77-97e2-12893859abf8_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ill take another look at the data thanks for coming on..= .
 
> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 17:52:19 -0400
> From: w1ta= g@charter.net
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: Re:=20= LF: Ti3 wspr 507.00 tonight and qrss 3
>
> L,
>
>=20= I'll try to get an hour or two in, but probably not until 0100 UTC. Will > shoot for 1500 Hz =3D 508.500.
>
> John,W1TAG
> > Laurence BY3A-KL1X China wrote:
> >
> > Will be "li= stening" 507 dial wspr and qrss 3 slow 507.000 -507.170
> > tonigh= t from my dusk till dawn.
> >
> > nominations for modes a= nd freqs near 505 et al for tomorrow welcomed.
> >
> > > > Laurence ti3/ kl 1 x
> >
> >
> > > >
> > --------------------------------------------------= ----------------------
> > Windows Live=99 Groups: Create an online= spot for your favorite groups to
> > meet. Check it out.
>= > <http://windowslive.com/online/groups?ocid=3DTXT_TAGLM_WL_groups_03= 2009>
> >
> >
> > --------------------------= ----------------------------------------------
> >
> > > > No virus found in this incoming message.
> > Checked by= AVG - www.avg.com
> > Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.1= 8/2009 - Release Date: 03/18/09 07:17:00
> >
>

Windows Live=99 Groups: Create an online spot for your favorite groups to= meet. Check it out. =3D --_c322e2e0-5b9f-4a77-97e2-12893859abf8_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de06.mx.aol.com (rly-de06.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.142]) by air-de02.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDE022-4df49b2cdb458; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 14:41:01 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de06.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE062-4df49b2cdb458; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 14:40:39 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lg2NB-0000As-Sy for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 19:39:49 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lg2NB-0000Aj-9Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 19:39:49 +0000 Received: from vms173001pub.verizon.net ([206.46.173.1]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lg2N5-0006vH-V3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 19:39:49 +0000 Received: from DR2 ([71.184.212.10]) by vms173001.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KG500I00ILMFDGM@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 13:39:23 -0600 (CST) Message-id: <83E85DB621094E32B6E9B4B1D425737F@DR2> From: "dave.riley3" To: "Carl" , "James M. Walker" , , Cc: "600MRG" References: <000e01c99f02$f6f67df0$41b2fea9@W1KW> <2A3326C8358D483CB97E5776EA0833A7@DR2> <189E2993E39D4765841B1F501C87C42D@KITTYMA123> <447FEB36210040C0A6AF424BF72F21C2@ESHOP1> <4EE82775CC244792B0AD72E53FECF3C1@KITTYMA123> Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2009 14:39:21 -0500 MIME-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36 Subject: LF: Re: 600MRG> Re: Re: Looking for HF to LF-Transverter, ... ? Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=response Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 So take the idea and prototype and roll your own, to perfection even... This was an example of off the shelf plug and play... No shoddy quality was meant or implied... The final version is ALL SMA, cheaper by the dozen on e-bay>> http://cgi.ebay.com/Qty-10-SMA-male-to-SMA-male-6-inch-Cables_W0QQitemZ120381823826QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item120381823826&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50 Still having fun @ ham radio after 55 years of it + SWL.. Ain't it something?? Can't solder or see much any more, but plug and play will get me to the wheelchair... Have a Happy Home Brew... TNX from Dave @ WD2XSH/17 WN1AAI ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carl" To: "James M. Walker" ; "dave.riley3" ; ; Cc: "600MRG" Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 2:20 PM Subject: Re: 600MRG> Re: Re: Looking for HF to LF-Transverter, ... ? > Bored, no. But as someone who has spent decades in RF labs Im a bit > experienced with connector problems causing grief. > > If you have something worthwhile to say try and create a useful statement > instead of whining. > > Carl. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "James M. Walker" > To: "Carl" ; "dave.riley3" ; > ; > Cc: "600MRG" > Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 12:59 PM > Subject: Re: 600MRG> Re: Re: Looking for HF to LF-Transverter, ... ? > > >> Are you bored or what? This is just one example of an answer to the >> initial >> question. Lighten up with this stuff. >> Jim >> WB2FCN/WD2XSH-22 >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Carl" >> To: "dave.riley3" ; >> ; >> Cc: "600MRG" >> Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 7:59 AM >> Subject: Re: 600MRG> Re: Re: Looking for HF to LF-Transverter, ... ? >> >> >>> WOW, there are 19 RF connections and only the SMA are really long term >>> reliable! >>> >>> Carl >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "dave.riley3" >>> To: ; >>> Cc: "600MRG" >>> Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 6:32 AM >>> Subject: 600MRG> Re: Re: Looking for HF to LF-Transverter, ... ? >>> >>> >>>> Hi Marco, >>>> >>>> Indeed the little transverter did well 15 years ago on LowFer >>>> frequencies with some help from external L/C selective circuits... >>>> I used it with the TS930 and believe that it is still running well... >>>> >>>> Now life is easier and you can plug and play with some off the shelf >>>> items or from e-bay. >>>> >>>> Here is complete transverter that works: >>>> >>>> http://www.radiocom.net/600M/TxVerter2.jpg >>>> >>>> Or only use one side for TX or RX >>>> >>>> http://www.radiocom.net/600M/TXconverter.jpg >>>> >>>> Good luck with this fun project. It is the one I use now... >>>> >>>> TNX >>>> >>>> Dave - AA1A >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Holger 'Geri', DK8KW" >>>> To: >>>> Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 3:59 AM >>>> Subject: LF: Re: Looking for HF to LF-Transverter, ... ? >>>> >>>> >>>>> Marco, >>>>> >>>>> have a look here: >>>>> >>>>> http://www.radiocom.net/txvr.jpg >>>>> >>>>> I haven't tried it myself but it looks simple enough to give it a try. >>>>> >>>>> 73 >>>>> >>>>> Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO (currently on 440.015 kHz, tnx for the reception >>>>> reports) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Scholz, Marco " >>>>> To: >>>>> Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 9:55 PM >>>>> Subject: LF: Looking for HF to LF-Transverter, ... ? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Dear LF-Group, >>>>> sorry for bandwidth, i looking for some sort of of mixer/transverter >>>>> to >>>>> use a shortwave transceiver on 137KHz for WSPR. Can be in experimental >>>>> stage, but i need something to start. To build something from scratch >>>>> is >>>>> a bit a challenge for me, so i thought i ask around. Maybe someone has >>>>> to sell some parts? >>>>> If yes, please send me a mail to dd7pc@gmx.de >>>>> >>>>> Many thanks, vy73 >>>>> Marco >>>>> DD7PC >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *********** The Primary 600MRG E-mail List Website is: ********** >>>> ******************* http://www.500kc.com/ *********************** >>>> ******* Secondary is: http://www.mines.uidaho.edu/~SHMRG/ ******* >>>> *** Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to this address: **** >>>> ************** majordomo@piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu ************** >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *********** The Primary 600MRG E-mail List Website is: ********** >>> ******************* http://www.500kc.com/ *********************** >>> ******* Secondary is: http://www.mines.uidaho.edu/~SHMRG/ ******* >>> *** Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to this address: **** >>> ************** majordomo@piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu ************** >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > > > *********** The Primary 600MRG E-mail List Website is: ********** > ******************* http://www.500kc.com/ *********************** > ******* Secondary is: http://www.mines.uidaho.edu/~SHMRG/ ******* > *** Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to this address: **** > ************** majordomo@piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu ************** > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf08.mx.aol.com (rly-mf08.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.178]) by air-mf01.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMF011-97449cf3a4231a; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 05:07:25 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf08.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF082-97449cf3a4231a; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 05:07:15 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lnqy2-0000NP-E5 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 10:06:10 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lnqy2-0000NG-3Q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 10:06:10 +0100 Received: from dx.ru ([80.68.4.13]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lnqxz-0008Uz-HI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 10:06:10 +0100 Received: from [85.26.183.18] (helo=UR5IBG) by dx.ru with esmtpa auth=ed@dx.ru id 1Lnqxt-000ClV-7y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 13:06:01 +0400 Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 13:05:28 +0400 From: Ed RU6LA X-Mailer: The Bat! (v4.0.7) Professional Organization: Ed Lesnichy X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1906166367.20090329130528@dx.ru> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 1.3 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.332 Subject: LF: SO5AS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear LF enthusiasts! SO5AS in DFCW10 O on 695-705 now Some traces abt 700-710 73! Ed RU6LA 136.73.ru From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df11.mx.aol.com (rly-df11.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.24]) by air-df08.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDF081-58d49c532ae130; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 14:32:29 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df11.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF116-58d49c532ae130; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 14:32:16 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ll5yw-0007ez-Oi for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 18:31:42 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ll5yw-0007eq-9R for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 18:31:42 +0000 Received: from mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.49]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ll5yv-0004xa-GT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 18:31:42 +0000 Received: from aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20090321183136.JSCY7670.mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 18:31:36 +0000 Received: from [192.168.2.33] (really [82.22.242.113]) by aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vG.2.02.00.01 201-2161-120-102-20060912) with ESMTP id <20090321183132.ICYT2093.aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@[192.168.2.33]> for ; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 18:31:32 +0000 From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 18:30:50 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <49C5325A.22986.1014C1A@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=9YlaCzn6_68A:10 a=mnWSVFK04axs9LhHt9QA:9 a=AzK11ZI3D-3Qy0GRY58Hy0GCdo4A:4 a=oltX7JrCFroA:10 a=gmBXsakOPyV2O1YJ9SEA:9 a=MdMqCQolhZec9jNJ9i0A:7 a=wvUPgo-O_qWxDqAi5O86zSlTwtEA:4 a=XF7b4UCPwd8A:10 a=eKaowXAGgIVeDst4p04A:9 a=vjLrL10YEYB-KPBeeTuu50KadQ8A:4 a=bC4pTEGzVWIA:10 a=KQqxNPgzF0kA:10 a=am5SO3mGNG2t3aKa:18 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Content-type: Multipart/Mixed; boundary=Message-Boundary-13112 Subject: LF: More 136kHz activity X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Message-Boundary-13112 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Content-Description: Mail message body A busy day today on 136kHz. In addition to my earlier report is PA3CPM whose QRSS3 was audible. I also managed to work OE5ODL (952km) who finally popped out of the noise at 1715UTC. We exchanged 'M' reports (my 26th country 2-way on 136kHz) before local QRM shut the band down. OE has been on my 'most wanted' list for several years. Attached is the clearest part of his transmission. Mike, G3XDV ========== --Message-Boundary-13112 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Description: Attachment information. The following section of this message contains a file attachment prepared for transmission using the Internet MIME message format. If you are using Pegasus Mail, or any other MIME-compliant system, you should be able to save it or view it from within your mailer. If you cannot, please ask your system administrator for assistance. ---- File information ----------- File: OE5ODL-21mar2009.jpg Date: 21 Mar 2009, 18:23 Size: 7231 bytes. 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rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 08:15:32 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LjUSS-0001HC-3P for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 08:15:32 +0000 Received: from smtp5-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.5]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LjUSP-0000P8-Fk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 08:15:32 +0000 Received: from smtp5-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp5-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id E20D6D4814B for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 09:15:26 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp5-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id D047DD48074 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 09:15:23 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <49BF5C1C.30108@online.fr> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 09:15:24 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: [137 kHz] LF T/A , XGJ , XKO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello LF , Very good copy WD2XGJ and WD2XKO last night . Thank you Warren and Dex for beaconning 73 qro Jean-Pierre F1AFJ http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da02.mx.aol.com (rly-da02.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.76]) by air-da01.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA013-a5649ca3a3a2e; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 10:06:21 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da02.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA026-a5649ca3a3a2e; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 10:05:48 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LmTjD-0008ES-ID for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 14:05:11 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LmTjD-0008EJ-3o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 14:05:11 +0000 Received: from mailout06.t-online.de ([194.25.134.19]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LmTjB-0006nN-6V for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 14:05:11 +0000 Received: from fwd06.aul.t-online.de by mailout06.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 1LmTj6-0006KL-05; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:05:04 +0100 Received: from [192.168.2.22] (SmG1STZG8hS2MMJAxNZD4k6KdDJbts2AmIcJPxpXIJV9AQff2UKK1Zv0yoWLZ89QqZ@[93.196.61.110]) by fwd06.t-online.de with esmtp id 1LmTgt-2JSr0S0; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:02:47 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de References: In-Reply-To: To: X-Mailer: T-Online eMail 6.07.0001 Date: 25 Mar 2009 14:02 GMT Message-ID: <1LmTgt-2JSr0S0@fwd06.t-online.de> X-ID: SmG1STZG8hS2MMJAxNZD4k6KdDJbts2AmIcJPxpXIJV9AQff2UKK1Zv0yoWLZ89QqZ X-TOI-MSGID: 3ddeee6c-74d6-4194-bae5-391fb69e66e8 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: TDA2003, TDA2030 for PA? Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative; Boundary="__Next_1237989744_Part49__" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_EXPERIENCE,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --__Next_1237989744_Part49__ Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit Dear Petr, I have just built an LF amplifier using a TBA810S to drive my antenna metering bridge. Output has been 3,5 watts at 136 kHz and 15 volts supply voltage. 500 kHz was not on the table at that time, therefore no experiences on that band. In general one has to experiment with the capacitors setting the upper frequency response to make them as low in capacity as feasible. I have also bought some other AF ICs to follow these ideas but have never taken the time to try them, sri. OK? 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB "Petr Malý" schrieb: Hi all, My intention is to build a small transmitter up to some 10W for 136 and 505 kHz, this time not the D class, but B or AB class. I think of employing AF amplifiers such as TDA2003, TDA2030, or similar. Of course, mainly 505 kHz is rather out of range so that nothing is guaranteed. This is why I ask before experimenting. Did anybody try to use these for 136/505 kHz? Tks, 73, Petr, OK!FIG http://ok1fig.nagano.cz --__Next_1237989744_Part49__ Content-Type: Text/HTML; Charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit T-Online eMail Dear Petr,

I have just built an LF amplifier using a TBA810S to drive my antenna metering bridge. Output has been 3,5 watts at 136 kHz and 15 volts supply voltage. 500 kHz was not on the table at that time, therefore no experiences on that band.

In general one has to experiment with the capacitors setting the upper frequency response to make them as low in capacity as feasible.

I have also bought some other AF ICs to follow these ideas but have never taken the time to try them, sri.

OK?

73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB


  "Petr Malý" <p.maly@gmc.net> schrieb:
Hi all,
 
My intention is to build a small transmitter up to some 10W for 136 and 505 kHz, this time not the D class, but B or AB class.
I think of employing AF amplifiers such as TDA2003, TDA2030, or similar. Of course, mainly 505 kHz is rather out of range so that nothing is guaranteed. This is why I ask before experimenting.
Did anybody try to use these for 136/505 kHz?
 
Tks, 73, Petr, OK!FIG
 
 
 
--__Next_1237989744_Part49__-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc06.mx.aol.com (rly-dc06.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.35]) by air-dc10.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDC102-b2549aa633b2df; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 05:28:19 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc06.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC061-b2549aa633b2df; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 05:28:15 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lditp-0000Jv-P4 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 10:27:57 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lditp-0000Jm-EE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 10:27:57 +0000 Received: from mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.47]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ldito-0005Di-Ji for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 10:27:57 +0000 Received: from aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20090301102750.ZHPW2989.mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com>; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 10:27:50 +0000 Received: from [192.168.2.33] (really [82.22.242.113]) by aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vG.2.02.00.01 201-2161-120-102-20060912) with ESMTP id <20090301102750.UGLZ2093.aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@[192.168.2.33]>; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 10:27:50 +0000 From: "Mike Dennison" To: "Scholz, Marco " , rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 10:27:44 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <49AA6320.23188.3FA4D8@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> In-reply-to: References: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-description: Mail message body X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=9YlaCzn6_68A:10 a=kyJbQFBkL44RCUL5zY0A:9 a=x9SJddiZkUliZcXxhNIWuiCLY4YA:4 a=vNGxQsTWjH8A:10 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: QRV 137.700 KHz Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Marco, I saw you on DF6NM's grabber yesterday calling me on QRSS3, and saw DK4U working you this morning (1/3), but I cannot see a trace of your signal here. Please let me know if you want to try a QRSS10 test. Mike, G3XDV ========== > I calling CQ the next 2 hours on +/- 137.700Khz in QRSS3 (every > 10min.). Later from 10-11pm UTC in QRSS60 on +/- 137.778KHz. Any > report is very welcome. I will be QRV also tomorrow morning. > > vy73 > Marco > DD7PC > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc10.mx.aol.com (rly-dc10.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.39]) by air-dc01.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDC014-b4649b823375a; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 16:46:51 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc10.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC102-b4649b823375a; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 16:46:49 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LhVJM-0003Zo-OX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 20:45:56 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LhVJM-0003Zf-Dh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 20:45:56 +0000 Received: from mail-bw0-f164.google.com ([209.85.218.164]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LhVJK-0001vg-LG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 20:45:56 +0000 Received: by bwz8 with SMTP id 8so179966bwz.4 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 13:45:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=PbrhtkhnjpTh7gf1mzOKQq6ha40jHhlkuLNGHVcpYgY=; b=nWEr6+0CMz3wNkyxGqN/URDr9Dn7nu8XpVK3unQi6+LcIKVimj3KzheKLncX2XZrEK k5Deyg95CYXaD5XtxM5oYJJ15kMmXRtXRWGKBi7V+WolySt6LAu8n7TaDf3qKfVQ6WWP YugBYDMdZ73Fna//jtQJ+XYVU3SYe69QU4BPU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=WMPpwzbT/U8HQO1WBpjkDhpkz747Pry6jgAzaGXHDmp65hYvcs7QiKCL9TwSD+qD1U sXi6mfXo38H1HNY6dac0i01c0TByCVh+DGa9LF9haLx4cUceo51p/y3ihY084zcd95AZ Fmr0+lbxGuL9p37qshEHBrrlQYakJ/+fSMDdw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.109.148 with SMTP id j20mr6746930fap.43.1236804347933; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 13:45:47 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 20:45:47 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_SHORT_LENGTH=0.629 Subject: LF: Test Only Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5b54fd0b62c0464ddf3d4 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m254.2 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : fail X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --001636c5b54fd0b62c0464ddf3d4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just testing Googlemail may be playing-up --001636c5b54fd0b62c0464ddf3d4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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--001636c5b54fd0b62c0464ddf3d4-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd07.mx.aol.com (rly-dd07.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.154]) by air-dd05.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDD052-b8e49b2592a2f0; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 06:23:31 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd07.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD078-b8e49b2592a2f0; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 06:23:24 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LfucL-00030n-HX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 11:22:57 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LfucK-00030e-Vd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 11:22:56 +0000 Received: from cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.43]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LfucH-0004rl-Uf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 11:22:56 +0000 Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (smtpshost01.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.74]) by cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B6087B8043 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 12:22:46 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF10631E704 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 12:22:45 +0100 (CET) Received: from webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.242.4]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id D376C31E703 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 12:22:45 +0100 (CET) Received: by webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 643095D64; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 12:22:46 +0100 (CET) Received: from 212.94-200-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (212.94-200-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [80.200.94.212]) by webmail4.kuleuven.be (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 12:22:46 +0100 Message-ID: <20090307122246.s1brm6bta0yswk0s@webmail4.kuleuven.be> Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2009 12:22:46 +0100 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <1DF611251F48450DB34200591E4F2D0D@radiorummet> In-Reply-To: <1DF611251F48450DB34200591E4F2D0D@radiorummet> MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 80.200.94.212 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: DI2AG daytime Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=_2drwrav5ix34" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --=_2drwrav5ix34 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Weak daytime copy of DI2AG in JO20ix (481km). 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My E-mail sent itself when I pressed return. Does it always do this? I was trying to add that gales are forecast for 28th March, so I may not be able to erect mast. If I cannot transmit, I will put a message on here about 09.00 GMT. Regards, Harry G3MFW --00163649a73d638397046616687a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sorry,=A0 I'm still struggling with the internet! My E-mail sent itself=20= when I pressed return. Does it always do this? I was trying to add that gale= s are forecast for 28th March, so I may not be able to erect mast. If I cann= ot transmit, I will put a message on here about 09.00 GMT. Regards, Harry G3= MFW
--00163649a73d638397046616687a-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg05.mx.aol.com (rly-dg05.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.89]) by air-dg04.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDG043-5ca49c2d9cb33a; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 19:48:36 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg05.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG057-5ca49c2d9cb33a; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 19:48:29 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LkRxf-0003K3-OS for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 23:47:43 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LkRxf-0003Ju-2u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 23:47:43 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.151] helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LkRxd-00015D-6e for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 23:47:43 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3538.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id B76BB1C00082 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 00:47:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.19.47]) by mwinf3538.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 60C921C00081 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 00:47:25 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20090319234725396.60C921C00081@mwinf3538.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <49DDD88A06BE43DBA2F7802B96135671@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <007501c9a883$81d23930$6401a8c0@asus> In-Reply-To: <007501c9a883$81d23930$6401a8c0@asus> Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 23:47:24 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8064.206 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8064.206 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 503.700KHz Beacon G0NBD testing in the green slot Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0099_01C9A8ED.0D9899F0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0099_01C9A8ED.0D9899F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just testing in the green slot , 5 second pulse at 6 mins - 25 seconds=20 qrt expected 0030 hrs gmt / poss 0045=20 Tnx G ..=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0099_01C9A8ED.0D9899F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Just testing in the  green slot , 5=20 second  pulse at 6 mins - 25 seconds
 
qrt expected  0030 hrs gmt / poss = ; 0045=20
 
Tnx G ..

 
<= /DIV> ------=_NextPart_000_0099_01C9A8ED.0D9899F0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md08.mx.aol.com (rly-md08.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.146]) by air-md01.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD013-91a49ce0202326; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 06:55:19 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md08.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD082-91a49ce0202326; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 06:55:00 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LnWB7-0004cN-VO for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 10:54:17 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LnWB7-0004cE-Ja for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 10:54:17 +0000 Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com ([209.85.146.176]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LnWB5-0007eS-NG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 10:54:17 +0000 Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id l24so809520waf.4 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 03:54:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=lvWeQBBV5yNCEJoVGLHnI9POBJ2HmB5QqBUsGL3kLLE=; b=aQI1Xw/pDLaTnWYNmRGr7T3YexIBtv2o9yv2UO5fhMtAU/KULjhWJ9kJE71Tcp5CUo WAcFOcHKLTIehrPfeaXULiIvKA98XeTIf5lkbQ3h4x9VN1SOLjjmZV1TCxldw7ieX8oQ WrraVWECZkxJ6IXmRMWCrdt3QnmArN3mHvjV8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=cnZ2yTSrez7Ba1MhXFT61VGQhsEc7oQ0cyn4ezWs+kjEyrxoPP3vW0YaVhwm6pM/4j ZTh3dtYo1MqWNJEWsbD8ljOxxgsx5AwfH5eulGIs1hw9V2hZPn0Kx7hpPnESUu5M9qkC DthFdc058cQ917v0nmzy1tgdfOK2DpAy5dpsU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.114.125.15 with SMTP id x15mr2092090wac.217.1238237653373; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 03:54:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <200903281104270721.54188600@smtp.wanadoo.fr> References: <200903281104270721.54188600@smtp.wanadoo.fr> Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 10:54:13 +0000 Message-ID: <5931f8db0903280354x1167877k42ddff937450c6b7@mail.gmail.com> From: Harry Woodhouse To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: 137: 'MFW' 20dB SNR, '?E5ODL' 15dB SNR Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636457d9e7a215204662babe7 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d260.1 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --001636457d9e7a215204662babe7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit John, many thanks, Terrible gales today, could not erect mast, reduced power. regards, Harry, G3MFW On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 10:04 AM, John RABSON wrote: > At 1000z > > 73 F5VLF > > > > > --001636457d9e7a215204662babe7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable John, many thanks, Terrible gales today, could not erect mast, reduced power= . regards, Harry, G3MFW

On Sat, Mar 28, 20= 09 at 10:04 AM, John RABSON <john.rabson@wanadoo.fr> wrote:
At 1000z

73 F5VLF





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boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00C0_01C99AB6.930B5A90" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.9 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_50_60, HTML_MESSAGE,LINES_OF_YELLING,LINES_OF_YELLING_2 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_00C0_01C99AB6.930B5A90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable QSL SURE WALTER VIA E-MAIL 090302 0154 7 -24 1.1 0.505090 DI2AG JN59 30 =20 090302 0200 6 -24 1.0 0.505089 DI2AG JN59 30 =20 These were best two plus lots of remnants but no decodes... TNX from Dave @ AA1A ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Walter und Marianne Staubach=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 12:17 PM Subject: LF: WSPR on 600m Dear All on MF, DI2AG will transmit WSPR tonight. Beginning 18UTC, ending 7UTC.=20 Dial frequency 503.6KHz, beacon on 505.090KHz. Power 1W ERP. Reports welco= me. Please report on WSPRnet.org or this reflector. 73 Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF ------=_NextPart_000_00C0_01C99AB6.930B5A90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
QSL SURE WALTER VIA E-MAIL
 
 
090302 0154   7 -24  1.1 &nb= sp;=20 0.505090  DI2AG JN59=20 30          
090302=20 0200   6 -24  1.0   0.505089  DI2AG JN59=20 30   
 
 
These were best two plus lots of remnants but no= =20 decodes...
 
TNX from Dave @ AA1A
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 12:17=20 PM
Subject: LF: WSPR on 600m

Dear All on MF,
       = ; DI2AG=20 will transmit WSPR tonight. Beginning 18UTC, ending 7UTC.
Dial frequency 503.6KHz, beacon on 505.09= 0KHz.=20 Power 1W ERP. Reports welcome. Please report on WSPRnet.org or this=20 reflector.
 
73  Walter  DI2AG / DJ2LF
 
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_00C0_01C99AB6.930B5A90-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (rly-ma08.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.52]) by air-ma01.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMA012-8c249bff06616b; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 14:48:29 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA084-8c249bff06616b; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 14:48:08 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LjeKO-0005WF-JS for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 18:47:52 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LjeKO-0005W6-4d for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 18:47:52 +0000 Received: from smtp2-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.2]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LjeKL-0004ND-OJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 18:47:52 +0000 Received: from smtp2-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp2-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B0D34B012C for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 19:47:46 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp2-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ED5B4B01B8 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 19:47:44 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <49BFF04F.9000401@online.fr> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 19:47:43 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <200903171918350875.1D3716BA@smtp.wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <200903171918350875.1D3716BA@smtp.wanadoo.fr> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: F1AFJ 15dB over QRN+LX on 137 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello John, Thank you for the report , I carry out just some tests to validate my=20 concept of antenna! Warren, I transmits on 137705 in QRSS3 with 300W, I will hold you with=20 the current when I am ready to try the transtlantique one. 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj John RABSON a =E9crit : > At 1811z > > John Rabson=20 > F5VLF > 58800 Cervon > France > JN17vg > > > > > > > =20 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf05.mx.aol.com (rly-mf05.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.175]) by air-mf05.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMF051-95c49afd2b38f; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 08:25:23 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf05.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF052-95c49afd2b38f; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 08:25:09 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LfDZR-0003KH-0V for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 13:25:05 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LfDZQ-0003K8-Kb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 13:25:04 +0000 Received: from mail-qy0-f103.google.com ([209.85.221.103]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LfDZP-0007DL-U1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 13:25:04 +0000 Received: by qyk1 with SMTP id 1so65785qyk.30 for ; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 05:24:57 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=JajQr/dcptOiYoBIPxucVJbWDHK20o6Z91wdMWWp6b0=; b=aqtQa2GmT48GXzeG+h8678nU1IslJlWKNaIfJAMBvyi3rcyMfGUidtNWgWcsED73/C zGiPNVH01M4QEXX30DMytkwJASU4jPEWtS6GG/Tf7SckZ7nIUw0WhPwF2NtUSCT3T8Xx 7VyZx593Wbt6sTH4giJI2JXuWAk2i9pnuI484= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Aj1T3IqInLx/+ve69p+t/g6dQbJAzQoVBXW7buxOW7MZrdgTXdCV/L3LoKDC6ODePC pwlBqpJiXrVPoR+9X8NR+RzPHaufwx/ufmAgjJXxfV4kn4vzUpInDf02JsJIsL6yWlzl 0sNeC4iFFzbrspd8zyYDNMxXglVbnEScQTWMw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.28.129 with SMTP id m1mr1730705qac.369.1236259497043; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 05:24:57 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 08:24:57 -0500 Message-ID: <57a24ca70903050524v4f163b2ahdc0459ac8d6bb121@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: Re: LF: XGJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d301.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Lubos, Thank you for the report! XGJ will be off tonight. --=20 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 2009/3/5 Lubos OK2BVG : > Hello Warren, LF! > Band was very noisy, I saw some traces of XGJ only. > > Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS > > ________________________________ > St=E1hn=ECte si zcela nov=FD Messenger 2009! Klikni zde! From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (rly-dd04.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.151]) by air-dd02.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDD022-b7449b1841e4a; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 15:14:45 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD046-b7449b1841e4a; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 15:14:24 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LfgQQ-0000dj-OH for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 20:13:42 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LfgQQ-0000da-6W for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 20:13:42 +0000 Received: from mail-fx0-f174.google.com ([209.85.220.174]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LfgQO-000577-Lh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 20:13:42 +0000 Received: by fxm22 with SMTP id 22so604379fxm.4 for ; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 12:13:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ddwRGYeYVi4d2psu5zlatd3jytnf/vbu8aG0uLAQj8U=; b=Xa62K+0AQg2YvFCiq5n3fTSrxmZ+D0ABhIC635fExDfpiz8rKVFxsofz3zXR+Uhp+i 0wSO81+QmcgiUQ+nkN7UNXbWx/0JeejXQJTwXTMQ0I8tlIAxxh862AiKWZ0y/poZIO1t 7sCh7L2H4BrTLhLnq964tkRioQNTVWsnhmQB0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=rXcBAvFkoVYdnLbDAdReCDzwkNjeFd7VdEbmp6/kiqSEwbiZBEpOJnFznkFfAqIHCN 05oIpcavvjtWPuF/pdotSmgwPOIsSvU/jNcddGH3rlWT1jIGdMVRwHqw6BqfjeZoiCaw hDhvCJCel0YGZBE5Xh1H8P24jz841AhETbJB8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.119.5 with SMTP id x5mr2385583faq.40.1236370412991; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 12:13:32 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <0566EF6DE20B4249A3E74859BF9BA2C6@AGB> <9C03FBF153AB478A9B0DBC5580CF20D2@AGB> Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 20:13:32 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Multi-function beacon Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5a8d14713e9046478ebb8 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d278.1 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --001636c5a8d14713e9046478ebb8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Not strictly - Look at it in th efreqeuncy domain. A 500us pulse has its first zero at 2000/pi = 637Hz, so most of the energy is within 1300Hz bandwidth, and a substantial part will pass though the Rx filter. It will be extended in time and flattenned, but the detection algorithm finds the peak, in effect applying an inverse transform of the SSB filter. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com > > Nb the pulse width , 500uS .. that's a bit sharp for a ssb filter , > only 1.5 cycles at 3 Khz ... ? > > > > > --001636c5a8d14713e9046478ebb8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Not strictly -
Look at it in th efreqeuncy domain.=A0 A 500us pulse has its first zero= at 2000/pi =3D 637Hz, so most of the energy is within 1300Hz bandwidth, and= =A0a substantial part will pass though the Rx filter.=A0 It will be extended= in time and flattenned, but the detection algorithm finds the peak, in effe= ct applying an inverse transform of the SSB filter.

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boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01C9AF9A.5FA51AD0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.8 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_50_60, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C9AF9A.5FA51AD0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Walter, I set the RX last night and came back to find high white noise masking ALL E= U signals, not a trace of any... Will set the traps tonight again... TNX Dave @ /17 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Walter und Marianne Staubach=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2009 9:38 AM Subject: LF: DI2AG WSPR Dear All on MF,=20 DI2AG is still running in WSPR, 0.5W ERP on 505.090KHz. TNX to G= 0HNW for his numerous reports last night and also to F4DTL and DJ6LB. DI2AG=20= will be transmitting continually throughout day and night until Monday morni= ng. Your reports - also daylight propagation - are welcome via WSPR database= or by e-mail. Thanks a lot.=20 73 Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C9AF9A.5FA51AD0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Walter,
 
I set the RX last night and came back to find hi= gh=20 white noise masking ALL EU signals, not a trace of any...
 
Will set the traps tonight=20 again...
 
TNX
 
Dave @ /17
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2009 9:38= =20 AM
Subject: LF: DI2AG WSPR

Dear All on MF,
      &n= bsp;   DI2AG is still=20 running in WSPR, 0.5W ERP on 505.090KHz. TNX to G0HNW for his numerous rep= orts=20 last night and also to F4DTL and DJ6LB. DI2AG will be transmitting continu= ally=20 throughout day and night until Monday morning. Your reports - also dayligh= t=20 propagation - are welcome via WSPR database or by e-mail. Thanks a lot.=20
73
Walter DI2AG /=20 DJ2LF
------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C9AF9A.5FA51AD0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc04.mx.aol.com (rly-dc04.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.33]) by air-dc07.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDC074-b1a49bec85412c; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 17:45:19 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc04.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC046-b1a49bec85412c; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 17:44:53 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LjKbu-0006nL-In for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 21:44:38 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LjKbt-0006nC-Gx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 21:44:37 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-3-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.54]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LjKbq-0002Hu-EC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 21:44:37 +0000 X-Trace: 165001531/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.59.96/None/g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.59.96 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Microsoft Office Outlook 11Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ah0IADplvklYajtg/2dsb2JhbACCJC1TRIU5fYNciGe+RAeCLoFKBoc2 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,375,1233532800"; d="scan'208,217";a="165001531" Received: from 88-106-59-96.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.59.96]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 16 Mar 2009 21:44:30 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <009001c9a588$7eb02c60$6401a8c0@asus> <00e001c9a5a7$f07216a0$6401a8c0@asus> <826BA6086575402A8C87062492069F5A@AGB> <004501c9a623$a4bf81d0$6401a8c0@asus> <2ED02F4327204E3C903828F9E18AA72B@AGB> <001e01c9a665$ebeac870$6401a8c0@asus> <00be01c9a66e$c8bfdbc0$0900a8c0@AM> <004a01c9a677$2a8b48a0$6401a8c0@asus> <005101c9a679$df148f50$6401a8c0@asus> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 21:44:30 -0000 Message-ID: <005f01c9a680$636296c0$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AcmmfuCJOLBY/rPFSW65Ert93bteswAAJ4sQ X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0060_01C9A680.636296C0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNSAFE,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0060_01C9A680.636296C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Andy, I inserted 10dB for the 2104 Tx & then 20dB but at the 2119 Tx there was a very deep fade (QSB) which I also noted on a separate Rx. I will leave it at 20dB for a longer period. Recent levels as below :- 20:45 65.81 40.29 -240.0 1499.7 20:46 43.87 40.29 -240.0 0.0 20:47 43.36 40.29 -240.0 0.0 21:00 58.08 32.23 -240.0 1499.8 21:01 37.72 32.23 -240.0 0.0 21:02 34.32 32.23 -240.0 0.0 21:15 32.47 25.55 -240.0 0.0 21:16 28.19 25.55 -240.0 0.0 21:17 31.14 25.55 -240.0 0.0 21:30 58.90 27.07 -240.0 1499.7 21:31 28.89 27.07 -240.0 0.0 21:32 28.86 27.07 -240.0 0.0 Cheers, Gary. _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Andy Talbot Sent: 16 March 2009 21:03 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software Don't destroy your noise figure though. But at HF you can probably get away with 20 dB at least. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/3/16 Gary - G4WGT Andy, OK, I will insert an attenuator at the antenna socket (that's an easy move) & watch how it performs. It is switched at 10dB steps so I will start at 10db of course. Cheers, Gary. _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Andy Talbot Sent: 16 March 2009 20:45 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software Doesn't matter which - just total system gain. That S/W works best if the noise threshold rides at about 10dB above the baseline, then it allows for up to 70 - 80dB of signal peaks. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/3/16 Gary - G4WGT Alan, When you wrote :- my only comment is that you may have too much gain in the system. Are you meaning sound card or receiver gain? Gary. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Alan Melia Sent: 16 March 2009 19:38 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software Hi Gary my only comment is that you may have too much gain in the system. It is sometimes better to have the noise further down nearer the axis. I am afraid there is a major problem with this kind of beacon, when the fading period is shorter than the sampling interval, so you dont really know what the path is doing. The only reliable points are the peaks, the troughs dont really mean anything without some very sophisticated analysis and probably two spaced receivers. However it does give a snapshot of the band without taking up too much bandwidth (this was what was required for 5MHz too). Despite all the data collected very little analysis has actually be done on the 5MHz data collected by this program. The one succesfull bit of work was that published in Radcom by Marcis Walden G0IJZ. I used it for some time whilst Andy was testing the Poldhu beacon on 160m and also during the 1st two months that ran. I was certainly surprised by the daytime path on 160m from here. I have seen the data collected in Canada via Joe Craig VO1NA and it is difficult to see how to use it. Still if you dont collect the data you will never know!! Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 6:35 PM Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software > Hi Graham, LF, > > > > The original HTML Code for the 2 minute refresh is still inserted into the > page format, so upload is 30 minute intervals with Syncback & 2 minute > refresh. I have left the refresh in case I revert back to the original > grabber page. I will look at changing it if I continue to use the beacon > chart upload. > > > > I would like to have feedback from the LF group regarding the page, if you > check it out periodically, is it useful to you, what are you looking for. > > > > You can view the chart on my web site at :- > > > > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html > > > > 73 > > > > Gary - G4WGT. > > > > > > _____ > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham > Sent: 16 March 2009 17:20 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > Hi Gary, > > > > The page seemed to refresh quite often ... are there two settings ? > > > > G .. > > > > From: Gary - G4WGT > > Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:40 AM > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > Hi Graham, LF, > > > > You wrote :- > > >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute > intervals. <<< that could be backed off to 15 mins as the beacon only > sends every 15 ?? > > > > I mentioned in my previous mail to ignore the text on the page as it was > originally for grabber 1 for when I upgrade the web site (to a new design & > better navigation etc), also mentioned is that upload is every 30 minutes. > > > > If the uploaded chart proves useful or interesting to operators & viewers > then I will change the text & make it a permanent feature for the > foreseeable future. > > > > BTW :- > > > > For those of you who are not familiar with the chart - > > > > The RED trace is Andy's (G4JNT) beacon signal & the BLACK trace is the noise > level at my QTH. > > > > The Blue & GREEN are not in use & should be ignored on this chart as they > are for the other beacons used when monitoring on the 5MHz allocation. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Gary - G4WGT > > > > > > _____ > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham > Sent: 15 March 2009 22:17 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > Gary.. > > > > That looks good ... 0500 looks best time for a qso .. see you then Smile > emoticon > > > > >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute > intervals. <<< that could be backed off to 15 mins as the beacon only > sends every 15 ?? > > > > the 15 db over the noise in day time is the same at this qth .. looks like > the big dips round 1900 where just when we where testing .. typical hihi > > > > tnx- G .. > > > > From: Gary - G4WGT > > Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 7:55 PM > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > Subject: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > LF, > > > > I have now got the software, Syncback running correctly (I think). > > > > The purpose of this is to upload the chart from Andy's beacon as received > here to my web site periodically, ie. every 30 minutes. > > > > I now have a receiver running 24/7 monitoring Andy,s beacon on 503.7KHz. > > > > You can view the chart on my web site at :- > > > > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html > > > > For the moment ignore the text on the page as it is originally designed to > use with the 500KHz grabber when I renew my web site design. If it is a > useful upload I will make it a permanent feature but may have to extend the > frequency coverage of grabber 1 so not to overload the PC with operations > which will cause the PC to struggle. > > > > Let me have your comments please. > > > > 73 > > > > Gary - G4WGT. > > > > _____ > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT > Sent: 15 March 2009 16:10 > To: LF -RSGB LF Group > Subject: LF: Syncback software > > > > Hi LF, > > > > If anyone is using Syncback software & can help, please. > > > > I am tying to upload a file to my website who's filename does not change, > only the file size changes. I tried to do it with Argo-upload but failed so > I downloaded Syncback & still failing. > > > > Syncback gives me the following message :- > > > > ********************************** > > Can connect, but unable to change to destination directory: > > /chart01.bmp:not a directory > > ********************************** > > The Syncback help does not give me the answer. > > > > Any help will be appreciated > > > > Or > > > > Will Argo-Upload do it? > > > > Or > > > > Is there something else to do it? > > > > Thanks in anticipation, > > > > 73, > > > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. > > > > _____ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.13/2001 - Release Date: 03/14/09 > 06:54:00 > > _____ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.15/2003 - Release Date: 03/15/09 > 14:07:00 > > ------=_NextPart_000_0060_01C9A680.636296C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Andy,

&nb= sp;

I inserted 10dB for the 2104 Tx & then 20dB but at the 2119 Tx there was a very deep fade (QSB) which I also noted on a separate Rx. I will leave it at 20dB for a longer period.

&nb= sp;

Recent l= evels as below :-

&nb= sp;

20:45&nb= sp; 65.81  40.29  -240.0  1499.7

20:46&nb= sp; 43.87  40.29  -240.0  0.0

20:47&nb= sp; 43.36  40.29  -240.0  0.0

21:00&nb= sp; 58.08  32.23  -240.0  1499.8

21:01&nb= sp; 37.72  32.23  -240.0  0.0

21:02&nb= sp; 34.32  32.23  -240.0  0.0

21:15&nb= sp; 32.47  25.55  -240.0  0.0

21:16&nb= sp; 28.19  25.55  -240.0  0.0

21:17&nb= sp; 31.14  25.55  -240.0  0.0

21:30&nb= sp; 58.90  27.07  -240.0  1499.7

21:31&nb= sp; 28.89  27.07  -240.0  0.0

21:32&nb= sp; 28.86  27.07  -240.0  0.0

&nb= sp;

Cheers,&= nbsp; Gary.

&nb= sp;

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Andy Talbot
Sent: 16 March 2009 21:03
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software

 

Don't destroy your noise figure though.  But at HF y= ou can probably get away with 20 dB at least.


Andy  G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com

2009/3/16 Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>

Andy,

 <= o:p>

OK, I will insert an atte= nuator at the antenna socket (that’s an easy move) & watch how it perform= s. It is switched at 10dB steps so I will start at 10db of course.

 <= o:p>

Cheers,=

 <= o:p>

Gary.

 <= o:p>

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Andy Talbot
Sent: 16 March 2009 20:45


To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software

=  

= Doesn't matter which - just total system gain.  That S/W works best if the nois= e threshold rides at about 10dB above the baseline,  then it allows for u= p to 70 - 80dB of signal peaks.


Andy  G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com

= 2009/3/16 Gary - G4WGT <g4= wgt@tiscali.co.uk>

= Alan,

When you wrote :-

my only comment is that you may have too much= gain in the system.

= Are you meaning sound card or receiver gain?

Gary.

=

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org

= [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Alan Melia
Sent: 16 March 2009 19:38

To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software

Hi Gary=20= my only comment is that you may have too much gain in the system. It
is sometimes better to have the noise further down nearer the axis.

I am afraid there is a major problem with this kind of beacon, when the
fading period is shorter than the sampling interval, so you dont really know=
what the path is doing. The only reliable points are the peaks, the troughs<= br> dont really mean anything without some very sophisticated analysis and
probably two spaced receivers. However it does give a snapshot of the band without taking up too much bandwidth (this was what was required for 5MHz too). Despite all the data collected very little analysis has actually be done on the 5MHz data collected by this program. The one succesfull bit of work was that published in Radcom by Marcis Walden G0IJZ. I used it for some=
time whilst Andy was testing the Poldhu beacon on 160m and also during the 1st two months that ran. I was certainly surprised by the daytime path on 160m from here. I have seen the data collected in Canada via=20= Joe Craig VO1NA
and it is difficult to see how to use it.

Still if you dont collect the data you will never know!!

Alan G3NYK




----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
To: <rs= gb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 6:35 PM
Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software


> Hi Graham, LF,
>
>
>
> The original HTML Code for the 2 minute refresh is still inserted into=20= the
> page format, so upload is 30 minute intervals with Syncback & 2 min= ute
> refresh. I have left the refresh in case I revert back to the original<= br> > grabber page. I will look at changing it if I continue to use the beaco= n
> chart upload.
>
>
>
> I would like to have feedback from the LF group regarding the page, if=20= you
> check it out periodically, is it useful to you, what are you looking fo= r.
>
>
>
> You can view the chart on my web site at :-
>
>
>
> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html
>
>
>
> 73
>
>
>
> Gary - G4WGT.
>
>
>
>
>
>   _____
>
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham
> Sent: 16 March 2009 17:20
> To: r= sgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software
>
>
>
> Hi Gary,
>
>
>
> The page seemed to  refresh quite often ... are there two settings= ?
>
>
>
> G ..
>
>
>
> From: Gary - G4WGT <mailto:g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
>
> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:40 AM
>
> To: r= sgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>
> Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software
>
>
>
> Hi Graham, LF,
>
>
>
> You wrote :-
>
> >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute
> intervals. <<< that could be backed off to  15 mins as th= e beacon only
> sends every 15 ??
>
>
>
> I mentioned in my previous mail to ignore the text on the page as it wa= s
> originally for grabber 1 for when I upgrade the web site (to a new desi= gn
&
> better navigation etc), also mentioned is that upload is every 30 minut= es.
>
>
>
> If the uploaded chart proves useful or interesting to operators & viewers
> then I will change the text & make it a permanent feature for the > foreseeable future.
>
>
>
> BTW :-
>
>
>
> For those of you  who are not familiar with the chart -
>
>
>
> The RED trace is Andy's (G4JNT) beacon signal & the BLACK trace is=20= the
noise
> level at my QTH.
>
>
>
> The Blue & GREEN are not in use & should be ignored on this cha= rt as they
> are for the other beacons used when monitoring on the 5MHz allocation.<= br> >
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> Gary - G4WGT
>
>
>
>
>
>   _____
>
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham
> Sent: 15 March 2009 22:17
> To: r= sgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software
>
>
>
> Gary..
>
>
>
> That looks good  ... 0500 looks best time for a qso .. see you the= n Smile
> emoticon
>
>
>
> >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute
> intervals. <<< that could be backed off to  15 mins as th= e beacon only
> sends every 15 ??
>
>
>
> the  15 db over the noise in day time is the  same at this qt= h ... looks
like
> the big dips round 1900  where just when we where testing ..  typical hihi
>
>
>
> tnx- G ..
>
>
>
> From: Gary - G4WGT <mailto:g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
>
> Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 7:55 PM
>
> To: r= sgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>
> Subject: LF: RE: Syncback software
>
>
>
> LF,
>
>
>
> I have now got the software, Syncback running correctly (I think).
>
>
>
> The purpose of this is to upload the chart from Andy's beacon as receiv= ed
> here to my web site periodically, ie. every 30 minutes.
>
>
>
> I now have a receiver running 24/7 monitoring Andy,s beacon on 503.7KHz= .
>
>
>
> You can view the chart on my web site at :-
>
>
>
> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html
>
>
>
> For the moment ignore the text on the page as it is originally designed= to
> use with the 500KHz grabber when I renew my web site design. If it is a=
> useful upload I will make it a permanent feature but may have to extend=
the
> frequency coverage of grabber 1 so not to overload the PC with operatio= ns
> which will cause the PC to struggle.
>
>
>
> Let me have your comments please.
>
>
>
> 73
>
>
>
> Gary - G4WGT.
>
>
>
>   _____
>
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT
> Sent: 15 March 2009 16:10
> To: LF -RSGB LF Group
> Subject: LF: Syncback software
>
>
>
> Hi LF,
>
>
>
> If anyone is using Syncback software & can help, please.
>
>
>
> I am tying to upload a file to my website who's filename does not chang= e,
> only the file size changes. I tried to do it with Argo-upload but faile= d
so
> I downloaded Syncback & still failing.
>
>
>
> Syncback gives me the following message :-
>
>
>
> **********************************
>
> Can connect, but unable to change to destination directory:
>
> /chart01.bmp:not a directory
>
> **********************************
>
> The Syncback help does not give me the answer.
>
>
>
> Any help will be appreciated
>
>
>
> Or
>
>
>
> Will Argo-Upload do it?
>
>
>
> Or
>
>
>
> Is there something else to do it?
>
>
>
> Thanks in anticipation,
>
>
>
> 73,
>
>
>
> Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.
>
>
>
>   _____
>
>
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG - www.= avg.com
> Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.13/2001 - Release Date: 03/14= /09
> 06:54:00
>
>   _____
>
>
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG - www.= avg.com
> Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.15/2003 - Release Date: 03/15= /09
> 14:07:00
>
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------=_NextPart_000_0060_01C9A680.636296C0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg01.mx.aol.com (rly-mg01.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.107]) by air-mg07.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMG074-9f649bd288523e; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 12:10:59 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg01.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG018-9f649bd288523e; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 12:10:48 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lisue-0007NE-69 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 16:10:08 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lisud-0007N5-LR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 16:10:07 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-4-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.55]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lisua-0001oe-J0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 16:10:07 +0000 X-Trace: 163594701/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.59.96/None/g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.59.96 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Microsoft Office Outlook 11Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av8GAHTFvElYajtg/2dsb2JhbACCUVOFfX2DW8FqB4N4Bg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,367,1233532800"; d="scan'208,217";a="163594701" Received: from 88-106-59-96.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.59.96]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 15 Mar 2009 16:10:01 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF -RSGB LF Group" Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 16:10:01 -0000 Message-ID: <009001c9a588$7eb02c60$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AcmliH4qkADN0be3Q4OuHOueIGs6QA== X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Syncback software Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0091_01C9A588.7EB02C60" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0091_01C9A588.7EB02C60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi LF, If anyone is using Syncback software & can help, please. I am tying to upload a file to my website who's filename does not change, only the file size changes. I tried to do it with Argo-upload but failed so I downloaded Syncback & still failing. Syncback gives me the following message :- ********************************** Can connect, but unable to change to destination directory: /chart01.bmp:not a directory ********************************** The Syncback help does not give me the answer. Any help will be appreciated Or Will Argo-Upload do it? Or Is there something else to do it? Thanks in anticipation, 73, Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. ------=_NextPart_000_0091_01C9A588.7EB02C60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi LF,=

 =

If anyone is using Syncback sof= tware & can help, please.

 =

I am tying to upload a file to=20= my website who’s filename does not change, only the file size changes. I tried to= do it with Argo-upload but failed so I downloaded Syncback & still failing.=

 =

Syncback gives me the following= message :-

 =

*******************************= ***

Can connect, but unable to chan= ge to destination directory:

/chart01.bmp:not a directory

*******************************= ***

The Syncback help does not give= me the answer.

 =

Any help will be appreciated

 =

Or=

 =

Will Argo-Upload do it?

 =

Or=

 =

Is there something else to do i= t?

 =

Thanks in anticipation,

 =

73,

 

Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.=

 

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Check it out. =3D --_a3de4781-3512-41e2-9176-ab5e41596ebc_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg09.mx.aol.com (rly-dg09.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.93]) by air-dg03.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDG034-5ef49c3e6ec2cf; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 14:56:52 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg09.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG094-5ef49c3e6ec2cf; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 14:56:45 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LkjtI-0008Dx-HC for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 18:56:24 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LkjtI-0008Do-2v for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 18:56:24 +0000 Received: from mail-qy0-f107.google.com ([209.85.221.107]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LkjtF-00033g-VH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 18:56:24 +0000 Received: by qyk5 with SMTP id 5so1491007qyk.30 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 11:56:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=edcTOtAsE/aAE5dYZqnYqpb9J2rX95U7/BDjLyugM64=; b=SgOz69xEBlGDgx1xdDM/D9uOjBzMExDiMi83K0TjqZl55qlZBNW5f7zMkeU7PjI+RO ZQxKHjEEfSSC48jpZYS2fbEyj6Rcd1az3capB3sdcEPHz+yCmc8JCMsjyt+7PsznrY4x x4WJNSkdLYRKjHfD/YA3yXhhgZaUyjImxpzjg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=aK3ebIIzkSfYmslCV5kKZI0EBs/R2RDBSHEMztwZed9qVBM+AOsUDLu8uOY2oRPs73 tpISz3hVS3DqFGTw2hmUrcPmW5CEUfeMthjglPq2LeKair3eppaRmVWtUKWlDgV4u/D9 QE48I1V3nZlJR6yJajX3xmvBnBNiiCnpznvSY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.3.11 with SMTP id 11mr6097122qal.364.1237575374726; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 11:56:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <001401c9a984$a84d8680$0900a8c0@AM> References: <57a24ca70903200951x42ca0ee9rac2f6e87b975896c@mail.gmail.com> <001401c9a984$a84d8680$0900a8c0@AM> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 13:56:14 -0500 Message-ID: <57a24ca70903201156j2ed9c256le398e55c4a3d9c12@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Ropex Info? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m240.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Thanks Alan, I've sent an e-mail to Andre. BTW, the Ropex I have was one of the ones used in the AMRAD experiment. --=20 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 12:51 PM, Alan Melia wro= te: > Hi Warren Andre Kesteloot N1CK (?) might be be a good start. I think Andre > moved one to the AMRAD Part 5 frequency. I have aa feeling that there is a > web site with information on too ....may a PA0 cal ?? > > Alan G3NYK > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Warren Ziegler" > To: "rsgb_lf_group" > Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 4:51 PM > Subject: LF: Ropex Info? > > >> Hello the list, >> >> =A0 =A0 =A0I have just acquired a Ropex "The First" transmitter for 136kH= z - >> but without documentation of any kind. >> I know that Ropex did not supply anything more than a single sheet of >> instructions but I'm lacking even that. >> Questions: >> 1) Anyone have a copy of the instruction sheet that they could copy or > scan? >> 2) Any info on mods (injecting an external vfo for example)? >> 3) Anybody do any 'reverse engineering' of the circuit? >> >> Any info at all is much appreciated! >> >> -- >> 73 Warren K2ORS >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 WD2XGJ >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 WD2XSH/23 >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 WE2XEB/2 >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 WE2XGR/1 >> > > > --=20 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df12.mx.aol.com (rly-df12.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.25]) by air-df06.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDF062-59849b5193e192; Mon, 09 Mar 2009 09:27:37 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df12.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF127-59849b5193e192; Mon, 09 Mar 2009 09:27:27 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LgfVe-0005on-HG for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Mar 2009 13:27:10 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LgfVe-0005oe-6K for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Mar 2009 13:27:10 +0000 Received: from psmtp13.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.25]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LgfVc-0002wr-Gj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Mar 2009 13:27:10 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp13.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KG8006NHQP06H@psmtp13.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Mar 2009 14:27:00 +0100 (MET) Date: Mon, 09 Mar 2009 14:26:52 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <679F094B477F49958AEA8F20E9E4E6E3@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 184khz Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_lzPhO7aHc1dEt+Fj+VDcAw)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_lzPhO7aHc1dEt+Fj+VDcAw) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT nil for Joe, henny cpm 73s --Boundary_(ID_lzPhO7aHc1dEt+Fj+VDcAw) Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
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--Boundary_(ID_lzPhO7aHc1dEt+Fj+VDcAw)-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd10.mx.aol.com (rly-dd10.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.157]) by air-dd04.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDD042-ba649b637a03b1; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 05:49:43 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd10.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD108-ba649b637a03b1; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 05:49:21 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LgyZq-0001st-3L for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 09:48:46 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LgyZp-0001sk-Lf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 09:48:45 +0000 Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com ([209.85.146.181]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LgyZo-0005wa-Fo for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 09:48:45 +0000 Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id k22so1075095waf.4 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 02:48:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=RtWd/vj7LHSLHX3sVcJa5LJNEShBB6bVt9OzgQG6oDw=; b=XpxahtWJ85lym3cUZimecT342mx2jXaD37sRR03BOzyXTrVf23Xe3otvVG3ohZXAhA Q8aXIneV3TueL2vewx8mQUF8SfxS5aPlILXDrMY7MKe8YlW/bRbUc+wtchGNvfHP/dXE FgJPbWQ50IvNCCMwqovBF2wCq7igvtF7dE2mQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Ed9hYOsJTMijLGPlj8/U3TLj0UdlrhWZtzwf2eD7xD+yZ43F1rtITYB8nMZDYZMdmx wumUcx82jmDDfWb0d1OBSlgJgnbTCO1Ns+KNLCl6dE+p23NmvbRQQrmt4Ef8ixtkwSYp mybtFXFpBPqQw7hL9lb283kBd4MOL1einIe9s= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.115.110.6 with SMTP id n6mr4144946wam.227.1236678520678; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 02:48:40 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <8bf118410902200151y197b60fbjddf4acd6500e4b4a@mail.gmail.com> References: <8bf118410902200141m5f37c7dcv6736f876fdcfd3e1@mail.gmail.com> <8bf118410902200151y197b60fbjddf4acd6500e4b4a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 09:48:40 +0000 Message-ID: <5931f8db0903100248k30848559n7d80ce48e4227a9d@mail.gmail.com> From: Harry Woodhouse To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: test Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636457596ed28db0464c0a76a X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNSAFE,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m269.2 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --001636457596ed28db0464c0a76a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Dave, Thanks for all your trouble.I have now got a Google Mail address, and joined with no problems, but am overwhelmed by the volume of it!! Regards, Harry On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 9:51 AM, Dave Pick wrote: > Here is the error message: > > Reporting-MTA: dns; ttsmtp.cpwnetworks.com > > Final-Recipient: rfc822;majordomo@blacksheep.org > Action: failed > Status: 5.0.0 (permanent failure) > Remote-MTA: dns; [193.82.116.32] > Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 5.1.0 - Unknown address error 550-'This message > scored 5.3 spam points - rejected' (delivery attempts: 0) > > 2009/2/20 Dave Pick > > > > My last message didn't get through... does this work? > > Was trying to help a colleague who was having trouble subscribing to this > reflector, even though he was doing exactly the right thing his message was > being bounced by a spam filter. Is there any way round this? > > > > Dave. > > > > -- > > G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK > > > > -- > G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK > > --001636457596ed28db0464c0a76a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Dave, Thanks for all your trouble.I have now got a Google Mail address,= and joined with no problems, but am overwhelmed by the volume of it!!
= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0 Regards, Harry

On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 9:51 AM, Dave Pick <daveyxm@googlemail.com> wrote:<= br>
Here is the error message:

Reporting-MTA: dns; ttsmtp.cpwnetworks.com

Final-Recipient: rfc822= ;majordomo@blacksheep.org
Action: failed
Status: 5.0.0 (permanent failure)
Remote-MTA: dns; [193.82.116.32]
Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 5.1.0 - Unknown address error 550-'This message scored 5.3 spam points - rejected' (delivery attempts: 0)

2009/2/20 Dave Pick <daveyxm@go= oglemail.com>
>
> My last message didn't get through... does this work?
> Was trying to help a colleague who was having trouble subscribing to th= is reflector, even though he was doing exactly the right thing his message w= as being bounced by a spam filter. Is there any way round this?
>
> Dave.
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--001636457596ed28db0464c0a76a-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg01.mx.aol.com (rly-dg01.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.85]) by air-dg02.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDG024-5a149c523fa25b; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 13:29:51 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg01.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG016-5a149c523fa25b; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 13:29:32 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ll50U-0006o3-7G for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 17:29:14 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ll50T-0006nu-RU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 17:29:13 +0000 Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com ([209.85.146.177]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ll50Q-00076L-Qm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 17:29:13 +0000 Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id l24so934296waf.4 for ; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 10:28:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=VnLRlF1Xl1D1vWDe/1/xDNZB9aUbGHDpFYIC6rO8/SM=; b=Pz9J4XRhQDsA+sQRmGpYMIcejQEAX+818nxXkQkXZy6MMUsOm3SL5XjRyhFSpQDwjZ XG0uSsMcNb94unkUoO8jGqcjTc+qPER2CYff36N+//q98zko9+ACW4gdckj7wSkgsa9Q W1/PtF+6yeTHx3/0RaRBXzL22qQ76cV5JUj2I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=FAbDEmST72PxeK7JJKe/ZsyvAk9rNIxpRHsSUDBikLw9K9Fr9uQDM3ggUwk049Cgno oqDs0GvVgzpkyAw3UCGE9ZoOaZL5kjez51sqjTm01AXKA3i3RLOXxdpltb2mhBjvk03T e5e8MC0kMxa/PEPoEPPQeYA5ptmidpi/VWqWs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.114.108.8 with SMTP id g8mr3397055wac.103.1237656529947; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 10:28:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 17:28:49 +0000 Message-ID: <5931f8db0903211028p6893ff63lc1529893bf69c8f3@mail.gmail.com> From: Harry Woodhouse To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: G3MFW F4DTL Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00163646b9f0d24ea70465a45d73 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m265.1 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --00163646b9f0d24ea70465a45d73 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Nicolas, Many thanks. I am still learning on LF! You are only my fifth contact! Problem here is interference from mains on receive. Best 73s Harry G3MFW On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 12:27 PM, wrote: > Hello Harry, the contact was not easy because you had some difficults has > to receive me but here you were strong.Congratulations for your LF contacts. > > *F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP > * > --00163646b9f0d24ea70465a45d73 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Nicolas,
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Many thanks. I am still learning on=20= LF! You are only my fifth contact! Problem here is interference from mains o= n receive.
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0 Best 73s
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Harry G3MFW

On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 12:27 PM, <F4DTL@aol.com> w= rote:
Hello Harry, the contact was not easy because you had some difficults h= as=20 to receive me but here you were strong.Congratulations=A0for your LF=20 contacts.
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F4DTL=20 Nicolas JN18FP

--00163646b9f0d24ea70465a45d73-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (rly-dd04.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.151]) by air-dd03.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDD032-b7049aebc2432e; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 12:36:54 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD042-b7049aebc2432e; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 12:36:38 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lev0n-0007Wc-9g for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 17:36:05 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lev0m-0007WT-R3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 17:36:04 +0000 Received: from qw-out-1920.google.com ([74.125.92.145]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lev0l-0007ZL-UZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 17:36:04 +0000 Received: by qw-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 4so2946135qwk.16 for ; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 09:36:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=9Hf8vOgpJwIGuJ6pf9uatyGa1vJi/GSsuQ++lvaaRWA=; b=ZctpfA7RoSqwVV0JgzkxSIxFB1Whiv+abhRhz6m2ksJ54eS8GOMCQKbeFZcOKETgpS Vp6KHmvc8hW2WUIRpfEB7C2D/1riUGwo3bHp98vFEP7P5SWm1SlYourx34dY2RcMCOKO k9vElxupm+xh7rE1U6O/9ev0WKpWhzvHeqk0U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=diTjPhdWm7Ta8BSUIHLKugg9QVL/txueX2SnJ6C0urZ1C57plHY/7LXWBXQoKunZIC xy6smXmGQ8rTf+NfHEX2XKsngI2vXJmv4d6BZwpSU0rRAt1wWAcQIW5sQdTjj+4DO2mN G/Q55JGbimKaG7Fl18RUrudfxY/bjf+JLSA2A= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.28.213 with SMTP id n21mr245460qac.90.1236188161486; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 09:36:01 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 12:36:01 -0500 Message-ID: <57a24ca70903040936v10e4734apf541906e5da75eaa@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: XGJ 04-03.jpg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d223.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Thanks Henny for the capture! -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 2009/3/4 henny van elst : > Hi Warren,Lf > capture XGJ > Henny cpm > 73s > Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden > verzonden: > XGJ 04-03.jpg > > Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen > het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. > Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe > bijlagen worden afgehandeld. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma01.mx.aol.com (rly-ma01.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.44]) by air-ma07.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMA074-88949aace0522a; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 13:04:02 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma01.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA013-88949aace0522a; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 13:03:50 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ldq0f-0006Iw-TK for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 18:03:29 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ldq0f-0006In-8g for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 18:03:29 +0000 Received: from imo-d20.mx.aol.com ([205.188.139.136]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ldq0e-0003Sw-AP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 18:03:29 +0000 Received: from F4DTL@aol.com by imo-d20.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id l.d27.25806a57 (39952) for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 13:03:18 -0500 (EST) From: F4DTL@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 13:03:18 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5029 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: WSPR on 600m Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1235930598" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, LINES_OF_YELLING,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 -------------------------------1235930598 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Walter, 090301 1748 12 -17 0.9 0.505090 DI2AG JN59 30 090301 1750 12 -17 0.9 0.505090 DI2AG JN59 30 090301 1752 13 -16 0.9 0.505090 DI2AG JN59 30 090301 1756 10 -19 0.9 0.505090 DI2AG JN59 30 090301 1758 14 -16 0.8 0.505090 DI2AG JN59 30 F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP RX : Icom IC7400 Ant: Wellbrook LFL 1010 _http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/_ (http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/) -------------------------------1235930598 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Walter,
       
090301 1748 = ; 12=20 -17  0.9   0.505090  DI2AG JN59=20 30          
090301=20 1750  12 -17  0.9   0.505090  DI2AG JN59=20 30          
090301=20 1752  13 -16  0.9   0.505090  DI2AG JN59=20 30          
090301=20 1756  10 -19  0.9   0.505090  DI2AG JN59=20 30          
090301=20 1758  14 -16  0.8   0.505090  DI2AG JN59=20 30          
 

 
F4DTL=20 Nicolas JN18FP

RX : Icom IC7400
Ant: Wellbrook LFL 1010

http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net= /
 -------------------------------1235930598-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me04.mx.aol.com (rly-me04.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.38]) by air-me09.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME093-9ad49aab3bb57; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 11:11:59 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME041-9ad49aab3bb57; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 11:11:41 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LdoFl-0004hx-9H for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 16:10:57 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LdoFk-0004ho-Uw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 16:10:56 +0000 Received: from mail.tut.by ([195.137.160.40] helo=cluster-ldap.tutby.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LdoFk-0001ER-8C for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 16:10:56 +0000 Received: from [93.84.37.113] (account ew6gb@tut.by HELO [93.84.37.113]) by cluster-ldap.tutby.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.12) with ESMTPA id 2754270 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 18:10:22 +0200 Message-ID: <49AAB385.8050902@tut.by> Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 18:10:45 +0200 From: Andrej User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: EW6GB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) > along with DK4U tuning up and DD7PC calling, the purple trace above > looks like EW6GB. Thanks Markus. Yes, I was on the band today but only SO5AS has worked. 73! EW6GB From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg08.mx.aol.com (rly-mg08.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.114]) by air-mg04.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG041-a2949cc0389228; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 18:37:16 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg08.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG083-a2949cc0389228; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 18:37:00 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LmyBf-0004vT-Nk for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 22:36:35 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LmyBf-0004vK-Cl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 22:36:35 +0000 Received: from smtp3.wanadoo.co.uk ([193.252.22.156] helo=smtp3.freeserve.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LmyBd-0003Yr-32 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 22:36:35 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3206.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 9662B7000083 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 23:36:15 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.61.160]) by mwinf3206.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 580DD7000081 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 23:36:15 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20090326223615360.580DD7000081@mwinf3206.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: References: <4A6AE023E8F54CDF9ABFC1DB78F176BA@DR2> <49CB60CE.7050807@charter.net> <009601c9ae42$b3638c50$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> In-Reply-To: <009601c9ae42$b3638c50$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 22:36:14 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8064.206 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8064.206 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 3 rd Time lucky ? waspr 502.4 Khz 2200 > 0100 gmt Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Due to odd things going wrong ... running wspr Third time lucky ? WSPR 502.4 K (dial) 2200 > 0100 GMT G0NBD G .. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma09.mx.aol.com (rly-ma09.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.53]) by air-ma07.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMA072-8ce49af3872142; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 21:27:12 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma09.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA098-8ce49af3872142; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 21:27:02 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lf3I0-0004hS-CD for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 02:26:24 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lf3Hz-0004hJ-TO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 02:26:23 +0000 Received: from vms173015pub.verizon.net ([206.46.173.15]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lf3Hy-0001jf-Rc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 02:26:23 +0000 Received: from DR2 ([71.184.212.10]) by vms173015.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KG000BRUHFBQ4ZZ@vms173015.mailsrvcs.net> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 20:25:59 -0600 (CST) Message-id: From: "dave.riley3" To: , "600MRG" References: <000a01c99a91$a54a1180$1402a8c0@e7010> Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 21:25:57 -0500 MIME-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Deep copy... Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002B_01C99D0F.CEE73920" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.1 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_40_50, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_002B_01C99D0F.CEE73920 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I seem to get best results while trying to pull signals out of the noise whe= n the AGC of the receiver is OFF as well as the Noise Blanker and Noise redu= ction features being OFF... Do you concur?? Also setting a good audio filter to the passband of interest seems to bypass= some heavy static hits as well... Wat Sa OM ?? TNX from Dave @ WD2XSH/17 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_002B_01C99D0F.CEE73920 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I seem to get best results while trying to=20 pull signals out of the noise when the AGC of the receiver is OFF=20= as=20 well as the Noise Blanker and Noise reduction features being=20 OFF...
 
Do you concur??
 
Also setting a good audio filter to the passband= of=20 interest seems to bypass some heavy static hits as well...
 
Wat Sa OM ??
 
 
TNX from Dave @ WD2XSH/17
 
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_002B_01C99D0F.CEE73920-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg07.mx.aol.com (rly-dg07.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.91]) by air-dg04.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDG044-5da49bfed4119d; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 14:34:56 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg07.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG073-5da49bfed4119d; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 14:34:43 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lje7Z-0005BX-FU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 18:34:37 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lje7Z-0005BO-3C for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 18:34:37 +0000 Received: from qw-out-1920.google.com ([74.125.92.148]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lje7X-0004Gm-1Z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 18:34:37 +0000 Received: by qw-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 5so128078qwc.16 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 11:34:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=5pVnlnat75PCMbFO0fwmq+CHhDlIS1F970wCIBAKkXQ=; b=W+TgOJK/+PELpHaMfj2+FX2FUykUWbqnYSQ5VfuU1Wa4A7ewGOeLDJ+o4YLvtpFA2a 3BW//ad5p53a2/gBOF+YnzaGGSAVc509cKThY+rRnWfQ73njULxfBUp/9w96cwMuJgA0 ez6womLodAnPx0YKzxDh6NnGD90eYCee1puqQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=sVYTjRa6eM29KGFI6zKyR5ka3CTjDe0AGk6giRtpjl/LCXALw5Xv11MDmGyJaHN//B cL6GmD34OY4t6AWcWRJWWEvUVfHb2ML1qi496Yr95UWG/U3UupcJXh8/YEOjf2Le1ojU yaxmqkCCkwx0SvRUL8h8ganBQEf73HVxz3SiM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.36.202 with SMTP id u10mr597575qad.124.1237314565866; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 11:29:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <200903171918350875.1D3716BA@smtp.wanadoo.fr> References: <200903171918350875.1D3716BA@smtp.wanadoo.fr> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 13:29:25 -0500 Message-ID: <57a24ca70903171129i1b3a3131tdb2abf599cbeed8b@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: Re: LF: F1AFJ 15dB over QRN+LX on 137 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d260.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi John, What frequency and speed (QRSS?0 is F1AFJ on? -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 1:18 PM, John RABSON wrote: > At 1811z > > John Rabson > F5VLF > 58800 Cervon > France > JN17vg > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc08.mx.aol.com (rly-dc08.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.37]) by air-dc03.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDC032-b3849c15b197f; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 16:35:48 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc08.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC084-b3849c15b197f; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 16:35:38 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lk2Ty-0002SV-6j for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 20:35:22 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lk2Tx-0002SM-Np for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 20:35:21 +0000 Received: from blu0-omc4-s30.blu0.hotmail.com ([65.55.111.169]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lk2Tv-0003uC-Hp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 20:35:21 +0000 Received: from BLU146-W37 ([65.55.111.137]) by blu0-omc4-s30.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 18 Mar 2009 13:35:13 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [196.40.0.241] From: Laurence BY3A-KL1X China To: , , Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 12:35:13 -0800 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Mar 2009 20:35:13.0605 (UTC) FILETIME=[0A32E750:01C9A809] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_ca24653e-cc13-4897-ae89-0d3b36006e4c_" Subject: LF: Ti3 wspr 507.00 tonight and qrss 3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_ca24653e-cc13-4897-ae89-0d3b36006e4c_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 Will be "listening" 507 dial wspr and qrss 3 slow 507.000 -507.170 tonight f= rom my dusk till dawn. =20 nominations for modes and freqs near 505 et al for tomorrow welcomed. =20 =20 Laurence ti3/ kl 1 x =20 =20 =20 _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live=99 Groups: Create an online spot for your favorite groups to me= et. http://windowslive.com/online/groups?ocid=3DTXT_TAGLM_WL_groups_032009=3D --_ca24653e-cc13-4897-ae89-0d3b36006e4c_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable  
Will be "listening" 507 dial wspr and qrss 3 slow 507.000 -507.170 tonight f= rom my dusk till dawn.
 
nominations for modes and freqs  near 505 et al for tomorrow welcomed.<= BR>  
 
Laurence ti3/ kl 1 x
 
 
 

Windows Live=99 Groups: Create an online spot for your= favorite groups to meet. Check it out. =3D --_ca24653e-cc13-4897-ae89-0d3b36006e4c_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh08.mx.aol.com (rly-mh08.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.144]) by air-mh01.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMH014-bec49c1510c2f7; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 15:52:57 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh08.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH084-bec49c1510c2f7; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 15:52:46 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lk1oQ-0001a3-HI for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 19:52:26 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lk1oQ-0001Zu-2E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 19:52:26 +0000 Received: from [193.252.22.192] (helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lk1oN-0003cg-V7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 19:52:26 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3623.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 1996A7000087 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 20:52:16 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.14.71]) by mwinf3623.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id D1ABB7000086 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 20:52:15 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20090318195215858.D1ABB7000086@mwinf3623.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: References: <009001c9a588$7eb02c60$6401a8c0@asus> <00be01c9a66e$c8bfdbc0$0900a8c0@AM> <004a01c9a677$2a8b48a0$6401a8c0@asus> <005101c9a679$df148f50$6401a8c0@asus> <916F3329CAA846A19B450540FCC7E0AB@AGB> In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 19:52:15 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8064.206 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8064.206 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software QQQ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00F5_01C9A803.095ABE80" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_00F5_01C9A803.095ABE80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Andy, Q .. If the tx is keyed by vox/breakin will the slight clipping of the=20= leading edge of the beacon cause time problems ?? reason being .. if use force 'tx' will miss the beacon rx windows ?? Tnx- G ..=20 From: Andy Talbot=20 Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 4:27 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software That should have read http://www.g4jnt.com/PCBCN.zip Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/3/17 Andy Talbot Try http://www.g4jnt.com/beacons.htm and go to PCBCN at the bottom or directly =20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.16/2006 - Release Date: 03/17/09 0= 7:23:00 ------=_NextPart_000_00F5_01C9A803.095ABE80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Andy,
 
Q .. If the  tx is keyed by=20 vox/breakin    will the slight  clipping of the =20 leading edge of the  beacon  cause time problems ??
reason being  .. if use force 'tx' wil= l miss=20 the  beacon rx windows ??
 
Tnx- G ..

Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 4:27 PM
Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software

That should have read http://www.g4jnt.com/PCBCN.zip

Andy  G4JNT
= www.g4jnt.com


2009/3/17 Andy Talbot <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>
Try = http://www.g4jnt.com/beacons.htm    and=20 go to  PCBCN at the bottom
 or directly 


No virus found in this incoming message.
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------=_NextPart_000_00F5_01C9A803.095ABE80-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg08.mx.aol.com (rly-mg08.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.114]) by air-mg06.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG062-a2749c6375a18c; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 09:04:42 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg08.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG081-a2749c6375a18c; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 09:04:29 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LlNLC-0002iP-GQ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 13:03:50 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LlNLC-0002iG-3F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 13:03:50 +0000 Received: from psmtp12.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.24]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LlNL9-0000yd-94 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 13:03:50 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp12.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KGW000GTS9VKK@psmtp12.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 14:03:31 +0100 (MET) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 14:03:30 +0100 From: henny van elst To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-id: <9520BB071E14481E9D1566D5D1824BE0@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: PA3CPM F4DTL Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_VAD2Kj0Q6k4izBRYxbJWkg)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_VAD2Kj0Q6k4izBRYxbJWkg) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT hello nicolaas, tnx for the contact, best 73s henny pa3cpm. ----- Original Message ----- From: F4DTL@aol.com To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 11:23 AM Subject: LF: PA3CPM F4DTL Thanks my friend for this new contact with you. Have a nice day. F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP RX : Icom IC7400 Ant: Wellbrook LFL 1010 http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.23/2016 - Release Date: 03/21/09 17:58:00 --Boundary_(ID_VAD2Kj0Q6k4izBRYxbJWkg) Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
hello nicolaas,
tnx for the contact,
best 73s
henny pa3cpm.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 11:23 AM
Subject: LF: PA3CPM F4DTL

Thanks my friend for this new contact with you.
Have a nice day.
 
F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP

RX : Icom IC7400
Ant: Wellbrook LFL 1010

http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/


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--Boundary_(ID_VAD2Kj0Q6k4izBRYxbJWkg)-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de07.mx.aol.com (rly-de07.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.143]) by air-de01.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDE012-4e849b181b92f4; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 15:04:23 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de07.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE071-4e849b181b92f4; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 15:04:11 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LfgGV-0000XD-MT for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 20:03:27 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LfgGV-0000X4-4z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 20:03:27 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.151] helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LfgGT-00028D-SN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 20:03:27 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3526.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 89EDA1C00085 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 21:03:17 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.23.203]) by mwinf3526.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 0D0601C00084 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 21:03:16 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20090306200317535.0D0601C00084@mwinf3526.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: References: <0566EF6DE20B4249A3E74859BF9BA2C6@AGB> <9C03FBF153AB478A9B0DBC5580CF20D2@AGB> In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 20:03:15 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8064.206 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8064.206 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Multi-function beacon Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00B3_01C99E96.9661E1D0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_00B3_01C99E96.9661E1D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ok Andy=20 Seeing a good signal from your beacon, game on !. Well ... if the reports are sent to the 5 meg system , that may cause (more)= confusion .... but there is a need to produce some experimental data from=20= the allocation, this may be more 'tangible' than the wspr reports .... as=20= the beacon is running , I will splash this in the usual news groups , I wi= ll add a note asking for the log files to be retained and not emailed to t= he 5 meg system !=20 http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/multi-function-beacon-by-andy-g4= jnt Tnx- G ..=20 Nb the pulse width , 500uS .. that's a bit sharp for a ssb filter , only= 1.5 cycles at 3 Khz ... ? From: Andy Talbot=20 Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 3:56 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: Multi-function beacon Hi Graham -=20 I'm not bothered about log files myself as I don't have the time to collate= massses of data but if someone else feels they'd like to do it... Haven't hought about how long it will go for, I may just forget about it sho= ved up in the corner of the garage where, if it catches fire, all damage wil= l be contained, so happy enough running 24/7 for now. The 5MHz monitoring=20= system is in there as well. As for your questions on the pulsed part of the wavefom; its not in use on=20= this transmission , I replaced it with a PSK31 message instead. The origin= al 5MHz system used a pulse width of 500us at a PRF of 40Hz, with the idea o= f using an SSB reception bandwidth, so something coul dbe done with SSB Tx,=20= but these days we'd probably go another direction with PSK and a PN sequence= rather than a simple short pulse. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/3/6 Graham Ok Andy, Obvious question, hi,=20 How long are you thinking of running the beacon and where do you want=20= the report files to be sent ? There may be quite a few records generated in a short time, I note from th= e last 'hfc' that there is quite a backlog of data from the 5 meg operatio= n but there is movement to analyse the data. should prove interesting .. =20 How aggressive is the pulsed section of the tx cycle,?, I know there is s= ome interest in using that facility for study's on 500, but as yet I have no= t found the rise/fall and timing parameters. dose it need to be a pulse or= could a small frequency shift be used if time is being measured ? Tnx- G ..=20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.8/1985 - Release Date: 03/05/09 07= :54:00 ------=_NextPart_000_00B3_01C99E96.9661E1D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ok Andy
 
Seeing a good signal from your beacon, game= on=20 !.
 
Well ... if the reports are sent to the 5 m= eg=20 system , that may cause (more) confusion .... but there is a need to =20 produce some experimental data from the  allocation, this may be more=20 'tangible'  than the wspr reports .... as the  beacon is runn= ing=20 ,  I will splash this in the usual n= ews=20 groups , I will add a note asking for the  log files to  be retain= ed=20 and not emailed to the 5 meg system !
 
 
Tnx- G ..
 
 
 
Nb   the  pulse width , 500uS ...= that's a=20 bit  sharp for a ssb filter , only  1.5 cycles at 3 Khz ...=20 ?
 
 
 

Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 3:56 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Multi-function beacon

Hi Graham -
I'm not bothered about log files myself as  I don't have the time=20= to=20 collate massses of data but if someone else feels they'd like to do it...
 
Haven't hought about how long it will go for, I may just forget about i= t=20 shoved up in the corner of the garage where, if it catches fire, all da= mage=20 will be contained,  so happy enough running 24/7 for=20 now.  The 5MHz monitoring system is in there as well.
 
As for your questions on the pulsed part of the wavefom;  its not=20= in=20 use on this transmission , I replaced it with a PSK31 message=20 instead.   The original 5MHz system used a pulse width of 500us at= a=20 PRF of 40Hz, with the idea of using an SSB reception bandwidth, so something= =20 coul dbe done with SSB Tx, but these days we'd probably go another direction= =20 with PSK and a PN sequence rather than a simple short pulse.

Andy  G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com


2009/3/6 Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk&g= t;
Ok Andy,
 
Obvious question, hi,
 
How long are you  thinking of runnin= g=20 the  beacon and where do  you  want the report files to&nbs= p;=20 be sent ?
 
There may be quite a few records generate= d in a=20 short time, I note from the last 'hfc'=20= that=20 there is quite a backlog of data from the  5  meg operation but=20 there is movement
to analyse the  data. should prove=20 interesting ..  
 
How aggressive is the pulsed section of t= he =20 tx cycle,?, I know there is some interest in using that facility for study= 's=20 on 500, but as yet I have not  found the rise/fall and timing paramet= ers.=20 dose it need to  be a pulse or  could a small frequency shift be= =20 used if time is being measured ?
 
Tnx- G ..
 
 
 
 
 
 


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Hi Petr -
 
I use the TDA2030 as a pre-amplifier to produce a few watts in my=20= 136 kHz linear PA. The spec implies that it should still have some useful ga= in at 500 kHz - I'll be most interested to hear how you get on.  
 
Regards - Brian (G3YKB)

--- On Wed, 25/3/09, Petr Mal=FD &= lt;p.maly@gmc.net> wrote:
From: Petr Mal=FD <p.maly@gmc.net>
Subject: LF= : TDA2003, TDA2030 for PA?
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Wedn= esday, 25 March, 2009, 1:38 PM

Hi all,
 
My intention is to build a small transmitte= r up to some 10W for 136 and 505 kHz, this time not the D class, but B=20= or AB class.
I think of employing AF amplifiers such as=20= TDA2003, TDA2030, or similar. Of course, mainly 505 kHz is rather out of ran= ge so that nothing is guaranteed. This is why I ask before experimenting.
Did anybody try to use these for 136/505 kH= z?
 
Tks, 73, Petr, OK!FIG
 
 

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for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 13:33:40 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LfDhj-0003jn-PX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 13:33:39 +0000 Received: from qw-out-1920.google.com ([74.125.92.144]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LfDhj-0001bi-1f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 13:33:39 +0000 Received: by qw-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 4so3318860qwk.16 for ; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 05:33:35 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=dmZ1HZ667J91QurkkAro7xQ4bSu7YO5Ow/bcj9hWm64=; b=exYYbZA4s3dV5uG3g0GgX+o91DP+vRZhrMq1oJAHAyevJlcQBucTlDBIDtB7Rt8Q6o pwElq7tzwFUVeUbwCGKJCIn2sWgvPIAwqC0BZkzOCSOEASzG6M+Z3zHVHtnTsAwILjM4 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Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d242.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Thank you Willem for the capture! (XGJ off tonight) -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 8:23 AM, Willem De Roode wrote: > Traces off xgj > > > > 73s Willem pa3ego -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md08.mx.aol.com (rly-md08.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.146]) by air-md08.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMD084-91b49b2658b37c; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 07:16:16 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md08.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD083-91b49b2658b37c; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 07:16:13 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LfvRR-0003pU-GR for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 12:15:45 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LfvRR-0003pL-4c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 12:15:45 +0000 Received: from fish2.hurontel.on.ca ([216.46.129.163]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LfvRO-0003pp-ML for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 12:15:45 +0000 Received: from weazle (pppoe.dyn-216.46.157.28.hurontel.on.ca [216.46.157.28]) by fish2.hurontel.on.ca (Spam Firewall) with SMTP id 83D8D86022C; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 07:15:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from weazle (pppoe.dyn-216.46.157.28.hurontel.on.ca [216.46.157.28]) by fish2.hurontel.on.ca with SMTP id nilu0A0BIEqbaiy1; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 07:15:33 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <000501c99f1e$6a170aa0$0b01a8c0@weazle> From: "J. B. Weazle McCreath" To: Cc: Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 12:15:30 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Friday eve whispers Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=LINES_OF_YELLING autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hello LFers, Lowfers, Here is a sample of the WSPR signals as received at Saltford, On. on Friday evening: 090306 2340 7 -14 0.1 0.508534 WE2XGR FN31 57 090306 2344 1 -13 0.8 0.508513 W1TAG FN42 53 090306 2344 6 -12 0.1 0.508534 WE2XGR FN31 57 090306 2348 2 -13 0.5 0.508513 W1TAG FN42 53 090306 2348 11 -10 0.0 0.508534 WE2XGR FN31 57 090306 2352 5 -10 0.6 0.508513 W1TAG FN42 53 090306 2352 1 -13 0.1 0.508534 WE2XGR FN31 57 090306 2356 2 -14 0.6 0.508513 W1TAG FN42 53 090306 2356 8 -4 0.0 0.508534 WE2XGR FN31 57 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL Solar and wind powered Lowfer " EAR" 188.830 EN93dr http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me05.mx.aol.com (rly-me05.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.39]) by air-me03.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME031-9b549ab57a257; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 22:51:11 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me05.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME051-9b549ab57a257; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 22:51:00 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LdzAq-0005PS-N3 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 03:50:36 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LdzAq-0005PJ-6n for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 03:50:36 +0000 Received: from blu0-omc1-s26.blu0.hotmail.com ([65.55.116.37]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LdzAp-0007bi-0r for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 03:50:36 +0000 Received: from BLU146-W38 ([65.55.116.8]) by blu0-omc1-s26.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 1 Mar 2009 19:50:27 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [138.32.244.2] From: Laurence BY3A-KL1X China To: Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 18:50:28 -0900 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <14664009932A496395491F42FB996D77@ns94d01ae4d850> References: <14664009932A496395491F42FB996D77@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Mar 2009 03:50:27.0750 (UTC) FILETIME=[066B7460:01C99AEA] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_a7a283d1-9f8d-4d03-85f9-19d01deaa7fb_" Subject: RE: LF: Fw: 137khz X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_a7a283d1-9f8d-4d03-85f9-19d01deaa7fb_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Very noisy QRN wise from thunderstorms some way off and only WPF seen cleanl= y. Conditions were actually quite good with the uilities in Eu around 20-30= dB above my -90dBm noise level (with lightning taking it to -65 :-(( ) =20 Laurence BY3A-KL1X OM89 NE China =20 Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 00:44:53 +0100 From: cpm@planet.nl To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Fw: 137khz =20 sr , Capture YO and WPF, Henny cpm 73s _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail=AE is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast.=20 http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=3DTXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_70faster_032009= =3D --_a7a283d1-9f8d-4d03-85f9-19d01deaa7fb_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Very noisy QRN wise from thunderstorms some way off and only WPF seen c= leanly. Conditions  were actually quite good with the uilities in Eu&nb= sp;around 20-30dB above my -90dBm noise level (with lightning taking it= to -65  :-((   )
 
Laurence BY3A-KL1X
OM89 NE China
 
Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 00:44:53 +0100
From: cpm@planet.nl
To: rsgb_lf_g= roup@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: Fw: 137khz

 
sr ,
Capture YO and WPF,
Henny cpm
73s

Hotmail=AE is u= p to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. Find out more. =3D --_a7a283d1-9f8d-4d03-85f9-19d01deaa7fb_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh03.mx.aol.com (rly-mh03.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.139]) by air-mh01.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMH013-bc549aac36a23d; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 12:18:47 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh03.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH035-bc549aac36a23d; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 12:18:35 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LdpIm-0005PR-1S for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 17:18:08 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LdpIl-0005PI-Lh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 17:18:07 +0000 Received: from mailout01.t-online.de ([194.25.134.80]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LdpIk-0002RE-VJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 17:18:07 +0000 Received: from fwd04.aul.t-online.de by mailout01.t-online.de with smtp id 1LdpIj-0008FN-02; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 18:18:05 +0100 Received: from e7010 (EXZHZEZTQhKf-RUEM2uqmiFpYvLqATH-kiJYI+R3Ac0HTJxtSfZsCTVP1QRjBZGZ2v@[84.147.195.87]) by fwd04.aul.t-online.de with smtp id 1LdpIS-1NxyyG0; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 18:17:48 +0100 Message-ID: <000a01c99a91$a54a1180$1402a8c0@e7010> From: "Walter und Marianne Staubach" To: Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 18:17:45 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4927.1200 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 X-ID: EXZHZEZTQhKf-RUEM2uqmiFpYvLqATH-kiJYI+R3Ac0HTJxtSfZsCTVP1QRjBZGZ2v X-TOI-MSGID: ca891a30-f39c-4596-adf5-83b2b330505c X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: WSPR on 600m Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C99A9A.04FDC1F0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C99A9A.04FDC1F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear All on MF, DI2AG will transmit WSPR tonight. Beginning 18UTC, ending 7UTC.=20 Dial frequency 503.6KHz, beacon on 505.090KHz. Power 1W ERP. Reports welcome= . Please report on WSPRnet.org or this reflector. 73 Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C99A9A.04FDC1F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear All on MF,
       =20= DI2AG=20 will transmit WSPR tonight. Beginning 18UTC, ending 7UTC.
Dial frequency 503.6KHz, beacon on 505.090K= Hz.=20 Power 1W ERP. Reports welcome. Please report on WSPRnet.org or this=20 reflector.
 
73  Walter  DI2AG / DJ2LF<= /DIV>
 
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C99A9A.04FDC1F0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg06.mx.aol.com (rly-dg06.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.90]) by air-dg08.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDG083-5d449b190d730e; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 16:08:57 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg06.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG067-5d449b190d730e; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 16:08:42 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LfhHN-0001Zd-Tt for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 21:08:25 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LfhHN-0001ZU-8S for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 21:08:25 +0000 Received: from mail-bw0-f164.google.com ([209.85.218.164]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LfhHM-0003BC-6x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 21:08:25 +0000 Received: by bwz8 with SMTP id 8so604658bwz.4 for ; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 13:08:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=fhFJOevvfliWartIjrGPRgBHKs8TwLb/RKIIJrDvzA8=; b=Cq6bGFyf3UdJSuVmwXZQkaW8eM8msL0lp6p+JAtwhiEWv67KCbI3oq7mADcMk3D2TS B5A1XjXFlKjgk3v5R703F/2WdybJvMQbn06u9b0PhHApv/ZKHKAjfkjy5TSMdDvUCKW1 5mM850fJgEfcY+im822NR48DqycbQw/sRe0mc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=vgDQuLqQbpcCuasLZW97SfEulOMkvjXtvWS+8m329vxYf8R8MfMz0kW7m9YLOwf8+Q kh4ZEJt6N2CWvOmmXUT8BibN/xKi4PXZmpxIB7LKgKsAcCETzV+DYBve0hp039e+jT/c cCSUhGDx869wJuk2zITXbPsZExdfIQFdRm3pE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.126.69 with SMTP id b5mr2426218fas.54.1236373698226; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 13:08:18 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <28FA0F184B25444F8BA2F1EC5FC42C04@AGB> References: <0566EF6DE20B4249A3E74859BF9BA2C6@AGB> <9C03FBF153AB478A9B0DBC5580CF20D2@AGB> <28FA0F184B25444F8BA2F1EC5FC42C04@AGB> Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 21:08:18 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Multi-function beacon Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5a82f17b134046479afe7 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m273.2 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --001636c5a82f17b134046479afe7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Graham - I'm not sure I know what you are hoping to do with the sounder pulse. It was incorporated into the 5MHz system to allow propagation investigations into multiple skywave hops and multipath, Its parameters were therefore set at values that were a compromise between expected HF multipath parameters, and what could reasonably be allowed for in terms of "necessary bandwidth". While G3PLX did generate some data using the sounder, the idea was never widely popular. In fact there has been recent mention of removing the sounder sequence from at least one of the beacons. A short pulse is not really a good choice, but with only a narrow bandwidth to play width, its the best that could be done. A chirp or PN sequence would be a better solution. Are you hoping to be able to set up some sort of sounding system at MF? If so, I suspect you're going to want to measure a different range of values and a different waveform would fit the bill better. I know very little about MF/HF propagation beyond what the amateur textbooks give, but suggest you talk to G3PLX, G0MJW and others who do understand the subject very well. Whatever, I suspect you may be interested in accurately measuring the time delay changes over long paths, and for this, short pulses are not the answer. Instead, coherent systems making use of phase information should do the job. These days, its trivial to get sub-microsecond timing accuracy with any GPS receiver and I firmly believe this is the way to go. It hasn't been widely made-use-of, but the RAL VHF beacons on 40/50/60/70MHz, and GB3VHF on 144MHz all have a GPS timed sequence of once per second phase reversals as part of their transmission (JT65B, CW, carrier, reversals). These reversals occur at a precise point referred to UTC, and anyone else can measure them, and relate to a local GPS reference. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/3/6 Graham > OK Andy, > > I was thinking more in terms of generating the pulse using 'audio' and not > by hard keying .. but the 'area under the curve' looks a little 'thin' > ..pity .. the rest of the system could be 'constructed' using a audio > editor .and sent via a ssb tx with alc 'off' .. how accurate is the start > time requirements ? > > tnx- G .. > > > > *From:* Andy Talbot > *Sent:* Friday, March 06, 2009 8:13 PM > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > *Subject:* Re: LF: Multi-function beacon > > Not strictly - > Look at it in th efreqeuncy domain. A 500us pulse has its first zero at > 2000/pi = 637Hz, so most of the energy is within 1300Hz bandwidth, and a > substantial part will pass though the Rx filter. It will be extended in > time and flattenned, but the detection algorithm finds the peak, in effect > applying an inverse transform of the SSB filter. > > Andy G4JNT > www.g4jnt.com > > >> >> Nb the pulse width , 500uS .. that's a bit sharp for a ssb filter , >> only 1.5 cycles at 3 Khz ... ? >> >> >> >> >> > ------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.8/1987 - Release Date: 03/06/09 > 07:20:00 > > --001636c5a82f17b134046479afe7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Graham -
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I'm not sure I know what you are hoping to do with the sounder puls= e.=A0=A0=A0 It was incorporated into the 5MHz system to allow propagation in= vestigations into multiple skywave hops and multipath,=A0=A0 Its parameters=20= were therefore set at values that were a compromise between expected HF mult= ipath parameters, and what could reasonably be allowed for in terms of "= ;necessary=A0bandwidth".=A0=A0While G3PLX did generate some data using=20= the sounder, the idea=A0was never widely popular.=A0 In fact there has been=20= recent mention of removing the sounder sequence from at least one of the bea= cons.=A0=A0 A short pulse is not really a good choice, but with only a narro= w bandwidth to play width, its the best that could be done.=A0=A0 A chirp or= PN sequence =A0would be a better solution.
=A0
Are you hoping to be able to set up some sort of sounding system at MF?= =A0=A0 If so, I suspect you're going to want to measure a different rang= e of values and a different waveform would fit the bill better.=A0=A0 I know= very little about MF/HF propagation beyond what the amateur textbooks give,= but suggest you talk to G3PLX, G0MJW and others who do understand the subje= ct very well.
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Whatever, I suspect=A0you may be interested in accurately measuring the= time delay changes over long paths, and for this, short pulses are not=A0th= e answer.=A0=A0 Instead, coherent systems making use of phase information sh= ould do the job.=A0=A0 These days,=A0its trivial to get sub-microsecond timi= ng accuracy with=A0any GPS receiver and I firmly believe this is the way to=20= go.=A0
=A0
It hasn't been widely made-use-of, but the RAL VHF beacons on 40/50= /60/70MHz, and GB3VHF on 144MHz all have a GPS=A0timed sequence of once per=20= second phase reversals as part of their transmission (JT65B, CW, carrier, re= versals).=A0=A0 These reversals occur at a precise point referred to UTC, an= d anyone else can measure them, and relate to a local GPS reference.

Andy =A0G4JNT
www= .g4jnt.com


2009/3/6 Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
OK=A0 Andy,
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I was thinking more in terms of generat= ing the=A0 pulse using 'audio' and not by hard keying .. but the = 9;area under the=A0 curve' looks a little 'thin'=A0 ..pity .. th= e=A0 rest of the=A0 system could be 'constructed' using a audio edit= or .and sent via a ssb tx with alc 'off' .. how accurate is the=A0 s= tart time requirements ?
=A0
tnx- G ..
=A0
=A0

Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 8:13 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Multi-function beacon

Not strictly -
Look at it in th efreqeuncy domain.=A0 A 500us pulse has its first zero= at 2000/pi =3D 637Hz, so most of the energy is within 1300Hz bandwidth, and= =A0a substantial part will pass though the Rx filter.=A0 It will be extended= in time and flattenned, but the detection algorithm finds the peak, in effe= ct applying an inverse transform of the SSB filter.

Andy =A0G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com

=A0
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Nb =A0 the=A0 pulse width , 500uS .. th= at's a bit=A0 sharp for a ssb filter , only=A0 1.5 cycles at 3 Khz ... ?=
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--001636c5a82f17b134046479afe7-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da03.mx.aol.com (rly-da03.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.77]) by air-da03.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDA033-a5a49c1303034a; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 13:32:41 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da03.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA032-a5a49c1303034a; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 13:32:33 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ljzco-0000TT-Vo for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 17:32:18 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ljzco-0000TK-KT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 17:32:18 +0000 Received: from smtp02.online.nl ([194.134.41.32]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ljzcl-0008K8-Vj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 17:32:18 +0000 Received: from smtp02.online.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp02.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A1DEA17D for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 18:31:39 +0100 (CET) Received: from pa3fnytrqxpddu (s5593e077.adsl.wanadoo.nl [85.147.224.119]) by smtp02.online.nl (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 18:31:39 +0100 (CET) From: To: Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 18:31:39 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <49C12CD6.9030400@online.fr> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Online-Scanned: by Cloudmark authority (on smtp02.online.nl) X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: RE: LF: wpf,afj Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.2 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS, MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 HI Jean-pierre,my locator is JO22NC, 73 Victor -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens "Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 (F1AFJ)" Verzonden: woensdag 18 maart 2009 18:18 Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Onderwerp: Re: LF: wpf,afj TNX Victor for report , what your locator ? 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj victor13@online.nl a =E9crit : > Hi all, > > good copy afj,traces wpf > > 73 > > Victor > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df05.mx.aol.com (rly-df05.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.18]) by air-df03.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDF034-54d49c4e08a38b; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 08:41:55 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df05.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF052-54d49c4e08a38b; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 08:41:47 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ll0Vf-00040l-Pc for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 12:41:07 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ll0Vf-00040c-Ba for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 12:41:07 +0000 Received: from mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.47]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ll0Ve-0001le-HY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 12:41:07 +0000 Received: from aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20090321124057.ZKKY2989.mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com>; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 12:40:57 +0000 Received: from [192.168.2.34] (really [82.22.242.113]) by aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vG.2.02.00.01 201-2161-120-102-20060912) with ESMTP id <20090321124057.ZLOY21638.aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@[192.168.2.34]>; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 12:40:57 +0000 From: "Mike Dennison" To: F4DTL@aol.com, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 12:40:51 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <49C4E053.27316.B0CD4A@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> In-reply-to: References: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=9YlaCzn6_68A:10 a=VkxzZkABwd4oJlkA0tYA:9 a=Q1S8UMPQoY2XbVHXab2FS8_FprwA:4 a=XF7b4UCPwd8A:10 a=gmBXsakOPyV2O1YJ9SEA:9 a=MdMqCQolhZec9jNJ9i0A:7 a=ciFsR_psvlYAzc2mlFv2z1rGnqwA:4 a=ZKnif72J_Oqc924DYrIA:9 a=8BXF6KY-FoXqHy_UotkOQiS-UzAA:4 a=bC4pTEGzVWIA:10 a=KQqxNPgzF0kA:10 a=MJ1k_NMdMVHGII_1:18 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Content-type: Multipart/Mixed; boundary=Message-Boundary-26347 Subject: Re: LF: G3XDV F4DTL X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Message-Boundary-26347 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Content-Description: Mail message body Thanks, Nicolas. 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16.mx.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID beckmann.erlangen@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #76) id 1LmGLQ-00028U-JH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 00:47:45 +0100 From: "Beckmann, Gerhard" To: References: <864ED1778706409D9A640FF89C5F22C7@Silver> <35BC7A5BC84143BB916FEAA9FA0B67CF@AGB> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 00:47:29 +0100 Message-ID: <6F3FEF77C5114A42BB288377EFF89835@2a2d7ed321c6425> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Acms0VRYCsUWnNUsScCpG1K1t2KDLwACKdPQ In-Reply-To: <35BC7A5BC84143BB916FEAA9FA0B67CF@AGB> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: LF: AW: WSPR G0NBD 502.4 DIAL NOW TILL LATER POSS OVER NIGHT Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002F_01C9ACE3.4FA92A90" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * 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24. M=E4rz 2009 23:35 An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Betreff: LF: WSPR G0NBD 502.4 DIAL NOW TILL LATER POSS OVER NIGHT=20 =20 Making hay while the sun (doesn't shine)=20 =20 G0NBD 502.4 DIAL NOW TILL LATER POSS OVER NIGHT=20 =20 Tnx- G .. =20 =20 =20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_002F_01C9ACE3.4FA92A90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

 

Hello Graham,

 

nice signal he= re in JN59LN

 

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Vy 73 de Gerha= rd=A0 /=A0 DK6NI

 

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Von:= owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g] Im Auftrag von Graham
Gesendet: Dienstag, 24. M=E4r= z 2009 23:35
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Betreff: LF: WSPR G0NBD 502.4= DIAL NOW TILL LATER POSS OVER NIGHT

 

Makin= g  hay while the  sun (doesn't shine)

 

G0NBD 502.4 DIAL NOW TILL LATER POSS OVER NIGHT

 

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------=_NextPart_000_002F_01C9ACE3.4FA92A90-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df05.mx.aol.com (rly-df05.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.18]) by air-df03.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDF034-54c49ae3979294; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 03:19:16 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df05.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF051-54c49ae3979294; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 03:19:08 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LemIp-0001UG-VB for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 08:18:07 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LemIp-0001U7-Eq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 08:18:07 +0000 Received: from mail7.ssmb.com ([199.67.204.181] helo=mail.citigroup.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LemIj-0002fJ-DP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 08:18:07 +0000 Received: from imbarc-eu01.eur.nsroot.net (imbarc-eu01.eu.ssmb.com [169.183.21.39]) by imbaspam-eu03.eur.nsroot.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/SSMB_EXT/ev: 22534 $) with ESMTP id n248HsvG026845 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 08:17:55 GMT Received: from mailhub-dc2.eu.ssmb.com (mailhub-dc2.eur.nsroot.net [169.186.205.199]) by imbarc-eu01.eur.nsroot.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/SSMB_QQQ_IN/1.1) with ESMTP id n248HjqL007806 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 08:17:45 GMT Received: from exuksm06.eur.nsroot.net (Exuksm06.eur.nsroot.net [169.183.26.36]) by mailhub-dc2.eu.ssmb.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/CG_HUB) with ESMTP id n248HgHx011121 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 08:17:44 GMT Received: from exukmb49.eur.nsroot.net ([169.183.32.64]) by exuksm06.eur.nsroot.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Wed, 4 Mar 2009 08:17:40 +0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6619.12 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 08:17:40 -0000 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: XGJ report Thread-Index: Acmcoa+3JBGz78AWR2O5LicAESJAQA== From: "Scholz, Marco " To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Mar 2009 08:17:40.0781 (UTC) FILETIME=[AFAD55D0:01C99CA1] X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 169.186.160.42 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C99CA1.AF7D144C" Subject: LF: XGJ report X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) ------_=_NextPart_001_01C99CA1.AF7D144C Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Warren, I copied your signal from ~22:40 - 00:40 and ~3:30 - 4:30UTC. Attached a strong peak "X" around 4:00am UTC. 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Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db07.mx.aol.com (rly-db07.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.82]) by air-db09.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDB091-ad349b607ff39; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 02:26:23 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db07.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB071-ad349b607ff39; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 02:26:09 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LgvOz-00081Y-Cx for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 06:25:21 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LgvOy-00081P-VI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 06:25:20 +0000 Received: from psmtp13.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.25]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LgvOy-0004t6-7w for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 06:25:20 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp13.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KGA00JJA1U2FK@psmtp13.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 07:25:14 +0100 (MET) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 07:25:02 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 184khz Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_pTNXY3/dxjOXsj5ysQndkA)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_pTNXY3/dxjOXsj5ysQndkA) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Hi lf, nil for Joe, henny pa3cpm 73s --Boundary_(ID_pTNXY3/dxjOXsj5ysQndkA) Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
Hi lf,
nil for Joe,
henny pa3cpm
73s
--Boundary_(ID_pTNXY3/dxjOXsj5ysQndkA)-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db02.mx.aol.com (rly-db02.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.77]) by air-db03.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDB034-aab49c3534d37b; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 04:27:20 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db02.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB021-aab49c3534d37b; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 04:26:54 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lka42-00007s-SR for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 08:26:50 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lka42-00007j-GT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 08:26:50 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.4]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lka3z-0007WP-NU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 08:26:50 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id E66F84C81B2 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 09:26:44 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 922FC4C812D for ; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 09:26:41 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <49C35341.2020408@online.fr> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 09:26:41 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <650F5744AD854ABD8276029657B4AB17@ns94d01ae4d850> <96BF99D9A8BD48F3A8188A31EFE51D62@ns94d01ae4d850> In-Reply-To: <96BF99D9A8BD48F3A8188A31EFE51D62@ns94d01ae4d850> X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: F6AFJ 19-03.jpg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------030108020105070206030704" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --------------030108020105070206030704 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ho! Henny , "1" are : dit dah dah dah dah , "6" are : dah dit dit dit dit I transmit "F1AFJ" :-D ;-) :-P !...... see capture 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj henny van elst a =E9crit : > Hi J-P, > Your pc transmit a 6,not a 1,I think,look at the capture, > henny cpm > 73s > ----- Original Message -----=20 > From: henny van elst=20 > To: blacksheep=20 > Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 9:06 PM > Subject: LF: F6AFJ 19-03.jpg > > > Hi Jean-Pierre and All, > strong signal 137khz > Henny pa3cpm > best 73s > Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzo= nden: > F6AFJ 19-03.jpg > > Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virusse= n het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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(XNaZF8ZOghEx-Sbex24sM7m7OMLj8nPlXfR68d3kj57-zoBcJVXbLPgsD1Ed5yNZf7@[93.196.56.224]) by fwd03.t-online.de with esmtp id 1LnZWa-1nCdFq0; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 15:28:40 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de References:<004201c9afaa$79a0c410$1402a8c0@e7010> In-Reply-To:<004201c9afaa$79a0c410$1402a8c0@e7010> To: X-Mailer: T-Online eMail 6.07.0001 Date: 28 Mar 2009 14:28 GMT Message-ID: <1LnZWa-1nCdFq0@fwd03.t-online.de> X-ID: XNaZF8ZOghEx-Sbex24sM7m7OMLj8nPlXfR68d3kj57-zoBcJVXbLPgsD1Ed5yNZf7 X-TOI-MSGID: ad2758e1-26e8-40ab-a75b-5c7e90337e7a X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: DI2AG WSPR Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative; Boundary="__Next_1238250499_Part29__" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --__Next_1238250499_Part29__ Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit Dear Walter, I guess You should feed your energy-saving bulbs from the mains via a current balun of at least some hundreds of microhenries when running your transmitter! HW? Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB "Walter und Marianne Staubach" schrieb: Dear All on MF, DI2AG is still running in WSPR, 0.5W ERP on 505.090KHz. TNX to G0HNW for his numerous reports last night and also to F4DTL and DJ6LB. DI2AG will be transmitting continually throughout day and night until Monday morning. Your reports - also daylight propagation - are welcome via WSPR database or by e-mail. Thanks a lot. 73 Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF BTW: Last eve, when I started WSPR on MF, I observed my signal with ARGO - full band view. Only one modulated carrier on the screen. All ok. For a while later - sun had disappeared - suddenly the screen was full of vertikal lines , all modulated like the main carrier. It was a ladder, all lines 100, 200, 300,.....Hz apart. When the transmitter paused, the carriers were off. Something wrong with the equipment? After a long time I found the reason: I had switched on the light in my shack. This comes from three energy-saving bulbs, each 15W. My antenna begins just outside the shack, part of the power mixed in the electronic of the bulbs with the rectifiers. When replacing these Bulbs by good olds type Mr. Edison the ghost carriers were off. What do we learn? Before saving energy test the bulbs for curious signals :-) 73 Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF --__Next_1238250499_Part29__ Content-Type: Text/HTML; Charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit T-Online eMail Dear Walter,

I guess You should feed your energy-saving bulbs from the mains via a current balun of at least some hundreds of microhenries when running your transmitter!

HW? 

Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB


  "Walter und Marianne Staubach" <wum.staubach@t-online.de> schrieb:
Dear All on MF,
          DI2AG is still running in WSPR, 0.5W ERP on 505.090KHz. TNX to G0HNW for his numerous reports last night and also to F4DTL and DJ6LB. DI2AG will be transmitting continually throughout day and night until Monday morning. Your reports - also daylight propagation - are welcome via WSPR database or by e-mail. Thanks a lot.
73
Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF
 
BTW: Last eve, when I started WSPR on MF, I observed my signal with ARGO - full band view. Only one modulated carrier on the screen. All ok. For a while later - sun had disappeared - suddenly the screen was full of vertikal lines , all modulated like the main carrier. It was a ladder, all lines 100, 200, 300,.....Hz apart. When the transmitter paused, the carriers were off. Something wrong with the equipment? After a long time I found the reason: I had switched on the light in my shack. This comes from three energy-saving bulbs, each 15W. My antenna begins just outside the shack, part of the power mixed in the electronic of the bulbs with the rectifiers. When replacing these Bulbs by good olds type Mr. Edison the ghost carriers were off. What do we learn? Before saving energy test the bulbs for curious signals :-)
73
Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF
 
 
--__Next_1238250499_Part29__-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf03.mx.aol.com (rly-mf03.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.173]) by air-mf07.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMF073-95049c3d3a2246; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 13:34:30 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf03.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF036-95049c3d3a2246; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 13:34:27 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lkibs-0006iY-J9 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 17:34:20 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lkibs-0006iP-87 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 17:34:20 +0000 Received: from mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.47]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lkibr-000825-IB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 17:34:20 +0000 Received: from aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20090320173414.ISXD2989.mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com>; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 17:34:14 +0000 Received: from [192.168.2.34] (really [82.22.242.113]) by aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vG.2.02.00.01 201-2161-120-102-20060912) with ESMTP id <20090320173413.KZKC13254.aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@[192.168.2.34]>; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 17:34:13 +0000 From: "Mike Dennison" To: Warren Ziegler , rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 17:34:11 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <49C3D393.18849.5C9A7B@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> In-reply-to: <57a24ca70903200951x42ca0ee9rac2f6e87b975896c@mail.gmail.com> References: <57a24ca70903200951x42ca0ee9rac2f6e87b975896c@mail.gmail.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-description: Mail message body X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=9YlaCzn6_68A:10 a=WYl_YlwoAAAA:8 a=z3zJ3i8G625uClo_R_UA:9 a=IIjOHV8ZOCi3zRfOHmkA:7 a=NtFnpAB3IE7kzWVmeCER0XDv5LoA:4 a=gi0PWCVxevcA:10 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Ropex Info? Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 I have posted the documents at: http://:lf.apersonalguide.co.uk/ropex Mike, G3XDV ========== > I have just acquired a Ropex "The First" transmitter for 136kHz - > but without documentation of any kind. I know that Ropex did not > supply anything more than a single sheet of instructions but I'm > lacking even that. Questions: 1) Anyone have a copy of the instruction > sheet that they could copy or scan? 2) Any info on mods (injecting an > external vfo for example)? 3) Anybody do any 'reverse engineering' of > the circuit? > > Any info at all is much appreciated! > > -- > 73 Warren K2ORS > WD2XGJ > WD2XSH/23 > WE2XEB/2 > WE2XGR/1 > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg07.mx.aol.com (rly-mg07.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.113]) by air-mg02.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG021-a2549cb6e761a7; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 08:01:04 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg07.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG077-a2549cb6e761a7; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 08:00:55 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LmoFf-0008Up-Ic for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 12:00:03 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LmoFf-0008Ug-6T for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 12:00:03 +0000 Received: from vms173019pub.verizon.net ([206.46.173.19]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LmoFd-00031D-A5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 12:00:03 +0000 Received: from DR2 ([71.184.212.10]) by vms173019.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KH400DIK3ZOH1NR@vms173019.mailsrvcs.net> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 06:59:48 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <63B21C035B584FA68D28CB5FAE1589EB@DR2> From: "dave.riley3" To: References: <4A6AE023E8F54CDF9ABFC1DB78F176BA@DR2> <49CB60CE.7050807@charter.net> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 07:59:48 -0400 MIME-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36 Subject: Re: LF: WSPR tonight Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=response Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 After years at sea I never heard a 600M inland station, actually never even knew of one except for the Mississippi River stations WAY back... I am 3 miles inland and can tell you that car radio reception is weaker here with more QRN than being down by the water... What really helps is Bill Ashloop's antenna especially over very poor conductivity ground and possibly the 23kv power lines that go down to the beach in a NE direction probably adding some amount of Beverage effect... The odd DB or so from the directional properties of the loop also help with less noise arriving from the sides... No complaints... No ground radials, no hazardous voltages, no lossy loading coils, little e-noise on receive, no detuning during WX changes... Just one piece of wire and one vacuum cap does it all... In fact it is part of the RFPA tank circuit here... ( no DC of course ) TNX Dave @ /17 ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Andrews" To: Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 7:02 AM Subject: Re: LF: WSPR tonight > Dave Riley seems to have some advantage by being right at the coast. Here > at 100 km inland (due west), EU copy on 600M has been more difficult. I > started a WSPR session around 0130 last night, and got only the following > for the whole night: > > 090326 0436 3 -28 0.7 0.503881 M0BMU IO91 33 > 090326 0450 1 -29 0.8 0.503881 7DJ/4Q3ASX S9 > > The previous evening, I had nothing at all on G0BND between 2300 and 0230, > so things are looking up! > > John Andrews, W1TAG > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (rly-dd02.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.149]) by air-dd09.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDD094-b6649c228f738a; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 07:14:13 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD028-b6649c228f738a; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 07:14:00 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LkGBE-0003Vz-Mm for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 11:12:56 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LkGBE-0003Vq-3Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 11:12:56 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-4-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.55]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LkGBC-0001aT-La for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 11:12:56 +0000 X-Trace: 165950855/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.59.96/None/g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.59.96 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Microsoft Office Outlook 11Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApcFAF7FwUlYajtg/2dsb2JhbACCJixUQ4Y6g2LENAeCK4FKBg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,389,1233532800"; d="scan'208,217";a="165950855" Received: from 88-106-59-96.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.59.96]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 19 Mar 2009 11:11:52 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF -RSGB LF Group" Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 11:11:52 -0000 Message-ID: <007501c9a883$81d23930$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: Acmog4E3/FsSl4krQeKRSMCW71ZCxQ== X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 503.700KHz Beacon Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0076_01C9A883.81D48320" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0076_01C9A883.81D48320 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Andy, LF, I have noticed that although I can see the beacon using SpecLab the G3PLX software seems unable to detect the signal for SNR data during the daytime. In view of this I have made a small change to the way I attenuate the input to the sound card to see if it helps with daytime detection. I have removed the RF attenuator at the antenna input & placed an adjustable resistive attenuator in the audio feed to the sound card input (BTW, the sound card is a simple USB dongle type & has no input gain control). I have adjusted the level to be similar to that with the antenna attenuator & monitor the daytime signals when they are present. This morning I had to re-boot the PC & restart the software so I am not sure how that will effect continuity with about 15 minutes monitoring missing due to Windows & Internet security updates. 73, Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. ------=_NextPart_000_0076_01C9A883.81D48320 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Andy, LF,<= /font>

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I have noticed that although I=20= can see the beacon using SpecLab the G3PLX software seems unable to detect the signal for SNR d= ata during the daytime.

 =

In view of this I have made a s= mall change to the way I attenuate the input to the sound card to see if it helps with daytime detection.

 =

I have removed the RF attenuato= r at the antenna input & placed an adjustable resistive attenuator in the audio f= eed to the sound card input (BTW, the sound card is a simple USB dongle type &am= p; has no input gain control). I have adjusted the level to be similar to that with the antenna attenuator & monitor the daytime signals when they are present.

 =

This morning I had to re-boot t= he PC & restart the software so I am not sure how that will effect continuity with about 15 minutes monitoring missing due to Windows & Internet security u= pdates.

 =

73,

 

Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.=

 

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Hi Jean-Pierre,LF
Nice capture F1afj,
Henny pa3cpm
best 73s
 
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
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16.mx.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID beckmann.erlangen@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #76) id 1LjL4s-0002bv-L3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 23:14:37 +0100 From: "Beckmann, Gerhard" To: References: <009001c9a588$7eb02c60$6401a8c0@asus> <00e001c9a5a7$f07216a0$6401a8c0@asus> <826BA6086575402A8C87062492069F5A@AGB> <004501c9a623$a4bf81d0$6401a8c0@asus> <2ED02F4327204E3C903828F9E18AA72B@AGB> <001e01c9a665$ebeac870$6401a8c0@asus> <00be01c9a66e$c8bfdbc0$0900a8c0@AM> <004a01c9a677$2a8b48a0$6401a8c0@asus> <005101c9a679$df148f50$6401a8c0@asus> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 23:14:32 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Acmmf7jnrf5SxfuMQnCt9YRvEED7QQABBNDg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: AW: LF: RE: Syncback software Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0020_01C9A68C.F8AC1830" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNSAFE,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01C9A68C.F8AC1830 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Andy, LF Group, =20 only G4JNT with 17 dB over noise. No signals on 5 and 6 minute slots=85. But very big QRM at DK6NI (sri) =20 =20 22:00 54,34 37,18 -240,5 1507,0 22:01 41,86 37,18 -240,5 0,0 22:02 37,90 37,18 -240,5 0,0 =20 vy 73 de Gerhard / DK6NI (JN59LN) =20 _____ =20 Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von Andy Talbot Gesendet: Montag, 16. M=E4rz 2009 22:36 An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Betreff: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software =20 See you just have - got quite a shock until I realised the noise had plummeted as well. Any takers for the 5 and 6 minute slots? Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/3/16 Gary - G4WGT Andy, =20 OK, I will insert an attenuator at the antenna socket (that=92s an easy move= ) & watch how it performs. It is switched at 10dB steps so I will start at 10db of course. =20 Cheers, =20 Gary. =20 _____ =20 From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Andy Talbot Sent: 16 March 2009 20:45=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software =20 Doesn't matter which - just total system gain. That S/W works best if the noise threshold rides at about 10dB above the baseline, then it allows for up to 70 - 80dB of signal peaks. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com =20 2009/3/16 Gary - G4WGT Alan, When you wrote :- my only comment is that you may have too much gain in the system. Are you meaning sound card or receiver gain? Gary. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Alan Melia Sent: 16 March 2009 19:38 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software Hi Gary my only comment is that you may have too much gain in the system. It is sometimes better to have the noise further down nearer the axis. I am afraid there is a major problem with this kind of beacon, when the fading period is shorter than the sampling interval, so you dont really know what the path is doing. The only reliable points are the peaks, the troughs dont really mean anything without some very sophisticated analysis and probably two spaced receivers. However it does give a snapshot of the band without taking up too much bandwidth (this was what was required for 5MHz too). Despite all the data collected very little analysis has actually be done on the 5MHz data collected by this program. The one succesfull bit of work was that published in Radcom by Marcis Walden G0IJZ. I used it for some time whilst Andy was testing the Poldhu beacon on 160m and also during the 1st two months that ran. I was certainly surprised by the daytime path on 160m from here. I have seen the data collected in Canada via Joe Craig VO1NA and it is difficult to see how to use it. Still if you dont collect the data you will never know!! Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 6:35 PM Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software > Hi Graham, LF, > > > > The original HTML Code for the 2 minute refresh is still inserted into the > page format, so upload is 30 minute intervals with Syncback & 2 minute > refresh. I have left the refresh in case I revert back to the original > grabber page. I will look at changing it if I continue to use the beacon > chart upload. > > > > I would like to have feedback from the LF group regarding the page, if you > check it out periodically, is it useful to you, what are you looking for. > > > > You can view the chart on my web site at :- > > > > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html > > > > 73 > > > > Gary - G4WGT. > > > > > > _____ > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham > Sent: 16 March 2009 17:20 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > Hi Gary, > > > > The page seemed to refresh quite often ... are there two settings ? > > > > G .. > > > > From: Gary - G4WGT > > Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:40 AM > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > Hi Graham, LF, > > > > You wrote :- > > >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute > intervals. <<< that could be backed off to 15 mins as the beacon only > sends every 15 ?? > > > > I mentioned in my previous mail to ignore the text on the page as it was > originally for grabber 1 for when I upgrade the web site (to a new design & > better navigation etc), also mentioned is that upload is every 30 minutes. > > > > If the uploaded chart proves useful or interesting to operators & viewers > then I will change the text & make it a permanent feature for the > foreseeable future. > > > > BTW :- > > > > For those of you who are not familiar with the chart - > > > > The RED trace is Andy's (G4JNT) beacon signal & the BLACK trace is the noise > level at my QTH. > > > > The Blue & GREEN are not in use & should be ignored on this chart as they > are for the other beacons used when monitoring on the 5MHz allocation. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Gary - G4WGT > > > > > > _____ > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham > Sent: 15 March 2009 22:17 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > Gary.. > > > > That looks good ... 0500 looks best time for a qso .. see you then Smile > emoticon > > > > >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute > intervals. <<< that could be backed off to 15 mins as the beacon only > sends every 15 ?? > > > > the 15 db over the noise in day time is the same at this qth .. looks like > the big dips round 1900 where just when we where testing .. typical hihi > > > > tnx- G .. > > > > From: Gary - G4WGT > > Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 7:55 PM > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > Subject: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > LF, > > > > I have now got the software, Syncback running correctly (I think). > > > > The purpose of this is to upload the chart from Andy's beacon as received > here to my web site periodically, ie. every 30 minutes. > > > > I now have a receiver running 24/7 monitoring Andy,s beacon on 503.7KHz. > > > > You can view the chart on my web site at :- > > > > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html > > > > For the moment ignore the text on the page as it is originally designed to > use with the 500KHz grabber when I renew my web site design. If it is a > useful upload I will make it a permanent feature but may have to extend the > frequency coverage of grabber 1 so not to overload the PC with operations > which will cause the PC to struggle. > > > > Let me have your comments please. > > > > 73 > > > > Gary - G4WGT. > > > > _____ > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT > Sent: 15 March 2009 16:10 > To: LF -RSGB LF Group > Subject: LF: Syncback software > > > > Hi LF, > > > > If anyone is using Syncback software & can help, please. > > > > I am tying to upload a file to my website who's filename does not change, > only the file size changes. I tried to do it with Argo-upload but failed so > I downloaded Syncback & still failing. > > > > Syncback gives me the following message :- > > > > ********************************** > > Can connect, but unable to change to destination directory: > > /chart01.bmp:not a directory > > ********************************** > > The Syncback help does not give me the answer. > > > > Any help will be appreciated > > > > Or > > > > Will Argo-Upload do it? > > > > Or > > > > Is there something else to do it? > > > > Thanks in anticipation, > > > > 73, > > > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. > > > > _____ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com =20 > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.13/2001 - Release Date: 03/14/09 > 06:54:00 > > _____ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com =20 > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.15/2003 - Release Date: 03/15/09 > 14:07:00 > > =20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01C9A68C.F8AC1830 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello Andy, LF Group,

 

only G4JNT wit= h 17 dB over noise.

No signals on=20= 5 and 6 minute slots….

But very big Q= RM at DK6NI (sri)

 

 

22:00=A0 54,34=A0 37,18= =A0 -240,5=A0 1507,0

22:01=A0 41,86=A0 37,18= =A0 -240,5=A0 0,0

22:02=A0 37,90=A0 37,18= =A0 -240,5=A0 0,0

 

vy 73 de Gerhard=A0 /= =A0 DK6NI=A0 (JN59LN)

 

Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g] Im Auftrag von Andy Talbo= t
Gesendet: Montag, 16. M=E4rz=20= 2009 22:36
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org
Betreff: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software

 

See you just have - got quite a shock until I realised t= he noise had plummeted as well.

Any takers for the 5 and 6 minute slots?


Andy  G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com

2009/3/16 Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>

Andy,

 

OK, I will=20= insert an attenuator at the antenna socket (that’s an easy move) & watch how= it performs. It is switched at 10dB steps so I will start at 10db of course.

 

Cheers,

 

Gary.

 

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Andy Talbot
Sent: 16 March 2009 20:45


To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software

 

Doesn't matter which - just total system gain.  That S/W works best if the nois= e threshold rides at about 10dB above the baseline,  then it allows for u= p to 70 - 80dB of signal peaks.


Andy  G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com

2009/3/16 Gary - G4WGT <g4= wgt@tiscali.co.uk>

Alan,

When you wrote :-

my only comment is that you may= have too much gain in the system.

Are you meaning sound card or receiver gain?

Gary.



-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org

[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Alan Melia
Sent: 16 March 2009 19:38

To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software

Hi Gary=20= my only comment is that you may have too much gain in the system. It
is sometimes better to have the noise further down nearer the axis.

I am afraid there is a major problem with this kind of beacon, when the
fading period is shorter than the sampling interval, so you dont really know=
what the path is doing. The only reliable points are the peaks, the troughs<= br> dont really mean anything without some very sophisticated analysis and
probably two spaced receivers. However it does give a snapshot of the band without taking up too much bandwidth (this was what was required for 5MHz too). Despite all the data collected very little analysis has actually be done on the 5MHz data collected by this program. The one succesfull bit of work was that published in Radcom by Marcis Walden G0IJZ. I used it for some=
time whilst Andy was testing the Poldhu beacon on 160m and also during the 1st two months that ran. I was certainly surprised by the daytime path on 160m from here. I have seen the data collected in Canada via= Joe Craig VO1NA
and it is difficult to see how to use it.

Still if you dont collect the data you will never know!!

Alan G3NYK




----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
To: <rs= gb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 6:35 PM
Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software


> Hi Graham, LF,
>
>
>
> The original HTML Code for the 2 minute refresh is still inserted into=20= the
> page format, so upload is 30 minute intervals with Syncback & 2 min= ute
> refresh. I have left the refresh in case I revert back to the original<= br> > grabber page. I will look at changing it if I continue to use the beaco= n
> chart upload.
>
>
>
> I would like to have feedback from the LF group regarding the page, if=20= you
> check it out periodically, is it useful to you, what are you looking fo= r.
>
>
>
> You can view the chart on my web site at :-
>
>
>
> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html
>
>
>
> 73
>
>
>
> Gary - G4WGT.
>
>
>
>
>
>   _____
>
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham
> Sent: 16 March 2009 17:20
> To: r= sgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software
>
>
>
> Hi Gary,
>
>
>
> The page seemed to  refresh quite often ... are there two settings= ?
>
>
>
> G ..
>
>
>
> From: Gary - G4WGT <mailto:g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
>
> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:40 AM
>
> To: r= sgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>
> Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software
>
>
>
> Hi Graham, LF,
>
>
>
> You wrote :-
>
> >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute
> intervals. <<< that could be backed off to  15 mins as th= e beacon only
> sends every 15 ??
>
>
>
> I mentioned in my previous mail to ignore the text on the page as it wa= s
> originally for grabber 1 for when I upgrade the web site (to a new desi= gn
&
> better navigation etc), also mentioned is that upload is every 30 minut= es.
>
>
>
> If the uploaded chart proves useful or interesting to operators & viewers
> then I will change the text & make it a permanent feature for the > foreseeable future.
>
>
>
> BTW :-
>
>
>
> For those of you  who are not familiar with the chart -
>
>
>
> The RED trace is Andy's (G4JNT) beacon signal & the BLACK trace is=20= the
noise
> level at my QTH.
>
>
>
> The Blue & GREEN are not in use & should be ignored on this cha= rt as they
> are for the other beacons used when monitoring on the 5MHz allocation.<= br> >
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> Gary - G4WGT
>
>
>
>
>
>   _____
>
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham
> Sent: 15 March 2009 22:17
> To: r= sgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software
>
>
>
> Gary..
>
>
>
> That looks good  ... 0500 looks best time for a qso .. see you the= n Smile
> emoticon
>
>
>
> >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute
> intervals. <<< that could be backed off to  15 mins as th= e beacon only
> sends every 15 ??
>
>
>
> the  15 db over the noise in day time is the  same at this qt= h ... looks
like
> the big dips round 1900  where just when we where testing ..  typical hihi
>
>
>
> tnx- G ..
>
>
>
> From: Gary - G4WGT <mailto:g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
>
> Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 7:55 PM
>
> To: r= sgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>
> Subject: LF: RE: Syncback software
>
>
>
> LF,
>
>
>
> I have now got the software, Syncback running correctly (I think).
>
>
>
> The purpose of this is to upload the chart from Andy's beacon as receiv= ed
> here to my web site periodically, ie. every 30 minutes.
>
>
>
> I now have a receiver running 24/7 monitoring Andy,s beacon on 503.7KHz= .
>
>
>
> You can view the chart on my web site at :-
>
>
>
> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html
>
>
>
> For the moment ignore the text on the page as it is originally designed= to
> use with the 500KHz grabber when I renew my web site design. If it is a=
> useful upload I will make it a permanent feature but may have to extend=
the
> frequency coverage of grabber 1 so not to overload the PC with operatio= ns
> which will cause the PC to struggle.
>
>
>
> Let me have your comments please.
>
>
>
> 73
>
>
>
> Gary - G4WGT.
>
>
>
>   _____
>
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT
> Sent: 15 March 2009 16:10
> To: LF -RSGB LF Group
> Subject: LF: Syncback software
>
>
>
> Hi LF,
>
>
>
> If anyone is using Syncback software & can help, please.
>
>
>
> I am tying to upload a file to my website who's filename does not chang= e,
> only the file size changes. I tried to do it with Argo-upload but faile= d
so
> I downloaded Syncback & still failing.
>
>
>
> Syncback gives me the following message :-
>
>
>
> **********************************
>
> Can connect, but unable to change to destination directory:
>
> /chart01.bmp:not a directory
>
> **********************************
>
> The Syncback help does not give me the answer.
>
>
>
> Any help will be appreciated
>
>
>
> Or
>
>
>
> Will Argo-Upload do it?
>
>
>
> Or
>
>
>
> Is there something else to do it?
>
>
>
> Thanks in anticipation,
>
>
>
> 73,
>
>
>
> Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.
>
>
>
>   _____
>
>
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG - www.= avg.com
> Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.13/2001 - Release Date: 03/14= /09
> 06:54:00
>
>   _____
>
>
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG - www.= avg.com
> Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.15/2003 - Release Date: 03/15= /09
> 14:07:00
>
>

 

 

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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m240.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Marco, Thank you! --=20 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 1:02 PM, Scholz, Marco wrote= : > Hello Warren, > I have 2 pages - schematic and pcb board. > You can download from > http://dd7pc.qsl.nu/dd7pc_137khz_files/ropex_schematic_01.jpg and > http://dd7pc.qsl.nu/dd7pc_137khz_files/ropex_schematic_02.jpg > > Vy73 > Marco > DD7PC > > ----- Originalnachricht ----- > Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Gesendet: Fri Mar 20 17:31:46 2009 > Betreff: Re: LF: Ropex Info? > > Marco, > > =A0 =A0Thank you! > > -- > 73 Warren K2ORS > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0WD2XGJ > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0WD2XSH/23 > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0WE2XEB/2 > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0WE2XGR/1 > > > On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 12:23 PM, Scholz, Marco wr= ote: >> Hello Warren, >> I have also a Ropex and will scan the light documentation for you. >> The only modification I did was a socket for the xtal, so I can easily ch= ange the frequency. I have anyway the top cover removed, because with an add= itional big fan I can ran QRSS60. Without I think QRSS3 is the maximum. >> I also need a low pass filter in front off my loading coil as described o= n the great website http://wireless.org.uk/ropex.htm >> >> Vy73 >> Marco >> DD7PC >> >> >> ----- Originalnachricht ----- >> Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> An: rsgb_lf_group >> Gesendet: Fri Mar 20 16:51:34 2009 >> Betreff: LF: Ropex Info? >> >> Hello the list, >> >> =A0 =A0 I have just acquired a Ropex "The First" transmitter for 136kHz - >> but without documentation of any kind. >> I know that Ropex did not supply anything more than a single sheet of >> instructions but I'm lacking even that. >> Questions: >> 1) Anyone have a copy of the instruction sheet that they could copy or sc= an? >> 2) Any info on mods (injecting an external vfo for example)? >> 3) Anybody do any 'reverse engineering' of the circuit? >> >> Any info at all is much appreciated! >> From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md01.mx.aol.com 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Mike, G3XDV ========== From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md02.mx.aol.com (rly-md02.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.140]) by air-md04.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMD041-8eb49b10377114; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 06:05:52 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md02.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD023-8eb49b10377114; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 06:05:30 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LfXqK-0001xk-Rh for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 11:03:52 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LfXqJ-0001xb-On for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 11:03:51 +0000 Received: from mail-bw0-f164.google.com ([209.85.218.164]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LfXqH-0005YY-Ve for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 11:03:51 +0000 Received: by bwz8 with SMTP id 8so361991bwz.4 for ; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 03:03:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=CBkPQrTxEbZINXMZa8pdolItmyyXjRvOYJsX/XRzDEk=; b=mOlQoEWN9qJ+2bg4chMc8kG5+2vGvEyI9OhQpxq17tbjg7haEfMwFiIDC6LPrM0FpP mQIdMLMi8OS9j4dDAY5odZ5ksD7aZdi+hbLFShVnEL8j8q64jzNpFbHR8nAtoCi177EO MPvAgyuojyi6Qb4Ql1Gax3fUi77EZJ/6MV18g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; b=uDuYOySKKLPAHXJTGCVGAgEtUxx0rWrFZEwIT3p9KvhL0bQkEkxtNFcqYcwmz7GFFF XTNSr9r3q9I8TLGzMcnxEtZt1k8FW5fiF7lJv19juQKmilEiJwpV5Z8724LWDRpPOjMe qUDB3zECRte29egj0v/jWcQmoqiGFHsrayfjw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.113.132 with SMTP id a4mr1881930faq.75.1236337421935; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 03:03:41 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 11:03:41 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Cc: "jfell@tesco.net" DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_10_20=0.945,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Multi-function beacon Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5a84edb64420464713c48 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d284.1 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : fail X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --001636c5a84edb64420464713c48 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've now started transmitting a timed beacon signal on 503.7kHz that is identical in format to that of GB3SSS operated over the winter months of the last two years from Poldhu on 1.9 and 3.5MHz, and has a similar signal structure to the 5MHz beacons, GB3RAL, WES and ORK. These all have an initial CW ident and stepped power levels for aural reception, and a precisely defined period of full-power plain carrier for S/N measurements. See http://www.rsgb-spectrumforum.org.uk/5mhz%20beacons.htm for the complete 5MHz signal structure. For this MF transmission, as on GB3SSS, the pulsed sounder sequence of the 5MHz beacons is replaced with a PSK31 message which lasts from 30s to approx 48 seconds after the start Auto Monitoring software writen by G3PLX is available for monitoring these beacons, it measures signal to noise during the carrier period and saves to file as well as plotting the last 40 hours worth of measurements. The software can be downloaded from http://www.rsgb.org/spectrumforum/hf/beaconauto.php . PSK31 data can be copied with Digipan, Fldigi, PSK31SBW or a host of other packages. *TIMING * The 503.7kHz transmission takes place every 15 minutes at 4 minutes past the quarter hour. ie each transmission starts at *xx:04, xx:19, xx:34 and xx:49 * This time slot has been selected so that the transmission do not interfere with my continuous ongoing reception of the 5Mhz beacons - the active antenna used for these is overloaded by the 500kHz signal and I have already lost data when the WSPR beacon transmission coincided with one of the monitoring windows. NOTE If using the G3PLX software, this only monitors for the three 5MHz beacons at 00, 01 and 02 minutes. *SO IT WILL BE NECESSARY TO FRIG THE SOFTWARE * to monitor this transmission at the 04 minute point. The necessary alteration can be done by firstly setting your PC clock accurately to the correct time, then setting the Track Time box to -240 (minus 240 seconds). This will make the software look for this transmission during the time window it thinks it would be receiving GB3RAL, and log the MF transmission during the first minute, on the red trace, as if it were GB3RAL The beacon uses the identical hardware to the WSPR transmissions of the last few weeks, with the the only change being a reprogramming of the controller PIC. In fact the very same hardware was previously loaned to the Poldhu club for their beacons, with the only difference being a change to the final Low Pass filter on the output of the broadband PA. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com --001636c5a84edb64420464713c48 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I've now=A0started transmitting a timed=A0 beacon signal on 503.7kH= z that is=A0identical in format to that of GB3SSS operated over the winter m= onths of the last two years=A0=A0from Poldhu on 1.9 and 3.5MHz, =A0and has= =A0a similar signal structure to the 5MHz beacons, GB3RAL, WES and ORK.=A0 T= hese all have=A0an initial CW ident and=A0stepped power levels for aural rec= eption,=A0and a precisely defined period of full-power plain carrier for S/N= measurements.=A0=A0
See=A0 =A0http://www.rsgb-spectrumforum.org.uk/5mhz%20beacons.htm=A0 for th= e complete 5MHz =A0signal structure.=A0=A0For this MF transmission, as on GB= 3SSS, the pulsed sounder sequence of the 5MHz beacons is replaced with a PSK= 31 message which lasts from=A030s to approx 48 seconds after the start
=A0
Auto Monitoring software writen by G3PLX is available for monitoring th= ese beacons, it measures signal to noise during the carrier period and saves= to file as well as plotting the last 40 hours worth of measurements.
The software can be downloaded from=A0 http://www.rsgb.org/spectrumforum/hf/beacona= uto.php=A0.=A0=A0 PSK31 data can be copied with Digipan, Fldigi, PSK31SB= W or a host of other packages.
=A0
TIMING
The 503.7kHz transmission takes place every 15 minutes at 4 minutes pas= t the quarter hour.=A0
ie=A0each transmission starts at xx:04, xx:19, xx:34 and xx:49= =A0=A0=A0=A0This time slot has been selected so that the transmissi= on do not interfere with my continuous ongoing reception of the 5Mhz beacons= - the active antenna used for these is overloaded by the 500kHz signal and=20= I have already lost data when the WSPR beacon transmission coincided with on= e of the monitoring windows.
=A0
NOTE=A0=A0 If using the=A0G3PLX software, this only=A0monitors for the=20= three 5MHz beacons at =A000, 01 and 02 minutes.
SO IT WILL BE NECESSARY=A0TO FRIG=A0THE SOFTWARE =A0to= monitor this=A0transmission at the 04 minute point.=A0=A0=A0The necessary a= lteration can be done by firstly setting=A0your PC clock accurately to the c= orrect time, then setting the Track Time box to -240 (minus 240 seconds)..= =A0 This will make the software look for this transmission during the time= =A0window it thinks it would be receiving GB3RAL, and log the=A0MF transmiss= ion during the first minute, on the red trace, as if it were GB3RAL=A0
=A0
The beacon uses the identical hardware to the=A0WSPR transmissions of= =A0the last few weeks, with the the only change being a=A0reprogramming of t= he controller PIC.=A0=A0 In fact the very same hardware was previously loane= d to the Poldhu club for their beacons, with the only difference being a cha= nge to the final Low Pass filter on the output of the broadband PA.
=A0
Andy =A0G4JNT
--001636c5a84edb64420464713c48-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg09.mx.aol.com (rly-dg09.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.93]) by air-dg03.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDG033-5f149c34e86cd; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 04:06:49 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg09.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG096-5f149c34e86cd; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 04:06:32 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LkZkE-0008Jw-H5 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 08:06:22 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LkZkE-0008Jn-3K for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 08:06:22 +0000 Received: from psmtp09.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.23]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LkZkB-0003nW-Sm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 08:06:22 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp09.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KGS00CSWP67AK@psmtp09.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 09:06:08 +0100 (MET) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 09:06:01 +0100 From: henny van elst To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-id: <96BF99D9A8BD48F3A8188A31EFE51D62@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <650F5744AD854ABD8276029657B4AB17@ns94d01ae4d850> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: F6AFJ 19-03.jpg Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_pZBT7oAvFReCpB1NrzvJkg)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_pZBT7oAvFReCpB1NrzvJkg) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Hi J-P, Your pc transmit a 6,not a 1,I think,look at the capture, henny cpm 73s ----- Original Message ----- From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 9:06 PM Subject: LF: F6AFJ 19-03.jpg Hi Jean-Pierre and All, strong signal 137khz Henny pa3cpm best 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: F6AFJ 19-03.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.18/2008 - Release Date: 03/17/09 16:25:00 --Boundary_(ID_pZBT7oAvFReCpB1NrzvJkg) Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
Hi J-P,
Your pc transmit a 6,not a 1,I think,look at the capture,
henny cpm
73s
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 9:06 PM
Subject: LF: F6AFJ 19-03.jpg

Hi Jean-Pierre and All,
strong signal 137khz
    Henny pa3cpm
best 73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
F6AFJ 19-03.jpg

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--Boundary_(ID_pZBT7oAvFReCpB1NrzvJkg)-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg05.mx.aol.com (rly-mg05.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.111]) by air-mg03.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG033-a0f49cb43e730; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 04:59:45 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg05.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG051-a0f49cb43e730; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 04:59:21 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LmlPj-0006sq-My for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 08:58:15 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LmlPj-0006sh-C9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 08:58:15 +0000 Received: from psmtp08.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.22]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LmlPh-0000Ma-JH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 08:58:15 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp08.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KH300LI2VKVKZ@psmtp08.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 09:58:08 +0100 (MET) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 09:58:08 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: DD7PC SIGNAL.jpg Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_t9PSWG9TzaL+4ek7uYZqGA)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_t9PSWG9TzaL+4ek7uYZqGA) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_Lg9iJka2IFEsDWU5iS5Upg)" --Boundary_(ID_Lg9iJka2IFEsDWU5iS5Upg) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT the capture marco henny cpm --Boundary_(ID_Lg9iJka2IFEsDWU5iS5Upg) Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
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GM3BST and G3GNR active at present on CW. Good signals just worked both. 73 mal/g3kev ------=_NextPart_000_03D0_01C9AD83.00A53D80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
CW acty this evening.
GM3BST and G3GNR active at present on CW. G= ood=20 signals just worked both.
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dell-rik.fys.kuleuven.be (dhcp-10-33-85-199.fys.kuleuven.be [10.33.85.199]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42AB031E703 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 11:57:17 +0100 (CET) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 11:57:48 +0100 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe In-Reply-To: <000001c99ac8$92fa8c80$0b01a8c0@weazle> References: <49AAF908.7040906@charter.net> <20090301223044.8i4kbe2osr5wco8o@webmail4.kuleuven.be> <49AB04A1.2030308@charter.net> <017801c99ab9$f8e9a9e0$6401a8c0@asus> <49AB098D.1020505@charter.net> <000001c99ac8$92fa8c80$0b01a8c0@weazle> Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20090302105717.42AB031E703@smtps01.kuleuven.be> X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WE2XGR/3 WSPR tonight Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 >I've been watching for WE2XVY as well, but nothing so far. >I guess I'll be more likely than Rik to get a copy! I just had a look at the wsprnet.org database and besides those from KD7LMO (at 63km) no copies of WE2XVY were reported. This seems a bit odd as a 1 W ERP signal should produce good copy over 1000 or even 2000 km. If the given locators at wsprnet.org are correct K1CT in DM12jt (who was reporting WE2XGR last night) should only be +/- 600 km away from WE2XVY. Does anyone have information about WE2XVY ? 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da05.mx.aol.com (rly-da05.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.79]) by air-da04.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA044-a6f49c74daec9; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 04:52:14 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da05.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA057-a6f49c74daec9; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 04:52:01 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LlfsK-0004bP-Lc for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 08:51:16 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LlfsK-0004bG-3f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 08:51:16 +0000 Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.44]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LlfsG-0000pP-7G for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 08:51:16 +0000 Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (smtpshost02.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.75]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FC8551C011 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 09:50:31 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CCB1F3863 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 09:50:31 +0100 (CET) Received: from dell-rik.fys.kuleuven.be (dhcp-10-33-85-199.fys.kuleuven.be [10.33.85.199]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52ABEF3862 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 09:50:31 +0100 (CET) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 09:50:35 +0100 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20090323085031.52ABEF3862@smtps02.kuleuven.be> X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: 1.4 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_10_20=0.945,HTML_FONT_FACE_BAD=0.452,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: definition of telegraphy Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_231705109==.ALT" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --=====================_231705109==.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Dear all, in Belgium we have access to 500kHz since about 1 year. Conditions (limitations) are: - 501-504kHz - max. 5 W EIRP - only telegraphy - max. 100Hz bandwidth - only full license holders ITU Recommendation R V.662-3 defines telegraphy as "A form of telecommunication in which the transmitted information is intended to be recorded on arrival as a graphic document; the transmitted information may sometimes be presented in an alternative form or may be stored for subsequent use.". So digital modes could be considered telegraphy and thus allowed on 500kHz. As we (UBA) reached the 500kHz access only after long negotiations with BIPT (our Ofcom / FCC) we are very careful in what we do. Therefor we asked BIPT if they would agree with our point of view. After internal (read BIPT legal department) consultation BIPT agreed with us. So from now on we can use digital modes on 500kHz. The 100Hz bandwidth limitation is still in force, but there is plenty of digital modes that stay within this limit. 73, Rik ON7YD Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm --=====================_231705109==.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Dear all,

in Belgium we have access to 500kHz  since about 1 year.
Conditions (limitations) are:
- 501-504kHz
- max. 5 W EIRP
- only telegraphy
- max. 100Hz bandwidth
- only full license holders
ITU Recommendation R V.662-3 defines telegraphy as "A form of telecommunication in which the transmitted information is intended to be recorded on arrival as a graphic document; the transmitted information may sometimes be presented in an alternative form or may be stored for subsequent use.". So digital modes could be considered telegraphy and thus allowed on 500kHz.
As we (UBA) reached the 500kHz access only after long negotiations with BIPT (our Ofcom / FCC) we are very careful in what we do. Therefor we asked BIPT if they would agree with our point of view.
After internal (read BIPT legal department) consultation BIPT agreed with us.
So from now on we can use digital modes on 500kHz. The 100Hz bandwidth limitation is still in force, but there is plenty of digital modes that stay within this limit.

73, Rik  ON7YD

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--=====================_231705109==.ALT-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de06.mx.aol.com (rly-de06.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.142]) by air-de07.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDE074-4e549b3dc171c1; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 10:54:22 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de06.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE068-4e549b3dc171c1; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 10:54:17 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LgKNj-00062n-Pf for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 14:53:35 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LgKNj-00062e-Ap for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 14:53:35 +0000 Received: from smtprelay0032.hostedemail.com ([216.40.44.32] helo=smtprelay.hostedemail.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LgKNi-0006xY-Ji for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 14:53:35 +0000 Received: from filter.hostedemail.com (ff-bigip1 [10.5.19.254]) by smtprelay03.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 9B28CE4BBA2 for ; Sun, 8 Mar 2009 14:53:29 +0000 (UTC) X-SpamScore: 1 X-Spam-Summary: 10,1,0,5fb29d2548861680,01ee257d81aa0776,peter.cleall@virgin.net,rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org,RULES_HIT:152:355:375:379:962:972:983:988:989:1189:1208:1224:1260:1311:1313:1314:1345:1373:1436:1437:1515:1516:1517:1534:1540:1588:1589:1593:1594:1676:1711:1714:1730:1747:1766:1792:2198:2199:2378:2393:2559:2562:2902:3280:3351:3865:3866:3867:3868:3870:3873:3874:3876:3877:4250:5007:6114:6119:6261:7903:8501:9391,0,RBL:none,CacheIP:none,Bayesian:0.5,0.5,0.5,Netcheck:none,DomainCache:0,MSF:not bulk,SPF:,MSBL:none,DNSBL:none Received: from webmail03 (imap-ext [216.40.42.5]) (Authenticated sender: peter.cleall@virgin.net) by omf06.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 8 Mar 2009 14:53:29 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 14:53:29 +0000 (GMT) From: Peter Cleall To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <1794381892.23372.1236524009509.JavaMail.mail@webmail03> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-session-marker: 70657465722E636C65616C6C4076697267696E2E6E6574 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,MIME_HTML_ONLY=0.001 Subject: LF: energy saving bulbs Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, MIME_HTML_ONLY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version)

For many years I have avoided using the energy saving bulbs under the impression that they were major RF pollutents. I am under increasing pressure to move to using these bulbs.

 

 Are my concerns still the case or are they old fashioned and out of date.

Do you have experience of using these bulbs in the home.

Do modern versions interfer with your Radio receiving , I am interested in signals from 15 kHz to 500 MHz.

Are there specific types or manufactures to be avoided

Any thoughts would be appreciaated

regards

peter


 

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de06.mx.aol.com (rly-de06.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.142]) by air-de07.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDE072-4e149b39fbe363; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 06:37:00 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de06.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE064-4e149b39fbe363; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 06:36:48 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LgGMP-0002sZ-39 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 10:35:57 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LgGMO-0002sQ-O7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 10:35:56 +0000 Received: from psmtp09.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.23]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LgGMN-0007C0-Na for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 10:35:56 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp09.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KG6003T9O3A3X@psmtp09.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 11:35:34 +0100 (MET) Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2009 11:35:30 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <552E4D8090C443129A866221CE713901@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: XGJ 08-03.jpg Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_H/vM26+cc7uSp3q3zpwLTA)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_H/vM26+cc7uSp3q3zpwLTA) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_GsnOBT9cdd0Ds5jD4ax35w)" --Boundary_(ID_GsnOBT9cdd0Ds5jD4ax35w) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Hi Warren,lf capture XGJ Henny pa3cpm 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: XGJ 08-03.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld. --Boundary_(ID_GsnOBT9cdd0Ds5jD4ax35w) Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
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MAILINDB064-ac149ca720519e; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 14:03:55 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db04.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB047-ac149ca720519e; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 14:03:52 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LmXR9-0001Nu-Kw for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 18:02:47 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LmXR9-0001Nl-3D for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 18:02:47 +0000 Received: from [193.252.22.192] (helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LmXR6-00024k-SV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 18:02:47 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3626.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 2929A7000088 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 19:02:29 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.50.116]) by mwinf3626.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id DCD9D7000085 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 19:02:28 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20090325180228904.DCD9D7000085@mwinf3626.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: References: <86B4F549F8F247DDA470143B3BE77364@Hugh> <008c01c9ad63$4e9a9190$6401a8c0@asus> In-Reply-To: <008c01c9ad63$4e9a9190$6401a8c0@asus> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 18:02:28 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8064.206 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8064.206 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: LF: WSPR Beacon 502.4 KHz Take 2 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME, UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Making hay while the sun (doesn't shine) ...take 2 Due to problems tx and rx .! Running WSPR Beacon as of 1800 GMT G0NBD 502.4 DIAL NOW TILL LATER POSS OVER NIGHT (will confirm near 2400) Tnx- G .. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh04.mx.aol.com (rly-mh04.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.140]) by air-mh01.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMH014-bcf49ab06f41d7; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 17:07:11 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH047-bcf49ab06f41d7; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 17:06:46 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ldto1-0001PS-1C for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 22:06:41 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ldto0-0001PJ-LD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 22:06:40 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-2-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.53]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ldtnv-0005N3-8Q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 22:06:40 +0000 X-Trace: 158706751/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.83.13/None/g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.83.13 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Microsoft Office Outlook 11Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArcEAB+VqklYalMN/2dsb2JhbACDLYZyg2bGXweEEwY X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,285,1233532800"; d="scan'208";a="158706751" Received: from 88-106-83-13.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.83.13]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 01 Mar 2009 22:06:29 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <49AAF908.7040906@charter.net> <20090301223044.8i4kbe2osr5wco8o@webmail4.kuleuven.be> <49AB04A1.2030308@charter.net> Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 22:06:28 -0000 Message-ID: <017801c99ab9$f8e9a9e0$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <49AB04A1.2030308@charter.net> thread-index: AcmauPFQa9ZuzHcOQDKgsQzYvzqNpgAAKYSA X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: RE: LF: WE2XGR/3 WSPR tonight Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi John, Don't forget we see an NDB "Z" carrier on 508.000 KHz, plus or minus from that would be preferred for WSPR signal. 73 Gary - G4WGT. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of John Andrews Sent: 01 March 2009 21:57 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; 600MRG Subject: Re: LF: WE2XGR/3 WSPR tonight Rik, Yes, I can use 508.000 as a center frequency. So that'll put the dial frequency down to 506.500. The WE2XVY signal would certainly be a challenge for you! So XGR/3 will be on 508.000 starting at 2330Z. John Andrews, WE2XGR/3 Rik Strobbe wrote: > Hello John, > > is +/- 508.00 instead of 508.50 an option ? > That way we would have you and WE2XVY (on 507.985) in the same WSPR > window ? > > 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > > Quoting John Andrews : > >> I will run a WSPR beacon on 508.500 kHz tonight from 2330 to 0300 UTC. >> That's a dial frequency of 507.000 kHz. Reports are welcome. >> >> John Andrews, WE2XGR/3 > > > > Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.5/1978 - Release Date: 03/01/09 07:04:00 > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf05.mx.aol.com (rly-mf05.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.175]) by air-mf06.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMF061-95f49b500e63b3; Mon, 09 Mar 2009 07:43:58 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf05.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF055-95f49b500e63b3; Mon, 09 Mar 2009 07:43:37 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LgdsH-0004MY-Ax for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Mar 2009 11:42:25 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LgdsG-0004MP-V8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Mar 2009 11:42:24 +0000 Received: from ttsmtp-2.cpwnetworks.com ([62.24.128.243] helo=ttsmtp.cpwnetworks.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LgdsG-0001Q1-A9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Mar 2009 11:42:24 +0000 X-Path: TalkTalk-smtp X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqAGADidtElZ8IJs/2dsb2JhbACCJSyBaIRKgj8GxSOEBQY Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([89.240.130.108]) by ttsmtp.cpwnetworks.com with SMTP; 09 Mar 2009 11:42:18 +0000 Message-ID: <003e01c9a0ac$19a7dba0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 11:42:16 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: MF HF Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003B_01C9A0AC.18BE3EF0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01C9A0AC.18BE3EF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Nw cq on 502.6 khz also active on 5406 khz on CW all callers welcome on both= bands. I have worked some nice DX on the 5 mhz band recently. Work xband if necessary de mal/g3kev ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01C9A0AC.18BE3EF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Nw cq on 502.6 khz also active on 5406 khz=20= on CW=20 all callers welcome on both bands. I have worked some  nice DX on the 5= mhz=20 band recently.
Work xband if necessary
de mal/g3kev
 
------=_NextPart_000_003B_01C9A0AC.18BE3EF0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc03.mx.aol.com (rly-dc03.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.32]) by air-dc01.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC014-b1449ca73f01ca; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 14:12:19 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc03.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC038-b1449ca73f01ca; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 14:12:01 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LmXZW-0001VG-KT for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 18:11:26 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LmXZW-0001V7-2X for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 18:11:26 +0000 Received: from [193.252.22.192] (helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LmXZS-0000R0-GT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 18:11:25 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3626.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id E35FF7000086 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 19:11:16 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.50.116]) by mwinf3626.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 36FD77000085 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 19:11:16 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20090325181116225.36FD77000085@mwinf3626.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <82AC635A6C9F4BADB9DB66442C226E0F@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <864ED1778706409D9A640FF89C5F22C7@Silver> <35BC7A5BC84143BB916FEAA9FA0B67CF@AGB> <6F3FEF77C5114A42BB288377EFF89835@2a2d7ed321c6425> <4C20F995A547459D94F4739B09D1441F@DR2> In-Reply-To: <4C20F995A547459D94F4739B09D1441F@DR2> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 18:11:15 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8064.206 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8064.206 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: Re: LF: Re: AW: WSPR G0NBD 502.4 DIAL NOW TILL LATER POSS OVER NIGHT Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00E1_01C9AD75.1674EBF0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE,LINES_OF_YELLING, LINES_OF_YELLING_2,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME,UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_00E1_01C9AD75.1674EBF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dave Thanks for the reports .. Andy ku4xr missed the window=20 so running again tonight .. wx is stable .. I will see if it trips=20 from now (1800) till 2400 .. but will maintain tx until 0100 see 9 sync pulses .. good signal ??=20 holding at 150 watts carrier so far .. I think the 120 sec tx period=20 tends to dry things out and change the tune.. swr was 2.5 :1 when i check= ed after the run .. started virtually 1:1 .1=20 Making hay while the sun (doesn't shine) TAKE 2 =20 =20 G0NBD 502.4 DIAL NOW TILL LATER POSS OVER NIGHT=20 =20 Tnx- G .. From: dave.riley3=20 Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 1:20 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Cc: 600MRG=20 Subject: LF: Re: AW: WSPR G0NBD 502.4 DIAL NOW TILL LATER POSS OVER NIGHT QSL G0NBD 090325 0050 9 -21 1.5 0.503938 G0NBD IO83 13 Hello Graham, You still had 10 DBs to spare for a decode!!! Try 2 milliwatts... Looks like 155,700 miles per watt... Good on ya... PSE QSL VIA E-MAIL... ( hi hi ) Dave @ WD2XSH/17 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Beckmann, Gerhard=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 7:47 PM Subject: LF: AW: WSPR G0NBD 502.4 DIAL NOW TILL LATER POSS OVER NIGHT =20 Hello Graham, =20 nice signal here in JN59LN =20 2338 -17 1.8 0.503980 -1 G0NBD IO83 13 =20 Vy 73 de Gerhard / DK6NI =20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =20 =20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacks= heep.org] Im Auftrag von Graham Gesendet: Dienstag, 24. M=E4rz 2009 23:35 An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Betreff: LF: WSPR G0NBD 502.4 DIAL NOW TILL LATER POSS OVER NIGHT=20 =20 Making hay while the sun (doesn't shine)=20 =20 G0NBD 502.4 DIAL NOW TILL LATER POSS OVER NIGHT=20 =20 Tnx- G .. =20 =20 =20 =20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.5.283 / Virus Database: 270.11.27/2021 - Release Date: 03/24/09 1= 6:00:00 ------=_NextPart_000_00E1_01C9AD75.1674EBF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Dave

 

Thanks=20 for the  reports  .. Andy ku4xr missed the  window=20

so=20 running again tonight .. wx is stable .. I will see if it  trips=20

from=20 now (1800) till 2400  .. but will maintain tx  until=20 0100

 

see=20 9 sync pulses .. good  signal ??

 

holding=20 at 150 watts carrier so far .. I think the  120 sec tx period=20

tends=20 to  dry things out and  change the  tune.. swr was 2.5 :1 whe= n i=20 checked

after=20 the  run .. started virtually  1:1 .1

 

 

Making =20 hay while the  sun (doesn't shine)  TAKE 2 =20  

 

G0NBD=20 502.4 DIAL NOW TILL LATER POSS OVER NIGHT=20

 

Tnx-=20 G ..


Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 1:20 AM
Cc: 600MRG
Subject: LF: Re: AW: WSPR G0NBD 502.4 DIAL NOW TILL LATER POSS O= VER=20 NIGHT

QSL G0NBD
 
 
090325 0050   9 -21  1.5 &nb= sp;=20 0.503938  G0NBD IO83 13
 
 
Hello Graham,
 
You still had 10 DBs to spare for a decode!!! Tr= y 2=20 milliwatts...
 
Looks like 155,700 miles per=20 watt...
 
Good on ya... PSE QSL VIA E-MAIL... ( hi hi=20 )
 
 
Dave @ WD2XSH/17
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Beckmann, Gerhard
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 7:47=20 PM
Subject: LF: AW: WSPR G0NBD 502.4 D= IAL=20 NOW TILL LATER POSS OVER NIGHT

 

Hello=20 Graham,

 

nice=20 signal here in JN59LN

 

2338=20  -17  1.8   0.503980 -1 G0NBD IO83=20 13

 

Vy 73=20= de=20 Gerhard  /  DK6NI

 

= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

 

=  <= /FONT>

Von: owner-= rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= ] Im Auftrag von <= /SPAN>Graham
Gesendet: Dienstag, 24. M=E4rz 2009=20 23:35
An: rsgb_= lf_group@blacksheep.org
Betreff: LF: WSPR G0NBD 502.4 DIAL NOW=20 TILL LATER POSS OVER NIGHT

 

Making =20 hay while the  sun (doesn't shine)=20

 

G0NBD=20 502.4 DIAL NOW TILL LATER POSS OVER NIGHT=20

 

Tnx-=20 G ..

 

 

 

 =


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------=_NextPart_000_00E1_01C9AD75.1674EBF0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma06.mx.aol.com (rly-ma06.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.50]) by air-ma09.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMA093-8b449aafe9e241; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 16:31:29 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma06.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA066-8b449aafe9e241; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 16:31:12 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LdtFN-0000r9-Ty for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 21:30:53 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LdtFN-0000r0-HJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 21:30:53 +0000 Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.44]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LdtFM-0005dq-QP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 21:30:53 +0000 Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (smtpshost02.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.75]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 426A751C007 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 22:30:45 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id D21CCF3863 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 22:30:44 +0100 (CET) Received: from webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.242.4]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id C52F9F3862 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 22:30:44 +0100 (CET) Received: by webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 1500155C0; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 22:30:44 +0100 (CET) Received: from 93.215-136-217.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (93.215-136-217.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [217.136.215.93]) by webmail4.kuleuven.be (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 22:30:44 +0100 Message-ID: <20090301223044.8i4kbe2osr5wco8o@webmail4.kuleuven.be> Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 22:30:44 +0100 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <49AAF908.7040906@charter.net> In-Reply-To: <49AAF908.7040906@charter.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 217.136.215.93 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WE2XGR/3 WSPR tonight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello John, is +/- 508.00 instead of 508.50 an option ? That way we would have you and WE2XVY (on 507.985) in the same WSPR window ? 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T Quoting John Andrews : > I will run a WSPR beacon on 508.500 kHz tonight from 2330 to 0300 UTC. > That's a dial frequency of 507.000 kHz. Reports are welcome. > > John Andrews, WE2XGR/3 Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da07.mx.aol.com (rly-da07.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.81]) by air-da08.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA084-a8049cc20b2b0; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 20:41:37 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da07.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA078-a8049cc20b2b0; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 20:41:26 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ln07Q-00062T-Cv for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 00:40:20 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ln07P-00062K-5f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 00:40:19 +0000 Received: from smtp3.wanadoo.co.uk ([193.252.22.156] helo=smtp3.freeserve.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ln07M-00029I-2h for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 00:40:19 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3213.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id B75007000085 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 01:40:08 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.61.160]) by mwinf3213.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 0A6967000082 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 01:40:07 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20090327004008427.0A6967000082@mwinf3213.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: References: <5467B2F044F54A7980C65F62409256D3@AGB> In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 00:40:07 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8064.206 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8064.206 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Multi-function beacon > TX Prog < Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0158_01C9AE74.93B08BB0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0158_01C9AE74.93B08BB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Beacon TX software now also located in files section of uk500khz, click link= to view and download ....=20 http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/multi-function-beacon-by-andy-g4= jnt Green and Blue time slots may be accessed and viewed on line rolling dis= play of signal=20 http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html DK6NI is also monitoring the frequency=20 tnx- G .. From: Andy Talbot=20 Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 1:36 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: Multi-function beacon That listing was 5.29MHz to prove the S/W - it shows the power and tone freq= uencies of all three - RAL/WES/ORK on the TA path. Don't forget to offset the time :-) Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/3/14 Graham Dave, >>> Sample of 5290kc. over last night.<<< Is this from 5290 or 503.7 ....... ?? Graham ..=20 From: dave.riley3=20 Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 12:08 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Cc: 600MRG=20 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Multi-function beacon Andy, beacons, Looks like the beacon program is up and running correctly as 5 mhz shows r= elative sigs and frequency counts. Last night conditions here were very poor for T/A on 600m, even with this=20= broad high pressure area that helped keep the noise down. Even DI2AM was ver= y weak and SM6BHZ did not decode. So I will run it again on you tonight, but I did see remnanats of what loo= ks like a letter K during the beacon transmission times from you ( in ARGO Q= RSS3 )... Sample of 5290kc. over last night. 2009 03 14 03 00 47.51 39.97 36.06 23.91 0.00 1495.70 1494.14 0.00 2009 03 14 03 15 34.12 37.03 31.32 23.36 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 14 03 30 33.87 30.14 35.05 29.91 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 14 03 45 30.91 26.89 26.38 23.12 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 14 04 00 32.25 44.39 25.68 24.24 0.00 0.00 1494.14 0.00 2009 03 14 04 15 40.13 39.54 35.79 24.24 0.00 1495.51 1494.14 0.00 2009 03 14 04 30 44.71 42.47 29.35 30.72 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 14 04 45 33.16 37.11 35.32 23.03 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 14 05 00 48.07 46.44 34.46 25.30 0.00 1495.90 1494.14 0.00 2009 03 14 05 15 43.12 47.39 30.40 23.83 0.00 1495.70 1494.14 0.00 2009 03 14 05 30 48.13 31.83 37.48 26.50 0.00 1495.70 0.00 0.00 2009 03 14 05 45 47.11 42.90 37.04 22.88 0.00 1495.90 1494.34 0.00 2009 03 14 06 00 28.69 30.99 30.46 23.66 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 14 06 15 41.04 31.09 29.58 23.29 0.00 1495.90 0.00 0.00 The 'red' station usually seems the strongest on the graph... TNX Dave @ /17 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Andy Talbot=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org ; uk_beacons@yahoogroups.com=20 Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 5:57 AM Subject: LF: Re: Multi-function beacon Just a reminder to all - this beacon is still going, and will probably c= ontinue to do so until further notice. A few listeners have downloaded the= software, and thanks to all (you know who your are :-) for the plots / list= ings. I am not in a position to compile them, so don't expect revelations,= but Gerhard / DK6NI has been monitoring pretty well continuously, and has= plotted some deep fades / enhancements measured over hours with depths in t= he regions of 30dB. Are there any stations in the US in a position to monitor ? =20 Please note that if using the recommended 5meg beacon monitoring softwar= e you'll either have to set the delta time to -240 (or -180 or -120) seconds= or adjust the PC clock by two, three or four minutes to cope with the four=20= minute offset I'm running it on. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com =20 2009/3/6 Andy Talbot I've now started transmitting a timed beacon signal on 503.7kHz that=20= is identical in format to that of GB3SSS operated over the winter months of=20= the last two years from Poldhu on 1.9 and 3.5MHz, and has a similar signal= structure to the 5MHz beacons, GB3RAL, WES and ORK. These all have an init= ial CW ident and stepped power levels for aural reception, and a precisely d= efined period of full-power plain carrier for S/N measurements. =20 See http://www.rsgb-spectrumforum.org.uk/5mhz%20beacons.htm for the= complete 5MHz signal structure. For this MF transmission, as on GB3SSS, t= he pulsed sounder sequence of the 5MHz beacons is replaced with a PSK31 mess= age which lasts from 30s to approx 48 seconds after the start Auto Monitoring software writen by G3PLX is available for monitoring t= hese beacons, it measures signal to noise during the carrier period and save= s to file as well as plotting the last 40 hours worth of measurements. The software can be downloaded from http://www.rsgb.org/spectrumforum= /hf/beaconauto.php . PSK31 data can be copied with Digipan, Fldigi, PSK31S= BW or a host of other packages. TIMING=20 The 503.7kHz transmission takes place every 15 minutes at 4 minutes pa= st the quarter hour. =20 ie each transmission starts at xx:04, xx:19, xx:34 and xx:49 This t= ime slot has been selected so that the transmission do not interfere with my= continuous ongoing reception of the 5Mhz beacons - the active antenna used=20= for these is overloaded by the 500kHz signal and I have already lost data wh= en the WSPR beacon transmission coincided with one of the monitoring windows= . NOTE If using the G3PLX software, this only monitors for the three 5= MHz beacons at 00, 01 and 02 minutes. SO IT WILL BE NECESSARY TO FRIG THE SOFTWARE to monitor this transmis= sion at the 04 minute point. The necessary alteration can be done by first= ly setting your PC clock accurately to the correct time, then setting the Tr= ack Time box to -240 (minus 240 seconds). This will make the software look=20= for this transmission during the time window it thinks it would be receiving= GB3RAL, and log the MF transmission during the first minute, on the red tra= ce, as if it were GB3RAL=20 The beacon uses the identical hardware to the WSPR transmissions of th= e last few weeks, with the the only change being a reprogramming of the cont= roller PIC. In fact the very same hardware was previously loaned to the Po= ldhu club for their beacons, with the only difference being a change to the=20= final Low Pass filter on the output of the broadband PA. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.13/2001 - Release Date: 03/13/09= 05:59:00 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.13/2001 - Release Date: 03/14/09 0= 6:54:00 ------=_NextPart_000_0158_01C9AE74.93B08BB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Beacon TX software now also located in file= s=20 section of uk500khz, click link to
view and  download ....
 
 
Green and Blue time slots may be  acce= ssed and=20 viewed  on line  rolling  display of  signal
 
 
DK6NI is also monitoring the frequency=20
 
tnx- G ..

Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 1:36 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: Multi-function beacon

That listing was 5.29MHz to prove the S/W - it shows the power and tone= =20 frequencies of all three - RAL/WES/ORK on the TA path.
 
Don't forget to offset the time :-)

Andy  G4JNT
= www.g4jnt.com


2009/3/14 Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
Dave, >>> Sample of 5290kc. over last=20 night.<<<
 
Is this  from 5290  or  503.7 .= ......=20 ??
 
Graham ..
 
 

Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 12:08 PM
Cc: 600MRG
Subject: LF: Re: Re: Multi-function beacon

Andy, beacons,
 
Looks like the beacon program is up and runnin= g=20 correctly as 5 mhz shows relative sigs and frequency=20 counts.
 
Last night conditions here were very poor for=20= T/A on=20 600m, even with this broad high pressure area that helped keep the noise d= own.=20 Even DI2AM was very weak and SM6BHZ did not decode.
 
So I will run it again on you tonight, but I d= id see=20 remnanats of what looks like a letter K during the beacon transmission tim= es=20 from you ( in ARGO QRSS3 )...
 
 
Sample of 5290kc. over last=20 night.
 
2009 03 14 03 00 47.51 39.97 36.06 23.91 0.00=20 1495.70 1494.14 0.00
2009 03 14 03 15 34.12 37.03 31.32 23.36 0.00 0.00= =20 0.00 0.00
2009 03 14 03 30 33.87 30.14 35.05 29.91 0.00 0.00 0.00=20 0.00
2009 03 14 03 45 30.91 26.89 26.38 23.12 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
20= 09=20 03 14 04 00 32.25 44.39 25.68 24.24 0.00 0.00 1494.14 0.00
2009 03 14 0= 4 15=20 40.13 39.54 35.79 24.24 0.00 1495.51 1494.14 0.00
2009 03 14 04 30 44.7= 1=20 42.47 29.35 30.72 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
2009 03 14 04 45 33.16 37.11 35.3= 2=20 23.03 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
2009 03 14 05 00 48.07 46.44 34.46 25.30 0.00= =20 1495.90 1494.14 0.00
2009 03 14 05 15 43.12 47.39 30.40 23.83 0.00 1495= .70=20 1494.14 0.00
2009 03 14 05 30 48.13 31.83 37.48 26.50 0.00 1495.70 0.00= =20 0.00
2009 03 14 05 45 47.11 42.90 37.04 22.88 0.00 1495.90 1494.34=20 0.00
2009 03 14 06 00 28.69 30.99 30.46 23.66 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
20= 09=20 03 14 06 15 41.04 31.09 29.58 23.29 0.00 1495.90 0.00=20 0.00
 
The 'red' station usually seems the strongest=20= on the=20 graph...
 
TNX
 
Dave @ /17
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 5:57= =20 AM
Subject: LF: Re: Multi-function=20 beacon

Just a reminder to all - this beacon is still going, and will proba= bly=20 continue to do so until further notice.   A few listeners have= =20 downloaded the software, and thanks to all (you know who your are :-) fo= r=20 the plots / listings.   I am not in a position to compile them= , so=20 don't expect revelations, but Gerhard  /  DK6NI has been=20 monitoring pretty well continuously, and has plotted some deep= =20 fades / enhancements measured over hours with depths in the regions of=20 30dB.
 
Are there any stations in the US in a position to monitor=20 ?  
 
Please note that if using the recommended 5meg beacon monitoring=20 software you'll either have to set the delta time to -240 (or -180 or -1= 20)=20 seconds or adjust the PC clock by two, three or four minutes to cope wit= h=20 the four minute offset I'm running it on.
 
Andy  G4JNT

 
2009/3/6 Andy Talbot <andy.g4jn= t@googlemail.com>
I've now started transmitting a timed  beacon signal on= =20 503.7kHz that is identical in format to that of GB3SSS operated o= ver=20 the winter months of the last two years  from Poldhu on 1.9=20= and=20 3.5MHz,  and has a similar signal structure to the 5MHz beac= ons,=20 GB3RAL, WES and ORK.  These all have an initial CW ident=20 and stepped power levels for aural reception, and a precisel= y=20 defined period of full-power plain carrier for S/N=20 measurements.  
See   http://www.rsgb-spectrumf= orum.org.uk/5mhz%20beacons.htm =20 for the complete 5MHz  signal structure.  For this MF=20 transmission, as on GB3SSS, the pulsed sounder sequence of the 5MHz=20 beacons is replaced with a PSK31 message which lasts from 30s to=20 approx 48 seconds after the start
 
Auto Monitoring software writen by G3PLX is available for monitor= ing=20 these beacons, it measures signal to noise during the carrier period a= nd=20 saves to file as well as plotting the last 40 hours worth of=20 measurements.
The software can be downloaded from  htt= p://www.rsgb.org/spectrumforum/hf/beaconauto.php .  =20 PSK31 data can be copied with Digipan, Fldigi, PSK31SBW or a host of o= ther=20 packages.
 
TIMING
The 503.7kHz transmission takes place every 15 minutes at 4 minut= es=20 past the quarter hour. 
ie each transmission starts at xx:04, xx:19, xx:34 a= nd=20 xx:49    This time slot has been selected= so=20 that the transmission do not interfere with my continuous ongoing=20 reception of the 5Mhz beacons - the active antenna used for these is=20 overloaded by the 500kHz signal and I have already lost data when the=20= WSPR=20 beacon transmission coincided with one of the monitoring windows.
 
NOTE   If using the G3PLX software, this=20 only monitors for the three 5MHz beacons at  00, 01 and 02=20 minutes.
SO IT WILL BE NECESSARY TO FRIG THE SOFTWARE=20  to monitor this transmission at the 04 minute=20 point.   The necessary alteration can be done by firstl= y=20 setting your PC clock accurately to the correct time, then settin= g=20 the Track Time box to -240 (minus 240 seconds).  This will make t= he=20 software look for this transmission during the time window it thi= nks=20 it would be receiving GB3RAL, and log the MF transmission during=20= the=20 first minute, on the red trace, as if it were GB3RAL 
 
The beacon uses the identical hardware to the WSPR transmiss= ions=20 of the last few weeks, with the the only change being=20 a reprogramming of the controller PIC.   In fact the ve= ry=20 same hardware was previously loaned to the Poldhu club for their beaco= ns,=20 with the only difference being a change to the final Low Pass filter o= n=20 the output of the broadband PA.
 


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------=_NextPart_000_0158_01C9AE74.93B08BB0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de06.mx.aol.com (rly-de06.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.142]) by air-de02.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDE023-4de49ce05891d8; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 07:10:16 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de06.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE061-4de49ce05891d8; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 07:10:03 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LnWPd-0004p0-Qn for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 11:09:17 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LnWPd-0004or-EH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 11:09:17 +0000 Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com ([209.85.146.182]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LnWPb-0007lm-Fi for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 11:09:17 +0000 Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id l24so811377waf.4 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 04:08:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=8qQ78p5UQhgQRiKA++9S9dA91EqYQF8Y1tjEkyqumrM=; b=ip2ytIcptWemnP2LW0G7HWTPEa73ZjXvsk50r7Hrk77X3qGsLhI34+ox20uquYzMbS eSsyxw1TFwBbD39C9dRtvlWyJ0FyGyGraawPQTsMJMZE91p1shk93dYUxF56urg32WHb WuF69vVWdm+AKTdBjFeGtrjnVnnuXnSjyVFhA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=x3Cz6ZAPH3Bmwfj9U4PmJ+62C8maLFryY0yjYom96e/b+snXeVaQcJId9PlkwhX+M0 QmJXEmlUIoo1wyr169/BdXZ86086oC5JmrZXS6zvcsDg0xj9fqGLsoLBQq7D5goxf9ma USYJgLrmlCKcgvB+QYVdGmzvjagosUIjcXZeg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.114.75.1 with SMTP id x1mr2114975waa.107.1238238535108; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 04:08:55 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 11:08:55 +0000 Message-ID: <5931f8db0903280408t333fb809h479647c296cca296@mail.gmail.com> From: Harry Woodhouse To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_00_10=0.642,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: G3MFW 137 test Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636417ea50847c404662be06b X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m267.2 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : fail X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --001636417ea50847c404662be06b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Oh dear! What a terrible day! Gales here in Cornwall force 8 (85 Km/h). Impossible to get the mast up, so tied the ends of the ant. to some bushes. In addition awful QRM all over the band - sounded like huge electric motor locally. Terrible arcing from the ant in the rain & hail, even with reduced power to 440 watts DC input, 3 amps RF. Gave up at 10.30 GMT. Many thanks to F6BWO who was OO here between the QRM, and we had a QSO. Sorry DL2HRE, I did not read your E-mail till too late. My "proper" computer is in the office, not the shack. I'll tell the group when I am on again. regards, Harry G3MFW --001636417ea50847c404662be06b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Oh dear! What a terrible day! Gales here in Cornwall force 8 (85 Km/h). Impo= ssible to get the mast up, so tied the ends of the ant. to some bushes. In a= ddition awful QRM all over the band - sounded like huge electric motor local= ly. Terrible arcing from the ant in the rain & hail, even with reduced p= ower to 440 watts DC input, 3 amps RF. Gave up at 10.30 GMT. Many thanks to=20= F6BWO who was OO here between the QRM, and we had a QSO. Sorry DL2HRE, I did= not read your E-mail till too late. My "proper" computer is in th= e office, not the shack. I'll tell the group when I am on again. regards= , Harry G3MFW
--001636417ea50847c404662be06b-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh07.mx.aol.com (rly-mh07.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.143]) by air-mh03.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMH032-be849be9c3bf2; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 14:37:26 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh07.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH078-be849be9c3bf2; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 14:36:44 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LjHfZ-0005PQ-9c for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 18:36:13 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LjHfY-0005PH-6q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 18:36:12 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-1-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.52]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LjHfV-0004se-Hs for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 18:36:12 +0000 X-Trace: 168311188/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.59.96/None/g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.59.96 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Microsoft Office Outlook 11Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AosJAO84vklYajtg/2dsb2JhbACCJitTRIU5fYNbyBkHg3gG X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,374,1233532800"; d="gif'147?scan'147,208,217,147";a="168311188" Received: from 88-106-59-96.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.59.96]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 16 Mar 2009 18:35:03 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <009001c9a588$7eb02c60$6401a8c0@asus> <00e001c9a5a7$f07216a0$6401a8c0@asus> <826BA6086575402A8C87062492069F5A@AGB> <004501c9a623$a4bf81d0$6401a8c0@asus> <2ED02F4327204E3C903828F9E18AA72B@AGB> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 18:35:03 -0000 Message-ID: <001e01c9a665$ebeac870$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <2ED02F4327204E3C903828F9E18AA72B@AGB> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AcmmXHu9mo2JKxm1Qb6tlHCneKpE9QACGHgg X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001F_01C9A665.EBEAC870" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01C9A665.EBEAC870 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0020_01C9A665.EBED3970" ------=_NextPart_001_0020_01C9A665.EBED3970 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Graham, LF, The original HTML Code for the 2 minute refresh is still inserted into the page format, so upload is 30 minute intervals with Syncback & 2 minute refresh. I have left the refresh in case I revert back to the original grabber page. I will look at changing it if I continue to use the beacon chart upload. I would like to have feedback from the LF group regarding the page, if you check it out periodically, is it useful to you, what are you looking for. You can view the chart on my web site at :- http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html 73 Gary - G4WGT. _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham Sent: 16 March 2009 17:20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software Hi Gary, The page seemed to refresh quite often ... are there two settings ? G .. From: Gary - G4WGT Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:40 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software Hi Graham, LF, You wrote :- >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute intervals. <<< that could be backed off to 15 mins as the beacon only sends every 15 ?? I mentioned in my previous mail to ignore the text on the page as it was originally for grabber 1 for when I upgrade the web site (to a new design & better navigation etc), also mentioned is that upload is every 30 minutes. If the uploaded chart proves useful or interesting to operators & viewers then I will change the text & make it a permanent feature for the foreseeable future. BTW :- For those of you who are not familiar with the chart - The RED trace is Andy's (G4JNT) beacon signal & the BLACK trace is the noise level at my QTH. The Blue & GREEN are not in use & should be ignored on this chart as they are for the other beacons used when monitoring on the 5MHz allocation. Cheers, Gary - G4WGT _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham Sent: 15 March 2009 22:17 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software Gary.. That looks good ... 0500 looks best time for a qso .. see you then Smile emoticon >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute intervals. <<< that could be backed off to 15 mins as the beacon only sends every 15 ?? the 15 db over the noise in day time is the same at this qth .. looks like the big dips round 1900 where just when we where testing .. typical hihi tnx- G .. From: Gary - G4WGT Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 7:55 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: RE: Syncback software LF, I have now got the software, Syncback running correctly (I think). The purpose of this is to upload the chart from Andy's beacon as received here to my web site periodically, ie. every 30 minutes. I now have a receiver running 24/7 monitoring Andy,s beacon on 503.7KHz. You can view the chart on my web site at :- http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html For the moment ignore the text on the page as it is originally designed to use with the 500KHz grabber when I renew my web site design. If it is a useful upload I will make it a permanent feature but may have to extend the frequency coverage of grabber 1 so not to overload the PC with operations which will cause the PC to struggle. Let me have your comments please. 73 Gary - G4WGT. _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT Sent: 15 March 2009 16:10 To: LF -RSGB LF Group Subject: LF: Syncback software Hi LF, If anyone is using Syncback software & can help, please. I am tying to upload a file to my website who's filename does not change, only the file size changes. I tried to do it with Argo-upload but failed so I downloaded Syncback & still failing. Syncback gives me the following message :- ********************************** Can connect, but unable to change to destination directory: /chart01.bmp:not a directory ********************************** The Syncback help does not give me the answer. Any help will be appreciated Or Will Argo-Upload do it? Or Is there something else to do it? Thanks in anticipation, 73, Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. _____ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.13/2001 - Release Date: 03/14/09 06:54:00 _____ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.15/2003 - Release Date: 03/15/09 14:07:00 ------=_NextPart_001_0020_01C9A665.EBED3970 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Graham, LF,

&nb= sp;

The original HTML Code for the 2 minute refresh is still inserted into the page format, so upload is 30 minute intervals with Syncback & 2 minute refres= h. I have left the refresh in case I revert back to the original grabber page.=20= I will look at changing it if I continue to use the beacon chart upload.<= /o:p>

&nb= sp;

I would like to have feedback from the LF group regarding the page, if you check it=20= out periodically, is it useful to you, what are you looking for.

&nb= sp;

You can view the chart on my web site at :-

&nb= sp;

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/g= rabber3.html

&nb= sp;

73<= /o:p>

&nb= sp;

Gary = 211; G4WGT.

&nb= sp;

&nb= sp;

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham
Sent: 16 March 2009 17:20
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software

 

Hi Gary,

 

The page seemed to  refresh quite often ... ar= e there two settings ?

 

G ..

 

From: Gary - G4WGT

Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:40 AM

Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software

 

Hi Graham, LF,

&nb= sp;

You wrote :-

>>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute intervals. <<< that could be backed off to  15 mins as the beacon only&nb= sp; sends every 15 ??

&nb= sp;

I mentioned in my previous mail to ignore the text on the page as it was originally for grabber 1 for when I upgrade the web site (to a new design &a= mp; better navigation etc), also mentioned is that upload is every 30 minutes.

&nb= sp;

If the uploaded chart proves useful or interesting to operators & viewers then=20= I will change the text & make it a permanent feature for the foreseeable future.

&nb= sp;

BTW :-

&nb= sp;

For those of you  who are not familiar with the chart –

&nb= sp;

The RED trace is Andy’s (G4JNT) beacon signal & the BLACK trace is the noi= se level at my QTH.

&nb= sp;

The Blue & GREEN are not in use & should be ignored on this chart as they are for the other beacons used when monitoring on the 5MHz allocation.

&nb= sp;

Cheers,<= o:p>

&nb= sp;

Gary – G4WGT

&nb= sp;

&nb= sp;

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham
Sent: 15 March 2009 22:17
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software

 

Gary<= /span>..

 

That looks good  ... 0500 looks best time for=20= a qso .. see you then =3D"Smile 

 

>>>Uploa= d is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute intervals. <<< t= hat could be backed off to  15 mins as the beacon only  sends every 15= ??

 

the  15 db o= ver the noise in day time is the  same at this qth .. looks like the big dips round 1900  where just when we where testing ..  typical hihi

 

tnx- G .. =

 

Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 7:55 PM

Subject: LF: RE: Syncback software

 

LF,=

&nb= sp;

I have now got the software, Syncback running correctly (I think).

&nb= sp;

The purpose of this is to upload the chart from Andy’s beacon as received here to my web site periodically, ie. every 30 minutes.

&nb= sp;

I now have a receiver running 24/7 monitoring Andy,s beacon on 503.7KHz.

&nb= sp;

You can view the chart on my web site at :-

&nb= sp;

http://myweb.tiscali.= co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html

&nb= sp;

For the moment ignore the text on the page as it is originally designed to use with=20= the 500KHz grabber when I renew my web site design. If it is a useful upload I w= ill make it a permanent feature but may have to extend the frequency coverage of grabber 1 so not to overload the PC with operations which will cause the PC=20= to struggle.

&nb= sp;

Let me have your comments please.

&nb= sp;

73<= /o:p>

&nb= sp;

Gary – G4WGT.

&nb= sp;

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT
Sent: 15 March 2009 16:10
To: LF -RSGB LF Group
Subject: LF: Syncback softwar= e

 

Hi LF,=

 =

If anyone is using Syncback sof= tware & can help, please.

 =

I am tying to upload a file to=20= my website who’s filename does not change, only the file size changes. I tried to= do it with Argo-upload but failed so I downloaded Syncback & still failing.=

 =

Syncback gives me the following= message :-

 =

*******************************= ***

Can connect, but unable to chan= ge to destination directory:

/chart01.bmp:not a directory

*******************************= ***

The Syncback help does not give= me the answer.

 =

Any help will be appreciated

 =

Or=

 =

Will Argo-Upload do it?

 =

Or=

 =

Is there something else to do i= t?

 =

Thanks in anticipation,

 =

73,

 

Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.=

 


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------=_NextPart_001_0020_01C9A665.EBED3970-- ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01C9A665.EBEAC870 Content-Type: image/gif; name="image001.gif" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-ID: R0lGODlhEwATALMPAPXv3v3pTvDHOei2K9u4a9qoLunPkLGLMdOZKfvbQMeyl5p4J+7Jbreb XoAyGAAAACH5BAEAAA8ALAAAAAATABMAAASu8EkJDBNjMAOmf5UgJEGQJBj3AVfpuslAdBRD vu8p04YQCIuFrzQIDgQFA2i4AAAWruYTgwiVFopnNCsUICy3hUMBvY67hcYwIHaU2Q43ZnAY uIDCUixYmC8GNzgmJyIZBQcXgYMnKIUDCA09jA4FgCcFCA4ZdFlHl5SbmQiGBx0GR0iZcXEI o5wUBH1ImK2tGQcNNCCxm70Dh7krBq2VvwgHB1kfExUNBwu4yh4RADs= ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01C9A665.EBEAC870-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db09.mx.aol.com (rly-db09.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.84]) by air-db01.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDB014-ae549b03999284; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 15:44:36 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db09.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB093-ae549b03999284; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 15:44:11 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LfKPp-0001B8-Jv for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 20:43:37 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LfKPp-0001Az-2k for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 20:43:37 +0000 Received: from vms173017pub.verizon.net ([206.46.173.17]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LfKPn-00029q-Qy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 20:43:37 +0000 Received: from DR2 ([71.184.212.10]) by vms173017.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KG100DQMW87BRO9@vms173017.mailsrvcs.net> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 14:43:21 -0600 (CST) Message-id: From: "dave.riley3" To: Cc: "600MRG" References: <000a01c99a91$a54a1180$1402a8c0@e7010> <7.0.1.0.1.20090305091934.0181aca8@magma.ca> Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 15:43:19 -0500 MIME-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36 Subject: Re: LF: Deep copy... Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 >What is the expected ambient noise say > @ 600M one should expect?? > I then connected to the outside antenna with no external pre-amp or any > non > linear device and saw -117 dbm of noise across 10 khz. with a few weak and > floating predictable BB noises.. Like I say, just a look @ the neighboorhood in which we are engaged as stated above, there to see the DIFFERENCE between it and the outside noise... In today's case was -17 dbm delta... Tonight it may be -27 dbm or so... Lotsa places for weak signals to hide, even without Turin's theorem... It's not like I have to tweak the front end by aiming this loop at the sun, thence to a quiet place in the blue sky, and then @ the ground cuz I won't see 3 different relative noise levels like with the 2' dish @ 10ghz... Am only interested in knowing the difference between the receiver and the outside noise, pick your own parameters, say at the bandwidth that you like as zero degree K won't matter... Right now I can get away with a Darlington pair of point contact transistors biased high into class A and still have headroom to spare, as far as front end noise figure is concerned... The P-P Western Eklectic 417As are wasted here... But since the outside world is so appreciably more noisey then there must be a better treatment of the antenna farm short of a full blown Wullenwebber in order to ditch the noise... Why should a guy have to run 100 milliwatts when 10 will do?? We don't have an endless supply of carbon credits here in the colonies you know... For now the double balanced, biased 1N34s are fine... Tried 1N23As, no big deal... Like giving strawberrys to a donkey on 600M... TNX until the sound of Dave @ /17 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Talbot" To: Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 2:31 PM Subject: Re: LF: Deep copy... It all depends on your resolution bandwith which you don't specify. Pnoise = kTB With my SDR-IQ set to 190kHz span and 131072 point FFT, resolution bandwidth = 1.5Hz and Rx set to +10dB gain to get the best noise figure: -145dBm with a 50R load. With the Antenna connected this rises to -115dBm (measured at 1920 UTC) with no obvious lines or peaks contributing. If you normalise to the standard 2.5kHz noise measurement bandwidth, that equates to -112 (50R) and -82dBm.(antenna) respectively Thermal noise at reference temperature of 290K is -174dBm/Hz, so for 2.5kHz that gives -140dBm suggesting the noise figure of the SDR-IQ could be 140 - 112 = 28dB. It probably isn't this low as we're in the quantisation noise with no input signal, but a NF of 15 - 20dB would probably be a rough guesstimate. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/3/5 dave.riley3 : > Thanks to ALL who responded with quick and cogent findings... > > It has seemed for a time that with the receiver AGC and NBs OFF that I > generally can see a deeper signal, depending on conditions... > > The final audio filter assures that the program does not have to deal with > noise outside of the passband of interest... > > TNX > > > Here is today's gnawing question... What is the expected ambient noise say > @ 600M one should expect?? > Rural, City, Country, remote battery operated, etc. combinations... > Especially well away from AC neutral wires... > > Today I ran the input to the SDR-IQ into a 50 ohm load and set a long > integrate ( 64+ ) and saw approx -134 dbm of baseband noise with NO > signals... > > I then connected to the outside antenna with no external pre-amp or any > non > linear device and saw -117 dbm of noise across 10 khz. with a few weak and > floating predictable BB noises.. > > At night it is sure to be up to near -100 dbm depending on conditions and > noises present... > > What do YOU get for a noise difference between a terminated antenna input > and your regular receive antenna?? > > I'm about to place several e-probes about this place in order to mix and > match phase and amplitudes in order to see what net gain can be made to > the > SNR with the hope that the most offending noises will not be in the path > of > a desired signal... > > TNX and ain't this fun??? > > Dave @ WD2XSH/17 > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bill de Carle > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 9:58 AM > Subject: Re: LF: Deep copy... > At 09:25 PM 3/4/2009, you wrote: > > I seem to get best results while trying to pull signals out of the noise > when the AGC of the receiver is OFF as well as the Noise Blanker and Noise > reduction features being OFF... > > Do you concur?? > > Also setting a good audio filter to the passband of interest seems to > bypass > some heavy static hits as well... > > I've noticed that when doing HF frequency measurement tests (working to > the > nearest milliHertz) - turning off the AGC under high static conditions > seems > to improve the accuracy of the measurement, at least with the software I > use. One plausible explanation is that AGC action necessarily introduces > amplitude modulation (on all signals in the passband). When I process the > AGC'd signal with what amounts to a very narrow DSP filter the added > amplitude modulation shows up as apparent sidebands close-in on the signal > I'm trying to measure. If the power in those sidebands is comparable to > that of the signal whose frequency I'm looking for, the FFT algorithm > (which > assumes the real signal has the largest amplitude) gets confused and comes > up with an estimated frequency somewhere between the correct value and > that > of a nearby sideband. The effect is small however because the AGC pumping > action doesn't occur very fast so the added sidebands are seen to be only > some milliHertz away from the signal. The sidebands occur on both sides of > the "real" signal, so one might expect them to cancel out but in practice > they don't because the amount of error depends on where the "real" signal > falls with respect to the fixed frequency bins of the FFT. It should be > possible to model the AGC action of a particular receiver and compensate > for > it in the software. No doubt the phenomenon becomes less significant with > smaller FFT's or shorter integration times. Changing the AGC setting > between SLOW-FAST-OFF might help under some conditions. With QRSS-60 > signaling rates it can take a long time to find out which setting is > optimum, especially when band conditions are changing or the QSB period is > close to a bit time, hi! > > VE2IQ > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg11.mx.aol.com (rly-dg11.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.95]) by air-dg06.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDG064-60549b1a5ff2e6; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 17:39:02 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg11.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG116-60549b1a5ff2e6; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 17:38:57 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lfigf-0002rJ-1V for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 22:38:37 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lfigd-0002rA-Qa for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 22:38:35 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.151] helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lfigc-0006KT-Ko for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 22:38:35 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3526.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 3AFB01C00083 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 23:38:29 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.23.203]) by mwinf3526.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 83BC91C00082 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 23:38:28 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20090306223828539.83BC91C00082@mwinf3526.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <830D60A934B1493EA43771AE81385B76@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <0566EF6DE20B4249A3E74859BF9BA2C6@AGB> <9C03FBF153AB478A9B0DBC5580CF20D2@AGB> <28FA0F184B25444F8BA2F1EC5FC42C04@AGB> In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 22:38:27 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8064.206 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8064.206 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Multi-function beacon Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0154_01C99EAC.44776A50" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0154_01C99EAC.44776A50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Andy, =20 Thanks for the information, I can see the advantage of the phase reversal si= milar to the navy's chirp radar , pulse-width reduction. =20 The situation is a little convoluted, I was contacted by Robert Hemesley, w= ho has produced a software package that will display by scatter gram the re= turns from the 5 meg pulse system, prior to this Robert had been contacted=20= by Gerhard / DK6NI, with the view to propagation observations on 500 using= the system.=20 =20 I had a quick look at the system with the view to 'creating' a suitable be= acon tx to enable an investigation to take place, however, the pulse para= meter's where not clearly defined, my approach was to use the ma1723 and=20= linear amplifier to produce a beacon transmission from a simple wave file= .. not too high tech but would provide the simple time windows and changes= in carrier levels as defined. But now looks the pulse ranging aspect of the= system is beyond my existing station equipment. =20 The modification of the system looks to quite a task and I assume requires D= DS generation. I had the impression that the rx software measured the time= interval of the pulses and not the absolute time, allowing a normal 'rx sys= tem' to be used for the observation ? =20 Tnx - G ..=20 =20 =20 Nb =20 I have posted details of your beacon in various news groups etc and establis= hed a page on the uk500khz group, using your original post and added a req= uest, 'not to' send log files to the 5 meg group via email ....=20 From: Andy Talbot=20 Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 9:08 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: Multi-function beacon Graham -=20 I'm not sure I know what you are hoping to do with the sounder pulse. It=20= was incorporated into the 5MHz system to allow propagation investigations in= to multiple skywave hops and multipath, Its parameters were therefore set=20= at values that were a compromise between expected HF multipath parameters, a= nd what could reasonably be allowed for in terms of "necessary bandwidth". =20= While G3PLX did generate some data using the sounder, the idea was never wid= ely popular. In fact there has been recent mention of removing the sounder=20= sequence from at least one of the beacons. A short pulse is not really a g= ood choice, but with only a narrow bandwidth to play width, its the best tha= t could be done. A chirp or PN sequence would be a better solution. Are you hoping to be able to set up some sort of sounding system at MF? If= so, I suspect you're going to want to measure a different range of values a= nd a different waveform would fit the bill better. I know very little abou= t MF/HF propagation beyond what the amateur textbooks give, but suggest you=20= talk to G3PLX, G0MJW and others who do understand the subject very well. Whatever, I suspect you may be interested in accurately measuring the time d= elay changes over long paths, and for this, short pulses are not the answer.= Instead, coherent systems making use of phase information should do the j= ob. These days, its trivial to get sub-microsecond timing accuracy with an= y GPS receiver and I firmly believe this is the way to go.=20 It hasn't been widely made-use-of, but the RAL VHF beacons on 40/50/60/70MHz= , and GB3VHF on 144MHz all have a GPS timed sequence of once per second phas= e reversals as part of their transmission (JT65B, CW, carrier, reversals). =20= These reversals occur at a precise point referred to UTC, and anyone else c= an measure them, and relate to a local GPS reference. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/3/6 Graham OK Andy,=20 I was thinking more in terms of generating the pulse using 'audio' and no= t by hard keying .. but the 'area under the curve' looks a little 'thin' .= .pity .. the rest of the system could be 'constructed' using a audio edito= r .and sent via a ssb tx with alc 'off' .. how accurate is the start time r= equirements ?=20 tnx- G ..=20 From: Andy Talbot=20 Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 8:13 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: Multi-function beacon Not strictly -=20 Look at it in th efreqeuncy domain. A 500us pulse has its first zero at 2= 000/pi =3D 637Hz, so most of the energy is within 1300Hz bandwidth, and a su= bstantial part will pass though the Rx filter. It will be extended in time=20= and flattenned, but the detection algorithm finds the peak, in effect applyi= ng an inverse transform of the SSB filter. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com Nb the pulse width , 500uS .. that's a bit sharp for a ssb filter ,=20= only 1.5 cycles at 3 Khz ... ? ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.8/1987 - Release Date: 03/06/09=20= 07:20:00 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.8/1987 - Release Date: 03/06/09 07= :20:00 ------=_NextPart_000_0154_01C99EAC.44776A50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Andy,<= /SPAN>

 

Thanks= for the=20 information, I can see the advantage of the phase reversal similar to the na= vy=92s=20 chirp radar , pulse-width reduction.

 

The si= tuation is=20 a little convoluted, I was contacted by =  Robert Hemesley, who has produced a=20 software package that will display by scatter gram the  returns from the 5 meg pulse system,=20 prior to this Robert had been  contacted by  Gerhard / D= K6NI, with the  view to prop= agation observations on 500=20 using the system.

 

I had=20= a quick=20 look at the  system with the  view to =91creating=92 a sui= table beacon tx=20 to  enable an investigation to=   take place, however, the  pulse parameter=92s where no= t clearly=20 defined, my approach  was to  use the  ma1723 and&= nbsp; linear amplifier to  <= /SPAN>produce a beacon  tran= smission from a simple wave file ..=20 not too high tech but would provide the&nb= sp;=20 simple time windows and changes in carrier levels as defined. But now= =20 looks the pulse ranging aspect of the = ;=20 system is beyond my existing station equipment.

 

The mo= dification=20 of the system looks to quite a task and I assume requires DDS generation. I=20= had=20 the  impression that the rx software measured the  time interval o= f=20 the pulses and not the absolute time, allowing a normal 'rx system' to be us= ed=20 for the observation ?

 

Tnx=20= =96 G ..=20

 

 

Nb

 

I have= posted=20 details of your beacon in various news groups etc and established a page on=20 the  uk500khz group, using you= r  original post and added a= request, =91not=20 to=92 send log files to the 5 meg group via email ...


Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 9:08 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Multi-function beacon

Graham -
 
I'm not sure I know what you are hoping to do with the sounder=20 pulse.    It was incorporated into the 5MHz system to allow=20 propagation investigations into multiple skywave hops and multipath, &n= bsp;=20 Its parameters were therefore set at values that were a compromise between=20 expected HF multipath parameters, and what could reasonably be allowed for i= n=20 terms of "necessary bandwidth".  While G3PLX did generate som= e=20 data using the sounder, the idea was never widely popular.  In fac= t=20 there has been recent mention of removing the sounder sequence from at least= one=20 of the beacons.   A short pulse is not really a good choice, but w= ith=20 only a narrow bandwidth to play width, its the best that could be=20 done.   A chirp or PN sequence  would be a better solution.
 
Are you hoping to be able to set up some sort of sounding system at=20 MF?   If so, I suspect you're going to want to measure a different= =20 range of values and a different waveform would fit the bill better. &nb= sp;=20 I know very little about MF/HF propagation beyond what the amateur textbooks= =20 give, but suggest you talk to G3PLX, G0MJW and others who do understand the=20 subject very well.
 
Whatever, I suspect you may be interested in accurately measuring=20= the=20 time delay changes over long paths, and for this, short pulses are not = the=20 answer.   Instead, coherent systems making use of phase informatio= n=20 should do the job.   These days, its trivial to get=20 sub-microsecond timing accuracy with any GPS receiver and I firmly beli= eve=20 this is the way to go. 
 
It hasn't been widely made-use-of, but the RAL VHF beacons on=20 40/50/60/70MHz, and GB3VHF on 144MHz all have a GPS timed sequence of o= nce=20 per second phase reversals as part of their transmission (JT65B, CW, carrier= ,=20 reversals).   These reversals occur at a precise point referred to= =20 UTC, and anyone else can measure them, and relate to a local GPS=20 reference.

Andy  G4JNT
= www.g4jnt.com


2009/3/6 Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
OK  Andy,
 
I was thinking more in terms of generatin= g=20 the  pulse using 'audio' and not by hard keying .. but the 'area unde= r=20 the  curve' looks a little 'thin'  ..pity .. the  rest of=20 the  system could be 'constructed' using a audio editor .and sent via= a=20 ssb tx with alc 'off' .. how accurate is the  start time requirements= ?=20
 
tnx- G ..
 
 

Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 8:13 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Multi-function beacon

Not strictly -
Look at it in th efreqeuncy domain.  A 500us pulse has its first= =20 zero at 2000/pi =3D 637Hz, so most of the energy is within 1300Hz bandwidt= h,=20 and a substantial part will pass though the Rx filter.  It will=20= be=20 extended in time and flattenned, but the detection algorithm finds the pea= k,=20 in effect applying an inverse transform of the SSB filter.

Andy  G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com

 
 
Nb   the  pulse width , 500uS= ..=20 that's a bit  sharp for a ssb filter , only  1.5 cycles at 3 K= hz=20 ... ?
 
 
 
 


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------=_NextPart_000_0154_01C99EAC.44776A50-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh11.mx.aol.com (rly-mh11.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.147]) by air-mh06.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMH062-61749bec6653aa; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 17:36:55 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh11.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH114-61749bec6653aa; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 17:36:39 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LjKU0-0006gc-B6 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 21:36:28 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LjKTz-0006gR-49 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 21:36:27 +0000 Received: from mail-bw0-f164.google.com ([209.85.218.164]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LjKTw-0005ve-He for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 21:36:27 +0000 Received: by bwz8 with SMTP id 8so4102672bwz.4 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 14:36:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=cOlT4NXKAK8lczvwh1EnES4Uq1TVDOsr3s5YynxUlMs=; b=qQpjhH2AouD2V2ysVPZzao7PhD/0FoO/coEIo6SQ9ETB6bXkY7ujRjSSBczC56i7nh XQkK3r7Zp8robg7EQyuaEKdGBeUvmOG90a8GJ5dzLdvs68A6T++I5AnfNkuSi44UAx2N sPIXMaFiNk06rAS0UutFyqm32ebtfnszXtLJw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=aqPc2+qPcrnajQYiy/ctzITUFuxnAeByYdqXcgcHjYzAro+qD8AG5A4EyM78P8BBsc LoISXAXHRRFv/mVF9NAX9/EqWEn68CgCswN8o1Z9WQCTomZnTQVzMXdfZUfaRhAaubPG CgrVg6CX6687IdhbuxyxdMinmfLKODd74oKoo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.62.82 with SMTP id w18mr1770632bkh.129.1237239377786; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 14:36:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <005101c9a679$df148f50$6401a8c0@asus> References: <009001c9a588$7eb02c60$6401a8c0@asus> <00e001c9a5a7$f07216a0$6401a8c0@asus> <826BA6086575402A8C87062492069F5A@AGB> <004501c9a623$a4bf81d0$6401a8c0@asus> <2ED02F4327204E3C903828F9E18AA72B@AGB> <001e01c9a665$ebeac870$6401a8c0@asus> <00be01c9a66e$c8bfdbc0$0900a8c0@AM> <004a01c9a677$2a8b48a0$6401a8c0@asus> <005101c9a679$df148f50$6401a8c0@asus> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 21:36:17 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5b13a9d78a20465433d31 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNSAFE,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m262.2 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --001636c5b13a9d78a20465433d31 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable See you just have - got quite a shock until I realised the noise had plummeted as well. Any takers for the 5 and 6 minute slots? Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/3/16 Gary - G4WGT > *Andy,* > > * * > > *OK, I will insert an attenuator at the antenna socket (that=92s an easy > move) & watch how it performs. It is switched at 10dB steps so I will star= t > at 10db of course.* > > * * > > *Cheers,* > > * * > > *Gary.* > > * * > ------------------------------ > > *From:* owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto: > owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] *On Behalf Of *Andy Talbot > *Sent:* 16 March 2009 20:45 > > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > *Subject:* Re: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > Doesn't matter which - just total system gain. That S/W works best if the > noise threshold rides at about 10dB above the baseline, then it allows fo= r > up to 70 - 80dB of signal peaks. > > > Andy G4JNT > www.g4jnt.com > > 2009/3/16 Gary - G4WGT > > Alan, > > When you wrote :- > > my only comment is that you may have too much gain in the system. > > Are you meaning sound card or receiver gain? > > Gary. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Alan Melia > Sent: 16 March 2009 19:38 > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software > > Hi Gary my only comment is that you may have too much gain in the system. > It > is sometimes better to have the noise further down nearer the axis. > > I am afraid there is a major problem with this kind of beacon, when the > fading period is shorter than the sampling interval, so you dont really > know > what the path is doing. The only reliable points are the peaks, the trough= s > dont really mean anything without some very sophisticated analysis and > probably two spaced receivers. However it does give a snapshot of the band > without taking up too much bandwidth (this was what was required for 5MHz > too). Despite all the data collected very little analysis has actually be > done on the 5MHz data collected by this program. The one succesfull bit of > work was that published in Radcom by Marcis Walden G0IJZ. I used it for > some > time whilst Andy was testing the Poldhu beacon on 160m and also during the > 1st two months that ran. I was certainly surprised by the daytime path on > 160m from here. I have seen the data collected in Canada via Joe Craig > VO1NA > and it is difficult to see how to use it. > > Still if you dont collect the data you will never know!! > > Alan G3NYK > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gary - G4WGT" > To: > Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 6:35 PM > Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > Hi Graham, LF, > > > > > > > > The original HTML Code for the 2 minute refresh is still inserted into > the > > page format, so upload is 30 minute intervals with Syncback & 2 minute > > refresh. I have left the refresh in case I revert back to the original > > grabber page. I will look at changing it if I continue to use the beacon > > chart upload. > > > > > > > > I would like to have feedback from the LF group regarding the page, if > you > > check it out periodically, is it useful to you, what are you looking for= . > > > > > > > > You can view the chart on my web site at :- > > > > > > > > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html > > > > > > > > 73 > > > > > > > > Gary - G4WGT. > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham > > Sent: 16 March 2009 17:20 > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > > > > > Hi Gary, > > > > > > > > The page seemed to refresh quite often ... are there two settings ? > > > > > > > > G .. > > > > > > > > From: Gary - G4WGT > > > > Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:40 AM > > > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > > > Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > > > > > Hi Graham, LF, > > > > > > > > You wrote :- > > > > >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute > > intervals. <<< that could be backed off to 15 mins as the beacon only > > sends every 15 ?? > > > > > > > > I mentioned in my previous mail to ignore the text on the page as it was > > originally for grabber 1 for when I upgrade the web site (to a new desig= n > & > > better navigation etc), also mentioned is that upload is every 30 > minutes. > > > > > > > > If the uploaded chart proves useful or interesting to operators & viewer= s > > then I will change the text & make it a permanent feature for the > > foreseeable future. > > > > > > > > BTW :- > > > > > > > > For those of you who are not familiar with the chart - > > > > > > > > The RED trace is Andy's (G4JNT) beacon signal & the BLACK trace is the > noise > > level at my QTH. > > > > > > > > The Blue & GREEN are not in use & should be ignored on this chart as the= y > > are for the other beacons used when monitoring on the 5MHz allocation. > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > Gary - G4WGT > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham > > Sent: 15 March 2009 22:17 > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > > > > > Gary.. > > > > > > > > That looks good ... 0500 looks best time for a qso .. see you then Smil= e > > emoticon > > > > > > > > >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute > > intervals. <<< that could be backed off to 15 mins as the beacon only > > sends every 15 ?? > > > > > > > > the 15 db over the noise in day time is the same at this qth .. looks > like > > the big dips round 1900 where just when we where testing .. typical > hihi > > > > > > > > tnx- G .. > > > > > > > > From: Gary - G4WGT > > > > Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 7:55 PM > > > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > > > Subject: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > > > > > LF, > > > > > > > > I have now got the software, Syncback running correctly (I think). > > > > > > > > The purpose of this is to upload the chart from Andy's beacon as receive= d > > here to my web site periodically, ie. every 30 minutes. > > > > > > > > I now have a receiver running 24/7 monitoring Andy,s beacon on 503.7KHz.= . > > > > > > > > You can view the chart on my web site at :- > > > > > > > > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html > > > > > > > > For the moment ignore the text on the page as it is originally designed > to > > use with the 500KHz grabber when I renew my web site design. If it is a > > useful upload I will make it a permanent feature but may have to extend > the > > frequency coverage of grabber 1 so not to overload the PC with operation= s > > which will cause the PC to struggle. > > > > > > > > Let me have your comments please. > > > > > > > > 73 > > > > > > > > Gary - G4WGT. > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT > > Sent: 15 March 2009 16:10 > > To: LF -RSGB LF Group > > Subject: LF: Syncback software > > > > > > > > Hi LF, > > > > > > > > If anyone is using Syncback software & can help, please. > > > > > > > > I am tying to upload a file to my website who's filename does not change= , > > only the file size changes. I tried to do it with Argo-upload but failed > so > > I downloaded Syncback & still failing. > > > > > > > > Syncback gives me the following message :- > > > > > > > > ********************************** > > > > Can connect, but unable to change to destination directory: > > > > /chart01.bmp:not a directory > > > > ********************************** > > > > The Syncback help does not give me the answer. > > > > > > > > Any help will be appreciated > > > > > > > > Or > > > > > > > > Will Argo-Upload do it? > > > > > > > > Or > > > > > > > > Is there something else to do it? > > > > > > > > Thanks in anticipation, > > > > > > > > 73, > > > > > > > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.13/2001 - Release Date: > 03/14/09 > > 06:54:00 > > > > _____ > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.15/2003 - Release Date: > 03/15/09 > > 14:07:00 > > > > > > > > --001636c5b13a9d78a20465433d31 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
See you just have - got quite a shock until I realised the noise had pl= ummeted as well.
Any takers for the 5 and 6 minute slots?

Andy =A0G4JNT
www= .g4jnt.com


2009/3/16 Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>

Andy,

=A0

OK, I will inse= rt an attenuator at the antenna socket (that=92s an easy move) & watch h= ow it performs. It is switched at 10dB steps so I will start at 10db of cour= se.

=A0

Cheers,<= /font>

=A0

Gary.

=A0

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_= lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf=20= Of Andy Talbot
Sent: 16 March 2009 20:45=20


To: rsgb_lf_grou= p@blacksheep.org
Subject:= Re: LF: RE: Syncback software

=A0

Doesn't matter which - just total system gain.=A0 That S/W works best i= f the noise threshold rides at about 10dB above the baseline,=A0 then it all= ows for up to 70 - 80dB of signal peaks.

<= span style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">
Andy =A0G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com

2009/3/16 Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>

Alan,

When you wrote :-

<= span style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">my only comment is that you may have too much= gain in the system.

Are you meaning sound card or receiver gain?

Gary.



-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<= /a>

[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Alan Melia
Sent= : 16 March 2009 19:38

<= span style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF= : RE: Syncback software

Hi Gary my only comment is that you may have too much gain in the system= . It
is sometimes better to have the noise further down nearer the axis..=

I am afraid there is a major problem with this kind of beacon, when=20= the
fading period is shorter than the sampling interval, so you dont really know=
what the path is doing. The only reliable points are the peaks, the trou= ghs
dont really mean anything without some very sophisticated analysis an= d
probably two spaced receivers. However it does give a snapshot of the bandwithout taking up too much bandwidth (this was what was required for 5MHz<= br>too). Despite all the data collected very little analysis has actually be=
done on the 5MHz data collected by this program. The one succesfull bit ofwork was that published in Radcom by Marcis Walden G0IJZ. I used it for so= me
time whilst Andy was testing the Poldhu beacon on 160m and also during= the
1st two months that ran. I was certainly surprised by the daytime path on160m from here. I have seen the data collected in Canada via Joe Craig VO1N= A
and it is difficult to see how to use it.

Still if you dont coll= ect the data you will never know!!

Alan G3NYK




----- Original Message -----
From: &quo= t;Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 6:35 PM
Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback softwa= re


> Hi Graham, LF,
>
>
>
> The origin= al HTML Code for the 2 minute refresh is still inserted into the
> pag= e format, so upload is 30 minute intervals with Syncback & 2 minute
> refresh. I have left the refresh in case I revert back to the original<= br>> grabber page. I will look at changing it if I continue to use the be= acon
> chart upload.
>
>
>
> I would like to h= ave feedback from the LF group regarding the page, if you
> check it out periodically, is it useful to you, what are you looking fo= r.
>
>
>
> You can view the chart on my web site at=20= :-
>
>
>
> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/g= rabber3.html
>
>
>
> 73
>
>
>
> Gary - G4WGT= .
>
>
>
>
>
> =A0 _____
>
>=20= From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham
&= gt; Sent: 16 March 2009 17:20
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software
>
>
>
>=20= Hi Gary,
>
>
>
> The page seemed to =A0refresh quite= often ... are there two settings ?
>
>
>
> G ..
>
>
>
> From: Gary - G4WGT <mailto:g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
><= br>> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:40 AM
>
> To: rsgb_lf_group@bla= cksheep.org
>
> Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software
>
>
><= br>> Hi Graham, LF,
>
>
>
> You wrote :-
><= br>> >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at=20= 2 minute
> intervals. <<< that could be backed off to =A015 mins as the b= eacon only
> sends every 15 ??
>
>
>
> I menti= oned in my previous mail to ignore the text on the page as it was
> or= iginally for grabber 1 for when I upgrade the web site (to a new design
&
> better navigation etc), also mentioned is that upload is every= 30 minutes.
>
>
>
> If the uploaded chart proves us= eful or interesting to operators & viewers
> then I will change th= e text & make it a permanent feature for the
> foreseeable future.
>
>
>
> BTW :-
>
&= gt;
>
> For those of you =A0who are not familiar with the chart=20= -
>
>
>
> The RED trace is Andy's (G4JNT) beacon= signal & the BLACK trace is the
noise
> level at my QTH.
>
>
>
> The Blue &= ; GREEN are not in use & should be ignored on this chart as they
>= are for the other beacons used when monitoring on the 5MHz allocation.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> Gary -=20= G4WGT
>
>
>
>
>
> =A0 _____
>
&= gt; From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham
&= gt; Sent: 15 March 2009 22:17
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software
>
>
>
>=20= Gary..
>
>
>
> That looks good =A0... 0500 looks bes= t time for a qso .. see you then Smile
> emoticon
>
>
>
> >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refres= h at 2 minute
> intervals. <<< that could be backed off to=20= =A015 mins as the beacon only
> sends every 15 ??
>
>
>
> the =A015 db over the noise in day time is the =A0same at this=20= qth .. looks
like
> the big dips round 1900 =A0where just when we w= here testing .. =A0typical hihi
>
>
>
> tnx- G .. >
>
>
> From: Gary - G4WGT <mailto:g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
><= br>> Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 7:55 PM
>
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksh= eep.org
>
> Subject: LF: RE: Syncback software
>
>
>
&= gt; LF,
>
>
>
> I have now got the software, Syncbac= k running correctly (I think).
>
>
>
> The purpose o= f this is to upload the chart from Andy's beacon as received
> here to my web site periodically, ie. every 30 minutes.
>
>=
>
> I now have a receiver running 24/7 monitoring Andy,s beacon= on 503.7KHz.
>
>
>
> You can view the chart on my w= eb site at :-
>
>
>
> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber= 3.html
>
>
>
> For the moment ignore the text on= the page as it is originally designed to
> use with the 500KHz grabber when I renew my web site design. If it is a=
> useful upload I will make it a permanent feature but may have to ex= tend
the
> frequency coverage of grabber 1 so not to overload the P= C with operations
> which will cause the PC to struggle.
>
>
>
> Le= t me have your comments please.
>
>
>
> 73
>>
>
> Gary - G4WGT.
>
>
>
> =A0 ___= __
>
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb= _lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT
> Sent: 15 March 2009 16:10
> To: LF -RSGB LF Group
> Subject= : LF: Syncback software
>
>
>
> Hi LF,
>
&g= t;
>
> If anyone is using Syncback software & can help, plea= se.
>
>
>
> I am tying to upload a file to my website who&#= 39;s filename does not change,
> only the file size changes. I tried t= o do it with Argo-upload but failed
so
> I downloaded Syncback &= ; still failing.
>
>
>
> Syncback gives me the following message :-
&= gt;
>
>
> **********************************
>
&g= t; Can connect, but unable to change to destination directory:
>
> /chart01.bmp:not a directory
>
> **************************= ********
>
> The Syncback help does not give me the answer.
&= gt;
>
>
> Any help will be appreciated
>
>
>
> Or
>
>
>
> Will Argo-Upload do it?
&= gt;
>
>
> Or
>
>
>
> Is there some= thing else to do it?
>
>
>
> Thanks in anticipation,=
>
>
>
> 73,
>
>
>
> Gary - G4WG= T - IO83QP.
>
>
>
> =A0 _____
>
>
>= ; No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.13/2001 - Release Date: 03/14= /09
> 06:54:00
>
> =A0 _____
>
>
> No vi= rus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.15/2003 - Release Date: 03/15= /09
> 14:07:00
>
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--001636c5b13a9d78a20465433d31-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db10.mx.aol.com (rly-db10.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.85]) by air-db06.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB063-af049caa081147; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 17:22:29 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db10.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB106-af049caa081147; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 17:22:12 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LmaX8-00032n-4r for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 21:21:10 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LmaX7-00032e-NL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 21:21:09 +0000 Received: from [193.252.22.190] (helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LmaX5-0006Cy-AD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 21:21:09 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3603.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id CD8357000085 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 22:20:59 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.50.116]) by mwinf3603.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 8BCEA7000083 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 22:20:59 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20090325212059572.8BCEA7000083@mwinf3603.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <09E8E03857CB4997BB514DAA7BC43E73@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <864ED1778706409D9A640FF89C5F22C7@Silver> <35BC7A5BC84143BB916FEAA9FA0B67CF@AGB> In-Reply-To: <35BC7A5BC84143BB916FEAA9FA0B67CF@AGB> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 21:20:58 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8064.206 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8064.206 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_TAG_EXIST_TBODY=0.126,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: Re: LF: WSPR G0NBD 502.4 DIAL NOW TILL LATER POSS OVER NIGHT Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_022A_01C9AD8F.976F9290" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY,LINES_OF_YELLING,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME, UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_022A_01C9AD8F.976F9290 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Whats the chance of this .... same time .. same signal ...just a slight dif= ference in the distance ....! Thanks for posting the spots=20 G .=20 2009-03-25 00:56 G0NBD 0.503938 -23 0 IO83lk +13 0.020=20= AA1A FN42pb 5012 3114 =20 2009-03-25 00:56 G0NBD 0.503937 -23 0 IO83lk +13 0.020=20= DJ6YD JO42bg 760 472 =20 From: Graham=20 Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 10:34 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: LF: WSPR G0NBD 502.4 DIAL NOW TILL LATER POSS OVER NIGHT=20 Making hay while the sun (doesn't shine)=20 G0NBD 502.4 DIAL NOW TILL LATER POSS OVER NIGHT=20 Tnx- G .. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.5.283 / Virus Database: 270.11.27/2021 - Release Date: 03/24/09 1= 6:00:00 ------=_NextPart_000_022A_01C9AD8F.976F9290 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Whats the  chance of this .... same ti= me ..=20 same signal ...just a slight difference in the  distance ....!
 
Thanks for posting the  spots <= /DIV>
 
G .
 
 
 
 2009-03-25 00:56   G0NBD   0.503938   -23   0   IO83lk   +13   0.020   AA1A   FN42pb   5012   3114 
 2009-03-25 00:56   G0NBD   0.503937   -23   0   IO83lk   +13   0.020   DJ6YD   JO42bg   760   472 

From: Graham
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 10:34 PM
Subject: LF: WSPR G0NBD 502.4 DIAL NOW TILL LATER POSS OVER NIGH= T=20

Maki= ng =20 hay while the  sun (doesn't shine)
 
G0NB= D 502.4=20 DIAL NOW TILL LATER POSS OVER NIGHT
 
Tnx-= G=20 ..
 
 

 


No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 8.5.283 / Virus Da= tabase:=20 270.11.27/2021 - Release Date: 03/24/09 16:00:00
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SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C99B58.E115F630 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable DI2AG / DJ2LFDear Dave, it was a great test. I had not hoped for these good results. Thanks=20= for this additional info. Yes, DI2AM should be 6 to 10dB better than my sign= al, he has 9W ERP, I have only 1W ERP ( that is, because I do not have a shi= p in my garden ). As F4DTL reported he received WE2XGR and W1TAG last night=20= on 508.xxx. I think I will try also.=20 So best wishes to "the colonies" 73 Walter ----- Original Message -----=20 From: dave.riley3=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 4:42 PM Subject: LF: Re: WSPR-Versuch MW.doc Hi Walter, =20 I would have copied and decoded you many times but after QSL of the first=20= two, I shifted to WE2XVY ( 508 ) frequency who is much closer in Arizona, bu= t nil sigs all night... =20 BTW, allowing for QSB you were -6 db from DI2AM... =20 TNX for good sigs, =20 Dave =20 =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Walter und Marianne Staubach=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 9:36 AM Subject: LF: WSPR-Versuch MW.doc =20 Dear All on 600m, here are some results of the test last night. It was great. 73 Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF =20 =20 =20 DI2AG / DJ2LF =20 Test with WSPR ( beacon-mode ) on MF 505.090MHz =20 March 1. 19:00UTC to March 2. 07:00UTC =20 Results =20 13 stations reported via WSPR, 6stations reported via reflector or gave=20= additional comments. Total sum: 378 reports ODX: AA1A 6077Km ( mni tnx, Dave ) Mni tnx also to Andy, G4JNT, who went QRT with his WSPR beacon that nigh= t. =20 =20 Call QRB Loc Best signal at Poorest signal at =20= Nr. of reports =20 (Km) (SNR) (UTC) (SNR) (UTC) =20 AA1A 6.077 FN42pb -24 02:00 ----------- =20= 2 DJ6LB 11 JN59mm + 8 22:44 +5 22:12 =20= 9 OR7T 481 JO20ix -4 20:02 -6 19:48 =20= 3 G4WGT 1.048 IO83qp -17 20:20 -27 20:10 =20= 7 SQ7MPJ 634 JO91rs -16 20:10 -26 20:20 =20= 22 LA3BEA 1.140 JO29og -8 01:38 -27 06:32 =20= 95 G3XVL 753 JO02nb -3 20:48 -16 20:20 =20= 20 Michael 221 JN49bf +2 18:54 -7 19:00 =20= 10 GM4ISM 1.220 IO85ar -14 23:20 -29 18:28 =20= 85 DD7PC 225 JN49ax -4 18:28 -26 20:20 =20= 6 G0KTN 973 IO81ti +0 00:02 -26 18:02 =20= 54 F4DTL 639 JN18fp -4 22:28 -21 18:02 =20= 17 G4JNT 893 IO90iv -4 20:34 -21 18:22 =20= 48 =20= -------------- =20= Total 378 =20 Mni tnx to All =20 73 Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF 03.02.09 =20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C99B58.E115F630 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable DI2AG / DJ2LF
Dear Dave,
       =20= it was a=20 great test. I had not hoped for these good results. Thanks for this addition= al=20 info. Yes, DI2AM should be 6 to 10dB better than my signal, he has 9W ERP, I= =20 have only 1W ERP ( that is, because I do not have a ship in my garden ). As=20 F4DTL reported he received WE2XGR and W1TAG last night on 508.xxx. I think I= =20 will try also.
So best wishes to "the colonies"
73   Walter
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 dave.riley3
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 4:42=20 PM
Subject: LF: Re: WSPR-Versuch=20 MW.doc

Hi Walter,
 
I would have copied and decoded you many times= but=20 after QSL of the first two, I shifted to WE2XVY ( 508 ) frequency who is m= uch=20 closer in Arizona, but nil sigs all night...
 
BTW, allowing for QSB you were -6 db from=20 DI2AM...
 
TNX for good sigs,
 
Dave
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 9:36= =20 AM
Subject: LF: WSPR-Versuch MW.doc<= /DIV>

 

Dear All o= n=20 600m,

        = ;=20 here are some results of the test last night. It was=20 great.

73  Walter  DI2AG /=20 DJ2LF

 = ;

 = ;

 = ;

DI2AG=20 / DJ2LF

 = ;

Test with=20= WSPR (=20 beacon-mode ) on MF 505.090MHz

 = ;

March 1. 1= 9:00UTC to March=20 2. 07:00UTC

 = ;

Results

 = ;

13 station= s reported via=20 WSPR, 6stations reported via reflector or gave additional=20 comments.

Total sum:= 378=20 reports

ODX: AA1A=20= 6077Km ( mni=20 tnx, Dave )

Mni tnx al= so to Andy,=20 G4JNT, who went QRT with his WSPR beacon that=20 night.

 = ;

 = ;

Call         QRB   Loc     =20=  Best signal at     Poorest signal at    Nr. of reports         = ;     =20

        = ;     =20  (Km)        &nb= sp;    =20     &n= bsp; (SNR)=20 (UTC)    (SNR)=20 (UTC)

 = ;

AA1A     &= nbsp;6.077  FN42pb=     -24  02:00         =20 -----------  &nb= sp;            &= nbsp;       =20   2

DJ6LB       =   =20 11  JN59mm   + 8  22:44&n= bsp;          <= /SPAN>+5  22:12        = ;            &nb= sp;   =20 9

OR7T       &= nbsp; =20 481  JO20ix        = 20:02     &n= bsp;    =20 -6  19:48        = ;            &nb= sp; =20   3

G4WGT   1.048 &n= bsp; IO83qp   &= nbsp; -17  20:20      &nb= sp; =20 -27  20:10       &nbs= p;            &n= bsp;   =20 7

SQ7MPJ     634   JO91rs &n= bsp;    -16&nbs= p; 20:10   &nbs= p;     =20 -26  20:20       &nbs= p;            &n= bsp; =20 22

LA3BEA  1.140  JO29og=       =20 -8  01:38        = ; =20 -27  06:32       &nbs= p;            &n= bsp; =20 95

G3XVL       753  JO= 02nb     &nb= sp;=20 -3  20:48        = ; =20 -16  20:20       &nbs= p;            &n= bsp; =20 20

Michael       221  = JN49bf     &= nbsp;=20 +2  18:54        = ;   =20 -7  19:00        = ;            &nb= sp; =20 10

GM4ISM  1.220  IO85ar=       -14  23:20  &n= bsp;      =20 -29  18:28       &nbs= p;            &n= bsp; =20 85

DD7PC     &= nbsp; 225   JN49ax    &nb= sp; =20 -4  18:28        = ; =20 -26  20:20       &nbs= p;            &n= bsp;   =20 6

G0KTN      &= nbsp;973  IO81ti      &nb= sp; =20 +0  00:02        = ;=20 -26  18:02       &nbs= p;            &n= bsp; =20 54

F4DTL        639  JN= 18fp     &nb= sp; =20 -4  22:28        = ; =20 -21  18:02       &nbs= p;            &n= bsp; =20 17

G4JNT      &= nbsp; 893  IO= 90iv     <= SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">    -4  20:34  &n= bsp;      =20 -21  18:22       &nbs= p;            &n= bsp; =20 48

         = ;            &nb= sp;            &= nbsp;            = ;            &nb= sp;            &= nbsp;            = ;           =20 --------------

         = ;            &nb= sp;            &= nbsp;            = ;      =20     &n= bsp;            =             &nbs= p;            &n= bsp;Total   =20 378

 

       Mni=20 tnx to All

         = ;            &nb= sp;        =20

73=      =20  Walter  DI2AG / DJ2LF<= o:p>

      =20 03.02.09

 

 

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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) I have run the '930 with the AGC off many times. It does pick out signals deeper in the noise floor that way. I have noticed that with using the 270hz first IF filter, that it can pull signals out of the noise very easy. More easy than running no AGC? I don't have that answer yet. 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rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 09:08:37 +0100 (MET) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 09:08:30 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <67EA2B881CA94E48990AD51F0E3E9540@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: XGJ 18-03.jpg Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_vujBg56hHdtEMJQvRdpSXg)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 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Hi Warren and All,
capture XGJ
Henny cpm
best 73s
 
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
XGJ 18-03.jpg

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From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md09.mx.aol.com (rly-md09.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.147]) by air-md06.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMD062-92749bfda734d; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 13:14:30 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md09.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD097-92749bfda734d; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 13:14:29 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ljcrx-0004J5-Rc for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 17:14:25 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ljcrx-0004Iv-Ep for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 17:14:25 +0000 Received: from mail-qy0-f112.google.com ([209.85.221.112]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ljcrw-0003nI-PP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 17:14:25 +0000 Received: by mail-qy0-f112.google.com with SMTP id 10so232259qyk.30 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 10:14:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=FgXjswHB55ebGIN4GyNfhCt8YcblT362jHrB5ntNz8I=; b=tHa+sH6NscAKu2+9QlQhm/E3/Lqnjwy10yKRhuA0HRKoX4A0o5vto4VRMl082NDok3 ax98+EWsCZgbGkk9RcUS7XZPfqk8UGoRCOwWiSCPTnruKny9rxrnJxtsmk/uASgo1YHT Htu2cJg1MginZxjQ5AF3/pTGeNqBw5JnKKzm8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=E8hQC+QE7ZTc3uKXes6k6hCBR1eyRwmePvEpCN0f35455RuRsO6/qwUrJM7pnq0U3c O3Ci6UFBMZ40cbrpy2ErhkY/d8zk+uZMVUbMdBrQ0ANriz6pw+k+xTbWNYw+kpeEOP36 h9eXIULjCppEzIiyJ5juaO7MdPBnl62PqHcBw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.74.84 with SMTP id t20mr400940qaj.332.1237310064372; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 10:14:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 12:14:24 -0500 Message-ID: <57a24ca70903171014i110b8eebla467a2ccfb20f950@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: Re: LF: XGJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m219.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) OK Lubos, XGJ will be on again tonite. --=20 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 2009/3/17 Lubos OK2BVG : > Hello Warren, LF! > I wasn=B4t on 137.777kHz last night, becouse my beacon OK0EMW transmitted.= . But > I will be ready this night and I am just looking forward to your signal. > > 73 Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS > > ________________________________ > St=E1hn=ECte si zcela nov=FD Messenger 2009! Klikni zde! --=20 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me10.mx.aol.com (rly-me10.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.44]) by air-me08.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINME081-9de49b028db1d7; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 14:33:14 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me10.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME102-9de49b028db1d7; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 14:32:47 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LfJIV-00005S-TO for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 19:31:59 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LfJIV-00005J-DU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 19:31:59 +0000 Received: from mail-fx0-f174.google.com ([209.85.220.174]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LfJIU-0000vL-EG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 19:31:59 +0000 Received: by fxm22 with SMTP id 22so93213fxm.4 for ; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 11:31:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=3I9rCV9TVmskEJETc/KBvjU0JXzTfagI8FbiY2BMH/M=; b=caxGaehk3/4vnfnDoGdzRJdK4Asjw0k3PRQfPPtHisZ+7l+48p0KAGabRQysTu9fmr 5ZPFX6dBZcKTdXKfRjLn91DVqvADj6u4vAHYS2w2wq2lGLxceO9mhTCoWewy+b2BCTF6 lgFvDAb6KhS2PRsIVtzR2A7iMl+BOW2bXySDU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=FLNzxzVgpyMQclftb/thpvdVUTT0A7LKSlUXOjL50TCUV5cIUWvK0qiiBVA9S7yMi7 VrOplqdCaSZvVuzr5R+j5HZ7L4AoDYEe/NYBU+OzIskrNVoJDhNvFi72gd/zelI3a4Jg uu6o9TomNWne9sjJnxgtQo5GqhEFB2g7FLb5c= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.107.19 with SMTP id z19mr1281542fao.27.1236281511926; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 11:31:51 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <000a01c99a91$a54a1180$1402a8c0@e7010> <7.0.1.0.1.20090305091934.0181aca8@magma.ca> Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 19:31:51 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Deep copy... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d278.1 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) It all depends on your resolution bandwith which you don't specify. Pnoise =3D kTB With my SDR-IQ set to 190kHz span and 131072 point FFT, resolution bandwidth =3D 1.5Hz and Rx set to +10dB gain to get the best noise figure: -145dBm with a 50R load. With the Antenna connected this rises to -115dBm (measured at 1920 UTC) with no obvious lines or peaks contributing. If you normalise to the standard 2.5kHz noise measurement bandwidth, that equates to -112 (50R) and -82dBm.(antenna) respectively Thermal noise at reference temperature of 290K is -174dBm/Hz, so for 2.5kHz that gives -140dBm suggesting the noise figure of the SDR-IQ could be 140 - 112 =3D 28dB. It probably isn't this low as we're in the quantisation noise with no input signal, but a NF of 15 - 20dB would probably be a rough guesstimate. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/3/5 dave.riley3 : > Thanks to ALL who responded with quick and cogent findings... > > It has seemed for a time that with the receiver AGC and NBs OFF that I > generally can see a deeper signal, depending on conditions... > > The final audio filter assures that the program does not have to deal with > noise outside of the passband of interest... > > TNX > > > Here is today's gnawing question...=A0 What is the expected ambient noise=20= say > @ 600M one should expect?? > Rural, City, Country, remote battery operated, etc. combinations... > Especially well away from AC neutral wires... > > Today I ran the input to the SDR-IQ=A0into a 50 ohm load and set a long > integrate ( 64+ ) =A0and saw approx -134 dbm of baseband noise with NO > signals... > > I then connected to the outside antenna with no external pre-amp or any no= n > linear device and saw -117 dbm of noise across 10 khz. with a few weak and > floating predictable BB noises.. > > At night it is sure to be up to near -100 dbm depending on conditions and > noises present... > > What do YOU get for a noise difference between a terminated antenna input > and your regular receive antenna?? > > I'm about to place several e-probes about this place in order to mix and > match phase and amplitudes in order to see what net gain can be made to th= e > SNR with the hope that the most offending noises will not be in the path o= f > a desired signal... > > TNX and ain't this fun??? > > Dave @ WD2XSH/17 > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bill de Carle > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 9:58 AM > Subject: Re: LF: Deep copy... > At 09:25 PM 3/4/2009, you wrote: > > I seem to get best results while trying to pull signals out of the noise > when the AGC of the receiver is OFF as well as the Noise Blanker and Noise > reduction features being OFF... > > Do you concur?? > > Also setting a good audio filter to the passband of interest seems to bypa= ss > some heavy static hits as well... > > I've noticed that when doing HF frequency measurement tests (working to th= e > nearest milliHertz) - turning off the AGC under high static conditions see= ms > to improve the accuracy of the measurement, at least with the software I > use.=A0 One plausible explanation is that AGC action necessarily introduce= s > amplitude modulation (on all signals in the passband).=A0 When I process t= he > AGC'd signal with what amounts to a very narrow DSP filter the added > amplitude modulation shows up as apparent sidebands close-in on the signal > I'm trying to measure.=A0 If the power in those sidebands is comparable to > that of the signal whose frequency I'm looking for, the FFT algorithm (whi= ch > assumes the real signal has the largest amplitude) gets confused and comes > up with an estimated frequency somewhere between the correct value and tha= t > of a nearby sideband.=A0 The effect is small however because the AGC pumpi= ng > action doesn't occur very fast so the added sidebands are seen to be only > some milliHertz away from the signal.=A0 The sidebands occur on both sides= of > the "real" signal, so one might expect them to cancel out but in practice > they don't because the amount of error depends on where the "real" signal > falls with respect to the fixed frequency bins of the FFT.=A0 It should be > possible to model the AGC action of a particular receiver and compensate f= or > it in the software.=A0 No doubt the phenomenon becomes less significant wi= th > smaller FFT's or shorter integration times.=A0 Changing the AGC setting > between SLOW-FAST-OFF might help under some conditions.=A0 With QRSS-60 > signaling rates it can take a long time to find out which setting is > optimum, especially when band conditions are changing or the QSB period is > close to a bit time, hi! > > VE2IQ > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg02.mx.aol.com (rly-mg02.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.108]) by air-mg01.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMG012-9fc49c09e641b; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 03:10:49 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg02.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG026-9fc49c09e641b; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 03:10:30 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ljpuq-0003Pv-Jl for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 07:10:16 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ljpuq-0003Pm-2a for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 07:10:16 +0000 Received: from [80.12.242.18] (helo=smtp19.orange.fr) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ljpuo-0007WE-EN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 07:10:16 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1917.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id E5EE320000AC for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 08:10:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from JR (Mix-Nancy-110-1-11.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.248.199.11]) by mwinf1917.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 2339D20000B3 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 08:10:05 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20090318071006144.2339D20000B3@mwinf1917.orange.fr Message-ID: <200903180810020049.1FF93C78@smtp.wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <49C01194.2010305@online.fr> References: <49C01194.2010305@online.fr> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (P) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 08:10:02 +0100 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: [137kHz] Test de f1afj qrss60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Nothing heard here. Much QRM, QRN and LX. 73 John F5VLF *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 17/03/2009 at 22:09 Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 (F1AFJ) wrote: >Hello LF >I am in test on 137775 qrss60, 300 W until 22:00z >Your reports will be welcome >73 Jean-Pierre f1afj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da02.mx.aol.com (rly-da02.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.76]) by air-da08.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDA084-a5749c1a11c3b1; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:34:33 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da02.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA027-a5749c1a11c3b1; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:34:22 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lk78h-0006R3-Iv for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 01:33:43 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lk78h-0006Qu-2p for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 01:33:43 +0000 Received: from fish2.hurontel.on.ca ([216.46.129.163]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lk78f-0005Sh-Bh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 01:33:43 +0000 Received: from weazle (pppoe.dyn-216.46.157.28.hurontel.on.ca [216.46.157.28]) by fish2.hurontel.on.ca (Spam Firewall) with SMTP id 874A3917AEB; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:33:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from weazle (pppoe.dyn-216.46.157.28.hurontel.on.ca [216.46.157.28]) by fish2.hurontel.on.ca with SMTP id 0FgPNRWE7iwrChb9; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:33:32 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <000701c9a832$b4b59500$0b01a8c0@weazle> From: "J. B. Weazle McCreath" To: Cc: Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 01:33:20 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: WSPR in EN93DR Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hello Jay, John, gang, Hardly DX, but your whispering is quite solid here this evening. On the other rig, Shanwick A.T.C. on 2872 is booming in. One day soon we'll be griping about storm noise! 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL Solar and wind powered Lowfer " EAR" 188.830 EN93dr http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da10.mx.aol.com (rly-da10.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.84]) by air-da10.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDA104-a9249c0a61f36a; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 03:43:44 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da10.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA102-a9249c0a61f36a; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 03:43:28 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LjqQl-0003mL-FR for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 07:43:15 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LjqQl-0003mC-4p for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 07:43:15 +0000 Received: from smtp5-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.5]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LjqQh-0005Dc-8F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 07:43:15 +0000 Received: from smtp5-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp5-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52602D4812F for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 08:43:03 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp5-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E896D4814B for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 08:43:01 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <49C0A604.4050200@online.fr> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 08:43:00 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <49C01194.2010305@online.fr> <200903180810020049.1FF93C78@smtp.wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <200903180810020049.1FF93C78@smtp.wanadoo.fr> X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: Re: LF: [137kHz] Test de f1afj qrss60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) TNX John , 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj John RABSON a =E9crit : > Nothing heard here. Much QRM, QRN and LX. > > 73 > John F5VLF > > *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** > > On 17/03/2009 at 22:09 Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 (F1AFJ) wrote: > > =20 >> Hello LF >> I am in test on 137775 qrss60, 300 W until 22:00z >> Your reports will be welcome >> 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj >> =20 > > > > > > > > > =20 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg06.mx.aol.com (rly-dg06.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.90]) by air-dg02.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDG022-5d149cb38db314; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 04:12:23 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg06.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG064-5d149cb38db314; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 04:12:13 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LmkgC-0006SO-Mu for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 08:11:12 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LmkgC-0006SF-Bd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 08:11:12 +0000 Received: from psmtp13.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.25]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LmkgA-0007wl-Cv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 08:11:12 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp13.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KH300F9FTEDVW@psmtp13.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 09:11:02 +0100 (MET) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 09:11:02 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <49D5E3D4D34C47D9BA0E850BFBD9A615@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: XGJ 26-03.jpg Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_vZn1oiQAPt8ASdMFmK96Yw)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_vZn1oiQAPt8ASdMFmK96Yw) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_C3ksqShB/KLydD+MGIUUCQ)" --Boundary_(ID_C3ksqShB/KLydD+MGIUUCQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Hello Warren,Lf capture XGJ Henny Pa3cpm Best 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: XGJ 26-03.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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(we0h@75.168.141.63 with plain) by smtp110.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Mar 2009 17:42:57 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: SVzVDWoVM1kfhcwuB7Gf484SL1vsbSZhiSt04FVHMFNwJBaVs2qdoptj4zL5V95hPtyiq5N6euIShlWFt9yOYrVf_t7h1TXDztb8puTKaNLQ13TB2lpB3dQH2F1KM6xXg6ICPfWA_kXb8VoGfdIsuEtOYvFRLNC2gCDx5X7PolAQ95KonlMUsKYIr2W5_tuA5psNAgBI7yLWO4mqLK2yfmNwPckpO75Rjg-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <49C3D59C.50909@yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 12:42:52 -0500 From: Mike-WE0H User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090318) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <57a24ca70903200951x42ca0ee9rac2f6e87b975896c@mail.gmail.com> <49C3D393.18849.5C9A7B@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> In-Reply-To: <49C3D393.18849.5C9A7B@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Ropex Info? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) A better link: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/mike.dennison/index/lf//ropex/ Mike WE0H Mike D wrote: > I have posted the documents at: > > http://:lf.apersonalguide.co.uk/ropex > > Mike, G3XDV > ========== > > >> I have just acquired a Ropex "The First" transmitter for 136kHz - >> but without documentation of any kind. I know that Ropex did not >> supply anything more than a single sheet of instructions but I'm >> lacking even that. Questions: 1) Anyone have a copy of the instruction >> sheet that they could copy or scan? 2) Any info on mods (injecting an >> external vfo for example)? 3) Anybody do any 'reverse engineering' of >> the circuit? >> >> Any info at all is much appreciated! >> >> -- >> 73 Warren K2ORS >> WD2XGJ >> WD2XSH/23 >> WE2XEB/2 >> WE2XGR/1 >> >> >> > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df06.mx.aol.com (rly-df06.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.19]) by air-df05.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDF052-55749afe91029a; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 10:00:51 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df06.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF062-55749afe91029a; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 10:00:34 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LfF1T-0004pF-4J for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 14:58:07 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LfF1S-0004p6-Ij for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 14:58:06 +0000 Received: from mail9.primus.ca ([216.254.141.176] helo=mail-06.primus.ca) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LfF1R-0003SS-By for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 14:58:06 +0000 Received: from dyn-dsl-bb-76-75-125-241.nrtco.net ([76.75.125.241] helo=Bigmachine.magma.ca) by mail-06.primus.ca with esmtpa (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LfF1P-0006iA-1U for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 09:58:03 -0500 Message-Id: <7.0.1.0.1.20090305091934.0181aca8@magma.ca> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.1.0 Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 09:58:04 -0500 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: Bill de Carle In-Reply-To: References: <000a01c99a91$a54a1180$1402a8c0@e7010> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Authenticated: ve2iq - dyn-dsl-bb-76-75-125-241.nrtco.net (Bigmachine.magma.ca) [76.75.125.241] X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_10_20=0.945,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Deep copy... Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_3263783==.ALT" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --=====================_3263783==.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 09:25 PM 3/4/2009, you wrote: >I seem to get best results while trying to pull signals out of the >noise when the AGC of the receiver is OFF as well as the Noise >Blanker and Noise reduction features being OFF... > >Do you concur?? > >Also setting a good audio filter to the passband of interest seems >to bypass some heavy static hits as well... I've noticed that when doing HF frequency measurement tests (working to the nearest milliHertz) - turning off the AGC under high static conditions seems to improve the accuracy of the measurement, at least with the software I use. One plausible explanation is that AGC action necessarily introduces amplitude modulation (on all signals in the passband). When I process the AGC'd signal with what amounts to a very narrow DSP filter the added amplitude modulation shows up as apparent sidebands close-in on the signal I'm trying to measure. If the power in those sidebands is comparable to that of the signal whose frequency I'm looking for, the FFT algorithm (which assumes the real signal has the largest amplitude) gets confused and comes up with an estimated frequency somewhere between the correct value and that of a nearby sideband. The effect is small however because the AGC pumping action doesn't occur very fast so the added sidebands are seen to be only some milliHertz away from the signal. The sidebands occur on both sides of the "real" signal, so one might expect them to cancel out but in practice they don't because the amount of error depends on where the "real" signal falls with respect to the fixed frequency bins of the FFT. It should be possible to model the AGC action of a particular receiver and compensate for it in the software. No doubt the phenomenon becomes less significant with smaller FFT's or shorter integration times. Changing the AGC setting between SLOW-FAST-OFF might help under some conditions. With QRSS-60 signaling rates it can take a long time to find out which setting is optimum, especially when band conditions are changing or the QSB period is close to a bit time, hi! VE2IQ --=====================_3263783==.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable At 09:25 PM 3/4/2009, you wrote:
I seem to g= et best results while trying to pull signals out of the noise when the AGC of the receiver is OFF as well as the Noise Blanker and Noise reduction features being OFF...
 
Do you concur??
 
Also setting a good audio filter to the passband of interest seems to bypass some heavy static hits as well...

I've noticed that when doing HF frequency measurement tests (working to the nearest milliHertz) - turning off the AGC under high static conditions seems to improve the accuracy of the measurement, at least with the software I use.  One plausible explanation is that AGC action necessarily introduces amplitude modulation (on all signals in the passband).  When I process the AGC'd signal with what amounts to a very narrow DSP filter the added amplitude modulation shows up as apparent sidebands close-in on the signal I'm trying to measure.  If the power in those sidebands is comparable to that of the signal whose frequency I'm looking for, the FFT algorithm (which assumes the real signal has the largest amplitude) gets confused and comes up with an estimated frequency somewhere between the correct value and that of a nearby sideband.  The effect is small however because the AGC pumping action doesn't occur very fast so the added sidebands are seen to be only some milliHertz away from the signal.  The sidebands occur on both sides of the "real" signal, so one might expect them to cancel out but in practice they don't because the amount of error depends on where the "real" signal falls with respect to the fixed frequency bins of the FFT.  It should be possible to model the AGC action of a particular receiver and compensate for it in the software.  No doubt the phenomenon becomes less significant with smaller FFT's or shorter integration times.  Changing the AGC setting between SLOW-FAST-OFF might help under some conditions.  With QRSS-60 signaling rates it can take a long time to find out which setting is optimum, especially when band conditions are changing or the QSB period is close to a bit time, hi!

