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From: henny van elst <cpm@planet.nl>
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Hi All,
capture agc wpf
henny cpm
73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
AG WPF 03-02.jpg

Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld.

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi All,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>capture agc wpf</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>henny cpm</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>73s</FONT></DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het volgende 
bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:<BR>AG WPF 03-02.jpg<BR><BR>Opmerking: 
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Graham,

if I had the right software installed probably yes.
Any suggestion what software (preferable freeware) I should use (and =20
where to find it) ?

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

Quoting Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>:

> Thanks Rik
>
> Can you decode them ?
>
> Im just running  two sessions of multipsk , dial set 501 Khz usb , the
> mt63 is  fixed in frequency , 500 to  1000 hz , olivia is cent on  503
> khz carrier .......round  10 to  15 watts each stream
>
> G ..
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> Subject: Re: LF: If anyones about , MT63  x 500 Hz and Olivia 500 x
> 8running now 1935 hrs
>
>>
>> both signals audible in JO20IX
>>
>> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
>>
>> Quoting Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>:
>>
>>> As a follow on to some tests  with Gary  , with Olivia  500 x 8 and the
>>> original MT63 system
>>>
>>> Running  two  data streams now at about 10  watts per mode , carrier
>>> frequencies are :-
>>>
>>> mt63   501.5 to  502 Khz
>>>
>>> olivia 500x8  503 Khz +/-  250 Hz
>>>
>>> The book says mt63 should not print as well as olivia .....
>>>
>>> tnx - G ..
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Also , nil for VO1NA !
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Jay,
First decode tonight 2206Z -28dB,
Bad QRN tonight .
Will keep uploading spots throughout the night to web.

Chris, G3XVL  JO02NB (Ipswich, Suffolk)



2009/2/1 John P-G <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk>

> On Sun, 1 Feb 2009 15:30:29 -0500
> <jrusgrove@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > Confirming start of WSPR transmission 2030Z on 507.000 dial frequency.
> >
> > Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
> >
> Jay, LF,
>
> First decode at 21:48, aafter a few periods of weakly visible signs on
> the waterfall.
>
> 21:48 -28dB
>
> Hope you can keep the transmission going right through the UK sunrise
> period - say to 10:00 UTC.
>
> Cheers,
>
> John
> GM4SLV
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Jay,<br>First decode tonight 2206Z -28dB,<br>Bad QRN tonight .<br>Will keep=20=
uploading spots throughout the night to web.<br><br>Chris, G3XVL&nbsp; JO02N=
B (Ipswich, Suffolk)<br><br><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/2/1 John=
 P-G <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk">=
gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk</a>&gt;</span><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 2=
04, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div><div></div><di=
v class=3D"Wj3C7c">On Sun, 1 Feb 2009 15:30:29 -0500<br>
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jrusgrove@comcast.net">jrusgrove@comcast.net</a>&gt; w=
rote:<br>
<br>
&gt; Confirming start of WSPR transmission 2030Z on 507.000 dial frequency.<=
br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Jay W1VD &nbsp;WD2XNS &nbsp;WE2XGR/2<br>
&gt;<br>
</div></div>Jay, LF,<br>
<br>
First decode at 21:48, aafter a few periods of weakly visible signs on<br>
the waterfall.<br>
<br>
21:48 -28dB<br>
<br>
Hope you can keep the transmission going right through the UK sunrise<br>
period - say to 10:00 UTC.<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
<br>
John<br>
GM4SLV<br>
<br>
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Thanks Henny!

73
Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV


> Hi Lf,
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Yes, I saw that double listing as well, just as I broke off to listen
to G0NBD's Olivia signal.  Just about to return to WSPR, see if that
freq jump can be triggerred.

Andy  G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com



2009/2/1 James Moritz <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>:
> Dear Andy, LF Group,
>
> Should be better now - I have been playing with antennas due to the problem
> that arose yesterday with the increased noise levels. Incidentally, I just
> saw your frequency jump from 503870 to 503885 Hz in the middle of the 1830
> transmission, but still gave 0dB and +3dB SNRs - on two frequencies!
>
> After going out and about with a loop and portable RX, I am now pretty
> certain that the QRM is being radiated from the Brookmans Park transmitter
> site. I am not entirely certain, but there seems to be some correlation
> between the noise and the BBC R5 909kHz transmission audio, the antenna of
> which is about 500m from here. This was also the case before, but the QRM
> level has risen by about 20dB in the last day or so.
>
> As an experiment, I have lashed up an EWE-like antenna, and with suitable
> tweaking this gives about 20dB of unidirectional null, which has brought me
> back to more or less where I was before, at least for signals coming from a
> westerly direction. It is too big to be a permanent fixture, and also
> interacts with the TX antenna. But I think similar or better results will be
> achievable by phasing a vertical antenna against the existing loops here.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Talbot" <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 5:26 PM
> Subject: LF: 'JNT WSPR
>
>
>> Why are you reporting such a low SNR, Jim ?
>
>
>


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Jay,

I am listening, will you give a confirmation when you take off ?

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

Quoting jrusgrove@comcast.net:

> WE2XGR/2 will be transmitting in PSKFEC31 mode tonight on 508.5 kHz
> starting 2130Z and will continue until at least 0100Z and perhaps
> beyond.
>
> PSKFEC31 (PSK31 with forward error correction) can be decoded with the
> colorful program MultiPSK - available at http://www.f6cte.free.fr/ .
> Sunglasses are recommended for the first time user. As far as I know
> there are no other programs that can decode this mode. If anyone has
> info to the contrary please advise.
>
> Some background info on PSKFEC31 and other digital modes as well as
> tests run by W1TAG and myself can be found at
> http://www.w1tag.com/600M_Modes.htm .
>
> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2



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Hi Warren,Lf,
capture XGJ
Henny cpm
73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>73s</FONT></DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het volgende 
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Laurence do you know the city you will be ?
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From: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.comTo: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.orgDate: Th=
u, 12 Feb 2009 00:15:06 -0900Subject: LF: Costa Rica Ops TI3

 Ill be running LF/MF rx operations from Costa Rica from appx 15-20th March=20=
2009 from CATIE (Tropical Agricultural Research and Higher Education Center)=
 Turrialba Centro Costa Rica whilst I refurb the HF commercial station there=
 for Raleigh International, the Youth Development charity. I was last there=20=
in 2003 on LF http://www.kl1x.com/costa.jpg and this time I wont have the lo=
op but will be using a probe - but Im expecting better things than last time=
 as weve figured out a few tricks to improve the s/n/. Rx will be SDR IQ and=
 PA0RDT probe plus LDF's, which are an easier transit as Ill be in and out v=
ia China -  This location afforded an excellent path to Eu and Americas'  on=
 LF and even though we were surrounded by volcanic mountains I managed to wo=
rk Argentina on 6m nearly every night last time around. The coasts arent tha=
t far away either side... I wont have Tx (I think) but call will be as then=20=
TI3/ KL 1 X From June or so this coming year it looks like Ill be working ou=
t of Abu Dhabi A61 for a while - no chance of a license there so it seems bu=
t will try to get the rx system on line. Laurence BY3A/ KL1 X, G4DMA



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Laurence do you know the city you will be ?<BR>
Thanks <BR>
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&nbsp;<BR>Ill be running LF/MF rx operations from Costa Rica from appx 15-20=
th March 2009 from CATIE (Tropical Agricultural Research and Higher Educatio=
n Center) Turrialba Centro Costa Rica whilst I refurb the HF commercial stat=
ion there for Raleigh International, the Youth Development charity.<BR>&nbsp=
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">http://www.kl1x.com/costa.jpg</A>&nbsp;and this time I wont have the loop=20=
but will be using a probe - but Im expecting better things than last time as=
 weve figured out a few tricks to improve the s/n/. Rx will be SDR IQ and PA=
0RDT probe plus LDF's, which are an easier transit as Ill be in and out via=20=
China - <BR>&nbsp;<BR>This location afforded an excellent path to Eu and Ame=
ricas'&nbsp; on LF and even though we were surrounded by volcanic mountains=20=
I managed to work Argentina on 6m nearly every night last time around. The c=
oasts arent that far away either side...<BR>&nbsp;<BR>I wont have Tx (I thin=
k) but call will be as then TI3/ KL 1 X<BR>&nbsp;<BR>From June or so this co=
ming year it looks like Ill be working out of Abu Dhabi A61 for a while - no=
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Hi Warren,Lf
Capture XGJ
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Willem,
     Yes low power last night. The power supply problem is solved,  I
will soon be QRO again.
Thanks for the capture, your receiving setup is working very well!
-- 
73 Warren K2ORS
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On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 12:23 AM,  <victor13@online.nl> wrote:
> Still qrp Warren?
>
> 73
>
> Victor


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Hi Joe,lf,

captured a part of your callsign at 00:30z

73

Victor

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SDR-IQ Plot showing the signal at 0730z  (amplitude scale is
calibrated, antenna 7m high Tee)

http://www.g4jnt.com/WE2XGR_SpectPlot.JPG

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John GM4SLV wrote:
> I think you mean the "north-east part of _England_"?
> 
> The QTH alluded to is actually in the _southern_ part of the UK

Yes, of course... I was thinking of England but I wrote UK. Sorry...
The latitude of your QTH is even a few degrees north of mine.

73
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Gudday Stan,

Saw call and thought of ZL3MG, Roger, small world...  Also cobber @ Canterbu=
ry Aero Club...

Am glad to finally hear the ZLs coming in Stan even if on this noise free e-=
mail, hihi...

Invercargill? Queenstown?? Come back...

ZLB?

73s from Dave @ WD2XSH/17


  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Mike-WE0H=20
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  Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 6:51 PM
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  Hi Stan,

  You might have another 20 years to go. 80 isn't an old fart yet...hi hi...

  Someone will have to post the details on how to subscribe & unsubscribe fr=
om this email reflector. I can't find the original message. It is something=20=
you have to do from your email address.

  Mike
  WE0H



  Stan wrote:=20
       Would you please close my  connection blacksheep. org.

      At  80  years I am finding that I am a  bit out of place..

       Thank you    Stan Andrews    ZL4MB

73
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<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=3D2>Gudday Stan,</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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=20
world...&nbsp; Also cobber @ Canterbury Aero Club...</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=3D2></FONT></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
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on this noise free e-mail, hihi...</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=3D2></FONT></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=3D2>Invercargill? Queenstown?? Come=20
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<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=3D2>ZLB?</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=3D2>73s from Dave @ WD2XSH/17</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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      At  80  years I am finding that I am a  bit out of place..

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DE WD2XSH/17 QSW WSPR 503.900kc  ( .502400 ssb dial )

TNX FM DAVE AT THE WESTERN TOWER  www.radiocom.net/Fessenden  





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Hi Mark,

 

Thanks for looking & your reply.

 

I did it manually & as it was my first a bit time consuming, I think the
Excel macro will ease the data retrieval part at least, I will give it a
try.

 

It makes the levels more interesting in that format.

 

73

 

Gary - G4WGT

 

  _____  

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Mark
Sent: 25 February 2009 17:03
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: Re: 500khz wspr spreadsheet 

 

Hi Gary, very interesting, especially the correlation of the signal
strengths which seems moderately high.

for those wishing to do similar processing of WSPR data, I have written an
Excel macro that enables you to extract data from the web database very
quickly, and also converts the text based time date fields to a usable (ie
plottable) format.

http://www.dc2light.co.uk/getwspr1.6.xls

no warranty offered or implied.

it doesn't seem to work under openoffice either..

Hope this is of use

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Gary - G4WGT <mailto:g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>  

To: LF <mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>  -RSGB LF Group 

Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 4:38 PM

Subject: LF: 500khz wspr spreadsheet

 

Hi LF,

 

I have created a MS Excel spread-sheet for my WSPRing last night. I have
uploaded it to my website as it is too large for the LF group forum. On
three worksheets there is a graph in marker format, a graph in line format &
the data from the five stations who reported to the WSPR Spots page.

 

It is my first attempt at an Excel chart, please let me know what you think.
It can be downloaded at :-

 

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/WSPR01.xls

 

73,

 

Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.

 


  _____  



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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue;font-weight:bold'>I did it
manually &amp; as it was my first a bit time consuming, I think the Excel ma=
cro
will ease the data retrieval part at least, I will give it a try.<o:p></o:p>=
</span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue;font-weight:bold'>It makes
the levels more interesting in that format.<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

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=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue;font-weight:bold'><o:p>&nb=
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G4WGT<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

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owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or=
g] <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Mark<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 25 February 2009 17:03<=
br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.=
org<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> LF: Re: 500khz wspr
spreadsheet </span></font><span lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10=
.0pt; font-family:Arial'>Hi Gary, very interesting, especially the correlati=
on of the
signal strengths which seems moderately high.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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.0pt; font-family:Arial'>for those wishing to do similar processing of WSPR=20=
data, I
have written an Excel macro that enables you to extract data from the web
database very quickly, and also converts the text based time date fields to=20=
a
usable (ie plottable) format.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10=
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F: 500khz wspr
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:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Hi LF,<o:p></o:p></span></font>=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>I have created a MS Excel sprea=
d-sheet for
my WSPRing last night. I have uploaded it to my website as it is too large f=
or
the LF group forum. On three worksheets there is a graph in marker format, a
graph in line format &amp; the data from the five stations who reported to t=
he
WSPR Spots page.<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>It is my first attempt at an Ex=
cel chart,
please let me know what you think. It can be downloaded at :-<o:p></o:p></sp=
an></font></b></p>

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a><o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
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Hello Warren, LF!
Is is still snowing. XGJ signal was very good this morning.

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

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Dave Riley write about loop antennas:
> As for the CONS, well I just don't think of any...  Somebody??
> 
There are two 'cons' that I can think of. One is the weight of the 
low-loss wire required. This would cause a problem in my own case as 
local restrictions lead me to use a fairly fragile mast. The other is 
directivity in the form of two sharp nulls.

I have used a loop in the past and for a short while held the 73kHz 
distance record using it. However, after some comparitive tests, I 
opted for a Marconi which at that frequency had similar 'gain' but 
was almost omnidirectional.

In all other respects you are, of course, right.

Mike, G3XDV
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Lower voltages to deal with beneath the coil too.

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> From: g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 00:19:07 +0000
> Subject: Re: LF: Re: LF Antennas - back to basics
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> Jim,
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> Yes I can confirm this :-
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> >>>>
> increasing the height of the top loading, even if only in the middle, does
> lead to substantial improvements. One benefit of doing this is that the
> effective height and radiation resistance is increased by increasing the
> average height of the antenna wires
> >>>>
>=20
> I made a substantial improvement to the original inverted L system, 35=20
> feet x 40 foot top , by adding a loading coil to the top of the vertical=20
> section (actually the 40 feet of top wire wound round a coke bottle) and=20
> providing 2 x 40 ft capacity wires 6 feet apart back to the house.
>=20
> Earth is everything that conducts in the garden bonded along with a couple=
=20
> of 12 ft alloy scaffold poles sunk in, to one point along with a couple=20
> of 50 foot ground lying wires as well, feed is via a auto transformer and=20=
a=20
> variometer in series , I did use a parallel tuner but this flashes over=20
> above 50 watts ,
>=20
> A bonus , is the system now works well on 1.8 and 3.5 Mhz as well . but=20
> with a very high Q , 20 Khz qsy on 3.8 is enough for the pa to trip on vsw=
r
>=20
> Notably, Gary, has modelled his array , similar 35 ft vertical section,=20
> using mmana and he favours the loading coil to be placed mid section, the=20
> offset capacity section of my array dose produce a slight slew of the=20
> pattern, but nothing too radical
>=20
> tnx- G ..
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> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "James Moritz" <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>
> Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 11:43 PM
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Subject: LF: Re: LF Antennas - back to basics
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> >
> > Dear Andy, Dave, LF Group,
> >
> > My experience is that improvements to the ground system soon reach a poi=
nt
> > of diminishing returns where the ground connection losses are small=20
> > compared
> > to other losses - I would expect you have reached that point already. In=
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> > my
> > case, literally filling the garden with wire made at best about 0.5dB
> > improvement by reducing loss resistance, compared to having about 5 grou=
nd
> > rods spaced a few metres around the downlead and loading coil. However
> > increasing the height of the top loading, even if only in the middle, do=
es
> > lead to substantial improvements. One benefit of doing this is that the
> > effective height and radiation resistance is increased by increasing the
> > average height of the antenna wires. If you are in a fairly built-up
> > environment, the improvement is probably more than you would expect from
> > calculating the effective height from the dimensions of the antenna=20
> > itself,
> > because increasing the physical height of the antenna puts it further=20
> > above,
> > or nearer the top of, screening buildings and trees etc., that are
> > surrounding it. Also, moving the antenna further above loss-causing=20
> > objects
> > leads to a modest reduction in the loss resistance. In my case, with an
> > inverted L about 10m high at the ends and sagging to 9m in the middle,
> > propping up the middle of the span with a fibreglass pole to about 14m
> > increases ERP by 3 - 4dB.
> >
> > As to possible advantages and disadvantages of a loop compared to a
> > vertical, in general the loop ought to benefit from lower dielectric=20
> > losses
> > due to the generally lower voltages. The directional pattern is often
> > helpful on receive. But the figure-of-eight directional pattern could al=
so
> > be a drawback for a transmit antenna where it isn't practical to rotate=20
> > the
> > antenna to avoid having nulls in awkward directions. Also, one has to=20
> > think
> > about the scale. AA1A's loop is quite big in overall dimensions compared=
=20
> > to
> > G4JNT's vertical. The radiation resistance of a loop is proportional to=20
> > the
> > square of the area, which is proportional to the square of the linear
> > dimensions of the loop conductor - so when scaling down a loop, one woul=
d
> > expect Rrad to reduce much faster than Rloss due to reduction in=20
> > perimeter,
> > and so efficiency of relatively small loops to be poor.
> >
> > Cheers, Jim Moritz
> > 73 de M0BMU
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----=20
> > From: "Andy Talbot" <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>
> > To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 4:16 PM
> > Subject: LF: LF Antennas - back to basics
> >
> >
> >> Firstly, bearing in mind there is no scope whatsoever to raise one end
> >> of the capacity hat which is defined by the apex of the house roof,
> >> and the other end would also need some major sugery to raise its heigh
> >> substantially, that only leaves the middle, ie the height of the
> >> actual radiator. It wouldn't be too difficult to raise this to 10m
> >> or even more with a fibreglass pole, but will I be throwing away all
> >> the advantage by having the top-hat drooping down to 7m?
> >>
> >> Secondly, pictures of other peoples antennas aften show a substantial
> >> grounding plate immediately under and around the antenna base. Just
> >> how far out is is worth going with a really substantial base. I
> >> could cut more conductors into the ground; while the ground is still
> >> is still soggy in March may be a good time to do this.
> >>
> >> Any ideas please ...?
> >>
> >>
> >> Andy G4JNT
> >> www.g4jnt.com
> >>
> >
> >
> >
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Lower voltages to deal with beneath the coil too.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
<BR>&nbsp;<BR>&gt; From: g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk<BR>&gt; To: rsgb_lf_group@b=
lacksheep.org<BR>&gt; Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 00:19:07 +0000<BR>&gt; Subject:=
 Re: LF: Re: LF Antennas - back to basics<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Jim,<BR>&gt; <BR>=
&gt; Yes I can confirm this :-<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt; inc=
reasing the height of the top loading, even if only in the middle, does<BR>&=
gt; lead to substantial improvements. One benefit of doing this is that the<=
BR>&gt; effective height and radiation resistance is increased by increasing=
 the<BR>&gt; average height of the antenna wires<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR=
>&gt; <BR>&gt; I made a substantial improvement to the original inverted L s=
ystem, 35 <BR>&gt; feet x 40 foot top , by adding a loading coil to the top=20=
of the vertical <BR>&gt; section (actually the 40 feet of top wire wound rou=
nd a coke bottle) and <BR>&gt; providing 2 x 40 ft capacity wires 6 feet apa=
rt back to the house.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Earth is everything that conducts in=20=
the garden bonded along with a couple <BR>&gt; of 12 ft alloy scaffold poles=
 sunk in, to one point along with a couple <BR>&gt; of 50 foot ground lying=20=
wires as well, feed is via a auto transformer and a <BR>&gt; variometer in s=
eries , I did use a parallel tuner but this flashes over <BR>&gt; above 50 w=
atts ,<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; A bonus , is the system now works well on 1.8 and 3.=
5 Mhz as well . but <BR>&gt; with a very high Q , 20 Khz qsy on 3.8 is enoug=
h for the pa to trip on vswr<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Notably, Gary, has modelled hi=
s array , similar 35 ft vertical section, <BR>&gt; using mmana and he favour=
s the loading coil to be placed mid section, the <BR>&gt; offset capacity se=
ction of my array dose produce a slight slew of the <BR>&gt; pattern, but no=
thing too radical<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; tnx- G ..<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; --------------=
------------------------------------<BR>&gt; From: "James Moritz" &lt;james.=
moritz@btopenworld.com&gt;<BR>&gt; Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 11:43 P=
M<BR>&gt; To: &lt;rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org&gt;<BR>&gt; Subject: LF: Re:=20=
LF Antennas - back to basics<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; Dear Andy, D=
ave, LF Group,<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; My experience is that improvements=20=
to the ground system soon reach a point<BR>&gt; &gt; of diminishing returns=20=
where the ground connection losses are small <BR>&gt; &gt; compared<BR>&gt;=20=
&gt; to other losses - I would expect you have reached that point already. I=
n <BR>&gt; &gt; my<BR>&gt; &gt; case, literally filling the garden with wire=
 made at best about 0.5dB<BR>&gt; &gt; improvement by reducing loss resistan=
ce, compared to having about 5 ground<BR>&gt; &gt; rods spaced a few metres=20=
around the downlead and loading coil. However<BR>&gt; &gt; increasing the he=
ight of the top loading, even if only in the middle, does<BR>&gt; &gt; lead=20=
to substantial improvements. One benefit of doing this is that the<BR>&gt; &=
gt; effective height and radiation resistance is increased by increasing the=
<BR>&gt; &gt; average height of the antenna wires. If you are in a fairly bu=
ilt-up<BR>&gt; &gt; environment, the improvement is probably more than you w=
ould expect from<BR>&gt; &gt; calculating the effective height from the dime=
nsions of the antenna <BR>&gt; &gt; itself,<BR>&gt; &gt; because increasing=20=
the physical height of the antenna puts it further <BR>&gt; &gt; above,<BR>&=
gt; &gt; or nearer the top of, screening buildings and trees etc., that are<=
BR>&gt; &gt; surrounding it. Also, moving the antenna further above loss-cau=
sing <BR>&gt; &gt; objects<BR>&gt; &gt; leads to a modest reduction in the l=
oss resistance. In my case, with an<BR>&gt; &gt; inverted L about 10m high a=
t the ends and sagging to 9m in the middle,<BR>&gt; &gt; propping up the mid=
dle of the span with a fibreglass pole to about 14m<BR>&gt; &gt; increases E=
RP by 3 - 4dB.<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; As to possible advantages and disad=
vantages of a loop compared to a<BR>&gt; &gt; vertical, in general the loop=20=
ought to benefit from lower dielectric <BR>&gt; &gt; losses<BR>&gt; &gt; due=
 to the generally lower voltages. The directional pattern is often<BR>&gt; &=
gt; helpful on receive. But the figure-of-eight directional pattern could al=
so<BR>&gt; &gt; be a drawback for a transmit antenna where it isn't practica=
l to rotate <BR>&gt; &gt; the<BR>&gt; &gt; antenna to avoid having nulls in=20=
awkward directions. Also, one has to <BR>&gt; &gt; think<BR>&gt; &gt; about=20=
the scale. AA1A's loop is quite big in overall dimensions compared <BR>&gt;=20=
&gt; to<BR>&gt; &gt; G4JNT's vertical. The radiation resistance of a loop is=
 proportional to <BR>&gt; &gt; the<BR>&gt; &gt; square of the area, which is=
 proportional to the square of the linear<BR>&gt; &gt; dimensions of the loo=
p conductor - so when scaling down a loop, one would<BR>&gt; &gt; expect Rra=
d to reduce much faster than Rloss due to reduction in <BR>&gt; &gt; perimet=
er,<BR>&gt; &gt; and so efficiency of relatively small loops to be poor.<BR>=
&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; Cheers, Jim Moritz<BR>&gt; &gt; 73 de M0BMU<BR>&gt; &=
gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; ----- Original Message ----- <BR>&gt; &gt; From: "Andy Talb=
ot" &lt;andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; To: &lt;rsgb_lf_group@bla=
cksheep.org&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 4:16 PM<BR>&g=
t; &gt; Subject: LF: LF Antennas - back to basics<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;<=
BR>&gt; &gt;&gt; Firstly, bearing in mind there is no scope whatsoever to ra=
ise one end<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt; of the capacity hat which is defined by the ape=
x of the house roof,<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt; and the other end would also need some=
 major sugery to raise its heigh<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt; substantially, that only l=
eaves the middle, ie the height of the<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt; actual radiator. It=20=
wouldn't be too difficult to raise this to 10m<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt; or even more=
 with a fibreglass pole, but will I be throwing away all<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt; th=
e advantage by having the top-hat drooping down to 7m?<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;<BR>&=
gt; &gt;&gt; Secondly, pictures of other peoples antennas aften show a subst=
antial<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt; grounding plate immediately under and around the ant=
enna base. Just<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt; how far out is is worth going with a really=
 substantial base. I<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt; could cut more conductors into the gro=
und; while the ground is still<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt; is still soggy in March may=20=
be a good time to do this.<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt; Any ideas pleas=
e ...?<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt; Andy G4JNT<BR>&gt;=
 &gt;&gt; www.g4jnt.com<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &=
gt;<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; No virus found in t=
his incoming message.<BR>&gt; &gt; Checked by AVG - www..avg.com<BR>&gt; &gt=
; Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.3/1974 - Release Date: 02/26/09=20=
<BR>&gt; &gt; 14:51:00<BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR><br /><hr />Window=
s Live=99: Discover 10 secrets about the new Windows Live.   <a href=3D'http=
://windowslive.com/connect/post/jamiethomson.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!550F68=
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Hello all,

This opens up scope for a completely new DXCC challenge.
For example who can achieve 5BDXCC in 20 minutes.

Me thinks the contests aficiados should like this very much indeed!

73,
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No Graham... it is in your CMOS boot set-up....you should be able to adjust 
the PCI bus speed, or perhaps the clock divider speed that the bus clock is 
based on....73...Jordan....


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> Jordan
>
> ... Er no .. but what to  set and what to adjust .?. I assumed the  clock 
> was on the  sound card .. small xtal oscillator ?
>
> Tnx
>
> G ..
>
> --------------------------------------------------
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> Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 1:08 AM
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>>
>> Have you tried adjusting the PCI bus settings in CMOS..?
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 5:09 PM
>> Subject: Re: LF: Re: wspr and the over clocked sound card .. whats the 
>> final
>> position ??
>>
>>
>>> Jordan
>>>
>>>
>>> The card is a PCI  ,   M - Audio Delta 4
>>>
>>> running with windows  xp-pro
>>>
>>> There are a selection of clock speeds .. but  it seems that when a
>>> application runs . it defaults to the 44k setting .. but  for all other
>>> software .. no problem .. works very well
>>>
>>> G ..
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> From: "Jordan" <outposter30@shaw.ca>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 11:59 PM
>>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>>> Subject: LF: Re: wspr and the over clocked sound card .. whats the 
>>> final
>>> position ??
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Is this for an on-board sound card, and if not, what type of bus is it
>>>> on..?
>>>> 73...Jordan....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
>>>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 4:50 PM
>>>> Subject: LF: wspr and the over clocked sound card .. whats the final
>>>> position ??
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> wspr and the over clocked sound card
>>>>>
>>>>> Was there a resolve to the  problem of the  short wspr  tx produced by 
>>>>> a
>>>>> soundcard that was running  slightly  faster than it  should
>>>>>
>>>>> 1.5 seconds short .....  about 1 %
>>>>>
>>>>> , resulting in no decodes for strong signals .. presumably by 
>>>>> providing
>>>>> too many sync's
>>>>>
>>>>> There is no way of changing the  sample  rate of the  card .. there is 
>>>>> a
>>>>> option in the  driver . but  as soon as wspr  runs . the  card reverts
>>>>> to
>>>>> the  normal 44 khz setting
>>>>>
>>>>> No problems with any of the  other  systems as the  card can be
>>>>> calibrated
>>>>> (though not  needed)
>>>>>
>>>>> any  fixes or ideas ??
>>>>>
>>>>> tnx
>>>>>
>>>>> Graham ..
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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Hi Dave, LF,

I will probably close down about 0000utc + or -.

Only about 5 watts RF to antenna, frequency 503.915KHz.

73

Gary - G4WGT.


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Subject: LF: WSPRs

DE WD2XSH/17 tuned for WSPRs from G4JNT and G4WGT on or about 503.900 +/- 
100HZ.

Please advise your quitting times, else will let it run all night...

TNX

Dave


re: 
http://wsprnet.org/meptspots.php?mode=html&band=2190&limit=50&findcall=&find
reporter=&sort=date





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Hi Warren
capture XGJ
Henny cpm
73s
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both signals audible in JO20IX

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

Quoting Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>:

> As a follow on to some tests  with Gary  , with Olivia  500 x 8 and the
> original MT63 system
>
> Running  two  data streams now at about 10  watts per mode , carrier
> frequencies are :-
>
> mt63   501.5 to  502 Khz
>
> olivia 500x8  503 Khz +/-  250 Hz
>
> The book says mt63 should not print as well as olivia .....
>
> tnx - G ..



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Dear LF enthusiasts!

Strange (or not ?) info from "The Weekly DX" bulletin
Vol 9, Nr 5, 2.2.2009 :
40 Meter expansion
Starting March 30th Amateur Radio operators from both South Korea and
Japan will be allocated Amateur Radio use in the 7.1 to 7.2 MHz
range. Japan is also expected allocation on 135 KHz.
<skip>

73! Ed RU6LA   136.73.ru


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Hi Joe,lf
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Hi Warren,lf
capture XGJ
Henny cpm
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Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Warren,lf</FONT></DIV>
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> Jay
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> Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 5:20 PM
> Subject: Re: LF: WE2XGR/2 in MFSK8
>
>
> Here Stream and Multipsk are working side by side for almost 1 hour
> now (fingers crossed).
> However no copy so far.
> I leave them running overnight.
>
> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
>
> Quoting jrusgrove@comcast.net:
>
>> Gary
>>
>> The program keeps running okay here.
>>
>> A couple other points though. Unlike Multipsk one has to specify the
>> lower edge of the bandpass - not the middle. This is 120 Hz below the
>> center. In other words if 800 Hz is your received audio center
>> frequency set the frequency to 680. Maybe there is a way to set it to
>> the center...if so I havn't found it.
>>
>> The bigger problem is with other applications running at the same time.
>> Just opened an internet browser and copy went to garbage. MultiPSK kept
>> decoding properly.
>>
>> Jay
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 4:54 PM
>> Subject: RE: LF: WE2XGR/2 in MFSK8
>>
>>
>>> Jay, LF,
>>>
>>> I also downloaded Stream & it runs for about 30 seconds & freezes.
>>>
>>> 73 - Gary - G4WGT.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>>> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of
>>> jrusgrove@comcast.net
>>> Sent: 07 February 2009 21:42
>>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>>> Subject: Re: LF: WE2XGR/2 in MFSK8
>>>
>>> Rik and group
>>>
>>> Confirming start at 2130Z.
>>>
>>> Downloaded Stream earlier and was unable to get it to work. MultiPSK wor=
ks
>>> fine. May very well be
>>> cockpit error. Will  look into it.
>>>
>>> Jay
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rik Strobbe"    =20
>>> <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
>>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 4:28 PM
>>> Subject: Re: LF: WE2XGR/2 in MFSK8
>>>
>>>
>>>> Jay,
>>>>
>>>> It just downloaded / installed stream (IZ8BLY).
>>>> RX / PC is on 508.5 overnight
>>>>
>>>> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
>>>>
>>>> Quoting jrusgrove@comcast.net:
>>>>
>>>>> WE2XGR/2 will be transmitting in MFSK8 mode on 508.5 kHz from 2130Z -
>>>>> 0000Z tonight. Reports are appreciated.
>>>>>
>>>>> When using MultiPSK as the decoder be advised that the program has bee=
n
>>>>> known to occasionally go on 'walkabout' after loss of signal. Stopping
>>>>> and restarting the decoder seems to solve the problem.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jay  W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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Dear Graham, LF Group,

I have two instances of FLdigi running - getting some copy with Olivia:

CQ CQ CQ 5~..g$o3d  g0nbd  g0nbd io79B i1E0a DE&&s
Lbd  g0nbd  goD'j
 CENoQ C@oTt.g0nbda_<0nbdo
bd  kkk

The Olivia signal is faintly audible here, but the MT63 seems to be 
undetectable by any means! I will leave it running for a while, I expect 
signal levels will pick up later.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU
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Subject: LF: If anyones about , MT63 x 500 Hz and Olivia 500 x 8 running now 
1935 hrs


> As a follow on to some tests  with Gary  , with Olivia  500 x 8 and the 
> original MT63 system



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From: henny van elst <cpm@planet.nl>
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Hi lf
capture AGC
henny cpm
73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
agc 05-02.jpg

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi lf</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>capture AGC</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>henny cpm</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>73s</FONT></DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het volgende 
bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:<BR>agc 05-02.jpg<BR><BR>Opmerking: 
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Best copy I managed - not brilliant.

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]y,)~4~KP%Beacon >>> de G0NBD
00NBD:72 G0NBD  ARQ TEST  PLS CONNECT  O@IVIA  650 X 8  KKK5A4A


Using MultiPSK - I don't think there is a "connect" option.

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2009/2/1 Andy Talbot <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>:
> Copy abt 50% of your transmission, but its weak and much QRM.  Tried
> replying, but not sure how to "connect".  Just replied manually using
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> Andy  G4JNT
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> 2009/2/1 Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>:
>>
>> FLDIGI  IN FLARQ MODE  OLIVIA 250 x 8   503 CENTRE   FREQ
>>
>> Running  olivia 250 x 8  503 khz centre frequency
>> Software   FLDIGI , with  FLARQ  module running beacon 60  seconds , rx
>> open,
>> mycall set to  G0NBD
>> pls try connect .. should work .....
>> Graham .
>> http://www.w1hkj.com/Fldigi.html
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Hi Joe and LF
nothing seen Joe
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Hi Warren,Lf
capture XGJ
Heny CPM
73S
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
XGJ 21-02.jpg

Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld.

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Warren,Lf</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>capture XGJ</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Heny CPM</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>73S</FONT></DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het volgende 
bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:<BR>XGJ 21-02.jpg<BR><BR>Opmerking: 
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Hello Henny, Willem,
Thanks for the screenshots!

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Mike,
     1st U.K. report in a long, long time!
Thanks for the report and capture!
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Dear QRM-haunted fellows,

Searching around for something "completely different", I found this site 
which may be interesting for some members of the group:

http://brneurosci.org/fluorescent-lamp-interference.html

It describes how to reduce interference caused by some energy-saving lamps.

On the same website, there is also an article about a varctor tuned loop 
antenna, where the author found the "Q" of the resonant antenna was 
higher when tuned with varactor diodes, than with an air variable 
capacitor (?!) :

http://brneurosci.org/loopantenna.html

73,
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Hi Joe
capture VO1NA
Henny cpm
73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
VO1NA 18-02.jpg

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>73s</FONT></DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het volgende 
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Hi Warren,lf

capture of xgj at 5:38z

73

Victor

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On Tue, 3 Feb 2009, jcraig@mun.ca wrote:

  Many thanks to Henny, Jean-Pierre, Victor and Vern
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  Joe



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Andy Talbot wrote:

> By any reckoning this constitutes a QSO - even for contest purposes

Ha-ha! LOL! ROTFL!

I agree but do expect a comment or two from the north-east part of the UK! ;-)

73
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FLDIGI  IN FLARQ MODE  OLIVIA 250 x 8   503 CENTRE   FREQ

Running  olivia 250 x 8  503 khz centre frequency 

Software   FLDIGI , with  FLARQ  module running 
beacon 60  seconds , rx open, 

mycall set to  G0NBD 

pls try connect .. should work ..... 

Graham .  

http://www.w1hkj.com/Fldigi.html

 



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2009/2/18 Lubos OK2BVG <bvgbob@hotmail.com>:
> Hello Warren, LF!
> FB signal
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first traces at 2210Z, first decode at 2230Z

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

Quoting Chris McCarthy <chris.decibel@googlemail.com>:

> Jay,
> First decode tonight 2206Z -28dB,
> Bad QRN tonight .
> Will keep uploading spots throughout the night to web.
>
> Chris, G3XVL  JO02NB (Ipswich, Suffolk)
>
>
>
> 2009/2/1 John P-G <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk>
>
>> On Sun, 1 Feb 2009 15:30:29 -0500
>> <jrusgrove@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> > Confirming start of WSPR transmission 2030Z on 507.000 dial frequency.
>> >
>> > Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>> >
>> Jay, LF,
>>
>> First decode at 21:48, aafter a few periods of weakly visible signs on
>> the waterfall.
>>
>> 21:48 -28dB
>>
>> Hope you can keep the transmission going right through the UK sunrise
>> period - say to 10:00 UTC.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> John
>> GM4SLV
>>
>>
>



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Many thanks Henny, and also Brian KG8CO, Jean-Pierre F1AFJ, and
Victor PA3FNY for the recent reports of the beacon on 184.5093 kHz.

73
Joe

On Thu, 12 Feb 2009, henny van elst wrote:

> Hi Joe,LF
> Just a litlle trace vo1na
> henny cpm
> 73s
> Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
> VO1NA 12-02.jpg
>
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Saw what looked like a CW beacon separated by long ( 8 second dash? ) in 
between on 503.950 but it was too weak to make aural ID, however it looked 
like Finbar's CW beacon signature.

This was last night ( Saturday ).

Local QRN was up about 3-4 db masking other sigs as well...


TNX

Dave @ WD2XSH/17



 



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Hi Joe,
nothing on the screen,
henny cpm
73s

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>nothing on the screen,</FONT></DIV>
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Andy, LF,

Forwarded from Dave 

Gary.

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Hi Gary,

Could you please forward to group?

The blacksheep server thinks I am trying to spam it...

TNX from Dave




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> 090226 0406   1 -29  0.0   0.503869  G4JNT IO90 23          
> 090226 0610   3 -29  0.0   0.503869  G4JNT IO90 23          
> 
> SAW LOTS OF REMNANTS BUT ONLY 2 DECODES
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> QSL SURE OM VIA E-MAIL
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> 
> TNX DE DAVE @ AA1A
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No decodes so far tonight on WSPR but weak lines on WSPR screen and weak 
sigs on ARGO are consistent with sigs supposed to be on G4JNT frequency...

Looks like 3 or so more DB would have done it...

TNX

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Hi Rudolf, LF,
capture last night in 22.15z

73
Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>sri capture DTL</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>nice signal nicolas</FONT></DIV>
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Gary,

solid copy, -13dB SNR here with little QSB
G4JNT is -5 / +5dB SNR, remarkable more QSB.

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> Running WSPR beacon tonight for a while.
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Hi Warren
capture XGJ
Henny cpm
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XGJ 10-02.jpg

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Hello Henny ,
Yes , very good conditions for me , last night !
73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

henny van elst a =E9crit :
> Hi Jean-Pierre,
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> very nice capture
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Hello Joe , LF ,

Very good copy last night of VO1NA
( my first full callsing )
see capture .

73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj





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<font face="Arial">How 'bout those hot Russian women?   Yower!!! <span  class="moz-smiley-s1"><span> :-) </span></span><br>
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  <br>
&gt; Scott said:<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; The TIL Grabber has reconfigured RX antennas to favour the over
the pole <br>
&gt; path and has begun listening runs at QRSS60 at the request of our <br>
&gt; colleagues in central Russia in the 2200m wateringhole
(137775-137781Hz).<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Sorry that means my null is now aimed at the boys on the east
coast of <br>
&gt; the USA...<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Keep tabs on the fun and excitement here:<br>
&gt; <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www3.telus.net/sthed/argo/">http://www3.telus.net/sthed/argo/</a><br>
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Hi LF,
Capture last night in 22.30z.

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Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV

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Hi Joe well done on repairing your antenna. It seems as though the predicted
coronal-hole event was very mild and should not affect LF propagation
significantly. The outlook now is for good to very good night-time
conditions on LF, allowing for the multi-path fading of course, over the
rest of the week.

Best Wishes
Alan G3NYK




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Thanks to G7AQA, ON7YD, W1TAG, W0RPK, VE3EAR, K3SIW and W3NF for the reports. Transmitter was shut 
down at 0200Z. Looks like this mode is a bit of a stretch for T/A work although Mike was able to
pull out a few clean lines of copy.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2



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Hi Jay, LFers,

You're pounding in here this evening before our local sunset.
If I can find one, I might try patching in an attenuator in the
feedline and see how much I can reduce the signal before
it starts dropping decodes.  Thanks for being on!

73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
Solar and wind powered
Lowfer " EAR"  188.830
EN93dr

http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle




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Hi All,
capture UA4WPF
Henny pa3cpm
73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
UA4WPF.jpg

Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld.

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi All,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>capture UA4WPF</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Henny pa3cpm</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>73s</FONT></DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het volgende 
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Hi Graham, LF.

Both modes printing at 100pc but I am too close to make any comparison at
these strengths.

If someone from a greater distance can set up two instances of Multipsk &
monitor both together & report here on LF that would be ideal.

73

Gary - G4WGT.

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Subject: LF: If anyones about , MT63 x 500 Hz and Olivia 500 x 8 running now
1935 hrs

As a follow on to some tests  with Gary  , with Olivia  500 x 8 and the 
original MT63 system

Running  two  data streams now at about 10  watts per mode , carrier 
frequencies are :-

mt63   501.5 to  502 Khz

olivia 500x8  503 Khz +/-  250 Hz

The book says mt63 should not print as well as olivia .....

tnx - G ..

 





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Mostly in Jest, but food for thought...

The WSPR database with its complete record of who has heard whom with
date, time , frequency, locator, report and stated Tx power opens up
an interesting philosophical concept.

If the database records that A has heard B, and B has heard A, then
the stations have exchanged reports, location and a piece of unique
information.   By any reckoning this constitutes a QSO - even for
contest purposes.   So now, I don't have to sit in front of a rig
waffling or tapping,  or even be in the shack, or even awake, to have
a valid QSO.   I can be on continuously, 24/7/52.14775  to take
advantage of lifts and anti-social-hours propagation.

Lets do this on all the bands!  Choose a modulation type matched to
the RF medium and bandwidth, and just get on with it.
Throw away those microphones, and definitely those funny tappy 19th
centuary things.

There is one downside: a permanant internet connection to upload
real-time reports.   BUT this could even herald a rebirth for packet
radio if local amateurs could set up simple forwarding nodes to
suitable internet connections?


Andy  G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com


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nil on the screen Joe,
henny cpm
best 73s

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>nil on the screen Joe,</FONT></DIV>
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Am seeing activity on 503.900 but no WSPR decodes...

Just widely separated dashes of about 8 seconds length...

QRU




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From: "Andy Talbot" <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>
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Subject: LF: WSPR Spots


> According to the WSPR Spot database, there is some "interesting" DX
> being received chez GM4ISM.
> Is there some carrier or coherent  QRM present to generate these false 
> hits?
>
> Just got a WSPR generating routine running on a 16F628 PIC with AD9852
> DDS combination.
> At the moment it only operates at 100% duty cycle, but I'm Looking at
> PN sequences for randomised transmission slots with 20/25/33% Duty
> cycle operation.
>
> Andy  G4JNT
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Hi Warren,
capture XGJ
Henny cpm
73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
XGJ 24-02.jpg

Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld.

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Warren,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>capture XGJ</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Henny cpm</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>73s</FONT></DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het volgende 
bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:<BR>XGJ 24-02.jpg<BR><BR>Opmerking: 
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Hello Warren, LF!
Band was very noisy last night.

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

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> Hello Uwe, Markus, LF,
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Hi Lf,
Capture WPF
Henny cpm
73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
WPF.jpg

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Lf,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Capture WPF</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Henny cpm</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>73s</FONT></DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het volgende 
bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:<BR>WPF.jpg<BR><BR>Opmerking: Sommige 
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Hello Warren,Lf,
nice capture XGJ
Henny CPM
73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
XGJ 15-02.jpg

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hello Warren,Lf,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>nice capture XGJ</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>73s</FONT></DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het volgende 
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Rik,

Open two instances of Multipsk, set the receiver to 501KHz USB.

On one Multipsk select MFSK16 & click the cursor at 1000 on the waterfall &
on the other Multipsk select Olivia then the Olivia mode to 8x500, button
just over the waterfall then click the cursor on 2000.

You should now be up & running both modes.

73

Gary - G4WGT.


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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Rik Strobbe
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Subject: Re: LF: Olivia 500 x 8 MFSK16 NOW RUNNING

Graham,

I just installed multipsk.
I believe it is the most chaotic programme I have ever seen.

Right now 21:28UTC I hear alternating signals on 502 and 503.

As I am not in the mood of reading the multipsk manual today could you  
just tell me what mode is running where and what dial frequency / mode  
(USB or LSB) I should set the RX to?

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

Quoting Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>:

> Modes changed
>
> MT63   STOPPED
>
> MFSK16 ,  Centre freq   1000 Hz audio
>
> Approx  15 watts peak per stream
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> Thanks for reports .. will run this config  an hour or so
>
> G ..
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 7:39 PM
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> Subject: LF: If anyones about , MT63  x 500 Hz and Olivia 500 x 8
> running now 1935 hrs
>
>>
>> As a follow on to some tests  with Gary  , with Olivia  500 x 8 and the
>> original MT63 system
>>
>> Running  two  data streams now at about 10  watts per mode , carrier
>> frequencies are :-
>>
>> mt63   501.5 to  502 Khz
>>
>> olivia 500x8  503 Khz +/-  250 Hz
>>
>> The book says mt63 should not print as well as olivia .....
>>
>> tnx - G ..
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Dear Jay, LF Group,

No copies of WE2XGR this morning - the PC clock has mysteriously advanced by 
4 or 5 seconds, which may be why. Also, the termination of the EWE antenna 
is under a foot of snow, which has probably unbalanced it and brought the 
noise level up a bit!

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU



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Subject: Re: LF: WE2XGR/2 in PSKFEC31
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Jay,

the result of my overnight monitoring

73, Rik


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Quoting jrusgrove@comcast.net:

> Rik & group
>
> Confirming start of PSKFEC31 at 2130Z. Not too optimistic on this mode
> but we'll see. GL and thanks for listening / watching. Jay
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rik Strobbe"  =20
> <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 4:27 PM
> Subject: Re: LF: WE2XGR/2 in PSKFEC31
>
>
>> Jay,
>>
>> I am listening, will you give a confirmation when you take off ?
>>
>> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
>>
>> Quoting jrusgrove@comcast.net:
>>
>>> WE2XGR/2 will be transmitting in PSKFEC31 mode tonight on 508.5 kHz
>>> starting 2130Z and will continue until at least 0100Z and perhaps
>>> beyond.
>>>
>>> PSKFEC31 (PSK31 with forward error correction) can be decoded with the
>>> colorful program MultiPSK - available at http://www.f6cte.free.fr/ .
>>> Sunglasses are recommended for the first time user. As far as I know
>>> there are no other programs that can decode this mode. If anyone has
>>> info to the contrary please advise.
>>>
>>> Some background info on PSKFEC31 and other digital modes as well as
>>> tests run by W1TAG and myself can be found at
>>> http://www.w1tag.com/600M_Modes.htm .
>>>
>>> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>>
>>
>>
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Mode change

>From the initial reports it looks like the MT63 system is not as robust at 
the olivia 500 x 8

I will  change the MT63  mode to  MFSK16  , at  1000 Hz audio cent , ( 502 
Khz  rf cent )

As mfsk will pass via a non linear system , this may be of wider interest

Change time  >>> 2100 Hrs gmt <<<<

tnx - G ..



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> Nb . no rx cycle
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>>
>> As a follow on to some tests  with Gary  , with Olivia  500 x 8 and the
>> original MT63 system
>>
>> Running  two  data streams now at about 10  watts per mode , carrier
>> frequencies are :-
>>
>> mt63   501.5 to  502 Khz
>>
>> olivia 500x8  503 Khz +/-  250 Hz
>>
>> The book says mt63 should not print as well as olivia .....
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>> tnx - G ..
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Hi Lf,
capture AGC-WPF
Henny cpm
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<font face="Arial">Hi Stan,<br>
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You might have another 20 years to go. 80 isn't an old fart yet...hi
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Jim,

Yes , copy was good even during deep fades, I did expect the olivia system 
to provide the better link, but as reported last night, the older mfsk 
system appeared to  give a quite reliable link, Gary and I did try out the 
250psk mode , which did  work but after loosing the connection, we found it 
was not possible to re link whilst using it ... however it appears you can 
change modes whilst linked ... I'm not sure the effect the pc speed has on 
the system, I was using a p3 1.1 ghz pc and the repeat response did seem to 
be a little slow from my station compared with your qso  with Gary .. that 
should be sorted soon ...

rgds

Graham ..

NB

This is a reply over the use of fldigi with the olivia mode, via the yahoo 
digital group  may be of interest ,

Olivia cannot be used as the transport mode for flarq unless the
timeout values in flarq are set to their maximums. Even then it is
highly likely that the digital effect of doubling will occur. Please
try to limit your use of flarq to those modes that appear on the
"Mode/NBEMS" menu item. These have been tested and are known to work
very well with the flarg implementation of ARQ.

73, Dave, W1HKJ






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From: "James Moritz" <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>
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Subject: Re: LF: Fldig Flarq  mfsk16

>
> Dear Graham, Gary, LF Group,
>
> Thanks for the QSOs this evening...
>
> It seems MFSK16 works quite well in the presence of QRN, which is quite
> strong here tonight. There is always MFSK8 and MFSK4 to try as well.
>
> The Flarq ARQ mode was quite interesting, although probably not what you
> want for a "traditional" QSO. I imagine it could work quite well when you
> actually want to transmit quite a large amount of text over a period of
> time, rather than "ur 599 wx not vy gud" etc. I set the packet length to 
> 16,
> the smallest possible, with the idea of maximising the chances of 
> receiving
> un-corrupted packets under weak signal conditions, at the expense of
> increased ARQ overheads. Timing out seems to be a problem; there are 
> options
> to configure number of retries and timeout period, which it would probably
> be sensible to set to more than the default 5 retries / 60s timeout due to
> the nature of the QSB on 500kHz. Also, there does not seem to be a way of
> forcing a disconnection if you lose contact with the other station - I 
> think
> this was causing trouble when I  was trying to "connect" G4WGT after G0NBD
> had timed out.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
>
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Follow on from last night 

Running Fldig in 'farq'  mode at 503 Khz centre frequency 

Beacon  set every 60  seconds 

Pls try connect and leave a message 

mycal set to  G0NBD



Set 

USB  501 Khz 
Audio set 2000 Hz 
Mode mfsk 16 

Farq running , 


Software from :-

http://www.w1hkj.com/Fldigi.html 



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Yes, good news indeed.

It's going to be hard to hit +10dBW...time to put in a bid for that big
power tetrode on e-bay. 7.5 kW should do the trick ;-)

ebay - 160225388175

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
  -----Original Message-----
  From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Mark
  Sent: 18 February 2009 11:42
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  Subject: LF: New NOV


  Gents
  I am please to report that a new NOV for 500KHz just arrived.
  The new NOV runs until 28 Feb 2010 and allows +10dBW,  501 to 504 KHz with
immediate effect.

  Work will therefore start on the transverter here, though 10W ERP will not
be possible from this antenna.
  Filed strengths will be too high and I may have serious voltage rating
issues.

  Many thanks to all those quietly involved in the background in getting the
NOV extended
  mark GM4ISM
  www.dc2light.co.uk

  Grabber and WSPR decoder  24/7 subject to external influences (eg 3 days
with no internet last week!)

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  owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]<B>On Behalf Of=20
  </B>Mark<BR><B>Sent:</B> 18 February 2009 11:42<BR><B>To:</B>=20
  rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> LF: New=20
  NOV<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Gents</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am please to report that a new NOV for=20=
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  just arrived.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The new NOV runs until 28 Feb 2010 and al=
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  +10dBW, &nbsp;501 to 504 KHz with immediate effect.</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Filed strengths will be too high and I ma=
y have=20
  serious voltage rating issues.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Many thanks to all those quietly involved=
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Hello Andy,

Have transmission decoded now.

2208 -23 -0.8   0.503922  0 G4JNT IO90 23

Vy 73 de Gerhard  /  DK6NI


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Hello Andy, Group,

are you still transmitting?

Vy 73 de Gerhard  /  DK6NI

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-----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von Andy Talbot
Gesendet: Montag, 23. Februar 2009 22:38
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Betreff: LF: WSPR - a philosophical question.

Mostly in Jest, but food for thought...

The WSPR database with its complete record of who has heard whom with
date, time , frequency, locator, report and stated Tx power opens up
an interesting philosophical concept.

If the database records that A has heard B, and B has heard A, then
the stations have exchanged reports, location and a piece of unique
information.   By any reckoning this constitutes a QSO - even for
contest purposes.   So now, I don't have to sit in front of a rig
waffling or tapping,  or even be in the shack, or even awake, to have
a valid QSO.   I can be on continuously, 24/7/52.14775  to take
advantage of lifts and anti-social-hours propagation.

Lets do this on all the bands!  Choose a modulation type matched to
the RF medium and bandwidth, and just get on with it.
Throw away those microphones, and definitely those funny tappy 19th
centuary things.

There is one downside: a permanant internet connection to upload
real-time reports.   BUT this could even herald a rebirth for packet
radio if local amateurs could set up simple forwarding nodes to
suitable internet connections?


Andy  G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com




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Henny cpm
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Joe,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>capture vo1na</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Henny cpm</FONT></DIV>
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Hi Jay, LF,

OK the Stream software, had no joy with the software but not tried your set
up suggestion, may try another time. Went back to Multipsk but nothing seen
up to 0005utc so shut down & went to bed.

73

Gary - G4WGT.

-----Original Message-----
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Subject: Re: LF: WE2XGR/2 in MFSK8

FLdigi also works well http://www.w1hkj.com/Fldigi.html .

Jay

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rik Strobbe" <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
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Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 5:20 PM
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Here Stream and Multipsk are working side by side for almost 1 hour  
now (fingers crossed).
However no copy so far.
I leave them running overnight.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

Quoting jrusgrove@comcast.net:

> Gary
>
> The program keeps running okay here.
>
> A couple other points though. Unlike Multipsk one has to specify the
> lower edge of the bandpass - not the middle. This is 120 Hz below the
> center. In other words if 800 Hz is your received audio center
> frequency set the frequency to 680. Maybe there is a way to set it to
> the center...if so I havn't found it.
>
> The bigger problem is with other applications running at the same time.
> Just opened an internet browser and copy went to garbage. MultiPSK kept
> decoding properly.
>
> Jay
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 4:54 PM
> Subject: RE: LF: WE2XGR/2 in MFSK8
>
>
>> Jay, LF,
>>
>> I also downloaded Stream & it runs for about 30 seconds & freezes.
>>
>> 73 - Gary - G4WGT.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of
>> jrusgrove@comcast.net
>> Sent: 07 February 2009 21:42
>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>> Subject: Re: LF: WE2XGR/2 in MFSK8
>>
>> Rik and group
>>
>> Confirming start at 2130Z.
>>
>> Downloaded Stream earlier and was unable to get it to work. MultiPSK
works
>> fine. May very well be
>> cockpit error. Will  look into it.
>>
>> Jay
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rik Strobbe"   
>> <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 4:28 PM
>> Subject: Re: LF: WE2XGR/2 in MFSK8
>>
>>
>>> Jay,
>>>
>>> It just downloaded / installed stream (IZ8BLY).
>>> RX / PC is on 508.5 overnight
>>>
>>> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
>>>
>>> Quoting jrusgrove@comcast.net:
>>>
>>>> WE2XGR/2 will be transmitting in MFSK8 mode on 508.5 kHz from 2130Z -
>>>> 0000Z tonight. Reports are appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> When using MultiPSK as the decoder be advised that the program has been
>>>> known to occasionally go on 'walkabout' after loss of signal. Stopping
>>>> and restarting the decoder seems to solve the problem.
>>>>
>>>> Jay  W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>



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Hello Jay, LFers,

The signal stopped around 2332Z here and there's been nothing since.
I hope you've not had a problem with weather as some of the other
states did.  I'll continue to watch in case you get back on.

73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
Solar and wind powered
Lowfer " EAR"  188.830
EN93dr

http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle




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Warren,
Sorry ! I thought that it was you because the signal is on your frequency
( it is visible on grabber W3EEE ) to see captures .
73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

Warren Ziegler a =E9crit :
> Hi Jean-Pierre,
>
>      That was not me at 23:20, I was not on at all last night!
> I have been off the past two days because of weather and 160m operation.
>  =20

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Graham,

that's what I got here:

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Date: 02/05/09 21:19:30
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Hi Jim ..l yes the email has arrived all 100 %

tnx- G

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73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T


Quoting Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>:

>
> Follow on from last night Running Fldig in 'farq'  mode at 503 Khz
> centre frequency Beacon  set every 60  seconds Pls try connect and
> leave a message mycal set to  G0NBD
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>
>
> Set USB  501 Khz Audio set 2000 Hz Mode mfsk 16 Farq running , Software
> from :-
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> http://www.w1hkj.com/Fldigi.html



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CAPYURE WPF
HENNY PA3CPM
73s to all
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
WPF 15-02.jpg

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>CAPYURE WPF</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>HENNY PA3CPM</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>73s to all</FONT></DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het 
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Hi Warren,Lf
capture XGJ
Henny cpm
73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
XGJ 16-02.jpg

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Warren,Lf</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>capture XGJ</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Henny cpm</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>73s</FONT></DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het volgende 
bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:<BR>XGJ 16-02.jpg<BR><BR>Opmerking: 
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ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de 
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 South o' Watford there be foreigners! East o' Cambridge 'r' Fenn Tygers! North 'o'the Wall 'r' Picts 'n' Savages 'n' Vykin' 'eathens! West o' Bristle 'r' Wayleans! Thereby York 'r' Tykers what 'r'? 't odds wi' Lancassers. All Godds blesseds 'r' Earl o' Warwiks menn an' 'em 'r' foine cyder drin'ers an' howd the Crown true 'n' tried! Nouw howd your wheesht get a noights shlep 'n' houp we dun getcha whoil ye shlept.

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On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 04:20:35 -0800 (PST)
brian hodgson <g3ykb@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> I was brought up in Geordie-land. I went to college in Manchester and
> had arguments about how Manchester was in the South of England !! I
> still think I'm right....... Brian (G3YKB)


I was also born and bred in Geordie-land and also went to University
in Manchester, and had the same arguments! 

I used to say that the south started at the M62 and the midlands
stretched from the M62 to the River Wear.


I even married a Scouser who thinks that Liverpool is in the north.....!

Of course now, EVERYTHING in the UK is "down south" for us, but she
still thinks she's a Northerner, poor lass!

John
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<div> <font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">South o' Watford there be foreigners! East o' Cambridge 'r' Fenn Tygers! North 'o'the Wall 'r' Picts 'n' Savages 'n' Vykin' 'eathens! West o' Bristle 'r' Wayleans! Thereby York 'r' Tykers what 'r'&nbsp; 't odds wi' Lancassers. All Godds blesseds 'r' Earl o' Warwiks menn an' 'em 'r' foine cyder drin'ers an' howd the Crown true 'n' tried! Nouw howd your wheesht get a noights shlep 'n' houp we dun getcha whoil ye shlept.<br>
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<pre style="font-size: 9pt;"><tt>On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 04:20:35 -0800 (PST)<br>
brian hodgson &lt;<a href="mailto:g3ykb@yahoo.co.uk">g3ykb@yahoo.co.uk</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
<br>
&gt; I was brought up in Geordie-land. I went to college in Manchester and<br>
&gt; had arguments about how Manchester was in the South of England !! I<br>
&gt; still think I'm right....... Brian (G3YKB)<br>
<br>
<br>
I was also born and bred in Geordie-land and also went to University<br>
in Manchester, and had the same arguments! <br>
<br>
I used to say that the south started at the M62 and the midlands<br>
stretched from the M62 to the River Wear.<br>
<br>
<br>
I even married a Scouser who thinks that Liverpool is in the north.....!<br>
<br>
Of course now, EVERYTHING in the UK is "down south" for us, but she<br>
still thinks she's a Northerner, poor lass!<br>
<br>
John<br>
GM4SLV<br>
Shetland.....<br>
<br>
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Dear all,

as I checked the band at 15 UTC today I noticed very good daytime  
signals from DI2AM (612km) and OK0EMW (904km) as well as DI2BO (402km)  
on 440kHz.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

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The TIL Grabber has reconfigured RX antennas to favour the over the pole 
path and has begun listening runs at QRSS60 at the request of our 
colleagues in central Russia in the 2200m wateringhole (137775-137781Hz).

Sorry that means my null is now aimed at the boys on the east coast of 
the USA...

Keep tabs on the fun and excitement here:
http://www3.telus.net/sthed/argo/

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I noticed some of the web sites still have links to my old email account the=
re in Okie

Heres the new ones for the loop for info..

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http://kl1x.com/loop1500.jpg


 http://kl1x.com/house.jpg

=20
> From: dave.riley3@verizon.net
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 20:10:27 -0500
> Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: LF Antennas - back to basics
>=20
> > Dave
> >
> > If you believe this I have a bridge you might be interested in=20
> > purchasing...
> >
> > Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2
>=20
>=20
>=20
> No thanks, I have enuf worms for fishing...
>=20
> Besides, I'm lazy and one run of wire outperforms my messy attempts @=20
> loading the trees with HV wires that detune with humidity...
>=20
> We installed a short flat top on the Sea Venture ( WJMV ) and I could tell=
=20
> you what the relative humidity was by the antenna current...
> Some dielectric measuring device, eh??
>=20
> 10A into the ground radial common point is power wasted that could have be=
en=20
> released into the air...
> I'm talking about my crummy ground conductivity here ( silica sand ), not=20=
on=20
> a ship or @ a salt water location...
>=20
> I think!!
>=20
> What bridge?? An RF one??
>=20
> Dave
>=20
>=20
>=20
> ----- Original Message -----=20
> From: <jrusgrove@comcast.net>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 6:19 PM
> Subject: LF: Re: Re: LF Antennas - back to basics
>=20
>=20
> >> No wasted power going into and out of the ground...
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > If you believe this I have a bridge you might be interested in=20
> > purchasing...
> >
> > Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----=20
> > From: "dave.riley3" <dave.riley3@verizon.net>
> > To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>; <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 11:53 AM
> > Subject: LF: Re: LF Antennas - back to basics
> >
> >
> >> Glad you asked, Andy... Hope this one makes it past the spam filter....
> >>
> >> Back in the commercial AM transmitter biz days I buried miles of extra=20
> >> copper in to poor conductivity soil and gained little or nothing.
> >> Then came Bill Ashloop who proved that a small transmit loop can do qui=
te=20
> >> well.
> >> http://www.wireless.org.uk/loopy.htm
> >> http://www.w1tag.com/XESANT.htm
> >>
> >> So I surveryed the back yard which sits on very poor conductivity soil=20
> >> and therefore makes a loop appear to me more in free space and here are=
=20
> >> the advantages that I have found to date:
> >>
> >> No high voltage wire ends to start tree fires. No wasted power going in=
to=20
> >> and out of the ground...
> >>
> >> Much less wire used in a LOOP transmit antenna. This #4 stranded HV wir=
e=20
> >> rests inside of 100' sections of garden hose and is hoisted into trees=20
> >> with help of compound bow and pull line.
> >>
> >> No top loading, no radials, much less noise on RX, E-Z to tune and=20
> >> weather does not affect the tuning much such as from rain or snow, and=20=
it=20
> >> acts like a good vertical regardless of being much simpler.
> >>
> >> As for the CONS, well I just don't think of any... Somebody??
> >>
> >> It works very well from 600M to 6M and is the only real antenna that I=20
> >> still have.
> >>
> >> Various feeds as noted below will let you tune it down to SAQ@17kc whic=
h=20
> >> I always hear and also makes for superb DX on 6M in 'some directions'.
> >>
> >> ref: http://www.radiocom.net/600M/LOOP109.jpg
> >>
> >> Wish I had a El-Nec printout but can't seem to fit this version in to i=
t.
> >>
> >> QSL SURE VIA E-MAIL
> >> 090226 0406 1 -29 0.0 0.503869 G4JNT IO90 23
> >> 090226 0610 3 -29 0.0 0.503869 G4JNT IO90 23
> >>
> >> Have a quiet night and TNX from Dave @ WD2XSH/17
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >> From: "Andy Talbot" <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>
> >> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> >> Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 11:16 AM
> >> Subject: LF: LF Antennas - back to basics
> >>
> >>
> >>> Having now been encouraged by being decoded now by at least two US
> >>> stations, was wondering how much improvement in efficiency I could
> >>> scrape out of my existing antenna. It is a Marconi Tee, the vertical
> >>> element consisting of three wires from the base tapering to 200mm
> >>> spacing at the top. There it is attached to the centre of a a
> >>> capacity hat 15m long and 200mm wide made of three parallel wires.
> >>>
> >>> The ground system is a bit haphazard in my 7m wide by 12m long garden,
> >>> with about 4 wires meeting at the base of the antenna meandering
> >>> around the garden, starting off in different directions from teh base.
> >>> They are all connected to substantial ground rods in heavy clay at
> >>> their far points, a with a few randomly spaced rods in between (I used
> >>> several 1m lengths of 15mm water pipe as well as proper rods - there
> >>> is probably about 9 or 10 rods in total, mostly 1 - 2m in length -
> >>> can't remember that far back! Some of the earth conductors were also
> >>> bonded to the house wiring by a couple of substantial straps, and even
> >>> inside the house I added more straps at strategic places. I also
> >>> ensured there was a good fat cable run directly under as much of the
> >>> capacity hat as possible. As a test, disconnecting the PME earthing
> >>> bond and measuring the DC resistance between my total set of
> >>> connections and the incoming conductor ground/neutral point, the value
> >>> was a pretty consistent 3 ohms. Haven't done this test for a few
> >>> years, but at the last check it was still of this order.
> >>>
> >>> Back in the 73kHz days a number of (mostly big!) stations were
> >>> surprised my signal was as strong as it was for probably the smallest
> >>> antenna in use then; G3LDO put it down to the fact I had concentrated
> >>> plenty of earthing wire to run directly under the top-hat.
> >>>
> >>> But, its all 14 years old, still OK, but hopefully there's a wealth
> >>> of experience now, and I wonder if there are obvious improvements that
> >>> could be made:
> >>>
> >>> Firstly, bearing in mind there is no scope whatsoever to raise one end
> >>> of the capacity hat which is defined by the apex of the house roof,
> >>> and the other end would also need some major sugery to raise its heigh
> >>> substantially, that only leaves the middle, ie the height of the
> >>> actual radiator. It wouldn't be too difficult to raise this to 10m
> >>> or even more with a fibreglass pole, but will I be throwing away all
> >>> the advantage by having the top-hat drooping down to 7m?
> >>>
> >>> Secondly, pictures of other peoples antennas aften show a substantial
> >>> grounding plate immediately under and around the antenna base. Just
> >>> how far out is is worth going with a really substantial base. I
> >>> could cut more conductors into the ground; while the ground is still
> >>> is still soggy in March may be a good time to do this.
> >>>
> >>> Any ideas please ...?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Andy G4JNT
> >>> www.g4jnt.com
> >>>
> >>
> >=20
>=20
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I noticed some of the web sites still have links to&nbsp;my old email accoun=
t&nbsp;there in Okie<BR>
Heres the new ones for the loop for info..<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
<A href=3D"http://kl1x.com/loop1500.jpg">http://kl1x.com/loop1500.jpg</A><BR=
>
<BR>&nbsp;<A href=3D"http://kl1x.com/house.jpg">http://kl1x.com/house.jpg</A=
><BR>
&nbsp;<BR>&gt; From: dave.riley3@verizon.net<BR>&gt; To: rsgb_lf_group@black=
sheep.org<BR>&gt; Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 20:10:27 -0500<BR>&gt; Subject: LF:=
 Re: Re: Re: LF Antennas - back to basics<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; Dave<BR>&gt;=
 &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; If you believe this I have a bridge you might be interest=
ed in <BR>&gt; &gt; purchasing...<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; Jay W1VD WD2XNS=20=
WE2XGR/2<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; No thanks, I have enuf worms for=
 fishing...<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Besides, I'm lazy and one run of wire outperfor=
ms my messy attempts @ <BR>&gt; loading the trees with HV wires that detune=20=
with humidity...<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; We installed a short flat top on the Sea V=
enture ( WJMV ) and I could tell <BR>&gt; you what the relative humidity was=
 by the antenna current...<BR>&gt; Some dielectric measuring device, eh??<BR=
>&gt; <BR>&gt; 10A into the ground radial common point is power wasted that=20=
could have been <BR>&gt; released into the air...<BR>&gt; I'm talking about=20=
my crummy ground conductivity here ( silica sand ), not on <BR>&gt; a ship o=
r @ a salt water location...<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; I think!!<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Wha=
t bridge?? An RF one??<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Dave<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&=
gt; ----- Original Message ----- <BR>&gt; From: &lt;jrusgrove@comcast.net&gt=
;<BR>&gt; To: &lt;rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org&gt;<BR>&gt; Sent: Friday, Feb=
ruary 27, 2009 6:19 PM<BR>&gt; Subject: LF: Re: Re: LF Antennas - back to ba=
sics<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; &gt;&gt; No wasted power going into and out o=
f the ground...<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; Dave<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; If=20=
you believe this I have a bridge you might be interested in <BR>&gt; &gt; pu=
rchasing...<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2<BR>&gt; &gt;<=
BR>&gt; &gt; ----- Original Message ----- <BR>&gt; &gt; From: "dave.riley3"=20=
&lt;dave.riley3@verizon.net&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; To: &lt;rsgb_lf_group@blackshee=
p.org&gt;; &lt;andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; Sent: Thursday, Fe=
bruary 26, 2009 11:53 AM<BR>&gt; &gt; Subject: LF: Re: LF Antennas - back to=
 basics<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt; Glad you asked, Andy... H=
ope this one makes it past the spam filter...<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;&=
gt; Back in the commercial AM transmitter biz days I buried miles of extra <=
BR>&gt; &gt;&gt; copper in to poor conductivity soil and gained little or no=
thing.<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt; Then came Bill Ashloop who proved that a small trans=
mit loop can do quite <BR>&gt; &gt;&gt; well.<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt; http://www.wi=
reless.org.uk/loopy.htm<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt; http://www.w1tag.com/XESANT.htm<BR>=
&gt; &gt;&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt; So I surveryed the back yard which sits on ve=
ry poor conductivity soil <BR>&gt; &gt;&gt; and therefore makes a loop appea=
r to me more in free space and here are <BR>&gt; &gt;&gt; the advantages tha=
t I have found to date:<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt; No high voltage wi=
re ends to start tree fires. No wasted power going into <BR>&gt; &gt;&gt; an=
d out of the ground...<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt; Much less wire used=
 in a LOOP transmit antenna. This #4 stranded HV wire <BR>&gt; &gt;&gt; rest=
s inside of 100' sections of garden hose and is hoisted into trees <BR>&gt;=20=
&gt;&gt; with help of compound bow and pull line.<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;<BR>&gt; &=
gt;&gt; No top loading, no radials, much less noise on RX, E-Z to tune and <=
BR>&gt; &gt;&gt; weather does not affect the tuning much such as from rain o=
r snow, and it <BR>&gt; &gt;&gt; acts like a good vertical regardless of bei=
ng much simpler.<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt; As for the CONS, well I j=
ust don't think of any... Somebody??<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt; It wo=
rks very well from 600M to 6M and is the only real antenna that I <BR>&gt; &=
gt;&gt; still have.<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt; Various feeds as noted=
 below will let you tune it down to SAQ@17kc which <BR>&gt; &gt;&gt; I alway=
s hear and also makes for superb DX on 6M in 'some directions'.<BR>&gt; &gt;=
&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt; ref: http://www.radiocom.net/600M/LOOP109.jpg<BR>&gt;=20=
&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt; Wish I had a El-Nec printout but can't seem to fit=
 this version in to it.<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt; QSL SURE VIA E-MAI=
L<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt; 090226 0406 1 -29 0.0 0.503869 G4JNT IO90 23<BR>&gt; &gt;=
&gt; 090226 0610 3 -29 0.0 0.503869 G4JNT IO90 23<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;<BR>&gt; &=
gt;&gt; Have a quiet night and TNX from Dave @ WD2XSH/17<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;<BR=
>&gt; &gt;&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;<BR>&gt; &g=
t;&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt; ----- Original Mes=
sage ----- <BR>&gt; &gt;&gt; From: "Andy Talbot" &lt;andy.g4jnt@googlemail.c=
om&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt; To: &lt;rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt=
;&gt; Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 11:16 AM<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt; Subject: L=
F: LF Antennas - back to basics<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;<BR>&gt; &g=
t;&gt;&gt; Having now been encouraged by being decoded now by at least two U=
S<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; stations, was wondering how much improvement in effic=
iency I could<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; scrape out of my existing antenna. It is=20=
a Marconi Tee, the vertical<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; element consisting of three=
 wires from the base tapering to 200mm<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; spacing at the t=
op. There it is attached to the centre of a a<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; capacity=20=
hat 15m long and 200mm wide made of three parallel wires.<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&g=
t;<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; The ground system is a bit haphazard in my 7m wide b=
y 12m long garden,<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; with about 4 wires meeting at the ba=
se of the antenna meandering<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; around the garden, startin=
g off in different directions from teh base.<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; They are a=
ll connected to substantial ground rods in heavy clay at<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt=
; their far points, a with a few randomly spaced rods in between (I used<BR>=
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; several 1m lengths of 15mm water pipe as well as proper ro=
ds - there<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; is probably about 9 or 10 rods in total, mos=
tly 1 - 2m in length -<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; can't remember that far back! So=
me of the earth conductors were also<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; bonded to the hous=
e wiring by a couple of substantial straps, and even<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; in=
side the house I added more straps at strategic places. I also<BR>&gt; &gt;&=
gt;&gt; ensured there was a good fat cable run directly under as much of the=
<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; capacity hat as possible. As a test, disconnecting the=
 PME earthing<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; bond and measuring the DC resistance betw=
een my total set of<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; connections and the incoming conduc=
tor ground/neutral point, the value<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; was a pretty consis=
tent 3 ohms. Haven't done this test for a few<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; years, bu=
t at the last check it was still of this order.<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;=
 &gt;&gt;&gt; Back in the 73kHz days a number of (mostly big!) stations were=
<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; surprised my signal was as strong as it was for probab=
ly the smallest<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; antenna in use then; G3LDO put it down=20=
to the fact I had concentrated<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; plenty of earthing wire=20=
to run directly under the top-hat.<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;=
 But, its all 14 years old, still OK, but hopefully there's a wealth<BR>&gt;=
 &gt;&gt;&gt; of experience now, and I wonder if there are obvious improveme=
nts that<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; could be made:<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt; &g=
t;&gt;&gt; Firstly, bearing in mind there is no scope whatsoever to raise on=
e end<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; of the capacity hat which is defined by the apex=20=
of the house roof,<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; and the other end would also need so=
me major sugery to raise its heigh<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; substantially, that=20=
only leaves the middle, ie the height of the<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; actual rad=
iator. It wouldn't be too difficult to raise this to 10m<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt=
; or even more with a fibreglass pole, but will I be throwing away all<BR>&g=
t; &gt;&gt;&gt; the advantage by having the top-hat drooping down to 7m?<BR>=
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Secondly, pictures of other peoples a=
ntennas aften show a substantial<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; grounding plate immedi=
ately under and around the antenna base. Just<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; how far o=
ut is is worth going with a really substantial base. I<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;=20=
could cut more conductors into the ground; while the ground is still<BR>&gt;=
 &gt;&gt;&gt; is still soggy in March may be a good time to do this.<BR>&gt;=
 &gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Any ideas please ...?<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt=
;<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Andy G4JNT<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;=20=
www.g4jnt.com<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; <B=
R>&gt; <BR><br /><hr />Windows Live=99 Hotmail=AE:=85more than just e-mail.=20=
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Hi Warren,
capture XGJ
Henny cpm
73s
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xgj 02-02.jpg

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Warren,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>capture XGJ</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>73s</FONT></DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het volgende 
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Subject: Re: LF: Olivia 500 x 8  MFSK16  NOW RUNNING
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John,

Oh dear .. that's not supposed to  happen .. hope its not my fault !
but looking at the traces .. not that many dbs  difference in the peak 
levels

G ..



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From: "John P-G" <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk>
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 9:31 PM
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Subject: Re: LF: Olivia 500 x 8  MFSK16  NOW RUNNING

>
> G, LF,
>
> Now getting 100% copy of the MFSK16, but only snatches of any
> recognisable characters fromteh Olivia!
>
> J
>
>
>
> On Wed, 4 Feb 2009 21:11:51 -0000
> "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Modes changed
>>
>> MT63   STOPPED
>>
>> MFSK16 ,  Centre freq   1000 Hz audio
>>
>> Approx  15 watts peak per stream
>>
>> Thanks for reports .. will run this config  an hour or so
>>
>> G ..
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 7:39 PM
>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Subject: LF: If anyones about , MT63  x 500 Hz and Olivia 500 x 8
>> running now 1935 hrs
>>
>> >
>> > As a follow on to some tests  with Gary  , with Olivia  500 x 8 and
>> > the original MT63 system
>> >
>> > Running  two  data streams now at about 10  watts per mode , carrier
>> > frequencies are :-
>> >
>> > mt63   501.5 to  502 Khz
>> >
>> > olivia 500x8  503 Khz +/-  250 Hz
>> >
>> > The book says mt63 should not print as well as olivia .....
>> >
>> > tnx - G ..
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> >
>> > No virus found in this incoming message.
>> > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>> > Version: 8.0.233 / Virus Database: 270.10.17/1934 - Release Date:
>> > 02/03/09 17:48:00
>> >
>>
>>
>
>



>
> No virus found in this incoming message.
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Graham wrote:

> Mode change
>
>> From the initial reports it looks like the MT63 system is not as 
>> robust at 
>
> the olivia 500 x 8
>
> I will  change the MT63  mode to  MFSK16  , at  1000 Hz audio cent , ( 
> 502 Khz  rf cent )
>
> As mfsk will pass via a non linear system , this may be of wider interest
>
> Change time  >>> 2100 Hrs gmt <<<<

Dear Graham, LF  Group
i do not remeber if  there was a test performed  on 500 kHz  using 
another  multi-tone FSK  transmission
 namely, THROB  - it is available in multipsk package of digi-modes. i 
think it should be superior to mfsk16
at  MF  especially when using lower rates 1 or 2  pulses per second  .in 
such case the bandwidth is 72 Hz
prabably it is still too  'fast'  but if the  speed of pulses (throbes)  
would be lowered it could  be  another managable mode on LF/MF
unfortunately , your test transmissions using different digi modes is 
still too 'local' for me ..   but Jim,, MBU, JOhn, SLV might come
 out with positive decoding  - so i look at the new e-mails .... :)
                                                                                                         
73, peter, sq7mpj
qth: lodz, poland /jo91rs/


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nil for Joe
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Gary,

the gap in my data is due to the fact that I was using the RX / =20
antenna otherwise.
Just one remark regarding the data: keep in mind that it is SNR (not =20
signal strength). I have my LF antenna at a rather remote location in =20
the garden. Nearest houses, street light and other possible QRM =20
sources are at least 50m from the antenna and at my own house most =20
local QRM sources have been eliminated. This might explain the =20
relative "good" values.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

Quoting Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>:

> Hi LF,
>
>
>
> I have created a MS Excel spread-sheet for my WSPRing last night. I have
> uploaded it to my website as it is too large for the LF group forum. On
> three worksheets there is a graph in marker format, a graph in line format=
 &
> the data from the five stations who reported to the WSPR Spots page.
>
>
>
> It is my first attempt at an Excel chart, please let me know what you thin=
k.
> It can be downloaded at :-
>
>
>
> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/WSPR01.xls
>
>
>
> 73,
>
>
>
> Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.
>
>
>
>



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capture wpf
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Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
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On Sat, 7 Feb 2009 21:54:30 -0000
"Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

> Jay, LF,
> 
> I also downloaded Stream & it runs for about 30 seconds & freezes.
> 
> 73 - Gary - G4WGT.


Yep, same here.

Looking now with MultiPSK - nothing seen/heard/decoded as yet.

John



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Hi folks,

DI2BO's experimental license is valid for two frequencise, 440 kHz and 505.1=
 kHz (both +/- 100 Hz). Currently the beacon is transmitting on 440.015 kHz=20=
in QRSS3 and ID in CW. ERP is in the 50 mW range.=20

Status of the beacon can be seen at www.qru.de/di2bo. Reports are welcome (a=
s usual).