VE2IQ
--=====================_3263783==.ALT-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh03.mx.aol.com (rly-mh03.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.139]) by air-mh04.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMH043-bc449b304ef345; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 18:36:25 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh03.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH034-bc449b304ef345; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 18:36:17 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lg63h-0002p1-U4 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 23:35:57 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lg63h-0002os-9E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 23:35:57 +0000 Received: from vms173003pub.verizon.net ([206.46.173.3]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lg63f-0001UF-Ls for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 23:35:57 +0000 Received: from DR2 ([71.184.212.10]) by vms173003.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KG5005WCTJJIZ3E@vms173003.mailsrvcs.net> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 17:35:44 -0600 (CST) Message-id: From: "dave.riley3" To: "Carl" , "James M. Walker" , , Cc: "600MRG" References: <000e01c99f02$f6f67df0$41b2fea9@W1KW> <2A3326C8358D483CB97E5776EA0833A7@DR2> <189E2993E39D4765841B1F501C87C42D@KITTYMA123> <447FEB36210040C0A6AF424BF72F21C2@ESHOP1> <4EE82775CC244792B0AD72E53FECF3C1@KITTYMA123> <83E85DB621094E32B6E9B4B1D425737F@DR2> Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2009 18:35:41 -0500 MIME-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36 Subject: LF: Re: 600MRG> Re: Re: Looking for HF to LF-Transverter, ... ? Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=response Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 I didn't take it as insulting, just having fun... Life is too short to not have fun @ it... Plug and play is here to stay... Works for me... /17 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carl" To: "dave.riley3" ; "James M. Walker" ; ; Cc: "600MRG" Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 4:59 PM Subject: Re: 600MRG> Re: Re: Looking for HF to LF-Transverter, ... ? >I hadnt meant my post to be insulting Dave, Im sorry that you took it that >way. > > Carl > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "dave.riley3" > To: "Carl" ; "James M. Walker" ; > ; > Cc: "600MRG" > Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 2:39 PM > Subject: Re: 600MRG> Re: Re: Looking for HF to LF-Transverter, ... ? > > >> So take the idea and prototype and roll your own, to perfection even... >> >> This was an example of off the shelf plug and play... >> No shoddy quality was meant or implied... >> >> The final version is ALL SMA, cheaper by the dozen on e-bay>> >> >> http://cgi.ebay.com/Qty-10-SMA-male-to-SMA-male-6-inch-Cables_W0QQitemZ120381823826QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item120381823826&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50 >> >> Still having fun @ ham radio after 55 years of it + SWL.. Ain't it >> something?? >> >> Can't solder or see much any more, but plug and play will get me to the >> wheelchair... >> >> Have a Happy Home Brew... >> >> TNX from Dave @ WD2XSH/17 WN1AAI >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Carl" >> To: "James M. Walker" ; "dave.riley3" >> ; ; >> >> Cc: "600MRG" >> Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 2:20 PM >> Subject: Re: 600MRG> Re: Re: Looking for HF to LF-Transverter, ... ? >> >> >>> Bored, no. But as someone who has spent decades in RF labs Im a bit >>> experienced with connector problems causing grief. >>> >>> If you have something worthwhile to say try and create a useful >>> statement instead of whining. >>> >>> Carl. >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "James M. Walker" >>> To: "Carl" ; "dave.riley3" >>> ; ; >>> >>> Cc: "600MRG" >>> Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 12:59 PM >>> Subject: Re: 600MRG> Re: Re: Looking for HF to LF-Transverter, ... ? >>> >>> >>>> Are you bored or what? This is just one example of an answer to the >>>> initial >>>> question. Lighten up with this stuff. >>>> Jim >>>> WB2FCN/WD2XSH-22 >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Carl" >>>> To: "dave.riley3" ; >>>> ; >>>> Cc: "600MRG" >>>> Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 7:59 AM >>>> Subject: Re: 600MRG> Re: Re: Looking for HF to LF-Transverter, ... ? >>>> >>>> >>>>> WOW, there are 19 RF connections and only the SMA are really long term >>>>> reliable! >>>>> >>>>> Carl >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "dave.riley3" >>>>> To: ; >>>>> Cc: "600MRG" >>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 6:32 AM >>>>> Subject: 600MRG> Re: Re: Looking for HF to LF-Transverter, ... ? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Marco, >>>>>> >>>>>> Indeed the little transverter did well 15 years ago on LowFer >>>>>> frequencies with some help from external L/C selective circuits... >>>>>> I used it with the TS930 and believe that it is still running well... >>>>>> >>>>>> Now life is easier and you can plug and play with some off the shelf >>>>>> items or from e-bay. >>>>>> >>>>>> Here is complete transverter that works: >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.radiocom.net/600M/TxVerter2.jpg >>>>>> >>>>>> Or only use one side for TX or RX >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.radiocom.net/600M/TXconverter.jpg >>>>>> >>>>>> Good luck with this fun project. It is the one I use now... >>>>>> >>>>>> TNX >>>>>> >>>>>> Dave - AA1A >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "Holger 'Geri', DK8KW" >>>>>> To: >>>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 3:59 AM >>>>>> Subject: LF: Re: Looking for HF to LF-Transverter, ... ? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Marco, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> have a look here: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.radiocom.net/txvr.jpg >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I haven't tried it myself but it looks simple enough to give it a >>>>>>> try. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 73 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO (currently on 440.015 kHz, tnx for the reception >>>>>>> reports) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>> From: "Scholz, Marco " >>>>>>> To: >>>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 9:55 PM >>>>>>> Subject: LF: Looking for HF to LF-Transverter, ... ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dear LF-Group, >>>>>>> sorry for bandwidth, i looking for some sort of of mixer/transverter >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> use a shortwave transceiver on 137KHz for WSPR. Can be in >>>>>>> experimental >>>>>>> stage, but i need something to start. To build something from >>>>>>> scratch is >>>>>>> a bit a challenge for me, so i thought i ask around. Maybe someone >>>>>>> has >>>>>>> to sell some parts? >>>>>>> If yes, please send me a mail to dd7pc@gmx.de >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Many thanks, vy73 >>>>>>> Marco >>>>>>> DD7PC >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *********** The Primary 600MRG E-mail List Website is: ********** >>>>>> ******************* http://www.500kc.com/ *********************** >>>>>> ******* Secondary is: http://www.mines.uidaho.edu/~SHMRG/ ******* >>>>>> *** Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to this address: **** >>>>>> ************** majordomo@piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu ************** >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *********** The Primary 600MRG E-mail List Website is: ********** >>>>> ******************* http://www.500kc.com/ *********************** >>>>> ******* Secondary is: http://www.mines.uidaho.edu/~SHMRG/ ******* >>>>> *** Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to this address: **** >>>>> ************** majordomo@piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu ************** >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *********** The Primary 600MRG E-mail List Website is: ********** >>> ******************* http://www.500kc.com/ *********************** >>> ******* Secondary is: http://www.mines.uidaho.edu/~SHMRG/ ******* >>> *** Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to this address: **** >>> ************** majordomo@piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu ************** >>> >> >> >> >> *********** The Primary 600MRG E-mail List Website is: ********** >> ******************* http://www.500kc.com/ *********************** >> ******* Secondary is: http://www.mines.uidaho.edu/~SHMRG/ ******* >> *** Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to this address: **** >> ************** majordomo@piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu ************** >> > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh11.mx.aol.com (rly-mh11.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.147]) by air-mh04.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMH043-61849ce7d9921; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 15:42:28 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh11.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH115-61849ce7d9921; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 15:42:19 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LnePO-0000cy-Gh for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 19:41:34 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LnePO-0000cp-3L for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 19:41:34 +0000 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LnePL-00070G-LJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 19:41:34 +0000 Received: (qmail 26252 invoked by uid 0); 28 Mar 2009 19:40:25 -0000 Received: from 85.178.94.99 by www023.gmx.net with HTTP; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 20:40:25 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 20:40:25 +0100 From: "Dennis" In-Reply-To: <007201c9afda$c31fc3e0$6501a8c0@TORRE> Message-ID: <20090328194025.227840@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <49CBF051.9090707@usa.net> <49CBFB9E.9040903@usa.net> <49CC0310.3040808@telia.com> <200903270850420424.4E77B52F@smtp.wanadoo.fr> <007201c9afda$c31fc3e0$6501a8c0@TORRE> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Authenticated: #4122078 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/xKjtc3MHxFkJFUD3K+ELv/ILLIfBJv/avXSJ7oB yF3OlObFJAxMgLHqm+I6u/kZk3NudK2mlbmg== X-GMX-UID: TxmmBDs4bHIhf6zdBzQ0g40iJihyatAk X-FuHaFi: 0.53 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Subject: Re: LF: Lazy Man's CW made it to Venus and back Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi! May be ;) off topic, but to enrich your collection: German: Perlen vor die Säue (werfen). Polish: (Rzucic/rzucac) perly przed wieprze. 73 Dennis DL6NVC -------- Original-Nachricht -------- > Datum: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 19:24:06 -0000 > Von: "Henrique Pessoa" > An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Betreff: Re: LF: Lazy Man\'s CW made it to Venus and back > Well, for the statistics, a portuguese version same sense is also > available it reads " dar pérolas a porcos ". > 73 Henrique CT1HX > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John RABSON" > To: > Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 7:50 AM > Subject: Re: LF: Lazy Man's CW made it to Venus and back > > > On 26/03/2009 at 23:34 Johan H. Bodin wrote: > > >I didn't know it was an English saying/proverb! The swedish translation > >"Kasta pärlor för svinen" is sometimes used in similar circumstances... > > Very close. The English version has the same origins as Swedish "Casting > pearls before swine". > > 73 > John F5VLF > > > > > -- Neu: GMX FreeDSL Komplettanschluss mit DSL 6.000 Flatrate + Telefonanschluss für nur 17,95 Euro/mtl.!* http://dsl.gmx.de/?ac=OM.AD.PD003K11308T4569a From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd03.mx.aol.com (rly-dd03.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.150]) by air-dd10.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDD102-b6949c352fadb; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 04:25:47 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd03.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD033-b6949c352fadb; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 04:25:32 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lka2O-00006T-SG for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 08:25:08 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lka2O-00006K-IB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 08:25:08 +0000 Received: from psmtp09.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.23]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lka2L-0007VN-TB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 08:25:08 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp09.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KGS00CE9Q1MAK@psmtp09.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 09:24:58 +0100 (MET) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 09:24:51 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <9A558D8F7ED246689CFFC24CFD780E99@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: F1AFJ Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_caIqbcxQwNlZYXgj6Q7y4g)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_caIqbcxQwNlZYXgj6Q7y4g) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Hi Jean-Pierre,the spring is comming i think, it is FiAFJ, sri, Henny pa3cpm, best 73s. --Boundary_(ID_caIqbcxQwNlZYXgj6Q7y4g) Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
Hi Jean-Pierre,the spring is comming i think,
 
it is FiAFJ,
 
sri,
Henny pa3cpm,
best 73s.
--Boundary_(ID_caIqbcxQwNlZYXgj6Q7y4g)-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh11.mx.aol.com (rly-mh11.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.147]) by air-mh02.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMH024-61449cca6de3b7; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 06:13:56 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh11.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH111-61449cca6de3b7; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 06:13:52 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ln93h-0001ds-VU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 10:13:05 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ln93h-0001dj-Iv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 10:13:05 +0000 Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.44]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ln93g-0004JC-8Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 10:13:05 +0000 Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (smtpshost02.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.75]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53ACC51C00E for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 11:12:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31CC7F3864 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 11:12:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.242.4]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24E66F3863 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 11:12:19 +0100 (CET) Received: by webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 567F15CC9; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 11:12:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from 48.35-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (48.35-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [81.241.35.48]) by webmail4.kuleuven.be (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 11:12:19 +0100 Message-ID: <20090327111219.y3bcvqcrev6swg8s@webmail4.kuleuven.be> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 11:12:19 +0100 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 81.241.35.48 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Lazy Man's CW made it to Venus and back Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Wolf, congrats to all involved. I remember that long ago (in the 1980's) there was an 'april fools' =20 article in the april number of CQ-DL where EME was declared an old hat =20 and the first EVE (earth-venus-earth) QSO's were claimed. After 25 years reality takes over ... 73, Rik ON7YD Quoting dl4yhf@freenet.de: > MessageGreetings everyone, > > Not really LF, but QRSS... > > A group of radio amateurs from AMSAT-DL has successfully transmitted > a (very short) message in QRSS, consisting of the two letters "HI" > (im memoriam of old OSCARS) to Venus on 2.4 GHz, and received the > reflection. > Each TX/RX over lasted for about 5 minutes (the travelling time). The > transmitter was a 5 kW magnetron disciplined to a narrow-band > transmitter. Details on the AMSAT-DL website. The German HR TV will > send a documentation tonight at 19:30 (local). The EVE > (Earth-Venus-Earth) details follow tomorrow on Hessischer Rundfunk. > > 73, > Wolf DL4YHF > (from the IUZ in Bochum) > > -- > [1] > > Links: > ------ > [1] =20 > http://adserver.freenet.de/click.ng/site=3Dfn&prod=3Dchetools&kat=3Dinhalt= e&tbl=3Dwebmail&ppos=3D14&TransactionID=3D1238087483333455&rgtg=3D256 > Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db05.mx.aol.com (rly-db05.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.80]) by air-db06.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB061-ac449c4db6b2ec; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 08:20:11 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db05.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB052-ac449c4db6b2ec; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 08:19:57 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ll0B1-0003FE-S3 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 12:19:47 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ll0B1-0003Ez-9C for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 12:19:47 +0000 Received: from imr-d01.mx.aol.com ([205.188.157.39]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ll0Ay-0001XR-UH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 12:19:47 +0000 Received: from F4DTL@aol.com by imr-d01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id l.d51.450e7994 (39952) for ; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 08:19:32 -0400 (EDT) From: F4DTL@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 08:19:31 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5029 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Score: 1.7 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: LF: G3XDV F4DTL Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_d51.450e7994.36f63553_boundary" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --part1_d51.450e7994.36f63553_boundary Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1237637971" -------------------------------1237637971 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Many thanx Mike for this first LF QSO with you. 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Many thanx Mike for this first LF QSO with you.
 
Best regards
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2009 00:23:01 +0000 Received: from vms173009pub.verizon.net ([206.46.173.9]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LmdN4-0001MC-LX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 00:23:01 +0000 Received: from DR2 ([71.184.212.10]) by vms173009.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KH3005GD7PX84CY@vms173009.mailsrvcs.net> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 19:22:46 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <4A6AE023E8F54CDF9ABFC1DB78F176BA@DR2> From: "dave.riley3" To: Cc: "600MRG" References: Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 20:22:45 -0400 MIME-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: WSPR tonight Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0105_01C9AD87.74E9A830" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.1 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_40_50, HTML_MESSAGE,LINES_OF_YELLING autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0105_01C9AD87.74E9A830 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 090325 2318 15 -17 3.6 0.504500 SM6BHZ JO57 30 =20 090325 2322 14 -17 3.6 0.504500 SM6BHZ JO57 30 =20 090325 2330 12 -18 3.6 0.504500 SM6BHZ JO57 30 =20 090325 2336 6 -25 3.6 0.504500 SM6BHZ JO57 30 =20 090325 2342 7 -24 3.6 0.504500 SM6BHZ JO57 30 =20 090325 2350 4 -27 3.8 0.504500 SM6BHZ JO57 30 =20 090325 2354 7 -25 3.8 0.503900 SM6BHZ JO57 30 =20 090326 0000 9 -21 1.4 0.503939 G0NBD IO83 13 =20 090326 0010 14 -18 1.2 0.503882 M0BMU IO91 33 =20 090326 0010 6 -24 1.4 0.503939 G0NBD IO83 13 =20 090326 0012 13 -20 1.2 0.503882 M0BMU IO91 33 QRN S5 from cloud bumpers All sigs good and clear on ARGO =20 TNX from Dave @ FN42pb ------=_NextPart_000_0105_01C9AD87.74E9A830 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
090325 2318  15 -17  3.6  =20 0.504500  SM6BHZ JO57=20 30         
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QRN S5 from cloud bumpers
 
All sigs good and clear on=20 ARGO    
 
 
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boundary="_06b6b152-4cd4-4551-82e5-0c9fe67689ce_" Subject: LF: XGJ_II X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_06b6b152-4cd4-4551-82e5-0c9fe67689ce_ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_cf17156d-e964-43bb-be49-efc22704d1c7_" --_cf17156d-e964-43bb-be49-efc22704d1c7_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Warren and LF once more! The LF propagation was very good this morning, as you can see on the attache= d picture. Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS _________________________________________________________________ Pozvi sv=E9 p=F8=E1tele z Facebooku a Hotmailu do Messengeru! https://www.invite2messenger.net/Default.aspx=3D --_cf17156d-e964-43bb-be49-efc22704d1c7_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Warren and LF once more!
The LF propagation was very good this morn= ing, as you can see on the attached picture.

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16:07:05 +0000 Received: from mailout11.t-online.de ([194.25.134.85]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lnb3n-0001SS-67 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 16:07:05 +0000 Received: from fwd08.aul.t-online.de by mailout11.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 1Lnb3l-0006Sd-02; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 17:07:01 +0100 Received: from e7010 (TtPvM-ZGohy8-CtYSib9XWMLIGXGRQOE93TCSW0MSRv+lnDvXgrnbCEqet9t7D+Q-t@[84.147.191.1]) by fwd08.aul.t-online.de with smtp id 1Lnb3k-1hn9aS0; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 17:07:00 +0100 Message-ID: <005e01c9afbf$38c46860$1402a8c0@e7010> From: "Walter und Marianne Staubach" To: References: <004201c9afaa$79a0c410$1402a8c0@e7010> <0FCC9C7E3D9442C88B89EDE75E634BA9@DR2> Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 17:06:54 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4927.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 X-ID: TtPvM-ZGohy8-CtYSib9XWMLIGXGRQOE93TCSW0MSRv+lnDvXgrnbCEqet9t7D+Q-t X-TOI-MSGID: d078dd62-fdea-4abf-b2be-19810d6a426d X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Re: DI2AG WSPR Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_005B_01C9AFC7.988BEEF0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_005B_01C9AFC7.988BEEF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tnx, Dave, for your effort. Hope the noise will be off. And for Ha-Jo: Tnx f= or your proposal. Looked in my trash-box and found an "EME 505 Netzfilter". As my three lamps have one commmon line, it shouldn`t be too difficult to ma= ke a test in that line. Meanwhile - when working on MF - I should use candle= s :-) 73 Walter =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: dave.riley3=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2009 4:43 PM Subject: LF: Re: DI2AG WSPR Hi Walter, =20 I set the RX last night and came back to find high white noise masking ALL= EU signals, not a trace of any... =20 Will set the traps tonight again... =20 TNX =20 Dave @ /17 =20 =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Walter und Marianne Staubach=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2009 9:38 AM Subject: LF: DI2AG WSPR Dear All on MF,=20 DI2AG is still running in WSPR, 0.5W ERP on 505.090KHz. TNX to= G0HNW for his numerous reports last night and also to F4DTL and DJ6LB. DI2A= G will be transmitting continually throughout day and night until Monday mor= ning. Your reports - also daylight propagation - are welcome via WSPR databa= se or by e-mail. Thanks a lot.=20 73 Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF ------=_NextPart_000_005B_01C9AFC7.988BEEF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Tnx, Dave, for your effort. Hope the noise=20= will be=20 off. And for Ha-Jo: Tnx for your proposal. Looked in my trash-box=20= and=20 found an "EME 505 Netzfilter".
As my three lamps have one commmon line, it= =20 shouldn`t be too difficult to make a test in that line. Meanwhile -=20 when working on MF - I should use candles :-)
73   Walter
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 dave.riley3
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2009 4:43= =20 PM
Subject: LF: Re: DI2AG WSPR

Hi Walter,
 
I set the RX last night and came back to find=20= high=20 white noise masking ALL EU signals, not a trace of=20 any...
 
Will set the traps tonight=20 again...
 
TNX
 
Dave @ /17
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2009 9:= 38=20 AM
Subject: LF: DI2AG WSPR

Dear All on MF,
     &nbs= p;    DI2AG is still=20 running in WSPR, 0.5W ERP on 505.090KHz. TNX to G0HNW for his numerous=20 reports last night and also to F4DTL and DJ6LB. DI2AG will be transmitti= ng=20 continually throughout day and night until Monday morning. Your reports=20= -=20 also daylight propagation - are welcome via WSPR database or by e-mail.=20 Thanks a lot.
73
Walter DI2AG /=20 DJ2LF
------=_NextPart_000_005B_01C9AFC7.988BEEF0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md07.mx.aol.com (rly-md07.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.145]) by air-md09.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD093-91549d2439033b; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 12:23:55 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md07.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD075-91549d2439033b; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 12:23:47 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LogjN-0001oW-Nr for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 17:22:29 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LogjN-0001oN-74 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 17:22:29 +0100 Received: from mailout05.t-online.de ([194.25.134.82]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LogjL-0004kX-KT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 17:22:29 +0100 Received: from fwd00.aul.t-online.de by mailout05.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 1LogiK-0004Oj-04; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 18:21:24 +0200 Received: from e7010 (rxS26MZFwh6MWpxZBqTHFcE4KnIlBVwhWbvLW9DwSNPcg-HOIgvgyXHHBx2yMN5g68@[84.147.227.225]) by fwd00.aul.t-online.de with smtp id 1Loghv-1eVOLY0; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 18:20:59 +0200 Message-ID: <003701c9b21c$afaf00c0$1402a8c0@e7010> From: "Walter und Marianne Staubach" To: Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 18:21:02 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4927.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 X-ID: rxS26MZFwh6MWpxZBqTHFcE4KnIlBVwhWbvLW9DwSNPcg-HOIgvgyXHHBx2yMN5g68 X-TOI-MSGID: 8e8726bd-ad3f-49e6-9987-08c1cdc07aa2 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001,UPPERCASE_50_75=0.591 Subject: LF: MF beacon DI2AG Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0034_01C9B22D.72FF5BA0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0034_01C9B22D.72FF5BA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear All on MF, I am very glad of the many reports for the beacon transmissions in Ma= rch. Many thanks to SM6BHZ / LA6TPA / G7JVN / G3AQC / G4FDD / DG0OPK / DJ6YD / G0HNW / DK6NI / D= L3NDR / AA1A / DJ6LB / OR7T / G4WGT / SQ7MPJ / LA9BEA / G3XVL / MICHAEL / GM= 4ISM / DD7PC / G0KTN / F4DTL / G4JNT 73 Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF ------=_NextPart_000_0034_01C9B22D.72FF5BA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear All on MF,
       I am v= ery glad=20 of the many reports for the beacon transmissions in March. Many thanks=20 to
SM6BHZ / LA6TPA / G7JVN / G3AQC / G4FDD / D= G0OPK /=20 DJ6YD / G0HNW / DK6NI / DL3NDR / AA1A / DJ6LB / OR7T / G4WGT / SQ7MPJ / LA9B= EA /=20 G3XVL / MICHAEL / GM4ISM / DD7PC / G0KTN / F4DTL / G4JNT
73
Walter  DI2AG / DJ2LF
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0034_01C9B22D.72FF5BA0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc04.mx.aol.com (rly-dc04.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.33]) by air-dc06.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDC061-b1649c27f22158; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 13:22:23 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc04.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC042-b1649c27f22158; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 13:21:39 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LkLvQ-0007w6-11 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 17:21:00 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LkLvP-0007vx-6w for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 17:20:59 +0000 Received: from blu0-omc1-s27.blu0.hotmail.com ([65.55.116.38]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LkLvN-0006FH-Ls for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 17:20:59 +0000 Received: from BLU146-W26 ([65.55.116.7]) by blu0-omc1-s27.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 19 Mar 2009 10:20:51 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [196.40.0.241] From: Laurence BY3A-KL1X China To: , , Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 09:20:51 -0800 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <000901c9a81c$6147b5d0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> References: <000901c9a81c$6147b5d0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Mar 2009 17:20:51.0632 (UTC) FILETIME=[0D88CB00:01C9A8B7] X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_a709cc18-5ad4-4fce-a527-99baa20e0581_" Subject: RE: LF: WE2XGR/2 WSPR X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_40_50, HTML_MESSAGE,LINES_OF_YELLING,LINES_OF_YELLING_2,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_a709cc18-5ad4-4fce-a527-99baa20e0581_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Nice signals Jay, congrats.- my location was EK80 not as uploaded to wspr..o= rg. Best sigs were -11 which were just about audible/readible =20 73 - Laurence ti3/ kl1x =20 Chaps Im sorry but I wont be on tonight - and last night is prob the last ni= ght on here in Ti3 we may get on from Guanacaste in Costa Rica but not sure. =20 Heres the raw data Jay. =20 090319 0048 2 -29 1.3 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 18346 -36 090319 0104 5 -27 1.3 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 7 0 090319 0106 6 -25 1.2 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0108 8 -24 1.3 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0110 9 -23 1.3 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0112 9 -23 1.2 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0114 8 -23 1.2 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0116 6 -24 1.3 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0118 6 -25 1.2 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0122 1 -32 1.3 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 10568 -1 090319 0124 6 -25 1.2 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0126 7 -24 1.2 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0128 6 -26 1.4 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0154 2 -27 1.3 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 79 0 090319 0156 2 -28 1.4 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 8491 0 090319 0204 2 -29 1.2 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 17 0 090319 0206 3 -28 1.2 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 39 0 090319 0208 7 -24 1.1 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0214 6 -26 1.1 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 2 0 090319 0216 1 -30 1.3 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 24 0 090319 0220 3 -28 1.1 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 643 0 090319 0222 4 -28 1.1 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 12 0 090319 0228 6 -26 1.2 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0230 6 -25 1.1 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0232 5 -27 1.2 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0234 8 -24 1.2 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0236 9 -23 1.1 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0238 11 -21 1.0 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0240 9 -23 1.0 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0242 6 -24 1.2 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0244 8 -23 1.2 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0246 11 -21 1.1 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0248 11 -21 1.2 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0250 12 -20 1.1 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0252 16 -16 1.1 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0254 14 -17 1.2 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0256 13 -18 1.2 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0258 13 -19 1.1 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0300 10 -22 1.1 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0302 13 -19 1.0 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0304 10 -22 1.1 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0306 10 -22 1.1 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0308 3 -28 1.2 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0310 5 -26 1.1 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0312 3 -28 1.1 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 19803 -11 090319 0314 5 -26 1.2 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 2 0 090319 0318 7 -25 1.0 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0320 10 -23 1.0 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0322 8 -23 1.2 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0324 11 -21 1.1 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0326 13 -19 1.1 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0328 15 -18 1.1 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0330 14 -18 1.1 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0332 14 -18 1.0 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0334 12 -20 1.0 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0336 14 -18 1.1 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0338 14 -18 1.2 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0340 12 -21 1.1 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0342 15 -17 1.0 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0344 18 -15 1.1 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0346 17 -14 1.1 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0348 21 -11 1.2 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0350 21 -11 1.2 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0352 19 -13 1.2 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0354 16 -17 1.1 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0356 14 -19 1.1 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0358 12 -20 1.0 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0400 6 -25 1.2 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 2 0 090319 0402 12 -18 1.2 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0404 12 -19 1.2 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0406 15 -16 1.2 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0408 11 -20 1.2 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0410 9 -23 1.3 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0412 7 -24 1.2 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0418 6 -25 1.2 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0420 5 -26 1.2 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0422 9 -23 1.2 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0424 7 -24 1.2 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 4 0 090319 0426 13 -19 1.2 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0428 16 -15 1.2 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0430 16 -16 1.3 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0432 14 -17 1.3 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0434 9 -22 1.2 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0958 10 -23 1.1 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 1000 10 -22 1.0 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 1002 3 -29 1.2 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 9211 -23 090319 1006 8 -23 1.3 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 1008 7 -24 1.2 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 3 0 090319 1016 4 -28 1.2 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 23 0 090319 1018 2 -29 1.2 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 5139 -17 090319 1028 2 -28 1.2 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 5565 0 090319 1034 3 -29 1.2 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 93 0 090319 1036 3 -29 1.2 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 4865 0 090319 1040 4 -28 1.1 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 1042 2 -30 1.0 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 160 0 =20 =20 =20 > From: jrusgrove@comcast.net > To: SHMRG@piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu; rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; lowfer@= mailman.qth.net > Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 18:53:39 -0400 > Subject: LF: WE2XGR/2 WSPR >=20 > WE2XPR/2 will be transmitting in WSPR mode tonight on 508.52 kHz (507.00 d= ial)...trying for copy by=20 > KL1X DXpedition in Costa Rica. >=20 > Reports from other areas are of course appreciated. >=20 > Jat W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2=20 >=20 >=20 _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail=AE is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast.=20 http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=3DTXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_70faster_032009= =3D --_a709cc18-5ad4-4fce-a527-99baa20e0581_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Nice signals Jay, congrats.- my location was EK80 not as uploaded to wspr..o= rg. Best sigs were -11 which were just about audible/readible
 
73 - Laurence ti3/ kl1x
 
Chaps Im sorry but I wont be on tonight - and last night is prob the last ni= ght on here in Ti3 we may get on from Guanacaste in Costa Rica but not sure.=
 
Heres the raw data Jay.
 
090319 0048   2 -29  1.3   0.508520  WE2XGR FN= 31 57          0 18346  -3= 6
090319 0104   5 -27  1.3   0.508520  WE2X= GR FN31 57          0 &nbs= p;   7    0
090319 0106   6 -25 =20= 1.2   0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57     &= nbsp;    0     1    0
0= 90319 0108   8 -24  1.3   0.508520  WE2XGR FN3= 1 57          0  &nbs= p;  1    0
090319 0110   9 -23  1.3&nb= sp;  0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57      &= nbsp;   0     1    0
090319=20= 0112   9 -23  1.2   0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57&n= bsp;         0   &nbs= p; 1    0
090319 0114   8 -23  1.2 &nb= sp; 0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57       &= nbsp;  0     1    0
090319 0116&n= bsp;  6 -24  1.3   0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57 &n= bsp;        0     1&n= bsp;   0
090319 0118   6 -25  1.2   0.= 508520  WE2XGR FN31 57        &= nbsp; 0     1    0
090319 0122 &n= bsp; 1 -32  1.3   0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57  &n= bsp;       0 10568   -1
090319 01= 24   6 -25  1.2   0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57&nbs= p;         0    = 1    0
090319 0126   7 -24  1.2  = ; 0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57       &nb= sp;  0     1    0
090319 0128&nbs= p;  6 -26  1.4   0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57 &nbs= p;        0     1&nbs= p;   0
090319 0154   2 -27  1.3   0.50= 8520  WE2XGR FN31 57        &nb= sp; 0    79    0
090319 0156   2=20= -28  1.4   0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57   &nb= sp;      0  8491    0
090319= 0204   2 -29  1.2   0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57&= nbsp;         0    17=     0
090319 0206   3 -28  1.2  =20= 0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57        = ;  0    39    0
090319 0208  = ; 7 -24  1.1   0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57   = ;       0     1  = ;  0
090319 0214   6 -26  1.1   0.508520&nb= sp; WE2XGR FN31 57          0&n= bsp;    2    0
090319 0216   1 -3= 0  1.3   0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57    = ;      0    24    0090319 0220   3 -28  1.1   0.508520  WE2XGR=20= FN31 57          0  =20= 643    0
090319 0222   4 -28  1.1 &nbs= p; 0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57       &n= bsp;  0    12    0
090319 0228 &n= bsp; 6 -26  1.2   0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57  &n= bsp;       0     1 &n= bsp;  0
090319 0230   6 -25  1.1   0.508520=   WE2XGR FN31 57         =20= 0     1    0
090319 0232   5= -27  1.2   0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57   &n= bsp;      0     1  &n= bsp; 0
090319 0234   8 -24  1.2   0.508520 = WE2XGR FN31 57          0 = ;    1    0
090319 0236   9 -23&n= bsp; 1.1   0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57    &n= bsp;     0     1    0=
090319 0238  11 -21  1.0   0.508520  WE2XGR FN3= 1 57          0  &nbs= p;  1    0
090319 0240   9 -23  1.0&nb= sp;  0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57      &= nbsp;   0     1    0
090319=20= 0242   6 -24  1.2   0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57&n= bsp;         0   &nbs= p; 1    0
090319 0244   8 -23  1.2 &nb= sp; 0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57       &= nbsp;  0     1    0
090319 0246&n= bsp; 11 -21  1.1   0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57  &= nbsp;       0     1 &= nbsp;  0
090319 0248  11 -21  1.2   0.508520&nbs= p; WE2XGR FN31 57          0&nb= sp;    1    0
090319 0250  12 -20 = ; 1.1   0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57     = ;     0     1    0090319 0252  16 -16  1.1   0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 5= 7          0   &= nbsp; 1    0
090319 0254  14 -17  1.2  = ; 0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57       &nb= sp;  0     1    0
090319 0256&nbs= p; 13 -18  1.2   0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57  &nb= sp;       0     1 &nb= sp;  0
090319 0258  13 -19  1.1   0.508520 = WE2XGR FN31 57          0 = ;    1    0
090319 0300  10 -22 =20= 1.1   0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57     &= nbsp;    0     1    0
0= 90319 0302  13 -19  1.0   0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57&= nbsp;         0   &nb= sp; 1    0
090319 0304  10 -22  1.1  =20= 0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57        = ;  0     1    0
090319 0306 = 10 -22  1.1   0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57   = ;       0     1  = ;  0
090319 0308   3 -28  1.2   0.508520&nb= sp; WE2XGR FN31 57          0&n= bsp;    1    0
090319 0310   5 -2= 6  1.1   0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57    = ;      0     1   = ; 0
090319 0312   3 -28  1.1   0.508520  WE= 2XGR FN31 57          0 19803&n= bsp; -11
090319 0314   5 -26  1.2   0.508520&nbs= p; WE2XGR FN31 57          0&nb= sp;    2    0
090319 0318   7 -25=   1.0   0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57    =       0     1   = 0
090319 0320  10 -23  1.0   0.508520  WE2XGR F= N31 57          0  &n= bsp;  1    0
090319 0322   8 -23  1.2&= nbsp;  0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57      = ;    0     1    0
09031= 9 0324  11 -21  1.1   0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57 = ;         0    =20= 1    0
090319 0326  13 -19  1.1   0.50= 8520  WE2XGR FN31 57        &nb= sp; 0     1    0
090319 0328  15=20= -18  1.1   0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57   &nb= sp;      0     1  &nb= sp; 0
090319 0330  14 -18  1.1   0.508520  WE2XG= R FN31 57          0  = ;   1    0
090319 0332  14 -18  1.0&nb= sp;  0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57      &= nbsp;   0     1    0
090319=20= 0334  12 -20  1.0   0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57 &= nbsp;        0     1&= nbsp;   0
090319 0336  14 -18  1.1   0.5085= 20  WE2XGR FN31 57         = ; 0     1    0
090319 0338  14 -1= 8  1.2   0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57    = ;      0     1   = ; 0
090319 0340  12 -21  1.1   0.508520  WE2XGR=20= FN31 57          0  &= nbsp;  1    0
090319 0342  15 -17  1.0 = ;  0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57      &nb= sp;   0     1    0
090319 03= 44  18 -15  1.1   0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57 &nb= sp;        0     1&nb= sp;   0
090319 0346  17 -14  1.1   0.508520=   WE2XGR FN31 57         =20= 0     1    0
090319 0348  21 -11&= nbsp; 1.2   0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57    &= nbsp;     0     1   =20= 0
090319 0350  21 -11  1.2   0.508520  WE2XGR FN= 31 57          0  &nb= sp;  1    0
090319 0352  19 -13  1.2 &= nbsp; 0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57       = ;   0     1    0
090319 0354=   16 -17  1.1   0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57  = ;        0     1 = ;   0
090319 0356  14 -19  1.1   0.508520&n= bsp; WE2XGR FN31 57          0&= nbsp;    1    0
090319 0358  12 -20&nb= sp; 1.0   0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57    &nb= sp;     0     1    0<= BR>090319 0400   6 -25  1.2   0.508520  WE2XGR= FN31 57          0  =    2    0
090319 0402  12 -18  1.2&nbs= p;  0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57      &n= bsp;   0     1    0
090319 0= 404  12 -19  1.2   0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57 &n= bsp;        0     1&n= bsp;   0
090319 0406  15 -16  1.2   0.50852= 0  WE2XGR FN31 57         = 0     1    0
090319 0408  11 -20=   1.2   0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57    =       0     1   = 0
090319 0410   9 -23  1.3   0.508520  WE2= XGR FN31 57          0 &nb= sp;   1    0
090319 0412   7 -24 = 1.2   0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57     =      0     1    0
= 090319 0418   6 -25  1.2   0.508520  WE2XGR FN= 31 57          0  &nb= sp;  1    0
090319 0420   5 -26  1.2&n= bsp;  0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57      =     0     1    0
090319= 0422   9 -23  1.2   0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57&= nbsp;         0   &nb= sp; 1    0
090319 0424   7 -24  1.2 &n= bsp; 0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57       =    0     4    0
090319 0426&= nbsp; 13 -19  1.2   0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57  =         0     1 =    0
090319 0428  16 -15  1.2   0.508520&nb= sp; WE2XGR FN31 57          0&n= bsp;    1    0
090319 0430  16 -16&nbs= p; 1.3   0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57    &nbs= p;     0     1    0090319 0432  14 -17  1.3   0.508520  WE2XGR FN31=20= 57          0   =   1    0
090319 0434   9 -22  1.2 = ;  0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57      &nb= sp;   0     1    0
090319 09= 58  10 -23  1.1   0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57 &nb= sp;        0     1&nb= sp;   0
090319 1000  10 -22  1.0   0.508520=   WE2XGR FN31 57         =20= 0     1    0
090319 1002   3= -29  1.2   0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57   &n= bsp;      0  9211  -23
090319 1006&nbs= p;  8 -23  1.3   0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57 &nbs= p;        0     1&nbs= p;   0
090319 1008   7 -24  1.2   0.50= 8520  WE2XGR FN31 57        &nb= sp; 0     3    0
090319 1016 &nbs= p; 4 -28  1.2   0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57  &nbs= p;       0    23  &nb= sp; 0
090319 1018   2 -29  1.2   0.508520 =20= WE2XGR FN31 57          0 = 5139  -17
090319 1028   2 -28  1.2   0.508= 520  WE2XGR FN31 57        &nbs= p; 0  5565    0
090319 1034   3 -29  1= .2   0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57     &n= bsp;    0    93    0
090319=20= 1036   3 -29  1.2   0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57&n= bsp;         0  4865  = ;  0
090319 1040   4 -28  1.1   0.508520&nb= sp; WE2XGR FN31 57          0&n= bsp;    1    0
090319 1042   2 -3= 0  1.0   0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57    = ;      0   160    0
 
 

 
> From: jrusgrove@comcast.net
> To: SHMRG@piobaire.mi= nes.uidaho.edu; rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; lowfer@mailman.qth..net
>= ; Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 18:53:39 -0400
> Subject: LF: WE2XGR/2 WSPR>
> WE2XPR/2 will be transmitting in WSPR mode tonight on 508.52= kHz (507.00 dial)...trying for copy by
> KL1X DXpedition in Costa Ri= ca.
>
> Reports from other areas are of course appreciated.
= >
> Jat W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2
>
>

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Find out more. =3D --_a709cc18-5ad4-4fce-a527-99baa20e0581_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md07.mx.aol.com (rly-md07.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.145]) by air-md10.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMD103-91549bed06d367; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 18:20:16 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md07.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD075-91549bed06d367; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 18:19:27 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LjL9W-00076e-8S for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 22:19:22 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LjL9V-00076S-9S for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 22:19:21 +0000 Received: from smtp818.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([77.238.189.18]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LjL9S-0002PK-Hh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 22:19:21 +0000 Received: (qmail 84716 invoked from network); 16 Mar 2009 22:19:12 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=aW+o/BGsCzLe5sF+2Xrvl0Dwr6MxLbT4JghMq+uw3ZmOnWqfqh2mfHjz+cvs87YpgPS+9aGTO5fKlD62ojdB1e7wwQLwdYcjo4YHBiUXe4CrvUdq0DbILImj6loVcx5JNHXhyTqFdrw8Ow/YRC/6sYcFfYjOp6vFdPe/m/EW9BM= ; Received: from unknown (HELO Lark) (alan.melia@213.122.3.124 with login) by smtp818.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Mar 2009 22:19:10 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: e7So_R8VM1kVTmFKtSCmAUjrOPPRdW5cCOvVMVuvWWUxn9A.nWy8isl87hx2tItLs4c0wL.ImIBxhNaFdE5wyPypKszEzEfVnXRwmdHE9U7UlRHG7i_NPsK.b08LayT0kaoMkiae6FPlu8febjrHLRIoHkYoTmh3RFwvLySLDeMfH0yi2lzTX.fDZaPhQXkBd9btUPcSWziyx4Z.L4dHKzBGWA-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <003001c9a685$3ac94560$0900a8c0@AM> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <009001c9a588$7eb02c60$6401a8c0@asus> <00e001c9a5a7$f07216a0$6401a8c0@asus> <826BA6086575402A8C87062492069F5A@AGB> <004501c9a623$a4bf81d0$6401a8c0@asus> <2ED02F4327204E3C903828F9E18AA72B@AGB> <001e01c9a665$ebeac870$6401a8c0@asus> <00be01c9a66e$c8bfdbc0$0900a8c0@AM> <004a01c9a677$2a8b48a0$6401a8c0@asus> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 22:10:20 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Gary I think Andy answered the question. My list downloads are coming in strange orders sometimes. Alan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 8:38 PM Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software > Alan, > > When you wrote :- > my only comment is that you may have too much gain in the system. > > Are you meaning sound card or receiver gain? > > Gary. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Alan Melia > Sent: 16 March 2009 19:38 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software > > Hi Gary my only comment is that you may have too much gain in the system. It > is sometimes better to have the noise further down nearer the axis. > > I am afraid there is a major problem with this kind of beacon, when the > fading period is shorter than the sampling interval, so you dont really know > what the path is doing. The only reliable points are the peaks, the troughs > dont really mean anything without some very sophisticated analysis and > probably two spaced receivers. However it does give a snapshot of the band > without taking up too much bandwidth (this was what was required for 5MHz > too). Despite all the data collected very little analysis has actually be > done on the 5MHz data collected by this program. The one succesfull bit of > work was that published in Radcom by Marcis Walden G0IJZ. I used it for some > time whilst Andy was testing the Poldhu beacon on 160m and also during the > 1st two months that ran. I was certainly surprised by the daytime path on > 160m from here. I have seen the data collected in Canada via Joe Craig VO1NA > and it is difficult to see how to use it. > > Still if you dont collect the data you will never know!! > > Alan G3NYK > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gary - G4WGT" > To: > Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 6:35 PM > Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > Hi Graham, LF, > > > > > > > > The original HTML Code for the 2 minute refresh is still inserted into the > > page format, so upload is 30 minute intervals with Syncback & 2 minute > > refresh. I have left the refresh in case I revert back to the original > > grabber page. I will look at changing it if I continue to use the beacon > > chart upload. > > > > > > > > I would like to have feedback from the LF group regarding the page, if you > > check it out periodically, is it useful to you, what are you looking for. > > > > > > > > You can view the chart on my web site at :- > > > > > > > > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html > > > > > > > > 73 > > > > > > > > Gary - G4WGT. > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham > > Sent: 16 March 2009 17:20 > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > > > > > Hi Gary, > > > > > > > > The page seemed to refresh quite often ... are there two settings ? > > > > > > > > G .. > > > > > > > > From: Gary - G4WGT > > > > Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:40 AM > > > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > > > Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > > > > > Hi Graham, LF, > > > > > > > > You wrote :- > > > > >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute > > intervals. <<< that could be backed off to 15 mins as the beacon only > > sends every 15 ?? > > > > > > > > I mentioned in my previous mail to ignore the text on the page as it was > > originally for grabber 1 for when I upgrade the web site (to a new design > & > > better navigation etc), also mentioned is that upload is every 30 minutes. > > > > > > > > If the uploaded chart proves useful or interesting to operators & viewers > > then I will change the text & make it a permanent feature for the > > foreseeable future. > > > > > > > > BTW :- > > > > > > > > For those of you who are not familiar with the chart - > > > > > > > > The RED trace is Andy's (G4JNT) beacon signal & the BLACK trace is the > noise > > level at my QTH. > > > > > > > > The Blue & GREEN are not in use & should be ignored on this chart as they > > are for the other beacons used when monitoring on the 5MHz allocation. > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > Gary - G4WGT > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham > > Sent: 15 March 2009 22:17 > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > > > > > Gary.. > > > > > > > > That looks good ... 0500 looks best time for a qso .. see you then Smile > > emoticon > > > > > > > > >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute > > intervals. <<< that could be backed off to 15 mins as the beacon only > > sends every 15 ?? > > > > > > > > the 15 db over the noise in day time is the same at this qth .. looks > like > > the big dips round 1900 where just when we where testing .. typical hihi > > > > > > > > tnx- G .. > > > > > > > > From: Gary - G4WGT > > > > Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 7:55 PM > > > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > > > Subject: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > > > > > LF, > > > > > > > > I have now got the software, Syncback running correctly (I think). > > > > > > > > The purpose of this is to upload the chart from Andy's beacon as received > > here to my web site periodically, ie. every 30 minutes. > > > > > > > > I now have a receiver running 24/7 monitoring Andy,s beacon on 503.7KHz. > > > > > > > > You can view the chart on my web site at :- > > > > > > > > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html > > > > > > > > For the moment ignore the text on the page as it is originally designed to > > use with the 500KHz grabber when I renew my web site design. If it is a > > useful upload I will make it a permanent feature but may have to extend > the > > frequency coverage of grabber 1 so not to overload the PC with operations > > which will cause the PC to struggle. > > > > > > > > Let me have your comments please. > > > > > > > > 73 > > > > > > > > Gary - G4WGT. > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT > > Sent: 15 March 2009 16:10 > > To: LF -RSGB LF Group > > Subject: LF: Syncback software > > > > > > > > Hi LF, > > > > > > > > If anyone is using Syncback software & can help, please. > > > > > > > > I am tying to upload a file to my website who's filename does not change, > > only the file size changes. I tried to do it with Argo-upload but failed > so > > I downloaded Syncback & still failing. > > > > > > > > Syncback gives me the following message :- > > > > > > > > ********************************** > > > > Can connect, but unable to change to destination directory: > > > > /chart01.bmp:not a directory > > > > ********************************** > > > > The Syncback help does not give me the answer. > > > > > > > > Any help will be appreciated > > > > > > > > Or > > > > > > > > Will Argo-Upload do it? > > > > > > > > Or > > > > > > > > Is there something else to do it? > > > > > > > > Thanks in anticipation, > > > > > > > > 73, > > > > > > > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.13/2001 - Release Date: 03/14/09 > > 06:54:00 > > > > _____ > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.15/2003 - Release Date: 03/15/09 > > 14:07:00 > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da01.mx.aol.com (rly-da01.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.75]) by air-da02.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA024-a4c49cd12c0396; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 13:54:25 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da01.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA014-a4c49cd12c0396; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 13:54:09 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LnGF3-0005Dg-Cy for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 17:53:17 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LnGF3-0005DX-1L for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 17:53:17 +0000 Received: from mailout01.t-online.de ([194.25.134.80]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LnGF0-0001Uq-BI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 17:53:16 +0000 Received: from fwd09.aul.t-online.de by mailout01.t-online.de with smtp id 1LnGEv-0006CL-04; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 18:53:09 +0100 Received: from e7010 (TFuMOmZfQhUb8aUkJN4Le8SCCJoIir0AXUbcRQSWjBJKuNtVQUYD9DN4fu8tsc+gCa@[84.147.199.114]) by fwd09.aul.t-online.de with smtp id 1LnGEi-0DSqTw0; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 18:52:56 +0100 Message-ID: <000a01c9af04$dbdd8e70$1402a8c0@e7010> From: "Walter und Marianne Staubach" To: Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 18:52:55 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4927.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 X-ID: TFuMOmZfQhUb8aUkJN4Le8SCCJoIir0AXUbcRQSWjBJKuNtVQUYD9DN4fu8tsc+gCa X-TOI-MSGID: 5b29243e-6eb2-4124-8483-b4d431a04530 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: DI2AG WSPR Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C9AF0D.3D67FAB0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C9AF0D.3D67FAB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear All on MF, DI2AG is transmitting in WSPR on 505.090KHz from now to Monday morni= ng 7:00UTC. Duty cycle 33%, power 27dBm ERP. I would be glad to receive your reports, also continues series by daylight p= ropagation, please via WSPR database. 73 Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C9AF0D.3D67FAB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear All on MF,
       =20= DI2AG is=20 transmitting in WSPR on 505.090KHz from now to Monday morning 7:00UTC. Duty=20 cycle 33%, power 27dBm ERP.
I would be glad to receive your reports, al= so=20 continues series by daylight propagation, please via WSPR database.
73
Walter  DI2AG / DJ2LF
 
------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C9AF0D.3D67FAB0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma03.mx.aol.com (rly-ma03.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.47]) by air-ma03.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMA031-89949abf629233; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 10:07:42 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma03.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA033-89949abf629233; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 10:07:24 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Le9jX-0003HJ-Sk for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 15:07:07 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Le9jX-0003HA-HG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 15:07:07 +0000 Received: from mailout10.t-online.de ([194.25.134.21]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Le9jW-0006Lk-UZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 15:07:07 +0000 Received: from fwd01.aul.t-online.de by mailout10.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 1Le9jV-0003cw-03; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:07:05 +0100 Received: from e7010 (EB7IjTZYghisulrOi-9fDojvSthPfJSjc4l2h9SzYtkDEOeikk0UGym7w6UVysdwnN@[84.147.201.14]) by fwd01.aul.t-online.de with smtp id 1Le9iK-0pVe0e0; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 16:05:52 +0100 Message-ID: <001801c99b48$61ac1d30$1402a8c0@e7010> From: "Walter und Marianne Staubach" To: Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 16:05:50 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4927.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 X-ID: EB7IjTZYghisulrOi-9fDojvSthPfJSjc4l2h9SzYtkDEOeikk0UGym7w6UVysdwnN X-TOI-MSGID: 9b2a91db-0614-472b-9e73-5c34acf184f6 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: WSPR-Test Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0015_01C99B50.C173A3C0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C99B50.C173A3C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sorry for two mails with the same contents. German saying: Uebereifer schadet nur. Please excuse Walter DI2AG ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C99B50.C173A3C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Sorry for two mails with the same=20 contents.
German saying: Uebereifer schadet nur.
Please excuse
Walter DI2AG
 
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MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Lazy Man's CW made it to Venus and back Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Wolf, LF Group, Congratulations on an excellent achievement - I expect it has broken a few DX records! I will be interested to hear more about how it was done, when information becomes available. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da06.mx.aol.com (rly-da06.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.80]) by air-da08.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDA083-a7149c2386614a; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 08:19:56 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da06.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA061-a7149c2386614a; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 08:19:52 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LkHDU-0004SN-Le for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 12:19:20 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LkHDU-0004SE-5P for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 12:19:20 +0000 Received: from smtp5-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.5]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LkHDS-00013q-8p for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 12:19:20 +0000 Received: from smtp5-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp5-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E5C5D481FA for ; 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SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) TNX Victor 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj victor13@online.nl a =E9crit : > Hi,Marco,Jean-Pierre,Nicolas, > > good signals in a QRSS60 screen, > > 73 > > Victor > PA3FNY > JO22NC > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf02.mx.aol.com (rly-mf02.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.172]) by air-mf01.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMF012-94549bfe9b12b; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 14:19:45 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf02.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF023-94549bfe9b12b; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 14:19:31 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LjdsU-0004zo-Ev for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; 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charset="us-ascii" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 At 1811z John Rabson F5VLF 58800 Cervon France JN17vg From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh05.mx.aol.com (rly-mh05.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.141]) by air-mh03.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMH034-bd749ce74ee12f; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 15:05:26 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh05.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH057-bd749ce74ee12f; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 15:05:20 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lndp6-0000Bk-Ii for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; 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(v4.0.7) Professional Organization: Ed Lesnichy X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1817902828.20090328220324@dx.ru> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 1.3 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.332 Subject: LF: SO5AS Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------531273C1745AE70" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------------531273C1745AE70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear LF enthusiasts! I have internet now on Machta SO5AS on abt 137.710 in QRSS3 now CQ 73! 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Tue, 03 Mar 2009 06:26:05 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db10.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB106-af049ad13ac14d; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 06:25:40 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LeSk2-0006hi-5e for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 11:24:54 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LeSk1-0006hZ-R5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 11:24:53 +0000 Received: from mua02.mx.cix.co.uk ([212.241.168.151]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LeSk0-00040L-P4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 11:24:53 +0000 X-Envelope-From: tsmithers@cix.co.uk Received: from cix.co.uk (79-76-249-145.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com [79.76.249.145]) by mua02.mx.cix.co.uk (8.13.4/CIX/8.13.6) with SMTP id n23BOnH0025057; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 11:24:50 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 11:24 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) From: tsmithers@cix.co.uk (Trevor Smithers) To: w1tag@charter.net, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, shmrg@piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu CC: tsmithers@cix.co.uk In-Reply-To: <49AC7CD4.8080900@charter.net> Message-Id: X-Ameol-Version: 2.53.2014, Windows 2000 build 2600 (Service Pack 2) X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: Re: LF: WE2XGR/3 WSPR Monday Night X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Would be worth posting all WSPR activity announcements on the wsprnet.org chat page as well. Not only would it increase the awareness of LF activity but might also speed up the inclusion of the LF frequencies on both the "stations active" page and the "propagation map" page which at the moment only cover hf frequencies. 73 to all Trevor G0KTN From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da07.mx.aol.com (rly-da07.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.81]) by air-da05.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDA051-a7c49b3e42721b; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 11:28:55 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da07.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA074-a7c49b3e42721b; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 11:28:43 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LgKvN-0006S1-13 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 15:28:21 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LgKvM-0006Rs-JL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 15:28:20 +0000 Received: from smtp-vbr8.xs4all.nl ([194.109.24.28]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LgKvL-0007Jl-Rx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 15:28:20 +0000 Received: from organisa-c1c456 (ndb.demon.nl [82.161.81.65]) by smtp-vbr8.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n28FSAPP084604 for ; Sun, 8 Mar 2009 16:28:19 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from roelof@ndb.demon.nl) Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2009 15:27:58 -0000 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "Roelof Bakker" MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1794381892.23372.1236524009509.JavaMail.mail@webmail03> Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1794381892.23372.1236524009509.JavaMail.mail@webmail03> User-Agent: Opera Mail/9.63 (Win32) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: energy saving bulbs Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Peter, I have been using these for years now and never encountered a problem. The best way to find out though is just buy one and test it! 73, Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db02.mx.aol.com (rly-db02.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.77]) by air-db05.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDB052-ab049b450b61b6; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 19:12:01 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db02.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB026-ab049b450b61b6; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 19:11:52 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LgS9g-0004JK-AR for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 23:11:36 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LgS9f-0004JB-Ny for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 23:11:35 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.159]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LgS9d-0003zu-Uo for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 23:11:35 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3414.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 6FD8E1C00082 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 2009 00:11:26 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.31.236]) by mwinf3414.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id B05621C00081 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 2009 00:11:23 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20090308231123722.B05621C00081@mwinf3414.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <1A47F6F844B242AFA136436323EBAB2D@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <0566EF6DE20B4249A3E74859BF9BA2C6@AGB> <9C03FBF153AB478A9B0DBC5580CF20D2@AGB> <28FA0F184B25444F8BA2F1EC5FC42C04@AGB> <006101c9a01b$0d14fc10$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <839B448A31F0490FAC0789261C271A6C@AGB> <892948FBAAB84D3C9C48310A7EA05737@p4> In-Reply-To: <892948FBAAB84D3C9C48310A7EA05737@p4> Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 23:11:22 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8064.206 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8064.206 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Ok so who missed this quick qsy ? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002A_01C9A043.329A0F20" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_002A_01C9A043.329A0F20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ok Mark Little odd , sine wave in the bottom left hand looked a bit novel as well hi= =20 G ..=20 From: Mark=20 Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 10:18 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: LF: Re: Ok so who missed this quick qsy ?=20 Graham, Not sure what u are referring to.... =20 The transmission that starts off a little unstable and ends up on 504.5 is S= M6BHZ in WSPR mode. I saw the same start-up frequency drift yesterday too. The signals in-band h= owever.. ??? regards Mark GM4ISM ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Graham=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 9:53 PM Subject: LF: Ok so who missed this quick qsy ?=20 Whilst watching Andys beacon ..... captured this ...=20 Oops a daisy seems to be the appropriate technical expression=20 (the wavy line is feature of the R5003)=20 1800 Hz =3D 504 Khz=20 >>> http://uk500khz.googlegroups.com/web/capt0903082130.jpg <<< http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/ufos-and-things-that-go-beep G ..=20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.9/1989 - Release Date: 03/07/09=20= 18:43:00 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.9/1990 - Release Date: 03/08/09 17= :17:00 ------=_NextPart_000_002A_01C9A043.329A0F20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ok Mark
 
Little odd , sine wave in the bottom left h= and=20 looked a bit novel as well hi
 
G ..

From: Mark
Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 10:18 PM
Subject: LF: Re: Ok so who missed this quick qsy ?=20

Graham,
Not sure what u are referring to.... =20  
The transmission that starts off a little u= nstable=20 and ends up on 504.5 is SM6BHZ in WSPR mode.
I saw the same start-up frequency drift yes= terday=20 too. The signals in-band however.. ???
regards
Mark GM4ISM
----- Original Message -----
Graham
Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 9:53=20 PM
Subject: LF: Ok so who missed this=20= quick=20 qsy ?

Whilst watching Andys beacon ..... captur= ed this=20 ...
 
Oops a daisy seems to  be the=20  appropriate   technical expression
 
(the wavy line is feature of the R5003)=20
 
1800 Hz =3D 504 Khz
 
 
 
G ..


No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG -=20 www.avg.com
Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.9/1989 - Release= =20 Date: 03/07/09 18:43:00


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------=_NextPart_000_002A_01C9A043.329A0F20-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df08.mx.aol.com (rly-df08.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.21]) by air-df02.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDF022-57149cfcf5e352; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 15:43:38 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df08.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF088-57149cfcf5e352; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 15:43:28 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lo0uH-0005AF-Qb for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 20:42:57 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lo0uH-0005A5-Ec for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 20:42:57 +0100 Received: from mailout.toya.net.pl ([217.113.224.27] ident=postfix) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lo0uF-0007xB-2J for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 20:42:57 +0100 Received: from localhost (unknown [192.168.120.26]) by lazir.toya.net.pl (TOYAnet MailServer) with ESMTP id 5A1F08C1E2 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 21:42:23 +0200 (CEST) X-TOYA-AV: AntyVir-Skaner at toya.net.pl Received: from lazir.toya.net.pl ([192.168.120.25]) by localhost (antyvir.toya.net.pl [192.168.120.26]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id I805wRWSuSPH for ; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 21:42:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.11.178.152] (lazir [217.113.224.3]) (Authenticated sender: unimlyn) by lazir.toya.net.pl (TOYAnet MailServer) with ESMTP id 03E0D8C198 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 21:42:22 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <49CFCF1E.8040702@toya.net.pl> Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 21:42:22 +0200 From: =?UTF-8?B?UGlvdHIgTcWCeW5hcnNraQ==?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000501c9b09e$561f8f40$0b01a8c0@weazle> In-Reply-To: <000501c9b09e$561f8f40$0b01a8c0@weazle> X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: OT-Frequency question Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) J. B. Weazle McCreath wrote: >Hello LFers, > >Do any of you happen to know if the British Coast Guard does >any weather or marine safety broadcasts using HF SITOR? >If so, can you give me some frequencies or point me to a >source of such information. Thanks in advance. > >73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL >Solar and wind powered >Lowfer " EAR" 188.830 >EN93dr > >http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle > > > > > hello J.B. maybe it will not provide the entire help you wanted but as i read in the 18th edition of Klingenfuss "2000 (year) guide to utility radio stations" the United Kingdom Coast Guard (UKCG) was using the following qrg's: (all in kiloHertz) UKCG Aberdeen 2226,2596,2691 .... Clyde 1883 ... Falmouth 2226,2670 Holyhead 1880 Humber 2226 Milford Haven 1767 Shetland 1770 Solent 1641, 2596 Stornoway 1743 Tyne Tees 2719 Yarmouth 1869,2596 73, peter, sq7mpj qth: lodz,poland/jo91rs/ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma05.mx.aol.com (rly-ma05.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.49]) by air-ma03.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMA031-8a749bfece92f0; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 14:33:20 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma05.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA051-8a749bfece92f0; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 14:33:16 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lje5s-00059o-2k for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 18:32:52 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lje5r-00059f-LB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 18:32:51 +0000 Received: from blu0-omc2-s7.blu0.hotmail.com ([65.55.111.82]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lje5p-0001lb-6k for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 18:32:51 +0000 Received: from BLU146-W5 ([65.55.111.72]) by blu0-omc2-s7.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 17 Mar 2009 11:32:40 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [196.40.0.241] From: Laurence BY3A-KL1X China To: , Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 10:32:40 -0800 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Mar 2009 18:32:40.0844 (UTC) FILETIME=[C132DCC0:01C9A72E] X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_405e07a6-548d-4031-a431-d8d16fe0857e_" Subject: LF: One more night X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_405e07a6-548d-4031-a431-d8d16fe0857e_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 Ill run again on 137.775/781 dot 60 slow from EK80. It is very noisy but loo= ks like we had some success last night. The grabber appears to run http://kl= 1x.com/dx00000.jpg. =20 Ill move tomorrow to 500Khz region =20 Laurence TI3/KL1X _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live=99 Groups: Create an online spot for your favorite groups to me= et. http://windowslive.com/online/groups?ocid=3DTXT_TAGLM_WL_groups_032009=3D --_405e07a6-548d-4031-a431-d8d16fe0857e_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable  
Ill run again on 137.775/781 dot 60 slow from EK80. It is very noisy but loo= ks like we had some success last night. The grabber appears to run http://kl1x.com/dx00000.jpg.
 
Ill move tomorrow to 500Khz region
 
Laurence TI3/KL1X

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Check it out. =3D --_405e07a6-548d-4031-a431-d8d16fe0857e_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md02.mx.aol.com (rly-md02.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.140]) by air-md09.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMD093-8ef49aa59f54; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 04:48:56 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md02.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD027-8ef49aa59f54; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 04:48:39 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LdiHi-0008Cd-Co for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 09:48:34 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LdiHi-0008CT-0e for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 09:48:34 +0000 Received: from mx3.mail.ru ([94.100.176.17]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LdiHh-0007yI-3M for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 09:48:33 +0000 Received: from [79.98.8.6] (port=2737 helo=EFREMOV) by mx3.mail.ru with asmtp id 1LdiHb-000Pih-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 12:48:27 +0300 X-Nat-Received: 172.16.10.160 Message-ID: <002601c99a52$ddafede0$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> From: "Andrey rn3agc" To: References: Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 09:47:44 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: Ok X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: AGC YO 28-02.jpg Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Thanks Henny! 73 Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV > Captur AGC YO > Henny pa3cpm > 73s > Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: > AGC YO 28-02.jpg > > Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde > bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden > afgehandeld. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc07.mx.aol.com (rly-dc07.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.36]) by air-dc08.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDC082-b2d49b25b5028c; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 06:32:36 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc07.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC071-b2d49b25b5028c; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 06:32:35 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LfulR-0003GY-M2 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 11:32:21 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LfulR-0003GP-9i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 11:32:21 +0000 Received: from vms173019pub.verizon.net ([206.46.173.19]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LfulP-00055V-SL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 11:32:21 +0000 Received: from DR2 ([71.184.212.10]) by vms173019.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KG4004MOW1IMXSY@vms173019.mailsrvcs.net> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 05:32:07 -0600 (CST) Message-id: <2A3326C8358D483CB97E5776EA0833A7@DR2> From: "dave.riley3" To: , Cc: "600MRG" References: <000e01c99f02$f6f67df0$41b2fea9@W1KW> Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2009 06:32:05 -0500 MIME-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Looking for HF to LF-Transverter, ... ? Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Marco, Indeed the little transverter did well 15 years ago on LowFer frequencies with some help from external L/C selective circuits... I used it with the TS930 and believe that it is still running well... Now life is easier and you can plug and play with some off the shelf items or from e-bay. Here is complete transverter that works: http://www.radiocom.net/600M/TxVerter2.jpg Or only use one side for TX or RX http://www.radiocom.net/600M/TXconverter.jpg Good luck with this fun project. It is the one I use now... TNX Dave - AA1A ----- Original Message ----- From: "Holger 'Geri', DK8KW" To: Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 3:59 AM Subject: LF: Re: Looking for HF to LF-Transverter, ... ? > Marco, > > have a look here: > > http://www.radiocom.net/txvr.jpg > > I haven't tried it myself but it looks simple enough to give it a try. > > 73 > > Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO (currently on 440.015 kHz, tnx for the reception > reports) > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Scholz, Marco " > To: > Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 9:55 PM > Subject: LF: Looking for HF to LF-Transverter, ... ? > > > Dear LF-Group, > sorry for bandwidth, i looking for some sort of of mixer/transverter to > use a shortwave transceiver on 137KHz for WSPR. Can be in experimental > stage, but i need something to start. To build something from scratch is > a bit a challenge for me, so i thought i ask around. Maybe someone has > to sell some parts? > If yes, please send me a mail to dd7pc@gmx.de > > Many thanks, vy73 > Marco > DD7PC > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da03.mx.aol.com (rly-da03.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.77]) by air-da05.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDA053-a5b49aeab0a49; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 11:23:43 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da03.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA033-a5b49aeab0a49; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 11:23:42 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Letsd-0006YX-HX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 16:23:35 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Letsd-0006YO-5H for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 16:23:35 +0000 Received: from mx38.mail.ru ([94.100.176.52]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Letsb-0006zQ-UN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 16:23:35 +0000 Received: from [79.98.8.6] (port=16964 helo=EFREMOV) by mx38.mail.ru with asmtp id 1LetsV-000JMa-01 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 19:23:27 +0300 X-Nat-Received: 172.16.10.160 Message-ID: <002001c99ce5$8b5b9a90$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> From: "Andrey rn3agc" To: References: <000a01c99a91$a54a1180$1402a8c0@e7010><20090301205328.1s1wth6swu0w80c4@webmail4.kuleuven.be> <20090301205958.za3harvgnsowkw8w@webmail4.kuleuven.be> <49AAF55A.8070106@toya.net.pl> <49ABA94B.9040106@mbsks.franken.de> <004401c99b78$02cb52b0$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 16:20:05 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: Ok X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: OK0EMW audible Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-2"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hello Lubos, LF, Last night beacon OK0EMW also was audible. 73 Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV > Hello Andrey, LF! > That´s fine, 549 is good report for my 1W ERP. Thank you for your report! > > Sposiba i 73! > > Lubos, OK2BVG > > *********************************** >> >> From: rn3agc@mail.ru >> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 20:46:33 +0000 >> Subject: LF: OK0EMW audible >> >> Hello Lubos, LF, >> OK0EMW this evening audible in Moscow, 549. >> >> 73 >> Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV >> > > > > Stáhněte si zcela nový Messenger 2009! Klikni zde! From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc01.mx.aol.com (rly-dc01.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.30]) by air-dc09.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC094-b0249cfc1c3108; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 14:45:45 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc01.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC016-b0249cfc1c3108; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 14:45:25 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lnzzk-0004YD-I1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 19:44:32 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lnzzk-0004Y4-3Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 19:44:32 +0100 Received: from fish2.hurontel.on.ca ([216.46.129.163]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lnzzh-0002vT-P2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 19:44:32 +0100 Received: from weazle (pppoe.dyn-216.46.157.246.hurontel.on.ca [216.46.157.246]) by fish2.hurontel.on.ca (Spam Firewall) with SMTP id 15CCD842012 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 14:44:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from weazle (pppoe.dyn-216.46.157.246.hurontel.on.ca [216.46.157.246]) by fish2.hurontel.on.ca with SMTP id Ox4A0aGUcbw9zumN for ; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 14:44:05 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <000501c9b09e$561f8f40$0b01a8c0@weazle> From: "J. B. Weazle McCreath" To: Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 19:44:02 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: OT-Frequency question Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hello LFers, Do any of you happen to know if the British Coast Guard does any weather or marine safety broadcasts using HF SITOR? If so, can you give me some frequencies or point me to a source of such information. Thanks in advance. 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL Solar and wind powered Lowfer " EAR" 188.830 EN93dr http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de11.mx.aol.com (rly-de11.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.147]) by air-de05.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDE054-51749be397f2cc; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 07:35:30 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de11.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE118-51749be397f2cc; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 07:35:28 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LjB68-0003o3-HQ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 11:35:12 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LjB68-0003nu-5O for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 11:35:12 +0000 Received: from vms173003pub.verizon.net ([206.46.173.3]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LjB63-0003RO-9N for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 11:35:12 +0000 Received: from DR2 ([71.184.212.10]) by vms173003.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KGL003YIK5OGV4D@vms173003.mailsrvcs.net> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 06:34:36 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <05E5B239E70F4A94A4FB69BB7361F196@DR2> From: "dave.riley3" To: References: <200903141634.37933.ve8rt@xplornet.com> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 06:34:34 -0500 MIME-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36 Subject: LF: Re: Getting started, maybe Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Ron, An E-Probe is quite small and does wonders under certain conditions... It is also most portable, so that is a plus... Back in the lowfer days I used one for best DX, especially when out of near field E noises and more so when placed against a tall tree... Here is some info: http://www.radiopassioni.it/pdf/pa0rdt-Mini-Whip.PDF http://www.arrl.org/tis/info/pdf/0109031.pdf Just keep the probe as far away as possible from the house mains neutral which carries all manner of RF to the antenna where you will re-hear it... Remote, battery operated with decoupled coax served best here... A gel-cell will last for months... Good Luck Dave @ WD2XSH/17 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Thompson" To: "blacksheep" Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 5:34 PM Subject: LF: Getting started, maybe > I've been reading the occasional posting to the list, wondering if I > could > find some time and money to work with. As we do not yet have licences for > the 500KHz band, the best place to start would be setting up for > receiving. > > From my location is it likely that I could receive any amateur stations > on > 600 metres? Any recommendations for a relatively compact antenna? I do > have > a reasonably good receiver that covers the band, a Ten Tec SP-325 (crystal > oven oscillators). > -- > Ron Thompson, VE8RT > Yellowknife, NT, Canada > 62 28.060 N 114 20.648 W Grid Square DP22tl > "Who are are these that fly as a cloud, and as doves to their window?" Is > 60:8 > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df03.mx.aol.com (rly-df03.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.16]) by air-df05.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDF053-53a49d2856c399; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 17:05:15 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df03.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF033-53a49d2856c399; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 17:04:47 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lol80-0002qf-HO for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 22:04:12 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lol80-0002qW-4I for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 22:04:12 +0100 Received: from fwx.uvtc.net ([195.22.25.2] helo=uvtcmail.se) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lol7y-0006SG-8W for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 22:04:12 +0100 thread-index: AcmyRCw+Ue7d//+RRh+Sn9hoechuEA== X-MEFilter-Version: 6.5.0 Received: from radiorummet ([87.227.51.55]) by uvtcmail.se with MailEnable ESMTP; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 22:03:41 +0100 Message-ID: From: "Gus" To: References: In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 23:03:39 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.4325 Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message Importance: normal X-ME-Bayesian: 0.000000 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_FONT_BIG=0.256,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Beacons Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01C9B254.EDCF69C0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_FONT_BIG, HTML_MESSAGE,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C9B254.EDCF69C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dave and LF, I run WSPR beacon this evening Dial 505.5 Tx freq 507.0 73 de Gus SM6BHZ ----- Original Message -----=20 From: dave.riley3=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 10:07 PM Subject: LF: Beacons Any 600M beacons or sigs from EU tonight?? 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Dave and LF,
 
I run WSPR beacon this evening Dial 505.5 Tx= freq=20 507.0
 
73 de Gus SM6BHZ
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 10:07= =20 PM
Subject: LF: Beacons

Any 600M beacons or sigs from EU=20 tonight??
 
 
TNX
 
Dave @ WD2XSH/17
 
 
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rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf02.mx.aol.com (rly-mf02.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.172]) by air-mf03.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMF032-94449cde2db1fd; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 04:42:11 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf02.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF022-94449cde2db1fd; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 04:42:05 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LnU68-0003Dn-WD for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 08:41:00 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LnU68-0003De-IL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 08:41:00 +0000 Received: from imo-m25.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.6] helo=imo-m25.mail.aol.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LnU66-0006ux-DU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 08:41:00 +0000 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-m25.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id l.c24.59af079b (37518) for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 04:41:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Silver (g229123176.adsl.alicedsl.de [92.229.123.176]) by cia-ma08.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMA083-928e49cde28950; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 04:40:48 -0400 Message-ID: <02803F019014433F8238BE62E2FC3BAD@Silver> From: "Markus Vester" To: References: <8bf118410903270647t5ebb0cedi82b96e2ea73075bd@mail.gmail.com> <20090327162720.6et0xg2farr40g0c@webmail4.kuleuven.be> Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 08:40:39 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Miles per Watt? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0003_01C9AF80.DFA1D710" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.4 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C9AF80.DFA1D710 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Gentlemen, sorry, but in my humble opinion a figure like "miles per watt" just doesn't=20= make any sense. Fieldstrength goes with the square root of power, but decays at least propor= tional to inverse distance. Anyone could claim 1000 lightyears (1E16 km !) p= er watt, simply by feeding -165 dBm into a pair of 144 MHz dipoles spaced by= 0.3 m and a QRSS3 receiver. A more appropiate figure would be km/sqrt(watt). Best regards, Markus (DF6NM) ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Rik Strobbe=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 3:27 PM Subject: Re: LF: Lazy Man's CW made it to Venus and back Dave, If I got it right their ran 5kW into a 20m dish at 2.4GHz. The dish gain should be about 50dBd. 50dB =3D 100000 times power gain, thus ERP =3D +/- 500MW The distance to Venus (today) is 0.281 AU =3D 42 milion km =3D 26.1 milion= miles Total distance is 82 milion km / 52.2 milion miles, what makes it +/- 0.1=20= miles per Watt. That value is not spectacular at all, but take into account that Venus is=20= a pretty bad reflector and the signal has to go twice trough the atmoshpere=20= and ionospere. 73, Rik ON7YD Quoting Dave Pick : > How many miles per Watt is that?!! > > Dave 'YXM ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C9AF80.DFA1D710 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Gentlemen,
 
sorry, but in my humble opinion a figure&nb= sp;like=20 "miles per watt" just doesn't make any sense.
 
Fieldstrength goes with the square roo= t of=20 power, but decays at least proportional to inverse distance.=20 Anyone could claim 1000 lightyears (= 1E16 km=20 !) per watt, simply by feeding -165 dBm into a pair of 144 MHz=20 dipoles spaced by 0.3 m and a QRSS3 receiver.
 
A more appropiate figure would be=20 km/sqrt(watt).
 
Best regards,
Markus (DF6NM)
 
----- Original Message -----
Rik Strobbe
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 3:27=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Lazy Man's CW made= it to=20 Venus and back

Dave,

If I got it= right=20 their ran 5kW into a 20m dish at 2.4GHz.
The dish gain should be about=20 50dBd.
50dB =3D 100000 times power gain, thus ERP =3D +/- 500MW
The=20= distance=20 to Venus (today) is 0.281 AU =3D 42 milion km =3D 26.1 milion miles
Tot= al=20 distance is 82 milion km / 52.2 milion miles, what makes it +/- 0.1 m= iles=20 per Watt.
That value is not spectacular at all, but take into account t= hat=20 Venus is a pretty bad reflector and the signal has to go twice trough= =20 the atmoshpere and ionospere.

73, Rik  ON7YD

Quoti= ng=20 Dave Pick <daveyxm@google= mail.com>:

>=20 How many miles per Watt is that?!!
>
> Dave=20 'YXM
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Warren Andre Kesteloot N1CK (?) might be be a good start. I think Andre moved one to the AMRAD Part 5 frequency. I have aa feeling that there is a web site with information on too ....may a PA0 cal ?? Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Warren Ziegler" To: "rsgb_lf_group" Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 4:51 PM Subject: LF: Ropex Info? > Hello the list, > > I have just acquired a Ropex "The First" transmitter for 136kHz - > but without documentation of any kind. > I know that Ropex did not supply anything more than a single sheet of > instructions but I'm lacking even that. > Questions: > 1) Anyone have a copy of the instruction sheet that they could copy or scan? > 2) Any info on mods (injecting an external vfo for example)? > 3) Anybody do any 'reverse engineering' of the circuit? > > Any info at all is much appreciated! > > -- > 73 Warren K2ORS > WD2XGJ > WD2XSH/23 > WE2XEB/2 > WE2XGR/1 > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db07.mx.aol.com (rly-db07.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.82]) by air-db02.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB022-ada49c4a51c3cc; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 04:28:20 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db07.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB078-ada49c4a51c3cc; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 04:28:15 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LkwYR-0000P3-Sv for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 08:27:43 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LkwYR-0000Ou-Bf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 08:27:43 +0000 Received: from smtp2-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.2]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LkwYM-0008OD-UH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 08:27:43 +0000 Received: from smtp2-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp2-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45DB64B011B for ; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 09:27:05 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp2-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3054B4B014E for ; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 09:27:03 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <49C4A4D6.4080705@online.fr> Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 09:27:02 +0100 From: =?windows-1252?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <49C412DA.50906@online.fr> In-Reply-To: <49C412DA.50906@online.fr> X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: AFJ 's Grabber closed ! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello LF , The grabber will be closed for a few times, two reasons with that : 1/ by carrying out my tests of TXing I =93killed=94 my preamplifier of the=20 K9AY , 2/ I leave in the south for two weeks , I will see all that on my return ! 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg09.mx.aol.com (rly-mg09.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.115]) by air-mg08.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMG083-a3649c0065211c; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 16:22:10 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg09.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG098-a3649c0065211c; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 16:21:39 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ljfmu-0006Zq-VJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 20:21:24 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ljfmu-0006Zh-5I for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 20:21:24 +0000 Received: from mail-bw0-f171.google.com ([209.85.218.171]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ljfmq-0004vF-SY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 20:21:24 +0000 Received: by bwz19 with SMTP id 19so264327bwz.4 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 13:21:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :x-goomoji-body:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=eSLGzKu6I7Nm79D4KNCT9c2Aa/ilcyvC5OV/u5SUY7o=; b=TWP0ZFmZGwEsssb/azXksea9Avj+5GLhcn6kzzO280EeEoc8k1FAZTTmZ6re9s/IRQ n7u5VX2Ks3BjtnP0oXpImrLca/g/nOhdeUYGOQapc/sx2HDFsLkUWQzMUhED3k/PvWwB jYz0UvJ1FY6BO89L1ZX3tfwVvJbuKXBIW+HEs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:x-goomoji-body:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=BkDFZOeQyBkq1p5YtO385/UMEi8iOwqIrGYCcfteHQJO+kHjis4aBJUTPFmIM3SQFv qwZ7xRoOfcYbjAnx2j1cxgOgKIO8ju9TRx7r5EIetvUpdbllDnyOpxAGmqh8L2QTTu1P +r52qcO9RQZkLWf0jqwdS69+bI+jFkCv2TXsQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.115.135 with SMTP id i7mr117575bkq.178.1237321274785; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 13:21:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <005501c9a73b$dd0b8ac0$6401a8c0@asus> References: <005501c9a73b$dd0b8ac0$6401a8c0@asus> X-Goomoji-Body: true Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 20:21:14 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: RE: Who's playing on 503.7 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary=0016e6d646880e7fd00465564fb9 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d233.1 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --0016e6d646880e7fd00465564fb9 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d646880e7fcc0465564fb8 --0016e6d646880e7fcc0465564fb8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I filled in a couple at 1800, deliberately, by flicking the test switch on my beacon Tx. But there are too many peaks on the green annd blue traces to not suspect someone else is firing up a Tx. Its not a case of false decodes - there's not such thing as a 'decode' with this monitoring S/W. All it does is to measure the signal power over precisely this time slot, using a synchronised FFT with a bin size of 0.2Hz, which after windowing gives about 0.4Hz noise bandwidth. So any QRM would have to be quite strong to make a significant impact, and persist over 5 seconds. Short spikes get averaged out to not-a-lot. Did the messages about the modified beacon timing software get though this reflector - don't appear to see them in the in box? If not, http://www.g4jnt.com/beacons.htm at the bottom look for PCBCN Directly, http://www.g4jnt.com/PCBCN.zip Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/3/17 Gary - G4WGT > *Hi Andy, LF,* > > * * > > *I have not detected anything here other than your Tx.* > > * * > > *I was going to e-mail anyway because I have some false decodes on the 5 & > 6 minute slots, see list below. These coincide with high bursts of noise > which I experience here from time to time. Is there an issue with the deco= de > software being =93foxed=94 by high noise level?* > > * * > > *Gary =96 G4WGT.* > > * * > > *15:45 40.35 25.76 -240.0 0.0* > > *15:46 41.05 25.76 -240.0 1499.5* > > *15:47 39.52 25.76 -240.0 0.0* > > *16:00 41.70 25.75 -240.0 1499.5* > > *16:01 41.62 25.75 -240.0 1510.6* > > *16:02 31.49 25.75 -240.0 0.0* > > *16:15 40.10 25.47 -240.0 0.0* > > *16:16 30.16 25.47 -240.0 0.0* > > *16:17 29.17 25.47 -240.0 0.0* > > *16:30 37.85 28.93 -240.0 0.0* > > *16:31 41.80 28.93 -240.0 0.0* > > *16:32 36.23 28.93 -240.0 0.0* > > *16:45 40.98 25.80 -240.0 1499.6* > > *16:46 29.45 25.80 -240.0 0.0* > > *16:47 30.17 25.80 -240.0 0.0* > > *17:00 35.23 25.58 -240.0 0.0* > > *17:01 28.35 25.58 -240.0 0.0* > > *17:02 35.28 25.58 -240.0 0.0* > > *17:15 45.32 25.10 -240.0 1499.4* > > *17:16 30.14 25.10 -240.0 0.0* > > *17:17 27.57 25.10 -240.0 0.0* > > *17:30 51.09 25.30 -240.0 1499.5* > > *17:31 53.16 25.30 -240.0 1499.6* > > *17:32 30.18 25.30 -240.0 0.0* > > *17:45 47.93 25.21 -240.0 1499.5* > > *17:46 48.63 25.21 -240.0 1499.5* > > *17:47 49.12 25.21 -240.0 1499.5* > > *18:00 38.75 34.29 -240.0 0.0* > > *18:01 32.01 34.29 -240.0 0.0* > > *18:02 28.89 34.29 -240.0 0.0* > > *18:15 51.36 26.01 -240.0 1499.6* > > *18:16 38.85 26.01 -240.0 0.0* > > *18:17 40.74 26.01 -240.0 0.0* > > *18:30 43.06 24.96 -240.0 1499.5* > > *18:31 29.24 24.96 -240.0 0.0* > > *18:32 29.61 24.96 -240.0 0.0* > > *18:45 36.98 26.26 -240.0 0.0* > > *18:46 34.87 26.26 -240.0 0.0* > > *18:47 36.14 26.26 -240.0 0.0* > > *19:00 50.09 26.57 -240.0 1499.7* > > *19:01 42.04 26.57 -240.0 1518.0* > > *19:02 28.58 26.57 -240.0 0.0* > > * * > > * * > > * * > ------------------------------ > > *From:* owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto: > owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] *On Behalf Of *Andy Talbot > *Sent:* 17 March 2009 19:48 > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > *Subject:* LF: Who's playing on 503.7 > > > > OK, Who is it? [?] > > We can see you > > There's activity in the 5 and 6 minutes slots. > > > > > > > Andy G4JNT > www.g4jnt.com > --0016e6d646880e7fcc0465564fb8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I filled in a couple at 1800, deliberately, by flicking the test switch= on my beacon Tx.=A0=A0=A0But there are too many peaks on the green annd blu= e traces=A0to not suspect someone else is firing up a Tx.
=A0
Its not a case of false decodes - there's not such thing as a '= decode' with this monitoring S/W.=A0=A0 All it does is to measure=A0the=20= signal power over precisely =A0this time slot, using=A0a synchronised FFT wi= th a=A0bin size of 0.2Hz,=A0which after windowing gives=A0about 0.4Hz noise=20= bandwidth.=A0 So any QRM would have to be quite strong to make a significant= impact, and persist over 5 seconds.=A0=A0 Short spikes get=A0 averaged out=20= to not-a-lot.
=A0
Did the messages about the modified beacon timing software get though t= his reflector - don't appear to see them in the in box?
=A0
If not,=A0 http://www.g4jn= t.com/beacons.htm=A0at the bottom look for PCBCN
=A0

Andy =A0G4JNT
www= .g4jnt.com


2009/3/17 Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>

Hi Andy, LF,

=A0

I have not dete= cted anything here other than your Tx.

=A0

I was going to=20= e-mail anyway because I have some false decodes on the 5 & 6 minute slot= s, see list below. These coincide with high bursts of noise which I experien= ce here from time to time. Is there an issue with the decode software being=20= =93foxed=94 by high noise level?

=A0

Gary =96 G4WGT.=

=A0

15:45=A0 40.35= =A0 25.76=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

15:46=A0 41.05= =A0 25.76=A0 -240.0=A0 1499.5

15:47=A0 39.52= =A0 25.76=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

16:00=A0 41.70= =A0 25.75=A0 -240.0=A0 1499.5

16:01=A0 41.62= =A0 25.75=A0 -240.0=A0 1510.6

16:02=A0 31.49= =A0 25.75=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

16:15=A0 40.10= =A0 25.47=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

16:16=A0 30.16= =A0 25.47=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

16:17=A0 29.17= =A0 25.47=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

16:30=A0 37.85= =A0 28.93=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

16:31=A0 41.80= =A0 28.93=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

16:32=A0 36.23= =A0 28.93=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

16:45=A0 40.98= =A0 25.80=A0 -240.0=A0 1499.6

16:46=A0 29.45= =A0 25.80=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

16:47=A0 30.17= =A0 25.80=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

17:00=A0 35.23= =A0 25.58=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

17:01=A0 28.35= =A0 25.58=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

17:02=A0 35.28= =A0 25.58=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

17:15=A0 45.32= =A0 25.10=A0 -240.0=A0 1499.4

17:16=A0 30.14= =A0 25.10=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

17:17=A0 27.57= =A0 25.10=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

17:30=A0 51.09= =A0 25.30=A0 -240.0=A0 1499.5

17:31=A0 53.16= =A0 25.30=A0 -240.0=A0 1499.6

17:32=A0 30.18= =A0 25.30=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

17:45=A0 47.93= =A0 25.21=A0 -240.0=A0 1499.5

17:46=A0 48.63= =A0 25.21=A0 -240.0=A0 1499.5

17:47=A0 49.12= =A0 25.21=A0 -240.0=A0 1499.5

18:00=A0 38.75= =A0 34.29=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

18:01=A0 32.01= =A0 34.29=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

18:02=A0 28.89= =A0 34.29=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

18:15=A0 51.36= =A0 26.01=A0 -240.0=A0 1499.6

18:16=A0 38.85= =A0 26.01=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

18:17=A0 40.74= =A0 26.01=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

18:30=A0 43.06= =A0 24.96=A0 -240.0=A0 1499.5

18:31=A0 29.24= =A0 24.96=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

18:32=A0 29.61= =A0 24.96=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

18:45=A0 36.98= =A0 26.26=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

18:46=A0 34.87= =A0 26.26=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

18:47=A0 36.14= =A0 26.26=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

19:00=A0 50.09= =A0 26.57=A0 -240.0=A0 1499.7

19:01=A0 42.04= =A0 26.57=A0 -240.0=A0 1518.0

19:02=A0 28.58= =A0 26.57=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

=A0

=A0

=A0

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_= lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf=20= Of Andy Talbot
Sent: 17 March 2009 19:48To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<= br> Subject: LF: Who's playi= ng on 503.7

=A0

OK, Who is it?

We can see you

There's activity in the=A05 and 6 minutes slots.

=A0

=A0


Andy =A0G4JNT
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--0016e6d646880e7fcc0465564fb8-- --0016e6d646880e7fd00465564fb9 Content-Type: image/gif; name="360.gif" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 X-Attachment-Id: 360@goomoji.gmail Content-ID: <360@goomoji.gmail> R0lGODlhDAAPAKIFAJh3AP/zxAAAANyuAP/gaP///wAAAAAAACH/C05FVFNDQVBFMi4wAwEA AAAh+QQJAAAFACwAAAAADAAPAAADLVi63P6wjEmrDDjrGYj/H0cIIElwpJmeQweC4hu2BGDf nnjjrLvPLtlJUikWEgAh+QQJAAAFACwAAAAADAAPAAADLVi63M4jyllGuDjHQLr3GyF8I7GN JWpaXxu2IAvMdBfS9coReLzDpspk+HAkAAAh+QQJCgAFACwAAAAADAAPAAADLVi6vPMwlhGq vS+QzXkmQhcSWTiaJNWt3+qpQCxvnzynGmG/uUtOkWBjSCQmAAAh+QQJFAAFACwAAAAADAAP AAADLViz3BowyhWIvZcSgTmhnBd+Q4Vh2pmVBOC+lvbCpDmvpvopTV/8wKBwSCwWEgAh+QQJ CgAFACwAAAAADAAPAAADLVi6vPMwlhGqvS+QzXkmQhcSWTiaJNWt3+qpQCxvnzynGmG/uUtO kWBjSCQmAAAh+QQFAAAFACwAAAAADAAPAAADLVi63M4jyllGuDjHQLr3GyF8I7GNJWpaXxu2 IAvMdBfS9coReLzDpspk+HAkAAA7 --0016e6d646880e7fd00465564fb9-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me09.mx.aol.com (rly-me09.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.43]) by air-me02.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINME022-9dc49c16660119; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 17:23:49 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me09.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME098-9dc49c16660119; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 17:23:46 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lk3Ek-0003nO-J2 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:23:42 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lk3Ek-0003nF-8H for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:23:42 +0000 Received: from smtp2-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.2]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lk3Ei-0001WG-BS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:23:42 +0000 Received: from smtp2-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp2-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id C24224B0113 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 22:23:37 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp2-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id A212B4B0072 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 22:23:34 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <49C16656.3080501@online.fr> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 22:23:34 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <34B7292B959A41D6B088E9F984F39E73@ns94d01ae4d850> In-Reply-To: <34B7292B959A41D6B088E9F984F39E73@ns94d01ae4d850> X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: TEST AFJ 18-03.jpg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Henny , Thank you , good capture ! 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj henny van elst a =E9crit : > Hi Jean-piere,lf > nice capture > Henny pa3cpm. > Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzond= en: > test afj 18-03.jpg > > Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen=20= het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controlee= r de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen w= orden afgehandeld. > > =20 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf01.mx.aol.com (rly-mf01.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.171]) by air-mf04.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMF043-93c49abd447ea; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 07:43:04 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf01.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF012-93c49abd447ea; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 07:42:49 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Le7TG-0001oD-CO for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 12:42:10 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Le7TF-0001o4-Uo for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 12:42:09 +0000 Received: from imo-d21.mx.aol.com ([205.188.144.207]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Le7TD-0005WG-JT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 12:42:09 +0000 Received: from F4DTL@aol.com by imo-d21.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id l.c5b.3e96cc4a (14502) for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 07:41:59 -0500 (EST) From: F4DTL@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 07:41:59 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5029 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 1.7 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: LF: WE2XGR/3 W1TAG WSPR Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1235997719" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.4 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_MESSAGE,LINES_OF_YELLING,NO_REAL_NAME,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 -------------------------------1235997719 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP RX : Icom IC7400 Ant: Wellbrook LFL 1010 _http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/_ (http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/) 090302 0152 7 -24 0.8 0.508020 WE2XGR FN31 57 090302 0154 11 -20 0.8 0.508020 WE2XGR FN31 57 090302 0156 14 -18 0.8 0.508020 WE2XGR FN31 57 090302 0156 4 -28 1.4 0.508050 W1TAG FN42 53 090302 0158 16 -16 0.8 0.508020 WE2XGR FN31 57 090302 0158 6 -26 1.4 0.508050 W1TAG FN42 53 090302 0200 14 -18 0.7 0.508020 WE2XGR FN31 57 090302 0200 11 -22 1.4 0.508050 W1TAG FN42 53 090302 0202 16 -16 0.8 0.508020 WE2XGR FN31 57 090302 0202 4 -27 1.4 0.508050 W1TAG FN42 53 090302 0204 15 -16 0.9 0.508020 WE2XGR FN31 57 090302 0204 5 -27 1.5 0.508050 W1TAG FN42 53 090302 0206 16 -17 0.8 0.508020 WE2XGR FN31 57 090302 0206 9 -23 1.3 0.508050 W1TAG FN42 53 090302 0208 13 -18 0.9 0.508020 WE2XGR FN31 57 090302 0208 7 -26 1.4 0.508050 W1TAG FN42 53 090302 0210 10 -22 0.8 0.508020 WE2XGR FN31 57 090302 0210 8 -24 1.5 0.508050 W1TAG FN42 53 090302 0212 11 -21 0.8 0.508020 WE2XGR FN31 57 090302 0212 6 -26 1.4 0.508050 W1TAG FN42 53 090302 0214 9 -23 0.9 0.508020 WE2XGR FN31 57 090302 0216 6 -26 0.7 0.508020 WE2XGR FN31 57 090302 0216 6 -25 1.3 0.508050 W1TAG FN42 53 090302 0218 10 -22 0.8 0.508020 WE2XGR FN31 57 090302 0218 4 -28 1.3 0.508050 W1TAG FN42 53 -------------------------------1235997719 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
F4DTL=20 Nicolas JN18FP
RX : Icom IC7400
Ant: Wellbrook LFL 1010
http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/=
 
 
090302 0152   7 -24  0.8 &nbs= p;=20 0.508020  WE2XGR FN31=20 57         
090302 0154&nbs= p;=20 11 -20  0.8   0.508020  WE2XGR FN31=20 57         
090302 0156&nbs= p;=20 14 -18  0.8   0.508020  WE2XGR FN31=20 57         
090302=20 0156   4 -28  1.4   0.508050  W1TAG FN42=20 53          
090302=20 0158  16 -16  0.8   0.508020  WE2XGR FN31=20 57         
090302=20 0158   6 -26  1.4   0.508050  W1TAG FN42=20 53          
090302=20 0200  14 -18  0.7   0.508020  WE2XGR FN31=20 57         
090302 0200&nbs= p;=20 11 -22  1.4   0.508050  W1TAG FN42=20 53          
090302=20 0202  16 -16  0.8   0.508020  WE2XGR FN31=20 57         
090302=20 0202   4 -27  1.4   0.508050  W1TAG FN42=20 53          
090302=20 0204  15 -16  0.9   0.508020  WE2XGR FN31=20 57         
090302=20 0204   5 -27  1.5   0.508050  W1TAG FN42=20 53          
090302=20 0206  16 -17  0.8   0.508020  WE2XGR FN31=20 57         
090302=20 0206   9 -23  1.3   0.508050  W1TAG FN42=20 53          
090302=20 0208  13 -18  0.9   0.508020  WE2XGR FN31=20 57         
090302=20 0208   7 -26  1.4   0.508050  W1TAG FN42=20 53          
090302=20 0210  10 -22  0.8   0.508020  WE2XGR FN31=20 57         
090302=20 0210   8 -24  1.5   0.508050  W1TAG FN42=20 53          
090302=20 0212  11 -21  0.8   0.508020  WE2XGR FN31=20 57         
090302=20 0212   6 -26  1.4   0.508050  W1TAG FN42=20 53          
090302=20 0214   9 -23  0.9   0.508020  WE2XGR FN31=20 57         
090302=20 0216   6 -26  0.7   0.508020  WE2XGR FN31=20 57         
090302=20 0216   6 -25  1.3   0.508050  W1TAG FN42=20 53          
090302=20 0218  10 -22  0.8   0.508020  WE2XGR FN31=20 57         
090302=20 0218   4 -28  1.3   0.508050  W1TAG FN42=20 53          
 
 -------------------------------1235997719-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma03.mx.aol.com (rly-ma03.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.47]) by air-ma05.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMA054-89749ada95913a; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 17:04:18 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma03.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA031-89749ada95913a; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 17:04:11 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LeciH-0004O7-MT for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 22:03:45 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LeciH-0004Ny-A3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 22:03:45 +0000 Received: from mailout10.t-online.de ([194.25.134.21]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LeciF-0007y6-6q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 22:03:45 +0000 Received: from fwd06.aul.t-online.de by mailout10.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 1LeciC-0003cK-03; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 23:03:40 +0100 Received: from e7010 (E6++C8ZXQhkJ4srGnsrDN86soi1lINE95mCUDgeoLqHlBW8oL8zTpndXJEcY2Zbg08@[84.147.223.170]) by fwd06.aul.t-online.de with smtp id 1LeciB-1WsQE40; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 23:03:39 +0100 Message-ID: <000a01c99c4b$eaa79020$1402a8c0@e7010> From: "Walter und Marianne Staubach" To: Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 23:03:39 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4927.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 X-ID: E6++C8ZXQhkJ4srGnsrDN86soi1lINE95mCUDgeoLqHlBW8oL8zTpndXJEcY2Zbg08 X-TOI-MSGID: e6822243-faff-4482-9155-199c696c9733 X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: SM6BHZ WSPR Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C99C54.4A679CA0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE, SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C99C54.4A679CA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Strong signal most of the time here in JN59NO, up to SNR 0 73 Walter DI2AG ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C99C54.4A679CA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Strong signal most of the time here in JN59= NO, up=20 to SNR 0
73   Walter=20 DI2AG
------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C99C54.4A679CA0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da10.mx.aol.com (rly-da10.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.84]) by air-da09.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDA093-a9449bff8a836b; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 15:23:39 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da10.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA104-a9449bff8a836b; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 15:23:21 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LjesL-0005s3-IS for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 19:22:57 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LjesL-0005ru-6r for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 19:22:57 +0000 Received: from qw-out-1920.google.com ([74.125.92.146]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LjesJ-00026w-49 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 19:22:57 +0000 Received: by qw-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 5so143752qwc.16 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 12:22:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=LMXCyZN/XiHPre62T0j53mNIlSv4X4pTHroZ43/0WQ8=; b=QB9eNLQjpM4h0gzP6WGlPkIhQtmctAM8pAsmviP5/p371SZ6UdNjllpN46ULKb13cH oLDJ+AVQ5MmIFZHd88PdwjtudBGRYFIP9k8QACeYNxbUqoj5WMbx1wGtNqK/26+v5E/k sFkP0gIvzrsA8+v2jYgq8WRopDUnUp4j6oIvg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=waJH8w953CkmVr/rdUukR640UmAQKvSoC/qWm7ydTsQ/tm2W25aJeyrEglcTft2tCl fMcGR7bR84PUGxbCKWiWMpTI0IS3m428bidzRQgkD5KTtAj46ubQkl6NC1UlOz0fRlDb x8HIe5nzLOJNrY2V9qDkUftdF8+jpU/fbegJw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.60.207 with SMTP id q15mr676856qah.193.1237317773461; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 12:22:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 14:22:53 -0500 Message-ID: <57a24ca70903171222i5f37f38fk5066943893475a54@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: XGJ and XKO into TI3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m217.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Thanks Laurence, its been a long long time since I've added a new Country on 137! --=20 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 2:16 PM, Laurence BY3A-KL1X China wrote: > http://kl1x.com/ti3.jpg > > 73 > > Laurence > > ________________________________ > Windows Live=99 Contacts: Organize your contact list. Check it out. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md10.mx.aol.com (rly-md10.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.148]) by air-md07.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMD072-92d49bfee809f; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 14:40:04 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md10.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD105-92d49bfee809f; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 14:40:02 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LjeCc-0005Lj-Fw for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 18:39:50 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LjeCc-0005La-38 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 18:39:50 +0000 Received: from qw-out-1920.google.com ([74.125.92.147]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LjeCa-0004Jm-8y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 18:39:50 +0000 Received: by qw-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 5so130002qwc.16 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 11:39:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=sGFjpWKyBrk+cBYqBdj2t5CMZNzx7QhQanM18hhTMLg=; b=Nv10TwEvu0iBYagBM4YNFpazbyX/70pfS8MFSFrFnDHHGco/Es3s49VN+H+OfjdVVP MUbdV34gMlzyTMJLfmGeKJWd9b1G66aOKybK7fahQwxl2DQXki0rwXhPdYu6CY9Sn/rW PZDN0MEElUGa1MaApNoanYzS2QdIwMQ2BJ+Vs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=xaktF7iWSubDWiqJGGLzAaY1JFS1SNwbQIn7oIGNccgDqRwKEcc4bZ1MgC9wMxHgop d3mr4OJ0QSQhn7K1jvA0e0vYUkSCvTgwFgiLsnXmYTooLZTvgI4vBN2lCGzlYXaNbXGV zVFWt8Q6pmMhbrpFGYtXKPDEOxgP5Ljp+dspc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.2.130 with SMTP id 2mr565521qaj.298.1237315186423; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 11:39:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 13:39:46 -0500 Message-ID: <57a24ca70903171139r56a406e1h7339c5de8fd2fbe9@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: One more night Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d272.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Laurence, What did you copy last night? --=20 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 1:32 PM, Laurence BY3A-KL1X China wrote: > > Ill run again on 137.775/781 dot 60 slow from EK80. It is very noisy but > looks like we had some success last night. The grabber appears to run > http://kl1x.com/dx00000.jpg. > > Ill move tomorrow to 500Khz region > > Laurence TI3/KL1X > > ________________________________ > Windows Live=99 Groups: Create an online spot for your favorite groups to > meet. Check it out. --=20 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da02.mx.aol.com (rly-da02.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.76]) by air-da03.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDA032-a5449ae77c912c; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 07:45:21 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da02.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA024-a5449ae77c912c; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 07:44:58 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LeqSt-0004OA-4B for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 12:44:47 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LeqSs-0004O1-K9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 12:44:46 +0000 Received: from psmtp08.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.22]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LeqSr-0004zK-H9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 12:44:46 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp08.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KFZ00JHVFEDFS@psmtp08.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 13:44:38 +0100 (MET) Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 13:44:35 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: XGJ 04-03.jpg Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_5w2IdcN10s+guSMf7yKnQQ)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_5w2IdcN10s+guSMf7yKnQQ) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_vipnq+En+E9Q+YL9uHAxxw)" --Boundary_(ID_vipnq+En+E9Q+YL9uHAxxw) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Hi Warren,Lf capture XGJ Henny cpm 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: XGJ 04-03.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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Hi Warren,Lf
capture XGJ
Henny cpm
73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
XGJ 04-03.jpg

Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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The black trace gives it away. If there is extended QRM that spans the noise measurement period (which is the WHOLE minute before) and the 5s Tx period it will show up on both. The different system of noise measurement explains why the (no QRMed) green and blue traces are not sitting on top of teh black trace. Ideally, with no signal there, they should. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/3/17 Andy Talbot > I filled in a couple at 1800, deliberately, by flicking the test switch on > my beacon Tx. But there are too many peaks on the green annd blue > traces to not suspect someone else is firing up a Tx. > > Its not a case of false decodes - there's not such thing as a 'decode' wit= h > this monitoring S/W. All it does is to measure the signal power over > precisely this time slot, using a synchronised FFT with a bin size of > 0.2Hz, which after windowing gives about 0.4Hz noise bandwidth. So any QR= M > would have to be quite strong to make a significant impact, and persist ov= er > 5 seconds. Short spikes get averaged out to not-a-lot. > > Did the messages about the modified beacon timing software get though this > reflector - don't appear to see them in the in box? > > If not, http://www.g4jnt.com/beacons.htm at the bottom look for PCBCN > Directly, http://www.g4jnt.com/PCBCN.zip > > > Andy G4JNT > www.g4jnt.com > > > 2009/3/17 Gary - G4WGT > > *Hi Andy, LF,* >> >> * * >> >> *I have not detected anything here other than your Tx.* >> >> * * >> >> *I was going to e-mail anyway because I have some false decodes on the 5 >> & 6 minute slots, see list below. These coincide with high bursts of nois= e >> which I experience here from time to time. Is there an issue with the dec= ode >> software being =93foxed=94 by high noise level?* >> >> * * >> >> *Gary =96 G4WGT.* >> >> * * >> >> *15:45 40.35 25.76 -240.0 0.0* >> >> *15:46 41.05 25.76 -240.0 1499.5* >> >> *15:47 39.52 25.76 -240.0 0.0* >> >> *16:00 41.70 25.75 -240.0 1499.5* >> >> *16:01 41.62 25.75 -240.0 1510.6* >> >> *16:02 31.49 25.75 -240.0 0.0* >> >> *16:15 40.10 25.47 -240.0 0.0* >> >> *16:16 30.16 25.47 -240.0 0.0* >> >> *16:17 29.17 25.47 -240.0 0.0* >> >> *16:30 37.85 28.93 -240.0 0.0* >> >> *16:31 41.80 28.93 -240.0 0.0* >> >> *16:32 36.23 28.93 -240.0 0.0* >> >> *16:45 40.98 25.80 -240.0 1499.6* >> >> *16:46 29.45 25.80 -240.0 0.0* >> >> *16:47 30.17 25.80 -240.0 0.0* >> >> *17:00 35.23 25.58 -240.0 0.0* >> >> *17:01 28.35 25.58 -240.0 0.0* >> >> *17:02 35.28 25.58 -240.0 0.0* >> >> *17:15 45.32 25.10 -240.0 1499.4* >> >> *17:16 30.14 25.10 -240.0 0.0* >> >> *17:17 27.57 25.10 -240.0 0.0* >> >> *17:30 51.09 25.30 -240.0 1499.5* >> >> *17:31 53.16 25.30 -240.0 1499.6* >> >> *17:32 30.18 25.30 -240.0 0.0* >> >> *17:45 47.93 25.21 -240.0 1499.5* >> >> *17:46 48.63 25.21 -240.0 1499.5* >> >> *17:47 49.12 25.21 -240.0 1499.5* >> >> *18:00 38.75 34.29 -240.0 0.0* >> >> *18:01 32.01 34.29 -240.0 0.0* >> >> *18:02 28.89 34.29 -240.0 0.0* >> >> *18:15 51.36 26.01 -240.0 1499.6* >> >> *18:16 38.85 26.01 -240.0 0.0* >> >> *18:17 40.74 26.01 -240.0 0.0* >> >> *18:30 43.06 24.96 -240.0 1499.5* >> >> *18:31 29.24 24.96 -240.0 0.0* >> >> *18:32 29.61 24.96 -240.0 0.0* >> >> *18:45 36.98 26.26 -240.0 0.0* >> >> *18:46 34.87 26.26 -240.0 0.0* >> >> *18:47 36.14 26.26 -240.0 0.0* >> >> *19:00 50.09 26.57 -240.0 1499.7* >> >> *19:01 42.04 26.57 -240.0 1518.0* >> >> *19:02 28.58 26.57 -240.0 0.0* >> >> * * >> >> * * >> >> * * >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From:* owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto: >> owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] *On Behalf Of *Andy Talbot >> *Sent:* 17 March 2009 19:48 >> *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> *Subject:* LF: Who's playing on 503.7 >> >> >> >> OK, Who is it? [?] >> >> We can see you >> >> There's activity in the 5 and 6 minutes slots. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Andy G4JNT >> www.g4jnt.com >> > > --001636c5990b5180f2046556831a Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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The black trace gives it away.=A0 If there is extended =A0QRM that span= s=A0 the noise measurement period (which is the WHOLE minute before) and the= 5s Tx period it will show up on both.=A0=A0 The different system of noise m= easurement=A0explains why the (no QRMed) green and blue traces are not sitti= ng on top of teh black trace.=A0=A0 Ideally, with no signal there, they shou= ld.

Andy =A0G4JNT
www= .g4jnt.com


2009/3/17 Andy Talbot <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>
I filled in a couple at 1800, deliberately, by flicking the test switch= on my beacon Tx.=A0=A0=A0But there are too many peaks on the green annd blu= e traces=A0to not suspect someone else is firing up a Tx.
=A0
Its not a case of false decodes - there's not such thing as a '= decode' with this monitoring S/W.=A0=A0 All it does is to measure=A0the=20= signal power over precisely =A0this time slot, using=A0a synchronised FFT wi= th a=A0bin size of 0.2Hz,=A0which after windowing gives=A0about 0.4Hz noise=20= bandwidth.=A0 So any QRM would have to be quite strong to make a significant= impact, and persist over 5 seconds.=A0=A0 Short spikes get=A0 averaged out=20= to not-a-lot.
=A0
Did the messages about the modified beacon timing software get though t= his reflector - don't appear to see them in the in box?
=A0
If not,=A0 http://www.g4jnt.com/beacons.htm=A0at the bottom look for PCBCN
=A0

Andy =A0G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com


2009/3/17 Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk= >=20

Hi Andy, LF,

=A0

I have not dete= cted anything here other than your Tx.

=A0

I was going to=20= e-mail anyway because I have some false decodes on the 5 & 6 minute slot= s, see list below. These coincide with high bursts of noise which I experien= ce here from time to time. Is there an issue with the decode software being=20= =93foxed=94 by high noise level?

=A0

Gary =96 G4WGT.=

=A0

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17:15=A0 45.32= =A0 25.10=A0 -240.0=A0 1499.4

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18:15=A0 51.36= =A0 26.01=A0 -240.0=A0 1499.6

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18:47=A0 36.14= =A0 26.26=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

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19:02=A0 28.58= =A0 26.57=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

=A0

=A0

=A0

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_= lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf=20= Of Andy Talbot
Sent: 17 March 2009 19:48To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<= br> Subject: LF: Who's playi= ng on 503.7

=A0

OK, Who is it?

We can see you

There's activity in the=A05 and 6 minutes slots.

=A0

=A0


Andy =A0G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com



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sr ,
Capture YO and WPF,
Henny cpm
73s
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boundary="-----------------------------1238348010" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 -------------------------------1238348010 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello the list, Im beaconing on 137.718 (dial is 136.220) with a 33 % cycle. Between 1900Z and 2100Z Reports are welcome via the WSPR database Thank you in advance F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP -------------------------------1238348010 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello the list, Im beaconing on 137.718  (di= al=20 is 136.220) with a 33 % cycle.
Between 1900Z and=20 2100Z

Reports are welcome via the WSPR database
Thank yo= u in=20 advance

F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP
 -------------------------------1238348010-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh01.mx.aol.com (rly-mh01.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.137]) by air-mh01.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMH013-bb849aad3bc2bb; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 13:28:24 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh01.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH018-bb849aad3bc2bb; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 13:28:14 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LdqO3-0006Y5-Vq for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 18:27:39 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LdqO3-0006Xw-H3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 18:27:39 +0000 Received: from ttsmtp-2.cpwnetworks.com ([62.24.128.243] helo=ttsmtp.cpwnetworks.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LdqO2-0004K8-27 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 18:27:39 +0000 X-Path: TalkTalk-smtp X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AlIGAMthqklOko+S/2dsb2JhbACCMCyBZIcVBslJhBoG Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.146.143.146]) by ttsmtp.cpwnetworks.com with SMTP; 01 Mar 2009 18:27:31 +0000 Message-ID: <00c101c99a9b$6210b400$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <000a01c99a91$a54a1180$1402a8c0@e7010> Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 18:27:30 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: WSPR on 600m Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00BE_01C99A9B.61D531A0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_00BE_01C99A9B.61D531A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Walter decode now 182200 13 -9 0.4 -138 0 DI2AG JN59 30 MAL/G3KEV =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Walter und Marianne Staubach=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 5:17 PM Subject: LF: WSPR on 600m Dear All on MF, DI2AG will transmit WSPR tonight. Beginning 18UTC, ending 7UTC.=20 Dial frequency 503.6KHz, beacon on 505.090KHz. Power 1W ERP. Reports welco= me. Please report on WSPRnet.org or this reflector. 73 Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.4/1976 - Release Date: 02/27/09=20= 13:27:00 ------=_NextPart_000_00BE_01C99A9B.61D531A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Walter
decode now
182200 13  -9   0.4  -1= 38 =20  0   DI2AG JN59 30
MAL/G3KEV
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 5:17=20 PM
Subject: LF: WSPR on 600m

Dear All on MF,
       = ; DI2AG=20 will transmit WSPR tonight. Beginning 18UTC, ending 7UTC.
Dial frequency 503.6KHz, beacon on 505.09= 0KHz.=20 Power 1W ERP. Reports welcome. Please report on WSPRnet.org or this=20 reflector.
 
73  Walter  DI2AG / DJ2LF
 
 
 


No virus found in this incoming message.
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------=_NextPart_000_00BE_01C99A9B.61D531A0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf08.mx.aol.com (rly-mf08.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.178]) by air-mf06.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMF064-97a49cf3601256; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 04:49:23 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf08.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF088-97a49cf3601256; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 04:49:07 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lnqgn-0008Vh-6r for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 09:48:21 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lnqgm-0008VY-S2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 09:48:20 +0100 Received: from dx.ru ([80.68.4.13]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lnqgj-0004Jh-SX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 09:48:20 +0100 Received: from [85.26.183.18] (helo=UR5IBG) by dx.ru with esmtpa auth=ed@dx.ru id 1LnqfO-000CQA-W6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 12:46:56 +0400 Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 12:46:22 +0400 From: Ed RU6LA X-Mailer: The Bat! (v4.0.7) Professional Organization: Ed Lesnichy X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1655675752.20090329124622@dx.ru> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 1.3 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.332 Subject: LF: OE5ODL Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------97153F4345C2C1A" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------------97153F4345C2C1A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear LF enthusiasts! I have new one for me on 137 - OE First Ausria - Russia 2way QSO on 137 TNX Oswald! Daytime propagation is very good now low level QRN-QRM 73! 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(post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma02.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA023-89149cfefa9145; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 18:01:15 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lo33D-0006Er-66 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 23:00:19 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lo33C-0006Ei-ML for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 23:00:18 +0100 Received: from mail-bw0-f219.google.com ([209.85.218.219]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lo339-0000LN-V1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 23:00:18 +0100 Received: by bwz19 with SMTP id 19so1969190bwz.4 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 15:00:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=JbDarkRlp9HdNpKbt1zZRudIdXifvGZHTV/xaf5N/IA=; b=FL+IKrTysaOrB1E54K4cqVMIwCJoeEbHJnJgygExO5AACCX6/aJyJnIzEAqpvgjOBd udSn58V19SkkY+h02EyKc00QEGAe3iyQX4nQD48Dm4+PUuxfyc/dxXO8+Udi9clErunN giBhWZQh867SFeC7M3Ed2osLV3EeJFveYfMMY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=D9BtMT/GCCjOWSvM1Uc8wsiBBhV/LK5/xtV79IXZQ6VXJcjslRTgwSo2lXxXFMo+1d d6jdwtpnCIzEHV/x1++yn2IvflhNSYWCT5DJ5keR8u2wbf6tabjyPDKWuY0LJ/dfjWNb RHEXYIZkisEha7QR7MxixWkV5vDU/8amBDa7c= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.117.1 with SMTP id o1mr3376501faq.96.1238364008813; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 15:00:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <006b01c9b080$7127b560$0900a8c0@AM> References: <006b01c9b080$7127b560$0900a8c0@AM> Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 23:00:08 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: a6a4455079d8f060 Message-ID: From: John Gould To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Fw: EI--- 500khz permit applications Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5b680d91573046649162a X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d256.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : fail X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --001636c5b680d91573046649162a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit That's excellent news, Michael. We were discussing the matter with IRTS in the margins of the Region 1 conference last year, so it's good to see some movement with COMREG. Drop me a direct e-mail (g3wkl@btinternet.com) and I'll look into why your account isn't working on the reflector 73 John, G3WKL --001636c5b680d91573046649162a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That's excellent news, Michael.=A0 We were discussing the matter with IR= TS in the margins of the Region 1 conference last year, so it's good to=20= see some movement with COMREG.

Drop me a direct e-mail (g3wkl@btinternet.com) and I'll look into=20= why your account isn't working on the reflector

73 John, G3WKL
--001636c5b680d91573046649162a-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df09.mx.aol.com (rly-df09.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.22]) by air-df04.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDF041-57549aff7ee46; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 11:04:26 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df09.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF092-57549aff7ee46; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 11:04:00 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LfG1R-0005t1-Il for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 16:02:09 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LfG1R-0005ss-4G for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 16:02:09 +0000 Received: from mail-fx0-f174.google.com ([209.85.220.174]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LfG1N-0004z5-Ck for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 16:02:09 +0000 Received: by fxm22 with SMTP id 22so3972728fxm.4 for ; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 08:01:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=2CV2uQt8wPBLUnVsWDt/LM1qKmrca2Tgn6zUANkEEZ4=; b=YDsOxvMgpzwM0tV5TrwTO3332iERhX/+LycQHV+MPLknxKjAE9eM4daEyIX04uTpI+ KSdis2XLtLKklPt5N/dF4x80xZfeiqHd99vMN27CwAEKnuH2msK1NxuRIgsrngBYsP13 JZVlskTrHVXRIz/Rl7NLpTtay3jNlK+aUXGos= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=YW6CA73g+cKc1JbiBMIZgfOSKEiytsat19KDCgftEMilWe7yv0rdJLzEJRSBpC64SZ YOZQBagj53VEWBy+9CwQD4l9hQ5ThkUCGIy5KsBHUCHnnwTLjOLbj5NvRnfnW7jarLUs pUHIzrvFd5kwLWmR4KXOtt7OauTSmpT1VEaWU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.105.75 with SMTP id s11mr1110130fao.4.1236268912277; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 08:01:52 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.1.20090305091934.0181aca8@magma.ca> References: <000a01c99a91$a54a1180$1402a8c0@e7010> <7.0.1.0.1.20090305091934.0181aca8@magma.ca> Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 16:01:52 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Deep copy... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d277.1 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) The effect of AGC is even worse than amplitude modulation, it can add a non linear element to the signal processing. The amplitude of the receiver output is proportional to the input power multiplied by a factor (an attenuation) that depends on the near-enough instananeous signal level. So Pout =3D G * Pin * K.* Pin where G is Rx gain with no AGC, and K is the AGC function, which we''ll assume for now is linear (it isn't but...) So, for this very simplistic Rx, Pout =3D Pin^2 {G.K}. Since K won't be simple and linear in practice, even higher power terms in Pin will appear, including teh odd order ones that give rise to close in intermod products. So, for signals that are modulated, and / or vary at a rate slower than the AGC action, we will see intermodulation products, harmonics and propably other cross-modulation effects as well. I have seen very pronounced AGC induced intermod products when doing dopplergram plots of HF signals. Where two very-nearly-identical signals were present via multiple propagation paths, sidebands could clearly be seen either side of the pair due to AGC action in the receiver following the fading that was the apparant effect of the two signals combining. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/3/5 Bill de Carle : > At 09:25 PM 3/4/2009, you wrote: > > I seem to get best results while trying to pull signals out of the noise > when the AGC of the receiver is OFF as well as the Noise Blanker and Noise > reduction features being OFF... > > Do you concur?? > > Also setting a good audio filter to the passband of interest seems to bypa= ss > some heavy static hits as well... > > I've noticed that when doing HF frequency measurement tests (working to th= e > nearest milliHertz) - turning off the AGC under high static conditions see= ms > to improve the accuracy of the measurement, at least with the software I > use.=A0 One plausible explanation is that AGC action necessarily introduce= s > amplitude modulation (on all signals in the passband).=A0 When I process t= he > AGC'd signal with what amounts to a very narrow DSP filter the added > amplitude modulation shows up as apparent sidebands close-in on the signal > I'm trying to measure.=A0 If the power in those sidebands is comparable to > that of the signal whose frequency I'm looking for, the FFT algorithm (whi= ch > assumes the real signal has the largest amplitude) gets confused and comes > up with an estimated frequency somewhere between the correct value and tha= t > of a nearby sideband.=A0 The effect is small however because the AGC pumpi= ng > action doesn't occur very fast so the added sidebands are seen to be only > some milliHertz away from the signal.=A0 The sidebands occur on both sides= of > the "real" signal, so one might expect them to cancel out but in practice > they don't because the amount of error depends on where the "real" signal > falls with respect to the fixed frequency bins of the FFT.=A0 It should be > possible to model the AGC action of a particular receiver and compensate f= or > it in the software.=A0 No doubt the phenomenon becomes less significant wi= th > smaller FFT's or shorter integration times.=A0 Changing the AGC setting > between SLOW-FAST-OFF might help under some conditions.=A0 With QRSS-60 > signaling rates it can take a long time to find out which setting is > optimum, especially when band conditions are changing or the QSB period is > close to a bit time, hi! > > VE2IQ > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me03.mx.aol.com (rly-me03.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.36]) by air-me01.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINME014-9a949c0edab375; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 08:49:03 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me03.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME035-9a949c0edab375; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 08:48:46 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LjvBj-0006Jv-Co for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 12:48:03 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LjvBj-0006Jm-18 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 12:48:03 +0000 Received: from mail-qy0-f107.google.com ([209.85.221.107]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LjvBg-0006i5-9i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 12:48:02 +0000 Received: by qyk5 with SMTP id 5so10421qyk.30 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 05:47:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=FvKwVTORMxk+OsZaG2PitmRgSe/CcjwoM8TAITetBqI=; b=mFM/iVgO98i9SBJvdMohjsiAdFtjpVv7v+Qkyb5J/jh2N+DkYSVwHuyNnd++bWgV6B AlTWl0KHajalMxM0LwBLo4yx7cbVbb9eyLIp+RC6IXQY3EPgdRJFX8JRF+kn8yhzKLAv 5Di45eH6sG6f70knZaOfZ119f9VBQR1JUVJNU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=n2cqCyc1YfnvXXRfVC8DeBFr8iciE+GBDYOT9WOV3CuAHZSKTnbhZm9tc7NKDEEslS Z4ZyZl1mnuiXae/Ae6bgAkGAnwpkZ02YMCGmXfSOKf/UVa9bjKntVLaw5+wuQWcjHvzo FvgPWAMYggkIwqV9aRCgDaxmInWgggUK6aqY0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.54.138 with SMTP id q10mr1908794qag.220.1237380473602; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 05:47:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <65D8D15AD26D49269C034EB663175CB6@ns94d01ae4d850> References: <65D8D15AD26D49269C034EB663175CB6@ns94d01ae4d850> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 08:47:53 -0400 Message-ID: <57a24ca70903180547u29bc3cfv2468d1cbbd9e8ca6@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: XKO 18-03.jpg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m276.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Henny, Thank you for the excellent capture! -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 2009/3/18 henny van elst : > Hello Dex,LF > capture XKO > Henny pa3cpm > 73s > Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden > verzonden: > XKO 18-03.jpg > > Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen > het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. > Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe > bijlagen worden afgehandeld. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da01.mx.aol.com (rly-da01.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.75]) by air-da01.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDA013-a4c49b8565b3d3; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 20:25:20 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da01.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA014-a4c49b8565b3d3; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 20:25:03 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LhYjB-0005Tx-J1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 00:24:49 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LhYjB-0005To-4y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 00:24:49 +0000 Received: from fwx.uvtc.net ([195.22.25.2] helo=uvtcmail.se) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LhYj9-0007Jm-5v for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 00:24:49 +0000 thread-index: AcmiqOstb1dg/JWvR6+N/j35CgHleg== X-MEFilter-Version: 6.5.0 Received: from radiorummet ([87.227.51.55]) by uvtcmail.se with MailEnable ESMTP; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 00:24:32 +0000 Message-ID: <1BA1BD4327304EBA8991CB45200F14CB@radiorummet> From: "Gus" To: References: <929C5BBFDED6431E8C9F8642D5402094@DR2> <6F5FDD77751E47668B504D68B5A72CE8@DR2> In-Reply-To: <6F5FDD77751E47668B504D68B5A72CE8@DR2> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 01:24:30 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.4325 Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message Importance: normal X-ME-Bayesian: 0.000000 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_FONT_BIG=0.256,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Re: SM6BHZ Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002F_01C9A2B1.4AAFB4F0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_FONT_BIG, HTML_MESSAGE,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_002F_01C9A2B1.4AAFB4F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable No , less power! Compressor is on now 00:24 Z ----- Original Message -----=20 From: dave.riley3=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 1:17 AM Subject: LF: Re: SM6BHZ Go ahead but all I will see is maybe more power?? ----- Original Message -----=20 From: dave.riley3=20 To: 600MRG=20 Cc: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 6:59 PM Subject: LF: SM6BHZ WSPR loud and clean 504.500 090311 2356 6 -26 1.1 0.504497 SM6BHZ JO57 30 TNX DE /17 ------=_NextPart_000_002F_01C9A2B1.4AAFB4F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
No , less power!
Compressor is on now 00:24=20 Z
----- Original Message -----
dave.riley3
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 1:17= =20 AM
Subject: LF: Re: SM6BHZ

Go ahead but all I will see is maybe more=20 power??
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 dave.riley3
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 6= :59=20 PM
Subject: LF: SM6BHZ

WSPR loud and clean =20 504.500
 
090311 2356   6 -26 =20 1.1   0.504497  SM6BHZ JO57 30
 
 
TNX DE /17
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_002F_01C9A2B1.4AAFB4F0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd05.mx.aol.com (rly-dd05.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.152]) by air-dd08.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD082-b7b49cd2ee025c; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 15:54:17 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd05.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD055-b7b49cd2ee025c; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 15:54:10 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LnI7R-0006DH-Do for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 19:53:33 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LnI7R-0006D8-2S for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 19:53:33 +0000 Received: from [193.252.22.29] (helo=smtp20.orange.fr) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LnI7P-0006jC-Pa for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 19:53:33 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2016.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 5345920000E8 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 20:53:22 +0100 (CET) Received: from JR (Mix-Dijon-111-2-68.w193-250.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.250.55.68]) by mwinf2016.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 36F6320000EF for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 20:53:21 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20090327195321225.36F6320000EF@mwinf2016.orange.fr Message-ID: <200903272053000830.510CFFD5@smtp.wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <20090327111219.y3bcvqcrev6swg8s@webmail4.kuleuven.be> References: <20090327111219.y3bcvqcrev6swg8s@webmail4.kuleuven.be> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (P) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 20:53:00 +0100 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Lazy Man's CW made it to Venus and back Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 >Quoting dl4yhf@freenet.de: > >> The German HR TV will >> send a documentation tonight at 19:30 (local). The EVE >> (Earth-Venus-Earth) details follow tomorrow on Hessischer Rundfunk. It was a very interesting programme. It was also good to see Karl DJ4ZC aga= in. I haven't seen him since we collaborated on the software for Oscar 9. 73 John F5VLF/G3PAI From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (rly-mg03.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.109]) by air-mg01.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG011-a0449acc62f132; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 00:55:20 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG036-a0449acc62f132; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 00:55:08 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LeNVW-0003Au-PX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 05:49:34 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LeNVT-0003Al-Dq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 05:49:31 +0000 Received: from bay0-omc3-s27.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.227]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LeNVH-0002Lk-II for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 05:49:31 +0000 Received: from BAY105-W27 ([65.54.224.127]) by bay0-omc3-s27.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 2 Mar 2009 21:48:53 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [212.4.140.33] From: Lubos OK2BVG To: Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 06:48:52 +0100 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <004401c99b78$02cb52b0$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> References: <000a01c99a91$a54a1180$1402a8c0@e7010> <20090301205328.1s1wth6swu0w80c4@webmail4.kuleuven.be> <20090301205958.za3harvgnsowkw8w@webmail4.kuleuven.be> <49AAF55A.8070106@toya.net.pl> <49ABA94B.9040106@mbsks.franken.de> <004401c99b78$02cb52b0$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Mar 2009 05:48:53.0259 (UTC) FILETIME=[BC0BD5B0:01C99BC3] X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_ef093c25-03c9-4b42-b3fa-9f10e42ed6dc_" Subject: RE: LF: OK0EMW audible X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_ef093c25-03c9-4b42-b3fa-9f10e42ed6dc_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Andrey, LF! That=B4s fine, 549 is good report for my 1W ERP. Thank you for your report! Sposiba i 73! Lubos, OK2BVG *********************************** =20 > From: rn3agc@mail.ru > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 20:46:33 +0000 > Subject: LF: OK0EMW audible >=20 > Hello Lubos, LF, > OK0EMW this evening audible in Moscow, 549. >=20 > 73 > Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV >=20 _________________________________________________________________ Pozvi sv=E9 p=F8=E1tele z Facebooku a Hotmailu do Messengeru! https://www.invite2messenger.net/Default.aspx=3D --_ef093c25-03c9-4b42-b3fa-9f10e42ed6dc_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Andrey, LF!
That=B4s fine, 549 is good report for my 1W ERP. Thank=20= you for your report!

Sposiba i 73!

Lubos, OK2BVG

******= ***************************** 

> From: rn3agc@mail.ru
>= ; To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 20:46:33 +0= 000
> Subject: LF: OK0EMW audible
>
> Hello Lubos, LF,> OK0EMW this evening audible in Moscow, 549.
>
> 73
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St=E1hn=ECte si zcela nov= =FD Messenger 2009! Klikni zde! =3D --_ef093c25-03c9-4b42-b3fa-9f10e42ed6dc_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db07.mx.aol.com (rly-db07.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.82]) by air-db10.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB101-ad649c5412f3dc; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 15:34:29 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db07.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB074-ad649c5412f3dc; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 15:34:10 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ll6wy-00004t-LG for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 19:33:44 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ll6wy-0008WQ-9N for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 19:33:44 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-2-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.53]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ll6ww-0000Kz-EX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 19:33:44 +0000 X-Trace: 170424801/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.59.96/None/g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.59.96 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Microsoft Office Outlook 11Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtAHAI7dxElYajtg/2dsb2JhbACCU1RDhT19g2bGMQeDdwY X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,400,1233532800"; d="scan'208,217";a="170424801" Received: from 88-106-59-96.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.59.96]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 21 Mar 2009 19:33:41 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF -RSGB LF Group" Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 19:33:41 -0000 Message-ID: <004d01c9aa5b$f0abb320$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AcmqW+5OYF4WxZkpT6ewkZ9998wliw== X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 500KHz grabber & beacon uploads. Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_004E_01C9AA5B.F0ABB320" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_004E_01C9AA5B.F0ABB320 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit LF, Apologies for the loss of the grabbers & the inferior beacon monitoring chart. I am carrying out some changes in my garden & I have had to disconnect some parts of the antenna system. I am hoping to complete the work tomorrow (Sunday) & have things back to normal. 73, Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. ------=_NextPart_000_004E_01C9AA5B.F0ABB320 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

LF,

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Apologies for the loss of the g= rabbers & the inferior beacon monitoring chart.

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I am carrying out some changes=20= in my garden & I have had to disconnect some parts of the antenna system.<= /span>

I am hoping to complete the wor= k tomorrow (Sunday) & have things back to normal.

 =

73,

 

Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.=

 

------=_NextPart_000_004E_01C9AA5B.F0ABB320-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (rly-ma08.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.52]) by air-ma09.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMA093-8c149d2786e1a5; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 16:09:36 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA083-8c149d2786e1a5; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 16:09:21 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LokFo-0002Uv-Ok for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 21:08:12 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LokFo-0002Um-Dq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 21:08:12 +0100 Received: from vms173005pub.verizon.net ([206.46.173.5]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LokFm-0002gL-Bs for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 21:08:12 +0100 Received: from DR2 ([71.184.212.10]) by vms173005.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KHD00764ZX5KJT9@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:07:53 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: From: "dave.riley3" To: References: Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 16:07:51 -0400 MIME-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Beacons Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0025_01C9B21A.D7CAB650" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.7 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_70_80, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01C9B21A.D7CAB650 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Any 600M beacons or sigs from EU tonight?? TNX Dave @ WD2XSH/17 ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01C9B21A.D7CAB650 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Any 600M beacons or sigs from EU=20 tonight??
 
 
TNX
 
Dave @ WD2XSH/17
 
 
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XGJ signal was good last night.

Lubos, OK2BVG,=20= JN88KS

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quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d296.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Thanks to Henny, Lubos, Victor, and Andrey for the XGJ reports and captures the past two days. XGJ off tonight due to storms. --=20 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 2009/3/26 henny van elst : > Hi Warren, > capture 2 > henny cpm > 73s > Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden > verzonden: > XGJ=A0 2.jpg > > Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen > het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. > Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe > bijlagen worden afgehandeld. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de09.mx.aol.com (rly-de09.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.145]) by air-de03.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDE032-50049b19afa269; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 16:52:21 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de09.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE095-50049b19afa269; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 16:51:57 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lfhx6-0002GU-Ue for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 21:51:32 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lfhx6-0002GL-1r for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 21:51:32 +0000 Received: from mailout.toya.net.pl ([217.113.224.27] ident=postfix) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lfhx5-00060Q-9M for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 21:51:31 +0000 Received: from localhost (unknown [192.168.120.26]) by lazir.toya.net.pl (TOYAnet MailServer) with ESMTP id C9BFC8C34D for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 22:51:29 +0100 (CET) X-TOYA-AV: AntyVir-Skaner at toya.net.pl Received: from lazir.toya.net.pl ([192.168.120.25]) by localhost (antyvir.toya.net.pl [192.168.120.26]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zs7Lsl2T4uGT for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 22:51:29 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.11.178.152] (lazir [217.113.224.3]) (Authenticated sender: unimlyn) by lazir.toya.net.pl (TOYAnet MailServer) with ESMTP id 693E68C347 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 22:51:29 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <49B19AE0.1020304@toya.net.pl> Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 22:51:28 +0100 From: =?UTF-8?B?UGlvdHIgTcWCeW5hcnNraQ==?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <004401c99e6d$d4f771e0$1402a8c0@e7010> In-Reply-To: <004401c99e6d$d4f771e0$1402a8c0@e7010> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: DI2AG WSPR Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------050107040609040504030307" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TITLE_EMPTY,LINES_OF_YELLING,LINES_OF_YELLING_2 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --------------050107040609040504030307 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Walter und Marianne Staubach wrote: > Dear All on MF, > as Roland ( DL3NDR, former DI2AT ) lend his equipment to me, > DI2AG will create a non-stop-whisper-weekend beginning tonight 18UTC > an ending Monday morning 7UTC. Power will be 27dBm, QRG 505.090KHz. I > am interested in your reports, also daylight propagation.Thank you in > advance. > 73 Walter DI2AG > > Hello Walter, LF group no problem with decoding your wspr beacon: 2118 -17 -0.6 0.505094 0 DI2AG JN59 23 2134 -24 -0.3 0.505094 0 DI2AG JN59 23 2140 -23 -0.6 0.505094 0 DI2AG JN59 23 2146 -14 -0.4 0.505094 0 DI2AG JN59 23 with its frequency placed nicely between qrss3 beacons of OK0EMW (audible, 30 Hz below) and DI2AM ( "visible" in wspr window, 90 Hz up) have to finish at this moment but will try to listen over the weekend also with the daytime RX'ing. 73, peter, sq7mpj qth: lodz, poland /jo91rs/ --------------050107040609040504030307 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Walter und Marianne Staubach wrote:
Dear All on MF,
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0 as Roland ( DL3NDR, former DI2AT ) lend his equipment to me, DI2AG will create a non-stop-whisper-weekend beginning tonight 18UTC an=C2=A0ending Monday morning 7UTC. Power will be 27dBm, QRG 505.090KHz. I am interested in your reports, also daylight propagation.Thank you in advance.
73=C2=A0=C2=A0 Walter=C2=A0=C2=A0 DI2= AG
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
Hello Walter, LF group

no problem with decoding your wspr beacon:

2118 -17 -0.6=C2=A0=C2=A0 0.505094=C2=A0 0 DI2AG JN59 23
2134 -24 -0.3=C2=A0=C2=A0 0.505094=C2=A0 0 DI2AG JN59 23
2140 -23 -0.6=C2=A0=C2=A0 0.505094=C2=A0 0 DI2AG JN59 23
2146 -14 -0.4=C2=A0=C2=A0 0.505094=C2=A0 0 DI2AG JN59 23

with its frequency placed nicely between qrss3=C2=A0 beacons of=C2=A0 OK0EMW (audible, 30 Hz below) and DI2AM ( "visible" in wspr window, 90 Hz up)
have to finish=C2=A0 at this moment but will try to listen over the weekend= =C2=A0 also with the daytime=C2=A0 RX'ing.
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 73, peter, sq7mpj
qth: lodz, poland /jo91rs/
--------------050107040609040504030307-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg10.mx.aol.com (rly-dg10.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.94]) by air-dg02.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDG021-5fb49c495b010e; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 03:22:45 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg10.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG106-5fb49c495b010e; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 03:22:26 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LkvWC-0007wB-2v for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 07:21:20 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LkvWB-0007w2-O5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 07:21:19 +0000 Received: from psmtp30.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.32]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LkvW7-0007jO-40 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 07:21:19 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp30.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KGU00185HR60U@psmtp30.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 08:21:07 +0100 (MET) Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 08:21:04 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <293317D7B88A4C62A9BCB4856AFBDB83@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: WPF 20-03.jpg Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_Xlaq9DRXQf7n1tUcXaJFYw)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_Xlaq9DRXQf7n1tUcXaJFYw) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_MDzSDbTbM2aOhqUhhnjJpw)" --Boundary_(ID_MDzSDbTbM2aOhqUhhnjJpw) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Hi,Lf traces WPF Henny pa3cpm 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: wpf 20-03.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld. --Boundary_(ID_MDzSDbTbM2aOhqUhhnjJpw) Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
Hi,Lf
traces WPF
Henny pa3cpm
73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
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--Boundary_(ID_UKckFNg1carOmzTJ3LElEw)-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma01.mx.aol.com (rly-ma01.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.44]) by air-ma05.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMA053-88d49b3d821c1; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 10:37:48 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma01.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA017-88d49b3d821c1; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 10:37:25 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LgK7I-0005nU-Sl for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 14:36:36 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LgK7I-0005nL-4E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 14:36:36 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.159]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LgK7G-00036T-O3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 14:36:36 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3428.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 76BFC1C00083 for ; Sun, 8 Mar 2009 15:36:20 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.31.236]) by mwinf3428.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 734571C00082 for ; Sun, 8 Mar 2009 15:36:17 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20090308143617472.734571C00082@mwinf3428.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: References: <0566EF6DE20B4249A3E74859BF9BA2C6@AGB> <9C03FBF153AB478A9B0DBC5580CF20D2@AGB> <28FA0F184B25444F8BA2F1EC5FC42C04@AGB> In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 14:36:16 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8064.206 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8064.206 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: AW: 503.7 Multi-function beacon ... Its working ! Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0051_01C99FFB.3D1258B0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0051_01C99FFB.3D1258B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Grerhard, Andy's post about the new beacon came out of the blue, (as is the signal h= ihi), Working on this, I've simply added a page to the uk500khz news group= and posted links about to generate some interest and make sure the beacon=20= details are known to hams and swl's out side this reflector ..=20 The only thing that occurs to me is that there is a possibility for recepti= on reports to be directed to the 5 meg group , I note that the graph gener= ator by G4IRX requests your call and locator before processing the file an= d presenting you with a plot. so I will see if anything can be done to prev= ent this , the data format is of course distorted by having only one active=20= beacon.. so it will show up .. but may as yet be unexpected ...! I note from previous email that the pulse aspect of the beacon is required=20= for precise measurements, I think that may be possible to set up a 'experime= nt' but the aspect of interference to other users may be significant, Andy= has referred to the concept of 'phase reversal' in a continues carrier syst= em (or medium pulse ?) that would perhaps be a acceptable mode of modulation= , weather it could be transmitted by a 'normal' transmitter im note sure , b= ut its worth noting that activities on 500, to date are not 'funded' as suc= h and time and capital out lay are part of the 'hobby' and such hardware req= uirements and software re-writes are beyond many of the active stations. bu= t perhaps as interest spreads .. things may change ..?=20 Tnx-=20 Graham G0NBD IO83LK From: Beckmann, Gerhard=20 Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 11:06 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Cc: 'Robert Hemesley'=20 Subject: LF: AW: 503.7 Multi-function beacon ... Its working ! Hello Graham, Hello Andy,=20 =20 reading about your activities concerning Multi-function beacon I tried yeste= rday evening to catch your signals, but unfortunately with no results copyin= g your sig. May be condx were not good enough. Moreover I had some bad manm= ade QRM from TV and PC. =20 As Rob Hemesley told you I am active in 5-MHz-beaco- monitoring specia= lly concerning scattergram monitoring in order to analyse signal path situa= tion (direct wave / sky wave behaviour). But I am running both analysis software, GB3RAL.exe and Scattergram.ex= e and it would not be any problem to modify the internal PC-clock specially=20= regarding GB3RAL.exe in order to analyse the long term signal level of your=20= Multi-function beacon. So I will try to continue monitoring your Multi-funct= ion beacon hopefully that condx will be better in the next evening sessions=20= (hi). If there will be Scattergram acties in future I certainly need some mo= re dB signal level, but it would be very interesting to investigate the sign= al path situation. Of course, this is more interesting for those participants who are loc= ated in a distance range between 150 and 300 km in order to monitor the slid= e crossover from direct wave to sky wave signal path.=20 However, thank you very much for implementation of your very interest= ing Multi-function beacon project and I will keep on running my monitoring a= ctivities and will inform you in any case about further results. =20 vy 73 and a lot of success by running Multi-function beacons, I will be "on=20= the qui vive" !!! =20 de Gerhard / DK6NI (JN59LN) =20 By the way:=20 Dial frequency 505.2 kHz, is that o.k.? (because GB3RAL.exe is decoding with= 1500 Hz too). For BPSK31-decoding I am using DigiPan Vers.2.0 =20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =20 =20 =20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blackshe= ep.org] Im Auftrag von Graham Gesendet: Samstag, 7. M=E4rz 2009 23:46 An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Betreff: LF: 503.7 Multi-function beacon ... Its working ! =20 So far so good .. quite a step up in signal round 2100 hrs =20 no frequency decode before then , 15 db over noise at 2130 =20 but a trend showing=20 about 1 hour slow qsb=20 =20 any other reports ? =20 G ..=20 =20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.9/1988 - Release Date: 03/06/09 19= :17:00 ------=_NextPart_000_0051_01C99FFB.3D1258B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi, Grerhard,
 
Andy's post about the  new beacon came= out of=20 the  blue, (as is the signal hihi), Working on this,  I've simply=20 added a page to the  uk500khz news group and posted links about to = ;=20 generate some interest and make sure the beacon details are known=20= to=20 hams and swl's out side this reflector ..
 
The only thing that occurs to  me is t= hat=20 there is a possibility for reception reports to be  directed to the 5 m= eg=20 group , I note that the  graph generator by G4IRX  requests your c= all=20 and locator  before processing the file and presenting you with a plot.= so=20 I will see if anything can be done to  prevent this , the data format i= s of=20 course distorted by having only one active beacon.. so it will show up ... b= ut=20 may as yet be unexpected ...!
 
I note from previous email that the pulse a= spect of=20 the  beacon is required for precise measurements, I think that may be=20 possible to set up a 'experiment'  but the aspect of interference to&nb= sp;=20 other users may be significant, Andy has referred to the concept of 'phase=20 reversal' in a continues carrier system (or medium pulse ?) that would perha= ps=20 be a acceptable mode of modulation, weather it could be transmitted by a=20 'normal' transmitter im note sure , but its worth noting that activities on=20= 500,=20 to date  are not 'funded' as such and time and capital out lay are part= of=20 the 'hobby' and such hardware requirements  and software re-writes are=20 beyond many of the active stations. but perhaps as interest spreads .. thing= s=20 may change ..?
 
Tnx-
 
Graham
 
G0NBD
IO83LK
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 --__Next_1236211885_Part33__-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da01.mx.aol.com (rly-da01.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.75]) by air-da08.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDA084-a4a49bf5e7923; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 04:25:43 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da01.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA012-a4a49bf5e7923; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 04:25:30 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LjUbw-0001Nm-Al for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 08:25:20 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LjUbv-0001Nd-3J for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 08:25:19 +0000 Received: from mail-bw0-f164.google.com ([209.85.218.164]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LjUbs-0000S3-9O for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 08:25:19 +0000 Received: by bwz8 with SMTP id 8so4248405bwz.4 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 01:25:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=4NW9u0pqGdD3Hiva7KOZxRd8/Tf+JeBteqb46yb48po=; b=TE8COTsmZcD/EXGDbf09cdaOqTrsrv0c6peACC36xfdyq4o4NprABA8Z7WowoZieWc zXTHT3SRo+CA+6KpH7vGj+8VAVuSoI/Lp1smIvxgFaFZILm/IUFogN0iK27Kj5BPbYvf KO5lU1ZGMFmMQ0FF8Q+GpHOZL/UMiCT9yT/wg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=XKrkXRv6eyAzf2PrafVLZPIt6MLMpFqazKCfMgrmtaMQsj/gqfEiMtnbbdu5Dh0dir eKjdmBf+FLpGRdAbzqa4gZZ1ebvBXFILhaK7uh45LTj0YAKfSe0M3WUg+1fnEZP4y9+J mCOBa1F+dgVJffnoy59PHD5B50TJuR1mWfwf8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.124.10 with SMTP id s10mr1920279bkr.34.1237276509488; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 00:55:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <916F3329CAA846A19B450540FCC7E0AB@AGB> References: <009001c9a588$7eb02c60$6401a8c0@asus> <004501c9a623$a4bf81d0$6401a8c0@asus> <2ED02F4327204E3C903828F9E18AA72B@AGB> <001e01c9a665$ebeac870$6401a8c0@asus> <00be01c9a66e$c8bfdbc0$0900a8c0@AM> <004a01c9a677$2a8b48a0$6401a8c0@asus> <005101c9a679$df148f50$6401a8c0@asus> <916F3329CAA846A19B450540FCC7E0AB@AGB> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 07:55:09 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5a826d6466904654be230 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNSAFE,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d251.2 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --001636c5a826d6466904654be230 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Easily, all you need is a five second transmission of carrier at xx:05:25 xx:20:25 etc But accurate timing to at least one second accuracy is essential, so the PC clock will have to be set continuously. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/3/16 Graham > Andy, > > Is there any way the slots could be filled using a pc ... ? if a small ex= e > could be run to make a cw pulse then that would be no problem ? > > G .. > > *From:* Andy Talbot > *Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2009 9:36 PM > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > *Subject:* Re: LF: RE: Syncback software > > See you just have - got quite a shock until I realised the noise had > plummeted as well. > Any takers for the 5 and 6 minute slots? > > Andy G4JNT > www.g4jnt.com > > > 2009/3/16 Gary - G4WGT > >> *Andy,* >> >> ** >> >> *OK, I will insert an attenuator at the antenna socket (that=92s an easy >> move) & watch how it performs. It is switched at 10dB steps so I will sta= rt >> at 10db of course.* >> >> ** >> >> *Cheers,* >> >> ** >> >> *Gary.* >> >> ** >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From:* owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto: >> owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] *On Behalf Of *Andy Talbot >> *Sent:* 16 March 2009 20:45 >> >> *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> *Subject:* Re: LF: RE: Syncback software >> >> >> >> Doesn't matter which - just total system gain. That S/W works best if th= e >> noise threshold rides at about 10dB above the baseline, then it allows f= or >> up to 70 - 80dB of signal peaks. >> >> >> Andy G4JNT >> www.g4jnt.com >> >> 2009/3/16 Gary - G4WGT >> >> Alan, >> >> When you wrote :- >> >> my only comment is that you may have too much gain in the system. >> >> Are you meaning sound card or receiver gain? >> >> Gary. >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> >> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Alan Melia >> Sent: 16 March 2009 19:38 >> >> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software >> >> Hi Gary my only comment is that you may have too much gain in the system.= . >> It >> is sometimes better to have the noise further down nearer the axis. >> >> I am afraid there is a major problem with this kind of beacon, when the >> fading period is shorter than the sampling interval, so you dont really >> know >> what the path is doing. The only reliable points are the peaks, the >> troughs >> dont really mean anything without some very sophisticated analysis and >> probably two spaced receivers. However it does give a snapshot of the ban= d >> without taking up too much bandwidth (this was what was required for 5MHz >> too). Despite all the data collected very little analysis has actually be >> done on the 5MHz data collected by this program. The one succesfull bit o= f >> work was that published in Radcom by Marcis Walden G0IJZ. I used it for >> some >> time whilst Andy was testing the Poldhu beacon on 160m and also during th= e >> 1st two months that ran. I was certainly surprised by the daytime path on >> 160m from here. I have seen the data collected in Canada via Joe Craig >> VO1NA >> and it is difficult to see how to use it. >> >> Still if you dont collect the data you will never know!! >> >> Alan G3NYK >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Gary - G4WGT" >> To: >> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 6:35 PM >> Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software >> >> >> > Hi Graham, LF, >> > >> > >> > >> > The original HTML Code for the 2 minute refresh is still inserted into >> the >> > page format, so upload is 30 minute intervals with Syncback & 2 minute >> > refresh. I have left the refresh in case I revert back to the original >> > grabber page. I will look at changing it if I continue to use the beaco= n >> > chart upload. >> > >> > >> > >> > I would like to have feedback from the LF group regarding the page, if >> you >> > check it out periodically, is it useful to you, what are you looking >> for. >> > >> > >> > >> > You can view the chart on my web site at :- >> > >> > >> > >> > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html >> > >> > >> > >> > 73 >> > >> > >> > >> > Gary - G4WGT. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > _____ >> > >> > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham >> > Sent: 16 March 2009 17:20 >> > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> > Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software >> > >> > >> > >> > Hi Gary, >> > >> > >> > >> > The page seemed to refresh quite often ... are there two settings ? >> > >> > >> > >> > G .. >> > >> > >> > >> > From: Gary - G4WGT >> > >> > Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:40 AM >> > >> > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> > >> > Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software >> > >> > >> > >> > Hi Graham, LF, >> > >> > >> > >> > You wrote :- >> > >> > >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute >> > intervals. <<< that could be backed off to 15 mins as the beacon only >> > sends every 15 ?? >> > >> > >> > >> > I mentioned in my previous mail to ignore the text on the page as it wa= s >> > originally for grabber 1 for when I upgrade the web site (to a new >> design >> & >> > better navigation etc), also mentioned is that upload is every 30 >> minutes. >> > >> > >> > >> > If the uploaded chart proves useful or interesting to operators & >> viewers >> > then I will change the text & make it a permanent feature for the >> > foreseeable future. >> > >> > >> > >> > BTW :- >> > >> > >> > >> > For those of you who are not familiar with the chart - >> > >> > >> > >> > The RED trace is Andy's (G4JNT) beacon signal & the BLACK trace is the >> noise >> > level at my QTH. >> > >> > >> > >> > The Blue & GREEN are not in use & should be ignored on this chart as >> they >> > are for the other beacons used when monitoring on the 5MHz allocation. >> > >> > >> > >> > Cheers, >> > >> > >> > >> > Gary - G4WGT >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > _____ >> > >> > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham >> > Sent: 15 March 2009 22:17 >> > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> > Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software >> > >> > >> > >> > Gary.. >> > >> > >> > >> > That looks good ... 0500 looks best time for a qso .. see you then >> Smile >> > emoticon >> > >> > >> > >> > >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute >> > intervals. <<< that could be backed off to 15 mins as the beacon only >> > sends every 15 ?? >> > >> > >> > >> > the 15 db over the noise in day time is the same at this qth .. looks >> like >> > the big dips round 1900 where just when we where testing .. typical >> hihi >> > >> > >> > >> > tnx- G .. >> > >> > >> > >> > From: Gary - G4WGT >> > >> > Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 7:55 PM >> > >> > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> > >> > Subject: LF: RE: Syncback software >> > >> > >> > >> > LF, >> > >> > >> > >> > I have now got the software, Syncback running correctly (I think). >> > >> > >> > >> > The purpose of this is to upload the chart from Andy's beacon as >> received >> > here to my web site periodically, ie. every 30 minutes. >> > >> > >> > >> > I now have a receiver running 24/7 monitoring Andy,s beacon on 503.7KHz= . >> > >> > >> > >> > You can view the chart on my web site at :- >> > >> > >> > >> > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html >> > >> > >> > >> > For the moment ignore the text on the page as it is originally designed >> to >> > use with the 500KHz grabber when I renew my web site design. If it is a >> > useful upload I will make it a permanent feature but may have to extend >> the >> > frequency coverage of grabber 1 so not to overload the PC with >> operations >> > which will cause the PC to struggle. >> > >> > >> > >> > Let me have your comments please. >> > >> > >> > >> > 73 >> > >> > >> > >> > Gary - G4WGT. >> > >> > >> > >> > _____ >> > >> > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT >> > Sent: 15 March 2009 16:10 >> > To: LF -RSGB LF Group >> > Subject: LF: Syncback software >> > >> > >> > >> > Hi LF, >> > >> > >> > >> > If anyone is using Syncback software & can help, please. >> > >> > >> > >> > I am tying to upload a file to my website who's filename does not >> change, >> > only the file size changes. I tried to do it with Argo-upload but faile= d >> so >> > I downloaded Syncback & still failing. >> > >> > >> > >> > Syncback gives me the following message :- >> > >> > >> > >> > ********************************** >> > >> > Can connect, but unable to change to destination directory: >> > >> > /chart01.bmp:not a directory >> > >> > ********************************** >> > >> > The Syncback help does not give me the answer. >> > >> > >> > >> > Any help will be appreciated >> > >> > >> > >> > Or >> > >> > >> > >> > Will Argo-Upload do it? >> > >> > >> > >> > Or >> > >> > >> > >> > Is there something else to do it? >> > >> > >> > >> > Thanks in anticipation, >> > >> > >> > >> > 73, >> > >> > >> > >> > Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. >> > >> > >> > >> > _____ >> > >> > >> > No virus found in this incoming message. >> > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.13/2001 - Release Date: >> 03/14/09 >> > 06:54:00 >> > >> > _____ >> > >> > >> > No virus found in this incoming message. >> > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.15/2003 - Release Date: >> 03/15/09 >> > 14:07:00 >> > >> > >> >> >> >> > > ------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.15/2004 - Release Date: 03/16/09 > 07:04:00 > > --001636c5a826d6466904654be230 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Easily, all you need is a five second transmission of carrier at xx:05:= 25 xx:20:25 etc
But accurate timing to at least one second accuracy is essential, so th= e PC clock will have to be set continuously.

Andy =A0G4JNT
www= .g4jnt.com


2009/3/16 Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
Andy,
=A0
Is there any way the=A0 slots could be=20= filled using a pc ... ? if a small exe could be run to=A0 make a cw=A0 pulse= then that would be no problem ?
=A0
G ..


See you just have - got quite a shock until I realised the noise had pl= ummeted as well.
Any takers for the 5 and 6 minute slots?
2009/3/16 Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk= >

Andy,

<= /b>=A0

OK, I will inse= rt an attenuator at the antenna socket (that=92s an easy move) & watch h= ow it performs. It is switched at 10dB steps so I will start at 10db of cour= se.

<= /b>=A0

Cheers,<= /font>

<= /b>=A0

Gary.

<= /b>=A0

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_= lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf=20= Of Andy Talbot
Sent: 16 March 2009 20:45=20


To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org
Subject: Re: LF:=20= RE: Syncback software

=A0

Doesn't matter which - just total system gain.=A0 That S/W works best i= f the noise threshold rides at about 10dB above the baseline,=A0 then it all= ows for up to 70 - 80dB of signal peaks.

<= span style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">
Andy =A0G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com

2009/3/16 Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>

Alan,

When you wrote :-

<= span style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">my only comment is that you may have too much= gain in the system.

Are you meaning sound card or receiver gain?

Gary.



-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<= /a>

[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Alan Melia
Sent= : 16 March 2009 19:38

<= span style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF= : RE: Syncback software

Hi Gary my only comment is that you may have too much gain in the system= . It
is sometimes better to have the noise further down nearer the axis..=

I am afraid there is a major problem with this kind of beacon, when=20= the
fading period is shorter than the sampling interval, so you dont really know=
what the path is doing. The only reliable points are the peaks, the trou= ghs
dont really mean anything without some very sophisticated analysis an= d
probably two spaced receivers. However it does give a snapshot of the bandwithout taking up too much bandwidth (this was what was required for 5MHz<= br>too). Despite all the data collected very little analysis has actually be=
done on the 5MHz data collected by this program. The one succesfull bit ofwork was that published in Radcom by Marcis Walden G0IJZ. I used it for so= me
time whilst Andy was testing the Poldhu beacon on 160m and also during= the
1st two months that ran. I was certainly surprised by the daytime path on160m from here. I have seen the data collected in Canada via Joe Craig VO1N= A
and it is difficult to see how to use it.

Still if you dont coll= ect the data you will never know!!

Alan G3NYK




----- Original Message -----
From: &quo= t;Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 6:35 PM
Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback softwa= re


> Hi Graham, LF,
>
>
>
> The origin= al HTML Code for the 2 minute refresh is still inserted into the
> pag= e format, so upload is 30 minute intervals with Syncback & 2 minute
> refresh. I have left the refresh in case I revert back to the original<= br>> grabber page. I will look at changing it if I continue to use the be= acon
> chart upload.
>
>
>
> I would like to h= ave feedback from the LF group regarding the page, if you
> check it out periodically, is it useful to you, what are you looking fo= r.
>
>
>
> You can view the chart on my web site at=20= :-
>
>
>
> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/g= rabber3.html
>
>
>
> 73
>
>
>
> Gary - G4WGT= .
>
>
>
>
>
> =A0 _____
>
>=20= From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham
&= gt; Sent: 16 March 2009 17:20
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software
>
>
>
>=20= Hi Gary,
>
>
>
> The page seemed to =A0refresh quite= often ... are there two settings ?
>
>
>
> G ..
>
>
>
> From: Gary - G4WGT <mailto:g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
><= br>> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:40 AM
>
> To: rsgb_lf_group@bla= cksheep.org
>
> Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software
>
>
><= br>> Hi Graham, LF,
>
>
>
> You wrote :-
><= br>> >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at=20= 2 minute
> intervals. <<< that could be backed off to =A015 mins as the b= eacon only
> sends every 15 ??
>
>
>
> I menti= oned in my previous mail to ignore the text on the page as it was
> or= iginally for grabber 1 for when I upgrade the web site (to a new design
&
> better navigation etc), also mentioned is that upload is every= 30 minutes.
>
>
>
> If the uploaded chart proves us= eful or interesting to operators & viewers
> then I will change th= e text & make it a permanent feature for the
> foreseeable future.
>
>
>
> BTW :-
>
&= gt;
>
> For those of you =A0who are not familiar with the chart=20= -
>
>
>
> The RED trace is Andy's (G4JNT) beacon= signal & the BLACK trace is the
noise
> level at my QTH.
>
>
>
> The Blue &= ; GREEN are not in use & should be ignored on this chart as they
>= are for the other beacons used when monitoring on the 5MHz allocation.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> Gary -=20= G4WGT
>
>
>
>
>
> =A0 _____
>
&= gt; From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham
&= gt; Sent: 15 March 2009 22:17
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software
>
>
>
>=20= Gary..
>
>
>
> That looks good =A0... 0500 looks bes= t time for a qso .. see you then Smile
> emoticon
>
>
>
> >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refres= h at 2 minute
> intervals. <<< that could be backed off to=20= =A015 mins as the beacon only
> sends every 15 ??
>
>
>
> the =A015 db over the noise in day time is the =A0same at this=20= qth .. looks
like
> the big dips round 1900 =A0where just when we w= here testing .. =A0typical hihi
>
>
>
> tnx- G .. >
>
>
> From: Gary - G4WGT <mailto:g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
><= br>> Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 7:55 PM
>
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksh= eep.org
>
> Subject: LF: RE: Syncback software
>
>
>
&= gt; LF,
>
>
>
> I have now got the software, Syncbac= k running correctly (I think).
>
>
>
> The purpose o= f this is to upload the chart from Andy's beacon as received
> here to my web site periodically, ie. every 30 minutes.
>
>=
>
> I now have a receiver running 24/7 monitoring Andy,s beacon= on 503.7KHz.
>
>
>
> You can view the chart on my w= eb site at :-
>
>
>
> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber= 3.html
>
>
>
> For the moment ignore the text on= the page as it is originally designed to
> use with the 500KHz grabber when I renew my web site design. If it is a=
> useful upload I will make it a permanent feature but may have to ex= tend
the
> frequency coverage of grabber 1 so not to overload the P= C with operations
> which will cause the PC to struggle.
>
>
>
> Le= t me have your comments please.
>
>
>
> 73
>>
>
> Gary - G4WGT.
>
>
>
> =A0 ___= __
>
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb= _lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT
> Sent: 15 March 2009 16:10
> To: LF -RSGB LF Group
> Subject= : LF: Syncback software
>
>
>
> Hi LF,
>
&g= t;
>
> If anyone is using Syncback software & can help, plea= se.
>
>
>
> I am tying to upload a file to my website who&#= 39;s filename does not change,
> only the file size changes. I tried t= o do it with Argo-upload but failed
so
> I downloaded Syncback &= ; still failing.
>
>
>
> Syncback gives me the following message :-
&= gt;
>
>
> **********************************
>
&g= t; Can connect, but unable to change to destination directory:
>
> /chart01.bmp:not a directory
>
> **************************= ********
>
> The Syncback help does not give me the answer.
&= gt;
>
>
> Any help will be appreciated
>
>
>
> Or
>
>
>
> Will Argo-Upload do it?
&= gt;
>
>
> Or
>
>
>
> Is there some= thing else to do it?
>
>
>
> Thanks in anticipation,=
>
>
>
> 73,
>
>
>
> Gary - G4WG= T - IO83QP.
>
>
>
> =A0 _____
>
>
>= ; No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.13/2001 - Release Date: 03/14= /09
> 06:54:00
>
> =A0 _____
>
>
> No vi= rus found in this incoming message.
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>


=A0


<= /div>


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-- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 10:51 AM, wrote: > hi all, > > good copy xgj,traces xko > > 73 > > Victor From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh01.mx.aol.com (rly-mh01.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.137]) by air-mh06.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMH064-bb549b3bc19269; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 08:38:00 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh01.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH015-bb549b3bc19269; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 08:37:48 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LgIFZ-0004SS-3J for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 12:37:01 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LgIFY-0004SJ-BN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 12:37:00 +0000 Received: from smtp2b.orange.fr ([80.12.242.145]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LgIFX-0000uK-Po for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 12:37:00 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2b09.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id ACBF17000097 for ; Sun, 8 Mar 2009 13:36:51 +0100 (CET) Received: from JR (Mix-Dijon-107-3-33.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.248.2.33]) by mwinf2b09.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 89CA47000090 for ; Sun, 8 Mar 2009 13:36:50 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20090308123650564.89CA47000090@mwinf2b09.orange.fr Message-ID: <200903081336210669.16D951B8@smtp.wanadoo.fr> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (P) Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2009 13:36:21 +0100 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: On 137 at 1146z: "xdv r wet 10c calm 73 su va bwo" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 20 to 30 dB over the noise but with interruptions from some local QRM. John Rabson F5VLF 58800 Cervon France JN17vg From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf07.mx.aol.com (rly-mf07.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.177]) by air-mf04.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMF041-97249ce79ea1b2; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 15:26:57 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf07.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF078-97249ce79ea1b2; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 15:26:36 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LneAH-0000Pq-MO for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 19:25:57 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LneAH-0000Ph-3w for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 19:25:57 +0000 Received: from relay3.ptmail.sapo.pt ([212.55.154.23] helo=sapo.pt) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LneAF-0006rY-Jp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 19:25:57 +0000 Received: (qmail 24195 invoked from network); 28 Mar 2009 19:24:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sapo.pt) (10.134.37.163) by relay3 with SMTP; 28 Mar 2009 19:24:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 5310 invoked from network); 28 Mar 2009 19:24:30 -0000 X-AntiVirus: PTMail-AV 0.3-0.92.0 X-Virus-Status: Clean (0.00437 seconds) Received: from unknown (HELO TORRE) (hpessoa@sapo.pt@[82.155.194.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mta13 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 28 Mar 2009 19:24:30 -0000 Message-ID: <007201c9afda$c31fc3e0$6501a8c0@TORRE> From: "Henrique Pessoa" To: References: <49CBF051.9090707@usa.net> <49CBFB9E.9040903@usa.net> <49CC0310.3040808@telia.com> <200903270850420424.4E77B52F@smtp.wanadoo.fr> Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 19:24:06 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090327-0, 27-03-2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Lazy Man's CW made it to Venus and back Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Well, for the statistics, a portuguese version same sense is also available it reads " dar pérolas a porcos ". 73 Henrique CT1HX ----- Original Message ----- From: "John RABSON" To: Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 7:50 AM Subject: Re: LF: Lazy Man's CW made it to Venus and back On 26/03/2009 at 23:34 Johan H. Bodin wrote: >I didn't know it was an English saying/proverb! The swedish translation >"Kasta pärlor för svinen" is sometimes used in similar circumstances... Very close. The English version has the same origins as Swedish "Casting pearls before swine". 73 John F5VLF From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh11.mx.aol.com (rly-mh11.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.147]) by air-mh08.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMH083-61749bb7c44275; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 05:43:43 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh11.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH114-61749bb7c44275; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 05:43:34 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LiQOi-0007u0-T1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 09:43:16 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LiQOi-0007tr-89 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 09:43:16 +0000 Received: from imo-m27.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.8]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LiQOg-0008Pu-1Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 09:43:16 +0000 Received: from F4DTL@aol.com by imo-m27.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id l.ca8.43bde934 (39955) for ; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 05:42:55 -0400 (EDT) From: F4DTL@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 05:42:54 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5029 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: F6CWA F6BWO reception ICOM 7200 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_ca8.43bde934.36ecd61e_boundary" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --part1_ca8.43bde934.36ecd61e_boundary Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1237023773" -------------------------------1237023773 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP RX : Icom IC7200 Ant: Miniwhip -------------------------------1237023773 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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<731EB49F88B309428FFDDD2423F810E4B90C1C@HERMES4.ds.leeds.ac.uk> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: <731EB49F88B309428FFDDD2423F810E4B90C1C@HERMES4.ds.leeds.ac.uk> Thread-Topic: Re: energy saving bulbs Thread-Index: AcmgBQlcGnSesynkRq62WV9GOYbLuQAI+pBo References: <1794381892.23372.1236524009509.JavaMail.mail@webmail03> <007f01c9a004$97057380$0900a8c0@AM> From: Chris Trayner To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Mar 2009 20:32:14.0694 (UTC) FILETIME=[F76DC060:01C9A02C] X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C9A02C.F81A4D68" Subject: LF: RE: Re: energy saving bulbs X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) ------_=_NextPart_001_01C9A02C.F81A4D68 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear All, Thanks, Alan, for your thoughts. > The tale that filament lamps are inefficient is a myth !! All the energy f= ed to the bulb is converted into radiation ! some is light and some is heat.....a CLF just produces less heat and more light and more polution! Well, in a sense you're right: efficiency is defined as (energy out) / (ener= gy in), and the conservation of energy principle implies that (in the steady= state) everything is 100% efficient ;-) In practice, by efficiency one means (wanted energy out) / (energy in), and=20= when you turn on a lamp you're not necessarily cold. In engineering terms it= 's better to decouple the things and have a lamp produce just light.=20 - Electricity is generated at something like 1/3 efficiency overall, and usi= ng fuels to generate heat directly is better. - The idea that waste heat can be used is relevant in cold climates, but pre= sumably less so nearer the equator. I also wonder whether these discussions may be useful only for a limited tim= e. I get the impression that LED room lighting may be starting to replace ot= her forms. Is this right? How does its efficiency compare with other forms?=20= Opinions, anyone? If LED room lighting does come in, it raises new problems of interference re= levant to LF. One thinks of LEDs as being innocent DC devices fed via a resi= stor. But modern designs often turn them on and off at frequencies in the kH= z range, generating harmonics going into the lower radio bands. This has bee= n known for some time in the cave radio community, where 87kHz is the most c= ommonly used band. The Cave Radio Journal has also documented interference w= ith 2m and 70cm amateur band handhelds. This can work both ways - if I speak= into a PMR446 radio it quenches my LED helmet lamp - the Empire strikes bac= k! Cave radio experience is that interference from LED lamps is very short rang= e, but these lamps are driven from local batteries. Will mains-driven ones r= adiate from the wiring? Do vehicle LEDs cause interference? Does anyone have= any experience of this? 73, Chris G4OKW ----------------------------- Dr Chris Trayner School of Electronic & Electrical Engineering, The University of Leeds, Leeds LS2 9JT, United Kingdom Tel: +44 113 34 32053 Fax: +44 113 34 32032 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C9A02C.F81A4D68 Content-Type: application/ms-tnef; name="winmail.dat" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 eJ8+IhEUAQaQCAAEAAAAAAABAAEAAQeQBgAIAAAA5AQAAAAAAADoAAEIgAcAGAAAAElQTS5N aWNyb3NvZnQgTWFpbC5Ob3RlADEIAQ2ABAACAAAAAgACAAEEgAEAHAAAAFJFOiBSZTogZW5l cmd5IHNhdmluZyBidWxicwBsCQEFgAMADgAAANkHAwAIABQAIAAPAAAALgEBIIADAA4AAADZ BwMACAAUACAADwAAAC4BAQmAAQAhAAAAMUIwNTVFRkFDQ0E3OUE0OTg3RTVFMzM5RUM2NzRC MjEAWQcBA5AGAAwOAAA5AAAAAwAmAAAAAAADADYAAAAAAEAAOQBoTRr4LKDJAR4APQABAAAA BQAAAFJFOiAAAAAAAgFHAAEAAAA5AAAAYz11czthPSA7cD1Vbml2ZXJzaXR5IG9mIExlO2w9 SEVSTUVTNC0wOTAzMDgyMDMyMTVaLTE2MTIAAAAAHgBJAAEAAAAcAAAATEY6IFJlOiBlbmVy Z3kgc2F2aW5nIGJ1bGJzAEAATgAAj85zBKDJAR4AWgABAAAAIwAAAG93bmVyLXJzZ2JfbGZf 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esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LmUao-0000D0-3f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:00:34 +0000 Received: from smtpa1.mediabeam.com ([194.25.41.13]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LmUal-0003jw-9a for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:00:33 +0000 Received: from r300-1 ([194.25.41.40]) by smtpa1.mediabeam.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n2PExNAr027895 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:59:23 +0100 From: "Uwe Jannsen" To: Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:59:18 Message-ID: <08BC07D903190E3B12316@kabelmail.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-PRIORITY: 3 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 1.8 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,INVALID_DATE=1.76 Subject: Re: LF: DJ8WX Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=PRIORITY_NO_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) thanks, Andrey so the 113mWERP made the 1800km through rain and snow. Im surprised. GL and 73 Uwe/dj8wx/jo43sv -------- Kabel E-Mail Reply --------------- From: rn3agc@mail.ru To : rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: 25.03.2009 09:36:25 Hello Uwe, capture at 22.03z 73 Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh07.mx.aol.com (rly-mh07.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.143]) by air-mh08.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMH081-be449aaf57818e; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 15:52:23 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH074-be449aaf57818e; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 15:52:09 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LdsdR-0000Ep-99 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 20:51:41 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LdsdQ-0000Eg-St for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 20:51:40 +0000 Received: from mailout.toya.net.pl ([217.113.224.27] ident=postfix) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LdsdQ-0005Ph-6H for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 20:51:40 +0000 Received: from localhost (unknown [192.168.120.26]) by lazir.toya.net.pl (TOYAnet MailServer) with ESMTP id D0A958C274 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 21:51:38 +0100 (CET) X-TOYA-AV: AntyVir-Skaner at toya.net.pl Received: from lazir.toya.net.pl ([192.168.120.25]) by localhost (antyvir.toya.net.pl [192.168.120.26]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uyOTRY66VGdO for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 21:51:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.11.178.152] (lazir [217.113.224.3]) (Authenticated sender: unimlyn) by lazir.toya.net.pl (TOYAnet MailServer) with ESMTP id 814CA8C257 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 21:51:38 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <49AAF55A.8070106@toya.net.pl> Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 21:51:38 +0100 From: =?UTF-8?B?UGlvdHIgTcWCeW5hcnNraQ==?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000a01c99a91$a54a1180$1402a8c0@e7010> <20090301205328.1s1wth6swu0w80c4@webmail4.kuleuven.be> <20090301205958.za3harvgnsowkw8w@webmail4.kuleuven.be> In-Reply-To: <20090301205958.za3harvgnsowkw8w@webmail4.kuleuven.be> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WSPR on 600m Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) sri bad decode of di2ag: 2024 -14 2.6 0.505179 2 1C5HNX NI57 10 2034 -25 0.6 0.505094 0 DI2AG JN59 30 unfortunately , wsprnet(database) accepted it and i have automatic upload on. 73,peter,sq7mpj p.s #1 it would be a nice record - almost 9000 km on 500 kHz ( 1W erp) with "1/2" of w3dzz on a rx side..... post scriptum # 2 doeas anyone have an idea how to remove bad record from wspr database ? (record as a line not record as a record ..hi) qth: lodz, poland /jo91rs/ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me01.mx.aol.com (rly-me01.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.34]) by air-me06.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINME062-99849b147c8c8; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 10:57:33 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me01.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME014-99849b147c8c8; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 10:56:58 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LfcPT-0005jz-O4 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 15:56:27 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LfcPT-0005jq-5r for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 15:56:27 +0000 Received: from mail-fx0-f174.google.com ([209.85.220.174]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LfcPR-0001YN-O0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 15:56:27 +0000 Received: by fxm22 with SMTP id 22so501292fxm.4 for ; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 07:56:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=6JXEJZgHZ8/LAuPbl1h0X8SkpkMDbfpZ0l4x2FnKX3M=; b=AiHrJU1P2yb0a0Feh8Nla6wZxAZI0hWCcBoBZUbzJky/QmH0D4qI8gKDQjL9VA9Q6E 6altvwUm+w/2KK2WqENd74NkWpA0EKFC3uOKUJAfMw/r0uAHfG1aLBybITc+hNVIr3Eo zGGFiQyJ/xCoyMNi/UgFy9CL02JXx7oH1Of3o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=YcU/VVyRVoebvoY7v7MktA5fj/PvNz4UHoVm8ksFhJVSM6tN528KG4t1X+ANbIIC6Q ySxeKFMK/sN5qWGAk71JAuT+1Qywb1PVgYfWLaUs6VNFp3r6kIxr5K+H/qzGaU52E88R 78m4FImpJmYk5uyU1pw1rxNJL1PXuV/kkWMdM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.107.135 with SMTP id b7mr2172756fap.30.1236354979690; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 07:56:19 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <9C03FBF153AB478A9B0DBC5580CF20D2@AGB> References: <0566EF6DE20B4249A3E74859BF9BA2C6@AGB> <9C03FBF153AB478A9B0DBC5580CF20D2@AGB> Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 15:56:19 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Multi-function beacon Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5b3146179de046475532a X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m211.2 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --001636c5b3146179de046475532a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Graham - I'm not bothered about log files myself as I don't have the time to collate massses of data but if someone else feels they'd like to do it... Haven't hought about how long it will go for, I may just forget about it shoved up in the corner of the garage where, if it catches fire, all damage will be contained, so happy enough running 24/7 for now. The 5MHz monitoring system is in there as well. As for your questions on the pulsed part of the wavefom; its not in use on this transmission , I replaced it with a PSK31 message instead. The original 5MHz system used a pulse width of 500us at a PRF of 40Hz, with the idea of using an SSB reception bandwidth, so something coul dbe done with SSB Tx, but these days we'd probably go another direction with PSK and a PN sequence rather than a simple short pulse. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/3/6 Graham > Ok Andy, > > Obvious question, hi, > > How long are you thinking of running the beacon and where do you want > the report files to be sent ? > > There may be quite a few records generated in a short time, I note from > the last 'hfc' that there is quite a backlog of data from the 5 meg > operation but there is movement > to analyse the data. should prove interesting .. > > How aggressive is the pulsed section of the tx cycle,?, I know there is > some interest in using that facility for study's on 500, but as yet I have > not found the rise/fall and timing parameters. dose it need to be a pulse > or could a small frequency shift be used if time is being measured ? > > Tnx- G .. > > > > > > > --001636c5b3146179de046475532a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Graham -
I'm not bothered about log files myself as=A0 I don't have the=20= time to collate massses of data but if someone else feels they'd like to= do it...
=A0
Haven't hought about how long it will go for, I may just forget abo= ut it shoved up in the corner of the=A0garage where, if it catches fire, all= damage will be=A0contained, =A0so=A0happy enough=A0running 24/7 for now.= =A0 The 5MHz monitoring system is in there as well.
=A0
As for your questions on the pulsed part of the wavefom;=A0 its not in=20= use on this transmission , I replaced it with a PSK31 message instead.=A0= =A0 The original 5MHz system used a pulse width of 500us at a PRF of 40Hz, w= ith the idea of using an SSB reception bandwidth, so something coul dbe done= with SSB Tx, but these days we'd probably go another direction with PSK= and=A0a PN sequence rather than a simple short pulse.

Andy =A0G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com


2009/3/6 Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
Ok Andy,
=A0
Obvious question, hi,
=A0
How long are you=A0 thinking of running= the=A0 beacon and where do=A0 you=A0 want the report files to=A0 be sent ?<= /font>
=A0
There may be quite a few records genera= ted in a short time, I note from the=20= last 'hfc' that there is quite a backlog of data from the=A0 5=A0 me= g operation but there is movement
to analyse the=A0 data. should prove in= teresting .. =A0
=A0
How aggressive is the pulsed section of= the=A0 tx cycle,?, I know there is some interest in using that facility for= study's on 500, but as yet I have not=A0 found the rise/fall and timing= parameters. dose it need to=A0 be a pulse or=A0 could a small frequency shi= ft be used if time is being measured ?
=A0
Tnx- G ..
=A0
=A0
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--001636c5b3146179de046475532a-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg05.mx.aol.com (rly-dg05.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.89]) by air-dg07.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDG071-5cb49ca34572e4; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 09:40:51 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg05.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG058-5cb49ca34572e4; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 09:40:40 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LmTKT-00080h-1v for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 13:39:37 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LmTKS-00080Y-MP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 13:39:36 +0000 Received: from mail.cz.gmc.net ([77.48.211.230]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LmTKP-0002DX-Sj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 13:39:36 +0000 Received: from Lenovo (192.168.100.32) by dove.gmc.net (192.168.40.18) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.1.358.0; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 14:38:49 +0100 Message-ID: From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Petr_Mal=FD?= To: Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 14:38:37 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: TDA2003, TDA2030 for PA? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00CD_01C9AD57.620A1E00" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_00CD_01C9AD57.620A1E00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, My intention is to build a small transmitter up to some 10W for 136 and 505=20= kHz, this time not the D class, but B or AB class. I think of employing AF amplifiers such as TDA2003, TDA2030, or similar. Of=20= course, mainly 505 kHz is rather out of range so that nothing is guaranteed.= This is why I ask before experimenting. Did anybody try to use these for 136/505 kHz? Tks, 73, Petr, OK!FIG http://ok1fig.nagano.cz ------=_NextPart_000_00CD_01C9AD57.620A1E00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi all,
 
My intention is to build a small transmitte= r up to=20 some 10W for 136 and 505 kHz, this time not the D class, but B or AB=20 class.
I think of employing AF amplifiers such as=20= TDA2003,=20 TDA2030, or similar. Of course, mainly 505 kHz is rather out of range so tha= t=20 nothing is guaranteed. This is why I ask before experimenting.
Did anybody try to use these for 136/505=20 kHz?
 
Tks, 73, Petr, OK!FIG
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_00CD_01C9AD57.620A1E00-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh11.mx.aol.com (rly-mh11.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.147]) by air-mh02.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMH023-61649b1d308291; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 20:51:22 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh11.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH113-61649b1d308291; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 20:51:07 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lflg3-00055A-03 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 01:50:11 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lflg2-000551-C1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 01:50:10 +0000 Received: from vivaldi.earthlight.co.nz ([202.36.170.8]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lflg0-0007Hk-SG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 01:50:10 +0000 Received: from www-data by vivaldi.earthlight.co.nz with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lflfu-0004b2-TO; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 14:50:02 +1300 Received: from 209.106.124.202.static.snap.net.nz ([202.124.106.209]) (SquirrelMail authenticated user andrewss) by webmail.earthlight.co.nz with HTTP; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 14:50:02 +1300 (NZDT) Message-ID: <1059.202.124.106.209.1236390602.squirrel@webmail.earthlight.co.nz> Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 14:50:02 +1300 (NZDT) From: To: X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Cc: X-Mailer: SquirrelMail (version 1.2.6) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: Removal from blcksheep.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hello Net master, could you please remove my lisiing on the rsgb_lf_group@ blacksheep.org bulletin board. Have made several attemps but do not seem to get the instructions correct..! Stan Andrews Zl4MB.. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma07.mx.aol.com (rly-ma07.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.51]) by air-ma02.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMA023-8be49b6f13b3bd; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 19:01:35 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma07.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA078-8be49b6f13b3bd; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 19:01:17 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LhAwV-0001Si-NG for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 23:00:59 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LhAwV-0001SZ-Cv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 23:00:59 +0000 Received: from smtp2-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.2]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LhAwT-0002RJ-KP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 23:00:59 +0000 Received: from smtp2-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp2-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id F262D4B00D5 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 00:00:54 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp2-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF38D4B007A for ; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 00:00:51 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <49B6F122.1070303@online.fr> Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 00:00:50 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <49B622B9.9070601@online.fr> In-Reply-To: X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 184khz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) R R Joe ! 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj jcraig@mun.ca a =E9crit : > Dear LF Group, > The TX will be off starting tonight to monitor G4JNT on 503.7 kHz. > 73 > Joe VO1NA > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc03.mx.aol.com (rly-dc03.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.32]) by air-dc02.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDC024-b0e49bfbaf32b2; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 11:00:50 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc03.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC032-b0e49bfbaf32b2; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 11:00:05 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LjalV-0003KZ-6d for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 14:59:37 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LjalU-0003KQ-Ny for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 14:59:36 +0000 Received: from psmtp13.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.25]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LjalR-0000fY-Qt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 14:59:36 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp13.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KGN00EE5OB1MS@psmtp13.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 15:59:26 +0100 (MET) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 15:59:22 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: XGJ 17-03.jpg Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_u1c4zFi8iRuo4syhoaJ28Q)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_u1c4zFi8iRuo4syhoaJ28Q) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_56hzzllJCP6zoF55vijx0g)" --Boundary_(ID_56hzzllJCP6zoF55vijx0g) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Hi Warren,LF capture XGJ Henny pa3cpm 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: XGJ 17-03.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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Hi Warren,LF
capture XGJ
Henny pa3cpm
73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
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owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Don't forget one thing though.... they contain mercury, and should not be disposed of in the trash.....73...Jordan VE6ZT ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roelof Bakker" To: Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 9:27 AM Subject: Re: LF: energy saving bulbs > Hello Peter, > > I have been using these for years now and never encountered a problem. > The best way to find out though is just buy one and test it! > > 73, > Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md09.mx.aol.com (rly-md09.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.147]) by air-md01.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD011-92449c3b176c; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 11:08:55 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by 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bh=h90taPhQyBDaK8HDp6tTzVLMcLUHWdJ1+xJuqAtT1eU=; b=l9m5OBixafkcC13BgcyAX7fV6Oe5c2miQYTv5hBDVtc3ZW0GJ0NlOQ/PZZC96InHCu YZNJs6lvkPWSFcOxyCkLxdU3j/lqmwwvPVgm9C997PZiXRGowD9PFTYq9nvv3fV3vAz7 QIuD14rIwWh+zp5rCZOMCqg6VFeDu515Nv1D8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=kZtxR3fQ01w2UylD8Xs1bLbtfvsRXC+OZ0rkhjwgJ2lU4CalOBffiYKAnmZxmmwXCv thoZTsekzBys8HumrNDLikM5kVa6pT/0w6zdXqqxd9hF6ECDNCgiQvdIRPkfFmjSR3da aBb/Zr4RwwRQMvm1I1vvJIRM/qV91MJMyt/Dk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.6.79 with SMTP id 15mr4281111qay.208.1237561644168; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 08:07:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 10:07:24 -0500 Message-ID: <57a24ca70903200807ifa605cdn507cbf25d2e003dc@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: Re: LF: xgj Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR, UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m231.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Victor, Excellent capture, thanks! -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 12:36 AM, wrote: > Hi Warren,lf > > best capture at 1:30z > > 73 > > Victor -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf02.mx.aol.com (rly-mf02.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.172]) by air-mf01.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMF012-94349b62673264; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 04:36:06 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf02.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF021-94349b62673264; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 04:36:04 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LgxRD-00012i-OR for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 08:35:47 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LgxRD-00012Z-Aj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 08:35:47 +0000 Received: from thsmsgxrt11p.thalesgroup.com ([192.54.144.134]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LgxRC-0005WC-MJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 08:35:47 +0000 Received: from thsmsgirt22p.corp.thales (unknown [10.33.231.6]) by thsmsgxrt11p.thalesgroup.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A185048897D for ; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 09:35:39 +0100 (CET) Received: from thsmsgiav11p.corp.thales (10.33.231.31) by thsmsgirt22p.corp.thales (8.5.103) id 4991947D002FA1BC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 09:35:39 +0100 Received: from (unknown [10.33.231.1]) by thsmsgiav11p.corp.thales with smtp id 30c4_3023_755b5ee8_0d55_11de_861e_001143d32df6; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 10:25:56 +0100 Received: from NODALNET.clb.tcfr.thales (unknown [10.33.8.19]) by thsmsgirt11p.corp.thales (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ACB9598049 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 09:35:39 +0100 (CET) Received: by nodalnet.clb.tcfr.thales with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 09:35:39 +0100 Message-ID: From: Jean-Louis.RAULT@fr.thalesgroup.com To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 09:35:38 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: RE: Re: energy saving bulbs Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 My two cents: Do NOT use the 16 watts version of the Philips SL E Pro model: these bulbs generate a LOT of noise (50 Hz comb broadband noise) at least on 137 kHz ... 73 de Jean-Louis From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md04.mx.aol.com (rly-md04.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.142]) by air-md09.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id 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ttsmtp.cpwnetworks.com with SMTP; 26 Mar 2009 18:43:05 +0000 Message-ID: <009601c9ae42$b3638c50$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <4A6AE023E8F54CDF9ABFC1DB78F176BA@DR2> <49CB60CE.7050807@charter.net> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 18:43:05 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WSPR tonight Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 100 km inland is insignificent and should make virtually no difference. Consult AA1A about how to improve your antenna system and receiving techniques. He can hear me every time I touch the KEY G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Andrews" To: Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 11:02 AM Subject: Re: LF: WSPR tonight > Dave Riley seems to have some advantage by being right at the coast. > Here at 100 km inland (due west), EU copy on 600M has been more > difficult. I started a WSPR session around 0130 last night, and got only > the following for the whole night: > > 090326 0436 3 -28 0.7 0.503881 M0BMU IO91 33 > 090326 0450 1 -29 0.8 0.503881 7DJ/4Q3ASX S9 > > The previous evening, I had nothing at all on G0BND between 2300 and > 0230, so things are looking up! > > John Andrews, W1TAG > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.28/2022 - Release Date: 03/25/09 07:16:00 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db03.mx.aol.com (rly-db03.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.78]) by air-db08.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDB084-ab349be5cb724; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 10:06:00 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db03.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB031-ab349be5cb724; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 10:05:45 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LjDR8-0004LL-Hv for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 14:05:02 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LjDR8-0004LC-3U for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 14:05:02 +0000 Received: from qw-out-1920.google.com ([74.125.92.149]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LjDR6-00026R-5q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 14:05:02 +0000 Received: by qw-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 4so1845768qwk.16 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 07:04:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=uzyx5EYE3PBYyzH0AZcxFpfswmGJok6QxbIposSsBsY=; b=K8j/20XJZ5Rgq8sjLdFqVSLdSC5K6/yIXi+DrbcoItYPkYKSudEKo0au/li0nuhitS qUqIFZgyd0kSlugivRhoU/gBQbyDwB+B2q+VD0HCmXaTS02yJcfpFf4+MQ5kdVsVrSy7 mb1dqd0wWvphUJK+DOaSQjdMHU5VjTVX1cFGM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=fmvoTzFpSawcxPX/h6fEUmSnH0bAgDg/HsnDHP2HtCnpSqNWCNpxEhxb+UVnDZMGFs XRKoEFkp7gNzLZj6yi6E7e2LeWgJkLIpamo0VHk/VcXIBW8r43FR0DpthXEqItMZL/EM nyh+catUZk5Ky2Ezn1r2xSteVFlicp3sGtz7w= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.45.204 with SMTP id g12mr5720526qaf.168.1237212298362; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 07:04:58 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <200903151858.47737.ve8rt@xplornet.com> References: <200903141634.37933.ve8rt@xplornet.com> <8bf118410903151024k69053f8cs345c4673ad93deec@mail.gmail.com> <200903151858.47737.ve8rt@xplornet.com> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 10:04:58 -0400 Message-ID: <57a24ca70903160704s1c191506u94d531226b6f9e9a@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Getting started, maybe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d248.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Ron, Not to throw a wet blanket over your ambitions, but it will be very challenging (to put it mildly) for you to hear 500kHz amateur activity. The nearest active stations are thousands of miles away and you are under the auroral oval which really does a good job absorbing MF/HF signals. Rudy in Oregon was the closest signal and that was over 2000kM away! You never know, you might pick up one of the big guns under ideal conditions but it's always good to have realistic expectations. - 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 8:58 PM, Ron Thompson wrote: > Hi Graham, > > =A0 =A0my actual location is at postal code X1A 2H5 > > =A0 =A0I'm in the company crew house at the float base. =A0In the Google m= ap for > the postal code, at the highest available satellite magnification, you sho= uld > see floatplanes along the parking lot and then in a cove on the upper side= of > the parking lot is a yellow Cessna floatplane. =A0The house just to the le= ft of > the floatplane is where I live. =A0Unfortunately, as the house is in the > floatbase parking lot, there isn't any antenna space around it. =A0What I=20= do > have is two 15 metre towers spaced about 48 metres apart that I use for my= HF > antenna (it used to have a company commercial HF antenna before). =A0Any L= F/MF > antenna must be compact and mountable either to the house or one of the > towers. =A0Power lines are between the house and cove, which may be a nois= e > source. > > =A0 =A0 =A0Ron > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da04.mx.aol.com (rly-da04.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.78]) by air-da07.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA072-a6249c524b02a2; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 13:32:54 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da04.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA042-a6249c524b02a2; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 13:32:33 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ll53c-0006uy-Vm for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 17:32:28 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ll53c-0006ug-4K for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 17:32:28 +0000 Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com ([209.85.146.183]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ll53a-0004Jj-Cv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 17:32:28 +0000 Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id l24so934890waf.4 for ; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 10:32:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=MIE+qO9KzsQLR5iWjarZ/0l+FEwteM2lO0q5QH8TD8Q=; b=BgeHvYaD/mc8HtQpTo904j6AHrVaG3rpR9PjHSrBB+Vse8wmjeX8BslhpuS77wSiuG 2aF/J/AqDY8p+LmOg8GP012Ou87AF84h+iuDgXTMe9rq/xB27n/gOiJ1800h7y4BhOu2 6DDE2+0svEFcIGTuikLPbv/ZII8L0K7AcyiQU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=QbRcEuMWHQaaknlB3FJe9zGG5iiN1rZTXKs+FcqgK1vhw1a8qD0Qi9acAt6o5egDRU 6IqVXERuUO3b7HW5qgPL1RGTQTI08Y0NpwV8i0Ne6vGoRM6w037SFKfXZHy62Bg4kPdn uZmcuDo452kDLiCUw2rpsny6+mmVESXrBxx5A= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.114.183.1 with SMTP id g1mr2889914waf.140.1237656744301; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 10:32:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <5931f8db0903200013t5985259dr1483addef93a27c0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 17:32:24 +0000 Message-ID: <5931f8db0903211032l119c192cvaa2a46174026b7@mail.gmail.com> From: Harry Woodhouse To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Subject: Re: LF: RE: 137 KHz reports please Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00163646ca829915470465a46a00 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_MESSAGE,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m211.1 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --00163646ca829915470465a46a00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Victor, Many thanks - nice to see my own signal! Lots of mains interference here on receive. Best 73s, Harry On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 11:39 AM, wrote: > Congrats Harry, > > nice signal in Utrecht > > 73 > > Victor > PA3FNY > JO22NC > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > *Van:* owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto: > owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]*Namens *Harry Woodhouse > *Verzonden:* vrijdag 20 maart 2009 8:14 > *Aan:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > *Onderwerp:* LF: 137 KHz reports please > > If I manage to get my temporary mast up in the wind, I hope to transmit CQ > tomorrow, Saturday 21st March with QRSS3 on 137.68KHz. > > --00163646ca829915470465a46a00 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Victor,
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Many thanks - nice t= o see my own signal! Lots of mains interference here on receive.=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0 Best 73s,=A0 Harry

On Sat, Mar 21,=20= 2009 at 11:39 AM, <victor13@online.nl> wrote:
Congrats Harry,=
= =A0
nice=20 signal in Utrecht
= =A0
73
= =A0
Victor
PA3FNY
JO22NC
-----Oors= pronkelijk bericht-----
Van:=20 ow= ner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens Harry=20 Woodhouse
Verzonden: vrijdag 20 maart 2009 8:14
Aan:=20 rsgb_lf_= group@blacksheep.org
Onderwerp: LF: 137 KHz reports=20 please

If I manage to get my temporary mast up in the=20 wind, I hope to transmit CQ tomorrow, Saturday 21st March with QRSS3 on=20 137.68KHz.


--00163646ca829915470465a46a00-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me02.mx.aol.com (rly-me02.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.35]) by air-me02.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME022-99e49ccf08e135; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 11:28:32 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me02.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME022-99e49ccf08e135; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 11:28:17 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LnDy1-00041d-IW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 15:27:33 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LnDy1-00041U-5b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 15:27:33 +0000 Received: from cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.43]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LnDy0-0008LR-5R for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 15:27:33 +0000 Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (smtpshost01.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.74]) by cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEB007B805E for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 16:27:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB96331E705 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 16:27:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.242.4]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id C094231E704 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 16:27:19 +0100 (CET) Received: by webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 939AA5BD2; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 16:27:20 +0100 (CET) Received: from 48.35-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (48.35-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [81.241.35.48]) by webmail4.kuleuven.be (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 16:27:20 +0100 Message-ID: <20090327162720.6et0xg2farr40g0c@webmail4.kuleuven.be> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 16:27:20 +0100 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <8bf118410903270647t5ebb0cedi82b96e2ea73075bd@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8bf118410903270647t5ebb0cedi82b96e2ea73075bd@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 81.241.35.48 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Lazy Man's CW made it to Venus and back Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Dave, If I got it right their ran 5kW into a 20m dish at 2.4GHz. The dish gain should be about 50dBd. 50dB =3D 100000 times power gain, thus ERP =3D +/- 500MW The distance to Venus (today) is 0.281 AU =3D 42 milion km =3D 26.1 milion m= iles Total distance is 82 milion km / 52.2 milion miles, what makes it +/- =20 0.1 miles per Watt. That value is not spectacular at all, but take into account that Venus =20 is a pretty bad reflector and the signal hasto go twice trough the =20 atmoshpere and ionospere. 73, Rik ON7YD Quoting Dave Pick : > How many miles per Watt is that?!! > > Dave 'YXM > > 2009/3/26 > >> Greetings everyone, >> >> Not really LF, but QRSS... >> >> A group of radio amateurs from AMSAT-DL has successfully transmitted a >> (very short) message in QRSS, consisting of the two letters "HI" (im >> memoriam of old OSCARS) to Venus on 2.4 GHz, and received the reflection. >> Each TX/RX over lasted for about 5 minutes (the travelling time). The >> transmitter was a 5 kW magnetron disciplined to a narrow-band transmitter= . >> Details on the AMSAT-DL website. The German HR TV will send a documentati= on >> tonight at 19:30 (local). The EVE (Earth-Venus-Earth) details follow >> tomorrow on Hessischer Rundfunk. >> >> 73, >> Wolf DL4YHF >> (from the IUZ in Bochum) >> >> >> >> >> >> #adBox3 {display:none;} >> >> >> > > > -- > G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK > Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (rly-ma08.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.52]) by air-ma06.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMA063-8c349ba1c11152; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 04:40:57 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA085-8c349ba1c11152; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 04:40:51 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Li2vd-0000cT-E6 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 08:39:41 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Li2vd-0000cK-3E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 08:39:41 +0000 Received: from pne-smtpout2-sn2.hy.skanova.net ([81.228.8.164]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Li2vb-00012b-8D for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 08:39:41 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (213.64.47.29) by pne-smtpout2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (7.3.129) (authenticated as u33233109) id 4873CA9503BBB80D for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 09:39:33 +0100 Message-ID: <49BA1BC6.6040507@telia.com> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 09:39:34 +0100 From: "Johan H. Bodin" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: About Loran Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Peter DF3LP found a *very* interesting 306 page doctoral thesis about LORAN-C here: http://www.pelgrum.org/radionavigation/ 73 Johan SM6LKM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md03.mx.aol.com (rly-md03.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.141]) by air-md10.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMD103-8f849afc8e425c; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 07:43:27 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md03.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD038-8f849afc8e425c; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 07:43:19 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LfCtv-0002jt-Ox for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 12:42:11 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LfCtv-0002jk-2v for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 12:42:11 +0000 Received: from qmta01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.16]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LfCtt-0006dc-IU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 12:42:10 +0000 Received: from OMTA08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.12]) by QMTA01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id PPfp1b0080Fqzac51Qi3Lb; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 12:42:03 +0000 Received: from JAYDELL ([65.96.107.144]) by OMTA08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id PQjH1b00536xPMd3UQjH5z; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 12:43:19 +0000 Message-ID: <000e01c99d8f$c82baf00$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> From: To: References: <8FA0F64CAE294E9681BFE4D22D1EB2D4@ns94d01ae4d850> Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 07:42:00 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: VO1NA in CT Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01C99D65.DE6C0A50" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C99D65.DE6C0A50 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Joe Several good partial sequences catured overnight. Appears ID is longer than the QSB cycle. 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Hi lf,
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<57a24ca70903180030s3d40c958l915bc13ec38218c6@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 137.780 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d286.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Willem, Thank you, interesting propagation with a strong peak! --=20 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 1:55 AM, Willem De Roode wrote: > =A0Hi Warren > Xgj 73s Willem pa3ego > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df10.mx.aol.com (rly-df10.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.23]) by air-df06.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDF063-57e49c97c1e181; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 20:34:57 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df10.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF101-57e49c97c1e181; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 20:34:41 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LmH4U-0004BU-Me for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 00:34:18 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LmH4U-0004BL-3g for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 00:34:18 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.151] helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LmH4S-0007IX-HK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 00:34:18 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3532.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 132601C00085 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 01:34:11 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.7.94]) by mwinf3532.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 8F4A81C00082 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 01:34:10 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20090325003410587.8F4A81C00082@mwinf3532.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: References: <864ED1778706409D9A640FF89C5F22C7@Silver> <35BC7A5BC84143BB916FEAA9FA0B67CF@AGB> <6F3FEF77C5114A42BB288377EFF89835@2a2d7ed321c6425> In-Reply-To: <6F3FEF77C5114A42BB288377EFF89835@2a2d7ed321c6425> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 00:34:09 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8064.206 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8064.206 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: Re: LF: AW: WSPR G0NBD 502.4 DIAL NOW TILL LATER POSS OVER NIGHT Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01CA_01C9ACE1.69C83F80" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE,LINES_OF_YELLING, LINES_OF_YELLING_2,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME,UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_01CA_01C9ACE1.69C83F80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tnx Gerhard=20 Same old problem with swr trip on pa ..wind and rain are changing the tune= ... causing pa to trip .. will run over night with reduced power ~ 100 watts feed=20 tnx- G .. From: Beckmann, Gerhard=20 Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 11:47 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: LF: AW: WSPR G0NBD 502.4 DIAL NOW TILL LATER POSS OVER NIGHT=20 =20 Hello Graham, =20 nice signal here in JN59LN =20 2338 -17 1.8 0.503980 -1 G0NBD IO83 13 =20 Vy 73 de Gerhard / DK6NI =20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =20 =20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blackshe= ep.org] Im Auftrag von Graham Gesendet: Dienstag, 24. M=E4rz 2009 23:35 An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Betreff: LF: WSPR G0NBD 502.4 DIAL NOW TILL LATER POSS OVER NIGHT=20 =20 Making hay while the sun (doesn't shine)=20 =20 G0NBD 502.4 DIAL NOW TILL LATER POSS OVER NIGHT=20 =20 Tnx- G .. =20 =20 =20 =20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.5.283 / Virus Database: 270.11.27/2021 - Release Date: 03/24/09 1= 6:00:00 ------=_NextPart_000_01CA_01C9ACE1.69C83F80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Tnx  Gerhard
 
Same old problem with  swr trip on pa=20= ..wind=20 and  rain are changing the tune ... causing pa to  trip=20 ..
will run over night  with  reduce= d power=20 ~ 100 watts feed
 
tnx- G ..
 

Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 11:47 PM
Subject: LF: AW: WSPR G0NBD 502.4 DIAL NOW TILL LATER POSS OVER=20 NIGHT

 

Hello=20 Graham,

 

nice sign= al=20 here in JN59LN

&n= bsp;

2338=20  -17  1.8   0.503980 -1 G0NBD IO83=20 13

&n= bsp;

Vy 73 de=20 Gerhard  /  DK6NI

&n= bsp;

=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

&n= bsp;

 

Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von = Graham
Gesendet: Di= enstag, 24. M=E4rz 2009=20 23:35
An: rsgb_lf_gro= up@blacksheep.org
Betreff: LF: WSPR G0NBD 502.4 DIAL NOW TILL=20 LATER POSS OVER NIGHT

 

Making =20 hay while the  sun (doesn't shine)

 

G0NBD=20 502.4 DIAL NOW TILL LATER POSS OVER NIGHT=20

 

Tnx-=20 G ..

 

 

 

 =


No virus found in this incoming message.
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------=_NextPart_000_01CA_01C9ACE1.69C83F80-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf04.mx.aol.com (rly-mf04.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.174]) by air-mf06.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMF062-95749c2bcdb14b; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 17:45:03 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf04.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF045-95749c2bcdb14b; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 17:45:01 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LkQ2M-00024n-81 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 21:44:26 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LkQ2L-00024e-TT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 21:44:25 +0000 Received: from smtp6-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.6]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LkQ2I-0001gH-Vm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 21:44:25 +0000 Received: from smtp6-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp6-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28BADE0807A for ; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 22:44:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp6-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE6F1E080E5 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 22:44:16 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <49C2BCB0.4010607@online.fr> Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 22:44:16 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <650F5744AD854ABD8276029657B4AB17@ns94d01ae4d850> In-Reply-To: <650F5744AD854ABD8276029657B4AB17@ns94d01ae4d850> X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: F6AFJ 19-03.jpg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Henny , TNX for capture , my call are F1AFJ not F6AFJ !!!! hi hi 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj henny van elst a =E9crit : > Hi Jean-Pierre and All, > strong signal 137khz > Henny pa3cpm > best 73s > Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzond= en: > F6AFJ 19-03.jpg > > Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen=20= het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controlee= r de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen w= orden afgehandeld. > > =20 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (rly-dd01.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.148]) by air-dd06.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDD062-b5849bf2e1c6b; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 00:59:11 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD012-b5849bf2e1c6b; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 00:59:10 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LjRNf-0000Ty-LW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 04:58:23 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LjRNf-0000Tp-38 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 04:58:23 +0000 Received: from smtprelay0009.hostedemail.com ([216.40.44.9] helo=smtprelay.hostedemail.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LjRNd-00082w-Dc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 04:58:23 +0000 Received: from filter.hostedemail.com (ff-bigip1 [10.5.19.254]) by smtprelay03.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with SMTP id B99553300C1 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 04:58:08 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Summary: 2,0,0,1a9e25860e4151d8,49f40f4b3f783a2d,ve8rt@xplornet.com,rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org,RULES_HIT:355:379:408:599:601:800:945:946:960:973:988:989:1260:1261:1277:1311:1312:1313:1314:1345:1359:1437:1513:1515:1516:1518:1519:1521:1534:1542:1593:1594:1595:1596:1711:1730:1747:1766:1792:2393:2551:2553:2559:2562:2693:2828:2916:3027:3294:3355:3622:3636:3865:3866:3867:3868:3869:3870:3871:3872:3873:3874:3876:3877:4250:4605:4649:5007:6114:6119:6997:7652:7754:7903:7904:7974:8501:9040,0,RBL:none,CacheIP:none,Bayesian:0.5,0.5,0.5,Netcheck:none,DomainCache:0,MSF:not bulk,SPF:fu,MSBL:none,DNSBL:none Received: from [192.168.1.103] (xplr-ts-v10-208-114-191-189.barrettxplore.com [208.114.191.189]) (Authenticated sender: ron.t@xplornet.com) by omf02.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 04:58:04 +0000 (UTC) From: Ron Thompson To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 22:57:52 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.4 References: <200903141634.37933.ve8rt@xplornet.com> <200903151858.47737.ve8rt@xplornet.com> <57a24ca70903160704s1c191506u94d531226b6f9e9a@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <57a24ca70903160704s1c191506u94d531226b6f9e9a@mail.gmail.com> Organization: ARS VE8RT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200903162257.53821.ve8rt@xplornet.com> X-session-marker: 726F6E2E744078706C6F726E65742E636F6D X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Getting started, maybe Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Warrren, and thanks to both Daves, Grahm and Mike. I've checked out the websites=20 suggested and may go ahead with a basic receiving set up. Non-directional=20 beacons on the MF band are still widely used here for enroute air navigation= =20 and would give me an idea of what propagation on the 600 metre band may be=20 like. What is the mode of propagation on 600 metres, primarily ground wave? Ho= w=20 much influence does space weather have on the MF band, does the band black=20 out like the HF bands? =20 another question, would there be any advantage to going lower, to the=20 137KHz band? Thanks, Ron On Monday 16 March 2009 08:04, Warren Ziegler wrote: > Ron, > > Not to throw a wet blanket over your ambitions, but it will be > very challenging (to put it mildly) for you to hear 500kHz amateur > activity. > The nearest active stations are thousands of miles away and you are > under the auroral oval which really does a good job absorbing MF/HF > signals. > Rudy in Oregon was the closest signal and that was over 2000kM away! > > You never know, you might pick up one of the big guns under ideal > conditions but it's always good to have realistic expectations. > - > 73 Warren K2ORS > WD2XGJ > WD2XSH/23 > WE2XEB/2 > WE2XGR/1 > > On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 8:58 PM, Ron Thompson wrote: > > Hi Graham, > > > > =A0 =A0my actual location is at postal code X1A 2H5 > > > > =A0 =A0I'm in the company crew house at the float base. =A0In the Google= map > > for the postal code, at the highest available satellite magnification, > > you should see floatplanes along the parking lot and then in a cove on > > the upper side of the parking lot is a yellow Cessna floatplane. =A0The > > house just to the left of the floatplane is where I live. =A0Unfortunate= ly, > > as the house is in the floatbase parking lot, there isn't any antenna > > space around it. =A0What I do have is two 15 metre towers spaced about 4= 8 > > metres apart that I use for my HF antenna (it used to have a company > > commercial HF antenna before). =A0Any LF/MF antenna must be compact and > > mountable either to the house or one of the towers. =A0Power lines are > > between the house and cove, which may be a noise source. > > > > =A0 =A0 =A0Ron --=20 Ron Thompson, VE8RT Yellowknife, NT, Canada 62 28.060 N 114 20.648 W Grid Square DP22tl "Who are are these that fly as a cloud, and as doves to their window?" Is 60= :8 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db06.mx.aol.com (rly-db06.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.81]) by air-db05.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDB052-ad249b05186226; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 17:26:26 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db06.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB068-ad249b05186226; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 17:26:15 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LfM0d-0002MI-Hq for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 22:25:43 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LfM0d-0002M9-0w for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 22:25:43 +0000 Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.44]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LfM0c-00048i-6F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 22:25:42 +0000 Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (smtpshost02.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.75]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D7C051C002 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 23:25:34 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 680FDF3863 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 23:25:34 +0100 (CET) Received: from webmail1.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (webmail1.cc.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.242.3]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D861F3862 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 23:25:34 +0100 (CET) Received: by webmail1.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 423D92C70; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 23:25:35 +0100 (CET) Received: from 250.43-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (250.43-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [81.241.43.250]) by webmail3.kuleuven.be (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 23:25:35 +0100 Message-ID: <20090305232535.w824u5fnf0isckok@webmail3.kuleuven.be> Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 23:25:35 +0100 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 81.241.43.250 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: weak signal on 502kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) I heard some replies to my CQ calls on 502kHz (5 March 22:00 - 22:20 UTC) but the signal was to weak to copy (also due to high QRN). Who called ? 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df08.mx.aol.com (rly-df08.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.21]) by air-df04.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDF043-56f49ca7275248; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 14:05:58 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df08.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF086-56f49ca7275248; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 14:05:43 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LmXTX-0001PE-LT for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 18:05:15 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LmXTX-0001P5-7s for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 18:05:15 +0000 Received: from smtp27.orange.fr ([80.12.242.96]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LmXTT-00026I-2P for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 18:05:15 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2721.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 6BDE11C000A0 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 19:05:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from JR (Mix-Dijon-106-3-228.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.248.130.228]) by mwinf2721.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 7A0431C00085 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 19:05:00 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20090325180500499.7A0431C00085@mwinf2721.orange.fr Message-ID: <200903251904390893.465D158C@smtp.wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <008c01c9ad63$4e9a9190$6401a8c0@asus> References: <86B4F549F8F247DDA470143B3BE77364@Hugh> <008c01c9ad63$4e9a9190$6401a8c0@asus> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (P) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 19:04:39 +0100 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: RE: Re: TDA2003, TDA2030 for PA? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 TDA2003 used for Heyphone on 87kHz. 73 John *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 25/03/2009 at 16:03 Gary - G4WGT wrote: >Hi Petr, > >I have tested a TDA2030 for a 500KHz driver & is OK for 136KHz as other >authors have stated. > >It does fall off very rapidly from 200KHz & higher & is of no use at >500KHz. > >73 > >Gary - G4WGT. > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Hugh_m0wye >Sent: 25 March 2009 15:01 >To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >Subject: LF: Re: TDA2003, TDA2030 for PA? > >I successfully made a TDA2030 amplifier which i used for all my intial=20 >experimenting on 137kHz >Photo http://www.m0wye.radiouk.com/lfamp.jpg >The data sheet for this IC claims a bandwidth of 140kHz so it won't work >on=20 >500kHz. >I think I got about 6Watts out. Not all the audio ICs have as much >bandwidth > >as this. >You need a matching circuit on the output to convert the low impedance of=20 >the amp to 50 ohms - or whatever your antenna system uses. >73 >Hugh M0WYE > > > > >----- Original Message -----=20 >From: "Petr Mal=FD" >To: >Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 1:38 PM >Subject: LF: TDA2003, TDA2030 for PA? > > >Hi all, > >My intention is to build a small transmitter up to some 10W for 136 and >505=20 >kHz, this time not the D class, but B or AB class. >I think of employing AF amplifiers such as TDA2003, TDA2030, or similar. >Of=20 >course, mainly 505 kHz is rather out of range so that nothing is >guaranteed. > >This is why I ask before experimenting. >Did anybody try to use these for 136/505 kHz? > >Tks, 73, Petr, OK!FIG >http://ok1fig.nagano.cz From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (rly-dd04.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.151]) by air-dd06.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDD062-b7049beb5581c6; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 16:24:21 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD042-b7049beb5581c6; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 16:23:54 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LjJLU-0005yT-Jw for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 20:23:36 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LjJLU-0005yK-7Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 20:23:36 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-1-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.52]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LjJLS-0001qd-CI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 20:23:36 +0000 X-Trace: 168374849/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.59.96/None/g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.59.96 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Microsoft Office Outlook 11Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AjYJAItRvklYajtg/2dsb2JhbACCJypTRIU5fYNcx1cHg3gG X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,374,1233532800"; d="scan'208,217";a="168374849" Received: from 88-106-59-96.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.59.96]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 16 Mar 2009 20:22:23 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF -RSGB LF Group" Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 20:22:23 -0000 Message-ID: <003a01c9a674$ea96fa70$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AcmmdOoaxQSPPKQlR+u9PNvljGqzgg== X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Beacon chart Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003B_01C9A674.EA96FA70" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01C9A674.EA96FA70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Graham & LF, I have upgraded the Grabber 3 page to show all the correct details with links to my normal home page & the other 2 grabbers. I trust Graham will be "A Happy Bunny" now. 73, Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01C9A674.EA96FA70 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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Hi Jean-Pierre and All,
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    Henny pa3cpm
best 73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
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21 Mar 2009 00:08:05 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lkokv-0002zs-2o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 00:08:05 +0000 Received: from [193.252.22.191] (helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lkokt-0005sm-9g for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 00:08:05 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3607.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id C1E427000084 for ; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 01:07:55 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.25.24]) by mwinf3607.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 71F237000081 for ; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 01:07:55 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20090321000755466.71F237000081@mwinf3607.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: References: <007501c9a883$81d23930$6401a8c0@asus> <635EBA8E954C46899275118E6892F9F3@AGB> In-Reply-To: <635EBA8E954C46899275118E6892F9F3@AGB> Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 00:07:54 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8064.206 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8064.206 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: 503.7 Beacon - Green slot- G0NBD - running now Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_006D_01C9A9B9.1531F810" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_006D_01C9A9B9.1531F810 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Expect run till 0115 , last ping 0115 + 6=20 tnx - G .. From: Graham=20 Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 3:43 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: LF: 503.7 Beacon - Green slot- G0NBD - running now 1345 hrs >=20 Hi All=20 Running at 25 watts (to ae) 5 second pulse in -5 min Green time slot ,=20= from about 1345 hrs to day Will increase power round 2200 hrs to 150 watt and run till past midnight ,= =20 (pa may trip in which case sig will be -14 dB lower .. till reset ) last beep 0100 Hrs may be 0115 ! Tnx - G ..=20 G0NBD IO83LK ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.21/2014 - Release Date: 03/20/09 0= 6:59:00 ------=_NextPart_000_006D_01C9A9B9.1531F810 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Expect run till  0115  , last pin= g =20 0115 + 6
 
tnx - G ..

From: Graham
Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 3:43 PM
Subject: LF: 503.7 Beacon - Green slot- G0NBD - running now 1345= hrs=20 >

Hi All
 
Running at 25 watts (to ae)  &nbs= p; 5=20 second pulse in  -5 min  Green time slot , from about 1345  h= rs=20 to day
 
Will increase power round 2200 hrs to=20= 150 watt=20 and run till  past midnight ,
 
(pa may trip in which case sig will be -14=20= dB lower=20 .. till reset )
 
last beep   0100 Hrs may be 0115 !
 
Tnx - G ..
 
G0NBD
IO83LK


No virus found in this incoming message.
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------=_NextPart_000_006D_01C9A9B9.1531F810-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de07.mx.aol.com (rly-de07.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.143]) by air-de02.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDE021-4ed49af1d87108; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 19:32:13 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de07.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE076-4ed49af1d87108; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 19:32:08 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lf1V6-0003ZI-SL for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 00:31:48 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lf1V6-0003Z9-Id for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 00:31:48 +0000 Received: from simone.ucs.mun.ca ([134.153.232.77]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lf1V5-0001GP-Jc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 00:31:48 +0000 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.232.153]) by simone.ucs.mun.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n250Vd35014712 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 21:01:39 -0330 Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 21:01:39 -0330 (NST) From: jcraig@mun.ca X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: blacksheep In-Reply-To: <8FA0F64CAE294E9681BFE4D22D1EB2D4@ns94d01ae4d850> Message-ID: References: <8FA0F64CAE294E9681BFE4D22D1EB2D4@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: QRV Again on 1600m Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Dear LF Group, The antenna wire is up again. 184.5093 kHz 10 watts 0.5 amps to 100m wire at 10m height. QRSS75 24/7 Reports most welcomed! 73 & GL Joe VO1NA From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma01.mx.aol.com (rly-ma01.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.44]) by air-ma03.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMA033-88849b1785d355; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 14:24:32 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma01.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA012-88849b1785d355; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 14:24:15 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lffdk-0008Oh-S2 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 19:23:24 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lffdk-0008OY-HM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 19:23:24 +0000 Received: from fwx.uvtc.net ([195.22.25.2] helo=uvtcmail.se) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lffdj-0001GV-N7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 19:23:24 +0000 Received: from radiorummet ([87.227.51.55]) by uvtcmail.se with MailEnable ESMTP; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 19:23:16 +0000 Message-ID: From: "Gus" To: Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 20:23:14 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 X-ME-Bayesian: 0.009904 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_FONT_BIG=0.256,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: LF: WSPR Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0015_01C99E99.60CF19E0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_FONT_BIG, HTML_MESSAGE,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C99E99.60CF19E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi LF, I will run WSPR beacon tonight,start 19:30 Z QRG 504,5 kHz (dial 503 kHz). P= ower 1 W erp. 73 de Gus SM6BHZ ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C99E99.60CF19E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi LF,
 
I will run WSPR beacon tonight,start 19:30 Z= QRG=20 504,5 kHz (dial 503 kHz). Power 1 W erp.
 
73 de Gus=20 SM6BHZ
------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C99E99.60CF19E0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc09.mx.aol.com (rly-dc09.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.38]) by air-dc08.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDC084-b4449b79c6c36b; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 07:11:59 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc09.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC098-b4449b79c6c36b; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 07:11:43 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LhMKg-0007bo-J0 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 11:10:42 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LhMKg-0007bf-53 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 11:10:42 +0000 Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.198.243]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LhMKe-0001kv-FF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 11:10:42 +0000 Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b17so2849100rvf.4 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 04:10:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=YykzjcCw6OrkW0FJhzXTwX6tN4tSIrECPTjDyVODpC0=; b=Mx9EpSPWtVW6KU+EnAYyphhU5RblFLjW0M0Kv2T2daURRNSonyQ3fG1PGaId8Zp2k2 wQ4j4T9ZezvCmINhYtCdwPoOjEzWZbVROPFDePsBp9WztDUOsWLvNdAm+a20cAPdsuh3 hxApSs7sRMJFRVO3mcSAwtZrx9Vh6phfY9k3M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=n4DcW9Xi02yK+hOEjEoZE5wxJ3pPeiSyrtDyKs6u3UGIfCrxKNhOxsAaowlXkTE3Vc zn7379O/ovlBqYboY2t8aJpuJM+8S5/a/nYepzCUAl89CEi/mHbq0MQdlg3wHF7AnCV/ KQeaHcBWr9eiXBDupjqaVj/mQrbtUCirrpXpc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.114.200.2 with SMTP id x2mr1329058waf.187.1236769838166; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 04:10:38 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 11:10:38 +0000 Message-ID: <5931f8db0903110410h410cd7c3k4fd09b74b8ae0ad5@mail.gmail.com> From: Harry Woodhouse To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_00_10=0.642,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 137KHz reports please Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636458000df73cc0464d5eab3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m273.1 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --001636458000df73cc0464d5eab3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I hope to transmit QRSS3 on 137.68 KHz on Saturday mornings March 21 & 28. Depends on weather here in Cornwall - I live on the coast and have to erect a temporary mast. Using Decca Tx from Isles of Scilly running 825 watts input to a Marconi T 230 feet long 30 feet up. Lazy Loop for Rx. Started on 72 KHz in 1998, reached well into Devon, but nobody there so no contacts! On 136 have only had QSOs with G3YXM, F6BWO, G3XDV & G3WCB. I am 79 and struggling! Would be delighted to make more contacts, but please be patient with me, I keep doing stupid things! Regards, Harry G3MFW --001636458000df73cc0464d5eab3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I hope to transmit QRSS3 on 137.68 KHz on Saturday mornings March 21 & 2= 8. Depends on weather here in Cornwall - I live on the coast and have to ere= ct a temporary mast. Using Decca Tx from Isles of Scilly running 825 watts i= nput to a Marconi T 230 feet long 30 feet up. Lazy Loop for Rx. Started on 7= 2 KHz in 1998, reached well into Devon, but nobody there so no contacts! On=20= 136 have only had QSOs with G3YXM, F6BWO, G3XDV & G3WCB. I am 79 and str= uggling! Would be delighted to make more contacts, but please be patient wit= h me, I keep doing stupid things!
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charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d291.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Thank you Markus, I saw the signal last night on your 'grabber --=20 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 3:12 PM, Markus Vester wrote: > Warren,=A0you were unusually strong here as well last midnight. 73 de Mark= us, > DF6NM > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (rly-dd02.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.149]) by air-dd05.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD054-b6249cd5e003c; 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boundary="-----------------------------1238195540" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 -------------------------------1238195540 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 Hello Marco nice reception also here of RU6LA. =20 =20 F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP RX : Icom IC7400 Ant: Wellbrook LFL 1010 _http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/_ (http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/)=20 =20 =20 Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 27/03/2009 23:33:08 Paris, Madrid, =20 marco.scholz@citi.com a =E9crit : Hello, I copy RU6LA on 137.700KHz calling Cq in QRSS3! Vy73 Marco DD7PC -------------------------------1238195540 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Marco nice reception also here of RU6LA.
 
 
F4DTL=20 Nicolas JN18FP

RX : Icom IC7400
Ant: Wellbrook LFL 1010

http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.ne= t/
 
 
Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 27/03/2009 23:33:08 Paris, Madrid,=20 marco.scholz@citi.com a =E9crit :
Hello,
I copy RU6LA on 137.700KHz calling Cq in=20 QRSS3!

Vy73
Marco
DD7PC

 
 -------------------------------1238195540-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de10.mx.aol.com (rly-de10.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.146]) by air-de05.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDE052-50a49cb977439b; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 10:56:07 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de10.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE105-50a49cb977439b; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 10:55:50 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lmqyg-00019j-V1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:54:42 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lmqyg-00019a-Hs for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:54:42 +0000 Received: from ttsmtp-2.cpwnetworks.com ([62.24.128.243] helo=ttsmtp.cpwnetworks.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lmqye-0005TK-8D for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:54:42 +0000 X-Path: TalkTalk-smtp X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhMGAK0zy0lcGcBt/2dsb2JhbACEP88xg3YG Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([92.25.192.109]) by ttsmtp.cpwnetworks.com with SMTP; 26 Mar 2009 14:53:32 +0000 Message-ID: <006301c9ae22$a1ce4220$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <4A6AE023E8F54CDF9ABFC1DB78F176BA@DR2> <49CB60CE.7050807@charter.net> <63B21C035B584FA68D28CB5FAE1589EB@DR2> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:53:30 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WSPR tonight Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dave You are talking about a large loop similar to what I use here and it performs vy well. Your power line could well be giving you some enhancement. Your reception on 500 khz seems well above all the others around and down the East coast. You can always copy my signals when the others are struggling or cannot hear or see my signal at all. 73 de mal/g3kev ----- Original Message ----- From: "dave.riley3" To: Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 11:59 AM Subject: Re: LF: WSPR tonight > After years at sea I never heard a 600M inland station, actually never > even > knew of one except for the Mississippi River stations WAY back... > > I am 3 miles inland and can tell you that car radio reception is weaker > here > with more QRN than being down by the water... > > What really helps is Bill Ashloop's antenna especially over very poor > conductivity ground and possibly the 23kv power lines that go down to the > beach in a NE direction probably adding some amount of Beverage effect... > > The odd DB or so from the directional properties of the loop also help > with > less noise arriving from the sides... > > No complaints... No ground radials, no hazardous voltages, no lossy > loading > coils, little e-noise on receive, no detuning during WX changes... > Just one piece of wire and one vacuum cap does it all... In fact it is > part > of the RFPA tank circuit here... ( no DC of course ) > > TNX > > Dave @ /17 > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Andrews" > To: > Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 7:02 AM > Subject: Re: LF: WSPR tonight > > >> Dave Riley seems to have some advantage by being right at the coast. Here >> at 100 km inland (due west), EU copy on 600M has been more difficult. I >> started a WSPR session around 0130 last night, and got only the following >> for the whole night: >> >> 090326 0436 3 -28 0.7 0.503881 M0BMU IO91 33 >> 090326 0450 1 -29 0.8 0.503881 7DJ/4Q3ASX S9 >> >> The previous evening, I had nothing at all on G0BND between 2300 and >> 0230, >> so things are looking up! >> >> John Andrews, W1TAG >> >> > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. 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You don't have to break the tube in doing this so its safe. =A0 It only takes about 10 minutes tops to remove and strip everything. Conserva= tively I reckon there is about =A35 of value to the average contructor in th= ere. Not bad for ten minutes work? =A0 Even the cleaned up CCT could be used like Vero at a push. =A0 Well thats my contribution to overcome these straitened times. =A0 73 Petefmt =A0 Plus the Tube still works and is a very good RF indicator on my 600m antenna= !! --- On Sun, 8/3/09, Peter Cleall wrote: From: Peter Cleall Subject: LF: energy saving bulbs To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sunday, 8 March, 2009, 2:53 PM For many years I have avoided using the energy saving bulbs under the impres= sion that they were major RF pollutents. I am under increasing pressure to m= ove to using these bulbs. =A0 =A0Are my concerns=A0still the case or are they old fashioned and out of dat= e. Do you have experience of using these bulbs in the home.=20 Do modern versions interfer with your Radio receiving , I am interested in s= ignals from 15 kHz to 500 MHz. Are there specific types or manufactures to be avoided Any thoughts would be appreciaated regards peter =A0 =20 --0-1872341988-1236619713=:53856 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable



Hi All GQRP/LF
 
What's an Energy Saving Lamp to you?
 
I'll tell you what .....Parts!!!!!!
 
9W Philips so called energy saving SFL
         
<= STRONG>Item <= U>Component
type		 <= U>Electrical
value		 U= nits Sp= ec
1 Resistor 5 Ohm 0.125W=
2 Resistor 5 Ohm 0.125W=
3 Resistor 1 Ohm 0.125W=
4 Resistor 700000 Ohm 0.125W=
5 Resistor 387000 Ohm 0.125W=
6 Resistor 48 Ohm 0.25W<= /TD>
7 Capacitor 100 nF Poly ?=
8 Capacitor 23 nF Poly ?=
9 Capacitor 2.3 nF Poly ?=
10 Capacitor 1.6 nF Poly ?=
11 Capacitor 2.2 Elec Micro F 350Vw<= /TD>
12 Inductor 2.795= mH Laminate  Core
13 Inductor 2.28<= /TD> mH Ferite Cylind= er
14 Inductor 131 (for 9T)= micro H Toroid R10 N3= 0
15 Transistor DK51<= /TD>   Unijuction De= vice
16 Transistor DK51<= /TD>   Unijuction De= vice
17 Diode= 1N4007 1000V - 1A Gen Purp Rect= ifier
18 Diode= 1N4008 1000V - 1A Gen Purp Rect= ifier
19 Diode= 1N4009 1000V - 1A Gen Purp Rect= ifier
20 Diode= 1N4010 1000V - 1A Gen Purp Rect= ifier
21 Diode= 1N4011 1000V - 1A Gen Purp Rect= ifier
22 Diode= 1N4012 1000V - 1A Gen Purp Rect= ifier
23 Diode= 1N4013 1000V - 1A Gen Purp Rect= ifier
24 Diode= !N4141<= /TD> Fast switch small signal det=
 
I cut one of these things up today and stripped it and measured all the= values. You don't have to break the tube in doing this so its safe.
 
It only takes about 10 minutes tops to remove and strip everything. Con= servatively I reckon there is about =A35 of value to the average contructor=20= in there. Not bad for ten minutes work?
 
Even the cleaned up CCT could be used like Vero at a push.
 
Well thats my contribution to overcome these straitened times.
 
73 Petefmt
 
Plus the Tube still works and is a very good RF indicator on my 600m an= tenna!!


--- On Sun, 8/3/09, Peter Cleall <peter.cleall@virgin.net> wrote:=

From: Peter Cleall <peter.cleall@virgin.net><= BR>Subject: LF: energy saving bulbs
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
D= ate: Sunday, 8 March, 2009, 2:53 PM

For many years I have avoided using the energy saving bulbs under the i= mpression that they were major RF pollutents. I am under increasing pressure= to move to using these bulbs.
 
 Are my concerns still the case or are they old fashioned and= out of date.
Do you have experience of using these bulbs in the home.
Do modern versions interfer with your Radio receiving , I am interested= in signals from 15 kHz to 500 MHz.
Are there specific types or manufactures to be avoided
Any thoughts would be appreciaated
regards
peter

 

=20 --0-1872341988-1236619713=:53856-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd06.mx.aol.com (rly-dd06.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.153]) by air-dd01.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD014-b8049cb6111343; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 07:03:55 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd06.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD062-b8049cb6111343; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 07:03:46 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LmnMq-00081q-ER for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 11:03:24 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LmnMq-00081h-3B for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 11:03:24 +0000 Received: from mta11.charter.net ([216.33.127.80]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LmnMn-0002FB-0m for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 11:03:23 +0000 Received: from imp09 ([10.20.200.9]) by mta11.charter.net (InterMail vM.7.09.01.00 201-2219-108-20080618) with ESMTP id <20090326110238.BVCV21265.mta11.charter.net@imp09> for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 07:02:38 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.2] ([66.189.74.84]) by imp09 with charter.net id Xn2e1b00A1p78xe05n2eYd; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 07:02:38 -0400 Message-ID: <49CB60CE.7050807@charter.net> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 07:02:38 -0400 From: John Andrews User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <4A6AE023E8F54CDF9ABFC1DB78F176BA@DR2> In-Reply-To: <4A6AE023E8F54CDF9ABFC1DB78F176BA@DR2> X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WSPR tonight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=LINES_OF_YELLING autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Dave Riley seems to have some advantage by being right at the coast. Here at 100 km inland (due west), EU copy on 600M has been more difficult. I started a WSPR session around 0130 last night, and got only the following for the whole night: 090326 0436 3 -28 0.7 0.503881 M0BMU IO91 33 090326 0450 1 -29 0.8 0.503881 7DJ/4Q3ASX S9 The previous evening, I had nothing at all on G0BND between 2300 and 0230, so things are looking up! John Andrews, W1TAG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg10.mx.aol.com (rly-dg10.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.94]) by air-dg02.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDG023-5f649c3b133366; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 11:07:35 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg10.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG101-5f649c3b133366; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 11:07:32 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LkgJC-0004cD-IU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 15:06:54 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LkgJC-0004c4-38 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 15:06:54 +0000 Received: from mail-qy0-f107.google.com ([209.85.221.107]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LkgJA-0000OE-NZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 15:06:54 +0000 Received: by qyk5 with SMTP id 5so1342727qyk.30 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 08:06:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=p7tnxm68jwDy8RTt61IpirXt+0UXo0nwysxvwIQwE40=; b=YC4dhsI7wMP7f8IhrZYiqAgyNaQZsdLljN4sf4p6luAHlL4jjYgscK2q3OJNh4kjiG YMC1Y3112sLZxdk6Ylv3++hQJ+mdtA3lQfMXURMxHh3JIPmLTphGbM/zGE8O0TS6K7l+ JgaFt5A+jdmmsoS5ykYnEFnK1UAy07GeB8Dg4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=bo/DNu8mLLev5B6YmK/l5rxlmJRVdsmB9QmcRtR6cOHGzfVETYyeIHrVIs47dQFR5g DrcXuPzJcHGYS0Ppc68PfFPWFYTE3Hn5uPoWeaME7gCBruliKDb9WbaOnhRBWiBWrJUa mdQtiT7WDvpdny7so5domnXRGcE1L6L3+U+5o= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.89.76 with SMTP id d12mr5667026qam.378.1237561605339; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 08:06:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 10:06:45 -0500 Message-ID: <57a24ca70903200806j20975111t2eae297d7555b7ac@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: Re: LF: XGJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d298.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Lubos, Thank you for the capture, conditions seem to be improving! --=20 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 2009/3/20 Lubos OK2BVG : > Hello Warren, LF! > I saw nice XGJ signal last night. > > Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS > > ________________________________ > St=E1hn=ECte si zcela nov=FD Messenger 2009! Klikni zde! From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc02.mx.aol.com (rly-dc02.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.31]) by air-dc08.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDC083-b0649a9df6d378; Sat, 28 Feb 2009 20:06:13 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc02.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC022-b0649a9df6d378; Sat, 28 Feb 2009 20:05:50 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lda7W-000182-2s for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 01:05:30 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lda7V-00017t-AU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 01:05:29 +0000 Received: from telium-3.telium.com.br ([200.155.160.75]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lda7S-0001Pb-SX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 01:05:29 +0000 Received: (qmail 14812 invoked from network); 1 Mar 2009 01:05:05 -0000 Received: from ip-189-96-96-185.user.vivozap.com.br (HELO DuoLaptop) (py2pll@py.qsl.br@[189.96.96.185]) (envelope-sender ) by telium-3.telium.com.br (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 1 Mar 2009 01:05:05 -0000 X-C3Mail-ID: 1235869505464242 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 8.0.237 [270.11.5/1977]); Sat, 28 Feb 2009 22:05:03 -0300 Message-ID: From: "PY2PLL" To: "RSGB LF Group" References: <49A91070.9040902@freenet.de> In-Reply-To: <49A91070.9040902@freenet.de> Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 22:04:48 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 X-Remote-IP: 189.96.96.185 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: "Silence of the Lamps", etc Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=======AVGMAIL-49A9DF400000=======" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=MIME_MISSING_BOUNDARY, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --=======AVGMAIL-49A9DF400000======= Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="ISO-8859-15"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi ... > > On the same website, there is also an article about a varctor tuned loop > antenna, where the author found the "Q" of the resonant antenna was > higher when tuned with varactor diodes, than with an air variable > capacitor (?!) : > > http://brneurosci.org/loopantenna.html > NTE618s are rare down here but I have some for testing. Actually I'm building a regular MW loop for external mount (rotor oriented, remotely tunned, 12AT7 tube as a balanced buffer, etc) and I'm using this event to test some parts: the 12AT7 cathode folower versus a 2xJ310 one, tunning element (NTE6128 X air variable X cheap film insulated MW radio variables). I don't want to use the traditional pick up loop ... a 10 turn antena X 1 turn coupling loop will present to receiver a Z between 100K <> 1Mohm! On my configuration, I'm picking up RF signals using those Hi-Z buffers right from the coil ends, e.g the places where tunnig elements are connected. And I'm doing some real measurements using local AM pests using a W&G SPM33 SLM. The first results shows that when NTE618 is used the received signals drops 12dB average when compared to an air variable capacitor. As expected. Ok, there's a lot of signal anyway, with 618 or air variable, it's simpler to use varicaps to remote tunning but ... I want the 12AT7 + air variable there :-) Diagrams + photos (texts in portuguese for a while, sorry) Theory + table comparing components expected thermal noise: http://py.qsl.br/loop_om.htm Tube Buffer = http://py.qsl.br/om_buffer.htm J310 buffer = http://py.qsl.br/a_pratica.htm 73 Marcus Ramos PY3CRX/PY2PLL Săo Bernardo do Campo - SP http://py.qsl.br --=======AVGMAIL-49A9DF400000======= Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=======AVGMAIL-49A9DF400000=======" --=======AVGMAIL-49A9DF400000=======-- --=======AVGMAIL-49A9DF400000======= Content-Type: text/plain; x-avg=cert; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Content-Description: "AVG certification" Nenhum v=EDrus encontrado nessa mensagem enviada. Verificado por AVG - www.avgbrasil.com.br=20 Vers=E3o: 8.0.237 / Banco de dados de v=EDrus: 270.11.5/1977 - Data de Lan= =E7amento: 02/28/09 17:21:00 --=======AVGMAIL-49A9DF400000=======-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db07.mx.aol.com (rly-db07.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.82]) by air-db07.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDB074-ad349aae44f14b; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 14:38:59 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db07.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB071-ad349aae44f14b; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 14:38:57 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LdrUd-0007bl-BY for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 19:38:31 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LdrUc-0007bc-Tb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 19:38:30 +0000 Received: from vms173005pub.verizon.net ([206.46.173.5]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LdrUb-0004VR-PP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 19:38:30 +0000 Received: from DR2 ([71.184.212.10]) by vms173005.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KFU00708EJDLR72@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 13:38:02 -0600 (CST) Message-id: From: "dave.riley3" To: Cc: "600MRG" References: <000a01c99a91$a54a1180$1402a8c0@e7010> <143887676.20090301200818@web.de> Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 14:38:01 -0500 MIME-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36 Subject: Re: LF: WSPR on 600m Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-15; reply-type=original Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 We're on the case here in the colonies, Walter... Check 0.505090 See you @ http://wsprnet.org/meptspots.php?mode=html&band=2190&limit=50&findcall=&findreporter=&sort=date Dave @ WD2XSH/17 = Dear All on MF, DI2AG will transmit WSPR tonight. Beginning 18UTC, ending 7UTC. Dial frequency 503.6KHz, beacon on 505.090KHz. Power 1W ERP. Reports welcome. Please report on WSPRnet.org or this reflector. 73 Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma06.mx.aol.com (rly-ma06.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.50]) by air-ma08.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMA081-8af49ce8c39326; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 16:45:01 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma06.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA061-8af49ce8c39326; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 16:44:42 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LnfNe-0001H0-2f for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 20:43:50 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LnfNd-0001Gr-Nd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 20:43:49 +0000 Received: from mailout.toya.net.pl ([217.113.224.27] ident=postfix) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LnfNb-0003Gv-DQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 20:43:49 +0000 Received: from localhost (unknown [192.168.120.26]) by lazir.toya.net.pl (TOYAnet MailServer) with ESMTP id 1B4498C1E2 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 21:43:16 +0100 (CET) X-TOYA-AV: AntyVir-Skaner at toya.net.pl Received: from lazir.toya.net.pl ([192.168.120.25]) by localhost (antyvir.toya.net.pl [192.168.120.26]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4C1cYc336MwU for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 21:43:16 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.11.178.152] (lazir [217.113.224.3]) (Authenticated sender: unimlyn) by lazir.toya.net.pl (TOYAnet MailServer) with ESMTP id D8A7C8BF67 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 21:43:15 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <49CE8BE3.6040409@toya.net.pl> Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 21:43:15 +0100 From: =?UTF-8?B?UGlvdHIgTcWCeW5hcnNraQ==?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <49CBF051.9090707@usa.net> <49CBFB9E.9040903@usa.net> <49CC0310.3040808@telia.com> <200903270850420424.4E77B52F@smtp.wanadoo.fr> <007201c9afda$c31fc3e0$6501a8c0@TORRE> <20090328194025.227840@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <20090328194025.227840@gmx.net> X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Lazy Man's CW made it to Venus and back Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Dennis wrote: >Hi! >May be ;) off topic, but to enrich your collection: > >German: Perlen vor die S=C3=A4ue (werfen). >Polish: (Rzucic/rzucac) perly przed wieprze. > >73 >Dennis=20 >DL6NVC > > > =20 > Hi Dennis, LF i am impressed! it was a perfect polish language - not even a single=20 mistake... :) 73 to all de peter , sq7mpj qth: lodz, poland/jo91rs/ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd06.mx.aol.com (rly-dd06.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.153]) by air-dd03.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDD031-b8549b5123a29c; Mon, 09 Mar 2009 08:57:47 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd06.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD067-b8549b5123a29c; Mon, 09 Mar 2009 08:57:33 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lgf2E-0005GC-NQ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Mar 2009 12:56:46 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lgf2E-0005G3-8J for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Mar 2009 12:56:46 +0000 Received: from relay.ptn-ipout02.plus.net ([212.159.7.36]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lgf2D-0004zG-5Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Mar 2009 12:56:46 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AsMOAIOutEnUnw4S/2dsb2JhbACBSIhSg1fDLIQFBg Received: from pih-relay05.plus.net ([212.159.14.18]) by relay.ptn-ipout02.plus.net with ESMTP; 09 Mar 2009 12:56:39 +0000 Received: from [212.159.90.113] (helo=Hugh) by pih-relay05.plus.net with smtp (Exim) id 1Lgevb-0002ay-T1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Mar 2009 12:49:56 +0000 Message-ID: <074DB78DC81E4354B8D9F4645D7E2A42@Hugh> From: "Hugh_m0wye" To: References: <1794381892.23372.1236524009509.JavaMail.mail@webmail03> <007f01c9a004$97057380$0900a8c0@AM> Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 12:49:35 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Plusnet-Relay: 6e7ae458368700926ccda862ca36b714 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36 Subject: LF: Re: Re: energy saving bulbs Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Peter and group, I don't know if this contributes to the original discussion, but I found this table which shows the relative efficencies of different types of lamp: The original is here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luminous_efficacy#Lighting_efficiency Note the wide range of efficiency for LED lamps - some are worse than incandescent ! I have found some Compact fluorescent lamps radiate. They all have an "electronic ballast circuit" which chops the mains and very little room for any filtering. Their frequency wanders. But some are worse than others. Alan is right about strip lights which are efficient light producers and, with conventional inductive ballast, are usually RF-quiet. Category Type Overall luminous efficacy (lm/W) Overall luminous efficiency[3] Combustion candle 0.3 [6] 0.04% gas mantle 2 [7] 0.3% Incandescent 100 W tungsten incandescent (220 V) 13.8 [8] 2.0% 200 W tungsten incandescent (220 V) 15.2 [9] 2.2% 100 W tungsten glass halogen (220 V) 16.7 [10] 2.4% 200 W tungsten glass halogen (220 V) 17.6 [9] 2.6% 500 W tungsten glass halogen (220 V) 19.8 [9] 2.9% 5 W tungsten incandescent (120 V) 5 0.7% 40 W tungsten incandescent (120 V) 12.6 [11] 1.9% 100 W tungsten incandescent (120 V) 17.5 [11] 2.6% 2.6 W tungsten glass halogen (5.2 V) 19.2 [12] 2.8% quartz halogen (12–24 V) 24 3.5% photographic and projection lamps 35 [13] 5.1% Light-emitting diode white LED 10–100 [14][15][16] 1.5–15% Arc lamp xenon arc lamp 30–50 [17][18] 4.4–7.3% mercury-xenon arc lamp 50–55 [17] 7.3–8.0% Fluorescent 9–26 W compact fluorescent 57–72 [19][20] 8–11% T12 tube with magnetic ballast 60 [21] 9% T5 tube 70–100 [22] 10–15% T8 tube with electronic ballast 80–100 [21] 12–15% Gas discharge 1400 W sulfur lamp 100 15% metal halide lamp 65–115 [23] 9.5–17% high pressure sodium lamp 85–150 [24][9] 12–22% low pressure sodium lamp 100–200 [24][25][9] 15–29% Theoretical maximum Green light at 555 nm 683.002 100% 73 Hugh M0WYE ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Melia" To: Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 3:42 PM Subject: LF: Re: energy saving bulbs > Peter some do and some dont. I have found the Osram bad and the Philips > best > so far. There are a number of other things to think about too. > One, in normal replacement for tungten Fil they do NOT last 10,000 hours. > The reason seems to be that in a normal vertical hanging fitting the > connector end of the assembly get very hot....... this bit of course > contains the electronics which get unreliable with increasing temperature. > Bulb life test on fil bulbs is traditionally done the "other way up" for > ease of loading....so maybe this was not spotted. > They take several 10s of seconds to reach usable brightness....longer than > tuble starters. No good for short spells of activity as they are only > becomming usable when they are switched off. > They do contain mercury, albeit a small amount. > They should not be used in reading lamps which come close to the face as > there is a signigicant UV content. > I have just been using one in a bedside lamp and after a couple of days > relised I could smell a similar smell to that close to a Xerox > machine.....yes the lamp was pproducing sufficient ozone to significantly > irritate the nostrils. > > I have a large stock of filament lamps!! but I use tube fluorescents for > main lighting which are even more efficient in terms of light for energy > (no > a lot of "greenies" or lamp manufacturers admit that, and my tube > fluorescents are radio quiet for antennas outside the house. I have > relagated the CFLs to outside lighting fittings, which I occasionally > forget > to switch off!! > > The tale that filament lamps are inefficient is a myth !! All the energy > fed > to the bulb is converted into radiation ! some is light and some is > heat.....a CLF just produces less heat and more light and more polution! > > Alan G3NYK > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter Cleall" > To: > Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 2:53 PM > Subject: LF: energy saving bulbs > > >> For many years I have avoided using the energy saving bulbs under the > impression that they were major RF pollutents. I am under increasing > pressure to move to using these bulbs. >> >> >> >> Are my concerns still the case or are they old fashioned and out of > date. >> >> Do you have experience of using these bulbs in the home. >> >> Do modern versions interfer with your Radio receiving , I am interested > in signals from 15 kHz to 500 MHz. >> >> Are there specific types or manufactures to be avoided >> >> Any thoughts would be appreciaated >> >> regards >> >> peter >> >> >> >> >> > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (rly-ma08.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.52]) by air-ma08.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMA084-8bf49c1572422b; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 16:19:15 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA081-8bf49c1572422b; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 16:18:47 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lk2Do-0001wX-M3 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 20:18:40 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lk2Do-0001wO-Aj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 20:18:40 +0000 Received: from bay0-omc3-s40.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.240]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lk2Dm-0000wa-PY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 20:18:40 +0000 Received: from BAY101-W51 ([64.4.56.151]) by bay0-omc3-s40.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 18 Mar 2009 13:18:08 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [212.4.140.33] From: Lubos OK2BVG To: Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:18:07 +0100 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Mar 2009 20:18:08.0411 (UTC) FILETIME=[A722B6B0:01C9A806] X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_93ec5877-c1ca-4e4c-9e61-7391d9695f09_" Subject: LF: AFJ X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_93ec5877-c1ca-4e4c-9e61-7391d9695f09_ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_fcead2db-887b-48c7-8acd-b82dd2f47342_" --_fcead2db-887b-48c7-8acd-b82dd2f47342_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Jean-Pierre, LF! I just see your signal. FB! Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS _________________________________________________________________ Pozvi sv=E9 p=F8=E1tele z Facebooku a Hotmailu do Messengeru! https://www.invite2messenger.net/Default.aspx=3D --_fcead2db-887b-48c7-8acd-b82dd2f47342_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Jean-Pierre, LF!
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+0000 Received: from [80.12.242.27] (helo=smtp20.orange.fr) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ln6qM-0007C9-2r for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 07:51:12 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2011.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 9B2CC20000B2 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 08:51:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from JR (Mix-Dijon-106-3-129.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.248.130.129]) by mwinf2011.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 8F097200004E for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 08:51:00 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20090327075101586.8F097200004E@mwinf2011.orange.fr Message-ID: <200903270850420424.4E77B52F@smtp.wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <49CC0310.3040808@telia.com> References: <49CBF051.9090707@usa.net> <49CBFB9E.9040903@usa.net> <49CC0310.3040808@telia.com> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (P) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 08:50:42 +0100 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Lazy Man's CW made it to Venus and back Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 On 26/03/2009 at 23:34 Johan H. Bodin wrote: >I didn't know it was an English saying/proverb! The swedish translation >"Kasta p=E4rlor f=F6r svinen" is sometimes used in similar circumstances... Very close. The English version has the same origins as Swedish "Casting pe= arls before swine". 73 John F5VLF From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me01.mx.aol.com (rly-me01.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.34]) by air-me04.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINME043-99549b3e7a82; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 11:43:52 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me01.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME011-99549b3e7a82; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 11:43:38 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LgL9n-0006nU-AX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 15:43:15 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LgL9m-0006nL-Jm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 15:43:14 +0000 Received: from smtp813.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.73]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LgL9l-0007Xf-RI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 15:43:14 +0000 Received: (qmail 24459 invoked from network); 8 Mar 2009 15:43:08 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=pvK/CeGN2qLnhuaeCw9DYl3A/7rzfEc+3mUdf8ByoGzu3/sO6S03hn6BW1YK9M/3HHV6lFOaq1/QsNgf2vvZ8jLzQsR3V2eJSSgBGbmCOUEyfZo79X8M8JoghSbT2l37M13OfiQtMgLJlRLSfWzmrHIdO3332erzY44ejtSGQIw= ; Received: from unknown (HELO Lark) (alan.melia@213.122.15.93 with login) by smtp813.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Mar 2009 15:43:07 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 1JLNUZcVM1njFSMNTeJrZN.8E1ygeXIynLaJV80zAqxIE0Vx33Hhc_lZxoc4yXXlG.8EHfk93Om9_S7HlnpBRJp84DGkr2WoXAvCDF1mAQYQ7MolOm_8QeN5.no_0ILeoztKJ2l6wJ3kcfGv6D9bnytUe0b65XLTYWqKHmVhJgvA6RlT..vZZiYiELpInZtRWMzyaVi5D2zwvgZwODkXv8RfKcnG7A-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <007f01c9a004$97057380$0900a8c0@AM> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <1794381892.23372.1236524009509.JavaMail.mail@webmail03> Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 15:42:14 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: energy saving bulbs Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Peter some do and some dont. I have found the Osram bad and the Philips best so far. There are a number of other things to think about too. One, in normal replacement for tungten Fil they do NOT last 10,000 hours. The reason seems to be that in a normal vertical hanging fitting the connector end of the assembly get very hot....... this bit of course contains the electronics which get unreliable with increasing temperature. Bulb life test on fil bulbs is traditionally done the "other way up" for ease of loading....so maybe this was not spotted. They take several 10s of seconds to reach usable brightness....longer than tuble starters. No good for short spells of activity as they are only becomming usable when they are switched off. They do contain mercury, albeit a small amount. They should not be used in reading lamps which come close to the face as there is a signigicant UV content. I have just been using one in a bedside lamp and after a couple of days relised I could smell a similar smell to that close to a Xerox machine.....yes the lamp was pproducing sufficient ozone to significantly irritate the nostrils. I have a large stock of filament lamps!! but I use tube fluorescents for main lighting which are even more efficient in terms of light for energy (no a lot of "greenies" or lamp manufacturers admit that, and my tube fluorescents are radio quiet for antennas outside the house. I have relagated the CFLs to outside lighting fittings, which I occasionally forget to switch off!! The tale that filament lamps are inefficient is a myth !! All the energy fed to the bulb is converted into radiation ! some is light and some is heat.....a CLF just produces less heat and more light and more polution! Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Cleall" To: Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 2:53 PM Subject: LF: energy saving bulbs > For many years I have avoided using the energy saving bulbs under the impression that they were major RF pollutents. I am under increasing pressure to move to using these bulbs. > > > > Are my concerns still the case or are they old fashioned and out of date. > > Do you have experience of using these bulbs in the home. > > Do modern versions interfer with your Radio receiving , I am interested in signals from 15 kHz to 500 MHz. > > Are there specific types or manufactures to be avoided > > Any thoughts would be appreciaated > > regards > > peter > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df02.mx.aol.com (rly-df02.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.15]) by air-df01.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDF013-53049ccf8cd145; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 12:03:44 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df02.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF023-53049ccf8cd145; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 12:03:26 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LnEW2-0004Pz-TC for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 16:02:42 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LnEW2-0004Pq-I4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 16:02:42 +0000 Received: from mailout.toya.net.pl ([217.113.224.27] ident=postfix) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LnEW0-0000Gw-Hf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 16:02:42 +0000 Received: from localhost (unknown [192.168.120.26]) by lazir.toya.net.pl (TOYAnet MailServer) with ESMTP id EF0F28C314 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 17:02:37 +0100 (CET) X-TOYA-AV: AntyVir-Skaner at toya.net.pl Received: from lazir.toya.net.pl ([192.168.120.25]) by localhost (antyvir.toya.net.pl [192.168.120.26]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id un0B2imyV48k for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 17:02:37 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.11.178.152] (lazir [217.113.224.3]) (Authenticated sender: unimlyn) by lazir.toya.net.pl (TOYAnet MailServer) with ESMTP id AC1E98BF70 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 17:02:37 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <49CCF89D.4030408@toya.net.pl> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 17:02:37 +0100 From: =?UTF-8?B?UGlvdHIgTcWCeW5hcnNraQ==?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <8bf118410903270647t5ebb0cedi82b96e2ea73075bd@mail.gmail.com> <20090327162720.6et0xg2farr40g0c@webmail4.kuleuven.be> In-Reply-To: <20090327162720.6et0xg2farr40g0c@webmail4.kuleuven.be> X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Lazy Man's CW made it to Venus and back Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Rik Strobbe wrote: > Dave, > > If I got it right their ran 5kW into a 20m dish at 2.4GHz. > The dish gain should be about 50dBd. > 50dB = 100000 times Dave, Rick, LF sorry , i was too quick and 'forgot ' abt the gain .. so divide my estimate 18000 km/watt by 10^5 and you end up with 0.18 km/watt 73, peter, sq7mpj qth; 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boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0081_01C9A726.019026F0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.1 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_40_50, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0081_01C9A726.019026F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message -----=20 From: dave.riley3=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 5:26 PM Subject: Re: LF: RE: Who's playing on 503.7 Last night the RED station slot was the winner with three definite big bum= ps right where they should be @ 30 secs... One was within 2 DBs of a frequency readout... ( count as decode ?? ) Both DI2AM and SM6BHZ were coming in nicely while the sun was still up... Fairly quiet background noise... Will set the traps again tonight... I find that using USB is better than expected: eg: 503.000 USB=20 1. Can tune ARGO Tone freq as desired across the band.. 2180 for DI2AM 2. WSPR parks there nicely.. 1500 for SM6BHZ 3. Beacon S/W has the luxury of changing tone frequency... In this case 70= 0hz. for G4JNT Thus allowing for many monitors in one passband...=20 At this rate the CPU was only 20% busy... Now to figure out how to use I/Q or baseband of Spectravue output to run i= n to the various programs... Next bridge to cross... 73s from Dave ( in the colonies ) ------=_NextPart_000_0081_01C9A726.019026F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 dave.riley3
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 5:26=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: RE: Who's playing=20= on=20 503.7

Last night the RED station slot was the winner= with=20 three definite big bumps right where they should be @ 30=20 secs...
 
One was within 2 DBs of a frequency readout...= (=20 count as decode ?? )
 
Both DI2AM and SM6BHZ were coming in nicely wh= ile=20 the sun was still up...
Fairly quiet background=20 noise...
 
Will set the traps again=20 tonight...
 
I find that using USB is better than=20 expected:
 
eg: 503.000 USB 
 
1. Can tune ARGO Tone freq as desired across t= he=20 band.. 2180 for DI2AM
2. WSPR parks there nicely..  1500 for=20 SM6BHZ
3. Beacon S/W has the luxury of changing tone=20 frequency... In this case 700hz. for G4JNT
 
Thus allowing for many monitors in one passban= d...=20
At this rate the CPU was only 20%=20 busy...
 
Now to figure out how to use I/Q or baseband o= f=20 Spectravue output to run in to the various=20 programs...
Next bridge to cross...
 
73s from Dave ( in the colonies=20 )
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0081_01C9A726.019026F0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf03.mx.aol.com (rly-mf03.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.173]) by air-mf07.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMF072-95149bfda3e322; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 13:13:48 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf03.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF037-95149bfda3e322; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 13:13:35 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ljcr2-0004GU-HM for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 17:13:28 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ljcr2-0004GL-5c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 17:13:28 +0000 Received: from qw-out-1920.google.com ([74.125.92.146]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ljcr0-0001JT-Er for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 17:13:28 +0000 Received: by qw-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 5so97182qwc.16 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 10:13:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=0TwSQchEIhPf27S0AKVByldsxt48AQh/PajbZXHgBv0=; b=DfVd9oXCzmOsfg+my8Mkz67zs4lVTMGhn4UIhWyiRKJvnAtPtn5vSdMv6wMcRSEvwI 3JwuzUV/5P32mzrsmvafgvqfC91yi/zBwu0n5Vq947H3S274WNORjYfnQyym46mu+pm+ bkHA5Dct38PsGF3vM5SIDhNNhabai2aziOlLA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=f1pK/jrMZdQJBxkpoTv9yHgjNFLW6eGabeyDFFSPYZNuGQqY9NV7BlshoyxV6T8LB8 o+E2KhuVn2XeJKvihKGESe03JEX36Jx2rxi5LO4gA/LwYLpJVfd6lZvAmTrAiomXnyfQ mcT3dbhPATGF3v/n7MXikpqTG5h3AiOdNH7bI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.11.71 with SMTP id s7mr481655qas.51.1237310006203; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 10:13:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 12:13:26 -0500 Message-ID: <57a24ca70903171013l86becb8lbb3f817fbcef1d79@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: XGJ 17-03.jpg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m244.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Tnx Henny! -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 2009/3/17 henny van elst : > Hi Warren,LF > capture XGJ > Henny pa3cpm > 73s > Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden > verzonden: > XGJ 17-03.jpg > > Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen > het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. > Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe > bijlagen worden afgehandeld. -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db05.mx.aol.com (rly-db05.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.80]) by air-db01.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDB013-ac549b012e12eb; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 12:59:11 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db05.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB053-ac549b012e12eb; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 12:58:59 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LfHq5-0007GF-I2 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 17:58:33 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LfHq5-0007G6-6J for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 17:58:33 +0000 Received: from mail-fx0-f174.google.com ([209.85.220.174]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LfHq3-0002j2-IC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 17:58:33 +0000 Received: by fxm22 with SMTP id 22so52011fxm.4 for ; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 09:58:25 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ReUdlCDrtCUGpzMJ6zwFe/BbV/9TFkU7KdC+NG3NB2I=; b=JUBD9/06bncG4E6OsQq5pdoUbryv+TEND+2Ap8qebDbnq0ILOsB5v7HUtId0WBq3t+ TZ7jyEltnqjhNjokux4JXxTaWaCgvds9RgZbX4Vhm1I4siHi6gnhJ9TWvdlXZD756Jdp k7y0rtxT4h8auRU8xKBwUqWLhCHloqVRVyp7s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=C8Rit6+VjEVlnZYXb8QrNOcFI+UDkR1Vbg5PaGIZAFjWdJUBmYpahydbaAXAO0C0Tg FqGzPLSS3l7ebWeuA90jFqwcNdSUjKvOapoaeH2cXll++RfkkaVaMW8uq+uODMUm/tLT FmUvHsZjyV5hk2OJf8XxM7dQtoskwMdSR8roI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.122.15 with SMTP id j15mr1212857far.10.1236275905390; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 09:58:25 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 17:58:25 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: WSPR Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m265.2 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : fail X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) I'll run my WSPR beacon again tonight on 503.870kHz (USB Dial 502.4kHz, tone 1470Hz) unless there are any big Eu / US stations going to be operational elsewhere in the band. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg07.mx.aol.com (rly-dg07.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.91]) by air-dg05.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDG054-5d849b3a6ba24e; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 07:06:44 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg07.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG071-5d849b3a6ba24e; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 07:06:36 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LgGpj-0003PN-9s for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 11:06:15 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LgGpi-0003PE-FR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 11:06:14 +0000 Received: from mout0.freenet.de ([195.4.92.90]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LgGph-0004Pw-DT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 11:06:14 +0000 Received: from [195.4.92.18] (helo=8.mx.freenet.de) by mout0.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID beckmann.erlangen@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #79) id 1LgGpf-00018c-MC; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 12:06:11 +0100 Received: from w080f.w.pppool.de ([89.58.8.15]:1444 helo=2a2d7ed321c6425) by 8.mx.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID beckmann.erlangen@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #76) id 1LgGpe-00036O-Gv; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 12:06:11 +0100 From: "Beckmann, Gerhard" To: Cc: "'Robert Hemesley'" References: <0566EF6DE20B4249A3E74859BF9BA2C6@AGB> <9C03FBF153AB478A9B0DBC5580CF20D2@AGB> <28FA0F184B25444F8BA2F1EC5FC42C04@AGB> Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 12:06:08 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: AcmfdutVhEjyi+6+R+y3bgnMsjJpQgAZP7gg In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: AW: 503.7 Multi-function beacon ... Its working ! Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0012_01C99FE6.4551C110" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C99FE6.4551C110 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Graham, Hello Andy,=20 =20 reading about your activities concerning Multi-function beacon I tried yesterday evening to catch your signals, but unfortunately with no results copying your sig. May be condx were not good enough. Moreover I had some bad manmade QRM from TV and PC. =20 As Rob Hemesley told you I am active in 5-MHz-beaco- monitoring specially concerning scattergram monitoring in order to analyse signal path situation (direct wave / sky wave behaviour). But I am running both analysis software, GB3RAL.exe and Scattergram.exe and it would not be any problem to modify the internal PC-clock specially regarding GB3RAL.exe in order to analyse the long term signal level of your Multi-function beacon. So I will try to continue monitoring your Multi-function beacon hopefully that condx will be better in the next evening sessions (hi). If there will be Scattergram acties in future I certainly need some more dB signal level, but it would be very interesting to investigate the signal path situation. Of course, this is more interesting for those participants who are located in a distance range between 150 and 300 km in order to monitor the slide crossover from direct wave to sky wave signal path.=20 However, thank you very much for implementation of your very interesting Multi-function beacon project and I will keep on running my monitoring activities and will inform you in any case about further results. =20 vy 73 and a lot of success by running Multi-function beacons, I will be =93o= n the qui vive=94 !!! =20 de Gerhard / DK6NI (JN59LN) =20 By the way:=20 Dial frequency 505.2 kHz, is that o.k.? (because GB3RAL.exe is decoding with 1500 Hz too). For BPSK31-decoding I am using DigiPan Vers.2.0 =20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =20 =20 =20 _____ =20 Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von Graham Gesendet: Samstag, 7. M=E4rz 2009 23:46 An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Betreff: LF: 503.7 Multi-function beacon ... Its working ! =20 So far so good .. quite a step up in signal round 2100 hrs =20 no frequency decode before then , 15 db over noise at 2130 =20 but a trend showing=20 about 1 hour slow qsb=20 =20 any other reports ? =20 G ..=20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C99FE6.4551C110 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello Graham, Hello Andy,

 

reading about your activities conc= erning Multi-function beacon I tried yesterday evening to catch your signals, but unfortunately with no results copying your sig. May be condx were not good enough.=A0 Moreover I had some bad manmade QRM from TV and PC.

 

=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 As Rob Hemesley to= ld you I am active in 5-MHz-beaco- monitoring specially concerning=A0 scattergram monitoring in order to analys= e signal path situation (direct wave / sky wave behaviour).<= /font>

=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 But I am running b= oth analysis software, GB3RAL.exe and Scattergram.exe and it would not be any problem to modify the internal PC-clock specially regarding GB3RAL.exe in order to analyse the long term si= gnal level of your Multi-function beacon. So I will try to continue monitoring yo= ur Multi-function beacon hopefully that condx will be better in the next evenin= g sessions (hi).

=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 If there will be S= cattergram acties in future I certainly need some more dB signal level, but it would be very interesting t= o investigate the signal path situation.

=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Of course, this is= more interesting for those participants who are located in a distance range between 150 and 300 km in order to monit= or the slide crossover from direct wave to sky wave signal path.

=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0=A0However, thank=20= you very much for implementation of your very interesting Multi-function beacon project and I will keep on running my monitoring activities and will inform you in any case about furth= er results.

 

vy 73 and a lot of success by runn= ing Multi-function beacons, I will be “on the qui vive” !!!

 

de Gerhard=A0 /=A0 DK6NI=A0 (JN59L= N)

 

By the way:

Dial frequency 505.2 kHz, is that=20= o.k.? (because GB3RAL.exe is decoding with 1500 Hz too).

For BPSK31-decoding I am using Dig= iPan Vers.2.0

 

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

 

 

 

Von:= owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g] Im Auftrag von Graham
Gesendet: Samstag, 7. M=E4rz=20= 2009 23:46
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Betreff: LF: 503.7 Multi-func= tion beacon ... Its working !

 

So far so good .. quite a step up in signal round=20= 2100 hrs 

no frequency decode before then , 15 db over noise= at 2130

 

but a trend showing

about  1 hour slow qsb

 

any other reports ?

 

G ..

 

------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C99FE6.4551C110-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf04.mx.aol.com (rly-mf04.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.174]) by air-mf07.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMF074-95949c160d12d1; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 17:00:22 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf04.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF047-95949c160d12d1; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 17:00:03 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lk2re-00034J-O1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 20:59:50 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lk2re-00034A-8o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 20:59:50 +0000 Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.44]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lk2rc-00046P-Sm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 20:59:50 +0000 Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (smtpshost02.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.75]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6838E51C008 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:59:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3487FF3864 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:59:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.242.4]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B65CF3863 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:59:06 +0100 (CET) Received: by webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix, from userid 65534) id DD94D5AB7; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:59:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from 21.196-136-217.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (21.196-136-217.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [217.136.196.21]) by webmail4.kuleuven.be (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:59:06 +0100 Message-ID: <20090318215906.vn1zu4jium1w08cc@webmail4.kuleuven.be> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:59:06 +0100 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <009001c9a588$7eb02c60$6401a8c0@asus> <005101c9a679$df148f50$6401a8c0@asus> <916F3329CAA846A19B450540FCC7E0AB@AGB> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 217.136.196.21 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_IN_NJABL_PROXY=0.327 Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software QQQ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Andy, if I got it right the RX software will make a correct measurent as =20 long as the signal is there during the 5 second period, even if the =20 transmission start a few seconds early and stops a few seconds late ? That would make timing far less critical and it would be possible to =20 use my QRS software (eg. sending an "E" at 10 seconds dotlength). 73, Rik ON7YD Quoting Andy Talbot : > No it uses the average power over the 5 second period. You could always > start it 1s early and stop 1s later > Andy G4JNT > www.g4jnt.com > > > 2009/3/18 Graham > >> Andy, >> >> Q .. If the tx is keyed by vox/breakin will the slight clipping of >> the leading edge of the beacon cause time problems ?? >> reason being .. if use force 'tx' will miss the beacon rx windows ?? >> >> Tnx- G .. >> >> *From:* Andy Talbot >> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 17, 2009 4:27 PM >> *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> *Subject:* Re: LF: RE: Syncback software >> >> That should have read http://www.g4jnt.com/PCBCN.zip >> >> Andy G4JNT >> www.g4jnt.com >> >> >> 2009/3/17 Andy Talbot >> >>> Try http://www.g4jnt.com/beacons.htm and go to PCBCN at the bottom >>> or directly >>> >> ------------------------------ >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.16/2006 - Release Date: 03/17/0= 9 >> 07:23:00 >> >> > Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg06.mx.aol.com (rly-dg06.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.90]) by air-dg02.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDG021-5cf49ccebf22f3; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 11:08:47 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg06.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG062-5cf49ccebf22f3; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 11:08:37 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LnDeo-0003pO-Fh for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 15:07:42 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LnDeo-0003pF-3O for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 15:07:42 +0000 Received: from mailout.toya.net.pl ([217.113.224.27] ident=postfix) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LnDel-0004C5-Ut for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 15:07:42 +0000 Received: from localhost (unknown [192.168.120.26]) by lazir.toya.net.pl (TOYAnet MailServer) with ESMTP id 9003F8C312 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 16:07:38 +0100 (CET) X-TOYA-AV: AntyVir-Skaner at toya.net.pl Received: from lazir.toya.net.pl ([192.168.120.25]) by localhost (antyvir.toya.net.pl [192.168.120.26]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NOqoDioE4bjJ for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 16:07:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.11.178.152] (lazir [217.113.224.3]) (Authenticated sender: unimlyn) by lazir.toya.net.pl (TOYAnet MailServer) with ESMTP id 42C6C8C305 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 16:07:38 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <49CCEBB9.3070006@toya.net.pl> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 16:07:37 +0100 From: =?UTF-8?B?UGlvdHIgTcWCeW5hcnNraQ==?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <8bf118410903270647t5ebb0cedi82b96e2ea73075bd@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8bf118410903270647t5ebb0cedi82b96e2ea73075bd@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Lazy Man's CW made it to Venus and back Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Dave Pick wrote: > How many miles per Watt is that?!! > > Dave 'YXM Hi Dave , LF by the time of amsat-dl experiment the distance between Earth and Venus was abt 45 milions km ( 45*10^6 km) so it takes twice that distance to "see" the reflected signal , therefore, it takes roughly 300 sec or 5 minutes of 'waiting' :) ( speed of light 3*10^5 km/sec) and as Wolf, dl4yhf said it was 5 kilowatt tx power thus making 18 000 km per watt btw, it seems to be of the same order as the best wspr HF beacon rx on earth :) 73, peter, sq7mpj qth: lodz, poland /jo91rs/ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df02.mx.aol.com (rly-df02.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.15]) by air-df06.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDF062-52e49d27a1d12; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 16:16:45 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df02.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF021-52e49d27a1d12; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 16:16:34 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LokNI-0002bk-Gu for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 21:15:56 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LokNI-0002bb-57 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 21:15:56 +0100 Received: from mail-bw0-f219.google.com ([209.85.218.219]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LokNE-0002jh-Iz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 21:15:56 +0100 Received: by bwz19 with SMTP id 19so2926535bwz.4 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 13:14:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=TuFDtTKIRsd2totAmiZ9J2aIAjbapJZcywm2N0WMY3g=; b=WysKIup0g0S2rL5F0cHH+lUCuNAeOJ8hXlMdoA5jigF8eThQ+O5OuvDZs+LKoO2YXm XdvXjn92AfQ9wMmFLzeeLie6kSNU41yo/+6BDEqmhzth8jqCPN12u/SFT8NGAYUPMe6v cVEdjDBrvXRnOemIL2EIJA/NJA1vrTzKdt1IM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=FN5F+5JfeTkPhA3jmvqZsDWkCXBeCvb4JPOa8QcjB7uTneDGaz5WJqtSizg3n8cRRc 8qjYrKrgI9oPF0AZUxV+nGzGonPPmOICqUtCAfD9bY+P0haVKP2hHNW3uYEJu2UmMpei O+2PT3+Q7hT6T9XaFQXgrmeE4Fq6yC2SIftNI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.62.68 with SMTP id w4mr2498459bkh.122.1238530486529; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 13:14:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 21:14:46 +0100 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Beacons Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c92477b16e1804666fd92f X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d247.1 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --001636c92477b16e1804666fd92f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mine is still running. Every 15 minute interval at 4, 19, 34, 49 past the hour. CW + power steps + carrier + PSK31 + carrier for one minute. 503.700kHz Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/3/31 dave.riley3 > *Any 600M beacons or sigs from EU tonight??* > ** > ** > *TNX* > ** > *Dave @ WD2XSH/17* > ** > ** > --001636c92477b16e1804666fd92f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Mine is still running.=A0=A0Every 15 minute interval at=A0 4, 19, 34, 4= 9 past the hour.=A0=A0 CW + power steps + carrier + PSK31 + carrier for one=20= minute.=A0=A0=A0 503.700kHz

Andy =A0G4JNT
www= .g4jnt.com


2009/3/31 dave.riley3 <dave.riley3@verizon.net>=
Any 600M beacons or sigs from EU tonight??
=A0
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TNX
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Dave @ WD2XSH/17
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--001636c92477b16e1804666fd92f-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh09.mx.aol.com (rly-mh09.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.145]) by air-mh03.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMH033-bf249acf386198; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 04:08:40 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh09.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH092-bf249acf386198; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 04:08:25 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LeQbD-0004qY-Vi for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 09:07:39 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LeQbD-0004qP-Gd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 09:07:39 +0000 Received: from psmtp30.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.32]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LeQbC-0001zl-Pf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 09:07:39 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp30.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KFX004QHAOKJK@psmtp30.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 10:07:32 +0100 (MET) Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 10:07:19 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <0996D807904146C4AB13350C3ABC7E5F@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: YO 02-03.jpg Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_kb53Vk3CVMZ13zcxT+YCEA)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_kb53Vk3CVMZ13zcxT+YCEA) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_984Mk021YeXVHXa89kXuNA)" --Boundary_(ID_984Mk021YeXVHXa89kXuNA) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Hi lf, capture YO Henny cpm 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: YO 02-03.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld. --Boundary_(ID_984Mk021YeXVHXa89kXuNA) Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
Hi lf,
capture YO
Henny cpm
73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
YO 02-03.jpg

Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: RE: EI--- 500khz permit applications Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear LF, There's an article about 500 kHz permissions on the Irish Radio Transmitters Society (IRTS) web-site, here:- http://www.irts.ie/cgi/thisweek.cgi There's also a form to be filled in to express interest. http://www.irts.ie/downloads/500KHzExpressionOfInterest.pdf 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Alan Melia Sent: 29 March 2009 16:05 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Fw: EI--- 500khz permit applications ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael J. Probert" To: "Alan Melia" Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 3:32 PM Subject: FW: EI--- 500khz permit applications Hello Alan, The LF reflector does not seem to accept my posting. Could you kindly forward please? Best regards Mike. _______________________________ From: Michael Probert GW4HXO [mailto:mikegw4hxo@solva.co.uk] Sent: 29 March 2009 14:57 To: 'owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org' Subject: EI--- 500khz permit applications Hello All, It was announced on the IRTS news today that applications for operation on the 500khz "Band" are now being invited. No specification has yet been posted. Permits will be limited. Best regards Mike GW4HXO From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc04.mx.aol.com (rly-dc04.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.33]) by air-dc06.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC061-b1649cc0344ba; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 18:35:57 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc04.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC042-b1649cc0344ba; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 18:35:52 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LmyAD-0004ue-IC for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 22:35:05 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LmyAD-0004uV-3d for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 22:35:05 +0000 Received: from pne-smtpout3-sn2.hy.skanova.net ([81.228.8.111]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LmyAA-0000UR-4h for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 22:35:05 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (213.64.47.29) by pne-smtpout3-sn2.hy.skanova.net (7.3.129) (authenticated as u33233109) id 478BDB960061ED3B for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 23:34:56 +0100 Message-ID: <49CC0310.3040808@telia.com> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 23:34:56 +0100 From: "Johan H. Bodin" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <49CBF051.9090707@usa.net> <49CBFB9E.9040903@usa.net> In-Reply-To: <49CBFB9E.9040903@usa.net> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Lazy Man's CW made it to Venus and back Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) I didn't know it was an English saying/proverb! The swedish translation "Kasta p=E4rlor f=F6r svinen" is sometimes used in similar circumstances... 73 Johan Alberto di Bene wrote: >> the meaning of the English saying of "throwing pearls to the porks".... >=20 > Or perhaps it is "throwing pearls to the pigs", but the meaning does not > change... From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db03.mx.aol.com (rly-db03.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.78]) by air-db08.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB083-aba49cf4ac5181; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 06:17:47 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db03.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB038-aba49cf4ac5181; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 06:17:42 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lns3l-00012U-GU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 11:16:09 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lns3k-00012L-Va for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 11:16:08 +0100 Received: from imo-m26.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.7] helo=imo-m26.mail.aol.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lns3i-0004nd-3i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 11:16:08 +0100 Received: from F4DTL@aol.com by imo-m26.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id l.c77.44ae0276 (65100) for ; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 06:14:52 -0400 (EDT) From: F4DTL@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 06:15:55 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5029 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: WSPR 137 kHz F4DTL Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1238321755" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 -------------------------------1238321755 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello the list, I start my first tries in WSPR on LF. I am in beacon on 137718 with a 50 % cycle until 1200z. Next tests this evening. Reports are welcome via the database WSPR Thank you in advance F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP -------------------------------1238321755 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello the list, I start my first tries in WSPR on LF.
I am in=20 beacon on 137718 with a 50 % cycle until 1200z.
Next tests this evening.
 
Reports are welcome via the database WSPR
Thank you in=20 advance
 
F4DTL=20 Nicolas JN18FP

 -------------------------------1238321755-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg05.mx.aol.com (rly-mg05.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.111]) by air-mg05.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMG051-a1249b44e13158; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 19:00:54 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg05.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG054-a1249b44e13158; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 19:00:38 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LgRyP-00043Y-M8 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 22:59:57 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LgRyP-00043P-1i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 22:59:57 +0000 Received: from smtp804.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.64]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LgRyO-0003tw-8S for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 22:59:56 +0000 Received: (qmail 56950 invoked from network); 8 Mar 2009 22:59:50 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=GMmB5oY+4lz8nCajzNDufngdTCArfVuX/vir6KYyC4KeHc176CsPSgz2uqyLMjwd1jcte21MJb9DZBBiAnZrSG6dzNxGE9osQPtZLwjd3Rcpc7EMY/xSFdYAoKx9lPLrlGnuFzgdaoBZKkf1HI4Azg0FQFKUTyFS5bBcCQT0DZg= ; Received: from unknown (HELO Lark) (alan.melia@81.131.55.125 with login) by smtp804.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Mar 2009 22:59:49 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 1qxwPqsVM1mjnDHWk1T0vV_n.p36A6PP_PLXuPABc2zbSHmU302ZVwupzt.nX3koDB6Ag4F___0TRYsDX4uviKFRa.yMWboiBzcsWWfthp8HHND4qrJYte3i6D6soCWvZ_n_QAOYT43K1FcL7cSPrcbz4Jt0pUXS_Q7Auw61sWxnv9uQulGqFHHdxOYtwLb7lHRuvPXLM1SOfS2kgbWSskxV3_C4t5U- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <003601c9a041$990c2c40$0900a8c0@AM> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <1794381892.23372.1236524009509.JavaMail.mail@webmail03> <007f01c9a004$97057380$0900a8c0@AM> <731EB49F88B309428FFDDD2423F810E4B90C1C@HERMES4.ds.leeds.ac.uk> Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 22:53:17 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: RE: Re: energy saving bulbs Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Chris with respect, the articles and ads and PR don't talk about light output but "saving energy", as I said they are not considered "domestically fashionable" but strip lights still are more effective in light output to energy input. As to the waste energy when you dont need the "extra" warmth, this is fairly negligible because it only occurs in the summer when you dont need lights for long anyway. How many still waste energy by having the freezer in the garage or uninsulated utility room? .Its like the drive to get you unplugging phone chargers when not in use, mine doesn't show on a power meter, which means well below a watt....I must measure it accurately sometime on my true rms meter. Better planning and reducing the kettle boils, or wash loads by one a week. or washing the dishes by hand once a week, would save more power. Why wont we accept street lights being put off at midnight?? 100s of kWhrs are consumed so a few people can walk home in towns after midnight. Don't get me wrong CFLs are a good idea but not so all-fired marvellous as we would be had to believe....everyone ain't a radio amateur though :-)) As to LEDs they look interesting and are now approching CFLs but are still behind strip lights for "efficiency". I reckon one problem might be they are low voltage devices hence the need for the switching voltage reducer. That means also that they are high current units and then there are big IR losses to heat too. I suppose series strings could be used but there might be a reliability problem inherent in running devices in series. As I said I have one make of CFLs that wipe 136kHz and probably upwards even with the antenna 10m away, But I havent found trouble with the Philips branded product yet on any frequency I listened. I still worry a little about the ozone smell but I dont know whether this is an isolated occurance yet. But that is not an exhaustive test they may just be different. I used to have a noisy tube light, bad on 160m, but presently used ones are surprisingly clean, unless you get up very close....within a foot or so. Cheers de Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Trayner" To: Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 8:32 PM Subject: LF: RE: Re: energy saving bulbs Dear All, Thanks, Alan, for your thoughts. > The tale that filament lamps are inefficient is a myth !! All the energy fed to the bulb is converted into radiation ! some is light and some is heat.....a CLF just produces less heat and more light and more polution! Well, in a sense you're right: efficiency is defined as (energy out) / (energy in), and the conservation of energy principle implies that (in the steady state) everything is 100% efficient ;-) In practice, by efficiency one means (wanted energy out) / (energy in), and when you turn on a lamp you're not necessarily cold. In engineering terms it's better to decouple the things and have a lamp produce just light. - Electricity is generated at something like 1/3 efficiency overall, and using fuels to generate heat directly is better. - The idea that waste heat can be used is relevant in cold climates, but presumably less so nearer the equator. I also wonder whether these discussions may be useful only for a limited time. I get the impression that LED room lighting may be starting to replace other forms. Is this right? How does its efficiency compare with other forms? Opinions, anyone? If LED room lighting does come in, it raises new problems of interference relevant to LF. One thinks of LEDs as being innocent DC devices fed via a resistor. But modern designs often turn them on and off at frequencies in the kHz range, generating harmonics going into the lower radio bands. This has been known for some time in the cave radio community, where 87kHz is the most commonly used band. The Cave Radio Journal has also documented interference with 2m and 70cm amateur band handhelds. This can work both ways - if I speak into a PMR446 radio it quenches my LED helmet lamp - the Empire strikes back! Cave radio experience is that interference from LED lamps is very short range, but these lamps are driven from local batteries. Will mains-driven ones radiate from the wiring? Do vehicle LEDs cause interference? Does anyone have any experience of this? 73, Chris G4OKW ----------------------------- Dr Chris Trayner School of Electronic & Electrical Engineering, The University of Leeds, Leeds LS2 9JT, United Kingdom Tel: +44 113 34 32053 Fax: +44 113 34 32032 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc04.mx.aol.com (rly-dc04.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.33]) by air-dc05.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDC052-b1649af69f71d4; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 00:58:32 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc04.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC042-b1649af69f71d4; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 00:58:18 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lf6a5-00074p-JB for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 05:57:17 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lf6a5-00074g-3d for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 05:57:17 +0000 Received: from bay0-omc3-s40.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.240]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lf6a3-0002cJ-1t for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 05:57:17 +0000 Received: from BAY105-W2 ([65.54.224.102]) by bay0-omc3-s40.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 4 Mar 2009 21:57:01 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [212.4.140.33] From: Lubos OK2BVG To: Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 06:57:00 +0100 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Mar 2009 05:57:01.0112 (UTC) FILETIME=[33A7CB80:01C99D57] X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_56572961-3f3e-4d4a-b465-13aff263cb59_" Subject: LF: XGJ X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_56572961-3f3e-4d4a-b465-13aff263cb59_ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_56b70da0-e1c6-491c-8876-d08095a20fe6_" --_56b70da0-e1c6-491c-8876-d08095a20fe6_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Warren, LF! Band was very noisy, I saw some traces of XGJ only. Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS _________________________________________________________________ Pozvi sv=E9 p=F8=E1tele z Facebooku a Hotmailu do Messengeru! https://www.invite2messenger.net/Default.aspx=3D --_56b70da0-e1c6-491c-8876-d08095a20fe6_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Warren, LF!
Band was very noisy, I saw some traces of XGJ only..
Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

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B. Weazle McCreath" To: Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 21:53:22 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Thanks Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Piotr, Ian, Alan, Thanks for the info on the U.K. coastal station frequencies. I'll have a look/listen and see what shows up. 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL Solar and wind powered Lowfer " EAR" 188.830 EN93dr http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg07.mx.aol.com (rly-mg07.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.113]) by air-mg08.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMG081-a2149bda488204; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 21:00:17 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg07.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG073-a2149bda488204; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 20:59:56 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lj1Ac-0001a3-Mi for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 00:59:10 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lj1Ac-0001Zu-9H for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 00:59:10 +0000 Received: from smtprelay0013.hostedemail.com ([216.40.44.13] helo=smtprelay.hostedemail.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lj1AZ-0007NZ-Su for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 00:59:10 +0000 Received: from filter.hostedemail.com (ff-bigip1 [10.5.19.254]) by smtprelay03.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 1570F177AFD3 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 00:59:01 +0000 (UTC) X-SpamScore: 1 X-Spam-Summary: 50,0,0,cf7eb1051f40d58a,49f40f4b3f783a2d,ve8rt@xplornet.com,rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org,RULES_HIT:152:355:379:408:599:601:800:945:960:967:973:988:989:1260:1261:1277:1311:1312:1313:1314:1345:1359:1437:1515:1516:1518:1519:1534:1542:1593:1594:1595:1596:1676:1711:1730:1747:1766:1792:2194:2199:2393:2525:2551:2553:2560:2563:2682:2685:2829:2857:2859:2933:2937:2939:2942:2945:2947:2951:2954:3022:3027:3355:3622:3636:3865:3866:3867:3868:3869:3870:3871:3872:3873:3874:3876:3877:3934:3936:3938:3941:3944:3947:3950:3953:3956:3959:4043:4250:4605:4648:4649:5007:6114:6119:6997:7576:7652:7679:7754:7903:7904:7974:8501:8599:9010:9025:9040:9108:9388:9545,0,RBL:none,CacheIP:none,Bayesian:0.5,0.5,0.5,Netcheck:none,DomainCache:0,MSF:not bulk,SPF:fu,MSBL:none,DNSBL:none Received: from [192.168.1.103] (xplr-ts-v10-208-114-191-189.barrettxplore.com [208.114.191.189]) (Authenticated sender: ron.t@xplornet.com) by omf04.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 00:58:57 +0000 (UTC) From: Ron Thompson To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 18:58:47 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.4 References: <200903141634.37933.ve8rt@xplornet.com> <8bf118410903151024k69053f8cs345c4673ad93deec@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Organization: ARS VE8RT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200903151858.47737.ve8rt@xplornet.com> X-session-marker: 726F6E2E744078706C6F726E65742E636F6D X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Getting started, maybe Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Graham, my actual location is at postal code X1A 2H5 I'm in the company crew house at the float base. In the Google map for the postal code, at the highest available satellite magnification, you should see floatplanes along the parking lot and then in a cove on the upper side of the parking lot is a yellow Cessna floatplane. The house just to the left of the floatplane is where I live. Unfortunately, as the house is in the floatbase parking lot, there isn't any antenna space around it. What I do have is two 15 metre towers spaced about 48 metres apart that I use for my HF antenna (it used to have a company commercial HF antenna before). Any LF/MF antenna must be compact and mountable either to the house or one of the towers. Power lines are between the house and cove, which may be a noise source. Ron On Sunday 15 March 2009 16:20, Graham wrote: > I was looking on google earth ... looks to be a lot of sea planes about > .. that would prevent any high mast ?? > > the location looks a bit tricky ......a low long wire may be good .. but > can you get one out , looks to have roads all round ? > > G .. > > > From: Dave Pick > Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 5:24 PM > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: Getting started, maybe > > > Ron > > I would recommend a loop antenna, there are various designs around such as > Jim M0BMU's design, http://www.wireless.org.uk/BPloops2.pdf Even though > you're in the middle of nowhere there, you should stand a chance of getting > some of the US 500kHz stations ( www.500kc.com ) going under the calls > WD2XSH and WE2XGR with numerical suffixes identifying the individual > stations. We in the UK have 10W ERP but it won't be easy to get right over > to you... Maybe you could contact some of the US stations in the North and > do some test with them first? > > Good luck! > Dave G3YXM. > > 2009/3/14 Ron Thompson : > > I've been reading the occasional posting to the list, wondering if I > > could find some time and money to work with. As we do not yet have > > licences for the 500KHz band, the best place to start would be setting up > > for receiving. -- Ron Thompson, VE8RT Yellowknife, NT, Canada 62 28.060 N 114 20.648 W Grid Square DP22tl "Who are are these that fly as a cloud, and as doves to their window?" 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<00be01c9a66e$c8bfdbc0$0900a8c0@AM> <004a01c9a677$2a8b48a0$6401a8c0@asus> <005101c9a679$df148f50$6401a8c0@asus> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 21:03:24 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5b1f70703d8046542c865 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNSAFE,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d249.2 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --001636c5b1f70703d8046542c865 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Don't destroy your noise figure though. But at HF you can probably get away with 20 dB at least. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/3/16 Gary - G4WGT > *Andy,* > > * * > > *OK, I will insert an attenuator at the antenna socket (that=92s an easy > move) & watch how it performs. It is switched at 10dB steps so I will star= t > at 10db of course.* > > * * > > *Cheers,* > > * * > > *Gary.* > > * * > ------------------------------ > > *From:* owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto: > owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] *On Behalf Of *Andy Talbot > *Sent:* 16 March 2009 20:45 > > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > *Subject:* Re: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > Doesn't matter which - just total system gain. That S/W works best if the > noise threshold rides at about 10dB above the baseline, then it allows fo= r > up to 70 - 80dB of signal peaks. > > > Andy G4JNT > www.g4jnt.com > > 2009/3/16 Gary - G4WGT > > Alan, > > When you wrote :- > > my only comment is that you may have too much gain in the system. > > Are you meaning sound card or receiver gain? > > Gary. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Alan Melia > Sent: 16 March 2009 19:38 > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software > > Hi Gary my only comment is that you may have too much gain in the system. > It > is sometimes better to have the noise further down nearer the axis. > > I am afraid there is a major problem with this kind of beacon, when the > fading period is shorter than the sampling interval, so you dont really > know > what the path is doing. The only reliable points are the peaks, the trough= s > dont really mean anything without some very sophisticated analysis and > probably two spaced receivers. However it does give a snapshot of the band > without taking up too much bandwidth (this was what was required for 5MHz > too). Despite all the data collected very little analysis has actually be > done on the 5MHz data collected by this program. The one succesfull bit of > work was that published in Radcom by Marcis Walden G0IJZ. I used it for > some > time whilst Andy was testing the Poldhu beacon on 160m and also during the > 1st two months that ran. I was certainly surprised by the daytime path on > 160m from here. I have seen the data collected in Canada via Joe Craig > VO1NA > and it is difficult to see how to use it. > > Still if you dont collect the data you will never know!! > > Alan G3NYK > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gary - G4WGT" > To: > Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 6:35 PM > Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > Hi Graham, LF, > > > > > > > > The original HTML Code for the 2 minute refresh is still inserted into > the > > page format, so upload is 30 minute intervals with Syncback & 2 minute > > refresh. I have left the refresh in case I revert back to the original > > grabber page. I will look at changing it if I continue to use the beacon > > chart upload. > > > > > > > > I would like to have feedback from the LF group regarding the page, if > you > > check it out periodically, is it useful to you, what are you looking for= . > > > > > > > > You can view the chart on my web site at :- > > > > > > > > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html > > > > > > > > 73 > > > > > > > > Gary - G4WGT. > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham > > Sent: 16 March 2009 17:20 > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > > > > > Hi Gary, > > > > > > > > The page seemed to refresh quite often ... are there two settings ? > > > > > > > > G .. > > > > > > > > From: Gary - G4WGT > > > > Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:40 AM > > > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > > > Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > > > > > Hi Graham, LF, > > > > > > > > You wrote :- > > > > >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute > > intervals. <<< that could be backed off to 15 mins as the beacon only > > sends every 15 ?? > > > > > > > > I mentioned in my previous mail to ignore the text on the page as it was > > originally for grabber 1 for when I upgrade the web site (to a new desig= n > & > > better navigation etc), also mentioned is that upload is every 30 > minutes. > > > > > > > > If the uploaded chart proves useful or interesting to operators & viewer= s > > then I will change the text & make it a permanent feature for the > > foreseeable future. > > > > > > > > BTW :- > > > > > > > > For those of you who are not familiar with the chart - > > > > > > > > The RED trace is Andy's (G4JNT) beacon signal & the BLACK trace is the > noise > > level at my QTH. > > > > > > > > The Blue & GREEN are not in use & should be ignored on this chart as the= y > > are for the other beacons used when monitoring on the 5MHz allocation. > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > Gary - G4WGT > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham > > Sent: 15 March 2009 22:17 > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > > > > > Gary.. > > > > > > > > That looks good ... 0500 looks best time for a qso .. see you then Smil= e > > emoticon > > > > > > > > >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute > > intervals. <<< that could be backed off to 15 mins as the beacon only > > sends every 15 ?? > > > > > > > > the 15 db over the noise in day time is the same at this qth .. looks > like > > the big dips round 1900 where just when we where testing .. typical > hihi > > > > > > > > tnx- G .. > > > > > > > > From: Gary - G4WGT > > > > Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 7:55 PM > > > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > > > Subject: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > > > > > LF, > > > > > > > > I have now got the software, Syncback running correctly (I think). > > > > > > > > The purpose of this is to upload the chart from Andy's beacon as receive= d > > here to my web site periodically, ie. every 30 minutes. > > > > > > > > I now have a receiver running 24/7 monitoring Andy,s beacon on 503.7KHz.= . > > > > > > > > You can view the chart on my web site at :- > > > > > > > > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html > > > > > > > > For the moment ignore the text on the page as it is originally designed > to > > use with the 500KHz grabber when I renew my web site design. If it is a > > useful upload I will make it a permanent feature but may have to extend > the > > frequency coverage of grabber 1 so not to overload the PC with operation= s > > which will cause the PC to struggle. > > > > > > > > Let me have your comments please. > > > > > > > > 73 > > > > > > > > Gary - G4WGT. > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT > > Sent: 15 March 2009 16:10 > > To: LF -RSGB LF Group > > Subject: LF: Syncback software > > > > > > > > Hi LF, > > > > > > > > If anyone is using Syncback software & can help, please. > > > > > > > > I am tying to upload a file to my website who's filename does not change= , > > only the file size changes. I tried to do it with Argo-upload but failed > so > > I downloaded Syncback & still failing. > > > > > > > > Syncback gives me the following message :- > > > > > > > > ********************************** > > > > Can connect, but unable to change to destination directory: > > > > /chart01.bmp:not a directory > > > > ********************************** > > > > The Syncback help does not give me the answer. > > > > > > > > Any help will be appreciated > > > > > > > > Or > > > > > > > > Will Argo-Upload do it? > > > > > > > > Or > > > > > > > > Is there something else to do it? > > > > > > > > Thanks in anticipation, > > > > > > > > 73, > > > > > > > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.13/2001 - Release Date: > 03/14/09 > > 06:54:00 > > > > _____ > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.15/2003 - Release Date: > 03/15/09 > > 14:07:00 > > > > > > > > --001636c5b1f70703d8046542c865 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Don't destroy your noise figure though.=A0 But at HF you can probab= ly get away with 20 dB at least.

Andy =A0G4JNT
www= .g4jnt.com


2009/3/16 Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>

Andy,

=A0

OK, I will inse= rt an attenuator at the antenna socket (that=92s an easy move) & watch h= ow it performs. It is switched at 10dB steps so I will start at 10db of cour= se.

=A0

Cheers,<= /font>

=A0

Gary.

=A0

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_= lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf=20= Of Andy Talbot
Sent: 16 March 2009 20:45=20


To: rsgb_lf_grou= p@blacksheep.org
Subject:= Re: LF: RE: Syncback software

=A0

Doesn't matter which - just total system gain.=A0 That S/W works best i= f the noise threshold rides at about 10dB above the baseline,=A0 then it all= ows for up to 70 - 80dB of signal peaks.

<= span style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">
Andy =A0G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com

2009/3/16 Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>

Alan,

When you wrote :-

<= span style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">my only comment is that you may have too much= gain in the system.

Are you meaning sound card or receiver gain?

Gary.



-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<= /a>

[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Alan Melia
Sent= : 16 March 2009 19:38

<= span style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF= : RE: Syncback software

Hi Gary my only comment is that you may have too much gain in the system= . It
is sometimes better to have the noise further down nearer the axis..=

I am afraid there is a major problem with this kind of beacon, when=20= the
fading period is shorter than the sampling interval, so you dont really know=
what the path is doing. The only reliable points are the peaks, the trou= ghs
dont really mean anything without some very sophisticated analysis an= d
probably two spaced receivers. However it does give a snapshot of the bandwithout taking up too much bandwidth (this was what was required for 5MHz<= br>too). Despite all the data collected very little analysis has actually be=
done on the 5MHz data collected by this program. The one succesfull bit ofwork was that published in Radcom by Marcis Walden G0IJZ. I used it for so= me
time whilst Andy was testing the Poldhu beacon on 160m and also during= the
1st two months that ran. I was certainly surprised by the daytime path on160m from here. I have seen the data collected in Canada via Joe Craig VO1N= A
and it is difficult to see how to use it.

Still if you dont coll= ect the data you will never know!!

Alan G3NYK




----- Original Message -----
From: &quo= t;Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 6:35 PM
Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback softwa= re


> Hi Graham, LF,
>
>
>
> The origin= al HTML Code for the 2 minute refresh is still inserted into the
> pag= e format, so upload is 30 minute intervals with Syncback & 2 minute
> refresh. I have left the refresh in case I revert back to the original<= br>> grabber page. I will look at changing it if I continue to use the be= acon
> chart upload.
>
>
>
> I would like to h= ave feedback from the LF group regarding the page, if you
> check it out periodically, is it useful to you, what are you looking fo= r.
>
>
>
> You can view the chart on my web site at=20= :-
>
>
>
> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/g= rabber3.html
>
>
>
> 73
>
>
>
> Gary - G4WGT= .
>
>
>
>
>
> =A0 _____
>
>=20= From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham
&= gt; Sent: 16 March 2009 17:20
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software
>
>
>
>=20= Hi Gary,
>
>
>
> The page seemed to =A0refresh quite= often ... are there two settings ?
>
>
>
> G ..
>
>
>
> From: Gary - G4WGT <mailto:g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
><= br>> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:40 AM
>
> To: rsgb_lf_group@bla= cksheep.org
>
> Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software
>
>
><= br>> Hi Graham, LF,
>
>
>
> You wrote :-
><= br>> >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at=20= 2 minute
> intervals. <<< that could be backed off to =A015 mins as the b= eacon only
> sends every 15 ??
>
>
>
> I menti= oned in my previous mail to ignore the text on the page as it was
> or= iginally for grabber 1 for when I upgrade the web site (to a new design
&
> better navigation etc), also mentioned is that upload is every= 30 minutes.
>
>
>
> If the uploaded chart proves us= eful or interesting to operators & viewers
> then I will change th= e text & make it a permanent feature for the
> foreseeable future.
>
>
>
> BTW :-
>
&= gt;
>
> For those of you =A0who are not familiar with the chart=20= -
>
>
>
> The RED trace is Andy's (G4JNT) beacon= signal & the BLACK trace is the
noise
> level at my QTH.
>
>
>
> The Blue &= ; GREEN are not in use & should be ignored on this chart as they
>= are for the other beacons used when monitoring on the 5MHz allocation.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> Gary -=20= G4WGT
>
>
>
>
>
> =A0 _____
>
&= gt; From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham
&= gt; Sent: 15 March 2009 22:17
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software
>
>
>
>=20= Gary..
>
>
>
> That looks good =A0... 0500 looks bes= t time for a qso .. see you then Smile
> emoticon
>
>
>
> >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refres= h at 2 minute
> intervals. <<< that could be backed off to=20= =A015 mins as the beacon only
> sends every 15 ??
>
>
>
> the =A015 db over the noise in day time is the =A0same at this=20= qth .. looks
like
> the big dips round 1900 =A0where just when we w= here testing .. =A0typical hihi
>
>
>
> tnx- G .. >
>
>
> From: Gary - G4WGT <mailto:g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
><= br>> Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 7:55 PM
>
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksh= eep.org
>
> Subject: LF: RE: Syncback software
>
>
>
&= gt; LF,
>
>
>
> I have now got the software, Syncbac= k running correctly (I think).
>
>
>
> The purpose o= f this is to upload the chart from Andy's beacon as received
> here to my web site periodically, ie. every 30 minutes.
>
>=
>
> I now have a receiver running 24/7 monitoring Andy,s beacon= on 503.7KHz.
>
>
>
> You can view the chart on my w= eb site at :-
>
>
>
> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber= 3.html
>
>
>
> For the moment ignore the text on= the page as it is originally designed to
> use with the 500KHz grabber when I renew my web site design. If it is a=
> useful upload I will make it a permanent feature but may have to ex= tend
the
> frequency coverage of grabber 1 so not to overload the P= C with operations
> which will cause the PC to struggle.
>
>
>
> Le= t me have your comments please.
>
>
>
> 73
>>
>
> Gary - G4WGT.
>
>
>
> =A0 ___= __
>
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb= _lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT
> Sent: 15 March 2009 16:10
> To: LF -RSGB LF Group
> Subject= : LF: Syncback software
>
>
>
> Hi LF,
>
&g= t;
>
> If anyone is using Syncback software & can help, plea= se.
>
>
>
> I am tying to upload a file to my website who&#= 39;s filename does not change,
> only the file size changes. I tried t= o do it with Argo-upload but failed
so
> I downloaded Syncback &= ; still failing.
>
>
>
> Syncback gives me the following message :-
&= gt;
>
>
> **********************************
>
&g= t; Can connect, but unable to change to destination directory:
>
> /chart01.bmp:not a directory
>
> **************************= ********
>
> The Syncback help does not give me the answer.
&= gt;
>
>
> Any help will be appreciated
>
>
>
> Or
>
>
>
> Will Argo-Upload do it?
&= gt;
>
>
> Or
>
>
>
> Is there some= thing else to do it?
>
>
>
> Thanks in anticipation,=
>
>
>
> 73,
>
>
>
> Gary - G4WG= T - IO83QP.
>
>
>
> =A0 _____
>
>
>= ; No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
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> 06:54:00
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> =A0 _____
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> No vi= rus found in this incoming message.
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--001636c5b1f70703d8046542c865-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me05.mx.aol.com (rly-me05.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.39]) by air-me06.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME064-9b849cb594e2dc; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 06:30:53 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me05.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME054-9b849cb594e2dc; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 06:30:41 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LmmqK-0007kr-Bw for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 10:29:48 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LmmqJ-0007ki-WF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 10:29:48 +0000 Received: from smtp28.orange.fr ([80.12.242.99]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LmmqH-0001rH-7v for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 10:29:47 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2803.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 7A593700008F; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 11:29:37 +0100 (CET) Received: from JR (Mix-Dijon-106-2-29.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.248.129.29]) by mwinf2803.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 40D11700009B; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 11:29:36 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20090326102936265.40D11700009B@mwinf2803.orange.fr Message-ID: <200903261129150736.49E28290@smtp.wanadoo.fr> References: <631056.8814.qm@web63603.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <200903261126110002.49DFB0F1@smtp.wanadoo.fr> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (P) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 11:29:15 +0100 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, ku4xr@yahoo.com, lowfer@mailman.qth.net X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Fwd: Re: [Lowfer] New photos uploaded to MySpace - KU4XR Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=LINES_OF_YELLING, LINES_OF_YELLING_2 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Sorry, running a mix of broadband and dialup here and got addressing wrong. 73 John Rabson F5VLF 58800 Cervon France JN17vg *********** BEGIN FORWARDED MESSAGE *********** On 26/03/2009 at 11:26 John RABSON wrote: > >R, > >I would like to look at this on your PC. > >73 >J > >*********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** > >On 21/03/2009 at 21:33 Andy - KU4XR wrote: > >>Greetings all: >> >>I wanted to post this on multiple lists and sites because I'm excited >>about whatI have accomplished. I have been helping with a TA reception >>experiment forthe past week, and I'm thrilled at what my setup has been >>able to do.I have uploaded a folder to MySpace where I have posted all >>the TA receptions I have to date. Anyone interested in looking may go to >>the web address : >>http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr ::: then go to the " PICS " section and >>you will find the folder named; 600 Meters UK & EU. Browse the other >>photos if you wish. >> >>73 to all, and good DX-ing !! >> >> >>Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN. >>LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz ( QRSS-60 ) >>Coordinates: N: 35* 43' 54" - W: 84* 3' 16" >>http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr >> >> >> >>______________________________________________________________ >>Lowfer mailing list >>Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/lowfer >>Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>Post: mailto:Lowfer@mailman.qth.net >> >>This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > > > > >______________________________________________________________ >Lowfer mailing list >Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/lowfer >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >Post: mailto:Lowfer@mailman.qth.net > >This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > *********** END FORWARDED MESSAGE *********** From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (rly-dd04.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.151]) by air-dd08.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD083-b7449cd2a8017c; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 15:35:50 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD046-b7449cd2a8017c; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 15:35:32 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LnHp7-00060h-MK for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 19:34:37 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LnHp7-00060Y-9O for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 19:34:37 +0000 Received: from mout4.freenet.de ([195.4.92.94]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LnHp6-0002YO-5p for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 19:34:37 +0000 Received: from [195.4.92.14] (helo=4.mx.freenet.de) by mout4.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #76) id 1LnHo6-0000P5-Mx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 20:33:34 +0100 Received: from e177187129.adsl.alicedsl.de ([85.177.187.129]:1303 helo=[192.168.0.100]) by 4.mx.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #79) id 1LnHo6-0001Zs-59; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 20:33:34 +0100 Message-ID: <49CD2A0C.6070104@freenet.de> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 20:33:32 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Wolfgang_B=FCscher?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Lazy Man's CW made it to Venus and back Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi James, Rik, Alberto and the group, Yes an impressive distance.. even though the ERP was a bit above the usual value for amateur radio on 13 cm. AMSAT-DL has applied for, and been granted, a special permission for this experiment which expires at the end of this year. The *principle* was simple: - send a 5 minute carrier on 2.45x GHz, then - receive for 5 minutes, remove impulse noise (WLAN), run the signal through an FFT with ~11 Hz equivalent receiver bandwidth - add all received power spectra to calculate an average (*) - repeat the above until the sigma (standard deviation) in the frequency bins gets low enough to see the weak reflection in one of those bins. - while transmitting, keep the frequency constant to one or two Hz (not as easy as it sounds) - while receiving, permanently compensate the Doppler shift (which a marvellous piece of software by G3RUH did) - during the experiment, keep the dish pointed to Venus with an accuracy better than 0.1° (which another piece of software by G3RUH did) - hope that the 5-kW magnetron, and the cooling system (including a vaccum cleaner and a water cooler from a VW Polo) holds.. (*) A single FFT is not sufficient to lift the signal out of the noise. It was between 8 and 11 dB below the noise in a 10 Hz bandwidth; the ratio of to was between 0.3 and 0.4 dB; the latter measured today when it wasn't raining. This was sufficient to "see" the signal after 2 minutes, so we didn't have to average over consecutive 5-minute-receive intervals. Each dot of the "HI"-message lasted 5 minutes, because that's the approximate travelling time... in other words, "QRSS300" dictated by Venus ;-) Details, including the "Magnetron taming" circuit by DJ4ZC will appear in English language on www.amsat-dl.org hopefully soon. This vital part of the system includes 3 PLL circuits, a servo motor controller for the coarse frequency control (slow mechanical tuning, 6 MHz, on the output waveguide), and a fast controlling loop with about 1.5 MHz (iirc) loop bandwidth which involves 2 * 4CX1000 for the 'faster' frequency control, which also provides the SSB modulation. In fact, the energy not "used" for the SSB signal at a given instance is 'moved away' (spread out) by 15 kHz to both sides of the center frequency. Maybe some of these principles can be used in class-D amplifiers for other frequencies, which finally takes us back to LF / MF-related topics . Cheers, Wolf DL4YHF . James Moritz schrieb: > Dear Wolf, LF Group, > > Congratulations on an excellent achievement - I expect it has broken a > few DX records! I will be interested to hear more about how it was > done, when information becomes available. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc09.mx.aol.com (rly-dc09.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.38]) by air-dc05.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDC054-b3e49af65b5144; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 00:40:11 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc09.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC092-b3e49af65b5144; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 00:40:08 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lf6JM-0006nm-LC for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 05:40:00 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lf6JM-0006nY-2r for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 05:40:00 +0000 Received: from [194.134.42.52] (helo=smtp07.online.nl) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lf6JJ-0002X9-U2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 05:40:00 +0000 Received: from smtp07.online.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp07.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCD7F980DB for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 06:39:23 +0100 (CET) Received: from pa3fnytrqxpddu (s5593e077.adsl.wanadoo.nl [85.147.224.119]) by smtp07.online.nl (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 06:39:23 +0100 (CET) From: To: Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 05:38:27 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-Online-Scanned: by Cloudmark authority (on smtp07.online.nl) X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: RE: QRV Again on 1600m Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Congrats Joe, I will switch on the rx again, 73 Victor -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens jcraig@mun.ca Verzonden: donderdag 5 maart 2009 0:32 Aan: blacksheep Onderwerp: LF: QRV Again on 1600m Dear LF Group, The antenna wire is up again. 184.5093 kHz 10 watts 0.5 amps to 100m wire at 10m height. QRSS75 24/7 Reports most welcomed! 73 & GL Joe VO1NA From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me09.mx.aol.com (rly-me09.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.43]) by air-me03.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINME031-9da49b14e074a; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 11:23:41 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me09.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME096-9da49b14e074a; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 11:23:37 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LfcpL-0006AY-GL for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 16:23:11 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LfcpL-0006AP-4i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 16:23:11 +0000 Received: from mailout01.t-online.de ([194.25.134.80]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LfcpJ-0005iO-Fb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 16:23:11 +0000 Received: from fwd03.aul.t-online.de by mailout01.t-online.de with smtp id 1LfcpF-0006F4-06; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 17:23:05 +0100 Received: from e7010 (Tb2XPBZaYhLqEMVamoZq9dn4-cHnOrYFxixk03daEtnRTL8WyB6fjomyuIjhvnhZtp@[84.147.228.65]) by fwd03.aul.t-online.de with smtp id 1Lfcp4-2FIv8C0; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 17:22:54 +0100 Message-ID: <000a01c99e77$ce5d2f00$1402a8c0@e7010> From: "Walter und Marianne Staubach" To: Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 17:22:55 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4927.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 X-ID: Tb2XPBZaYhLqEMVamoZq9dn4-cHnOrYFxixk03daEtnRTL8WyB6fjomyuIjhvnhZtp X-TOI-MSGID: 898fbe3e-8b8c-4313-acba-ff8ffd5695dd X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: WSPR by DI2AG Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C99E80.2FE8FAD0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C99E80.2FE8FAD0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear All on MF, to complete my mail - the duty cycle will be 33%. 73 Walter DI2AG ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C99E80.2FE8FAD0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear All on MF,
       =20= to=20 complete my mail - the duty cycle will be 33%.
73    Walter DI2AG
 
------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C99E80.2FE8FAD0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc01.mx.aol.com (rly-dc01.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.30]) by air-dc07.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDC072-b0449bac0c22da; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 16:23:58 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc01.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC018-b0449bac0c22da; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 16:23:31 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LiDtu-0004nu-RW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 20:22:38 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LiDtu-0004nl-3Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 20:22:38 +0000 Received: from vms173003pub.verizon.net ([206.46.173.3]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LiDtp-0004v1-K4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 20:22:38 +0000 Received: from DR2 ([71.184.212.10]) by vms173003.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KGG00M4FOL16RZ1@vms173003.mailsrvcs.net> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 15:22:14 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <76D5267D67914AA8851C33ECCF8AA856@DR2> From: "dave.riley3" To: References: Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 16:22:11 -0500 MIME-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Multi-function beacon Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0017_01C9A3F7.DD20E560" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.1 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C9A3F7.DD20E560 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Andy, et al, re: logging program I just plugged in the G3PLX program and it is already collecting data on 529= 0... Will you be on tonight?? 503.700kc ( 502.200 usb ) ? If so I'll leave it parked on you all night with -240 seconds delay. Where do I find the logs stored when session is over?? TNX Dave @ WD2XSH/17 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Andy Talbot=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org ; uk_beacons@yahoogroups.com=20 Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 5:57 AM Subject: LF: Re: Multi-function beacon Just a reminder to all - this beacon is still going, and will probably con= tinue to do so until further notice. A few listeners have downloaded the s= oftware, and thanks to all (you know who your are :-) for the plots / listin= gs. I am not in a position to compile them, so don't expect revelations, b= ut Gerhard / DK6NI has been monitoring pretty well continuously, and has p= lotted some deep fades / enhancements measured over hours with depths in the= regions of 30dB. Are there any stations in the US in a position to monitor ? =20 Please note that if using the recommended 5meg beacon monitoring software=20= you'll either have to set the delta time to -240 (or -180 or -120) seconds o= r adjust the PC clock by two, three or four minutes to cope with the four mi= nute offset I'm running it on. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com =20 2009/3/6 Andy Talbot I've now started transmitting a timed beacon signal on 503.7kHz that is= identical in format to that of GB3SSS operated over the winter months of th= e last two years from Poldhu on 1.9 and 3.5MHz, and has a similar signal s= tructure to the 5MHz beacons, GB3RAL, WES and ORK. These all have an initia= l CW ident and stepped power levels for aural reception, and a precisely def= ined period of full-power plain carrier for S/N measurements. =20 See http://www.rsgb-spectrumforum.org.uk/5mhz%20beacons.htm for the c= omplete 5MHz signal structure. For this MF transmission, as on GB3SSS, the= pulsed sounder sequence of the 5MHz beacons is replaced with a PSK31 messag= e which lasts from 30s to approx 48 seconds after the start Auto Monitoring software writen by G3PLX is available for monitoring the= se beacons, it measures signal to noise during the carrier period and saves=20= to file as well as plotting the last 40 hours worth of measurements. The software can be downloaded from http://www.rsgb.org/spectrumforum/h= f/beaconauto.php . PSK31 data can be copied with Digipan, Fldigi, PSK31SBW= or a host of other packages. TIMING=20 The 503.7kHz transmission takes place every 15 minutes at 4 minutes past= the quarter hour. =20 ie each transmission starts at xx:04, xx:19, xx:34 and xx:49 This tim= e slot has been selected so that the transmission do not interfere with my c= ontinuous ongoing reception of the 5Mhz beacons - the active antenna used fo= r these is overloaded by the 500kHz signal and I have already lost data when= the WSPR beacon transmission coincided with one of the monitoring windows. NOTE If using the G3PLX software, this only monitors for the three 5MH= z beacons at 00, 01 and 02 minutes. SO IT WILL BE NECESSARY TO FRIG THE SOFTWARE to monitor this transmissi= on at the 04 minute point. The necessary alteration can be done by firstly= setting your PC clock accurately to the correct time, then setting the Trac= k Time box to -240 (minus 240 seconds). This will make the software look fo= r this transmission during the time window it thinks it would be receiving G= B3RAL, and log the MF transmission during the first minute, on the red trace= , as if it were GB3RAL=20 The beacon uses the identical hardware to the WSPR transmissions of the=20= last few weeks, with the the only change being a reprogramming of the contro= ller PIC. In fact the very same hardware was previously loaned to the Pold= hu club for their beacons, with the only difference being a change to the fi= nal Low Pass filter on the output of the broadband PA. ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C9A3F7.DD20E560 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Andy, et al, re: logging program=
 
I just plugged in the G3PLX program and it is al= ready=20 collecting data on 5290...
 
Will you be on tonight??   503.700kc&n= bsp; (=20 502.200 usb ) ?
 
If so I'll leave it parked on you all night with= -240=20 seconds delay.
 
Where do I find the logs stored when session is=20 over??
 
TNX
 
Dave @ WD2XSH/17
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Andy Talbot
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 5:57=20 AM
Subject: LF: Re: Multi-function=20 beacon

Just a reminder to all - this beacon is still going, and will probabl= y=20 continue to do so until further notice.   A few listeners have=20 downloaded the software, and thanks to all (you know who your are :-) for=20= the=20 plots / listings.   I am not in a position to compile them, so d= on't=20 expect revelations, but Gerhard  /  DK6NI has been monitoring pr= etty=20 well continuously, and has plotted some deep fades / enhancement= s=20 measured over hours with depths in the regions of 30dB.
 
Are there any stations in the US in a position to monitor=20 ?  
 
Please note that if using the recommended 5meg beacon monitoring soft= ware=20 you'll either have to set the delta time to -240 (or -180 or -120) seconds= or=20 adjust the PC clock by two, three or four minutes to cope with the four mi= nute=20 offset I'm running it on.
 
Andy  G4JNT
2009/3/6 Andy Talbot <andy.g4jnt@goog= lemail.com>
I've now started transmitting a timed  beacon signal on=20 503.7kHz that is identical in format to that of GB3SSS operated ove= r=20 the winter months of the last two years  from Poldhu on 1.9 an= d=20 3.5MHz,  and has a similar signal structure to the 5MHz beacon= s,=20 GB3RAL, WES and ORK.  These all have an initial CW ident=20 and stepped power levels for aural reception, and a precisely=20 defined period of full-power plain carrier for S/N=20 measurements.  
See   http://www.rsgb-spectrumforum.o= rg.uk/5mhz%20beacons.htm =20 for the complete 5MHz  signal structure.  For this MF=20 transmission, as on GB3SSS, the pulsed sounder sequence of the 5MHz beac= ons=20 is replaced with a PSK31 message which lasts from 30s to approx 48=20 seconds after the start
 
Auto Monitoring software writen by G3PLX is available for monitorin= g=20 these beacons, it measures signal to noise during the carrier period and= =20 saves to file as well as plotting the last 40 hours worth of=20 measurements.
The software can be downloaded from  http://ww= w.rsgb.org/spectrumforum/hf/beaconauto.php .  =20 PSK31 data can be copied with Digipan, Fldigi, PSK31SBW or a host of oth= er=20 packages.
 
TIMING
The 503.7kHz transmission takes place every 15 minutes at 4 minutes= =20 past the quarter hour. 
ie each transmission starts at xx:04, xx:19, xx:34 and= =20 xx:49    This time slot has been selected s= o=20 that the transmission do not interfere with my continuous ongoing recept= ion=20 of the 5Mhz beacons - the active antenna used for these is overloaded by= the=20 500kHz signal and I have already lost data when the WSPR beacon transmis= sion=20 coincided with one of the monitoring windows.
 
NOTE   If using the G3PLX software, this=20 only monitors for the three 5MHz beacons at  00, 01 and 02=20 minutes.
SO IT WILL BE NECESSARY TO FRIG THE SOFTWARE=20  to monitor this transmission at the 04 minute=20 point.   The necessary alteration can be done by firstly=20 setting your PC clock accurately to the correct time, then setting=20= the=20 Track Time box to -240 (minus 240 seconds).  This will make the=20 software look for this transmission during the time window it think= s it=20 would be receiving GB3RAL, and log the MF transmission during the f= irst=20 minute, on the red trace, as if it were GB3RAL 
 
The beacon uses the identical hardware to the WSPR transmissio= ns=20 of the last few weeks, with the the only change being=20 a reprogramming of the controller PIC.   In fact the very= =20 same hardware was previously loaned to the Poldhu club for their beacons= ,=20 with the only difference being a change to the final Low Pass filter on=20= the=20 output of the broadband PA.
 

------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C9A3F7.DD20E560-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de12.mx.aol.com (rly-de12.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.148]) by air-de02.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDE023-52049ca56161d4; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 12:04:53 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de12.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE127-52049ca56161d4; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 12:04:40 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LmVaE-0000j0-Sv for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 16:04:02 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LmVaE-0000ir-GO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 16:04:02 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-4-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.55]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LmVaC-0005Kj-8l for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 16:04:02 +0000 X-Trace: 168652841/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.79.140/None/g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.79.140 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Microsoft Office Outlook 11Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AsYEAFfyyUlYak+M/2dsb2JhbACDJ0OGPoNrxFIHg24G X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,419,1233532800"; d="scan'208";a="168652841" Received: from 88-106-79-140.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.79.140]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 25 Mar 2009 16:03:58 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <86B4F549F8F247DDA470143B3BE77364@Hugh> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 16:03:58 -0000 Message-ID: <008c01c9ad63$4e9a9190$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 In-Reply-To: <86B4F549F8F247DDA470143B3BE77364@Hugh> Thread-Index: AcmtWxCqHzXqqxfPR2ShD6cf3pvn0AAB5ugg X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: RE: Re: TDA2003, TDA2030 for PA? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Petr, I have tested a TDA2030 for a 500KHz driver & is OK for 136KHz as other authors have stated. It does fall off very rapidly from 200KHz & higher & is of no use at 500KHz. 73 Gary - G4WGT. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Hugh_m0wye Sent: 25 March 2009 15:01 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: TDA2003, TDA2030 for PA? I successfully made a TDA2030 amplifier which i used for all my intial=20 experimenting on 137kHz Photo http://www.m0wye.radiouk.com/lfamp.jpg The data sheet for this IC claims a bandwidth of 140kHz so it won't work on=20 500kHz. I think I got about 6Watts out. Not all the audio ICs have as much bandwidth as this. You need a matching circuit on the output to convert the low impedance of=20 the amp to 50 ohms - or whatever your antenna system uses. 73 Hugh M0WYE ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Petr Mal=FD" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 1:38 PM Subject: LF: TDA2003, TDA2030 for PA? Hi all, My intention is to build a small transmitter up to some 10W for 136 and 505=20 kHz, this time not the D class, but B or AB class. I think of employing AF amplifiers such as TDA2003, TDA2030, or similar. Of=20 course, mainly 505 kHz is rather out of range so that nothing is guaranteed. This is why I ask before experimenting. Did anybody try to use these for 136/505 kHz? Tks, 73, Petr, OK!FIG http://ok1fig.nagano.cz From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md07.mx.aol.com (rly-md07.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.145]) by air-md10.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD102-91149c6b6cd3a9; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 18:08:21 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md07.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD071-91149c6b6cd3a9; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 18:08:16 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LlVp6-0007GZ-3T for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 22:07:16 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LlVp5-0007GQ-NU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 22:07:15 +0000 Received: from smtp811.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.71]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LlVp3-0005de-Fm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 22:07:15 +0000 Received: (qmail 45945 invoked from network); 22 Mar 2009 22:07:06 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:Importance:In-Reply-To; b=HIUZh3Z4JOMj+k1WShUrbZPPfb4tI2lyayV8gG9R5jhbT40qG+n09PME78/ZD+0RFmNZGVj9XUub/dJ2uK1CrTMFlnFin7wyK27fAQgfnVPkJ8cfOGVlRoy9AfSO9+hy2/mJtp/ryTqA5Ko6bcf8LmsdRtX+dYkeJ3FnZyOkApk= ; Received: from unknown (HELO aquarids) (ganymede444@81.151.248.45 with login) by smtp811.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Mar 2009 22:07:05 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: aicePkkVM1nIqDYNRbdowSa.YQ2II684VzAEI_X0N4OSo52qee012OPRjso81wsasgPdXaMy7iVjZBNDQKIdCceb_Ujc8XtkThdX71_MBRO9V4lxhJSnlPPrkcbNms8AQE7o_dLSMl0nBGBhbTW8Yccb2i8g7wvFmnDh_672h4HX_LMzVUP6u2rfnbFOL8zi9ZNNnV_tlCrWWuIGoVd5WaCjzUNhIlTHiUdxKDeUlfVHY3aAl11N46tvZ6tr9zA- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 From: "Dave G3WCB" To: Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 22:07:11 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <49C508C1.22893.5ECE72@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: RE: 136kHz activity 21 March [G3MFW] Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01C9AB3A.8C9AD520" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C9AB3A.8C9AD520 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit LF, Congratulations to Harry G3MFW for putting a very strong signal into IO91RM. Screenshot attached. Mike G3XDV also captured on the screenshot. Signal strengths measured on my "Tee" antenna with the SPM-30 as follows:- G3XDV -42 dBm G3MFW -61 dBm F6BWO -70 dBm F4DTL -73 dBm Noise floor -80 dBm in 24 Hz bandwidth 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor, SE England -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Mike Dennison Sent: 21 March 2009 15:33 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: 136kHz activity 21 March Thanks to Harry, G3MFW, activity was fairly high on the 136kHz band this morning. I had QRSS3 QSOs with G3MFW, F6BWO and F4DTL, and saw part of the transmission of OE5ODL. Well done Harry. 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2009 18:11:25 +0100 Received: from www9.emo.freenet-rz.de ([194.97.107.202]:55407) by 1.mx.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID exim) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #79) id 1Lmt6z-0001PM-3R; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 18:11:25 +0100 Received: from www-data by www9.emo.freenet-rz.de with local (Exim 4.67 1 (Panther_1)) id 1Lmt6x-0006qT-De; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 18:11:23 +0100 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: dl4yhf@freenet.de X-Priority: 3 X-Abuse: 505770703 / 87.183.136.192 User-Agent: freenetMail MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 18:11:23 +0100 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 2.1 (++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=0.627,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_SHORT_LINK_IMG_2=0.951,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: Lazy Man's CW made it to Venus and back Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=b_01_08aa7d2c8388e3408bfacad0f6110d31 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_12, HTML_MESSAGE,NO_REAL_NAME,PRIORITY_NO_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --b_01_08aa7d2c8388e3408bfacad0f6110d31 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MessageGreetings everyone,

Not really LF, b= ut QRSS...

A group of radio amateurs from AMSAT-DL has successfully t= ransmitted a (very short) message in QRSS, consisting of the two letters "HI= " (im memoriam of old OSCARS) to Venus on 2.4 GHz, and received the reflecti= on.
Each TX/RX over lasted for about 5 minutes (the travelling time). The= transmitter was a 5 kW magnetron disciplined to a narrow-band transmitter.=20= Details on the AMSAT-DL website. The German HR TV will send a documentation=20= tonight at 19:30 (local). The EVE (Earth-Venus-Earth) details follow tomorro= w on Hessischer Rundfunk.

73,
 Wolf DL4YHF
  (from th= e IUZ in Bochum)

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=20 --b_01_08aa7d2c8388e3408bfacad0f6110d31 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Greetings everyone, Not really LF, but QRSS... A group of radio amateurs from AMSAT-DL has successfully transmitted a (very= short) message in QRSS, consisting of the two letters "HI" (im memoriam of=20= old OSCARS) to Venus on 2.4 GHz, and received the reflection. Each TX/RX over lasted for about 5 minutes (the travelling time). The transm= itter was a 5 kW magnetron disciplined to a narrow-band transmitter. Details= on the AMSAT-DL website. The German HR TV will send a documentation tonight= at 19:30 (local). The EVE (Earth-Venus-Earth) details follow tomorrow on He= ssischer Rundfunk. 73, Wolf DL4YHF (from the IUZ in Bochum) #adBox3 {display:none;} --b_01_08aa7d2c8388e3408bfacad0f6110d31-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (rly-dd04.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.151]) by air-dd07.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD072-b7549cd541d48; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 18:33:05 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD047-b7549cd541d48; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 18:33:02 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LnKai-0007Lm-ML for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 22:31:56 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LnKai-0007Ld-7v for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 22:31:56 +0000 Received: from smtp3.citigroup.com ([199.67.203.181] helo=mail.citigroup.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LnKah-0003Zp-7N for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; 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charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Subject: LF: RU6LA calling CQ on 137.700KHz X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) SGVsbG8sDQpJIGNvcHkgUlU2TEEgb24gMTM3LjcwMEtIeiBjYWxsaW5nIENxIGluIFFSU1Mz IQ0KDQpWeTczDQpNYXJjbw0KREQ3UEMNCg0K From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db03.mx.aol.com (rly-db03.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.78]) by air-db06.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDB063-ab549bd39f6236; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 13:25:18 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db03.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB033-ab549bd39f6236; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 13:25:13 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Liu4j-0007eY-IY for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 17:24:37 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Liu4j-0007eP-3X for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 17:24:37 +0000 Received: from mail-ew0-f161.google.com ([209.85.219.161]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Liu4g-0000Dd-UG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 17:24:37 +0000 Received: by ewy5 with SMTP id 5so3793866ewy.4 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 10:24:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=4SW01INcIk0SATSey9u0/SzrMkTo2X61IiE8p2jou3I=; b=IMTKcgCEQtwUHnJRYCp+ggj250uU7+E8tcJ4aoc3CSFKCBA828NPFt60JZh/ITZgW7 XWDxWtUURzX2+KwBSkWRq5Um6a5zdKh2/SjP8lBrHgeFCFV/yMl/4pYu7gyEa7DXfZmo lNz6k3eZlKiFjgQk98FtDC1nPCjWaJv6lZbnU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=QJhJjcicLXT7pbqrrpMVgPMln29mpm4ZKDky38Z1AARAvgNWDOiqgaWyqe7sXeeVDK PjLbmhWdsjKRb6+Bnun83jJBmpw3tCuMBNaf49elAPMLVaJYMj4993bb6AFHjf+k4+Bn lN+IcSbDk4bAhxJAAf+olyJBjZW+vkNGKzL1w= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.29.213 with SMTP id i63mr1511845wea.90.1237137867526; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 10:24:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <200903141634.37933.ve8rt@xplornet.com> References: <200903141634.37933.ve8rt@xplornet.com> Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 17:24:27 +0000 Message-ID: <8bf118410903151024k69053f8cs345c4673ad93deec@mail.gmail.com> From: Dave Pick To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Getting started, maybe Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6db61c021d27504652b9be4 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d244.2 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --0016e6db61c021d27504652b9be4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ron I would recommend a loop antenna, there are various designs around such as Jim M0BMU's design, http://www.wireless.org.uk/BPloops2.pdf Even though you're in the middle of nowhere there, you should stand a chance of getting some of the US 500kHz stations ( www.500kc.com ) going under the calls WD2XSH and WE2XGR with numerical suffixes identifying the individual stations. We in the UK have 10W ERP but it won't be easy to get right over to you... Maybe you could contact some of the US stations in the North and do some test with them first? Good luck! Dave G3YXM. 2009/3/14 Ron Thompson : > I've been reading the occasional posting to the list, wondering if I could > find some time and money to work with. As we do not yet have licences for > the 500KHz band, the best place to start would be setting up for receiving. -- G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK --0016e6db61c021d27504652b9be4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ron

I would recommend a loop antenna, there are various designs arou= nd such as Jim M0BMU's design, http://www.wireless.org.uk/BPloops2.pdf
Even though you= 9;re in the middle of nowhere there, you should stand a chance of getting so= me of the US 500kHz stations ( www.500kc.co= m ) going under the calls WD2XSH and WE2XGR with numerical suffixes iden= tifying the individual stations.
We in the UK have 10W ERP but it won't be easy to get right over to you.= ...
Maybe you could contact some of the US stations in the North and do s= ome test with them first?

Good luck!
Dave G3YXM.

2009/3/14=20= Ron Thompson <ve8rt@xplornet.com>:
> =A0 I've been reading the occasional posting to the list, wondering= if I could
> find some time and money to work with. =A0As we do not y= et have licences for
> the 500KHz band, the best place to start would=20= be setting up for receiving.




--
G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK

--0016e6db61c021d27504652b9be4-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db09.mx.aol.com (rly-db09.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.84]) by air-db02.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB021-aea49cfab12148; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 13:08:45 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db09.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB098-aea49cfab12148; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 13:08:36 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LnyU4-0003mY-G7 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 18:07:44 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LnyU4-0003mP-3W for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 18:07:44 +0100 Received: from mailout09.t-online.de ([194.25.134.84]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LnyU2-0002Wo-1I for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 18:07:44 +0100 Received: from fwd09.aul.t-online.de by mailout09.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 1LnyTx-0002nQ-06; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 19:07:37 +0200 Received: from e7010 (JT5fkOZdYh86fSmJ0NvwLvJb6Pt2JWy3h0iY3pJJ3GqvNx61FoJCOxK2EH5+ukAwHS@[84.147.199.15]) by fwd09.aul.t-online.de with smtp id 1LnyTi-0wXUWm0; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 19:07:22 +0200 Message-ID: <002601c9b090$d1c704b0$1402a8c0@e7010> From: "Walter und Marianne Staubach" To: Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 19:07:19 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4927.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 X-ID: JT5fkOZdYh86fSmJ0NvwLvJb6Pt2JWy3h0iY3pJJ3GqvNx61FoJCOxK2EH5+ukAwHS X-TOI-MSGID: 55ec6053-5348-44a3-9397-565edadc372f X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: DI2AG WSPR QRO Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0023_01C9B0A1.9515D8F0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01C9B0A1.9515D8F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear All on MF, heave just increased the power of DI2AG to 2W ERP and will run th= e beacon this way until tomorrow morning - if the equipment agrees. 73 Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01C9B0A1.9515D8F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear All on MF,
       =    heave just=20 increased the power of DI2AG  to 2W ERP and will run the beacon this wa= y=20 until tomorrow morning - if the equipment agrees.
73   Walter  DI2AG /=20 DJ2LF
 
------=_NextPart_000_0023_01C9B0A1.9515D8F0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me02.mx.aol.com (rly-me02.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.35]) by air-me05.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINME052-99e49c1796f56; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 18:45:15 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me02.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME022-99e49c1796f56; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 18:45:05 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lk4VI-0004xe-JV for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 22:44:52 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lk4VI-0004xV-5D for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 22:44:52 +0000 Received: from imo-d21.mx.aol.com ([205.188.144.207]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lk4VF-0004iJ-Dh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 22:44:52 +0000 Received: from F4DTL@aol.com by imo-d21.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id l.c4f.43f03e68 (65098) for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 18:44:33 -0400 (EDT) From: F4DTL@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 18:44:35 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5029 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: DD7PC beacon Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_c4f.43f03e68.36f2d353_boundary" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --part1_c4f.43f03e68.36f2d353_boundary Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1237416274" -------------------------------1237416274 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Very nice this evening Marco. F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP RX : Icom IC7400 Ant: LF vertical antenna _http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/_ (http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/) -------------------------------1237416274 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Very nice this evening Marco.
 
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--part1_c4f.43f03e68.36f2d353_boundary-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (rly-dd04.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.151]) by air-dd05.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDD053-b7049bd7f4c23e; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 18:21:16 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD042-b7049bd7f4c23e; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 18:21:02 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LiyhU-0000jL-KC for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 22:20:56 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LiyhU-0000jB-37 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 22:20:56 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.151] helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LiyhR-00038Q-Lq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 22:20:56 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3524.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 1FAEF1C00086 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 23:20:48 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.110.65.135]) by mwinf3524.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id CC6EF1C00085 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 23:20:47 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20090315222047837.CC6EF1C00085@mwinf3524.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: References: <200903141634.37933.ve8rt@xplornet.com> <8bf118410903151024k69053f8cs345c4673ad93deec@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8bf118410903151024k69053f8cs345c4673ad93deec@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 22:20:47 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8064.206 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8064.206 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Getting started, maybe Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00DD_01C9A5BC.4A1C1980" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_00DD_01C9A5BC.4A1C1980 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was looking on google earth ... looks to be a lot of sea planes about ..= that would prevent any high mast ?? the location looks a bit tricky ......a low long wire may be good .. but c= an you get one out , looks to have roads all round ? G ..=20 From: Dave Pick=20 Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 5:24 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: Getting started, maybe Ron=20 I would recommend a loop antenna, there are various designs around such as J= im M0BMU's design, http://www.wireless.org.uk/BPloops2.pdf Even though you're in the middle of nowhere there, you should stand a chance= of getting some of the US 500kHz stations ( www.500kc.com ) going under the= calls WD2XSH and WE2XGR with numerical suffixes identifying the individual=20= stations. We in the UK have 10W ERP but it won't be easy to get right over to you... Maybe you could contact some of the US stations in the North and do some tes= t with them first? Good luck! Dave G3YXM. 2009/3/14 Ron Thompson : > I've been reading the occasional posting to the list, wondering if I cou= ld > find some time and money to work with. As we do not yet have licences for > the 500KHz band, the best place to start would be setting up for receiving= . --=20 G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.13/2001 - Release Date: 03/14/09 0= 6:54:00 ------=_NextPart_000_00DD_01C9A5BC.4A1C1980 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I was looking on google earth ... looks to=20= be a=20 lot  of  sea planes about .. that would prevent any high mast=20 ??
 
the  location looks a bit tricky .....= ..a low=20 long wire may be good .. but  can you  get one out , looks to have= =20 roads all round ?
 
G ..

Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 5:24 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Getting started, maybe

Ron

I would recommend a loop antenna, there are vario= us=20 designs around such as Jim M0BMU's design, http://www.wireless.org.uk/BPloops2.pdf
Even=20 though you're in the middle of nowhere there, you should stand a chance of=20 getting some of the US 500kHz stations ( = www.500kc.com ) going under the calls WD2XSH and=20 WE2XGR with numerical suffixes identifying the individual stations.
We in= the=20 UK have 10W ERP but it won't be easy to get right over to you...
Maybe yo= u=20 could contact some of the US stations in the North and do some test with the= m=20 first?

Good luck!
Dave G3YXM.

2009/3/14 Ron Thompson <ve8rt@xplornet.com>:
> &n= bsp; I've=20 been reading the occasional posting to the list, wondering if I could
>= ;=20 find some time and money to work with.  As we do not yet have licences=20 for
> the 500KHz band, the best place to start would be setting up for= =20 receiving.




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YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 23:25:13 +0000 (GMT) From: M0FMT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Re: Fw: Re: LF: energy saving bulbs Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1383344330-1236641113=:21340" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d279.1 ; domain : yahoo.co.uk DKIM : pass --0-1383344330-1236641113=:21340 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Wolfgang =A0 You are probably right and thanks for the information. You probably noticed=20= the "deliberate" mistake in the Diode numbers also ..... remind me to check=20= the spread sheet after I paint and drag a line of data ..hee hee. =A0 The reflector doesn't allow very big attachments so=A0I will send you the= =A0pictures directly. It looks exactly like the one on the site of the URL b= elow.=A0 =A0 I am sure that there is a rig in that line up of parts ... energy saving lam= ps can't be all bad news can they? =A0 Well thanks for the reply and GL 73 Pete fmt. --- On Mon, 9/3/09, Wolfgang B=FCscher wrote: From: Wolfgang B=FCscher Subject: Re: Fw: Re: LF: energy saving bulbs To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Monday, 9 March, 2009, 7:35 PM Hi Pete, Thanks for the 'forensic analysis'. I am tempted to build a high-voltage QRP= transmitter from one of these beasts ;-) Sure that "DK51" is a unijunction transistor ? I found a french site (in fre= nch language) which seems to say that the DK51 is more or less compatible wi= th an MJE13001, which is a 600 Volt, 0.2 A silicon NPN transistor. Looking a= t the circuit, it seems to make sense: http://pagesperso-orange.fr/doumai/Clartec_Lampe/Clartec_Lampe_8W.htm Cheers, Wolf=A0 DL4YHF . =20 --0-1383344330-1236641113=:21340 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <= /tr>
Hi Wolfgang
 
You are probably right and thanks for the information. You probably not= iced the "deliberate" mistake in the Diode numbers also ..... remind me to c= heck the spread sheet after I paint and drag a line of data ..hee hee.
 
The reflector doesn't allow very big attachments so I will send yo= u the pictures directly. It looks exactly like the one on the site of t= he URL below. 
 
I am sure that there is a rig in that line up of parts ... energy savin= g lamps can't be all bad news can they?
 
Well thanks for the reply and GL 73 Pete fmt.

--- On Mon, 9/3= /09, Wolfgang B=FCscher <dl4yhf@freenet.de> wrote:

From: Wolfgang B=FCscher <dl4yhf@freenet.de><= BR>Subject: Re: Fw: Re: LF: energy saving bulbs
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksh= eep.org
Date: Monday, 9 March, 2009, 7:35 PM

Hi Pete,
Thanks for the 'forensic analysis'. I am=20= tempted to build a high-voltage QRP transmitter from one of these beasts ;-)=

Sure that "DK51" is a unijunction transistor ? I found a french site= (in french language) which seems to say that the DK51 is more or less compa= tible with an MJE13001, which is a 600 Volt, 0.2 A silicon NPN transistor. L= ooking at the circuit, it seems to make sense:

= http://pagesperso-orange.fr/doumai/Clartec_Lampe/Clartec_Lampe_8W.htm
Cheers,
Wolf  DL4YHF .




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Hi lf,
strong signal 137khz
henny pa3cpm
73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
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(rly-dd05.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.152]) by air-dd06.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDD062-b7d49aae6b11; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 14:49:20 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd05.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD057-b7d49aae6b11; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 14:49:06 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ldree-0007ps-Ja for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 19:48:52 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ldree-0007pj-7T for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 19:48:52 +0000 Received: from mailout.toya.net.pl ([217.113.224.27] ident=postfix) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ldred-0004ZD-Db for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 19:48:52 +0000 Received: from localhost (unknown [192.168.120.26]) by lazir.toya.net.pl (TOYAnet MailServer) with ESMTP id 40DDE8C241 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 20:48:49 +0100 (CET) X-TOYA-AV: AntyVir-Skaner at toya.net.pl Received: from lazir.toya.net.pl ([192.168.120.25]) by localhost (antyvir.toya.net.pl [192.168.120.26]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fBRiA8xDZN2e for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 20:48:49 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.11.178.152] (lazir [217.113.224.3]) (Authenticated sender: unimlyn) by lazir.toya.net.pl (TOYAnet MailServer) with ESMTP id ECCA88C215 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 20:48:48 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <49AAE6A1.6070104@toya.net.pl> Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 20:48:49 +0100 From: =?UTF-8?B?UGlvdHIgTcWCeW5hcnNraQ==?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,SUBJ_HAS_SPACES=0.651 Subject: Re: LF: Wanted - non-random PN sequence generator - so Off Topic it shouldn't be allowed here! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=SUBJ_HAS_SPACES autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Andy Talbot wrote: >........ >Before I cop-out and just use a pre-generated set of lookup tables, >take a look at http://www.g4jnt.com/WSPR_PN_Sequence.pdf >for a fuller description of the mind-bender > > >Andy G4JNT >www.g4jnt.com > > > Dear Andy, during this weekend i had a free time and i have looked into this random/non-random sequence of wspr tx'ing... are you still interested in this issue? - i just 'played' a little with rnd generator along with the duty cycle of wspr beaconing. i managed to write a short program generating the tx sequence with the restrictions you've mentioned i.e no more than 2 consecutive tx periods and no more than a specified number of rx periods etc.. ( of course, with no cheating.. hihi) if yes, pse let me know so possibly further e-mails could be exchanged directly ... 73 de peter, sq7mpj qth: lodz, poland /jo91rs/ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh06.mx.aol.com (rly-mh06.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.142]) by air-mh03.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMH034-be049abb212312; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 05:16:58 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH068-be049abb212312; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 05:16:52 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Le5CM-0000Qk-HN for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 10:16:34 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Le5CM-0000Qb-67 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 10:16:34 +0000 Received: from blu0-omc1-s4.blu0.hotmail.com ([65.55.116.15]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Le5CK-00036x-Lq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 10:16:34 +0000 Received: from BLU146-W33 ([65.55.116.8]) by blu0-omc1-s4.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 2 Mar 2009 02:16:26 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [117.12.235.42] From: Laurence BY3A-KL1X China To: Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 01:16:26 -0900 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Mar 2009 10:16:26.0529 (UTC) FILETIME=[F220B110:01C99B1F] X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_28d1afa0-b9ea-4cf0-b2af-22242394de33_" Subject: LF: 137.777 -779 window X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_28d1afa0-b9ea-4cf0-b2af-22242394de33_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 At the request of our Russian friends Im running the grabber in the above wi= ndow at dot 120 slow - Conditions are much quieter QRN wise tonight and hope= fully the signals will be as strong tonight giving a better s/n here. =20 Ill be running this till my dawn at around 2300Z maybe earlier. =20 Any new on any VK/ZL operations? Would be an excellent wateryish path from h= ere. =20 With thanks Laurence KL1 X in BY3A area OM89 Grabber http://kl1x.com/dx00000.jpg.com _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail=AE is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast.=20 http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=3DTXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_70faster_032009= =3D --_28d1afa0-b9ea-4cf0-b2af-22242394de33_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable  
At the request of our Russian friends Im running the grabber in the above wi= ndow at dot 120 slow - Conditions are much quieter QRN wise tonight and hope= fully the signals will be as strong tonight giving a better s/n here.
 
 Ill be running this till my dawn at around 2300Z maybe earlier.
 
Any new on any VK/ZL operations? Would be an excellent wateryish path from h= ere.
 
With thanks
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Hotmail=AE is up to 70% faster. Now good news tra= vels really fast. Find out more. =3D --_28d1afa0-b9ea-4cf0-b2af-22242394de33_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd06.mx.aol.com (rly-dd06.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.153]) by air-dd06.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDD061-b8349c38c783b8; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 08:31:07 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd06.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD065-b8349c38c783b8; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 08:30:50 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LkdrM-00034S-ER for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 12:30:00 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LkdrL-00034J-Si for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 12:29:59 +0000 Received: from imo-m13.mx.aol.com ([64.12.143.101] helo=imo-m13.mail.aol.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LkdrJ-0006o9-L5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 12:29:59 +0000 Received: from F4DTL@aol.com by imo-m13.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id l.d40.3a49fd24 (34990) for ; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 08:28:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtprly-da03.mx.aol.com (smtprly-da03.mx.aol.com [205.188.249.146]) by cia-db01.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILCIADB013-5bbe49c38bf932c; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 08:28:45 -0500 Received: from MBLK-M12 (mblk-m12.mblk.aol.com [64.12.136.45]) by smtprly-da03.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYDA035-5bbe49c38bf932c; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 08:28:41 -0400 References: <5931f8db0903200019t15b9a653ua1f46367492d0ec6@mail.gmail.com> <49C36256.29572.48E172A@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 08:28:41 -0400 In-Reply-To: <49C36256.29572.48E172A@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: f4dtl@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL WebMail 41921 - STANDARD Received: from 90.95.53.227 by MBLK-M12.sysops.aol.com (64.12.136.45) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Fri, 20 Mar 2009 08:28:41 -0400 Message-Id: <8CB776E898B2B6D-1240-1733@MBLK-M12.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_AOL_TAGS=0.281,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: Re : LF: 137 KHz reports please Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CB776E8992526F_1240_2F97_MBLK-M12.sysops.aol.com" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_AOL_TAGS,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ----------MB_8CB776E8992526F_1240_2F97_MBLK-M12.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hello Harry, i hope a contact with you saturday. F4DTL Nicolas > If I manage to get my temporary mast up in the wind, I hope to > transmit CQ tomorrow morning Saturday 21st March with QRSS3 on 137.68 > KHz. Running 825 watts input to Decca Tx which was scrapped from the > Isles of Scilly, to a 230 feet long Marconi T, 30 feet up. Earth is a > disused iron water main about 5 miles long. Rx is lazy loop. QTH is at > Porthpean, IO 70 OH, on the cliffs looking out to sea to the east. > Reports most welcome, but I am 79 and struggling! Please be patient! > Harry G3MFW > ________________________________________________________________________ Re?evez AOL Mail sur votre t?l?phone. Vos e-mails accessibles ? tout moment! Cr?ez un e-mail gratuit aujourd?hui. ----------MB_8CB776E8992526F_1240_2F97_MBLK-M12.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Hello Harry, i hope a contact with you saturday.

F4DTL Nicolas




> If I manage to get my temporary mast up in the wind, I hope to
> transmit CQ tomorrow morning Saturday 21st March with QRSS3 on 137.68
> KHz. Running 825 watts input to Decca Tx which was scrapped from the
> Isles of Scilly, to a 230 feet long Marconi T, 30 feet up. Earth is a
> disused iron water main about 5 miles long. Rx is lazy loop. QTH is at
> Porthpean, IO 70 OH, on the cliffs looking out to sea to the east.
> Reports most welcome, but I am 79 and struggling! Please be patient!
>                 Harry G3MFW
>


----------MB_8CB776E8992526F_1240_2F97_MBLK-M12.sysops.aol.com-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc07.mx.aol.com (rly-dc07.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.36]) by air-dc05.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDC051-b3149aa61df12f; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 05:22:41 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc07.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC075-b3149aa61df12f; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 05:22:24 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ldio1-0000D4-FZ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 10:21:57 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ldio1-0000Cr-4W for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 10:21:57 +0000 Received: from ttsmtp-1.cpwnetworks.com ([62.24.128.242] helo=ttsmtp.cpwnetworks.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ldio0-00054W-DM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 10:21:57 +0000 X-Path: TalkTalk-smtp X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuEHAB/wqUlOlART/2dsb2JhbACCMCuBZIcVBssthBoG Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.148.4.83]) by ttsmtp.cpwnetworks.com with SMTP; 01 Mar 2009 10:21:50 +0000 Message-ID: <002d01c99a57$88cdc9f0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 10:21:49 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 137 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002A_01C99A57.8877E1C0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_002A_01C99A57.8877E1C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable DK4U and I5TGC observed this morning on 137.7 de g3kev ------=_NextPart_000_002A_01C99A57.8877E1C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
DK4U and I5TGC observed this morning on=20 137.7
de g3kev
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_002A_01C99A57.8877E1C0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db07.mx.aol.com (rly-db07.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.82]) by air-db09.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDB091-ad849c16ea310b; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 17:59:02 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db07.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB076-ad849c16ea310b; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 17:59:01 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lk3mc-0004NL-BI for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:58:42 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lk3mb-0004NC-W0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:58:41 +0000 Received: from que11.charter.net ([209.225.8.21]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lk3mY-0001ib-Mb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:58:41 +0000 Received: from imp09 ([10.20.200.9]) by mta11.charter.net (InterMail vM.7.09.01.00 201-2219-108-20080618) with ESMTP id <20090318215219.LZHD21265.mta11.charter.net@imp09> for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 17:52:19 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.2] ([68.116.200.100]) by imp09 with charter.net id UlsK1b00J2AU2w405lsKMT; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 17:52:19 -0400 Message-ID: <49C16D13.6050204@charter.net> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 17:52:19 -0400 From: John Andrews User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Ti3 wspr 507.00 tonight and qrss 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) L, I'll try to get an hour or two in, but probably not until 0100 UTC. Will shoot for 1500 Hz = 508.500. John,W1TAG Laurence BY3A-KL1X China wrote: > > Will be "listening" 507 dial wspr and qrss 3 slow 507.000 -507.170 > tonight from my dusk till dawn. > > nominations for modes and freqs near 505 et al for tomorrow welcomed. > > > Laurence ti3/ kl 1 x > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Windows Live™ Groups: Create an online spot for your favorite groups to > meet. Check it out. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.18/2009 - Release Date: 03/18/09 07:17:00 > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf02.mx.aol.com (rly-mf02.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.172]) by air-mf06.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMF063-94549cc346f268; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 22:05:42 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf02.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF023-94549cc346f268; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 22:05:36 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ln1R8-0006fF-I6 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 02:04:46 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ln1R8-0006f6-6d for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 02:04:46 +0000 Received: from vms173003pub.verizon.net ([206.46.173.3]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ln1R6-00068v-4U for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 02:04:46 +0000 Received: from DR2 ([71.184.212.10]) by vms173003.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KH5002SJ73F0Z7H@vms173003.mailsrvcs.net> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 21:04:28 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <7836F4A197B6454CA99D80AAA8086674@DR2> From: "dave.riley3" To: References: Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 22:04:26 -0400 MIME-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: WSPR Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_009F_01C9AE5E.D43F3200" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.8 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_50_60, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_009F_01C9AE5E.D43F3200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Few decodes tonight in rain clutter making background QRN +12 DBs above norm= al... But we do have a winner, 090327 0048 11 -19 1.8 0.503867 M0BMU IO91 33= =20 I must see what is the matter with this pesky COAC ( clutter operated anti c= lutter ) gadget... It's on the blink, by Jove!! TNX Dave @ /17 ------=_NextPart_000_009F_01C9AE5E.D43F3200 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Few decodes tonight in rain clutter making backg= round=20 QRN +12 DBs above normal...
 
But we do have a winner,  090327 0048 = 11=20 -19  1.8   0.503867  M0BMU IO91 33
 
I must see what is the matter with this pesky CO= AC (=20 clutter operated anti clutter ) gadget...
 
It's on the blink, by Jove!!
 
TNX
 
Dave @  /17
 
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_009F_01C9AE5E.D43F3200-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df11.mx.aol.com (rly-df11.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.24]) by air-df08.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDF082-58f49ca553b323; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 12:01:12 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df11.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF118-58f49ca553b323; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 12:01:02 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LmVWZ-0000fB-Ku for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 16:00:15 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LmVWZ-0000f2-6Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 16:00:15 +0000 Received: from mx71.mail.ru ([94.100.176.85]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LmVWW-0005DI-EL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 16:00:15 +0000 Received: from [79.98.8.6] (port=1661 helo=EFREMOV) by mx71.mail.ru with asmtp id 1LmVWP-000B2W-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 19:00:05 +0300 X-Nat-Received: 172.16.10.160 Message-ID: <001801c9ad62$c0e9ae30$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> From: "Andrey rn3agc" To: References: <08BC07D903190E3B12316@kabelmail.de> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:59:16 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: Ok X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: DJ8WX Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 > ...113mWERP... Uwe, last spring how many was? 73 Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md07.mx.aol.com (rly-md07.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.145]) by air-md09.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMD092-91749aebc302fc; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 12:37:01 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md07.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD077-91749aebc302fc; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 12:36:51 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lev1T-0007XB-Lb for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 17:36:47 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lev1T-0007X2-9V for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 17:36:47 +0000 Received: from qw-out-1920.google.com ([74.125.92.146]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lev1S-0007bQ-Ib for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 17:36:47 +0000 Received: by qw-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 4so2946492qwk.16 for ; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 09:36:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=l7lV/VXqeuQc7Fo3gE+/jFgvbPr9w+F+g3tWfJNx56w=; b=BYNCFOxOCbUp6tY5XTmvZGbuWJEC27p82kNskJhKEtOK7nfUFT6ivsiBDoy75IZDFF h2aHfHTy9+wZOuQ1TZPX+oW3ZT+HmUJOXI5WSmnJniqpNUr1W9GuK0XoMo+GyUFSOxb+ tKAnP1HL/rz+2guyP85D4rfXSlAjtIeqHnlEg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=n9GohCwLH3vnYsYP0L/rKB+IiAWHv4OYxgT3FnbBisZvzam5Zxj/7rXHRiXOmobfYB zA+ya9SF3WiFUPgnIJJY3tsdBfLDVC4G3YLcFYwEixDG/jGlQCIzkuLh+5a1knCVd4ZI aYBwHjuMpU5+KjsEGgWuKCzJRGHG2SNBvBz7A= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.28.67 with SMTP id l3mr253912qac.76.1236188205284; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 09:36:45 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 12:36:45 -0500 Message-ID: <57a24ca70903040936g67e9fcbbv5ad007aea09b672c@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: Re: LF: XGJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m259.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Lubos, Thank you for the capture! --=20 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 2009/3/4 Lubos OK2BVG : > 73! > > Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS > > ________________________________ > St=E1hn=ECte si zcela nov=FD Messenger 2009! Klikni zde! --=20 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf07.mx.aol.com (rly-mf07.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.177]) by air-mf08.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMF083-97249cf57a494; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 07:12:42 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf07.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF078-97249cf57a494; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 07:12:38 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LnsvR-0001OD-LB for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 12:11:37 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LnsvR-0001O4-6L for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 12:11:37 +0100 Received: from mail-qy0-f115.google.com ([209.85.221.115]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LnsvP-00058k-3i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 12:11:37 +0100 Received: by qyk13 with SMTP id 13so1107400qyk.30 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 04:10:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=deHSxWU1lcg7ngi6iuerNTjvHeVcnlpfFDXyE7yMKo8=; b=SYxrrtPIa1243TYOeUNzmd/8JIXS8uKdfdaerOM8slmjya2Hd9TAQ69rcUAMbdTjNG VHaTX7x0YTMU0OUVoGKkPZ3dAW4QBHqC8CNXeQWTS4PUjgDmIkGL22MvvkE6LMzRum5T SaozlhtoWIqQ74DGyAGEOUW2VP93nWpb4GhaU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=U9NCfXDL5qSuK4XHKAJHJvmC2lYKKoSaqzRL040G7cFCrapOCGHaB7SBRt/HAOAh5z F11NJ+Rodhjue9xd90CaqW9pSdKkya0JrSHrV6AHvDxp86AuHZYyfj92TObJQAjYqFrH 6BP2jT3jP3rk1d3EFd4LOfogYjZcP3yHEotps= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.54.132 with SMTP id q4mr4798192qag.221.1238325028235; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 04:10:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <64634259.20090329120101@dx.ru> References: <64634259.20090329120101@dx.ru> Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 07:10:28 -0400 Message-ID: <57a24ca70903290410s14960d40wd5f3288de4ff357b@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: XGJ strong Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m283.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Dear Ed, Thank you for the capture! Best XGJ capture from Russia so far! --=20 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 2009/3/29 Ed RU6LA : > Dear LF enthusiasts! > > XGJ was very strong from 3z till 5z in 60s mode of Argo > > Now see some traces (o to M) on abt 710 in 10s mode > > 73! Ed RU6LA =A0 136.73.ru From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db01.mx.aol.com (rly-db01.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.76]) by air-db09.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDB092-aaa49aa595e2ec; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 04:46:19 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db01.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB018-aaa49aa595e2ec; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 04:46:09 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LdiF5-00088E-GM for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 09:45:51 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LdiF4-000885-Vb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 09:45:50 +0000 Received: from mx71.mail.ru ([94.100.176.85]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LdiF4-0004RQ-8v for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 09:45:50 +0000 Received: from [79.98.8.6] (port=9241 helo=EFREMOV) by mx71.mail.ru with asmtp id 1LdiEx-0001za-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 12:45:43 +0300 X-Nat-Received: 172.16.10.160 Message-ID: <001301c99a52$7c3e1910$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> From: "Andrey rn3agc" To: References: <49A91070.9040902@freenet.de> <49A9B2F6.9070607@online.fr> Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 09:45:23 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: Ok X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: RN3AGC and RA3YO Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hello Jean-Pierre, Thanks for the screenshot! Now here 350 watt. Was 400-450 earlier. The aerial - a 40-metre wire, height of the top point of 25 metres, height of the bottom point of 12 metres. A counterbalance is the armature of a many-storeyed building. 73 Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV > Good copy AGC and YO this evening, > what are your conditions ? Andrey > 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf09.mx.aol.com (rly-mf09.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.179]) by air-mf05.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMF053-98049b12e27262; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 09:07:48 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf09.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF096-98049b12e27262; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 09:07:37 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lfahb-0004EQ-Bv for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 14:07:03 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lfahb-0004EH-0U for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 14:07:03 +0000 Received: from psmtp08.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.22]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lfaha-0008Ma-Dq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 14:07:02 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp08.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KG30057D8JIG8@psmtp08.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 15:06:54 +0100 (MET) Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 15:06:49 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <0B735BDA5E9A425B87FB481643E52ECB@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 184khz Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_8b5K37klrSIDZOnwaZwuXQ)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_8b5K37klrSIDZOnwaZwuXQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Hello and All ,nil on the screen Joe, Henny pa3cpm 73s --Boundary_(ID_8b5K37klrSIDZOnwaZwuXQ) Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
Hello and All ,nil on the screen Joe,
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73s
--Boundary_(ID_8b5K37klrSIDZOnwaZwuXQ)-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md04.mx.aol.com (rly-md04.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.142]) by air-md07.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMD074-8fa49c023e010; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 18:28:01 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md04.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD042-8fa49c023e010; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 18:27:46 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ljhl9-0008Gd-QR for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 22:27:43 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ljhl9-0008GU-Et for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 22:27:43 +0000 Received: from yw-out-1718.google.com ([74.125.46.156]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ljhl7-0003Gg-DP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 22:27:43 +0000 Received: by yw-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 5so142679ywm.64 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 15:27:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=FM9OJ7O+SzWhL8t0vo5V7NEQZdFvvoiy1vRGhw6Bhdc=; b=CZ8zZi5T6gCbqOb0gZEcomoUE+Bd/lbJzm9VY6nQrPvGCxIA4ChRe5yNluYD/nkwNJ 45TuyxvCKLqrKbyUGVAiVsqS4RdJ+v2SpIMAqBlLcC8MMsRAsA5Vs0U8rNbToWbPep4B 04vt7BYE9MgJqNfvy8NVZd5Kg+HAff06tWl80= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=piXm8SA+tHzIyonCTa95LZdOViDUprwKw+DompW0hoC6m/3uHd7K6M9cZ0h5OZM92b I8lpkgC6EVfHaqNzcifkGP694JZtlJVXaXMJtYnPz7mntJhxS8c1QvTt2nVFECWYo9i0 2bbT57yLWxL26kHWZJUcmfRIBEHGGVKUZi6GI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.90.93.17 with SMTP id q17mr279282agb.60.1237328858372; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 15:27:38 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <09D7DB9537774AB5A6A57D13F7F5FCCC@Black> References: <09D7DB9537774AB5A6A57D13F7F5FCCC@Black> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 17:27:38 -0500 Message-ID: <57a24ca70903171527y22f3965au67a2523a805d48d8@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: XKO and XGJ in Bavaria Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d255.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Markus, Tnx for the FB report and grabber! -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 4:38 PM, Markus Vester wrote: > Hello Dex and Warren, > > last night, XKO and XGJ were also strong at this end of the world... > http://freenet-homepage.de/df6nm/TA/testTA0903170400.png > > 73 de Markus, DF6NM > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc06.mx.aol.com (rly-dc06.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.35]) by air-dc03.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC032-b2549cea3c6152; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 18:25:22 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc06.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC061-b2549cea3c6152; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 18:25:13 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lngwg-00029V-FN for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 22:24:06 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lngwg-00029M-3J for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 22:24:06 +0000 Received: from mx71.mail.ru ([94.100.176.85]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lngwe-00089D-G2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 22:24:06 +0000 Received: from [79.98.8.6] (port=12500 helo=EFREMOV) by mx71.mail.ru with asmtp id 1LngwM-0003bG-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 01:23:46 +0300 X-Nat-Received: 172.16.10.160 Message-ID: <002601c9aff3$d423f5d0$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> From: "Andrey rn3agc" To: References: <09EEBFEAD3D34FD683AA5838C7343032@ns94d01ae4d850> Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 22:23:16 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: Ok X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: AGC 28-03.jpg Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 TNX Henny! 73 Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV > Nice capture AGC > Henny cpm > best 73s > Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: > agc 28-03.jpg > > Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde > bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden > afgehandeld. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me10.mx.aol.com (rly-me10.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.44]) by air-me02.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME022-9e449abba6cc7; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 05:52:37 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME108-9e449abba6cc7; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 05:52:30 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Le5ki-0000nO-QB for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 10:52:04 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Le5ki-0000nF-Eg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 10:52:04 +0000 Received: from mailfilter11.ihug.co.nz ([203.109.136.11]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Le5kg-0003ty-V2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 10:52:04 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEAKdIq0l2XKjK/2dsb2JhbACNBcg5hBoGg3k X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,288,1233486000"; d="scan'208";a="167543767" Received: from 118-92-168-202.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz (HELO athlon1200) ([118.92.168.202]) by smtp.mailfilter5.ihug.co.nz with SMTP; 02 Mar 2009 23:51:56 +1300 Message-ID: <001f01c99b24$ede8e180$7900a8c0@athlon1200> From: "Dave Brown" To: References: Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 23:52:06 +1300 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: 137.777 -779 window Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Nothing official yet re VK operation- they have to wait till they get the word to start using the band and it seems a long time coming. I checked on this just yesterday with Steve Olney, VK2SRO. Not sure just who might appear when they finally do get the go ahead but Steve is keen. He did quite a lot of work on LF related software etc several years ago of course. For those of you who I volunteered to get copies of articles on phased receiving antenna systems ex Break-In- I have got permission from the BI editor to reproduce same and will be making them available to all who asked for them in the next week or so. 73 Dave, ZL3FJ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurence BY3A-KL1X China" To: Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 11:16 PM Subject: LF: 137.777 -779 window At the request of our Russian friends Im running the grabber in the above window at dot 120 slow - Conditions are much quieter QRN wise tonight and hopefully the signals will be as strong tonight giving a better s/n here. Ill be running this till my dawn at around 2300Z maybe earlier. Any new on any VK/ZL operations? Would be an excellent wateryish path from here. With thanks Laurence KL1 X in BY3A area OM89 Grabber http://kl1x.com/dx00000.jpg.com _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail® is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_70faster_032009 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df08.mx.aol.com (rly-df08.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.21]) by air-df01.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDF013-56d49bb9e7b20d; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 08:09:43 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df08.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF084-56d49bb9e7b20d; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 08:09:33 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LiSfi-0008WF-UB for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 12:08:58 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LiSfi-0008W6-2h for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 12:08:58 +0000 Received: from vms173001pub.verizon.net ([206.46.173.1]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LiSff-0000YV-5I for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 12:08:58 +0000 Received: from DR2 ([71.184.212.10]) by vms173001.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KGH00M9BWEI2ZY2@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 07:08:43 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: From: "dave.riley3" To: Cc: "600MRG" References: Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 07:08:40 -0500 MIME-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Multi-function beacon Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0077_01C9A473.B436E2E0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.1 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0077_01C9A473.B436E2E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Andy, beacons, Looks like the beacon program is up and running correctly as 5 mhz shows rel= ative sigs and frequency counts. Last night conditions here were very poor for T/A on 600m, even with this br= oad high pressure area that helped keep the noise down. Even DI2AM was very=20= weak and SM6BHZ did not decode. So I will run it again on you tonight, but I did see remnanats of what looks= like a letter K during the beacon transmission times from you ( in ARGO QRS= S3 )... Sample of 5290kc. over last night. 2009 03 14 03 00 47.51 39.97 36.06 23.91 0.00 1495.70 1494.14 0.00 2009 03 14 03 15 34.12 37.03 31.32 23.36 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 14 03 30 33.87 30.14 35.05 29.91 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 14 03 45 30.91 26.89 26.38 23.12 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 14 04 00 32.25 44.39 25.68 24.24 0.00 0.00 1494.14 0.00 2009 03 14 04 15 40.13 39.54 35.79 24.24 0.00 1495.51 1494.14 0.00 2009 03 14 04 30 44.71 42.47 29.35 30.72 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 14 04 45 33.16 37.11 35.32 23.03 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 14 05 00 48.07 46.44 34.46 25.30 0.00 1495.90 1494.14 0.00 2009 03 14 05 15 43.12 47.39 30.40 23.83 0.00 1495.70 1494.14 0.00 2009 03 14 05 30 48.13 31.83 37.48 26.50 0.00 1495.70 0.00 0.00 2009 03 14 05 45 47.11 42.90 37.04 22.88 0.00 1495.90 1494.34 0.00 2009 03 14 06 00 28.69 30.99 30.46 23.66 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 14 06 15 41.04 31.09 29.58 23.29 0.00 1495.90 0.00 0.00 The 'red' station usually seems the strongest on the graph... TNX Dave @ /17 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Andy Talbot=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org ; uk_beacons@yahoogroups.com=20 Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 5:57 AM Subject: LF: Re: Multi-function beacon Just a reminder to all - this beacon is still going, and will probably con= tinue to do so until further notice. A few listeners have downloaded the s= oftware, and thanks to all (you know who your are :-) for the plots / listin= gs. I am not in a position to compile them, so don't expect revelations, b= ut Gerhard / DK6NI has been monitoring pretty well continuously, and has p= lotted some deep fades / enhancements measured over hours with depths in the= regions of 30dB. Are there any stations in the US in a position to monitor ? =20 Please note that if using the recommended 5meg beacon monitoring software=20= you'll either have to set the delta time to -240 (or -180 or -120) seconds o= r adjust the PC clock by two, three or four minutes to cope with the four mi= nute offset I'm running it on. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com =20 2009/3/6 Andy Talbot I've now started transmitting a timed beacon signal on 503.7kHz that is= identical in format to that of GB3SSS operated over the winter months of th= e last two years from Poldhu on 1.9 and 3.5MHz, and has a similar signal s= tructure to the 5MHz beacons, GB3RAL, WES and ORK. These all have an initia= l CW ident and stepped power levels for aural reception, and a precisely def= ined period of full-power plain carrier for S/N measurements. =20 See http://www.rsgb-spectrumforum.org.uk/5mhz%20beacons.htm for the c= omplete 5MHz signal structure. For this MF transmission, as on GB3SSS, the= pulsed sounder sequence of the 5MHz beacons is replaced with a PSK31 messag= e which lasts from 30s to approx 48 seconds after the start Auto Monitoring software writen by G3PLX is available for monitoring the= se beacons, it measures signal to noise during the carrier period and saves=20= to file as well as plotting the last 40 hours worth of measurements. The software can be downloaded from http://www.rsgb.org/spectrumforum/h= f/beaconauto.php . PSK31 data can be copied with Digipan, Fldigi, PSK31SBW= or a host of other packages. TIMING=20 The 503.7kHz transmission takes place every 15 minutes at 4 minutes past= the quarter hour. =20 ie each transmission starts at xx:04, xx:19, xx:34 and xx:49 This tim= e slot has been selected so that the transmission do not interfere with my c= ontinuous ongoing reception of the 5Mhz beacons - the active antenna used fo= r these is overloaded by the 500kHz signal and I have already lost data when= the WSPR beacon transmission coincided with one of the monitoring windows. NOTE If using the G3PLX software, this only monitors for the three 5MH= z beacons at 00, 01 and 02 minutes. SO IT WILL BE NECESSARY TO FRIG THE SOFTWARE to monitor this transmissi= on at the 04 minute point. The necessary alteration can be done by firstly= setting your PC clock accurately to the correct time, then setting the Trac= k Time box to -240 (minus 240 seconds). This will make the software look fo= r this transmission during the time window it thinks it would be receiving G= B3RAL, and log the MF transmission during the first minute, on the red trace= , as if it were GB3RAL=20 The beacon uses the identical hardware to the WSPR transmissions of the=20= last few weeks, with the the only change being a reprogramming of the contro= ller PIC. In fact the very same hardware was previously loaned to the Pold= hu club for their beacons, with the only difference being a change to the fi= nal Low Pass filter on the output of the broadband PA. ------=_NextPart_000_0077_01C9A473.B436E2E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Andy, beacons,
 
Looks like the beacon program is up and running=20 correctly as 5 mhz shows relative sigs and frequency=20 counts.
 
Last night conditions here were very poor for T/= A on=20 600m, even with this broad high pressure area that helped keep the noise dow= n.=20 Even DI2AM was very weak and SM6BHZ did not decode.
 
So I will run it again on you tonight, but I did= see=20 remnanats of what looks like a letter K during the beacon transmission times= =20 from you ( in ARGO QRSS3 )...
 
 
Sample of 5290kc. over last=20 night.
 
2009 03 14 03 00 47.51 39.97 36.06 23.91 0.00 14= 95.70=20 1494.14 0.00
2009 03 14 03 15 34.12 37.03 31.32 23.36 0.00 0.00 0.00=20 0.00
2009 03 14 03 30 33.87 30.14 35.05 29.91 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
2009= 03=20 14 03 45 30.91 26.89 26.38 23.12 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
2009 03 14 04 00 32.= 25=20 44.39 25.68 24.24 0.00 0.00 1494.14 0.00
2009 03 14 04 15 40.13 39.54 35.= 79=20 24.24 0.00 1495.51 1494.14 0.00
2009 03 14 04 30 44.71 42.47 29.35 30.72=20= 0.00=20 0.00 0.00 0.00
2009 03 14 04 45 33.16 37.11 35.32 23.03 0.00 0.00 0.00=20 0.00
2009 03 14 05 00 48.07 46.44 34.46 25.30 0.00 1495.90 1494.14=20 0.00
2009 03 14 05 15 43.12 47.39 30.40 23.83 0.00 1495.70 1494.14=20 0.00
2009 03 14 05 30 48.13 31.83 37.48 26.50 0.00 1495.70 0.00 0.00
2= 009=20 03 14 05 45 47.11 42.90 37.04 22.88 0.00 1495.90 1494.34 0.00
2009 03 14=20= 06=20 00 28.69 30.99 30.46 23.66 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
2009 03 14 06 15 41.04 31.= 09=20 29.58 23.29 0.00 1495.90 0.00 0.00
 
The 'red' station usually seems the strongest on= the=20 graph...
 
TNX
 
Dave @ /17
 
----- Original Message -----
Andy Talbot
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 5:57=20 AM
Subject: LF: Re: Multi-function=20 beacon

Just a reminder to all - this beacon is still going, and will probabl= y=20 continue to do so until further notice.   A few listeners have=20 downloaded the software, and thanks to all (you know who your are :-) for=20= the=20 plots / listings.   I am not in a position to compile them, so d= on't=20 expect revelations, but Gerhard  /  DK6NI has been monitoring pr= etty=20 well continuously, and has plotted some deep fades / enhancement= s=20 measured over hours with depths in the regions of 30dB.
 
Are there any stations in the US in a position to monitor=20 ?  
 
Please note that if using the recommended 5meg beacon monitoring soft= ware=20 you'll either have to set the delta time to -240 (or -180 or -120) seconds= or=20 adjust the PC clock by two, three or four minutes to cope with the four mi= nute=20 offset I'm running it on.
 
Andy  G4JNT
2009/3/6 Andy Talbot <andy.g4jnt@goog= lemail.com>
I've now started transmitting a timed  beacon signal on=20 503.7kHz that is identical in format to that of GB3SSS operated ove= r=20 the winter months of the last two years  from Poldhu on 1.9 an= d=20 3.5MHz,  and has a similar signal structure to the 5MHz beacon= s,=20 GB3RAL, WES and ORK.  These all have an initial CW ident=20 and stepped power levels for aural reception, and a precisely=20 defined period of full-power plain carrier for S/N=20 measurements.  
See   http://www.rsgb-spectrumforum.o= rg.uk/5mhz%20beacons.htm =20 for the complete 5MHz  signal structure.  For this MF=20 transmission, as on GB3SSS, the pulsed sounder sequence of the 5MHz beac= ons=20 is replaced with a PSK31 message which lasts from 30s to approx 48=20 seconds after the start
 
Auto Monitoring software writen by G3PLX is available for monitorin= g=20 these beacons, it measures signal to noise during the carrier period and= =20 saves to file as well as plotting the last 40 hours worth of=20 measurements.
The software can be downloaded from  http://ww= w.rsgb.org/spectrumforum/hf/beaconauto.php .  =20 PSK31 data can be copied with Digipan, Fldigi, PSK31SBW or a host of oth= er=20 packages.
 
TIMING
The 503.7kHz transmission takes place every 15 minutes at 4 minutes= =20 past the quarter hour. 
ie each transmission starts at xx:04, xx:19, xx:34 and= =20 xx:49    This time slot has been selected s= o=20 that the transmission do not interfere with my continuous ongoing recept= ion=20 of the 5Mhz beacons - the active antenna used for these is overloaded by= the=20 500kHz signal and I have already lost data when the WSPR beacon transmis= sion=20 coincided with one of the monitoring windows.
 
NOTE   If using the G3PLX software, this=20 only monitors for the three 5MHz beacons at  00, 01 and 02=20 minutes.
SO IT WILL BE NECESSARY TO FRIG THE SOFTWARE=20  to monitor this transmission at the 04 minute=20 point.   The necessary alteration can be done by firstly=20 setting your PC clock accurately to the correct time, then setting=20= the=20 Track Time box to -240 (minus 240 seconds).  This will make the=20 software look for this transmission during the time window it think= s it=20 would be receiving GB3RAL, and log the MF transmission during the f= irst=20 minute, on the red trace, as if it were GB3RAL 
 
The beacon uses the identical hardware to the WSPR transmissio= ns=20 of the last few weeks, with the the only change being=20 a reprogramming of the controller PIC.   In fact the very= =20 same hardware was previously loaned to the Poldhu club for their beacons= ,=20 with the only difference being a change to the final Low Pass filter on=20= the=20 output of the broadband PA.
 

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rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG035-a0349ba40f1230; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 07:18:11 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Li5Og-0001l0-HM for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 11:17:50 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Li5Og-0001kr-6l for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 11:17:50 +0000 Received: from simone.ucs.mun.ca ([134.153.232.77]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Li5Oe-0004jT-8d for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 11:17:50 +0000 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.232.153]) by simone.ucs.mun.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n2DBHeCY008195 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 13 Mar 2009 08:47:40 -0230 Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 08:47:40 -0230 (NDT) From: jcraig@mun.ca X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: henny van elst cc: blacksheep In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: 184khz Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Henny, LF Group. Sorry, but the beacon is off at the moment so that the 503.7 kHz signals from G4JNT can be monitored. Unfortunately, nothing seen so far. 73 Joe VO1NA Thanks for On Fri, 13 Mar 2009, henny van elst wrote: > hello LF, > Nil for Joe, > Henny cpm > 73s > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd07.mx.aol.com (rly-dd07.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.154]) by air-dd03.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDD032-b8b49bff9e225; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 15:29:04 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd07.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD075-b8b49bff9e225; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 15:28:36 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LjexW-0005y2-K8 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 19:28:18 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LjexW-0005xt-32 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 19:28:18 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.151] helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LjexU-0004c1-30 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 19:28:18 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3541.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 89B211C00082 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 20:28:10 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.15.9]) by mwinf3541.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id F131D1C00081 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 20:28:07 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20090317192807988.F131D1C00081@mwinf3541.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: References: <200903141634.37933.ve8rt@xplornet.com> <8bf118410903151024k69053f8cs345c4673ad93deec@mail.gmail.com> <200903151858.47737.ve8rt@xplornet.com> In-Reply-To: <200903151858.47737.ve8rt@xplornet.com> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 19:28:04 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8064.206 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8064.206 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Getting started, maybe Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Fine Ron, Well quite a lot of uk stations are running T or some form of top loaded vertical , with 35 feet vertical section, mine is in the form of a inverted L with 35 ft vertical, 40 turn/3inch top loading coil and 2 x 40 foot parallel ,capacity section, so your towers look to be fine ? what is the ground earth like , assume the lakes are fresh water ? 500 seems to be a funny frequency as theses small arrays appear to radiate quite well and distance/power looks good , 50 watts of mfsk prints well at 5/600 miles range A short 'long' wire may not work as well as you might think ..unless you can get the height , due mostly to ground capacity .. but if you can get 1000 mtrs out at fence height .. now that may do the trick (for rx) Andy's beacon is running 100 watts and looks to be reaching K4 land 4000 miles , you look to be 3600 miles so should be in range ? you could try loading up a T ,atu at the base and take a look on 503.7 , using the ral/plx software for the 5 meg project ? other beacons are about but are not 'timed' so need spec-lab, wsper or similar .. 73 , G .. Nb ... There has been a tv series showing the ice road truck's taking goods up the frozen lakes quite amazing to watch .... ! -------------------------------------------------- From: "Ron Thompson" Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 12:58 AM To: Subject: Re: LF: Getting started, maybe > > Hi Graham, > > my actual location is at postal code X1A 2H5 > > I'm in the company crew house at the float base. In the Google map for > the postal code, at the highest available satellite magnification, you > should > see floatplanes along the parking lot and then in a cove on the upper side > of > the parking lot is a yellow Cessna floatplane. The house just to the left > of > the floatplane is where I live. Unfortunately, as the house is in the > floatbase parking lot, there isn't any antenna space around it. What I do > have is two 15 metre towers spaced about 48 metres apart that I use for my > HF > antenna (it used to have a company commercial HF antenna before). Any > LF/MF > antenna must be compact and mountable either to the house or one of the > towers. Power lines are between the house and cove, which may be a noise > source. > > Ron > > On Sunday 15 March 2009 16:20, Graham wrote: >> I was looking on google earth ... looks to be a lot of sea planes about >> .. that would prevent any high mast ?? >> >> the location looks a bit tricky ......a low long wire may be good .. but >> can you get one out , looks to have roads all round ? >> >> G .. >> >> >> From: Dave Pick >> Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 5:24 PM >> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> Subject: Re: LF: Getting started, maybe >> >> >> Ron >> >> I would recommend a loop antenna, there are various designs around such >> as >> Jim M0BMU's design, http://www.wireless.org.uk/BPloops2.pdf Even though >> you're in the middle of nowhere there, you should stand a chance of >> getting >> some of the US 500kHz stations ( www.500kc.com ) going under the calls >> WD2XSH and WE2XGR with numerical suffixes identifying the individual >> stations. We in the UK have 10W ERP but it won't be easy to get right >> over >> to you... Maybe you could contact some of the US stations in the North >> and >> do some test with them first? >> >> Good luck! >> Dave G3YXM. >> >> 2009/3/14 Ron Thompson : >> > I've been reading the occasional posting to the list, wondering if I >> > could find some time and money to work with. As we do not yet have >> > licences for the 500KHz band, the best place to start would be setting >> > up >> > for receiving. > > -- > Ron Thompson, VE8RT > Yellowknife, NT, Canada > 62 28.060 N 114 20.648 W Grid Square DP22tl > "Who are are these that fly as a cloud, and as doves to their window?" Is > 60:8 > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.15/2003 - Release Date: 03/15/09 > 14:07:00 > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md03.mx.aol.com (rly-md03.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.141]) by air-md10.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMD102-8f249b409f0224; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 14:10:06 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md03.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD032-8f249b409f0224; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 14:09:54 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LgNRS-0000AH-C3 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 18:09:38 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LgNRR-0000A8-Rg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 18:09:37 +0000 Received: from fish2.hurontel.on.ca ([216.46.129.163]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LgNRQ-00077u-Jk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 18:09:37 +0000 Received: from weazle (pppoe.dyn-216.46.157.28.hurontel.on.ca [216.46.157.28]) by fish2.hurontel.on.ca (Spam Firewall) with SMTP id A713B86BD6C for ; Sun, 8 Mar 2009 14:09:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from weazle (pppoe.dyn-216.46.157.28.hurontel.on.ca [216.46.157.28]) by fish2.hurontel.on.ca with SMTP id ntUweEYUjhDlSt11 for ; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 14:09:27 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <000201c9a019$05129420$0b01a8c0@weazle> From: "J. B. Weazle McCreath" To: References: <1794381892.23372.1236524009509.JavaMail.mail@webmail03> <007f01c9a004$97057380$0900a8c0@AM> <49B40134.2020200@usa.net> Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 18:09:19 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: energy saving bulbs Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hello LFers, I've been using the CFL of the double helix variety for a number of years here with good results. I've not noted any increase in the "noise field" of my home, both in the shack and elsewhere, since I started using them. The ratio of light to power consumed makes them worthwhile, especially so in applications like my own where I produce some of my own power with a small wind turbine and PV array. In the shack I replaced 6 incandescent 60 watt bulbs with 6 of the CFLs rated at 15 watt each. I've got twice the light with 25% of the power needed to produce it, not a bad trade-off! As others have mentioned, I wouldn't install them where they are going to be turned on and off regularly, like in a closet, bathroom, etc., but in applications where they are turned on and left on for hours at a time, they are certainly worthwhile. 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL Solar and wind powered Lowfer " EAR" 188.830 EN93dr http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df06.mx.aol.com (rly-df06.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.19]) by air-df01.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDF014-55949bac4382ca; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 16:38:26 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df06.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF064-55949bac4382ca; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 16:38:18 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LiE8q-0004yQ-Rv for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 20:38:04 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LiE8q-0004yH-2i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 20:38:04 +0000 Received: from mail-bw0-f164.google.com ([209.85.218.164]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LiE8m-00051i-Pt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 20:38:04 +0000 Received: by bwz8 with SMTP id 8so3032605bwz.4 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 13:37:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=xTy+xmKYcni9VQC6MJAPF/GTrHpUJl7c6FaE+NKsjTM=; b=S688Nu5eMGSgZiagZvVNxzr8BUChrWE8BvJu36UPaWQ1Qpuwz4MTjkMu9xROuEfaFm WwiAIsI7lPMld7ICPiLOKHgkoyd8X5ZikDhWYRMOkU4KFglKPYDOr/zYLeaMzJJpxwPt au1SA3/gsr3WoGm+a/7/3IjrnMlx0C9/5g19M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=MNAQOMY4+Mdr6YIIsw6gI07yGsmfU429EzL8Dgchg/junqi7Kyr0SrvaKbbkmRQWJs 7zfG6CqFkvHPhwojEXAzpjfv/1CNJZsfhT2eok7cHyUcmRcHrVPLmbMPKCcRCWSng7sK xsz63bzwmAlGxOILlrnKC006/p4gize1zgogQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.56.4 with SMTP id w4mr497952bkg.25.1236976673252; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 13:37:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <76D5267D67914AA8851C33ECCF8AA856@DR2> References: <76D5267D67914AA8851C33ECCF8AA856@DR2> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 20:37:53 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: Multi-function beacon Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00504502bad0346530046506134e X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d290.2 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --00504502bad0346530046506134e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Its going continuously, although I suspect I'll have to turn it off when I'm not around such as weekday day times - unattended beacons are not permitted it seems! Certainly will be going all weekend. If you've set up logging, the file you specified will be in the default installation directory. Its a simple .txt file. Nothing clever like the WSPR monitoring S/W Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/3/13 dave.riley3 > *Andy, et al, re: logging program* > ** > *I just plugged in the G3PLX program and it is already collecting data on > 5290...* > ** > *Will you be on tonight?? 503.700kc ( 502.200 usb ) ?* > ** > *If so I'll leave it parked on you all night with -240 seconds delay.* > ** > *Where do I find the logs stored when session is over??* > ** > *TNX* > ** > *Dave @ WD2XSH/17* > ** > ** > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Andy Talbot > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org ; uk_beacons@yahoogroups.com > *Sent:* Friday, March 13, 2009 5:57 AM > *Subject:* LF: Re: Multi-function beacon > > Just a reminder to all - this beacon is still going, and will probably > continue to do so until further notice. A few listeners have downloaded > the software, and thanks to all (you know who your are :-) for the plots / > listings. I am not in a position to compile them, so don't expect > revelations, but Gerhard / DK6NI has been monitoring pretty > well continuously, and has plotted some deep fades / enhancements measured > over hours with depths in the regions of 30dB. > > Are there any stations in the US in a position to monitor ? > > Please note that if using the recommended 5meg beacon monitoring software > you'll either have to set the delta time to -240 (or -180 or -120) seconds > or adjust the PC clock by two, three or four minutes to cope with the four > minute offset I'm running it on. > > Andy G4JNT > www.g4jnt.com > > > 2009/3/6 Andy Talbot > >> I've now started transmitting a timed beacon signal on 503.7kHz that >> is identical in format to that of GB3SSS operated over the winter months of >> the last two years from Poldhu on 1.9 and 3.5MHz, and has a similar signal >> structure to the 5MHz beacons, GB3RAL, WES and ORK. These all have an >> initial CW ident and stepped power levels for aural reception, and a >> precisely defined period of full-power plain carrier for S/N measurements. >> See http://www.rsgb-spectrumforum.org.uk/5mhz%20beacons.htm for the >> complete 5MHz signal structure. For this MF transmission, as on GB3SSS, >> the pulsed sounder sequence of the 5MHz beacons is replaced with a PSK31 >> message which lasts from 30s to approx 48 seconds after the start >> >> Auto Monitoring software writen by G3PLX is available for monitoring >> these beacons, it measures signal to noise during the carrier period and >> saves to file as well as plotting the last 40 hours worth of measurements. >> The software can be downloaded from >> http://www.rsgb.org/spectrumforum/hf/beaconauto.php . PSK31 data can be >> copied with Digipan, Fldigi, PSK31SBW or a host of other packages. >> >> *TIMING * >> The 503.7kHz transmission takes place every 15 minutes at 4 minutes past >> the quarter hour. >> ie each transmission starts at *xx:04, xx:19, xx:34 and xx:49 * This >> time slot has been selected so that the transmission do not interfere with >> my continuous ongoing reception of the 5Mhz beacons - the active antenna >> used for these is overloaded by the 500kHz signal and I have already lost >> data when the WSPR beacon transmission coincided with one of the monitoring >> windows. >> >> NOTE If using the G3PLX software, this only monitors for the three 5MHz >> beacons at 00, 01 and 02 minutes. >> *SO IT WILL BE NECESSARY TO FRIG THE SOFTWARE * to monitor >> this transmission at the 04 minute point. The necessary alteration can be >> done by firstly setting your PC clock accurately to the correct time, then >> setting the Track Time box to -240 (minus 240 seconds). This will make the >> software look for this transmission during the time window it thinks it >> would be receiving GB3RAL, and log the MF transmission during the first >> minute, on the red trace, as if it were GB3RAL >> >> The beacon uses the identical hardware to the WSPR transmissions of the >> last few weeks, with the the only change being a reprogramming of the >> controller PIC. In fact the very same hardware was previously loaned to >> the Poldhu club for their beacons, with the only difference being a change >> to the final Low Pass filter on the output of the broadband PA. >> >> >> >> --00504502bad0346530046506134e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Its going continuously, although I suspect I'll have to turn it off= when I'm not around such as weekday day times=A0- unattended beacons ar= e not permitted it seems!=A0=A0 Certainly will be going all weekend.
=A0
If you've set up logging, the file you specified will be in the def= ault installation directory.=A0 Its a simple .txt file.=A0=A0 Nothing clever= like the WSPR monitoring S/W
=A0

Andy =A0G4JNT
www= .g4jnt.com


2009/3/13 dave.riley3 <dave.riley3@verizon.net>=
Andy, et al, re: logging program
=A0
I just plugged in the G3PLX program and it is=20= already collecting data on 5290...
=A0
Will you be on tonight??=A0=A0 503.700kc=A0 (=20= 502.200 usb ) ?
=A0
If so I'll leave it parked on you all nigh= t with -240 seconds delay.
=A0
Where do I find the logs stored when session i= s over??
=A0
TNX
=A0
Dave @ WD2XSH/17
=A0
=A0
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 5:57 AM<= /div>
Subject: LF: Re: Multi-function beaco= n

Just a reminder to all - this beacon is still going, and will probably=20= continue to do so until further notice.=A0=A0 A few listeners have downloade= d the software, and thanks to all (you know who your are :-) for the plots /= listings.=A0=A0 I am not in a position to compile them, so don't expect= revelations, but Gerhard=A0 /=A0 DK6NI has been monitoring pretty well=A0co= ntinuously, and has plotted some=A0deep fades / enhancements measured over h= ours with depths in the regions of 30dB.
=A0
Are there any stations in the US in a position to monitor ?=A0=A0
=A0
Please note that if using the recommended 5meg beacon monitoring softwa= re you'll either have to set the delta time to -240 (or -180 or -120) se= conds or adjust the PC clock by two, three or four minutes to cope with the=20= four minute offset I'm running it on.
=A0
Andy =A0G4JNT
2009/3/6 Andy Talbot <andy.g4jnt@googlema= il.com>
I've now=A0started transmitting a timed=A0 beacon signal on 503.7kH= z that is=A0identical in format to that of GB3SSS operated over the winter m= onths of the last two years=A0=A0from Poldhu on 1.9 and 3.5MHz, =A0and has= =A0a similar signal structure to the 5MHz beacons, GB3RAL, WES and ORK.=A0 T= hese all have=A0an initial CW ident and=A0stepped power levels for aural rec= eption,=A0and a precisely defined period of full-power plain carrier for S/N= measurements.=A0=A0
See=A0 =A0http://www.rsgb-spectrumforum.org.uk/5mhz%20beacons= .htm=A0 for the complete 5MHz =A0signal structure.=A0=A0For this MF tran= smission, as on GB3SSS, the pulsed sounder sequence of the 5MHz beacons is r= eplaced with a PSK31 message which lasts from=A030s to approx 48 seconds aft= er the start
=A0
Auto Monitoring software writen by G3PLX is available for monitoring th= ese beacons, it measures signal to noise during the carrier period and saves= to file as well as plotting the last 40 hours worth of measurements.
The software can be downloaded from=A0 http://www.rsgb.org/spectr= umforum/hf/beaconauto.php=A0.=A0=A0 PSK31 data can be copied with Digipa= n, Fldigi, PSK31SBW or a host of other packages.
=A0
TIMING
The 503.7kHz transmission takes place every 15 minutes at 4 minutes pas= t the quarter hour.=A0
ie=A0each transmission starts at xx:04, xx:19, xx:34 and xx:49= =A0=A0=A0=A0This time slot has been selected so that the transmissi= on do not interfere with my continuous ongoing reception of the 5Mhz beacons= - the active antenna used for these is overloaded by the 500kHz signal and=20= I have already lost data when the WSPR beacon transmission coincided with on= e of the monitoring windows.
=A0
NOTE=A0=A0 If using the=A0G3PLX software, this only=A0monitors for the=20= three 5MHz beacons at =A000, 01 and 02 minutes.
SO IT WILL BE NECESSARY=A0TO FRIG=A0THE SOFTWARE =A0to= monitor this=A0transmission at the 04 minute point.=A0=A0=A0The necessary a= lteration can be done by firstly setting=A0your PC clock accurately to the c= orrect time, then setting the Track Time box to -240 (minus 240 seconds)..= =A0 This will make the software look for this transmission during the time= =A0window it thinks it would be receiving GB3RAL, and log the=A0MF transmiss= ion during the first minute, on the red trace, as if it were GB3RAL=A0
=A0
The beacon uses the identical hardware to the=A0WSPR transmissions of= =A0the last few weeks, with the the only change being a=A0reprogramming of t= he controller PIC.=A0=A0 In fact the very same hardware was previously loane= d to the Poldhu club for their beacons, with the only difference being a cha= nge to the final Low Pass filter on the output of the broadband PA.
=A0


--00504502bad0346530046506134e-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd03.mx.aol.com (rly-dd03.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.150]) by air-dd05.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDD051-b6749bad000c0; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 17:28:49 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd03.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD031-b6749bad000c0; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 17:28:34 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LiEvI-0005QE-RT for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 21:28:08 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LiEvI-0005Q5-6y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 21:28:08 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-2-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.53]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LiEvG-0000nl-47 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 21:28:08 +0000 X-Trace: 166208592/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.59.96/None/g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.59.96 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Microsoft Office Outlook 11Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AkEIAEdsuklYajtg/2dsb2JhbACCUVNDhTd9g1rCMAeDdwY X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,360,1233532800"; d="scan'208,217";a="166208592" Received: from 88-106-59-96.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.59.96]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 13 Mar 2009 21:28:03 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF -RSGB LF Group" Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 21:28:03 -0000 Message-ID: <00c301c9a422$97e91cd0$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcmkIpdZ/eqWScC7REKGYSqepFDDgw== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: G4WGT 500KHz grabbers. Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00C4_01C9A422.97E91CD0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_00C4_01C9A422.97E91CD0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all at LF, The G4WGT grabbers are back on. Sorry for the glitch in continuity but had PC problems, all sorted now (hopefully), it seems to have been a corrupted sys file. Had to resort to restoring from a recent backup. 73, Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. ------=_NextPart_000_00C4_01C9A422.97E91CD0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi all at LF,=

 =

The G4WGT grabbers are back on.=

 =

Sorry for the glitch in continu= ity but had PC problems, all sorted now (hopefully), it seems to have been a corrupted s= ys file.

Had to resort to restoring from= a recent backup.

 =

73,

 

Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.=

 

------=_NextPart_000_00C4_01C9A422.97E91CD0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db03.mx.aol.com (rly-db03.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.78]) by air-db04.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDB043-ab549c0197512a; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 17:43:32 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db03.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB033-ab549c0197512a; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 17:43:19 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ljh41-0007Nb-EX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 21:43:09 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ljh41-0007NS-33 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 21:43:09 +0000 Received: from imo-d20.mx.aol.com ([205.188.139.136]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ljh3y-0005Le-Tq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 21:43:09 +0000 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-d20.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id l.c1a.543a8285 (34940) for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 17:42:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Black (g229165095.adsl.alicedsl.de [92.229.165.95]) by cia-da05.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILCIADA051-887c49c0195e14d; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 17:42:56 -0400 Message-ID: <3225EC660BC1470A9C61BCCA76E5AEAD@Black> From: "Markus Vester" To: References: <49C01194.2010305@online.fr> In-Reply-To: <49C01194.2010305@online.fr> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 22:42:54 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16480 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16669 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: [137kHz] Test de f1afj qrss60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 .....up to about 0.5 uV/m on this grabber. Well done Jean-Pierre! Good luck de Markus, DF6NM ----- Original Message ----- From: ""Jean-Pierre Méré (F1AFJ)"" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 10:09 PM Subject: LF: [137kHz] Test de f1afj qrss60 Hello LF I am in test on 137775 qrss60, 300 W until 22:00z Your reports will be welcome 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg08.mx.aol.com (rly-dg08.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.92]) by air-dg05.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDG054-5e849c50929195; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 11:35:24 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg08.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG087-5e849c50929195; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 11:35:06 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ll3DI-0005bI-VF for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 15:34:20 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ll3DI-0005b9-K8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 15:34:20 +0000 Received: from mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.48]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ll3DG-00038Y-Vl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 15:34:20 +0000 Received: from aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20090321153403.COPH4080.mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 15:34:03 +0000 Received: from [192.168.2.33] (really [82.22.242.113]) by aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vG.2.02.00.01 201-2161-120-102-20060912) with ESMTP id <20090321153403.OHV21638.aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@[192.168.2.33]> for ; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 15:34:03 +0000 From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 15:33:21 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <49C508C1.22893.5ECE72@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-description: Mail message body X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=9YlaCzn6_68A:10 a=HeoHQEiRHV5C1rAU898A:9 a=asg0tj9c2X0SIC0l6O40WFHQF5YA:4 a=XF7b4UCPwd8A:10 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 136kHz activity 21 March Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Thanks to Harry, G3MFW, activity was fairly high on the 136kHz band this morning. I had QRSS3 QSOs with G3MFW, F6BWO and F4DTL, and saw part of the transmission of OE5ODL. Well done Harry. Mike, G3XDV ========== From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de04.mx.aol.com (rly-de04.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.140]) by air-de04.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDE043-4d049c15f133d9; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 16:52:53 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de04.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE047-4d049c15f133d9; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 16:52:36 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lk2kL-0002rZ-L3 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 20:52:17 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lk2kL-0002rQ-2x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 20:52:17 +0000 Received: from mail-fx0-f174.google.com ([209.85.220.174]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lk2kI-000422-KC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 20:52:17 +0000 Received: by fxm22 with SMTP id 22so256816fxm.4 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 13:52:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=rYmWE7PQ3upKTVlLO1FSM0Np3nIIIIMOU9ptj1jdfj0=; b=xc6ymsZd/msCRRZST50rhaGINGAtgXZbTJTO8TJ4wnLeJT5YM3lR6Suq0WJwDO4THI 4V7/YXbzu6n3TxjEj0LvrMX8JQxug71TROkFCDeLRq7M1iwmeM1sECoxAVv3ZanpvvNr 8ziMGpmBomTnVQHzFKbjaMwQckpWlZ7xm70Es= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=aXa8pQyHeEv7lMsbQsECtxUiP/KbE6D4V+Q/edfdkFthzOKPS2LmkudeT1kTWUMS4s 8Jtqzos9Vk0nFseIrLg/tclXAJVtk8TjO05KNRqG1S9Vj97KrgFvhQTnuNwQUEzjGocV o9qsLvo4sJQwggDqbw6qNIksDhRtwDX+QbVZE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.50.195 with SMTP id a3mr542781bkg.123.1237409528563; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 13:52:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <009001c9a588$7eb02c60$6401a8c0@asus> <005101c9a679$df148f50$6401a8c0@asus> <916F3329CAA846A19B450540FCC7E0AB@AGB> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 20:52:08 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software QQQ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5ad0d64478104656adbfa X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d229.2 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --001636c5ad0d64478104656adbfa Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If timing slips, the averaged power will be out by the amount of slippage. So, for a 1 second error the total power summed over the window is 4/5, or about 1dB down. For 2.5s slippage, -3dB BUT.. ... this may be only an approximation as windowing is applied so the contribution from the power measured at the middle of the timing window is given a greater weigthing than the measurement at either end. In this event, slight timing error will introduce even less error. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/3/18 Graham > Andy, > > Q .. If the tx is keyed by vox/breakin will the slight clipping of > the leading edge of the beacon cause time problems ?? > reason being .. if use force 'tx' will miss the beacon rx windows ?? > > Tnx- G .. > > *From:* Andy Talbot > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 17, 2009 4:27 PM > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > *Subject:* Re: LF: RE: Syncback software > > That should have read http://www.g4jnt.com/PCBCN.zip > > Andy G4JNT > www.g4jnt.com > > > 2009/3/17 Andy Talbot > >> Try http://www.g4jnt.com/beacons.htm and go to PCBCN at the bottom >> or directly >> > ------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.16/2006 - Release Date: 03/17/09 > 07:23:00 > > --001636c5ad0d64478104656adbfa Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
If timing slips, the averaged power will be out by the amount of slippa= ge.=A0 So,=A0for a=A01 second error the total power summed over=A0the=A0wind= ow is 4/5, or about 1dB down.=A0=A0 For 2.5s slippage, -3dB
=A0
BUT..
=A0
.. this=A0may be=A0only an approximation as windowing is applied so the= contribution from the power measured at the middle of the timing window is=20= given a greater weigthing than the measurement at either end.=A0 In this eve= nt, slight timing error will introduce even less error.

Andy =A0G4JNT
www= .g4jnt.com


2009/3/18 Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
Andy,
=A0
Q .. If the=A0 tx is keyed by vox/break= in=A0=A0=A0 will the slight=A0 clipping of the=A0 leading edge of the=A0 bea= con=A0 cause time problems ??
reason being=A0 .. if use force 'tx= ' will miss the=A0 beacon rx windows ??
=A0
Tnx- G ..


Andy =A0G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com


2009/3/17 Andy Talbot <andy.g4jnt@googlem= ail.com>
Try http= ://www.g4jnt.com/beacons.htm=A0=A0=A0=A0and go to =A0PCBCN at the bottom=
=A0or directly=A0


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--001636c5ad0d64478104656adbfa-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (rly-ma08.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.52]) by air-ma09.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMA093-8c349c780f05e; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 08:30:53 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA085-8c349c780f05e; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 08:30:42 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LljIY-0006zX-UP for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 12:30:34 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LljIY-0006zO-J4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 12:30:34 +0000 Received: from mail-qy0-f107.google.com ([209.85.221.107]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LljIV-0005WF-S4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 12:30:34 +0000 Received: by qyk5 with SMTP id 5so2416844qyk.30 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 05:30:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=XyzDcnCIOvM7CaBlnz7ktvJVD81jdxsKTyVrD/oMY2E=; b=lBKuk49DFfJ3B70h0zK/LZOASQ+ohqCBGDy3zc/NE7Dtlj52KYOmmKEtb3t6e9zaik Fp8z/bK2ZwsRgerpIZYOxrV05Z7UyNtNSwcIeitPHX8nvM2yvUxEJkvJto2eJwyJ2BNv vkt8gQo8gPbH+PGFe6y1LfTy8Y+xtejTU9oRU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=tnqRaWjSEzbAP01esU3LJplsez2IK0Y8Pn650czoHifSWvhD0xdufK4wGrl0zPZnPH VOv5ysdjkLCi7rwaR3ZOkUKHcBkS+Nl2GUS+Z5QgGaVo0ver2UwWfrCR/mUIq64wQs7F lbeOdFEWnZktkbNePOgRead2zJbbUmFVQ+6/4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.89.16 with SMTP id c16mr8647714qam.375.1237811425327; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 05:30:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 08:30:25 -0400 Message-ID: <57a24ca70903230530s41cc001dha25a27f146984c12@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: Re: LF: xgj Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR, UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d221.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Thanks Victor! -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 1:42 AM, wrote: > Hi Warren,lf > > very good copy of XGJ at 5:36z > > 73 > Victor From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de03.mx.aol.com (rly-de03.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.139]) by air-de05.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDE052-4c349d28f5d15a; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 17:47:29 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de03.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE034-4c349d28f5d15a; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 17:47:11 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lolmr-00030n-Hv for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 22:46:25 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lolmr-00030e-3u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 22:46:25 +0100 Received: from [193.252.22.190] (helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lolmo-0006iI-Tk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 22:46:25 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3602.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 375657000083 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 23:46:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.26.3]) by mwinf3602.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id EFAA47000082 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 23:46:14 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20090331214614981.EFAA47000082@mwinf3602.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <8E3C72ADB40D4EEA84C5615F936FCAD6@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 22:46:14 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8064.206 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8064.206 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Beacons Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0178_01C9B252.7EF11140" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0178_01C9B252.7EF11140 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Im running in the green slot 5 mins on 503.700 Will run till round 2400 gmt=20 G ..=20 From: dave.riley3=20 Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 9:07 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: LF: Beacons Any 600M beacons or sigs from EU tonight?? TNX Dave @ WD2XSH/17 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.5.285 / Virus Database: 270.11.35/2033 - Release Date: 03/31/09 1= 3:05:00 ------=_NextPart_000_0178_01C9B252.7EF11140 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Im running in the green slot 5 mins on=20 503.700
 
Will run till round  2400 gmt <= /DIV>
 
G ..

Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 9:07 PM
Subject: LF: Beacons

Any 600M beacons or sigs from EU=20 tonight??
 
 
TNX
 
Dave @ WD2XSH/17
 
 


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------=_NextPart_000_0178_01C9B252.7EF11140-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db01.mx.aol.com (rly-db01.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.76]) by air-db08.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDB081-aaa49bc549d2c8; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 21:06:55 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db01.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB018-aaa49bc549d2c8; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 21:06:39 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LienX-0003It-Ug for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 01:05:51 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LienX-0003Ik-D8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 01:05:51 +0000 Received: from imo-m14.mx.aol.com ([64.12.138.204]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LienU-0005md-GM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 01:05:51 +0000 Received: from F4DTL@aol.com by imo-m14.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id l.d6a.45f71cb9 (32914) for ; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 21:05:35 -0400 (EDT) From: F4DTL@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 21:05:35 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5029 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: Re: LF: DI2BO Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_d6a.45f71cb9.36edae5f_boundary" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --part1_d6a.45f71cb9.36edae5f_boundary Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1237079134" -------------------------------1237079134 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Nice copy this evening,with the strong PIA beacon on 440 kHz F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP RX : Icom IC7200 Ant: LF/MF Miniwhip -------------------------------1237079134 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Nice copy this evening,with the strong PIA beacon on 440 kHz
 
F4DTL=20 Nicolas JN18FP

RX : Icom IC7200
Ant: LF/MF=20 Miniwhip

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([65.55.111.169]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LkMTf-00073Y-6G for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 17:56:24 +0000 Received: from BLU146-W2 ([65.55.111.136]) by blu0-omc4-s30.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 19 Mar 2009 10:55:53 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [196.40.0.241] From: Laurence BY3A-KL1X China To: , , , Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 09:55:52 -0800 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <004601c9a82e$acdd0e20$6401a8c0@radiocomputer> References: <004601c9a82e$acdd0e20$6401a8c0@radiocomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Mar 2009 17:55:53.0013 (UTC) FILETIME=[F20E1650:01C9A8BB] X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_2f91566b-384b-43ad-8771-9364036bbe2e_" Subject: LF: RE: 600MRG> WD2XSH/6 tonight QRSS3 on 507.600 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com 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Ive not done a full run of all captures as Im up to my next in recabli= ng this commercial station.... =20 thanks for all the signals chaps!! http://kl1x.com/505.jpg =20 Laurence ti3/ kl 1 x Turriabla, Costa Rica - surrounded by mountains and vol= canoes....smoking too... =20 Ant was baby bottle probe at 11m next to a pasture.. =20 > From: pehamel@cableone.net > To: SHMRG@piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu > Subject: 600MRG> WD2XSH/6 tonight QRSS3 on 507.600 > Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 19:04:37 -0600 >=20 > WD2XSH/6 will be QRSS3 on 507.600 for reception by the KL1X DXpedition in=20 > Costa Rica. > If I am notified by email or otherwise that I am causing QRM or have been=20 > received, I will return to normal frequencies. > Thank you Lawrence for being there. > Pat >=20 >=20 >=20 > *********** The Primary 600MRG E-mail List Website is: ********** > ******************* http://www.500kc.com/ *********************** > ******* Secondary is: http://www.mines.uidaho.edu/~SHMRG/ ******* > *** Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to this address: **** > ************** majordomo@piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu ************** >=20 _________________________________________________________________ Express your personality in color! 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thanks for all the signals chaps!!
http://kl1x.com/505.jpg
 
Laurence ti3/ kl 1 x Turriabla, Costa Rica - surrounded by mountains and vol= canoes....smoking too...
 
Ant was baby bottle probe at 11m next to a pasture..

 
> From: pehamel@cableone.net
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> Subject: 600MRG> WD2XSH/6 tonight QRSS3 on 507.600<= BR>> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 19:04:37 -0600
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See how. =3D --_2f91566b-384b-43ad-8771-9364036bbe2e_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh07.mx.aol.com (rly-mh07.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.143]) by air-mh01.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMH012-be349cb524ffb; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 06:01:04 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh07.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH073-be349cb524ffb; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 06:00:49 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LmmMt-0007Sp-EQ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 09:59:23 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LmmMs-0007Pf-D3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 09:59:22 +0000 Received: from cpsmtpm-eml108.kpnxchange.com ([195.121.3.12]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LmmMp-00077H-Vv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 09:59:22 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 ([81.204.139.159]) by CPSMTPM-EML108.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.0.6001.18000); Thu, 26 Mar 2009 10:59:13 +0100 Message-ID: <174B457CEB8341A78801171367A4D35F@ns94d01ae4d850> From: "henny van elst" To: References: Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 10:59:14 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Mar 2009 09:59:13.0761 (UTC) FILETIME=[8476CD10:01C9ADF9] X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36 Subject: Re: LF: DD7PC SIGNAL.jpg Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 thats ok marco, henny van elst straatweg 100 maarssen 3604bd 73s ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scholz, Marco " To: Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 10:21 AM Subject: AW: LF: DD7PC SIGNAL.jpg > Hello Henny, > Many thanks for easy QRSS3 QSO (was just my number 8 on 137.7). > I send a capture of your signal this evening. > Please can I send my QSL card direct? I put in an envelope with a stamp > for your return. > > vy73 > Marco > DD7PC (in JN49ax) > > > ----- Originalnachricht ----- > Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > An: blacksheep > Gesendet: Thu Mar 26 08:58:08 2009 > Betreff: LF: DD7PC SIGNAL.jpg > > the capture marco > henny cpm > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.29/2023 - Release Date: 03/25/09 18:54:00 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md02.mx.aol.com (rly-md02.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.140]) by air-md01.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMD014-8f049bed06d1b4; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 18:20:09 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md02.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD028-8f049bed06d1b4; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 18:19:27 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LjL9X-00076w-P8 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 22:19:23 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LjL9W-00076j-M8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 22:19:22 +0000 Received: from smtp818.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([77.238.189.18]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LjL9U-0002PL-Ig for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 22:19:22 +0000 Received: (qmail 84739 invoked from network); 16 Mar 2009 22:19:15 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=XfyaP+eY+0CEH2m3yBvKulKRy1aW3gDZ5N+oUJDQOisFda4zaFSlJTj6R2xhMEtvJRSbMnF/3Bh0EKfr4uexuIuz+2KNFD2iDeZlVEhOBa1mIQwZtZh9hNZm0J1h8IKTzFaMxY1TnqB804lsvqOcC3flrrc5BbBa4xShJRBo8FI= ; Received: from unknown (HELO Lark) (alan.melia@213.122.3.124 with login) by smtp818.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Mar 2009 22:19:13 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: XMkRyDYVM1k6jopOtgBkM1Ek6bo_98UQYTo3wmB5XSRf96GBiUp2WxIEEVYsTNv_nc8BopvEEDpFgiMhL7FVzq1VDDHCl0zKjsrd0m7kZS3JPtx78BJdIaNVtiFhHMJ6uKu.2N8PBkL4Nc8sCLs0yAViRDExXC0jgsx28BH3u9.szsSOXuDU99bkj_OSovoP7qDNoVs50gozG6MPGi2T X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <003101c9a685$3c6ce340$0900a8c0@AM> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <009001c9a588$7eb02c60$6401a8c0@asus> <00e001c9a5a7$f07216a0$6401a8c0@asus> <826BA6086575402A8C87062492069F5A@AGB> <004501c9a623$a4bf81d0$6401a8c0@asus> <2ED02F4327204E3C903828F9E18AA72B@AGB> <001e01c9a665$ebeac870$6401a8c0@asus> <00be01c9a66e$c8bfdbc0$0900a8c0@AM> <004a01c9a677$2a8b48a0$6401a8c0@asus> <005101c9a679$df148f50$6401a8c0@asus> <005f01c9a680$636296c0$6401a8c0@asus> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 22:19:06 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Gary that looks better. Alan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 9:44 PM Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software > Andy, > > > > I inserted 10dB for the 2104 Tx & then 20dB but at the 2119 Tx there was a > very deep fade (QSB) which I also noted on a separate Rx. I will leave it at > 20dB for a longer period. > > > > Recent levels as below :- > > > > 20:45 65.81 40.29 -240.0 1499.7 > > 20:46 43.87 40.29 -240.0 0.0 > > 20:47 43.36 40.29 -240.0 0.0 > > 21:00 58.08 32.23 -240.0 1499.8 > > 21:01 37.72 32.23 -240.0 0.0 > > 21:02 34.32 32.23 -240.0 0.0 > > 21:15 32.47 25.55 -240.0 0.0 > > 21:16 28.19 25.55 -240.0 0.0 > > 21:17 31.14 25.55 -240.0 0.0 > > 21:30 58.90 27.07 -240.0 1499.7 > > 21:31 28.89 27.07 -240.0 0.0 > > 21:32 28.86 27.07 -240.0 0.0 > > > > Cheers, Gary. > > > > _____ > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Andy Talbot > Sent: 16 March 2009 21:03 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > Don't destroy your noise figure though. But at HF you can probably get away > with 20 dB at least. > > > Andy G4JNT > www.g4jnt.com > > > > 2009/3/16 Gary - G4WGT > > Andy, > > > > OK, I will insert an attenuator at the antenna socket (that's an easy move) > & watch how it performs. It is switched at 10dB steps so I will start at > 10db of course. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Gary. > > > > _____ > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Andy Talbot > Sent: 16 March 2009 20:45 > > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > Doesn't matter which - just total system gain. That S/W works best if the > noise threshold rides at about 10dB above the baseline, then it allows for > up to 70 - 80dB of signal peaks. > > > Andy G4JNT > www.g4jnt.com > > 2009/3/16 Gary - G4WGT > > Alan, > > When you wrote :- > > my only comment is that you may have too much gain in the system. > > Are you meaning sound card or receiver gain? > > Gary. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Alan Melia > Sent: 16 March 2009 19:38 > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software > > Hi Gary my only comment is that you may have too much gain in the system. It > is sometimes better to have the noise further down nearer the axis. > > I am afraid there is a major problem with this kind of beacon, when the > fading period is shorter than the sampling interval, so you dont really know > what the path is doing. The only reliable points are the peaks, the troughs > dont really mean anything without some very sophisticated analysis and > probably two spaced receivers. However it does give a snapshot of the band > without taking up too much bandwidth (this was what was required for 5MHz > too). Despite all the data collected very little analysis has actually be > done on the 5MHz data collected by this program. The one succesfull bit of > work was that published in Radcom by Marcis Walden G0IJZ. I used it for some > time whilst Andy was testing the Poldhu beacon on 160m and also during the > 1st two months that ran. I was certainly surprised by the daytime path on > 160m from here. I have seen the data collected in Canada via Joe Craig VO1NA > and it is difficult to see how to use it. > > Still if you dont collect the data you will never know!! > > Alan G3NYK > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gary - G4WGT" > To: > Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 6:35 PM > Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > Hi Graham, LF, > > > > > > > > The original HTML Code for the 2 minute refresh is still inserted into the > > page format, so upload is 30 minute intervals with Syncback & 2 minute > > refresh. I have left the refresh in case I revert back to the original > > grabber page. I will look at changing it if I continue to use the beacon > > chart upload. > > > > > > > > I would like to have feedback from the LF group regarding the page, if you > > check it out periodically, is it useful to you, what are you looking for. > > > > > > > > You can view the chart on my web site at :- > > > > > > > > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html > > > > > > > > 73 > > > > > > > > Gary - G4WGT. > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham > > Sent: 16 March 2009 17:20 > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > > > > > Hi Gary, > > > > > > > > The page seemed to refresh quite often ... are there two settings ? > > > > > > > > G .. > > > > > > > > From: Gary - G4WGT > > > > Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:40 AM > > > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > > > Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > > > > > Hi Graham, LF, > > > > > > > > You wrote :- > > > > >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute > > intervals. <<< that could be backed off to 15 mins as the beacon only > > sends every 15 ?? > > > > > > > > I mentioned in my previous mail to ignore the text on the page as it was > > originally for grabber 1 for when I upgrade the web site (to a new design > & > > better navigation etc), also mentioned is that upload is every 30 minutes. > > > > > > > > If the uploaded chart proves useful or interesting to operators & viewers > > then I will change the text & make it a permanent feature for the > > foreseeable future. > > > > > > > > BTW :- > > > > > > > > For those of you who are not familiar with the chart - > > > > > > > > The RED trace is Andy's (G4JNT) beacon signal & the BLACK trace is the > noise > > level at my QTH. > > > > > > > > The Blue & GREEN are not in use & should be ignored on this chart as they > > are for the other beacons used when monitoring on the 5MHz allocation. > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > Gary - G4WGT > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham > > Sent: 15 March 2009 22:17 > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > > > > > Gary.. > > > > > > > > That looks good ... 0500 looks best time for a qso .. see you then Smile > > emoticon > > > > > > > > >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute > > intervals. <<< that could be backed off to 15 mins as the beacon only > > sends every 15 ?? > > > > > > > > the 15 db over the noise in day time is the same at this qth .. looks > like > > the big dips round 1900 where just when we where testing .. typical hihi > > > > > > > > tnx- G .. > > > > > > > > From: Gary - G4WGT > > > > Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 7:55 PM > > > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > > > Subject: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > > > > > LF, > > > > > > > > I have now got the software, Syncback running correctly (I think). > > > > > > > > The purpose of this is to upload the chart from Andy's beacon as received > > here to my web site periodically, ie. every 30 minutes. > > > > > > > > I now have a receiver running 24/7 monitoring Andy,s beacon on 503.7KHz. > > > > > > > > You can view the chart on my web site at :- > > > > > > > > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html > > > > > > > > For the moment ignore the text on the page as it is originally designed to > > use with the 500KHz grabber when I renew my web site design. If it is a > > useful upload I will make it a permanent feature but may have to extend > the > > frequency coverage of grabber 1 so not to overload the PC with operations > > which will cause the PC to struggle. > > > > > > > > Let me have your comments please. > > > > > > > > 73 > > > > > > > > Gary - G4WGT. > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT > > Sent: 15 March 2009 16:10 > > To: LF -RSGB LF Group > > Subject: LF: Syncback software > > > > > > > > Hi LF, > > > > > > > > If anyone is using Syncback software & can help, please. > > > > > > > > I am tying to upload a file to my website who's filename does not change, > > only the file size changes. I tried to do it with Argo-upload but failed > so > > I downloaded Syncback & still failing. > > > > > > > > Syncback gives me the following message :- > > > > > > > > ********************************** > > > > Can connect, but unable to change to destination directory: > > > > /chart01.bmp:not a directory > > > > ********************************** > > > > The Syncback help does not give me the answer. > > > > > > > > Any help will be appreciated > > > > > > > > Or > > > > > > > > Will Argo-Upload do it? > > > > > > > > Or > > > > > > > > Is there something else to do it? > > > > > > > > Thanks in anticipation, > > > > > > > > 73, > > > > > > > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.13/2001 - Release Date: 03/14/09 > > 06:54:00 > > > > _____ > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 8.0.237 / 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4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LgPLs-0000wj-CS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 20:12:00 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2a26.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 976287000088 for ; Sun, 8 Mar 2009 21:11:52 +0100 (CET) Received: from JR (Mix-Dijon-106-3-215.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.248.130.215]) by mwinf2a26.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id BB94C700008D for ; Sun, 8 Mar 2009 21:11:51 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20090308201151768.BB94C700008D@mwinf2a26.orange.fr Message-ID: <200903082111260341.1879F498@smtp.wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <1794381892.23372.1236524009509.JavaMail.mail@webmail03> References: <1794381892.23372.1236524009509.JavaMail.mail@webmail03> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (P) Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2009 21:11:26 +0100 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: energy saving bulbs Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 I have not noticed any QRM with these bulbs, but I don't seem to get a much=20= greater life than with the traditional ones. Also, a few months ago one of=20= the IEE/IET journals carried a letter from a member who had dissected a dead= unit. It had more than 60 soldered joints, and he suggested that this migh= t cast doubt on the economics of the product over its whole life. I have found another problem. The control gear in these devices is often en= closed in a collar round the base. As most ceiling-mounted sockets (ES or b= ayonet) in this area have a ceramic collar, the new device cannot be inserte= d far enough into the socket to be energised. You have to change the socket= or (in the case of an ES socket) buy an ES to SES adapter and an SES energy= -saving bulb. Given that people have experienced much shorter lives for the= se bulbs than has been claimed, this does seem to raise questions about the=20= economics of these products. John Rabson=20 F5VLF 58800 Cervon France JN17vg *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 08/03/2009 at 14:53 Peter Cleall wrote: >For many years I have avoided using the energy saving bulbs under the >impression that they were major RF pollutents. I am under increasing >pressure to move to using these bulbs.=20 > >=20 > > Are my concerns still the case or are they old fashioned and out of date.=20 > >Do you have experience of using these bulbs in the home.=20 > >Do modern versions interfer with your Radio receiving , I am interested in >signals from 15 kHz to 500 MHz.=20 > >Are there specific types or manufactures to be avoided=20 > >Any thoughts would be appreciaated=20 > >regards=20 > >peter From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma05.mx.aol.com (rly-ma05.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.49]) by air-ma03.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMA034-8ae49b42ee85f; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 16:48:02 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma05.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA058-8ae49b42ee85f; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 16:47:38 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LgPu4-0002MC-Le for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 20:47:20 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LgPu3-0002M3-Ej for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 20:47:19 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.151] helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LgPu1-0002mm-Ky for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 20:47:19 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3532.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id B5A371C00082 for ; Sun, 8 Mar 2009 21:47:11 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.31.236]) by mwinf3532.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 932DD1C00081 for ; Sun, 8 Mar 2009 21:47:10 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20090308204710603.932DD1C00081@mwinf3532.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <09E4F4FB066B4A5993583B221520D530@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <28FA0F184B25444F8BA2F1EC5FC42C04@AGB> In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 20:47:09 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8064.206 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8064.206 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: AW: 503.7 Multi-function beacon ... Its working ! Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00C2_01C9A02F.0CED86D0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_00C2_01C9A02F.0CED86D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Andy,=20 Looks like I have a signal 6/10 db over the noise during the day from 1200= slow rise from 1500 peak at 1800 , dip at 1700 and + 23 dB at 2015 .. s= eems to be a 1 hour qsb cycle as well=20 I think Gary is set up also for 24 monitor period ... Im seeing signal lev= els recorded that are not showing on spec lab ..=20 Q, do you have some details of the beacon, power , erp, or web links I c= an add to the info page ?=20 Tnx- G .. =20 From: Andy Talbot=20 Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 6:26 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: AW: 503.7 Multi-function beacon ... Its working ! It is no trouble to continue the transmission. I have set up the equipment=20= in the garage where it does not get in the way of other shack activites, and= won't do too much damage if the euipment blows up! So I can leave it runni= ng for a few weeks unless the antenna is needed for other purposes.. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/3/8 Beckmann, Gerhard Hi Graham, Thank you for your statement! Well actually, especially Scattergram or equal measurement methods would b= e of interest regarding the aspect of signal path monitoring. (direct wave /= sky wave via cross correlation of pulse delay values). However, the aspect of interferences by using 500us pulses has to be taken= into consideration but may be there are coming up suitable solution by the=20= LF-group.=20 Another method of monitoring the signal path on 500 kHz could possibly per= formed by using the =93PSK Sounder=94 software from ZL2AFP. And what I saw o= n a first glance it should be usable for transmission and reception in order= to monitor the signal path situation. By the way:=20 Do you know if Andy is continuing the Multi-function beaconing on 503.7 kH= z? In this case I would try long term signal monitoring by GB3RAL.exe and PSK= message decoding within the next evening sessions. vy 73 de Gerhard / DK6NI =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacks= heep.org] Im Auftrag von Graham Gesendet: Sonntag, 8. M=E4rz 2009 15:36=20 An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Betreff: Re: LF: AW: 503.7 Multi-function beacon ... Its working !=20 Hi, Grerhard, Andy's post about the new beacon came out of the blue, (as is the signal= hihi), Working on this, I've simply added a page to the uk500khz news gro= up and posted links about to generate some interest and make sure the beaco= n details are known to hams and swl's out side this reflector ..=20 The only thing that occurs to me is that there is a possibility for recep= tion reports to be directed to the 5 meg group , I note that the graph gen= erator by G4IRX requests your call and locator before processing the file=20= and presenting you with a plot. so I will see if anything can be done to pr= event this , the data format is of course distorted by having only one activ= e beacon.. so it will show up .. but may as yet be unexpected ...! I note from previous email that the pulse aspect of the beacon is require= d for precise measurements, I think that may be possible to set up a 'experi= ment' but the aspect of interference to other users may be significant, An= dy has referred to the concept of 'phase reversal' in a continues carrier sy= stem (or medium pulse ?) that would perhaps be a acceptable mode of modulati= on, weather it could be transmitted by a 'normal' transmitter im note sure ,= but its worth noting that activities on 500, to date are not 'funded' as s= uch and time and capital out lay are part of the 'hobby' and such hardware r= equirements and software re-writes are beyond many of the active stations.=20= but perhaps as interest spreads .. things may change ..?=20 Tnx-=20 Graham G0NBD IO83LK From: Beckmann, Gerhard=20 Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 11:06 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Cc: 'Robert Hemesley'=20 Subject: LF: AW: 503.7 Multi-function beacon ... Its working ! Hello Graham, Hello Andy,=20 reading about your activities concerning Multi-function beacon I tried yes= terday evening to catch your signals, but unfortunately with no results copy= ing your sig. May be condx were not good enough. Moreover I had some bad ma= nmade QRM from TV and PC. As Rob Hemesley told you I am active in 5-MHz-beaco- monitoring spec= ially concerning scattergram monitoring in order to analyse signal path sit= uation (direct wave / sky wave behaviour). But I am running both analysis software, GB3RAL.exe and Scattergram.= exe and it would not be any problem to modify the internal PC-clock speciall= y regarding GB3RAL.exe in order to analyse the long term signal level of you= r Multi-function beacon. So I will try to continue monitoring your Multi-fun= ction beacon hopefully that condx will be better in the next evening session= s (hi). If there will be Scattergram acties in future I certainly need some=20= more dB signal level, but it would be very interesting to investigate the si= gnal path situation. Of course, this is more interesting for those participants who are l= ocated in a distance range between 150 and 300 km in order to monitor the sl= ide crossover from direct wave to sky wave signal path.=20 However, thank you very much for implementation of your very intere= sting Multi-function beacon project and I will keep on running my monitoring= activities and will inform you in any case about further results. vy 73 and a lot of success by running Multi-function beacons, I will be=20= =93on the qui vive=94 !!! de Gerhard / DK6NI (JN59LN) By the way:=20 Dial frequency 505.2 kHz, is that o.k.? (because GB3RAL.exe is decoding wi= th 1500 Hz too). For BPSK31-decoding I am using DigiPan Vers.2.0 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacks= heep.org] Im Auftrag von Graham Gesendet: Samstag, 7. M=E4rz 2009 23:46 An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Betreff: LF: 503.7 Multi-function beacon ... Its working ! So far so good .. quite a step up in signal round 2100 hrs =20 no frequency decode before then , 15 db over noise at 2130 but a trend showing=20 about 1 hour slow qsb=20 any other reports ? G ..=20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.9/1988 - Release Date: 03/06/09=20= 19:17:00 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.9/1989 - Release Date: 03/07/09 18= :43:00 ------=_NextPart_000_00C2_01C9A02F.0CED86D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Andy,
 
Looks like I have a signal 6/10 db over the=  =20 noise during the  day from 1200  slow rise from 1500  peak at= =20 1800 , dip at 1700  and  + 23 dB at 2015 .. seems to  be a 1=20= hour=20 qsb cycle as well
 
I think Gary is set up  also for = 24=20 monitor period ... Im seeing signal levels recorded that are not  showi= ng=20 on spec lab ..
 
Q, do you  have some details of the&nb= sp;=20 beacon,  power , erp, or  web links I can add to  the in= fo=20 page ?
 
Tnx- G ..  
 

Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 6:26 PM
Subject: Re: LF: AW: 503.7 Multi-function beacon ... Its working= =20 !

It is no trouble to continue the transmission.  I have set up the=20 equipment in the garage where it does not get in the way of other shack=20 activites, and won't do too much damage if the euipment blows up!  So I= can=20 leave it running for a few weeks unless the antenna is needed for other=20 purposes..

Andy  G4JNT
= www.g4jnt.com


2009/3/8 Beckmann, Gerhard <beckmann.erlangen@freenet.= de>

Hi=20 Graham,

 

Thank you=20 for your statement!

Well=20 actually, especially Scattergram or equal measurement methods would be of=20 interest regarding the aspect of signal path monitoring. (direct wave / sk= y=20 wave via cross correlation of pulse delay values).

However,=20 the aspect of interferences by using 500us pulses has to be taken into=20 consideration but may be there are coming up suitable solution by the=20 LF-group.

Another=20 method of monitoring the signal path on 500 kHz could possibly performed b= y=20 using the =93PSK Sounder=94 software from ZL2AFP. And what I saw on a firs= t glance=20 it should be usable for transmission and reception in order to monitor the= =20 signal path situation.

 

By the=20 way:

Do you=20 know if Andy is continuing the Multi-function beaconing on 503.7=20 kHz?

In this=20 case I would try long term signal monitoring by GB3RAL.exe and PSK message= =20 decoding within the next evening sessions.

 

vy 73 de=20 Gerhard / DK6NI

 

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

 

 

 

Von: o= wner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blackshe= ep.org] Im Auftrag von <= /B>Graham
Gesendet: S= onntag, 8. M=E4rz 2009 15:36=20


An: rsgb_l= f_group@blacksheep.org
Betreff: Re: LF: AW: 503.7 Multi-function=20 beacon ... Its working !=20

 

Hi,=20 Grerhard,

 

Andy's post about the  new=20 beacon came out of the  blue, (as is the signal hihi), Working on thi= s,=20  I've simply added a page to the  uk500khz news group and posted= =20 links about to  generate some interest and make sure the=20 beacon details are known to hams and swl's out side this reflector ..= =20

 

The only thing that occurs=20 to  me is that there is a possibility for reception reports to be&nbs= p;=20 directed to the 5 meg group , I note that the  graph generator by=20 G4IRX  requests your call and locator  before processing the fil= e=20 and presenting you with a plot. so I will see if anything can be done to&n= bsp;=20 prevent this , the data format is of course distorted by having only one=20 active beacon.. so it will show up .. but may as yet be unexpected=20 ...!

 

I=20 note from previous email that the pulse aspect of the  beacon is requ= ired=20 for precise measurements, I think that may be possible to set up a=20 'experiment'  but the aspect of interference to  other users may= be=20 significant, Andy has referred to the concept of 'phase reversal' in a=20 continues carrier system (or medium pulse ?) that would perhaps be a=20 acceptable mode of modulation, weather it could be transmitted by a 'norma= l'=20 transmitter im note sure , but its worth noting that activities on 500, to= =20 date  are not 'funded' as such and time and capital out lay are part=20= of=20 the 'hobby' and such hardware requirements  and software re-writes ar= e=20 beyond many of the active stations. but perhaps as interest spreads .. thi= ngs=20 may change ..?

 

Tnx-

 

Graham

 

G0NBD

IO83LK

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

From:<= /SPAN> Beckmann, Gerhard=20

Sent:<= /SPAN> Sunday,=20 March 08, 2009 11:06 AM

Subjec= t: LF: AW:=20 503.7 Multi-function beacon ... Its working=20 !

 

Hello Graham, Hello Andy,

 

reading about your activities concerning Multi-fun= ction beacon I=20 tried yesterday evening to catch your signals, but unfortunately with no=20 results copying your sig. May be condx were not good enough.  Moreove= r I=20 had some bad manmade QRM from TV and PC.

 

      As Rob Hemesley tol= d you I am active=20 in 5-MHz-beaco- monitoring specially concerning  scattergram monitori= ng=20 in order to analyse signal path situation (direct wave / sky wave=20 behaviour).

      But I am running bo= th analysis=20 software, GB3RAL.exe and Scattergram.exe and it would not be any problem t= o=20 modify the internal PC-clock specially regarding GB3RAL.exe in order to=20 analyse the long term signal level of your Multi-function beacon. So I wil= l=20 try to continue monitoring your Multi-function beacon hopefully that condx= =20 will be better in the next evening sessions (hi).

      If there will be Sc= attergram acties=20 in future I certainly need some more dB signal level, but it would be very= =20 interesting to investigate the signal path situation.

      Of course, this is=20= more interesting=20 for those participants who are located in a distance range between 150 and= 300=20 km in order to monitor the slide crossover from direct wave to sky wave si= gnal=20 path.

       However, than= k you very much=20 for implementation of your very interesting Multi-function beacon project=20= and=20 I will keep on running my monitoring activities and will inform you in any= =20 case about further results.

 

vy 73 and a lot of success by running Multi-functi= on beacons, I=20 will be =93on the qui vive=94 !!!

 

de Gerhard  /  DK6NI  (JN59LN)

 

By the way:

Dial frequency 505.2 kHz, is that o.k.? (because G= B3RAL.exe is=20 decoding with 1500 Hz too).

For BPSK31-decoding I am using DigiPan Vers.2.0

 

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

 

 

 

Von: o= wner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blackshe= ep.org] Im Auftrag von <= /B>Graham
Gesendet: S= amstag, 7. M=E4rz 2009=20 23:46
An: rsgb_lf_group@b= lacksheep.org
Betreff: LF: 503.7 Multi-function beacon=20 ... Its working !

 

So far so good .. quite a step up=20 in signal round 2100 hrs 

no frequency decode before then ,=20 15 db over noise at 2130

 

but a trend showing=20

about  1 hour slow qsb=20

 

any other reports=20 ?

 

G=20 ..

 


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(rly-md05.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.143]) by air-md03.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMD032-90649c15b5a3c; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 16:36:59 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md05.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD056-90649c15b5a3c; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 16:36:44 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lk2VE-0002U9-Od for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 20:36:40 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lk2VE-0002U0-DB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 20:36:40 +0000 Received: from imo-m27.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.8]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lk2VB-00016y-UC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 20:36:40 +0000 Received: from F4DTL@aol.com by imo-m27.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id l.c27.58d6e0d7 (33856) for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 16:35:26 -0400 (EDT) From: F4DTL@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 16:35:25 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5029 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: DTL 18-03.jpg Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1237408525" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 -------------------------------1237408525 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 Thanx Henny, im beaconing with 200w until 2130Z 137776 QRSS60. 10m vertical antenna very small capacitive hat. =20 Seen with the DF6NM grabber my friend DD7PC,hello Marco. =20 =20 F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP _http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/_ (http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/)=20 =20 =20 =20 Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 18/03/2009 21:25:21 Paris, Madrid, cpm@planet.nl a=20= =20 =E9crit : Hi lf, capture DTL Henny pa3cpm 73s =20 =20 =20 -------------------------------1237408525 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanx Henny, im beaconing with 200w until 2130Z 137776 QRSS60.
10m vertical antenna very small capacitive hat.
 
Seen with the DF6NM grabber my friend DD7PC,hello=20 Marco.
 
 
 
 
Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 18/03/2009 21:25:21 Paris, Madrid, cpm@planet.= nl a=20 =E9crit :
Hi lf,
capture DTL
Henny pa3cpm
73s
 
 
 
 -------------------------------1237408525-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc01.mx.aol.com (rly-dc01.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.30]) by air-dc01.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDC014-b0449bfa94188; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 09:44:40 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc01.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC018-b0449bfa94188; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 09:44:34 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LjZab-0002uG-2u for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 13:44:17 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LjZaa-0002u7-GF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 13:44:16 +0000 Received: from bay0-omc3-s28.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.228]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LjZaZ-0002OS-BJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 13:44:16 +0000 Received: from BAY101-W28 ([64.4.56.128]) by bay0-omc3-s28.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 17 Mar 2009 06:43:54 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [212.4.140.33] From: Lubos OK2BVG To: Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 14:43:54 +0100 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Mar 2009 13:43:54.0195 (UTC) FILETIME=[69B60A30:01C9A706] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_53a77ce4-a69d-4f1d-8d3f-8e7c9691fc62_" Subject: LF: XGJ X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_53a77ce4-a69d-4f1d-8d3f-8e7c9691fc62_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Warren, LF! I wasn=B4t on 137.777kHz last night, becouse my beacon OK0EMW transmitted..=20= But I will be ready this night and I am just looking forward to your signal.= =20 73 Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS=20 _________________________________________________________________ Pozvi sv=E9 p=F8=E1tele z Facebooku a Hotmailu do Messengeru! https://www.invite2messenger.net/Default.aspx=3D --_53a77ce4-a69d-4f1d-8d3f-8e7c9691fc62_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Warren, LF!
I wasn=B4t on 137.777kHz last night, becouse my beacon=20= OK0EMW transmitted. But I will be ready this night and I am just looking for= ward to your signal.

73 Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

St=E1h= n=ECte si zcela nov=FD Messenger 2009! Klikni zde! =3D --_53a77ce4-a69d-4f1d-8d3f-8e7c9691fc62_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (rly-dd04.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.151]) by air-dd06.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDD064-b7249c01b5c2d9; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 17:51:41 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD044-b7249c01b5c2d9; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 17:51:27 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LjhBx-0007c3-Mh for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 21:51:21 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LjhBx-0007bu-Bo for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 21:51:21 +0000 Received: from smtp1-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.1]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LjhBv-000336-Eu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 21:51:21 +0000 Received: from smtp1-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp1-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCEAD940143 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 22:51:16 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp1-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id C937E9400B5 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 22:51:13 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <49C01B51.2050905@online.fr> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 22:51:13 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <49C01194.2010305@online.fr> <3225EC660BC1470A9C61BCCA76E5AEAD@Black> In-Reply-To: <3225EC660BC1470A9C61BCCA76E5AEAD@Black> X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: [137kHz] Test de f1afj qrss60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Markus , Thank you for report , 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj Markus Vester a =E9crit : > ....up to about 0.5 uV/m on this grabber. Well done Jean-Pierre! > > Good luck de Markus, DF6NM > > > ----- Original Message -----=20 > From: ""Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 (F1AFJ)"" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 10:09 PM > Subject: LF: [137kHz] Test de f1afj qrss60 > > > Hello LF > I am in test on 137775 qrss60, 300 W until 22:00z > Your reports will be welcome > 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj > > > > > > =20 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me07.mx.aol.com (rly-me07.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.41]) by air-me04.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME041-9c749c780531a2; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 08:28:26 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me07.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME073-9c749c780531a2; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 08:28:06 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LljG6-0006jx-E1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 12:28:02 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LljG6-0006jo-2E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 12:28:02 +0000 Received: from qw-out-1920.google.com ([74.125.92.144]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LljG3-0005Se-5u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 12:28:01 +0000 Received: by qw-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 5so1039634qwc.16 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 05:27:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=c/cfGgXbJyvAil3SaWfGn3S6I+WIajSwSZoNOXhiwnA=; b=e+15sANAXPIe57VGwCcUNl+j7oZxzmYbUTi3878GZ68sVjnk1nAE9uxxL/M4V7QjsS Iu11xFzWpHam9rG5ATPFlfGwQ23xi4JiWDNESDSO1rKmWderLJ36eOltsjI2T4bGl4Go wTeJ1fnSGoh+tYFjrSMaDNKydhN8ER1I2Tz1M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=s2PU+oYdC5ut1yUMF8SPXeyJOoaaMmuql60S7mzZvrBkHJ5sW2O+HOaynVQ8qu0X5u looB69yW3zYUkHTvPfFQzC07SiZIio4+3NnWARkU9322URcQjnahHH7PAp5rCEKuKhbK AGQLi8HgM++bjCmbz8xpcm+5StCLRdjTkdCRU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.15.10 with SMTP id i10mr8748126qaa.11.1237811277215; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 05:27:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <6D5F38706EE348D3BC8A9202CE57C5FD@ns94d01ae4d850> References: <6D5F38706EE348D3BC8A9202CE57C5FD@ns94d01ae4d850> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 08:27:57 -0400 Message-ID: <57a24ca70903230527u2e6c7depa584090feb8b01f@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: XGJ 23-03.jpg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d272.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Henny, Great capture, thank you! -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 2009/3/23 henny van elst : > Hi Warren and Lf, > capture XGJ > Henny pa3cpm > best 73s > > et bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden > verzonden: > XGJ 23-03.jpg > > Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen > het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. > Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe > bijlagen worden afgehandeld. -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg07.mx.aol.com (rly-dg07.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.91]) by air-dg02.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDG024-5d949bd6638fa; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 16:34:19 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg07.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG072-5d949bd6638fa; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 16:34:02 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lix1h-00006q-4U for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 20:33:41 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lix1g-00006h-88 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 20:33:40 +0000 Received: from mout4.freenet.de ([195.4.92.94]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lix1e-0005I4-Ed for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 20:33:40 +0000 Received: from [195.4.92.17] (helo=7.mx.freenet.de) by mout4.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID beckmann.erlangen@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #76) id 1Lix1d-0006JG-0V; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 21:33:37 +0100 Received: from w1813.w.pppool.de ([89.58.24.19]:4553 helo=2a2d7ed321c6425) by 7.mx.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID beckmann.erlangen@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #79) id 1Lix1Z-0001eT-OG; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 21:33:36 +0100 From: "Beckmann, Gerhard" To: Cc: "'Chris Osborn'" References: <661888.79627.qm@web28507.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <0ADA06CA43A34FB2A0AF972E6D77252A@2a2d7ed321c6425> Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 21:33:31 +0100 Message-ID: <0D4B40D74E95431CB1D9C0492A9FEB2B@2a2d7ed321c6425> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: AclxcDZq9dgJStjFRyyzJejyT3EpWgAZTqFQDC15OiAAyFt0oA== In-Reply-To: X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Subject: LF: G3XIZ calling CQ in normal CW Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0010_01C9A5B5.B1EA8490" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C9A5B5.B1EA8490 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Chris, Group, =20 Again I am receiving your CQ-Call in Normal CW-Mode !!! on 502.7 kHz loud an= d clear,=20 vy fine audible here in JN59LN.=20 =20 Sri, I don=E2=80=99t have a possibility for a crossband QSO on 3.566 MHz at=20= the moment. =20 vy 73 de Gerhard // DK6NI =20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =20 _____ =20 Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blackshe= ep.org] Im Auftrag von Beckmann, Gerhard Gesendet: Donnerstag, 8. Januar 2009 22:43 An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Cc: 'Chris Osborn' Betreff: LF: 500 kHz - Silent majority =20 Hallo Chris, =20 just now I read your sad message about reducing your CW-activities on 500 kc= . Because this band is unfortunately still not released for German radio amate= urs, I am often listening for stations in CW- and QRSS - Mode, and I am alwa= ys happy to hear someone on this very interesting frequency. Also it should be taken into consideration, that not all OM=E2=80=99s are fa= miliar with the new Digital Modes on this experimental band. So I would be very happy if there would operate some OM=E2=80=99s still in t= he =E2=80=9Ctraditional modes=E2=80=9D. Last but not least only these modes are allowing crossband.QSO=E2=80=99s whi= ch are making our hobby somewhat more interesting. =20 vy 73 de Gerhard / DK6NI =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 _____ =20 Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blackshe= ep.org] Im Auftrag von Chris Osborn Gesendet: Donnerstag, 8. Januar 2009 10:02 An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Betreff: LF: 500 kHz - Silent majority =20 I deduce that my (fairly) frequent transmissions on MF may be causing some annoyance and inconvenience to local stations. =20 Consequently I shall be QRT on 500 kHz for the remainder of this month. This will give local stations an opportunity to use a quiet band without G3XIZ QRM. =20 I must report that sadly Adrian G4GDR has dismantled his MF equipment and returned his N.O.V. to OfCom. He was an active and keen MF operator and constructor but has lost interest=20= due to lack of activity. I for one will miss him. =20 73 Chris G3XIZ =20 =20 =20 _____ =20 From: Dave G3WCB To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Monday, 5 January, 2009 22:22:55 Subject: RE: LF: Re: Silent majority =EF=BB=BF=20 Dear LF,=20 =20 Geri DK8KW and Markus did some interesting slow-voice experiments on 137 kHz= a few years back.=20 =20 Definitely not a DX-mode, and a bit of a bandwidth-gobbler too ;-) =20 Follow the link below:-=20 =20 http://www.qru.de/slowvoice.html =20 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM =20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep..org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacks= heep.org]On Behalf Of M0FMT Sent: 05 January 2009 02:37 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep..org Subject: Re: LF: Re: Silent majority Hi LF=20 Since by general consent the 600m band is now wide open for experimentation=20= of whatever computer aided mode that can be down loaded for free off the Int= ernet. Might I suggest the use of SSTV. They say a picture is worth a 1000 w= ords. I have thousands of holiday snaps I would like to share with the world= by way of a 24/7 beaconing experiment. The result may be a bit more intere= sting than the shopping lists of stations worked, equipment lists and rig sp= ecifications that get churned out ad nauseam over the weekends.=20 I am not sure what my afore mentioned local Amateur Radio 600m op friends wo= uld feel being only a few miles away from my QTH.=20 No, the above suggestion is ridiculous. It does however, Einstein, Planck et= al withstanding, beg the question; what is a suitable maximum bandwidth for= the development of new modes on our British 3Kc/s 600m band? I will start=20= the ball rolling by saying a BW no more than 50c/s. G3PLX managed with less=20= than 32c/s BW. Since there is a QSB / QRN issue on this band then hand shaki= ng could be introduced to ensure error free data transfer a bit like X25 slo= w but sure yet confined in a very narrow bandwidth say 50c/s max. We need t= o think outside the box and not try to shoe horn unsuitable modes onto 600m.= To evoke names like Planck and co with all due respect to Alberto (who I ad= mire immensely for his great innovations with DSP, SDR, FFT processing softw= are) I think, is over the top. Nobody is into book burning and denial of sp= ectrum to impede progress but we only have 3kc/s to play with here in the UK= . I consider myself a =E2=80=9Cgrunt=E2=80=9D operator not a highflying=20= =E2=80=9CEinstein=E2=80=9D radio spectrum quantum mechanic, but I would hope= we are trying to do more with less and I don=E2=80=99t think Olivia is the=20= answer. Whatever modes are proposed and developed, I would expect one of the= cardinal points in their specification, along with very narrow BW, to be co= mpatibility with adjacent modes like CW and the effect on adjacent stations=20= not running that particular mode.=20 In the mean time I am hoping to improve my manual CW skills assuming there a= re any stations still interested in that form of error correcting narrow ban= d data transfer and are still prepared to QSO with me.=20 Now retreating into my cave with my knuckles dragging along the ground.=20 Vy 73 petefmt=20 --- On Mon, 5/1/09, Alberto di Bene wrote: From: Alberto di Bene Subject: LF: Re: Silent majority To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Monday, 5 January, 2009, 12:05 AM Steve McDonald wrote: >> There is virtually nothing new to discover or invent that has not already >> taken place on MF. >=20 > There you go guys. You may as well stop your 600m experiments right now as > Mal has proclaimed that there is "nothing new to discover". Wouldn't it be > wonderful if we could all see the future as clearly as he apparently does. > What an amazing gift. >=20 > VE7SL / Steve =20 This reminds me what Max Planck did write at the beginning of past century. At the turn of the 20th century scientists were absolutely certain that ther= e was nothing more to be discovered in theoretical physics. Max Planck, recalling the mood of optimism and conviction at that time, wrot= e: =20 =E2=80=9CWhen I began my physical studies [in Munich in 1874] and sought adv= ice from my venerable teacher Phillipp von Jolly... he portrayed to me physics as a highly developed almost fully matured science.... Possibly in one or another nook there would perhaps be a dust particle or a small bubble to be examined and classified, but the system as a whole stood there fairly secured, and theoretical physics approached visibly that degree of perfection which, for example, geometry has had already for centuries=E2=80=9D. =20 The history of physics during the 20th century did show how dumb was that point of view... =20 73 Alberto I2PHD =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C9A5B5.B1EA8490 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello Chris, G= roup,

 

Again I am rec= eiving your CQ-Call in Normal CW-Mode !!! on 502.7 kHz loud and clear,

vy fine audibl= e here in JN59LN.

 

Sri, I don=E2= =80=99t have a possibility for a crossband QSO on 3.566 MHz at the moment.

 

vy 73 de Gerha= rd  //  DK6NI

 

=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

 =

Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von Beckmann, Gerhard
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 8. Janu= ar 2009 22:43
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Cc: 'Chris Osborn'
Betreff: LF: 500 kHz - Silent majority

 

Hallo Chris,<= o:p>

 

just now I read your sad message about r= educing your CW-activities on 500 kc.

Because this band= is unfortunately still not released for German radio amateurs, I am often listening for stations in CW- and QRSS - Mode, and I am always happy to hear someone on this very interesting frequency.

Also it should be taken into consideration, that not=20= all OM=E2=80=99s are familiar with the n= ew Digital Modes on this experimental band.

So I would be very happy if there would operate some=20= OM=E2=80=99s still in the =E2=80=9Ctradi= tional modes=E2=80=9D.

Last but not least only these modes are allowing cros= sband.QSO=E2=80=99s which are making our hobby somewhat more interesting.

 

vy 73 de Gerhard  /  DK6NI

 

 

 

 

 =

Von:= owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g] Im Auftrag von Chris Osborn
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 8. Janu= ar 2009 10:02
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Betreff: LF: 500 kHz - Silent majority

 

I deduce that my (fairly) frequent transmissions on MF m= ay be causing

some annoyance and inconvenience to local stations.=

 

Consequently I shall be QRT on 500 kHz for the remainder= of this month.

This will give local stations an opportunity to use = ;a quiet band without

G3XIZ QRM.

 

I must report that sadly Adrian G4GDR has dismantled his= MF equipment

and returned his N.O.V. to OfCom.

He was an active and keen MF operator and constructor bu= t has lost interest due

to lack of activity.

I for one will miss him.

 

73 Chris G3XIZ

 


 

 

From: Dave G3WCB <ganymede444@btopenworld.com>
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Sent: Monday, 5 January, 2009 22:22:55
Subject: RE: LF: Re: Silent majority

=EF=BB=BF

Dear LF, =

 

Geri DK8KW and Markus d= id some interesting slow-voice experiments on 137 kHz a few years back.

 

Definitely not a DX-mod= e, and a bit of a bandwidth-gobbler too ;-)

 

Follow the link below:-=

 

 

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM

 =

-----Original Mess= age-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@bla= cksheep..org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of M0F= MT
Sent: 05 January 2009 02:37 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= .org
Subject: Re: LF: Re: Silent majority

Hi LF

Since by=20= general consent the 600m band is now wide open for experimentation of whatever computer aided mode that can be down loaded for free off the Internet. Might I suggest th= e use of SSTV. They say a picture is worth a 1000 words. I have thousands of holiday snaps I would like to share with the world by way of a 24/7 beacon= ing experiment.  The result may be a bit more interesting than the shoppi= ng lists of stations worked, equipment lists and rig specifications that get churned out ad nauseam over th= e weekends.

I am not=20= sure what my afore mentioned local Amateur Radio 600m op friends would feel being only a few miles away from my QTH.

No, the a= bove suggestion is ridiculous. It does however, Einstein, Planck et al withstanding, beg t= he question; what is a suitable maximum bandwidth for the development of new modes on our British 3Kc/s 600m band?  I will start the ball rolling=20= by saying a BW no more than 50c/s. G3PLX managed with less than 32c/s BW. Sin= ce there is a QSB / QRN issue on this band then hand shaking could be introdu= ced to ensure error free data transfer a bit like X25 slow but sure yet confin= ed in a very narrow bandwidth say 50c/s max.  We need to think outside t= he box and not try to shoe horn unsuitable modes onto 600m. To evoke names li= ke Planck and co with all due respect to Alberto (who I admire immensely for=20= his great innovations with DSP, SDR, FFT processing software) I think,  i= s over the top. Nobody is into book burning and denial of spectrum to impede progress but we only have 3kc/s to play with here in the UK.  I consi= der myself a =E2=80=9Cgrunt=E2=80=9D operator not a highflying =E2=80=9CEinste= in=E2=80=9D radio spectrum quantum mechanic, but I would hope we are trying to do more with less and I don= =E2=80=99t think Olivia is the answer. Whatever modes are proposed and developed, I would expect one of the cardinal points in their specification, along with very narrow BW, to be compatibility with adjacent modes like CW and the effect on adjacent stations not running that particular mode.

In the me= an time I am hoping to improve my manual CW skills assuming there are any stations still interest= ed in that form of error correcting narrow band data transfer and are still prepared to QSO with me.

Now retre= ating into my cave with my knuckles dragging along the ground.

Vy 73 pet= efmt



--- On Mon, 5/1/09, Alberto di Bene <dibene@usa.net> wrote:

From: Alberto di Bene <dibene@usa.net>
Subject: LF: Re: Silent majority
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Monday, 5 January, 2009, 12:05 AM

=
Steve McDonald wrote:
>> There is virtu=
ally nothing new to discover or invent that has not=

already
>> taken place on MF.
> 
> There=
 you go guys. You may as well stop your 600m experiments right now as
> Mal has proclaimed that there is "nothing=
 new to discover".
Wouldn't it be
> wonderful if we could all see the future as cl=
early as he apparently does.
> What an ama=
zing gift.
> 
> VE7SL / Steve
 
This reminds me what Max Planck did write at the beginning of=
 past century.
At the turn of the 20th centur=
y scientists were absolutely certain that there
was nothing more to be discovered in theoretical physics.
Max Planck, recalling the mood of optimism and conviction at=
 that time, wrote:
 
=E2=80=9CWhen I began my physical studies [in Munich in 1874] an=
d sought advice from
my venerable teacher Phi=
llipp von Jolly... he portrayed to me physics as a<=
/pre>
highly developed almost fully matured science.... Possibly in one or a=
nother
nook there would perhaps be a dust par=
ticle or a small bubble to be examined
and cl=
assified, but the system as a whole stood there fairly secured, and
theoretical physics approached visibly that degree of=
 perfection which,
for example, geometry has=20=
had already for centuries=E2=80=9D.
&nbs=
p;
The history of physics during the 20th century=20=
did show how dumb was that
point of view...<=
o:p>
 
73 =
; Alberto  I2PHD
 
 
 
 

 

 

------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C9A5B5.B1EA8490-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg06.mx.aol.com (rly-dg06.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.90]) by air-dg03.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDG034-5cf49c0edab19; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 08:49:12 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg06.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG062-5cf49c0edab19; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 08:48:46 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LjvCA-0006KF-Ak for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 12:48:30 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LjvC9-0006K6-6J for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 12:48:29 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-4-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.55]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LjvC6-00017X-RA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 12:48:29 +0000 X-Trace: 165424636/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.59.96/None/g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.59.96 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Microsoft Office Outlook 11Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvIHACOKwElYajtg/2dsb2JhbACCUlQxE4U6fYNixTcHg3UG X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,384,1233532800"; d="gif'147?scan'147,208,217,147";a="165424636" Received: from 88-106-59-96.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.59.96]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 18 Mar 2009 12:48:23 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <005501c9a73b$dd0b8ac0$6401a8c0@asus> <007901c9a74b$9e595450$6401a8c0@asus> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 12:48:22 -0000 Message-ID: <000f01c9a7c7$d31e2b30$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AcmnvI5OJ/MzBfN+Q/agynQ2sfR4ygACv48g X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: RE: LF: RE: Who's playing on 503.7 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0010_01C9A7C7.D31E2B30" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C9A7C7.D31E2B30 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0011_01C9A7C7.D3209C30" ------=_NextPart_001_0011_01C9A7C7.D3209C30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit OK Andy, Yes, they looked the same strength as your main beacon signal. Thanks for the previous mail containing the brief explanation of the SNR feature. 73 Gary - G4WGT. _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Andy Talbot Sent: 18 March 2009 11:24 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: RE: Who's playing on 503.7 I sometimes flick the test switch and send a carrier - so you're probably seeing those. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/3/17 Gary - G4WGT Andy, >>>> Did the messages about the modified beacon timing software get though this reflector - don't appear to see them in the in box? I received the original & the correction to the url. OK, I used "decode" as the first word that came out of my head. I have looked at the black trace on my beacon chart & it doesn't seem to coincide with the peaks on the blue & green trace, there is a black peak but slightly offset. On my grabber saves there is very high noise level for a couple of minutes some times the blue & green has a peak which shows on the text log as well. But I have also seen very short carriers which I thought at first were part of you normal beacon signal & when looking carefully at the timestamp were at the following times - 1735, 1750 & 1751. At these times there was no burst of noise. Cheers, Gary - G4WGT. _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Andy Talbot Sent: 17 March 2009 20:36 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: RE: Who's playing on 503.7 continued ... The black trace gives it away. If there is extended QRM that spans the noise measurement period (which is the WHOLE minute before) and the 5s Tx period it will show up on both. The different system of noise measurement explains why the (no QRMed) green and blue traces are not sitting on top of teh black trace. Ideally, with no signal there, they should. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/3/17 Andy Talbot I filled in a couple at 1800, deliberately, by flicking the test switch on my beacon Tx. But there are too many peaks on the green annd blue traces to not suspect someone else is firing up a Tx. Its not a case of false decodes - there's not such thing as a 'decode' with this monitoring S/W. All it does is to measure the signal power over precisely this time slot, using a synchronised FFT with a bin size of 0.2Hz, which after windowing gives about 0.4Hz noise bandwidth. So any QRM would have to be quite strong to make a significant impact, and persist over 5 seconds. Short spikes get averaged out to not-a-lot. Did the messages about the modified beacon timing software get though this reflector - don't appear to see them in the in box? If not, http://www.g4jnt.com/beacons.htm at the bottom look for PCBCN Directly, http://www.g4jnt.com/PCBCN.zip Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/3/17 Gary - G4WGT Hi Andy, LF, I have not detected anything here other than your Tx. I was going to e-mail anyway because I have some false decodes on the 5 & 6 minute slots, see list below. These coincide with high bursts of noise which I experience here from time to time. Is there an issue with the decode software being "foxed" by high noise level? Gary - G4WGT. 15:45 40.35 25.76 -240.0 0.0 15:46 41.05 25.76 -240.0 1499.5 15:47 39.52 25.76 -240.0 0.0 16:00 41.70 25.75 -240.0 1499.5 16:01 41.62 25.75 -240.0 1510.6 16:02 31.49 25.75 -240.0 0.0 16:15 40.10 25.47 -240.0 0.0 16:16 30.16 25.47 -240.0 0.0 16:17 29.17 25.47 -240.0 0.0 16:30 37.85 28.93 -240.0 0.0 16:31 41.80 28.93 -240.0 0.0 16:32 36.23 28.93 -240.0 0.0 16:45 40.98 25.80 -240.0 1499.6 16:46 29.45 25.80 -240.0 0.0 16:47 30.17 25.80 -240.0 0.0 17:00 35.23 25.58 -240.0 0.0 17:01 28.35 25.58 -240.0 0.0 17:02 35.28 25.58 -240.0 0.0 17:15 45.32 25.10 -240.0 1499.4 17:16 30.14 25.10 -240.0 0.0 17:17 27.57 25.10 -240.0 0.0 17:30 51.09 25.30 -240.0 1499.5 17:31 53.16 25.30 -240.0 1499.6 17:32 30.18 25.30 -240.0 0.0 17:45 47.93 25.21 -240.0 1499.5 17:46 48.63 25.21 -240.0 1499.5 17:47 49.12 25.21 -240.0 1499.5 18:00 38.75 34.29 -240.0 0.0 18:01 32.01 34.29 -240.0 0.0 18:02 28.89 34.29 -240.0 0.0 18:15 51.36 26.01 -240.0 1499.6 18:16 38.85 26.01 -240.0 0.0 18:17 40.74 26.01 -240.0 0.0 18:30 43.06 24.96 -240.0 1499.5 18:31 29.24 24.96 -240.0 0.0 18:32 29.61 24.96 -240.0 0.0 18:45 36.98 26.26 -240.0 0.0 18:46 34.87 26.26 -240.0 0.0 18:47 36.14 26.26 -240.0 0.0 19:00 50.09 26.57 -240.0 1499.7 19:01 42.04 26.57 -240.0 1518.0 19:02 28.58 26.57 -240.0 0.0 _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Andy Talbot Sent: 17 March 2009 19:48 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Who's playing on 503.7 OK, Who is it? We can see you There's activity in the 5 and 6 minutes slots. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com ------=_NextPart_001_0011_01C9A7C7.D3209C30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

OK Andy,=

&nb= sp;

Yes, they looked the same strength as your main beacon signal.<= /font>

&nb= sp;

Thanks for the previous mail containing the brief explanation of the SNR feature.

&nb= sp;

73<= /o:p>

&nb= sp;

Gary = 211; G4WGT.

&nb= sp;

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Andy Talbot
Sent: 18 March 2009 11:24
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: RE: Who's pl= aying on 503.7

 

I sometimes flick the test switch and send a carrier= - so you're probably seeing those.

 

Andy  G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com

2009/3/17 Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>

Andy,

 <= o:p>

>>>> Did the messages about the modified beacon timing software get though this reflector - don't appear to see them in the in box?

I received the original &= amp; the correction to the url.

 <= o:p>

OK, I used “decode&= #8221; as the first word that came out of my head.

 <= o:p>

I have looked at the blac= k trace on my beacon chart & it doesn’t seem to coincide with the peaks on= the blue & green trace, there is a black peak but slightly offset. On my grabber saves there is very high noise level for a couple of minutes some times the blue & green has a peak which shows on the text log as well.

 <= o:p>

But I have also seen very= short carriers which I thought at first were part of you normal beacon signal &= ; when looking carefully at the timestamp were at the following times –=20= 1735, 1750 & 1751. At these times there was no burst of noise.

 <= o:p>

Cheers,=

 <= o:p>

Gary - G4WGT.

 <= o:p>

 <= o:p>

 <= o:p>

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Andy Talbot
Sent: 17 March 2009 20:36

Subject: Re: LF: RE: Who's playing on 503.7 <= o:p>

=  

= continued ....

=  

= The black trace gives it away.  If there is extended  QRM that spans  t= he noise measurement period (which is the WHOLE minute before) and the 5s Tx period it will show up on both.   The different system of noise measurement explains why the (no QRMed) green and blue traces are not sitting on top of teh black trace.   Ideally, with no signal there= , they should.


Andy  G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com

= 2009/3/17 Andy Talbot <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>

= I filled in a couple at 1800, deliberately, by flicking the test switch on my beacon Tx.   But there are too many peaks on the green annd blue traces to not suspect someone else is firing up a Tx.=

=  

= Its not a case of false decodes - there's not such thing as a 'decode' with this monitoring S/W.   All it does is to measure the signal power over precisely  this time slot, using a synchronised FFT with a bin size of 0.2Hz, which after windowing gives about 0.4Hz noise bandwidth.  So any QRM would have to be quite strong to make a significant impact, and persist over 5 seconds.   Short spikes get  averaged out to not-a-lot.

=  

= Did the messages about the modified beacon timing software get though this reflector= - don't appear to see them in the in box?

=  

=  


Andy  G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com

= 2009/3/17 Gary - G4WGT <g4= wgt@tiscali.co.uk>

=  

Hi Andy, LF,

 <= o:p>

I have not detected anyth= ing here other than your Tx.

 <= o:p>

I was going to e-mail any= way because I have some false decodes on the 5 & 6 minute slots, see list below. These coincide with high bursts of noise which I experience here from time to time. Is there an issue with the decode software being “foxed&= #8221; by high noise level?

 <= o:p>

Gary – G4WGT.

 <= o:p>

15:45  40.35  25.76  -240.0  0.0

15:46  41.05  25.76  -240.0  1499.5

15:47  39.52  25.76  -240.0  0.0

16:00  41.70  25.75  -240.0  1499.5

16:01  41.62  25.75  -240.0  1510.6

16:02  31.49  25.75  -240.0  0.0

16:15  40.10  25.47  -240.0  0.0

16:16  30.16  25.47  -240.0  0.0

16:17  29.17  25.47  -240.0  0.0

16:30  37.85  28.93  -240.0  0.0

16:31  41.80  28.93  -240.0  0.0

16:32  36.23  28.93  -240.0  0.0

16:45  40.98  25.80  -240.0  1499.6

16:46  29.45  25.80  -240.0  0.0

16:47  30.17  25.80  -240.0  0.0

17:00  35.23  25.58  -240.0  0.0

17:01  28.35  25.58  -240.0  0.0

17:02  35.28  25.58  -240.0  0.0

17:15  45.32  25.10  -240.0  1499.4

17:16  30.14  25.10  -240.0  0.0

17:17  27.57  25.10  -240.0  0.0

17:30  51.09  25.30  -240.0  1499.5

17:31  53.16  25.30  -240.0  1499.6

17:32  30.18  25.30  -240.0  0.0

17:45  47.93  25.21  -240.0  1499.5

17:46  48.63  25.21  -240.0  1499.5

17:47  49.12  25.21  -240.0  1499.5

18:00  38.75  34.29  -240.0  0.0

18:01  32.01  34.29  -240.0  0.0

18:02  28.89  34.29  -240.0  0.0

18:15  51.36  26.01  -240.0  1499.6

18:16  38.85  26.01  -240.0  0.0

18:17  40.74  26.01  -240.0  0.0

18:30  43.06  2= 4.96  -240.0  1499.5

18:31  29.24  24.96  -240.0  0.0

18:32  29.61  24.96  -240.0  0.0

18:45  36.98  26.26  -240.0  0.0

18:46  34.87  26.26  -240.0  0.0

18:47  36.14  26.26  -240.0  0.0

19:00  50.09  26.57  -240.0  1499.7

19:01  42.04  26.57  -240.0  1518.0

19:02  28.58  26.57  -240.0  0.0

 <= o:p>

 <= o:p>

 <= o:p>

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Andy Talbot
Sent: 17 March 2009 19:48
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Who's playing on 503.7

=  

= OK, Who is it? <= o:p>

= We can see you

= There's activity in the 5 and 6 minutes slots.

=  

=  

=
Andy  G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com

=  

=  

 

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From what I hear it shouldn't be long before Canada gets 137 and possibly 500kHz amateur allocations so it wouldn't hurt to get a jump on things. Also more U.S. experimenters will be coming on line, possibly a couple in Alaska which might be good for you. NDBs are a good target as well. In fact my 500kHz transmitter was previously in service up in your neck of the woods, at the Nahanni Butte airport. 500kHz is similar to the MW BC band, most signals will be skywave after da= rk. --=20 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 11:57 PM, Ron Thompson wrote: > Hi Warrren, > > =A0 and thanks to both Daves, Grahm and Mike. =A0I've checked out the webs= ites > suggested and may go ahead with a basic receiving set up. =A0Non-direction= al > beacons on the MF band are still widely used here for enroute air navigati= on > and would give me an idea of what propagation on the 600 metre band may be > like. > > =A0 What is the mode of propagation on 600 metres, primarily ground wave?=20= =A0How > much influence does space weather have on the MF band, does the band black > out like the HF bands? > > =A0 =A0another question, would there be any advantage to going lower, to t= he > 137KHz band? > > =A0 =A0Thanks, > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Ron > > On Monday 16 March 2009 08:04, Warren Ziegler wrote: >> Ron, >> >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Not to throw a wet blanket over your ambitions, but it wi= ll be >> very challenging (to put it mildly) for you to hear 500kHz amateur >> activity. >> The nearest active stations are thousands of miles away and you are >> under the auroral oval which really does a good job absorbing MF/HF >> signals. >> Rudy in Oregon was the closest signal and that was over 2000kM away! >> >> You never know, you might pick up one of the big guns under ideal >> conditions but it's always good to have realistic expectations. >> - >> 73 Warren K2ORS >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 WD2XGJ >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 WD2XSH/23 >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 WE2XEB/2 >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 WE2XGR/1 >> >> On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 8:58 PM, Ron Thompson wrote: >> > Hi Graham, >> > >> > =A0 =A0my actual location is at postal code X1A 2H5 >> > >> > =A0 =A0I'm in the company crew house at the float base. =A0In the Googl= e map >> > for the postal code, at the highest available satellite magnification, >> > you should see floatplanes along the parking lot and then in a cove on >> > the upper side of the parking lot is a yellow Cessna floatplane. =A0The >> > house just to the left of the floatplane is where I live. =A0Unfortunat= ely, >> > as the house is in the floatbase parking lot, there isn't any antenna >> > space around it. =A0What I do have is two 15 metre towers spaced about=20= 48 >> > metres apart that I use for my HF antenna (it used to have a company >> > commercial HF antenna before). =A0Any LF/MF antenna must be compact and >> > mountable either to the house or one of the towers. =A0Power lines are >> > between the house and cove, which may be a noise source. >> > >> > =A0 =A0 =A0Ron > > -- > Ron Thompson, VE8RT > Yellowknife, NT, Canada > 62 28.060 N =A0114 20.648 W =A0Grid Square DP22tl > "Who are are these that fly as a cloud, and as doves to their window?" Is=20= 60:8 > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df05.mx.aol.com (rly-df05.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.18]) by air-df06.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDF061-55349cfc66219f; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 15:05:26 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df05.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF058-55349cfc66219f; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 15:05:07 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lo0J6-0004k3-5e for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 20:04:32 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lo0J5-0004ju-NW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 20:04:31 +0100 Received: from mbox2.netikka.net ([213.250.81.203]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lo0J3-0007m7-WF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 20:04:31 +0100 Received: from mbox2-vams.netikka.net (mbox2 [127.0.0.1]) by mbox2-scanned.netikka.net (Postfix) with SMTP id AF125408093 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 22:04:23 +0300 (EEST) Received: from imp1.netikka.net (imp1.netikka.net [213.250.85.154]) by mbox2.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9E55408093 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 22:04:23 +0300 (EEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by imp1.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A246E495BA3 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 22:04:23 +0300 (EEST) Received: from 558602b6.adsl.multi.fi (558602b6.adsl.multi.fi [85.134.2.182]) by imp.netikka.net (IMP) with HTTP for ; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 22:04:23 +0300 Message-ID: <1238353463.49cfc63798ce5@imp.netikka.net> Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 22:04:23 +0300 From: Paul-Henrik To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <006b01c9b080$7127b560$0900a8c0@AM> In-Reply-To: <006b01c9b080$7127b560$0900a8c0@AM> MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.6 X-Originating-IP: 85.134.2.182 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: SM6BHZ in J3E/USB with someone on 505kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Gus, LF SM6BHZ just heard 59 testing J3E/USB on 505.0kHz (about 19.00UTC) with unidentified but received station having a 53 signal here. Very good signals! Antenna low 7x7x7m delta loop, RX IC-718 73's Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ Vaasa / KP03SD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me03.mx.aol.com (rly-me03.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.36]) by air-me07.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINME074-9a649b3a06b332; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 06:39:52 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me03.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME032-9a649b3a06b332; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 06:39:40 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LgGPv-0002xc-Up for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 10:39:35 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LgGPv-0002xT-Jq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 10:39:35 +0000 Received: from psmtp09.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.23]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LgGPu-00045f-VG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 10:39:35 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp09.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KG600392O9T3X@psmtp09.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 11:39:29 +0100 (MET) Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2009 11:39:25 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 184khz Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_cXYKT3AwXGfpD8EE+ETaZQ)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_cXYKT3AwXGfpD8EE+ETaZQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Hi Joe,lf nil on the screen, henny cpm. --Boundary_(ID_cXYKT3AwXGfpD8EE+ETaZQ) Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
Hi Joe,lf
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--Boundary_(ID_cXYKT3AwXGfpD8EE+ETaZQ)-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg10.mx.aol.com (rly-mg10.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.116]) by air-mg08.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMG081-a3749bfcf871a2; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 12:28:00 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg10.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG101-a3749bfcf871a2; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 12:27:53 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ljc8q-0003tX-R7 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 16:27:48 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ljc8q-0003tO-Ez for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 16:27:48 +0000 Received: from mail-bw0-f171.google.com ([209.85.218.171]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ljc8n-00014L-SA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 16:27:48 +0000 Received: by bwz19 with SMTP id 19so161472bwz.4 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 09:27:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=isuxmR8uvpKwJNT2obv+MhEZrgywMm1eRKjygNUq758=; b=SVE8XN4w3iDpdqb/k+HHamrL45zP7MQUnm8qPTPhoYtnUgb9O8MXkuHHIhxPLPq/yG 9phUFP4VwbNCejaOWvXO6YYpEtIRivQ0CmIhX2dK3UTejAMNjPq3P4njcipW5xDDM1Xo fuWOe+jboGMCe0zqKaMpNzCYxVE3stTObiYP8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=MwEh3j1Q5l7JtdyAHbI9JXFeXRJRQ3kpy7uOMvebxluI6BfQZXzxgdgI7nKTvmVrhp syOhOpfjEDtzYA2nHOrSddZ3wtMFiHDhr3bTW6igA44RwLqN3LnGGyMJUrrB1d0zH6jO EdmRKCLjoMSqZZpevdUHkRy0F94lvV8CTkpKM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.120.3 with SMTP id b3mr61374bkr.58.1237307259930; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 09:27:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <009001c9a588$7eb02c60$6401a8c0@asus> <00be01c9a66e$c8bfdbc0$0900a8c0@AM> <004a01c9a677$2a8b48a0$6401a8c0@asus> <005101c9a679$df148f50$6401a8c0@asus> <916F3329CAA846A19B450540FCC7E0AB@AGB> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 16:27:39 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c59978b4c9970465530b92 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m260.1 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --001636c59978b4c9970465530b92 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit That should have read http://www.g4jnt.com/PCBCN.zip Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/3/17 Andy Talbot > Try http://www.g4jnt.com/beacons.htm and go to PCBCN at the bottom > or directly > --001636c59978b4c9970465530b92 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
That should have read http://www.g4jnt.com/PCBCN.zip

Andy =A0G4JNT
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2009/3/17 Andy Talbot <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>
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--001636c59978b4c9970465530b92-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf10.mx.aol.com (rly-mf10.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.180]) by air-mf05.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMF051-98349c0351730c; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 19:41:27 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf10.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF101-98349c0351730c; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 19:41:13 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ljiti-0000Si-FS for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 23:40:38 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ljiti-0000SZ-0Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 23:40:38 +0000 Received: from mout0.freenet.de ([195.4.92.90]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ljitf-0005xC-Q3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 23:40:37 +0000 Received: from [195.4.92.21] (helo=11.mx.freenet.de) by mout0.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID beckmann.erlangen@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #79) id 1Ljitc-00051Z-Jc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 00:40:32 +0100 Received: from w1c54.w.pppool.de ([89.58.28.84]:1690 helo=2a2d7ed321c6425) by 11.mx.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID beckmann.erlangen@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #76) id 1Ljitc-0002QZ-4j for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 00:40:32 +0100 From: "Beckmann, Gerhard" To: References: <005501c9a73b$dd0b8ac0$6401a8c0@asus> <007901c9a74b$9e595450$6401a8c0@asus> <66041B03F81A45649EE247A427F62B69@2a2d7ed321c6425> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 00:40:25 +0100 Message-ID: <59F3C058263D42149AB3FA6911A3576C@2a2d7ed321c6425> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: AcmnQGpNLR16XYh4TuCtDgP6Dpa1XwAB4GUQAAGZ+eAAAnaQYA== In-Reply-To: <66041B03F81A45649EE247A427F62B69@2a2d7ed321c6425> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: LF: Addition: GI4DPE in CW on 502.7 kHz at 22:27 UTC Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0076_01C9A762.24C0F9B0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=5.0 tests=HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN, HTML_MESSAGE,UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0076_01C9A762.24C0F9B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello LF, MF Good readability of normal CW-signals from GI4DPE in JN59LN on 502.7 kHz at 22:27 UTC (about 549 !!) GI4DPE is in QSO with G3GNR. (No copy of G3GNR in JN59LN, sri ) vy 73 de Gerhard / DK6NI (JN59LN) ========================= ------=_NextPart_000_0076_01C9A762.24C0F9B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

 

Hello LF, MF

 

Good readabilit= y of normal CW-signals from GI4DPE in JN59LN  = on 502.7 kHz at 22:27 UTC (about 549 !!)

GI4DPE is in QS= O with G3GNR.

(No copy of G3G= NR in JN59LN, sri )

 

vy 73 de Gerhard  /=    DK6NI   (JN59LN)

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------=_NextPart_000_0076_01C9A762.24C0F9B0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf10.mx.aol.com (rly-mf10.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.180]) by air-mf01.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMF013-98349c7eec0302; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 16:19:34 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf10.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF101-98349c7eec0302; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 16:19:15 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Llqc0-0001r8-0x for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:19:08 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Llqbz-0001qz-MB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:19:07 +0000 Received: from imo-m12.mx.aol.com ([64.12.143.100] helo=imo-m12.mail.aol.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Llqbs-0004kk-FI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:19:07 +0000 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-m12.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id l.cc1.50b0aa79 (34966) for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 16:14:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Silver (g229167006.adsl.alicedsl.de [92.229.167.6]) by cia-da07.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILCIADA073-889649c7edab20; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 16:14:37 -0400 Message-ID: <864ED1778706409D9A640FF89C5F22C7@Silver> From: "Markus Vester" To: Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:14:35 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: DJ8WX, braving the storm Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0010_01C9ABF3.FC56A830" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.1 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_40_50, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C9ABF3.FC56A830 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0011_01C9ABF3.FC56A830" ------=_NextPart_001_0011_01C9ABF3.FC56A830 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Good luck Uwe... de Markus, DF6NM ------=_NextPart_001_0011_01C9ABF3.FC56A830 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: References: <0566EF6DE20B4249A3E74859BF9BA2C6@AGB> <9C03FBF153AB478A9B0DBC5580CF20D2@AGB> <28FA0F184B25444F8BA2F1EC5FC42C04@AGB> In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 22:45:53 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8064.206 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8064.206 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 503.7 Multi-function beacon ... Its working ! Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_011C_01C99F76.78DF57B0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_011C_01C99F76.78DF57B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable So far so good .. quite a step up in signal round 2100 hrs =20 no frequency decode before then , 15 db over noise at 2130 but a trend showing=20 about 1 hour slow qsb=20 any other reports ? G ..=20 ------=_NextPart_000_011C_01C99F76.78DF57B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
So far so good .. quite a step up in signal= round=20 2100 hrs 
no frequency decode before then , 15 db ove= r noise=20 at 2130
 
but a trend showing
about  1 hour slow qsb
 
any other reports ?
 
G ..
 
------=_NextPart_000_011C_01C99F76.78DF57B0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md03.mx.aol.com (rly-md03.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.141]) by air-md02.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMD022-8f549beb8dc15d; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 16:39:37 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md03.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD035-8f549beb8dc15d; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 16:38:54 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LjJZy-00067Y-NC for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 20:38:34 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LjJZy-00067P-1T for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 20:38:34 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-2-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.53]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LjJZv-0001vM-8S for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 20:38:33 +0000 X-Trace: 167850870/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.59.96/None/g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.59.96 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Microsoft Office Outlook 11Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AjMFAA5VvklYajtg/2dsb2JhbACDJESGNoNcxzcHgi6BSgY X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,374,1233532800"; d="scan'208";a="167850870" Received: from 88-106-59-96.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.59.96]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 16 Mar 2009 20:38:30 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <009001c9a588$7eb02c60$6401a8c0@asus> <00e001c9a5a7$f07216a0$6401a8c0@asus> <826BA6086575402A8C87062492069F5A@AGB> <004501c9a623$a4bf81d0$6401a8c0@asus> <2ED02F4327204E3C903828F9E18AA72B@AGB> <001e01c9a665$ebeac870$6401a8c0@asus> <00be01c9a66e$c8bfdbc0$0900a8c0@AM> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 20:38:29 -0000 Message-ID: <004a01c9a677$2a8b48a0$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <00be01c9a66e$c8bfdbc0$0900a8c0@AM> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AcmmcDJ3Eyo2Ce0jRBSn2vvecaueYAABsuqA X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Alan, When you wrote :- my only comment is that you may have too much gain in the system. Are you meaning sound card or receiver gain? Gary. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Alan Melia Sent: 16 March 2009 19:38 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software Hi Gary my only comment is that you may have too much gain in the system. It is sometimes better to have the noise further down nearer the axis. I am afraid there is a major problem with this kind of beacon, when the fading period is shorter than the sampling interval, so you dont really know what the path is doing. The only reliable points are the peaks, the troughs dont really mean anything without some very sophisticated analysis and probably two spaced receivers. However it does give a snapshot of the band without taking up too much bandwidth (this was what was required for 5MHz too). Despite all the data collected very little analysis has actually be done on the 5MHz data collected by this program. The one succesfull bit of work was that published in Radcom by Marcis Walden G0IJZ. I used it for some time whilst Andy was testing the Poldhu beacon on 160m and also during the 1st two months that ran. I was certainly surprised by the daytime path on 160m from here. I have seen the data collected in Canada via Joe Craig VO1NA and it is difficult to see how to use it. Still if you dont collect the data you will never know!! Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 6:35 PM Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software > Hi Graham, LF, > > > > The original HTML Code for the 2 minute refresh is still inserted into the > page format, so upload is 30 minute intervals with Syncback & 2 minute > refresh. I have left the refresh in case I revert back to the original > grabber page. I will look at changing it if I continue to use the beacon > chart upload. > > > > I would like to have feedback from the LF group regarding the page, if you > check it out periodically, is it useful to you, what are you looking for. > > > > You can view the chart on my web site at :- > > > > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html > > > > 73 > > > > Gary - G4WGT. > > > > > > _____ > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham > Sent: 16 March 2009 17:20 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > Hi Gary, > > > > The page seemed to refresh quite often ... are there two settings ? > > > > G .. > > > > From: Gary - G4WGT > > Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:40 AM > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > Hi Graham, LF, > > > > You wrote :- > > >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute > intervals. <<< that could be backed off to 15 mins as the beacon only > sends every 15 ?? > > > > I mentioned in my previous mail to ignore the text on the page as it was > originally for grabber 1 for when I upgrade the web site (to a new design & > better navigation etc), also mentioned is that upload is every 30 minutes. > > > > If the uploaded chart proves useful or interesting to operators & viewers > then I will change the text & make it a permanent feature for the > foreseeable future. > > > > BTW :- > > > > For those of you who are not familiar with the chart - > > > > The RED trace is Andy's (G4JNT) beacon signal & the BLACK trace is the noise > level at my QTH. > > > > The Blue & GREEN are not in use & should be ignored on this chart as they > are for the other beacons used when monitoring on the 5MHz allocation. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Gary - G4WGT > > > > > > _____ > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham > Sent: 15 March 2009 22:17 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > Gary.. > > > > That looks good ... 0500 looks best time for a qso .. see you then Smile > emoticon > > > > >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute > intervals. <<< that could be backed off to 15 mins as the beacon only > sends every 15 ?? > > > > the 15 db over the noise in day time is the same at this qth .. looks like > the big dips round 1900 where just when we where testing .. typical hihi > > > > tnx- G .. > > > > From: Gary - G4WGT > > Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 7:55 PM > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > Subject: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > LF, > > > > I have now got the software, Syncback running correctly (I think). > > > > The purpose of this is to upload the chart from Andy's beacon as received > here to my web site periodically, ie. every 30 minutes. > > > > I now have a receiver running 24/7 monitoring Andy,s beacon on 503.7KHz. > > > > You can view the chart on my web site at :- > > > > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html > > > > For the moment ignore the text on the page as it is originally designed to > use with the 500KHz grabber when I renew my web site design. If it is a > useful upload I will make it a permanent feature but may have to extend the > frequency coverage of grabber 1 so not to overload the PC with operations > which will cause the PC to struggle. > > > > Let me have your comments please. > > > > 73 > > > > Gary - G4WGT. > > > > _____ > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT > Sent: 15 March 2009 16:10 > To: LF -RSGB LF Group > Subject: LF: Syncback software > > > > Hi LF, > > > > If anyone is using Syncback software & can help, please. > > > > I am tying to upload a file to my website who's filename does not change, > only the file size changes. I tried to do it with Argo-upload but failed so > I downloaded Syncback & still failing. > > > > Syncback gives me the following message :- > > > > ********************************** > > Can connect, but unable to change to destination directory: > > /chart01.bmp:not a directory > > ********************************** > > The Syncback help does not give me the answer. > > > > Any help will be appreciated > > > > Or > > > > Will Argo-Upload do it? > > > > Or > > > > Is there something else to do it? > > > > Thanks in anticipation, > > > > 73, > > > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. > > > > _____ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.13/2001 - Release Date: 03/14/09 > 06:54:00 > > _____ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.15/2003 - Release Date: 03/15/09 > 14:07:00 > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc01.mx.aol.com (rly-dc01.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.30]) by air-dc05.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDC052-b0249c3627b3cd; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 05:32:01 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc01.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC016-b0249c3627b3cd; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 05:31:41 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lkb4P-0000sl-Oo for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 09:31:17 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lkb4P-0000sc-E2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 09:31:17 +0000 Received: from mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.47]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lkb4O-0008Ux-MW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 09:31:17 +0000 Received: from aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20090320093106.QDIA2989.mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com>; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 09:31:06 +0000 Received: from [192.168.2.33] (really [82.22.242.113]) by aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vG.2.02.00.01 201-2161-120-102-20060912) with ESMTP id <20090320093106.MSOL21638.aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@[192.168.2.33]>; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 09:31:06 +0000 From: "Mike Dennison" To: Harry Woodhouse , rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 09:31:02 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <49C36256.29572.48E172A@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> In-reply-to: <5931f8db0903200019t15b9a653ua1f46367492d0ec6@mail.gmail.com> References: <5931f8db0903200019t15b9a653ua1f46367492d0ec6@mail.gmail.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-description: Mail message body X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=9YlaCzn6_68A:10 a=sbSsfc6SFoy9G8vKjKAA:9 a=uyy8Ip4idx_kntXtqWdjiMnLiawA:4 a=gi0PWCVxevcA:10 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 137 KHz reports please Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 I shall be monitoring for you. Mike, G3XDV ========== > If I manage to get my temporary mast up in the wind, I hope to > transmit CQ tomorrow morning Saturday 21st March with QRSS3 on 137.68 > KHz. Running 825 watts input to Decca Tx which was scrapped from the > Isles of Scilly, to a 230 feet long Marconi T, 30 feet up. Earth is a > disused iron water main about 5 miles long. Rx is lazy loop. QTH is at > Porthpean, IO 70 OH, on the cliffs looking out to sea to the east. > Reports most welcome, but I am 79 and struggling! Please be patient! > Harry G3MFW > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg05.mx.aol.com (rly-dg05.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.89]) by air-dg05.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDG051-5c649d1cdc4149; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 04:01:22 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg05.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG053-5c649d1cdc4149; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 04:01:11 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LoYtr-0000uv-Lj for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 09:00:47 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LoYtr-0000um-7M for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 09:00:47 +0100 Received: from psmtp04.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.13]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LoYtp-0000k0-DU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 09:00:47 +0100 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp04.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KHD000OD28TTO@psmtp04.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 10:00:29 +0200 (MEST) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 10:00:31 +0200 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 137khz-2 31-03.jpg Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_si2B7oRYdaoDixtV96J0kA)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_si2B7oRYdaoDixtV96J0kA) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_dgzpFxACnJ3CqXg32qB1HA)" --Boundary_(ID_dgzpFxACnJ3CqXg32qB1HA) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT capture 137khz nr 2 henny cpm best 73s to all. 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capture 137khz nr 2
henny cpm
best 73s to all.
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Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0052_01C9A679.DF148F50" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNSAFE,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0052_01C9A679.DF148F50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Andy, OK, I will insert an attenuator at the antenna socket (that's an easy move) & watch how it performs. It is switched at 10dB steps so I will start at 10db of course. Cheers, Gary. _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Andy Talbot Sent: 16 March 2009 20:45 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software Doesn't matter which - just total system gain. That S/W works best if the noise threshold rides at about 10dB above the baseline, then it allows for up to 70 - 80dB of signal peaks. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/3/16 Gary - G4WGT Alan, When you wrote :- my only comment is that you may have too much gain in the system. Are you meaning sound card or receiver gain? Gary. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Alan Melia Sent: 16 March 2009 19:38 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software Hi Gary my only comment is that you may have too much gain in the system. It is sometimes better to have the noise further down nearer the axis. I am afraid there is a major problem with this kind of beacon, when the fading period is shorter than the sampling interval, so you dont really know what the path is doing. The only reliable points are the peaks, the troughs dont really mean anything without some very sophisticated analysis and probably two spaced receivers. However it does give a snapshot of the band without taking up too much bandwidth (this was what was required for 5MHz too). Despite all the data collected very little analysis has actually be done on the 5MHz data collected by this program. The one succesfull bit of work was that published in Radcom by Marcis Walden G0IJZ. I used it for some time whilst Andy was testing the Poldhu beacon on 160m and also during the 1st two months that ran. I was certainly surprised by the daytime path on 160m from here. I have seen the data collected in Canada via Joe Craig VO1NA and it is difficult to see how to use it. Still if you dont collect the data you will never know!! Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 6:35 PM Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software > Hi Graham, LF, > > > > The original HTML Code for the 2 minute refresh is still inserted into the > page format, so upload is 30 minute intervals with Syncback & 2 minute > refresh. I have left the refresh in case I revert back to the original > grabber page. I will look at changing it if I continue to use the beacon > chart upload. > > > > I would like to have feedback from the LF group regarding the page, if you > check it out periodically, is it useful to you, what are you looking for. > > > > You can view the chart on my web site at :- > > > > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html > > > > 73 > > > > Gary - G4WGT. > > > > > > _____ > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham > Sent: 16 March 2009 17:20 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > Hi Gary, > > > > The page seemed to refresh quite often ... are there two settings ? > > > > G .. > > > > From: Gary - G4WGT > > Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:40 AM > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > Hi Graham, LF, > > > > You wrote :- > > >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute > intervals. <<< that could be backed off to 15 mins as the beacon only > sends every 15 ?? > > > > I mentioned in my previous mail to ignore the text on the page as it was > originally for grabber 1 for when I upgrade the web site (to a new design & > better navigation etc), also mentioned is that upload is every 30 minutes. > > > > If the uploaded chart proves useful or interesting to operators & viewers > then I will change the text & make it a permanent feature for the > foreseeable future. > > > > BTW :- > > > > For those of you who are not familiar with the chart - > > > > The RED trace is Andy's (G4JNT) beacon signal & the BLACK trace is the noise > level at my QTH. > > > > The Blue & GREEN are not in use & should be ignored on this chart as they > are for the other beacons used when monitoring on the 5MHz allocation. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Gary - G4WGT > > > > > > _____ > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham > Sent: 15 March 2009 22:17 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > Gary.. > > > > That looks good ... 0500 looks best time for a qso .. see you then Smile > emoticon > > > > >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute > intervals. <<< that could be backed off to 15 mins as the beacon only > sends every 15 ?? > > > > the 15 db over the noise in day time is the same at this qth .. looks like > the big dips round 1900 where just when we where testing .. typical hihi > > > > tnx- G .. > > > > From: Gary - G4WGT > > Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 7:55 PM > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > Subject: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > LF, > > > > I have now got the software, Syncback running correctly (I think). > > > > The purpose of this is to upload the chart from Andy's beacon as received > here to my web site periodically, ie. every 30 minutes. > > > > I now have a receiver running 24/7 monitoring Andy,s beacon on 503.7KHz. > > > > You can view the chart on my web site at :- > > > > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html > > > > For the moment ignore the text on the page as it is originally designed to > use with the 500KHz grabber when I renew my web site design. If it is a > useful upload I will make it a permanent feature but may have to extend the > frequency coverage of grabber 1 so not to overload the PC with operations > which will cause the PC to struggle. > > > > Let me have your comments please. > > > > 73 > > > > Gary - G4WGT. > > > > _____ > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT > Sent: 15 March 2009 16:10 > To: LF -RSGB LF Group > Subject: LF: Syncback software > > > > Hi LF, > > > > If anyone is using Syncback software & can help, please. > > > > I am tying to upload a file to my website who's filename does not change, > only the file size changes. I tried to do it with Argo-upload but failed so > I downloaded Syncback & still failing. > > > > Syncback gives me the following message :- > > > > ********************************** > > Can connect, but unable to change to destination directory: > > /chart01.bmp:not a directory > > ********************************** > > The Syncback help does not give me the answer. > > > > Any help will be appreciated > > > > Or > > > > Will Argo-Upload do it? > > > > Or > > > > Is there something else to do it? > > > > Thanks in anticipation, > > > > 73, > > > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. > > > > _____ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.13/2001 - Release Date: 03/14/09 > 06:54:00 > > _____ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.15/2003 - Release Date: 03/15/09 > 14:07:00 > > ------=_NextPart_000_0052_01C9A679.DF148F50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Andy,

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OK, I will insert an attenuator at the antenna socket (that’s an easy move) & watch how it performs. It is switched at 10dB steps so I will start at 10db of course.

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Cheers,<= o:p>

&nb= sp;

Gary.

&nb= sp;

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Andy Talbot
Sent: 16 March 2009 20:45
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software

 

Doesn't matter which - just total system gain.  That= S/W works best if the noise threshold rides at about 10dB above the baseline,  th= en it allows for up to 70 - 80dB of signal peaks.


Andy  G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com

2009/3/16 Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>

Alan,

When you wrote :-

my only comment is that you may have too much gain in the system.

Are you meaning sound card or receiver gain?

Gary.



-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_gr= oup@blacksheep.org

[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Alan Melia
Sent: 16 March 2009 19:38

To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software

Hi Gary=20= my only comment is that you may have too much gain in the system. It
is sometimes better to have the noise further down nearer the axis.

I am afraid there is a major problem with this kind of beacon, when the
fading period is shorter than the sampling interval, so you dont really know=
what the path is doing. The only reliable points are the peaks, the troughs<= br> dont really mean anything without some very sophisticated analysis and
probably two spaced receivers. However it does give a snapshot of the band without taking up too much bandwidth (this was what was required for 5MHz too). Despite all the data collected very little analysis has actually be done on the 5MHz data collected by this program. The one succesfull bit of work was that published in Radcom by Marcis Walden G0IJZ. I used it for some=
time whilst Andy was testing the Poldhu beacon on 160m and also during the 1st two months that ran. I was certainly surprised by the daytime path on 160m from here. I have seen the data collected in Canada via=20= Joe Craig VO1NA
and it is difficult to see how to use it.

Still if you dont collect the data you will never know!!

Alan G3NYK




----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary - G4WGT" <g4= wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacks= heep.org>
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 6:35 PM
Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software


> Hi Graham, LF,
>
>
>
> The original HTML Code for the 2 minute refresh is still inserted into=20= the
> page format, so upload is 30 minute intervals with Syncback & 2 min= ute
> refresh. I have left the refresh in case I revert back to the original<= br> > grabber page. I will look at changing it if I continue to use the beaco= n
> chart upload.
>
>
>
> I would like to have feedback from the LF group regarding the page, if=20= you
> check it out periodically, is it useful to you, what are you looking fo= r.
>
>
>
> You can view the chart on my web site at :-
>
>
>
> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html
>
>
>
> 73
>
>
>
> Gary - G4WGT.
>
>
>
>
>
>   _____
>
> From: owner-rsgb_= lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsg= b_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham
> Sent: 16 March 2009 17:20
> To: rsgb_lf_group@black= sheep.org
> Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software
>
>
>
> Hi Gary,
>
>
>
> The page seemed to  refresh quite often ... are there two settings= ?
>
>
>
> G ..
>
>
>
> From: Gary - G4WGT <mailto:g4= wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
>
> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:40 AM
>
> To: rsgb_lf_group@black= sheep.org
>
> Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software
>
>
>
> Hi Graham, LF,
>
>
>
> You wrote :-
>
> >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute
> intervals. <<< that could be backed off to  15 mins as th= e beacon only
> sends every 15 ??
>
>
>
> I mentioned in my previous mail to ignore the text on the page as it wa= s
> originally for grabber 1 for when I upgrade the web site (to a new desi= gn
&
> better navigation etc), also mentioned is that upload is every 30 minut= es.
>
>
>
> If the uploaded chart proves useful or interesting to operators & viewers
> then I will change the text & make it a permanent feature for the > foreseeable future.
>
>
>
> BTW :-
>
>
>
> For those of you  who are not familiar with the chart -
>
>
>
> The RED trace is Andy's (G4JNT) beacon signal & the BLACK trace is=20= the
noise
> level at my QTH.
>
>
>
> The Blue & GREEN are not in use & should be ignored on this cha= rt as they
> are for the other beacons used when monitoring on the 5MHz allocation.<= br> >
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> Gary - G4WGT
>
>
>
>
>
>   _____
>
> From: owner-rsgb_= lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsg= b_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham
> Sent: 15 March 2009 22:17
> To: rsgb_lf_group@black= sheep.org
> Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software
>
>
>
> Gary..
>
>
>
> That looks good  ... 0500 looks best time for a qso .. see you the= n Smile
> emoticon
>
>
>
> >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute
> intervals. <<< that could be backed off to  15 mins as th= e beacon only
> sends every 15 ??
>
>
>
> the  15 db over the noise in day time is the  same at this qt= h ... looks
like
> the big dips round 1900  where just when we where testing ..  typical hihi
>
>
>
> tnx- G ..
>
>
>
> From: Gary - G4WGT <mailto:g4= wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
>
> Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 7:55 PM
>
> To: rsgb_lf_group@black= sheep.org
>
> Subject: LF: RE: Syncback software
>
>
>
> LF,
>
>
>
> I have now got the software, Syncback running correctly (I think).
>
>
>
> The purpose of this is to upload the chart from Andy's beacon as receiv= ed
> here to my web site periodically, ie. every 30 minutes.
>
>
>
> I now have a receiver running 24/7 monitoring Andy,s beacon on 503.7KHz= .
>
>
>
> You can view the chart on my web site at :-
>
>
>
> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html
>
>
>
> For the moment ignore the text on the page as it is originally designed= to
> use with the 500KHz grabber when I renew my web site design. If it is a=
> useful upload I will make it a permanent feature but may have to extend=
the
> frequency coverage of grabber 1 so not to overload the PC with operatio= ns
> which will cause the PC to struggle.
>
>
>
> Let me have your comments please.
>
>
>
> 73
>
>
>
> Gary - G4WGT.
>
>
>
>   _____
>
> From: owner-rsgb_= lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsg= b_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT
> Sent: 15 March 2009 16:10
> To: LF -RSGB LF Group
> Subject: LF: Syncback software
>
>
>
> Hi LF,
>
>
>
> If anyone is using Syncback software & can help, please.
>
>
>
> I am tying to upload a file to my website who's filename does not chang= e,
> only the file size changes. I tried to do it with Argo-upload but faile= d
so
> I downloaded Syncback & still failing.
>
>
>
> Syncback gives me the following message :-
>
>
>
> **********************************
>
> Can connect, but unable to change to destination directory:
>
> /chart01.bmp:not a directory
>
> **********************************
>
> The Syncback help does not give me the answer.
>
>
>
> Any help will be appreciated
>
>
>
> Or
>
>
>
> Will Argo-Upload do it?
>
>
>
> Or
>
>
>
> Is there something else to do it?
>
>
>
> Thanks in anticipation,
>
>
>
> 73,
>
>
>
> Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.
>
>
>
>   _____
>
>
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG - www.= avg.com
> Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.13/2001 - Release Date: 03/14= /09
> 06:54:00
>
>   _____
>
>
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG - www.= avg.com
> Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.15/2003 - Release Date: 03/15= /09
> 14:07:00
>
>


 

------=_NextPart_000_0052_01C9A679.DF148F50-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de12.mx.aol.com (rly-de12.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.148]) by air-de03.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDE033-51c49bbb0e331a; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 09:28:22 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de12.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE123-51c49bbb0e331a; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 09:28:05 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LiTto-0000gR-38 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 13:27:36 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LiTtn-0000gI-2R for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 13:27:35 +0000 Received: from [193.252.22.190] (helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LiTtj-0000sL-Vx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 13:27:35 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3628.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 713967000083 for ; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 14:27:24 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.110.71.35]) by mwinf3628.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 813447000081 for ; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 14:27:21 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20090314132721529.813447000081@mwinf3628.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <5467B2F044F54A7980C65F62409256D3@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 13:27:20 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8064.206 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8064.206 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: Multi-function beacon Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0049_01C9A4A8.9A593B90" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0049_01C9A4A8.9A593B90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dave, >>> Sample of 5290kc. over last night.<<< Is this from 5290 or 503.7 ....... ?? Graham ..=20 From: dave.riley3=20 Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 12:08 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Cc: 600MRG=20 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Multi-function beacon Andy, beacons, Looks like the beacon program is up and running correctly as 5 mhz shows rel= ative sigs and frequency counts. Last night conditions here were very poor for T/A on 600m, even with this br= oad high pressure area that helped keep the noise down. Even DI2AM was very=20= weak and SM6BHZ did not decode. So I will run it again on you tonight, but I did see remnanats of what looks= like a letter K during the beacon transmission times from you ( in ARGO QRS= S3 )... Sample of 5290kc. over last night. 2009 03 14 03 00 47.51 39.97 36.06 23.91 0.00 1495.70 1494.14 0.00 2009 03 14 03 15 34.12 37.03 31.32 23.36 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 14 03 30 33.87 30.14 35.05 29.91 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 14 03 45 30.91 26.89 26.38 23.12 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 14 04 00 32.25 44.39 25.68 24.24 0.00 0.00 1494.14 0.00 2009 03 14 04 15 40.13 39.54 35.79 24.24 0.00 1495.51 1494.14 0.00 2009 03 14 04 30 44.71 42.47 29.35 30.72 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 14 04 45 33.16 37.11 35.32 23.03 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 14 05 00 48.07 46.44 34.46 25.30 0.00 1495.90 1494.14 0.00 2009 03 14 05 15 43.12 47.39 30.40 23.83 0.00 1495.70 1494.14 0.00 2009 03 14 05 30 48.13 31.83 37.48 26.50 0.00 1495.70 0.00 0.00 2009 03 14 05 45 47.11 42.90 37.04 22.88 0.00 1495.90 1494.34 0.00 2009 03 14 06 00 28.69 30.99 30.46 23.66 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 14 06 15 41.04 31.09 29.58 23.29 0.00 1495.90 0.00 0.00 The 'red' station usually seems the strongest on the graph... TNX Dave @ /17 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Andy Talbot=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org ; uk_beacons@yahoogroups.com=20 Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 5:57 AM Subject: LF: Re: Multi-function beacon Just a reminder to all - this beacon is still going, and will probably con= tinue to do so until further notice. A few listeners have downloaded the s= oftware, and thanks to all (you know who your are :-) for the plots / listin= gs. I am not in a position to compile them, so don't expect revelations, b= ut Gerhard / DK6NI has been monitoring pretty well continuously, and has p= lotted some deep fades / enhancements measured over hours with depths in the= regions of 30dB. Are there any stations in the US in a position to monitor ? =20 Please note that if using the recommended 5meg beacon monitoring software=20= you'll either have to set the delta time to -240 (or -180 or -120) seconds o= r adjust the PC clock by two, three or four minutes to cope with the four mi= nute offset I'm running it on. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com =20 2009/3/6 Andy Talbot I've now started transmitting a timed beacon signal on 503.7kHz that is= identical in format to that of GB3SSS operated over the winter months of th= e last two years from Poldhu on 1.9 and 3.5MHz, and has a similar signal s= tructure to the 5MHz beacons, GB3RAL, WES and ORK. These all have an initia= l CW ident and stepped power levels for aural reception, and a precisely def= ined period of full-power plain carrier for S/N measurements. =20 See http://www.rsgb-spectrumforum.org.uk/5mhz%20beacons.htm for the c= omplete 5MHz signal structure. For this MF transmission, as on GB3SSS, the= pulsed sounder sequence of the 5MHz beacons is replaced with a PSK31 messag= e which lasts from 30s to approx 48 seconds after the start Auto Monitoring software writen by G3PLX is available for monitoring the= se beacons, it measures signal to noise during the carrier period and saves=20= to file as well as plotting the last 40 hours worth of measurements. The software can be downloaded from http://www.rsgb.org/spectrumforum/h= f/beaconauto.php . PSK31 data can be copied with Digipan, Fldigi, PSK31SBW= or a host of other packages. TIMING=20 The 503.7kHz transmission takes place every 15 minutes at 4 minutes past= the quarter hour. =20 ie each transmission starts at xx:04, xx:19, xx:34 and xx:49 This tim= e slot has been selected so that the transmission do not interfere with my c= ontinuous ongoing reception of the 5Mhz beacons - the active antenna used fo= r these is overloaded by the 500kHz signal and I have already lost data when= the WSPR beacon transmission coincided with one of the monitoring windows. NOTE If using the G3PLX software, this only monitors for the three 5MH= z beacons at 00, 01 and 02 minutes. SO IT WILL BE NECESSARY TO FRIG THE SOFTWARE to monitor this transmissi= on at the 04 minute point. The necessary alteration can be done by firstly= setting your PC clock accurately to the correct time, then setting the Trac= k Time box to -240 (minus 240 seconds). This will make the software look fo= r this transmission during the time window it thinks it would be receiving G= B3RAL, and log the MF transmission during the first minute, on the red trace= , as if it were GB3RAL=20 The beacon uses the identical hardware to the WSPR transmissions of the=20= last few weeks, with the the only change being a reprogramming of the contro= ller PIC. In fact the very same hardware was previously loaned to the Pold= hu club for their beacons, with the only difference being a change to the fi= nal Low Pass filter on the output of the broadband PA. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.13/2001 - Release Date: 03/13/09 0= 5:59:00 ------=_NextPart_000_0049_01C9A4A8.9A593B90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dave, >>> Sample of 5290kc. over last=20 night.<<<
 
Is this  from 5290  or  503.7 ...= .....=20 ??
 
Graham ..
 
 

Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 12:08 PM
Cc: 600MRG
Subject: LF: Re: Re: Multi-function beacon

Andy, beacons,
 
Looks like the beacon program is up and running=20 correctly as 5 mhz shows relative sigs and frequency=20 counts.
 
Last night conditions here were very poor for T/= A on=20 600m, even with this broad high pressure area that helped keep the noise dow= n.=20 Even DI2AM was very weak and SM6BHZ did not decode.
 
So I will run it again on you tonight, but I did= see=20 remnanats of what looks like a letter K during the beacon transmission times= =20 from you ( in ARGO QRSS3 )...
 
 
Sample of 5290kc. over last=20 night.
 
2009 03 14 03 00 47.51 39.97 36.06 23.91 0.00 14= 95.70=20 1494.14 0.00
2009 03 14 03 15 34.12 37.03 31.32 23.36 0.00 0.00 0.00=20 0.00
2009 03 14 03 30 33.87 30.14 35.05 29.91 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
2009= 03=20 14 03 45 30.91 26.89 26.38 23.12 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
2009 03 14 04 00 32.= 25=20 44.39 25.68 24.24 0.00 0.00 1494.14 0.00
2009 03 14 04 15 40.13 39.54 35.= 79=20 24.24 0.00 1495.51 1494.14 0.00
2009 03 14 04 30 44.71 42.47 29.35 30.72=20= 0.00=20 0.00 0.00 0.00
2009 03 14 04 45 33.16 37.11 35.32 23.03 0.00 0.00 0.00=20 0.00
2009 03 14 05 00 48.07 46.44 34.46 25.30 0.00 1495.90 1494.14=20 0.00
2009 03 14 05 15 43.12 47.39 30.40 23.83 0.00 1495.70 1494.14=20 0.00
2009 03 14 05 30 48.13 31.83 37.48 26.50 0.00 1495.70 0.00 0.00
2= 009=20 03 14 05 45 47.11 42.90 37.04 22.88 0.00 1495.90 1494.34 0.00
2009 03 14=20= 06=20 00 28.69 30.99 30.46 23.66 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
2009 03 14 06 15 41.04 31.= 09=20 29.58 23.29 0.00 1495.90 0.00 0.00
 
The 'red' station usually seems the strongest on= the=20 graph...
 