Vy 73

Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO=20




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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>DI2BO's experimental license is valid for t=
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frequencise, 440 kHz and 505.1 kHz (both +/- 100 Hz). Currently the beacon i=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Status of the beacon can be seen at <A   hr=
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Hi Warren,
capture xgj
henny cpm
73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
xgj 03-02.jpg

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>capture xgj</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>henny cpm</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>73s</FONT></DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het volgende 
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Just for a bit of novelty, I'm running probably the lowest power WSPR
signal seen on this band.   Frequency 503.87kHz (set the usual USB
carrier 502.4) RF power is -2dBm, so ERP is in the region of -27dBm.
Duty cycle 33% (well, actually, 34.375%, but who's counting)

Judging by some of the WSPR reports on my signal when runing 100 Watts
in the past, a few local stations may just be able to decode it.

As for PN sequences, I admited defeat and just wrote down a series of
ones and zeros then played with them till they looked right and had
the correct numbers of each in a  32 bit pattern (which is why 33% and
20% duty cycle values aren't spot-on)
On the assumptuin that its not random at all, why try to generate
other than by eye?

Interesting to know Joe had a similar headache over this issue, Scott.
 Clearly it isn't a 'mountain out of a molehill' problem after all.


Andy  G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com


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Many thanks to Jean-Pierre, Henny, Victor and Willem for the
recent reports.  The strong receptions in the Netherlands on
the 17th were quite amazing, and Alan's ability to predict
favourable transatlantic conditions is remarkable!

73 and thanks to all
Joe


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Graham, LF,

I've had a look but can't see any sign of either transmission.

I'll keep watching for a while.

John
GM4SLV

On Wed, 4 Feb 2009 19:39:13 -0000
"Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

> As a follow on to some tests  with Gary  , with Olivia  500 x 8 and
> the original MT63 system
> 
> Running  two  data streams now at about 10  watts per mode , carrier 
> frequencies are :-
> 
> mt63   501.5 to  502 Khz
> 
> olivia 500x8  503 Khz +/-  250 Hz
> 
> The book says mt63 should not print as well as olivia .....
> 
> tnx - G ..
> 
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Good morning,
i copied from midnight until 5am on 137.778 RN3AGC and on 137.777 UA4WPF
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vy73
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  _____ =20

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Hello Andrey,RN3AGC last night.
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Just notice some activity on Markus' 136 kHz grabber, possibly from OE ?

HPE cul,
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Hello Roman,

> Whats a schedule of DI2BO? 24h on the air?

Yes, 24/7 (24 hours, 7 days a week). Status can be seen on
http://www.qru.de/di2bo

Vy 73

Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO


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> Hi Geri & LF!
> Whats a schedule of DI2BO? 24h on the air?
>
> * "Holger 'Geri', DK8KW" <geri@dk8kw.de> [Mon, 16 Feb 2009 18:20:28
> +0100]:
> > Hi folks,
> >
> > DI2BO's experimental license is valid for two frequencise, 440 kHz and
> > 505.1 kHz (both +/- 100 Hz). Currently the beacon is transmitting on
> > 440.015 kHz in QRSS3 and ID in CW. ERP is in the 50 mW range.
> >
> > Status of the beacon can be seen at www.qru.de/di2bo. Reports are
> > welcome (as usual).
> >
> >
> > Vy 73
> >
> > Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Roman RW3ADB.
>



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I already have probably one of the simplest (not sure about cheapest )
5MHz monitoring stations.   Active whip feeding into an SDR-lite Rx
feding into a cheap boot-sale (=A320 quid) laptop.  It doesn't need
internet conenction for 5MHz logging, but could have it if needed.

The only proviso is that the monitoring software ideally has I/Q
stereo channel inputs to give the sideband isolation, which many
laptops don't have.   For narrowband purposes, a simple RC phasing
network can be used instead (see RadCom Data column a few months ago.
 For 500kHz with a ferrite rod, an even simpler Rx ought to be
feasible.

Andy  G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com



2009/2/23 Mark <markhughes1@blueyonder.co.uk>:
> Hi all,
> Not withstanding the fickle nature of propagation, my WSPR / Grabber recei=
ve
> antenna is not the most efficient, and does suffer from an elevated noise
> floor compared to my main station antenna.
> Signals are typically 6dB stronger on the inverted L, though I have not
> spent any great effort quantifying the differences.
> One of the true benefits of WSPR is measurement of signal level variations
> at one location, but to get =A0meaningful data on relative strength betwee=
n
> stations would take many receive stations with identical equipment.
> That is of course eminently possible, a cheap PC and a standard ferrite ro=
d
> active receive system + simple SDR would enable a major propagation study.
> Most amateurs have a PC and internet, if a cheap design were published for=
 a
> WSPR monitor station, we could potentially get many listening stations QRV
> and gather a lot of interesting data. not many transmitters need be on, so
> no problem for non NOV holders.
> With other 'front ends' any band could be monitored.
>
> How cheap can we make such a system, is anyone interested?
> Mark GM4ISM
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Talbot" <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.co=
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> Subject: Re: LF: More WSPRing
>
>
>> That's very interesting - =A0I appear to be 10 - 15dB better S/N with
>> you Johan (-5db S/N) at 1200km, than with GM4ISM (-20dB S/N) at 577km.
>>
>> Background noise levels ?
>> Sea path ?
>>
>> Andy =A0G4JNT
>> www.g4jnt.com
>>
>>
>>
>> 2009/2/23 Johan H. Bodin <jh.bodin@telia.com>:
>>>
>>> Solid copy in JO67MR Andy, including the CW ID!
>>>
>>>
>>> 73
>>> Johan SM6LKM
>>>
>>> Andy Talbot wrote:
>>>>
>>>> 503.870 +23dBm ERP running now, =A034.375% duty cycle ...
>>>>
>>>> Andy =A0G4JNT
>>>> www.g4jnt.com
>>>
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Rik & group

Confirming start of PSKFEC31 at 2130Z. Not too optimistic on this mode but we'll see. 

GL and thanks for listening / watching. 

Jay


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rik Strobbe" <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
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Subject: Re: LF: WE2XGR/2 in PSKFEC31


> Jay,
> 
> I am listening, will you give a confirmation when you take off ?
> 
> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
> 
> Quoting jrusgrove@comcast.net:
> 
>> WE2XGR/2 will be transmitting in PSKFEC31 mode tonight on 508.5 kHz
>> starting 2130Z and will continue until at least 0100Z and perhaps
>> beyond.
>>
>> PSKFEC31 (PSK31 with forward error correction) can be decoded with the
>> colorful program MultiPSK - available at http://www.f6cte.free.fr/ .
>> Sunglasses are recommended for the first time user. As far as I know
>> there are no other programs that can decode this mode. If anyone has
>> info to the contrary please advise.
>>
>> Some background info on PSKFEC31 and other digital modes as well as
>> tests run by W1TAG and myself can be found at
>> http://www.w1tag.com/600M_Modes.htm .
>>
>> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
> 
> 
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Ok Sorry Rik , used to  add those details

Im using the MULTIPSK  all mode software  by F6CTE

http://f6cte.free.fr/index_anglais.htm

Its a pretty good package .. not to  big a file and the decode  is vert good 
, also  you can  open more than one
session , just click the icon, so its hand for this type of test ....

Its a little 'vivid'  when you first see it .. all button  driven ..  but 
from the set up  screen just  allocate the soundcard and thats it

.. there are others .. but this if fine .. !

G .

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>
> Graham,
>
> if I had the right software installed probably yes.
> Any suggestion what software (preferable freeware) I should use (and
> where to find it) ?
>
> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
>
> Quoting Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>:
>
>> Thanks Rik
>>
>> Can you decode them ?
>>
>> Im just running  two sessions of multipsk , dial set 501 Khz usb , the
>> mt63 is  fixed in frequency , 500 to  1000 hz , olivia is cent on  503
>> khz carrier .......round  10 to  15 watts each stream
>>
>> G ..
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Rik Strobbe" <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 7:55 PM
>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Subject: Re: LF: If anyones about , MT63  x 500 Hz and Olivia 500 x
>> 8running now 1935 hrs
>>
>>>
>>> both signals audible in JO20IX
>>>
>>> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
>>>
>>> Quoting Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>:
>>>
>>>> As a follow on to some tests  with Gary  , with Olivia  500 x 8 and the
>>>> original MT63 system
>>>>
>>>> Running  two  data streams now at about 10  watts per mode , carrier
>>>> frequencies are :-
>>>>
>>>> mt63   501.5 to  502 Khz
>>>>
>>>> olivia 500x8  503 Khz +/-  250 Hz
>>>>
>>>> The book says mt63 should not print as well as olivia .....
>>>>
>>>> tnx - G ..
>>>
>>>
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Ok John well  that looks like a positive result , hihi, but  nt63 is showing 
at a much lower level - ( -10 Db at Gary)  but the  software is giving the 
same levels .. i think its just the  128 tones used in mt63 that make the 
signal look lower .. ive set the audio levels under the agc point .. so  the 
keying of each mode should not alter the level of the other


G ...

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>
>
> Hi Graham, LF,
>
> I've got 2 copies of Multipsk running, as you described earlier, on
> 501.00 dial frequ.
>
> I get the occasional "CQ" and "nbd" in the gibberish on the Olivia
> version, and nothing at all on the MT63 version.
>
> I have heard the odd "two tone warble" that marks the start of an
> Olivia transmission very, very faintly, but no real sign of the FSK
> during the actual message.
>
> Let's see what the QSB does...
>
> John
>
>
>
> On Wed, 4 Feb 2009 20:06:00 -0000
> "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> If you set up  multipsk on the 2 streams  may print from under the
>> noise .. its a follow on from the other night with Gary , where I
>> could not turn the power down low enough to  stop mt63 from
>> printing .. less than 1 watt single tone .. just  barely showing on
>> the waterfall ...  but mt63 is supposed to be 10 db less effective
>> that mfsk .. that's a lot !
>>
>> G ..
>
>



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Thanks Rik

Can you decode them ?

Im just running  two sessions of multipsk , dial set 501 Khz usb , the mt63 
is  fixed in frequency , 500 to  1000 hz , olivia is cent on  503 khz 
carrier .......round  10 to  15 watts each stream

G ..

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Subject: Re: LF: If anyones about , MT63  x 500 Hz and Olivia 500 x 8running 
now 1935 hrs

>
> both signals audible in JO20IX
>
> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
>
> Quoting Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>:
>
>> As a follow on to some tests  with Gary  , with Olivia  500 x 8 and the
>> original MT63 system
>>
>> Running  two  data streams now at about 10  watts per mode , carrier
>> frequencies are :-
>>
>> mt63   501.5 to  502 Khz
>>
>> olivia 500x8  503 Khz +/-  250 Hz
>>
>> The book says mt63 should not print as well as olivia .....
>>
>> tnx - G ..
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Hi Andy.
 
If the WSPR software has any sort of internal data storage for callsigns,  
then it may be showing the same 'characteristics' that cause so much trouble  
within the EME community.
 
JT65 has a list of known EME stations and a mode which uses a 'deep  search' 
algorithm.
 
Problem is, that the software searches a database from small  fragments 
actually received and has a best guess at a call.  
 
Many EME stations delete the internal database or turn off the deep search  
facility so that only correctly decoded transmissions are displayed.
 
Thanks
 
David  G0MRF
 
 
 
In a message dated 20/02/2009 22:12:10 GMT Standard Time,  
andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com writes:

According to the WSPR Spot database, there is some "interesting"  DX
being received chez GM4ISM.
Is there some carrier or coherent   QRM present to generate these false hits?





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Rik, Andy & group

For WSPR mode transmitter power is 400 watts rf. Antenna is a 90' vertical / tophat. ERP about 40 
watts.

Antenna:  http://www.w1vd.com/XNStxantenna.html (500 kHz loading coil not shown)

Transmitting amplifier: http://www.w1vd.com/9505MF.html

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2


----- Original Message ----- 
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> Assume 57dBm refers to Tx power.   What esitimated ERP is WE2XGR running ?
>
> Andy  G4JNT
> www.g4jnt.com
>
>
>
> 2009/2/1  <F4DTL@aol.com>:
>> Hello Jay, nice conditions this night,
>>
>> F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP
>>
>> RX : Icom IC7400
>> Ant: Wellbrook LFL 1010
>> http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/
>>
>>
>> 090201 0156  16 -16  0.8   0.508510  WE2XGR FN31 57
>> 090201 0158  15 -17  0.8   0.508510  WE2XGR FN31 57
>> 090201 0200   5 -26  0.9   0.508510  WE2XGR FN31 57
>>
> 



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Ill be running LF/MF rx operations from Costa Rica from appx 15-20th March 2=
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for Raleigh International, the Youth Development charity.
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gs than last time as weve figured out a few tricks to improve the s/n/. Rx w=
ill be SDR IQ and PA0RDT probe plus LDF's, which are an easier transit as Il=
l be in and out via China -=20
=20
This location afforded an excellent path to Eu and Americas'  on LF and even=
 though we were surrounded by volcanic mountains I managed to work Argentina=
 on 6m nearly every night last time around. The coasts arent that far away e=
ither side...
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I wont have Tx (I think) but call will be as then TI3/ KL 1 X
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>From June or so this coming year it looks like Ill be working out of Abu Dha=
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Ill be running LF/MF rx operations from Costa Rica from appx 15-20th March 2=
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for Raleigh International, the Youth Development charity.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
I was last there in 2003 on LF <A href=3D"http://www.kl1x.com/costa.jpg">htt=
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ill be using a probe - but Im expecting better things than last time as weve=
 figured out a few tricks to improve the s/n/. Rx will be SDR IQ and PA0RDT=20=
probe plus LDF's, which are an easier transit as Ill be in and out via China=
 - <BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
This location afforded an excellent path to Eu and Americas'&nbsp; on LF and=
 even though we were surrounded by volcanic mountains I managed to work Arge=
ntina on 6m nearly every night last time around. The coasts arent that far a=
way either side...<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
I wont have Tx (I think) but call will be as then TI3/ KL 1 X<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
>From June or so this coming year it looks like Ill be working out of Abu Dha=
bi A61 for a while - no chance of a license there so it seems but will try t=
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&nbsp;<BR>
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Hi John,

If you set up  multipsk on the 2 streams  may print from under the noise .. 
its a follow on from the other night with Gary , where I could not turn the 
power down low enough to  stop mt63 from printing .. less than 1 watt single 
tone .. just  barely showing on the waterfall ...  but mt63 is supposed to 
be 10 db less effective that mfsk .. that's a lot !

G ..

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From: "John P-G" <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk>
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Subject: Re: LF: If anyones about , MT63  x 500 Hz and Olivia 500 x 8 
running now 1935 hrs

>
> Graham, LF,
>
> I've had a look but can't see any sign of either transmission.
>
> I'll keep watching for a while.
>
> John
> GM4SLV
>
> On Wed, 4 Feb 2009 19:39:13 -0000
> "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> As a follow on to some tests  with Gary  , with Olivia  500 x 8 and
>> the original MT63 system
>>
>> Running  two  data streams now at about 10  watts per mode , carrier
>> frequencies are :-
>>
>> mt63   501.5 to  502 Khz
>>
>> olivia 500x8  503 Khz +/-  250 Hz
>>
>> The book says mt63 should not print as well as olivia .....
>>
>> tnx - G ..
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>



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Thanks Henny!
-- 
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
                WE2XEB/2
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2009/2/18 henny van elst <cpm@planet.nl>:
> Hi Warren,Lf
> Capture XGJ
> Henny cpm
> 73s
> Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden
> verzonden:
> XGJ 18-02.jpg
>
> Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen
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OOPS sorry I meant to address this to Victor!


On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 9:13 AM, Warren Ziegler <wd2xgj@gmail.com> wrote:
> Willem,
>     Yes low power last night. The power supply problem is solved,  I
> will soon be QRO again.
> Thanks for the capture, your receiving setup is working very well!
> --
> 73 Warren K2ORS
>                WD2XGJ
>                WD2XSH/23
>                WE2XEB/2
>                WE2XGR/1
>
> On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 12:23 AM,  <victor13@online.nl> wrote:
>> Still qrp Warren?
>>
>> 73
>>
>> Victor
>



-- 
73 Warren K2ORS
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Switched off at 0630 this morning, but unfortunately, according to the
database, no exotic receptions heard - just the usual culprits  'ISM
and XVL!

I see G4WGT was transmitting until around 2350 and note your quoted
power was 37dBm.

I thought we had agreed that for WSPR transmissions on the LF bands,
the power entered in the WSPR message would reflect (to at least a
reasonable approximation)  ERP and not RF power.    Hence my use of a
ridiculous figure (53dBm) when sending at very low power on Saturday.

Only certain power levels seem to be permissible - presumably those in
the pull-down menu in WSPR.EXE (windoze version) and there appear to
be 19.
While playing with WSPR.EXE (command line version) to generate teh
tone codes for my PIC /DDS combination, any value power level could be
entered, but when the subsequent symbol set was decoded, the software
threw up a {bad message] indicator instead of LOC and PWR. Presumably,
this makes for 20 stored power settings.  Its a pity that an illegal
power setting kills the LOC info as well, as the {bad message} code
would otherwise have been a good way to show a variable or non
specified power level.

Back to ERP vs. RF:  Legal values range from 0 to 60dBm, ie 1mW to
1kW.   While this is an ideal range for HF use where the power levels
are unlikely to be exceeded at either end (except by 'JNT on Friday on
10MHz with -2dBm, programmed as 0)  only a subset of values cover the
expected range of ERPs on LF -  0dBm to (now) 40dBm.     To allow for
QRP LF stations, can I suggest the values above 40dBm are used as
follows to reflect ERPs from -20 to 0dBm

Actual ERP = Stored value - 60
So if your ERP is below 0dBm, you programme a value of ERP + 60 into
your message.    This gives a discontinuity, and makes a nonsense of
the MEPTSpot website's ordering in terms of power or km per Watt

To save the discontinuity, another alternative would be to shift the
entire code-set by 20dB to reflect tens of microWatts rather than
milliwatts.   So now the total range would run from
-20dBm = "0"    to
+40dBm = "40"



Andy  G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com


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Hello Markus, LF,
I observed a similar signal in the last evening at ~23z, but on frequency 136430.
10 seconds transmit, 2 seconds a pause and periodically long breaks. Audible S5-S6.

73
Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV


>Since 9:00, I'm seeing 10s dashes with 2 s breaks, freq 136290Hz +- some drift, northerly DOA with some QSB, up to ~ 1 µV/m. It's 
>now on the bottom panel at http://freenet->homepage.de/df6nm/Grabber.htm
>
>GL de Markus, DF6NM 



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Hello Henny, Marco,
Thanks for the screenshots!

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Hi Lf
capture YO
Henny pa3cpm
73s
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Lf</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>73s</FONT></DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het volgende 
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Thanks to G7AQA, ON7YD, W1TAG, W0RPK, VE3EAR, K3SIW and W3NF for the reports. Transmitter was shut 
down at 0200Z. Looks like this mode is a bit of a stretch for T/A work although Mike was able to 
pull out a few clean lines of copy.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2 



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Hope to see vou soon Joe!

73

Victor

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens jcraig@mun.ca
Verzonden: zondag 22 februari 2009 1:46
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Onderwerp: Re: LF: 184kHz/QRV




Dear Group,

The antenna is back up and the TX is on 184.5093 kHz QRSS75.
Alan G3NYK is predicting declining conditions in a day or two, but
hopfully some will copy the sigs before then.

73 thanks and good luck
Joe VO1NA





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Hello Victor,

   Thank you for the capture!
-- 
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
                WE2XEB/2
                WE2XGR/1
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 12:24 AM,  <victor13@online.nl> wrote:
> Hi Warren,lf
>
> traces at 4:30z
>
> 73
>
> Victor


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Ok Andy

Left the set up  running  ..  if you download the  fldigi  software from the 
link
it has a front end  arq module .. which changes all the modes to  arq if
needed  .. simple box pops up  , enter 'mycall' and thats about it .. enter 
the
distant station call and press connect

should work like hf packet on prozac  hihi

tnx - graham

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Subject: Re: LF: FLDIGI IN FLARQ MODE OLIVIA 250 x 8 503 CENTRE FREQ

>
> Copy abt 50% of your transmission, but its weak and much QRM.  Tried
> replying, but not sure how to "connect".  Just replied manually using
> MultiPSK
>
> Andy  G4JNT
> www.g4jnt.com
>
>
>
> 2009/2/1 Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>:
>>
>> FLDIGI  IN FLARQ MODE  OLIVIA 250 x 8   503 CENTRE   FREQ
>>
>> Running  olivia 250 x 8  503 khz centre frequency
>> Software   FLDIGI , with  FLARQ  module running beacon 60  seconds , rx
>> open,
>> mycall set to  G0NBD
>> pls try connect .. should work .....
>> Graham .
>> http://www.w1hkj.com/Fldigi.html
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>



>
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> Version: 8.0.233 / Virus Database: 270.10.16/1928 - Release Date: 01/31/09 
> 20:03:00
> 



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Hi Graham, LF,

I've got 2 copies of Multipsk running, as you described earlier, on
501.00 dial frequ.

I get the occasional "CQ" and "nbd" in the gibberish on the Olivia
version, and nothing at all on the MT63 version.

I have heard the odd "two tone warble" that marks the start of an
Olivia transmission very, very faintly, but no real sign of the FSK
during the actual message. 

Let's see what the QSB does...

John



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"Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

> Hi John,
> 
> If you set up  multipsk on the 2 streams  may print from under the
> noise .. its a follow on from the other night with Gary , where I
> could not turn the power down low enough to  stop mt63 from
> printing .. less than 1 watt single tone .. just  barely showing on
> the waterfall ...  but mt63 is supposed to be 10 db less effective
> that mfsk .. that's a lot !
> 
> G ..


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Dear Dennis, LF,

thanks for the info!

Being curious, I observed the frequency last night and noticed the mode chan=
ge at 1:00. This was in fact coincident with the onset of the broadband "Lux=
embourg" noise on my LF grabber. A spectrum taken of the 177 kHz demodulated=
 audio confirmed the 41.67 Hz bands in the AM component of the multicarrier=20=
DRM signal, which are then impressed symmetrically around the DCF39 carrier=20=
by the nonlinear ionospheric effect.

This shows that a wide spread use of high power DRM modulated transmitters c=
ould have a very significant negative impact on the LF noise background.

Kind regards,
Markus, DF6NM

  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 6:43 PM
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  > A likely "heater" candidate
  > would be Zehlendorf 177 kHz, which has been reported in DRM mode after m=
idnight
  > - could someone perhaps confirm the times of digital operation?

  177kHz DRM-Mode from 2:00 - 5:00 local time, which means of course 1:00-4:=
00 UT at "wintertime" .

  73
  Dennis
  DL6NVC
  Berlin, 29km from Zehlendorf TX Tower=20

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dear Dennis, LF,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>thanks for the info!</FONT></DIV>
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on the LF noise background.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Kind regards,</FONT></DIV>
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 wspr and the over clocked sound card

Was there a resolve to the  problem of the  short wspr  tx produced by a 
soundcard that was running  slightly  faster than it  should

1.5 seconds short .....  about 1 %

, resulting in no decodes for strong signals .. presumably by providing  too 
many sync's

There is no way of changing the  sample  rate of the  card .. there is a 
option in the  driver . but  as soon as wspr  runs . the  card reverts to 
the  normal 44 khz setting

No problems with any of the  other  systems as the  card can be calibrated 
(though not  needed)

any  fixes or ideas ??

tnx

Graham ..



 




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Gus,

strong signal but I read it at 504.5kHz, so 503.0 dial
Despite it is S7 here on the meter I only get SNT between -6 and +4dB

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

Quoting Gus <begu@algonet.se>:

> MessageHi LF,Peter,Dave and Lee.
>
> Thank's for reports !
>
> Transmitter run also this evening, WSPR mode dial 503,2 USB 1W ERP.
>
> 73 de Gus SM6BHZ
>
>
>
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Lee Hudson
>   To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>   Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 4:38 AM
>   Subject: LF: SM6BHZ WSPR
>
>
>   Hi Gus,
>
>   WSPR Log received here.
>   Available on WSPRnet too.
>
>   73,
>   Lee M0LMH IO93gx.
>
>   0026 -13  0.8   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0028  -8  0.9   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0030  -5  1.7   0.504486  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0032  -2  1.4   0.504498  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0034  -2  1.4   0.504498  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0036  -3  1.5   0.504498  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0038  -4  1.6   0.504498  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0040  -3  2.0   0.504498  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0042  -1  1.7   0.504498  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0044  -2  1.8   0.504498  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0046  -4  1.9   0.504498  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0048  -5  1.8   0.504498  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0050  -8  2.2   0.504498  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0052  -1  2.2   0.504498  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0054   2  2.1   0.504498  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0056   1  2.0   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0058  -3  2.0   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0100  -1  2.1   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0102   0  2.3   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0104  -2  2.5   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0106  -1  2.5   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0108   0  2.4   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0110  -3  2.2   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0112 -10  2.6   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0114 -17  2.3   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0116 -15  2.6   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0118 -10  2.8   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0120  -5  2.5   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0122  -4  2.8   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0124  -1  2.6   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0126   0  2.7   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0128  -4  2.7   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0130  -3  2.6   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0132 -11  2.5   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0134  -4  2.9   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0136  -2  2.7   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0138  -4  2.7   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0140  -8  2.6   0.504499  1 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0142  -6  3.0   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0144  -4  3.0   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0146  -3  2.9   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0148  -3  2.9   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0150  -3  3.2   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0152  -3  3.4   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0154  -1  3.4   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0202 -10  3.1   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0204 -13  3.2   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0206 -11  2.8   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0208 -11  2.8   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0210  -9  3.2   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0212  -6  2.9   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0216  -3  3.2   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0218  -6  3.5   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0224  -5  4.1   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0226  -5  4.3   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0228  -3  4.4   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0230  -4  4.2   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>
>



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Why are you reporting such a low SNR, Jim ? Power was 23dBm (in spite
of what it says in the message - didn't reset it after yesterday)
I'm hitting the PA as hard as possible and RF is around the150 Watts
region.   You had positive reports on my sigs the other day

This broadband PA is rated for 200 Watts, but as it is specified for
0.5 to 40MHz, is right at the very bottom of its spec range.  The
antenna appears to have an input R of 31 ohms at the moment and this
impedance is reflected through a 5th order Elliptic LPF, and appears
as a higher Z at the load for the PA, hence, presumably, the reduced
Pmax.

Andy  G4JNT
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Hello Alberto and Marco, it was an unofficial transmission today at  10.00 
UTC and 11.00 UTC,
warm up was at 9.45 UTC
 
A local event,a visit of sweedish ingeeners to see the  Alexander alternator 
in work.
Reports are welcome.
 
Info from Willi REPPEL / SM6OMH member of SAQ team.
 
F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP
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Nil also !
73 Jean-Pierre f1afj

henny van elst a =E9crit :
> Hi Joe and LF
> nothing seen Joe
> Henny CPM
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Laurence, Markus, LF,
Here last night levels of signals DCF39 and "unid mfsk" were approximately identical.
Now, at 13 o'clock local time, level DCF39 is stronger on 20-25 db.
For the first time I heard this "unid mfsk" approximately one year ago.

73
Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV


> Our "data" signal was pretty strong on 139Khz this morning -
>
> Long Haul is pretty fair to only average towards Eu with both utility stations (DCF39 and Budapest) around 20dB above noise at
> times.
>
> I did a short .wav recording of this "new" signal http://www.kl1x.com/139.wav  you can hear DCF39 tone in the background. Is
> this Ankara running a new mode?
>
> Good signals from the Russian overnight - at their request Ill be slowing to dot 120 tonight - stitched shot at
> http://kl1x.com/1.jpg
>
> Regards Laurence
> Snowy NE China
>
>
>
>
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Hi Chris,

 

I expected something like that as all the other transmission times were
reported by you. I have had the same problems over night & in the morning
found nothing running so I also have turned that feature off.

 

Cheers,

 

Gary - G4WGT.

 

  _____  

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Chris McCarthy
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Gary,
 just to let you know the 2204 & 2210 readings missing due to XP doing an
automatic update and re-boot I've turned that feature off now!

Chris G3XVL




2009/2/25 Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>

Hi LF,

 

I have created a MS Excel spread-sheet for my WSPRing last night. I have
uploaded it to my website as it is too large for the LF group forum. On
three worksheets there is a graph in marker format, a graph in line format &
the data from the five stations who reported to the WSPR Spots page.

 

It is my first attempt at an Excel chart, please let me know what you think.
It can be downloaded at :-

 

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/WSPR01.xls

 

73,

 

Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.

 

 


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by you. I have had the same problems over night &amp; in the morning found
nothing running so I also have turned that feature off.<o:p></o:p></span></f=
ont></b></p>

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&nbsp;just to let you know the 2204 &amp; 2210 readings missing due to XP do=
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an automatic update and re-boot I've turned that feature off now!<br>
<br>
Chris G3XVL<br>
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<p><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-famil=
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<p><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-famil=
y:Arial; font-weight:bold'>I have created a MS Excel spread-sheet for my WSP=
Ring last
night. I have uploaded it to my website as it is too large for the LF group
forum. On three worksheets there is a graph in marker format, a graph in lin=
e
format &amp; the data from the five stations who reported to the WSPR Spots
page.</span></font></b><o:p></o:p></p>

<p><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-famil=
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<p><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-famil=
y:Arial; font-weight:bold'>It is my first attempt at an Excel chart, please=20=
let me know
what you think. It can be downloaded at :-</span></font></b><o:p></o:p></p>

<p><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-famil=
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<p><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-famil=
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<p><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-famil=
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     Hello,  I am now finding that I do not get much relevant
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    80 th  birthday  on  2  nd  April  and think that circumstances

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Hi Dave.
Your sketch looks like a HORIZ LOOP which would have different 
characteristics to a VERT LOOP.
It might be considered as a VERTICAL at 30 ft and top loaded.
73 mal/g3kev

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "dave.riley3" <dave.riley3@verizon.net>
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Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 4:53 PM
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> Glad you asked, Andy...  Hope this one makes it past the spam filter...
>
> Back in the commercial AM transmitter biz days I buried miles of extra
> copper in to poor conductivity soil and gained little or nothing.
> Then came Bill Ashloop who proved that a small transmit loop can do quite
> well.
> http://www.wireless.org.uk/loopy.htm
> http://www.w1tag.com/XESANT.htm
>
> So I surveryed the back yard which sits on very poor conductivity soil and
> therefore makes a loop appear to me more in free space and here are the
> advantages that I have found to date:
>
> No high voltage wire ends to start tree fires. No wasted power going into
> and out of the ground...
>
> Much less wire used in a LOOP transmit antenna. This #4 stranded HV wire
> rests inside of 100' sections of garden hose and is hoisted into trees 
> with
> help of compound bow and pull line.
>
> No top loading, no radials, much less noise on RX, E-Z to tune and weather
> does not affect the tuning much such as from rain or snow, and it acts 
> like
> a good vertical regardless of being much simpler.
>
> As for the CONS, well I just don't think of any...  Somebody??
>
> It works very well from 600M to 6M and is the only real antenna that I 
> still
> have.
>
> Various feeds as noted below will let you tune it down to SAQ@17kc which I
> always hear and also makes for superb DX on 6M in 'some directions'.
>
> ref: http://www.radiocom.net/600M/LOOP109.jpg
>
> Wish I had a El-Nec printout but can't seem to fit this version in to it.
>
> QSL SURE VIA E-MAIL
> 090226 0406   1 -29  0.0   0.503869  G4JNT IO90 23
> 090226 0610   3 -29  0.0   0.503869  G4JNT IO90 23
>
> Have a quiet night and TNX from Dave @ WD2XSH/17
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Andy Talbot" <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 11:16 AM
> Subject: LF: LF Antennas - back to basics
>
>
>> Having now been encouraged by being decoded now by at least two US
>> stations,  was wondering how much improvement in efficiency I could
>> scrape out of my existing antenna.  It is a Marconi Tee, the vertical
>> element consisting of three wires from the base tapering to 200mm
>> spacing at the top.  There it is attached to the centre of a a
>> capacity hat 15m long and 200mm wide made of three parallel wires.
>>
>> The ground system is a bit haphazard in my 7m wide by 12m long garden,
>> with about 4 wires meeting at the base of the antenna meandering
>> around the garden, starting off in different directions from teh base.
>> They are all connected to substantial ground rods in heavy clay  at
>> their far points, a with a few randomly spaced rods in between (I used
>> several 1m lengths of 15mm water pipe as well as proper rods - there
>> is probably about 9 or 10 rods in total, mostly 1 - 2m in length -
>> can't remember that far back!   Some of the earth conductors were also
>> bonded to the house wiring by a couple of substantial straps, and even
>> inside the house I added more straps at strategic places.   I also
>> ensured there was a good fat cable run directly under as much of the
>> capacity hat as possible.   As a test, disconnecting the PME earthing
>> bond and measuring the DC resistance between my total set of
>> connections and the incoming conductor ground/neutral point, the value
>> was a pretty consistent 3 ohms.  Haven't done this test for a few
>> years, but at the last check it was still of this order.
>>
>> Back in the 73kHz days a number of (mostly big!) stations were
>> surprised my signal was as strong as it was for probably the smallest
>> antenna in use then; G3LDO put it down to the fact I had concentrated
>> plenty of earthing wire to run directly under the top-hat.
>>
>> But, its all 14 years old,  still OK, but hopefully there's a wealth
>> of experience now, and I wonder if there are obvious improvements that
>> could be made:
>>
>> Firstly, bearing in mind there is no scope whatsoever to raise one end
>> of the capacity hat which is defined by the apex of the house roof,
>> and the other end would also need some major sugery to raise its heigh
>> substantially, that only leaves the middle, ie the height of the
>> actual radiator.    It wouldn't be too difficult to raise this to 10m
>> or even more with a fibreglass pole, but will I be throwing away all
>> the advantage by having the top-hat drooping down to 7m?
>>
>> Secondly, pictures of other peoples antennas aften show a substantial
>> grounding plate immediately under and around the antenna base.  Just
>> how far out is is worth going with a really substantial base.   I
>> could cut more conductors into the ground; while the ground is still
>> is still soggy in March may be a good time to do this.
>>
>> Any ideas please ...?
>>
>>
>> Andy  G4JNT
>> www.g4jnt.com
>>
>
>


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JIm,

Thanks for the connect ... reducing the packet length looks to  be a good 
idea .. as you can see from Rik's post the emails are plain text hihi

That has to  be a record qso  , 3 ways on  data and each printing 100% , 
Gary G4WGT  with 10 watts , I was running round 45 , last night each stream 
was 10 to  15 max

The arq mode is a little sticky .. but once running looked to  work nicely . 
I sent Gary a speclab capture . but where not sure where the file went !

Tnx-

Graham ..

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>
> Dear Graham,
>
> Well, I think it is set up OK, but at the moment your beacon signal is 
> very
> weak and not getting much copy here - so far your callsign has not 
> appeared
> in the FLARQ callsign window, which is what I think should happen. I will
> monitor your sigs until hopefully they get a bit stronger later on.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
>
>



>
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Hi Warren,
traces xgj
henny cpm
best 73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Warren,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>traces xgj</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>henny cpm</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>best 73s</FONT></DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het 
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Has forgotten to write... Pauses were synchronous with parcels HGA22.

> Hello Markus, LF,
> I observed a similar signal in the last evening at ~23z, but on frequency 136430.
> 10 seconds transmit, 2 seconds a pause and periodically long breaks. Audible S5-S6.
>
> 73
> Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV
>
>
>>Since 9:00, I'm seeing 10s dashes with 2 s breaks, freq 136290Hz +- some drift, northerly DOA with some QSB, up to ~ 1 µV/m. 
>>It's now on the bottom panel at http://freenet->homepage.de/df6nm/Grabber.htm
>>
>>GL de Markus, DF6NM
>
> 



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Modes changed

MT63   STOPPED

MFSK16 ,  Centre freq   1000 Hz audio

Approx  15 watts peak per stream

Thanks for reports .. will run this config  an hour or so

G ..

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Subject: LF: If anyones about , MT63  x 500 Hz and Olivia 500 x 8 running 
now 1935 hrs

>
> As a follow on to some tests  with Gary  , with Olivia  500 x 8 and the
> original MT63 system
>
> Running  two  data streams now at about 10  watts per mode , carrier
> frequencies are :-
>
> mt63   501.5 to  502 Khz
>
> olivia 500x8  503 Khz +/-  250 Hz
>
> The book says mt63 should not print as well as olivia .....
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> tnx - G ..
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>



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Nice captures here in JN45sl, using the Roelof mini-whip, Perseus
and Winrad+VAC+WSPR 1.01

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090202 2252  24  -7  1.6   0.504499  SM6BHZ JO57 30
090202 2254  27  -4  1.5   0.504499  SM6BHZ JO57 30
090202 2256  27  -4  1.6   0.504499  SM6BHZ JO57 30
090202 2258  25  -7  1.6   0.504499  SM6BHZ JO57 30
090202 2300  20 -11  1.6   0.504499  SM6BHZ JO57 30
090202 2302  22  -9  1.6   0.504499  SM6BHZ JO57 30
090202 2304  25  -7  1.7   0.504499  SM6BHZ JO57 30
090202 2306  25  -6  1.6   0.504499  SM6BHZ JO57 30
090202 2308  24  -8  1.7   0.504499  SM6BHZ JO57 30
090202 2310  19 -13  1.7   0.504499  SM6BHZ JO57 30
090202 2312  17 -15  1.8   0.504499  SM6BHZ JO57 30
090202 2314  18 -14  1.7   0.504499  SM6BHZ JO57 30
090202 2316  20 -11  1.7   0.504499  SM6BHZ JO57 30
090202 2318  22  -8  1.5   0.504499  SM6BHZ JO57 30
090202 2320  22  -9  1.6   0.504499  SM6BHZ JO57 30
090202 2322  20 -10  1.6   0.504499  SM6BHZ JO57 30
090202 2324  20 -11  1.7   0.504499  SM6BHZ JO57 30
090202 2326  21 -10  1.6   0.504499  SM6BHZ JO57 30
090202 2328  21 -10  1.7   0.504499  SM6BHZ JO57 30
090202 2330  19 -12  1.8   0.504499  SM6BHZ JO57 30
090202 2332  18 -13  1.7   0.504499  SM6BHZ JO57 30
090202 2334  17 -13  1.5   0.504499  SM6BHZ JO57 30
090202 2336  19 -12  1.6   0.504499  SM6BHZ JO57 30
090202 2338  19 -11  1.5   0.504499  SM6BHZ JO57 30
090202 2340  20 -10  1.7   0.504499  SM6BHZ JO57 30
090202 2342  20 -12  1.7   0.504499  SM6BHZ JO57 30
090202 2344  17 -13  1.6   0.504499  SM6BHZ JO57 30
090202 2346  20 -10  1.6   0.504499  SM6BHZ JO57 30
090202 2348  18 -12  1.6   0.504499  SM6BHZ JO57 30
090202 2350  19 -12  1.6   0.504499  SM6BHZ JO57 30
090202 2352  20 -10  1.5   0.504499  SM6BHZ JO57 30
090202 2354  23  -8  1.5   0.504499  SM6BHZ JO57 30
090202 2356  23  -8  1.5   0.504499  SM6BHZ JO57 30
090202 2358  22  -9  1.6   0.504499  SM6BHZ JO57 30
090203 0000  22  -9  1.6   0.504499  SM6BHZ JO57 30

73  Alberto  I2PHD




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Thank you Henny for the capture!
-- 
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
                WE2XEB/2
                WE2XGR/1

2009/2/10 henny van elst <cpm@planet.nl>:
> Hi Warren
> capture XGJ
> Henny cpm
> 73s
> Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden
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> Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen
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> Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe
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Dear Gus, LF group

Below  few  decoded signals  of your wspr beacon.


0104 -18  1.2   0.504503  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
0106 -15  1.3   0.504503  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
0108 -16  1.3   0.504503  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
0110 -21  1.2   0.504503  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
0112 -16  1.2   0.504503  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
0114 -13  1.3   0.504503  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
All  were  uploaded to wspr database but at this moment
i switched off  my rx  equipment  an finally going to get some sleep..
             
                                     73, peter, sq7mpj

qth: lodz, poland/jo91rs/





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Jay,

nil here at 2145Z, not even traces.
Last night I had traces starting 2120Z and first copy at 2144Z.
QRN is very bad for this time of the year.
I will leave the RX on overnight with WSPR running, so eventual copies  
will be uploaded.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

Quoting jrusgrove@comcast.net:

> Confirming start of WSPR transmission 2030Z on 507.000 dial frequency.
>
> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2



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jrusgrove@comcast.net wrote:

> WE2XGR/2 will be transmitting in MFSK8 mode on 508.5 kHz from 2130Z - 
> 0000Z tonight. Reports are appreciated.
>
> When using MultiPSK as the decoder be advised that the program has 
> been known to occasionally go on 'walkabout' after loss of signal. 
> Stopping and restarting the decoder seems to solve the problem.
>
> Jay  W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>
Hello Jay , LF group
there is another nice piece of software  including mfsk8 as one of its 
TX/RX modes:   IZ8BLY Stream program which can be  downloaded from:
http://xoomer.virgilio.it/aporcino/Stream/index.htm
and being free of  mentioned  'walkabout' problem.  in the most lower 
and right parts of the main program screen there is a small window where 
you can
precisely setup the desired qrg and just below unmark the AFC button

                                                                                                 
yours, peter, sq7mpj

qth: lodz, poland/jo91rs/






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Victor,
  Great capture! Thank you.
-- 
73 Warren K2ORS
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                WE2XGR/1


On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 1:41 AM,  <victor13@online.nl> wrote:
> Hi Warren,all
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> captured XGJ 6:00z
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>
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On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 04:20:35 -0800 (PST)
brian hodgson <g3ykb@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> I was brought up in Geordie-land. I went to college in Manchester and
> had arguments about how Manchester was in the South of England !! I
> still think I'm right....... Brian (G3YKB)


I was also born and bred in Geordie-land and also went to University
in Manchester, and had the same arguments! 

I used to say that the south started at the M62 and the midlands
stretched from the M62 to the River Wear.


I even married a Scouser who thinks that Liverpool is in the north.....!

Of course now, EVERYTHING in the UK is "down south" for us, but she
still thinks she's a Northerner, poor lass!

John
GM4SLV
Shetland.....

       



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Fine Jim

It was just a thought , had a session with Gary , I sent a 32 kb  jpg file 
over to  him but had to  use the bpsk  at 125 speed  ... 4000 seconds tx 
time .. the system worked ,...

Its a pity the chat mode is not arq controlled as that would solve the qsb 
problem at a stroke !

Thanks'

Graham ..



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From: "James Moritz" <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>
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>
> Dear Graham, LF Group,
>
> Only occasional recognisable bits of text here - none of the beacon
> transmissions were strong enough to copy in this mode.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
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>
>
>>
>>
>> Fldig  Farq beacon  bpsk125  503 Khz
>> running till  2400 , psl try connect
>>
>> tnx - G ..
>>
>
>
>



>
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yes it's OE5PGL in CW, currently calling CQ on 136.595.
 73 + GL de Markus, DF6NM

----- Original Message ----- 
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Just notice some activity on Markus' 136 kHz grabber, possibly from OE ?

HPE cul,
  73, Wolf .




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Hello Jean-Pierre, Henny, Nicolas,
Many thanks for the reports!

73
Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV


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Hi All,
capture WPF
Henny pa3cpm
73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
WPF 23-02.jpg

Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld.

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi All,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>capture WPF</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Henny pa3cpm</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>73s</FONT></DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het volgende 
bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:<BR>WPF 23-02.jpg<BR><BR>Opmerking: 
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ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de 
beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden 
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Hello LF!
I saw something interesting on 137.777. Is is LX effect?

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Hello LF!<br>I saw something interesting on 137.777. Is is LX effect?<br><br=
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Hi LF,Marco,Jay,Dave,Alberto,Roman.

Thank's for all reports and info during my WSPR test on 500 kHz.
I was testing a newbuild transverter and the power is moderate 1 W ERP.
It seams like WSPR is a good mode for loong distance and low power.

Best 73 de Gus SM6BHZ
http://www.sm6bhz.com/



----- Original Message ----- 
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To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 12:41 AM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: SM6BHZ WSPR


> Gus
> 
> From short listening period last night:
> 
> 090202 0206   1 -32  1.3   0.504499  SM6BHZ JO57 30 
> 090202 0210   3 -28  1.3   0.504499  SM6BHZ JO57 30 
> 
> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Gus" <begu@algonet.se>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 4:09 PM
> Subject: Re: LF: Re: SM6BHZ WSPR
> 
> 
>> Rik,
>> 
>> thank's report !
>> 
>> I did some test here, dial is now 503,0 kHz
>> 
>> Gus
>> 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Rik Strobbe" <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:00 PM
>> Subject: Re: LF: Re: SM6BHZ WSPR
>> 
>> 
>> Gus,
>> 
>> strong signal but I read it at 504.5kHz, so 503.0 dial
>> Despite it is S7 here on the meter I only get SNT between -6 and +4dB
>> 
>> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
>> 
>> Quoting Gus <begu@algonet.se>:
>> 
>>> MessageHi LF,Peter,Dave and Lee.
>>>
>>> Thank's for reports !
>>>
>>> Transmitter run also this evening, WSPR mode dial 503,2 USB 1W ERP.
>>>
>>> 73 de Gus SM6BHZ
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   ----- Original Message -----
>>>   From: Lee Hudson
>>>   To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>>>   Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 4:38 AM
>>>   Subject: LF: SM6BHZ WSPR
>>>
>>>
>>>   Hi Gus,
>>>
>>>   WSPR Log received here.
>>>   Available on WSPRnet too.
>>>
>>>   73,
>>>   Lee M0LMH IO93gx.
>>>
>>>   0026 -13  0.8   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0028  -8  0.9   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0030  -5  1.7   0.504486  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0032  -2  1.4   0.504498  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0034  -2  1.4   0.504498  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0036  -3  1.5   0.504498  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0038  -4  1.6   0.504498  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0040  -3  2.0   0.504498  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0042  -1  1.7   0.504498  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0044  -2  1.8   0.504498  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0046  -4  1.9   0.504498  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0048  -5  1.8   0.504498  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0050  -8  2.2   0.504498  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0052  -1  2.2   0.504498  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0054   2  2.1   0.504498  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0056   1  2.0   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0058  -3  2.0   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0100  -1  2.1   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0102   0  2.3   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0104  -2  2.5   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0106  -1  2.5   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0108   0  2.4   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0110  -3  2.2   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0112 -10  2.6   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0114 -17  2.3   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0116 -15  2.6   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0118 -10  2.8   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0120  -5  2.5   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0122  -4  2.8   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0124  -1  2.6   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0126   0  2.7   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0128  -4  2.7   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0130  -3  2.6   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0132 -11  2.5   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0134  -4  2.9   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0136  -2  2.7   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0138  -4  2.7   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0140  -8  2.6   0.504499  1 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0142  -6  3.0   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0144  -4  3.0   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0146  -3  2.9   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0148  -3  2.9   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0150  -3  3.2   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0152  -3  3.4   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0154  -1  3.4   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0202 -10  3.1   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0204 -13  3.2   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0206 -11  2.8   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0208 -11  2.8   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0210  -9  3.2   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0212  -6  2.9   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0216  -3  3.2   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0218  -6  3.5   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0224  -5  4.1   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0226  -5  4.3   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0228  -3  4.4   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0230  -4  4.2   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>
>>>
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Hi Warren,lf

good copy of your signal,

73

Victor

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Hi Warren,all

captured XGJ 6:00z

73

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WE2XGR/2 will be transmitting in MFSK8 mode on 508.5 kHz from 2130Z - 0000Z tonight. Reports are 
appreciated.

When using MultiPSK as the decoder be advised that the program has been known to occasionally go on 
'walkabout' after loss of signal. Stopping and restarting the decoder seems to solve the problem.

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Jim

Sorry to  read that , I have the old bbc radio merseyside tx about 1 miles 
from me  .. that was bad enough .. till  it started to  send 3 or 4 mw 
signals  . now its all over the place   .. roll on digital  bc ..  hopefully 
it will be turned off  ...   be like waking up on that  wonderful day and 
finding the decca signal had gone from 1.9 mhz  ... ...

G ..

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>
> Dear Andy, LF Group,
>
> Should be better now - I have been playing with antennas due to the 
> problem
> that arose yesterday with the increased noise levels. Incidentally, I just
> saw your frequency jump from 503870 to 503885 Hz in the middle of the 1830
> transmission, but still gave 0dB and +3dB SNRs - on two frequencies!
>
> After going out and about with a loop and portable RX, I am now pretty
> certain that the QRM is being radiated from the Brookmans Park transmitter
> site. I am not entirely certain, but there seems to be some correlation
> between the noise and the BBC R5 909kHz transmission audio, the antenna of
> which is about 500m from here. This was also the case before, but the QRM
> level has risen by about 20dB in the last day or so.
>
> As an experiment, I have lashed up an EWE-like antenna, and with suitable
> tweaking this gives about 20dB of unidirectional null, which has brought 
> me
> back to more or less where I was before, at least for signals coming from 
> a
> westerly direction. It is too big to be a permanent fixture, and also
> interacts with the TX antenna. But I think similar or better results will 
> be
> achievable by phasing a vertical antenna against the existing loops here.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
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>> Why are you reporting such a low SNR, Jim ?
>
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>



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.... Er no .. but what to  set and what to adjust .?. I assumed the  clock 
was on the  sound card .. small xtal oscillator ?

Tnx

G ..

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>
> Have you tried adjusting the PCI bus settings in CMOS..?
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
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>> Jordan
>>
>>
>> The card is a PCI  ,   M - Audio Delta 4
>>
>> running with windows  xp-pro
>>
>> There are a selection of clock speeds .. but  it seems that when a
>> application runs . it defaults to the 44k setting .. but  for all other
>> software .. no problem .. works very well
>>
>> G ..
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Jordan" <outposter30@shaw.ca>
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 11:59 PM
>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Subject: LF: Re: wspr and the over clocked sound card .. whats the  final
>> position ??
>>
>>>
>>> Is this for an on-board sound card, and if not, what type of bus is it
>>> on..?
>>> 73...Jordan....
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
>>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 4:50 PM
>>> Subject: LF: wspr and the over clocked sound card .. whats the final
>>> position ??
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> wspr and the over clocked sound card
>>>>
>>>> Was there a resolve to the  problem of the  short wspr  tx produced by 
>>>> a
>>>> soundcard that was running  slightly  faster than it  should
>>>>
>>>> 1.5 seconds short .....  about 1 %
>>>>
>>>> , resulting in no decodes for strong signals .. presumably by providing
>>>> too many sync's
>>>>
>>>> There is no way of changing the  sample  rate of the  card .. there is 
>>>> a
>>>> option in the  driver . but  as soon as wspr  runs . the  card reverts
>>>> to
>>>> the  normal 44 khz setting
>>>>
>>>> No problems with any of the  other  systems as the  card can be
>>>> calibrated
>>>> (though not  needed)
>>>>
>>>> any  fixes or ideas ??
>>>>
>>>> tnx
>>>>
>>>> Graham ..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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Andy,

Yes, letters are being sent out to all existing NoV holders. Re-application
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Dear Jay, LF Group,

Thanks.

The QRN level was building up here, but seems to have calmed down now...

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU

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> Jim
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Hello friends,

Not bad=C2=A0reception of SAQ transmission this morning in JN08WN (my job)
Not QSB and not QRN,thanx to Lars and the Grimeton's team.

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<WBR>Hello friends,<br>
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Not bad&nbsp;reception of SAQ transmission this morning in JN08WN (my job)<b=
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Not QSB and not QRN,thanx to Lars and the Grimeton's team.<br>
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<STRONG>F4DTL /P Nicolas</STRONG><br>
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Here Stream and Multipsk are working side by side for almost 1 hour =20
now (fingers crossed).
However no copy so far.
I leave them running overnight.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

Quoting jrusgrove@comcast.net:

> Gary
>
> The program keeps running okay here.
>
> A couple other points though. Unlike Multipsk one has to specify the
> lower edge of the bandpass - not the middle. This is 120 Hz below the
> center. In other words if 800 Hz is your received audio center
> frequency set the frequency to 680. Maybe there is a way to set it to
> the center...if so I havn't found it.
>
> The bigger problem is with other applications running at the same time.
> Just opened an internet browser and copy went to garbage. MultiPSK kept
> decoding properly.
>
> Jay
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 4:54 PM
> Subject: RE: LF: WE2XGR/2 in MFSK8
>
>
>> Jay, LF,
>>
>> I also downloaded Stream & it runs for about 30 seconds & freezes.
>>
>> 73 - Gary - G4WGT.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of
>> jrusgrove@comcast.net
>> Sent: 07 February 2009 21:42
>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>> Subject: Re: LF: WE2XGR/2 in MFSK8
>>
>> Rik and group
>>
>> Confirming start at 2130Z.
>>
>> Downloaded Stream earlier and was unable to get it to work. MultiPSK work=
s
>> fine. May very well be
>> cockpit error. Will  look into it.
>>
>> Jay
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rik Strobbe"  =20
>> <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 4:28 PM
>> Subject: Re: LF: WE2XGR/2 in MFSK8
>>
>>
>>> Jay,
>>>
>>> It just downloaded / installed stream (IZ8BLY).
>>> RX / PC is on 508.5 overnight
>>>
>>> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
>>>
>>> Quoting jrusgrove@comcast.net:
>>>
>>>> WE2XGR/2 will be transmitting in MFSK8 mode on 508.5 kHz from 2130Z -
>>>> 0000Z tonight. Reports are appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> When using MultiPSK as the decoder be advised that the program has been
>>>> known to occasionally go on 'walkabout' after loss of signal. Stopping
>>>> and restarting the decoder seems to solve the problem.
>>>>
>>>> Jay  W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Hi Andy, LF,

Point noted regarding the RF/ERP setting in WSPR for use on LF.

I had been using WSPR recently on 160 metres & of course did not change the
setting back to reflect the estimated ERP level.

Consider my knuckles rapped HI HI.

The ERP was about 2mW or 3dBm for last nights transmissions.

Cheers,

Gary - G4WGT.

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Andy Talbot
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Subject: LF: WSPRing and programmed ERPs

Switched off at 0630 this morning, but unfortunately, according to the
database, no exotic receptions heard - just the usual culprits  'ISM
and XVL!

I see G4WGT was transmitting until around 2350 and note your quoted
power was 37dBm.

I thought we had agreed that for WSPR transmissions on the LF bands,
the power entered in the WSPR message would reflect (to at least a
reasonable approximation)  ERP and not RF power.    Hence my use of a
ridiculous figure (53dBm) when sending at very low power on Saturday.

Only certain power levels seem to be permissible - presumably those in
the pull-down menu in WSPR.EXE (windoze version) and there appear to
be 19.
While playing with WSPR.EXE (command line version) to generate teh
tone codes for my PIC /DDS combination, any value power level could be
entered, but when the subsequent symbol set was decoded, the software
threw up a {bad message] indicator instead of LOC and PWR. Presumably,
this makes for 20 stored power settings.  Its a pity that an illegal
power setting kills the LOC info as well, as the {bad message} code
would otherwise have been a good way to show a variable or non
specified power level.

Back to ERP vs. RF:  Legal values range from 0 to 60dBm, ie 1mW to
1kW.   While this is an ideal range for HF use where the power levels
are unlikely to be exceeded at either end (except by 'JNT on Friday on
10MHz with -2dBm, programmed as 0)  only a subset of values cover the
expected range of ERPs on LF -  0dBm to (now) 40dBm.     To allow for
QRP LF stations, can I suggest the values above 40dBm are used as
follows to reflect ERPs from -20 to 0dBm

Actual ERP = Stored value - 60
So if your ERP is below 0dBm, you programme a value of ERP + 60 into
your message.    This gives a discontinuity, and makes a nonsense of
the MEPTSpot website's ordering in terms of power or km per Watt

To save the discontinuity, another alternative would be to shift the
entire code-set by 20dB to reflect tens of microWatts rather than
milliwatts.   So now the total range would run from
-20dBm = "0"    to
+40dBm = "40"



Andy  G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com



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Confirming start of WSPR transmission 2030Z on 507.000 dial frequency.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2


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Gary,
 just to let you know the 2204 & 2210 readings missing due to XP doing an
automatic update and re-boot I've turned that feature off now!

Chris G3XVL



2009/2/25 Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>

>  *Hi LF,*
>
> * *
>
> *I have created a MS Excel spread-sheet for my WSPRing last night. I have
> uploaded it to my website as it is too large for the LF group forum. On
> three worksheets there is a graph in marker format, a graph in line format &
> the data from the five stations who reported to the WSPR Spots page.*
>
> * *
>
> *It is my first attempt at an Excel chart, please let me know what you
> think. It can be downloaded at :-*
>
> * *
>
> *http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/WSPR01.xls*
>
> * *
>
> *73,*
>
>
>
> *Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.*
>
>
>

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Gary,<br>=A0just to let you know the 2204 &amp; 2210 readings missing due to=
 XP doing an automatic update and re-boot I&#39;ve turned that feature off n=
ow!<br><br>Chris G3XVL<br><br><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/2/25 G=
ary - G4WGT <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk">g4w=
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<p><b><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Arial"><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-f=
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<p><b><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Arial"><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-f=
amily: Arial; font-weight: bold;">=A0</span></font></b></p>

<p><b><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Arial"><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-f=
amily: Arial; font-weight: bold;">I have created a MS Excel spread-sheet for
my WSPRing last night. I have uploaded it to my website as it is too large f=
or
the LF group forum. On three worksheets there is a graph in marker format, a
graph in line format &amp; the data from the five stations who reported to t=
he
WSPR Spots page.</span></font></b></p>

<p><b><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Arial"><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-f=
amily: Arial; font-weight: bold;">=A0</span></font></b></p>

<p><b><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Arial"><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-f=
amily: Arial; font-weight: bold;">It is my first attempt at an Excel chart,
please let me know what you think. It can be downloaded at :-</span></font><=
/b></p>

<p><b><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Arial"><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-f=
amily: Arial; font-weight: bold;">=A0</span></font></b></p>

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ylor/WSPR01.xls" target=3D"_blank">http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/WSPR0=
1.xls</a></span></font></b></p>


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<p><b><b><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Arial"><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt; fon=
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t-family: Arial;">Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.</span></font></b></b></p>

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Hi Laurence,

yes, I am seeing this signal on 139.0 between the strong DCF bursts here - s=
outheasterly direction, same as the earlier FSK signals from Turkey. Actuall=
y smack in the middle of the DCF39 channel. And SXV still sits on the HGA 22=
 space frequency 135.77. Makes me wonder how European coordination works...

Nice fat traces from RN3AGC here (0.7 uV/m), also visible on your grabber I=20=
think.

Best wishes,

Markus, DF6NM
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Laurence BY3A-KL1X China=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 11:17 PM
  Subject: LF: 139 mfsk signal


  =20
  Our "data" signal was pretty strong on 139Khz this morning -
  =20
   Long Haul is pretty fair to only average towards Eu with both utility sta=
tions (DCF39 and Budapest) around 20dB above noise at times.=20
  =20
  I did a short .wav recording of this "new" signal http://www.kl1x.com/139.=
wav  you can hear DCF39 tone in the background. Is this Ankara running a new=
 mode?
  =20
  Good signals from the Russian overnight - at their request Ill be slowing=20=
to dot 120 tonight - stitched shot at http://kl1x.com/1.jpg
  =20
  Regards Laurence
  Snowy NE China



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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Hi Laurence,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>yes, I am seeing this signal&nbsp;on 139.0 between t=
he=20
strong DCF bursts here - southeasterly direction, same as&nbsp;the earlier F=
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signals from Turkey. Actually smack in the middle of the DCF39 channel. And=20=
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still sits on the HGA 22 space frequency 135.77.&nbsp;Makes me wonder&nbsp;h=
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European coordination works...</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Nice fat traces from RN3AGC here (0.7 uV/m), also vi=
sible=20
on your grabber I think.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Best wishes,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Markus, DF6NM</FONT></DIV>
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  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: 139 mfsk signal</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT><BR></DIV>&nbsp;<BR>Our "data" signal was p=
retty=20
  strong on 139Khz this morning -<BR>&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;Long Haul is pretty fai=
r to=20
  only average towards Eu with both utility stations (DCF39 and Budapest) ar=
ound=20
  20dB above noise at times. <BR>&nbsp;<BR>I did a short .wav recording of t=
his=20
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om/139.wav</A>&nbsp; you=20
  can hear DCF39 tone in the background. Is this Ankara running a new=20
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Hi Warren and All,
capture XGJ
Henny cpm
73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
XGJ 25-02.jpg

Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld.

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Warren and All,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Henny cpm</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>73s</FONT></DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het volgende 
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Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of 
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Jay, LF,

I also downloaded Stream & it runs for about 30 seconds & freezes.

73 - Gary - G4WGT.

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Rik and group

Confirming start at 2130Z.

Downloaded Stream earlier and was unable to get it to work. MultiPSK works
fine. May very well be 
cockpit error. Will  look into it.

Jay


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> Jay,
>
> It just downloaded / installed stream (IZ8BLY).
> RX / PC is on 508.5 overnight
>
> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
>
> Quoting jrusgrove@comcast.net:
>
>> WE2XGR/2 will be transmitting in MFSK8 mode on 508.5 kHz from 2130Z -
>> 0000Z tonight. Reports are appreciated.
>>
>> When using MultiPSK as the decoder be advised that the program has been
>> known to occasionally go on 'walkabout' after loss of signal. Stopping
>> and restarting the decoder seems to solve the problem.
>>
>> Jay  W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>
>
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HI Warren,lf,

very good signal at 0:00z

73

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Arnim Pomsel schrieb:
> Dr Mal !
> Tnx for QRSS / QSO yesterday!! It was my first QRSS /QSO !! Ur Sigs 
> are ufb ( T ) 15dB oN . Hope we have CW /QSO agn! My rig TX : homebrew 
> abt 500 Watts, Ant: GP 14 m high, toploadet, RX : Teletron TE 704c
> VY 73 es 55
> Arnim DL1EIE
>
>
SRI, SRI, The Signal was ( O ) !!!!!!! SRI
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On Wed, 04 Feb 2009 22:32:21 +0100
Rik Strobbe <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be> wrote:

> I just installed multipsk.
> I believe it is the most chaotic programme I have ever seen.

That's the truth!



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I can see the MFSK16 on a waterfall display. Nothing's decoded though
- it looks pretty faint on the grabber.

John


On Wed, 4 Feb 2009 21:11:51 -0000
"Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

> Modes changed
> 
> MT63   STOPPED
> 
> MFSK16 ,  Centre freq   1000 Hz audio
> 
> Approx  15 watts peak per stream
> 
> Thanks for reports .. will run this config  an hour or so
> 
> G ..
> 
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 7:39 PM
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> Subject: LF: If anyones about , MT63  x 500 Hz and Olivia 500 x 8
> running now 1935 hrs
> 
> >
> > As a follow on to some tests  with Gary  , with Olivia  500 x 8 and
> > the original MT63 system
> >
> > Running  two  data streams now at about 10  watts per mode , carrier
> > frequencies are :-
> >
> > mt63   501.5 to  502 Khz
> >
> > olivia 500x8  503 Khz +/-  250 Hz
> >
> > The book says mt63 should not print as well as olivia .....
> >
> > tnx - G ..
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> > No virus found in this incoming message.
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Dear LF,

I could just barely see Jay's WSPR signal, but a little too weak to decode here. The top panel in the attached picture shows the
faint traces, as seen on the WSPR spectrogram at 23:10.

The periodic nature of the WSPR signals tempted me to try SpecLab's built in averaging function to stack a number of 2 minute
cycles. The software signal generator was set up to deliver a burst every 120 seconds, which was used to trigger a new spectrogram
sweep each time. After gathering about eight averages at 23:13, the noise had leveled out a fair bit, and details of the modulation
started to become visible (middle). The start of the transmissions is on the first of the two minute markers. The bottom snapshot
was taken an hour later, including 38 averages.

This incoherent averaging is a slow process, as noise power is reduced only with the square root of the number of averages, ie.
1.5dB SNR gain for double observation time. The advantage is that it does not require long term phase stability of the propagation
path.

Stacking of a number of spectrogram captures could possibly be also applied to dig repeating QRSS beacons out of the noise, provided
the repetition period is precisely known a priori.

Kind regards,
Markus, DF6NM


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Hello Uwe, Markus, LF,

...testing a new machine...
Argo in qrss3.

73
Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV


> ...seen on 136.316 tonight.  73 de DF6NM

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Hi LF,

 

Running WSPR beacon tonight for a while.

 

Frequency 503.915KHz - 2 mW ERP (3dBm)

 

73,

 

Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.

 


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That's very interesting -  I appear to be 10 - 15dB better S/N with
you Johan (-5db S/N) at 1200km, than with GM4ISM (-20dB S/N) at 577km.

Background noise levels ?
Sea path ?

Andy  G4JNT
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2009/2/23 Johan H. Bodin <jh.bodin@telia.com>:
> Solid copy in JO67MR Andy, including the CW ID!
>
>
> 73
> Johan SM6LKM
>
> Andy Talbot wrote:
>> 503.870 +23dBm ERP running now,  34.375% duty cycle ...
>>
>> Andy  G4JNT
>> www.g4jnt.com
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Dear Graham,

Well, I think it is set up OK, but at the moment your beacon signal is very 
weak and not getting much copy here - so far your callsign has not appeared 
in the FLARQ callsign window, which is what I think should happen. I will 
monitor your sigs until hopefully they get a bit stronger later on.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
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Hi Joe,LF,
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Best 73s
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John & group

The following from my post this morning...

>In order to further 'probe' the T/A sunset / sunrise propagation extremes, WE2XGR/2 will transmit
>during two periods tonight. The first period will be 2030 - 2330Z and then again at 0630 - 0930Z.
>Reports, especially 'first in' and 'last out' would be appreciated. If anyone would like the times
>periods extended please let me know.

Will be back on at 0630Z.

Jay





----- Original Message ----- 
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> Jay, LF,
>
> I wonder if the WSPR TX is off at the moment, I see no one else has
> decoded anything beyond 23:32 and the waterfall shows an abrubt ending
> of a trace shortly into the 23:34 period.
>
> Hope all is well!
>
> John
> 



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> Hello LF-Group,
> I calling CQ the next 2 hours on +/- 137.700Khz in QRSS3 (every 10min.). 
> Later from 10-11pm UTC in QRSS60 on +/- 137.778KHz. Any report is very 
> welcome.
> I will be QRV also tomorrow morning.
>
> vy73
> Marco
> DD7PC
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>
>


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Hello Mike and the group,

Got one decode in WSPR here, around midnight. The limiting factor was 
not propagation, but QRM which can be described as an
"unstable buzzing / humming noise". Anyway, nice to see at least one 
line on the decoder screen.

0004 -30  0.9   0.508510  0 WE2XGR FN31 57

73,
  Wolf  DL4YHF  JO42FD .



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Hi lf,
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henny cpm
73s
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http://www.g4jnt.com/WE2XGR_Signal.jpg
Shows a screen dump of the WSPR signal display over the critical
period as it comes up out of the noise.

Will have to turn off at about 2300z.  I need to get up early to catch
the Gulag bus into work.

Andy
www.g4jnt.com


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Happy new year Jay ... your email was timestamped January(!) 1st, 2009, 
so I only found it by accident in the sorted list of recent mails.

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Joking aside, I will let WSPR run overnight. As usual, the QRM is 
terrible here at the moment. Not the faintest trace on the spectrogram yet.

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Hi, Jay, LF,

Here are my first and last....

2224 -26 -1.2   0.508529  0 WE2XGR FN31 57
0756 -29  0.0   0.508529  0 WE2XGR FN31 57

Cheers, de Mike G7AQA IO93DT.

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Sent: 01 February 2009 14:08
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Subject: LF: WE2XGR/2 WSPR

Wow! That generated quite a few reports.

Thanks to the multitude of stations for the suscessful 'spots' forwarded to
the WSPR database. The list includes: GM4SLV, G3XVL, OR7T, K3SIW, G4JNT,
AA1A, G3YPE, G4WGT, AA5AM, G7AQA, DL4YHF, W3NF, NW5R, F4DTL, M0LMH, K9FH and
VE7BDQ.

Also thanks to W1TAG, VE3EAR, M0BMU  and VA7JX for their reports and anyone
else that took the time to look. Hope I didn't forgot anyone.

The earliest reception was by GM4SLV at 44 minutes before local sunset here.
With clear skies the sun was still shining bright at the time.
Unfortunately, the transmitter was shut down prematurely at 0757Z so there
wasn't a chance to check propagation past sunrise in most of EU - especially
at GM4SLV's location with a sunrise at about 0830Z.

In order to further 'probe' the T/A sunset / sunrise propagation extremes,
WE2XGR/2 will transmit during two periods tonight. The first period will be
2030 - 2330Z and then again at 0630 - 0930Z. 
Reports, especially 'first in' and 'last out' would be appreciated. If
anyone would like the times periods extended please let me know.

Thanks again to everyone participating in the tests.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2




 




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Hello Rik
Tnx for the report and glad u can copi me during the daytime now with the 
higher erp.
Hpe to work u soon agn, try a daytime QSO.
de mal/g3kev

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> Dave,
>
> l believe that G3XIZ was transmitting QRSS30 on that frequency, saw
> him on Gary's grabber.
>
> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
>
> BTW: inter-Europe condx seemed very good yesterday:
> DI & OK beacons were booming as was SK6RUD.
> Also good copy of GI4DPE beacon (peaking 579)
> Strong (599+) daytime copy of G3KEV, obviously enjoying the new 10W
> ERP privileges
>
>
> At 03:07 20/02/2009, you wrote:
>>UNID QRSS on 503.950 now, too much QRN
>>
>>
>>TNX
>>
>>Dave @ WD2XSH/17
>>
>>
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Andy,

I am monitoring and uploading eventual spots.
I will leave the RX / PC on overnight, so whoever want to give it a try ...

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

Quoting Andy Talbot <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>:

> Just for a bit of novelty, I'm running probably the lowest power WSPR
> signal seen on this band.   Frequency 503.87kHz (set the usual USB
> carrier 502.4) RF power is -2dBm, so ERP is in the region of -27dBm.
> Duty cycle 33% (well, actually, 34.375%, but who's counting)
>
> Judging by some of the WSPR reports on my signal when runing 100 Watts
> in the past, a few local stations may just be able to decode it.
>
> As for PN sequences, I admited defeat and just wrote down a series of
> ones and zeros then played with them till they looked right and had
> the correct numbers of each in a  32 bit pattern (which is why 33% and
> 20% duty cycle values aren't spot-on)
> On the assumptuin that its not random at all, why try to generate
> other than by eye?
>
> Interesting to know Joe had a similar headache over this issue, Scott.
>  Clearly it isn't a 'mountain out of a molehill' problem after all.
>
>
> Andy  G4JNT
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Nb . no rx cycle

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>
> As a follow on to some tests  with Gary  , with Olivia  500 x 8 and the
> original MT63 system
>
> Running  two  data streams now at about 10  watts per mode , carrier
> frequencies are :-
>
> mt63   501.5 to  502 Khz
>
> olivia 500x8  503 Khz +/-  250 Hz
>
> The book says mt63 should not print as well as olivia .....
>
> tnx - G ..
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I'll let it run overnight and will be switching off at 0630 UTC.

Andy  G4JNT
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2009/2/22 dave.riley3 <dave.riley3@verizon.net>:
> DE WD2XSH/17 tuned for WSPRs from G4JNT and G4WGT on or about 503.900 +/-
> 100HZ.
>
> Please advise your quitting times, else will let it run all night...
>
> TNX
>
> Dave
>
>
> re:
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Details of my first version of a directly generated WSPR signal can be found at
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nNice capture AGC
Henny Cpm
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Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
agc 13-02.jpg

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>73</FONT></DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het volgende 
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Mike Stans address can be found by pressing the reply button on his message
andrewss ( at ) earthlight dot co dot nz  (suitably "munged" to prevent
harvesting)
The data is ok but incomplete the....the line in the message must be the
first line and with no leading spaces. It is best followed by "end" on the
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confuses the simple parser in majordomo and results in no action.

I did post my usual message through the group at 2250z but it hasn't
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> Hi Jack,
>
> I will forward it to Stan and the list for others. Thanks much!!!
>
> Mike
> WE0H
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>
> Jack wrote:
> > Hi Mike, I came across this e-mail on how to remove oneself from
> > blacksheep, hopefully for him this will help.  I no longer have Stan's
> > e-mail address, otherwise I would have sent it directly to him.
> >
> > Jack - VA7JX
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> >
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> > This is the general rule for most mailing lists when you need
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Hello Warren, LF!
Poor propagation this morning, I saw some traces only.=20

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

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Dear Graham, LF Group,

The default locations for the sent/received files are apparently 
C:\NBEMS\ARQrecv, ARQsend, Mail

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU


> The arq mode is a little sticky .. but once running looked to  work nicely 
> . I sent Gary a speclab capture . but where not sure where the file went !
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Hi Joe,lf,

just very weak traces,

73

Victor

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Assume 57dBm refers to Tx power.   What esitimated ERP is WE2XGR running ?

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2009/2/1  <F4DTL@aol.com>:
> Hello Jay, nice conditions this night,
>
> F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP
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> RX : Icom IC7400
> Ant: Wellbrook LFL 1010
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> 090201 0156  16 -16  0.8   0.508510  WE2XGR FN31 57
> 090201 0158  15 -17  0.8   0.508510  WE2XGR FN31 57
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Hello Warren, LF!
Very good reception this night. PA is doing well!

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Hello Victor, Henny,
Thanks for the reports!

73
Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV


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Good on Ya, John...

Wondered if you were away...  This #4 wire loop lives inside of 100' 
sections of good garden hose...
The hopefully high resistance pine brances are good stakes @ 70+ feet...
Actually, the only high voltage points are here in the shack where it meets 
it's variable vacuum cap and coupling...


So far no tree fires...

'G'... Thats the answer fer sure...  Effective height...  The only sound 
loop advice I ever got before Bill Ashloop era usta be, the MOST real ESTATE 
( square footage ) inside the loop as possible...

I'm hoping to see how long this one will last as I place new and improved 
'parasitic' loops in the near field ( parralell ) becoming critical coupled 
in the hopes of lowering this ubiquitious 'R' value...  If we only had some 
negative resistant paint...

Finally rationalized why all the big time 600M stations were on the salty 
water coast... Although you can notice the attenuation even 3 miles in from 
the beach here, the 23KV 3 phase lines that go by here on the way sure looks 
like a long terminated beveredge to me pointed straight on the great circle 
to EU...

Duty free gift, I recon...  Now for the QRN reduction program...  You 
cracked the code OK on better and best digi weak sigs detectors...
WSPR making good show from EU lately...  Must get QSO version... If only 
peanut whistle 20 watters could fly...

Until the sound of,

Dave







----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Andrews" <w1tag@charter.net>
To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, & UK) and MedFer bands" 
<lowfer@mailman.qth.net>; "600MRG" <shmrg@piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu>
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> After being off the air since an ice storm on December 11-12, it looks 
> like WE2XGR/3 is again among the living. The big loop is oddly shaped, but 
> it does take power. There's not much that can be done for the tangle at 
> the upper eastern end, though! After removing several large branches from 
> the western side over the last two months, at least that end is roughly at 
> normal height. It remains to be seen how stable the shape will be, as 
> there are a number of badly damaged trees involved in holding it up.
>
> I'm guessing that the performance at 500 kHz won't be much worse than the 
> original setup, so XGR/3 will be the focus for the limited evening time I 
> have available at this point. The insulation on the #4 THHN wire is in 
> tough shape, and there are lots of new and strange points of contact to 
> the trees, so unattended operation won't be a good idea.
>
> WE2XGR/3 will be running MFSK16 on 508.500 kHz tonight from 0000 to 0200, 
> and then we'll see if USB still works on 510.
>
> John Andrews, W1TAG
>
>
> *********** The Primary 600MRG E-mail List Website is: **********
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Hi MFGRP
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Soldering irons at fhe ready.
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OE5ODL was active several times today, up to about 6 uV/m here. This capture=
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On Sun, 1 Feb 2009 15:30:29 -0500
<jrusgrove@comcast.net> wrote:

> Confirming start of WSPR transmission 2030Z on 507.000 dial frequency.
> 
> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
> 
Jay, LF,

First decode at 21:48, aafter a few periods of weakly visible signs on
the waterfall.

21:48 -28dB

Hope you can keep the transmission going right through the UK sunrise
period - say to 10:00 UTC.

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Andy,
you WSPR signal is very strong here in Germany JN59no.
vy 73 de
Roland DL3NDR former DI2AT



Rik Strobbe schrieb:
> Andy,
>
> the CW ID is 559 here, WSPR is no challenge ;-)
>
> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
>
> Quoting Andy Talbot <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>:
>
>> WSPR beacon now running
>> 503.870kHz centre, SSB Dial freq 502.4kHz >> 1470Hz
>> 33% duty cycle (32 frame repeat).
>>
>> Andy  G4JNT
>> www.g4jnt.com
>>
>>
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Strong signal,

73

Victor

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Well  .. yes ...

G ..

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>
> On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 20:48:39 -0000
> "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
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>>  I could  rig up the pk232
>> .. but who ealse has one ?
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> I think I know that answer to that question....!
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> J
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Wow! That generated quite a few reports.

Thanks to the multitude of stations for the suscessful 'spots' forwarded to the WSPR database. The 
list includes: GM4SLV, G3XVL, OR7T, K3SIW, G4JNT, AA1A, G3YPE, G4WGT, AA5AM, G7AQA, DL4YHF, W3NF, 
NW5R, F4DTL, M0LMH, K9FH and VE7BDQ.

Also thanks to W1TAG, VE3EAR, M0BMU  and VA7JX for their reports and anyone else that took the time 
to look. Hope I didn't forgot anyone.

The earliest reception was by GM4SLV at 44 minutes before local sunset here. With clear skies the 
sun was still shining bright at the time. Unfortunately, the transmitter was shut down prematurely 
at 0757Z so there wasn't a chance to check propagation past sunrise in most of EU - especially at 
GM4SLV's location with a sunrise at about 0830Z.

In order to further 'probe' the T/A sunset / sunrise propagation extremes, WE2XGR/2 will transmit 
during two periods tonight. The first period will be 2030 - 2330Z and then again at 0630 - 0930Z. 
Reports, especially 'first in' and 'last out' would be appreciated. If anyone would like the times 
periods extended please let me know.

Thanks again to everyone participating in the tests.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2




 



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Nice capture Warren

73

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       Would you please close my  connection blacksheep. org.

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Hello Victor , Joe ,
Nothing here last night .
73 J-P f1afj

victor13@online.nl a =E9crit :
> Hi Joe,lf,
>
> just very weak traces,
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> 73
>
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Copy abt 50% of your transmission, but its weak and much QRM.  Tried
replying, but not sure how to "connect".  Just replied manually using
MultiPSK

Andy  G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com



2009/2/1 Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>:
>
> FLDIGI  IN FLARQ MODE  OLIVIA 250 x 8   503 CENTRE   FREQ
>
> Running  olivia 250 x 8  503 khz centre frequency
> Software   FLDIGI , with  FLARQ  module running beacon 60  seconds , rx
> open,
> mycall set to  G0NBD
> pls try connect .. should work .....
> Graham .
> http://www.w1hkj.com/Fldigi.html
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>
>
>
>


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just one fragment,
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2nd try...


Hi LF!

Coming back home I switched on the LW-radio, tuned to 189kHz.
Regularely observing this RUV transmitter Gufuskálar since 16.Jan.2009, it's amazing to get "a propagation feeling" on this quite distant path. :) and to listen to an unknown language, and to different music...

Listening 0:19UT-01:00UT, tonight it was necessary to reduce the RX sensitivity, because the signal was stronger than usual,  overdriving the RX at full sensitivity. For the first time reception was Q5, with only slight interferences from the 12kHz lower DLR on 177kHz; (it's TX is only 29km away from my home.)

Even after DLR's 177kHz swichover to DRM modulation at 01:00UT, which normally means everything around incl. BBC4 is drowning in the terrible broadband noise, tonight RUV remains detectable Q2 in the artificial noisefloor.

rx:  homemade trf 
ant: abt. 20sqm wire-loop abt. 10m agl
qrb Hellissandur-Berlin: 2505km

So, at least, the path Berlin-Iceland seems to be much enhanced tonight.
Watch out for DX on LF and MF :) :) :)

Good night
Dennis
DL6NVC


PS: I'm sorry for posting twice. Keyboard problems.















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G, LF,

I can't see anything meaningful, or decodable, so I've switched to a
grabber instead, to at least look for traces in the noise...

If anything apperars I'll restart Multipsk.