TNX
 
Dave @ /17
 
----- Original Message -----
Andy Talbot
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 5:57=20 AM
Subject: LF: Re: Multi-function=20 beacon

Just a reminder to all - this beacon is still going, and will probabl= y=20 continue to do so until further notice.   A few listeners have=20 downloaded the software, and thanks to all (you know who your are :-) for=20= the=20 plots / listings.   I am not in a position to compile them, so d= on't=20 expect revelations, but Gerhard  /  DK6NI has been monitoring pr= etty=20 well continuously, and has plotted some deep fades / enhancement= s=20 measured over hours with depths in the regions of 30dB.
 
Are there any stations in the US in a position to monitor=20 ?  
 
Please note that if using the recommended 5meg beacon monitoring soft= ware=20 you'll either have to set the delta time to -240 (or -180 or -120) seconds= or=20 adjust the PC clock by two, three or four minutes to cope with the four mi= nute=20 offset I'm running it on.
 
Andy  G4JNT
2009/3/6 Andy Talbot <andy.g4jnt@goog= lemail.com>
I've now started transmitting a timed  beacon signal on=20 503.7kHz that is identical in format to that of GB3SSS operated ove= r=20 the winter months of the last two years  from Poldhu on 1.9 an= d=20 3.5MHz,  and has a similar signal structure to the 5MHz beacon= s,=20 GB3RAL, WES and ORK.  These all have an initial CW ident=20 and stepped power levels for aural reception, and a precisely=20 defined period of full-power plain carrier for S/N=20 measurements.  
See   http://www.rsgb-spectrumforum.o= rg.uk/5mhz%20beacons.htm =20 for the complete 5MHz  signal structure.  For this MF=20 transmission, as on GB3SSS, the pulsed sounder sequence of the 5MHz beac= ons=20 is replaced with a PSK31 message which lasts from 30s to approx 48=20 seconds after the start
 
Auto Monitoring software writen by G3PLX is available for monitorin= g=20 these beacons, it measures signal to noise during the carrier period and= =20 saves to file as well as plotting the last 40 hours worth of=20 measurements.
The software can be downloaded from  http://ww= w.rsgb.org/spectrumforum/hf/beaconauto.php .  =20 PSK31 data can be copied with Digipan, Fldigi, PSK31SBW or a host of oth= er=20 packages.
 
TIMING
The 503.7kHz transmission takes place every 15 minutes at 4 minutes= =20 past the quarter hour. 
ie each transmission starts at xx:04, xx:19, xx:34 and= =20 xx:49    This time slot has been selected s= o=20 that the transmission do not interfere with my continuous ongoing recept= ion=20 of the 5Mhz beacons - the active antenna used for these is overloaded by= the=20 500kHz signal and I have already lost data when the WSPR beacon transmis= sion=20 coincided with one of the monitoring windows.
 
NOTE   If using the G3PLX software, this=20 only monitors for the three 5MHz beacons at  00, 01 and 02=20 minutes.
SO IT WILL BE NECESSARY TO FRIG THE SOFTWARE=20  to monitor this transmission at the 04 minute=20 point.   The necessary alteration can be done by firstly=20 setting your PC clock accurately to the correct time, then setting=20= the=20 Track Time box to -240 (minus 240 seconds).  This will make the=20 software look for this transmission during the time window it think= s it=20 would be receiving GB3RAL, and log the MF transmission during the f= irst=20 minute, on the red trace, as if it were GB3RAL 
 
The beacon uses the identical hardware to the WSPR transmissio= ns=20 of the last few weeks, with the the only change being=20 a reprogramming of the controller PIC.   In fact the very= =20 same hardware was previously loaned to the Poldhu club for their beacons= ,=20 with the only difference being a change to the final Low Pass filter on=20= the=20 output of the broadband PA.
 


No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG -=20 www.avg.com
Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.13/2001 - Release=20 Date: 03/13/09 05:59:00
------=_NextPart_000_0049_01C9A4A8.9A593B90-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db03.mx.aol.com (rly-db03.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.78]) by air-db01.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDB014-ab949b40dff305; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 14:27:30 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db03.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB037-ab949b40dff305; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 14:27:13 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LgNiJ-0000Vb-Rj for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 18:27:03 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LgNiJ-0000VR-1B for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 18:27:03 +0000 Received: from mail-fx0-f174.google.com ([209.85.220.174]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LgNiH-0007Of-Cy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 18:27:03 +0000 Received: by fxm22 with SMTP id 22so1160074fxm.4 for ; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 11:26:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=6YzguZ00jdy15G08/icmebq1N1EYBmPkRS4TV9/ffko=; b=iGl1FFsIw9dJoE3pSNYAluq/NuRb09BIjhlLMxbB7ON1nOk7/SryPLMPrqOlAlU4uX my4huna7gVabd2l2xHNs23dGUe00y0NC8rT75Me0BJDbAk080bruBFcgWdRa/ycn7SmD gt7eULgTpQRvMeleWL8B4RbXq++XDCzFhv2UY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Cs7Pp4myww68+u4LSbwN+NPKb980EbKblXxKw4xgZDpHxiekDsgO/irI6d9cqa9Xag JI2pzNP2gK8qZ1AcTqR2zpmV+RPNtxcr3hQyxNpJSN9yq4g+SI1uRsJdmW2fyP8MAHF/ XjDioqshYVXlSI+LITFgcUaTIdvteaU1qL0Yg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.110.11 with SMTP id l11mr3830557fap.50.1236536814286; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 11:26:54 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <28FA0F184B25444F8BA2F1EC5FC42C04@AGB> Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 18:26:54 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: AW: 503.7 Multi-function beacon ... Its working ! Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c598329137ed04649fa9ac X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m246.2 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --001636c598329137ed04649fa9ac Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It is no trouble to continue the transmission. I have set up the equipment in the garage where it does not get in the way of other shack activites, and won't do too much damage if the euipment blows up! So I can leave it running for a few weeks unless the antenna is needed for other purposes.. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/3/8 Beckmann, Gerhard > Hi Graham, > > > > Thank you for your statement! > > Well actually, especially Scattergram or equal measurement methods would b= e > of interest regarding the aspect of signal path monitoring. (direct wave / > sky wave via cross correlation of pulse delay values). > > However, the aspect of interferences by using 500us pulses has to be taken > into consideration but may be there are coming up suitable solution by the > LF-group. > > Another method of monitoring the signal path on 500 kHz could possibly > performed by using the =93PSK Sounder=94 software from ZL2AFP. And what I=20= saw on > a first glance it should be usable for transmission and reception in order > to monitor the signal path situation. > > > > By the way: > > Do you know if Andy is continuing the Multi-function beaconing on 503.7 > kHz? > > In this case I would try long term signal monitoring by GB3RAL.exe and PSK > message decoding within the next evening sessions. > > > > vy 73 de Gerhard / DK6NI > > > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > *Von:* owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto: > owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] *Im Auftrag von *Graham > *Gesendet:* Sonntag, 8. M=E4rz 2009 15:36 > *An:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > *Betreff:* Re: LF: AW: 503.7 Multi-function beacon ... Its working ! > > > > Hi, Grerhard, > > > > Andy's post about the new beacon came out of the blue, (as is the signal > hihi), Working on this, I've simply added a page to the uk500khz news > group and posted links about to generate some interest and make sure the > beacon details are known to hams and swl's out side this reflector .. > > > > The only thing that occurs to me is that there is a possibility for > reception reports to be directed to the 5 meg group , I note that the > graph generator by G4IRX requests your call and locator before processin= g > the file and presenting you with a plot. so I will see if anything can be > done to prevent this , the data format is of course distorted by having > only one active beacon.. so it will show up .. but may as yet be unexpecte= d > ...! > > > > I note from previous email that the pulse aspect of the beacon is require= d > for precise measurements, I think that may be possible to set up a > 'experiment' but the aspect of interference to other users may be > significant, Andy has referred to the concept of 'phase reversal' in a > continues carrier system (or medium pulse ?) that would perhaps be a > acceptable mode of modulation, weather it could be transmitted by a 'norma= l' > transmitter im note sure , but its worth noting that activities on 500, to > date are not 'funded' as such and time and capital out lay are part of th= e > 'hobby' and such hardware requirements and software re-writes are beyond > many of the active stations. but perhaps as interest spreads .. things may > change ..? > > > > Tnx- > > > > Graham > > > > G0NBD > > IO83LK > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *From:* Beckmann, Gerhard > > *Sent:* Sunday, March 08, 2009 11:06 AM > > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > *Cc:* 'Robert Hemesley' > > *Subject:* LF: AW: 503.7 Multi-function beacon ... Its working ! > > > > Hello Graham, Hello Andy, > > > > reading about your activities concerning Multi-function beacon I tried > yesterday evening to catch your signals, but unfortunately with no results > copying your sig. May be condx were not good enough. Moreover I had some > bad manmade QRM from TV and PC. > > > > As Rob Hemesley told you I am active in 5-MHz-beaco- monitoring > specially concerning scattergram monitoring in order to analyse signal pa= th > situation (direct wave / sky wave behaviour). > > But I am running both analysis software, GB3RAL.exe and > Scattergram.exe and it would not be any problem to modify the internal > PC-clock specially regarding GB3RAL.exe in order to analyse the long term > signal level of your Multi-function beacon. So I will try to continue > monitoring your Multi-function beacon hopefully that condx will be better=20= in > the next evening sessions (hi). > > If there will be Scattergram acties in future I certainly need some > more dB signal level, but it would be very interesting to investigate the > signal path situation. > > Of course, this is more interesting for those participants who are > located in a distance range between 150 and 300 km in order to monitor the > slide crossover from direct wave to sky wave signal path. > > However, thank you very much for implementation of your very > interesting Multi-function beacon project and I will keep on running my > monitoring activities and will inform you in any case about further result= s. > > > > vy 73 and a lot of success by running Multi-function beacons, I will be=20= =93on > the qui vive=94 !!! > > > > de Gerhard / DK6NI (JN59LN) > > > > By the way: > > Dial frequency 505.2 kHz, is that o.k.? (because GB3RAL.exe is decoding > with 1500 Hz too). > > For BPSK31-decoding I am using DigiPan Vers.2.0 > > > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > *Von:* owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto: > owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] *Im Auftrag von *Graham > *Gesendet:* Samstag, 7. M=E4rz 2009 23:46 > *An:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > *Betreff:* LF: 503.7 Multi-function beacon ... Its working ! > > > > So far so good .. quite a step up in signal round 2100 hrs > > no frequency decode before then , 15 db over noise at 2130 > > > > but a trend showing > > about 1 hour slow qsb > > > > any other reports ? > > > > G .. > > > ------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.9/1988 - Release Date: 03/06/09 > 19:17:00 > --001636c598329137ed04649fa9ac Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
It is no trouble to continue the transmission.=A0 I have set up the equ= ipment in the garage where it does not get in the way of other shack activit= es, and won't do too much damage if the euipment blows up!=A0 So I can l= eave it running for a few weeks unless the antenna is needed for other purpo= ses..

Andy =A0G4JNT
www= .g4jnt.com


2009/3/8 Beckmann, Gerhard <= beckmann.erlangen@freenet.de= >

Hi G= raham,

=A0<= /span>

Thank you for your statement!

Well actually, especially Scattergram or equal measurement method= s would be of interest regarding the aspect of signal path monitoring. (dire= ct wave / sky wave via cross correlation of pulse delay values).

However, the aspect of interferences by using 500us pulses has to= be taken into consideration but may be there are coming up suitable solutio= n by the LF-group.

Another method of monitoring the signal path on 500 kHz could pos= sibly performed by using the =93PSK Sounder=94 software from ZL2AFP. And wha= t I saw on a first glance it should be usable for transmission and reception= in order to monitor the signal path situation.

=A0

By the way:

Do you know if Andy is continuing the Multi-function beaconing on= 503.7 kHz?

In this case I would try long term signal monitoring by GB3RAL..e= xe and PSK message decoding within the next evening sessions.<= /p>

=A0

vy 73 de Gerhard / DK6NI

=A0

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

=A0

=A0

=A0

Von: owner-rsgb_= lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] <= span style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Im Auftrag von Graham
Gesendet: Sonntag, 8. M=E4rz= 2009 15:36=20


An: rsgb_lf_grou= p@blacksheep.org
Betreff:<= /span> Re: LF: AW: 503.7 Multi-function beacon ... Its working !<= /font>=20

=A0

Hi, Grerhard,

=A0

Andy's post about the=A0 new beacon came out of the=A0 blue,=20= (as is the signal hihi), Working on this, =A0I've simply added a page to= the=A0 uk500khz news group and posted links about to=A0 generate some inter= est and make sure=A0the beacon=A0details are known to hams and swl's out= side this reflector ..

=A0

The only thing that occurs to=A0 me is that there is a possibilit= y for reception reports to be=A0 directed to the 5 meg group , I note that t= he=A0 graph generator by G4IRX=A0 requests your call and locator=A0 before p= rocessing the file and presenting you with a plot. so I will see if anything= can be done to=A0 prevent this , the data format is of course distorted by=20= having only one active beacon.. so it will show up .. but may as yet be unex= pected ...!

=A0

I note from previous email that the pulse aspect of the=A0 beacon= is required for precise measurements, I think that may be possible to set u= p a 'experiment' =A0but the aspect of interference to=A0 other users= may be significant, Andy has referred to the concept of 'phase reversal= ' in a continues carrier system (or medium pulse ?) that would perhaps b= e a acceptable mode of modulation, weather it could be transmitted by a '= ;normal' transmitter im note sure , but its worth noting that activities= on 500, to date =A0are not 'funded' as such and time and capital ou= t lay are part of the 'hobby' and such hardware requirements =A0and=20= software re-writes are beyond many of the active stations. but perhaps as in= terest spreads .. things may change ..?

=A0

Tnx-

=A0

Graham

=A0

G0NBD

IO83LK

=A0

=A0

=A0

=A0

=A0

=A0

=A0

=A0

Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 11:06 AM

Subject:= LF: AW: 503.7 Multi-function beacon ... Its wor= king !

=A0

Hello Graham, Hello Andy,

=A0

reading about your activities concerning Multi-fun= ction beacon I tried yesterday evening to catch your signals, but unfortunat= ely with no results copying your sig. May be condx were not good enough.=A0=20= Moreover I had some bad manmade QRM from TV and PC.

=A0

=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 As Rob Hemesley told you I am acti= ve in 5-MHz-beaco- monitoring specially concerning=A0 scattergram monitoring= in order to analyse signal path situation (direct wave / sky wave behaviour= ).

=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 But I am running both analysis sof= tware, GB3RAL.exe and Scattergram.exe and it would not be any problem to mod= ify the internal PC-clock specially regarding GB3RAL.exe in order to analyse= the long term signal level of your Multi-function beacon. So I will try to=20= continue monitoring your Multi-function beacon hopefully that condx will be=20= better in the next evening sessions (hi).

=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 If there will be Scattergram actie= s in future I certainly need some more dB signal level, but it would be very= interesting to investigate the signal path situation.

=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Of course, this is more interestin= g for those participants who are located in a distance range between 150 and= 300 km in order to monitor the slide crossover from direct wave to sky wave= signal path.

=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0=A0However, thank you very much fo= r implementation of your very interesting Multi-function beacon project and=20= I will keep on running my monitoring activities and will inform you in any c= ase about further results.

=A0

vy 73 and a lot of success by running Multi-functi= on beacons, I will be =93on the qui vive=94 !!!

=A0

de Gerhard=A0 /=A0 DK6NI=A0 (JN59LN)=

=A0

By the way:

Dial frequency 505.2 kHz, is that o.k.? (because G= B3RAL.exe is decoding with 1500 Hz too).

For BPSK31-decoding I am using DigiPan Vers.2.0

=A0

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

=A0

=A0

=A0

Von: owner-rsgb_= lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] <= span style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Im Auftrag von Graham
Gesendet: Samstag, 7. M=E4rz= 2009 23:46
An: rsgb_lf_group@bla= cksheep.org
Betreff: LF: 503.7 Multi-fun= ction beacon ... Its working !

=A0

So far so good .. quite a step up in signal round 2100 hrs=A0

no frequency decode before then , 15 db over noise at 2130=

=A0

but a trend showing

about=A0 1 hour slow qsb

=A0

any other reports ?

=A0

G ..

=A0


No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 8.0.= .237 / Virus Database: 270.11.9/1988 - Release Date: 03/06/09 19:17:00


--001636c598329137ed04649fa9ac-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da04.mx.aol.com (rly-da04.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.78]) by air-da02.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA024-a6449c4de333d3; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 08:32:01 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da04.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA044-a6449c4de333d3; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 08:31:49 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ll0MW-0003im-CD for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 12:31:40 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ll0MW-0003id-1A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 12:31:40 +0000 Received: from imo-d21.mx.aol.com ([205.188.144.207]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ll0MT-0002WY-33 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 12:31:39 +0000 Received: from F4DTL@aol.com by imo-d21.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id l.d1d.412010ed (39952) for ; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 08:31:25 -0400 (EDT) From: F4DTL@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 08:31:25 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5029 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_FONT_BIG=0.256,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: 137 at 1035-1040z Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1237638685" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_FONT_BIG,HTML_MESSAGE,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 -------------------------------1237638685 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 Many thanx dear John,i hope to see you during a next Ham meeting in France. =20 73 de F4DTL Nicolas =20 Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 21/03/2009 11:46:25 Paris, Madrid, =20 john.rabson@wanadoo.fr a =E9crit : DTL very strong BWO/XDV strong cq de g3mfw weak but diecipherable 73 John Rabson=20 F5VLF 58800 Cervon France JN17vg -------------------------------1237638685 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Many thanx dear John,i hope to see you during a next Ham meeting i= n=20 France.
 
73 de F4DTL Nicolas
 
Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 21/03/2009 11:46:25 Paris, Madrid,=20 john.rabson@wanadoo.fr a =E9crit :
DTL= very=20 strong
BWO/XDV strong
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73
John Rabson
F5VLF
58800=20 Cervon
France
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 -------------------------------1237638685-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da04.mx.aol.com (rly-da04.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.78]) by air-da03.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDA031-a6749ab1f7c5a; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 18:51:47 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da04.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA047-a6749ab1f7c5a; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 18:51:26 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LdvRA-00033h-Eo for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 23:51:12 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LdvR9-00033Y-Tv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 23:51:11 +0000 Received: from fish2.hurontel.on.ca ([216.46.129.163]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LdvR8-0006Qu-IC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 23:51:11 +0000 Received: from weazle (pppoe.dyn-216.46.157.28.hurontel.on.ca [216.46.157.28]) by fish2.hurontel.on.ca (Spam Firewall) with SMTP id 91CB68F01C0 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 18:51:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from weazle (pppoe.dyn-216.46.157.28.hurontel.on.ca [216.46.157.28]) by fish2.hurontel.on.ca with SMTP id bWsLl2NWpSXJKejR for ; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 18:51:01 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <000001c99ac8$92fa8c80$0b01a8c0@weazle> From: "J. B. Weazle McCreath" To: References: <49AAF908.7040906@charter.net> <20090301223044.8i4kbe2osr5wco8o@webmail4.kuleuven.be> <49AB04A1.2030308@charter.net> <017801c99ab9$f8e9a9e0$6401a8c0@asus> <49AB098D.1020505@charter.net> Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 23:50:57 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WE2XGR/3 WSPR tonight Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=LINES_OF_YELLING autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi John, LFers, Here's a bit of my capture of your WSPR signals in EN93DR. I've been watching for WE2XVY as well, but nothing so far. I guess I'll be more likely than Rik to get a copy! 090301 2324 3 -14 -0.1 0.508069 W1TAG FN42 53 090301 2328 6 -14 0.2 0.508069 W1TAG FN42 53 090301 2332 2 -16 0.2 0.508069 W1TAG FN42 53 090301 2336 1 -19 -0.1 0.508069 W1TAG FN42 53 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL Solar and wind powered Lowfer " EAR" 188.830 EN93dr http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db09.mx.aol.com (rly-db09.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.84]) by air-db09.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB094-aea49ce7e816d; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 15:46:14 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db09.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB098-aea49ce7e816d; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 15:46:12 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LneTS-0000ip-GK for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 19:45:46 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LneTS-0000ie-3R for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 19:45:46 +0000 Received: from smtp06.online.nl ([194.134.42.51]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LneTQ-00072c-RQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 19:45:46 +0000 Received: from smtp06.online.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp06.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBF9E963AA for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 20:45:08 +0100 (CET) Received: from pa3fnytrqxpddu (s5593e077.adsl.wanadoo.nl [85.147.224.119]) by smtp06.online.nl (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 20:45:08 +0100 (CET) From: To: Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 20:45:08 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <007201c9afda$c31fc3e0$6501a8c0@TORRE> X-Online-Scanned: by Cloudmark authority (on smtp06.online.nl) X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: RE: LF: Lazy Man's CW made it to Venus and back Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Paarlen voor de zwijnen....(Dutch) Victor -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens Henrique Pessoa Verzonden: zaterdag 28 maart 2009 20:24 Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Onderwerp: Re: LF: Lazy Man's CW made it to Venus and back Well, for the statistics, a portuguese version same sense is also available it reads " dar p=E9rolas a porcos ". 73 Henrique CT1HX ----- Original Message ----- From: "John RABSON" To: Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 7:50 AM Subject: Re: LF: Lazy Man's CW made it to Venus and back On 26/03/2009 at 23:34 Johan H. Bodin wrote: >I didn't know it was an English saying/proverb! The swedish translation >"Kasta p=E4rlor f=F6r svinen" is sometimes used in similar circumstances... Very close. 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boundary=001636c5b47014c0670465171aab X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d223.2 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --001636c5b47014c0670465171aab Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Nothing happens here - the systems just carries on as usual. Its noticable that during those periods, the signal drops to the daytime groundwave level. Blame the sun :-) Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/3/14 Graham > Ok Andy , > > I have multi traces due to local noise/carriers floating about and > coinciding with the measuring windows... > > Noticed a couple of things so far , Gary and my plots show a dip in signal > 18:00 to 20:00 .. what happens round then ? and round 07:00 a single > sharp dip.. ? > > Gerhards plot looks to show the 'pre dawn' lift that I have never see > before .. it was mentioned in a talk on MW dx at one of the HFC a while ago > > Tnx, G .. > > > > *From:* Andy Talbot > *Sent:* Saturday, March 14, 2009 1:36 PM > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > *Subject:* Re: LF: Re: Re: Multi-function beacon > > That listing was 5.29MHz to prove the S/W - it shows the power and tone > frequencies of all three - RAL/WES/ORK on the TA path. > > Don't forget to offset the time :-) > > Andy G4JNT > www.g4jnt.com > > > 2009/3/14 Graham > >> Dave, >>> *Sample of 5290kc. over last night.<<<* >> ** >> *Is this from 5290 or 503.7 ....... ??* >> ** >> *Graham .. * >> >> >> >> *From:* dave.riley3 >> *Sent:* Saturday, March 14, 2009 12:08 PM >> *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> *Cc:* 600MRG >> *Subject:* LF: Re: Re: Multi-function beacon >> >> *Andy, beacons,* >> ** >> *Looks like the beacon program is up and running correctly as 5 mhz shows >> relative sigs and frequency counts.* >> ** >> *Last night conditions here were very poor for T/A on 600m, even with >> this broad high pressure area that helped keep the noise down. Even DI2AM >> was very weak and SM6BHZ did not decode.* >> ** >> *So I will run it again on you tonight, but I did see remnanats of what >> looks like a letter K during the beacon transmission times from you ( in >> ARGO QRSS3 )...* >> ** >> ** >> *Sample of 5290kc. over last night.* >> ** >> *2009 03 14 03 00 47.51 39.97 36.06 23.91 0.00 1495.70 1494.14 0.00 >> 2009 03 14 03 15 34.12 37.03 31.32 23.36 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 >> 2009 03 14 03 30 33.87 30.14 35.05 29.91 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 >> 2009 03 14 03 45 30.91 26.89 26.38 23.12 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 >> 2009 03 14 04 00 32.25 44.39 25.68 24.24 0.00 0.00 1494.14 0.00 >> 2009 03 14 04 15 40.13 39.54 35.79 24.24 0.00 1495.51 1494.14 0.00 >> 2009 03 14 04 30 44.71 42.47 29.35 30.72 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 >> 2009 03 14 04 45 33.16 37.11 35.32 23.03 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 >> 2009 03 14 05 00 48.07 46.44 34.46 25.30 0.00 1495.90 1494.14 0.00 >> 2009 03 14 05 15 43.12 47.39 30.40 23.83 0.00 1495.70 1494.14 0.00 >> 2009 03 14 05 30 48.13 31.83 37.48 26.50 0.00 1495.70 0.00 0.00 >> 2009 03 14 05 45 47.11 42.90 37.04 22.88 0.00 1495.90 1494.34 0.00 >> 2009 03 14 06 00 28.69 30.99 30.46 23.66 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 >> 2009 03 14 06 15 41.04 31.09 29.58 23.29 0.00 1495.90 0.00 0.00* >> ** >> *The 'red' station usually seems the strongest on the graph...* >> ** >> *TNX* >> ** >> *Dave @ /17* >> ** >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> *From:* Andy Talbot >> *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org ; uk_beacons@yahoogroups.com >> *Sent:* Friday, March 13, 2009 5:57 AM >> *Subject:* LF: Re: Multi-function beacon >> >> Just a reminder to all - this beacon is still going, and will probably >> continue to do so until further notice. A few listeners have downloaded >> the software, and thanks to all (you know who your are :-) for the plots / >> listings. I am not in a position to compile them, so don't expect >> revelations, but Gerhard / DK6NI has been monitoring pretty >> well continuously, and has plotted some deep fades / enhancements measured >> over hours with depths in the regions of 30dB. >> >> Are there any stations in the US in a position to monitor ? >> >> Please note that if using the recommended 5meg beacon monitoring software >> you'll either have to set the delta time to -240 (or -180 or -120) seconds >> or adjust the PC clock by two, three or four minutes to cope with the four >> minute offset I'm running it on. >> >> Andy G4JNT >> www.g4jnt.com >> >> >> 2009/3/6 Andy Talbot >> >>> I've now started transmitting a timed beacon signal on 503.7kHz that >>> is identical in format to that of GB3SSS operated over the winter months of >>> the last two years from Poldhu on 1.9 and 3.5MHz, and has a similar signal >>> structure to the 5MHz beacons, GB3RAL, WES and ORK. These all have an >>> initial CW ident and stepped power levels for aural reception, and a >>> precisely defined period of full-power plain carrier for S/N measurements. >>> See http://www.rsgb-spectrumforum.org.uk/5mhz%20beacons.htm for the >>> complete 5MHz signal structure. For this MF transmission, as on GB3SSS, >>> the pulsed sounder sequence of the 5MHz beacons is replaced with a PSK31 >>> message which lasts from 30s to approx 48 seconds after the start >>> >>> Auto Monitoring software writen by G3PLX is available for monitoring >>> these beacons, it measures signal to noise during the carrier period and >>> saves to file as well as plotting the last 40 hours worth of measurements. >>> The software can be downloaded from >>> http://www.rsgb.org/spectrumforum/hf/beaconauto.php . PSK31 data can >>> be copied with Digipan, Fldigi, PSK31SBW or a host of other packages. >>> >>> *TIMING * >>> The 503.7kHz transmission takes place every 15 minutes at 4 minutes past >>> the quarter hour. >>> ie each transmission starts at *xx:04, xx:19, xx:34 and xx:49 * This >>> time slot has been selected so that the transmission do not interfere with >>> my continuous ongoing reception of the 5Mhz beacons - the active antenna >>> used for these is overloaded by the 500kHz signal and I have already lost >>> data when the WSPR beacon transmission coincided with one of the monitoring >>> windows. >>> >>> NOTE If using the G3PLX software, this only monitors for the three 5MHz >>> beacons at 00, 01 and 02 minutes. >>> *SO IT WILL BE NECESSARY TO FRIG THE SOFTWARE * to monitor >>> this transmission at the 04 minute point. The necessary alteration can be >>> done by firstly setting your PC clock accurately to the correct time, then >>> setting the Track Time box to -240 (minus 240 seconds). This will make the >>> software look for this transmission during the time window it thinks it >>> would be receiving GB3RAL, and log the MF transmission during the first >>> minute, on the red trace, as if it were GB3RAL >>> >>> The beacon uses the identical hardware to the WSPR transmissions of the >>> last few weeks, with the the only change being a reprogramming of the >>> controller PIC. In fact the very same hardware was previously loaned to >>> the Poldhu club for their beacons, with the only difference being a change >>> to the final Low Pass filter on the output of the broadband PA. >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.13/2001 - Release Date: 03/13/09 >> 05:59:00 >> >> > ------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.13/2001 - Release Date: 03/14/09 > 06:54:00 > > --001636c5b47014c0670465171aab Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Nothing happens here - the systems=A0just carries on as usual.=A0=A0 It= s noticable that=A0during those periods, the signal drops to the daytime gro= undwave level.
=A0
Blame the sun :-)

Andy =A0G4JNT
www= .g4jnt.com


2009/3/14 Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
Ok Andy ,
=A0
I have multi traces due to=A0 local noi= se/carriers floating about and=A0 coinciding with the measuring windows... <= /font>
=A0
Noticed a couple of things so=A0 far ,=20= Gary and my plots show a dip in signal 18:00=A0 to=A0 20:00=A0.. what happen= s round then ? =A0and round =A007:00 a single sharp dip.. ?
=A0
Gerhards plot looks to=A0 show the '= ;pre dawn' lift that I have never see before .. it was mentioned in a ta= lk on MW dx at one of the HFC a while ago
=A0
Tnx, G ..
=A0
=A0

Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 1:36 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: Multi-function beacon

That listing was 5.29MHz to prove the S/W - it shows the power and tone= frequencies of all three - RAL/WES/ORK on the TA path.
=A0
Don't forget to offset the time :-)

Andy =A0G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com


2009/3/14 Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.u= k>
Dave, >>> Sample of 5290kc. over last night.<<<
=A0
Is this=A0 from 5290=A0 or=A0 503.7 ....... ??=
=A0
Graham ..
=A0
=A0

Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 12:08 PM
Cc: 600MRG
Subject: LF: Re: Re: Multi-function beacon

Andy, beacons,
=A0
Looks like the beacon program is up and runnin= g correctly as 5 mhz shows relative sigs and frequency counts.
=A0
Last night conditions here were very poor for=20= T/A on 600m, even with this broad high pressure area that helped keep the no= ise down. Even DI2AM was very weak and SM6BHZ did not decode.
=A0
So I will run it again on you tonight, but I d= id see remnanats of what looks like a letter K during the beacon transmissio= n times from you ( in ARGO QRSS3 )...
=A0
=A0
Sample of 5290kc. over last night.
=A0
2009 03 14 03 00 47.51 39.97 36.06 23.91 0.00=20= 1495.70 1494.14 0.00
2009 03 14 03 15 34.12 37.03 31.32 23.36 0.00 0.00 0= .00 0.00
2009 03 14 03 30 33.87 30.14 35.05 29.91 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
2009 03 14 03 45 30.91 26.89 26.38 23.12 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
2009 03 14 0= 4 00 32.25 44.39 25.68 24.24 0.00 0.00 1494.14 0.00
2009 03 14 04 15 40..= 13 39.54 35.79 24.24 0.00 1495.51 1494.14 0.00
2009 03 14 04 30 44.71 42.= 47 29.35 30.72 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
2009 03 14 04 45 33.16 37.11 35.32 23.03 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
2009 03 14 0= 5 00 48.07 46.44 34.46 25.30 0.00 1495.90 1494.14 0.00
2009 03 14 05 15 4= 3.12 47.39 30.40 23.83 0.00 1495.70 1494.14 0.00
2009 03 14 05 30 48.13 3= 1.83 37.48 26.50 0.00 1495.70 0.00 0.00
2009 03 14 05 45 47.11 42.90 37.04 22.88 0.00 1495.90 1494.34 0.00
2009 0= 3 14 06 00 28.69 30.99 30.46 23.66 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
2009 03 14 06 15 4= 1.04 31.09 29.58 23.29 0.00 1495.90 0.00 0.00
=A0
The 'red' station usually seems the st= rongest on the graph...
=A0
TNX
=A0
Dave @ /17
=A0
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 5:57 AM<= /div>
Subject: LF: Re: Multi-function beaco= n

Just a reminder to all - this beacon is still going, and will probably=20= continue to do so until further notice.=A0=A0 A few listeners have downloade= d the software, and thanks to all (you know who your are :-) for the plots /= listings.=A0=A0 I am not in a position to compile them, so don't expect= revelations, but Gerhard=A0 /=A0 DK6NI has been monitoring pretty well=A0co= ntinuously, and has plotted some=A0deep fades / enhancements measured over h= ours with depths in the regions of 30dB.
=A0
Are there any stations in the US in a position to monitor ?=A0=A0
=A0
Please note that if using the recommended 5meg beacon monitoring softwa= re you'll either have to set the delta time to -240 (or -180 or -120) se= conds or adjust the PC clock by two, three or four minutes to cope with the=20= four minute offset I'm running it on.
=A0
Andy =A0G4JNT
2009/3/6 Andy Talbot <andy.g4jnt@googlema= il.com>
I've now=A0started transmitting a timed=A0 beacon signal on 503.7kH= z that is=A0identical in format to that of GB3SSS operated over the winter m= onths of the last two years=A0=A0from Poldhu on 1.9 and 3.5MHz, =A0and has= =A0a similar signal structure to the 5MHz beacons, GB3RAL, WES and ORK.=A0 T= hese all have=A0an initial CW ident and=A0stepped power levels for aural rec= eption,=A0and a precisely defined period of full-power plain carrier for S/N= measurements.=A0=A0
See=A0 =A0http://www.rsgb-spectrumforum.org.uk/5mhz%20beacons= .htm=A0 for the complete 5MHz =A0signal structure.=A0=A0For this MF tran= smission, as on GB3SSS, the pulsed sounder sequence of the 5MHz beacons is r= eplaced with a PSK31 message which lasts from=A030s to approx 48 seconds aft= er the start
=A0
Auto Monitoring software writen by G3PLX is available for monitoring th= ese beacons, it measures signal to noise during the carrier period and saves= to file as well as plotting the last 40 hours worth of measurements.
The software can be downloaded from=A0 http://www.rsgb.org/spectr= umforum/hf/beaconauto.php=A0.=A0=A0 PSK31 data can be copied with Digipa= n, Fldigi, PSK31SBW or a host of other packages.
=A0
TIMING
The 503.7kHz transmission takes place every 15 minutes at 4 minutes pas= t the quarter hour.=A0
ie=A0each transmission starts at xx:04, xx:19, xx:34 and xx:49= =A0=A0=A0=A0This time slot has been selected so that the transmissi= on do not interfere with my continuous ongoing reception of the 5Mhz beacons= - the active antenna used for these is overloaded by the 500kHz signal and=20= I have already lost data when the WSPR beacon transmission coincided with on= e of the monitoring windows.
=A0
NOTE=A0=A0 If using the=A0G3PLX software, this only=A0monitors for the=20= three 5MHz beacons at =A000, 01 and 02 minutes.
SO IT WILL BE NECESSARY=A0TO FRIG=A0THE SOFTWARE =A0to= monitor this=A0transmission at the 04 minute point.=A0=A0=A0The necessary a= lteration can be done by firstly setting=A0your PC clock accurately to the c= orrect time, then setting the Track Time box to -240 (minus 240 seconds)..= =A0 This will make the software look for this transmission during the time= =A0window it thinks it would be receiving GB3RAL, and log the=A0MF transmiss= ion during the first minute, on the red trace, as if it were GB3RAL=A0
=A0
The beacon uses the identical hardware to the=A0WSPR transmissions of= =A0the last few weeks, with the the only change being a=A0reprogramming of t= he controller PIC.=A0=A0 In fact the very same hardware was previously loane= d to the Poldhu club for their beacons, with the only difference being a cha= nge to the final Low Pass filter on the output of the broadband PA.
=A0


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--001636c5b47014c0670465171aab-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh09.mx.aol.com (rly-mh09.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.145]) by air-mh03.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMH034-bf549ad959b174; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 15:40:13 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh09.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH095-bf549ad959b174; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 15:39:57 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LebOV-0003QX-KC for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 20:39:15 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LebOV-0003QO-4I for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 20:39:15 +0000 Received: from fmmailgate03.web.de ([217.72.192.234]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LebOT-0007H9-2t for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 20:39:15 +0000 Received: from smtp06.web.de (fmsmtp06.dlan.cinetic.de [172.20.5.172]) by fmmailgate03.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F51FF8DCB0A; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 21:39:03 +0100 (CET) Received: from [217.227.82.108] (helo=[192.168.1.101]) by smtp06.web.de with esmtp (WEB.DE 4.110 #277) id 1LebOI-0001j0-00; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 21:39:03 +0100 Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 21:38:59 +0100 From: Michael Oexner X-Mailer: The Bat! (v2.12.00) Personal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <692239273.20090303213859@web.de> To: Chris McCarthy CC: Gus In-Reply-To: <3aaadcb80903031200n53a5f4deib9fae3ec20448cc1@mail.gmail.com> References: <3aaadcb80903031200n53a5f4deib9fae3ec20448cc1@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: michael.oexner@web.de X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/HuDZ2jH/HSnRr4W7mwOX/S9qAdZSFYZZXmnQy /5pfUQPaSvMVeH5uPGkrslo1NyQgwEiwHMZu+UmI6YrJMtmxGB 7qpCjBJdjfM0kr/sl1KA== X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: Re: LF: 500KHz SM6BHZ WSPR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=LINES_OF_YELLING, UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Chris & Gus & list, > SM6BHZ is TX'ing WSPR now on (I make it about 504.5) dial 503.00 USB. > 1956=A0 -4=A0 0.9=A0=A0 0.504503=A0 0 SM6BHZ JO57 30 > Chris G3XVL Ipswich (JO02NB) Thanks for the alert. Here's what I've been getting: 2004 -3 1.2 0.504496 -1 SM6BHZ JO57 30 2006 -4 1.1 0.504495 0 SM6BHZ JO57 30 2008 -2 1.3 0.504496 0 SM6BHZ JO57 30 2012 0 1.2 0.504496 -1 SM6BHZ JO57 30 2014 0 0.9 0.504495 1 SM6BHZ JO57 30 2016 -4 1.2 0.504496 0 SM6BHZ JO57 30 2018 -3 1.1 0.504496 0 SM6BHZ JO57 30 2020 -2 1.2 0.504496 0 SM6BHZ JO57 30 2022 -1 1.7 0.504496 0 SM6BHZ JO57 30 --=20 vy 73 + gd DX, Michael RX: ICOM R75, SDR-IQ, Perseus Antenna: Wellbrook ALA 1530, Mini-Whip Location: Roschbach, Germany N 49=B015' E 8=B007' / Locator JN49BF Editor of "The European NDB Handbook" & "The North American NDB Handbook" cf. http://lwca.org/miscdocs/oexner/2009NDBinfo.zip From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma09.mx.aol.com (rly-ma09.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.53]) by air-ma04.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMA041-8ca49be91821da; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 13:51:43 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma09.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA094-8ca49be91821da; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 13:51:00 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LjGxT-0005C7-CL for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 17:50:39 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LjGxS-0005By-5w for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 17:50:38 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.159]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LjGxP-0004cR-Mc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 17:50:38 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3433.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 3A0CC7000085 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 18:50:30 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.61.111]) by mwinf3433.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 283EA7000083 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 18:50:29 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20090316175029164.283EA7000083@mwinf3433.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: References: <009001c9a588$7eb02c60$6401a8c0@asus> <00e001c9a5a7$f07216a0$6401a8c0@asus> <826BA6086575402A8C87062492069F5A@AGB> <004501c9a623$a4bf81d0$6401a8c0@asus> In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 17:50:28 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8064.206 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8064.206 X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,EXTRA_MPART_TYPE=0.815,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software Content-Type: multipart/related; type="multipart/alternative"; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_006F_01C9A65F.B185F520" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_006F_01C9A65F.B185F520 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0070_01C9A65F.B185F520" ------=_NextPart_001_0070_01C9A65F.B185F520 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Andy, That's the problem with windows hihi .. lucky to get as pulse the same=20= minuet ....but what happens if the tx pulse is slightly before and after= the measurement window ? That was the idea behind the multiplex beacon .. plenty of room for pulse=20= jitter=20 G .=20 From: Andy Talbot=20 Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 11:17 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software Those two time slots of 15 minute interval plus 5 and 6 that generate the gr= een and blue traces could be used by others. There is no need to generate t= he full beacon sequence, just a precisely time 5 second transmission every 1= 5 minutes. All the monitoring software does is look at the carrier S/N duri= ng the precise interval of 25 to 30 seconds. So, if someone could come up with a Tx that transmits precisely for 5 second= intervals at xx:05:25 , xx:20:25, xx:35:20 and xx:50:35:25 where xx: is= the hour it will show up as the gree trace on Gary's plot. Similarly, at=20= xx:06:25 etc it will appear as the blue trace. =20 Try it manually to see :-) Timing is extremally important though. Accurcy needs to be within 0.5 seco= nds for the monitoring S/W to make an accurate level recording, which makes=20= GPS or network based controlled timing almost mandatory. I've switched off at the moment as mentioned earlier, but should be able to=20= activate again by about 18:30.=20 Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/3/16 Gary - G4WGT Hi Graham, LF, You wrote :- >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute interv= als. <<< that could be backed off to 15 mins as the beacon only sends ever= y 15 ??=20 I mentioned in my previous mail to ignore the text on the page as it was o= riginally for grabber 1 for when I upgrade the web site (to a new design & b= etter navigation etc), also mentioned is that upload is every 30 minutes. If the uploaded chart proves useful or interesting to operators & viewers=20= then I will change the text & make it a permanent feature for the foreseeabl= e future. BTW :- For those of you who are not familiar with the chart =96=20 The RED trace is Andy=92s (G4JNT) beacon signal & the BLACK trace is the n= oise level at my QTH. The Blue & GREEN are not in use & should be ignored on this chart as they=20= are for the other beacons used when monitoring on the 5MHz allocation. Cheers, Gary =96 G4WGT ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@black= sheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham Sent: 15 March 2009 22:17=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software=20 Gary.. That looks good ... 0500 looks best time for a qso .. see you then =20 >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute interv= als. <<< that could be backed off to 15 mins as the beacon only sends ever= y 15 ??=20 the 15 db over the noise in day time is the same at this qth .. looks li= ke the big dips round 1900 where just when we where testing .. typical hih= i tnx- G ..=20 From: Gary - G4WGT=20 Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 7:55 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: LF: RE: Syncback software LF, I have now got the software, Syncback running correctly (I think). The purpose of this is to upload the chart from Andy=92s beacon as receive= d here to my web site periodically, ie. every 30 minutes. I now have a receiver running 24/7 monitoring Andy,s beacon on 503.7KHz. You can view the chart on my web site at :- http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html For the moment ignore the text on the page as it is originally designed to= use with the 500KHz grabber when I renew my web site design. If it is a use= ful upload I will make it a permanent feature but may have to extend the fre= quency coverage of grabber 1 so not to overload the PC with operations which= will cause the PC to struggle. Let me have your comments please. 73 Gary =96 G4WGT. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@black= sheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT Sent: 15 March 2009 16:10 To: LF -RSGB LF Group Subject: LF: Syncback software Hi LF, If anyone is using Syncback software & can help, please. I am tying to upload a file to my website who=92s filename does not change= , only the file size changes. I tried to do it with Argo-upload but failed s= o I downloaded Syncback & still failing. Syncback gives me the following message :- ********************************** Can connect, but unable to change to destination directory: /chart01.bmp:not a directory ********************************** The Syncback help does not give me the answer. Any help will be appreciated Or Will Argo-Upload do it? Or Is there something else to do it? Thanks in anticipation, 73, Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.13/2001 - Release Date: 03/14/09= 06:54:00 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.15/2003 - Release Date: 03/15/09 1= 4:07:00 ------=_NextPart_001_0070_01C9A65F.B185F520 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Andy,
 
That's the  problem with windows hihi&= nbsp; ..=20 lucky  to  get as pulse the  same minuet  ....but w= hat=20 happens if the  tx pulse is slightly  before and  after the&n= bsp;=20 measurement window ?
 
That was the idea behind the multiplex beac= on =20 ... plenty of room for  pulse jitter
 
G .

Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 11:17 AM
Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software

Those two time slots of 15 minute interval plus 5 and 6 that gener= ate=20 the green and blue traces could be used by others.  There is no ne= ed=20 to generate the full beacon sequence, just a precisely time 5 second=20 transmission every 15 minutes.  All the monitoring software does is loo= k at=20 the carrier S/N during the precise interval of 25 to 30 seconds.
 
So, if someone could come up with a Tx that transmits precisely for 5=20 second intervals at xx:05:25 , xx:20:25,  xx:35:20 and =20 xx:50:35:25   where xx: is the hour it will show up as the gree tr= ace=20 on Gary's plot.   Similarly, at xx:06:25 etc it will appear as the= =20 blue trace. 
Try it manually to see :-)
 
Timing is extremally important though.   Accurcy needs to be=20 within 0.5 seconds for the monitoring S/W to make an accurate level recordin= g,=20 which makes GPS or network based controlled timing almost mandatory.
 
I've switched off at the moment as mentioned earlier, but should be abl= e to=20 activate again by about 18:30. 

Andy  G4JNT
= www.g4jnt.com


2009/3/16 Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>

Hi=20 Graham, LF,

<= /B> 

You=20 wrote :-

>&= gt;>Upload=20 is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute intervals.=20 <<< that could be backed off to  15 mins as the beacon=20 only  sends every 15 ??

<= /B> 

I=20 mentioned in my previous mail to ignore the text on the page as it was=20 originally for grabber 1 for when I upgrade the web site (to a new design=20 & better navigation etc), also mentioned is that upload is every 30=20 minutes.

<= /B> 

If=20 the uploaded chart proves useful or interesting to operators & viewers= =20 then I will change the text & make it a permanent feature for the=20 foreseeable future.

<= /B> 

BTW=20 :-

<= /B> 

For=20 those of you  who are not familiar with the chart =96=20

<= /B> 

The=20 RED trace is Andy=92s (G4JNT) beacon signal & the BLACK trace is the n= oise=20 level at my QTH.

<= /B> 

The=20 Blue & GREEN are not in use & should be ignored on this chart as t= hey=20 are for the other beacons used when monitoring on the 5MHz=20 allocation.

<= /B> 

Cheers,<= /FONT>

<= /B> 

Gary=20 =96 G4WGT

<= /B> 

<= /B> 

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:= owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham
Sent: 15 March 2009 22:17=20


To: rsgb_l= f_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback=20 software=20

 

Gary..

 

That looks good  .... 0500=20 looks best time for a qso .. see you then 3D"Smile 

 

>>>Upload is=20 set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute intervals. <<= <=20 that could be backed off to  15 mins as the beacon only  sends e= very=20 15 ??

 

the  15 db over=20 the noise in day time is the  same at this qth .. looks like the big=20= dips=20 round 1900  where just when we where testing ..  typical=20 hihi

 

tnx- G ..=20

 

From:<= /SPAN> Gary - G4WGT=20

Sent:<= /SPAN> Sunday,=20 March 15, 2009 7:55 PM

Subjec= t: LF: RE:=20 Syncback software

 

LF,

<= /B> 

I=20 have now got the software, Syncback running correctly (I=20 think).

<= /B> 

The=20 purpose of this is to upload the chart from Andy=92s beacon as received he= re to=20 my web site periodically, ie. every 30 minutes.

<= /B> 

I=20 now have a receiver running 24/7 monitoring Andy,s beacon on=20 503.7KHz.

<= /B> 

You=20 can view the chart on my web site at :-

<= /B> 

http:= //myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html

<= /B> 

For=20 the moment ignore the text on the page as it is originally designed to use= =20 with the 500KHz grabber when I renew my web site design. If it is a useful= =20 upload I will make it a permanent feature but may have to extend the frequ= ency=20 coverage of grabber 1 so not to overload the PC with operations which will= =20 cause the PC to struggle.

<= /B> 

Let=20 me have your comments please.

<= /B> 

73

<= /B> 

Gary=20 =96 G4WGT.

<= /B> 

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:= owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT
Sent: 15 March 2009 16:10
To: LF -RSGB LF Group
Subject: LF: Syncback=20 software

 

Hi=20 LF,

 

If anyone is=20 using Syncback software & can help, please.

 

I am tying to=20 upload a file to my website who=92s filename does not change, only the fil= e size=20 changes. I tried to do it with Argo-upload but failed so I downloaded Sync= back=20 & still failing.

 

Syncback gives=20 me the following message :-

 

**********************************=

Can connect,=20 but unable to change to destination directory:

/chart01.bmp:not=20 a directory

**********************************=

The Syncback=20 help does not give me the answer.

 

Any help will=20 be appreciated

 

Or

 

Will=20 Argo-Upload do it?

 

Or

 

Is there=20 something else to do it?

 

Thanks in=20 anticipation,

 

73,

 

Gary - G4WGT -=20 IO83QP.

 


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The purpose of this is to upload the chart from Andy's beacon as received here to my web site periodically, ie. every 30 minutes. I now have a receiver running 24/7 monitoring Andy,s beacon on 503.7KHz. You can view the chart on my web site at :- http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html For the moment ignore the text on the page as it is originally designed to use with the 500KHz grabber when I renew my web site design. If it is a useful upload I will make it a permanent feature but may have to extend the frequency coverage of grabber 1 so not to overload the PC with operations which will cause the PC to struggle. Let me have your comments please. 73 Gary - G4WGT. _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT Sent: 15 March 2009 16:10 To: LF -RSGB LF Group Subject: LF: Syncback software Hi LF, If anyone is using Syncback software & can help, please. I am tying to upload a file to my website who's filename does not change, only the file size changes. I tried to do it with Argo-upload but failed so I downloaded Syncback & still failing. Syncback gives me the following message :- ********************************** Can connect, but unable to change to destination directory: /chart01.bmp:not a directory ********************************** The Syncback help does not give me the answer. Any help will be appreciated Or Will Argo-Upload do it? Or Is there something else to do it? Thanks in anticipation, 73, Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. ------=_NextPart_000_00E1_01C9A5A7.F07216A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

LF,=

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I have now got the software, Syncback running correctly (I think).

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The purpose of this is to upload the chart from Andy’s beacon as received here to my web site periodically, ie. every 30 minutes.

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I now have a receiver running 24/7 monitoring Andy,s beacon on 503.7KHz.

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You can view the chart on my web site at :-

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http://myweb.tiscali.= co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html

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For the moment ignore the text on the page as it is originally designed to use with=20= the 500KHz grabber when I renew my web site design. If it is a useful upload I w= ill make it a permanent feature but may have to extend the frequency coverage of grabber 1 so not to overload the PC with operations which will cause the PC=20= to struggle.

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Let me have your comments please.

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73<= /o:p>

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Gary = 211; G4WGT.

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From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT<= br> Sent: 15 March 2009 16:10
To: LF -RSGB LF Group
Subject: LF: Syncback softwar= e

 

Hi LF,=

 =

If anyone is using Syncback sof= tware & can help, please.

 =

I am tying to upload a file to=20= my website who’s filename does not change, only the file size changes. I tried to= do it with Argo-upload but failed so I downloaded Syncback & still failing.=

 =

Syncback gives me the following= message :-

 =

*******************************= ***

Can connect, but unable to chan= ge to destination directory:

/chart01.bmp:not a directory

*******************************= ***

The Syncback help does not give= me the answer.

 =

Any help will be appreciated

 =

Or=

 =

Will Argo-Upload do it?

 =

Or=

 =

Is there something else to do i= t?

 =

Thanks in anticipation,

 =

73,

 

Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.=

 

------=_NextPart_000_00E1_01C9A5A7.F07216A0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf04.mx.aol.com (rly-mf04.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.174]) by air-mf03.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMF032-95749c15d353e0; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 16:45:02 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf04.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF045-95749c15d353e0; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 16:44:39 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lk2ct-0002gG-5T for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 20:44:35 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lk2cs-0002g6-Pr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 20:44:34 +0000 Received: from blu0-omc4-s6.blu0.hotmail.com ([65.55.111.145]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lk2cq-0001BH-T1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 20:44:34 +0000 Received: from BLU146-W22 ([65.55.111.135]) by blu0-omc4-s6.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 18 Mar 2009 13:44:27 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [196.40.0.241] From: Laurence BY3A-KL1X China To: , , Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 12:44:27 -0800 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Mar 2009 20:44:27.0150 (UTC) FILETIME=[54232AE0:01C9A80A] X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_248c3130-bfc4-4150-837a-fec198354767_" Subject: LF: RE: Ti3 wspr 507.00 tonight and qrss 3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_248c3130-bfc4-4150-837a-fec198354767_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Please make qrss 3 freq 507.500 to 670 - thanks =20 Laurence =20 From: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com To: shmrg@piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu; lowfer@mailman.qth.net; rsgb_lf_group@b= lacksheep.org Subject: Ti3 wspr 507.00 tonight and qrss 3 Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 12:35:13 -0800 =20 Will be "listening" 507 dial wspr and qrss 3 slow 507.000 -507.170 tonight f= rom my dusk till dawn. =20 nominations for modes and freqs near 505 et al for tomorrow welcomed. =20 =20 Laurence ti3/ kl 1 x =20 =20 =20 Windows Live=99 Groups: Create an online spot for your favorite groups to me= et. Check it out. _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live=99 Groups: Create an online spot for your favorite groups to me= et. http://windowslive.com/online/groups?ocid=3DTXT_TAGLM_WL_groups_032009=3D --_248c3130-bfc4-4150-837a-fec198354767_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Please make qrss  3 freq  507.500 to 670 - thanks
 
Laurence
 
From: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com
To: shmrg@piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu;= lowfer@mailman.qth.net; rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Ti3 wspr 5= 07.00 tonight and qrss 3
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 12:35:13 -0800

 
Will be "listening" 507 dial wspr and qrss 3 slow 507.000 -507.170= tonight from my dusk till dawn.
 
nominations for modes and freq= s  near 505 et al for tomorrow welcomed.
 
 
Laurenc= e ti3/ kl 1 x
 
 
 

Windows Live=99 Groups: Create an online spot for your favorite groups to me= et. Check it out.
Windows Live=99 Groups: Create an on= line spot for your favorite groups to meet. Check it=20= out. =3D --_248c3130-bfc4-4150-837a-fec198354767_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (rly-mg03.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.109]) by air-mg03.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG033-a0549c76bd83db; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 07:00:57 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG037-a0549c76bd83db; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 07:00:43 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LlhtT-0005zs-Ds for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 11:00:35 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LlhtT-0005zi-1o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 11:00:35 +0000 Received: from smtp818.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([77.238.189.18]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LlhtP-0003oX-MI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 11:00:34 +0000 Received: (qmail 16693 invoked from network); 23 Mar 2009 11:00:26 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=3YqfxCNbz3OvPGFWkASRUAj+aLQD1rJnh1w3cMkD/4+jfMqPJultxqyqVZzQ8tQdGq6+bmEW644XwBZl2o6vOcgBtWqtjVglq17W57rlj1KXSPlyf9C2HpeAZUE4JT5r7XJC1gGVKslAUCAgBjNExzgtlBKuk3eu230uVzGFM2Q= ; Received: from unknown (HELO Lark) (alan.melia@213.122.9.196 with login) by smtp818.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Mar 2009 11:00:25 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: olK38pIVM1lD8ywP0O2TpPYB3NzivASlTeQDu2AzLp.kiwsAT4N011r7Kseaou0A5PuKe9Ommr48U24RgzNf9029meh3H_X00iPNmJGE6pTPUjELZ6HuOkWk2gy9C7Ly2Wax7VUCVD_RKf3iKi2WXJtLjt2jhp6QSt9kSDf_Btrwcb3V_7Z8Frl65BIVRy9dAiAskNLIyLYEEdHg44m4dh.fExw- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <003901c9aba6$90c4b0a0$0900a8c0@AM> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <5931f8db0903230322l32c6424i6e35d6764448381b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 10:29:37 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Subject: Re: LF: RE: 136kHz activity 21 March [G3MFW] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Harry congratulations on your successes on LF it is great to have someone down in your area....I see you have discovered the real "secret equation".... LF = Lotsa Friends = Lotsa Fun Best Wishes Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harry Woodhouse" To: Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 10:22 AM Subject: Re: LF: RE: 136kHz activity 21 March [G3MFW] Dear Dave & others on LF Group. I have just joined the LF Group - I'm afraid I find the internet rather challenging! I am amazed at the help and friendship I have received. Thank you all for your encouragement. I have learned a lot already from the Group, and will continue to read & learn. I cannot transmit on Sundays - we are involved with our local village church, but I hope to be on again next Saturday morning 28th March. If members have no time for a QSO, your reports are most welcome. Best 73s, Harry G3MFW On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 11:28 PM, wrote: > Thanx Dave,very interresting measures. > > > *F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP > http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/* > > > > Dans un e-mail daté du 22/03/2009 23:08:24 Paris, Madrid, > ganymede444@btopenworld.com a écrit : > > LF, > > Congratulations to Harry G3MFW for putting a very strong signal into > IO91RM. > Screenshot attached. Mike G3XDV also captured on the screenshot. > > Signal strengths measured on my "Tee" antenna with the SPM-30 as follows:- > > G3XDV -42 dBm > G3MFW -61 dBm > F6BWO -70 dBm > F4DTL -73 dBm > Noise floor -80 dBm in 24 Hz bandwidth > > > 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor, SE England > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg05.mx.aol.com (rly-mg05.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.111]) by air-mg09.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMG092-a1649ba3c3b1cd; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 06:58:10 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg05.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG058-a1649ba3c3b1cd; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 06:58:06 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Li555-0001X4-3u for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 10:57:35 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Li554-0001Wv-HM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 10:57:34 +0000 Received: from mail-fx0-f174.google.com ([209.85.220.174]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Li551-0004Zp-KL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 10:57:34 +0000 Received: by fxm22 with SMTP id 22so2627708fxm.4 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 03:57:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=hIEZvTN/PegvPia/mptFY3mhmJtwDF4D+oSFHmgOUnk=; b=uIr4tuSwp3Fy/q8v22qa8RxGrFPZgZOlGThejIGJx1qWNRV3G/YIvLH3kbJS9BQ2Bi IitLd4gUZhYBFsOguUn58T/3H7TKG2nJLwppV4y4ZZ4qSN2rOwgPnRuyXgnqrNGx/L6c 3DedDGn0WfdZ/Keg2VEobmbkpyoe6nVUXWgWg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=ODRR6fYI8mvZp2MBy2aaFTUd/a94/h9eNvhd5+Gn7sLYwyXY7RhMQMplaEXd9rUmn/ Mg+NKpiB4RU3id1cUAmThtsJfaTtkETdESOucQGeHPNYYgDTiqCKy216QKZqYAmPuaRJ dCUujAO2tSUnWeSkVHX8TGDkrw0VkBbMmSgsM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.118.142 with SMTP id v14mr332815bkq.37.1236941843431; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 03:57:23 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 10:57:23 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, uk_beacons@yahoogroups.com X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Multi-function beacon Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d99bef2f80860464fdf70c X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m234.1 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : fail X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --0016e6d99bef2f80860464fdf70c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just a reminder to all - this beacon is still going, and will probably continue to do so until further notice. A few listeners have downloaded the software, and thanks to all (you know who your are :-) for the plots / listings. I am not in a position to compile them, so don't expect revelations, but Gerhard / DK6NI has been monitoring pretty well continuously, and has plotted some deep fades / enhancements measured over hours with depths in the regions of 30dB. Are there any stations in the US in a position to monitor ? Please note that if using the recommended 5meg beacon monitoring software you'll either have to set the delta time to -240 (or -180 or -120) seconds or adjust the PC clock by two, three or four minutes to cope with the four minute offset I'm running it on. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/3/6 Andy Talbot > I've now started transmitting a timed beacon signal on 503.7kHz that > is identical in format to that of GB3SSS operated over the winter months of > the last two years from Poldhu on 1.9 and 3.5MHz, and has a similar signal > structure to the 5MHz beacons, GB3RAL, WES and ORK. These all have an > initial CW ident and stepped power levels for aural reception, and a > precisely defined period of full-power plain carrier for S/N measurements. > See http://www.rsgb-spectrumforum.org.uk/5mhz%20beacons.htm for the > complete 5MHz signal structure. For this MF transmission, as on GB3SSS, > the pulsed sounder sequence of the 5MHz beacons is replaced with a PSK31 > message which lasts from 30s to approx 48 seconds after the start > > Auto Monitoring software writen by G3PLX is available for monitoring > these beacons, it measures signal to noise during the carrier period and > saves to file as well as plotting the last 40 hours worth of measurements. > The software can be downloaded from > http://www.rsgb.org/spectrumforum/hf/beaconauto.php . PSK31 data can be > copied with Digipan, Fldigi, PSK31SBW or a host of other packages. > > *TIMING * > The 503.7kHz transmission takes place every 15 minutes at 4 minutes past > the quarter hour. > ie each transmission starts at *xx:04, xx:19, xx:34 and xx:49 * This > time slot has been selected so that the transmission do not interfere with > my continuous ongoing reception of the 5Mhz beacons - the active antenna > used for these is overloaded by the 500kHz signal and I have already lost > data when the WSPR beacon transmission coincided with one of the monitoring > windows. > > NOTE If using the G3PLX software, this only monitors for the three 5MHz > beacons at 00, 01 and 02 minutes. > *SO IT WILL BE NECESSARY TO FRIG THE SOFTWARE * to monitor > this transmission at the 04 minute point. The necessary alteration can be > done by firstly setting your PC clock accurately to the correct time, then > setting the Track Time box to -240 (minus 240 seconds). This will make the > software look for this transmission during the time window it thinks it > would be receiving GB3RAL, and log the MF transmission during the first > minute, on the red trace, as if it were GB3RAL > > The beacon uses the identical hardware to the WSPR transmissions of the > last few weeks, with the the only change being a reprogramming of the > controller PIC. In fact the very same hardware was previously loaned to > the Poldhu club for their beacons, with the only difference being a change > to the final Low Pass filter on the output of the broadband PA. > > > > --0016e6d99bef2f80860464fdf70c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Just a reminder to all - this beacon is still going, and will probably=20= continue to do so until further notice.=A0=A0 A few listeners have downloade= d the software, and thanks to all (you know who your are :-) for the plots /= listings.=A0=A0 I am not in a position to compile them, so don't expect= revelations, but Gerhard=A0 /=A0 DK6NI has been monitoring pretty well=A0co= ntinuously, and has plotted some=A0deep fades / enhancements measured over h= ours with depths in the regions of 30dB.
=A0
Are there any stations in the US in a position to monitor ?=A0=A0
=A0
Please note that if using the recommended 5meg beacon monitoring softwa= re you'll either have to set the delta time to -240 (or -180 or -120) se= conds or adjust the PC clock by two, three or four minutes to cope with the=20= four minute offset I'm running it on.
=A0
Andy =A0G4JNT
2009/3/6 Andy Talbot <andy.g4jnt@googlema= il.com>
I've now=A0started transmitting a timed=A0 beacon signal on 503.7kH= z that is=A0identical in format to that of GB3SSS operated over the winter m= onths of the last two years=A0=A0from Poldhu on 1.9 and 3.5MHz, =A0and has= =A0a similar signal structure to the 5MHz beacons, GB3RAL, WES and ORK.=A0 T= hese all have=A0an initial CW ident and=A0stepped power levels for aural rec= eption,=A0and a precisely defined period of full-power plain carrier for S/N= measurements.=A0=A0
See=A0 =A0http://www.rsgb-spectrumforum.org.uk/5mhz%20beacons= .htm=A0 for the complete 5MHz =A0signal structure.=A0=A0For this MF tran= smission, as on GB3SSS, the pulsed sounder sequence of the 5MHz beacons is r= eplaced with a PSK31 message which lasts from=A030s to approx 48 seconds aft= er the start
=A0
Auto Monitoring software writen by G3PLX is available for monitoring th= ese beacons, it measures signal to noise during the carrier period and saves= to file as well as plotting the last 40 hours worth of measurements.
The software can be downloaded from=A0 http://www.rsgb.org/spectr= umforum/hf/beaconauto.php=A0.=A0=A0 PSK31 data can be copied with Digipa= n, Fldigi, PSK31SBW or a host of other packages.
=A0
TIMING
The 503.7kHz transmission takes place every 15 minutes at 4 minutes pas= t the quarter hour.=A0
ie=A0each transmission starts at xx:04, xx:19, xx:34 and xx:49= =A0=A0=A0=A0This time slot has been selected so that the transmissi= on do not interfere with my continuous ongoing reception of the 5Mhz beacons= - the active antenna used for these is overloaded by the 500kHz signal and=20= I have already lost data when the WSPR beacon transmission coincided with on= e of the monitoring windows.
=A0
NOTE=A0=A0 If using the=A0G3PLX software, this only=A0monitors for the=20= three 5MHz beacons at =A000, 01 and 02 minutes.
SO IT WILL BE NECESSARY=A0TO FRIG=A0THE SOFTWARE =A0to= monitor this=A0transmission at the 04 minute point.=A0=A0=A0The necessary a= lteration can be done by firstly setting=A0your PC clock accurately to the c= orrect time, then setting the Track Time box to -240 (minus 240 seconds)..= =A0 This will make the software look for this transmission during the time= =A0window it thinks it would be receiving GB3RAL, and log the=A0MF transmiss= ion during the first minute, on the red trace, as if it were GB3RAL=A0
=A0
The beacon uses the identical hardware to the=A0WSPR transmissions of= =A0the last few weeks, with the the only change being a=A0reprogramming of t= he controller PIC.=A0=A0 In fact the very same hardware was previously loane= d to the Poldhu club for their beacons, with the only difference being a cha= nge to the final Low Pass filter on the output of the broadband PA.
=A0

--0016e6d99bef2f80860464fdf70c-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de03.mx.aol.com (rly-de03.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.139]) by air-de06.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDE062-4c349b93b762ad; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 12:43:17 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de03.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE034-4c349b93b762ad; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 12:42:36 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LhnyZ-0004R5-48 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 16:41:43 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LhnyY-0004Qw-QR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 16:41:42 +0000 Received: from cpsmtpm-eml103.kpnxchange.com ([195.121.3.7]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LhnyW-0008Md-3s for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 16:41:42 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 ([81.204.139.159]) by CPSMTPM-EML103.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.0.6001.18000); Thu, 12 Mar 2009 17:41:35 +0100 Message-ID: From: "henny van elst" To: "blacksheep" Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 17:41:13 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Mar 2009 16:41:35.0779 (UTC) FILETIME=[6871E730:01C9A331] X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 184khz Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01C9A339.BCBDF9C0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.7 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_70_80, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C9A339.BCBDF9C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Joe,LF nothing on the screen Joe, Henny pa3cpm 73s ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C9A339.BCBDF9C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Joe,LF
nothing on the screen Joe,
Henny pa3cpm
73s
------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C9A339.BCBDF9C0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf10.mx.aol.com (rly-mf10.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.180]) by air-mf10.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMF102-98749c3c9bf110; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 12:52:35 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf10.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF105-98749c3c9bf110; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 12:52:18 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lkhwd-00061I-9l for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 16:51:43 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lkhwc-000619-UV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 16:51:42 +0000 Received: from mail-qy0-f107.google.com ([209.85.221.107]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lkhwa-00079V-Ia for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 16:51:42 +0000 Received: by qyk5 with SMTP id 5so1417903qyk.30 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 09:51:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=YvXtZo0xLYU0pfigKK7/PHd7+BbP8FJa0+TSG4Vp/Is=; b=BNirx1goG/o0czmsdW1oqaqjuO6YEZQ01DI1PFJSJyl687rnvu0xIbarX9gtWwZkoy 3tFMR+VN00t2JTvLi/Tk6BrHLqWCup98uGQamLMLEYoXPsmDT264hVIDxj2rWpWESTIU 0wEu5dQD0BVG2hd5E6W4bJG6dIij5bmi4sLVg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=vLeuWTbXjWUd39I1CfQFKdm7WtxyRDJD7K4p4gqkaWoxRxWTV7p/mAhdJxqa58Lk9r pM3JwJcp8LTKad0HdfiDEF5sA4TO229/i3jwiT3EUaeJaFy9pe8IP+Bettne42HVC3/l p+AKqGdYaSHfJooUEH8l0MtlGNEDDgb5v4hDo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.11.136 with SMTP id t8mr5452055qat.33.1237567894255; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 09:51:34 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 11:51:34 -0500 Message-ID: <57a24ca70903200951x42ca0ee9rac2f6e87b975896c@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Ropex Info? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d245.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : fail X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello the list, I have just acquired a Ropex "The First" transmitter for 136kHz - but without documentation of any kind. I know that Ropex did not supply anything more than a single sheet of instructions but I'm lacking even that. Questions: 1) Anyone have a copy of the instruction sheet that they could copy or scan? 2) Any info on mods (injecting an external vfo for example)? 3) Anybody do any 'reverse engineering' of the circuit? Any info at all is much appreciated! -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md05.mx.aol.com (rly-md05.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.143]) by air-md10.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD104-90849cacd9c1f3; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 20:34:48 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md05.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD058-90849cacd9c1f3; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 20:34:38 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LmdXn-00044J-FW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 00:34:03 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LmdXn-00044A-31 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 00:34:03 +0000 Received: from [193.252.22.192] (helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LmdXj-0008UP-44 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 00:34:03 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3626.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 5BB687000085 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 01:33:43 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.50.116]) by mwinf3626.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 20E497000083 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 01:33:43 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20090326003343134.20E497000083@mwinf3626.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <176DEB86C8544FA1AEC66530436203C2@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <86B4F549F8F247DDA470143B3BE77364@Hugh> <008c01c9ad63$4e9a9190$6401a8c0@asus> In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 00:33:42 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8064.206 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8064.206 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: Re: LF: WSPR Beacon 502.4 KHz Take 2 ON OVER NIGHT Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=LINES_OF_YELLING, LINES_OF_YELLING_2,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME,UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 BEACON - ON OVERNIGHT QRT - EXPECTED 0800 (UNLESS TRIPED .. THEN 14 DB LOWER) -------------------------------------------------- From: "Graham" Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 6:02 PM To: Subject: LF: WSPR Beacon 502.4 KHz Take 2 > > Making hay while the sun (doesn't shine) ...take 2 > > Due to problems tx and rx .! > > Running WSPR Beacon as of 1800 GMT > > G0NBD 502.4 DIAL NOW TILL LATER POSS OVER NIGHT > (will confirm near 2400) > > > Tnx- G .. > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.283 / Virus Database: 270.11.27/2021 - Release Date: 03/24/09 > 16:00:00 > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da08.mx.aol.com (rly-da08.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.82]) by air-da06.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDA063-a8749bdf35e365; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 02:36:33 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da08.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA087-a8749bdf35e365; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 02:36:18 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lj6Q9-0002b2-QP for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 06:35:33 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lj6Q9-0002at-6V for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 06:35:33 +0000 Received: from smtp109.prem.mail.sp1.yahoo.com ([98.136.44.54]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lj6Q8-0006W5-J7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 06:35:33 +0000 Received: (qmail 84825 invoked from network); 16 Mar 2009 06:35:25 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=DwGIrlldhSxpNwbznJjyaGEKEv4lEZ8r0FbZTnr/30YzcSWFd2dMaqoDN4BccKlF7C2tmbyQqg1zeq4mfL7zWpMeHijCs44wwuVUG8HunkYoMYB8KePRdEeEUVXXvtwO/BGKeDarq+9rArbCDeL+wD9HuSfthiRf0QfHEbMabGs= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.100?) (we0h@75.168.139.227 with plain) by smtp109.prem.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Mar 2009 06:35:25 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: jA5TLwQVM1m8KZFS1wOwicpSa_EHZJWKVoFRb8Rn7vXi9HUU8YYC25.wtLwrxuK4bjNzIcUrZ_M0UYD5tIUWGyo3M8smkbqnzinZcg335wVFMhBa57nnj9c.HETI80M2SpLA3ZS.GxzImapXpvWCqIikoFFDr9yRA91yCd4OuISTBlu7bH8KZZynS_XvvhtIx_5T6mzvqViEA8LguvgXNiWC34sWcahGYAboR9Sw_J_Fd2cjpvacPjjxmHH4qCNzygnSaiFmZqKNiu4dbf9Ul75TLsr9 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <49BDF319.6080900@yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 01:35:05 -0500 From: Mike-WE0H User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <200903141634.37933.ve8rt@xplornet.com> In-Reply-To: <200903141634.37933.ve8rt@xplornet.com> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Re: LF: Getting started, maybe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Ron, I built a pair of these loops for receiving. They work excellent. http://www.we0h.us/505kc/Simple-RX-Loop-Antenna/ Let me know if you want to try and listen for my signal. I can put a beacon on the air anytime. CW or PSK-31 Mike WE0H WD2XSH/16 Ron T wrote: > I've been reading the occasional posting to the list, wondering if I could > find some time and money to work with. As we do not yet have licences for > the 500KHz band, the best place to start would be setting up for receiving. > > From my location is it likely that I could receive any amateur stations on > 600 metres? Any recommendations for a relatively compact antenna? I do have > a reasonably good receiver that covers the band, a Ten Tec SP-325 (crystal > oven oscillators). > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc04.mx.aol.com (rly-dc04.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.33]) by air-dc10.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDC104-b1749bd7e8e21c; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 18:18:01 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc04.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC043-b1749bd7e8e21c; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 18:17:52 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Liydy-0000dD-7n for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 22:17:18 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Liydx-0000d4-CU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 22:17:17 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.151] helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Liyds-000697-KM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 22:17:17 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3524.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id F17811C00086 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 23:17:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.110.65.135]) by mwinf3524.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 472F01C00085 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 23:17:06 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20090315221706291.472F01C00085@mwinf3524.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <826BA6086575402A8C87062492069F5A@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <009001c9a588$7eb02c60$6401a8c0@asus> <00e001c9a5a7$f07216a0$6401a8c0@asus> In-Reply-To: <00e001c9a5a7$f07216a0$6401a8c0@asus> Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 22:17:04 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8064.206 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8064.206 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,EXTRA_MPART_TYPE=0.815,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software Content-Type: multipart/related; type="multipart/alternative"; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00D0_01C9A5BB.C5BFF990" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_00D0_01C9A5BB.C5BFF990 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_00D1_01C9A5BB.C5BFF990" ------=_NextPart_001_00D1_01C9A5BB.C5BFF990 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Gary.. That looks good ... 0500 looks best time for a qso .. see you then =20 >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute interval= s. <<< that could be backed off to 15 mins as the beacon only sends every=20= 15 ??=20 the 15 db over the noise in day time is the same at this qth .. looks like= the big dips round 1900 where just when we where testing .. typical hihi tnx- G ..=20 From: Gary - G4WGT=20 Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 7:55 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: LF: RE: Syncback software LF, =20 I have now got the software, Syncback running correctly (I think). =20 The purpose of this is to upload the chart from Andy's beacon as received he= re to my web site periodically, ie. every 30 minutes. =20 I now have a receiver running 24/7 monitoring Andy,s beacon on 503.7KHz. =20 You can view the chart on my web site at :- =20 http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html =20 For the moment ignore the text on the page as it is originally designed to u= se with the 500KHz grabber when I renew my web site design. If it is a usefu= l upload I will make it a permanent feature but may have to extend the frequ= ency coverage of grabber 1 so not to overload the PC with operations which w= ill cause the PC to struggle. =20 Let me have your comments please. =20 73 =20 Gary - G4WGT. =20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksh= eep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT Sent: 15 March 2009 16:10 To: LF -RSGB LF Group Subject: LF: Syncback software =20 Hi LF, =20 If anyone is using Syncback software & can help, please. =20 I am tying to upload a file to my website who's filename does not change, on= ly the file size changes. I tried to do it with Argo-upload but failed so I=20= downloaded Syncback & still failing. =20 Syncback gives me the following message :- =20 ********************************** Can connect, but unable to change to destination directory: /chart01.bmp:not a directory ********************************** The Syncback help does not give me the answer. =20 Any help will be appreciated =20 Or =20 Will Argo-Upload do it? =20 Or =20 Is there something else to do it? =20 Thanks in anticipation, =20 73, =20 Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. =20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.13/2001 - Release Date: 03/14/09 0= 6:54:00 ------=_NextPart_001_00D1_01C9A5BB.C5BFF990 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Gary..
 
That looks good  ... 0500 looks best t= ime for=20 a qso .. see you then 3D"Smile 
 
&g= t;>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2=20 minute intervals. <<< that could be backed off to  15 mins as=20= the=20 beacon only  sends every 15 ??
 
the&= nbsp; 15=20 db over the noise in day time is the  same at this qth .. looks like th= e=20 big dips round 1900  where just when we where testing ..  typical=20 hihi
 
tnx-= G ..=20

Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 7:55 PM
Subject: LF: RE: Syncback software

L= F,

<= o:p> 

I= =20 have now got the software, Syncback running correctly (I=20 think).

<= o:p> 

T= he=20 purpose of this is to upload the chart from Andy=92s beacon as received here= to my=20 web site periodically, ie. every 30 minutes.

<= o:p> 

I= =20 now have a receiver running 24/7 monitoring Andy,s beacon on=20 503.7KHz.

<= o:p> 

Y= ou=20 can view the chart on my web site at :-

<= o:p> 

<= A href=3D"http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html">http://myweb.= tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html

<= o:p> 

F= or=20 the moment ignore the text on the page as it is originally designed to use w= ith=20 the 500KHz grabber when I renew my web site design. If it is a useful upload= I=20 will make it a permanent feature but may have to extend the frequency covera= ge=20 of grabber 1 so not to overload the PC with operations which will cause the=20= PC=20 to struggle.

<= o:p> 

L= et=20 me have your comments please.

<= o:p> 

7= 3

<= o:p> 

G= ary=20 =96 G4WGT.

<= o:p> 

From:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g]=20 On Behalf Of Gary -=20 G4WGT
Sent: 15 March 2009= =20 16:10
To: LF -RSGB LF Group
Subject: LF: Syncback=20 software

 

Hi=20 LF,

 

If anyone is=20 using Syncback software & can help, please.=

 

I am tying to=20 upload a file to my website who=92s filename does not change, only the file=20= size=20 changes. I tried to do it with Argo-upload but failed so I downloaded Syncba= ck=20 & still failing.

 

Syncback gives me=20 the following message :-

 

***************************= *******

Can connect, but=20 unable to change to destination directory:

/chart01.bmp:not=20 a directory

***************************= *******

The Syncback help=20 does not give me the answer.

 

Any help will be=20 appreciated

 

Or=

 

Will Argo-Upload=20 do it?

 

Or=

 

Is there=20 something else to do it?

 

Thanks in=20 anticipation,

 

73,=

 

Gary - G4WGT -=20 IO83QP.

 


No virus found in this incoming message.
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There is no need to generate the full beacon sequence, just a precisely time 5 second transmission every 15 minutes. All the monitoring software does is look at the carrier S/N during the precise interval of 25 to 30 seconds. So, if someone could come up with a Tx that transmits precisely for 5 second intervals at xx:05:25 , xx:20:25, xx:35:20 and xx:50:35:25 where xx: is the hour it will show up as the gree trace on Gary's plot. Similarly, at xx:06:25 etc it will appear as the blue trace. Try it manually to see :-) Timing is extremally important though. Accurcy needs to be within 0.5 seconds for the monitoring S/W to make an accurate level recording, which makes GPS or network based controlled timing almost mandatory. I've switched off at the moment as mentioned earlier, but should be able to activate again by about 18:30. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/3/16 Gary - G4WGT > *Hi Graham, LF,* > > * * > > *You wrote :-* > > *>>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute > intervals. <<< that could be backed off to 15 mins as the beacon only > sends every 15 ?? *** > > * * > > *I mentioned in my previous mail to ignore the text on the page as it was > originally for grabber 1 for when I upgrade the web site (to a new design=20= & > better navigation etc), also mentioned is that upload is every 30 minutes.= . > * > > * * > > *If the uploaded chart proves useful or interesting to operators & viewers > then I will change the text & make it a permanent feature for the > foreseeable future.* > > * * > > *BTW :-* > > * * > > *For those of you who are not familiar with the chart =96 * > > * * > > *The RED trace is Andy=92s (G4JNT) beacon signal & the BLACK trace is the > noise level at my QTH.* > > * * > > *The Blue & GREEN are not in use & should be ignored on this chart as they > are for the other beacons used when monitoring on the 5MHz allocation.* > > * * > > *Cheers,* > > * * > > *Gary =96 G4WGT* > > * * > > * * > ------------------------------ > > *From:* owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto: > owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] *On Behalf Of *Graham > *Sent:* 15 March 2009 22:17 > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > *Subject:* Re: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > Gary.. > > > > That looks good ... 0500 looks best time for a qso .. see you then [image= : > Smile emoticon] > > > > *>>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute > intervals. <<< that could be backed off to 15 mins as the beacon only > sends every 15 ?? * > > > > *the 15 db over the noise in day time is the same at this qth .. looks > like the big dips round 1900 where just when we where testing .. typical > hihi* > > > > *tnx- G .. * > > > > *From:* Gary - G4WGT > > *Sent:* Sunday, March 15, 2009 7:55 PM > > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > *Subject:* LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > *LF,* > > * * > > *I have now got the software, Syncback running correctly (I think).* > > * * > > *The purpose of this is to upload the chart from Andy=92s beacon as receiv= ed > here to my web site periodically, ie. every 30 minutes.* > > * * > > *I now have a receiver running 24/7 monitoring Andy,s beacon on 503.7KHz.* > > * * > > *You can view the chart on my web site at :-* > > * * > > *http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html* > > * * > > *For the moment ignore the text on the page as it is originally designed > to use with the 500KHz grabber when I renew my web site design. If it is a > useful upload I will make it a permanent feature but may have to extend th= e > frequency coverage of grabber 1 so not to overload the PC with operations > which will cause the PC to struggle.* > > * * > > *Let me have your comments please.* > > * * > > *73* > > * * > > *Gary =96 G4WGT.* > > * * > ------------------------------ > > *From:* owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto: > owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] *On Behalf Of *Gary - G4WGT > *Sent:* 15 March 2009 16:10 > *To:* LF -RSGB LF Group > *Subject:* LF: Syncback software > > > > *Hi LF,* > > * * > > *If anyone is using Syncback software & can help, please.* > > * * > > *I am tying to upload a file to my website who=92s filename does not chang= e, > only the file size changes. I tried to do it with Argo-upload but failed s= o > I downloaded Syncback & still failing.* > > * * > > *Syncback gives me the following message :-* > > * * > > ************************************ > > *Can connect, but unable to change to destination directory:* > > */chart01.bmp:not a directory* > > ************************************ > > *The Syncback help does not give me the answer.* > > * * > > *Any help will be appreciated* > > * * > > *Or* > > * * > > *Will Argo-Upload do it?* > > * * > > *Or* > > * * > > *Is there something else to do it?* > > * * > > *Thanks in anticipation,* > > * * > > *73,* > > > > *Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.* > > > ------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.13/2001 - Release Date: 03/14/09 > 06:54:00 > --001636c5bcc5465dfe04653a9ad1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Those two time slots of 15 minute interval plus 5 and 6=A0that generate= the green and blue traces=A0could be used by others.=A0 There is no need to= generate the full beacon sequence, just a precisely time 5 second transmiss= ion every 15 minutes.=A0 All the monitoring software does is look at the car= rier S/N during the precise interval of 25 to 30 seconds.
=A0
So, if someone could come up with a Tx that transmits precisely for 5 s= econd intervals at=A0xx:05:25 , xx:20:25, =A0xx:35:20 and=A0 xx:50:35:25=A0= =A0 where xx: is the hour it will show up as the gree trace on Gary's pl= ot.=A0=A0 Similarly, at xx:06:25 etc it will appear as the blue trace.=A0
Try it manually to see :-)
=A0
Timing is extremally important though.=A0=A0 Accurcy needs to be within= 0.5 seconds for the monitoring S/W to make an accurate level recording, whi= ch makes GPS or network based controlled timing almost mandatory.
=A0
I've switched off at the moment as mentioned earlier, but should be= able to activate again by about 18:30.=A0

Andy =A0G4JNT
www= .g4jnt.com


2009/3/16 Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>

Hi Graham, LF,<= /span>

=A0

You wrote :-

>&= gt;>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute inte= rvals. <<< that could be backed off to=A0 15 mins as the beacon onl= y=A0 sends every 15 ??

=A0

I mentioned in=20= my previous mail to ignore the text on the page as it was originally for gra= bber 1 for when I upgrade the web site (to a new design & better navigat= ion etc), also mentioned is that upload is every 30 minutes.

=A0

If the uploaded= chart proves useful or interesting to operators & viewers then I will c= hange the text & make it a permanent feature for the foreseeable future.=

=A0

BTW :-

=A0

For those of yo= u=A0 who are not familiar with the chart =96

=A0

The RED trace i= s Andy=92s (G4JNT) beacon signal & the BLACK trace is the noise level at= my QTH.

=A0

The Blue &=20= GREEN are not in use & should be ignored on this chart as they are for t= he other beacons used when monitoring on the 5MHz allocation.<= /b>

=A0

Cheers,<= /font>

=A0

Gary =96 G4WGT<= /span>

=A0

=A0

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_= lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf=20= Of Graham
Sent: 15 March 2009 22:17=20


To: rsgb_lf_grou= p@blacksheep.org
Subject:<= /span> Re: LF: RE: Syncback software<= /span>=20

=A0

Gary..

=A0

That looks good=A0 ... 0500 looks best time for a qso .. see you=20= then 3D"Smile=A0

=A0

>>>Upload is set=20= at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute intervals. <<< t= hat could be backed off to=A0 15 mins as the beacon only=A0 sends every 15 ?= ?

=A0

the=A0 15 db over the nois= e in day time is the=A0 same at this qth .. looks like the big dips round 19= 00=A0 where just when we where testing ..=A0 typical hihi<= /strong>

=A0

tnx- G ..

=A0

Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 7:55 PM

Subject:= LF: RE: Syncback software

=A0

LF,

=A0

I have now got=20= the software, Syncback running correctly (I think).

=A0

The purpose of=20= this is to upload the chart from Andy=92s beacon as received here to my web=20= site periodically, ie. every 30 minutes.

=A0

I now have a re= ceiver running 24/7 monitoring Andy,s beacon on 503.7KHz.<= /p>

=A0

You can view th= e chart on my web site at :-

=A0

http://mywe= b.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html

=A0

For the moment=20= ignore the text on the page as it is originally designed to use with the 500= KHz grabber when I renew my web site design. If it is a useful upload I will= make it a permanent feature but may have to extend the frequency coverage o= f grabber 1 so not to overload the PC with operations which will cause the P= C to struggle.

=A0

Let me have you= r comments please.

=A0

73

=A0

Gary =96 G4WGT.=

=A0

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_= lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf=20= Of Gary - G4WGT
Sent: 15 March 2009 16:10To: LF -RSGB LF Group
Subject: LF: Syncback software=

=A0

Hi LF,

=A0

If anyone is using Syncback software &=20= can help, please.

=A0

I am tying to upload a file to my website w= ho=92s filename does not change, only the file size changes. I tried to do i= t with Argo-upload but failed so I downloaded Syncback & still failing.<= /span>

=A0

Syncback gives me the following message :-<= /span>

=A0

**********************************

Can connect, but unable to change to destin= ation directory:

/chart01.bmp:not a directory<= /b>

**********************************

The Syncback help does not give me the answ= er.

=A0

Any help will be appreciated<= /b>

=A0

Or

=A0

Will Argo-Upload do it?

=A0

Or

=A0

Is there something else to do it?

=A0

Thanks in anticipation,

=A0

73,

=A0

Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.

=A0


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(VPS 090216-1, 02/16/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Z-USANET-MsgId: XID920NcHRGn8672X36 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: energy saving bulbs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Alan Melia wrote: > They take several 10s of seconds to reach usable brightness....longer than > tuble starters. No good for short spells of activity as they are only > becomming usable when they are switched off. Hmmm, maybe this was true until the very last generation of energy-saving bulbs. I bought a couple of weeks ago a bulb, rated for 85W electrical consumption, and a light emission comparable (they say on the cardbox) to a normal lamp of 400W, to give light to my shack, and it comes up instantly at full light. I don't know how long it will last, it is made in China, and probably it will fail in two or three months, but I paid 8 Euro for it, so it will not be a great loss. But the bulb it replaced (an old one, that took 5 minutes to reach full luminosity) did last for three years... and it still worked, I just wanted a bit more light. BTW, I haven't noticed any increase in the RF noise, neither on VLF, nor on HF. But probably having the antennas 25 meters away from the shack, with good coax cables, helps... 73 Alberto I2PHD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me07.mx.aol.com (rly-me07.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.41]) by air-me04.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINME043-9c549c1770529a; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 18:35:15 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me07.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME071-9c549c1770529a; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 18:34:47 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lk4L5-0004qk-Hl for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 22:34:19 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lk4L5-0004qb-5c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 22:34:19 +0000 Received: from [193.252.22.190] (helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lk4L2-0001s4-NC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 22:34:19 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3604.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id ED3B47000085; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 23:34:00 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.14.71]) by mwinf3604.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 92E627000084; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 23:34:00 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20090318223400601.92E627000084@mwinf3604.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: Cc: References: <73A0D1BFA1F64CD4B5917B0EC67BF55B@ns94d01ae4d850> In-Reply-To: <73A0D1BFA1F64CD4B5917B0EC67BF55B@ns94d01ae4d850> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 22:33:59 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8064.206 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8064.206 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 4000 Miles DX QSL for G4JNT Beacon from KU4XR Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01AB_01C9A819.A1E0C1C0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_01AB_01C9A819.A1E0C1C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've just received this plot from Andy KU4XR , showing at least 5 detections= =20 at a range of 4000 miles ! To night Andy is set up to capture the psk id .... =20 http://uk500khz.googlegroups.com/web/G4JNT%203-17-09.png Quite an outstanding feat from each end of the path ! More to follow , may be ... ! G ..=20 ------=_NextPart_000_01AB_01C9A819.A1E0C1C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I've just received this plot from Andy KU4X= R ,=20 showing at least 5 detections 
at a range of 4000 miles !
 
To night Andy is set up to  = capture=20 the  psk  id ....  
 
 
Quite an outstanding feat from each end of=20= the path=20 !
 
More to  follow , may be ... !<= /DIV>
 
G ..
 
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_01AB_01C9A819.A1E0C1C0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (rly-dd02.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.149]) by air-dd07.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDD072-b6549bbb8321fc; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 09:59:22 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD027-b6549bbb8321fc; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 09:59:17 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LiUOC-0000xW-Pa for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 13:59:00 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LiUOB-0000xN-Rg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 13:58:59 +0000 Received: from [193.252.22.191] (helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LiUO9-0005uZ-3e for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 13:58:59 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3619.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 69BD57000084 for ; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 14:58:49 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.110.71.35]) by mwinf3619.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id B20F77000082 for ; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 14:58:48 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20090314135848729.B20F77000082@mwinf3619.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: References: <5467B2F044F54A7980C65F62409256D3@AGB> In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 13:58:47 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8064.206 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8064.206 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: Multi-function beacon Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_008D_01C9A4AC.FF45BB60" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_008D_01C9A4AC.FF45BB60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ok Andy , I have multi traces due to local noise/carriers floating about and coincid= ing with the measuring windows...=20 Noticed a couple of things so far , Gary and my plots show a dip in signal=20= 18:00 to 20:00 .. what happens round then ? and round 07:00 a single sha= rp dip.. ? Gerhards plot looks to show the 'pre dawn' lift that I have never see befor= e .. it was mentioned in a talk on MW dx at one of the HFC a while ago=20 Tnx, G ..=20 From: Andy Talbot=20 Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 1:36 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: Multi-function beacon That listing was 5.29MHz to prove the S/W - it shows the power and tone freq= uencies of all three - RAL/WES/ORK on the TA path. Don't forget to offset the time :-) Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/3/14 Graham Dave, >>> Sample of 5290kc. over last night.<<< Is this from 5290 or 503.7 ....... ?? Graham ..=20 From: dave.riley3=20 Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 12:08 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Cc: 600MRG=20 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Multi-function beacon Andy, beacons, Looks like the beacon program is up and running correctly as 5 mhz shows r= elative sigs and frequency counts. Last night conditions here were very poor for T/A on 600m, even with this=20= broad high pressure area that helped keep the noise down. Even DI2AM was ver= y weak and SM6BHZ did not decode. So I will run it again on you tonight, but I did see remnanats of what loo= ks like a letter K during the beacon transmission times from you ( in ARGO Q= RSS3 )... Sample of 5290kc. over last night. 2009 03 14 03 00 47.51 39.97 36.06 23.91 0.00 1495.70 1494.14 0.00 2009 03 14 03 15 34.12 37.03 31.32 23.36 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 14 03 30 33.87 30.14 35.05 29.91 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 14 03 45 30.91 26.89 26.38 23.12 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 14 04 00 32.25 44.39 25.68 24.24 0.00 0.00 1494.14 0.00 2009 03 14 04 15 40.13 39.54 35.79 24.24 0.00 1495.51 1494.14 0.00 2009 03 14 04 30 44.71 42.47 29.35 30.72 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 14 04 45 33.16 37.11 35.32 23.03 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 14 05 00 48.07 46.44 34.46 25.30 0.00 1495.90 1494.14 0.00 2009 03 14 05 15 43.12 47.39 30.40 23.83 0.00 1495.70 1494.14 0.00 2009 03 14 05 30 48.13 31.83 37.48 26.50 0.00 1495.70 0.00 0.00 2009 03 14 05 45 47.11 42.90 37.04 22.88 0.00 1495.90 1494.34 0.00 2009 03 14 06 00 28.69 30.99 30.46 23.66 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 14 06 15 41.04 31.09 29.58 23.29 0.00 1495.90 0.00 0.00 The 'red' station usually seems the strongest on the graph... TNX Dave @ /17 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Andy Talbot=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org ; uk_beacons@yahoogroups.com=20 Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 5:57 AM Subject: LF: Re: Multi-function beacon Just a reminder to all - this beacon is still going, and will probably c= ontinue to do so until further notice. A few listeners have downloaded the= software, and thanks to all (you know who your are :-) for the plots / list= ings. I am not in a position to compile them, so don't expect revelations,= but Gerhard / DK6NI has been monitoring pretty well continuously, and has= plotted some deep fades / enhancements measured over hours with depths in t= he regions of 30dB. Are there any stations in the US in a position to monitor ? =20 Please note that if using the recommended 5meg beacon monitoring softwar= e you'll either have to set the delta time to -240 (or -180 or -120) seconds= or adjust the PC clock by two, three or four minutes to cope with the four=20= minute offset I'm running it on. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com =20 2009/3/6 Andy Talbot I've now started transmitting a timed beacon signal on 503.7kHz that=20= is identical in format to that of GB3SSS operated over the winter months of=20= the last two years from Poldhu on 1.9 and 3.5MHz, and has a similar signal= structure to the 5MHz beacons, GB3RAL, WES and ORK. These all have an init= ial CW ident and stepped power levels for aural reception, and a precisely d= efined period of full-power plain carrier for S/N measurements. =20 See http://www.rsgb-spectrumforum.org.uk/5mhz%20beacons.htm for the= complete 5MHz signal structure. For this MF transmission, as on GB3SSS, t= he pulsed sounder sequence of the 5MHz beacons is replaced with a PSK31 mess= age which lasts from 30s to approx 48 seconds after the start Auto Monitoring software writen by G3PLX is available for monitoring t= hese beacons, it measures signal to noise during the carrier period and save= s to file as well as plotting the last 40 hours worth of measurements. The software can be downloaded from http://www.rsgb.org/spectrumforum= /hf/beaconauto.php . PSK31 data can be copied with Digipan, Fldigi, PSK31S= BW or a host of other packages. TIMING=20 The 503.7kHz transmission takes place every 15 minutes at 4 minutes pa= st the quarter hour. =20 ie each transmission starts at xx:04, xx:19, xx:34 and xx:49 This t= ime slot has been selected so that the transmission do not interfere with my= continuous ongoing reception of the 5Mhz beacons - the active antenna used=20= for these is overloaded by the 500kHz signal and I have already lost data wh= en the WSPR beacon transmission coincided with one of the monitoring windows= . NOTE If using the G3PLX software, this only monitors for the three 5= MHz beacons at 00, 01 and 02 minutes. SO IT WILL BE NECESSARY TO FRIG THE SOFTWARE to monitor this transmis= sion at the 04 minute point. The necessary alteration can be done by first= ly setting your PC clock accurately to the correct time, then setting the Tr= ack Time box to -240 (minus 240 seconds). This will make the software look=20= for this transmission during the time window it thinks it would be receiving= GB3RAL, and log the MF transmission during the first minute, on the red tra= ce, as if it were GB3RAL=20 The beacon uses the identical hardware to the WSPR transmissions of th= e last few weeks, with the the only change being a reprogramming of the cont= roller PIC. In fact the very same hardware was previously loaned to the Po= ldhu club for their beacons, with the only difference being a change to the=20= final Low Pass filter on the output of the broadband PA. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.13/2001 - Release Date: 03/13/09= 05:59:00 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- No virus found in this incoming message. 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Ok Andy ,
 
I have multi traces due to  local=20 noise/carriers floating about and  coinciding with the measuring window= s...=20
 
Noticed a couple of things so  far , G= ary and=20 my plots show a dip in signal 18:00  to  20:00 .. what happen= s=20 round then ?  and round  07:00 a single sharp dip.. ?
 
Gerhards plot looks to  show the 'pre=20= dawn'=20 lift that I have never see before .. it was mentioned in a talk on MW dx at=20= one=20 of the HFC a while ago
 
Tnx, G ..
 
 

Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 1:36 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: Multi-function beacon

That listing was 5.29MHz to prove the S/W - it shows the power and tone= =20 frequencies of all three - RAL/WES/ORK on the TA path.
 
Don't forget to offset the time :-)

Andy  G4JNT
= www.g4jnt.com


2009/3/14 Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
Dave, >>> Sample of 5290kc. over last=20 night.<<<
 
Is this  from 5290  or  503.7 .= ......=20 ??
 
Graham ..
 
 

Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 12:08 PM
Cc: 600MRG
Subject: LF: Re: Re: Multi-function beacon

Andy, beacons,
 
Looks like the beacon program is up and runnin= g=20 correctly as 5 mhz shows relative sigs and frequency=20 counts.
 
Last night conditions here were very poor for=20= T/A on=20 600m, even with this broad high pressure area that helped keep the noise d= own.=20 Even DI2AM was very weak and SM6BHZ did not decode.
 
So I will run it again on you tonight, but I d= id see=20 remnanats of what looks like a letter K during the beacon transmission tim= es=20 from you ( in ARGO QRSS3 )...
 
 
Sample of 5290kc. over last=20 night.
 
2009 03 14 03 00 47.51 39.97 36.06 23.91 0.00=20 1495.70 1494.14 0.00
2009 03 14 03 15 34.12 37.03 31.32 23.36 0.00 0.00= =20 0.00 0.00
2009 03 14 03 30 33.87 30.14 35.05 29.91 0.00 0.00 0.00=20 0.00
2009 03 14 03 45 30.91 26.89 26.38 23.12 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
20= 09=20 03 14 04 00 32.25 44.39 25.68 24.24 0.00 0.00 1494.14 0.00
2009 03 14 0= 4 15=20 40.13 39.54 35.79 24.24 0.00 1495.51 1494.14 0.00
2009 03 14 04 30 44.7= 1=20 42.47 29.35 30.72 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
2009 03 14 04 45 33.16 37.11 35.3= 2=20 23.03 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
2009 03 14 05 00 48.07 46.44 34.46 25.30 0.00= =20 1495.90 1494.14 0.00
2009 03 14 05 15 43.12 47.39 30.40 23.83 0.00 1495= .70=20 1494.14 0.00
2009 03 14 05 30 48.13 31.83 37.48 26.50 0.00 1495.70 0.00= =20 0.00
2009 03 14 05 45 47.11 42.90 37.04 22.88 0.00 1495.90 1494.34=20 0.00
2009 03 14 06 00 28.69 30.99 30.46 23.66 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
20= 09=20 03 14 06 15 41.04 31.09 29.58 23.29 0.00 1495.90 0.00=20 0.00
 
The 'red' station usually seems the strongest=20= on the=20 graph...
 
TNX
 
Dave @ /17
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 5:57= =20 AM
Subject: LF: Re: Multi-function=20 beacon

Just a reminder to all - this beacon is still going, and will proba= bly=20 continue to do so until further notice.   A few listeners have= =20 downloaded the software, and thanks to all (you know who your are :-) fo= r=20 the plots / listings.   I am not in a position to compile them= , so=20 don't expect revelations, but Gerhard  /  DK6NI has been=20 monitoring pretty well continuously, and has plotted some deep= =20 fades / enhancements measured over hours with depths in the regions of=20 30dB.
 
Are there any stations in the US in a position to monitor=20 ?  
 
Please note that if using the recommended 5meg beacon monitoring=20 software you'll either have to set the delta time to -240 (or -180 or -1= 20)=20 seconds or adjust the PC clock by two, three or four minutes to cope wit= h=20 the four minute offset I'm running it on.
 
Andy  G4JNT

 
2009/3/6 Andy Talbot <andy.g4jn= t@googlemail.com>
I've now started transmitting a timed  beacon signal on= =20 503.7kHz that is identical in format to that of GB3SSS operated o= ver=20 the winter months of the last two years  from Poldhu on 1.9=20= and=20 3.5MHz,  and has a similar signal structure to the 5MHz beac= ons,=20 GB3RAL, WES and ORK.  These all have an initial CW ident=20 and stepped power levels for aural reception, and a precisel= y=20 defined period of full-power plain carrier for S/N=20 measurements.  
See   http://www.rsgb-spectrumf= orum.org.uk/5mhz%20beacons.htm =20 for the complete 5MHz  signal structure.  For this MF=20 transmission, as on GB3SSS, the pulsed sounder sequence of the 5MHz=20 beacons is replaced with a PSK31 message which lasts from 30s to=20 approx 48 seconds after the start
 
Auto Monitoring software writen by G3PLX is available for monitor= ing=20 these beacons, it measures signal to noise during the carrier period a= nd=20 saves to file as well as plotting the last 40 hours worth of=20 measurements.
The software can be downloaded from  htt= p://www.rsgb.org/spectrumforum/hf/beaconauto.php .  =20 PSK31 data can be copied with Digipan, Fldigi, PSK31SBW or a host of o= ther=20 packages.
 
TIMING
The 503.7kHz transmission takes place every 15 minutes at 4 minut= es=20 past the quarter hour. 
ie each transmission starts at xx:04, xx:19, xx:34 a= nd=20 xx:49    This time slot has been selected= so=20 that the transmission do not interfere with my continuous ongoing=20 reception of the 5Mhz beacons - the active antenna used for these is=20 overloaded by the 500kHz signal and I have already lost data when the=20= WSPR=20 beacon transmission coincided with one of the monitoring windows.
 
NOTE   If using the G3PLX software, this=20 only monitors for the three 5MHz beacons at  00, 01 and 02=20 minutes.
SO IT WILL BE NECESSARY TO FRIG THE SOFTWARE=20  to monitor this transmission at the 04 minute=20 point.   The necessary alteration can be done by firstl= y=20 setting your PC clock accurately to the correct time, then settin= g=20 the Track Time box to -240 (minus 240 seconds).  This will make t= he=20 software look for this transmission during the time window it thi= nks=20 it would be receiving GB3RAL, and log the MF transmission during=20= the=20 first minute, on the red trace, as if it were GB3RAL 
 
The beacon uses the identical hardware to the WSPR transmiss= ions=20 of the last few weeks, with the the only change being=20 a reprogramming of the controller PIC.   In fact the ve= ry=20 same hardware was previously loaned to the Poldhu club for their beaco= ns,=20 with the only difference being a change to the final Low Pass filter o= n=20 the output of the broadband PA.
 


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------=_NextPart_000_008D_01C9A4AC.FF45BB60-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md03.mx.aol.com (rly-md03.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.141]) by air-md05.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD054-8f549c8035e244; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 17:47:29 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md03.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD035-8f549c8035e244; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 17:47:12 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Llryf-0002dE-2z for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 21:46:37 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Llrye-0002d5-N4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 21:46:36 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-2-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.53]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Llryb-0005lI-VV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 21:46:36 +0000 X-Trace: 171317607/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.59.96/None/g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.59.96 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Microsoft Office Outlook 11Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AoUHAAOUx0lYajtg/2dsb2JhbACCKCtUhgB9g2jEDgeDdwY X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,410,1233532800"; d="scan'208,217";a="171317607" Received: from 88-106-59-96.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.59.96]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 23 Mar 2009 21:46:31 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF -RSGB LF Group" Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 21:46:31 -0000 Message-ID: <004901c9ac00$d46ed2e0$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AcmsANPWJNo+6IQDSbiXeCSfbce0rA== X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 500KHz grabbers Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_004A_01C9AC00.D46ED2E0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_004A_01C9AC00.D46ED2E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit LF, Sorry if the grabbers look in a poor state, the wind gusts have damaged the top-load capacity hat & it is now lashing around & upsetting the grabbers. So, until I have the time to effect a repair it may not produce very pleasant results. Of course the grabbers are not using the vertical antenna but the close proximity of that antenna to the Mini-Whip will cause Rx problems. 73, Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. ------=_NextPart_000_004A_01C9AC00.D46ED2E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

LF,

 =

Sorry if the grabbers look in a= poor state, the wind gusts have damaged the top-load capacity hat & it is now lashin= g around & upsetting the grabbers.

 =

So, until I have the time to ef= fect a repair it may not produce very pleasant results.

 =

Of course the grabbers are not=20= using the vertical antenna but the close proximity of that antenna to the Mini-Whip wi= ll cause Rx problems.

 =

73,

 

Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.=

 

------=_NextPart_000_004A_01C9AC00.D46ED2E0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de03.mx.aol.com (rly-de03.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.139]) by air-de05.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDE053-4c149c0031548; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 16:08:16 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de03.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE032-4c149c0031548; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 16:07:51 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LjfZa-0006P2-41 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 20:07:38 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LjfZZ-0006Ot-Hj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 20:07:37 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-4-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.55]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LjfZW-0002R0-To for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 20:07:37 +0000 X-Trace: 165098479/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.59.96/None/g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.59.96 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Microsoft Office Outlook 11Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgsFAIefv0lYajtg/2dsb2JhbACCJitURIY3g1/GIweDdQY X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,381,1233532800"; d="gif'147?scan'147,208,217,147";a="165098479" Received: from 88-106-59-96.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.59.96]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 17 Mar 2009 20:06:30 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 20:06:30 -0000 Message-ID: <005501c9a73b$dd0b8ac0$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AcmnOpEJsk697SvhSdKQJ2Qt/VpvRAAAMMlw X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: RE: Who's playing on 503.7 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0056_01C9A73B.DD0DD4B0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0056_01C9A73B.DD0DD4B0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0057_01C9A73B.DD0DD4B0" ------=_NextPart_001_0057_01C9A73B.DD0DD4B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Andy, LF, I have not detected anything here other than your Tx. I was going to e-mail anyway because I have some false decodes on the 5 & 6 minute slots, see list below. These coincide with high bursts of noise which I experience here from time to time. Is there an issue with the decode software being "foxed" by high noise level? Gary - G4WGT. 15:45 40.35 25.76 -240.0 0.0 15:46 41.05 25.76 -240.0 1499.5 15:47 39.52 25.76 -240.0 0.0 16:00 41.70 25.75 -240.0 1499.5 16:01 41.62 25.75 -240.0 1510.6 16:02 31.49 25.75 -240.0 0.0 16:15 40.10 25.47 -240.0 0.0 16:16 30.16 25.47 -240.0 0.0 16:17 29.17 25.47 -240.0 0.0 16:30 37.85 28.93 -240.0 0.0 16:31 41.80 28.93 -240.0 0.0 16:32 36.23 28.93 -240.0 0.0 16:45 40.98 25.80 -240.0 1499.6 16:46 29.45 25.80 -240.0 0.0 16:47 30.17 25.80 -240.0 0.0 17:00 35.23 25.58 -240.0 0.0 17:01 28.35 25.58 -240.0 0.0 17:02 35.28 25.58 -240.0 0.0 17:15 45.32 25.10 -240.0 1499.4 17:16 30.14 25.10 -240.0 0.0 17:17 27.57 25.10 -240.0 0.0 17:30 51.09 25.30 -240.0 1499.5 17:31 53.16 25.30 -240.0 1499.6 17:32 30.18 25.30 -240.0 0.0 17:45 47.93 25.21 -240.0 1499.5 17:46 48.63 25.21 -240.0 1499.5 17:47 49.12 25.21 -240.0 1499.5 18:00 38.75 34.29 -240.0 0.0 18:01 32.01 34.29 -240.0 0.0 18:02 28.89 34.29 -240.0 0.0 18:15 51.36 26.01 -240.0 1499.6 18:16 38.85 26.01 -240.0 0.0 18:17 40.74 26.01 -240.0 0.0 18:30 43.06 24.96 -240.0 1499.5 18:31 29.24 24.96 -240.0 0.0 18:32 29.61 24.96 -240.0 0.0 18:45 36.98 26.26 -240.0 0.0 18:46 34.87 26.26 -240.0 0.0 18:47 36.14 26.26 -240.0 0.0 19:00 50.09 26.57 -240.0 1499.7 19:01 42.04 26.57 -240.0 1518.0 19:02 28.58 26.57 -240.0 0.0 _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Andy Talbot Sent: 17 March 2009 19:48 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Who's playing on 503.7 OK, Who is it? We can see you There's activity in the 5 and 6 minutes slots. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com ------=_NextPart_001_0057_01C9A73B.DD0DD4B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Andy, LF,

&nb= sp;

I have not detected anything here other than your Tx.<= /p>

&nb= sp;

I was going to e-mail anyway because I have some false decodes on the 5 & 6 minute slots, see list below. These coincide with high bursts of noise which= I experience here from time to time. Is there an issue with the decode softwar= e being “foxed” by high noise level?<= /p>

&nb= sp;

Gary = 211; G4WGT.

&nb= sp;

15:45&nb= sp; 40.35  25.76  -240.0  0.0

15:46&nb= sp; 41.05  25.76  -240.0  1499.5

15:47&nb= sp; 39.52  25.76  -240.0  0.0

16:00&nb= sp; 41.70  25.75  -240.0  1499.5

16:01&nb= sp; 41.62  25.75  -240.0  1510.6

16:02&nb= sp; 31.49  25.75  -240.0  0.0

16:15&nb= sp; 40.10  25.47  -240.0  0.0

16:16&nb= sp; 30.16  25.47  -240.0  0.0

16:17&nb= sp; 29.17  25.47  -240.0  0.0

16:30&nb= sp; 37.85  28.93  -240.0  0.0

16:31&nb= sp; 41.80  28.93  -240.0  0.0

16:32&nb= sp; 36.23  28.93  -240.0  0.0

16:45&nb= sp; 40.98  25.80  -240.0  1499.6

16:46&nb= sp; 29.45  25.80  -240.0  0.0

16:47&nb= sp; 30.17  25.80  -240.0  0.0

17:00&nb= sp; 35.23  25.58  -240.0  0.0

17:01&nb= sp; 28.35  25.58  -240.0  0.0

17:02&nb= sp; 35.28  25.58  -240.0  0.0

17:15&nb= sp; 45.32  25.10  -240.0  1499.4

17:16&nb= sp; 30.14  25.10  -240.0  0.0

17:17&nb= sp; 27.57  25.10  -240.0  0.0

17:30&nb= sp; 51.09  25.30  -240.0  1499.5

17:31&nb= sp; 53.16  25.30  -240.0  1499.6

17:32&nb= sp; 30.18  25.30  -240.0  0.0

17:45&nb= sp; 47.93  25.21  -240.0  1499.5

17:46&nb= sp; 48.63  25.21  -240.0  1499.5

17:47&nb= sp; 49.12  25.21  -240.0  1499.5

18:00&nb= sp; 38.75  34.29  -240.0  0.0

18:01&nb= sp; 32.01  34.29  -240.0  0.0

18:02&nb= sp; 28.89  34.29  -240.0  0.0

18:15&nb= sp; 51.36  26.01  -240.0  1499.6

18:16&nb= sp; 38.85  26.01  -240.0  0.0

18:17&nb= sp; 40.74  26.01  -240.0  0.0

18:30&nb= sp; 43.06  24.96  -240.0  1499.5

18:31&nb= sp; 29.24  24.96  -240.0  0.0

18:32&nb= sp; 29.61  24.96  -240.0  0.0

18:45&nb= sp; 36.98  26.26  -240.0  0.0

18:46&nb= sp; 34.87  26.26  -240.0  0.0

18:47&nb= sp; 36.14  26.26  -240.0  0.0

19:00&nb= sp; 50.09  26.57  -240.0  1499.7

19:01&nb= sp; 42.04  26.57  -240.0  1518.0

19:02&nb= sp; 28.58  26.57  -240.0  0.0

&nb= sp;

&nb= sp;

&nb= sp;

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Andy Talbot
Sent: 17 March 2009 19:48
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: Who's playing on 503.7

 

OK, Who is it?

We can see you

There's activity in the 5 and 6 minutes slots.<= /o:p>

 

 


Andy  G4JNT
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Marco, have a look here: http://www.radiocom.net/txvr.jpg I haven't tried it myself but it looks simple enough to give it a try. 73 Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO (currently on 440.015 kHz, tnx for the reception reports) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scholz, Marco " To: Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 9:55 PM Subject: LF: Looking for HF to LF-Transverter, ... ? Dear LF-Group, sorry for bandwidth, i looking for some sort of of mixer/transverter to use a shortwave transceiver on 137KHz for WSPR. Can be in experimental stage, but i need something to start. To build something from scratch is a bit a challenge for me, so i thought i ask around. Maybe someone has to sell some parts? If yes, please send me a mail to dd7pc@gmx.de Many thanks, vy73 Marco DD7PC From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da08.mx.aol.com (rly-da08.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.82]) by air-da10.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA104-a8849cbf09c2a3; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 17:16:16 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da08.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA088-a8849cbf09c2a3; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 17:16:15 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lmwuy-0004FN-E0 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 21:15:16 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lmwuy-0004FE-0R for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 21:15:16 +0000 Received: from cmsout01.mbox.net ([165.212.64.31]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lmwut-0002P4-Rj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 21:15:15 +0000 Received: from cmsout01.mbox.net (cmsout01-lo [127.0.0.1]) by cmsout01.mbox.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF4542AC6A9 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 21:15:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cmsapps03.cms.usa.net [165.212.11.132] by cmsout01.mbox.net via smtad (C8.MAIN.3.52G) with ESMTP id XID690NcZVPB3027X01; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 21:15:01 -0000 X-USANET-Source: 165.212.11.132 IN dibene@usa.net cmsapps03.cms.usa.net X-USANET-MsgId: XID690NcZVPB3027X01 Received: from [127.0.0.1] [151.47.217.227] by cmsapps03.cms.usa.net (ESMTPA/dibene@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.48O) with ESMTPA id 374NcZVPa8272M39; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 21:15:00 -0000 X-USANET-Auth: 151.47.217.227 AUTH dibene@usa.net [127.0.0.1] Message-ID: <49CBF051.9090707@usa.net> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 22:14:57 +0100 From: Alberto di Bene User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090216-1, 02/16/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Z-USANET-MsgId: XID374NcZVPa8272X39 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Lazy Man's CW made it to Venus and back Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Wolf, congratulations, especially for the ad-hoc version of your software. And I am sure that, after some past comments, you will now have more clear the meaning of the English saying of "throwing pearls to the porks".... 73 Alberto I2PHD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (rly-dd01.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.148]) by air-dd07.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDD072-b5b49afd2f3315; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 08:26:21 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD015-b5b49afd2f3315; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 08:26:14 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LfDaQ-0003Ns-Sq for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 13:26:06 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LfDaQ-0003Nj-Ge for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 13:26:06 +0000 Received: from qw-out-1920.google.com ([74.125.92.148]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LfDaP-0007Et-OK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 13:26:06 +0000 Received: by qw-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 4so3315763qwk.16 for ; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 05:26:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=jyBa1l2EWq8qb5leZPVWr1dWQ4wR2ZkeyknQ1Qgrk58=; b=sasEBxRQqSfyXSvaYeNyqa5KPnKuvYl72k572dC8WU76qrWKIT5gnHRoy0tJlRCHEN JVIYHM2EkIMrvO/AUx96DGS5rx63h6WKAaCUo1bjto0jC3baeDoeeAkPptU9SEk0WBAo i36Isw8IJsZTpNmyvLXL5dsafaQwSaSFba6gs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=UZHPPLigodJPf1t8zrG0QE6KwCLnRMUBm91M+B/LODI+v98Gz6y10CWMWGGkMGTNtg lSi4rX4IBTclRMCDk2znKF7JC1yu21lHEE1Y3BRj5nZUBdBDHZ1VeLlOfhE+KmTnPJBp wVQ5BH3OBkPzDijTwX1FXtdCL+i1S5cIvwS8Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.36.202 with SMTP id u10mr1805965qad.122.1236259564607; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 05:26:04 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 08:26:04 -0500 Message-ID: <57a24ca70903050526p3f5a238fp712c8488e0ea6160@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: Re: LF: xgj Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR, UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m262.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Victor, Thanks for the excellent capture! XGJ will be QRT for tonight. -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 12:36 AM, wrote: > Hi Warren,lf > > good copy of XGJ at 5:00z > > 73 > > Victor -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me03.mx.aol.com (rly-me03.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.36]) by air-me09.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME094-9ac49cfce7b15f; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 15:39:49 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me03.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME038-9ac49cfce7b15f; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 15:39:40 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lo0qI-000528-J0 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 20:38:50 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lo0qI-00051z-3V for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 20:38:50 +0100 Received: from mailout01.t-online.de ([194.25.134.80]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lo0qG-0003BN-A9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 20:38:50 +0100 Received: from fwd04.aul.t-online.de by mailout01.t-online.de with smtp id 1Lo0pG-0004RK-04; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 21:37:46 +0200 Received: from e7010 (ZBnFIcZcrhCvtxg3A6mCHIJbqLu+5yP6j1soHmyEQnicizrx1ge2o8yV3YYb-nxZ6g@[84.147.199.15]) by fwd04.aul.t-online.de with smtp id 1Lo0pB-0ELqGO0; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 21:37:41 +0200 Message-ID: <000a01c9b0a5$d30173f0$1402a8c0@e7010> From: "Walter und Marianne Staubach" To: Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 21:37:40 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4927.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 X-ID: ZBnFIcZcrhCvtxg3A6mCHIJbqLu+5yP6j1soHmyEQnicizrx1ge2o8yV3YYb-nxZ6g X-TOI-MSGID: ed1df50e-4c91-4d3a-9322-0235fc8e794c X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: DI2AG more power Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C9B0B6.96504830" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C9B0B6.96504830 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear All on MF, pse excuse - I forgot to set the new power since 17:00 UTC. 33dBm=20= instead of 27dBm. Is now correct. 73 Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C9B0B6.96504830 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear All on MF,
       =    pse excuse - I=20 forgot to set the new power since 17:00 UTC. 33dBm instead of 27dBm. Is now=20 correct.
73  Walter   DI2AG /=20 DJ2LF
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C9B0B6.96504830-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc06.mx.aol.com (rly-dc06.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.35]) by air-dc08.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDC084-b2a49aac6831a7; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 12:31:54 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc06.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC066-b2a49aac6831a7; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 12:31:49 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LdpVl-0005mc-Ra for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 17:31:33 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LdpVl-0005mT-F4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 17:31:33 +0000 Received: from mail-fx0-f174.google.com ([209.85.220.174]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LdpVk-0003Zw-Kj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 17:31:33 +0000 Received: by fxm22 with SMTP id 22so1994083fxm.4 for ; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 09:31:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=67Zf8T1v4i8ATq1obwtfB+bZXa8iylHhaMA375mEaE4=; b=gXUW+bK8HZ/YUo18T6iC1Z53nTopNXINi3kBUMxblfbYkY77EO7fYnG9ajidcFWezH MC2lTtrXoXuiyIRm3LzjZrXYSJbKXD+OPSI2gb3OPAo+7BSng7iO2zMdJ/7O9jdfVKgb vczS8Lsau8DMvrHBzGfipNgI1l+UQE1zo4z8Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=FhWgYEzRTiS0Dwe2wR+2S960W4eTgj9bBHfczaKWFNBPkwY6iHRjppVslHVvQConmU tt/i9Xilmk7E7HGeFHJfIfnJXeB+EUwvrcB0lF+0Yv9CoIxASxe7iTiZk2tVH7Tin4At MAaU1JeC9s6oMEAxrW8q4LNX5ZeV5SHFHKYOk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.108.15 with SMTP id d15mr5172774fap.105.1235928686557; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 09:31:26 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <000a01c99a91$a54a1180$1402a8c0@e7010> References: <000a01c99a91$a54a1180$1402a8c0@e7010> Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 17:31:26 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WSPR on 600m Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m219.2 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) G4JNT will NOT be WSPRing tonight. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/3/1 Walter und Marianne Staubach : > Dear All on MF, > =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 DI2AG will transmit WSPR tonight. Beginning 18UTC, e= nding 7UTC. > Dial frequency 503.6KHz, beacon on 505.090KHz. Power 1W ERP. Reports > welcome. Please report on WSPRnet.org or this reflector. > > 73=A0 Walter=A0 DI2AG / DJ2LF > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me07.mx.aol.com (rly-me07.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.41]) by air-me09.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINME093-9c649c011b0143; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 17:10:13 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me07.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME072-9c649c011b0143; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 17:10:11 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LjgXl-0006zQ-I1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 21:09:49 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LjgXl-0006zH-50 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 21:09:49 +0000 Received: from smtp3-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.3]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LjgXj-0002mO-9H for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 21:09:49 +0000 Received: from smtp3-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp3-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98DC2818049 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 22:09:44 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp3-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 748F4818193 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 22:09:41 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <49C01194.2010305@online.fr> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 22:09:40 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: [137kHz] Test de f1afj qrss60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello LF I am in test on 137775 qrss60, 300 W until 22:00z Your reports will be welcome 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh08.mx.aol.com (rly-mh08.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.144]) by air-mh01.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMH012-bef49c15f5af5; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 16:54:18 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh08.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH087-bef49c15f5af5; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 16:53:47 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lk2lj-0002tG-SO for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 20:53:43 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lk2lj-0002t7-H4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 20:53:43 +0000 Received: from psmtp31.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.33]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lk2lh-0001Fa-HJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 20:53:43 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp31.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KGP00AHHZDB30@psmtp31.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:53:35 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:53:35 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <73A0D1BFA1F64CD4B5917B0EC67BF55B@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: DD7PCc 18-03.jpg Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_5tNdGVYRKaGC3l5MZhtkPg)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; 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b=WZo5jdwF3keq0SjoOIcgdEaF8ali4fqB02KMvAofFGFdq0cPyBgzTt6vPID1l6HCuh pipo/ohVLIEEfGUwN5JN0JMgGgCKCqnf4o5b5sTvo4blbRnkkIpzrJQmp36gyioLFVLK vx2p0XkOlNOMjY7L1I5YdYiRZmMR/eiADIur8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.3.70 with SMTP id 48mr812928weg.74.1238161654649; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 06:47:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 13:47:34 +0000 Message-ID: <8bf118410903270647t5ebb0cedi82b96e2ea73075bd@mail.gmail.com> From: Dave Pick To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Lazy Man's CW made it to Venus and back Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e64c1e8e9993e1046619f923 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m279.2 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --0016e64c1e8e9993e1046619f923 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit How many miles per Watt is that?!! Dave 'YXM 2009/3/26 > Greetings everyone, > > Not really LF, but QRSS... > > A group of radio amateurs from AMSAT-DL has successfully transmitted a > (very short) message in QRSS, consisting of the two letters "HI" (im > memoriam of old OSCARS) to Venus on 2.4 GHz, and received the reflection. > Each TX/RX over lasted for about 5 minutes (the travelling time). The > transmitter was a 5 kW magnetron disciplined to a narrow-band transmitter. > Details on the AMSAT-DL website. The German HR TV will send a documentation > tonight at 19:30 (local). The EVE (Earth-Venus-Earth) details follow > tomorrow on Hessischer Rundfunk. > > 73, > Wolf DL4YHF > (from the IUZ in Bochum) > > > > > > #adBox3 {display:none;} > > > -- G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK --0016e64c1e8e9993e1046619f923 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable How many miles per Watt is that?!!

Dave 'YXM

2009/3/26 <dl4yhf@freenet.de>
Greetings everyone,

Not really LF, but QRSS...

A group of radio amateurs from AMSAT-DL has successfully transmitted a (very= short) message in QRSS, consisting of the two letters "HI" (im me= moriam of old OSCARS) to Venus on 2.4 GHz, and received the reflection.
Each TX/RX over lasted for about 5 minutes (the travelling time). The transm= itter was a 5 kW magnetron disciplined to a narrow-band transmitter. Details= on the AMSAT-DL website. The German HR TV will send a documentation tonight= at 19:30 (local). The EVE (Earth-Venus-Earth) details follow tomorrow on He= ssischer Rundfunk.

73,
=A0Wolf DL4YHF
=A0(from the IUZ in Bochum)





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--0016e64c1e8e9993e1046619f923-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh06.mx.aol.com (rly-mh06.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.142]) by air-mh01.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMH011-bdf49c1f094225; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 03:13:47 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh06.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH067-bdf49c1f094225; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 03:13:27 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LkCQj-0001Hk-2t for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 07:12:41 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LkCQi-0001Hb-Ms for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 07:12:40 +0000 Received: from mail7.ssmb.com ([199.67.204.181] helo=mail.citigroup.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LkCQg-0004Yd-Nv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 07:12:40 +0000 Received: from imbarc-eu02.eur.nsroot.net (imbarc-eu02 [169.186.216.28]) by imbaspam-eu03.eur.nsroot.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/SSMB_EXT/ev: 22534 $) with ESMTP id n2J7CUAO024752 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 07:12:31 GMT Received: from mailhub-dc1.eu.ssmb.com (mailhub-dc1.eu.ssmb.com [169.186.145.234]) by imbarc-eu02.eur.nsroot.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/SSMB_QQQ_IN/1.1) with ESMTP id n2J7CQBQ025559 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 07:12:26 GMT Received: from exuksm06.eur.nsroot.net (Exuksm06.eur.nsroot.net [169.183.26.36]) by mailhub-dc1.eu.ssmb.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/CG_HUB) with ESMTP id n2J7CMrI000925 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 07:12:22 GMT Received: from exukmb49.eur.nsroot.net ([169.183.32.64]) by exuksm06.eur.nsroot.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Thu, 19 Mar 2009 07:12:21 +0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6619.12 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 07:12:21 -0000 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: PC,AFJ,DTL Thread-Index: AcmoU8aRanDcrA7CT1KhIeqYOu8jTgADik5A From: "Scholz, Marco " To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Mar 2009 07:12:21.0734 (UTC) FILETIME=[0BF07860:01C9A862] X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 169.186.160.42 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 1.4 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: LF: RE: PC,AFJ,DTL X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR, SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Good morning Victor, Thanks for report and capture of my signal. vy73 Marco DD7PC, JN49ax=20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of victor13@online.nl Sent: 19 March 2009 06:25 To: blacksheep Subject: LF: PC,AFJ,DTL Hi,Marco,Jean-Pierre,Nicolas, good signals in a QRSS60 screen, 73 Victor PA3FNY JO22NC From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd06.mx.aol.com (rly-dd06.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.153]) by air-dd02.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD023-b8549c8aa09213; 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From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh11.mx.aol.com (rly-mh11.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.147]) by air-mh03.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMH033-61449c01d4b3bc; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 18:00:04 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh11.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH111-61449c01d4b3bc; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 17:59:42 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LjhJn-0007nB-8U for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 21:59:27 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LjhJm-0007n2-F9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 21:59:26 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-2-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.53]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LjhJg-00036d-Fy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 21:59:26 +0000 X-Trace: 168623406/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.59.96/None/g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.59.96 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Microsoft Office Outlook 11Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArAHAIu5v0lYajtg/2dsb2JhbACCJitURIU6fYNfxXQHg3UG X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,381,1233532800"; d="gif'147?scan'147,208,217,147";a="168623406" Received: from 88-106-59-96.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.59.96]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 17 Mar 2009 21:59:17 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <005501c9a73b$dd0b8ac0$6401a8c0@asus> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 21:59:16 -0000 Message-ID: <007901c9a74b$9e595450$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AcmnQGpNLR16XYh4TuCtDgP6Dpa1XwAB4GUQ X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: RE: LF: RE: Who's playing on 503.7 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_007A_01C9A74B.9E595450" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_007A_01C9A74B.9E595450 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_007B_01C9A74B.9E595450" ------=_NextPart_001_007B_01C9A74B.9E595450 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Andy, >>>> Did the messages about the modified beacon timing software get though this reflector - don't appear to see them in the in box? I received the original & the correction to the url. OK, I used "decode" as the first word that came out of my head. I have looked at the black trace on my beacon chart & it doesn't seem to coincide with the peaks on the blue & green trace, there is a black peak but slightly offset. On my grabber saves there is very high noise level for a couple of minutes some times the blue & green has a peak which shows on the text log as well. But I have also seen very short carriers which I thought at first were part of you normal beacon signal & when looking carefully at the timestamp were at the following times - 1735, 1750 & 1751. At these times there was no burst of noise. Cheers, Gary - G4WGT. _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Andy Talbot Sent: 17 March 2009 20:36 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: RE: Who's playing on 503.7 continued ... The black trace gives it away. If there is extended QRM that spans the noise measurement period (which is the WHOLE minute before) and the 5s Tx period it will show up on both. The different system of noise measurement explains why the (no QRMed) green and blue traces are not sitting on top of teh black trace. Ideally, with no signal there, they should. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/3/17 Andy Talbot I filled in a couple at 1800, deliberately, by flicking the test switch on my beacon Tx. But there are too many peaks on the green annd blue traces to not suspect someone else is firing up a Tx. Its not a case of false decodes - there's not such thing as a 'decode' with this monitoring S/W. All it does is to measure the signal power over precisely this time slot, using a synchronised FFT with a bin size of 0.2Hz, which after windowing gives about 0.4Hz noise bandwidth. So any QRM would have to be quite strong to make a significant impact, and persist over 5 seconds. Short spikes get averaged out to not-a-lot. Did the messages about the modified beacon timing software get though this reflector - don't appear to see them in the in box? If not, http://www.g4jnt.com/beacons.htm at the bottom look for PCBCN Directly, http://www.g4jnt.com/PCBCN.zip Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/3/17 Gary - G4WGT Hi Andy, LF, I have not detected anything here other than your Tx. I was going to e-mail anyway because I have some false decodes on the 5 & 6 minute slots, see list below. These coincide with high bursts of noise which I experience here from time to time. Is there an issue with the decode software being "foxed" by high noise level? Gary - G4WGT. 15:45 40.35 25.76 -240.0 0.0 15:46 41.05 25.76 -240.0 1499.5 15:47 39.52 25.76 -240.0 0.0 16:00 41.70 25.75 -240.0 1499.5 16:01 41.62 25.75 -240.0 1510.6 16:02 31.49 25.75 -240.0 0.0 16:15 40.10 25.47 -240.0 0.0 16:16 30.16 25.47 -240.0 0.0 16:17 29.17 25.47 -240.0 0.0 16:30 37.85 28.93 -240.0 0.0 16:31 41.80 28.93 -240.0 0.0 16:32 36.23 28.93 -240.0 0.0 16:45 40.98 25.80 -240.0 1499.6 16:46 29.45 25.80 -240.0 0.0 16:47 30.17 25.80 -240.0 0.0 17:00 35.23 25.58 -240.0 0.0 17:01 28.35 25.58 -240.0 0.0 17:02 35.28 25.58 -240.0 0.0 17:15 45.32 25.10 -240.0 1499.4 17:16 30.14 25.10 -240.0 0.0 17:17 27.57 25.10 -240.0 0.0 17:30 51.09 25.30 -240.0 1499.5 17:31 53.16 25.30 -240.0 1499.6 17:32 30.18 25.30 -240.0 0.0 17:45 47.93 25.21 -240.0 1499.5 17:46 48.63 25.21 -240.0 1499.5 17:47 49.12 25.21 -240.0 1499.5 18:00 38.75 34.29 -240.0 0.0 18:01 32.01 34.29 -240.0 0.0 18:02 28.89 34.29 -240.0 0.0 18:15 51.36 26.01 -240.0 1499.6 18:16 38.85 26.01 -240.0 0.0 18:17 40.74 26.01 -240.0 0.0 18:30 43.06 24.96 -240.0 1499.5 18:31 29.24 24.96 -240.0 0.0 18:32 29.61 24.96 -240.0 0.0 18:45 36.98 26.26 -240.0 0.0 18:46 34.87 26.26 -240.0 0.0 18:47 36.14 26.26 -240.0 0.0 19:00 50.09 26.57 -240.0 1499.7 19:01 42.04 26.57 -240.0 1518.0 19:02 28.58 26.57 -240.0 0.0 _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Andy Talbot Sent: 17 March 2009 19:48 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Who's playing on 503.7 OK, Who is it? We can see you There's activity in the 5 and 6 minutes slots. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com ------=_NextPart_001_007B_01C9A74B.9E595450 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Andy,

&nb= sp;

>>= >> Did the messages about the modified beacon timing software get though this reflector - don't appear to see them in the in box?

I received the original & the correction to the url.

&nb= sp;

OK, I used “decode” as the first word that came out of my head.

&nb= sp;

I have looked at the black trace on my beacon chart & it doesn’t seem to=20= coincide with the peaks on the blue & green trace, there is a black peak but slightly offset. On my grabber saves there is very high noise level for a couple of minutes some times the blue & green has a peak which shows on=20= the text log as well.

&nb= sp;

But I have also seen very short carriers which I thought at first were part of you normal beacon signal & when looking carefully at the timestamp were at t= he following times – 1735, 1750 & 1751. At these times there was no burst of noise.

&nb= sp;

Cheers,<= o:p>

&nb= sp;

Gary - G4WGT.

&nb= sp;

&nb= sp;

&nb= sp;

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Andy Talbot
Sent: 17 March 2009 20:36
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: RE: Who's pl= aying on 503.7

 

continued ...

 

The black trace gives it away.  If there is extended=  QRM that spans  the noise measurement period (which is the WHOLE minute before) and the 5s Tx period it will show up on both.   The differ= ent system of noise measurement explains why the (no QRMed) green and blue traces are not sitting on top of teh black trace.   Ideally, with=20= no signal there, they should.


Andy  G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com

2009/3/17 Andy Talbot <andy.g4jnt@google= mail.com>

I filled in a couple at 1800, deliberately, by flicking t= he test switch on my beacon Tx.   But there are too many peaks on the green annd blue traces to not suspect someone else is firing up a Tx.

 

Its not a case of false decodes - there's not such thing=20= as a 'decode' with this monitoring S/W.   All it does is to measure the sig= nal power over precisely  this time slot, using a synchronised FFT wit= h a bin size of 0.2Hz, which after windowing gives about 0.4Hz noise bandwidth.  So any QRM would have to be quite strong to make a significant impact, and persist over 5 seconds.   Short spikes get  averaged out to not-a-lot.

 

Did the messages about the modified beacon timing softwar= e get though this reflector - don't appear to see them in the in box?

 

If not,  http://www.g4jnt.com/beacons.htm at the bottom look for PCBCN

 


Andy  G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com

2009/3/17 Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>

 

Hi Andy, LF,

 <= o:p>

I have not detected anyth= ing here other than your Tx.

 <= o:p>

I was going to e-mail any= way because I have some false decodes on the 5 & 6 minute slots, see list below. These coincide with high bursts of noise which I experience here from time to time. Is there an issue with the decode software being “foxed” by high noise level?

 <= o:p>

Gary – G4WGT.

 <= o:p>

15:45  40.35  25.76  -240.0  0.0

15:46  41.05  25.76  -240.0  1499.5

15:47  39.52  25.76  -240.0  0.0

16:00  41.70  25.75  -240.0  1499.5

16:01  41.62  25.75  -240.0  1510.6

16:02  31.49  25.75  -240.0  0.0

16:15  40.10  25.47  -240.0  0.0

16:16  30.16  25.47  -240.0  0.0

16:17  29.17  25.47  -240.0  0.0

16:30  37.85  28.93  -240.0  0.0

16:31  41.80  28.93  -240.0  0.0

16:32  36.23  28.93  -240.0  0.0

16:45  40.98  25.80  -240.0  1499.6

16:46  29.45  25.80  -240.0  0.0

16:47  30.17  25.80  -240.0  0.0

17:00  35.23  25.58  -240.0  0.0

17:01  28.35  25.58  -240.0  0.0

17:02  35.28  25.58  -240.0  0.0

17:15  45.32  25.10  -240.0  1499.4

17:16  30.14  25.10  -240.0  0.0

17:17  27.57  25.10  -240.0  0.0

17:30  51.09  25.30  -240.0  1499.5

17:31  53.16  25.30  -240.0  1499.6

17:32  30.18  25.30  -240.0  0.0

17:45  47.93  25.21  -240.0  1499.5

17:46  48.63  25.21  -240.0  1499.5

17:47  49.12  25.21  -240.0  1499.5

18:00  38.75  34.29  -240.0  0.0

18:01  32.01  34.29  -240.0  0.0

18:02  28.89  34.29  -240.0  0.0

18:15  51.36  2= 6.01  -240.0  1499.6

18:16  38.85  26.01  -240.0  0.0

18:17  40.74  26.01  -240.0  0.0

18:30  43.06  24.96  -240.0  1499.5

18:31  29.24  24.96  -240.0  0.0

18:32  29.61  24.96  -240.0  0.0

18:45  36.98  26.26  -240.0  0.0

18:46  34.87  26.26  -240.0  0.0

18:47  36.14  26.26  -240.0  0.0

19:00  50.09  26.57  -240.0  1499.7

19:01  42.04  26.57  -240.0  1518.0

19:02  28.58  26.57  -240.0  0.0

 <= o:p>

 <= o:p>

 <= o:p>

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Andy Talbot
Sent: 17 March 2009 19:48
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Who's playing on 503.7

=  

= OK, Who is it? <= o:p>

= We can see you

= There's activity in the 5 and 6 minutes slots.

=  

=  

=
Andy  G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com

 

 

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That was my last night on 137 and tonight its going to be 500 as will my las= t night tomorrow. Email to follow.
 
The station is not attended at night, and we are housed about 30Km= s from the CATIE research establishment, nestled in a small bodega unde= r a fairly smoking and steaming all too close volcano. So not a lot of flex=20= to change modes or freqs.
 
The antennae is the baby bottle eprobe supported by an 11m fishing pole= . Noise is a problem but its a nearby 3 phase Hi Pot power line and they nee= d to clean or wash and replace some of the switching and iso's.
 
73 and thanks to all for the signals - Ill take a closer look at the capture= s later.
 
Laurence ti3/kl1x Turrialba Costa Rica
 

 
> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 10:58:31 -0400
> From: dmcin= tyre@att.net
> To: lowfer@mailman.qth.net
> CC: rsgb_lf_group@bl= acksheep.org
> Subject: LF: Re: [Lowfer] XGJ and XKO into TI3
>=20=
> Laurence,
>
> I kind of like this one better that I sn= agged from you page this morning
> just before sunrise :)
> > http://w4dex.com/lf/xko_reports/XKO_KL1X_CostaRica.jpg
>
>= ; Tnx,
> Dex
>
> Laurence BY3A-KL1X China wrote:
>=20= > http://kl1x.com/ti3.jpg
> >
> >
>
>
Express your personality in color! Preview and select themes fo= r Hotmail=AE. See how. =3D --_977defd6-79f1-4c82-a6ea-00dc50e8c13d_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me06.mx.aol.com (rly-me06.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.40]) by air-me02.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME024-9c449cd8d1b231; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 22:36:33 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me06.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME068-9c449cd8d1b231; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 22:36:14 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LnOO5-0000jb-Lx for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 02:35:09 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LnOO5-0000jS-Ap for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 02:35:09 +0000 Received: from psmtp30.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.32]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LnOO3-0004kT-Fh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 02:35:09 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp30.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KH7007MY36BB9@psmtp30.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 03:34:59 +0100 (MET) Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 03:34:59 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <09EEBFEAD3D34FD683AA5838C7343032@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: AGC 28-03.jpg Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_ot0LMsJ2tR6NYUfLSJp46w)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_ot0LMsJ2tR6NYUfLSJp46w) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_U4ZwQTgKllbFAsy4VbyVjg)" --Boundary_(ID_U4ZwQTgKllbFAsy4VbyVjg) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Nice capture AGC Henny cpm best 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: agc 28-03.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld. --Boundary_(ID_U4ZwQTgKllbFAsy4VbyVjg) Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
Nice capture AGC
Henny cpm
best 73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
agc 28-03.jpg

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--Boundary_(ID_zI2+1+HWUDr+mtojWo9Dlg)-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de03.mx.aol.com (rly-de03.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.139]) by air-de06.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDE063-4c649beba47307; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 16:45:13 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de03.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE037-4c649beba47307; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 16:44:56 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LjJfx-0006DY-5w for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 20:44:45 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LjJfw-0006DM-39 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 20:44:44 +0000 Received: from mail-fx0-f174.google.com ([209.85.220.174]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LjJfu-0005cZ-Bw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 20:44:44 +0000 Received: by fxm22 with SMTP id 22so3916365fxm.4 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 13:44:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=LV/7pIgQqdCr4sprMTXpHHf10f/EuzQn745QmbCI4Eo=; b=u4DVrPqINPWi2Qg5fuRlA8BMRVFJoG5vJ8CmmLqRAD1ZKXj96ORrzrLppVjhRKz3Kh /K8dtkhKZJapgLAVB6MrfvJmS/Klc70MvpRKsOA9aoS9KPo0sBrOROjZa9wtzwXeR/ZO x4b62fQAaclH/B6rUvFO5j2d8E7UnnZNuaU5k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=HNPGHO4WjMTIPu1b1WRdFHfVaX99rgTektL610qNiVV1377YhNdKoawZud4fES/OpN /EznTkl0MyT84M88Hf8XayFZpakRpqJl/RQ2AIISsklfffowRPZTr0a4jS3h/eRGpXEB gzf4A+ko3kUa1nkJ69VzVetULJU9zrYmePdME= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.31.215 with SMTP id z23mr1757693bkc.83.1237236275848; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 13:44:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <004a01c9a677$2a8b48a0$6401a8c0@asus> References: <009001c9a588$7eb02c60$6401a8c0@asus> <00e001c9a5a7$f07216a0$6401a8c0@asus> <826BA6086575402A8C87062492069F5A@AGB> <004501c9a623$a4bf81d0$6401a8c0@asus> <2ED02F4327204E3C903828F9E18AA72B@AGB> <001e01c9a665$ebeac870$6401a8c0@asus> <00be01c9a66e$c8bfdbc0$0900a8c0@AM> <004a01c9a677$2a8b48a0$6401a8c0@asus> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 20:44:35 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f791ceb9a72a046542844e X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNSAFE, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m257.1 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --001485f791ceb9a72a046542844e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Doesn't matter which - just total system gain. That S/W works best if the noise threshold rides at about 10dB above the baseline, then it allows for up to 70 - 80dB of signal peaks. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/3/16 Gary - G4WGT > Alan, > > When you wrote :- > my only comment is that you may have too much gain in the system. > > Are you meaning sound card or receiver gain? > > Gary. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Alan Melia > Sent: 16 March 2009 19:38 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software > > Hi Gary my only comment is that you may have too much gain in the system. > It > is sometimes better to have the noise further down nearer the axis. > > I am afraid there is a major problem with this kind of beacon, when the > fading period is shorter than the sampling interval, so you dont really > know > what the path is doing. The only reliable points are the peaks, the troughs > dont really mean anything without some very sophisticated analysis and > probably two spaced receivers. However it does give a snapshot of the band > without taking up too much bandwidth (this was what was required for 5MHz > too). Despite all the data collected very little analysis has actually be > done on the 5MHz data collected by this program. The one succesfull bit of > work was that published in Radcom by Marcis Walden G0IJZ. I used it for > some > time whilst Andy was testing the Poldhu beacon on 160m and also during the > 1st two months that ran. I was certainly surprised by the daytime path on > 160m from here. I have seen the data collected in Canada via Joe Craig > VO1NA > and it is difficult to see how to use it. > > Still if you dont collect the data you will never know!! > > Alan G3NYK > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gary - G4WGT" > To: > Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 6:35 PM > Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > Hi Graham, LF, > > > > > > > > The original HTML Code for the 2 minute refresh is still inserted into > the > > page format, so upload is 30 minute intervals with Syncback & 2 minute > > refresh. I have left the refresh in case I revert back to the original > > grabber page. I will look at changing it if I continue to use the beacon > > chart upload. > > > > > > > > I would like to have feedback from the LF group regarding the page, if > you > > check it out periodically, is it useful to you, what are you looking for. > > > > > > > > You can view the chart on my web site at :- > > > > > > > > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html > > > > > > > > 73 > > > > > > > > Gary - G4WGT. > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham > > Sent: 16 March 2009 17:20 > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > > > > > Hi Gary, > > > > > > > > The page seemed to refresh quite often ... are there two settings ? > > > > > > > > G .. > > > > > > > > From: Gary - G4WGT > > > > Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:40 AM > > > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > > > Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > > > > > Hi Graham, LF, > > > > > > > > You wrote :- > > > > >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute > > intervals. <<< that could be backed off to 15 mins as the beacon only > > sends every 15 ?? > > > > > > > > I mentioned in my previous mail to ignore the text on the page as it was > > originally for grabber 1 for when I upgrade the web site (to a new design > & > > better navigation etc), also mentioned is that upload is every 30 > minutes. > > > > > > > > If the uploaded chart proves useful or interesting to operators & viewers > > then I will change the text & make it a permanent feature for the > > foreseeable future. > > > > > > > > BTW :- > > > > > > > > For those of you who are not familiar with the chart - > > > > > > > > The RED trace is Andy's (G4JNT) beacon signal & the BLACK trace is the > noise > > level at my QTH. > > > > > > > > The Blue & GREEN are not in use & should be ignored on this chart as they > > are for the other beacons used when monitoring on the 5MHz allocation. > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > Gary - G4WGT > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham > > Sent: 15 March 2009 22:17 > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > > > > > Gary.. > > > > > > > > That looks good ... 0500 looks best time for a qso .. see you then Smile > > emoticon > > > > > > > > >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute > > intervals. <<< that could be backed off to 15 mins as the beacon only > > sends every 15 ?? > > > > > > > > the 15 db over the noise in day time is the same at this qth .. looks > like > > the big dips round 1900 where just when we where testing .. typical > hihi > > > > > > > > tnx- G .. > > > > > > > > From: Gary - G4WGT > > > > Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 7:55 PM > > > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > > > Subject: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > > > > > LF, > > > > > > > > I have now got the software, Syncback running correctly (I think). > > > > > > > > The purpose of this is to upload the chart from Andy's beacon as received > > here to my web site periodically, ie. every 30 minutes. > > > > > > > > I now have a receiver running 24/7 monitoring Andy,s beacon on 503.7KHz. > > > > > > > > You can view the chart on my web site at :- > > > > > > > > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html > > > > > > > > For the moment ignore the text on the page as it is originally designed > to > > use with the 500KHz grabber when I renew my web site design. If it is a > > useful upload I will make it a permanent feature but may have to extend > the > > frequency coverage of grabber 1 so not to overload the PC with operations > > which will cause the PC to struggle. > > > > > > > > Let me have your comments please. > > > > > > > > 73 > > > > > > > > Gary - G4WGT. > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT > > Sent: 15 March 2009 16:10 > > To: LF -RSGB LF Group > > Subject: LF: Syncback software > > > > > > > > Hi LF, > > > > > > > > If anyone is using Syncback software & can help, please. > > > > > > > > I am tying to upload a file to my website who's filename does not change, > > only the file size changes. I tried to do it with Argo-upload but failed > so > > I downloaded Syncback & still failing. > > > > > > > > Syncback gives me the following message :- > > > > > > > > ********************************** > > > > Can connect, but unable to change to destination directory: > > > > /chart01.bmp:not a directory > > > > ********************************** > > > > The Syncback help does not give me the answer. > > > > > > > > Any help will be appreciated > > > > > > > > Or > > > > > > > > Will Argo-Upload do it? > > > > > > > > Or > > > > > > > > Is there something else to do it? > > > > > > > > Thanks in anticipation, > > > > > > > > 73, > > > > > > > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.13/2001 - Release Date: > 03/14/09 > > 06:54:00 > > > > _____ > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.15/2003 - Release Date: > 03/15/09 > > 14:07:00 > > > > > > > > --001485f791ceb9a72a046542844e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Doesn't matter which - just total system gain.=A0 That S/W works be= st if the noise threshold rides at about 10dB above the baseline,=A0 then it= allows for up to 70 - 80dB of signal peaks.

Andy =A0G4JNT
www= .g4jnt.com


2009/3/16 Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
Alan,

When you wrote :-
my only comment is that you may have too much gain in the=20= system.

Are you meaning sound card or receiver gain?

Gary.


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Alan Melia
Sent:= 16 March 2009 19:38
To: rsgb_l= f_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software

= Hi Gary my only comment is that you may have too much gain in the system. It=
is sometimes better to have the noise further down nearer the axis.

I= am afraid there is a major problem with this kind of beacon, when the
fa= ding period is shorter than the sampling interval, so you dont really know what the path is doing. The only reliable points are the peaks, the troughs<= br>dont really mean anything without some very sophisticated analysis andprobably two spaced receivers. However it does give a snapshot of the band<= br> without taking up too much bandwidth (this was what was required for 5MHztoo). Despite all the data collected very little analysis has actually bedone on the 5MHz data collected by this program. The one succesfull bit of=
work was that published in Radcom by Marcis Walden G0IJZ. I used it for some=
time whilst Andy was testing the Poldhu beacon on 160m and also during t= he
1st two months that ran. I was certainly surprised by the daytime path= on
160m from here. I have seen the data collected in Canada via Joe Craig VO1NA=
and it is difficult to see how to use it.

Still if you dont colle= ct the data you will never know!!

Alan G3NYK




----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org&= gt;
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 6:35 PM
Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback softwa= re


> Hi Graham, LF,
>
>
>
> The origin= al HTML Code for the 2 minute refresh is still inserted into the
> pag= e format, so upload is 30 minute intervals with Syncback & 2 minute
> refresh. I have left the refresh in case I revert back to the original<= br>> grabber page. I will look at changing it if I continue to use the be= acon
> chart upload.
>
>
>
> I would like to h= ave feedback from the LF group regarding the page, if you
> check it out periodically, is it useful to you, what are you looking fo= r.
>
>
>
> You can view the chart on my web site at=20= :-
>
>
>
> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/g= rabber3.html
>
>
>
> 73
>
>
>
> Gary - G4WGT= .
>
>
>
>
>
> =A0 _____
>
>=20= From: owner-rsgb_lf_gr= oup@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsg= b_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham
> Sent: 16 March 20= 09 17:20
> To: rsgb_lf= _group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software
>
>
>
>=20= Hi Gary,
>
>
>
> The page seemed to =A0refresh quite= often ... are there two settings ?
>
>
>
> G ..
>
>
>
> From: Gary - G4WGT <mailto:g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
>
> Sent: Mond= ay, March 16, 2009 10:40 AM
>
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>
> Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software
>
>
><= br>> Hi Graham, LF,
>
>
>
> You wrote :-
><= br>> >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at=20= 2 minute
> intervals. <<< that could be backed off to =A015 mins as the b= eacon only
> sends every 15 ??
>
>
>
> I menti= oned in my previous mail to ignore the text on the page as it was
> or= iginally for grabber 1 for when I upgrade the web site (to a new design
&
> better navigation etc), also mentioned is that upload is every= 30 minutes.
>
>
>
> If the uploaded chart proves us= eful or interesting to operators & viewers
> then I will change th= e text & make it a permanent feature for the
> foreseeable future.
>
>
>
> BTW :-
>
&= gt;
>
> For those of you =A0who are not familiar with the chart=20= -
>
>
>
> The RED trace is Andy's (G4JNT) beacon= signal & the BLACK trace is the
noise
> level at my QTH.
>
>
>
> The Blue &= ; GREEN are not in use & should be ignored on this chart as they
>= are for the other beacons used when monitoring on the 5MHz allocation.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> Gary -=20= G4WGT
>
>
>
>
>
> =A0 _____
>
&= gt; From: owner-rsgb_l= f_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsg= b_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham
> Sent: 15 March 20= 09 22:17
> To: rsgb_lf= _group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software
>
>
>
>=20= Gary..
>
>
>
> That looks good =A0... 0500 looks bes= t time for a qso .. see you then Smile
> emoticon
>
>
>
> >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refres= h at 2 minute
> intervals. <<< that could be backed off to=20= =A015 mins as the beacon only
> sends every 15 ??
>
>
>
> the =A015 db over the noise in day time is the =A0same at this=20= qth .. looks
like
> the big dips round 1900 =A0where just when we w= here testing .. =A0typical hihi
>
>
>
> tnx- G .. >
>
>
> From: Gary - G4WGT <mailto:g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
>
> Sent: Sund= ay, March 15, 2009 7:55 PM
>
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>
> Subject: LF: RE: Syncback software
>
>
>
&= gt; LF,
>
>
>
> I have now got the software, Syncbac= k running correctly (I think).
>
>
>
> The purpose o= f this is to upload the chart from Andy's beacon as received
> here to my web site periodically, ie. every 30 minutes.
>
>=
>
> I now have a receiver running 24/7 monitoring Andy,s beacon= on 503.7KHz.
>
>
>
> You can view the chart on my w= eb site at :-
>
>
>
> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber= 3.html
>
>
>
> For the moment ignore the text on= the page as it is originally designed to
> use with the 500KHz grabber when I renew my web site design. If it is a=
> useful upload I will make it a permanent feature but may have to ex= tend
the
> frequency coverage of grabber 1 so not to overload the P= C with operations
> which will cause the PC to struggle.
>
>
>
> Le= t me have your comments please.
>
>
>
> 73
>>
>
> Gary - G4WGT.
>
>
>
> =A0 ___= __
>
> From: own= er-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Beh= alf Of Gary - G4WGT
> Sent: 15 March 2009 16:10
> To: LF -RSGB LF Group
> Subject= : LF: Syncback software
>
>
>
> Hi LF,
>
&g= t;
>
> If anyone is using Syncback software & can help, plea= se.
>
>
>
> I am tying to upload a file to my website who&#= 39;s filename does not change,
> only the file size changes. I tried t= o do it with Argo-upload but failed
so
> I downloaded Syncback &= ; still failing.
>
>
>
> Syncback gives me the following message :-
&= gt;
>
>
> **********************************
>
&g= t; Can connect, but unable to change to destination directory:
>
> /chart01.bmp:not a directory
>
> **************************= ********
>
> The Syncback help does not give me the answer.
&= gt;
>
>
> Any help will be appreciated
>
>
>
> Or
>
>
>
> Will Argo-Upload do it?
&= gt;
>
>
> Or
>
>
>
> Is there some= thing else to do it?
>
>
>
> Thanks in anticipation,=
>
>
>
> 73,
>
>
>
> Gary - G4WG= T - IO83QP.
>
>
>
> =A0 _____
>
>
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--001485f791ceb9a72a046542844e-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me04.mx.aol.com (rly-me04.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.38]) by air-me04.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINME041-9ad49bac9ba4c; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 17:02:07 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me04.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME041-9ad49bac9ba4c; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 17:01:50 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LiEVS-0005H4-Lw for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 21:01:26 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LiEVS-0005Gv-1u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 21:01:26 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.152]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LiEVP-0000f3-83 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 21:01:26 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3426.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 6F5911C00085 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 22:01:17 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.110.92.90]) by mwinf3426.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id E55631C00083 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 22:01:16 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20090313210116939.E55631C00083@mwinf3426.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <6B0A0CA1E91F4B768C0B49F4287EC0F8@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 21:01:15 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8064.206 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8064.206 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Multi-function beacon Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0059_01C9A41E.D96AA970" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0059_01C9A41E.D96AA970 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Andy, Just a note, the latest plots are listed on :- http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/propagation Andy - KU4XR is also setting up to night=20 Tnx - G ..=20 From: Andy Talbot=20 Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 10:57 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org ; uk_beacons@yahoogroups.com=20 Subject: LF: Re: Multi-function beacon Just a reminder to all - this beacon is still going, and will probably conti= nue to do so until further notice. A few listeners have downloaded the sof= tware, and thanks to all (you know who your are :-) for the plots / listings= . I am not in a position to compile them, so don't expect revelations, but= Gerhard / DK6NI has been monitoring pretty well continuously, and has plo= tted some deep fades / enhancements measured over hours with depths in the r= egions of 30dB. Are there any stations in the US in a position to monitor ? =20 Please note that if using the recommended 5meg beacon monitoring software yo= u'll either have to set the delta time to -240 (or -180 or -120) seconds or=20= adjust the PC clock by two, three or four minutes to cope with the four minu= te offset I'm running it on. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com =20 2009/3/6 Andy Talbot I've now started transmitting a timed beacon signal on 503.7kHz that is i= dentical in format to that of GB3SSS operated over the winter months of the=20= last two years from Poldhu on 1.9 and 3.5MHz, and has a similar signal str= ucture to the 5MHz beacons, GB3RAL, WES and ORK. These all have an initial=20= CW ident and stepped power levels for aural reception, and a precisely defin= ed period of full-power plain carrier for S/N measurements. =20 See http://www.rsgb-spectrumforum.org.uk/5mhz%20beacons.htm for the com= plete 5MHz signal structure. For this MF transmission, as on GB3SSS, the p= ulsed sounder sequence of the 5MHz beacons is replaced with a PSK31 message=20= which lasts from 30s to approx 48 seconds after the start Auto Monitoring software writen by G3PLX is available for monitoring these= beacons, it measures signal to noise during the carrier period and saves to= file as well as plotting the last 40 hours worth of measurements. The software can be downloaded from http://www.rsgb.org/spectrumforum/hf/= beaconauto.php . PSK31 data can be copied with Digipan, Fldigi, PSK31SBW o= r a host of other packages. TIMING=20 The 503.7kHz transmission takes place every 15 minutes at 4 minutes past t= he quarter hour. =20 ie each transmission starts at xx:04, xx:19, xx:34 and xx:49 This time=20= slot has been selected so that the transmission do not interfere with my con= tinuous ongoing reception of the 5Mhz beacons - the active antenna used for=20= these is overloaded by the 500kHz signal and I have already lost data when t= he WSPR beacon transmission coincided with one of the monitoring windows. NOTE If using the G3PLX software, this only monitors for the three 5MHz=20= beacons at 00, 01 and 02 minutes. SO IT WILL BE NECESSARY TO FRIG THE SOFTWARE to monitor this transmission= at the 04 minute point. The necessary alteration can be done by firstly s= etting your PC clock accurately to the correct time, then setting the Track=20= Time box to -240 (minus 240 seconds). This will make the software look for=20= this transmission during the time window it thinks it would be receiving GB3= RAL, and log the MF transmission during the first minute, on the red trace,=20= as if it were GB3RAL=20 The beacon uses the identical hardware to the WSPR transmissions of the la= st few weeks, with the the only change being a reprogramming of the controll= er PIC. In fact the very same hardware was previously loaned to the Poldhu= club for their beacons, with the only difference being a change to the fina= l Low Pass filter on the output of the broadband PA. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.13/1999 - Release Date: 03/13/09 0= 5:59:00 ------=_NextPart_000_0059_01C9A41E.D96AA970 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
Andy,
 
Just a note, the latest plots  ar= e listed=20 on :-
 
 
 
Andy - KU4XR  is also setting up to night
 
Tnx - G ..
 
 

Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 10:57 AM
Subject: LF: Re: Multi-function beacon

Just a reminder to all - this beacon is still going, and will probably=20 continue to do so until further notice.   A few listeners have=20 downloaded the software, and thanks to all (you know who your are :-) for th= e=20 plots / listings.   I am not in a position to compile them, so don= 't=20 expect revelations, but Gerhard  /  DK6NI has been monitoring pret= ty=20 well continuously, and has plotted some deep fades / enhancements=20 measured over hours with depths in the regions of 30dB.
 
Are there any stations in the US in a position to monitor=20 ?  
 
Please note that if using the recommended 5meg beacon monitoring softwa= re=20 you'll either have to set the delta time to -240 (or -180 or -120) seconds o= r=20 adjust the PC clock by two, three or four minutes to cope with the four minu= te=20 offset I'm running it on.
 
Andy  G4JNT
2009/3/6 Andy Talbot <andy.g4jnt@googlemai= l.com>
I've now started transmitting a timed  beacon signal on=20 503.7kHz that is identical in format to that of GB3SSS operated over=20= the=20 winter months of the last two years  from Poldhu on 1.9 and 3.5M= Hz,=20  and has a similar signal structure to the 5MHz beacons, GB3RAL,= WES=20 and ORK.  These all have an initial CW ident and stepped po= wer=20 levels for aural reception, and a precisely defined period of full-po= wer=20 plain carrier for S/N measurements.  
See   http://www.rsgb-spectrumforum.org.uk/= 5mhz%20beacons.htm =20 for the complete 5MHz  signal structure.  For this MF=20 transmission, as on GB3SSS, the pulsed sounder sequence of the 5MHz beacon= s is=20 replaced with a PSK31 message which lasts from 30s to approx 48 secon= ds=20 after the start
 
Auto Monitoring software writen by G3PLX is available for monitoring=20 these beacons, it measures signal to noise during the carrier period and s= aves=20 to file as well as plotting the last 40 hours worth of measurements.
The software can be downloaded from  http://www.rsgb= .org/spectrumforum/hf/beaconauto.php .  =20 PSK31 data can be copied with Digipan, Fldigi, PSK31SBW or a host of other= =20 packages.
 
TIMING
The 503.7kHz transmission takes place every 15 minutes at 4 minutes p= ast=20 the quarter hour. 
ie each transmission starts at xx:04, xx:19, xx:34 and=20 xx:49    This time slot has been selected so=20= that=20 the transmission do not interfere with my continuous ongoing reception of=20= the=20 5Mhz beacons - the active antenna used for these is overloaded by the 500k= Hz=20 signal and I have already lost data when the WSPR beacon transmission=20 coincided with one of the monitoring windows.
 
NOTE   If using the G3PLX software, this=20 only monitors for the three 5MHz beacons at  00, 01 and 02=20 minutes.
SO IT WILL BE NECESSARY TO FRIG THE SOFTWARE=20  to monitor this transmission at the 04 minute=20 point.   The necessary alteration can be done by firstly=20 setting your PC clock accurately to the correct time, then setting th= e=20 Track Time box to -240 (minus 240 seconds).  This will make the softw= are=20 look for this transmission during the time window it thinks it would=20= be=20 receiving GB3RAL, and log the MF transmission during the first minute= , on=20 the red trace, as if it were GB3RAL 
 
The beacon uses the identical hardware to the WSPR transmissions= =20 of the last few weeks, with the the only change being=20 a reprogramming of the controller PIC.   In fact the very s= ame=20 hardware was previously loaned to the Poldhu club for their beacons, with=20= the=20 only difference being a change to the final Low Pass filter on the output=20= of=20 the broadband PA.
 


No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG -=20 www.avg.com
Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.13/1999 - Release=20 Date: 03/13/09 05:59:00
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--Boundary_(ID_89rvNHYu93tZqMKIsBCYJg)-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg02.mx.aol.com (rly-dg02.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.86]) by air-dg07.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDG074-5a649ac7f84115; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 19:53:42 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG021-5a649ac7f84115; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 19:53:35 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LeIiO-0000Qi-0v for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 00:42:32 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LeIiM-0000QZ-QX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 00:42:30 +0000 Received: from mta21.charter.net ([216.33.127.81]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LeIiF-0001H5-JM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 00:42:30 +0000 Received: from imp10 ([10.20.200.10]) by mta21.charter.net (InterMail vM.7.09.01.00 201-2219-108-20080618) with ESMTP id <20090303004157.KAVR7559.mta21.charter.net@imp10>; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 19:41:57 -0500 Received: from [192.168.0.2] ([68.116.200.100]) by imp10 with charter.net id NQhx1b0022AU2w405QhxyJ; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 19:41:57 -0500 Message-ID: <49AC7CD4.8080900@charter.net> Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 19:41:56 -0500 From: John Andrews User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, 600MRG X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: WE2XGR/3 WSPR Monday Night Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) I goofed and posted this from the wrong email address earlier, so it will probably get moderated and posted in a couple of days! Anyway... WE2XGR/3 will be running WSPR again tonight, but on the originally announced 508.500 kHz frequency. Set your dial to 507.0. Start time will be around 2330 UTC, and it will run until 0300 UTC. The call sign on the WSPR screen will be W1TAG. If you see a WE2XGR on your screen, that would be Jay, W1VD. John Andrews, W1TAG / WE2XGR/3 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh10.mx.aol.com (rly-mh10.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.146]) by air-mh04.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMH042-bff49c3d317ca; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 13:32:27 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh10.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH107-bff49c3d317ca; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 13:32:08 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LkiZX-0006WF-KD for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 17:31:55 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LkiZX-0006W6-33 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 17:31:55 +0000 Received: from mail-qy0-f107.google.com ([209.85.221.107]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LkiZV-00025Y-G7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 17:31:55 +0000 Received: by qyk5 with SMTP id 5so1442391qyk.30 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 10:31:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=23YfL7j12LXI0lo7Wjk8HFFq36hpa/Q1D4IMSi6b0rU=; b=mM33SAWhHambLT20fsu96/q2SdMCfb3DONK6zVQKwKNbOstJpllariMymqdGy9AGzx MOLokeyPJh3OJU9AuwPjtnlWLv5mRv6rFp6r/ngaivAapVwo2V4CGnLtktbXacTqHpFO Sc6+bbjXD9S/7dlrpkVH4u96XZB6BN/QS7qlI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=nYhIf5OA5hatOAfbRLgQI7xdiPLr/tBzWy0CYlbrS8fJ2xt1Rw8VSf1cRkYjnHPUfY HEUtgrtvKqzPqKDFsvtoKfpfvgNNENEtXCpeyPSua3sB4DV/ZFI4tr4Foe8qh0j66L/P otBNr0eSNfPADP9HmL1NI5T3Cs1sQSY5blyy0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.28.213 with SMTP id n21mr6021783qac.90.1237570306269; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 10:31:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 12:31:46 -0500 Message-ID: <57a24ca70903201031x676cff07vddb351e103ea2e1a@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Ropex Info? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d248.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Marco, Thank you! --=20 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 12:23 PM, Scholz, Marco wrot= e: > Hello Warren, > I have also a Ropex and will scan the light documentation for you. > The only modification I did was a socket for the xtal, so I can easily cha= nge the frequency. I have anyway the top cover removed, because with an addi= tional big fan I can ran QRSS60. Without I think QRSS3 is the maximum. > I also need a low pass filter in front off my loading coil as described on= the great website http://wireless.org.uk/ropex.htm > > Vy73 > Marco > DD7PC > > > ----- Originalnachricht ----- > Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > An: rsgb_lf_group > Gesendet: Fri Mar 20 16:51:34 2009 > Betreff: LF: Ropex Info? > > Hello the list, > > =A0 =A0 I have just acquired a Ropex "The First" transmitter for 136kHz - > but without documentation of any kind. > I know that Ropex did not supply anything more than a single sheet of > instructions but I'm lacking even that. > Questions: > 1) Anyone have a copy of the instruction sheet that they could copy or sca= n? > 2) Any info on mods (injecting an external vfo for example)? > 3) Anybody do any 'reverse engineering' of the circuit? > > Any info at all is much appreciated! > > -- > 73 Warren K2ORS > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0WD2XGJ > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0WD2XSH/23 > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0WE2XEB/2 > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0WE2XGR/1 > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg08.mx.aol.com (rly-dg08.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.92]) by air-dg07.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDG072-5e649b18df23dd; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 15:56:30 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg08.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG085-5e649b18df23dd; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 15:56:20 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lfh5Y-0001JF-KY for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 20:56:12 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lfh5Y-0001J6-7m for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 20:56:12 +0000 Received: from mail6.ssmb.com ([199.67.203.180] helo=mail.citigroup.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lfh5X-0002wo-4O for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 20:56:12 +0000 Received: from imbarc-eu02.eur.nsroot.net (imbarc-eu02 [169.186.216.28]) by imbaspam-eu02.eur.nsroot.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/SSMB_EXT/ev: 22534 $) with ESMTP id n26Ku3Mv014267 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 20:56:04 GMT Received: from mailhub-dc1.eu.ssmb.com (mailhub-dc1.eu.ssmb.com [169.186.145.234]) by imbarc-eu02.eur.nsroot.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/SSMB_QQQ_IN/1.1) with ESMTP id n26KtsjX019573 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 20:55:54 GMT Received: from exuksm01.eur.nsroot.net (exuksm01.eur.nsroot.net [169.183.20.152]) by mailhub-dc1.eu.ssmb.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/CG_HUB) with ESMTP id n26Ktl3C014071 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 20:55:47 GMT Received: from exukmb49.eur.nsroot.net ([169.183.32.64]) by exuksm01.eur.nsroot.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Fri, 6 Mar 2009 20:55:47 +0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6619.12 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 20:55:46 -0000 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Looking for HF to LF-Transverter, ... ? Thread-Index: AcmenexW1JcTfI4vT4O+bBtK7iJKjg== From: "Scholz, Marco " To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Mar 2009 20:55:47.0328 (UTC) FILETIME=[EC991800:01C99E9D] X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 169.186.247.38 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: LF: Looking for HF to LF-Transverter, ... ? X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Dear LF-Group, sorry for bandwidth, i looking for some sort of of mixer/transverter to use a shortwave transceiver on 137KHz for WSPR. Can be in experimental stage, but i need something to start. To build something from scratch is a bit a challenge for me, so i thought i ask around. Maybe someone has to sell some parts? If yes, please send me a mail to dd7pc@gmx.de Many thanks, vy73 Marco DD7PC From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg08.mx.aol.com (rly-dg08.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.92]) by air-dg06.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDG061-5e649ac4ff914b; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:30:51 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg08.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG085-5e649ac4ff914b; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:30:36 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LeFiK-0007K3-7i for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 21:30:16 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LeFiJ-0007Ju-P8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 21:30:15 +0000 Received: from psmtp31.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.33]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LeFiI-0000Pz-S6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 21:30:15 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp31.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KFW00EPEEE8DC@psmtp31.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 22:30:09 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 22:29:58 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <6C8D5C4DCEEE438D97DFCB21FA79853A@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: AGC 02-03.jpg Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_RM99QyDc7/SuNVD9htNBeQ)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_RM99QyDc7/SuNVD9htNBeQ) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_/aV2VJ8CKSVJWlQ055MTew)" --Boundary_(ID_/aV2VJ8CKSVJWlQ055MTew) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Hi Lf, capture AGC Henny cpm 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: AGC 02-03.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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Hi Lf,
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Henny cpm
73s
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2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hello Lubos, LF, OK0EMW this evening audible in Moscow, 549. 73 Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf09.mx.aol.com (rly-mf09.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.179]) by air-mf10.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMF102-98149cbfbd8282; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 18:04:14 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf09.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF097-98149cbfbd8282; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 18:04:10 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 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(VPS 090216-1, 02/16/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Z-USANET-MsgId: XID319NcZwDm7872X39 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Lazy Man's CW made it to Venus and back Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Alberto di Bene wrote: > the meaning of the English saying of "throwing pearls to the porks".... Or perhaps it is "throwing pearls to the pigs", but the meaning does not change... 73 Alberto I2PHD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma03.mx.aol.com (rly-ma03.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.47]) by air-ma08.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMA082-89c49beac6e355; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 15:46:05 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma03.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA036-89c49beac6e355; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 15:45:52 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LjIkQ-0005h1-NI for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 19:45:18 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LjIkQ-0005gs-3A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 19:45:18 +0000 Received: from smtp819.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([77.238.189.19]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LjIkO-0005Ee-C4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 19:45:18 +0000 Received: (qmail 47489 invoked from network); 16 Mar 2009 19:38:31 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=SGymqGM099+Xg+K60+bO0OKG7MBr6tfJrDgC5ATPX6bRYH6vJOY7gAk4FiStpSuVPc1/N85+3fV+9VS9zbAjeUqtyvvetJ8KeeCkHPPH4AKkWnnHVegDffIcCovtPNUHAJkTcsyu4e0ymSz+kYF3N/O87IPA46entVSlatkivWw= ; Received: from unknown (HELO Lark) (alan.melia@213.122.53.95 with login) by smtp819.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Mar 2009 19:38:29 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: ePZ.5pIVM1n5lHYKxTUGLH_NbAU6r56iI.1Q4Qe8Pvsbq7cniuT4kWp4efwD85JC0KyD2TbaYAIob1nWghpLdMIMr2XObk7rIGrPQ.mg2IiXIRk2V8Qlr7A3nt.woTP1HUJ9R9V2fio3a7MXzNVv9d3divT3BwCf3KAGXIc_5MXNvAKPDmdV2aF9Dv9nVhcI9vvlj9ad0RXq9YcFvhhE3ufqzQ-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <00be01c9a66e$c8bfdbc0$0900a8c0@AM> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <009001c9a588$7eb02c60$6401a8c0@asus> <00e001c9a5a7$f07216a0$6401a8c0@asus> <826BA6086575402A8C87062492069F5A@AGB> <004501c9a623$a4bf81d0$6401a8c0@asus> <2ED02F4327204E3C903828F9E18AA72B@AGB> <001e01c9a665$ebeac870$6401a8c0@asus> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 19:38:11 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Gary my only comment is that you may have too much gain in the system. It is sometimes better to have the noise further down nearer the axis. I am afraid there is a major problem with this kind of beacon, when the fading period is shorter than the sampling interval, so you dont really know what the path is doing. The only reliable points are the peaks, the troughs dont really mean anything without some very sophisticated analysis and probably two spaced receivers. However it does give a snapshot of the band without taking up too much bandwidth (this was what was required for 5MHz too). Despite all the data collected very little analysis has actually be done on the 5MHz data collected by this program. The one succesfull bit of work was that published in Radcom by Marcis Walden G0IJZ. I used it for some time whilst Andy was testing the Poldhu beacon on 160m and also during the 1st two months that ran. I was certainly surprised by the daytime path on 160m from here. I have seen the data collected in Canada via Joe Craig VO1NA and it is difficult to see how to use it. Still if you dont collect the data you will never know!! Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 6:35 PM Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software > Hi Graham, LF, > > > > The original HTML Code for the 2 minute refresh is still inserted into the > page format, so upload is 30 minute intervals with Syncback & 2 minute > refresh. I have left the refresh in case I revert back to the original > grabber page. I will look at changing it if I continue to use the beacon > chart upload. > > > > I would like to have feedback from the LF group regarding the page, if you > check it out periodically, is it useful to you, what are you looking for. > > > > You can view the chart on my web site at :- > > > > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html > > > > 73 > > > > Gary - G4WGT. > > > > > > _____ > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham > Sent: 16 March 2009 17:20 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > Hi Gary, > > > > The page seemed to refresh quite often ... are there two settings ? > > > > G .. > > > > From: Gary - G4WGT > > Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:40 AM > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > Hi Graham, LF, > > > > You wrote :- > > >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute > intervals. <<< that could be backed off to 15 mins as the beacon only > sends every 15 ?? > > > > I mentioned in my previous mail to ignore the text on the page as it was > originally for grabber 1 for when I upgrade the web site (to a new design & > better navigation etc), also mentioned is that upload is every 30 minutes. > > > > If the uploaded chart proves useful or interesting to operators & viewers > then I will change the text & make it a permanent feature for the > foreseeable future. > > > > BTW :- > > > > For those of you who are not familiar with the chart - > > > > The RED trace is Andy's (G4JNT) beacon signal & the BLACK trace is the noise > level at my QTH. > > > > The Blue & GREEN are not in use & should be ignored on this chart as they > are for the other beacons used when monitoring on the 5MHz allocation. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Gary - G4WGT > > > > > > _____ > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham > Sent: 15 March 2009 22:17 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > Gary.. > > > > That looks good ... 0500 looks best time for a qso .. see you then Smile > emoticon > > > > >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute > intervals. <<< that could be backed off to 15 mins as the beacon only > sends every 15 ?? > > > > the 15 db over the noise in day time is the same at this qth .. looks like > the big dips round 1900 where just when we where testing .. typical hihi > > > > tnx- G .. > > > > From: Gary - G4WGT > > Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 7:55 PM > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > Subject: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > LF, > > > > I have now got the software, Syncback running correctly (I think). > > > > The purpose of this is to upload the chart from Andy's beacon as received > here to my web site periodically, ie. every 30 minutes. > > > > I now have a receiver running 24/7 monitoring Andy,s beacon on 503.7KHz. > > > > You can view the chart on my web site at :- > > > > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html > > > > For the moment ignore the text on the page as it is originally designed to > use with the 500KHz grabber when I renew my web site design. If it is a > useful upload I will make it a permanent feature but may have to extend the > frequency coverage of grabber 1 so not to overload the PC with operations > which will cause the PC to struggle. > > > > Let me have your comments please. > > > > 73 > > > > Gary - G4WGT. > > > > _____ > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT > Sent: 15 March 2009 16:10 > To: LF -RSGB LF Group > Subject: LF: Syncback software > > > > Hi LF, > > > > If anyone is using Syncback software & can help, please. > > > > I am tying to upload a file to my website who's filename does not change, > only the file size changes. I tried to do it with Argo-upload but failed so > I downloaded Syncback & still failing. > > > > Syncback gives me the following message :- > > > > ********************************** > > Can connect, but unable to change to destination directory: > > /chart01.bmp:not a directory > > ********************************** > > The Syncback help does not give me the answer. > > > > Any help will be appreciated > > > > Or > > > > Will Argo-Upload do it? > > > > Or > > > > Is there something else to do it? > > > > Thanks in anticipation, > > > > 73, > > > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. > > > > _____ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.13/2001 - Release Date: 03/14/09 > 06:54:00 > > _____ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.15/2003 - Release Date: 03/15/09 > 14:07:00 > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df04.mx.aol.com (rly-df04.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.17]) by air-df06.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDF064-54349c4326731e; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 20:19:00 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df04.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF042-54349c4326731e; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 20:18:49 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lkov4-0003Uv-Eu for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 00:18:34 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lkov4-0003Um-32 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 00:18:34 +0000 Received: from mailout02.t-online.de ([194.25.134.17]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lkov1-0005xp-1K for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 00:18:34 +0000 Received: from fwd04.aul.t-online.de by mailout02.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 1Lkoux-0003xQ-00; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 01:18:27 +0100 Received: from [192.168.2.22] (ZYPkkBZEZhzJ0uTzkbW2mJh4EwNqGok1o0vyXcHgli7XU+VYVAS8FC3Dlp0KtiGwxM@[93.196.39.90]) by fwd04.t-online.de with esmtp id 1Lkouw-0zh0Ii0; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 01:18:26 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de To: X-Mailer: T-Online eMail 6.07.0001 Date: 21 Mar 2009 00:16 GMT Message-ID: <1Lkouw-0zh0Ii0@fwd04.t-online.de> X-ID: ZYPkkBZEZhzJ0uTzkbW2mJh4EwNqGok1o0vyXcHgli7XU+VYVAS8FC3Dlp0KtiGwxM X-TOI-MSGID: 23b1e997-ea79-408a-806b-eb7dd19d83b7 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Ropex Info? Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Lbr Klaus, auf der RSGB-Seite tauchten nach einer Anfrage folgende Adressen zu Unterlagen über den Ropex auf. Ich habe sie hier alle hineinkopiert. http://homepage.ntlworld.com/mike.dennison/index/lf//ropex/ http://dd7pc.qsl.nu/dd7pc_137khz_files/ropex_schematic_01.jpg and http://dd7pc.qsl.nu/dd7pc_137khz_files/ropex_schematic_02.jpg http://wireless.org.uk/ropex.htm http://lf.apersonalguide.co.uk/ropex Von unserer Kreuzfahrt sind wir wohlbehalten zurück. Sonst nichts Neues. 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB > > Mike > WE0H > > > > Mike D wrote: > > I have posted the documents at: > > > > http://:lf.apersonalguide.co.uk/ropex > > > > Mike, G3XDV > > ========== > > > > > >> I have just acquired a Ropex "The First" transmitter for 136kHz - > >> but without documentation of any kind. I know that Ropex did not > >> supply anything more than a single sheet of instructions but I'm > >> lacking even that. Questions: 1) Anyone have a copy of the instruction > >> sheet that they could copy or scan? 2) Any info on mods (injecting an > >> external vfo for example)? 3) Anybody do any 'reverse engineering' of > >> the circuit? > >> > >> Any info at all is much appreciated! > >> > >> -- > >> 73 Warren K2ORS > >> WD2XGJ > >> WD2XSH/23 > >> WE2XEB/2 > >> WE2XGR/1 > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh04.mx.aol.com (rly-mh04.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.140]) by air-mh08.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMH081-bc949c118c114f; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 11:53:03 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh04.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH041-bc949c118c114f; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 11:52:35 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ljy40-0007pT-Or for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 15:52:16 +0000 Received: from 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88-106-59-96.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.59.96]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 16 Mar 2009 20:17:09 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <009001c9a588$7eb02c60$6401a8c0@asus> <00e001c9a5a7$f07216a0$6401a8c0@asus> <826BA6086575402A8C87062492069F5A@AGB> <004501c9a623$a4bf81d0$6401a8c0@asus> <2ED02F4327204E3C903828F9E18AA72B@AGB> <001e01c9a665$ebeac870$6401a8c0@asus> <00be01c9a66e$c8bfdbc0$0900a8c0@AM> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 20:17:09 -0000 Message-ID: <003901c9a674$2f94d530$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <00be01c9a66e$c8bfdbc0$0900a8c0@AM> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AcmmcDJ3Eyo2Ce0jRBSn2vvecaueYAAAt6cg X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Alan, All comments noted. This type of beaconing is new to me, I did not participate in the 5MHz beacon other than just have a look using the software for a short while when it was first introduced. Now it is in use on 500KHz then it has become a more serious subject for me. Uploading the chart is my first contribution to hopefully enhance Andy's efforts. A problem with doing this is that it puts limitations on other operations in the shack, mainly transmitting, although there are 12 minute periods for that even. I hope that the chart can be made use of in this way. Gary - G4WGT. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Alan Melia Sent: 16 March 2009 19:38 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software Hi Gary my only comment is that you may have too much gain in the system. It is sometimes better to have the noise further down nearer the axis. I am afraid there is a major problem with this kind of beacon, when the fading period is shorter than the sampling interval, so you dont really know what the path is doing. The only reliable points are the peaks, the troughs dont really mean anything without some very sophisticated analysis and probably two spaced receivers. However it does give a snapshot of the band without taking up too much bandwidth (this was what was required for 5MHz too). Despite all the data collected very little analysis has actually be done on the 5MHz data collected by this program. The one succesfull bit of work was that published in Radcom by Marcis Walden G0IJZ. I used it for some time whilst Andy was testing the Poldhu beacon on 160m and also during the 1st two months that ran. I was certainly surprised by the daytime path on 160m from here. I have seen the data collected in Canada via Joe Craig VO1NA and it is difficult to see how to use it. Still if you dont collect the data you will never know!! Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 6:35 PM Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software > Hi Graham, LF, > > > > The original HTML Code for the 2 minute refresh is still inserted into the > page format, so upload is 30 minute intervals with Syncback & 2 minute > refresh. I have left the refresh in case I revert back to the original > grabber page. I will look at changing it if I continue to use the beacon > chart upload. > > > > I would like to have feedback from the LF group regarding the page, if you > check it out periodically, is it useful to you, what are you looking for. > > > > You can view the chart on my web site at :- > > > > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html > > > > 73 > > > > Gary - G4WGT. > > > > > > _____ > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham > Sent: 16 March 2009 17:20 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > Hi Gary, > > > > The page seemed to refresh quite often ... are there two settings ? > > > > G .. > > > > From: Gary - G4WGT > > Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:40 AM > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > Hi Graham, LF, > > > > You wrote :- > > >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute > intervals. <<< that could be backed off to 15 mins as the beacon only > sends every 15 ?? > > > > I mentioned in my previous mail to ignore the text on the page as it was > originally for grabber 1 for when I upgrade the web site (to a new design & > better navigation etc), also mentioned is that upload is every 30 minutes. > > > > If the uploaded chart proves useful or interesting to operators & viewers > then I will change the text & make it a permanent feature for the > foreseeable future. > > > > BTW :- > > > > For those of you who are not familiar with the chart - > > > > The RED trace is Andy's (G4JNT) beacon signal & the BLACK trace is the noise > level at my QTH. > > > > The Blue & GREEN are not in use & should be ignored on this chart as they > are for the other beacons used when monitoring on the 5MHz allocation. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Gary - G4WGT > > > > > > _____ > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham > Sent: 15 March 2009 22:17 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > Gary.. > > > > That looks good ... 0500 looks best time for a qso .. see you then Smile > emoticon > > > > >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute > intervals. <<< that could be backed off to 15 mins as the beacon only > sends every 15 ?? > > > > the 15 db over the noise in day time is the same at this qth .. looks like > the big dips round 1900 where just when we where testing .. typical hihi > > > > tnx- G .. > > > > From: Gary - G4WGT > > Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 7:55 PM > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > Subject: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > LF, > > > > I have now got the software, Syncback running correctly (I think). > > > > The purpose of this is to upload the chart from Andy's beacon as received > here to my web site periodically, ie. every 30 minutes. > > > > I now have a receiver running 24/7 monitoring Andy,s beacon on 503.7KHz. > > > > You can view the chart on my web site at :- > > > > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html > > > > For the moment ignore the text on the page as it is originally designed to > use with the 500KHz grabber when I renew my web site design. If it is a > useful upload I will make it a permanent feature but may have to extend the > frequency coverage of grabber 1 so not to overload the PC with operations > which will cause the PC to struggle. > > > > Let me have your comments please. > > > > 73 > > > > Gary - G4WGT. > > > > _____ > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT > Sent: 15 March 2009 16:10 > To: LF -RSGB LF Group > Subject: LF: Syncback software > > > > Hi LF, > > > > If anyone is using Syncback software & can help, please. > > > > I am tying to upload a file to my website who's filename does not change, > only the file size changes. I tried to do it with Argo-upload but failed so > I downloaded Syncback & still failing. > > > > Syncback gives me the following message :- > > > > ********************************** > > Can connect, but unable to change to destination directory: > > /chart01.bmp:not a directory > > ********************************** > > The Syncback help does not give me the answer. > > > > Any help will be appreciated > > > > Or > > > > Will Argo-Upload do it? > > > > Or > > > > Is there something else to do it? > > > > Thanks in anticipation, > > > > 73, > > > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. > > > > _____ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.13/2001 - Release Date: 03/14/09 > 06:54:00 > > _____ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.15/2003 - Release Date: 03/15/09 > 14:07:00 > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd03.mx.aol.com (rly-dd03.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.150]) by air-dd07.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDD074-b6949ac0c7c352; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 11:42:44 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd03.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD033-b6949ac0c7c352; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 11:42:38 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LeBDg-0004jm-RH for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:42:20 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LeBDg-0004jd-GV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:42:20 +0000 Received: from simone.ucs.mun.ca ([134.153.232.77]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LeBDf-00064X-6w for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:42:20 +0000 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.232.153]) by simone.ucs.mun.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n22Gg96Z024117 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 13:12:09 -0330 Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 13:12:09 -0330 (NST) From: jcraig@mun.ca X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: blacksheep In-Reply-To: <0FD81C970D1F4740A80463DB2680F696@ns94d01ae4d850> Message-ID: References: <0FD81C970D1F4740A80463DB2680F696@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: 184khz QRT again! Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Thanks to Henny, Jean-Pierre, Victor and Willem for the recent reports. As a result of an ice storm last night, the antenna is on the ground again. 73 Joe VO1NA On Sun, 1 Mar 2009, henny van elst wrote: > Hi Joe,lf > nil on the screen > henny cpm > best 73s > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db08.mx.aol.com (rly-db08.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.83]) by air-db04.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDB043-adc49b8cbaa3e1; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 04:45:44 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db08.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB082-adc49b8cbaa3e1; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 04:45:32 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LhgWz-0000s8-JJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 08:44:45 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LhgWz-0000rz-3X for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 08:44:45 +0000 Received: from ttsmtp-2.cpwnetworks.com ([62.24.128.243] helo=ttsmtp.cpwnetworks.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LhgWw-0001HL-TF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 08:44:45 +0000 X-Path: TalkTalk-smtp X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AiYGAONouElOlT93/2dsb2JhbACCIy6BaIcJBscbhA0G Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.149.63.119]) by ttsmtp.cpwnetworks.com with SMTP; 12 Mar 2009 08:44:36 +0000 Message-ID: <000c01c9a2ee$c5dd4a60$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <5931f8db0903110410h410cd7c3k4fd09b74b8ae0ad5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 08:44:35 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: 137KHz reports please Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01C9A2EE.C557C6B0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C9A2EE.C557C6B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Harry I will be active on Saturday morning on CW and will look out for you. de mal/g3kev =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Harry Woodhouse=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 11:10 AM Subject: LF: 137KHz reports please I hope to transmit QRSS3 on 137.68 KHz on Saturday mornings March 21 & 28.= Depends on weather here in Cornwall - I live on the coast and have to erect= a temporary mast. Using Decca Tx from Isles of Scilly running 825 watts inp= ut to a Marconi T 230 feet long 30 feet up. Lazy Loop for Rx. Started on 72=20= KHz in 1998, reached well into Devon, but nobody there so no contacts! On 13= 6 have only had QSOs with G3YXM, F6BWO, G3XDV & G3WCB. I am 79 and strugglin= g! Would be delighted to make more contacts, but please be patient with me,=20= I keep doing stupid things! Regards, Harry G3MFW ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.9/1993 - Release Date: 03/10/09=20= 07:19:00 ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C9A2EE.C557C6B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Harry
I will be active on Saturday morning on CW=20= and=20 will look out for you.
de mal/g3kev
 
----- Original Message -----
Harry Woodhouse
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 11:= 10=20 AM
Subject: LF: 137KHz reports please<= /DIV>

I hope to transmit QRSS3 on 137.68 KHz on Saturday mornings= =20 March 21 & 28. Depends on weather here in Cornwall - I live on the coa= st=20 and have to erect a temporary mast. Using Decca Tx from Isles of Scilly=20 running 825 watts input to a Marconi T 230 feet long 30 feet up. Lazy Loop= for=20 Rx. Started on 72 KHz in 1998, reached well into Devon, but nobody there s= o no=20 contacts! On 136 have only had QSOs with G3YXM, F6BWO, G3XDV & G3WCB.=20= I am=20 79 and struggling! Would be delighted to make more contacts, but please be= =20 patient with me, I keep doing stupid=20 things!
          &nb= sp;            =20 Regards, Harry G3MFW


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------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C9A2EE.C557C6B0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db09.mx.aol.com (rly-db09.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.84]) by air-db09.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDB091-ae649b1188e142; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 07:35:40 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db09.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB094-ae649b1188e142; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 07:35:30 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LfZGP-000337-P6 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 12:34:53 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LfZGM-00032y-SJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 12:34:50 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.151] helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LfZGL-0006yt-4p for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 12:34:50 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3503.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id C1B7A7000084 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 13:34:43 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.23.203]) by mwinf3503.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 4AAE67000081 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 13:34:43 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20090306123443305.4AAE67000081@mwinf3503.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <0566EF6DE20B4249A3E74859BF9BA2C6@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 12:34:42 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8064.206 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8064.206 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Multi-function beacon Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002E_01C99E57.ECA37B10" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_002E_01C99E57.ECA37B10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Andy, Quick Q .. is the reception software capable of auto reporting to the 5 me= g group ? I have an idea it has this facility .or at least produces a -5 meg- report=20= file . if so can it be turned off ? G ..=20 From: Andy Talbot=20 Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 11:03 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Cc: jfell@tesco.net=20 Subject: LF: Multi-function beacon I've now started transmitting a timed beacon signal on 503.7kHz that is ide= ntical in format to that of GB3SSS operated over the winter months of the la= st two years from Poldhu on 1.9 and 3.5MHz, and has a similar signal struc= ture to the 5MHz beacons, GB3RAL, WES and ORK. These all have an initial CW= ident and stepped power levels for aural reception, and a precisely defined= period of full-power plain carrier for S/N measurements. =20 See http://www.rsgb-spectrumforum.org.uk/5mhz%20beacons.htm for the compl= ete 5MHz signal structure. For this MF transmission, as on GB3SSS, the pul= sed sounder sequence of the 5MHz beacons is replaced with a PSK31 message wh= ich lasts from 30s to approx 48 seconds after the start Auto Monitoring software writen by G3PLX is available for monitoring these b= eacons, it measures signal to noise during the carrier period and saves to f= ile as well as plotting the last 40 hours worth of measurements. The software can be downloaded from http://www.rsgb.org/spectrumforum/hf/be= aconauto.php . PSK31 data can be copied with Digipan, Fldigi, PSK31SBW or=20= a host of other packages. TIMING=20 The 503.7kHz transmission takes place every 15 minutes at 4 minutes past the= quarter hour. =20 ie each transmission starts at xx:04, xx:19, xx:34 and xx:49 This time sl= ot has been selected so that the transmission do not interfere with my conti= nuous ongoing reception of the 5Mhz beacons - the active antenna used for th= ese is overloaded by the 500kHz signal and I have already lost data when the= WSPR beacon transmission coincided with one of the monitoring windows. NOTE If using the G3PLX software, this only monitors for the three 5MHz be= acons at 00, 01 and 02 minutes. SO IT WILL BE NECESSARY TO FRIG THE SOFTWARE to monitor this transmission a= t the 04 minute point. The necessary alteration can be done by firstly set= ting your PC clock accurately to the correct time, then setting the Track Ti= me box to -240 (minus 240 seconds). This will make the software look for th= is transmission during the time window it thinks it would be receiving GB3RA= L, and log the MF transmission during the first minute, on the red trace, as= if it were GB3RAL=20 The beacon uses the identical hardware to the WSPR transmissions of the last= few weeks, with the the only change being a reprogramming of the controller= PIC. In fact the very same hardware was previously loaned to the Poldhu c= lub for their beacons, with the only difference being a change to the final=20= Low Pass filter on the output of the broadband PA. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.8/1985 - Release Date: 03/05/09 07= :54:00 ------=_NextPart_000_002E_01C99E57.ECA37B10 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Andy,
 
Quick Q .. is the  reception software=20= capable=20 of auto reporting to the  5 meg group ?
 
I have an idea it has this  facility .= or at=20 least produces a -5 meg- report file . if so can it be turned off=20 ?
 
 
G ..

Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 11:03 AM
Subject: LF: Multi-function beacon

I've now started transmitting a timed  beacon signal on 503.7= kHz=20 that is identical in format to that of GB3SSS operated over the winter=20 months of the last two years  from Poldhu on 1.9 and 3.5MHz,  = ;and=20 has a similar signal structure to the 5MHz beacons, GB3RAL, WES and=20 ORK.  These all have an initial CW ident and stepped power le= vels=20 for aural reception, and a precisely defined period of full-power plain= =20 carrier for S/N measurements.  
See   http://www.rsgb-spectrumforum.org.uk/5mhz%20beacons.htm&n= bsp;=20 for the complete 5MHz  signal structure.  For this MF=20 transmission, as on GB3SSS, the pulsed sounder sequence of the 5MHz beacons=20= is=20 replaced with a PSK31 message which lasts from 30s to approx 48 seconds= =20 after the start
 
Auto Monitoring software writen by G3PLX is available for monitoring th= ese=20 beacons, it measures signal to noise during the carrier period and saves to=20= file=20 as well as plotting the last 40 hours worth of measurements.
The software can be downloaded from  http://www.rsgb.org/spectrumforum/hf/be= aconauto.php .  =20 PSK31 data can be copied with Digipan, Fldigi, PSK31SBW or a host of other=20 packages.
 
TIMING
The 503.7kHz transmission takes place every 15 minutes at 4 minutes pas= t=20 the quarter hour. 
ie each transmission starts at xx:04, xx:19, xx:34 and=20 xx:49    This time slot has been selected so th= at=20 the transmission do not interfere with my continuous ongoing reception of th= e=20 5Mhz beacons - the active antenna used for these is overloaded by the 500kHz= =20 signal and I have already lost data when the WSPR beacon transmission coinci= ded=20 with one of the monitoring windows.
 
NOTE   If using the G3PLX software, this only monit= ors=20 for the three 5MHz beacons at  00, 01 and 02 minutes.
SO IT WILL BE NECESSARY TO FRIG THE SOFTWARE=20  to monitor this transmission at the 04 minute=20 point.   The necessary alteration can be done by firstly=20 setting your PC clock accurately to the correct time, then setting the=20 Track Time box to -240 (minus 240 seconds).  This will make the softwar= e=20 look for this transmission during the time window it thinks it would be= =20 receiving GB3RAL, and log the MF transmission during the first minute,=20= on=20 the red trace, as if it were GB3RAL 
 
The beacon uses the identical hardware to the WSPR transmissions=20 of the last few weeks, with the the only change being a reprogramm= ing=20 of the controller PIC.   In fact the very same hardware was previo= usly=20 loaned to the Poldhu club for their beacons, with the only difference being=20= a=20 change to the final Low Pass filter on the output of the broadband PA.
 
Andy  G4JNT


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------=_NextPart_000_002E_01C99E57.ECA37B10-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df09.mx.aol.com (rly-df09.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.22]) by air-df04.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDF042-57b49ad51d729f; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 10:50:59 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df09.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF098-57b49ad51d729f; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 10:50:51 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LeWsm-0000ee-6e for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 15:50:12 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LeWsl-0000eV-Qo for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 15:50:11 +0000 Received: from mx7.mail.ru ([94.100.176.21]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LeWsk-0005BC-LB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 15:50:11 +0000 Received: from [79.98.8.6] (port=11142 helo=EFREMOV) by mx7.mail.ru with asmtp id 1LeWse-000PTA-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 18:50:04 +0300 X-Nat-Received: 172.16.10.160 Message-ID: <001401c99c17$b87f6f70$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> From: "Andrey rn3agc" To: References: <6C8D5C4DCEEE438D97DFCB21FA79853A@ns94d01ae4d850> Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 15:48:20 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: Ok X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: AGC 02-03.jpg Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Thanks Henny! 73 Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV > Hi Lf, > capture AGC > Henny cpm > 73s > Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: > AGC 02-03.jpg > > Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde > bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df07.mx.aol.com (rly-df07.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.20]) by air-df05.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDF053-56149b271a6314; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 08:08:13 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df07.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF072-56149b271a6314; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 08:07:52 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LfwFY-0004XB-GV for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 13:07:32 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LfwFX-0004X2-Rg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 13:07:31 +0000 Received: from fmmailgate01.web.de ([217.72.192.221]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LfwFW-0004Mq-3i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 13:07:31 +0000 Received: from smtp07.web.de (fmsmtp07.dlan.cinetic.de [172.20.5.215]) by fmmailgate01.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 759E8FE50A40; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 14:07:20 +0100 (CET) Received: from [217.227.69.138] (helo=[192.168.1.101]) by smtp07.web.de with esmtp (WEB.DE 4.110 #277) id 1LfwFH-0000nw-00; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 14:07:15 +0100 Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 14:07:11 +0100 From: Michael Oexner X-Mailer: The Bat! (v2.12.00) Personal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <565395453.20090307140711@web.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org CC: wum.staubach@t-online.de MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: michael.oexner@web.de X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19KjQIdXvogsH3LF6UvFJ7wxp4q7jwy+k3tGuGl au1+ttLpmH5jeE9OZLhEsXt/LF/6zZfanlZkZv7b1XwaeAaicx LKIVrhpiA5EHh7p3IuyQ== X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: DI2AG daytime Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------116173E8111678A5" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=LINES_OF_YELLING autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------------116173E8111678A5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, Copying DI2AG WSPR as shown below: 1038 -33 1.2 0.505088 0 DI2AG JN59 23 1046 -33 1.2 0.505088 0 DI2AG JN59 23 1050 -33 1.2 0.505088 0 DI2AG JN59 23 1056 -33 1.8 0.505087 0 DI2AG JN59 23 1104 -33 1.4 0.505087 0 DI2AG JN59 23 1112 -33 1.4 0.505088 0 DI2AG JN59 23 1120 -33 1.5 0.505088 0 DI2AG JN59 23 1124 -33 1.3 0.505088 0 DI2AG JN59 23 1132 -33 1.5 0.505088 0 DI2AG JN59 23 1140 -33 1.4 0.505088 0 DI2AG JN59 23 1146 -33 1.5 0.505088 0 DI2AG JN59 23 1152 -33 1.4 0.505088 0 DI2AG JN59 23 1158 -33 1.5 0.505088 0 DI2AG JN59 23 1206 -33 1.5 0.505088 0 DI2AG JN59 23 1214 -33 1.6 0.505088 0 DI2AG JN59 23 1230 -33 1.5 0.505088 0 DI2AG JN59 23 1236 -33 1.6 0.505088 0 DI2AG JN59 23 1256 -33 2.0 0.505088 0 DI2AG JN59 23 --=20 vy 73 + gd DX, Michael RX: ICOM R75, SDR-IQ, Perseus Antenna: Wellbrook ALA 1530, Mini-Whip Location: Roschbach, Germany N 49=B015' E 8=B007' / Locator JN49BF Editor of "The European NDB Handbook" & "The North American NDB Handbook" cf. http://lwca.org/miscdocs/oexner/2009NDBinfo.zip ------------116173E8111678A5 Content-Type: image/jpeg; name="DI2AG WSPR 20090307.jpg" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="DI2AG WSPR 20090307.jpg" /9j/4AAQSkZJRgABAQEAYABgAAD//gAfTEVBRCBUZWNobm9sb2dpZXMgSW5jLiBWMS4wMQD/ 2wBDAAYEBQYFBAYGBQYHBwYIChAKCgkJChQODwwQFxQYGBcUFhYaHSUfGhsjHBYWICwgIyYn KSopGR8tMC0oMCUoKSj/2wBDAQcHBwoIChMKChMoGhYaKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgo KCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCj/wAARCACwAiYDASIAAhEBAxEB/8QAHAAA AQQDAQAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAwABAgQFBwgG/8QAWRAAAQMCAwMHCAYHBQMHDAMAAQIDEQAhBBIx BRNBBiJRYXGBoQcUFjKRsdHwFSNUlcHTFyQzNELh8SVScnOiYpLSQ0RFU1WCkyY1NlZjdJSl srXC1GR1hf/EABoBAAMBAQEBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAECAwAEBQb/xAA4EQABAwIEAgkDAwQCAwEA AAABAAIRAyEEEjFBUfAFImFxgaGxwdETMpEUFTMGQuHxFiNSYnKS/9oADAMBAAIRAxEAPwDa +M5W7Kwm0MXglJ2m9iMKsNvea7LxOIShZQlYGZtsicqkmJ40P0y2X9l2/wDcOO/JrwPLrbm0 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(rly-mh02.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.138]) by air-mh06.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMH063-bb949b6eba835c; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 18:37:41 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh02.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH021-bb949b6eba835c; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 18:37:30 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LhAYw-00015w-Dx for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 22:36:38 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LhAYw-00015n-3i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 22:36:38 +0000 Received: from simone.ucs.mun.ca ([134.153.232.77]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LhAYu-0005kL-3l for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 22:36:38 +0000 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.232.153]) by simone.ucs.mun.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n2AMaSxl017185 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 20:06:29 -0230 Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 20:06:29 -0230 (NDT) From: jcraig@mun.ca X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <49B622B9.9070601@online.fr> Message-ID: References: <49B622B9.9070601@online.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: 184khz Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Dear LF Group, The TX will be off starting tonight to monitor G4JNT on 503.7 kHz. 73 Joe VO1NA From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df08.mx.aol.com (rly-df08.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.21]) by air-df01.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDF013-56e49cc0b601bc; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:10:30 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df08.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF085-56e49cc0b601bc; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:10:27 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lmyhm-0005Kx-Kq for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 23:09:46 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lmyhm-0005Ko-9Q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 23:09:46 +0000 Received: from smtp106.prem.mail.sp1.yahoo.com ([98.136.44.61]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lmyhl-0003yU-Ou for 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(we0h@75.168.158.40 with plain) by smtp106.prem.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Mar 2009 23:09:38 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: Iz84ycYVM1kt89okI_xlLgUQNBOGCLQdElTODgMhiu5t0MVk4g8AprJilS7XUtfyj6B.nw0_Z.SW6bm_u5UoQj3ADIGQqwb4nSIkb_hxXMcCbvpW41wk.bgcdC8H07PJy_n6_6FN4c1EHPHsRWpTxkiWhMefkFjIQYswGh3BP4DU8uPsFtHR6DJ6cp8T0A-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <49CC0B28.2080804@yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 18:09:28 -0500 From: Mike-WE0H User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090318) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Re: LF: Lazy Man's CW made it to Venus and back Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Who is gonna have the first QSO via Venus? Mike WE0H Wolf wrote: > Greetings everyone, > > Not really LF, but QRSS... > > A group of radio amateurs from AMSAT-DL has successfully transmitted a (very short) message in QRSS, consisting of the two letters "HI" (im memoriam of old OSCARS) to Venus on 2.4 GHz, and received the reflection. > Each TX/RX over lasted for about 5 minutes (the travelling time). The transmitter was a 5 kW magnetron disciplined to a narrow-band transmitter. Details on the AMSAT-DL website. The German HR TV will send a documentation tonight at 19:30 (local). The EVE (Earth-Venus-Earth) details follow tomorrow on Hessischer Rundfunk. > > 73, > Wolf DL4YHF > (from the IUZ in Bochum) From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh05.mx.aol.com (rly-mh05.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.141]) by air-mh06.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMH064-bd449c51bb02; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 12:54:26 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh05.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH054-bd449c51bb02; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 12:54:11 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ll4Rt-0006ZM-Ld for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 16:53:29 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ll4Rt-0006ZD-6Z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 16:53:29 +0000 Received: from smtp08.online.nl ([194.134.42.53]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ll4Rq-0003vC-Uj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 16:53:29 +0000 Received: from smtp08.online.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp08.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC2C466328 for ; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 17:53:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from pa3fnytrqxpddu (s5593e077.adsl.wanadoo.nl [85.147.224.119]) by smtp08.online.nl (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 17:53:25 +0100 (CET) From: To: "blacksheep" Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 17:53:24 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Importance: Normal X-Online-Scanned: by Cloudmark authority (on smtp08.online.nl) X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: OE5ODL Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0002_01C9AA4D.EE34A100" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com 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SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 20 Mar 2009 02:01:52 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [212.4.140.33] From: Lubos OK2BVG To: Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 10:01:51 +0100 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Mar 2009 09:01:52.0176 (UTC) FILETIME=[82A41B00:01C9A93A] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_2a9e2e56-9809-478f-9386-a8b95963f3a0_" Subject: LF: XGJ X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_2a9e2e56-9809-478f-9386-a8b95963f3a0_ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_382df9aa-a68e-4f96-8b39-d99880854e4d_" --_382df9aa-a68e-4f96-8b39-d99880854e4d_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Warren, LF! I saw nice XGJ signal last night. Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS _________________________________________________________________ Pozvi sv=E9 p=F8=E1tele z Facebooku a Hotmailu do Messengeru! https://www.invite2messenger.net/Default.aspx=3D --_382df9aa-a68e-4f96-8b39-d99880854e4d_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Warren, LF!
I saw nice XGJ signal last night.

Lubos, OK2BVG,= JN88KS

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post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LmXxi-0001p8-3f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 18:36:26 +0000 Received: from smtpa1.mediabeam.com ([194.25.41.13]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LmXxg-0002gA-1q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 18:36:26 +0000 Received: from r300-1 ([194.25.41.40]) by smtpa1.mediabeam.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n2PIbqU3019871 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 19:37:53 +0100 From: "Uwe Jannsen" To: Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 19:36:15 Message-ID: <08BC07D903191224105F@kabelmail.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-PRIORITY: 3 X-Spam-Score: 1.8 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,INVALID_DATE=1.76 Subject: Re: Re: LF: DJ8WX Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=PRIORITY_NO_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Andrey; spring 2008 it was 600 to 800mWERP.=20 I remember several PA MOSFETS exploded because snow or rain detuned the aeri= al. have fun Uwe/dj8wx -------- Kabel E-Mail Reply --------------- From: rn3agc@mail.ru To : rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: 25.03.2009 17:06:05 > ...113mWERP... Uwe, last spring how many was? 73 Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da03.mx.aol.com (rly-da03.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.77]) by air-da04.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDA042-a5949b854d4370; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 20:18:40 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da03.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA031-a5949b854d4370; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 20:18:30 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LhYcn-0005NS-Hy for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 00:18:13 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LhYcn-0005NJ-4F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 00:18:13 +0000 Received: from vms173009pub.verizon.net ([206.46.173.9]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LhYck-0007Cd-NL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 00:18:13 +0000 Received: from DR2 ([71.184.212.10]) by vms173009.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KGD00HG7A5D06A1@vms173009.mailsrvcs.net> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 19:17:38 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <6F5FDD77751E47668B504D68B5A72CE8@DR2> From: "dave.riley3" To: References: <929C5BBFDED6431E8C9F8642D5402094@DR2> Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 19:17:37 -0500 MIME-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: SM6BHZ Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_008C_01C9A27E.09D91350" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.7 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_60_70, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_008C_01C9A27E.09D91350 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Go ahead but all I will see is maybe more power?? ----- Original Message -----=20 From: dave.riley3=20 To: 600MRG=20 Cc: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 6:59 PM Subject: LF: SM6BHZ WSPR loud and clean 504.500 090311 2356 6 -26 1.1 0.504497 SM6BHZ JO57 30 TNX DE /17 ------=_NextPart_000_008C_01C9A27E.09D91350 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Go ahead but all I will see is maybe more=20 power??
 
 
----- Original Message -----
dave.riley3
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 6:5= 9=20 PM
Subject: LF: SM6BHZ

WSPR loud and clean =20 504.500
 
090311 2356   6 -26  1.1 &= nbsp;=20 0.504497  SM6BHZ JO57 30
 
 
TNX DE /17
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_008C_01C9A27E.09D91350-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df05.mx.aol.com (rly-df05.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.18]) by air-df05.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDF053-54f49ca86151ec; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:29:55 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df05.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF054-54f49ca86151ec; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:29:27 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LmYmD-000274-6e for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 19:28:37 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LmYmC-00026v-JK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 19:28:36 +0000 Received: from [193.252.22.191] (helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LmYm9-0002oZ-OK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 19:28:36 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3607.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 5350B700008B for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 20:28:28 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.50.116]) by mwinf3607.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 16A3A700008A for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 20:28:28 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20090325192828928.16A3A700008A@mwinf3607.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: References: <86B4F549F8F247DDA470143B3BE77364@Hugh> <008c01c9ad63$4e9a9190$6401a8c0@asus> In-Reply-To: <008c01c9ad63$4e9a9190$6401a8c0@asus> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 19:28:27 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8064.206 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8064.206 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: RE: Re: TDA2003, TDA2030 for PA? Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 G.. Just checked ... power -3 db at 140 Khz .. but the gain/bw plot shows 20=20 db gain at 500 K but that's running with 'no' compensation ... so may be a little 'wild'=20 hihi G .. B Power Bandwidth (-3 dB) Gv =3D 30 dB Po =3D 12W RL =3D 4W 10 to 140,000 Hz -------------------------------------------------- From: "Gary - G4WGT" Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 4:03 PM To: Subject: LF: RE: Re: TDA2003, TDA2030 for PA? > > Hi Petr, > > I have tested a TDA2030 for a 500KHz driver & is OK for 136KHz as other > authors have stated. > > It does fall off very rapidly from 200KHz & higher & is of no use at=20 > 500KHz. > > 73 > > Gary - G4WGT. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Hugh_m0wye > Sent: 25 March 2009 15:01 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: LF: Re: TDA2003, TDA2030 for PA? > > I successfully made a TDA2030 amplifier which i used for all my intial > experimenting on 137kHz > Photo http://www.m0wye.radiouk.com/lfamp.jpg > The data sheet for this IC claims a bandwidth of 140kHz so it won't work=20 > on > 500kHz. > I think I got about 6Watts out. Not all the audio ICs have as much=20 > bandwidth > > as this. > You need a matching circuit on the output to convert the low impedance of > the amp to 50 ohms - or whatever your antenna system uses. > 73 > Hugh M0WYE > > > > > ----- Original Message -----=20 > From: "Petr Mal=FD" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 1:38 PM > Subject: LF: TDA2003, TDA2030 for PA? > > > Hi all, > > My intention is to build a small transmitter up to some 10W for 136 and=20 > 505 > kHz, this time not the D class, but B or AB class. > I think of employing AF amplifiers such as TDA2003, TDA2030, or similar.=20 > Of > course, mainly 505 kHz is rather out of range so that nothing is=20 > guaranteed. > > This is why I ask before experimenting. > Did anybody try to use these for 136/505 kHz? > > Tks, 73, Petr, OK!FIG > http://ok1fig.nagano.cz > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.283 / Virus Database: 270.11.27/2021 - Release Date: 03/24/09= =20 > 16:00:00 >=20 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (rly-dd01.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.148]) by air-dd02.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD024-b5c49cdf680303; 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Sat, 28 Mar 2009 11:04:48 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20090328100449110.1B05320000AD@mwinf1916.orange.fr Message-ID: <200903281104270721.54188600@smtp.wanadoo.fr> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (P) Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 11:04:27 +0100 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 137: 'MFW' 20dB SNR, '?E5ODL' 15dB SNR Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 At 1000z 73 F5VLF From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg01.mx.aol.com (rly-mg01.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.107]) by air-mg10.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG104-9f549ab04c7335; 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Sun, 01 Mar 2009 16:56:49 -0500 Message-ID: <49AB04A1.2030308@charter.net> Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 16:56:49 -0500 From: John Andrews User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, 600MRG References: <49AAF908.7040906@charter.net> <20090301223044.8i4kbe2osr5wco8o@webmail4.kuleuven.be> In-Reply-To: <20090301223044.8i4kbe2osr5wco8o@webmail4.kuleuven.be> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WE2XGR/3 WSPR tonight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Rik, Yes, I can use 508.000 as a center frequency. So that'll put the dial frequency down to 506.500. The WE2XVY signal would certainly be a challenge for you! So XGR/3 will be on 508.000 starting at 2330Z. John Andrews, WE2XGR/3 Rik Strobbe wrote: > Hello John, > > is +/- 508.00 instead of 508.50 an option ? > That way we would have you and WE2XVY (on 507.985) in the same WSPR > window ? > > 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > > Quoting John Andrews : > >> I will run a WSPR beacon on 508.500 kHz tonight from 2330 to 0300 UTC. >> That's a dial frequency of 507.000 kHz. Reports are welcome. >> >> John Andrews, WE2XGR/3 > > > > Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.5/1978 - Release Date: 03/01/09 07:04:00 > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma07.mx.aol.com (rly-ma07.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.51]) by air-ma08.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMA083-8ba49c34cfcd0; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 04:00:05 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma07.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA074-8ba49c34cfcd0; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 03:59:57 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LkZdh-0008Cj-1b for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 07:59:37 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LkZdg-0008Am-4S for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 07:59:36 +0000 Received: from psmtp13.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.25]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LkZde-0003k5-GE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 07:59:36 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp13.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KGS008XUOUVWM@psmtp13.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 08:59:19 +0100 (MET) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 08:59:12 +0100 From: henny van elst To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <650F5744AD854ABD8276029657B4AB17@ns94d01ae4d850> <49C2BCB0.4010607@online.fr> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: F6AFJ 19-03.jpg Content-type: text/plain; reply-type=original; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 F1AFJ, pa3cpm sri Jean-Pierre, 73s ----- Original Message -----=20 From: ""Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 (F1AFJ)"" To: Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 10:44 PM Subject: Re: LF: F6AFJ 19-03.jpg Hi Henny , TNX for capture , my call are F1AFJ not F6AFJ !!!! hi hi 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj henny van elst a =E9crit : > Hi Jean-Pierre and All, > strong signal 137khz > Henny pa3cpm > best 73s > Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden=20 > verzonden: > F6AFJ 19-03.jpg > > Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen=20 > het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe.=20 > Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe= =20 > bijlagen worden afgehandeld. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.18/2008 - Release Date: 03/17/09=20 16:25:00 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me02.mx.aol.com (rly-me02.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.35]) by air-me03.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINME032-99f49b18cd727b; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 15:52:00 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me02.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME023-99f49b18cd727b; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 15:51:38 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lfh0i-0001Ck-RS for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 20:51:12 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lfh0i-0001Cb-1D for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 20:51:12 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.151] helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lfh0g-0005LR-Ju for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 20:51:11 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3529.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 11E371C00084 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 21:51:05 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.23.203]) by mwinf3529.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 803401C00081 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 21:51:04 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20090306205104525.803401C00081@mwinf3529.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <28FA0F184B25444F8BA2F1EC5FC42C04@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <0566EF6DE20B4249A3E74859BF9BA2C6@AGB> <9C03FBF153AB478A9B0DBC5580CF20D2@AGB> In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 20:51:02 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8064.206 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8064.206 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Multi-function beacon Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00D4_01C99E9D.434773A0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_00D4_01C99E9D.434773A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable OK Andy,=20 I was thinking more in terms of generating the pulse using 'audio' and not=20= by hard keying .. but the 'area under the curve' looks a little 'thin' ..p= ity .. the rest of the system could be 'constructed' using a audio editor=20= .and sent via a ssb tx with alc 'off' .. how accurate is the start time req= uirements ?=20 tnx- G ..=20 From: Andy Talbot=20 Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 8:13 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: Multi-function beacon Not strictly -=20 Look at it in th efreqeuncy domain. A 500us pulse has its first zero at 200= 0/pi =3D 637Hz, so most of the energy is within 1300Hz bandwidth, and a subs= tantial part will pass though the Rx filter. It will be extended in time an= d flattenned, but the detection algorithm finds the peak, in effect applying= an inverse transform of the SSB filter. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com Nb the pulse width , 500uS .. that's a bit sharp for a ssb filter , on= ly 1.5 cycles at 3 Khz ... ? ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.8/1987 - Release Date: 03/06/09 07= :20:00 ------=_NextPart_000_00D4_01C99E9D.434773A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
OK  Andy,
 
I was thinking more in terms of generating=20 the  pulse using 'audio' and not by hard keying .. but the 'area under=20 the  curve' looks a little 'thin'  ..pity .. the  rest of=20 the  system could be 'constructed' using a audio editor .and sent via a= ssb=20 tx with alc 'off' .. how accurate is the  start time requirements ?=20
 
tnx- G ..
 
 

Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 8:13 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Multi-function beacon

Not strictly -
Look at it in th efreqeuncy domain.  A 500us pulse has its first z= ero=20 at 2000/pi =3D 637Hz, so most of the energy is within 1300Hz bandwidth, and&= nbsp;a=20 substantial part will pass though the Rx filter.  It will be extended i= n=20 time and flattenned, but the detection algorithm finds the peak, in effect=20 applying an inverse transform of the SSB filter.

Andy  G4JNT
= www.g4jnt.com

 
 
Nb   the  pulse width , 500uS .= . that's=20 a bit  sharp for a ssb filter , only  1.5 cycles at 3 Khz ....=20 ?
 
 
 
 


No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG -=20 www.avg.com
Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.8/1987 - Release D= ate:=20 03/06/09 07:20:00
------=_NextPart_000_00D4_01C99E9D.434773A0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me06.mx.aol.com (rly-me06.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.40]) by air-me01.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINME011-9c449c020eb1c; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 18:15:18 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me06.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME068-9c449c020eb1c; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 18:15:09 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LjhYi-000895-2v for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 22:14:52 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LjhYh-00088w-OF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 22:14:51 +0000 Received: from smtp6-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.6]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LjhYf-0003Cd-Ei for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 22:14:51 +0000 Received: from smtp6-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp6-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 834B8E0801C for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 23:14:43 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp6-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D4F3E080F4 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 23:14:41 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <49C020D0.3050201@online.fr> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 23:14:40 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <49C01194.2010305@online.fr> In-Reply-To: X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: [137kHz] Test de f1afj qrss60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Lubos , Thank you for report , 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj Lubos OK2BVG a =E9crit : > Hello Jean-Pierre, LF! > Your signal is FB "O" here in JN88KS. > > Lubos, OK2BVG > > > > =20 >> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 22:09:40 +0100 >> From: jpm.f1afj@online.fr >> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> Subject: LF: [137kHz] Test de f1afj qrss60 >> >> Hello LF >> I am in test on 137775 qrss60, 300 W until 22:00z >> Your reports will be welcome >> 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj >> >> =20 > > _________________________________________________________________ > Pozvi sv=E9 p=F8=E1tele z Facebooku a Hotmailu do Messengeru! > https://www.invite2messenger.net/Default.aspx > =20 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg06.mx.aol.com (rly-dg06.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.90]) by air-dg04.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDG042-5d349b66be87a; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 09:32:35 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg06.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG066-5d349b66be87a; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 09:32:27 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lh23F-0004OU-Hm for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 13:31:21 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lh23F-0004OL-3m for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 13:31:21 +0000 Received: from mail-ew0-f161.google.com ([209.85.219.161]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lh23D-0002Sf-0x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 13:31:21 +0000 Received: by ewy5 with SMTP id 5so1463263ewy.4 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 06:31:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Z7C/+84v5aeWgM58PC/9KK+PGjg+NJTXMB3PfABwMNs=; b=Cbr01X2hulobvL0PcaKz2BeyleVFpZDgW1Eqep7vmxKpHKe2Kntu3i2GnrywOuT7yD lzZdQzaa6f5kT0iTlW23vAh1w/zCqMwS8RY6nj01x7pL87/adzQyce+URBDZfG0ntJVb U9XTLm/F/ErI6Mq+ZhYWkr+cnJE5scPbbllcY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Zdj7N/YyflFdDaMVpxmAkPlVvpT0p3xC9viQO/+8CdZzTkM2x0R/QuQQ7YaP4O6E2Q AzvpYUJIOnuk+8igXP775TjtPP8oI5uOYuOtnV6jv9wrJ4djhAiRjYhZyqAb1P0UiDOH /ij5fmzi42uda1nZLHzG77fshPnnF7h+RitPU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.2.210 with SMTP id 60mr2709519wef.21.1236691873368; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 06:31:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5931f8db0903100248k30848559n7d80ce48e4227a9d@mail.gmail.com> References: <8bf118410902200141m5f37c7dcv6736f876fdcfd3e1@mail.gmail.com> <8bf118410902200151y197b60fbjddf4acd6500e4b4a@mail.gmail.com> <5931f8db0903100248k30848559n7d80ce48e4227a9d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 13:31:13 +0000 Message-ID: <8bf118410903100631k62661ee5u2ab958cb1475ae16@mail.gmail.com> From: Dave Pick To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: test Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d261.1 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Harry Well at least it's easy with Googlemail, you can just "archive" it all when you've scanned for anything interesting. Then its available for searching through later. They give you so much storage you don't need to delete anything! Dave. 2009/3/10 Harry Woodhouse : > Dear Dave, Thanks for all your trouble.I have now got a Google Mail addres= s, > and joined with no problems, but am overwhelmed by the volume of it!! > =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0 Regards, Harry > > On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 9:51 AM, Dave Pick wrote: >> >> Here is the error message: >> >> Reporting-MTA: dns; ttsmtp.cpwnetworks.com >> >> Final-Recipient: rfc822;majordomo@blacksheep.org >> Action: failed >> Status: 5.0.0 (permanent failure) >> Remote-MTA: dns; [193.82.116.32] >> Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 5.1.0 - Unknown address error 550-'This message >> scored 5.3 spam points - rejected' (delivery attempts: 0) >> >> 2009/2/20 Dave Pick >> > >> > My last message didn't get through... does this work? >> > Was trying to help a colleague who was having trouble subscribing to >> > this reflector, even though he was doing exactly the right thing his me= ssage >> > was being bounced by a spam filter. Is there any way round this? >> > >> > Dave. >> > >> > -- >> > G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK >> >> >> >> -- >> G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK >> > > --=20 G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf01.mx.aol.com (rly-mf01.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.171]) by air-mf07.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMF073-93b49ab1bdebc; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 18:36:03 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf01.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF011-93b49ab1bdebc; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 18:35:59 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LdvBq-0002XL-0H for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 23:35:22 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LdvBp-0002XC-Gq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 23:35:21 +0000 Received: from fish4a.hurontel.on.ca ([216.46.140.4] helo=fish4.hurontel.on.ca) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LdvBo-0005oD-LS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 23:35:21 +0000 Received: from hurontel.on.ca (filter4.hurontel.on.ca [216.46.129.219]) by fish4.hurontel.on.ca (Spam Firewall) with ESMTP id CAC18284A192 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 18:35:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from hurontel.on.ca (filter4.hurontel.on.ca [216.46.129.219]) by fish4.hurontel.on.ca with ESMTP id R8BWDZQzLdoX3AO2 for ; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 18:35:15 -0500 (EST) From: "weazle" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Mailer: Quality Web Email v3.1e, http://netwinsite.com/refw.htm Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 18:34:52 -0500 Message-id: <49ab1bb3.261.438d.1190371772@hurontel.on.ca> X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WE2XGR/3 WSPR tonight X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: John Andrews To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, 600MRG Subject: LF: WE2XGR/3 WSPR tonight Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 16:07:20 -0500 ----- Original Message Follows ----- > I will run a WSPR beacon on 508.500 kHz tonight from 2330 > to 0300 UTC. That's a dial frequency of 507.000 kHz. > Reports are welcome. > > John Andrews, WE2XGR/3 > Hi John, You're solid into EN93DR, just a bit up from where I've been looking for WE2XVY all the way from Arizona! 73, J.B., VE3EAR From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (rly-mg03.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.109]) by air-mg08.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMG084-a0449c075153a8; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 00:14:34 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG036-a0449c075153a8; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 00:14:15 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ljn9u-0002HZ-LH for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 04:13:38 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ljn9t-0002HQ-V2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 04:13:37 +0000 Received: from smtprelay0193.hostedemail.com ([216.40.44.193] helo=smtprelay.hostedemail.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ljn9q-0004TO-Sr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 04:13:37 +0000 Received: from filter.hostedemail.com (ff-bigip1 [10.5.19.254]) by smtprelay03.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 39491B6257 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 04:13:11 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Summary: 30,2,0,27bd2ff10d03d3f0,49f40f4b3f783a2d,ve8rt@xplornet.com,rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org,RULES_HIT:2:69:152:355:379:408:481:599:601:800:945:946:960:967:973:982:988:989:1042:1260:1261:1277:1311:1312:1313:1314:1345:1359:1437:1515:1516:1518:1519:1535:1593:1594:1595:1596:1605:1676:1730:1747:1766:1792:2194:2199:2379:2393:2525:2551:2552:2553:2560:2563:2682:2685:2829:2857:2859:2933:2937:2939:2942:2945:2947:2951:2954:3022:3027:3622:3636:3865:3866:3867:3868:3869:3870:3871:3872:3873:3874:3876:3877:3934:3936:3938:3941:3944:3947:3950:3953:3956:3959:4043:4049:4118:4225:4250:4605:4648:4649:5007:6114:6117:6119:6996:6997:7576:7652:7679:7754:7875:7903:7904:7974:8501:8599:8660:9010:9025:9038:9040:9108:9388:9545,0,RBL:none,CacheIP:none,Bayesian:0.5,0.5,0.5,Netcheck:none,DomainCache:0,MSF:not bulk,SPF:fu,MSBL:none,DNSBL:none Received: from [192.168.1.103] (xplr-ts-v10-208-114-191-189.barrettxplore.com [208.114.191.189]) (Authenticated sender: ron.t@xplornet.com) by omf02.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 04:13:05 +0000 (UTC) From: Ron Thompson To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 22:12:53 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.4 References: <200903141634.37933.ve8rt@xplornet.com> <200903151858.47737.ve8rt@xplornet.com> In-Reply-To: Organization: ARS VE8RT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200903172212.54356.ve8rt@xplornet.com> X-session-marker: 726F6E2E744078706C6F726E65742E636F6D X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Getting started, maybe Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Graham, its a good thing that they did the ice-road truckers series before the economic slowdown, traffic this year has been very light with a drivers not even making their expenses to come up here. Anyway, I'm in avionics for an operator up here. My apprentice is leaving, over pay issues, to work for one of our competitors, Buffalo Airways. You might see him on TV in a year or two as the people who did the Ice Road Truckers series are doing another one on Buffalo Air. The attraction there is that they're just now making the transition over to turbine aircraft with some Lockheed Electras, prior to that their fleet was made up of DC3's DC4s DC6s and a couple of C46s. Apparently parts these vintage machines are too hard to find so they've updated the fleet with the Electras. Thanks for the antenna recommendations. While it isn't practical to put a top hat on the tower as the power lines pass withing 7 metres or so, I could use the off-centre fed 80 metre dipole feedline as a vertical antenna for receiving. I've been told that the landfill they used to make the parking lot, that the house is in, has a foundation of old car bodies. So I should have a good ground, and I know that I have one of the quietest places in town with respect to RF noise. If, or when, we get licenced to transmit on the band then I'll be looking for some options. I did find a web site with a cursory description of a home made Isoltron loop type antenna for transmitting on the 60 metre band, if it worked it may fit my available space. Its time to call it a night. Thanks again, Ron On Tuesday 17 March 2009 13:28, Graham wrote: > Fine Ron, > > Well quite a lot of uk stations are running T or some form of top loaded > vertical , with 35 feet vertical section, mine is in the form of a > inverted L with 35 ft vertical, 40 turn/3inch top loading coil and 2 x > 40 foot parallel ,capacity section, so your towers look to be fine ? what > is the ground earth like , assume the lakes are fresh water ? > > 500 seems to be a funny frequency as theses small arrays appear to > radiate quite well and distance/power looks good , 50 watts of mfsk prints > well at 5/600 miles range > > A short 'long' wire may not work as well as you might think ..unless you > can get the height , due mostly to ground capacity .. but if you can > get 1000 mtrs out at fence height .. now that may do the trick (for rx) > > > Andy's beacon is running 100 watts and looks to be reaching K4 land > 4000 miles , you look to be 3600 miles so should be in range ? you could > try loading up a T ,atu at the base and take a look on 503.7 , using the > ral/plx software for the 5 meg project ? other beacons are about but are > not 'timed' so need spec-lab, wsper or similar .. > > 73 , G .. > > > Nb ... There has been a tv series showing the ice road truck's taking > goods up the frozen lakes quite amazing to watch .... ! > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Ron Thompson" > Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 12:58 AM > To: > Subject: Re: LF: Getting started, maybe > > > Hi Graham, > > > > my actual location is at postal code X1A 2H5 > > > > I'm in the company crew house at the float base. In the Google map > > for the postal code, at the highest available satellite magnification, > > you should > > see floatplanes along the parking lot and then in a cove on the upper > > side of > > the parking lot is a yellow Cessna floatplane. The house just to the > > left of > > the floatplane is where I live. Unfortunately, as the house is in the > > floatbase parking lot, there isn't any antenna space around it. What I > > do have is two 15 metre towers spaced about 48 metres apart that I use > > for my HF > > antenna (it used to have a company commercial HF antenna before). Any > > LF/MF > > antenna must be compact and mountable either to the house or one of the > > towers. Power lines are between the house and cove, which may be a noise > > source. > > > > Ron > > > > On Sunday 15 March 2009 16:20, Graham wrote: > >> I was looking on google earth ... looks to be a lot of sea planes > >> about .. that would prevent any high mast ?? > >> > >> the location looks a bit tricky ......a low long wire may be good .. > >> but can you get one out , looks to have roads all round ? > >> > >> G .. > >> > >> > >> From: Dave Pick > >> Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 5:24 PM > >> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > >> Subject: Re: LF: Getting started, maybe > >> > >> > >> Ron > >> > >> I would recommend a loop antenna, there are various designs around such > >> as > >> Jim M0BMU's design, http://www.wireless.org.uk/BPloops2.pdf Even though > >> you're in the middle of nowhere there, you should stand a chance of > >> getting > >> some of the US 500kHz stations ( www.500kc.com ) going under the calls > >> WD2XSH and WE2XGR with numerical suffixes identifying the individual > >> stations. We in the UK have 10W ERP but it won't be easy to get right > >> over > >> to you... Maybe you could contact some of the US stations in the North > >> and > >> do some test with them first? > >> > >> Good luck! > >> Dave G3YXM. > >> > >> 2009/3/14 Ron Thompson : > >> > I've been reading the occasional posting to the list, wondering if I > >> > could find some time and money to work with. As we do not yet have > >> > licences for the 500KHz band, the best place to start would be setting > >> > up > >> > for receiving. > > > > -- > > Ron Thompson, VE8RT > > Yellowknife, NT, Canada > > 62 28.060 N 114 20.648 W Grid Square DP22tl > > "Who are are these that fly as a cloud, and as doves to their window?" Is > > 60:8 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.15/2003 - Release Date: > > 03/15/09 14:07:00 -- Ron Thompson, VE8RT Yellowknife, NT, Canada 62 28.060 N 114 20.648 W Grid Square DP22tl "Who are are these that fly as a cloud, and as doves to their window?" Is 60:8 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da07.mx.aol.com (rly-da07.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.81]) by air-da09.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA093-a7f49cdef06aa; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 05:34:22 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da07.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA077-a7f49cdef06aa; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 05:34:02 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LnUub-0003nv-7c for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 09:33:09 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LnUua-0003nm-TL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 09:33:08 +0000 Received: from ns3.isc.de ([195.64.106.46] helo=ndisco46.misc.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LnUuY-0007Dh-4q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 09:33:08 +0000 Received: from p5b261c98.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([91.38.28.152] helo=[192.168.178.20]) by ndisco46.misc.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LnUuS-0006u5-7E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 10:33:00 +0100 From: "Klaus von der Heide" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 10:32:48 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <49CDFCD0.558.336691@v.d.heide.on-line.de> In-reply-to: <02803F019014433F8238BE62E2FC3BAD@Silver> References: , <02803F019014433F8238BE62E2FC3BAD@Silver> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41, DE v4.41 R1) Content-description: Mail message body X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Miles per Watt? Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hello Markus and all, if the reflector scatters isotropic then we have the decay of fieldstrength on the ways hence and forth which has the consequence that the received energy decays by the inverse of the FOURTH power of the distance. That was the intrinsic challenge of the EVE experiment! This also is the reason why the small distance changes of our Moon cause 2.3 dB difference in EME. 73! Klaus, DJ5HG > Gentlemen, > > sorry, but in my humble opinion a figure like "miles per watt" just doesn't make any sense. > > Fieldstrength goes with the square root of power, but decays at least proportional to inverse distance. Anyone could claim 1000 lightyears (1E16 km !) per watt, simply by feeding -165 dBm into a pair of 144 MHz dipoles spaced by 0.3 m and a QRSS3 receiver. > > A more appropiate figure would be km/sqrt(watt). > > Best regards, > Markus (DF6NM) From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh09.mx.aol.com (rly-mh09.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.145]) by air-mh02.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMH021-bf149ae475e317; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 04:18:35 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh09.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH091-bf149ae475e317; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 04:18:26 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LenEr-00026K-Qm for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 09:18:05 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LenEr-00026B-AP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 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(post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db10.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB102-aec49c7c65612a; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 13:26:48 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LlnuV-0000ax-V0 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 17:26:03 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LlnuV-0000ao-Cy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 17:26:03 +0000 Received: from [193.252.22.192] (helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LlnuR-0006md-Bq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 17:26:03 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3621.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 8A7AF7000082 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 18:25:51 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.1.168]) by mwinf3621.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 08F137000081 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 18:25:48 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20090323172549367.08F137000081@mwinf3621.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <5DC3B112A661483985D7E2EE0E0821B6@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <20090323085031.52ABEF3862@smtps02.kuleuven.be> In-Reply-To: <20090323085031.52ABEF3862@smtps02.kuleuven.be> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 17:25:48 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8064.206 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8064.206 X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_FONT_FACE_BAD=0.452,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: definition of telegraphy Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003E_01C9ABDC.67FF28E0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_FONT_FACE_BAD, HTML_MESSAGE,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_003E_01C9ABDC.67FF28E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rik That's really good news .you see everyone complains how crude 'English' i= s .. but not in this case hihi Depending on your set up .. the mfsk systems look to give the best resul= ts and dont need a linear system=20 G ..=20 From: Rik Strobbe=20 Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 8:50 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: LF: definition of telegraphy Dear all, in Belgium we have access to 500kHz since about 1 year. Conditions (limitations) are: - 501-504kHz - max. 5 W EIRP - only telegraphy - max. 100Hz bandwidth - only full license holders ITU Recommendation R V.662-3 defines telegraphy as "A form of telecommunicat= ion in which the transmitted information is intended to be recorded on arriv= al as a graphic document; the transmitted information may sometimes be prese= nted in an alternative form or may be stored for subsequent use.". So digita= l modes could be considered telegraphy and thus allowed on 500kHz. As we (UBA) reached the 500kHz access only after long negotiations with BIPT= (our Ofcom / FCC) we are very careful in what we do. Therefor we asked BIPT= if they would agree with our point of view. After internal (read BIPT legal department) consultation BIPT agreed with us= . So from now on we can use digital modes on 500kHz. The 100Hz bandwidth limit= ation is still in force, but there is plenty of digital modes that stay with= in this limit. 73, Rik ON7YD Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm for more inform= ation.=20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.24/2018 - Release Date: 03/22/09 1= 7:51:00 ------=_NextPart_000_003E_01C9ABDC.67FF28E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Rik
 
That's really  good  news .you&nb= sp; see=20 everyone complains how crude 'English' is .. but not in this case=20 hihi
 
Depending on your  set up .. the = mfsk=20 systems look to  give the  best results and dont  need a line= ar=20 system
 
G ..

Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 8:50 AM
Subject: LF: definition of telegraphy

Dear all,

in Belgium we have access to 500kHz  si= nce=20 about 1 year.
Conditions (limitations) are:
- 501-504kHz
- max. 5 W= =20 EIRP
- only telegraphy
- max. 100Hz bandwidth
- only full license=20 holders
ITU Recommendation R V.662-3 defines telegraphy as "A form of=20 telecommunication in which the transmitted information is intended to be=20 recorded on arrival as a graphic document; the transmitted information may=20 sometimes be presented in an alternative form or may be stored for subsequen= t=20 use.". So digital modes could be considered telegraphy and thus allowed=20= on=20 500kHz.
As we (UBA) reached the 500kHz access only after long negotiation= s=20 with BIPT (our Ofcom / FCC) we are very careful in what we do. Therefor we a= sked=20 BIPT if they would agree with our point of view.
After internal (read BIP= T=20 legal department) consultation BIPT agreed with us.
So from now on we can= use=20 digital modes on 500kHz. The 100Hz bandwidth limitation is still in force, b= ut=20 there is plenty of digital modes that stay within this limit.

73,=20 Rik  ON7YD

Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.= be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm=20 for more information.


No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG -=20 www.avg.com
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------=_NextPart_000_003E_01C9ABDC.67FF28E0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da03.mx.aol.com (rly-da03.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.77]) by air-da10.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDA102-a5d49b44456239; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 18:19:20 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da03.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA035-a5d49b44456239; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 18:19:04 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LgRKS-0003Y3-6F for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 22:18:40 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LgRKR-0003Xu-M5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 22:18:39 +0000 Received: from smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk ([195.188.213.6]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LgRKQ-0003XS-8u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 22:18:39 +0000 Received: from [172.23.170.145] (helo=anti-virus03-08) by smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1LgRKM-00064O-7o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 22:18:34 +0000 Received: from [92.235.33.173] (helo=p4) by asmtp-out1.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1LgRKL-0006q3-KF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 22:18:33 +0000 Message-ID: <892948FBAAB84D3C9C48310A7EA05737@p4> From: "Mark" To: References: <0566EF6DE20B4249A3E74859BF9BA2C6@AGB> <9C03FBF153AB478A9B0DBC5580CF20D2@AGB> <28FA0F184B25444F8BA2F1EC5FC42C04@AGB> <006101c9a01b$0d14fc10$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <839B448A31F0490FAC0789261C271A6C@AGB> Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 22:18:33 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Ok so who missed this quick qsy ? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_006F_01C9A03B.D1710750" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.7 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_60_70, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_006F_01C9A03B.D1710750 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Graham, Not sure what u are referring to.... =20 The transmission that starts off a little unstable and ends up on 504.5 is S= M6BHZ in WSPR mode. I saw the same start-up frequency drift yesterday too. The signals in-band h= owever.. ??? regards Mark GM4ISM ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Graham=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 9:53 PM Subject: LF: Ok so who missed this quick qsy ?=20 Whilst watching Andys beacon ..... captured this ...=20 Oops a daisy seems to be the appropriate technical expression=20 (the wavy line is feature of the R5003)=20 1800 Hz =3D 504 Khz=20 >>> http://uk500khz.googlegroups.com/web/capt0903082130.jpg <<< http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/ufos-and-things-that-go-beep G ..=20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.9/1989 - Release Date: 03/07/09=20= 18:43:00 ------=_NextPart_000_006F_01C9A03B.D1710750 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Graham,
Not sure what u are referring to.... =20  
The transmission that starts off a little u= nstable=20 and ends up on 504.5 is SM6BHZ in WSPR mode.
I saw the same start-up frequency drift yes= terday=20 too. The signals in-band however.. ???
regards
Mark GM4ISM
----- Original Message -----
Graham
Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 9:53=20 PM
Subject: LF: Ok so who missed this=20= quick=20 qsy ?

Whilst watching Andys beacon ..... captur= ed this=20 ...
 
Oops a daisy seems to  be the=20  appropriate   technical expression
 
(the wavy line is feature of the R5003)=20
 
1800 Hz =3D 504 Khz
 
 
 
G ..


No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG -=20 www.avg.com
Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.9/1989 - Release= =20 Date: 03/07/09 18:43:00
------=_NextPart_000_006F_01C9A03B.D1710750-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh11.mx.aol.com (rly-mh11.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.147]) by air-mh07.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMH072-61a49c018b41ce; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 17:40:23 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh11.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH117-61a49c018b41ce; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 17:40:07 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ljh0b-0007KZ-MJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 21:39:37 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ljh0b-0007KQ-BS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 21:39:37 +0000 Received: from imr-d02.mx.aol.com ([205.188.157.40]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ljh0Y-0002y7-N7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 21:39:37 +0000 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imr-d02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id l.c42.488343d0 (34983) for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 17:38:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Black (g229165095.adsl.alicedsl.de [92.229.165.95]) by cia-da08.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILCIADA088-88a749c0185e3dc; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 17:38:39 -0400 Message-ID: <09D7DB9537774AB5A6A57D13F7F5FCCC@Black> From: "Markus Vester" To: Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 22:38:37 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16480 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16669 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: XKO and XGJ in Bavaria Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0011_01C9A751.1D1B2E80" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C9A751.1D1B2E80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Dex and Warren, last night, XKO and XGJ were also strong at this end of the world... http://freenet-homepage.de/df6nm/TA/testTA0903170400.png 73 de Markus, DF6NM ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C9A751.1D1B2E80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Dex and Warren,
 
last night, XKO and XGJ were also strong at= this=20 end of the world...
 
73 de Markus, DF6NM
 
------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C9A751.1D1B2E80-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me08.mx.aol.com (rly-me08.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.42]) by air-me04.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME042-9cf49cf8f8f226; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 11:11:27 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me08.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME083-9cf49cf8f8f226; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 11:11:14 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LnweE-0002wq-Je for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 16:10:06 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LnweE-0002wh-3v for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 16:10:06 +0100 Received: from smtp813.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.73]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LnweC-000201-Mi for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 16:10:06 +0100 Received: (qmail 50491 invoked from network); 29 Mar 2009 15:09:58 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=jX2g9lN4OkaOxwGA2qfMJL4NOARAR0S4dRg0VyxXnPq8tZr21zj7PIlhbnpTXmz9Cv13xT3gi99OgqD4YCA5XCr8/zSZYatHPpqhqq45vY84TUXqt1jb1AU0/GKRTmdfNnrTZ0lPxim2Beq0Wh1QPbCpxa/xdHXkfwTXuL9rMUo= ; Received: from unknown (HELO Lark) (alan.melia@213.122.29.38 with login) by smtp813.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Mar 2009 15:09:57 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 57SuJAQVM1n.cZnW5KVo5E7EZkAJDZtpyrbQ8sCWXdz3f0oZhdkZi4bzdYXDpBRxpQOY9a1FRSb834QqksuoD15YZCCdIJLWiE_54plrZZKp8uSCw1hTsFPpd.47qkSjVvwQA6LJHJDMsM6wrRZnApceKtzS02Ztmap6Dt8eSzbcH_LmAIVR6vvmdIoA8SxbhvIIa3Je1jMFA1MMETR7FrzFR2Trt4zt7mUS X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <006b01c9b080$7127b560$0900a8c0@AM> From: "Alan Melia" To: Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 16:05:20 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Fw: EI--- 500khz permit applications Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael J. Probert" To: "Alan Melia" Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 3:32 PM Subject: FW: EI--- 500khz permit applications Hello Alan, The LF reflector does not seem to accept my posting. Could you kindly forward please? Best regards Mike. _______________________________ From: Michael Probert GW4HXO [mailto:mikegw4hxo@solva.co.uk] Sent: 29 March 2009 14:57 To: 'owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org' Subject: EI--- 500khz permit applications Hello All, It was announced on the IRTS news today that applications for operation on the 500khz "Band" are now being invited. No specification has yet been posted. Permits will be limited. Best regards Mike GW4HXO From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md05.mx.aol.com (rly-md05.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.143]) by air-md03.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMD032-90849c023b7d9; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 18:27:10 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md05.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD058-90849c023b7d9; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 18:27:05 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LjhkE-0008Fr-9I for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 22:26:46 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LjhkD-0008Fi-Q4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 22:26:45 +0000 Received: from mout2.freenet.de ([195.4.92.92]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LjhkB-0003GS-Qx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 22:26:45 +0000 Received: from [195.4.92.23] (helo=13.mx.freenet.de) by mout2.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID beckmann.erlangen@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #76) id 1LjhkA-0001oo-2x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 23:26:42 +0100 Received: from w1c54.w.pppool.de ([89.58.28.84]:1391 helo=2a2d7ed321c6425) by 13.mx.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID beckmann.erlangen@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #76) id 1Ljhk9-0003Mg-Ly for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 23:26:42 +0100 From: "Beckmann, Gerhard" To: References: <005501c9a73b$dd0b8ac0$6401a8c0@asus> <007901c9a74b$9e595450$6401a8c0@asus> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 23:26:39 +0100 Message-ID: <66041B03F81A45649EE247A427F62B69@2a2d7ed321c6425> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: AcmnQGpNLR16XYh4TuCtDgP6Dpa1XwAB4GUQAAGZ+eA= In-Reply-To: <007901c9a74b$9e595450$6401a8c0@asus> X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: LF: Good copy of GI4DPE in Normal CW Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0067_01C9A757.D3EC6C90" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=5.0 tests=HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN, HTML_MESSAGE,UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0067_01C9A757.D3EC6C90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello LF, MF Good readability of normal CW-signals from GI4DPE in JN59LN (about 549 !!) GI4DPE is in QSO with G3GNR. (No copy of G3GNR in JN59LN, sri ) vy 73 de Gerhard / DK6NI (JN59LN) ========================= ------=_NextPart_000_0067_01C9A757.D3EC6C90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello LF, MF

 

Good readabilit= y of normal CW-signals from GI4DPE in JN59LN (about 549= !!)

GI4DPE is in QS= O with G3GNR.

(No copy of G3G= NR in JN59LN, sri )

 

vy 73 de Gerhard  /=    DK6NI   (JN59LN)

 =

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------=_NextPart_000_0067_01C9A757.D3EC6C90-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg10.mx.aol.com (rly-mg10.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.116]) by air-mg02.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG023-a3949a9fd50193; Sat, 28 Feb 2009 22:13:38 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG103-a3949a9fd50193; Sat, 28 Feb 2009 22:13:22 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ldc6f-0002Zj-QL for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 03:12:45 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ldc6f-0002Za-9H for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 03:12:45 +0000 Received: from vms173003pub.verizon.net ([206.46.173.3]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ldc6e-0002Hc-Ao for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 03:12:45 +0000 Received: from DR2 ([71.184.212.10]) by vms173003.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KFT00FAW4WUJJBU@vms173003.mailsrvcs.net> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Feb 2009 21:12:31 -0600 (CST) Message-id: <5CBFF239A1B3472FB662FAA251A3C943@DR2> From: "dave.riley3" To: Cc: "600MRG" References: <20090125092908.0aec06a4@lurcher> <7EC707A6E2D94414AEBBC52C6159581C@JimPC> Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 22:12:29 -0500 MIME-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36 Subject: LF: Saturday night 'G' watering hole on 600M... 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TNX Dave @ WD2XSH/17 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg07.mx.aol.com (rly-dg07.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.91]) by air-dg03.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDG032-5d849b405621c8; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 13:50:45 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg07.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG071-5d849b405621c8; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 13:50:28 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LgN8W-0008MK-Vh for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 17:50:04 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LgN8W-0008MB-5t for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 17:50:04 +0000 Received: from mout1.freenet.de ([195.4.92.91]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LgN8U-0006ia-Je for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 17:50:04 +0000 Received: from [195.4.92.14] (helo=4.mx.freenet.de) by mout1.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID beckmann.erlangen@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #76) id 1LgN8S-0003d5-Hj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 18:50:00 +0100 Received: from w276a.w.pppool.de ([89.58.39.106]:1295 helo=2a2d7ed321c6425) by 4.mx.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID beckmann.erlangen@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #79) id 1LgN8M-0002Rm-9h for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 18:50:00 +0100 From: "Beckmann, Gerhard" To: References: <0566EF6DE20B4249A3E74859BF9BA2C6@AGB> <9C03FBF153AB478A9B0DBC5580CF20D2@AGB> <28FA0F184B25444F8BA2F1EC5FC42C04@AGB> Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 18:49:54 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: Acmf+6bAXkr7prYwTBOMEnXRFnFQ1gAFJHsg X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: AW: LF: AW: 503.7 Multi-function beacon ... Its working ! Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01C9A01E.AE9AE6A0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C9A01E.AE9AE6A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Graham, =20 Thank you for your statement! Well actually, especially Scattergram or equal measurement methods would be of interest regarding the aspect of signal path monitoring. (direct wave / sky wave via cross correlation of pulse delay values). However, the aspect of interferences by using 500us pulses has to be taken into consideration but may be there are coming up suitable solution by the LF-group.=20 Another method of monitoring the signal path on 500 kHz could possibly performed by using the =93PSK Sounder=94 software from ZL2AFP. And what I sa= w on a first glance it should be usable for transmission and reception in order to monitor the signal path situation. =20 By the way:=20 Do you know if Andy is continuing the Multi-function beaconing on 503.7 kHz? In this case I would try long term signal monitoring by GB3RAL.exe and PSK message decoding within the next evening sessions. =20 vy 73 de Gerhard / DK6NI =20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D =20 =20 =20 _____ =20 Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von Graham Gesendet: Sonntag, 8. M=E4rz 2009 15:36 An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Betreff: Re: LF: AW: 503.7 Multi-function beacon ... Its working ! =20 Hi, Grerhard, =20 Andy's post about the new beacon came out of the blue, (as is the signal hihi), Working on this, I've simply added a page to the uk500khz news group and posted links about to generate some interest and make sure the beacon details are known to hams and swl's out side this reflector ..=20 =20 The only thing that occurs to me is that there is a possibility for reception reports to be directed to the 5 meg group , I note that the graph generator by G4IRX requests your call and locator before processing the file and presenting you with a plot. so I will see if anything can be done to prevent this , the data format is of course distorted by having only one active beacon.. so it will show up .. but may as yet be unexpected ....! =20 I note from previous email that the pulse aspect of the beacon is required for precise measurements, I think that may be possible to set up a 'experiment' but the aspect of interference to other users may be significant, Andy has referred to the concept of 'phase reversal' in a continues carrier system (or medium pulse ?) that would perhaps be a acceptable mode of modulation, weather it could be transmitted by a 'normal' transmitter im note sure , but its worth noting that activities on 500, to date are not 'funded' as such and time and capital out lay are part of the 'hobby' and such hardware requirements and software re-writes are beyond many of the active stations. but perhaps as interest spreads .. things may change ..?=20 =20 Tnx-=20 =20 Graham =20 G0NBD IO83LK =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 From: Beckmann, Gerhard=20 Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 11:06 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Cc: 'Robert Hemesley'=20 Subject: LF: AW: 503.7 Multi-function beacon ... Its working ! =20 Hello Graham, Hello Andy,=20 =20 reading about your activities concerning Multi-function beacon I tried yesterday evening to catch your signals, but unfortunately with no results copying your sig. May be condx were not good enough. Moreover I had some bad manmade QRM from TV and PC. =20 As Rob Hemesley told you I am active in 5-MHz-beaco- monitoring specially concerning scattergram monitoring in order to analyse signal path situation (direct wave / sky wave behaviour). But I am running both analysis software, GB3RAL.exe and Scattergram.exe and it would not be any problem to modify the internal PC-clock specially regarding GB3RAL.exe in order to analyse the long term signal level of your Multi-function beacon. So I will try to continue monitoring your Multi-function beacon hopefully that condx will be better in the next evening sessions (hi). If there will be Scattergram acties in future I certainly need some more dB signal level, but it would be very interesting to investigate the signal path situation. Of course, this is more interesting for those participants who are located in a distance range between 150 and 300 km in order to monitor the slide crossover from direct wave to sky wave signal path.=20 However, thank you very much for implementation of your very interesting Multi-function beacon project and I will keep on running my monitoring activities and will inform you in any case about further results. =20 vy 73 and a lot of success by running Multi-function beacons, I will be =93o= n the qui vive=94 !!! =20 de Gerhard / DK6NI (JN59LN) =20 By the way:=20 Dial frequency 505.2 kHz, is that o.k.? (because GB3RAL.exe is decoding with 1500 Hz too). For BPSK31-decoding I am using DigiPan Vers.2.0 =20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =20 =20 =20 _____ =20 Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von Graham Gesendet: Samstag, 7. M=E4rz 2009 23:46 An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Betreff: LF: 503.7 Multi-function beacon ... Its working ! =20 So far so good .. quite a step up in signal round 2100 hrs =20 no frequency decode before then , 15 db over noise at 2130 =20 but a trend showing=20 about 1 hour slow qsb=20 =20 any other reports ? =20 G ..=20 =20 _____ =20 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.9/1988 - Release Date: 03/06/09 19:17:00 ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C9A01E.AE9AE6A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Graham,

 

Thank you for your statement!