To observe the grabber
http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/gm4slv/gm4slv_500.jpg

Uploads every 5 minutes. Currently visible is GI4DPE at 501.058 and not
much else. Coverage is from 501 - 502.6

Cheers,

John



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Feb 2009 20:33:37 -0000 "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

> Mode change
> 
> From the initial reports it looks like the MT63 system is not as
> robust at the olivia 500 x 8
> 
> I will  change the MT63  mode to  MFSK16  , at  1000 Hz audio cent ,
> ( 502 Khz  rf cent )
> 
> As mfsk will pass via a non linear system , this may be of wider
> interest
> 
> Change time  >>> 2100 Hrs gmt <<<<
> 
> tnx - G ..
> 


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MFGRP
I am fhinking of installing a 1/2 wave dipole for 500 khz. In the firsrt ins=
tance at 100 ft high and possibly later at 120ft. Height low compared to fre=
q, but this experiment would be useful to compare against the inv L system a=
nd propagation both daytime and night time.

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am fhinking of installing a 1/2 wave dipo=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Reports appreciated</FONT></DIV>
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On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 20:48:39 -0000
"Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

>  I could  rig up the pk232 
> .. but who ealse has one ?

I think I know that answer to that question....!

J


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Good morning,
very good copy of RA3YO between ~00:15 - 02:45UTC and what a surprise
WD2XGJ from 23:30 until 05:30.
Sure signal was weak on my Miniwhip, but i copied several letters - see
attachment.

vy73
Marco
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Hi Gus,
 
WSPR Log received here.
Available on WSPRnet too.
 
73,
Lee M0LMH IO93gx.
 
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Hi Joe,Lf
very litlle trace vo1na
Henny cpm
73s
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Joe,Lf</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>very litlle trace vo1na</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Henny cpm</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>73s</FONT></DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het volgende 
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That may be a problem  as the pc has  3 sound cards , the  M-audio , 
soundblaster and a usb ads , the  ads and the  soundblaster  work fine . but 
not  the m-audio ...but the  m-audio works fine with the  other 
applications , multipsk, fldigi, etc

If the  wspr package had a routine to  calibrate the  card , would be ok,  ?

tnx- G ..

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Jordan" <outposter30@shaw.ca>
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Subject: Re: LF: Re: wspr and the over clocked sound card .. whats the 
final position ??

>
> No Graham... it is in your CMOS boot set-up....you should be able to 
> adjust
> the PCI bus speed, or perhaps the clock divider speed that the bus clock 
> is
> based on....73...Jordan....
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 9:51 AM
> Subject: Re: LF: Re: wspr and the over clocked sound card .. whats the 
> final
> position ??
>
>
>> Jordan
>>
>> ... Er no .. but what to  set and what to adjust .?. I assumed the  clock
>> was on the  sound card .. small xtal oscillator ?
>>
>> Tnx
>>
>> G ..
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Jordan" <outposter30@shaw.ca>
>> Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 1:08 AM
>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Subject: Re: LF: Re: wspr and the over clocked sound card .. whats the
>> final position ??
>>
>>>
>>> Have you tried adjusting the PCI bus settings in CMOS..?
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
>>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 5:09 PM
>>> Subject: Re: LF: Re: wspr and the over clocked sound card .. whats the
>>> final
>>> position ??
>>>
>>>
>>>> Jordan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The card is a PCI  ,   M - Audio Delta 4
>>>>
>>>> running with windows  xp-pro
>>>>
>>>> There are a selection of clock speeds .. but  it seems that when a
>>>> application runs . it defaults to the 44k setting .. but  for all other
>>>> software .. no problem .. works very well
>>>>
>>>> G ..
>>>>
>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>> From: "Jordan" <outposter30@shaw.ca>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 11:59 PM
>>>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>>>> Subject: LF: Re: wspr and the over clocked sound card .. whats the
>>>> final
>>>> position ??
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Is this for an on-board sound card, and if not, what type of bus is it
>>>>> on..?
>>>>> 73...Jordan....
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
>>>>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 4:50 PM
>>>>> Subject: LF: wspr and the over clocked sound card .. whats the final
>>>>> position ??
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> wspr and the over clocked sound card
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Was there a resolve to the  problem of the  short wspr  tx produced 
>>>>>> by
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> soundcard that was running  slightly  faster than it  should
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1.5 seconds short .....  about 1 %
>>>>>>
>>>>>> , resulting in no decodes for strong signals .. presumably by
>>>>>> providing
>>>>>> too many sync's
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is no way of changing the  sample  rate of the  card .. there 
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> option in the  driver . but  as soon as wspr  runs . the  card 
>>>>>> reverts
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> the  normal 44 khz setting
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No problems with any of the  other  systems as the  card can be
>>>>>> calibrated
>>>>>> (though not  needed)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> any  fixes or ideas ??
>>>>>>
>>>>>> tnx
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Graham ..
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>
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>>
>>
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>
>
>



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Hi Victor,

  Thanks for the FB capture!
-- 
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On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 12:31 AM,  <victor13@online.nl> wrote:
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>
> good copy of your signal,
>
> 73
>
> Victor


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Sri guys had a glitch today and she was down over sunset...

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Thank you Willem!

On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 1:12 AM, Willem De Roode <wdr@casema.nl> wrote:
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>
> Hi Warren
>
> Traces off xgj
>
> 73s Willem pa3ego
>



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Hi Warren and LF
Nice captureXGJ
Henny CPM
73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
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Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld.

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Warren and LF</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Nice captureXGJ</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Henny CPM</FONT></DIV>
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Andy,


Quoting Andy Talbot <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>:

> Firstly, bearing in mind there is no scope whatsoever to raise one end
> of the capacity hat which is defined by the apex of the house roof,
> and the other end would also need some major sugery to raise its heigh
> substantially, that only leaves the middle, ie the height of the
> actual radiator.    It wouldn't be too difficult to raise this to 10m
> or even more with a fibreglass pole, but will I be throwing away all
> the advantage by having the top-hat drooping down to 7m?

Raising one end of the antenna should increase the radiation =20
resistance, even if the tophat is drooping.
G4CNN (SK) did extensive calculations on this matter, see =20
http://www.strobbe.eu/on7yd/136ant/#Umbrella

> Secondly, pictures of other peoples antennas aften show a substantial
> grounding plate immediately under and around the antenna base.  Just
> how far out is is worth going with a really substantial base.   I
> could cut more conductors into the ground; while the ground is still
> is still soggy in March may be a good time to do this.

If found out that on 500kHz (ground) losses are much lower than on 136 =20
or even 73kHz. On 136kHz I measured a loss resistance of 130-160 Ohm =20
(winter - summer), on 500kHz it is 35-60 Ohm. At these values I =20
reached a point where the loss is the loading coils (abt. 7 Ohm) is no =20
longer neglectable.

Another thing that might improve teh antenna is placing (a part of) =20
the loading coil at the top of the vertical part, see =20
http://www.strobbe.eu/on7yd/136ant/#CombTop

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T







>
> Any ideas please ...?
>
>
> Andy  G4JNT
> www.g4jnt.com
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>



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Hi Joe thanks for the "plug" :-)). It is all down to the amount of help I
have had from many sources....if I could crack the fading prediction we
would really be there. Your signal being "right on the edge" is very useful
as a guide. It only needs a few dB of extra absorption or a slight
favourable fading lift and the difference is quite dramatic. Thanks to all
those monitoring and posting reports....these are extremely useful....even
if only for my confidence factor :-)) It is unfortunate there are no
reliable steady signal sources (like DCF39)  available to monitor aroung
500k.

Best wishes all
Alan G3NYK


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>
> Many thanks to Jean-Pierre, Henny, Victor and Willem for the
> recent reports.  The strong receptions in the Netherlands on
> the 17th were quite amazing, and Alan's ability to predict
> favourable transatlantic conditions is remarkable!
>
> 73 and thanks to all
> Joe
>



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Hi Andy,

I have done nothing, it just came in the post today.
I will get the letter out if you want more details.

73

Gary - G4WGT.

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Andy Talbot
Sent: 18 February 2009 20:26
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: RE: New NOV

Are they being automatically extended, or is reapplication necessary ?

Andy  G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com



2009/2/18 Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>:
> Hi Mark, LF,
>
>
>
> Received my new NoV today also.
>
>
>
> I echo thanks to all who negotiated for the further 1 year extension.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
>
>
> Gary - G4WGT.
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Mark
> Sent: 18 February 2009 11:42
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: LF: New NOV
>
>
>
> Gents
>
> I am please to report that a new NOV for 500KHz just arrived.
>
> The new NOV runs until 28 Feb 2010 and allows +10dBW,  501 to 504 KHz with
> immediate effect.
>
>
>
> Work will therefore start on the transverter here, though 10W ERP will not
> be possible from this antenna.
>
> Filed strengths will be too high and I may have serious voltage rating
> issues.
>
>
>
> Many thanks to all those quietly involved in the background in getting the
> NOV extended
>
> mark GM4ISM
>
> www.dc2light.co.uk
>
>
>
> Grabber and WSPR decoder  24/7 subject to external influences (eg 3 days
> with no internet last week!)
>
>



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Hello Warren,lf

juust a weak copy of your signal at 7:30z

73

Victor

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Hi Warren ,

Hol=E0 ! very very stong signal now !!!!!
Here the storm is very violent (110km/h)
in this moment

73 qro Jean-Pierre




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Bonsoir Jean-Pierre,

    I hope the wind does not damage your antenna!
Thank you for the report!
--
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
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> Hol=E0 ! very very stong signal now !!!!!
> Here the storm is very violent (110km/h)
> in this moment
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> 73 qro Jean-Pierre
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Rik,

thank's report !

I did some test here, dial is now 503,0 kHz

Gus


----- Original Message ----- 
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Gus,

strong signal but I read it at 504.5kHz, so 503.0 dial
Despite it is S7 here on the meter I only get SNT between -6 and +4dB

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

Quoting Gus <begu@algonet.se>:

> MessageHi LF,Peter,Dave and Lee.
>
> Thank's for reports !
>
> Transmitter run also this evening, WSPR mode dial 503,2 USB 1W ERP.
>
> 73 de Gus SM6BHZ
>
>
>
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Lee Hudson
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>   Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 4:38 AM
>   Subject: LF: SM6BHZ WSPR
>
>
>   Hi Gus,
>
>   WSPR Log received here.
>   Available on WSPRnet too.
>
>   73,
>   Lee M0LMH IO93gx.
>
>   0026 -13  0.8   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0028  -8  0.9   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0030  -5  1.7   0.504486  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0032  -2  1.4   0.504498  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0034  -2  1.4   0.504498  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0036  -3  1.5   0.504498  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0038  -4  1.6   0.504498  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0040  -3  2.0   0.504498  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0042  -1  1.7   0.504498  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0044  -2  1.8   0.504498  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0046  -4  1.9   0.504498  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0048  -5  1.8   0.504498  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0050  -8  2.2   0.504498  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0052  -1  2.2   0.504498  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0054   2  2.1   0.504498  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0056   1  2.0   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0058  -3  2.0   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0100  -1  2.1   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0102   0  2.3   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0104  -2  2.5   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0106  -1  2.5   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0108   0  2.4   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0110  -3  2.2   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0112 -10  2.6   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0114 -17  2.3   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0116 -15  2.6   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0118 -10  2.8   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0120  -5  2.5   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0122  -4  2.8   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0124  -1  2.6   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0126   0  2.7   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0128  -4  2.7   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0130  -3  2.6   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0132 -11  2.5   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0134  -4  2.9   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0136  -2  2.7   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0138  -4  2.7   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0140  -8  2.6   0.504499  1 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0142  -6  3.0   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0144  -4  3.0   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0146  -3  2.9   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0148  -3  2.9   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0150  -3  3.2   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0152  -3  3.4   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0154  -1  3.4   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0202 -10  3.1   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0204 -13  3.2   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0206 -11  2.8   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0208 -11  2.8   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0210  -9  3.2   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0212  -6  2.9   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0216  -3  3.2   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0218  -6  3.5   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0224  -5  4.1   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0226  -5  4.3   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0228  -3  4.4   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0230  -4  4.2   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
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Strong signal XGJ

73

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Still qrp Warren?

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HI Warren,lf,

a complete callsign,

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Hello Warren, LF!
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Hello Warren, LF!<br>Good propagations this night. When I was receiving DX s=
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Graham,

despite good audible signals I did not manage to decode the MFSK16 signal.
Most likely due to my lack of experience.

I am now closing the station to get some sleep.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

PS:
I just noticed a very odd event on 500: a CW QSO (between GI4DPE, 549 =20
here, and G3GNR, not audible).

Quoting Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>:

> Ok Rik,
>
> Yes ... hihi
>
> Running
>
> USB Dial  freq - 501.000  Khz
>
> olivia  250 x 8  centre freq      2000  Hz audio    503 Khz  rf
>
> MFSK  16  centre freq  1000 Hz audio     502Khz rf
>
> Tnx - G ...
>
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Rik Strobbe" <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 9:32 PM
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> Subject: Re: LF: Olivia 500 x 8  MFSK16  NOW RUNNING
>
>>
>> Graham,
>>
>> I just installed multipsk.
>> I believe it is the most chaotic programme I have ever seen.
>>
>> Right now 21:28UTC I hear alternating signals on 502 and 503.
>>
>> As I am not in the mood of reading the multipsk manual today could you
>> just tell me what mode is running where and what dial frequency / mode
>> (USB or LSB) I should set the RX to?
>>
>> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
>>
>> Quoting Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>:
>>
>>> Modes changed
>>>
>>> MT63   STOPPED
>>>
>>> MFSK16 ,  Centre freq   1000 Hz audio
>>>
>>> Approx  15 watts peak per stream
>>>
>>> Thanks for reports .. will run this config  an hour or so
>>>
>>> G ..
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> From: "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 7:39 PM
>>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>>> Subject: LF: If anyones about , MT63  x 500 Hz and Olivia 500 x 8
>>> running now 1935 hrs
>>>
>>>>
>>>> As a follow on to some tests  with Gary  , with Olivia  500 x 8 and the
>>>> original MT63 system
>>>>
>>>> Running  two  data streams now at about 10  watts per mode , carrier
>>>> frequencies are :-
>>>>
>>>> mt63   501.5 to  502 Khz
>>>>
>>>> olivia 500x8  503 Khz +/-  250 Hz
>>>>
>>>> The book says mt63 should not print as well as olivia .....
>>>>
>>>> tnx - G ..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Hello Victor , Joe ,
Good "VO" last night on 184509.3 ! (see on capture)
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strange: Jim (BMU) is reporting on the odd minute at wsprnet.org

Rik

Quoting Rik Strobbe <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>:

> first traces at 2210Z, first decode at 2230Z
>
> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
>
> Quoting Chris McCarthy <chris.decibel@googlemail.com>:
>
>> Jay,
>> First decode tonight 2206Z -28dB,
>> Bad QRN tonight .
>> Will keep uploading spots throughout the night to web.
>>
>> Chris, G3XVL  JO02NB (Ipswich, Suffolk)
>>
>>
>>
>> 2009/2/1 John P-G <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk>
>>
>>> On Sun, 1 Feb 2009 15:30:29 -0500
>>> <jrusgrove@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Confirming start of WSPR transmission 2030Z on 507.000 dial frequency.
>>>>
>>>> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>>>>
>>> Jay, LF,
>>>
>>> First decode at 21:48, aafter a few periods of weakly visible signs on
>>> the waterfall.
>>>
>>> 21:48 -28dB
>>>
>>> Hope you can keep the transmission going right through the UK sunrise
>>> period - say to 10:00 UTC.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> John
>>> GM4SLV
>>>
>>>
>>
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Dear Group,

The antenna is back up and the TX is on 184.5093 kHz QRSS75.
Alan G3NYK is predicting declining conditions in a day or two, but
hopfully some will copy the sigs before then.

73 thanks and good luck
Joe VO1NA



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Hello LF,
Capture last night in 1.25z.
Argo in qrss3.

73
Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV

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Gus

>From short listening period last night:

090202 0206   1 -32  1.3   0.504499  SM6BHZ JO57 30 
090202 0210   3 -28  1.3   0.504499  SM6BHZ JO57 30 

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2




----- Original Message ----- 
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> Rik,
> 
> thank's report !
> 
> I did some test here, dial is now 503,0 kHz
> 
> Gus
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Rik Strobbe" <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:00 PM
> Subject: Re: LF: Re: SM6BHZ WSPR
> 
> 
> Gus,
> 
> strong signal but I read it at 504.5kHz, so 503.0 dial
> Despite it is S7 here on the meter I only get SNT between -6 and +4dB
> 
> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
> 
> Quoting Gus <begu@algonet.se>:
> 
>> MessageHi LF,Peter,Dave and Lee.
>>
>> Thank's for reports !
>>
>> Transmitter run also this evening, WSPR mode dial 503,2 USB 1W ERP.
>>
>> 73 de Gus SM6BHZ
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>   ----- Original Message -----
>>   From: Lee Hudson
>>   To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>>   Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 4:38 AM
>>   Subject: LF: SM6BHZ WSPR
>>
>>
>>   Hi Gus,
>>
>>   WSPR Log received here.
>>   Available on WSPRnet too.
>>
>>   73,
>>   Lee M0LMH IO93gx.
>>
>>   0026 -13  0.8   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>   0028  -8  0.9   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>   0030  -5  1.7   0.504486  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>   0032  -2  1.4   0.504498  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>   0034  -2  1.4   0.504498  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>   0036  -3  1.5   0.504498  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>   0038  -4  1.6   0.504498  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>   0040  -3  2.0   0.504498  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>   0042  -1  1.7   0.504498  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>   0044  -2  1.8   0.504498  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>   0046  -4  1.9   0.504498  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>   0048  -5  1.8   0.504498  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>   0050  -8  2.2   0.504498  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>   0052  -1  2.2   0.504498  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>   0054   2  2.1   0.504498  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>   0056   1  2.0   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>   0058  -3  2.0   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>   0100  -1  2.1   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>   0102   0  2.3   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>   0104  -2  2.5   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>   0106  -1  2.5   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>   0108   0  2.4   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>   0110  -3  2.2   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>   0112 -10  2.6   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>   0114 -17  2.3   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>   0116 -15  2.6   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>   0118 -10  2.8   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>   0120  -5  2.5   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>   0122  -4  2.8   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>   0124  -1  2.6   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>   0126   0  2.7   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>   0128  -4  2.7   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>   0130  -3  2.6   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
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>>   0144  -4  3.0   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
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>>   0216  -3  3.2   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
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>>   0224  -5  4.1   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>   0226  -5  4.3   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>   0228  -3  4.4   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>   0230  -4  4.2   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
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LF,

G4WGT closed down 0010utc.

Gary.

-----Original Message-----
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Gary,

solid copy, -13dB SNR here with little QSB
G4JNT is -5 / +5dB SNR, remarkable more QSB.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

Quoting Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>:

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>
>
>
> Running WSPR beacon tonight for a while.
>
>
>
> Frequency 503.915KHz - 2 mW ERP (3dBm)
>
>
>
> 73,
>
>
>
> Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.
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Gary

The program keeps running okay here.

A couple other points though. Unlike Multipsk one has to specify the lower edge of the bandpass - 
not the middle. This is 120 Hz below the center. In other words if 800 Hz is your received audio 
center frequency set the frequency to 680. Maybe there is a way to set it to the center...if so I 
havn't found it.

The bigger problem is with other applications running at the same time. Just opened an internet 
browser and copy went to garbage. MultiPSK kept decoding properly.

Jay


----- Original Message ----- 
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> Jay, LF,
>
> I also downloaded Stream & it runs for about 30 seconds & freezes.
>
> 73 - Gary - G4WGT.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of
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>
> Rik and group
>
> Confirming start at 2130Z.
>
> Downloaded Stream earlier and was unable to get it to work. MultiPSK works
> fine. May very well be
> cockpit error. Will  look into it.
>
> Jay
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Rik Strobbe" <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
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>
>> Jay,
>>
>> It just downloaded / installed stream (IZ8BLY).
>> RX / PC is on 508.5 overnight
>>
>> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
>>
>> Quoting jrusgrove@comcast.net:
>>
>>> WE2XGR/2 will be transmitting in MFSK8 mode on 508.5 kHz from 2130Z -
>>> 0000Z tonight. Reports are appreciated.
>>>
>>> When using MultiPSK as the decoder be advised that the program has been
>>> known to occasionally go on 'walkabout' after loss of signal. Stopping
>>> and restarting the decoder seems to solve the problem.
>>>
>>> Jay  W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>>
>>
>>
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Hi Warren,lf,
capture XGJ
Henny cpm
73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
xgj 27-02.jpg

Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld.

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Warren,lf,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>capture XGJ</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>73s</FONT></DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het volgende 
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hi Henny , Joe , LF
Just a small trace last night
73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

henny van elst a =E9crit :
> Hi Lf
> nil for Joe
> Henny cpm
> 73s
>
>  =20

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Thanks Mike!  At 76, I now feel very much relieved, Stan got me sort of worr=
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Henrique - CT1HX

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Mike-WE0H=20
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  Hi Stan,

  You might have another 20 years to go. 80 isn't an old fart yet...hi hi...

  Someone will have to post the details on how to subscribe & unsubscribe fr=
om this email reflector. I can't find the original message. It is something=20=
you have to do from your email address.

  Mike
  WE0H



  Stan wrote:=20
       Would you please close my  connection blacksheep. org.

      At  80  years I am finding that I am a  bit out of place..

       Thank you    Stan Andrews    ZL4MB

73
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks Mike!&nbsp; At 76, I now feel very m=
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Is this for an on-board sound card, and if not, what type of bus is it on..? 
73...Jordan....


----- Original Message ----- 
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>
> wspr and the over clocked sound card
>
> Was there a resolve to the  problem of the  short wspr  tx produced by a 
> soundcard that was running  slightly  faster than it  should
>
> 1.5 seconds short .....  about 1 %
>
> , resulting in no decodes for strong signals .. presumably by providing 
> too many sync's
>
> There is no way of changing the  sample  rate of the  card .. there is a 
> option in the  driver . but  as soon as wspr  runs . the  card reverts to 
> the  normal 44 khz setting
>
> No problems with any of the  other  systems as the  card can be calibrated 
> (though not  needed)
>
> any  fixes or ideas ??
>
> tnx
>
> Graham ..
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 



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Hi, Jay, LF,

This was on the screen when I got up here just now, along with a disapearing
trace on spectrum lab. The strongest bit of the trace was about 23:45, but
the decode might have been anytime in the last hour. I'd left it running
from about 10:00 on squelch setting 1.

TOCT FN59IS ATIMO9SK
IC31...Z4 9B 2 PURLINGT9EECT FN3IS TESTING PKUEC31...
WE=4GR/2 BURLINGTON COFN31IS. SISOG PSKFEC31.Z0
WE6XGR2 P82TE2@C31T : T
E2,53RA M 

I'll leave it running to see if anything else appears.... Don't know if you
want to maybe leave it running a bit longer than 01:00, but I'll check back
in the morning.

73 de Mike G7AQA.

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Subject: LF: WE2XGR/2 in PSKFEC31

WE2XGR/2 will be transmitting in PSKFEC31 mode tonight on 508.5 kHz starting
2130Z and will continue until at least 0100Z and perhaps beyond.

PSKFEC31 (PSK31 with forward error correction) can be decoded with the
colorful program MultiPSK - available at http://www.f6cte.free.fr/ . 
Sunglasses are recommended for the first time user. As far as I know there
are no other programs that can decode this mode. If anyone has info to the
contrary please advise.

Some background info on PSKFEC31 and other digital modes as well as tests
run by W1TAG and myself can be found at http://www.w1tag.com/600M_Modes.htm
.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2 




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Gary,

thanks for the info.
Both 502 and 503 are audible here.
I am not sure I can handle 2 instances of multipsk today, my eyes =20
still need to adapt to the colorfull display  and I am overwhelmed by =20
all the options ;-)
I will try to get the MFSK16 signal, that should be the most robust.

But as my out-of-bed time is 05:00UTC I will close down at 22:15UT

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

Quoting Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>:

> Rik,
>
> Open two instances of Multipsk, set the receiver to 501KHz USB.
>
> On one Multipsk select MFSK16 & click the cursor at 1000 on the waterfall=20=
&
> on the other Multipsk select Olivia then the Olivia mode to 8x500, button
> just over the waterfall then click the cursor on 2000.
>
> You should now be up & running both modes.
>
> 73
>
> Gary - G4WGT.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Rik Strobbe
> Sent: 04 February 2009 21:32
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: Re: LF: Olivia 500 x 8 MFSK16 NOW RUNNING
>
> Graham,
>
> I just installed multipsk.
> I believe it is the most chaotic programme I have ever seen.
>
> Right now 21:28UTC I hear alternating signals on 502 and 503.
>
> As I am not in the mood of reading the multipsk manual today could you
> just tell me what mode is running where and what dial frequency / mode
> (USB or LSB) I should set the RX to?
>
> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
>
> Quoting Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>:
>
>> Modes changed
>>
>> MT63   STOPPED
>>
>> MFSK16 ,  Centre freq   1000 Hz audio
>>
>> Approx  15 watts peak per stream
>>
>> Thanks for reports .. will run this config  an hour or so
>>
>> G ..
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 7:39 PM
>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Subject: LF: If anyones about , MT63  x 500 Hz and Olivia 500 x 8
>> running now 1935 hrs
>>
>>>
>>> As a follow on to some tests  with Gary  , with Olivia  500 x 8 and the
>>> original MT63 system
>>>
>>> Running  two  data streams now at about 10  watts per mode , carrier
>>> frequencies are :-
>>>
>>> mt63   501.5 to  502 Khz
>>>
>>> olivia 500x8  503 Khz +/-  250 Hz
>>>
>>> The book says mt63 should not print as well as olivia .....
>>>
>>> tnx - G ..
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Thanks Henny!
-- 
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
                WE2XEB/2
                WE2XGR/1

2009/2/27 henny van elst <cpm@planet.nl>:
> Hi Warren,lf,
> capture XGJ
> Henny cpm
> 73s
> Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden
> verzonden:
> xgj 27-02.jpg
>
> Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen
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> A likely "heater" candidate
> would be Zehlendorf 177 kHz, which has been reported in DRM mode after midnight
> - could someone perhaps confirm the times of digital operation?
> 

177kHz DRM-Mode from 2:00 - 5:00 local time, which means of course 1:00-4:00 UT at "wintertime" .

73
Dennis
DL6NVC
Berlin, 29km from Zehlendorf TX Tower 













> Another "mystery" noise band sometimes appears at night, about 200 Hz wide
> centered on 137.07 kHz, and of easterly origin (red):
> http://www.alice-dsl.net/df6nm/test0902210100.png
> In this capture, there is also a weaker replica of this band centered on
> 137.19 (north, violet). This combination would suggest Luxembourg effect on
> both HGA22 (east) and DCF39 (north), caused by a common heater carrying
> 1.64 kHz AM modulation. However I have no clue to what the source is, and why
> it would carry such an unusual modulation spectrum.
> 
> Kind regards,
> Markus, DF6NM

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I consider the 65' vertical portion as the net effective radiator...

The two nearly horizontal wires are merely matching wires and radiation from 
them are near straight up and down, just my mental picture...

Sure is quiet and only takes one vacuum variable to tune...
No other matching or lossy loading...

Dave






>> ref: http://www.radiocom.net/600M/LOOP109.jpg
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Hello Nicolas,

thanks for the reception report. 675 km QRB, not bad for the low power I hav=
e, I am only using an 8 m long "long"-wire antenna. This surely is a challen=
ge. But it looks as if the frequency is reasonable clear at your QTH (beside=
s thundersorms).

Vy 73

Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO

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  Hello Geri,weak signals each night here with a deep QSB,No luck of the dis=
tant thunderstorms come to perturb me the reception.


  F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP

  RX : Icom IC7400
  Ant: Wellbrook LFL 1010

  http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/


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good signal but a lot of qrm on this site,

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Wolf & group

Nice catch on the date error. I had used the windoz clock calendar to look up a date in 
January...and forgot to move it back to February.

All stations so far reporting poorer condx than last night with later start times.

Will let beacon run until 1030Z - my normal O dark 30 out of sack time.

Good luck to all.

Jay


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From: "Wolfgang Büscher" <dl4yhf@freenet.de>
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> Happy new year Jay ... your email was timestamped January(!) 1st, 2009, so I only found it by 
> accident in the sorted list of recent mails.
>
> > From: <jrusgrove@....>
> > To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> > References: <006801....@JimPC>
> > Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 15:58:05 -0500    << ?
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>
> Joking aside, I will let WSPR run overnight. As usual, the QRM is terrible here at the moment. Not 
> the faintest trace on the spectrogram yet.
>
> 73,
>   Wolf .
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> 



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Glad you asked, Andy...  Hope this one makes it past the spam filter...

Back in the commercial AM transmitter biz days I buried miles of extra 
copper in to poor conductivity soil and gained little or nothing.
Then came Bill Ashloop who proved that a small transmit loop can do quite 
well.
http://www.wireless.org.uk/loopy.htm
http://www.w1tag.com/XESANT.htm

So I surveryed the back yard which sits on very poor conductivity soil and 
therefore makes a loop appear to me more in free space and here are the 
advantages that I have found to date:

No high voltage wire ends to start tree fires. No wasted power going into 
and out of the ground...

Much less wire used in a LOOP transmit antenna. This #4 stranded HV wire 
rests inside of 100' sections of garden hose and is hoisted into trees with 
help of compound bow and pull line.

No top loading, no radials, much less noise on RX, E-Z to tune and weather 
does not affect the tuning much such as from rain or snow, and it acts like 
a good vertical regardless of being much simpler.

As for the CONS, well I just don't think of any...  Somebody??

It works very well from 600M to 6M and is the only real antenna that I still 
have.

Various feeds as noted below will let you tune it down to SAQ@17kc which I 
always hear and also makes for superb DX on 6M in 'some directions'.

ref: http://www.radiocom.net/600M/LOOP109.jpg

Wish I had a El-Nec printout but can't seem to fit this version in to it.

QSL SURE VIA E-MAIL
090226 0406   1 -29  0.0   0.503869  G4JNT IO90 23
090226 0610   3 -29  0.0   0.503869  G4JNT IO90 23

Have a quiet night and TNX from Dave @ WD2XSH/17








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From: "Andy Talbot" <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 11:16 AM
Subject: LF: LF Antennas - back to basics


> Having now been encouraged by being decoded now by at least two US
> stations,  was wondering how much improvement in efficiency I could
> scrape out of my existing antenna.  It is a Marconi Tee, the vertical
> element consisting of three wires from the base tapering to 200mm
> spacing at the top.  There it is attached to the centre of a a
> capacity hat 15m long and 200mm wide made of three parallel wires.
>
> The ground system is a bit haphazard in my 7m wide by 12m long garden,
> with about 4 wires meeting at the base of the antenna meandering
> around the garden, starting off in different directions from teh base.
> They are all connected to substantial ground rods in heavy clay  at
> their far points, a with a few randomly spaced rods in between (I used
> several 1m lengths of 15mm water pipe as well as proper rods - there
> is probably about 9 or 10 rods in total, mostly 1 - 2m in length -
> can't remember that far back!   Some of the earth conductors were also
> bonded to the house wiring by a couple of substantial straps, and even
> inside the house I added more straps at strategic places.   I also
> ensured there was a good fat cable run directly under as much of the
> capacity hat as possible.   As a test, disconnecting the PME earthing
> bond and measuring the DC resistance between my total set of
> connections and the incoming conductor ground/neutral point, the value
> was a pretty consistent 3 ohms.  Haven't done this test for a few
> years, but at the last check it was still of this order.
>
> Back in the 73kHz days a number of (mostly big!) stations were
> surprised my signal was as strong as it was for probably the smallest
> antenna in use then; G3LDO put it down to the fact I had concentrated
> plenty of earthing wire to run directly under the top-hat.
>
> But, its all 14 years old,  still OK, but hopefully there's a wealth
> of experience now, and I wonder if there are obvious improvements that
> could be made:
>
> Firstly, bearing in mind there is no scope whatsoever to raise one end
> of the capacity hat which is defined by the apex of the house roof,
> and the other end would also need some major sugery to raise its heigh
> substantially, that only leaves the middle, ie the height of the
> actual radiator.    It wouldn't be too difficult to raise this to 10m
> or even more with a fibreglass pole, but will I be throwing away all
> the advantage by having the top-hat drooping down to 7m?
>
> Secondly, pictures of other peoples antennas aften show a substantial
> grounding plate immediately under and around the antenna base.  Just
> how far out is is worth going with a really substantial base.   I
> could cut more conductors into the ground; while the ground is still
> is still soggy in March may be a good time to do this.
>
> Any ideas please ...?
>
>
> Andy  G4JNT
> www.g4jnt.com
> 



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f4dtl@aol.com wrote:
> Hello friends,
> 
> Not bad reception of SAQ transmission this morning in JN08WN (my job)
> Not QSB and not QRN,thanx to Lars and the Grimeton's team.
> 
> *F4DTL /P Nicolas*

There has been an SAQ transmission this morning ? I haven't seen it advertised anywhere...
May be I didn't pay enough attention...

73  Alberto  I2PHD




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Not very good propagations this morning here. Band was noisy.

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Hi Lf,
capture rn3agc
hENNY CPM
73S

Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
rn3agc 20-02.jpg

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Lf,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>capture rn3agc</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>hENNY CPM</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>73S</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het 
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<font face="Arial">Heck ya!!! Lots of RF will burn off the bad cells
that make a man age...hi hi...<br>
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Mike<br>
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Henrique&nbsp; wrote:
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  <div><font face="Arial" size="2">Thanks Mike!&nbsp; At 76, I now feel very
much relieved, Stan got me sort of worried...</font></div>
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    <font face="Arial">Hi Stan,<br>
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You might have another 20 years to go. 80 isn't an old fart yet...hi
hi...<br>
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Someone will have to post the details on how to subscribe &amp;
unsubscribe from this email reflector. I can't find the original
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Mike<br>
WE0H<br>
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Stan wrote:
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      <pre wrap="">       Would you please close my  connection blacksheep. org.

      At  80  years I am finding that I am a  bit out of place..

       Thank you    Stan Andrews    ZL4MB

73
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Dave,

l believe that G3XIZ was transmitting QRSS30 on that frequency, saw 
him on Gary's grabber.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

BTW: inter-Europe condx seemed very good yesterday:
DI & OK beacons were booming as was SK6RUD.
Also good copy of GI4DPE beacon (peaking 579)
Strong (599+) daytime copy of G3KEV, obviously enjoying the new 10W 
ERP privileges


At 03:07 20/02/2009, you wrote:
>UNID QRSS on 503.950 now, too much QRN
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>TNX
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Hello Jay, nice conditions this night,
 
 
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Hi Geri & LF!
Whats a schedule of DI2BO? 24h on the air?

* "Holger 'Geri', DK8KW" <geri@dk8kw.de> [Mon, 16 Feb 2009 18:20:28 
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> Hi folks,
>
> DI2BO's experimental license is valid for two frequencise, 440 kHz and
> 505.1 kHz (both +/- 100 Hz). Currently the beacon is transmitting on
> 440.015 kHz in QRSS3 and ID in CW. ERP is in the 50 mW range.
>
> Status of the beacon can be seen at www.qru.de/di2bo. Reports are
> welcome (as usual).
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> Vy 73
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Hello Warren, LF!
FB propagation, as you can see on the picture.

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

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Pozvi sv=E9 p=F8=E1tele z Facebooku a Hotmailu do Messengeru!
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Hello Marco and group,

I will be QRV on sunday morning from the club station, and look for your 
(and any other) signal on 136....137 kHz.

Any activity appreciated; even stations worked 10 times before on LF,  
please don't hesitate to call in.

CUL,
  Wolf DL4YHF / DK4U on LF .


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Traces of XGJ,also strong signals from AGC and WPF,

73

Victor

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Has everybody had their 500kHz NoV extensions yet, or am I the only
one not to receive it ?
Until 23:59:59 2009/02/28 I hope to have the WSPR beacon running each
evening and overnight on 503.870kHz 23dBm ERP.   After that date, if
nothing received it may QSY to topband as that's a band I've never
used before.

Andy  G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com


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As a follow on to some tests  with Gary  , with Olivia  500 x 8 and the 
original MT63 system

Running  two  data streams now at about 10  watts per mode , carrier 
frequencies are :-

mt63   501.5 to  502 Khz

olivia 500x8  503 Khz +/-  250 Hz

The book says mt63 should not print as well as olivia .....

tnx - G ..

 




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Fldig  Farq beacon  bpsk125  503 Khz 

running till  2400 , psl try connect

tnx - G ..  



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I was brought up in Geordie-land. I went to college in Manchester and had ar=
guments about how Manchester was in the South of England !! I still think I'=
m right.......
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Brian (G3YKB)

--- On Tue, 24/2/09, John RABSON <john.rabson@wanadoo.fr> wrote:

North-east?  My father-in-law (a Geordie) always insisted that Yorkshire was
part of the Midlands.




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<table cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" border=3D"0" ><tr><td valign=3D"t=
op" style=3D"font: inherit;"><DIV>I was brought up in Geordie-land. I went t=
o college in Manchester and had arguments about how Manchester was in the So=
uth of England !! I still think I'm right.......</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Brian (G3YKB)</DIV>
<DIV><BR>--- On <B>Tue, 24/2/09, John RABSON <I>&lt;john.rabson@wanadoo.fr&g=
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6,16,255) 2px solid"><PRE>North-east?  My father-in-law (a Geordie) always i=
nsisted that Yorkshire was
part of the Midlands.

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Hi Warren and All,
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Henny cpm
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On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 22:20:55 -0000
"Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

> John,
> 
> Is the entry on the uk500khz grabbers page  out of date ??
> 
> G ..
>

I don't run the grabber 24/7 anymore, but set it up as/when - just
uploading a jpg every 5 minutes.

For completeness I've edited the "grabber page" HTML to display the
correct jpg image

The URL for the image is

http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/gm4slv/gm4slv_500.jpg

the URL for the HTML page is (this will allow automatic 5-minute
refresh)

http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/gm4slv/grabber.htm


Unfortunately the IC-R75 doesn't have the nice wide IF filtering of the
AR7030 which used to allow me to show from 499.8 to 505.3.

Currently the "default" is to show 500.9 - 502.3 which covers Finbar,
Mike GW4HXO and Rog GW3UEP when they have their CW beacons running -
and also shows the odd QSO too.

During any specific tests the grabber will refelect what I'm tuned
to...

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John
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Hello Marco im beaconing now 137776 QRSS60 for tests with russians  grabbers
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F4DTL  Nicolas JN18FP
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=20

=20
Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 01/02/2009 00:05:15 Paris, Madrid, =20
marco.scholz@citi.com a =E9crit :

Merci  Nicolas.

Many thanks for your help. Yes i will send Jeff a QSL card. =20
You see i managed now 3 QSO's on 137KHz in QRSS3 and i'm very happy about =20
this. Now i must optimize my setup. There is still a lot to do.

Good  night and thanks  again
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Jay,

I will leave the RX / computer running overnight with squelch set to 1.
I will report tomorrow.

73, Rik

Quoting jrusgrove@comcast.net:

> Rik & group
>
> Confirming start of PSKFEC31 at 2130Z. Not too optimistic on this mode
> but we'll see. GL and thanks for listening / watching. Jay
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rik Strobbe"  =20
> <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
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>
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>> Jay,
>>
>> I am listening, will you give a confirmation when you take off ?
>>
>> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
>>
>> Quoting jrusgrove@comcast.net:
>>
>>> WE2XGR/2 will be transmitting in PSKFEC31 mode tonight on 508.5 kHz
>>> starting 2130Z and will continue until at least 0100Z and perhaps
>>> beyond.
>>>
>>> PSKFEC31 (PSK31 with forward error correction) can be decoded with the
>>> colorful program MultiPSK - available at http://www.f6cte.free.fr/ .
>>> Sunglasses are recommended for the first time user. As far as I know
>>> there are no other programs that can decode this mode. If anyone has
>>> info to the contrary please advise.
>>>
>>> Some background info on PSKFEC31 and other digital modes as well as
>>> tests run by W1TAG and myself can be found at
>>> http://www.w1tag.com/600M_Modes.htm .
>>>
>>> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>>
>>
>>
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Hello Joe , LF ,

I copy traces last night off VO1NA
see capture .

73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj




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Mark,



I think 'we are looking at situation parallel with the  argument of using 
video enhancement  as evidence in the  judicial system , in that the 
adjacent  pixel decisions do  not  always result in a correct recovery of 
the  original data .. and  over lay filters / masks can be 'biased' I assume 
this is the  case as the  recovered call signs are in a recognisable format 
and not  simply  random data .. ?


> I am coming to the conclusion that the single reported signal level is
> barely adequate on 500KHz, an pretty useless when the QSB is fast.. what
> WSPR software needs for studying propagation is perhaps 10 or 20  sig 
> level
> measurements per period,

Funny  you  should  mention that , this  page was started Nov 2007 , with 
the same in mind !

http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk500khz/web/the-big-beacon-project

G...

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From: "Mark" <markhughes1@blueyonder.co.uk>
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Subject: LF: Re: WSPR Spots

>
> Hi all,
> The spurious calls generated here are as a result of a wideband birdie 
> that
> wanders through the 500KHz band, probably a switchmode PSU
> Not all the bad decodes get uploaded, so there would appear to be some
> filtering of what is uploaded
> What the software needs is a checkbox after each decode, so that the user
> can mark bad messages, the system could them automatically remove those 
> from
> the database
>
> I have also been analysing the spots by graphing signal strength, and
> comparing for example my reception of SM5BHZ with that of other stations.
> (for anyone interested I have used an Excel macro to download specified
> spots from the web database, and put them in a formal easy to use with the
> graph wizard)
>
> I am coming to the conclusion that the single reported signal level is
> barely adequate on 500KHz, an pretty useless when the QSB is fast.. what
> WSPR software needs for studying propagation is perhaps 10 or 20  sig 
> level
> measurements per period, just uploaded to the database for future study. 
> I
> have suggested this to Joe, but I think he has higher priorities and 
> no-one
> else has requested anything similar
>
> Regards
> Mark GM4ISM
> www.dc2light.co.uk
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Andy Talbot" <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 10:11 PM
> Subject: LF: WSPR Spots
>
>
>> According to the WSPR Spot database, there is some "interesting" DX
>> being received chez GM4ISM.
>> Is there some carrier or coherent  QRM present to generate these false
>> hits?
>>
>> Just got a WSPR generating routine running on a 16F628 PIC with AD9852
>> DDS combination.
>> At the moment it only operates at 100% duty cycle, but I'm Looking at
>> PN sequences for randomised transmission slots with 20/25/33% Duty
>> cycle operation.
>>
>> Andy  G4JNT
>> www.g4jnt.com
>>
>>
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Hi, Jay, LF,

Nothing decoded here. Might well have been finger trouble on my part, but
left MultiPSK running overnight and it seemed to behave itself.

Mike G7AQA.

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Subject: LF: WE2XGR/2 in MFSK8

WE2XGR/2 will be transmitting in MFSK8 mode on 508.5 kHz from 2130Z - 0000Z
tonight. Reports are appreciated.

When using MultiPSK as the decoder be advised that the program has been
known to occasionally go on 'walkabout' after loss of signal. Stopping and
restarting the decoder seems to solve the problem.

Jay  W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2 




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Thanks Markus.

I'm at the club station now, but very noisy, and the wind getting stronger b=
y the minute.
Time to return home soon, before the snow arrives.

73,
  Wolf (with frozen fingers on the key, still.... )

----- original Nachricht --------

Betreff: LF: Re: Activity on 136.6 kHz / sunday morning
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> yes it's OE5PGL in CW, currently calling CQ on 136.595.
>  73 + GL de Markus, DF6NM




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Hi all,
Not withstanding the fickle nature of propagation, my WSPR / Grabber receive 
antenna is not the most efficient, and does suffer from an elevated noise 
floor compared to my main station antenna.
Signals are typically 6dB stronger on the inverted L, though I have not 
spent any great effort quantifying the differences.
One of the true benefits of WSPR is measurement of signal level variations 
at one location, but to get  meaningful data on relative strength between 
stations would take many receive stations with identical equipment.
That is of course eminently possible, a cheap PC and a standard ferrite rod 
active receive system + simple SDR would enable a major propagation study.
Most amateurs have a PC and internet, if a cheap design were published for a 
WSPR monitor station, we could potentially get many listening stations QRV 
and gather a lot of interesting data. not many transmitters need be on, so 
no problem for non NOV holders.
With other 'front ends' any band could be monitored.

How cheap can we make such a system, is anyone interested?
Mark GM4ISM




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Andy Talbot" <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 9:20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: More WSPRing


> That's very interesting -  I appear to be 10 - 15dB better S/N with
> you Johan (-5db S/N) at 1200km, than with GM4ISM (-20dB S/N) at 577km.
>
> Background noise levels ?
> Sea path ?
>
> Andy  G4JNT
> www.g4jnt.com
>
>
>
> 2009/2/23 Johan H. Bodin <jh.bodin@telia.com>:
>> Solid copy in JO67MR Andy, including the CW ID!
>>
>>
>> 73
>> Johan SM6LKM
>>
>> Andy Talbot wrote:
>>> 503.870 +23dBm ERP running now,  34.375% duty cycle ...
>>>
>>> Andy  G4JNT
>>> www.g4jnt.com
>>
>>
>
>


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Lubos,
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2009/2/16 Lubos OK2BVG <bvgbob@hotmail.com>:
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> I saw XGJ signal this night. The weather : -3=B0C and it=B4s snowing
>
> Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS
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Rik,

Amazing .. looks like mfsk16 works too well hihi !

the arq mode seems a little sticky .. but when working seems to  be fine

tnx for the report

G ..


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From: "Rik Strobbe" <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
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Subject: Re: LF: Fldig Farq  mfsk16  beacon  503 Khz  pls try connect ?

>
> Graham,
>
> that's what I got here:
>
> ARQ:EMAIL::
> ARQ:SIZE::147
> ARQ::STX
> //FLARQ COMPOSER
> Date: 02/05/09 21:19:30
> To: m0bmu
> From:
> Subje9337=01
> =0100!: t=D8l test
>
> Hi Jim ..l yes the email has arrived all 100 %
>
> tnx- G
>
> ARQ::ETX
>
> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
>
>
> Quoting Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>:
>
>>
>> Follow on from last night Running Fldig in 'farq'  mode at 503 Khz
>> centre frequency Beacon  set every 60  seconds Pls try connect and
>> leave a message mycal set to  G0NBD
>>
>>
>>
>> Set USB  501 Khz Audio set 2000 Hz Mode mfsk 16 Farq running , Software
>> from :-
>>
>> http://www.w1hkj.com/Fldigi.html
>
>
>
> Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm
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Andy,

the CW ID is 559 here, WSPR is no challenge ;-)

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

Quoting Andy Talbot <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>:

> WSPR beacon now running
> 503.870kHz centre, SSB Dial freq 502.4kHz >> 1470Hz
> 33% duty cycle (32 frame repeat).
>
> Andy =A0G4JNT
> www.g4jnt.com
>
>



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My last message didn't get through... does this work?
Was trying to help a colleague who was having trouble subscribing to this
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Hi Dave, LF,

The frequency you refer to is usually occupied by Chris G3XIZ, I have looked
at my grabber saves & the beacon was running from 2253utc last night to
0838utc this morning.

Finbar GI4DPE normally uses 501.057KHz for his beacon activities.

I have attached part of the saved image showing 503.950KHz.

Grabbers at :-

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber1.html

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html

Cheers,

Gary - G4WGT.



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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of dave.riley3
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Subject: LF: 503.950

Saw what looked like a CW beacon separated by long ( 8 second dash? ) in 
between on 503.950 but it was too weak to make aural ID, however it looked 
like Finbar's CW beacon signature.

This was last night ( Saturday ).

Local QRN was up about 3-4 db masking other sigs as well...


TNX

Dave @ WD2XSH/17



 


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According to the WSPR Spot database, there is some "interesting" DX
being received chez GM4ISM.
Is there some carrier or coherent  QRM present to generate these false hits?

Just got a WSPR generating routine running on a 16F628 PIC with AD9852
DDS combination.
At the moment it only operates at 100% duty cycle, but I'm Looking at
PN sequences for randomised transmission slots with 20/25/33% Duty
cycle operation.

Andy  G4JNT
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First decode of the evening here.  14 minutes after the first one yesterday.
Conditions are much noiser than they were then.   Very impulsive
broadband noise covering tens of kHz  with durations of 10s to 100s of
ms

2009-02-01 22:12   WE2XGR   0.508530   -28   0   FN31   +57   501.187
 G4JNT   IO90iv   5399   3355

Andy  G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com



2009/2/1 Rik Strobbe <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>:
> Jay,
>
> nil here at 2145Z, not even traces.
> Last night I had traces starting 2120Z and first copy at 2144Z.
> QRN is very bad for this time of the year.
> I will leave the RX on overnight with WSPR running, so eventual copies will
> be uploaded.
>
> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
>
> Quoting jrusgrove@comcast.net:
>
>> Confirming start of WSPR transmission 2030Z on 507.000 dial frequency.
>>
>> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
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Hello Henny , Joe , LF

Nil also for VO1NA

73 Jean-Pierre f1afj

henny van elst a =E9crit :
> Hi All,
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> Henny pa3cpm
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Laurence,

it is at http://www.qsl.net/on7yd/zip/ArgoUpload112.zip
It works here
I can send it (direct) attached to an email (222kB).

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

At 09:24 9/02/2009, you wrote:
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>Note sure if the Chinese have blocked it but=20
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>Anyone got a good link?
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>With thanks
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Scott:
Its precisely that an LFSR does not give what is needed that made me
start thinking along these lines.   For one thing, LFSRs are only
random if considered over the whole repeat length, viz  2 ^ N - 1 bit
for a maximal length sequence.   They will have one single run of
exactly N ones, and N-1 zeroes, and a predicatable numbers of runs of
fewer successive equal bits.  It is a well established annoyance with
these that short register lengths cannot be used to generate
half-decent pseudo randomness

What I was idly speculating on was a straightforward way of generating
a semi-random sequence with deliberately limited continuous runs of
ones or zeroes.  By forcing this aspect, the sequence cannot possibly
be random. A ideal sequence would probably have very little
statistical randomness at all.  But it sems to have turned out to be
not at all straightforward.

Eg 33% duty cycle with no randomisation
      001001001001001001001001001001
A true PN sequence at 33% could be like
      010000111100100000001100101000
which has an excessively long sequence of ones for WSPR Tx purposes
A more optimised pattern might be
      001010100001010100100010001010
Apart from one bit, this one is actually a smaller pattern repeated.

Which all comes down to the idea that its easiest to just generate (by
inspection !) a set of precomputed tables - but that just feels like
cheating and I feel dissatisfied with it :-)

Andy
www.g4jnt.com



2009/2/21 Scott Tilley <sthed475@telus.net>:
> Hi Andy
>
> Try a 'Linear Feedback Shift Register', Google it...
>
> Very simple to implement in a MCU and can be scaled to any size you like.  I
> wrote some code to do this in PIC assembly years ago that was only a few
> lines long for a 256bit sequence...
>
> Best of all you can predict the outcome and choose a sequence that meets
> your needs given a unique seed word....
>
> Better yet it offers a means of identification over a long term integration
> :-)
>
> 73 Scott
> VE7TIL
>
>
> Andy Talbot wrote:
>>
>> ...but if any mathematicians,  number theorists or cryptographers
>> should be reading this...
>>
>> I've just got a WSPR generating routine running on a PIC / AD9852 /
>> GPS combination, but I'm looking for a half-decent way of generating a
>> pseudo random Tx/Rx sequence with defined duty cycle that does not
>> give the long(ish) consecutive runs of 0's or 1's that MUST ALWAYS
>> occasionally be seen in a truly random sequence.
>>
>> In other words, the sequence needs to be bandpass filtered.
>>
>> Before I cop-out and just use a pre-generated set of lookup tables,
>> take a look at   http://www.g4jnt.com/WSPR_PN_Sequence.pdf
>> for a fuller description of the mind-bender
>>
>>
>> Andy  G4JNT
>> www.g4jnt.com
>>
>>
>>
>
>


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Hello Joe,

Thank you to keep us informed , courage to repair aerial !
The storm prevailed here 3 weeks ago , the winds have
reach the 200 k/h in the south of France . I did not have a
damage at the station .

73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

jcraig@mun.ca a =E9crit :
>
> Thank-you Henny and others who were monitoring.
> Unfortunately, as a result of another vile altercation
> with Mother Nature (100 k winds/nasty snow storm) the
> LF aerial is in a bad way!
>
> Will report on progress as it is repaired.
>
> 73 and thanks
> Joe VO1NA
>
> On Thu, 19 Feb 2009, henny van elst wrote:
>
>> Hi Joe and All,
>> nil in the screen
>> Henny cpm
>> 73s
>>
>
>
>

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Dear LF,

during parts of most nights, the Luxembourg crossmodulation shows a regular=20=
banding structure across a wide frequency range, quite unlike the typical pa=
tterns of AM music modulation:
http://www.alice-dsl.net/df6nm/test0902210320.png
The band spacing matches the subcarrier spectrum for "Mode A" DRM digital mo=
dulation (204 carriers spaced 41.66 Hz). A likely "heater" candidate would b=
e Zehlendorf 177 kHz, which has been reported in DRM mode after midnight - c=
ould someone perhaps confirm the times of digital operation?

Another "mystery" noise band sometimes appears at night, about 200 Hz wide c=
entered on 137.07 kHz, and of easterly origin (red):
http://www.alice-dsl.net/df6nm/test0902210100.png
In this capture, there is also a weaker replica of this band centered on 137=
.19 (north, violet). This combination would suggest Luxembourg effect on bot=
h HGA22 (east) and DCF39 (north), caused by a common heater carrying 1.64 kH=
z AM modulation. However I have no clue to what the source is, and why it wo=
uld carry such an unusual modulation spectrum.

Kind regards,
Markus, DF6NM

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dear LF,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>during parts of most nights, the Luxembourg=
=20
crossmodulation shows a regular banding structure across a wide frequency ra=
nge,=20
quite&nbsp;unlike the typical patterns of AM music modulation:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A   href=3D"http://www.alice-dsl.net/df6nm=
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FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The&nbsp;band spacing&nbsp;matches=20
the&nbsp;subcarrier spectrum for "Mode A" DRM digital modulation&nbsp;(204=20
carriers&nbsp;spaced 41.66 Hz). A likely "heater" candidate would be Zehlend=
orf=20
177 kHz, which has been reported in DRM mode&nbsp;after midnight - could som=
eone=20
perhaps confirm the times of digital operation?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Another "mystery" noise band&nbsp;sometimes=
 appears=20
at night, about 200 Hz wide centered on 137.07 kHz, and of easterly origin=20
(red):</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A   href=3D"http://www.alice-dsl.net/df6nm=
/test0902210100.png">http://www.alice-dsl.net/df6nm/test0902210100.png</A></=
FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>In this capture, there is also a weaker rep=
lica of=20
this&nbsp;band centered on 137.19 (north, violet). This combination would=20
suggest Luxembourg effect on&nbsp;both HGA22&nbsp;(east) and DCF39 (north),=20
caused by a common heater carrying 1.64 kHz AM modulation. However I have no=
=20
clue to&nbsp;what the source is, and&nbsp;why it&nbsp;would&nbsp;carry&nbsp;=
such=20
an unusual&nbsp;modulation spectrum.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Kind=20
regards,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Markus, DF6NM</FONT></DIV>
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G, LF,

Now getting 100% copy of the MFSK16, but only snatches of any
recognisable characters fromteh Olivia!

J



On Wed, 4 Feb 2009 21:11:51 -0000
"Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

> Modes changed
> 
> MT63   STOPPED
> 
> MFSK16 ,  Centre freq   1000 Hz audio
> 
> Approx  15 watts peak per stream
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> Thanks for reports .. will run this config  an hour or so
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> G ..
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> Subject: LF: If anyones about , MT63  x 500 Hz and Olivia 500 x 8
> running now 1935 hrs
> 
> >
> > As a follow on to some tests  with Gary  , with Olivia  500 x 8 and
> > the original MT63 system
> >
> > Running  two  data streams now at about 10  watts per mode , carrier
> > frequencies are :-
> >
> > mt63   501.5 to  502 Khz
> >
> > olivia 500x8  503 Khz +/-  250 Hz
> >
> > The book says mt63 should not print as well as olivia .....
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> > tnx - G ..
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nice capture di2bo
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>nice capture di2bo</FONT></DIV>
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On Sat, 31 Jan 2009 23:40:59 -0000
"Mike Hawkshaw" <mike@spikey-mike.com> wrote:

> Jay, LF.
> 
> I never thought I'd be able to receive a signal on 500kHz from so far
> away; this is astonishing! 

Mike, LF et al,

Well done - I was amazed to see so many people reporting Jay's signals
on WSPRnet, and glad to see your success especially!

Jay-  this is too easy - I thought MF transatlantic propagation was a
difficult hit and miss affair, but most of us seem to be decoding every
period. There is some slow QSB tonight, but never deep enough here to
prevent decoding. Listening on headphones, with the RX in normal SSB
bandwidth, your sig resovling at approx 1.5kHz. I can  hear you
by ear most of the time. I've no doubt we could work CW at this S/N
ratio (assuming I could radiate a reciprocal ERP!)

Perhaps next time you need to do a QRP experiment - hi!


Cheers,

John
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Hi Warren,lf,

very good signal 5:40z

73

Victor

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Graham,

I just installed multipsk.
I believe it is the most chaotic programme I have ever seen.

Right now 21:28UTC I hear alternating signals on 502 and 503.

As I am not in the mood of reading the multipsk manual today could you =20
just tell me what mode is running where and what dial frequency / mode =20
(USB or LSB) I should set the RX to?

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

Quoting Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>:

> Modes changed
>
> MT63   STOPPED
>
> MFSK16 ,  Centre freq   1000 Hz audio
>
> Approx  15 watts peak per stream
>
> Thanks for reports .. will run this config  an hour or so
>
> G ..
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 7:39 PM
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Subject: LF: If anyones about , MT63  x 500 Hz and Olivia 500 x 8
> running now 1935 hrs
>
>>
>> As a follow on to some tests  with Gary  , with Olivia  500 x 8 and the
>> original MT63 system
>>
>> Running  two  data streams now at about 10  watts per mode , carrier
>> frequencies are :-
>>
>> mt63   501.5 to  502 Khz
>>
>> olivia 500x8  503 Khz +/-  250 Hz
>>
>> The book says mt63 should not print as well as olivia .....
>>
>> tnx - G ..
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>
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Ok Rik.

Thanks for having a go , but can try agen

tnx - G ..

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Subject: Re: LF: Olivia 500 x 8  MFSK16  NOW RUNNING

>
> Graham,
>
> despite good audible signals I did not manage to decode the MFSK16 signal.
> Most likely due to my lack of experience.
>
> I am now closing the station to get some sleep.
>
> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
>
> PS:
> I just noticed a very odd event on 500: a CW QSO (between GI4DPE, 549
> here, and G3GNR, not audible).
>
> Quoting Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>:
>
>> Ok Rik,
>>
>> Yes ... hihi
>>
>> Running
>>
>> USB Dial  freq - 501.000  Khz
>>
>> olivia  250 x 8  centre freq      2000  Hz audio    503 Khz  rf
>>
>> MFSK  16  centre freq  1000 Hz audio     502Khz rf
>>
>> Tnx - G ...
>>
>>
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Rik Strobbe" <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 9:32 PM
>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Subject: Re: LF: Olivia 500 x 8  MFSK16  NOW RUNNING
>>
>>>
>>> Graham,
>>>
>>> I just installed multipsk.
>>> I believe it is the most chaotic programme I have ever seen.
>>>
>>> Right now 21:28UTC I hear alternating signals on 502 and 503.
>>>
>>> As I am not in the mood of reading the multipsk manual today could you
>>> just tell me what mode is running where and what dial frequency / mode
>>> (USB or LSB) I should set the RX to?
>>>
>>> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
>>>
>>> Quoting Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>:
>>>
>>>> Modes changed
>>>>
>>>> MT63   STOPPED
>>>>
>>>> MFSK16 ,  Centre freq   1000 Hz audio
>>>>
>>>> Approx  15 watts peak per stream
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for reports .. will run this config  an hour or so
>>>>
>>>> G ..
>>>>
>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>> From: "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 7:39 PM
>>>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>>>> Subject: LF: If anyones about , MT63  x 500 Hz and Olivia 500 x 8
>>>> running now 1935 hrs
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> As a follow on to some tests  with Gary  , with Olivia  500 x 8 and 
>>>>> the
>>>>> original MT63 system
>>>>>
>>>>> Running  two  data streams now at about 10  watts per mode , carrier
>>>>> frequencies are :-
>>>>>
>>>>> mt63   501.5 to  502 Khz
>>>>>
>>>>> olivia 500x8  503 Khz +/-  250 Hz
>>>>>
>>>>> The book says mt63 should not print as well as olivia .....
>>>>>
>>>>> tnx - G ..
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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Hi Joe,Lf,
The complete call Joe,
Henny CPM
Best 73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Joe,Lf,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The complete call Joe,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Henny CPM</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Best 73s</FONT></DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het 
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Hi Jay, LFers,

Nice solid copy here, right from the get-go, using the
MultiPSK prog.  The tones are very clear coming from
the computer's speaker.  I'm also looking at the sigs
using Argo on my second box...reminds me of the perf
tape the old TTY machines churned out.  I'll send a
screen shot directly to you Jay.

73, J.B., VE3EAR-VE3WZL


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Thanks Henny!

73
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>Hi All,
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Lubos, Henny, Willem, and Victor,
   Thanks all for the captures of XGJ!

--=20
73 Warren K2ORS
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2009/2/11 Lubos OK2BVG <bvgbob@hotmail.com>:
> Hello Warren, LF!
> FB propagation, but very bad weather (snow and wind).
>
> Lubo=B9, OK2BVG, JN88KS
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    The cats and dogs may play but XGJ wins the day!
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2009/2/27 Lubos OK2BVG <bvgbob@hotmail.com>:
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Hi Jay, LF,

I was not using WSPR but I inspected the overnight captures from my grabber.

First frame in visually at 2226utc
Last frame out visually at 0744utc

I hope it helps.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp.



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John & group

The following from my post this morning...

>In order to further 'probe' the T/A sunset / sunrise propagation extremes,
WE2XGR/2 will transmit
>during two periods tonight. The first period will be 2030 - 2330Z and then
again at 0630 - 0930Z.
>Reports, especially 'first in' and 'last out' would be appreciated. If
anyone would like the times
>periods extended please let me know.

Will be back on at 0630Z.

Jay





----- Original Message ----- 
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> Jay, LF,
>
> I wonder if the WSPR TX is off at the moment, I see no one else has
> decoded anything beyond 23:32 and the waterfall shows an abrubt ending
> of a trace shortly into the 23:34 period.
>
> Hope all is well!
>
> John
> 




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Dear Andy, LF Group,

Should be better now - I have been playing with antennas due to the problem 
that arose yesterday with the increased noise levels. Incidentally, I just 
saw your frequency jump from 503870 to 503885 Hz in the middle of the 1830 
transmission, but still gave 0dB and +3dB SNRs - on two frequencies!

After going out and about with a loop and portable RX, I am now pretty 
certain that the QRM is being radiated from the Brookmans Park transmitter 
site. I am not entirely certain, but there seems to be some correlation 
between the noise and the BBC R5 909kHz transmission audio, the antenna of 
which is about 500m from here. This was also the case before, but the QRM 
level has risen by about 20dB in the last day or so.

As an experiment, I have lashed up an EWE-like antenna, and with suitable 
tweaking this gives about 20dB of unidirectional null, which has brought me 
back to more or less where I was before, at least for signals coming from a 
westerly direction. It is too big to be a permanent fixture, and also 
interacts with the TX antenna. But I think similar or better results will be 
achievable by phasing a vertical antenna against the existing loops here.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU


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> Why are you reporting such a low SNR, Jim ? 



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DE WD2XSH/17 tuned for WSPRs from G4JNT and G4WGT on or about 503.900 +/- 
100HZ.

Please advise your quitting times, else will let it run all night...

TNX

Dave


re: 
http://wsprnet.org/meptspots.php?mode=html&band=2190&limit=50&findcall=&findreporter=&sort=date




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> Dave
>
> If you believe this I have a bridge you might be interested in 
> purchasing...
>
> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2



No thanks, I have enuf worms for fishing...

Besides, I'm lazy and one run of wire outperforms my messy attempts @ 
loading the trees with HV wires that detune with humidity...

We installed a short flat top on the Sea Venture ( WJMV ) and I could tell 
you what the relative humidity was by the antenna current...
Some dielectric measuring device, eh??

10A into the ground radial common point is power wasted that could have been 
released into the air...
I'm talking about my crummy ground conductivity here ( silica sand ), not on 
a ship or @ a salt water location...

I think!!

What bridge?? An RF one??

Dave



----- Original Message ----- 
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>> No wasted power going into and out of the ground...
>
> Dave
>
> If you believe this I have a bridge you might be interested in 
> purchasing...
>
> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "dave.riley3" <dave.riley3@verizon.net>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>; <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>
> Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 11:53 AM
> Subject: LF: Re: LF Antennas - back to basics
>
>
>> Glad you asked, Andy...  Hope this one makes it past the spam filter...
>>
>> Back in the commercial AM transmitter biz days I buried miles of extra 
>> copper in to poor conductivity soil and gained little or nothing.
>> Then came Bill Ashloop who proved that a small transmit loop can do quite 
>> well.
>> http://www.wireless.org.uk/loopy.htm
>> http://www.w1tag.com/XESANT.htm
>>
>> So I surveryed the back yard which sits on very poor conductivity soil 
>> and therefore makes a loop appear to me more in free space and here are 
>> the advantages that I have found to date:
>>
>> No high voltage wire ends to start tree fires. No wasted power going into 
>> and out of the ground...
>>
>> Much less wire used in a LOOP transmit antenna. This #4 stranded HV wire 
>> rests inside of 100' sections of garden hose and is hoisted into trees 
>> with help of compound bow and pull line.
>>
>> No top loading, no radials, much less noise on RX, E-Z to tune and 
>> weather does not affect the tuning much such as from rain or snow, and it 
>> acts like a good vertical regardless of being much simpler.
>>
>> As for the CONS, well I just don't think of any...  Somebody??
>>
>> It works very well from 600M to 6M and is the only real antenna that I 
>> still have.
>>
>> Various feeds as noted below will let you tune it down to SAQ@17kc which 
>> I always hear and also makes for superb DX on 6M in 'some directions'.
>>
>> ref: http://www.radiocom.net/600M/LOOP109.jpg
>>
>> Wish I had a El-Nec printout but can't seem to fit this version in to it.
>>
>> QSL SURE VIA E-MAIL
>> 090226 0406   1 -29  0.0   0.503869  G4JNT IO90 23
>> 090226 0610   3 -29  0.0   0.503869  G4JNT IO90 23
>>
>> Have a quiet night and TNX from Dave @ WD2XSH/17
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Andy Talbot" <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>
>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 11:16 AM
>> Subject: LF: LF Antennas - back to basics
>>
>>
>>> Having now been encouraged by being decoded now by at least two US
>>> stations,  was wondering how much improvement in efficiency I could
>>> scrape out of my existing antenna.  It is a Marconi Tee, the vertical
>>> element consisting of three wires from the base tapering to 200mm
>>> spacing at the top.  There it is attached to the centre of a a
>>> capacity hat 15m long and 200mm wide made of three parallel wires.
>>>
>>> The ground system is a bit haphazard in my 7m wide by 12m long garden,
>>> with about 4 wires meeting at the base of the antenna meandering
>>> around the garden, starting off in different directions from teh base.
>>> They are all connected to substantial ground rods in heavy clay  at
>>> their far points, a with a few randomly spaced rods in between (I used
>>> several 1m lengths of 15mm water pipe as well as proper rods - there
>>> is probably about 9 or 10 rods in total, mostly 1 - 2m in length -
>>> can't remember that far back!   Some of the earth conductors were also
>>> bonded to the house wiring by a couple of substantial straps, and even
>>> inside the house I added more straps at strategic places.   I also
>>> ensured there was a good fat cable run directly under as much of the
>>> capacity hat as possible.   As a test, disconnecting the PME earthing
>>> bond and measuring the DC resistance between my total set of
>>> connections and the incoming conductor ground/neutral point, the value
>>> was a pretty consistent 3 ohms.  Haven't done this test for a few
>>> years, but at the last check it was still of this order.
>>>
>>> Back in the 73kHz days a number of (mostly big!) stations were
>>> surprised my signal was as strong as it was for probably the smallest
>>> antenna in use then; G3LDO put it down to the fact I had concentrated
>>> plenty of earthing wire to run directly under the top-hat.
>>>
>>> But, its all 14 years old,  still OK, but hopefully there's a wealth
>>> of experience now, and I wonder if there are obvious improvements that
>>> could be made:
>>>
>>> Firstly, bearing in mind there is no scope whatsoever to raise one end
>>> of the capacity hat which is defined by the apex of the house roof,
>>> and the other end would also need some major sugery to raise its heigh
>>> substantially, that only leaves the middle, ie the height of the
>>> actual radiator.    It wouldn't be too difficult to raise this to 10m
>>> or even more with a fibreglass pole, but will I be throwing away all
>>> the advantage by having the top-hat drooping down to 7m?
>>>
>>> Secondly, pictures of other peoples antennas aften show a substantial
>>> grounding plate immediately under and around the antenna base.  Just
>>> how far out is is worth going with a really substantial base.   I
>>> could cut more conductors into the ground; while the ground is still
>>> is still soggy in March may be a good time to do this.
>>>
>>> Any ideas please ...?
>>>
>>>
>>> Andy  G4JNT
>>> www.g4jnt.com
>>>
>>
> 



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Hello henny , Joe , LF ,
Nothing also !
73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

henny van elst a =E9crit :
> Hi Joe,
> nothing on the screen,
> henny cpm
> 73s
>
>  =20

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Thank-you Henny and others who were monitoring.
Unfortunately, as a result of another vile altercation
with Mother Nature (100 k winds/nasty snow storm) the
LF aerial is in a bad way!

Will report on progress as it is repaired.

73 and thanks
Joe VO1NA

On Thu, 19 Feb 2009, henny van elst wrote:

> Hi Joe and All,
> nil in the screen
> Henny cpm
> 73s
>


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HI Joe,lf

very good signal:

na27  00:30z
na28  02:30z
Almost a complete callsign

73

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Mal,

I have to disagree with that (at least at my location).
In 1998 (on 137kHz) I started with about 20 radials (15 to 50m long) =20
on the ground. After replacing this by 5 radials (15 to 35m long) =20
about 10cm in the ground and with a 2m earth stake at each end ground =20
loss was reduced by 30%.
At my location the antenna is surrounded by many (100's) trees.
Maybe the situation is different in the open.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

Quoting mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>:

> MF
> A couple of elevated insulated radials will out perform dozens of  =20
> buried radials, in fact 1 radial is vy effective, even insulated  =20
> radials lying above ground are also efficient.
> I use 2 insulated 1/4 wave elevated radials on 500 khz and several  =20
> lying on the ground for 137 khz.
> Using a loading coil in an elevated position on a vertical helps but =20
>  remember twice as many turns are required as opposed to base =20
> loading  hence more resistance, you might not be gaining as much =20
> advantage as  you think.
> de mal/g3kev
>



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Henny, Victor,
   Thanks for the reports!
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2009/2/2 henny van elst <cpm@planet.nl>:
> Hi Warren,
> capture XGJ
> Henny cpm
> 73s
> Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden
> verzonden:
> xgj 02-02.jpg
>
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Good signal from XGJ last night from WD2XGJ on 137.7798kHz starting 
at 0300UTC. See attached.

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Howdy Mike,

Well, I am grateful for the 2 nulls as there is little or no activity in 
those directions thus making for some gain in the favored directions ( 
NE-SW ) and lowering noise from the sides...

As far as lowering the R of this loop, I plan soon to parallel the loop with 
a second one tuned in the near field, that outta run the 'R' down some 
more...

In the meanwhile an e-probe way out in the woods helps to cancel some 
residual noise...

In the LowFer days 160-180 khz. I found that the AC neutral was a decent 
enuf ground.

The idea of having above ground radials with an inductance in series with 
their common point makes for lower looses as well, but then again, one 
allows the local 'E' field to become part of the 'loop' while a complete 
loop shunts the local E fields and produces far less lethan voltages..

Gudday from Dave @ WD2XSH/17


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Dennison" <mike.dennison@ntlworld.com>
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> Dave Riley write about loop antennas:
>> As for the CONS, well I just don't think of any...  Somebody??
>>
> There are two 'cons' that I can think of. One is the weight of the
> low-loss wire required. This would cause a problem in my own case as
> local restrictions lead me to use a fairly fragile mast. The other is
> directivity in the form of two sharp nulls.
>
> I have used a loop in the past and for a short while held the 73kHz
> distance record using it. However, after some comparitive tests, I
> opted for a Marconi which at that frequency had similar 'gain' but
> was almost omnidirectional.
>
> In all other respects you are, of course, right.
>
> Mike, G3XDV
> ==========
> 



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Henny, Victor,
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2009/2/4 henny van elst <cpm@planet.nl>:
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Is the entry on the uk500khz grabbers page  out of date ??

G ..

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Subject: Re: LF: Fldig Farq  mfsk16  beacon  503 Khz  pls try connect ?

>
> On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 21:26:52 +0000
> John P-G <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk> wrote:
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>> On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 19:02:42 -0000
>> "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
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>> >
>> > Follow on from last night
>> >
>> > Running Fldig in 'farq'  mode at 503 Khz centre frequency
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>> > Beacon  set every 60  seconds
>> >
>>
>>
>> Have grabber showing 501 - 503.3
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>
> oops... just in case anyone hasn't saved the current URL...
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> http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/gm4slv/gm4slv_500.jpg
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Dear Graham, Gary, LF Group,

Thanks for the QSOs this evening...

It seems MFSK16 works quite well in the presence of QRN, which is quite 
strong here tonight. There is always MFSK8 and MFSK4 to try as well.

The Flarq ARQ mode was quite interesting, although probably not what you 
want for a "traditional" QSO. I imagine it could work quite well when you 
actually want to transmit quite a large amount of text over a period of 
time, rather than "ur 599 wx not vy gud" etc. I set the packet length to 16, 
the smallest possible, with the idea of maximising the chances of receiving 
un-corrupted packets under weak signal conditions, at the expense of 
increased ARQ overheads. Timing out seems to be a problem; there are options 
to configure number of retries and timeout period, which it would probably 
be sensible to set to more than the default 5 retries / 60s timeout due to 
the nature of the QSB on 500kHz. Also, there does not seem to be a way of 
forcing a disconnection if you lose contact with the other station - I think 
this was causing trouble when I  was trying to "connect" G4WGT after G0NBD 
had timed out.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
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MessageHi LF,Peter,Dave and Lee.

Thank's for reports !

Transmitter run also this evening, WSPR mode dial 503,2 USB 1W ERP.

73 de Gus SM6BHZ




  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Lee Hudson=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 4:38 AM
  Subject: LF: SM6BHZ WSPR


  Hi Gus,

  WSPR Log received here.
  Available on WSPRnet too.

  73,
  Lee M0LMH IO93gx.

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<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4>Hi LF,Peter,Dave and=20
Lee.</FONT></EM></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4></FONT></EM></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4>Thank's for reports !</FONT></EM></STRONG></=
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<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4></FONT></EM></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
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<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4>73 de Gus SM6BHZ</FONT></EM></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4></FONT></EM></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV     style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black=
"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dhudsonville@btinternet.com     href=3D"mailto:hudsonville@btint=
ernet.com">Lee Hudson</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacks=
heep.org     href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blac=
ksheep.org</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, February 02, 2009 4:3=
8=20
  AM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: SM6BHZ WSPR</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN class=3D101233203-02022009>Hi=20
  Gus,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN     class=3D101233203-02022009></SP=
AN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN class=3D101233203-02022009>WSPR Log=
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  here.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN class=3D101233203-02022009>Availabl=
e on=20
  WSPRnet too.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN     class=3D101233203-02022009></SP=
AN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN     class=3D101233203-02022009>73,<=
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN class=3D101233203-02022009>Lee M0LM=
H=20
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN     class=3D101233203-02022009></SP=
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Hello Warren, LF!
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Hi Gary, very interesting, especially the correlation of the signal strength=
s which seems moderately high.
for those wishing to do similar processing of WSPR data, I have written an E=
xcel macro that enables you to extract data from the web database very quick=
ly, and also converts the text based time date fields to a usable (ie plotta=
ble) format.
http://www.dc2light.co.uk/getwspr1.6.xls
no warranty offered or implied.
it doesn't seem to work under openoffice either..
Hope this is of use
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Gary - G4WGT=20
  To: LF -RSGB LF Group=20
  Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 4:38 PM
  Subject: LF: 500khz wspr spreadsheet


  Hi LF,

  =20

  I have created a MS Excel spread-sheet for my WSPRing last night. I have u=
ploaded it to my website as it is too large for the LF group forum. On three=
 worksheets there is a graph in marker format, a graph in line format & the=20=
data from the five stations who reported to the WSPR Spots page.

  =20

  It is my first attempt at an Excel chart, please let me know what you thin=
k. It can be downloaded at :-

  =20

  http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/WSPR01.xls

  =20

  73,

  =20

  Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.

  =20



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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi Gary, very interesting, especially the=20
correlation of the signal strengths which seems moderately high.</FONT></DIV=
>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>for those wishing to do similar processing=20=
of WSPR=20
data, I have written an Excel macro that enables you to extract data from th=
e=20
web database very quickly, and also converts the text based time date fields=
 to=20
a usable (ie plottable) format.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A   href=3D"http://www.dc2light.co.uk/getw=
spr1.6.xls">http://www.dc2light.co.uk/getwspr1.6.xls</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>no warranty offered or implied.</FONT></DIV=
>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>it doesn't seem to work under openoffice=20
either..</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hope this is of use</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacks=
heep.org     href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">LF -RSGB LF Group<=
/A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, February 25, 2009=20=
4:38=20
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: 500khz wspr=20
spreadsheet</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
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  <P class=3DMsoNormal><B><FONT face=3DArial size=3D3><SPAN     style=3D"FON=
T-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I have created=20
  a MS Excel spread-sheet for my WSPRing last night. I have uploaded it to m=
y=20
  website as it is too large for the LF group forum. On three worksheets the=
re=20
  is a graph in marker format, a graph in line format &amp; the data from th=
e=20
  five stations who reported to the WSPR Spots=20
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Hi All,
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73s
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi All,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>73s</FONT></DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het volgende 
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Jordan


The card is a PCI  ,   M - Audio Delta 4

running with windows  xp-pro

There are a selection of clock speeds .. but  it seems that when a 
application runs . it defaults to the 44k setting .. but  for all other 
software .. no problem .. works very well

G ..

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>
> Is this for an on-board sound card, and if not, what type of bus is it 
> on..?
> 73...Jordan....
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>>
>> wspr and the over clocked sound card
>>
>> Was there a resolve to the  problem of the  short wspr  tx produced by a
>> soundcard that was running  slightly  faster than it  should
>>
>> 1.5 seconds short .....  about 1 %
>>
>> , resulting in no decodes for strong signals .. presumably by providing
>> too many sync's
>>
>> There is no way of changing the  sample  rate of the  card .. there is a
>> option in the  driver . but  as soon as wspr  runs . the  card reverts to
>> the  normal 44 khz setting
>>
>> No problems with any of the  other  systems as the  card can be 
>> calibrated
>> (though not  needed)
>>
>> any  fixes or ideas ??
>>
>> tnx
>>
>> Graham ..
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Hi Warren,lf

traces at 4:30z

73

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Hello Jeff and group,
maybe someone can pass this message on to F6BWO since I don't have his 
email address (if he has internet access):

I was in contact with Jeff this morning at DK4U, and the QRM was 
surprisingly low. F6BWO was 539 here (at DK4U).
The antenna impedance was very ununual too, and after half an hour, the 
PA ran wild and finally the supply's current monitor tripped.
Not sure what exactly happened but looks like after many years of 
reliable operation, one of the MOSFETs has blown.
Possibly the gate bias control didn't like the -2°C shack temperature ....
Hope to be QRV on LF again soon, with a more endurable FET than the 
IRF540 (possibly a HUF75343, giving one or two dB's more output).

73,
   Wolf  DL4YHF .


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AA1A QSW UK WSPR QRSS window 503.900 +/-

Last night saw strong CW beacon on 503.950 separated by long dash but was 
not able to copy ID by ear...

TNX


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rik Strobbe" <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
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Subject: Re: LF: Ultra pico-low-power WSPR beacon


Andy,

I am monitoring and uploading eventual spots.
I will leave the RX / PC on overnight, so whoever want to give it a try ...