Well actually, especially Scattergram or equal measur= ement methods would be of interest regarding the aspect of signal path monitoring. (direct wave / sky wave via cross correlation of pulse delay values).

However, the aspect of interferences by using 500us p= ulses has to be taken into consideration but may be there are coming up suitable solution= by the LF-group.

Another method of monitoring the signal path on 500 k= Hz could possibly performed by using the “PSK Sounder” software from ZL2A= FP. And what I saw on a first glance it should be usable for transmission and reception in order to monitor the signal path situation.

 

By the way:

Do you know if Andy is continuing the Multi-function=20= beaconing on 503.7 kHz?

In this case I would try long term signal monitoring=20= by GB3RAL.exe and PSK message decoding within the next evening sessions.=

 

vy 73 de Gerhard / DK6NI

 

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

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Von:= owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g] Im Auftrag von Graham
Gesendet: Sonntag, 8. M=E4rz=20= 2009 15:36
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Betreff: Re: LF: AW: 503.7 Multi-function beacon ... Its working !

 

Hi, Grerhard,

 

Andy's post about the  new beacon came out of= the  blue, (as is the signal hihi), Working on this,  I've simply added a pa= ge to the  uk500khz news group and posted links about to  generate so= me interest and make sure the beacon details are known to hams and sw= l's out side this reflector ..

 

The only thing that occurs to  me is that the= re is a possibility for reception reports to be  directed to the 5 meg group ,=20= I note that the  graph generator by G4IRX  requests your call and lo= cator  before processing the file and presenting you with a plot. so I will see if anything can be done to  prevent this , the data format is of course distorted by having only one active beacon.. so it will show up .. but may a= s yet be unexpected ...!

 

I note from previous email that the pulse aspect o= f the  beacon is required for precise measurements, I think that may be possible to set up a 'experiment'  but the aspect of interference to&nb= sp; other users may be significant, Andy has referred to the concept of 'phase reversal' in a continues carrier system (or medium pulse ?) that would perha= ps be a acceptable mode of modulation, weather it could be transmitted by a 'normal' transmitter im note sure , but its worth noting that activities on 500, to date  are not 'funded' as such and time and capital out lay are part of the 'hobby' and such hardware requirements  and software re-wri= tes are beyond many of the active stations. but perhaps as interest spreads ... things may change ..?

 

Tnx-

 

Graham

 

G0NBD

IO83LK

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 11:06 AM

Subject: LF: AW: 503.7 Multi-function beacon ... Its working !

 

Hello Graham, Hello Andy,

 

reading about your activities conc= erning Multi-function beacon I tried yesterday evening to catch your signals, but unfortunately with no results copying your sig. May be condx were not good enough.  Moreover I had some bad manmade QRM from TV and PC.=

 

      As=20= Rob Hemesley told you I am active in 5-MHz-beaco- monitoring specially concerning  scattergram monitoring in order to analyse signal path situation (direct wav= e / sky wave behaviour).

      But= I am running both analysis software, GB3RAL.exe and Scattergram.exe and it would not be any problem to modify the internal PC-clock specially regarding GB3RAL.exe in or= der to analyse the long term signal level of your Multi-function beacon. So I wi= ll try to continue monitoring your Multi-function beacon hopefully that condx w= ill be better in the next evening sessions (hi).

      If=20= there will be Scattergram acties in future I certainly need some more dB signal level, but= it would be very interesting to investigate the signal path situation.

      Of=20= course, this is more interesting for those participants who are located in a distance range between 150 and 300 km in order to monitor the slide crossover from direct w= ave to sky wave signal path.

      &nb= sp;However, thank you very much for implementation of your very interesting Multi-function bea= con project and I will keep on running my monitoring activities and will inform=20= you in any case about further results.

 

vy 73 and a lot of success by runn= ing Multi-function beacons, I will be “on the qui vive” !!!

 

de Gerhard  /  DK6NI&nbs= p; (JN59LN)

 

By the way:

Dial frequency 505.2 kHz, is that=20= o.k.? (because GB3RAL.exe is decoding with 1500 Hz too).

For BPSK31-decoding I am using Dig= iPan Vers.2.0

 

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

 

 

 

Von:= owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g] Im Auftrag von Graham
Gesendet: Samstag, 7. M=E4rz=20= 2009 23:46
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Betreff: LF: 503.7 Multi-func= tion beacon ... Its working !

 

So far so good .. quite a step up in signal round=20= 2100 hrs 

no frequency decode before then , 15 db over noise= at 2130

 

but a trend showing

about  1 hour slow qsb

 

any other reports ?

 

G ..

 


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------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C9A01E.AE9AE6A0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd05.mx.aol.com (rly-dd05.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.152]) by air-dd06.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDD061-b7b49c1631d3a0; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 17:10:15 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd05.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD055-b7b49c1631d3a0; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 17:09:51 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lk316-0003N5-23 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:09:36 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lk315-0003Mw-Hw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:09:35 +0000 Received: from mail-fx0-f174.google.com ([209.85.220.174]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lk312-0001N3-GC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:09:35 +0000 Received: by fxm22 with SMTP id 22so263579fxm.4 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 14:09:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=w3Bo8srPEx3mGVbpNkXoiVW04THnv9zXdoX27I0t9Gw=; b=eJWIjMwBKj80Qbl267KW0AkkBnsRlFaCa9xkx6J82KF44W+KwmtERaZxzk2Vkxt1O5 Ch9TRT9MG5cHcLsMhxPp4HF8jtVXf/0+OyZrKDkJHV1TI8sbE56qE4w/1aXHvWUBQR8o nkXUwoofWofTOhu8LxmADffbgl2J/WtgP2LGc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=xOcDDO771GQZmXKlJP+R4HP2hIKfjy5mZ43BXLtjQxAn/O+vbz3yTqfdY88fzRaSdm ZTQYt32IONAYS8PfqUMt+8H7GfQvuqAQVVzSmg5mfSlo9oL0xQQ7xcVAFeflLbgUrtLZ 01EBrlHfc8Wn1X+ciCFVNBwKm/W4aPDBVaz3U= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.116.212 with SMTP id n20mr548831bkq.138.1237410565272; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 14:09:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20090318215906.vn1zu4jium1w08cc@webmail4.kuleuven.be> References: <009001c9a588$7eb02c60$6401a8c0@asus> <916F3329CAA846A19B450540FCC7E0AB@AGB> <20090318215906.vn1zu4jium1w08cc@webmail4.kuleuven.be> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:09:25 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software QQQ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d999da2f335304656b19e1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d295.2 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --0016e6d999da2f335304656b19e1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes. All it does is measure the total signal within the 25 - 30 second. You could transmit for the entire one minute and it would still give the same reading. But avoid the preceding minute though, that's when the noise measurement is made. http://www.g4jnt.com/PCBCN.zip will do the job if you can keep the PC clock accurately set, eg from an internet sync site Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/3/18 Rik Strobbe > Hello Andy, > > if I got it right the RX software will make a correct measurent as long as > the signal is there during the 5 second period, even if the transmission > start a few seconds early and stops a few seconds late ? > That would make timing far less critical and it would be possible to use my > QRS software (eg. sending an "E" at 10 seconds dotlength). > > 73, Rik ON7YD > > Quoting Andy Talbot : > > No it uses the average power over the 5 second period. You could always >> start it 1s early and stop 1s later >> Andy G4JNT >> www.g4jnt.com >> >> >> 2009/3/18 Graham >> >> Andy, >>> >>> Q .. If the tx is keyed by vox/breakin will the slight clipping of >>> the leading edge of the beacon cause time problems ?? >>> reason being .. if use force 'tx' will miss the beacon rx windows ?? >>> >>> Tnx- G .. >>> >>> *From:* Andy Talbot >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 17, 2009 4:27 PM >>> *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>> *Subject:* Re: LF: RE: Syncback software >>> >>> That should have read http://www.g4jnt.com/PCBCN.zip >>> >>> Andy G4JNT >>> www.g4jnt.com >>> >>> >>> 2009/3/17 Andy Talbot >>> >>> Try http://www.g4jnt.com/beacons.htm and go to PCBCN at the bottom >>>> or directly >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>> Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.16/2006 - Release Date: >>> 03/17/09 >>> 07:23:00 >>> >>> >>> >> > > > Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm > > > --0016e6d999da2f335304656b19e1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Yes.=A0
=A0
All it does is measure the total signal within the 25 - 30 second.=A0 Y= ou could transmit for the entire one minute and it would still give the same= reading.=A0=A0
=A0
But avoid the preceding minute though, that's when the noise measur= ement is made.
=A0
=A0http://www.g4jnt.com/PCBC= N.zip=A0 will do the job if you can keep the PC clock accurately set, eg= from an internet sync site

Andy =A0G4JNT
www= .g4jnt.com


2009/3/18 Rik Strobbe <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>= ;
Hello Andy,

if I got it rig= ht the RX software will make a correct measurent as long as the signal is th= ere during the 5 second period, even if the transmission start a few seconds= early and stops a few seconds late ?
That would make timing far less critical and it would be possible to use my=20= QRS software (eg. sending an "E" at 10 seconds dotlength).

= 73, Rik =A0ON7YD=20


Quoting Andy Talbot <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>:
<= br>
No it uses the average power over the 5 second period.=20= =A0 You could always
start it 1s early and stop 1s later
Andy =A0G4JNT=
www.g4jnt.com

2009/3/18 Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>

=A0Andy,

Q .. If the =A0tx is keyed by vox/breakin=20= =A0 =A0will the slight =A0clipping of
the =A0leading edge of the =A0beaco= n =A0cause time problems ??
reason being =A0.. if use force 'tx'=20= will miss the =A0beacon rx windows ??

Tnx- G ..

=A0*From:* Andy Talbot <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>*Sent:* Tuesday, March 17, 2009 4:27 PM=20

*To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
*Subject:* Re: LF: RE:= Syncback software

That should have read http://www.g4jnt.com/PCBCN.zip

Andy =A0G4JNT
www= .g4jnt.com


2009/3/17 Andy Talbot <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>
Try http://www.g4jnt.com/beacons.htm =A0=20= =A0and go to =A0PCBCN at the bottom
=A0or directly

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--0016e6d999da2f335304656b19e1-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da08.mx.aol.com (rly-da08.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.82]) by air-da03.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA034-a8349ca4780296; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 11:02:43 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da08.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA083-a8349ca4780296; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 11:02:25 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LmUcH-0000Em-4w for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:02:05 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LmUcG-0000Ed-OZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:02:04 +0000 Received: from relay.pcl-ipout01.plus.net ([212.159.7.99]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LmUcF-0007Ot-Hm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:02:04 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AjQOAAvkyUnUnw6S/2dsb2JhbACBSoheg2vEM4N1Bg Received: from ptb-relay02.plus.net ([212.159.14.146]) by relay.pcl-ipout01.plus.net with ESMTP; 25 Mar 2009 15:00:58 +0000 Received: from [212.159.90.113] (helo=Hugh) by ptb-relay02.plus.net with smtp (Exim) id 1LmUbB-0007uu-Hd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:00:57 +0000 Message-ID: <86B4F549F8F247DDA470143B3BE77364@Hugh> From: "Hugh_m0wye" To: References: Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:00:50 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Plusnet-Relay: 23843678ecf466f75e4f9af95ab5e3cd X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36 Subject: LF: Re: TDA2003, TDA2030 for PA? Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 I successfully made a TDA2030 amplifier which i used for all my intial experimenting on 137kHz Photo http://www.m0wye.radiouk.com/lfamp.jpg The data sheet for this IC claims a bandwidth of 140kHz so it won't work on 500kHz. I think I got about 6Watts out. Not all the audio ICs have as much bandwidth as this. You need a matching circuit on the output to convert the low impedance of the amp to 50 ohms - or whatever your antenna system uses. 73 Hugh M0WYE ----- Original Message ----- From: "Petr Malý" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 1:38 PM Subject: LF: TDA2003, TDA2030 for PA? Hi all, My intention is to build a small transmitter up to some 10W for 136 and 505 kHz, this time not the D class, but B or AB class. I think of employing AF amplifiers such as TDA2003, TDA2030, or similar. Of course, mainly 505 kHz is rather out of range so that nothing is guaranteed. This is why I ask before experimenting. Did anybody try to use these for 136/505 kHz? Tks, 73, Petr, OK!FIG http://ok1fig.nagano.cz From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc08.mx.aol.com (rly-dc08.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.37]) by air-dc04.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDC042-b3849b224ce14d; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 02:40:19 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc08.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC084-b3849b224ce14d; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 02:40:00 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lfr80-0000Rm-2u for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 07:39:24 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lfr7z-0000Rd-Kq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 07:39:23 +0000 Received: from psmtp09.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.23]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lfr7z-0000x7-1R for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 07:39:23 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp09.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KG400GL2L9HY0@psmtp09.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 08:39:17 +0100 (MET) Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2009 08:39:09 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <5FDEEB9D3CEC45E29426984CA7DC6C15@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 184khz Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_8Y8GpZGamAmVPGP+OXyCHg)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_8Y8GpZGamAmVPGP+OXyCHg) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Hi lf, nil for Joe, henny cpm 73s --Boundary_(ID_8Y8GpZGamAmVPGP+OXyCHg) Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
Hi lf,
nil for Joe,
henny cpm
73s
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Jean Pierre thanks for your reports enjoy your "holiday" Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean-Pierre Méré (F1AFJ)" To: Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 8:27 AM Subject: LF: AFJ 's Grabber closed ! Hello LF , The grabber will be closed for a few times, two reasons with that : 1/ by carrying out my tests of TXing I “killed” my preamplifier of the K9AY , 2/ I leave in the south for two weeks , I will see all that on my return ! 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (rly-dd01.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.148]) by air-dd03.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDD032-b5849bfcf63205; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 12:28:15 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD012-b5849bfcf63205; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 12:27:17 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ljc7g-0003sv-FM for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 16:26:36 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ljc7f-0003sm-3M for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 16:26:35 +0000 Received: from mail-bw0-f171.google.com ([209.85.218.171]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ljc7c-0003Uo-S5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 16:26:35 +0000 Received: by bwz19 with SMTP id 19so160894bwz.4 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 09:26:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=WYVt1JnCtEpdZg4FggSH0e6JjuicYHttZP7gO+X7qcI=; b=paanBK5cmjdduOEvGnPkZZFivipEaGNehtA9Hvj/4/g6GH/PVnJTnHcZlcPV35tryN rBGhd70EutijU3CW1fPWrixjgqZHN+6D6VLx+y+xpbxHL3UI/s0cU3aqK7obcKgIidqY YGdKYTroBLGPZeYs48R+14NTPIz5g4OH8uuYg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=q5im7nhueZB1yGDt60bfQA3riYUaDJIFbvaBRFrtHBQZ5ydDoRFm635omV8YsHvsyx 50d0GSp1/lyxIjU9c6ZFLdO2T4nS3ifYFvuzIoibaPEjOWfkCibvaH9yvET3Cw/n0163 s95CiyMXPowHRLkSnOYDuv+dU22KsnnMCk5bI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.60.194 with SMTP id q2mr53345bkh.150.1237307187233; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 09:26:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <009001c9a588$7eb02c60$6401a8c0@asus> <001e01c9a665$ebeac870$6401a8c0@asus> <00be01c9a66e$c8bfdbc0$0900a8c0@AM> <004a01c9a677$2a8b48a0$6401a8c0@asus> <005101c9a679$df148f50$6401a8c0@asus> <916F3329CAA846A19B450540FCC7E0AB@AGB> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 16:26:27 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5a6b85f825b046553074c X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNSAFE,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m215.1 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --001636c5a6b85f825b046553074c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Try http://www.g4jnt.com/beacons.htm and go to PCBCN at the bottom or directly http://www.g4jnt.com/beacons.htm/PCBCN.zip This little prog has been there for some time, mostly forgotton, and I've just made a quickie mod to allow seconds into the offset as well as minutes.= . But, it relies ONLY ON THE PC's INTERNAL CLOCK which must be kept synchronised to within a second, somehow. Use : Interval =3D 15 Offset =3D 5 or 6 Mins and 25 secs, Duration =3D 5. No guarantees, so watch it for a bit and don't trust for 86400/365.2422 operation until fully proven. (Midnight rollover has never been tested in anger) VB6 source code included for info. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/3/17 Graham > Ok Andy > > Easily ... that's the problem hihi .. > > Is there anyone tuned in who could write a short code to say ,select > the com port, time slot and key the com port ? , That way any simple cw=20= tx > could be used , as not every one can translate from audio to rf on 500 o= r > 137 ! > > Thanks > > Graham ,, > > *From:* Andy Talbot > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 17, 2009 7:55 AM > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > *Subject:* Re: LF: RE: Syncback software > > Easily, all you need is a five second transmission of carrier at xx:05:25 > xx:20:25 etc > But accurate timing to at least one second accuracy is essential, so the P= C > clock will have to be set continuously. > > Andy G4JNT > www.g4jnt.com > > > 2009/3/16 Graham > >> Andy, >> >> Is there any way the slots could be filled using a pc ... ? if a small >> exe could be run to make a cw pulse then that would be no problem ? >> >> G .. >> >> *From:* Andy Talbot >> *Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2009 9:36 PM >> *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> *Subject:* Re: LF: RE: Syncback software >> >> See you just have - got quite a shock until I realised the noise had >> plummeted as well. >> Any takers for the 5 and 6 minute slots? >> >> Andy G4JNT >> www.g4jnt.com >> >> >> 2009/3/16 Gary - G4WGT >> >>> *Andy,* >>> >>> ** >>> >>> *OK, I will insert an attenuator at the antenna socket (that=92s an easy >>> move) & watch how it performs. It is switched at 10dB steps so I will st= art >>> at 10db of course.* >>> >>> ** >>> >>> *Cheers,* >>> >>> ** >>> >>> *Gary.* >>> >>> ** >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> *From:* owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto: >>> owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] *On Behalf Of *Andy Talbot >>> *Sent:* 16 March 2009 20:45 >>> >>> *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>> *Subject:* Re: LF: RE: Syncback software >>> >>> >>> >>> Doesn't matter which - just total system gain. That S/W works best if >>> the noise threshold rides at about 10dB above the baseline, then it all= ows >>> for up to 70 - 80dB of signal peaks. >>> >>> >>> Andy G4JNT >>> www.g4jnt.com >>> >>> 2009/3/16 Gary - G4WGT >>> >>> Alan, >>> >>> When you wrote :- >>> >>> my only comment is that you may have too much gain in the system. >>> >>> Are you meaning sound card or receiver gain? >>> >>> Gary. >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>> >>> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Alan Melia >>> Sent: 16 March 2009 19:38 >>> >>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>> Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software >>> >>> Hi Gary my only comment is that you may have too much gain in the system= . >>> It >>> is sometimes better to have the noise further down nearer the axis. >>> >>> I am afraid there is a major problem with this kind of beacon, when the >>> fading period is shorter than the sampling interval, so you dont really >>> know >>> what the path is doing. The only reliable points are the peaks, the >>> troughs >>> dont really mean anything without some very sophisticated analysis and >>> probably two spaced receivers. However it does give a snapshot of the >>> band >>> without taking up too much bandwidth (this was what was required for 5MH= z >>> too). Despite all the data collected very little analysis has actually b= e >>> done on the 5MHz data collected by this program. The one succesfull bit >>> of >>> work was that published in Radcom by Marcis Walden G0IJZ. I used it for >>> some >>> time whilst Andy was testing the Poldhu beacon on 160m and also during >>> the >>> 1st two months that ran. I was certainly surprised by the daytime path o= n >>> 160m from here. I have seen the data collected in Canada via Joe Craig >>> VO1NA >>> and it is difficult to see how to use it. >>> >>> Still if you dont collect the data you will never know!! >>> >>> Alan G3NYK >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Gary - G4WGT" >>> To: >>> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 6:35 PM >>> Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software >>> >>> >>> > Hi Graham, LF, >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > The original HTML Code for the 2 minute refresh is still inserted into >>> the >>> > page format, so upload is 30 minute intervals with Syncback & 2 minute >>> > refresh. I have left the refresh in case I revert back to the original >>> > grabber page. I will look at changing it if I continue to use the >>> beacon >>> > chart upload. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > I would like to have feedback from the LF group regarding the page, if >>> you >>> > check it out periodically, is it useful to you, what are you looking >>> for. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > You can view the chart on my web site at :- >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > 73 >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Gary - G4WGT. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > _____ >>> > >>> > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>> > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham >>> > Sent: 16 March 2009 17:20 >>> > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>> > Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Hi Gary, >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > The page seemed to refresh quite often ... are there two settings ? >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > G .. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > From: Gary - G4WGT >>> > >>> > Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:40 AM >>> > >>> > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>> > >>> > Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Hi Graham, LF, >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > You wrote :- >>> > >>> > >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute >>> > intervals. <<< that could be backed off to 15 mins as the beacon only >>> > sends every 15 ?? >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > I mentioned in my previous mail to ignore the text on the page as it >>> was >>> > originally for grabber 1 for when I upgrade the web site (to a new >>> design >>> & >>> > better navigation etc), also mentioned is that upload is every 30 >>> minutes. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > If the uploaded chart proves useful or interesting to operators & >>> viewers >>> > then I will change the text & make it a permanent feature for the >>> > foreseeable future. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > BTW :- >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > For those of you who are not familiar with the chart - >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > The RED trace is Andy's (G4JNT) beacon signal & the BLACK trace is the >>> noise >>> > level at my QTH. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > The Blue & GREEN are not in use & should be ignored on this chart as >>> they >>> > are for the other beacons used when monitoring on the 5MHz allocation.= . >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Cheers, >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Gary - G4WGT >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > _____ >>> > >>> > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>> > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham >>> > Sent: 15 March 2009 22:17 >>> > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>> > Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Gary.. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > That looks good ... 0500 looks best time for a qso .. see you then >>> Smile >>> > emoticon >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute >>> > intervals. <<< that could be backed off to 15 mins as the beacon only >>> > sends every 15 ?? >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > the 15 db over the noise in day time is the same at this qth .. look= s >>> like >>> > the big dips round 1900 where just when we where testing .. typical >>> hihi >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > tnx- G .. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > From: Gary - G4WGT >>> > >>> > Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 7:55 PM >>> > >>> > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>> > >>> > Subject: LF: RE: Syncback software >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > LF, >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > I have now got the software, Syncback running correctly (I think). >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > The purpose of this is to upload the chart from Andy's beacon as >>> received >>> > here to my web site periodically, ie. every 30 minutes. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > I now have a receiver running 24/7 monitoring Andy,s beacon on >>> 503.7KHz. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > You can view the chart on my web site at :- >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > For the moment ignore the text on the page as it is originally designe= d >>> to >>> > use with the 500KHz grabber when I renew my web site design. If it is=20= a >>> > useful upload I will make it a permanent feature but may have to exten= d >>> the >>> > frequency coverage of grabber 1 so not to overload the PC with >>> operations >>> > which will cause the PC to struggle. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Let me have your comments please. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > 73 >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Gary - G4WGT. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > _____ >>> > >>> > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>> > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT >>> > Sent: 15 March 2009 16:10 >>> > To: LF -RSGB LF Group >>> > Subject: LF: Syncback software >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Hi LF, >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > If anyone is using Syncback software & can help, please. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > I am tying to upload a file to my website who's filename does not >>> change, >>> > only the file size changes. I tried to do it with Argo-upload but >>> failed >>> so >>> > I downloaded Syncback & still failing. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Syncback gives me the following message :- >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > ********************************** >>> > >>> > Can connect, but unable to change to destination directory: >>> > >>> > /chart01.bmp:not a directory >>> > >>> > ********************************** >>> > >>> > The Syncback help does not give me the answer. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Any help will be appreciated >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Or >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Will Argo-Upload do it? >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Or >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Is there something else to do it? >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Thanks in anticipation, >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > 73, >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > _____ >>> > >>> > >>> > No virus found in this incoming message. >>> > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>> > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.13/2001 - Release Date: >>> 03/14/09 >>> > 06:54:00 >>> > >>> > _____ >>> > >>> > >>> > No virus found in this incoming message. >>> > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>> > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.15/2003 - Release Date: >>> 03/15/09 >>> > 14:07:00 >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.15/2004 - Release Date: 03/16/0= 9 >> 07:04:00 >> >> > ------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.16/2006 - Release Date: 03/17/09 > 07:23:00 > > --001636c5a6b85f825b046553074c Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Try http://www.g4jnt.com/b= eacons.htm=A0=A0=A0=A0and go to =A0PCBCN at the bottom
=A0
This little prog has been there for some time, mostly forgotton, and I&= #39;ve just=A0made a quickie mod to allow seconds into the offset as well as= minutes.
=A0
But, it relies ONLY ON THE PC's INTERNAL CLOCK=A0=A0 which must be=20= kept synchronised to within a second, somehow.
=A0
Use :
Interval=A0 =3D 15
Offset=A0 =3D 5 or 6 Mins and 25 secs,
Duration=A0 =3D 5.
=A0
No guarantees, so watch it for a bit and don't trust for=A0 86400/3= 65.2422 operation until fully proven.=A0
(Midnight rollover has never been tested in anger)
=A0
VB6 source code=A0included for info.
=A0

Andy =A0G4JNT
www= .g4jnt.com


2009/3/17 Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
Ok Andy
=A0
Easily ... that's the=A0 problem= =A0 hihi ..
=A0
Is there anyone tuned in who could writ= e a short code to say ,select the=A0com port, =A0time slot and =A0key the co= m port ?=A0, That way any simple cw tx could be used , as not every=A0 one c= an translate from audio to=A0 rf on 500 or 137 !
=A0
Thanks
=A0
Graham ,,

Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 7:55 AM
Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software

Easily, all you need is a five second transmission of carrier at xx:05:= 25 xx:20:25 etc
But accurate timing to at least one second accuracy is essential, so th= e PC clock will have to be set continuously.

Andy =A0G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com


2009/3/16 Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.u= k>
Andy,
=A0
Is there any way the=A0 slots could be=20= filled using a pc ... ? if a small exe could be run to=A0 make a cw=A0 pulse= then that would be no problem ?
=A0
G ..


See you just have - got quite a shock until I realised the noise had pl= ummeted as well.
Any takers for the 5 and 6 minute slots?
2009/3/16 Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk= >

Andy,

<= /b>=A0

OK, I will inse= rt an attenuator at the antenna socket (that=92s an easy move) & watch h= ow it performs. It is switched at 10dB steps so I will start at 10db of cour= se.

<= /b>=A0

Cheers,<= /font>

<= /b>=A0

Gary.

<= /b>=A0

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_= lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf=20= Of Andy Talbot
Sent: 16 March 2009 20:45=20


To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org
Subject: Re: LF:=20= RE: Syncback software

=A0

Doesn't matter which - just total system gain.=A0 That S/W works best i= f the noise threshold rides at about 10dB above the baseline,=A0 then it all= ows for up to 70 - 80dB of signal peaks.

<= span style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">
Andy =A0G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com

2009/3/16 Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>

Alan,

When you wrote :-

<= span style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">my only comment is that you may have too much= gain in the system.

Are you meaning sound card or receiver gain?

Gary.



-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<= /a>

[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Alan Melia
Sent= : 16 March 2009 19:38

<= span style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF= : RE: Syncback software

Hi Gary my only comment is that you may have too much gain in the system= . It
is sometimes better to have the noise further down nearer the axis..=

I am afraid there is a major problem with this kind of beacon, when=20= the
fading period is shorter than the sampling interval, so you dont really know=
what the path is doing. The only reliable points are the peaks, the trou= ghs
dont really mean anything without some very sophisticated analysis an= d
probably two spaced receivers. However it does give a snapshot of the bandwithout taking up too much bandwidth (this was what was required for 5MHz<= br>too). Despite all the data collected very little analysis has actually be=
done on the 5MHz data collected by this program. The one succesfull bit ofwork was that published in Radcom by Marcis Walden G0IJZ. I used it for so= me
time whilst Andy was testing the Poldhu beacon on 160m and also during= the
1st two months that ran. I was certainly surprised by the daytime path on160m from here. I have seen the data collected in Canada via Joe Craig VO1N= A
and it is difficult to see how to use it.

Still if you dont coll= ect the data you will never know!!

Alan G3NYK




----- Original Message -----
From: &quo= t;Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 6:35 PM
Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback softwa= re


> Hi Graham, LF,
>
>
>
> The origin= al HTML Code for the 2 minute refresh is still inserted into the
> pag= e format, so upload is 30 minute intervals with Syncback & 2 minute
> refresh. I have left the refresh in case I revert back to the original<= br>> grabber page. I will look at changing it if I continue to use the be= acon
> chart upload.
>
>
>
> I would like to h= ave feedback from the LF group regarding the page, if you
> check it out periodically, is it useful to you, what are you looking fo= r.
>
>
>
> You can view the chart on my web site at=20= :-
>
>
>
> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/g= rabber3.html
>
>
>
> 73
>
>
>
> Gary - G4WGT= .
>
>
>
>
>
> =A0 _____
>
>=20= From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham
&= gt; Sent: 16 March 2009 17:20
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software
>
>
>
>=20= Hi Gary,
>
>
>
> The page seemed to =A0refresh quite= often ... are there two settings ?
>
>
>
> G ..
>
>
>
> From: Gary - G4WGT <mailto:g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
><= br>> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:40 AM
>
> To: rsgb_lf_group@bla= cksheep.org
>
> Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software
>
>
><= br>> Hi Graham, LF,
>
>
>
> You wrote :-
><= br>> >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at=20= 2 minute
> intervals. <<< that could be backed off to =A015 mins as the b= eacon only
> sends every 15 ??
>
>
>
> I menti= oned in my previous mail to ignore the text on the page as it was
> or= iginally for grabber 1 for when I upgrade the web site (to a new design
&
> better navigation etc), also mentioned is that upload is every= 30 minutes.
>
>
>
> If the uploaded chart proves us= eful or interesting to operators & viewers
> then I will change th= e text & make it a permanent feature for the
> foreseeable future.
>
>
>
> BTW :-
>
&= gt;
>
> For those of you =A0who are not familiar with the chart=20= -
>
>
>
> The RED trace is Andy's (G4JNT) beacon= signal & the BLACK trace is the
noise
> level at my QTH.
>
>
>
> The Blue &= ; GREEN are not in use & should be ignored on this chart as they
>= are for the other beacons used when monitoring on the 5MHz allocation.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> Gary -=20= G4WGT
>
>
>
>
>
> =A0 _____
>
&= gt; From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham
&= gt; Sent: 15 March 2009 22:17
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software
>
>
>
>=20= Gary..
>
>
>
> That looks good =A0... 0500 looks bes= t time for a qso .. see you then Smile
> emoticon
>
>
>
> >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refres= h at 2 minute
> intervals. <<< that could be backed off to=20= =A015 mins as the beacon only
> sends every 15 ??
>
>
>
> the =A015 db over the noise in day time is the =A0same at this=20= qth .. looks
like
> the big dips round 1900 =A0where just when we w= here testing .. =A0typical hihi
>
>
>
> tnx- G .. >
>
>
> From: Gary - G4WGT <mailto:g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
><= br>> Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 7:55 PM
>
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksh= eep.org
>
> Subject: LF: RE: Syncback software
>
>
>
&= gt; LF,
>
>
>
> I have now got the software, Syncbac= k running correctly (I think).
>
>
>
> The purpose o= f this is to upload the chart from Andy's beacon as received
> here to my web site periodically, ie. every 30 minutes.
>
>=
>
> I now have a receiver running 24/7 monitoring Andy,s beacon= on 503.7KHz.
>
>
>
> You can view the chart on my w= eb site at :-
>
>
>
> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber= 3.html
>
>
>
> For the moment ignore the text on= the page as it is originally designed to
> use with the 500KHz grabber when I renew my web site design. If it is a=
> useful upload I will make it a permanent feature but may have to ex= tend
the
> frequency coverage of grabber 1 so not to overload the P= C with operations
> which will cause the PC to struggle.
>
>
>
> Le= t me have your comments please.
>
>
>
> 73
>>
>
> Gary - G4WGT.
>
>
>
> =A0 ___= __
>
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb= _lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT
> Sent: 15 March 2009 16:10
> To: LF -RSGB LF Group
> Subject= : LF: Syncback software
>
>
>
> Hi LF,
>
&g= t;
>
> If anyone is using Syncback software & can help, plea= se.
>
>
>
> I am tying to upload a file to my website who&#= 39;s filename does not change,
> only the file size changes. I tried t= o do it with Argo-upload but failed
so
> I downloaded Syncback &= ; still failing.
>
>
>
> Syncback gives me the following message :-
&= gt;
>
>
> **********************************
>
&g= t; Can connect, but unable to change to destination directory:
>
> /chart01.bmp:not a directory
>
> **************************= ********
>
> The Syncback help does not give me the answer.
&= gt;
>
>
> Any help will be appreciated
>
>
>
> Or
>
>
>
> Will Argo-Upload do it?
&= gt;
>
>
> Or
>
>
>
> Is there some= thing else to do it?
>
>
>
> Thanks in anticipation,=
>
>
>
> 73,
>
>
>
> Gary - G4WG= T - IO83QP.
>
>
>
> =A0 _____
>
>
>= ; No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.13/2001 - Release Date: 03/14= /09
> 06:54:00
>
> =A0 _____
>
>
> No vi= rus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.15/2003 - Release Date: 03/15= /09
> 14:07:00
>
>


=A0


<= /div>


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Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
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--001636c5a6b85f825b046553074c-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da05.mx.aol.com (rly-da05.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.79]) by air-da02.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDA022-a6e49bcd0cb232; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 05:56:52 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da05.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA056-a6e49bcd0cb232; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 05:56:30 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lin3z-0006BX-92 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 09:55:23 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lin3y-0006BO-Od for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 09:55:22 +0000 Received: from vms173003pub.verizon.net ([206.46.173.3]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lin3v-0005uL-Hl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 09:55:22 +0000 Received: from DR2 ([71.184.212.10]) by vms173003.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KGJ0030SKVW0T32@vms173003.mailsrvcs.net> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 04:55:08 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: From: "dave.riley3" To: References: Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 04:55:07 -0500 MIME-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Multi-function beacon Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0008_01C9A52A.3671B1C0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C9A52A.3671B1C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Andy, beacons, I guess one could make a case for detection of the RED signal, but not quite= enuf to make a frequency measurement. Conditions were good for copying DI2AM and SM6BHZ 0415 looks about the best... TNX Dave/17 =20 2009 03 14 22 30 45.02 47.01 48.55 42.18 -240.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 14 22 45 43.03 43.24 45.68 40.27 -240.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 14 23 00 45.43 45.02 42.65 40.50 -240.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 14 23 15 43.51 42.23 44.00 38.20 -240.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 14 23 30 56.28 56.33 55.33 53.31 -240.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 14 23 45 31.58 24.63 30.09 22.93 -240.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 15 00 00 35.53 23.34 25.55 23.21 -240.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 15 00 15 36.16 38.75 40.73 31.88 -240.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 15 00 30 36.42 35.50 35.42 32.79 -240.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 15 00 45 38.51 35.93 36.26 34.17 -240.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 15 01 00 46.15 44.20 42.57 41.68 -240.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 15 01 15 47.14 43.99 46.59 42.46 -240.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 15 01 30 46.24 45.77 45.86 41.55 -240.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 15 01 45 48.21 45.14 45.58 41.76 -240.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 15 02 00 43.59 44.06 51.39 42.51 -240.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 15 02 15 46.14 51.63 46.41 42.56 -240.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 15 02 30 45.87 51.95 48.03 44.00 -240.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 15 02 45 47.14 46.12 47.40 44.04 -240.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 15 03 00 46.38 48.08 46.57 45.21 -240.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 15 03 15 49.76 46.17 46.42 44.66 -240.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 15 03 30 49.45 48.28 46.35 45.51 -240.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 15 03 45 46.82 46.93 45.24 46.18 -240.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 15 04 00 43.42 49.45 45.42 43.88 -240.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 15 04 15 52.30 45.05 43.80 44.29 -240.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 15 04 30 47.92 45.22 44.68 43.71 -240.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 15 04 45 47.18 49.20 46.21 43.64 -240.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 15 05 00 48.01 50.49 48.73 44.97 -240.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 15 05 15 45.51 49.19 49.08 43.85 -240.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 15 05 30 50.47 48.77 49.65 43.66 -240.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 15 05 45 46.20 45.84 52.50 43.86 -240.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C9A52A.3671B1C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Andy, beacons,
 
I guess one could make a case for detection of t= he RED=20 signal, but not quite enuf to make a frequency=20 measurement.
Conditions were good for copying DI2AM and=20 SM6BHZ
0415 looks about the best...
 
TNX Dave/17  
 
 
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------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C9A52A.3671B1C0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (rly-mg03.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.109]) by air-mg09.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG094-a0549c412f55d; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 18:04:49 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG037-a0549c412f55d; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 18:04:40 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lkmp9-0001rS-Ir for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 22:04:19 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lkmp9-0001rJ-8L for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 22:04:19 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.4]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lkmp7-0003cl-Ba for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 22:04:19 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id B92DE4C80F2 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 23:04:14 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99A004C8137 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 23:04:10 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <49C412DA.50906@online.fr> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 23:04:10 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: AFJ 20-03.jpg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Henny , TNX 73 henny van elst a =E9crit : > Hi Jean-Pierre,LF > Nice capture F1afj, > Henny pa3cpm > best 73s > > Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzond= en: > AFJ 20-03.jpg > > Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen=20= het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controlee= r de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen w= orden afgehandeld. > > =20 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg10.mx.aol.com (rly-dg10.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.94]) by air-dg02.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDG022-5f649b622df203; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 04:21:10 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg10.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG101-5f649b622df203; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 04:20:50 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LgxCE-0000nd-QO for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 08:20:18 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LgxCE-0000nU-7y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 08:20:18 +0000 Received: from smtp1-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.1]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LgxCC-0000FO-Gc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 08:20:18 +0000 Received: from smtp1-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp1-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED7319401C2 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 09:20:13 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp1-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAAE5940197 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 09:20:10 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <49B622B9.9070601@online.fr> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 09:20:09 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 184khz Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------040809090504030909050201" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --------------040809090504030909050201 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Henny , Joe , LF , Just a small trace here ! 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj henny van elst a =E9crit : > Hi lf, > nil for Joe, > henny pa3cpm > 73s > > =20 --------------040809090504030909050201 Content-Type: image/jpeg; name="20090310090733.jpg" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline; filename="20090310090733.jpg" /9j/4AAQSkZJRgABAQEBLAEsAAD/2wBDAAUDBAQEAwUEBAQFBQUGBwwIBwcHBw8LCwkMEQ8S 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(v2.12.00) Personal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <143887676.20090301200818@web.de> To: "Walter und Marianne Staubach" CC: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <000a01c99a91$a54a1180$1402a8c0@e7010> References: <000a01c99a91$a54a1180$1402a8c0@e7010> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: michael.oexner@web.de X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19VeUX/g7pHLeTBgXiRiveQmz83glyw9zD1y/DS aOQnMEbEP7mYPweCcpZ7HgpO0TehskebnGJGYrRtpi1M7HaohS 6O8CFHQX60zWlVfHodEw== X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WSPR on 600m Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=LINES_OF_YELLING autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hello Walter, > Dear All on MF, > =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 DI2AG will transmit WSPR tonight. Beginning 18UTC, e= nding 7UTC. > Dial frequency 503.6KHz, beacon on 505.090KHz. Power 1W ERP. > Reports welcome. Please report on WSPRnet.org or this reflector. > =A0 > 73=A0 Walter=A0 DI2AG / DJ2LF 1854 2 1.2 0.505088 0 DI2AG JN59 30 1856 -3 1.8 0.505088 0 DI2AG JN59 30 1858 -5 1.1 0.505088 0 DI2AG JN59 30 1900 -7 1.2 0.505088 0 DI2AG JN59 30 1902 -2 1.1 0.505088 0 DI2AG JN59 30 --=20 vy 73 + gd DX, Michael RX: ICOM R75, SDR-IQ, Perseus Antenna: Wellbrook ALA 1530, Mini-Whip Location: Roschbach, Germany N 49=B015' E 8=B007' / Locator JN49BF Editor of "The European NDB Handbook" & "The North American NDB Handbook" cf. http://lwca.org/miscdocs/oexner/2009NDBinfo.zip From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf06.mx.aol.com (rly-mf06.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.176]) by air-mf10.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMF104-96549b43e8d284; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 17:54:29 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf06.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF063-96549b43e8d284; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 17:54:24 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LgQwi-00039g-Ob for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 21:54:08 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LgQwi-00039X-9t for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 21:54:08 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.151] helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LgQwf-0003MI-Vu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 21:54:08 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3512.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 9CB467000083 for ; Sun, 8 Mar 2009 22:54:00 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.31.236]) by mwinf3512.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 611A87000081 for ; Sun, 8 Mar 2009 22:54:00 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20090308215400397.611A87000081@mwinf3512.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <839B448A31F0490FAC0789261C271A6C@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <0566EF6DE20B4249A3E74859BF9BA2C6@AGB> <9C03FBF153AB478A9B0DBC5580CF20D2@AGB> <28FA0F184B25444F8BA2F1EC5FC42C04@AGB> <006101c9a01b$0d14fc10$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> In-Reply-To: <006101c9a01b$0d14fc10$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 21:53:59 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8064.206 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8064.206 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Ok so who missed this quick qsy ? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_013D_01C9A038.6311BF50" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_013D_01C9A038.6311BF50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Whilst watching Andys beacon ..... captured this ...=20 Oops a daisy seems to be the appropriate technical expression=20 (the wavy line is feature of the R5003)=20 1800 Hz =3D 504 Khz=20 >>> http://uk500khz.googlegroups.com/web/capt0903082130.jpg <<< http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/ufos-and-things-that-go-beep G ..=20 ------=_NextPart_000_013D_01C9A038.6311BF50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Whilst watching Andys beacon ..... captured= this=20 ....
 
Oops a daisy seems to  be the=20  appropriate   technical expression
 
(the wavy line is feature of the R5003)=20
 
1800 Hz =3D 504 Khz
 
>>> http://uk500= khz.googlegroups.com/web/capt0903082130.jpg <<<
 
 
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------=_NextPart_000_013D_01C9A038.6311BF50-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg01.mx.aol.com (rly-mg01.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.107]) by air-mg03.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG032-9f249ce2898150; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 09:39:54 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg01.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG014-9f249ce2898150; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 09:39:38 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LnYk5-0005wd-L4 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 13:38:33 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LnYk5-0005wU-7I for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 13:38:33 +0000 Received: from mailout06.t-online.de ([194.25.134.19]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LnYk3-0000TV-Ck for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 13:38:33 +0000 Received: from fwd11.aul.t-online.de by mailout06.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 1LnYk1-0002cM-03; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 14:38:29 +0100 Received: from e7010 (b7EptQZfghutwQyne03E-YUdYmoE1e6yU+ck6mZ9AaD-RDen1tFavBATCtPaItUZqK@[84.147.194.121]) by fwd11.aul.t-online.de with smtp id 1LnYk1-0ipFJ20; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 14:38:29 +0100 Message-ID: <004201c9afaa$79a0c410$1402a8c0@e7010> From: "Walter und Marianne Staubach" To: Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 14:38:27 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4927.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 X-ID: b7EptQZfghutwQyne03E-YUdYmoE1e6yU+ck6mZ9AaD-RDen1tFavBATCtPaItUZqK X-TOI-MSGID: 61f39475-bebb-4626-864d-00bdcc2edfbc X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: DI2AG WSPR Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003F_01C9AFB2.DB220890" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_003F_01C9AFB2.DB220890 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear All on MF,=20 DI2AG is still running in WSPR, 0.5W ERP on 505.090KHz. TNX to G0H= NW for his numerous reports last night and also to F4DTL and DJ6LB. DI2AG wi= ll be transmitting continually throughout day and night until Monday morning= . Your reports - also daylight propagation - are welcome via WSPR database o= r by e-mail. Thanks a lot.=20 73 Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF BTW: Last eve, when I started WSPR on MF, I observed my signal with ARGO - f= ull band view. Only one modulated carrier on the screen. All ok. For a while= later - sun had disappeared - suddenly the screen was full of vertikal line= s , all modulated like the main carrier. It was a ladder, all lines 100, 200= , 300,.....Hz apart. When the transmitter paused, the carriers were off. Som= ething wrong with the equipment? After a long time I found the reason: I had= switched on the light in my shack. This comes from three energy-saving bulb= s, each 15W. My antenna begins just outside the shack, part of the power mix= ed in the electronic of the bulbs with the rectifiers. When replacing these=20= Bulbs by good olds type Mr. Edison the ghost carriers were off. What do we l= earn? Before saving energy test the bulbs for curious signals :-) 73 Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF =20 ------=_NextPart_000_003F_01C9AFB2.DB220890 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear All on MF,
       =    DI2AG is still=20 running in WSPR, 0.5W ERP on 505.090KHz. TNX to G0HNW for his numerous repor= ts=20 last night and also to F4DTL and DJ6LB. DI2AG will be transmitting continual= ly=20 throughout day and night until Monday morning. Your reports - also daylight=20 propagation - are welcome via WSPR database or by e-mail. Thanks a lot.=20
73
Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF
 
BTW: Last eve, when I started WSPR on MF, I= =20 observed my signal with ARGO - full band view. Only one modulated carrier on= the=20 screen. All ok. For a while later - sun had disappeared - suddenly the scree= n=20 was full of vertikal lines , all modulated like the main carrier. It was a=20 ladder, all lines 100, 200, 300,.....Hz apart. When the transmitter paused,=20= the=20 carriers were off. Something wrong with the equipment? After a long time I f= ound=20 the reason: I had switched on the light in my shack. This comes from three=20 energy-saving bulbs, each 15W. My antenna begins just outside the shack= ,=20 part of the power mixed in the electronic of the bulbs with the rectifiers.=20= When=20 replacing these Bulbs by good olds type Mr. Edison the ghost carriers were o= ff.=20 What do we learn? Before saving energy test the bulbs for curious=20 signals :-)
73
Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF
 
------=_NextPart_000_003F_01C9AFB2.DB220890-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh09.mx.aol.com (rly-mh09.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.145]) by air-mh07.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMH071-bf549c53df1103; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 15:20:35 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh09.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH095-bf549c53df1103; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 15:20:19 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ll6jZ-0008I9-G3 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 19:19:53 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ll6jZ-0008I0-5T for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 19:19:53 +0000 Received: from mta31.charter.net ([216.33.127.82]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ll6jX-00008N-93 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 19:19:53 +0000 Received: from imp11 ([10.20.200.11]) by mta31.charter.net (InterMail vM.7.09.01.00 201-2219-108-20080618) with ESMTP id <20090321191937.NTAF2647.mta31.charter.net@imp11>; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 15:19:37 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.2] ([68.116.200.100]) by imp11 with charter.net id VvKd1b0082AU2w405vKduZ; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 15:19:37 -0400 Message-ID: <49C53DC9.3060108@charter.net> Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 15:19:37 -0400 From: John Andrews User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, 600MRG , "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, & UK) and MedFer bands" X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 508.500 WOLF Tonight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) WE2XGR/3 will be beaconing in WOLF(10) mode on 508.500 kHz tonight (Saturday) from 2300 to 0230 UTC. Reports are welcome. John Andrews, W1TAG / WE2XGR/3 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg08.mx.aol.com (rly-mg08.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.114]) by air-mg07.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG071-a2749c3d9a83c3; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 14:00:37 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg08.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG081-a2749c3d9a83c3; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 14:00:10 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lkj0b-0007Ii-Fb for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 17:59:53 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lkj0b-0007IZ-37 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 17:59:53 +0000 Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de ([212.227.126.177]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lkj0Z-0002Ra-Sf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 17:59:53 +0000 Received: from W1KW (77-20-51-211-dynip.superkabel.de [77.20.51.211]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu6) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0ML29c-1Lkj0T241g-0001oH; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 18:59:45 +0100 Message-ID: <002301c9a985$a6fcce20$c501a8c0@W1KW> From: "Holger 'Geri', DK8KW" To: References: Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 18:59:44 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 Disposition-Notification-To: "Holger 'Geri', DK8KW" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+Q1tey5S2n+Td7NeupnWSZUfU4o2pupve3JhO LKsddzBsjTpEAJvNjExAYUlex9poffm5TxGvdb8JGEVDaSO2xd d0/c4vK0hcvBPo590Wv0A== X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Subject: LF: Re: DI2BO Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Victor, Henny and Nicolas, Thanks for the reception reports of DI2BO. Especially in relation to PIA this gives an interesting picture about what is possible even with low power. Vy 73 Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO (currently on 440.015 kHz) ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "blacksheep" Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 8:41 PM Subject: LF: DI2BO > Good copy DI2BO 440KHz 19:39z > > 73 > > Victor ----- Original Message ----- From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:00 AM Subject: LF: DI2BO 15-03.jpg Hi LF, Capture DI2BO, Henny pa3cpm Best 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: di2bo 15-03.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld. ----- Original Message ----- From: F4DTL@aol.com To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 2:05 AM Subject: Re: LF: DI2BO Nice copy this evening,with the strong PIA beacon on 440 kHz F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP RX : Icom IC7200 Ant: LF/MF Miniwhip From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (rly-dd04.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.151]) by air-dd04.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDD043-b7049ae759529d; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 07:35:39 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD042-b7049ae759529d; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 07:35:36 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LeqJw-0004Bx-Rp for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 12:35:32 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LeqJw-0004Bo-FK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 12:35:32 +0000 Received: from qw-out-1920.google.com ([74.125.92.148]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LeqJv-0004qC-FI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 12:35:32 +0000 Received: by qw-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 4so2815027qwk.16 for ; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 04:35:29 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=qNWfNR8m/quAzwjNGvRirBgZ8cZrQ5Q5A7hn5VbujJM=; b=G65AVUW8XmsFC7C26WP1ZYR2VPvIraRsDa8rBZ29Vy5hMYuOnsAGBNykeRdc1Crloc UPD0DOymAREQ9EaBQO7ztNLpRe69HCbaqzQU2sy7s73fCXrmayZjLNM5w2mmW4YAi8K5 ehHKX4tmx6STtYTrPFtPrEiJzi5QUGpTM3xdY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=XKoFeRwzk+AEQ8TUvh9vXfDnkMabvdfLDdh0KsUFGXWjRdTS/OHbCvw5jFVv03amfb pDnCoCw/547hZ4ll+/Lgvu7PqJsOmtTrbz8GJ1EMjhc1PSQ4MRtnm1FwA1c51RFCZ33X VYJ7Vq8PKA8fhGQyDPoeT8lq08k8dMDuMV8oM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.36.202 with SMTP id u10mr11520888qad.124.1236170129517; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 04:35:29 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 07:35:29 -0500 Message-ID: <57a24ca70903040435w47c2acafla5ef37fcb2088872@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: XGJ report Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m257.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Marco, Thanks for the capture! 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ On 3/4/09, Scholz, Marco wrote: > Hello Warren, > I copied your signal from ~22:40 - 00:40 and ~3:30 - 4:30UTC. > Attached a strong peak "X" around 4:00am UTC. > > Vy73 > Marco > DD7PC > JN49ax > > mailto:dd7pc@gmx.de > http:/dd7pc.qsl.nu > -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (rly-dd01.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.148]) by air-dd08.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD083-b5849cf2b3b47; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 04:03:29 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD012-b5849cf2b3b47; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 04:03:10 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lnpxh-0007xp-KD for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 09:01:45 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lnpxh-0007xg-7G for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 09:01:45 +0100 Received: from dx.ru ([80.68.4.13]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lnpxe-0007y3-Oo for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 09:01:45 +0100 Received: from [85.26.183.18] (helo=UR5IBG) by dx.ru with esmtpa auth=ed@dx.ru id 1LnpxW-000BeA-CU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 12:01:36 +0400 Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 12:01:01 +0400 From: Ed RU6LA X-Mailer: The Bat! (v4.0.7) Professional Organization: Ed Lesnichy X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <64634259.20090329120101@dx.ru> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 1.3 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.332 Subject: LF: XGJ strong Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------E99DFC2412F34F" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------------E99DFC2412F34F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear LF enthusiasts! XGJ was very strong from 3z till 5z in 60s mode of Argo Now see some traces (o to M) on abt 710 in 10s mode 73! 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with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LfFY7-0005Py-DO for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 15:31:51 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LfFY7-0005Pp-22 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 15:31:51 +0000 Received: from smtp2-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.2]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LfFY6-0000hD-7F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 15:31:50 +0000 Received: from smtp2-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp2-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id B74D94B009F for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 16:31:47 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp2-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id A84EB4B00FD for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 16:31:44 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <49AFF060.3070309@online.fr> Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 16:31:44 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <8FA0F64CAE294E9681BFE4D22D1EB2D4@ns94d01ae4d850> In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: QRV Again on 1600m Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Joe , I listening tonight your signal ! 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj jcraig@mun.ca a =E9crit : > Dear LF Group, > > The antenna wire is up again. 184.5093 kHz 10 watts 0.5 amps to 100m wire > at 10m height. QRSS75 24/7 > > Reports most welcomed! > > 73 & GL > Joe VO1NA > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me04.mx.aol.com (rly-me04.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.38]) by air-me04.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME044-9b449cbcbbd15f; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:39:22 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me04.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME048-9b449cbcbbd15f; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:38:55 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LmuSj-0002xm-EI for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 18:37:57 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LmuSj-0002xd-0F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 18:37:57 +0000 Received: from ttsmtp-2.cpwnetworks.com ([62.24.128.243] helo=ttsmtp.cpwnetworks.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LmuSf-0000Hy-Ps for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 18:37:56 +0000 X-Path: TalkTalk-smtp X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AmIJADVoy0lZ8hBR/2dsb2JhbACCJSYIgWyHHgbJHYN3Bg Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([89.242.16.81]) by ttsmtp.cpwnetworks.com with SMTP; 26 Mar 2009 18:37:47 +0000 Message-ID: <008d01c9ae41$f5fc4df0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 18:37:46 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.014,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Lazy Man's CW made it to Venus and back Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_008A_01C9AE41.F5CA4170" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_008A_01C9AE41.F5CA4170 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MessageWolf. It looks like LAZY MANS CW has come in useful.=20 Everyone knows what LMCW means no need to mention QRSSSSSSSSSSSS ie LMCW 3,=20= 10, 30 etc MAL/G3KEV ----- Original Message -----=20 From: dl4yhf@freenet.de=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 5:11 PM Subject: LF: Lazy Man's CW made it to Venus and back Greetings everyone, Not really LF, but QRSS... A group of radio amateurs from AMSAT-DL has successfully transmitted a (ve= ry short) message in QRSS, consisting of the two letters "HI" (im memoriam o= f old OSCARS) to Venus on 2.4 GHz, and received the reflection. Each TX/RX over lasted for about 5 minutes (the travelling time). The tran= smitter was a 5 kW magnetron disciplined to a narrow-band transmitter. Detai= ls on the AMSAT-DL website. The German HR TV will send a documentation tonig= ht at 19:30 (local). The EVE (Earth-Venus-Earth) details follow tomorrow on=20= Hessischer Rundfunk. 73, Wolf DL4YHF (from the IUZ in Bochum) -- =20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.28/2022 - Release Date: 03/25/09= 07:16:00 ------=_NextPart_000_008A_01C9AE41.F5CA4170 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message
Wolf.
It looks like LAZY MANS CW has come in usef= ul.=20
Everyone knows what LMCW means no need to m= ention=20 QRSSSSSSSSSSSS ie LMCW 3, 10, 30 etc
MAL/G3KEV
 
----- Original Message -----
dl4yhf@= freenet.de
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 5:11= =20 PM
Subject: LF: Lazy Man's CW made it=20= to=20 Venus and back

Greetings everyone,

Not really LF, but QRSS...
A=20 group of radio amateurs from AMSAT-DL has successfully transmitted a (very= =20 short) message in QRSS, consisting of the two letters "HI" (im memoriam of= old=20 OSCARS) to Venus on 2.4 GHz, and received the reflection.
Each TX/RX ov= er=20 lasted for about 5 minutes (the travelling time). The transmitter was a 5=20= kW=20 magnetron disciplined to a narrow-band transmitter. Details on the AMSAT-D= L=20 website. The German HR TV will send a documentation tonight at 19:30 (loca= l).=20 The EVE (Earth-Venus-Earth) details follow tomorrow on Hessischer=20 Rundfunk.

73,
 Wolf DL4YHF
  (from the IUZ in=20 Bochum)

--
=20


No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG -=20 www.avg.com
Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.28/2022 - Releas= e=20 Date: 03/25/09 07:16:00
------=_NextPart_000_008A_01C9AE41.F5CA4170-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md09.mx.aol.com (rly-md09.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.147]) by air-md07.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD072-92849c96037345; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 18:35:59 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md09.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD098-92849c96037345; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 18:35:38 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LmFCv-0003R9-L7 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 22:34:53 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LmFCv-0003R0-5A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 22:34:53 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.151] helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LmFCt-0006Q2-Q5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 22:34:53 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3512.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 3D9D3700008A for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 23:34:34 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.7.94]) by mwinf3512.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 01A667000089 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 23:34:33 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20090324223434686.01A667000089@mwinf3512.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <35BC7A5BC84143BB916FEAA9FA0B67CF@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <864ED1778706409D9A640FF89C5F22C7@Silver> In-Reply-To: <864ED1778706409D9A640FF89C5F22C7@Silver> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 22:34:33 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8064.206 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8064.206 X-Spam-Score: 1.8 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166,UPPERCASE_50_75=0.591 Subject: LF: WSPR G0NBD 502.4 DIAL NOW TILL LATER POSS OVER NIGHT Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_016F_01C9ACD0.B4484520" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE, LINES_OF_YELLING,LINES_OF_YELLING_2,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME, SUBJ_ALL_CAPS,UPPERCASE_50_75 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_016F_01C9ACD0.B4484520 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Making hay while the sun (doesn't shine)=20 G0NBD 502.4 DIAL NOW TILL LATER POSS OVER NIGHT=20 Tnx- G .. ------=_NextPart_000_016F_01C9ACD0.B4484520 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Maki= ng =20 hay while the  sun (doesn't shine)
 
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<= /DIV> ------=_NextPart_000_016F_01C9ACD0.B4484520-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (rly-ma08.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.52]) by air-ma02.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMA022-8c249afe30a67; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 09:35:17 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA084-8c249afe30a67; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 09:34:53 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LfEca-0004YO-Km for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 14:32:24 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LfEca-0004YF-4g for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 14:32:24 +0000 Received: from psmtp08.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.22]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LfEcY-0008IQ-TP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 14:32:24 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp08.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KG100EDSF0ICZ@psmtp08.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 15:31:30 +0100 (MET) Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 15:31:29 +0100 From: henny van elst To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <1Lf1BU-0Vc4bw0@fwd01.t-online.de> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: capture 67hz.jpg Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_oLSa5gGCHHkr6LXNa8cNOw)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_oLSa5gGCHHkr6LXNa8cNOw) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT T-Online eMail -Tu Markus and Ha-jo Henny pa3cpm best 73s ---- Original Message ----- From: hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:11 AM Subject: Re: LF: Re: capture 67hz.jpg "Markus Vester" schrieb: Dear Henny, my QTH is about 400 m from a railway line, and I regularly saw their 16.667 Hz power frequency and several ELF harmonics. The E-fields are relatively strong as the lines normally do not carry a grounded top wire for lightning protection. The "modulation" could be caused by some switching activity. Another origin might be a controlled rectifier on the 50 Hz mains, which could be triggered at a subharmonic frequency. Best regards, Markus, DF6NM Dear Markus, I have even thougth that this "67Hz" in reality might have been 66.667 Hz, and this would open other ideas, such as mixer products between 50 Hz and 16,667 Hz etc. HW? 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB ----- Original Message ----- From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 7:43 PM Subject: LF: capture 67hz.jpg Hi,Lf capture unid signal 67hz,but who ? henny pa3cpm best 73s ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.7/1983 - Release Date: 03/04/09 07:41:00 --Boundary_(ID_oLSa5gGCHHkr6LXNa8cNOw) Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT T-Online eMail
 
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---- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:11 AM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: capture 67hz.jpg

  "Markus Vester" <markusvester@aol.com> schrieb:
Dear Henny,
 
my QTH is about 400 m from a railway line, and I regularly saw their 16.667 Hz power frequency and several ELF harmonics. The E-fields are relatively strong as the lines normally do not carry a grounded top wire for lightning protection. The "modulation" could be caused by some switching activity.
 
Another origin might be a controlled rectifier on the 50 Hz mains, which could be triggered at a subharmonic frequency.
 
Best regards,
Markus, DF6NM


Dear Markus,

I have even thougth that this "67Hz" in reality might have been 66.667 Hz, and this would open other ideas, such as mixer products between 50 Hz and 16,667 Hz etc.

HW?

73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 7:43 PM
Subject: LF: capture 67hz.jpg

Hi,Lf
capture unid signal 67hz,but who ?
henny pa3cpm
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Hi lf,
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Congrats Harry,
 
nice=20 signal in Utrecht
 
73
 
Victor
PA3FNY
JO22NC
-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens Harry=20 Woodhouse
Verzonden: vrijdag 20 maart 2009 8:14
Aan:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Onderwerp: LF: 137 KHz reports=20 please

If I manage to get my temporary mast up in the=20 wind, I hope to transmit CQ tomorrow, Saturday 21st March with QRSS3 on=20 137.68KHz.

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fa+19qcSfkn/AE1f9qdt/wCDRf8AOn14lr23/TV/2p23/gsX/On14lrTT//Z ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C9AA22.0618D330-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma02.mx.aol.com (rly-ma02.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.46]) by air-ma04.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMA044-89149b661142ff; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 08:46:26 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma02.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA023-89149b661142ff; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 08:46:15 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lh1Kd-0003pT-G9 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 12:45:15 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lh1Kd-0003pK-4K for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 12:45:15 +0000 Received: from simone.ucs.mun.ca ([134.153.232.77]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lh1Kb-00022m-2T for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 12:45:15 +0000 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.232.153]) by simone.ucs.mun.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n2ACj1Kv019725 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 10:15:03 -0230 Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 10:15:01 -0230 (NDT) From: jcraig@mun.ca X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <49B622B9.9070601@online.fr> Message-ID: References: <49B622B9.9070601@online.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: 184khz / 503.7 kHz Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-1719232024-1487256019-1236689101=:32747" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) ---1719232024-1487256019-1236689101=:32747 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Thank-you Jean-Pierre, Henny and Jay W1VD for the recent reports. Aside from Jean-Pierre's weak capture this morning and Jay's very clear partial callsign capture, there has been little in the way of reception so far this month. Hopefully conditions will improve before the spring QRN brings up the nosie floor. I listened for Andy's G4JNT transmissions on 503.7 last night but nothing heard. Has anyone on this side of the pond heard them yet? 73 Joe VO1NA On Tue, 10 Mar 2009, "Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 (F1AFJ)" wrote: > Hello Henny , Joe , LF , > > Just a small trace here ! > > 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj > > henny van elst a =E9crit : >> Hi lf, >> nil for Joe, >> henny pa3cpm >> 73s >> >> ---1719232024-1487256019-1236689101=:32747-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da05.mx.aol.com (rly-da05.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.79]) by air-da09.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA092-a7049cb60f33e; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 07:03:21 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da05.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA058-a7049cb60f33e; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 07:03:16 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LmnM5-00081F-Dq for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 11:02:37 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LmnM5-000816-3Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 11:02:37 +0000 Received: from dx.ru ([80.68.4.13]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LmnM2-0007u6-Ax for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 11:02:37 +0000 Received: from 68.35.117.87.donpac.ru ([87.117.35.68] helo=192.168.1.3) by dx.ru with esmtpa auth=ed@dx.ru id 1LmnKi-000MfM-Vp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:01:13 +0300 Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:00:52 +0300 From: Ed RU6LA X-Mailer: The Bat! (v4.0.7) Professional Organization: Ed Lesnichy X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <696227068.20090326140052@dx.ru> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 2.6 (++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.332,RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=1.236 Subject: LF: RU6LA's acty 27-28 mar Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear LF enthusiasts! I'll work 27-28 mar on 137 KHz band 73! Ed RU6LA 136.73.ru From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me06.mx.aol.com (rly-me06.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.40]) by air-me03.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME031-9c149c7edb5aa; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 16:15:04 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me06.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME065-9c149c7edb5aa; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 16:14:46 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LlqX9-0001hK-Lf for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:14:07 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LlqX9-0001hB-6x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:14:07 +0000 Received: from imr-m08.mx.aol.com ([64.12.138.210]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LlqX7-0000M9-8D for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:14:07 +0000 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imr-m08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id l.d01.4e5a46e1 (34957) for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 16:12:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Silver (g229167006.adsl.alicedsl.de [92.229.167.6]) by cia-da06.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILCIADA066-888d49c7ed40f3; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 16:12:49 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Markus Vester" To: References: <49C76B3C.7933.6BFBAD@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:12:47 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: XGJ - excellent Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01C9ABF3.BC1623E0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.1 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_40_50, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C9ABF3.BC1623E0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_000A_01C9ABF3.BC1623E0" ------=_NextPart_001_000A_01C9ABF3.BC1623E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Warren, you were unusually strong here as well last midnight. 73 de Markus,=20= DF6NM ------=_NextPart_001_000A_01C9ABF3.BC1623E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Warren, you were unusually strong here as well last midnight. 73 de Markus, DF6NM
 
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rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 20:00:26 +0000 Received: from mail-fx0-f174.google.com ([209.85.220.174]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Leamv-0007DZ-Uu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 20:00:26 +0000 Received: by fxm22 with SMTP id 22so3041734fxm.4 for ; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 12:00:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=fFpxHNKkvCcNTNcg/dJZjxt1/EQkc1hb7QOdnO4748k=; b=cyNVsH6dSW+3DIMf0Ci8e7kQXYgC/+IhQQsdsAYMCU6XGztAp3/4s1k+Nf4EPMRp1M Zc+fdKJDMCG8wPj75N2V0oy5k5Tv7AyhVhaSYaxMIw+Fv21pspiJ/umNCW0nuJLhQPy0 F+o/mjBYeLTiIH1uV3+8kOkP3Xk506uUUY3Gc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=DDW2TE1lkkqw9KOb+oykIKKng+U73nM63QjM/DKdFO0oevfdqdxW1bGwYZp1izXlYU 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rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d236.2 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : fail X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --001636c5bab3673c5104643c625d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit SM6BHZ is TX'ing WSPR now on (I make it about 504.5) dial 503.00 USB. 1956 -4 0.9 0.504503 0 SM6BHZ JO57 30 Chris G3XVL Ipswich (JO02NB) --001636c5bab3673c5104643c625d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable SM6BHZ is TX'ing WSPR now on (I make it about 504.5) dial 503.00 USB.
1956=A0 -4=A0 0.9=A0=A0 0.504503=A0 0 SM6BHZ JO57 30

Chris G3XVL= Ipswich (JO02NB)
--001636c5bab3673c5104643c625d-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md05.mx.aol.com (rly-md05.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.143]) by air-md04.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD043-90249c9ec3fd0; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 04:33:10 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md05.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD052-90249c9ec3fd0; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 04:33:05 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LmOXb-0006h6-PY for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 08:32:51 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LmOXb-0006gx-3z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 08:32:51 +0000 Received: from smtp3.wanadoo.co.uk ([193.252.22.156] helo=smtp3.freeserve.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LmOXZ-0002K8-4r for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 08:32:51 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3212.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id B28DF7000086 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 09:32:41 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.52.48]) by mwinf3212.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 300CA7000084 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 09:32:41 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20090325083241196.300CA7000084@mwinf3212.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <5829CB671231499CB310B679860662AF@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <864ED1778706409D9A640FF89C5F22C7@Silver> <35BC7A5BC84143BB916FEAA9FA0B67CF@AGB> <6F3FEF77C5114A42BB288377EFF89835@2a2d7ed321c6425> <4C20F995A547459D94F4739B09D1441F@DR2> In-Reply-To: <4C20F995A547459D94F4739B09D1441F@DR2> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 08:32:40 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8064.206 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8064.206 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: Re: LF: Re: AW: WSPR G0NBD 502.4 DIAL NOW TILL LATER POSS OVER NIGHT Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002A_01C9AD24.42AE0AE0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE,LINES_OF_YELLING, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME,UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_002A_01C9AD24.42AE0AE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks for the report, Looks like 0100 gmt was best time ? What a night .. wx caused pa to trip on swr .. this looks to be when the pa= tripped at 0306 so will of run from 24-00 to 0300 on 100 watts then d= ropped by 14 db=20 2009-03-25 03:06 G0NBD 0.503939 -18 0 IO83lk +13 0.020 G0KTN= IO81ti 236 147=20 G ..=20 From: dave.riley3=20 Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 1:20 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Cc: 600MRG=20 Subject: LF: Re: AW: WSPR G0NBD 502.4 DIAL NOW TILL LATER POSS OVER NIGHT QSL G0NBD 090325 0050 9 -21 1.5 0.503938 G0NBD IO83 13 Hello Graham, You still had 10 DBs to spare for a decode!!! Try 2 milliwatts... Looks like 155,700 miles per watt... Good on ya... PSE QSL VIA E-MAIL... ( hi hi ) Dave @ WD2XSH/17 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Beckmann, Gerhard=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 7:47 PM Subject: LF: AW: WSPR G0NBD 502.4 DIAL NOW TILL LATER POSS OVER NIGHT =20 Hello Graham, =20 nice signal here in JN59LN =20 2338 -17 1.8 0.503980 -1 G0NBD IO83 13 =20 Vy 73 de Gerhard / DK6NI =20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =20 =20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacks= heep.org] Im Auftrag von Graham Gesendet: Dienstag, 24. M=E4rz 2009 23:35 An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Betreff: LF: WSPR G0NBD 502.4 DIAL NOW TILL LATER POSS OVER NIGHT=20 =20 Making hay while the sun (doesn't shine)=20 =20 G0NBD 502.4 DIAL NOW TILL LATER POSS OVER NIGHT=20 =20 Tnx- G .. =20 =20 =20 =20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.5.283 / Virus Database: 270.11.27/2021 - Release Date: 03/24/09 1= 6:00:00 ------=_NextPart_000_002A_01C9AD24.42AE0AE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks for the report,
 
Looks like 0100 gmt was best time ?<= /DIV>
 
 
What a night .. wx caused pa to trip on swr= .. this=20 looks to be when the  pa tripped at  0306  so will of run=20 from  24-00 to  0300 on 100 watts  then  dropped by 14 d= b=20
2009-03-25 03:06   G0NBD &nb= sp;=20 0.503939   -18   0   IO83lk  =20 +13   0.020   G0KTN   IO81ti  =20 236   147
 
G ..

Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 1:20 AM
Cc: 600MRG
Subject: LF: Re: AW: WSPR G0NBD 502.4 DIAL NOW TILL LATER POSS O= VER=20 NIGHT

QSL G0NBD
 
 
090325 0050   9 -21  1.5 &nb= sp;=20 0.503938  G0NBD IO83 13
 
 
Hello Graham,
 
You still had 10 DBs to spare for a decode!!! Tr= y 2=20 milliwatts...
 
Looks like 155,700 miles per=20 watt...
 
Good on ya... PSE QSL VIA E-MAIL... ( hi hi=20 )
 
 
Dave @ WD2XSH/17
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Beckmann, Gerhard
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 7:47=20 PM
Subject: LF: AW: WSPR G0NBD 502.4 D= IAL=20 NOW TILL LATER POSS OVER NIGHT

 

Hello=20 Graham,

 

nice=20 signal here in JN59LN

 

2338=20  -17  1.8   0.503980 -1 G0NBD IO83=20 13

 

Vy 73=20= de=20 Gerhard  /  DK6NI

 

= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

 

=  <= /FONT>

Von: owner-= rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= ] Im Auftrag von <= /SPAN>Graham
Gesendet: Dienstag, 24. M=E4rz 2009=20 23:35
An: rsgb_= lf_group@blacksheep.org
Betreff: LF: WSPR G0NBD 502.4 DIAL NOW=20 TILL LATER POSS OVER NIGHT

 

Making =20 hay while the  sun (doesn't shine)=20

 

G0NBD=20 502.4 DIAL NOW TILL LATER POSS OVER NIGHT=20

 

Tnx-=20 G ..

 

 

 

 =


No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG -=20 www.avg.com
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------=_NextPart_000_002A_01C9AD24.42AE0AE0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg10.mx.aol.com (rly-mg10.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.116]) by air-mg06.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMG063-a3749c343a856; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 03:20:25 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg10.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG101-a3749c343a856; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 03:20:09 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LkZ1L-0007a8-NC for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 07:19:59 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LkZ1L-0007Zz-B7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 07:19:59 +0000 Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com ([209.85.146.182]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LkZ1I-0006WI-RV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 07:19:59 +0000 Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id l24so576505waf.4 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 00:19:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=YLHPIiiDCLiqXtRLGo+5hsjI2atcimmg1nILY2qDRGA=; b=kb38CDBspG3hiBeKVe7DN6fWRhRpRWcaIUDlo2/fqM1E24zkEykHUZ+z8avzUOIUKO Gm025NiokwYyT6F0He9OJO91oZ7G0HKVHLc4pOZucLO1GdjI+HfT49HB86BKrQzE8SRZ p65fhbUV5hXJFDuiwogO1Fok6fhT2v13lEET4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=w3XSvqEutHGIItpEejWFSZQlMRvYaX6Hu0vlCVGxw5HVe0gr+Efzl4hjijMCOWwBw9 XJ6/5CJ4jt+efCK0yB0wtCD/72ajAh+4YXlVTDgQLWkIOt8F5Gys7q+SsmgZAv51pXf5 jrDM7lIodl7Sf5edJd1nfZhLBYDEkXbkVgQrc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.114.177.1 with SMTP id z1mr2263778wae.68.1237533592891; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 00:19:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 07:19:52 +0000 Message-ID: <5931f8db0903200019t15b9a653ua1f46367492d0ec6@mail.gmail.com> From: Harry Woodhouse To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_00_10=0.642,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 137 KHz reports please Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636456e5a33b239046587be58 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m269.2 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : fail X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --001636456e5a33b239046587be58 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If I manage to get my temporary mast up in the wind, I hope to transmit CQ tomorrow morning Saturday 21st March with QRSS3 on 137.68 KHz. Running 825 watts input to Decca Tx which was scrapped from the Isles of Scilly, to a 230 feet long Marconi T, 30 feet up. Earth is a disused iron water main about 5 miles long. Rx is lazy loop. QTH is at Porthpean, IO 70 OH, on the cliffs looking out to sea to the east. Reports most welcome, but I am 79 and struggling! Please be patient! Harry G3MFW --001636456e5a33b239046587be58 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If I manage to get my temporary mast up in the wind, I hope to transmit CQ t= omorrow morning Saturday 21st March with QRSS3 on 137.68 KHz. Running 825 wa= tts input to Decca Tx which was scrapped from the Isles of Scilly, to a 230=20= feet long Marconi T, 30 feet up. Earth is a disused iron water main about 5=20= miles long. Rx is lazy loop. QTH is at Porthpean, IO 70 OH, on the cliffs lo= oking out to sea to the east. Reports most welcome, but I am 79 and struggli= ng! Please be patient!
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Harry G3MFW
--001636456e5a33b239046587be58-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df12.mx.aol.com (rly-df12.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.25]) by air-df02.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDF024-59349c587db123; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 20:35:43 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df12.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF122-59349c587db123; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 20:35:42 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LlBeX-00032R-5R for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 00:35:01 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LlBeW-00032I-Kf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 00:35:00 +0000 Received: from mail-qy0-f107.google.com ([209.85.221.107]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LlBeT-0002qp-Tg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 00:35:00 +0000 Received: by qyk5 with SMTP id 5so1959905qyk.30 for ; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 17:33:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=UH0JIQSGtTUC9SM8ywc8eY7NHHbNxj6NzfmDJuhHJaY=; b=K5RiXPtcuPZixyfD8rXtfP9NG393eIIfBJ3edypDw75t5/pSRbILyhYYL0wVCoNww4 suyj+j4YUY5lGMbjBLo2pViB4P+5BfRciPKwScjzErCOXmpXsvthQJjsOFpX6X2MGvyW tEczgFrEwRDAz1fK60zGdBwdoKBzQic84TQLs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=u2GtNFysU2OC5KOdyLgOP4OD4IQw0x6q1k0UZOQSjy7LqlNZfsYdjVZCkUzcafWuZc 5CUYAlQb/YFTMNpzrd8qWQIpdXOzlfVzK4uyqmLjFS2JieuAmOZ+CsfkjF5uL6qWyILC 2X5sKkFSBRz4F0jq0e7zRyam1SMHlf+fs/scA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.19.197 with SMTP id c5mr7545597qab.24.1237682030659; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 17:33:50 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <49C53DC9.3060108@charter.net> References: <49C53DC9.3060108@charter.net> Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 20:33:50 -0400 Message-ID: <57a24ca70903211733k4fe4a03h2e580ead8187e21e@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: Re: LF: 508.500 WOLF Tonight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m228.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) The return of Wolfman Jack? -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 3:19 PM, John Andrews wrote: > WE2XGR/3 will be beaconing in WOLF(10) mode on 508.500 kHz tonight > (Saturday) from 2300 to 0230 UTC. Reports are welcome. > > John Andrews, W1TAG / WE2XGR/3 > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg05.mx.aol.com (rly-mg05.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.111]) by air-mg09.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG092-a1549c893ca24; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 04:03:26 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg05.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG057-a1549c893ca24; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 04:03:24 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lm1bB-0006cc-SG for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 08:03:01 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lm1bB-0006cT-8z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 08:03:01 +0000 Received: from mail6.ssmb.com ([199.67.203.180] helo=mail.citigroup.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lm1b9-00024v-S4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 08:03:01 +0000 Received: from imbarc-eu02.eur.nsroot.net (imbarc-eu02 [169.186.216.28]) by imbaspam-eu02.eur.nsroot.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/SSMB_EXT/ev: 22534 $) with ESMTP id n2O82pN7017267 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 08:02:52 GMT Received: from mailhub-dc2.eu.ssmb.com (mailhub-dc2.eur.nsroot.net [169.186.205.199]) by imbarc-eu02.eur.nsroot.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/SSMB_QQQ_IN/1.1) with ESMTP id n2O82ieI002585 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 08:02:44 GMT Received: from exuksm05.eur.nsroot.net (Exuksm05.eur.nsroot.net [169.183.26.34]) by mailhub-dc2.eu.ssmb.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/CG_HUB) with ESMTP id n2O82hUJ020792 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 08:02:43 GMT Received: from exukmb49.eur.nsroot.net ([169.183.32.64]) by exuksm05.eur.nsroot.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Tue, 24 Mar 2009 08:02:34 +0000 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6619.12 Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 08:02:31 -0000 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: LF: Re: XGJ - excellent Thread-Index: Acmr+nyATe1i8ua2TCmDYPxqG5y83wAW6u9A From: "Scholz, Marco " To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Mar 2009 08:02:34.0065 (UTC) FILETIME=[E37E7410:01C9AC56] X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 169.186.247.38 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C9AC56.E22698B8" Subject: RE: LF: Re: XGJ - excellent X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) ------_=_NextPart_001_01C9AC56.E22698B8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Warren, copied your signal last night between 0:35 - 5:20 UTC. Received some charate= rs like in the attached sample.=20 vy73 Marco DD7PC in JN49ax [Rx: Yaesu FT857 with G0MRF 137KHz preamp and PA0DRT Miniwhip] -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksh= eep.org] On Behalf Of Warren Ziegler Sent: 23 March 2009 21:57 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: Re: XGJ - excellent Thank you Markus, I saw the signal last night on your 'grabber -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 3:12 PM, Markus Vester wrote: > Warren,=A0you were unusually strong here as well last midnight. 73 de Mark= us, > DF6NM > ------_=_NextPart_001_01C9AC56.E22698B8 Content-Type: image/jpeg; name="xgj_240309_jn49ax.JPG" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Description: xgj_240309_jn49ax.JPG Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="xgj_240309_jn49ax.JPG" /9j/4AAQSkZJRgABAQEAyADIAAD/2wBDABsSFBcUERsXFhceHBsgKEIrKCUlKFE6PTBCYFVl ZF9VXVtqeJmBanGQc1tdhbWGkJ6jq62rZ4C8ybqmx5moq6T/2wBDARweHigjKE4rK06kbl1u pKSkpKSkpKSkpKSkpKSkpKSkpKSkpKSkpKSkpKSkpKSkpKSkpKSkpKSkpKSkpKSkpKT/wAAR CAAfAQADASIAAhEBAxEB/8QAHwAAAQUBAQEBAQEAAAAAAAAAAAECAwQFBgcICQoL/8QAtRAA AgEDAwIEAwUFBAQAAAF9AQIDAAQRBRIhMUEGE1FhByJxFDKBkaEII0KxwRVS0fAkM2JyggkK FhcYGRolJicoKSo0NTY3ODk6Q0RFRkdISUpTVFVWV1hZWmNkZWZnaGlqc3R1dnd4eXqDhIWG h4iJipKTlJWWl5iZmqKjpKWmp6ipqrKztLW2t7i5usLDxMXGx8jJytLT1NXW19jZ2uHi4+Tl 5ufo6erx8vP09fb3+Pn6/8QAHwEAAwEBAQEBAQEBAQAAAAAAAAECAwQFBgcICQoL/8QAtREA AgECBAQDBAcFBAQAAQJ3AAECAxEEBSExBhJBUQdhcRMiMoEIFEKRobHBCSMzUvAVYnLRChYk NOEl8RcYGRomJygpKjU2Nzg5OkNERUZHSElKU1RVVldYWVpjZGVmZ2hpanN0dXZ3eHl6goOE hYaHiImKkpOUlZaXmJmaoqOkpaanqKmqsrO0tba3uLm6wsPExcbHyMnK0tPU1dbX2Nna4uPk 5ebn6Onq8vP09fb3+Pn6/9oADAMBAAIRAxEAPwDms/LjH40lPIA+Q4z60m0BMnknp7UCG45x Tu2MkjFIxzjpwMU4bMDJb0wKBg5yx3EZ9RTWJJG7t606Rg7cDA6DtikwM7ehz1NAbiqGIyCO eOtNIA68n2pVOB/T1oOCfTPb0p2AVkwvAJ75pASmGBIb6U4E7CD26H/PaoznvSYCnnknk0Dr ycUEYOKCSxyxz70ABPXmgjHB60A8YPI+tLj5c0ANopSSepzR26UAJmiilOMDFABjJwOaSlxz 1oBx16GgBKUnjv70dDnGKAM59qADgjuTSUvTkGkoAXJyffsKTFGKKACl4x05pKKACiiigApy j16d+abSj2oAM4BAqQzuVC4XA6fKKipzHPGMY7ZoFa5MLqQDOI+ePuimPIZfmfaOOw61F0o7 0Aopa2JjOxj8squz1A5/OkjmePdtx8w53AHNMA3EjIx14pSMZ2/XJ7inuw5Y2F8xpJMsRnHe pBNIqrnaQDwdtQgZXOOc4FJk7etDYcqHvIQ5xjr1xSM7SlQeT9KRhgY3dO1ALY2g8UMbWohz jBoUkHI60HGeOlJSAesrKcjH5CleVmUDAA9gOaYQAOvPpSUBYcrFen8qQHHQCgkHGBik7UAS eazDaSMY9KRJGiJCkc+2aYBk4oIxQG453LkEgDAxgChcdxn+lN6UuecnmgVh6TMhJAHPqKa7 tI2Wxnp6Uh554/CjGc46CgLLcm+1SBdnyEf7oNL9rkPBEePTYKhI+UH1NNoE4p9B8kjSuWbG fal8xlI4Xj2qOindjsSCV1II28dOBTZHLsWOPwFNpc8Y9KXmMdvYkAAfl1pQx2ElRjPpUdLy ePeh6isDMWxnHHoMUlAz2pcnGM8UDP/Z ------_=_NextPart_001_01C9AC56.E22698B8-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de10.mx.aol.com (rly-de10.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.146]) by air-de02.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDE024-50649ae75871ca; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 07:35:39 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de10.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE101-50649ae75871ca; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 07:35:22 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LeqJ7-0004BG-Bw for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 12:34:41 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LeqJ6-0004B7-TT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 12:34:40 +0000 Received: from qw-out-1920.google.com ([74.125.92.145]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LeqJ6-0004iT-5u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 12:34:40 +0000 Received: by qw-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 4so2814728qwk.16 for ; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 04:34:38 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; 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charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d250.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Willem, Thank you for the XGJ capture! 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ On 3/4/09, Willem De Roode wrote: > Capture xgj > 73 sWillem pa3ego > > > -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de05.mx.aol.com (rly-de05.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.141]) by air-de04.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDE043-4d749c0c093216; 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boundary="_fa9f6d78-e594-4a24-928b-44ba495e4d0f_" Subject: LF: XGJ_XKO X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_fa9f6d78-e594-4a24-928b-44ba495e4d0f_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Warren, LF! I saw traces of callsigns XGJ and XKO only. The weather was awful last nigh= t. It was raining and there were strong wind and storm here. But it is clear= now, so I hope this night will be better. 73 Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS=20 _________________________________________________________________ St=E1hn=ECte si zcela nov=FD Messenger 2009! http://download.live.com/messenger=3D --_fa9f6d78-e594-4a24-928b-44ba495e4d0f_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Warren, LF!
I saw traces of  callsigns XGJ and XKO only. The w= eather was awful last night. It was raining and there were strong wind and s= torm here. But it is clear now, so I hope this night will be better..
73

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

St=E1hn=ECte si zcela nov= =FD Messenger 2009! Klikni zde! =3D --_fa9f6d78-e594-4a24-928b-44ba495e4d0f_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd05.mx.aol.com (rly-dd05.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.152]) by air-dd07.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD072-b7949cb97d860; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 10:57:42 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd05.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD053-b7949cb97d860; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 10:57:29 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lmr0y-0001Aj-Fy for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:57:04 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lmr0y-0001Aa-46 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:57:04 +0000 Received: from ttsmtp-3.cpwnetworks.com ([62.24.128.244] helo=ttsmtp.cpwnetworks.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lmr0v-0002na-UZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:57:04 +0000 X-Path: TalkTalk-smtp X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhcGABM1y0lcGcBt/2dsb2JhbACCU4Fshx4GyCuDdgY Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([92.25.192.109]) by ttsmtp.cpwnetworks.com with SMTP; 26 Mar 2009 14:56:52 +0000 Message-ID: <006a01c9ae23$1956d820$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:56:52 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 501.3 carrier Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0067_01C9AE23.191D9FB0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0067_01C9AE23.191D9FB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Has someone left their TX on 501.3 khz. It seems to be there this past coupl= e of days. mal/g3kev =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0067_01C9AE23.191D9FB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Has someone left their TX on 501.3 khz. It=20= seems to=20 be there this past couple of days.
mal/g3kev
 
------=_NextPart_000_0067_01C9AE23.191D9FB0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df08.mx.aol.com (rly-df08.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.21]) by air-df01.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDF011-57149aa51a8188; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 04:13:28 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df08.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF088-57149aa51a8188; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 04:13:14 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ldhj3-0007cK-K9 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 09:12:45 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ldhj3-0007cB-8a for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 09:12:45 +0000 Received: from smtp07.online.nl ([194.134.42.52]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ldhj2-0003vJ-CI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 09:12:45 +0000 Received: from smtp07.online.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp07.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DC9998050 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 10:12:39 +0100 (CET) Received: from pa3fnytrqxpddu (s5593e077.adsl.wanadoo.nl [85.147.224.119]) by smtp07.online.nl (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 10:12:39 +0100 (CET) From: To: "blacksheep" Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 09:11:48 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Online-Scanned: by Cloudmark authority (on smtp07.online.nl) X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: xgj Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0002_01C99A4D.C02E9F50" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0002_01C99A4D.C02E9F50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, good signals from xgj,wpf,agc and yo, 73 Victor ------=_NextPart_000_0002_01C99A4D.C02E9F50 Content-Type: image/jpeg; name="xgj66.jpg" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="xgj66.jpg" /9j/4AAQSkZJRgABAgAAAQABAAD/4QDmRXhpZgAASUkqAAgAAAAFABIBAwABAAAAAQAAADEB AgAcAAAASgAAADIBAgAUAAAAZgAAABMCAwABAAAAAQAAAGmHBAABAAAAegAAAAAAAABBQ0Qg U3lzdGVtcyBEaWdpdGFsIEltYWdpbmcAMjAwOTowMzowMSAxMDoxMDowNAAFAACQBwAEAAAA MDIyMJCSAgAEAAAANjE3AAKgBAABAAAAQAIAAAOgBAABAAAAHgAAAAWgBAABAAAAvAAAAAAA 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(post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me02.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME023-99f49cc9c07382; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 05:27:38 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ln8Kg-00018N-2H for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 09:26:34 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ln8Kf-00018E-Lu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 09:26:33 +0000 Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.198.245]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ln8Kc-0003Zz-RW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 09:26:33 +0000 Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id l33so1117921rvb.4 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 02:26:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; 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Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016364574a4c32be4046616520f X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d287.2 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : fail X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --0016364574a4c32be4046616520f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hoping to call CQ on 137.68 KHz tomorrow 28th March from 08.30 to 12.30 GMT. 825 watts DC input to Decca Tx. 3=BD RF amps to Marconi T. Earth to metal water pipe 8KM long. QTH Porthpean IO 70 OH, house on cliffs with clear view of horizon 100 to 160 degrees true (roughly E to SE). Last Saturday, to my amazement, I was received by Marco near Karlsruhe. About 915 km, 400km over sea. --0016364574a4c32be4046616520f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hoping to call CQ on 137.68 KHz tomorrow 28th March from 08.30 to 12.30 GMT.= 825 watts DC input to Decca Tx. 3=BD RF amps to Marconi T. Earth to metal w= ater pipe 8KM long. QTH Porthpean IO 70 OH, house on cliffs with clear view=20= of horizon 100 to 160 degrees true (roughly E to SE). Last Saturday, to my a= mazement, I was received by Marco near Karlsruhe. About 915 km, 400km over s= ea.

--0016364574a4c32be4046616520f-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db05.mx.aol.com (rly-db05.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.80]) by air-db04.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB041-ac449c4e1ff1a; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 08:48:17 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db05.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB052-ac449c4e1ff1a; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 08:48:01 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ll0c6-0004CF-EO for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 12:47:46 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ll0c6-0004C6-3Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 12:47:46 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.4]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ll0c4-0002kW-5m for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 12:47:46 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E32E4C802B for ; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 13:47:40 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ECE44C8046 for ; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 13:47:38 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <49C4E1E9.6010907@online.fr> Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 13:47:37 +0100 From: =?windows-1252?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <49C412DA.50906@online.fr> <49C4A4D6.4080705@online.fr> <003f01c9aa1e$99d3b8a0$0900a8c0@AM> In-Reply-To: <003f01c9aa1e$99d3b8a0$0900a8c0@AM> X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: AFJ 's Grabber closed ! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Alan , Thank you 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj Alan Melia a =E9crit : > Hi Jean Pierre thanks for your reports enjoy your "holiday" > Alan G3NYK > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 (F1AFJ)" > To: > Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 8:27 AM > Subject: LF: AFJ 's Grabber closed ! > > > Hello LF , > The grabber will be closed for a few times, two reasons with that : > 1/ by carrying out my tests of TXing I =93killed=94 my preamplifier of the > K9AY , > 2/ I leave in the south for two weeks , > I will see all that on my return ! > 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj > > > > > > > > =20 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de01.mx.aol.com (rly-de01.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.137]) by air-de02.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDE023-4b349c16611229; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 17:22:45 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de01.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE018-4b349c16611229; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 17:22:26 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lk3D3-0003lW-97 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:21:57 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lk3D2-0003lN-PX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:21:56 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.4]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lk3Cy-0001Ve-Jf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:21:56 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id A78384C80DE for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 22:21:49 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9160D4C818D for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 22:21:46 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <49C165E9.3080701@online.fr> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 22:21:45 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: AFJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Lubos , Thank you for capture and report , 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj Lubos OK2BVG a =E9crit : > Hello Jean-Pierre, LF! > I just see your signal. FB! > > Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS > > _________________________________________________________________ > Pozvi sv=E9 p=F8=E1tele z Facebooku a Hotmailu do Messengeru! > https://www.invite2messenger.net/Default.aspx > =20 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg10.mx.aol.com (rly-mg10.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.116]) by air-mg01.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG014-a3849cdf84ee5; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 06:13:39 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg10.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG102-a3849cdf84ee5; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 06:13:36 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LnVXG-0004DC-ET for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 10:13:06 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LnVXG-0004D3-3L for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 10:13:06 +0000 Received: from smtp19.orange.fr ([80.12.242.18]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LnVXD-0003Bp-WD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 10:13:06 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1916.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 7C4B5200014B for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 11:12:48 +0100 (CET) Received: from JR (Mix-Nancy-110-2-207.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.248.195.207]) by mwinf1916.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id BA64720000AB for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 11:12:47 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20090328101247763.BA64720000AB@mwinf1916.orange.fr Message-ID: <200903281112290908.541FE18C@smtp.wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <200903281104270721.54188600@smtp.wanadoo.fr> References: <200903281104270721.54188600@smtp.wanadoo.fr> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (P) Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 11:12:29 +0100 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: Re: LF: 137: 'MFW' 20dB SNR, '?E5ODL' 15dB SNR Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ODL might be DL2HRE calling the OE. Wandering 50Hz spaced comb came up. 73 F5VLF *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 28/03/2009 at 11:04 John RABSON wrote: >At 1000z > >73 F5VLF From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df01.mx.aol.com (rly-df01.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.14]) by air-df03.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDF033-52a49c2f4e7b6; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 21:44:22 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df01.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF017-52a49c2f4e7b6; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 21:44:08 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LkTli-0004LQ-I6 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 01:43:30 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LkTli-0004LH-2P for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 01:43:30 +0000 Received: from blu0-omc1-s6.blu0.hotmail.com ([65.55.116.17]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LkTlf-0001cI-Hj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 01:43:30 +0000 Received: from BLU146-W9 ([65.55.116.8]) by blu0-omc1-s6.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 19 Mar 2009 18:43:21 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [201.196.58.59] From: Laurence BY3A-KL1X China To: Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 17:43:21 -0800 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <1168962903.22540.1237476815238.JavaMail.mail@webmail08> References: <1168962903.22540.1237476815238.JavaMail.mail@webmail08> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Mar 2009 01:43:21.0499 (UTC) FILETIME=[404166B0:01C9A8FD] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_5b9583e1-895e-416a-9510-09800deee3e7_" Subject: RE: LF: energy saving bulbs X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_5b9583e1-895e-416a-9510-09800deee3e7_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Forgot to reply Peter but Ive also had issues with LF interference from the=20= Phillips 22W Hi efficiency (RF) type Balun lamps. Not sure of the part numbe= rs but I bought it in China. - It got binned as I couldnt cure it with norma= l methods. =20 Laurence =20 Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 15:33:35 +0000 From: peter.cleall@virgin.net To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: energy saving bulbs A big thankyou to everyone who replied to my recent e-mails on energy saving= bulbs. I sent the message to 3 different lists and received 31 replies. The general= conclusion seems to be that the only interference to radio listening in rec= ent times have been with specific rogue bulbs, not specific brands.There was= some useful advice on handling the hazards of disposal of bulbs. Some inter= esting dialogue on whether these bulbs were as efficient and as long life as= claimed. Ideas that these bulbs were inappropriate for use where they were=20= only on for very short periods, but suggestions that recent designs were bet= ter in all aspects of operation. So I come to the conclusion that perhaps I will try some but will devise a m= eans of comparing band noise in parts of the spectrum that interst me. Then serendipity kicks in. We were on holiday this week some 600 km from hom= e. Go into a charity shop to buy something for =A31. and I am also given 2 f= ree energy saving bulbs from Scottish Hydro Electric. They also decide that=20= my wife can also have 2 bulbs. Now I have no excuse, I will have to try them= when I return. =20 regards peter _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live=99: Life without walls. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=3DTXT_TAGLM_WL_allup_1a_explore_032009= =3D --_5b9583e1-895e-416a-9510-09800deee3e7_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Forgot to reply Peter but Ive also had issues with LF interference from the=20= Phillips 22W Hi efficiency (RF) type Balun lamps. Not sure of the part=20= numbers but I bought it in China. - It got binned as I couldnt cure it=20= with normal methods.
 
Laurence
 
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 15:33:35 +0000
From: peter.cleall@virgin.net
To= : rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: energy saving bulbs

A big thankyou to everyone who replied to my recent e-mails on energy saving= bulbs.
I sent the message to 3 different lists and received 31 replies..= The general conclusion seems to be that the only interference to radio list= ening in recent times have been with specific rogue bulbs, not specific bran= ds.There was some useful advice on handling the hazards of disposal of bulbs= . Some interesting dialogue on whether these bulbs were as efficient and as=20= long life as claimed. Ideas that these bulbs were inappropriate for use wher= e they were only on for very short periods, but suggestions that recent desi= gns were better in all aspects of operation.

So I come to the conclusion that perhaps I will try some but will devise= a means of comparing band noise in parts of the spectrum that interst me. Then serendipity kicks in. We were on holiday this week some 600 km from hom= e. Go into a charity shop to buy something for =A31. and I am also given 2 f= ree energy saving bulbs from Scottish Hydro Electric. They also decide that=20= my wife can also have 2 bulbs. Now I have no excuse, I will have to try them= when I return.
 
regards
peter

Windows Live=99: Keep your life in sync. =20= Check it out. =3D --_5b9583e1-895e-416a-9510-09800deee3e7_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma03.mx.aol.com (rly-ma03.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.47]) by air-ma03.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMA032-89d49cdec5534f; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 05:22:46 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma03.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA037-89d49cdec5534f; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 05:22:30 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LnUjf-0003c4-Dm for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 09:21:51 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LnUje-0003bv-T4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 09:21:50 +0000 Received: from mail-in-05.arcor-online.net ([151.189.21.45]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LnUjc-00079W-P5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 09:21:50 +0000 Received: from mail-in-06-z2.arcor-online.net (mail-in-06-z2.arcor-online.net [151.189.8.18]) by mx.arcor.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8FB633274E for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 10:21:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail-in-11.arcor-online.net (mail-in-11.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.51]) by mail-in-06-z2.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 976255BE4C for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 10:21:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from edgar1ew1re1zt (dslb-088-072-133-168.pools.arcor-ip.net [88.72.133.168]) (Authenticated sender: dl2hre@arcor.de) by mail-in-11.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 348CFE3AFF for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 10:21:38 +0100 (CET) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.2 mail-in-11.arcor-online.net 348CFE3AFF DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=arcor.de; s=mail-in; t=1238232098; bh=zumeyiVARpLaJ3vjrsE2Y2A/ILiLqHtbwHBUBPNg20k=; h=Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=BK+nG95EBF7HrBADX5+m/mYo4qHkCH81CtV8ijyXxsXaA0MSRRWRr53kvNXwqRFHL SywuJg0KYGwPLdL3B5+Iy7DbCUi5yvQICt/ApyeC4ZbgBTAMqr8/cDRXD+07K40IPC ci3wjWQ1YoQn3IwmANTPK3okUav8ZRu1ETVy6s9w= Message-ID: From: "dl2hre" To: References: <5931f8db0903110410h410cd7c3k4fd09b74b8ae0ad5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 09:21:36 -0000 Organization: Arcor Online MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: 137KHz reports please Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01C9AF86.97EEAE10" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.4 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d261.1 ; domain : arcor.de DKIM : fail ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C9AF86.97EEAE10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable dr Harry, can you qsy 5Hz up or dwn please. i have mny qrm(line) on the present qrg. may be we can have a qso! 73 Ed DL2HRE jo51tq ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Harry Woodhouse=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 11:10 AM Subject: LF: 137KHz reports please I hope to transmit QRSS3 on 137.68 KHz on Saturday mornings March 21 & 28.= Depends on weather here in Cornwall - I live on the coast and have to erect= a temporary mast. Using Decca Tx from Isles of Scilly running 825 watts inp= ut to a Marconi T 230 feet long 30 feet up. Lazy Loop for Rx. Started on 72=20= KHz in 1998, reached well into Devon, but nobody there so no contacts! On 13= 6 have only had QSOs with G3YXM, F6BWO, G3XDV & G3WCB. I am 79 and strugglin= g! Would be delighted to make more contacts, but please be patient with me,=20= I keep doing stupid things! Regards, Harry G3MFW ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C9AF86.97EEAE10 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
dr Harry,
 
can you qsy 5Hz up or dwn please. i have mn= y=20 qrm(line) on the present qrg.
  may be we can have a qso!
 
73 Ed DL2HRE jo51tq
----- Original Message -----
Harry Woodhouse
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 11:= 10=20 AM
Subject: LF: 137KHz reports please<= /DIV>

I hope to transmit QRSS3 on 137.68 KHz on Saturday mornings= =20 March 21 & 28. Depends on weather here in Cornwall - I live on the coa= st=20 and have to erect a temporary mast. Using Decca Tx from Isles of Scilly=20 running 825 watts input to a Marconi T 230 feet long 30 feet up. Lazy Loop= for=20 Rx. Started on 72 KHz in 1998, reached well into Devon, but nobody there s= o no=20 contacts! On 136 have only had QSOs with G3YXM, F6BWO, G3XDV & G3WCB.=20= I am=20 79 and struggling! Would be delighted to make more contacts, but please be= =20 patient with me, I keep doing stupid=20 things!
          &nb= sp;            =20 Regards, Harry G3MFW
------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C9AF86.97EEAE10-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (rly-ma08.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.52]) by air-ma01.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMA012-8c549c7809d55; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 08:29:32 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA087-8c549c7809d55; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 08:29:19 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LljHG-0006nE-TH for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 12:29:14 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LljHG-0006mz-9M for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 12:29:14 +0000 Received: from qw-out-1920.google.com ([74.125.92.146]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LljHD-0005Tq-TQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 12:29:14 +0000 Received: by qw-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 5so1039775qwc.16 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 05:28:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=giMAIA5zFaKel2SJa8VZEGXe83r/KBoN6p+Ek2fL3Pc=; b=AZflzjOSxFzFWegx5a4YsiG3F6mUlmUunCVNtAzV7wv6a0py4/qcEuO4E2Ew0HQdGm iWZ0qBnhT4ST2kbbY+8IMDi38jmNFd6eQhJIChRIGJAlKmHXhmJTzpbeDaSa9Wzj1JI5 uCG3zIU9zpP77MAPUXGilRbn9qqEHFrHI8q9Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=NAf6FB6Ino5vsxj+WnQxq88QIjXE/yZEyG8wqnmMy7B6qehwqVaiJEUyyz/7mMhILY py1FKICPa48fd5CGLQzk3hpCTA3trCmbUcknjEhLqOKWns/08ekzYA+wzvzogXFp/Jck mtqrRCkyckiFMtErxFiDcqfjsTPSFnbH8RsgU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.11.137 with SMTP id t9mr8701510qat.178.1237811332842; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 05:28:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 08:28:52 -0400 Message-ID: <57a24ca70903230528v5dce2d83iebb4e0e13c91381c@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: Re: LF: XGJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m242.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Lubos, Thank you for the nice capture! --=20 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 2009/3/23 Lubos OK2BVG : > Hello Warren, LF! > XGJ signal was good this morning. > 73 > > Lubos, OK2BVG > > > ________________________________ > St=E1hn=ECte si zcela nov=FD Messenger 2009! Klikni zde! From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg09.mx.aol.com (rly-mg09.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.115]) by air-mg10.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG103-a3249c4c56f8b; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 06:46:23 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg09.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG094-a3249c4c56f8b; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 06:46:09 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lkyhx-0002DZ-Kn for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 10:45:41 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lkyhx-0002DQ-3l for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 10:45:41 +0000 Received: from smtp2b.orange.fr ([80.12.242.146]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lkyhv-0000ht-3d for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 10:45:41 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2b17.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 802D9700009A for ; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 11:45:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from JR (Mix-Nancy-110-2-245.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.248.195.245]) by mwinf2b17.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id D4D1E7000094 for ; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 11:45:18 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20090321104518871.D4D1E7000094@mwinf2b17.orange.fr Message-ID: <200903211144570189.3031141D@smtp.wanadoo.fr> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (P) Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 11:44:57 +0100 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 137 at 1035-1040z Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 DTL very strong BWO/XDV strong cq de g3mfw weak but diecipherable 73 John Rabson F5VLF 58800 Cervon France JN17vg From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db08.mx.aol.com (rly-db08.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.83]) by air-db10.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB101-ae149c6c9b130d; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 19:28:59 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db08.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB087-ae149c6c9b130d; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 19:28:50 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LlX5Y-00080A-Gk for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 23:28:20 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LlX5Y-000801-4s for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 23:28:20 +0000 Received: from imo-m12.mx.aol.com ([64.12.143.100] helo=imo-m12.mail.aol.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LlX5V-0006BT-Mj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 23:28:20 +0000 Received: from F4DTL@aol.com by imo-m12.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id l.d1b.3a2e4dd8 (41809) for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 19:28:06 -0400 (EDT) From: F4DTL@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 19:28:05 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5029 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: RE: 136kHz activity 21 March [G3MFW] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1237764485" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 -------------------------------1237764485 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 Thanx Dave,very interresting measures. =20 =20 F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP _http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/_ (http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/)=20 =20 =20 =20 Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 22/03/2009 23:08:24 Paris, Madrid, =20 ganymede444@btopenworld.com a =E9crit : LF, Congratulations to Harry G3MFW for putting a very strong signal into IO91RM= . Screenshot attached. Mike G3XDV also captured on the screenshot. Signal strengths measured on my "Tee" antenna with the SPM-30 as follows:- G3XDV -42 dBm G3MFW -61 dBm F6BWO -70 dBm F4DTL -73 dBm Noise floor -80 dBm in 24 Hz bandwidth 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor, SE England -------------------------------1237764485 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanx Dave,very interresting measures.
 
 
 
 
 
Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 22/03/2009 23:08:24 Paris, Madrid,=20 ganymede444@btopenworld.com a =E9crit :
LF,

Congratulations to Harry G3MFW for putting a very strong=20 signal into IO91RM.
Screenshot attached. Mike G3XDV also captured on th= e=20 screenshot.

Signal strengths measured on my "Tee" antenna with the=20 SPM-30 as follows:-

G3XDV -42 dBm
G3MFW -61 dBm
F6BWO =20   -70 dBm
F4DTL -73 dBm
Noise floor -80 dBm in 24 Hz=20 bandwidth


73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor, SE=20 England



 
 -------------------------------1237764485-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da05.mx.aol.com (rly-da05.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.79]) by air-da05.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDA054-a7049abaace237; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:46:11 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da05.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA058-a7049abaace237; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:45:52 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Le4hv-0008Px-OZ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 09:45:07 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Le4hv-0008Po-73 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 09:45:07 +0000 Received: from elvis.franken.de ([193.175.24.41]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Le4hu-0002Eu-HB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 09:45:07 +0000 Received: from uucp by elvis.franken.de with local-rmail (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1Le4hs-0002M4-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 10:45:04 +0100 Received: from [192.168.1.12] (uhrenpc [192.168.1.12]) by mbsks.zwiebeltuete.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EF634480BB for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 10:39:27 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <49ABA94B.9040106@mbsks.franken.de> Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 10:39:23 +0100 From: Roland Bruestle User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000a01c99a91$a54a1180$1402a8c0@e7010> <20090301205328.1s1wth6swu0w80c4@webmail4.kuleuven.be> <20090301205958.za3harvgnsowkw8w@webmail4.kuleuven.be> <49AAF55A.8070106@toya.net.pl> In-Reply-To: <49AAF55A.8070106@toya.net.pl> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WSPR on 600m Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi DI2AG was transmitting on 505.09 kHz last night. Roland DL3NDR Piotr MĹ‚ynarski schrieb: > sri > bad decode of di2ag: > 2024 -14 2.6 0.505179 2 1C5HNX NI57 10 > 2034 -25 0.6 0.505094 0 DI2AG JN59 30 > unfortunately , wsprnet(database) accepted it and i have automatic > upload on. > > 73,peter,sq7mpj > p.s #1 > it would be a nice record - almost 9000 km on 500 kHz ( 1W erp) > with "1/2" of w3dzz on a rx side..... > post scriptum # 2 > doeas anyone have an idea how to remove bad record from wspr database ? > (record as a line not record as a record ..hi) > qth: lodz, poland /jo91rs/ > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma09.mx.aol.com (rly-ma09.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.53]) by air-ma08.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMA083-8cc49b121363d2; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 08:12:40 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma09.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA096-8cc49b121363d2; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 08:12:24 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LfZqD-0003UD-N9 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 13:11:53 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LfZqD-0003U4-0j for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 13:11:53 +0000 Received: from mail-bw0-f164.google.com ([209.85.218.164]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LfZqA-0001wV-PL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 13:11:52 +0000 Received: by bwz8 with SMTP id 8so413004bwz.4 for ; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 05:11:41 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=uTZhvS8WRuKaXVtsAw+UnXKJKovRpPtMH2G9lyKJiYo=; b=wa/QFxM1BI3l0CEe8d/ZwrDrcaUS3S4OJyKISgj+K8RHBNVE/hys9oxKo2MCw2MGPA /S/wTpkztiAg+i/F6Cxug55q1b3MfrvZNJBCwjgc+WxKI4fMZd0L8IOOgmFp5n66zmqU Wz/6eVLfkGvI4g0VTwsH16NkEG5ueEjEw/ZKA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=GL7oF/tvW39mAdtqZZoTFClvGbs39ld0bA/ZthfFCZlmZlPzeyOyxJCONe8Zhsf0lQ lOAlJEMUG9BFShX7EOTkfxbmfLeeUjO1Yt46u8E5VoPElFFcXN1xbe/q/1aUnWms0ONm zp7qXWjTTwz7/wP2QO85rT/CE48odekUInOIM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.122.15 with SMTP id j15mr2035615far.10.1236345100417; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 05:11:40 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <0566EF6DE20B4249A3E74859BF9BA2C6@AGB> References: <0566EF6DE20B4249A3E74859BF9BA2C6@AGB> Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 13:11:40 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Multi-function beacon Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5a72387bb9304647306d9 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d302.1 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --001636c5a72387bb9304647306d9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There is no auto reporting feature in that S/W. It generates a log file containing S/N of each beacon / time slot, which the user then has to personally send to the 5MHz working group. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/3/6 Graham > Andy, > > Quick Q .. is the reception software capable of auto reporting to the 5 > meg group ? > > I have an idea it has this facility .or at least produces a -5 meg- report > file . if so can it be turned off ? > > > G .. > > *From:* Andy Talbot > *Sent:* Friday, March 06, 2009 11:03 AM > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > *Cc:* jfell@tesco.net > *Subject:* LF: Multi-function beacon > > I've now started transmitting a timed beacon signal on 503.7kHz that > is identical in format to that of GB3SSS operated over the winter months of > the last two years from Poldhu on 1.9 and 3.5MHz, and has a similar signal > structure to the 5MHz beacons, GB3RAL, WES and ORK. These all have an > initial CW ident and stepped power levels for aural reception, and a > precisely defined period of full-power plain carrier for S/N measurements. > See http://www.rsgb-spectrumforum.org.uk/5mhz%20beacons.htm for the > complete 5MHz signal structure. For this MF transmission, as on GB3SSS, > the pulsed sounder sequence of the 5MHz beacons is replaced with a PSK31 > message which lasts from 30s to approx 48 seconds after the start > > Auto Monitoring software writen by G3PLX is available for monitoring > these beacons, it measures signal to noise during the carrier period and > saves to file as well as plotting the last 40 hours worth of measurements. > The software can be downloaded from > http://www.rsgb.org/spectrumforum/hf/beaconauto.php . PSK31 data can be > copied with Digipan, Fldigi, PSK31SBW or a host of other packages. > > *TIMING * > The 503.7kHz transmission takes place every 15 minutes at 4 minutes past > the quarter hour. > ie each transmission starts at *xx:04, xx:19, xx:34 and xx:49 * This > time slot has been selected so that the transmission do not interfere with > my continuous ongoing reception of the 5Mhz beacons - the active antenna > used for these is overloaded by the 500kHz signal and I have already lost > data when the WSPR beacon transmission coincided with one of the monitoring > windows. > > NOTE If using the G3PLX software, this only monitors for the three 5MHz > beacons at 00, 01 and 02 minutes. > *SO IT WILL BE NECESSARY TO FRIG THE SOFTWARE * to monitor > this transmission at the 04 minute point. The necessary alteration can be > done by firstly setting your PC clock accurately to the correct time, then > setting the Track Time box to -240 (minus 240 seconds). This will make the > software look for this transmission during the time window it thinks it > would be receiving GB3RAL, and log the MF transmission during the first > minute, on the red trace, as if it were GB3RAL > > The beacon uses the identical hardware to the WSPR transmissions of the > last few weeks, with the the only change being a reprogramming of the > controller PIC. In fact the very same hardware was previously loaned to > the Poldhu club for their beacons, with the only difference being a change > to the final Low Pass filter on the output of the broadband PA. > > Andy G4JNT > www.g4jnt.com > > ------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.8/1985 - Release Date: 03/05/09 > 07:54:00 > > --001636c5a72387bb9304647306d9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
There is no auto reporting feature in that S/W.=A0=A0=A0 It generates a= log file containing S/N of each beacon / time slot, which the user then has= to personally send to the 5MHz working group.

Andy =A0G4JNT
www= .g4jnt.com


2009/3/6 Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
Andy,
=A0
Quick Q .. is the=A0 reception software= capable of auto reporting to the=A0 5 meg group=A0?
=A0
I have an idea it has this=A0 facility=20= .or at least produces a -5 meg-=A0report file . if so can it be turned off ?=
=A0
=A0
G ..

Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 11:03 AM
Subject: LF: Multi-function beacon

I've now=A0started transmitting a timed=A0 beacon signal on 503.7kH= z that is=A0identical in format to that of GB3SSS operated over the winter m= onths of the last two years=A0=A0from Poldhu on 1.9 and 3.5MHz, =A0and has= =A0a similar signal structure to the 5MHz beacons, GB3RAL, WES and ORK.=A0 T= hese all have=A0an initial CW ident and=A0stepped power levels for aural rec= eption,=A0and a precisely defined period of full-power plain carrier for S/N= measurements.=A0=A0
See=A0 =A0http://www.rsgb-spectrumforum.org.uk/5mhz%20beacons= .htm=A0 for the complete 5MHz =A0signal structure.=A0=A0For this MF tran= smission, as on GB3SSS, the pulsed sounder sequence of the 5MHz beacons is r= eplaced with a PSK31 message which lasts from=A030s to approx 48 seconds aft= er the start
=A0
Auto Monitoring software writen by G3PLX is available for monitoring th= ese beacons, it measures signal to noise during the carrier period and saves= to file as well as plotting the last 40 hours worth of measurements.
The software can be downloaded from=A0 http://www.rsgb.org/spectr= umforum/hf/beaconauto.php=A0.=A0=A0 PSK31 data can be copied with Digipa= n, Fldigi, PSK31SBW or a host of other packages.
=A0
TIMING
The 503.7kHz transmission takes place every 15 minutes at 4 minutes pas= t the quarter hour.=A0
ie=A0each transmission starts at xx:04, xx:19, xx:34 and xx:49= =A0=A0=A0=A0This time slot has been selected so that the transmissi= on do not interfere with my continuous ongoing reception of the 5Mhz beacons= - the active antenna used for these is overloaded by the 500kHz signal and=20= I have already lost data when the WSPR beacon transmission coincided with on= e of the monitoring windows.
=A0
NOTE=A0=A0 If using the=A0G3PLX software, this only=A0monitors for the=20= three 5MHz beacons at =A000, 01 and 02 minutes.
SO IT WILL BE NECESSARY=A0TO FRIG=A0THE SOFTWARE =A0to= monitor this=A0transmission at the 04 minute point.=A0=A0=A0The necessary a= lteration can be done by firstly setting=A0your PC clock accurately to the c= orrect time, then setting the Track Time box to -240 (minus 240 seconds)..= =A0 This will make the software look for this transmission during the time= =A0window it thinks it would be receiving GB3RAL, and log the=A0MF transmiss= ion during the first minute, on the red trace, as if it were GB3RAL=A0
=A0
The beacon uses the identical hardware to the=A0WSPR transmissions of= =A0the last few weeks, with the the only change being a=A0reprogramming of t= he controller PIC.=A0=A0 In fact the very same hardware was previously loane= d to the Poldhu club for their beacons, with the only difference being a cha= nge to the final Low Pass filter on the output of the broadband PA.
=A0
Andy =A0G4JNT
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--001636c5a72387bb9304647306d9-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md04.mx.aol.com (rly-md04.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.142]) by air-md07.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMD072-90049b49ca3f7; Mon, 09 Mar 2009 00:35:59 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md04.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD048-90049b49ca3f7; Mon, 09 Mar 2009 00:35:49 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LgXCd-0007tG-MP for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Mar 2009 04:34:59 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LgXCd-0007t7-Ah for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Mar 2009 04:34:59 +0000 Received: from mail-qy0-f103.google.com ([209.85.221.103]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LgXCb-0005s7-Hm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Mar 2009 04:34:59 +0000 Received: by qyk1 with SMTP id 1so1011128qyk.30 for ; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 21:34:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=bgp/CinACx2xSn7IseFQmU3QIcRUEtY7GuQzSo7EGTE=; b=qT7OzVRhXdRet7l7hu/+SBOcpvBP8GgoUMuxK/2Sp4UkNF3pLXMCSlmuOykaItgWGb y7Oi6TOoFDDlygZQu9jHLjNx8QdwAppIWZbhTIqLwAT6+4FyGDgFVRSS0FZc6A0YY64z DwVWNvXwcm9FtvVRLBv8TdlduMN5XjfDwSHG8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Ooc0fjLDi3k76QXlrKz2BECaeDCWj6lp/z9xEgCEN9/DAXqIYbvV+xFHkbR86j+S7W H6J0Cv9lZ5rYOapLxGTJaBST7mfQo0s0O1inCH/M5O3AM99OI9R7l43sDlo9lJrmWmPf +pEstwZVPYIwoJ5KKCcaXK7GqFkOS45AYZHQI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.28.78 with SMTP id l14mr6495165qac.307.1236573290141; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 21:34:50 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <552E4D8090C443129A866221CE713901@ns94d01ae4d850> References: <552E4D8090C443129A866221CE713901@ns94d01ae4d850> Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 00:34:50 -0400 Message-ID: <57a24ca70903082134sacce7fex45bb53d916fd42b0@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: XGJ 08-03.jpg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m229.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Henny, Lubos, Thank you for the captures! 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ On 3/8/09, henny van elst wrote: > Hi Warren,lf > capture XGJ > Henny pa3cpm > 73s > Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden > verzonden: > XGJ 08-03.jpg > > Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen > het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. > Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe > bijlagen worden afgehandeld. > -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da05.mx.aol.com (rly-da05.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.79]) by air-da05.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDA054-a6a49ab09af2a5; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 17:18:27 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da05.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA052-a6a49ab09af2a5; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 17:18:25 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ldtz9-0001oH-Eb for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 22:18:11 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ldtz9-0001o8-2c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 22:18:11 +0000 Received: from mta21.charter.net ([216.33.127.81]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ldtz3-0005yh-IL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 22:18:10 +0000 Received: from imp09 ([10.20.200.9]) by mta21.charter.net (InterMail vM.7.09.01.00 201-2219-108-20080618) with ESMTP id <20090301221749.YWRE7559.mta21.charter.net@imp09>; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 17:17:49 -0500 Received: from [192.168.0.2] ([68.116.200.100]) by imp09 with charter.net id MyHp1b00D2AU2w405yHpx5; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 17:17:49 -0500 Message-ID: <49AB098D.1020505@charter.net> Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 17:17:49 -0500 From: John Andrews User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, 600MRG References: <49AAF908.7040906@charter.net> <20090301223044.8i4kbe2osr5wco8o@webmail4.kuleuven.be> <49AB04A1.2030308@charter.net> <017801c99ab9$f8e9a9e0$6401a8c0@asus> In-Reply-To: <017801c99ab9$f8e9a9e0$6401a8c0@asus> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WE2XGR/3 WSPR tonight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Gary, Rik, Darn. Now I remember why we settled on 508.500! I'll take Rik's "new" advice and move up by 50 Hz, and put the carrier on 508.050. Keep your dials on 506.500. John Andrews, WE2XGR/3 Gary - G4WGT wrote: > Hi John, > > Don't forget we see an NDB "Z" carrier on 508.000 KHz, plus or minus from > that would be preferred for WSPR signal. > > 73 > > Gary - G4WGT. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma07.mx.aol.com (rly-ma07.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.51]) by air-ma08.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMA084-8bb49c9870e197; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 21:21:28 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma07.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA075-8bb49c9870e197; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 21:21:21 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LmHnQ-0004Vo-J7 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 01:20:44 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LmHnQ-0004Vf-0f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 01:20:44 +0000 Received: from vms173017pub.verizon.net ([206.46.173.17]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LmHnM-0001Dl-Gz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 01:20:43 +0000 Received: from DR2 ([71.184.212.10]) by vms173017.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KH100EVLFQ1CZHI@vms173017.mailsrvcs.net> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 20:20:26 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <4C20F995A547459D94F4739B09D1441F@DR2> From: "dave.riley3" To: Cc: "600MRG" References: <864ED1778706409D9A640FF89C5F22C7@Silver> <35BC7A5BC84143BB916FEAA9FA0B67CF@AGB> <6F3FEF77C5114A42BB288377EFF89835@2a2d7ed321c6425> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 21:20:25 -0400 MIME-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: LF: Re: AW: WSPR G0NBD 502.4 DIAL NOW TILL LATER POSS OVER NIGHT Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0017_01C9ACC6.590DABA0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.1 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_70_80, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE,LINES_OF_YELLING,UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C9ACC6.590DABA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable QSL G0NBD 090325 0050 9 -21 1.5 0.503938 G0NBD IO83 13 Hello Graham, You still had 10 DBs to spare for a decode!!! Try 2 milliwatts... Looks like 155,700 miles per watt... Good on ya... PSE QSL VIA E-MAIL... ( hi hi ) Dave @ WD2XSH/17 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Beckmann, Gerhard=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 7:47 PM Subject: LF: AW: WSPR G0NBD 502.4 DIAL NOW TILL LATER POSS OVER NIGHT =20 Hello Graham, =20 nice signal here in JN59LN =20 2338 -17 1.8 0.503980 -1 G0NBD IO83 13 =20 Vy 73 de Gerhard / DK6NI =20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =20 =20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacks= heep.org] Im Auftrag von Graham Gesendet: Dienstag, 24. M=E4rz 2009 23:35 An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Betreff: LF: WSPR G0NBD 502.4 DIAL NOW TILL LATER POSS OVER NIGHT=20 =20 Making hay while the sun (doesn't shine)=20 =20 G0NBD 502.4 DIAL NOW TILL LATER POSS OVER NIGHT=20 =20 Tnx- G .. =20 =20 =20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C9ACC6.590DABA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
QSL G0NBD
 
 
090325 0050   9 -21  1.5 &nb= sp;=20 0.503938  G0NBD IO83 13
 
 
Hello Graham,
 
You still had 10 DBs to spare for a decode!!! Tr= y 2=20 milliwatts...
 
Looks like 155,700 miles per=20 watt...
 
Good on ya... PSE QSL VIA E-MAIL... ( hi hi=20 )
 
 
Dave @ WD2XSH/17
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Beckmann, Gerhard
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 7:47=20 PM
Subject: LF: AW: WSPR G0NBD 502.4 D= IAL=20 NOW TILL LATER POSS OVER NIGHT

 

Hello=20 Graham,

 

nice= signal here in=20 JN59LN

 

2338=  -17=20  1.8   0.503980 -1 G0NBD IO83 13

 

Vy 7= 3 de=20 Gerhard  /  DK6NI

 

=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

 

=  <= /FONT>

Von: owner-= rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= ] Im Auftrag von <= /SPAN>Graham
Gesendet: Dienstag, 24. M=E4rz 2009=20 23:35
An: rsgb_= lf_group@blacksheep.org
Betreff: LF: WSPR G0NBD 502.4 DIAL NOW=20 TILL LATER POSS OVER NIGHT

 

Making =20 hay while the  sun (doesn't shine)=20

 

G0NBD=20 502.4 DIAL NOW TILL LATER POSS OVER NIGHT=20

 

Tnx-=20 G ..

 

 

 

 =

------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C9ACC6.590DABA0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md06.mx.aol.com (rly-md06.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.144]) by air-md07.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMD071-90c49b26c5620e; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 07:45:27 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md06.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD064-90c49b26c5620e; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 07:45:12 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lfvte-00045s-VI for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 12:44:54 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lfvte-00045j-Ew for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 12:44:54 +0000 Received: from cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.43]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lfvtd-00047A-Ba for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 12:44:54 +0000 Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (smtpshost02.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.75]) by cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DC687B8043 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 13:44:46 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B753F3863 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 13:44:46 +0100 (CET) Received: from webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.242.4]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 030E6F3862 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 13:44:46 +0100 (CET) Received: by webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 9979C57A2; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 13:44:46 +0100 (CET) Received: from 212.94-200-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (212.94-200-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [80.200.94.212]) by webmail4.kuleuven.be (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 13:44:46 +0100 Message-ID: <20090307134446.ii8sntwivt1c4co4@webmail4.kuleuven.be> Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2009 13:44:46 +0100 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <1DF611251F48450DB34200591E4F2D0D@radiorummet> <20090307122246.s1brm6bta0yswk0s@webmail4.kuleuven.be> In-Reply-To: <20090307122246.s1brm6bta0yswk0s@webmail4.kuleuven.be> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 80.200.94.212 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: DI2AG daytime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=LINES_OF_YELLING autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Now good copies: 1124 -27 1.3 0.505092 0 DI2AG JN59 23 1146 -26 1.3 0.505092 0 DI2AG JN59 23 1152 -28 1.1 0.505092 0 DI2AG JN59 23 1158 -26 1.3 0.505092 0 DI2AG JN59 23 1214 -28 1.2 0.505092 0 DI2AG JN59 23 1222 -26 1.3 0.505092 0 DI2AG JN59 23 1230 -26 1.2 0.505092 0 DI2AG JN59 23 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T Quoting Rik Strobbe : > Weak daytime copy of DI2AG in JO20ix (481km). > Traces can be seen but no decoding (yet), see attached (RX frequency = > 503.6 so traces at 90 are from DI2AG) > > 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > > > > > > Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de12.mx.aol.com (rly-de12.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.148]) by air-de04.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDE044-51e49b43a17202; 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Its working ! Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5b680148a430464a24912 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d237.1 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --001636c5b680148a430464a24912 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Its exactly the same RF hardware as the WSPR beacon was - the only difference is in the PIC code. Details are : 100W RF Out (peak / carrier) 7m high Tee antenna with 14m top span. Gain estimate -27dB - based on Rrad / Rload measurements ERP 23dBm. There may be some small /low-res photos of the antenna in the 73kHz archives somewhere - but I don't have good quality electronic copies. They were taken on film a few years before before digital photography became all-pervasive. For info, the controller consists of an AD9852 DDS clocked from a 13MHz TCXO (*4 internally for a 52MHz DDS clock) controlled from a 16F628 PIC. A Motorola Oncore GPS receiver supplies timing information as serial data and a 1PPS UTC reference pulse. An early version of the PIC driver code can be found at http://www.g4jnt.com/NEWHFBCN.ASM The latest version has a few improvements, such as raised cosine shaping on the CW pulse rather than the linear ramp in the code shown Power Amp. is a Kalmus broadband module, flat over 0.5 to 40MHz, rated at 200W max - so at 100W is substantially backed-off for good linearity. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/3/8 Graham > Andy, > > Looks like I have a signal 6/10 db over the noise during the day from > 1200 slow rise from 1500 peak at 1800 , dip at 1700 and + 23 dB at 201= 5 > .. seems to be a 1 hour qsb cycle as well > > I think Gary is set up also for 24 monitor period ... Im seeing signal > levels recorded that are not showing on spec lab .. > > Q, do you have some details of the beacon, power , erp, or web links I > can add to the info page ? > > Tnx- G .. > > > *From:* Andy Talbot > *Sent:* Sunday, March 08, 2009 6:26 PM > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > *Subject:* Re: LF: AW: 503.7 Multi-function beacon ... Its working ! > > It is no trouble to continue the transmission. I have set up the equipmen= t > in the garage where it does not get in the way of other shack activites, a= nd > won't do too much damage if the euipment blows up! So I can leave it > running for a few weeks unless the antenna is needed for other purposes.. > > Andy G4JNT > www.g4jnt.com > > > 2009/3/8 Beckmann, Gerhard > >> Hi Graham, >> >> >> >> Thank you for your statement! >> >> Well actually, especially Scattergram or equal measurement methods would >> be of interest regarding the aspect of signal path monitoring. (direct wa= ve >> / sky wave via cross correlation of pulse delay values). >> >> However, the aspect of interferences by using 500us pulses has to be take= n >> into consideration but may be there are coming up suitable solution by th= e >> LF-group. >> >> Another method of monitoring the signal path on 500 kHz could possibly >> performed by using the =93PSK Sounder=94 software from ZL2AFP. And what I= saw on >> a first glance it should be usable for transmission and reception in orde= r >> to monitor the signal path situation. >> >> >> >> By the way: >> >> Do you know if Andy is continuing the Multi-function beaconing on 503.7 >> kHz? >> >> In this case I would try long term signal monitoring by GB3RAL.exe and PS= K >> message decoding within the next evening sessions. >> >> >> >> vy 73 de Gerhard / DK6NI >> >> >> >> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> *Von:* owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto: >> owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] *Im Auftrag von *Graham >> *Gesendet:* Sonntag, 8. M=E4rz 2009 15:36 >> *An:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> *Betreff:* Re: LF: AW: 503.7 Multi-function beacon ... Its working ! >> >> >> >> Hi, Grerhard, >> >> >> >> Andy's post about the new beacon came out of the blue, (as is the signa= l >> hihi), Working on this, I've simply added a page to the uk500khz news >> group and posted links about to generate some interest and make sure the >> beacon details are known to hams and swl's out side this reflector .. >> >> >> >> The only thing that occurs to me is that there is a possibility for >> reception reports to be directed to the 5 meg group , I note that the >> graph generator by G4IRX requests your call and locator before processi= ng >> the file and presenting you with a plot. so I will see if anything can be >> done to prevent this , the data format is of course distorted by having >> only one active beacon.. so it will show up .. but may as yet be unexpect= ed >> ...! >> >> >> >> I note from previous email that the pulse aspect of the beacon is >> required for precise measurements, I think that may be possible to set up= a >> 'experiment' but the aspect of interference to other users may be >> significant, Andy has referred to the concept of 'phase reversal' in a >> continues carrier system (or medium pulse ?) that would perhaps be a >> acceptable mode of modulation, weather it could be transmitted by a 'norm= al' >> transmitter im note sure , but its worth noting that activities on 500, t= o >> date are not 'funded' as such and time and capital out lay are part of t= he >> 'hobby' and such hardware requirements and software re-writes are beyond >> many of the active stations. but perhaps as interest spreads .. things ma= y >> change ..? >> >> >> >> Tnx- >> >> >> >> Graham >> >> >> >> G0NBD >> >> IO83LK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* Beckmann, Gerhard >> >> *Sent:* Sunday, March 08, 2009 11:06 AM >> >> *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> >> *Cc:* 'Robert Hemesley' >> >> *Subject:* LF: AW: 503.7 Multi-function beacon ... Its working ! >> >> >> >> Hello Graham, Hello Andy, >> >> >> >> reading about your activities concerning Multi-function beacon I tried >> yesterday evening to catch your signals, but unfortunately with no result= s >> copying your sig. May be condx were not good enough. Moreover I had some >> bad manmade QRM from TV and PC. >> >> >> >> As Rob Hemesley told you I am active in 5-MHz-beaco- monitoring >> specially concerning scattergram monitoring in order to analyse signal p= ath >> situation (direct wave / sky wave behaviour). >> >> But I am running both analysis software, GB3RAL.exe and >> Scattergram.exe and it would not be any problem to modify the internal >> PC-clock specially regarding GB3RAL.exe in order to analyse the long term >> signal level of your Multi-function beacon. So I will try to continue >> monitoring your Multi-function beacon hopefully that condx will be better= in >> the next evening sessions (hi). >> >> If there will be Scattergram acties in future I certainly need some >> more dB signal level, but it would be very interesting to investigate the >> signal path situation. >> >> Of course, this is more interesting for those participants who are >> located in a distance range between 150 and 300 km in order to monitor th= e >> slide crossover from direct wave to sky wave signal path. >> >> However, thank you very much for implementation of your very >> interesting Multi-function beacon project and I will keep on running my >> monitoring activities and will inform you in any case about further resul= ts. >> >> >> >> vy 73 and a lot of success by running Multi-function beacons, I will be >> =93on the qui vive=94 !!! >> >> >> >> de Gerhard / DK6NI (JN59LN) >> >> >> >> By the way: >> >> Dial frequency 505.2 kHz, is that o.k.? (because GB3RAL.exe is decoding >> with 1500 Hz too). >> >> For BPSK31-decoding I am using DigiPan Vers.2.0 >> >> >> >> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> *Von:* owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto: >> owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] *Im Auftrag von *Graham >> *Gesendet:* Samstag, 7. M=E4rz 2009 23:46 >> *An:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> *Betreff:* LF: 503.7 Multi-function beacon ... Its working ! >> >> >> >> So far so good .. quite a step up in signal round 2100 hrs >> >> no frequency decode before then , 15 db over noise at 2130 >> >> >> >> but a trend showing >> >> about 1 hour slow qsb >> >> >> >> any other reports ? >> >> >> >> G .. >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.9/1988 - Release Date: 03/06/09 >> 19:17:00 >> > > ------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.9/1989 - Release Date: 03/07/09 > 18:43:00 > > --001636c5b680148a430464a24912 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Its exactly the same RF hardware as=A0the WSPR beacon was - the only di= fference is in the PIC code.=A0
=A0
Details are :
=A0 100W RF Out (peak / carrier)
=A0 7m high Tee antenna with 14m top span.
=A0 Gain estimate -27dB - based on Rrad / Rload measurements
=A0 ERP 23dBm.
=A0
There may be some small /low-res photos of the antenna in the 73kHz arc= hives somewhere - but I don't have good quality electronic copies.=A0 Th= ey were taken on film=A0a few years before before digital photography became= all-pervasive.
=A0
For info, the controller consists of an=A0AD9852 DDS clocked from a 13M= Hz TCXO (*4 internally for=A0a 52MHz DDS clock) controlled from a 16F628 PIC= .=A0 A Motorola Oncore GPS receiver supplies timing information as serial da= ta=A0and a 1PPS UTC reference pulse.
=A0
An early version of the PIC driver code can be found at http://www.g4jnt.com/NEWHFBCN.ASM=A0 The=20= latest version=A0has a few improvements, such as=A0raised cosine shaping on=20= the CW pulse rather than the linear ramp in the code shown
=A0
Power Amp. is a Kalmus broadband=A0module, =A0flat over =A00.5 to 40MHz= , rated at 200W max - so at 100W is substantially backed-off for good linear= ity.

Andy =A0G4JNT
www= .g4jnt.com


2009/3/8 Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
Andy,
=A0
Looks like I have a signal 6/10 db over= the=A0 noise during the=A0 day from 1200=A0 slow rise from 1500 =A0peak at=20= 1800 , dip at 1700=A0 and=A0 + 23 dB at 2015 .. seems to=A0 be a 1 hour qsb=20= cycle as well
=A0
I think Gary is set up=A0 also for=A0 2= 4 monitor period ... Im seeing signal levels recorded that are not=A0 showin= g on spec lab ..
=A0
Q, do you=A0 have some details of the= =A0 beacon,=A0 power , erp,=A0or=A0 web links I can add to=A0 the info page=20= ?
=A0
Tnx- G .. =A0
=A0

Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 6:26 PM
Subject: Re: LF: AW: 503.7 Multi-function beacon ... Its working= !

It is no trouble to continue the transmission.=A0 I have set up the equ= ipment in the garage where it does not get in the way of other shack activit= es, and won't do too much damage if the euipment blows up!=A0 So I can l= eave it running for a few weeks unless the antenna is needed for other purpo= ses..

Andy =A0G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com


2009/3/8 Beckmann, Gerhard <= beckmann.er= langen@freenet.de>

Hi G= raham,

=A0

Thank you for your statement!

Well actually, especially Scattergram or equal measurement method= s would be of interest regarding the aspect of signal path monitoring. (dire= ct wave / sky wave via cross correlation of pulse delay values).

However, the aspect of interferences by using 500us pulses has to= be taken into consideration but may be there are coming up suitable solutio= n by the LF-group.

Another method of monitoring the signal path on 500 kHz could pos= sibly performed by using the =93PSK Sounder=94 software from ZL2AFP. And wha= t I saw on a first glance it should be usable for transmission and reception= in order to monitor the signal path situation.

=A0

By the way:

Do you know if Andy is continuing the Multi-function beaconing on= 503.7 kHz?

In this case I would try long term signal monitoring by GB3RAL..e= xe and PSK message decoding within the next evening sessions.<= /p>

=A0

vy 73 de Gerhard / DK6NI

=A0

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

=A0

=A0

=A0

Von: owner-rsgb_= lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] <= span style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Im Auftrag von Graham
Gesendet: Sonntag, 8. M=E4rz= 2009 15:36=20

Betreff: Re= : LF: AW: 503.7 Multi-function beacon ... Its working !=20

=A0

Hi, Grerhard,

=A0

Andy's post about the=A0 new beacon came out of the=A0 blue,=20= (as is the signal hihi), Working on this, =A0I've simply added a page to= the=A0 uk500khz news group and posted links about to=A0 generate some inter= est and make sure=A0the beacon=A0details are known to hams and swl's out= side this reflector ..

=A0

The only thing that occurs to=A0 me is that there is a possibilit= y for reception reports to be=A0 directed to the 5 meg group , I note that t= he=A0 graph generator by G4IRX=A0 requests your call and locator=A0 before p= rocessing the file and presenting you with a plot. so I will see if anything= can be done to=A0 prevent this , the data format is of course distorted by=20= having only one active beacon.. so it will show up .. but may as yet be unex= pected ...!

=A0

I note from previous email that the pulse aspect of the=A0 beacon= is required for precise measurements, I think that may be possible to set u= p a 'experiment' =A0but the aspect of interference to=A0 other users= may be significant, Andy has referred to the concept of 'phase reversal= ' in a continues carrier system (or medium pulse ?) that would perhaps b= e a acceptable mode of modulation, weather it could be transmitted by a '= ;normal' transmitter im note sure , but its worth noting that activities= on 500, to date =A0are not 'funded' as such and time and capital ou= t lay are part of the 'hobby' and such hardware requirements =A0and=20= software re-writes are beyond many of the active stations. but perhaps as in= terest spreads .. things may change ..?

=A0

Tnx-

=A0

Graham

=A0

G0NBD

IO83LK

=A0

=A0

=A0

=A0

=A0

=A0

=A0

=A0

Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 11:06 AM

Subject:= LF: AW: 503.7 Multi-function beacon ... Its wor= king !

=A0

Hello Graham, Hello Andy,

=A0

reading about your activities concerning Multi-fun= ction beacon I tried yesterday evening to catch your signals, but unfortunat= ely with no results copying your sig. May be condx were not good enough.=A0=20= Moreover I had some bad manmade QRM from TV and PC.

=A0

=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 As Rob Hemesley told you I am acti= ve in 5-MHz-beaco- monitoring specially concerning=A0 scattergram monitoring= in order to analyse signal path situation (direct wave / sky wave behaviour= ).

=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 But I am running both analysis sof= tware, GB3RAL.exe and Scattergram.exe and it would not be any problem to mod= ify the internal PC-clock specially regarding GB3RAL.exe in order to analyse= the long term signal level of your Multi-function beacon. So I will try to=20= continue monitoring your Multi-function beacon hopefully that condx will be=20= better in the next evening sessions (hi).

=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 If there will be Scattergram actie= s in future I certainly need some more dB signal level, but it would be very= interesting to investigate the signal path situation.

=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Of course, this is more interestin= g for those participants who are located in a distance range between 150 and= 300 km in order to monitor the slide crossover from direct wave to sky wave= signal path.

=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0=A0However, thank you very much fo= r implementation of your very interesting Multi-function beacon project and=20= I will keep on running my monitoring activities and will inform you in any c= ase about further results.

=A0

vy 73 and a lot of success by running Multi-functi= on beacons, I will be =93on the qui vive=94 !!!

=A0

de Gerhard=A0 /=A0 DK6NI=A0 (JN59LN)=

=A0

By the way:

Dial frequency 505.2 kHz, is that o.k.? (because G= B3RAL.exe is decoding with 1500 Hz too).

For BPSK31-decoding I am using DigiPan Vers.2.0

=A0

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

=A0

=A0

=A0

Von: owner-rsgb_= lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] <= span style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Im Auftrag von Graham
Gesendet: Samstag, 7. M=E4rz= 2009 23:46
An: rsgb_lf_group@bla= cksheep.org
Betreff: LF: 503.7 Multi-fun= ction beacon ... Its working !

=A0

So far so good .. quite a step up in signal round 2100 hrs=A0

no frequency decode before then , 15 db over noise at 2130=

=A0

but a trend showing

about=A0 1 hour slow qsb

=A0

any other reports ?

=A0

G ..

=A0


No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 8.0.= .237 / Virus Database: 270.11.9/1988 - Release Date: 03/06/09 19:17:00



No virus found in this incoming message.
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--001636c5b680148a430464a24912-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg03.mx.aol.com (rly-dg03.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.87]) by air-dg07.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDG073-5b749b0187217a; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 13:22:53 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg03.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG038-5b749b0187217a; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 13:22:45 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LfID8-0007fU-Br for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 18:22:22 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LfID7-0007fL-LF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 18:22:21 +0000 Received: from vms173003pub.verizon.net ([206.46.173.3]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LfID6-00035D-92 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 18:22:21 +0000 Received: from DR2 ([71.184.212.10]) by vms173003.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KG100F2JPOUJJZF@vms173003.mailsrvcs.net> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 12:22:06 -0600 (CST) Message-id: From: "dave.riley3" To: Cc: "600MRG" References: <000a01c99a91$a54a1180$1402a8c0@e7010> <7.0.1.0.1.20090305091934.0181aca8@magma.ca> Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 13:22:05 -0500 MIME-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Deep copy... Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000F_01C99D95.60BBD420" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.1 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C99D95.60BBD420 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks to ALL who responded with quick and cogent findings... It has seemed for a time that with the receiver AGC and NBs OFF that I gener= ally can see a deeper signal, depending on conditions... The final audio filter assures that the program does not have to deal with n= oise outside of the passband of interest... TNX Here is today's gnawing question... What is the expected ambient noise say=20= @ 600M one should expect?? Rural, City, Country, remote battery operated, etc. combinations... Especial= ly well away from AC neutral wires... Today I ran the input to the SDR-IQ into a 50 ohm load and set a long integr= ate ( 64+ ) and saw approx -134 dbm of baseband noise with NO signals... I then connected to the outside antenna with no external pre-amp or any non=20= linear device and saw -117 dbm of noise across 10 khz. with a few weak and f= loating predictable BB noises.. At night it is sure to be up to near -100 dbm depending on conditions and no= ises present... What do YOU get for a noise difference between a terminated antenna input an= d your regular receive antenna?? I'm about to place several e-probes about this place in order to mix and mat= ch phase and amplitudes in order to see what net gain can be made to the SNR= with the hope that the most offending noises will not be in the path of a d= esired signal... TNX and ain't this fun??? Dave @ WD2XSH/17 =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Bill de Carle=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 9:58 AM Subject: Re: LF: Deep copy... At 09:25 PM 3/4/2009, you wrote: I seem to get best results while trying to pull signals out of the noise= when the AGC of the receiver is OFF as well as the Noise Blanker and Noise=20= reduction features being OFF... =20 Do you concur?? =20 Also setting a good audio filter to the passband of interest seems to by= pass some heavy static hits as well... I've noticed that when doing HF frequency measurement tests (working to th= e nearest milliHertz) - turning off the AGC under high static conditions see= ms to improve the accuracy of the measurement, at least with the software I=20= use. One plausible explanation is that AGC action necessarily introduces am= plitude modulation (on all signals in the passband). When I process the AGC= 'd signal with what amounts to a very narrow DSP filter the added amplitude=20= modulation shows up as apparent sidebands close-in on the signal I'm trying=20= to measure. If the power in those sidebands is comparable to that of the si= gnal whose frequency I'm looking for, the FFT algorithm (which assumes the r= eal signal has the largest amplitude) gets confused and comes up with an est= imated frequency somewhere between the correct value and that of a nearby si= deband. The effect is small however because the AGC pumping action doesn't=20= occur very fast so the added sidebands are seen to be only some milliHertz a= way from the signal. The sidebands occur on both sides of the "real" signal= , so one might expect them to cancel out but in practice they don't because=20= the amount of error depends on where the "real" signal falls with respect to= the fixed frequency bins of the FFT. It should be possible to model the AG= C action of a particular receiver and compensate for it in the software. No= doubt the phenomenon becomes less significant with smaller FFT's or shorter= integration times. Changing the AGC setting between SLOW-FAST-OFF might he= lp under some conditions. With QRSS-60 signaling rates it can take a long t= ime to find out which setting is optimum, especially when band conditions ar= e changing or the QSB period is close to a bit time, hi! VE2IQ ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C99D95.60BBD420 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks to ALL who responded with quick and cogen= t=20 findings...
 
It has seemed for a time that with the receiver=20= AGC=20 and NBs OFF that I generally can see a deeper signal, depending on=20 conditions...
 
The final audio filter assures that the program=20= does=20 not have to deal with noise outside of the passband of=20 interest...
 
TNX
 
 
Here is today's gnawing question...  What i= s the=20 expected ambient noise say @ 600M one should expect??
Rural, City, Country, remote battery operated, e= tc.=20 combinations... Especially well away from AC neutral=20 wires...
 
Today I ran the input to the=20 SDR-IQ <= FONT size=3D2>into a 50 ohm load and set a long integrate ( 64+ )  an= d saw approx=20 -134 dbm of baseband noise with NO signals...
 
I then connected to the outside antenna with no=20 external pre-amp or any non linear device and saw -117 dbm of noise across 1= 0=20 khz. with a few weak and floating predictable BB noises..
 
At night it is sure to be up to near -100 dbm=20 depending on conditions and noises present...
 
What do YOU get for a noise difference between a= =20 terminated antenna input and your regular receive=20 antenna??
 
I'm about to place several e-probes about this p= lace=20 in order to mix and match phase and amplitudes in order to see what net gain= can=20 be made to the SNR with the hope that the most offending noises will not be=20= in=20 the path of a desired signal...
 
TNX and ain't this fun???
 
Dave @ WD2XSH/17
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Bill de Carle=
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 9:58= =20 AM
Subject: Re: LF: Deep copy...

At 09:25 PM 3/4/2009, you wrote:
I seem=20= to get=20 best results while trying to pull signals out of the noise when the AGC=20= of=20 the receiver is OFF as well as the Noise Blanker and Noise reduction=20 features being OFF...
 
Do you=20 concur??
 
Also setting a good a= udio=20 filter to the passband of interest seems to bypass some heavy static hit= s as=20 well...

I've noticed that when doing HF frequ= ency=20 measurement tests (working to the nearest milliHertz) - turning off the AG= C=20 under high static conditions seems to improve the accuracy of the measurem= ent,=20 at least with the software I use.  One plausible explanation is that=20= AGC=20 action necessarily introduces amplitude modulation (on all signals in the=20 passband).  When I process the AGC'd signal with what amounts to a ve= ry=20 narrow DSP filter the added amplitude modulation shows up as apparent=20 sidebands close-in on the signal I'm trying to measure.  If the power= in=20 those sidebands is comparable to that of the signal whose frequency I'm=20 looking for, the FFT algorithm (which assumes the real signal has the larg= est=20 amplitude) gets confused and comes up with an estimated frequency somewher= e=20 between the correct value and that of a nearby sideband.  The effect=20= is=20 small however because the AGC pumping action doesn't occur very fast so th= e=20 added sidebands are seen to be only some milliHertz away from the=20 signal.  The sidebands occur on both sides of the "real" signal, so o= ne=20 might expect them to cancel out but in practice they don't because the amo= unt=20 of error depends on where the "real" signal falls with respect to the fixe= d=20 frequency bins of the FFT.  It should be possible to model the AGC ac= tion=20 of a particular receiver and compensate for it in the software.  No d= oubt=20 the phenomenon becomes less significant with smaller FFT's or shorter=20 integration times.  Changing the AGC setting between SLOW-FAST-OFF mi= ght=20 help under some conditions.  With QRSS-60 signaling rates it can take= a=20 long time to find out which setting is optimum, especially when band=20 conditions are changing or the QSB period is close to a bit time,=20 hi!

VE2IQ
------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C99D95.60BBD420-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db07.mx.aol.com (rly-db07.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.82]) by air-db01.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDB013-ad549c01b1e1bf; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 17:50:37 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db07.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB073-ad549c01b1e1bf; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 17:50:23 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LjhAp-0007aT-SH for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 21:50:11 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LjhAp-0007aK-GF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 21:50:11 +0000 Received: from smtp3.citigroup.com ([199.67.203.181] helo=mail.citigroup.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LjhAo-00032S-H8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 21:50:11 +0000 Received: from imbarc-eu01.eur.nsroot.net (imbarc-eu01.eu.ssmb.com [169.183.21.39]) by imbaspam-eu04.eur.nsroot.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/SSMB_EXT/ev: 22534 $) with ESMTP id n2HLo2pD020251; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 21:50:02 GMT Received: from mailhub-dc1.eu.ssmb.com (mailhub-dc1.eu.ssmb.com [169.186.145.234]) by imbarc-eu01.eur.nsroot.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/SSMB_QQQ_IN/1.1) with ESMTP id n2HLnshd005739; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 21:49:54 GMT Received: from exuksm04.eur.nsroot.net (EXUKSM04.eur.nsroot.net [169.186.220.125]) by mailhub-dc1.eu.ssmb.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/CG_HUB) with ESMTP id n2HLnqsF015189; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 21:49:53 GMT Received: from exukmb49.eur.nsroot.net ([169.183.32.64]) by exuksm04.eur.nsroot.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Tue, 17 Mar 2009 21:49:47 +0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6619.12 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 21:49:47 -0000 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [137kHz] Test de f1afj qrss60 Thread-Index: AcmnRT95NMEXeVfwTsm4UNqiyuh32AABLs7g From: "Scholz, Marco " To: Cc: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Mar 2009 21:49:47.0922 (UTC) FILETIME=[4AAFBF20:01C9A74A] X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 169.186.247.39 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: LF: RE: [137kHz] Test de f1afj qrss60 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Jean-Pierre, I have a good copy of your QRSS60 transmission in JN49ax. Picture i send you directly tomorrow morning. vy73 Marco DD7PC RX: FT-857 with 137KHz Preamp and Miniwhip ant. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksh= eep.org] On Behalf Of "Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 (F1AFJ)" Sent: 17 March 2009 22:10 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: [137kHz] Test de f1afj qrss60 Hello LF I am in test on 137775 qrss60, 300 W until 22:00z Your reports will be welco= me 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da01.mx.aol.com (rly-da01.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.75]) by air-da08.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA083-a4b49cfd61f24f; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 16:12:25 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da01.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA013-a4b49cfd61f24f; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 16:12:16 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lo1Ls-0005SY-NH for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 21:11:28 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lo1Ls-0005SP-Bt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 21:11:28 +0100 Received: from smtprelay-virgin0177.hostedemail.com ([64.99.136.177] helo=smtprelay-virgin.hostedemail.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lo1Lp-00085o-OU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 21:11:28 +0100 Received: from filter.hostedemail.com (ff-bigip1 [10.5.19.254]) by smtprelay04.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with SMTP id D0007525E24 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 20:10:46 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Summary: 50,0,0,ea7abe221ea7cfe2,6936aa9012d44e86,i.marsh@virgin.net,rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org,RULES_HIT:355:379:599:601:854:967:973:988:989:1187:1260:1261:1277:1311:1313:1314:1345:1359:1437:1515:1516:1518:1534:1539:1593:1594:1711:1730:1747:1766:1792:2194:2199:2393:2525:2560:2563:2682:2685:2828:2857:2859:2892:2933:2937:2939:2942:2945:2947:2951:2954:3022:3027:3352:3865:3866:3867:3868:3869:3870:3871:3872:3873:3876:3877:3934:3936:3938:3941:3944:3947:3950:3953:3956:3959:4250:4648:5007:6114:6119:7652:7679:7903:8501:8784:8828:8957:9025:9388,0,RBL:none,CacheIP:none,Bayesian:0.5,0.5,0.5,Netcheck:none,DomainCache:0,MSF:not bulk,SPF:,MSBL:none,DNSBL:none Received: from [192.168.1.64] (client-82-2-84-13.manc.adsl.virgin.net [82.2.84.13]) (Authenticated sender: i.marsh@virgin.net) by omf09.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 20:10:46 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <49CFD5C4.2090503@virgin.net> Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 21:10:44 +0100 From: Ian Marsh User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000501c9b09e$561f8f40$0b01a8c0@weazle> In-Reply-To: <000501c9b09e$561f8f40$0b01a8c0@weazle> X-session-marker: 692E6D617273684076697267696E2E6E6574 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: OT-Frequency question Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello J.B. The UK Coast Guard is MF and VHF only with R/T, DSC and Navtex. Other than for military traffic, I don't think there are any HF marine transmissions at all from the UK these days, although there is still HF weather FAX on 4610 KHz. Think it's operated by the navy. 73 Ian/G4EXD J. B. Weazle McCreath wrote: > Hello LFers, > > Do any of you happen to know if the British Coast Guard does > any weather or marine safety broadcasts using HF SITOR? > If so, can you give me some frequencies or point me to a > source of such information. Thanks in advance. > > 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL > Solar and wind powered > Lowfer " EAR" 188.830 > EN93dr > > http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf02.mx.aol.com (rly-mf02.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.172]) by air-mf09.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMF092-94749c76307246; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 06:23:23 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf02.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF025-94749c76307246; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 06:23:05 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LlhIa-0005g6-HV for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 10:22:28 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LlhIa-0005fx-3M for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 10:22:28 +0000 Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.198.251]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LlhIW-0003BG-Jz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 10:22:27 +0000 Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id l33so1818412rvb.4 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 03:22:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=A+ydBGJinc/m7gVjtgimU+OgN54gKSBjAIN5O2gDS1M=; b=affqMu0Ai/4+83Hhic5BSAfnwyKI/m+TrPLELbwNw4efJrszUUBa6HFIoPGmnkFtM0 BVZmRbBgnFooy//zetE1uIxb24ePO4hUuu72sUKcWZSyTZZN0XxZvGsaiIZdQZNhylBI aOjGe07LIpWxnWwPW98k2djfF4BlkqNUP2qks= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=sS3Bsaax7LVX/aBxZRLdmSL2XDHgMvY3NHmCaDI/ln8hCmPA6U08UAcOkiU2cWf1X7 Q1UApihseOuyJJdrH9tc0gdMNoEg3Bdo42flVaLv0nibHtJKwqgCf5Eq0YZXW2/woltC nZY33FG7PZkwSqZQJsu5Xr6PEt0rohc7SiB8E= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.114.183.1 with SMTP id g1mr4185262waf.140.1237803742498; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 03:22:22 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 10:22:22 +0000 Message-ID: <5931f8db0903230322l32c6424i6e35d6764448381b@mail.gmail.com> From: Harry Woodhouse To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Subject: Re: LF: RE: 136kHz activity 21 March [G3MFW] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00163646ca825f97580465c6a4b9 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m204.2 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --00163646ca825f97580465c6a4b9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Dave & others on LF Group. I have just joined the LF Group - I'm afraid I find the internet rather challenging! I am amazed at the help and friendship I have received. Thank you all for your encouragement. I have learned a lot already from the Group, and will continue to read & learn. I cannot transmit on Sundays - we are involved with our local village church, but I hope to be on again next Saturday morning 28th March. If members have no time for a QSO, your reports are most welcome. Best 73s, Harry G3MFW On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 11:28 PM, wrote: > Thanx Dave,very interresting measures. > > > *F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP > http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/* > > > > Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 22/03/2009 23:08:24 Paris, Madrid, > ganymede444@btopenworld.com a =E9crit : > > LF, > > Congratulations to Harry G3MFW for putting a very strong signal into > IO91RM. > Screenshot attached. Mike G3XDV also captured on the screenshot. > > Signal strengths measured on my "Tee" antenna with the SPM-30 as follows:- > > G3XDV -42 dBm > G3MFW -61 dBm > F6BWO -70 dBm > F4DTL -73 dBm > Noise floor -80 dBm in 24 Hz bandwidth > > > 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor, SE England > > > > > --00163646ca825f97580465c6a4b9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Dave & others on LF Group. I have just joined the LF Group - I'= m afraid I find the internet rather challenging! I am amazed at the help and= friendship I have received. Thank you all for your encouragement. I have le= arned a lot already from the Group, and will continue to read & learn. I= cannot transmit on Sundays - we are involved with our local village church,= but I hope to be on again next Saturday morning 28th March. If members have= no time for a QSO, your reports are most welcome.
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Best 73s,
=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Harry G3MFW<= br>
On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 11:28 PM, <F4DTL@aol.com>= wrote:
Thanx Dave,very interresting measures.
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F4DTL=20 Nicolas JN18FP
http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/
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Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 22/03/2009 23:08:24 Paris, Madrid,=20 ganymede444= @btopenworld.com a =E9crit :
LF= ,

Congratulations to Harry G3MFW for putting a very strong=20 signal into IO91RM.
Screenshot attached. Mike G3XDV also captured on th= e=20 screenshot.

Signal strengths measured on my "Tee" antenna= with the=20 SPM-30 as follows:-

G3XDV -42 dBm
G3MFW -61 dBm
F6BWO=A0=20 =A0 -70 dBm
F4DTL -73 dBm
Noise floor -80 dBm in 24 Hz=20 bandwidth


73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor, SE=20 England



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--00163646ca825f97580465c6a4b9-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh07.mx.aol.com (rly-mh07.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.143]) by air-mh04.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMH044-be449c01ed8207; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 18:06:35 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh07.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH074-be449c01ed8207; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 18:06:17 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LjhQ9-0007r1-Dr for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 22:06:01 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LjhQ9-0007qs-24 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 22:06:01 +0000 Received: from bay0-omc3-s27.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.227]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LjhQ6-00039I-Vk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 22:06:01 +0000 Received: from BAY101-W21 ([64.4.56.121]) by bay0-omc3-s27.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 17 Mar 2009 15:05:48 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [212.4.140.33] From: Lubos OK2BVG To: Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 23:05:48 +0100 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <49C01194.2010305@online.fr> References: <49C01194.2010305@online.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Mar 2009 22:05:48.0902 (UTC) FILETIME=[8779A860:01C9A74C] X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_af3a8542-eabf-4118-ac1a-ec52f1c1cd62_" Subject: RE: LF: [137kHz] Test de f1afj qrss60 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_af3a8542-eabf-4118-ac1a-ec52f1c1cd62_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Jean-Pierre, LF! Your signal is FB "O" here in JN88KS. Lubos, OK2BVG > Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 22:09:40 +0100 > From: jpm.f1afj@online.fr > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: LF: [137kHz] Test de f1afj qrss60 >=20 > Hello LF > I am in test on 137775 qrss60, 300 W until 22:00z > Your reports will be welcome > 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj >=20 _________________________________________________________________ Pozvi sv=E9 p=F8=E1tele z Facebooku a Hotmailu do Messengeru! https://www.invite2messenger.net/Default.aspx=3D --_af3a8542-eabf-4118-ac1a-ec52f1c1cd62_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Jean-Pierre, LF!
Your signal is FB "O" here in JN88KS.

Lubos= , OK2BVG



> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 22:09:40 +0100
> F= rom: jpm.f1afj@online.fr
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep..org
> S= ubject: LF: [137kHz] Test de f1afj qrss60
>
> Hello LF
>=20= I am in test on 137775 qrss60, 300 W until 22:00z
> Your reports will=20= be welcome
> 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj
>

St=E1hn=ECte= si zcela nov=FD Messenger 2009! 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193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d239.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Thank you Jean-Pierre for the report and the 'grabber'! --=20 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 3:15 AM, "Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 (F1AFJ)" wrote: > Hello LF , > > Very good copy WD2XGJ and WD2XKO last night . > Thank you Warren and Dex for beaconning > > 73 qro Jean-Pierre F1AFJ > http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm > > --=20 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf05.mx.aol.com (rly-mf05.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.175]) by air-mf07.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMF074-95b49c9ead9233; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 04:27:19 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf05.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF051-95b49c9ead9233; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 04:27:08 -0400 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------=_NextPart_000_007E_01C9A27B.8D9D4060-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf04.mx.aol.com (rly-mf04.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.174]) by air-mf06.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMF062-95749b1362e1e9; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 09:42:04 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf04.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF045-95749b1362e1e9; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 09:41:52 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LfbEy-0004fF-Vt for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 14:41:32 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LfbEy-0004f6-5C for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 14:41:32 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.151] helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LfbEw-0000PM-8o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 14:41:32 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3512.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id C2CDB7000084 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 15:41:22 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.23.203]) by mwinf3512.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 3CC027000083 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 15:41:22 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20090306144122248.3CC027000083@mwinf3512.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <9C03FBF153AB478A9B0DBC5580CF20D2@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <0566EF6DE20B4249A3E74859BF9BA2C6@AGB> In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 14:41:21 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8064.206 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8064.206 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Multi-function beacon Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_005A_01C99E69.9DF7FEC0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_005A_01C99E69.9DF7FEC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ok Andy, Obvious question, hi,=20 How long are you thinking of running the beacon and where do you want th= e report files to be sent ? There may be quite a few records generated in a short time, I note from the=20= last 'hfc' that there is quite a backlog of data from the 5 meg operation=20= but there is movement to analyse the data. should prove interesting .. =20 How aggressive is the pulsed section of the tx cycle,?, I know there is som= e interest in using that facility for study's on 500, but as yet I have not=20= found the rise/fall and timing parameters. dose it need to be a pulse or =20= could a small frequency shift be used if time is being measured ? Tnx- G ..=20 From: Andy Talbot=20 Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 1:11 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: Multi-function beacon There is no auto reporting feature in that S/W. It generates a log file c= ontaining S/N of each beacon / time slot, which the user then has to persona= lly send to the 5MHz working group. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/3/6 Graham Andy, Quick Q .. is the reception software capable of auto reporting to the 5=20= meg group ? I have an idea it has this facility .or at least produces a -5 meg- repor= t file . if so can it be turned off ? G ..=20 From: Andy Talbot=20 Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 11:03 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Cc: jfell@tesco.net=20 Subject: LF: Multi-function beacon I've now started transmitting a timed beacon signal on 503.7kHz that is i= dentical in format to that of GB3SSS operated over the winter months of the=20= last two years from Poldhu on 1.9 and 3.5MHz, and has a similar signal str= ucture to the 5MHz beacons, GB3RAL, WES and ORK. These all have an initial=20= CW ident and stepped power levels for aural reception, and a precisely defin= ed period of full-power plain carrier for S/N measurements. =20 See http://www.rsgb-spectrumforum.org.uk/5mhz%20beacons.htm for the com= plete 5MHz signal structure. For this MF transmission, as on GB3SSS, the p= ulsed sounder sequence of the 5MHz beacons is replaced with a PSK31 message=20= which lasts from 30s to approx 48 seconds after the start Auto Monitoring software writen by G3PLX is available for monitoring these= beacons, it measures signal to noise during the carrier period and saves to= file as well as plotting the last 40 hours worth of measurements. The software can be downloaded from http://www.rsgb.org/spectrumforum/hf/= beaconauto.php . PSK31 data can be copied with Digipan, Fldigi, PSK31SBW o= r a host of other packages. TIMING=20 The 503.7kHz transmission takes place every 15 minutes at 4 minutes past t= he quarter hour. =20 ie each transmission starts at xx:04, xx:19, xx:34 and xx:49 This time=20= slot has been selected so that the transmission do not interfere with my con= tinuous ongoing reception of the 5Mhz beacons - the active antenna used for=20= these is overloaded by the 500kHz signal and I have already lost data when t= he WSPR beacon transmission coincided with one of the monitoring windows. NOTE If using the G3PLX software, this only monitors for the three 5MHz=20= beacons at 00, 01 and 02 minutes. SO IT WILL BE NECESSARY TO FRIG THE SOFTWARE to monitor this transmission= at the 04 minute point. The necessary alteration can be done by firstly s= etting your PC clock accurately to the correct time, then setting the Track=20= Time box to -240 (minus 240 seconds). This will make the software look for=20= this transmission during the time window it thinks it would be receiving GB3= RAL, and log the MF transmission during the first minute, on the red trace,=20= as if it were GB3RAL=20 The beacon uses the identical hardware to the WSPR transmissions of the la= st few weeks, with the the only change being a reprogramming of the controll= er PIC. In fact the very same hardware was previously loaned to the Poldhu= club for their beacons, with the only difference being a change to the fina= l Low Pass filter on the output of the broadband PA. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.8/1985 - Release Date: 03/05/09=20= 07:54:00 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- No virus found in this incoming message. 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Ok Andy,
 
Obvious question, hi,
 
How long are you  thinking of running=20 the  beacon and where do  you  want the report files to = be=20 sent ?
 
There may be quite a few records generated=20= in a=20 short time, I note from the last 'hfc' th= at there=20 is quite a backlog of data from the  5  meg operation but there is= =20 movement
to analyse the  data. should prove int= eresting=20 ...  
 
How aggressive is the pulsed section of the=  =20 tx cycle,?, I know there is some interest in using that facility for study's= on=20 500, but as yet I have not  found the rise/fall and timing parameters.=20= dose=20 it need to  be a pulse or  could a small frequency shift be used i= f=20 time is being measured ?
 
Tnx- G ..
 
 
 
 
 
 

Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 1:11 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Multi-function beacon

There is no auto reporting feature in that S/W.    It=20 generates a log file containing S/N of each beacon / time slot, which the us= er=20 then has to personally send to the 5MHz working group.

Andy  G4JNT
= www.g4jnt.com


2009/3/6 Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
Andy,
 
Quick Q .. is the  reception softwar= e=20 capable of auto reporting to the  5 meg group ?
 
I have an idea it has this  facility= .or at=20 least produces a -5 meg- report file . if so can it be turned off=20 ?
 
 
G ..

Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 11:03 AM
Subject: LF: Multi-function beacon

I've now started transmitting a timed  beacon signal on=20 503.7kHz that is identical in format to that of GB3SSS operated over=20= the=20 winter months of the last two years  from Poldhu on 1.9 and 3.5M= Hz,=20  and has a similar signal structure to the 5MHz beacons, GB3RAL,= WES=20 and ORK.  These all have an initial CW ident and stepped po= wer=20 levels for aural reception, and a precisely defined period of full-po= wer=20 plain carrier for S/N measurements.  
See   http://www.rsgb-spectrumforum.org.uk/= 5mhz%20beacons.htm =20 for the complete 5MHz  signal structure.  For this MF=20 transmission, as on GB3SSS, the pulsed sounder sequence of the 5MHz beacon= s is=20 replaced with a PSK31 message which lasts from 30s to approx 48 secon= ds=20 after the start
 
Auto Monitoring software writen by G3PLX is available for monitoring=20 these beacons, it measures signal to noise during the carrier period and s= aves=20 to file as well as plotting the last 40 hours worth of measurements.
The software can be downloaded from  http://www.rsgb= .org/spectrumforum/hf/beaconauto.php .  =20 PSK31 data can be copied with Digipan, Fldigi, PSK31SBW or a host of other= =20 packages.
 
TIMING
The 503.7kHz transmission takes place every 15 minutes at 4 minutes p= ast=20 the quarter hour. 
ie each transmission starts at xx:04, xx:19, xx:34 and=20 xx:49    This time slot has been selected so=20= that=20 the transmission do not interfere with my continuous ongoing reception of=20= the=20 5Mhz beacons - the active antenna used for these is overloaded by the 500k= Hz=20 signal and I have already lost data when the WSPR beacon transmission=20 coincided with one of the monitoring windows.
 
NOTE   If using the G3PLX software, this=20 only monitors for the three 5MHz beacons at  00, 01 and 02=20 minutes.
SO IT WILL BE NECESSARY TO FRIG THE SOFTWARE=20  to monitor this transmission at the 04 minute=20 point.   The necessary alteration can be done by firstly=20 setting your PC clock accurately to the correct time, then setting th= e=20 Track Time box to -240 (minus 240 seconds).  This will make the softw= are=20 look for this transmission during the time window it thinks it would=20= be=20 receiving GB3RAL, and log the MF transmission during the first minute= , on=20 the red trace, as if it were GB3RAL 
 
The beacon uses the identical hardware to the WSPR transmissions= =20 of the last few weeks, with the the only change being=20 a reprogramming of the controller PIC.   In fact the very s= ame=20 hardware was previously loaned to the Poldhu club for their beacons, with=20= the=20 only difference being a change to the final Low Pass filter on the output=20= of=20 the broadband PA.
 
Andy  G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com


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------=_NextPart_000_005A_01C99E69.9DF7FEC0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de04.mx.aol.com (rly-de04.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.140]) by air-de03.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDE032-4cb49be8a621d2; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 13:20:57 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de04.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE042-4cb49be8a621d2; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 13:20:36 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LjGTk-00050d-Uu for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 17:19:56 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LjGTk-00050U-78 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 17:19:56 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.128]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LjGTg-0000xo-54 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 17:19:56 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3417.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 528A71C00087 for ; 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SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0046_01C9A65B.64F43310 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0047_01C9A65B.64F43310" ------=_NextPart_001_0047_01C9A65B.64F43310 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Gary, The page seemed to refresh quite often ... are there two settings ?=20 G ..=20 From: Gary - G4WGT=20 Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:40 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software Hi Graham, LF, =20 You wrote :- >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute interval= s. <<< that could be backed off to 15 mins as the beacon only sends every=20= 15 ??=20 =20 I mentioned in my previous mail to ignore the text on the page as it was ori= ginally for grabber 1 for when I upgrade the web site (to a new design & bet= ter navigation etc), also mentioned is that upload is every 30 minutes. =20 If the uploaded chart proves useful or interesting to operators & viewers th= en I will change the text & make it a permanent feature for the foreseeable=20= future. =20 BTW :- =20 For those of you who are not familiar with the chart -=20 =20 The RED trace is Andy's (G4JNT) beacon signal & the BLACK trace is the noise= level at my QTH. =20 The Blue & GREEN are not in use & should be ignored on this chart as they ar= e for the other beacons used when monitoring on the 5MHz allocation. =20 Cheers, =20 Gary - G4WGT =20 =20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksh= eep.org] On Behalf Of Graham Sent: 15 March 2009 22:17 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software =20 Gary.. =20 That looks good ... 0500 looks best time for a qso .. see you then =20 =20 >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute interval= s. <<< that could be backed off to 15 mins as the beacon only sends every=20= 15 ??=20 =20 the 15 db over the noise in day time is the same at this qth .. looks like= the big dips round 1900 where just when we where testing .. typical hihi =20 tnx- G ..=20 =20 From: Gary - G4WGT=20 Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 7:55 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: LF: RE: Syncback software =20 LF, =20 I have now got the software, Syncback running correctly (I think). =20 The purpose of this is to upload the chart from Andy's beacon as received he= re to my web site periodically, ie. every 30 minutes. =20 I now have a receiver running 24/7 monitoring Andy,s beacon on 503.7KHz. =20 You can view the chart on my web site at :- =20 http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html =20 For the moment ignore the text on the page as it is originally designed to u= se with the 500KHz grabber when I renew my web site design. If it is a usefu= l upload I will make it a permanent feature but may have to extend the frequ= ency coverage of grabber 1 so not to overload the PC with operations which w= ill cause the PC to struggle. =20 Let me have your comments please. =20 73 =20 Gary - G4WGT. =20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksh= eep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT Sent: 15 March 2009 16:10 To: LF -RSGB LF Group Subject: LF: Syncback software =20 Hi LF, =20 If anyone is using Syncback software & can help, please. =20 I am tying to upload a file to my website who's filename does not change, on= ly the file size changes. I tried to do it with Argo-upload but failed so I=20= downloaded Syncback & still failing. =20 Syncback gives me the following message :- =20 ********************************** Can connect, but unable to change to destination directory: /chart01.bmp:not a directory ********************************** The Syncback help does not give me the answer. =20 Any help will be appreciated =20 Or =20 Will Argo-Upload do it? =20 Or =20 Is there something else to do it? =20 Thanks in anticipation, =20 73, =20 Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. =20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.13/2001 - Release Date: 03/14/09 0= 6:54:00 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.15/2003 - Release Date: 03/15/09 1= 4:07:00 ------=_NextPart_001_0047_01C9A65B.64F43310 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Gary,
 
The page seemed to  refresh quite ofte= n ...=20 are there two settings ?
 
G ..

Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:40 AM
Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software

H= i=20 Graham, LF,

<= o:p> 

Y= ou=20 wrote :-

>>>Upload=20 is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute intervals.=20 <<< that could be backed off to  15 mins as the beacon only&nb= sp;=20 sends every 15 ??

<= o:p> 

I= =20 mentioned in my previous mail to ignore the text on the page as it was=20 originally for grabber 1 for when I upgrade the web site (to a new design &a= mp;=20 better navigation etc), also mentioned is that upload is every 30=20 minutes.

<= o:p> 

I= f=20 the uploaded chart proves useful or interesting to operators & viewers t= hen=20 I will change the text & make it a permanent feature for the foreseeable= =20 future.

<= o:p> 

B= TW=20 :-

<= o:p> 

F= or=20 those of you  who are not familiar with the chart =96=20

<= o:p> 

T= he=20 RED trace is Andy=92s (G4JNT) beacon signal & the BLACK trace is the noi= se=20 level at my QTH.

<= o:p> 

T= he=20 Blue & GREEN are not in use & should be ignored on this chart as the= y=20 are for the other beacons used when monitoring on the 5MHz=20 allocation.

<= o:p> 

C= heers,

<= o:p> 

G= ary=20 =96 G4WGT

<= o:p> 

<= o:p> 

From: owner-rsgb_= lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham
Sent: 15 March= 2009 22:17
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
<= SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback=20 software

 

Ga= ry..

 

That looks good  ... 0500 looks=20 best time for a qso .. see you then 3D"Smile 

 

>>>= Upload is=20 set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute intervals. <<&l= t;=20 that could be backed off to  15 mins as the beacon only  sends eve= ry=20 15 ??

 

the  15= db over=20 the noise in day time is the  same at this qth .. looks like the big di= ps=20 round 1900  where just when we where testing ..  typical=20 hihi

 

tnx- G ..=20

 

From: Gary - G4WGT=20

Sent: Sunday,=20 March 15, 2009 7:55 PM

Subject: LF: RE:=20 Syncback software

 

L= F,

<= o:p> 

I= =20 have now got the software, Syncback running correctly (I=20 think).

<= o:p> 

T= he=20 purpose of this is to upload the chart from Andy=92s beacon as received here= to my=20 web site periodically, ie. every 30 minutes.

<= o:p> 

I= =20 now have a receiver running 24/7 monitoring Andy,s beacon on=20 503.7KHz.

<= o:p> 

Y= ou=20 can view the chart on my web site at :-

<= o:p> 

<= A href=3D"http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html">http://myweb.= tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html

<= o:p> 

F= or=20 the moment ignore the text on the page as it is originally designed to use w= ith=20 the 500KHz grabber when I renew my web site design. If it is a useful upload= I=20 will make it a permanent feature but may have to extend the frequency covera= ge=20 of grabber 1 so not to overload the PC with operations which will cause the=20= PC=20 to struggle.

<= o:p> 

L= et=20 me have your comments please.

<= o:p> 

7= 3

<= o:p> 

G= ary=20 =96 G4WGT.

<= o:p> 

From: owner-rsgb_= lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT
Sent: 15= March 2009 16:10
To: <= st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">LF -RSGB LF=20 Group
Subject:=20 LF: Syncback software

=

 

Hi=20 LF,

 

If anyone is=20 using Syncback software & can help, please.=

 

I am tying to=20 upload a file to my website who=92s filename does not change, only the file=20= size=20 changes. I tried to do it with Argo-upload but failed so I downloaded Syncba= ck=20 & still failing.

 

Syncback gives me=20 the following message :-

 

***************************= *******

Can connect, but=20 unable to change to destination directory:

/chart01.bmp:not=20 a directory

***************************= *******

The Syncback help=20 does not give me the answer.

 

Any help will be=20 appreciated

 

Or=

 

Will Argo-Upload=20 do it?

 

Or=

 

Is there=20 something else to do it?

 

Thanks in=20 anticipation,

 

73,=

 

Gary - G4WGT -=20 IO83QP.

 


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193.82.116.20 Hello Rik, Many thanks for the reception report, especially for daytime reception this is very good. Still running in the 50 mW ERP range (1 A antenna current, 8 m long antenna). Best 73 Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rik Strobbe" To: Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 9:34 PM Subject: LF: 500kHz daytime > Dear all, > > as I checked the band at 15 UTC today I noticed very good daytime > signals from DI2AM (612km) and OK0EMW (904km) as well as DI2BO (402km) > on 440kHz. > > 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > > Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da09.mx.aol.com (rly-da09.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.83]) by air-da02.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDA021-a8d49c09af91da; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 02:56:16 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da09.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA095-a8d49c09af91da; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 02:55:55 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LjpgK-0003F0-Ub for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 06:55:16 +0000 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Hi Lf,
capture DI2BO
Henny pa3cpm
73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
DI2BO 20-03.jpg

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China To: , , alanmelia melia , Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 15:52:03 -0800 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Mar 2009 23:52:03.0454 (UTC) FILETIME=[349759E0:01C9A692] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_4b85166f-1f18-479f-8158-a9c4297c5da5_" Subject: LF: Costa rica ops X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_4b85166f-1f18-479f-8158-a9c4297c5da5_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" 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See how. =3D --_4b85166f-1f18-479f-8158-a9c4297c5da5_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg01.mx.aol.com (rly-mg01.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.107]) by air-mg09.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMG093-9f549c22af667; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 07:22:51 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg01.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG017-9f549c22af667; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 07:22:32 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LkGKF-0003hr-It for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 11:22:15 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LkGKF-0003hi-5z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 11:22:15 +0000 Received: from mailout09.t-online.de ([194.25.134.84]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LkGKD-0001iI-GQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 11:22:15 +0000 Received: from fwd01.aul.t-online.de by mailout09.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 1LkGK9-0005kJ-00; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 12:22:09 +0100 Received: from e7010 (rPGJOgZCwhCM3lnRDmFLc2OWksBwUr5O5GaX4gnIk7FQh+vAT9jwae4I4Rken-uQMp@[84.147.205.119]) by fwd01.aul.t-online.de with smtp id 1LkGJi-0LFAGW0; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 12:21:42 +0100 Message-ID: <000d01c9a884$e1bab970$1402a8c0@e7010> From: "Walter und Marianne Staubach" To: References: <000901c9a81c$6147b5d0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 12:21:42 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4927.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 X-ID: rPGJOgZCwhCM3lnRDmFLc2OWksBwUr5O5GaX4gnIk7FQh+vAT9jwae4I4Rken-uQMp X-TOI-MSGID: 9a3242b7-3fb6-442c-b288-a73b21eafa19 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: WE2XGR/2 WSPR Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Please at what time in UTC exactly? 73 Walter DI2AG ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "SHMRG@piobaire.mines.ui" ; "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep" ; Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 11:53 PM Subject: LF: WE2XGR/2 WSPR > WE2XPR/2 will be transmitting in WSPR mode tonight on 508.52 kHz (507.00 dial)...trying for copy by > KL1X DXpedition in Costa Rica. > > Reports from other areas are of course appreciated. > > Jat W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df06.mx.aol.com (rly-df06.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.19]) by air-df05.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDF052-55849c0f30615f; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 09:11:36 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df06.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF063-55849c0f30615f; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 09:11:36 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LjvXt-0006cw-23 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 13:10:57 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LjvXs-0006cn-Mj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 13:10:56 +0000 Received: from mail-qy0-f107.google.com ([209.85.221.107]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LjvXp-0006ro-UR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 13:10:56 +0000 Received: by qyk5 with SMTP id 5so22362qyk.30 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 06:10:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=+hHFn671upZX+XoyLBLnEGiViGqUlA2qsHpWssf8spk=; b=O9Q1KsBtdHnpmf+R6PSQk12/LOLvutOtWn0dKE8DGLjM/YLbWmlX7A9eAhwEStn5cz ulK+UU9/yp60MdJ8JkDbKnJFyyZka5rHpKAD4W23ywIVrkPJZKnbdDh1Sg9uae7uf6/I yZLtGEBxTAV2UrYZnqJRFk6omBBbm0TaL2fEw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=FQ4/3kz1IAA66Am9ksnDBVTVtDEKJcZIglZsdzRJ35vIGxF7/8xieE8khQb5szMm4b 6xJT5IMETEhiOqYCwwN17QkRTE/vp/XA6Q9+fhgMxjB7K3pEPdQXgv7la4d4ZdwN9oK6 h1PsDrEQX8vwhHtWNC6b3L8MiwXd7XunTfBy4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.74.75 with SMTP id t11mr1932274qaj.144.1237380531731; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 05:48:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 08:48:51 -0400 Message-ID: <57a24ca70903180548s601fa61dkd6377ac84e1c7742@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: XGJ_XKO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d282.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Lubos, Thanks for monitoring. Hopefully there will be better conditions soon! --=20 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 2009/3/18 Lubos OK2BVG : > Hello Warren, LF! > I saw traces of=A0 callsigns XGJ and XKO only. The weather was awful last > night. It was raining and there were strong wind and storm here. But it is > clear now, so I hope this night will be better. > > 73 > > Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS > > ________________________________ > St=E1hn=ECte si zcela nov=FD Messenger 2009! Klikni zde! --=20 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg08.mx.aol.com (rly-mg08.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.114]) by air-mg04.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMG044-a2849b825eb59; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 16:58:49 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg08.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG082-a2849b825eb59; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 16:58:21 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LhVV5-0003gD-I1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 20:58:03 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LhVV4-0003g4-EG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 20:58:02 +0000 Received: from mout2.freenet.de ([195.4.92.92]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LhVUx-0005xa-KF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 20:58:02 +0000 Received: from [195.4.92.22] (helo=12.mx.freenet.de) by mout2.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID beckmann.erlangen@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #76) id 1LhVUw-00034l-9x; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 21:57:54 +0100 Received: from w1e26.w.pppool.de ([89.58.30.38]:1169 helo=2a2d7ed321c6425) by 12.mx.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID beckmann.erlangen@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #76) id 1LhVUt-00040c-JT; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 21:57:54 +0100 From: "Beckmann, Gerhard" To: Cc: "'Chris Osborn'" References: <661888.79627.qm@web28507.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <0ADA06CA43A34FB2A0AF972E6D77252A@2a2d7ed321c6425> Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 21:57:54 +0100 Message-ID: <7EEF2A7C36F34458B2C6EE0A272C6F05@2a2d7ed321c6425> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <0ADA06CA43A34FB2A0AF972E6D77252A@2a2d7ed321c6425> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: AclxcDZq9dgJStjFRyyzJejyT3EpWgAZTqFQDC15OiA= X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Subject: LF: Reception Report: G3XIZ calling CQ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001B_01C9A294.6FA31CB0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C9A294.6FA31CB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Chris, Group, =20 I am receiving your CQ-Call in Normal CW-Mode !!! on 502.7 kHz loud and clea= r,=20 fine audible here in JN59LN. =20 vy 73 de Gerhard // DK6NI =20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =20 _____ =20 Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blackshe= ep.org] Im Auftrag von Beckmann, Gerhard Gesendet: Donnerstag, 8. Januar 2009 22:43 An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Cc: 'Chris Osborn' Betreff: LF: 500 kHz - Silent majority =20 Hallo Chris, =20 just now I read your sad message about reducing your CW-activities on 500 kc= . Because this band is unfortunately still not released for German radio amate= urs, I am often listening for stations in CW- and QRSS - Mode, and I am alwa= ys happy to hear someone on this very interesting frequency. Also it should be taken into consideration, that not all OM=E2=80=99s are fa= miliar with the new Digital Modes on this experimental band. So I would be very happy if there would operate some OM=E2=80=99s still in t= he =E2=80=9Ctraditional modes=E2=80=9D. Last but not least only these modes are allowing crossband.QSO=E2=80=99s whi= ch are making our hobby somewhat more interesting. =20 vy 73 de Gerhard / DK6NI =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 _____ =20 Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blackshe= ep.org] Im Auftrag von Chris Osborn Gesendet: Donnerstag, 8. Januar 2009 10:02 An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Betreff: LF: 500 kHz - Silent majority =20 I deduce that my (fairly) frequent transmissions on MF may be causing some annoyance and inconvenience to local stations. =20 Consequently I shall be QRT on 500 kHz for the remainder of this month. This will give local stations an opportunity to use a quiet band without G3XIZ QRM. =20 I must report that sadly Adrian G4GDR has dismantled his MF equipment and returned his N.O.V. to OfCom. He was an active and keen MF operator and constructor but has lost interest=20= due to lack of activity. I for one will miss him. =20 73 Chris G3XIZ =20 =20 =20 _____ =20 From: Dave G3WCB To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Monday, 5 January, 2009 22:22:55 Subject: RE: LF: Re: Silent majority =EF=BB=BF=20 Dear LF,=20 =20 Geri DK8KW and Markus did some interesting slow-voice experiments on 137 kHz= a few years back.=20 =20 Definitely not a DX-mode, and a bit of a bandwidth-gobbler too ;-) =20 Follow the link below:-=20 =20 http://www.qru.de/slowvoice.html =20 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM =20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep..org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacks= heep.org]On Behalf Of M0FMT Sent: 05 January 2009 02:37 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep..org Subject: Re: LF: Re: Silent majority Hi LF=20 Since by general consent the 600m band is now wide open for experimentation=20= of whatever computer aided mode that can be down loaded for free off the Int= ernet. Might I suggest the use of SSTV. They say a picture is worth a 1000 w= ords. I have thousands of holiday snaps I would like to share with the world= by way of a 24/7 beaconing experiment. The result may be a bit more intere= sting than the shopping lists of stations worked, equipment lists and rig sp= ecifications that get churned out ad nauseam over the weekends.=20 I am not sure what my afore mentioned local Amateur Radio 600m op friends wo= uld feel being only a few miles away from my QTH.=20 No, the above suggestion is ridiculous. It does however, Einstein, Planck et= al withstanding, beg the question; what is a suitable maximum bandwidth for= the development of new modes on our British 3Kc/s 600m band? I will start=20= the ball rolling by saying a BW no more than 50c/s. G3PLX managed with less=20= than 32c/s BW. Since there is a QSB / QRN issue on this band then hand shaki= ng could be introduced to ensure error free data transfer a bit like X25 slo= w but sure yet confined in a very narrow bandwidth say 50c/s max. We need t= o think outside the box and not try to shoe horn unsuitable modes onto 600m.= To evoke names like Planck and co with all due respect to Alberto (who I ad= mire immensely for his great innovations with DSP, SDR, FFT processing softw= are) I think, is over the top. Nobody is into book burning and denial of sp= ectrum to impede progress but we only have 3kc/s to play with here in the UK= . I consider myself a =E2=80=9Cgrunt=E2=80=9D operator not a highflying=20= =E2=80=9CEinstein=E2=80=9D radio spectrum quantum mechanic, but I would hope= we are trying to do more with less and I don=E2=80=99t think Olivia is the=20= answer. Whatever modes are proposed and developed, I would expect one of the= cardinal points in their specification, along with very narrow BW, to be co= mpatibility with adjacent modes like CW and the effect on adjacent stations=20= not running that particular mode.=20 In the mean time I am hoping to improve my manual CW skills assuming there a= re any stations still interested in that form of error correcting narrow ban= d data transfer and are still prepared to QSO with me.=20 Now retreating into my cave with my knuckles dragging along the ground.=20 Vy 73 petefmt=20 --- On Mon, 5/1/09, Alberto di Bene wrote: From: Alberto di Bene Subject: LF: Re: Silent majority To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Monday, 5 January, 2009, 12:05 AM Steve McDonald wrote: >> There is virtually nothing new to discover or invent that has not already >> taken place on MF. >=20 > There you go guys. You may as well stop your 600m experiments right now as > Mal has proclaimed that there is "nothing new to discover". Wouldn't it be > wonderful if we could all see the future as clearly as he apparently does. > What an amazing gift. >=20 > VE7SL / Steve =20 This reminds me what Max Planck did write at the beginning of past century. At the turn of the 20th century scientists were absolutely certain that ther= e was nothing more to be discovered in theoretical physics. Max Planck, recalling the mood of optimism and conviction at that time, wrot= e: =20 =E2=80=9CWhen I began my physical studies [in Munich in 1874] and sought adv= ice from my venerable teacher Phillipp von Jolly... he portrayed to me physics as a highly developed almost fully matured science.... Possibly in one or another nook there would perhaps be a dust particle or a small bubble to be examined and classified, but the system as a whole stood there fairly secured, and theoretical physics approached visibly that degree of perfection which, for example, geometry has had already for centuries=E2=80=9D. =20 The history of physics during the 20th century did show how dumb was that point of view... =20 73 Alberto I2PHD =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C9A294.6FA31CB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello Chris, G= roup,

 

I am receiving= your CQ-Call in Normal CW-Mode !!! on 502.7 kHz loud and clear,

fine audible h= ere in JN59LN.

 

vy 73 de Gerha= rd=C2=A0 //=C2=A0 DK6NI

 

=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

 =

Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von Beckmann, Gerhard
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 8. Janu= ar 2009 22:43
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Cc: 'Chris Osborn'
Betreff: LF: 500 kHz - Silent majority

 

Hallo Chris,<= o:p>

 

just now I read your sad message about r= educing your CW-activities on 500 kc.

Because this band= is unfortunately still not released for German radio amateurs, I am often listening for stations in= CW- and QRSS - Mode, and I am always happy to hear someone on this very interest= ing frequency.

Also it should be taken into consideration, that not=20= all OM=E2=80=99s are familiar with the n= ew Digital Modes on this experimental band.

So I would be very happy if there would operate some=20= OM=E2=80=99s still in the =E2=80=9Ctradi= tional modes=E2=80=9D.

Last but not least only these modes are allowing cros= sband.QSO=E2=80=99s which are making our hobby somewhat more interesting.

 

vy 73 de Gerhard  /  DK6NI

 

 

 

 

 =

Von:= owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g] Im Auftrag von Chris Osborn
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 8. Janu= ar 2009 10:02
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Betreff: LF: 500 kHz - Silent majority

 

I deduce that my (fairly) frequent transmissions on MF m= ay be causing

some annoyance and inconvenience to local stations.=

 

Consequently I shall be QRT on 500 kHz for the remainder= of this month.

This will give local stations an opportunity to use = ;a quiet band without

G3XIZ QRM.

 

I must report that sadly Adrian G4GDR has dismantled his= MF equipment

and returned his N.O.V. to OfCom.

He was an active and keen MF operator and constructor bu= t has lost interest due

to lack of activity.

I for one will miss him.

 

73 Chris G3XIZ

 


 

 

From: Dave G3WCB <ganymede444@btopenworld.com>
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Sent: Monday, 5 January, 2009 22:22:55
Subject: RE: LF: Re: Silent majority

=EF=BB=BF

Dear LF, =

 

Geri DK8KW and Markus d= id some interesting slow-voice experiments on 137 kHz a few years back.

 

Definitely not a DX-mod= e, and a bit of a bandwidth-gobbler too ;-)

 

Follow the link below:-=

 

 

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM

 =

-----Original Mess= age-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep..org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of M0FMT
Sent: 05 January 2009 02:37 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= .org
Subject: Re: LF: Re: Silent majority

Hi LF

Since by=20= general consent the 600m band is now wide open for experimentation of whatever computer aided mode that can be down loaded for free off the Internet. Might I suggest th= e use of SSTV. They say a picture is worth a 1000 words. I have thousands of= holiday snaps I would like to share with the world by way of a 24/7 beaconing experiment.  The result may be a bit more interesting than the shoppi= ng lists of stations worked, equipment lists and rig specifications that get churned out ad nauseam over th= e weekends.

I am not=20= sure what my afore mentioned local Amateur Radio 600m op friends would feel being only a few miles away from my QTH.

No, the a= bove suggestion is ridiculous. It does however, Einstein, Planck et al withstanding, beg t= he question; what is a suitable maximum bandwidth for the development of new modes on our British 3Kc/s 600m band?  I will start the ball rolling=20= by saying a BW no more than 50c/s. G3PLX managed with less than 32c/s BW. Sin= ce there is a QSB / QRN issue on this band then hand shaking could be introdu= ced to ensure error free data transfer a bit like X25 slow but sure yet confin= ed in a very narrow bandwidth say 50c/s max.  We need to think outside t= he box and not try to shoe horn unsuitable modes onto 600m. To evoke names li= ke Planck and co with all due respect to Alberto (who I admire immensely for=20= his great innovations with DSP, SDR, FFT processing software) I think,  i= s over the top. Nobody is into book burning and denial of spectrum to impede progress but we only have 3kc/s to play with here in the UK.  I consi= der myself a =E2=80=9Cgrunt=E2=80=9D operator not a highflying =E2=80=9CEinste= in=E2=80=9D radio spectrum quantum mechanic, but I would hope we are trying to do more with less and I don= =E2=80=99t think Olivia is the answer. Whatever modes are proposed and developed, I would expect one of the cardinal points in their specification, along with very narrow BW, to be compatibility with adjacent modes like CW and the effect on adjacent stations not running that particular mode.

In the me= an time I am hoping to improve my manual CW skills assuming there are any stations still interest= ed in that form of error correcting narrow band data transfer and are still prepared to QSO with me.

Now retre= ating into my cave with my knuckles dragging along the ground.

Vy 73 pet= efmt



--- On Mon, 5/1/09, Alberto di Bene <dibene@usa.net> wrote:

From: Alberto di Bene <dibene@usa.net>
Subject: LF: Re: Silent majority
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Monday, 5 January, 2009, 12:05 AM

=
Steve McDonald wrote:
>> There is virtu=
ally nothing new to discover or invent that has not=

already
>> taken place on MF.
> 
> There=
 you go guys. You may as well stop your 600m experiments right now as
> Mal has proclaimed that there is "nothing=
 new to discover".
Wouldn't it be
> wonderful if we could all see the future as cl=
early as he apparently does.
> What an ama=
zing gift.
> 
> VE7SL / Steve
 
This reminds me what Max Planck did write at the beginning of=
 past century.
At the turn of the 20th centur=
y scientists were absolutely certain that there
was nothing more to be discovered in theoretical physics.
Max Planck, recalling the mood of optimism and conviction at=
 that time, wrote:
 
=E2=80=9CWhen I began my physical studies [in Munich in 1874] an=
d sought advice from
my venerable teacher Phi=
llipp von Jolly... he portrayed to me physics as a<=
/pre>
highly developed almost fully matured science.... Possibly in one or a=
nother
nook there would perhaps be a dust par=
ticle or a small bubble to be examined
and cl=
assified, but the system as a whole stood there fairly secured, and
theoretical physics approached visibly that degree of=
 perfection which,
for example, geometry has=20=
had already for centuries=E2=80=9D.
&nbs=
p;
The history of physics during the 20th century=20=
did show how dumb was that
point of view...<=
o:p>
 
73 =
; Alberto  I2PHD
 
 
 
 

 

 

------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C9A294.6FA31CB0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de12.mx.aol.com (rly-de12.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.148]) by air-de04.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDE041-51a49c164e029a; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 17:17:57 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de12.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE121-51a49c164e029a; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 17:17:21 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lk38X-0003dQ-4F for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:17:17 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lk38W-0003dH-Lp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:17:16 +0000 Received: from [193.252.22.192] (helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lk38U-0001Sy-2W for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:17:16 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3624.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 5D2B57000084 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 22:16:58 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.14.71]) by mwinf3624.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 17D117000081 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 22:16:58 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20090318211658976.17D117000081@mwinf3624.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: References: <009001c9a588$7eb02c60$6401a8c0@asus> <005101c9a679$df148f50$6401a8c0@asus> <916F3329CAA846A19B450540FCC7E0AB@AGB> In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:16:57 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8064.206 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8064.206 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software QQQ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_014B_01C9A80E.DE9D0250" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_014B_01C9A80E.DE9D0250 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ok Andy , thanks for that .. G ..=20 From: Andy Talbot=20 Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:13 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software QQQ No it uses the average power over the 5 second period. You could always st= art it 1s early and stop 1s later Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/3/18 Graham Andy, Q .. If the tx is keyed by vox/breakin will the slight clipping of th= e leading edge of the beacon cause time problems ?? reason being .. if use force 'tx' will miss the beacon rx windows ?? Tnx- G ..=20 From: Andy Talbot=20 Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 4:27 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software That should have read http://www.g4jnt.com/PCBCN.zip Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/3/17 Andy Talbot Try http://www.g4jnt.com/beacons.htm and go to PCBCN at the bottom or directly =20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.16/2006 - Release Date: 03/17/09= 07:23:00 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.18/2009 - Release Date: 03/18/09 0= 7:17:00 ------=_NextPart_000_014B_01C9A80E.DE9D0250 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ok Andy , thanks for that ...
 
G ..

Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:13 PM
Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software QQQ

No it uses the average power over the 5 second period.   You=20 could always start it 1s early and stop 1s later
Andy=20  G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com

<= BR>
2009/3/18 Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
Andy,
 
Q .. If the  tx is keyed by=20 vox/breakin    will the slight  clipping of the =20 leading edge of the  beacon  cause time problems ??
reason being  .. if use force 'tx' w= ill miss=20 the  beacon rx windows ??
 
Tnx- G ..

Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 4:27 PM
Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software

That should have read http://www.g4jnt.com/PCBCN.zip

Andy  G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com


2009/3/17 Andy Talbot <andy.g4jnt@goo= glemail.com>
Try http://www.g4jnt.com/beacons.htm    and=20 go to  PCBCN at the bottom
 or directly 


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------=_NextPart_000_014B_01C9A80E.DE9D0250-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md02.mx.aol.com (rly-md02.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.140]) by air-md05.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD054-8f049c9221210a; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 14:10:58 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md02.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD028-8f049c9221210a; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 14:10:28 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LmB49-00026F-5k for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 18:09:33 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LmB48-000266-MK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 18:09:32 +0000 Received: from vms173001pub.verizon.net ([206.46.173.1]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LmB45-00046F-QE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 18:09:32 +0000 Received: from DR2 ([71.184.212.10]) by vms173001.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KH000B50VRE449X@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 13:09:15 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <49EF81B19E57446696DEAFC2EF3BCE84@DR2> From: "dave.riley3" To: Cc: "600MRG" References: Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 14:09:13 -0400 MIME-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Plug and Play is here to stay Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00A2_01C9AC8A.1C424820" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.4 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_00A2_01C9AC8A.1C424820 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable QRZ 600 Meters ( 137 kc ) ( lowfer ) ( all mode ) Home brew doesn't get any easier and all the heavy lifting has been done for= us... Here is that 50khz. to HF transverter that started out as a thought which ha= s since been updated... First a trip to the junk box and here is what happened... www.radiocom.net/600M/TxVerter2.jpg If you heard me since early 2008 then t= his is the chain I was using... It's a bit crude but it ran on the bench here and never failed in a year... Now it was time to clean things up a bit and here is what it looks like now.= .. www.radiocom.net/600M/TxVerter3.jpg There is still plenty of room inside that would have allowed construction in= a case less than 1/3rd the size... You see the green LED which means that the internal ni-cad is powering the 1= 0mhz. clock oscillator... By shutting this off the external 10mhz. LO then supplies GPS 10mhz. clock i= nput to the mixers... The internal oscillator was installed in case portable ops became possible a= nd a total drain of 35ma. assures many hours of operation, else NO power is=20= required... The only modification I made to the IC-706 was to cut the B+ to the final wh= ich then made for almost 10 milliwatts output while in transmit... Just lucky on that one I guess but it should work well from any 'transverter= ' port in a modern HF rig... I use 10 mhz. IF just to keep the numbers easy and that is what I have for a= ccurate LO availability...=20 The mixers and filters were replaced from the prototype of the first example= with Mini-Circuits ADE-6 double balanced mixers which work very well from .= 05 to 250 mhz... The Low Pass filters are Mini-Circuits LPF-BOR6 for the 600M and below versi= on... The power splitters from the IC706 RT port and the 10mhz. LO are Mini-Circui= ts ZX10-2-12... Who wants to wind coils and solder stuff @ this stage??? 73s from Lazy Dave - AA1A - WD2XSH/17 * a similar transverter worked well @ 10ghz. and also @ laser, so I guess th= e IC-706 is good from virtually DC to light... =20 ------=_NextPart_000_00A2_01C9AC8A.1C424820 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
QRZ 600 Meters ( 137 kc ) ( lowfer )  ( all= mode=20 )
 
 
Home brew doesn't get any easier and all the hea= vy=20 lifting has been done for us...
 
Here is that 50khz. to HF transverter that start= ed out=20 as a thought which has since been updated...
First a trip to the junk box and here is what=20 happened...
 
www.radiocom.net/600M/TxVerter2.jpg =20 If you heard me since early 2008 then this is the chain I was=20 using...
 
It's a bit crude but it ran on the bench here an= d=20 never failed in a year...
 
Now it was time to clean things up a bit&nb= sp;and=20 here is what it looks like now...
 
 
There is still plenty of room inside that w= ould=20 have allowed construction in a case less than 1/3rd the=20 size...
 
You see the green LED which means that the inter= nal=20 ni-cad is powering the 10mhz. clock oscillator...
By shutting this off the external 10mhz. LO= then=20 supplies GPS 10mhz. clock input to the mixers...
The internal oscillator was installed in=20 case portable ops became possible and a total drain of 35ma. assur= es=20 many hours of operation, else NO power is required...
 
The only modification I made to the IC-706 was t= o cut=20 the B+ to the final which then made for almost 10 milliwatts output whi= le=20 in transmit...
Just lucky on that one I guess but it shoul= d work=20 well from any 'transverter' port in a modern HF rig...
I use 10 mhz. IF just to keep the numbers easy a= nd=20 that is what I have for accurate LO availability... 
 
The mixers and filters were replaced from the=20 prototype of the first example with Mini-Circuits ADE-6 double balanced mixe= rs=20 which work very well from .05 to 250 mhz...
The Low Pass filters are Mini-Circuits LPF-BOR6=20= for=20 the 600M and below version...
The power splitters from the IC706 RT port = and=20 the 10mhz. LO are Mini-Circuits ZX10-2-12...
 
Who wants to wind coils and solder stuff @ this=20 stage???
 
73s from Lazy Dave - AA1A -=20 WD2XSH/17
 
 
* a similar transverter worked well @ 10ghz. and= also=20 @ laser, so I guess the IC-706 is good from virtually DC to=20 light...
 
 
 
  
 
 
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No it uses the average power over the 5 second period.=A0=A0 You could=20= always start it 1s early and stop 1s later
Andy =A0G4JNTwww.g4jnt.com


2009/3/18 Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
Andy,
=A0
Q .. If the=A0 tx is keyed by vox/break= in=A0=A0=A0 will the slight=A0 clipping of the=A0 leading edge of the=A0 bea= con=A0 cause time problems ??
reason being=A0 .. if use force 'tx= ' will miss the=A0 beacon rx windows ??
=A0
Tnx- G ..


Andy =A0G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com


2009/3/17 Andy Talbot <andy.g4jnt@googlem= ail.com>
Try http= ://www.g4jnt.com/beacons.htm=A0=A0=A0=A0and go to =A0PCBCN at the bottom=
=A0or directly=A0


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--001636c5baaf681f2004656a528d-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf09.mx.aol.com (rly-mf09.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.179]) by air-mf04.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMF041-97e49aa8e6a2fb; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 08:32:48 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf09.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF094-97e49aa8e6a2fb; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 08:32:30 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ldlll-00039L-4y for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 13:31:49 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ldllk-00039C-N3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 13:31:48 +0000 Received: from imr-m08.mx.aol.com ([64.12.138.210]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ldllj-0007Av-JV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 13:31:48 +0000 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imr-m08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id l.bc7.3a2eb240 (34967) for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 08:31:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from Black (g229168189.adsl.alicedsl.de [92.229.168.189]) by cia-da07.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILCIADA074-889749aa8e35ad; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 08:31:34 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Markus Vester" To: Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 14:31:33 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16480 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16669 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: EW6GB Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01C99A7A.6B3EDFA0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C99A7A.6B3EDFA0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0007_01C99A7A.6B3F54D0" ------=_NextPart_001_0007_01C99A7A.6B3F54D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable along with DK4U tuning up and DD7PC calling, the purple trace above looks li= ke EW6GB.=20 73 de Markus, DF6NM ------=_NextPart_001_0007_01C99A7A.6B3F54D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
along with DK4U tuning up and DD7PC=20 calling, the purple trace above looks like EW6GB.
 
73 de Markus, DF6NM
 
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h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Dz+6cW6L9KX/+/FKxhu82FG7nrDX3d/LOhV0ZvtwZjPdgabzdt0EJPQtN2Nhm1wOmh BQLr2lNamsJG+AORwXk5EDm1MG4VgWkzQh/QA4xr/u1CThJ6E2aOd2dLGaDOh1TUxW6t /dJMqzPSCba72yevc8yDAlrxqf+D4Me5RCqf0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.59.76 with SMTP id k12mr1349339bkh.136.1237150807362; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 14:00:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <00e001c9a5a7$f07216a0$6401a8c0@asus> References: <009001c9a588$7eb02c60$6401a8c0@asus> <00e001c9a5a7$f07216a0$6401a8c0@asus> Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 21:00:07 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016368e269d680efd04652e9ec0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 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The on-off sessions should be obvious from Gary's plot. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com * >* > *http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html* > > * * > --0016368e269d680efd04652e9ec0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
For various reason I'm going to have to switch the beacon off durin= g some day-time periods, but it should always be on from evening through to=20= the following morning.=A0=A0 The on-off=A0sessions should be=A0obvious from=20= Gary's plot.

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--0016368e269d680efd04652e9ec0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma01.mx.aol.com (rly-ma01.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.44]) by air-ma07.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMA071-88749b366b0396; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 01:33:29 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma01.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA011-88749b366b0396; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 01:33:21 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LgCYp-0000HT-3x for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 06:32:31 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LgCYo-0000HK-LV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 06:32:30 +0000 Received: from bay0-omc3-s39.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.239]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LgCYm-0003MQ-IN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 06:32:30 +0000 Received: from BAY105-W52 ([65.54.224.152]) by bay0-omc3-s39.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sat, 7 Mar 2009 22:32:21 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [212.4.140.33] From: Lubos OK2BVG To: Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 07:32:21 +0100 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Mar 2009 06:32:21.0823 (UTC) FILETIME=[A2EFDCF0:01C99FB7] X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_9572e0cb-3381-4dc3-97f4-12ac1a517261_" Subject: LF: XGJ X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_9572e0cb-3381-4dc3-97f4-12ac1a517261_ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_2d83a425-3bd5-4d12-9612-fa339345e4ae_" --_2d83a425-3bd5-4d12-9612-fa339345e4ae_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Warren, LF! I saw callsign "XGJ" two times. That=B4s fine, XGJ is back on LF!Thanks! 73 =20 Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS _________________________________________________________________ St=E1hn=ECte si zcela nov=FD Messenger 2009! http://download.live.com/messenger=3D --_2d83a425-3bd5-4d12-9612-fa339345e4ae_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Warren, LF!
I saw callsign "XGJ" two times. That=B4s fine, XGJ is b= ack on LF!Thanks!

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Many thanx Henny for this first contact with you.
I hope to see and call you again.
 
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(post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df07.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF074-56349aeef2d28f; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 16:14:23 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LeyPZ-0001TT-6M for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 21:13:53 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LeyPY-0001TK-Oh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 21:13:52 +0000 Received: from imo-d06.mx.aol.com ([205.188.157.38]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LeyPX-0000Rn-Sz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 21:13:52 +0000 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-d06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id l.bdb.3e30feeb (34967) for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 16:13:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from Black (g229115213.adsl.alicedsl.de [92.229.115.213]) by cia-da07.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILCIADA074-889749aeeeec1ba; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 16:13:17 -0500 Message-ID: <04DB809048FC434FBA0D4DB387E89863@Black> From: "Markus Vester" To: References: <8FA0F64CAE294E9681BFE4D22D1EB2D4@ns94d01ae4d850> In-Reply-To: <8FA0F64CAE294E9681BFE4D22D1EB2D4@ns94d01ae4d850> Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 22:13:14 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16480 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16669 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: capture 67hz.jpg Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000C_01C99D16.696ECC00" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C99D16.696ECC00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Henny, my QTH is about 400 m from a railway line, and I regularly saw their 16.667=20= Hz power frequency and several ELF harmonics. The E-fields are relatively st= rong as the lines normally do not carry a grounded top wire for lightning pr= otection. The "modulation" could be caused by some switching activity. Another origin might be a controlled rectifier on the 50 Hz mains, which cou= ld be triggered at a subharmonic frequency. Best regards, Markus, DF6NM ----- Original Message -----=20 From: henny van elst=20 To: blacksheep=20 Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 7:43 PM Subject: LF: capture 67hz.jpg Hi,Lf capture unid signal 67hz,but who ? henny pa3cpm best 73s ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C99D16.696ECC00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear Henny,
 
my QTH is about 400 m from a railway l= ine,=20 and I regularly saw their 16.667 Hz power frequency and several EL= F=20 harmonics. The E-fields are relatively strong as the lines normally do not c= arry=20 a grounded top wire for lightni= ng=20 protection. The "modulation" could be caused by some switching=20 activity.
 
Another origin might be a=20 controlled rectifier on the 50 Hz mains, which could be triggered=20 at a subharmonic frequency.
 
Best regards,
Markus, DF6NM
 
----- Original Message -----
henny van elst=20=
To: blacksheep
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 7:4= 3=20 PM
Subject: LF: capture 67hz.jpg

Hi,Lf
capture unid signal 67hz,but who ?=
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= ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C99D16.696ECC00-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc02.mx.aol.com (rly-dc02.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.31]) by air-dc05.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDC054-b0b49bee0333d5; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 19:26:57 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc02.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC027-b0b49bee0333d5; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 19:26:45 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LjMCE-0007Wh-Hq for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 23:26:14 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LjMCD-0007WY-IS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 23:26:13 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.159]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LjMCA-0002ez-Sb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 23:26:13 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3401.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 807901C00084 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 00:25:58 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.61.111]) by mwinf3401.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 929FE1C00082 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 00:25:57 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20090316232557600.929FE1C00082@mwinf3401.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <916F3329CAA846A19B450540FCC7E0AB@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <009001c9a588$7eb02c60$6401a8c0@asus> <00e001c9a5a7$f07216a0$6401a8c0@asus> <826BA6086575402A8C87062492069F5A@AGB> <004501c9a623$a4bf81d0$6401a8c0@asus> <2ED02F4327204E3C903828F9E18AA72B@AGB> <001e01c9a665$ebeac870$6401a8c0@asus> <00be01c9a66e$c8bfdbc0$0900a8c0@AM> <004a01c9a677$2a8b48a0$6401a8c0@asus> <005101c9a679$df148f50$6401a8c0@asus> In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 23:25:56 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8064.206 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8064.206 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_014F_01C9A68E.8EDFFAA0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNSAFE,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_014F_01C9A68E.8EDFFAA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Andy, Is there any way the slots could be filled using a pc ... ? if a small exe=20= could be run to make a cw pulse then that would be no problem ? G ..=20 From: Andy Talbot=20 Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 9:36 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software See you just have - got quite a shock until I realised the noise had plummet= ed as well. Any takers for the 5 and 6 minute slots? Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/3/16 Gary - G4WGT Andy, OK, I will insert an attenuator at the antenna socket (that=92s an easy mo= ve) & watch how it performs. It is switched at 10dB steps so I will start at= 10db of course. Cheers, Gary. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@black= sheep.org] On Behalf Of Andy Talbot Sent: 16 March 2009 20:45=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software Doesn't matter which - just total system gain. That S/W works best if the= noise threshold rides at about 10dB above the baseline, then it allows for= up to 70 - 80dB of signal peaks. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/3/16 Gary - G4WGT Alan, When you wrote :- my only comment is that you may have too much gain in the system. Are you meaning sound card or receiver gain? Gary. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Alan Melia Sent: 16 March 2009 19:38 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software Hi Gary my only comment is that you may have too much gain in the system.=20= It is sometimes better to have the noise further down nearer the axis. I am afraid there is a major problem with this kind of beacon, when the fading period is shorter than the sampling interval, so you dont really kn= ow what the path is doing. The only reliable points are the peaks, the trough= s dont really mean anything without some very sophisticated analysis and probably two spaced receivers. However it does give a snapshot of the band without taking up too much bandwidth (this was what was required for 5MHz too). Despite all the data collected very little analysis has actually be done on the 5MHz data collected by this program. The one succesfull bit of work was that published in Radcom by Marcis Walden G0IJZ. I used it for so= me time whilst Andy was testing the Poldhu beacon on 160m and also during the 1st two months that ran. I was certainly surprised by the daytime path on 160m from here. I have seen the data collected in Canada via Joe Craig VO1= NA and it is difficult to see how to use it. Still if you dont collect the data you will never know!! Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 6:35 PM Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software > Hi Graham, LF, > > > > The original HTML Code for the 2 minute refresh is still inserted into t= he > page format, so upload is 30 minute intervals with Syncback & 2 minute > refresh. I have left the refresh in case I revert back to the original > grabber page. I will look at changing it if I continue to use the beacon > chart upload. > > > > I would like to have feedback from the LF group regarding the page, if y= ou > check it out periodically, is it useful to you, what are you looking for= . > > > > You can view the chart on my web site at :- > > > > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html > > > > 73 > > > > Gary - G4WGT. > > > > > > _____ > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham > Sent: 16 March 2009 17:20 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > Hi Gary, > > > > The page seemed to refresh quite often ... are there two settings ? > > > > G .. > > > > From: Gary - G4WGT > > Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:40 AM > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > Hi Graham, LF, > > > > You wrote :- > > >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute > intervals. <<< that could be backed off to 15 mins as the beacon only > sends every 15 ?? > > > > I mentioned in my previous mail to ignore the text on the page as it was > originally for grabber 1 for when I upgrade the web site (to a new desig= n & > better navigation etc), also mentioned is that upload is every 30 minute= s. > > > > If the uploaded chart proves useful or interesting to operators & viewer= s > then I will change the text & make it a permanent feature for the > foreseeable future. > > > > BTW :- > > > > For those of you who are not familiar with the chart - > > > > The RED trace is Andy's (G4JNT) beacon signal & the BLACK trace is the noise > level at my QTH. > > > > The Blue & GREEN are not in use & should be ignored on this chart as the= y > are for the other beacons used when monitoring on the 5MHz allocation. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Gary - G4WGT > > > > > > _____ > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham > Sent: 15 March 2009 22:17 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > Gary.. > > > > That looks good ... 0500 looks best time for a qso .. see you then Smil= e > emoticon > > > > >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute > intervals. <<< that could be backed off to 15 mins as the beacon only > sends every 15 ?? > > > > the 15 db over the noise in day time is the same at this qth .. looks like > the big dips round 1900 where just when we where testing .. typical hi= hi > > > > tnx- G .. > > > > From: Gary - G4WGT > > Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 7:55 PM > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > Subject: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > LF, > > > > I have now got the software, Syncback running correctly (I think). > > > > The purpose of this is to upload the chart from Andy's beacon as receive= d > here to my web site periodically, ie. every 30 minutes. > > > > I now have a receiver running 24/7 monitoring Andy,s beacon on 503.7KHz. > > > > You can view the chart on my web site at :- > > > > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html > > > > For the moment ignore the text on the page as it is originally designed=20= to > use with the 500KHz grabber when I renew my web site design. If it is a > useful upload I will make it a permanent feature but may have to extend the > frequency coverage of grabber 1 so not to overload the PC with operation= s > which will cause the PC to struggle. > > > > Let me have your comments please. > > > > 73 > > > > Gary - G4WGT. > > > > _____ > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT > Sent: 15 March 2009 16:10 > To: LF -RSGB LF Group > Subject: LF: Syncback software > > > > Hi LF, > > > > If anyone is using Syncback software & can help, please. > > > > I am tying to upload a file to my website who's filename does not change= , > only the file size changes. I tried to do it with Argo-upload but failed so > I downloaded Syncback & still failing. > > > > Syncback gives me the following message :- > > > > ********************************** > > Can connect, but unable to change to destination directory: > > /chart01.bmp:not a directory > > ********************************** > > The Syncback help does not give me the answer. > > > > Any help will be appreciated > > > > Or > > > > Will Argo-Upload do it? > > > > Or > > > > Is there something else to do it? > > > > Thanks in anticipation, > > > > 73, > > > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. > > > > _____ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.13/2001 - Release Date: 03/14/= 09 > 06:54:00 > > _____ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.15/2003 - Release Date: 03/15/= 09 > 14:07:00 > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.15/2004 - Release Date: 03/16/09 0= 7:04:00 ------=_NextPart_000_014F_01C9A68E.8EDFFAA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Andy,
 
Is there any way the  slots could be f= illed=20 using a pc ... ? if a small exe could be run to  make a cw  pulse=20= then=20 that would be no problem ?
 
G ..

Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 9:36 PM
Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software

See you just have - got quite a shock until I realised the noise had=20 plummeted as well.
Any takers for the 5 and 6 minute slots?

Andy  G4JNT
= www.g4jnt.com


2009/3/16 Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>

Andy,

<= /B> 

OK,=20 I will insert an attenuator at the antenna socket (that=92s an easy move)=20= &=20 watch how it performs. It is switched at 10dB steps so I will start at 10d= b of=20 course.

<= /B> 

Cheers,<= /FONT>

<= /B> 

Gary.

<= /B> 

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:= owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Andy Talbot
Sent: 16 March 2009 20:45=20


To: rsgb_l= f_group@blacksheep.org
Subje= ct: Re: LF: RE: Syncback=20 software

 

Doesn't=20 matter which - just total system gain.  That S/W works best if the no= ise=20 threshold rides at about 10dB above the baseline,  then it allows for= up=20 to 70 - 80dB of signal peaks.

<= SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">
Andy  G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com

2009/3/16=20 Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>

Alan,

When you wrote :-

<= SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">my only comment is that you may have too=20= much gain in=20 the system.

Are you=20 meaning sound card or receiver gain?

Gary.



-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@black= sheep.org

[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Alan=20 Melia
Sent: 16 March 2009 19:38

<= SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject:=20= Re: LF: RE:=20 Syncback software

Hi Gary my only comment is that you may have too=20= much=20 gain in the system. It
is sometimes better to have the noise further do= wn=20 nearer the axis.

I am afraid there is a major problem with this kin= d of=20 beacon, when the
fading period is shorter than the sampling interval, s= o=20 you dont really know
what the path is doing. The only reliable points a= re=20 the peaks, the troughs
dont really mean anything without some very=20 sophisticated analysis and
probably two spaced receivers. However it do= es=20 give a snapshot of the band
without taking up too much bandwidth (this=20= was=20 what was required for 5MHz
too). Despite all the data collected very li= ttle=20 analysis has actually be
done on the 5MHz data collected by this progra= m.=20 The one succesfull bit of
work was that published in Radcom by Marcis=20 Walden G0IJZ. I used it for some
time whilst Andy was testing the Poldh= u=20 beacon on 160m and also during the
1st two months that ran. I was certa= inly=20 surprised by the daytime path on
160m from here. I have seen the data=20 collected in Canada via Joe Craig VO1NA
and it is difficult to see how=20= to=20 use it.

Still if you dont collect the data you will never=20 know!!

Alan G3NYK




----- Original Message=20 -----
From: "Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blackshe= ep.org>
Sent: Monday, March 16,=20 2009 6:35 PM
Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software


> Hi=20 Graham, LF,
>
>
>
> The original HTML Code for the= 2=20 minute refresh is still inserted into the
> page format, so upload i= s 30=20 minute intervals with Syncback & 2 minute
> refresh. I have left= the=20 refresh in case I revert back to the original
> grabber page. I will= =20 look at changing it if I continue to use the beacon
> chart=20 upload.
>
>
>
> I would like to have feedback from= the=20 LF group regarding the page, if you
> check it out periodically, is=20= it=20 useful to you, what are you looking for.
>
>
>
> Y= ou=20 can view the chart on my web site at :-
>
>
>
> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html
>
&= gt;
>
>=20 73
>
>
>
> Gary -=20 G4WGT.
>
>
>
>
>
>  =20 _____
>
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
&g= t; [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of=20 Graham
> Sent: 16 March 2009 17:20
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org
> Subject: Re: LF: RE:=20 Syncback software
>
>
>
> Hi=20 Gary,
>
>
>
> The page seemed to  refresh qui= te=20 often ... are there two settings ?
>
>
>
> G=20 ..
>
>
>
> From: Gary - G4WGT <mailto:g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
>
> Sent: Monday, March=20 16, 2009 10:40 AM
>
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>=
> Subject: RE:=20 LF: RE: Syncback software
>
>
>
> Hi Graham,=20 LF,
>
>
>
> You wrote :-
>
>=20 >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2=20 minute
> intervals. <<< that could be backed off to  1= 5=20 mins as the beacon only
> sends every 15=20 ??
>
>
>
> I mentioned in my previous mail to igno= re=20 the text on the page as it was
> originally for grabber 1 for when I= =20 upgrade the web site (to a new design
&
> better navigation e= tc),=20 also mentioned is that upload is every 30=20 minutes.
>
>
>
> If the uploaded chart proves usef= ul=20 or interesting to operators & viewers
> then I will change the t= ext=20 & make it a permanent feature for the
> foreseeable=20 future.
>
>
>
> BTW :-
>
>
>
= >=20 For those of you  who are not familiar with the chart=20 -
>
>
>
> The RED trace is Andy's (G4JNT) beacon=20 signal & the BLACK trace is the
noise
> level at my=20 QTH.
>
>
>
> The Blue & GREEN are not in use &= amp;=20 should be ignored on this chart as they
> are for the other beacons=20= used=20 when monitoring on the 5MHz allocation.
>
>
>
>=20 Cheers,
>
>
>
> Gary -=20 G4WGT
>
>
>
>
>
>  =20 _____
>
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
&g= t; [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of=20 Graham
> Sent: 15 March 2009 22:17
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org
> Subject: Re: LF: RE:=20 Syncback software
>
>
>
>=20 Gary..
>
>
>
> That looks good  ... 0500 look= s=20 best time for a qso .. see you then Smile
>=20 emoticon
>
>
>
> >>>Upload is set at 5 mi= nute=20 intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute
> intervals. <<< tha= t=20 could be backed off to  15 mins as the beacon only
> sends ever= y 15=20 ??
>
>
>
> the  15 db over the noise in day t= ime=20 is the  same at this qth .. looks
like
> the big dips round=20= 1900=20  where just when we where testing ..  typical=20 hihi
>
>
>
> tnx- G ...
>
>
>>=20 From: Gary - G4WGT <mailto:g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
>
> Sent: Sunday, Mar= ch=20 15, 2009 7:55 PM
>
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
><= BR>> Subject: LF:=20 RE: Syncback software
>
>
>
>=20 LF,
>
>
>
> I have now got the software, Syncback=20 running correctly (I think).
>
>
>
> The purpose o= f=20 this is to upload the chart from Andy's beacon as received
> here to= my=20 web site periodically, ie. every 30 minutes.
>
>
>
&g= t; I=20 now have a receiver running 24/7 monitoring Andy,s beacon on=20 503.7KHz.
>
>
>
> You can view the chart on my web= =20 site at :-
>
>
>
> http://myweb.tiscali.= co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html
>
>
>
>=20 For the moment ignore the text on the page as it is originally designed=20 to
> use with the 500KHz grabber when I renew my web site design. If= it=20 is a
> useful upload I will make it a permanent feature but may have= to=20 extend
the
> frequency coverage of grabber 1 so not to overload t= he=20 PC with operations
> which will cause the PC to=20 struggle.
>
>
>
> Let me have your comments=20 please.
>
>
>
> 73
>
>
>
>= =20 Gary - G4WGT.
>
>
>
>   _____
>
>= =20 From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf= _group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary -=20 G4WGT
> Sent: 15 March 2009 16:10
> To: LF -RSGB LF Group
&= gt;=20 Subject: LF: Syncback software
>
>
>
> Hi=20 LF,
>
>
>
> If anyone is using Syncback software &= amp;=20 can help, please.
>
>
>
> I am tying to upload a f= ile=20 to my website who's filename does not change,
> only the file size=20 changes. I tried to do it with Argo-upload but failed
so
> I=20 downloaded Syncback & still failing.
>
>
>
>=20 Syncback gives me the following message :-
>
>
>
>= =20 **********************************
>
> Can connect, but unable= to=20 change to destination directory:
>
> /chart01.bmp:not a=20 directory
>
> **********************************
>
&g= t;=20 The Syncback help does not give me the answer.
>
>
>
= >=20 Any help will be appreciated
>
>
>
>=20 Or
>
>
>
> Will Argo-Upload do=20 it?
>
>
>
> Or
>
>
>
> Is=20 there something else to do it?
>
>
>
> Thanks in=20 anticipation,
>
>
>
>=20 73,
>
>
>
> Gary - G4WGT -=20 IO83QP.
>
>
>
>   _____
>
>
&g= t;=20 No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> Version:= =20 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.13/2001 - Release Date: 03/14/09
>=20 06:54:00
>
>   _____
>
>
> No virus fou= nd=20 in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> Version:=20 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.15/2003 - Release Date: 03/15/09
>=20 14:07:00
>
>


 



No virus found in this incoming message.
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Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.15/2004 - Release=20 Date: 03/16/09 07:04:00
------=_NextPart_000_014F_01C9A68E.8EDFFAA0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db03.mx.aol.com (rly-db03.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.78]) by air-db08.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDB081-ab349be156a5c; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 05:01:50 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db03.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB031-ab349be156a5c; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 05:01:32 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lj8gp-00034U-DM for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 09:00:55 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lj8gp-00034L-1C for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 09:00:55 +0000 Received: from psmtp13.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.25]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lj8gm-0001zQ-GO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 09:00:54 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp13.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KGL0028RD1388@psmtp13.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 10:00:40 +0100 (MET) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 10:00:39 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <90D794D70D704743A722D0E698122332@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: DI2BO 15-03.jpg Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_os7ix+KjsdR9r+8crFAbPQ)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_os7ix+KjsdR9r+8crFAbPQ) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_+hj6RCb14j6Ub7ac4tAM2g)" --Boundary_(ID_+hj6RCb14j6Ub7ac4tAM2g) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Hi LF, Capture DI2BO, Henny pa3cpm Best 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: di2bo 15-03.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld. --Boundary_(ID_+hj6RCb14j6Ub7ac4tAM2g) Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
Hi LF,
Capture DI2BO,
Henny pa3cpm
Best 73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
di2bo 15-03.jpg

Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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Hi,Lf
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It was great. 73 Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF DI2AG / DJ2LF Test with WSPR ( beacon-mode ) on MF 505.090MHz March 1. 19:00UTC to March 2. 07:00UTC Results 13 stations reported via WSPR, 6stations reported via reflector or gave addi= tional comments. Total sum: 378 reports ODX: AA1A 6077Km ( mni tnx, Dave ) Mni tnx also to Andy, G4JNT, who went QRT with his WSPR beacon that night. Call QRB Loc Best signal at Poorest signal at Nr.=20= of reports =20 (Km) (SNR) (UTC) (SNR) (UTC) AA1A 6.077 FN42pb -24 02:00 ----------- =20= 2 DJ6LB 11 JN59mm + 8 22:44 +5 22:12 =20= 9 OR7T 481 JO20ix -4 20:02 -6 19:48 =20= 3 G4WGT 1.048 IO83qp -17 20:20 -27 20:10 =20= 7 SQ7MPJ 634 JO91rs -16 20:10 -26 20:20 =20= 22 LA3BEA 1.140 JO29og -8 01:38 -27 06:32 =20= 95 G3XVL 753 JO02nb -3 20:48 -16 20:20 =20= 20 Michael 221 JN49bf +2 18:54 -7 19:00 =20= 10 GM4ISM 1.220 IO85ar -14 23:20 -29 18:28 =20= 85 DD7PC 225 JN49ax -4 18:28 -26 20:20 =20= 6 G0KTN 973 IO81ti +0 00:02 -26 18:02 =20= 54 F4DTL 639 JN18fp -4 22:28 -21 18:02 =20= 17 G4JNT 893 IO90iv -4 20:34 -21 18:22 =20= 48 =20= -------------- =20= Total 378 Mni tnx to All =20 73 Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF 03.02.09 ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C99B4C.A4CEB600 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable DI2AG / DJ2LF

 

Dear All on 600m,

=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 here are some results of the tes= t last night. It was great.

73=A0 Walter=A0 DI2AG / DJ2LF

 

 

 

DI2AG / DJ2LF

 

Test with WSPR ( beac= on-mode ) on MF 505.090MHz

 

March 1. 19:00UTC to=20= March 2. 07:00UTC

 

Results

 

13 stations reported=20= via WSPR, 6stations reported via reflector or gave additional comments.

Total sum: 378 report= s

ODX: AA1A 6077Km ( mn= i tnx, Dave )

Mni tnx also to Andy,= G4JNT, who went QRT with his WSPR beacon that night.

 

 

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=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =A0(Km)=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0(SNR) (UTC)=A0=A0=A0 (SNR) (UTC)

 

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------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C99B4C.A4CEB600-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf10.mx.aol.com (rly-mf10.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.180]) by air-mf09.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMF092-98a49c612d1165; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 06:28:49 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf10.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF108-98a49c612d1165; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 06:28:35 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LlKqg-0001Gr-F6 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 10:24:10 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LlKqg-0001Gi-3O for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 10:24:10 +0000 Received: from imo-d20.mx.aol.com ([205.188.139.136]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LlKqd-0007tp-7L for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 10:24:10 +0000 Received: from F4DTL@aol.com by imo-d20.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id l.c23.5a4519f5 (29678) for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 06:23:59 -0400 (EDT) From: F4DTL@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 06:23:59 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5029 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Score: 1.7 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: LF: PA3CPM F4DTL Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1237717439" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 -------------------------------1237717439 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks my friend for this new contact with you. Have a nice day. F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP RX : Icom IC7400 Ant: Wellbrook LFL 1010 _http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/_ (http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/) -------------------------------1237717439 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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 -------------------------------1237717439-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf09.mx.aol.com (rly-mf09.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.179]) by air-mf04.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMF041-98149bc313e128; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 18:35:52 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf09.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF097-98149bc313e128; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 18:35:45 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LicRT-0002mg-GY for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 22:34:55 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LicRT-0002mX-46 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 22:34:55 +0000 Received: from smtprelay0055.hostedemail.com ([216.40.44.55] helo=smtprelay.hostedemail.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LicRR-000549-0j for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 22:34:55 +0000 Received: from filter.hostedemail.com (ff-bigip1 [10.5.19.254]) by smtprelay02.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 68A9C1FBE1BB for ; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 22:34:47 +0000 (UTC) X-SpamScore: 1 X-Spam-Summary: 2,0,0,d7314e92ebd740ac,49f40f4b3f783a2d,ve8rt@xplornet.com,rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org,RULES_HIT:355:379:946:973:988:989:1260:1261:1277:1311:1312:1313:1314:1345:1437:1515:1516:1518:1519:1534:1539:1593:1594:1595:1596:1711:1730:1747:1766:1792:2194:2199:2393:2559:2562:3294:3352:3636:3865:3867:3868:3869:3871:3872:3874:3876:3877:4649:5007:6114:6119:6997:7652:7903:7904:8501:9010:9108,0,RBL:none,CacheIP:none,Bayesian:0.5,0.5,0.5,Netcheck:none,DomainCache:0,MSF:not bulk,SPF:fu,MSBL:none,DNSBL:none Received: from [192.168.1.103] (xplr-ts-v10-208-114-191-189.barrettxplore.com [208.114.191.189]) (Authenticated sender: ron.t@xplornet.com) by omf03.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 22:34:45 +0000 (UTC) From: Ron Thompson To: "blacksheep" Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 16:34:37 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.4 Organization: ARS VE8RT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200903141634.37933.ve8rt@xplornet.com> X-session-marker: 726F6E2E744078706C6F726E65742E636F6D X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Getting started, maybe Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) I've been reading the occasional posting to the list, wondering if I could find some time and money to work with. As we do not yet have licences for the 500KHz band, the best place to start would be setting up for receiving. From my location is it likely that I could receive any amateur stations on 600 metres? Any recommendations for a relatively compact antenna? I do have a reasonably good receiver that covers the band, a Ten Tec SP-325 (crystal oven oscillators). -- Ron Thompson, VE8RT Yellowknife, NT, Canada 62 28.060 N 114 20.648 W Grid Square DP22tl "Who are are these that fly as a cloud, and as doves to their window?" 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Fri, 20 Mar 2009 16:43:10 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20090320154310875.D5A8E1C00081@mwinf3421.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <635EBA8E954C46899275118E6892F9F3@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <007501c9a883$81d23930$6401a8c0@asus> In-Reply-To: <007501c9a883$81d23930$6401a8c0@asus> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 15:43:10 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8064.206 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8064.206 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 503.7 Beacon - Green slot- G0NBD - running now 1345 hrs > Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0031_01C9A972.922EB430" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0031_01C9A972.922EB430 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi All=20 Running at 25 watts (to ae) 5 second pulse in -5 min Green time slot ,=20= from about 1345 hrs to day Will increase power round 2200 hrs to 150 watt and run till past midnight ,= =20 (pa may trip in which case sig will be -14 dB lower .. till reset ) last beep 0100 Hrs may be 0115 ! Tnx - G ..=20 G0NBD IO83LK ------=_NextPart_000_0031_01C9A972.922EB430 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi All
 
Running at 25 watts (to ae)  &nbs= p; 5=20 second pulse in  -5 min  Green time slot , from about 1345  h= rs=20 to day
 
Will increase power round 2200 hrs to=20= 150 watt=20 and run till  past midnight ,
 
(pa may trip in which case sig will be -14=20= dB lower=20 .. till reset )
 
last beep   0100 Hrs may be 0115 !
 
Tnx - G ..
 
G0NBD
IO83LK
------=_NextPart_000_0031_01C9A972.922EB430-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md05.mx.aol.com (rly-md05.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.143]) by air-md06.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMD061-90149bfffd31e9; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 15:54:19 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md05.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD051-90149bfffd31e9; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 15:53:57 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LjfM0-0006EK-OH for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 19:53:36 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LjfM0-0006EB-5f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 19:53:36 +0000 Received: from mail-bw0-f171.google.com ([209.85.218.171]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LjfLx-0004k8-SF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 19:53:36 +0000 Received: by bwz19 with SMTP id 19so253245bwz.4 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 12:53:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:x-goomoji-body:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=R1/CQMHn7bl9//rCDcACyXgBzCjuSEY35BD8HoNLyC8=; b=xKLbC4f7ZuOMHfkfeNyu5mLfPXUgYXhVBIMvZONl4X6zr91bHr1c2xT5R6dsfKshvK WehadrcBMJKT9A660tBx1EzcZLsiJGkksz6/7L4u4BJcfxwkPPW7nWfoKvEVlv8GocAQ TELGARHR3rLvlHs87sQEi0+gUlAYLwHG/2Ll0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:x-goomoji-body:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=FS+ZQw88Zm6BiiLWp7zSM9pcJHRCELLsVDiHUsSaX+4mjBaQj6YWStIAz9aTDypG2t Xqt32Q4dm6TgtFHdGqK+b+0BYv6Fufaf3k4S5HrlL8mR31PoNawwIcpJ/7FUPYcx+nel KzshEULTkdPCQ/w7MFOgveUo0Jju1MxgY5lZY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.118.138 with SMTP id v10mr110016bkq.182.1237319302905; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 12:48:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Goomoji-Body: true Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 19:48:22 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 2.9 (++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_04=2.88,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Who's playing on 503.7 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary=0016e6d77d9b8600c1046555d93b X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_06, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d292.1 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : fail X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --0016e6d77d9b8600c1046555d93b Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d77d9b8600be046555d93a --0016e6d77d9b8600be046555d93a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit OK, Who is it? [?] We can see you There's activity in the 5 and 6 minutes slots. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com --0016e6d77d9b8600be046555d93a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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--0016e6d77d9b8600be046555d93a-- --0016e6d77d9b8600c1046555d93b Content-Type: image/gif; name="360.gif" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 X-Attachment-Id: 360@goomoji.gmail Content-ID: <360@goomoji.gmail> R0lGODlhDAAPAKIFAJh3AP/zxAAAANyuAP/gaP///wAAAAAAACH/C05FVFNDQVBFMi4wAwEA AAAh+QQJAAAFACwAAAAADAAPAAADLVi63P6wjEmrDDjrGYj/H0cIIElwpJmeQweC4hu2BGDf nnjjrLvPLtlJUikWEgAh+QQJAAAFACwAAAAADAAPAAADLVi63M4jyllGuDjHQLr3GyF8I7GN JWpaXxu2IAvMdBfS9coReLzDpspk+HAkAAAh+QQJCgAFACwAAAAADAAPAAADLVi6vPMwlhGq vS+QzXkmQhcSWTiaJNWt3+qpQCxvnzynGmG/uUtOkWBjSCQmAAAh+QQJFAAFACwAAAAADAAP AAADLViz3BowyhWIvZcSgTmhnBd+Q4Vh2pmVBOC+lvbCpDmvpvopTV/8wKBwSCwWEgAh+QQJ CgAFACwAAAAADAAPAAADLVi6vPMwlhGqvS+QzXkmQhcSWTiaJNWt3+qpQCxvnzynGmG/uUtO kWBjSCQmAAAh+QQFAAAFACwAAAAADAAPAAADLVi63M4jyllGuDjHQLr3GyF8I7GNJWpaXxu2 IAvMdBfS9coReLzDpspk+HAkAAA7 --0016e6d77d9b8600c1046555d93b-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da02.mx.aol.com (rly-da02.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.76]) by air-da08.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDA084-a5849bfbb1432a; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 11:01:06 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da02.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA028-a5849bfbb1432a; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 11:00:37 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LjamQ-0003OA-LR for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 15:00:34 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LjamQ-0003O1-5y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 15:00:34 +0000 Received: from psmtp13.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.25]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LjamO-0002pd-BD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 15:00:34 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp13.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KGN00E5XOCQMX@psmtp13.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 16:00:26 +0100 (MET) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 16:00:23 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: XKO 17-03.jpg Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_GqJLRVM+nPw1Yk3baHe/Bw)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_GqJLRVM+nPw1Yk3baHe/Bw) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_teOlsSn/x3qfm3kDOtJR9A)" --Boundary_(ID_teOlsSn/x3qfm3kDOtJR9A) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Hi LF, capture XKO Henny pa3cpm 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: XKO 17-03.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld. --Boundary_(ID_teOlsSn/x3qfm3kDOtJR9A) Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
Hi LF,
capture XKO
Henny pa3cpm
73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
XKO 17-03.jpg

Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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autolearn=disabled,RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=1.236 Subject: LF: Re: [Lowfer] XGJ and XKO into TI3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Laurence, I kind of like this one better that I snagged from you page this morning just before sunrise :) http://w4dex.com/lf/xko_reports/XKO_KL1X_CostaRica.jpg Tnx, Dex Laurence BY3A-KL1X China wrote: > http://kl1x.com/ti3.jpg > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg04.mx.aol.com (rly-mg04.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.110]) by air-mg08.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG083-a0b49c7504c21f; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 05:03:22 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg04.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG045-a0b49c7504c21f; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 05:03:10 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Llg3b-0004kV-Up for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 09:02:55 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Llg3b-0004kM-J4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 09:02:55 +0000 Received: from bay0-omc3-s24.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.224]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Llg3W-0002Gq-Dh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 09:02:55 +0000 Received: from BAY101-W11 ([64.4.56.111]) by bay0-omc3-s24.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 23 Mar 2009 02:02:35 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [212.4.140.33] From: Lubos OK2BVG To: Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 10:02:35 +0100 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Mar 2009 09:02:35.0570 (UTC) FILETIME=[1BBEC120:01C9AB96] X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_be0323d6-d831-4cf8-b738-808692363042_" Subject: LF: XGJ X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_be0323d6-d831-4cf8-b738-808692363042_ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_3934fc92-270f-4f73-a11c-7a6fc2da5975_" --_3934fc92-270f-4f73-a11c-7a6fc2da5975_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Warren, LF! XGJ signal was good this morning. 73 Lubos, OK2BVG _________________________________________________________________ St=E1hn=ECte si zcela nov=FD Messenger 2009! http://download.live.com/messenger=3D --_3934fc92-270f-4f73-a11c-7a6fc2da5975_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Warren, LF!
XGJ signal was good this morning.
73

Lubos, O= K2BVG


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ESMTP id MAILINDC053-b0249b40d6119c; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 14:24:50 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc01.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC016-b0249b40d6119c; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 14:24:35 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LgNfh-0000QF-Ko for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 18:24:21 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LgNfg-0000Q6-It for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 18:24:20 +0000 Received: from ttsmtp-1.cpwnetworks.com ([62.24.128.242] helo=ttsmtp.cpwnetworks.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LgNfe-0000zL-UJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 18:24:20 +0000 X-Path: TalkTalk-smtp X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtkHAJeqs0lZ8Lap/2dsb2JhbACCJCyBaM5YgkeBPgY Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([89.240.182.169]) by ttsmtp.cpwnetworks.com with SMTP; 08 Mar 2009 18:23:59 +0000 Message-ID: <006101c9a01b$0d14fc10$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <0566EF6DE20B4249A3E74859BF9BA2C6@AGB> <9C03FBF153AB478A9B0DBC5580CF20D2@AGB> <28FA0F184B25444F8BA2F1EC5FC42C04@AGB> Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 18:23:59 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: AW: 503.7 Multi-function beacon ... Its working ! Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_005E_01C9A01B.0C8F7860" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_005E_01C9A01B.0C8F7860 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MF Do not forget the QRM aspect to other MF users when using PULSE transmission= s, also QRM to other services outside the amateur allocation on 500 khz G3KEV ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Beckmann, Gerhard=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 5:49 PM Subject: AW: LF: AW: 503.7 Multi-function beacon ... Its working ! Hi Graham, =20 Thank you for your statement! Well actually, especially Scattergram or equal measurement methods would b= e of interest regarding the aspect of signal path monitoring. (direct wave /= sky wave via cross correlation of pulse delay values). However, the aspect of interferences by using 500us pulses has to be taken= into consideration but may be there are coming up suitable solution by the=20= LF-group.=20 Another method of monitoring the signal path on 500 kHz could possibly per= formed by using the "PSK Sounder" software from ZL2AFP. And what I saw on a=20= first glance it should be usable for transmission and reception in order to=20= monitor the signal path situation. =20 By the way:=20 Do you know if Andy is continuing the Multi-function beaconing on 503.7 kH= z? In this case I would try long term signal monitoring by GB3RAL.exe and PSK= message decoding within the next evening sessions. =20 vy 73 de Gerhard / DK6NI =20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =20 =20 =20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacks= heep.org] Im Auftrag von Graham Gesendet: Sonntag, 8. M=E4rz 2009 15:36 An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Betreff: Re: LF: AW: 503.7 Multi-function beacon ... Its working ! =20 Hi, Grerhard, =20 Andy's post about the new beacon came out of the blue, (as is the signal= hihi), Working on this, I've simply added a page to the uk500khz news gro= up and posted links about to generate some interest and make sure the beaco= n details are known to hams and swl's out side this reflector ..=20 =20 The only thing that occurs to me is that there is a possibility for recep= tion reports to be directed to the 5 meg group , I note that the graph gen= erator by G4IRX requests your call and locator before processing the file=20= and presenting you with a plot. so I will see if anything can be done to pr= event this , the data format is of course distorted by having only one activ= e beacon.. so it will show up .. but may as yet be unexpected ...! =20 I note from previous email that the pulse aspect of the beacon is require= d for precise measurements, I think that may be possible to set up a 'experi= ment' but the aspect of interference to other users may be significant, An= dy has referred to the concept of 'phase reversal' in a continues carrier sy= stem (or medium pulse ?) that would perhaps be a acceptable mode of modulati= on, weather it could be transmitted by a 'normal' transmitter im note sure ,= but its worth noting that activities on 500, to date are not 'funded' as s= uch and time and capital out lay are part of the 'hobby' and such hardware r= equirements and software re-writes are beyond many of the active stations.=20= but perhaps as interest spreads .. things may change ..?=20 =20 Tnx-=20 =20 Graham =20 G0NBD IO83LK =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 From: Beckmann, Gerhard=20 Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 11:06 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Cc: 'Robert Hemesley'=20 Subject: LF: AW: 503.7 Multi-function beacon ... Its working ! =20 Hello Graham, Hello Andy,=20 =20 reading about your activities concerning Multi-function beacon I tried yes= terday evening to catch your signals, but unfortunately with no results copy= ing your sig. May be condx were not good enough. Moreover I had some bad ma= nmade QRM from TV and PC. =20 As Rob Hemesley told you I am active in 5-MHz-beaco- monitoring spec= ially concerning scattergram monitoring in order to analyse signal path sit= uation (direct wave / sky wave behaviour). But I am running both analysis software, GB3RAL.exe and Scattergram.= exe and it would not be any problem to modify the internal PC-clock speciall= y regarding GB3RAL.exe in order to analyse the long term signal level of you= r Multi-function beacon. So I will try to continue monitoring your Multi-fun= ction beacon hopefully that condx will be better in the next evening session= s (hi). If there will be Scattergram acties in future I certainly need some=20= more dB signal level, but it would be very interesting to investigate the si= gnal path situation. Of course, this is more interesting for those participants who are l= ocated in a distance range between 150 and 300 km in order to monitor the sl= ide crossover from direct wave to sky wave signal path.=20 However, thank you very much for implementation of your very intere= sting Multi-function beacon project and I will keep on running my monitoring= activities and will inform you in any case about further results. =20 vy 73 and a lot of success by running Multi-function beacons, I will be "o= n the qui vive" !!! =20 de Gerhard / DK6NI (JN59LN) =20 By the way:=20 Dial frequency 505.2 kHz, is that o.k.? (because GB3RAL.exe is decoding wi= th 1500 Hz too). For BPSK31-decoding I am using DigiPan Vers.2.0 =20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =20 =20 =20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacks= heep.org] Im Auftrag von Graham Gesendet: Samstag, 7. M=E4rz 2009 23:46 An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Betreff: LF: 503.7 Multi-function beacon ... Its working ! =20 So far so good .. quite a step up in signal round 2100 hrs =20 no frequency decode before then , 15 db over noise at 2130 =20 but a trend showing=20 about 1 hour slow qsb=20 =20 any other reports ? =20 G ..=20 =20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- No virus found in this incoming message. 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Do not forget the QRM aspect to other MF us= ers when=20 using PULSE transmissions, also QRM to other services outside the amate= ur=20 allocation on 500 khz
G3KEV
 
----- Original Message -----
Beckmann, Gerhard
Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 5:49=20 PM
Subject: AW: LF: AW: 503.7 Multi-fu= nction=20 beacon ... Its working !

Hi=20 Graham,

 

Thank you for your=20 statement!

Well actually,=20 especially Scattergram or equal measurement methods would be of interest=20 regarding the aspect of signal path monitoring. (direct wave / sky wave vi= a=20 cross correlation of pulse delay values).

However, the aspect=20 of interferences by using 500us pulses has to be taken into consideration=20= but=20 may be there are coming up suitable solution by the LF-group.=20

Another method of=20 monitoring the signal path on 500 kHz could possibly performed by using th= e=20 =93PSK Sounder=94 software from ZL2AFP. And what I saw on a first glance i= t should=20 be usable for transmission and reception in order to monitor the signal pa= th=20 situation.

 

By the way:=20

Do you know if Andy=20 is continuing the Multi-function beaconing on 503.7=20 kHz?

In this case I would=20 try long term signal monitoring by GB3RAL.exe and PSK message decoding wit= hin=20 the next evening sessions.

 

vy 73 de Gerhard /=20 DK6NI

 

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Von:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= ] Im Auftrag von <= /SPAN>Graham
Gesendet: Sonntag, 8. M=E4rz 2009=20 15:36
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Betreff: Re: LF: AW: 503.7 Multi= -function=20 beacon ... Its working !

 

Hi,=20 Grerhard,

 

Andy's post about the  new=20 beacon came out of the  blue, (as is the signal hihi), Working on thi= s,=20  I've simply added a page to the  uk500khz news group and posted= =20 links about to  generate some interest and make sure the=20 beacon details are known to hams and swl's out side this reflector ..= =20

 

The only thing that occurs=20 to  me is that there is a possibility for reception reports to be&nbs= p;=20 directed to the 5 meg group , I note that the  graph generator by=20 G4IRX  requests your call and locator  before processing the fil= e=20 and presenting you with a plot. so I will see if anything can be done to&n= bsp;=20 prevent this , the data format is of course distorted by having only one=20 active beacon.. so it will show up .. but may as yet be unexpected=20 ...!

 

I note from previous email that=20 the pulse aspect of the  beacon is required for precise measurements,= I=20 think that may be possible to set up a 'experiment'  but the aspect o= f=20 interference to  other users may be significant, Andy has referred to= the=20 concept of 'phase reversal' in a continues carrier system (or medium pulse= ?)=20 that would perhaps be a acceptable mode of modulation, weather it could be= =20 transmitted by a 'normal' transmitter im note sure , but its worth noting=20= that=20 activities on 500, to date  are not 'funded' as such and time and cap= ital=20 out lay are part of the 'hobby' and such hardware requirements  and=20 software re-writes are beyond many of the active stations. but perhaps as=20 interest spreads .. things may change ..?

 

Tnx-=20

 

Graham

 

G0NBD

IO83LK

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sent: Sunday,=20 March 08, 2009 11:06 AM

Subject:<= SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> LF: AW:=20 503.7 Multi-function beacon ... Its working=20 !

 

Hello Graham, Hello Andy,=20

 <= /P>

reading about your activities=20 concerning Multi-function beacon I tried yesterday evening to catch your=20 signals, but unfortunately with no results copying your sig. May be condx=20= were=20 not good enough.  Moreover I had some bad manmade QRM from TV and=20 PC.

 <= /P>

      A= s=20 Rob Hemesley told you I am active in 5-MHz-beaco- monitoring specially=20 concerning  scattergram monitoring in order to analyse signal path=20 situation (direct wave / sky wave behaviour).

      B= ut=20 I am running both analysis software, GB3RAL.exe and Scattergram.exe and it= =20 would not be any problem to modify the internal PC-clock specially regardi= ng=20 GB3RAL.exe in order to analyse the long term signal level of your=20 Multi-function beacon. So I will try to continue monitoring your=20 Multi-function beacon hopefully that condx will be better in the next even= ing=20 sessions (hi).

      I= f=20 there will be Scattergram acties in future I certainly need some more dB=20 signal level, but it would be very interesting to investigate the signal p= ath=20 situation.

      O= f=20 course, this is more interesting for those participants who are located in= a=20 distance range between 150 and 300 km in order to monitor the slide crosso= ver=20 from direct wave to sky wave signal path.

  =20     However, thank you very much for implementation of= =20 your very interesting Multi-function beacon project and I will keep on run= ning=20 my monitoring activities and will inform you in any case about further=20 results.

 <= /P>

vy 73 and a lot of success by=20 running Multi-function beacons, I will be =93on the qui vive=94=20 !!!

 <= /P>

de Gerhard  / =20 DK6NI  (JN59LN)

 <= /P>

By the way:=20

Dial frequency 505.2 kHz, is tha= t=20 o.k.? (because GB3RAL.exe is decoding with 1500 Hz=20 too).

For BPSK31-decoding I am using=20 DigiPan Vers.2.0

 <= /P>

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Von:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= ] Im Auftrag von <= /SPAN>Graham
Gesendet: Samstag, 7. M=E4rz 2009=20 23:46
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Betreff: LF: 503.7 Multi-functio= n beacon=20 ... Its working !

 

So far so good .. quite a step up=20 in signal round 2100 hrs 

no frequency decode before then ,=20 15 db over noise at 2130

 

but a trend showing=20

about  1 hour slow qsb=20

 

any other reports=20 ?

 

G ..=20

 


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rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma05.mx.aol.com (rly-ma05.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.49]) by air-ma09.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMA091-8ab49aaf93115b; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 16:08:03 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma05.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA055-8ab49aaf93115b; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 16:08:02 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ldst2-0000Th-HX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 21:07:48 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ldst2-0000TY-3a for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 21:07:48 +0000 Received: from mta21.charter.net ([216.33.127.81]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ldst0-000528-RY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 21:07:48 +0000 Received: from imp09 ([10.20.200.9]) by mta21.charter.net (InterMail vM.7.09.01.00 201-2219-108-20080618) with ESMTP id <20090301210720.XHEZ7559.mta21.charter.net@imp09>; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 16:07:20 -0500 Received: from [192.168.0.2] ([68.116.200.100]) by imp09 with charter.net id Mx7L1b00P2AU2w405x7LSt; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 16:07:20 -0500 Message-ID: <49AAF908.7040906@charter.net> Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 16:07:20 -0500 From: John Andrews User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, 600MRG X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: WE2XGR/3 WSPR tonight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) I will run a WSPR beacon on 508.500 kHz tonight from 2330 to 0300 UTC. That's a dial frequency of 507.000 kHz. Reports are welcome. John Andrews, WE2XGR/3 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg08.mx.aol.com (rly-dg08.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.92]) by air-dg08.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDG083-5e249c76b84360; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 06:59:24 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg08.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG081-5e249c76b84360; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 06:59:18 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Llhro-0005yE-Pq for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 10:58:52 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Llhro-0005y5-8U for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 10:58:52 +0000 Received: from mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.48]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Llhrn-0002JR-Ft for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 10:58:52 +0000 Received: from aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20090323105845.YMCG4080.mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 10:58:45 +0000 Received: from [192.168.2.33] (really [82.22.242.113]) by aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vG.2.02.00.01 201-2161-120-102-20060912) with ESMTP id <20090323105845.MTMM13254.aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@[192.168.2.33]> for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 10:58:45 +0000 From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 10:58:04 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <49C76B3C.7933.6BFBAD@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=9YlaCzn6_68A:10 a=nZnuQnCPJVceM0NBKQcA:9 a=4cWN17F8kN_mjO45nHtXb3lHIVoA:4 a=10sAvMsTeQkA:10 a=gmBXsakOPyV2O1YJ9SEA:9 a=MdMqCQolhZec9jNJ9i0A:7 a=coKIHIswEg73Tz1xr4SKZL4U7L8A:4 a=XF7b4UCPwd8A:10 a=PZ4txq_IQ5slJDd2sIIA:9 a=-gVXbXPLEONRXfXyskqg_sx_nHMA:4 a=bC4pTEGzVWIA:10 a=KQqxNPgzF0kA:10 a=lJtZseMHP14DZTIK:18 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Content-type: Multipart/Mixed; boundary=Message-Boundary-22061 Subject: LF: XGJ - excellent X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Message-Boundary-22061 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Content-Description: Mail message body Very good reception of WD2XGJ on 137kHz last night. The callsign was readable from 2352-0032, then nil until 0234 when it was solid to 0613. Attached is the call starting at 0452 and is one of the best transatlantic signals I have ever seen - there's even a small amount of 'dog boning'.. Mike, G3XDV ========== --Message-Boundary-22061 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Description: Attachment information. The following section of this message contains a file attachment prepared for transmission using the Internet MIME message format. If you are using Pegasus Mail, or any other MIME-compliant system, you should be able to save it or view it from within your mailer. If you cannot, please ask your system administrator for assistance. ---- File information ----------- File: XGJ-0452-20090323-lo.jpg Date: 23 Mar 2009, 10:55 Size: 3692 bytes. 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1LmZTI-0002WI-G8 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 20:13:08 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LmZTI-0002W9-3r for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 20:13:08 +0000 Received: from ttsmtp-3.cpwnetworks.com ([62.24.128.244] helo=ttsmtp.cpwnetworks.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LmZTG-0004S8-7a for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 20:13:08 +0000 X-Path: TalkTalk-smtp X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AkkGAHQtyklOlssd/2dsb2JhbACCKCuBbIccBsc+g3UG Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.150.203.29]) by ttsmtp.cpwnetworks.com with SMTP; 25 Mar 2009 20:13:00 +0000 Message-ID: <040101c9ad86$187fee70$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 20:12:59 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: KU4XR Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_03FE_01C9AD86.17EE83E0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_03FE_01C9AD86.17EE83E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Andy Are u currently in RX mode on 500 khz Active on QRS 3 tonite 502.57khz=20 De mal/g3kev ------=_NextPart_000_03FE_01C9AD86.17EE83E0 Content-Type: text/html; 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    Hi Andy
Are u currently in RX mode on 500 khz
Active on QRS 3 tonite 502.57khz
De mal/g3kev
 
------=_NextPart_000_03FE_01C9AD86.17EE83E0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg02.mx.aol.com (rly-mg02.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.108]) by air-mg06.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG064-9f749d2837c389; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 16:56:55 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg02.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG021-9f749d2837c389; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 16:56:32 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lokz9-0002kG-Tb for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 21:55:03 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lokz9-0002k7-H2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 21:55:03 +0100 Received: from [193.252.22.191] (helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lokz6-0002vO-AF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 21:55:03 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3611.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id CA52F7000086 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 22:54:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.2.250]) by mwinf3611.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 8C9D9700008A for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 22:54:42 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20090331205442576.8C9D9700008A@mwinf3611.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <6F1E1DECC22A42CFBB0797E7EB718EF4@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 21:54:41 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8064.206 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8064.206 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Beacons Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_010E_01C9B24B.4BB2F340" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_010E_01C9B24B.4BB2F340 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RiK ON7YD Is running in the -6 min time slot , showing at=20 http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html G ..=20 From: dave.riley3=20 Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 9:07 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: LF: Beacons Any 600M beacons or sigs from EU tonight?? TNX Dave @ WD2XSH/17 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.5.285 / Virus Database: 270.11.35/2033 - Release Date: 03/31/09 1= 3:05:00 ------=_NextPart_000_010E_01C9B24B.4BB2F340 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
RiK  ON7YD
 
Is running in the  -6 min time slot&nb= sp; ,=20 showing at
 
 
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Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 9:07 PM
Subject: LF: Beacons

Any 600M beacons or sigs from EU=20 tonight??
 
 
TNX
 
Dave @ WD2XSH/17
 
 


No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 8.5.285 / Virus Da= tabase:=20 270.11.35/2033 - Release Date: 03/31/09 13:05:00
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charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Subject: AW: LF: DD7PC SIGNAL.jpg X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) SGVsbG8gSGVubnksDQpNYW55IHRoYW5rcyBmb3IgZWFzeSBRUlNTMyBRU08gKHdhcyBqdXN0 IG15IG51bWJlciA4IG9uIDEzNy43KS4NCkkgc2VuZCBhIGNhcHR1cmUgb2YgeW91ciBzaWdu YWwgdGhpcyBldmVuaW5nLg0KUGxlYXNlIGNhbiBJIHNlbmQgbXkgUVNMIGNhcmQgZGlyZWN0 PyBJIHB1dCBpbiBhbiBlbnZlbG9wZSB3aXRoIGEgc3RhbXAgZm9yIHlvdXIgcmV0dXJuLg0K DQp2eTczDQpNYXJjbw0KREQ3UEMgKGluIEpONDlheCkNCg0KDQotLS0tLSBPcmlnaW5hbG5h Y2hyaWNodCAtLS0tLQ0KVm9uOiBvd25lci1yc2diX2xmX2dyb3VwQGJsYWNrc2hlZXAub3Jn IDxvd25lci1yc2diX2xmX2dyb3VwQGJsYWNrc2hlZXAub3JnPg0KQW46IGJsYWNrc2hlZXAg PHJzZ2JfbGZfZ3JvdXBAYmxhY2tzaGVlcC5vcmc+DQpHZXNlbmRldDogVGh1IE1hciAyNiAw ODo1ODowOCAyMDA5DQpCZXRyZWZmOiBMRjogREQ3UEMgU0lHTkFMLmpwZw0KDQp0aGUgY2Fw dHVyZSBtYXJjbw0KaGVubnkgY3BtDQoNCg== From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf07.mx.aol.com (rly-mf07.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.177]) by air-mf07.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMF072-96e49b251ae2cb; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 05:51:39 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf07.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF074-96e49b251ae2cb; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 05:51:29 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lfu7F-0002ba-Gn for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 10:50:49 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lfu7F-0002bR-4q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 10:50:49 +0000 Received: from fwx.uvtc.net ([195.22.25.2] helo=uvtcmail.se) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lfu7D-0002pS-4R for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 10:50:49 +0000 Received: from radiorummet ([87.227.51.55]) by uvtcmail.se with MailEnable ESMTP; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 10:50:39 +0000 Message-ID: <1DF611251F48450DB34200591E4F2D0D@radiorummet> From: "Gus" To: References: In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 11:50:38 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 X-ME-Bayesian: 0.000000 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Looking for HF to LF-Transverter, ... ? Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Marco, there is a very easy and good way to build a transmitting converter or transverter. For the mixer you have to use 8 diodes and 5 transformer, 1n4148 do the job. A filter and a simple amplifire and you are in the air. I build this type and use it now, i have test all mode like AM,SSB,CW WSPR with great sucess in a range of 10-900 kHz with an ICOM tranceiver. If you are interested or any else, i have made a design and pcb-board. 73 de Gus SM6BHZ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scholz, Marco " To: Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 9:55 PM Subject: LF: Looking for HF to LF-Transverter, ... ? Dear LF-Group, sorry for bandwidth, i looking for some sort of of mixer/transverter to use a shortwave transceiver on 137KHz for WSPR. Can be in experimental stage, but i need something to start. To build something from scratch is a bit a challenge for me, so i thought i ask around. Maybe someone has to sell some parts? If yes, please send me a mail to dd7pc@gmx.de Many thanks, vy73 Marco DD7PC From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh10.mx.aol.com (rly-mh10.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.146]) by air-mh01.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMH014-bfd49c72173149; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 01:43:28 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh10.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH105-bfd49c72173149; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 01:43:18 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Llcva-0002ra-Rj for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 05:42:26 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Llcva-0002rR-6b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 05:42:26 +0000 Received: from smtp08.online.nl ([194.134.42.53]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LlcvY-0007ma-70 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 05:42:26 +0000 Received: from smtp08.online.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp08.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 804B66672A for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 06:42:22 +0100 (CET) Received: from pa3fnytrqxpddu (s5593e077.adsl.wanadoo.nl [85.147.224.119]) by smtp08.online.nl (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 06:42:22 +0100 (CET) From: To: "blacksheep" Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 06:42:21 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Importance: Normal X-Online-Scanned: by Cloudmark authority (on smtp08.online.nl) X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: xgj Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01C9AB82.84679990" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, 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------=_NextPart_000_0019_01C99DC3.12FB6A60-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd03.mx.aol.com (rly-dd03.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.150]) by air-dd06.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDD063-b6d49bbb2e37e; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 09:37:04 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd03.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD037-b6d49bbb2e37e; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 09:36:37 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LiU2K-0000of-0n for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 13:36:24 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LiU2J-0000oW-2c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 13:36:23 +0000 Received: from mail-fx0-f174.google.com ([209.85.220.174]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LiU2H-0000wa-Ci for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 13:36:23 +0000 Received: by fxm22 with SMTP id 22so3060023fxm.4 for ; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 06:36:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=n/TBZeGDGqko7ElRhTLul306ZWhcQn7rIMfh/5GIZMM=; b=TrNKVVDYMh0vxrOVednJeNEaw87i3th/UwoVPE6TqniSye8pbwVtcMt/ZlHQ/EQoEp 8LY5h6SdA4tM5S7kBybBHTPFoR57eKAI+RF1WKIyMG4/GtU+9ZCdDAroXBRmcXTEUj8c 3bQVCD+zvUEi4fqn7NZx63tp5ugTb42deymm4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=McMpFc2E5zjsSn/Hb41KkUEtdktHpEgy/OA4PQgD0un3Ku+gIxmB9Z/zzQS7kgC7Bf 8GrpuNU4p5DaGk/JnnGFoMgsPzCGwNMaTKQ2Vw8Lbv/+grv3cvD6Qttt8zfEaLNSUCQb NlukPn+CvCheyRgjiAPfcVcvfK13ZT9xnZyik= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.76.129 with SMTP id c1mr783709bkk.9.1237037775420; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 06:36:15 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5467B2F044F54A7980C65F62409256D3@AGB> References: <5467B2F044F54A7980C65F62409256D3@AGB> Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 13:36:15 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: Multi-function beacon Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636458d302d7e7b0465144d99 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d234.2 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --001636458d302d7e7b0465144d99 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit That listing was 5.29MHz to prove the S/W - it shows the power and tone frequencies of all three - RAL/WES/ORK on the TA path. Don't forget to offset the time :-) Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/3/14 Graham > Dave, >>> *Sample of 5290kc. over last night.<<<* > ** > *Is this from 5290 or 503.7 ....... ??* > ** > *Graham .. * > > > > *From:* dave.riley3 > *Sent:* Saturday, March 14, 2009 12:08 PM > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > *Cc:* 600MRG > *Subject:* LF: Re: Re: Multi-function beacon > > *Andy, beacons,* > ** > *Looks like the beacon program is up and running correctly as 5 mhz shows > relative sigs and frequency counts.* > ** > *Last night conditions here were very poor for T/A on 600m, even with this > broad high pressure area that helped keep the noise down. Even DI2AM was > very weak and SM6BHZ did not decode.* > ** > *So I will run it again on you tonight, but I did see remnanats of what > looks like a letter K during the beacon transmission times from you ( in > ARGO QRSS3 )...* > ** > ** > *Sample of 5290kc. over last night.* > ** > *2009 03 14 03 00 47.51 39.97 36.06 23.91 0.00 1495.70 1494.14 0.00 > 2009 03 14 03 15 34.12 37.03 31.32 23.36 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 > 2009 03 14 03 30 33.87 30.14 35.05 29.91 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 > 2009 03 14 03 45 30.91 26.89 26.38 23.12 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 > 2009 03 14 04 00 32.25 44.39 25.68 24.24 0.00 0.00 1494.14 0.00 > 2009 03 14 04 15 40.13 39.54 35.79 24.24 0.00 1495.51 1494.14 0.00 > 2009 03 14 04 30 44.71 42.47 29.35 30.72 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 > 2009 03 14 04 45 33.16 37.11 35.32 23.03 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 > 2009 03 14 05 00 48.07 46.44 34.46 25.30 0.00 1495.90 1494.14 0.00 > 2009 03 14 05 15 43.12 47.39 30.40 23.83 0.00 1495.70 1494.14 0.00 > 2009 03 14 05 30 48.13 31.83 37.48 26.50 0.00 1495.70 0.00 0.00 > 2009 03 14 05 45 47.11 42.90 37.04 22.88 0.00 1495.90 1494.34 0.00 > 2009 03 14 06 00 28.69 30.99 30.46 23.66 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 > 2009 03 14 06 15 41.04 31.09 29.58 23.29 0.00 1495.90 0.00 0.00* > ** > *The 'red' station usually seems the strongest on the graph...* > ** > *TNX* > ** > *Dave @ /17* > ** > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Andy Talbot > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org ; uk_beacons@yahoogroups.com > *Sent:* Friday, March 13, 2009 5:57 AM > *Subject:* LF: Re: Multi-function beacon > > Just a reminder to all - this beacon is still going, and will probably > continue to do so until further notice. A few listeners have downloaded > the software, and thanks to all (you know who your are :-) for the plots / > listings. I am not in a position to compile them, so don't expect > revelations, but Gerhard / DK6NI has been monitoring pretty > well continuously, and has plotted some deep fades / enhancements measured > over hours with depths in the regions of 30dB. > > Are there any stations in the US in a position to monitor ? > > Please note that if using the recommended 5meg beacon monitoring software > you'll either have to set the delta time to -240 (or -180 or -120) seconds > or adjust the PC clock by two, three or four minutes to cope with the four > minute offset I'm running it on. > > Andy G4JNT > www.g4jnt.com > > > 2009/3/6 Andy Talbot > >> I've now started transmitting a timed beacon signal on 503.7kHz that >> is identical in format to that of GB3SSS operated over the winter months of >> the last two years from Poldhu on 1.9 and 3.5MHz, and has a similar signal >> structure to the 5MHz beacons, GB3RAL, WES and ORK. These all have an >> initial CW ident and stepped power levels for aural reception, and a >> precisely defined period of full-power plain carrier for S/N measurements. >> See http://www.rsgb-spectrumforum.org.uk/5mhz%20beacons.htm for the >> complete 5MHz signal structure. For this MF transmission, as on GB3SSS, >> the pulsed sounder sequence of the 5MHz beacons is replaced with a PSK31 >> message which lasts from 30s to approx 48 seconds after the start >> >> Auto Monitoring software writen by G3PLX is available for monitoring >> these beacons, it measures signal to noise during the carrier period and >> saves to file as well as plotting the last 40 hours worth of measurements. >> The software can be downloaded from >> http://www.rsgb.org/spectrumforum/hf/beaconauto.php . PSK31 data can be >> copied with Digipan, Fldigi, PSK31SBW or a host of other packages. >> >> *TIMING * >> The 503.7kHz transmission takes place every 15 minutes at 4 minutes past >> the quarter hour. >> ie each transmission starts at *xx:04, xx:19, xx:34 and xx:49 * This >> time slot has been selected so that the transmission do not interfere with >> my continuous ongoing reception of the 5Mhz beacons - the active antenna >> used for these is overloaded by the 500kHz signal and I have already lost >> data when the WSPR beacon transmission coincided with one of the monitoring >> windows. >> >> NOTE If using the G3PLX software, this only monitors for the three 5MHz >> beacons at 00, 01 and 02 minutes. >> *SO IT WILL BE NECESSARY TO FRIG THE SOFTWARE * to monitor >> this transmission at the 04 minute point. The necessary alteration can be >> done by firstly setting your PC clock accurately to the correct time, then >> setting the Track Time box to -240 (minus 240 seconds). This will make the >> software look for this transmission during the time window it thinks it >> would be receiving GB3RAL, and log the MF transmission during the first >> minute, on the red trace, as if it were GB3RAL >> >> The beacon uses the identical hardware to the WSPR transmissions of the >> last few weeks, with the the only change being a reprogramming of the >> controller PIC. In fact the very same hardware was previously loaned to >> the Poldhu club for their beacons, with the only difference being a change >> to the final Low Pass filter on the output of the broadband PA. >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.13/2001 - Release Date: 03/13/09 > 05:59:00 > > --001636458d302d7e7b0465144d99 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
That listing was 5.29MHz to prove the S/W - it shows the power and tone= frequencies of all three - RAL/WES/ORK on the TA path.
=A0
Don't forget to offset the time :-)

Andy =A0G4JNT
www= .g4jnt.com


2009/3/14 Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
Dave, >>> Sample of 5290kc. over last night.<<<
=A0
Is this=A0 from 5290=A0 or=A0 503.7 ....... ??=
=A0
Graham ..
=A0
=A0

Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 12:08 PM
Cc: 600MRG
Subject: LF: Re: Re: Multi-function beacon

Andy, beacons,
=A0
Looks like the beacon program is up and runnin= g correctly as 5 mhz shows relative sigs and frequency counts.
=A0
Last night conditions here were very poor for=20= T/A on 600m, even with this broad high pressure area that helped keep the no= ise down. Even DI2AM was very weak and SM6BHZ did not decode.
=A0
So I will run it again on you tonight, but I d= id see remnanats of what looks like a letter K during the beacon transmissio= n times from you ( in ARGO QRSS3 )...
=A0
=A0
Sample of 5290kc. over last night.
=A0
2009 03 14 03 00 47.51 39.97 36.06 23.91 0.00=20= 1495.70 1494.14 0.00
2009 03 14 03 15 34.12 37.03 31.32 23.36 0.00 0.00 0= .00 0.00
2009 03 14 03 30 33.87 30.14 35.05 29.91 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
2009 03 14 03 45 30.91 26.89 26.38 23.12 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
2009 03 14 0= 4 00 32.25 44.39 25.68 24.24 0.00 0.00 1494.14 0.00
2009 03 14 04 15 40..= 13 39.54 35.79 24.24 0.00 1495.51 1494.14 0.00
2009 03 14 04 30 44.71 42.= 47 29.35 30.72 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
2009 03 14 04 45 33.16 37.11 35.32 23.03 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
2009 03 14 0= 5 00 48.07 46.44 34.46 25.30 0.00 1495.90 1494.14 0.00
2009 03 14 05 15 4= 3.12 47.39 30.40 23.83 0.00 1495.70 1494.14 0.00
2009 03 14 05 30 48.13 3= 1.83 37.48 26.50 0.00 1495.70 0.00 0.00
2009 03 14 05 45 47.11 42.90 37.04 22.88 0.00 1495.90 1494.34 0.00
2009 0= 3 14 06 00 28.69 30.99 30.46 23.66 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
2009 03 14 06 15 4= 1.04 31.09 29.58 23.29 0.00 1495.90 0.00 0.00
=A0
The 'red' station usually seems the st= rongest on the graph...
=A0
TNX
=A0
Dave @ /17
=A0
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 5:57 AM<= /div>
Subject: LF: Re: Multi-function beaco= n

Just a reminder to all - this beacon is still going, and will probably=20= continue to do so until further notice.=A0=A0 A few listeners have downloade= d the software, and thanks to all (you know who your are :-) for the plots /= listings.=A0=A0 I am not in a position to compile them, so don't expect= revelations, but Gerhard=A0 /=A0 DK6NI has been monitoring pretty well=A0co= ntinuously, and has plotted some=A0deep fades / enhancements measured over h= ours with depths in the regions of 30dB.
=A0
Are there any stations in the US in a position to monitor ?=A0=A0
=A0
Please note that if using the recommended 5meg beacon monitoring softwa= re you'll either have to set the delta time to -240 (or -180 or -120) se= conds or adjust the PC clock by two, three or four minutes to cope with the=20= four minute offset I'm running it on.
=A0
Andy =A0G4JNT
2009/3/6 Andy Talbot <andy.g4jnt@googlema= il.com>
I've now=A0started transmitting a timed=A0 beacon signal on 503.7kH= z that is=A0identical in format to that of GB3SSS operated over the winter m= onths of the last two years=A0=A0from Poldhu on 1.9 and 3.5MHz, =A0and has= =A0a similar signal structure to the 5MHz beacons, GB3RAL, WES and ORK.=A0 T= hese all have=A0an initial CW ident and=A0stepped power levels for aural rec= eption,=A0and a precisely defined period of full-power plain carrier for S/N= measurements.=A0=A0
See=A0 =A0http://www.rsgb-spectrumforum.org.uk/5mhz%20beacons= .htm=A0 for the complete 5MHz =A0signal structure.=A0=A0For this MF tran= smission, as on GB3SSS, the pulsed sounder sequence of the 5MHz beacons is r= eplaced with a PSK31 message which lasts from=A030s to approx 48 seconds aft= er the start
=A0
Auto Monitoring software writen by G3PLX is available for monitoring th= ese beacons, it measures signal to noise during the carrier period and saves= to file as well as plotting the last 40 hours worth of measurements.
The software can be downloaded from=A0 http://www.rsgb.org/spectr= umforum/hf/beaconauto.php=A0.=A0=A0 PSK31 data can be copied with Digipa= n, Fldigi, PSK31SBW or a host of other packages.
=A0
TIMING
The 503.7kHz transmission takes place every 15 minutes at 4 minutes pas= t the quarter hour.=A0
ie=A0each transmission starts at xx:04, xx:19, xx:34 and xx:49= =A0=A0=A0=A0This time slot has been selected so that the transmissi= on do not interfere with my continuous ongoing reception of the 5Mhz beacons= - the active antenna used for these is overloaded by the 500kHz signal and=20= I have already lost data when the WSPR beacon transmission coincided with on= e of the monitoring windows.
=A0
NOTE=A0=A0 If using the=A0G3PLX software, this only=A0monitors for the=20= three 5MHz beacons at =A000, 01 and 02 minutes.
SO IT WILL BE NECESSARY=A0TO FRIG=A0THE SOFTWARE =A0to= monitor this=A0transmission at the 04 minute point.=A0=A0=A0The necessary a= lteration can be done by firstly setting=A0your PC clock accurately to the c= orrect time, then setting the Track Time box to -240 (minus 240 seconds)..= =A0 This will make the software look for this transmission during the time= =A0window it thinks it would be receiving GB3RAL, and log the=A0MF transmiss= ion during the first minute, on the red trace, as if it were GB3RAL=A0
=A0
The beacon uses the identical hardware to the=A0WSPR transmissions of= =A0the last few weeks, with the the only change being a=A0reprogramming of t= he controller PIC.=A0=A0 In fact the very same hardware was previously loane= d to the Poldhu club for their beacons, with the only difference being a cha= nge to the final Low Pass filter on the output of the broadband PA.
=A0


No virus found in this incoming message.
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--001636458d302d7e7b0465144d99-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da06.mx.aol.com (rly-da06.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.80]) by air-da04.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDA044-a7749abfe94151; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 10:43:41 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da06.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA067-a7749abfe94151; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 10:43:19 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LeAI5-0003di-Gy for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 15:42:49 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LeAI4-0003dZ-V9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 15:42:48 +0000 Received: from vms173007pub.verizon.net ([206.46.173.7]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LeAI3-0006b9-5H for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 15:42:48 +0000 Received: from DR2 ([71.184.212.10]) by vms173007.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KFV005JAYAMQ5SF@vms173007.mailsrvcs.net> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 09:42:24 -0600 (CST) Message-id: <19A578917E70491491C2F436D978EC77@DR2> From: "dave.riley3" To: References: <000701c99b44$838ac180$1402a8c0@e7010> Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 10:42:23 -0500 MIME-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: WSPR-Versuch MW.doc Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0129_01C99B23.91EBF350" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.7 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_70_80, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0129_01C99B23.91EBF350 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable DI2AG / DJ2LFHi Walter, I would have copied and decoded you many times but after QSL of the first tw= o, I shifted to WE2XVY ( 508 ) frequency who is much closer in Arizona, but=20= nil sigs all night... BTW, allowing for QSB you were -6 db from DI2AM... TNX for good sigs, Dave ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Walter und Marianne Staubach=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 9:36 AM Subject: LF: WSPR-Versuch MW.doc =20 Dear All on 600m, here are some results of the test last night. It was great. 73 Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF =20 =20 =20 DI2AG / DJ2LF =20 Test with WSPR ( beacon-mode ) on MF 505.090MHz =20 March 1. 19:00UTC to March 2. 07:00UTC =20 Results =20 13 stations reported via WSPR, 6stations reported via reflector or gave ad= ditional comments. Total sum: 378 reports ODX: AA1A 6077Km ( mni tnx, Dave ) Mni tnx also to Andy, G4JNT, who went QRT with his WSPR beacon that night. =20 =20 Call QRB Loc Best signal at Poorest signal at Nr= . of reports =20 (Km) (SNR) (UTC) (SNR) (UTC) =20 AA1A 6.077 FN42pb -24 02:00 ----------- =20= 2 DJ6LB 11 JN59mm + 8 22:44 +5 22:12 =20= 9 OR7T 481 JO20ix -4 20:02 -6 19:48 =20= 3 G4WGT 1.048 IO83qp -17 20:20 -27 20:10 =20= 7 SQ7MPJ 634 JO91rs -16 20:10 -26 20:20 =20= 22 LA3BEA 1.140 JO29og -8 01:38 -27 06:32 =20= 95 G3XVL 753 JO02nb -3 20:48 -16 20:20 =20= 20 Michael 221 JN49bf +2 18:54 -7 19:00 =20= 10 GM4ISM 1.220 IO85ar -14 23:20 -29 18:28 =20= 85 DD7PC 225 JN49ax -4 18:28 -26 20:20 =20= 6 G0KTN 973 IO81ti +0 00:02 -26 18:02 =20= 54 F4DTL 639 JN18fp -4 22:28 -21 18:02 =20= 17 G4JNT 893 IO90iv -4 20:34 -21 18:22 =20= 48 =20= -------------- =20= Total 378 =20 Mni tnx to All =20 73 Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF 03.02.09 =20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0129_01C99B23.91EBF350 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable DI2AG / DJ2LF
Hi Walter,
 
I would have copied and decoded you many times b= ut=20 after QSL of the first two, I shifted to WE2XVY ( 508 ) frequency who is muc= h=20 closer in Arizona, but nil sigs all night...
 
BTW, allowing for QSB you were -6 db from=20 DI2AM...
 
TNX for good sigs,
 
Dave
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 9:36=20 AM
Subject: LF: WSPR-Versuch MW.doc

 

Dear All on=20 600m,

        =20 here are some results of the test last night. It was=20 great.

73  Walter  DI2AG /=20 DJ2LF

 <= /o:p>

 <= /o:p>

 <= /o:p>

DI2AG=20 / DJ2LF

 <= /o:p>

Test with WS= PR ( beacon-mode=20 ) on MF 505.090MHz

 <= /o:p>

March 1. 19:= 00UTC to March=20 2. 07:00UTC

 <= /o:p>

Results

 <= /o:p>

13 stations=20= reported via=20 WSPR, 6stations reported via reflector or gave additional=20 comments.

Total sum: 3= 78=20 reports

ODX: AA1A 60= 77Km ( mni tnx,=20 Dave )

Mni tnx also= to Andy, G4JNT,=20 who went QRT with his WSPR beacon that night.

 <= /o:p>

 <= /o:p>

Call         QRB   &n= bsp;  Loc       Best signal at   &= nbsp; Poorest signal at&nbs= p;   Nr. of reports&nb= sp;            &= nbsp;=20

        &nb= sp;    =20  (Km)         = ;    =20      =  (SNR)=20 (UTC)    (SNR)=20 (UTC)

 <= /o:p>

AA1A      6.077  FN42pb    -24  02:00&nbs= p;        =20 -----------   &= nbsp;            = ;       =20   2

DJ6LB       &nbs= p; =20 11  JN59mm   + 8  22:44 &nbs= p;      = ;   +5  22:12          &nb= sp;            &= nbsp;=20 9

OR7T        = ; =20 481  JO20ix      &nb= sp; -4  20:02       = ;   =20 -6  19:48        &nb= sp;            &= nbsp;=20   3

G4WGT   1.048   IO83qp     -17  20:20        =20 -27  20:10        &n= bsp;            =    =20 7

SQ7MPJ     634 = ;  JO91rs   =    -16  20= :10      =    =20 -26  20:20        &n= bsp;            =  =20 22

LA3BEA  1.140  JO29og &n= bsp;     -8&= nbsp; 01:38   &nb= sp;     =20 -27  06:32        &n= bsp;            =  =20 95

G3XVL      &nb= sp;753  JO02nb       -= 3  20:48         =20 -16  20:20        &n= bsp;            =  =20 20

Michael      &= nbsp;221  JN49bf       +2  18:54         = ;  =20 -7  19:00        &nb= sp;            &= nbsp;=20 10

GM4ISM  1.220  IO85ar &n= bsp;    -14 = 23:20    &n= bsp;    =20 -29  18:28        &n= bsp;            =  =20 85

DD7PC      &nb= sp;225   JN49ax=        -4  18:28        &nbs= p;=20 -26  20:20        &n= bsp;            =    =20 6

G0KTN       973  IO81ti        =20 +0  00:02        =20 -26  18:02        &n= bsp;            =  =20 54

F4DTL       &nb= sp;639  JN18fp       =20 -4  22:28        &nb= sp;=20 -21  18:02        &n= bsp;            =  =20 17

G4JNT       &nb= sp;893  IO90iv      &n= bsp;  -4  = 20:34     &nbs= p;   =20 -21  18:22        &n= bsp;            =  =20 48

         &nb= sp;            &= nbsp;            = ;            &nb= sp;            &= nbsp;            = ;            &nb= sp;          =20 --------------

         &nb= sp;            &= nbsp;            = ;            &nb= sp;     =20      =             &nbs= p;            &n= bsp;            = Total   =20 378

 <= /SPAN>

       Mni tnx=20 to All

         &nb= sp;            &= nbsp;       =20

73     =20  Walt= er  DI2AG / DJ2LF

      =20 03.02.09

 <= /SPAN>

 <= /SPAN>

------=_NextPart_000_0129_01C99B23.91EBF350-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg10.mx.aol.com (rly-mg10.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.116]) by air-mg03.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMG033-a3e49be2cdb32d; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 06:41:50 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg10.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG108-a3e49be2cdb32d; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 06:41:32 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LjAFP-0003Qu-IF for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 10:40:43 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LjAFO-0003Ql-OB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 10:40:42 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-1-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.52]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LjAFL-000354-B6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 10:40:42 +0000 X-Trace: 168005653/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.59.96/None/g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.59.96 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Microsoft Office Outlook 11Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArcEAJvJvUlYajtg/2dsb2JhbACCUVOGeoNbxRIHg3gG X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,372,1233532800"; d="gif'147?scan'147,208,217,147";a="168005653" Received: from 88-106-59-96.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.59.96]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 16 Mar 2009 10:40:37 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <009001c9a588$7eb02c60$6401a8c0@asus> <00e001c9a5a7$f07216a0$6401a8c0@asus> <826BA6086575402A8C87062492069F5A@AGB> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 10:40:37 -0000 Message-ID: <004501c9a623$a4bf81d0$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <826BA6086575402A8C87062492069F5A@AGB> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AcmlvEqNx4lQaS9KQDqZ7f+2D+BElAAZc6jw X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0046_01C9A623.A4C1F2D0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0046_01C9A623.A4C1F2D0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0047_01C9A623.A4C1F2D0" ------=_NextPart_001_0047_01C9A623.A4C1F2D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Graham, LF, You wrote :- >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute intervals. <<< that could be backed off to 15 mins as the beacon only sends every 15 ?? I mentioned in my previous mail to ignore the text on the page as it was originally for grabber 1 for when I upgrade the web site (to a new design & better navigation etc), also mentioned is that upload is every 30 minutes. If the uploaded chart proves useful or interesting to operators & viewers then I will change the text & make it a permanent feature for the foreseeable future. BTW :- For those of you who are not familiar with the chart - The RED trace is Andy's (G4JNT) beacon signal & the BLACK trace is the noise level at my QTH. The Blue & GREEN are not in use & should be ignored on this chart as they are for the other beacons used when monitoring on the 5MHz allocation. Cheers, Gary - G4WGT _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham Sent: 15 March 2009 22:17 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software Gary.. That looks good ... 0500 looks best time for a qso .. see you then Smile emoticon >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute intervals. <<< that could be backed off to 15 mins as the beacon only sends every 15 ?? the 15 db over the noise in day time is the same at this qth .. looks like the big dips round 1900 where just when we where testing .. typical hihi tnx- G .. From: Gary - G4WGT Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 7:55 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: RE: Syncback software LF, I have now got the software, Syncback running correctly (I think). The purpose of this is to upload the chart from Andy's beacon as received here to my web site periodically, ie. every 30 minutes. I now have a receiver running 24/7 monitoring Andy,s beacon on 503.7KHz. You can view the chart on my web site at :- http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html For the moment ignore the text on the page as it is originally designed to use with the 500KHz grabber when I renew my web site design. If it is a useful upload I will make it a permanent feature but may have to extend the frequency coverage of grabber 1 so not to overload the PC with operations which will cause the PC to struggle. Let me have your comments please. 73 Gary - G4WGT. _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT Sent: 15 March 2009 16:10 To: LF -RSGB LF Group Subject: LF: Syncback software Hi LF, If anyone is using Syncback software & can help, please. I am tying to upload a file to my website who's filename does not change, only the file size changes. I tried to do it with Argo-upload but failed so I downloaded Syncback & still failing. Syncback gives me the following message :- ********************************** Can connect, but unable to change to destination directory: /chart01.bmp:not a directory ********************************** The Syncback help does not give me the answer. Any help will be appreciated Or Will Argo-Upload do it? Or Is there something else to do it? Thanks in anticipation, 73, Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. _____ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.13/2001 - Release Date: 03/14/09 06:54:00 ------=_NextPart_001_0047_01C9A623.A4C1F2D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Graha= m, LF,

&nb= sp;

You wrote :-

>>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute intervals. <<< that could be backed off to  15 mins as the beacon only&nb= sp; sends every 15 ??

&nb= sp;

I mentioned in my previous mail to ignore the text on the page as it was originally for grabber 1 for when I upgrade the web site (to a new design &a= mp; better navigation etc), also mentioned is that upload is every 30 minutes.

&nb= sp;

If the uploaded chart proves useful or interesting to operators & viewers then=20= I will change the text & make it a permanent feature for the foreseeable f= uture.

&nb= sp;

BTW :-

&nb= sp;

For those of you  who are not familiar with the chart –

&nb= sp;

The RED trace is Andy’s (G4JNT) beacon signal & the BLACK trace is the noi= se level at my QTH.

&nb= sp;

The Blue & GREEN are not in use & should be ignored on this chart as they are for the other beacons used when monitoring on the 5MHz allocation.

&nb= sp;

Cheers,<= o:p>

&nb= sp;

Gary = 211; G4WGT

&nb= sp;

&nb= sp;

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham
Sent: 15 March 2009 22:17
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software

 

Gary<= /span>..

 

That looks good  ... 0500 looks best time for=20= a qso .. see you then 3D"Smile 

 

>>>Uploa= d is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute intervals. <<< t= hat could be backed off to  15 mins as the beacon only  sends every 15= ??

 

the  15 db o= ver the noise in day time is the  same at this qth .. looks like the big dips round 1900  where just when we where testing ..  typical hihi

 

tnx- G .. =

 

Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 7:55 PM

Subject: LF: RE: Syncback software

 

LF,=

&nb= sp;

I have now got the software, Syncback running correctly (I think).

&nb= sp;

The purpose of this is to upload the chart from Andy’s beacon as received here to my web site periodically, ie. every 30 minutes.

&nb= sp;

I now have a receiver running 24/7 monitoring Andy,s beacon on 503.7KHz.

&nb= sp;

You can view the chart on my web site at :-

&nb= sp;

http://myweb.tiscali.= co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html

&nb= sp;

For the moment ignore the text on the page as it is originally designed to use with=20= the 500KHz grabber when I renew my web site design. If it is a useful upload I w= ill make it a permanent feature but may have to extend the frequency coverage of grabber 1 so not to overload the PC with operations which will cause the PC=20= to struggle.

&nb= sp;

Let me have your comments please.

&nb= sp;

73<= /o:p>

&nb= sp;

Gary – G4WGT.

&nb= sp;

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT
Sent: 15 March 2009 16:10
To: LF -RSGB LF Group
Subject: LF: Syncback softwar= e

 

Hi LF,=

 =

If anyone is using Syncback sof= tware & can help, please.

 =

I am tying to upload a file to=20= my website who’s filename does not change, only the file size changes. I tried to= do it with Argo-upload but failed so I downloaded Syncback & still failing.=

 =

Syncback gives me the following= message :-

 =

*******************************= ***

Can connect, but unable to chan= ge to destination directory:

/chart01.bmp:not a directory

*******************************= ***

The Syncback help does not give= me the answer.

 =

Any help will be appreciated

 =

Or=

 =

Will Argo-Upload do it?

 =

Or=

 =

Is there something else to do i= t?

 =

Thanks in anticipation,

 =

73,

 

Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.=

 


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Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/3/17 Gary - G4WGT > *Andy,* > > * * > > *>>>>* Did the messages about the modified beacon timing software get > though this reflector - don't appear to see them in the in box? > > *I received the original & the correction to the url.* > > * * > > *OK, I used =93decode=94 as the first word that came out of my head.* > > * * > > *I have looked at the black trace on my beacon chart & it doesn=92t seem t= o > coincide with the peaks on the blue & green trace, there is a black peak b= ut > slightly offset. On my grabber saves there is very high noise level for a > couple of minutes some times the blue & green has a peak which shows on th= e > text log as well.* > > * * > > *But I have also seen very short carriers which I thought at first were > part of you normal beacon signal & when looking carefully at the timestamp > were at the following times =96 1735, 1750 & 1751. At these times there wa= s no > burst of noise.* > > * * > > *Cheers,* > > * * > > *Gary - G4WGT.* > > * * > > * * > > * * > ------------------------------ > > *From:* owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto: > owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] *On Behalf Of *Andy Talbot > *Sent:* 17 March 2009 20:36 > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > *Subject:* Re: LF: RE: Who's playing on 503.7 > > > > continued ... > > > > The black trace gives it away. If there is extended QRM that spans the > noise measurement period (which is the WHOLE minute before) and the 5s Tx > period it will show up on both. The different system of noise > measurement explains why the (no QRMed) green and blue traces are not > sitting on top of teh black trace. Ideally, with no signal there, they > should. > > > Andy G4JNT > www.g4jnt.com > > 2009/3/17 Andy Talbot > > I filled in a couple at 1800, deliberately, by flicking the test switch on > my beacon Tx. But there are too many peaks on the green annd blue > traces to not suspect someone else is firing up a Tx. > > > > Its not a case of false decodes - there's not such thing as a 'decode' wit= h > this monitoring S/W. All it does is to measure the signal power over > precisely this time slot, using a synchronised FFT with a bin size of > 0.2Hz, which after windowing gives about 0.4Hz noise bandwidth. So any QR= M > would have to be quite strong to make a significant impact, and persist ov= er > 5 seconds. Short spikes get averaged out to not-a-lot. > > > > Did the messages about the modified beacon timing software get though this > reflector - don't appear to see them in the in box? > > > > If not, http://www.g4jnt.com/beacons.htm at the bottom look for PCBCN > > Directly, http://www.g4jnt.com/PCBCN.zip > > > > > Andy G4JNT > www.g4jnt.com > > 2009/3/17 Gary - G4WGT > > > > *Hi Andy, LF,* > > * * > > *I have not detected anything here other than your Tx.* > > * * > > *I was going to e-mail anyway because I have some false decodes on the 5 & > 6 minute slots, see list below. These coincide with high bursts of noise > which I experience here from time to time. Is there an issue with the deco= de > software being =93foxed=94 by high noise level?* > > * * > > *Gary =96 G4WGT.* > > * * > > *15:45 40.35 25.76 -240.0 0.0* > > *15:46 41.05 25.76 -240.0 1499.5* > > *15:47 39.52 25.76 -240.0 0.0* > > *16:00 41.70 25.75 -240.0 1499.5* > > *16:01 41.62 25.75 -240.0 1510.6* > > *16:02 31.49 25.75 -240.0 0.0* > > *16:15 40.10 25.47 -240.0 0.0* > > *16:16 30.16 25.47 -240.0 0.0* > > *16:17 29.17 25.47 -240.0 0.0* > > *16:30 37.85 28.93 -240.0 0.0* > > *16:31 41.80 28.93 -240.0 0.0* > > *16:32 36.23 28.93 -240.0 0.0* > > *16:45 40.98 25.80 -240.0 1499.6* > > *16:46 29.45 25.80 -240.0 0.0* > > *16:47 30.17 25.80 -240.0 0.0* > > *17:00 35.23 25.58 -240.0 0.0* > > *17:01 28.35 25.58 -240.0 0.0* > > *17:02 35.28 25.58 -240.0 0.0* > > *17:15 45.32 25.10 -240.0 1499.4* > > *17:16 30.14 25.10 -240.0 0.0* > > *17:17 27.57 25.10 -240.0 0.0* > > *17:30 51.09 25.30 -240.0 1499.5* > > *17:31 53.16 25.30 -240.0 1499.6* > > *17:32 30.18 25.30 -240.0 0.0* > > *17:45 47.93 25.21 -240.0 1499.5* > > *17:46 48.63 25.21 -240.0 1499.5* > > *17:47 49.12 25.21 -240.0 1499.5* > > *18:00 38.75 34.29 -240.0 0.0* > > *18:01 32.01 34.29 -240.0 0.0* > > *18:02 28.89 34.29 -240.0 0.0* > > *18:15 51.36 26.01 -240.0 1499.6* > > *18:16 38.85 26.01 -240.0 0.0* > > *18:17 40.74 26.01 -240.0 0.0* > > *18:30 43.06 24.96 -240.0 1499.5* > > *18:31 29.24 24.96 -240.0 0.0* > > *18:32 29.61 24.96 -240.0 0.0* > > *18:45 36.98 26.26 -240.0 0.0* > > *18:46 34.87 26.26 -240.0 0.0* > > *18:47 36.14 26.26 -240.0 0.0* > > *19:00 50.09 26.57 -240.0 1499.7* > > *19:01 42.04 26.57 -240.0 1518.0* > > *19:02 28.58 26.57 -240.0 0.0* > > * * > > * * > > * * > ------------------------------ > > *From:* owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto: > owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] *On Behalf Of *Andy Talbot > *Sent:* 17 March 2009 19:48 > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > *Subject:* LF: Who's playing on 503.7 > > > > OK, Who is it? [?] > > We can see you > > There's activity in the 5 and 6 minutes slots. > > > > > > > Andy G4JNT > www.g4jnt.com > > > > > --0016e6d99bef27d050046562ed7b Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I=A0sometimes flick the test switch and send a carrier - so you're=20= probably seeing those.
=A0
Andy =A0G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com
=

2009/3/17 Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>

Andy,

=A0

>>>>= ; Did the messages about the modified beacon timing softwa= re get though this reflector - don't appear to see them in the in box?

I received the=20= original & the correction to the url.

=A0

OK, I used =93d= ecode=94 as the first word that came out of my head.

=A0

I have looked a= t the black trace on my beacon chart & it doesn=92t seem to coincide wit= h the peaks on the blue & green trace, there is a black peak but slightl= y offset. On my grabber saves there is very high noise level for a couple of= minutes some times the blue & green has a peak which shows on the text=20= log as well.

=A0

But I have also= seen very short carriers which I thought at first were part of you normal b= eacon signal & when looking carefully at the timestamp were at the follo= wing times =96 1735, 1750 & 1751. At these times there was no burst of n= oise.

=A0

Cheers,<= /font>

=A0

Gary - G4WGT.

=A0

=A0

=A0

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_= lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf=20= Of Andy Talbot
Sent: 17 March 2009 20:36=20


To: rsgb_lf_grou= p@blacksheep.org
Subject:<= /span> Re: LF: RE: Who's playing on 503.7=20

=A0

continued ...

=A0

The black trace gives it away.=A0 If there is extended =A0QRM that spans= =A0 the noise measurement period (which is the WHOLE minute before) and the=20= 5s Tx period it will show up on both.=A0=A0 The different system of noise me= asurement=A0explains why the (no QRMed) green and blue traces are not sittin= g on top of teh black trace.=A0=A0 Ideally, with no signal there, they shoul= d.

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Andy =A0G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com

2009/3/17 Andy Talbot <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>

I filled in a couple at 1800, deliberately, by flicking the test switch on=20= my beacon Tx.=A0=A0=A0But there are too many peaks on the green annd blue tr= aces=A0to not suspect someone else is firing up a Tx.

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Its not a case of false decodes - there's not such thing as a 'deco= de' with this monitoring S/W.=A0=A0 All it does is to measure=A0the sign= al power over precisely =A0this time slot, using=A0a synchronised FFT with a= =A0bin size of 0.2Hz,=A0which after windowing gives=A0about 0.4Hz noise band= width.=A0 So any QRM would have to be quite strong to make a significant imp= act, and persist over 5 seconds.=A0=A0 Short spikes get=A0 averaged out to n= ot-a-lot.

=A0

Did the messages about the modified beacon timing software get though this=20= reflector - don't appear to see them in the in box?

=A0

If not,=A0 h= ttp://www.g4jnt.com/beacons.htm=A0at the bottom look for PCBCN

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Andy =A0G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com

2009/3/17 Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>

=A0

Hi Andy, LF,

=A0

I have not dete= cted anything here other than your Tx.

=A0

I was going to=20= e-mail anyway because I have some false decodes on the 5 & 6 minute slot= s, see list below. These coincide with high bursts of noise which I experien= ce here from time to time. Is there an issue with the decode software being=20= =93foxed=94 by high noise level?

=A0

Gary =96 G4WGT.=

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15:45=A0 40.35= =A0 25.76=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

15:46=A0 41.05= =A0 25.76=A0 -240.0=A0 1499.5

15:47=A0 39.52= =A0 25.76=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

16:00=A0 41.70= =A0 25.75=A0 -240.0=A0 1499.5

16:01=A0 41.62= =A0 25.75=A0 -240.0=A0 1510.6

16:02=A0 31.49= =A0 25.75=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

16:15=A0 40.10= =A0 25.47=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

16:16=A0 30.16= =A0 25.47=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

16:17=A0 29.17= =A0 25.47=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

16:30=A0 37.85= =A0 28.93=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

16:31=A0 41.80= =A0 28.93=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

16:32=A0 36.23= =A0 28.93=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

16:45=A0 40.98= =A0 25.80=A0 -240.0=A0 1499.6

16:46=A0 29.45= =A0 25.80=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

16:47=A0 30.17= =A0 25.80=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

17:00=A0 35.23= =A0 25.58=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

17:01=A0 28.35= =A0 25.58=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

17:02=A0 35.28= =A0 25.58=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

17:15=A0 45.32= =A0 25.10=A0 -240.0=A0 1499.4

17:16=A0 30.14= =A0 25.10=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

17:17=A0 27.57= =A0 25.10=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

17:30=A0 51.09= =A0 25.30=A0 -240.0=A0 1499.5

17:31=A0 53.16= =A0 25.30=A0 -240.0=A0 1499.6

17:32=A0 30.18= =A0 25.30=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

17:45=A0 47.93= =A0 25.21=A0 -240.0=A0 1499.5

17:46=A0 48.63= =A0 25.21=A0 -240.0=A0 1499.5

17:47=A0 49.12= =A0 25.21=A0 -240.0=A0 1499.5

18:00=A0 38.75= =A0 34.29=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

18:01=A0 32.01= =A0 34.29=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

18:02=A0 28.89= =A0 34.29=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

18:15=A0 51.36= =A0 26.01=A0 -240.0=A0 1499.6

18:16=A0 38.85= =A0 26.01=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

18:17=A0 40.74= =A0 26.01=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

18:30=A0 43.06= =A0 24.96=A0 -240.0=A0 1499.5

18:31=A0 29.24= =A0 24.96=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

18:32=A0 29.61= =A0 24.96=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

18:45=A0 36.98= =A0 26.26=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

18:46=A0 34.87= =A0 26.26=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

18:47=A0 36.14= =A0 26.26=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

19:00=A0 50.09= =A0 26.57=A0 -240.0=A0 1499.7

19:01=A0 42.04= =A0 26.57=A0 -240.0=A0 1518.0

19:02=A0 28.58= =A0 26.57=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

=A0

=A0

=A0

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_= lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf=20= Of Andy Talbot
Sent: 17 March 2009 19:48To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<= br> Subject: LF: Who's playi= ng on 503.7

=A0

OK, Who is it?

We can see you

There's activity in the=A05 and 6 minutes slots.

=A0

=A0


Andy =A0G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com

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=A0


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I am tempted to build a high-voltage QRP transmitter from one of these beasts ;-) Sure that "DK51" is a unijunction transistor ? I found a french site (in french language) which seems to say that the DK51 is more or less compatible with an MJE13001, which is a 600 Volt, 0.2 A silicon NPN transistor. Looking at the circuit, it seems to make sense: http://pagesperso-orange.fr/doumai/Clartec_Lampe/Clartec_Lampe_8W.htm Cheers, Wolf DL4YHF . From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg05.mx.aol.com (rly-dg05.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.89]) by air-dg07.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDG072-5c849c75115265; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 05:06:44 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg05.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG055-5c849c75115265; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 05:06:33 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Llg6z-0004qp-Tv for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 09:06:25 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Llg6z-0004qg-Fa for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 09:06:25 +0000 Received: from psmtp13.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.25]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Llg6x-0002KX-Hs for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 09:06:25 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp13.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KGY00L18BY7XN@psmtp13.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 10:06:07 +0100 (MET) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 10:06:06 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <6D5F38706EE348D3BC8A9202CE57C5FD@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: XGJ 23-03.jpg Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_AUskEmVdZO3K/DFiVS26Mw)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_AUskEmVdZO3K/DFiVS26Mw) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_KMwfDJrmtUNtXv+9UZq46g)" --Boundary_(ID_KMwfDJrmtUNtXv+9UZq46g) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Hi Warren and Lf, capture XGJ Henny pa3cpm best 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: XGJ 23-03.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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Hi Warren and Lf,
capture XGJ
Henny pa3cpm
best 73s
 
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X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m240.2 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : fail X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --001636c5b541b6826d04659ec77f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm now down to the last two unpopulated PCBs for the AD9852 DDS module http://www.g4jnt.com/projects.htm and http://www.g4jnt.com/newdds.htm . The PCBs are up for grabs for anyone with some spare chips at a reduced price of =A37 each as there is a bit a silver tarnish on the PCBs after bein= g stored. First come first served, with proceeds for these last two PCBs to the South Coast Repeater and Beacon Group funds - any additional donations always welcome. http://www.scrbg.org/donate/ The AD9852 is a bit long in the tooth now so my next DDS design will migrate to one of the later devices with higher frequency clock and better signal purity. Hopefully migration of JT65, WSPR, FSK441, PSK31 and multipurpose beacon code won't be too time consuming. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com --001636c5b541b6826d04659ec77f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I'm now down to the=A0last two unpopulated PCBs for=A0the AD9852 DD= S module=A0http://www.g4jnt.co= m/projects.htm=A0=A0 and=A0 = http://www.g4jnt.com/newdds.htm=A0
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The PCBs are up for grabs for anyone with some spare chips=A0at a reduc= ed price of =A37 each as there=A0is a=A0bit a silver tarnish on the PCBs aft= er being stored.
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First come first served, with proceeds=A0for these last two=A0PCBs to= =A0the South Coast Repeater and Beacon Group funds=A0=A0- any additional don= ations always welcome.=A0=A0http://= www.scrbg.org/donate/=A0
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The AD9852 is a bit long in the tooth now so=A0my next DDS design will=20= migrate to one of the later devices with higher frequency clock and better s= ignal purity.=A0=A0 Hopefully migration of JT65, WSPR, FSK441, PSK31 and mul= tipurpose beacon code won't be too time consuming.

Andy =A0G4JNT
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--001636c5b541b6826d04659ec77f-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg08.mx.aol.com (rly-mg08.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.114]) by air-mg02.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMG024-a2749b4446e326; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 18:19:36 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg08.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG081-a2749b4446e326; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 18:19:28 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LgRLB-0003Yp-7F for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 22:19:25 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LgRLA-0003Yc-2T for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 22:19:24 +0000 Received: from mout2.freenet.de ([195.4.92.92]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LgRL8-0003Xk-CG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 22:19:23 +0000 Received: from [195.4.92.11] (helo=1.mx.freenet.de) by mout2.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID beckmann.erlangen@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #76) id 1LgRL6-0000G3-RV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 23:19:21 +0100 Received: from w0bd1.w.pppool.de ([89.58.11.209]:1535 helo=2a2d7ed321c6425) by 1.mx.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID beckmann.erlangen@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #79) id 1LgRL4-0007BI-Be for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 23:19:20 +0100 From: "Beckmann, Gerhard" To: References: <28FA0F184B25444F8BA2F1EC5FC42C04@AGB> Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 23:19:19 +0100 Message-ID: <42E7DAD85B85407398CEA9B6E0A21280@2a2d7ed321c6425> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AcmgG7ZPjkulcWyvTXSmReloKI5NyQAHq/MQ X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: AW: LF: AW: 503.7 Multi-function beacon ... Its working ! Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0023_01C9A044.4FE3A8B0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01C9A044.4FE3A8B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Andy, =20 Thank you for this special action! Again this evening is very much QRM and unfortunately no reception in JN59LN. But I will try again within the next days in each case beginning at 21:00 UTC. =20 Again mni tks and best 73 de Gerhard / DK6NI =20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =20 =20 _____ =20 Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von Andy Talbot Gesendet: Sonntag, 8. M=E4rz 2009 19:27 An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Betreff: Re: LF: AW: 503.7 Multi-function beacon ... Its working ! =20 It is no trouble to continue the transmission. I have set up the equipment in the garage where it does not get in the way of other shack activites, and won't do too much damage if the euipment blows up! So I can leave it running for a few weeks unless the antenna is needed for other purposes.. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/3/8 Beckmann, Gerhard Hi Graham, =20 Thank you for your statement! Well actually, especially Scattergram or equal measurement methods would be of interest regarding the aspect of signal path monitoring. (direct wave / sky wave via cross correlation of pulse delay values). However, the aspect of interferences by using 500us pulses has to be taken into consideration but may be there are coming up suitable solution by the LF-group.=20 Another method of monitoring the signal path on 500 kHz could possibly performed by using the =93PSK Sounder=94 software from ZL2AFP. And what I sa= w on a first glance it should be usable for transmission and reception in order to monitor the signal path situation. =20 By the way:=20 Do you know if Andy is continuing the Multi-function beaconing on 503.7 kHz? In this case I would try long term signal monitoring by GB3RAL.exe and PSK message decoding within the next evening sessions. =20 vy 73 de Gerhard / DK6NI =20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D =20 =20 =20 _____ =20 Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von Graham Gesendet: Sonntag, 8. M=E4rz 2009 15:36=20 An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Betreff: Re: LF: AW: 503.7 Multi-function beacon ... Its working !=20 =20 Hi, Grerhard, =20 Andy's post about the new beacon came out of the blue, (as is the signal hihi), Working on this, I've simply added a page to the uk500khz news group and posted links about to generate some interest and make sure the beacon details are known to hams and swl's out side this reflector ..=20 =20 The only thing that occurs to me is that there is a possibility for reception reports to be directed to the 5 meg group , I note that the graph generator by G4IRX requests your call and locator before processing the file and presenting you with a plot. so I will see if anything can be done to prevent this , the data format is of course distorted by having only one active beacon.. so it will show up .. but may as yet be unexpected ....! =20 I note from previous email that the pulse aspect of the beacon is required for precise measurements, I think that may be possible to set up a 'experiment' but the aspect of interference to other users may be significant, Andy has referred to the concept of 'phase reversal' in a continues carrier system (or medium pulse ?) that would perhaps be a acceptable mode of modulation, weather it could be transmitted by a 'normal' transmitter im note sure , but its worth noting that activities on 500, to date are not 'funded' as such and time and capital out lay are part of the 'hobby' and such hardware requirements and software re-writes are beyond many of the active stations. but perhaps as interest spreads .. things may change ..?=20 =20 Tnx-=20 =20 Graham =20 G0NBD IO83LK =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 From: Beckmann, Gerhard=20 Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 11:06 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Cc: 'Robert Hemesley'=20 Subject: LF: AW: 503.7 Multi-function beacon ... Its working ! =20 Hello Graham, Hello Andy,=20 =20 reading about your activities concerning Multi-function beacon I tried yesterday evening to catch your signals, but unfortunately with no results copying your sig. May be condx were not good enough. Moreover I had some bad manmade QRM from TV and PC. =20 As Rob Hemesley told you I am active in 5-MHz-beaco- monitoring specially concerning scattergram monitoring in order to analyse signal path situation (direct wave / sky wave behaviour). But I am running both analysis software, GB3RAL.exe and Scattergram.exe and it would not be any problem to modify the internal PC-clock specially regarding GB3RAL.exe in order to analyse the long term signal level of your Multi-function beacon. So I will try to continue monitoring your Multi-function beacon hopefully that condx will be better in the next evening sessions (hi). If there will be Scattergram acties in future I certainly need some more dB signal level, but it would be very interesting to investigate the signal path situation. Of course, this is more interesting for those participants who are located in a distance range between 150 and 300 km in order to monitor the slide crossover from direct wave to sky wave signal path.=20 However, thank you very much for implementation of your very interesting Multi-function beacon project and I will keep on running my monitoring activities and will inform you in any case about further results. =20 vy 73 and a lot of success by running Multi-function beacons, I will be =93o= n the qui vive=94 !!! =20 de Gerhard / DK6NI (JN59LN) =20 By the way:=20 Dial frequency 505.2 kHz, is that o.k.? (because GB3RAL.exe is decoding with 1500 Hz too). For BPSK31-decoding I am using DigiPan Vers.2.0 =20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =20 =20 =20 _____ =20 Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von Graham Gesendet: Samstag, 7. M=E4rz 2009 23:46 An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Betreff: LF: 503.7 Multi-function beacon ... Its working ! =20 So far so good .. quite a step up in signal round 2100 hrs =20 no frequency decode before then , 15 db over noise at 2130 =20 but a trend showing=20 about 1 hour slow qsb=20 =20 any other reports ? =20 G ..=20 =20 _____ =20 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com =20 Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.9/1988 - Release Date: 03/06/09 19:17:00 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01C9A044.4FE3A8B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Andy,

 

Thank you for=20= this special action!

Again this eve= ning is very much QRM and unfortunately no reception in JN59LN.

But I will try= again within the next days in each case beginning at 21:00 UTC.<= /font>

 

Again mni tks=20= and best 73 de Gerhard=A0 /=A0 DK6NI

 

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 =

Von:= owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g] Im Auftrag von Andy Talbot
Gesendet: Sonntag, 8. M=E4rz=20= 2009 19:27
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Betreff: Re: LF: AW: 503.7 Multi-function beacon ... Its working !

 

It is no trouble to continue the transmission.  I h= ave set up the equipment in the garage where it does not get in the way of other shack activites, and won't do too much damage if the euipment blows up!  So I can leave it running for a few weeks unless the antenna is needed for other purposes..


Andy  G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com

2009/3/8 Beckmann, Gerhard <beckmann.erlangen@freenet.de>

= Hi Graham,

=  =

= = Thank you for your statement!

= = Well actually, especially Scattergram or equal measurement methods would be of interest regarding the aspect of signal path monitoring. (direct wave / sky wave via cross correlation of pulse delay values).

= = However, the aspect of interferences by using 500us pulses has to be taken into consideration but may be there are coming up suitable solution by the LF-gro= up.

= = Another method of monitoring the signal path on 500 kHz could possibly performed by using t= he “PSK Sounder” software from ZL2AFP. And what I saw on a first glance it should be usable for transmission and reception in order to monito= r the signal path situation.

= =  

= = By the way:

= = Do you know if Andy is continuing the Multi-function beaconing on 503.7 kHz?<= o:p>

= = In this case I would try long term signal monitoring by GB3RAL.exe and PSK message decoding within the next evening sessions.

= =  

= = vy 73 de Gerhard / DK6NI

= =  

= = =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D

= =  

= =  

 

Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@= blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von Graham
Gesendet: Sonntag, 8. M=E4rz=20= 2009 15:36

Betreff: Re: LF: AW: 503.7 Multi-function beacon ... Its working !

=  

Hi, Grerhard,

=  

Andy's post about the  new beacon came out of the  blue, (as is the signa= l hihi), Working on this,  I've simply added a page to the  uk500khz news group and posted links about to  generate some interest and make sure the beacon details are known to hams and swl's out side this reflector ..

=  

The only thing that occurs to  me is that there is a possibility for recept= ion reports to be  directed to the 5 meg group , I note that the  grap= h generator by G4IRX  requests your call and locator  before process= ing the file and presenting you with a plot. so I will see if anything can be do= ne to  prevent this , the data format is of course distorted by having onl= y one active beacon.. so it will show up .. but may as yet be unexpected ....!=

=  

I note from previous email that the pulse aspect of the  beacon is requir= ed for precise measurements, I think that may be possible to set up a 'experime= nt'  but the aspect of interference to  other users may be significant= , Andy has referred to the concept of 'phase reversal' in a continues carrier system (or medium pulse ?) that would perhaps be a acceptable mode of modula= tion, weather it could be transmitted by a 'normal' transmitter im note sure , but its worth noting that activities on 500, to date  are not 'funded' as s= uch and time and capital out lay are part of the 'hobby' and such hardware requirements  and software re-writes are beyond many of the active stations. but perhaps as interest spreads .. things may change ..?

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Tnx-

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Graham

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Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 11:06 AM

Subject:= LF: AW: 503.7 Multi-function beacon ... Its working !

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Hello Graham, Hello Andy,

 

reading about your activities concerning Multi-function= beacon I tried yesterday evening to catch your signals, but unfortunately with no results copying your sig. May be condx were not good enough.  Moreover I had so= me bad manmade QRM from TV and PC.

 

      As Rob Hemesley told you= I am active in 5-MHz-beaco- monitoring specially concerning  scattergram monitoring in order to analyse signal path situation (direct wave / sky wave behaviour).

      But I am running both an= alysis software, GB3RAL.exe and Scattergram.exe and it would not be any problem to modify the internal PC-clock specially regarding GB3RAL.exe in order to analyse the lon= g term signal level of your Multi-function beacon. So I will try to continue monitoring your Multi-function beacon hopefully that condx will be better in the next evening sessions (hi).

      If there will be Scatter= gram acties in future I certainly need some more dB signal level, but it would be very interesting to investigate the signal path situation.

      Of course, this is more=20= interesting for those participants who are located in a distance range between 150 and 300 k= m in order to monitor the slide crossover from direct wave to sky wave signal path.

       However, thank you= very much for implementation of your very interesting Multi-function beacon project and I will keep on running my monitoring activities and will inform you in any cas= e about further results.

 

vy 73 and a lot of success by running Multi-function be= acons, I will be “on the qui vive” !!!

 

de Gerhard  /  DK6NI  (JN59LN)

 

By the way:

Dial frequency 505.2 kHz, is that o.k.? (because GB3RAL= .exe is decoding with 1500 Hz too).

For BPSK31-decoding I am using DigiPan Vers.2.0<= /font>

 

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Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@= blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von Graham
Gesendet: Samstag, 7. M=E4rz=20= 2009 23:46
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Betreff: LF: 503.7 Multi-func= tion beacon ... Its working !

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So far so good .. quite a step up in signal round 2100 hrs  =

no frequency decode before then , 15 db over noise at 2130

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but a trend showing

about  1 hour slow qsb

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any other reports ?

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G ...

 

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       =20= as=20 Roland ( DL3NDR, former DI2AT ) lend his equipment to me, DI2AG will create=20= a=20 non-stop-whisper-weekend beginning tonight 18UTC an ending Monday morni= ng=20 7UTC. Power will be 27dBm, QRG 505.090KHz. I am interested in your reports,=20= also=20 daylight propagation.Thank you in advance.
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------=_NextPart_000_0041_01C99E76.34C205B0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh08.mx.aol.com (rly-mh08.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.144]) by air-mh02.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMH024-bec49c7803d7c; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 08:27:57 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh08.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH084-bec49c7803d7c; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 08:27:45 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LljFD-0006j7-Nr for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 12:27:07 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LljFD-0006iy-3b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 12:27:07 +0000 Received: from qw-out-1920.google.com ([74.125.92.148]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LljFA-0003IB-VH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 12:27:07 +0000 Received: by qw-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 5so1039510qwc.16 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 05:27:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=TOqyaIZb+EkobaFpekMyTNPOPXgg6P9xs2Uj7ayygQU=; b=uwmAnse3gYAKTjqpBSP7u07VGRCxGaze9Ad7sAXIzQWKTdq9E5SzurXEHj2iByAmoa 289+qxRLoVZF5/pD9arnD9CiYg3foPUjlwsAfPKdAOoA2MH+lfhUIdV/rLXRKjE1HGEK aBjZyYHE0+DshlY7L/5EcbMAA89Zjmah97Dgg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Nz4kGpgHTHMhc4RAIepTcBTUFkl0e/L7XR2tkQyFQ5qMibG5bOP+e8bf7FHcr7aIJF YySTakEgfEPyTcOxBSPJgHqcpjmKplwEmvshbOViDLZmTg465lqLd92piTDP1NxZmMnB Cmt9YQsc6ZhUPjSCzWtlnuVMhwPTZiZ4Ueo9Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.60.75 with SMTP id o11mr8681324qah.230.1237811222112; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 05:27:02 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <49C76B3C.7933.6BFBAD@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> References: <49C76B3C.7933.6BFBAD@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 08:27:02 -0400 Message-ID: <57a24ca70903230527v1911ac6cqec938c95883f3a5@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: XGJ - excellent Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d229.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Mike, Thank you for the excellent report! 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Attached is the call starting at 0452 and is one of the best > transatlantic signals I have ever seen - there's even a small amount > of 'dog boning'.. > > Mike, G3XDV > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > The following section of this message contains a file attachment > prepared for transmission using the Internet MIME message format. > If you are using Pegasus Mail, or any other MIME-compliant system, > you should be able to save it or view it from within your mailer. > If you cannot, please ask your system administrator for assistance. > > =A0 ---- File information ----------- > =A0 =A0 File: =A0XGJ-0452-20090323-lo.jpg > =A0 =A0 Date: =A023 Mar 2009, 10:55 > =A0 =A0 Size: =A03692 bytes. > =A0 =A0 Type: =A0JPEG-image > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de06.mx.aol.com (rly-de06.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.142]) by air-de02.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDE024-4e149cc0c70338; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:15:19 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de06.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE064-4e149cc0c70338; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:14:59 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LmymN-0005S0-Of for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 23:14:31 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LmymN-0005Rr-DO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 23:14:31 +0000 Received: from smtp102.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com ([76.13.13.41]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LmymL-00041G-72 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 23:14:31 +0000 Received: (qmail 57756 invoked from network); 26 Mar 2009 23:14:20 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=RrmULI5pQd33s9USszGZ71zCwx5ML3kscxhZiDjsZTJQ72sZXFe6Wlsz6LfZdR6tJ/ktAnFJCqnBhY31Pl+W6q9H0N2wKC/mYI208YL654S0A+SgG8TPuaUU302nRMmCvbDP4KRYTmd+L8V1wt6InnAJc9cc3AOVp8TSdGxJLx8= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.100?) (we0h@75.168.158.40 with plain) by smtp102.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Mar 2009 23:14:20 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: qgY.osIVM1n05_2fDWPSCyCx5_8qNO1mzqNV.1a.aG.DFkaboocqCSwSIXbvvStRomUCuQRXAjfsOtdcUCcKh0Km6Q_FWt8sEJm5GeQq55aX9Qkc1Q_62dGVYHNkBkWID0q5BrUPieeeUA4iogNUCguIHeznStt7vesGu7WhLRR0jlBqRPH5b3FZelbl7A-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <49CC0C42.4000008@yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 18:14:10 -0500 From: Mike-WE0H User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090318) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <49CBF051.9090707@usa.net> <49CBFB9E.9040903@usa.net> <49CC0310.3040808@telia.com> In-Reply-To: <49CC0310.3040808@telia.com> X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Lazy Man's CW made it to Venus and back Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Over here, at least in the Midwest states, we say Give her hell OM!!! hi hi... Mike WE0H Johan wrote: > I didn't know it was an English saying/proverb! The swedish translation > "Kasta pärlor för svinen" is sometimes used in similar circumstances... > > 73 > Johan > > Alberto wrote: > >>> the meaning of the English saying of "throwing pearls to the porks".... >>> >> Or perhaps it is "throwing pearls to the pigs", but the meaning does not >> change... >> From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc10.mx.aol.com (rly-dc10.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.39]) by air-dc01.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDC014-b4c49bfa0c236d; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 09:08:44 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc10.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC108-b4c49bfa0c236d; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 09:08:19 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LjZ0h-0002ew-Cq for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 13:07:11 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LjZ0g-0002en-3d for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 13:07:10 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.159]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LjZ0e-0002BE-5Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 13:07:10 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3414.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id A55AA1C00084 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 14:07:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.15.9]) by mwinf3414.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 4B2421C00081 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 14:06:59 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20090317130659307.4B2421C00081@mwinf3414.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: References: <009001c9a588$7eb02c60$6401a8c0@asus> <004501c9a623$a4bf81d0$6401a8c0@asus> <2ED02F4327204E3C903828F9E18AA72B@AGB> <001e01c9a665$ebeac870$6401a8c0@asus> <00be01c9a66e$c8bfdbc0$0900a8c0@AM> <004a01c9a677$2a8b48a0$6401a8c0@asus> <005101c9a679$df148f50$6401a8c0@asus> <916F3329CAA846A19B450540FCC7E0AB@AGB> In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 13:06:58 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8064.206 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8064.206 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0018_01C9A701.410D5B10" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNSAFE,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C9A701.410D5B10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ok Andy=20 Easily ... that's the problem hihi ..=20 Is there anyone tuned in who could write a short code to say ,select the com= port, time slot and key the com port ? , That way any simple cw tx could=20= be used , as not every one can translate from audio to rf on 500 or 137 ! Thanks=20 Graham ,, From: Andy Talbot=20 Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 7:55 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software Easily, all you need is a five second transmission of carrier at xx:05:25 xx= :20:25 etc But accurate timing to at least one second accuracy is essential, so the PC=20= clock will have to be set continuously. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/3/16 Graham Andy, Is there any way the slots could be filled using a pc ... ? if a small ex= e could be run to make a cw pulse then that would be no problem ? G ..=20 From: Andy Talbot=20 Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 9:36 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software See you just have - got quite a shock until I realised the noise had plumm= eted as well. Any takers for the 5 and 6 minute slots? Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/3/16 Gary - G4WGT Andy, OK, I will insert an attenuator at the antenna socket (that=92s an easy=20= move) & watch how it performs. It is switched at 10dB steps so I will start=20= at 10db of course. Cheers, Gary. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@bla= cksheep.org] On Behalf Of Andy Talbot Sent: 16 March 2009 20:45=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software Doesn't matter which - just total system gain. That S/W works best if t= he noise threshold rides at about 10dB above the baseline, then it allows f= or up to 70 - 80dB of signal peaks. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/3/16 Gary - G4WGT Alan, When you wrote :- my only comment is that you may have too much gain in the system. Are you meaning sound card or receiver gain? Gary. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Alan Melia Sent: 16 March 2009 19:38 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software Hi Gary my only comment is that you may have too much gain in the system= . It is sometimes better to have the noise further down nearer the axis. I am afraid there is a major problem with this kind of beacon, when the fading period is shorter than the sampling interval, so you dont really=20= know what the path is doing. The only reliable points are the peaks, the trou= ghs dont really mean anything without some very sophisticated analysis and probably two spaced receivers. However it does give a snapshot of the ba= nd without taking up too much bandwidth (this was what was required for 5MH= z too). Despite all the data collected very little analysis has actually b= e done on the 5MHz data collected by this program. The one succesfull bit=20= of work was that published in Radcom by Marcis Walden G0IJZ. I used it for=20= some time whilst Andy was testing the Poldhu beacon on 160m and also during t= he 1st two months that ran. I was certainly surprised by the daytime path o= n 160m from here. I have seen the data collected in Canada via Joe Craig V= O1NA and it is difficult to see how to use it. Still if you dont collect the data you will never know!! Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 6:35 PM Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software > Hi Graham, LF, > > > > The original HTML Code for the 2 minute refresh is still inserted into= the > page format, so upload is 30 minute intervals with Syncback & 2 minute > refresh. I have left the refresh in case I revert back to the original > grabber page. I will look at changing it if I continue to use the beac= on > chart upload. > > > > I would like to have feedback from the LF group regarding the page, if= you > check it out periodically, is it useful to you, what are you looking f= or. > > > > You can view the chart on my web site at :- > > > > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html > > > > 73 > > > > Gary - G4WGT. > > > > > > _____ > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham > Sent: 16 March 2009 17:20 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > Hi Gary, > > > > The page seemed to refresh quite often ... are there two settings ? > > > > G .. > > > > From: Gary - G4WGT > > Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:40 AM > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > Hi Graham, LF, > > > > You wrote :- > > >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute > intervals. <<< that could be backed off to 15 mins as the beacon only > sends every 15 ?? > > > > I mentioned in my previous mail to ignore the text on the page as it w= as > originally for grabber 1 for when I upgrade the web site (to a new des= ign & > better navigation etc), also mentioned is that upload is every 30 minu= tes. > > > > If the uploaded chart proves useful or interesting to operators & view= ers > then I will change the text & make it a permanent feature for the > foreseeable future. > > > > BTW :- > > > > For those of you who are not familiar with the chart - > > > > The RED trace is Andy's (G4JNT) beacon signal & the BLACK trace is the noise > level at my QTH. > > > > The Blue & GREEN are not in use & should be ignored on this chart as t= hey > are for the other beacons used when monitoring on the 5MHz allocation. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Gary - G4WGT > > > > > > _____ > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham > Sent: 15 March 2009 22:17 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > Gary.. > > > > That looks good ... 0500 looks best time for a qso .. see you then Sm= ile > emoticon > > > > >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute > intervals. <<< that could be backed off to 15 mins as the beacon only > sends every 15 ?? > > > > the 15 db over the noise in day time is the same at this qth .. look= s like > the big dips round 1900 where just when we where testing .. typical=20= hihi > > > > tnx- G .. > > > > From: Gary - G4WGT > > Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 7:55 PM > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > Subject: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > LF, > > > > I have now got the software, Syncback running correctly (I think). > > > > The purpose of this is to upload the chart from Andy's beacon as recei= ved > here to my web site periodically, ie. every 30 minutes. > > > > I now have a receiver running 24/7 monitoring Andy,s beacon on 503.7KH= z. > > > > You can view the chart on my web site at :- > > > > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html > > > > For the moment ignore the text on the page as it is originally designe= d to > use with the 500KHz grabber when I renew my web site design. If it is=20= a > useful upload I will make it a permanent feature but may have to exten= d the > frequency coverage of grabber 1 so not to overload the PC with operati= ons > which will cause the PC to struggle. > > > > Let me have your comments please. > > > > 73 > > > > Gary - G4WGT. > > > > _____ > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT > Sent: 15 March 2009 16:10 > To: LF -RSGB LF Group > Subject: LF: Syncback software > > > > Hi LF, > > > > If anyone is using Syncback software & can help, please. > > > > I am tying to upload a file to my website who's filename does not chan= ge, > only the file size changes. I tried to do it with Argo-upload but fail= ed so > I downloaded Syncback & still failing. > > > > Syncback gives me the following message :- > > > > ********************************** > > Can connect, but unable to change to destination directory: > > /chart01.bmp:not a directory > > ********************************** > > The Syncback help does not give me the answer. > > > > Any help will be appreciated > > > > Or > > > > Will Argo-Upload do it? > > > > Or > > > > Is there something else to do it? > > > > Thanks in anticipation, > > > > 73, > > > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. > > > > _____ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.13/2001 - Release Date: 03/1= 4/09 > 06:54:00 > > _____ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.15/2003 - Release Date: 03/1= 5/09 > 14:07:00 > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.15/2004 - Release Date: 03/16/09= 07:04:00 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.16/2006 - Release Date: 03/17/09 0= 7:23:00 ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C9A701.410D5B10 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ok Andy
 
Easily ... that's the  problem  h= ihi ..=20
 
Is there anyone tuned in who could write a=20= short=20 code to say ,select the com port,  time slot and  key the com= =20 port ? , That way any simple cw tx could be used , as not every  o= ne=20 can translate from audio to  rf on 500 or 137 !
 
Thanks
 
Graham ,,

Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 7:55 AM
Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software

Easily, all you need is a five second transmission of carrier at xx:05:= 25=20 xx:20:25 etc
But accurate timing to at least one second accuracy is essential, so th= e PC=20 clock will have to be set continuously.

Andy  G4JNT
= www.g4jnt.com


2009/3/16 Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
Andy,
 
Is there any way the  slots could be= filled=20 using a pc ... ? if a small exe could be run to  make a cw  puls= e=20 then that would be no problem ?
 
G ..

Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 9:36 PM
Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback=20 software

See you just have - got quite a shock until I realised the noise had=20 plummeted as well.
Any takers for the 5 and 6 minute slots?

Andy  G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com


2009/3/16 Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk= >

Andy,

 

OK,=20 I will insert an attenuator at the antenna socket (that=92s an easy move= )=20 & watch how it performs. It is switched at 10dB steps so I will star= t at=20 10db of course.

 

Cheers,

 

Gary.

 

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Andy Talbot
Sent: 16 March 2009 20:45=20


To: rsgb_lf_gro= up@blacksheep.org
Subject:= Re: LF: RE: Syncback=20 software

 

Doesn't=20 matter which - just total system gain.  That S/W works best if the=20 noise threshold rides at about 10dB above the baseline,  then it al= lows=20 for up to 70 - 80dB of signal peaks.


Andy  G4JNT
<= A href=3D"http://www.g4jnt.com/" target=3D_blank>www.g4jnt.com

2009/3/16 Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>

Alan,

When you wrote :-

my only comment is that you may have=20= too much gain=20 in the system.

Are you=20 meaning sound card or receiver gain?

Gary.



-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_gro= up@blacksheep.org

[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of=20= Alan=20 Melia
Sent: 16 March 2009 19:38

To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Sub= ject: Re: LF: RE:=20 Syncback software

Hi Gary my only comment is that you may have to= o=20 much gain in the system. It
is sometimes better to have the noise fur= ther=20 down nearer the axis.

I am afraid there is a major problem with t= his=20 kind of beacon, when the
fading period is shorter than the sampling=20 interval, so you dont really know
what the path is doing. The only=20 reliable points are the peaks, the troughs
dont really mean anything=20 without some very sophisticated analysis and
probably two spaced=20 receivers. However it does give a snapshot of the band
without taking= up=20 too much bandwidth (this was what was required for 5MHz
too). Despite= all=20 the data collected very little analysis has actually be
done on the 5= MHz=20 data collected by this program. The one succesfull bit of
work was th= at=20 published in Radcom by Marcis Walden G0IJZ. I used it for some
time=20 whilst Andy was testing the Poldhu beacon on 160m and also during the1st=20 two months that ran. I was certainly surprised by the daytime path=20 on
160m from here. I have seen the data collected in Canada via Joe C= raig=20 VO1NA
and it is difficult to see how to use it.

Still if you d= ont=20 collect the data you will never know!!

Alan=20 G3NYK




----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary -=20 G4WGT" <= g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org><= BR>Sent: Monday, March=20 16, 2009 6:35 PM
Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software


&g= t;=20 Hi Graham, LF,
>
>
>
> The original HTML Code fo= r=20 the 2 minute refresh is still inserted into the
> page format, so=20 upload is 30 minute intervals with Syncback & 2 minute
> refre= sh.=20 I have left the refresh in case I revert back to the original
>=20 grabber page. I will look at changing it if I continue to use the=20 beacon
> chart upload.
>
>
>
> I would lik= e to=20 have feedback from the LF group regarding the page, if you
> check= it=20 out periodically, is it useful to you, what are you looking=20 for.
>
>
>
> You can view the chart on my web si= te=20 at :-
>
>
>
> http://myweb.tiscali= .co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html
>
>
>
>=20 73
>
>
>
> Gary -=20 G4WGT.
>
>
>
>
>
>  =20 _____
>
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of=20 Graham
> Sent: 16 March 2009 17:20
> To: rsgb_lf_group@black= sheep.org
> Subject: Re: LF: RE:=20 Syncback software
>
>
>
> Hi=20 Gary,
>
>
>
> The page seemed to  refresh q= uite=20 often ... are there two settings ?
>
>
>
> G=20 ..
>
>
>
> From: Gary - G4WGT <mailto:g4wgt@tiscali.co= .uk>
>
> Sent: Monday,=20 March 16, 2009 10:40 AM
>
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=
>
> Subject: RE:=20 LF: RE: Syncback software
>
>
>
> Hi Graham,=20 LF,
>
>
>
> You wrote :-
>
>=20 >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2=20 minute
> intervals. <<< that could be backed off to  = ;15=20 mins as the beacon only
> sends every 15=20 ??
>
>
>
> I mentioned in my previous mail to ig= nore=20 the text on the page as it was
> originally for grabber 1 for when= I=20 upgrade the web site (to a new design
&
> better navigation= =20 etc), also mentioned is that upload is every 30=20 minutes.
>
>
>
> If the uploaded chart proves us= eful=20 or interesting to operators & viewers
> then I will change the= =20 text & make it a permanent feature for the
> foreseeable=20 future.
>
>
>
> BTW=20 :-
>
>
>
> For those of you  who are not=20 familiar with the chart -
>
>
>
> The RED trace=20= is=20 Andy's (G4JNT) beacon signal & the BLACK trace is the
noise
&g= t;=20 level at my QTH.
>
>
>
> The Blue & GREEN ar= e=20 not in use & should be ignored on this chart as they
> are for= the=20 other beacons used when monitoring on the 5MHz=20 allocation.
>
>
>
>=20 Cheers,
>
>
>
> Gary -=20 G4WGT
>
>
>
>
>
>  =20 _____
>
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of=20 Graham
> Sent: 15 March 2009 22:17
> To: rsgb_lf_group@black= sheep.org
> Subject: Re: LF: RE:=20 Syncback software
>
>
>
>=20 Gary..
>
>
>
> That looks good  ... 0500 lo= oks=20 best time for a qso .. see you then Smile
>=20 emoticon
>
>
>
> >>>Upload is set at 5=20 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute
> intervals.=20 <<< that could be backed off to  15 mins as the beacon=20 only
> sends every 15 ??
>
>
>
> the  = ;15=20 db over the noise in day time is the  same at this qth ..=20 looks
like
> the big dips round 1900  where just when we w= here=20 testing ..  typical hihi
>
>
>
> tnx- G=20 ..
>
>
>
> From: Gary - G4WGT <mailto:g4wgt@tiscali.co= .uk>
>
> Sent: Sunday,=20 March 15, 2009 7:55 PM
>
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<= /A>
>
> Subject: LF:=20 RE: Syncback software
>
>
>
>=20 LF,
>
>
>
> I have now got the software, Syncbac= k=20 running correctly (I think).
>
>
>
> The purpose= of=20 this is to upload the chart from Andy's beacon as received
> here=20= to=20 my web site periodically, ie. every 30=20 minutes.
>
>
>
> I now have a receiver running 2= 4/7=20 monitoring Andy,s beacon on 503.7KHz.
>
>
>
> Yo= u=20 can view the chart on my web site at :-
>
>
>
>=20= http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html
><= BR>>
>
>=20 For the moment ignore the text on the page as it is originally designed=20 to
> use with the 500KHz grabber when I renew my web site design.=20= If=20 it is a
> useful upload I will make it a permanent feature but may= =20 have to extend
the
> frequency coverage of grabber 1 so not to=20 overload the PC with operations
> which will cause the PC to=20 struggle.
>
>
>
> Let me have your comments=20 please.
>
>
>
> 73
>
>
>
&g= t;=20 Gary - G4WGT.
>
>
>
>   _____
>
&g= t;=20 From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner= -rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary -=20 G4WGT
> Sent: 15 March 2009 16:10
> To: LF -RSGB LF=20 Group
> Subject: LF: Syncback software
>
>
>
= >=20 Hi LF,
>
>
>
> If anyone is using Syncback softw= are=20 & can help, please.
>
>
>
> I am tying to up= load=20 a file to my website who's filename does not change,
> only the fi= le=20 size changes. I tried to do it with Argo-upload but failed
so
>= I=20 downloaded Syncback & still failing.
>
>
>
>= =20 Syncback gives me the following message :-
>
>
>
&g= t;=20 **********************************
>
> Can connect, but unab= le=20 to change to destination directory:
>
> /chart01.bmp:not a=20 directory
>
> **********************************
>
= >=20 The Syncback help does not give me the=20 answer.
>
>
>
> Any help will be=20 appreciated
>
>
>
>=20 Or
>
>
>
> Will Argo-Upload do=20 it?
>
>
>
> Or
>
>
>
> I= s=20 there something else to do it?
>
>
>
> Thanks in= =20 anticipation,
>
>
>
>=20 73,
>
>
>
> Gary - G4WGT -=20 IO83QP.
>
>
>
>   _____
>
>
= >=20 No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> Vers= ion:=20 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.13/2001 - Release Date: 03/14/09
>= ;=20 06:54:00
>
>   _____
>
>
> No virus f= ound=20 in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> Version:=20 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.15/2003 - Release Date: 03/15/09
>= ;=20 14:07:00
>
>


 

=


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A big thankyou to everyone who replied to my recent e-mails on energy sav= ing bulbs.
I sent the message to 3 different lists and received 31 replie= s. The general conclusion seems to be that the only interference to radio li= stening in recent times have been with specific rogue bulbs, not specific br= ands.There was some useful advice on handling the hazards of disposal of bul= bs. Some interesting dialogue on whether these bulbs were as efficient and a= s long life as claimed. Ideas that these bulbs were inappropriate for use wh= ere they were only on for very short periods, but suggestions that recent de= signs were better in all aspects of operation.


So I come to the conclusion that perhaps I will try some but will dev= ise a means of comparing band noise in parts of the spectrum that interst me= .

Then serendipity kicks in. We were on holiday this week some 600 km from=20= home. Go into a charity shop to buy something for =C2=A31. and I am also giv= en 2 free energy saving bulbs from Scottish Hydro Electric. They also decide= that my wife can also have 2 bulbs. Now I have no excuse, I will have to tr= y them when I return.

 

regards

peter

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da03.mx.aol.com (rly-da03.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.77]) by air-da03.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA032-a5d49cf99d48f; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 11:55:23 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da03.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA035-a5d49cf99d48f; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 11:55:01 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LnxL2-0003Hd-Nj for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 16:54:20 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LnxL2-0003HU-3c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 16:54:20 +0100 Received: from mailout10.t-online.de ([194.25.134.21]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LnxL0-0002EW-Gi for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 16:54:20 +0100 Received: from fwd04.aul.t-online.de by mailout10.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 1LnxKx-0002jG-01; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 17:54:15 +0200 Received: from e7010 (Z2YvEsZLwhwJXtptxfDfJuWNt0jcE-I7pmCHchiivlLhU5zJEKpYvSF8gXgzuD9QQc@[84.147.199.15]) by fwd04.aul.t-online.de with smtp id 1LnxKf-0qYXYG0; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 17:53:57 +0200 Message-ID: <00e401c9b086$90695c20$1402a8c0@e7010> From: "Walter und Marianne Staubach" To: Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 17:53:54 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4927.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 X-ID: Z2YvEsZLwhwJXtptxfDfJuWNt0jcE-I7pmCHchiivlLhU5zJEKpYvSF8gXgzuD9QQc X-TOI-MSGID: 3974fc6d-0c69-42a2-831d-21e596795037 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: LF: DI2AG WSPR weekend Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00E1_01C9B097.53B682B0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_00E1_01C9B097.53B682B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear All on MF, DI2AG is still running on 505.090KHz with 0.5W ERP in WSPR. Until now I got a lot of reports from DJ6LB 11 G3XVL 753 DJ6YD 363 G0HNW 993 G0KTN 973 GM4ISM 1220 SQ7MPJ 634 G3AQC 863 G4FDD 971 DD7PC 98 F4DTL 639 Many thanks to all reporters. Please excuse if I forgot one. DI2AG will be t= ransmitting with 33% duty cycle until tomorrow morning 7:00 UTC. 73 Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF =20 ------=_NextPart_000_00E1_01C9B097.53B682B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear All on MF,
       DI2AG=20= is still=20 running on 505.090KHz with 0.5W ERP in WSPR.
Until now I got a lot of reports from <c= all,=20 distance Km>
DJ6LB      =20 11
G3XVL     753
DJ6YD    363
G0HNW   993
G0KTN    973
GM4ISM 1220
SQ7MPJ   634
G3AQC    863
G4FDD    971
DD7PC      9= 8
F4DTL     =20 639
 
Many thanks to all reporters. Please excuse= if I=20 forgot one. DI2AG will be transmitting with 33% duty cycle until tomorr= ow=20 morning 7:00 UTC.
73   Walter   DI2AG /&n= bsp;=20 DJ2LF
 
------=_NextPart_000_00E1_01C9B097.53B682B0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md03.mx.aol.com (rly-md03.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.141]) by air-md02.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMD023-8f749c3424f1ed; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 03:14:28 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md03.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD037-8f749c3424f1ed; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 03:14:24 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LkYvL-0007Td-SD for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 07:13:47 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LkYvL-0007TU-Dz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 07:13:47 +0000 Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.198.250]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LkYvJ-0006Pc-EJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 07:13:47 +0000 Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id l33so1028522rvb.4 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 00:13:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=AM+bUTo6yOjqmvT3NVQLngJ+tgpOUkp2c0fDdbYb7/c=; b=vDWJk1OIqdUp+GypoVkzdQs9i2eUd/zhhZAthHCZG2sMHHkO9t3kwNG1J+BRTTcK7k nuw4RtJ6FM1Apj5UQnQWI7YQd12QgCgbFpfy4BmPCgZ4Pxuwk3GWYtTzNt5IX9EaFVim QTpIwUtKGSag85GvoWqBfPPYHI4+bGRWMzgNs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=qi3Nxjm4K/fOUqvdyHbNtNfLw6ZXybtmpSMBLWW3n19RXTjI/Bu22u9yv44FlNMOaZ AIu2sKe8uyRQ1paU679DHLNQTwbprsBL1IXdThPTDsdc9Cb7EFpG6pldEEuIY1Yi08gX gktTfoD7GKKk+zzuvg4P1GUOZeEvC+ZUcxqx8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.114.150.1 with SMTP id x1mr2259640wad.93.1237533223067; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 00:13:43 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 07:13:42 +0000 Message-ID: <5931f8db0903200013t5985259dr1483addef93a27c0@mail.gmail.com> From: Harry Woodhouse To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 1.3 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_00_10=0.642,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_SHORT_LENGTH=0.629 Subject: LF: 137 KHz reports please Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00163645873428bf52046587a8d7 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m240.1 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : fail X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --00163645873428bf52046587a8d7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If I manage to get my temporary mast up in the wind, I hope to transmit CQ tomorrow, Saturday 21st March with QRSS3 on 137.68KHz. --00163645873428bf52046587a8d7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If I manage to get my temporary mast up in the wind, I hope to transmit CQ tomorrow, Saturday 21st March with QRSS3 on 137.68KHz.

--00163645873428bf52046587a8d7-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc07.mx.aol.com (rly-dc07.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.36]) by air-dc08.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDC082-b3449c29e517c; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 15:35:05 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc07.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC078-b3449c29e517c; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 15:34:43 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LkO09-0000qj-EM for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 19:34:01 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LkO09-0000qa-09 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 19:34:01 +0000 Received: from blu0-omc1-s29.blu0.hotmail.com ([65.55.116.40]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LkO06-0000Bv-PO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 19:34:00 +0000 Received: from BLU146-W12 ([65.55.116.8]) by blu0-omc1-s29.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 19 Mar 2009 12:33:52 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [196.40.0.241] From: Laurence BY3A-KL1X China To: Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 11:33:52 -0800 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <49C16D13.6050204@charter.net> References: <49C16D13.6050204@charter.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Mar 2009 19:33:52.0837 (UTC) FILETIME=[A2B40750:01C9A8C9] X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_c322e2e0-5b9f-4a77-97e2-12893859abf8_" Subject: RE: LF: Ti3 wspr 507.00 tonight and qrss 3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_c322e2e0-5b9f-4a77-97e2-12893859abf8_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ill take another look at the data thanks for coming on... =20 > Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 17:52:19 -0400 > From: w1tag@charter.net > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: Ti3 wspr 507.00 tonight and qrss 3 >=20 > L, >=20 > I'll try to get an hour or two in, but probably not until 0100 UTC. Will=20 > shoot for 1500 Hz =3D 508.500. >=20 > John,W1TAG >=20 > Laurence BY3A-KL1X China wrote: > >=20 > > Will be "listening" 507 dial wspr and qrss 3 slow 507.000 -507.170=20 > > tonight from my dusk till dawn. > >=20 > > nominations for modes and freqs near 505 et al for tomorrow welcomed. > >=20 > >=20 > > Laurence ti3/ kl 1 x > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Windows Live=99 Groups: Create an online spot for your favorite groups t= o=20 > > meet. Check it out.=20 > > > >=20 > >=20 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >=20 > >=20 > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 > > Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.18/2009 - Release Date: 03/18/= 09 07:17:00 > >=20 >=20 _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live=99 Groups: Create an online spot for your favorite groups to me= et. http://windowslive.com/online/groups?ocid=3DTXT_TAGLM_WL_groups_032009=3D --_c322e2e0-5b9f-4a77-97e2-12893859abf8_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ill take another look at the data thanks for coming on..= .
 
> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 17:52:19 -0400
> From: w1ta= g@charter.net
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: Re:=20= LF: Ti3 wspr 507.00 tonight and qrss 3
>
> L,
>
>=20= I'll try to get an hour or two in, but probably not until 0100 UTC. Will > shoot for 1500 Hz =3D 508.500.
>
> John,W1TAG
> > Laurence BY3A-KL1X China wrote:
> >
> > Will be "li= stening" 507 dial wspr and qrss 3 slow 507.000 -507.170
> > tonigh= t from my dusk till dawn.
> >
> > nominations for modes a= nd freqs near 505 et al for tomorrow welcomed.
> >
> > > > Laurence ti3/ kl 1 x
> >
> >
> > > >
> > --------------------------------------------------= ----------------------
> > Windows Live=99 Groups: Create an online= spot for your favorite groups to
> > meet. Check it out.
>= > <http://windowslive.com/online/groups?ocid=3DTXT_TAGLM_WL_groups_03= 2009>
> >
> >
> > --------------------------= ----------------------------------------------
> >
> > > > No virus found in this incoming message.
> > Checked by= AVG - www.avg.com
> > Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.1= 8/2009 - Release Date: 03/18/09 07:17:00
> >
>

Windows Live=99 Groups: Create an online spot for your favorite groups to= meet. Check it out. =3D --_c322e2e0-5b9f-4a77-97e2-12893859abf8_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de06.mx.aol.com (rly-de06.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.142]) by air-de02.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDE022-4df49b2cdb458; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 14:41:01 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de06.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE062-4df49b2cdb458; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 14:40:39 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lg2NB-0000As-Sy for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 19:39:49 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lg2NB-0000Aj-9Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 19:39:49 +0000 Received: from vms173001pub.verizon.net ([206.46.173.1]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lg2N5-0006vH-V3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 19:39:49 +0000 Received: from DR2 ([71.184.212.10]) by vms173001.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KG500I00ILMFDGM@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 13:39:23 -0600 (CST) Message-id: <83E85DB621094E32B6E9B4B1D425737F@DR2> From: "dave.riley3" To: "Carl" , "James M. Walker" , , Cc: "600MRG" References: <000e01c99f02$f6f67df0$41b2fea9@W1KW> <2A3326C8358D483CB97E5776EA0833A7@DR2> <189E2993E39D4765841B1F501C87C42D@KITTYMA123> <447FEB36210040C0A6AF424BF72F21C2@ESHOP1> <4EE82775CC244792B0AD72E53FECF3C1@KITTYMA123> Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2009 14:39:21 -0500 MIME-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36 Subject: LF: Re: 600MRG> Re: Re: Looking for HF to LF-Transverter, ... ? Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=response Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 So take the idea and prototype and roll your own, to perfection even... This was an example of off the shelf plug and play... No shoddy quality was meant or implied... The final version is ALL SMA, cheaper by the dozen on e-bay>> http://cgi.ebay.com/Qty-10-SMA-male-to-SMA-male-6-inch-Cables_W0QQitemZ120381823826QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item120381823826&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50 Still having fun @ ham radio after 55 years of it + SWL.. Ain't it something?? Can't solder or see much any more, but plug and play will get me to the wheelchair... Have a Happy Home Brew... TNX from Dave @ WD2XSH/17 WN1AAI ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carl" To: "James M. Walker" ; "dave.riley3" ; ; Cc: "600MRG" Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 2:20 PM Subject: Re: 600MRG> Re: Re: Looking for HF to LF-Transverter, ... ? > Bored, no. But as someone who has spent decades in RF labs Im a bit > experienced with connector problems causing grief. > > If you have something worthwhile to say try and create a useful statement > instead of whining. > > Carl. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "James M. Walker" > To: "Carl" ; "dave.riley3" ; > ; > Cc: "600MRG" > Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 12:59 PM > Subject: Re: 600MRG> Re: Re: Looking for HF to LF-Transverter, ... ? > > >> Are you bored or what? This is just one example of an answer to the >> initial >> question. Lighten up with this stuff. >> Jim >> WB2FCN/WD2XSH-22 >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Carl" >> To: "dave.riley3" ; >> ; >> Cc: "600MRG" >> Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 7:59 AM >> Subject: Re: 600MRG> Re: Re: Looking for HF to LF-Transverter, ... ? >> >> >>> WOW, there are 19 RF connections and only the SMA are really long term >>> reliable! >>> >>> Carl >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "dave.riley3" >>> To: ; >>> Cc: "600MRG" >>> Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 6:32 AM >>> Subject: 600MRG> Re: Re: Looking for HF to LF-Transverter, ... ? >>> >>> >>>> Hi Marco, >>>> >>>> Indeed the little transverter did well 15 years ago on LowFer >>>> frequencies with some help from external L/C selective circuits... >>>> I used it with the TS930 and believe that it is still running well... >>>> >>>> Now life is easier and you can plug and play with some off the shelf >>>> items or from e-bay. >>>> >>>> Here is complete transverter that works: >>>> >>>> http://www.radiocom.net/600M/TxVerter2.jpg >>>> >>>> Or only use one side for TX or RX >>>> >>>> http://www.radiocom.net/600M/TXconverter.jpg >>>> >>>> Good luck with this fun project. It is the one I use now... >>>> >>>> TNX >>>> >>>> Dave - AA1A >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Holger 'Geri', DK8KW" >>>> To: >>>> Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 3:59 AM >>>> Subject: LF: Re: Looking for HF to LF-Transverter, ... ? >>>> >>>> >>>>> Marco, >>>>> >>>>> have a look here: >>>>> >>>>> http://www.radiocom.net/txvr.jpg >>>>> >>>>> I haven't tried it myself but it looks simple enough to give it a try. >>>>> >>>>> 73 >>>>> >>>>> Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO (currently on 440.015 kHz, tnx for the reception >>>>> reports) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Scholz, Marco " >>>>> To: >>>>> Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 9:55 PM >>>>> Subject: LF: Looking for HF to LF-Transverter, ... ? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Dear LF-Group, >>>>> sorry for bandwidth, i looking for some sort of of mixer/transverter >>>>> to >>>>> use a shortwave transceiver on 137KHz for WSPR. Can be in experimental >>>>> stage, but i need something to start. To build something from scratch >>>>> is >>>>> a bit a challenge for me, so i thought i ask around. Maybe someone has >>>>> to sell some parts? >>>>> If yes, please send me a mail to dd7pc@gmx.de >>>>> >>>>> Many thanks, vy73 >>>>> Marco >>>>> DD7PC >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *********** The Primary 600MRG E-mail List Website is: ********** >>>> ******************* http://www.500kc.com/ *********************** >>>> ******* Secondary is: http://www.mines.uidaho.edu/~SHMRG/ ******* >>>> *** Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to this address: **** >>>> ************** majordomo@piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu ************** >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *********** The Primary 600MRG E-mail List Website is: ********** >>> ******************* http://www.500kc.com/ *********************** >>> ******* Secondary is: http://www.mines.uidaho.edu/~SHMRG/ ******* >>> *** Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to this address: **** >>> ************** majordomo@piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu ************** >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > > > *********** The Primary 600MRG E-mail List Website is: ********** > ******************* http://www.500kc.com/ *********************** > ******* Secondary is: http://www.mines.uidaho.edu/~SHMRG/ ******* > *** Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to this address: **** > ************** majordomo@piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu ************** > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf08.mx.aol.com (rly-mf08.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.178]) by air-mf01.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMF011-97449cf3a4231a; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 05:07:25 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf08.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF082-97449cf3a4231a; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 05:07:15 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lnqy2-0000NP-E5 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 10:06:10 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lnqy2-0000NG-3Q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 10:06:10 +0100 Received: from dx.ru ([80.68.4.13]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lnqxz-0008Uz-HI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 10:06:10 +0100 Received: from [85.26.183.18] (helo=UR5IBG) by dx.ru with esmtpa auth=ed@dx.ru id 1Lnqxt-000ClV-7y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 13:06:01 +0400 Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 13:05:28 +0400 From: Ed RU6LA X-Mailer: The Bat! (v4.0.7) Professional Organization: Ed Lesnichy X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1906166367.20090329130528@dx.ru> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 1.3 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.332 Subject: LF: SO5AS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear LF enthusiasts! SO5AS in DFCW10 O on 695-705 now Some traces abt 700-710 73! Ed RU6LA 136.73.ru From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df11.mx.aol.com (rly-df11.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.24]) by air-df08.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDF081-58d49c532ae130; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 14:32:29 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df11.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF116-58d49c532ae130; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 14:32:16 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ll5yw-0007ez-Oi for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 18:31:42 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ll5yw-0007eq-9R for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 18:31:42 +0000 Received: from mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.49]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ll5yv-0004xa-GT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 18:31:42 +0000 Received: from aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20090321183136.JSCY7670.mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 18:31:36 +0000 Received: from [192.168.2.33] (really [82.22.242.113]) by aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vG.2.02.00.01 201-2161-120-102-20060912) with ESMTP id <20090321183132.ICYT2093.aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@[192.168.2.33]> for ; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 18:31:32 +0000 From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 18:30:50 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <49C5325A.22986.1014C1A@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=9YlaCzn6_68A:10 a=mnWSVFK04axs9LhHt9QA:9 a=AzK11ZI3D-3Qy0GRY58Hy0GCdo4A:4 a=oltX7JrCFroA:10 a=gmBXsakOPyV2O1YJ9SEA:9 a=MdMqCQolhZec9jNJ9i0A:7 a=wvUPgo-O_qWxDqAi5O86zSlTwtEA:4 a=XF7b4UCPwd8A:10 a=eKaowXAGgIVeDst4p04A:9 a=vjLrL10YEYB-KPBeeTuu50KadQ8A:4 a=bC4pTEGzVWIA:10 a=KQqxNPgzF0kA:10 a=am5SO3mGNG2t3aKa:18 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Content-type: Multipart/Mixed; boundary=Message-Boundary-13112 Subject: LF: More 136kHz activity X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Message-Boundary-13112 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Content-Description: Mail message body A busy day today on 136kHz. In addition to my earlier report is PA3CPM whose QRSS3 was audible. I also managed to work OE5ODL (952km) who finally popped out of the noise at 1715UTC. We exchanged 'M' reports (my 26th country 2-way on 136kHz) before local QRM shut the band down. OE has been on my 'most wanted' list for several years. Attached is the clearest part of his transmission. Mike, G3XDV ========== --Message-Boundary-13112 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Description: Attachment information. The following section of this message contains a file attachment prepared for transmission using the Internet MIME message format. If you are using Pegasus Mail, or any other MIME-compliant system, you should be able to save it or view it from within your mailer. If you cannot, please ask your system administrator for assistance. ---- File information ----------- File: OE5ODL-21mar2009.jpg Date: 21 Mar 2009, 18:23 Size: 7231 bytes. 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rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 08:15:32 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LjUSS-0001HC-3P for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 08:15:32 +0000 Received: from smtp5-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.5]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LjUSP-0000P8-Fk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 08:15:32 +0000 Received: from smtp5-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp5-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id E20D6D4814B for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 09:15:26 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp5-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id D047DD48074 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 09:15:23 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <49BF5C1C.30108@online.fr> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 09:15:24 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: [137 kHz] LF T/A , XGJ , XKO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello LF , Very good copy WD2XGJ and WD2XKO last night . Thank you Warren and Dex for beaconning 73 qro Jean-Pierre F1AFJ http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da02.mx.aol.com (rly-da02.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.76]) by air-da01.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA013-a5649ca3a3a2e; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 10:06:21 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da02.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA026-a5649ca3a3a2e; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 10:05:48 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LmTjD-0008ES-ID for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 14:05:11 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LmTjD-0008EJ-3o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 14:05:11 +0000 Received: from mailout06.t-online.de ([194.25.134.19]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LmTjB-0006nN-6V for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 14:05:11 +0000 Received: from fwd06.aul.t-online.de by mailout06.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 1LmTj6-0006KL-05; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:05:04 +0100 Received: from [192.168.2.22] (SmG1STZG8hS2MMJAxNZD4k6KdDJbts2AmIcJPxpXIJV9AQff2UKK1Zv0yoWLZ89QqZ@[93.196.61.110]) by fwd06.t-online.de with esmtp id 1LmTgt-2JSr0S0; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:02:47 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de References: In-Reply-To: To: X-Mailer: T-Online eMail 6.07.0001 Date: 25 Mar 2009 14:02 GMT Message-ID: <1LmTgt-2JSr0S0@fwd06.t-online.de> X-ID: SmG1STZG8hS2MMJAxNZD4k6KdDJbts2AmIcJPxpXIJV9AQff2UKK1Zv0yoWLZ89QqZ X-TOI-MSGID: 3ddeee6c-74d6-4194-bae5-391fb69e66e8 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: TDA2003, TDA2030 for PA? Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative; Boundary="__Next_1237989744_Part49__" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_EXPERIENCE,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --__Next_1237989744_Part49__ Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit Dear Petr, I have just built an LF amplifier using a TBA810S to drive my antenna metering bridge. Output has been 3,5 watts at 136 kHz and 15 volts supply voltage. 500 kHz was not on the table at that time, therefore no experiences on that band. In general one has to experiment with the capacitors setting the upper frequency response to make them as low in capacity as feasible. I have also bought some other AF ICs to follow these ideas but have never taken the time to try them, sri. OK? 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB "Petr Malý" schrieb: Hi all, My intention is to build a small transmitter up to some 10W for 136 and 505 kHz, this time not the D class, but B or AB class. I think of employing AF amplifiers such as TDA2003, TDA2030, or similar. Of course, mainly 505 kHz is rather out of range so that nothing is guaranteed. This is why I ask before experimenting. Did anybody try to use these for 136/505 kHz? Tks, 73, Petr, OK!FIG http://ok1fig.nagano.cz --__Next_1237989744_Part49__ Content-Type: Text/HTML; Charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit T-Online eMail Dear Petr,

I have just built an LF amplifier using a TBA810S to drive my antenna metering bridge. Output has been 3,5 watts at 136 kHz and 15 volts supply voltage. 500 kHz was not on the table at that time, therefore no experiences on that band.

In general one has to experiment with the capacitors setting the upper frequency response to make them as low in capacity as feasible.

I have also bought some other AF ICs to follow these ideas but have never taken the time to try them, sri.

OK?

73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB


  "Petr Malý" <p.maly@gmc.net> schrieb:
Hi all,
 
My intention is to build a small transmitter up to some 10W for 136 and 505 kHz, this time not the D class, but B or AB class.
I think of employing AF amplifiers such as TDA2003, TDA2030, or similar. Of course, mainly 505 kHz is rather out of range so that nothing is guaranteed. This is why I ask before experimenting.
Did anybody try to use these for 136/505 kHz?
 
Tks, 73, Petr, OK!FIG
 
 
 
--__Next_1237989744_Part49__-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc06.mx.aol.com (rly-dc06.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.35]) by air-dc10.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDC102-b2549aa633b2df; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 05:28:19 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc06.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC061-b2549aa633b2df; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 05:28:15 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lditp-0000Jv-P4 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 10:27:57 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lditp-0000Jm-EE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 10:27:57 +0000 Received: from mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.47]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ldito-0005Di-Ji for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 10:27:57 +0000 Received: from aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20090301102750.ZHPW2989.mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com>; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 10:27:50 +0000 Received: from [192.168.2.33] (really [82.22.242.113]) by aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vG.2.02.00.01 201-2161-120-102-20060912) with ESMTP id <20090301102750.UGLZ2093.aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@[192.168.2.33]>; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 10:27:50 +0000 From: "Mike Dennison" To: "Scholz, Marco " , rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 10:27:44 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <49AA6320.23188.3FA4D8@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> In-reply-to: References: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-description: Mail message body X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=9YlaCzn6_68A:10 a=kyJbQFBkL44RCUL5zY0A:9 a=x9SJddiZkUliZcXxhNIWuiCLY4YA:4 a=vNGxQsTWjH8A:10 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: QRV 137.700 KHz Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Marco, I saw you on DF6NM's grabber yesterday calling me on QRSS3, and saw DK4U working you this morning (1/3), but I cannot see a trace of your signal here. Please let me know if you want to try a QRSS10 test. Mike, G3XDV ========== > I calling CQ the next 2 hours on +/- 137.700Khz in QRSS3 (every > 10min.). Later from 10-11pm UTC in QRSS60 on +/- 137.778KHz. Any > report is very welcome. I will be QRV also tomorrow morning. > > vy73 > Marco > DD7PC > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc10.mx.aol.com (rly-dc10.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.39]) by air-dc01.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDC014-b4649b823375a; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 16:46:51 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc10.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC102-b4649b823375a; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 16:46:49 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LhVJM-0003Zo-OX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 20:45:56 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LhVJM-0003Zf-Dh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 20:45:56 +0000 Received: from mail-bw0-f164.google.com ([209.85.218.164]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LhVJK-0001vg-LG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 20:45:56 +0000 Received: by bwz8 with SMTP id 8so179966bwz.4 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 13:45:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=PbrhtkhnjpTh7gf1mzOKQq6ha40jHhlkuLNGHVcpYgY=; b=nWEr6+0CMz3wNkyxGqN/URDr9Dn7nu8XpVK3unQi6+LcIKVimj3KzheKLncX2XZrEK k5Deyg95CYXaD5XtxM5oYJJ15kMmXRtXRWGKBi7V+WolySt6LAu8n7TaDf3qKfVQ6WWP YugBYDMdZ73Fna//jtQJ+XYVU3SYe69QU4BPU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=WMPpwzbT/U8HQO1WBpjkDhpkz747Pry6jgAzaGXHDmp65hYvcs7QiKCL9TwSD+qD1U sXi6mfXo38H1HNY6dac0i01c0TByCVh+DGa9LF9haLx4cUceo51p/y3ihY084zcd95AZ Fmr0+lbxGuL9p37qshEHBrrlQYakJ/+fSMDdw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.109.148 with SMTP id j20mr6746930fap.43.1236804347933; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 13:45:47 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 20:45:47 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_SHORT_LENGTH=0.629 Subject: LF: Test Only Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5b54fd0b62c0464ddf3d4 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m254.2 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : fail X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --001636c5b54fd0b62c0464ddf3d4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just testing Googlemail may be playing-up --001636c5b54fd0b62c0464ddf3d4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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--001636c5b54fd0b62c0464ddf3d4-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd07.mx.aol.com (rly-dd07.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.154]) by air-dd05.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDD052-b8e49b2592a2f0; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 06:23:31 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd07.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD078-b8e49b2592a2f0; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 06:23:24 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LfucL-00030n-HX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 11:22:57 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LfucK-00030e-Vd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 11:22:56 +0000 Received: from cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.43]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LfucH-0004rl-Uf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 11:22:56 +0000 Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (smtpshost01.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.74]) by cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B6087B8043 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 12:22:46 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF10631E704 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 12:22:45 +0100 (CET) Received: from webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.242.4]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id D376C31E703 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 12:22:45 +0100 (CET) Received: by webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 643095D64; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 12:22:46 +0100 (CET) Received: from 212.94-200-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (212.94-200-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [80.200.94.212]) by webmail4.kuleuven.be (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 12:22:46 +0100 Message-ID: <20090307122246.s1brm6bta0yswk0s@webmail4.kuleuven.be> Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2009 12:22:46 +0100 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <1DF611251F48450DB34200591E4F2D0D@radiorummet> In-Reply-To: <1DF611251F48450DB34200591E4F2D0D@radiorummet> MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 80.200.94.212 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: DI2AG daytime Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=_2drwrav5ix34" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --=_2drwrav5ix34 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Weak daytime copy of DI2AG in JO20ix (481km). 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My E-mail sent itself when I pressed return. Does it always do this? I was trying to add that gales are forecast for 28th March, so I may not be able to erect mast. If I cannot transmit, I will put a message on here about 09.00 GMT. Regards, Harry G3MFW --00163649a73d638397046616687a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sorry,=A0 I'm still struggling with the internet! My E-mail sent itself=20= when I pressed return. Does it always do this? I was trying to add that gale= s are forecast for 28th March, so I may not be able to erect mast. If I cann= ot transmit, I will put a message on here about 09.00 GMT. Regards, Harry G3= MFW
--00163649a73d638397046616687a-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg05.mx.aol.com (rly-dg05.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.89]) by air-dg04.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDG043-5ca49c2d9cb33a; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 19:48:36 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg05.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG057-5ca49c2d9cb33a; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 19:48:29 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LkRxf-0003K3-OS for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 23:47:43 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LkRxf-0003Ju-2u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 23:47:43 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.151] helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LkRxd-00015D-6e for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 23:47:43 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3538.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id B76BB1C00082 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 00:47:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.19.47]) by mwinf3538.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 60C921C00081 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 00:47:25 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20090319234725396.60C921C00081@mwinf3538.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <49DDD88A06BE43DBA2F7802B96135671@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <007501c9a883$81d23930$6401a8c0@asus> In-Reply-To: <007501c9a883$81d23930$6401a8c0@asus> Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 23:47:24 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8064.206 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8064.206 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 503.700KHz Beacon G0NBD testing in the green slot Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0099_01C9A8ED.0D9899F0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0099_01C9A8ED.0D9899F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just testing in the green slot , 5 second pulse at 6 mins - 25 seconds=20 qrt expected 0030 hrs gmt / poss 0045=20 Tnx G ..=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0099_01C9A8ED.0D9899F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Just testing in the  green slot , 5=20 second  pulse at 6 mins - 25 seconds
 
qrt expected  0030 hrs gmt / poss = ; 0045=20
 
Tnx G ..

 
<= /DIV> ------=_NextPart_000_0099_01C9A8ED.0D9899F0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md08.mx.aol.com (rly-md08.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.146]) by air-md01.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD013-91a49ce0202326; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 06:55:19 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md08.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD082-91a49ce0202326; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 06:55:00 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LnWB7-0004cN-VO for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 10:54:17 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LnWB7-0004cE-Ja for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 10:54:17 +0000 Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com ([209.85.146.176]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LnWB5-0007eS-NG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 10:54:17 +0000 Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id l24so809520waf.4 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 03:54:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=lvWeQBBV5yNCEJoVGLHnI9POBJ2HmB5QqBUsGL3kLLE=; b=aQI1Xw/pDLaTnWYNmRGr7T3YexIBtv2o9yv2UO5fhMtAU/KULjhWJ9kJE71Tcp5CUo WAcFOcHKLTIehrPfeaXULiIvKA98XeTIf5lkbQ3h4x9VN1SOLjjmZV1TCxldw7ieX8oQ WrraVWECZkxJ6IXmRMWCrdt3QnmArN3mHvjV8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=cnZ2yTSrez7Ba1MhXFT61VGQhsEc7oQ0cyn4ezWs+kjEyrxoPP3vW0YaVhwm6pM/4j ZTh3dtYo1MqWNJEWsbD8ljOxxgsx5AwfH5eulGIs1hw9V2hZPn0Kx7hpPnESUu5M9qkC DthFdc058cQ917v0nmzy1tgdfOK2DpAy5dpsU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.114.125.15 with SMTP id x15mr2092090wac.217.1238237653373; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 03:54:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <200903281104270721.54188600@smtp.wanadoo.fr> References: <200903281104270721.54188600@smtp.wanadoo.fr> Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 10:54:13 +0000 Message-ID: <5931f8db0903280354x1167877k42ddff937450c6b7@mail.gmail.com> From: Harry Woodhouse To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: 137: 'MFW' 20dB SNR, '?E5ODL' 15dB SNR Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636457d9e7a215204662babe7 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d260.1 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --001636457d9e7a215204662babe7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit John, many thanks, Terrible gales today, could not erect mast, reduced power. regards, Harry, G3MFW On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 10:04 AM, John RABSON wrote: > At 1000z > > 73 F5VLF > > > > > --001636457d9e7a215204662babe7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable John, many thanks, Terrible gales today, could not erect mast, reduced power= . regards, Harry, G3MFW

On Sat, Mar 28, 20= 09 at 10:04 AM, John RABSON <john.rabson@wanadoo.fr> wrote:
At 1000z

73 F5VLF





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boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00C0_01C99AB6.930B5A90" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.9 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_50_60, HTML_MESSAGE,LINES_OF_YELLING,LINES_OF_YELLING_2 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_00C0_01C99AB6.930B5A90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable QSL SURE WALTER VIA E-MAIL 090302 0154 7 -24 1.1 0.505090 DI2AG JN59 30 =20 090302 0200 6 -24 1.0 0.505089 DI2AG JN59 30 =20 These were best two plus lots of remnants but no decodes... TNX from Dave @ AA1A ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Walter und Marianne Staubach=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 12:17 PM Subject: LF: WSPR on 600m Dear All on MF, DI2AG will transmit WSPR tonight. Beginning 18UTC, ending 7UTC.=20 Dial frequency 503.6KHz, beacon on 505.090KHz. Power 1W ERP. Reports welco= me. Please report on WSPRnet.org or this reflector. 73 Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF ------=_NextPart_000_00C0_01C99AB6.930B5A90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
QSL SURE WALTER VIA E-MAIL
 
 
090302 0154   7 -24  1.1 &nb= sp;=20 0.505090  DI2AG JN59=20 30          
090302=20 0200   6 -24  1.0   0.505089  DI2AG JN59=20 30   
 
 
These were best two plus lots of remnants but no= =20 decodes...
 
TNX from Dave @ AA1A
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 12:17=20 PM
Subject: LF: WSPR on 600m

Dear All on MF,
       = ; DI2AG=20 will transmit WSPR tonight. Beginning 18UTC, ending 7UTC.
Dial frequency 503.6KHz, beacon on 505.09= 0KHz.=20 Power 1W ERP. Reports welcome. Please report on WSPRnet.org or this=20 reflector.
 
73  Walter  DI2AG / DJ2LF
 
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_00C0_01C99AB6.930B5A90-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (rly-ma08.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.52]) by air-ma01.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMA012-8c249bff06616b; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 14:48:29 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA084-8c249bff06616b; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 14:48:08 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LjeKO-0005WF-JS for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 18:47:52 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LjeKO-0005W6-4d for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 18:47:52 +0000 Received: from smtp2-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.2]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LjeKL-0004ND-OJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 18:47:52 +0000 Received: from smtp2-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp2-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B0D34B012C for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 19:47:46 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp2-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ED5B4B01B8 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 19:47:44 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <49BFF04F.9000401@online.fr> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 19:47:43 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <200903171918350875.1D3716BA@smtp.wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <200903171918350875.1D3716BA@smtp.wanadoo.fr> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: F1AFJ 15dB over QRN+LX on 137 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello John, Thank you for the report , I carry out just some tests to validate my=20 concept of antenna! Warren, I transmits on 137705 in QRSS3 with 300W, I will hold you with=20 the current when I am ready to try the transtlantique one. 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj John RABSON a =E9crit : > At 1811z > > John Rabson=20 > F5VLF > 58800 Cervon > France > JN17vg > > > > > > > =20 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf05.mx.aol.com (rly-mf05.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.175]) by air-mf05.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMF051-95c49afd2b38f; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 08:25:23 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf05.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF052-95c49afd2b38f; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 08:25:09 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LfDZR-0003KH-0V for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 13:25:05 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LfDZQ-0003K8-Kb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 13:25:04 +0000 Received: from mail-qy0-f103.google.com ([209.85.221.103]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LfDZP-0007DL-U1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 13:25:04 +0000 Received: by qyk1 with SMTP id 1so65785qyk.30 for ; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 05:24:57 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=JajQr/dcptOiYoBIPxucVJbWDHK20o6Z91wdMWWp6b0=; b=aqtQa2GmT48GXzeG+h8678nU1IslJlWKNaIfJAMBvyi3rcyMfGUidtNWgWcsED73/C zGiPNVH01M4QEXX30DMytkwJASU4jPEWtS6GG/Tf7SckZ7nIUw0WhPwF2NtUSCT3T8Xx 7VyZx593Wbt6sTH4giJI2JXuWAk2i9pnuI484= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Aj1T3IqInLx/+ve69p+t/g6dQbJAzQoVBXW7buxOW7MZrdgTXdCV/L3LoKDC6ODePC pwlBqpJiXrVPoR+9X8NR+RzPHaufwx/ufmAgjJXxfV4kn4vzUpInDf02JsJIsL6yWlzl 0sNeC4iFFzbrspd8zyYDNMxXglVbnEScQTWMw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.28.129 with SMTP id m1mr1730705qac.369.1236259497043; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 05:24:57 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 08:24:57 -0500 Message-ID: <57a24ca70903050524v4f163b2ahdc0459ac8d6bb121@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: Re: LF: XGJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d301.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Lubos, Thank you for the report! XGJ will be off tonight. --=20 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 2009/3/5 Lubos OK2BVG : > Hello Warren, LF! > Band was very noisy, I saw some traces of XGJ only. > > Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS > > ________________________________ > St=E1hn=ECte si zcela nov=FD Messenger 2009! Klikni zde! From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (rly-dd04.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.151]) by air-dd02.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDD022-b7449b1841e4a; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 15:14:45 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD046-b7449b1841e4a; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 15:14:24 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LfgQQ-0000dj-OH for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 20:13:42 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LfgQQ-0000da-6W for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 20:13:42 +0000 Received: from mail-fx0-f174.google.com ([209.85.220.174]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LfgQO-000577-Lh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 20:13:42 +0000 Received: by fxm22 with SMTP id 22so604379fxm.4 for ; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 12:13:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ddwRGYeYVi4d2psu5zlatd3jytnf/vbu8aG0uLAQj8U=; b=Xa62K+0AQg2YvFCiq5n3fTSrxmZ+D0ABhIC635fExDfpiz8rKVFxsofz3zXR+Uhp+i 0wSO81+QmcgiUQ+nkN7UNXbWx/0JeejXQJTwXTMQ0I8tlIAxxh862AiKWZ0y/poZIO1t 7sCh7L2H4BrTLhLnq964tkRioQNTVWsnhmQB0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=rXcBAvFkoVYdnLbDAdReCDzwkNjeFd7VdEbmp6/kiqSEwbiZBEpOJnFznkFfAqIHCN 05oIpcavvjtWPuF/pdotSmgwPOIsSvU/jNcddGH3rlWT1jIGdMVRwHqw6BqfjeZoiCaw hDhvCJCel0YGZBE5Xh1H8P24jz841AhETbJB8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.119.5 with SMTP id x5mr2385583faq.40.1236370412991; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 12:13:32 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <0566EF6DE20B4249A3E74859BF9BA2C6@AGB> <9C03FBF153AB478A9B0DBC5580CF20D2@AGB> Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 20:13:32 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Multi-function beacon Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5a8d14713e9046478ebb8 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d278.1 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --001636c5a8d14713e9046478ebb8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Not strictly - Look at it in th efreqeuncy domain. A 500us pulse has its first zero at 2000/pi = 637Hz, so most of the energy is within 1300Hz bandwidth, and a substantial part will pass though the Rx filter. It will be extended in time and flattenned, but the detection algorithm finds the peak, in effect applying an inverse transform of the SSB filter. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com > > Nb the pulse width , 500uS .. that's a bit sharp for a ssb filter , > only 1.5 cycles at 3 Khz ... ? > > > > > --001636c5a8d14713e9046478ebb8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Not strictly -
Look at it in th efreqeuncy domain.=A0 A 500us pulse has its first zero= at 2000/pi =3D 637Hz, so most of the energy is within 1300Hz bandwidth, and= =A0a substantial part will pass though the Rx filter.=A0 It will be extended= in time and flattenned, but the detection algorithm finds the peak, in effe= ct applying an inverse transform of the SSB filter.

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boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01C9AF9A.5FA51AD0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.8 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_50_60, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C9AF9A.5FA51AD0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Walter, I set the RX last night and came back to find high white noise masking ALL E= U signals, not a trace of any... Will set the traps tonight again... TNX Dave @ /17 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Walter und Marianne Staubach=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2009 9:38 AM Subject: LF: DI2AG WSPR Dear All on MF,=20 DI2AG is still running in WSPR, 0.5W ERP on 505.090KHz. TNX to G= 0HNW for his numerous reports last night and also to F4DTL and DJ6LB. DI2AG=20= will be transmitting continually throughout day and night until Monday morni= ng. Your reports - also daylight propagation - are welcome via WSPR database= or by e-mail. Thanks a lot.=20 73 Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C9AF9A.5FA51AD0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Walter,
 
I set the RX last night and came back to find hi= gh=20 white noise masking ALL EU signals, not a trace of any...
 
Will set the traps tonight=20 again...
 
TNX
 
Dave @ /17
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2009 9:38= =20 AM
Subject: LF: DI2AG WSPR

Dear All on MF,
      &n= bsp;   DI2AG is still=20 running in WSPR, 0.5W ERP on 505.090KHz. TNX to G0HNW for his numerous rep= orts=20 last night and also to F4DTL and DJ6LB. DI2AG will be transmitting continu= ally=20 throughout day and night until Monday morning. Your reports - also dayligh= t=20 propagation - are welcome via WSPR database or by e-mail. Thanks a lot.=20
73
Walter DI2AG /=20 DJ2LF
------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C9AF9A.5FA51AD0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc04.mx.aol.com (rly-dc04.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.33]) by air-dc07.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDC074-b1a49bec85412c; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 17:45:19 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc04.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC046-b1a49bec85412c; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 17:44:53 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LjKbu-0006nL-In for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 21:44:38 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LjKbt-0006nC-Gx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 21:44:37 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-3-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.54]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LjKbq-0002Hu-EC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 21:44:37 +0000 X-Trace: 165001531/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.59.96/None/g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.59.96 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Microsoft Office Outlook 11Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ah0IADplvklYajtg/2dsb2JhbACCJC1TRIU5fYNciGe+RAeCLoFKBoc2 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,375,1233532800"; d="scan'208,217";a="165001531" Received: from 88-106-59-96.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.59.96]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 16 Mar 2009 21:44:30 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <009001c9a588$7eb02c60$6401a8c0@asus> <00e001c9a5a7$f07216a0$6401a8c0@asus> <826BA6086575402A8C87062492069F5A@AGB> <004501c9a623$a4bf81d0$6401a8c0@asus> <2ED02F4327204E3C903828F9E18AA72B@AGB> <001e01c9a665$ebeac870$6401a8c0@asus> <00be01c9a66e$c8bfdbc0$0900a8c0@AM> <004a01c9a677$2a8b48a0$6401a8c0@asus> <005101c9a679$df148f50$6401a8c0@asus> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 21:44:30 -0000 Message-ID: <005f01c9a680$636296c0$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AcmmfuCJOLBY/rPFSW65Ert93bteswAAJ4sQ X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0060_01C9A680.636296C0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNSAFE,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0060_01C9A680.636296C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Andy, I inserted 10dB for the 2104 Tx & then 20dB but at the 2119 Tx there was a very deep fade (QSB) which I also noted on a separate Rx. I will leave it at 20dB for a longer period. Recent levels as below :- 20:45 65.81 40.29 -240.0 1499.7 20:46 43.87 40.29 -240.0 0.0 20:47 43.36 40.29 -240.0 0.0 21:00 58.08 32.23 -240.0 1499.8 21:01 37.72 32.23 -240.0 0.0 21:02 34.32 32.23 -240.0 0.0 21:15 32.47 25.55 -240.0 0.0 21:16 28.19 25.55 -240.0 0.0 21:17 31.14 25.55 -240.0 0.0 21:30 58.90 27.07 -240.0 1499.7 21:31 28.89 27.07 -240.0 0.0 21:32 28.86 27.07 -240.0 0.0 Cheers, Gary. _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Andy Talbot Sent: 16 March 2009 21:03 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software Don't destroy your noise figure though. But at HF you can probably get away with 20 dB at least. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/3/16 Gary - G4WGT Andy, OK, I will insert an attenuator at the antenna socket (that's an easy move) & watch how it performs. It is switched at 10dB steps so I will start at 10db of course. Cheers, Gary. _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Andy Talbot Sent: 16 March 2009 20:45 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software Doesn't matter which - just total system gain. That S/W works best if the noise threshold rides at about 10dB above the baseline, then it allows for up to 70 - 80dB of signal peaks. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/3/16 Gary - G4WGT Alan, When you wrote :- my only comment is that you may have too much gain in the system. Are you meaning sound card or receiver gain? Gary. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Alan Melia Sent: 16 March 2009 19:38 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software Hi Gary my only comment is that you may have too much gain in the system. It is sometimes better to have the noise further down nearer the axis. I am afraid there is a major problem with this kind of beacon, when the fading period is shorter than the sampling interval, so you dont really know what the path is doing. The only reliable points are the peaks, the troughs dont really mean anything without some very sophisticated analysis and probably two spaced receivers. However it does give a snapshot of the band without taking up too much bandwidth (this was what was required for 5MHz too). Despite all the data collected very little analysis has actually be done on the 5MHz data collected by this program. The one succesfull bit of work was that published in Radcom by Marcis Walden G0IJZ. I used it for some time whilst Andy was testing the Poldhu beacon on 160m and also during the 1st two months that ran. I was certainly surprised by the daytime path on 160m from here. I have seen the data collected in Canada via Joe Craig VO1NA and it is difficult to see how to use it. Still if you dont collect the data you will never know!! Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 6:35 PM Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software > Hi Graham, LF, > > > > The original HTML Code for the 2 minute refresh is still inserted into the > page format, so upload is 30 minute intervals with Syncback & 2 minute > refresh. I have left the refresh in case I revert back to the original > grabber page. I will look at changing it if I continue to use the beacon > chart upload. > > > > I would like to have feedback from the LF group regarding the page, if you > check it out periodically, is it useful to you, what are you looking for. > > > > You can view the chart on my web site at :- > > > > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html > > > > 73 > > > > Gary - G4WGT. > > > > > > _____ > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham > Sent: 16 March 2009 17:20 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > Hi Gary, > > > > The page seemed to refresh quite often ... are there two settings ? > > > > G .. > > > > From: Gary - G4WGT > > Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:40 AM > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > Hi Graham, LF, > > > > You wrote :- > > >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute > intervals. <<< that could be backed off to 15 mins as the beacon only > sends every 15 ?? > > > > I mentioned in my previous mail to ignore the text on the page as it was > originally for grabber 1 for when I upgrade the web site (to a new design & > better navigation etc), also mentioned is that upload is every 30 minutes. > > > > If the uploaded chart proves useful or interesting to operators & viewers > then I will change the text & make it a permanent feature for the > foreseeable future. > > > > BTW :- > > > > For those of you who are not familiar with the chart - > > > > The RED trace is Andy's (G4JNT) beacon signal & the BLACK trace is the noise > level at my QTH. > > > > The Blue & GREEN are not in use & should be ignored on this chart as they > are for the other beacons used when monitoring on the 5MHz allocation. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Gary - G4WGT > > > > > > _____ > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham > Sent: 15 March 2009 22:17 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > Gary.. > > > > That looks good ... 0500 looks best time for a qso .. see you then Smile > emoticon > > > > >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute > intervals. <<< that could be backed off to 15 mins as the beacon only > sends every 15 ?? > > > > the 15 db over the noise in day time is the same at this qth .. looks like > the big dips round 1900 where just when we where testing .. typical hihi > > > > tnx- G .. > > > > From: Gary - G4WGT > > Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 7:55 PM > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > Subject: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > LF, > > > > I have now got the software, Syncback running correctly (I think). > > > > The purpose of this is to upload the chart from Andy's beacon as received > here to my web site periodically, ie. every 30 minutes. > > > > I now have a receiver running 24/7 monitoring Andy,s beacon on 503.7KHz. > > > > You can view the chart on my web site at :- > > > > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html > > > > For the moment ignore the text on the page as it is originally designed to > use with the 500KHz grabber when I renew my web site design. If it is a > useful upload I will make it a permanent feature but may have to extend the > frequency coverage of grabber 1 so not to overload the PC with operations > which will cause the PC to struggle. > > > > Let me have your comments please. > > > > 73 > > > > Gary - G4WGT. > > > > _____ > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT > Sent: 15 March 2009 16:10 > To: LF -RSGB LF Group > Subject: LF: Syncback software > > > > Hi LF, > > > > If anyone is using Syncback software & can help, please. > > > > I am tying to upload a file to my website who's filename does not change, > only the file size changes. I tried to do it with Argo-upload but failed so > I downloaded Syncback & still failing. > > > > Syncback gives me the following message :- > > > > ********************************** > > Can connect, but unable to change to destination directory: > > /chart01.bmp:not a directory > > ********************************** > > The Syncback help does not give me the answer. > > > > Any help will be appreciated > > > > Or > > > > Will Argo-Upload do it? > > > > Or > > > > Is there something else to do it? > > > > Thanks in anticipation, > > > > 73, > > > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. > > > > _____ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.13/2001 - Release Date: 03/14/09 > 06:54:00 > > _____ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.15/2003 - Release Date: 03/15/09 > 14:07:00 > > ------=_NextPart_000_0060_01C9A680.636296C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Andy,

&nb= sp;

I inserted 10dB for the 2104 Tx & then 20dB but at the 2119 Tx there was a very deep fade (QSB) which I also noted on a separate Rx. I will leave it at 20dB for a longer period.

&nb= sp;

Recent l= evels as below :-

&nb= sp;

20:45&nb= sp; 65.81  40.29  -240.0  1499.7

20:46&nb= sp; 43.87  40.29  -240.0  0.0

20:47&nb= sp; 43.36  40.29  -240.0  0.0

21:00&nb= sp; 58.08  32.23  -240.0  1499.8

21:01&nb= sp; 37.72  32.23  -240.0  0.0

21:02&nb= sp; 34.32  32.23  -240.0  0.0

21:15&nb= sp; 32.47  25.55  -240.0  0.0

21:16&nb= sp; 28.19  25.55  -240.0  0.0

21:17&nb= sp; 31.14  25.55  -240.0  0.0

21:30&nb= sp; 58.90  27.07  -240.0  1499.7

21:31&nb= sp; 28.89  27.07  -240.0  0.0

21:32&nb= sp; 28.86  27.07  -240.0  0.0

&nb= sp;

Cheers,&= nbsp; Gary.

&nb= sp;

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Andy Talbot
Sent: 16 March 2009 21:03
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software

 

Don't destroy your noise figure though.  But at HF y= ou can probably get away with 20 dB at least.


Andy  G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com

2009/3/16 Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>

Andy,

 <= o:p>

OK, I will insert an atte= nuator at the antenna socket (that’s an easy move) & watch how it perform= s. It is switched at 10dB steps so I will start at 10db of course.

 <= o:p>

Cheers,=

 <= o:p>

Gary.

 <= o:p>

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Andy Talbot
Sent: 16 March 2009 20:45


To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software

=  

= Doesn't matter which - just total system gain.  That S/W works best if the nois= e threshold rides at about 10dB above the baseline,  then it allows for u= p to 70 - 80dB of signal peaks.


Andy  G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com

= 2009/3/16 Gary - G4WGT <g4= wgt@tiscali.co.uk>

= Alan,

When you wrote :-

my only comment is that you may have too much= gain in the system.

= Are you meaning sound card or receiver gain?

Gary.

=

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org

= [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Alan Melia
Sent: 16 March 2009 19:38

To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software

Hi Gary=20= my only comment is that you may have too much gain in the system. It
is sometimes better to have the noise further down nearer the axis.

I am afraid there is a major problem with this kind of beacon, when the
fading period is shorter than the sampling interval, so you dont really know=
what the path is doing. The only reliable points are the peaks, the troughs<= br> dont really mean anything without some very sophisticated analysis and
probably two spaced receivers. However it does give a snapshot of the band without taking up too much bandwidth (this was what was required for 5MHz too). Despite all the data collected very little analysis has actually be done on the 5MHz data collected by this program. The one succesfull bit of work was that published in Radcom by Marcis Walden G0IJZ. I used it for some=
time whilst Andy was testing the Poldhu beacon on 160m and also during the 1st two months that ran. I was certainly surprised by the daytime path on 160m from here. I have seen the data collected in Canada via=20= Joe Craig VO1NA
and it is difficult to see how to use it.

Still if you dont collect the data you will never know!!

Alan G3NYK




----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
To: <rs= gb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 6:35 PM
Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software


> Hi Graham, LF,
>
>
>
> The original HTML Code for the 2 minute refresh is still inserted into=20= the
> page format, so upload is 30 minute intervals with Syncback & 2 min= ute
> refresh. I have left the refresh in case I revert back to the original<= br> > grabber page. I will look at changing it if I continue to use the beaco= n
> chart upload.
>
>
>
> I would like to have feedback from the LF group regarding the page, if=20= you
> check it out periodically, is it useful to you, what are you looking fo= r.
>
>
>
> You can view the chart on my web site at :-
>
>
>
> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html
>
>
>
> 73
>
>
>
> Gary - G4WGT.
>
>
>
>
>
>   _____
>
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham
> Sent: 16 March 2009 17:20
> To: r= sgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software
>
>
>
> Hi Gary,
>
>
>
> The page seemed to  refresh quite often ... are there two settings= ?
>
>
>
> G ..
>
>
>
> From: Gary - G4WGT <mailto:g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
>
> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:40 AM
>
> To: r= sgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>
> Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software
>
>
>
> Hi Graham, LF,
>
>
>
> You wrote :-
>
> >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute
> intervals. <<< that could be backed off to  15 mins as th= e beacon only
> sends every 15 ??
>
>
>
> I mentioned in my previous mail to ignore the text on the page as it wa= s
> originally for grabber 1 for when I upgrade the web site (to a new desi= gn
&
> better navigation etc), also mentioned is that upload is every 30 minut= es.
>
>
>
> If the uploaded chart proves useful or interesting to operators & viewers
> then I will change the text & make it a permanent feature for the > foreseeable future.
>
>
>
> BTW :-
>
>
>
> For those of you  who are not familiar with the chart -
>
>
>
> The RED trace is Andy's (G4JNT) beacon signal & the BLACK trace is=20= the
noise
> level at my QTH.
>
>
>
> The Blue & GREEN are not in use & should be ignored on this cha= rt as they
> are for the other beacons used when monitoring on the 5MHz allocation.<= br> >
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> Gary - G4WGT
>
>
>
>
>
>   _____
>
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham
> Sent: 15 March 2009 22:17
> To: r= sgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software
>
>
>
> Gary..
>
>
>
> That looks good  ... 0500 looks best time for a qso .. see you the= n Smile
> emoticon
>
>
>
> >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute
> intervals. <<< that could be backed off to  15 mins as th= e beacon only
> sends every 15 ??
>
>
>
> the  15 db over the noise in day time is the  same at this qt= h ... looks
like
> the big dips round 1900  where just when we where testing ..  typical hihi
>
>
>
> tnx- G ..
>
>
>
> From: Gary - G4WGT <mailto:g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
>
> Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 7:55 PM
>
> To: r= sgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>
> Subject: LF: RE: Syncback software
>
>
>
> LF,
>
>
>
> I have now got the software, Syncback running correctly (I think).
>
>
>
> The purpose of this is to upload the chart from Andy's beacon as receiv= ed
> here to my web site periodically, ie. every 30 minutes.
>
>
>
> I now have a receiver running 24/7 monitoring Andy,s beacon on 503.7KHz= .
>
>
>
> You can view the chart on my web site at :-
>
>
>
> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html
>
>
>
> For the moment ignore the text on the page as it is originally designed= to
> use with the 500KHz grabber when I renew my web site design. If it is a=
> useful upload I will make it a permanent feature but may have to extend=
the
> frequency coverage of grabber 1 so not to overload the PC with operatio= ns
> which will cause the PC to struggle.
>
>
>
> Let me have your comments please.
>
>
>
> 73
>
>
>
> Gary - G4WGT.
>
>
>
>   _____
>
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT
> Sent: 15 March 2009 16:10
> To: LF -RSGB LF Group
> Subject: LF: Syncback software
>
>
>
> Hi LF,
>
>
>
> If anyone is using Syncback software & can help, please.
>
>
>
> I am tying to upload a file to my website who's filename does not chang= e,
> only the file size changes. I tried to do it with Argo-upload but faile= d
so
> I downloaded Syncback & still failing.
>
>
>
> Syncback gives me the following message :-
>
>
>
> **********************************
>
> Can connect, but unable to change to destination directory:
>
> /chart01.bmp:not a directory
>
> **********************************
>
> The Syncback help does not give me the answer.
>
>
>
> Any help will be appreciated
>
>
>
> Or
>
>
>
> Will Argo-Upload do it?
>
>
>
> Or
>
>
>
> Is there something else to do it?
>
>
>
> Thanks in anticipation,
>
>
>
> 73,
>
>
>
> Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.
>
>
>
>   _____
>
>
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG - www.= avg.com
> Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.13/2001 - Release Date: 03/14= /09
> 06:54:00
>
>   _____
>
>
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG - www.= avg.com
> Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.15/2003 - Release Date: 03/15= /09
> 14:07:00
>
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------=_NextPart_000_0060_01C9A680.636296C0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg01.mx.aol.com (rly-mg01.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.107]) by air-mg07.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMG074-9f649bd288523e; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 12:10:59 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg01.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG018-9f649bd288523e; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 12:10:48 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lisue-0007NE-69 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 16:10:08 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lisud-0007N5-LR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 16:10:07 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-4-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.55]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lisua-0001oe-J0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 16:10:07 +0000 X-Trace: 163594701/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.59.96/None/g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.59.96 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Microsoft Office Outlook 11Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av8GAHTFvElYajtg/2dsb2JhbACCUVOFfX2DW8FqB4N4Bg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,367,1233532800"; d="scan'208,217";a="163594701" Received: from 88-106-59-96.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.59.96]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 15 Mar 2009 16:10:01 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF -RSGB LF Group" Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 16:10:01 -0000 Message-ID: <009001c9a588$7eb02c60$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AcmliH4qkADN0be3Q4OuHOueIGs6QA== X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Syncback software Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0091_01C9A588.7EB02C60" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0091_01C9A588.7EB02C60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi LF, If anyone is using Syncback software & can help, please. I am tying to upload a file to my website who's filename does not change, only the file size changes. I tried to do it with Argo-upload but failed so I downloaded Syncback & still failing. Syncback gives me the following message :- ********************************** Can connect, but unable to change to destination directory: /chart01.bmp:not a directory ********************************** The Syncback help does not give me the answer. Any help will be appreciated Or Will Argo-Upload do it? Or Is there something else to do it? Thanks in anticipation, 73, Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. ------=_NextPart_000_0091_01C9A588.7EB02C60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi LF,=

 =

If anyone is using Syncback sof= tware & can help, please.

 =

I am tying to upload a file to=20= my website who’s filename does not change, only the file size changes. I tried to= do it with Argo-upload but failed so I downloaded Syncback & still failing.=

 =

Syncback gives me the following= message :-

 =

*******************************= ***

Can connect, but unable to chan= ge to destination directory:

/chart01.bmp:not a directory

*******************************= ***

The Syncback help does not give= me the answer.

 =

Any help will be appreciated

 =

Or=

 =

Will Argo-Upload do it?

 =

Or=

 =

Is there something else to do i= t?

 =

Thanks in anticipation,

 =

73,

 

Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.=

 

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Check it out. =3D --_a3de4781-3512-41e2-9176-ab5e41596ebc_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg09.mx.aol.com (rly-dg09.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.93]) by air-dg03.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDG034-5ef49c3e6ec2cf; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 14:56:52 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg09.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG094-5ef49c3e6ec2cf; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 14:56:45 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LkjtI-0008Dx-HC for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 18:56:24 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LkjtI-0008Do-2v for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 18:56:24 +0000 Received: from mail-qy0-f107.google.com ([209.85.221.107]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LkjtF-00033g-VH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 18:56:24 +0000 Received: by qyk5 with SMTP id 5so1491007qyk.30 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 11:56:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=edcTOtAsE/aAE5dYZqnYqpb9J2rX95U7/BDjLyugM64=; b=SgOz69xEBlGDgx1xdDM/D9uOjBzMExDiMi83K0TjqZl55qlZBNW5f7zMkeU7PjI+RO ZQxKHjEEfSSC48jpZYS2fbEyj6Rcd1az3capB3sdcEPHz+yCmc8JCMsjyt+7PsznrY4x x4WJNSkdLYRKjHfD/YA3yXhhgZaUyjImxpzjg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=aK3ebIIzkSfYmslCV5kKZI0EBs/R2RDBSHEMztwZed9qVBM+AOsUDLu8uOY2oRPs73 tpISz3hVS3DqFGTw2hmUrcPmW5CEUfeMthjglPq2LeKair3eppaRmVWtUKWlDgV4u/D9 QE48I1V3nZlJR6yJajX3xmvBnBNiiCnpznvSY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.3.11 with SMTP id 11mr6097122qal.364.1237575374726; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 11:56:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <001401c9a984$a84d8680$0900a8c0@AM> References: <57a24ca70903200951x42ca0ee9rac2f6e87b975896c@mail.gmail.com> <001401c9a984$a84d8680$0900a8c0@AM> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 13:56:14 -0500 Message-ID: <57a24ca70903201156j2ed9c256le398e55c4a3d9c12@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Ropex Info? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m240.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Thanks Alan, I've sent an e-mail to Andre. BTW, the Ropex I have was one of the ones used in the AMRAD experiment. --=20 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 12:51 PM, Alan Melia wro= te: > Hi Warren Andre Kesteloot N1CK (?) might be be a good start. I think Andre > moved one to the AMRAD Part 5 frequency. I have aa feeling that there is a > web site with information on too ....may a PA0 cal ?? > > Alan G3NYK > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Warren Ziegler" > To: "rsgb_lf_group" > Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 4:51 PM > Subject: LF: Ropex Info? > > >> Hello the list, >> >> =A0 =A0 =A0I have just acquired a Ropex "The First" transmitter for 136kH= z - >> but without documentation of any kind. >> I know that Ropex did not supply anything more than a single sheet of >> instructions but I'm lacking even that. >> Questions: >> 1) Anyone have a copy of the instruction sheet that they could copy or > scan? >> 2) Any info on mods (injecting an external vfo for example)? >> 3) Anybody do any 'reverse engineering' of the circuit? >> >> Any info at all is much appreciated! >> >> -- >> 73 Warren K2ORS >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 WD2XGJ >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 WD2XSH/23 >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 WE2XEB/2 >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 WE2XGR/1 >> > > > --=20 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df12.mx.aol.com (rly-df12.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.25]) by air-df06.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDF062-59849b5193e192; Mon, 09 Mar 2009 09:27:37 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df12.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF127-59849b5193e192; Mon, 09 Mar 2009 09:27:27 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LgfVe-0005on-HG for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Mar 2009 13:27:10 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LgfVe-0005oe-6K for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Mar 2009 13:27:10 +0000 Received: from psmtp13.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.25]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LgfVc-0002wr-Gj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Mar 2009 13:27:10 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp13.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KG8006NHQP06H@psmtp13.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Mar 2009 14:27:00 +0100 (MET) Date: Mon, 09 Mar 2009 14:26:52 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <679F094B477F49958AEA8F20E9E4E6E3@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 184khz Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_lzPhO7aHc1dEt+Fj+VDcAw)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_lzPhO7aHc1dEt+Fj+VDcAw) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT nil for Joe, henny cpm 73s --Boundary_(ID_lzPhO7aHc1dEt+Fj+VDcAw) Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
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--Boundary_(ID_lzPhO7aHc1dEt+Fj+VDcAw)-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd10.mx.aol.com (rly-dd10.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.157]) by air-dd04.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDD042-ba649b637a03b1; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 05:49:43 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd10.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD108-ba649b637a03b1; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 05:49:21 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LgyZq-0001st-3L for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 09:48:46 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LgyZp-0001sk-Lf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 09:48:45 +0000 Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com ([209.85.146.181]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LgyZo-0005wa-Fo for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 09:48:45 +0000 Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id k22so1075095waf.4 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 02:48:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=RtWd/vj7LHSLHX3sVcJa5LJNEShBB6bVt9OzgQG6oDw=; b=XpxahtWJ85lym3cUZimecT342mx2jXaD37sRR03BOzyXTrVf23Xe3otvVG3ohZXAhA Q8aXIneV3TueL2vewx8mQUF8SfxS5aPlILXDrMY7MKe8YlW/bRbUc+wtchGNvfHP/dXE FgJPbWQ50IvNCCMwqovBF2wCq7igvtF7dE2mQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Ed9hYOsJTMijLGPlj8/U3TLj0UdlrhWZtzwf2eD7xD+yZ43F1rtITYB8nMZDYZMdmx wumUcx82jmDDfWb0d1OBSlgJgnbTCO1Ns+KNLCl6dE+p23NmvbRQQrmt4Ef8ixtkwSYp mybtFXFpBPqQw7hL9lb283kBd4MOL1einIe9s= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.115.110.6 with SMTP id n6mr4144946wam.227.1236678520678; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 02:48:40 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <8bf118410902200151y197b60fbjddf4acd6500e4b4a@mail.gmail.com> References: <8bf118410902200141m5f37c7dcv6736f876fdcfd3e1@mail.gmail.com> <8bf118410902200151y197b60fbjddf4acd6500e4b4a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 09:48:40 +0000 Message-ID: <5931f8db0903100248k30848559n7d80ce48e4227a9d@mail.gmail.com> From: Harry Woodhouse To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: test Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636457596ed28db0464c0a76a X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNSAFE,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m269.2 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --001636457596ed28db0464c0a76a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Dave, Thanks for all your trouble.I have now got a Google Mail address, and joined with no problems, but am overwhelmed by the volume of it!! Regards, Harry On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 9:51 AM, Dave Pick wrote: > Here is the error message: > > Reporting-MTA: dns; ttsmtp.cpwnetworks.com > > Final-Recipient: rfc822;majordomo@blacksheep.org > Action: failed > Status: 5.0.0 (permanent failure) > Remote-MTA: dns; [193.82.116.32] > Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 5.1.0 - Unknown address error 550-'This message > scored 5.3 spam points - rejected' (delivery attempts: 0) > > 2009/2/20 Dave Pick > > > > My last message didn't get through... does this work? > > Was trying to help a colleague who was having trouble subscribing to this > reflector, even though he was doing exactly the right thing his message was > being bounced by a spam filter. Is there any way round this? > > > > Dave. > > > > -- > > G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK > > > > -- > G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK > > --001636457596ed28db0464c0a76a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Dave, Thanks for all your trouble.I have now got a Google Mail address,= and joined with no problems, but am overwhelmed by the volume of it!!
= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0 Regards, Harry

On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 9:51 AM, Dave Pick <daveyxm@googlemail.com> wrote:<= br>
Here is the error message:

Reporting-MTA: dns; ttsmtp.cpwnetworks.com

Final-Recipient: rfc822= ;majordomo@blacksheep.org
Action: failed
Status: 5.0.0 (permanent failure)
Remote-MTA: dns; [193.82.116.32]
Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 5.1.0 - Unknown address error 550-'This message scored 5.3 spam points - rejected' (delivery attempts: 0)

2009/2/20 Dave Pick <daveyxm@go= oglemail.com>
>
> My last message didn't get through... does this work?
> Was trying to help a colleague who was having trouble subscribing to th= is reflector, even though he was doing exactly the right thing his message w= as being bounced by a spam filter. Is there any way round this?
>
> Dave.
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--001636457596ed28db0464c0a76a-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg01.mx.aol.com (rly-dg01.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.85]) by air-dg02.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDG024-5a149c523fa25b; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 13:29:51 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg01.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG016-5a149c523fa25b; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 13:29:32 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ll50U-0006o3-7G for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 17:29:14 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ll50T-0006nu-RU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 17:29:13 +0000 Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com ([209.85.146.177]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ll50Q-00076L-Qm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 17:29:13 +0000 Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id l24so934296waf.4 for ; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 10:28:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=VnLRlF1Xl1D1vWDe/1/xDNZB9aUbGHDpFYIC6rO8/SM=; b=Pz9J4XRhQDsA+sQRmGpYMIcejQEAX+818nxXkQkXZy6MMUsOm3SL5XjRyhFSpQDwjZ XG0uSsMcNb94unkUoO8jGqcjTc+qPER2CYff36N+//q98zko9+ACW4gdckj7wSkgsa9Q W1/PtF+6yeTHx3/0RaRBXzL22qQ76cV5JUj2I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=FAbDEmST72PxeK7JJKe/ZsyvAk9rNIxpRHsSUDBikLw9K9Fr9uQDM3ggUwk049Cgno oqDs0GvVgzpkyAw3UCGE9ZoOaZL5kjez51sqjTm01AXKA3i3RLOXxdpltb2mhBjvk03T e5e8MC0kMxa/PEPoEPPQeYA5ptmidpi/VWqWs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.114.108.8 with SMTP id g8mr3397055wac.103.1237656529947; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 10:28:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 17:28:49 +0000 Message-ID: <5931f8db0903211028p6893ff63lc1529893bf69c8f3@mail.gmail.com> From: Harry Woodhouse To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: G3MFW F4DTL Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00163646b9f0d24ea70465a45d73 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m265.1 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --00163646b9f0d24ea70465a45d73 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Nicolas, Many thanks. I am still learning on LF! You are only my fifth contact! Problem here is interference from mains on receive. Best 73s Harry G3MFW On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 12:27 PM, wrote: > Hello Harry, the contact was not easy because you had some difficults has > to receive me but here you were strong.Congratulations for your LF contacts. > > *F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP > * > --00163646b9f0d24ea70465a45d73 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Nicolas,
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Many thanks. I am still learning on=20= LF! You are only my fifth contact! Problem here is interference from mains o= n receive.
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0 Best 73s
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Harry G3MFW

On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 12:27 PM, <F4DTL@aol.com> w= rote:
Hello Harry, the contact was not easy because you had some difficults h= as=20 to receive me but here you were strong.Congratulations=A0for your LF=20 contacts.
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F4DTL=20 Nicolas JN18FP

--00163646b9f0d24ea70465a45d73-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (rly-dd04.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.151]) by air-dd03.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDD032-b7049aebc2432e; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 12:36:54 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD042-b7049aebc2432e; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 12:36:38 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lev0n-0007Wc-9g for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 17:36:05 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lev0m-0007WT-R3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 17:36:04 +0000 Received: from qw-out-1920.google.com ([74.125.92.145]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lev0l-0007ZL-UZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 17:36:04 +0000 Received: by qw-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 4so2946135qwk.16 for ; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 09:36:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=9Hf8vOgpJwIGuJ6pf9uatyGa1vJi/GSsuQ++lvaaRWA=; b=ZctpfA7RoSqwVV0JgzkxSIxFB1Whiv+abhRhz6m2ksJ54eS8GOMCQKbeFZcOKETgpS Vp6KHmvc8hW2WUIRpfEB7C2D/1riUGwo3bHp98vFEP7P5SWm1SlYourx34dY2RcMCOKO k9vElxupm+xh7rE1U6O/9ev0WKpWhzvHeqk0U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=diTjPhdWm7Ta8BSUIHLKugg9QVL/txueX2SnJ6C0urZ1C57plHY/7LXWBXQoKunZIC xy6smXmGQ8rTf+NfHEX2XKsngI2vXJmv4d6BZwpSU0rRAt1wWAcQIW5sQdTjj+4DO2mN G/Q55JGbimKaG7Fl18RUrudfxY/bjf+JLSA2A= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.28.213 with SMTP id n21mr245460qac.90.1236188161486; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 09:36:01 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 12:36:01 -0500 Message-ID: <57a24ca70903040936v10e4734apf541906e5da75eaa@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: XGJ 04-03.jpg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d223.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Thanks Henny for the capture! -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 2009/3/4 henny van elst : > Hi Warren,Lf > capture XGJ > Henny cpm > 73s > Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden > verzonden: > XGJ 04-03.jpg > > Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen > het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. > Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe > bijlagen worden afgehandeld. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma01.mx.aol.com (rly-ma01.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.44]) by air-ma07.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMA074-88949aace0522a; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 13:04:02 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma01.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA013-88949aace0522a; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 13:03:50 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ldq0f-0006Iw-TK for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 18:03:29 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ldq0f-0006In-8g for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 18:03:29 +0000 Received: from imo-d20.mx.aol.com ([205.188.139.136]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ldq0e-0003Sw-AP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 18:03:29 +0000 Received: from F4DTL@aol.com by imo-d20.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id l.d27.25806a57 (39952) for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 13:03:18 -0500 (EST) From: F4DTL@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 13:03:18 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5029 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: WSPR on 600m Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1235930598" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, LINES_OF_YELLING,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 -------------------------------1235930598 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Walter, 090301 1748 12 -17 0.9 0.505090 DI2AG JN59 30 090301 1750 12 -17 0.9 0.505090 DI2AG JN59 30 090301 1752 13 -16 0.9 0.505090 DI2AG JN59 30 090301 1756 10 -19 0.9 0.505090 DI2AG JN59 30 090301 1758 14 -16 0.8 0.505090 DI2AG JN59 30 F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP RX : Icom IC7400 Ant: Wellbrook LFL 1010 _http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/_ (http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/) -------------------------------1235930598 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Walter,
       
090301 1748 = ; 12=20 -17  0.9   0.505090  DI2AG JN59=20 30          
090301=20 1750  12 -17  0.9   0.505090  DI2AG JN59=20 30          
090301=20 1752  13 -16  0.9   0.505090  DI2AG JN59=20 30          
090301=20 1756  10 -19  0.9   0.505090  DI2AG JN59=20 30          
090301=20 1758  14 -16  0.8   0.505090  DI2AG JN59=20 30          
 

 
F4DTL=20 Nicolas JN18FP

RX : Icom IC7400
Ant: Wellbrook LFL 1010

http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net= /
 -------------------------------1235930598-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me04.mx.aol.com (rly-me04.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.38]) by air-me09.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME093-9ad49aab3bb57; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 11:11:59 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME041-9ad49aab3bb57; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 11:11:41 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LdoFl-0004hx-9H for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 16:10:57 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LdoFk-0004ho-Uw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 16:10:56 +0000 Received: from mail.tut.by ([195.137.160.40] helo=cluster-ldap.tutby.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LdoFk-0001ER-8C for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 16:10:56 +0000 Received: from [93.84.37.113] (account ew6gb@tut.by HELO [93.84.37.113]) by cluster-ldap.tutby.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.12) with ESMTPA id 2754270 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 18:10:22 +0200 Message-ID: <49AAB385.8050902@tut.by> Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 18:10:45 +0200 From: Andrej User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: EW6GB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) > along with DK4U tuning up and DD7PC calling, the purple trace above > looks like EW6GB. Thanks Markus. Yes, I was on the band today but only SO5AS has worked. 73! EW6GB From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg08.mx.aol.com (rly-mg08.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.114]) by air-mg04.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG041-a2949cc0389228; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 18:37:16 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg08.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG083-a2949cc0389228; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 18:37:00 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LmyBf-0004vT-Nk for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 22:36:35 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LmyBf-0004vK-Cl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 22:36:35 +0000 Received: from smtp3.wanadoo.co.uk ([193.252.22.156] helo=smtp3.freeserve.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LmyBd-0003Yr-32 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 22:36:35 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3206.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 9662B7000083 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 23:36:15 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.61.160]) by mwinf3206.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 580DD7000081 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 23:36:15 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20090326223615360.580DD7000081@mwinf3206.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: References: <4A6AE023E8F54CDF9ABFC1DB78F176BA@DR2> <49CB60CE.7050807@charter.net> <009601c9ae42$b3638c50$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> In-Reply-To: <009601c9ae42$b3638c50$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 22:36:14 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8064.206 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8064.206 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 3 rd Time lucky ? waspr 502.4 Khz 2200 > 0100 gmt Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Due to odd things going wrong ... running wspr Third time lucky ? WSPR 502.4 K (dial) 2200 > 0100 GMT G0NBD G .. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma09.mx.aol.com (rly-ma09.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.53]) by air-ma07.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMA072-8ce49af3872142; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 21:27:12 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma09.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA098-8ce49af3872142; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 21:27:02 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lf3I0-0004hS-CD for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 02:26:24 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lf3Hz-0004hJ-TO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 02:26:23 +0000 Received: from vms173015pub.verizon.net ([206.46.173.15]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lf3Hy-0001jf-Rc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 02:26:23 +0000 Received: from DR2 ([71.184.212.10]) by vms173015.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KG000BRUHFBQ4ZZ@vms173015.mailsrvcs.net> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 20:25:59 -0600 (CST) Message-id: From: "dave.riley3" To: , "600MRG" References: <000a01c99a91$a54a1180$1402a8c0@e7010> Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 21:25:57 -0500 MIME-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Deep copy... Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002B_01C99D0F.CEE73920" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.1 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_40_50, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_002B_01C99D0F.CEE73920 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I seem to get best results while trying to pull signals out of the noise whe= n the AGC of the receiver is OFF as well as the Noise Blanker and Noise redu= ction features being OFF... Do you concur?? Also setting a good audio filter to the passband of interest seems to bypass= some heavy static hits as well... Wat Sa OM ?? TNX from Dave @ WD2XSH/17 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_002B_01C99D0F.CEE73920 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I seem to get best results while trying to=20 pull signals out of the noise when the AGC of the receiver is OFF=20= as=20 well as the Noise Blanker and Noise reduction features being=20 OFF...
 
Do you concur??
 
Also setting a good audio filter to the passband= of=20 interest seems to bypass some heavy static hits as well...
 
Wat Sa OM ??
 
 
TNX from Dave @ WD2XSH/17
 
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_002B_01C99D0F.CEE73920-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg07.mx.aol.com (rly-dg07.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.91]) by air-dg04.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDG044-5da49bfed4119d; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 14:34:56 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg07.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG073-5da49bfed4119d; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 14:34:43 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lje7Z-0005BX-FU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 18:34:37 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lje7Z-0005BO-3C for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 18:34:37 +0000 Received: from qw-out-1920.google.com ([74.125.92.148]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lje7X-0004Gm-1Z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 18:34:37 +0000 Received: by qw-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 5so128078qwc.16 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 11:34:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=5pVnlnat75PCMbFO0fwmq+CHhDlIS1F970wCIBAKkXQ=; b=W+TgOJK/+PELpHaMfj2+FX2FUykUWbqnYSQ5VfuU1Wa4A7ewGOeLDJ+o4YLvtpFA2a 3BW//ad5p53a2/gBOF+YnzaGGSAVc509cKThY+rRnWfQ73njULxfBUp/9w96cwMuJgA0 ez6womLodAnPx0YKzxDh6NnGD90eYCee1puqQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=sVYTjRa6eM29KGFI6zKyR5ka3CTjDe0AGk6giRtpjl/LCXALw5Xv11MDmGyJaHN//B cL6GmD34OY4t6AWcWRJWWEvUVfHb2ML1qi496Yr95UWG/U3UupcJXh8/YEOjf2Le1ojU yaxmqkCCkwx0SvRUL8h8ganBQEf73HVxz3SiM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.36.202 with SMTP id u10mr597575qad.124.1237314565866; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 11:29:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <200903171918350875.1D3716BA@smtp.wanadoo.fr> References: <200903171918350875.1D3716BA@smtp.wanadoo.fr> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 13:29:25 -0500 Message-ID: <57a24ca70903171129i1b3a3131tdb2abf599cbeed8b@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: Re: LF: F1AFJ 15dB over QRN+LX on 137 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d260.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi John, What frequency and speed (QRSS?0 is F1AFJ on? -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 1:18 PM, John RABSON wrote: > At 1811z > > John Rabson > F5VLF > 58800 Cervon > France > JN17vg > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc08.mx.aol.com (rly-dc08.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.37]) by air-dc03.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDC032-b3849c15b197f; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 16:35:48 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc08.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC084-b3849c15b197f; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 16:35:38 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lk2Ty-0002SV-6j for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 20:35:22 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lk2Tx-0002SM-Np for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 20:35:21 +0000 Received: from blu0-omc4-s30.blu0.hotmail.com ([65.55.111.169]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lk2Tv-0003uC-Hp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 20:35:21 +0000 Received: from BLU146-W37 ([65.55.111.137]) by blu0-omc4-s30.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 18 Mar 2009 13:35:13 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [196.40.0.241] From: Laurence BY3A-KL1X China To: , , Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 12:35:13 -0800 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Mar 2009 20:35:13.0605 (UTC) FILETIME=[0A32E750:01C9A809] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_ca24653e-cc13-4897-ae89-0d3b36006e4c_" Subject: LF: Ti3 wspr 507.00 tonight and qrss 3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_ca24653e-cc13-4897-ae89-0d3b36006e4c_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 Will be "listening" 507 dial wspr and qrss 3 slow 507.000 -507.170 tonight f= rom my dusk till dawn. =20 nominations for modes and freqs near 505 et al for tomorrow welcomed. =20 =20 Laurence ti3/ kl 1 x =20 =20 =20 _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live=99 Groups: Create an online spot for your favorite groups to me= et. http://windowslive.com/online/groups?ocid=3DTXT_TAGLM_WL_groups_032009=3D --_ca24653e-cc13-4897-ae89-0d3b36006e4c_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable  
Will be "listening" 507 dial wspr and qrss 3 slow 507.000 -507.170 tonight f= rom my dusk till dawn.
 
nominations for modes and freqs  near 505 et al for tomorrow welcomed.<= BR>  
 
Laurence ti3/ kl 1 x
 
 
 

Windows Live=99 Groups: Create an online spot for your= favorite groups to meet. Check it out. =3D --_ca24653e-cc13-4897-ae89-0d3b36006e4c_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh08.mx.aol.com (rly-mh08.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.144]) by air-mh01.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMH014-bec49c1510c2f7; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 15:52:57 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh08.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH084-bec49c1510c2f7; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 15:52:46 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lk1oQ-0001a3-HI for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 19:52:26 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lk1oQ-0001Zu-2E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 19:52:26 +0000 Received: from [193.252.22.192] (helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lk1oN-0003cg-V7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 19:52:26 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3623.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 1996A7000087 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 20:52:16 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.14.71]) by mwinf3623.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id D1ABB7000086 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 20:52:15 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20090318195215858.D1ABB7000086@mwinf3623.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: References: <009001c9a588$7eb02c60$6401a8c0@asus> <00be01c9a66e$c8bfdbc0$0900a8c0@AM> <004a01c9a677$2a8b48a0$6401a8c0@asus> <005101c9a679$df148f50$6401a8c0@asus> <916F3329CAA846A19B450540FCC7E0AB@AGB> In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 19:52:15 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8064.206 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8064.206 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software QQQ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00F5_01C9A803.095ABE80" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_00F5_01C9A803.095ABE80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Andy, Q .. If the tx is keyed by vox/breakin will the slight clipping of the=20= leading edge of the beacon cause time problems ?? reason being .. if use force 'tx' will miss the beacon rx windows ?? Tnx- G ..=20 From: Andy Talbot=20 Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 4:27 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software That should have read http://www.g4jnt.com/PCBCN.zip Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/3/17 Andy Talbot Try http://www.g4jnt.com/beacons.htm and go to PCBCN at the bottom or directly =20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.16/2006 - Release Date: 03/17/09 0= 7:23:00 ------=_NextPart_000_00F5_01C9A803.095ABE80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Andy,
 
Q .. If the  tx is keyed by=20 vox/breakin    will the slight  clipping of the =20 leading edge of the  beacon  cause time problems ??
reason being  .. if use force 'tx' wil= l miss=20 the  beacon rx windows ??
 
Tnx- G ..

Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 4:27 PM
Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software

That should have read http://www.g4jnt.com/PCBCN.zip

Andy  G4JNT
= www.g4jnt.com


2009/3/17 Andy Talbot <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>
Try = http://www.g4jnt.com/beacons.htm    and=20 go to  PCBCN at the bottom
 or directly 


No virus found in this incoming message.
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------=_NextPart_000_00F5_01C9A803.095ABE80-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg08.mx.aol.com (rly-mg08.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.114]) by air-mg06.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG062-a2749c6375a18c; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 09:04:42 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg08.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG081-a2749c6375a18c; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 09:04:29 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LlNLC-0002iP-GQ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 13:03:50 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LlNLC-0002iG-3F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 13:03:50 +0000 Received: from psmtp12.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.24]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LlNL9-0000yd-94 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 13:03:50 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp12.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KGW000GTS9VKK@psmtp12.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 14:03:31 +0100 (MET) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 14:03:30 +0100 From: henny van elst To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-id: <9520BB071E14481E9D1566D5D1824BE0@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: PA3CPM F4DTL Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_VAD2Kj0Q6k4izBRYxbJWkg)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_VAD2Kj0Q6k4izBRYxbJWkg) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT hello nicolaas, tnx for the contact, best 73s henny pa3cpm. ----- Original Message ----- From: F4DTL@aol.com To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 11:23 AM Subject: LF: PA3CPM F4DTL Thanks my friend for this new contact with you. Have a nice day. F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP RX : Icom IC7400 Ant: Wellbrook LFL 1010 http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.23/2016 - Release Date: 03/21/09 17:58:00 --Boundary_(ID_VAD2Kj0Q6k4izBRYxbJWkg) Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
hello nicolaas,
tnx for the contact,
best 73s
henny pa3cpm.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 11:23 AM
Subject: LF: PA3CPM F4DTL

Thanks my friend for this new contact with you.
Have a nice day.
 
F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP

RX : Icom IC7400
Ant: Wellbrook LFL 1010

http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/


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--Boundary_(ID_VAD2Kj0Q6k4izBRYxbJWkg)-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de07.mx.aol.com (rly-de07.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.143]) by air-de01.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDE012-4e849b181b92f4; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 15:04:23 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de07.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE071-4e849b181b92f4; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 15:04:11 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LfgGV-0000XD-MT for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 20:03:27 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LfgGV-0000X4-4z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 20:03:27 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.151] helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LfgGT-00028D-SN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 20:03:27 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3526.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 89EDA1C00085 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 21:03:17 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.23.203]) by mwinf3526.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 0D0601C00084 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 21:03:16 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20090306200317535.0D0601C00084@mwinf3526.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: References: <0566EF6DE20B4249A3E74859BF9BA2C6@AGB> <9C03FBF153AB478A9B0DBC5580CF20D2@AGB> In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 20:03:15 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8064.206 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8064.206 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Multi-function beacon Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00B3_01C99E96.9661E1D0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_00B3_01C99E96.9661E1D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ok Andy=20 Seeing a good signal from your beacon, game on !. Well ... if the reports are sent to the 5 meg system , that may cause (more)= confusion .... but there is a need to produce some experimental data from=20= the allocation, this may be more 'tangible' than the wspr reports .... as=20= the beacon is running , I will splash this in the usual news groups , I wi= ll add a note asking for the log files to be retained and not emailed to t= he 5 meg system !=20 http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/multi-function-beacon-by-andy-g4= jnt Tnx- G ..=20 Nb the pulse width , 500uS .. that's a bit sharp for a ssb filter , only= 1.5 cycles at 3 Khz ... ? From: Andy Talbot=20 Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 3:56 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: Multi-function beacon Hi Graham -=20 I'm not bothered about log files myself as I don't have the time to collate= massses of data but if someone else feels they'd like to do it... Haven't hought about how long it will go for, I may just forget about it sho= ved up in the corner of the garage where, if it catches fire, all damage wil= l be contained, so happy enough running 24/7 for now. The 5MHz monitoring=20= system is in there as well. As for your questions on the pulsed part of the wavefom; its not in use on=20= this transmission , I replaced it with a PSK31 message instead. The origin= al 5MHz system used a pulse width of 500us at a PRF of 40Hz, with the idea o= f using an SSB reception bandwidth, so something coul dbe done with SSB Tx,=20= but these days we'd probably go another direction with PSK and a PN sequence= rather than a simple short pulse. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/3/6 Graham Ok Andy, Obvious question, hi,=20 How long are you thinking of running the beacon and where do you want=20= the report files to be sent ? There may be quite a few records generated in a short time, I note from th= e last 'hfc' that there is quite a backlog of data from the 5 meg operatio= n but there is movement to analyse the data. should prove interesting .. =20 How aggressive is the pulsed section of the tx cycle,?, I know there is s= ome interest in using that facility for study's on 500, but as yet I have no= t found the rise/fall and timing parameters. dose it need to be a pulse or= could a small frequency shift be used if time is being measured ? Tnx- G ..=20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.8/1985 - Release Date: 03/05/09 07= :54:00 ------=_NextPart_000_00B3_01C99E96.9661E1D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ok Andy
 
Seeing a good signal from your beacon, game= on=20 !.
 
Well ... if the reports are sent to the 5 m= eg=20 system , that may cause (more) confusion .... but there is a need to =20 produce some experimental data from the  allocation, this may be more=20 'tangible'  than the wspr reports .... as the  beacon is runn= ing=20 ,  I will splash this in the usual n= ews=20 groups , I will add a note asking for the  log files to  be retain= ed=20 and not emailed to the 5 meg system !
 
 
Tnx- G ..
 
 
 
Nb   the  pulse width , 500uS ...= that's a=20 bit  sharp for a ssb filter , only  1.5 cycles at 3 Khz ...=20 ?
 
 
 

Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 3:56 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Multi-function beacon

Hi Graham -
I'm not bothered about log files myself as  I don't have the time=20= to=20 collate massses of data but if someone else feels they'd like to do it...
 
Haven't hought about how long it will go for, I may just forget about i= t=20 shoved up in the corner of the garage where, if it catches fire, all da= mage=20 will be contained,  so happy enough running 24/7 for=20 now.  The 5MHz monitoring system is in there as well.
 
As for your questions on the pulsed part of the wavefom;  its not=20= in=20 use on this transmission , I replaced it with a PSK31 message=20 instead.   The original 5MHz system used a pulse width of 500us at= a=20 PRF of 40Hz, with the idea of using an SSB reception bandwidth, so something= =20 coul dbe done with SSB Tx, but these days we'd probably go another direction= =20 with PSK and a PN sequence rather than a simple short pulse.

Andy  G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com


2009/3/6 Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk&g= t;
Ok Andy,
 
Obvious question, hi,
 
How long are you  thinking of runnin= g=20 the  beacon and where do  you  want the report files to&nbs= p;=20 be sent ?
 
There may be quite a few records generate= d in a=20 short time, I note from the last 'hfc'=20= that=20 there is quite a backlog of data from the  5  meg operation but=20 there is movement
to analyse the  data. should prove=20 interesting ..  
 
How aggressive is the pulsed section of t= he =20 tx cycle,?, I know there is some interest in using that facility for study= 's=20 on 500, but as yet I have not  found the rise/fall and timing paramet= ers.=20 dose it need to  be a pulse or  could a small frequency shift be= =20 used if time is being measured ?
 
Tnx- G ..
 
 
 
 
 
 


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Hi Petr -
 
I use the TDA2030 as a pre-amplifier to produce a few watts in my=20= 136 kHz linear PA. The spec implies that it should still have some useful ga= in at 500 kHz - I'll be most interested to hear how you get on.  
 
Regards - Brian (G3YKB)

--- On Wed, 25/3/09, Petr Mal=FD &= lt;p.maly@gmc.net> wrote:
From: Petr Mal=FD <p.maly@gmc.net>
Subject: LF= : TDA2003, TDA2030 for PA?
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Wedn= esday, 25 March, 2009, 1:38 PM

Hi all,
 
My intention is to build a small transmitte= r up to some 10W for 136 and 505 kHz, this time not the D class, but B=20= or AB class.
I think of employing AF amplifiers such as=20= TDA2003, TDA2030, or similar. Of course, mainly 505 kHz is rather out of ran= ge so that nothing is guaranteed. This is why I ask before experimenting.
Did anybody try to use these for 136/505 kH= z?
 
Tks, 73, Petr, OK!FIG
 
 

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for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 13:33:40 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LfDhj-0003jn-PX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 13:33:39 +0000 Received: from qw-out-1920.google.com ([74.125.92.144]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LfDhj-0001bi-1f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 13:33:39 +0000 Received: by qw-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 4so3318860qwk.16 for ; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 05:33:35 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=dmZ1HZ667J91QurkkAro7xQ4bSu7YO5Ow/bcj9hWm64=; b=exYYbZA4s3dV5uG3g0GgX+o91DP+vRZhrMq1oJAHAyevJlcQBucTlDBIDtB7Rt8Q6o pwElq7tzwFUVeUbwCGKJCIn2sWgvPIAwqC0BZkzOCSOEASzG6M+Z3zHVHtnTsAwILjM4 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Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d242.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Thank you Willem for the capture! (XGJ off tonight) -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 8:23 AM, Willem De Roode wrote: > Traces off xgj > > > > 73s Willem pa3ego -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md08.mx.aol.com (rly-md08.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.146]) by air-md08.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMD084-91b49b2658b37c; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 07:16:16 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md08.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD083-91b49b2658b37c; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 07:16:13 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LfvRR-0003pU-GR for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 12:15:45 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LfvRR-0003pL-4c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 12:15:45 +0000 Received: from fish2.hurontel.on.ca ([216.46.129.163]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LfvRO-0003pp-ML for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 12:15:45 +0000 Received: from weazle (pppoe.dyn-216.46.157.28.hurontel.on.ca [216.46.157.28]) by fish2.hurontel.on.ca (Spam Firewall) with SMTP id 83D8D86022C; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 07:15:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from weazle (pppoe.dyn-216.46.157.28.hurontel.on.ca [216.46.157.28]) by fish2.hurontel.on.ca with SMTP id nilu0A0BIEqbaiy1; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 07:15:33 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <000501c99f1e$6a170aa0$0b01a8c0@weazle> From: "J. B. Weazle McCreath" To: Cc: Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 12:15:30 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Friday eve whispers Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=LINES_OF_YELLING autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hello LFers, Lowfers, Here is a sample of the WSPR signals as received at Saltford, On. on Friday evening: 090306 2340 7 -14 0.1 0.508534 WE2XGR FN31 57 090306 2344 1 -13 0.8 0.508513 W1TAG FN42 53 090306 2344 6 -12 0.1 0.508534 WE2XGR FN31 57 090306 2348 2 -13 0.5 0.508513 W1TAG FN42 53 090306 2348 11 -10 0.0 0.508534 WE2XGR FN31 57 090306 2352 5 -10 0.6 0.508513 W1TAG FN42 53 090306 2352 1 -13 0.1 0.508534 WE2XGR FN31 57 090306 2356 2 -14 0.6 0.508513 W1TAG FN42 53 090306 2356 8 -4 0.0 0.508534 WE2XGR FN31 57 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL Solar and wind powered Lowfer " EAR" 188.830 EN93dr http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me05.mx.aol.com (rly-me05.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.39]) by air-me03.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME031-9b549ab57a257; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 22:51:11 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me05.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME051-9b549ab57a257; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 22:51:00 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LdzAq-0005PS-N3 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 03:50:36 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LdzAq-0005PJ-6n for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 03:50:36 +0000 Received: from blu0-omc1-s26.blu0.hotmail.com ([65.55.116.37]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LdzAp-0007bi-0r for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 03:50:36 +0000 Received: from BLU146-W38 ([65.55.116.8]) by blu0-omc1-s26.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 1 Mar 2009 19:50:27 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [138.32.244.2] From: Laurence BY3A-KL1X China To: Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 18:50:28 -0900 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <14664009932A496395491F42FB996D77@ns94d01ae4d850> References: <14664009932A496395491F42FB996D77@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Mar 2009 03:50:27.0750 (UTC) FILETIME=[066B7460:01C99AEA] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_a7a283d1-9f8d-4d03-85f9-19d01deaa7fb_" Subject: RE: LF: Fw: 137khz X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_a7a283d1-9f8d-4d03-85f9-19d01deaa7fb_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Very noisy QRN wise from thunderstorms some way off and only WPF seen cleanl= y. Conditions were actually quite good with the uilities in Eu around 20-30= dB above my -90dBm noise level (with lightning taking it to -65 :-(( ) =20 Laurence BY3A-KL1X OM89 NE China =20 Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 00:44:53 +0100 From: cpm@planet.nl To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Fw: 137khz =20 sr , Capture YO and WPF, Henny cpm 73s _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail=AE is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast.=20 http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=3DTXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_70faster_032009= =3D --_a7a283d1-9f8d-4d03-85f9-19d01deaa7fb_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Very noisy QRN wise from thunderstorms some way off and only WPF seen c= leanly. Conditions  were actually quite good with the uilities in Eu&nb= sp;around 20-30dB above my -90dBm noise level (with lightning taking it= to -65  :-((   )
 
Laurence BY3A-KL1X
OM89 NE China
 
Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 00:44:53 +0100
From: cpm@planet.nl
To: rsgb_lf_g= roup@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: Fw: 137khz

 
sr ,
Capture YO and WPF,
Henny cpm
73s

Hotmail=AE is u= p to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. Find out more. =3D --_a7a283d1-9f8d-4d03-85f9-19d01deaa7fb_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh03.mx.aol.com (rly-mh03.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.139]) by air-mh01.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMH013-bc549aac36a23d; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 12:18:47 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh03.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH035-bc549aac36a23d; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 12:18:35 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LdpIm-0005PR-1S for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 17:18:08 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LdpIl-0005PI-Lh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 17:18:07 +0000 Received: from mailout01.t-online.de ([194.25.134.80]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LdpIk-0002RE-VJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 17:18:07 +0000 Received: from fwd04.aul.t-online.de by mailout01.t-online.de with smtp id 1LdpIj-0008FN-02; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 18:18:05 +0100 Received: from e7010 (EXZHZEZTQhKf-RUEM2uqmiFpYvLqATH-kiJYI+R3Ac0HTJxtSfZsCTVP1QRjBZGZ2v@[84.147.195.87]) by fwd04.aul.t-online.de with smtp id 1LdpIS-1NxyyG0; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 18:17:48 +0100 Message-ID: <000a01c99a91$a54a1180$1402a8c0@e7010> From: "Walter und Marianne Staubach" To: Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 18:17:45 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4927.1200 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 X-ID: EXZHZEZTQhKf-RUEM2uqmiFpYvLqATH-kiJYI+R3Ac0HTJxtSfZsCTVP1QRjBZGZ2v X-TOI-MSGID: ca891a30-f39c-4596-adf5-83b2b330505c X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: WSPR on 600m Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C99A9A.04FDC1F0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C99A9A.04FDC1F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear All on MF, DI2AG will transmit WSPR tonight. Beginning 18UTC, ending 7UTC.=20 Dial frequency 503.6KHz, beacon on 505.090KHz. Power 1W ERP. Reports welcome= . Please report on WSPRnet.org or this reflector. 73 Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C99A9A.04FDC1F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear All on MF,
       =20= DI2AG=20 will transmit WSPR tonight. Beginning 18UTC, ending 7UTC.
Dial frequency 503.6KHz, beacon on 505.090K= Hz.=20 Power 1W ERP. Reports welcome. Please report on WSPRnet.org or this=20 reflector.
 
73  Walter  DI2AG / DJ2LF<= /DIV>
 
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C99A9A.04FDC1F0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg06.mx.aol.com (rly-dg06.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.90]) by air-dg08.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDG083-5d449b190d730e; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 16:08:57 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg06.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG067-5d449b190d730e; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 16:08:42 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LfhHN-0001Zd-Tt for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 21:08:25 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LfhHN-0001ZU-8S for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 21:08:25 +0000 Received: from mail-bw0-f164.google.com ([209.85.218.164]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LfhHM-0003BC-6x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 21:08:25 +0000 Received: by bwz8 with SMTP id 8so604658bwz.4 for ; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 13:08:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=fhFJOevvfliWartIjrGPRgBHKs8TwLb/RKIIJrDvzA8=; b=Cq6bGFyf3UdJSuVmwXZQkaW8eM8msL0lp6p+JAtwhiEWv67KCbI3oq7mADcMk3D2TS B5A1XjXFlKjgk3v5R703F/2WdybJvMQbn06u9b0PhHApv/ZKHKAjfkjy5TSMdDvUCKW1 5mM850fJgEfcY+im822NR48DqycbQw/sRe0mc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=vgDQuLqQbpcCuasLZW97SfEulOMkvjXtvWS+8m329vxYf8R8MfMz0kW7m9YLOwf8+Q kh4ZEJt6N2CWvOmmXUT8BibN/xKi4PXZmpxIB7LKgKsAcCETzV+DYBve0hp039e+jT/c cCSUhGDx869wJuk2zITXbPsZExdfIQFdRm3pE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.126.69 with SMTP id b5mr2426218fas.54.1236373698226; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 13:08:18 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <28FA0F184B25444F8BA2F1EC5FC42C04@AGB> References: <0566EF6DE20B4249A3E74859BF9BA2C6@AGB> <9C03FBF153AB478A9B0DBC5580CF20D2@AGB> <28FA0F184B25444F8BA2F1EC5FC42C04@AGB> Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 21:08:18 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Multi-function beacon Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5a82f17b134046479afe7 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m273.2 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --001636c5a82f17b134046479afe7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Graham - I'm not sure I know what you are hoping to do with the sounder pulse. It was incorporated into the 5MHz system to allow propagation investigations into multiple skywave hops and multipath, Its parameters were therefore set at values that were a compromise between expected HF multipath parameters, and what could reasonably be allowed for in terms of "necessary bandwidth". While G3PLX did generate some data using the sounder, the idea was never widely popular. In fact there has been recent mention of removing the sounder sequence from at least one of the beacons. A short pulse is not really a good choice, but with only a narrow bandwidth to play width, its the best that could be done. A chirp or PN sequence would be a better solution. Are you hoping to be able to set up some sort of sounding system at MF? If so, I suspect you're going to want to measure a different range of values and a different waveform would fit the bill better. I know very little about MF/HF propagation beyond what the amateur textbooks give, but suggest you talk to G3PLX, G0MJW and others who do understand the subject very well. Whatever, I suspect you may be interested in accurately measuring the time delay changes over long paths, and for this, short pulses are not the answer. Instead, coherent systems making use of phase information should do the job. These days, its trivial to get sub-microsecond timing accuracy with any GPS receiver and I firmly believe this is the way to go. It hasn't been widely made-use-of, but the RAL VHF beacons on 40/50/60/70MHz, and GB3VHF on 144MHz all have a GPS timed sequence of once per second phase reversals as part of their transmission (JT65B, CW, carrier, reversals). These reversals occur at a precise point referred to UTC, and anyone else can measure them, and relate to a local GPS reference. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/3/6 Graham > OK Andy, > > I was thinking more in terms of generating the pulse using 'audio' and not > by hard keying .. but the 'area under the curve' looks a little 'thin' > ..pity .. the rest of the system could be 'constructed' using a audio > editor .and sent via a ssb tx with alc 'off' .. how accurate is the start > time requirements ? > > tnx- G .. > > > > *From:* Andy Talbot > *Sent:* Friday, March 06, 2009 8:13 PM > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > *Subject:* Re: LF: Multi-function beacon > > Not strictly - > Look at it in th efreqeuncy domain. A 500us pulse has its first zero at > 2000/pi = 637Hz, so most of the energy is within 1300Hz bandwidth, and a > substantial part will pass though the Rx filter. It will be extended in > time and flattenned, but the detection algorithm finds the peak, in effect > applying an inverse transform of the SSB filter. > > Andy G4JNT > www.g4jnt.com > > >> >> Nb the pulse width , 500uS .. that's a bit sharp for a ssb filter , >> only 1.5 cycles at 3 Khz ... ? >> >> >> >> >> > ------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.8/1987 - Release Date: 03/06/09 > 07:20:00 > > --001636c5a82f17b134046479afe7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Graham -
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I'm not sure I know what you are hoping to do with the sounder puls= e.=A0=A0=A0 It was incorporated into the 5MHz system to allow propagation in= vestigations into multiple skywave hops and multipath,=A0=A0 Its parameters=20= were therefore set at values that were a compromise between expected HF mult= ipath parameters, and what could reasonably be allowed for in terms of "= ;necessary=A0bandwidth".=A0=A0While G3PLX did generate some data using=20= the sounder, the idea=A0was never widely popular.=A0 In fact there has been=20= recent mention of removing the sounder sequence from at least one of the bea= cons.=A0=A0 A short pulse is not really a good choice, but with only a narro= w bandwidth to play width, its the best that could be done.=A0=A0 A chirp or= PN sequence =A0would be a better solution.
=A0
Are you hoping to be able to set up some sort of sounding system at MF?= =A0=A0 If so, I suspect you're going to want to measure a different rang= e of values and a different waveform would fit the bill better.=A0=A0 I know= very little about MF/HF propagation beyond what the amateur textbooks give,= but suggest you talk to G3PLX, G0MJW and others who do understand the subje= ct very well.
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Whatever, I suspect=A0you may be interested in accurately measuring the= time delay changes over long paths, and for this, short pulses are not=A0th= e answer.=A0=A0 Instead, coherent systems making use of phase information sh= ould do the job.=A0=A0 These days,=A0its trivial to get sub-microsecond timi= ng accuracy with=A0any GPS receiver and I firmly believe this is the way to=20= go.=A0
=A0
It hasn't been widely made-use-of, but the RAL VHF beacons on 40/50= /60/70MHz, and GB3VHF on 144MHz all have a GPS=A0timed sequence of once per=20= second phase reversals as part of their transmission (JT65B, CW, carrier, re= versals).=A0=A0 These reversals occur at a precise point referred to UTC, an= d anyone else can measure them, and relate to a local GPS reference.

Andy =A0G4JNT
www= .g4jnt.com


2009/3/6 Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
OK=A0 Andy,
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I was thinking more in terms of generat= ing the=A0 pulse using 'audio' and not by hard keying .. but the = 9;area under the=A0 curve' looks a little 'thin'=A0 ..pity .. th= e=A0 rest of the=A0 system could be 'constructed' using a audio edit= or .and sent via a ssb tx with alc 'off' .. how accurate is the=A0 s= tart time requirements ?
=A0
tnx- G ..
=A0
=A0

Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 8:13 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Multi-function beacon

Not strictly -
Look at it in th efreqeuncy domain.=A0 A 500us pulse has its first zero= at 2000/pi =3D 637Hz, so most of the energy is within 1300Hz bandwidth, and= =A0a substantial part will pass though the Rx filter.=A0 It will be extended= in time and flattenned, but the detection algorithm finds the peak, in effe= ct applying an inverse transform of the SSB filter.

Andy =A0G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com

=A0
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Nb =A0 the=A0 pulse width , 500uS .. th= at's a bit=A0 sharp for a ssb filter , only=A0 1.5 cycles at 3 Khz ... ?=
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--001636c5a82f17b134046479afe7-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da03.mx.aol.com (rly-da03.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.77]) by air-da03.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDA033-a5a49c1303034a; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 13:32:41 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da03.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA032-a5a49c1303034a; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 13:32:33 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ljzco-0000TT-Vo for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 17:32:18 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ljzco-0000TK-KT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 17:32:18 +0000 Received: from smtp02.online.nl ([194.134.41.32]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ljzcl-0008K8-Vj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 17:32:18 +0000 Received: from smtp02.online.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp02.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A1DEA17D for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 18:31:39 +0100 (CET) Received: from pa3fnytrqxpddu (s5593e077.adsl.wanadoo.nl [85.147.224.119]) by smtp02.online.nl (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 18:31:39 +0100 (CET) From: To: Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 18:31:39 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <49C12CD6.9030400@online.fr> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Online-Scanned: by Cloudmark authority (on smtp02.online.nl) X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: RE: LF: wpf,afj Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.2 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS, MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 HI Jean-pierre,my locator is JO22NC, 73 Victor -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens "Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 (F1AFJ)" Verzonden: woensdag 18 maart 2009 18:18 Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Onderwerp: Re: LF: wpf,afj TNX Victor for report , what your locator ? 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj victor13@online.nl a =E9crit : > Hi all, > > good copy afj,traces wpf > > 73 > > Victor > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df05.mx.aol.com (rly-df05.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.18]) by air-df03.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDF034-54d49c4e08a38b; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 08:41:55 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df05.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF052-54d49c4e08a38b; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 08:41:47 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ll0Vf-00040l-Pc for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 12:41:07 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ll0Vf-00040c-Ba for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 12:41:07 +0000 Received: from mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.47]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ll0Ve-0001le-HY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 12:41:07 +0000 Received: from aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20090321124057.ZKKY2989.mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com>; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 12:40:57 +0000 Received: from [192.168.2.34] (really [82.22.242.113]) by aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vG.2.02.00.01 201-2161-120-102-20060912) with ESMTP id <20090321124057.ZLOY21638.aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@[192.168.2.34]>; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 12:40:57 +0000 From: "Mike Dennison" To: F4DTL@aol.com, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 12:40:51 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <49C4E053.27316.B0CD4A@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> In-reply-to: References: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=9YlaCzn6_68A:10 a=VkxzZkABwd4oJlkA0tYA:9 a=Q1S8UMPQoY2XbVHXab2FS8_FprwA:4 a=XF7b4UCPwd8A:10 a=gmBXsakOPyV2O1YJ9SEA:9 a=MdMqCQolhZec9jNJ9i0A:7 a=ciFsR_psvlYAzc2mlFv2z1rGnqwA:4 a=ZKnif72J_Oqc924DYrIA:9 a=8BXF6KY-FoXqHy_UotkOQiS-UzAA:4 a=bC4pTEGzVWIA:10 a=KQqxNPgzF0kA:10 a=MJ1k_NMdMVHGII_1:18 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Content-type: Multipart/Mixed; boundary=Message-Boundary-26347 Subject: Re: LF: G3XDV F4DTL X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Message-Boundary-26347 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Content-Description: Mail message body Thanks, Nicolas. 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16.mx.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID beckmann.erlangen@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #76) id 1LmGLQ-00028U-JH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 00:47:45 +0100 From: "Beckmann, Gerhard" To: References: <864ED1778706409D9A640FF89C5F22C7@Silver> <35BC7A5BC84143BB916FEAA9FA0B67CF@AGB> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 00:47:29 +0100 Message-ID: <6F3FEF77C5114A42BB288377EFF89835@2a2d7ed321c6425> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Acms0VRYCsUWnNUsScCpG1K1t2KDLwACKdPQ In-Reply-To: <35BC7A5BC84143BB916FEAA9FA0B67CF@AGB> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: LF: AW: WSPR G0NBD 502.4 DIAL NOW TILL LATER POSS OVER NIGHT Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002F_01C9ACE3.4FA92A90" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * 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24. M=E4rz 2009 23:35 An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Betreff: LF: WSPR G0NBD 502.4 DIAL NOW TILL LATER POSS OVER NIGHT=20 =20 Making hay while the sun (doesn't shine)=20 =20 G0NBD 502.4 DIAL NOW TILL LATER POSS OVER NIGHT=20 =20 Tnx- G .. =20 =20 =20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_002F_01C9ACE3.4FA92A90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

 

Hello Graham,

 

nice signal he= re in JN59LN

 

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Vy 73 de Gerha= rd=A0 /=A0 DK6NI

 

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Von:= owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g] Im Auftrag von Graham
Gesendet: Dienstag, 24. M=E4r= z 2009 23:35
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Betreff: LF: WSPR G0NBD 502.4= DIAL NOW TILL LATER POSS OVER NIGHT

 

Makin= g  hay while the  sun (doesn't shine)

 

G0NBD 502.4 DIAL NOW TILL LATER POSS OVER NIGHT

 

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------=_NextPart_000_002F_01C9ACE3.4FA92A90-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df05.mx.aol.com (rly-df05.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.18]) by air-df03.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDF034-54c49ae3979294; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 03:19:16 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df05.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF051-54c49ae3979294; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 03:19:08 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LemIp-0001UG-VB for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 08:18:07 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LemIp-0001U7-Eq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 08:18:07 +0000 Received: from mail7.ssmb.com ([199.67.204.181] helo=mail.citigroup.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LemIj-0002fJ-DP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 08:18:07 +0000 Received: from imbarc-eu01.eur.nsroot.net (imbarc-eu01.eu.ssmb.com [169.183.21.39]) by imbaspam-eu03.eur.nsroot.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/SSMB_EXT/ev: 22534 $) with ESMTP id n248HsvG026845 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 08:17:55 GMT Received: from mailhub-dc2.eu.ssmb.com (mailhub-dc2.eur.nsroot.net [169.186.205.199]) by imbarc-eu01.eur.nsroot.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/SSMB_QQQ_IN/1.1) with ESMTP id n248HjqL007806 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 08:17:45 GMT Received: from exuksm06.eur.nsroot.net (Exuksm06.eur.nsroot.net [169.183.26.36]) by mailhub-dc2.eu.ssmb.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/CG_HUB) with ESMTP id n248HgHx011121 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 08:17:44 GMT Received: from exukmb49.eur.nsroot.net ([169.183.32.64]) by exuksm06.eur.nsroot.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Wed, 4 Mar 2009 08:17:40 +0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6619.12 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 08:17:40 -0000 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: XGJ report Thread-Index: Acmcoa+3JBGz78AWR2O5LicAESJAQA== From: "Scholz, Marco " To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Mar 2009 08:17:40.0781 (UTC) FILETIME=[AFAD55D0:01C99CA1] X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 169.186.160.42 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C99CA1.AF7D144C" Subject: LF: XGJ report X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) ------_=_NextPart_001_01C99CA1.AF7D144C Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Warren, I copied your signal from ~22:40 - 00:40 and ~3:30 - 4:30UTC. Attached a strong peak "X" around 4:00am UTC. 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Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db07.mx.aol.com (rly-db07.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.82]) by air-db09.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDB091-ad349b607ff39; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 02:26:23 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db07.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB071-ad349b607ff39; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 02:26:09 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LgvOz-00081Y-Cx for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 06:25:21 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LgvOy-00081P-VI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 06:25:20 +0000 Received: from psmtp13.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.25]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LgvOy-0004t6-7w for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 06:25:20 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp13.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KGA00JJA1U2FK@psmtp13.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 07:25:14 +0100 (MET) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 07:25:02 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 184khz Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_pTNXY3/dxjOXsj5ysQndkA)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_pTNXY3/dxjOXsj5ysQndkA) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Hi lf, nil for Joe, henny pa3cpm 73s --Boundary_(ID_pTNXY3/dxjOXsj5ysQndkA) Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
Hi lf,
nil for Joe,
henny pa3cpm
73s
--Boundary_(ID_pTNXY3/dxjOXsj5ysQndkA)-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db02.mx.aol.com (rly-db02.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.77]) by air-db03.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDB034-aab49c3534d37b; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 04:27:20 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db02.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB021-aab49c3534d37b; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 04:26:54 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lka42-00007s-SR for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 08:26:50 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lka42-00007j-GT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 08:26:50 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.4]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lka3z-0007WP-NU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 08:26:50 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id E66F84C81B2 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 09:26:44 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 922FC4C812D for ; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 09:26:41 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <49C35341.2020408@online.fr> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 09:26:41 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <650F5744AD854ABD8276029657B4AB17@ns94d01ae4d850> <96BF99D9A8BD48F3A8188A31EFE51D62@ns94d01ae4d850> In-Reply-To: <96BF99D9A8BD48F3A8188A31EFE51D62@ns94d01ae4d850> X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: F6AFJ 19-03.jpg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------030108020105070206030704" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --------------030108020105070206030704 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ho! Henny , "1" are : dit dah dah dah dah , "6" are : dah dit dit dit dit I transmit "F1AFJ" :-D ;-) :-P !...... see capture 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj henny van elst a =E9crit : > Hi J-P, > Your pc transmit a 6,not a 1,I think,look at the capture, > henny cpm > 73s > ----- Original Message -----=20 > From: henny van elst=20 > To: blacksheep=20 > Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 9:06 PM > Subject: LF: F6AFJ 19-03.jpg > > > Hi Jean-Pierre and All, > strong signal 137khz > Henny pa3cpm > best 73s > Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzo= nden: > F6AFJ 19-03.jpg > > Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virusse= n het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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(XNaZF8ZOghEx-Sbex24sM7m7OMLj8nPlXfR68d3kj57-zoBcJVXbLPgsD1Ed5yNZf7@[93.196.56.224]) by fwd03.t-online.de with esmtp id 1LnZWa-1nCdFq0; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 15:28:40 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de References:<004201c9afaa$79a0c410$1402a8c0@e7010> In-Reply-To:<004201c9afaa$79a0c410$1402a8c0@e7010> To: X-Mailer: T-Online eMail 6.07.0001 Date: 28 Mar 2009 14:28 GMT Message-ID: <1LnZWa-1nCdFq0@fwd03.t-online.de> X-ID: XNaZF8ZOghEx-Sbex24sM7m7OMLj8nPlXfR68d3kj57-zoBcJVXbLPgsD1Ed5yNZf7 X-TOI-MSGID: ad2758e1-26e8-40ab-a75b-5c7e90337e7a X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: DI2AG WSPR Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative; Boundary="__Next_1238250499_Part29__" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --__Next_1238250499_Part29__ Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit Dear Walter, I guess You should feed your energy-saving bulbs from the mains via a current balun of at least some hundreds of microhenries when running your transmitter! HW? Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB "Walter und Marianne Staubach" schrieb: Dear All on MF, DI2AG is still running in WSPR, 0.5W ERP on 505.090KHz. TNX to G0HNW for his numerous reports last night and also to F4DTL and DJ6LB. DI2AG will be transmitting continually throughout day and night until Monday morning. Your reports - also daylight propagation - are welcome via WSPR database or by e-mail. Thanks a lot. 73 Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF BTW: Last eve, when I started WSPR on MF, I observed my signal with ARGO - full band view. Only one modulated carrier on the screen. All ok. For a while later - sun had disappeared - suddenly the screen was full of vertikal lines , all modulated like the main carrier. It was a ladder, all lines 100, 200, 300,.....Hz apart. When the transmitter paused, the carriers were off. Something wrong with the equipment? After a long time I found the reason: I had switched on the light in my shack. This comes from three energy-saving bulbs, each 15W. My antenna begins just outside the shack, part of the power mixed in the electronic of the bulbs with the rectifiers. When replacing these Bulbs by good olds type Mr. Edison the ghost carriers were off. What do we learn? Before saving energy test the bulbs for curious signals :-) 73 Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF --__Next_1238250499_Part29__ Content-Type: Text/HTML; Charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit T-Online eMail Dear Walter,

I guess You should feed your energy-saving bulbs from the mains via a current balun of at least some hundreds of microhenries when running your transmitter!

HW? 

Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB


  "Walter und Marianne Staubach" <wum.staubach@t-online.de> schrieb:
Dear All on MF,
          DI2AG is still running in WSPR, 0.5W ERP on 505.090KHz. TNX to G0HNW for his numerous reports last night and also to F4DTL and DJ6LB. DI2AG will be transmitting continually throughout day and night until Monday morning. Your reports - also daylight propagation - are welcome via WSPR database or by e-mail. Thanks a lot.
73
Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF
 
BTW: Last eve, when I started WSPR on MF, I observed my signal with ARGO - full band view. Only one modulated carrier on the screen. All ok. For a while later - sun had disappeared - suddenly the screen was full of vertikal lines , all modulated like the main carrier. It was a ladder, all lines 100, 200, 300,.....Hz apart. When the transmitter paused, the carriers were off. Something wrong with the equipment? After a long time I found the reason: I had switched on the light in my shack. This comes from three energy-saving bulbs, each 15W. My antenna begins just outside the shack, part of the power mixed in the electronic of the bulbs with the rectifiers. When replacing these Bulbs by good olds type Mr. Edison the ghost carriers were off. What do we learn? Before saving energy test the bulbs for curious signals :-)
73
Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF
 
 
--__Next_1238250499_Part29__-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf03.mx.aol.com (rly-mf03.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.173]) by air-mf07.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMF073-95049c3d3a2246; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 13:34:30 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf03.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF036-95049c3d3a2246; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 13:34:27 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lkibs-0006iY-J9 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 17:34:20 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lkibs-0006iP-87 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 17:34:20 +0000 Received: from mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.47]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lkibr-000825-IB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 17:34:20 +0000 Received: from aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20090320173414.ISXD2989.mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com>; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 17:34:14 +0000 Received: from [192.168.2.34] (really [82.22.242.113]) by aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vG.2.02.00.01 201-2161-120-102-20060912) with ESMTP id <20090320173413.KZKC13254.aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@[192.168.2.34]>; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 17:34:13 +0000 From: "Mike Dennison" To: Warren Ziegler , rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 17:34:11 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <49C3D393.18849.5C9A7B@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> In-reply-to: <57a24ca70903200951x42ca0ee9rac2f6e87b975896c@mail.gmail.com> References: <57a24ca70903200951x42ca0ee9rac2f6e87b975896c@mail.gmail.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-description: Mail message body X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=9YlaCzn6_68A:10 a=WYl_YlwoAAAA:8 a=z3zJ3i8G625uClo_R_UA:9 a=IIjOHV8ZOCi3zRfOHmkA:7 a=NtFnpAB3IE7kzWVmeCER0XDv5LoA:4 a=gi0PWCVxevcA:10 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Ropex Info? Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 I have posted the documents at: http://:lf.apersonalguide.co.uk/ropex Mike, G3XDV ========== > I have just acquired a Ropex "The First" transmitter for 136kHz - > but without documentation of any kind. I know that Ropex did not > supply anything more than a single sheet of instructions but I'm > lacking even that. Questions: 1) Anyone have a copy of the instruction > sheet that they could copy or scan? 2) Any info on mods (injecting an > external vfo for example)? 3) Anybody do any 'reverse engineering' of > the circuit? > > Any info at all is much appreciated! > > -- > 73 Warren K2ORS > WD2XGJ > WD2XSH/23 > WE2XEB/2 > WE2XGR/1 > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg07.mx.aol.com (rly-mg07.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.113]) by air-mg02.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG021-a2549cb6e761a7; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 08:01:04 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg07.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG077-a2549cb6e761a7; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 08:00:55 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LmoFf-0008Up-Ic for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 12:00:03 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LmoFf-0008Ug-6T for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 12:00:03 +0000 Received: from vms173019pub.verizon.net ([206.46.173.19]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LmoFd-00031D-A5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 12:00:03 +0000 Received: from DR2 ([71.184.212.10]) by vms173019.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KH400DIK3ZOH1NR@vms173019.mailsrvcs.net> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 06:59:48 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <63B21C035B584FA68D28CB5FAE1589EB@DR2> From: "dave.riley3" To: References: <4A6AE023E8F54CDF9ABFC1DB78F176BA@DR2> <49CB60CE.7050807@charter.net> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 07:59:48 -0400 MIME-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36 Subject: Re: LF: WSPR tonight Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=response Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 After years at sea I never heard a 600M inland station, actually never even knew of one except for the Mississippi River stations WAY back... I am 3 miles inland and can tell you that car radio reception is weaker here with more QRN than being down by the water... What really helps is Bill Ashloop's antenna especially over very poor conductivity ground and possibly the 23kv power lines that go down to the beach in a NE direction probably adding some amount of Beverage effect... The odd DB or so from the directional properties of the loop also help with less noise arriving from the sides... No complaints... No ground radials, no hazardous voltages, no lossy loading coils, little e-noise on receive, no detuning during WX changes... Just one piece of wire and one vacuum cap does it all... In fact it is part of the RFPA tank circuit here... ( no DC of course ) TNX Dave @ /17 ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Andrews" To: Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 7:02 AM Subject: Re: LF: WSPR tonight > Dave Riley seems to have some advantage by being right at the coast. Here > at 100 km inland (due west), EU copy on 600M has been more difficult. I > started a WSPR session around 0130 last night, and got only the following > for the whole night: > > 090326 0436 3 -28 0.7 0.503881 M0BMU IO91 33 > 090326 0450 1 -29 0.8 0.503881 7DJ/4Q3ASX S9 > > The previous evening, I had nothing at all on G0BND between 2300 and 0230, > so things are looking up! > > John Andrews, W1TAG > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (rly-dd02.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.149]) by air-dd09.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDD094-b6649c228f738a; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 07:14:13 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD028-b6649c228f738a; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 07:14:00 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LkGBE-0003Vz-Mm for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 11:12:56 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LkGBE-0003Vq-3Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 11:12:56 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-4-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.55]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LkGBC-0001aT-La for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 11:12:56 +0000 X-Trace: 165950855/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.59.96/None/g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.59.96 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Microsoft Office Outlook 11Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApcFAF7FwUlYajtg/2dsb2JhbACCJixUQ4Y6g2LENAeCK4FKBg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,389,1233532800"; d="scan'208,217";a="165950855" Received: from 88-106-59-96.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.59.96]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 19 Mar 2009 11:11:52 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF -RSGB LF Group" Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 11:11:52 -0000 Message-ID: <007501c9a883$81d23930$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: Acmog4E3/FsSl4krQeKRSMCW71ZCxQ== X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 503.700KHz Beacon Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0076_01C9A883.81D48320" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0076_01C9A883.81D48320 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Andy, LF, I have noticed that although I can see the beacon using SpecLab the G3PLX software seems unable to detect the signal for SNR data during the daytime. In view of this I have made a small change to the way I attenuate the input to the sound card to see if it helps with daytime detection. I have removed the RF attenuator at the antenna input & placed an adjustable resistive attenuator in the audio feed to the sound card input (BTW, the sound card is a simple USB dongle type & has no input gain control). I have adjusted the level to be similar to that with the antenna attenuator & monitor the daytime signals when they are present. This morning I had to re-boot the PC & restart the software so I am not sure how that will effect continuity with about 15 minutes monitoring missing due to Windows & Internet security updates. 73, Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. ------=_NextPart_000_0076_01C9A883.81D48320 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Andy, LF,<= /font>

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I have noticed that although I=20= can see the beacon using SpecLab the G3PLX software seems unable to detect the signal for SNR d= ata during the daytime.

 =

In view of this I have made a s= mall change to the way I attenuate the input to the sound card to see if it helps with daytime detection.

 =

I have removed the RF attenuato= r at the antenna input & placed an adjustable resistive attenuator in the audio f= eed to the sound card input (BTW, the sound card is a simple USB dongle type &am= p; has no input gain control). I have adjusted the level to be similar to that with the antenna attenuator & monitor the daytime signals when they are present.

 =

This morning I had to re-boot t= he PC & restart the software so I am not sure how that will effect continuity with about 15 minutes monitoring missing due to Windows & Internet security u= pdates.

 =

73,

 

Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.=

 

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Hi Jean-Pierre,LF
Nice capture F1afj,
Henny pa3cpm
best 73s
 
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
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16.mx.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID beckmann.erlangen@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #76) id 1LjL4s-0002bv-L3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 23:14:37 +0100 From: "Beckmann, Gerhard" To: References: <009001c9a588$7eb02c60$6401a8c0@asus> <00e001c9a5a7$f07216a0$6401a8c0@asus> <826BA6086575402A8C87062492069F5A@AGB> <004501c9a623$a4bf81d0$6401a8c0@asus> <2ED02F4327204E3C903828F9E18AA72B@AGB> <001e01c9a665$ebeac870$6401a8c0@asus> <00be01c9a66e$c8bfdbc0$0900a8c0@AM> <004a01c9a677$2a8b48a0$6401a8c0@asus> <005101c9a679$df148f50$6401a8c0@asus> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 23:14:32 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Acmmf7jnrf5SxfuMQnCt9YRvEED7QQABBNDg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: AW: LF: RE: Syncback software Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0020_01C9A68C.F8AC1830" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNSAFE,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01C9A68C.F8AC1830 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Andy, LF Group, =20 only G4JNT with 17 dB over noise. No signals on 5 and 6 minute slots=85. But very big QRM at DK6NI (sri) =20 =20 22:00 54,34 37,18 -240,5 1507,0 22:01 41,86 37,18 -240,5 0,0 22:02 37,90 37,18 -240,5 0,0 =20 vy 73 de Gerhard / DK6NI (JN59LN) =20 _____ =20 Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von Andy Talbot Gesendet: Montag, 16. M=E4rz 2009 22:36 An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Betreff: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software =20 See you just have - got quite a shock until I realised the noise had plummeted as well. Any takers for the 5 and 6 minute slots? Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/3/16 Gary - G4WGT Andy, =20 OK, I will insert an attenuator at the antenna socket (that=92s an easy move= ) & watch how it performs. It is switched at 10dB steps so I will start at 10db of course. =20 Cheers, =20 Gary. =20 _____ =20 From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Andy Talbot Sent: 16 March 2009 20:45=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software =20 Doesn't matter which - just total system gain. That S/W works best if the noise threshold rides at about 10dB above the baseline, then it allows for up to 70 - 80dB of signal peaks. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com =20 2009/3/16 Gary - G4WGT Alan, When you wrote :- my only comment is that you may have too much gain in the system. Are you meaning sound card or receiver gain? Gary. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Alan Melia Sent: 16 March 2009 19:38 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software Hi Gary my only comment is that you may have too much gain in the system. It is sometimes better to have the noise further down nearer the axis. I am afraid there is a major problem with this kind of beacon, when the fading period is shorter than the sampling interval, so you dont really know what the path is doing. The only reliable points are the peaks, the troughs dont really mean anything without some very sophisticated analysis and probably two spaced receivers. However it does give a snapshot of the band without taking up too much bandwidth (this was what was required for 5MHz too). Despite all the data collected very little analysis has actually be done on the 5MHz data collected by this program. The one succesfull bit of work was that published in Radcom by Marcis Walden G0IJZ. I used it for some time whilst Andy was testing the Poldhu beacon on 160m and also during the 1st two months that ran. I was certainly surprised by the daytime path on 160m from here. I have seen the data collected in Canada via Joe Craig VO1NA and it is difficult to see how to use it. Still if you dont collect the data you will never know!! Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 6:35 PM Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software > Hi Graham, LF, > > > > The original HTML Code for the 2 minute refresh is still inserted into the > page format, so upload is 30 minute intervals with Syncback & 2 minute > refresh. I have left the refresh in case I revert back to the original > grabber page. I will look at changing it if I continue to use the beacon > chart upload. > > > > I would like to have feedback from the LF group regarding the page, if you > check it out periodically, is it useful to you, what are you looking for. > > > > You can view the chart on my web site at :- > > > > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html > > > > 73 > > > > Gary - G4WGT. > > > > > > _____ > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham > Sent: 16 March 2009 17:20 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > Hi Gary, > > > > The page seemed to refresh quite often ... are there two settings ? > > > > G .. > > > > From: Gary - G4WGT > > Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:40 AM > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > Hi Graham, LF, > > > > You wrote :- > > >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute > intervals. <<< that could be backed off to 15 mins as the beacon only > sends every 15 ?? > > > > I mentioned in my previous mail to ignore the text on the page as it was > originally for grabber 1 for when I upgrade the web site (to a new design & > better navigation etc), also mentioned is that upload is every 30 minutes. > > > > If the uploaded chart proves useful or interesting to operators & viewers > then I will change the text & make it a permanent feature for the > foreseeable future. > > > > BTW :- > > > > For those of you who are not familiar with the chart - > > > > The RED trace is Andy's (G4JNT) beacon signal & the BLACK trace is the noise > level at my QTH. > > > > The Blue & GREEN are not in use & should be ignored on this chart as they > are for the other beacons used when monitoring on the 5MHz allocation. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Gary - G4WGT > > > > > > _____ > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham > Sent: 15 March 2009 22:17 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > Gary.. > > > > That looks good ... 0500 looks best time for a qso .. see you then Smile > emoticon > > > > >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute > intervals. <<< that could be backed off to 15 mins as the beacon only > sends every 15 ?? > > > > the 15 db over the noise in day time is the same at this qth .. looks like > the big dips round 1900 where just when we where testing .. typical hihi > > > > tnx- G .. > > > > From: Gary - G4WGT > > Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 7:55 PM > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > Subject: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > LF, > > > > I have now got the software, Syncback running correctly (I think). > > > > The purpose of this is to upload the chart from Andy's beacon as received > here to my web site periodically, ie. every 30 minutes. > > > > I now have a receiver running 24/7 monitoring Andy,s beacon on 503.7KHz. > > > > You can view the chart on my web site at :- > > > > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html > > > > For the moment ignore the text on the page as it is originally designed to > use with the 500KHz grabber when I renew my web site design. If it is a > useful upload I will make it a permanent feature but may have to extend the > frequency coverage of grabber 1 so not to overload the PC with operations > which will cause the PC to struggle. > > > > Let me have your comments please. > > > > 73 > > > > Gary - G4WGT. > > > > _____ > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT > Sent: 15 March 2009 16:10 > To: LF -RSGB LF Group > Subject: LF: Syncback software > > > > Hi LF, > > > > If anyone is using Syncback software & can help, please. > > > > I am tying to upload a file to my website who's filename does not change, > only the file size changes. I tried to do it with Argo-upload but failed so > I downloaded Syncback & still failing. > > > > Syncback gives me the following message :- > > > > ********************************** > > Can connect, but unable to change to destination directory: > > /chart01.bmp:not a directory > > ********************************** > > The Syncback help does not give me the answer. > > > > Any help will be appreciated > > > > Or > > > > Will Argo-Upload do it? > > > > Or > > > > Is there something else to do it? > > > > Thanks in anticipation, > > > > 73, > > > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. > > > > _____ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com =20 > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.13/2001 - Release Date: 03/14/09 > 06:54:00 > > _____ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com =20 > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.15/2003 - Release Date: 03/15/09 > 14:07:00 > > =20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01C9A68C.F8AC1830 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello Andy, LF Group,

 

only G4JNT wit= h 17 dB over noise.

No signals on=20= 5 and 6 minute slots….

But very big Q= RM at DK6NI (sri)

 

 

22:00=A0 54,34=A0 37,18= =A0 -240,5=A0 1507,0

22:01=A0 41,86=A0 37,18= =A0 -240,5=A0 0,0

22:02=A0 37,90=A0 37,18= =A0 -240,5=A0 0,0

 

vy 73 de Gerhard=A0 /= =A0 DK6NI=A0 (JN59LN)

 

Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g] Im Auftrag von Andy Talbo= t
Gesendet: Montag, 16. M=E4rz=20= 2009 22:36
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org
Betreff: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software

 

See you just have - got quite a shock until I realised t= he noise had plummeted as well.

Any takers for the 5 and 6 minute slots?


Andy  G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com

2009/3/16 Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>

Andy,

 

OK, I will=20= insert an attenuator at the antenna socket (that’s an easy move) & watch how= it performs. It is switched at 10dB steps so I will start at 10db of course.

 

Cheers,

 

Gary.

 

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Andy Talbot
Sent: 16 March 2009 20:45


To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software

 

Doesn't matter which - just total system gain.  That S/W works best if the nois= e threshold rides at about 10dB above the baseline,  then it allows for u= p to 70 - 80dB of signal peaks.


Andy  G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com

2009/3/16 Gary - G4WGT <g4= wgt@tiscali.co.uk>

Alan,

When you wrote :-

my only comment is that you may= have too much gain in the system.

Are you meaning sound card or receiver gain?

Gary.



-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org

[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Alan Melia
Sent: 16 March 2009 19:38

To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software

Hi Gary=20= my only comment is that you may have too much gain in the system. It
is sometimes better to have the noise further down nearer the axis.

I am afraid there is a major problem with this kind of beacon, when the
fading period is shorter than the sampling interval, so you dont really know=
what the path is doing. The only reliable points are the peaks, the troughs<= br> dont really mean anything without some very sophisticated analysis and
probably two spaced receivers. However it does give a snapshot of the band without taking up too much bandwidth (this was what was required for 5MHz too). Despite all the data collected very little analysis has actually be done on the 5MHz data collected by this program. The one succesfull bit of work was that published in Radcom by Marcis Walden G0IJZ. I used it for some=
time whilst Andy was testing the Poldhu beacon on 160m and also during the 1st two months that ran. I was certainly surprised by the daytime path on 160m from here. I have seen the data collected in Canada via= Joe Craig VO1NA
and it is difficult to see how to use it.

Still if you dont collect the data you will never know!!

Alan G3NYK




----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
To: <rs= gb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 6:35 PM
Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software


> Hi Graham, LF,
>
>
>
> The original HTML Code for the 2 minute refresh is still inserted into=20= the
> page format, so upload is 30 minute intervals with Syncback & 2 min= ute
> refresh. I have left the refresh in case I revert back to the original<= br> > grabber page. I will look at changing it if I continue to use the beaco= n
> chart upload.
>
>
>
> I would like to have feedback from the LF group regarding the page, if=20= you
> check it out periodically, is it useful to you, what are you looking fo= r.
>
>
>
> You can view the chart on my web site at :-
>
>
>
> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html
>
>
>
> 73
>
>
>
> Gary - G4WGT.
>
>
>
>
>
>   _____
>
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham
> Sent: 16 March 2009 17:20
> To: r= sgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software
>
>
>
> Hi Gary,
>
>
>
> The page seemed to  refresh quite often ... are there two settings= ?
>
>
>
> G ..
>
>
>
> From: Gary - G4WGT <mailto:g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
>
> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:40 AM
>
> To: r= sgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>
> Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software
>
>
>
> Hi Graham, LF,
>
>
>
> You wrote :-
>
> >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute
> intervals. <<< that could be backed off to  15 mins as th= e beacon only
> sends every 15 ??
>
>
>
> I mentioned in my previous mail to ignore the text on the page as it wa= s
> originally for grabber 1 for when I upgrade the web site (to a new desi= gn
&
> better navigation etc), also mentioned is that upload is every 30 minut= es.
>
>
>
> If the uploaded chart proves useful or interesting to operators & viewers
> then I will change the text & make it a permanent feature for the > foreseeable future.
>
>
>
> BTW :-
>
>
>
> For those of you  who are not familiar with the chart -
>
>
>
> The RED trace is Andy's (G4JNT) beacon signal & the BLACK trace is=20= the
noise
> level at my QTH.
>
>
>
> The Blue & GREEN are not in use & should be ignored on this cha= rt as they
> are for the other beacons used when monitoring on the 5MHz allocation.<= br> >
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> Gary - G4WGT
>
>
>
>
>
>   _____
>
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham
> Sent: 15 March 2009 22:17
> To: r= sgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software
>
>
>
> Gary..
>
>
>
> That looks good  ... 0500 looks best time for a qso .. see you the= n Smile
> emoticon
>
>
>
> >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute
> intervals. <<< that could be backed off to  15 mins as th= e beacon only
> sends every 15 ??
>
>
>
> the  15 db over the noise in day time is the  same at this qt= h ... looks
like
> the big dips round 1900  where just when we where testing ..  typical hihi
>
>
>
> tnx- G ..
>
>
>
> From: Gary - G4WGT <mailto:g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
>
> Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 7:55 PM
>
> To: r= sgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>
> Subject: LF: RE: Syncback software
>
>
>
> LF,
>
>
>
> I have now got the software, Syncback running correctly (I think).
>
>
>
> The purpose of this is to upload the chart from Andy's beacon as receiv= ed
> here to my web site periodically, ie. every 30 minutes.
>
>
>
> I now have a receiver running 24/7 monitoring Andy,s beacon on 503.7KHz= .
>
>
>
> You can view the chart on my web site at :-
>
>
>
> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html
>
>
>
> For the moment ignore the text on the page as it is originally designed= to
> use with the 500KHz grabber when I renew my web site design. If it is a=
> useful upload I will make it a permanent feature but may have to extend=
the
> frequency coverage of grabber 1 so not to overload the PC with operatio= ns
> which will cause the PC to struggle.
>
>
>
> Let me have your comments please.
>
>
>
> 73
>
>
>
> Gary - G4WGT.
>
>
>
>   _____
>
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT
> Sent: 15 March 2009 16:10
> To: LF -RSGB LF Group
> Subject: LF: Syncback software
>
>
>
> Hi LF,
>
>
>
> If anyone is using Syncback software & can help, please.
>
>
>
> I am tying to upload a file to my website who's filename does not chang= e,
> only the file size changes. I tried to do it with Argo-upload but faile= d
so
> I downloaded Syncback & still failing.
>
>
>
> Syncback gives me the following message :-
>
>
>
> **********************************
>
> Can connect, but unable to change to destination directory:
>
> /chart01.bmp:not a directory
>
> **********************************
>
> The Syncback help does not give me the answer.
>
>
>
> Any help will be appreciated
>
>
>
> Or
>
>
>
> Will Argo-Upload do it?
>
>
>
> Or
>
>
>
> Is there something else to do it?
>
>
>
> Thanks in anticipation,
>
>
>
> 73,
>
>
>
> Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.
>
>
>
>   _____
>
>
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG - www.= avg.com
> Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.13/2001 - Release Date: 03/14= /09
> 06:54:00
>
>   _____
>
>
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG - www.= avg.com
> Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.15/2003 - Release Date: 03/15= /09
> 14:07:00
>
>

 

 

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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m240.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Marco, Thank you! --=20 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 1:02 PM, Scholz, Marco wrote= : > Hello Warren, > I have 2 pages - schematic and pcb board. > You can download from > http://dd7pc.qsl.nu/dd7pc_137khz_files/ropex_schematic_01.jpg and > http://dd7pc.qsl.nu/dd7pc_137khz_files/ropex_schematic_02.jpg > > Vy73 > Marco > DD7PC > > ----- Originalnachricht ----- > Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Gesendet: Fri Mar 20 17:31:46 2009 > Betreff: Re: LF: Ropex Info? > > Marco, > > =A0 =A0Thank you! > > -- > 73 Warren K2ORS > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0WD2XGJ > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0WD2XSH/23 > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0WE2XEB/2 > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0WE2XGR/1 > > > On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 12:23 PM, Scholz, Marco wr= ote: >> Hello Warren, >> I have also a Ropex and will scan the light documentation for you. >> The only modification I did was a socket for the xtal, so I can easily ch= ange the frequency. I have anyway the top cover removed, because with an add= itional big fan I can ran QRSS60. Without I think QRSS3 is the maximum. >> I also need a low pass filter in front off my loading coil as described o= n the great website http://wireless.org.uk/ropex.htm >> >> Vy73 >> Marco >> DD7PC >> >> >> ----- Originalnachricht ----- >> Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> An: rsgb_lf_group >> Gesendet: Fri Mar 20 16:51:34 2009 >> Betreff: LF: Ropex Info? >> >> Hello the list, >> >> =A0 =A0 I have just acquired a Ropex "The First" transmitter for 136kHz - >> but without documentation of any kind. >> I know that Ropex did not supply anything more than a single sheet of >> instructions but I'm lacking even that. >> Questions: >> 1) Anyone have a copy of the instruction sheet that they could copy or sc= an? >> 2) Any info on mods (injecting an external vfo for example)? >> 3) Anybody do any 'reverse engineering' of the circuit? >> >> Any info at all is much appreciated! >> From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md01.mx.aol.com 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Mike, G3XDV ========== From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md02.mx.aol.com (rly-md02.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.140]) by air-md04.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMD041-8eb49b10377114; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 06:05:52 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md02.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD023-8eb49b10377114; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 06:05:30 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LfXqK-0001xk-Rh for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 11:03:52 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LfXqJ-0001xb-On for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 11:03:51 +0000 Received: from mail-bw0-f164.google.com ([209.85.218.164]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LfXqH-0005YY-Ve for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 11:03:51 +0000 Received: by bwz8 with SMTP id 8so361991bwz.4 for ; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 03:03:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=CBkPQrTxEbZINXMZa8pdolItmyyXjRvOYJsX/XRzDEk=; b=mOlQoEWN9qJ+2bg4chMc8kG5+2vGvEyI9OhQpxq17tbjg7haEfMwFiIDC6LPrM0FpP mQIdMLMi8OS9j4dDAY5odZ5ksD7aZdi+hbLFShVnEL8j8q64jzNpFbHR8nAtoCi177EO MPvAgyuojyi6Qb4Ql1Gax3fUi77EZJ/6MV18g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; b=uDuYOySKKLPAHXJTGCVGAgEtUxx0rWrFZEwIT3p9KvhL0bQkEkxtNFcqYcwmz7GFFF XTNSr9r3q9I8TLGzMcnxEtZt1k8FW5fiF7lJv19juQKmilEiJwpV5Z8724LWDRpPOjMe qUDB3zECRte29egj0v/jWcQmoqiGFHsrayfjw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.113.132 with SMTP id a4mr1881930faq.75.1236337421935; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 03:03:41 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 11:03:41 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Cc: "jfell@tesco.net" DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_10_20=0.945,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Multi-function beacon Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5a84edb64420464713c48 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d284.1 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : fail X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --001636c5a84edb64420464713c48 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've now started transmitting a timed beacon signal on 503.7kHz that is identical in format to that of GB3SSS operated over the winter months of the last two years from Poldhu on 1.9 and 3.5MHz, and has a similar signal structure to the 5MHz beacons, GB3RAL, WES and ORK. These all have an initial CW ident and stepped power levels for aural reception, and a precisely defined period of full-power plain carrier for S/N measurements. See http://www.rsgb-spectrumforum.org.uk/5mhz%20beacons.htm for the complete 5MHz signal structure. For this MF transmission, as on GB3SSS, the pulsed sounder sequence of the 5MHz beacons is replaced with a PSK31 message which lasts from 30s to approx 48 seconds after the start Auto Monitoring software writen by G3PLX is available for monitoring these beacons, it measures signal to noise during the carrier period and saves to file as well as plotting the last 40 hours worth of measurements. The software can be downloaded from http://www.rsgb.org/spectrumforum/hf/beaconauto.php . PSK31 data can be copied with Digipan, Fldigi, PSK31SBW or a host of other packages. *TIMING * The 503.7kHz transmission takes place every 15 minutes at 4 minutes past the quarter hour. ie each transmission starts at *xx:04, xx:19, xx:34 and xx:49 * This time slot has been selected so that the transmission do not interfere with my continuous ongoing reception of the 5Mhz beacons - the active antenna used for these is overloaded by the 500kHz signal and I have already lost data when the WSPR beacon transmission coincided with one of the monitoring windows. NOTE If using the G3PLX software, this only monitors for the three 5MHz beacons at 00, 01 and 02 minutes. *SO IT WILL BE NECESSARY TO FRIG THE SOFTWARE * to monitor this transmission at the 04 minute point. The necessary alteration can be done by firstly setting your PC clock accurately to the correct time, then setting the Track Time box to -240 (minus 240 seconds). This will make the software look for this transmission during the time window it thinks it would be receiving GB3RAL, and log the MF transmission during the first minute, on the red trace, as if it were GB3RAL The beacon uses the identical hardware to the WSPR transmissions of the last few weeks, with the the only change being a reprogramming of the controller PIC. In fact the very same hardware was previously loaned to the Poldhu club for their beacons, with the only difference being a change to the final Low Pass filter on the output of the broadband PA. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com --001636c5a84edb64420464713c48 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I've now=A0started transmitting a timed=A0 beacon signal on 503.7kH= z that is=A0identical in format to that of GB3SSS operated over the winter m= onths of the last two years=A0=A0from Poldhu on 1.9 and 3.5MHz, =A0and has= =A0a similar signal structure to the 5MHz beacons, GB3RAL, WES and ORK.=A0 T= hese all have=A0an initial CW ident and=A0stepped power levels for aural rec= eption,=A0and a precisely defined period of full-power plain carrier for S/N= measurements.=A0=A0
See=A0 =A0http://www.rsgb-spectrumforum.org.uk/5mhz%20beacons.htm=A0 for th= e complete 5MHz =A0signal structure.=A0=A0For this MF transmission, as on GB= 3SSS, the pulsed sounder sequence of the 5MHz beacons is replaced with a PSK= 31 message which lasts from=A030s to approx 48 seconds after the start
=A0
Auto Monitoring software writen by G3PLX is available for monitoring th= ese beacons, it measures signal to noise during the carrier period and saves= to file as well as plotting the last 40 hours worth of measurements.
The software can be downloaded from=A0 http://www.rsgb.org/spectrumforum/hf/beacona= uto.php=A0.=A0=A0 PSK31 data can be copied with Digipan, Fldigi, PSK31SB= W or a host of other packages.
=A0
TIMING
The 503.7kHz transmission takes place every 15 minutes at 4 minutes pas= t the quarter hour.=A0
ie=A0each transmission starts at xx:04, xx:19, xx:34 and xx:49= =A0=A0=A0=A0This time slot has been selected so that the transmissi= on do not interfere with my continuous ongoing reception of the 5Mhz beacons= - the active antenna used for these is overloaded by the 500kHz signal and=20= I have already lost data when the WSPR beacon transmission coincided with on= e of the monitoring windows.
=A0
NOTE=A0=A0 If using the=A0G3PLX software, this only=A0monitors for the=20= three 5MHz beacons at =A000, 01 and 02 minutes.
SO IT WILL BE NECESSARY=A0TO FRIG=A0THE SOFTWARE =A0to= monitor this=A0transmission at the 04 minute point.=A0=A0=A0The necessary a= lteration can be done by firstly setting=A0your PC clock accurately to the c= orrect time, then setting the Track Time box to -240 (minus 240 seconds)..= =A0 This will make the software look for this transmission during the time= =A0window it thinks it would be receiving GB3RAL, and log the=A0MF transmiss= ion during the first minute, on the red trace, as if it were GB3RAL=A0
=A0
The beacon uses the identical hardware to the=A0WSPR transmissions of= =A0the last few weeks, with the the only change being a=A0reprogramming of t= he controller PIC.=A0=A0 In fact the very same hardware was previously loane= d to the Poldhu club for their beacons, with the only difference being a cha= nge to the final Low Pass filter on the output of the broadband PA.
=A0
Andy =A0G4JNT
--001636c5a84edb64420464713c48-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg09.mx.aol.com (rly-dg09.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.93]) by air-dg03.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDG033-5f149c34e86cd; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 04:06:49 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg09.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG096-5f149c34e86cd; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 04:06:32 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LkZkE-0008Jw-H5 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 08:06:22 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LkZkE-0008Jn-3K for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 08:06:22 +0000 Received: from psmtp09.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.23]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LkZkB-0003nW-Sm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 08:06:22 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp09.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KGS00CSWP67AK@psmtp09.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 09:06:08 +0100 (MET) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 09:06:01 +0100 From: henny van elst To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-id: <96BF99D9A8BD48F3A8188A31EFE51D62@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <650F5744AD854ABD8276029657B4AB17@ns94d01ae4d850> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: F6AFJ 19-03.jpg Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_pZBT7oAvFReCpB1NrzvJkg)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_pZBT7oAvFReCpB1NrzvJkg) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Hi J-P, Your pc transmit a 6,not a 1,I think,look at the capture, henny cpm 73s ----- Original Message ----- From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 9:06 PM Subject: LF: F6AFJ 19-03.jpg Hi Jean-Pierre and All, strong signal 137khz Henny pa3cpm best 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: F6AFJ 19-03.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.18/2008 - Release Date: 03/17/09 16:25:00 --Boundary_(ID_pZBT7oAvFReCpB1NrzvJkg) Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
Hi J-P,
Your pc transmit a 6,not a 1,I think,look at the capture,
henny cpm
73s
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 9:06 PM
Subject: LF: F6AFJ 19-03.jpg

Hi Jean-Pierre and All,
strong signal 137khz
    Henny pa3cpm
best 73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
F6AFJ 19-03.jpg

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--Boundary_(ID_pZBT7oAvFReCpB1NrzvJkg)-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg05.mx.aol.com (rly-mg05.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.111]) by air-mg03.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG033-a0f49cb43e730; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 04:59:45 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg05.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG051-a0f49cb43e730; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 04:59:21 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LmlPj-0006sq-My for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 08:58:15 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LmlPj-0006sh-C9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 08:58:15 +0000 Received: from psmtp08.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.22]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LmlPh-0000Ma-JH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 08:58:15 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp08.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KH300LI2VKVKZ@psmtp08.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 09:58:08 +0100 (MET) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 09:58:08 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: DD7PC SIGNAL.jpg Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_t9PSWG9TzaL+4ek7uYZqGA)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_t9PSWG9TzaL+4ek7uYZqGA) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_Lg9iJka2IFEsDWU5iS5Upg)" --Boundary_(ID_Lg9iJka2IFEsDWU5iS5Upg) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT the capture marco henny cpm --Boundary_(ID_Lg9iJka2IFEsDWU5iS5Upg) Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
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GM3BST and G3GNR active at present on CW. Good signals just worked both. 73 mal/g3kev ------=_NextPart_000_03D0_01C9AD83.00A53D80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
CW acty this evening.
GM3BST and G3GNR active at present on CW. G= ood=20 signals just worked both.
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dell-rik.fys.kuleuven.be (dhcp-10-33-85-199.fys.kuleuven.be [10.33.85.199]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42AB031E703 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 11:57:17 +0100 (CET) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 11:57:48 +0100 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe In-Reply-To: <000001c99ac8$92fa8c80$0b01a8c0@weazle> References: <49AAF908.7040906@charter.net> <20090301223044.8i4kbe2osr5wco8o@webmail4.kuleuven.be> <49AB04A1.2030308@charter.net> <017801c99ab9$f8e9a9e0$6401a8c0@asus> <49AB098D.1020505@charter.net> <000001c99ac8$92fa8c80$0b01a8c0@weazle> Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20090302105717.42AB031E703@smtps01.kuleuven.be> X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WE2XGR/3 WSPR tonight Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 >I've been watching for WE2XVY as well, but nothing so far. >I guess I'll be more likely than Rik to get a copy! I just had a look at the wsprnet.org database and besides those from KD7LMO (at 63km) no copies of WE2XVY were reported. This seems a bit odd as a 1 W ERP signal should produce good copy over 1000 or even 2000 km. If the given locators at wsprnet.org are correct K1CT in DM12jt (who was reporting WE2XGR last night) should only be +/- 600 km away from WE2XVY. Does anyone have information about WE2XVY ? 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da05.mx.aol.com (rly-da05.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.79]) by air-da04.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA044-a6f49c74daec9; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 04:52:14 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da05.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA057-a6f49c74daec9; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 04:52:01 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LlfsK-0004bP-Lc for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 08:51:16 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LlfsK-0004bG-3f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 08:51:16 +0000 Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.44]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LlfsG-0000pP-7G for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 08:51:16 +0000 Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (smtpshost02.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.75]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FC8551C011 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 09:50:31 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CCB1F3863 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 09:50:31 +0100 (CET) Received: from dell-rik.fys.kuleuven.be (dhcp-10-33-85-199.fys.kuleuven.be [10.33.85.199]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52ABEF3862 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 09:50:31 +0100 (CET) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 09:50:35 +0100 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20090323085031.52ABEF3862@smtps02.kuleuven.be> X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: 1.4 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_10_20=0.945,HTML_FONT_FACE_BAD=0.452,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: definition of telegraphy Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_231705109==.ALT" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --=====================_231705109==.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Dear all, in Belgium we have access to 500kHz since about 1 year. Conditions (limitations) are: - 501-504kHz - max. 5 W EIRP - only telegraphy - max. 100Hz bandwidth - only full license holders ITU Recommendation R V.662-3 defines telegraphy as "A form of telecommunication in which the transmitted information is intended to be recorded on arrival as a graphic document; the transmitted information may sometimes be presented in an alternative form or may be stored for subsequent use.". So digital modes could be considered telegraphy and thus allowed on 500kHz. As we (UBA) reached the 500kHz access only after long negotiations with BIPT (our Ofcom / FCC) we are very careful in what we do. Therefor we asked BIPT if they would agree with our point of view. After internal (read BIPT legal department) consultation BIPT agreed with us. So from now on we can use digital modes on 500kHz. The 100Hz bandwidth limitation is still in force, but there is plenty of digital modes that stay within this limit. 73, Rik ON7YD Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm --=====================_231705109==.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Dear all,

in Belgium we have access to 500kHz  since about 1 year.
Conditions (limitations) are:
- 501-504kHz
- max. 5 W EIRP
- only telegraphy
- max. 100Hz bandwidth
- only full license holders
ITU Recommendation R V.662-3 defines telegraphy as "A form of telecommunication in which the transmitted information is intended to be recorded on arrival as a graphic document; the transmitted information may sometimes be presented in an alternative form or may be stored for subsequent use.". So digital modes could be considered telegraphy and thus allowed on 500kHz.
As we (UBA) reached the 500kHz access only after long negotiations with BIPT (our Ofcom / FCC) we are very careful in what we do. Therefor we asked BIPT if they would agree with our point of view.
After internal (read BIPT legal department) consultation BIPT agreed with us.
So from now on we can use digital modes on 500kHz. The 100Hz bandwidth limitation is still in force, but there is plenty of digital modes that stay within this limit.

73, Rik  ON7YD

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--=====================_231705109==.ALT-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de06.mx.aol.com (rly-de06.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.142]) by air-de07.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDE074-4e549b3dc171c1; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 10:54:22 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de06.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE068-4e549b3dc171c1; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 10:54:17 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LgKNj-00062n-Pf for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 14:53:35 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LgKNj-00062e-Ap for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 14:53:35 +0000 Received: from smtprelay0032.hostedemail.com ([216.40.44.32] helo=smtprelay.hostedemail.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LgKNi-0006xY-Ji for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 14:53:35 +0000 Received: from filter.hostedemail.com (ff-bigip1 [10.5.19.254]) by smtprelay03.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 9B28CE4BBA2 for ; Sun, 8 Mar 2009 14:53:29 +0000 (UTC) X-SpamScore: 1 X-Spam-Summary: 10,1,0,5fb29d2548861680,01ee257d81aa0776,peter.cleall@virgin.net,rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org,RULES_HIT:152:355:375:379:962:972:983:988:989:1189:1208:1224:1260:1311:1313:1314:1345:1373:1436:1437:1515:1516:1517:1534:1540:1588:1589:1593:1594:1676:1711:1714:1730:1747:1766:1792:2198:2199:2378:2393:2559:2562:2902:3280:3351:3865:3866:3867:3868:3870:3873:3874:3876:3877:4250:5007:6114:6119:6261:7903:8501:9391,0,RBL:none,CacheIP:none,Bayesian:0.5,0.5,0.5,Netcheck:none,DomainCache:0,MSF:not bulk,SPF:,MSBL:none,DNSBL:none Received: from webmail03 (imap-ext [216.40.42.5]) (Authenticated sender: peter.cleall@virgin.net) by omf06.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 8 Mar 2009 14:53:29 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 14:53:29 +0000 (GMT) From: Peter Cleall To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <1794381892.23372.1236524009509.JavaMail.mail@webmail03> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-session-marker: 70657465722E636C65616C6C4076697267696E2E6E6574 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,MIME_HTML_ONLY=0.001 Subject: LF: energy saving bulbs Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, MIME_HTML_ONLY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version)

For many years I have avoided using the energy saving bulbs under the impression that they were major RF pollutents. I am under increasing pressure to move to using these bulbs.

 

 Are my concerns still the case or are they old fashioned and out of date.

Do you have experience of using these bulbs in the home.

Do modern versions interfer with your Radio receiving , I am interested in signals from 15 kHz to 500 MHz.