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

Quoting Andy Talbot <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>:

> Just for a bit of novelty, I'm running probably the lowest power WSPR
> signal seen on this band.   Frequency 503.87kHz (set the usual USB
> carrier 502.4) RF power is -2dBm, so ERP is in the region of -27dBm.
> Duty cycle 33% (well, actually, 34.375%, but who's counting)
>
> Judging by some of the WSPR reports on my signal when runing 100 Watts
> in the past, a few local stations may just be able to decode it.
>
> As for PN sequences, I admited defeat and just wrote down a series of
> ones and zeros then played with them till they looked right and had
> the correct numbers of each in a  32 bit pattern (which is why 33% and
> 20% duty cycle values aren't spot-on)
> On the assumptuin that its not random at all, why try to generate
> other than by eye?
>
> Interesting to know Joe had a similar headache over this issue, Scott.
>  Clearly it isn't a 'mountain out of a molehill' problem after all.
>
>
> Andy  G4JNT
> www.g4jnt.com
>
>



Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm




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Hello to our UK Friends

I was wondering if there is someone over there that has a real indepth 
understanding of how the UK Notice of Variation (NOV) system works with 
respect to amateurs seeking to operate on none amateurs bands for 
experiments.

We need considerable details of the law and regulation involved. 
Particularly how does the system work in a legal sense.

If you can help please contact me off list.

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Scott
VE7TIL





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Hello Henny , Victor , Joe ,
Good copy for you !
For me , just a small trace ( see capture )
73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

henny van elst a =E9crit :
> Hi Joe,Lf,
> The complete call Joe,
> Henny CPM
> Best 73s
> Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzond=
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I like "To Russia with love" ! <BR>
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Victor,
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Having now been encouraged by being decoded now by at least two US
stations,  was wondering how much improvement in efficiency I could
scrape out of my existing antenna.  It is a Marconi Tee, the vertical
element consisting of three wires from the base tapering to 200mm
spacing at the top.  There it is attached to the centre of a a
capacity hat 15m long and 200mm wide made of three parallel wires.

The ground system is a bit haphazard in my 7m wide by 12m long garden,
with about 4 wires meeting at the base of the antenna meandering
around the garden, starting off in different directions from teh base.
 They are all connected to substantial ground rods in heavy clay  at
their far points, a with a few randomly spaced rods in between (I used
several 1m lengths of 15mm water pipe as well as proper rods - there
is probably about 9 or 10 rods in total, mostly 1 - 2m in length -
can't remember that far back!   Some of the earth conductors were also
bonded to the house wiring by a couple of substantial straps, and even
inside the house I added more straps at strategic places.   I also
ensured there was a good fat cable run directly under as much of the
capacity hat as possible.   As a test, disconnecting the PME earthing
bond and measuring the DC resistance between my total set of
connections and the incoming conductor ground/neutral point, the value
was a pretty consistent 3 ohms.  Haven't done this test for a few
years, but at the last check it was still of this order.

Back in the 73kHz days a number of (mostly big!) stations were
surprised my signal was as strong as it was for probably the smallest
antenna in use then; G3LDO put it down to the fact I had concentrated
plenty of earthing wire to run directly under the top-hat.

But, its all 14 years old,  still OK, but hopefully there's a wealth
of experience now, and I wonder if there are obvious improvements that
could be made:

Firstly, bearing in mind there is no scope whatsoever to raise one end
of the capacity hat which is defined by the apex of the house roof,
and the other end would also need some major sugery to raise its heigh
substantially, that only leaves the middle, ie the height of the
actual radiator.    It wouldn't be too difficult to raise this to 10m
or even more with a fibreglass pole, but will I be throwing away all
the advantage by having the top-hat drooping down to 7m?

Secondly, pictures of other peoples antennas aften show a substantial
grounding plate immediately under and around the antenna base.  Just
how far out is is worth going with a really substantial base.   I
could cut more conductors into the ground; while the ground is still
is still soggy in March may be a good time to do this.

Any ideas please ...?


Andy  G4JNT
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FLdigi also works well http://www.w1hkj.com/Fldigi.html .

Jay

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rik Strobbe" <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
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Here Stream and Multipsk are working side by side for almost 1 hour  
now (fingers crossed).
However no copy so far.
I leave them running overnight.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

Quoting jrusgrove@comcast.net:

> Gary
>
> The program keeps running okay here.
>
> A couple other points though. Unlike Multipsk one has to specify the
> lower edge of the bandpass - not the middle. This is 120 Hz below the
> center. In other words if 800 Hz is your received audio center
> frequency set the frequency to 680. Maybe there is a way to set it to
> the center...if so I havn't found it.
>
> The bigger problem is with other applications running at the same time.
> Just opened an internet browser and copy went to garbage. MultiPSK kept
> decoding properly.
>
> Jay
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 4:54 PM
> Subject: RE: LF: WE2XGR/2 in MFSK8
>
>
>> Jay, LF,
>>
>> I also downloaded Stream & it runs for about 30 seconds & freezes.
>>
>> 73 - Gary - G4WGT.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of
>> jrusgrove@comcast.net
>> Sent: 07 February 2009 21:42
>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>> Subject: Re: LF: WE2XGR/2 in MFSK8
>>
>> Rik and group
>>
>> Confirming start at 2130Z.
>>
>> Downloaded Stream earlier and was unable to get it to work. MultiPSK works
>> fine. May very well be
>> cockpit error. Will  look into it.
>>
>> Jay
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rik Strobbe"   
>> <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 4:28 PM
>> Subject: Re: LF: WE2XGR/2 in MFSK8
>>
>>
>>> Jay,
>>>
>>> It just downloaded / installed stream (IZ8BLY).
>>> RX / PC is on 508.5 overnight
>>>
>>> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
>>>
>>> Quoting jrusgrove@comcast.net:
>>>
>>>> WE2XGR/2 will be transmitting in MFSK8 mode on 508.5 kHz from 2130Z -
>>>> 0000Z tonight. Reports are appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> When using MultiPSK as the decoder be advised that the program has been
>>>> known to occasionally go on 'walkabout' after loss of signal. Stopping
>>>> and restarting the decoder seems to solve the problem.
>>>>
>>>> Jay  W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>



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Hi Rik, LF,

Thanks for your report.

Very interesting the difference in QSB depth, just had a look at the WSPR
spots & see the levels reported there. The QSB is a lot deeper with G3XVL
-10  to -24 & quite shallow with GM4ISM -22 to -28.

I will keep an eye on the reports for tonight & see if the QSB changes at
all.

BTW, the antenna has been down to 9 metres since the storms here last month
& the capacity hat top load is looking a very sorry state. I have plans to
replace the top hat with a stronger version & slightly larger.

73

Gary - G4WGT.


-----Original Message-----
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Gary,

solid copy, -13dB SNR here with little QSB
G4JNT is -5 / +5dB SNR, remarkable more QSB.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

Quoting Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>:

> Hi LF,
>
>
>
> Running WSPR beacon tonight for a while.
>
>
>
> Frequency 503.915KHz - 2 mW ERP (3dBm)
>
>
>
> 73,
>
>
>
> Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.
>
>
>
>



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A couple of elevated insulated radials will out perform dozens of buried rad=
ials, in fact 1 radial is vy effective, even insulated radials lying above g=
round are also efficient.=20
I use 2 insulated 1/4 wave elevated radials on 500 khz and several lying on=20=
the ground for 137 khz.
Using a loading coil in an elevated position on a vertical helps but remembe=
r twice as many turns are required as opposed to base loading hence more res=
istance, you might not be gaining as much advantage as you think.
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Subject: LF: Dual Beacon stopped 2230 - FLDIGI    ARQ  MFSK16 , 503 Khz 
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Thanks for all reports over the night .  Dual beacon stopped
Hope was of use , mfsk16 may be used in non linear systems
so looks like a good mode for 500 ?

Ive re configured to  normal working - rx now  active

Station now in FLDIGI  ARQ mode  running mfsk16  at 503 Khz cent frequency

Pls try connect , mycall set to  G0NBD

will leave active till round 2400 hrs

Tnx G..



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From: "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
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Subject: LF: If anyones about , MT63  x 500 Hz and Olivia 500 x 8 running 
now 1935 hrs

>
> As a follow on to some tests  with Gary  , with Olivia  500 x 8 and the
> original MT63 system
>
> Running  two  data streams now at about 10  watts per mode , carrier
> frequencies are :-
>
> mt63   501.5 to  502 Khz
>
> olivia 500x8  503 Khz +/-  250 Hz
>
> The book says mt63 should not print as well as olivia .....
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> tnx - G ..
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>
>



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Victor, Lubos, Henny,

    Thank you for the reports and captures!
XGJ is at full power once again.
-- 
73 Warren K2ORS
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Hi Warren ,

The storm passed , the calm one returned ,
I raised 127 km/h in my pylon 15 m in height !
No damage here ( the grabber functioned
during the night )

73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

Warren Ziegler a =E9crit :
> Bonsoir Jean-Pierre,
>
>     I hope the wind does not damage your antenna!
> Thank you for the report!
> --
> 73 Warren K2ORS
>                 WD2XGJ
>                 WD2XSH/23
>                 WE2XEB/2
>                 WE2XGR/1
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> On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 6:27 PM, "Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 (F1AFJ)"
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>> Hi Warren ,
>>
>> Hol=E0 ! very very stong signal now !!!!!
>> Here the storm is very violent (110km/h)
>> in this moment
>>
>> 73 qro Jean-Pierre
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Hi all,
The spurious calls generated here are as a result of a wideband birdie that 
wanders through the 500KHz band, probably a switchmode PSU
Not all the bad decodes get uploaded, so there would appear to be some 
filtering of what is uploaded
What the software needs is a checkbox after each decode, so that the user 
can mark bad messages, the system could them automatically remove those from 
the database

I have also been analysing the spots by graphing signal strength, and 
comparing for example my reception of SM5BHZ with that of other stations.
(for anyone interested I have used an Excel macro to download specified 
spots from the web database, and put them in a formal easy to use with the 
graph wizard)

I am coming to the conclusion that the single reported signal level is 
barely adequate on 500KHz, an pretty useless when the QSB is fast.. what 
WSPR software needs for studying propagation is perhaps 10 or 20  sig level 
measurements per period, just uploaded to the database for future study.  I 
have suggested this to Joe, but I think he has higher priorities and no-one 
else has requested anything similar

Regards
Mark GM4ISM
www.dc2light.co.uk


----- Original Message ----- 
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> According to the WSPR Spot database, there is some "interesting" DX
> being received chez GM4ISM.
> Is there some carrier or coherent  QRM present to generate these false 
> hits?
>
> Just got a WSPR generating routine running on a 16F628 PIC with AD9852
> DDS combination.
> At the moment it only operates at 100% duty cycle, but I'm Looking at
> PN sequences for randomised transmission slots with 20/25/33% Duty
> cycle operation.
>
> Andy  G4JNT
> www.g4jnt.com
>
>


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WE2XGR/2 will be transmitting in PSKFEC31 mode tonight on 508.5 kHz starting 
2130Z and will continue until at least 0100Z and perhaps beyond.

PSKFEC31 (PSK31 with forward error correction) can be decoded with the 
colorful program MultiPSK - available at http://www.f6cte.free.fr/ . 
Sunglasses are recommended for the first time user. As far as I know there 
are no other programs that can decode this mode. If anyone has info to the 
contrary please advise.

Some background info on PSKFEC31 and other digital modes as well as tests 
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.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2 



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Since 9:00, I'm seeing 10s dashes with 2 s breaks, freq 136290Hz +- some dri=
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nel at http://freenet-homepage.de/df6nm/Grabber.htm

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UNID QRSS on 503.950 now, too much QRN


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Jay, LF.

I never thought I'd be able to receive a signal on 500kHz from so far away;
this is astonishing! I am in a fairly buit up area and it's really very
noisy, but I decided to monitor the frequency anyway....

The antenna is an inverted L for top band up at about 8m above ground level,
also trapped for 40 and 80m so hardly ideal. RX is an FT990, no filters, no
preamps etc, just straight to PC.

First Decode at 2154, similar to Andy's but then after a short gap
reasonably reliable all evening.

Cheers Jay,

de Mike G7AQA IO93DT.


2154 -30 -0.3   0.508510  0 WE2XGR FN31 57
2202 -30 -0.5   0.508510  0 WE2XGR FN31 57
2206 -30 -0.4   0.508510  0 WE2XGR FN31 57
2208 -30 -0.3   0.508510  0 WE2XGR FN31 57
2222 -30 -0.3   0.508510  0 WE2XGR FN31 57
2224 -28 -0.3   0.508510  0 WE2XGR FN31 57
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2246 -25 -0.3   0.508510  0 WE2XGR FN31 57
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2322 -24 -0.3   0.508510  0 WE2XGR FN31 57
2324 -22 -0.4   0.508510  0 WE2XGR FN31 57
2326 -20 -0.4   0.508510  0 WE2XGR FN31 57
2328 -25 -0.4   0.508510  0 WE2XGR FN31 57
2330 -27 -0.3   0.508510  0 WE2XGR FN31 57
2332 -29 -0.3   0.508510  0 WE2XGR FN31 57
2334 -27 -0.3   0.508510  0 WE2XGR FN31 57
2338 -27 -0.4   0.508510  0 WE2XGR FN31 57

-----Original Message-----
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Subject: LF: WE2XGR/2 in WSPR mode

WE2XGR/2 will be in WSPR mode tonight starting 2030Z on dial frequency
507.000 kHz. The start time has been moved up as las Tuesday's session
produced copy as soon as the transmitter was fired up at 2200Z. It will be
interesting to see how early stations are able to receive the beacon. Sunset
here today is 2206Z.

In years past CT1DRP on 137 kHz was received (QRSS30) here as early as 2015Z
- more than an hour before sunset.

Reports and 'spots' uploaded to the WSPR database are appreciated.

Jay  W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2




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Heavy snow (by our standards!) in S England, so took the opportunity
to not bother going into work and to carry on logging.

The signal has been pretty consistent at -20dB +/- 4  since switch-on
at 0640, and has now risen by about 10dB S/N at 0720.  There is now
local QRM, and that suggests the signal strength increase is actually
greater still - certainly appears so from the SpectraVue waterfall
plot.

Andy  G4JNT
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Dear Andy, LF Group,

It seems they are being automatically re-issued - the letter with mine says 
"new NoVs are being issued to existing holders". I did not have to re-apply.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU

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Are they being automatically extended, or is reapplication necessary ?

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Dear Jay, LF Group,

Would it be possible to QSY to slightly above last night's frequency - say 
to 508.52 or 508.53kHz RF? You would then be clear of the " intermittent CW" 
noise I am getting here on 508.50kHz.

As before, I have two RXs running here, on 502.4kHz and 507kHz "dial 
frequency".

Cheers, Jim Moritz
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> Confirming start of WSPR transmission 2030Z on 507.000 dial frequency.
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> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
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Hi, Jay, LF,

Last decode here this moring was at 0754, just as daylight broke...
0742 -20 -0.5   0.508510  0 WE2XGR FN31 57
0744 -21 -0.4   0.508510  0 WE2XGR FN31 57
0746 -29 -0.4   0.508510  0 WE2XGR FN31 57
0748 -30 -0.5   0.508510  0 WE2XGR FN31 57
0750 -23 -0.5   0.508510  0 WE2XGR FN31 57
0752 -26 -0.5   0.508510  0 WE2XGR FN31 57
0754 -29 -0.4   0.508510  0 WE2XGR FN31 57

Thanks for being on, I can certainly say I've had my eyes opened as to what
is possible.

Cheers, Mike G7AQA.

-----Original Message-----
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jrusgrove@comcast.net
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Subject: LF: WE2XGR/2 in WSPR mode

WE2XGR/2 will be in WSPR mode tonight starting 2030Z on dial frequency
507.000 kHz. The start time has been moved up as las Tuesday's session
produced copy as soon as the transmitter was fired up at 2200Z. It will be
interesting to see how early stations are able to receive the beacon. Sunset
here today is 2206Z.

In years past CT1DRP on 137 kHz was received (QRSS30) here as early as 2015Z
- more than an hour before sunset.

Reports and 'spots' uploaded to the WSPR database are appreciated.

Jay  W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2




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Willem,
  Thank you for the capture!
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73 Warren K2ORS
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                WE2XGR/1





2009/2/3 Willem De Roode <wdr@casema.nl>:
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Hi Rik, LF,

Yes I guessed that possibly some gaps in any reporting may be due to other
activities at the remote station. You probably saw Chris G3XVL had an XP
auto update & PC re-boot. The more distant stations could have had severe
QSB.

Well , I did say it was my first attempt at an Excel chart & it did work for
me & raised some interest & valid feedback. I need to refine the chart with
labels & descriptions if required. I believe we do need some form charting
or tabulation of the reports even if each operator only processes their own.

Regards,

Gary - G4WGT.

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Rik Strobbe
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Subject: Re: LF: 500khz wspr spreadsheet

Gary,

the gap in my data is due to the fact that I was using the RX /  
antenna otherwise.
Just one remark regarding the data: keep in mind that it is SNR (not  
signal strength). I have my LF antenna at a rather remote location in  
the garden. Nearest houses, street light and other possible QRM  
sources are at least 50m from the antenna and at my own house most  
local QRM sources have been eliminated. This might explain the  
relative "good" values.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

Quoting Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>:

> Hi LF,
>
>
>
> I have created a MS Excel spread-sheet for my WSPRing last night. I have
> uploaded it to my website as it is too large for the LF group forum. On
> three worksheets there is a graph in marker format, a graph in line format
&
> the data from the five stations who reported to the WSPR Spots page.
>
>
>
> It is my first attempt at an Excel chart, please let me know what you
think.
> It can be downloaded at :-
>
>
>
> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/WSPR01.xls
>
>
>
> 73,
>
>
>
> Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.
>
>
>
>



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Dear Andy, Dave, LF Group,

My experience is that improvements to the ground system soon reach a point 
of diminishing returns where the ground connection losses are small compared 
to other losses - I would expect you have reached that point already. In my 
case, literally filling the garden with wire made at best about 0.5dB 
improvement by reducing loss resistance, compared to having about 5 ground 
rods spaced a few metres around the downlead and loading coil. However 
increasing the height of the top loading, even if only in the middle, does 
lead to substantial improvements. One benefit of doing this is that the 
effective height and radiation resistance is increased by increasing the 
average height of the antenna wires. If you are in a fairly built-up 
environment, the improvement is probably more than you would expect from 
calculating the effective height from the dimensions of the antenna itself, 
because increasing the physical height of the antenna puts it further above, 
or nearer the top of, screening buildings and trees etc., that are 
surrounding it. Also, moving the antenna further above loss-causing objects 
leads to a modest reduction in the loss resistance. In my case, with an 
inverted L about 10m high at the ends and sagging to 9m in the middle, 
propping up the middle of the span with a fibreglass pole to about 14m 
increases ERP by 3 - 4dB.

As to possible advantages and disadvantages of a loop compared to a 
vertical, in general the loop ought to benefit from lower dielectric losses 
due to the generally lower voltages. The directional pattern is often 
helpful on receive. But the figure-of-eight directional pattern could also 
be a drawback for a transmit antenna where it isn't practical to rotate the 
antenna to avoid having nulls in awkward directions. Also, one has to think 
about the scale. AA1A's loop is quite big in overall dimensions compared to 
G4JNT's vertical. The radiation resistance of a loop is proportional to the 
square of the area, which is proportional to the square of the linear 
dimensions of the loop conductor - so when scaling down a loop, one would 
expect Rrad to reduce much faster than Rloss due to reduction in perimeter, 
and so efficiency of relatively small loops to be poor.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Andy Talbot" <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 4:16 PM
Subject: LF: LF Antennas - back to basics


> Firstly, bearing in mind there is no scope whatsoever to raise one end
> of the capacity hat which is defined by the apex of the house roof,
> and the other end would also need some major sugery to raise its heigh
> substantially, that only leaves the middle, ie the height of the
> actual radiator.    It wouldn't be too difficult to raise this to 10m
> or even more with a fibreglass pole, but will I be throwing away all
> the advantage by having the top-hat drooping down to 7m?
>
> Secondly, pictures of other peoples antennas aften show a substantial
> grounding plate immediately under and around the antenna base.  Just
> how far out is is worth going with a really substantial base.   I
> could cut more conductors into the ground; while the ground is still
> is still soggy in March may be a good time to do this.
>
> Any ideas please ...?
>
>
> Andy  G4JNT
> www.g4jnt.com
> 



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Hello Waren, LF!
I saw strong  XGJ signal around midnight UT. I have been testing my new rece=
iving antenna (AMRAD by Frank Gentges, K0BRA), so I am lookin forward for mo=
rning XGJ signal.

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Hello Waren, LF!<br>I saw strong&nbsp; XGJ signal around midnight UT. I have=
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Hi Warren.lf,

just traces xgj 7:30z

73

Victor

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Hi Henny,
Thanks for the screenshot!

73
Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV


> Hi Lf,
> capture AGC-WPF
> Henny cpm
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Graham, LF,

Initial results show that MFSK16 is about 10dB over Olivia on the SpecLab
display, also were the Olivia is running a 90pc print (losses caused by
noise & static crashes) the MFSK16 is 100pc copy.

Gary - G4WGT.

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Mode change

>From the initial reports it looks like the MT63 system is not as robust at 
the olivia 500 x 8

I will  change the MT63  mode to  MFSK16  , at  1000 Hz audio cent , ( 502 
Khz  rf cent )

As mfsk will pass via a non linear system , this may be of wider interest

Change time  >>> 2100 Hrs gmt <<<<

tnx - G ..



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running now 1935 hrs

>
> Nb . no rx cycle
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
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> now 1935 hrs
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>>
>> As a follow on to some tests  with Gary  , with Olivia  500 x 8 and the
>> original MT63 system
>>
>> Running  two  data streams now at about 10  watts per mode , carrier
>> frequencies are :-
>>
>> mt63   501.5 to  502 Khz
>>
>> olivia 500x8  503 Khz +/-  250 Hz
>>
>> The book says mt63 should not print as well as olivia .....
>>
>> tnx - G ..
>>
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Dear Graham, LF Group,

Only occasional recognisable bits of text here - none of the beacon 
transmissions were strong enough to copy in this mode.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU

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>
>
> Fldig  Farq beacon  bpsk125  503 Khz
> running till  2400 , psl try connect
>
> tnx - G ..
> 



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Not unsurprisingly, nothing heard during the night at the -2dBm RF
power level.
Just put a 3W amp into circuit to test it - which will explain the few
hits now being seen with the 37dB power increase.

Andy  G4JNT
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2009/2/21 Andy Talbot <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>:
> Now running 100% duty cycle 503.870kHz
>
> BTW.  the power level sent within the message is intended to be
> meaningless as there is no provision for it to indicate the correct
> value, ERP or otherwise.
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> Andy  G4JNT
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On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 21:26:52 +0000
John P-G <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 19:02:42 -0000
> "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Follow on from last night 
> > 
> > Running Fldig in 'farq'  mode at 503 Khz centre frequency 
> > 
> > Beacon  set every 60  seconds 
> > 
> 
> 
> Have grabber showing 501 - 503.3
> 

oops... just in case anyone hasn't saved the current URL...

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Look like a squadron of Peregrine falcons in a stoop dive....

 

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Hello LF!
I saw something interesting on 137.777. Is is LX effect?

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Hello Andrey , LF
Good copy of your signal last night on my grabber ( antenna in USA! )
73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

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> Hello Victor, Henny,
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> 73
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Hi Warren,
capture xgj
henny cpm
73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
XGJ 17-02.jpg

Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld.

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Warren,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>capture xgj</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>henny cpm</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>73s</FONT></DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het volgende 
bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:<BR>XGJ 17-02.jpg<BR><BR>Opmerking: 
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Hi LF,

 

I have created a MS Excel spread-sheet for my WSPRing last night. I have
uploaded it to my website as it is too large for the LF group forum. On
three worksheets there is a graph in marker format, a graph in line format &
the data from the five stations who reported to the WSPR Spots page.

 

It is my first attempt at an Excel chart, please let me know what you think.
It can be downloaded at :-

 

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/WSPR01.xls

 

73,

 

Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.

 


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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>I have created a MS Excel sprea=
d-sheet for
my WSPRing last night. I have uploaded it to my website as it is too large f=
or
the LF group forum. On three worksheets there is a graph in marker format, a
graph in line format &amp; the data from the five stations who reported to t=
he
WSPR Spots page.<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>It is my first attempt at an Ex=
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a><o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

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Jim,

Yes I can confirm this :-

>>>>
increasing the height of the top loading, even if only in the middle, does
lead to substantial improvements. One benefit of doing this is that the
effective height and radiation resistance is increased by increasing the
average height of the antenna wires
>>>>

I made a substantial improvement to the  original inverted L system,  35 
feet x 40 foot  top , by adding a loading  coil to the  top of the  vertical 
section (actually  the 40 feet  of top wire wound round a coke bottle) and 
providing 2 x 40 ft capacity wires 6 feet apart back to the  house.

Earth is everything that conducts in the garden bonded along with a couple 
of 12 ft alloy scaffold poles sunk in,  to one point   along with a couple 
of 50 foot  ground lying wires as well, feed is via a auto transformer and a 
variometer in series , I did use a parallel tuner but this flashes over 
above 50 watts ,

A bonus , is the  system now works well on 1.8 and  3.5  Mhz as well . but 
with a very high Q , 20 Khz  qsy on 3.8 is enough for the pa to trip on vswr

Notably, Gary, has modelled  his array , similar 35 ft vertical section, 
using mmana  and he favours the  loading coil to be placed mid section, the 
offset capacity section of my array dose produce a slight slew of the 
pattern, but  nothing too radical

tnx- G ..

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From: "James Moritz" <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 11:43 PM
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Subject: LF: Re: LF Antennas - back to basics

>
> Dear Andy, Dave, LF Group,
>
> My experience is that improvements to the ground system soon reach a point
> of diminishing returns where the ground connection losses are small 
> compared
> to other losses - I would expect you have reached that point already. In 
> my
> case, literally filling the garden with wire made at best about 0.5dB
> improvement by reducing loss resistance, compared to having about 5 ground
> rods spaced a few metres around the downlead and loading coil. However
> increasing the height of the top loading, even if only in the middle, does
> lead to substantial improvements. One benefit of doing this is that the
> effective height and radiation resistance is increased by increasing the
> average height of the antenna wires. If you are in a fairly built-up
> environment, the improvement is probably more than you would expect from
> calculating the effective height from the dimensions of the antenna 
> itself,
> because increasing the physical height of the antenna puts it further 
> above,
> or nearer the top of, screening buildings and trees etc., that are
> surrounding it. Also, moving the antenna further above loss-causing 
> objects
> leads to a modest reduction in the loss resistance. In my case, with an
> inverted L about 10m high at the ends and sagging to 9m in the middle,
> propping up the middle of the span with a fibreglass pole to about 14m
> increases ERP by 3 - 4dB.
>
> As to possible advantages and disadvantages of a loop compared to a
> vertical, in general the loop ought to benefit from lower dielectric 
> losses
> due to the generally lower voltages. The directional pattern is often
> helpful on receive. But the figure-of-eight directional pattern could also
> be a drawback for a transmit antenna where it isn't practical to rotate 
> the
> antenna to avoid having nulls in awkward directions. Also, one has to 
> think
> about the scale. AA1A's loop is quite big in overall dimensions compared 
> to
> G4JNT's vertical. The radiation resistance of a loop is proportional to 
> the
> square of the area, which is proportional to the square of the linear
> dimensions of the loop conductor - so when scaling down a loop, one would
> expect Rrad to reduce much faster than Rloss due to reduction in 
> perimeter,
> and so efficiency of relatively small loops to be poor.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Andy Talbot" <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 4:16 PM
> Subject: LF: LF Antennas - back to basics
>
>
>> Firstly, bearing in mind there is no scope whatsoever to raise one end
>> of the capacity hat which is defined by the apex of the house roof,
>> and the other end would also need some major sugery to raise its heigh
>> substantially, that only leaves the middle, ie the height of the
>> actual radiator.    It wouldn't be too difficult to raise this to 10m
>> or even more with a fibreglass pole, but will I be throwing away all
>> the advantage by having the top-hat drooping down to 7m?
>>
>> Secondly, pictures of other peoples antennas aften show a substantial
>> grounding plate immediately under and around the antenna base.  Just
>> how far out is is worth going with a really substantial base.   I
>> could cut more conductors into the ground; while the ground is still
>> is still soggy in March may be a good time to do this.
>>
>> Any ideas please ...?
>>
>>
>> Andy  G4JNT
>> www.g4jnt.com
>>
>
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Hi Joe
capture vo1na
henny cpm
73s
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Looks like a cw beacon .. but hf of that frequency .. don't  see any wspr 
activity ?

G ..

http://www.wireless.org.uk/grab/

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber1.html

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From: "dave.riley3" <dave.riley3@verizon.net>
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 10:49 PM
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Subject: LF: Re: WSPR Spots

>
> Am seeing activity on 503.900 but no WSPR decodes...
>
> Just widely separated dashes of about 8 seconds length...
>
> QRU
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Andy Talbot" <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 5:11 PM
> Subject: LF: WSPR Spots
>
>
>> According to the WSPR Spot database, there is some "interesting" DX
>> being received chez GM4ISM.
>> Is there some carrier or coherent  QRM present to generate these false
>> hits?
>>
>> Just got a WSPR generating routine running on a 16F628 PIC with AD9852
>> DDS combination.
>> At the moment it only operates at 100% duty cycle, but I'm Looking at
>> PN sequences for randomised transmission slots with 20/25/33% Duty
>> cycle operation.
>>
>> Andy  G4JNT
>> www.g4jnt.com
>>
>
>
>



>
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.1/1962 - Release Date: 02/20/09 
> 07:26:00
> 



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On 23/02/2009 at 22:42 Johan H. Bodin wrote:

>Andy Talbot wrote:
>
>> By any reckoning this constitutes a QSO - even for contest purposes
>
>Ha-ha! LOL! ROTFL!
>
>I agree but do expect a comment or two from the north-east part of the UK!
>;-)
North-east?  My father-in-law (a Geordie) always insisted that Yorkshire was=
 part of the Midlands.

John Rabson=20
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On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 22:42:10 +0100
"Johan H. Bodin" <jh.bodin@telia.com> wrote:

> I agree but do expect a comment or two from the north-east part of
> the UK! ;-)


I think you mean the "north-east part of _England_"?

The QTH alluded to is actually in the _southern_ part of the UK

But we all know what you mean!

:-)



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Hello Marco, Laurence, Markus,
Many thanks for the reports!

73
Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV


> Hello Andrey,
> I copied you also ufb (but not that strong as Henny) last evening first in qrss60 then your call in dfcw.
> 
> Regards, 73
> Marco
> DD7PC


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Good copy AGC and YO this evening,
what are your conditions ? Andrey
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Jean-Pierre,

       I'm happy that you (and your antenna) survived the storm.
Thanks for the grabber, it is the best way for me to monitor my signal
especially now that there are no working grabbers in the US !

--=20
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
                WE2XEB/2
                WE2XGR/1


On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 4:24 AM, "Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 (F1AFJ)"
<jpm.f1afj@online.fr> wrote:
> Hi Warren ,
>
> The storm passed , the calm one returned ,
> I raised 127 km/h in my pylon 15 m in height !
> No damage here ( the grabber functioned
> during the night )
>
> 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj
>
> Warren Ziegler a =E9crit :
>>
>> Bonsoir Jean-Pierre,
>>
>>    I hope the wind does not damage your antenna!
>> Thank you for the report!
>> --
>> 73 Warren K2ORS
>>                WD2XGJ
>>                WD2XSH/23
>>                WE2XEB/2
>>                WE2XGR/1
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 6:27 PM, "Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 (F1AFJ)"
>> <jpm.f1afj@online.fr> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi Warren ,
>>>
>>> Hol=E0 ! very very stong signal now !!!!!
>>> Here the storm is very violent (110km/h)
>>> in this moment
>>>
>>> 73 qro Jean-Pierre
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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>> -
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>>
>
>



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Hi Al - In Costa Rica it will be just outside Turrialba and in Abu Dhabi pro=
bably Shah....but starting off in Abu for a while... cheers

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9 10:24:31 -0600Subject: RE: LF: Costa Rica Ops TI3

Laurence do you know the city you will be ?Thanks Al XE2AT

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 Ill be running LF/MF rx operations from Costa Rica from appx 15-20th March=20=
2009 from CATIE (Tropical Agricultural Research and Higher Education Center)=
 Turrialba Centro Costa Rica whilst I refurb the HF commercial station there=
 for Raleigh International, the Youth Development charity. I was last there=20=
in 2003 on LF http://www.kl1x.com/costa.jpg and this time I wont have the lo=
op but will be using a probe - but Im expecting better things than last time=
 as weve figured out a few tricks to improve the s/n/. Rx will be SDR IQ and=
 PA0RDT probe plus LDF's, which are an easier transit as Ill be in and out v=
ia China -  This location afforded an excellent path to Eu and Americas'  on=
 LF and even though we were surrounded by volcanic mountains I managed to wo=
rk Argentina on 6m nearly every night last time around. The coasts arent tha=
t far away either side... I wont have Tx (I think) but call will be as then=20=
TI3/ KL 1 X From June or so this coming year it looks like Ill be working ou=
t of Abu Dhabi A61 for a while - no chance of a license there so it seems bu=
t will try to get the rx system on line. Laurence BY3A/ KL1 X, G4DMA

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Hi Al - In Costa Rica it will be just outside Turrialba and in Abu Dhabi pro=
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&nbsp;<BR>Ill be running LF/MF rx operations from Costa Rica from appx 15-20=
th March 2009 from CATIE (Tropical Agricultural Research and Higher Educatio=
n Center) Turrialba Centro Costa Rica whilst I refurb the HF commercial stat=
ion there for Raleigh International, the Youth Development charity.<BR>&nbsp=
;<BR>I was last there in 2003 on LF <A href=3D"http://www.kl1x.com/costa.jpg=
">http://www.kl1x.com/costa.jpg</A>&nbsp;and this time I wont have the loop=20=
but will be using a probe - but Im expecting better things than last time as=
 weve figured out a few tricks to improve the s/n/. Rx will be SDR IQ and PA=
0RDT probe plus LDF's, which are an easier transit as Ill be in and out via=20=
China - <BR>&nbsp;<BR>This location afforded an excellent path to Eu and Ame=
ricas'&nbsp; on LF and even though we were surrounded by volcanic mountains=20=
I managed to work Argentina on 6m nearly every night last time around. The c=
oasts arent that far away either side...<BR>&nbsp;<BR>I wont have Tx (I thin=
k) but call will be as then TI3/ KL 1 X<BR>&nbsp;<BR>From June or so this co=
ming year it looks like Ill be working out of Abu Dhabi A61 for a while - no=
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Hi Andy,

Joe K1JT did something similar in v0.6 of the WSPR software. From the release notes:

"3. A better randomizing algorithm for deciding when to transmit.  (The
method used in v0.5 was "too random" for some people; the specified Tx
percentages worked out faithfully when averaged over a long time, but
not necessarily over half an hour or so.)"

You could have a look at the WSPR source code (available somewhere on the web, I
believe) or just ask K1JT.


73 Johan SM6LKM


Andy Talbot wrote:

> I'm looking for a half-decent way of generating a pseudo
> random Tx/Rx sequence with defined duty cycle that does
> not give the long(ish) consecutive runs of 0's or 1's that
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Hi Andy

Why not simply OR the xx% duty cycle with the PN sequence and suppress 
repeated TX sequences in a row? This should create something code 
compact and simple that lets you sleep at night that can be pretty easy 
to make appear 'random.'  Also add the ability to your code to allow the 
user to select their own seed word.

A 256bit LFSR sequence run over a WSPR period would take along time for 
someone to figure out a pattern. Larger sequences would only take abit 
more effort to code and if your writing in C no real effort at all.

I think Joe K1JT lost some sleep over this as well.  You should drop him 
a line as he is most helpful about such dialog.

I ran into similar aesthetic issues simulating fire light with  LFSRs  
years  ago and  found that  many of them  operating in tangent with each 
other produced very layered and real appearing effects.

Another solution I have tried is an ADC or clipper/clamp circuit on an 
input of the MCU and an inductorless Chua's circuit driving it... Period 
three implies Chaos. 
http://www.cpdee.ufmg.br/~MACSIN/services/papers/toraguel.pdf

gl es 73
Scott
VE7TIL

 

Andy Talbot wrote:
> Scott:
> Its precisely that an LFSR does not give what is needed that made me
> start thinking along these lines.   For one thing, LFSRs are only
> random if considered over the whole repeat length, viz  2 ^ N - 1 bit
> for a maximal length sequence.   They will have one single run of
> exactly N ones, and N-1 zeroes, and a predicatable numbers of runs of
> fewer successive equal bits.  It is a well established annoyance with
> these that short register lengths cannot be used to generate
> half-decent pseudo randomness
>
> What I was idly speculating on was a straightforward way of generating
> a semi-random sequence with deliberately limited continuous runs of
> ones or zeroes.  By forcing this aspect, the sequence cannot possibly
> be random. A ideal sequence would probably have very little
> statistical randomness at all.  But it sems to have turned out to be
> not at all straightforward.
>
> Eg 33% duty cycle with no randomisation
>       001001001001001001001001001001
> A true PN sequence at 33% could be like
>       010000111100100000001100101000
> which has an excessively long sequence of ones for WSPR Tx purposes
> A more optimised pattern might be
>       001010100001010100100010001010
> Apart from one bit, this one is actually a smaller pattern repeated.
>
> Which all comes down to the idea that its easiest to just generate (by
> inspection !) a set of precomputed tables - but that just feels like
> cheating and I feel dissatisfied with it :-)
>
> Andy
> www.g4jnt.com
>
>
>
> 2009/2/21 Scott Tilley <sthed475@telus.net>:
>   
>> Hi Andy
>>
>> Try a 'Linear Feedback Shift Register', Google it...
>>
>> Very simple to implement in a MCU and can be scaled to any size you like.  I
>> wrote some code to do this in PIC assembly years ago that was only a few
>> lines long for a 256bit sequence...
>>
>> Best of all you can predict the outcome and choose a sequence that meets
>> your needs given a unique seed word....
>>
>> Better yet it offers a means of identification over a long term integration
>> :-)
>>
>> 73 Scott
>> VE7TIL
>>
>>
>> Andy Talbot wrote:
>>     
>>> ...but if any mathematicians,  number theorists or cryptographers
>>> should be reading this...
>>>
>>> I've just got a WSPR generating routine running on a PIC / AD9852 /
>>> GPS combination, but I'm looking for a half-decent way of generating a
>>> pseudo random Tx/Rx sequence with defined duty cycle that does not
>>> give the long(ish) consecutive runs of 0's or 1's that MUST ALWAYS
>>> occasionally be seen in a truly random sequence.
>>>
>>> In other words, the sequence needs to be bandpass filtered.
>>>
>>> Before I cop-out and just use a pre-generated set of lookup tables,
>>> take a look at   http://www.g4jnt.com/WSPR_PN_Sequence.pdf
>>> for a fuller description of the mind-bender
>>>
>>>
>>> Andy  G4JNT
>>> www.g4jnt.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>       
>>     
>
>
>   


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Dear Nicolas, Alberto,

Yes, they certainly kept quiet about that one! I notice the web site says:

Unofficial transmissions
Unofficial transmissions may take place, due to maintenance, training or 
local events. Reports from unofficial transmissions are normally not 
rewarded by QSL cards.



Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU

>> Not bad reception of SAQ transmission this morning in JN08WN (my job)
>> Not QSB and not QRN,thanx to Lars and the Grimeton's team.
>>
>> *F4DTL /P Nicolas*
>
> There has been an SAQ transmission this morning ? I haven't seen it 
> advertised anywhere...
> May be I didn't pay enough attention...
>
> 73  Alberto  I2PHD
>
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> 



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Solid copy in JO67MR Andy, including the CW ID!


73
Johan SM6LKM

Andy Talbot wrote:
> 503.870 +23dBm ERP running now,  34.375% duty cycle ...
> 
> Andy  G4JNT
> www.g4jnt.com


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Thanks Henny!
-- 
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2009/2/12 henny van elst <cpm@planet.nl>:
> Hello Warren,LF
> capture XGJ
> Henny CPM
> 73S
> Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden
> verzonden:
> XGJ 12-02.jpg
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Have you tried adjusting the PCI bus settings in CMOS..?


----- Original Message ----- 
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Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 5:09 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: wspr and the over clocked sound card .. whats the final 
position ??


> Jordan
>
>
> The card is a PCI  ,   M - Audio Delta 4
>
> running with windows  xp-pro
>
> There are a selection of clock speeds .. but  it seems that when a 
> application runs . it defaults to the 44k setting .. but  for all other 
> software .. no problem .. works very well
>
> G ..
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Jordan" <outposter30@shaw.ca>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 11:59 PM
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Subject: LF: Re: wspr and the over clocked sound card .. whats the  final 
> position ??
>
>>
>> Is this for an on-board sound card, and if not, what type of bus is it 
>> on..?
>> 73...Jordan....
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 4:50 PM
>> Subject: LF: wspr and the over clocked sound card .. whats the final
>> position ??
>>
>>
>>>
>>> wspr and the over clocked sound card
>>>
>>> Was there a resolve to the  problem of the  short wspr  tx produced by a
>>> soundcard that was running  slightly  faster than it  should
>>>
>>> 1.5 seconds short .....  about 1 %
>>>
>>> , resulting in no decodes for strong signals .. presumably by providing
>>> too many sync's
>>>
>>> There is no way of changing the  sample  rate of the  card .. there is a
>>> option in the  driver . but  as soon as wspr  runs . the  card reverts 
>>> to
>>> the  normal 44 khz setting
>>>
>>> No problems with any of the  other  systems as the  card can be 
>>> calibrated
>>> (though not  needed)
>>>
>>> any  fixes or ideas ??
>>>
>>> tnx
>>>
>>> Graham ..
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>>
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>>
>
> 



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Jim,

Well  as far as I can see, its the number of tones in mt63 that cause the 
'peak' to  be so low .  however . looks like the mfsk16 is working very well 
...?

ive found decoding differences with fldig and  multipsk  .. nor sure why .. 
during some test s with Gary  multipsk did a better job .. but then ive run 
fldigi with the hf seup ads/usb card (now in use) and not had a problem ..

tnx -G ..

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From: "James Moritz" <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 8:51 PM
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Subject: LF: Re: If anyones about , MT63  x 500 Hz and Olivia 500 x 8 
running now 1935 hrs

>
> Dear Graham, LF Group,
>
> I have two instances of FLdigi running - getting some copy with Olivia:
>
> CQ CQ CQ 5~..g$o3d  g0nbd  g0nbd io79B i1E0a DE&&s
> Lbd  g0nbd  goD'j
> CENoQ C@oTt.g0nbda_<0nbdo
> bd  kkk
>
> The Olivia signal is faintly audible here, but the MT63 seems to be
> undetectable by any means! I will leave it running for a while, I expect
> signal levels will pick up later.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 7:39 PM
> Subject: LF: If anyones about , MT63 x 500 Hz and Olivia 500 x 8 running 
> now
> 1935 hrs
>
>
>> As a follow on to some tests  with Gary  , with Olivia  500 x 8 and the
>> original MT63 system
>
>
>



>
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
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> 



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Hi Mark, LF,

 

Received my new NoV today also.

 

I echo thanks to all who negotiated for the further 1 year extension.

 

Cheers

 

Gary - G4WGT.

 

  _____  

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Mark
Sent: 18 February 2009 11:42
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: New NOV

 

Gents

I am please to report that a new NOV for 500KHz just arrived.

The new NOV runs until 28 Feb 2010 and allows +10dBW,  501 to 504 KHz with
immediate effect.

 

Work will therefore start on the transverter here, though 10W ERP will not
be possible from this antenna.

Filed strengths will be too high and I may have serious voltage rating
issues.

 

Many thanks to all those quietly involved in the background in getting the
NOV extended

mark GM4ISM

www.dc2light.co.uk

 

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue;font-weight:bold'>Received
my new NoV today also.<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue;font-weight:bold'>I echo
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pan></font></b></p>

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G4WGT.<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

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<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Mark<br>
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Thanks for the capture Victor!
-- 
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
                WE2XEB/2
                WE2XGR/1


On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 3:23 AM,  <victor13@online.nl> wrote:
> HI Warren,lf
>
> good signal but a lot of qrm on this site,
>
> 73
>
> Victor



-- 
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
                WE2XEB/2
                WE2XGR/1


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Jay, LF,

I wonder if the WSPR TX is off at the moment, I see no one else has
decoded anything beyond 23:32 and the waterfall shows an abrubt ending
of a trace shortly into the 23:34 period.

Hope all is well!

John


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Hi Alan, Group.

Thanks for the encouragement! I'll battle with the elements to keep 
emitting long waves as long as it takes.  It's a good way of keeping 
oneself in shape, trudging up and down the hill with snow shoes,through
neck-deep snow drifts, felling with my trusty axe trees that dare to snag 
the antenna wire...

Keep up the great work with your forecasts.

73
Joe VO1NA

On Mon, 23 Feb 2009, Alan Melia wrote:

> Hi Joe well done on repairing your antenna. It seems as though the predicted
> coronal-hole event was very mild and should not affect LF propagation
> significantly. The outlook now is for good to very good night-time
> conditions on LF, allowing for the multi-path fading of course, over the
> rest of the week.
>
> Best Wishes
> Alan G3NYK
>
>
>
>


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Andy Talbot wrote:
> Has everybody had their 500kHz NoV extensions yet, or am I the only
> one not to receive it ?

Hello Andy,

Yes, even my NoV has reached this distant outpost of the Empire, so
looks like yours may be lost in transit, or you've upset the man from
OFCOM....

JOhn


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thanks Markus and Andrey
because of the QRH I stopped the transmission
regards
Uwe/dj8wx
PS. next days I have to change my email adr.

Zitat von Andrey rn3agc <rn3agc@mail.ru>:

> Argo in QRSS30
>
> 73
> Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV
>
>
>> Hello Uwe, Markus, LF,
>>
>> ...testing a new machine...
>> Argo in qrss3.
>>
>> 73
>> Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV
>>
>>
>>> ...seen on 136.316 tonight.  73 de DF6NM
>
>





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> No wasted power going into and out of the ground...

Dave

If you believe this I have a bridge you might be interested in purchasing...

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2     


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "dave.riley3" <dave.riley3@verizon.net>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>; <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 11:53 AM
Subject: LF: Re: LF Antennas - back to basics


> Glad you asked, Andy...  Hope this one makes it past the spam filter...
> 
> Back in the commercial AM transmitter biz days I buried miles of extra 
> copper in to poor conductivity soil and gained little or nothing.
> Then came Bill Ashloop who proved that a small transmit loop can do quite 
> well.
> http://www.wireless.org.uk/loopy.htm
> http://www.w1tag.com/XESANT.htm
> 
> So I surveryed the back yard which sits on very poor conductivity soil and 
> therefore makes a loop appear to me more in free space and here are the 
> advantages that I have found to date:
> 
> No high voltage wire ends to start tree fires. No wasted power going into 
> and out of the ground...
> 
> Much less wire used in a LOOP transmit antenna. This #4 stranded HV wire 
> rests inside of 100' sections of garden hose and is hoisted into trees with 
> help of compound bow and pull line.
> 
> No top loading, no radials, much less noise on RX, E-Z to tune and weather 
> does not affect the tuning much such as from rain or snow, and it acts like 
> a good vertical regardless of being much simpler.
> 
> As for the CONS, well I just don't think of any...  Somebody??
> 
> It works very well from 600M to 6M and is the only real antenna that I still 
> have.
> 
> Various feeds as noted below will let you tune it down to SAQ@17kc which I 
> always hear and also makes for superb DX on 6M in 'some directions'.
> 
> ref: http://www.radiocom.net/600M/LOOP109.jpg
> 
> Wish I had a El-Nec printout but can't seem to fit this version in to it.
> 
> QSL SURE VIA E-MAIL
> 090226 0406   1 -29  0.0   0.503869  G4JNT IO90 23
> 090226 0610   3 -29  0.0   0.503869  G4JNT IO90 23
> 
> Have a quiet night and TNX from Dave @ WD2XSH/17
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Andy Talbot" <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 11:16 AM
> Subject: LF: LF Antennas - back to basics
> 
> 
>> Having now been encouraged by being decoded now by at least two US
>> stations,  was wondering how much improvement in efficiency I could
>> scrape out of my existing antenna.  It is a Marconi Tee, the vertical
>> element consisting of three wires from the base tapering to 200mm
>> spacing at the top.  There it is attached to the centre of a a
>> capacity hat 15m long and 200mm wide made of three parallel wires.
>>
>> The ground system is a bit haphazard in my 7m wide by 12m long garden,
>> with about 4 wires meeting at the base of the antenna meandering
>> around the garden, starting off in different directions from teh base.
>> They are all connected to substantial ground rods in heavy clay  at
>> their far points, a with a few randomly spaced rods in between (I used
>> several 1m lengths of 15mm water pipe as well as proper rods - there
>> is probably about 9 or 10 rods in total, mostly 1 - 2m in length -
>> can't remember that far back!   Some of the earth conductors were also
>> bonded to the house wiring by a couple of substantial straps, and even
>> inside the house I added more straps at strategic places.   I also
>> ensured there was a good fat cable run directly under as much of the
>> capacity hat as possible.   As a test, disconnecting the PME earthing
>> bond and measuring the DC resistance between my total set of
>> connections and the incoming conductor ground/neutral point, the value
>> was a pretty consistent 3 ohms.  Haven't done this test for a few
>> years, but at the last check it was still of this order.
>>
>> Back in the 73kHz days a number of (mostly big!) stations were
>> surprised my signal was as strong as it was for probably the smallest
>> antenna in use then; G3LDO put it down to the fact I had concentrated
>> plenty of earthing wire to run directly under the top-hat.
>>
>> But, its all 14 years old,  still OK, but hopefully there's a wealth
>> of experience now, and I wonder if there are obvious improvements that
>> could be made:
>>
>> Firstly, bearing in mind there is no scope whatsoever to raise one end
>> of the capacity hat which is defined by the apex of the house roof,
>> and the other end would also need some major sugery to raise its heigh
>> substantially, that only leaves the middle, ie the height of the
>> actual radiator.    It wouldn't be too difficult to raise this to 10m
>> or even more with a fibreglass pole, but will I be throwing away all
>> the advantage by having the top-hat drooping down to 7m?
>>
>> Secondly, pictures of other peoples antennas aften show a substantial
>> grounding plate immediately under and around the antenna base.  Just
>> how far out is is worth going with a really substantial base.   I
>> could cut more conductors into the ground; while the ground is still
>> is still soggy in March may be a good time to do this.
>>
>> Any ideas please ...?
>>
>>
>> Andy  G4JNT
>> www.g4jnt.com
>> 
> 
>


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Hello Jay, LFers,

First indication of signal was at 2212Z, both on the WSPR computer
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Hi Chris, LF,
Capture last night in 00.02z.

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Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV

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Subject: Re: LF: Re: Fldig Farq  mfsk16  beacon  503 Khz  pls try connect ?
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Ok Jim

I did see a  mfsk  signal hf of myself and gary  ? I am in qso  with gary 
using the falq .. but it looks to  be a little fragile
looks like you will need to  copy all the beacon text  for the signal to  be 
usable in the arq mode

amtor would be better with the 3 letters a time . I could  rig up the pk232 
.. but who ealse has one ?

tnx - G ..

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From: "James Moritz" <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>
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Subject: LF: Re: Fldig Farq  mfsk16  beacon  503 Khz  pls try connect ?

>
> Dear Graham,
>
> Well, I think it is set up OK, but at the moment your beacon signal is 
> very
> weak and not getting much copy here - so far your callsign has not 
> appeared
> in the FLARQ callsign window, which is what I think should happen. I will
> monitor your sigs until hopefully they get a bit stronger later on.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
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Hi, Jay, LF,

I don't know when you stopped, but here is another sample of the decodes
(best of the bunch). I guess you'd call that a copy!

Fantastic! Did anyone else hear it?

BURLIN2QT FN31IETTESTING PSKF31...
WE9DI3EB 4NRI5 L1 O TESTING PSKFEC59...
WE2XETR/2 BURLINGTON CT FN31IS TESTING PSKFEC3/NE0WE2XGR/2 BURLINGTON CT
FN31IS TESTING PSKFEC31..WE2XGR/2 BURLINGTON CT FN31IRSGSTING PSKFEC31...
WE2XGR A2 BURLINGTON CT FN39IS TESTINGIRSKFEC31L.
WE2XGR/2 B RLINGTON-FFN31IS TESTING PSRFEC31...
WE2XGR/2 BURLINGTON CT FN31IS TESTING PSKFEC31...
WE2XGR/2 BURLINGTON CT FN31IS TESTINGEBSKFEC&JT..
WE2XGR/2 B KLINGTON CT FN31IS TESTING PSKFEC31...
WE2XGR/2 BURLINGTON CT FN31IS TESTING PSKFEC31...
WE2XGR/2 BURLINGTON CT FN31IS TESTINGRAAAFEC31...
WE2XGR/2 BURLINGTON CT FN31IS TESTING PSKFEC31...
WE2XGR/2 BURLINGTON CT FN31IS TESTING PSKFEC31...
WE2XGR/2 BURLINGTON CT  :IT8)M PSKFEC31...
WE2XGR/2 BURLTOGTON CT   ICXTT8 NE2ISHETTOTEETING BSK TEC31

Cheers, Mike G7AQA

-----Original Message-----
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jrusgrove@comcast.net
Sent: 06 February 2009 16:42
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Subject: LF: WE2XGR/2 in PSKFEC31

WE2XGR/2 will be transmitting in PSKFEC31 mode tonight on 508.5 kHz starting
2130Z and will continue until at least 0100Z and perhaps beyond.

PSKFEC31 (PSK31 with forward error correction) can be decoded with the
colorful program MultiPSK - available at http://www.f6cte.free.fr/ . 
Sunglasses are recommended for the first time user. As far as I know there
are no other programs that can decode this mode. If anyone has info to the
contrary please advise.

Some background info on PSKFEC31 and other digital modes as well as tests
run by W1TAG and myself can be found at http://www.w1tag.com/600M_Modes.htm
.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2 




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Is there anyone in QSO mode during daytime on MF/LF. There is plenty of scop=
e for propagation experiments daytime with the new 10w erp UK power.
I would like to check the QSB aspect if anyone is interested. I can copy DI2=
AM all day without any noticeable QSB because of his power output.=20
I expect the reciprocal is true from the UK around EU with the higher UK pow=
er.=20
All reports and QSO'S appreciated. Also QAP on 7033 khz for xband, this is a=
lso a good night time freq for TR xband QSO'S.
73 de Mal.G3KEV
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Is there anyone in QSO mode during daytime=20=
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10w erp UK power.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I would like to check the&nbsp;QSB aspect i=
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o QAP on=20
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Jim

Will move up to 508.53.

Jay


----- Original Message ----- 
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> Dear Jay, LF Group,
> 
> Would it be possible to QSY to slightly above last night's frequency - say 
> to 508.52 or 508.53kHz RF? You would then be clear of the " intermittent CW" 
> noise I am getting here on 508.50kHz.
> 
> As before, I have two RXs running here, on 502.4kHz and 507kHz "dial 
> frequency".
> 
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
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> To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
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> 
>> Confirming start of WSPR transmission 2030Z on 507.000 dial frequency.
>>
>> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>> 
> 
>


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Hmm... I don't know Andy, my local environment is very quiet at the moment but
it could also be a trick of the ionosphere... My aerial tonight is far from
optimal on 600m. It is a horizontal dipole for 80m (actually an FD-4 windom with
the original balun) about 10m above GND. I just checked the noise floor and it
is -128dBm with the antenna connected and -131dBm with a 50 ohm dummy load, both
in a 230Hz BW, so your signal is very close to the RX noise floor here... The
S/N of your signal would surely be a few dB better if I had a decent aerial.

Thanks for the signal.

73
Johan SM6LKM

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Andy Talbot skrev:
> That's very interesting -  I appear to be 10 - 15dB better S/N with
> you Johan (-5db S/N) at 1200km, than with GM4ISM (-20dB S/N) at 577km.
> 
> Background noise levels ?
> Sea path ?
> 
> Andy  G4JNT
> www.g4jnt.com



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<BR>&nbsp;At 2250z Feb 24th CW on&nbsp; 500kHz from XSV - first time Ive hea=
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Hi Joe and All,
nice capture VO1NA,
Henny cpm
best 73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
VO1NA 17-02.jpg

Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld.

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Joe and All,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>nice capture VO1NA,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Henny cpm</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>best 73s</FONT></DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het 
volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:<BR>VO1NA 
17-02.jpg<BR><BR>Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging 
tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet 
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Hi Joe,
nothing seen
Henny cpm
73s

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.... quite good! 73 de Markus, DF6NM

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Hi Warren,Lf,
a very litlle trace,
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Warren,Lf,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>a very litlle trace,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>henny cpm</FONT></DIV>
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2009/2/24 Lubos OK2BVG <bvgbob@hotmail.com>:
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> Not very good propagations this morning here. Band was noisy.
>
> Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS
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TNX Rik,

Both he and DI2AM were not doing so well as local snow storm noise was very 
high, but the neutron density @ 
http://dx.qsl.net/propagation/propagation.html was over 12.0

Could see strong signal with long dashes and probably CW ID but it was all 
sliced up with QRN hits.

Dave




----- Original Message ----- 
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Subject: Re: LF: SIGS on 503.95


> Dave,
>
> l believe that G3XIZ was transmitting QRSS30 on that frequency, saw him on 
> Gary's grabber.
>
> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
>
> BTW: inter-Europe condx seemed very good yesterday:
> DI & OK beacons were booming as was SK6RUD.
> Also good copy of GI4DPE beacon (peaking 579)
> Strong (599+) daytime copy of G3KEV, obviously enjoying the new 10W ERP 
> privileges
>
>
> At 03:07 20/02/2009, you wrote:
>>UNID QRSS on 503.950 now, too much QRN
>>
>>
>>TNX
>>
>>Dave @ WD2XSH/17
>>
>>
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Hi Jean-Pierre,

     That was not me at 23:20, I was not on at all last night!
I have been off the past two days because of weather and 160m operation.
--=20
73 Warren K2ORS
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> XGJ, just a short test @ 23:20 ! Warren are you always in QRP ?
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> 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj
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You'll have to  add a bit of  decision making logic that looks for the not 
allowed conditions ... but if its really random, as the hitch hikers guide 
to the galaxy tells us .. anything  could  happen , to quote  ' MUST ALWAYS 
occasionally be seen' looks like 'it' has  started already ...

'Don't Panic'

G ..

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shouldn't be allowed here!

>
> ...but if any mathematicians,  number theorists or cryptographers
> should be reading this...
>
> I've just got a WSPR generating routine running on a PIC / AD9852 /
> GPS combination, but I'm looking for a half-decent way of generating a
> pseudo random Tx/Rx sequence with defined duty cycle that does not
> give the long(ish) consecutive runs of 0's or 1's that MUST ALWAYS
> occasionally be seen in a truly random sequence.
>
> In other words, the sequence needs to be bandpass filtered.
>
> Before I cop-out and just use a pre-generated set of lookup tables,
> take a look at   http://www.g4jnt.com/WSPR_PN_Sequence.pdf
> for a fuller description of the mind-bender
>
>
> Andy  G4JNT
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>
>



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XGR faded out here at 0840Z, 20 minutes after local sunrise

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

Quoting Andy Talbot <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>:

> Heavy snow (by our standards!) in S England, so took the opportunity
> to not bother going into work and to carry on logging.
>
> The signal has been pretty consistent at -20dB +/- 4  since switch-on
> at 0640, and has now risen by about 10dB S/N at 0720.  There is now
> local QRM, and that suggests the signal strength increase is actually
> greater still - certainly appears so from the SpectraVue waterfall
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>
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Hello Henny, Victor,
Thanks for the reports!

73
Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV


> Hi Lf,
> capture AGC
> Henny cpm
> 73s
> Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
> AGC 21-02.jpg
>
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OK G

00Z will be past the first anticipated peak...

Working down in uW range is not only economical but it gets the noise out 
too...

TNX


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 4:22 PM
Subject: LF: RE: WSPRs


> Hi Dave, LF,
>
> I will probably close down about 0000utc + or -.
>
> Only about 5 watts RF to antenna, frequency 503.915KHz.
>
> 73
>
> Gary - G4WGT.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of dave.riley3
> Sent: 22 February 2009 21:10
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> Cc: 600MRG
> Subject: LF: WSPRs
>
> DE WD2XSH/17 tuned for WSPRs from G4JNT and G4WGT on or about 503.900 +/-
> 100HZ.
>
> Please advise your quitting times, else will let it run all night...
>
> TNX
>
> Dave
>
>
> re:
> http://wsprnet.org/meptspots.php?mode=html&band=2190&limit=50&findcall=&find
> reporter=&sort=date
>
>
>
> 



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Hello Andy, Group,

are you still transmitting?

Vy 73 de Gerhard  /  DK6NI

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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von Andy Talbot
Gesendet: Montag, 23. Februar 2009 22:38
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Betreff: LF: WSPR - a philosophical question.

Mostly in Jest, but food for thought...

The WSPR database with its complete record of who has heard whom with
date, time , frequency, locator, report and stated Tx power opens up
an interesting philosophical concept.

If the database records that A has heard B, and B has heard A, then
the stations have exchanged reports, location and a piece of unique
information.   By any reckoning this constitutes a QSO - even for
contest purposes.   So now, I don't have to sit in front of a rig
waffling or tapping,  or even be in the shack, or even awake, to have
a valid QSO.   I can be on continuously, 24/7/52.14775  to take
advantage of lifts and anti-social-hours propagation.

Lets do this on all the bands!  Choose a modulation type matched to
the RF medium and bandwidth, and just get on with it.
Throw away those microphones, and definitely those funny tappy 19th
centuary things.

There is one downside: a permanant internet connection to upload
real-time reports.   BUT this could even herald a rebirth for packet
radio if local amateurs could set up simple forwarding nodes to
suitable internet connections?


Andy  G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com




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On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 19:02:42 -0000
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> Follow on from last night 
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> Running Fldig in 'farq'  mode at 503 Khz centre frequency 
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> Beacon  set every 60  seconds 
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Have grabber showing 501 - 503.3

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Subject: RE: LF: If anyones about , MT63  x 500 Hz and Olivia 500 x 8  >MODE CHANGE<2100 hrs>
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Graham, LF,

Whilst I am still hearing both modes since inserting a 20dB attenuator the
MT63 sounds very much lower in the audio than Olivia. Olivia is printing
about 90pc & MT63 just the odd word or two in each over, not sufficient copy
for a QSO.

Gary - G4WGT.



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CHANGE<2100 hrs>

Mode change

>From the initial reports it looks like the MT63 system is not as robust at 
the olivia 500 x 8

I will  change the MT63  mode to  MFSK16  , at  1000 Hz audio cent , ( 502 
Khz  rf cent )

As mfsk will pass via a non linear system , this may be of wider interest

Change time  >>> 2100 Hrs gmt <<<<

tnx - G ..



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>
> Nb . no rx cycle
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
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> now 1935 hrs
>
>>
>> As a follow on to some tests  with Gary  , with Olivia  500 x 8 and the
>> original MT63 system
>>
>> Running  two  data streams now at about 10  watts per mode , carrier
>> frequencies are :-
>>
>> mt63   501.5 to  502 Khz
>>
>> olivia 500x8  503 Khz +/-  250 Hz
>>
>> The book says mt63 should not print as well as olivia .....
>>
>> tnx - G ..
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
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>>
>> No virus found in this incoming message.
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SRI folks, the 600 Watt PA has now been sold.

...and to the several who asked if it would go at 500kHz, the answer
is 'No'.  At least as it stood; the transformers would have to be
rewound with 3 - 4 times the number of turns and it really is a bit
OTT using VHF fets at 0.5MHz  (sez he who uses a 200W 0.5 to 40MHz BB
amp for 500k :-)

Andy  G4JNT
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Henny,

   Thanks for the capture!
-- 
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
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2009/2/26 henny van elst <cpm@planet.nl>:
> capture xgj
> henny cpm
> 73s Warren
> Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden
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Dear all,

I am a bit fuzzed by the SNR values given by WSPR, in particular with  
strong signals.
SM6BHZ is right now loud and clear, CW could be easy to copy and Gus  
could even give SSB a try. But WSPR is giving SNR values between -7  
and +4 dB.

What I noticed is that the SM6BZH signal raises the "noise level"  
given by WSJT7 by about 6dB (-3dB in absense of the signal, +3dB  
otherwise). I noticed the same effect with M0BMU some days ago. Maybe  
that causes the poor SNR?

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Hi Joe and LF,
Capture VO1NA,
Henny CPM
Best 73s
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Hi LF!

Coming back home I switched on the radio tuned to 189kHz.
I'm regularely observing this RUV transmitter Gufuskálar since 16.Jan.2009,  getting "a propagation feeling" on this path. 

Liste

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Hello ,

XGJ, just a short test @ 23:20 ! Warren are you always in QRP ?

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Ok Rik,

Yes ... hihi

Running

USB Dial  freq - 501.000  Khz

olivia  250 x 8  centre freq      2000  Hz audio    503 Khz  rf

MFSK  16  centre freq  1000 Hz audio     502Khz rf

Tnx - G ...



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From: "Rik Strobbe" <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
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>
> Graham,
>
> I just installed multipsk.
> I believe it is the most chaotic programme I have ever seen.
>
> Right now 21:28UTC I hear alternating signals on 502 and 503.
>
> As I am not in the mood of reading the multipsk manual today could you
> just tell me what mode is running where and what dial frequency / mode
> (USB or LSB) I should set the RX to?
>
> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
>
> Quoting Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>:
>
>> Modes changed
>>
>> MT63   STOPPED
>>
>> MFSK16 ,  Centre freq   1000 Hz audio
>>
>> Approx  15 watts peak per stream
>>
>> Thanks for reports .. will run this config  an hour or so
>>
>> G ..
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 7:39 PM
>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Subject: LF: If anyones about , MT63  x 500 Hz and Olivia 500 x 8
>> running now 1935 hrs
>>
>>>
>>> As a follow on to some tests  with Gary  , with Olivia  500 x 8 and the
>>> original MT63 system
>>>
>>> Running  two  data streams now at about 10  watts per mode , carrier
>>> frequencies are :-
>>>
>>> mt63   501.5 to  502 Khz
>>>
>>> olivia 500x8  503 Khz +/-  250 Hz
>>>
>>> The book says mt63 should not print as well as olivia .....
>>>
>>> tnx - G ..
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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Thanks Henny!
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>
> very good signal 5:40z
>
> 73
>
> Victor



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=20
Our "data" signal was pretty strong on 139Khz this morning -
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 Long Haul is pretty fair to only average towards Eu with both utility stati=
ons (DCF39 and Budapest) around 20dB above noise at times.=20

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I did a short .wav recording of this "new" signal http://www.kl1x.com/139.wa=
v  you can hear DCF39 tone in the background. Is this Ankara running a new m=
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=20
Good signals from the Russian overnight - at their request Ill be slowing to=
 dot 120 tonight - stitched shot at http://kl1x.com/1.jpg
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Regards Laurence
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&nbsp;<BR>Our "data" signal was pretty strong on 139Khz this morning -<BR>&n=
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utility stations (DCF39 and Budapest) around 20dB above noise at times. <BR>
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I did a short .wav recording of this "new" signal <A href=3D"http://www.kl1x=
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I'll be running the WSPR beacon again tonight, from around 1900 UTC -
or perhaps a little earlier.
Frequency 503.870kHz centre, 33% duty cycle (based on a 32 frame repeat cycle).

There's a CW ident at the end of each frame.
OOPS bandplan error, CW in the WSPR segment, DON'T PANIC!
(It lies in the dead time segment when no-one should be transmitting)

Andy  G4JNT
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Rik and group

Confirming start at 2130Z.

Downloaded Stream earlier and was unable to get it to work. MultiPSK works fine. May very well be 
cockpit error. Will  look into it.

Jay


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From: "Rik Strobbe" <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
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> Jay,
>
> It just downloaded / installed stream (IZ8BLY).
> RX / PC is on 508.5 overnight
>
> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
>
> Quoting jrusgrove@comcast.net:
>
>> WE2XGR/2 will be transmitting in MFSK8 mode on 508.5 kHz from 2130Z -
>> 0000Z tonight. Reports are appreciated.
>>
>> When using MultiPSK as the decoder be advised that the program has been
>> known to occasionally go on 'walkabout' after loss of signal. Stopping
>> and restarting the decoder seems to solve the problem.
>>
>> Jay  W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>
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Hello Jay,Tx is stopped ? nothing now.
 
 
F4DTL  Nicolas JN18FP

RX : Icom IC7400
Ant: Wellbrook LFL 1010

_http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/_ (http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/) 

 
 
090201 2250   4 -26  0.7   0.508530  WE2XGR  FN31 57         
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Dr Mal !
Tnx for QRSS / QSO yesterday!! It was my first QRSS /QSO !! Ur Sigs are 
ufb ( T ) 15dB oN . Hope we have CW /QSO agn! My rig TX : homebrew abt 
500 Watts, Ant: GP 14 m high, toploadet, RX : Teletron TE 704c
VY 73 es 55
Arnim DL1EIE


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...but if any mathematicians,  number theorists or cryptographers
should be reading this...

I've just got a WSPR generating routine running on a PIC / AD9852 /
GPS combination, but I'm looking for a half-decent way of generating a
pseudo random Tx/Rx sequence with defined duty cycle that does not
give the long(ish) consecutive runs of 0's or 1's that MUST ALWAYS
occasionally be seen in a truly random sequence.

In other words, the sequence needs to be bandpass filtered.

Before I cop-out and just use a pre-generated set of lookup tables,
take a look at   http://www.g4jnt.com/WSPR_PN_Sequence.pdf
for a fuller description of the mind-bender


Andy  G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com


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Hi all,

for a couple of days, I have been hearing / seeing a CW beacon from DF5QZ on=
 137.227 kHz, well readable here at about 2 =B5V/m.

Good luck and have a nice Sunday,

Markus,=20
DF6NM in Nuerberg, JN59NK

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi all,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>for a couple of days, I have been hearing /=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Markus, </FONT></DIV>
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Hi Warren,
capture XGJ
Henny cpm
73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
XGJ 07-02.jpg

Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld.

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Warren,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>capture XGJ</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Henny cpm</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>73s</FONT></DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het volgende 
bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:<BR>XGJ 07-02.jpg<BR><BR>Opmerking: 
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Hi Warren,lf,

good copy of your signal 

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HELLO ALL,

JUST ONE "g"down here,

73

Victor

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens "Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9
(F1AFJ)"
Verzonden: vrijdag 20 februari 2009 8:44
Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Onderwerp: LF: [ 137 kHz ] LF T/A , XGJ



Hello ,

XGJ, just a short test @ 23:20 ! Warren are you always in QRP ?

73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj



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Well only in confusion can gain be made ........

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From: "John P-G" <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk>
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>
> On Wed, 04 Feb 2009 22:32:21 +0100
> Rik Strobbe <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be> wrote:
>
>> I just installed multipsk.
>> I believe it is the most chaotic programme I have ever seen.
>
> That's the truth!
>
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Henny,  Victor, Lubos, Markus,

   Thanks all for the reports and captures for the past two nights!

-- 
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2009/2/22 henny van elst <cpm@planet.nl>:
> Hi Warren,lf
> capture XGJ
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Thanks I will  add the attenuators later hi , I will leave it running for a 
while at this level .. Rik did say he could see the streams .. so hopefully 
he might get some decodes , John as well is looking on from up north ..

G ...

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From: "Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
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>
> Hi Graham, LF.
>
> Both modes printing at 100pc but I am too close to make any comparison at
> these strengths.
>
> If someone from a greater distance can set up two instances of Multipsk &
> monitor both together & report here on LF that would be ideal.
>
> 73
>
> Gary - G4WGT.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham
> Sent: 04 February 2009 19:39
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> Subject: LF: If anyones about , MT63 x 500 Hz and Olivia 500 x 8 running 
> now
> 1935 hrs
>
> As a follow on to some tests  with Gary  , with Olivia  500 x 8 and the
> original MT63 system
>
> Running  two  data streams now at about 10  watts per mode , carrier
> frequencies are :-
>
> mt63   501.5 to  502 Khz
>
> olivia 500x8  503 Khz +/-  250 Hz
>
> The book says mt63 should not print as well as olivia .....
>
> tnx - G ..
>
>
>
>
>
>
>



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Mechanical considerations
50turns of 5mm wire base loaded coil is more efficient than 100 turns of 1mm=
 wire centre or top loaded to resonate the same vertical.=20
I have experienced this on 160m  mobile loading coils years ago.
Of course if your vertical would take the strain of 100 turns of 10mm centre=
 or top loaded you would gain on Rr of maybe 0.00037 ohms on 500 khz.
g3kev

  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 6:16 PM
  Subject: LF: Ground system


  MF
  A couple of elevated insulated radials will out perform dozens of buried r=
adials, in fact 1 radial is vy effective, even insulated radials lying above=
 ground are also efficient.=20
  I use 2 insulated 1/4 wave elevated radials on 500 khz and several lying o=
n the ground for 137 khz.
  Using a loading coil in an elevated position on a vertical helps but remem=
ber twice as many turns are required as opposed to base loading hence more r=
esistance, you might not be gaining as much advantage as you think.
  de mal/g3kev



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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mechanical considerations</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>50turns of 5mm wire base loaded coil is mor=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have experienced this on 160m &nbsp;mobil=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Of course if your vertical would take the s=
train of=20
100 turns of 10mm centre or top loaded you would gain on Rr of maybe 0.00037=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>g3kev</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>MF</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>A couple of elevated insulated radials wi=
ll out=20
  perform dozens of buried radials, in fact 1 radial is vy effective, even=20
  insulated radials lying above ground are also efficient. </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I use 2 insulated 1/4 wave elevated radia=
ls on=20
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Using a loading coil in an elevated posit=
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  as you think.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>de mal/g3kev</FONT></DIV>
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Dear Jay, Rik, LF Group,

Getting pretty consistent copy of WE2XGR now, give or take the usual QSB - I 
seem to be back in business for the time being.

Re the odd minutes - DF6NM noticed that this happened when "Dtime" was set 
to a positive value to adjust the clock. Mine is set to +1.5 seconds at the 
moment.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU

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strange: Jim (BMU) is reporting on the odd minute at wsprnet.org




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Hi Andy

Try a 'Linear Feedback Shift Register', Google it...

Very simple to implement in a MCU and can be scaled to any size you 
like.  I wrote some code to do this in PIC assembly years ago that was 
only a few lines long for a 256bit sequence...

Best of all you can predict the outcome and choose a sequence that meets 
your needs given a unique seed word....

Better yet it offers a means of identification over a long term 
integration :-)

73 Scott
VE7TIL


Andy Talbot wrote:
> ...but if any mathematicians,  number theorists or cryptographers
> should be reading this...
>
> I've just got a WSPR generating routine running on a PIC / AD9852 /
> GPS combination, but I'm looking for a half-decent way of generating a
> pseudo random Tx/Rx sequence with defined duty cycle that does not
> give the long(ish) consecutive runs of 0's or 1's that MUST ALWAYS
> occasionally be seen in a truly random sequence.
>
> In other words, the sequence needs to be bandpass filtered.
>
> Before I cop-out and just use a pre-generated set of lookup tables,
> take a look at   http://www.g4jnt.com/WSPR_PN_Sequence.pdf
> for a fuller description of the mind-bender
>
>
> Andy  G4JNT
> www.g4jnt.com
>
>
>   


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Spoilt here by -60dBm peaking noise from lightning courtesy of a cyclone loo=
king object spinning to the East of Japan but Budapest and DCF39 reaching 40=
dB over noise at times with RTTY sigs meshed between them makes for interest=
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nditions here over the 8-10K Kms paths towards Eu.
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Hallo Walter,
der Winter und damit die guten Ausbreitungsbedingungen sind bald vorbei.
Ich denke, das es nicht schlecht wäre diese Zeit für WSPR zu nutzen.
Nachdem du dich anscheinend noch nicht für WSPR auf MW entscheiden 
konntest mache ich einen Vorschlag.
Ich betreibe für kurze Zeit unter deinem MW-Call meine Anlage zusammen 
mit WSPR.
Ich müsste sie natürlich auch in der Mailinglist publik machen.
Die Verwendung können wir für jeden Tag neu festlegen. Ich denke das 
Ganze sollte nicht länger als eine Woche sein.
Bitte denke einmal darüber nach.
Grüße
Roland

Walter und Marianne Staubach schrieb:
> Hallo MW
> 2104 G4JNT -22 IO90 23        congrats
>  
> 73 Walter DI2AG JN59NO
>  



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SM6BHZ now on 504.500  WSPR  peaking +15 out of noise...

Not too shabby for 1W erp...


090203 2224  16 -14 -0.2   0.504498  SM6BHZ JO57 30         =20
090203 2226  19 -12 -0.1   0.504498  SM6BHZ JO57 30         =20
090203 2228  19 -13 -0.2   0.504498  SM6BHZ JO57 30 =20


TNX

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<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=3D2>SM6BHZ now on 504.500&nbsp; WSPR&nbsp; peaking +=
15 out=20
of noise...</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=3D2>Not too shabby for 1W erp...</FONT></STRONG></DI=
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<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=3D2>090203 2224&nbsp; 16 -14 -0.2&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
0.504498&nbsp; SM6BHZ JO57=20
30&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <BR>090203 2226&nbs=
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<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=3D2>TNX</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=3D2>Dave/17</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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Gents
I am please to report that a new NOV for 500KHz just arrived.
The new NOV runs until 28 Feb 2010 and allows +10dBW,  501 to 504 KHz with i=
mmediate effect.

Work will therefore start on the transverter here, though 10W ERP will not b=
e possible from this antenna.
Filed strengths will be too high and I may have serious voltage rating issue=
s.

Many thanks to all those quietly involved in the background in getting the N=
OV extended
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Gents</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am please to report that a new NOV for 50=
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just arrived.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The new NOV runs until 28 Feb 2010 and allo=
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+10dBW, &nbsp;501 to 504 KHz with immediate effect.</FONT></DIV>
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r here,=20
though 10W ERP will not be possible from this antenna.</FONT></DIV>
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serious voltage rating issues.</FONT></DIV>
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Hello Warren, LF!
Nice signal last night.

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Before I investigate the intricacies of Ebay for the first time...

http://www.g4jnt.com/ForSale/600Watt_PA.htm

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Dear Jay, LF Group,

Unfortunately, no reception of WE2XGR here last night - the problem appears 
to be a change in local broad-band QRM, which has brought up the noise floor 
by about 20dB, with the addition of something that sounds like intermittent 
CW within a few Hz of your frequency adding a further 10dB. The noise seems 
to be on an approximately E-W bearing from my QTH, which means I cannot null 
it with a simple loop without also nulling your signal. So unfortunately, 
this will probably prevent further copy of signals from  the US until I get 
a chance to investigate further, or until it goes away of its own accord.

I decided to leave the M0BMU WSPR beacon off, since everyone seemed to be 
tuned to 508.5kHz!

Cheers, Jim Moritz
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Hello Jay, LFers,

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Henny, Lubos, Victor,

   Thank you for the captures of my brief transmission!
-- 
73 Warren K2ORS
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                WE2XEB/2
                WE2XGR/1




2009/2/14 henny van elst <cpm@planet.nl>:
> Hi Warren,Lf,
> capture XGJ
> Henny cpm
> 73s
> Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden
> verzonden:
> XGJ 14-02.jpg
>
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Hi Henny , Joe , LF ,

Just a traces last night !

73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

henny van elst a =E9crit :
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> Capture VO1NA,
> Henny CPM
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                WE2XEB/2
                WE2XGR/1


2009/2/26 Lubos OK2BVG <bvgbob@hotmail.com>:
> Hello Warren, LF!
> See XGJ signal this morning.
>
> Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS
>
> ________________________________
> St=E1hn=ECte si zcela nov=FD Messenger 2009! Klikni zde!

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Are they being automatically extended, or is reapplication necessary ?

Andy  G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com



2009/2/18 Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>:
> Hi Mark, LF,
>
>
>
> Received my new NoV today also.
>
>
>
> I echo thanks to all who negotiated for the further 1 year extension.
>
>
>
> Cheers
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> Gary =96 G4WGT.
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>
> ________________________________
>
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Mark
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>
>
> Gents
>
> I am please to report that a new NOV for 500KHz just arrived.
>
> The new NOV runs until 28 Feb 2010 and allows +10dBW,  501 to 504 KHz with
> immediate effect.
>
>
>
> Work will therefore start on the transverter here, though 10W ERP will not
> be possible from this antenna.
>
> Filed strengths will be too high and I may have serious voltage rating
> issues.
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>
>
> Many thanks to all those quietly involved in the background in getting the
> NOV extended
>
> mark GM4ISM
>
> www.dc2light.co.uk
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>
> Grabber and WSPR decoder  24/7 subject to external influences (eg 3 days
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Dear all,

I just received a mail from Mori, JH1GVY, who is trying to put 136kHz 
on the map in Japan.
They expect to get 135.7-137.8kHz with 1 W EIRP soon (april 2009).
Mori is looking for a working e-mail adress of Christer, SM6PJX.

73, Rik  ON7YD


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Henny, Marco, Lubos, Victor,

   Thanks all for the reports and captures!
WD2XGJ was back at full power last night (QRO 1.3kW).