Are there specific types or manufactures to be avoided

Any thoughts would be appreciaated

regards

peter


 

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de06.mx.aol.com (rly-de06.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.142]) by air-de07.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDE072-4e149b39fbe363; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 06:37:00 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de06.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE064-4e149b39fbe363; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 06:36:48 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LgGMP-0002sZ-39 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 10:35:57 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LgGMO-0002sQ-O7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 10:35:56 +0000 Received: from psmtp09.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.23]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LgGMN-0007C0-Na for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 10:35:56 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp09.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KG6003T9O3A3X@psmtp09.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 11:35:34 +0100 (MET) Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2009 11:35:30 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <552E4D8090C443129A866221CE713901@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: XGJ 08-03.jpg Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_H/vM26+cc7uSp3q3zpwLTA)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_H/vM26+cc7uSp3q3zpwLTA) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_GsnOBT9cdd0Ds5jD4ax35w)" --Boundary_(ID_GsnOBT9cdd0Ds5jD4ax35w) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Hi Warren,lf capture XGJ Henny pa3cpm 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: XGJ 08-03.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld. --Boundary_(ID_GsnOBT9cdd0Ds5jD4ax35w) Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
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MAILINDB064-ac149ca720519e; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 14:03:55 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db04.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB047-ac149ca720519e; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 14:03:52 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LmXR9-0001Nu-Kw for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 18:02:47 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LmXR9-0001Nl-3D for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 18:02:47 +0000 Received: from [193.252.22.192] (helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LmXR6-00024k-SV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 18:02:47 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3626.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 2929A7000088 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 19:02:29 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.50.116]) by mwinf3626.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id DCD9D7000085 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 19:02:28 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20090325180228904.DCD9D7000085@mwinf3626.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: References: <86B4F549F8F247DDA470143B3BE77364@Hugh> <008c01c9ad63$4e9a9190$6401a8c0@asus> In-Reply-To: <008c01c9ad63$4e9a9190$6401a8c0@asus> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 18:02:28 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8064.206 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8064.206 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: LF: WSPR Beacon 502.4 KHz Take 2 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME, UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Making hay while the sun (doesn't shine) ...take 2 Due to problems tx and rx .! Running WSPR Beacon as of 1800 GMT G0NBD 502.4 DIAL NOW TILL LATER POSS OVER NIGHT (will confirm near 2400) Tnx- G .. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh04.mx.aol.com (rly-mh04.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.140]) by air-mh01.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMH014-bcf49ab06f41d7; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 17:07:11 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH047-bcf49ab06f41d7; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 17:06:46 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ldto1-0001PS-1C for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 22:06:41 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ldto0-0001PJ-LD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 22:06:40 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-2-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.53]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ldtnv-0005N3-8Q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 22:06:40 +0000 X-Trace: 158706751/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.83.13/None/g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.83.13 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Microsoft Office Outlook 11Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArcEAB+VqklYalMN/2dsb2JhbACDLYZyg2bGXweEEwY X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,285,1233532800"; d="scan'208";a="158706751" Received: from 88-106-83-13.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.83.13]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 01 Mar 2009 22:06:29 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <49AAF908.7040906@charter.net> <20090301223044.8i4kbe2osr5wco8o@webmail4.kuleuven.be> <49AB04A1.2030308@charter.net> Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 22:06:28 -0000 Message-ID: <017801c99ab9$f8e9a9e0$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <49AB04A1.2030308@charter.net> thread-index: AcmauPFQa9ZuzHcOQDKgsQzYvzqNpgAAKYSA X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: RE: LF: WE2XGR/3 WSPR tonight Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi John, Don't forget we see an NDB "Z" carrier on 508.000 KHz, plus or minus from that would be preferred for WSPR signal. 73 Gary - G4WGT. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of John Andrews Sent: 01 March 2009 21:57 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; 600MRG Subject: Re: LF: WE2XGR/3 WSPR tonight Rik, Yes, I can use 508.000 as a center frequency. So that'll put the dial frequency down to 506.500. The WE2XVY signal would certainly be a challenge for you! So XGR/3 will be on 508.000 starting at 2330Z. John Andrews, WE2XGR/3 Rik Strobbe wrote: > Hello John, > > is +/- 508.00 instead of 508.50 an option ? > That way we would have you and WE2XVY (on 507.985) in the same WSPR > window ? > > 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > > Quoting John Andrews : > >> I will run a WSPR beacon on 508.500 kHz tonight from 2330 to 0300 UTC. >> That's a dial frequency of 507.000 kHz. Reports are welcome. >> >> John Andrews, WE2XGR/3 > > > > Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.5/1978 - Release Date: 03/01/09 07:04:00 > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf05.mx.aol.com (rly-mf05.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.175]) by air-mf06.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMF061-95f49b500e63b3; Mon, 09 Mar 2009 07:43:58 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf05.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF055-95f49b500e63b3; Mon, 09 Mar 2009 07:43:37 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LgdsH-0004MY-Ax for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Mar 2009 11:42:25 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LgdsG-0004MP-V8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Mar 2009 11:42:24 +0000 Received: from ttsmtp-2.cpwnetworks.com ([62.24.128.243] helo=ttsmtp.cpwnetworks.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LgdsG-0001Q1-A9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Mar 2009 11:42:24 +0000 X-Path: TalkTalk-smtp X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqAGADidtElZ8IJs/2dsb2JhbACCJSyBaIRKgj8GxSOEBQY Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([89.240.130.108]) by ttsmtp.cpwnetworks.com with SMTP; 09 Mar 2009 11:42:18 +0000 Message-ID: <003e01c9a0ac$19a7dba0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 11:42:16 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: MF HF Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003B_01C9A0AC.18BE3EF0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01C9A0AC.18BE3EF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Nw cq on 502.6 khz also active on 5406 khz on CW all callers welcome on both= bands. I have worked some nice DX on the 5 mhz band recently. Work xband if necessary de mal/g3kev ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01C9A0AC.18BE3EF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Nw cq on 502.6 khz also active on 5406 khz=20= on CW=20 all callers welcome on both bands. I have worked some  nice DX on the 5= mhz=20 band recently.
Work xband if necessary
de mal/g3kev
 
------=_NextPart_000_003B_01C9A0AC.18BE3EF0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc03.mx.aol.com (rly-dc03.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.32]) by air-dc01.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC014-b1449ca73f01ca; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 14:12:19 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc03.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC038-b1449ca73f01ca; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 14:12:01 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LmXZW-0001VG-KT for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 18:11:26 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LmXZW-0001V7-2X for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 18:11:26 +0000 Received: from [193.252.22.192] (helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LmXZS-0000R0-GT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 18:11:25 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3626.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id E35FF7000086 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 19:11:16 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.50.116]) by mwinf3626.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 36FD77000085 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 19:11:16 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20090325181116225.36FD77000085@mwinf3626.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <82AC635A6C9F4BADB9DB66442C226E0F@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <864ED1778706409D9A640FF89C5F22C7@Silver> <35BC7A5BC84143BB916FEAA9FA0B67CF@AGB> <6F3FEF77C5114A42BB288377EFF89835@2a2d7ed321c6425> <4C20F995A547459D94F4739B09D1441F@DR2> In-Reply-To: <4C20F995A547459D94F4739B09D1441F@DR2> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 18:11:15 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8064.206 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8064.206 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: Re: LF: Re: AW: WSPR G0NBD 502.4 DIAL NOW TILL LATER POSS OVER NIGHT Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00E1_01C9AD75.1674EBF0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE,LINES_OF_YELLING, LINES_OF_YELLING_2,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME,UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_00E1_01C9AD75.1674EBF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dave Thanks for the reports .. Andy ku4xr missed the window=20 so running again tonight .. wx is stable .. I will see if it trips=20 from now (1800) till 2400 .. but will maintain tx until 0100 see 9 sync pulses .. good signal ??=20 holding at 150 watts carrier so far .. I think the 120 sec tx period=20 tends to dry things out and change the tune.. swr was 2.5 :1 when i check= ed after the run .. started virtually 1:1 .1=20 Making hay while the sun (doesn't shine) TAKE 2 =20 =20 G0NBD 502.4 DIAL NOW TILL LATER POSS OVER NIGHT=20 =20 Tnx- G .. From: dave.riley3=20 Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 1:20 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Cc: 600MRG=20 Subject: LF: Re: AW: WSPR G0NBD 502.4 DIAL NOW TILL LATER POSS OVER NIGHT QSL G0NBD 090325 0050 9 -21 1.5 0.503938 G0NBD IO83 13 Hello Graham, You still had 10 DBs to spare for a decode!!! Try 2 milliwatts... Looks like 155,700 miles per watt... Good on ya... PSE QSL VIA E-MAIL... ( hi hi ) Dave @ WD2XSH/17 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Beckmann, Gerhard=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 7:47 PM Subject: LF: AW: WSPR G0NBD 502.4 DIAL NOW TILL LATER POSS OVER NIGHT =20 Hello Graham, =20 nice signal here in JN59LN =20 2338 -17 1.8 0.503980 -1 G0NBD IO83 13 =20 Vy 73 de Gerhard / DK6NI =20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =20 =20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacks= heep.org] Im Auftrag von Graham Gesendet: Dienstag, 24. M=E4rz 2009 23:35 An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Betreff: LF: WSPR G0NBD 502.4 DIAL NOW TILL LATER POSS OVER NIGHT=20 =20 Making hay while the sun (doesn't shine)=20 =20 G0NBD 502.4 DIAL NOW TILL LATER POSS OVER NIGHT=20 =20 Tnx- G .. =20 =20 =20 =20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.5.283 / Virus Database: 270.11.27/2021 - Release Date: 03/24/09 1= 6:00:00 ------=_NextPart_000_00E1_01C9AD75.1674EBF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Dave

 

Thanks=20 for the  reports  .. Andy ku4xr missed the  window=20

so=20 running again tonight .. wx is stable .. I will see if it  trips=20

from=20 now (1800) till 2400  .. but will maintain tx  until=20 0100

 

see=20 9 sync pulses .. good  signal ??

 

holding=20 at 150 watts carrier so far .. I think the  120 sec tx period=20

tends=20 to  dry things out and  change the  tune.. swr was 2.5 :1 whe= n i=20 checked

after=20 the  run .. started virtually  1:1 .1

 

 

Making =20 hay while the  sun (doesn't shine)  TAKE 2 =20  

 

G0NBD=20 502.4 DIAL NOW TILL LATER POSS OVER NIGHT=20

 

Tnx-=20 G ..


Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 1:20 AM
Cc: 600MRG
Subject: LF: Re: AW: WSPR G0NBD 502.4 DIAL NOW TILL LATER POSS O= VER=20 NIGHT

QSL G0NBD
 
 
090325 0050   9 -21  1.5 &nb= sp;=20 0.503938  G0NBD IO83 13
 
 
Hello Graham,
 
You still had 10 DBs to spare for a decode!!! Tr= y 2=20 milliwatts...
 
Looks like 155,700 miles per=20 watt...
 
Good on ya... PSE QSL VIA E-MAIL... ( hi hi=20 )
 
 
Dave @ WD2XSH/17
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Beckmann, Gerhard
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 7:47=20 PM
Subject: LF: AW: WSPR G0NBD 502.4 D= IAL=20 NOW TILL LATER POSS OVER NIGHT

 

Hello=20 Graham,

 

nice=20 signal here in JN59LN

 

2338=20  -17  1.8   0.503980 -1 G0NBD IO83=20 13

 

Vy 73=20= de=20 Gerhard  /  DK6NI

 

= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

 

=  <= /FONT>

Von: owner-= rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= ] Im Auftrag von <= /SPAN>Graham
Gesendet: Dienstag, 24. M=E4rz 2009=20 23:35
An: rsgb_= lf_group@blacksheep.org
Betreff: LF: WSPR G0NBD 502.4 DIAL NOW=20 TILL LATER POSS OVER NIGHT

 

Making =20 hay while the  sun (doesn't shine)=20

 

G0NBD=20 502.4 DIAL NOW TILL LATER POSS OVER NIGHT=20

 

Tnx-=20 G ..

 

 

 

 =


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------=_NextPart_000_00E1_01C9AD75.1674EBF0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma06.mx.aol.com (rly-ma06.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.50]) by air-ma09.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMA093-8b449aafe9e241; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 16:31:29 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma06.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA066-8b449aafe9e241; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 16:31:12 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LdtFN-0000r9-Ty for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 21:30:53 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LdtFN-0000r0-HJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 21:30:53 +0000 Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.44]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LdtFM-0005dq-QP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 21:30:53 +0000 Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (smtpshost02.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.75]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 426A751C007 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 22:30:45 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id D21CCF3863 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 22:30:44 +0100 (CET) Received: from webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.242.4]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id C52F9F3862 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 22:30:44 +0100 (CET) Received: by webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 1500155C0; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 22:30:44 +0100 (CET) Received: from 93.215-136-217.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (93.215-136-217.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [217.136.215.93]) by webmail4.kuleuven.be (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 22:30:44 +0100 Message-ID: <20090301223044.8i4kbe2osr5wco8o@webmail4.kuleuven.be> Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 22:30:44 +0100 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <49AAF908.7040906@charter.net> In-Reply-To: <49AAF908.7040906@charter.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 217.136.215.93 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WE2XGR/3 WSPR tonight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello John, is +/- 508.00 instead of 508.50 an option ? That way we would have you and WE2XVY (on 507.985) in the same WSPR window ? 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T Quoting John Andrews : > I will run a WSPR beacon on 508.500 kHz tonight from 2330 to 0300 UTC. > That's a dial frequency of 507.000 kHz. Reports are welcome. > > John Andrews, WE2XGR/3 Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da07.mx.aol.com (rly-da07.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.81]) by air-da08.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA084-a8049cc20b2b0; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 20:41:37 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da07.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA078-a8049cc20b2b0; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 20:41:26 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ln07Q-00062T-Cv for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 00:40:20 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ln07P-00062K-5f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 00:40:19 +0000 Received: from smtp3.wanadoo.co.uk ([193.252.22.156] helo=smtp3.freeserve.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ln07M-00029I-2h for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 00:40:19 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3213.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id B75007000085 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 01:40:08 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.61.160]) by mwinf3213.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 0A6967000082 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 01:40:07 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20090327004008427.0A6967000082@mwinf3213.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: References: <5467B2F044F54A7980C65F62409256D3@AGB> In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 00:40:07 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8064.206 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8064.206 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Multi-function beacon > TX Prog < Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0158_01C9AE74.93B08BB0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0158_01C9AE74.93B08BB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Beacon TX software now also located in files section of uk500khz, click link= to view and download ....=20 http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/multi-function-beacon-by-andy-g4= jnt Green and Blue time slots may be accessed and viewed on line rolling dis= play of signal=20 http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html DK6NI is also monitoring the frequency=20 tnx- G .. From: Andy Talbot=20 Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 1:36 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: Multi-function beacon That listing was 5.29MHz to prove the S/W - it shows the power and tone freq= uencies of all three - RAL/WES/ORK on the TA path. Don't forget to offset the time :-) Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/3/14 Graham Dave, >>> Sample of 5290kc. over last night.<<< Is this from 5290 or 503.7 ....... ?? Graham ..=20 From: dave.riley3=20 Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 12:08 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Cc: 600MRG=20 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Multi-function beacon Andy, beacons, Looks like the beacon program is up and running correctly as 5 mhz shows r= elative sigs and frequency counts. Last night conditions here were very poor for T/A on 600m, even with this=20= broad high pressure area that helped keep the noise down. Even DI2AM was ver= y weak and SM6BHZ did not decode. So I will run it again on you tonight, but I did see remnanats of what loo= ks like a letter K during the beacon transmission times from you ( in ARGO Q= RSS3 )... Sample of 5290kc. over last night. 2009 03 14 03 00 47.51 39.97 36.06 23.91 0.00 1495.70 1494.14 0.00 2009 03 14 03 15 34.12 37.03 31.32 23.36 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 14 03 30 33.87 30.14 35.05 29.91 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 14 03 45 30.91 26.89 26.38 23.12 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 14 04 00 32.25 44.39 25.68 24.24 0.00 0.00 1494.14 0.00 2009 03 14 04 15 40.13 39.54 35.79 24.24 0.00 1495.51 1494.14 0.00 2009 03 14 04 30 44.71 42.47 29.35 30.72 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 14 04 45 33.16 37.11 35.32 23.03 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 14 05 00 48.07 46.44 34.46 25.30 0.00 1495.90 1494.14 0.00 2009 03 14 05 15 43.12 47.39 30.40 23.83 0.00 1495.70 1494.14 0.00 2009 03 14 05 30 48.13 31.83 37.48 26.50 0.00 1495.70 0.00 0.00 2009 03 14 05 45 47.11 42.90 37.04 22.88 0.00 1495.90 1494.34 0.00 2009 03 14 06 00 28.69 30.99 30.46 23.66 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 14 06 15 41.04 31.09 29.58 23.29 0.00 1495.90 0.00 0.00 The 'red' station usually seems the strongest on the graph... TNX Dave @ /17 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Andy Talbot=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org ; uk_beacons@yahoogroups.com=20 Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 5:57 AM Subject: LF: Re: Multi-function beacon Just a reminder to all - this beacon is still going, and will probably c= ontinue to do so until further notice. A few listeners have downloaded the= software, and thanks to all (you know who your are :-) for the plots / list= ings. I am not in a position to compile them, so don't expect revelations,= but Gerhard / DK6NI has been monitoring pretty well continuously, and has= plotted some deep fades / enhancements measured over hours with depths in t= he regions of 30dB. Are there any stations in the US in a position to monitor ? =20 Please note that if using the recommended 5meg beacon monitoring softwar= e you'll either have to set the delta time to -240 (or -180 or -120) seconds= or adjust the PC clock by two, three or four minutes to cope with the four=20= minute offset I'm running it on. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com =20 2009/3/6 Andy Talbot I've now started transmitting a timed beacon signal on 503.7kHz that=20= is identical in format to that of GB3SSS operated over the winter months of=20= the last two years from Poldhu on 1.9 and 3.5MHz, and has a similar signal= structure to the 5MHz beacons, GB3RAL, WES and ORK. These all have an init= ial CW ident and stepped power levels for aural reception, and a precisely d= efined period of full-power plain carrier for S/N measurements. =20 See http://www.rsgb-spectrumforum.org.uk/5mhz%20beacons.htm for the= complete 5MHz signal structure. For this MF transmission, as on GB3SSS, t= he pulsed sounder sequence of the 5MHz beacons is replaced with a PSK31 mess= age which lasts from 30s to approx 48 seconds after the start Auto Monitoring software writen by G3PLX is available for monitoring t= hese beacons, it measures signal to noise during the carrier period and save= s to file as well as plotting the last 40 hours worth of measurements. The software can be downloaded from http://www.rsgb.org/spectrumforum= /hf/beaconauto.php . PSK31 data can be copied with Digipan, Fldigi, PSK31S= BW or a host of other packages. TIMING=20 The 503.7kHz transmission takes place every 15 minutes at 4 minutes pa= st the quarter hour. =20 ie each transmission starts at xx:04, xx:19, xx:34 and xx:49 This t= ime slot has been selected so that the transmission do not interfere with my= continuous ongoing reception of the 5Mhz beacons - the active antenna used=20= for these is overloaded by the 500kHz signal and I have already lost data wh= en the WSPR beacon transmission coincided with one of the monitoring windows= . NOTE If using the G3PLX software, this only monitors for the three 5= MHz beacons at 00, 01 and 02 minutes. SO IT WILL BE NECESSARY TO FRIG THE SOFTWARE to monitor this transmis= sion at the 04 minute point. The necessary alteration can be done by first= ly setting your PC clock accurately to the correct time, then setting the Tr= ack Time box to -240 (minus 240 seconds). This will make the software look=20= for this transmission during the time window it thinks it would be receiving= GB3RAL, and log the MF transmission during the first minute, on the red tra= ce, as if it were GB3RAL=20 The beacon uses the identical hardware to the WSPR transmissions of th= e last few weeks, with the the only change being a reprogramming of the cont= roller PIC. In fact the very same hardware was previously loaned to the Po= ldhu club for their beacons, with the only difference being a change to the=20= final Low Pass filter on the output of the broadband PA. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.13/2001 - Release Date: 03/13/09= 05:59:00 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.13/2001 - Release Date: 03/14/09 0= 6:54:00 ------=_NextPart_000_0158_01C9AE74.93B08BB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Beacon TX software now also located in file= s=20 section of uk500khz, click link to
view and  download ....
 
 
Green and Blue time slots may be  acce= ssed and=20 viewed  on line  rolling  display of  signal
 
 
DK6NI is also monitoring the frequency=20
 
tnx- G ..

Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 1:36 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: Multi-function beacon

That listing was 5.29MHz to prove the S/W - it shows the power and tone= =20 frequencies of all three - RAL/WES/ORK on the TA path.
 
Don't forget to offset the time :-)

Andy  G4JNT
= www.g4jnt.com


2009/3/14 Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
Dave, >>> Sample of 5290kc. over last=20 night.<<<
 
Is this  from 5290  or  503.7 .= ......=20 ??
 
Graham ..
 
 

Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 12:08 PM
Cc: 600MRG
Subject: LF: Re: Re: Multi-function beacon

Andy, beacons,
 
Looks like the beacon program is up and runnin= g=20 correctly as 5 mhz shows relative sigs and frequency=20 counts.
 
Last night conditions here were very poor for=20= T/A on=20 600m, even with this broad high pressure area that helped keep the noise d= own.=20 Even DI2AM was very weak and SM6BHZ did not decode.
 
So I will run it again on you tonight, but I d= id see=20 remnanats of what looks like a letter K during the beacon transmission tim= es=20 from you ( in ARGO QRSS3 )...
 
 
Sample of 5290kc. over last=20 night.
 
2009 03 14 03 00 47.51 39.97 36.06 23.91 0.00=20 1495.70 1494.14 0.00
2009 03 14 03 15 34.12 37.03 31.32 23.36 0.00 0.00= =20 0.00 0.00
2009 03 14 03 30 33.87 30.14 35.05 29.91 0.00 0.00 0.00=20 0.00
2009 03 14 03 45 30.91 26.89 26.38 23.12 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
20= 09=20 03 14 04 00 32.25 44.39 25.68 24.24 0.00 0.00 1494.14 0.00
2009 03 14 0= 4 15=20 40.13 39.54 35.79 24.24 0.00 1495.51 1494.14 0.00
2009 03 14 04 30 44.7= 1=20 42.47 29.35 30.72 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
2009 03 14 04 45 33.16 37.11 35.3= 2=20 23.03 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
2009 03 14 05 00 48.07 46.44 34.46 25.30 0.00= =20 1495.90 1494.14 0.00
2009 03 14 05 15 43.12 47.39 30.40 23.83 0.00 1495= .70=20 1494.14 0.00
2009 03 14 05 30 48.13 31.83 37.48 26.50 0.00 1495.70 0.00= =20 0.00
2009 03 14 05 45 47.11 42.90 37.04 22.88 0.00 1495.90 1494.34=20 0.00
2009 03 14 06 00 28.69 30.99 30.46 23.66 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
20= 09=20 03 14 06 15 41.04 31.09 29.58 23.29 0.00 1495.90 0.00=20 0.00
 
The 'red' station usually seems the strongest=20= on the=20 graph...
 
TNX
 
Dave @ /17
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 5:57= =20 AM
Subject: LF: Re: Multi-function=20 beacon

Just a reminder to all - this beacon is still going, and will proba= bly=20 continue to do so until further notice.   A few listeners have= =20 downloaded the software, and thanks to all (you know who your are :-) fo= r=20 the plots / listings.   I am not in a position to compile them= , so=20 don't expect revelations, but Gerhard  /  DK6NI has been=20 monitoring pretty well continuously, and has plotted some deep= =20 fades / enhancements measured over hours with depths in the regions of=20 30dB.
 
Are there any stations in the US in a position to monitor=20 ?  
 
Please note that if using the recommended 5meg beacon monitoring=20 software you'll either have to set the delta time to -240 (or -180 or -1= 20)=20 seconds or adjust the PC clock by two, three or four minutes to cope wit= h=20 the four minute offset I'm running it on.
 
Andy  G4JNT

 
2009/3/6 Andy Talbot <andy.g4jn= t@googlemail.com>
I've now started transmitting a timed  beacon signal on= =20 503.7kHz that is identical in format to that of GB3SSS operated o= ver=20 the winter months of the last two years  from Poldhu on 1.9=20= and=20 3.5MHz,  and has a similar signal structure to the 5MHz beac= ons,=20 GB3RAL, WES and ORK.  These all have an initial CW ident=20 and stepped power levels for aural reception, and a precisel= y=20 defined period of full-power plain carrier for S/N=20 measurements.  
See   http://www.rsgb-spectrumf= orum.org.uk/5mhz%20beacons.htm =20 for the complete 5MHz  signal structure.  For this MF=20 transmission, as on GB3SSS, the pulsed sounder sequence of the 5MHz=20 beacons is replaced with a PSK31 message which lasts from 30s to=20 approx 48 seconds after the start
 
Auto Monitoring software writen by G3PLX is available for monitor= ing=20 these beacons, it measures signal to noise during the carrier period a= nd=20 saves to file as well as plotting the last 40 hours worth of=20 measurements.
The software can be downloaded from  htt= p://www.rsgb.org/spectrumforum/hf/beaconauto.php .  =20 PSK31 data can be copied with Digipan, Fldigi, PSK31SBW or a host of o= ther=20 packages.
 
TIMING
The 503.7kHz transmission takes place every 15 minutes at 4 minut= es=20 past the quarter hour. 
ie each transmission starts at xx:04, xx:19, xx:34 a= nd=20 xx:49    This time slot has been selected= so=20 that the transmission do not interfere with my continuous ongoing=20 reception of the 5Mhz beacons - the active antenna used for these is=20 overloaded by the 500kHz signal and I have already lost data when the=20= WSPR=20 beacon transmission coincided with one of the monitoring windows.
 
NOTE   If using the G3PLX software, this=20 only monitors for the three 5MHz beacons at  00, 01 and 02=20 minutes.
SO IT WILL BE NECESSARY TO FRIG THE SOFTWARE=20  to monitor this transmission at the 04 minute=20 point.   The necessary alteration can be done by firstl= y=20 setting your PC clock accurately to the correct time, then settin= g=20 the Track Time box to -240 (minus 240 seconds).  This will make t= he=20 software look for this transmission during the time window it thi= nks=20 it would be receiving GB3RAL, and log the MF transmission during=20= the=20 first minute, on the red trace, as if it were GB3RAL 
 
The beacon uses the identical hardware to the WSPR transmiss= ions=20 of the last few weeks, with the the only change being=20 a reprogramming of the controller PIC.   In fact the ve= ry=20 same hardware was previously loaned to the Poldhu club for their beaco= ns,=20 with the only difference being a change to the final Low Pass filter o= n=20 the output of the broadband PA.
 


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------=_NextPart_000_0158_01C9AE74.93B08BB0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de06.mx.aol.com (rly-de06.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.142]) by air-de02.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDE023-4de49ce05891d8; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 07:10:16 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de06.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE061-4de49ce05891d8; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 07:10:03 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LnWPd-0004p0-Qn for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 11:09:17 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LnWPd-0004or-EH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 11:09:17 +0000 Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com ([209.85.146.182]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LnWPb-0007lm-Fi for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 11:09:17 +0000 Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id l24so811377waf.4 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 04:08:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=8qQ78p5UQhgQRiKA++9S9dA91EqYQF8Y1tjEkyqumrM=; b=ip2ytIcptWemnP2LW0G7HWTPEa73ZjXvsk50r7Hrk77X3qGsLhI34+ox20uquYzMbS eSsyxw1TFwBbD39C9dRtvlWyJ0FyGyGraawPQTsMJMZE91p1shk93dYUxF56urg32WHb WuF69vVWdm+AKTdBjFeGtrjnVnnuXnSjyVFhA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=x3Cz6ZAPH3Bmwfj9U4PmJ+62C8maLFryY0yjYom96e/b+snXeVaQcJId9PlkwhX+M0 QmJXEmlUIoo1wyr169/BdXZ86086oC5JmrZXS6zvcsDg0xj9fqGLsoLBQq7D5goxf9ma USYJgLrmlCKcgvB+QYVdGmzvjagosUIjcXZeg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.114.75.1 with SMTP id x1mr2114975waa.107.1238238535108; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 04:08:55 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 11:08:55 +0000 Message-ID: <5931f8db0903280408t333fb809h479647c296cca296@mail.gmail.com> From: Harry Woodhouse To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_00_10=0.642,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: G3MFW 137 test Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636417ea50847c404662be06b X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m267.2 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : fail X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --001636417ea50847c404662be06b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Oh dear! What a terrible day! Gales here in Cornwall force 8 (85 Km/h). Impossible to get the mast up, so tied the ends of the ant. to some bushes. In addition awful QRM all over the band - sounded like huge electric motor locally. Terrible arcing from the ant in the rain & hail, even with reduced power to 440 watts DC input, 3 amps RF. Gave up at 10.30 GMT. Many thanks to F6BWO who was OO here between the QRM, and we had a QSO. Sorry DL2HRE, I did not read your E-mail till too late. My "proper" computer is in the office, not the shack. I'll tell the group when I am on again. regards, Harry G3MFW --001636417ea50847c404662be06b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Oh dear! What a terrible day! Gales here in Cornwall force 8 (85 Km/h). Impo= ssible to get the mast up, so tied the ends of the ant. to some bushes. In a= ddition awful QRM all over the band - sounded like huge electric motor local= ly. Terrible arcing from the ant in the rain & hail, even with reduced p= ower to 440 watts DC input, 3 amps RF. Gave up at 10.30 GMT. Many thanks to=20= F6BWO who was OO here between the QRM, and we had a QSO. Sorry DL2HRE, I did= not read your E-mail till too late. My "proper" computer is in th= e office, not the shack. I'll tell the group when I am on again. regards= , Harry G3MFW
--001636417ea50847c404662be06b-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh07.mx.aol.com (rly-mh07.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.143]) by air-mh03.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMH032-be849be9c3bf2; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 14:37:26 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh07.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH078-be849be9c3bf2; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 14:36:44 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LjHfZ-0005PQ-9c for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 18:36:13 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LjHfY-0005PH-6q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 18:36:12 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-1-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.52]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LjHfV-0004se-Hs for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 18:36:12 +0000 X-Trace: 168311188/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.59.96/None/g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.59.96 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Microsoft Office Outlook 11Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AosJAO84vklYajtg/2dsb2JhbACCJitTRIU5fYNbyBkHg3gG X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,374,1233532800"; d="gif'147?scan'147,208,217,147";a="168311188" Received: from 88-106-59-96.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.59.96]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 16 Mar 2009 18:35:03 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <009001c9a588$7eb02c60$6401a8c0@asus> <00e001c9a5a7$f07216a0$6401a8c0@asus> <826BA6086575402A8C87062492069F5A@AGB> <004501c9a623$a4bf81d0$6401a8c0@asus> <2ED02F4327204E3C903828F9E18AA72B@AGB> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 18:35:03 -0000 Message-ID: <001e01c9a665$ebeac870$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <2ED02F4327204E3C903828F9E18AA72B@AGB> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AcmmXHu9mo2JKxm1Qb6tlHCneKpE9QACGHgg X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001F_01C9A665.EBEAC870" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01C9A665.EBEAC870 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0020_01C9A665.EBED3970" ------=_NextPart_001_0020_01C9A665.EBED3970 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Graham, LF, The original HTML Code for the 2 minute refresh is still inserted into the page format, so upload is 30 minute intervals with Syncback & 2 minute refresh. I have left the refresh in case I revert back to the original grabber page. I will look at changing it if I continue to use the beacon chart upload. I would like to have feedback from the LF group regarding the page, if you check it out periodically, is it useful to you, what are you looking for. You can view the chart on my web site at :- http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html 73 Gary - G4WGT. _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham Sent: 16 March 2009 17:20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software Hi Gary, The page seemed to refresh quite often ... are there two settings ? G .. From: Gary - G4WGT Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:40 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software Hi Graham, LF, You wrote :- >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute intervals. <<< that could be backed off to 15 mins as the beacon only sends every 15 ?? I mentioned in my previous mail to ignore the text on the page as it was originally for grabber 1 for when I upgrade the web site (to a new design & better navigation etc), also mentioned is that upload is every 30 minutes. If the uploaded chart proves useful or interesting to operators & viewers then I will change the text & make it a permanent feature for the foreseeable future. BTW :- For those of you who are not familiar with the chart - The RED trace is Andy's (G4JNT) beacon signal & the BLACK trace is the noise level at my QTH. The Blue & GREEN are not in use & should be ignored on this chart as they are for the other beacons used when monitoring on the 5MHz allocation. Cheers, Gary - G4WGT _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham Sent: 15 March 2009 22:17 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software Gary.. That looks good ... 0500 looks best time for a qso .. see you then Smile emoticon >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute intervals. <<< that could be backed off to 15 mins as the beacon only sends every 15 ?? the 15 db over the noise in day time is the same at this qth .. looks like the big dips round 1900 where just when we where testing .. typical hihi tnx- G .. From: Gary - G4WGT Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 7:55 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: RE: Syncback software LF, I have now got the software, Syncback running correctly (I think). The purpose of this is to upload the chart from Andy's beacon as received here to my web site periodically, ie. every 30 minutes. I now have a receiver running 24/7 monitoring Andy,s beacon on 503.7KHz. You can view the chart on my web site at :- http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html For the moment ignore the text on the page as it is originally designed to use with the 500KHz grabber when I renew my web site design. If it is a useful upload I will make it a permanent feature but may have to extend the frequency coverage of grabber 1 so not to overload the PC with operations which will cause the PC to struggle. Let me have your comments please. 73 Gary - G4WGT. _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT Sent: 15 March 2009 16:10 To: LF -RSGB LF Group Subject: LF: Syncback software Hi LF, If anyone is using Syncback software & can help, please. I am tying to upload a file to my website who's filename does not change, only the file size changes. I tried to do it with Argo-upload but failed so I downloaded Syncback & still failing. Syncback gives me the following message :- ********************************** Can connect, but unable to change to destination directory: /chart01.bmp:not a directory ********************************** The Syncback help does not give me the answer. Any help will be appreciated Or Will Argo-Upload do it? Or Is there something else to do it? Thanks in anticipation, 73, Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. _____ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.13/2001 - Release Date: 03/14/09 06:54:00 _____ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.15/2003 - Release Date: 03/15/09 14:07:00 ------=_NextPart_001_0020_01C9A665.EBED3970 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Graham, LF,

&nb= sp;

The original HTML Code for the 2 minute refresh is still inserted into the page format, so upload is 30 minute intervals with Syncback & 2 minute refres= h. I have left the refresh in case I revert back to the original grabber page.=20= I will look at changing it if I continue to use the beacon chart upload.<= /o:p>

&nb= sp;

I would like to have feedback from the LF group regarding the page, if you check it=20= out periodically, is it useful to you, what are you looking for.

&nb= sp;

You can view the chart on my web site at :-

&nb= sp;

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/g= rabber3.html

&nb= sp;

73<= /o:p>

&nb= sp;

Gary = 211; G4WGT.

&nb= sp;

&nb= sp;

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham
Sent: 16 March 2009 17:20
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software

 

Hi Gary,

 

The page seemed to  refresh quite often ... ar= e there two settings ?

 

G ..

 

From: Gary - G4WGT

Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:40 AM

Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software

 

Hi Graham, LF,

&nb= sp;

You wrote :-

>>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute intervals. <<< that could be backed off to  15 mins as the beacon only&nb= sp; sends every 15 ??

&nb= sp;

I mentioned in my previous mail to ignore the text on the page as it was originally for grabber 1 for when I upgrade the web site (to a new design &a= mp; better navigation etc), also mentioned is that upload is every 30 minutes.

&nb= sp;

If the uploaded chart proves useful or interesting to operators & viewers then=20= I will change the text & make it a permanent feature for the foreseeable future.

&nb= sp;

BTW :-

&nb= sp;

For those of you  who are not familiar with the chart –

&nb= sp;

The RED trace is Andy’s (G4JNT) beacon signal & the BLACK trace is the noi= se level at my QTH.

&nb= sp;

The Blue & GREEN are not in use & should be ignored on this chart as they are for the other beacons used when monitoring on the 5MHz allocation.

&nb= sp;

Cheers,<= o:p>

&nb= sp;

Gary – G4WGT

&nb= sp;

&nb= sp;

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham
Sent: 15 March 2009 22:17
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software

 

Gary<= /span>..

 

That looks good  ... 0500 looks best time for=20= a qso .. see you then =3D"Smile 

 

>>>Uploa= d is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute intervals. <<< t= hat could be backed off to  15 mins as the beacon only  sends every 15= ??

 

the  15 db o= ver the noise in day time is the  same at this qth .. looks like the big dips round 1900  where just when we where testing ..  typical hihi

 

tnx- G .. =

 

Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 7:55 PM

Subject: LF: RE: Syncback software

 

LF,=

&nb= sp;

I have now got the software, Syncback running correctly (I think).

&nb= sp;

The purpose of this is to upload the chart from Andy’s beacon as received here to my web site periodically, ie. every 30 minutes.

&nb= sp;

I now have a receiver running 24/7 monitoring Andy,s beacon on 503.7KHz.

&nb= sp;

You can view the chart on my web site at :-

&nb= sp;

http://myweb.tiscali.= co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html

&nb= sp;

For the moment ignore the text on the page as it is originally designed to use with=20= the 500KHz grabber when I renew my web site design. If it is a useful upload I w= ill make it a permanent feature but may have to extend the frequency coverage of grabber 1 so not to overload the PC with operations which will cause the PC=20= to struggle.

&nb= sp;

Let me have your comments please.

&nb= sp;

73<= /o:p>

&nb= sp;

Gary – G4WGT.

&nb= sp;

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT
Sent: 15 March 2009 16:10
To: LF -RSGB LF Group
Subject: LF: Syncback softwar= e

 

Hi LF,=

 =

If anyone is using Syncback sof= tware & can help, please.

 =

I am tying to upload a file to=20= my website who’s filename does not change, only the file size changes. I tried to= do it with Argo-upload but failed so I downloaded Syncback & still failing.=

 =

Syncback gives me the following= message :-

 =

*******************************= ***

Can connect, but unable to chan= ge to destination directory:

/chart01.bmp:not a directory

*******************************= ***

The Syncback help does not give= me the answer.

 =

Any help will be appreciated

 =

Or=

 =

Will Argo-Upload do it?

 =

Or=

 =

Is there something else to do i= t?

 =

Thanks in anticipation,

 =

73,

 

Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.=

 


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------=_NextPart_001_0020_01C9A665.EBED3970-- ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01C9A665.EBEAC870 Content-Type: image/gif; name="image001.gif" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-ID: R0lGODlhEwATALMPAPXv3v3pTvDHOei2K9u4a9qoLunPkLGLMdOZKfvbQMeyl5p4J+7Jbreb XoAyGAAAACH5BAEAAA8ALAAAAAATABMAAASu8EkJDBNjMAOmf5UgJEGQJBj3AVfpuslAdBRD vu8p04YQCIuFrzQIDgQFA2i4AAAWruYTgwiVFopnNCsUICy3hUMBvY67hcYwIHaU2Q43ZnAY uIDCUixYmC8GNzgmJyIZBQcXgYMnKIUDCA09jA4FgCcFCA4ZdFlHl5SbmQiGBx0GR0iZcXEI o5wUBH1ImK2tGQcNNCCxm70Dh7krBq2VvwgHB1kfExUNBwu4yh4RADs= ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01C9A665.EBEAC870-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db09.mx.aol.com (rly-db09.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.84]) by air-db01.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDB014-ae549b03999284; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 15:44:36 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db09.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB093-ae549b03999284; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 15:44:11 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LfKPp-0001B8-Jv for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 20:43:37 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LfKPp-0001Az-2k for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 20:43:37 +0000 Received: from vms173017pub.verizon.net ([206.46.173.17]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LfKPn-00029q-Qy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 20:43:37 +0000 Received: from DR2 ([71.184.212.10]) by vms173017.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KG100DQMW87BRO9@vms173017.mailsrvcs.net> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 14:43:21 -0600 (CST) Message-id: From: "dave.riley3" To: Cc: "600MRG" References: <000a01c99a91$a54a1180$1402a8c0@e7010> <7.0.1.0.1.20090305091934.0181aca8@magma.ca> Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 15:43:19 -0500 MIME-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36 Subject: Re: LF: Deep copy... Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 >What is the expected ambient noise say > @ 600M one should expect?? > I then connected to the outside antenna with no external pre-amp or any > non > linear device and saw -117 dbm of noise across 10 khz. with a few weak and > floating predictable BB noises.. Like I say, just a look @ the neighboorhood in which we are engaged as stated above, there to see the DIFFERENCE between it and the outside noise... In today's case was -17 dbm delta... Tonight it may be -27 dbm or so... Lotsa places for weak signals to hide, even without Turin's theorem... It's not like I have to tweak the front end by aiming this loop at the sun, thence to a quiet place in the blue sky, and then @ the ground cuz I won't see 3 different relative noise levels like with the 2' dish @ 10ghz... Am only interested in knowing the difference between the receiver and the outside noise, pick your own parameters, say at the bandwidth that you like as zero degree K won't matter... Right now I can get away with a Darlington pair of point contact transistors biased high into class A and still have headroom to spare, as far as front end noise figure is concerned... The P-P Western Eklectic 417As are wasted here... But since the outside world is so appreciably more noisey then there must be a better treatment of the antenna farm short of a full blown Wullenwebber in order to ditch the noise... Why should a guy have to run 100 milliwatts when 10 will do?? We don't have an endless supply of carbon credits here in the colonies you know... For now the double balanced, biased 1N34s are fine... Tried 1N23As, no big deal... Like giving strawberrys to a donkey on 600M... TNX until the sound of Dave @ /17 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Talbot" To: Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 2:31 PM Subject: Re: LF: Deep copy... It all depends on your resolution bandwith which you don't specify. Pnoise = kTB With my SDR-IQ set to 190kHz span and 131072 point FFT, resolution bandwidth = 1.5Hz and Rx set to +10dB gain to get the best noise figure: -145dBm with a 50R load. With the Antenna connected this rises to -115dBm (measured at 1920 UTC) with no obvious lines or peaks contributing. If you normalise to the standard 2.5kHz noise measurement bandwidth, that equates to -112 (50R) and -82dBm.(antenna) respectively Thermal noise at reference temperature of 290K is -174dBm/Hz, so for 2.5kHz that gives -140dBm suggesting the noise figure of the SDR-IQ could be 140 - 112 = 28dB. It probably isn't this low as we're in the quantisation noise with no input signal, but a NF of 15 - 20dB would probably be a rough guesstimate. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/3/5 dave.riley3 : > Thanks to ALL who responded with quick and cogent findings... > > It has seemed for a time that with the receiver AGC and NBs OFF that I > generally can see a deeper signal, depending on conditions... > > The final audio filter assures that the program does not have to deal with > noise outside of the passband of interest... > > TNX > > > Here is today's gnawing question... What is the expected ambient noise say > @ 600M one should expect?? > Rural, City, Country, remote battery operated, etc. combinations... > Especially well away from AC neutral wires... > > Today I ran the input to the SDR-IQ into a 50 ohm load and set a long > integrate ( 64+ ) and saw approx -134 dbm of baseband noise with NO > signals... > > I then connected to the outside antenna with no external pre-amp or any > non > linear device and saw -117 dbm of noise across 10 khz. with a few weak and > floating predictable BB noises.. > > At night it is sure to be up to near -100 dbm depending on conditions and > noises present... > > What do YOU get for a noise difference between a terminated antenna input > and your regular receive antenna?? > > I'm about to place several e-probes about this place in order to mix and > match phase and amplitudes in order to see what net gain can be made to > the > SNR with the hope that the most offending noises will not be in the path > of > a desired signal... > > TNX and ain't this fun??? > > Dave @ WD2XSH/17 > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bill de Carle > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 9:58 AM > Subject: Re: LF: Deep copy... > At 09:25 PM 3/4/2009, you wrote: > > I seem to get best results while trying to pull signals out of the noise > when the AGC of the receiver is OFF as well as the Noise Blanker and Noise > reduction features being OFF... > > Do you concur?? > > Also setting a good audio filter to the passband of interest seems to > bypass > some heavy static hits as well... > > I've noticed that when doing HF frequency measurement tests (working to > the > nearest milliHertz) - turning off the AGC under high static conditions > seems > to improve the accuracy of the measurement, at least with the software I > use. One plausible explanation is that AGC action necessarily introduces > amplitude modulation (on all signals in the passband). When I process the > AGC'd signal with what amounts to a very narrow DSP filter the added > amplitude modulation shows up as apparent sidebands close-in on the signal > I'm trying to measure. If the power in those sidebands is comparable to > that of the signal whose frequency I'm looking for, the FFT algorithm > (which > assumes the real signal has the largest amplitude) gets confused and comes > up with an estimated frequency somewhere between the correct value and > that > of a nearby sideband. The effect is small however because the AGC pumping > action doesn't occur very fast so the added sidebands are seen to be only > some milliHertz away from the signal. The sidebands occur on both sides of > the "real" signal, so one might expect them to cancel out but in practice > they don't because the amount of error depends on where the "real" signal > falls with respect to the fixed frequency bins of the FFT. It should be > possible to model the AGC action of a particular receiver and compensate > for > it in the software. No doubt the phenomenon becomes less significant with > smaller FFT's or shorter integration times. Changing the AGC setting > between SLOW-FAST-OFF might help under some conditions. With QRSS-60 > signaling rates it can take a long time to find out which setting is > optimum, especially when band conditions are changing or the QSB period is > close to a bit time, hi! > > VE2IQ > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg11.mx.aol.com (rly-dg11.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.95]) by air-dg06.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDG064-60549b1a5ff2e6; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 17:39:02 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg11.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG116-60549b1a5ff2e6; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 17:38:57 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lfigf-0002rJ-1V for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 22:38:37 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lfigd-0002rA-Qa for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 22:38:35 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.151] helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lfigc-0006KT-Ko for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 22:38:35 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3526.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 3AFB01C00083 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 23:38:29 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.23.203]) by mwinf3526.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 83BC91C00082 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 23:38:28 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20090306223828539.83BC91C00082@mwinf3526.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <830D60A934B1493EA43771AE81385B76@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <0566EF6DE20B4249A3E74859BF9BA2C6@AGB> <9C03FBF153AB478A9B0DBC5580CF20D2@AGB> <28FA0F184B25444F8BA2F1EC5FC42C04@AGB> In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 22:38:27 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8064.206 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8064.206 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Multi-function beacon Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0154_01C99EAC.44776A50" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0154_01C99EAC.44776A50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Andy, =20 Thanks for the information, I can see the advantage of the phase reversal si= milar to the navy's chirp radar , pulse-width reduction. =20 The situation is a little convoluted, I was contacted by Robert Hemesley, w= ho has produced a software package that will display by scatter gram the re= turns from the 5 meg pulse system, prior to this Robert had been contacted=20= by Gerhard / DK6NI, with the view to propagation observations on 500 using= the system.=20 =20 I had a quick look at the system with the view to 'creating' a suitable be= acon tx to enable an investigation to take place, however, the pulse para= meter's where not clearly defined, my approach was to use the ma1723 and=20= linear amplifier to produce a beacon transmission from a simple wave file= .. not too high tech but would provide the simple time windows and changes= in carrier levels as defined. But now looks the pulse ranging aspect of the= system is beyond my existing station equipment. =20 The modification of the system looks to quite a task and I assume requires D= DS generation. I had the impression that the rx software measured the time= interval of the pulses and not the absolute time, allowing a normal 'rx sys= tem' to be used for the observation ? =20 Tnx - G ..=20 =20 =20 Nb =20 I have posted details of your beacon in various news groups etc and establis= hed a page on the uk500khz group, using your original post and added a req= uest, 'not to' send log files to the 5 meg group via email ....=20 From: Andy Talbot=20 Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 9:08 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: Multi-function beacon Graham -=20 I'm not sure I know what you are hoping to do with the sounder pulse. It=20= was incorporated into the 5MHz system to allow propagation investigations in= to multiple skywave hops and multipath, Its parameters were therefore set=20= at values that were a compromise between expected HF multipath parameters, a= nd what could reasonably be allowed for in terms of "necessary bandwidth". =20= While G3PLX did generate some data using the sounder, the idea was never wid= ely popular. In fact there has been recent mention of removing the sounder=20= sequence from at least one of the beacons. A short pulse is not really a g= ood choice, but with only a narrow bandwidth to play width, its the best tha= t could be done. A chirp or PN sequence would be a better solution. Are you hoping to be able to set up some sort of sounding system at MF? If= so, I suspect you're going to want to measure a different range of values a= nd a different waveform would fit the bill better. I know very little abou= t MF/HF propagation beyond what the amateur textbooks give, but suggest you=20= talk to G3PLX, G0MJW and others who do understand the subject very well. Whatever, I suspect you may be interested in accurately measuring the time d= elay changes over long paths, and for this, short pulses are not the answer.= Instead, coherent systems making use of phase information should do the j= ob. These days, its trivial to get sub-microsecond timing accuracy with an= y GPS receiver and I firmly believe this is the way to go.=20 It hasn't been widely made-use-of, but the RAL VHF beacons on 40/50/60/70MHz= , and GB3VHF on 144MHz all have a GPS timed sequence of once per second phas= e reversals as part of their transmission (JT65B, CW, carrier, reversals). =20= These reversals occur at a precise point referred to UTC, and anyone else c= an measure them, and relate to a local GPS reference. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/3/6 Graham OK Andy,=20 I was thinking more in terms of generating the pulse using 'audio' and no= t by hard keying .. but the 'area under the curve' looks a little 'thin' .= .pity .. the rest of the system could be 'constructed' using a audio edito= r .and sent via a ssb tx with alc 'off' .. how accurate is the start time r= equirements ?=20 tnx- G ..=20 From: Andy Talbot=20 Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 8:13 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: Multi-function beacon Not strictly -=20 Look at it in th efreqeuncy domain. A 500us pulse has its first zero at 2= 000/pi =3D 637Hz, so most of the energy is within 1300Hz bandwidth, and a su= bstantial part will pass though the Rx filter. It will be extended in time=20= and flattenned, but the detection algorithm finds the peak, in effect applyi= ng an inverse transform of the SSB filter. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com Nb the pulse width , 500uS .. that's a bit sharp for a ssb filter ,=20= only 1.5 cycles at 3 Khz ... ? ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.8/1987 - Release Date: 03/06/09=20= 07:20:00 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.8/1987 - Release Date: 03/06/09 07= :20:00 ------=_NextPart_000_0154_01C99EAC.44776A50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Andy,<= /SPAN>

 

Thanks= for the=20 information, I can see the advantage of the phase reversal similar to the na= vy=92s=20 chirp radar , pulse-width reduction.

 

The si= tuation is=20 a little convoluted, I was contacted by =  Robert Hemesley, who has produced a=20 software package that will display by scatter gram the  returns from the 5 meg pulse system,=20 prior to this Robert had been  contacted by  Gerhard / D= K6NI, with the  view to prop= agation observations on 500=20 using the system.

 

I had=20= a quick=20 look at the  system with the  view to =91creating=92 a sui= table beacon tx=20 to  enable an investigation to=   take place, however, the  pulse parameter=92s where no= t clearly=20 defined, my approach  was to  use the  ma1723 and&= nbsp; linear amplifier to  <= /SPAN>produce a beacon  tran= smission from a simple wave file ..=20 not too high tech but would provide the&nb= sp;=20 simple time windows and changes in carrier levels as defined. But now= =20 looks the pulse ranging aspect of the = ;=20 system is beyond my existing station equipment.

 

The mo= dification=20 of the system looks to quite a task and I assume requires DDS generation. I=20= had=20 the  impression that the rx software measured the  time interval o= f=20 the pulses and not the absolute time, allowing a normal 'rx system' to be us= ed=20 for the observation ?

 

Tnx=20= =96 G ..=20

 

 

Nb

 

I have= posted=20 details of your beacon in various news groups etc and established a page on=20 the  uk500khz group, using you= r  original post and added a= request, =91not=20 to=92 send log files to the 5 meg group via email ...


Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 9:08 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Multi-function beacon

Graham -
 
I'm not sure I know what you are hoping to do with the sounder=20 pulse.    It was incorporated into the 5MHz system to allow=20 propagation investigations into multiple skywave hops and multipath, &n= bsp;=20 Its parameters were therefore set at values that were a compromise between=20 expected HF multipath parameters, and what could reasonably be allowed for i= n=20 terms of "necessary bandwidth".  While G3PLX did generate som= e=20 data using the sounder, the idea was never widely popular.  In fac= t=20 there has been recent mention of removing the sounder sequence from at least= one=20 of the beacons.   A short pulse is not really a good choice, but w= ith=20 only a narrow bandwidth to play width, its the best that could be=20 done.   A chirp or PN sequence  would be a better solution.
 
Are you hoping to be able to set up some sort of sounding system at=20 MF?   If so, I suspect you're going to want to measure a different= =20 range of values and a different waveform would fit the bill better. &nb= sp;=20 I know very little about MF/HF propagation beyond what the amateur textbooks= =20 give, but suggest you talk to G3PLX, G0MJW and others who do understand the=20 subject very well.
 
Whatever, I suspect you may be interested in accurately measuring=20= the=20 time delay changes over long paths, and for this, short pulses are not = the=20 answer.   Instead, coherent systems making use of phase informatio= n=20 should do the job.   These days, its trivial to get=20 sub-microsecond timing accuracy with any GPS receiver and I firmly beli= eve=20 this is the way to go. 
 
It hasn't been widely made-use-of, but the RAL VHF beacons on=20 40/50/60/70MHz, and GB3VHF on 144MHz all have a GPS timed sequence of o= nce=20 per second phase reversals as part of their transmission (JT65B, CW, carrier= ,=20 reversals).   These reversals occur at a precise point referred to= =20 UTC, and anyone else can measure them, and relate to a local GPS=20 reference.

Andy  G4JNT
= www.g4jnt.com


2009/3/6 Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
OK  Andy,
 
I was thinking more in terms of generatin= g=20 the  pulse using 'audio' and not by hard keying .. but the 'area unde= r=20 the  curve' looks a little 'thin'  ..pity .. the  rest of=20 the  system could be 'constructed' using a audio editor .and sent via= a=20 ssb tx with alc 'off' .. how accurate is the  start time requirements= ?=20
 
tnx- G ..
 
 

Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 8:13 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Multi-function beacon

Not strictly -
Look at it in th efreqeuncy domain.  A 500us pulse has its first= =20 zero at 2000/pi =3D 637Hz, so most of the energy is within 1300Hz bandwidt= h,=20 and a substantial part will pass though the Rx filter.  It will=20= be=20 extended in time and flattenned, but the detection algorithm finds the pea= k,=20 in effect applying an inverse transform of the SSB filter.

Andy  G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com

 
 
Nb   the  pulse width , 500uS= ..=20 that's a bit  sharp for a ssb filter , only  1.5 cycles at 3 K= hz=20 ... ?
 
 
 
 


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------=_NextPart_000_0154_01C99EAC.44776A50-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh11.mx.aol.com (rly-mh11.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.147]) by air-mh06.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMH062-61749bec6653aa; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 17:36:55 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh11.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH114-61749bec6653aa; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 17:36:39 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LjKU0-0006gc-B6 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 21:36:28 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LjKTz-0006gR-49 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 21:36:27 +0000 Received: from mail-bw0-f164.google.com ([209.85.218.164]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LjKTw-0005ve-He for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 21:36:27 +0000 Received: by bwz8 with SMTP id 8so4102672bwz.4 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 14:36:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=cOlT4NXKAK8lczvwh1EnES4Uq1TVDOsr3s5YynxUlMs=; b=qQpjhH2AouD2V2ysVPZzao7PhD/0FoO/coEIo6SQ9ETB6bXkY7ujRjSSBczC56i7nh XQkK3r7Zp8robg7EQyuaEKdGBeUvmOG90a8GJ5dzLdvs68A6T++I5AnfNkuSi44UAx2N sPIXMaFiNk06rAS0UutFyqm32ebtfnszXtLJw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=aqPc2+qPcrnajQYiy/ctzITUFuxnAeByYdqXcgcHjYzAro+qD8AG5A4EyM78P8BBsc LoISXAXHRRFv/mVF9NAX9/EqWEn68CgCswN8o1Z9WQCTomZnTQVzMXdfZUfaRhAaubPG CgrVg6CX6687IdhbuxyxdMinmfLKODd74oKoo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.62.82 with SMTP id w18mr1770632bkh.129.1237239377786; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 14:36:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <005101c9a679$df148f50$6401a8c0@asus> References: <009001c9a588$7eb02c60$6401a8c0@asus> <00e001c9a5a7$f07216a0$6401a8c0@asus> <826BA6086575402A8C87062492069F5A@AGB> <004501c9a623$a4bf81d0$6401a8c0@asus> <2ED02F4327204E3C903828F9E18AA72B@AGB> <001e01c9a665$ebeac870$6401a8c0@asus> <00be01c9a66e$c8bfdbc0$0900a8c0@AM> <004a01c9a677$2a8b48a0$6401a8c0@asus> <005101c9a679$df148f50$6401a8c0@asus> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 21:36:17 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5b13a9d78a20465433d31 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNSAFE,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m262.2 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --001636c5b13a9d78a20465433d31 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable See you just have - got quite a shock until I realised the noise had plummeted as well. Any takers for the 5 and 6 minute slots? Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/3/16 Gary - G4WGT > *Andy,* > > * * > > *OK, I will insert an attenuator at the antenna socket (that=92s an easy > move) & watch how it performs. It is switched at 10dB steps so I will star= t > at 10db of course.* > > * * > > *Cheers,* > > * * > > *Gary.* > > * * > ------------------------------ > > *From:* owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto: > owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] *On Behalf Of *Andy Talbot > *Sent:* 16 March 2009 20:45 > > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > *Subject:* Re: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > Doesn't matter which - just total system gain. That S/W works best if the > noise threshold rides at about 10dB above the baseline, then it allows fo= r > up to 70 - 80dB of signal peaks. > > > Andy G4JNT > www.g4jnt.com > > 2009/3/16 Gary - G4WGT > > Alan, > > When you wrote :- > > my only comment is that you may have too much gain in the system. > > Are you meaning sound card or receiver gain? > > Gary. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Alan Melia > Sent: 16 March 2009 19:38 > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software > > Hi Gary my only comment is that you may have too much gain in the system. > It > is sometimes better to have the noise further down nearer the axis. > > I am afraid there is a major problem with this kind of beacon, when the > fading period is shorter than the sampling interval, so you dont really > know > what the path is doing. The only reliable points are the peaks, the trough= s > dont really mean anything without some very sophisticated analysis and > probably two spaced receivers. However it does give a snapshot of the band > without taking up too much bandwidth (this was what was required for 5MHz > too). Despite all the data collected very little analysis has actually be > done on the 5MHz data collected by this program. The one succesfull bit of > work was that published in Radcom by Marcis Walden G0IJZ. I used it for > some > time whilst Andy was testing the Poldhu beacon on 160m and also during the > 1st two months that ran. I was certainly surprised by the daytime path on > 160m from here. I have seen the data collected in Canada via Joe Craig > VO1NA > and it is difficult to see how to use it. > > Still if you dont collect the data you will never know!! > > Alan G3NYK > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gary - G4WGT" > To: > Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 6:35 PM > Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > Hi Graham, LF, > > > > > > > > The original HTML Code for the 2 minute refresh is still inserted into > the > > page format, so upload is 30 minute intervals with Syncback & 2 minute > > refresh. I have left the refresh in case I revert back to the original > > grabber page. I will look at changing it if I continue to use the beacon > > chart upload. > > > > > > > > I would like to have feedback from the LF group regarding the page, if > you > > check it out periodically, is it useful to you, what are you looking for= . > > > > > > > > You can view the chart on my web site at :- > > > > > > > > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html > > > > > > > > 73 > > > > > > > > Gary - G4WGT. > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham > > Sent: 16 March 2009 17:20 > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > > > > > Hi Gary, > > > > > > > > The page seemed to refresh quite often ... are there two settings ? > > > > > > > > G .. > > > > > > > > From: Gary - G4WGT > > > > Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:40 AM > > > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > > > Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > > > > > Hi Graham, LF, > > > > > > > > You wrote :- > > > > >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute > > intervals. <<< that could be backed off to 15 mins as the beacon only > > sends every 15 ?? > > > > > > > > I mentioned in my previous mail to ignore the text on the page as it was > > originally for grabber 1 for when I upgrade the web site (to a new desig= n > & > > better navigation etc), also mentioned is that upload is every 30 > minutes. > > > > > > > > If the uploaded chart proves useful or interesting to operators & viewer= s > > then I will change the text & make it a permanent feature for the > > foreseeable future. > > > > > > > > BTW :- > > > > > > > > For those of you who are not familiar with the chart - > > > > > > > > The RED trace is Andy's (G4JNT) beacon signal & the BLACK trace is the > noise > > level at my QTH. > > > > > > > > The Blue & GREEN are not in use & should be ignored on this chart as the= y > > are for the other beacons used when monitoring on the 5MHz allocation. > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > Gary - G4WGT > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham > > Sent: 15 March 2009 22:17 > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > > > > > Gary.. > > > > > > > > That looks good ... 0500 looks best time for a qso .. see you then Smil= e > > emoticon > > > > > > > > >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute > > intervals. <<< that could be backed off to 15 mins as the beacon only > > sends every 15 ?? > > > > > > > > the 15 db over the noise in day time is the same at this qth .. looks > like > > the big dips round 1900 where just when we where testing .. typical > hihi > > > > > > > > tnx- G .. > > > > > > > > From: Gary - G4WGT > > > > Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 7:55 PM > > > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > > > Subject: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > > > > > LF, > > > > > > > > I have now got the software, Syncback running correctly (I think). > > > > > > > > The purpose of this is to upload the chart from Andy's beacon as receive= d > > here to my web site periodically, ie. every 30 minutes. > > > > > > > > I now have a receiver running 24/7 monitoring Andy,s beacon on 503.7KHz.= . > > > > > > > > You can view the chart on my web site at :- > > > > > > > > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html > > > > > > > > For the moment ignore the text on the page as it is originally designed > to > > use with the 500KHz grabber when I renew my web site design. If it is a > > useful upload I will make it a permanent feature but may have to extend > the > > frequency coverage of grabber 1 so not to overload the PC with operation= s > > which will cause the PC to struggle. > > > > > > > > Let me have your comments please. > > > > > > > > 73 > > > > > > > > Gary - G4WGT. > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT > > Sent: 15 March 2009 16:10 > > To: LF -RSGB LF Group > > Subject: LF: Syncback software > > > > > > > > Hi LF, > > > > > > > > If anyone is using Syncback software & can help, please. > > > > > > > > I am tying to upload a file to my website who's filename does not change= , > > only the file size changes. I tried to do it with Argo-upload but failed > so > > I downloaded Syncback & still failing. > > > > > > > > Syncback gives me the following message :- > > > > > > > > ********************************** > > > > Can connect, but unable to change to destination directory: > > > > /chart01.bmp:not a directory > > > > ********************************** > > > > The Syncback help does not give me the answer. > > > > > > > > Any help will be appreciated > > > > > > > > Or > > > > > > > > Will Argo-Upload do it? > > > > > > > > Or > > > > > > > > Is there something else to do it? > > > > > > > > Thanks in anticipation, > > > > > > > > 73, > > > > > > > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.13/2001 - Release Date: > 03/14/09 > > 06:54:00 > > > > _____ > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.15/2003 - Release Date: > 03/15/09 > > 14:07:00 > > > > > > > > --001636c5b13a9d78a20465433d31 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
See you just have - got quite a shock until I realised the noise had pl= ummeted as well.
Any takers for the 5 and 6 minute slots?

Andy =A0G4JNT
www= .g4jnt.com


2009/3/16 Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>

Andy,

=A0

OK, I will inse= rt an attenuator at the antenna socket (that=92s an easy move) & watch h= ow it performs. It is switched at 10dB steps so I will start at 10db of cour= se.

=A0

Cheers,<= /font>

=A0

Gary.

=A0

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_= lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf=20= Of Andy Talbot
Sent: 16 March 2009 20:45=20


To: rsgb_lf_grou= p@blacksheep.org
Subject:= Re: LF: RE: Syncback software

=A0

Doesn't matter which - just total system gain.=A0 That S/W works best i= f the noise threshold rides at about 10dB above the baseline,=A0 then it all= ows for up to 70 - 80dB of signal peaks.

<= span style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">
Andy =A0G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com

2009/3/16 Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>

Alan,

When you wrote :-

<= span style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">my only comment is that you may have too much= gain in the system.

Are you meaning sound card or receiver gain?

Gary.



-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<= /a>

[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Alan Melia
Sent= : 16 March 2009 19:38

<= span style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF= : RE: Syncback software

Hi Gary my only comment is that you may have too much gain in the system= . It
is sometimes better to have the noise further down nearer the axis..=

I am afraid there is a major problem with this kind of beacon, when=20= the
fading period is shorter than the sampling interval, so you dont really know=
what the path is doing. The only reliable points are the peaks, the trou= ghs
dont really mean anything without some very sophisticated analysis an= d
probably two spaced receivers. However it does give a snapshot of the bandwithout taking up too much bandwidth (this was what was required for 5MHz<= br>too). Despite all the data collected very little analysis has actually be=
done on the 5MHz data collected by this program. The one succesfull bit ofwork was that published in Radcom by Marcis Walden G0IJZ. I used it for so= me
time whilst Andy was testing the Poldhu beacon on 160m and also during= the
1st two months that ran. I was certainly surprised by the daytime path on160m from here. I have seen the data collected in Canada via Joe Craig VO1N= A
and it is difficult to see how to use it.

Still if you dont coll= ect the data you will never know!!

Alan G3NYK




----- Original Message -----
From: &quo= t;Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 6:35 PM
Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback softwa= re


> Hi Graham, LF,
>
>
>
> The origin= al HTML Code for the 2 minute refresh is still inserted into the
> pag= e format, so upload is 30 minute intervals with Syncback & 2 minute
> refresh. I have left the refresh in case I revert back to the original<= br>> grabber page. I will look at changing it if I continue to use the be= acon
> chart upload.
>
>
>
> I would like to h= ave feedback from the LF group regarding the page, if you
> check it out periodically, is it useful to you, what are you looking fo= r.
>
>
>
> You can view the chart on my web site at=20= :-
>
>
>
> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/g= rabber3.html
>
>
>
> 73
>
>
>
> Gary - G4WGT= .
>
>
>
>
>
> =A0 _____
>
>=20= From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham
&= gt; Sent: 16 March 2009 17:20
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software
>
>
>
>=20= Hi Gary,
>
>
>
> The page seemed to =A0refresh quite= often ... are there two settings ?
>
>
>
> G ..
>
>
>
> From: Gary - G4WGT <mailto:g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
><= br>> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:40 AM
>
> To: rsgb_lf_group@bla= cksheep.org
>
> Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software
>
>
><= br>> Hi Graham, LF,
>
>
>
> You wrote :-
><= br>> >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at=20= 2 minute
> intervals. <<< that could be backed off to =A015 mins as the b= eacon only
> sends every 15 ??
>
>
>
> I menti= oned in my previous mail to ignore the text on the page as it was
> or= iginally for grabber 1 for when I upgrade the web site (to a new design
&
> better navigation etc), also mentioned is that upload is every= 30 minutes.
>
>
>
> If the uploaded chart proves us= eful or interesting to operators & viewers
> then I will change th= e text & make it a permanent feature for the
> foreseeable future.
>
>
>
> BTW :-
>
&= gt;
>
> For those of you =A0who are not familiar with the chart=20= -
>
>
>
> The RED trace is Andy's (G4JNT) beacon= signal & the BLACK trace is the
noise
> level at my QTH.
>
>
>
> The Blue &= ; GREEN are not in use & should be ignored on this chart as they
>= are for the other beacons used when monitoring on the 5MHz allocation.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> Gary -=20= G4WGT
>
>
>
>
>
> =A0 _____
>
&= gt; From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham
&= gt; Sent: 15 March 2009 22:17
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software
>
>
>
>=20= Gary..
>
>
>
> That looks good =A0... 0500 looks bes= t time for a qso .. see you then Smile
> emoticon
>
>
>
> >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refres= h at 2 minute
> intervals. <<< that could be backed off to=20= =A015 mins as the beacon only
> sends every 15 ??
>
>
>
> the =A015 db over the noise in day time is the =A0same at this=20= qth .. looks
like
> the big dips round 1900 =A0where just when we w= here testing .. =A0typical hihi
>
>
>
> tnx- G .. >
>
>
> From: Gary - G4WGT <mailto:g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
><= br>> Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 7:55 PM
>
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksh= eep.org
>
> Subject: LF: RE: Syncback software
>
>
>
&= gt; LF,
>
>
>
> I have now got the software, Syncbac= k running correctly (I think).
>
>
>
> The purpose o= f this is to upload the chart from Andy's beacon as received
> here to my web site periodically, ie. every 30 minutes.
>
>=
>
> I now have a receiver running 24/7 monitoring Andy,s beacon= on 503.7KHz.
>
>
>
> You can view the chart on my w= eb site at :-
>
>
>
> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber= 3.html
>
>
>
> For the moment ignore the text on= the page as it is originally designed to
> use with the 500KHz grabber when I renew my web site design. If it is a=
> useful upload I will make it a permanent feature but may have to ex= tend
the
> frequency coverage of grabber 1 so not to overload the P= C with operations
> which will cause the PC to struggle.
>
>
>
> Le= t me have your comments please.
>
>
>
> 73
>>
>
> Gary - G4WGT.
>
>
>
> =A0 ___= __
>
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb= _lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT
> Sent: 15 March 2009 16:10
> To: LF -RSGB LF Group
> Subject= : LF: Syncback software
>
>
>
> Hi LF,
>
&g= t;
>
> If anyone is using Syncback software & can help, plea= se.
>
>
>
> I am tying to upload a file to my website who&#= 39;s filename does not change,
> only the file size changes. I tried t= o do it with Argo-upload but failed
so
> I downloaded Syncback &= ; still failing.
>
>
>
> Syncback gives me the following message :-
&= gt;
>
>
> **********************************
>
&g= t; Can connect, but unable to change to destination directory:
>
> /chart01.bmp:not a directory
>
> **************************= ********
>
> The Syncback help does not give me the answer.
&= gt;
>
>
> Any help will be appreciated
>
>
>
> Or
>
>
>
> Will Argo-Upload do it?
&= gt;
>
>
> Or
>
>
>
> Is there some= thing else to do it?
>
>
>
> Thanks in anticipation,=
>
>
>
> 73,
>
>
>
> Gary - G4WG= T - IO83QP.
>
>
>
> =A0 _____
>
>
>= ; No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.13/2001 - Release Date: 03/14= /09
> 06:54:00
>
> =A0 _____
>
>
> No vi= rus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.15/2003 - Release Date: 03/15= /09
> 14:07:00
>
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--001636c5b13a9d78a20465433d31-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db10.mx.aol.com (rly-db10.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.85]) by air-db06.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB063-af049caa081147; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 17:22:29 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db10.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB106-af049caa081147; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 17:22:12 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LmaX8-00032n-4r for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 21:21:10 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LmaX7-00032e-NL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 21:21:09 +0000 Received: from [193.252.22.190] (helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LmaX5-0006Cy-AD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 21:21:09 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3603.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id CD8357000085 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 22:20:59 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.50.116]) by mwinf3603.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 8BCEA7000083 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 22:20:59 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20090325212059572.8BCEA7000083@mwinf3603.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <09E8E03857CB4997BB514DAA7BC43E73@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <864ED1778706409D9A640FF89C5F22C7@Silver> <35BC7A5BC84143BB916FEAA9FA0B67CF@AGB> In-Reply-To: <35BC7A5BC84143BB916FEAA9FA0B67CF@AGB> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 21:20:58 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8064.206 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8064.206 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_TAG_EXIST_TBODY=0.126,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: Re: LF: WSPR G0NBD 502.4 DIAL NOW TILL LATER POSS OVER NIGHT Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_022A_01C9AD8F.976F9290" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY,LINES_OF_YELLING,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME, UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_022A_01C9AD8F.976F9290 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Whats the chance of this .... same time .. same signal ...just a slight dif= ference in the distance ....! Thanks for posting the spots=20 G .=20 2009-03-25 00:56 G0NBD 0.503938 -23 0 IO83lk +13 0.020=20= AA1A FN42pb 5012 3114 =20 2009-03-25 00:56 G0NBD 0.503937 -23 0 IO83lk +13 0.020=20= DJ6YD JO42bg 760 472 =20 From: Graham=20 Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 10:34 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: LF: WSPR G0NBD 502.4 DIAL NOW TILL LATER POSS OVER NIGHT=20 Making hay while the sun (doesn't shine)=20 G0NBD 502.4 DIAL NOW TILL LATER POSS OVER NIGHT=20 Tnx- G .. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.5.283 / Virus Database: 270.11.27/2021 - Release Date: 03/24/09 1= 6:00:00 ------=_NextPart_000_022A_01C9AD8F.976F9290 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Whats the  chance of this .... same ti= me ..=20 same signal ...just a slight difference in the  distance ....!
 
Thanks for posting the  spots <= /DIV>
 
G .
 
 
 
 2009-03-25 00:56   G0NBD   0.503938   -23   0   IO83lk   +13   0.020   AA1A   FN42pb   5012   3114 
 2009-03-25 00:56   G0NBD   0.503937   -23   0   IO83lk   +13   0.020   DJ6YD   JO42bg   760   472 

From: Graham
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 10:34 PM
Subject: LF: WSPR G0NBD 502.4 DIAL NOW TILL LATER POSS OVER NIGH= T=20

Maki= ng =20 hay while the  sun (doesn't shine)
 
G0NB= D 502.4=20 DIAL NOW TILL LATER POSS OVER NIGHT
 
Tnx-= G=20 ..
 
 

 


No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 8.5.283 / Virus Da= tabase:=20 270.11.27/2021 - Release Date: 03/24/09 16:00:00
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SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C99B58.E115F630 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable DI2AG / DJ2LFDear Dave, it was a great test. I had not hoped for these good results. Thanks=20= for this additional info. Yes, DI2AM should be 6 to 10dB better than my sign= al, he has 9W ERP, I have only 1W ERP ( that is, because I do not have a shi= p in my garden ). As F4DTL reported he received WE2XGR and W1TAG last night=20= on 508.xxx. I think I will try also.=20 So best wishes to "the colonies" 73 Walter ----- Original Message -----=20 From: dave.riley3=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 4:42 PM Subject: LF: Re: WSPR-Versuch MW.doc Hi Walter, =20 I would have copied and decoded you many times but after QSL of the first=20= two, I shifted to WE2XVY ( 508 ) frequency who is much closer in Arizona, bu= t nil sigs all night... =20 BTW, allowing for QSB you were -6 db from DI2AM... =20 TNX for good sigs, =20 Dave =20 =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Walter und Marianne Staubach=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 9:36 AM Subject: LF: WSPR-Versuch MW.doc =20 Dear All on 600m, here are some results of the test last night. It was great. 73 Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF =20 =20 =20 DI2AG / DJ2LF =20 Test with WSPR ( beacon-mode ) on MF 505.090MHz =20 March 1. 19:00UTC to March 2. 07:00UTC =20 Results =20 13 stations reported via WSPR, 6stations reported via reflector or gave=20= additional comments. Total sum: 378 reports ODX: AA1A 6077Km ( mni tnx, Dave ) Mni tnx also to Andy, G4JNT, who went QRT with his WSPR beacon that nigh= t. =20 =20 Call QRB Loc Best signal at Poorest signal at =20= Nr. of reports =20 (Km) (SNR) (UTC) (SNR) (UTC) =20 AA1A 6.077 FN42pb -24 02:00 ----------- =20= 2 DJ6LB 11 JN59mm + 8 22:44 +5 22:12 =20= 9 OR7T 481 JO20ix -4 20:02 -6 19:48 =20= 3 G4WGT 1.048 IO83qp -17 20:20 -27 20:10 =20= 7 SQ7MPJ 634 JO91rs -16 20:10 -26 20:20 =20= 22 LA3BEA 1.140 JO29og -8 01:38 -27 06:32 =20= 95 G3XVL 753 JO02nb -3 20:48 -16 20:20 =20= 20 Michael 221 JN49bf +2 18:54 -7 19:00 =20= 10 GM4ISM 1.220 IO85ar -14 23:20 -29 18:28 =20= 85 DD7PC 225 JN49ax -4 18:28 -26 20:20 =20= 6 G0KTN 973 IO81ti +0 00:02 -26 18:02 =20= 54 F4DTL 639 JN18fp -4 22:28 -21 18:02 =20= 17 G4JNT 893 IO90iv -4 20:34 -21 18:22 =20= 48 =20= -------------- =20= Total 378 =20 Mni tnx to All =20 73 Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF 03.02.09 =20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C99B58.E115F630 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable DI2AG / DJ2LF
Dear Dave,
       =20= it was a=20 great test. I had not hoped for these good results. Thanks for this addition= al=20 info. Yes, DI2AM should be 6 to 10dB better than my signal, he has 9W ERP, I= =20 have only 1W ERP ( that is, because I do not have a ship in my garden ). As=20 F4DTL reported he received WE2XGR and W1TAG last night on 508.xxx. I think I= =20 will try also.
So best wishes to "the colonies"
73   Walter
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 dave.riley3
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 4:42=20 PM
Subject: LF: Re: WSPR-Versuch=20 MW.doc

Hi Walter,
 
I would have copied and decoded you many times= but=20 after QSL of the first two, I shifted to WE2XVY ( 508 ) frequency who is m= uch=20 closer in Arizona, but nil sigs all night...
 
BTW, allowing for QSB you were -6 db from=20 DI2AM...
 
TNX for good sigs,
 
Dave
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 9:36= =20 AM
Subject: LF: WSPR-Versuch MW.doc<= /DIV>

 

Dear All o= n=20 600m,

        = ;=20 here are some results of the test last night. It was=20 great.

73  Walter  DI2AG /=20 DJ2LF

 = ;

 = ;

 = ;

DI2AG=20 / DJ2LF

 = ;

Test with=20= WSPR (=20 beacon-mode ) on MF 505.090MHz

 = ;

March 1. 1= 9:00UTC to March=20 2. 07:00UTC

 = ;

Results

 = ;

13 station= s reported via=20 WSPR, 6stations reported via reflector or gave additional=20 comments.

Total sum:= 378=20 reports

ODX: AA1A=20= 6077Km ( mni=20 tnx, Dave )

Mni tnx al= so to Andy,=20 G4JNT, who went QRT with his WSPR beacon that=20 night.

 = ;

 = ;

Call         QRB   Loc     =20=  Best signal at     Poorest signal at    Nr. of reports         = ;     =20

        = ;     =20  (Km)        &nb= sp;    =20     &n= bsp; (SNR)=20 (UTC)    (SNR)=20 (UTC)

 = ;

AA1A     &= nbsp;6.077  FN42pb=     -24  02:00         =20 -----------  &nb= sp;            &= nbsp;       =20   2

DJ6LB       =   =20 11  JN59mm   + 8  22:44&n= bsp;          <= /SPAN>+5  22:12        = ;            &nb= sp;   =20 9

OR7T       &= nbsp; =20 481  JO20ix        = 20:02     &n= bsp;    =20 -6  19:48        = ;            &nb= sp; =20   3

G4WGT   1.048 &n= bsp; IO83qp   &= nbsp; -17  20:20      &nb= sp; =20 -27  20:10       &nbs= p;            &n= bsp;   =20 7

SQ7MPJ     634   JO91rs &n= bsp;    -16&nbs= p; 20:10   &nbs= p;     =20 -26  20:20       &nbs= p;            &n= bsp; =20 22

LA3BEA  1.140  JO29og=       =20 -8  01:38        = ; =20 -27  06:32       &nbs= p;            &n= bsp; =20 95

G3XVL       753  JO= 02nb     &nb= sp;=20 -3  20:48        = ; =20 -16  20:20       &nbs= p;            &n= bsp; =20 20

Michael       221  = JN49bf     &= nbsp;=20 +2  18:54        = ;   =20 -7  19:00        = ;            &nb= sp; =20 10

GM4ISM  1.220  IO85ar=       -14  23:20  &n= bsp;      =20 -29  18:28       &nbs= p;            &n= bsp; =20 85

DD7PC     &= nbsp; 225   JN49ax    &nb= sp; =20 -4  18:28        = ; =20 -26  20:20       &nbs= p;            &n= bsp;   =20 6

G0KTN      &= nbsp;973  IO81ti      &nb= sp; =20 +0  00:02        = ;=20 -26  18:02       &nbs= p;            &n= bsp; =20 54

F4DTL        639  JN= 18fp     &nb= sp; =20 -4  22:28        = ; =20 -21  18:02       &nbs= p;            &n= bsp; =20 17

G4JNT      &= nbsp; 893  IO= 90iv     <= SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">    -4  20:34  &n= bsp;      =20 -21  18:22       &nbs= p;            &n= bsp; =20 48

         = ;            &nb= sp;            &= nbsp;            = ;            &nb= sp;            &= nbsp;            = ;           =20 --------------

         = ;            &nb= sp;            &= nbsp;            = ;      =20     &n= bsp;            =             &nbs= p;            &n= bsp;Total   =20 378

 

       Mni=20 tnx to All

         = ;            &nb= sp;        =20

73=      =20  Walter  DI2AG / DJ2LF<= o:p>

      =20 03.02.09

 

 

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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) I have run the '930 with the AGC off many times. It does pick out signals deeper in the noise floor that way. I have noticed that with using the 270hz first IF filter, that it can pull signals out of the noise very easy. More easy than running no AGC? I don't have that answer yet. 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rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 09:08:37 +0100 (MET) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 09:08:30 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <67EA2B881CA94E48990AD51F0E3E9540@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: XGJ 18-03.jpg Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_vujBg56hHdtEMJQvRdpSXg)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 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Hi Warren and All,
capture XGJ
Henny cpm
best 73s
 
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
XGJ 18-03.jpg

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From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md09.mx.aol.com (rly-md09.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.147]) by air-md06.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMD062-92749bfda734d; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 13:14:30 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md09.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD097-92749bfda734d; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 13:14:29 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ljcrx-0004J5-Rc for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 17:14:25 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ljcrx-0004Iv-Ep for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 17:14:25 +0000 Received: from mail-qy0-f112.google.com ([209.85.221.112]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ljcrw-0003nI-PP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 17:14:25 +0000 Received: by mail-qy0-f112.google.com with SMTP id 10so232259qyk.30 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 10:14:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=FgXjswHB55ebGIN4GyNfhCt8YcblT362jHrB5ntNz8I=; b=tHa+sH6NscAKu2+9QlQhm/E3/Lqnjwy10yKRhuA0HRKoX4A0o5vto4VRMl082NDok3 ax98+EWsCZgbGkk9RcUS7XZPfqk8UGoRCOwWiSCPTnruKny9rxrnJxtsmk/uASgo1YHT Htu2cJg1MginZxjQ5AF3/pTGeNqBw5JnKKzm8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=E8hQC+QE7ZTc3uKXes6k6hCBR1eyRwmePvEpCN0f35455RuRsO6/qwUrJM7pnq0U3c O3Ci6UFBMZ40cbrpy2ErhkY/d8zk+uZMVUbMdBrQ0ANriz6pw+k+xTbWNYw+kpeEOP36 h9eXIULjCppEzIiyJ5juaO7MdPBnl62PqHcBw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.74.84 with SMTP id t20mr400940qaj.332.1237310064372; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 10:14:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 12:14:24 -0500 Message-ID: <57a24ca70903171014i110b8eebla467a2ccfb20f950@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: Re: LF: XGJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m219.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) OK Lubos, XGJ will be on again tonite. --=20 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 2009/3/17 Lubos OK2BVG : > Hello Warren, LF! > I wasn=B4t on 137.777kHz last night, becouse my beacon OK0EMW transmitted.= . But > I will be ready this night and I am just looking forward to your signal. > > 73 Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS > > ________________________________ > St=E1hn=ECte si zcela nov=FD Messenger 2009! Klikni zde! --=20 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me10.mx.aol.com (rly-me10.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.44]) by air-me08.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINME081-9de49b028db1d7; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 14:33:14 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me10.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME102-9de49b028db1d7; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 14:32:47 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LfJIV-00005S-TO for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 19:31:59 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LfJIV-00005J-DU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 19:31:59 +0000 Received: from mail-fx0-f174.google.com ([209.85.220.174]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LfJIU-0000vL-EG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 19:31:59 +0000 Received: by fxm22 with SMTP id 22so93213fxm.4 for ; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 11:31:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=3I9rCV9TVmskEJETc/KBvjU0JXzTfagI8FbiY2BMH/M=; b=caxGaehk3/4vnfnDoGdzRJdK4Asjw0k3PRQfPPtHisZ+7l+48p0KAGabRQysTu9fmr 5ZPFX6dBZcKTdXKfRjLn91DVqvADj6u4vAHYS2w2wq2lGLxceO9mhTCoWewy+b2BCTF6 lgFvDAb6KhS2PRsIVtzR2A7iMl+BOW2bXySDU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=FLNzxzVgpyMQclftb/thpvdVUTT0A7LKSlUXOjL50TCUV5cIUWvK0qiiBVA9S7yMi7 VrOplqdCaSZvVuzr5R+j5HZ7L4AoDYEe/NYBU+OzIskrNVoJDhNvFi72gd/zelI3a4Jg uu6o9TomNWne9sjJnxgtQo5GqhEFB2g7FLb5c= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.107.19 with SMTP id z19mr1281542fao.27.1236281511926; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 11:31:51 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <000a01c99a91$a54a1180$1402a8c0@e7010> <7.0.1.0.1.20090305091934.0181aca8@magma.ca> Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 19:31:51 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Deep copy... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d278.1 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) It all depends on your resolution bandwith which you don't specify. Pnoise =3D kTB With my SDR-IQ set to 190kHz span and 131072 point FFT, resolution bandwidth =3D 1.5Hz and Rx set to +10dB gain to get the best noise figure: -145dBm with a 50R load. With the Antenna connected this rises to -115dBm (measured at 1920 UTC) with no obvious lines or peaks contributing. If you normalise to the standard 2.5kHz noise measurement bandwidth, that equates to -112 (50R) and -82dBm.(antenna) respectively Thermal noise at reference temperature of 290K is -174dBm/Hz, so for 2.5kHz that gives -140dBm suggesting the noise figure of the SDR-IQ could be 140 - 112 =3D 28dB. It probably isn't this low as we're in the quantisation noise with no input signal, but a NF of 15 - 20dB would probably be a rough guesstimate. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/3/5 dave.riley3 : > Thanks to ALL who responded with quick and cogent findings... > > It has seemed for a time that with the receiver AGC and NBs OFF that I > generally can see a deeper signal, depending on conditions... > > The final audio filter assures that the program does not have to deal with > noise outside of the passband of interest... > > TNX > > > Here is today's gnawing question...=A0 What is the expected ambient noise=20= say > @ 600M one should expect?? > Rural, City, Country, remote battery operated, etc. combinations... > Especially well away from AC neutral wires... > > Today I ran the input to the SDR-IQ=A0into a 50 ohm load and set a long > integrate ( 64+ ) =A0and saw approx -134 dbm of baseband noise with NO > signals... > > I then connected to the outside antenna with no external pre-amp or any no= n > linear device and saw -117 dbm of noise across 10 khz. with a few weak and > floating predictable BB noises.. > > At night it is sure to be up to near -100 dbm depending on conditions and > noises present... > > What do YOU get for a noise difference between a terminated antenna input > and your regular receive antenna?? > > I'm about to place several e-probes about this place in order to mix and > match phase and amplitudes in order to see what net gain can be made to th= e > SNR with the hope that the most offending noises will not be in the path o= f > a desired signal... > > TNX and ain't this fun??? > > Dave @ WD2XSH/17 > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bill de Carle > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 9:58 AM > Subject: Re: LF: Deep copy... > At 09:25 PM 3/4/2009, you wrote: > > I seem to get best results while trying to pull signals out of the noise > when the AGC of the receiver is OFF as well as the Noise Blanker and Noise > reduction features being OFF... > > Do you concur?? > > Also setting a good audio filter to the passband of interest seems to bypa= ss > some heavy static hits as well... > > I've noticed that when doing HF frequency measurement tests (working to th= e > nearest milliHertz) - turning off the AGC under high static conditions see= ms > to improve the accuracy of the measurement, at least with the software I > use.=A0 One plausible explanation is that AGC action necessarily introduce= s > amplitude modulation (on all signals in the passband).=A0 When I process t= he > AGC'd signal with what amounts to a very narrow DSP filter the added > amplitude modulation shows up as apparent sidebands close-in on the signal > I'm trying to measure.=A0 If the power in those sidebands is comparable to > that of the signal whose frequency I'm looking for, the FFT algorithm (whi= ch > assumes the real signal has the largest amplitude) gets confused and comes > up with an estimated frequency somewhere between the correct value and tha= t > of a nearby sideband.=A0 The effect is small however because the AGC pumpi= ng > action doesn't occur very fast so the added sidebands are seen to be only > some milliHertz away from the signal.=A0 The sidebands occur on both sides= of > the "real" signal, so one might expect them to cancel out but in practice > they don't because the amount of error depends on where the "real" signal > falls with respect to the fixed frequency bins of the FFT.=A0 It should be > possible to model the AGC action of a particular receiver and compensate f= or > it in the software.=A0 No doubt the phenomenon becomes less significant wi= th > smaller FFT's or shorter integration times.=A0 Changing the AGC setting > between SLOW-FAST-OFF might help under some conditions.=A0 With QRSS-60 > signaling rates it can take a long time to find out which setting is > optimum, especially when band conditions are changing or the QSB period is > close to a bit time, hi! > > VE2IQ > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg02.mx.aol.com (rly-mg02.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.108]) by air-mg01.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMG012-9fc49c09e641b; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 03:10:49 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg02.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG026-9fc49c09e641b; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 03:10:30 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ljpuq-0003Pv-Jl for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 07:10:16 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ljpuq-0003Pm-2a for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 07:10:16 +0000 Received: from [80.12.242.18] (helo=smtp19.orange.fr) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ljpuo-0007WE-EN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 07:10:16 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1917.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id E5EE320000AC for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 08:10:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from JR (Mix-Nancy-110-1-11.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.248.199.11]) by mwinf1917.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 2339D20000B3 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 08:10:05 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20090318071006144.2339D20000B3@mwinf1917.orange.fr Message-ID: <200903180810020049.1FF93C78@smtp.wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <49C01194.2010305@online.fr> References: <49C01194.2010305@online.fr> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (P) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 08:10:02 +0100 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: [137kHz] Test de f1afj qrss60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Nothing heard here. Much QRM, QRN and LX. 73 John F5VLF *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 17/03/2009 at 22:09 Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 (F1AFJ) wrote: >Hello LF >I am in test on 137775 qrss60, 300 W until 22:00z >Your reports will be welcome >73 Jean-Pierre f1afj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da02.mx.aol.com (rly-da02.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.76]) by air-da08.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDA084-a5749c1a11c3b1; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:34:33 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da02.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA027-a5749c1a11c3b1; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:34:22 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lk78h-0006R3-Iv for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 01:33:43 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lk78h-0006Qu-2p for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 01:33:43 +0000 Received: from fish2.hurontel.on.ca ([216.46.129.163]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lk78f-0005Sh-Bh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 01:33:43 +0000 Received: from weazle (pppoe.dyn-216.46.157.28.hurontel.on.ca [216.46.157.28]) by fish2.hurontel.on.ca (Spam Firewall) with SMTP id 874A3917AEB; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:33:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from weazle (pppoe.dyn-216.46.157.28.hurontel.on.ca [216.46.157.28]) by fish2.hurontel.on.ca with SMTP id 0FgPNRWE7iwrChb9; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:33:32 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <000701c9a832$b4b59500$0b01a8c0@weazle> From: "J. B. Weazle McCreath" To: Cc: Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 01:33:20 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: WSPR in EN93DR Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hello Jay, John, gang, Hardly DX, but your whispering is quite solid here this evening. On the other rig, Shanwick A.T.C. on 2872 is booming in. One day soon we'll be griping about storm noise! 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL Solar and wind powered Lowfer " EAR" 188.830 EN93dr http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da10.mx.aol.com (rly-da10.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.84]) by air-da10.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDA104-a9249c0a61f36a; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 03:43:44 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da10.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA102-a9249c0a61f36a; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 03:43:28 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LjqQl-0003mL-FR for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 07:43:15 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LjqQl-0003mC-4p for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 07:43:15 +0000 Received: from smtp5-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.5]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LjqQh-0005Dc-8F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 07:43:15 +0000 Received: from smtp5-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp5-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52602D4812F for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 08:43:03 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp5-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E896D4814B for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 08:43:01 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <49C0A604.4050200@online.fr> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 08:43:00 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <49C01194.2010305@online.fr> <200903180810020049.1FF93C78@smtp.wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <200903180810020049.1FF93C78@smtp.wanadoo.fr> X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: Re: LF: [137kHz] Test de f1afj qrss60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) TNX John , 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj John RABSON a =E9crit : > Nothing heard here. Much QRM, QRN and LX. > > 73 > John F5VLF > > *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** > > On 17/03/2009 at 22:09 Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 (F1AFJ) wrote: > > =20 >> Hello LF >> I am in test on 137775 qrss60, 300 W until 22:00z >> Your reports will be welcome >> 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj >> =20 > > > > > > > > > =20 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg06.mx.aol.com (rly-dg06.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.90]) by air-dg02.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDG022-5d149cb38db314; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 04:12:23 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg06.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG064-5d149cb38db314; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 04:12:13 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LmkgC-0006SO-Mu for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 08:11:12 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LmkgC-0006SF-Bd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 08:11:12 +0000 Received: from psmtp13.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.25]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LmkgA-0007wl-Cv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 08:11:12 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp13.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KH300F9FTEDVW@psmtp13.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 09:11:02 +0100 (MET) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 09:11:02 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <49D5E3D4D34C47D9BA0E850BFBD9A615@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: XGJ 26-03.jpg Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_vZn1oiQAPt8ASdMFmK96Yw)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_vZn1oiQAPt8ASdMFmK96Yw) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_C3ksqShB/KLydD+MGIUUCQ)" --Boundary_(ID_C3ksqShB/KLydD+MGIUUCQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Hello Warren,Lf capture XGJ Henny Pa3cpm Best 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: XGJ 26-03.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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(we0h@75.168.141.63 with plain) by smtp110.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Mar 2009 17:42:57 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: SVzVDWoVM1kfhcwuB7Gf484SL1vsbSZhiSt04FVHMFNwJBaVs2qdoptj4zL5V95hPtyiq5N6euIShlWFt9yOYrVf_t7h1TXDztb8puTKaNLQ13TB2lpB3dQH2F1KM6xXg6ICPfWA_kXb8VoGfdIsuEtOYvFRLNC2gCDx5X7PolAQ95KonlMUsKYIr2W5_tuA5psNAgBI7yLWO4mqLK2yfmNwPckpO75Rjg-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <49C3D59C.50909@yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 12:42:52 -0500 From: Mike-WE0H User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090318) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <57a24ca70903200951x42ca0ee9rac2f6e87b975896c@mail.gmail.com> <49C3D393.18849.5C9A7B@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> In-Reply-To: <49C3D393.18849.5C9A7B@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Ropex Info? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) A better link: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/mike.dennison/index/lf//ropex/ Mike WE0H Mike D wrote: > I have posted the documents at: > > http://:lf.apersonalguide.co.uk/ropex > > Mike, G3XDV > ========== > > >> I have just acquired a Ropex "The First" transmitter for 136kHz - >> but without documentation of any kind. I know that Ropex did not >> supply anything more than a single sheet of instructions but I'm >> lacking even that. Questions: 1) Anyone have a copy of the instruction >> sheet that they could copy or scan? 2) Any info on mods (injecting an >> external vfo for example)? 3) Anybody do any 'reverse engineering' of >> the circuit? >> >> Any info at all is much appreciated! >> >> -- >> 73 Warren K2ORS >> WD2XGJ >> WD2XSH/23 >> WE2XEB/2 >> WE2XGR/1 >> >> >> > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df06.mx.aol.com (rly-df06.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.19]) by air-df05.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDF052-55749afe91029a; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 10:00:51 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df06.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF062-55749afe91029a; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 10:00:34 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LfF1T-0004pF-4J for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 14:58:07 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LfF1S-0004p6-Ij for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 14:58:06 +0000 Received: from mail9.primus.ca ([216.254.141.176] helo=mail-06.primus.ca) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LfF1R-0003SS-By for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 14:58:06 +0000 Received: from dyn-dsl-bb-76-75-125-241.nrtco.net ([76.75.125.241] helo=Bigmachine.magma.ca) by mail-06.primus.ca with esmtpa (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LfF1P-0006iA-1U for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 09:58:03 -0500 Message-Id: <7.0.1.0.1.20090305091934.0181aca8@magma.ca> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.1.0 Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 09:58:04 -0500 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: Bill de Carle In-Reply-To: References: <000a01c99a91$a54a1180$1402a8c0@e7010> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Authenticated: ve2iq - dyn-dsl-bb-76-75-125-241.nrtco.net (Bigmachine.magma.ca) [76.75.125.241] X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_10_20=0.945,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Deep copy... Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_3263783==.ALT" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --=====================_3263783==.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 09:25 PM 3/4/2009, you wrote: >I seem to get best results while trying to pull signals out of the >noise when the AGC of the receiver is OFF as well as the Noise >Blanker and Noise reduction features being OFF... > >Do you concur?? > >Also setting a good audio filter to the passband of interest seems >to bypass some heavy static hits as well... I've noticed that when doing HF frequency measurement tests (working to the nearest milliHertz) - turning off the AGC under high static conditions seems to improve the accuracy of the measurement, at least with the software I use. One plausible explanation is that AGC action necessarily introduces amplitude modulation (on all signals in the passband). When I process the AGC'd signal with what amounts to a very narrow DSP filter the added amplitude modulation shows up as apparent sidebands close-in on the signal I'm trying to measure. If the power in those sidebands is comparable to that of the signal whose frequency I'm looking for, the FFT algorithm (which assumes the real signal has the largest amplitude) gets confused and comes up with an estimated frequency somewhere between the correct value and that of a nearby sideband. The effect is small however because the AGC pumping action doesn't occur very fast so the added sidebands are seen to be only some milliHertz away from the signal. The sidebands occur on both sides of the "real" signal, so one might expect them to cancel out but in practice they don't because the amount of error depends on where the "real" signal falls with respect to the fixed frequency bins of the FFT. It should be possible to model the AGC action of a particular receiver and compensate for it in the software. No doubt the phenomenon becomes less significant with smaller FFT's or shorter integration times. Changing the AGC setting between SLOW-FAST-OFF might help under some conditions. With QRSS-60 signaling rates it can take a long time to find out which setting is optimum, especially when band conditions are changing or the QSB period is close to a bit time, hi! VE2IQ --=====================_3263783==.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable At 09:25 PM 3/4/2009, you wrote:
I seem to g= et best results while trying to pull signals out of the noise when the AGC of the receiver is OFF as well as the Noise Blanker and Noise reduction features being OFF...
 
Do you concur??
 
Also setting a good audio filter to the passband of interest seems to bypass some heavy static hits as well...

I've noticed that when doing HF frequency measurement tests (working to the nearest milliHertz) - turning off the AGC under high static conditions seems to improve the accuracy of the measurement, at least with the software I use.  One plausible explanation is that AGC action necessarily introduces amplitude modulation (on all signals in the passband).  When I process the AGC'd signal with what amounts to a very narrow DSP filter the added amplitude modulation shows up as apparent sidebands close-in on the signal I'm trying to measure.  If the power in those sidebands is comparable to that of the signal whose frequency I'm looking for, the FFT algorithm (which assumes the real signal has the largest amplitude) gets confused and comes up with an estimated frequency somewhere between the correct value and that of a nearby sideband.  The effect is small however because the AGC pumping action doesn't occur very fast so the added sidebands are seen to be only some milliHertz away from the signal.  The sidebands occur on both sides of the "real" signal, so one might expect them to cancel out but in practice they don't because the amount of error depends on where the "real" signal falls with respect to the fixed frequency bins of the FFT.  It should be possible to model the AGC action of a particular receiver and compensate for it in the software.  No doubt the phenomenon becomes less significant with smaller FFT's or shorter integration times.  Changing the AGC setting between SLOW-FAST-OFF might help under some conditions.  With QRSS-60 signaling rates it can take a long time to find out which setting is optimum, especially when band conditions are changing or the QSB period is close to a bit time, hi!

VE2IQ
--=====================_3263783==.ALT-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh03.mx.aol.com (rly-mh03.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.139]) by air-mh04.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMH043-bc449b304ef345; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 18:36:25 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh03.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH034-bc449b304ef345; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 18:36:17 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lg63h-0002p1-U4 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 23:35:57 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lg63h-0002os-9E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 23:35:57 +0000 Received: from vms173003pub.verizon.net ([206.46.173.3]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lg63f-0001UF-Ls for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 23:35:57 +0000 Received: from DR2 ([71.184.212.10]) by vms173003.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KG5005WCTJJIZ3E@vms173003.mailsrvcs.net> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 17:35:44 -0600 (CST) Message-id: From: "dave.riley3" To: "Carl" , "James M. Walker" , , Cc: "600MRG" References: <000e01c99f02$f6f67df0$41b2fea9@W1KW> <2A3326C8358D483CB97E5776EA0833A7@DR2> <189E2993E39D4765841B1F501C87C42D@KITTYMA123> <447FEB36210040C0A6AF424BF72F21C2@ESHOP1> <4EE82775CC244792B0AD72E53FECF3C1@KITTYMA123> <83E85DB621094E32B6E9B4B1D425737F@DR2> Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2009 18:35:41 -0500 MIME-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36 Subject: LF: Re: 600MRG> Re: Re: Looking for HF to LF-Transverter, ... ? Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=response Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 I didn't take it as insulting, just having fun... Life is too short to not have fun @ it... Plug and play is here to stay... Works for me... /17 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carl" To: "dave.riley3" ; "James M. Walker" ; ; Cc: "600MRG" Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 4:59 PM Subject: Re: 600MRG> Re: Re: Looking for HF to LF-Transverter, ... ? >I hadnt meant my post to be insulting Dave, Im sorry that you took it that >way. > > Carl > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "dave.riley3" > To: "Carl" ; "James M. Walker" ; > ; > Cc: "600MRG" > Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 2:39 PM > Subject: Re: 600MRG> Re: Re: Looking for HF to LF-Transverter, ... ? > > >> So take the idea and prototype and roll your own, to perfection even... >> >> This was an example of off the shelf plug and play... >> No shoddy quality was meant or implied... >> >> The final version is ALL SMA, cheaper by the dozen on e-bay>> >> >> http://cgi.ebay.com/Qty-10-SMA-male-to-SMA-male-6-inch-Cables_W0QQitemZ120381823826QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item120381823826&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50 >> >> Still having fun @ ham radio after 55 years of it + SWL.. Ain't it >> something?? >> >> Can't solder or see much any more, but plug and play will get me to the >> wheelchair... >> >> Have a Happy Home Brew... >> >> TNX from Dave @ WD2XSH/17 WN1AAI >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Carl" >> To: "James M. Walker" ; "dave.riley3" >> ; ; >> >> Cc: "600MRG" >> Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 2:20 PM >> Subject: Re: 600MRG> Re: Re: Looking for HF to LF-Transverter, ... ? >> >> >>> Bored, no. But as someone who has spent decades in RF labs Im a bit >>> experienced with connector problems causing grief. >>> >>> If you have something worthwhile to say try and create a useful >>> statement instead of whining. >>> >>> Carl. >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "James M. Walker" >>> To: "Carl" ; "dave.riley3" >>> ; ; >>> >>> Cc: "600MRG" >>> Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 12:59 PM >>> Subject: Re: 600MRG> Re: Re: Looking for HF to LF-Transverter, ... ? >>> >>> >>>> Are you bored or what? This is just one example of an answer to the >>>> initial >>>> question. Lighten up with this stuff. >>>> Jim >>>> WB2FCN/WD2XSH-22 >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Carl" >>>> To: "dave.riley3" ; >>>> ; >>>> Cc: "600MRG" >>>> Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 7:59 AM >>>> Subject: Re: 600MRG> Re: Re: Looking for HF to LF-Transverter, ... ? >>>> >>>> >>>>> WOW, there are 19 RF connections and only the SMA are really long term >>>>> reliable! >>>>> >>>>> Carl >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "dave.riley3" >>>>> To: ; >>>>> Cc: "600MRG" >>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 6:32 AM >>>>> Subject: 600MRG> Re: Re: Looking for HF to LF-Transverter, ... ? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Marco, >>>>>> >>>>>> Indeed the little transverter did well 15 years ago on LowFer >>>>>> frequencies with some help from external L/C selective circuits... >>>>>> I used it with the TS930 and believe that it is still running well... >>>>>> >>>>>> Now life is easier and you can plug and play with some off the shelf >>>>>> items or from e-bay. >>>>>> >>>>>> Here is complete transverter that works: >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.radiocom.net/600M/TxVerter2.jpg >>>>>> >>>>>> Or only use one side for TX or RX >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.radiocom.net/600M/TXconverter.jpg >>>>>> >>>>>> Good luck with this fun project. It is the one I use now... >>>>>> >>>>>> TNX >>>>>> >>>>>> Dave - AA1A >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "Holger 'Geri', DK8KW" >>>>>> To: >>>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 3:59 AM >>>>>> Subject: LF: Re: Looking for HF to LF-Transverter, ... ? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Marco, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> have a look here: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.radiocom.net/txvr.jpg >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I haven't tried it myself but it looks simple enough to give it a >>>>>>> try. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 73 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO (currently on 440.015 kHz, tnx for the reception >>>>>>> reports) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>> From: "Scholz, Marco " >>>>>>> To: >>>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 9:55 PM >>>>>>> Subject: LF: Looking for HF to LF-Transverter, ... ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dear LF-Group, >>>>>>> sorry for bandwidth, i looking for some sort of of mixer/transverter >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> use a shortwave transceiver on 137KHz for WSPR. Can be in >>>>>>> experimental >>>>>>> stage, but i need something to start. To build something from >>>>>>> scratch is >>>>>>> a bit a challenge for me, so i thought i ask around. Maybe someone >>>>>>> has >>>>>>> to sell some parts? >>>>>>> If yes, please send me a mail to dd7pc@gmx.de >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Many thanks, vy73 >>>>>>> Marco >>>>>>> DD7PC >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *********** The Primary 600MRG E-mail List Website is: ********** >>>>>> ******************* http://www.500kc.com/ *********************** >>>>>> ******* Secondary is: http://www.mines.uidaho.edu/~SHMRG/ ******* >>>>>> *** Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to this address: **** >>>>>> ************** majordomo@piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu ************** >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *********** The Primary 600MRG E-mail List Website is: ********** >>>>> ******************* http://www.500kc.com/ *********************** >>>>> ******* Secondary is: http://www.mines.uidaho.edu/~SHMRG/ ******* >>>>> *** Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to this address: **** >>>>> ************** majordomo@piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu ************** >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *********** The Primary 600MRG E-mail List Website is: ********** >>> ******************* http://www.500kc.com/ *********************** >>> ******* Secondary is: http://www.mines.uidaho.edu/~SHMRG/ ******* >>> *** Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to this address: **** >>> ************** majordomo@piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu ************** >>> >> >> >> >> *********** The Primary 600MRG E-mail List Website is: ********** >> ******************* http://www.500kc.com/ *********************** >> ******* Secondary is: http://www.mines.uidaho.edu/~SHMRG/ ******* >> *** Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to this address: **** >> ************** majordomo@piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu ************** >> > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh11.mx.aol.com (rly-mh11.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.147]) by air-mh04.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMH043-61849ce7d9921; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 15:42:28 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh11.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH115-61849ce7d9921; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 15:42:19 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LnePO-0000cy-Gh for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 19:41:34 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LnePO-0000cp-3L for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 19:41:34 +0000 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LnePL-00070G-LJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 19:41:34 +0000 Received: (qmail 26252 invoked by uid 0); 28 Mar 2009 19:40:25 -0000 Received: from 85.178.94.99 by www023.gmx.net with HTTP; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 20:40:25 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 20:40:25 +0100 From: "Dennis" In-Reply-To: <007201c9afda$c31fc3e0$6501a8c0@TORRE> Message-ID: <20090328194025.227840@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <49CBF051.9090707@usa.net> <49CBFB9E.9040903@usa.net> <49CC0310.3040808@telia.com> <200903270850420424.4E77B52F@smtp.wanadoo.fr> <007201c9afda$c31fc3e0$6501a8c0@TORRE> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Authenticated: #4122078 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/xKjtc3MHxFkJFUD3K+ELv/ILLIfBJv/avXSJ7oB yF3OlObFJAxMgLHqm+I6u/kZk3NudK2mlbmg== X-GMX-UID: TxmmBDs4bHIhf6zdBzQ0g40iJihyatAk X-FuHaFi: 0.53 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Subject: Re: LF: Lazy Man's CW made it to Venus and back Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi! May be ;) off topic, but to enrich your collection: German: Perlen vor die Säue (werfen). Polish: (Rzucic/rzucac) perly przed wieprze. 73 Dennis DL6NVC -------- Original-Nachricht -------- > Datum: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 19:24:06 -0000 > Von: "Henrique Pessoa" > An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Betreff: Re: LF: Lazy Man\'s CW made it to Venus and back > Well, for the statistics, a portuguese version same sense is also > available it reads " dar pérolas a porcos ". > 73 Henrique CT1HX > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John RABSON" > To: > Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 7:50 AM > Subject: Re: LF: Lazy Man's CW made it to Venus and back > > > On 26/03/2009 at 23:34 Johan H. Bodin wrote: > > >I didn't know it was an English saying/proverb! The swedish translation > >"Kasta pärlor för svinen" is sometimes used in similar circumstances... > > Very close. The English version has the same origins as Swedish "Casting > pearls before swine". > > 73 > John F5VLF > > > > > -- Neu: GMX FreeDSL Komplettanschluss mit DSL 6.000 Flatrate + Telefonanschluss für nur 17,95 Euro/mtl.!* http://dsl.gmx.de/?ac=OM.AD.PD003K11308T4569a From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd03.mx.aol.com (rly-dd03.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.150]) by air-dd10.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDD102-b6949c352fadb; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 04:25:47 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd03.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD033-b6949c352fadb; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 04:25:32 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lka2O-00006T-SG for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 08:25:08 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lka2O-00006K-IB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 08:25:08 +0000 Received: from psmtp09.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.23]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lka2L-0007VN-TB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 08:25:08 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp09.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KGS00CE9Q1MAK@psmtp09.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 09:24:58 +0100 (MET) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 09:24:51 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <9A558D8F7ED246689CFFC24CFD780E99@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: F1AFJ Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_caIqbcxQwNlZYXgj6Q7y4g)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_caIqbcxQwNlZYXgj6Q7y4g) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Hi Jean-Pierre,the spring is comming i think, it is FiAFJ, sri, Henny pa3cpm, best 73s. --Boundary_(ID_caIqbcxQwNlZYXgj6Q7y4g) Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
Hi Jean-Pierre,the spring is comming i think,
 
it is FiAFJ,
 
sri,
Henny pa3cpm,
best 73s.
--Boundary_(ID_caIqbcxQwNlZYXgj6Q7y4g)-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh11.mx.aol.com (rly-mh11.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.147]) by air-mh02.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMH024-61449cca6de3b7; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 06:13:56 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh11.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH111-61449cca6de3b7; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 06:13:52 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ln93h-0001ds-VU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 10:13:05 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ln93h-0001dj-Iv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 10:13:05 +0000 Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.44]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ln93g-0004JC-8Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 10:13:05 +0000 Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (smtpshost02.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.75]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53ACC51C00E for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 11:12:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31CC7F3864 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 11:12:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.242.4]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24E66F3863 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 11:12:19 +0100 (CET) Received: by webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 567F15CC9; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 11:12:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from 48.35-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (48.35-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [81.241.35.48]) by webmail4.kuleuven.be (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 11:12:19 +0100 Message-ID: <20090327111219.y3bcvqcrev6swg8s@webmail4.kuleuven.be> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 11:12:19 +0100 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 81.241.35.48 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Lazy Man's CW made it to Venus and back Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Wolf, congrats to all involved. I remember that long ago (in the 1980's) there was an 'april fools' =20 article in the april number of CQ-DL where EME was declared an old hat =20 and the first EVE (earth-venus-earth) QSO's were claimed. After 25 years reality takes over ... 73, Rik ON7YD Quoting dl4yhf@freenet.de: > MessageGreetings everyone, > > Not really LF, but QRSS... > > A group of radio amateurs from AMSAT-DL has successfully transmitted > a (very short) message in QRSS, consisting of the two letters "HI" > (im memoriam of old OSCARS) to Venus on 2.4 GHz, and received the > reflection. > Each TX/RX over lasted for about 5 minutes (the travelling time). The > transmitter was a 5 kW magnetron disciplined to a narrow-band > transmitter. Details on the AMSAT-DL website. The German HR TV will > send a documentation tonight at 19:30 (local). The EVE > (Earth-Venus-Earth) details follow tomorrow on Hessischer Rundfunk. > > 73, > Wolf DL4YHF > (from the IUZ in Bochum) > > -- > [1] > > Links: > ------ > [1] =20 > http://adserver.freenet.de/click.ng/site=3Dfn&prod=3Dchetools&kat=3Dinhalt= e&tbl=3Dwebmail&ppos=3D14&TransactionID=3D1238087483333455&rgtg=3D256 > Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db05.mx.aol.com (rly-db05.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.80]) by air-db06.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB061-ac449c4db6b2ec; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 08:20:11 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db05.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB052-ac449c4db6b2ec; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 08:19:57 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ll0B1-0003FE-S3 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 12:19:47 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ll0B1-0003Ez-9C for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 12:19:47 +0000 Received: from imr-d01.mx.aol.com ([205.188.157.39]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ll0Ay-0001XR-UH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 12:19:47 +0000 Received: from F4DTL@aol.com by imr-d01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id l.d51.450e7994 (39952) for ; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 08:19:32 -0400 (EDT) From: F4DTL@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 08:19:31 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5029 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Score: 1.7 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: LF: G3XDV F4DTL Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_d51.450e7994.36f63553_boundary" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --part1_d51.450e7994.36f63553_boundary Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1237637971" -------------------------------1237637971 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Many thanx Mike for this first LF QSO with you. 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Many thanx Mike for this first LF QSO with you.
 
Best regards
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2009 00:23:01 +0000 Received: from vms173009pub.verizon.net ([206.46.173.9]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LmdN4-0001MC-LX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 00:23:01 +0000 Received: from DR2 ([71.184.212.10]) by vms173009.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KH3005GD7PX84CY@vms173009.mailsrvcs.net> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 19:22:46 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <4A6AE023E8F54CDF9ABFC1DB78F176BA@DR2> From: "dave.riley3" To: Cc: "600MRG" References: Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 20:22:45 -0400 MIME-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: WSPR tonight Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0105_01C9AD87.74E9A830" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.1 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_40_50, HTML_MESSAGE,LINES_OF_YELLING autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0105_01C9AD87.74E9A830 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 090325 2318 15 -17 3.6 0.504500 SM6BHZ JO57 30 =20 090325 2322 14 -17 3.6 0.504500 SM6BHZ JO57 30 =20 090325 2330 12 -18 3.6 0.504500 SM6BHZ JO57 30 =20 090325 2336 6 -25 3.6 0.504500 SM6BHZ JO57 30 =20 090325 2342 7 -24 3.6 0.504500 SM6BHZ JO57 30 =20 090325 2350 4 -27 3.8 0.504500 SM6BHZ JO57 30 =20 090325 2354 7 -25 3.8 0.503900 SM6BHZ JO57 30 =20 090326 0000 9 -21 1.4 0.503939 G0NBD IO83 13 =20 090326 0010 14 -18 1.2 0.503882 M0BMU IO91 33 =20 090326 0010 6 -24 1.4 0.503939 G0NBD IO83 13 =20 090326 0012 13 -20 1.2 0.503882 M0BMU IO91 33 QRN S5 from cloud bumpers All sigs good and clear on ARGO =20 TNX from Dave @ FN42pb ------=_NextPart_000_0105_01C9AD87.74E9A830 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
090325 2318  15 -17  3.6  =20 0.504500  SM6BHZ JO57=20 30         
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QRN S5 from cloud bumpers
 
All sigs good and clear on=20 ARGO    
 
 
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boundary="_06b6b152-4cd4-4551-82e5-0c9fe67689ce_" Subject: LF: XGJ_II X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_06b6b152-4cd4-4551-82e5-0c9fe67689ce_ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_cf17156d-e964-43bb-be49-efc22704d1c7_" --_cf17156d-e964-43bb-be49-efc22704d1c7_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Warren and LF once more! The LF propagation was very good this morning, as you can see on the attache= d picture. Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS _________________________________________________________________ Pozvi sv=E9 p=F8=E1tele z Facebooku a Hotmailu do Messengeru! https://www.invite2messenger.net/Default.aspx=3D --_cf17156d-e964-43bb-be49-efc22704d1c7_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Warren and LF once more!
The LF propagation was very good this morn= ing, as you can see on the attached picture.

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16:07:05 +0000 Received: from mailout11.t-online.de ([194.25.134.85]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lnb3n-0001SS-67 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 16:07:05 +0000 Received: from fwd08.aul.t-online.de by mailout11.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 1Lnb3l-0006Sd-02; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 17:07:01 +0100 Received: from e7010 (TtPvM-ZGohy8-CtYSib9XWMLIGXGRQOE93TCSW0MSRv+lnDvXgrnbCEqet9t7D+Q-t@[84.147.191.1]) by fwd08.aul.t-online.de with smtp id 1Lnb3k-1hn9aS0; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 17:07:00 +0100 Message-ID: <005e01c9afbf$38c46860$1402a8c0@e7010> From: "Walter und Marianne Staubach" To: References: <004201c9afaa$79a0c410$1402a8c0@e7010> <0FCC9C7E3D9442C88B89EDE75E634BA9@DR2> Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 17:06:54 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4927.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 X-ID: TtPvM-ZGohy8-CtYSib9XWMLIGXGRQOE93TCSW0MSRv+lnDvXgrnbCEqet9t7D+Q-t X-TOI-MSGID: d078dd62-fdea-4abf-b2be-19810d6a426d X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Re: DI2AG WSPR Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_005B_01C9AFC7.988BEEF0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_005B_01C9AFC7.988BEEF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tnx, Dave, for your effort. Hope the noise will be off. And for Ha-Jo: Tnx f= or your proposal. Looked in my trash-box and found an "EME 505 Netzfilter". As my three lamps have one commmon line, it shouldn`t be too difficult to ma= ke a test in that line. Meanwhile - when working on MF - I should use candle= s :-) 73 Walter =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: dave.riley3=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2009 4:43 PM Subject: LF: Re: DI2AG WSPR Hi Walter, =20 I set the RX last night and came back to find high white noise masking ALL= EU signals, not a trace of any... =20 Will set the traps tonight again... =20 TNX =20 Dave @ /17 =20 =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Walter und Marianne Staubach=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2009 9:38 AM Subject: LF: DI2AG WSPR Dear All on MF,=20 DI2AG is still running in WSPR, 0.5W ERP on 505.090KHz. TNX to= G0HNW for his numerous reports last night and also to F4DTL and DJ6LB. DI2A= G will be transmitting continually throughout day and night until Monday mor= ning. Your reports - also daylight propagation - are welcome via WSPR databa= se or by e-mail. Thanks a lot.=20 73 Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF ------=_NextPart_000_005B_01C9AFC7.988BEEF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Tnx, Dave, for your effort. Hope the noise=20= will be=20 off. And for Ha-Jo: Tnx for your proposal. Looked in my trash-box=20= and=20 found an "EME 505 Netzfilter".
As my three lamps have one commmon line, it= =20 shouldn`t be too difficult to make a test in that line. Meanwhile -=20 when working on MF - I should use candles :-)
73   Walter
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 dave.riley3
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2009 4:43= =20 PM
Subject: LF: Re: DI2AG WSPR

Hi Walter,
 
I set the RX last night and came back to find=20= high=20 white noise masking ALL EU signals, not a trace of=20 any...
 
Will set the traps tonight=20 again...
 
TNX
 
Dave @ /17
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2009 9:= 38=20 AM
Subject: LF: DI2AG WSPR

Dear All on MF,
     &nbs= p;    DI2AG is still=20 running in WSPR, 0.5W ERP on 505.090KHz. TNX to G0HNW for his numerous=20 reports last night and also to F4DTL and DJ6LB. DI2AG will be transmitti= ng=20 continually throughout day and night until Monday morning. Your reports=20= -=20 also daylight propagation - are welcome via WSPR database or by e-mail.=20 Thanks a lot.
73
Walter DI2AG /=20 DJ2LF
------=_NextPart_000_005B_01C9AFC7.988BEEF0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md07.mx.aol.com (rly-md07.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.145]) by air-md09.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD093-91549d2439033b; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 12:23:55 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md07.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD075-91549d2439033b; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 12:23:47 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LogjN-0001oW-Nr for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 17:22:29 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LogjN-0001oN-74 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 17:22:29 +0100 Received: from mailout05.t-online.de ([194.25.134.82]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LogjL-0004kX-KT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 17:22:29 +0100 Received: from fwd00.aul.t-online.de by mailout05.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 1LogiK-0004Oj-04; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 18:21:24 +0200 Received: from e7010 (rxS26MZFwh6MWpxZBqTHFcE4KnIlBVwhWbvLW9DwSNPcg-HOIgvgyXHHBx2yMN5g68@[84.147.227.225]) by fwd00.aul.t-online.de with smtp id 1Loghv-1eVOLY0; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 18:20:59 +0200 Message-ID: <003701c9b21c$afaf00c0$1402a8c0@e7010> From: "Walter und Marianne Staubach" To: Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 18:21:02 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4927.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 X-ID: rxS26MZFwh6MWpxZBqTHFcE4KnIlBVwhWbvLW9DwSNPcg-HOIgvgyXHHBx2yMN5g68 X-TOI-MSGID: 8e8726bd-ad3f-49e6-9987-08c1cdc07aa2 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001,UPPERCASE_50_75=0.591 Subject: LF: MF beacon DI2AG Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0034_01C9B22D.72FF5BA0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0034_01C9B22D.72FF5BA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear All on MF, I am very glad of the many reports for the beacon transmissions in Ma= rch. Many thanks to SM6BHZ / LA6TPA / G7JVN / G3AQC / G4FDD / DG0OPK / DJ6YD / G0HNW / DK6NI / D= L3NDR / AA1A / DJ6LB / OR7T / G4WGT / SQ7MPJ / LA9BEA / G3XVL / MICHAEL / GM= 4ISM / DD7PC / G0KTN / F4DTL / G4JNT 73 Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF ------=_NextPart_000_0034_01C9B22D.72FF5BA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear All on MF,
       I am v= ery glad=20 of the many reports for the beacon transmissions in March. Many thanks=20 to
SM6BHZ / LA6TPA / G7JVN / G3AQC / G4FDD / D= G0OPK /=20 DJ6YD / G0HNW / DK6NI / DL3NDR / AA1A / DJ6LB / OR7T / G4WGT / SQ7MPJ / LA9B= EA /=20 G3XVL / MICHAEL / GM4ISM / DD7PC / G0KTN / F4DTL / G4JNT
73
Walter  DI2AG / DJ2LF
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0034_01C9B22D.72FF5BA0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc04.mx.aol.com (rly-dc04.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.33]) by air-dc06.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDC061-b1649c27f22158; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 13:22:23 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc04.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC042-b1649c27f22158; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 13:21:39 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LkLvQ-0007w6-11 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 17:21:00 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LkLvP-0007vx-6w for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 17:20:59 +0000 Received: from blu0-omc1-s27.blu0.hotmail.com ([65.55.116.38]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LkLvN-0006FH-Ls for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 17:20:59 +0000 Received: from BLU146-W26 ([65.55.116.7]) by blu0-omc1-s27.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 19 Mar 2009 10:20:51 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [196.40.0.241] From: Laurence BY3A-KL1X China To: , , Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 09:20:51 -0800 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <000901c9a81c$6147b5d0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> References: <000901c9a81c$6147b5d0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Mar 2009 17:20:51.0632 (UTC) FILETIME=[0D88CB00:01C9A8B7] X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_a709cc18-5ad4-4fce-a527-99baa20e0581_" Subject: RE: LF: WE2XGR/2 WSPR X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_40_50, HTML_MESSAGE,LINES_OF_YELLING,LINES_OF_YELLING_2,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_a709cc18-5ad4-4fce-a527-99baa20e0581_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Nice signals Jay, congrats.- my location was EK80 not as uploaded to wspr..o= rg. Best sigs were -11 which were just about audible/readible =20 73 - Laurence ti3/ kl1x =20 Chaps Im sorry but I wont be on tonight - and last night is prob the last ni= ght on here in Ti3 we may get on from Guanacaste in Costa Rica but not sure. =20 Heres the raw data Jay. =20 090319 0048 2 -29 1.3 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 18346 -36 090319 0104 5 -27 1.3 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 7 0 090319 0106 6 -25 1.2 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0108 8 -24 1.3 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0110 9 -23 1.3 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0112 9 -23 1.2 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0114 8 -23 1.2 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0116 6 -24 1.3 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0118 6 -25 1.2 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0122 1 -32 1.3 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 10568 -1 090319 0124 6 -25 1.2 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0126 7 -24 1.2 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0128 6 -26 1.4 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0154 2 -27 1.3 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 79 0 090319 0156 2 -28 1.4 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 8491 0 090319 0204 2 -29 1.2 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 17 0 090319 0206 3 -28 1.2 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 39 0 090319 0208 7 -24 1.1 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0214 6 -26 1.1 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 2 0 090319 0216 1 -30 1.3 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 24 0 090319 0220 3 -28 1.1 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 643 0 090319 0222 4 -28 1.1 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 12 0 090319 0228 6 -26 1.2 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0230 6 -25 1.1 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0232 5 -27 1.2 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0234 8 -24 1.2 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0236 9 -23 1.1 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0238 11 -21 1.0 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0240 9 -23 1.0 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0242 6 -24 1.2 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0244 8 -23 1.2 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0246 11 -21 1.1 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0248 11 -21 1.2 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0250 12 -20 1.1 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0252 16 -16 1.1 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0254 14 -17 1.2 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0256 13 -18 1.2 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0258 13 -19 1.1 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0300 10 -22 1.1 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0302 13 -19 1.0 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0304 10 -22 1.1 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0306 10 -22 1.1 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0308 3 -28 1.2 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0310 5 -26 1.1 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0312 3 -28 1.1 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 19803 -11 090319 0314 5 -26 1.2 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 2 0 090319 0318 7 -25 1.0 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0320 10 -23 1.0 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0322 8 -23 1.2 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0324 11 -21 1.1 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0326 13 -19 1.1 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0328 15 -18 1.1 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0330 14 -18 1.1 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0332 14 -18 1.0 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0334 12 -20 1.0 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0336 14 -18 1.1 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0338 14 -18 1.2 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0340 12 -21 1.1 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0342 15 -17 1.0 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0344 18 -15 1.1 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0346 17 -14 1.1 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0348 21 -11 1.2 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0350 21 -11 1.2 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0352 19 -13 1.2 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0354 16 -17 1.1 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0356 14 -19 1.1 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0358 12 -20 1.0 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0400 6 -25 1.2 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 2 0 090319 0402 12 -18 1.2 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0404 12 -19 1.2 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0406 15 -16 1.2 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0408 11 -20 1.2 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0410 9 -23 1.3 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0412 7 -24 1.2 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0418 6 -25 1.2 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0420 5 -26 1.2 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0422 9 -23 1.2 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0424 7 -24 1.2 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 4 0 090319 0426 13 -19 1.2 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0428 16 -15 1.2 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0430 16 -16 1.3 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0432 14 -17 1.3 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0434 9 -22 1.2 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 0958 10 -23 1.1 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 1000 10 -22 1.0 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 1002 3 -29 1.2 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 9211 -23 090319 1006 8 -23 1.3 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 1008 7 -24 1.2 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 3 0 090319 1016 4 -28 1.2 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 23 0 090319 1018 2 -29 1.2 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 5139 -17 090319 1028 2 -28 1.2 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 5565 0 090319 1034 3 -29 1.2 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 93 0 090319 1036 3 -29 1.2 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 4865 0 090319 1040 4 -28 1.1 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 1 0 090319 1042 2 -30 1.0 0.508520 WE2XGR FN31 57 0 160 0 =20 =20 =20 > From: jrusgrove@comcast.net > To: SHMRG@piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu; rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; lowfer@= mailman.qth.net > Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 18:53:39 -0400 > Subject: LF: WE2XGR/2 WSPR >=20 > WE2XPR/2 will be transmitting in WSPR mode tonight on 508.52 kHz (507.00 d= ial)...trying for copy by=20 > KL1X DXpedition in Costa Rica. >=20 > Reports from other areas are of course appreciated. >=20 > Jat W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2=20 >=20 >=20 _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail=AE is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast.=20 http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=3DTXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_70faster_032009= =3D --_a709cc18-5ad4-4fce-a527-99baa20e0581_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Nice signals Jay, congrats.- my location was EK80 not as uploaded to wspr..o= rg. Best sigs were -11 which were just about audible/readible
 
73 - Laurence ti3/ kl1x
 
Chaps Im sorry but I wont be on tonight - and last night is prob the last ni= ght on here in Ti3 we may get on from Guanacaste in Costa Rica but not sure.=
 
Heres the raw data Jay.
 
090319 0048   2 -29  1.3   0.508520  WE2XGR FN= 31 57          0 18346  -3= 6
090319 0104   5 -27  1.3   0.508520  WE2X= GR FN31 57          0 &nbs= p;   7    0
090319 0106   6 -25 =20= 1.2   0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57     &= nbsp;    0     1    0
0= 90319 0108   8 -24  1.3   0.508520  WE2XGR FN3= 1 57          0  &nbs= p;  1    0
090319 0110   9 -23  1.3&nb= sp;  0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57      &= nbsp;   0     1    0
090319=20= 0112   9 -23  1.2   0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57&n= bsp;         0   &nbs= p; 1    0
090319 0114   8 -23  1.2 &nb= sp; 0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57       &= nbsp;  0     1    0
090319 0116&n= bsp;  6 -24  1.3   0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57 &n= bsp;        0     1&n= bsp;   0
090319 0118   6 -25  1.2   0.= 508520  WE2XGR FN31 57        &= nbsp; 0     1    0
090319 0122 &n= bsp; 1 -32  1.3   0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57  &n= bsp;       0 10568   -1
090319 01= 24   6 -25  1.2   0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57&nbs= p;         0    = 1    0
090319 0126   7 -24  1.2  = ; 0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57       &nb= sp;  0     1    0
090319 0128&nbs= p;  6 -26  1.4   0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57 &nbs= p;        0     1&nbs= p;   0
090319 0154   2 -27  1.3   0.50= 8520  WE2XGR FN31 57        &nb= sp; 0    79    0
090319 0156   2=20= -28  1.4   0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57   &nb= sp;      0  8491    0
090319= 0204   2 -29  1.2   0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57&= nbsp;         0    17=     0
090319 0206   3 -28  1.2  =20= 0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57        = ;  0    39    0
090319 0208  = ; 7 -24  1.1   0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57   = ;       0     1  = ;  0
090319 0214   6 -26  1.1   0.508520&nb= sp; WE2XGR FN31 57          0&n= bsp;    2    0
090319 0216   1 -3= 0  1.3   0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57    = ;      0    24    0090319 0220   3 -28  1.1   0.508520  WE2XGR=20= FN31 57          0  =20= 643    0
090319 0222   4 -28  1.1 &nbs= p; 0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57       &n= bsp;  0    12    0
090319 0228 &n= bsp; 6 -26  1.2   0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57  &n= bsp;       0     1 &n= bsp;  0
090319 0230   6 -25  1.1   0.508520=   WE2XGR FN31 57         =20= 0     1    0
090319 0232   5= -27  1.2   0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57   &n= bsp;      0     1  &n= bsp; 0
090319 0234   8 -24  1.2   0.508520 = WE2XGR FN31 57          0 = ;    1    0
090319 0236   9 -23&n= bsp; 1.1   0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57    &n= bsp;     0     1    0=
090319 0238  11 -21  1.0   0.508520  WE2XGR FN3= 1 57          0  &nbs= p;  1    0
090319 0240   9 -23  1.0&nb= sp;  0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57      &= nbsp;   0     1    0
090319=20= 0242   6 -24  1.2   0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57&n= bsp;         0   &nbs= p; 1    0
090319 0244   8 -23  1.2 &nb= sp; 0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57       &= nbsp;  0     1    0
090319 0246&n= bsp; 11 -21  1.1   0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57  &= nbsp;       0     1 &= nbsp;  0
090319 0248  11 -21  1.2   0.508520&nbs= p; WE2XGR FN31 57          0&nb= sp;    1    0
090319 0250  12 -20 = ; 1.1   0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57     = ;     0     1    0090319 0252  16 -16  1.1   0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 5= 7          0   &= nbsp; 1    0
090319 0254  14 -17  1.2  = ; 0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57       &nb= sp;  0     1    0
090319 0256&nbs= p; 13 -18  1.2   0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57  &nb= sp;       0     1 &nb= sp;  0
090319 0258  13 -19  1.1   0.508520 = WE2XGR FN31 57          0 = ;    1    0
090319 0300  10 -22 =20= 1.1   0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57     &= nbsp;    0     1    0
0= 90319 0302  13 -19  1.0   0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57&= nbsp;         0   &nb= sp; 1    0
090319 0304  10 -22  1.1  =20= 0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57        = ;  0     1    0
090319 0306 = 10 -22  1.1   0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57   = ;       0     1  = ;  0
090319 0308   3 -28  1.2   0.508520&nb= sp; WE2XGR FN31 57          0&n= bsp;    1    0
090319 0310   5 -2= 6  1.1   0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57    = ;      0     1   = ; 0
090319 0312   3 -28  1.1   0.508520  WE= 2XGR FN31 57          0 19803&n= bsp; -11
090319 0314   5 -26  1.2   0.508520&nbs= p; WE2XGR FN31 57          0&nb= sp;    2    0
090319 0318   7 -25=   1.0   0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57    =       0     1   = 0
090319 0320  10 -23  1.0   0.508520  WE2XGR F= N31 57          0  &n= bsp;  1    0
090319 0322   8 -23  1.2&= nbsp;  0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57      = ;    0     1    0
09031= 9 0324  11 -21  1.1   0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57 = ;         0    =20= 1    0
090319 0326  13 -19  1.1   0.50= 8520  WE2XGR FN31 57        &nb= sp; 0     1    0
090319 0328  15=20= -18  1.1   0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57   &nb= sp;      0     1  &nb= sp; 0
090319 0330  14 -18  1.1   0.508520  WE2XG= R FN31 57          0  = ;   1    0
090319 0332  14 -18  1.0&nb= sp;  0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57      &= nbsp;   0     1    0
090319=20= 0334  12 -20  1.0   0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57 &= nbsp;        0     1&= nbsp;   0
090319 0336  14 -18  1.1   0.5085= 20  WE2XGR FN31 57         = ; 0     1    0
090319 0338  14 -1= 8  1.2   0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57    = ;      0     1   = ; 0
090319 0340  12 -21  1.1   0.508520  WE2XGR=20= FN31 57          0  &= nbsp;  1    0
090319 0342  15 -17  1.0 = ;  0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57      &nb= sp;   0     1    0
090319 03= 44  18 -15  1.1   0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57 &nb= sp;        0     1&nb= sp;   0
090319 0346  17 -14  1.1   0.508520=   WE2XGR FN31 57         =20= 0     1    0
090319 0348  21 -11&= nbsp; 1.2   0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57    &= nbsp;     0     1   =20= 0
090319 0350  21 -11  1.2   0.508520  WE2XGR FN= 31 57          0  &nb= sp;  1    0
090319 0352  19 -13  1.2 &= nbsp; 0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57       = ;   0     1    0
090319 0354=   16 -17  1.1   0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57  = ;        0     1 = ;   0
090319 0356  14 -19  1.1   0.508520&n= bsp; WE2XGR FN31 57          0&= nbsp;    1    0
090319 0358  12 -20&nb= sp; 1.0   0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57    &nb= sp;     0     1    0<= BR>090319 0400   6 -25  1.2   0.508520  WE2XGR= FN31 57          0  =    2    0
090319 0402  12 -18  1.2&nbs= p;  0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57      &n= bsp;   0     1    0
090319 0= 404  12 -19  1.2   0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57 &n= bsp;        0     1&n= bsp;   0
090319 0406  15 -16  1.2   0.50852= 0  WE2XGR FN31 57         = 0     1    0
090319 0408  11 -20=   1.2   0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57    =       0     1   = 0
090319 0410   9 -23  1.3   0.508520  WE2= XGR FN31 57          0 &nb= sp;   1    0
090319 0412   7 -24 = 1.2   0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57     =      0     1    0
= 090319 0418   6 -25  1.2   0.508520  WE2XGR FN= 31 57          0  &nb= sp;  1    0
090319 0420   5 -26  1.2&n= bsp;  0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57      =     0     1    0
090319= 0422   9 -23  1.2   0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57&= nbsp;         0   &nb= sp; 1    0
090319 0424   7 -24  1.2 &n= bsp; 0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57       =    0     4    0
090319 0426&= nbsp; 13 -19  1.2   0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57  =         0     1 =    0
090319 0428  16 -15  1.2   0.508520&nb= sp; WE2XGR FN31 57          0&n= bsp;    1    0
090319 0430  16 -16&nbs= p; 1.3   0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57    &nbs= p;     0     1    0090319 0432  14 -17  1.3   0.508520  WE2XGR FN31=20= 57          0   =   1    0
090319 0434   9 -22  1.2 = ;  0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57      &nb= sp;   0     1    0
090319 09= 58  10 -23  1.1   0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57 &nb= sp;        0     1&nb= sp;   0
090319 1000  10 -22  1.0   0.508520=   WE2XGR FN31 57         =20= 0     1    0
090319 1002   3= -29  1.2   0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57   &n= bsp;      0  9211  -23
090319 1006&nbs= p;  8 -23  1.3   0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57 &nbs= p;        0     1&nbs= p;   0
090319 1008   7 -24  1.2   0.50= 8520  WE2XGR FN31 57        &nb= sp; 0     3    0
090319 1016 &nbs= p; 4 -28  1.2   0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57  &nbs= p;       0    23  &nb= sp; 0
090319 1018   2 -29  1.2   0.508520 =20= WE2XGR FN31 57          0 = 5139  -17
090319 1028   2 -28  1.2   0.508= 520  WE2XGR FN31 57        &nbs= p; 0  5565    0
090319 1034   3 -29  1= .2   0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57     &n= bsp;    0    93    0
090319=20= 1036   3 -29  1.2   0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57&n= bsp;         0  4865  = ;  0
090319 1040   4 -28  1.1   0.508520&nb= sp; WE2XGR FN31 57          0&n= bsp;    1    0
090319 1042   2 -3= 0  1.0   0.508520  WE2XGR FN31 57    = ;      0   160    0
 
 

 
> From: jrusgrove@comcast.net
> To: SHMRG@piobaire.mi= nes.uidaho.edu; rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; lowfer@mailman.qth..net
>= ; Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 18:53:39 -0400
> Subject: LF: WE2XGR/2 WSPR>
> WE2XPR/2 will be transmitting in WSPR mode tonight on 508.52= kHz (507.00 dial)...trying for copy by
> KL1X DXpedition in Costa Ri= ca.
>
> Reports from other areas are of course appreciated.
= >
> Jat W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2
>
>

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Find out more. =3D --_a709cc18-5ad4-4fce-a527-99baa20e0581_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md07.mx.aol.com (rly-md07.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.145]) by air-md10.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMD103-91549bed06d367; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 18:20:16 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md07.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD075-91549bed06d367; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 18:19:27 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LjL9W-00076e-8S for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 22:19:22 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LjL9V-00076S-9S for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 22:19:21 +0000 Received: from smtp818.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([77.238.189.18]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LjL9S-0002PK-Hh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 22:19:21 +0000 Received: (qmail 84716 invoked from network); 16 Mar 2009 22:19:12 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=aW+o/BGsCzLe5sF+2Xrvl0Dwr6MxLbT4JghMq+uw3ZmOnWqfqh2mfHjz+cvs87YpgPS+9aGTO5fKlD62ojdB1e7wwQLwdYcjo4YHBiUXe4CrvUdq0DbILImj6loVcx5JNHXhyTqFdrw8Ow/YRC/6sYcFfYjOp6vFdPe/m/EW9BM= ; Received: from unknown (HELO Lark) (alan.melia@213.122.3.124 with login) by smtp818.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Mar 2009 22:19:10 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: e7So_R8VM1kVTmFKtSCmAUjrOPPRdW5cCOvVMVuvWWUxn9A.nWy8isl87hx2tItLs4c0wL.ImIBxhNaFdE5wyPypKszEzEfVnXRwmdHE9U7UlRHG7i_NPsK.b08LayT0kaoMkiae6FPlu8febjrHLRIoHkYoTmh3RFwvLySLDeMfH0yi2lzTX.fDZaPhQXkBd9btUPcSWziyx4Z.L4dHKzBGWA-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <003001c9a685$3ac94560$0900a8c0@AM> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <009001c9a588$7eb02c60$6401a8c0@asus> <00e001c9a5a7$f07216a0$6401a8c0@asus> <826BA6086575402A8C87062492069F5A@AGB> <004501c9a623$a4bf81d0$6401a8c0@asus> <2ED02F4327204E3C903828F9E18AA72B@AGB> <001e01c9a665$ebeac870$6401a8c0@asus> <00be01c9a66e$c8bfdbc0$0900a8c0@AM> <004a01c9a677$2a8b48a0$6401a8c0@asus> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 22:10:20 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Gary I think Andy answered the question. My list downloads are coming in strange orders sometimes. Alan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 8:38 PM Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software > Alan, > > When you wrote :- > my only comment is that you may have too much gain in the system. > > Are you meaning sound card or receiver gain? > > Gary. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Alan Melia > Sent: 16 March 2009 19:38 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software > > Hi Gary my only comment is that you may have too much gain in the system. It > is sometimes better to have the noise further down nearer the axis. > > I am afraid there is a major problem with this kind of beacon, when the > fading period is shorter than the sampling interval, so you dont really know > what the path is doing. The only reliable points are the peaks, the troughs > dont really mean anything without some very sophisticated analysis and > probably two spaced receivers. However it does give a snapshot of the band > without taking up too much bandwidth (this was what was required for 5MHz > too). Despite all the data collected very little analysis has actually be > done on the 5MHz data collected by this program. The one succesfull bit of > work was that published in Radcom by Marcis Walden G0IJZ. I used it for some > time whilst Andy was testing the Poldhu beacon on 160m and also during the > 1st two months that ran. I was certainly surprised by the daytime path on > 160m from here. I have seen the data collected in Canada via Joe Craig VO1NA > and it is difficult to see how to use it. > > Still if you dont collect the data you will never know!! > > Alan G3NYK > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gary - G4WGT" > To: > Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 6:35 PM > Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > Hi Graham, LF, > > > > > > > > The original HTML Code for the 2 minute refresh is still inserted into the > > page format, so upload is 30 minute intervals with Syncback & 2 minute > > refresh. I have left the refresh in case I revert back to the original > > grabber page. I will look at changing it if I continue to use the beacon > > chart upload. > > > > > > > > I would like to have feedback from the LF group regarding the page, if you > > check it out periodically, is it useful to you, what are you looking for. > > > > > > > > You can view the chart on my web site at :- > > > > > > > > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html > > > > > > > > 73 > > > > > > > > Gary - G4WGT. > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham > > Sent: 16 March 2009 17:20 > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > > > > > Hi Gary, > > > > > > > > The page seemed to refresh quite often ... are there two settings ? > > > > > > > > G .. > > > > > > > > From: Gary - G4WGT > > > > Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:40 AM > > > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > > > Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > > > > > Hi Graham, LF, > > > > > > > > You wrote :- > > > > >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute > > intervals. <<< that could be backed off to 15 mins as the beacon only > > sends every 15 ?? > > > > > > > > I mentioned in my previous mail to ignore the text on the page as it was > > originally for grabber 1 for when I upgrade the web site (to a new design > & > > better navigation etc), also mentioned is that upload is every 30 minutes. > > > > > > > > If the uploaded chart proves useful or interesting to operators & viewers > > then I will change the text & make it a permanent feature for the > > foreseeable future. > > > > > > > > BTW :- > > > > > > > > For those of you who are not familiar with the chart - > > > > > > > > The RED trace is Andy's (G4JNT) beacon signal & the BLACK trace is the > noise > > level at my QTH. > > > > > > > > The Blue & GREEN are not in use & should be ignored on this chart as they > > are for the other beacons used when monitoring on the 5MHz allocation. > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > Gary - G4WGT > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham > > Sent: 15 March 2009 22:17 > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > > > > > Gary.. > > > > > > > > That looks good ... 0500 looks best time for a qso .. see you then Smile > > emoticon > > > > > > > > >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute > > intervals. <<< that could be backed off to 15 mins as the beacon only > > sends every 15 ?? > > > > > > > > the 15 db over the noise in day time is the same at this qth .. looks > like > > the big dips round 1900 where just when we where testing .. typical hihi > > > > > > > > tnx- G .. > > > > > > > > From: Gary - G4WGT > > > > Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 7:55 PM > > > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > > > Subject: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > > > > > LF, > > > > > > > > I have now got the software, Syncback running correctly (I think). > > > > > > > > The purpose of this is to upload the chart from Andy's beacon as received > > here to my web site periodically, ie. every 30 minutes. > > > > > > > > I now have a receiver running 24/7 monitoring Andy,s beacon on 503.7KHz. > > > > > > > > You can view the chart on my web site at :- > > > > > > > > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html > > > > > > > > For the moment ignore the text on the page as it is originally designed to > > use with the 500KHz grabber when I renew my web site design. If it is a > > useful upload I will make it a permanent feature but may have to extend > the > > frequency coverage of grabber 1 so not to overload the PC with operations > > which will cause the PC to struggle. > > > > > > > > Let me have your comments please. > > > > > > > > 73 > > > > > > > > Gary - G4WGT. > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT > > Sent: 15 March 2009 16:10 > > To: LF -RSGB LF Group > > Subject: LF: Syncback software > > > > > > > > Hi LF, > > > > > > > > If anyone is using Syncback software & can help, please. > > > > > > > > I am tying to upload a file to my website who's filename does not change, > > only the file size changes. I tried to do it with Argo-upload but failed > so > > I downloaded Syncback & still failing. > > > > > > > > Syncback gives me the following message :- > > > > > > > > ********************************** > > > > Can connect, but unable to change to destination directory: > > > > /chart01.bmp:not a directory > > > > ********************************** > > > > The Syncback help does not give me the answer. > > > > > > > > Any help will be appreciated > > > > > > > > Or > > > > > > > > Will Argo-Upload do it? > > > > > > > > Or > > > > > > > > Is there something else to do it? > > > > > > > > Thanks in anticipation, > > > > > > > > 73, > > > > > > > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.13/2001 - Release Date: 03/14/09 > > 06:54:00 > > > > _____ > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.15/2003 - Release Date: 03/15/09 > > 14:07:00 > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da01.mx.aol.com (rly-da01.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.75]) by air-da02.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA024-a4c49cd12c0396; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 13:54:25 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da01.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA014-a4c49cd12c0396; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 13:54:09 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LnGF3-0005Dg-Cy for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 17:53:17 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LnGF3-0005DX-1L for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 17:53:17 +0000 Received: from mailout01.t-online.de ([194.25.134.80]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LnGF0-0001Uq-BI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 17:53:16 +0000 Received: from fwd09.aul.t-online.de by mailout01.t-online.de with smtp id 1LnGEv-0006CL-04; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 18:53:09 +0100 Received: from e7010 (TFuMOmZfQhUb8aUkJN4Le8SCCJoIir0AXUbcRQSWjBJKuNtVQUYD9DN4fu8tsc+gCa@[84.147.199.114]) by fwd09.aul.t-online.de with smtp id 1LnGEi-0DSqTw0; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 18:52:56 +0100 Message-ID: <000a01c9af04$dbdd8e70$1402a8c0@e7010> From: "Walter und Marianne Staubach" To: Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 18:52:55 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4927.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 X-ID: TFuMOmZfQhUb8aUkJN4Le8SCCJoIir0AXUbcRQSWjBJKuNtVQUYD9DN4fu8tsc+gCa X-TOI-MSGID: 5b29243e-6eb2-4124-8483-b4d431a04530 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: DI2AG WSPR Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C9AF0D.3D67FAB0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C9AF0D.3D67FAB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear All on MF, DI2AG is transmitting in WSPR on 505.090KHz from now to Monday morni= ng 7:00UTC. Duty cycle 33%, power 27dBm ERP. I would be glad to receive your reports, also continues series by daylight p= ropagation, please via WSPR database. 73 Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C9AF0D.3D67FAB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear All on MF,
       =20= DI2AG is=20 transmitting in WSPR on 505.090KHz from now to Monday morning 7:00UTC. Duty=20 cycle 33%, power 27dBm ERP.
I would be glad to receive your reports, al= so=20 continues series by daylight propagation, please via WSPR database.
73
Walter  DI2AG / DJ2LF
 
------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C9AF0D.3D67FAB0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma03.mx.aol.com (rly-ma03.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.47]) by air-ma03.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMA031-89949abf629233; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 10:07:42 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma03.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA033-89949abf629233; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 10:07:24 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Le9jX-0003HJ-Sk for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 15:07:07 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Le9jX-0003HA-HG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 15:07:07 +0000 Received: from mailout10.t-online.de ([194.25.134.21]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Le9jW-0006Lk-UZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 15:07:07 +0000 Received: from fwd01.aul.t-online.de by mailout10.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 1Le9jV-0003cw-03; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:07:05 +0100 Received: from e7010 (EB7IjTZYghisulrOi-9fDojvSthPfJSjc4l2h9SzYtkDEOeikk0UGym7w6UVysdwnN@[84.147.201.14]) by fwd01.aul.t-online.de with smtp id 1Le9iK-0pVe0e0; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 16:05:52 +0100 Message-ID: <001801c99b48$61ac1d30$1402a8c0@e7010> From: "Walter und Marianne Staubach" To: Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 16:05:50 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4927.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 X-ID: EB7IjTZYghisulrOi-9fDojvSthPfJSjc4l2h9SzYtkDEOeikk0UGym7w6UVysdwnN X-TOI-MSGID: 9b2a91db-0614-472b-9e73-5c34acf184f6 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: WSPR-Test Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0015_01C99B50.C173A3C0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C99B50.C173A3C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sorry for two mails with the same contents. German saying: Uebereifer schadet nur. Please excuse Walter DI2AG ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C99B50.C173A3C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Sorry for two mails with the same=20 contents.
German saying: Uebereifer schadet nur.
Please excuse
Walter DI2AG
 
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MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Lazy Man's CW made it to Venus and back Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Wolf, LF Group, Congratulations on an excellent achievement - I expect it has broken a few DX records! I will be interested to hear more about how it was done, when information becomes available. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da06.mx.aol.com (rly-da06.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.80]) by air-da08.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDA083-a7149c2386614a; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 08:19:56 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da06.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA061-a7149c2386614a; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 08:19:52 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LkHDU-0004SN-Le for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 12:19:20 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LkHDU-0004SE-5P for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 12:19:20 +0000 Received: from smtp5-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.5]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LkHDS-00013q-8p for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 12:19:20 +0000 Received: from smtp5-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp5-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E5C5D481FA for ; 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SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) TNX Victor 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj victor13@online.nl a =E9crit : > Hi,Marco,Jean-Pierre,Nicolas, > > good signals in a QRSS60 screen, > > 73 > > Victor > PA3FNY > JO22NC > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf02.mx.aol.com (rly-mf02.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.172]) by air-mf01.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMF012-94549bfe9b12b; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 14:19:45 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf02.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF023-94549bfe9b12b; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 14:19:31 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LjdsU-0004zo-Ev for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; 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charset="us-ascii" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 At 1811z John Rabson F5VLF 58800 Cervon France JN17vg From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh05.mx.aol.com (rly-mh05.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.141]) by air-mh03.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMH034-bd749ce74ee12f; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 15:05:26 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh05.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH057-bd749ce74ee12f; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 15:05:20 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lndp6-0000Bk-Ii for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; 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(v4.0.7) Professional Organization: Ed Lesnichy X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1817902828.20090328220324@dx.ru> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 1.3 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.332 Subject: LF: SO5AS Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------531273C1745AE70" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------------531273C1745AE70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear LF enthusiasts! I have internet now on Machta SO5AS on abt 137.710 in QRSS3 now CQ 73! 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Tue, 03 Mar 2009 06:26:05 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db10.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB106-af049ad13ac14d; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 06:25:40 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LeSk2-0006hi-5e for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 11:24:54 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LeSk1-0006hZ-R5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 11:24:53 +0000 Received: from mua02.mx.cix.co.uk ([212.241.168.151]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LeSk0-00040L-P4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 11:24:53 +0000 X-Envelope-From: tsmithers@cix.co.uk Received: from cix.co.uk (79-76-249-145.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com [79.76.249.145]) by mua02.mx.cix.co.uk (8.13.4/CIX/8.13.6) with SMTP id n23BOnH0025057; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 11:24:50 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 11:24 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) From: tsmithers@cix.co.uk (Trevor Smithers) To: w1tag@charter.net, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, shmrg@piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu CC: tsmithers@cix.co.uk In-Reply-To: <49AC7CD4.8080900@charter.net> Message-Id: X-Ameol-Version: 2.53.2014, Windows 2000 build 2600 (Service Pack 2) X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: Re: LF: WE2XGR/3 WSPR Monday Night X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Would be worth posting all WSPR activity announcements on the wsprnet.org chat page as well. Not only would it increase the awareness of LF activity but might also speed up the inclusion of the LF frequencies on both the "stations active" page and the "propagation map" page which at the moment only cover hf frequencies. 73 to all Trevor G0KTN From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da07.mx.aol.com (rly-da07.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.81]) by air-da05.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDA051-a7c49b3e42721b; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 11:28:55 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da07.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA074-a7c49b3e42721b; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 11:28:43 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LgKvN-0006S1-13 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 15:28:21 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LgKvM-0006Rs-JL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 15:28:20 +0000 Received: from smtp-vbr8.xs4all.nl ([194.109.24.28]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LgKvL-0007Jl-Rx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 15:28:20 +0000 Received: from organisa-c1c456 (ndb.demon.nl [82.161.81.65]) by smtp-vbr8.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n28FSAPP084604 for ; Sun, 8 Mar 2009 16:28:19 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from roelof@ndb.demon.nl) Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2009 15:27:58 -0000 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "Roelof Bakker" MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1794381892.23372.1236524009509.JavaMail.mail@webmail03> Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1794381892.23372.1236524009509.JavaMail.mail@webmail03> User-Agent: Opera Mail/9.63 (Win32) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: energy saving bulbs Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Peter, I have been using these for years now and never encountered a problem. The best way to find out though is just buy one and test it! 73, Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db02.mx.aol.com (rly-db02.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.77]) by air-db05.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDB052-ab049b450b61b6; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 19:12:01 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db02.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB026-ab049b450b61b6; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 19:11:52 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LgS9g-0004JK-AR for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 23:11:36 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LgS9f-0004JB-Ny for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 23:11:35 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.159]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LgS9d-0003zu-Uo for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 23:11:35 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3414.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 6FD8E1C00082 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 2009 00:11:26 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.31.236]) by mwinf3414.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id B05621C00081 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 2009 00:11:23 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20090308231123722.B05621C00081@mwinf3414.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <1A47F6F844B242AFA136436323EBAB2D@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <0566EF6DE20B4249A3E74859BF9BA2C6@AGB> <9C03FBF153AB478A9B0DBC5580CF20D2@AGB> <28FA0F184B25444F8BA2F1EC5FC42C04@AGB> <006101c9a01b$0d14fc10$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <839B448A31F0490FAC0789261C271A6C@AGB> <892948FBAAB84D3C9C48310A7EA05737@p4> In-Reply-To: <892948FBAAB84D3C9C48310A7EA05737@p4> Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 23:11:22 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8064.206 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8064.206 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Ok so who missed this quick qsy ? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002A_01C9A043.329A0F20" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_002A_01C9A043.329A0F20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ok Mark Little odd , sine wave in the bottom left hand looked a bit novel as well hi= =20 G ..=20 From: Mark=20 Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 10:18 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: LF: Re: Ok so who missed this quick qsy ?=20 Graham, Not sure what u are referring to.... =20 The transmission that starts off a little unstable and ends up on 504.5 is S= M6BHZ in WSPR mode. I saw the same start-up frequency drift yesterday too. The signals in-band h= owever.. ??? regards Mark GM4ISM ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Graham=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 9:53 PM Subject: LF: Ok so who missed this quick qsy ?=20 Whilst watching Andys beacon ..... captured this ...=20 Oops a daisy seems to be the appropriate technical expression=20 (the wavy line is feature of the R5003)=20 1800 Hz =3D 504 Khz=20 >>> http://uk500khz.googlegroups.com/web/capt0903082130.jpg <<< http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/ufos-and-things-that-go-beep G ..=20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.9/1989 - Release Date: 03/07/09=20= 18:43:00 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.9/1990 - Release Date: 03/08/09 17= :17:00 ------=_NextPart_000_002A_01C9A043.329A0F20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ok Mark
 
Little odd , sine wave in the bottom left h= and=20 looked a bit novel as well hi
 
G ..

From: Mark
Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 10:18 PM
Subject: LF: Re: Ok so who missed this quick qsy ?=20

Graham,
Not sure what u are referring to.... =20  
The transmission that starts off a little u= nstable=20 and ends up on 504.5 is SM6BHZ in WSPR mode.
I saw the same start-up frequency drift yes= terday=20 too. The signals in-band however.. ???
regards
Mark GM4ISM
----- Original Message -----
Graham
Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 9:53=20 PM
Subject: LF: Ok so who missed this=20= quick=20 qsy ?

Whilst watching Andys beacon ..... captur= ed this=20 ...
 
Oops a daisy seems to  be the=20  appropriate   technical expression
 
(the wavy line is feature of the R5003)=20
 
1800 Hz =3D 504 Khz
 
 
 
G ..


No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG -=20 www.avg.com
Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.9/1989 - Release= =20 Date: 03/07/09 18:43:00


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------=_NextPart_000_002A_01C9A043.329A0F20-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df08.mx.aol.com (rly-df08.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.21]) by air-df02.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDF022-57149cfcf5e352; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 15:43:38 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df08.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF088-57149cfcf5e352; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 15:43:28 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lo0uH-0005AF-Qb for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 20:42:57 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lo0uH-0005A5-Ec for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 20:42:57 +0100 Received: from mailout.toya.net.pl ([217.113.224.27] ident=postfix) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lo0uF-0007xB-2J for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 20:42:57 +0100 Received: from localhost (unknown [192.168.120.26]) by lazir.toya.net.pl (TOYAnet MailServer) with ESMTP id 5A1F08C1E2 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 21:42:23 +0200 (CEST) X-TOYA-AV: AntyVir-Skaner at toya.net.pl Received: from lazir.toya.net.pl ([192.168.120.25]) by localhost (antyvir.toya.net.pl [192.168.120.26]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id I805wRWSuSPH for ; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 21:42:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.11.178.152] (lazir [217.113.224.3]) (Authenticated sender: unimlyn) by lazir.toya.net.pl (TOYAnet MailServer) with ESMTP id 03E0D8C198 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 21:42:22 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <49CFCF1E.8040702@toya.net.pl> Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 21:42:22 +0200 From: =?UTF-8?B?UGlvdHIgTcWCeW5hcnNraQ==?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000501c9b09e$561f8f40$0b01a8c0@weazle> In-Reply-To: <000501c9b09e$561f8f40$0b01a8c0@weazle> X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: OT-Frequency question Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) J. B. Weazle McCreath wrote: >Hello LFers, > >Do any of you happen to know if the British Coast Guard does >any weather or marine safety broadcasts using HF SITOR? >If so, can you give me some frequencies or point me to a >source of such information. Thanks in advance. > >73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL >Solar and wind powered >Lowfer " EAR" 188.830 >EN93dr > >http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle > > > > > hello J.B. maybe it will not provide the entire help you wanted but as i read in the 18th edition of Klingenfuss "2000 (year) guide to utility radio stations" the United Kingdom Coast Guard (UKCG) was using the following qrg's: (all in kiloHertz) UKCG Aberdeen 2226,2596,2691 .... Clyde 1883 ... Falmouth 2226,2670 Holyhead 1880 Humber 2226 Milford Haven 1767 Shetland 1770 Solent 1641, 2596 Stornoway 1743 Tyne Tees 2719 Yarmouth 1869,2596 73, peter, sq7mpj qth: lodz,poland/jo91rs/ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma05.mx.aol.com (rly-ma05.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.49]) by air-ma03.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMA031-8a749bfece92f0; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 14:33:20 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma05.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA051-8a749bfece92f0; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 14:33:16 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lje5s-00059o-2k for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 18:32:52 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lje5r-00059f-LB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 18:32:51 +0000 Received: from blu0-omc2-s7.blu0.hotmail.com ([65.55.111.82]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lje5p-0001lb-6k for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 18:32:51 +0000 Received: from BLU146-W5 ([65.55.111.72]) by blu0-omc2-s7.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 17 Mar 2009 11:32:40 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [196.40.0.241] From: Laurence BY3A-KL1X China To: , Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 10:32:40 -0800 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Mar 2009 18:32:40.0844 (UTC) FILETIME=[C132DCC0:01C9A72E] X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_405e07a6-548d-4031-a431-d8d16fe0857e_" Subject: LF: One more night X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_405e07a6-548d-4031-a431-d8d16fe0857e_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 Ill run again on 137.775/781 dot 60 slow from EK80. It is very noisy but loo= ks like we had some success last night. The grabber appears to run http://kl= 1x.com/dx00000.jpg. =20 Ill move tomorrow to 500Khz region =20 Laurence TI3/KL1X _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live=99 Groups: Create an online spot for your favorite groups to me= et. http://windowslive.com/online/groups?ocid=3DTXT_TAGLM_WL_groups_032009=3D --_405e07a6-548d-4031-a431-d8d16fe0857e_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable  
Ill run again on 137.775/781 dot 60 slow from EK80. It is very noisy but loo= ks like we had some success last night. The grabber appears to run http://kl1x.com/dx00000.jpg.
 
Ill move tomorrow to 500Khz region
 
Laurence TI3/KL1X

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Check it out. =3D --_405e07a6-548d-4031-a431-d8d16fe0857e_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md02.mx.aol.com (rly-md02.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.140]) by air-md09.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMD093-8ef49aa59f54; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 04:48:56 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md02.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD027-8ef49aa59f54; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 04:48:39 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LdiHi-0008Cd-Co for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 09:48:34 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LdiHi-0008CT-0e for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 09:48:34 +0000 Received: from mx3.mail.ru ([94.100.176.17]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LdiHh-0007yI-3M for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 09:48:33 +0000 Received: from [79.98.8.6] (port=2737 helo=EFREMOV) by mx3.mail.ru with asmtp id 1LdiHb-000Pih-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 12:48:27 +0300 X-Nat-Received: 172.16.10.160 Message-ID: <002601c99a52$ddafede0$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> From: "Andrey rn3agc" To: References: Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 09:47:44 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: Ok X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: AGC YO 28-02.jpg Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Thanks Henny! 73 Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV > Captur AGC YO > Henny pa3cpm > 73s > Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: > AGC YO 28-02.jpg > > Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde > bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden > afgehandeld. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc07.mx.aol.com (rly-dc07.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.36]) by air-dc08.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDC082-b2d49b25b5028c; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 06:32:36 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc07.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC071-b2d49b25b5028c; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 06:32:35 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LfulR-0003GY-M2 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 11:32:21 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LfulR-0003GP-9i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 11:32:21 +0000 Received: from vms173019pub.verizon.net ([206.46.173.19]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LfulP-00055V-SL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 11:32:21 +0000 Received: from DR2 ([71.184.212.10]) by vms173019.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KG4004MOW1IMXSY@vms173019.mailsrvcs.net> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 05:32:07 -0600 (CST) Message-id: <2A3326C8358D483CB97E5776EA0833A7@DR2> From: "dave.riley3" To: , Cc: "600MRG" References: <000e01c99f02$f6f67df0$41b2fea9@W1KW> Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2009 06:32:05 -0500 MIME-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Looking for HF to LF-Transverter, ... ? Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Marco, Indeed the little transverter did well 15 years ago on LowFer frequencies with some help from external L/C selective circuits... I used it with the TS930 and believe that it is still running well... Now life is easier and you can plug and play with some off the shelf items or from e-bay. Here is complete transverter that works: http://www.radiocom.net/600M/TxVerter2.jpg Or only use one side for TX or RX http://www.radiocom.net/600M/TXconverter.jpg Good luck with this fun project. It is the one I use now... TNX Dave - AA1A ----- Original Message ----- From: "Holger 'Geri', DK8KW" To: Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 3:59 AM Subject: LF: Re: Looking for HF to LF-Transverter, ... ? > Marco, > > have a look here: > > http://www.radiocom.net/txvr.jpg > > I haven't tried it myself but it looks simple enough to give it a try. > > 73 > > Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO (currently on 440.015 kHz, tnx for the reception > reports) > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Scholz, Marco " > To: > Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 9:55 PM > Subject: LF: Looking for HF to LF-Transverter, ... ? > > > Dear LF-Group, > sorry for bandwidth, i looking for some sort of of mixer/transverter to > use a shortwave transceiver on 137KHz for WSPR. Can be in experimental > stage, but i need something to start. To build something from scratch is > a bit a challenge for me, so i thought i ask around. Maybe someone has > to sell some parts? > If yes, please send me a mail to dd7pc@gmx.de > > Many thanks, vy73 > Marco > DD7PC > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da03.mx.aol.com (rly-da03.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.77]) by air-da05.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDA053-a5b49aeab0a49; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 11:23:43 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da03.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA033-a5b49aeab0a49; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 11:23:42 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Letsd-0006YX-HX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 16:23:35 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Letsd-0006YO-5H for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 16:23:35 +0000 Received: from mx38.mail.ru ([94.100.176.52]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Letsb-0006zQ-UN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 16:23:35 +0000 Received: from [79.98.8.6] (port=16964 helo=EFREMOV) by mx38.mail.ru with asmtp id 1LetsV-000JMa-01 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 19:23:27 +0300 X-Nat-Received: 172.16.10.160 Message-ID: <002001c99ce5$8b5b9a90$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> From: "Andrey rn3agc" To: References: <000a01c99a91$a54a1180$1402a8c0@e7010><20090301205328.1s1wth6swu0w80c4@webmail4.kuleuven.be> <20090301205958.za3harvgnsowkw8w@webmail4.kuleuven.be> <49AAF55A.8070106@toya.net.pl> <49ABA94B.9040106@mbsks.franken.de> <004401c99b78$02cb52b0$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 16:20:05 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: Ok X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: OK0EMW audible Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-2"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hello Lubos, LF, Last night beacon OK0EMW also was audible. 73 Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV > Hello Andrey, LF! > That´s fine, 549 is good report for my 1W ERP. Thank you for your report! > > Sposiba i 73! > > Lubos, OK2BVG > > *********************************** >> >> From: rn3agc@mail.ru >> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 20:46:33 +0000 >> Subject: LF: OK0EMW audible >> >> Hello Lubos, LF, >> OK0EMW this evening audible in Moscow, 549. >> >> 73 >> Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV >> > > > > Stáhněte si zcela nový Messenger 2009! Klikni zde! From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc01.mx.aol.com (rly-dc01.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.30]) by air-dc09.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC094-b0249cfc1c3108; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 14:45:45 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc01.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC016-b0249cfc1c3108; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 14:45:25 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lnzzk-0004YD-I1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 19:44:32 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lnzzk-0004Y4-3Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 19:44:32 +0100 Received: from fish2.hurontel.on.ca ([216.46.129.163]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lnzzh-0002vT-P2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 19:44:32 +0100 Received: from weazle (pppoe.dyn-216.46.157.246.hurontel.on.ca [216.46.157.246]) by fish2.hurontel.on.ca (Spam Firewall) with SMTP id 15CCD842012 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 14:44:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from weazle (pppoe.dyn-216.46.157.246.hurontel.on.ca [216.46.157.246]) by fish2.hurontel.on.ca with SMTP id Ox4A0aGUcbw9zumN for ; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 14:44:05 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <000501c9b09e$561f8f40$0b01a8c0@weazle> From: "J. B. Weazle McCreath" To: Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 19:44:02 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: OT-Frequency question Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hello LFers, Do any of you happen to know if the British Coast Guard does any weather or marine safety broadcasts using HF SITOR? If so, can you give me some frequencies or point me to a source of such information. Thanks in advance. 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL Solar and wind powered Lowfer " EAR" 188.830 EN93dr http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de11.mx.aol.com (rly-de11.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.147]) by air-de05.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDE054-51749be397f2cc; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 07:35:30 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de11.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE118-51749be397f2cc; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 07:35:28 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LjB68-0003o3-HQ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 11:35:12 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LjB68-0003nu-5O for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 11:35:12 +0000 Received: from vms173003pub.verizon.net ([206.46.173.3]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LjB63-0003RO-9N for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 11:35:12 +0000 Received: from DR2 ([71.184.212.10]) by vms173003.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KGL003YIK5OGV4D@vms173003.mailsrvcs.net> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 06:34:36 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <05E5B239E70F4A94A4FB69BB7361F196@DR2> From: "dave.riley3" To: References: <200903141634.37933.ve8rt@xplornet.com> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 06:34:34 -0500 MIME-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36 Subject: LF: Re: Getting started, maybe Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Ron, An E-Probe is quite small and does wonders under certain conditions... It is also most portable, so that is a plus... Back in the lowfer days I used one for best DX, especially when out of near field E noises and more so when placed against a tall tree... Here is some info: http://www.radiopassioni.it/pdf/pa0rdt-Mini-Whip.PDF http://www.arrl.org/tis/info/pdf/0109031.pdf Just keep the probe as far away as possible from the house mains neutral which carries all manner of RF to the antenna where you will re-hear it... Remote, battery operated with decoupled coax served best here... A gel-cell will last for months... Good Luck Dave @ WD2XSH/17 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Thompson" To: "blacksheep" Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 5:34 PM Subject: LF: Getting started, maybe > I've been reading the occasional posting to the list, wondering if I > could > find some time and money to work with. As we do not yet have licences for > the 500KHz band, the best place to start would be setting up for > receiving. > > From my location is it likely that I could receive any amateur stations > on > 600 metres? Any recommendations for a relatively compact antenna? I do > have > a reasonably good receiver that covers the band, a Ten Tec SP-325 (crystal > oven oscillators). > -- > Ron Thompson, VE8RT > Yellowknife, NT, Canada > 62 28.060 N 114 20.648 W Grid Square DP22tl > "Who are are these that fly as a cloud, and as doves to their window?" Is > 60:8 > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df03.mx.aol.com (rly-df03.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.16]) by air-df05.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDF053-53a49d2856c399; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 17:05:15 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df03.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF033-53a49d2856c399; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 17:04:47 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lol80-0002qf-HO for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 22:04:12 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lol80-0002qW-4I for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 22:04:12 +0100 Received: from fwx.uvtc.net ([195.22.25.2] helo=uvtcmail.se) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lol7y-0006SG-8W for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 22:04:12 +0100 thread-index: AcmyRCw+Ue7d//+RRh+Sn9hoechuEA== X-MEFilter-Version: 6.5.0 Received: from radiorummet ([87.227.51.55]) by uvtcmail.se with MailEnable ESMTP; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 22:03:41 +0100 Message-ID: From: "Gus" To: References: In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 23:03:39 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.4325 Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message Importance: normal X-ME-Bayesian: 0.000000 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_FONT_BIG=0.256,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Beacons Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01C9B254.EDCF69C0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_FONT_BIG, HTML_MESSAGE,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C9B254.EDCF69C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dave and LF, I run WSPR beacon this evening Dial 505.5 Tx freq 507.0 73 de Gus SM6BHZ ----- Original Message -----=20 From: dave.riley3=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 10:07 PM Subject: LF: Beacons Any 600M beacons or sigs from EU tonight?? 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Dave and LF,
 
I run WSPR beacon this evening Dial 505.5 Tx= freq=20 507.0
 
73 de Gus SM6BHZ
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 10:07= =20 PM
Subject: LF: Beacons

Any 600M beacons or sigs from EU=20 tonight??
 
 
TNX
 
Dave @ WD2XSH/17
 
 
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rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf02.mx.aol.com (rly-mf02.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.172]) by air-mf03.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMF032-94449cde2db1fd; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 04:42:11 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf02.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF022-94449cde2db1fd; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 04:42:05 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LnU68-0003Dn-WD for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 08:41:00 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LnU68-0003De-IL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 08:41:00 +0000 Received: from imo-m25.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.6] helo=imo-m25.mail.aol.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LnU66-0006ux-DU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 08:41:00 +0000 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-m25.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id l.c24.59af079b (37518) for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 04:41:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Silver (g229123176.adsl.alicedsl.de [92.229.123.176]) by cia-ma08.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMA083-928e49cde28950; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 04:40:48 -0400 Message-ID: <02803F019014433F8238BE62E2FC3BAD@Silver> From: "Markus Vester" To: References: <8bf118410903270647t5ebb0cedi82b96e2ea73075bd@mail.gmail.com> <20090327162720.6et0xg2farr40g0c@webmail4.kuleuven.be> Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 08:40:39 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Miles per Watt? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0003_01C9AF80.DFA1D710" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.4 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C9AF80.DFA1D710 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Gentlemen, sorry, but in my humble opinion a figure like "miles per watt" just doesn't=20= make any sense. Fieldstrength goes with the square root of power, but decays at least propor= tional to inverse distance. Anyone could claim 1000 lightyears (1E16 km !) p= er watt, simply by feeding -165 dBm into a pair of 144 MHz dipoles spaced by= 0.3 m and a QRSS3 receiver. A more appropiate figure would be km/sqrt(watt). Best regards, Markus (DF6NM) ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Rik Strobbe=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 3:27 PM Subject: Re: LF: Lazy Man's CW made it to Venus and back Dave, If I got it right their ran 5kW into a 20m dish at 2.4GHz. The dish gain should be about 50dBd. 50dB =3D 100000 times power gain, thus ERP =3D +/- 500MW The distance to Venus (today) is 0.281 AU =3D 42 milion km =3D 26.1 milion= miles Total distance is 82 milion km / 52.2 milion miles, what makes it +/- 0.1=20= miles per Watt. That value is not spectacular at all, but take into account that Venus is=20= a pretty bad reflector and the signal has to go twice trough the atmoshpere=20= and ionospere. 73, Rik ON7YD Quoting Dave Pick : > How many miles per Watt is that?!! > > Dave 'YXM ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C9AF80.DFA1D710 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Gentlemen,
 
sorry, but in my humble opinion a figure&nb= sp;like=20 "miles per watt" just doesn't make any sense.
 
Fieldstrength goes with the square roo= t of=20 power, but decays at least proportional to inverse distance.=20 Anyone could claim 1000 lightyears (= 1E16 km=20 !) per watt, simply by feeding -165 dBm into a pair of 144 MHz=20 dipoles spaced by 0.3 m and a QRSS3 receiver.
 
A more appropiate figure would be=20 km/sqrt(watt).
 
Best regards,
Markus (DF6NM)
 
----- Original Message -----
Rik Strobbe
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 3:27=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Lazy Man's CW made= it to=20 Venus and back

Dave,

If I got it= right=20 their ran 5kW into a 20m dish at 2.4GHz.
The dish gain should be about=20 50dBd.
50dB =3D 100000 times power gain, thus ERP =3D +/- 500MW
The=20= distance=20 to Venus (today) is 0.281 AU =3D 42 milion km =3D 26.1 milion miles
Tot= al=20 distance is 82 milion km / 52.2 milion miles, what makes it +/- 0.1 m= iles=20 per Watt.
That value is not spectacular at all, but take into account t= hat=20 Venus is a pretty bad reflector and the signal has to go twice trough= =20 the atmoshpere and ionospere.

73, Rik  ON7YD

Quoti= ng=20 Dave Pick <daveyxm@google= mail.com>:

>=20 How many miles per Watt is that?!!
>
> Dave=20 'YXM
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Warren Andre Kesteloot N1CK (?) might be be a good start. I think Andre moved one to the AMRAD Part 5 frequency. I have aa feeling that there is a web site with information on too ....may a PA0 cal ?? Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Warren Ziegler" To: "rsgb_lf_group" Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 4:51 PM Subject: LF: Ropex Info? > Hello the list, > > I have just acquired a Ropex "The First" transmitter for 136kHz - > but without documentation of any kind. > I know that Ropex did not supply anything more than a single sheet of > instructions but I'm lacking even that. > Questions: > 1) Anyone have a copy of the instruction sheet that they could copy or scan? > 2) Any info on mods (injecting an external vfo for example)? > 3) Anybody do any 'reverse engineering' of the circuit? > > Any info at all is much appreciated! > > -- > 73 Warren K2ORS > WD2XGJ > WD2XSH/23 > WE2XEB/2 > WE2XGR/1 > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db07.mx.aol.com (rly-db07.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.82]) by air-db02.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB022-ada49c4a51c3cc; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 04:28:20 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db07.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB078-ada49c4a51c3cc; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 04:28:15 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LkwYR-0000P3-Sv for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 08:27:43 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LkwYR-0000Ou-Bf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 08:27:43 +0000 Received: from smtp2-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.2]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LkwYM-0008OD-UH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 08:27:43 +0000 Received: from smtp2-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp2-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45DB64B011B for ; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 09:27:05 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp2-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3054B4B014E for ; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 09:27:03 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <49C4A4D6.4080705@online.fr> Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 09:27:02 +0100 From: =?windows-1252?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <49C412DA.50906@online.fr> In-Reply-To: <49C412DA.50906@online.fr> X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: AFJ 's Grabber closed ! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello LF , The grabber will be closed for a few times, two reasons with that : 1/ by carrying out my tests of TXing I =93killed=94 my preamplifier of the=20 K9AY , 2/ I leave in the south for two weeks , I will see all that on my return ! 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg09.mx.aol.com (rly-mg09.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.115]) by air-mg08.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMG083-a3649c0065211c; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 16:22:10 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg09.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG098-a3649c0065211c; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 16:21:39 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ljfmu-0006Zq-VJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 20:21:24 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ljfmu-0006Zh-5I for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 20:21:24 +0000 Received: from mail-bw0-f171.google.com ([209.85.218.171]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ljfmq-0004vF-SY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 20:21:24 +0000 Received: by bwz19 with SMTP id 19so264327bwz.4 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 13:21:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :x-goomoji-body:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=eSLGzKu6I7Nm79D4KNCT9c2Aa/ilcyvC5OV/u5SUY7o=; b=TWP0ZFmZGwEsssb/azXksea9Avj+5GLhcn6kzzO280EeEoc8k1FAZTTmZ6re9s/IRQ n7u5VX2Ks3BjtnP0oXpImrLca/g/nOhdeUYGOQapc/sx2HDFsLkUWQzMUhED3k/PvWwB jYz0UvJ1FY6BO89L1ZX3tfwVvJbuKXBIW+HEs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:x-goomoji-body:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=BkDFZOeQyBkq1p5YtO385/UMEi8iOwqIrGYCcfteHQJO+kHjis4aBJUTPFmIM3SQFv qwZ7xRoOfcYbjAnx2j1cxgOgKIO8ju9TRx7r5EIetvUpdbllDnyOpxAGmqh8L2QTTu1P +r52qcO9RQZkLWf0jqwdS69+bI+jFkCv2TXsQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.115.135 with SMTP id i7mr117575bkq.178.1237321274785; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 13:21:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <005501c9a73b$dd0b8ac0$6401a8c0@asus> References: <005501c9a73b$dd0b8ac0$6401a8c0@asus> X-Goomoji-Body: true Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 20:21:14 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: RE: Who's playing on 503.7 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary=0016e6d646880e7fd00465564fb9 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d233.1 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --0016e6d646880e7fd00465564fb9 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d646880e7fcc0465564fb8 --0016e6d646880e7fcc0465564fb8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I filled in a couple at 1800, deliberately, by flicking the test switch on my beacon Tx. But there are too many peaks on the green annd blue traces to not suspect someone else is firing up a Tx. Its not a case of false decodes - there's not such thing as a 'decode' with this monitoring S/W. All it does is to measure the signal power over precisely this time slot, using a synchronised FFT with a bin size of 0.2Hz, which after windowing gives about 0.4Hz noise bandwidth. So any QRM would have to be quite strong to make a significant impact, and persist over 5 seconds. Short spikes get averaged out to not-a-lot. Did the messages about the modified beacon timing software get though this reflector - don't appear to see them in the in box? If not, http://www.g4jnt.com/beacons.htm at the bottom look for PCBCN Directly, http://www.g4jnt.com/PCBCN.zip Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/3/17 Gary - G4WGT > *Hi Andy, LF,* > > * * > > *I have not detected anything here other than your Tx.* > > * * > > *I was going to e-mail anyway because I have some false decodes on the 5 & > 6 minute slots, see list below. These coincide with high bursts of noise > which I experience here from time to time. Is there an issue with the deco= de > software being =93foxed=94 by high noise level?* > > * * > > *Gary =96 G4WGT.* > > * * > > *15:45 40.35 25.76 -240.0 0.0* > > *15:46 41.05 25.76 -240.0 1499.5* > > *15:47 39.52 25.76 -240.0 0.0* > > *16:00 41.70 25.75 -240.0 1499.5* > > *16:01 41.62 25.75 -240.0 1510.6* > > *16:02 31.49 25.75 -240.0 0.0* > > *16:15 40.10 25.47 -240.0 0.0* > > *16:16 30.16 25.47 -240.0 0.0* > > *16:17 29.17 25.47 -240.0 0.0* > > *16:30 37.85 28.93 -240.0 0.0* > > *16:31 41.80 28.93 -240.0 0.0* > > *16:32 36.23 28.93 -240.0 0.0* > > *16:45 40.98 25.80 -240.0 1499.6* > > *16:46 29.45 25.80 -240.0 0.0* > > *16:47 30.17 25.80 -240.0 0.0* > > *17:00 35.23 25.58 -240.0 0.0* > > *17:01 28.35 25.58 -240.0 0.0* > > *17:02 35.28 25.58 -240.0 0.0* > > *17:15 45.32 25.10 -240.0 1499.4* > > *17:16 30.14 25.10 -240.0 0.0* > > *17:17 27.57 25.10 -240.0 0.0* > > *17:30 51.09 25.30 -240.0 1499.5* > > *17:31 53.16 25.30 -240.0 1499.6* > > *17:32 30.18 25.30 -240.0 0.0* > > *17:45 47.93 25.21 -240.0 1499.5* > > *17:46 48.63 25.21 -240.0 1499.5* > > *17:47 49.12 25.21 -240.0 1499.5* > > *18:00 38.75 34.29 -240.0 0.0* > > *18:01 32.01 34.29 -240.0 0.0* > > *18:02 28.89 34.29 -240.0 0.0* > > *18:15 51.36 26.01 -240.0 1499.6* > > *18:16 38.85 26.01 -240.0 0.0* > > *18:17 40.74 26.01 -240.0 0.0* > > *18:30 43.06 24.96 -240.0 1499.5* > > *18:31 29.24 24.96 -240.0 0.0* > > *18:32 29.61 24.96 -240.0 0.0* > > *18:45 36.98 26.26 -240.0 0.0* > > *18:46 34.87 26.26 -240.0 0.0* > > *18:47 36.14 26.26 -240.0 0.0* > > *19:00 50.09 26.57 -240.0 1499.7* > > *19:01 42.04 26.57 -240.0 1518.0* > > *19:02 28.58 26.57 -240.0 0.0* > > * * > > * * > > * * > ------------------------------ > > *From:* owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto: > owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] *On Behalf Of *Andy Talbot > *Sent:* 17 March 2009 19:48 > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > *Subject:* LF: Who's playing on 503.7 > > > > OK, Who is it? [?] > > We can see you > > There's activity in the 5 and 6 minutes slots. > > > > > > > Andy G4JNT > www.g4jnt.com > --0016e6d646880e7fcc0465564fb8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I filled in a couple at 1800, deliberately, by flicking the test switch= on my beacon Tx.=A0=A0=A0But there are too many peaks on the green annd blu= e traces=A0to not suspect someone else is firing up a Tx.
=A0
Its not a case of false decodes - there's not such thing as a '= decode' with this monitoring S/W.=A0=A0 All it does is to measure=A0the=20= signal power over precisely =A0this time slot, using=A0a synchronised FFT wi= th a=A0bin size of 0.2Hz,=A0which after windowing gives=A0about 0.4Hz noise=20= bandwidth.=A0 So any QRM would have to be quite strong to make a significant= impact, and persist over 5 seconds.=A0=A0 Short spikes get=A0 averaged out=20= to not-a-lot.
=A0
Did the messages about the modified beacon timing software get though t= his reflector - don't appear to see them in the in box?
=A0
If not,=A0 http://www.g4jn= t.com/beacons.htm=A0at the bottom look for PCBCN
=A0

Andy =A0G4JNT
www= .g4jnt.com


2009/3/17 Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>

Hi Andy, LF,

=A0

I have not dete= cted anything here other than your Tx.

=A0

I was going to=20= e-mail anyway because I have some false decodes on the 5 & 6 minute slot= s, see list below. These coincide with high bursts of noise which I experien= ce here from time to time. Is there an issue with the decode software being=20= =93foxed=94 by high noise level?

=A0

Gary =96 G4WGT.=

=A0

15:45=A0 40.35= =A0 25.76=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

15:46=A0 41.05= =A0 25.76=A0 -240.0=A0 1499.5

15:47=A0 39.52= =A0 25.76=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

16:00=A0 41.70= =A0 25.75=A0 -240.0=A0 1499.5

16:01=A0 41.62= =A0 25.75=A0 -240.0=A0 1510.6

16:02=A0 31.49= =A0 25.75=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

16:15=A0 40.10= =A0 25.47=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

16:16=A0 30.16= =A0 25.47=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

16:17=A0 29.17= =A0 25.47=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

16:30=A0 37.85= =A0 28.93=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

16:31=A0 41.80= =A0 28.93=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

16:32=A0 36.23= =A0 28.93=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

16:45=A0 40.98= =A0 25.80=A0 -240.0=A0 1499.6

16:46=A0 29.45= =A0 25.80=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

16:47=A0 30.17= =A0 25.80=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

17:00=A0 35.23= =A0 25.58=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

17:01=A0 28.35= =A0 25.58=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

17:02=A0 35.28= =A0 25.58=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

17:15=A0 45.32= =A0 25.10=A0 -240.0=A0 1499.4

17:16=A0 30.14= =A0 25.10=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

17:17=A0 27.57= =A0 25.10=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

17:30=A0 51.09= =A0 25.30=A0 -240.0=A0 1499.5

17:31=A0 53.16= =A0 25.30=A0 -240.0=A0 1499.6

17:32=A0 30.18= =A0 25.30=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

17:45=A0 47.93= =A0 25.21=A0 -240.0=A0 1499.5

17:46=A0 48.63= =A0 25.21=A0 -240.0=A0 1499.5

17:47=A0 49.12= =A0 25.21=A0 -240.0=A0 1499.5

18:00=A0 38.75= =A0 34.29=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

18:01=A0 32.01= =A0 34.29=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

18:02=A0 28.89= =A0 34.29=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

18:15=A0 51.36= =A0 26.01=A0 -240.0=A0 1499.6

18:16=A0 38.85= =A0 26.01=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

18:17=A0 40.74= =A0 26.01=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

18:30=A0 43.06= =A0 24.96=A0 -240.0=A0 1499.5

18:31=A0 29.24= =A0 24.96=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

18:32=A0 29.61= =A0 24.96=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

18:45=A0 36.98= =A0 26.26=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

18:46=A0 34.87= =A0 26.26=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

18:47=A0 36.14= =A0 26.26=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

19:00=A0 50.09= =A0 26.57=A0 -240.0=A0 1499.7

19:01=A0 42.04= =A0 26.57=A0 -240.0=A0 1518.0

19:02=A0 28.58= =A0 26.57=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

=A0

=A0

=A0

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_= lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf=20= Of Andy Talbot
Sent: 17 March 2009 19:48To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<= br> Subject: LF: Who's playi= ng on 503.7

=A0

OK, Who is it?

We can see you

There's activity in the=A05 and 6 minutes slots.

=A0

=A0


Andy =A0G4JNT
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--0016e6d646880e7fcc0465564fb8-- --0016e6d646880e7fd00465564fb9 Content-Type: image/gif; name="360.gif" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 X-Attachment-Id: 360@goomoji.gmail Content-ID: <360@goomoji.gmail> R0lGODlhDAAPAKIFAJh3AP/zxAAAANyuAP/gaP///wAAAAAAACH/C05FVFNDQVBFMi4wAwEA AAAh+QQJAAAFACwAAAAADAAPAAADLVi63P6wjEmrDDjrGYj/H0cIIElwpJmeQweC4hu2BGDf nnjjrLvPLtlJUikWEgAh+QQJAAAFACwAAAAADAAPAAADLVi63M4jyllGuDjHQLr3GyF8I7GN JWpaXxu2IAvMdBfS9coReLzDpspk+HAkAAAh+QQJCgAFACwAAAAADAAPAAADLVi6vPMwlhGq vS+QzXkmQhcSWTiaJNWt3+qpQCxvnzynGmG/uUtOkWBjSCQmAAAh+QQJFAAFACwAAAAADAAP AAADLViz3BowyhWIvZcSgTmhnBd+Q4Vh2pmVBOC+lvbCpDmvpvopTV/8wKBwSCwWEgAh+QQJ CgAFACwAAAAADAAPAAADLVi6vPMwlhGqvS+QzXkmQhcSWTiaJNWt3+qpQCxvnzynGmG/uUtO kWBjSCQmAAAh+QQFAAAFACwAAAAADAAPAAADLVi63M4jyllGuDjHQLr3GyF8I7GNJWpaXxu2 IAvMdBfS9coReLzDpspk+HAkAAA7 --0016e6d646880e7fd00465564fb9-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me09.mx.aol.com (rly-me09.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.43]) by air-me02.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINME022-9dc49c16660119; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 17:23:49 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me09.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME098-9dc49c16660119; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 17:23:46 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lk3Ek-0003nO-J2 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:23:42 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lk3Ek-0003nF-8H for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:23:42 +0000 Received: from smtp2-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.2]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lk3Ei-0001WG-BS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:23:42 +0000 Received: from smtp2-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp2-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id C24224B0113 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 22:23:37 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp2-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id A212B4B0072 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 22:23:34 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <49C16656.3080501@online.fr> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 22:23:34 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <34B7292B959A41D6B088E9F984F39E73@ns94d01ae4d850> In-Reply-To: <34B7292B959A41D6B088E9F984F39E73@ns94d01ae4d850> X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: TEST AFJ 18-03.jpg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Henny , Thank you , good capture ! 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj henny van elst a =E9crit : > Hi Jean-piere,lf > nice capture > Henny pa3cpm. > Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzond= en: > test afj 18-03.jpg > > Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen=20= het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controlee= r de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen w= orden afgehandeld. > > =20 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf01.mx.aol.com (rly-mf01.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.171]) by air-mf04.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMF043-93c49abd447ea; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 07:43:04 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf01.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF012-93c49abd447ea; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 07:42:49 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Le7TG-0001oD-CO for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 12:42:10 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Le7TF-0001o4-Uo for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 12:42:09 +0000 Received: from imo-d21.mx.aol.com ([205.188.144.207]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Le7TD-0005WG-JT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 12:42:09 +0000 Received: from F4DTL@aol.com by imo-d21.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id l.c5b.3e96cc4a (14502) for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 07:41:59 -0500 (EST) From: F4DTL@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 07:41:59 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5029 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 1.7 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: LF: WE2XGR/3 W1TAG WSPR Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1235997719" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.4 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_MESSAGE,LINES_OF_YELLING,NO_REAL_NAME,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 -------------------------------1235997719 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP RX : Icom IC7400 Ant: Wellbrook LFL 1010 _http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/_ (http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/) 090302 0152 7 -24 0.8 0.508020 WE2XGR FN31 57 090302 0154 11 -20 0.8 0.508020 WE2XGR FN31 57 090302 0156 14 -18 0.8 0.508020 WE2XGR FN31 57 090302 0156 4 -28 1.4 0.508050 W1TAG FN42 53 090302 0158 16 -16 0.8 0.508020 WE2XGR FN31 57 090302 0158 6 -26 1.4 0.508050 W1TAG FN42 53 090302 0200 14 -18 0.7 0.508020 WE2XGR FN31 57 090302 0200 11 -22 1.4 0.508050 W1TAG FN42 53 090302 0202 16 -16 0.8 0.508020 WE2XGR FN31 57 090302 0202 4 -27 1.4 0.508050 W1TAG FN42 53 090302 0204 15 -16 0.9 0.508020 WE2XGR FN31 57 090302 0204 5 -27 1.5 0.508050 W1TAG FN42 53 090302 0206 16 -17 0.8 0.508020 WE2XGR FN31 57 090302 0206 9 -23 1.3 0.508050 W1TAG FN42 53 090302 0208 13 -18 0.9 0.508020 WE2XGR FN31 57 090302 0208 7 -26 1.4 0.508050 W1TAG FN42 53 090302 0210 10 -22 0.8 0.508020 WE2XGR FN31 57 090302 0210 8 -24 1.5 0.508050 W1TAG FN42 53 090302 0212 11 -21 0.8 0.508020 WE2XGR FN31 57 090302 0212 6 -26 1.4 0.508050 W1TAG FN42 53 090302 0214 9 -23 0.9 0.508020 WE2XGR FN31 57 090302 0216 6 -26 0.7 0.508020 WE2XGR FN31 57 090302 0216 6 -25 1.3 0.508050 W1TAG FN42 53 090302 0218 10 -22 0.8 0.508020 WE2XGR FN31 57 090302 0218 4 -28 1.3 0.508050 W1TAG FN42 53 -------------------------------1235997719 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
F4DTL=20 Nicolas JN18FP
RX : Icom IC7400
Ant: Wellbrook LFL 1010
http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/=
 
 
090302 0152   7 -24  0.8 &nbs= p;=20 0.508020  WE2XGR FN31=20 57         
090302 0154&nbs= p;=20 11 -20  0.8   0.508020  WE2XGR FN31=20 57         
090302 0156&nbs= p;=20 14 -18  0.8   0.508020  WE2XGR FN31=20 57         
090302=20 0156   4 -28  1.4   0.508050  W1TAG FN42=20 53          
090302=20 0158  16 -16  0.8   0.508020  WE2XGR FN31=20 57         
090302=20 0158   6 -26  1.4   0.508050  W1TAG FN42=20 53          
090302=20 0200  14 -18  0.7   0.508020  WE2XGR FN31=20 57         
090302 0200&nbs= p;=20 11 -22  1.4   0.508050  W1TAG FN42=20 53          
090302=20 0202  16 -16  0.8   0.508020  WE2XGR FN31=20 57         
090302=20 0202   4 -27  1.4   0.508050  W1TAG FN42=20 53          
090302=20 0204  15 -16  0.9   0.508020  WE2XGR FN31=20 57         
090302=20 0204   5 -27  1.5   0.508050  W1TAG FN42=20 53          
090302=20 0206  16 -17  0.8   0.508020  WE2XGR FN31=20 57         
090302=20 0206   9 -23  1.3   0.508050  W1TAG FN42=20 53          
090302=20 0208  13 -18  0.9   0.508020  WE2XGR FN31=20 57         
090302=20 0208   7 -26  1.4   0.508050  W1TAG FN42=20 53          
090302=20 0210  10 -22  0.8   0.508020  WE2XGR FN31=20 57         
090302=20 0210   8 -24  1.5   0.508050  W1TAG FN42=20 53          
090302=20 0212  11 -21  0.8   0.508020  WE2XGR FN31=20 57         
090302=20 0212   6 -26  1.4   0.508050  W1TAG FN42=20 53          
090302=20 0214   9 -23  0.9   0.508020  WE2XGR FN31=20 57         
090302=20 0216   6 -26  0.7   0.508020  WE2XGR FN31=20 57         
090302=20 0216   6 -25  1.3   0.508050  W1TAG FN42=20 53          
090302=20 0218  10 -22  0.8   0.508020  WE2XGR FN31=20 57         
090302=20 0218   4 -28  1.3   0.508050  W1TAG FN42=20 53          
 
 -------------------------------1235997719-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma03.mx.aol.com (rly-ma03.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.47]) by air-ma05.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMA054-89749ada95913a; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 17:04:18 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma03.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA031-89749ada95913a; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 17:04:11 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LeciH-0004O7-MT for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 22:03:45 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LeciH-0004Ny-A3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 22:03:45 +0000 Received: from mailout10.t-online.de ([194.25.134.21]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LeciF-0007y6-6q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 22:03:45 +0000 Received: from fwd06.aul.t-online.de by mailout10.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 1LeciC-0003cK-03; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 23:03:40 +0100 Received: from e7010 (E6++C8ZXQhkJ4srGnsrDN86soi1lINE95mCUDgeoLqHlBW8oL8zTpndXJEcY2Zbg08@[84.147.223.170]) by fwd06.aul.t-online.de with smtp id 1LeciB-1WsQE40; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 23:03:39 +0100 Message-ID: <000a01c99c4b$eaa79020$1402a8c0@e7010> From: "Walter und Marianne Staubach" To: Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 23:03:39 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4927.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 X-ID: E6++C8ZXQhkJ4srGnsrDN86soi1lINE95mCUDgeoLqHlBW8oL8zTpndXJEcY2Zbg08 X-TOI-MSGID: e6822243-faff-4482-9155-199c696c9733 X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: SM6BHZ WSPR Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C99C54.4A679CA0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE, SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C99C54.4A679CA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Strong signal most of the time here in JN59NO, up to SNR 0 73 Walter DI2AG ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C99C54.4A679CA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Strong signal most of the time here in JN59= NO, up=20 to SNR 0
73   Walter=20 DI2AG
------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C99C54.4A679CA0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da10.mx.aol.com (rly-da10.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.84]) by air-da09.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDA093-a9449bff8a836b; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 15:23:39 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da10.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA104-a9449bff8a836b; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 15:23:21 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LjesL-0005s3-IS for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 19:22:57 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LjesL-0005ru-6r for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 19:22:57 +0000 Received: from qw-out-1920.google.com ([74.125.92.146]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LjesJ-00026w-49 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 19:22:57 +0000 Received: by qw-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 5so143752qwc.16 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 12:22:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=LMXCyZN/XiHPre62T0j53mNIlSv4X4pTHroZ43/0WQ8=; b=QB9eNLQjpM4h0gzP6WGlPkIhQtmctAM8pAsmviP5/p371SZ6UdNjllpN46ULKb13cH oLDJ+AVQ5MmIFZHd88PdwjtudBGRYFIP9k8QACeYNxbUqoj5WMbx1wGtNqK/26+v5E/k sFkP0gIvzrsA8+v2jYgq8WRopDUnUp4j6oIvg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=waJH8w953CkmVr/rdUukR640UmAQKvSoC/qWm7ydTsQ/tm2W25aJeyrEglcTft2tCl fMcGR7bR84PUGxbCKWiWMpTI0IS3m428bidzRQgkD5KTtAj46ubQkl6NC1UlOz0fRlDb x8HIe5nzLOJNrY2V9qDkUftdF8+jpU/fbegJw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.60.207 with SMTP id q15mr676856qah.193.1237317773461; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 12:22:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 14:22:53 -0500 Message-ID: <57a24ca70903171222i5f37f38fk5066943893475a54@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: XGJ and XKO into TI3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m217.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Thanks Laurence, its been a long long time since I've added a new Country on 137! --=20 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 2:16 PM, Laurence BY3A-KL1X China wrote: > http://kl1x.com/ti3.jpg > > 73 > > Laurence > > ________________________________ > Windows Live=99 Contacts: Organize your contact list. Check it out. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md10.mx.aol.com (rly-md10.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.148]) by air-md07.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMD072-92d49bfee809f; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 14:40:04 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md10.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD105-92d49bfee809f; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 14:40:02 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LjeCc-0005Lj-Fw for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 18:39:50 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LjeCc-0005La-38 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 18:39:50 +0000 Received: from qw-out-1920.google.com ([74.125.92.147]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LjeCa-0004Jm-8y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 18:39:50 +0000 Received: by qw-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 5so130002qwc.16 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 11:39:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=sGFjpWKyBrk+cBYqBdj2t5CMZNzx7QhQanM18hhTMLg=; b=Nv10TwEvu0iBYagBM4YNFpazbyX/70pfS8MFSFrFnDHHGco/Es3s49VN+H+OfjdVVP MUbdV34gMlzyTMJLfmGeKJWd9b1G66aOKybK7fahQwxl2DQXki0rwXhPdYu6CY9Sn/rW PZDN0MEElUGa1MaApNoanYzS2QdIwMQ2BJ+Vs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=xaktF7iWSubDWiqJGGLzAaY1JFS1SNwbQIn7oIGNccgDqRwKEcc4bZ1MgC9wMxHgop d3mr4OJ0QSQhn7K1jvA0e0vYUkSCvTgwFgiLsnXmYTooLZTvgI4vBN2lCGzlYXaNbXGV zVFWt8Q6pmMhbrpFGYtXKPDEOxgP5Ljp+dspc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.2.130 with SMTP id 2mr565521qaj.298.1237315186423; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 11:39:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 13:39:46 -0500 Message-ID: <57a24ca70903171139r56a406e1h7339c5de8fd2fbe9@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: One more night Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d272.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Laurence, What did you copy last night? --=20 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 1:32 PM, Laurence BY3A-KL1X China wrote: > > Ill run again on 137.775/781 dot 60 slow from EK80. It is very noisy but > looks like we had some success last night. The grabber appears to run > http://kl1x.com/dx00000.jpg. > > Ill move tomorrow to 500Khz region > > Laurence TI3/KL1X > > ________________________________ > Windows Live=99 Groups: Create an online spot for your favorite groups to > meet. Check it out. --=20 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da02.mx.aol.com (rly-da02.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.76]) by air-da03.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDA032-a5449ae77c912c; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 07:45:21 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da02.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA024-a5449ae77c912c; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 07:44:58 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LeqSt-0004OA-4B for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 12:44:47 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LeqSs-0004O1-K9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 12:44:46 +0000 Received: from psmtp08.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.22]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LeqSr-0004zK-H9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 12:44:46 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp08.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KFZ00JHVFEDFS@psmtp08.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 13:44:38 +0100 (MET) Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 13:44:35 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: XGJ 04-03.jpg Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_5w2IdcN10s+guSMf7yKnQQ)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_5w2IdcN10s+guSMf7yKnQQ) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_vipnq+En+E9Q+YL9uHAxxw)" --Boundary_(ID_vipnq+En+E9Q+YL9uHAxxw) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Hi Warren,Lf capture XGJ Henny cpm 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: XGJ 04-03.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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Hi Warren,Lf
capture XGJ
Henny cpm
73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
XGJ 04-03.jpg

Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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The black trace gives it away. If there is extended QRM that spans the noise measurement period (which is the WHOLE minute before) and the 5s Tx period it will show up on both. The different system of noise measurement explains why the (no QRMed) green and blue traces are not sitting on top of teh black trace. Ideally, with no signal there, they should. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/3/17 Andy Talbot > I filled in a couple at 1800, deliberately, by flicking the test switch on > my beacon Tx. But there are too many peaks on the green annd blue > traces to not suspect someone else is firing up a Tx. > > Its not a case of false decodes - there's not such thing as a 'decode' wit= h > this monitoring S/W. All it does is to measure the signal power over > precisely this time slot, using a synchronised FFT with a bin size of > 0.2Hz, which after windowing gives about 0.4Hz noise bandwidth. So any QR= M > would have to be quite strong to make a significant impact, and persist ov= er > 5 seconds. Short spikes get averaged out to not-a-lot. > > Did the messages about the modified beacon timing software get though this > reflector - don't appear to see them in the in box? > > If not, http://www.g4jnt.com/beacons.htm at the bottom look for PCBCN > Directly, http://www.g4jnt.com/PCBCN.zip > > > Andy G4JNT > www.g4jnt.com > > > 2009/3/17 Gary - G4WGT > > *Hi Andy, LF,* >> >> * * >> >> *I have not detected anything here other than your Tx.* >> >> * * >> >> *I was going to e-mail anyway because I have some false decodes on the 5 >> & 6 minute slots, see list below. These coincide with high bursts of nois= e >> which I experience here from time to time. Is there an issue with the dec= ode >> software being =93foxed=94 by high noise level?* >> >> * * >> >> *Gary =96 G4WGT.* >> >> * * >> >> *15:45 40.35 25.76 -240.0 0.0* >> >> *15:46 41.05 25.76 -240.0 1499.5* >> >> *15:47 39.52 25.76 -240.0 0.0* >> >> *16:00 41.70 25.75 -240.0 1499.5* >> >> *16:01 41.62 25.75 -240.0 1510.6* >> >> *16:02 31.49 25.75 -240.0 0.0* >> >> *16:15 40.10 25.47 -240.0 0.0* >> >> *16:16 30.16 25.47 -240.0 0.0* >> >> *16:17 29.17 25.47 -240.0 0.0* >> >> *16:30 37.85 28.93 -240.0 0.0* >> >> *16:31 41.80 28.93 -240.0 0.0* >> >> *16:32 36.23 28.93 -240.0 0.0* >> >> *16:45 40.98 25.80 -240.0 1499.6* >> >> *16:46 29.45 25.80 -240.0 0.0* >> >> *16:47 30.17 25.80 -240.0 0.0* >> >> *17:00 35.23 25.58 -240.0 0.0* >> >> *17:01 28.35 25.58 -240.0 0.0* >> >> *17:02 35.28 25.58 -240.0 0.0* >> >> *17:15 45.32 25.10 -240.0 1499.4* >> >> *17:16 30.14 25.10 -240.0 0.0* >> >> *17:17 27.57 25.10 -240.0 0.0* >> >> *17:30 51.09 25.30 -240.0 1499.5* >> >> *17:31 53.16 25.30 -240.0 1499.6* >> >> *17:32 30.18 25.30 -240.0 0.0* >> >> *17:45 47.93 25.21 -240.0 1499.5* >> >> *17:46 48.63 25.21 -240.0 1499.5* >> >> *17:47 49.12 25.21 -240.0 1499.5* >> >> *18:00 38.75 34.29 -240.0 0.0* >> >> *18:01 32.01 34.29 -240.0 0.0* >> >> *18:02 28.89 34.29 -240.0 0.0* >> >> *18:15 51.36 26.01 -240.0 1499.6* >> >> *18:16 38.85 26.01 -240.0 0.0* >> >> *18:17 40.74 26.01 -240.0 0.0* >> >> *18:30 43.06 24.96 -240.0 1499.5* >> >> *18:31 29.24 24.96 -240.0 0.0* >> >> *18:32 29.61 24.96 -240.0 0.0* >> >> *18:45 36.98 26.26 -240.0 0.0* >> >> *18:46 34.87 26.26 -240.0 0.0* >> >> *18:47 36.14 26.26 -240.0 0.0* >> >> *19:00 50.09 26.57 -240.0 1499.7* >> >> *19:01 42.04 26.57 -240.0 1518.0* >> >> *19:02 28.58 26.57 -240.0 0.0* >> >> * * >> >> * * >> >> * * >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From:* owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto: >> owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] *On Behalf Of *Andy Talbot >> *Sent:* 17 March 2009 19:48 >> *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> *Subject:* LF: Who's playing on 503.7 >> >> >> >> OK, Who is it? [?] >> >> We can see you >> >> There's activity in the 5 and 6 minutes slots. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Andy G4JNT >> www.g4jnt.com >> > > --001636c5990b5180f2046556831a Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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The black trace gives it away.=A0 If there is extended =A0QRM that span= s=A0 the noise measurement period (which is the WHOLE minute before) and the= 5s Tx period it will show up on both.=A0=A0 The different system of noise m= easurement=A0explains why the (no QRMed) green and blue traces are not sitti= ng on top of teh black trace.=A0=A0 Ideally, with no signal there, they shou= ld.

Andy =A0G4JNT
www= .g4jnt.com


2009/3/17 Andy Talbot <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>
I filled in a couple at 1800, deliberately, by flicking the test switch= on my beacon Tx.=A0=A0=A0But there are too many peaks on the green annd blu= e traces=A0to not suspect someone else is firing up a Tx.
=A0
Its not a case of false decodes - there's not such thing as a '= decode' with this monitoring S/W.=A0=A0 All it does is to measure=A0the=20= signal power over precisely =A0this time slot, using=A0a synchronised FFT wi= th a=A0bin size of 0.2Hz,=A0which after windowing gives=A0about 0.4Hz noise=20= bandwidth.=A0 So any QRM would have to be quite strong to make a significant= impact, and persist over 5 seconds.=A0=A0 Short spikes get=A0 averaged out=20= to not-a-lot.
=A0
Did the messages about the modified beacon timing software get though t= his reflector - don't appear to see them in the in box?
=A0
If not,=A0 http://www.g4jnt.com/beacons.htm=A0at the bottom look for PCBCN
=A0

Andy =A0G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com


2009/3/17 Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk= >=20

Hi Andy, LF,

=A0

I have not dete= cted anything here other than your Tx.

=A0

I was going to=20= e-mail anyway because I have some false decodes on the 5 & 6 minute slot= s, see list below. These coincide with high bursts of noise which I experien= ce here from time to time. Is there an issue with the decode software being=20= =93foxed=94 by high noise level?

=A0

Gary =96 G4WGT.=

=A0

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17:15=A0 45.32= =A0 25.10=A0 -240.0=A0 1499.4

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18:15=A0 51.36= =A0 26.01=A0 -240.0=A0 1499.6

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18:47=A0 36.14= =A0 26.26=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

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19:02=A0 28.58= =A0 26.57=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

=A0

=A0

=A0

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_= lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf=20= Of Andy Talbot
Sent: 17 March 2009 19:48To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<= br> Subject: LF: Who's playi= ng on 503.7

=A0

OK, Who is it?

We can see you

There's activity in the=A05 and 6 minutes slots.

=A0

=A0


Andy =A0G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com



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sr ,
Capture YO and WPF,
Henny cpm
73s
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boundary="-----------------------------1238348010" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 -------------------------------1238348010 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello the list, Im beaconing on 137.718 (dial is 136.220) with a 33 % cycle. Between 1900Z and 2100Z Reports are welcome via the WSPR database Thank you in advance F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP -------------------------------1238348010 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello the list, Im beaconing on 137.718  (di= al=20 is 136.220) with a 33 % cycle.
Between 1900Z and=20 2100Z

Reports are welcome via the WSPR database
Thank yo= u in=20 advance

F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP
 -------------------------------1238348010-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh01.mx.aol.com (rly-mh01.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.137]) by air-mh01.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMH013-bb849aad3bc2bb; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 13:28:24 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh01.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH018-bb849aad3bc2bb; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 13:28:14 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LdqO3-0006Y5-Vq for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 18:27:39 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LdqO3-0006Xw-H3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 18:27:39 +0000 Received: from ttsmtp-2.cpwnetworks.com ([62.24.128.243] helo=ttsmtp.cpwnetworks.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LdqO2-0004K8-27 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 18:27:39 +0000 X-Path: TalkTalk-smtp X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AlIGAMthqklOko+S/2dsb2JhbACCMCyBZIcVBslJhBoG Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.146.143.146]) by ttsmtp.cpwnetworks.com with SMTP; 01 Mar 2009 18:27:31 +0000 Message-ID: <00c101c99a9b$6210b400$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <000a01c99a91$a54a1180$1402a8c0@e7010> Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 18:27:30 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: WSPR on 600m Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00BE_01C99A9B.61D531A0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_00BE_01C99A9B.61D531A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Walter decode now 182200 13 -9 0.4 -138 0 DI2AG JN59 30 MAL/G3KEV =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Walter und Marianne Staubach=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 5:17 PM Subject: LF: WSPR on 600m Dear All on MF, DI2AG will transmit WSPR tonight. Beginning 18UTC, ending 7UTC.=20 Dial frequency 503.6KHz, beacon on 505.090KHz. Power 1W ERP. Reports welco= me. Please report on WSPRnet.org or this reflector. 73 Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.4/1976 - Release Date: 02/27/09=20= 13:27:00 ------=_NextPart_000_00BE_01C99A9B.61D531A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Walter
decode now
182200 13  -9   0.4  -1= 38 =20  0   DI2AG JN59 30
MAL/G3KEV
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 5:17=20 PM
Subject: LF: WSPR on 600m

Dear All on MF,
       = ; DI2AG=20 will transmit WSPR tonight. Beginning 18UTC, ending 7UTC.
Dial frequency 503.6KHz, beacon on 505.09= 0KHz.=20 Power 1W ERP. Reports welcome. Please report on WSPRnet.org or this=20 reflector.
 
73  Walter  DI2AG / DJ2LF
 
 
 


No virus found in this incoming message.
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------=_NextPart_000_00BE_01C99A9B.61D531A0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf08.mx.aol.com (rly-mf08.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.178]) by air-mf06.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMF064-97a49cf3601256; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 04:49:23 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf08.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF088-97a49cf3601256; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 04:49:07 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lnqgn-0008Vh-6r for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 09:48:21 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lnqgm-0008VY-S2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 09:48:20 +0100 Received: from dx.ru ([80.68.4.13]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lnqgj-0004Jh-SX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 09:48:20 +0100 Received: from [85.26.183.18] (helo=UR5IBG) by dx.ru with esmtpa auth=ed@dx.ru id 1LnqfO-000CQA-W6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 12:46:56 +0400 Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 12:46:22 +0400 From: Ed RU6LA X-Mailer: The Bat! (v4.0.7) Professional Organization: Ed Lesnichy X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1655675752.20090329124622@dx.ru> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 1.3 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.332 Subject: LF: OE5ODL Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------97153F4345C2C1A" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------------97153F4345C2C1A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear LF enthusiasts! I have new one for me on 137 - OE First Ausria - Russia 2way QSO on 137 TNX Oswald! Daytime propagation is very good now low level QRN-QRM 73! 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(post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma02.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA023-89149cfefa9145; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 18:01:15 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lo33D-0006Er-66 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 23:00:19 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lo33C-0006Ei-ML for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 23:00:18 +0100 Received: from mail-bw0-f219.google.com ([209.85.218.219]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lo339-0000LN-V1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 23:00:18 +0100 Received: by bwz19 with SMTP id 19so1969190bwz.4 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 15:00:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=JbDarkRlp9HdNpKbt1zZRudIdXifvGZHTV/xaf5N/IA=; b=FL+IKrTysaOrB1E54K4cqVMIwCJoeEbHJnJgygExO5AACCX6/aJyJnIzEAqpvgjOBd udSn58V19SkkY+h02EyKc00QEGAe3iyQX4nQD48Dm4+PUuxfyc/dxXO8+Udi9clErunN giBhWZQh867SFeC7M3Ed2osLV3EeJFveYfMMY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=D9BtMT/GCCjOWSvM1Uc8wsiBBhV/LK5/xtV79IXZQ6VXJcjslRTgwSo2lXxXFMo+1d d6jdwtpnCIzEHV/x1++yn2IvflhNSYWCT5DJ5keR8u2wbf6tabjyPDKWuY0LJ/dfjWNb RHEXYIZkisEha7QR7MxixWkV5vDU/8amBDa7c= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.117.1 with SMTP id o1mr3376501faq.96.1238364008813; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 15:00:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <006b01c9b080$7127b560$0900a8c0@AM> References: <006b01c9b080$7127b560$0900a8c0@AM> Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 23:00:08 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: a6a4455079d8f060 Message-ID: From: John Gould To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Fw: EI--- 500khz permit applications Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5b680d91573046649162a X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d256.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : fail X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --001636c5b680d91573046649162a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit That's excellent news, Michael. We were discussing the matter with IRTS in the margins of the Region 1 conference last year, so it's good to see some movement with COMREG. Drop me a direct e-mail (g3wkl@btinternet.com) and I'll look into why your account isn't working on the reflector 73 John, G3WKL --001636c5b680d91573046649162a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That's excellent news, Michael.=A0 We were discussing the matter with IR= TS in the margins of the Region 1 conference last year, so it's good to=20= see some movement with COMREG.

Drop me a direct e-mail (g3wkl@btinternet.com) and I'll look into=20= why your account isn't working on the reflector

73 John, G3WKL
--001636c5b680d91573046649162a-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df09.mx.aol.com (rly-df09.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.22]) by air-df04.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDF041-57549aff7ee46; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 11:04:26 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df09.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF092-57549aff7ee46; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 11:04:00 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LfG1R-0005t1-Il for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 16:02:09 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LfG1R-0005ss-4G for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 16:02:09 +0000 Received: from mail-fx0-f174.google.com ([209.85.220.174]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LfG1N-0004z5-Ck for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 16:02:09 +0000 Received: by fxm22 with SMTP id 22so3972728fxm.4 for ; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 08:01:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=2CV2uQt8wPBLUnVsWDt/LM1qKmrca2Tgn6zUANkEEZ4=; b=YDsOxvMgpzwM0tV5TrwTO3332iERhX/+LycQHV+MPLknxKjAE9eM4daEyIX04uTpI+ KSdis2XLtLKklPt5N/dF4x80xZfeiqHd99vMN27CwAEKnuH2msK1NxuRIgsrngBYsP13 JZVlskTrHVXRIz/Rl7NLpTtay3jNlK+aUXGos= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=YW6CA73g+cKc1JbiBMIZgfOSKEiytsat19KDCgftEMilWe7yv0rdJLzEJRSBpC64SZ YOZQBagj53VEWBy+9CwQD4l9hQ5ThkUCGIy5KsBHUCHnnwTLjOLbj5NvRnfnW7jarLUs pUHIzrvFd5kwLWmR4KXOtt7OauTSmpT1VEaWU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.105.75 with SMTP id s11mr1110130fao.4.1236268912277; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 08:01:52 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.1.20090305091934.0181aca8@magma.ca> References: <000a01c99a91$a54a1180$1402a8c0@e7010> <7.0.1.0.1.20090305091934.0181aca8@magma.ca> Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 16:01:52 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Deep copy... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d277.1 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) The effect of AGC is even worse than amplitude modulation, it can add a non linear element to the signal processing. The amplitude of the receiver output is proportional to the input power multiplied by a factor (an attenuation) that depends on the near-enough instananeous signal level. So Pout =3D G * Pin * K.* Pin where G is Rx gain with no AGC, and K is the AGC function, which we''ll assume for now is linear (it isn't but...) So, for this very simplistic Rx, Pout =3D Pin^2 {G.K}. Since K won't be simple and linear in practice, even higher power terms in Pin will appear, including teh odd order ones that give rise to close in intermod products. So, for signals that are modulated, and / or vary at a rate slower than the AGC action, we will see intermodulation products, harmonics and propably other cross-modulation effects as well. I have seen very pronounced AGC induced intermod products when doing dopplergram plots of HF signals. Where two very-nearly-identical signals were present via multiple propagation paths, sidebands could clearly be seen either side of the pair due to AGC action in the receiver following the fading that was the apparant effect of the two signals combining. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/3/5 Bill de Carle : > At 09:25 PM 3/4/2009, you wrote: > > I seem to get best results while trying to pull signals out of the noise > when the AGC of the receiver is OFF as well as the Noise Blanker and Noise > reduction features being OFF... > > Do you concur?? > > Also setting a good audio filter to the passband of interest seems to bypa= ss > some heavy static hits as well... > > I've noticed that when doing HF frequency measurement tests (working to th= e > nearest milliHertz) - turning off the AGC under high static conditions see= ms > to improve the accuracy of the measurement, at least with the software I > use.=A0 One plausible explanation is that AGC action necessarily introduce= s > amplitude modulation (on all signals in the passband).=A0 When I process t= he > AGC'd signal with what amounts to a very narrow DSP filter the added > amplitude modulation shows up as apparent sidebands close-in on the signal > I'm trying to measure.=A0 If the power in those sidebands is comparable to > that of the signal whose frequency I'm looking for, the FFT algorithm (whi= ch > assumes the real signal has the largest amplitude) gets confused and comes > up with an estimated frequency somewhere between the correct value and tha= t > of a nearby sideband.=A0 The effect is small however because the AGC pumpi= ng > action doesn't occur very fast so the added sidebands are seen to be only > some milliHertz away from the signal.=A0 The sidebands occur on both sides= of > the "real" signal, so one might expect them to cancel out but in practice > they don't because the amount of error depends on where the "real" signal > falls with respect to the fixed frequency bins of the FFT.=A0 It should be > possible to model the AGC action of a particular receiver and compensate f= or > it in the software.=A0 No doubt the phenomenon becomes less significant wi= th > smaller FFT's or shorter integration times.=A0 Changing the AGC setting > between SLOW-FAST-OFF might help under some conditions.=A0 With QRSS-60 > signaling rates it can take a long time to find out which setting is > optimum, especially when band conditions are changing or the QSB period is > close to a bit time, hi! > > VE2IQ > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me03.mx.aol.com (rly-me03.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.36]) by air-me01.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINME014-9a949c0edab375; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 08:49:03 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me03.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME035-9a949c0edab375; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 08:48:46 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LjvBj-0006Jv-Co for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 12:48:03 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LjvBj-0006Jm-18 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 12:48:03 +0000 Received: from mail-qy0-f107.google.com ([209.85.221.107]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LjvBg-0006i5-9i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 12:48:02 +0000 Received: by qyk5 with SMTP id 5so10421qyk.30 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 05:47:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=FvKwVTORMxk+OsZaG2PitmRgSe/CcjwoM8TAITetBqI=; b=mFM/iVgO98i9SBJvdMohjsiAdFtjpVv7v+Qkyb5J/jh2N+DkYSVwHuyNnd++bWgV6B AlTWl0KHajalMxM0LwBLo4yx7cbVbb9eyLIp+RC6IXQY3EPgdRJFX8JRF+kn8yhzKLAv 5Di45eH6sG6f70knZaOfZ119f9VBQR1JUVJNU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=n2cqCyc1YfnvXXRfVC8DeBFr8iciE+GBDYOT9WOV3CuAHZSKTnbhZm9tc7NKDEEslS Z4ZyZl1mnuiXae/Ae6bgAkGAnwpkZ02YMCGmXfSOKf/UVa9bjKntVLaw5+wuQWcjHvzo FvgPWAMYggkIwqV9aRCgDaxmInWgggUK6aqY0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.54.138 with SMTP id q10mr1908794qag.220.1237380473602; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 05:47:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <65D8D15AD26D49269C034EB663175CB6@ns94d01ae4d850> References: <65D8D15AD26D49269C034EB663175CB6@ns94d01ae4d850> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 08:47:53 -0400 Message-ID: <57a24ca70903180547u29bc3cfv2468d1cbbd9e8ca6@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: XKO 18-03.jpg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m276.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Henny, Thank you for the excellent capture! -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 2009/3/18 henny van elst : > Hello Dex,LF > capture XKO > Henny pa3cpm > 73s > Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden > verzonden: > XKO 18-03.jpg > > Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen > het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. > Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe > bijlagen worden afgehandeld. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da01.mx.aol.com (rly-da01.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.75]) by air-da01.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDA013-a4c49b8565b3d3; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 20:25:20 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da01.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA014-a4c49b8565b3d3; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 20:25:03 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LhYjB-0005Tx-J1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 00:24:49 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LhYjB-0005To-4y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 00:24:49 +0000 Received: from fwx.uvtc.net ([195.22.25.2] helo=uvtcmail.se) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LhYj9-0007Jm-5v for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 00:24:49 +0000 thread-index: AcmiqOstb1dg/JWvR6+N/j35CgHleg== X-MEFilter-Version: 6.5.0 Received: from radiorummet ([87.227.51.55]) by uvtcmail.se with MailEnable ESMTP; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 00:24:32 +0000 Message-ID: <1BA1BD4327304EBA8991CB45200F14CB@radiorummet> From: "Gus" To: References: <929C5BBFDED6431E8C9F8642D5402094@DR2> <6F5FDD77751E47668B504D68B5A72CE8@DR2> In-Reply-To: <6F5FDD77751E47668B504D68B5A72CE8@DR2> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 01:24:30 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.4325 Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message Importance: normal X-ME-Bayesian: 0.000000 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_FONT_BIG=0.256,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Re: SM6BHZ Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002F_01C9A2B1.4AAFB4F0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_FONT_BIG, HTML_MESSAGE,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_002F_01C9A2B1.4AAFB4F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable No , less power! Compressor is on now 00:24 Z ----- Original Message -----=20 From: dave.riley3=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 1:17 AM Subject: LF: Re: SM6BHZ Go ahead but all I will see is maybe more power?? ----- Original Message -----=20 From: dave.riley3=20 To: 600MRG=20 Cc: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 6:59 PM Subject: LF: SM6BHZ WSPR loud and clean 504.500 090311 2356 6 -26 1.1 0.504497 SM6BHZ JO57 30 TNX DE /17 ------=_NextPart_000_002F_01C9A2B1.4AAFB4F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
No , less power!
Compressor is on now 00:24=20 Z
----- Original Message -----
dave.riley3
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 1:17= =20 AM
Subject: LF: Re: SM6BHZ

Go ahead but all I will see is maybe more=20 power??
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 dave.riley3
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 6= :59=20 PM
Subject: LF: SM6BHZ

WSPR loud and clean =20 504.500
 
090311 2356   6 -26 =20 1.1   0.504497  SM6BHZ JO57 30
 
 
TNX DE /17
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_002F_01C9A2B1.4AAFB4F0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd05.mx.aol.com (rly-dd05.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.152]) by air-dd08.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD082-b7b49cd2ee025c; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 15:54:17 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd05.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD055-b7b49cd2ee025c; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 15:54:10 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LnI7R-0006DH-Do for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 19:53:33 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LnI7R-0006D8-2S for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 19:53:33 +0000 Received: from [193.252.22.29] (helo=smtp20.orange.fr) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LnI7P-0006jC-Pa for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 19:53:33 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2016.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 5345920000E8 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 20:53:22 +0100 (CET) Received: from JR (Mix-Dijon-111-2-68.w193-250.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.250.55.68]) by mwinf2016.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 36F6320000EF for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 20:53:21 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20090327195321225.36F6320000EF@mwinf2016.orange.fr Message-ID: <200903272053000830.510CFFD5@smtp.wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <20090327111219.y3bcvqcrev6swg8s@webmail4.kuleuven.be> References: <20090327111219.y3bcvqcrev6swg8s@webmail4.kuleuven.be> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (P) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 20:53:00 +0100 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Lazy Man's CW made it to Venus and back Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 >Quoting dl4yhf@freenet.de: > >> The German HR TV will >> send a documentation tonight at 19:30 (local). The EVE >> (Earth-Venus-Earth) details follow tomorrow on Hessischer Rundfunk. It was a very interesting programme. It was also good to see Karl DJ4ZC aga= in. I haven't seen him since we collaborated on the software for Oscar 9. 73 John F5VLF/G3PAI From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (rly-mg03.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.109]) by air-mg01.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG011-a0449acc62f132; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 00:55:20 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG036-a0449acc62f132; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 00:55:08 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LeNVW-0003Au-PX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 05:49:34 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LeNVT-0003Al-Dq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 05:49:31 +0000 Received: from bay0-omc3-s27.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.227]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LeNVH-0002Lk-II for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 05:49:31 +0000 Received: from BAY105-W27 ([65.54.224.127]) by bay0-omc3-s27.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 2 Mar 2009 21:48:53 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [212.4.140.33] From: Lubos OK2BVG To: Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 06:48:52 +0100 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <004401c99b78$02cb52b0$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> References: <000a01c99a91$a54a1180$1402a8c0@e7010> <20090301205328.1s1wth6swu0w80c4@webmail4.kuleuven.be> <20090301205958.za3harvgnsowkw8w@webmail4.kuleuven.be> <49AAF55A.8070106@toya.net.pl> <49ABA94B.9040106@mbsks.franken.de> <004401c99b78$02cb52b0$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Mar 2009 05:48:53.0259 (UTC) FILETIME=[BC0BD5B0:01C99BC3] X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_ef093c25-03c9-4b42-b3fa-9f10e42ed6dc_" Subject: RE: LF: OK0EMW audible X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_ef093c25-03c9-4b42-b3fa-9f10e42ed6dc_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Andrey, LF! That=B4s fine, 549 is good report for my 1W ERP. Thank you for your report! Sposiba i 73! Lubos, OK2BVG *********************************** =20 > From: rn3agc@mail.ru > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 20:46:33 +0000 > Subject: LF: OK0EMW audible >=20 > Hello Lubos, LF, > OK0EMW this evening audible in Moscow, 549. >=20 > 73 > Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV >=20 _________________________________________________________________ Pozvi sv=E9 p=F8=E1tele z Facebooku a Hotmailu do Messengeru! https://www.invite2messenger.net/Default.aspx=3D --_ef093c25-03c9-4b42-b3fa-9f10e42ed6dc_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Andrey, LF!
That=B4s fine, 549 is good report for my 1W ERP. Thank=20= you for your report!

Sposiba i 73!

Lubos, OK2BVG

******= ***************************** 

> From: rn3agc@mail.ru
>= ; To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 20:46:33 +0= 000
> Subject: LF: OK0EMW audible
>
> Hello Lubos, LF,> OK0EMW this evening audible in Moscow, 549.
>
> 73
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St=E1hn=ECte si zcela nov= =FD Messenger 2009! Klikni zde! =3D --_ef093c25-03c9-4b42-b3fa-9f10e42ed6dc_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db07.mx.aol.com (rly-db07.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.82]) by air-db10.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB101-ad649c5412f3dc; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 15:34:29 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db07.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB074-ad649c5412f3dc; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 15:34:10 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ll6wy-00004t-LG for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 19:33:44 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ll6wy-0008WQ-9N for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 19:33:44 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-2-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.53]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ll6ww-0000Kz-EX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 19:33:44 +0000 X-Trace: 170424801/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.59.96/None/g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.59.96 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Microsoft Office Outlook 11Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtAHAI7dxElYajtg/2dsb2JhbACCU1RDhT19g2bGMQeDdwY X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,400,1233532800"; d="scan'208,217";a="170424801" Received: from 88-106-59-96.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.59.96]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 21 Mar 2009 19:33:41 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF -RSGB LF Group" Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 19:33:41 -0000 Message-ID: <004d01c9aa5b$f0abb320$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AcmqW+5OYF4WxZkpT6ewkZ9998wliw== X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 500KHz grabber & beacon uploads. Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_004E_01C9AA5B.F0ABB320" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_004E_01C9AA5B.F0ABB320 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit LF, Apologies for the loss of the grabbers & the inferior beacon monitoring chart. I am carrying out some changes in my garden & I have had to disconnect some parts of the antenna system. I am hoping to complete the work tomorrow (Sunday) & have things back to normal. 73, Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. ------=_NextPart_000_004E_01C9AA5B.F0ABB320 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

LF,

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Apologies for the loss of the g= rabbers & the inferior beacon monitoring chart.

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I am carrying out some changes=20= in my garden & I have had to disconnect some parts of the antenna system.<= /span>

I am hoping to complete the wor= k tomorrow (Sunday) & have things back to normal.

 =

73,

 

Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.=

 

------=_NextPart_000_004E_01C9AA5B.F0ABB320-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (rly-ma08.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.52]) by air-ma09.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMA093-8c149d2786e1a5; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 16:09:36 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA083-8c149d2786e1a5; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 16:09:21 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LokFo-0002Uv-Ok for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 21:08:12 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LokFo-0002Um-Dq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 21:08:12 +0100 Received: from vms173005pub.verizon.net ([206.46.173.5]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LokFm-0002gL-Bs for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 21:08:12 +0100 Received: from DR2 ([71.184.212.10]) by vms173005.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KHD00764ZX5KJT9@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:07:53 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: From: "dave.riley3" To: References: Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 16:07:51 -0400 MIME-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Beacons Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0025_01C9B21A.D7CAB650" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.7 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_70_80, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01C9B21A.D7CAB650 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Any 600M beacons or sigs from EU tonight?? TNX Dave @ WD2XSH/17 ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01C9B21A.D7CAB650 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Any 600M beacons or sigs from EU=20 tonight??
 
 
TNX
 
Dave @ WD2XSH/17
 
 
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XGJ signal was good last night.

Lubos, OK2BVG,=20= JN88KS

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quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d296.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Thanks to Henny, Lubos, Victor, and Andrey for the XGJ reports and captures the past two days. XGJ off tonight due to storms. --=20 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 2009/3/26 henny van elst : > Hi Warren, > capture 2 > henny cpm > 73s > Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden > verzonden: > XGJ=A0 2.jpg > > Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen > het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. > Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe > bijlagen worden afgehandeld. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de09.mx.aol.com (rly-de09.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.145]) by air-de03.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDE032-50049b19afa269; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 16:52:21 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de09.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE095-50049b19afa269; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 16:51:57 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lfhx6-0002GU-Ue for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 21:51:32 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lfhx6-0002GL-1r for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 21:51:32 +0000 Received: from mailout.toya.net.pl ([217.113.224.27] ident=postfix) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lfhx5-00060Q-9M for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 21:51:31 +0000 Received: from localhost (unknown [192.168.120.26]) by lazir.toya.net.pl (TOYAnet MailServer) with ESMTP id C9BFC8C34D for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 22:51:29 +0100 (CET) X-TOYA-AV: AntyVir-Skaner at toya.net.pl Received: from lazir.toya.net.pl ([192.168.120.25]) by localhost (antyvir.toya.net.pl [192.168.120.26]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zs7Lsl2T4uGT for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 22:51:29 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.11.178.152] (lazir [217.113.224.3]) (Authenticated sender: unimlyn) by lazir.toya.net.pl (TOYAnet MailServer) with ESMTP id 693E68C347 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 22:51:29 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <49B19AE0.1020304@toya.net.pl> Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 22:51:28 +0100 From: =?UTF-8?B?UGlvdHIgTcWCeW5hcnNraQ==?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <004401c99e6d$d4f771e0$1402a8c0@e7010> In-Reply-To: <004401c99e6d$d4f771e0$1402a8c0@e7010> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: DI2AG WSPR Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------050107040609040504030307" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TITLE_EMPTY,LINES_OF_YELLING,LINES_OF_YELLING_2 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --------------050107040609040504030307 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Walter und Marianne Staubach wrote: > Dear All on MF, > as Roland ( DL3NDR, former DI2AT ) lend his equipment to me, > DI2AG will create a non-stop-whisper-weekend beginning tonight 18UTC > an ending Monday morning 7UTC. Power will be 27dBm, QRG 505.090KHz. I > am interested in your reports, also daylight propagation.Thank you in > advance. > 73 Walter DI2AG > > Hello Walter, LF group no problem with decoding your wspr beacon: 2118 -17 -0.6 0.505094 0 DI2AG JN59 23 2134 -24 -0.3 0.505094 0 DI2AG JN59 23 2140 -23 -0.6 0.505094 0 DI2AG JN59 23 2146 -14 -0.4 0.505094 0 DI2AG JN59 23 with its frequency placed nicely between qrss3 beacons of OK0EMW (audible, 30 Hz below) and DI2AM ( "visible" in wspr window, 90 Hz up) have to finish at this moment but will try to listen over the weekend also with the daytime RX'ing. 73, peter, sq7mpj qth: lodz, poland /jo91rs/ --------------050107040609040504030307 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Walter und Marianne Staubach wrote:
Dear All on MF,
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0 as Roland ( DL3NDR, former DI2AT ) lend his equipment to me, DI2AG will create a non-stop-whisper-weekend beginning tonight 18UTC an=C2=A0ending Monday morning 7UTC. Power will be 27dBm, QRG 505.090KHz. I am interested in your reports, also daylight propagation.Thank you in advance.
73=C2=A0=C2=A0 Walter=C2=A0=C2=A0 DI2= AG
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
Hello Walter, LF group

no problem with decoding your wspr beacon:

2118 -17 -0.6=C2=A0=C2=A0 0.505094=C2=A0 0 DI2AG JN59 23
2134 -24 -0.3=C2=A0=C2=A0 0.505094=C2=A0 0 DI2AG JN59 23
2140 -23 -0.6=C2=A0=C2=A0 0.505094=C2=A0 0 DI2AG JN59 23
2146 -14 -0.4=C2=A0=C2=A0 0.505094=C2=A0 0 DI2AG JN59 23

with its frequency placed nicely between qrss3=C2=A0 beacons of=C2=A0 OK0EMW (audible, 30 Hz below) and DI2AM ( "visible" in wspr window, 90 Hz up)
have to finish=C2=A0 at this moment but will try to listen over the weekend= =C2=A0 also with the daytime=C2=A0 RX'ing.
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 73, peter, sq7mpj
qth: lodz, poland /jo91rs/
--------------050107040609040504030307-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg10.mx.aol.com (rly-dg10.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.94]) by air-dg02.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDG021-5fb49c495b010e; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 03:22:45 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg10.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG106-5fb49c495b010e; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 03:22:26 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LkvWC-0007wB-2v for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 07:21:20 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LkvWB-0007w2-O5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 07:21:19 +0000 Received: from psmtp30.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.32]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LkvW7-0007jO-40 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 07:21:19 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp30.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KGU00185HR60U@psmtp30.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 08:21:07 +0100 (MET) Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 08:21:04 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <293317D7B88A4C62A9BCB4856AFBDB83@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: WPF 20-03.jpg Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_Xlaq9DRXQf7n1tUcXaJFYw)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_Xlaq9DRXQf7n1tUcXaJFYw) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_MDzSDbTbM2aOhqUhhnjJpw)" --Boundary_(ID_MDzSDbTbM2aOhqUhhnjJpw) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Hi,Lf traces WPF Henny pa3cpm 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: wpf 20-03.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld. --Boundary_(ID_MDzSDbTbM2aOhqUhhnjJpw) Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
Hi,Lf
traces WPF
Henny pa3cpm
73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
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--Boundary_(ID_UKckFNg1carOmzTJ3LElEw)-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma01.mx.aol.com (rly-ma01.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.44]) by air-ma05.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMA053-88d49b3d821c1; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 10:37:48 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma01.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA017-88d49b3d821c1; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 10:37:25 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LgK7I-0005nU-Sl for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 14:36:36 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LgK7I-0005nL-4E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 14:36:36 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.159]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LgK7G-00036T-O3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 14:36:36 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3428.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 76BFC1C00083 for ; Sun, 8 Mar 2009 15:36:20 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.31.236]) by mwinf3428.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 734571C00082 for ; Sun, 8 Mar 2009 15:36:17 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20090308143617472.734571C00082@mwinf3428.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: References: <0566EF6DE20B4249A3E74859BF9BA2C6@AGB> <9C03FBF153AB478A9B0DBC5580CF20D2@AGB> <28FA0F184B25444F8BA2F1EC5FC42C04@AGB> In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 14:36:16 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8064.206 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8064.206 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: AW: 503.7 Multi-function beacon ... Its working ! Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0051_01C99FFB.3D1258B0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0051_01C99FFB.3D1258B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Grerhard, Andy's post about the new beacon came out of the blue, (as is the signal h= ihi), Working on this, I've simply added a page to the uk500khz news group= and posted links about to generate some interest and make sure the beacon=20= details are known to hams and swl's out side this reflector ..=20 The only thing that occurs to me is that there is a possibility for recepti= on reports to be directed to the 5 meg group , I note that the graph gener= ator by G4IRX requests your call and locator before processing the file an= d presenting you with a plot. so I will see if anything can be done to prev= ent this , the data format is of course distorted by having only one active=20= beacon.. so it will show up .. but may as yet be unexpected ...! I note from previous email that the pulse aspect of the beacon is required=20= for precise measurements, I think that may be possible to set up a 'experime= nt' but the aspect of interference to other users may be significant, Andy= has referred to the concept of 'phase reversal' in a continues carrier syst= em (or medium pulse ?) that would perhaps be a acceptable mode of modulation= , weather it could be transmitted by a 'normal' transmitter im note sure , b= ut its worth noting that activities on 500, to date are not 'funded' as suc= h and time and capital out lay are part of the 'hobby' and such hardware req= uirements and software re-writes are beyond many of the active stations. bu= t perhaps as interest spreads .. things may change ..?=20 Tnx-=20 Graham G0NBD IO83LK From: Beckmann, Gerhard=20 Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 11:06 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Cc: 'Robert Hemesley'=20 Subject: LF: AW: 503.7 Multi-function beacon ... Its working ! Hello Graham, Hello Andy,=20 =20 reading about your activities concerning Multi-function beacon I tried yeste= rday evening to catch your signals, but unfortunately with no results copyin= g your sig. May be condx were not good enough. Moreover I had some bad manm= ade QRM from TV and PC. =20 As Rob Hemesley told you I am active in 5-MHz-beaco- monitoring specia= lly concerning scattergram monitoring in order to analyse signal path situa= tion (direct wave / sky wave behaviour). But I am running both analysis software, GB3RAL.exe and Scattergram.ex= e and it would not be any problem to modify the internal PC-clock specially=20= regarding GB3RAL.exe in order to analyse the long term signal level of your=20= Multi-function beacon. So I will try to continue monitoring your Multi-funct= ion beacon hopefully that condx will be better in the next evening sessions=20= (hi). If there will be Scattergram acties in future I certainly need some mo= re dB signal level, but it would be very interesting to investigate the sign= al path situation. Of course, this is more interesting for those participants who are loc= ated in a distance range between 150 and 300 km in order to monitor the slid= e crossover from direct wave to sky wave signal path.=20 However, thank you very much for implementation of your very interest= ing Multi-function beacon project and I will keep on running my monitoring a= ctivities and will inform you in any case about further results. =20 vy 73 and a lot of success by running Multi-function beacons, I will be "on=20= the qui vive" !!! =20 de Gerhard / DK6NI (JN59LN) =20 By the way:=20 Dial frequency 505.2 kHz, is that o.k.? (because GB3RAL.exe is decoding with= 1500 Hz too). For BPSK31-decoding I am using DigiPan Vers.2.0 =20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =20 =20 =20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blackshe= ep.org] Im Auftrag von Graham Gesendet: Samstag, 7. M=E4rz 2009 23:46 An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Betreff: LF: 503.7 Multi-function beacon ... Its working ! =20 So far so good .. quite a step up in signal round 2100 hrs =20 no frequency decode before then , 15 db over noise at 2130 =20 but a trend showing=20 about 1 hour slow qsb=20 =20 any other reports ? =20 G ..=20 =20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.9/1988 - Release Date: 03/06/09 19= :17:00 ------=_NextPart_000_0051_01C99FFB.3D1258B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi, Grerhard,
 
Andy's post about the  new beacon came= out of=20 the  blue, (as is the signal hihi), Working on this,  I've simply=20 added a page to the  uk500khz news group and posted links about to = ;=20 generate some interest and make sure the beacon details are known=20= to=20 hams and swl's out side this reflector ..
 
The only thing that occurs to  me is t= hat=20 there is a possibility for reception reports to be  directed to the 5 m= eg=20 group , I note that the  graph generator by G4IRX  requests your c= all=20 and locator  before processing the file and presenting you with a plot.= so=20 I will see if anything can be done to  prevent this , the data format i= s of=20 course distorted by having only one active beacon.. so it will show up ... b= ut=20 may as yet be unexpected ...!
 
I note from previous email that the pulse a= spect of=20 the  beacon is required for precise measurements, I think that may be=20 possible to set up a 'experiment'  but the aspect of interference to&nb= sp;=20 other users may be significant, Andy has referred to the concept of 'phase=20 reversal' in a continues carrier system (or medium pulse ?) that would perha= ps=20 be a acceptable mode of modulation, weather it could be transmitted by a=20 'normal' transmitter im note sure , but its worth noting that activities on=20= 500,=20 to date  are not 'funded' as such and time and capital out lay are part= of=20 the 'hobby' and such hardware requirements  and software re-writes are=20 beyond many of the active stations. but perhaps as interest spreads .. thing= s=20 may change ..?
 
Tnx-
 
Graham
 
G0NBD
IO83LK
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 --__Next_1236211885_Part33__-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da01.mx.aol.com (rly-da01.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.75]) by air-da08.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDA084-a4a49bf5e7923; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 04:25:43 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da01.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA012-a4a49bf5e7923; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 04:25:30 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LjUbw-0001Nm-Al for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 08:25:20 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LjUbv-0001Nd-3J for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 08:25:19 +0000 Received: from mail-bw0-f164.google.com ([209.85.218.164]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LjUbs-0000S3-9O for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 08:25:19 +0000 Received: by bwz8 with SMTP id 8so4248405bwz.4 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 01:25:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=4NW9u0pqGdD3Hiva7KOZxRd8/Tf+JeBteqb46yb48po=; b=TE8COTsmZcD/EXGDbf09cdaOqTrsrv0c6peACC36xfdyq4o4NprABA8Z7WowoZieWc zXTHT3SRo+CA+6KpH7vGj+8VAVuSoI/Lp1smIvxgFaFZILm/IUFogN0iK27Kj5BPbYvf KO5lU1ZGMFmMQ0FF8Q+GpHOZL/UMiCT9yT/wg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=XKrkXRv6eyAzf2PrafVLZPIt6MLMpFqazKCfMgrmtaMQsj/gqfEiMtnbbdu5Dh0dir eKjdmBf+FLpGRdAbzqa4gZZ1ebvBXFILhaK7uh45LTj0YAKfSe0M3WUg+1fnEZP4y9+J mCOBa1F+dgVJffnoy59PHD5B50TJuR1mWfwf8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.124.10 with SMTP id s10mr1920279bkr.34.1237276509488; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 00:55:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <916F3329CAA846A19B450540FCC7E0AB@AGB> References: <009001c9a588$7eb02c60$6401a8c0@asus> <004501c9a623$a4bf81d0$6401a8c0@asus> <2ED02F4327204E3C903828F9E18AA72B@AGB> <001e01c9a665$ebeac870$6401a8c0@asus> <00be01c9a66e$c8bfdbc0$0900a8c0@AM> <004a01c9a677$2a8b48a0$6401a8c0@asus> <005101c9a679$df148f50$6401a8c0@asus> <916F3329CAA846A19B450540FCC7E0AB@AGB> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 07:55:09 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5a826d6466904654be230 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNSAFE,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d251.2 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --001636c5a826d6466904654be230 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Easily, all you need is a five second transmission of carrier at xx:05:25 xx:20:25 etc But accurate timing to at least one second accuracy is essential, so the PC clock will have to be set continuously. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/3/16 Graham > Andy, > > Is there any way the slots could be filled using a pc ... ? if a small ex= e > could be run to make a cw pulse then that would be no problem ? > > G .. > > *From:* Andy Talbot > *Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2009 9:36 PM > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > *Subject:* Re: LF: RE: Syncback software > > See you just have - got quite a shock until I realised the noise had > plummeted as well. > Any takers for the 5 and 6 minute slots? > > Andy G4JNT > www.g4jnt.com > > > 2009/3/16 Gary - G4WGT > >> *Andy,* >> >> ** >> >> *OK, I will insert an attenuator at the antenna socket (that=92s an easy >> move) & watch how it performs. It is switched at 10dB steps so I will sta= rt >> at 10db of course.* >> >> ** >> >> *Cheers,* >> >> ** >> >> *Gary.* >> >> ** >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From:* owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto: >> owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] *On Behalf Of *Andy Talbot >> *Sent:* 16 March 2009 20:45 >> >> *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> *Subject:* Re: LF: RE: Syncback software >> >> >> >> Doesn't matter which - just total system gain. That S/W works best if th= e >> noise threshold rides at about 10dB above the baseline, then it allows f= or >> up to 70 - 80dB of signal peaks. >> >> >> Andy G4JNT >> www.g4jnt.com >> >> 2009/3/16 Gary - G4WGT >> >> Alan, >> >> When you wrote :- >> >> my only comment is that you may have too much gain in the system. >> >> Are you meaning sound card or receiver gain? >> >> Gary. >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> >> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Alan Melia >> Sent: 16 March 2009 19:38 >> >> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software >> >> Hi Gary my only comment is that you may have too much gain in the system.= . >> It >> is sometimes better to have the noise further down nearer the axis. >> >> I am afraid there is a major problem with this kind of beacon, when the >> fading period is shorter than the sampling interval, so you dont really >> know >> what the path is doing. The only reliable points are the peaks, the >> troughs >> dont really mean anything without some very sophisticated analysis and >> probably two spaced receivers. However it does give a snapshot of the ban= d >> without taking up too much bandwidth (this was what was required for 5MHz >> too). Despite all the data collected very little analysis has actually be >> done on the 5MHz data collected by this program. The one succesfull bit o= f >> work was that published in Radcom by Marcis Walden G0IJZ. I used it for >> some >> time whilst Andy was testing the Poldhu beacon on 160m and also during th= e >> 1st two months that ran. I was certainly surprised by the daytime path on >> 160m from here. I have seen the data collected in Canada via Joe Craig >> VO1NA >> and it is difficult to see how to use it. >> >> Still if you dont collect the data you will never know!! >> >> Alan G3NYK >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Gary - G4WGT" >> To: >> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 6:35 PM >> Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software >> >> >> > Hi Graham, LF, >> > >> > >> > >> > The original HTML Code for the 2 minute refresh is still inserted into >> the >> > page format, so upload is 30 minute intervals with Syncback & 2 minute >> > refresh. I have left the refresh in case I revert back to the original >> > grabber page. I will look at changing it if I continue to use the beaco= n >> > chart upload. >> > >> > >> > >> > I would like to have feedback from the LF group regarding the page, if >> you >> > check it out periodically, is it useful to you, what are you looking >> for. >> > >> > >> > >> > You can view the chart on my web site at :- >> > >> > >> > >> > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html >> > >> > >> > >> > 73 >> > >> > >> > >> > Gary - G4WGT. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > _____ >> > >> > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham >> > Sent: 16 March 2009 17:20 >> > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> > Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software >> > >> > >> > >> > Hi Gary, >> > >> > >> > >> > The page seemed to refresh quite often ... are there two settings ? >> > >> > >> > >> > G .. >> > >> > >> > >> > From: Gary - G4WGT >> > >> > Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:40 AM >> > >> > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> > >> > Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software >> > >> > >> > >> > Hi Graham, LF, >> > >> > >> > >> > You wrote :- >> > >> > >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute >> > intervals. <<< that could be backed off to 15 mins as the beacon only >> > sends every 15 ?? >> > >> > >> > >> > I mentioned in my previous mail to ignore the text on the page as it wa= s >> > originally for grabber 1 for when I upgrade the web site (to a new >> design >> & >> > better navigation etc), also mentioned is that upload is every 30 >> minutes. >> > >> > >> > >> > If the uploaded chart proves useful or interesting to operators & >> viewers >> > then I will change the text & make it a permanent feature for the >> > foreseeable future. >> > >> > >> > >> > BTW :- >> > >> > >> > >> > For those of you who are not familiar with the chart - >> > >> > >> > >> > The RED trace is Andy's (G4JNT) beacon signal & the BLACK trace is the >> noise >> > level at my QTH. >> > >> > >> > >> > The Blue & GREEN are not in use & should be ignored on this chart as >> they >> > are for the other beacons used when monitoring on the 5MHz allocation. >> > >> > >> > >> > Cheers, >> > >> > >> > >> > Gary - G4WGT >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > _____ >> > >> > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham >> > Sent: 15 March 2009 22:17 >> > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> > Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software >> > >> > >> > >> > Gary.. >> > >> > >> > >> > That looks good ... 0500 looks best time for a qso .. see you then >> Smile >> > emoticon >> > >> > >> > >> > >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute >> > intervals. <<< that could be backed off to 15 mins as the beacon only >> > sends every 15 ?? >> > >> > >> > >> > the 15 db over the noise in day time is the same at this qth .. looks >> like >> > the big dips round 1900 where just when we where testing .. typical >> hihi >> > >> > >> > >> > tnx- G .. >> > >> > >> > >> > From: Gary - G4WGT >> > >> > Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 7:55 PM >> > >> > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> > >> > Subject: LF: RE: Syncback software >> > >> > >> > >> > LF, >> > >> > >> > >> > I have now got the software, Syncback running correctly (I think). >> > >> > >> > >> > The purpose of this is to upload the chart from Andy's beacon as >> received >> > here to my web site periodically, ie. every 30 minutes. >> > >> > >> > >> > I now have a receiver running 24/7 monitoring Andy,s beacon on 503.7KHz= . >> > >> > >> > >> > You can view the chart on my web site at :- >> > >> > >> > >> > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html >> > >> > >> > >> > For the moment ignore the text on the page as it is originally designed >> to >> > use with the 500KHz grabber when I renew my web site design. If it is a >> > useful upload I will make it a permanent feature but may have to extend >> the >> > frequency coverage of grabber 1 so not to overload the PC with >> operations >> > which will cause the PC to struggle. >> > >> > >> > >> > Let me have your comments please. >> > >> > >> > >> > 73 >> > >> > >> > >> > Gary - G4WGT. >> > >> > >> > >> > _____ >> > >> > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT >> > Sent: 15 March 2009 16:10 >> > To: LF -RSGB LF Group >> > Subject: LF: Syncback software >> > >> > >> > >> > Hi LF, >> > >> > >> > >> > If anyone is using Syncback software & can help, please. >> > >> > >> > >> > I am tying to upload a file to my website who's filename does not >> change, >> > only the file size changes. I tried to do it with Argo-upload but faile= d >> so >> > I downloaded Syncback & still failing. >> > >> > >> > >> > Syncback gives me the following message :- >> > >> > >> > >> > ********************************** >> > >> > Can connect, but unable to change to destination directory: >> > >> > /chart01.bmp:not a directory >> > >> > ********************************** >> > >> > The Syncback help does not give me the answer. >> > >> > >> > >> > Any help will be appreciated >> > >> > >> > >> > Or >> > >> > >> > >> > Will Argo-Upload do it? >> > >> > >> > >> > Or >> > >> > >> > >> > Is there something else to do it? >> > >> > >> > >> > Thanks in anticipation, >> > >> > >> > >> > 73, >> > >> > >> > >> > Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. >> > >> > >> > >> > _____ >> > >> > >> > No virus found in this incoming message. >> > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.13/2001 - Release Date: >> 03/14/09 >> > 06:54:00 >> > >> > _____ >> > >> > >> > No virus found in this incoming message. >> > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.15/2003 - Release Date: >> 03/15/09 >> > 14:07:00 >> > >> > >> >> >> >> > > ------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.15/2004 - Release Date: 03/16/09 > 07:04:00 > > --001636c5a826d6466904654be230 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Easily, all you need is a five second transmission of carrier at xx:05:= 25 xx:20:25 etc
But accurate timing to at least one second accuracy is essential, so th= e PC clock will have to be set continuously.

Andy =A0G4JNT
www= .g4jnt.com


2009/3/16 Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
Andy,
=A0
Is there any way the=A0 slots could be=20= filled using a pc ... ? if a small exe could be run to=A0 make a cw=A0 pulse= then that would be no problem ?
=A0
G ..


See you just have - got quite a shock until I realised the noise had pl= ummeted as well.
Any takers for the 5 and 6 minute slots?
2009/3/16 Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk= >

Andy,

<= /b>=A0

OK, I will inse= rt an attenuator at the antenna socket (that=92s an easy move) & watch h= ow it performs. It is switched at 10dB steps so I will start at 10db of cour= se.

<= /b>=A0

Cheers,<= /font>

<= /b>=A0

Gary.

<= /b>=A0

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_= lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf=20= Of Andy Talbot
Sent: 16 March 2009 20:45=20


To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org
Subject: Re: LF:=20= RE: Syncback software

=A0

Doesn't matter which - just total system gain.=A0 That S/W works best i= f the noise threshold rides at about 10dB above the baseline,=A0 then it all= ows for up to 70 - 80dB of signal peaks.

<= span style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">
Andy =A0G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com

2009/3/16 Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>

Alan,

When you wrote :-

<= span style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">my only comment is that you may have too much= gain in the system.

Are you meaning sound card or receiver gain?

Gary.



-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<= /a>

[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Alan Melia
Sent= : 16 March 2009 19:38

<= span style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF= : RE: Syncback software

Hi Gary my only comment is that you may have too much gain in the system= . It
is sometimes better to have the noise further down nearer the axis..=

I am afraid there is a major problem with this kind of beacon, when=20= the
fading period is shorter than the sampling interval, so you dont really know=
what the path is doing. The only reliable points are the peaks, the trou= ghs
dont really mean anything without some very sophisticated analysis an= d
probably two spaced receivers. However it does give a snapshot of the bandwithout taking up too much bandwidth (this was what was required for 5MHz<= br>too). Despite all the data collected very little analysis has actually be=
done on the 5MHz data collected by this program. The one succesfull bit ofwork was that published in Radcom by Marcis Walden G0IJZ. I used it for so= me
time whilst Andy was testing the Poldhu beacon on 160m and also during= the
1st two months that ran. I was certainly surprised by the daytime path on160m from here. I have seen the data collected in Canada via Joe Craig VO1N= A
and it is difficult to see how to use it.

Still if you dont coll= ect the data you will never know!!

Alan G3NYK




----- Original Message -----
From: &quo= t;Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 6:35 PM
Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback softwa= re


> Hi Graham, LF,
>
>
>
> The origin= al HTML Code for the 2 minute refresh is still inserted into the
> pag= e format, so upload is 30 minute intervals with Syncback & 2 minute
> refresh. I have left the refresh in case I revert back to the original<= br>> grabber page. I will look at changing it if I continue to use the be= acon
> chart upload.
>
>
>
> I would like to h= ave feedback from the LF group regarding the page, if you
> check it out periodically, is it useful to you, what are you looking fo= r.
>
>
>
> You can view the chart on my web site at=20= :-
>
>
>
> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/g= rabber3.html
>
>
>
> 73
>
>
>
> Gary - G4WGT= .
>
>
>
>
>
> =A0 _____
>
>=20= From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham
&= gt; Sent: 16 March 2009 17:20
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software
>
>
>
>=20= Hi Gary,
>
>
>
> The page seemed to =A0refresh quite= often ... are there two settings ?
>
>
>
> G ..
>
>
>
> From: Gary - G4WGT <mailto:g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
><= br>> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:40 AM
>
> To: rsgb_lf_group@bla= cksheep.org
>
> Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software
>
>
><= br>> Hi Graham, LF,
>
>
>
> You wrote :-
><= br>> >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at=20= 2 minute
> intervals. <<< that could be backed off to =A015 mins as the b= eacon only
> sends every 15 ??
>
>
>
> I menti= oned in my previous mail to ignore the text on the page as it was
> or= iginally for grabber 1 for when I upgrade the web site (to a new design
&
> better navigation etc), also mentioned is that upload is every= 30 minutes.
>
>
>
> If the uploaded chart proves us= eful or interesting to operators & viewers
> then I will change th= e text & make it a permanent feature for the
> foreseeable future.
>
>
>
> BTW :-
>
&= gt;
>
> For those of you =A0who are not familiar with the chart=20= -
>
>
>
> The RED trace is Andy's (G4JNT) beacon= signal & the BLACK trace is the
noise
> level at my QTH.
>
>
>
> The Blue &= ; GREEN are not in use & should be ignored on this chart as they
>= are for the other beacons used when monitoring on the 5MHz allocation.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> Gary -=20= G4WGT
>
>
>
>
>
> =A0 _____
>
&= gt; From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham
&= gt; Sent: 15 March 2009 22:17
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software
>
>
>
>=20= Gary..
>
>
>
> That looks good =A0... 0500 looks bes= t time for a qso .. see you then Smile
> emoticon
>
>
>
> >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refres= h at 2 minute
> intervals. <<< that could be backed off to=20= =A015 mins as the beacon only
> sends every 15 ??
>
>
>
> the =A015 db over the noise in day time is the =A0same at this=20= qth .. looks
like
> the big dips round 1900 =A0where just when we w= here testing .. =A0typical hihi
>
>
>
> tnx- G .. >
>
>
> From: Gary - G4WGT <mailto:g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
><= br>> Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 7:55 PM
>
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksh= eep.org
>
> Subject: LF: RE: Syncback software
>
>
>
&= gt; LF,
>
>
>
> I have now got the software, Syncbac= k running correctly (I think).
>
>
>
> The purpose o= f this is to upload the chart from Andy's beacon as received
> here to my web site periodically, ie. every 30 minutes.
>
>=
>
> I now have a receiver running 24/7 monitoring Andy,s beacon= on 503.7KHz.
>
>
>
> You can view the chart on my w= eb site at :-
>
>
>
> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber= 3.html
>
>
>
> For the moment ignore the text on= the page as it is originally designed to
> use with the 500KHz grabber when I renew my web site design. If it is a=
> useful upload I will make it a permanent feature but may have to ex= tend
the
> frequency coverage of grabber 1 so not to overload the P= C with operations
> which will cause the PC to struggle.
>
>
>
> Le= t me have your comments please.
>
>
>
> 73
>>
>
> Gary - G4WGT.
>
>
>
> =A0 ___= __
>
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb= _lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT
> Sent: 15 March 2009 16:10
> To: LF -RSGB LF Group
> Subject= : LF: Syncback software
>
>
>
> Hi LF,
>
&g= t;
>
> If anyone is using Syncback software & can help, plea= se.
>
>
>
> I am tying to upload a file to my website who&#= 39;s filename does not change,
> only the file size changes. I tried t= o do it with Argo-upload but failed
so
> I downloaded Syncback &= ; still failing.
>
>
>
> Syncback gives me the following message :-
&= gt;
>
>
> **********************************
>
&g= t; Can connect, but unable to change to destination directory:
>
> /chart01.bmp:not a directory
>
> **************************= ********
>
> The Syncback help does not give me the answer.
&= gt;
>
>
> Any help will be appreciated
>
>
>
> Or
>
>
>
> Will Argo-Upload do it?
&= gt;
>
>
> Or
>
>
>
> Is there some= thing else to do it?
>
>
>
> Thanks in anticipation,=
>
>
>
> 73,
>
>
>
> Gary - G4WG= T - IO83QP.
>
>
>
> =A0 _____
>
>
>= ; No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.13/2001 - Release Date: 03/14= /09
> 06:54:00
>
> =A0 _____
>
>
> No vi= rus found in this incoming message.
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>


=A0


<= /div>


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-- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 10:51 AM, wrote: > hi all, > > good copy xgj,traces xko > > 73 > > Victor From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh01.mx.aol.com (rly-mh01.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.137]) by air-mh06.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMH064-bb549b3bc19269; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 08:38:00 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh01.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH015-bb549b3bc19269; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 08:37:48 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LgIFZ-0004SS-3J for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 12:37:01 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LgIFY-0004SJ-BN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 12:37:00 +0000 Received: from smtp2b.orange.fr ([80.12.242.145]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LgIFX-0000uK-Po for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 12:37:00 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2b09.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id ACBF17000097 for ; Sun, 8 Mar 2009 13:36:51 +0100 (CET) Received: from JR (Mix-Dijon-107-3-33.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.248.2.33]) by mwinf2b09.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 89CA47000090 for ; Sun, 8 Mar 2009 13:36:50 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20090308123650564.89CA47000090@mwinf2b09.orange.fr Message-ID: <200903081336210669.16D951B8@smtp.wanadoo.fr> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (P) Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2009 13:36:21 +0100 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: On 137 at 1146z: "xdv r wet 10c calm 73 su va bwo" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 20 to 30 dB over the noise but with interruptions from some local QRM. John Rabson F5VLF 58800 Cervon France JN17vg From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf07.mx.aol.com (rly-mf07.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.177]) by air-mf04.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMF041-97249ce79ea1b2; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 15:26:57 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf07.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF078-97249ce79ea1b2; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 15:26:36 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LneAH-0000Pq-MO for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 19:25:57 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LneAH-0000Ph-3w for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 19:25:57 +0000 Received: from relay3.ptmail.sapo.pt ([212.55.154.23] helo=sapo.pt) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LneAF-0006rY-Jp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 19:25:57 +0000 Received: (qmail 24195 invoked from network); 28 Mar 2009 19:24:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sapo.pt) (10.134.37.163) by relay3 with SMTP; 28 Mar 2009 19:24:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 5310 invoked from network); 28 Mar 2009 19:24:30 -0000 X-AntiVirus: PTMail-AV 0.3-0.92.0 X-Virus-Status: Clean (0.00437 seconds) Received: from unknown (HELO TORRE) (hpessoa@sapo.pt@[82.155.194.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mta13 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 28 Mar 2009 19:24:30 -0000 Message-ID: <007201c9afda$c31fc3e0$6501a8c0@TORRE> From: "Henrique Pessoa" To: References: <49CBF051.9090707@usa.net> <49CBFB9E.9040903@usa.net> <49CC0310.3040808@telia.com> <200903270850420424.4E77B52F@smtp.wanadoo.fr> Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 19:24:06 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090327-0, 27-03-2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Lazy Man's CW made it to Venus and back Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Well, for the statistics, a portuguese version same sense is also available it reads " dar pérolas a porcos ". 73 Henrique CT1HX ----- Original Message ----- From: "John RABSON" To: Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 7:50 AM Subject: Re: LF: Lazy Man's CW made it to Venus and back On 26/03/2009 at 23:34 Johan H. Bodin wrote: >I didn't know it was an English saying/proverb! The swedish translation >"Kasta pärlor för svinen" is sometimes used in similar circumstances... Very close. The English version has the same origins as Swedish "Casting pearls before swine". 73 John F5VLF From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh11.mx.aol.com (rly-mh11.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.147]) by air-mh08.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMH083-61749bb7c44275; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 05:43:43 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh11.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH114-61749bb7c44275; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 05:43:34 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LiQOi-0007u0-T1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 09:43:16 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LiQOi-0007tr-89 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 09:43:16 +0000 Received: from imo-m27.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.8]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LiQOg-0008Pu-1Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 09:43:16 +0000 Received: from F4DTL@aol.com by imo-m27.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id l.ca8.43bde934 (39955) for ; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 05:42:55 -0400 (EDT) From: F4DTL@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 05:42:54 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5029 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: F6CWA F6BWO reception ICOM 7200 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_ca8.43bde934.36ecd61e_boundary" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --part1_ca8.43bde934.36ecd61e_boundary Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1237023773" -------------------------------1237023773 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP RX : Icom IC7200 Ant: Miniwhip -------------------------------1237023773 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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<731EB49F88B309428FFDDD2423F810E4B90C1C@HERMES4.ds.leeds.ac.uk> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: <731EB49F88B309428FFDDD2423F810E4B90C1C@HERMES4.ds.leeds.ac.uk> Thread-Topic: Re: energy saving bulbs Thread-Index: AcmgBQlcGnSesynkRq62WV9GOYbLuQAI+pBo References: <1794381892.23372.1236524009509.JavaMail.mail@webmail03> <007f01c9a004$97057380$0900a8c0@AM> From: Chris Trayner To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Mar 2009 20:32:14.0694 (UTC) FILETIME=[F76DC060:01C9A02C] X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C9A02C.F81A4D68" Subject: LF: RE: Re: energy saving bulbs X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) ------_=_NextPart_001_01C9A02C.F81A4D68 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear All, Thanks, Alan, for your thoughts. > The tale that filament lamps are inefficient is a myth !! All the energy f= ed to the bulb is converted into radiation ! some is light and some is heat.....a CLF just produces less heat and more light and more polution! Well, in a sense you're right: efficiency is defined as (energy out) / (ener= gy in), and the conservation of energy principle implies that (in the steady= state) everything is 100% efficient ;-) In practice, by efficiency one means (wanted energy out) / (energy in), and=20= when you turn on a lamp you're not necessarily cold. In engineering terms it= 's better to decouple the things and have a lamp produce just light.=20 - Electricity is generated at something like 1/3 efficiency overall, and usi= ng fuels to generate heat directly is better. - The idea that waste heat can be used is relevant in cold climates, but pre= sumably less so nearer the equator. I also wonder whether these discussions may be useful only for a limited tim= e. I get the impression that LED room lighting may be starting to replace ot= her forms. Is this right? How does its efficiency compare with other forms?=20= Opinions, anyone? If LED room lighting does come in, it raises new problems of interference re= levant to LF. One thinks of LEDs as being innocent DC devices fed via a resi= stor. But modern designs often turn them on and off at frequencies in the kH= z range, generating harmonics going into the lower radio bands. This has bee= n known for some time in the cave radio community, where 87kHz is the most c= ommonly used band. The Cave Radio Journal has also documented interference w= ith 2m and 70cm amateur band handhelds. This can work both ways - if I speak= into a PMR446 radio it quenches my LED helmet lamp - the Empire strikes bac= k! Cave radio experience is that interference from LED lamps is very short rang= e, but these lamps are driven from local batteries. Will mains-driven ones r= adiate from the wiring? Do vehicle LEDs cause interference? Does anyone have= any experience of this? 73, Chris G4OKW ----------------------------- Dr Chris Trayner School of Electronic & Electrical Engineering, The University of Leeds, Leeds LS2 9JT, United Kingdom Tel: +44 113 34 32053 Fax: +44 113 34 32032 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C9A02C.F81A4D68 Content-Type: application/ms-tnef; name="winmail.dat" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 eJ8+IhEUAQaQCAAEAAAAAAABAAEAAQeQBgAIAAAA5AQAAAAAAADoAAEIgAcAGAAAAElQTS5N aWNyb3NvZnQgTWFpbC5Ob3RlADEIAQ2ABAACAAAAAgACAAEEgAEAHAAAAFJFOiBSZTogZW5l cmd5IHNhdmluZyBidWxicwBsCQEFgAMADgAAANkHAwAIABQAIAAPAAAALgEBIIADAA4AAADZ BwMACAAUACAADwAAAC4BAQmAAQAhAAAAMUIwNTVFRkFDQ0E3OUE0OTg3RTVFMzM5RUM2NzRC MjEAWQcBA5AGAAwOAAA5AAAAAwAmAAAAAAADADYAAAAAAEAAOQBoTRr4LKDJAR4APQABAAAA BQAAAFJFOiAAAAAAAgFHAAEAAAA5AAAAYz11czthPSA7cD1Vbml2ZXJzaXR5IG9mIExlO2w9 SEVSTUVTNC0wOTAzMDgyMDMyMTVaLTE2MTIAAAAAHgBJAAEAAAAcAAAATEY6IFJlOiBlbmVy Z3kgc2F2aW5nIGJ1bGJzAEAATgAAj85zBKDJAR4AWgABAAAAIwAAAG93bmVyLXJzZ2JfbGZf 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esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LmUao-0000D0-3f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:00:34 +0000 Received: from smtpa1.mediabeam.com ([194.25.41.13]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LmUal-0003jw-9a for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:00:33 +0000 Received: from r300-1 ([194.25.41.40]) by smtpa1.mediabeam.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n2PExNAr027895 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:59:23 +0100 From: "Uwe Jannsen" To: Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:59:18 Message-ID: <08BC07D903190E3B12316@kabelmail.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-PRIORITY: 3 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 1.8 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,INVALID_DATE=1.76 Subject: Re: LF: DJ8WX Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=PRIORITY_NO_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) thanks, Andrey so the 113mWERP made the 1800km through rain and snow. Im surprised. GL and 73 Uwe/dj8wx/jo43sv -------- Kabel E-Mail Reply --------------- From: rn3agc@mail.ru To : rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: 25.03.2009 09:36:25 Hello Uwe, capture at 22.03z 73 Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh07.mx.aol.com (rly-mh07.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.143]) by air-mh08.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMH081-be449aaf57818e; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 15:52:23 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH074-be449aaf57818e; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 15:52:09 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LdsdR-0000Ep-99 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 20:51:41 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LdsdQ-0000Eg-St for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 20:51:40 +0000 Received: from mailout.toya.net.pl ([217.113.224.27] ident=postfix) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LdsdQ-0005Ph-6H for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 20:51:40 +0000 Received: from localhost (unknown [192.168.120.26]) by lazir.toya.net.pl (TOYAnet MailServer) with ESMTP id D0A958C274 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 21:51:38 +0100 (CET) X-TOYA-AV: AntyVir-Skaner at toya.net.pl Received: from lazir.toya.net.pl ([192.168.120.25]) by localhost (antyvir.toya.net.pl [192.168.120.26]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uyOTRY66VGdO for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 21:51:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.11.178.152] (lazir [217.113.224.3]) (Authenticated sender: unimlyn) by lazir.toya.net.pl (TOYAnet MailServer) with ESMTP id 814CA8C257 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 21:51:38 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <49AAF55A.8070106@toya.net.pl> Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 21:51:38 +0100 From: =?UTF-8?B?UGlvdHIgTcWCeW5hcnNraQ==?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000a01c99a91$a54a1180$1402a8c0@e7010> <20090301205328.1s1wth6swu0w80c4@webmail4.kuleuven.be> <20090301205958.za3harvgnsowkw8w@webmail4.kuleuven.be> In-Reply-To: <20090301205958.za3harvgnsowkw8w@webmail4.kuleuven.be> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WSPR on 600m Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) sri bad decode of di2ag: 2024 -14 2.6 0.505179 2 1C5HNX NI57 10 2034 -25 0.6 0.505094 0 DI2AG JN59 30 unfortunately , wsprnet(database) accepted it and i have automatic upload on. 73,peter,sq7mpj p.s #1 it would be a nice record - almost 9000 km on 500 kHz ( 1W erp) with "1/2" of w3dzz on a rx side..... post scriptum # 2 doeas anyone have an idea how to remove bad record from wspr database ? (record as a line not record as a record ..hi) qth: lodz, poland /jo91rs/ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me01.mx.aol.com (rly-me01.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.34]) by air-me06.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINME062-99849b147c8c8; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 10:57:33 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me01.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME014-99849b147c8c8; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 10:56:58 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LfcPT-0005jz-O4 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 15:56:27 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LfcPT-0005jq-5r for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 15:56:27 +0000 Received: from mail-fx0-f174.google.com ([209.85.220.174]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LfcPR-0001YN-O0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 15:56:27 +0000 Received: by fxm22 with SMTP id 22so501292fxm.4 for ; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 07:56:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=6JXEJZgHZ8/LAuPbl1h0X8SkpkMDbfpZ0l4x2FnKX3M=; b=AiHrJU1P2yb0a0Feh8Nla6wZxAZI0hWCcBoBZUbzJky/QmH0D4qI8gKDQjL9VA9Q6E 6altvwUm+w/2KK2WqENd74NkWpA0EKFC3uOKUJAfMw/r0uAHfG1aLBybITc+hNVIr3Eo zGGFiQyJ/xCoyMNi/UgFy9CL02JXx7oH1Of3o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=YcU/VVyRVoebvoY7v7MktA5fj/PvNz4UHoVm8ksFhJVSM6tN528KG4t1X+ANbIIC6Q ySxeKFMK/sN5qWGAk71JAuT+1Qywb1PVgYfWLaUs6VNFp3r6kIxr5K+H/qzGaU52E88R 78m4FImpJmYk5uyU1pw1rxNJL1PXuV/kkWMdM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.107.135 with SMTP id b7mr2172756fap.30.1236354979690; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 07:56:19 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <9C03FBF153AB478A9B0DBC5580CF20D2@AGB> References: <0566EF6DE20B4249A3E74859BF9BA2C6@AGB> <9C03FBF153AB478A9B0DBC5580CF20D2@AGB> Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 15:56:19 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Multi-function beacon Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5b3146179de046475532a X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m211.2 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --001636c5b3146179de046475532a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Graham - I'm not bothered about log files myself as I don't have the time to collate massses of data but if someone else feels they'd like to do it... Haven't hought about how long it will go for, I may just forget about it shoved up in the corner of the garage where, if it catches fire, all damage will be contained, so happy enough running 24/7 for now. The 5MHz monitoring system is in there as well. As for your questions on the pulsed part of the wavefom; its not in use on this transmission , I replaced it with a PSK31 message instead. The original 5MHz system used a pulse width of 500us at a PRF of 40Hz, with the idea of using an SSB reception bandwidth, so something coul dbe done with SSB Tx, but these days we'd probably go another direction with PSK and a PN sequence rather than a simple short pulse. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/3/6 Graham > Ok Andy, > > Obvious question, hi, > > How long are you thinking of running the beacon and where do you want > the report files to be sent ? > > There may be quite a few records generated in a short time, I note from > the last 'hfc' that there is quite a backlog of data from the 5 meg > operation but there is movement > to analyse the data. should prove interesting .. > > How aggressive is the pulsed section of the tx cycle,?, I know there is > some interest in using that facility for study's on 500, but as yet I have > not found the rise/fall and timing parameters. dose it need to be a pulse > or could a small frequency shift be used if time is being measured ? > > Tnx- G .. > > > > > > > --001636c5b3146179de046475532a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Graham -
I'm not bothered about log files myself as=A0 I don't have the=20= time to collate massses of data but if someone else feels they'd like to= do it...
=A0
Haven't hought about how long it will go for, I may just forget abo= ut it shoved up in the corner of the=A0garage where, if it catches fire, all= damage will be=A0contained, =A0so=A0happy enough=A0running 24/7 for now.= =A0 The 5MHz monitoring system is in there as well.
=A0
As for your questions on the pulsed part of the wavefom;=A0 its not in=20= use on this transmission , I replaced it with a PSK31 message instead.=A0= =A0 The original 5MHz system used a pulse width of 500us at a PRF of 40Hz, w= ith the idea of using an SSB reception bandwidth, so something coul dbe done= with SSB Tx, but these days we'd probably go another direction with PSK= and=A0a PN sequence rather than a simple short pulse.

Andy =A0G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com


2009/3/6 Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
Ok Andy,
=A0
Obvious question, hi,
=A0
How long are you=A0 thinking of running= the=A0 beacon and where do=A0 you=A0 want the report files to=A0 be sent ?<= /font>
=A0
There may be quite a few records genera= ted in a short time, I note from the=20= last 'hfc' that there is quite a backlog of data from the=A0 5=A0 me= g operation but there is movement
to analyse the=A0 data. should prove in= teresting .. =A0
=A0
How aggressive is the pulsed section of= the=A0 tx cycle,?, I know there is some interest in using that facility for= study's on 500, but as yet I have not=A0 found the rise/fall and timing= parameters. dose it need to=A0 be a pulse or=A0 could a small frequency shi= ft be used if time is being measured ?
=A0
Tnx- G ..
=A0
=A0
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--001636c5b3146179de046475532a-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg05.mx.aol.com (rly-dg05.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.89]) by air-dg07.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDG071-5cb49ca34572e4; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 09:40:51 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg05.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG058-5cb49ca34572e4; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 09:40:40 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LmTKT-00080h-1v for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 13:39:37 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LmTKS-00080Y-MP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 13:39:36 +0000 Received: from mail.cz.gmc.net ([77.48.211.230]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LmTKP-0002DX-Sj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 13:39:36 +0000 Received: from Lenovo (192.168.100.32) by dove.gmc.net (192.168.40.18) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.1.358.0; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 14:38:49 +0100 Message-ID: From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Petr_Mal=FD?= To: Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 14:38:37 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: TDA2003, TDA2030 for PA? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00CD_01C9AD57.620A1E00" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_00CD_01C9AD57.620A1E00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, My intention is to build a small transmitter up to some 10W for 136 and 505=20= kHz, this time not the D class, but B or AB class. I think of employing AF amplifiers such as TDA2003, TDA2030, or similar. Of=20= course, mainly 505 kHz is rather out of range so that nothing is guaranteed.= This is why I ask before experimenting. Did anybody try to use these for 136/505 kHz? Tks, 73, Petr, OK!FIG http://ok1fig.nagano.cz ------=_NextPart_000_00CD_01C9AD57.620A1E00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi all,
 
My intention is to build a small transmitte= r up to=20 some 10W for 136 and 505 kHz, this time not the D class, but B or AB=20 class.
I think of employing AF amplifiers such as=20= TDA2003,=20 TDA2030, or similar. Of course, mainly 505 kHz is rather out of range so tha= t=20 nothing is guaranteed. This is why I ask before experimenting.
Did anybody try to use these for 136/505=20 kHz?
 
Tks, 73, Petr, OK!FIG
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_00CD_01C9AD57.620A1E00-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh11.mx.aol.com (rly-mh11.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.147]) by air-mh02.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMH023-61649b1d308291; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 20:51:22 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh11.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH113-61649b1d308291; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 20:51:07 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lflg3-00055A-03 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 01:50:11 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lflg2-000551-C1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 01:50:10 +0000 Received: from vivaldi.earthlight.co.nz ([202.36.170.8]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lflg0-0007Hk-SG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 01:50:10 +0000 Received: from www-data by vivaldi.earthlight.co.nz with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lflfu-0004b2-TO; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 14:50:02 +1300 Received: from 209.106.124.202.static.snap.net.nz ([202.124.106.209]) (SquirrelMail authenticated user andrewss) by webmail.earthlight.co.nz with HTTP; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 14:50:02 +1300 (NZDT) Message-ID: <1059.202.124.106.209.1236390602.squirrel@webmail.earthlight.co.nz> Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 14:50:02 +1300 (NZDT) From: To: X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Cc: X-Mailer: SquirrelMail (version 1.2.6) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: Removal from blcksheep.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hello Net master, could you please remove my lisiing on the rsgb_lf_group@ blacksheep.org bulletin board. Have made several attemps but do not seem to get the instructions correct..! Stan Andrews Zl4MB.. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma07.mx.aol.com (rly-ma07.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.51]) by air-ma02.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMA023-8be49b6f13b3bd; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 19:01:35 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma07.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA078-8be49b6f13b3bd; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 19:01:17 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LhAwV-0001Si-NG for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 23:00:59 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LhAwV-0001SZ-Cv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 23:00:59 +0000 Received: from smtp2-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.2]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LhAwT-0002RJ-KP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 23:00:59 +0000 Received: from smtp2-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp2-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id F262D4B00D5 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 00:00:54 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp2-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF38D4B007A for ; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 00:00:51 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <49B6F122.1070303@online.fr> Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 00:00:50 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <49B622B9.9070601@online.fr> In-Reply-To: X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 184khz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) R R Joe ! 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj jcraig@mun.ca a =E9crit : > Dear LF Group, > The TX will be off starting tonight to monitor G4JNT on 503.7 kHz. > 73 > Joe VO1NA > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc03.mx.aol.com (rly-dc03.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.32]) by air-dc02.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDC024-b0e49bfbaf32b2; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 11:00:50 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc03.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC032-b0e49bfbaf32b2; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 11:00:05 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LjalV-0003KZ-6d for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 14:59:37 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LjalU-0003KQ-Ny for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 14:59:36 +0000 Received: from psmtp13.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.25]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LjalR-0000fY-Qt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 14:59:36 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp13.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KGN00EE5OB1MS@psmtp13.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 15:59:26 +0100 (MET) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 15:59:22 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: XGJ 17-03.jpg Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_u1c4zFi8iRuo4syhoaJ28Q)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_u1c4zFi8iRuo4syhoaJ28Q) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_56hzzllJCP6zoF55vijx0g)" --Boundary_(ID_56hzzllJCP6zoF55vijx0g) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Hi Warren,LF capture XGJ Henny pa3cpm 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: XGJ 17-03.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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Hi Warren,LF
capture XGJ
Henny pa3cpm
73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
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owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Don't forget one thing though.... they contain mercury, and should not be disposed of in the trash.....73...Jordan VE6ZT ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roelof Bakker" To: Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 9:27 AM Subject: Re: LF: energy saving bulbs > Hello Peter, > > I have been using these for years now and never encountered a problem. > The best way to find out though is just buy one and test it! > > 73, > Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md09.mx.aol.com (rly-md09.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.147]) by air-md01.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD011-92449c3b176c; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 11:08:55 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by 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bh=h90taPhQyBDaK8HDp6tTzVLMcLUHWdJ1+xJuqAtT1eU=; b=l9m5OBixafkcC13BgcyAX7fV6Oe5c2miQYTv5hBDVtc3ZW0GJ0NlOQ/PZZC96InHCu YZNJs6lvkPWSFcOxyCkLxdU3j/lqmwwvPVgm9C997PZiXRGowD9PFTYq9nvv3fV3vAz7 QIuD14rIwWh+zp5rCZOMCqg6VFeDu515Nv1D8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=kZtxR3fQ01w2UylD8Xs1bLbtfvsRXC+OZ0rkhjwgJ2lU4CalOBffiYKAnmZxmmwXCv thoZTsekzBys8HumrNDLikM5kVa6pT/0w6zdXqqxd9hF6ECDNCgiQvdIRPkfFmjSR3da aBb/Zr4RwwRQMvm1I1vvJIRM/qV91MJMyt/Dk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.6.79 with SMTP id 15mr4281111qay.208.1237561644168; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 08:07:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 10:07:24 -0500 Message-ID: <57a24ca70903200807ifa605cdn507cbf25d2e003dc@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: Re: LF: xgj Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR, UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m231.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Victor, Excellent capture, thanks! -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 12:36 AM, wrote: > Hi Warren,lf > > best capture at 1:30z > > 73 > > Victor -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf02.mx.aol.com (rly-mf02.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.172]) by air-mf01.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMF012-94349b62673264; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 04:36:06 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf02.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF021-94349b62673264; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 04:36:04 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LgxRD-00012i-OR for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 08:35:47 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LgxRD-00012Z-Aj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 08:35:47 +0000 Received: from thsmsgxrt11p.thalesgroup.com ([192.54.144.134]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LgxRC-0005WC-MJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 08:35:47 +0000 Received: from thsmsgirt22p.corp.thales (unknown [10.33.231.6]) by thsmsgxrt11p.thalesgroup.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A185048897D for ; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 09:35:39 +0100 (CET) Received: from thsmsgiav11p.corp.thales (10.33.231.31) by thsmsgirt22p.corp.thales (8.5.103) id 4991947D002FA1BC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 09:35:39 +0100 Received: from (unknown [10.33.231.1]) by thsmsgiav11p.corp.thales with smtp id 30c4_3023_755b5ee8_0d55_11de_861e_001143d32df6; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 10:25:56 +0100 Received: from NODALNET.clb.tcfr.thales (unknown [10.33.8.19]) by thsmsgirt11p.corp.thales (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ACB9598049 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 09:35:39 +0100 (CET) Received: by nodalnet.clb.tcfr.thales with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 09:35:39 +0100 Message-ID: From: Jean-Louis.RAULT@fr.thalesgroup.com To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 09:35:38 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: RE: Re: energy saving bulbs Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 My two cents: Do NOT use the 16 watts version of the Philips SL E Pro model: these bulbs generate a LOT of noise (50 Hz comb broadband noise) at least on 137 kHz ... 73 de Jean-Louis From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md04.mx.aol.com (rly-md04.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.142]) by air-md09.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id 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ttsmtp.cpwnetworks.com with SMTP; 26 Mar 2009 18:43:05 +0000 Message-ID: <009601c9ae42$b3638c50$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <4A6AE023E8F54CDF9ABFC1DB78F176BA@DR2> <49CB60CE.7050807@charter.net> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 18:43:05 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WSPR tonight Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 100 km inland is insignificent and should make virtually no difference. Consult AA1A about how to improve your antenna system and receiving techniques. He can hear me every time I touch the KEY G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Andrews" To: Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 11:02 AM Subject: Re: LF: WSPR tonight > Dave Riley seems to have some advantage by being right at the coast. > Here at 100 km inland (due west), EU copy on 600M has been more > difficult. I started a WSPR session around 0130 last night, and got only > the following for the whole night: > > 090326 0436 3 -28 0.7 0.503881 M0BMU IO91 33 > 090326 0450 1 -29 0.8 0.503881 7DJ/4Q3ASX S9 > > The previous evening, I had nothing at all on G0BND between 2300 and > 0230, so things are looking up! > > John Andrews, W1TAG > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.28/2022 - Release Date: 03/25/09 07:16:00 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db03.mx.aol.com (rly-db03.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.78]) by air-db08.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDB084-ab349be5cb724; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 10:06:00 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db03.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB031-ab349be5cb724; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 10:05:45 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LjDR8-0004LL-Hv for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 14:05:02 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LjDR8-0004LC-3U for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 14:05:02 +0000 Received: from qw-out-1920.google.com ([74.125.92.149]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LjDR6-00026R-5q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 14:05:02 +0000 Received: by qw-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 4so1845768qwk.16 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 07:04:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=uzyx5EYE3PBYyzH0AZcxFpfswmGJok6QxbIposSsBsY=; b=K8j/20XJZ5Rgq8sjLdFqVSLdSC5K6/yIXi+DrbcoItYPkYKSudEKo0au/li0nuhitS qUqIFZgyd0kSlugivRhoU/gBQbyDwB+B2q+VD0HCmXaTS02yJcfpFf4+MQ5kdVsVrSy7 mb1dqd0wWvphUJK+DOaSQjdMHU5VjTVX1cFGM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=fmvoTzFpSawcxPX/h6fEUmSnH0bAgDg/HsnDHP2HtCnpSqNWCNpxEhxb+UVnDZMGFs XRKoEFkp7gNzLZj6yi6E7e2LeWgJkLIpamo0VHk/VcXIBW8r43FR0DpthXEqItMZL/EM nyh+catUZk5Ky2Ezn1r2xSteVFlicp3sGtz7w= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.45.204 with SMTP id g12mr5720526qaf.168.1237212298362; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 07:04:58 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <200903151858.47737.ve8rt@xplornet.com> References: <200903141634.37933.ve8rt@xplornet.com> <8bf118410903151024k69053f8cs345c4673ad93deec@mail.gmail.com> <200903151858.47737.ve8rt@xplornet.com> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 10:04:58 -0400 Message-ID: <57a24ca70903160704s1c191506u94d531226b6f9e9a@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Getting started, maybe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d248.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Ron, Not to throw a wet blanket over your ambitions, but it will be very challenging (to put it mildly) for you to hear 500kHz amateur activity. The nearest active stations are thousands of miles away and you are under the auroral oval which really does a good job absorbing MF/HF signals. Rudy in Oregon was the closest signal and that was over 2000kM away! You never know, you might pick up one of the big guns under ideal conditions but it's always good to have realistic expectations. - 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 8:58 PM, Ron Thompson wrote: > Hi Graham, > > =A0 =A0my actual location is at postal code X1A 2H5 > > =A0 =A0I'm in the company crew house at the float base. =A0In the Google m= ap for > the postal code, at the highest available satellite magnification, you sho= uld > see floatplanes along the parking lot and then in a cove on the upper side= of > the parking lot is a yellow Cessna floatplane. =A0The house just to the le= ft of > the floatplane is where I live. =A0Unfortunately, as the house is in the > floatbase parking lot, there isn't any antenna space around it. =A0What I=20= do > have is two 15 metre towers spaced about 48 metres apart that I use for my= HF > antenna (it used to have a company commercial HF antenna before). =A0Any L= F/MF > antenna must be compact and mountable either to the house or one of the > towers. =A0Power lines are between the house and cove, which may be a nois= e > source. > > =A0 =A0 =A0Ron > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da04.mx.aol.com (rly-da04.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.78]) by air-da07.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA072-a6249c524b02a2; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 13:32:54 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da04.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA042-a6249c524b02a2; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 13:32:33 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ll53c-0006uy-Vm for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 17:32:28 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ll53c-0006ug-4K for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 17:32:28 +0000 Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com ([209.85.146.183]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ll53a-0004Jj-Cv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 17:32:28 +0000 Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id l24so934890waf.4 for ; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 10:32:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=MIE+qO9KzsQLR5iWjarZ/0l+FEwteM2lO0q5QH8TD8Q=; b=BgeHvYaD/mc8HtQpTo904j6AHrVaG3rpR9PjHSrBB+Vse8wmjeX8BslhpuS77wSiuG 2aF/J/AqDY8p+LmOg8GP012Ou87AF84h+iuDgXTMe9rq/xB27n/gOiJ1800h7y4BhOu2 6DDE2+0svEFcIGTuikLPbv/ZII8L0K7AcyiQU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=QbRcEuMWHQaaknlB3FJe9zGG5iiN1rZTXKs+FcqgK1vhw1a8qD0Qi9acAt6o5egDRU 6IqVXERuUO3b7HW5qgPL1RGTQTI08Y0NpwV8i0Ne6vGoRM6w037SFKfXZHy62Bg4kPdn uZmcuDo452kDLiCUw2rpsny6+mmVESXrBxx5A= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.114.183.1 with SMTP id g1mr2889914waf.140.1237656744301; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 10:32:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <5931f8db0903200013t5985259dr1483addef93a27c0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 17:32:24 +0000 Message-ID: <5931f8db0903211032l119c192cvaa2a46174026b7@mail.gmail.com> From: Harry Woodhouse To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Subject: Re: LF: RE: 137 KHz reports please Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00163646ca829915470465a46a00 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_MESSAGE,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m211.1 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --00163646ca829915470465a46a00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Victor, Many thanks - nice to see my own signal! Lots of mains interference here on receive. Best 73s, Harry On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 11:39 AM, wrote: > Congrats Harry, > > nice signal in Utrecht > > 73 > > Victor > PA3FNY > JO22NC > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > *Van:* owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto: > owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]*Namens *Harry Woodhouse > *Verzonden:* vrijdag 20 maart 2009 8:14 > *Aan:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > *Onderwerp:* LF: 137 KHz reports please > > If I manage to get my temporary mast up in the wind, I hope to transmit CQ > tomorrow, Saturday 21st March with QRSS3 on 137.68KHz. > > --00163646ca829915470465a46a00 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Victor,
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Many thanks - nice t= o see my own signal! Lots of mains interference here on receive.=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0 Best 73s,=A0 Harry

On Sat, Mar 21,=20= 2009 at 11:39 AM, <victor13@online.nl> wrote:
Congrats Harry,=
= =A0
nice=20 signal in Utrecht
= =A0
73
= =A0
Victor
PA3FNY
JO22NC
-----Oors= pronkelijk bericht-----
Van:=20 ow= ner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens Harry=20 Woodhouse
Verzonden: vrijdag 20 maart 2009 8:14
Aan:=20 rsgb_lf_= group@blacksheep.org
Onderwerp: LF: 137 KHz reports=20 please

If I manage to get my temporary mast up in the=20 wind, I hope to transmit CQ tomorrow, Saturday 21st March with QRSS3 on=20 137.68KHz.


--00163646ca829915470465a46a00-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me02.mx.aol.com (rly-me02.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.35]) by air-me02.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME022-99e49ccf08e135; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 11:28:32 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me02.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME022-99e49ccf08e135; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 11:28:17 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LnDy1-00041d-IW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 15:27:33 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LnDy1-00041U-5b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 15:27:33 +0000 Received: from cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.43]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LnDy0-0008LR-5R for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 15:27:33 +0000 Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (smtpshost01.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.74]) by cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEB007B805E for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 16:27:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB96331E705 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 16:27:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.242.4]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id C094231E704 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 16:27:19 +0100 (CET) Received: by webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 939AA5BD2; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 16:27:20 +0100 (CET) Received: from 48.35-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (48.35-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [81.241.35.48]) by webmail4.kuleuven.be (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 16:27:20 +0100 Message-ID: <20090327162720.6et0xg2farr40g0c@webmail4.kuleuven.be> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 16:27:20 +0100 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <8bf118410903270647t5ebb0cedi82b96e2ea73075bd@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8bf118410903270647t5ebb0cedi82b96e2ea73075bd@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 81.241.35.48 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Lazy Man's CW made it to Venus and back Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Dave, If I got it right their ran 5kW into a 20m dish at 2.4GHz. The dish gain should be about 50dBd. 50dB =3D 100000 times power gain, thus ERP =3D +/- 500MW The distance to Venus (today) is 0.281 AU =3D 42 milion km =3D 26.1 milion m= iles Total distance is 82 milion km / 52.2 milion miles, what makes it +/- =20 0.1 miles per Watt. That value is not spectacular at all, but take into account that Venus =20 is a pretty bad reflector and the signal hasto go twice trough the =20 atmoshpere and ionospere. 73, Rik ON7YD Quoting Dave Pick : > How many miles per Watt is that?!! > > Dave 'YXM > > 2009/3/26 > >> Greetings everyone, >> >> Not really LF, but QRSS... >> >> A group of radio amateurs from AMSAT-DL has successfully transmitted a >> (very short) message in QRSS, consisting of the two letters "HI" (im >> memoriam of old OSCARS) to Venus on 2.4 GHz, and received the reflection. >> Each TX/RX over lasted for about 5 minutes (the travelling time). The >> transmitter was a 5 kW magnetron disciplined to a narrow-band transmitter= . >> Details on the AMSAT-DL website. The German HR TV will send a documentati= on >> tonight at 19:30 (local). The EVE (Earth-Venus-Earth) details follow >> tomorrow on Hessischer Rundfunk. >> >> 73, >> Wolf DL4YHF >> (from the IUZ in Bochum) >> >> >> >> >> >> #adBox3 {display:none;} >> >> >> > > > -- > G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK > Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (rly-ma08.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.52]) by air-ma06.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMA063-8c349ba1c11152; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 04:40:57 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA085-8c349ba1c11152; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 04:40:51 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Li2vd-0000cT-E6 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 08:39:41 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Li2vd-0000cK-3E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 08:39:41 +0000 Received: from pne-smtpout2-sn2.hy.skanova.net ([81.228.8.164]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Li2vb-00012b-8D for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 08:39:41 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (213.64.47.29) by pne-smtpout2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (7.3.129) (authenticated as u33233109) id 4873CA9503BBB80D for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 09:39:33 +0100 Message-ID: <49BA1BC6.6040507@telia.com> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 09:39:34 +0100 From: "Johan H. Bodin" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: About Loran Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Peter DF3LP found a *very* interesting 306 page doctoral thesis about LORAN-C here: http://www.pelgrum.org/radionavigation/ 73 Johan SM6LKM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md03.mx.aol.com (rly-md03.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.141]) by air-md10.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMD103-8f849afc8e425c; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 07:43:27 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md03.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD038-8f849afc8e425c; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 07:43:19 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LfCtv-0002jt-Ox for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 12:42:11 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LfCtv-0002jk-2v for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 12:42:11 +0000 Received: from qmta01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.16]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LfCtt-0006dc-IU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 12:42:10 +0000 Received: from OMTA08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.12]) by QMTA01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id PPfp1b0080Fqzac51Qi3Lb; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 12:42:03 +0000 Received: from JAYDELL ([65.96.107.144]) by OMTA08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id PQjH1b00536xPMd3UQjH5z; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 12:43:19 +0000 Message-ID: <000e01c99d8f$c82baf00$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> From: To: References: <8FA0F64CAE294E9681BFE4D22D1EB2D4@ns94d01ae4d850> Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 07:42:00 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: VO1NA in CT Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01C99D65.DE6C0A50" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C99D65.DE6C0A50 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Joe Several good partial sequences catured overnight. Appears ID is longer than the QSB cycle. 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Hi lf,
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<57a24ca70903180030s3d40c958l915bc13ec38218c6@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 137.780 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d286.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Willem, Thank you, interesting propagation with a strong peak! --=20 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 1:55 AM, Willem De Roode wrote: > =A0Hi Warren > Xgj 73s Willem pa3ego > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df10.mx.aol.com (rly-df10.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.23]) by air-df06.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDF063-57e49c97c1e181; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 20:34:57 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df10.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF101-57e49c97c1e181; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 20:34:41 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LmH4U-0004BU-Me for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 00:34:18 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LmH4U-0004BL-3g for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 00:34:18 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.151] helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LmH4S-0007IX-HK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 00:34:18 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3532.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 132601C00085 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 01:34:11 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.7.94]) by mwinf3532.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 8F4A81C00082 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 01:34:10 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20090325003410587.8F4A81C00082@mwinf3532.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: References: <864ED1778706409D9A640FF89C5F22C7@Silver> <35BC7A5BC84143BB916FEAA9FA0B67CF@AGB> <6F3FEF77C5114A42BB288377EFF89835@2a2d7ed321c6425> In-Reply-To: <6F3FEF77C5114A42BB288377EFF89835@2a2d7ed321c6425> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 00:34:09 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8064.206 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8064.206 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: Re: LF: AW: WSPR G0NBD 502.4 DIAL NOW TILL LATER POSS OVER NIGHT Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01CA_01C9ACE1.69C83F80" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE,LINES_OF_YELLING, LINES_OF_YELLING_2,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME,UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_01CA_01C9ACE1.69C83F80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tnx Gerhard=20 Same old problem with swr trip on pa ..wind and rain are changing the tune= ... causing pa to trip .. will run over night with reduced power ~ 100 watts feed=20 tnx- G .. From: Beckmann, Gerhard=20 Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 11:47 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: LF: AW: WSPR G0NBD 502.4 DIAL NOW TILL LATER POSS OVER NIGHT=20 =20 Hello Graham, =20 nice signal here in JN59LN =20 2338 -17 1.8 0.503980 -1 G0NBD IO83 13 =20 Vy 73 de Gerhard / DK6NI =20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =20 =20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blackshe= ep.org] Im Auftrag von Graham Gesendet: Dienstag, 24. M=E4rz 2009 23:35 An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Betreff: LF: WSPR G0NBD 502.4 DIAL NOW TILL LATER POSS OVER NIGHT=20 =20 Making hay while the sun (doesn't shine)=20 =20 G0NBD 502.4 DIAL NOW TILL LATER POSS OVER NIGHT=20 =20 Tnx- G .. =20 =20 =20 =20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.5.283 / Virus Database: 270.11.27/2021 - Release Date: 03/24/09 1= 6:00:00 ------=_NextPart_000_01CA_01C9ACE1.69C83F80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Tnx  Gerhard
 
Same old problem with  swr trip on pa=20= ..wind=20 and  rain are changing the tune ... causing pa to  trip=20 ..
will run over night  with  reduce= d power=20 ~ 100 watts feed
 
tnx- G ..
 

Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 11:47 PM
Subject: LF: AW: WSPR G0NBD 502.4 DIAL NOW TILL LATER POSS OVER=20 NIGHT

 

Hello=20 Graham,

 

nice sign= al=20 here in JN59LN

&n= bsp;

2338=20  -17  1.8   0.503980 -1 G0NBD IO83=20 13

&n= bsp;

Vy 73 de=20 Gerhard  /  DK6NI

&n= bsp;

=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

&n= bsp;

 

Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von = Graham
Gesendet: Di= enstag, 24. M=E4rz 2009=20 23:35
An: rsgb_lf_gro= up@blacksheep.org
Betreff: LF: WSPR G0NBD 502.4 DIAL NOW TILL=20 LATER POSS OVER NIGHT

 

Making =20 hay while the  sun (doesn't shine)

 

G0NBD=20 502.4 DIAL NOW TILL LATER POSS OVER NIGHT=20

 

Tnx-=20 G ..

 

 

 

 =


No virus found in this incoming message.
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------=_NextPart_000_01CA_01C9ACE1.69C83F80-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf04.mx.aol.com (rly-mf04.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.174]) by air-mf06.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMF062-95749c2bcdb14b; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 17:45:03 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf04.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF045-95749c2bcdb14b; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 17:45:01 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LkQ2M-00024n-81 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 21:44:26 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LkQ2L-00024e-TT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 21:44:25 +0000 Received: from smtp6-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.6]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LkQ2I-0001gH-Vm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 21:44:25 +0000 Received: from smtp6-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp6-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28BADE0807A for ; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 22:44:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp6-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE6F1E080E5 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 22:44:16 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <49C2BCB0.4010607@online.fr> Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 22:44:16 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <650F5744AD854ABD8276029657B4AB17@ns94d01ae4d850> In-Reply-To: <650F5744AD854ABD8276029657B4AB17@ns94d01ae4d850> X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: F6AFJ 19-03.jpg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Henny , TNX for capture , my call are F1AFJ not F6AFJ !!!! hi hi 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj henny van elst a =E9crit : > Hi Jean-Pierre and All, > strong signal 137khz > Henny pa3cpm > best 73s > Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzond= en: > F6AFJ 19-03.jpg > > Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen=20= het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controlee= r de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen w= orden afgehandeld. > > =20 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (rly-dd01.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.148]) by air-dd06.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDD062-b5849bf2e1c6b; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 00:59:11 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD012-b5849bf2e1c6b; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 00:59:10 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LjRNf-0000Ty-LW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 04:58:23 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LjRNf-0000Tp-38 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 04:58:23 +0000 Received: from smtprelay0009.hostedemail.com ([216.40.44.9] helo=smtprelay.hostedemail.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LjRNd-00082w-Dc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 04:58:23 +0000 Received: from filter.hostedemail.com (ff-bigip1 [10.5.19.254]) by smtprelay03.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with SMTP id B99553300C1 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 04:58:08 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Summary: 2,0,0,1a9e25860e4151d8,49f40f4b3f783a2d,ve8rt@xplornet.com,rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org,RULES_HIT:355:379:408:599:601:800:945:946:960:973:988:989:1260:1261:1277:1311:1312:1313:1314:1345:1359:1437:1513:1515:1516:1518:1519:1521:1534:1542:1593:1594:1595:1596:1711:1730:1747:1766:1792:2393:2551:2553:2559:2562:2693:2828:2916:3027:3294:3355:3622:3636:3865:3866:3867:3868:3869:3870:3871:3872:3873:3874:3876:3877:4250:4605:4649:5007:6114:6119:6997:7652:7754:7903:7904:7974:8501:9040,0,RBL:none,CacheIP:none,Bayesian:0.5,0.5,0.5,Netcheck:none,DomainCache:0,MSF:not bulk,SPF:fu,MSBL:none,DNSBL:none Received: from [192.168.1.103] (xplr-ts-v10-208-114-191-189.barrettxplore.com [208.114.191.189]) (Authenticated sender: ron.t@xplornet.com) by omf02.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 04:58:04 +0000 (UTC) From: Ron Thompson To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 22:57:52 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.4 References: <200903141634.37933.ve8rt@xplornet.com> <200903151858.47737.ve8rt@xplornet.com> <57a24ca70903160704s1c191506u94d531226b6f9e9a@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <57a24ca70903160704s1c191506u94d531226b6f9e9a@mail.gmail.com> Organization: ARS VE8RT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200903162257.53821.ve8rt@xplornet.com> X-session-marker: 726F6E2E744078706C6F726E65742E636F6D X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Getting started, maybe Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Warrren, and thanks to both Daves, Grahm and Mike. I've checked out the websites=20 suggested and may go ahead with a basic receiving set up. Non-directional=20 beacons on the MF band are still widely used here for enroute air navigation= =20 and would give me an idea of what propagation on the 600 metre band may be=20 like. What is the mode of propagation on 600 metres, primarily ground wave? Ho= w=20 much influence does space weather have on the MF band, does the band black=20 out like the HF bands? =20 another question, would there be any advantage to going lower, to the=20 137KHz band? Thanks, Ron On Monday 16 March 2009 08:04, Warren Ziegler wrote: > Ron, > > Not to throw a wet blanket over your ambitions, but it will be > very challenging (to put it mildly) for you to hear 500kHz amateur > activity. > The nearest active stations are thousands of miles away and you are > under the auroral oval which really does a good job absorbing MF/HF > signals. > Rudy in Oregon was the closest signal and that was over 2000kM away! > > You never know, you might pick up one of the big guns under ideal > conditions but it's always good to have realistic expectations. > - > 73 Warren K2ORS > WD2XGJ > WD2XSH/23 > WE2XEB/2 > WE2XGR/1 > > On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 8:58 PM, Ron Thompson wrote: > > Hi Graham, > > > > =A0 =A0my actual location is at postal code X1A 2H5 > > > > =A0 =A0I'm in the company crew house at the float base. =A0In the Google= map > > for the postal code, at the highest available satellite magnification, > > you should see floatplanes along the parking lot and then in a cove on > > the upper side of the parking lot is a yellow Cessna floatplane. =A0The > > house just to the left of the floatplane is where I live. =A0Unfortunate= ly, > > as the house is in the floatbase parking lot, there isn't any antenna > > space around it. =A0What I do have is two 15 metre towers spaced about 4= 8 > > metres apart that I use for my HF antenna (it used to have a company > > commercial HF antenna before). =A0Any LF/MF antenna must be compact and > > mountable either to the house or one of the towers. =A0Power lines are > > between the house and cove, which may be a noise source. > > > > =A0 =A0 =A0Ron --=20 Ron Thompson, VE8RT Yellowknife, NT, Canada 62 28.060 N 114 20.648 W Grid Square DP22tl "Who are are these that fly as a cloud, and as doves to their window?" Is 60= :8 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db06.mx.aol.com (rly-db06.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.81]) by air-db05.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDB052-ad249b05186226; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 17:26:26 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db06.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB068-ad249b05186226; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 17:26:15 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LfM0d-0002MI-Hq for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 22:25:43 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LfM0d-0002M9-0w for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 22:25:43 +0000 Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.44]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LfM0c-00048i-6F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 22:25:42 +0000 Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (smtpshost02.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.75]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D7C051C002 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 23:25:34 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 680FDF3863 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 23:25:34 +0100 (CET) Received: from webmail1.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (webmail1.cc.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.242.3]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D861F3862 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 23:25:34 +0100 (CET) Received: by webmail1.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 423D92C70; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 23:25:35 +0100 (CET) Received: from 250.43-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (250.43-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [81.241.43.250]) by webmail3.kuleuven.be (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 23:25:35 +0100 Message-ID: <20090305232535.w824u5fnf0isckok@webmail3.kuleuven.be> Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 23:25:35 +0100 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 81.241.43.250 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: weak signal on 502kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) I heard some replies to my CQ calls on 502kHz (5 March 22:00 - 22:20 UTC) but the signal was to weak to copy (also due to high QRN). Who called ? 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df08.mx.aol.com (rly-df08.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.21]) by air-df04.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDF043-56f49ca7275248; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 14:05:58 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df08.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF086-56f49ca7275248; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 14:05:43 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LmXTX-0001PE-LT for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 18:05:15 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LmXTX-0001P5-7s for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 18:05:15 +0000 Received: from smtp27.orange.fr ([80.12.242.96]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LmXTT-00026I-2P for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 18:05:15 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2721.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 6BDE11C000A0 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 19:05:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from JR (Mix-Dijon-106-3-228.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.248.130.228]) by mwinf2721.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 7A0431C00085 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 19:05:00 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20090325180500499.7A0431C00085@mwinf2721.orange.fr Message-ID: <200903251904390893.465D158C@smtp.wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <008c01c9ad63$4e9a9190$6401a8c0@asus> References: <86B4F549F8F247DDA470143B3BE77364@Hugh> <008c01c9ad63$4e9a9190$6401a8c0@asus> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (P) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 19:04:39 +0100 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: RE: Re: TDA2003, TDA2030 for PA? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 TDA2003 used for Heyphone on 87kHz. 73 John *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 25/03/2009 at 16:03 Gary - G4WGT wrote: >Hi Petr, > >I have tested a TDA2030 for a 500KHz driver & is OK for 136KHz as other >authors have stated. > >It does fall off very rapidly from 200KHz & higher & is of no use at >500KHz. > >73 > >Gary - G4WGT. > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Hugh_m0wye >Sent: 25 March 2009 15:01 >To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >Subject: LF: Re: TDA2003, TDA2030 for PA? > >I successfully made a TDA2030 amplifier which i used for all my intial=20 >experimenting on 137kHz >Photo http://www.m0wye.radiouk.com/lfamp.jpg >The data sheet for this IC claims a bandwidth of 140kHz so it won't work >on=20 >500kHz. >I think I got about 6Watts out. Not all the audio ICs have as much >bandwidth > >as this. >You need a matching circuit on the output to convert the low impedance of=20 >the amp to 50 ohms - or whatever your antenna system uses. >73 >Hugh M0WYE > > > > >----- Original Message -----=20 >From: "Petr Mal=FD" >To: >Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 1:38 PM >Subject: LF: TDA2003, TDA2030 for PA? > > >Hi all, > >My intention is to build a small transmitter up to some 10W for 136 and >505=20 >kHz, this time not the D class, but B or AB class. >I think of employing AF amplifiers such as TDA2003, TDA2030, or similar. >Of=20 >course, mainly 505 kHz is rather out of range so that nothing is >guaranteed. > >This is why I ask before experimenting. >Did anybody try to use these for 136/505 kHz? > >Tks, 73, Petr, OK!FIG >http://ok1fig.nagano.cz From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (rly-dd04.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.151]) by air-dd06.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDD062-b7049beb5581c6; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 16:24:21 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD042-b7049beb5581c6; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 16:23:54 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LjJLU-0005yT-Jw for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 20:23:36 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LjJLU-0005yK-7Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 20:23:36 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-1-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.52]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LjJLS-0001qd-CI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 20:23:36 +0000 X-Trace: 168374849/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.59.96/None/g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.59.96 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Microsoft Office Outlook 11Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AjYJAItRvklYajtg/2dsb2JhbACCJypTRIU5fYNcx1cHg3gG X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,374,1233532800"; d="scan'208,217";a="168374849" Received: from 88-106-59-96.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.59.96]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 16 Mar 2009 20:22:23 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF -RSGB LF Group" Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 20:22:23 -0000 Message-ID: <003a01c9a674$ea96fa70$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AcmmdOoaxQSPPKQlR+u9PNvljGqzgg== X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Beacon chart Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003B_01C9A674.EA96FA70" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01C9A674.EA96FA70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Graham & LF, I have upgraded the Grabber 3 page to show all the correct details with links to my normal home page & the other 2 grabbers. I trust Graham will be "A Happy Bunny" now. 73, Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01C9A674.EA96FA70 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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Hi Jean-Pierre and All,
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    Henny pa3cpm
best 73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
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21 Mar 2009 00:08:05 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lkokv-0002zs-2o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 00:08:05 +0000 Received: from [193.252.22.191] (helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lkokt-0005sm-9g for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 00:08:05 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3607.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id C1E427000084 for ; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 01:07:55 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.25.24]) by mwinf3607.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 71F237000081 for ; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 01:07:55 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20090321000755466.71F237000081@mwinf3607.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: References: <007501c9a883$81d23930$6401a8c0@asus> <635EBA8E954C46899275118E6892F9F3@AGB> In-Reply-To: <635EBA8E954C46899275118E6892F9F3@AGB> Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 00:07:54 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8064.206 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8064.206 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: 503.7 Beacon - Green slot- G0NBD - running now Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_006D_01C9A9B9.1531F810" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_006D_01C9A9B9.1531F810 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Expect run till 0115 , last ping 0115 + 6=20 tnx - G .. From: Graham=20 Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 3:43 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: LF: 503.7 Beacon - Green slot- G0NBD - running now 1345 hrs >=20 Hi All=20 Running at 25 watts (to ae) 5 second pulse in -5 min Green time slot ,=20= from about 1345 hrs to day Will increase power round 2200 hrs to 150 watt and run till past midnight ,= =20 (pa may trip in which case sig will be -14 dB lower .. till reset ) last beep 0100 Hrs may be 0115 ! Tnx - G ..=20 G0NBD IO83LK ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.21/2014 - Release Date: 03/20/09 0= 6:59:00 ------=_NextPart_000_006D_01C9A9B9.1531F810 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Expect run till  0115  , last pin= g =20 0115 + 6
 
tnx - G ..

From: Graham
Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 3:43 PM
Subject: LF: 503.7 Beacon - Green slot- G0NBD - running now 1345= hrs=20 >

Hi All
 
Running at 25 watts (to ae)  &nbs= p; 5=20 second pulse in  -5 min  Green time slot , from about 1345  h= rs=20 to day
 
Will increase power round 2200 hrs to=20= 150 watt=20 and run till  past midnight ,
 
(pa may trip in which case sig will be -14=20= dB lower=20 .. till reset )
 
last beep   0100 Hrs may be 0115 !
 
Tnx - G ..
 
G0NBD
IO83LK


No virus found in this incoming message.
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------=_NextPart_000_006D_01C9A9B9.1531F810-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de07.mx.aol.com (rly-de07.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.143]) by air-de02.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDE021-4ed49af1d87108; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 19:32:13 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de07.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE076-4ed49af1d87108; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 19:32:08 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lf1V6-0003ZI-SL for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 00:31:48 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lf1V6-0003Z9-Id for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 00:31:48 +0000 Received: from simone.ucs.mun.ca ([134.153.232.77]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lf1V5-0001GP-Jc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 00:31:48 +0000 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.232.153]) by simone.ucs.mun.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n250Vd35014712 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 21:01:39 -0330 Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 21:01:39 -0330 (NST) From: jcraig@mun.ca X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: blacksheep In-Reply-To: <8FA0F64CAE294E9681BFE4D22D1EB2D4@ns94d01ae4d850> Message-ID: References: <8FA0F64CAE294E9681BFE4D22D1EB2D4@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: QRV Again on 1600m Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Dear LF Group, The antenna wire is up again. 184.5093 kHz 10 watts 0.5 amps to 100m wire at 10m height. QRSS75 24/7 Reports most welcomed! 73 & GL Joe VO1NA From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma01.mx.aol.com (rly-ma01.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.44]) by air-ma03.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMA033-88849b1785d355; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 14:24:32 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma01.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA012-88849b1785d355; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 14:24:15 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lffdk-0008Oh-S2 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 19:23:24 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lffdk-0008OY-HM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 19:23:24 +0000 Received: from fwx.uvtc.net ([195.22.25.2] helo=uvtcmail.se) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lffdj-0001GV-N7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 19:23:24 +0000 Received: from radiorummet ([87.227.51.55]) by uvtcmail.se with MailEnable ESMTP; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 19:23:16 +0000 Message-ID: From: "Gus" To: Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 20:23:14 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 X-ME-Bayesian: 0.009904 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_FONT_BIG=0.256,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: LF: WSPR Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0015_01C99E99.60CF19E0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_FONT_BIG, HTML_MESSAGE,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C99E99.60CF19E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi LF, I will run WSPR beacon tonight,start 19:30 Z QRG 504,5 kHz (dial 503 kHz). P= ower 1 W erp. 73 de Gus SM6BHZ ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C99E99.60CF19E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi LF,
 
I will run WSPR beacon tonight,start 19:30 Z= QRG=20 504,5 kHz (dial 503 kHz). Power 1 W erp.
 
73 de Gus=20 SM6BHZ
------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C99E99.60CF19E0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc09.mx.aol.com (rly-dc09.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.38]) by air-dc08.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDC084-b4449b79c6c36b; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 07:11:59 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc09.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC098-b4449b79c6c36b; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 07:11:43 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LhMKg-0007bo-J0 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 11:10:42 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LhMKg-0007bf-53 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 11:10:42 +0000 Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.198.243]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LhMKe-0001kv-FF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 11:10:42 +0000 Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b17so2849100rvf.4 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 04:10:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=YykzjcCw6OrkW0FJhzXTwX6tN4tSIrECPTjDyVODpC0=; b=Mx9EpSPWtVW6KU+EnAYyphhU5RblFLjW0M0Kv2T2daURRNSonyQ3fG1PGaId8Zp2k2 wQ4j4T9ZezvCmINhYtCdwPoOjEzWZbVROPFDePsBp9WztDUOsWLvNdAm+a20cAPdsuh3 hxApSs7sRMJFRVO3mcSAwtZrx9Vh6phfY9k3M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=n4DcW9Xi02yK+hOEjEoZE5wxJ3pPeiSyrtDyKs6u3UGIfCrxKNhOxsAaowlXkTE3Vc zn7379O/ovlBqYboY2t8aJpuJM+8S5/a/nYepzCUAl89CEi/mHbq0MQdlg3wHF7AnCV/ KQeaHcBWr9eiXBDupjqaVj/mQrbtUCirrpXpc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.114.200.2 with SMTP id x2mr1329058waf.187.1236769838166; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 04:10:38 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 11:10:38 +0000 Message-ID: <5931f8db0903110410h410cd7c3k4fd09b74b8ae0ad5@mail.gmail.com> From: Harry Woodhouse To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_00_10=0.642,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 137KHz reports please Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636458000df73cc0464d5eab3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m273.1 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --001636458000df73cc0464d5eab3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I hope to transmit QRSS3 on 137.68 KHz on Saturday mornings March 21 & 28. Depends on weather here in Cornwall - I live on the coast and have to erect a temporary mast. Using Decca Tx from Isles of Scilly running 825 watts input to a Marconi T 230 feet long 30 feet up. Lazy Loop for Rx. Started on 72 KHz in 1998, reached well into Devon, but nobody there so no contacts! On 136 have only had QSOs with G3YXM, F6BWO, G3XDV & G3WCB. I am 79 and struggling! Would be delighted to make more contacts, but please be patient with me, I keep doing stupid things! Regards, Harry G3MFW --001636458000df73cc0464d5eab3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I hope to transmit QRSS3 on 137.68 KHz on Saturday mornings March 21 & 2= 8. Depends on weather here in Cornwall - I live on the coast and have to ere= ct a temporary mast. Using Decca Tx from Isles of Scilly running 825 watts i= nput to a Marconi T 230 feet long 30 feet up. Lazy Loop for Rx. Started on 7= 2 KHz in 1998, reached well into Devon, but nobody there so no contacts! On=20= 136 have only had QSOs with G3YXM, F6BWO, G3XDV & G3WCB. I am 79 and str= uggling! Would be delighted to make more contacts, but please be patient wit= h me, I keep doing stupid things!
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charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d291.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Thank you Markus, I saw the signal last night on your 'grabber --=20 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 3:12 PM, Markus Vester wrote: > Warren,=A0you were unusually strong here as well last midnight. 73 de Mark= us, > DF6NM > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (rly-dd02.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.149]) by air-dd05.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD054-b6249cd5e003c; 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boundary="-----------------------------1238195540" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 -------------------------------1238195540 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 Hello Marco nice reception also here of RU6LA. =20 =20 F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP RX : Icom IC7400 Ant: Wellbrook LFL 1010 _http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/_ (http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/)=20 =20 =20 Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 27/03/2009 23:33:08 Paris, Madrid, =20 marco.scholz@citi.com a =E9crit : Hello, I copy RU6LA on 137.700KHz calling Cq in QRSS3! Vy73 Marco DD7PC -------------------------------1238195540 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Marco nice reception also here of RU6LA.
 
 
F4DTL=20 Nicolas JN18FP

RX : Icom IC7400
Ant: Wellbrook LFL 1010

http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.ne= t/
 
 
Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 27/03/2009 23:33:08 Paris, Madrid,=20 marco.scholz@citi.com a =E9crit :
Hello,
I copy RU6LA on 137.700KHz calling Cq in=20 QRSS3!

Vy73
Marco
DD7PC

 
 -------------------------------1238195540-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de10.mx.aol.com (rly-de10.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.146]) by air-de05.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDE052-50a49cb977439b; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 10:56:07 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de10.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE105-50a49cb977439b; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 10:55:50 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lmqyg-00019j-V1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:54:42 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lmqyg-00019a-Hs for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:54:42 +0000 Received: from ttsmtp-2.cpwnetworks.com ([62.24.128.243] helo=ttsmtp.cpwnetworks.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lmqye-0005TK-8D for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:54:42 +0000 X-Path: TalkTalk-smtp X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhMGAK0zy0lcGcBt/2dsb2JhbACEP88xg3YG Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([92.25.192.109]) by ttsmtp.cpwnetworks.com with SMTP; 26 Mar 2009 14:53:32 +0000 Message-ID: <006301c9ae22$a1ce4220$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <4A6AE023E8F54CDF9ABFC1DB78F176BA@DR2> <49CB60CE.7050807@charter.net> <63B21C035B584FA68D28CB5FAE1589EB@DR2> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:53:30 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WSPR tonight Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dave You are talking about a large loop similar to what I use here and it performs vy well. Your power line could well be giving you some enhancement. Your reception on 500 khz seems well above all the others around and down the East coast. You can always copy my signals when the others are struggling or cannot hear or see my signal at all. 73 de mal/g3kev ----- Original Message ----- From: "dave.riley3" To: Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 11:59 AM Subject: Re: LF: WSPR tonight > After years at sea I never heard a 600M inland station, actually never > even > knew of one except for the Mississippi River stations WAY back... > > I am 3 miles inland and can tell you that car radio reception is weaker > here > with more QRN than being down by the water... > > What really helps is Bill Ashloop's antenna especially over very poor > conductivity ground and possibly the 23kv power lines that go down to the > beach in a NE direction probably adding some amount of Beverage effect... > > The odd DB or so from the directional properties of the loop also help > with > less noise arriving from the sides... > > No complaints... No ground radials, no hazardous voltages, no lossy > loading > coils, little e-noise on receive, no detuning during WX changes... > Just one piece of wire and one vacuum cap does it all... In fact it is > part > of the RFPA tank circuit here... ( no DC of course ) > > TNX > > Dave @ /17 > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Andrews" > To: > Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 7:02 AM > Subject: Re: LF: WSPR tonight > > >> Dave Riley seems to have some advantage by being right at the coast. Here >> at 100 km inland (due west), EU copy on 600M has been more difficult. I >> started a WSPR session around 0130 last night, and got only the following >> for the whole night: >> >> 090326 0436 3 -28 0.7 0.503881 M0BMU IO91 33 >> 090326 0450 1 -29 0.8 0.503881 7DJ/4Q3ASX S9 >> >> The previous evening, I had nothing at all on G0BND between 2300 and >> 0230, >> so things are looking up! >> >> John Andrews, W1TAG >> >> > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. 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You don't have to break the tube in doing this so its safe. =A0 It only takes about 10 minutes tops to remove and strip everything. Conserva= tively I reckon there is about =A35 of value to the average contructor in th= ere. Not bad for ten minutes work? =A0 Even the cleaned up CCT could be used like Vero at a push. =A0 Well thats my contribution to overcome these straitened times. =A0 73 Petefmt =A0 Plus the Tube still works and is a very good RF indicator on my 600m antenna= !! --- On Sun, 8/3/09, Peter Cleall wrote: From: Peter Cleall Subject: LF: energy saving bulbs To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sunday, 8 March, 2009, 2:53 PM For many years I have avoided using the energy saving bulbs under the impres= sion that they were major RF pollutents. I am under increasing pressure to m= ove to using these bulbs. =A0 =A0Are my concerns=A0still the case or are they old fashioned and out of dat= e. Do you have experience of using these bulbs in the home.=20 Do modern versions interfer with your Radio receiving , I am interested in s= ignals from 15 kHz to 500 MHz. Are there specific types or manufactures to be avoided Any thoughts would be appreciaated regards peter =A0 =20 --0-1872341988-1236619713=:53856 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable



Hi All GQRP/LF
 
What's an Energy Saving Lamp to you?
 
I'll tell you what .....Parts!!!!!!
 
9W Philips so called energy saving SFL
         
<= STRONG>Item <= U>Component
type		 <= U>Electrical
value		 U= nits Sp= ec
1 Resistor 5 Ohm 0.125W=
2 Resistor 5 Ohm 0.125W=
3 Resistor 1 Ohm 0.125W=
4 Resistor 700000 Ohm 0.125W=
5 Resistor 387000 Ohm 0.125W=
6 Resistor 48 Ohm 0.25W<= /TD>
7 Capacitor 100 nF Poly ?=
8 Capacitor 23 nF Poly ?=
9 Capacitor 2.3 nF Poly ?=
10 Capacitor 1.6 nF Poly ?=
11 Capacitor 2.2 Elec Micro F 350Vw<= /TD>
12 Inductor 2.795= mH Laminate  Core
13 Inductor 2.28<= /TD> mH Ferite Cylind= er
14 Inductor 131 (for 9T)= micro H Toroid R10 N3= 0
15 Transistor DK51<= /TD>   Unijuction De= vice
16 Transistor DK51<= /TD>   Unijuction De= vice
17 Diode= 1N4007 1000V - 1A Gen Purp Rect= ifier
18 Diode= 1N4008 1000V - 1A Gen Purp Rect= ifier
19 Diode= 1N4009 1000V - 1A Gen Purp Rect= ifier
20 Diode= 1N4010 1000V - 1A Gen Purp Rect= ifier
21 Diode= 1N4011 1000V - 1A Gen Purp Rect= ifier
22 Diode= 1N4012 1000V - 1A Gen Purp Rect= ifier
23 Diode= 1N4013 1000V - 1A Gen Purp Rect= ifier
24 Diode= !N4141<= /TD> Fast switch small signal det=
 
I cut one of these things up today and stripped it and measured all the= values. You don't have to break the tube in doing this so its safe.
 
It only takes about 10 minutes tops to remove and strip everything. Con= servatively I reckon there is about =A35 of value to the average contructor=20= in there. Not bad for ten minutes work?
 
Even the cleaned up CCT could be used like Vero at a push.
 
Well thats my contribution to overcome these straitened times.
 
73 Petefmt
 
Plus the Tube still works and is a very good RF indicator on my 600m an= tenna!!


--- On Sun, 8/3/09, Peter Cleall <peter.cleall@virgin.net> wrote:=

From: Peter Cleall <peter.cleall@virgin.net><= BR>Subject: LF: energy saving bulbs
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
D= ate: Sunday, 8 March, 2009, 2:53 PM

For many years I have avoided using the energy saving bulbs under the i= mpression that they were major RF pollutents. I am under increasing pressure= to move to using these bulbs.
 
 Are my concerns still the case or are they old fashioned and= out of date.
Do you have experience of using these bulbs in the home.
Do modern versions interfer with your Radio receiving , I am interested= in signals from 15 kHz to 500 MHz.
Are there specific types or manufactures to be avoided
Any thoughts would be appreciaated
regards
peter

 

=20 --0-1872341988-1236619713=:53856-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd06.mx.aol.com (rly-dd06.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.153]) by air-dd01.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD014-b8049cb6111343; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 07:03:55 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd06.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD062-b8049cb6111343; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 07:03:46 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LmnMq-00081q-ER for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 11:03:24 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LmnMq-00081h-3B for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 11:03:24 +0000 Received: from mta11.charter.net ([216.33.127.80]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LmnMn-0002FB-0m for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 11:03:23 +0000 Received: from imp09 ([10.20.200.9]) by mta11.charter.net (InterMail vM.7.09.01.00 201-2219-108-20080618) with ESMTP id <20090326110238.BVCV21265.mta11.charter.net@imp09> for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 07:02:38 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.2] ([66.189.74.84]) by imp09 with charter.net id Xn2e1b00A1p78xe05n2eYd; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 07:02:38 -0400 Message-ID: <49CB60CE.7050807@charter.net> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 07:02:38 -0400 From: John Andrews User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <4A6AE023E8F54CDF9ABFC1DB78F176BA@DR2> In-Reply-To: <4A6AE023E8F54CDF9ABFC1DB78F176BA@DR2> X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WSPR tonight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=LINES_OF_YELLING autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Dave Riley seems to have some advantage by being right at the coast. Here at 100 km inland (due west), EU copy on 600M has been more difficult. I started a WSPR session around 0130 last night, and got only the following for the whole night: 090326 0436 3 -28 0.7 0.503881 M0BMU IO91 33 090326 0450 1 -29 0.8 0.503881 7DJ/4Q3ASX S9 The previous evening, I had nothing at all on G0BND between 2300 and 0230, so things are looking up! John Andrews, W1TAG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg10.mx.aol.com (rly-dg10.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.94]) by air-dg02.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDG023-5f649c3b133366; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 11:07:35 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg10.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG101-5f649c3b133366; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 11:07:32 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LkgJC-0004cD-IU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 15:06:54 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LkgJC-0004c4-38 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 15:06:54 +0000 Received: from mail-qy0-f107.google.com ([209.85.221.107]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LkgJA-0000OE-NZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 15:06:54 +0000 Received: by qyk5 with SMTP id 5so1342727qyk.30 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 08:06:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=p7tnxm68jwDy8RTt61IpirXt+0UXo0nwysxvwIQwE40=; b=YC4dhsI7wMP7f8IhrZYiqAgyNaQZsdLljN4sf4p6luAHlL4jjYgscK2q3OJNh4kjiG YMC1Y3112sLZxdk6Ylv3++hQJ+mdtA3lQfMXURMxHh3JIPmLTphGbM/zGE8O0TS6K7l+ JgaFt5A+jdmmsoS5ykYnEFnK1UAy07GeB8Dg4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=bo/DNu8mLLev5B6YmK/l5rxlmJRVdsmB9QmcRtR6cOHGzfVETYyeIHrVIs47dQFR5g DrcXuPzJcHGYS0Ppc68PfFPWFYTE3Hn5uPoWeaME7gCBruliKDb9WbaOnhRBWiBWrJUa mdQtiT7WDvpdny7so5domnXRGcE1L6L3+U+5o= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.89.76 with SMTP id d12mr5667026qam.378.1237561605339; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 08:06:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 10:06:45 -0500 Message-ID: <57a24ca70903200806j20975111t2eae297d7555b7ac@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: Re: LF: XGJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d298.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Lubos, Thank you for the capture, conditions seem to be improving! --=20 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 2009/3/20 Lubos OK2BVG : > Hello Warren, LF! > I saw nice XGJ signal last night. > > Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS > > ________________________________ > St=E1hn=ECte si zcela nov=FD Messenger 2009! Klikni zde! From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc02.mx.aol.com (rly-dc02.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.31]) by air-dc08.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDC083-b0649a9df6d378; Sat, 28 Feb 2009 20:06:13 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc02.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC022-b0649a9df6d378; Sat, 28 Feb 2009 20:05:50 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lda7W-000182-2s for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 01:05:30 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lda7V-00017t-AU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 01:05:29 +0000 Received: from telium-3.telium.com.br ([200.155.160.75]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lda7S-0001Pb-SX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 01:05:29 +0000 Received: (qmail 14812 invoked from network); 1 Mar 2009 01:05:05 -0000 Received: from ip-189-96-96-185.user.vivozap.com.br (HELO DuoLaptop) (py2pll@py.qsl.br@[189.96.96.185]) (envelope-sender ) by telium-3.telium.com.br (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 1 Mar 2009 01:05:05 -0000 X-C3Mail-ID: 1235869505464242 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 8.0.237 [270.11.5/1977]); Sat, 28 Feb 2009 22:05:03 -0300 Message-ID: From: "PY2PLL" To: "RSGB LF Group" References: <49A91070.9040902@freenet.de> In-Reply-To: <49A91070.9040902@freenet.de> Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 22:04:48 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 X-Remote-IP: 189.96.96.185 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: "Silence of the Lamps", etc Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=======AVGMAIL-49A9DF400000=======" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=MIME_MISSING_BOUNDARY, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --=======AVGMAIL-49A9DF400000======= Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="ISO-8859-15"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi ... > > On the same website, there is also an article about a varctor tuned loop > antenna, where the author found the "Q" of the resonant antenna was > higher when tuned with varactor diodes, than with an air variable > capacitor (?!) : > > http://brneurosci.org/loopantenna.html > NTE618s are rare down here but I have some for testing. Actually I'm building a regular MW loop for external mount (rotor oriented, remotely tunned, 12AT7 tube as a balanced buffer, etc) and I'm using this event to test some parts: the 12AT7 cathode folower versus a 2xJ310 one, tunning element (NTE6128 X air variable X cheap film insulated MW radio variables). I don't want to use the traditional pick up loop ... a 10 turn antena X 1 turn coupling loop will present to receiver a Z between 100K <> 1Mohm! On my configuration, I'm picking up RF signals using those Hi-Z buffers right from the coil ends, e.g the places where tunnig elements are connected. And I'm doing some real measurements using local AM pests using a W&G SPM33 SLM. The first results shows that when NTE618 is used the received signals drops 12dB average when compared to an air variable capacitor. As expected. Ok, there's a lot of signal anyway, with 618 or air variable, it's simpler to use varicaps to remote tunning but ... I want the 12AT7 + air variable there :-) Diagrams + photos (texts in portuguese for a while, sorry) Theory + table comparing components expected thermal noise: http://py.qsl.br/loop_om.htm Tube Buffer = http://py.qsl.br/om_buffer.htm J310 buffer = http://py.qsl.br/a_pratica.htm 73 Marcus Ramos PY3CRX/PY2PLL Săo Bernardo do Campo - SP http://py.qsl.br --=======AVGMAIL-49A9DF400000======= Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=======AVGMAIL-49A9DF400000=======" --=======AVGMAIL-49A9DF400000=======-- --=======AVGMAIL-49A9DF400000======= Content-Type: text/plain; x-avg=cert; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Content-Description: "AVG certification" Nenhum v=EDrus encontrado nessa mensagem enviada. Verificado por AVG - www.avgbrasil.com.br=20 Vers=E3o: 8.0.237 / Banco de dados de v=EDrus: 270.11.5/1977 - Data de Lan= =E7amento: 02/28/09 17:21:00 --=======AVGMAIL-49A9DF400000=======-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db07.mx.aol.com (rly-db07.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.82]) by air-db07.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDB074-ad349aae44f14b; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 14:38:59 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db07.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB071-ad349aae44f14b; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 14:38:57 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LdrUd-0007bl-BY for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 19:38:31 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LdrUc-0007bc-Tb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 19:38:30 +0000 Received: from vms173005pub.verizon.net ([206.46.173.5]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LdrUb-0004VR-PP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 19:38:30 +0000 Received: from DR2 ([71.184.212.10]) by vms173005.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KFU00708EJDLR72@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 13:38:02 -0600 (CST) Message-id: From: "dave.riley3" To: Cc: "600MRG" References: <000a01c99a91$a54a1180$1402a8c0@e7010> <143887676.20090301200818@web.de> Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 14:38:01 -0500 MIME-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36 Subject: Re: LF: WSPR on 600m Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-15; reply-type=original Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 We're on the case here in the colonies, Walter... Check 0.505090 See you @ http://wsprnet.org/meptspots.php?mode=html&band=2190&limit=50&findcall=&findreporter=&sort=date Dave @ WD2XSH/17 = Dear All on MF, DI2AG will transmit WSPR tonight. Beginning 18UTC, ending 7UTC. Dial frequency 503.6KHz, beacon on 505.090KHz. Power 1W ERP. Reports welcome. Please report on WSPRnet.org or this reflector. 73 Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma06.mx.aol.com (rly-ma06.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.50]) by air-ma08.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMA081-8af49ce8c39326; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 16:45:01 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma06.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA061-8af49ce8c39326; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 16:44:42 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LnfNe-0001H0-2f for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 20:43:50 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LnfNd-0001Gr-Nd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 20:43:49 +0000 Received: from mailout.toya.net.pl ([217.113.224.27] ident=postfix) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LnfNb-0003Gv-DQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 20:43:49 +0000 Received: from localhost (unknown [192.168.120.26]) by lazir.toya.net.pl (TOYAnet MailServer) with ESMTP id 1B4498C1E2 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 21:43:16 +0100 (CET) X-TOYA-AV: AntyVir-Skaner at toya.net.pl Received: from lazir.toya.net.pl ([192.168.120.25]) by localhost (antyvir.toya.net.pl [192.168.120.26]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4C1cYc336MwU for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 21:43:16 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.11.178.152] (lazir [217.113.224.3]) (Authenticated sender: unimlyn) by lazir.toya.net.pl (TOYAnet MailServer) with ESMTP id D8A7C8BF67 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 21:43:15 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <49CE8BE3.6040409@toya.net.pl> Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 21:43:15 +0100 From: =?UTF-8?B?UGlvdHIgTcWCeW5hcnNraQ==?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <49CBF051.9090707@usa.net> <49CBFB9E.9040903@usa.net> <49CC0310.3040808@telia.com> <200903270850420424.4E77B52F@smtp.wanadoo.fr> <007201c9afda$c31fc3e0$6501a8c0@TORRE> <20090328194025.227840@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <20090328194025.227840@gmx.net> X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Lazy Man's CW made it to Venus and back Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Dennis wrote: >Hi! >May be ;) off topic, but to enrich your collection: > >German: Perlen vor die S=C3=A4ue (werfen). >Polish: (Rzucic/rzucac) perly przed wieprze. > >73 >Dennis=20 >DL6NVC > > > =20 > Hi Dennis, LF i am impressed! it was a perfect polish language - not even a single=20 mistake... :) 73 to all de peter , sq7mpj qth: lodz, poland/jo91rs/ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd06.mx.aol.com (rly-dd06.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.153]) by air-dd03.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDD031-b8549b5123a29c; Mon, 09 Mar 2009 08:57:47 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd06.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD067-b8549b5123a29c; Mon, 09 Mar 2009 08:57:33 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lgf2E-0005GC-NQ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Mar 2009 12:56:46 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lgf2E-0005G3-8J for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Mar 2009 12:56:46 +0000 Received: from relay.ptn-ipout02.plus.net ([212.159.7.36]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lgf2D-0004zG-5Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Mar 2009 12:56:46 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AsMOAIOutEnUnw4S/2dsb2JhbACBSIhSg1fDLIQFBg Received: from pih-relay05.plus.net ([212.159.14.18]) by relay.ptn-ipout02.plus.net with ESMTP; 09 Mar 2009 12:56:39 +0000 Received: from [212.159.90.113] (helo=Hugh) by pih-relay05.plus.net with smtp (Exim) id 1Lgevb-0002ay-T1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Mar 2009 12:49:56 +0000 Message-ID: <074DB78DC81E4354B8D9F4645D7E2A42@Hugh> From: "Hugh_m0wye" To: References: <1794381892.23372.1236524009509.JavaMail.mail@webmail03> <007f01c9a004$97057380$0900a8c0@AM> Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 12:49:35 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Plusnet-Relay: 6e7ae458368700926ccda862ca36b714 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36 Subject: LF: Re: Re: energy saving bulbs Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Peter and group, I don't know if this contributes to the original discussion, but I found this table which shows the relative efficencies of different types of lamp: The original is here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luminous_efficacy#Lighting_efficiency Note the wide range of efficiency for LED lamps - some are worse than incandescent ! I have found some Compact fluorescent lamps radiate. They all have an "electronic ballast circuit" which chops the mains and very little room for any filtering. Their frequency wanders. But some are worse than others. Alan is right about strip lights which are efficient light producers and, with conventional inductive ballast, are usually RF-quiet. Category Type Overall luminous efficacy (lm/W) Overall luminous efficiency[3] Combustion candle 0.3 [6] 0.04% gas mantle 2 [7] 0.3% Incandescent 100 W tungsten incandescent (220 V) 13.8 [8] 2.0% 200 W tungsten incandescent (220 V) 15.2 [9] 2.2% 100 W tungsten glass halogen (220 V) 16.7 [10] 2.4% 200 W tungsten glass halogen (220 V) 17.6 [9] 2.6% 500 W tungsten glass halogen (220 V) 19.8 [9] 2.9% 5 W tungsten incandescent (120 V) 5 0.7% 40 W tungsten incandescent (120 V) 12.6 [11] 1.9% 100 W tungsten incandescent (120 V) 17.5 [11] 2.6% 2.6 W tungsten glass halogen (5.2 V) 19.2 [12] 2.8% quartz halogen (12–24 V) 24 3.5% photographic and projection lamps 35 [13] 5.1% Light-emitting diode white LED 10–100 [14][15][16] 1.5–15% Arc lamp xenon arc lamp 30–50 [17][18] 4.4–7.3% mercury-xenon arc lamp 50–55 [17] 7.3–8.0% Fluorescent 9–26 W compact fluorescent 57–72 [19][20] 8–11% T12 tube with magnetic ballast 60 [21] 9% T5 tube 70–100 [22] 10–15% T8 tube with electronic ballast 80–100 [21] 12–15% Gas discharge 1400 W sulfur lamp 100 15% metal halide lamp 65–115 [23] 9.5–17% high pressure sodium lamp 85–150 [24][9] 12–22% low pressure sodium lamp 100–200 [24][25][9] 15–29% Theoretical maximum Green light at 555 nm 683.002 100% 73 Hugh M0WYE ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Melia" To: Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 3:42 PM Subject: LF: Re: energy saving bulbs > Peter some do and some dont. I have found the Osram bad and the Philips > best > so far. There are a number of other things to think about too. > One, in normal replacement for tungten Fil they do NOT last 10,000 hours. > The reason seems to be that in a normal vertical hanging fitting the > connector end of the assembly get very hot....... this bit of course > contains the electronics which get unreliable with increasing temperature. > Bulb life test on fil bulbs is traditionally done the "other way up" for > ease of loading....so maybe this was not spotted. > They take several 10s of seconds to reach usable brightness....longer than > tuble starters. No good for short spells of activity as they are only > becomming usable when they are switched off. > They do contain mercury, albeit a small amount. > They should not be used in reading lamps which come close to the face as > there is a signigicant UV content. > I have just been using one in a bedside lamp and after a couple of days > relised I could smell a similar smell to that close to a Xerox > machine.....yes the lamp was pproducing sufficient ozone to significantly > irritate the nostrils. > > I have a large stock of filament lamps!! but I use tube fluorescents for > main lighting which are even more efficient in terms of light for energy > (no > a lot of "greenies" or lamp manufacturers admit that, and my tube > fluorescents are radio quiet for antennas outside the house. I have > relagated the CFLs to outside lighting fittings, which I occasionally > forget > to switch off!! > > The tale that filament lamps are inefficient is a myth !! All the energy > fed > to the bulb is converted into radiation ! some is light and some is > heat.....a CLF just produces less heat and more light and more polution! > > Alan G3NYK > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter Cleall" > To: > Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 2:53 PM > Subject: LF: energy saving bulbs > > >> For many years I have avoided using the energy saving bulbs under the > impression that they were major RF pollutents. I am under increasing > pressure to move to using these bulbs. >> >> >> >> Are my concerns still the case or are they old fashioned and out of > date. >> >> Do you have experience of using these bulbs in the home. >> >> Do modern versions interfer with your Radio receiving , I am interested > in signals from 15 kHz to 500 MHz. >> >> Are there specific types or manufactures to be avoided >> >> Any thoughts would be appreciaated >> >> regards >> >> peter >> >> >> >> >> > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (rly-ma08.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.52]) by air-ma08.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMA084-8bf49c1572422b; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 16:19:15 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA081-8bf49c1572422b; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 16:18:47 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lk2Do-0001wX-M3 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 20:18:40 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lk2Do-0001wO-Aj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 20:18:40 +0000 Received: from bay0-omc3-s40.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.240]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lk2Dm-0000wa-PY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 20:18:40 +0000 Received: from BAY101-W51 ([64.4.56.151]) by bay0-omc3-s40.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 18 Mar 2009 13:18:08 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [212.4.140.33] From: Lubos OK2BVG To: Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:18:07 +0100 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Mar 2009 20:18:08.0411 (UTC) FILETIME=[A722B6B0:01C9A806] X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_93ec5877-c1ca-4e4c-9e61-7391d9695f09_" Subject: LF: AFJ X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_93ec5877-c1ca-4e4c-9e61-7391d9695f09_ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_fcead2db-887b-48c7-8acd-b82dd2f47342_" --_fcead2db-887b-48c7-8acd-b82dd2f47342_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Jean-Pierre, LF! I just see your signal. FB! Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS _________________________________________________________________ Pozvi sv=E9 p=F8=E1tele z Facebooku a Hotmailu do Messengeru! https://www.invite2messenger.net/Default.aspx=3D --_fcead2db-887b-48c7-8acd-b82dd2f47342_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Jean-Pierre, LF!
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+0000 Received: from [80.12.242.27] (helo=smtp20.orange.fr) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ln6qM-0007C9-2r for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 07:51:12 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2011.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 9B2CC20000B2 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 08:51:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from JR (Mix-Dijon-106-3-129.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.248.130.129]) by mwinf2011.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 8F097200004E for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 08:51:00 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20090327075101586.8F097200004E@mwinf2011.orange.fr Message-ID: <200903270850420424.4E77B52F@smtp.wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <49CC0310.3040808@telia.com> References: <49CBF051.9090707@usa.net> <49CBFB9E.9040903@usa.net> <49CC0310.3040808@telia.com> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (P) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 08:50:42 +0100 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Lazy Man's CW made it to Venus and back Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 On 26/03/2009 at 23:34 Johan H. Bodin wrote: >I didn't know it was an English saying/proverb! The swedish translation >"Kasta p=E4rlor f=F6r svinen" is sometimes used in similar circumstances... Very close. The English version has the same origins as Swedish "Casting pe= arls before swine". 73 John F5VLF From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me01.mx.aol.com (rly-me01.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.34]) by air-me04.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINME043-99549b3e7a82; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 11:43:52 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me01.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME011-99549b3e7a82; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 11:43:38 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LgL9n-0006nU-AX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 15:43:15 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LgL9m-0006nL-Jm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 15:43:14 +0000 Received: from smtp813.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.73]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LgL9l-0007Xf-RI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 15:43:14 +0000 Received: (qmail 24459 invoked from network); 8 Mar 2009 15:43:08 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=pvK/CeGN2qLnhuaeCw9DYl3A/7rzfEc+3mUdf8ByoGzu3/sO6S03hn6BW1YK9M/3HHV6lFOaq1/QsNgf2vvZ8jLzQsR3V2eJSSgBGbmCOUEyfZo79X8M8JoghSbT2l37M13OfiQtMgLJlRLSfWzmrHIdO3332erzY44ejtSGQIw= ; Received: from unknown (HELO Lark) (alan.melia@213.122.15.93 with login) by smtp813.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Mar 2009 15:43:07 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 1JLNUZcVM1njFSMNTeJrZN.8E1ygeXIynLaJV80zAqxIE0Vx33Hhc_lZxoc4yXXlG.8EHfk93Om9_S7HlnpBRJp84DGkr2WoXAvCDF1mAQYQ7MolOm_8QeN5.no_0ILeoztKJ2l6wJ3kcfGv6D9bnytUe0b65XLTYWqKHmVhJgvA6RlT..vZZiYiELpInZtRWMzyaVi5D2zwvgZwODkXv8RfKcnG7A-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <007f01c9a004$97057380$0900a8c0@AM> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <1794381892.23372.1236524009509.JavaMail.mail@webmail03> Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 15:42:14 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: energy saving bulbs Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Peter some do and some dont. I have found the Osram bad and the Philips best so far. There are a number of other things to think about too. One, in normal replacement for tungten Fil they do NOT last 10,000 hours. The reason seems to be that in a normal vertical hanging fitting the connector end of the assembly get very hot....... this bit of course contains the electronics which get unreliable with increasing temperature. Bulb life test on fil bulbs is traditionally done the "other way up" for ease of loading....so maybe this was not spotted. They take several 10s of seconds to reach usable brightness....longer than tuble starters. No good for short spells of activity as they are only becomming usable when they are switched off. They do contain mercury, albeit a small amount. They should not be used in reading lamps which come close to the face as there is a signigicant UV content. I have just been using one in a bedside lamp and after a couple of days relised I could smell a similar smell to that close to a Xerox machine.....yes the lamp was pproducing sufficient ozone to significantly irritate the nostrils. I have a large stock of filament lamps!! but I use tube fluorescents for main lighting which are even more efficient in terms of light for energy (no a lot of "greenies" or lamp manufacturers admit that, and my tube fluorescents are radio quiet for antennas outside the house. I have relagated the CFLs to outside lighting fittings, which I occasionally forget to switch off!! The tale that filament lamps are inefficient is a myth !! All the energy fed to the bulb is converted into radiation ! some is light and some is heat.....a CLF just produces less heat and more light and more polution! Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Cleall" To: Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 2:53 PM Subject: LF: energy saving bulbs > For many years I have avoided using the energy saving bulbs under the impression that they were major RF pollutents. I am under increasing pressure to move to using these bulbs. > > > > Are my concerns still the case or are they old fashioned and out of date. > > Do you have experience of using these bulbs in the home. > > Do modern versions interfer with your Radio receiving , I am interested in signals from 15 kHz to 500 MHz. > > Are there specific types or manufactures to be avoided > > Any thoughts would be appreciaated > > regards > > peter > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df02.mx.aol.com (rly-df02.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.15]) by air-df01.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDF013-53049ccf8cd145; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 12:03:44 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df02.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF023-53049ccf8cd145; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 12:03:26 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LnEW2-0004Pz-TC for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 16:02:42 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LnEW2-0004Pq-I4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 16:02:42 +0000 Received: from mailout.toya.net.pl ([217.113.224.27] ident=postfix) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LnEW0-0000Gw-Hf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 16:02:42 +0000 Received: from localhost (unknown [192.168.120.26]) by lazir.toya.net.pl (TOYAnet MailServer) with ESMTP id EF0F28C314 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 17:02:37 +0100 (CET) X-TOYA-AV: AntyVir-Skaner at toya.net.pl Received: from lazir.toya.net.pl ([192.168.120.25]) by localhost (antyvir.toya.net.pl [192.168.120.26]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id un0B2imyV48k for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 17:02:37 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.11.178.152] (lazir [217.113.224.3]) (Authenticated sender: unimlyn) by lazir.toya.net.pl (TOYAnet MailServer) with ESMTP id AC1E98BF70 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 17:02:37 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <49CCF89D.4030408@toya.net.pl> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 17:02:37 +0100 From: =?UTF-8?B?UGlvdHIgTcWCeW5hcnNraQ==?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <8bf118410903270647t5ebb0cedi82b96e2ea73075bd@mail.gmail.com> <20090327162720.6et0xg2farr40g0c@webmail4.kuleuven.be> In-Reply-To: <20090327162720.6et0xg2farr40g0c@webmail4.kuleuven.be> X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Lazy Man's CW made it to Venus and back Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Rik Strobbe wrote: > Dave, > > If I got it right their ran 5kW into a 20m dish at 2.4GHz. > The dish gain should be about 50dBd. > 50dB = 100000 times Dave, Rick, LF sorry , i was too quick and 'forgot ' abt the gain .. so divide my estimate 18000 km/watt by 10^5 and you end up with 0.18 km/watt 73, peter, sq7mpj qth; 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boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0081_01C9A726.019026F0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.1 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_40_50, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0081_01C9A726.019026F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message -----=20 From: dave.riley3=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 5:26 PM Subject: Re: LF: RE: Who's playing on 503.7 Last night the RED station slot was the winner with three definite big bum= ps right where they should be @ 30 secs... One was within 2 DBs of a frequency readout... ( count as decode ?? ) Both DI2AM and SM6BHZ were coming in nicely while the sun was still up... Fairly quiet background noise... Will set the traps again tonight... I find that using USB is better than expected: eg: 503.000 USB=20 1. Can tune ARGO Tone freq as desired across the band.. 2180 for DI2AM 2. WSPR parks there nicely.. 1500 for SM6BHZ 3. Beacon S/W has the luxury of changing tone frequency... In this case 70= 0hz. for G4JNT Thus allowing for many monitors in one passband...=20 At this rate the CPU was only 20% busy... Now to figure out how to use I/Q or baseband of Spectravue output to run i= n to the various programs... Next bridge to cross... 73s from Dave ( in the colonies ) ------=_NextPart_000_0081_01C9A726.019026F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 dave.riley3
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 5:26=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: RE: Who's playing=20= on=20 503.7

Last night the RED station slot was the winner= with=20 three definite big bumps right where they should be @ 30=20 secs...
 
One was within 2 DBs of a frequency readout...= (=20 count as decode ?? )
 
Both DI2AM and SM6BHZ were coming in nicely wh= ile=20 the sun was still up...
Fairly quiet background=20 noise...
 
Will set the traps again=20 tonight...
 
I find that using USB is better than=20 expected:
 
eg: 503.000 USB 
 
1. Can tune ARGO Tone freq as desired across t= he=20 band.. 2180 for DI2AM
2. WSPR parks there nicely..  1500 for=20 SM6BHZ
3. Beacon S/W has the luxury of changing tone=20 frequency... In this case 700hz. for G4JNT
 
Thus allowing for many monitors in one passban= d...=20
At this rate the CPU was only 20%=20 busy...
 
Now to figure out how to use I/Q or baseband o= f=20 Spectravue output to run in to the various=20 programs...
Next bridge to cross...
 
73s from Dave ( in the colonies=20 )
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0081_01C9A726.019026F0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf03.mx.aol.com (rly-mf03.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.173]) by air-mf07.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMF072-95149bfda3e322; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 13:13:48 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf03.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF037-95149bfda3e322; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 13:13:35 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ljcr2-0004GU-HM for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 17:13:28 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ljcr2-0004GL-5c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 17:13:28 +0000 Received: from qw-out-1920.google.com ([74.125.92.146]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ljcr0-0001JT-Er for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 17:13:28 +0000 Received: by qw-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 5so97182qwc.16 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 10:13:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=0TwSQchEIhPf27S0AKVByldsxt48AQh/PajbZXHgBv0=; b=DfVd9oXCzmOsfg+my8Mkz67zs4lVTMGhn4UIhWyiRKJvnAtPtn5vSdMv6wMcRSEvwI 3JwuzUV/5P32mzrsmvafgvqfC91yi/zBwu0n5Vq947H3S274WNORjYfnQyym46mu+pm+ bkHA5Dct38PsGF3vM5SIDhNNhabai2aziOlLA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=f1pK/jrMZdQJBxkpoTv9yHgjNFLW6eGabeyDFFSPYZNuGQqY9NV7BlshoyxV6T8LB8 o+E2KhuVn2XeJKvihKGESe03JEX36Jx2rxi5LO4gA/LwYLpJVfd6lZvAmTrAiomXnyfQ mcT3dbhPATGF3v/n7MXikpqTG5h3AiOdNH7bI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.11.71 with SMTP id s7mr481655qas.51.1237310006203; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 10:13:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 12:13:26 -0500 Message-ID: <57a24ca70903171013l86becb8lbb3f817fbcef1d79@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: XGJ 17-03.jpg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m244.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Tnx Henny! -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 2009/3/17 henny van elst : > Hi Warren,LF > capture XGJ > Henny pa3cpm > 73s > Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden > verzonden: > XGJ 17-03.jpg > > Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen > het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. > Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe > bijlagen worden afgehandeld. -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db05.mx.aol.com (rly-db05.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.80]) by air-db01.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDB013-ac549b012e12eb; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 12:59:11 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db05.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB053-ac549b012e12eb; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 12:58:59 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LfHq5-0007GF-I2 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 17:58:33 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LfHq5-0007G6-6J for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 17:58:33 +0000 Received: from mail-fx0-f174.google.com ([209.85.220.174]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LfHq3-0002j2-IC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 17:58:33 +0000 Received: by fxm22 with SMTP id 22so52011fxm.4 for ; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 09:58:25 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ReUdlCDrtCUGpzMJ6zwFe/BbV/9TFkU7KdC+NG3NB2I=; b=JUBD9/06bncG4E6OsQq5pdoUbryv+TEND+2Ap8qebDbnq0ILOsB5v7HUtId0WBq3t+ TZ7jyEltnqjhNjokux4JXxTaWaCgvds9RgZbX4Vhm1I4siHi6gnhJ9TWvdlXZD756Jdp k7y0rtxT4h8auRU8xKBwUqWLhCHloqVRVyp7s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=C8Rit6+VjEVlnZYXb8QrNOcFI+UDkR1Vbg5PaGIZAFjWdJUBmYpahydbaAXAO0C0Tg FqGzPLSS3l7ebWeuA90jFqwcNdSUjKvOapoaeH2cXll++RfkkaVaMW8uq+uODMUm/tLT FmUvHsZjyV5hk2OJf8XxM7dQtoskwMdSR8roI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.122.15 with SMTP id j15mr1212857far.10.1236275905390; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 09:58:25 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 17:58:25 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: WSPR Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m265.2 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : fail X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) I'll run my WSPR beacon again tonight on 503.870kHz (USB Dial 502.4kHz, tone 1470Hz) unless there are any big Eu / US stations going to be operational elsewhere in the band. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg07.mx.aol.com (rly-dg07.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.91]) by air-dg05.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDG054-5d849b3a6ba24e; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 07:06:44 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg07.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG071-5d849b3a6ba24e; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 07:06:36 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LgGpj-0003PN-9s for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 11:06:15 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LgGpi-0003PE-FR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 11:06:14 +0000 Received: from mout0.freenet.de ([195.4.92.90]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LgGph-0004Pw-DT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 11:06:14 +0000 Received: from [195.4.92.18] (helo=8.mx.freenet.de) by mout0.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID beckmann.erlangen@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #79) id 1LgGpf-00018c-MC; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 12:06:11 +0100 Received: from w080f.w.pppool.de ([89.58.8.15]:1444 helo=2a2d7ed321c6425) by 8.mx.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID beckmann.erlangen@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #76) id 1LgGpe-00036O-Gv; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 12:06:11 +0100 From: "Beckmann, Gerhard" To: Cc: "'Robert Hemesley'" References: <0566EF6DE20B4249A3E74859BF9BA2C6@AGB> <9C03FBF153AB478A9B0DBC5580CF20D2@AGB> <28FA0F184B25444F8BA2F1EC5FC42C04@AGB> Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 12:06:08 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: AcmfdutVhEjyi+6+R+y3bgnMsjJpQgAZP7gg In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: AW: 503.7 Multi-function beacon ... Its working ! Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0012_01C99FE6.4551C110" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C99FE6.4551C110 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Graham, Hello Andy,=20 =20 reading about your activities concerning Multi-function beacon I tried yesterday evening to catch your signals, but unfortunately with no results copying your sig. May be condx were not good enough. Moreover I had some bad manmade QRM from TV and PC. =20 As Rob Hemesley told you I am active in 5-MHz-beaco- monitoring specially concerning scattergram monitoring in order to analyse signal path situation (direct wave / sky wave behaviour). But I am running both analysis software, GB3RAL.exe and Scattergram.exe and it would not be any problem to modify the internal PC-clock specially regarding GB3RAL.exe in order to analyse the long term signal level of your Multi-function beacon. So I will try to continue monitoring your Multi-function beacon hopefully that condx will be better in the next evening sessions (hi). If there will be Scattergram acties in future I certainly need some more dB signal level, but it would be very interesting to investigate the signal path situation. Of course, this is more interesting for those participants who are located in a distance range between 150 and 300 km in order to monitor the slide crossover from direct wave to sky wave signal path.=20 However, thank you very much for implementation of your very interesting Multi-function beacon project and I will keep on running my monitoring activities and will inform you in any case about further results. =20 vy 73 and a lot of success by running Multi-function beacons, I will be =93o= n the qui vive=94 !!! =20 de Gerhard / DK6NI (JN59LN) =20 By the way:=20 Dial frequency 505.2 kHz, is that o.k.? (because GB3RAL.exe is decoding with 1500 Hz too). For BPSK31-decoding I am using DigiPan Vers.2.0 =20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =20 =20 =20 _____ =20 Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von Graham Gesendet: Samstag, 7. M=E4rz 2009 23:46 An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Betreff: LF: 503.7 Multi-function beacon ... Its working ! =20 So far so good .. quite a step up in signal round 2100 hrs =20 no frequency decode before then , 15 db over noise at 2130 =20 but a trend showing=20 about 1 hour slow qsb=20 =20 any other reports ? =20 G ..=20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C99FE6.4551C110 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello Graham, Hello Andy,

 

reading about your activities conc= erning Multi-function beacon I tried yesterday evening to catch your signals, but unfortunately with no results copying your sig. May be condx were not good enough.=A0 Moreover I had some bad manmade QRM from TV and PC.

 

=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 As Rob Hemesley to= ld you I am active in 5-MHz-beaco- monitoring specially concerning=A0 scattergram monitoring in order to analys= e signal path situation (direct wave / sky wave behaviour).<= /font>

=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 But I am running b= oth analysis software, GB3RAL.exe and Scattergram.exe and it would not be any problem to modify the internal PC-clock specially regarding GB3RAL.exe in order to analyse the long term si= gnal level of your Multi-function beacon. So I will try to continue monitoring yo= ur Multi-function beacon hopefully that condx will be better in the next evenin= g sessions (hi).

=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 If there will be S= cattergram acties in future I certainly need some more dB signal level, but it would be very interesting t= o investigate the signal path situation.

=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Of course, this is= more interesting for those participants who are located in a distance range between 150 and 300 km in order to monit= or the slide crossover from direct wave to sky wave signal path.

=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0=A0However, thank=20= you very much for implementation of your very interesting Multi-function beacon project and I will keep on running my monitoring activities and will inform you in any case about furth= er results.

 

vy 73 and a lot of success by runn= ing Multi-function beacons, I will be “on the qui vive” !!!

 

de Gerhard=A0 /=A0 DK6NI=A0 (JN59L= N)

 

By the way:

Dial frequency 505.2 kHz, is that=20= o.k.? (because GB3RAL.exe is decoding with 1500 Hz too).

For BPSK31-decoding I am using Dig= iPan Vers.2.0

 

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

 

 

 

Von:= owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g] Im Auftrag von Graham
Gesendet: Samstag, 7. M=E4rz=20= 2009 23:46
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Betreff: LF: 503.7 Multi-func= tion beacon ... Its working !

 

So far so good .. quite a step up in signal round=20= 2100 hrs 

no frequency decode before then , 15 db over noise= at 2130

 

but a trend showing

about  1 hour slow qsb

 

any other reports ?

 

G ..

 

------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C99FE6.4551C110-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf04.mx.aol.com (rly-mf04.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.174]) by air-mf07.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMF074-95949c160d12d1; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 17:00:22 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf04.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF047-95949c160d12d1; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 17:00:03 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lk2re-00034J-O1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 20:59:50 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lk2re-00034A-8o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 20:59:50 +0000 Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.44]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lk2rc-00046P-Sm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 20:59:50 +0000 Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (smtpshost02.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.75]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6838E51C008 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:59:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3487FF3864 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:59:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.242.4]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B65CF3863 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:59:06 +0100 (CET) Received: by webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix, from userid 65534) id DD94D5AB7; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:59:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from 21.196-136-217.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (21.196-136-217.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [217.136.196.21]) by webmail4.kuleuven.be (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:59:06 +0100 Message-ID: <20090318215906.vn1zu4jium1w08cc@webmail4.kuleuven.be> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:59:06 +0100 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <009001c9a588$7eb02c60$6401a8c0@asus> <005101c9a679$df148f50$6401a8c0@asus> <916F3329CAA846A19B450540FCC7E0AB@AGB> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 217.136.196.21 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_IN_NJABL_PROXY=0.327 Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software QQQ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Andy, if I got it right the RX software will make a correct measurent as =20 long as the signal is there during the 5 second period, even if the =20 transmission start a few seconds early and stops a few seconds late ? That would make timing far less critical and it would be possible to =20 use my QRS software (eg. sending an "E" at 10 seconds dotlength). 73, Rik ON7YD Quoting Andy Talbot : > No it uses the average power over the 5 second period. You could always > start it 1s early and stop 1s later > Andy G4JNT > www.g4jnt.com > > > 2009/3/18 Graham > >> Andy, >> >> Q .. If the tx is keyed by vox/breakin will the slight clipping of >> the leading edge of the beacon cause time problems ?? >> reason being .. if use force 'tx' will miss the beacon rx windows ?? >> >> Tnx- G .. >> >> *From:* Andy Talbot >> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 17, 2009 4:27 PM >> *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> *Subject:* Re: LF: RE: Syncback software >> >> That should have read http://www.g4jnt.com/PCBCN.zip >> >> Andy G4JNT >> www.g4jnt.com >> >> >> 2009/3/17 Andy Talbot >> >>> Try http://www.g4jnt.com/beacons.htm and go to PCBCN at the bottom >>> or directly >>> >> ------------------------------ >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.16/2006 - Release Date: 03/17/0= 9 >> 07:23:00 >> >> > Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg06.mx.aol.com (rly-dg06.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.90]) by air-dg02.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDG021-5cf49ccebf22f3; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 11:08:47 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg06.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG062-5cf49ccebf22f3; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 11:08:37 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LnDeo-0003pO-Fh for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 15:07:42 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LnDeo-0003pF-3O for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 15:07:42 +0000 Received: from mailout.toya.net.pl ([217.113.224.27] ident=postfix) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LnDel-0004C5-Ut for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 15:07:42 +0000 Received: from localhost (unknown [192.168.120.26]) by lazir.toya.net.pl (TOYAnet MailServer) with ESMTP id 9003F8C312 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 16:07:38 +0100 (CET) X-TOYA-AV: AntyVir-Skaner at toya.net.pl Received: from lazir.toya.net.pl ([192.168.120.25]) by localhost (antyvir.toya.net.pl [192.168.120.26]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NOqoDioE4bjJ for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 16:07:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.11.178.152] (lazir [217.113.224.3]) (Authenticated sender: unimlyn) by lazir.toya.net.pl (TOYAnet MailServer) with ESMTP id 42C6C8C305 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 16:07:38 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <49CCEBB9.3070006@toya.net.pl> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 16:07:37 +0100 From: =?UTF-8?B?UGlvdHIgTcWCeW5hcnNraQ==?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <8bf118410903270647t5ebb0cedi82b96e2ea73075bd@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8bf118410903270647t5ebb0cedi82b96e2ea73075bd@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Lazy Man's CW made it to Venus and back Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Dave Pick wrote: > How many miles per Watt is that?!! > > Dave 'YXM Hi Dave , LF by the time of amsat-dl experiment the distance between Earth and Venus was abt 45 milions km ( 45*10^6 km) so it takes twice that distance to "see" the reflected signal , therefore, it takes roughly 300 sec or 5 minutes of 'waiting' :) ( speed of light 3*10^5 km/sec) and as Wolf, dl4yhf said it was 5 kilowatt tx power thus making 18 000 km per watt btw, it seems to be of the same order as the best wspr HF beacon rx on earth :) 73, peter, sq7mpj qth: lodz, poland /jo91rs/ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df02.mx.aol.com (rly-df02.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.15]) by air-df06.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDF062-52e49d27a1d12; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 16:16:45 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df02.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF021-52e49d27a1d12; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 16:16:34 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LokNI-0002bk-Gu for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 21:15:56 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LokNI-0002bb-57 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 21:15:56 +0100 Received: from mail-bw0-f219.google.com ([209.85.218.219]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LokNE-0002jh-Iz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 21:15:56 +0100 Received: by bwz19 with SMTP id 19so2926535bwz.4 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 13:14:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=TuFDtTKIRsd2totAmiZ9J2aIAjbapJZcywm2N0WMY3g=; b=WysKIup0g0S2rL5F0cHH+lUCuNAeOJ8hXlMdoA5jigF8eThQ+O5OuvDZs+LKoO2YXm XdvXjn92AfQ9wMmFLzeeLie6kSNU41yo/+6BDEqmhzth8jqCPN12u/SFT8NGAYUPMe6v cVEdjDBrvXRnOemIL2EIJA/NJA1vrTzKdt1IM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=FN5F+5JfeTkPhA3jmvqZsDWkCXBeCvb4JPOa8QcjB7uTneDGaz5WJqtSizg3n8cRRc 8qjYrKrgI9oPF0AZUxV+nGzGonPPmOICqUtCAfD9bY+P0haVKP2hHNW3uYEJu2UmMpei O+2PT3+Q7hT6T9XaFQXgrmeE4Fq6yC2SIftNI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.62.68 with SMTP id w4mr2498459bkh.122.1238530486529; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 13:14:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 21:14:46 +0100 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Beacons Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c92477b16e1804666fd92f X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d247.1 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --001636c92477b16e1804666fd92f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mine is still running. Every 15 minute interval at 4, 19, 34, 49 past the hour. CW + power steps + carrier + PSK31 + carrier for one minute. 503.700kHz Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/3/31 dave.riley3 > *Any 600M beacons or sigs from EU tonight??* > ** > ** > *TNX* > ** > *Dave @ WD2XSH/17* > ** > ** > --001636c92477b16e1804666fd92f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Mine is still running.=A0=A0Every 15 minute interval at=A0 4, 19, 34, 4= 9 past the hour.=A0=A0 CW + power steps + carrier + PSK31 + carrier for one=20= minute.=A0=A0=A0 503.700kHz

Andy =A0G4JNT
www= .g4jnt.com


2009/3/31 dave.riley3 <dave.riley3@verizon.net>=
Any 600M beacons or sigs from EU tonight??
=A0
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TNX
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Dave @ WD2XSH/17
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--001636c92477b16e1804666fd92f-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh09.mx.aol.com (rly-mh09.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.145]) by air-mh03.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMH033-bf249acf386198; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 04:08:40 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh09.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH092-bf249acf386198; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 04:08:25 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LeQbD-0004qY-Vi for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 09:07:39 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LeQbD-0004qP-Gd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 09:07:39 +0000 Received: from psmtp30.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.32]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LeQbC-0001zl-Pf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 09:07:39 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp30.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KFX004QHAOKJK@psmtp30.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 10:07:32 +0100 (MET) Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 10:07:19 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <0996D807904146C4AB13350C3ABC7E5F@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: YO 02-03.jpg Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_kb53Vk3CVMZ13zcxT+YCEA)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_kb53Vk3CVMZ13zcxT+YCEA) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_984Mk021YeXVHXa89kXuNA)" --Boundary_(ID_984Mk021YeXVHXa89kXuNA) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Hi lf, capture YO Henny cpm 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: YO 02-03.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld. --Boundary_(ID_984Mk021YeXVHXa89kXuNA) Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
Hi lf,
capture YO
Henny cpm
73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
YO 02-03.jpg

Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: RE: EI--- 500khz permit applications Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear LF, There's an article about 500 kHz permissions on the Irish Radio Transmitters Society (IRTS) web-site, here:- http://www.irts.ie/cgi/thisweek.cgi There's also a form to be filled in to express interest. http://www.irts.ie/downloads/500KHzExpressionOfInterest.pdf 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Alan Melia Sent: 29 March 2009 16:05 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Fw: EI--- 500khz permit applications ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael J. Probert" To: "Alan Melia" Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 3:32 PM Subject: FW: EI--- 500khz permit applications Hello Alan, The LF reflector does not seem to accept my posting. Could you kindly forward please? Best regards Mike. _______________________________ From: Michael Probert GW4HXO [mailto:mikegw4hxo@solva.co.uk] Sent: 29 March 2009 14:57 To: 'owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org' Subject: EI--- 500khz permit applications Hello All, It was announced on the IRTS news today that applications for operation on the 500khz "Band" are now being invited. No specification has yet been posted. Permits will be limited. Best regards Mike GW4HXO From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc04.mx.aol.com (rly-dc04.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.33]) by air-dc06.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC061-b1649cc0344ba; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 18:35:57 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc04.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC042-b1649cc0344ba; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 18:35:52 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LmyAD-0004ue-IC for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 22:35:05 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LmyAD-0004uV-3d for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 22:35:05 +0000 Received: from pne-smtpout3-sn2.hy.skanova.net ([81.228.8.111]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LmyAA-0000UR-4h for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 22:35:05 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (213.64.47.29) by pne-smtpout3-sn2.hy.skanova.net (7.3.129) (authenticated as u33233109) id 478BDB960061ED3B for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 23:34:56 +0100 Message-ID: <49CC0310.3040808@telia.com> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 23:34:56 +0100 From: "Johan H. Bodin" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <49CBF051.9090707@usa.net> <49CBFB9E.9040903@usa.net> In-Reply-To: <49CBFB9E.9040903@usa.net> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Lazy Man's CW made it to Venus and back Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) I didn't know it was an English saying/proverb! The swedish translation "Kasta p=E4rlor f=F6r svinen" is sometimes used in similar circumstances... 73 Johan Alberto di Bene wrote: >> the meaning of the English saying of "throwing pearls to the porks".... >=20 > Or perhaps it is "throwing pearls to the pigs", but the meaning does not > change... From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db03.mx.aol.com (rly-db03.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.78]) by air-db08.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB083-aba49cf4ac5181; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 06:17:47 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db03.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB038-aba49cf4ac5181; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 06:17:42 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lns3l-00012U-GU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 11:16:09 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lns3k-00012L-Va for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 11:16:08 +0100 Received: from imo-m26.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.7] helo=imo-m26.mail.aol.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lns3i-0004nd-3i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 11:16:08 +0100 Received: from F4DTL@aol.com by imo-m26.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id l.c77.44ae0276 (65100) for ; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 06:14:52 -0400 (EDT) From: F4DTL@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 06:15:55 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5029 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: WSPR 137 kHz F4DTL Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1238321755" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 -------------------------------1238321755 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello the list, I start my first tries in WSPR on LF. I am in beacon on 137718 with a 50 % cycle until 1200z. Next tests this evening. Reports are welcome via the database WSPR Thank you in advance F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP -------------------------------1238321755 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello the list, I start my first tries in WSPR on LF.
I am in=20 beacon on 137718 with a 50 % cycle until 1200z.
Next tests this evening.
 
Reports are welcome via the database WSPR
Thank you in=20 advance
 
F4DTL=20 Nicolas JN18FP

 -------------------------------1238321755-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg05.mx.aol.com (rly-mg05.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.111]) by air-mg05.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMG051-a1249b44e13158; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 19:00:54 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg05.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG054-a1249b44e13158; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 19:00:38 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LgRyP-00043Y-M8 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 22:59:57 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LgRyP-00043P-1i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 22:59:57 +0000 Received: from smtp804.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.64]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LgRyO-0003tw-8S for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 22:59:56 +0000 Received: (qmail 56950 invoked from network); 8 Mar 2009 22:59:50 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=GMmB5oY+4lz8nCajzNDufngdTCArfVuX/vir6KYyC4KeHc176CsPSgz2uqyLMjwd1jcte21MJb9DZBBiAnZrSG6dzNxGE9osQPtZLwjd3Rcpc7EMY/xSFdYAoKx9lPLrlGnuFzgdaoBZKkf1HI4Azg0FQFKUTyFS5bBcCQT0DZg= ; Received: from unknown (HELO Lark) (alan.melia@81.131.55.125 with login) by smtp804.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Mar 2009 22:59:49 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 1qxwPqsVM1mjnDHWk1T0vV_n.p36A6PP_PLXuPABc2zbSHmU302ZVwupzt.nX3koDB6Ag4F___0TRYsDX4uviKFRa.yMWboiBzcsWWfthp8HHND4qrJYte3i6D6soCWvZ_n_QAOYT43K1FcL7cSPrcbz4Jt0pUXS_Q7Auw61sWxnv9uQulGqFHHdxOYtwLb7lHRuvPXLM1SOfS2kgbWSskxV3_C4t5U- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <003601c9a041$990c2c40$0900a8c0@AM> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <1794381892.23372.1236524009509.JavaMail.mail@webmail03> <007f01c9a004$97057380$0900a8c0@AM> <731EB49F88B309428FFDDD2423F810E4B90C1C@HERMES4.ds.leeds.ac.uk> Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 22:53:17 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: RE: Re: energy saving bulbs Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Chris with respect, the articles and ads and PR don't talk about light output but "saving energy", as I said they are not considered "domestically fashionable" but strip lights still are more effective in light output to energy input. As to the waste energy when you dont need the "extra" warmth, this is fairly negligible because it only occurs in the summer when you dont need lights for long anyway. How many still waste energy by having the freezer in the garage or uninsulated utility room? .Its like the drive to get you unplugging phone chargers when not in use, mine doesn't show on a power meter, which means well below a watt....I must measure it accurately sometime on my true rms meter. Better planning and reducing the kettle boils, or wash loads by one a week. or washing the dishes by hand once a week, would save more power. Why wont we accept street lights being put off at midnight?? 100s of kWhrs are consumed so a few people can walk home in towns after midnight. Don't get me wrong CFLs are a good idea but not so all-fired marvellous as we would be had to believe....everyone ain't a radio amateur though :-)) As to LEDs they look interesting and are now approching CFLs but are still behind strip lights for "efficiency". I reckon one problem might be they are low voltage devices hence the need for the switching voltage reducer. That means also that they are high current units and then there are big IR losses to heat too. I suppose series strings could be used but there might be a reliability problem inherent in running devices in series. As I said I have one make of CFLs that wipe 136kHz and probably upwards even with the antenna 10m away, But I havent found trouble with the Philips branded product yet on any frequency I listened. I still worry a little about the ozone smell but I dont know whether this is an isolated occurance yet. But that is not an exhaustive test they may just be different. I used to have a noisy tube light, bad on 160m, but presently used ones are surprisingly clean, unless you get up very close....within a foot or so. Cheers de Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Trayner" To: Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 8:32 PM Subject: LF: RE: Re: energy saving bulbs Dear All, Thanks, Alan, for your thoughts. > The tale that filament lamps are inefficient is a myth !! All the energy fed to the bulb is converted into radiation ! some is light and some is heat.....a CLF just produces less heat and more light and more polution! Well, in a sense you're right: efficiency is defined as (energy out) / (energy in), and the conservation of energy principle implies that (in the steady state) everything is 100% efficient ;-) In practice, by efficiency one means (wanted energy out) / (energy in), and when you turn on a lamp you're not necessarily cold. In engineering terms it's better to decouple the things and have a lamp produce just light. - Electricity is generated at something like 1/3 efficiency overall, and using fuels to generate heat directly is better. - The idea that waste heat can be used is relevant in cold climates, but presumably less so nearer the equator. I also wonder whether these discussions may be useful only for a limited time. I get the impression that LED room lighting may be starting to replace other forms. Is this right? How does its efficiency compare with other forms? Opinions, anyone? If LED room lighting does come in, it raises new problems of interference relevant to LF. One thinks of LEDs as being innocent DC devices fed via a resistor. But modern designs often turn them on and off at frequencies in the kHz range, generating harmonics going into the lower radio bands. This has been known for some time in the cave radio community, where 87kHz is the most commonly used band. The Cave Radio Journal has also documented interference with 2m and 70cm amateur band handhelds. This can work both ways - if I speak into a PMR446 radio it quenches my LED helmet lamp - the Empire strikes back! Cave radio experience is that interference from LED lamps is very short range, but these lamps are driven from local batteries. Will mains-driven ones radiate from the wiring? Do vehicle LEDs cause interference? Does anyone have any experience of this? 73, Chris G4OKW ----------------------------- Dr Chris Trayner School of Electronic & Electrical Engineering, The University of Leeds, Leeds LS2 9JT, United Kingdom Tel: +44 113 34 32053 Fax: +44 113 34 32032 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc04.mx.aol.com (rly-dc04.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.33]) by air-dc05.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDC052-b1649af69f71d4; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 00:58:32 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc04.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC042-b1649af69f71d4; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 00:58:18 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lf6a5-00074p-JB for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 05:57:17 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lf6a5-00074g-3d for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 05:57:17 +0000 Received: from bay0-omc3-s40.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.240]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lf6a3-0002cJ-1t for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 05:57:17 +0000 Received: from BAY105-W2 ([65.54.224.102]) by bay0-omc3-s40.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 4 Mar 2009 21:57:01 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [212.4.140.33] From: Lubos OK2BVG To: Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 06:57:00 +0100 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Mar 2009 05:57:01.0112 (UTC) FILETIME=[33A7CB80:01C99D57] X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_56572961-3f3e-4d4a-b465-13aff263cb59_" Subject: LF: XGJ X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_56572961-3f3e-4d4a-b465-13aff263cb59_ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_56b70da0-e1c6-491c-8876-d08095a20fe6_" --_56b70da0-e1c6-491c-8876-d08095a20fe6_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Warren, LF! Band was very noisy, I saw some traces of XGJ only. Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS _________________________________________________________________ Pozvi sv=E9 p=F8=E1tele z Facebooku a Hotmailu do Messengeru! https://www.invite2messenger.net/Default.aspx=3D --_56b70da0-e1c6-491c-8876-d08095a20fe6_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Warren, LF!
Band was very noisy, I saw some traces of XGJ only..
Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

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B. Weazle McCreath" To: Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 21:53:22 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Thanks Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Piotr, Ian, Alan, Thanks for the info on the U.K. coastal station frequencies. I'll have a look/listen and see what shows up. 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL Solar and wind powered Lowfer " EAR" 188.830 EN93dr http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg07.mx.aol.com (rly-mg07.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.113]) by air-mg08.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMG081-a2149bda488204; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 21:00:17 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg07.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG073-a2149bda488204; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 20:59:56 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lj1Ac-0001a3-Mi for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 00:59:10 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lj1Ac-0001Zu-9H for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 00:59:10 +0000 Received: from smtprelay0013.hostedemail.com ([216.40.44.13] helo=smtprelay.hostedemail.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lj1AZ-0007NZ-Su for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 00:59:10 +0000 Received: from filter.hostedemail.com (ff-bigip1 [10.5.19.254]) by smtprelay03.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 1570F177AFD3 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 00:59:01 +0000 (UTC) X-SpamScore: 1 X-Spam-Summary: 50,0,0,cf7eb1051f40d58a,49f40f4b3f783a2d,ve8rt@xplornet.com,rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org,RULES_HIT:152:355:379:408:599:601:800:945:960:967:973:988:989:1260:1261:1277:1311:1312:1313:1314:1345:1359:1437:1515:1516:1518:1519:1534:1542:1593:1594:1595:1596:1676:1711:1730:1747:1766:1792:2194:2199:2393:2525:2551:2553:2560:2563:2682:2685:2829:2857:2859:2933:2937:2939:2942:2945:2947:2951:2954:3022:3027:3355:3622:3636:3865:3866:3867:3868:3869:3870:3871:3872:3873:3874:3876:3877:3934:3936:3938:3941:3944:3947:3950:3953:3956:3959:4043:4250:4605:4648:4649:5007:6114:6119:6997:7576:7652:7679:7754:7903:7904:7974:8501:8599:9010:9025:9040:9108:9388:9545,0,RBL:none,CacheIP:none,Bayesian:0.5,0.5,0.5,Netcheck:none,DomainCache:0,MSF:not bulk,SPF:fu,MSBL:none,DNSBL:none Received: from [192.168.1.103] (xplr-ts-v10-208-114-191-189.barrettxplore.com [208.114.191.189]) (Authenticated sender: ron.t@xplornet.com) by omf04.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 00:58:57 +0000 (UTC) From: Ron Thompson To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 18:58:47 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.4 References: <200903141634.37933.ve8rt@xplornet.com> <8bf118410903151024k69053f8cs345c4673ad93deec@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Organization: ARS VE8RT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200903151858.47737.ve8rt@xplornet.com> X-session-marker: 726F6E2E744078706C6F726E65742E636F6D X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Getting started, maybe Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Graham, my actual location is at postal code X1A 2H5 I'm in the company crew house at the float base. In the Google map for the postal code, at the highest available satellite magnification, you should see floatplanes along the parking lot and then in a cove on the upper side of the parking lot is a yellow Cessna floatplane. The house just to the left of the floatplane is where I live. Unfortunately, as the house is in the floatbase parking lot, there isn't any antenna space around it. What I do have is two 15 metre towers spaced about 48 metres apart that I use for my HF antenna (it used to have a company commercial HF antenna before). Any LF/MF antenna must be compact and mountable either to the house or one of the towers. Power lines are between the house and cove, which may be a noise source. Ron On Sunday 15 March 2009 16:20, Graham wrote: > I was looking on google earth ... looks to be a lot of sea planes about > .. that would prevent any high mast ?? > > the location looks a bit tricky ......a low long wire may be good .. but > can you get one out , looks to have roads all round ? > > G .. > > > From: Dave Pick > Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 5:24 PM > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: Getting started, maybe > > > Ron > > I would recommend a loop antenna, there are various designs around such as > Jim M0BMU's design, http://www.wireless.org.uk/BPloops2.pdf Even though > you're in the middle of nowhere there, you should stand a chance of getting > some of the US 500kHz stations ( www.500kc.com ) going under the calls > WD2XSH and WE2XGR with numerical suffixes identifying the individual > stations. We in the UK have 10W ERP but it won't be easy to get right over > to you... Maybe you could contact some of the US stations in the North and > do some test with them first? > > Good luck! > Dave G3YXM. > > 2009/3/14 Ron Thompson : > > I've been reading the occasional posting to the list, wondering if I > > could find some time and money to work with. As we do not yet have > > licences for the 500KHz band, the best place to start would be setting up > > for receiving. -- Ron Thompson, VE8RT Yellowknife, NT, Canada 62 28.060 N 114 20.648 W Grid Square DP22tl "Who are are these that fly as a cloud, and as doves to their window?" 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<00be01c9a66e$c8bfdbc0$0900a8c0@AM> <004a01c9a677$2a8b48a0$6401a8c0@asus> <005101c9a679$df148f50$6401a8c0@asus> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 21:03:24 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5b1f70703d8046542c865 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNSAFE,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d249.2 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --001636c5b1f70703d8046542c865 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Don't destroy your noise figure though. But at HF you can probably get away with 20 dB at least. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/3/16 Gary - G4WGT > *Andy,* > > * * > > *OK, I will insert an attenuator at the antenna socket (that=92s an easy > move) & watch how it performs. It is switched at 10dB steps so I will star= t > at 10db of course.* > > * * > > *Cheers,* > > * * > > *Gary.* > > * * > ------------------------------ > > *From:* owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto: > owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] *On Behalf Of *Andy Talbot > *Sent:* 16 March 2009 20:45 > > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > *Subject:* Re: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > Doesn't matter which - just total system gain. That S/W works best if the > noise threshold rides at about 10dB above the baseline, then it allows fo= r > up to 70 - 80dB of signal peaks. > > > Andy G4JNT > www.g4jnt.com > > 2009/3/16 Gary - G4WGT > > Alan, > > When you wrote :- > > my only comment is that you may have too much gain in the system. > > Are you meaning sound card or receiver gain? > > Gary. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Alan Melia > Sent: 16 March 2009 19:38 > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software > > Hi Gary my only comment is that you may have too much gain in the system. > It > is sometimes better to have the noise further down nearer the axis. > > I am afraid there is a major problem with this kind of beacon, when the > fading period is shorter than the sampling interval, so you dont really > know > what the path is doing. The only reliable points are the peaks, the trough= s > dont really mean anything without some very sophisticated analysis and > probably two spaced receivers. However it does give a snapshot of the band > without taking up too much bandwidth (this was what was required for 5MHz > too). Despite all the data collected very little analysis has actually be > done on the 5MHz data collected by this program. The one succesfull bit of > work was that published in Radcom by Marcis Walden G0IJZ. I used it for > some > time whilst Andy was testing the Poldhu beacon on 160m and also during the > 1st two months that ran. I was certainly surprised by the daytime path on > 160m from here. I have seen the data collected in Canada via Joe Craig > VO1NA > and it is difficult to see how to use it. > > Still if you dont collect the data you will never know!! > > Alan G3NYK > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gary - G4WGT" > To: > Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 6:35 PM > Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > Hi Graham, LF, > > > > > > > > The original HTML Code for the 2 minute refresh is still inserted into > the > > page format, so upload is 30 minute intervals with Syncback & 2 minute > > refresh. I have left the refresh in case I revert back to the original > > grabber page. I will look at changing it if I continue to use the beacon > > chart upload. > > > > > > > > I would like to have feedback from the LF group regarding the page, if > you > > check it out periodically, is it useful to you, what are you looking for= . > > > > > > > > You can view the chart on my web site at :- > > > > > > > > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html > > > > > > > > 73 > > > > > > > > Gary - G4WGT. > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham > > Sent: 16 March 2009 17:20 > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > > > > > Hi Gary, > > > > > > > > The page seemed to refresh quite often ... are there two settings ? > > > > > > > > G .. > > > > > > > > From: Gary - G4WGT > > > > Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:40 AM > > > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > > > Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > > > > > Hi Graham, LF, > > > > > > > > You wrote :- > > > > >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute > > intervals. <<< that could be backed off to 15 mins as the beacon only > > sends every 15 ?? > > > > > > > > I mentioned in my previous mail to ignore the text on the page as it was > > originally for grabber 1 for when I upgrade the web site (to a new desig= n > & > > better navigation etc), also mentioned is that upload is every 30 > minutes. > > > > > > > > If the uploaded chart proves useful or interesting to operators & viewer= s > > then I will change the text & make it a permanent feature for the > > foreseeable future. > > > > > > > > BTW :- > > > > > > > > For those of you who are not familiar with the chart - > > > > > > > > The RED trace is Andy's (G4JNT) beacon signal & the BLACK trace is the > noise > > level at my QTH. > > > > > > > > The Blue & GREEN are not in use & should be ignored on this chart as the= y > > are for the other beacons used when monitoring on the 5MHz allocation. > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > Gary - G4WGT > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham > > Sent: 15 March 2009 22:17 > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > > > > > Gary.. > > > > > > > > That looks good ... 0500 looks best time for a qso .. see you then Smil= e > > emoticon > > > > > > > > >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute > > intervals. <<< that could be backed off to 15 mins as the beacon only > > sends every 15 ?? > > > > > > > > the 15 db over the noise in day time is the same at this qth .. looks > like > > the big dips round 1900 where just when we where testing .. typical > hihi > > > > > > > > tnx- G .. > > > > > > > > From: Gary - G4WGT > > > > Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 7:55 PM > > > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > > > Subject: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > > > > > LF, > > > > > > > > I have now got the software, Syncback running correctly (I think). > > > > > > > > The purpose of this is to upload the chart from Andy's beacon as receive= d > > here to my web site periodically, ie. every 30 minutes. > > > > > > > > I now have a receiver running 24/7 monitoring Andy,s beacon on 503.7KHz.= . > > > > > > > > You can view the chart on my web site at :- > > > > > > > > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html > > > > > > > > For the moment ignore the text on the page as it is originally designed > to > > use with the 500KHz grabber when I renew my web site design. If it is a > > useful upload I will make it a permanent feature but may have to extend > the > > frequency coverage of grabber 1 so not to overload the PC with operation= s > > which will cause the PC to struggle. > > > > > > > > Let me have your comments please. > > > > > > > > 73 > > > > > > > > Gary - G4WGT. > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT > > Sent: 15 March 2009 16:10 > > To: LF -RSGB LF Group > > Subject: LF: Syncback software > > > > > > > > Hi LF, > > > > > > > > If anyone is using Syncback software & can help, please. > > > > > > > > I am tying to upload a file to my website who's filename does not change= , > > only the file size changes. I tried to do it with Argo-upload but failed > so > > I downloaded Syncback & still failing. > > > > > > > > Syncback gives me the following message :- > > > > > > > > ********************************** > > > > Can connect, but unable to change to destination directory: > > > > /chart01.bmp:not a directory > > > > ********************************** > > > > The Syncback help does not give me the answer. > > > > > > > > Any help will be appreciated > > > > > > > > Or > > > > > > > > Will Argo-Upload do it? > > > > > > > > Or > > > > > > > > Is there something else to do it? > > > > > > > > Thanks in anticipation, > > > > > > > > 73, > > > > > > > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.13/2001 - Release Date: > 03/14/09 > > 06:54:00 > > > > _____ > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.15/2003 - Release Date: > 03/15/09 > > 14:07:00 > > > > > > > > --001636c5b1f70703d8046542c865 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Don't destroy your noise figure though.=A0 But at HF you can probab= ly get away with 20 dB at least.

Andy =A0G4JNT
www= .g4jnt.com


2009/3/16 Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>

Andy,

=A0

OK, I will inse= rt an attenuator at the antenna socket (that=92s an easy move) & watch h= ow it performs. It is switched at 10dB steps so I will start at 10db of cour= se.

=A0

Cheers,<= /font>

=A0

Gary.

=A0

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_= lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf=20= Of Andy Talbot
Sent: 16 March 2009 20:45=20


To: rsgb_lf_grou= p@blacksheep.org
Subject:= Re: LF: RE: Syncback software

=A0

Doesn't matter which - just total system gain.=A0 That S/W works best i= f the noise threshold rides at about 10dB above the baseline,=A0 then it all= ows for up to 70 - 80dB of signal peaks.

<= span style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">
Andy =A0G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com

2009/3/16 Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>

Alan,

When you wrote :-

<= span style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">my only comment is that you may have too much= gain in the system.

Are you meaning sound card or receiver gain?

Gary.



-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<= /a>

[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Alan Melia
Sent= : 16 March 2009 19:38

<= span style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF= : RE: Syncback software

Hi Gary my only comment is that you may have too much gain in the system= . It
is sometimes better to have the noise further down nearer the axis..=

I am afraid there is a major problem with this kind of beacon, when=20= the
fading period is shorter than the sampling interval, so you dont really know=
what the path is doing. The only reliable points are the peaks, the trou= ghs
dont really mean anything without some very sophisticated analysis an= d
probably two spaced receivers. However it does give a snapshot of the bandwithout taking up too much bandwidth (this was what was required for 5MHz<= br>too). Despite all the data collected very little analysis has actually be=
done on the 5MHz data collected by this program. The one succesfull bit ofwork was that published in Radcom by Marcis Walden G0IJZ. I used it for so= me
time whilst Andy was testing the Poldhu beacon on 160m and also during= the
1st two months that ran. I was certainly surprised by the daytime path on160m from here. I have seen the data collected in Canada via Joe Craig VO1N= A
and it is difficult to see how to use it.

Still if you dont coll= ect the data you will never know!!

Alan G3NYK




----- Original Message -----
From: &quo= t;Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 6:35 PM
Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback softwa= re


> Hi Graham, LF,
>
>
>
> The origin= al HTML Code for the 2 minute refresh is still inserted into the
> pag= e format, so upload is 30 minute intervals with Syncback & 2 minute
> refresh. I have left the refresh in case I revert back to the original<= br>> grabber page. I will look at changing it if I continue to use the be= acon
> chart upload.
>
>
>
> I would like to h= ave feedback from the LF group regarding the page, if you
> check it out periodically, is it useful to you, what are you looking fo= r.
>
>
>
> You can view the chart on my web site at=20= :-
>
>
>
> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/g= rabber3.html
>
>
>
> 73
>
>
>
> Gary - G4WGT= .
>
>
>
>
>
> =A0 _____
>
>=20= From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham
&= gt; Sent: 16 March 2009 17:20
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software
>
>
>
>=20= Hi Gary,
>
>
>
> The page seemed to =A0refresh quite= often ... are there two settings ?
>
>
>
> G ..
>
>
>
> From: Gary - G4WGT <mailto:g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
><= br>> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:40 AM
>
> To: rsgb_lf_group@bla= cksheep.org
>
> Subject: RE: LF: RE: Syncback software
>
>
><= br>> Hi Graham, LF,
>
>
>
> You wrote :-
><= br>> >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at=20= 2 minute
> intervals. <<< that could be backed off to =A015 mins as the b= eacon only
> sends every 15 ??
>
>
>
> I menti= oned in my previous mail to ignore the text on the page as it was
> or= iginally for grabber 1 for when I upgrade the web site (to a new design
&
> better navigation etc), also mentioned is that upload is every= 30 minutes.
>
>
>
> If the uploaded chart proves us= eful or interesting to operators & viewers
> then I will change th= e text & make it a permanent feature for the
> foreseeable future.
>
>
>
> BTW :-
>
&= gt;
>
> For those of you =A0who are not familiar with the chart=20= -
>
>
>
> The RED trace is Andy's (G4JNT) beacon= signal & the BLACK trace is the
noise
> level at my QTH.
>
>
>
> The Blue &= ; GREEN are not in use & should be ignored on this chart as they
>= are for the other beacons used when monitoring on the 5MHz allocation.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> Gary -=20= G4WGT
>
>
>
>
>
> =A0 _____
>
&= gt; From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham
&= gt; Sent: 15 March 2009 22:17
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software
>
>
>
>=20= Gary..
>
>
>
> That looks good =A0... 0500 looks bes= t time for a qso .. see you then Smile
> emoticon
>
>
>
> >>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refres= h at 2 minute
> intervals. <<< that could be backed off to=20= =A015 mins as the beacon only
> sends every 15 ??
>
>
>
> the =A015 db over the noise in day time is the =A0same at this=20= qth .. looks
like
> the big dips round 1900 =A0where just when we w= here testing .. =A0typical hihi
>
>
>
> tnx- G .. >
>
>
> From: Gary - G4WGT <mailto:g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
><= br>> Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 7:55 PM
>
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksh= eep.org
>
> Subject: LF: RE: Syncback software
>
>
>
&= gt; LF,
>
>
>
> I have now got the software, Syncbac= k running correctly (I think).
>
>
>
> The purpose o= f this is to upload the chart from Andy's beacon as received
> here to my web site periodically, ie. every 30 minutes.
>
>=
>
> I now have a receiver running 24/7 monitoring Andy,s beacon= on 503.7KHz.
>
>
>
> You can view the chart on my w= eb site at :-
>
>
>
> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber= 3.html
>
>
>
> For the moment ignore the text on= the page as it is originally designed to
> use with the 500KHz grabber when I renew my web site design. If it is a=
> useful upload I will make it a permanent feature but may have to ex= tend
the
> frequency coverage of grabber 1 so not to overload the P= C with operations
> which will cause the PC to struggle.
>
>
>
> Le= t me have your comments please.
>
>
>
> 73
>>
>
> Gary - G4WGT.
>
>
>
> =A0 ___= __
>
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb= _lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT
> Sent: 15 March 2009 16:10
> To: LF -RSGB LF Group
> Subject= : LF: Syncback software
>
>
>
> Hi LF,
>
&g= t;
>
> If anyone is using Syncback software & can help, plea= se.
>
>
>
> I am tying to upload a file to my website who&#= 39;s filename does not change,
> only the file size changes. I tried t= o do it with Argo-upload but failed
so
> I downloaded Syncback &= ; still failing.
>
>
>
> Syncback gives me the following message :-
&= gt;
>
>
> **********************************
>
&g= t; Can connect, but unable to change to destination directory:
>
> /chart01.bmp:not a directory
>
> **************************= ********
>
> The Syncback help does not give me the answer.
&= gt;
>
>
> Any help will be appreciated
>
>
>
> Or
>
>
>
> Will Argo-Upload do it?
&= gt;
>
>
> Or
>
>
>
> Is there some= thing else to do it?
>
>
>
> Thanks in anticipation,=
>
>
>
> 73,
>
>
>
> Gary - G4WG= T - IO83QP.
>
>
>
> =A0 _____
>
>
>= ; No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
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> 06:54:00
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> =A0 _____
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> No vi= rus found in this incoming message.
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--001636c5b1f70703d8046542c865-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me05.mx.aol.com (rly-me05.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.39]) by air-me06.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME064-9b849cb594e2dc; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 06:30:53 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me05.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME054-9b849cb594e2dc; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 06:30:41 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LmmqK-0007kr-Bw for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 10:29:48 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LmmqJ-0007ki-WF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 10:29:48 +0000 Received: from smtp28.orange.fr ([80.12.242.99]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LmmqH-0001rH-7v for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 10:29:47 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2803.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 7A593700008F; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 11:29:37 +0100 (CET) Received: from JR (Mix-Dijon-106-2-29.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.248.129.29]) by mwinf2803.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 40D11700009B; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 11:29:36 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20090326102936265.40D11700009B@mwinf2803.orange.fr Message-ID: <200903261129150736.49E28290@smtp.wanadoo.fr> References: <631056.8814.qm@web63603.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <200903261126110002.49DFB0F1@smtp.wanadoo.fr> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (P) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 11:29:15 +0100 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, ku4xr@yahoo.com, lowfer@mailman.qth.net X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Fwd: Re: [Lowfer] New photos uploaded to MySpace - KU4XR Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=LINES_OF_YELLING, LINES_OF_YELLING_2 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Sorry, running a mix of broadband and dialup here and got addressing wrong. 73 John Rabson F5VLF 58800 Cervon France JN17vg *********** BEGIN FORWARDED MESSAGE *********** On 26/03/2009 at 11:26 John RABSON wrote: > >R, > >I would like to look at this on your PC. > >73 >J > >*********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** > >On 21/03/2009 at 21:33 Andy - KU4XR wrote: > >>Greetings all: >> >>I wanted to post this on multiple lists and sites because I'm excited >>about whatI have accomplished. I have been helping with a TA reception >>experiment forthe past week, and I'm thrilled at what my setup has been >>able to do.I have uploaded a folder to MySpace where I have posted all >>the TA receptions I have to date. Anyone interested in looking may go to >>the web address : >>http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr ::: then go to the " PICS " section and >>you will find the folder named; 600 Meters UK & EU. Browse the other >>photos if you wish. >> >>73 to all, and good DX-ing !! >> >> >>Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN. >>LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz ( QRSS-60 ) >>Coordinates: N: 35* 43' 54" - W: 84* 3' 16" >>http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr >> >> >> >>______________________________________________________________ >>Lowfer mailing list >>Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/lowfer >>Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>Post: mailto:Lowfer@mailman.qth.net >> >>This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > > > > >______________________________________________________________ >Lowfer mailing list >Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/lowfer >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >Post: mailto:Lowfer@mailman.qth.net > >This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > *********** END FORWARDED MESSAGE *********** From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (rly-dd04.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.151]) by air-dd08.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD083-b7449cd2a8017c; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 15:35:50 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD046-b7449cd2a8017c; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 15:35:32 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LnHp7-00060h-MK for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 19:34:37 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LnHp7-00060Y-9O for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 19:34:37 +0000 Received: from mout4.freenet.de ([195.4.92.94]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LnHp6-0002YO-5p for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 19:34:37 +0000 Received: from [195.4.92.14] (helo=4.mx.freenet.de) by mout4.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #76) id 1LnHo6-0000P5-Mx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 20:33:34 +0100 Received: from e177187129.adsl.alicedsl.de ([85.177.187.129]:1303 helo=[192.168.0.100]) by 4.mx.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #79) id 1LnHo6-0001Zs-59; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 20:33:34 +0100 Message-ID: <49CD2A0C.6070104@freenet.de> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 20:33:32 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Wolfgang_B=FCscher?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Lazy Man's CW made it to Venus and back Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi James, Rik, Alberto and the group, Yes an impressive distance.. even though the ERP was a bit above the usual value for amateur radio on 13 cm. AMSAT-DL has applied for, and been granted, a special permission for this experiment which expires at the end of this year. The *principle* was simple: - send a 5 minute carrier on 2.45x GHz, then - receive for 5 minutes, remove impulse noise (WLAN), run the signal through an FFT with ~11 Hz equivalent receiver bandwidth - add all received power spectra to calculate an average (*) - repeat the above until the sigma (standard deviation) in the frequency bins gets low enough to see the weak reflection in one of those bins. - while transmitting, keep the frequency constant to one or two Hz (not as easy as it sounds) - while receiving, permanently compensate the Doppler shift (which a marvellous piece of software by G3RUH did) - during the experiment, keep the dish pointed to Venus with an accuracy better than 0.1° (which another piece of software by G3RUH did) - hope that the 5-kW magnetron, and the cooling system (including a vaccum cleaner and a water cooler from a VW Polo) holds.. (*) A single FFT is not sufficient to lift the signal out of the noise. It was between 8 and 11 dB below the noise in a 10 Hz bandwidth; the ratio of to was between 0.3 and 0.4 dB; the latter measured today when it wasn't raining. This was sufficient to "see" the signal after 2 minutes, so we didn't have to average over consecutive 5-minute-receive intervals. Each dot of the "HI"-message lasted 5 minutes, because that's the approximate travelling time... in other words, "QRSS300" dictated by Venus ;-) Details, including the "Magnetron taming" circuit by DJ4ZC will appear in English language on www.amsat-dl.org hopefully soon. This vital part of the system includes 3 PLL circuits, a servo motor controller for the coarse frequency control (slow mechanical tuning, 6 MHz, on the output waveguide), and a fast controlling loop with about 1.5 MHz (iirc) loop bandwidth which involves 2 * 4CX1000 for the 'faster' frequency control, which also provides the SSB modulation. In fact, the energy not "used" for the SSB signal at a given instance is 'moved away' (spread out) by 15 kHz to both sides of the center frequency. Maybe some of these principles can be used in class-D amplifiers for other frequencies, which finally takes us back to LF / MF-related topics . Cheers, Wolf DL4YHF . James Moritz schrieb: > Dear Wolf, LF Group, > > Congratulations on an excellent achievement - I expect it has broken a > few DX records! I will be interested to hear more about how it was > done, when information becomes available. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc09.mx.aol.com (rly-dc09.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.38]) by air-dc05.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDC054-b3e49af65b5144; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 00:40:11 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc09.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC092-b3e49af65b5144; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 00:40:08 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lf6JM-0006nm-LC for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 05:40:00 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lf6JM-0006nY-2r for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 05:40:00 +0000 Received: from [194.134.42.52] (helo=smtp07.online.nl) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lf6JJ-0002X9-U2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 05:40:00 +0000 Received: from smtp07.online.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp07.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCD7F980DB for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 06:39:23 +0100 (CET) Received: from pa3fnytrqxpddu (s5593e077.adsl.wanadoo.nl [85.147.224.119]) by smtp07.online.nl (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 06:39:23 +0100 (CET) From: To: Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 05:38:27 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-Online-Scanned: by Cloudmark authority (on smtp07.online.nl) X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: RE: QRV Again on 1600m Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Congrats Joe, I will switch on the rx again, 73 Victor -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens jcraig@mun.ca Verzonden: donderdag 5 maart 2009 0:32 Aan: blacksheep Onderwerp: LF: QRV Again on 1600m Dear LF Group, The antenna wire is up again. 184.5093 kHz 10 watts 0.5 amps to 100m wire at 10m height. QRSS75 24/7 Reports most welcomed! 73 & GL Joe VO1NA From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me09.mx.aol.com (rly-me09.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.43]) by air-me03.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINME031-9da49b14e074a; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 11:23:41 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me09.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME096-9da49b14e074a; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 11:23:37 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LfcpL-0006AY-GL for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 16:23:11 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LfcpL-0006AP-4i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 16:23:11 +0000 Received: from mailout01.t-online.de ([194.25.134.80]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LfcpJ-0005iO-Fb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 16:23:11 +0000 Received: from fwd03.aul.t-online.de by mailout01.t-online.de with smtp id 1LfcpF-0006F4-06; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 17:23:05 +0100 Received: from e7010 (Tb2XPBZaYhLqEMVamoZq9dn4-cHnOrYFxixk03daEtnRTL8WyB6fjomyuIjhvnhZtp@[84.147.228.65]) by fwd03.aul.t-online.de with smtp id 1Lfcp4-2FIv8C0; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 17:22:54 +0100 Message-ID: <000a01c99e77$ce5d2f00$1402a8c0@e7010> From: "Walter und Marianne Staubach" To: Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 17:22:55 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4927.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 X-ID: Tb2XPBZaYhLqEMVamoZq9dn4-cHnOrYFxixk03daEtnRTL8WyB6fjomyuIjhvnhZtp X-TOI-MSGID: 898fbe3e-8b8c-4313-acba-ff8ffd5695dd X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: WSPR by DI2AG Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C99E80.2FE8FAD0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C99E80.2FE8FAD0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear All on MF, to complete my mail - the duty cycle will be 33%. 73 Walter DI2AG ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C99E80.2FE8FAD0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear All on MF,
       =20= to=20 complete my mail - the duty cycle will be 33%.
73    Walter DI2AG
 
------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C99E80.2FE8FAD0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc01.mx.aol.com (rly-dc01.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.30]) by air-dc07.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDC072-b0449bac0c22da; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 16:23:58 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc01.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC018-b0449bac0c22da; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 16:23:31 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LiDtu-0004nu-RW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 20:22:38 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LiDtu-0004nl-3Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 20:22:38 +0000 Received: from vms173003pub.verizon.net ([206.46.173.3]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LiDtp-0004v1-K4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 20:22:38 +0000 Received: from DR2 ([71.184.212.10]) by vms173003.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KGG00M4FOL16RZ1@vms173003.mailsrvcs.net> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 15:22:14 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <76D5267D67914AA8851C33ECCF8AA856@DR2> From: "dave.riley3" To: References: Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 16:22:11 -0500 MIME-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Multi-function beacon Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0017_01C9A3F7.DD20E560" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.1 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C9A3F7.DD20E560 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Andy, et al, re: logging program I just plugged in the G3PLX program and it is already collecting data on 529= 0... Will you be on tonight?? 503.700kc ( 502.200 usb ) ? If so I'll leave it parked on you all night with -240 seconds delay. Where do I find the logs stored when session is over?? TNX Dave @ WD2XSH/17 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Andy Talbot=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org ; uk_beacons@yahoogroups.com=20 Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 5:57 AM Subject: LF: Re: Multi-function beacon Just a reminder to all - this beacon is still going, and will probably con= tinue to do so until further notice. A few listeners have downloaded the s= oftware, and thanks to all (you know who your are :-) for the plots / listin= gs. I am not in a position to compile them, so don't expect revelations, b= ut Gerhard / DK6NI has been monitoring pretty well continuously, and has p= lotted some deep fades / enhancements measured over hours with depths in the= regions of 30dB. Are there any stations in the US in a position to monitor ? =20 Please note that if using the recommended 5meg beacon monitoring software=20= you'll either have to set the delta time to -240 (or -180 or -120) seconds o= r adjust the PC clock by two, three or four minutes to cope with the four mi= nute offset I'm running it on. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com =20 2009/3/6 Andy Talbot I've now started transmitting a timed beacon signal on 503.7kHz that is= identical in format to that of GB3SSS operated over the winter months of th= e last two years from Poldhu on 1.9 and 3.5MHz, and has a similar signal s= tructure to the 5MHz beacons, GB3RAL, WES and ORK. These all have an initia= l CW ident and stepped power levels for aural reception, and a precisely def= ined period of full-power plain carrier for S/N measurements. =20 See http://www.rsgb-spectrumforum.org.uk/5mhz%20beacons.htm for the c= omplete 5MHz signal structure. For this MF transmission, as on GB3SSS, the= pulsed sounder sequence of the 5MHz beacons is replaced with a PSK31 messag= e which lasts from 30s to approx 48 seconds after the start Auto Monitoring software writen by G3PLX is available for monitoring the= se beacons, it measures signal to noise during the carrier period and saves=20= to file as well as plotting the last 40 hours worth of measurements. The software can be downloaded from http://www.rsgb.org/spectrumforum/h= f/beaconauto.php . PSK31 data can be copied with Digipan, Fldigi, PSK31SBW= or a host of other packages. TIMING=20 The 503.7kHz transmission takes place every 15 minutes at 4 minutes past= the quarter hour. =20 ie each transmission starts at xx:04, xx:19, xx:34 and xx:49 This tim= e slot has been selected so that the transmission do not interfere with my c= ontinuous ongoing reception of the 5Mhz beacons - the active antenna used fo= r these is overloaded by the 500kHz signal and I have already lost data when= the WSPR beacon transmission coincided with one of the monitoring windows. NOTE If using the G3PLX software, this only monitors for the three 5MH= z beacons at 00, 01 and 02 minutes. SO IT WILL BE NECESSARY TO FRIG THE SOFTWARE to monitor this transmissi= on at the 04 minute point. The necessary alteration can be done by firstly= setting your PC clock accurately to the correct time, then setting the Trac= k Time box to -240 (minus 240 seconds). This will make the software look fo= r this transmission during the time window it thinks it would be receiving G= B3RAL, and log the MF transmission during the first minute, on the red trace= , as if it were GB3RAL=20 The beacon uses the identical hardware to the WSPR transmissions of the=20= last few weeks, with the the only change being a reprogramming of the contro= ller PIC. In fact the very same hardware was previously loaned to the Pold= hu club for their beacons, with the only difference being a change to the fi= nal Low Pass filter on the output of the broadband PA. ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C9A3F7.DD20E560 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Andy, et al, re: logging program=
 
I just plugged in the G3PLX program and it is al= ready=20 collecting data on 5290...
 
Will you be on tonight??   503.700kc&n= bsp; (=20 502.200 usb ) ?
 
If so I'll leave it parked on you all night with= -240=20 seconds delay.
 
Where do I find the logs stored when session is=20 over??
 
TNX
 
Dave @ WD2XSH/17
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Andy Talbot
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 5:57=20 AM
Subject: LF: Re: Multi-function=20 beacon

Just a reminder to all - this beacon is still going, and will probabl= y=20 continue to do so until further notice.   A few listeners have=20 downloaded the software, and thanks to all (you know who your are :-) for=20= the=20 plots / listings.   I am not in a position to compile them, so d= on't=20 expect revelations, but Gerhard  /  DK6NI has been monitoring pr= etty=20 well continuously, and has plotted some deep fades / enhancement= s=20 measured over hours with depths in the regions of 30dB.
 
Are there any stations in the US in a position to monitor=20 ?  
 
Please note that if using the recommended 5meg beacon monitoring soft= ware=20 you'll either have to set the delta time to -240 (or -180 or -120) seconds= or=20 adjust the PC clock by two, three or four minutes to cope with the four mi= nute=20 offset I'm running it on.
 
Andy  G4JNT
2009/3/6 Andy Talbot <andy.g4jnt@goog= lemail.com>
I've now started transmitting a timed  beacon signal on=20 503.7kHz that is identical in format to that of GB3SSS operated ove= r=20 the winter months of the last two years  from Poldhu on 1.9 an= d=20 3.5MHz,  and has a similar signal structure to the 5MHz beacon= s,=20 GB3RAL, WES and ORK.  These all have an initial CW ident=20 and stepped power levels for aural reception, and a precisely=20 defined period of full-power plain carrier for S/N=20 measurements.  
See   http://www.rsgb-spectrumforum.o= rg.uk/5mhz%20beacons.htm =20 for the complete 5MHz  signal structure.  For this MF=20 transmission, as on GB3SSS, the pulsed sounder sequence of the 5MHz beac= ons=20 is replaced with a PSK31 message which lasts from 30s to approx 48=20 seconds after the start
 
Auto Monitoring software writen by G3PLX is available for monitorin= g=20 these beacons, it measures signal to noise during the carrier period and= =20 saves to file as well as plotting the last 40 hours worth of=20 measurements.
The software can be downloaded from  http://ww= w.rsgb.org/spectrumforum/hf/beaconauto.php .  =20 PSK31 data can be copied with Digipan, Fldigi, PSK31SBW or a host of oth= er=20 packages.
 
TIMING
The 503.7kHz transmission takes place every 15 minutes at 4 minutes= =20 past the quarter hour. 
ie each transmission starts at xx:04, xx:19, xx:34 and= =20 xx:49    This time slot has been selected s= o=20 that the transmission do not interfere with my continuous ongoing recept= ion=20 of the 5Mhz beacons - the active antenna used for these is overloaded by= the=20 500kHz signal and I have already lost data when the WSPR beacon transmis= sion=20 coincided with one of the monitoring windows.
 
NOTE   If using the G3PLX software, this=20 only monitors for the three 5MHz beacons at  00, 01 and 02=20 minutes.
SO IT WILL BE NECESSARY TO FRIG THE SOFTWARE=20  to monitor this transmission at the 04 minute=20 point.   The necessary alteration can be done by firstly=20 setting your PC clock accurately to the correct time, then setting=20= the=20 Track Time box to -240 (minus 240 seconds).  This will make the=20 software look for this transmission during the time window it think= s it=20 would be receiving GB3RAL, and log the MF transmission during the f= irst=20 minute, on the red trace, as if it were GB3RAL 
 
The beacon uses the identical hardware to the WSPR transmissio= ns=20 of the last few weeks, with the the only change being=20 a reprogramming of the controller PIC.   In fact the very= =20 same hardware was previously loaned to the Poldhu club for their beacons= ,=20 with the only difference being a change to the final Low Pass filter on=20= the=20 output of the broadband PA.
 

------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C9A3F7.DD20E560-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de12.mx.aol.com (rly-de12.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.148]) by air-de02.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDE023-52049ca56161d4; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 12:04:53 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de12.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE127-52049ca56161d4; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 12:04:40 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LmVaE-0000j0-Sv for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 16:04:02 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LmVaE-0000ir-GO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 16:04:02 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-4-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.55]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LmVaC-0005Kj-8l for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 16:04:02 +0000 X-Trace: 168652841/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.79.140/None/g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.79.140 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Microsoft Office Outlook 11Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AsYEAFfyyUlYak+M/2dsb2JhbACDJ0OGPoNrxFIHg24G X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,419,1233532800"; d="scan'208";a="168652841" Received: from 88-106-79-140.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.79.140]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 25 Mar 2009 16:03:58 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <86B4F549F8F247DDA470143B3BE77364@Hugh> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 16:03:58 -0000 Message-ID: <008c01c9ad63$4e9a9190$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 In-Reply-To: <86B4F549F8F247DDA470143B3BE77364@Hugh> Thread-Index: AcmtWxCqHzXqqxfPR2ShD6cf3pvn0AAB5ugg X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: RE: Re: TDA2003, TDA2030 for PA? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Petr, I have tested a TDA2030 for a 500KHz driver & is OK for 136KHz as other authors have stated. It does fall off very rapidly from 200KHz & higher & is of no use at 500KHz. 73 Gary - G4WGT. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Hugh_m0wye Sent: 25 March 2009 15:01 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: TDA2003, TDA2030 for PA? I successfully made a TDA2030 amplifier which i used for all my intial=20 experimenting on 137kHz Photo http://www.m0wye.radiouk.com/lfamp.jpg The data sheet for this IC claims a bandwidth of 140kHz so it won't work on=20 500kHz. I think I got about 6Watts out. Not all the audio ICs have as much bandwidth as this. You need a matching circuit on the output to convert the low impedance of=20 the amp to 50 ohms - or whatever your antenna system uses. 73 Hugh M0WYE ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Petr Mal=FD" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 1:38 PM Subject: LF: TDA2003, TDA2030 for PA? Hi all, My intention is to build a small transmitter up to some 10W for 136 and 505=20 kHz, this time not the D class, but B or AB class. I think of employing AF amplifiers such as TDA2003, TDA2030, or similar. Of=20 course, mainly 505 kHz is rather out of range so that nothing is guaranteed. This is why I ask before experimenting. Did anybody try to use these for 136/505 kHz? Tks, 73, Petr, OK!FIG http://ok1fig.nagano.cz From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md07.mx.aol.com (rly-md07.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.145]) by air-md10.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD102-91149c6b6cd3a9; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 18:08:21 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md07.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD071-91149c6b6cd3a9; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 18:08:16 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LlVp6-0007GZ-3T for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 22:07:16 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LlVp5-0007GQ-NU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 22:07:15 +0000 Received: from smtp811.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.71]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LlVp3-0005de-Fm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 22:07:15 +0000 Received: (qmail 45945 invoked from network); 22 Mar 2009 22:07:06 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:Importance:In-Reply-To; b=HIUZh3Z4JOMj+k1WShUrbZPPfb4tI2lyayV8gG9R5jhbT40qG+n09PME78/ZD+0RFmNZGVj9XUub/dJ2uK1CrTMFlnFin7wyK27fAQgfnVPkJ8cfOGVlRoy9AfSO9+hy2/mJtp/ryTqA5Ko6bcf8LmsdRtX+dYkeJ3FnZyOkApk= ; Received: from unknown (HELO aquarids) (ganymede444@81.151.248.45 with login) by smtp811.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Mar 2009 22:07:05 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: aicePkkVM1nIqDYNRbdowSa.YQ2II684VzAEI_X0N4OSo52qee012OPRjso81wsasgPdXaMy7iVjZBNDQKIdCceb_Ujc8XtkThdX71_MBRO9V4lxhJSnlPPrkcbNms8AQE7o_dLSMl0nBGBhbTW8Yccb2i8g7wvFmnDh_672h4HX_LMzVUP6u2rfnbFOL8zi9ZNNnV_tlCrWWuIGoVd5WaCjzUNhIlTHiUdxKDeUlfVHY3aAl11N46tvZ6tr9zA- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 From: "Dave G3WCB" To: Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 22:07:11 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <49C508C1.22893.5ECE72@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: RE: 136kHz activity 21 March [G3MFW] Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01C9AB3A.8C9AD520" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C9AB3A.8C9AD520 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit LF, Congratulations to Harry G3MFW for putting a very strong signal into IO91RM. Screenshot attached. Mike G3XDV also captured on the screenshot. Signal strengths measured on my "Tee" antenna with the SPM-30 as follows:- G3XDV -42 dBm G3MFW -61 dBm F6BWO -70 dBm F4DTL -73 dBm Noise floor -80 dBm in 24 Hz bandwidth 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor, SE England -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Mike Dennison Sent: 21 March 2009 15:33 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: 136kHz activity 21 March Thanks to Harry, G3MFW, activity was fairly high on the 136kHz band this morning. I had QRSS3 QSOs with G3MFW, F6BWO and F4DTL, and saw part of the transmission of OE5ODL. Well done Harry. 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2009 18:11:25 +0100 Received: from www9.emo.freenet-rz.de ([194.97.107.202]:55407) by 1.mx.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID exim) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #79) id 1Lmt6z-0001PM-3R; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 18:11:25 +0100 Received: from www-data by www9.emo.freenet-rz.de with local (Exim 4.67 1 (Panther_1)) id 1Lmt6x-0006qT-De; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 18:11:23 +0100 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: dl4yhf@freenet.de X-Priority: 3 X-Abuse: 505770703 / 87.183.136.192 User-Agent: freenetMail MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 18:11:23 +0100 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 2.1 (++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=0.627,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_SHORT_LINK_IMG_2=0.951,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: Lazy Man's CW made it to Venus and back Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=b_01_08aa7d2c8388e3408bfacad0f6110d31 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_12, HTML_MESSAGE,NO_REAL_NAME,PRIORITY_NO_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --b_01_08aa7d2c8388e3408bfacad0f6110d31 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MessageGreetings everyone,

Not really LF, b= ut QRSS...

A group of radio amateurs from AMSAT-DL has successfully t= ransmitted a (very short) message in QRSS, consisting of the two letters "HI= " (im memoriam of old OSCARS) to Venus on 2.4 GHz, and received the reflecti= on.
Each TX/RX over lasted for about 5 minutes (the travelling time). The= transmitter was a 5 kW magnetron disciplined to a narrow-band transmitter.=20= Details on the AMSAT-DL website. The German HR TV will send a documentation=20= tonight at 19:30 (local). The EVE (Earth-Venus-Earth) details follow tomorro= w on Hessischer Rundfunk.

73,
 Wolf DL4YHF
  (from th= e IUZ in Bochum)

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=20 --b_01_08aa7d2c8388e3408bfacad0f6110d31 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Greetings everyone, Not really LF, but QRSS... A group of radio amateurs from AMSAT-DL has successfully transmitted a (very= short) message in QRSS, consisting of the two letters "HI" (im memoriam of=20= old OSCARS) to Venus on 2.4 GHz, and received the reflection. Each TX/RX over lasted for about 5 minutes (the travelling time). The transm= itter was a 5 kW magnetron disciplined to a narrow-band transmitter. Details= on the AMSAT-DL website. The German HR TV will send a documentation tonight= at 19:30 (local). The EVE (Earth-Venus-Earth) details follow tomorrow on He= ssischer Rundfunk. 73, Wolf DL4YHF (from the IUZ in Bochum) #adBox3 {display:none;} --b_01_08aa7d2c8388e3408bfacad0f6110d31-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (rly-dd04.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.151]) by air-dd07.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD072-b7549cd541d48; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 18:33:05 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD047-b7549cd541d48; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 18:33:02 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LnKai-0007Lm-ML for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 22:31:56 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LnKai-0007Ld-7v for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 22:31:56 +0000 Received: from smtp3.citigroup.com ([199.67.203.181] helo=mail.citigroup.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LnKah-0003Zp-7N for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; 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charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Subject: LF: RU6LA calling CQ on 137.700KHz X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) SGVsbG8sDQpJIGNvcHkgUlU2TEEgb24gMTM3LjcwMEtIeiBjYWxsaW5nIENxIGluIFFSU1Mz IQ0KDQpWeTczDQpNYXJjbw0KREQ3UEMNCg0K From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db03.mx.aol.com (rly-db03.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.78]) by air-db06.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDB063-ab549bd39f6236; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 13:25:18 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db03.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB033-ab549bd39f6236; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 13:25:13 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Liu4j-0007eY-IY for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 17:24:37 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Liu4j-0007eP-3X for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 17:24:37 +0000 Received: from mail-ew0-f161.google.com ([209.85.219.161]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Liu4g-0000Dd-UG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 17:24:37 +0000 Received: by ewy5 with SMTP id 5so3793866ewy.4 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 10:24:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=4SW01INcIk0SATSey9u0/SzrMkTo2X61IiE8p2jou3I=; b=IMTKcgCEQtwUHnJRYCp+ggj250uU7+E8tcJ4aoc3CSFKCBA828NPFt60JZh/ITZgW7 XWDxWtUURzX2+KwBSkWRq5Um6a5zdKh2/SjP8lBrHgeFCFV/yMl/4pYu7gyEa7DXfZmo lNz6k3eZlKiFjgQk98FtDC1nPCjWaJv6lZbnU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=QJhJjcicLXT7pbqrrpMVgPMln29mpm4ZKDky38Z1AARAvgNWDOiqgaWyqe7sXeeVDK PjLbmhWdsjKRb6+Bnun83jJBmpw3tCuMBNaf49elAPMLVaJYMj4993bb6AFHjf+k4+Bn lN+IcSbDk4bAhxJAAf+olyJBjZW+vkNGKzL1w= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.29.213 with SMTP id i63mr1511845wea.90.1237137867526; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 10:24:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <200903141634.37933.ve8rt@xplornet.com> References: <200903141634.37933.ve8rt@xplornet.com> Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 17:24:27 +0000 Message-ID: <8bf118410903151024k69053f8cs345c4673ad93deec@mail.gmail.com> From: Dave Pick To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Getting started, maybe Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6db61c021d27504652b9be4 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d244.2 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --0016e6db61c021d27504652b9be4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ron I would recommend a loop antenna, there are various designs around such as Jim M0BMU's design, http://www.wireless.org.uk/BPloops2.pdf Even though you're in the middle of nowhere there, you should stand a chance of getting some of the US 500kHz stations ( www.500kc.com ) going under the calls WD2XSH and WE2XGR with numerical suffixes identifying the individual stations. We in the UK have 10W ERP but it won't be easy to get right over to you... Maybe you could contact some of the US stations in the North and do some test with them first? Good luck! Dave G3YXM. 2009/3/14 Ron Thompson : > I've been reading the occasional posting to the list, wondering if I could > find some time and money to work with. As we do not yet have licences for > the 500KHz band, the best place to start would be setting up for receiving. -- G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK --0016e6db61c021d27504652b9be4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ron

I would recommend a loop antenna, there are various designs arou= nd such as Jim M0BMU's design, http://www.wireless.org.uk/BPloops2.pdf
Even though you= 9;re in the middle of nowhere there, you should stand a chance of getting so= me of the US 500kHz stations ( www.500kc.co= m ) going under the calls WD2XSH and WE2XGR with numerical suffixes iden= tifying the individual stations.
We in the UK have 10W ERP but it won't be easy to get right over to you.= ...
Maybe you could contact some of the US stations in the North and do s= ome test with them first?

Good luck!
Dave G3YXM.

2009/3/14=20= Ron Thompson <ve8rt@xplornet.com>:
> =A0 I've been reading the occasional posting to the list, wondering= if I could
> find some time and money to work with. =A0As we do not y= et have licences for
> the 500KHz band, the best place to start would=20= be setting up for receiving.




--
G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK

--0016e6db61c021d27504652b9be4-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db09.mx.aol.com (rly-db09.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.84]) by air-db02.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB021-aea49cfab12148; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 13:08:45 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db09.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB098-aea49cfab12148; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 13:08:36 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LnyU4-0003mY-G7 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 18:07:44 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LnyU4-0003mP-3W for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 18:07:44 +0100 Received: from mailout09.t-online.de ([194.25.134.84]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LnyU2-0002Wo-1I for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 18:07:44 +0100 Received: from fwd09.aul.t-online.de by mailout09.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 1LnyTx-0002nQ-06; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 19:07:37 +0200 Received: from e7010 (JT5fkOZdYh86fSmJ0NvwLvJb6Pt2JWy3h0iY3pJJ3GqvNx61FoJCOxK2EH5+ukAwHS@[84.147.199.15]) by fwd09.aul.t-online.de with smtp id 1LnyTi-0wXUWm0; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 19:07:22 +0200 Message-ID: <002601c9b090$d1c704b0$1402a8c0@e7010> From: "Walter und Marianne Staubach" To: Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 19:07:19 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4927.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 X-ID: JT5fkOZdYh86fSmJ0NvwLvJb6Pt2JWy3h0iY3pJJ3GqvNx61FoJCOxK2EH5+ukAwHS X-TOI-MSGID: 55ec6053-5348-44a3-9397-565edadc372f X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: DI2AG WSPR QRO Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0023_01C9B0A1.9515D8F0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01C9B0A1.9515D8F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear All on MF, heave just increased the power of DI2AG to 2W ERP and will run th= e beacon this way until tomorrow morning - if the equipment agrees. 73 Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01C9B0A1.9515D8F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear All on MF,
       =    heave just=20 increased the power of DI2AG  to 2W ERP and will run the beacon this wa= y=20 until tomorrow morning - if the equipment agrees.
73   Walter  DI2AG /=20 DJ2LF
 
------=_NextPart_000_0023_01C9B0A1.9515D8F0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me02.mx.aol.com (rly-me02.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.35]) by air-me05.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINME052-99e49c1796f56; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 18:45:15 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me02.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME022-99e49c1796f56; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 18:45:05 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lk4VI-0004xe-JV for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 22:44:52 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lk4VI-0004xV-5D for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 22:44:52 +0000 Received: from imo-d21.mx.aol.com ([205.188.144.207]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lk4VF-0004iJ-Dh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 22:44:52 +0000 Received: from F4DTL@aol.com by imo-d21.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id l.c4f.43f03e68 (65098) for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 18:44:33 -0400 (EDT) From: F4DTL@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 18:44:35 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5029 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: DD7PC beacon Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_c4f.43f03e68.36f2d353_boundary" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --part1_c4f.43f03e68.36f2d353_boundary Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1237416274" -------------------------------1237416274 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Very nice this evening Marco. F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP RX : Icom IC7400 Ant: LF vertical antenna _http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/_ (http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/) -------------------------------1237416274 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Very nice this evening Marco.
 
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--part1_c4f.43f03e68.36f2d353_boundary-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (rly-dd04.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.151]) by air-dd05.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDD053-b7049bd7f4c23e; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 18:21:16 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD042-b7049bd7f4c23e; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 18:21:02 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LiyhU-0000jL-KC for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 22:20:56 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LiyhU-0000jB-37 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 22:20:56 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.151] helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LiyhR-00038Q-Lq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 22:20:56 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3524.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 1FAEF1C00086 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 23:20:48 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.110.65.135]) by mwinf3524.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id CC6EF1C00085 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 23:20:47 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20090315222047837.CC6EF1C00085@mwinf3524.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: References: <200903141634.37933.ve8rt@xplornet.com> <8bf118410903151024k69053f8cs345c4673ad93deec@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8bf118410903151024k69053f8cs345c4673ad93deec@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 22:20:47 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8064.206 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8064.206 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Getting started, maybe Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00DD_01C9A5BC.4A1C1980" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_00DD_01C9A5BC.4A1C1980 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was looking on google earth ... looks to be a lot of sea planes about ..= that would prevent any high mast ?? the location looks a bit tricky ......a low long wire may be good .. but c= an you get one out , looks to have roads all round ? G ..=20 From: Dave Pick=20 Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 5:24 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: Getting started, maybe Ron=20 I would recommend a loop antenna, there are various designs around such as J= im M0BMU's design, http://www.wireless.org.uk/BPloops2.pdf Even though you're in the middle of nowhere there, you should stand a chance= of getting some of the US 500kHz stations ( www.500kc.com ) going under the= calls WD2XSH and WE2XGR with numerical suffixes identifying the individual=20= stations. We in the UK have 10W ERP but it won't be easy to get right over to you... Maybe you could contact some of the US stations in the North and do some tes= t with them first? Good luck! Dave G3YXM. 2009/3/14 Ron Thompson : > I've been reading the occasional posting to the list, wondering if I cou= ld > find some time and money to work with. As we do not yet have licences for > the 500KHz band, the best place to start would be setting up for receiving= . --=20 G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.13/2001 - Release Date: 03/14/09 0= 6:54:00 ------=_NextPart_000_00DD_01C9A5BC.4A1C1980 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I was looking on google earth ... looks to=20= be a=20 lot  of  sea planes about .. that would prevent any high mast=20 ??
 
the  location looks a bit tricky .....= ..a low=20 long wire may be good .. but  can you  get one out , looks to have= =20 roads all round ?
 
G ..

Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 5:24 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Getting started, maybe

Ron

I would recommend a loop antenna, there are vario= us=20 designs around such as Jim M0BMU's design, http://www.wireless.org.uk/BPloops2.pdf
Even=20 though you're in the middle of nowhere there, you should stand a chance of=20 getting some of the US 500kHz stations ( = www.500kc.com ) going under the calls WD2XSH and=20 WE2XGR with numerical suffixes identifying the individual stations.
We in= the=20 UK have 10W ERP but it won't be easy to get right over to you...
Maybe yo= u=20 could contact some of the US stations in the North and do some test with the= m=20 first?

Good luck!
Dave G3YXM.

2009/3/14 Ron Thompson <ve8rt@xplornet.com>:
> &n= bsp; I've=20 been reading the occasional posting to the list, wondering if I could
>= ;=20 find some time and money to work with.  As we do not yet have licences=20 for
> the 500KHz band, the best place to start would be setting up for= =20 receiving.




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YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 23:25:13 +0000 (GMT) From: M0FMT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Re: Fw: Re: LF: energy saving bulbs Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1383344330-1236641113=:21340" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d279.1 ; domain : yahoo.co.uk DKIM : pass --0-1383344330-1236641113=:21340 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Wolfgang =A0 You are probably right and thanks for the information. You probably noticed=20= the "deliberate" mistake in the Diode numbers also ..... remind me to check=20= the spread sheet after I paint and drag a line of data ..hee hee. =A0 The reflector doesn't allow very big attachments so=A0I will send you the= =A0pictures directly. It looks exactly like the one on the site of the URL b= elow.=A0 =A0 I am sure that there is a rig in that line up of parts ... energy saving lam= ps can't be all bad news can they? =A0 Well thanks for the reply and GL 73 Pete fmt. --- On Mon, 9/3/09, Wolfgang B=FCscher wrote: From: Wolfgang B=FCscher Subject: Re: Fw: Re: LF: energy saving bulbs To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Monday, 9 March, 2009, 7:35 PM Hi Pete, Thanks for the 'forensic analysis'. I am tempted to build a high-voltage QRP= transmitter from one of these beasts ;-) Sure that "DK51" is a unijunction transistor ? I found a french site (in fre= nch language) which seems to say that the DK51 is more or less compatible wi= th an MJE13001, which is a 600 Volt, 0.2 A silicon NPN transistor. Looking a= t the circuit, it seems to make sense: http://pagesperso-orange.fr/doumai/Clartec_Lampe/Clartec_Lampe_8W.htm Cheers, Wolf=A0 DL4YHF . =20 --0-1383344330-1236641113=:21340 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <= /tr>
Hi Wolfgang
 
You are probably right and thanks for the information. You probably not= iced the "deliberate" mistake in the Diode numbers also ..... remind me to c= heck the spread sheet after I paint and drag a line of data ..hee hee.
 
The reflector doesn't allow very big attachments so I will send yo= u the pictures directly. It looks exactly like the one on the site of t= he URL below. 
 
I am sure that there is a rig in that line up of parts ... energy savin= g lamps can't be all bad news can they?
 
Well thanks for the reply and GL 73 Pete fmt.

--- On Mon, 9/3= /09, Wolfgang B=FCscher <dl4yhf@freenet.de> wrote:

From: Wolfgang B=FCscher <dl4yhf@freenet.de><= BR>Subject: Re: Fw: Re: LF: energy saving bulbs
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksh= eep.org
Date: Monday, 9 March, 2009, 7:35 PM

Hi Pete,
Thanks for the 'forensic analysis'. I am=20= tempted to build a high-voltage QRP transmitter from one of these beasts ;-)=

Sure that "DK51" is a unijunction transistor ? I found a french site= (in french language) which seems to say that the DK51 is more or less compa= tible with an MJE13001, which is a 600 Volt, 0.2 A silicon NPN transistor. L= ooking at the circuit, it seems to make sense:

= http://pagesperso-orange.fr/doumai/Clartec_Lampe/Clartec_Lampe_8W.htm
Cheers,
Wolf  DL4YHF .




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Hi lf,
strong signal 137khz
henny pa3cpm
73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
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(rly-dd05.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.152]) by air-dd06.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDD062-b7d49aae6b11; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 14:49:20 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd05.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD057-b7d49aae6b11; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 14:49:06 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ldree-0007ps-Ja for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 19:48:52 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ldree-0007pj-7T for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 19:48:52 +0000 Received: from mailout.toya.net.pl ([217.113.224.27] ident=postfix) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ldred-0004ZD-Db for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 19:48:52 +0000 Received: from localhost (unknown [192.168.120.26]) by lazir.toya.net.pl (TOYAnet MailServer) with ESMTP id 40DDE8C241 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 20:48:49 +0100 (CET) X-TOYA-AV: AntyVir-Skaner at toya.net.pl Received: from lazir.toya.net.pl ([192.168.120.25]) by localhost (antyvir.toya.net.pl [192.168.120.26]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fBRiA8xDZN2e for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 20:48:49 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.11.178.152] (lazir [217.113.224.3]) (Authenticated sender: unimlyn) by lazir.toya.net.pl (TOYAnet MailServer) with ESMTP id ECCA88C215 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 20:48:48 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <49AAE6A1.6070104@toya.net.pl> Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 20:48:49 +0100 From: =?UTF-8?B?UGlvdHIgTcWCeW5hcnNraQ==?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,SUBJ_HAS_SPACES=0.651 Subject: Re: LF: Wanted - non-random PN sequence generator - so Off Topic it shouldn't be allowed here! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=SUBJ_HAS_SPACES autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Andy Talbot wrote: >........ >Before I cop-out and just use a pre-generated set of lookup tables, >take a look at http://www.g4jnt.com/WSPR_PN_Sequence.pdf >for a fuller description of the mind-bender > > >Andy G4JNT >www.g4jnt.com > > > Dear Andy, during this weekend i had a free time and i have looked into this random/non-random sequence of wspr tx'ing... are you still interested in this issue? - i just 'played' a little with rnd generator along with the duty cycle of wspr beaconing. i managed to write a short program generating the tx sequence with the restrictions you've mentioned i.e no more than 2 consecutive tx periods and no more than a specified number of rx periods etc.. ( of course, with no cheating.. hihi) if yes, pse let me know so possibly further e-mails could be exchanged directly ... 73 de peter, sq7mpj qth: lodz, poland /jo91rs/ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh06.mx.aol.com (rly-mh06.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.142]) by air-mh03.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMH034-be049abb212312; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 05:16:58 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH068-be049abb212312; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 05:16:52 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Le5CM-0000Qk-HN for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 10:16:34 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Le5CM-0000Qb-67 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 10:16:34 +0000 Received: from blu0-omc1-s4.blu0.hotmail.com ([65.55.116.15]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Le5CK-00036x-Lq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 10:16:34 +0000 Received: from BLU146-W33 ([65.55.116.8]) by blu0-omc1-s4.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 2 Mar 2009 02:16:26 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [117.12.235.42] From: Laurence BY3A-KL1X China To: Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 01:16:26 -0900 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Mar 2009 10:16:26.0529 (UTC) FILETIME=[F220B110:01C99B1F] X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_28d1afa0-b9ea-4cf0-b2af-22242394de33_" Subject: LF: 137.777 -779 window X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_28d1afa0-b9ea-4cf0-b2af-22242394de33_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 At the request of our Russian friends Im running the grabber in the above wi= ndow at dot 120 slow - Conditions are much quieter QRN wise tonight and hope= fully the signals will be as strong tonight giving a better s/n here. =20 Ill be running this till my dawn at around 2300Z maybe earlier. =20 Any new on any VK/ZL operations? Would be an excellent wateryish path from h= ere. =20 With thanks Laurence KL1 X in BY3A area OM89 Grabber http://kl1x.com/dx00000.jpg.com _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail=AE is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast.=20 http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=3DTXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_70faster_032009= =3D --_28d1afa0-b9ea-4cf0-b2af-22242394de33_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable  
At the request of our Russian friends Im running the grabber in the above wi= ndow at dot 120 slow - Conditions are much quieter QRN wise tonight and hope= fully the signals will be as strong tonight giving a better s/n here.
 
 Ill be running this till my dawn at around 2300Z maybe earlier.
 
Any new on any VK/ZL operations? Would be an excellent wateryish path from h= ere.
 
With thanks
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Hotmail=AE is up to 70% faster. Now good news tra= vels really fast. Find out more. =3D --_28d1afa0-b9ea-4cf0-b2af-22242394de33_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd06.mx.aol.com (rly-dd06.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.153]) by air-dd06.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDD061-b8349c38c783b8; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 08:31:07 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd06.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD065-b8349c38c783b8; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 08:30:50 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LkdrM-00034S-ER for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 12:30:00 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LkdrL-00034J-Si for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 12:29:59 +0000 Received: from imo-m13.mx.aol.com ([64.12.143.101] helo=imo-m13.mail.aol.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LkdrJ-0006o9-L5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 12:29:59 +0000 Received: from F4DTL@aol.com by imo-m13.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id l.d40.3a49fd24 (34990) for ; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 08:28:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtprly-da03.mx.aol.com (smtprly-da03.mx.aol.com [205.188.249.146]) by cia-db01.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILCIADB013-5bbe49c38bf932c; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 08:28:45 -0500 Received: from MBLK-M12 (mblk-m12.mblk.aol.com [64.12.136.45]) by smtprly-da03.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYDA035-5bbe49c38bf932c; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 08:28:41 -0400 References: <5931f8db0903200019t15b9a653ua1f46367492d0ec6@mail.gmail.com> <49C36256.29572.48E172A@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 08:28:41 -0400 In-Reply-To: <49C36256.29572.48E172A@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: f4dtl@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL WebMail 41921 - STANDARD Received: from 90.95.53.227 by MBLK-M12.sysops.aol.com (64.12.136.45) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Fri, 20 Mar 2009 08:28:41 -0400 Message-Id: <8CB776E898B2B6D-1240-1733@MBLK-M12.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_AOL_TAGS=0.281,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: Re : LF: 137 KHz reports please Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CB776E8992526F_1240_2F97_MBLK-M12.sysops.aol.com" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_AOL_TAGS,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ----------MB_8CB776E8992526F_1240_2F97_MBLK-M12.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hello Harry, i hope a contact with you saturday. F4DTL Nicolas > If I manage to get my temporary mast up in the wind, I hope to > transmit CQ tomorrow morning Saturday 21st March with QRSS3 on 137.68 > KHz. Running 825 watts input to Decca Tx which was scrapped from the > Isles of Scilly, to a 230 feet long Marconi T, 30 feet up. Earth is a > disused iron water main about 5 miles long. Rx is lazy loop. QTH is at > Porthpean, IO 70 OH, on the cliffs looking out to sea to the east. > Reports most welcome, but I am 79 and struggling! Please be patient! > Harry G3MFW > ________________________________________________________________________ Re?evez AOL Mail sur votre t?l?phone. Vos e-mails accessibles ? tout moment! Cr?ez un e-mail gratuit aujourd?hui. ----------MB_8CB776E8992526F_1240_2F97_MBLK-M12.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Hello Harry, i hope a contact with you saturday.

F4DTL Nicolas




> If I manage to get my temporary mast up in the wind, I hope to
> transmit CQ tomorrow morning Saturday 21st March with QRSS3 on 137.68
> KHz. Running 825 watts input to Decca Tx which was scrapped from the
> Isles of Scilly, to a 230 feet long Marconi T, 30 feet up. Earth is a
> disused iron water main about 5 miles long. Rx is lazy loop. QTH is at
> Porthpean, IO 70 OH, on the cliffs looking out to sea to the east.
> Reports most welcome, but I am 79 and struggling! Please be patient!
>                 Harry G3MFW
>


----------MB_8CB776E8992526F_1240_2F97_MBLK-M12.sysops.aol.com-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc07.mx.aol.com (rly-dc07.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.36]) by air-dc05.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDC051-b3149aa61df12f; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 05:22:41 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc07.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC075-b3149aa61df12f; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 05:22:24 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ldio1-0000D4-FZ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 10:21:57 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ldio1-0000Cr-4W for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 10:21:57 +0000 Received: from ttsmtp-1.cpwnetworks.com ([62.24.128.242] helo=ttsmtp.cpwnetworks.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ldio0-00054W-DM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 10:21:57 +0000 X-Path: TalkTalk-smtp X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuEHAB/wqUlOlART/2dsb2JhbACCMCuBZIcVBssthBoG Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.148.4.83]) by ttsmtp.cpwnetworks.com with SMTP; 01 Mar 2009 10:21:50 +0000 Message-ID: <002d01c99a57$88cdc9f0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 10:21:49 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 137 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002A_01C99A57.8877E1C0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_002A_01C99A57.8877E1C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable DK4U and I5TGC observed this morning on 137.7 de g3kev ------=_NextPart_000_002A_01C99A57.8877E1C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
DK4U and I5TGC observed this morning on=20 137.7
de g3kev
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_002A_01C99A57.8877E1C0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db07.mx.aol.com (rly-db07.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.82]) by air-db09.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDB091-ad849c16ea310b; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 17:59:02 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db07.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB076-ad849c16ea310b; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 17:59:01 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lk3mc-0004NL-BI for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:58:42 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lk3mb-0004NC-W0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:58:41 +0000 Received: from que11.charter.net ([209.225.8.21]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lk3mY-0001ib-Mb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:58:41 +0000 Received: from imp09 ([10.20.200.9]) by mta11.charter.net (InterMail vM.7.09.01.00 201-2219-108-20080618) with ESMTP id <20090318215219.LZHD21265.mta11.charter.net@imp09> for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 17:52:19 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.2] ([68.116.200.100]) by imp09 with charter.net id UlsK1b00J2AU2w405lsKMT; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 17:52:19 -0400 Message-ID: <49C16D13.6050204@charter.net> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 17:52:19 -0400 From: John Andrews User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Ti3 wspr 507.00 tonight and qrss 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) L, I'll try to get an hour or two in, but probably not until 0100 UTC. Will shoot for 1500 Hz = 508.500. John,W1TAG Laurence BY3A-KL1X China wrote: > > Will be "listening" 507 dial wspr and qrss 3 slow 507.000 -507.170 > tonight from my dusk till dawn. > > nominations for modes and freqs near 505 et al for tomorrow welcomed. > > > Laurence ti3/ kl 1 x > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Windows Live™ Groups: Create an online spot for your favorite groups to > meet. Check it out. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.18/2009 - Release Date: 03/18/09 07:17:00 > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf02.mx.aol.com (rly-mf02.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.172]) by air-mf06.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMF063-94549cc346f268; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 22:05:42 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf02.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF023-94549cc346f268; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 22:05:36 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ln1R8-0006fF-I6 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 02:04:46 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ln1R8-0006f6-6d for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 02:04:46 +0000 Received: from vms173003pub.verizon.net ([206.46.173.3]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ln1R6-00068v-4U for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 02:04:46 +0000 Received: from DR2 ([71.184.212.10]) by vms173003.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KH5002SJ73F0Z7H@vms173003.mailsrvcs.net> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 21:04:28 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <7836F4A197B6454CA99D80AAA8086674@DR2> From: "dave.riley3" To: References: Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 22:04:26 -0400 MIME-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: WSPR Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_009F_01C9AE5E.D43F3200" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.8 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_50_60, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_009F_01C9AE5E.D43F3200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Few decodes tonight in rain clutter making background QRN +12 DBs above norm= al... But we do have a winner, 090327 0048 11 -19 1.8 0.503867 M0BMU IO91 33= =20 I must see what is the matter with this pesky COAC ( clutter operated anti c= lutter ) gadget... It's on the blink, by Jove!! TNX Dave @ /17 ------=_NextPart_000_009F_01C9AE5E.D43F3200 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Few decodes tonight in rain clutter making backg= round=20 QRN +12 DBs above normal...
 
But we do have a winner,  090327 0048 = 11=20 -19  1.8   0.503867  M0BMU IO91 33
 
I must see what is the matter with this pesky CO= AC (=20 clutter operated anti clutter ) gadget...
 
It's on the blink, by Jove!!
 
TNX
 
Dave @  /17
 
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_009F_01C9AE5E.D43F3200-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df11.mx.aol.com (rly-df11.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.24]) by air-df08.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDF082-58f49ca553b323; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 12:01:12 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df11.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF118-58f49ca553b323; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 12:01:02 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LmVWZ-0000fB-Ku for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 16:00:15 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LmVWZ-0000f2-6Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 16:00:15 +0000 Received: from mx71.mail.ru ([94.100.176.85]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LmVWW-0005DI-EL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 16:00:15 +0000 Received: from [79.98.8.6] (port=1661 helo=EFREMOV) by mx71.mail.ru with asmtp id 1LmVWP-000B2W-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 19:00:05 +0300 X-Nat-Received: 172.16.10.160 Message-ID: <001801c9ad62$c0e9ae30$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> From: "Andrey rn3agc" To: References: <08BC07D903190E3B12316@kabelmail.de> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:59:16 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: Ok X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: DJ8WX Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 > ...113mWERP... Uwe, last spring how many was? 73 Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md07.mx.aol.com (rly-md07.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.145]) by air-md09.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMD092-91749aebc302fc; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 12:37:01 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md07.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD077-91749aebc302fc; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 12:36:51 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lev1T-0007XB-Lb for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 17:36:47 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lev1T-0007X2-9V for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 17:36:47 +0000 Received: from qw-out-1920.google.com ([74.125.92.146]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lev1S-0007bQ-Ib for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 17:36:47 +0000 Received: by qw-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 4so2946492qwk.16 for ; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 09:36:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=l7lV/VXqeuQc7Fo3gE+/jFgvbPr9w+F+g3tWfJNx56w=; b=BYNCFOxOCbUp6tY5XTmvZGbuWJEC27p82kNskJhKEtOK7nfUFT6ivsiBDoy75IZDFF h2aHfHTy9+wZOuQ1TZPX+oW3ZT+HmUJOXI5WSmnJniqpNUr1W9GuK0XoMo+GyUFSOxb+ tKAnP1HL/rz+2guyP85D4rfXSlAjtIeqHnlEg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=n9GohCwLH3vnYsYP0L/rKB+IiAWHv4OYxgT3FnbBisZvzam5Zxj/7rXHRiXOmobfYB zA+ya9SF3WiFUPgnIJJY3tsdBfLDVC4G3YLcFYwEixDG/jGlQCIzkuLh+5a1knCVd4ZI aYBwHjuMpU5+KjsEGgWuKCzJRGHG2SNBvBz7A= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.28.67 with SMTP id l3mr253912qac.76.1236188205284; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 09:36:45 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 12:36:45 -0500 Message-ID: <57a24ca70903040936g67e9fcbbv5ad007aea09b672c@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: Re: LF: XGJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m259.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Lubos, Thank you for the capture! --=20 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 2009/3/4 Lubos OK2BVG : > 73! > > Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS > > ________________________________ > St=E1hn=ECte si zcela nov=FD Messenger 2009! Klikni zde! --=20 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf07.mx.aol.com (rly-mf07.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.177]) by air-mf08.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMF083-97249cf57a494; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 07:12:42 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf07.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF078-97249cf57a494; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 07:12:38 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LnsvR-0001OD-LB for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 12:11:37 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LnsvR-0001O4-6L for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 12:11:37 +0100 Received: from mail-qy0-f115.google.com ([209.85.221.115]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LnsvP-00058k-3i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 12:11:37 +0100 Received: by qyk13 with SMTP id 13so1107400qyk.30 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 04:10:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=deHSxWU1lcg7ngi6iuerNTjvHeVcnlpfFDXyE7yMKo8=; b=SYxrrtPIa1243TYOeUNzmd/8JIXS8uKdfdaerOM8slmjya2Hd9TAQ69rcUAMbdTjNG VHaTX7x0YTMU0OUVoGKkPZ3dAW4QBHqC8CNXeQWTS4PUjgDmIkGL22MvvkE6LMzRum5T SaozlhtoWIqQ74DGyAGEOUW2VP93nWpb4GhaU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=U9NCfXDL5qSuK4XHKAJHJvmC2lYKKoSaqzRL040G7cFCrapOCGHaB7SBRt/HAOAh5z F11NJ+Rodhjue9xd90CaqW9pSdKkya0JrSHrV6AHvDxp86AuHZYyfj92TObJQAjYqFrH 6BP2jT3jP3rk1d3EFd4LOfogYjZcP3yHEotps= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.54.132 with SMTP id q4mr4798192qag.221.1238325028235; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 04:10:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <64634259.20090329120101@dx.ru> References: <64634259.20090329120101@dx.ru> Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 07:10:28 -0400 Message-ID: <57a24ca70903290410s14960d40wd5f3288de4ff357b@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: XGJ strong Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m283.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Dear Ed, Thank you for the capture! Best XGJ capture from Russia so far! --=20 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 2009/3/29 Ed RU6LA : > Dear LF enthusiasts! > > XGJ was very strong from 3z till 5z in 60s mode of Argo > > Now see some traces (o to M) on abt 710 in 10s mode > > 73! Ed RU6LA =A0 136.73.ru From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db01.mx.aol.com (rly-db01.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.76]) by air-db09.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDB092-aaa49aa595e2ec; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 04:46:19 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db01.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB018-aaa49aa595e2ec; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 04:46:09 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LdiF5-00088E-GM for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 09:45:51 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LdiF4-000885-Vb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 09:45:50 +0000 Received: from mx71.mail.ru ([94.100.176.85]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LdiF4-0004RQ-8v for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 09:45:50 +0000 Received: from [79.98.8.6] (port=9241 helo=EFREMOV) by mx71.mail.ru with asmtp id 1LdiEx-0001za-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 12:45:43 +0300 X-Nat-Received: 172.16.10.160 Message-ID: <001301c99a52$7c3e1910$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> From: "Andrey rn3agc" To: References: <49A91070.9040902@freenet.de> <49A9B2F6.9070607@online.fr> Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 09:45:23 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: Ok X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: RN3AGC and RA3YO Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hello Jean-Pierre, Thanks for the screenshot! Now here 350 watt. Was 400-450 earlier. The aerial - a 40-metre wire, height of the top point of 25 metres, height of the bottom point of 12 metres. A counterbalance is the armature of a many-storeyed building. 73 Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV > Good copy AGC and YO this evening, > what are your conditions ? Andrey > 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf09.mx.aol.com (rly-mf09.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.179]) by air-mf05.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMF053-98049b12e27262; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 09:07:48 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf09.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF096-98049b12e27262; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 09:07:37 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lfahb-0004EQ-Bv for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 14:07:03 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lfahb-0004EH-0U for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 14:07:03 +0000 Received: from psmtp08.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.22]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lfaha-0008Ma-Dq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 14:07:02 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp08.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KG30057D8JIG8@psmtp08.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 15:06:54 +0100 (MET) Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 15:06:49 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <0B735BDA5E9A425B87FB481643E52ECB@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 184khz Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_8b5K37klrSIDZOnwaZwuXQ)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_8b5K37klrSIDZOnwaZwuXQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Hello and All ,nil on the screen Joe, Henny pa3cpm 73s --Boundary_(ID_8b5K37klrSIDZOnwaZwuXQ) Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
Hello and All ,nil on the screen Joe,
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73s
--Boundary_(ID_8b5K37klrSIDZOnwaZwuXQ)-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md04.mx.aol.com (rly-md04.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.142]) by air-md07.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMD074-8fa49c023e010; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 18:28:01 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md04.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD042-8fa49c023e010; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 18:27:46 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ljhl9-0008Gd-QR for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 22:27:43 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ljhl9-0008GU-Et for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 22:27:43 +0000 Received: from yw-out-1718.google.com ([74.125.46.156]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ljhl7-0003Gg-DP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 22:27:43 +0000 Received: by yw-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 5so142679ywm.64 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 15:27:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=FM9OJ7O+SzWhL8t0vo5V7NEQZdFvvoiy1vRGhw6Bhdc=; b=CZ8zZi5T6gCbqOb0gZEcomoUE+Bd/lbJzm9VY6nQrPvGCxIA4ChRe5yNluYD/nkwNJ 45TuyxvCKLqrKbyUGVAiVsqS4RdJ+v2SpIMAqBlLcC8MMsRAsA5Vs0U8rNbToWbPep4B 04vt7BYE9MgJqNfvy8NVZd5Kg+HAff06tWl80= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=piXm8SA+tHzIyonCTa95LZdOViDUprwKw+DompW0hoC6m/3uHd7K6M9cZ0h5OZM92b I8lpkgC6EVfHaqNzcifkGP694JZtlJVXaXMJtYnPz7mntJhxS8c1QvTt2nVFECWYo9i0 2bbT57yLWxL26kHWZJUcmfRIBEHGGVKUZi6GI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.90.93.17 with SMTP id q17mr279282agb.60.1237328858372; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 15:27:38 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <09D7DB9537774AB5A6A57D13F7F5FCCC@Black> References: <09D7DB9537774AB5A6A57D13F7F5FCCC@Black> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 17:27:38 -0500 Message-ID: <57a24ca70903171527y22f3965au67a2523a805d48d8@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: XKO and XGJ in Bavaria Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d255.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Markus, Tnx for the FB report and grabber! -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 4:38 PM, Markus Vester wrote: > Hello Dex and Warren, > > last night, XKO and XGJ were also strong at this end of the world... > http://freenet-homepage.de/df6nm/TA/testTA0903170400.png > > 73 de Markus, DF6NM > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc06.mx.aol.com (rly-dc06.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.35]) by air-dc03.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC032-b2549cea3c6152; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 18:25:22 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc06.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC061-b2549cea3c6152; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 18:25:13 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lngwg-00029V-FN for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 22:24:06 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lngwg-00029M-3J for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 22:24:06 +0000 Received: from mx71.mail.ru ([94.100.176.85]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lngwe-00089D-G2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 22:24:06 +0000 Received: from [79.98.8.6] (port=12500 helo=EFREMOV) by mx71.mail.ru with asmtp id 1LngwM-0003bG-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 01:23:46 +0300 X-Nat-Received: 172.16.10.160 Message-ID: <002601c9aff3$d423f5d0$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> From: "Andrey rn3agc" To: References: <09EEBFEAD3D34FD683AA5838C7343032@ns94d01ae4d850> Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 22:23:16 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: Ok X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: AGC 28-03.jpg Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 TNX Henny! 73 Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV > Nice capture AGC > Henny cpm > best 73s > Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: > agc 28-03.jpg > > Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde > bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden > afgehandeld. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me10.mx.aol.com (rly-me10.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.44]) by air-me02.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME022-9e449abba6cc7; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 05:52:37 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME108-9e449abba6cc7; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 05:52:30 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Le5ki-0000nO-QB for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 10:52:04 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Le5ki-0000nF-Eg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 10:52:04 +0000 Received: from mailfilter11.ihug.co.nz ([203.109.136.11]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Le5kg-0003ty-V2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 10:52:04 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEAKdIq0l2XKjK/2dsb2JhbACNBcg5hBoGg3k X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,288,1233486000"; d="scan'208";a="167543767" Received: from 118-92-168-202.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz (HELO athlon1200) ([118.92.168.202]) by smtp.mailfilter5.ihug.co.nz with SMTP; 02 Mar 2009 23:51:56 +1300 Message-ID: <001f01c99b24$ede8e180$7900a8c0@athlon1200> From: "Dave Brown" To: References: Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 23:52:06 +1300 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: 137.777 -779 window Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Nothing official yet re VK operation- they have to wait till they get the word to start using the band and it seems a long time coming. I checked on this just yesterday with Steve Olney, VK2SRO. Not sure just who might appear when they finally do get the go ahead but Steve is keen. He did quite a lot of work on LF related software etc several years ago of course. For those of you who I volunteered to get copies of articles on phased receiving antenna systems ex Break-In- I have got permission from the BI editor to reproduce same and will be making them available to all who asked for them in the next week or so. 73 Dave, ZL3FJ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurence BY3A-KL1X China" To: Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 11:16 PM Subject: LF: 137.777 -779 window At the request of our Russian friends Im running the grabber in the above window at dot 120 slow - Conditions are much quieter QRN wise tonight and hopefully the signals will be as strong tonight giving a better s/n here. Ill be running this till my dawn at around 2300Z maybe earlier. Any new on any VK/ZL operations? Would be an excellent wateryish path from here. With thanks Laurence KL1 X in BY3A area OM89 Grabber http://kl1x.com/dx00000.jpg.com _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail® is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_70faster_032009 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df08.mx.aol.com (rly-df08.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.21]) by air-df01.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDF013-56d49bb9e7b20d; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 08:09:43 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df08.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF084-56d49bb9e7b20d; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 08:09:33 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LiSfi-0008WF-UB for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 12:08:58 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LiSfi-0008W6-2h for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 12:08:58 +0000 Received: from vms173001pub.verizon.net ([206.46.173.1]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LiSff-0000YV-5I for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 12:08:58 +0000 Received: from DR2 ([71.184.212.10]) by vms173001.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KGH00M9BWEI2ZY2@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 07:08:43 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: From: "dave.riley3" To: Cc: "600MRG" References: Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 07:08:40 -0500 MIME-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Multi-function beacon Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0077_01C9A473.B436E2E0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.1 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0077_01C9A473.B436E2E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Andy, beacons, Looks like the beacon program is up and running correctly as 5 mhz shows rel= ative sigs and frequency counts. Last night conditions here were very poor for T/A on 600m, even with this br= oad high pressure area that helped keep the noise down. Even DI2AM was very=20= weak and SM6BHZ did not decode. So I will run it again on you tonight, but I did see remnanats of what looks= like a letter K during the beacon transmission times from you ( in ARGO QRS= S3 )... Sample of 5290kc. over last night. 2009 03 14 03 00 47.51 39.97 36.06 23.91 0.00 1495.70 1494.14 0.00 2009 03 14 03 15 34.12 37.03 31.32 23.36 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 14 03 30 33.87 30.14 35.05 29.91 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 14 03 45 30.91 26.89 26.38 23.12 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 14 04 00 32.25 44.39 25.68 24.24 0.00 0.00 1494.14 0.00 2009 03 14 04 15 40.13 39.54 35.79 24.24 0.00 1495.51 1494.14 0.00 2009 03 14 04 30 44.71 42.47 29.35 30.72 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 14 04 45 33.16 37.11 35.32 23.03 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 14 05 00 48.07 46.44 34.46 25.30 0.00 1495.90 1494.14 0.00 2009 03 14 05 15 43.12 47.39 30.40 23.83 0.00 1495.70 1494.14 0.00 2009 03 14 05 30 48.13 31.83 37.48 26.50 0.00 1495.70 0.00 0.00 2009 03 14 05 45 47.11 42.90 37.04 22.88 0.00 1495.90 1494.34 0.00 2009 03 14 06 00 28.69 30.99 30.46 23.66 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2009 03 14 06 15 41.04 31.09 29.58 23.29 0.00 1495.90 0.00 0.00 The 'red' station usually seems the strongest on the graph... TNX Dave @ /17 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Andy Talbot=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org ; uk_beacons@yahoogroups.com=20 Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 5:57 AM Subject: LF: Re: Multi-function beacon Just a reminder to all - this beacon is still going, and will probably con= tinue to do so until further notice. A few listeners have downloaded the s= oftware, and thanks to all (you know who your are :-) for the plots / listin= gs. I am not in a position to compile them, so don't expect revelations, b= ut Gerhard / DK6NI has been monitoring pretty well continuously, and has p= lotted some deep fades / enhancements measured over hours with depths in the= regions of 30dB. Are there any stations in the US in a position to monitor ? =20 Please note that if using the recommended 5meg beacon monitoring software=20= you'll either have to set the delta time to -240 (or -180 or -120) seconds o= r adjust the PC clock by two, three or four minutes to cope with the four mi= nute offset I'm running it on. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com =20 2009/3/6 Andy Talbot I've now started transmitting a timed beacon signal on 503.7kHz that is= identical in format to that of GB3SSS operated over the winter months of th= e last two years from Poldhu on 1.9 and 3.5MHz, and has a similar signal s= tructure to the 5MHz beacons, GB3RAL, WES and ORK. These all have an initia= l CW ident and stepped power levels for aural reception, and a precisely def= ined period of full-power plain carrier for S/N measurements. =20 See http://www.rsgb-spectrumforum.org.uk/5mhz%20beacons.htm for the c= omplete 5MHz signal structure. For this MF transmission, as on GB3SSS, the= pulsed sounder sequence of the 5MHz beacons is replaced with a PSK31 messag= e which lasts from 30s to approx 48 seconds after the start Auto Monitoring software writen by G3PLX is available for monitoring the= se beacons, it measures signal to noise during the carrier period and saves=20= to file as well as plotting the last 40 hours worth of measurements. The software can be downloaded from http://www.rsgb.org/spectrumforum/h= f/beaconauto.php . PSK31 data can be copied with Digipan, Fldigi, PSK31SBW= or a host of other packages. TIMING=20 The 503.7kHz transmission takes place every 15 minutes at 4 minutes past= the quarter hour. =20 ie each transmission starts at xx:04, xx:19, xx:34 and xx:49 This tim= e slot has been selected so that the transmission do not interfere with my c= ontinuous ongoing reception of the 5Mhz beacons - the active antenna used fo= r these is overloaded by the 500kHz signal and I have already lost data when= the WSPR beacon transmission coincided with one of the monitoring windows. NOTE If using the G3PLX software, this only monitors for the three 5MH= z beacons at 00, 01 and 02 minutes. SO IT WILL BE NECESSARY TO FRIG THE SOFTWARE to monitor this transmissi= on at the 04 minute point. The necessary alteration can be done by firstly= setting your PC clock accurately to the correct time, then setting the Trac= k Time box to -240 (minus 240 seconds). This will make the software look fo= r this transmission during the time window it thinks it would be receiving G= B3RAL, and log the MF transmission during the first minute, on the red trace= , as if it were GB3RAL=20 The beacon uses the identical hardware to the WSPR transmissions of the=20= last few weeks, with the the only change being a reprogramming of the contro= ller PIC. In fact the very same hardware was previously loaned to the Pold= hu club for their beacons, with the only difference being a change to the fi= nal Low Pass filter on the output of the broadband PA. ------=_NextPart_000_0077_01C9A473.B436E2E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Andy, beacons,
 
Looks like the beacon program is up and running=20 correctly as 5 mhz shows relative sigs and frequency=20 counts.
 
Last night conditions here were very poor for T/= A on=20 600m, even with this broad high pressure area that helped keep the noise dow= n.=20 Even DI2AM was very weak and SM6BHZ did not decode.
 
So I will run it again on you tonight, but I did= see=20 remnanats of what looks like a letter K during the beacon transmission times= =20 from you ( in ARGO QRSS3 )...
 
 
Sample of 5290kc. over last=20 night.
 
2009 03 14 03 00 47.51 39.97 36.06 23.91 0.00 14= 95.70=20 1494.14 0.00
2009 03 14 03 15 34.12 37.03 31.32 23.36 0.00 0.00 0.00=20 0.00
2009 03 14 03 30 33.87 30.14 35.05 29.91 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
2009= 03=20 14 03 45 30.91 26.89 26.38 23.12 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
2009 03 14 04 00 32.= 25=20 44.39 25.68 24.24 0.00 0.00 1494.14 0.00
2009 03 14 04 15 40.13 39.54 35.= 79=20 24.24 0.00 1495.51 1494.14 0.00
2009 03 14 04 30 44.71 42.47 29.35 30.72=20= 0.00=20 0.00 0.00 0.00
2009 03 14 04 45 33.16 37.11 35.32 23.03 0.00 0.00 0.00=20 0.00
2009 03 14 05 00 48.07 46.44 34.46 25.30 0.00 1495.90 1494.14=20 0.00
2009 03 14 05 15 43.12 47.39 30.40 23.83 0.00 1495.70 1494.14=20 0.00
2009 03 14 05 30 48.13 31.83 37.48 26.50 0.00 1495.70 0.00 0.00
2= 009=20 03 14 05 45 47.11 42.90 37.04 22.88 0.00 1495.90 1494.34 0.00
2009 03 14=20= 06=20 00 28.69 30.99 30.46 23.66 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
2009 03 14 06 15 41.04 31.= 09=20 29.58 23.29 0.00 1495.90 0.00 0.00
 
The 'red' station usually seems the strongest on= the=20 graph...
 
TNX
 
Dave @ /17
 
----- Original Message -----
Andy Talbot
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 5:57=20 AM
Subject: LF: Re: Multi-function=20 beacon

Just a reminder to all - this beacon is still going, and will probabl= y=20 continue to do so until further notice.   A few listeners have=20 downloaded the software, and thanks to all (you know who your are :-) for=20= the=20 plots / listings.   I am not in a position to compile them, so d= on't=20 expect revelations, but Gerhard  /  DK6NI has been monitoring pr= etty=20 well continuously, and has plotted some deep fades / enhancement= s=20 measured over hours with depths in the regions of 30dB.
 
Are there any stations in the US in a position to monitor=20 ?  
 
Please note that if using the recommended 5meg beacon monitoring soft= ware=20 you'll either have to set the delta time to -240 (or -180 or -120) seconds= or=20 adjust the PC clock by two, three or four minutes to cope with the four mi= nute=20 offset I'm running it on.
 
Andy  G4JNT
2009/3/6 Andy Talbot <andy.g4jnt@goog= lemail.com>
I've now started transmitting a timed  beacon signal on=20 503.7kHz that is identical in format to that of GB3SSS operated ove= r=20 the winter months of the last two years  from Poldhu on 1.9 an= d=20 3.5MHz,  and has a similar signal structure to the 5MHz beacon= s,=20 GB3RAL, WES and ORK.  These all have an initial CW ident=20 and stepped power levels for aural reception, and a precisely=20 defined period of full-power plain carrier for S/N=20 measurements.  
See   http://www.rsgb-spectrumforum.o= rg.uk/5mhz%20beacons.htm =20 for the complete 5MHz  signal structure.  For this MF=20 transmission, as on GB3SSS, the pulsed sounder sequence of the 5MHz beac= ons=20 is replaced with a PSK31 message which lasts from 30s to approx 48=20 seconds after the start
 
Auto Monitoring software writen by G3PLX is available for monitorin= g=20 these beacons, it measures signal to noise during the carrier period and= =20 saves to file as well as plotting the last 40 hours worth of=20 measurements.
The software can be downloaded from  http://ww= w.rsgb.org/spectrumforum/hf/beaconauto.php .  =20 PSK31 data can be copied with Digipan, Fldigi, PSK31SBW or a host of oth= er=20 packages.
 
TIMING
The 503.7kHz transmission takes place every 15 minutes at 4 minutes= =20 past the quarter hour. 
ie each transmission starts at xx:04, xx:19, xx:34 and= =20 xx:49    This time slot has been selected s= o=20 that the transmission do not interfere with my continuous ongoing recept= ion=20 of the 5Mhz beacons - the active antenna used for these is overloaded by= the=20 500kHz signal and I have already lost data when the WSPR beacon transmis= sion=20 coincided with one of the monitoring windows.
 
NOTE   If using the G3PLX software, this=20 only monitors for the three 5MHz beacons at  00, 01 and 02=20 minutes.
SO IT WILL BE NECESSARY TO FRIG THE SOFTWARE=20  to monitor this transmission at the 04 minute=20 point.   The necessary alteration can be done by firstly=20 setting your PC clock accurately to the correct time, then setting=20= the=20 Track Time box to -240 (minus 240 seconds).  This will make the=20 software look for this transmission during the time window it think= s it=20 would be receiving GB3RAL, and log the MF transmission during the f= irst=20 minute, on the red trace, as if it were GB3RAL 
 
The beacon uses the identical hardware to the WSPR transmissio= ns=20 of the last few weeks, with the the only change being=20 a reprogramming of the controller PIC.   In fact the very= =20 same hardware was previously loaned to the Poldhu club for their beacons= ,=20 with the only difference being a change to the final Low Pass filter on=20= the=20 output of the broadband PA.
 

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Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 11:06 AM
Cc: 'Robert Hemesley'
Subject: LF: AW: 503.7 Multi-function beacon ... Its working=20 !

Hello Graham, Hello Andy,=20

 

reading about your=20 activities concerning Multi-function beacon I tried yesterday evening to cat= ch=20 your signals, but unfortunately with no results copying your sig. May be con= dx=20 were not good enough.  Moreover I had some bad manmade QRM from TV and=20 PC.

 

      As=20= Rob Hemesley told you I am active=20 in 5-MHz-beaco- monitoring specially concerning  scattergram monitoring= in=20 order to analyse signal path situation (direct wave / sky wave=20 behaviour).

      But= I am running both analysis=20 software, GB3RAL.exe and Scattergram.exe and it would not be any problem to=20 modify the internal PC-clock specially regarding GB3RAL.exe in order to anal= yse=20 the long term signal level of your Multi-function beacon. So I will try to=20 continue monitoring your Multi-function beacon hopefully that condx will be=20 better in the next evening sessions (hi).

      If=20= there will be Scattergram acties in=20 future I certainly need some more dB signal level, but it would be very=20 interesting to investigate the signal path=20 situation.

      Of=20= course, this is more interesting=20 for those participants who are located in a distance range between 150 and 3= 00=20 km in order to monitor the slide crossover from direct wave to sky wave sign= al=20 path.

  =20     However, thank you very much for implementation of y= our=20 very interesting Multi-function beacon project and I will keep on running my= =20 monitoring activities and will inform you in any case about further=20 results.

 

vy 73 and a lot of=20 success by running Multi-function beacons, I will be =93on the qui vive=94=20 !!!

 

de Gerhard  / =20 DK6NI  (JN59LN)

 

By the way:=20

Dial frequency 505.2 kHz,=20 is that o.k.? (because GB3RAL.exe is decoding with 1500 Hz=20 too).

For BPSK31-decoding I am=20 using DigiPan Vers.2.0

 

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

 

 

 =

Von:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von = Graham
Gesendet: Sa= mstag, 7. M=E4rz 2009=20 23:46
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Betreff: LF: 503.7 Multi-function beac= on=20 .... Its working !

 

So far so good .. quite a step up in=20 signal round 2100 hrs 

no frequency decode before then , 15=20 db over noise at 2130

 

but a trend showing=20

about  1 hour slow qsb=20

 

any other reports=20 ?

 

G ..=20

 


No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG -=20 www.avg.com
Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.9/1988 - Release D= ate:=20 03/06/09 19:17:00
------=_NextPart_000_0051_01C99FFB.3D1258B0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df10.mx.aol.com (rly-df10.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.23]) by air-df01.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDF013-57f49ab07ca1cd; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 17:10:24 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF102-57f49ab07ca1cd; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 17:10:20 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LdtrJ-0001Xi-OZ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 22:10:05 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LdtrJ-0001XZ-Bf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 22:10:05 +0000 Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.44]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LdtrE-0005PM-14 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 22:10:05 +0000 Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (smtpshost02.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.75]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C66A51C001 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 23:09:37 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F398F3863 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 23:09:37 +0100 (CET) Received: from webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.242.4]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34DDDF3862 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 23:09:37 +0100 (CET) Received: by webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 898C25C3A; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 23:09:37 +0100 (CET) Received: from 93.215-136-217.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (93.215-136-217.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [217.136.215.93]) by webmail4.kuleuven.be (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 23:09:37 +0100 Message-ID: <20090301230937.dere4zr201s00swo@webmail4.kuleuven.be> Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 23:09:37 +0100 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <49AAF908.7040906@charter.net> <20090301223044.8i4kbe2osr5wco8o@webmail4.kuleuven.be> <49AB04A1.2030308@charter.net> In-Reply-To: <49AB04A1.2030308@charter.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 217.136.215.93 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WE2XGR/3 WSPR tonight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) John, I just tuned to 506.5 dial and noticed a constant carrier on 507.998 Maybe a bit up (508.050 ?) would be better. 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charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR, UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m252.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Victor, Thank you for the excellent capture! -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 4:07 AM, wrote: > Captured XGJ and WPF > > 73 > > Victor -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd09.mx.aol.com (rly-dd09.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.156]) by air-dd06.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDD061-b9d49c17b87242; 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Wed, 18 Mar 2009 22:53:41 +0000 Message-ID: <000901c9a81c$6147b5d0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> From: To: "SHMRG@piobaire.mines.ui" , "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep" , Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 18:53:39 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 1.7 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: LF: WE2XGR/2 WSPR Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 WE2XPR/2 will be transmitting in WSPR mode tonight on 508.52 kHz (507.00 dial)...trying for copy by KL1X DXpedition in Costa Rica. Reports from other areas are of course appreciated. Jat W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd10.mx.aol.com (rly-dd10.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.157]) by air-dd02.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDD021-b9f49aae145356; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 14:26:14 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd10.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD101-b9f49aae145356; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 14:25:59 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LdrIB-0007NQ-Hv for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 19:25:39 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LdrIB-0007NH-3b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 19:25:39 +0000 Received: from mailout.toya.net.pl ([217.113.224.27] ident=postfix) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LdrIA-0004rE-2u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 19:25:39 +0000 Received: from localhost (unknown [192.168.120.26]) by lazir.toya.net.pl (TOYAnet MailServer) with ESMTP id 0CD6B8C1D7 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 20:25:37 +0100 (CET) X-TOYA-AV: AntyVir-Skaner at toya.net.pl Received: from lazir.toya.net.pl ([192.168.120.25]) by localhost (antyvir.toya.net.pl [192.168.120.26]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QqgLvV813vg6 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 20:25:36 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.11.178.152] (lazir [217.113.224.3]) (Authenticated sender: unimlyn) by lazir.toya.net.pl (TOYAnet MailServer) with ESMTP id 9EF558C142 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 20:25:36 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <49AAE12F.3040301@toya.net.pl> Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 20:25:35 +0100 From: =?UTF-8?B?UGlvdHIgTcWCeW5hcnNraQ==?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000a01c99a91$a54a1180$1402a8c0@e7010> In-Reply-To: <000a01c99a91$a54a1180$1402a8c0@e7010> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: WSPR on 600m Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------030809060600010907010909" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TITLE_EMPTY,LINES_OF_YELLING,LINES_OF_YELLING_2 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --------------030809060600010907010909 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Walter und Marianne Staubach wrote: > Dear All on MF, > DI2AG will transmit WSPR tonight. Beginning 18UTC, ending 7UTC. > Dial frequency 503.6KHz, beacon on 505.090KHz. Power 1W ERP. Reports > welcome. Please report on WSPRnet.org or this reflector. > > 73 Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF > > > Hello Walter, LF 1822 -22 0.2 0.505094 0 DI2AG JN59 30 1902 -22 0.4 0.505094 0 DI2AG JN59 30 automatic upload is also active .. 73 de peter, sq7mpj qth: lodz, poland /jo91rs/ --------------030809060600010907010909 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Walter und Marianne Staubach wrote:
Dear All on MF,
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0 DI2AG will transmit WSPR tonight. Beginning 18UTC, ending 7UTC.
Dial frequency 503.6KHz, beacon on 505.090KHz. Power 1W ERP. Reports welcome. Please report on WSPRnet.org or this reflector.
=C2=A0
73=C2=A0 Walter=C2=A0 DI2AG / DJ2LF
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
=C2=A0

Hello Walter, LF

1822 -22=C2=A0 0.2=C2=A0=C2=A0 0.505094=C2=A0 0 DI2AG JN59 30
1902 -22=C2=A0 0.4=C2=A0=C2=A0 0.505094=C2=A0 0 DI2AG JN59 30

automatic upload is also active ..

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 73 de peter, sq7mpj

qth: lodz, poland /jo91rs/

--------------030809060600010907010909-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc02.mx.aol.com (rly-dc02.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.31]) by air-dc07.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDC071-b0649b19230242; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 16:14:44 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc02.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC022-b0649b19230242; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 16:14:26 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LfhMu-0001fW-H5 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 21:14:08 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LfhMu-0001fN-52 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 21:14:08 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.151] helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LfhMt-0003L1-7W for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 21:14:08 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3541.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id A0E421C00083 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 22:13:59 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.23.203]) by mwinf3541.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 63C701C00081 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 22:13:59 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20090306211359408.63C701C00081@mwinf3541.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: References: In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 21:13:58 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8064.206 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8064.206 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Looking for HF to LF-Transverter, ... ? Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Marco Some links at :- http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/low-frequency-converters Racal MA1723 .. should not work at 137 but is 'ok' wspr can be generated by a DDS synth as its only a simple frequency change G .. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Scholz, Marco " Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 8:55 PM To: Subject: LF: Looking for HF to LF-Transverter, ... ? > > Dear LF-Group, > sorry for bandwidth, i looking for some sort of of mixer/transverter to > use a shortwave transceiver on 137KHz for WSPR. Can be in experimental > stage, but i need something to start. To build something from scratch is > a bit a challenge for me, so i thought i ask around. Maybe someone has > to sell some parts? > If yes, please send me a mail to dd7pc@gmx.de > > Many thanks, vy73 > Marco > DD7PC > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.8/1987 - Release Date: 03/06/09 > 07:20:00 > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db10.mx.aol.com (rly-db10.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.85]) by air-db01.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDB013-af249b16790156; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 13:12:54 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db10.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB108-af249b16790156; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 13:12:35 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LfeWA-0007QJ-Lw for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 18:11:30 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LfeWA-0007QA-Af for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 18:11:30 +0000 Received: from que61.charter.net ([209.225.8.26]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LfeW9-0008Dq-D2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 18:11:30 +0000 Received: from imp09 ([10.20.200.9]) by mta41.charter.net (InterMail vM.7.09.01.00 201-2219-108-20080618) with ESMTP id <20090306180739.FVAC9620.mta41.charter.net@imp09>; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 13:07:39 -0500 Received: from mp11 ([209.225.8.241]) by imp09 with charter.net id Pu7f1b0025C1j5t05u7fCA; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 13:07:39 -0500 Message-ID: <20090306130739.GO2N0.2065364.root@mp11> Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 10:07:39 -0800 From: To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Cc: 600MRG MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal X-Originating-IP: X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: W1TAG / WE2XGR/3 WSPR Friday night Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME,PRIORITY_NO_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) I will be running a WSPR beacon again tonight on 508.500 kHz (dial freq 507.0 USB) from 2300 to 0300 UTC. The WSPR ID will be W1TAG, as the program doesn't allow for the /3 format. If you should happen to see a WE2XGR ID on the WSPR screen, that will be Jay, W1VD, who sometimes joins these parties. "Locals" will hear a WE2XGR/3 CW ID on my signal every 29 minutes. John Andrews, W1TAG / WE2XGR/3 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df01.mx.aol.com (rly-df01.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.14]) by air-df03.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDF034-52b49aae7c5a4; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 14:53:48 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df01.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF018-52b49aae7c5a4; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 14:53:44 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LdrjG-0007vu-4Y for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 19:53:38 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LdrjF-0007vl-KY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 19:53:37 +0000 Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.44]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LdrjE-00053O-Ju for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 19:53:37 +0000 Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (smtpshost02.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.75]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A71251C00B for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 20:53:28 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBE54F3863 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 20:53:27 +0100 (CET) Received: from webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.242.4]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id D262AF3862 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 20:53:27 +0100 (CET) Received: by webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 897BD5C7A; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 20:53:28 +0100 (CET) Received: from 93.215-136-217.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (93.215-136-217.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [217.136.215.93]) by webmail4.kuleuven.be (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 20:53:28 +0100 Message-ID: <20090301205328.1s1wth6swu0w80c4@webmail4.kuleuven.be> Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 20:53:28 +0100 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000a01c99a91$a54a1180$1402a8c0@e7010> In-Reply-To: <000a01c99a91$a54a1180$1402a8c0@e7010> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 217.136.215.93 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WSPR on 600m Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Walter, good copy here ... after I inserted a 20dB attenuator to keep DI2AM from activating the AGC. WSPR software seems to be sensitive to the receiver AGC action. 1948 -6 1.0 0.505092 0 DI2AG JN59 30 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T Quoting Walter und Marianne Staubach : > Dear All on MF, > DI2AG will transmit WSPR tonight. Beginning 18UTC, ending 7UTC. > Dial frequency 503.6KHz, beacon on 505.090KHz. Power 1W ERP. Reports > welcome. Please report on WSPRnet.org or this reflector. > > 73 Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF > > > > Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md07.mx.aol.com (rly-md07.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.145]) by air-md06.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMD061-91849c157da293; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 16:22:30 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md07.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD078-91849c157da293; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 16:21:48 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lk2GW-00021l-MN for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 20:21:28 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lk2GW-00021c-6L for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 20:21:28 +0000 Received: from psmtp13.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.25]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lk2GT-0003mz-VP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 20:21:28 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp13.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KGP0083UXVCT7@psmtp13.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:21:12 +0100 (MET) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:21:12 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <34B7292B959A41D6B088E9F984F39E73@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: TEST AFJ 18-03.jpg Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_qYW/HSXFnaOFRQfmq/aLMw)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_qYW/HSXFnaOFRQfmq/aLMw) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_8E/fsL/R6/IeMp8ehRWIWQ)" --Boundary_(ID_8E/fsL/R6/IeMp8ehRWIWQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Hi Jean-piere,lf nice capture Henny pa3cpm. 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Hi Jean-piere,lf
nice capture
Henny pa3cpm.
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(VUgWesZOwhB1O3WAQI2jFrpFVVRXbWgTXc1she4BqkZ56SfRmn0rAN42+LIae5nw0n@[93.196.30.47]) by fwd01.t-online.de with esmtp id 1Lf1BU-0Vc4bw0; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 01:11:32 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de To: X-Mailer: T-Online eMail 6.07.0001 Date: 05 Mar 2009 00:11 GMT Message-ID: <1Lf1BU-0Vc4bw0@fwd01.t-online.de> X-ID: VUgWesZOwhB1O3WAQI2jFrpFVVRXbWgTXc1she4BqkZ56SfRmn0rAN42+LIae5nw0n X-TOI-MSGID: e7f45097-8a30-41a3-bab4-522da6783ffa X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: capture 67hz.jpg Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative; Boundary="__Next_1236211885_Part33__" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --__Next_1236211885_Part33__ Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit "Markus Vester" schrieb: Dear Henny, my QTH is about 400 m from a railway line, and I regularly saw their 16.667 Hz power frequency and several ELF harmonics. The E-fields are relatively strong as the lines normally do not carry a grounded top wire for lightning protection. The "modulation" could be caused by some switching activity. Another origin might be a controlled rectifier on the 50 Hz mains, which could be triggered at a subharmonic frequency. Best regards, Markus, DF6NM Dear Markus, I have even thougth that this "67Hz" in reality might have been 66.667 Hz, and this would open other ideas, such as mixer products between 50 Hz and 16,667 Hz etc. HW? 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB ----- Original Message ----- From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 7:43 PM Subject: LF: capture 67hz.jpg Hi,Lf capture unid signal 67hz,but who ? henny pa3cpm best 73s --__Next_1236211885_Part33__ Content-Type: Text/HTML; Charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit T-Online eMail   "Markus Vester" <markusvester@aol.com> schrieb:
Dear Henny,
 
my QTH is about 400 m from a railway line, and I regularly saw their 16.667 Hz power frequency and several ELF harmonics. The E-fields are relatively strong as the lines normally do not carry a grounded top wire for lightning protection. The "modulation" could be caused by some switching activity.
 
Another origin might be a controlled rectifier on the 50 Hz mains, which could be triggered at a subharmonic frequency.
 
Best regards,
Markus, DF6NM


Dear Markus,

I have even thougth that this "67Hz" in reality might have been 66.667 Hz, and this would open other ideas, such as mixer products between 50 Hz and 16,667 Hz etc.

HW?

73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 7:43 PM
Subject: LF: capture 67hz.jpg

Hi,Lf
capture unid signal 67hz,but who ?
henny pa3cpm
best 73s
 

Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 11:06 AM
Cc: 'Robert Hemesley'
Subject: LF: AW: 503.7 Multi-function beacon ... Its working=20 !

Hello Graham, Hello Andy,=20

 

reading about your=20 activities concerning Multi-function beacon I tried yesterday evening to cat= ch=20 your signals, but unfortunately with no results copying your sig. May be con= dx=20 were not good enough.  Moreover I had some bad manmade QRM from TV and=20 PC.

 

      As=20= Rob Hemesley told you I am active=20 in 5-MHz-beaco- monitoring specially concerning  scattergram monitoring= in=20 order to analyse signal path situation (direct wave / sky wave=20 behaviour).

      But= I am running both analysis=20 software, GB3RAL.exe and Scattergram.exe and it would not be any problem to=20 modify the internal PC-clock specially regarding GB3RAL.exe in order to anal= yse=20 the long term signal level of your Multi-function beacon. So I will try to=20 continue monitoring your Multi-function beacon hopefully that condx will be=20 better in the next evening sessions (hi).

      If=20= there will be Scattergram acties in=20 future I certainly need some more dB signal level, but it would be very=20 interesting to investigate the signal path=20 situation.

      Of=20= course, this is more interesting=20 for those participants who are located in a distance range between 150 and 3= 00=20 km in order to monitor the slide crossover from direct wave to sky wave sign= al=20 path.

  =20     However, thank you very much for implementation of y= our=20 very interesting Multi-function beacon project and I will keep on running my= =20 monitoring activities and will inform you in any case about further=20 results.

 

vy 73 and a lot of=20 success by running Multi-function beacons, I will be =93on the qui vive=94=20 !!!

 

de Gerhard  / =20 DK6NI  (JN59LN)

 

By the way:=20

Dial frequency 505.2 kHz,=20 is that o.k.? (because GB3RAL.exe is decoding with 1500 Hz=20 too).

For BPSK31-decoding I am=20 using DigiPan Vers.2.0

 

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

 

 

 =

Von:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von = Graham
Gesendet: Sa= mstag, 7. M=E4rz 2009=20 23:46
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Betreff: LF: 503.7 Multi-function beac= on=20 .... Its working !

 

So far so good .. quite a step up in=20 signal round 2100 hrs 

no frequency decode before then , 15=20 db over noise at 2130

 

but a trend showing=20

about  1 hour slow qsb=20

 

any other reports=20 ?

 

G ..=20

 


No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG -=20 www.avg.com
Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.9/1988 - Release D= ate:=20 03/06/09 19:17:00
------=_NextPart_000_0051_01C99FFB.3D1258B0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df10.mx.aol.com (rly-df10.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.23]) by air-df01.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDF013-57f49ab07ca1cd; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 17:10:24 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF102-57f49ab07ca1cd; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 17:10:20 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LdtrJ-0001Xi-OZ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 22:10:05 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LdtrJ-0001XZ-Bf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 22:10:05 +0000 Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.44]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LdtrE-0005PM-14 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 22:10:05 +0000 Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (smtpshost02.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.75]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C66A51C001 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 23:09:37 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F398F3863 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 23:09:37 +0100 (CET) Received: from webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.242.4]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34DDDF3862 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 23:09:37 +0100 (CET) Received: by webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 898C25C3A; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 23:09:37 +0100 (CET) Received: from 93.215-136-217.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (93.215-136-217.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [217.136.215.93]) by webmail4.kuleuven.be (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 23:09:37 +0100 Message-ID: <20090301230937.dere4zr201s00swo@webmail4.kuleuven.be> Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 23:09:37 +0100 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <49AAF908.7040906@charter.net> <20090301223044.8i4kbe2osr5wco8o@webmail4.kuleuven.be> <49AB04A1.2030308@charter.net> In-Reply-To: <49AB04A1.2030308@charter.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 217.136.215.93 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WE2XGR/3 WSPR tonight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) John, I just tuned to 506.5 dial and noticed a constant carrier on 507.998 Maybe a bit up (508.050 ?) would be better. Sorry to bother you again, I should have checked this before sending =20 my previous mail. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T PS: WE2XVY is indead a real challenge at this side of the pond, but =20 there might be an US audience too tonight. Quoting John Andrews : > Rik, > > Yes, I can use 508.000 as a center frequency. So that'll put the dial > frequency down to 506.500. The WE2XVY signal would certainly be a > challenge for you! > > So XGR/3 will be on 508.000 starting at 2330Z. > > John Andrews, WE2XGR/3 > > > Rik Strobbe wrote: >> Hello John, >> >> is +/- 508.00 instead of 508.50 an option ? >> That way we would have you and WE2XVY (on 507.985) in the same WSPR windo= w ? >> >> 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T >> >> Quoting John Andrews : >> >>> I will run a WSPR beacon on 508.500 kHz tonight from 2330 to 0300 UTC. >>> That's a dial frequency of 507.000 kHz. 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bh=sXqEKgXUZDX1WtyL95sUZYYGSK+HBJ9WrzXx7WCtWdQ=; b=G88E+BV0LNo6vfRwl5JABSlkh7yswgDZB4+lKGcLkDMiWulxE2Ku5rq+DXFmsNLHri tw0ojgjXH/FztEbot24NXeqs1a8hOnv1WDDbw75cvypmD8gyZ4opATd1g3lm+qqu1VHd Jhg0GcZWIHqN/k9vFycGXJLQju6bqwB2ekyzs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=KSr+u5xp8iiSz6dfAVABGWiG43wrBSAk+LvDby2SfL+rPy3BL9PFFnfz64iCDDFMcL DZOGDlbpCdp+qgMTArgpfJJji/Rfp2xCNC9WahNthOUmVpztv+W2CXyGX9W5iu5KeJTz kL+R0FKzm2RiIAfHiJGcf7KNNM9sKC1xceWzo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.67.203 with SMTP id s11mr4774265qai.290.1238325073543; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 04:11:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 07:11:13 -0400 Message-ID: <57a24ca70903290411l23846e89i43f5d524a9e6097b@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: Re: LF: XGJ,WPF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR, UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m252.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Victor, Thank you for the excellent capture! -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 4:07 AM, wrote: > Captured XGJ and WPF > > 73 > > Victor -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd09.mx.aol.com (rly-dd09.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.156]) by air-dd06.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDD061-b9d49c17b87242; 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Wed, 18 Mar 2009 22:53:41 +0000 Message-ID: <000901c9a81c$6147b5d0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> From: To: "SHMRG@piobaire.mines.ui" , "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep" , Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 18:53:39 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 1.7 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: LF: WE2XGR/2 WSPR Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 WE2XPR/2 will be transmitting in WSPR mode tonight on 508.52 kHz (507.00 dial)...trying for copy by KL1X DXpedition in Costa Rica. Reports from other areas are of course appreciated. Jat W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd10.mx.aol.com (rly-dd10.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.157]) by air-dd02.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDD021-b9f49aae145356; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 14:26:14 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd10.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD101-b9f49aae145356; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 14:25:59 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LdrIB-0007NQ-Hv for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 19:25:39 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LdrIB-0007NH-3b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 19:25:39 +0000 Received: from mailout.toya.net.pl ([217.113.224.27] ident=postfix) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LdrIA-0004rE-2u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 19:25:39 +0000 Received: from localhost (unknown [192.168.120.26]) by lazir.toya.net.pl (TOYAnet MailServer) with ESMTP id 0CD6B8C1D7 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 20:25:37 +0100 (CET) X-TOYA-AV: AntyVir-Skaner at toya.net.pl Received: from lazir.toya.net.pl ([192.168.120.25]) by localhost (antyvir.toya.net.pl [192.168.120.26]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QqgLvV813vg6 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 20:25:36 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.11.178.152] (lazir [217.113.224.3]) (Authenticated sender: unimlyn) by lazir.toya.net.pl (TOYAnet MailServer) with ESMTP id 9EF558C142 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 20:25:36 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <49AAE12F.3040301@toya.net.pl> Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 20:25:35 +0100 From: =?UTF-8?B?UGlvdHIgTcWCeW5hcnNraQ==?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000a01c99a91$a54a1180$1402a8c0@e7010> In-Reply-To: <000a01c99a91$a54a1180$1402a8c0@e7010> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: WSPR on 600m Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------030809060600010907010909" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TITLE_EMPTY,LINES_OF_YELLING,LINES_OF_YELLING_2 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --------------030809060600010907010909 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Walter und Marianne Staubach wrote: > Dear All on MF, > DI2AG will transmit WSPR tonight. Beginning 18UTC, ending 7UTC. > Dial frequency 503.6KHz, beacon on 505.090KHz. Power 1W ERP. Reports > welcome. Please report on WSPRnet.org or this reflector. > > 73 Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF > > > Hello Walter, LF 1822 -22 0.2 0.505094 0 DI2AG JN59 30 1902 -22 0.4 0.505094 0 DI2AG JN59 30 automatic upload is also active .. 73 de peter, sq7mpj qth: lodz, poland /jo91rs/ --------------030809060600010907010909 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Walter und Marianne Staubach wrote:
Dear All on MF,
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0 DI2AG will transmit WSPR tonight. Beginning 18UTC, ending 7UTC.
Dial frequency 503.6KHz, beacon on 505.090KHz. Power 1W ERP. Reports welcome. Please report on WSPRnet.org or this reflector.
=C2=A0
73=C2=A0 Walter=C2=A0 DI2AG / DJ2LF
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
=C2=A0

Hello Walter, LF

1822 -22=C2=A0 0.2=C2=A0=C2=A0 0.505094=C2=A0 0 DI2AG JN59 30
1902 -22=C2=A0 0.4=C2=A0=C2=A0 0.505094=C2=A0 0 DI2AG JN59 30

automatic upload is also active ..

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 73 de peter, sq7mpj

qth: lodz, poland /jo91rs/

--------------030809060600010907010909-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc02.mx.aol.com (rly-dc02.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.31]) by air-dc07.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDC071-b0649b19230242; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 16:14:44 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc02.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC022-b0649b19230242; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 16:14:26 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LfhMu-0001fW-H5 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 21:14:08 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LfhMu-0001fN-52 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 21:14:08 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.151] helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LfhMt-0003L1-7W for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 21:14:08 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3541.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id A0E421C00083 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 22:13:59 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.23.203]) by mwinf3541.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 63C701C00081 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 22:13:59 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20090306211359408.63C701C00081@mwinf3541.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: References: In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 21:13:58 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8064.206 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8064.206 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Looking for HF to LF-Transverter, ... ? Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Marco Some links at :- http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/low-frequency-converters Racal MA1723 .. should not work at 137 but is 'ok' wspr can be generated by a DDS synth as its only a simple frequency change G .. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Scholz, Marco " Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 8:55 PM To: Subject: LF: Looking for HF to LF-Transverter, ... ? > > Dear LF-Group, > sorry for bandwidth, i looking for some sort of of mixer/transverter to > use a shortwave transceiver on 137KHz for WSPR. Can be in experimental > stage, but i need something to start. To build something from scratch is > a bit a challenge for me, so i thought i ask around. Maybe someone has > to sell some parts? > If yes, please send me a mail to dd7pc@gmx.de > > Many thanks, vy73 > Marco > DD7PC > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.8/1987 - Release Date: 03/06/09 > 07:20:00 > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db10.mx.aol.com (rly-db10.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.85]) by air-db01.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDB013-af249b16790156; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 13:12:54 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db10.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB108-af249b16790156; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 13:12:35 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LfeWA-0007QJ-Lw for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 18:11:30 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LfeWA-0007QA-Af for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 18:11:30 +0000 Received: from que61.charter.net ([209.225.8.26]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LfeW9-0008Dq-D2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 18:11:30 +0000 Received: from imp09 ([10.20.200.9]) by mta41.charter.net (InterMail vM.7.09.01.00 201-2219-108-20080618) with ESMTP id <20090306180739.FVAC9620.mta41.charter.net@imp09>; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 13:07:39 -0500 Received: from mp11 ([209.225.8.241]) by imp09 with charter.net id Pu7f1b0025C1j5t05u7fCA; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 13:07:39 -0500 Message-ID: <20090306130739.GO2N0.2065364.root@mp11> Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 10:07:39 -0800 From: To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Cc: 600MRG MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal X-Originating-IP: X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: W1TAG / WE2XGR/3 WSPR Friday night Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME,PRIORITY_NO_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) I will be running a WSPR beacon again tonight on 508.500 kHz (dial freq 507.0 USB) from 2300 to 0300 UTC. The WSPR ID will be W1TAG, as the program doesn't allow for the /3 format. If you should happen to see a WE2XGR ID on the WSPR screen, that will be Jay, W1VD, who sometimes joins these parties. "Locals" will hear a WE2XGR/3 CW ID on my signal every 29 minutes. John Andrews, W1TAG / WE2XGR/3 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df01.mx.aol.com (rly-df01.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.14]) by air-df03.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDF034-52b49aae7c5a4; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 14:53:48 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df01.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF018-52b49aae7c5a4; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 14:53:44 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LdrjG-0007vu-4Y for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 19:53:38 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LdrjF-0007vl-KY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 19:53:37 +0000 Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.44]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LdrjE-00053O-Ju for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 19:53:37 +0000 Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (smtpshost02.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.75]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A71251C00B for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 20:53:28 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBE54F3863 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 20:53:27 +0100 (CET) Received: from webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.242.4]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id D262AF3862 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 20:53:27 +0100 (CET) Received: by webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 897BD5C7A; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 20:53:28 +0100 (CET) Received: from 93.215-136-217.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (93.215-136-217.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [217.136.215.93]) by webmail4.kuleuven.be (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 20:53:28 +0100 Message-ID: <20090301205328.1s1wth6swu0w80c4@webmail4.kuleuven.be> Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 20:53:28 +0100 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000a01c99a91$a54a1180$1402a8c0@e7010> In-Reply-To: <000a01c99a91$a54a1180$1402a8c0@e7010> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 217.136.215.93 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WSPR on 600m Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Walter, good copy here ... after I inserted a 20dB attenuator to keep DI2AM from activating the AGC. WSPR software seems to be sensitive to the receiver AGC action. 1948 -6 1.0 0.505092 0 DI2AG JN59 30 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T Quoting Walter und Marianne Staubach : > Dear All on MF, > DI2AG will transmit WSPR tonight. Beginning 18UTC, ending 7UTC. > Dial frequency 503.6KHz, beacon on 505.090KHz. Power 1W ERP. Reports > welcome. Please report on WSPRnet.org or this reflector. > > 73 Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF > > > > Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md07.mx.aol.com (rly-md07.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.145]) by air-md06.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMD061-91849c157da293; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 16:22:30 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md07.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD078-91849c157da293; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 16:21:48 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Lk2GW-00021l-MN for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 20:21:28 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Lk2GW-00021c-6L for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 20:21:28 +0000 Received: from psmtp13.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.25]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lk2GT-0003mz-VP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 20:21:28 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp13.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KGP0083UXVCT7@psmtp13.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:21:12 +0100 (MET) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:21:12 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <34B7292B959A41D6B088E9F984F39E73@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: TEST AFJ 18-03.jpg Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_qYW/HSXFnaOFRQfmq/aLMw)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_qYW/HSXFnaOFRQfmq/aLMw) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_8E/fsL/R6/IeMp8ehRWIWQ)" --Boundary_(ID_8E/fsL/R6/IeMp8ehRWIWQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Hi Jean-piere,lf nice capture Henny pa3cpm. Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: test afj 18-03.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld. --Boundary_(ID_8E/fsL/R6/IeMp8ehRWIWQ) Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
Hi Jean-piere,lf
nice capture
Henny pa3cpm.
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
test afj 18-03.jpg

Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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(VUgWesZOwhB1O3WAQI2jFrpFVVRXbWgTXc1she4BqkZ56SfRmn0rAN42+LIae5nw0n@[93.196.30.47]) by fwd01.t-online.de with esmtp id 1Lf1BU-0Vc4bw0; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 01:11:32 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de To: X-Mailer: T-Online eMail 6.07.0001 Date: 05 Mar 2009 00:11 GMT Message-ID: <1Lf1BU-0Vc4bw0@fwd01.t-online.de> X-ID: VUgWesZOwhB1O3WAQI2jFrpFVVRXbWgTXc1she4BqkZ56SfRmn0rAN42+LIae5nw0n X-TOI-MSGID: e7f45097-8a30-41a3-bab4-522da6783ffa X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: capture 67hz.jpg Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative; Boundary="__Next_1236211885_Part33__" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --__Next_1236211885_Part33__ Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit "Markus Vester" schrieb: Dear Henny, my QTH is about 400 m from a railway line, and I regularly saw their 16.667 Hz power frequency and several ELF harmonics. The E-fields are relatively strong as the lines normally do not carry a grounded top wire for lightning protection. The "modulation" could be caused by some switching activity. Another origin might be a controlled rectifier on the 50 Hz mains, which could be triggered at a subharmonic frequency. Best regards, Markus, DF6NM Dear Markus, I have even thougth that this "67Hz" in reality might have been 66.667 Hz, and this would open other ideas, such as mixer products between 50 Hz and 16,667 Hz etc. HW? 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB ----- Original Message ----- From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 7:43 PM Subject: LF: capture 67hz.jpg Hi,Lf capture unid signal 67hz,but who ? henny pa3cpm best 73s --__Next_1236211885_Part33__ Content-Type: Text/HTML; Charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit T-Online eMail   "Markus Vester" <markusvester@aol.com> schrieb:
Dear Henny,
 
my QTH is about 400 m from a railway line, and I regularly saw their 16.667 Hz power frequency and several ELF harmonics. The E-fields are relatively strong as the lines normally do not carry a grounded top wire for lightning protection. The "modulation" could be caused by some switching activity.
 
Another origin might be a controlled rectifier on the 50 Hz mains, which could be triggered at a subharmonic frequency.
 
Best regards,
Markus, DF6NM


Dear Markus,

I have even thougth that this "67Hz" in reality might have been 66.667 Hz, and this would open other ideas, such as mixer products between 50 Hz and 16,667 Hz etc.

HW?

73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 7:43 PM
Subject: LF: capture 67hz.jpg

Hi,Lf
capture unid signal 67hz,but who ?
henny pa3cpm
best 73s