-- 
73 Warren K2ORS
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2009/2/6 henny van elst <cpm@planet.nl>:
> Hi Warren,
> Capture XGJ and RA3YO
> Henny CPM
> Best 73s
> Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden
> verzonden:
> XGJ -YO-06-02.jpg
>
> Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen
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Hi All,
capture agc wpf
henny cpm
73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
AG WPF 03-02.jpg

Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld.

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>capture agc wpf</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>henny cpm</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>73s</FONT></DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het volgende 
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Graham,

if I had the right software installed probably yes.
Any suggestion what software (preferable freeware) I should use (and =20
where to find it) ?

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

Quoting Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>:

> Thanks Rik
>
> Can you decode them ?
>
> Im just running  two sessions of multipsk , dial set 501 Khz usb , the
> mt63 is  fixed in frequency , 500 to  1000 hz , olivia is cent on  503
> khz carrier .......round  10 to  15 watts each stream
>
> G ..
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>>
>> both signals audible in JO20IX
>>
>> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
>>
>> Quoting Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>:
>>
>>> As a follow on to some tests  with Gary  , with Olivia  500 x 8 and the
>>> original MT63 system
>>>
>>> Running  two  data streams now at about 10  watts per mode , carrier
>>> frequencies are :-
>>>
>>> mt63   501.5 to  502 Khz
>>>
>>> olivia 500x8  503 Khz +/-  250 Hz
>>>
>>> The book says mt63 should not print as well as olivia .....
>>>
>>> tnx - G ..
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Also , nil for VO1NA !
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Jay,
First decode tonight 2206Z -28dB,
Bad QRN tonight .
Will keep uploading spots throughout the night to web.

Chris, G3XVL  JO02NB (Ipswich, Suffolk)



2009/2/1 John P-G <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk>

> On Sun, 1 Feb 2009 15:30:29 -0500
> <jrusgrove@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > Confirming start of WSPR transmission 2030Z on 507.000 dial frequency.
> >
> > Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
> >
> Jay, LF,
>
> First decode at 21:48, aafter a few periods of weakly visible signs on
> the waterfall.
>
> 21:48 -28dB
>
> Hope you can keep the transmission going right through the UK sunrise
> period - say to 10:00 UTC.
>
> Cheers,
>
> John
> GM4SLV
>
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Jay,<br>First decode tonight 2206Z -28dB,<br>Bad QRN tonight .<br>Will keep=20=
uploading spots throughout the night to web.<br><br>Chris, G3XVL&nbsp; JO02N=
B (Ipswich, Suffolk)<br><br><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/2/1 John=
 P-G <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk">=
gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk</a>&gt;</span><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 2=
04, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div><div></div><di=
v class=3D"Wj3C7c">On Sun, 1 Feb 2009 15:30:29 -0500<br>
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jrusgrove@comcast.net">jrusgrove@comcast.net</a>&gt; w=
rote:<br>
<br>
&gt; Confirming start of WSPR transmission 2030Z on 507.000 dial frequency.<=
br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Jay W1VD &nbsp;WD2XNS &nbsp;WE2XGR/2<br>
&gt;<br>
</div></div>Jay, LF,<br>
<br>
First decode at 21:48, aafter a few periods of weakly visible signs on<br>
the waterfall.<br>
<br>
21:48 -28dB<br>
<br>
Hope you can keep the transmission going right through the UK sunrise<br>
period - say to 10:00 UTC.<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
<br>
John<br>
GM4SLV<br>
<br>
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Thanks Henny!

73
Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV


> Hi Lf,
> capture rn3agc
> hENNY CPM
> 73S
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Yes, I saw that double listing as well, just as I broke off to listen
to G0NBD's Olivia signal.  Just about to return to WSPR, see if that
freq jump can be triggerred.

Andy  G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com



2009/2/1 James Moritz <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>:
> Dear Andy, LF Group,
>
> Should be better now - I have been playing with antennas due to the problem
> that arose yesterday with the increased noise levels. Incidentally, I just
> saw your frequency jump from 503870 to 503885 Hz in the middle of the 1830
> transmission, but still gave 0dB and +3dB SNRs - on two frequencies!
>
> After going out and about with a loop and portable RX, I am now pretty
> certain that the QRM is being radiated from the Brookmans Park transmitter
> site. I am not entirely certain, but there seems to be some correlation
> between the noise and the BBC R5 909kHz transmission audio, the antenna of
> which is about 500m from here. This was also the case before, but the QRM
> level has risen by about 20dB in the last day or so.
>
> As an experiment, I have lashed up an EWE-like antenna, and with suitable
> tweaking this gives about 20dB of unidirectional null, which has brought me
> back to more or less where I was before, at least for signals coming from a
> westerly direction. It is too big to be a permanent fixture, and also
> interacts with the TX antenna. But I think similar or better results will be
> achievable by phasing a vertical antenna against the existing loops here.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Talbot" <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 5:26 PM
> Subject: LF: 'JNT WSPR
>
>
>> Why are you reporting such a low SNR, Jim ?
>
>
>


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Jay,

I am listening, will you give a confirmation when you take off ?

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

Quoting jrusgrove@comcast.net:

> WE2XGR/2 will be transmitting in PSKFEC31 mode tonight on 508.5 kHz
> starting 2130Z and will continue until at least 0100Z and perhaps
> beyond.
>
> PSKFEC31 (PSK31 with forward error correction) can be decoded with the
> colorful program MultiPSK - available at http://www.f6cte.free.fr/ .
> Sunglasses are recommended for the first time user. As far as I know
> there are no other programs that can decode this mode. If anyone has
> info to the contrary please advise.
>
> Some background info on PSKFEC31 and other digital modes as well as
> tests run by W1TAG and myself can be found at
> http://www.w1tag.com/600M_Modes.htm .
>
> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2



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Hi Warren,Lf,
capture XGJ
Henny cpm
73s
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Laurence do you know the city you will be ?
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From: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.comTo: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.orgDate: Th=
u, 12 Feb 2009 00:15:06 -0900Subject: LF: Costa Rica Ops TI3

 Ill be running LF/MF rx operations from Costa Rica from appx 15-20th March=20=
2009 from CATIE (Tropical Agricultural Research and Higher Education Center)=
 Turrialba Centro Costa Rica whilst I refurb the HF commercial station there=
 for Raleigh International, the Youth Development charity. I was last there=20=
in 2003 on LF http://www.kl1x.com/costa.jpg and this time I wont have the lo=
op but will be using a probe - but Im expecting better things than last time=
 as weve figured out a few tricks to improve the s/n/. Rx will be SDR IQ and=
 PA0RDT probe plus LDF's, which are an easier transit as Ill be in and out v=
ia China -  This location afforded an excellent path to Eu and Americas'  on=
 LF and even though we were surrounded by volcanic mountains I managed to wo=
rk Argentina on 6m nearly every night last time around. The coasts arent tha=
t far away either side... I wont have Tx (I think) but call will be as then=20=
TI3/ KL 1 X From June or so this coming year it looks like Ill be working ou=
t of Abu Dhabi A61 for a while - no chance of a license there so it seems bu=
t will try to get the rx system on line. Laurence BY3A/ KL1 X, G4DMA



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Laurence do you know the city you will be ?<BR>
Thanks <BR>
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&nbsp;<BR>Ill be running LF/MF rx operations from Costa Rica from appx 15-20=
th March 2009 from CATIE (Tropical Agricultural Research and Higher Educatio=
n Center) Turrialba Centro Costa Rica whilst I refurb the HF commercial stat=
ion there for Raleigh International, the Youth Development charity.<BR>&nbsp=
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">http://www.kl1x.com/costa.jpg</A>&nbsp;and this time I wont have the loop=20=
but will be using a probe - but Im expecting better things than last time as=
 weve figured out a few tricks to improve the s/n/. Rx will be SDR IQ and PA=
0RDT probe plus LDF's, which are an easier transit as Ill be in and out via=20=
China - <BR>&nbsp;<BR>This location afforded an excellent path to Eu and Ame=
ricas'&nbsp; on LF and even though we were surrounded by volcanic mountains=20=
I managed to work Argentina on 6m nearly every night last time around. The c=
oasts arent that far away either side...<BR>&nbsp;<BR>I wont have Tx (I thin=
k) but call will be as then TI3/ KL 1 X<BR>&nbsp;<BR>From June or so this co=
ming year it looks like Ill be working out of Abu Dhabi A61 for a while - no=
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Hi Warren,Lf
Capture XGJ
Henny cpm
73s
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Warren,Lf</FONT></DIV>
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Willem,
     Yes low power last night. The power supply problem is solved,  I
will soon be QRO again.
Thanks for the capture, your receiving setup is working very well!
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73 Warren K2ORS
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On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 12:23 AM,  <victor13@online.nl> wrote:
> Still qrp Warren?
>
> 73
>
> Victor


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Hi Joe,lf,

captured a part of your callsign at 00:30z

73

Victor

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John GM4SLV wrote:
> I think you mean the "north-east part of _England_"?
> 
> The QTH alluded to is actually in the _southern_ part of the UK

Yes, of course... I was thinking of England but I wrote UK. Sorry...
The latitude of your QTH is even a few degrees north of mine.

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Gudday Stan,

Saw call and thought of ZL3MG, Roger, small world...  Also cobber @ Canterbu=
ry Aero Club...

Am glad to finally hear the ZLs coming in Stan even if on this noise free e-=
mail, hihi...

Invercargill? Queenstown?? Come back...

ZLB?

73s from Dave @ WD2XSH/17


  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Hi Stan,

  You might have another 20 years to go. 80 isn't an old fart yet...hi hi...

  Someone will have to post the details on how to subscribe & unsubscribe fr=
om this email reflector. I can't find the original message. It is something=20=
you have to do from your email address.

  Mike
  WE0H



  Stan wrote:=20
       Would you please close my  connection blacksheep. org.

      At  80  years I am finding that I am a  bit out of place..

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DE WD2XSH/17 QSW WSPR 503.900kc  ( .502400 ssb dial )

TNX FM DAVE AT THE WESTERN TOWER  www.radiocom.net/Fessenden  





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Hi Mark,

 

Thanks for looking & your reply.

 

I did it manually & as it was my first a bit time consuming, I think the
Excel macro will ease the data retrieval part at least, I will give it a
try.

 

It makes the levels more interesting in that format.

 

73

 

Gary - G4WGT

 

  _____  

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Mark
Sent: 25 February 2009 17:03
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: Re: 500khz wspr spreadsheet 

 

Hi Gary, very interesting, especially the correlation of the signal
strengths which seems moderately high.

for those wishing to do similar processing of WSPR data, I have written an
Excel macro that enables you to extract data from the web database very
quickly, and also converts the text based time date fields to a usable (ie
plottable) format.

http://www.dc2light.co.uk/getwspr1.6.xls

no warranty offered or implied.

it doesn't seem to work under openoffice either..

Hope this is of use

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Gary - G4WGT <mailto:g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>  

To: LF <mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>  -RSGB LF Group 

Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 4:38 PM

Subject: LF: 500khz wspr spreadsheet

 

Hi LF,

 

I have created a MS Excel spread-sheet for my WSPRing last night. I have
uploaded it to my website as it is too large for the LF group forum. On
three worksheets there is a graph in marker format, a graph in line format &
the data from the five stations who reported to the WSPR Spots page.

 

It is my first attempt at an Excel chart, please let me know what you think.
It can be downloaded at :-

 

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/WSPR01.xls

 

73,

 

Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.

 


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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue;font-weight:bold'>Hi Mark,=
<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue;font-weight:bold'><o:p>&nb=
sp;</o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue;font-weight:bold'>Thanks
for looking &amp; your reply.<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue;font-weight:bold'><o:p>&nb=
sp;</o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue;font-weight:bold'>I did it
manually &amp; as it was my first a bit time consuming, I think the Excel ma=
cro
will ease the data retrieval part at least, I will give it a try.<o:p></o:p>=
</span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue;font-weight:bold'><o:p>&nb=
sp;</o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue;font-weight:bold'>It makes
the levels more interesting in that format.<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue;font-weight:bold'><o:p>&nb=
sp;</o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue;font-weight:bold'>73<o:p><=
/o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue;font-weight:bold'><o:p>&nb=
sp;</o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue;font-weight:bold'>Gary &#8=
211;
G4WGT<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

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=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue;font-weight:bold'><o:p>&nb=
sp;</o:p></span></font></b></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span lang=3DEN-US styl=
e=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></fon=
t></b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-size:10.=
0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or=
g] <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Mark<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 25 February 2009 17:03<=
br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.=
org<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> LF: Re: 500khz wspr
spreadsheet </span></font><span lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10=
.0pt; font-family:Arial'>Hi Gary, very interesting, especially the correlati=
on of the
signal strengths which seems moderately high.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10=
.0pt; font-family:Arial'>for those wishing to do similar processing of WSPR=20=
data, I
have written an Excel macro that enables you to extract data from the web
database very quickly, and also converts the text based time date fields to=20=
a
usable (ie plottable) format.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10=
.0pt; font-family:Arial'><a href=3D"http://www.dc2light.co.uk/getwspr1.6.xls=
">http://www.dc2light.co.uk/getwspr1.6.xls</a></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10=
.0pt; font-family:Arial'>no warranty offered or implied.</span></font><o:p><=
/o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10=
.0pt; font-family:Arial'>it doesn't seem to work under openoffice either..</=
span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10=
.0pt; font-family:Arial'>Hope this is of use</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:#E4E4E4'><b><font size=3D2 face=3DA=
rial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Fro=
m:</span></font></b><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.=
0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a href=3D"mailto:g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk" title=3D"g4wg=
t@tiscali.co.uk">Gary - G4WGT</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:10.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>To:</span></font></b><font size=
=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a hre=
f=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" title=3D"rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.=
org">LF
-RSGB LF Group</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:10.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></font></b><font si=
ze=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Wedn=
esday,
February 25, 2009 4:38 PM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:10.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></font></b><font=
 size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> L=
F: 500khz wspr
spreadsheet<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'=
font-size: 12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Hi LF,<o:p></o:p></span></font>=
</b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font>=
</b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>I have created a MS Excel sprea=
d-sheet for
my WSPRing last night. I have uploaded it to my website as it is too large f=
or
the LF group forum. On three worksheets there is a graph in marker format, a
graph in line format &amp; the data from the five stations who reported to t=
he
WSPR Spots page.<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font>=
</b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>It is my first attempt at an Ex=
cel chart,
please let me know what you think. It can be downloaded at :-<o:p></o:p></sp=
an></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font>=
</b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'><a href=3D"http://myweb.tiscali=
.co.uk/wgtaylor/WSPR01.xls">http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/WSPR01.xls</=
a><o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font>=
</b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><strong><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'f=
ont-size: 12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>73,</span></font></b></strong><o:p></o:p=
></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'=
font-size: 12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><strong><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'f=
ont-size: 12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.</span></font></b>=
</strong><o:p></o:p></p>

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Dave Riley write about loop antennas:
> As for the CONS, well I just don't think of any...  Somebody??
> 
There are two 'cons' that I can think of. One is the weight of the 
low-loss wire required. This would cause a problem in my own case as 
local restrictions lead me to use a fairly fragile mast. The other is 
directivity in the form of two sharp nulls.

I have used a loop in the past and for a short while held the 73kHz 
distance record using it. However, after some comparitive tests, I 
opted for a Marconi which at that frequency had similar 'gain' but 
was almost omnidirectional.

In all other respects you are, of course, right.

Mike, G3XDV
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Lower voltages to deal with beneath the coil too.

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> From: g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 00:19:07 +0000
> Subject: Re: LF: Re: LF Antennas - back to basics
>=20
> Jim,
>=20
> Yes I can confirm this :-
>=20
> >>>>
> increasing the height of the top loading, even if only in the middle, does
> lead to substantial improvements. One benefit of doing this is that the
> effective height and radiation resistance is increased by increasing the
> average height of the antenna wires
> >>>>
>=20
> I made a substantial improvement to the original inverted L system, 35=20
> feet x 40 foot top , by adding a loading coil to the top of the vertical=20
> section (actually the 40 feet of top wire wound round a coke bottle) and=20
> providing 2 x 40 ft capacity wires 6 feet apart back to the house.
>=20
> Earth is everything that conducts in the garden bonded along with a couple=
=20
> of 12 ft alloy scaffold poles sunk in, to one point along with a couple=20
> of 50 foot ground lying wires as well, feed is via a auto transformer and=20=
a=20
> variometer in series , I did use a parallel tuner but this flashes over=20
> above 50 watts ,
>=20
> A bonus , is the system now works well on 1.8 and 3.5 Mhz as well . but=20
> with a very high Q , 20 Khz qsy on 3.8 is enough for the pa to trip on vsw=
r
>=20
> Notably, Gary, has modelled his array , similar 35 ft vertical section,=20
> using mmana and he favours the loading coil to be placed mid section, the=20
> offset capacity section of my array dose produce a slight slew of the=20
> pattern, but nothing too radical
>=20
> tnx- G ..
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> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "James Moritz" <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>
> Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 11:43 PM
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Subject: LF: Re: LF Antennas - back to basics
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> >
> > Dear Andy, Dave, LF Group,
> >
> > My experience is that improvements to the ground system soon reach a poi=
nt
> > of diminishing returns where the ground connection losses are small=20
> > compared
> > to other losses - I would expect you have reached that point already. In=
=20
> > my
> > case, literally filling the garden with wire made at best about 0.5dB
> > improvement by reducing loss resistance, compared to having about 5 grou=
nd
> > rods spaced a few metres around the downlead and loading coil. However
> > increasing the height of the top loading, even if only in the middle, do=
es
> > lead to substantial improvements. One benefit of doing this is that the
> > effective height and radiation resistance is increased by increasing the
> > average height of the antenna wires. If you are in a fairly built-up
> > environment, the improvement is probably more than you would expect from
> > calculating the effective height from the dimensions of the antenna=20
> > itself,
> > because increasing the physical height of the antenna puts it further=20
> > above,
> > or nearer the top of, screening buildings and trees etc., that are
> > surrounding it. Also, moving the antenna further above loss-causing=20
> > objects
> > leads to a modest reduction in the loss resistance. In my case, with an
> > inverted L about 10m high at the ends and sagging to 9m in the middle,
> > propping up the middle of the span with a fibreglass pole to about 14m
> > increases ERP by 3 - 4dB.
> >
> > As to possible advantages and disadvantages of a loop compared to a
> > vertical, in general the loop ought to benefit from lower dielectric=20
> > losses
> > due to the generally lower voltages. The directional pattern is often
> > helpful on receive. But the figure-of-eight directional pattern could al=
so
> > be a drawback for a transmit antenna where it isn't practical to rotate=20
> > the
> > antenna to avoid having nulls in awkward directions. Also, one has to=20
> > think
> > about the scale. AA1A's loop is quite big in overall dimensions compared=
=20
> > to
> > G4JNT's vertical. The radiation resistance of a loop is proportional to=20
> > the
> > square of the area, which is proportional to the square of the linear
> > dimensions of the loop conductor - so when scaling down a loop, one woul=
d
> > expect Rrad to reduce much faster than Rloss due to reduction in=20
> > perimeter,
> > and so efficiency of relatively small loops to be poor.
> >
> > Cheers, Jim Moritz
> > 73 de M0BMU
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----=20
> > From: "Andy Talbot" <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>
> > To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 4:16 PM
> > Subject: LF: LF Antennas - back to basics
> >
> >
> >> Firstly, bearing in mind there is no scope whatsoever to raise one end
> >> of the capacity hat which is defined by the apex of the house roof,
> >> and the other end would also need some major sugery to raise its heigh
> >> substantially, that only leaves the middle, ie the height of the
> >> actual radiator. It wouldn't be too difficult to raise this to 10m
> >> or even more with a fibreglass pole, but will I be throwing away all
> >> the advantage by having the top-hat drooping down to 7m?
> >>
> >> Secondly, pictures of other peoples antennas aften show a substantial
> >> grounding plate immediately under and around the antenna base. Just
> >> how far out is is worth going with a really substantial base. I
> >> could cut more conductors into the ground; while the ground is still
> >> is still soggy in March may be a good time to do this.
> >>
> >> Any ideas please ...?
> >>
> >>
> >> Andy G4JNT
> >> www.g4jnt.com
> >>
> >
> >
> >
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Lower voltages to deal with beneath the coil too.<BR>
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<BR>&nbsp;<BR>&gt; From: g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk<BR>&gt; To: rsgb_lf_group@b=
lacksheep.org<BR>&gt; Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 00:19:07 +0000<BR>&gt; Subject:=
 Re: LF: Re: LF Antennas - back to basics<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Jim,<BR>&gt; <BR>=
&gt; Yes I can confirm this :-<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt; inc=
reasing the height of the top loading, even if only in the middle, does<BR>&=
gt; lead to substantial improvements. One benefit of doing this is that the<=
BR>&gt; effective height and radiation resistance is increased by increasing=
 the<BR>&gt; average height of the antenna wires<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR=
>&gt; <BR>&gt; I made a substantial improvement to the original inverted L s=
ystem, 35 <BR>&gt; feet x 40 foot top , by adding a loading coil to the top=20=
of the vertical <BR>&gt; section (actually the 40 feet of top wire wound rou=
nd a coke bottle) and <BR>&gt; providing 2 x 40 ft capacity wires 6 feet apa=
rt back to the house.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Earth is everything that conducts in=20=
the garden bonded along with a couple <BR>&gt; of 12 ft alloy scaffold poles=
 sunk in, to one point along with a couple <BR>&gt; of 50 foot ground lying=20=
wires as well, feed is via a auto transformer and a <BR>&gt; variometer in s=
eries , I did use a parallel tuner but this flashes over <BR>&gt; above 50 w=
atts ,<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; A bonus , is the system now works well on 1.8 and 3.=
5 Mhz as well . but <BR>&gt; with a very high Q , 20 Khz qsy on 3.8 is enoug=
h for the pa to trip on vswr<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Notably, Gary, has modelled hi=
s array , similar 35 ft vertical section, <BR>&gt; using mmana and he favour=
s the loading coil to be placed mid section, the <BR>&gt; offset capacity se=
ction of my array dose produce a slight slew of the <BR>&gt; pattern, but no=
thing too radical<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; tnx- G ..<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; --------------=
------------------------------------<BR>&gt; From: "James Moritz" &lt;james.=
moritz@btopenworld.com&gt;<BR>&gt; Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 11:43 P=
M<BR>&gt; To: &lt;rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org&gt;<BR>&gt; Subject: LF: Re:=20=
LF Antennas - back to basics<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; Dear Andy, D=
ave, LF Group,<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; My experience is that improvements=20=
to the ground system soon reach a point<BR>&gt; &gt; of diminishing returns=20=
where the ground connection losses are small <BR>&gt; &gt; compared<BR>&gt;=20=
&gt; to other losses - I would expect you have reached that point already. I=
n <BR>&gt; &gt; my<BR>&gt; &gt; case, literally filling the garden with wire=
 made at best about 0.5dB<BR>&gt; &gt; improvement by reducing loss resistan=
ce, compared to having about 5 ground<BR>&gt; &gt; rods spaced a few metres=20=
around the downlead and loading coil. However<BR>&gt; &gt; increasing the he=
ight of the top loading, even if only in the middle, does<BR>&gt; &gt; lead=20=
to substantial improvements. One benefit of doing this is that the<BR>&gt; &=
gt; effective height and radiation resistance is increased by increasing the=
<BR>&gt; &gt; average height of the antenna wires. If you are in a fairly bu=
ilt-up<BR>&gt; &gt; environment, the improvement is probably more than you w=
ould expect from<BR>&gt; &gt; calculating the effective height from the dime=
nsions of the antenna <BR>&gt; &gt; itself,<BR>&gt; &gt; because increasing=20=
the physical height of the antenna puts it further <BR>&gt; &gt; above,<BR>&=
gt; &gt; or nearer the top of, screening buildings and trees etc., that are<=
BR>&gt; &gt; surrounding it. Also, moving the antenna further above loss-cau=
sing <BR>&gt; &gt; objects<BR>&gt; &gt; leads to a modest reduction in the l=
oss resistance. In my case, with an<BR>&gt; &gt; inverted L about 10m high a=
t the ends and sagging to 9m in the middle,<BR>&gt; &gt; propping up the mid=
dle of the span with a fibreglass pole to about 14m<BR>&gt; &gt; increases E=
RP by 3 - 4dB.<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; As to possible advantages and disad=
vantages of a loop compared to a<BR>&gt; &gt; vertical, in general the loop=20=
ought to benefit from lower dielectric <BR>&gt; &gt; losses<BR>&gt; &gt; due=
 to the generally lower voltages. The directional pattern is often<BR>&gt; &=
gt; helpful on receive. But the figure-of-eight directional pattern could al=
so<BR>&gt; &gt; be a drawback for a transmit antenna where it isn't practica=
l to rotate <BR>&gt; &gt; the<BR>&gt; &gt; antenna to avoid having nulls in=20=
awkward directions. Also, one has to <BR>&gt; &gt; think<BR>&gt; &gt; about=20=
the scale. AA1A's loop is quite big in overall dimensions compared <BR>&gt;=20=
&gt; to<BR>&gt; &gt; G4JNT's vertical. The radiation resistance of a loop is=
 proportional to <BR>&gt; &gt; the<BR>&gt; &gt; square of the area, which is=
 proportional to the square of the linear<BR>&gt; &gt; dimensions of the loo=
p conductor - so when scaling down a loop, one would<BR>&gt; &gt; expect Rra=
d to reduce much faster than Rloss due to reduction in <BR>&gt; &gt; perimet=
er,<BR>&gt; &gt; and so efficiency of relatively small loops to be poor.<BR>=
&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; Cheers, Jim Moritz<BR>&gt; &gt; 73 de M0BMU<BR>&gt; &=
gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; ----- Original Message ----- <BR>&gt; &gt; From: "Andy Talb=
ot" &lt;andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; To: &lt;rsgb_lf_group@bla=
cksheep.org&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 4:16 PM<BR>&g=
t; &gt; Subject: LF: LF Antennas - back to basics<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;<=
BR>&gt; &gt;&gt; Firstly, bearing in mind there is no scope whatsoever to ra=
ise one end<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt; of the capacity hat which is defined by the ape=
x of the house roof,<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt; and the other end would also need some=
 major sugery to raise its heigh<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt; substantially, that only l=
eaves the middle, ie the height of the<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt; actual radiator. It=20=
wouldn't be too difficult to raise this to 10m<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt; or even more=
 with a fibreglass pole, but will I be throwing away all<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt; th=
e advantage by having the top-hat drooping down to 7m?<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;<BR>&=
gt; &gt;&gt; Secondly, pictures of other peoples antennas aften show a subst=
antial<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt; grounding plate immediately under and around the ant=
enna base. Just<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt; how far out is is worth going with a really=
 substantial base. I<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt; could cut more conductors into the gro=
und; while the ground is still<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt; is still soggy in March may=20=
be a good time to do this.<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt; Any ideas pleas=
e ...?<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt; Andy G4JNT<BR>&gt;=
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Hello all,

This opens up scope for a completely new DXCC challenge.
For example who can achieve 5BDXCC in 20 minutes.

Me thinks the contests aficiados should like this very much indeed!

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No Graham... it is in your CMOS boot set-up....you should be able to adjust 
the PCI bus speed, or perhaps the clock divider speed that the bus clock is 
based on....73...Jordan....


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> Jordan
>
> ... Er no .. but what to  set and what to adjust .?. I assumed the  clock 
> was on the  sound card .. small xtal oscillator ?
>
> Tnx
>
> G ..
>
> --------------------------------------------------
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>
>>
>> Have you tried adjusting the PCI bus settings in CMOS..?
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 5:09 PM
>> Subject: Re: LF: Re: wspr and the over clocked sound card .. whats the 
>> final
>> position ??
>>
>>
>>> Jordan
>>>
>>>
>>> The card is a PCI  ,   M - Audio Delta 4
>>>
>>> running with windows  xp-pro
>>>
>>> There are a selection of clock speeds .. but  it seems that when a
>>> application runs . it defaults to the 44k setting .. but  for all other
>>> software .. no problem .. works very well
>>>
>>> G ..
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> From: "Jordan" <outposter30@shaw.ca>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 11:59 PM
>>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>>> Subject: LF: Re: wspr and the over clocked sound card .. whats the 
>>> final
>>> position ??
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Is this for an on-board sound card, and if not, what type of bus is it
>>>> on..?
>>>> 73...Jordan....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
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>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 4:50 PM
>>>> Subject: LF: wspr and the over clocked sound card .. whats the final
>>>> position ??
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> wspr and the over clocked sound card
>>>>>
>>>>> Was there a resolve to the  problem of the  short wspr  tx produced by 
>>>>> a
>>>>> soundcard that was running  slightly  faster than it  should
>>>>>
>>>>> 1.5 seconds short .....  about 1 %
>>>>>
>>>>> , resulting in no decodes for strong signals .. presumably by 
>>>>> providing
>>>>> too many sync's
>>>>>
>>>>> There is no way of changing the  sample  rate of the  card .. there is 
>>>>> a
>>>>> option in the  driver . but  as soon as wspr  runs . the  card reverts
>>>>> to
>>>>> the  normal 44 khz setting
>>>>>
>>>>> No problems with any of the  other  systems as the  card can be
>>>>> calibrated
>>>>> (though not  needed)
>>>>>
>>>>> any  fixes or ideas ??
>>>>>
>>>>> tnx
>>>>>
>>>>> Graham ..
>>>>>
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Hi Dave, LF,

I will probably close down about 0000utc + or -.

Only about 5 watts RF to antenna, frequency 503.915KHz.

73

Gary - G4WGT.


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DE WD2XSH/17 tuned for WSPRs from G4JNT and G4WGT on or about 503.900 +/- 
100HZ.

Please advise your quitting times, else will let it run all night...

TNX

Dave


re: 
http://wsprnet.org/meptspots.php?mode=html&band=2190&limit=50&findcall=&find
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Hi Warren
capture XGJ
Henny cpm
73s
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both signals audible in JO20IX

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

Quoting Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>:

> As a follow on to some tests  with Gary  , with Olivia  500 x 8 and the
> original MT63 system
>
> Running  two  data streams now at about 10  watts per mode , carrier
> frequencies are :-
>
> mt63   501.5 to  502 Khz
>
> olivia 500x8  503 Khz +/-  250 Hz
>
> The book says mt63 should not print as well as olivia .....
>
> tnx - G ..



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Dear LF enthusiasts!

Strange (or not ?) info from "The Weekly DX" bulletin
Vol 9, Nr 5, 2.2.2009 :
40 Meter expansion
Starting March 30th Amateur Radio operators from both South Korea and
Japan will be allocated Amateur Radio use in the 7.1 to 7.2 MHz
range. Japan is also expected allocation on 135 KHz.
<skip>

73! Ed RU6LA   136.73.ru


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Hi Joe,lf
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Hi Warren,lf
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Henny cpm
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WSPR beacon now running
503.870kHz centre, SSB Dial freq 502.4kHz >> 1470Hz
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Jay,

no overnight copy here

73, Rik

Quoting jrusgrove@comcast.net:

> FLdigi also works well http://www.w1hkj.com/Fldigi.html .
>
> Jay
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rik Strobbe"  =20
> <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 5:20 PM
> Subject: Re: LF: WE2XGR/2 in MFSK8
>
>
> Here Stream and Multipsk are working side by side for almost 1 hour
> now (fingers crossed).
> However no copy so far.
> I leave them running overnight.
>
> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
>
> Quoting jrusgrove@comcast.net:
>
>> Gary
>>
>> The program keeps running okay here.
>>
>> A couple other points though. Unlike Multipsk one has to specify the
>> lower edge of the bandpass - not the middle. This is 120 Hz below the
>> center. In other words if 800 Hz is your received audio center
>> frequency set the frequency to 680. Maybe there is a way to set it to
>> the center...if so I havn't found it.
>>
>> The bigger problem is with other applications running at the same time.
>> Just opened an internet browser and copy went to garbage. MultiPSK kept
>> decoding properly.
>>
>> Jay
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 4:54 PM
>> Subject: RE: LF: WE2XGR/2 in MFSK8
>>
>>
>>> Jay, LF,
>>>
>>> I also downloaded Stream & it runs for about 30 seconds & freezes.
>>>
>>> 73 - Gary - G4WGT.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>>> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of
>>> jrusgrove@comcast.net
>>> Sent: 07 February 2009 21:42
>>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>>> Subject: Re: LF: WE2XGR/2 in MFSK8
>>>
>>> Rik and group
>>>
>>> Confirming start at 2130Z.
>>>
>>> Downloaded Stream earlier and was unable to get it to work. MultiPSK wor=
ks
>>> fine. May very well be
>>> cockpit error. Will  look into it.
>>>
>>> Jay
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rik Strobbe"    =20
>>> <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
>>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 4:28 PM
>>> Subject: Re: LF: WE2XGR/2 in MFSK8
>>>
>>>
>>>> Jay,
>>>>
>>>> It just downloaded / installed stream (IZ8BLY).
>>>> RX / PC is on 508.5 overnight
>>>>
>>>> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
>>>>
>>>> Quoting jrusgrove@comcast.net:
>>>>
>>>>> WE2XGR/2 will be transmitting in MFSK8 mode on 508.5 kHz from 2130Z -
>>>>> 0000Z tonight. Reports are appreciated.
>>>>>
>>>>> When using MultiPSK as the decoder be advised that the program has bee=
n
>>>>> known to occasionally go on 'walkabout' after loss of signal. Stopping
>>>>> and restarting the decoder seems to solve the problem.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jay  W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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Dear Graham, LF Group,

I have two instances of FLdigi running - getting some copy with Olivia:

CQ CQ CQ 5~..g$o3d  g0nbd  g0nbd io79B i1E0a DE&&s
Lbd  g0nbd  goD'j
 CENoQ C@oTt.g0nbda_<0nbdo
bd  kkk

The Olivia signal is faintly audible here, but the MT63 seems to be 
undetectable by any means! I will leave it running for a while, I expect 
signal levels will pick up later.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU
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> As a follow on to some tests  with Gary  , with Olivia  500 x 8 and the 
> original MT63 system



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Hi lf
capture AGC
henny cpm
73s
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Best copy I managed - not brilliant.

TES`#[y|E!,N+X+|R>'[C36ir9/&8L8}^-GqMb/
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]y,)~4~KP%Beacon >>> de G0NBD
00NBD:72 G0NBD  ARQ TEST  PLS CONNECT  O@IVIA  650 X 8  KKK5A4A


Using MultiPSK - I don't think there is a "connect" option.

Andy  G4JNT
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2009/2/1 Andy Talbot <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>:
> Copy abt 50% of your transmission, but its weak and much QRM.  Tried
> replying, but not sure how to "connect".  Just replied manually using
> MultiPSK
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> Andy  G4JNT
> www.g4jnt.com
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> 2009/2/1 Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>:
>>
>> FLDIGI  IN FLARQ MODE  OLIVIA 250 x 8   503 CENTRE   FREQ
>>
>> Running  olivia 250 x 8  503 khz centre frequency
>> Software   FLDIGI , with  FLARQ  module running beacon 60  seconds , rx
>> open,
>> mycall set to  G0NBD
>> pls try connect .. should work .....
>> Graham .
>> http://www.w1hkj.com/Fldigi.html
>>
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>>
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>>
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Hi Joe and LF
nothing seen Joe
Henny CPM
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Hi Warren,Lf
capture XGJ
Heny CPM
73S
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Warren,Lf</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Heny CPM</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>73S</FONT></DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het volgende 
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Hello Henny, Willem,
Thanks for the screenshots!

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Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV


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Mike,
     1st U.K. report in a long, long time!
Thanks for the report and capture!
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On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 10:13 AM, Mike Dennison
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Dear QRM-haunted fellows,

Searching around for something "completely different", I found this site 
which may be interesting for some members of the group:

http://brneurosci.org/fluorescent-lamp-interference.html

It describes how to reduce interference caused by some energy-saving lamps.

On the same website, there is also an article about a varctor tuned loop 
antenna, where the author found the "Q" of the resonant antenna was 
higher when tuned with varactor diodes, than with an air variable 
capacitor (?!) :

http://brneurosci.org/loopantenna.html

73,
   Wolf  .



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Hi Joe
capture VO1NA
Henny cpm
73s
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Hi Warren,lf

capture of xgj at 5:38z

73

Victor

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On Tue, 3 Feb 2009, jcraig@mun.ca wrote:

  Many thanks to Henny, Jean-Pierre, Victor and Vern
  (and anyone who I may have forgotten) for the
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  73
  Joe



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Andy Talbot wrote:

> By any reckoning this constitutes a QSO - even for contest purposes

Ha-ha! LOL! ROTFL!

I agree but do expect a comment or two from the north-east part of the UK! ;-)

73
Johan SM6LKM


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FLDIGI  IN FLARQ MODE  OLIVIA 250 x 8   503 CENTRE   FREQ

Running  olivia 250 x 8  503 khz centre frequency 

Software   FLDIGI , with  FLARQ  module running 
beacon 60  seconds , rx open, 

mycall set to  G0NBD 

pls try connect .. should work ..... 

Graham .  

http://www.w1hkj.com/Fldigi.html

 



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first traces at 2210Z, first decode at 2230Z

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

Quoting Chris McCarthy <chris.decibel@googlemail.com>:

> Jay,
> First decode tonight 2206Z -28dB,
> Bad QRN tonight .
> Will keep uploading spots throughout the night to web.
>
> Chris, G3XVL  JO02NB (Ipswich, Suffolk)
>
>
>
> 2009/2/1 John P-G <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk>
>
>> On Sun, 1 Feb 2009 15:30:29 -0500
>> <jrusgrove@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> > Confirming start of WSPR transmission 2030Z on 507.000 dial frequency.
>> >
>> > Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>> >
>> Jay, LF,
>>
>> First decode at 21:48, aafter a few periods of weakly visible signs on
>> the waterfall.
>>
>> 21:48 -28dB
>>
>> Hope you can keep the transmission going right through the UK sunrise
>> period - say to 10:00 UTC.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> John
>> GM4SLV
>>
>>
>



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Many thanks Henny, and also Brian KG8CO, Jean-Pierre F1AFJ, and
Victor PA3FNY for the recent reports of the beacon on 184.5093 kHz.

73
Joe

On Thu, 12 Feb 2009, henny van elst wrote:

> Hi Joe,LF
> Just a litlle trace vo1na
> henny cpm
> 73s
> Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
> VO1NA 12-02.jpg
>
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Saw what looked like a CW beacon separated by long ( 8 second dash? ) in 
between on 503.950 but it was too weak to make aural ID, however it looked 
like Finbar's CW beacon signature.

This was last night ( Saturday ).

Local QRN was up about 3-4 db masking other sigs as well...


TNX

Dave @ WD2XSH/17



 



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Hi Joe,
nothing on the screen,
henny cpm
73s

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Andy, LF,

Forwarded from Dave 

Gary.

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Hi Gary,

Could you please forward to group?

The blacksheep server thinks I am trying to spam it...

TNX from Dave




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> 090226 0406   1 -29  0.0   0.503869  G4JNT IO90 23          
> 090226 0610   3 -29  0.0   0.503869  G4JNT IO90 23          
> 
> SAW LOTS OF REMNANTS BUT ONLY 2 DECODES
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> TNX DE DAVE @ AA1A
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No decodes so far tonight on WSPR but weak lines on WSPR screen and weak 
sigs on ARGO are consistent with sigs supposed to be on G4JNT frequency...

Looks like 3 or so more DB would have done it...

TNX

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Hi Rudolf, LF,
capture last night in 22.15z

73
Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV

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sri capture DTL

nice signal nicolas
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Gary,

solid copy, -13dB SNR here with little QSB
G4JNT is -5 / +5dB SNR, remarkable more QSB.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

Quoting Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>:

> Hi LF,
>
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>
> Running WSPR beacon tonight for a while.
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> Frequency 503.915KHz - 2 mW ERP (3dBm)
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> 73,
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> Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.
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Hi Warren
capture XGJ
Henny cpm
73s
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Warren</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>capture XGJ</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Henny cpm</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>73s</FONT></DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het volgende 
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Hello Henny ,
Yes , very good conditions for me , last night !
73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

henny van elst a =E9crit :
> Hi Jean-Pierre,
>
> very nice capture
> henny cpm
> best 73s
>  =20

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Hello Joe , LF ,

Very good copy last night of VO1NA
( my first full callsing )
see capture .

73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj





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<font face="Arial">How 'bout those hot Russian women?   Yower!!! <span  class="moz-smiley-s1"><span> :-) </span></span><br>
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Mike<br>
WE0H<br>
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Laurence BY3A-KL1X in China said:
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  </style>I like "To Russia with love" ! <br>
 <br>
73<br>
Laurence still stuck in Singapore..<br>
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  <br>
&gt; Scott said:<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; The TIL Grabber has reconfigured RX antennas to favour the over
the pole <br>
&gt; path and has begun listening runs at QRSS60 at the request of our <br>
&gt; colleagues in central Russia in the 2200m wateringhole
(137775-137781Hz).<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Sorry that means my null is now aimed at the boys on the east
coast of <br>
&gt; the USA...<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Keep tabs on the fun and excitement here:<br>
&gt; <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www3.telus.net/sthed/argo/">http://www3.telus.net/sthed/argo/</a><br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; 73 Scott<br>
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Hello Warren, LF!
I captured one picture only.

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Hi LF,
Capture last night in 22.30z.

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Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV

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Hi Joe well done on repairing your antenna. It seems as though the predicted
coronal-hole event was very mild and should not affect LF propagation
significantly. The outlook now is for good to very good night-time
conditions on LF, allowing for the multi-path fading of course, over the
rest of the week.

Best Wishes
Alan G3NYK




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Thanks to G7AQA, ON7YD, W1TAG, W0RPK, VE3EAR, K3SIW and W3NF for the reports. Transmitter was shut 
down at 0200Z. Looks like this mode is a bit of a stretch for T/A work although Mike was able to
pull out a few clean lines of copy.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2



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Hi Jay, LFers,

You're pounding in here this evening before our local sunset.
If I can find one, I might try patching in an attenuator in the
feedline and see how much I can reduce the signal before
it starts dropping decodes.  Thanks for being on!

73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
Solar and wind powered
Lowfer " EAR"  188.830
EN93dr

http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle




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Hi All,
capture UA4WPF
Henny pa3cpm
73s
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UA4WPF.jpg

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi All,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>capture UA4WPF</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Henny pa3cpm</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>73s</FONT></DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het volgende 
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Hi Graham, LF.

Both modes printing at 100pc but I am too close to make any comparison at
these strengths.

If someone from a greater distance can set up two instances of Multipsk &
monitor both together & report here on LF that would be ideal.

73

Gary - G4WGT.

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Subject: LF: If anyones about , MT63 x 500 Hz and Olivia 500 x 8 running now
1935 hrs

As a follow on to some tests  with Gary  , with Olivia  500 x 8 and the 
original MT63 system

Running  two  data streams now at about 10  watts per mode , carrier 
frequencies are :-

mt63   501.5 to  502 Khz

olivia 500x8  503 Khz +/-  250 Hz

The book says mt63 should not print as well as olivia .....

tnx - G ..

 





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Mostly in Jest, but food for thought...

The WSPR database with its complete record of who has heard whom with
date, time , frequency, locator, report and stated Tx power opens up
an interesting philosophical concept.

If the database records that A has heard B, and B has heard A, then
the stations have exchanged reports, location and a piece of unique
information.   By any reckoning this constitutes a QSO - even for
contest purposes.   So now, I don't have to sit in front of a rig
waffling or tapping,  or even be in the shack, or even awake, to have
a valid QSO.   I can be on continuously, 24/7/52.14775  to take
advantage of lifts and anti-social-hours propagation.

Lets do this on all the bands!  Choose a modulation type matched to
the RF medium and bandwidth, and just get on with it.
Throw away those microphones, and definitely those funny tappy 19th
centuary things.

There is one downside: a permanant internet connection to upload
real-time reports.   BUT this could even herald a rebirth for packet
radio if local amateurs could set up simple forwarding nodes to
suitable internet connections?


Andy  G4JNT
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Am seeing activity on 503.900 but no WSPR decodes...

Just widely separated dashes of about 8 seconds length...

QRU




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> According to the WSPR Spot database, there is some "interesting" DX
> being received chez GM4ISM.
> Is there some carrier or coherent  QRM present to generate these false 
> hits?
>
> Just got a WSPR generating routine running on a 16F628 PIC with AD9852
> DDS combination.
> At the moment it only operates at 100% duty cycle, but I'm Looking at
> PN sequences for randomised transmission slots with 20/25/33% Duty
> cycle operation.
>
> Andy  G4JNT
> www.g4jnt.com
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Hi Warren,
capture XGJ
Henny cpm
73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
XGJ 24-02.jpg

Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld.

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Warren,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>capture XGJ</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Henny cpm</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>73s</FONT></DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het volgende 
bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:<BR>XGJ 24-02.jpg<BR><BR>Opmerking: 
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Hello Warren, LF!
Band was very noisy last night.

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Argo in QRSS30

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> Hello Uwe, Markus, LF,
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Hi Lf,
Capture WPF
Henny cpm
73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Lf,</FONT></DIV>
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Hello Warren,Lf,
nice capture XGJ
Henny CPM
73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
XGJ 15-02.jpg

Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld.

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hello Warren,Lf,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>nice capture XGJ</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>73s</FONT></DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het volgende 
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Rik,

Open two instances of Multipsk, set the receiver to 501KHz USB.

On one Multipsk select MFSK16 & click the cursor at 1000 on the waterfall &
on the other Multipsk select Olivia then the Olivia mode to 8x500, button
just over the waterfall then click the cursor on 2000.

You should now be up & running both modes.

73

Gary - G4WGT.


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Subject: Re: LF: Olivia 500 x 8 MFSK16 NOW RUNNING

Graham,

I just installed multipsk.
I believe it is the most chaotic programme I have ever seen.

Right now 21:28UTC I hear alternating signals on 502 and 503.

As I am not in the mood of reading the multipsk manual today could you  
just tell me what mode is running where and what dial frequency / mode  
(USB or LSB) I should set the RX to?

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

Quoting Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>:

> Modes changed
>
> MT63   STOPPED
>
> MFSK16 ,  Centre freq   1000 Hz audio
>
> Approx  15 watts peak per stream
>
> Thanks for reports .. will run this config  an hour or so
>
> G ..
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 7:39 PM
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> Subject: LF: If anyones about , MT63  x 500 Hz and Olivia 500 x 8
> running now 1935 hrs
>
>>
>> As a follow on to some tests  with Gary  , with Olivia  500 x 8 and the
>> original MT63 system
>>
>> Running  two  data streams now at about 10  watts per mode , carrier
>> frequencies are :-
>>
>> mt63   501.5 to  502 Khz
>>
>> olivia 500x8  503 Khz +/-  250 Hz
>>
>> The book says mt63 should not print as well as olivia .....
>>
>> tnx - G ..
>>
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>>



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Dear Jay, LF Group,

No copies of WE2XGR this morning - the PC clock has mysteriously advanced by 
4 or 5 seconds, which may be why. Also, the termination of the EWE antenna 
is under a foot of snow, which has probably unbalanced it and brought the 
noise level up a bit!

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU



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Jay,

the result of my overnight monitoring

73, Rik


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Quoting jrusgrove@comcast.net:

> Rik & group
>
> Confirming start of PSKFEC31 at 2130Z. Not too optimistic on this mode
> but we'll see. GL and thanks for listening / watching. Jay
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rik Strobbe"  =20
> <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 4:27 PM
> Subject: Re: LF: WE2XGR/2 in PSKFEC31
>
>
>> Jay,
>>
>> I am listening, will you give a confirmation when you take off ?
>>
>> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
>>
>> Quoting jrusgrove@comcast.net:
>>
>>> WE2XGR/2 will be transmitting in PSKFEC31 mode tonight on 508.5 kHz
>>> starting 2130Z and will continue until at least 0100Z and perhaps
>>> beyond.
>>>
>>> PSKFEC31 (PSK31 with forward error correction) can be decoded with the
>>> colorful program MultiPSK - available at http://www.f6cte.free.fr/ .
>>> Sunglasses are recommended for the first time user. As far as I know
>>> there are no other programs that can decode this mode. If anyone has
>>> info to the contrary please advise.
>>>
>>> Some background info on PSKFEC31 and other digital modes as well as
>>> tests run by W1TAG and myself can be found at
>>> http://www.w1tag.com/600M_Modes.htm .
>>>
>>> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>>
>>
>>
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Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2009 23:59:47 +0100
From: henny van elst <cpm@planet.nl>
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Hi All,
capture BMU JO WPF
Henny CPM,
73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
BMU YO WPF 08-02.jpg

Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld.

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi All,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>capture BMU JO WPF</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Henny CPM,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>73s</FONT></DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het volgende 
bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:<BR>BMU YO WPF 
08-02.jpg<BR><BR>Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging 
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Mode change

>From the initial reports it looks like the MT63 system is not as robust at 
the olivia 500 x 8

I will  change the MT63  mode to  MFSK16  , at  1000 Hz audio cent , ( 502 
Khz  rf cent )

As mfsk will pass via a non linear system , this may be of wider interest

Change time  >>> 2100 Hrs gmt <<<<

tnx - G ..



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>
> Nb . no rx cycle
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>>
>> As a follow on to some tests  with Gary  , with Olivia  500 x 8 and the
>> original MT63 system
>>
>> Running  two  data streams now at about 10  watts per mode , carrier
>> frequencies are :-
>>
>> mt63   501.5 to  502 Khz
>>
>> olivia 500x8  503 Khz +/-  250 Hz
>>
>> The book says mt63 should not print as well as olivia .....
>>
>> tnx - G ..
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Hi Lf,
capture AGC-WPF
Henny cpm
73s
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Jim,

Yes , copy was good even during deep fades, I did expect the olivia system 
to provide the better link, but as reported last night, the older mfsk 
system appeared to  give a quite reliable link, Gary and I did try out the 
250psk mode , which did  work but after loosing the connection, we found it 
was not possible to re link whilst using it ... however it appears you can 
change modes whilst linked ... I'm not sure the effect the pc speed has on 
the system, I was using a p3 1.1 ghz pc and the repeat response did seem to 
be a little slow from my station compared with your qso  with Gary .. that 
should be sorted soon ...

rgds

Graham ..

NB

This is a reply over the use of fldigi with the olivia mode, via the yahoo 
digital group  may be of interest ,

Olivia cannot be used as the transport mode for flarq unless the
timeout values in flarq are set to their maximums. Even then it is
highly likely that the digital effect of doubling will occur. Please
try to limit your use of flarq to those modes that appear on the
"Mode/NBEMS" menu item. These have been tested and are known to work
very well with the flarg implementation of ARQ.

73, Dave, W1HKJ






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>
> Dear Graham, Gary, LF Group,
>
> Thanks for the QSOs this evening...
>
> It seems MFSK16 works quite well in the presence of QRN, which is quite
> strong here tonight. There is always MFSK8 and MFSK4 to try as well.
>
> The Flarq ARQ mode was quite interesting, although probably not what you
> want for a "traditional" QSO. I imagine it could work quite well when you
> actually want to transmit quite a large amount of text over a period of
> time, rather than "ur 599 wx not vy gud" etc. I set the packet length to 
> 16,
> the smallest possible, with the idea of maximising the chances of 
> receiving
> un-corrupted packets under weak signal conditions, at the expense of
> increased ARQ overheads. Timing out seems to be a problem; there are 
> options
> to configure number of retries and timeout period, which it would probably
> be sensible to set to more than the default 5 retries / 60s timeout due to
> the nature of the QSB on 500kHz. Also, there does not seem to be a way of
> forcing a disconnection if you lose contact with the other station - I 
> think
> this was causing trouble when I  was trying to "connect" G4WGT after G0NBD
> had timed out.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
>
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Follow on from last night 

Running Fldig in 'farq'  mode at 503 Khz centre frequency 

Beacon  set every 60  seconds 

Pls try connect and leave a message 

mycal set to  G0NBD



Set 

USB  501 Khz 
Audio set 2000 Hz 
Mode mfsk 16 

Farq running , 


Software from :-

http://www.w1hkj.com/Fldigi.html 



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From: "Dave G3WCB" <ganymede444@btopenworld.com>
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Yes, good news indeed.

It's going to be hard to hit +10dBW...time to put in a bid for that big
power tetrode on e-bay. 7.5 kW should do the trick ;-)

ebay - 160225388175

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
  -----Original Message-----
  From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Mark
  Sent: 18 February 2009 11:42
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
  Subject: LF: New NOV


  Gents
  I am please to report that a new NOV for 500KHz just arrived.
  The new NOV runs until 28 Feb 2010 and allows +10dBW,  501 to 504 KHz with
immediate effect.

  Work will therefore start on the transverter here, though 10W ERP will not
be possible from this antenna.
  Filed strengths will be too high and I may have serious voltage rating
issues.

  Many thanks to all those quietly involved in the background in getting the
NOV extended
  mark GM4ISM
  www.dc2light.co.uk

  Grabber and WSPR decoder  24/7 subject to external influences (eg 3 days
with no internet last week!)

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<DIV><SPAN class=3D116312520-18022009>ebay - </SPAN><SPAN   class=3D11631252=
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Dave G3WCB IO91RM</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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ma     size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
  owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]<B>On Behalf Of=20
  </B>Mark<BR><B>Sent:</B> 18 February 2009 11:42<BR><B>To:</B>=20
  rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> LF: New=20
  NOV<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Gents</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am please to report that a new NOV for=20=
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The new NOV runs until 28 Feb 2010 and al=
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y have=20
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Many thanks to all those quietly involved=
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Hello Andy,

Have transmission decoded now.

2208 -23 -0.8   0.503922  0 G4JNT IO90 23

Vy 73 de Gerhard  /  DK6NI


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Hello Andy, Group,

are you still transmitting?

Vy 73 de Gerhard  /  DK6NI

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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von Andy Talbot
Gesendet: Montag, 23. Februar 2009 22:38
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Betreff: LF: WSPR - a philosophical question.

Mostly in Jest, but food for thought...

The WSPR database with its complete record of who has heard whom with
date, time , frequency, locator, report and stated Tx power opens up
an interesting philosophical concept.

If the database records that A has heard B, and B has heard A, then
the stations have exchanged reports, location and a piece of unique
information.   By any reckoning this constitutes a QSO - even for
contest purposes.   So now, I don't have to sit in front of a rig
waffling or tapping,  or even be in the shack, or even awake, to have
a valid QSO.   I can be on continuously, 24/7/52.14775  to take
advantage of lifts and anti-social-hours propagation.

Lets do this on all the bands!  Choose a modulation type matched to
the RF medium and bandwidth, and just get on with it.
Throw away those microphones, and definitely those funny tappy 19th
centuary things.

There is one downside: a permanant internet connection to upload
real-time reports.   BUT this could even herald a rebirth for packet
radio if local amateurs could set up simple forwarding nodes to
suitable internet connections?


Andy  G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com




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Hi Jay, LF,

OK the Stream software, had no joy with the software but not tried your set
up suggestion, may try another time. Went back to Multipsk but nothing seen
up to 0005utc so shut down & went to bed.

73

Gary - G4WGT.

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of
jrusgrove@comcast.net
Sent: 07 February 2009 23:15
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: WE2XGR/2 in MFSK8

FLdigi also works well http://www.w1hkj.com/Fldigi.html .

Jay

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rik Strobbe" <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 5:20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: WE2XGR/2 in MFSK8


Here Stream and Multipsk are working side by side for almost 1 hour  
now (fingers crossed).
However no copy so far.
I leave them running overnight.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

Quoting jrusgrove@comcast.net:

> Gary
>
> The program keeps running okay here.
>
> A couple other points though. Unlike Multipsk one has to specify the
> lower edge of the bandpass - not the middle. This is 120 Hz below the
> center. In other words if 800 Hz is your received audio center
> frequency set the frequency to 680. Maybe there is a way to set it to
> the center...if so I havn't found it.
>
> The bigger problem is with other applications running at the same time.
> Just opened an internet browser and copy went to garbage. MultiPSK kept
> decoding properly.
>
> Jay
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 4:54 PM
> Subject: RE: LF: WE2XGR/2 in MFSK8
>
>
>> Jay, LF,
>>
>> I also downloaded Stream & it runs for about 30 seconds & freezes.
>>
>> 73 - Gary - G4WGT.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of
>> jrusgrove@comcast.net
>> Sent: 07 February 2009 21:42
>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>> Subject: Re: LF: WE2XGR/2 in MFSK8
>>
>> Rik and group
>>
>> Confirming start at 2130Z.
>>
>> Downloaded Stream earlier and was unable to get it to work. MultiPSK
works
>> fine. May very well be
>> cockpit error. Will  look into it.
>>
>> Jay
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rik Strobbe"   
>> <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 4:28 PM
>> Subject: Re: LF: WE2XGR/2 in MFSK8
>>
>>
>>> Jay,
>>>
>>> It just downloaded / installed stream (IZ8BLY).
>>> RX / PC is on 508.5 overnight
>>>
>>> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
>>>
>>> Quoting jrusgrove@comcast.net:
>>>
>>>> WE2XGR/2 will be transmitting in MFSK8 mode on 508.5 kHz from 2130Z -
>>>> 0000Z tonight. Reports are appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> When using MultiPSK as the decoder be advised that the program has been
>>>> known to occasionally go on 'walkabout' after loss of signal. Stopping
>>>> and restarting the decoder seems to solve the problem.
>>>>
>>>> Jay  W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Hello Jay, LFers,

The signal stopped around 2332Z here and there's been nothing since.
I hope you've not had a problem with weather as some of the other
states did.  I'll continue to watch in case you get back on.

73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
Solar and wind powered
Lowfer " EAR"  188.830
EN93dr

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Warren,
Sorry ! I thought that it was you because the signal is on your frequency
( it is visible on grabber W3EEE ) to see captures .
73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

Warren Ziegler a =E9crit :
> Hi Jean-Pierre,
>
>      That was not me at 23:20, I was not on at all last night!
> I have been off the past two days because of weather and 160m operation.
>  =20

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Graham,

that's what I got here:

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Hi Jim ..l yes the email has arrived all 100 %

tnx- G

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>
> Follow on from last night Running Fldig in 'farq'  mode at 503 Khz
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> leave a message mycal set to  G0NBD
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>
>
> Set USB  501 Khz Audio set 2000 Hz Mode mfsk 16 Farq running , Software
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Hi Warren,Lf
capture XGJ
Henny cpm
73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
XGJ 16-02.jpg

Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld.

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Warren,Lf</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>capture XGJ</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Henny cpm</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>73s</FONT></DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het volgende 
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 South o' Watford there be foreigners! East o' Cambridge 'r' Fenn Tygers! North 'o'the Wall 'r' Picts 'n' Savages 'n' Vykin' 'eathens! West o' Bristle 'r' Wayleans! Thereby York 'r' Tykers what 'r'? 't odds wi' Lancassers. All Godds blesseds 'r' Earl o' Warwiks menn an' 'em 'r' foine cyder drin'ers an' howd the Crown true 'n' tried! Nouw howd your wheesht get a noights shlep 'n' houp we dun getcha whoil ye shlept.

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On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 04:20:35 -0800 (PST)
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> I was brought up in Geordie-land. I went to college in Manchester and
> had arguments about how Manchester was in the South of England !! I
> still think I'm right....... Brian (G3YKB)


I was also born and bred in Geordie-land and also went to University
in Manchester, and had the same arguments! 

I used to say that the south started at the M62 and the midlands
stretched from the M62 to the River Wear.


I even married a Scouser who thinks that Liverpool is in the north.....!

Of course now, EVERYTHING in the UK is "down south" for us, but she
still thinks she's a Northerner, poor lass!

John
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<div> <font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">South o' Watford there be foreigners! East o' Cambridge 'r' Fenn Tygers! North 'o'the Wall 'r' Picts 'n' Savages 'n' Vykin' 'eathens! West o' Bristle 'r' Wayleans! Thereby York 'r' Tykers what 'r'&nbsp; 't odds wi' Lancassers. All Godds blesseds 'r' Earl o' Warwiks menn an' 'em 'r' foine cyder drin'ers an' howd the Crown true 'n' tried! Nouw howd your wheesht get a noights shlep 'n' houp we dun getcha whoil ye shlept.<br>
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<pre style="font-size: 9pt;"><tt>On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 04:20:35 -0800 (PST)<br>
brian hodgson &lt;<a href="mailto:g3ykb@yahoo.co.uk">g3ykb@yahoo.co.uk</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
<br>
&gt; I was brought up in Geordie-land. I went to college in Manchester and<br>
&gt; had arguments about how Manchester was in the South of England !! I<br>
&gt; still think I'm right....... Brian (G3YKB)<br>
<br>
<br>
I was also born and bred in Geordie-land and also went to University<br>
in Manchester, and had the same arguments! <br>
<br>
I used to say that the south started at the M62 and the midlands<br>
stretched from the M62 to the River Wear.<br>
<br>
<br>
I even married a Scouser who thinks that Liverpool is in the north.....!<br>
<br>
Of course now, EVERYTHING in the UK is "down south" for us, but she<br>
still thinks she's a Northerner, poor lass!<br>
<br>
John<br>
GM4SLV<br>
Shetland.....<br>
<br>
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The TIL Grabber has reconfigured RX antennas to favour the over the pole 
path and has begun listening runs at QRSS60 at the request of our 
colleagues in central Russia in the 2200m wateringhole (137775-137781Hz).

Sorry that means my null is now aimed at the boys on the east coast of 
the USA...

Keep tabs on the fun and excitement here:
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I noticed some of the web sites still have links to my old email account the=
re in Okie

Heres the new ones for the loop for info..

=20

http://kl1x.com/loop1500.jpg


 http://kl1x.com/house.jpg

=20
> From: dave.riley3@verizon.net
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 20:10:27 -0500
> Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: LF Antennas - back to basics
>=20
> > Dave
> >
> > If you believe this I have a bridge you might be interested in=20
> > purchasing...
> >
> > Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2
>=20
>=20
>=20
> No thanks, I have enuf worms for fishing...
>=20
> Besides, I'm lazy and one run of wire outperforms my messy attempts @=20
> loading the trees with HV wires that detune with humidity...
>=20
> We installed a short flat top on the Sea Venture ( WJMV ) and I could tell=
=20
> you what the relative humidity was by the antenna current...
> Some dielectric measuring device, eh??
>=20
> 10A into the ground radial common point is power wasted that could have be=
en=20
> released into the air...
> I'm talking about my crummy ground conductivity here ( silica sand ), not=20=
on=20
> a ship or @ a salt water location...
>=20
> I think!!
>=20
> What bridge?? An RF one??
>=20
> Dave
>=20
>=20
>=20
> ----- Original Message -----=20
> From: <jrusgrove@comcast.net>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 6:19 PM
> Subject: LF: Re: Re: LF Antennas - back to basics
>=20
>=20
> >> No wasted power going into and out of the ground...
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > If you believe this I have a bridge you might be interested in=20
> > purchasing...
> >
> > Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----=20
> > From: "dave.riley3" <dave.riley3@verizon.net>
> > To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>; <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 11:53 AM
> > Subject: LF: Re: LF Antennas - back to basics
> >
> >
> >> Glad you asked, Andy... Hope this one makes it past the spam filter....
> >>
> >> Back in the commercial AM transmitter biz days I buried miles of extra=20
> >> copper in to poor conductivity soil and gained little or nothing.
> >> Then came Bill Ashloop who proved that a small transmit loop can do qui=
te=20
> >> well.
> >> http://www.wireless.org.uk/loopy.htm
> >> http://www.w1tag.com/XESANT.htm
> >>
> >> So I surveryed the back yard which sits on very poor conductivity soil=20
> >> and therefore makes a loop appear to me more in free space and here are=
=20
> >> the advantages that I have found to date:
> >>
> >> No high voltage wire ends to start tree fires. No wasted power going in=
to=20
> >> and out of the ground...
> >>
> >> Much less wire used in a LOOP transmit antenna. This #4 stranded HV wir=
e=20
> >> rests inside of 100' sections of garden hose and is hoisted into trees=20
> >> with help of compound bow and pull line.
> >>
> >> No top loading, no radials, much less noise on RX, E-Z to tune and=20
> >> weather does not affect the tuning much such as from rain or snow, and=20=
it=20
> >> acts like a good vertical regardless of being much simpler.
> >>
> >> As for the CONS, well I just don't think of any... Somebody??
> >>
> >> It works very well from 600M to 6M and is the only real antenna that I=20
> >> still have.
> >>
> >> Various feeds as noted below will let you tune it down to SAQ@17kc whic=
h=20
> >> I always hear and also makes for superb DX on 6M in 'some directions'.
> >>
> >> ref: http://www.radiocom.net/600M/LOOP109.jpg
> >>
> >> Wish I had a El-Nec printout but can't seem to fit this version in to i=
t.
> >>
> >> QSL SURE VIA E-MAIL
> >> 090226 0406 1 -29 0.0 0.503869 G4JNT IO90 23
> >> 090226 0610 3 -29 0.0 0.503869 G4JNT IO90 23
> >>
> >> Have a quiet night and TNX from Dave @ WD2XSH/17
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >> From: "Andy Talbot" <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>
> >> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> >> Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 11:16 AM
> >> Subject: LF: LF Antennas - back to basics
> >>
> >>
> >>> Having now been encouraged by being decoded now by at least two US
> >>> stations, was wondering how much improvement in efficiency I could
> >>> scrape out of my existing antenna. It is a Marconi Tee, the vertical
> >>> element consisting of three wires from the base tapering to 200mm
> >>> spacing at the top. There it is attached to the centre of a a
> >>> capacity hat 15m long and 200mm wide made of three parallel wires.
> >>>
> >>> The ground system is a bit haphazard in my 7m wide by 12m long garden,
> >>> with about 4 wires meeting at the base of the antenna meandering
> >>> around the garden, starting off in different directions from teh base.
> >>> They are all connected to substantial ground rods in heavy clay at
> >>> their far points, a with a few randomly spaced rods in between (I used
> >>> several 1m lengths of 15mm water pipe as well as proper rods - there
> >>> is probably about 9 or 10 rods in total, mostly 1 - 2m in length -
> >>> can't remember that far back! Some of the earth conductors were also
> >>> bonded to the house wiring by a couple of substantial straps, and even
> >>> inside the house I added more straps at strategic places. I also
> >>> ensured there was a good fat cable run directly under as much of the
> >>> capacity hat as possible. As a test, disconnecting the PME earthing
> >>> bond and measuring the DC resistance between my total set of
> >>> connections and the incoming conductor ground/neutral point, the value
> >>> was a pretty consistent 3 ohms. Haven't done this test for a few
> >>> years, but at the last check it was still of this order.
> >>>
> >>> Back in the 73kHz days a number of (mostly big!) stations were
> >>> surprised my signal was as strong as it was for probably the smallest
> >>> antenna in use then; G3LDO put it down to the fact I had concentrated
> >>> plenty of earthing wire to run directly under the top-hat.
> >>>
> >>> But, its all 14 years old, still OK, but hopefully there's a wealth
> >>> of experience now, and I wonder if there are obvious improvements that
> >>> could be made:
> >>>
> >>> Firstly, bearing in mind there is no scope whatsoever to raise one end
> >>> of the capacity hat which is defined by the apex of the house roof,
> >>> and the other end would also need some major sugery to raise its heigh
> >>> substantially, that only leaves the middle, ie the height of the
> >>> actual radiator. It wouldn't be too difficult to raise this to 10m
> >>> or even more with a fibreglass pole, but will I be throwing away all
> >>> the advantage by having the top-hat drooping down to 7m?
> >>>
> >>> Secondly, pictures of other peoples antennas aften show a substantial
> >>> grounding plate immediately under and around the antenna base. Just
> >>> how far out is is worth going with a really substantial base. I
> >>> could cut more conductors into the ground; while the ground is still
> >>> is still soggy in March may be a good time to do this.
> >>>
> >>> Any ideas please ...?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Andy G4JNT
> >>> www.g4jnt.com
> >>>
> >>
> >=20
>=20
>=20

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I noticed some of the web sites still have links to&nbsp;my old email accoun=
t&nbsp;there in Okie<BR>
Heres the new ones for the loop for info..<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
<A href=3D"http://kl1x.com/loop1500.jpg">http://kl1x.com/loop1500.jpg</A><BR=
>
<BR>&nbsp;<A href=3D"http://kl1x.com/house.jpg">http://kl1x.com/house.jpg</A=
><BR>
&nbsp;<BR>&gt; From: dave.riley3@verizon.net<BR>&gt; To: rsgb_lf_group@black=
sheep.org<BR>&gt; Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 20:10:27 -0500<BR>&gt; Subject: LF:=
 Re: Re: Re: LF Antennas - back to basics<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; Dave<BR>&gt;=
 &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; If you believe this I have a bridge you might be interest=
ed in <BR>&gt; &gt; purchasing...<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; Jay W1VD WD2XNS=20=
WE2XGR/2<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; No thanks, I have enuf worms for=
 fishing...<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Besides, I'm lazy and one run of wire outperfor=
ms my messy attempts @ <BR>&gt; loading the trees with HV wires that detune=20=
with humidity...<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; We installed a short flat top on the Sea V=
enture ( WJMV ) and I could tell <BR>&gt; you what the relative humidity was=
 by the antenna current...<BR>&gt; Some dielectric measuring device, eh??<BR=
>&gt; <BR>&gt; 10A into the ground radial common point is power wasted that=20=
could have been <BR>&gt; released into the air...<BR>&gt; I'm talking about=20=
my crummy ground conductivity here ( silica sand ), not on <BR>&gt; a ship o=
r @ a salt water location...<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; I think!!<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Wha=
t bridge?? An RF one??<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Dave<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&=
gt; ----- Original Message ----- <BR>&gt; From: &lt;jrusgrove@comcast.net&gt=
;<BR>&gt; To: &lt;rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org&gt;<BR>&gt; Sent: Friday, Feb=
ruary 27, 2009 6:19 PM<BR>&gt; Subject: LF: Re: Re: LF Antennas - back to ba=
sics<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; &gt;&gt; No wasted power going into and out o=
f the ground...<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; Dave<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; If=20=
you believe this I have a bridge you might be interested in <BR>&gt; &gt; pu=
rchasing...<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2<BR>&gt; &gt;<=
BR>&gt; &gt; ----- Original Message ----- <BR>&gt; &gt; From: "dave.riley3"=20=
&lt;dave.riley3@verizon.net&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; To: &lt;rsgb_lf_group@blackshee=
p.org&gt;; &lt;andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; Sent: Thursday, Fe=
bruary 26, 2009 11:53 AM<BR>&gt; &gt; Subject: LF: Re: LF Antennas - back to=
 basics<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt; Glad you asked, Andy... H=
ope this one makes it past the spam filter...<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;&=
gt; Back in the commercial AM transmitter biz days I buried miles of extra <=
BR>&gt; &gt;&gt; copper in to poor conductivity soil and gained little or no=
thing.<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt; Then came Bill Ashloop who proved that a small trans=
mit loop can do quite <BR>&gt; &gt;&gt; well.<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt; http://www.wi=
reless.org.uk/loopy.htm<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt; http://www.w1tag.com/XESANT.htm<BR>=
&gt; &gt;&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt; So I surveryed the back yard which sits on ve=
ry poor conductivity soil <BR>&gt; &gt;&gt; and therefore makes a loop appea=
r to me more in free space and here are <BR>&gt; &gt;&gt; the advantages tha=
t I have found to date:<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt; No high voltage wi=
re ends to start tree fires. No wasted power going into <BR>&gt; &gt;&gt; an=
d out of the ground...<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt; Much less wire used=
 in a LOOP transmit antenna. This #4 stranded HV wire <BR>&gt; &gt;&gt; rest=
s inside of 100' sections of garden hose and is hoisted into trees <BR>&gt;=20=
&gt;&gt; with help of compound bow and pull line.<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;<BR>&gt; &=
gt;&gt; No top loading, no radials, much less noise on RX, E-Z to tune and <=
BR>&gt; &gt;&gt; weather does not affect the tuning much such as from rain o=
r snow, and it <BR>&gt; &gt;&gt; acts like a good vertical regardless of bei=
ng much simpler.<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt; As for the CONS, well I j=
ust don't think of any... Somebody??<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt; It wo=
rks very well from 600M to 6M and is the only real antenna that I <BR>&gt; &=
gt;&gt; still have.<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt; Various feeds as noted=
 below will let you tune it down to SAQ@17kc which <BR>&gt; &gt;&gt; I alway=
s hear and also makes for superb DX on 6M in 'some directions'.<BR>&gt; &gt;=
&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt; ref: http://www.radiocom.net/600M/LOOP109.jpg<BR>&gt;=20=
&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt; Wish I had a El-Nec printout but can't seem to fit=
 this version in to it.<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt; QSL SURE VIA E-MAI=
L<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt; 090226 0406 1 -29 0.0 0.503869 G4JNT IO90 23<BR>&gt; &gt;=
&gt; 090226 0610 3 -29 0.0 0.503869 G4JNT IO90 23<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;<BR>&gt; &=
gt;&gt; Have a quiet night and TNX from Dave @ WD2XSH/17<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;<BR=
>&gt; &gt;&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;<BR>&gt; &g=
t;&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt; ----- Original Mes=
sage ----- <BR>&gt; &gt;&gt; From: "Andy Talbot" &lt;andy.g4jnt@googlemail.c=
om&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt; To: &lt;rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt=
;&gt; Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 11:16 AM<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt; Subject: L=
F: LF Antennas - back to basics<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;<BR>&gt; &g=
t;&gt;&gt; Having now been encouraged by being decoded now by at least two U=
S<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; stations, was wondering how much improvement in effic=
iency I could<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; scrape out of my existing antenna. It is=20=
a Marconi Tee, the vertical<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; element consisting of three=
 wires from the base tapering to 200mm<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; spacing at the t=
op. There it is attached to the centre of a a<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; capacity=20=
hat 15m long and 200mm wide made of three parallel wires.<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&g=
t;<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; The ground system is a bit haphazard in my 7m wide b=
y 12m long garden,<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; with about 4 wires meeting at the ba=
se of the antenna meandering<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; around the garden, startin=
g off in different directions from teh base.<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; They are a=
ll connected to substantial ground rods in heavy clay at<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt=
; their far points, a with a few randomly spaced rods in between (I used<BR>=
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; several 1m lengths of 15mm water pipe as well as proper ro=
ds - there<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; is probably about 9 or 10 rods in total, mos=
tly 1 - 2m in length -<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; can't remember that far back! So=
me of the earth conductors were also<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; bonded to the hous=
e wiring by a couple of substantial straps, and even<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; in=
side the house I added more straps at strategic places. I also<BR>&gt; &gt;&=
gt;&gt; ensured there was a good fat cable run directly under as much of the=
<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; capacity hat as possible. As a test, disconnecting the=
 PME earthing<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; bond and measuring the DC resistance betw=
een my total set of<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; connections and the incoming conduc=
tor ground/neutral point, the value<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; was a pretty consis=
tent 3 ohms. Haven't done this test for a few<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; years, bu=
t at the last check it was still of this order.<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;=
 &gt;&gt;&gt; Back in the 73kHz days a number of (mostly big!) stations were=
<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; surprised my signal was as strong as it was for probab=
ly the smallest<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; antenna in use then; G3LDO put it down=20=
to the fact I had concentrated<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; plenty of earthing wire=20=
to run directly under the top-hat.<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;=
 But, its all 14 years old, still OK, but hopefully there's a wealth<BR>&gt;=
 &gt;&gt;&gt; of experience now, and I wonder if there are obvious improveme=
nts that<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; could be made:<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt; &g=
t;&gt;&gt; Firstly, bearing in mind there is no scope whatsoever to raise on=
e end<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; of the capacity hat which is defined by the apex=20=
of the house roof,<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; and the other end would also need so=
me major sugery to raise its heigh<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; substantially, that=20=
only leaves the middle, ie the height of the<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; actual rad=
iator. It wouldn't be too difficult to raise this to 10m<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt=
; or even more with a fibreglass pole, but will I be throwing away all<BR>&g=
t; &gt;&gt;&gt; the advantage by having the top-hat drooping down to 7m?<BR>=
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Secondly, pictures of other peoples a=
ntennas aften show a substantial<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; grounding plate immedi=
ately under and around the antenna base. Just<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; how far o=
ut is is worth going with a really substantial base. I<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;=20=
could cut more conductors into the ground; while the ground is still<BR>&gt;=
 &gt;&gt;&gt; is still soggy in March may be a good time to do this.<BR>&gt;=
 &gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Any ideas please ...?<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt=
;<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Andy G4JNT<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;=20=
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Hi Warren,
capture XGJ
Henny cpm
73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
xgj 02-02.jpg

Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld.

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Warren,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>capture XGJ</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Henny cpm</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>73s</FONT></DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het volgende 
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John,

Oh dear .. that's not supposed to  happen .. hope its not my fault !
but looking at the traces .. not that many dbs  difference in the peak 
levels

G ..



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Subject: Re: LF: Olivia 500 x 8  MFSK16  NOW RUNNING

>
> G, LF,
>
> Now getting 100% copy of the MFSK16, but only snatches of any
> recognisable characters fromteh Olivia!
>
> J
>
>
>
> On Wed, 4 Feb 2009 21:11:51 -0000
> "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Modes changed
>>
>> MT63   STOPPED
>>
>> MFSK16 ,  Centre freq   1000 Hz audio
>>
>> Approx  15 watts peak per stream
>>
>> Thanks for reports .. will run this config  an hour or so
>>
>> G ..
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 7:39 PM
>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Subject: LF: If anyones about , MT63  x 500 Hz and Olivia 500 x 8
>> running now 1935 hrs
>>
>> >
>> > As a follow on to some tests  with Gary  , with Olivia  500 x 8 and
>> > the original MT63 system
>> >
>> > Running  two  data streams now at about 10  watts per mode , carrier
>> > frequencies are :-
>> >
>> > mt63   501.5 to  502 Khz
>> >
>> > olivia 500x8  503 Khz +/-  250 Hz
>> >
>> > The book says mt63 should not print as well as olivia .....
>> >
>> > tnx - G ..
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>> >
>> >
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>> >
>> >
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>> >
>> > No virus found in this incoming message.
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>
>



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Graham wrote:

> Mode change
>
>> From the initial reports it looks like the MT63 system is not as 
>> robust at 
>
> the olivia 500 x 8
>
> I will  change the MT63  mode to  MFSK16  , at  1000 Hz audio cent , ( 
> 502 Khz  rf cent )
>
> As mfsk will pass via a non linear system , this may be of wider interest
>
> Change time  >>> 2100 Hrs gmt <<<<

Dear Graham, LF  Group
i do not remeber if  there was a test performed  on 500 kHz  using 
another  multi-tone FSK  transmission
 namely, THROB  - it is available in multipsk package of digi-modes. i 
think it should be superior to mfsk16
at  MF  especially when using lower rates 1 or 2  pulses per second  .in 
such case the bandwidth is 72 Hz
prabably it is still too  'fast'  but if the  speed of pulses (throbes)  
would be lowered it could  be  another managable mode on LF/MF
unfortunately , your test transmissions using different digi modes is 
still too 'local' for me ..   but Jim,, MBU, JOhn, SLV might come
 out with positive decoding  - so i look at the new e-mails .... :)
                                                                                                         
73, peter, sq7mpj
qth: lodz, poland /jo91rs/


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----- Original Message ----- 
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nil for Joe
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Gary,

the gap in my data is due to the fact that I was using the RX / =20
antenna otherwise.
Just one remark regarding the data: keep in mind that it is SNR (not =20
signal strength). I have my LF antenna at a rather remote location in =20
the garden. Nearest houses, street light and other possible QRM =20
sources are at least 50m from the antenna and at my own house most =20
local QRM sources have been eliminated. This might explain the =20
relative "good" values.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

Quoting Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>:

> Hi LF,
>
>
>
> I have created a MS Excel spread-sheet for my WSPRing last night. I have
> uploaded it to my website as it is too large for the LF group forum. On
> three worksheets there is a graph in marker format, a graph in line format=
 &
> the data from the five stations who reported to the WSPR Spots page.
>
>
>
> It is my first attempt at an Excel chart, please let me know what you thin=
k.
> It can be downloaded at :-
>
>
>
> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/WSPR01.xls
>
>
>
> 73,
>
>
>
> Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.
>
>
>
>



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Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
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On Sat, 7 Feb 2009 21:54:30 -0000
"Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

> Jay, LF,
> 
> I also downloaded Stream & it runs for about 30 seconds & freezes.
> 
> 73 - Gary - G4WGT.


Yep, same here.

Looking now with MultiPSK - nothing seen/heard/decoded as yet.

John



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Hi folks,

DI2BO's experimental license is valid for two frequencise, 440 kHz and 505.1=
 kHz (both +/- 100 Hz). Currently the beacon is transmitting on 440.015 kHz=20=
in QRSS3 and ID in CW. ERP is in the 50 mW range.=20

Status of the beacon can be seen at www.qru.de/di2bo. Reports are welcome (a=
s usual).


Vy 73

Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO=20




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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi folks,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>DI2BO's experimental license is valid for t=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Vy 73</FONT></DIV>
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Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2009 16:51:07 +0100
From: henny van elst <cpm@planet.nl>
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Hi Warren,
capture xgj
henny cpm
73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
xgj 03-02.jpg

Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld.

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Warren,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>capture xgj</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>henny cpm</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>73s</FONT></DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het volgende 
bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:<BR>xgj 03-02.jpg<BR><BR>Opmerking: 
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ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de 
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Just for a bit of novelty, I'm running probably the lowest power WSPR
signal seen on this band.   Frequency 503.87kHz (set the usual USB
carrier 502.4) RF power is -2dBm, so ERP is in the region of -27dBm.
Duty cycle 33% (well, actually, 34.375%, but who's counting)

Judging by some of the WSPR reports on my signal when runing 100 Watts
in the past, a few local stations may just be able to decode it.

As for PN sequences, I admited defeat and just wrote down a series of
ones and zeros then played with them till they looked right and had
the correct numbers of each in a  32 bit pattern (which is why 33% and
20% duty cycle values aren't spot-on)
On the assumptuin that its not random at all, why try to generate
other than by eye?

Interesting to know Joe had a similar headache over this issue, Scott.
 Clearly it isn't a 'mountain out of a molehill' problem after all.


Andy  G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com


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Many thanks to Jean-Pierre, Henny, Victor and Willem for the
recent reports.  The strong receptions in the Netherlands on
the 17th were quite amazing, and Alan's ability to predict
favourable transatlantic conditions is remarkable!

73 and thanks to all
Joe


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Graham, LF,

I've had a look but can't see any sign of either transmission.

I'll keep watching for a while.

John
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On Wed, 4 Feb 2009 19:39:13 -0000
"Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

> As a follow on to some tests  with Gary  , with Olivia  500 x 8 and
> the original MT63 system
> 
> Running  two  data streams now at about 10  watts per mode , carrier 
> frequencies are :-
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> olivia 500x8  503 Khz +/-  250 Hz
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> The book says mt63 should not print as well as olivia .....
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Good morning,
i copied from midnight until 5am on 137.778 RN3AGC and on 137.777 UA4WPF
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Hello Andrey,RN3AGC last night.
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Just notice some activity on Markus' 136 kHz grabber, possibly from OE ?

HPE cul,
  73, Wolf .


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Hello Roman,

> Whats a schedule of DI2BO? 24h on the air?

Yes, 24/7 (24 hours, 7 days a week). Status can be seen on
http://www.qru.de/di2bo

Vy 73

Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO


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> Hi Geri & LF!
> Whats a schedule of DI2BO? 24h on the air?
>
> * "Holger 'Geri', DK8KW" <geri@dk8kw.de> [Mon, 16 Feb 2009 18:20:28
> +0100]:
> > Hi folks,
> >
> > DI2BO's experimental license is valid for two frequencise, 440 kHz and
> > 505.1 kHz (both +/- 100 Hz). Currently the beacon is transmitting on
> > 440.015 kHz in QRSS3 and ID in CW. ERP is in the 50 mW range.
> >
> > Status of the beacon can be seen at www.qru.de/di2bo. Reports are
> > welcome (as usual).
> >
> >
> > Vy 73
> >
> > Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Roman RW3ADB.
>



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I already have probably one of the simplest (not sure about cheapest )
5MHz monitoring stations.   Active whip feeding into an SDR-lite Rx
feding into a cheap boot-sale (=A320 quid) laptop.  It doesn't need
internet conenction for 5MHz logging, but could have it if needed.

The only proviso is that the monitoring software ideally has I/Q
stereo channel inputs to give the sideband isolation, which many
laptops don't have.   For narrowband purposes, a simple RC phasing
network can be used instead (see RadCom Data column a few months ago.
 For 500kHz with a ferrite rod, an even simpler Rx ought to be
feasible.

Andy  G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com



2009/2/23 Mark <markhughes1@blueyonder.co.uk>:
> Hi all,
> Not withstanding the fickle nature of propagation, my WSPR / Grabber recei=
ve
> antenna is not the most efficient, and does suffer from an elevated noise
> floor compared to my main station antenna.
> Signals are typically 6dB stronger on the inverted L, though I have not
> spent any great effort quantifying the differences.
> One of the true benefits of WSPR is measurement of signal level variations
> at one location, but to get =A0meaningful data on relative strength betwee=
n
> stations would take many receive stations with identical equipment.
> That is of course eminently possible, a cheap PC and a standard ferrite ro=
d
> active receive system + simple SDR would enable a major propagation study.
> Most amateurs have a PC and internet, if a cheap design were published for=
 a
> WSPR monitor station, we could potentially get many listening stations QRV
> and gather a lot of interesting data. not many transmitters need be on, so
> no problem for non NOV holders.
> With other 'front ends' any band could be monitored.
>
> How cheap can we make such a system, is anyone interested?
> Mark GM4ISM
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Talbot" <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.co=
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> Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 9:20 PM
> Subject: Re: LF: More WSPRing
>
>
>> That's very interesting - =A0I appear to be 10 - 15dB better S/N with
>> you Johan (-5db S/N) at 1200km, than with GM4ISM (-20dB S/N) at 577km.
>>
>> Background noise levels ?
>> Sea path ?
>>
>> Andy =A0G4JNT
>> www.g4jnt.com
>>
>>
>>
>> 2009/2/23 Johan H. Bodin <jh.bodin@telia.com>:
>>>
>>> Solid copy in JO67MR Andy, including the CW ID!
>>>
>>>
>>> 73
>>> Johan SM6LKM
>>>
>>> Andy Talbot wrote:
>>>>
>>>> 503.870 +23dBm ERP running now, =A034.375% duty cycle ...
>>>>
>>>> Andy =A0G4JNT
>>>> www.g4jnt.com
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Rik & group

Confirming start of PSKFEC31 at 2130Z. Not too optimistic on this mode but we'll see. 

GL and thanks for listening / watching. 

Jay


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> Jay,
> 
> I am listening, will you give a confirmation when you take off ?
> 
> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
> 
> Quoting jrusgrove@comcast.net:
> 
>> WE2XGR/2 will be transmitting in PSKFEC31 mode tonight on 508.5 kHz
>> starting 2130Z and will continue until at least 0100Z and perhaps
>> beyond.
>>
>> PSKFEC31 (PSK31 with forward error correction) can be decoded with the
>> colorful program MultiPSK - available at http://www.f6cte.free.fr/ .
>> Sunglasses are recommended for the first time user. As far as I know
>> there are no other programs that can decode this mode. If anyone has
>> info to the contrary please advise.
>>
>> Some background info on PSKFEC31 and other digital modes as well as
>> tests run by W1TAG and myself can be found at
>> http://www.w1tag.com/600M_Modes.htm .
>>
>> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
> 
> 
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Hello Warren, LF!
One picture of XGJ signal this morning.

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

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Ok Sorry Rik , used to  add those details

Im using the MULTIPSK  all mode software  by F6CTE

http://f6cte.free.fr/index_anglais.htm

Its a pretty good package .. not to  big a file and the decode  is vert good 
, also  you can  open more than one
session , just click the icon, so its hand for this type of test ....

Its a little 'vivid'  when you first see it .. all button  driven ..  but 
from the set up  screen just  allocate the soundcard and thats it

.. there are others .. but this if fine .. !

G .

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>
> Graham,
>
> if I had the right software installed probably yes.
> Any suggestion what software (preferable freeware) I should use (and
> where to find it) ?
>
> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
>
> Quoting Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>:
>
>> Thanks Rik
>>
>> Can you decode them ?
>>
>> Im just running  two sessions of multipsk , dial set 501 Khz usb , the
>> mt63 is  fixed in frequency , 500 to  1000 hz , olivia is cent on  503
>> khz carrier .......round  10 to  15 watts each stream
>>
>> G ..
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Rik Strobbe" <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 7:55 PM
>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Subject: Re: LF: If anyones about , MT63  x 500 Hz and Olivia 500 x
>> 8running now 1935 hrs
>>
>>>
>>> both signals audible in JO20IX
>>>
>>> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
>>>
>>> Quoting Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>:
>>>
>>>> As a follow on to some tests  with Gary  , with Olivia  500 x 8 and the
>>>> original MT63 system
>>>>
>>>> Running  two  data streams now at about 10  watts per mode , carrier
>>>> frequencies are :-
>>>>
>>>> mt63   501.5 to  502 Khz
>>>>
>>>> olivia 500x8  503 Khz +/-  250 Hz
>>>>
>>>> The book says mt63 should not print as well as olivia .....
>>>>
>>>> tnx - G ..
>>>
>>>
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Ok John well  that looks like a positive result , hihi, but  nt63 is showing 
at a much lower level - ( -10 Db at Gary)  but the  software is giving the 
same levels .. i think its just the  128 tones used in mt63 that make the 
signal look lower .. ive set the audio levels under the agc point .. so  the 
keying of each mode should not alter the level of the other


G ...

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>
>
> Hi Graham, LF,
>
> I've got 2 copies of Multipsk running, as you described earlier, on
> 501.00 dial frequ.
>
> I get the occasional "CQ" and "nbd" in the gibberish on the Olivia
> version, and nothing at all on the MT63 version.
>
> I have heard the odd "two tone warble" that marks the start of an
> Olivia transmission very, very faintly, but no real sign of the FSK
> during the actual message.
>
> Let's see what the QSB does...
>
> John
>
>
>
> On Wed, 4 Feb 2009 20:06:00 -0000
> "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> If you set up  multipsk on the 2 streams  may print from under the
>> noise .. its a follow on from the other night with Gary , where I
>> could not turn the power down low enough to  stop mt63 from
>> printing .. less than 1 watt single tone .. just  barely showing on
>> the waterfall ...  but mt63 is supposed to be 10 db less effective
>> that mfsk .. that's a lot !
>>
>> G ..
>
>



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Thanks Rik

Can you decode them ?

Im just running  two sessions of multipsk , dial set 501 Khz usb , the mt63 
is  fixed in frequency , 500 to  1000 hz , olivia is cent on  503 khz 
carrier .......round  10 to  15 watts each stream

G ..

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now 1935 hrs

>
> both signals audible in JO20IX
>
> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
>
> Quoting Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>:
>
>> As a follow on to some tests  with Gary  , with Olivia  500 x 8 and the
>> original MT63 system
>>
>> Running  two  data streams now at about 10  watts per mode , carrier
>> frequencies are :-
>>
>> mt63   501.5 to  502 Khz
>>
>> olivia 500x8  503 Khz +/-  250 Hz
>>
>> The book says mt63 should not print as well as olivia .....
>>
>> tnx - G ..
>
>
>
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>



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Hi Andy.
 
If the WSPR software has any sort of internal data storage for callsigns,  
then it may be showing the same 'characteristics' that cause so much trouble  
within the EME community.
 
JT65 has a list of known EME stations and a mode which uses a 'deep  search' 
algorithm.
 
Problem is, that the software searches a database from small  fragments 
actually received and has a best guess at a call.  
 
Many EME stations delete the internal database or turn off the deep search  
facility so that only correctly decoded transmissions are displayed.
 
Thanks
 
David  G0MRF
 
 
 
In a message dated 20/02/2009 22:12:10 GMT Standard Time,  
andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com writes:

According to the WSPR Spot database, there is some "interesting"  DX
being received chez GM4ISM.
Is there some carrier or coherent   QRM present to generate these false hits?





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Rik, Andy & group

For WSPR mode transmitter power is 400 watts rf. Antenna is a 90' vertical / tophat. ERP about 40 
watts.

Antenna:  http://www.w1vd.com/XNStxantenna.html (500 kHz loading coil not shown)

Transmitting amplifier: http://www.w1vd.com/9505MF.html

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Andy Talbot" <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>
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> Assume 57dBm refers to Tx power.   What esitimated ERP is WE2XGR running ?
>
> Andy  G4JNT
> www.g4jnt.com
>
>
>
> 2009/2/1  <F4DTL@aol.com>:
>> Hello Jay, nice conditions this night,
>>
>> F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP
>>
>> RX : Icom IC7400
>> Ant: Wellbrook LFL 1010
>> http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/
>>
>>
>> 090201 0156  16 -16  0.8   0.508510  WE2XGR FN31 57
>> 090201 0158  15 -17  0.8   0.508510  WE2XGR FN31 57
>> 090201 0200   5 -26  0.9   0.508510  WE2XGR FN31 57
>>
> 



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Ill be running LF/MF rx operations from Costa Rica from appx 15-20th March 2=
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l be in and out via China -=20
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This location afforded an excellent path to Eu and Americas'  on LF and even=
 though we were surrounded by volcanic mountains I managed to work Argentina=
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ither side...
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I wont have Tx (I think) but call will be as then TI3/ KL 1 X
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>From June or so this coming year it looks like Ill be working out of Abu Dha=
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Laurence BY3A/ KL1 X, G4DMA
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Ill be running LF/MF rx operations from Costa Rica from appx 15-20th March 2=
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for Raleigh International, the Youth Development charity.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
I was last there in 2003 on LF <A href=3D"http://www.kl1x.com/costa.jpg">htt=
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ill be using a probe - but Im expecting better things than last time as weve=
 figured out a few tricks to improve the s/n/. Rx will be SDR IQ and PA0RDT=20=
probe plus LDF's, which are an easier transit as Ill be in and out via China=
 - <BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
This location afforded an excellent path to Eu and Americas'&nbsp; on LF and=
 even though we were surrounded by volcanic mountains I managed to work Arge=
ntina on 6m nearly every night last time around. The coasts arent that far a=
way either side...<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
I wont have Tx (I think) but call will be as then TI3/ KL 1 X<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
>From June or so this coming year it looks like Ill be working out of Abu Dha=
bi A61 for a while - no chance of a license there so it seems but will try t=
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&nbsp;<BR>
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Hi John,

If you set up  multipsk on the 2 streams  may print from under the noise .. 
its a follow on from the other night with Gary , where I could not turn the 
power down low enough to  stop mt63 from printing .. less than 1 watt single 
tone .. just  barely showing on the waterfall ...  but mt63 is supposed to 
be 10 db less effective that mfsk .. that's a lot !

G ..

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>
> Graham, LF,
>
> I've had a look but can't see any sign of either transmission.
>
> I'll keep watching for a while.
>
> John
> GM4SLV
>
> On Wed, 4 Feb 2009 19:39:13 -0000
> "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> As a follow on to some tests  with Gary  , with Olivia  500 x 8 and
>> the original MT63 system
>>
>> Running  two  data streams now at about 10  watts per mode , carrier
>> frequencies are :-
>>
>> mt63   501.5 to  502 Khz
>>
>> olivia 500x8  503 Khz +/-  250 Hz
>>
>> The book says mt63 should not print as well as olivia .....
>>
>> tnx - G ..
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>



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Thanks Henny!
-- 
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
                WE2XEB/2
                WE2XGR/1


2009/2/18 henny van elst <cpm@planet.nl>:
> Hi Warren,Lf
> Capture XGJ
> Henny cpm
> 73s
> Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden
> verzonden:
> XGJ 18-02.jpg
>
> Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen
> het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe.
> Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe
> bijlagen worden afgehandeld.


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OOPS sorry I meant to address this to Victor!


On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 9:13 AM, Warren Ziegler <wd2xgj@gmail.com> wrote:
> Willem,
>     Yes low power last night. The power supply problem is solved,  I
> will soon be QRO again.
> Thanks for the capture, your receiving setup is working very well!
> --
> 73 Warren K2ORS
>                WD2XGJ
>                WD2XSH/23
>                WE2XEB/2
>                WE2XGR/1
>
> On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 12:23 AM,  <victor13@online.nl> wrote:
>> Still qrp Warren?
>>
>> 73
>>
>> Victor
>



-- 
73 Warren K2ORS
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Switched off at 0630 this morning, but unfortunately, according to the
database, no exotic receptions heard - just the usual culprits  'ISM
and XVL!

I see G4WGT was transmitting until around 2350 and note your quoted
power was 37dBm.

I thought we had agreed that for WSPR transmissions on the LF bands,
the power entered in the WSPR message would reflect (to at least a
reasonable approximation)  ERP and not RF power.    Hence my use of a
ridiculous figure (53dBm) when sending at very low power on Saturday.

Only certain power levels seem to be permissible - presumably those in
the pull-down menu in WSPR.EXE (windoze version) and there appear to
be 19.
While playing with WSPR.EXE (command line version) to generate teh
tone codes for my PIC /DDS combination, any value power level could be
entered, but when the subsequent symbol set was decoded, the software
threw up a {bad message] indicator instead of LOC and PWR. Presumably,
this makes for 20 stored power settings.  Its a pity that an illegal
power setting kills the LOC info as well, as the {bad message} code
would otherwise have been a good way to show a variable or non
specified power level.

Back to ERP vs. RF:  Legal values range from 0 to 60dBm, ie 1mW to
1kW.   While this is an ideal range for HF use where the power levels
are unlikely to be exceeded at either end (except by 'JNT on Friday on
10MHz with -2dBm, programmed as 0)  only a subset of values cover the
expected range of ERPs on LF -  0dBm to (now) 40dBm.     To allow for
QRP LF stations, can I suggest the values above 40dBm are used as
follows to reflect ERPs from -20 to 0dBm

Actual ERP = Stored value - 60
So if your ERP is below 0dBm, you programme a value of ERP + 60 into
your message.    This gives a discontinuity, and makes a nonsense of
the MEPTSpot website's ordering in terms of power or km per Watt

To save the discontinuity, another alternative would be to shift the
entire code-set by 20dB to reflect tens of microWatts rather than
milliwatts.   So now the total range would run from
-20dBm = "0"    to
+40dBm = "40"



Andy  G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com


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Hello Markus, LF,
I observed a similar signal in the last evening at ~23z, but on frequency 136430.
10 seconds transmit, 2 seconds a pause and periodically long breaks. Audible S5-S6.

73
Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV


>Since 9:00, I'm seeing 10s dashes with 2 s breaks, freq 136290Hz +- some drift, northerly DOA with some QSB, up to ~ 1 µV/m. It's 
>now on the bottom panel at http://freenet->homepage.de/df6nm/Grabber.htm
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>GL de Markus, DF6NM 



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Hello Henny, Marco,
Thanks for the screenshots!

73
Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV


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Hi Lf
capture YO
Henny pa3cpm
73s
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Lf</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>capture YO</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>73s</FONT></DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het volgende 
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Thanks to G7AQA, ON7YD, W1TAG, W0RPK, VE3EAR, K3SIW and W3NF for the reports. Transmitter was shut 
down at 0200Z. Looks like this mode is a bit of a stretch for T/A work although Mike was able to 
pull out a few clean lines of copy.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2 



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Hope to see vou soon Joe!

73

Victor

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens jcraig@mun.ca
Verzonden: zondag 22 februari 2009 1:46
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Onderwerp: Re: LF: 184kHz/QRV




Dear Group,

The antenna is back up and the TX is on 184.5093 kHz QRSS75.
Alan G3NYK is predicting declining conditions in a day or two, but
hopfully some will copy the sigs before then.

73 thanks and good luck
Joe VO1NA





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Hello Victor,

   Thank you for the capture!
-- 
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
                WE2XEB/2
                WE2XGR/1
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 12:24 AM,  <victor13@online.nl> wrote:
> Hi Warren,lf
>
> traces at 4:30z
>
> 73
>
> Victor


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Ok Andy

Left the set up  running  ..  if you download the  fldigi  software from the 
link
it has a front end  arq module .. which changes all the modes to  arq if
needed  .. simple box pops up  , enter 'mycall' and thats about it .. enter 
the
distant station call and press connect

should work like hf packet on prozac  hihi

tnx - graham

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From: "Andy Talbot" <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>
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Subject: Re: LF: FLDIGI IN FLARQ MODE OLIVIA 250 x 8 503 CENTRE FREQ

>
> Copy abt 50% of your transmission, but its weak and much QRM.  Tried
> replying, but not sure how to "connect".  Just replied manually using
> MultiPSK
>
> Andy  G4JNT
> www.g4jnt.com
>
>
>
> 2009/2/1 Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>:
>>
>> FLDIGI  IN FLARQ MODE  OLIVIA 250 x 8   503 CENTRE   FREQ
>>
>> Running  olivia 250 x 8  503 khz centre frequency
>> Software   FLDIGI , with  FLARQ  module running beacon 60  seconds , rx
>> open,
>> mycall set to  G0NBD
>> pls try connect .. should work .....
>> Graham .
>> http://www.w1hkj.com/Fldigi.html
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>



>
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
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> 20:03:00
> 



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Hi Graham, LF,

I've got 2 copies of Multipsk running, as you described earlier, on
501.00 dial frequ.

I get the occasional "CQ" and "nbd" in the gibberish on the Olivia
version, and nothing at all on the MT63 version.

I have heard the odd "two tone warble" that marks the start of an
Olivia transmission very, very faintly, but no real sign of the FSK
during the actual message. 

Let's see what the QSB does...

John



 On Wed, 4 Feb 2009 20:06:00 -0000
"Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

> Hi John,
> 
> If you set up  multipsk on the 2 streams  may print from under the
> noise .. its a follow on from the other night with Gary , where I
> could not turn the power down low enough to  stop mt63 from
> printing .. less than 1 watt single tone .. just  barely showing on
> the waterfall ...  but mt63 is supposed to be 10 db less effective
> that mfsk .. that's a lot !
> 
> G ..


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Dear Dennis, LF,

thanks for the info!

Being curious, I observed the frequency last night and noticed the mode chan=
ge at 1:00. This was in fact coincident with the onset of the broadband "Lux=
embourg" noise on my LF grabber. A spectrum taken of the 177 kHz demodulated=
 audio confirmed the 41.67 Hz bands in the AM component of the multicarrier=20=
DRM signal, which are then impressed symmetrically around the DCF39 carrier=20=
by the nonlinear ionospheric effect.

This shows that a wide spread use of high power DRM modulated transmitters c=
ould have a very significant negative impact on the LF noise background.

Kind regards,
Markus, DF6NM

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Dennis=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 6:43 PM
  Subject: Re: LF: Luxembourg effect caused by DRM?


  > A likely "heater" candidate
  > would be Zehlendorf 177 kHz, which has been reported in DRM mode after m=
idnight
  > - could someone perhaps confirm the times of digital operation?

  177kHz DRM-Mode from 2:00 - 5:00 local time, which means of course 1:00-4:=
00 UT at "wintertime" .

  73
  Dennis
  DL6NVC
  Berlin, 29km from Zehlendorf TX Tower=20

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dear Dennis, LF,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>thanks for the info!</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Being curious, I observed the frequency las=
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audio confirmed the&nbsp;41.67 Hz bands in the AM component of the multicarr=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This shows&nbsp;that a wide spread use of h=
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ct=20
on the LF noise background.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Kind regards,</FONT></DIV>
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 wspr and the over clocked sound card

Was there a resolve to the  problem of the  short wspr  tx produced by a 
soundcard that was running  slightly  faster than it  should

1.5 seconds short .....  about 1 %

, resulting in no decodes for strong signals .. presumably by providing  too 
many sync's

There is no way of changing the  sample  rate of the  card .. there is a 
option in the  driver . but  as soon as wspr  runs . the  card reverts to 
the  normal 44 khz setting

No problems with any of the  other  systems as the  card can be calibrated 
(though not  needed)

any  fixes or ideas ??

tnx

Graham ..



 




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Gus,

strong signal but I read it at 504.5kHz, so 503.0 dial
Despite it is S7 here on the meter I only get SNT between -6 and +4dB

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

Quoting Gus <begu@algonet.se>:

> MessageHi LF,Peter,Dave and Lee.
>
> Thank's for reports !
>
> Transmitter run also this evening, WSPR mode dial 503,2 USB 1W ERP.
>
> 73 de Gus SM6BHZ
>
>
>
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Lee Hudson
>   To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>   Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 4:38 AM
>   Subject: LF: SM6BHZ WSPR
>
>
>   Hi Gus,
>
>   WSPR Log received here.
>   Available on WSPRnet too.
>
>   73,
>   Lee M0LMH IO93gx.
>
>   0026 -13  0.8   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0028  -8  0.9   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0030  -5  1.7   0.504486  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0032  -2  1.4   0.504498  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0034  -2  1.4   0.504498  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0036  -3  1.5   0.504498  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0038  -4  1.6   0.504498  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0040  -3  2.0   0.504498  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0042  -1  1.7   0.504498  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0044  -2  1.8   0.504498  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0046  -4  1.9   0.504498  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0048  -5  1.8   0.504498  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0050  -8  2.2   0.504498  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0052  -1  2.2   0.504498  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0054   2  2.1   0.504498  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0056   1  2.0   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0058  -3  2.0   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0100  -1  2.1   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0102   0  2.3   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0104  -2  2.5   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0106  -1  2.5   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0108   0  2.4   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0110  -3  2.2   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0112 -10  2.6   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0114 -17  2.3   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0116 -15  2.6   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0118 -10  2.8   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0120  -5  2.5   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0122  -4  2.8   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0124  -1  2.6   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0126   0  2.7   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0128  -4  2.7   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0130  -3  2.6   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0132 -11  2.5   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0134  -4  2.9   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0136  -2  2.7   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0138  -4  2.7   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0140  -8  2.6   0.504499  1 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0142  -6  3.0   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0144  -4  3.0   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0146  -3  2.9   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0148  -3  2.9   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0150  -3  3.2   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0152  -3  3.4   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0154  -1  3.4   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0202 -10  3.1   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0204 -13  3.2   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0206 -11  2.8   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0208 -11  2.8   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0210  -9  3.2   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0212  -6  2.9   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0216  -3  3.2   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0218  -6  3.5   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0224  -5  4.1   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0226  -5  4.3   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0228  -3  4.4   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0230  -4  4.2   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>
>



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Why are you reporting such a low SNR, Jim ? Power was 23dBm (in spite
of what it says in the message - didn't reset it after yesterday)
I'm hitting the PA as hard as possible and RF is around the150 Watts
region.   You had positive reports on my sigs the other day

This broadband PA is rated for 200 Watts, but as it is specified for
0.5 to 40MHz, is right at the very bottom of its spec range.  The
antenna appears to have an input R of 31 ohms at the moment and this
impedance is reflected through a 5th order Elliptic LPF, and appears
as a higher Z at the load for the PA, hence, presumably, the reduced
Pmax.

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Hello Alberto and Marco, it was an unofficial transmission today at  10.00 
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A local event,a visit of sweedish ingeeners to see the  Alexander alternator 
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Reports are welcome.
 
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Henny , Joe ,
Nil also !
73 Jean-Pierre f1afj

henny van elst a =E9crit :
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Laurence, Markus, LF,
Here last night levels of signals DCF39 and "unid mfsk" were approximately identical.
Now, at 13 o'clock local time, level DCF39 is stronger on 20-25 db.
For the first time I heard this "unid mfsk" approximately one year ago.

73
Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV


> Our "data" signal was pretty strong on 139Khz this morning -
>
> Long Haul is pretty fair to only average towards Eu with both utility stations (DCF39 and Budapest) around 20dB above noise at
> times.
>
> I did a short .wav recording of this "new" signal http://www.kl1x.com/139.wav  you can hear DCF39 tone in the background. Is
> this Ankara running a new mode?
>
> Good signals from the Russian overnight - at their request Ill be slowing to dot 120 tonight - stitched shot at
> http://kl1x.com/1.jpg
>
> Regards Laurence
> Snowy NE China
>
>
>
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Hi Chris,

 

I expected something like that as all the other transmission times were
reported by you. I have had the same problems over night & in the morning
found nothing running so I also have turned that feature off.

 

Cheers,

 

Gary - G4WGT.

 

  _____  

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Chris McCarthy
Sent: 25 February 2009 17:25
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Subject: Re: LF: 500khz wspr spreadsheet

 

Gary,
 just to let you know the 2204 & 2210 readings missing due to XP doing an
automatic update and re-boot I've turned that feature off now!

Chris G3XVL




2009/2/25 Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>

Hi LF,

 

I have created a MS Excel spread-sheet for my WSPRing last night. I have
uploaded it to my website as it is too large for the LF group forum. On
three worksheets there is a graph in marker format, a graph in line format &
the data from the five stations who reported to the WSPR Spots page.

 

It is my first attempt at an Excel chart, please let me know what you think.
It can be downloaded at :-

 

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/WSPR01.xls

 

73,

 

Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.

 

 


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=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue;font-weight:bold'>I
expected something like that as all the other transmission times were report=
ed
by you. I have had the same problems over night &amp; in the morning found
nothing running so I also have turned that feature off.<o:p></o:p></span></f=
ont></b></p>

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an automatic update and re-boot I've turned that feature off now!<br>
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Chris G3XVL<br>
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<p><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-famil=
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<p><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-famil=
y:Arial; font-weight:bold'>I have created a MS Excel spread-sheet for my WSP=
Ring last
night. I have uploaded it to my website as it is too large for the LF group
forum. On three worksheets there is a graph in marker format, a graph in lin=
e
format &amp; the data from the five stations who reported to the WSPR Spots
page.</span></font></b><o:p></o:p></p>

<p><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-famil=
y:Arial; font-weight:bold'>&nbsp;</span></font></b><o:p></o:p></p>

<p><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-famil=
y:Arial; font-weight:bold'>It is my first attempt at an Excel chart, please=20=
let me know
what you think. It can be downloaded at :-</span></font></b><o:p></o:p></p>

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Hi Dave.
Your sketch looks like a HORIZ LOOP which would have different 
characteristics to a VERT LOOP.
It might be considered as a VERTICAL at 30 ft and top loaded.
73 mal/g3kev

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "dave.riley3" <dave.riley3@verizon.net>
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> Glad you asked, Andy...  Hope this one makes it past the spam filter...
>
> Back in the commercial AM transmitter biz days I buried miles of extra
> copper in to poor conductivity soil and gained little or nothing.
> Then came Bill Ashloop who proved that a small transmit loop can do quite
> well.
> http://www.wireless.org.uk/loopy.htm
> http://www.w1tag.com/XESANT.htm
>
> So I surveryed the back yard which sits on very poor conductivity soil and
> therefore makes a loop appear to me more in free space and here are the
> advantages that I have found to date:
>
> No high voltage wire ends to start tree fires. No wasted power going into
> and out of the ground...
>
> Much less wire used in a LOOP transmit antenna. This #4 stranded HV wire
> rests inside of 100' sections of garden hose and is hoisted into trees 
> with
> help of compound bow and pull line.
>
> No top loading, no radials, much less noise on RX, E-Z to tune and weather
> does not affect the tuning much such as from rain or snow, and it acts 
> like
> a good vertical regardless of being much simpler.
>
> As for the CONS, well I just don't think of any...  Somebody??
>
> It works very well from 600M to 6M and is the only real antenna that I 
> still
> have.
>
> Various feeds as noted below will let you tune it down to SAQ@17kc which I
> always hear and also makes for superb DX on 6M in 'some directions'.
>
> ref: http://www.radiocom.net/600M/LOOP109.jpg
>
> Wish I had a El-Nec printout but can't seem to fit this version in to it.
>
> QSL SURE VIA E-MAIL
> 090226 0406   1 -29  0.0   0.503869  G4JNT IO90 23
> 090226 0610   3 -29  0.0   0.503869  G4JNT IO90 23
>
> Have a quiet night and TNX from Dave @ WD2XSH/17
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Andy Talbot" <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 11:16 AM
> Subject: LF: LF Antennas - back to basics
>
>
>> Having now been encouraged by being decoded now by at least two US
>> stations,  was wondering how much improvement in efficiency I could
>> scrape out of my existing antenna.  It is a Marconi Tee, the vertical
>> element consisting of three wires from the base tapering to 200mm
>> spacing at the top.  There it is attached to the centre of a a
>> capacity hat 15m long and 200mm wide made of three parallel wires.
>>
>> The ground system is a bit haphazard in my 7m wide by 12m long garden,
>> with about 4 wires meeting at the base of the antenna meandering
>> around the garden, starting off in different directions from teh base.
>> They are all connected to substantial ground rods in heavy clay  at
>> their far points, a with a few randomly spaced rods in between (I used
>> several 1m lengths of 15mm water pipe as well as proper rods - there
>> is probably about 9 or 10 rods in total, mostly 1 - 2m in length -
>> can't remember that far back!   Some of the earth conductors were also
>> bonded to the house wiring by a couple of substantial straps, and even
>> inside the house I added more straps at strategic places.   I also
>> ensured there was a good fat cable run directly under as much of the
>> capacity hat as possible.   As a test, disconnecting the PME earthing
>> bond and measuring the DC resistance between my total set of
>> connections and the incoming conductor ground/neutral point, the value
>> was a pretty consistent 3 ohms.  Haven't done this test for a few
>> years, but at the last check it was still of this order.
>>
>> Back in the 73kHz days a number of (mostly big!) stations were
>> surprised my signal was as strong as it was for probably the smallest
>> antenna in use then; G3LDO put it down to the fact I had concentrated
>> plenty of earthing wire to run directly under the top-hat.
>>
>> But, its all 14 years old,  still OK, but hopefully there's a wealth
>> of experience now, and I wonder if there are obvious improvements that
>> could be made:
>>
>> Firstly, bearing in mind there is no scope whatsoever to raise one end
>> of the capacity hat which is defined by the apex of the house roof,
>> and the other end would also need some major sugery to raise its heigh
>> substantially, that only leaves the middle, ie the height of the
>> actual radiator.    It wouldn't be too difficult to raise this to 10m
>> or even more with a fibreglass pole, but will I be throwing away all
>> the advantage by having the top-hat drooping down to 7m?
>>
>> Secondly, pictures of other peoples antennas aften show a substantial
>> grounding plate immediately under and around the antenna base.  Just
>> how far out is is worth going with a really substantial base.   I
>> could cut more conductors into the ground; while the ground is still
>> is still soggy in March may be a good time to do this.
>>
>> Any ideas please ...?
>>
>>
>> Andy  G4JNT
>> www.g4jnt.com
>>
>
>


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JIm,

Thanks for the connect ... reducing the packet length looks to  be a good 
idea .. as you can see from Rik's post the emails are plain text hihi

That has to  be a record qso  , 3 ways on  data and each printing 100% , 
Gary G4WGT  with 10 watts , I was running round 45 , last night each stream 
was 10 to  15 max

The arq mode is a little sticky .. but once running looked to  work nicely . 
I sent Gary a speclab capture . but where not sure where the file went !

Tnx-

Graham ..

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>
> Dear Graham,
>
> Well, I think it is set up OK, but at the moment your beacon signal is 
> very
> weak and not getting much copy here - so far your callsign has not 
> appeared
> in the FLARQ callsign window, which is what I think should happen. I will
> monitor your sigs until hopefully they get a bit stronger later on.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
>
>



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Hi Warren,
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Has forgotten to write... Pauses were synchronous with parcels HGA22.

> Hello Markus, LF,
> I observed a similar signal in the last evening at ~23z, but on frequency 136430.
> 10 seconds transmit, 2 seconds a pause and periodically long breaks. Audible S5-S6.
>
> 73
> Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV
>
>
>>Since 9:00, I'm seeing 10s dashes with 2 s breaks, freq 136290Hz +- some drift, northerly DOA with some QSB, up to ~ 1 µV/m. 
>>It's now on the bottom panel at http://freenet->homepage.de/df6nm/Grabber.htm
>>
>>GL de Markus, DF6NM
>
> 



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Modes changed

MT63   STOPPED

MFSK16 ,  Centre freq   1000 Hz audio

Approx  15 watts peak per stream

Thanks for reports .. will run this config  an hour or so

G ..

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Subject: LF: If anyones about , MT63  x 500 Hz and Olivia 500 x 8 running 
now 1935 hrs

>
> As a follow on to some tests  with Gary  , with Olivia  500 x 8 and the
> original MT63 system
>
> Running  two  data streams now at about 10  watts per mode , carrier
> frequencies are :-
>
> mt63   501.5 to  502 Khz
>
> olivia 500x8  503 Khz +/-  250 Hz
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> The book says mt63 should not print as well as olivia .....
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> tnx - G ..
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>



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Nice captures here in JN45sl, using the Roelof mini-whip, Perseus
and Winrad+VAC+WSPR 1.01

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090203 0000  22  -9  1.6   0.504499  SM6BHZ JO57 30

73  Alberto  I2PHD




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Thank you Henny for the capture!
-- 
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
                WE2XEB/2
                WE2XGR/1

2009/2/10 henny van elst <cpm@planet.nl>:
> Hi Warren
> capture XGJ
> Henny cpm
> 73s
> Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden
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> Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen
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Dear Gus, LF group

Below  few  decoded signals  of your wspr beacon.


0104 -18  1.2   0.504503  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
0106 -15  1.3   0.504503  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
0108 -16  1.3   0.504503  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
0110 -21  1.2   0.504503  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
0112 -16  1.2   0.504503  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
0114 -13  1.3   0.504503  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
All  were  uploaded to wspr database but at this moment
i switched off  my rx  equipment  an finally going to get some sleep..
             
                                     73, peter, sq7mpj

qth: lodz, poland/jo91rs/





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Jay,

nil here at 2145Z, not even traces.
Last night I had traces starting 2120Z and first copy at 2144Z.
QRN is very bad for this time of the year.
I will leave the RX on overnight with WSPR running, so eventual copies  
will be uploaded.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

Quoting jrusgrove@comcast.net:

> Confirming start of WSPR transmission 2030Z on 507.000 dial frequency.
>
> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2



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jrusgrove@comcast.net wrote:

> WE2XGR/2 will be transmitting in MFSK8 mode on 508.5 kHz from 2130Z - 
> 0000Z tonight. Reports are appreciated.
>
> When using MultiPSK as the decoder be advised that the program has 
> been known to occasionally go on 'walkabout' after loss of signal. 
> Stopping and restarting the decoder seems to solve the problem.
>
> Jay  W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>
Hello Jay , LF group
there is another nice piece of software  including mfsk8 as one of its 
TX/RX modes:   IZ8BLY Stream program which can be  downloaded from:
http://xoomer.virgilio.it/aporcino/Stream/index.htm
and being free of  mentioned  'walkabout' problem.  in the most lower 
and right parts of the main program screen there is a small window where 
you can
precisely setup the desired qrg and just below unmark the AFC button

                                                                                                 
yours, peter, sq7mpj

qth: lodz, poland/jo91rs/






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73s willem pa3ego



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Victor,
  Great capture! Thank you.
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73 Warren K2ORS
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On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 1:41 AM,  <victor13@online.nl> wrote:
> Hi Warren,all
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> captured XGJ 6:00z
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> 73
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> Victor


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On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 04:20:35 -0800 (PST)
brian hodgson <g3ykb@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> I was brought up in Geordie-land. I went to college in Manchester and
> had arguments about how Manchester was in the South of England !! I
> still think I'm right....... Brian (G3YKB)


I was also born and bred in Geordie-land and also went to University
in Manchester, and had the same arguments! 

I used to say that the south started at the M62 and the midlands
stretched from the M62 to the River Wear.


I even married a Scouser who thinks that Liverpool is in the north.....!

Of course now, EVERYTHING in the UK is "down south" for us, but she
still thinks she's a Northerner, poor lass!

John
GM4SLV
Shetland.....

       



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Fine Jim

It was just a thought , had a session with Gary , I sent a 32 kb  jpg file 
over to  him but had to  use the bpsk  at 125 speed  ... 4000 seconds tx 
time .. the system worked ,...

Its a pity the chat mode is not arq controlled as that would solve the qsb 
problem at a stroke !

Thanks'

Graham ..



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From: "James Moritz" <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>
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Subject: LF: Re: Flarq beacon bpsk125  503 Khz

>
> Dear Graham, LF Group,
>
> Only occasional recognisable bits of text here - none of the beacon
> transmissions were strong enough to copy in this mode.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
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> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 11:00 PM
> Subject: LF: Fldig Farq beacon bpsk125 503 Khz
>
>
>>
>>
>> Fldig  Farq beacon  bpsk125  503 Khz
>> running till  2400 , psl try connect
>>
>> tnx - G ..
>>
>
>
>



>
> No virus found in this incoming message.
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> 11:34:00
> 



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yes it's OE5PGL in CW, currently calling CQ on 136.595.
 73 + GL de Markus, DF6NM

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Just notice some activity on Markus' 136 kHz grabber, possibly from OE ?

HPE cul,
  73, Wolf .




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Hello Jean-Pierre, Henny, Nicolas,
Many thanks for the reports!

73
Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV


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Hi All,
capture WPF
Henny pa3cpm
73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
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Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld.

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Hello LF!
I saw something interesting on 137.777. Is is LX effect?

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

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Hello LF!<br>I saw something interesting on 137.777. Is is LX effect?<br><br=
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Hi LF,Marco,Jay,Dave,Alberto,Roman.

Thank's for all reports and info during my WSPR test on 500 kHz.
I was testing a newbuild transverter and the power is moderate 1 W ERP.
It seams like WSPR is a good mode for loong distance and low power.

Best 73 de Gus SM6BHZ
http://www.sm6bhz.com/



----- Original Message ----- 
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> Gus
> 
> From short listening period last night:
> 
> 090202 0206   1 -32  1.3   0.504499  SM6BHZ JO57 30 
> 090202 0210   3 -28  1.3   0.504499  SM6BHZ JO57 30 
> 
> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Gus" <begu@algonet.se>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 4:09 PM
> Subject: Re: LF: Re: SM6BHZ WSPR
> 
> 
>> Rik,
>> 
>> thank's report !
>> 
>> I did some test here, dial is now 503,0 kHz
>> 
>> Gus
>> 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Rik Strobbe" <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:00 PM
>> Subject: Re: LF: Re: SM6BHZ WSPR
>> 
>> 
>> Gus,
>> 
>> strong signal but I read it at 504.5kHz, so 503.0 dial
>> Despite it is S7 here on the meter I only get SNT between -6 and +4dB
>> 
>> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
>> 
>> Quoting Gus <begu@algonet.se>:
>> 
>>> MessageHi LF,Peter,Dave and Lee.
>>>
>>> Thank's for reports !
>>>
>>> Transmitter run also this evening, WSPR mode dial 503,2 USB 1W ERP.
>>>
>>> 73 de Gus SM6BHZ
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   ----- Original Message -----
>>>   From: Lee Hudson
>>>   To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>>>   Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 4:38 AM
>>>   Subject: LF: SM6BHZ WSPR
>>>
>>>
>>>   Hi Gus,
>>>
>>>   WSPR Log received here.
>>>   Available on WSPRnet too.
>>>
>>>   73,
>>>   Lee M0LMH IO93gx.
>>>
>>>   0026 -13  0.8   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0028  -8  0.9   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0030  -5  1.7   0.504486  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0032  -2  1.4   0.504498  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0034  -2  1.4   0.504498  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0036  -3  1.5   0.504498  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0038  -4  1.6   0.504498  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0040  -3  2.0   0.504498  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0042  -1  1.7   0.504498  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0044  -2  1.8   0.504498  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0046  -4  1.9   0.504498  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0048  -5  1.8   0.504498  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0050  -8  2.2   0.504498  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0052  -1  2.2   0.504498  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0054   2  2.1   0.504498  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0056   1  2.0   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0058  -3  2.0   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0100  -1  2.1   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0102   0  2.3   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0104  -2  2.5   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0106  -1  2.5   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0108   0  2.4   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0110  -3  2.2   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0112 -10  2.6   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0114 -17  2.3   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0116 -15  2.6   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0118 -10  2.8   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0120  -5  2.5   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0122  -4  2.8   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0124  -1  2.6   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0126   0  2.7   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0128  -4  2.7   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0130  -3  2.6   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0132 -11  2.5   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0134  -4  2.9   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0136  -2  2.7   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0138  -4  2.7   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0140  -8  2.6   0.504499  1 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0142  -6  3.0   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0144  -4  3.0   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0146  -3  2.9   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0148  -3  2.9   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0150  -3  3.2   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0152  -3  3.4   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0154  -1  3.4   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0202 -10  3.1   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0204 -13  3.2   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0206 -11  2.8   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0208 -11  2.8   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0210  -9  3.2   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0212  -6  2.9   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0216  -3  3.2   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0218  -6  3.5   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0224  -5  4.1   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0226  -5  4.3   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0228  -3  4.4   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>>   0230  -4  4.2   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
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Hi Warren,all

captured XGJ 6:00z

73

Victor

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     Hello,  I am now finding that I do not get much relevant
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Note sure if the Chinese have blocked it but cant get download on Rik ON7YD'=
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WE2XGR/2 will be transmitting in MFSK8 mode on 508.5 kHz from 2130Z - 0000Z tonight. Reports are 
appreciated.

When using MultiPSK as the decoder be advised that the program has been known to occasionally go on 
'walkabout' after loss of signal. Stopping and restarting the decoder seems to solve the problem.

Jay  W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2 



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Jim

Sorry to  read that , I have the old bbc radio merseyside tx about 1 miles 
from me  .. that was bad enough .. till  it started to  send 3 or 4 mw 
signals  . now its all over the place   .. roll on digital  bc ..  hopefully 
it will be turned off  ...   be like waking up on that  wonderful day and 
finding the decca signal had gone from 1.9 mhz  ... ...

G ..

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>
> Dear Andy, LF Group,
>
> Should be better now - I have been playing with antennas due to the 
> problem
> that arose yesterday with the increased noise levels. Incidentally, I just
> saw your frequency jump from 503870 to 503885 Hz in the middle of the 1830
> transmission, but still gave 0dB and +3dB SNRs - on two frequencies!
>
> After going out and about with a loop and portable RX, I am now pretty
> certain that the QRM is being radiated from the Brookmans Park transmitter
> site. I am not entirely certain, but there seems to be some correlation
> between the noise and the BBC R5 909kHz transmission audio, the antenna of
> which is about 500m from here. This was also the case before, but the QRM
> level has risen by about 20dB in the last day or so.
>
> As an experiment, I have lashed up an EWE-like antenna, and with suitable
> tweaking this gives about 20dB of unidirectional null, which has brought 
> me
> back to more or less where I was before, at least for signals coming from 
> a
> westerly direction. It is too big to be a permanent fixture, and also
> interacts with the TX antenna. But I think similar or better results will 
> be
> achievable by phasing a vertical antenna against the existing loops here.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Andy Talbot" <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>
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> Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 5:26 PM
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>
>
>> Why are you reporting such a low SNR, Jim ?
>
>
>



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Jordan

.... Er no .. but what to  set and what to adjust .?. I assumed the  clock 
was on the  sound card .. small xtal oscillator ?

Tnx

G ..

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>
> Have you tried adjusting the PCI bus settings in CMOS..?
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
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>> Jordan
>>
>>
>> The card is a PCI  ,   M - Audio Delta 4
>>
>> running with windows  xp-pro
>>
>> There are a selection of clock speeds .. but  it seems that when a
>> application runs . it defaults to the 44k setting .. but  for all other
>> software .. no problem .. works very well
>>
>> G ..
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Jordan" <outposter30@shaw.ca>
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 11:59 PM
>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Subject: LF: Re: wspr and the over clocked sound card .. whats the  final
>> position ??
>>
>>>
>>> Is this for an on-board sound card, and if not, what type of bus is it
>>> on..?
>>> 73...Jordan....
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
>>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 4:50 PM
>>> Subject: LF: wspr and the over clocked sound card .. whats the final
>>> position ??
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> wspr and the over clocked sound card
>>>>
>>>> Was there a resolve to the  problem of the  short wspr  tx produced by 
>>>> a
>>>> soundcard that was running  slightly  faster than it  should
>>>>
>>>> 1.5 seconds short .....  about 1 %
>>>>
>>>> , resulting in no decodes for strong signals .. presumably by providing
>>>> too many sync's
>>>>
>>>> There is no way of changing the  sample  rate of the  card .. there is 
>>>> a
>>>> option in the  driver . but  as soon as wspr  runs . the  card reverts
>>>> to
>>>> the  normal 44 khz setting
>>>>
>>>> No problems with any of the  other  systems as the  card can be
>>>> calibrated
>>>> (though not  needed)
>>>>
>>>> any  fixes or ideas ??
>>>>
>>>> tnx
>>>>
>>>> Graham ..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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Dear Jay, LF Group,

Thanks.

The QRN level was building up here, but seems to have calmed down now...

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU

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Hello friends,

Not bad=C2=A0reception of SAQ transmission this morning in JN08WN (my job)
Not QSB and not QRN,thanx to Lars and the Grimeton's team.

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Here Stream and Multipsk are working side by side for almost 1 hour =20
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I leave them running overnight.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

Quoting jrusgrove@comcast.net:

> Gary
>
> The program keeps running okay here.
>
> A couple other points though. Unlike Multipsk one has to specify the
> lower edge of the bandpass - not the middle. This is 120 Hz below the
> center. In other words if 800 Hz is your received audio center
> frequency set the frequency to 680. Maybe there is a way to set it to
> the center...if so I havn't found it.
>
> The bigger problem is with other applications running at the same time.
> Just opened an internet browser and copy went to garbage. MultiPSK kept
> decoding properly.
>
> Jay
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 4:54 PM
> Subject: RE: LF: WE2XGR/2 in MFSK8
>
>
>> Jay, LF,
>>
>> I also downloaded Stream & it runs for about 30 seconds & freezes.
>>
>> 73 - Gary - G4WGT.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of
>> jrusgrove@comcast.net
>> Sent: 07 February 2009 21:42
>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>> Subject: Re: LF: WE2XGR/2 in MFSK8
>>
>> Rik and group
>>
>> Confirming start at 2130Z.
>>
>> Downloaded Stream earlier and was unable to get it to work. MultiPSK work=
s
>> fine. May very well be
>> cockpit error. Will  look into it.
>>
>> Jay
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rik Strobbe"  =20
>> <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 4:28 PM
>> Subject: Re: LF: WE2XGR/2 in MFSK8
>>
>>
>>> Jay,
>>>
>>> It just downloaded / installed stream (IZ8BLY).
>>> RX / PC is on 508.5 overnight
>>>
>>> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
>>>
>>> Quoting jrusgrove@comcast.net:
>>>
>>>> WE2XGR/2 will be transmitting in MFSK8 mode on 508.5 kHz from 2130Z -
>>>> 0000Z tonight. Reports are appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> When using MultiPSK as the decoder be advised that the program has been
>>>> known to occasionally go on 'walkabout' after loss of signal. Stopping
>>>> and restarting the decoder seems to solve the problem.
>>>>
>>>> Jay  W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>



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Hi Andy, LF,

Point noted regarding the RF/ERP setting in WSPR for use on LF.

I had been using WSPR recently on 160 metres & of course did not change the
setting back to reflect the estimated ERP level.

Consider my knuckles rapped HI HI.

The ERP was about 2mW or 3dBm for last nights transmissions.

Cheers,

Gary - G4WGT.

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Andy Talbot
Sent: 23 February 2009 09:53
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: WSPRing and programmed ERPs

Switched off at 0630 this morning, but unfortunately, according to the
database, no exotic receptions heard - just the usual culprits  'ISM
and XVL!

I see G4WGT was transmitting until around 2350 and note your quoted
power was 37dBm.

I thought we had agreed that for WSPR transmissions on the LF bands,
the power entered in the WSPR message would reflect (to at least a
reasonable approximation)  ERP and not RF power.    Hence my use of a
ridiculous figure (53dBm) when sending at very low power on Saturday.

Only certain power levels seem to be permissible - presumably those in
the pull-down menu in WSPR.EXE (windoze version) and there appear to
be 19.
While playing with WSPR.EXE (command line version) to generate teh
tone codes for my PIC /DDS combination, any value power level could be
entered, but when the subsequent symbol set was decoded, the software
threw up a {bad message] indicator instead of LOC and PWR. Presumably,
this makes for 20 stored power settings.  Its a pity that an illegal
power setting kills the LOC info as well, as the {bad message} code
would otherwise have been a good way to show a variable or non
specified power level.

Back to ERP vs. RF:  Legal values range from 0 to 60dBm, ie 1mW to
1kW.   While this is an ideal range for HF use where the power levels
are unlikely to be exceeded at either end (except by 'JNT on Friday on
10MHz with -2dBm, programmed as 0)  only a subset of values cover the
expected range of ERPs on LF -  0dBm to (now) 40dBm.     To allow for
QRP LF stations, can I suggest the values above 40dBm are used as
follows to reflect ERPs from -20 to 0dBm

Actual ERP = Stored value - 60
So if your ERP is below 0dBm, you programme a value of ERP + 60 into
your message.    This gives a discontinuity, and makes a nonsense of
the MEPTSpot website's ordering in terms of power or km per Watt

To save the discontinuity, another alternative would be to shift the
entire code-set by 20dB to reflect tens of microWatts rather than
milliwatts.   So now the total range would run from
-20dBm = "0"    to
+40dBm = "40"



Andy  G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com



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Confirming start of WSPR transmission 2030Z on 507.000 dial frequency.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2


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Gary,
 just to let you know the 2204 & 2210 readings missing due to XP doing an
automatic update and re-boot I've turned that feature off now!

Chris G3XVL



2009/2/25 Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>

>  *Hi LF,*
>
> * *
>
> *I have created a MS Excel spread-sheet for my WSPRing last night. I have
> uploaded it to my website as it is too large for the LF group forum. On
> three worksheets there is a graph in marker format, a graph in line format &
> the data from the five stations who reported to the WSPR Spots page.*
>
> * *
>
> *It is my first attempt at an Excel chart, please let me know what you
> think. It can be downloaded at :-*
>
> * *
>
> *http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/WSPR01.xls*
>
> * *
>
> *73,*
>
>
>
> *Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.*
>
>
>

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Gary,<br>=A0just to let you know the 2204 &amp; 2210 readings missing due to=
 XP doing an automatic update and re-boot I&#39;ve turned that feature off n=
ow!<br><br>Chris G3XVL<br><br><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/2/25 G=
ary - G4WGT <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk">g4w=
gt@tiscali.co.uk</a>&gt;</span><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 2=
04, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">








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<p><b><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Arial"><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-f=
amily: Arial; font-weight: bold;">Hi LF,</span></font></b></p>

<p><b><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Arial"><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-f=
amily: Arial; font-weight: bold;">=A0</span></font></b></p>

<p><b><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Arial"><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-f=
amily: Arial; font-weight: bold;">I have created a MS Excel spread-sheet for
my WSPRing last night. I have uploaded it to my website as it is too large f=
or
the LF group forum. On three worksheets there is a graph in marker format, a
graph in line format &amp; the data from the five stations who reported to t=
he
WSPR Spots page.</span></font></b></p>

<p><b><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Arial"><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-f=
amily: Arial; font-weight: bold;">=A0</span></font></b></p>

<p><b><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Arial"><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-f=
amily: Arial; font-weight: bold;">It is my first attempt at an Excel chart,
please let me know what you think. It can be downloaded at :-</span></font><=
/b></p>

<p><b><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Arial"><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-f=
amily: Arial; font-weight: bold;">=A0</span></font></b></p>

<p><b><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Arial"><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-f=
amily: Arial; font-weight: bold;"><a href=3D"http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgta=
ylor/WSPR01.xls" target=3D"_blank">http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/WSPR0=
1.xls</a></span></font></b></p>


<p><b><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Arial"><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-f=
amily: Arial; font-weight: bold;">=A0</span></font></b></p>

<p><b><b><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Arial"><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt; fon=
t-family: Arial;">73,</span></font></b></b></p>

<p><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;=
">=A0</span></font></p>

<p><b><b><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Arial"><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt; fon=
t-family: Arial;">Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.</span></font></b></b></p>

<p><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;=
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Hi Laurence,

yes, I am seeing this signal on 139.0 between the strong DCF bursts here - s=
outheasterly direction, same as the earlier FSK signals from Turkey. Actuall=
y smack in the middle of the DCF39 channel. And SXV still sits on the HGA 22=
 space frequency 135.77. Makes me wonder how European coordination works...

Nice fat traces from RN3AGC here (0.7 uV/m), also visible on your grabber I=20=
think.

Best wishes,

Markus, DF6NM
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Laurence BY3A-KL1X China=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 11:17 PM
  Subject: LF: 139 mfsk signal


  =20
  Our "data" signal was pretty strong on 139Khz this morning -
  =20
   Long Haul is pretty fair to only average towards Eu with both utility sta=
tions (DCF39 and Budapest) around 20dB above noise at times.=20
  =20
  I did a short .wav recording of this "new" signal http://www.kl1x.com/139.=
wav  you can hear DCF39 tone in the background. Is this Ankara running a new=
 mode?
  =20
  Good signals from the Russian overnight - at their request Ill be slowing=20=
to dot 120 tonight - stitched shot at http://kl1x.com/1.jpg
  =20
  Regards Laurence
  Snowy NE China



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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Hi Laurence,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>yes, I am seeing this signal&nbsp;on 139.0 between t=
he=20
strong DCF bursts here - southeasterly direction, same as&nbsp;the earlier F=
SK=20
signals from Turkey. Actually smack in the middle of the DCF39 channel. And=20=
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still sits on the HGA 22 space frequency 135.77.&nbsp;Makes me wonder&nbsp;h=
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European coordination works...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Nice fat traces from RN3AGC here (0.7 uV/m), also vi=
sible=20
on your grabber I think.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Best wishes,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Markus, DF6NM</FONT></DIV>
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  <A title=3Dhellozerohellozero@hotmail.com     href=3D"mailto:hellozerohell=
ozero@hotmail.com">Laurence BY3A-KL1X China</A>=20
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: 139 mfsk signal</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT><BR></DIV>&nbsp;<BR>Our "data" signal was p=
retty=20
  strong on 139Khz this morning -<BR>&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;Long Haul is pretty fai=
r to=20
  only average towards Eu with both utility stations (DCF39 and Budapest) ar=
ound=20
  20dB above noise at times. <BR>&nbsp;<BR>I did a short .wav recording of t=
his=20
  "new" signal <A     href=3D"http://www.kl1x.com/139.wav">http://www.kl1x.c=
om/139.wav</A>&nbsp; you=20
  can hear DCF39 tone in the background. Is this Ankara running a new=20
  mode?<BR>&nbsp;<BR>Good signals from the Russian overnight - at their requ=
est=20
  Ill be slowing to dot 120 tonight - stitched shot at <A     href=3D"http:/=
/kl1x.com/1.jpg">http://kl1x.com/1.jpg</A><BR>&nbsp;<BR>Regards=20
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Hi Warren and All,
capture XGJ
Henny cpm
73s
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XGJ 25-02.jpg

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>73s</FONT></DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het volgende 
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Jay, LF,

I also downloaded Stream & it runs for about 30 seconds & freezes.

73 - Gary - G4WGT.

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Rik and group

Confirming start at 2130Z.

Downloaded Stream earlier and was unable to get it to work. MultiPSK works
fine. May very well be 
cockpit error. Will  look into it.

Jay


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> Jay,
>
> It just downloaded / installed stream (IZ8BLY).
> RX / PC is on 508.5 overnight
>
> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
>
> Quoting jrusgrove@comcast.net:
>
>> WE2XGR/2 will be transmitting in MFSK8 mode on 508.5 kHz from 2130Z -
>> 0000Z tonight. Reports are appreciated.
>>
>> When using MultiPSK as the decoder be advised that the program has been
>> known to occasionally go on 'walkabout' after loss of signal. Stopping
>> and restarting the decoder seems to solve the problem.
>>
>> Jay  W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>
>
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HI Warren,lf,

very good signal at 0:00z

73

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Arnim Pomsel schrieb:
> Dr Mal !
> Tnx for QRSS / QSO yesterday!! It was my first QRSS /QSO !! Ur Sigs 
> are ufb ( T ) 15dB oN . Hope we have CW /QSO agn! My rig TX : homebrew 
> abt 500 Watts, Ant: GP 14 m high, toploadet, RX : Teletron TE 704c
> VY 73 es 55
> Arnim DL1EIE
>
>
SRI, SRI, The Signal was ( O ) !!!!!!! SRI
VY 73 Arnim DL1EIE


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On Wed, 04 Feb 2009 22:32:21 +0100
Rik Strobbe <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be> wrote:

> I just installed multipsk.
> I believe it is the most chaotic programme I have ever seen.

That's the truth!



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I can see the MFSK16 on a waterfall display. Nothing's decoded though
- it looks pretty faint on the grabber.

John


On Wed, 4 Feb 2009 21:11:51 -0000
"Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

> Modes changed
> 
> MT63   STOPPED
> 
> MFSK16 ,  Centre freq   1000 Hz audio
> 
> Approx  15 watts peak per stream
> 
> Thanks for reports .. will run this config  an hour or so
> 
> G ..
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> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
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> Subject: LF: If anyones about , MT63  x 500 Hz and Olivia 500 x 8
> running now 1935 hrs
> 
> >
> > As a follow on to some tests  with Gary  , with Olivia  500 x 8 and
> > the original MT63 system
> >
> > Running  two  data streams now at about 10  watts per mode , carrier
> > frequencies are :-
> >
> > mt63   501.5 to  502 Khz
> >
> > olivia 500x8  503 Khz +/-  250 Hz
> >
> > The book says mt63 should not print as well as olivia .....
> >
> > tnx - G ..
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> > No virus found in this incoming message.
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Dear LF,

I could just barely see Jay's WSPR signal, but a little too weak to decode here. The top panel in the attached picture shows the
faint traces, as seen on the WSPR spectrogram at 23:10.

The periodic nature of the WSPR signals tempted me to try SpecLab's built in averaging function to stack a number of 2 minute
cycles. The software signal generator was set up to deliver a burst every 120 seconds, which was used to trigger a new spectrogram
sweep each time. After gathering about eight averages at 23:13, the noise had leveled out a fair bit, and details of the modulation
started to become visible (middle). The start of the transmissions is on the first of the two minute markers. The bottom snapshot
was taken an hour later, including 38 averages.

This incoherent averaging is a slow process, as noise power is reduced only with the square root of the number of averages, ie.
1.5dB SNR gain for double observation time. The advantage is that it does not require long term phase stability of the propagation
path.

Stacking of a number of spectrogram captures could possibly be also applied to dig repeating QRSS beacons out of the noise, provided
the repetition period is precisely known a priori.

Kind regards,
Markus, DF6NM


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Hello Uwe, Markus, LF,

...testing a new machine...
Argo in qrss3.

73
Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV


> ...seen on 136.316 tonight.  73 de DF6NM

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Hi LF,

 

Running WSPR beacon tonight for a while.

 

Frequency 503.915KHz - 2 mW ERP (3dBm)

 

73,

 

Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.

 


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That's very interesting -  I appear to be 10 - 15dB better S/N with
you Johan (-5db S/N) at 1200km, than with GM4ISM (-20dB S/N) at 577km.

Background noise levels ?
Sea path ?

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2009/2/23 Johan H. Bodin <jh.bodin@telia.com>:
> Solid copy in JO67MR Andy, including the CW ID!
>
>
> 73
> Johan SM6LKM
>
> Andy Talbot wrote:
>> 503.870 +23dBm ERP running now,  34.375% duty cycle ...
>>
>> Andy  G4JNT
>> www.g4jnt.com
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Dear Graham,

Well, I think it is set up OK, but at the moment your beacon signal is very 
weak and not getting much copy here - so far your callsign has not appeared 
in the FLARQ callsign window, which is what I think should happen. I will 
monitor your sigs until hopefully they get a bit stronger later on.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
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Best 73s
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John & group

The following from my post this morning...

>In order to further 'probe' the T/A sunset / sunrise propagation extremes, WE2XGR/2 will transmit
>during two periods tonight. The first period will be 2030 - 2330Z and then again at 0630 - 0930Z.
>Reports, especially 'first in' and 'last out' would be appreciated. If anyone would like the times
>periods extended please let me know.

Will be back on at 0630Z.

Jay





----- Original Message ----- 
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> Jay, LF,
>
> I wonder if the WSPR TX is off at the moment, I see no one else has
> decoded anything beyond 23:32 and the waterfall shows an abrubt ending
> of a trace shortly into the 23:34 period.
>
> Hope all is well!
>
> John
> 



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> Hello LF-Group,
> I calling CQ the next 2 hours on +/- 137.700Khz in QRSS3 (every 10min.). 
> Later from 10-11pm UTC in QRSS60 on +/- 137.778KHz. Any report is very 
> welcome.
> I will be QRV also tomorrow morning.
>
> vy73
> Marco
> DD7PC
>
>
>


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Hello Mike and the group,

Got one decode in WSPR here, around midnight. The limiting factor was 
not propagation, but QRM which can be described as an
"unstable buzzing / humming noise". Anyway, nice to see at least one 
line on the decoder screen.

0004 -30  0.9   0.508510  0 WE2XGR FN31 57

73,
  Wolf  DL4YHF  JO42FD .



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Hi lf,
capture agc wpf
henny cpm
73s
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi lf,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>capture agc wpf</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>henny cpm</FONT></DIV>
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Happy new year Jay ... your email was timestamped January(!) 1st, 2009, 
so I only found it by accident in the sorted list of recent mails.

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Joking aside, I will let WSPR run overnight. As usual, the QRM is 
terrible here at the moment. Not the faintest trace on the spectrogram yet.

73,
   Wolf .




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See XGJ signal this morning.

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Hi, Jay, LF,

Here are my first and last....

2224 -26 -1.2   0.508529  0 WE2XGR FN31 57
0756 -29  0.0   0.508529  0 WE2XGR FN31 57

Cheers, de Mike G7AQA IO93DT.

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: 01 February 2009 14:08
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Subject: LF: WE2XGR/2 WSPR

Wow! That generated quite a few reports.

Thanks to the multitude of stations for the suscessful 'spots' forwarded to
the WSPR database. The list includes: GM4SLV, G3XVL, OR7T, K3SIW, G4JNT,
AA1A, G3YPE, G4WGT, AA5AM, G7AQA, DL4YHF, W3NF, NW5R, F4DTL, M0LMH, K9FH and
VE7BDQ.

Also thanks to W1TAG, VE3EAR, M0BMU  and VA7JX for their reports and anyone
else that took the time to look. Hope I didn't forgot anyone.

The earliest reception was by GM4SLV at 44 minutes before local sunset here.
With clear skies the sun was still shining bright at the time.
Unfortunately, the transmitter was shut down prematurely at 0757Z so there
wasn't a chance to check propagation past sunrise in most of EU - especially
at GM4SLV's location with a sunrise at about 0830Z.

In order to further 'probe' the T/A sunset / sunrise propagation extremes,
WE2XGR/2 will transmit during two periods tonight. The first period will be
2030 - 2330Z and then again at 0630 - 0930Z. 
Reports, especially 'first in' and 'last out' would be appreciated. If
anyone would like the times periods extended please let me know.

Thanks again to everyone participating in the tests.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2




 




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Hello Rik
Tnx for the report and glad u can copi me during the daytime now with the 
higher erp.
Hpe to work u soon agn, try a daytime QSO.
de mal/g3kev

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rik Strobbe" <rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
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Subject: Re: LF: SIGS on 503.95


> Dave,
>
> l believe that G3XIZ was transmitting QRSS30 on that frequency, saw
> him on Gary's grabber.
>
> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
>
> BTW: inter-Europe condx seemed very good yesterday:
> DI & OK beacons were booming as was SK6RUD.
> Also good copy of GI4DPE beacon (peaking 579)
> Strong (599+) daytime copy of G3KEV, obviously enjoying the new 10W
> ERP privileges
>
>
> At 03:07 20/02/2009, you wrote:
>>UNID QRSS on 503.950 now, too much QRN
>>
>>
>>TNX
>>
>>Dave @ WD2XSH/17
>>
>>
>
>
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Andy,

I am monitoring and uploading eventual spots.
I will leave the RX / PC on overnight, so whoever want to give it a try ...

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

Quoting Andy Talbot <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>:

> Just for a bit of novelty, I'm running probably the lowest power WSPR
> signal seen on this band.   Frequency 503.87kHz (set the usual USB
> carrier 502.4) RF power is -2dBm, so ERP is in the region of -27dBm.
> Duty cycle 33% (well, actually, 34.375%, but who's counting)
>
> Judging by some of the WSPR reports on my signal when runing 100 Watts
> in the past, a few local stations may just be able to decode it.
>
> As for PN sequences, I admited defeat and just wrote down a series of
> ones and zeros then played with them till they looked right and had
> the correct numbers of each in a  32 bit pattern (which is why 33% and
> 20% duty cycle values aren't spot-on)
> On the assumptuin that its not random at all, why try to generate
> other than by eye?
>
> Interesting to know Joe had a similar headache over this issue, Scott.
>  Clearly it isn't a 'mountain out of a molehill' problem after all.
>
>
> Andy  G4JNT
> www.g4jnt.com
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>



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Nb . no rx cycle

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>
> As a follow on to some tests  with Gary  , with Olivia  500 x 8 and the
> original MT63 system
>
> Running  two  data streams now at about 10  watts per mode , carrier
> frequencies are :-
>
> mt63   501.5 to  502 Khz
>
> olivia 500x8  503 Khz +/-  250 Hz
>
> The book says mt63 should not print as well as olivia .....
>
> tnx - G ..
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I'll let it run overnight and will be switching off at 0630 UTC.

Andy  G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com



2009/2/22 dave.riley3 <dave.riley3@verizon.net>:
> DE WD2XSH/17 tuned for WSPRs from G4JNT and G4WGT on or about 503.900 +/-
> 100HZ.
>
> Please advise your quitting times, else will let it run all night...
>
> TNX
>
> Dave
>
>
> re:
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nNice capture AGC
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Mike Stans address can be found by pressing the reply button on his message
andrewss ( at ) earthlight dot co dot nz  (suitably "munged" to prevent
harvesting)
The data is ok but incomplete the....the line in the message must be the
first line and with no leading spaces. It is best followed by "end" on the
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confuses the simple parser in majordomo and results in no action.

I did post my usual message through the group at 2250z but it hasn't
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> Hi Jack,
>
> I will forward it to Stan and the list for others. Thanks much!!!
>
> Mike
> WE0H
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>
> Jack wrote:
> > Hi Mike, I came across this e-mail on how to remove oneself from
> > blacksheep, hopefully for him this will help.  I no longer have Stan's
> > e-mail address, otherwise I would have sent it directly to him.
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> > Jack - VA7JX
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> > This is the general rule for most mailing lists when you need
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>



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Hello Warren, LF!
Poor propagation this morning, I saw some traces only.=20

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

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Dear Graham, LF Group,

The default locations for the sent/received files are apparently 
C:\NBEMS\ARQrecv, ARQsend, Mail

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU


> The arq mode is a little sticky .. but once running looked to  work nicely 
> . I sent Gary a speclab capture . but where not sure where the file went !
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Hi Joe,lf,

just very weak traces,

73

Victor

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Assume 57dBm refers to Tx power.   What esitimated ERP is WE2XGR running ?

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2009/2/1  <F4DTL@aol.com>:
> Hello Jay, nice conditions this night,
>
> F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP
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> RX : Icom IC7400
> Ant: Wellbrook LFL 1010
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> 090201 0156  16 -16  0.8   0.508510  WE2XGR FN31 57
> 090201 0158  15 -17  0.8   0.508510  WE2XGR FN31 57
> 090201 0200   5 -26  0.9   0.508510  WE2XGR FN31 57
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Hello Warren, LF!
Very good reception this night. PA is doing well!

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Hello Victor, Henny,
Thanks for the reports!

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Good on Ya, John...

Wondered if you were away...  This #4 wire loop lives inside of 100' 
sections of good garden hose...
The hopefully high resistance pine brances are good stakes @ 70+ feet...
Actually, the only high voltage points are here in the shack where it meets 
it's variable vacuum cap and coupling...


So far no tree fires...

'G'... Thats the answer fer sure...  Effective height...  The only sound 
loop advice I ever got before Bill Ashloop era usta be, the MOST real ESTATE 
( square footage ) inside the loop as possible...

I'm hoping to see how long this one will last as I place new and improved 
'parasitic' loops in the near field ( parralell ) becoming critical coupled 
in the hopes of lowering this ubiquitious 'R' value...  If we only had some 
negative resistant paint...

Finally rationalized why all the big time 600M stations were on the salty 
water coast... Although you can notice the attenuation even 3 miles in from 
the beach here, the 23KV 3 phase lines that go by here on the way sure looks 
like a long terminated beveredge to me pointed straight on the great circle 
to EU...

Duty free gift, I recon...  Now for the QRN reduction program...  You 
cracked the code OK on better and best digi weak sigs detectors...
WSPR making good show from EU lately...  Must get QSO version... If only 
peanut whistle 20 watters could fly...

Until the sound of,

Dave







----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Andrews" <w1tag@charter.net>
To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, & UK) and MedFer bands" 
<lowfer@mailman.qth.net>; "600MRG" <shmrg@piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu>
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Subject: 600MRG> XGR/3 Antenna


> After being off the air since an ice storm on December 11-12, it looks 
> like WE2XGR/3 is again among the living. The big loop is oddly shaped, but 
> it does take power. There's not much that can be done for the tangle at 
> the upper eastern end, though! After removing several large branches from 
> the western side over the last two months, at least that end is roughly at 
> normal height. It remains to be seen how stable the shape will be, as 
> there are a number of badly damaged trees involved in holding it up.
>
> I'm guessing that the performance at 500 kHz won't be much worse than the 
> original setup, so XGR/3 will be the focus for the limited evening time I 
> have available at this point. The insulation on the #4 THHN wire is in 
> tough shape, and there are lots of new and strange points of contact to 
> the trees, so unattended operation won't be a good idea.
>
> WE2XGR/3 will be running MFSK16 on 508.500 kHz tonight from 0000 to 0200, 
> and then we'll see if USB still works on 510.
>
> John Andrews, W1TAG
>
>
> *********** The Primary 600MRG E-mail List Website is: **********
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Hi MFGRP
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Soldering irons at fhe ready.
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OE5ODL was active several times today, up to about 6 uV/m here. This capture=
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On Sun, 1 Feb 2009 15:30:29 -0500
<jrusgrove@comcast.net> wrote:

> Confirming start of WSPR transmission 2030Z on 507.000 dial frequency.
> 
> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
> 
Jay, LF,

First decode at 21:48, aafter a few periods of weakly visible signs on
the waterfall.

21:48 -28dB

Hope you can keep the transmission going right through the UK sunrise
period - say to 10:00 UTC.

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Andy,
you WSPR signal is very strong here in Germany JN59no.
vy 73 de
Roland DL3NDR former DI2AT



Rik Strobbe schrieb:
> Andy,
>
> the CW ID is 559 here, WSPR is no challenge ;-)
>
> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
>
> Quoting Andy Talbot <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>:
>
>> WSPR beacon now running
>> 503.870kHz centre, SSB Dial freq 502.4kHz >> 1470Hz
>> 33% duty cycle (32 frame repeat).
>>
>> Andy  G4JNT
>> www.g4jnt.com
>>
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Strong signal,

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Subject: Re: LF: Re: Fldig Farq  mfsk16  beacon  503 Khz  pls try connect ?
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Well  .. yes ...

G ..

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>
> On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 20:48:39 -0000
> "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
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>>  I could  rig up the pk232
>> .. but who ealse has one ?
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> I think I know that answer to that question....!
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> J
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Wow! That generated quite a few reports.

Thanks to the multitude of stations for the suscessful 'spots' forwarded to the WSPR database. The 
list includes: GM4SLV, G3XVL, OR7T, K3SIW, G4JNT, AA1A, G3YPE, G4WGT, AA5AM, G7AQA, DL4YHF, W3NF, 
NW5R, F4DTL, M0LMH, K9FH and VE7BDQ.

Also thanks to W1TAG, VE3EAR, M0BMU  and VA7JX for their reports and anyone else that took the time 
to look. Hope I didn't forgot anyone.

The earliest reception was by GM4SLV at 44 minutes before local sunset here. With clear skies the 
sun was still shining bright at the time. Unfortunately, the transmitter was shut down prematurely 
at 0757Z so there wasn't a chance to check propagation past sunrise in most of EU - especially at 
GM4SLV's location with a sunrise at about 0830Z.

In order to further 'probe' the T/A sunset / sunrise propagation extremes, WE2XGR/2 will transmit 
during two periods tonight. The first period will be 2030 - 2330Z and then again at 0630 - 0930Z. 
Reports, especially 'first in' and 'last out' would be appreciated. If anyone would like the times 
periods extended please let me know.

Thanks again to everyone participating in the tests.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2




 



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Nice capture Warren

73

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       Would you please close my  connection blacksheep. org.

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Hello Victor , Joe ,
Nothing here last night .
73 J-P f1afj

victor13@online.nl a =E9crit :
> Hi Joe,lf,
>
> just very weak traces,
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> 73
>
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Copy abt 50% of your transmission, but its weak and much QRM.  Tried
replying, but not sure how to "connect".  Just replied manually using
MultiPSK

Andy  G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com



2009/2/1 Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>:
>
> FLDIGI  IN FLARQ MODE  OLIVIA 250 x 8   503 CENTRE   FREQ
>
> Running  olivia 250 x 8  503 khz centre frequency
> Software   FLDIGI , with  FLARQ  module running beacon 60  seconds , rx
> open,
> mycall set to  G0NBD
> pls try connect .. should work .....
> Graham .
> http://www.w1hkj.com/Fldigi.html
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>
>
>
>


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just one fragment,
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2nd try...


Hi LF!

Coming back home I switched on the LW-radio, tuned to 189kHz.
Regularely observing this RUV transmitter Gufuskálar since 16.Jan.2009, it's amazing to get "a propagation feeling" on this quite distant path. :) and to listen to an unknown language, and to different music...

Listening 0:19UT-01:00UT, tonight it was necessary to reduce the RX sensitivity, because the signal was stronger than usual,  overdriving the RX at full sensitivity. For the first time reception was Q5, with only slight interferences from the 12kHz lower DLR on 177kHz; (it's TX is only 29km away from my home.)

Even after DLR's 177kHz swichover to DRM modulation at 01:00UT, which normally means everything around incl. BBC4 is drowning in the terrible broadband noise, tonight RUV remains detectable Q2 in the artificial noisefloor.

rx:  homemade trf 
ant: abt. 20sqm wire-loop abt. 10m agl
qrb Hellissandur-Berlin: 2505km

So, at least, the path Berlin-Iceland seems to be much enhanced tonight.
Watch out for DX on LF and MF :) :) :)

Good night
Dennis
DL6NVC


PS: I'm sorry for posting twice. Keyboard problems.















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G, LF,

I can't see anything meaningful, or decodable, so I've switched to a
grabber instead, to at least look for traces in the noise...

If anything apperars I'll restart Multipsk.

To observe the grabber
http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/gm4slv/gm4slv_500.jpg

Uploads every 5 minutes. Currently visible is GI4DPE at 501.058 and not
much else. Coverage is from 501 - 502.6

Cheers,

John



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Feb 2009 20:33:37 -0000 "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

> Mode change
> 
> From the initial reports it looks like the MT63 system is not as
> robust at the olivia 500 x 8
> 
> I will  change the MT63  mode to  MFSK16  , at  1000 Hz audio cent ,
> ( 502 Khz  rf cent )
> 
> As mfsk will pass via a non linear system , this may be of wider
> interest
> 
> Change time  >>> 2100 Hrs gmt <<<<
> 
> tnx - G ..
> 


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MFGRP
I am fhinking of installing a 1/2 wave dipole for 500 khz. In the firsrt ins=
tance at 100 ft high and possibly later at 120ft. Height low compared to fre=
q, but this experiment would be useful to compare against the inv L system a=
nd propagation both daytime and night time.

Reports appreciated
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>MFGRP</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am fhinking of installing a 1/2 wave dipo=
le for=20
500 khz. In the firsrt instance at 100 ft high and possibly later at 120ft.=20
Height low compared to&nbsp;freq, but this experiment would be useful to com=
pare=20
against&nbsp;the inv L system and propagation both daytime and night=20
time.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Reports appreciated</FONT></DIV>
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On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 20:48:39 -0000
"Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

>  I could  rig up the pk232 
> .. but who ealse has one ?

I think I know that answer to that question....!

J


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Good morning,
very good copy of RA3YO between ~00:15 - 02:45UTC and what a surprise
WD2XGJ from 23:30 until 05:30.
Sure signal was weak on my Miniwhip, but i copied several letters - see
attachment.

vy73
Marco
DD7PC

mailto:dd7pc@gmx.de
http://dd7pc.qsl.nu=20

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Captured XGJ and YO

73

Victor

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Hi Joe,Lf
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Joe,Lf</FONT></DIV>
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That may be a problem  as the pc has  3 sound cards , the  M-audio , 
soundblaster and a usb ads , the  ads and the  soundblaster  work fine . but 
not  the m-audio ...but the  m-audio works fine with the  other 
applications , multipsk, fldigi, etc

If the  wspr package had a routine to  calibrate the  card , would be ok,  ?

tnx- G ..

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Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 5:13 PM
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Subject: Re: LF: Re: wspr and the over clocked sound card .. whats the 
final position ??

>
> No Graham... it is in your CMOS boot set-up....you should be able to 
> adjust
> the PCI bus speed, or perhaps the clock divider speed that the bus clock 
> is
> based on....73...Jordan....
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 9:51 AM
> Subject: Re: LF: Re: wspr and the over clocked sound card .. whats the 
> final
> position ??
>
>
>> Jordan
>>
>> ... Er no .. but what to  set and what to adjust .?. I assumed the  clock
>> was on the  sound card .. small xtal oscillator ?
>>
>> Tnx
>>
>> G ..
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Jordan" <outposter30@shaw.ca>
>> Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 1:08 AM
>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Subject: Re: LF: Re: wspr and the over clocked sound card .. whats the
>> final position ??
>>
>>>
>>> Have you tried adjusting the PCI bus settings in CMOS..?
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
>>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 5:09 PM
>>> Subject: Re: LF: Re: wspr and the over clocked sound card .. whats the
>>> final
>>> position ??
>>>
>>>
>>>> Jordan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The card is a PCI  ,   M - Audio Delta 4
>>>>
>>>> running with windows  xp-pro
>>>>
>>>> There are a selection of clock speeds .. but  it seems that when a
>>>> application runs . it defaults to the 44k setting .. but  for all other
>>>> software .. no problem .. works very well
>>>>
>>>> G ..
>>>>
>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>> From: "Jordan" <outposter30@shaw.ca>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 11:59 PM
>>>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>>>> Subject: LF: Re: wspr and the over clocked sound card .. whats the
>>>> final
>>>> position ??
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Is this for an on-board sound card, and if not, what type of bus is it
>>>>> on..?
>>>>> 73...Jordan....
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
>>>>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 4:50 PM
>>>>> Subject: LF: wspr and the over clocked sound card .. whats the final
>>>>> position ??
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> wspr and the over clocked sound card
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Was there a resolve to the  problem of the  short wspr  tx produced 
>>>>>> by
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> soundcard that was running  slightly  faster than it  should
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1.5 seconds short .....  about 1 %
>>>>>>
>>>>>> , resulting in no decodes for strong signals .. presumably by
>>>>>> providing
>>>>>> too many sync's
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is no way of changing the  sample  rate of the  card .. there 
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> option in the  driver . but  as soon as wspr  runs . the  card 
>>>>>> reverts
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> the  normal 44 khz setting
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No problems with any of the  other  systems as the  card can be
>>>>>> calibrated
>>>>>> (though not  needed)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> any  fixes or ideas ??
>>>>>>
>>>>>> tnx
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Graham ..
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> No virus found in this incoming message.
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>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
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>>
>
>
>



>
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Hi Victor,

  Thanks for the FB capture!
-- 
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
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On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 12:31 AM,  <victor13@online.nl> wrote:
> Hi Warren,lf
>
> good copy of your signal,
>
> 73
>
> Victor


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Sri guys had a glitch today and she was down over sunset...

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Thank you Willem!

On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 1:12 AM, Willem De Roode <wdr@casema.nl> wrote:
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>
> Hi Warren
>
> Traces off xgj
>
> 73s Willem pa3ego
>



-- 
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Hi Warren and LF
Nice captureXGJ
Henny CPM
73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Warren and LF</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Nice captureXGJ</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>73s</FONT></DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het volgende 
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Andy,


Quoting Andy Talbot <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>:

> Firstly, bearing in mind there is no scope whatsoever to raise one end
> of the capacity hat which is defined by the apex of the house roof,
> and the other end would also need some major sugery to raise its heigh
> substantially, that only leaves the middle, ie the height of the
> actual radiator.    It wouldn't be too difficult to raise this to 10m
> or even more with a fibreglass pole, but will I be throwing away all
> the advantage by having the top-hat drooping down to 7m?

Raising one end of the antenna should increase the radiation =20
resistance, even if the tophat is drooping.
G4CNN (SK) did extensive calculations on this matter, see =20
http://www.strobbe.eu/on7yd/136ant/#Umbrella

> Secondly, pictures of other peoples antennas aften show a substantial
> grounding plate immediately under and around the antenna base.  Just
> how far out is is worth going with a really substantial base.   I
> could cut more conductors into the ground; while the ground is still
> is still soggy in March may be a good time to do this.

If found out that on 500kHz (ground) losses are much lower than on 136 =20
or even 73kHz. On 136kHz I measured a loss resistance of 130-160 Ohm =20
(winter - summer), on 500kHz it is 35-60 Ohm. At these values I =20
reached a point where the loss is the loading coils (abt. 7 Ohm) is no =20
longer neglectable.

Another thing that might improve teh antenna is placing (a part of) =20
the loading coil at the top of the vertical part, see =20
http://www.strobbe.eu/on7yd/136ant/#CombTop

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T







>
> Any ideas please ...?
>
>
> Andy  G4JNT
> www.g4jnt.com
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>



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Hi Joe thanks for the "plug" :-)). It is all down to the amount of help I
have had from many sources....if I could crack the fading prediction we
would really be there. Your signal being "right on the edge" is very useful
as a guide. It only needs a few dB of extra absorption or a slight
favourable fading lift and the difference is quite dramatic. Thanks to all
those monitoring and posting reports....these are extremely useful....even
if only for my confidence factor :-)) It is unfortunate there are no
reliable steady signal sources (like DCF39)  available to monitor aroung
500k.

Best wishes all
Alan G3NYK


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>
> Many thanks to Jean-Pierre, Henny, Victor and Willem for the
> recent reports.  The strong receptions in the Netherlands on
> the 17th were quite amazing, and Alan's ability to predict
> favourable transatlantic conditions is remarkable!
>
> 73 and thanks to all
> Joe
>



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Hi Andy,

I have done nothing, it just came in the post today.
I will get the letter out if you want more details.

73

Gary - G4WGT.

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Subject: Re: LF: RE: New NOV

Are they being automatically extended, or is reapplication necessary ?

Andy  G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com



2009/2/18 Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>:
> Hi Mark, LF,
>
>
>
> Received my new NoV today also.
>
>
>
> I echo thanks to all who negotiated for the further 1 year extension.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
>
>
> Gary - G4WGT.
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Mark
> Sent: 18 February 2009 11:42
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: LF: New NOV
>
>
>
> Gents
>
> I am please to report that a new NOV for 500KHz just arrived.
>
> The new NOV runs until 28 Feb 2010 and allows +10dBW,  501 to 504 KHz with
> immediate effect.
>
>
>
> Work will therefore start on the transverter here, though 10W ERP will not
> be possible from this antenna.
>
> Filed strengths will be too high and I may have serious voltage rating
> issues.
>
>
>
> Many thanks to all those quietly involved in the background in getting the
> NOV extended
>
> mark GM4ISM
>
> www.dc2light.co.uk
>
>
>
> Grabber and WSPR decoder  24/7 subject to external influences (eg 3 days
> with no internet last week!)
>
>



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Hello Warren,lf

juust a weak copy of your signal at 7:30z

73

Victor

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Hi Warren ,

Hol=E0 ! very very stong signal now !!!!!
Here the storm is very violent (110km/h)
in this moment

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Bonsoir Jean-Pierre,

    I hope the wind does not damage your antenna!
Thank you for the report!
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73 Warren K2ORS
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> Hol=E0 ! very very stong signal now !!!!!
> Here the storm is very violent (110km/h)
> in this moment
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> 73 qro Jean-Pierre
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Rik,

thank's report !

I did some test here, dial is now 503,0 kHz

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----- Original Message ----- 
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Gus,

strong signal but I read it at 504.5kHz, so 503.0 dial
Despite it is S7 here on the meter I only get SNT between -6 and +4dB

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

Quoting Gus <begu@algonet.se>:

> MessageHi LF,Peter,Dave and Lee.
>
> Thank's for reports !
>
> Transmitter run also this evening, WSPR mode dial 503,2 USB 1W ERP.
>
> 73 de Gus SM6BHZ
>
>
>
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Lee Hudson
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>   Subject: LF: SM6BHZ WSPR
>
>
>   Hi Gus,
>
>   WSPR Log received here.
>   Available on WSPRnet too.
>
>   73,
>   Lee M0LMH IO93gx.
>
>   0026 -13  0.8   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0028  -8  0.9   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0030  -5  1.7   0.504486  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0032  -2  1.4   0.504498  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0034  -2  1.4   0.504498  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0036  -3  1.5   0.504498  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0038  -4  1.6   0.504498  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0040  -3  2.0   0.504498  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0042  -1  1.7   0.504498  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0044  -2  1.8   0.504498  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0046  -4  1.9   0.504498  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0048  -5  1.8   0.504498  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0050  -8  2.2   0.504498  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0052  -1  2.2   0.504498  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0054   2  2.1   0.504498  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0056   1  2.0   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0058  -3  2.0   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0100  -1  2.1   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0102   0  2.3   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0104  -2  2.5   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0106  -1  2.5   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0108   0  2.4   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0110  -3  2.2   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0112 -10  2.6   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0114 -17  2.3   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0116 -15  2.6   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0118 -10  2.8   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0120  -5  2.5   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0122  -4  2.8   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0124  -1  2.6   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0126   0  2.7   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0128  -4  2.7   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0130  -3  2.6   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0132 -11  2.5   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0134  -4  2.9   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0136  -2  2.7   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0138  -4  2.7   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0140  -8  2.6   0.504499  1 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0142  -6  3.0   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0144  -4  3.0   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0146  -3  2.9   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0148  -3  2.9   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0150  -3  3.2   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0152  -3  3.4   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0154  -1  3.4   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0202 -10  3.1   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0204 -13  3.2   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0206 -11  2.8   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0208 -11  2.8   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0210  -9  3.2   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0212  -6  2.9   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0216  -3  3.2   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0218  -6  3.5   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0224  -5  4.1   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0226  -5  4.3   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0228  -3  4.4   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>   0230  -4  4.2   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
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Strong signal XGJ

73

Victor

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Still qrp Warren?

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HI Warren,lf,

a complete callsign,

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Hello Warren, LF!<br>Good propagations this night. When I was receiving DX s=
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Graham,

despite good audible signals I did not manage to decode the MFSK16 signal.
Most likely due to my lack of experience.

I am now closing the station to get some sleep.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

PS:
I just noticed a very odd event on 500: a CW QSO (between GI4DPE, 549 =20
here, and G3GNR, not audible).

Quoting Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>:

> Ok Rik,
>
> Yes ... hihi
>
> Running
>
> USB Dial  freq - 501.000  Khz
>
> olivia  250 x 8  centre freq      2000  Hz audio    503 Khz  rf
>
> MFSK  16  centre freq  1000 Hz audio     502Khz rf
>
> Tnx - G ...
>
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Rik Strobbe" <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
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> Subject: Re: LF: Olivia 500 x 8  MFSK16  NOW RUNNING
>
>>
>> Graham,
>>
>> I just installed multipsk.
>> I believe it is the most chaotic programme I have ever seen.
>>
>> Right now 21:28UTC I hear alternating signals on 502 and 503.
>>
>> As I am not in the mood of reading the multipsk manual today could you
>> just tell me what mode is running where and what dial frequency / mode
>> (USB or LSB) I should set the RX to?
>>
>> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
>>
>> Quoting Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>:
>>
>>> Modes changed
>>>
>>> MT63   STOPPED
>>>
>>> MFSK16 ,  Centre freq   1000 Hz audio
>>>
>>> Approx  15 watts peak per stream
>>>
>>> Thanks for reports .. will run this config  an hour or so
>>>
>>> G ..
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> From: "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 7:39 PM
>>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>>> Subject: LF: If anyones about , MT63  x 500 Hz and Olivia 500 x 8
>>> running now 1935 hrs
>>>
>>>>
>>>> As a follow on to some tests  with Gary  , with Olivia  500 x 8 and the
>>>> original MT63 system
>>>>
>>>> Running  two  data streams now at about 10  watts per mode , carrier
>>>> frequencies are :-
>>>>
>>>> mt63   501.5 to  502 Khz
>>>>
>>>> olivia 500x8  503 Khz +/-  250 Hz
>>>>
>>>> The book says mt63 should not print as well as olivia .....
>>>>
>>>> tnx - G ..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Hello Victor , Joe ,
Good "VO" last night on 184509.3 ! (see on capture)
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strange: Jim (BMU) is reporting on the odd minute at wsprnet.org

Rik

Quoting Rik Strobbe <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>:

> first traces at 2210Z, first decode at 2230Z
>
> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
>
> Quoting Chris McCarthy <chris.decibel@googlemail.com>:
>
>> Jay,
>> First decode tonight 2206Z -28dB,
>> Bad QRN tonight .
>> Will keep uploading spots throughout the night to web.
>>
>> Chris, G3XVL  JO02NB (Ipswich, Suffolk)
>>
>>
>>
>> 2009/2/1 John P-G <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk>
>>
>>> On Sun, 1 Feb 2009 15:30:29 -0500
>>> <jrusgrove@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Confirming start of WSPR transmission 2030Z on 507.000 dial frequency.
>>>>
>>>> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>>>>
>>> Jay, LF,
>>>
>>> First decode at 21:48, aafter a few periods of weakly visible signs on
>>> the waterfall.
>>>
>>> 21:48 -28dB
>>>
>>> Hope you can keep the transmission going right through the UK sunrise
>>> period - say to 10:00 UTC.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> John
>>> GM4SLV
>>>
>>>
>>
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Dear Group,

The antenna is back up and the TX is on 184.5093 kHz QRSS75.
Alan G3NYK is predicting declining conditions in a day or two, but
hopfully some will copy the sigs before then.

73 thanks and good luck
Joe VO1NA



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Hello LF,
Capture last night in 1.25z.
Argo in qrss3.

73
Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV

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nil for Joe
henny cpm
73s

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Gus

>From short listening period last night:

090202 0206   1 -32  1.3   0.504499  SM6BHZ JO57 30 
090202 0210   3 -28  1.3   0.504499  SM6BHZ JO57 30 

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2




----- Original Message ----- 
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Subject: Re: LF: Re: SM6BHZ WSPR


> Rik,
> 
> thank's report !
> 
> I did some test here, dial is now 503,0 kHz
> 
> Gus
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Rik Strobbe" <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:00 PM
> Subject: Re: LF: Re: SM6BHZ WSPR
> 
> 
> Gus,
> 
> strong signal but I read it at 504.5kHz, so 503.0 dial
> Despite it is S7 here on the meter I only get SNT between -6 and +4dB
> 
> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
> 
> Quoting Gus <begu@algonet.se>:
> 
>> MessageHi LF,Peter,Dave and Lee.
>>
>> Thank's for reports !
>>
>> Transmitter run also this evening, WSPR mode dial 503,2 USB 1W ERP.
>>
>> 73 de Gus SM6BHZ
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>   ----- Original Message -----
>>   From: Lee Hudson
>>   To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>>   Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 4:38 AM
>>   Subject: LF: SM6BHZ WSPR
>>
>>
>>   Hi Gus,
>>
>>   WSPR Log received here.
>>   Available on WSPRnet too.
>>
>>   73,
>>   Lee M0LMH IO93gx.
>>
>>   0026 -13  0.8   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>   0028  -8  0.9   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>   0030  -5  1.7   0.504486  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>   0032  -2  1.4   0.504498  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>   0034  -2  1.4   0.504498  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>   0036  -3  1.5   0.504498  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>   0038  -4  1.6   0.504498  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>   0040  -3  2.0   0.504498  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>   0042  -1  1.7   0.504498  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>   0044  -2  1.8   0.504498  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>   0046  -4  1.9   0.504498  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>   0048  -5  1.8   0.504498  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>   0050  -8  2.2   0.504498  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>   0052  -1  2.2   0.504498  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>   0054   2  2.1   0.504498  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>   0056   1  2.0   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>   0058  -3  2.0   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>   0100  -1  2.1   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>   0102   0  2.3   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>   0104  -2  2.5   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>   0106  -1  2.5   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>   0108   0  2.4   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>   0110  -3  2.2   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>   0112 -10  2.6   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>   0114 -17  2.3   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>   0116 -15  2.6   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>   0118 -10  2.8   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>   0120  -5  2.5   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>   0122  -4  2.8   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>   0124  -1  2.6   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>   0126   0  2.7   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>   0128  -4  2.7   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>   0130  -3  2.6   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>   0132 -11  2.5   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>   0134  -4  2.9   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>   0136  -2  2.7   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>   0138  -4  2.7   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>   0140  -8  2.6   0.504499  1 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>   0142  -6  3.0   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>   0144  -4  3.0   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>   0146  -3  2.9   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>   0148  -3  2.9   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
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>>   0152  -3  3.4   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>   0154  -1  3.4   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>   0202 -10  3.1   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>   0204 -13  3.2   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>   0206 -11  2.8   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>   0208 -11  2.8   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>   0210  -9  3.2   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>   0212  -6  2.9   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>   0216  -3  3.2   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>   0218  -6  3.5   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>   0224  -5  4.1   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>   0226  -5  4.3   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>   0228  -3  4.4   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>   0230  -4  4.2   0.504499  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>>
>>
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LF,

G4WGT closed down 0010utc.

Gary.

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Rik Strobbe
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Gary,

solid copy, -13dB SNR here with little QSB
G4JNT is -5 / +5dB SNR, remarkable more QSB.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

Quoting Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>:

> Hi LF,
>
>
>
> Running WSPR beacon tonight for a while.
>
>
>
> Frequency 503.915KHz - 2 mW ERP (3dBm)
>
>
>
> 73,
>
>
>
> Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.
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Gary

The program keeps running okay here.

A couple other points though. Unlike Multipsk one has to specify the lower edge of the bandpass - 
not the middle. This is 120 Hz below the center. In other words if 800 Hz is your received audio 
center frequency set the frequency to 680. Maybe there is a way to set it to the center...if so I 
havn't found it.

The bigger problem is with other applications running at the same time. Just opened an internet 
browser and copy went to garbage. MultiPSK kept decoding properly.

Jay


----- Original Message ----- 
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> Jay, LF,
>
> I also downloaded Stream & it runs for about 30 seconds & freezes.
>
> 73 - Gary - G4WGT.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of
> jrusgrove@comcast.net
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>
> Rik and group
>
> Confirming start at 2130Z.
>
> Downloaded Stream earlier and was unable to get it to work. MultiPSK works
> fine. May very well be
> cockpit error. Will  look into it.
>
> Jay
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Rik Strobbe" <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
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>
>> Jay,
>>
>> It just downloaded / installed stream (IZ8BLY).
>> RX / PC is on 508.5 overnight
>>
>> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
>>
>> Quoting jrusgrove@comcast.net:
>>
>>> WE2XGR/2 will be transmitting in MFSK8 mode on 508.5 kHz from 2130Z -
>>> 0000Z tonight. Reports are appreciated.
>>>
>>> When using MultiPSK as the decoder be advised that the program has been
>>> known to occasionally go on 'walkabout' after loss of signal. Stopping
>>> and restarting the decoder seems to solve the problem.
>>>
>>> Jay  W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>>
>>
>>
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Hi Warren,lf,
capture XGJ
Henny cpm
73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
xgj 27-02.jpg

Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld.

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Warren,lf,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>capture XGJ</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>73s</FONT></DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het volgende 
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hi Henny , Joe , LF
Just a small trace last night
73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

henny van elst a =E9crit :
> Hi Lf
> nil for Joe
> Henny cpm
> 73s
>
>  =20

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Thanks Mike!  At 76, I now feel very much relieved, Stan got me sort of worr=
ied...
Henrique - CT1HX

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Mike-WE0H=20
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  Hi Stan,

  You might have another 20 years to go. 80 isn't an old fart yet...hi hi...

  Someone will have to post the details on how to subscribe & unsubscribe fr=
om this email reflector. I can't find the original message. It is something=20=
you have to do from your email address.

  Mike
  WE0H



  Stan wrote:=20
       Would you please close my  connection blacksheep. org.

      At  80  years I am finding that I am a  bit out of place..

       Thank you    Stan Andrews    ZL4MB

73
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks Mike!&nbsp; At 76, I now feel very m=
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Is this for an on-board sound card, and if not, what type of bus is it on..? 
73...Jordan....


----- Original Message ----- 
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>
> wspr and the over clocked sound card
>
> Was there a resolve to the  problem of the  short wspr  tx produced by a 
> soundcard that was running  slightly  faster than it  should
>
> 1.5 seconds short .....  about 1 %
>
> , resulting in no decodes for strong signals .. presumably by providing 
> too many sync's
>
> There is no way of changing the  sample  rate of the  card .. there is a 
> option in the  driver . but  as soon as wspr  runs . the  card reverts to 
> the  normal 44 khz setting
>
> No problems with any of the  other  systems as the  card can be calibrated 
> (though not  needed)
>
> any  fixes or ideas ??
>
> tnx
>
> Graham ..
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 



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Hi, Jay, LF,

This was on the screen when I got up here just now, along with a disapearing
trace on spectrum lab. The strongest bit of the trace was about 23:45, but
the decode might have been anytime in the last hour. I'd left it running
from about 10:00 on squelch setting 1.

TOCT FN59IS ATIMO9SK
IC31...Z4 9B 2 PURLINGT9EECT FN3IS TESTING PKUEC31...
WE=4GR/2 BURLINGTON COFN31IS. SISOG PSKFEC31.Z0
WE6XGR2 P82TE2@C31T : T
E2,53RA M 

I'll leave it running to see if anything else appears.... Don't know if you
want to maybe leave it running a bit longer than 01:00, but I'll check back
in the morning.

73 de Mike G7AQA.

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Subject: LF: WE2XGR/2 in PSKFEC31

WE2XGR/2 will be transmitting in PSKFEC31 mode tonight on 508.5 kHz starting
2130Z and will continue until at least 0100Z and perhaps beyond.

PSKFEC31 (PSK31 with forward error correction) can be decoded with the
colorful program MultiPSK - available at http://www.f6cte.free.fr/ . 
Sunglasses are recommended for the first time user. As far as I know there
are no other programs that can decode this mode. If anyone has info to the
contrary please advise.

Some background info on PSKFEC31 and other digital modes as well as tests
run by W1TAG and myself can be found at http://www.w1tag.com/600M_Modes.htm
.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2 




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Gary,

thanks for the info.
Both 502 and 503 are audible here.
I am not sure I can handle 2 instances of multipsk today, my eyes =20
still need to adapt to the colorfull display  and I am overwhelmed by =20
all the options ;-)
I will try to get the MFSK16 signal, that should be the most robust.

But as my out-of-bed time is 05:00UTC I will close down at 22:15UT

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

Quoting Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>:

> Rik,
>
> Open two instances of Multipsk, set the receiver to 501KHz USB.
>
> On one Multipsk select MFSK16 & click the cursor at 1000 on the waterfall=20=
&
> on the other Multipsk select Olivia then the Olivia mode to 8x500, button
> just over the waterfall then click the cursor on 2000.
>
> You should now be up & running both modes.
>
> 73
>
> Gary - G4WGT.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Rik Strobbe
> Sent: 04 February 2009 21:32
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: Re: LF: Olivia 500 x 8 MFSK16 NOW RUNNING
>
> Graham,
>
> I just installed multipsk.
> I believe it is the most chaotic programme I have ever seen.
>
> Right now 21:28UTC I hear alternating signals on 502 and 503.
>
> As I am not in the mood of reading the multipsk manual today could you
> just tell me what mode is running where and what dial frequency / mode
> (USB or LSB) I should set the RX to?
>
> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
>
> Quoting Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>:
>
>> Modes changed
>>
>> MT63   STOPPED
>>
>> MFSK16 ,  Centre freq   1000 Hz audio
>>
>> Approx  15 watts peak per stream
>>
>> Thanks for reports .. will run this config  an hour or so
>>
>> G ..
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 7:39 PM
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>> Subject: LF: If anyones about , MT63  x 500 Hz and Olivia 500 x 8
>> running now 1935 hrs
>>
>>>
>>> As a follow on to some tests  with Gary  , with Olivia  500 x 8 and the
>>> original MT63 system
>>>
>>> Running  two  data streams now at about 10  watts per mode , carrier
>>> frequencies are :-
>>>
>>> mt63   501.5 to  502 Khz
>>>
>>> olivia 500x8  503 Khz +/-  250 Hz
>>>
>>> The book says mt63 should not print as well as olivia .....
>>>
>>> tnx - G ..
>>>
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Thanks Henny!
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73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
                WE2XEB/2
                WE2XGR/1

2009/2/27 henny van elst <cpm@planet.nl>:
> Hi Warren,lf,
> capture XGJ
> Henny cpm
> 73s
> Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden
> verzonden:
> xgj 27-02.jpg
>
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> A likely "heater" candidate
> would be Zehlendorf 177 kHz, which has been reported in DRM mode after midnight
> - could someone perhaps confirm the times of digital operation?
> 

177kHz DRM-Mode from 2:00 - 5:00 local time, which means of course 1:00-4:00 UT at "wintertime" .

73
Dennis
DL6NVC
Berlin, 29km from Zehlendorf TX Tower 













> Another "mystery" noise band sometimes appears at night, about 200 Hz wide
> centered on 137.07 kHz, and of easterly origin (red):
> http://www.alice-dsl.net/df6nm/test0902210100.png
> In this capture, there is also a weaker replica of this band centered on
> 137.19 (north, violet). This combination would suggest Luxembourg effect on
> both HGA22 (east) and DCF39 (north), caused by a common heater carrying
> 1.64 kHz AM modulation. However I have no clue to what the source is, and why
> it would carry such an unusual modulation spectrum.
> 
> Kind regards,
> Markus, DF6NM

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I consider the 65' vertical portion as the net effective radiator...

The two nearly horizontal wires are merely matching wires and radiation from 
them are near straight up and down, just my mental picture...

Sure is quiet and only takes one vacuum variable to tune...
No other matching or lossy loading...

Dave






>> ref: http://www.radiocom.net/600M/LOOP109.jpg
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Hello Nicolas,

thanks for the reception report. 675 km QRB, not bad for the low power I hav=
e, I am only using an 8 m long "long"-wire antenna. This surely is a challen=
ge. But it looks as if the frequency is reasonable clear at your QTH (beside=
s thundersorms).

Vy 73

Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO

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  Hello Geri,weak signals each night here with a deep QSB,No luck of the dis=
tant thunderstorms come to perturb me the reception.


  F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP

  RX : Icom IC7400
  Ant: Wellbrook LFL 1010

  http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/


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HI Warren,lf

good signal but a lot of qrm on this site,

73

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Wolf & group

Nice catch on the date error. I had used the windoz clock calendar to look up a date in 
January...and forgot to move it back to February.

All stations so far reporting poorer condx than last night with later start times.

Will let beacon run until 1030Z - my normal O dark 30 out of sack time.

Good luck to all.

Jay


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Wolfgang Büscher" <dl4yhf@freenet.de>
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> Happy new year Jay ... your email was timestamped January(!) 1st, 2009, so I only found it by 
> accident in the sorted list of recent mails.
>
> > From: <jrusgrove@....>
> > To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> > References: <006801....@JimPC>
> > Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 15:58:05 -0500    << ?
>
>
> Joking aside, I will let WSPR run overnight. As usual, the QRM is terrible here at the moment. Not 
> the faintest trace on the spectrogram yet.
>
> 73,
>   Wolf .
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>
> 



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Glad you asked, Andy...  Hope this one makes it past the spam filter...

Back in the commercial AM transmitter biz days I buried miles of extra 
copper in to poor conductivity soil and gained little or nothing.
Then came Bill Ashloop who proved that a small transmit loop can do quite 
well.
http://www.wireless.org.uk/loopy.htm
http://www.w1tag.com/XESANT.htm

So I surveryed the back yard which sits on very poor conductivity soil and 
therefore makes a loop appear to me more in free space and here are the 
advantages that I have found to date:

No high voltage wire ends to start tree fires. No wasted power going into 
and out of the ground...

Much less wire used in a LOOP transmit antenna. This #4 stranded HV wire 
rests inside of 100' sections of garden hose and is hoisted into trees with 
help of compound bow and pull line.

No top loading, no radials, much less noise on RX, E-Z to tune and weather 
does not affect the tuning much such as from rain or snow, and it acts like 
a good vertical regardless of being much simpler.

As for the CONS, well I just don't think of any...  Somebody??

It works very well from 600M to 6M and is the only real antenna that I still 
have.

Various feeds as noted below will let you tune it down to SAQ@17kc which I 
always hear and also makes for superb DX on 6M in 'some directions'.

ref: http://www.radiocom.net/600M/LOOP109.jpg

Wish I had a El-Nec printout but can't seem to fit this version in to it.

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Have a quiet night and TNX from Dave @ WD2XSH/17








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> Having now been encouraged by being decoded now by at least two US
> stations,  was wondering how much improvement in efficiency I could
> scrape out of my existing antenna.  It is a Marconi Tee, the vertical
> element consisting of three wires from the base tapering to 200mm
> spacing at the top.  There it is attached to the centre of a a
> capacity hat 15m long and 200mm wide made of three parallel wires.
>
> The ground system is a bit haphazard in my 7m wide by 12m long garden,
> with about 4 wires meeting at the base of the antenna meandering
> around the garden, starting off in different directions from teh base.
> They are all connected to substantial ground rods in heavy clay  at
> their far points, a with a few randomly spaced rods in between (I used
> several 1m lengths of 15mm water pipe as well as proper rods - there
> is probably about 9 or 10 rods in total, mostly 1 - 2m in length -
> can't remember that far back!   Some of the earth conductors were also
> bonded to the house wiring by a couple of substantial straps, and even
> inside the house I added more straps at strategic places.   I also
> ensured there was a good fat cable run directly under as much of the
> capacity hat as possible.   As a test, disconnecting the PME earthing
> bond and measuring the DC resistance between my total set of
> connections and the incoming conductor ground/neutral point, the value
> was a pretty consistent 3 ohms.  Haven't done this test for a few
> years, but at the last check it was still of this order.
>
> Back in the 73kHz days a number of (mostly big!) stations were
> surprised my signal was as strong as it was for probably the smallest
> antenna in use then; G3LDO put it down to the fact I had concentrated
> plenty of earthing wire to run directly under the top-hat.
>
> But, its all 14 years old,  still OK, but hopefully there's a wealth
> of experience now, and I wonder if there are obvious improvements that
> could be made:
>
> Firstly, bearing in mind there is no scope whatsoever to raise one end
> of the capacity hat which is defined by the apex of the house roof,
> and the other end would also need some major sugery to raise its heigh
> substantially, that only leaves the middle, ie the height of the
> actual radiator.    It wouldn't be too difficult to raise this to 10m
> or even more with a fibreglass pole, but will I be throwing away all
> the advantage by having the top-hat drooping down to 7m?
>
> Secondly, pictures of other peoples antennas aften show a substantial
> grounding plate immediately under and around the antenna base.  Just
> how far out is is worth going with a really substantial base.   I
> could cut more conductors into the ground; while the ground is still
> is still soggy in March may be a good time to do this.
>
> Any ideas please ...?
>
>
> Andy  G4JNT
> www.g4jnt.com
> 



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f4dtl@aol.com wrote:
> Hello friends,
> 
> Not bad reception of SAQ transmission this morning in JN08WN (my job)
> Not QSB and not QRN,thanx to Lars and the Grimeton's team.
> 
> *F4DTL /P Nicolas*

There has been an SAQ transmission this morning ? I haven't seen it advertised anywhere...
May be I didn't pay enough attention...

73  Alberto  I2PHD




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Not very good propagations this morning here. Band was noisy.

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Hi Lf,
capture rn3agc
hENNY CPM
73S

Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
rn3agc 20-02.jpg

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Lf,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>capture rn3agc</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>hENNY CPM</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>73S</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het 
volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:<BR>rn3agc 
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<font face="Arial">Heck ya!!! Lots of RF will burn off the bad cells
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Mike<br>
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Henrique&nbsp; wrote:
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  <div><font face="Arial" size="2">Thanks Mike!&nbsp; At 76, I now feel very
much relieved, Stan got me sort of worried...</font></div>
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    <font face="Arial">Hi Stan,<br>
    <br>
You might have another 20 years to go. 80 isn't an old fart yet...hi
hi...<br>
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Someone will have to post the details on how to subscribe &amp;
unsubscribe from this email reflector. I can't find the original
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Mike<br>
WE0H<br>
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Stan wrote:
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      <pre wrap="">       Would you please close my  connection blacksheep. org.

      At  80  years I am finding that I am a  bit out of place..

       Thank you    Stan Andrews    ZL4MB

73
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Dave,

l believe that G3XIZ was transmitting QRSS30 on that frequency, saw 
him on Gary's grabber.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

BTW: inter-Europe condx seemed very good yesterday:
DI & OK beacons were booming as was SK6RUD.
Also good copy of GI4DPE beacon (peaking 579)
Strong (599+) daytime copy of G3KEV, obviously enjoying the new 10W 
ERP privileges


At 03:07 20/02/2009, you wrote:
>UNID QRSS on 503.950 now, too much QRN
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>TNX
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Hello Jay, nice conditions this night,
 
 
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Hi Geri & LF!
Whats a schedule of DI2BO? 24h on the air?

* "Holger 'Geri', DK8KW" <geri@dk8kw.de> [Mon, 16 Feb 2009 18:20:28 
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> Hi folks,
>
> DI2BO's experimental license is valid for two frequencise, 440 kHz and
> 505.1 kHz (both +/- 100 Hz). Currently the beacon is transmitting on
> 440.015 kHz in QRSS3 and ID in CW. ERP is in the 50 mW range.
>
> Status of the beacon can be seen at www.qru.de/di2bo. Reports are
> welcome (as usual).
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> Vy 73
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Hello Warren, LF!
FB propagation, as you can see on the picture.

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

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Pozvi sv=E9 p=F8=E1tele z Facebooku a Hotmailu do Messengeru!
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Hello Marco and group,

I will be QRV on sunday morning from the club station, and look for your 
(and any other) signal on 136....137 kHz.

Any activity appreciated; even stations worked 10 times before on LF,  
please don't hesitate to call in.

CUL,
  Wolf DL4YHF / DK4U on LF .


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Traces of XGJ,also strong signals from AGC and WPF,

73

Victor

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Has everybody had their 500kHz NoV extensions yet, or am I the only
one not to receive it ?
Until 23:59:59 2009/02/28 I hope to have the WSPR beacon running each
evening and overnight on 503.870kHz 23dBm ERP.   After that date, if
nothing received it may QSY to topband as that's a band I've never
used before.

Andy  G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com


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As a follow on to some tests  with Gary  , with Olivia  500 x 8 and the 
original MT63 system

Running  two  data streams now at about 10  watts per mode , carrier 
frequencies are :-

mt63   501.5 to  502 Khz

olivia 500x8  503 Khz +/-  250 Hz

The book says mt63 should not print as well as olivia .....

tnx - G ..

 




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Fldig  Farq beacon  bpsk125  503 Khz 

running till  2400 , psl try connect

tnx - G ..  



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I was brought up in Geordie-land. I went to college in Manchester and had ar=
guments about how Manchester was in the South of England !! I still think I'=
m right.......
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Brian (G3YKB)

--- On Tue, 24/2/09, John RABSON <john.rabson@wanadoo.fr> wrote:

North-east?  My father-in-law (a Geordie) always insisted that Yorkshire was
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uth of England !! I still think I'm right.......</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Brian (G3YKB)</DIV>
<DIV><BR>--- On <B>Tue, 24/2/09, John RABSON <I>&lt;john.rabson@wanadoo.fr&g=
t;</I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
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6,16,255) 2px solid"><PRE>North-east?  My father-in-law (a Geordie) always i=
nsisted that Yorkshire was
part of the Midlands.

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On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 22:20:55 -0000
"Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

> John,
> 
> Is the entry on the uk500khz grabbers page  out of date ??
> 
> G ..
>

I don't run the grabber 24/7 anymore, but set it up as/when - just
uploading a jpg every 5 minutes.

For completeness I've edited the "grabber page" HTML to display the
correct jpg image

The URL for the image is

http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/gm4slv/gm4slv_500.jpg

the URL for the HTML page is (this will allow automatic 5-minute
refresh)

http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/gm4slv/grabber.htm


Unfortunately the IC-R75 doesn't have the nice wide IF filtering of the
AR7030 which used to allow me to show from 499.8 to 505.3.

Currently the "default" is to show 500.9 - 502.3 which covers Finbar,
Mike GW4HXO and Rog GW3UEP when they have their CW beacons running -
and also shows the odd QSO too.

During any specific tests the grabber will refelect what I'm tuned
to...

Cheers,

John
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=20
Hello Marco im beaconing now 137776 QRSS60 for tests with russians  grabbers
=20
=20
F4DTL  Nicolas JN18FP
_http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/_ (http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/)=20
=20

=20
Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 01/02/2009 00:05:15 Paris, Madrid, =20
marco.scholz@citi.com a =E9crit :

Merci  Nicolas.

Many thanks for your help. Yes i will send Jeff a QSL card. =20
You see i managed now 3 QSO's on 137KHz in QRSS3 and i'm very happy about =20
this. Now i must optimize my setup. There is still a lot to do.

Good  night and thanks  again
vy73
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Jay,

I will leave the RX / computer running overnight with squelch set to 1.
I will report tomorrow.

73, Rik

Quoting jrusgrove@comcast.net:

> Rik & group
>
> Confirming start of PSKFEC31 at 2130Z. Not too optimistic on this mode
> but we'll see. GL and thanks for listening / watching. Jay
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rik Strobbe"  =20
> <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
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>
>
>> Jay,
>>
>> I am listening, will you give a confirmation when you take off ?
>>
>> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
>>
>> Quoting jrusgrove@comcast.net:
>>
>>> WE2XGR/2 will be transmitting in PSKFEC31 mode tonight on 508.5 kHz
>>> starting 2130Z and will continue until at least 0100Z and perhaps
>>> beyond.
>>>
>>> PSKFEC31 (PSK31 with forward error correction) can be decoded with the
>>> colorful program MultiPSK - available at http://www.f6cte.free.fr/ .
>>> Sunglasses are recommended for the first time user. As far as I know
>>> there are no other programs that can decode this mode. If anyone has
>>> info to the contrary please advise.
>>>
>>> Some background info on PSKFEC31 and other digital modes as well as
>>> tests run by W1TAG and myself can be found at
>>> http://www.w1tag.com/600M_Modes.htm .
>>>
>>> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>>
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Hello Joe , LF ,

I copy traces last night off VO1NA
see capture .

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Mark,



I think 'we are looking at situation parallel with the  argument of using 
video enhancement  as evidence in the  judicial system , in that the 
adjacent  pixel decisions do  not  always result in a correct recovery of 
the  original data .. and  over lay filters / masks can be 'biased' I assume 
this is the  case as the  recovered call signs are in a recognisable format 
and not  simply  random data .. ?


> I am coming to the conclusion that the single reported signal level is
> barely adequate on 500KHz, an pretty useless when the QSB is fast.. what
> WSPR software needs for studying propagation is perhaps 10 or 20  sig 
> level
> measurements per period,

Funny  you  should  mention that , this  page was started Nov 2007 , with 
the same in mind !

http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk500khz/web/the-big-beacon-project

G...

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From: "Mark" <markhughes1@blueyonder.co.uk>
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 8:17 AM
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Subject: LF: Re: WSPR Spots

>
> Hi all,
> The spurious calls generated here are as a result of a wideband birdie 
> that
> wanders through the 500KHz band, probably a switchmode PSU
> Not all the bad decodes get uploaded, so there would appear to be some
> filtering of what is uploaded
> What the software needs is a checkbox after each decode, so that the user
> can mark bad messages, the system could them automatically remove those 
> from
> the database
>
> I have also been analysing the spots by graphing signal strength, and
> comparing for example my reception of SM5BHZ with that of other stations.
> (for anyone interested I have used an Excel macro to download specified
> spots from the web database, and put them in a formal easy to use with the
> graph wizard)
>
> I am coming to the conclusion that the single reported signal level is
> barely adequate on 500KHz, an pretty useless when the QSB is fast.. what
> WSPR software needs for studying propagation is perhaps 10 or 20  sig 
> level
> measurements per period, just uploaded to the database for future study. 
> I
> have suggested this to Joe, but I think he has higher priorities and 
> no-one
> else has requested anything similar
>
> Regards
> Mark GM4ISM
> www.dc2light.co.uk
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Andy Talbot" <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 10:11 PM
> Subject: LF: WSPR Spots
>
>
>> According to the WSPR Spot database, there is some "interesting" DX
>> being received chez GM4ISM.
>> Is there some carrier or coherent  QRM present to generate these false
>> hits?
>>
>> Just got a WSPR generating routine running on a 16F628 PIC with AD9852
>> DDS combination.
>> At the moment it only operates at 100% duty cycle, but I'm Looking at
>> PN sequences for randomised transmission slots with 20/25/33% Duty
>> cycle operation.
>>
>> Andy  G4JNT
>> www.g4jnt.com
>>
>>
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Hi, Jay, LF,

Nothing decoded here. Might well have been finger trouble on my part, but
left MultiPSK running overnight and it seemed to behave itself.

Mike G7AQA.

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Subject: LF: WE2XGR/2 in MFSK8

WE2XGR/2 will be transmitting in MFSK8 mode on 508.5 kHz from 2130Z - 0000Z
tonight. Reports are appreciated.

When using MultiPSK as the decoder be advised that the program has been
known to occasionally go on 'walkabout' after loss of signal. Stopping and
restarting the decoder seems to solve the problem.

Jay  W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2 




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On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 12:50 AM,  <victor13@online.nl> wrote:
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> capture of xgj at 5:38z
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Any EUs coming up on WSPR tonight??

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Thanks Markus.

I'm at the club station now, but very noisy, and the wind getting stronger b=
y the minute.
Time to return home soon, before the snow arrives.

73,
  Wolf (with frozen fingers on the key, still.... )

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Betreff: LF: Re: Activity on 136.6 kHz / sunday morning
Gesendet: So 01 Feb 2009 10:34:43 CET
Von: "Markus Vester"<markusvester@aol.com>

> yes it's OE5PGL in CW, currently calling CQ on 136.595.
>  73 + GL de Markus, DF6NM




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Hi all,
Not withstanding the fickle nature of propagation, my WSPR / Grabber receive 
antenna is not the most efficient, and does suffer from an elevated noise 
floor compared to my main station antenna.
Signals are typically 6dB stronger on the inverted L, though I have not 
spent any great effort quantifying the differences.
One of the true benefits of WSPR is measurement of signal level variations 
at one location, but to get  meaningful data on relative strength between 
stations would take many receive stations with identical equipment.
That is of course eminently possible, a cheap PC and a standard ferrite rod 
active receive system + simple SDR would enable a major propagation study.
Most amateurs have a PC and internet, if a cheap design were published for a 
WSPR monitor station, we could potentially get many listening stations QRV 
and gather a lot of interesting data. not many transmitters need be on, so 
no problem for non NOV holders.
With other 'front ends' any band could be monitored.

How cheap can we make such a system, is anyone interested?
Mark GM4ISM




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Andy Talbot" <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 9:20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: More WSPRing


> That's very interesting -  I appear to be 10 - 15dB better S/N with
> you Johan (-5db S/N) at 1200km, than with GM4ISM (-20dB S/N) at 577km.
>
> Background noise levels ?
> Sea path ?
>
> Andy  G4JNT
> www.g4jnt.com
>
>
>
> 2009/2/23 Johan H. Bodin <jh.bodin@telia.com>:
>> Solid copy in JO67MR Andy, including the CW ID!
>>
>>
>> 73
>> Johan SM6LKM
>>
>> Andy Talbot wrote:
>>> 503.870 +23dBm ERP running now,  34.375% duty cycle ...
>>>
>>> Andy  G4JNT
>>> www.g4jnt.com
>>
>>
>
>


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Rik,

Amazing .. looks like mfsk16 works too well hihi !

the arq mode seems a little sticky .. but when working seems to  be fine

tnx for the report

G ..


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From: "Rik Strobbe" <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
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Subject: Re: LF: Fldig Farq  mfsk16  beacon  503 Khz  pls try connect ?

>
> Graham,
>
> that's what I got here:
>
> ARQ:EMAIL::
> ARQ:SIZE::147
> ARQ::STX
> //FLARQ COMPOSER
> Date: 02/05/09 21:19:30
> To: m0bmu
> From:
> Subje9337=01
> =0100!: t=D8l test
>
> Hi Jim ..l yes the email has arrived all 100 %
>
> tnx- G
>
> ARQ::ETX
>
> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
>
>
> Quoting Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>:
>
>>
>> Follow on from last night Running Fldig in 'farq'  mode at 503 Khz
>> centre frequency Beacon  set every 60  seconds Pls try connect and
>> leave a message mycal set to  G0NBD
>>
>>
>>
>> Set USB  501 Khz Audio set 2000 Hz Mode mfsk 16 Farq running , Software
>> from :-
>>
>> http://www.w1hkj.com/Fldigi.html
>
>
>
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Andy,

the CW ID is 559 here, WSPR is no challenge ;-)

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

Quoting Andy Talbot <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>:

> WSPR beacon now running
> 503.870kHz centre, SSB Dial freq 502.4kHz >> 1470Hz
> 33% duty cycle (32 frame repeat).
>
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My last message didn't get through... does this work?
Was trying to help a colleague who was having trouble subscribing to this
reflector, even though he was doing exactly the right thing his message was
being bounced by a spam filter. Is there any way round this?

Dave.

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My last message didn&#39;t get through... does this work?<br>Was trying to h=
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hough he was doing exactly the right thing his message was being bounced by=20=
a spam filter. Is there any way round this?<br>
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Hi Dave, LF,

The frequency you refer to is usually occupied by Chris G3XIZ, I have looked
at my grabber saves & the beacon was running from 2253utc last night to
0838utc this morning.

Finbar GI4DPE normally uses 501.057KHz for his beacon activities.

I have attached part of the saved image showing 503.950KHz.

Grabbers at :-

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber1.html

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html

Cheers,

Gary - G4WGT.



-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of dave.riley3
Sent: 15 February 2009 10:49
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: 503.950

Saw what looked like a CW beacon separated by long ( 8 second dash? ) in 
between on 503.950 but it was too weak to make aural ID, however it looked 
like Finbar's CW beacon signature.

This was last night ( Saturday ).

Local QRN was up about 3-4 db masking other sigs as well...


TNX

Dave @ WD2XSH/17



 


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According to the WSPR Spot database, there is some "interesting" DX
being received chez GM4ISM.
Is there some carrier or coherent  QRM present to generate these false hits?

Just got a WSPR generating routine running on a 16F628 PIC with AD9852
DDS combination.
At the moment it only operates at 100% duty cycle, but I'm Looking at
PN sequences for randomised transmission slots with 20/25/33% Duty
cycle operation.

Andy  G4JNT
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First decode of the evening here.  14 minutes after the first one yesterday.
Conditions are much noiser than they were then.   Very impulsive
broadband noise covering tens of kHz  with durations of 10s to 100s of
ms

2009-02-01 22:12   WE2XGR   0.508530   -28   0   FN31   +57   501.187
 G4JNT   IO90iv   5399   3355

Andy  G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com



2009/2/1 Rik Strobbe <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>:
> Jay,
>
> nil here at 2145Z, not even traces.
> Last night I had traces starting 2120Z and first copy at 2144Z.
> QRN is very bad for this time of the year.
> I will leave the RX on overnight with WSPR running, so eventual copies will
> be uploaded.
>
> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
>
> Quoting jrusgrove@comcast.net:
>
>> Confirming start of WSPR transmission 2030Z on 507.000 dial frequency.
>>
>> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>
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Hello Henny , Joe , LF

Nil also for VO1NA

73 Jean-Pierre f1afj

henny van elst a =E9crit :
> Hi All,
> nil for Joe
> Henny pa3cpm
> best 73s
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Laurence,

it is at http://www.qsl.net/on7yd/zip/ArgoUpload112.zip
It works here
I can send it (direct) attached to an email (222kB).

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

At 09:24 9/02/2009, you wrote:
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>Note sure if the Chinese have blocked it but=20
>cant get download on Rik ON7YD's Argoupload prog. Is it just my location?
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>Anyone got a good link?
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>With thanks
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I can send it (direct) attached to an email (222kB).<br><br>
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Scott:
Its precisely that an LFSR does not give what is needed that made me
start thinking along these lines.   For one thing, LFSRs are only
random if considered over the whole repeat length, viz  2 ^ N - 1 bit
for a maximal length sequence.   They will have one single run of
exactly N ones, and N-1 zeroes, and a predicatable numbers of runs of
fewer successive equal bits.  It is a well established annoyance with
these that short register lengths cannot be used to generate
half-decent pseudo randomness

What I was idly speculating on was a straightforward way of generating
a semi-random sequence with deliberately limited continuous runs of
ones or zeroes.  By forcing this aspect, the sequence cannot possibly
be random. A ideal sequence would probably have very little
statistical randomness at all.  But it sems to have turned out to be
not at all straightforward.

Eg 33% duty cycle with no randomisation
      001001001001001001001001001001
A true PN sequence at 33% could be like
      010000111100100000001100101000
which has an excessively long sequence of ones for WSPR Tx purposes
A more optimised pattern might be
      001010100001010100100010001010
Apart from one bit, this one is actually a smaller pattern repeated.

Which all comes down to the idea that its easiest to just generate (by
inspection !) a set of precomputed tables - but that just feels like
cheating and I feel dissatisfied with it :-)

Andy
www.g4jnt.com



2009/2/21 Scott Tilley <sthed475@telus.net>:
> Hi Andy
>
> Try a 'Linear Feedback Shift Register', Google it...
>
> Very simple to implement in a MCU and can be scaled to any size you like.  I
> wrote some code to do this in PIC assembly years ago that was only a few
> lines long for a 256bit sequence...
>
> Best of all you can predict the outcome and choose a sequence that meets
> your needs given a unique seed word....
>
> Better yet it offers a means of identification over a long term integration
> :-)
>
> 73 Scott
> VE7TIL
>
>
> Andy Talbot wrote:
>>
>> ...but if any mathematicians,  number theorists or cryptographers
>> should be reading this...
>>
>> I've just got a WSPR generating routine running on a PIC / AD9852 /
>> GPS combination, but I'm looking for a half-decent way of generating a
>> pseudo random Tx/Rx sequence with defined duty cycle that does not
>> give the long(ish) consecutive runs of 0's or 1's that MUST ALWAYS
>> occasionally be seen in a truly random sequence.
>>
>> In other words, the sequence needs to be bandpass filtered.
>>
>> Before I cop-out and just use a pre-generated set of lookup tables,
>> take a look at   http://www.g4jnt.com/WSPR_PN_Sequence.pdf
>> for a fuller description of the mind-bender
>>
>>
>> Andy  G4JNT
>> www.g4jnt.com
>>
>>
>>
>
>


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Hello Joe,

Thank you to keep us informed , courage to repair aerial !
The storm prevailed here 3 weeks ago , the winds have
reach the 200 k/h in the south of France . I did not have a
damage at the station .

73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

jcraig@mun.ca a =E9crit :
>
> Thank-you Henny and others who were monitoring.
> Unfortunately, as a result of another vile altercation
> with Mother Nature (100 k winds/nasty snow storm) the
> LF aerial is in a bad way!
>
> Will report on progress as it is repaired.
>
> 73 and thanks
> Joe VO1NA
>
> On Thu, 19 Feb 2009, henny van elst wrote:
>
>> Hi Joe and All,
>> nil in the screen
>> Henny cpm
>> 73s
>>
>
>
>

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Hello Geri,weak signals each night here with a deep QSB,No luck of the  
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Dear LF,

during parts of most nights, the Luxembourg crossmodulation shows a regular=20=
banding structure across a wide frequency range, quite unlike the typical pa=
tterns of AM music modulation:
http://www.alice-dsl.net/df6nm/test0902210320.png
The band spacing matches the subcarrier spectrum for "Mode A" DRM digital mo=
dulation (204 carriers spaced 41.66 Hz). A likely "heater" candidate would b=
e Zehlendorf 177 kHz, which has been reported in DRM mode after midnight - c=
ould someone perhaps confirm the times of digital operation?

Another "mystery" noise band sometimes appears at night, about 200 Hz wide c=
entered on 137.07 kHz, and of easterly origin (red):
http://www.alice-dsl.net/df6nm/test0902210100.png
In this capture, there is also a weaker replica of this band centered on 137=
.19 (north, violet). This combination would suggest Luxembourg effect on bot=
h HGA22 (east) and DCF39 (north), caused by a common heater carrying 1.64 kH=
z AM modulation. However I have no clue to what the source is, and why it wo=
uld carry such an unusual modulation spectrum.

Kind regards,
Markus, DF6NM

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dear LF,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>during parts of most nights, the Luxembourg=
=20
crossmodulation shows a regular banding structure across a wide frequency ra=
nge,=20
quite&nbsp;unlike the typical patterns of AM music modulation:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A   href=3D"http://www.alice-dsl.net/df6nm=
/test0902210320.png">http://www.alice-dsl.net/df6nm/test0902210320.png</A></=
FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The&nbsp;band spacing&nbsp;matches=20
the&nbsp;subcarrier spectrum for "Mode A" DRM digital modulation&nbsp;(204=20
carriers&nbsp;spaced 41.66 Hz). A likely "heater" candidate would be Zehlend=
orf=20
177 kHz, which has been reported in DRM mode&nbsp;after midnight - could som=
eone=20
perhaps confirm the times of digital operation?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Another "mystery" noise band&nbsp;sometimes=
 appears=20
at night, about 200 Hz wide centered on 137.07 kHz, and of easterly origin=20
(red):</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A   href=3D"http://www.alice-dsl.net/df6nm=
/test0902210100.png">http://www.alice-dsl.net/df6nm/test0902210100.png</A></=
FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>In this capture, there is also a weaker rep=
lica of=20
this&nbsp;band centered on 137.19 (north, violet). This combination would=20
suggest Luxembourg effect on&nbsp;both HGA22&nbsp;(east) and DCF39 (north),=20
caused by a common heater carrying 1.64 kHz AM modulation. However I have no=
=20
clue to&nbsp;what the source is, and&nbsp;why it&nbsp;would&nbsp;carry&nbsp;=
such=20
an unusual&nbsp;modulation spectrum.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Kind=20
regards,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Markus, DF6NM</FONT></DIV>
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G, LF,

Now getting 100% copy of the MFSK16, but only snatches of any
recognisable characters fromteh Olivia!

J



On Wed, 4 Feb 2009 21:11:51 -0000
"Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

> Modes changed
> 
> MT63   STOPPED
> 
> MFSK16 ,  Centre freq   1000 Hz audio
> 
> Approx  15 watts peak per stream
> 
> Thanks for reports .. will run this config  an hour or so
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> G ..
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> Subject: LF: If anyones about , MT63  x 500 Hz and Olivia 500 x 8
> running now 1935 hrs
> 
> >
> > As a follow on to some tests  with Gary  , with Olivia  500 x 8 and
> > the original MT63 system
> >
> > Running  two  data streams now at about 10  watts per mode , carrier
> > frequencies are :-
> >
> > mt63   501.5 to  502 Khz
> >
> > olivia 500x8  503 Khz +/-  250 Hz
> >
> > The book says mt63 should not print as well as olivia .....
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> > tnx - G ..
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nice capture di2bo
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73s
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>nice capture di2bo</FONT></DIV>
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On Sat, 31 Jan 2009 23:40:59 -0000
"Mike Hawkshaw" <mike@spikey-mike.com> wrote:

> Jay, LF.
> 
> I never thought I'd be able to receive a signal on 500kHz from so far
> away; this is astonishing! 

Mike, LF et al,

Well done - I was amazed to see so many people reporting Jay's signals
on WSPRnet, and glad to see your success especially!

Jay-  this is too easy - I thought MF transatlantic propagation was a
difficult hit and miss affair, but most of us seem to be decoding every
period. There is some slow QSB tonight, but never deep enough here to
prevent decoding. Listening on headphones, with the RX in normal SSB
bandwidth, your sig resovling at approx 1.5kHz. I can  hear you
by ear most of the time. I've no doubt we could work CW at this S/N
ratio (assuming I could radiate a reciprocal ERP!)

Perhaps next time you need to do a QRP experiment - hi!


Cheers,

John
GM4SLV


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Hi Warren,lf,

very good signal 5:40z

73

Victor

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Graham,

I just installed multipsk.
I believe it is the most chaotic programme I have ever seen.

Right now 21:28UTC I hear alternating signals on 502 and 503.

As I am not in the mood of reading the multipsk manual today could you =20
just tell me what mode is running where and what dial frequency / mode =20
(USB or LSB) I should set the RX to?

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

Quoting Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>:

> Modes changed
>
> MT63   STOPPED
>
> MFSK16 ,  Centre freq   1000 Hz audio
>
> Approx  15 watts peak per stream
>
> Thanks for reports .. will run this config  an hour or so
>
> G ..
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 7:39 PM
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Subject: LF: If anyones about , MT63  x 500 Hz and Olivia 500 x 8
> running now 1935 hrs
>
>>
>> As a follow on to some tests  with Gary  , with Olivia  500 x 8 and the
>> original MT63 system
>>
>> Running  two  data streams now at about 10  watts per mode , carrier
>> frequencies are :-
>>
>> mt63   501.5 to  502 Khz
>>
>> olivia 500x8  503 Khz +/-  250 Hz
>>
>> The book says mt63 should not print as well as olivia .....
>>
>> tnx - G ..
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Ok Rik.

Thanks for having a go , but can try agen

tnx - G ..

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From: "Rik Strobbe" <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 10:25 PM
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Subject: Re: LF: Olivia 500 x 8  MFSK16  NOW RUNNING

>
> Graham,
>
> despite good audible signals I did not manage to decode the MFSK16 signal.
> Most likely due to my lack of experience.
>
> I am now closing the station to get some sleep.
>
> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
>
> PS:
> I just noticed a very odd event on 500: a CW QSO (between GI4DPE, 549
> here, and G3GNR, not audible).
>
> Quoting Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>:
>
>> Ok Rik,
>>
>> Yes ... hihi
>>
>> Running
>>
>> USB Dial  freq - 501.000  Khz
>>
>> olivia  250 x 8  centre freq      2000  Hz audio    503 Khz  rf
>>
>> MFSK  16  centre freq  1000 Hz audio     502Khz rf
>>
>> Tnx - G ...
>>
>>
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Rik Strobbe" <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 9:32 PM
>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Subject: Re: LF: Olivia 500 x 8  MFSK16  NOW RUNNING
>>
>>>
>>> Graham,
>>>
>>> I just installed multipsk.
>>> I believe it is the most chaotic programme I have ever seen.
>>>
>>> Right now 21:28UTC I hear alternating signals on 502 and 503.
>>>
>>> As I am not in the mood of reading the multipsk manual today could you
>>> just tell me what mode is running where and what dial frequency / mode
>>> (USB or LSB) I should set the RX to?
>>>
>>> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
>>>
>>> Quoting Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>:
>>>
>>>> Modes changed
>>>>
>>>> MT63   STOPPED
>>>>
>>>> MFSK16 ,  Centre freq   1000 Hz audio
>>>>
>>>> Approx  15 watts peak per stream
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for reports .. will run this config  an hour or so
>>>>
>>>> G ..
>>>>
>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>> From: "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 7:39 PM
>>>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>>>> Subject: LF: If anyones about , MT63  x 500 Hz and Olivia 500 x 8
>>>> running now 1935 hrs
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> As a follow on to some tests  with Gary  , with Olivia  500 x 8 and 
>>>>> the
>>>>> original MT63 system
>>>>>
>>>>> Running  two  data streams now at about 10  watts per mode , carrier
>>>>> frequencies are :-
>>>>>
>>>>> mt63   501.5 to  502 Khz
>>>>>
>>>>> olivia 500x8  503 Khz +/-  250 Hz
>>>>>
>>>>> The book says mt63 should not print as well as olivia .....
>>>>>
>>>>> tnx - G ..
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
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Hi Joe,Lf,
The complete call Joe,
Henny CPM
Best 73s
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Joe,Lf,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The complete call Joe,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Henny CPM</FONT></DIV>
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Hi Jay, LFers,

Nice solid copy here, right from the get-go, using the
MultiPSK prog.  The tones are very clear coming from
the computer's speaker.  I'm also looking at the sigs
using Argo on my second box...reminds me of the perf
tape the old TTY machines churned out.  I'll send a
screen shot directly to you Jay.

73, J.B., VE3EAR-VE3WZL


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Thanks Henny!

73
Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV


>Hi All,
>capture agc
>henny cpm
>73s
>Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
>AGC 07-02.jpg
>
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Lubos, Henny, Willem, and Victor,
   Thanks all for the captures of XGJ!

--=20
73 Warren K2ORS
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2009/2/11 Lubos OK2BVG <bvgbob@hotmail.com>:
> Hello Warren, LF!
> FB propagation, but very bad weather (snow and wind).
>
> Lubo=B9, OK2BVG, JN88KS
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Lubos,

    The cats and dogs may play but XGJ wins the day!
Thank you for the capture!
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73 Warren K2ORS
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2009/2/27 Lubos OK2BVG <bvgbob@hotmail.com>:
> Hello Warren, LF!
> It=B4s raining cats and dogs, but signal from XGJ is here.
>
> Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS
>
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Hi Jay, LF,

I was not using WSPR but I inspected the overnight captures from my grabber.

First frame in visually at 2226utc
Last frame out visually at 0744utc

I hope it helps.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp.



-----Original Message-----
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John & group

The following from my post this morning...

>In order to further 'probe' the T/A sunset / sunrise propagation extremes,
WE2XGR/2 will transmit
>during two periods tonight. The first period will be 2030 - 2330Z and then
again at 0630 - 0930Z.
>Reports, especially 'first in' and 'last out' would be appreciated. If
anyone would like the times
>periods extended please let me know.

Will be back on at 0630Z.

Jay





----- Original Message ----- 
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> Jay, LF,
>
> I wonder if the WSPR TX is off at the moment, I see no one else has
> decoded anything beyond 23:32 and the waterfall shows an abrubt ending
> of a trace shortly into the 23:34 period.
>
> Hope all is well!
>
> John
> 




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Dear Andy, LF Group,

Should be better now - I have been playing with antennas due to the problem 
that arose yesterday with the increased noise levels. Incidentally, I just 
saw your frequency jump from 503870 to 503885 Hz in the middle of the 1830 
transmission, but still gave 0dB and +3dB SNRs - on two frequencies!

After going out and about with a loop and portable RX, I am now pretty 
certain that the QRM is being radiated from the Brookmans Park transmitter 
site. I am not entirely certain, but there seems to be some correlation 
between the noise and the BBC R5 909kHz transmission audio, the antenna of 
which is about 500m from here. This was also the case before, but the QRM 
level has risen by about 20dB in the last day or so.

As an experiment, I have lashed up an EWE-like antenna, and with suitable 
tweaking this gives about 20dB of unidirectional null, which has brought me 
back to more or less where I was before, at least for signals coming from a 
westerly direction. It is too big to be a permanent fixture, and also 
interacts with the TX antenna. But I think similar or better results will be 
achievable by phasing a vertical antenna against the existing loops here.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU


----- Original Message ----- 
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> Why are you reporting such a low SNR, Jim ? 



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DE WD2XSH/17 tuned for WSPRs from G4JNT and G4WGT on or about 503.900 +/- 
100HZ.

Please advise your quitting times, else will let it run all night...

TNX

Dave


re: 
http://wsprnet.org/meptspots.php?mode=html&band=2190&limit=50&findcall=&findreporter=&sort=date




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> Dave
>
> If you believe this I have a bridge you might be interested in 
> purchasing...
>
> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2



No thanks, I have enuf worms for fishing...

Besides, I'm lazy and one run of wire outperforms my messy attempts @ 
loading the trees with HV wires that detune with humidity...

We installed a short flat top on the Sea Venture ( WJMV ) and I could tell 
you what the relative humidity was by the antenna current...
Some dielectric measuring device, eh??

10A into the ground radial common point is power wasted that could have been 
released into the air...
I'm talking about my crummy ground conductivity here ( silica sand ), not on 
a ship or @ a salt water location...

I think!!

What bridge?? An RF one??

Dave



----- Original Message ----- 
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>> No wasted power going into and out of the ground...
>
> Dave
>
> If you believe this I have a bridge you might be interested in 
> purchasing...
>
> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "dave.riley3" <dave.riley3@verizon.net>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>; <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>
> Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 11:53 AM
> Subject: LF: Re: LF Antennas - back to basics
>
>
>> Glad you asked, Andy...  Hope this one makes it past the spam filter...
>>
>> Back in the commercial AM transmitter biz days I buried miles of extra 
>> copper in to poor conductivity soil and gained little or nothing.
>> Then came Bill Ashloop who proved that a small transmit loop can do quite 
>> well.
>> http://www.wireless.org.uk/loopy.htm
>> http://www.w1tag.com/XESANT.htm
>>
>> So I surveryed the back yard which sits on very poor conductivity soil 
>> and therefore makes a loop appear to me more in free space and here are 
>> the advantages that I have found to date:
>>
>> No high voltage wire ends to start tree fires. No wasted power going into 
>> and out of the ground...
>>
>> Much less wire used in a LOOP transmit antenna. This #4 stranded HV wire 
>> rests inside of 100' sections of garden hose and is hoisted into trees 
>> with help of compound bow and pull line.
>>
>> No top loading, no radials, much less noise on RX, E-Z to tune and 
>> weather does not affect the tuning much such as from rain or snow, and it 
>> acts like a good vertical regardless of being much simpler.
>>
>> As for the CONS, well I just don't think of any...  Somebody??
>>
>> It works very well from 600M to 6M and is the only real antenna that I 
>> still have.
>>
>> Various feeds as noted below will let you tune it down to SAQ@17kc which 
>> I always hear and also makes for superb DX on 6M in 'some directions'.
>>
>> ref: http://www.radiocom.net/600M/LOOP109.jpg
>>
>> Wish I had a El-Nec printout but can't seem to fit this version in to it.
>>
>> QSL SURE VIA E-MAIL
>> 090226 0406   1 -29  0.0   0.503869  G4JNT IO90 23
>> 090226 0610   3 -29  0.0   0.503869  G4JNT IO90 23
>>
>> Have a quiet night and TNX from Dave @ WD2XSH/17
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Andy Talbot" <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>
>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 11:16 AM
>> Subject: LF: LF Antennas - back to basics
>>
>>
>>> Having now been encouraged by being decoded now by at least two US
>>> stations,  was wondering how much improvement in efficiency I could
>>> scrape out of my existing antenna.  It is a Marconi Tee, the vertical
>>> element consisting of three wires from the base tapering to 200mm
>>> spacing at the top.  There it is attached to the centre of a a
>>> capacity hat 15m long and 200mm wide made of three parallel wires.
>>>
>>> The ground system is a bit haphazard in my 7m wide by 12m long garden,
>>> with about 4 wires meeting at the base of the antenna meandering
>>> around the garden, starting off in different directions from teh base.
>>> They are all connected to substantial ground rods in heavy clay  at
>>> their far points, a with a few randomly spaced rods in between (I used
>>> several 1m lengths of 15mm water pipe as well as proper rods - there
>>> is probably about 9 or 10 rods in total, mostly 1 - 2m in length -
>>> can't remember that far back!   Some of the earth conductors were also
>>> bonded to the house wiring by a couple of substantial straps, and even
>>> inside the house I added more straps at strategic places.   I also
>>> ensured there was a good fat cable run directly under as much of the
>>> capacity hat as possible.   As a test, disconnecting the PME earthing
>>> bond and measuring the DC resistance between my total set of
>>> connections and the incoming conductor ground/neutral point, the value
>>> was a pretty consistent 3 ohms.  Haven't done this test for a few
>>> years, but at the last check it was still of this order.
>>>
>>> Back in the 73kHz days a number of (mostly big!) stations were
>>> surprised my signal was as strong as it was for probably the smallest
>>> antenna in use then; G3LDO put it down to the fact I had concentrated
>>> plenty of earthing wire to run directly under the top-hat.
>>>
>>> But, its all 14 years old,  still OK, but hopefully there's a wealth
>>> of experience now, and I wonder if there are obvious improvements that
>>> could be made:
>>>
>>> Firstly, bearing in mind there is no scope whatsoever to raise one end
>>> of the capacity hat which is defined by the apex of the house roof,
>>> and the other end would also need some major sugery to raise its heigh
>>> substantially, that only leaves the middle, ie the height of the
>>> actual radiator.    It wouldn't be too difficult to raise this to 10m
>>> or even more with a fibreglass pole, but will I be throwing away all
>>> the advantage by having the top-hat drooping down to 7m?
>>>
>>> Secondly, pictures of other peoples antennas aften show a substantial
>>> grounding plate immediately under and around the antenna base.  Just
>>> how far out is is worth going with a really substantial base.   I
>>> could cut more conductors into the ground; while the ground is still
>>> is still soggy in March may be a good time to do this.
>>>
>>> Any ideas please ...?
>>>
>>>
>>> Andy  G4JNT
>>> www.g4jnt.com
>>>
>>
> 



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Hello henny , Joe , LF ,
Nothing also !
73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

henny van elst a =E9crit :
> Hi Joe,
> nothing on the screen,
> henny cpm
> 73s
>
>  =20

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Thank-you Henny and others who were monitoring.
Unfortunately, as a result of another vile altercation
with Mother Nature (100 k winds/nasty snow storm) the
LF aerial is in a bad way!

Will report on progress as it is repaired.

73 and thanks
Joe VO1NA

On Thu, 19 Feb 2009, henny van elst wrote:

> Hi Joe and All,
> nil in the screen
> Henny cpm
> 73s
>


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HI Joe,lf

very good signal:

na27  00:30z
na28  02:30z
Almost a complete callsign

73

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Mal,

I have to disagree with that (at least at my location).
In 1998 (on 137kHz) I started with about 20 radials (15 to 50m long) =20
on the ground. After replacing this by 5 radials (15 to 35m long) =20
about 10cm in the ground and with a 2m earth stake at each end ground =20
loss was reduced by 30%.
At my location the antenna is surrounded by many (100's) trees.
Maybe the situation is different in the open.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

Quoting mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>:

> MF
> A couple of elevated insulated radials will out perform dozens of  =20
> buried radials, in fact 1 radial is vy effective, even insulated  =20
> radials lying above ground are also efficient.
> I use 2 insulated 1/4 wave elevated radials on 500 khz and several  =20
> lying on the ground for 137 khz.
> Using a loading coil in an elevated position on a vertical helps but =20
>  remember twice as many turns are required as opposed to base =20
> loading  hence more resistance, you might not be gaining as much =20
> advantage as  you think.
> de mal/g3kev
>



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Henny, Victor,
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2009/2/2 henny van elst <cpm@planet.nl>:
> Hi Warren,
> capture XGJ
> Henny cpm
> 73s
> Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden
> verzonden:
> xgj 02-02.jpg
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Good signal from XGJ last night from WD2XGJ on 137.7798kHz starting 
at 0300UTC. See attached.

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Howdy Mike,

Well, I am grateful for the 2 nulls as there is little or no activity in 
those directions thus making for some gain in the favored directions ( 
NE-SW ) and lowering noise from the sides...

As far as lowering the R of this loop, I plan soon to parallel the loop with 
a second one tuned in the near field, that outta run the 'R' down some 
more...

In the meanwhile an e-probe way out in the woods helps to cancel some 
residual noise...

In the LowFer days 160-180 khz. I found that the AC neutral was a decent 
enuf ground.

The idea of having above ground radials with an inductance in series with 
their common point makes for lower looses as well, but then again, one 
allows the local 'E' field to become part of the 'loop' while a complete 
loop shunts the local E fields and produces far less lethan voltages..

Gudday from Dave @ WD2XSH/17


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Dennison" <mike.dennison@ntlworld.com>
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> Dave Riley write about loop antennas:
>> As for the CONS, well I just don't think of any...  Somebody??
>>
> There are two 'cons' that I can think of. One is the weight of the
> low-loss wire required. This would cause a problem in my own case as
> local restrictions lead me to use a fairly fragile mast. The other is
> directivity in the form of two sharp nulls.
>
> I have used a loop in the past and for a short while held the 73kHz
> distance record using it. However, after some comparitive tests, I
> opted for a Marconi which at that frequency had similar 'gain' but
> was almost omnidirectional.
>
> In all other respects you are, of course, right.
>
> Mike, G3XDV
> ==========
> 



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Henny, Victor,
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2009/2/4 henny van elst <cpm@planet.nl>:
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Subject: Re: LF: Fldig Farq  mfsk16  beacon  503 Khz  pls try connect ?
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Is the entry on the uk500khz grabbers page  out of date ??

G ..

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Subject: Re: LF: Fldig Farq  mfsk16  beacon  503 Khz  pls try connect ?

>
> On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 21:26:52 +0000
> John P-G <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 19:02:42 -0000
>> "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
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>> >
>> > Follow on from last night
>> >
>> > Running Fldig in 'farq'  mode at 503 Khz centre frequency
>> >
>> > Beacon  set every 60  seconds
>> >
>>
>>
>> Have grabber showing 501 - 503.3
>>
>
> oops... just in case anyone hasn't saved the current URL...
>
> http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/gm4slv/gm4slv_500.jpg
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> J
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Dear Graham, Gary, LF Group,

Thanks for the QSOs this evening...

It seems MFSK16 works quite well in the presence of QRN, which is quite 
strong here tonight. There is always MFSK8 and MFSK4 to try as well.

The Flarq ARQ mode was quite interesting, although probably not what you 
want for a "traditional" QSO. I imagine it could work quite well when you 
actually want to transmit quite a large amount of text over a period of 
time, rather than "ur 599 wx not vy gud" etc. I set the packet length to 16, 
the smallest possible, with the idea of maximising the chances of receiving 
un-corrupted packets under weak signal conditions, at the expense of 
increased ARQ overheads. Timing out seems to be a problem; there are options 
to configure number of retries and timeout period, which it would probably 
be sensible to set to more than the default 5 retries / 60s timeout due to 
the nature of the QSB on 500kHz. Also, there does not seem to be a way of 
forcing a disconnection if you lose contact with the other station - I think 
this was causing trouble when I  was trying to "connect" G4WGT after G0NBD 
had timed out.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
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MessageHi LF,Peter,Dave and Lee.

Thank's for reports !

Transmitter run also this evening, WSPR mode dial 503,2 USB 1W ERP.

73 de Gus SM6BHZ




  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Hi Gus,

  WSPR Log received here.
  Available on WSPRnet too.

  73,
  Lee M0LMH IO93gx.

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<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4>Hi LF,Peter,Dave and=20
Lee.</FONT></EM></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4></FONT></EM></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4>Thank's for reports !</FONT></EM></STRONG></=
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<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4></FONT></EM></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4>Transmitter run also this evening, WSPR mode=
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503,2 USB 1W ERP.</FONT></EM></STRONG></DIV>
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<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4>73 de Gus SM6BHZ</FONT></EM></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4></FONT></EM></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=3D4></FONT></EM></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV     style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black=
"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dhudsonville@btinternet.com     href=3D"mailto:hudsonville@btint=
ernet.com">Lee Hudson</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacks=
heep.org     href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blac=
ksheep.org</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, February 02, 2009 4:3=
8=20
  AM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: SM6BHZ WSPR</DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN class=3D101233203-02022009>Hi=20
  Gus,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN     class=3D101233203-02022009></SP=
AN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN class=3D101233203-02022009>WSPR Log=
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  here.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN class=3D101233203-02022009>Availabl=
e on=20
  WSPRnet too.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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AN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN     class=3D101233203-02022009>73,<=
/SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN class=3D101233203-02022009>Lee M0LM=
H=20
  IO93gx.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN     class=3D101233203-02022009></SP=
AN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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nbsp;=20
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BHZ=20
  JO57 30<BR>0038&nbsp; -4&nbsp; 1.6&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.504498&nbsp; 0 SM6BHZ JO5=
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7=20
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7=20
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Hello Warren, LF!
I saw XGJ signal this morning.

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Hello Warren, LF!<br>I saw XGJ signal this morning.<br><br>Lubos, OK2BVG, JN=
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Hi Gary, very interesting, especially the correlation of the signal strength=
s which seems moderately high.
for those wishing to do similar processing of WSPR data, I have written an E=
xcel macro that enables you to extract data from the web database very quick=
ly, and also converts the text based time date fields to a usable (ie plotta=
ble) format.
http://www.dc2light.co.uk/getwspr1.6.xls
no warranty offered or implied.
it doesn't seem to work under openoffice either..
Hope this is of use
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Gary - G4WGT=20
  To: LF -RSGB LF Group=20
  Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 4:38 PM
  Subject: LF: 500khz wspr spreadsheet


  Hi LF,

  =20

  I have created a MS Excel spread-sheet for my WSPRing last night. I have u=
ploaded it to my website as it is too large for the LF group forum. On three=
 worksheets there is a graph in marker format, a graph in line format & the=20=
data from the five stations who reported to the WSPR Spots page.

  =20

  It is my first attempt at an Excel chart, please let me know what you thin=
k. It can be downloaded at :-

  =20

  http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/WSPR01.xls

  =20

  73,

  =20

  Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi Gary, very interesting, especially the=20
correlation of the signal strengths which seems moderately high.</FONT></DIV=
>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>for those wishing to do similar processing=20=
of WSPR=20
data, I have written an Excel macro that enables you to extract data from th=
e=20
web database very quickly, and also converts the text based time date fields=
 to=20
a usable (ie plottable) format.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A   href=3D"http://www.dc2light.co.uk/getw=
spr1.6.xls">http://www.dc2light.co.uk/getwspr1.6.xls</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>no warranty offered or implied.</FONT></DIV=
>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>it doesn't seem to work under openoffice=20
either..</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hope this is of use</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, February 25, 2009=20=
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  <P class=3DMsoNormal><B><FONT face=3DArial size=3D3><SPAN     style=3D"FON=
T-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I have created=20
  a MS Excel spread-sheet for my WSPRing last night. I have uploaded it to m=
y=20
  website as it is too large for the LF group forum. On three worksheets the=
re=20
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Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2009 19:02:03 +0100
From: henny van elst <cpm@planet.nl>
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Hi All,
capture agc
henny cpm
73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
AGC 07-02.jpg

Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld.

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi All,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>capture agc</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>henny cpm</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>73s</FONT></DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het volgende 
bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:<BR>AGC 07-02.jpg<BR><BR>Opmerking: 
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Subject: Re: LF: Re: wspr and the over clocked sound card .. whats the  final position ??
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Jordan


The card is a PCI  ,   M - Audio Delta 4

running with windows  xp-pro

There are a selection of clock speeds .. but  it seems that when a 
application runs . it defaults to the 44k setting .. but  for all other 
software .. no problem .. works very well

G ..

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Subject: LF: Re: wspr and the over clocked sound card .. whats the  final 
position ??

>
> Is this for an on-board sound card, and if not, what type of bus is it 
> on..?
> 73...Jordan....
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
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> Subject: LF: wspr and the over clocked sound card .. whats the final
> position ??
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>
>>
>> wspr and the over clocked sound card
>>
>> Was there a resolve to the  problem of the  short wspr  tx produced by a
>> soundcard that was running  slightly  faster than it  should
>>
>> 1.5 seconds short .....  about 1 %
>>
>> , resulting in no decodes for strong signals .. presumably by providing
>> too many sync's
>>
>> There is no way of changing the  sample  rate of the  card .. there is a
>> option in the  driver . but  as soon as wspr  runs . the  card reverts to
>> the  normal 44 khz setting
>>
>> No problems with any of the  other  systems as the  card can be 
>> calibrated
>> (though not  needed)
>>
>> any  fixes or ideas ??
>>
>> tnx
>>
>> Graham ..
>>
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Hi Warren,lf

traces at 4:30z

73

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Hello Jeff and group,
maybe someone can pass this message on to F6BWO since I don't have his 
email address (if he has internet access):

I was in contact with Jeff this morning at DK4U, and the QRM was 
surprisingly low. F6BWO was 539 here (at DK4U).
The antenna impedance was very ununual too, and after half an hour, the 
PA ran wild and finally the supply's current monitor tripped.
Not sure what exactly happened but looks like after many years of 
reliable operation, one of the MOSFETs has blown.
Possibly the gate bias control didn't like the -2°C shack temperature ....
Hope to be QRV on LF again soon, with a more endurable FET than the 
IRF540 (possibly a HUF75343, giving one or two dB's more output).

73,
   Wolf  DL4YHF .


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AA1A QSW UK WSPR QRSS window 503.900 +/-

Last night saw strong CW beacon on 503.950 separated by long dash but was 
not able to copy ID by ear...

TNX


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rik Strobbe" <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
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Subject: Re: LF: Ultra pico-low-power WSPR beacon


Andy,

I am monitoring and uploading eventual spots.
I will leave the RX / PC on overnight, so whoever want to give it a try ...

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

Quoting Andy Talbot <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>:

> Just for a bit of novelty, I'm running probably the lowest power WSPR
> signal seen on this band.   Frequency 503.87kHz (set the usual USB
> carrier 502.4) RF power is -2dBm, so ERP is in the region of -27dBm.
> Duty cycle 33% (well, actually, 34.375%, but who's counting)
>
> Judging by some of the WSPR reports on my signal when runing 100 Watts
> in the past, a few local stations may just be able to decode it.
>
> As for PN sequences, I admited defeat and just wrote down a series of
> ones and zeros then played with them till they looked right and had
> the correct numbers of each in a  32 bit pattern (which is why 33% and
> 20% duty cycle values aren't spot-on)
> On the assumptuin that its not random at all, why try to generate
> other than by eye?
>
> Interesting to know Joe had a similar headache over this issue, Scott.
>  Clearly it isn't a 'mountain out of a molehill' problem after all.
>
>
> Andy  G4JNT
> www.g4jnt.com
>
>



Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm




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Hello to our UK Friends

I was wondering if there is someone over there that has a real indepth 
understanding of how the UK Notice of Variation (NOV) system works with 
respect to amateurs seeking to operate on none amateurs bands for 
experiments.

We need considerable details of the law and regulation involved. 
Particularly how does the system work in a legal sense.

If you can help please contact me off list.

Regards,
Scott
VE7TIL





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Hello Henny , Victor , Joe ,
Good copy for you !
For me , just a small trace ( see capture )
73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

henny van elst a =E9crit :
> Hi Joe,Lf,
> The complete call Joe,
> Henny CPM
> Best 73s
> Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzond=
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I like "To Russia with love" ! <BR>
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Victor,
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Having now been encouraged by being decoded now by at least two US
stations,  was wondering how much improvement in efficiency I could
scrape out of my existing antenna.  It is a Marconi Tee, the vertical
element consisting of three wires from the base tapering to 200mm
spacing at the top.  There it is attached to the centre of a a
capacity hat 15m long and 200mm wide made of three parallel wires.

The ground system is a bit haphazard in my 7m wide by 12m long garden,
with about 4 wires meeting at the base of the antenna meandering
around the garden, starting off in different directions from teh base.
 They are all connected to substantial ground rods in heavy clay  at
their far points, a with a few randomly spaced rods in between (I used
several 1m lengths of 15mm water pipe as well as proper rods - there
is probably about 9 or 10 rods in total, mostly 1 - 2m in length -
can't remember that far back!   Some of the earth conductors were also
bonded to the house wiring by a couple of substantial straps, and even
inside the house I added more straps at strategic places.   I also
ensured there was a good fat cable run directly under as much of the
capacity hat as possible.   As a test, disconnecting the PME earthing
bond and measuring the DC resistance between my total set of
connections and the incoming conductor ground/neutral point, the value
was a pretty consistent 3 ohms.  Haven't done this test for a few
years, but at the last check it was still of this order.

Back in the 73kHz days a number of (mostly big!) stations were
surprised my signal was as strong as it was for probably the smallest
antenna in use then; G3LDO put it down to the fact I had concentrated
plenty of earthing wire to run directly under the top-hat.

But, its all 14 years old,  still OK, but hopefully there's a wealth
of experience now, and I wonder if there are obvious improvements that
could be made:

Firstly, bearing in mind there is no scope whatsoever to raise one end
of the capacity hat which is defined by the apex of the house roof,
and the other end would also need some major sugery to raise its heigh
substantially, that only leaves the middle, ie the height of the
actual radiator.    It wouldn't be too difficult to raise this to 10m
or even more with a fibreglass pole, but will I be throwing away all
the advantage by having the top-hat drooping down to 7m?

Secondly, pictures of other peoples antennas aften show a substantial
grounding plate immediately under and around the antenna base.  Just
how far out is is worth going with a really substantial base.   I
could cut more conductors into the ground; while the ground is still
is still soggy in March may be a good time to do this.

Any ideas please ...?


Andy  G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com


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FLdigi also works well http://www.w1hkj.com/Fldigi.html .

Jay

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Here Stream and Multipsk are working side by side for almost 1 hour  
now (fingers crossed).
However no copy so far.
I leave them running overnight.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

Quoting jrusgrove@comcast.net:

> Gary
>
> The program keeps running okay here.
>
> A couple other points though. Unlike Multipsk one has to specify the
> lower edge of the bandpass - not the middle. This is 120 Hz below the
> center. In other words if 800 Hz is your received audio center
> frequency set the frequency to 680. Maybe there is a way to set it to
> the center...if so I havn't found it.
>
> The bigger problem is with other applications running at the same time.
> Just opened an internet browser and copy went to garbage. MultiPSK kept
> decoding properly.
>
> Jay
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
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>
>
>> Jay, LF,
>>
>> I also downloaded Stream & it runs for about 30 seconds & freezes.
>>
>> 73 - Gary - G4WGT.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of
>> jrusgrove@comcast.net
>> Sent: 07 February 2009 21:42
>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>> Subject: Re: LF: WE2XGR/2 in MFSK8
>>
>> Rik and group
>>
>> Confirming start at 2130Z.
>>
>> Downloaded Stream earlier and was unable to get it to work. MultiPSK works
>> fine. May very well be
>> cockpit error. Will  look into it.
>>
>> Jay
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rik Strobbe"   
>> <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 4:28 PM
>> Subject: Re: LF: WE2XGR/2 in MFSK8
>>
>>
>>> Jay,
>>>
>>> It just downloaded / installed stream (IZ8BLY).
>>> RX / PC is on 508.5 overnight
>>>
>>> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
>>>
>>> Quoting jrusgrove@comcast.net:
>>>
>>>> WE2XGR/2 will be transmitting in MFSK8 mode on 508.5 kHz from 2130Z -
>>>> 0000Z tonight. Reports are appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> When using MultiPSK as the decoder be advised that the program has been
>>>> known to occasionally go on 'walkabout' after loss of signal. Stopping
>>>> and restarting the decoder seems to solve the problem.
>>>>
>>>> Jay  W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Hi Rik, LF,

Thanks for your report.

Very interesting the difference in QSB depth, just had a look at the WSPR
spots & see the levels reported there. The QSB is a lot deeper with G3XVL
-10  to -24 & quite shallow with GM4ISM -22 to -28.

I will keep an eye on the reports for tonight & see if the QSB changes at
all.

BTW, the antenna has been down to 9 metres since the storms here last month
& the capacity hat top load is looking a very sorry state. I have plans to
replace the top hat with a stronger version & slightly larger.

73

Gary - G4WGT.


-----Original Message-----
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Gary,

solid copy, -13dB SNR here with little QSB
G4JNT is -5 / +5dB SNR, remarkable more QSB.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

Quoting Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>:

> Hi LF,
>
>
>
> Running WSPR beacon tonight for a while.
>
>
>
> Frequency 503.915KHz - 2 mW ERP (3dBm)
>
>
>
> 73,
>
>
>
> Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.
>
>
>
>



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A couple of elevated insulated radials will out perform dozens of buried rad=
ials, in fact 1 radial is vy effective, even insulated radials lying above g=
round are also efficient.=20
I use 2 insulated 1/4 wave elevated radials on 500 khz and several lying on=20=
the ground for 137 khz.
Using a loading coil in an elevated position on a vertical helps but remembe=
r twice as many turns are required as opposed to base loading hence more res=
istance, you might not be gaining as much advantage as you think.
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Subject: LF: Dual Beacon stopped 2230 - FLDIGI    ARQ  MFSK16 , 503 Khz 
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Thanks for all reports over the night .  Dual beacon stopped
Hope was of use , mfsk16 may be used in non linear systems
so looks like a good mode for 500 ?

Ive re configured to  normal working - rx now  active

Station now in FLDIGI  ARQ mode  running mfsk16  at 503 Khz cent frequency

Pls try connect , mycall set to  G0NBD

will leave active till round 2400 hrs

Tnx G..



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Subject: LF: If anyones about , MT63  x 500 Hz and Olivia 500 x 8 running 
now 1935 hrs

>
> As a follow on to some tests  with Gary  , with Olivia  500 x 8 and the
> original MT63 system
>
> Running  two  data streams now at about 10  watts per mode , carrier
> frequencies are :-
>
> mt63   501.5 to  502 Khz
>
> olivia 500x8  503 Khz +/-  250 Hz
>
> The book says mt63 should not print as well as olivia .....
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> tnx - G ..
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Victor, Lubos, Henny,

    Thank you for the reports and captures!
XGJ is at full power once again.
-- 
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
                WE2XEB/2
                WE2XGR/1




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Hi Warren ,

The storm passed , the calm one returned ,
I raised 127 km/h in my pylon 15 m in height !
No damage here ( the grabber functioned
during the night )

73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

Warren Ziegler a =E9crit :
> Bonsoir Jean-Pierre,
>
>     I hope the wind does not damage your antenna!
> Thank you for the report!
> --
> 73 Warren K2ORS
>                 WD2XGJ
>                 WD2XSH/23
>                 WE2XEB/2
>                 WE2XGR/1
>
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>
>
> On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 6:27 PM, "Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 (F1AFJ)"
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>  =20
>> Hi Warren ,
>>
>> Hol=E0 ! very very stong signal now !!!!!
>> Here the storm is very violent (110km/h)
>> in this moment
>>
>> 73 qro Jean-Pierre
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Hello Warren,LF
capture XGJ
Henny CPM
73S
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
XGJ 12-02.jpg

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hello Warren,LF</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>capture XGJ</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Henny CPM</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>73S</FONT></DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het volgende 
bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:<BR>XGJ 12-02.jpg<BR><BR>Opmerking: 
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Hi all,
The spurious calls generated here are as a result of a wideband birdie that 
wanders through the 500KHz band, probably a switchmode PSU
Not all the bad decodes get uploaded, so there would appear to be some 
filtering of what is uploaded
What the software needs is a checkbox after each decode, so that the user 
can mark bad messages, the system could them automatically remove those from 
the database

I have also been analysing the spots by graphing signal strength, and 
comparing for example my reception of SM5BHZ with that of other stations.
(for anyone interested I have used an Excel macro to download specified 
spots from the web database, and put them in a formal easy to use with the 
graph wizard)

I am coming to the conclusion that the single reported signal level is 
barely adequate on 500KHz, an pretty useless when the QSB is fast.. what 
WSPR software needs for studying propagation is perhaps 10 or 20  sig level 
measurements per period, just uploaded to the database for future study.  I 
have suggested this to Joe, but I think he has higher priorities and no-one 
else has requested anything similar

Regards
Mark GM4ISM
www.dc2light.co.uk


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Andy Talbot" <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 10:11 PM
Subject: LF: WSPR Spots


> According to the WSPR Spot database, there is some "interesting" DX
> being received chez GM4ISM.
> Is there some carrier or coherent  QRM present to generate these false 
> hits?
>
> Just got a WSPR generating routine running on a 16F628 PIC with AD9852
> DDS combination.
> At the moment it only operates at 100% duty cycle, but I'm Looking at
> PN sequences for randomised transmission slots with 20/25/33% Duty
> cycle operation.
>
> Andy  G4JNT
> www.g4jnt.com
>
>


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WE2XGR/2 will be transmitting in PSKFEC31 mode tonight on 508.5 kHz starting 
2130Z and will continue until at least 0100Z and perhaps beyond.

PSKFEC31 (PSK31 with forward error correction) can be decoded with the 
colorful program MultiPSK - available at http://www.f6cte.free.fr/ . 
Sunglasses are recommended for the first time user. As far as I know there 
are no other programs that can decode this mode. If anyone has info to the 
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Some background info on PSKFEC31 and other digital modes as well as tests 
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.

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Since 9:00, I'm seeing 10s dashes with 2 s breaks, freq 136290Hz +- some dri=
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UNID QRSS on 503.950 now, too much QRN


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Jay, LF.

I never thought I'd be able to receive a signal on 500kHz from so far away;
this is astonishing! I am in a fairly buit up area and it's really very
noisy, but I decided to monitor the frequency anyway....

The antenna is an inverted L for top band up at about 8m above ground level,
also trapped for 40 and 80m so hardly ideal. RX is an FT990, no filters, no
preamps etc, just straight to PC.

First Decode at 2154, similar to Andy's but then after a short gap
reasonably reliable all evening.

Cheers Jay,

de Mike G7AQA IO93DT.


2154 -30 -0.3   0.508510  0 WE2XGR FN31 57
2202 -30 -0.5   0.508510  0 WE2XGR FN31 57
2206 -30 -0.4   0.508510  0 WE2XGR FN31 57
2208 -30 -0.3   0.508510  0 WE2XGR FN31 57
2222 -30 -0.3   0.508510  0 WE2XGR FN31 57
2224 -28 -0.3   0.508510  0 WE2XGR FN31 57
2228 -27 -0.2   0.508510  0 WE2XGR FN31 57
2232 -29 -0.3   0.508510  0 WE2XGR FN31 57
2234 -30 -0.5   0.508510  0 WE2XGR FN31 57
2240 -27 -0.3   0.508510  0 WE2XGR FN31 57
2242 -27 -0.3   0.508510  0 WE2XGR FN31 57
2244 -24 -0.3   0.508510  0 WE2XGR FN31 57
2246 -25 -0.3   0.508510  0 WE2XGR FN31 57
2248 -30 -0.5   0.508510  0 WE2XGR FN31 57
2250 -29 -0.4   0.508510  0 WE2XGR FN31 57
2252 -21 -0.4   0.508510  0 WE2XGR FN31 57
2254 -18 -0.3   0.508510  0 WE2XGR FN31 57
2256 -21 -0.3   0.508510  0 WE2XGR FN31 57
2258 -24 -0.3   0.508510  0 WE2XGR FN31 57
2300 -23 -0.3   0.508510  0 WE2XGR FN31 57
2302 -25 -0.3   0.508510  0 WE2XGR FN31 57
2304 -22 -0.3   0.508510  0 WE2XGR FN31 57
2306 -20 -0.5   0.508510  0 WE2XGR FN31 57
2308 -25 -0.3   0.508510  0 WE2XGR FN31 57
2310 -22 -0.4   0.508510  0 WE2XGR FN31 57
2312 -23 -0.4   0.508510  0 WE2XGR FN31 57
2314 -21 -0.4   0.508510  0 WE2XGR FN31 57
2316 -24 -0.4   0.508510  0 WE2XGR FN31 57
2318 -20 -0.4   0.508510  0 WE2XGR FN31 57
2320 -26 -0.3   0.508510  0 WE2XGR FN31 57
2322 -24 -0.3   0.508510  0 WE2XGR FN31 57
2324 -22 -0.4   0.508510  0 WE2XGR FN31 57
2326 -20 -0.4   0.508510  0 WE2XGR FN31 57
2328 -25 -0.4   0.508510  0 WE2XGR FN31 57
2330 -27 -0.3   0.508510  0 WE2XGR FN31 57
2332 -29 -0.3   0.508510  0 WE2XGR FN31 57
2334 -27 -0.3   0.508510  0 WE2XGR FN31 57
2338 -27 -0.4   0.508510  0 WE2XGR FN31 57

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Subject: LF: WE2XGR/2 in WSPR mode

WE2XGR/2 will be in WSPR mode tonight starting 2030Z on dial frequency
507.000 kHz. The start time has been moved up as las Tuesday's session
produced copy as soon as the transmitter was fired up at 2200Z. It will be
interesting to see how early stations are able to receive the beacon. Sunset
here today is 2206Z.

In years past CT1DRP on 137 kHz was received (QRSS30) here as early as 2015Z
- more than an hour before sunset.

Reports and 'spots' uploaded to the WSPR database are appreciated.

Jay  W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2




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Heavy snow (by our standards!) in S England, so took the opportunity
to not bother going into work and to carry on logging.

The signal has been pretty consistent at -20dB +/- 4  since switch-on
at 0640, and has now risen by about 10dB S/N at 0720.  There is now
local QRM, and that suggests the signal strength increase is actually
greater still - certainly appears so from the SpectraVue waterfall
plot.

Andy  G4JNT
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Dear Andy, LF Group,

It seems they are being automatically re-issued - the letter with mine says 
"new NoVs are being issued to existing holders". I did not have to re-apply.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU

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Are they being automatically extended, or is reapplication necessary ?

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Dear Jay, LF Group,

Would it be possible to QSY to slightly above last night's frequency - say 
to 508.52 or 508.53kHz RF? You would then be clear of the " intermittent CW" 
noise I am getting here on 508.50kHz.

As before, I have two RXs running here, on 502.4kHz and 507kHz "dial 
frequency".

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU

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> Confirming start of WSPR transmission 2030Z on 507.000 dial frequency.
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> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
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Hi, Jay, LF,

Last decode here this moring was at 0754, just as daylight broke...
0742 -20 -0.5   0.508510  0 WE2XGR FN31 57
0744 -21 -0.4   0.508510  0 WE2XGR FN31 57
0746 -29 -0.4   0.508510  0 WE2XGR FN31 57
0748 -30 -0.5   0.508510  0 WE2XGR FN31 57
0750 -23 -0.5   0.508510  0 WE2XGR FN31 57
0752 -26 -0.5   0.508510  0 WE2XGR FN31 57
0754 -29 -0.4   0.508510  0 WE2XGR FN31 57

Thanks for being on, I can certainly say I've had my eyes opened as to what
is possible.

Cheers, Mike G7AQA.

-----Original Message-----
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jrusgrove@comcast.net
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Subject: LF: WE2XGR/2 in WSPR mode

WE2XGR/2 will be in WSPR mode tonight starting 2030Z on dial frequency
507.000 kHz. The start time has been moved up as las Tuesday's session
produced copy as soon as the transmitter was fired up at 2200Z. It will be
interesting to see how early stations are able to receive the beacon. Sunset
here today is 2206Z.

In years past CT1DRP on 137 kHz was received (QRSS30) here as early as 2015Z
- more than an hour before sunset.

Reports and 'spots' uploaded to the WSPR database are appreciated.

Jay  W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2




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Willem,
  Thank you for the capture!
-- 
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
                WE2XEB/2
                WE2XGR/1





2009/2/3 Willem De Roode <wdr@casema.nl>:
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> 73s pa3ego
>
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Hi Rik, LF,

Yes I guessed that possibly some gaps in any reporting may be due to other
activities at the remote station. You probably saw Chris G3XVL had an XP
auto update & PC re-boot. The more distant stations could have had severe
QSB.

Well , I did say it was my first attempt at an Excel chart & it did work for
me & raised some interest & valid feedback. I need to refine the chart with
labels & descriptions if required. I believe we do need some form charting
or tabulation of the reports even if each operator only processes their own.

Regards,

Gary - G4WGT.

-----Original Message-----
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Gary,

the gap in my data is due to the fact that I was using the RX /  
antenna otherwise.
Just one remark regarding the data: keep in mind that it is SNR (not  
signal strength). I have my LF antenna at a rather remote location in  
the garden. Nearest houses, street light and other possible QRM  
sources are at least 50m from the antenna and at my own house most  
local QRM sources have been eliminated. This might explain the  
relative "good" values.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

Quoting Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>:

> Hi LF,
>
>
>
> I have created a MS Excel spread-sheet for my WSPRing last night. I have
> uploaded it to my website as it is too large for the LF group forum. On
> three worksheets there is a graph in marker format, a graph in line format
&
> the data from the five stations who reported to the WSPR Spots page.
>
>
>
> It is my first attempt at an Excel chart, please let me know what you
think.
> It can be downloaded at :-
>
>
>
> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/WSPR01.xls
>
>
>
> 73,
>
>
>
> Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.
>
>
>
>



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Dear Andy, Dave, LF Group,

My experience is that improvements to the ground system soon reach a point 
of diminishing returns where the ground connection losses are small compared 
to other losses - I would expect you have reached that point already. In my 
case, literally filling the garden with wire made at best about 0.5dB 
improvement by reducing loss resistance, compared to having about 5 ground 
rods spaced a few metres around the downlead and loading coil. However 
increasing the height of the top loading, even if only in the middle, does 
lead to substantial improvements. One benefit of doing this is that the 
effective height and radiation resistance is increased by increasing the 
average height of the antenna wires. If you are in a fairly built-up 
environment, the improvement is probably more than you would expect from 
calculating the effective height from the dimensions of the antenna itself, 
because increasing the physical height of the antenna puts it further above, 
or nearer the top of, screening buildings and trees etc., that are 
surrounding it. Also, moving the antenna further above loss-causing objects 
leads to a modest reduction in the loss resistance. In my case, with an 
inverted L about 10m high at the ends and sagging to 9m in the middle, 
propping up the middle of the span with a fibreglass pole to about 14m 
increases ERP by 3 - 4dB.

As to possible advantages and disadvantages of a loop compared to a 
vertical, in general the loop ought to benefit from lower dielectric losses 
due to the generally lower voltages. The directional pattern is often 
helpful on receive. But the figure-of-eight directional pattern could also 
be a drawback for a transmit antenna where it isn't practical to rotate the 
antenna to avoid having nulls in awkward directions. Also, one has to think 
about the scale. AA1A's loop is quite big in overall dimensions compared to 
G4JNT's vertical. The radiation resistance of a loop is proportional to the 
square of the area, which is proportional to the square of the linear 
dimensions of the loop conductor - so when scaling down a loop, one would 
expect Rrad to reduce much faster than Rloss due to reduction in perimeter, 
and so efficiency of relatively small loops to be poor.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU

----- Original Message ----- 
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Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 4:16 PM
Subject: LF: LF Antennas - back to basics


> Firstly, bearing in mind there is no scope whatsoever to raise one end
> of the capacity hat which is defined by the apex of the house roof,
> and the other end would also need some major sugery to raise its heigh
> substantially, that only leaves the middle, ie the height of the
> actual radiator.    It wouldn't be too difficult to raise this to 10m
> or even more with a fibreglass pole, but will I be throwing away all
> the advantage by having the top-hat drooping down to 7m?
>
> Secondly, pictures of other peoples antennas aften show a substantial
> grounding plate immediately under and around the antenna base.  Just
> how far out is is worth going with a really substantial base.   I
> could cut more conductors into the ground; while the ground is still
> is still soggy in March may be a good time to do this.
>
> Any ideas please ...?
>
>
> Andy  G4JNT
> www.g4jnt.com
> 



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Hello Waren, LF!
I saw strong  XGJ signal around midnight UT. I have been testing my new rece=
iving antenna (AMRAD by Frank Gentges, K0BRA), so I am lookin forward for mo=
rning XGJ signal.

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Hello Waren, LF!<br>I saw strong&nbsp; XGJ signal around midnight UT. I have=
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Hi All,
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henny cpm
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Hi Warren.lf,

just traces xgj 7:30z

73

Victor

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Hi Henny,
Thanks for the screenshot!

73
Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV


> Hi Lf,
> capture AGC-WPF
> Henny cpm
> 73s
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Graham, LF,

Initial results show that MFSK16 is about 10dB over Olivia on the SpecLab
display, also were the Olivia is running a 90pc print (losses caused by
noise & static crashes) the MFSK16 is 100pc copy.

Gary - G4WGT.

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CHANGE<2100 hrs>

Mode change

>From the initial reports it looks like the MT63 system is not as robust at 
the olivia 500 x 8

I will  change the MT63  mode to  MFSK16  , at  1000 Hz audio cent , ( 502 
Khz  rf cent )

As mfsk will pass via a non linear system , this may be of wider interest

Change time  >>> 2100 Hrs gmt <<<<

tnx - G ..



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running now 1935 hrs

>
> Nb . no rx cycle
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
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> now 1935 hrs
>
>>
>> As a follow on to some tests  with Gary  , with Olivia  500 x 8 and the
>> original MT63 system
>>
>> Running  two  data streams now at about 10  watts per mode , carrier
>> frequencies are :-
>>
>> mt63   501.5 to  502 Khz
>>
>> olivia 500x8  503 Khz +/-  250 Hz
>>
>> The book says mt63 should not print as well as olivia .....
>>
>> tnx - G ..
>>
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Dear Graham, LF Group,

Only occasional recognisable bits of text here - none of the beacon 
transmissions were strong enough to copy in this mode.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU

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>
>
> Fldig  Farq beacon  bpsk125  503 Khz
> running till  2400 , psl try connect
>
> tnx - G ..
> 



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Not unsurprisingly, nothing heard during the night at the -2dBm RF
power level.
Just put a 3W amp into circuit to test it - which will explain the few
hits now being seen with the 37dB power increase.

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2009/2/21 Andy Talbot <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>:
> Now running 100% duty cycle 503.870kHz
>
> BTW.  the power level sent within the message is intended to be
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On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 21:26:52 +0000
John P-G <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 19:02:42 -0000
> "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Follow on from last night 
> > 
> > Running Fldig in 'farq'  mode at 503 Khz centre frequency 
> > 
> > Beacon  set every 60  seconds 
> > 
> 
> 
> Have grabber showing 501 - 503.3
> 

oops... just in case anyone hasn't saved the current URL...

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Look like a squadron of Peregrine falcons in a stoop dive....

 

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Hello LF!
I saw something interesting on 137.777. Is is LX effect?

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Hello Andrey , LF
Good copy of your signal last night on my grabber ( antenna in USA! )
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Hi Warren,
capture xgj
henny cpm
73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
XGJ 17-02.jpg

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Warren,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>capture xgj</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>henny cpm</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>73s</FONT></DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het volgende 
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Hi LF,

 

I have created a MS Excel spread-sheet for my WSPRing last night. I have
uploaded it to my website as it is too large for the LF group forum. On
three worksheets there is a graph in marker format, a graph in line format &
the data from the five stations who reported to the WSPR Spots page.

 

It is my first attempt at an Excel chart, please let me know what you think.
It can be downloaded at :-

 

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/WSPR01.xls

 

73,

 

Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.

 


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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>I have created a MS Excel sprea=
d-sheet for
my WSPRing last night. I have uploaded it to my website as it is too large f=
or
the LF group forum. On three worksheets there is a graph in marker format, a
graph in line format &amp; the data from the five stations who reported to t=
he
WSPR Spots page.<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
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a><o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

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Jim,

Yes I can confirm this :-

>>>>
increasing the height of the top loading, even if only in the middle, does
lead to substantial improvements. One benefit of doing this is that the
effective height and radiation resistance is increased by increasing the
average height of the antenna wires
>>>>

I made a substantial improvement to the  original inverted L system,  35 
feet x 40 foot  top , by adding a loading  coil to the  top of the  vertical 
section (actually  the 40 feet  of top wire wound round a coke bottle) and 
providing 2 x 40 ft capacity wires 6 feet apart back to the  house.

Earth is everything that conducts in the garden bonded along with a couple 
of 12 ft alloy scaffold poles sunk in,  to one point   along with a couple 
of 50 foot  ground lying wires as well, feed is via a auto transformer and a 
variometer in series , I did use a parallel tuner but this flashes over 
above 50 watts ,

A bonus , is the  system now works well on 1.8 and  3.5  Mhz as well . but 
with a very high Q , 20 Khz  qsy on 3.8 is enough for the pa to trip on vswr

Notably, Gary, has modelled  his array , similar 35 ft vertical section, 
using mmana  and he favours the  loading coil to be placed mid section, the 
offset capacity section of my array dose produce a slight slew of the 
pattern, but  nothing too radical

tnx- G ..

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From: "James Moritz" <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 11:43 PM
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Subject: LF: Re: LF Antennas - back to basics

>
> Dear Andy, Dave, LF Group,
>
> My experience is that improvements to the ground system soon reach a point
> of diminishing returns where the ground connection losses are small 
> compared
> to other losses - I would expect you have reached that point already. In 
> my
> case, literally filling the garden with wire made at best about 0.5dB
> improvement by reducing loss resistance, compared to having about 5 ground
> rods spaced a few metres around the downlead and loading coil. However
> increasing the height of the top loading, even if only in the middle, does
> lead to substantial improvements. One benefit of doing this is that the
> effective height and radiation resistance is increased by increasing the
> average height of the antenna wires. If you are in a fairly built-up
> environment, the improvement is probably more than you would expect from
> calculating the effective height from the dimensions of the antenna 
> itself,
> because increasing the physical height of the antenna puts it further 
> above,
> or nearer the top of, screening buildings and trees etc., that are
> surrounding it. Also, moving the antenna further above loss-causing 
> objects
> leads to a modest reduction in the loss resistance. In my case, with an
> inverted L about 10m high at the ends and sagging to 9m in the middle,
> propping up the middle of the span with a fibreglass pole to about 14m
> increases ERP by 3 - 4dB.
>
> As to possible advantages and disadvantages of a loop compared to a
> vertical, in general the loop ought to benefit from lower dielectric 
> losses
> due to the generally lower voltages. The directional pattern is often
> helpful on receive. But the figure-of-eight directional pattern could also
> be a drawback for a transmit antenna where it isn't practical to rotate 
> the
> antenna to avoid having nulls in awkward directions. Also, one has to 
> think
> about the scale. AA1A's loop is quite big in overall dimensions compared 
> to
> G4JNT's vertical. The radiation resistance of a loop is proportional to 
> the
> square of the area, which is proportional to the square of the linear
> dimensions of the loop conductor - so when scaling down a loop, one would
> expect Rrad to reduce much faster than Rloss due to reduction in 
> perimeter,
> and so efficiency of relatively small loops to be poor.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Andy Talbot" <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 4:16 PM
> Subject: LF: LF Antennas - back to basics
>
>
>> Firstly, bearing in mind there is no scope whatsoever to raise one end
>> of the capacity hat which is defined by the apex of the house roof,
>> and the other end would also need some major sugery to raise its heigh
>> substantially, that only leaves the middle, ie the height of the
>> actual radiator.    It wouldn't be too difficult to raise this to 10m
>> or even more with a fibreglass pole, but will I be throwing away all
>> the advantage by having the top-hat drooping down to 7m?
>>
>> Secondly, pictures of other peoples antennas aften show a substantial
>> grounding plate immediately under and around the antenna base.  Just
>> how far out is is worth going with a really substantial base.   I
>> could cut more conductors into the ground; while the ground is still
>> is still soggy in March may be a good time to do this.
>>
>> Any ideas please ...?
>>
>>
>> Andy  G4JNT
>> www.g4jnt.com
>>
>
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Looks like a cw beacon .. but hf of that frequency .. don't  see any wspr 
activity ?

G ..

http://www.wireless.org.uk/grab/

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber1.html

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>
> Am seeing activity on 503.900 but no WSPR decodes...
>
> Just widely separated dashes of about 8 seconds length...
>
> QRU
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Andy Talbot" <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>
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>
>
>> According to the WSPR Spot database, there is some "interesting" DX
>> being received chez GM4ISM.
>> Is there some carrier or coherent  QRM present to generate these false
>> hits?
>>
>> Just got a WSPR generating routine running on a 16F628 PIC with AD9852
>> DDS combination.
>> At the moment it only operates at 100% duty cycle, but I'm Looking at
>> PN sequences for randomised transmission slots with 20/25/33% Duty
>> cycle operation.
>>
>> Andy  G4JNT
>> www.g4jnt.com
>>
>
>
>



>
> No virus found in this incoming message.
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On 23/02/2009 at 22:42 Johan H. Bodin wrote:

>Andy Talbot wrote:
>
>> By any reckoning this constitutes a QSO - even for contest purposes
>
>Ha-ha! LOL! ROTFL!
>
>I agree but do expect a comment or two from the north-east part of the UK!
>;-)
North-east?  My father-in-law (a Geordie) always insisted that Yorkshire was=
 part of the Midlands.

John Rabson=20
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On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 22:42:10 +0100
"Johan H. Bodin" <jh.bodin@telia.com> wrote:

> I agree but do expect a comment or two from the north-east part of
> the UK! ;-)


I think you mean the "north-east part of _England_"?

The QTH alluded to is actually in the _southern_ part of the UK

But we all know what you mean!

:-)



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Hello Marco, Laurence, Markus,
Many thanks for the reports!

73
Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV


> Hello Andrey,
> I copied you also ufb (but not that strong as Henny) last evening first in qrss60 then your call in dfcw.
> 
> Regards, 73
> Marco
> DD7PC


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Good copy AGC and YO this evening,
what are your conditions ? Andrey
73 Jean-Pierre f1afj


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Jean-Pierre,

       I'm happy that you (and your antenna) survived the storm.
Thanks for the grabber, it is the best way for me to monitor my signal
especially now that there are no working grabbers in the US !

--=20
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
                WE2XEB/2
                WE2XGR/1


On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 4:24 AM, "Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 (F1AFJ)"
<jpm.f1afj@online.fr> wrote:
> Hi Warren ,
>
> The storm passed , the calm one returned ,
> I raised 127 km/h in my pylon 15 m in height !
> No damage here ( the grabber functioned
> during the night )
>
> 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj
>
> Warren Ziegler a =E9crit :
>>
>> Bonsoir Jean-Pierre,
>>
>>    I hope the wind does not damage your antenna!
>> Thank you for the report!
>> --
>> 73 Warren K2ORS
>>                WD2XGJ
>>                WD2XSH/23
>>                WE2XEB/2
>>                WE2XGR/1
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 6:27 PM, "Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 (F1AFJ)"
>> <jpm.f1afj@online.fr> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi Warren ,
>>>
>>> Hol=E0 ! very very stong signal now !!!!!
>>> Here the storm is very violent (110km/h)
>>> in this moment
>>>
>>> 73 qro Jean-Pierre
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>



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Hi Al - In Costa Rica it will be just outside Turrialba and in Abu Dhabi pro=
bably Shah....but starting off in Abu for a while... cheers

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Laurence do you know the city you will be ?Thanks Al XE2AT

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 Ill be running LF/MF rx operations from Costa Rica from appx 15-20th March=20=
2009 from CATIE (Tropical Agricultural Research and Higher Education Center)=
 Turrialba Centro Costa Rica whilst I refurb the HF commercial station there=
 for Raleigh International, the Youth Development charity. I was last there=20=
in 2003 on LF http://www.kl1x.com/costa.jpg and this time I wont have the lo=
op but will be using a probe - but Im expecting better things than last time=
 as weve figured out a few tricks to improve the s/n/. Rx will be SDR IQ and=
 PA0RDT probe plus LDF's, which are an easier transit as Ill be in and out v=
ia China -  This location afforded an excellent path to Eu and Americas'  on=
 LF and even though we were surrounded by volcanic mountains I managed to wo=
rk Argentina on 6m nearly every night last time around. The coasts arent tha=
t far away either side... I wont have Tx (I think) but call will be as then=20=
TI3/ KL 1 X From June or so this coming year it looks like Ill be working ou=
t of Abu Dhabi A61 for a while - no chance of a license there so it seems bu=
t will try to get the rx system on line. Laurence BY3A/ KL1 X, G4DMA

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Hi Al - In Costa Rica it will be just outside Turrialba and in Abu Dhabi pro=
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&nbsp;<BR>Ill be running LF/MF rx operations from Costa Rica from appx 15-20=
th March 2009 from CATIE (Tropical Agricultural Research and Higher Educatio=
n Center) Turrialba Centro Costa Rica whilst I refurb the HF commercial stat=
ion there for Raleigh International, the Youth Development charity.<BR>&nbsp=
;<BR>I was last there in 2003 on LF <A href=3D"http://www.kl1x.com/costa.jpg=
">http://www.kl1x.com/costa.jpg</A>&nbsp;and this time I wont have the loop=20=
but will be using a probe - but Im expecting better things than last time as=
 weve figured out a few tricks to improve the s/n/. Rx will be SDR IQ and PA=
0RDT probe plus LDF's, which are an easier transit as Ill be in and out via=20=
China - <BR>&nbsp;<BR>This location afforded an excellent path to Eu and Ame=
ricas'&nbsp; on LF and even though we were surrounded by volcanic mountains=20=
I managed to work Argentina on 6m nearly every night last time around. The c=
oasts arent that far away either side...<BR>&nbsp;<BR>I wont have Tx (I thin=
k) but call will be as then TI3/ KL 1 X<BR>&nbsp;<BR>From June or so this co=
ming year it looks like Ill be working out of Abu Dhabi A61 for a while - no=
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Hi Andy,

Joe K1JT did something similar in v0.6 of the WSPR software. From the release notes:

"3. A better randomizing algorithm for deciding when to transmit.  (The
method used in v0.5 was "too random" for some people; the specified Tx
percentages worked out faithfully when averaged over a long time, but
not necessarily over half an hour or so.)"

You could have a look at the WSPR source code (available somewhere on the web, I
believe) or just ask K1JT.


73 Johan SM6LKM


Andy Talbot wrote:

> I'm looking for a half-decent way of generating a pseudo
> random Tx/Rx sequence with defined duty cycle that does
> not give the long(ish) consecutive runs of 0's or 1's that
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Hi Andy

Why not simply OR the xx% duty cycle with the PN sequence and suppress 
repeated TX sequences in a row? This should create something code 
compact and simple that lets you sleep at night that can be pretty easy 
to make appear 'random.'  Also add the ability to your code to allow the 
user to select their own seed word.

A 256bit LFSR sequence run over a WSPR period would take along time for 
someone to figure out a pattern. Larger sequences would only take abit 
more effort to code and if your writing in C no real effort at all.

I think Joe K1JT lost some sleep over this as well.  You should drop him 
a line as he is most helpful about such dialog.

I ran into similar aesthetic issues simulating fire light with  LFSRs  
years  ago and  found that  many of them  operating in tangent with each 
other produced very layered and real appearing effects.

Another solution I have tried is an ADC or clipper/clamp circuit on an 
input of the MCU and an inductorless Chua's circuit driving it... Period 
three implies Chaos. 
http://www.cpdee.ufmg.br/~MACSIN/services/papers/toraguel.pdf

gl es 73
Scott
VE7TIL

 

Andy Talbot wrote:
> Scott:
> Its precisely that an LFSR does not give what is needed that made me
> start thinking along these lines.   For one thing, LFSRs are only
> random if considered over the whole repeat length, viz  2 ^ N - 1 bit
> for a maximal length sequence.   They will have one single run of
> exactly N ones, and N-1 zeroes, and a predicatable numbers of runs of
> fewer successive equal bits.  It is a well established annoyance with
> these that short register lengths cannot be used to generate
> half-decent pseudo randomness
>
> What I was idly speculating on was a straightforward way of generating
> a semi-random sequence with deliberately limited continuous runs of
> ones or zeroes.  By forcing this aspect, the sequence cannot possibly
> be random. A ideal sequence would probably have very little
> statistical randomness at all.  But it sems to have turned out to be
> not at all straightforward.
>
> Eg 33% duty cycle with no randomisation
>       001001001001001001001001001001
> A true PN sequence at 33% could be like
>       010000111100100000001100101000
> which has an excessively long sequence of ones for WSPR Tx purposes
> A more optimised pattern might be
>       001010100001010100100010001010
> Apart from one bit, this one is actually a smaller pattern repeated.
>
> Which all comes down to the idea that its easiest to just generate (by
> inspection !) a set of precomputed tables - but that just feels like
> cheating and I feel dissatisfied with it :-)
>
> Andy
> www.g4jnt.com
>
>
>
> 2009/2/21 Scott Tilley <sthed475@telus.net>:
>   
>> Hi Andy
>>
>> Try a 'Linear Feedback Shift Register', Google it...
>>
>> Very simple to implement in a MCU and can be scaled to any size you like.  I
>> wrote some code to do this in PIC assembly years ago that was only a few
>> lines long for a 256bit sequence...
>>
>> Best of all you can predict the outcome and choose a sequence that meets
>> your needs given a unique seed word....
>>
>> Better yet it offers a means of identification over a long term integration
>> :-)
>>
>> 73 Scott
>> VE7TIL
>>
>>
>> Andy Talbot wrote:
>>     
>>> ...but if any mathematicians,  number theorists or cryptographers
>>> should be reading this...
>>>
>>> I've just got a WSPR generating routine running on a PIC / AD9852 /
>>> GPS combination, but I'm looking for a half-decent way of generating a
>>> pseudo random Tx/Rx sequence with defined duty cycle that does not
>>> give the long(ish) consecutive runs of 0's or 1's that MUST ALWAYS
>>> occasionally be seen in a truly random sequence.
>>>
>>> In other words, the sequence needs to be bandpass filtered.
>>>
>>> Before I cop-out and just use a pre-generated set of lookup tables,
>>> take a look at   http://www.g4jnt.com/WSPR_PN_Sequence.pdf
>>> for a fuller description of the mind-bender
>>>
>>>
>>> Andy  G4JNT
>>> www.g4jnt.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>       
>>     
>
>
>   


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Dear Nicolas, Alberto,

Yes, they certainly kept quiet about that one! I notice the web site says:

Unofficial transmissions
Unofficial transmissions may take place, due to maintenance, training or 
local events. Reports from unofficial transmissions are normally not 
rewarded by QSL cards.



Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU

>> Not bad reception of SAQ transmission this morning in JN08WN (my job)
>> Not QSB and not QRN,thanx to Lars and the Grimeton's team.
>>
>> *F4DTL /P Nicolas*
>
> There has been an SAQ transmission this morning ? I haven't seen it 
> advertised anywhere...
> May be I didn't pay enough attention...
>
> 73  Alberto  I2PHD
>
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> 



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Solid copy in JO67MR Andy, including the CW ID!


73
Johan SM6LKM

Andy Talbot wrote:
> 503.870 +23dBm ERP running now,  34.375% duty cycle ...
> 
> Andy  G4JNT
> www.g4jnt.com


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Thanks Henny!
-- 
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2009/2/12 henny van elst <cpm@planet.nl>:
> Hello Warren,LF
> capture XGJ
> Henny CPM
> 73S
> Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden
> verzonden:
> XGJ 12-02.jpg
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Have you tried adjusting the PCI bus settings in CMOS..?


----- Original Message ----- 
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Subject: Re: LF: Re: wspr and the over clocked sound card .. whats the final 
position ??


> Jordan
>
>
> The card is a PCI  ,   M - Audio Delta 4
>
> running with windows  xp-pro
>
> There are a selection of clock speeds .. but  it seems that when a 
> application runs . it defaults to the 44k setting .. but  for all other 
> software .. no problem .. works very well
>
> G ..
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Jordan" <outposter30@shaw.ca>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 11:59 PM
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> Subject: LF: Re: wspr and the over clocked sound card .. whats the  final 
> position ??
>
>>
>> Is this for an on-board sound card, and if not, what type of bus is it 
>> on..?
>> 73...Jordan....
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 4:50 PM
>> Subject: LF: wspr and the over clocked sound card .. whats the final
>> position ??
>>
>>
>>>
>>> wspr and the over clocked sound card
>>>
>>> Was there a resolve to the  problem of the  short wspr  tx produced by a
>>> soundcard that was running  slightly  faster than it  should
>>>
>>> 1.5 seconds short .....  about 1 %
>>>
>>> , resulting in no decodes for strong signals .. presumably by providing
>>> too many sync's
>>>
>>> There is no way of changing the  sample  rate of the  card .. there is a
>>> option in the  driver . but  as soon as wspr  runs . the  card reverts 
>>> to
>>> the  normal 44 khz setting
>>>
>>> No problems with any of the  other  systems as the  card can be 
>>> calibrated
>>> (though not  needed)
>>>
>>> any  fixes or ideas ??
>>>
>>> tnx
>>>
>>> Graham ..
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>>
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>>
>
> 



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Jim,

Well  as far as I can see, its the number of tones in mt63 that cause the 
'peak' to  be so low .  however . looks like the mfsk16 is working very well 
...?

ive found decoding differences with fldig and  multipsk  .. nor sure why .. 
during some test s with Gary  multipsk did a better job .. but then ive run 
fldigi with the hf seup ads/usb card (now in use) and not had a problem ..

tnx -G ..

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From: "James Moritz" <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 8:51 PM
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Subject: LF: Re: If anyones about , MT63  x 500 Hz and Olivia 500 x 8 
running now 1935 hrs

>
> Dear Graham, LF Group,
>
> I have two instances of FLdigi running - getting some copy with Olivia:
>
> CQ CQ CQ 5~..g$o3d  g0nbd  g0nbd io79B i1E0a DE&&s
> Lbd  g0nbd  goD'j
> CENoQ C@oTt.g0nbda_<0nbdo
> bd  kkk
>
> The Olivia signal is faintly audible here, but the MT63 seems to be
> undetectable by any means! I will leave it running for a while, I expect
> signal levels will pick up later.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 7:39 PM
> Subject: LF: If anyones about , MT63 x 500 Hz and Olivia 500 x 8 running 
> now
> 1935 hrs
>
>
>> As a follow on to some tests  with Gary  , with Olivia  500 x 8 and the
>> original MT63 system
>
>
>



>
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> 



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Hi Mark, LF,

 

Received my new NoV today also.

 

I echo thanks to all who negotiated for the further 1 year extension.

 

Cheers

 

Gary - G4WGT.

 

  _____  

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Mark
Sent: 18 February 2009 11:42
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: New NOV

 

Gents

I am please to report that a new NOV for 500KHz just arrived.

The new NOV runs until 28 Feb 2010 and allows +10dBW,  501 to 504 KHz with
immediate effect.

 

Work will therefore start on the transverter here, though 10W ERP will not
be possible from this antenna.

Filed strengths will be too high and I may have serious voltage rating
issues.

 

Many thanks to all those quietly involved in the background in getting the
NOV extended

mark GM4ISM

www.dc2light.co.uk

 

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue;font-weight:bold'>Received
my new NoV today also.<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue;font-weight:bold'>I echo
thanks to all who negotiated for the further 1 year extension.<o:p></o:p></s=
pan></font></b></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=
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G4WGT.<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

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<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Mark<br>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10=
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though
10W ERP will not be possible from this antenna.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10=
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Thanks for the capture Victor!
-- 
73 Warren K2ORS
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                WD2XSH/23
                WE2XEB/2
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On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 3:23 AM,  <victor13@online.nl> wrote:
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>
> good signal but a lot of qrm on this site,
>
> 73
>
> Victor



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Jay, LF,

I wonder if the WSPR TX is off at the moment, I see no one else has
decoded anything beyond 23:32 and the waterfall shows an abrubt ending
of a trace shortly into the 23:34 period.

Hope all is well!

John


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Hi Alan, Group.

Thanks for the encouragement! I'll battle with the elements to keep 
emitting long waves as long as it takes.  It's a good way of keeping 
oneself in shape, trudging up and down the hill with snow shoes,through
neck-deep snow drifts, felling with my trusty axe trees that dare to snag 
the antenna wire...

Keep up the great work with your forecasts.

73
Joe VO1NA

On Mon, 23 Feb 2009, Alan Melia wrote:

> Hi Joe well done on repairing your antenna. It seems as though the predicted
> coronal-hole event was very mild and should not affect LF propagation
> significantly. The outlook now is for good to very good night-time
> conditions on LF, allowing for the multi-path fading of course, over the
> rest of the week.
>
> Best Wishes
> Alan G3NYK
>
>
>
>


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Andy Talbot wrote:
> Has everybody had their 500kHz NoV extensions yet, or am I the only
> one not to receive it ?

Hello Andy,

Yes, even my NoV has reached this distant outpost of the Empire, so
looks like yours may be lost in transit, or you've upset the man from
OFCOM....

JOhn


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thanks Markus and Andrey
because of the QRH I stopped the transmission
regards
Uwe/dj8wx
PS. next days I have to change my email adr.

Zitat von Andrey rn3agc <rn3agc@mail.ru>:

> Argo in QRSS30
>
> 73
> Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV
>
>
>> Hello Uwe, Markus, LF,
>>
>> ...testing a new machine...
>> Argo in qrss3.
>>
>> 73
>> Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV
>>
>>
>>> ...seen on 136.316 tonight.  73 de DF6NM
>
>





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> No wasted power going into and out of the ground...

Dave

If you believe this I have a bridge you might be interested in purchasing...

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2     


----- Original Message ----- 
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> Glad you asked, Andy...  Hope this one makes it past the spam filter...
> 
> Back in the commercial AM transmitter biz days I buried miles of extra 
> copper in to poor conductivity soil and gained little or nothing.
> Then came Bill Ashloop who proved that a small transmit loop can do quite 
> well.
> http://www.wireless.org.uk/loopy.htm
> http://www.w1tag.com/XESANT.htm
> 
> So I surveryed the back yard which sits on very poor conductivity soil and 
> therefore makes a loop appear to me more in free space and here are the 
> advantages that I have found to date:
> 
> No high voltage wire ends to start tree fires. No wasted power going into 
> and out of the ground...
> 
> Much less wire used in a LOOP transmit antenna. This #4 stranded HV wire 
> rests inside of 100' sections of garden hose and is hoisted into trees with 
> help of compound bow and pull line.
> 
> No top loading, no radials, much less noise on RX, E-Z to tune and weather 
> does not affect the tuning much such as from rain or snow, and it acts like 
> a good vertical regardless of being much simpler.
> 
> As for the CONS, well I just don't think of any...  Somebody??
> 
> It works very well from 600M to 6M and is the only real antenna that I still 
> have.
> 
> Various feeds as noted below will let you tune it down to SAQ@17kc which I 
> always hear and also makes for superb DX on 6M in 'some directions'.
> 
> ref: http://www.radiocom.net/600M/LOOP109.jpg
> 
> Wish I had a El-Nec printout but can't seem to fit this version in to it.
> 
> QSL SURE VIA E-MAIL
> 090226 0406   1 -29  0.0   0.503869  G4JNT IO90 23
> 090226 0610   3 -29  0.0   0.503869  G4JNT IO90 23
> 
> Have a quiet night and TNX from Dave @ WD2XSH/17
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Andy Talbot" <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 11:16 AM
> Subject: LF: LF Antennas - back to basics
> 
> 
>> Having now been encouraged by being decoded now by at least two US
>> stations,  was wondering how much improvement in efficiency I could
>> scrape out of my existing antenna.  It is a Marconi Tee, the vertical
>> element consisting of three wires from the base tapering to 200mm
>> spacing at the top.  There it is attached to the centre of a a
>> capacity hat 15m long and 200mm wide made of three parallel wires.
>>
>> The ground system is a bit haphazard in my 7m wide by 12m long garden,
>> with about 4 wires meeting at the base of the antenna meandering
>> around the garden, starting off in different directions from teh base.
>> They are all connected to substantial ground rods in heavy clay  at
>> their far points, a with a few randomly spaced rods in between (I used
>> several 1m lengths of 15mm water pipe as well as proper rods - there
>> is probably about 9 or 10 rods in total, mostly 1 - 2m in length -
>> can't remember that far back!   Some of the earth conductors were also
>> bonded to the house wiring by a couple of substantial straps, and even
>> inside the house I added more straps at strategic places.   I also
>> ensured there was a good fat cable run directly under as much of the
>> capacity hat as possible.   As a test, disconnecting the PME earthing
>> bond and measuring the DC resistance between my total set of
>> connections and the incoming conductor ground/neutral point, the value
>> was a pretty consistent 3 ohms.  Haven't done this test for a few
>> years, but at the last check it was still of this order.
>>
>> Back in the 73kHz days a number of (mostly big!) stations were
>> surprised my signal was as strong as it was for probably the smallest
>> antenna in use then; G3LDO put it down to the fact I had concentrated
>> plenty of earthing wire to run directly under the top-hat.
>>
>> But, its all 14 years old,  still OK, but hopefully there's a wealth
>> of experience now, and I wonder if there are obvious improvements that
>> could be made:
>>
>> Firstly, bearing in mind there is no scope whatsoever to raise one end
>> of the capacity hat which is defined by the apex of the house roof,
>> and the other end would also need some major sugery to raise its heigh
>> substantially, that only leaves the middle, ie the height of the
>> actual radiator.    It wouldn't be too difficult to raise this to 10m
>> or even more with a fibreglass pole, but will I be throwing away all
>> the advantage by having the top-hat drooping down to 7m?
>>
>> Secondly, pictures of other peoples antennas aften show a substantial
>> grounding plate immediately under and around the antenna base.  Just
>> how far out is is worth going with a really substantial base.   I
>> could cut more conductors into the ground; while the ground is still
>> is still soggy in March may be a good time to do this.
>>
>> Any ideas please ...?
>>
>>
>> Andy  G4JNT
>> www.g4jnt.com
>> 
> 
>


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Hello Jay, LFers,

First indication of signal was at 2212Z, both on the WSPR computer
and the other box running Spectran.  I needed to tweak the clock by
two seconds, then got the first decode at 2232Z.  I'll continue to run
both progs throughout the evening.

73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
Solar and wind powered
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Hi Chris, LF,
Capture last night in 00.02z.

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Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV

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Subject: Re: LF: Re: Fldig Farq  mfsk16  beacon  503 Khz  pls try connect ?
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Ok Jim

I did see a  mfsk  signal hf of myself and gary  ? I am in qso  with gary 
using the falq .. but it looks to  be a little fragile
looks like you will need to  copy all the beacon text  for the signal to  be 
usable in the arq mode

amtor would be better with the 3 letters a time . I could  rig up the pk232 
.. but who ealse has one ?

tnx - G ..

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Subject: LF: Re: Fldig Farq  mfsk16  beacon  503 Khz  pls try connect ?

>
> Dear Graham,
>
> Well, I think it is set up OK, but at the moment your beacon signal is 
> very
> weak and not getting much copy here - so far your callsign has not 
> appeared
> in the FLARQ callsign window, which is what I think should happen. I will
> monitor your sigs until hopefully they get a bit stronger later on.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
>
>



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Hi, Jay, LF,

I don't know when you stopped, but here is another sample of the decodes
(best of the bunch). I guess you'd call that a copy!

Fantastic! Did anyone else hear it?

BURLIN2QT FN31IETTESTING PSKF31...
WE9DI3EB 4NRI5 L1 O TESTING PSKFEC59...
WE2XETR/2 BURLINGTON CT FN31IS TESTING PSKFEC3/NE0WE2XGR/2 BURLINGTON CT
FN31IS TESTING PSKFEC31..WE2XGR/2 BURLINGTON CT FN31IRSGSTING PSKFEC31...
WE2XGR A2 BURLINGTON CT FN39IS TESTINGIRSKFEC31L.
WE2XGR/2 B RLINGTON-FFN31IS TESTING PSRFEC31...
WE2XGR/2 BURLINGTON CT FN31IS TESTING PSKFEC31...
WE2XGR/2 BURLINGTON CT FN31IS TESTINGEBSKFEC&JT..
WE2XGR/2 B KLINGTON CT FN31IS TESTING PSKFEC31...
WE2XGR/2 BURLINGTON CT FN31IS TESTING PSKFEC31...
WE2XGR/2 BURLINGTON CT FN31IS TESTINGRAAAFEC31...
WE2XGR/2 BURLINGTON CT FN31IS TESTING PSKFEC31...
WE2XGR/2 BURLINGTON CT FN31IS TESTING PSKFEC31...
WE2XGR/2 BURLINGTON CT  :IT8)M PSKFEC31...
WE2XGR/2 BURLTOGTON CT   ICXTT8 NE2ISHETTOTEETING BSK TEC31

Cheers, Mike G7AQA

-----Original Message-----
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Subject: LF: WE2XGR/2 in PSKFEC31

WE2XGR/2 will be transmitting in PSKFEC31 mode tonight on 508.5 kHz starting
2130Z and will continue until at least 0100Z and perhaps beyond.

PSKFEC31 (PSK31 with forward error correction) can be decoded with the
colorful program MultiPSK - available at http://www.f6cte.free.fr/ . 
Sunglasses are recommended for the first time user. As far as I know there
are no other programs that can decode this mode. If anyone has info to the
contrary please advise.

Some background info on PSKFEC31 and other digital modes as well as tests
run by W1TAG and myself can be found at http://www.w1tag.com/600M_Modes.htm
.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2 




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Is there anyone in QSO mode during daytime on MF/LF. There is plenty of scop=
e for propagation experiments daytime with the new 10w erp UK power.
I would like to check the QSB aspect if anyone is interested. I can copy DI2=
AM all day without any noticeable QSB because of his power output.=20
I expect the reciprocal is true from the UK around EU with the higher UK pow=
er.=20
All reports and QSO'S appreciated. Also QAP on 7033 khz for xband, this is a=
lso a good night time freq for TR xband QSO'S.
73 de Mal.G3KEV
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Is there anyone in QSO mode during daytime=20=
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10w erp UK power.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I would like to check the&nbsp;QSB aspect i=
f anyone=20
is interested. I can copy DI2AM all day without any noticeable QSB because o=
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 around=20
EU with the higher UK power. </FONT></DIV>
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o QAP on=20
7033 khz for xband, this is also a good night time freq for TR xband=20
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Jim

Will move up to 508.53.

Jay


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> Dear Jay, LF Group,
> 
> Would it be possible to QSY to slightly above last night's frequency - say 
> to 508.52 or 508.53kHz RF? You would then be clear of the " intermittent CW" 
> noise I am getting here on 508.50kHz.
> 
> As before, I have two RXs running here, on 502.4kHz and 507kHz "dial 
> frequency".
> 
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
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> 
>> Confirming start of WSPR transmission 2030Z on 507.000 dial frequency.
>>
>> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>> 
> 
>


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Hmm... I don't know Andy, my local environment is very quiet at the moment but
it could also be a trick of the ionosphere... My aerial tonight is far from
optimal on 600m. It is a horizontal dipole for 80m (actually an FD-4 windom with
the original balun) about 10m above GND. I just checked the noise floor and it
is -128dBm with the antenna connected and -131dBm with a 50 ohm dummy load, both
in a 230Hz BW, so your signal is very close to the RX noise floor here... The
S/N of your signal would surely be a few dB better if I had a decent aerial.

Thanks for the signal.

73
Johan SM6LKM

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Andy Talbot skrev:
> That's very interesting -  I appear to be 10 - 15dB better S/N with
> you Johan (-5db S/N) at 1200km, than with GM4ISM (-20dB S/N) at 577km.
> 
> Background noise levels ?
> Sea path ?
> 
> Andy  G4JNT
> www.g4jnt.com



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Hi Joe and All,
nice capture VO1NA,
Henny cpm
best 73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
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Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld.

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Joe and All,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>nice capture VO1NA,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Henny cpm</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>best 73s</FONT></DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het 
volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:<BR>VO1NA 
17-02.jpg<BR><BR>Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging 
tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet 
toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe 
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Hi Joe,
nothing seen
Henny cpm
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.... quite good! 73 de Markus, DF6NM

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Hi Warren,Lf,
a very litlle trace,
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Warren,Lf,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>a very litlle trace,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>henny cpm</FONT></DIV>
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2009/2/24 Lubos OK2BVG <bvgbob@hotmail.com>:
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> Not very good propagations this morning here. Band was noisy.
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TNX Rik,

Both he and DI2AM were not doing so well as local snow storm noise was very 
high, but the neutron density @ 
http://dx.qsl.net/propagation/propagation.html was over 12.0

Could see strong signal with long dashes and probably CW ID but it was all 
sliced up with QRN hits.

Dave




----- Original Message ----- 
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Subject: Re: LF: SIGS on 503.95


> Dave,
>
> l believe that G3XIZ was transmitting QRSS30 on that frequency, saw him on 
> Gary's grabber.
>
> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
>
> BTW: inter-Europe condx seemed very good yesterday:
> DI & OK beacons were booming as was SK6RUD.
> Also good copy of GI4DPE beacon (peaking 579)
> Strong (599+) daytime copy of G3KEV, obviously enjoying the new 10W ERP 
> privileges
>
>
> At 03:07 20/02/2009, you wrote:
>>UNID QRSS on 503.950 now, too much QRN
>>
>>
>>TNX
>>
>>Dave @ WD2XSH/17
>>
>>
>
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Hi Jean-Pierre,

     That was not me at 23:20, I was not on at all last night!
I have been off the past two days because of weather and 160m operation.
--=20
73 Warren K2ORS
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> XGJ, just a short test @ 23:20 ! Warren are you always in QRP ?
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> 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj
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You'll have to  add a bit of  decision making logic that looks for the not 
allowed conditions ... but if its really random, as the hitch hikers guide 
to the galaxy tells us .. anything  could  happen , to quote  ' MUST ALWAYS 
occasionally be seen' looks like 'it' has  started already ...

'Don't Panic'

G ..

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From: "Andy Talbot" <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>
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shouldn't be allowed here!

>
> ...but if any mathematicians,  number theorists or cryptographers
> should be reading this...
>
> I've just got a WSPR generating routine running on a PIC / AD9852 /
> GPS combination, but I'm looking for a half-decent way of generating a
> pseudo random Tx/Rx sequence with defined duty cycle that does not
> give the long(ish) consecutive runs of 0's or 1's that MUST ALWAYS
> occasionally be seen in a truly random sequence.
>
> In other words, the sequence needs to be bandpass filtered.
>
> Before I cop-out and just use a pre-generated set of lookup tables,
> take a look at   http://www.g4jnt.com/WSPR_PN_Sequence.pdf
> for a fuller description of the mind-bender
>
>
> Andy  G4JNT
> www.g4jnt.com
>
>



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XGR faded out here at 0840Z, 20 minutes after local sunrise

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

Quoting Andy Talbot <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>:

> Heavy snow (by our standards!) in S England, so took the opportunity
> to not bother going into work and to carry on logging.
>
> The signal has been pretty consistent at -20dB +/- 4  since switch-on
> at 0640, and has now risen by about 10dB S/N at 0720.  There is now
> local QRM, and that suggests the signal strength increase is actually
> greater still - certainly appears so from the SpectraVue waterfall
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Hello Henny, Victor,
Thanks for the reports!

73
Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV


> Hi Lf,
> capture AGC
> Henny cpm
> 73s
> Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
> AGC 21-02.jpg
>
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OK G

00Z will be past the first anticipated peak...

Working down in uW range is not only economical but it gets the noise out 
too...

TNX


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 4:22 PM
Subject: LF: RE: WSPRs


> Hi Dave, LF,
>
> I will probably close down about 0000utc + or -.
>
> Only about 5 watts RF to antenna, frequency 503.915KHz.
>
> 73
>
> Gary - G4WGT.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of dave.riley3
> Sent: 22 February 2009 21:10
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Cc: 600MRG
> Subject: LF: WSPRs
>
> DE WD2XSH/17 tuned for WSPRs from G4JNT and G4WGT on or about 503.900 +/-
> 100HZ.
>
> Please advise your quitting times, else will let it run all night...
>
> TNX
>
> Dave
>
>
> re:
> http://wsprnet.org/meptspots.php?mode=html&band=2190&limit=50&findcall=&find
> reporter=&sort=date
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>
>
> 



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HI Joe,lf,

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Hello Andy, Group,

are you still transmitting?

Vy 73 de Gerhard  /  DK6NI

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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von Andy Talbot
Gesendet: Montag, 23. Februar 2009 22:38
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Betreff: LF: WSPR - a philosophical question.

Mostly in Jest, but food for thought...

The WSPR database with its complete record of who has heard whom with
date, time , frequency, locator, report and stated Tx power opens up
an interesting philosophical concept.

If the database records that A has heard B, and B has heard A, then
the stations have exchanged reports, location and a piece of unique
information.   By any reckoning this constitutes a QSO - even for
contest purposes.   So now, I don't have to sit in front of a rig
waffling or tapping,  or even be in the shack, or even awake, to have
a valid QSO.   I can be on continuously, 24/7/52.14775  to take
advantage of lifts and anti-social-hours propagation.

Lets do this on all the bands!  Choose a modulation type matched to
the RF medium and bandwidth, and just get on with it.
Throw away those microphones, and definitely those funny tappy 19th
centuary things.

There is one downside: a permanant internet connection to upload
real-time reports.   BUT this could even herald a rebirth for packet
radio if local amateurs could set up simple forwarding nodes to
suitable internet connections?


Andy  G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com




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On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 19:02:42 -0000
"Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

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> Follow on from last night 
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> Running Fldig in 'farq'  mode at 503 Khz centre frequency 
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> Beacon  set every 60  seconds 
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Have grabber showing 501 - 503.3

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Graham, LF,

Whilst I am still hearing both modes since inserting a 20dB attenuator the
MT63 sounds very much lower in the audio than Olivia. Olivia is printing
about 90pc & MT63 just the odd word or two in each over, not sufficient copy
for a QSO.

Gary - G4WGT.



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Mode change

>From the initial reports it looks like the MT63 system is not as robust at 
the olivia 500 x 8

I will  change the MT63  mode to  MFSK16  , at  1000 Hz audio cent , ( 502 
Khz  rf cent )

As mfsk will pass via a non linear system , this may be of wider interest

Change time  >>> 2100 Hrs gmt <<<<

tnx - G ..



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>
> Nb . no rx cycle
>
> --------------------------------------------------
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> now 1935 hrs
>
>>
>> As a follow on to some tests  with Gary  , with Olivia  500 x 8 and the
>> original MT63 system
>>
>> Running  two  data streams now at about 10  watts per mode , carrier
>> frequencies are :-
>>
>> mt63   501.5 to  502 Khz
>>
>> olivia 500x8  503 Khz +/-  250 Hz
>>
>> The book says mt63 should not print as well as olivia .....
>>
>> tnx - G ..
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SRI folks, the 600 Watt PA has now been sold.

...and to the several who asked if it would go at 500kHz, the answer
is 'No'.  At least as it stood; the transformers would have to be
rewound with 3 - 4 times the number of turns and it really is a bit
OTT using VHF fets at 0.5MHz  (sez he who uses a 200W 0.5 to 40MHz BB
amp for 500k :-)

Andy  G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com


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Henny,

   Thanks for the capture!
-- 
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
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2009/2/26 henny van elst <cpm@planet.nl>:
> capture xgj
> henny cpm
> 73s Warren
> Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden
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Dear all,

I am a bit fuzzed by the SNR values given by WSPR, in particular with  
strong signals.
SM6BHZ is right now loud and clear, CW could be easy to copy and Gus  
could even give SSB a try. But WSPR is giving SNR values between -7  
and +4 dB.

What I noticed is that the SM6BZH signal raises the "noise level"  
given by WSJT7 by about 6dB (-3dB in absense of the signal, +3dB  
otherwise). I noticed the same effect with M0BMU some days ago. Maybe  
that causes the poor SNR?

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T



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Hi Joe and LF,
Capture VO1NA,
Henny CPM
Best 73s
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Henny CPM</FONT></DIV>
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Hi LF!

Coming back home I switched on the radio tuned to 189kHz.
I'm regularely observing this RUV transmitter Gufuskálar since 16.Jan.2009,  getting "a propagation feeling" on this path. 

Liste

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XGJ, just a short test @ 23:20 ! Warren are you always in QRP ?

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Ok Rik,

Yes ... hihi

Running

USB Dial  freq - 501.000  Khz

olivia  250 x 8  centre freq      2000  Hz audio    503 Khz  rf

MFSK  16  centre freq  1000 Hz audio     502Khz rf

Tnx - G ...



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>
> Graham,
>
> I just installed multipsk.
> I believe it is the most chaotic programme I have ever seen.
>
> Right now 21:28UTC I hear alternating signals on 502 and 503.
>
> As I am not in the mood of reading the multipsk manual today could you
> just tell me what mode is running where and what dial frequency / mode
> (USB or LSB) I should set the RX to?
>
> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
>
> Quoting Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>:
>
>> Modes changed
>>
>> MT63   STOPPED
>>
>> MFSK16 ,  Centre freq   1000 Hz audio
>>
>> Approx  15 watts peak per stream
>>
>> Thanks for reports .. will run this config  an hour or so
>>
>> G ..
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 7:39 PM
>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Subject: LF: If anyones about , MT63  x 500 Hz and Olivia 500 x 8
>> running now 1935 hrs
>>
>>>
>>> As a follow on to some tests  with Gary  , with Olivia  500 x 8 and the
>>> original MT63 system
>>>
>>> Running  two  data streams now at about 10  watts per mode , carrier
>>> frequencies are :-
>>>
>>> mt63   501.5 to  502 Khz
>>>
>>> olivia 500x8  503 Khz +/-  250 Hz
>>>
>>> The book says mt63 should not print as well as olivia .....
>>>
>>> tnx - G ..
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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Thanks Henny!
-- 
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                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
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>
> very good signal 5:40z
>
> 73
>
> Victor



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Our "data" signal was pretty strong on 139Khz this morning -
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 Long Haul is pretty fair to only average towards Eu with both utility stati=
ons (DCF39 and Budapest) around 20dB above noise at times.=20

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I did a short .wav recording of this "new" signal http://www.kl1x.com/139.wa=
v  you can hear DCF39 tone in the background. Is this Ankara running a new m=
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=20
Good signals from the Russian overnight - at their request Ill be slowing to=
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&nbsp;<BR>Our "data" signal was pretty strong on 139Khz this morning -<BR>&n=
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utility stations (DCF39 and Budapest) around 20dB above noise at times. <BR>
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I did a short .wav recording of this "new" signal <A href=3D"http://www.kl1x=
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I'll be running the WSPR beacon again tonight, from around 1900 UTC -
or perhaps a little earlier.
Frequency 503.870kHz centre, 33% duty cycle (based on a 32 frame repeat cycle).

There's a CW ident at the end of each frame.
OOPS bandplan error, CW in the WSPR segment, DON'T PANIC!
(It lies in the dead time segment when no-one should be transmitting)

Andy  G4JNT
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Rik and group

Confirming start at 2130Z.

Downloaded Stream earlier and was unable to get it to work. MultiPSK works fine. May very well be 
cockpit error. Will  look into it.

Jay


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> Jay,
>
> It just downloaded / installed stream (IZ8BLY).
> RX / PC is on 508.5 overnight
>
> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
>
> Quoting jrusgrove@comcast.net:
>
>> WE2XGR/2 will be transmitting in MFSK8 mode on 508.5 kHz from 2130Z -
>> 0000Z tonight. Reports are appreciated.
>>
>> When using MultiPSK as the decoder be advised that the program has been
>> known to occasionally go on 'walkabout' after loss of signal. Stopping
>> and restarting the decoder seems to solve the problem.
>>
>> Jay  W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>
>
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Hello Jay,Tx is stopped ? nothing now.
 
 
F4DTL  Nicolas JN18FP

RX : Icom IC7400
Ant: Wellbrook LFL 1010

_http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/_ (http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/) 

 
 
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Dr Mal !
Tnx for QRSS / QSO yesterday!! It was my first QRSS /QSO !! Ur Sigs are 
ufb ( T ) 15dB oN . Hope we have CW /QSO agn! My rig TX : homebrew abt 
500 Watts, Ant: GP 14 m high, toploadet, RX : Teletron TE 704c
VY 73 es 55
Arnim DL1EIE


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...but if any mathematicians,  number theorists or cryptographers
should be reading this...

I've just got a WSPR generating routine running on a PIC / AD9852 /
GPS combination, but I'm looking for a half-decent way of generating a
pseudo random Tx/Rx sequence with defined duty cycle that does not
give the long(ish) consecutive runs of 0's or 1's that MUST ALWAYS
occasionally be seen in a truly random sequence.

In other words, the sequence needs to be bandpass filtered.

Before I cop-out and just use a pre-generated set of lookup tables,
take a look at   http://www.g4jnt.com/WSPR_PN_Sequence.pdf
for a fuller description of the mind-bender


Andy  G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com


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Hi all,

for a couple of days, I have been hearing / seeing a CW beacon from DF5QZ on=
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Good luck and have a nice Sunday,

Markus,=20
DF6NM in Nuerberg, JN59NK

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Hi Warren,
capture XGJ
Henny cpm
73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
XGJ 07-02.jpg

Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld.

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Warren,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>capture XGJ</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Henny cpm</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>73s</FONT></DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het volgende 
bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:<BR>XGJ 07-02.jpg<BR><BR>Opmerking: 
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ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de 
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Hi Warren,lf,

good copy of your signal 

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HELLO ALL,

JUST ONE "g"down here,

73

Victor

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens "Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9
(F1AFJ)"
Verzonden: vrijdag 20 februari 2009 8:44
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Onderwerp: LF: [ 137 kHz ] LF T/A , XGJ



Hello ,

XGJ, just a short test @ 23:20 ! Warren are you always in QRP ?

73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj



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Well only in confusion can gain be made ........

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From: "John P-G" <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk>
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Subject: Re: LF: Olivia 500 x 8  MFSK16  NOW RUNNING

>
> On Wed, 04 Feb 2009 22:32:21 +0100
> Rik Strobbe <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be> wrote:
>
>> I just installed multipsk.
>> I believe it is the most chaotic programme I have ever seen.
>
> That's the truth!
>
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Henny,  Victor, Lubos, Markus,

   Thanks all for the reports and captures for the past two nights!

-- 
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2009/2/22 henny van elst <cpm@planet.nl>:
> Hi Warren,lf
> capture XGJ
> Henny cpm
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Thanks I will  add the attenuators later hi , I will leave it running for a 
while at this level .. Rik did say he could see the streams .. so hopefully 
he might get some decodes , John as well is looking on from up north ..

G ...

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From: "Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
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Subject: LF: RE: If anyones about , MT63  x 500 Hz and Olivia 500 x 8 
running now 1935 hrs

>
> Hi Graham, LF.
>
> Both modes printing at 100pc but I am too close to make any comparison at
> these strengths.
>
> If someone from a greater distance can set up two instances of Multipsk &
> monitor both together & report here on LF that would be ideal.
>
> 73
>
> Gary - G4WGT.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham
> Sent: 04 February 2009 19:39
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> Subject: LF: If anyones about , MT63 x 500 Hz and Olivia 500 x 8 running 
> now
> 1935 hrs
>
> As a follow on to some tests  with Gary  , with Olivia  500 x 8 and the
> original MT63 system
>
> Running  two  data streams now at about 10  watts per mode , carrier
> frequencies are :-
>
> mt63   501.5 to  502 Khz
>
> olivia 500x8  503 Khz +/-  250 Hz
>
> The book says mt63 should not print as well as olivia .....
>
> tnx - G ..
>
>
>
>
>
>
>



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Mechanical considerations
50turns of 5mm wire base loaded coil is more efficient than 100 turns of 1mm=
 wire centre or top loaded to resonate the same vertical.=20
I have experienced this on 160m  mobile loading coils years ago.
Of course if your vertical would take the strain of 100 turns of 10mm centre=
 or top loaded you would gain on Rr of maybe 0.00037 ohms on 500 khz.
g3kev

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: mal hamilton=20
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  Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 6:16 PM
  Subject: LF: Ground system


  MF
  A couple of elevated insulated radials will out perform dozens of buried r=
adials, in fact 1 radial is vy effective, even insulated radials lying above=
 ground are also efficient.=20
  I use 2 insulated 1/4 wave elevated radials on 500 khz and several lying o=
n the ground for 137 khz.
  Using a loading coil in an elevated position on a vertical helps but remem=
ber twice as many turns are required as opposed to base loading hence more r=
esistance, you might not be gaining as much advantage as you think.
  de mal/g3kev



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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mechanical considerations</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>50turns of 5mm wire base loaded coil is mor=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have experienced this on 160m &nbsp;mobil=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Of course if your vertical would take the s=
train of=20
100 turns of 10mm centre or top loaded you would gain on Rr of maybe 0.00037=
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ohms on 500 khz.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>g3kev</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>MF</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>A couple of elevated insulated radials wi=
ll out=20
  perform dozens of buried radials, in fact 1 radial is vy effective, even=20
  insulated radials lying above ground are also efficient. </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I use 2 insulated 1/4 wave elevated radia=
ls on=20
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>de mal/g3kev</FONT></DIV>
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Dear Jay, Rik, LF Group,

Getting pretty consistent copy of WE2XGR now, give or take the usual QSB - I 
seem to be back in business for the time being.

Re the odd minutes - DF6NM noticed that this happened when "Dtime" was set 
to a positive value to adjust the clock. Mine is set to +1.5 seconds at the 
moment.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU

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strange: Jim (BMU) is reporting on the odd minute at wsprnet.org




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Hi Andy

Try a 'Linear Feedback Shift Register', Google it...

Very simple to implement in a MCU and can be scaled to any size you 
like.  I wrote some code to do this in PIC assembly years ago that was 
only a few lines long for a 256bit sequence...

Best of all you can predict the outcome and choose a sequence that meets 
your needs given a unique seed word....

Better yet it offers a means of identification over a long term 
integration :-)

73 Scott
VE7TIL


Andy Talbot wrote:
> ...but if any mathematicians,  number theorists or cryptographers
> should be reading this...
>
> I've just got a WSPR generating routine running on a PIC / AD9852 /
> GPS combination, but I'm looking for a half-decent way of generating a
> pseudo random Tx/Rx sequence with defined duty cycle that does not
> give the long(ish) consecutive runs of 0's or 1's that MUST ALWAYS
> occasionally be seen in a truly random sequence.
>
> In other words, the sequence needs to be bandpass filtered.
>
> Before I cop-out and just use a pre-generated set of lookup tables,
> take a look at   http://www.g4jnt.com/WSPR_PN_Sequence.pdf
> for a fuller description of the mind-bender
>
>
> Andy  G4JNT
> www.g4jnt.com
>
>
>   


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Spoilt here by -60dBm peaking noise from lightning courtesy of a cyclone loo=
king object spinning to the East of Japan but Budapest and DCF39 reaching 40=
dB over noise at times with RTTY sigs meshed between them makes for interest=
ing listening. QSB periodicity quite quick still, around 5-7mins. So fair co=
nditions here over the 8-10K Kms paths towards Eu.
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Hallo Walter,
der Winter und damit die guten Ausbreitungsbedingungen sind bald vorbei.
Ich denke, das es nicht schlecht wäre diese Zeit für WSPR zu nutzen.
Nachdem du dich anscheinend noch nicht für WSPR auf MW entscheiden 
konntest mache ich einen Vorschlag.
Ich betreibe für kurze Zeit unter deinem MW-Call meine Anlage zusammen 
mit WSPR.
Ich müsste sie natürlich auch in der Mailinglist publik machen.
Die Verwendung können wir für jeden Tag neu festlegen. Ich denke das 
Ganze sollte nicht länger als eine Woche sein.
Bitte denke einmal darüber nach.
Grüße
Roland

Walter und Marianne Staubach schrieb:
> Hallo MW
> 2104 G4JNT -22 IO90 23        congrats
>  
> 73 Walter DI2AG JN59NO
>  



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SM6BHZ now on 504.500  WSPR  peaking +15 out of noise...

Not too shabby for 1W erp...


090203 2224  16 -14 -0.2   0.504498  SM6BHZ JO57 30         =20
090203 2226  19 -12 -0.1   0.504498  SM6BHZ JO57 30         =20
090203 2228  19 -13 -0.2   0.504498  SM6BHZ JO57 30 =20


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Gents
I am please to report that a new NOV for 500KHz just arrived.
The new NOV runs until 28 Feb 2010 and allows +10dBW,  501 to 504 KHz with i=
mmediate effect.

Work will therefore start on the transverter here, though 10W ERP will not b=
e possible from this antenna.
Filed strengths will be too high and I may have serious voltage rating issue=
s.

Many thanks to all those quietly involved in the background in getting the N=
OV extended
mark GM4ISM
www.dc2light.co.uk

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Joe,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>nil on the screen</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>henny cpm</FONT></DIV>
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Before I investigate the intricacies of Ebay for the first time...

http://www.g4jnt.com/ForSale/600Watt_PA.htm

Andy  G4JNT
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Dear Jay, LF Group,

Unfortunately, no reception of WE2XGR here last night - the problem appears 
to be a change in local broad-band QRM, which has brought up the noise floor 
by about 20dB, with the addition of something that sounds like intermittent 
CW within a few Hz of your frequency adding a further 10dB. The noise seems 
to be on an approximately E-W bearing from my QTH, which means I cannot null 
it with a simple loop without also nulling your signal. So unfortunately, 
this will probably prevent further copy of signals from  the US until I get 
a chance to investigate further, or until it goes away of its own accord.

I decided to leave the M0BMU WSPR beacon off, since everyone seemed to be 
tuned to 508.5kHz!

Cheers, Jim Moritz
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Good signal Joe!

73

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Hello Jay, LFers,

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Henny, Lubos, Victor,

   Thank you for the captures of my brief transmission!
-- 
73 Warren K2ORS
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                WE2XEB/2
                WE2XGR/1




2009/2/14 henny van elst <cpm@planet.nl>:
> Hi Warren,Lf,
> capture XGJ
> Henny cpm
> 73s
> Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden
> verzonden:
> XGJ 14-02.jpg
>
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Hi Henny , Joe , LF ,

Just a traces last night !

73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

henny van elst a =E9crit :
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> Capture VO1NA,
> Henny CPM
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2009/2/26 Lubos OK2BVG <bvgbob@hotmail.com>:
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Are they being automatically extended, or is reapplication necessary ?

Andy  G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com



2009/2/18 Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>:
> Hi Mark, LF,
>
>
>
> Received my new NoV today also.
>
>
>
> I echo thanks to all who negotiated for the further 1 year extension.
>
>
>
> Cheers
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>
> Gary =96 G4WGT.
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>
> ________________________________
>
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Mark
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>
>
> Gents
>
> I am please to report that a new NOV for 500KHz just arrived.
>
> The new NOV runs until 28 Feb 2010 and allows +10dBW,  501 to 504 KHz with
> immediate effect.
>
>
>
> Work will therefore start on the transverter here, though 10W ERP will not
> be possible from this antenna.
>
> Filed strengths will be too high and I may have serious voltage rating
> issues.
>
>
>
> Many thanks to all those quietly involved in the background in getting the
> NOV extended
>
> mark GM4ISM
>
> www.dc2light.co.uk
>
>
>
> Grabber and WSPR decoder  24/7 subject to external influences (eg 3 days
> with no internet last week!)
>
>

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Dear all,

I just received a mail from Mori, JH1GVY, who is trying to put 136kHz 
on the map in Japan.
They expect to get 135.7-137.8kHz with 1 W EIRP soon (april 2009).
Mori is looking for a working e-mail adress of Christer, SM6PJX.

73, Rik  ON7YD


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Henny, Marco, Lubos, Victor,

   Thanks all for the reports and captures!
WD2XGJ was back at full power last night (QRO 1.3kW).

-- 
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
                WE2XEB/2
                WE2XGR/1

2009/2/6 henny van elst <cpm@planet.nl>:
> Hi Warren,
> Capture XGJ and RA3YO
> Henny CPM
> Best 73s
> Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden
> verzonden:
> XGJ -YO-06-02.jpg
>
> Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen
> het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe.
> Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe
> bijlagen worden afgehandeld.


